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A few days ago the BBC reported on an extraordinary French identity theft scam. For two years starting in late 2015, an individual or individuals impersonating France’s defence minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, scammed an estimated €80m from wealthy French patriots.

The victims of this fraud were tricked into believing that they were being contacted by France’s Defence Minister who was requesting money to help pay ransom for journalists held hostage by Islamists in the Middle East. Since France officially does not pay ransom to terrorists, the fake minster assured the victims that payments could not be traced and asked for the funds to be wired to a bank in China.

The BBC deemed the operation “one of the most outlandish and successful rackets of recent times.”

You may not be surprised that the accused evil genius behind this con is a French-Israeli character of Tunisian Jewish background named Gilbert Chikli. Chikli grew up in the working-class Belleville neighbourhood of northeast Paris.

In 2015, Chikli was found guilty of scamming money from French corporations by pretending to be their chief executive. By the time the verdict was reached, Chikli was safely ensconced in the Jewish State, which refuses to extradite its nationals.

Chikli’s luck ran out in August 2017 when he made the mistake of travelling to Ukraine where he was arrested at the request of the French police. Chikli told police he was on a pilgrimage to the tomb of a well-known rabbi. But a search into his phone’s communication revealed that he went to Ukraine to buy a silicone mask

The alleged crime saga didn’t end there. Recently reports began to arrive at French embassies around the world that once again a fake Le Drian, now French foreign minster, was trying to squeeze money out of influential ‘friends of France’. In February, three French-Israeli citizens were arrested near Tel Aviv in connection with this new swindle.

Chikli’s racket is astonishing, creative; criminologists may decide that it borders on genius. Although Chikli didn’t invent the art of the swindle, he ratcheted it up to a higher level.

What I find remarkable about Chikli’s operation is not the stunning amounts of money, the sophistication, or even the chutzpah involved: it is the fact that Chikli ’s scam was dependent upon the humane compassion of others. He banked on the fact that humans feel and care for each other. We are dealing with a disgraceful blow against the most precious aspect of humanity, that which sustains kindness and brotherhood.

It is not surprising that some very wealthy and influential people fell for Chikli’s racket and for the obvious reason: decent humans would find it hard or even impossible to imagine the extent of Chikli and his friends’ deception.

And Chikli is not alone in his practices. In recent years we have seen a number of instances of gross misbehavior and abuse and on a spectacular scale. And as is the case of Chikli we find Jews and Israelis at the centre of these embarrassing sagas.

In 2010 an Israeli court ruled that seven Israelis suspected of scamming tens of millions of dollars from U.S. pensioners in a so-called ‘Nigerian scam’ could be extradited to the United States to face trial there. Israel has bought itself a reputation as the location of some of the most horrendous crimes such as organ trafficking (look here and here), and is notorious as a hub of human trafficking, blood diamond, crypto currency criminals, the binary options scam, and the scope of gross unethical behavior extends well beyond the borders of the Jewish State.

In 2012 Britain was shocked to discover that one of its most popular TV stars was a serial pedophile who had committed sex crimes against children throughout his 50 year career. Jimmy Savile raped children in the BBC’s dressing rooms, in orphan homes and in institutions that cared for the disabled. No one bothered to defend Jimmy Saville. Yet when Lord Janner faced similar allegations, the British establishment was somehow hesitant and confused. Despite the fact that Lord Janner was suspected of sexually abusing more than 30 children from the mid-1950s until the late 1980s the British judicial system found itself struggling.

Janner, a former Leicester MP (Labour) was the chairman of the Board of Jewish Deputies (BOD), a body that claims to represent British Jewry and the founder of the Holocaust Educational Trust (HET). To date, neither the BOD nor the HET has expressed any regret for its past association with Janner who died at age 87 before a trial could take place.

Lord Janner’s family is taking good care to restore their father’s reputation. Soon after the Lord passed away we learned from the British press that Janner’s three grown-up children asked “to take part in the investigation into his alleged crimes.”

Outside the investigation’s London headquarters, Lord Janner’s son, Daniel Janner QC, attacked the “shambolic and discredited inquiry” (into his father alleged crimes).

He claimed there had been a “total failure” to acknowledge “our late father’s good character and legal status as innocent”

In February 2018 we learned that Lord Janner’s son vowed to bring a private prosecution against the man who initiated the Westminster child abuse claim s, who has himself been charged with paedophile offences.

I am not in a position to verify whether Lord Janner was guilty of the crimes he was accused of but I can confirm that the enquiry into his suspected sex abuse has collapsed. In all, 33 men and women accused Lord Janner of abusing them. Their plight has been forgotten. One of the most embarrassing chapters in Britain’s past remains untouched.

Lord Janner is hardly alone as a suspect in an abusive sex scandal. For the last two years we have been learning about another Zionist enthusiast who left more than 80 victims traumatized, abused and humiliated.

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In October 2017, The New York Times and The New Yorker reported that tens of women came forward and accused Harvey Weinstein, formerly head of Miramax Films and The Weinstein Company (TWC), of rape, sexual assault and sexual abuse over a period of at least three decades. More than 80 women in the film industry have since accused Weinstein of such acts. Weinstein denied “any non-consensual sex”.

Jeffrey Epstein’s story is similarly abusive. The convicted sex offender prostituted dozens of underage girls and should have spent the rest of his life in jail. Again this is no ‘one-off’ abuse of an underage child, he was a serial sex predator.

According to Joseph Recarey, the lead Palm Beach detective on the case, Epstein was essentially operating a “sexual pyramid scheme.”

The Vox writes that the girls and women who reported abuse by Epstein, meanwhile, were markedly powerless. Most of them “came from disadvantaged families, single-parent homes or foster care,… Many of the girls were one step away from homelessness.”

In November 2017 the genius comedian Larry David was criticized in the Jewish press for admitting on Saturday Night Live that many of those accused of sexual harassment in Hollywood are Jewish.

Jews often brag about their genius gene pool and about the fact that so many Nobel Prize winners are Jewish (20%). Jews frequently boast about their power in politics, media and finance. “Jews must never be afraid to use their well-earned power” was the title of a recent article by Alan Dershowitz, who was a member of Epstein’s legal team and was later accused by one of the victims’ lawyers of himself participating in the sex trafficking ring.

This raises the obvious question of whether the same ‘gene-pool’ that created so many spectacular Jewish minds is also responsible for the list of gross misconduct as illustrated above. I am not a biologist nor an evolutionary scientist, but I admit I am not a great believer in the notion of a ‘Jewish gene.’

I contend that Chikli, Janner, Weinstein and Epstein have something else in common. Their actions display a dismissal of others that verges on complete contempt for humanity. This is the crux of choseness. To be chosen is to see oneself as an exceptional creation. It entails blindness to otherness. It is a form of impunity. To be chosen often involves a near or total lack of empathy. Such lack is often defined in terms of acute narcissism and psychopathy. Chikli is clearly aware of the human inclination for empathy, it is that impulse that he allegedly exploited to his own benefit, he just lacks that empathic quality himself.

Not every Jew identifies him or herself as chosen. None of the Jews in my social circuit displays any of the horrid symptoms described above. As a reader of early Zionist texts, I know well that Zionism was born to emancipate Diaspora Jews from their exceptionalist cultural traits and to make them ‘ I am also aware that some rabbinical Judaic interpretations of choseness are somehow different from the contemporary Zionist secular Jewish political interpretation of Jewish exceptionalism. Nor is choseness limited to Zionists or Israelis. Choseness has become the pillar of Jewish self identification. Choseness is what binds Jews together. This includes anti Zionist Jews boasting about the precious contribution of the so-called ‘Jews in the movement’ and the Israelis and Zionists who celebrate their choseness at the expense of the indigenous people of Palestine.

Like an early Zionist, I would have liked to see Jews liberate themselves from the choseness prison but I accept that such a shift can not occur in the form of a collective or political movement. The escape from choseness to the ordinary must be an individual struggle, a surrender to self-contempt that eventually matures into a genuine search for peace and harmony with the universe, with the soil and with one’s neighbours.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. What if a sense of chosenness and messianic mission has been an emotional and psychological driver behind many of humanity’s greatest achievements, both for individuals and collectives?

    What if the universe doesn’t really care if a sense of chosenness is nice or not nice, but that a sense of chosenness provides a competitive advantage for those experiencing it?

    What if there is in fact a genetic basis for a sense of chosenness among human beings?

    What is the reality of the syndrome? It’s worth looking into with an open mind and scientific temperament.

  2. ariadna says:

    The paragraph starting with:
    “Jews often brag about their genius gene pool…”
    is preceded by:
    “In November 2017 the genius [sic] comedian Larry David….”

    I find that funny. But that’s just me…

  3. This dude should deign to proof-read his screeds a little bit — or pay some dumb goy to proof-read for him.

    “As a reader of early Zionist texts, I know well that Zionism was born to emancipate Diaspora Jews from their exceptionalist cultural traits and to make them ‘ ”

    It was supposed to finish with “a nation like all others” or some disingenuous crap like that, I know. But he got ahead of himself, moving on to his next score.

  4. Ma Laoshi says:

    Mr. Atzmon with his usual fetish for the early Zionists, i.e., the people of—lest we forget it–“After we chase the Arabs out, the land will be wide open for us.” If those sainted early Zionists wanted to make jews “People like all other people”–then why do you (and only you) need a separate country for your own race? Why not admit that the whole project of creating an angry ethnostate on somebody else’s land was criminal and mendacious from the get-go?

    • Agree: Druid, Alfred
    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @Zimriel
  5. We are dealing with a disgraceful blow against the most precious aspect of humanity, that which sustains kindness and brotherhood.

    That sentence is wrong for one simple reason: compassion could not possibly outrank survival instinct as a “precious aspect of humanity”. In order to have compassion, one must first exist. And without survival instinct, that is simply not possible.

    It would be acceptable to say that compassion is the second most precious aspect of humanity. I am not necessarily saying it is. All I am saying is that it would be an arguable position.

    But there is no room at the top in this matter.

    Whether all this has any bearing on your article’s central thesis is something which I am not in a capacity or position to say.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
    , @renfro
  6. Anon[882] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean McBride

    Every human and human group who speak of “animals” and mean just all other species when using that word hold a sense of extreme choseness. It’s a human tendency it seems…

    See the reactions to Wilson’s sociobiology. Even the word at to be at least changed to “evolutionary psychology”.
    I have no sense of choseness and can’t even see why the second wording would make people more relaxed than the first 🤔

  7. anon[329] • Disclaimer says:

    And then there are those whom Abraham Lincoln called The Almost-Chosen People.

    The Americas, as he put it, were ‘the Almost Chosen People’ and the war was part of God’s scheme, a great testing of the nation by an ordeal of blood, showing the way to charity and thus to rebirth.

    Johnson, Paul. “The Almost-Chosen People.” The Wilson Quarterly (1976-), vol. 9, no. 5, 1985, pp. 78–89. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/40256963.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Parfois1
  8. You are such a scum bag Gilad, pointing out the Jewish scoundrels, when a lot of these stories are questionable. The Swedish article about organ harvesting was proven false, just like many of your accusations.. Don’t forget your libel case that you lost in a laugher, your accusations so feeble. A lot of the organ harvesting stories are false, but I am sure you don’t care as long as you slander a Jew for your cult following, the deed is done.
    Why don’t you pick up some other tribal stories, that are irrefutable like the abuse go the migrant construction workers in the Arab Middle East Star architects from around the world, having trouble building overthrew due to the death toll of construction. Those cornea harvesting stories pale in comparison to the 1200 workers that died building the World Cup building by Zaha Hadid in Quatar. The Guggenheim canceled its constructions due the labor conditions. These migrants from Bangladesh and India, their passports taken away, live in tin cans while they work and live in unsafe conditions. They are so poor they are forced to work there to send money home to their families for survival. There are more migrant workers in many of those countries, with no rights then their are Arab princes rich from oil wealth where the entire extended family make up the citizens with the mega bucks like Al Thani family. Look at that family, makes even the lowest scoundrel Jews look good. Not even going to get into the Arab sex traffic ring with young girls.
    These are real human rights stories that are burning people up. Poor you so so stuck on the Jews, you cannot see the forest for your fan base of Holy deniers and Jihadist, and just plain Jew haters, that need to focus on questionable organ harvesting that is not Israeli policy, or Jeffery Epstien as long as Dershowitz is involved. I notice you always have to go after your enemies, like poor Max Blumenthal.
    You love to especially attack the anti zionist that condemn you which are many.

    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/comment/2017/12/6/gulf-migrant-workers-are-being-abused-in-complete-silence
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33019838
    https://www.hrw.org/report/2004/07/13/bad-dreams/exploitation-and-abuse-migrant-workers-saudi-arabia
    https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/architecture/2014/08/zaha-hadid-worker-conditions-lawsuit
    https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/uae-migrant-workers-experience-forced-labour-conditions-at-the-louvre-abu-dhabi
    https://hyperallergic.com/497876/gulf-labor-coalition-calls-on-artists-to-boycott-guggenheim-abu-dhabi/

  9. anon[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Merely repeating what Israel has admitted is anti-Semitic ‘slander” to Fran.

    “Israel has admitted pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians…”

    Doctor admits Israeli pathologists harvested organs without consent
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs

    • Agree: Al Liguori, Nehlen
    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @Pheasant
  10. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran you are a lying Jewish scoundrel. You admitted to be from CHABAD while pretending you never heard any of the supremacist tenets that CHABAD’s rabbis teach.

    CHABAD teaches you to be one of CHABAD’s deceitful shluchim [agents] “Modern on the Outside and CHABAD on the Inside”:

    “The Rebbe said to me, “I want you to know that in every battle there are certain people who have to dress up like the enemy, and they have to go into the enemy’s territory, and their own co-religionists will think that they are turncoats; that they’ve become rebels, but without those people the battle can’t be won, and you [Rabbi Shlomo Riskin] will win the war … you must produce shluchim [agents] for the entire world who are modern on the outside and Chabad on the inside.’”
    Modern on the Outside and Chabad on the Inside by Rabbi Shlomo Riskin
    https://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/1130019/jewish/Modern-on-the-Outside-and-Chabad-on-the-Inside.htm

    CHABAD teaches you malevolent Jewish supremacism:

    מה שאין כן נפשות אומות העולם הן משאר קליפות טמאות שאין בהן טוב כלל
    The souls of the nations of the world, however, emanate from the other, unclean kelipot which contain no good whatever, …
    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/7880/jewish/Chapter-1.htm

    CHABAD Rabbi Schneerson taught:

    “The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: ‘Let us differentiate.’ Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather, we have a case of ‘let us differentiate’ between totally different species.”

    “This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of [members] of all nations of the world … The difference in the inner quality between Jews and non-Jews is so great that the bodies should be considered as completely different species.”

    “An even greater difference exists in regard to the soul. Two contrary types of soul exist, a non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness.”

    “As has been explained, an embryo is called a human being, because it has both body and soul. Thus, the difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish embryo can be understood.”

    “…the general difference between Jews and non-Jews: A Jew was not created as a means for some [other] purpose; he himself is the purpose, since the substance of all [divine] emanations was created only to serve the Jews.”

    “The important things are the Jews, because they do not exist for any [other] aim; they themselves are [the divine] aim.”

    “The entire creation [of a non-Jew] exists only for the sake of the Jews.”

    Another CHABAD Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburgh: “If a Jew needs a liver, can you take the liver of an innocent non-Jew passing by to save him? The Torah would probably allow that. Jewish life has an infinite value.”
    Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburgh, quoted in Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel by Prof. Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky, London: Pluto Press, 2004, p. 62

    “The best of the gentiles: kill him; the best of snakes: smash its skull; the best of women: is filled with witchcraft.” Kiddushin 66c The uncensored version of this text appears in Tractate Soferim (New York, M. Higer, 1937), 15:7, p. 282.

    “The seed of the goyim is like an animal.” Sanhedrin 74b

    “All Gentile children are animals.” Yebamoth 98a

    “Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring”
    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4006385,00.html

    “The Jew by his source and in his very essence is entirely good. The goy, by his source and his very essence, is completely evil. This is not simply a matter of religious distinction, but rather of two completely different species.”
    Rabbi Saadya Grama, Romemut Yisrael Ufarashat Hagalut (“Jewish Superiority and the Question of Exile”) 2003.

    “Souls of non-Jews come entirely from the female part of the Satanic sphere. For this reason souls of non-Jews are called evil.” [Yesaiah Tishbi, Torat ha-Rave-ha-Kelippahnbe-Kabbalat ha-Ari (The Theory of Evil and the Satanic Sphere in Kabbalah) 1942, reprinted 1982]

    Your CHABAD teaches that when a Jew rapes a gentile woman, it is a capital offense, but the woman or child victim (if she is above the age of 3), is the one to be executed:

    9 When a gentile engages in relations with a Jewish woman, if she is married, he should be executed. If she is single, he is not executed.
    10 If, by contrast, a Jewish male enters into relations with a gentile woman, when he does so intentionally, she should be executed. She is executed because she caused a Jew to be involved in an unseemly transgression, as [is the law with regard to] an animal. [This applies regardless of] whether the gentile women was a minor of three years of age,* or an adult, whether she was single or married. And it applies even if [the Jew] was a minor of nine years old, [she is executed].

    * If, however, she is younger than three, the relations are not considered significant.

    Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Issurei Biah – Chapter Twelve, §9 & 10
    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/960660/jewish/Issurei-Biah-Chapter-Twelve.htm

    Your comment 185 http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/on-biblical-celebrities-and-jewish-symbolism/

    “Jesus is a false prophet, the bastard son of a Roman soldier and Mary, no virgin birth.
    Too bad.”

  11. @Fran Taubman

    ‘You are such a scum bag Gilad, pointing out the Jewish scoundrels, when a lot of these stories are questionable. The Swedish article about organ harvesting was proven false, just like many of your accusations.. Don’t forget your libel case that you lost in a laugher, your accusations so feeble…’

    I’m beginning to think you must be the invention of some exceptionally creative anti-semites.

    Is there any truth to that, Fran?

    In any case, you keep pitching. I can’t see anything but good coming of it. Don’t forget to defend Israel a few times.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  12. Al Liguori says: • Website

    Swindlers List
    http://judaism.is/swindlers-list.html

    “All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples.” Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348

  13. Al Liguori says: • Website

    …organ harvesting was proven false…

    Really? http://judaism.is/organ-harvesting.html

    FBI Arrested Rabbi Levy-Izhak Rosenbaum, Kidney Trafficker and Major Figure in a Global Human Organ Ring http://www.eutimes.net/2009/07/fbi-arrested-rabbi-levy-izhak-rosenbaum-kidney-trafficker-and-major-figure-in-a-global-human-organ-ring/

    The mayors of Hoboken and Secaucus, Jersey City Deputy Mayor, two state Assemblymen, and five rabbis were arrested in a U.S. connection with the organ-trafficking crime syndicate, but the news was quickly “disappeared” by Bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aS75MsiDa4WU). Details are preserved here:
    Money-Laundering, Organ Selling, Influence-Peddling–the Israeli Connection
    https://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/money-laundering-organ-selling-influence-peddling-the-israeli-connection/

    Freelance journalist Donald Bostrom tells Press TV that an international war crimes investigation awaits Israel over its soldiers’ harvest of organs from dead Palestinians.
    http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/104165.html

    Jewish human organ harvesting
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_human_organ_harvesting

    From Holocaust to Organ Trafficking, Rehmat’s World
    http://rehmat1.com/2013/06/13/from-holocaust-to-organ-trafficking/

    related FBI arrests:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY5rczWnQyAJews Arrested For Harvesting Illegal Organs

    http://eyeswideopen5.blogspot.com/2013/01/jewsmayors-arrested-for-harvesting.html

    Healthcare group cuts a deal with court over illegal organ harvesting — and medical personnel seem set to follow.
    http://mg.co.za/article/2010-11-12-netcare-coughs-up

    All in accord with CHABAD.

    “If a Jew needs a liver, can you take the liver of an innocent non-Jew passing by to save him? The Torah would probably allow that. Jewish life has an infinite value.”

    CHABAD Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburgh, quoted in Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel by Prof. Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky, London: Pluto Press, 2004, p. 62

  14. @Fran Taubman

    Your narrative seems to prove my theory that Islam is Reform Judaism. While the Swedish story may be “false”, this one isn’t: https://www.jta.org/2011/10/30/united-states/israeli-man-convicted-of-organ-trafficking-in-n-j

    Arabs have always seen slavery as natural, and historically, as Tony Martin showed in his work, Jews were the predominant force behind the African slave trade to America, and disproportionately large owners of slaves.
    The 1200 killed, even if verifiable, would be nothing out of the norm for any Arab/Muslim country using imported labor. Passport seizure is normal, and so are high rates of death among domestic servants. How many young “Eastern European” women have been lured to Israel for the promise of work, only to have their passports seized and be forced into prostitution? How many have been killed? IMO the differences between Qatar and Israel are only questions of degree.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Fran Taubman
    , @anonymous
  15. AaronB says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Actually, this is the first time I heard Gilad say something positive about Israel 🙂

    About how early Zionism was healthy and good. This is a very good development. Eventually we will get Gilad back into the fold 🙂

    Especially as he sees his environment in Britain collapse around him, and realizes where European Enlightenment ideas eventually lead.

    Next, we will get Israel Shamir back into the fold 🙂

    On the Guyenot thread, for the first time ever he objected to the dehumanizing practice of calling Jews parasites, and correctly explained that Jewish money making is ancillary to how they see their role as Brahmins spreading God’s word.

    I had never seen Shamir bothered before by Jew hatred. He’s starting to see the light.

    Finally, I am seeing more and more on this site “righteous gentiles” who are disgusted by the rank hatred of Jews this site has become a home for – even a few months ago, this wasn’t the case.

    So the tide is turning, Fran. Fear not.

    Put your faith in the living God – evil will not have its way forever, and good will rise again.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Gilad Atzmon
    , @PPB
  16. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    Remember the beautiful words of the Prophet Isaiah – Jews are meant to be scapegoats, Jews are meant to be distractions for the wickedness of other nations – and through our suffering, they are healed.

    We heal them by taking on ourselves the burden of their wickedness.

    The European nations pillaged half the world, but they blame the Jews. They invented the means of destroying beautiful traditional cultures through science, but they blame the Jews.

    By suffering for their wickedness, Jews heal them – only in the Messianic age will they understand their mistake, and the great service that has been done them.

    Not before. Until then, we should not be dismayed – this is what it means to be a Servant of the Lord, the term Isaiah uses for the Jewish nation.

    He was despised and rejected of men, a man of pains and accustomed to sickness. As one from whom we would hide our faces, he was despised, and we had no regard for him.

    Indeed, he bore our illnesses and carried our pains – but we regarded him as diseased, stricken by God and afflicted.

    He was wounded as a result of our transgressions, and crushed as a result of our iniquities. The chastisement upon him was for our benefit; and through his wounds we were healed

    Take heed.

  17. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    The concept of the Chosen People, Fran, always meant that we were servants – we were chosen to be servants, Servants of the Lord.

    In other words, we were the instrument of God’s salvation of the nations of the world – in a sense, being a Servant of the Lord means being a servant of the nations.

    We should not betray this trust, because so many of them do not see yet.

    In the Messianic age, we will be vindicated, and rejoice – and all the nations of the Earth will be astonished, and rejoice with us, and lay down the sword.

    But it is not time yet.

    • Replies: @Devon
  18. Anon[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curmudgeon

    How can anyone forget about the ex-Mossad agent running a child prostitution ring in Columbia for many years. Was about to be imprisoned there, however used his mossad connections to run back to Israel

    • Replies: @niteranger
  19. @Colin Wright

    Not sure what you mean, I speak about what strikes me as fair and what strikes me as unfair. Gilads bullshit is just that bullshit. Of all the people in the ME, the Jewish scoundrels and there are many pale in comparison to the harm done by Islamic hierarchal families, like the House of Saud, the Al Thani family, the Hashmites etc. All of those Arab Muslim royals, that live like kings. Didn’t MBS just chop someone up. Is that due to chosen- ness
    Gilad is pointing the finger at scoundrels and saying it is caused by the Jewish chosen thing, whatever that means.
    Adnan Khashoggi, what a scoundrel supreme, there are many Arab muslim scoundrels involved with sex trafficking, etc, total dirt bags. What is their excuse, they missed being chosen?
    Do you not see how superficial bullshit this article is from a supposedly philosophical religious critic of Judaism?
    No I am not a creative anti semite Colin. You have been following my comments for a while. I think you know that and are being sarcastic. Look Colin there are many articles on UR with points to be made, if you cannot see the bullshit in Gilads superficial attempt to pander to Jew hatred, I stymied.
    His points are childish, retribution for his thin skin.
    You cannot pick and choose scoundrels due to religions.

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @foolisholdman
  20. @Curmudgeon

    It was a lie and has been refuted many times that Jews were not central involved in the African slave trade either as traders or owners.
    More slander.

    How many young “Eastern European” women have been lured to Israel for the promise of work, only to have their passports seized and be forced into prostitution? How many have been killed? IMO the differences between Qatar and Israel are only questions of degree.

    Not to any degree like Arab muslims who few women as servants, with many wives. These guys are the original hedonist and abusers of women and those in the lower ranks. Israel just does not have that type of thing going on, it is not institutional as in Arab muslim cultures.

    In accordance with the customs of his people, Abdul Aziz headed a polygamous household comprising several wives and concubines. According to some sources, he had twenty-two consorts. Many of his marriages were contracted in order to cement alliances with other clans, during the period when the Saudi state was founded and stabilized. Abdul Aziz was the father of almost a hundred children, including forty-five sons.

  21. @Fran Taubman

    Yes it has happened but it is not institutional or sanctioned or policy by Israel, and those found to be doing it are punished. Very different from saying that it is “something that Jews do because it is their natural way, their revealed immoral behavior. Bullshit

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  22. Anon[253] • Disclaimer says:

    First off most Jews are dumb and almost all are criminal. Must be in the Gene’s. It’s a dead religion that is now a cult for and by criminal scum. They are all back stabbing liars. Maybe the Persians can save humanity. If not them then the Orthdox Christian’s.

    Is there an Asian dish that can be made from ju?

  23. Anonymous [AKA "Werner"] says:
    @Fran Taubman

    (((Taubman)))

  24. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Curmudgeon: How many young “Eastern European” women have been lured to Israel for the promise of work, only to have their passports seized and be forced into prostitution? How many have been killed? IMO the differences between Qatar and Israel are only questions of degree.

    Another Jewish inversion of reality (and word salad grammar) from CHABAD Fran

    Not to any degree like Arab muslims who few women as servants [sic]

    Even the jUSA State Department refutes Fran:

    Sex slavery and Israel’s failure to fight the growing trade
    by Emile Tayyip, Global Research, November 29, 2007
    “Last year, the United Nations named Israel as one of the main destinations in the world for trafficked women, according to the BBC.
    Israel has also been named as an offender in the annual U.S. State Department‘s Trafficking in Persons (Tip) report, which condemned the Jewish state for not fully complying with the “minimum standards” to eliminate sex trafficking…”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7487

    Israel among worst human traffickers
    Named in UN’s list of ‘top 10’ destinations for forced labor, sexual slavery.

    by Ruth Eglash, The Jerusalem Post, 04/25/20065
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=19974

    Factbook on Global Sexual Exploitation—Israel
    citing the Coalition Against Trafficking in Women
    http://palestinefreevoice.blogspot.com/2008/05/factbook-on-global-sexual-exploitation.html

    Israel’s Sex Trade Escalating
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/23/world/main682673.shtml

    “Up to 10,000 trafficked women in Israel and more than 280 brothels in Tel Aviv alone”
    by Julie Lesser, Jewish Tribune, archived at:
    http://venusproject.org/equality/sex-slavery-the-growing-trade-in-israel.html

    then, as now, Jews and child sex slavery

    1835: Jews buying, training & selling children as sex slaves
    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/10/jews-buying-training-selling-children.html

    1811: More Jews buying & selling child sex slaves
    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/10/more-jews-buying-selling-child-sex.html

    1917-1920: Child prostitution in Judeo-Bolshevik Russia
    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/03/child-prostitution-in-jewish-bolshevik.html

    early 20th century: Jews & child prostitution in early 20th century:
    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/11/germany-1913-jews-selling-children-as.html

    Jews and the sexual decadence of Weimar Germany:
    https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/the-sexual-decadence-of-weimar-germany/

  25. @Fran Taubman

    …not institutional or sanctioned or policy by Israel…

    Israel is a haven for pedophiles and sex slavers

    Diaspora pedophiles increasingly use Israel as ‘a haven,’ activists charge
    As sex offenders flee their home countries for the Jewish state, grassroots efforts at raising awareness of their presence has led to a slander lawsuit
    by Melanie Lidman, November 28, 2016 https://www.timesofisrael.com/diaspora-pedophiles-increasingly-use-israel-as-a-haven-activists-charge/

    Israeli Health Czar Methodically Aided ultra-Orthodox Sex Offenders, Investigation Reveals
    Rabbinic law of Orthodox Judaism permits molestation of kids.
    This is hotly denied as an “anti-Semitic trope.” Yet according to Haaretz newspaper the “ultra-Orthodox” (Hasidic Talmud follower) Deputy Health Minister of Israel has been assisting pedophiles.
    https://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-israeli-health-czar-methodically-aided-ultra-orthodox-sex-offenders-report-says-1.7253060

  26. Svevlad says:

    Well, first take a look at what kind of Jew they are… Not Sephards, not Mizrahis, 100% Ashkenazi.

    Who are the Ashkenazi descended from? Some 3 people who moved to Eastern Europe SOLELY to partake in the short-lived slave trade that took place in the area. Some degree of misanthropy is required for that shit, and they most certainly kept it due to endogamy. Though they are a disappearing people, the more they move to Israel the more of them will mix with the normals, eliminating all the bullshit and solving the problem forever

  27. @Fran Taubman

    Jews were not central involved in the African slave trade either as traders or owners.

    Oh, really? http://judaism.is/who-is-human.html#blacks

    In fact, “Yankee” “Portuguese” Jewish slave ship owners plied the Atlantic slave trade to Brazil even into the 1890’s.

    The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade by Dr. Tony Martin

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @geokat62
  28. anon[646] • Disclaimer says:

    I appreciate all the interesting arguments presented here, whether right, wrong, relevant or otherwise. I’d like to make the simple point that high intelligence conferred by ‘Ashkenazi’- related genes is real, but does not, and cannot, confer culture or religion.
    One’s mistaken or incomplete concept of the ‘Jews’ one is talking about can lead to an endless chain of unhelpful and fruitless reasoning..

  29. Three posts in a row by AaronB and then three in a row from Fran.

    Where’s the toilet plunger?

  30. Druid says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You’re right, they’re thugs, and most Moslems dislike them, but your ilk are international and masterful thugs!

  31. Druid says:
    @Fran Taubman

    What about…..
    Jews were involved heavily in the slave trade in Europe in the Middle Ages, even kidnapping people for their lucre. When the tartars conquered and kidnapped, Jews were the slavers. Jews heavily involved in American and south and Central American slave trade via Spain and Portugal. Obfuscate all you want, but the truth lives

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  32. @AaronB

    ‘…By suffering for their wickedness, Jews heal them – only in the Messianic age will they understand their mistake, and the great service that has been done them…

    So we’ve got Jews mercilessly despoiling and oppressing the peasantry of Poland and the Ukraine as Arendars in the fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth, and eighteenth centuries. Then we’ve got Jews playing a wildly disproportionate role in the unequaled murder and misery of Communism — leaving behind hollowed out spiritual wastelands across Europe and Asia. Finally, today we have Israel wallowing in the foulest forms of international crime, fleecing half the planet, endlessly grinding her boot into the face of millions, and trying to bring on a catastrophic and mutually disastrous war between the United States and Iran.

    Which of these do you see as the greatest service you have rendered? Which is most expressive of your unique spiritual mission? Which has brought us all the most healing?

    I mean, you brought up the notion that we really owe you. So which of the above fills your heart with the most pride, with that sense of accomplishment and a job well done?

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Jon Baptist
  33. @Fran Taubman

    You’re such scoundrels that you would cruelly exploit your own people if Gentiles weren’t such a soft target:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire

    Judging by the public mood and the recent activity in the US with “combating antisemitism,” we will surely see more Jews throwing each other under the bus to escape the rising anger. Jewish scoundrels have been paraded in front of the Gentile masses quite a bit lately, like the sex cult and the college admissions racket that they were running. It’s almost as if the Jewish community is throwing us a few of the worst to keep a justice-starved Gentile population at bay. If so, it isn’t a bad idea, and I hope it continues with as much publicity as possible.

  34. @Al Liguori

    Al great detail!

    “Those who call themselves Jews but are not.” Chabad followers are Sabbateans.

    This song dedicated to “The Wandering Who.”

  35. @Sean McBride

    I agree this is a possibility. such a view would support the idea that choseness is responsible for Jewish brilliance as well as traits that are far from being brilliant….

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  36. @Blue Corgi

    Tx for that …. It was probably dropped while I copied it into the browser …

  37. @Blue Corgi

    Yep i fixed it on my site for some reason the Zionist mantra “people like all other people” was dropped ….

  38. @Ma Laoshi

    Let me make it simple for you,,, I believe that the early Zionist diagnosis was spot on, however the remedy was pathetic and didn’t work out as we all know,,, as I mention in the aricle above, THERE IS NO collective method to fix choseness…

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
  39. @Fran Taubman

    Please cut your crap… first, I didn’t lose a libel case. The case was settled as I didn’t see a point defending an interpretation made by a judge, 2, Israeli organ trafficking: i am afraid that we aren’t talking about one or two cases but dealing with an epidemic https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/organ-trafficking/ 3. The cases discussed in this article do not explore “Jewish scoundrels,” but spectacular immoral misconduct. And I am afraid that Larry David admission on STL explores the issue profoundly. You are welcome to point at anything that resembles the French ID theft, or Jeffrey Epstein’s prostitution ring. I can’t think of any..

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  40. @AaronB

    Don’t hold your breath about me getting into the fold…However, throughout my entire intellectual career I have been more positive about Israel than about the duplicitous Jewish left that has done little but controlling the dissent to Israeli crimes. You can watch the documentary about my work and see how wrong you are: https://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2019/6/18/an-award-wining-documentary-removed-by-youtube. Finally, nothing collapsed around me in Britain, my gigs are sold out and despite the CAA/BOD desperate and relentless attempts to interfere with my musical career (harassing venues and festivals) I am still one of Britain most popular jazz artists …

    • Replies: @AaronB
  41. David says:

    These two statements seem to contradict one another: “the Jewish State, which refuses to extradite its nationals;” “In 2010 an Israeli court ruled that seven Israelis suspected of scamming tens of millions of dollars from U.S. pensioners in a so-called ‘Nigerian scam’ could be extradited to the United States to face trial there.”

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  42. @Al Liguori

    To lie for the cause is a kosher procedure. it is called Hasbara..

  43. A very good & penetrating article. I would only add that many other groups had passed through “chosen” phase, but they eventually dumped it or reduced it to a reasonable level.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  44. @Sean McBride

    This is not the same. A man of genius can see & know he has a vocation, calling for something (Mozart for music, Gauss for math,…). A group may feel to be better when they see they actually are, at least by their standards (Greeks to barbarians, Chinese to their barbarians, Mongols in warfare,…).

    With historical Jews it was not the case. They had begun their chosen stuff sometimes between 1000 and 500 BC & persisted in it, although they had little to show to the world until 19th C. You convince yourself you’re better than the others, and yet you’re plainly inferior re warfare & culture & most other things. You don’t have much to show re arts & sciences & statesmanship & power you yourself had created (philosophy, literature, music, mathematics, medicine, visual arts, astronomy, military strategy, inventions, ordered habitat..).

    And that goes even further in Jewish spiritual tradition, where virtually all- with some possible exceptions- Jewish Kabbalists & rabbis claimed that only Jews had spiritual “souls” (or something divine in their psychological structure), while all other gentiles do not.

    It is fascinating- at least to me. So, they say Jews are structurally different from the others re spiritual anthropology. As far as I know, most great traditions which speak of divine element in human beings (shamanism, currents in Greek culture, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Islam, Chinese religions, Buddhism, Hinduism, native American spiritual cultures ..even Mormonism & Scientology) – do not restrict this to any ethnic or racial or cultural group. It is universally human, according to them.

    Jewish spiritual tradition is the only exception, as far as I know.

    • Agree: Sean McBride
  45. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    > By suffering for their wickedness, Jews heal them

    That well illustrates the narcissistic masochism of the messiah complex.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  46. insomnia says:
    @Fran Taubman

    its a well known jewish trait among zionists to deflect fron the truth, how many times have we heard, why dont you target Burma or why donlt you target Christian Zionists instead of Aipac, its so prevalent that this response falls into the same category. It is well known that jews have harvested organs from Haiti, fro Eastern Europe, from Palestinians they have killed..it is so well known that it enbarrasses this person into extreme deflection, well worth an article Gilad Atzmon..

    • Replies: @Parsnipitous
  47. alexander says:
    @Al Liguori

    Wow!

    Can this really be true ?

    How is it possible that almost the entire population of the United States knows nothing about it ?

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    , @Craig Nelsen
  48. Ma Laoshi says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    >I believe that the early Zionist diagnosis was spot on, however the remedy was pathetic
    Well, stuff happens. Like when somebody produces a convincing analysis of the corrupting, self-perpetuating power of concentrated capital–then proposes the remedy of concentrating all power in the Communist Party instead. And in both cases, I am very open to the hypothesis that it all was malicious from the beginning–just the best-sounding excuse they could come up with to seize the power they’d coveted all along. Einstein was on to something when he said “To found a state on race is not the way to transcend the recent horrors, but to perpetuate them”; and he had it figured out right from the start.

    >THERE IS NO collective method to fix choseness…
    Well as the next step in your own individual redemption, please next time leave out the condescending “Let me make it simple for you”. In fact I also have 50% superior jewish brains–though I’m not quite sure which half LOL. 🙂

    • Replies: @Max Havelaar
  49. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I am not sure why you find that fascinating – the Jews never took the concept of chosennes to mean biological superiority, so centuries of not achieving anything spectacular could not have had any impact on their self conception.

    They saw their mission as being to bring all the nations of the world closer to God – so not being great warriors or artists really was rather beside the point.

    Unfortunately, many people have a habit of seeing this only through a modern Darwinian lens – when of course then it doesn’t make sense, and becomes sinister.

    To be fair, many people can’t see anything outside a Darwinian lens, as that’s the modern religion. And they end up misunderstanding lots of things.

    At the very least, one should be aware of what the Jews themselves thought about themselves.

    As for the point about souls, what was the point of being a light unto the nations if gentiles have no souls?

    That makes a mockery of the Jewish understanding of their mission – which is to bring the nations closer to God.

    Why would Isaiah say that at the end times, all the nations will recognize God and live in peace if they have no souls?

    You have gone astray somewhere in your thinking here.

  50. AaronB says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    I did not mean your personal life will collapse, I meant as Britain increasingly become a dysfunctional and unpleasant as result of following Enlightenment ideas, and as white English continue to hate themselves and their culture more and more as a result of abandoning religion, you will naturally becoming more sympathetic to alternatives.

    And you might even begin investigating yhevJewish alternative, and see that it is very far from the bogeyman monster you think it is 🙂

    Not so long ago I too thought Judaism was monstrous. But then I looked.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  51. @Gilad Atzmon

    Chosen people and peoples tend to get things done in the pursuit of visionary and innovative grand projects. If they believe they are special, they may truly be special.

    They may also excel in creating large-scale human disasters. There is an upside and a downside. It’s complicated.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  52. @AaronB

    Oh boy. The other side of this Savior coin is Persecutor.

    “By suffering for their wickedness….”

    See what you’re doing there? You’ve already branded them as deplorable. As night follows day, you will ultimately take pleasure in avenging yourself upon them for their having burdened you with the role of bearing their iniquities.

    “only in the Messianic age will they understand their mistake” and when you finally realize that that age will not dawn in your lifetime, then you will break out of the constraints that your delusions have imposed upon you and wreck your revenge upon what you regard as the source of your frustration; justifiably, in your view since they have broken the covenant.

    Your are, seriously now, a psychopath.

    We European harbor psychopaths of our own, but they are of a our own stripe. We have built-in cultural methods of zeroing them out. Against your particular brand of psychosis, we have no effective defense. But we shall eventually evolve one.

    Like a plague bacillus we tried to isolate you people beyond the Pale. Now you are amongst us. Many of us will die. Those that survive will have developed an immunity and shall be stronger for it.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  53. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    Indeed, the idea that the weak – the biologically un-superior from a Darwinian point – but morally superior would inherit the Earth is a Jewish idea.

    No other nation made that their central idea.

    In the Psalms we read for the first time “the meek shall inherit the Earth” – which later became the quintessential Christian idea – and the whole Psalms talk about how the proud and mighty man will be cast low.

    The Prophets strike the same note.

    No proud Greek or Roman, no Assyrian or could ever have said such things.

    So really, really surprising that you find it strange that lack of biological and worldly superiority had no impact on Jews sense of their mission to teach the world that biological superiority is not important….

    • Replies: @anon
  54. AaronB says:
    @ThreeCranes

    The vision in Isaiah is – Jews will suffer for the crimes of other nations who do not know God. Through this, the other nations will not suffer destruction for their iniquity. They will persecute the Jews, thinking God despises the Jews.

    In the End Times, the nations will be astonished to see the scope of their mistake, acknowledge God, lay down their arms, cease making strife, and rejoice with Jews.

    Also, the bulk of Isaiah is about detailing the crimes and iniquities of his contemporary Jews – it is the exact opposite of drawing a line between deplorable gentiles and righteous Jews. The exact opposite.

    The bulk of his prophecy is bitterly denouncing Jews – the End Times prophecy is about a righteous remnant.

    Everyone can decide for themselves whether this is a psychopathic vision.

  55. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    > biological superiority is not important

    What you’re saying is…

    Parasites can function like keystone species, reducing the dominance of superior competitors and allowing competing species to co-exist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism

    • Replies: @AaronB
  56. AaronB says:
    @anon

    Lol, well that, at least, makes the role of parasite more benign.

    Peaceful coexistence doesn’t sound so bad.

    If you must use the language of modern biology and Darwinism – then that is probably the closest it can cone to describing the Jewush mission, seeing as modern biology recognizes no other principle than survival of the fittest.

    Lol, though

    • Replies: @anon
  57. @AaronB

    After some time of clearer thinking, you’re back to your freely associating confusions. Now…

    * you got a good point that the chosen ideology could be interpreted as a defense mechanism, in Freudian sense, as a compensation for visible lack of success in terms of nationhood, politics etc. But, you are wrong if you aver that ancient Hebrews saw themselves only as some kind of ethereal spiritual people whose chief task was the spread of ethical monotheism. No, their collective imagination required success in this world & only after they had been crushed & dispersed, they started to develop theology of suffering & of Israel’s punishment by Yahweh because she was whoring with other nations. Only in post-exilic line of thought this isolationism crystallized, with Ezra the scribe & others. Until that event, most Hebrew societies were essentially henotheistic – I have my god, you have yours & let’s live according to our respective customs.

    * what is fascinating is “spiritual racism”, to call it that, that Jews are inherently spiritually different & better than others. No other tradition claims such a thing.

    Some of these texts are apologetic & try to paint Jewish spiritual psychology in a more universalist & positive light, but even they are forced to concede that traditional Jewish spiritual anthropology is radically tribal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah#Distinction_between_Jews_and_non-Jews

    Distinction between Jews and non-Jews

    https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/9371/do-gentiles-have-neshamot

    Do gentiles have neshamot?

    http://jeremyrosen.com/2004/11/do-non-jews-have-souls.html

    Do non-Jews have souls?

    http://daatemet.org.il/en/question/the-jewish-soul-is-it-possible/

    The Jewish soul–is it possible?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  58. @AaronB

    “Everyone can decide for themselves whether this is a psychopathic vision.”

    You agree that it may be a psychopathic vision, right? Delusional? Ungrounded in reality? Destructive and self-destructive? A major mental disorder with perhaps genetic roots and causes?

    Shall we call it a Messiah Complex?

    If that were the case, might this explain why the proponents of this messianic and utopian belief system have encountered such a hostile reception in all times and places?

    I don’t rule out the possibility that it may be true. But what are the odds?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Miggle
  59. @AaronB

    Aaron,

    I respect you for laying out your ideological schema and program with admirable honesty in the lion’s den. You have the courage of your convictions.

    (lion’s den: “a place or state of extreme disadvantage, antagonism, or hostility.””)

    • Replies: @AaronB
  60. Blake says:

    No surprises there nope

  61. Anonymous[428] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    😁

  62. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I have no doubt there are Jews who have interpreted chosenness to mean spiritual racism – just as, in modern times there have been Jews who interpret it as Darwinian superiority.

    Ideas do get corrupted, of course.

    The point is, these interpretations make the system no longer consistent but contradictory, and are in conflict with the basic traditional teaching of Judaism. They literally make the teachings of mainstream Judaism nonsense.

    The prophet Isiah, who I was reading yesterday, goes on and on about how wicked his generation of Jews are, and how they will be cut off from God for being so unjust and oppressive, and only a righteous remnant will remain, and in the end all the nations will serve God.

    This makes precisely zero sense if Jews believe in spiritual racism.

    Moreover, normative Judaism contains many parables about how Jews were not chosen for being superior in any way in and of themselves, and they should never think so.

    The main parable in normative Judaism is that God offered his Torah to all the nations of the Earth first – how, if they have no souls?

    As for success in this world – quite correct. If Jews follow God faithfully and fulfill his mission, they are promised success in this world and the next, and in the End Times. But they are not to be an empire, but a thriving nation in their own land – living a holy life. And ultimately, its all for the next world, the transfigured world.

    But ultimately, all the nations are supposed to recognize God, and rejoice with the Jews and lay down the sword.

  63. AaronB says:
    @Sean McBride

    You mean here a psychotic vision – as in delusional. Psychopathic means immoral, cruel, and vicious – and that it is not by any means.

    Is it a delusion? I think the basic vision is true – something like it appears in all religions, in different ways.

    We humans see through a glass darkly.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  64. PPB says:

    If the general attitude of “chosenness”, whether expressed by Jews or people of other ancestry, and whether or not supported by a broader cultural mythology, can manifest itself both as genius and as sociopathy, I see in it a parallel to adolescent precociousness as a developmental syndrome. In other words, both chosenness (in its long-term effects as a dominant cultural meme) and precociousness may be associated with a heightened perception and awareness, increaed intelligence and capacity for action, but only within a limited sphere that has not yet opened itself to any deeper wisdom, and which therefore betrays its own immaturity despite itself, thus setting a perfect stage for egostistical self-expression ranging from simply irritating to truly malevolent.

    Personally, I have no issue with Jews, and my experience with Jews as individuals has been net positive despite the fact that any large demographic group is going to be littered with a few stinkers, and all cultural ideologies that I’m aware of tend to distort truth in some measure. If there are some self-identified Jews who therefore imagine themselves to be superior to other people and demonstrate that arrogance as a prominent feature of their personality, then the ones that I’ve come ito contact with are few and far between. That isn’t to say that they don’t exist, but I imagine that they would be just as little attracted to me as a potential friend as I would be to them.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  65. @Bardon Kaldian

    I’ve seen a speculation that Judaism as a cohesive measure was developed during the Babylonian Captivity, and developed only among the semi-elite craftspeople that the Babylonians thought would be worthwhile enslaving. If you think about it, the idea of “chosen people” suggests pretty strongly that if you aren’t one, you’re doomed. Add some dietary restrictions to that, and you get an isolated primary society. Apparently the Jains have something similar, enforced in their case with elaborate dietary restrictions.
    This is a ‘form follows function” anthropological argument, of course, and the plausibility argument for it is that Judaism as a largely-genetic conservation method has, indeed, succeeded over several thousand years.

    In Christianity, Gnosticism has tended to produce similar results. Those with hidden knowledge of God have tended to treat others as expendable on the grounds that they’re going to Hell for eternity, so why bother treating them like people who would live forever?

    Another analogy, of course, is with the old time Hells Angels. Not bad people as people, quite often, but if you fought one you fought all, and you never quite knew what was going to set one of them off.

    Counterinsurgency

  66. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @alexander

    How is it possible that almost the entire population of the United States knows nothing about it ?

    How? Chameleon Judaism http://judaism.is/perpetrators.html#chameleons and kosher media.

    They have disguised themselves as “Portuguese” slavers, “Yankee” slave ship owners, Young “Turks,” “Russian” mafia, “Austrian” economists, “atheistic” Communism, “Hollywood” pornographers, Marranos, Dönmeh, “neocons,” “international” financiers, etc. All these disguises of chameleon Judaism are quintessentially talmudic—derivative of the deceitful exhortation of Moed Kattan 17a that teaches Jews that when they are tempted to do evil, they should disguise themselves, then do their evil “in another city.” The Talmud is full of corollary instructions to do evil against gentiles providing there is no blowback on the tribe.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
    , @alexander
  67. Don’t forget that the conversion of the Jews comes right before the end of the world. Be careful what you wish for.

    Counterinsurgency

  68. Devon says: • Website
    @Blue Corgi

    It’s complete in the original text so, not sure who you are referring to. There is nothing fictitious about the complete statement so maybe you should take some time to read Theodor Herzl.

  69. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @AaronB

    They saw their mission as being to bring all the nations of the world closer to God…

    So they say. Meanwhile for millennia they have insisted that they “defeat,” “command,” and “confuse” God. http://judaism.is/torah.html#megalomania . The (((hypocrites))) cherry-pick Isaias for their failed and long-rescinded “light unto the Gentiles” mission (Isaias 42:6, 49:6, 60:3), but claim that Isaias was killed by having his own mouth sawed in half for daring to accuse the Israelites for their “unclean lips” (Isaias 6:5):

    [Isaias] thereupon pronounced [the Divine] Name and was swallowed up by a cedar. The cedar, however, was brought and sawn asunder. When the saw reached his mouth he died. [And this was his penalty] for having said, ‘And I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips’. Babylonian Talmud, Yebamoth 49b, Soncino Edition

    The megalomaniacal hypocrites are ever ready to “defeat” God (Bava Metzia 59b) and His Prophets, even boiling Jesus in excrement and semen (Gittin 57a). is also amusing that they cherry-pick Isaias for being “light unto the world”

    The Koliner rebbe [17th century rabbi of Prague] stated, “Our Zaddikim’s (famous Orthodox rabbis) words are more important than the Torah of Moses As our Sages teach: A Zaddik decrees, and God obeys.”

    “God smiled and said: ‘My sons have defeated Me, My sons have defeated Me!’ God’s sons ‘defeated him’ with their arguments. Rabbi Yehoshua was correct in his contention that a view confirmed by majority vote must be accepted, even where God Himself holds the opposite view.” Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Bava Metzia 59b, Steinsaltz Edition [NY: Random House 1990], Vol. III p.237

    “… The rabbi constituted the projection of the divine on earth. Honor was due him more than to the scroll of the Torah, for through his learning and logic he might alter the very content of Mosaic revelation. He was Torah, not merely because he lived by it, but because at his best he constituted as compelling an embodiment of the heavenly model as did a Torah scroll itself.” Rabbi Jacob Neusner, “The Phenomenon of the Rabbi in Late Antiquity: II The Ritual of ‘Being a Rabbi’ in Later Sasanian Babylonia,” Numen, Vol.17, Fasc. 1., Feb., 1970, pp.3-4

    Sephardic Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar commanded ‘G-d’ to send ‘the Messiah’ at Lubavitch headquarters in Brooklyn http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2016/02/sephardic-chief-rabbi-shlomo-amar.html

    On Rosh Hashanah (Talmudic New Year), the shofar (ram’s horn) is blown to confuse Satan and God so “the Jews” may escape accountability for their sins
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2015/09/on-rosh-hashanah-talmudic-new-year.html

    What diabolical arrogance to think men can confuse, blame, overrule, and command God. Such are Satan’s chosen people.

  70. Devon says: • Website
    @AaronB

    Servants of the Lord created by Jews who tells them goyim are meant to be nothing more than slaves to Jews. The Jewish god says steal from a fellow Jew=bad, steal from a gentile=good.

  71. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    > the role of parasite

    At least you own up to your parasitism.

    > more benign

    Not hardly.

    > modern biology recognizes no other principle than survival of the fittest.

    Wrong again.

    “Survival of the fittest” is a poor way to think about evolution. Darwin himself did not use the phrase in the first edition of Origin of Species. What Darwin said is that heritable variations lead to differential reproductive success.

    Creationist Claim CA500: Survival of the Fittest
    http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA500.html

  72. @AaronB

    It could be argued that utopian ideologies based on a vision of future universal peace are a form of self-medication.

    Everywhere we look around us in nature, across all species, we see relentless competition, conflict and struggle among individuals and groups. It has always been this way and will almost certainly always be this way. The universe as a whole is, fundamentally, an extremely chaotic and violent environment.

    This is an unbearably stressful situation for many human beings. Dreaming about a future era in which the stress will be relieved by the cessation of conflict and violence is highly seductive. Numerous failed religious and secular cults have been created based on nurturing this delusion, and they keep arising with minor thematic variations.

    The Messiah is never going to arrive — just one bogus messiah after another until the human species ceases to exist on this particular planet. No amount of cult enthusiasm will alter reality one iota.

    Cults are con games, designed to benefit the creators and leaders of cults more than their gullible followers.

    Well, that is one grim scenario at any rate.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  73. jews were the chosen people but they screwed it up by killing the Son of God.

    Now jews are basically just a criminal cabal trying to wreck western civilization.

    Oh, and instigate WWIII to end life on earth as we know it.

    The chosen-ness aspect has led to group ego inflation and reckless behavior that endangers all of humanity.

    jews should be kept on short leash as they are not qualified to lead as their particularist philosophy is immoral. jews do what is good for the jews which always results in disaster for the rest of us.

  74. @AaronB

    All religions & their texts are internally inconsistent, Judaism being no exception. All I am saying is that mainstream Jewish teaching through the ages is: a) Jews are superior to non-Jews because of the covenant with God, b) those who dabbled into tricky questions of identity, anthropology, psychology, interactions with Gentiles….. came up, overwhelmingly, with the answer: Jewish “souls” are superior to Gentiles’ & this will be evident after some apocalyptic event in the world to come.

    That’s it, mainstream world-view of that tradition until 19th C (and perhaps later). It may sound not ethically acceptable, but that’s reality.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  75. DaveE says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran, your comments are always welcome, as you testify magnificently and constantly to the utterly rotten underbelly of the Jewish so-called “religion”.

    As far as you being FOS, see the following:

    http://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/nyregion/24jersey.html

    Or also the book, largely about the same Jewish organ-trafficking ring, a major FBI bust which took years to prepare:

  76. Mulegino1 says:

    The Jewish identity (as distinguished from the Jewish gene- if there is one) is one of ethnocentric psychopathy, and it grows worse year by year. It increases in malevolence. Since its origin involves the rejection of Christ/Logos, it is doomed to deteriorate as the ages go by, as it is destined to become the matrix of Antichrist, i.e., the reign of the devil.

    As Gilad, and many others have pointed out, the problem is not one of blood origins or race, but one of identity. If one born Jewish abjures the hateful, Antichrist Jewish identity, he or she can rejoin the human race. On the other hand, if he or she continues to embrace the Antichrist identity, and concur in the murder of Christ/Logos at the hands of the Sanhedrin, then there is no recourse but to name him or her as an enemy of all of humanity.

    To those adhering to the Jewish identity “Arbeit Macht Frei” was a fearful omen, not because it was a prelude to suffering or death, but because it implied that Jews had to join common humanity as equals, not as “the chosen.” The part of that phrase that struck fear in the Jew was “Arbeit.”

  77. Jews!!!!!!!!!!!

    The world’s best and most persistent scammers…of just about anything and everything.

    I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them.

  78. Nearly every group thinks it is ‘chosen’ or ‘gifted’, be it R.F. Delderfield’s God is an Englishman or Gott mit uns (God with us) or Americans with their “City upon a Hill” from the English Puritan John Winthrop.

    The problem is going to another culture or country and indulging in tribalism that is harmful to the host population. Zionists aren’t the only offenders. Indians have an AIPAC clone – the United States India Political Action Committee.

    When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Take one Nigel Farage. He is no longer French Huguenot but English through and through.

  79. AaronB says:
    @Sean McBride

    If this was the nature of the world, wouldn’t it make sense that human beings would have evolved to take pleasure and delight in ceaseless strife?

    Wouldn’t we simply be in our “element”, like lions, and not even be able to imagine anything else – much less desire it?

    Evolution then should have designed us to be perfectly adapted to this condition of endless strife.

    Indeed, Nietzsche spent his life trying to convince everyone that they should take delight in this endless strife – and ended up insane.

    Yet it seems every human society on earth felt that “something is wrong” with the world as we know it.

    What’s more, it goes beyond just conflict and strife.

    Humans yearn for a world of magic and wonder and adventure, and are not satisfied with prosaic ordinary life.

    It seems Evolution has made a huge mistake in creating creatures that are completely unable to be satisfied with their existence.

    Or, we are not made for this world 🙂

    All of our desires have something to satisfy them here – food, sex, etc. We are not aware of any desire without something to satisfy it in this world.

    Except for one longing that nothing in this world can satisfy.

  80. Sean says:

    The escape from choseness to the ordinary must be an individual struggle, a surrender to self-contempt that eventually matures into a genuine search for peace and harmony with the universe, with the soil and with one’s neighbours.

    But scarcity of good things and an accurate perception of conflicts of interest on Earth underlies the conflicts between individuals and peoples, not a lack of goodwill in the Universe.

    One is supposed to–as an individual–seek to be delivered to justice rather than ask for mercy, but for others one is supposed to ask that their trespasses be forgiven. I don’t think a member of a group ought to say it treats others badly, because that is the kind of thing one can only say about oneself. Even seriously denying one’s own young children treats in order to send the money where is could cure sick lids leading miserable lives is not actually practiced by anyone because it’s different to denying one’s self in order to do good.

    There is also a problem of what Atzmon’s theory of harmony would be like in practice. Without the codes of ethics that leads religious / nation states to treat each other as either friend or foe one would see an end to war and territorial conquest. And states. Whether there would not be other forms of victimisation as new groups formed on the basis of socio economic level and an international ruling elite established worldwide harmony is a serious consideration. In a global system of many national states, each considering themselves the best people in the world there is surle more opportunity for the lower orders to alter policy. Look at Brexit, or Trump. World harmony with everyone generous to others, disgusted with themselves, and agreeing that they have got their just deserts sounds great in theory, but there are no precedents to tell us whether conflict and victimisation would truly be transcended, or become much worse.

  81. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    These strands of Judaism undoubtedly exist of course, but you are taking them for normative, which they have never been.

    The religion, at its core, was not understood thus way, and for the most part, is not today.

    Its like Protestants deciding that money is a sign of God’s favor, when Jesus said the rich man can’t get into heaven.

    This kind of corruption is a part of religion, and we should indeed keep this in mind.

    I do not object to identifying a racialist or spiritually exclusivist strand in Judaism as part of the total picture, just as every religion has its dark side. I just object to making that the essence, and not providing a comprehensive picture.

  82. PPB says:
    @AaronB

    “Especially as he sees his environment in Britain collapse around him, and realizes where European Enlightenment ideas eventually lead.”

    What is specifically wrong with Enlightenment ideas, provided that they are held and implemented in a complementary balance with other perspectives? How is it that the degradation of current society and culture in Britain ans elsewhere is primarily due to an increased disinterest in religion? If we’re going to attribute responsibility for this decline to any individual factors, isn’t it also religion’s fault for becoming watered down and dumbed down, portraying mythic narrative as science or history, culturally-specific mores as divine imperatives, and focusing on its own scaffolding at the expense of its essence? Was life in Europe really all that much better when it was governed by a punitive religious dogmatism? Please know that I have no argument against either religious or Enlightenment ideals as long as each of them recognizes the appropriate sphere to which it pertains, and is subject to a human itelligence that knows how to bring the two into balance. I would also suggest that the corrupting influences that have distorted, fragmented and degraded religion as well as European Enlightenment values, some of which were genuinely inspired in their own way, were one and the same. And no, I’m not talking Judaism or Jews, but hinting at a deeper outgoing tide.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Colin Wright
  83. AaronB says:
    @PPB

    The defining feature of the Enlightenment was that it was maximalist rationality – reason will solve all our problems, we can know nothing outside of reason, and implied in this – material comfort is our highest goal.

    Yes, rationality confined to its proper sphere is not bad. But that’s not the Enlightenment.

    Life on this Earth is always more or less suffering – but traditional societies had a way out, a vision of life beyond this Earth, religion.

    Now we are left to suffer with no hope or escape. So yes, in that way we are a million times worse since the Enlightenment.

    Also, when we accepted that life on this Earth was not all there was, we were content to find as much satisfaction as we could within our natural limits, living according to our human nature – today, we rebel against human nature even, adding an unnecessary layer of misery, because we no longer believe our dissatisfactions will be relieved in another world.

    And in the end, we hate ourselves, whereas traditional societies did not – the clearest indication we live now by ideas that offer no satisfaction or hope.

    • Replies: @PPB
    , @Colin Wright
  84. @AaronB

    ‘I have no doubt there are Jews who have interpreted chosenness to mean spiritual racism…’

    …and you are pleased to interpret Judaism so as to frog-march it into conformity with modern liberal, universalist ideals. You’d probably feel compelled to insist the Torah advocates one man one vote if it came up.

    The difficulty is that taken as a whole, the actual contents of the the Torah don’t particularly support your position. Still less do the contents of the Talmud and other texts of Rabbinical Judaism.

    Finally, the actual, historical behavior of Jews and the Jewish state doesn’t support your position at all. When they’ve had power over others, their conduct has ranged from brutally oppressive to rabidly murderous.

    It’s as if I insisted that the Mongols had been trying to spread a message of universal tolerance and mercy — and this is the true meaning of the cult of the sky-god. Of course, there is the minor detail that Mongol culture or traditional religious beliefs doesn’t particularly support this theory, and the actual behavior of Genghis Khan certainly doesn’t.

    But hey. I’d rather it did. Ditto for you and Judaism.

    • Agree: Al Liguori
  85. @AaronB

    Huh?

    I am not saying that Judaism is reducible to this particular strain. I am just stating the obvious & this is that normative Judaism & Kabbalah (plus most other currents, though not all) thought that Jews were inherently superior due to different spiritual anthropology, which is rooted in the covenant & Torah.

    I say 2 plus 2 is 4, and you claim: nah, it’s the minority opinion. I gave you links, not from some nutty conspiracy theorists, that confirm what I’ve said.

    That said, two things could be addressed.

    Jewish supremacism does exist, of course, but it is not, for most supremacist Jews, anchored in this weird archaic psychology. They generally find other reasons.

    There is one, important yet vanished spiritual tradition, Valentinian Gnosticism (Valentinus of Alexandria, died 180 AD) which is similar to this. I vaguely remember from Eliade’s 3-volume work on history of religious ideas, 2nd tome, that Valentinus thought that only the elect, who must be Christians, have spiritual seed planted in their souls after the fall (he invented the entire epic fantasy story loosely based on the Bible account). So, according to Valentinus, only elect Christians -not all Christians & others, non-Christians he wouldn’t even talk about – can be truly resurrected because only they possessed dormant spiritual seed which could be awoken & then complete transfiguration follows for them (others go to dust). Here is the quotation:

    From the beginning you have been immortal and you are children of eternal life. And you wanted death to be allocated to yourselves so that you might spend it and use it up, and that death might die in you and through you. For when you nullify the world and are not yourselves annihilated, you are lord over creation and all corruption.

    Other forms of Gnosis in other traditions are universalist.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  86. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Isn’t there also the Calvinist idea of predestination, where some souls are chosen by God for salvation regardless of how they behave in life?

    And I thought other Protestant sects also had thus belief, that God chooses some souls for salvation and others for destruction – without any reference to whether they lived good lives, etc.

    Don’t entirely remember.

    Hard to believe large numbers of people could believe this.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  87. @Mulegino1

    It’s like America is in a Jew cult. The jew cult leader fucks his wife, slaps him around, teaches his kids to hate him, the girls he turns into whores the boys cut their dicks off and the Jew takes everything the man has and…..

    And the man is going door to door. Telling everyone the good news. I’ve seen the light. Come join our cult.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  88. @PPB

    ‘…What is specifically wrong with Enlightenment ideas, provided that they are held and implemented in a complementary balance with other perspectives? ‘

    Indeed. You remind me that life in Europe before the Enlightenment could be distinctly gruesome, oppressive, and shrouded in ignorance. The earlier eras had their points — but I think I’d really rather be in an eighteenth century Paris coffee shop than facing a sixteenth-century Spanish inquisitor.

    This was one unexpected take-away I had from Toaff’s Blood Passover. Aside from the specific case in question, the picture of life in the sixteenth century that emerges isn’t exactly appealing. Drowned in ignorance, hag-ridden by religious orthodoxy, riven by the most grotesque superstitions and barbarisms…

    Beam me up, Scotty. I’d rather argue with Voltaire any day.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  89. PPB says:
    @AaronB

    “Now we are left to suffer with no hope or escape. So yes, in that way we are a million times worse since the Enlightenment.”

    Who is this “we” that you are projecting this maudlin and defeatist notion onto?
    Do human fashions in culture and belief really create impenetrable barriers to seeing through them, whether to a greater unchanging reality underneath and beyond theiir comings and goings, or to the clarity of just plain common sense?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  90. @AaronB

    ‘…Isn’t there also the Calvinist idea of predestination, where some souls are chosen by God for salvation regardless of how they behave in life?…’

    That’s not quite it. If you’re chosen for salvation, you’ll want to be good.

    So if you don’t, you must be damned. Perhaps needless to say, this must create psychological issues. My impression is that everyone goes around trying to convince themselves they don’t even want to sin.

    As a kind of objective connoisseur of religions and religious sects — I don’t actually believe any of them — I’d pick Catholicism, better.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  91. @Gilad Atzmon

    My comments are following your logic, you always judging the respectability of ones thought process, in your Athens vs, Jerusalem. This article is shite Jerusalem at its worst.

    Who cares about this French theft case, or any other points in this article other than your manipulation to make it about Jewish choseness, creativity and genius used for bad purposes. The gene pool gone wild.

    There is nothing rational or useful in this article other then a messianic desire to denigrate Jewish creativity and brilliance and show it being used for criminal purposes. For the sole manipulative purpose of feeding your cult followers, or as you would say duplicitious

    Chikli’s racket is astonishing, creative; criminologists may decide that it borders on genius. Although Chikli didn’t invent the art of the swindle, he ratcheted it up to a higher level.

    Let me give you my Athenian thought for the day.

    I am still one of Britain most popular jazz artists …

    Being a popular Jazz artist in Britain is like being a great Opera composer outside Italy.
    I mean you are far, far far away from the core of Jazz brilliance. You can never be as good as Miles Davis or as good as even Chikli was as a criminal. Not your chosen gene pool.


    Jazz. This is the latest accepted revision, reviewed on 25 June 2019. Jazz is a music genre that originated in the African-American communities of New Orleans, United States. It originated in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and developed from roots in blues and ragtime.

  92. @AaronB

    ‘…Life on this Earth is always more or less suffering – but traditional societies had a way out, a vision of life beyond this Earth, religion.

    Now we are left to suffer with no hope or escape. So yes, in that way we are a million times worse since the Enlightenment…’

    There will be pie in the sky, by and by, when you die…

    There is the minor detail that there’s no reason to think there actually is an afterlife. Am I really better off if I build my whole life around a delusion? Shouldn’t I face facts and try to get what I want now, while I can?

    It’s actually interesting that you appear to prefer to rely on the notion of life everlasting. It’s not a particularly strong element in Judaism. Could this be the influence of two millennia of Christianity on you?

  93. AaronB says:
    @PPB

    It is my belief that it applies to everyone.

    But if you don’t feel that way, that’s fine.

    I fur a I feel a longing and a yearning nothing in this world can satisfy – if you are satisfied, then good and well.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  94. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Ah, I see.

    My preference among Christian sects is for Orthodoxy. Very mystical, and passed the test of time.

    Catholicism is sadly defunct.

  95. @AaronB

    ‘It is my belief that it applies to everyone.

    But if you don’t feel that way, that’s fine.

    I fur a I feel a longing and a yearning nothing in this world can satisfy – if you are satisfied, then good and well.’

    If only.

    It doesn’t follow that because you want something, it exists.

  96. Sean McBride: “What if the universe doesn’t really care if a sense of chosenness is nice or not nice, but that a sense of chosenness provides a competitive advantage for those experiencing it?

    What if there is in fact a genetic basis for a sense of chosenness among human beings?”

    I think this is the case for most things in religion. A prime example is the idea of the “soul”, which seems common to virtually all religions, and is based on the erroneous idea that human beings are not their bodies. Of course, if you are not “really” your body, just a soul, then it becomes hard to tell races and sexes apart, since race is a biological concept, as is sex. Thus, much confusion has at its start this erroneous premise. On the other hand, this delusion is so persistent and deep, and so cross-cultural, we can’t attribute it to any one religion. It appears to be hard-wired; a necessary false idea.

    This misconception of the self as an entity apart from one’s body leads directly to another erroneous idea, the universal impression that the human will is free, not dependent or driven by causality. Modern science tends to say no to this, though there are some holdouts who try to find free will in quantum theory. To me, this seems a dubious line of reasoning, since quantum theory also applies to trees and rocks, and yet nobody thinks they have free will; and also motions due to random chance are not controllable, which it seems would be required in order for the theory to intersect with the idea of free will. Nevertheless, it’s hard to imagine what human society would look like if humans were not possessed of these erroneous ideas, and it seems obvious that evolution must have favored those who had them. Who can question that a man is in complete control of his own actions, and must be responsible for them? The very structure of society depends on it. Life itself is based on illusions such as these; they permeate our thinking thoroughly, whether we like it or not.

    Then we have the idea of love, which is the stock-in-trade of the bit of flummery known as Christianity. Love grades into compassion and empathy, and it’s due to the success of the Christian religion in excising all rivals in the West that such bogus notions have such prestige. In biological terms, love is an illusion, the same as free will or the idea of the soul. Love is always reducible to self-interest. A parent loves a child because it perpetuates his genes, and the child his parents because his survival depends on it. Reproductive success is also the basis of romantic love between the sexes. Empathy? There’s a lot of survival advantage concealed in that word too. Just ask Bill “I feel your pain” Clinton. It’s hokum that can be variously employed, a veritable Swiss army knife for anyone with sufficient ingenuity. We learn, for example, that an important reason for the spread of the white man to the New World was his great concern to save the souls of the natives over there; likewise with slavery. The white man had to enslave the negro and civilize and Christianize him for the negro’s own good. At one time that was obvious to anyone with sufficient empathy, but then somehow the fashion changed.

    Lies have had their uses throughout history. The best and deepest lies require no persuasion, because everyone already believes them, and needs to believe them to function in society at all. So yes, hard-wired.

    • Agree: Sean McBride
    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  97. @AaronB

    ‘…My preference among Christian sects is for Orthodoxy. Very mystical, and passed the test of time…’

    Ah yes.

    ‘On 5 December 1931, by order of Stalin’s minister Lazar Kaganovich, the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour was dynamited and reduced to rubble.’

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  98. PPB says:

    “I fur a I feel a longing and a yearning nothing in this world can satisfy – if you are satisfied, then good and well.”

    Quite naturally, “the world”, if understood and experienced in its limited capacity as an objective physical environment, is also a limited source of satisfaction, if that’s what someone seeks within it and from it. But instead of all this lamentation and yearning for what lies beyood the boundaries of what you call “this world” (boundaries which are purely imaginary, by the way, as this “world” has no self-subsistence), why not simply recognize and seize it as your own?

  99. @Druid

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-and-the-african-slave-trade/

    Mainstream scholars have on the whole rejected it. In addition to the study by Faber cited above, refutations have been published by Davis, the Yale professor mentioned above, and Ralph Austen, an emeritus professor of African history at the University of Chicago. Winthrop D. Jordan, a history professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who specialized in slavery, wrote that the book employed shoddy scholarly methods and cherry-picked information, ignoring evidence that modified or countered its pre-ordained conclusion. Henry Louis Gates, director of the Hutchins Center for African and African American Research at Harvard University called the Nation of Islam’s book “one of the most sophisticated instances of hate literature yet compiled,” and charged that it “massively misrepresents the historical record.”

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  100. Mulegino1 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Yes. The “Dumbmericans” eat this stuff up. They patronize Hymiewood, Jewish owned professional sports teams, and Jewish owned “celebrities.”

    They are in debt to Jewish financial institutions who charge them compound interest and their kids run up huge debts because of student loans so that Jewish academicians in the social sciences can teach them to hate themselves. These are the exact same people who go to the mega-church on Sunday so they can hear about how a criminal state is God’s chosen vehicle to destroy the entire world, and then go gorge themselves at the Golden Corral as they await the rapture into some otherworldly version of Las Vegas.

  101. Mulegino1 says:
    @Colin Wright

    How ridiculous that international Jewry got all hot under the collar about the anti-pornography and anti-degeneracy bonfires in National Socialist Germany but completely ignored this horrendous act of vandalism and destruction.

  102. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @AaronB

    These strands of Judaism undoubtedly exist of course, but you are taking them for normative, which they have never been. The religion, at its core, was not understood thus way, and for the most part, is not today.

    Smarmy rubbish as usual. See ¶2 .

    The “strands” are “normative” in that nuclear-armed “shitty little country” (to borrow French Ambassador Bernard’s apt appellation) and in their colonies on the Thames, Potomac, and Hudson Rivers.

  103. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    …called the Nation of Islam’s book “one of the most sophisticated instances of hate literature yet compiled,” and charged that it “massively misrepresents the historical record.”

    As if the NOI—and not the rabbis—wrote this evil???

    “…the servitude of animalistic black Africans should be perpetual.”
    Isaac Abarbanel, 15th-century Portuguese Talmudic theologian, in
    David Brion Davis, Inhuman Bondage: The Rise and Fall of Slavery in the New World, (Oxford University Press, 2006), p. 55.

    “God created them [goyim] in the form of men for the glory of Israel… for the sole end of ministering unto them [the Jews] day and night. Nor can they ever be relieved of this service. It is becoming to the son of a king [an Israelite] that animals in their natural form and animals in the form of human beings should minister unto him.” Midrash Talpioth 225a

    “For, the world was created only for the sake of Israel. There are none called the children of God, except Israel. There are none beloved of God, except Israel.” Seven Minor Treatises: Sefer Torah; Mezuzah; Tefillin; Zizit; Abadim; Kutim; Gerim And Treatise Soferim II. Edited from manuscripts with an introduction, notes, variants and translation. By Michael Higger, Ph.D. New York; Block Publishing Company. 1930. Pp. 47-48.

    “Aaron ben Joseph ha-Levi of Barcelona (1235 – c.1290) author of Sefer haHinukh, agrees with Maimonides. He writes: ‘A gentile slave has to be enslaved forever … one of the main reasons being that since the Jewish nation is the elite of the human race and the Jews were chose to worship their creator and to serve before Him they deserve to have slaves to serve them. If they will not have slaves from the midst of the neighboring nations they will have to get slaves from their own midst and they (i.e., the Jewish slaves) will be unable to serve God; therefore we are commanded to keep gentiles slaves forever …’” Judah M. Rosenthal. The Slavery Controversy and Judaism. Conservative Judaism, Volumes 31-32, p.171. http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/03/jewish-nation-is-elite-of-human-race.html

    Senior Sephardi Rabbi Ovadia Yosef announces that Gentiles only exist to serve Jews:

    Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel… In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew. Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.” Yosef: “Gentiles exist only to serve Jews” by Jonah Mandel, Jerusalem Post, 10/18/2010

    Gene Simmons (Chaim Witzman of Kiss) says gentiles are for manual labor

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/Gene_Simmons_%28Kiss%29_says_gentiles_are_for_manual_labor/34210/0/0/0/Y/M.html?morestories=obinsite

    More on Jews and slavery here:

    http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-slavery-black.html

    As if the NOI—and not Jews—provided the Ku Klux Klan hooded uniforms???


    The Chosen Folks: Jews on the Frontiers of Texas
    by Bryan Edward Stone, p. 130, https://books.google.com/books?id=68h1ej_DansC&pg=PA130&dq=klansmen+hoods+robes+jewish+manufacturer&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW4cTQ4srdAhWJTd8KHeTRBFkQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=klansmen%20hoods%20robes%20jewish%20manufacturer&f=false

  104. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    I mean you are far, far far away from the core of Jazz brilliance. You can never be as good as …

    …as good as Fran the furniture artist hack???

  105. Fran Taubman would be well advised to shut up.

    In another time and place, I would be mildly interested in having a conversation with AaronB — but at the moment, it’s a bit like talking with Goebbels while the ovens at Treblinka are roaring.

  106. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Misconceptions, misunderstandings, illusions, delusions, fantasies, lies, deceptions, etc. may often be the key to success in competition among human groups and individuals for territory, resources and power. What a peculiar universe we live in.

  107. @AaronB

    I doubt that I will be around for End Times and I suspect that you won’t either.
    I can say with confidence that I am not an Angel and I suspect that you are not one as well.

    So what happens if these End Times don’t occur? Then what?

    Well, humans being what they are i.e. not Angels, they will become disillusioned. When you Jews realize that you have borne mankind’s iniquities in vain then you will say, “These ungrateful goy bastards don’t realize that we have allowed ourselves to bear the burden of their their blame and wrath, acted as their scapegoats for all these many years as part of a Divine plan in which they too would ultimately be reconciled with God. We did it for them! We allowed them to use us and what do we get for all of our sacrifice? Not a damn thing. They don’t thank us for how much we have suffered on their account because they’re too damn dumb to even realize that we have been enabling them for so long. I tell you, I’m done with these people. They’re animals, just brute animals without a spark of higher wisdom. Screw em.”

    Enraged at them for having used you, you plot their destruction.

    But they didn’t use you. They never asked you to make martyrs of yourselves. You brought that into our relationship, as you have testified yourself. I never asked you to bear the burden of my mistakes or hatred until the End Times. Hell, I don’t even ask that of Jesus the Christ himself!

    That’s my beef with Christianity. I don’t want anybody to bear my sins. I’ll handle them myself. If I fuck up then I’m responsible. Don’t go carrying my load. And above all, don’t let yourself be nailed to the cross of your End Times delusions on my behalf. No Thanks.

    What you Jews don’t get is we Northern European Protestants don’t buy into that sin crap. We’re sinners, but we don’t need some Jew to die for our sins. Why would we need that? Go die for your own sins. Or whatever pleases you. Leave me out of it.

  108. @Mulegino1

    Sad truth all, but this part really hurts:

    …and their kids run up huge debts because of student loans so that Jewish academicians in the social sciences can teach them to hate themselves.

  109. @Mulegino1

    It really is all about JESUS who really is the DIVINE SON OF GOD.

    If one born Jewish abjures the hateful, Antichrist Jewish identity, he or she can rejoin the human race. On the other hand, if he or she continues to embrace the Antichrist identity, and concur in the murder of Christ/Logos at the hands of the Sanhedrin, then there is no recourse but to name him or her as an enemy of all of humanity.

    This is exactly why Jesus told the Jews who rejected Him and sought His destruction that they were the children of the devil (John 8:44) which infers/confers the same status to their descendants who likewise reject Him and seek the destruction of His flock.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  110. @Mulegino1

    As Gilad, and many others have pointed out, the problem is not one of blood origins or race, but one of identity. If one born Jewish abjures the hateful, Antichrist Jewish identity, he or she can rejoin the human race. On the other hand, if he or she continues to embrace the Antichrist identity, and concur in the murder of Christ/Logos at the hands of the Sanhedrin, then there is no recourse but to name him or her as an enemy of all of humanity.

    Gilad and Ron Unz may have rejected Jewish identity, but they sure have not recognized the Christ/Logos, son of god story, they reject that just as thoroughly.
    So are you saying that only Jews who do not renounce Judaism are the enemy of all humanity, or are you including in that, the rest of the non Christ /Logos who don’t give a rats ass about what happened in the Sandedrin.
    Why not ask Gilad and Ron directly. How about Muslims, and lets say Buddhist? Enemies of Humanity? Let me guess you mean those Christ killing Jews.
    Talk about someone with a superiority complex, you sound like the wicked witch of the west when the house fell on her, before her feet curled up.

    There is no recourse but to name them the enemies of Humanity. No recourse, I just love that. Well count me in.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  111. Al Liguori says: • Website

    There is no recourse but to name them the enemies of Humanity. No recourse, I just love that. Well count me in.

    Your defense of Israeli snipers killing unarmed children and pregnant women sufficed to make you an accomplice of Jewish crimes against humanity. Similarly, your confession to being from CHABAD comment #337 http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-war-criminals-in-their-own-words/ & your infatuation with KABBALA
    comment #165 http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/on-biblical-celebrities-and-jewish-symbolism/

  112. Wyatt says:
    @AaronB

    Well if their job was to bring everyone closer to God, the rising popularity of secularism, anti-theism, social isolation, nation wrecking and Christ knows what else, they’re pretty shit at it, huh?

    Given the damage individual jews and Israel have caused mankind, calling the jewish people a “light unto the nations” would only be true if it’s light caused by a nuke going off. First it blinds you and then it kills you.

  113. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    > the DIVINE SON OF GOD.

    (yawn) Like we all are.

    Psalm 82:6 “I have said, Ye are Gods…”
    John 10:34 “Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?”

  114. Mulegino1 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    So you concur in the murder of Christ by the Sanhedrin?

    No, you don’t have to make an act of faith in Christ to cease being an enemy of humanity, but- at the very least- you must recognize that your identity is one of psychopathic antipathy to humanity and that His murder was the act of calumnious criminals. Anyone with even the most cursory familiarity with the Talmud knows that it is a heap of hateful rubbish.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  115. End times will never occur. This Zoroastrian, among others, invention can be psychologically understandable- but such a thing won’t happen, period.

    And while I absolutely appreciate complexities of Christian culture & civilization, don’t forget it is basically alien & mid-Eastern, at least re roots. It is not Christian spirit that fundamentally defined the West, but its Greco-Roman heritage of individualism, anthropocentrism, skepticism & creativity. Christianity was Europeanized, but ….

    Judaism is, as I said, Ur-Kebab, Christianity is Euro-Kebab & Islam is Kebab on steroids.

    Of course, any sentimental or pragmatic effort to go back to pre-Christian mythology & religious life is, in this modern world, laughable…

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @AaronB
  116. Anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    I am not sure why you find that fascinating – the Jews never took the concept of chosennes to mean biological superiority,

    Through the matrilineal mandate for inclusion,

    the mishnaic scale of lineages that permanently demotes genetically unrelated converts and their progeny, and the

    biological qualifier that includes all biological Jews even when atheist,

    biology is exactly how chosenness is applied in the Jewish group.

    Any statement to the contrary is a clear lie. You are a person whose group already has so little credibility that even their true statements need to be held in quarantine and examined for an extended period of time (should attention be justified in the first place in light of their consistent deceit).

    In this case, the lie is immediately obvious.

    They saw their mission as being to bring all the nations of the world closer to God – so not being great warriors or artists really was rather beside the point.

    You are a typical entitled Jew whose mind has been made so soft by your group’s coddling in the past century that you believe that you can get away with the implication that the Jewish god is “god” for all peoples.

    Even in light of the open Jewish doctrines that state that the Jewish god is essentially a manifestation of the Jewish people, which is also how Jews see all gods or “guardian angels” for their respective tribes.

    The Jewish books furthermore state that the Jewish god (Jewish people) looks to destroy the “guardian angels” (a lazy cultural imperialist reframing of the gods of other tribes) of all other peoples in the ongoing “War in Heaven” (Zohar shemot 32a). Which is all simplistic metaphor for Jews stating that they wish to destroy the nationalism and ethnic-racial existence of all other tribes.

    What you wish for is aggressive out-group destruction and imperialism with no negative consequences for that effort. The game is up in general.

    I once had an Orthodox Jew, who was slightly retarded (really), tell me that “god” loved me to even though I wasn’t a Jew.

    He couldn’t hide his condescension because, again, the mentally disabled thing (I have found mentally disabled Jews, in general, to be a great source to reveal how Jews actually think – with no prodding from me). Because he was retarded, I resisted laughing at him for his attempt to veil his genocidal supremacist statement that assumed the nonexistence of the god of my tribe. A statement that tried to hide the fact that the Jewish “god” (people) does not have anything in mind for non-Jews other than the rabid genocide prescribed in the Old Testament.

    Intent that we saw you exercise in your bid to destroy Russia. Today, we are expecting the eventual, Jewish prodded and led, similar genocidal effort to ethnically cleanse our broader resistance group just as you did the Kulaks and Cossaks. Your press has been setting the stage for that eventual effort for decades. It is coming and we know it. Your texts, history, and your modern political efforts are how we know it.

    You aren’t retarded, just deceitful or massively ignorant of your own religion and history, and so the correct response is to laugh at you for your deceitful efforts.

    As for the point about souls, what was the point of being a light unto the nations if gentiles have no souls?

    A “light” how? To make the “nations” realize that the Jews are supreme beings and to serve them as virtual slaves with a worldwide tax to go to the Jews in the Messianic Age (assuming any non Jews survive the Jewish cultic, mass genocidal “Judgement Day”)?

    Or perhaps the “light” that informs the gentiles, with the souls of animals (be precise or don’t attempt to speak on the topic), that they should accept their own genocides for the benefit of the Jews in the Jewish Messianic Age?

    This “light” quality is never explained. What remains is the observable and consistent historical hostility toward the White gentile majorities, including the destruction of their ethncities and very existence as independent tribes (as prescribed in the Tanakh), and the vast trouble that has surrounded Jews as a result of their exploitative (and worse) behavior that has led to Jews being expelled from other nations more times than any other group in history.

    Your single pacifying phrase that suggests that the Jews are some type of “light” that no one has ever seen, often as they are suffering due to the Jewish presence, does not compare to observable history and the prescriptions in the Jewish texts.

    Your “light” refers only to our destruction.

    Unfortunately, many people have a habit of seeing this only through a modern Darwinian lens – when of course then it doesn’t make sense, and becomes sinister.

    Please, with your disingenuous whining. Jews take an entirely Darwinian approach. Everyone here and with any knowledge of Jews whatsoever knows this to be a fact. Your complaint, above, amounts to “don’t fight our Darwinian approach with your own”. Its the same antinationalist bullshit that Jews the world over engage in as they work to put their cult into practice for the sole ethnonationalist benefit of Jews. Your group tactics are tired.

    You have gone astray somewhere in your thinking here.

    You have.

    We can debate the specific statements on the Zohar and elsewhere, if you wish, which are much more direct than the mythological context of the Tanakh that is admitted by Jews (and observed by everyone else) to be esoteric.

    Taking a supposed statement from Isaiah, which you were too lazy to quote, out of exoteric context from the rest of those books is not a convincing argument. That’s before we get to the esoteric manner in which those books are applied.

    There is a truth that transcends this entire argument, however. That truth is that no one here, and increasingly out in the world, sees any argument or interaction with Jews to be worthwhile because those arguments are always in bad faith on the part of the Jew. As noted by Hitler in Mien Kampf, and as is continuously revealed in the articles and comments sections on this website. As is again revealed in your post. Your observable and historically consistent group tactics are the forever the same, we’ve heard it all before, and we are no longer listening to your deceit.

    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
  117. Anon[951] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    End times will never occur. This Zoroastrian, among others, invention can be psychologically understandable- but such a thing won’t happen, period.

    I dislike these assholes to the extreme. I am not religious. I have been studying them and their wider harvest cult for ten years, putting in close to ten thousand hours.

    What I can tell you is that it is likely going to happen sooner than 200 years from now.

    I have some theories on why and how, which are less certain than its inevitability.

    Where people make their mistake is in the assumption that secularism, science, and technology are a sign that we have exited the religious age.

    The truth is that we have not exited the religious age. The current secular / science age is accounted for as a necessary phase in the religious texts. Its the phase that predates the “end time” or Judgement Day.

    The Semitic texts have defined the West for at least the last 2,000 years. It would be foolish to think that one day they just did not. They absolutely do, to this moment.

    The entire world is an unwilling participant in the theater of the Semitic Harvest Cult. No one can opt out. If you are interested in it, that does not mean that it is not intensely interested in you. It works in 6,000 +1,000 year cycles, the last of which we are approaching the end of its 6,000 year phase.

    Humans did not begin civilization in Sumer or Jericho.

  118. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Mulegino1

    Mulegino1, please see CHABAD Fran‘s comment 185 at http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/on-biblical-celebrities-and-jewish-symbolism/
    “Jesus is a false prophet, the bastard son of a Roman soldier and Mary, no virgin birth.
    Too bad.”

    Please also see: http://judaism.is/the-romans-did-it.html

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  119. Al LIguori says: • Website
    @AaronB

    Catholicism is sadly defunct.

    Wounded by the synagogue of Satan, but not defunct… ever.

    http://judaism.is/new-order-of-pharisees.html

  120. @Ma Laoshi

    Indeed, Karl Marx had it wrong:

    communism = total state control-planning-collectivization of capital = concentration of all decision making of Legislative, Executive and Judicial branches.

    Since Marx was correct about: power is corrupting, his Communist manifesto was a blatently wrong. Did he do it on purpose, following the Protocols of Zion to create the Jewish empire??
    I don’t know. The Jews will know this for certain.

    See also F.A. Hayek – Road to serfdom.

    The Russian and Chinese people have been savagely butchered by their “Great leaders” Mao Tse Tung and Stalin. The USSR NKVD, including many Jewish commies, has committed the most heinous torture crimes on defenceless civilians in human history. So much for Jewish supremacy or Chooseness.

    Individual rights and liberties for all peoples is the way to true grassrootslevel- majority controlled democracy. The US constitution is a good template for the world.

    And yes, Atzmon appeared condescending.

  121. None of the Jews in my social circuit displays any of the horrid symptoms described above.

    Bet they would if a goy were saying any of this about Jews.

  122. @Anon

    One of the greatest responses to the usual Jewish moralizing I’ve ever seen. Exceedingly well done.

    PS- Agreed with mentally deficient Jews revealing the baseness of their superiority complex. Have seen this in Chabad Jews, not exactly selected for high intelligence, or so selectively bred for autism they approach retardation.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  123. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You realize, of course, that you have defined Europe as essentially secular, and as essentially without a tradition.

    but its Greco-Roman heritage of individualism, anthropocentrism, skepticism & creativity

    .

    These forces are all secular forces that dissolve tradition and religion.

    So then you can’t realistically complain about what Europe is today, because it is the things you just defined as essentially European.

    And your nostalgia for racialist nationalism also doesn’t quite fit.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
    , @Pheasant
  124. @Marshall Lentini

    PS- Agreed with mentally deficient Jews revealing the baseness of their superiority complex. Have seen this in Chabad Jews, not exactly selected for high intelligence, or so selectively bred for autism they approach retardation.

    That is true, but they are poor, not in finance, barely earn a living, and show no signs of superiority they are in their own world. I do not see the cause and effect of superiority of deceit in them. They are all dressed up in all black in NYC when it is 105 degrees out, pale as a ghost.
    Who really cares about them, they are not living the high life.
    Just selling some diamonds and cameras.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  125. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    I do not see the cause and effect of superiority of deceit in them.

    As Fran exemplifies, the most self-obsessed tribe is also the tribe least inclined to self-reflection… as if “antisemitism” arose in a vacuum and has nothing to do with Judaism’s Master Race creed or Jewish behavior.

    The inability—or refusal—to admit the cause and effect is enough to discredit the self-vaunted “genius” claimed by the tribe. Promulgating Jewish supremacism, instigating gentile-against-gentile wars, fomenting revolutions, suborning heresies, undermining Christian society, false flags, big lies, inflicting multiculturalism, and perpetrating vice, ritual murder, genocide, slavery and economic crimes against humanity, including usury, fractional reserve banking, swindling, and tax farming have consequences. The perpetual pose of Jews as innocent victims is a fraud. Are innocents among the Jews? Initially, many! But those innocents, in shielding and excusing the guilty, have made themselves accomplices of the guilty, over the millennia earning the expulsion of Jews from hundreds of nations, principalities, and city-states.

  126. @AaronB

    You still haven’t explained this:

    What is the difference between Jewish nationalism (Zionism), which is based on an emotional and secular attachment to a particular ethnic culture, and other expressions of ethnic nationalism, including various forms of European nationalism (English nationalism, German nationalism, French nationalism, etc.) that are also based on an emotional and secular attachment to particular ethnic cultures?

    European nationalism is no more “racialist” than Jewish nationalism. Both European and Jewish nationalism possess a genetic component to a degree, but their main focus is on a commitment to *culture* in all its manifestations as a binding force — customs, traditions, architecture, art, music, literature, language, myths, symbols, values, laws, etc.

    Both European and Jewish nationalism are now under relentless attack by anti-Western forces on the left that seek to utterly eradicate them and replace them with their own narrow chauvinistic cultures, some of them clearly race-based.

    Perhaps “whites” (and that now includes Jews according to “people of color” intersectionalists) should be searching for common ground to mount an effective defense?

    One wonders if Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon have already figured this out — headline — “Tillerson Says He and Mattis Were Cut Out of Foreign Policy Decisions by Kushner and Bannon” (the New York Times today).

    • Replies: @AaronB
  127. AaronB says:
    @Sean McBride

    I actually agree with this.

    Traditional white nationalism, or peoplehood (maybe that’s a better term, as post Enlightenment nationalism has some what spoiled that word) – as in pre-Enlightenment – had an ethnic component, but was primarily based on culture and religion – Christianity, with local cultural and climatic modifications.

    Bardon Kaldian convinced me that Jewish nationalism was somewhat more racially flexible, but I don’t think the difference is substantial.

    And Kaldian is coming out as a supporter of the disintegrating forces of the Enlightenment, so I am not so sure he is a reliable guide for a return to healthy peoplehood, or really understands what it is – the forces he listed as the “essence” of European culture are merely disintegrating anti-cultural forces.

    Both European and Jewish nationalism are now under relentless attack by anti-Western forces on the left that seek to utterly eradicate them and replace them with their own narrow chauvinistic cultures, some of them clearly race-based.

    Absolutely. I would only add, that the alt-right is also trying to replace traditional organic European peoplehood with race based modern nationalism. So it’s not just the Left.

    This is why I consistently describe the Alt-Right as really another branch of the Left. They also distort data to make whites seem inferior to Jews and Asians – a subtle manifestation of Leftist self hate.

    It is a dramatic statement, but there are no non-Leftist whites on the horizon these days. It’s weird.

    So really, both Jews and whites should join forces in opposing modern post-Enlightenment race-based nationalism, and a return to authentic traditional peoplehood – with full recognition of an ethnic component, but with flexibility (such “fuzzy” thinking and categories are anathema to Enlightenment thinkers).

    So what do you say? You can be the nucleus on the white side, and I on the Jewish side 🙂

    Let’s start it!

    And btw, Israelis are much more sympathetic to European peoplehood than you realize.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  128. @AaronB

    “So really, both Jews and whites should join forces in opposing modern post-Enlightenment race-based nationalism, and a return to authentic traditional peoplehood – with full recognition of an ethnic component, but with flexibility (such “fuzzy” thinking and categories are anathema to Enlightenment thinkers).”

    I couldn’t have said it better myself — I agree completely.

    This is the way forward.

    European and Jewish nationalists will never agree on everything, but certainly they can agree to cover one another’s backs in the face of what is a growing fanatical assault by a motley alliance of anti-Western ethnic and religious groups that clearly have no interest in living in peaceful coexistence.

    Emphasizing the cultural aspects of nationalism and group identity, and deemphasizing the racial aspects, makes sense — while acknowledging that there are probably some genetic factors in play in the creation of national cultures. The point is not to make a fetish of genetics and to be flexible about admitting members to groups on the basis of shared values.

  129. Parfois1 says:
    @Brás Cubas

    That sentence is wrong for one simple reason: compassion could not possibly outrank survival instinct as a “precious aspect of humanity”.

    I don’t think you mean the above quote to be an universal self-evident truth. If so, it does done give credit to you as a human being to ignore the fact that human beings, and other lower order animals are capable and do give up their lives so that others can live and prosper. Even ants do that.

    What distinguishes us (or should I say, some of us only) from other animals is that our actions of abnegation and self-sacrifice for others are conscious acts.

    • Replies: @awry
    , @Brás Cubas
  130. Parfois1 says:
    @anon

    And then there are those whom Abraham Lincoln called The Almost-Chosen People.

    Wow! Now I know why and how they (the “chosen” and the “almost chosen”) joined at the top of the pecking order, with the “chosen” ones at the apex of course.

    It all has a saintly odour of puritanism!

  131. @Anon

    I am amazed that so few people understand the Epstein sexual episodes and the ex- Mossad stuff. The intelligence agencies from the Mossad, MI5, and CIA use these places to satisfy the rich and powerful and then blackmail these people. From spies to the richest people in the world end up trading secrets and money for their survival.

    That’s why these people are never really prosecuted. Dershowitz of course just happened to be at Epstein’s island…really.? This is a constant theme of the business of spycraft.

    • Agree: notanon
    • Replies: @S
  132. renfro says:
    @Brás Cubas

    That sentence is wrong for one simple reason: compassion could not possibly outrank survival instinct as a “precious aspect of humanity”.

    Perhaps you mistakenly think your life trumps everything else .
    Many people have risked death and even died to save another….many have even died for a ideal.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  133. renfro says:
    @Sean McBride

    European and Jewish nationalists will never agree on everything, but certainly they can agree to cover one another’s backs in the face of what is a growing fanatical assault by a motley alliance of anti-Western ethnic and religious groups that clearly have no interest in living in peaceful coexistence

    LOL…..well if you aren’t a Jew …. maybe you are just a fool.

    Go ahead little frog, give the Jew scorpion a ride across the river on your back.

    • Agree: L.K
  134. renfro says:

    Imo it is not Jewish genes or DNA or etc…..its Jewish “culture”…..the getting of something at the expense of others and money worship…….some Jews reject that culture, others don’t.

    6180 – NCJRS Abstract – National Criminal Justice Reference Service
    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=6180
    HOWEVER, THE JEWISH CRIME RATE TENDS TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT OF NONJEWS AND OTHER RELIGIOUS GROUPS FOR WHITE-COLLAR …

    Criminality Among Jews: An Overview – Jstor
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/42909635
    by M Amir – ‎1971 – ‎Cited by 3 – ‎Related article sever, the Jewish crime rate tends to be higher than that of non-Jews and other religious groups for white-collar offenses, that is, com- mercial or commercially …*Also where special laws have been enacted for religious groups the crime rate among Jews tended to be even higher. *Jews are found to be significantly over-represented in both fraudulent and genuine bankruptcies (almost ten times the rate of non-Jews).

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8667998
    The study examined whether the percentage of religious criminals was lower than the percentage of religious people in the population and whether the types of crimes committed by religious prison inmates differed from those committed by non-religious inmates. The 193 religious criminals studied consisted of all the religious male prisoners the in men’s prisons in Israel. The percentage of religious criminals (3.7%) was found to be far below the percentage of religious people in the population (about 20%). In general both groups committed the same types of crimes. The exceptions were that religious criminals committed more sex and white-collar crimes and less security crimes than non-religious criminals.
    PMID:
    8667998

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  135. Parfois1 says:
    @PPB

    I think you miss the point of the whole discussion and it is trite to say that some Jews (and let’s stretch the imagination to the inconceivable, even all Jews individually) are or project the traits of “normalcy” in a cultural context.

    What we refer to the “Jews” here is the collective Jew. Even the worst psychopath individually may show compassion, but as an aggregation of cultural, ethnic, religious and other self-differentiated characteristics, their individual traits are suppressed if they dissent from the collective purpose.

    Think: A Jewish sharpshooter in uniform aims at a Palestinian child. As an individual he may not pull the trigger, but as a Jewish soldier he’s more likely to do so.

    Reminds me of that girl Rachel.Corrie who faced the Israeli tank and was crushed.

  136. @Sean McBride

    Yes, the phenomenon of the “self-fulfilling prophesy”. The danger is however that immoral people may use it for destructive ends. Then you get the phenomenon of “chosen criminals”, “chosen Mafias, or even “chosen rogue state” (Israel).

  137. Parfois1 says:
    @Al Liguori

    All these disguises of chameleon Judaism are quintessentially talmudic

    Indeed, that chameleonic characteristic – the capacity of integration into the host body while remaining an outsider – is the defining distinction of the Jew. It may be the work of the group survival mechanism or simple ploy to acquire double identity, the examples you gave area good illustration of that particularity of Jewry, obviously facilitated by the fact they usually can pass off as members of the host European ethny.

    Recently I met a group of Australian cyclists touring in Europe and was introduced to one of them. I noticed his Slavic features and was rude enough to ask if he was Russian (he was) we talked about Russian literature (his favourite was Pushkin) and I asked about that je-ne-sais-quoi of the “Russian soul” and affection for Motherland. Later I was told by the organizer of the tour he was a Russian Jew, and very rich.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  138. @AaronB

    “…The European nations pillaged half the world, but they blame the Jews…”

    Not entirely without reason. Jews heartily participated in it. Financing the Dutch East Indies Company, major role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, opium trade and opium wars on China, Boer wars in South Africa…

    As for prophet Isaiah’s pious depiction of Jews as “healing scapegoats”, read chapters 60 and 61 where he predicts that the kings of the world will bring all their wealth to Jerusalem and serve the Jews as their slaves. How “spiritual”.

  139. Anonymous [AKA "Shimshom"] says:

    A Chosen People is synonymous with a Master Race

  140. @anon

    “…By suffering for their wickedness, Jews heal them…”

    That well illustrates the narcissistic masochism of the messiah complex.

    Yes, when they win, they see that as a proof of their “chosenness”. But when they lose, they see that too as a proof of their “chosenness”, but now as “healing scapegoats”. Pretty incurable delusion!

  141. @AaronB

    “…As for the point about souls, what was the point of being a light unto the nations if gentiles have no souls..?”

    You ask that question to the Cabbalists and Chabad, for it is they who say that Gentiles have only animal souls.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Anon
  142. @David

    I am interested in the subject of extradition because it seems wrong to me to put anything ahead of fair trials for the accused and it stands to reason that extraditing some poor young man, typically, to a country where he doesn’t know the lawyers or fully understand the culture or language but is banged up away from family and friends awaiting, in the US, usually, a plea deal extorted by overcharging is usually wrong. I looked up the countries which don’t extradite their own citizens and I did *not* find Israel on that list. Indeed I believe a former Orthodox headmistress accused of abusing her adolescent charges is likely to be extradited back to Melbourne.

  143. Antares says:
    @Sean McBride

    “European and Jewish nationalists will never agree on everything, but certainly they can agree to cover one another’s backs in the face of what is a growing fanatical assault by a motley alliance of anti-Western ethnic and religious groups that clearly have no interest in living in peaceful coexistence.”

    I would not have myself played out against moslims that easily.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  144. notanon says:

    i think you can see something of the same mechanic in play with these big tech people secretly filmed discussing how they’re going to rig elections – in a movie you’d expect characters doing this to be acted as shifty and scheming but these people aren’t like that at all – they’re bright-eyed religious zealots.

    a sense of chosen-ness can change a person’s moral calculus.

  145. Anonymous[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    As a run of the mill modern atheist who gets puzzled by finding that intelligent successful people can believe in an Abrahamic God of some description I wonder whether you can explain your conversion or reconversion. And, specifically, what is this Judaism you find merit in? Clearly by modern standards Moses was a genocidal psychopath and tyrant and these UR threads are full of people quoting, mostly accurately, hateful stuff from the Talmud and many rabbis, including even Maimonides. In the absence of my favourite (Reform) rabbi friend, I ask for enlightenment on the subject.

  146. @Parfois1

    Contrast and compare: a very rich young man or woman, expensively and highly educated, well travelled, who joins the local Republican or Democrat organisation as part of working his/her way into election as a legislator, and maybe Governor or higher. His perfect manners, clothes and good humour never betray the fact that he/she is conscious of being upper class and intending to remain upper class and marry a suitably acculturated spouse. Different from the Jews?

    • Replies: @UncommonGround
  147. notanon says:

    moral algebra

    say you have three brothers sitting by a road watching a stranger with new shoes walk by and deciding whether or not to kill him for his shoes.

    say the equation is:

    relatedness*benefit (kin) vs relatedness*cost (not-kin)

    and say both the relatedness score and cost-benefit are on a scale of 1-10

    then say the brothers relatedness score is 10 and the benefit to them of the stranger’s shoes is 1 while the stranger’s relatedness score to them is 1 and the cost to him of being murdered for his shoes is 10

    the brother’s calculation would then be:

    10 (own relatedness) * 1 (benefit to them) vs 1 (stranger relatedness) * 10 (cost to him)

    which gives a score of 10 vs 10 so maybe the brother’s flip a coin?

    now take the same situation where instead of 10/1 the brother’s relatedness scores are 8/3 then the calc comes out as 8 vs 30 i.e. no chance of them killing the stranger for his shoes.

    if correct then anything that modifies a group’s relatedness scores will effect this behavior and i think both genetic (in breeding) and cultural factors influence it (the most obvious cultural factor in this context being wartime vs peacetime).

    #

    what this would mean is an average 10/1 or 9/2 sub-population among an average 8/3 population would be noticeably over-represented in certain types of behavior even if it was a minority.

  148. Anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    ‘A lot of the organ harvesting stories are false’

    These articles started on the failed messiah blog (before it was taken over) dedicated to muckracking in the ultra-orthodox community and I believe a high percentage of them are true as I watched the news articles unfold in real time.

  149. Anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    ‘Who cares about this French theft case, ‘

    The French maybe? The people who feel violated by a conman maybe?

  150. Anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    ‘You can never be as good as Miles Davis or as good as even Chikli was a criminal ‘

    Yeah Gilad you shit-bag!

    lol

    Go on Fran you might be having some kind of meltdown but it sure is fun to watch.

  151. Anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    ‘It was a lie and has been refuted many times that Jews were not central involved in the African slave trade either as traders or owners.
    More slander’

    But the nation of Islam quoted Jewish historians boasting about thier role in the slave trade. The entire book the secret relationship between blacks and Jews is basically based upon the work of Jewish historians.

  152. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymouser"] says:
    @anon

    Ooh I see she did not reply.

  153. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymouser"] says:
    @Al Liguori

    Brutal.

    Let’s see if she replies.

  154. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymouser"] says:
    @AaronB

    ‘Remember the beautiful words of the Prophet Isaiah – Jews are meant to be scapegoats, Jews are meant to be distractions for the wickedness of other nations – and through our suffering, they are healed.

    We heal them by taking on ourselves the burden of their wickedness.’

    Get yourself a psychiatrist and do it quickly.

    Still though I am glad to see you have no ill feelings about anti-semitism as it seems to be your role in life.

  155. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymous212"] says:
    @Colin Wright

    ‘but I think I’d really rather be in an eighteenth century Paris coffee shop than facing a sixteenth-century Spanish inquisitor’

    You would rather face the potential of revolutionary guiilotines and rough justice than the gentle courts of the inquisition (and do not get me started with the propaganda common criminals used to blaspheme to make it in to inquisition jails so much more comfortable were they).

  156. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Seriously who has hacked your account?

  157. @alexander

    How is it possible that almost the entire population of the United States knows nothing about it ?

    Because those with a stranglehold on the nation’s discourse don’t have their best interests at heart.

  158. tonyr says:

    They have destroyed my country and for that I will never forgive them,never ever,that’s a promise.

    “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.” ~Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/t61NUbBLvbQN/

  159. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @AaronB

    ‘Catholicism is sadly defunct’

    Which I am sure you are very upset about.

    Still glad to know eastern orthodoxy has a load of infiltrators coming.

  160. alexander says:
    @Al Liguori

    Al,

    The article states, unequivocally, that SEVENTY EIGHT PERCENT of all “slave owners” were Jewish, or of Jewish ancestry.

    This can’t be right.

  161. Powerful article, Gilad. But I find “chosenness” frustratingly short. There are different ways to consider yourself chosen, and, although it can be argued that all are pathological, they are not all equivalent. The question is: What does chosenness actually mean for the Jews? Or, perhaps, what does it conceal? We are talking here of “chosenness as defined in the Hebrew Bible”, that is, chosenness to cheat, vampirize, exterminate, use as sex-slaves, cut in pieces and burn in ovens, etc. all non-Jewish people. The duty to hate unconditionnally, is the essence of the biblical covenant. Another aspect of the question is: “chosen by who?” The Jews are chosen by their own tribal god who somehow managed to convince them that he is God. Thinking about it, didn’t Chikli actually learn his trick from Yahweh himself? If Jews knew, and Gentiles knew, that Jews had been chosen by an evil and deceptive demon impersonating God, we would be on the right track (which, of course, Christians resist). The Jewish Question is the Biblical Question. I would love to read you on that.
    By the way, how is the translation of your book in French going? I’m surprised that it is not out yet.

  162. The zionists consider we goyim as cattle, and so since they control the central banks of the world and thus our currency and thus our lives, they have free rein to ride rough shod over we goyim and they have appointed themselves as the most intelligent animals in this zoo !

    Read The Protocols of Zion to see the zionist game plan for their satanic zionist NWO!

  163. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @AaronB

    Bardon Kaldian

    Nostalgia for racist nationalism?

  164. Mr. Wales says:

    Being “chosen” is part of Jewish mythology. It allows believers to see themselves as separate and distinct. Jews practice propaganda on their own and end up believing it themselves much like Josef Goebbels started to believe his own Nazi propaganda.

    If you are born to this Earth you were chosen to live. How you live will be determined by a variety of factors many of which are outside of your control. Life can be cruel. Mythology lifts us above the cruelty and unpredictability by offering us an exaggerated sense of mission and hope. It’s a starting point of organization and allows a springboard for future action.

    So, we have warlike people and those who wouldn’t crush an insect. Who will win?

    I don’t know.

    • Agree: TKK
  165. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @Sean McBride

    ‘So really, both Jews and whites should join forces in opposing modern post-Enlightenment race-based nationalism, and a return to authentic traditional peoplehood – with full recognition of an ethnic component, but with flexibility (such “fuzzy” thinking and categories are anathema to Enlightenment thinkers).”

    I couldn’t have said it better myself — I agree completely.

    This is the way forward.’

    I know what is going on here. A few years ago such a definition would have been considered fascist but now that the overton window has shifted such a conception is justified just so long as it denies race which is the core of the issue. Jews feel themselves to be different genetically so as long as the White ingroup is not defined through something quantifiable such as genes/percent genetically related they will promote whatever is necessary to avoid recognition of that conclusion.

    The parasite strikes again

    We have Bardon Kalidan and AaronB as well as Sean Mcbride admitting religion is ok so long as Whites do not define themselves racially. Religious identity is open to subversion racial identity is not.

    Makes a person wonder.

  166. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @renfro

    ‘its Jewish “culture’

    Remind me again where did Jewish culture come form?

  167. @Wizard of Oz

    His perfect manners, clothes and good humour never betray the fact that he/she is conscious of being upper class and intending to remain upper class and marry a suitably acculturated spouse. Different from the Jews?

    Of course there is a fundamental difference. In one case the division is a class division in the other case it’s an ethnic division and people in both cases may behave and think very differently.

  168. AaronB says:
    @Sean McBride

    Agreed!

    The major thing, in my view, is to get past Enlightenment thinking – not to ditch reason, which is very useful, but to integrate it into the whole human being (imagination, emotion, etc), and to reconnect to the emotions, the imagination – in short, the organic.

    Reason has been the true secret religion of whites since the 18th century.

    Anyways good luck to both of us!

  169. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean McBride

    You thoughts coincide with mine to some extent. And, I speak from a non-white point of view, who has only achieved modest success, but with no great regrets.

    I have also made the point that western civilisation has attained much success in worldly pursuits, primarily because of an innate feeling, which I think borders on “self-worship” (i.e. to the heights of self-esteem). This must have been the reason in their quest for world hegemony, for millennia. A “nice” side effect of that quest is the plunder of wealth, which should have definitely aided in their civilisational success.

    Others who have achieved much also seem to have a very high self-esteem about themselves (e.g. the orientals). I personally believe most men can achieve much simply by believing in themselves, and working hard for that success, if they get the right opportunities (good education, an unprejudiced shot at good jobs or building businesses, etc.)

    So, all this seems to point to the validity of the “sense of chosenness,” which you alluded to. The greater that sense, perhaps to the point of “messianic mission,” the greater the achievements. Again, the western civilisation seems to prove these points.

    That said, as a true monotheist who believes that worldly life is just a short sojourn, I firmly believe that success in this world, and success in the Hereafter, are two very different things.

    Western civilisational success is something to be in awe, for sure, but I also know that their pagan polytheist mangods-worship will land them in the eternal Fire. It will certainly not be worth it.

    • Agree: Sean McBride
    • Replies: @Pheasant
  170. Anon[575] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    It was a lie and has been refuted many times that Jews were not central involved in the African slave trade either as traders or owners.
    More slander.

    Consistent Jewish stonewall denial of the continued massive allegations of crimes against them that has occurred over a long history by wholly disparate peoples has become more or less evidence of guilt in itself.

    Like the psychopathic petty criminal who denies everything in spite of continuously being caught on tape robbing and committing other crimes, not only does his flat denial lose all credibility but it becomes further evidence of his psychopathy and depravity.

    In the real world, there are grey areas wherein groups share certain blame, are sometimes fully to blame, and sometimes innocent over a long period of accusations.

    Only in the Jewish mind and religion does it make sense that Jews are so consistently innocent over a long period of accusations.

    Only in Jew world, does Jewish protest against guilt count as the only “refutation” required to acquit them.

    Unfortunately for the Jews, in the real world those perceptions and actions eventually and perhaps rightly read as total guilt.

    These are the same Jews that are happy to deny their ideological group’s organized role in the slave trade as a specifically defined, high tier merchant class (at that time and now), and as a substitute are willing to blame the ill defined and politically fractured “White” group for slavery no matter what an individual’s actual heritage and associations. This is the change in perspective that the socially deluded Jews are whining about maintaining when they deny their role. In essence, its a whine to maintain blame for the “White” group. As can be observed in most ADL or other organized Jewish responses to the blame assigned to them for the slave trade.

    Jews would also have us ignore their so called “religious” texts, which flat out cast non-Jews as animals and make provisions for keeping slaves. Provisions that the major religion of the so called greater “White” group do not share. None of it adds up. Deny all that you like. The motive is in your texts, the political, financial, and cultural vehicles existed for your ideological group to be the central player in the slave trade at the time, and you have been formally accused with evidence. You have little credible refutation on which to stand.

    More pertinently, the non-Jewish tolerance has waned in regard to your group’s denials in the face of all evidence across multiple grand crimes.

  171. geokat62 says:
    @Al Liguori

    At the height of American slavery, 78% of slave owners were ethnic Jews.

    This is not a correct statement. It implies that of all the slave owners in America, 78% were Jews, which makes no sense given their extremely small numbers. The correct statement is 75% of Jewish households owned slaves in 1830s America, which is twice as many relative to white households.

    Here’s a previous comment of mine:

    According to the work of Jewish demographers, Lee Soltow and Ira Rosenwaike, twice as many Jewish households (75%) owned slaves compared to white housteholds (36%) in the 1830s:

    Rosenwaike, whose Jewish population studies have been published in the major Jewish historical journals, has recently analyzed the 1971 population studies of Lee Soltow. Rosenwaike does not dispute Soltow’s startling findings:

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [White] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  172. Anon[575] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean McBride

    Emphasizing the cultural aspects of nationalism and group identity, and deemphasizing the racial aspects, makes sense — while acknowledging that there are probably some genetic factors in play in the creation of national cultures. The point is not to make a fetish of genetics and to be flexible about admitting members to groups on the basis of shared values.

    Like all other ideological weaknesses are exploited by enemies toward group destruction, your innate impulse toward cooperation that has led you to suggest tolerance has long ago been exploited toward our destruction.

    Your enemies do not feel the same way nor get the warm “I’m a good boy” feeling at the prospect of such (supposed) mutual tolerance. They mock your willingness to tolerate the other due to an exploitation of your (originally) in-group cooperation impulse, see you as weak for falling for it because of your animal like (in their eyes) feelings, and will exploit it until you and yours are not even a memory.

    All you are required to do is read and understand their books to understand what I have stated. You are to be destroyed for your land and “impurity”. Full stop. Gaining their approval on that path is not worth the consequences.

    They share zero meaningful values with you. They have a very specific in-group goal in mind that requires your elimination or enslavement to bring to fruition. That goal entails taking from you what you seem to think will be mutually shared between you and them.

    Think about what you have offered. You have offered your people’s land in Europe (at the least) to hostile tribes. Why?? Have they offered you theirs? Absolutely not, as the notion is rightly seen as incomparably stupid by them. So why do they want to exist in your lands? See the prior paragraph. Their pestering should never be enough to give up the fight for their short term approval.

  173. utu says:
    @Sean McBride

    What if there is in fact a genetic basis for a sense of chosenness among human beings?

    That would be a very bad news for Jews. The Jewish problem would be reduced to problem of biology. The approach that Jews can be turned into humans by preaching and socialization would be futile. Hitler would be justified that biological problems require biological solutions.

  174. onebornfree says: • Website

    Gilad Atzmon says: “.. I accept that such a shift can not occur in the form of a collective or political movement. “

    This just in:

    there never have been, and never will be, any political solutions to any perceived social problems, including fraud/dishonesty.

    See: “Why Government Doesn’t Work”:
    https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn’t_Work

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  175. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curmudgeon

    my theory that Islam is Reform Judaism

    Well, your theory is deceitful nonsense, simply to malign Islam by conflating it with Judaism, and perhaps make Christianity sound more like “the truth.” Whatever your intention, it is pathetic in its silliness.

    Judaism, with its current pagan “in-his-image” concept of God (previously calf-worship, etc.), is also just another form of Paganism… or more specifically, Monotheistic Paganism, which is about at the same oxymoronic level as Monotheistic Trinitarianism\Trimurthism, of two other popular faiths.

    With this in mind, I would say that Christianity is indeed Reform Judaism. All the various Christian scriptures almost deifying the Joos, seems to prove that point.

    Islam, in stark contrast, is crystal clear True Monotheism, a religion which began with Adam(pbuh), and which continues to flourish till the present… by the will of the Almighty One.

    No theist on earth can logically dispute the following verses, without first shooting themselves in their spiritual foot-steps, in various ways;

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” : Holy Quran 112

  176. @onebornfree

    Why Government Doesn’t Work

    Government works nearly perfectly; but not as advertised.

    Cui bono?

  177. S says:
    @niteranger

    I am amazed that so few people understand the Epstein sexual episodes and the ex- Mossad stuff. The intelligence agencies from the Mossad, MI5, and CIA use these places to satisfy the rich and powerful and then blackmail these people.

    As it’s so outside of most people’s personal life experience something like that at first sounds crazy. Then one finds as part of the open historical record that the married US President Woodrow Wilson had been blackmailed by the existence of some photos of himself with a woman he was having an affair with.

    Separately from that I’d read a biography of a Mafioso who’d invited the womanizer (and married) JFK to visit Havana, Cuba during the 1950’s and had treated the then senator (and future president) to a ‘threesome’ with two of his Cuban prostitutes. The mafia guy’s only regret afterward was that he hadn’t secretly filmed the entire thing so that he might of blackmailed Kennedy later on.

    In the late 1980’s there was an alleged ‘Franklin Prostition Ring’ (see links below) which supposedly was providing child prostitutes to high level US politicians who in turn were then being blackmailed by the existence of surreptitious recordings having been made of these incidents by US intelligence agencies.

    The below newspaper article explains what ultimately happened to the lead investigator of the case. Gary Caradori had been hired by the Nebraska state legislature to find out what had actually transpired regarding the alleged Nebraska based ring.

    Needless to say his investigation was unexpectedly ‘cut short’.


    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Gary_Caradori

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Alisha_Owen

    • Replies: @niteranger
  178. … it is the fact that Chikli ’s [massive] scam was dependent upon the humane compassion of others.

    Chikli’s no doubt a student of how well “the” holocaust has worked and it has more to do with being shameless than genius. There’s even a word for it, “chtuzpah,” and any moron can, and obviously many do, employ it.

    Note to my fellow dumb goyim: Don’t be suckers.

  179. Anon[260] • Disclaimer says:

    No theist on earth can logically dispute the following verses, without first shooting themselves in their spiritual foot-steps, in various ways;

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” : Holy Quran 112

    For fuck’s sake you retarded monkey. You’ve said nothing and proven nothing. Your statement is circularly referential to the verse.

    Besides that, the verse is wholly generic / lacking in substantive content. Like all monkeys, you like to ascribe weight to florid language however empty. That’s why you are such easy puppets of cunning people.

    It is clear you know zero about theology, mythology, or its historical roots. Let alone the roots of the Islamist pseudo-religion that is really a sub cult and vague carbon copy of Judaism and that was specifically crafted for the temperament and habits of brown desert dwellers. Because heaven forbid those brown people have to create anything original. The world might die in wait while holding its breath.

    Think about that while contemplating your Ilu (allah), which is a historic generic name for any number of Semitic pagan gods.

    Islam, in stark contrast, is crystal clear True Monotheism,

    My favorite consistent crutch and rhetorical failure of all of the Islamic new try-hards here, whose gears I can hear burning as they try and fail to keep up with the conversations (see your above quote), is when they appeal to some vague value of “monotheism” that we are supposed to understand as all-important and that they clearly do not understand themselves in the least. The meaning is found buried deep in Judaism,and if you understood it you wouldn’t be appealing to it as a value. You guys are like gheto rappers quoting Shakespeare.

  180. An absence of empathy. Well that’s a sociopath. One day the physiological roots of that mental condition will be mapped to its gene origins. And it wouldn’t surprise me if it were found to be concentrated in certain populations.

    Imagine Larry Silverstein sitting on his couch, sipping tea while watching those buildings turn into dust.

  181. @Sean McBride

    Maybe Jews should all ingather somewhere and be superior together in an all Jewish state. I support that.

  182. Anon[260] • Disclaimer says:

    No theist on earth can logically dispute the following verses, without first shooting themselves in their spiritual foot-steps, in various ways;

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” : Holy Quran 112

    Your statement relies on the (false) shared assumption that the Semitic cults are legitimate spirituality / religions, and not political schemes aiming for a political result to culminate with the man made apocalypse and mass ritual harvest genocide. You are wrong.

    These cults are not religions, but they are the political schemes.

    No one is going to “shoot themselves in the spiritual foot” disputing pseudo-religious florid language that is promoting a political scheme that has always aimed to stamp out all other religions (a marker of a political scheme that despises political competition).

    Arab and Turkish Islamists are the perfect aggressive soldiers for these schemes do to their lower IQ and resultant lower critical ability, their higher hormonal and thus rage output, and their willingness to uncritically quote bullshit that they do not understand as you do here.

    See the quote below, with your willingness to put your superstitious Jew imparted beliefs in mythology above actual human prosperity and technology (civlization). Due to what? A comparison with other Jew imparted beliefs? The alternate form being you people living like Barbarians with short lives, with Barbaric acts and values, in the desert. You are not smart people.

    Western civilisational success is something to be in awe, for sure, but I also know that their pagan polytheist mangods-worship will land them in the eternal Fire. It will certainly not be worth it.

  183. AaronB says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    I haven’t actually been able to independently verify this. Israel Shahak seems to be the sole source for this, and he claims he is basing it on an untranslated Hebrew book.

    In any event, this doctrine is supposedly found only in the Kabbalah – which has a somewhat ambiguous status among Jews.

    Only some ideas from the Kabbalah have influenced mainstream Judaism, and it certainly isn’t a main area of study, although it’s gaining in popularity. What’s more, there are several different schools of interpretation, and some orthodox Jews completely reject the Kabbalah.

    Wikipedia’s Kabbalah page seems to have a nuanced and realistic discussion of this issue – apparently, there are some extremist Rabbis who do believe that non Jews have animal souls, but the majority absolutely do not.

    A more widespread opinion is that Jews and non Jews have souls with different tasks, like men and women, etc, with different specific tasks in elevating Gods creation, but both are equally valuable. But even this is not a mainstream view.

    Most Kabbalists apparently believe in reincarnation, and that souls can be reborn in a Jewish or non Jewish body.

    Anyways, I recommend you read the Wikipedia page if you’re interested.

    In my opinion, it is completely unsurprising that there will be extremist Jews with odious interpretations. Religions are hardly immune to this problem, and it’s an obvious fact that any system of thought can be perverted and reinterpreted to fit ones preoccupations.

    In light of the fact that only one parent need be Jewish, that converts are accepted, that King David has non Jewish ancestry, and thus the Jewish Messiah – the seminal figure in Judaism – has non Jewish ancestry, as well as the fact that some of the most respected figures in Judaism like Rabbi Akiva, Onkelos, etc, are non Jewish, the doctrine is clearly in contradiction to the major tenets of Judaism, as well as its practice and spirit.

    Unfortunately, any large body of thought – even secular ones like the Enlightenment – will have its abuses and perversions.

    If one wished, one could easily draw up a list of horrific sayings and actions by Christians and Popes down the centuries, but that would be tendentious, of course, and would only be of interest to prejudiced parties.

  184. Anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “…As for the point about souls, what was the point of being a light unto the nations if gentiles have no souls..?”

    You ask that question to the Cabbalists and Chabad, for it is they who say that Gentiles have only animal souls.

    Respectfully, that is not true. First, hypothetically assuming that Kabbalah is not mainstream Jewish belief and not part of the Torah (it is), the fact is that the Tanakh (Old Testament) that is central to all Judaism is encoded in metaphor (to start). Most mentions of animals in the Tanakh are coded words for non-Jewish peoples. That’s mainstream Rabbinic knowledge.

    When you get time, go and re-read the Old Testament with that in mind.

    As an aside, only a very small portion of Orthodox Jews are specifically Kabbalah-skeptical these days. And their protests are practice oriented, in that they critique Hasidic emotional expression as a means of Jewish practice, not theology related. The Kabbalah is very much mainstream Judaism.

  185. @S

    Good info! This stuff is as old as bible if not more. What’s really funny is sometime they get their own. Elliot Spitzer kept going after Wall Street and friends so the Mossad and the Jews set him up with the hooker and ended his career. No one comes after the “money crowd.”

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  186. @Antares

    “I would not have myself played out against moslims that easily.”

    The intersectionalist left is not merely attempting to use the world’s nearly two billion Muslims to attack and take down “whites” (including Israelis and Jews, as well as most Americans and Europeans) — it is also using as part of its grand anti-Western alliance “people of color” — that is, all non-whites. That would include the world’s Arabs, Asians, blacks, Indians and many other non-white groups.

    This is, of course, a entirely racist ideological construct, but there it is — increasingly leftists and progressives have come to embrace this agenda, which is a fusion of Marxism and extreme racism.

    How should white classical liberals, who despise racism, respond to naked threats to eradicate them as a race and as a culture? Do you really think that focusing one’s attention on attacking Israelis and Jews is going to solve the problem?

    Should traditional American and European cultures, and Israelis, just roll over and disappear? Should they assume that the intersectionalist left is actually going to create a better world by eradicating Western culture and replacing it with a confused mix of Third World cultures, which are themselves in a state of perpetual vicious conflict with one another?

    Or should those who care about Western culture take a stand in defense of that culture?

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Bardon Kaldian
  187. Anon[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    If this was the nature of the world, wouldn’t it make sense that human beings would have evolved to take pleasure and delight in ceaseless strife?

    Wouldn’t we simply be in our “element”, like lions, and not even be able to imagine anything else – much less desire it?

    Evolution then should have designed us to be perfectly adapted to this condition of endless strife.

    Indeed, Nietzsche spent his life trying to convince everyone that they should take delight in this endless strife – and ended up insane.

    Yet it seems every human society on earth felt that “something is wrong” with the world as we know it.

    What’s more, it goes beyond just conflict and strife.

    Humans yearn for a world of magic and wonder and adventure, and are not satisfied with prosaic ordinary life.

    It seems Evolution has made a huge mistake in creating creatures that are completely unable to be satisfied with their existence.

    Or, we are not made for this world 🙂

    All of our desires have something to satisfy them here – food, sex, etc. We are not aware of any desire without something to satisfy it in this world.

    Except for one longing that nothing in this world can satisfy.

    Typical Jewish superficial psychological masturbation to justify their self interested political machinations. Your affected preacher tone and style makes it more creepy.

    That “something is wrong” is projection. The “almost every human society” is crude conjecture failing as persuasion.

    The only thing that I perceive as wrong are the catastrophic the effects of the Jewish cults that are a psychopathic remnant from antiquity and that currently define the West and its ills.

    Imagine the lack of strife and the gain in technological progress without the Jewish cults and their endless wars and ethnic cleansings? Imagine what Europe would have been, alone, without the Thirty Years War and the Semitic Cult motivated strife and attempts at conquest that preceeded it. 8 million Europeans dead as a result, which at the time was a much larger population percentage.

    Only a lazy, entitled desert dweller could imagine that the world is “wrong” and needs to be destroyed because he works too much or doesn’t have all of the resources that he feels entitled to. You people are psychopaths. That view certainly doesn’t define the minds of the more pragmatic peoples that had to survive in colder weather, with less resources and luxury than the Semites whose reward is now the worst genetics in the West except for those that you can take from us. Procreating with Neanderthals amplified that dysgenic effect, which you people pass onto us like an STD that can’t be cured over any generation.

    Humans yearn for a world of magic and wonder and adventure, and are not satisfied with prosaic ordinary life.

    It seems Evolution has made a huge mistake in creating creatures that are completely unable to be satisfied with their existence.

    Or, we are not made for this world

    Except for one longing that nothing in this world can satisfy.

    None of your juvenile fantasy nor unpragmatic runaway imagination justifies the Jewish religion and the insane burden with which it taxes the world.

    Sorry that you were born at a time when the exploration was finished. Your reward is a much longer, more comfortable life. Sorry that you aren’t wealthy and have to go to work. Consider working hard so that your kids can enjoy a better life than you had. Do the work, don’t scheme to destroy with your group’s apocalyptic plans that you are not apprising your readers of. Read an adventure book to sate your wanderlust and then get to work in the just society that we built and should be maintained with much stricter morality and borders than the Jewish destroyer group, with overactive imaginations bent on destruction, wishes it to have.

  188. It is interesting that both The Nazi Aryans and the Zionist Jews claim racial supremacism

  189. @AaronB

    Evolution then should have designed us to be perfectly adapted to this condition of endless strife.

    Scratch an evolutionist and reveal the teleological truth of what they really think which is that they do not have faith in evolution with its random this and genetic mutations that.

    No, rather they think that evolution had some purpose in mind

    • Agree: Al Liguori
  190. aandrews says:

    Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson Testified That Jew Jared Kushner Behaves Like a Sneaking Rat Kike

    Andrew Anglin
    Daily Stormer
    June 27, 2019

    In one instance, Tillerson said he learned that Kushner was meeting with Mexico’s foreign secretary because he happened to be in the same Washington restaurant while the two men hashed out a “fairly comprehensive plan of action” that Tillerson didn’t know about.

    “The owner of the restaurant . . . came around and said, “Oh, Mr. Secretary, you might be interested to know the foreign secretary of Mexico is seated at a table near the back in case you want to go by and say hello to him,” Tillerson said. “And so I did.”

    Tillerson said he saw the “color go out of the face” of the foreign secretary as he walked into the room. “I said: Welcome to Washington. . . . Give me a call next time you’re coming to town.”

    What Tillerson doesn’t seem to understand is that Jared Kushner is not an employee of the President or the US government.

    He reports directly to the big boss.

    Tillerson was also asked about the report that he called Trump a “moron,” and didn’t answer.

    We need to consider the possibility that Trump is a moron and got elected by accident.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  191. Zumbuddi says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Gilad’s main point is the utter absence of empathy, the complete lack of respect for the rights, property and dignity of the Other– in fact, cynically exploiting the empathy of the victim/ mark.

    & then along comes iron-bender Taubman: “Why bother caring about the victims? ”

    Q.E.D.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  192. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @geokat62

    Agreed that the meme is ambiguous and poorly sourced, so I have removed it from http://judaism.is/who-is-human.html#blacks

  193. @Zumbuddi

    I do not who is those quotes. I never said that, my only point being that there are far more tragic stories committed by non Jewish people. Like the labor conditions of immigrants in Arab countries which has many more victims, and is occurring right now. No Jews involved, he is not interested. He is a fake a phony. I don’t care about the victims? so cheap no?
    Believe me Gilad could care less about those victims. His only point was that they were perpetrated by Jews.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  194. Robjil says:
    @aandrews

    Kushner was probably telling this secretary of Mexico to keep quiet about the 10/10/01 incident in Mexico city.

    http://911blogger.com/node/14304

    ” I focus on 10-10-01 …. 2 Israeli operatives were arrested having breached Mexican Parliament security with all the trappings of a false-flag in progress- glocks, grenades, explosives and 2 fake Pakistani passports. After hitting the front page of many Mexican newspapers and CNN for a moment, it quickly dropped off the radar as the operatives were quietly sent back to Israel.”

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Al Liguori
  195. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    You are in CHABAD and you deny ever hearing CHABAD’s supremacist and misanthropic teaching.

    That makes you, not Gilad, the deceiver.

  196. Zumbuddi says:
    @Robjil

    Totally off topic–

    Israel sent 1000 OFF troops to Homduras.

    Shortly after that hit the news, the migrant flood into US soared.

    Are Israelis keeping the peace in Honduras, or organizing migrant caravans?

    Are Jews emptyi.g Honduras of Hondurans to make space for Jews– Palestine, Central America?

    And US taxpayers are both absorbing the DPs (Displaced Persons) and paying for their toothpaste: Y’all know that the only bills that get thru Congress fast & with large majorities are bills from which Jews benefit.

    Jared Kushner Deal of the century is undergoing beta testing in Honduras.

    btw Bernard Marcus ‘s Home Depot takes special care of S American migrants, w/ training programs, special credit programs and discounts.
    Are all those Latino speaking “painters” and “handymen” in Home Depot parking lots every morning — are they legal?

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Robjil
  197. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Robjil

    Here’s a typical BIG JEWISH LIE from Medved at that link, stacking lie upon lie upon lie, just as Fran does here:

    Again, if you want to talk to me about Jewish terrorists, there is one Jewish terrorist that I know of. His name was Baruch Goldstein. And I think it was about 12 years ago, he went into a mosque, and he went crazy and he started firing. He was condemned, not only by the Israeli government, but by every religious authority in Judaism. There is no one who spoke on behalf of someone going in and firing and killing people. And he, of course, died at the time.

    “Condemned by the Israeli government”? No.

    Prime Minister Yitshak Rabin gave permission for a memorial to honor Goldstein (photo below). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein and http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/25/newsid_4167000/4167929.stm

    Epitaph on the mass murderer’s government-approved monument: ”Here lies the saint, Dr. Baruch Kappel Goldstein, blessed be the memory of the righteous and holy man, may The Lord avenge his blood, who devoted his soul to The Jews, Jewish religion and Jewish land. His hands are innocent and his heart is pure. He was killed as a martyr of God on the 14th of Adar, Purim, in the year 5754.”

    “Condemned by every religious authority”? No.

    Responding to the massacre, Rabbi Yitzhak Levinger stated, “I am sorry not only about dead Arabs but also about dead flies.” http://www.sunray22b.net/baruch_goldstein.htm

    “A pamphlet named Baruch Hagever was published in 1994 and a book called Baruch Hagever: Sefer Zikaron la-Kadosh Baruch Goldstein in 1995, in which various rabbis praised Goldstein’s action as a pre-emptive strike in response to Hamas threats of a pogrom, and wrote that it is possible to view his act as following five Halachic principles.” http://murderpedia.org/male.G/g/goldstein-baruch.htm

    Chief Rabbi of Hebron and Kiryat Arba in the southern West Bank Dov Lior celebrated the massacre as an act carried out “to sanctify the holy name of God.” He then extolled Goldstein as “a righteous man.” http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/08/how-to-kill-goyim-and-influence-people-leading-israeli-rabbis-defend-manual-for-for-killing-non-jews/

    “Nobody praised him”? (((They))) partied!

    Such are the children of the Father of Lies and Murder (John 8:44).

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  198. @niteranger

    Could be true. Actually- I never thought much of that (honey trap, hookers etc.). But, as far as I can remember, only politicians & more widely known folx like celebrities of various sorts seem to get involved in such activities (including pedo scandals).

    What about bankers? Generally, low-profile & very powerful money-people? I doubt they’re “chaste” or faithful, or even of average morality.

  199. TKK says:

    Madoff.

    Many of those people had to go back to work at 75 and older because he stole their entire retirements. He’s treated like an icon at Butner Federal (basically a hospital). He should have been horse whipped.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  200. L.K says:
    @Sean McBride

    Sean McBride says:Next New Comment
    June 28, 2019 at 3:49 pm GMT • 200 Words
    @Antares
    “I would not have myself played out against moslims that easily.”

    The intersectionalist left is not merely attempting to use the world’s nearly two billion Muslims to attack and take down “whites” (including Israelis and Jews blah, blah, blah…

    Sean McBride, you are full of sh*t.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
    , @Pheasant
  201. Robjil says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Honduras is a second Israel.

    Here is article about the Israel/US coup in Honduras in 2009.

    https://www.opdeepstate.com/2018/10/21/honduras-and-the-israeli-coup-a-new

    “Just as it serviced murderous regimes in Central America in the 1980s, Israel will now be exporting forms of repression to Honduras’ abusive government.

    In the aftermath of the 2009 coup in Honduras, I had the opportunity to interview deposed President Manuel Zelaya, who, having been kindly escorted in his pajamas to Costa Rica by the Honduran military, had then resurfaced in Tegucigalpa and taken refuge in the embassy of Brazil. The interview took place via an intermediary inside the embassy, who conveyed my questions to Zelaya.

    One topic we touched on was a comment the left-leaning Zelaya had made concerning “Israeli mercenaries” operating in Honduras. This had unleashed a predictable hullabaloo in international media, with commentators tripping over each other to portray the besieged leader as an anti-Semite extraordinaire on some sort of permanent acid trip.

    In my write-up of the interview, which was published in an insignificant publication, I happened to point out that Israeli mercenaries weren’t exactly foreign to the Central American landscape. When the piece came out, the publisher of another insignificant publication—to which I had contributed some anti-coup articles—threw a fit. How dare I bring the Israelis into it; I would alienate all of Washington!”

    Honduras is a real Tikkun Olam place but we not allowed to talk about that. Five Jewish families control the nation, will not give up power and will not help the masses.

    https://dagobertobellucci.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-jewish-families-that-run-honduras/

    “Even if everybody calls them ‘Turks’ they are actually families of Jewish origin coming from Arab countries in the 40s and 50s, away from the desert and the wars. They are the Rosenthals, the Facussé, the Larachs, the Nassers, the Kafies and the Goldsteins. Five surnames controlling the manufacturing industries, energy utilities, telecommunications, tourism, banks, finance, concrete makers and commerce, airports or the congress. Practically everything.
    They are the kernel of that 3% of Hondurans controlling 40% of the GNP. They are the aristocrats in a country where 70% of the population are poor.”

    The article was not translated into English. Here the website writer explains the reason why. So he translated it.

    “In its original form this article published 28/11/2009 in ‘El Mundo‘ – a leading Spanish newspaper, has been condemned as anti-Semitic by the American Jewish Committee. You just can’t mention somebody’s ethnicity in certain circumnstances – the journalist only wrote that those five families are of Jewish heritage. Here is rough translation from spanish:”

  202. @Al Liguori

    Hamas is a mossad front, used to give Israel the excuse to attack palestine and to see how blood thirsty the Israelis are read the book Blood In The Water by Joan Mellen about the joint Israeli and zio/US attack on the USS Liberty.

    Also the Israeli and zio/US attack on the WTC on 911, they are blood thirsty killers!

  203. @Sean McBride

    It would have taken too much time to address only some of these questions.

    1. anti-white intersectionalist bunch is, I think, mostly white in color. They’re suicidal lunatics. Jews may be over-represented there, but they’re neither numerous enough nor in commanding positions. Those people, intersectionalists & authentic New Leftists are not some dupes led by cunning Jews to oblivion & self-destruction; they are simply another example in human history that sometimes non-negligible quantities of people crystallize around weird ideas & are ready to die for them because they have become the core of their identity.

    Thomas Munzer’s Anabaptists? Sabbatean Jews? Mormons? Khmer Rouge? Chinese Cultural Revolution?

    Napoleon had said (quoting from memory): People are more ready to die & sacrifice themselves for ideas less they understand them.

    One could argue that white intersectionalists want to destroy their life & “race”, so there is something like death-wish or self-destruction about it all. But- isn’t it similar to early Roman aristocrats & Greek thinkers who embraced Christianity in more extreme forms? They were enthusiastic about destruction of their own, classical world that had existed for centuries & was evidently superior to some weird middle Eastern muddle. I think that real anti-white white activists are numerically insignificant; they seem numerous because of attention they are getting, but they come in negligible quantities; also, their motivations are not authentic, focused & clear- the vast majority of Euro-American anti-white “racists” are moved by other forces (they want their share of fame in the media; they think they can more easily get laid; they just go with the flow without thinking- perhaps they are, using exasperated Marx’s words on English working class “reduced to potato-work”; in the case of many females, they just want to be trendy).

    Tho’- I’m not sure that intersectionalists would be ready to sacrifice their lives.

    2. as for non-Europeans & non-whites, they are impossible to characterize as a group. Joe Sobran had said wise things about their envy & resentment of white historical dominance & superiority, but this is too simplistic. Blacks (most, or at least many of them) resent & hate whites viscerally; east Asians admire, resent & ignore white Europeans (it depends on nationality, so it is, of course, different with the Japanese, Chinese, …), their attitudes being “we are older & smarter, just we had a streak of bad luck”; Hindu Indians are the Empire State Building of various complexes, taboos & paranoias (“we are not given due credit for our accomplishments, from zero to philosophy”) ; Muslims, mostly browns, are ineradicably aggressive & cannot get along with any major culture in modern times (“we’re the best, we’ll rule the world….ouch. Allah must have great future in store for us, but we must remain uncontaminated by infidels”); Mestizo Hispanics are torn between various worlds, indigenous & European.

    So, coalition of fringes is real, but it will come crushing down in a minute, if we just let the nature take its course.

  204. @TKK

    He should have been horse whipped.

    Better: hanged, drawn & quartered.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Pheasant
  205. Gilad Atzmon has written a very good piece on, in Jungian terms, Jewish “shadow” (at least, judging by our modern standards).

    But he has equated, I think, virtually entire modern Judaism (as a culture) with extreme forms of dehumanizing supremacism. I doubt very much that a big chunk of Jews living anywhere (including Israel, but I don’t actually know the land, so it goes mostly for Europe & Americas) harbors this idea in such a pathological & deranged form.

    Putting aside historical meandres of “being better than others & unpolluted” (for historical Hindus, we’re all unclean Mlecchas), modern Jews, when they think they’re better, do it like most other groups: east Asians love to point their higher average IQ in comparison with others; blacks like to brag about bigger dicks (although, in both cases, I don’t think they have much to show). So, modern Jews’ “chosenness” is one example of collective self-regard inflation, something which is widespread among all ethnic & racial & cultural groups, and not anything as centrally destructive as the author claims it to be.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Troll: Al Liguori
  206. @L.K

    Do you have any insights or datasets of interest concerning the current composition and trajectory of the intersectionalist left? Key leaders? Key organizations? Key publications? Key documents? Key funders? Key themes? Key trends? Long-term objectives? Key propaganda terms? Degree of influence in the Democratic Party?

    To what degree do intersectionalists resemble previous 20th century leftist movements — Bolsheviks, Marxist-Leninists, Stalinists, Trotskyites, Maoists, etc.?

  207. @Bardon Kaldian

    Regarding the psychology of chosenness: also take into account Christians, Muslims, Mormons, Marxists (in full historical determinist mode), technocratic elites, transhumanists, etc.

  208. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    A reasonable and balanced estimate.

    We must remember that Jews are not immune to human foibles, nor to the dominant climate of competitive Darwinism.

    My remarks apply to the spirit, letter, and history of the Jewish faith, and normative Judaism as it is actually practiced by Jews – that many Jews deviate from this, or pervert the tenets of their faith, is obviously correct.

    In some sense, human narcissism is natural to all groups – modern Europeans, however, practice a unique form of narcissism we might call “leapfrogging narcissism”, because the true religion of modern whites – Goddess Reason – commands that one can only display ones commitment to impartial rationality, the Great God, by demonstrating that one has thoroughly killed any partiality towards oneself, which would be irrational.

    But at bottom, when a Leftist valorizes blacks or browns, and an Alt-Rightist distorts data to make Jews and Asians look superior, they are both merely worshipping the Great White God Reason, whose foremost command is that one show no emotional partiality towards oneself.

    • Replies: @alexander
  209. alexander says:
    @AaronB

    do you mean ” Goddess Reason”…or God-less reason ?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  210. ababush says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    they had little to show to the world until 19th C

    What about their influence in Spain during Al Andalus? What about the creation of the City? What about the creation of all those colonial commercial networks? What about their fantastic ability to be bankers for the kings?
    If they had so little to show and were so non-existant, why were they shown the door so often by so many countries in European history?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  211. @insomnia

    If you look at what “Fran”, “Aaron”, “Lot”, “Sean McBride” do on this thread, it’s nothing but deflection.

    Some lesser known actors too, see above: they jump on the thread first, like they’re paid to, dump on Gilad, front-load negativity and name-calling or, in the case of intellectual “Sean”, try to switch paradigms: it’s the Jewish genius that causes resentment, etc.

    They got their shit together, but they’re still obvious.

    Let’s just count what %age of posts here belong to Aaron and Fran. It’s their job.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  212. AaronB: “… the Great White God Reason, whose foremost command is that one show no emotional partiality towards oneself.”

    That’s a good insight, but not the whole truth. Christianity and the culture it has engendered encourages not impartiality, but putting the needs of the Other before one’s own. For example, take the white abolitionists of slave times in America. John Quincy Adams, the sixth American president, was such a one, and is on record as saying that “the redemption” (i.e., abolition of slavery) must come though it cost the lives of millions of white men. A good many other Christian white men proved willing to pay that price only a few years later.

    On the other hand, it’s worth pointing out that reason and its offspring science, in the form of technology, is inherently dispassionate. Technocratic systems tend inevitably towards a race-blind meritocracy. Even among white racists, with other things being equal, few would knowingly go to a white physician who had inferior skills versus a non-white physician with superior skills, or patronize a white-owned business that sold goods inferior to those of a non-white owned business. Because of this tendency, the meritocracy at which the white man’s civilization aims eventually results in his racial obliteration.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  213. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Thank you.

    I used to think it was mere dispassion , but I have come to think it is motivated conduct.

    First, because true neutrality is not possible. Or rather, one demonstrates zeal for neutrality by taking sides against oneself. So dispassion contains a hidden imperative – it is a God, and like any God, demands sacrifices on its altar.

    Second, observing whites who would ostentatiously claim to be objective and utterly impartial sifters of data; the HBD crowd. To my surprise, I discovered that they regularly distorted data against whites.

    It became clear, then, that they were offering sacrifices on the altar of Reason, and burning incense to their God – indeed, how else can one show one’s pious devotion to Reason, than by killing humanity’s most deep seated emotional bias – self love?

    It is the sweetest sacrifice to Reason, the first born son of the emotions.

    As for Christianity, I actually think that its contribution is only apparent, despite appearances, because of a peculiar feature of morality – the more moral one is, the more one gains in self respect and self esteem. Curiously, moral self sacrifice for others does not result in loss of self interest.

    We know this is historically so. All cultures which uphold an elevated ethic have great self respect.

    So moral self sacrifice never results in despising oneself – yet as I mentioned, the white form of narcissism is to despise whites.

    Christianity may have led to whites displaying excessive benevolence and self sacrifice towards others, perhaps, but it never could have led to self-contempt.

    And indeed, as long as Europe was Christian, she respected herself.

  214. I just answered my own question: out of to-date 214 comments, 45 belong to Fran, Aaron, Sean (McBride), and a few less active posters (TKK, Lot) who are consistently judeophile and often step in more.

    (I’m including the Wiz here, who’s clearly judeophile, though probably not paid.)

    But this is not all: if you counted the posts that are direct REACTIONS to above judeophiles, you’d easily get >50%.

    So yeah, they hijack conversations.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @TKK
  215. AaronB says:
    @Parsnipitous

    You hijack conversations; we are the conversation.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  216. @ababush

    Their contribution to world culture was very important in composition of OT/Hebrew Bible, which is great literature by any standards. Also, they wrote numerous even now readable texts on archaic spiritual philosophies, most around the beginning of the new era.

    But- that’s all. Ancient classic world was immensely richer in its products. Hebrew written legacy far surpasses that of other mid-Eastern peoples (Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Akkadians, Assyrians,…). It is, however, dwarfed by Greek heritage. For instance, there is no traditional Jewish medicine, let alone mathematics or visual arts.

    And if you mean power- it depends.

    They were, although some dispute it, rather numerous during time of Nero, 4-6 million of them in the whole world. If they had their country or empire, there would be at least 200-400 million of them now.

    In ancient Greece & Rome, they were typical Levantines, proficient in business & numerous trades, cobblers, drapers, carpenters, agricultural workers, bakers …

    They were sometimes influential, but never dominant in host societies, especially Zoroastrian & Islamic, but also European Christian. Many European “countries” expelled them from, I think 10th, to 14th C- but these were not serious states, except few real monarchies (England, Spain); those numerous European “states” were basically city-states & local fiefdoms.

    So, there is a myth they’ve been booted from “everywhere”. Most of the time host peoples & empires tolerated them & protected: Papal states, most European countries, Abbasid & Cordoba caliphates, Ottoman Empire, Prussian Empire …

    They had been important in early stages of medieval European banking, but with the advent of the modern world, Fuggers and Medicis had put most of them out of business. After all- what could they do? They were not allowed to possess the land & were excluded from guilds, universities, … almost everything in early-to-modern Europe.

    The conclusion would be:

    1. from 700 BC to 1770 AD, they were, except literature & religion, not very significant within Western culture

    2. as regards social & economic power, this changed over time: they basically had it good in the East (Iran, Arabs, Ottomans), while in Europe their fortunes changes over almost 2000 years. Sometimes they, as a group, had been influential; but, generally, they were marginalized & looked down to – and they’d never dominated.

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Troll: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    , @ababush
  217. TKK says:
    @Parsnipitous

    WTF?

    I posted once and referenced Madoff. Said he should be horse whipped.

    I try to be civil, but I’m not paid by any Jew to post and I am not Jewish, you paranoid clown.

    But people like you distract from any actual serious thoughts given to a malignant Jewish influence- you just accused me and it’s laughable.

    Res Ipsa Loquitur.

    • Replies: @Parsnipitous
  218. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent article.

    I contend that Chikli, Janner, Weinstein and Epstein have something else in common. Their actions display a dismissal of others that verges on complete contempt for humanity. This is the crux of choseness. To be chosen is to see oneself as an exceptional creation. It entails blindness to otherness. It is a form of impunity. To be chosen often involves a near or total lack of empathy. Such lack is often defined in terms of acute narcissism and psychopathy. Chikli is clearly aware of the human inclination for empathy, it is that impulse that he allegedly exploited to his own benefit, he just lacks that empathic quality himself.

    And let’s not forget (((Woody Allen))) and (((Roman Polanski))). The first one married his adopted daughter and the second one drugged and raped a teenage girl in the ass.

    Are they jail-free? Yes.

    Are they still revered for their contribution for what passes for the (((high-end goyim culture in the West)))? Oh, without a doubt.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  219. Anonymous [AKA "AnitaHellofachick"] says:

    Gee, I wonder why there was a holocaust.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  220. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Exactly.

    The (((MSM))) will never tell you that most of the “#me too” perpetrators are Jews – despite being a super-tiny, sub-1% part of the World.

    Let that sink in.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  221. AaronB: “Christianity may have led to whites displaying excessive benevolence and self sacrifice towards others, perhaps, but it never could have led to self-contempt.”

    Not unless making the commitment to race suicide which Christianity requires is self-contempt. Also, consider the Christian takeover of classical civilization. It was the embodiment of racial and cultural self-contempt. Libraries were burned, possession of pagan literature of any kind was declared a capital offense, statues of the pagan gods and monuments pulled down and defaced, pagan temples plundered and wrecked, and so forth, all for the pleasure and greater glory of the non-white Jesus. If that wasn’t self-contempt, nothing is.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  222. @Anonymous

    Soonyi wasn’t Allen’s adopted daughter.

    Yes, it’s totally ridiculous and gross, but he was never legally her ‘father’.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  223. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Christianity does not require race suicide, although it obviously is incompatible with modern style biological racism.

    There is no logical reason that helping others requires self hatred. And there is no logical reason that sacrificing for others requires that you retain zero self interest.

    And in practice, Christianity was never understood that way. For 2,000 years it was not seen as incompatible with elementary self-interest, and did not engender self-contempt.

    It engendered tremendous self respect.

    Self-contempt first appeared in Europe in the 18th century, among the Romantics on the one hand – and they claimed they were responding to the Enlightenment – and on the other hand among the Enlightenment philosphes themselves, figures like Montesqiue, who began demonstrating their commitment to impartial rationality by writing satirical works ridiculing European society in comparison to foreign countries.

    These are the two branches of European self contempt.

    The Christian takeover of the ancient world does indeed suggest the Pagan world had grown to hate itself, so to speak – you are quite perceptive in this.

    Nietzsche suggested that had Christianity not appeared, the ancient world would have seen mass suicides and societies formed for the purpose of collective suicide – perhaps something analogous to the heroin epidemics today, a form of covert suicide.

    And what distinguishing feature of the late ancient world led to this? You guess it, the worship of the Goddess Reason.

    We are facing the same crisis as the late ancient world, where rationality became the reigning God and cast a dark shadow over life.

    And we will likewise either be saved by religion, the science of the imagination and emotions, of the soul, or we will commit mass suicide.

  224. AaronB: “For 2,000 years [Christianity] was not seen as incompatible with elementary self-interest, and did not engender self-contempt.”

    Race, wealth, pride, strength, achievement — Christianity has nothing but contempt for the things of this world. Its gaze is focused on the mirage of an illusionary next one. Even a slight acquaintance with the Gospels should teach you that.

    AaronB: “Self-contempt first appeared in Europe in the 18th century…”

    Long before, the Christians of Europe spent a thousand years huddling in darkness and ignorance, awaiting the return from death of non-white Jesus. They had such self-contempt they had disowned and forgotten their own past.

    AaronB: “And what distinguishing feature of the late ancient world led to this? You guess it, the worship of the Goddess Reason.”

    No, what led to it was the literal worship of anti-Reason, i.e., Jesus and Christianity, which showed nothing but contempt for reason, and was based only on faith. Jesus doesn’t argue with anyone; he doesn’t reason his way to truth, he proclaims he IS the truth, and if you can’t accept that, it’s eternal damnation and torture for you.

    Christianity didn’t recruit from the elites, not at first. Philosophers such as Celsus held it in contempt. The whining, ignominious death of Jesus was contrasted unfavorably by them with the noble death of Socrates. Christianity recruited from the vulgar masses; it celebrated the diseased, and made ignorance a virtue, same as today.

    AaronB: “And we will likewise either be saved by religion, the science of the imagination and emotions, of the soul…”

    False beliefs never saved anyone, but instead have caused untold death and destruction; have caused whole civilizations to collapse. This includes belief in a fictional character such as Jesus, and the associated belief that people are not really their bodies, but instead are imaginary entities called “souls”. Souls are raceless, belief in them the cornerstone of race-denialism, egalitarianism and in the end, race suicide.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  225. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Good luck, my friend.

    None of this is my problem anymore, thank God, as I no longer identify as white.

    Hope it works out for you.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  226. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I doubt very much that a big chunk of Jews living anywhere (including Israel, but I don’t actually know the land, so it goes mostly for Europe & Americas) harbors this idea in such a pathological & deranged form.

    Your gratuitous denial is laughable.

    I have aggregated many proof texts of Judaism’s pathological & deranged fundamentals, many of the proof texts are from Chabad, the largest and most influential group of orthodox Jews in the world: http://judaism.is/who-is-human.html

    I have aggregated many verifiable instances of Jews acting out Judaism’s pathological & deranged fundamentals globally: http://judaism.is/perpetrators.html
    and especially in Occupied Palestine: http://judaism.is/genocide.html
    ritually: http://judaism.is/ritual-murder.html
    and for sport: http://judaism.is/israelis-target-children.html

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  227. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    The (((MSM))) will never tell you that most of the “#me too” perpetrators are Jews – despite being a super-tiny, sub-1% part of the World.

    There is an explanation…

  228. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Most of the time host peoples & empires tolerated them & protected: Papal states, most European countries, Abbasid & Cordoba caliphates, Ottoman Empire, Prussian Empire …

    What utter rubbish.

    They were expelled from the Papal States 1569 A.D.
    They were expelled from Prussia 1843 A.D.
    They were expelled from virtually every part of Europe at some time or another.

    They weren’t expelled from the Abbasid and Cordoba caliphates because they joined with the Moors against the Christians and yet Jewish behavior earned numerous pogroms and expulsions in Islamic lands.

    The parasites repaid the Ottomans as they usually repay their hosts—with subversion by Jews and crypto-Jews, dönmeh.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  229. @Priss Factor

    He was emotionally her father and that is already bad enough.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  230. @Al Liguori

    Hasbara doesn’t mean “horseshit”, it means literally “explanation” and is used in the sense of “propaganda”.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  231. Wally says:

    Off topic, but a fine man has passed.
    https://www.antiwar.com/

    Justin Raimondo, RIP
    (1951-2019)

    On Thursday, June 27, Justin Raimondo passed away after a long battle with lung cancer. He was 67. Justin was a lifelong fighter for peace and liberty. In 1995, he co-founded Antiwar.com with Eric Garris. He served as Antiwar.com’s editorial director and top columnist, writing over 3,000 articles for the website. He can never be replaced and will be missed by countless numbers of fans and followers. Read his Antiwar.com obituary here. More remembrances will follow in the days to come.

    more at:
    https://original.antiwar.com/Antiwar_Staff/2019/06/27/justin-raimondo-rip-1951-2019/

  232. awry says:
    @Parfois1

    I don’t think you mean the above quote to be an universal self-evident truth. If so, it does done give credit to you as a human being to ignore the fact that human beings, and other lower order animals are capable and do give up their lives so that others can live and prosper. Even ants do that.

    Yes, but they give up their lives so others genetically closely related to them can live. For whites to act altruistic and even self-sacrifical towards sub-saharan africans for example is another thing. It’s totally irrational and results from ideological brainwashing.
    Excluding the hypothetical scenario of Earth being invaded by extraterrestrials, then it would make sense to give up your life for members of another race of the human species so that they can live.
    Otherwise it can be only coming from some insane ideology, like the leftist belief that whites are the cancer of this earth, guilty for global warming etc. so us whites should “step aside” and voluntarily go gently into that good night so the noble savages can prosper, lving in a harmonious balance with nature, singling kumbaya, when the evil of “whiteness” is finally eradicated from the face of this planet.

  233. refl says:

    I am a little late on this thread, so maybe someone has pointed out already that this:

    Chikli ’s scam was dependent upon the humane compassion of others.

    is flawed. The rich people who gave money for the scam were not altruistic but simply flattered. Being materialists of low self esteem, they felt elevated by the fact that the foreign minister would address them. Being such idiots and presumably having once earned a higher educational degree, they should be fined with double the amount for criminal stupiditiy.
    There is a larger point here: These are exactly the kind of people, who feel holy and righteous as Christians for supporting Israel. Again, they feel elevated in their adulation for the higher ups – once a mayor politician, the other time the chosen people. They will feel elevated for having been f*cked by someone big.
    As for the Zio-defense departement on this thread: Whataboutism is never a good argument. YOU want YOUR people not to engage in organ trading etc. YOU strive to maintain YOUR moral integrity. I feel in your arguments a moral confusion, that won’t do you any good.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @S
  234. Miggle says:
    @Sean McBride

    If that were the case, might this explain why the proponents of this messianic and utopian belief system have encountered such a hostile reception in all times and places?

    Have they?Haven’t the Jews always been privileged? In all times and places?There’s a difference between having a bad reputation and being hated. And it’s possible to make too much of a few massacres of Jews over many centuries, while ignoring the massacres of Gentiles and of non-Pharisaic, non-Rabbinic Jews by Jews. But isn’t Jewish victimhood just hate speech? Is “remembrance” of the “Holocaust” anything else?

  235. @Sean McBride

    You believe you are asking something profound here, but your question has been answered already by codes of ethics through out history. And the answer is a resounding ‘No.’ The ancient Greeks wrote about hubris and its tragic consequences. And Jesus never said don’t do great things but number two rule is love your neighbor as yourself. It’s difficult to abuse others when you abide by that. Ultimately we are talking about spiritual maturity that comes from being vigilante against self and recognizing we are all capable of inflicting horrendous evil on each other.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  236. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Yes, I know that. It’s a meme calling out the horseshit “explanations” offered by the Jews; it’s not etymology. 🙂

    Here’s another in the definition collection:

  237. @Chris in Cackalacky

    Actually, the ancient Greeks took enormous pride in creating what was actually a great and superior civilization by every objective measure.

    It is difficult to imagine the creation of any great civilization without a sense of special mission. It requires tremendous force and visionary forward movement to create a civilization that leaves a powerful imprint on history — call it messianic self-confidence, if you will.

    Regarding the term “barbarian”:

    “The word barbarian was used originally by the Greeks to refer to any non-Greek: Egyptians, Persians, Indians, Celts, Germans, Phoenicians, Etruscans, Macedonians, Carthaginians, Vikings, Goths – all of these became known as barbarians.”

    Perhaps somewhat equivalent to “goyim.”

  238. @Al Liguori

    Stop bullshitting.

    Jews were never expelled from Papal states, only more strictly ghettoed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cum_nimis_absurdum

    Also, they were never expelled from Prussia; the most serious deportations being that of ethnic Poles in 1880s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_deportations

    I’m really tired of this lousy idiotic imbecility….

    • Troll: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @utu
    , @Al Liguori
  239. @refl

    The rich people who gave money for the scam were not altruistic but simply flattered. Being materialists of low self esteem, they felt elevated by the fact that the foreign minister would address them.

    By Jove, I think you may be onto something!

  240. utu says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “I’m really tired… “ – Why don’t you take a rest? And perhaps reflect on persecution of Jews in Croatia during WWII and the role of your family members in it. You may deal with your knee jerk compensatory philo-Semitism then.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  241. @utu

    This is Serbian anti-Croatian BS, but has an element of truth in it (of course, just a part):
    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t894101/

    Now, back to the dunce corner….

  242. Israel should come up with the Philo-Semitic Soap to be sold to goyim to wash away their sins of ‘antisemitism’.

    • Replies: @S
    , @SolontoCroesus
  243. @Franklin Ryckaert

    I’ve a feeling Allen’s favorite movie is LOLITA.

  244. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Stop bullshitting. Jews were never expelled from Papal states… Also, they were never expelled from Prussia…

    Oh, really?

    Following the Papal Bull you cited, Cum Nimis Absurdum (“How completely absurd”) 1555, of Pope Paul IV which created the ghetto of Rome, the Papal Bull Hebraeorum gens (“The Jewish Race”) 1569, of Pope Saint Pius V expelled Jews from the Papal states, excepting Rome and Ancona. https://www.wikiwand.com/it/Hebraeorum_gens

    The Jews were expelled from Prussia in 1510 for suborning desecrations:

    As late as Dec. 21, 1509, Margrave Joachim received Jews into his territory. In the year following a Christian who had stolen a monstrance from a church testified that he had been hired by the Jews to sell them a consecrated host; in consequence thirty-six Jews were burned at the stake in Berlin, while two who had accepted Christianity were beheaded (July 17, 1510; Grätz, “Gesch.” ix. 99-100; “Zeitschrift für die Gesch. der Juden in Deutschland,” ii. 21, 23). The Jews were then expelled from the margravate and their synagogues and cemeteries confiscated, as appears from an agreement between Margrave Joachim and the city of Tangermünde (Steinschneider, “Hebr. Bibl.” xxi. 26).
    http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12405-prussia

    The Jews were also expelled from Prussia in 1843 and your own source specifically mentions the 1885-1890 “deportations” of “Polish Jews.”

  245. Zimriel says:

    I’m willing to excuse Weinstein as someone who took advantage of dopey shiksa sluts. I find the evidence he did more than that, weak. 4chan has the right of it; he’s /ourguy/, and I’m hoping he comes out of this with a clearer understanding of Feminism.
    I agree with you about Epstein and Polanski, both convicted, and rightly so.

    • Replies: @utu
  246. S says:
    @Priss Factor

    Israel should come up with the Philo-Semitic Soap to be sold to goyim to wash away their sins of ‘antisemitism’.

    You mean like how the Irish do with their special soap? 😉

  247. Zimriel says:
    @Ma Laoshi

    Thus saith @Ma Laoshi, descendant of an angry ethnostate, currently busily expanding said state at the expense of Uyghur land.
    ‘Tis possible he’s posting from the USA, of course… which also has absolutely nothing to do with racial supremacy on someone else’s land

  248. S says:
    @refl

    There’s an old saying about people who get suckered on a scam have often got ‘a little bit of larceny’ themselves.

    Of course their (perhaps) not being entirely honest with themselves about a crooked proposal in no way excuses someone ripping them off, it might help to explain in part how it happened.

  249. @Priss Factor

    Informative passages from Into the Darkness: An Uncensored Report from Inside the Third Reich At War by Lothrop Stoddard; published 1940.

    https://www.unz.com/book/lothrop_stoddard__into-the-darkness/

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0300731.txt

    “The other two guests were Herr Hewel, one of Hitler’s confidential advisers, and Dr. Otto Schramm, a leading Berlin surgeon. In the course of the evening, Dr. Schramm told me about a new synthetic fat which had just been invented. Elaborate experiments were being made to produce not only a substitute for soap but also an edible compound to supplement animal fats and vegetable oils. This, he claimed, would soon remedy blockaded Germany’s chief dietary danger, since it could be produced from chemical constituents abundantly available. . . .

    and

    [W]e touch upon another very sore point in wartime Germany’s domestic life. That point is soap.
    We have already noted how short Germany is in butter, lard, and kindred products. But this shortage goes beyond edible fats. It applies to soap-products as well. Nowhere are Germans more strictly rationed. Each person gets only one cake of toilet soap per month. The precious object is about as large as what we call a guest-cake size, and it has to do the individual not only for face and hands but for the bath as well.
    The same strict rationing applies to laundry soap and powder. Furthermore, the fat content of both is so low that, though it takes the dirt out, the clothes are apt to look a bit gray. And bleaches must be used sparingly, since they tend to wear out clothes. That is why most families have their washing done at home instead of sending it out to commercial laundries. Incidentally, when the washing is done, the sudsy water is not thrown away. It is carefully saved for washing floors or other heavy cleaning.

    The publication date is noteworthy, especially when one notices that Henry Morgenthau, Jr. (apparently) recorded in his voluminous diaries that in 1942:

    “A turning point in Henry Morgenthau, Jr.’s relationship with the Jewish community came in November 1942, when Rabbi Stephen Wise . . .[told] the secretary what was happening in Europe. Morgenthau knew of the millions of deaths and the lampshades made from victims’ skin, and he asked Wise not to go into excessive details. But Wise went on to tell of the barbarity of the Nazis, how they were making soap out of Jewish flesh. Morgenthau, turning paler, implored him, “Please, Stephen, don’t give me the gory details.” Wise went on with his list of horrors and Morgenthau repeated his plea again and again . . . Morgenthau later said the meeting changed his life.” Henry Morgenthau, JR: The Jew who Defeated Hitler https://www.amazon.com/Jew-Who-Defeated-Hitler-Morgenthau-ebook/dp/B00K9MK5CW/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=Peter+moreira&qid=1561842550&s=gateway&sr=8-8

    That Germans were researching making synthetic fats and soap does not eliminate the possibility that “Jewish flesh” was used in the process, but but the dates of these two reports, in addition to Rabbi Stephen Wise’s involvement in the 1933 – 1941 economic war against Germany that created the critical shortage in fats (as well as in his crucial primary mission: to carry out Louis Brandeis’s directive to get “all 587,000 German Jews out of Germany” one way or another) do create an important chain of evidence.
    In short, Rabbi Wise was a damnable liar who played a major role in ginning up hate, in service of zionism.
    Rabbi Stephen Wise’s grandchildren and great- grandchildren live comfortably in the American midwest.

    • Replies: @S
  250. S says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    There’s a movie filmed in late 1942 and early 1943 called Stage Door Canteen about a war time club set up for service members and staffed by Hollywood actors and actresses. The entry ticket was your uniform and there really was such a club.

    Anyhow, in the film there’s a scene where as someone finishes there skit for the troops, they say something along the lines of ‘shoot’, ‘fight’, or ‘kill’ the Germans.

    At that point the actor Ed Wynn (yes, Jewish) jumps in and says something along the lines of ‘no, exterminate’ the Germans.

    He definitely used the term ‘exterminate’.

    That was years back I saw the film but that part of it made an impression as in general it was supposed to be somewhat light hearted, and having that term in there seemed a bit incongruous.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  251. utu says:
    @Zimriel

    “Epstein and Polanski, both convicted” – and not really punished.

  252. @S

    Neat observation.

    Didn’t Ed Wynn play ‘Crazy Uncle’ roles — i.e. his jacket with mis-matched plaid & straining buttons, his too-small hat — yet he delivers the killer, or Kill Them, line.

    Incongruous is the right word.

    • Replies: @S
  253. S says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Yes, Ed Wynn often played older eccentric types, such as in the 1959 Twilight Zone episode still below.

    Wynn’s use of the term ‘exterminate’ in regard to Germans is even more incongruous as clearly a lot of the extras in the scene (actual army, navy, and marine personnel) were of Germanic origins themselves.

  254. ababush says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks for your reply

    1. from 700 BC to 1770 AD, they were, except literature & religion, not very significant within Western culture

    Well, Jewish writings and Religion had a very strong influence in Western Culture (from Cordoba to Spinoza, Luther etc…).

    2. as regards social & economic power, this changed over time: they basically had it good in the East (Iran, Arabs, Ottomans), while in Europe their fortunes changes over almost 2000 years. Sometimes they, as a group, had been influential; but, generally, they were marginalized & looked down to – and they’d never dominated.

    Marginalized and looked down? What about Amsterdam, the City of London, Venice, Colonial companies, arandars in Poland etc etc. It seems some of them tried to grab power through finance in many places, and all of them were consequently expelled from most of those places (and later recalled for financial reasons). More than 100 expulsions in Europe (including one from Papal states), 12 expulsions for France alone…

  255. ababush says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    So, modern Jews’ “chosenness” is one example of collective self-regard inflation, something which is widespread among all ethnic & racial & cultural groups.

    One specificity of the “choseness” of jews is that it is so strong that it allowed them to perpetuate it during 2500 years, despite a (supposedly) small population, the lack of a country base and the spreading of their population all over the places.

    Another specificity of their “choseness”, as exposed in the article, is that it leads them to a complete lack of empathy for the “not chosen”, as demonstrated by so many facts and writings (they are supremacists).

    And another specificity of their choseness is that contrary to other “self-regard inflated” ethnicities, they have and they are a messianic project, which explains the previous points.

  256. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @anonymous

    ‘Western civilisational success is something to be in awe, for sure, but I also know that their pagan polytheist mangods-worship will land them in the eternal Fire. It will certainly not be worth it.’

    Is there nothing like being looked down upon by a Muslim whose highest sense of spirituality is getting all the materialistic goodies that Mohammed promised him?

    You are projecting Muslims (false) sense of self and civilisational esteem onto Whites.

    European civilisation reached its peak (materially) after the enlightenment i.e after Christianity had been sidelined.

    Also as a follower of Mohhamed you have no busuiness lecturing anybody about imperialism and plunder- your whole religion is based on it.

    Id ask you to educate yourself but lets be honest its a waste of time. Getting beyond the typical muslim resentment of Whites and narcissism/superiority complex (and the concurrent inferiority complex that always comes as a flip side) is just too much.

    Still you might refrain from making stupid comments and sharing your resentment with your Jewish cousin mr Mcbride.

  257. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    But that would be anti-semitic?

  258. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @L.K

    Yes he is indeed, resentful little jew mischling that he is.

  259. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @AaronB

    Projecting just a little bit?

    You might dominate comment sections (as part of paid hasbara) but they are open to all.

    Whoops.

  260. Pheasant [AKA "Anonymousing"] says:
    @AaronB

    ‘as I no longer identify as white’

    I hope you did the right thing and moved to Israel.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  261. AaronB says:
    @Pheasant

    Of course.

    I am moving to Israel, and I think most Jews should.

    It is not healthy for us to live in the diaspora.

    We should get out of your hair, and heal ourselves.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  262. @Parsnipitous

    No one is paying me. I do not get why if you are on the other side of an argument you are paid. Are you being paid? Any Jewish person aware of the pernicious things said about Jews wants to respond.
    With regard to the amount of my posting. Usually I post a comment an observation related to the accusations about Jews. I am shocked at the amount of responses and questions that I get. Even if I was a Hasbara troll why respond? So I get engaged and the thread goes on. Sometimes the conversations rise above the Jew hating BS and are interesting, and some of the references made about Jews with references to writing have also been interesting the pastor E something I actually agreed with many of his points.
    I am not paid. I am not going to respond as I agree that I am dominating the thread but it takes two to tango.
    You have to realize how shocking and disturbing to hear the things being said about Jews in an open internet forum circa 2019. I do the best I can.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Parsnipitous
    , @j2
  263. Skeptikal says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “Not to any degree like Arab muslims ”

    We are talking about Jews, not Arabs.
    Stick to the subject. One man’s crime is not negated by another’s.
    Arabs do not AFAIK have their Hasbara troops out on the internet saying, hey, look at those Israelis!
    I wish they did but they don’t.
    However, it doesn’t really change a thing.
    You cannot go into a court of justice, or public opinion, pleading innocence because someone else did something similar.
    In fact, doing so is an adminssion of guilt.
    All whataboutism is a open admission of guilt.

    • Agree: Al Liguori
  264. Skeptikal says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “I agree that I am dominating the thread ”

    Maybe get a job?
    You must not have enough to do with yourself!

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  265. @TKK

    Look who’s butthurt, TKK himself. You take turns with the other Israel-firsters, so yeah only two posts/214 is not too good, but it’s the team that matters!

    I wish you good luck on managing not only this site, but the mess you’ve created elsewhere as well. As a master race (religion/ethnicity/club/whatever), you should be able to manage.

  266. @Fran Taubman

    I’m not being paid. I believe you’re not being paid either, though considering posting habits, it’s generous.

    You don’t like how Jews are being portrayed here? Be real, look at what happens in the mainstream. Think that may have sumthin to do with it? I don’t know what this site is really about, but I know what it does.

    Be evenhanded, respectful, even open-minded for what’s worth: I certainly would not reject you out of hand, as I wouldn’t our host Ron Unz.

    Do knee-jerk defense strategies and I will.

  267. @Fran Taubman

    What I took away from the article, the thing which seemed outrageous to me was that this scoundrel was protected by Israel because he was Jewish. In other words, Israel as a country has contempt for ordinary standards of decency. As a Jew you can do what the hell you like outside Israel and what the hell you like to non-Jews inside Israel and the state will protect you from the revenge of the world outside. Reminds me a bit of a septic cyst.

  268. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    “Lapid was responding to an interview with Smotrich

    The Israeli Blue-White opposition co-chair Yair Lapid ventured into dangerous territory on Twitter last week, where he argued for “equality” and a “state of all its citizens”. This brought backlash not least from the Foreign Minister for being “anti-Semitic” and for using the “slogan of the enemy.” And Lapid quickly retracted.

    Then the bombshell:

    And another thing, Smotrich. Israel has to be a state of all its citizens.

    And so at 11:24, Smotrich linked to Lapid’s tweet, with the comment:

    A state of all its citizens?! What happened to a Jewish and democratic state?! Yair my friend, you have lost your way.

    At 11:41 Smotrich continued to squeeze the lemon:

    Yair Lapid, candidate of Blue White for Prime Minister: “Israel needs to be a state of all its citizens”. Thank you Yair, that this finally came out of you. Any additional word is superfluous.

    a major debacle for Lapid. He had to do major damage control. At 11:59 he tweeted:

    Someone really, but really, didn’t understand what he’s reading. I am against a state of all its citizens, completely and throughout my whole life. Israel is a Jewish and democratic state and will remain such. ”

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/07/citizens-netanyahus-challenger/

  269. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Foreign Minister Israel Katz chimed in, calling Lapid’s “state of all its citizens” remark a “seriously outrageous anti-Semitic remark … the slogan of the enemy”.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/07/citizens-netanyahus-challenger/

  270. @renfro

    Yes, many people have. Of course, there are extreme situations when a person may be forced to self-sacrifice, for instance a parent who, in a crisis, puts his or her own children’s lives before his or her own. But this is not exactly about compassion. It is more about responsibility, to say nothing of genetic interests, a notion which some find questionable. Other than that, self-sacrifice has lost much of its appeal. That is why the U.S. has professionalized its military.

    But it takes strong healthy adults to make both admirable heroes and poor manipulated schmucks. A child who does not have a strong instinct of self-preservation will never grow to become a strong healthy adult. And, also, soldiers who ditch their survival instinct altogether are of very limited use. Anyway, war propaganda has never been about compassion. Hatred is more efficient, for some reason. In this topic, one must tread carefully in order to avoid cognitive dissonance.

    This answers also parfois1’s response to my original comment.

  271. @Parfois1

    Self-sacrifice mostly arises in a context of collective survival instinct, real or induced by propaganda. Compassion is often used as an instrumental concept aimed at achieving that sense of collectivity. But the mere fact that the basic concept here is survival instinct shows you which one is dominant in our nature.

    This response goes to renfro also. And please see my response to renfro for possible further clarification.

  272. j2 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “I do not get why if you are on the other side of an argument you are paid.”

    The reason people think that you might be a troll is that you express propaganda claims. These propaganda claims have been shown false long ago and the vast majority of commenters in this webzine know it. Thus, when somebody like you repeats these false claims, other commenters have to guess if you really believe in all those lies and could be shown the falsity in them, or if you know that they are lies and still repeat them. I gave you the benefit of doubt in the Holocaust case, but it seems to me that you do know that the official story is false, yet you support it. This does make you a Hasbara, paid or not. There are others like you, they always repeat the same claims, no matter how many time these claims are shown false. They are the Hasbaras in this webzine, some may be paid, some not, it does not matter, and besides, they often use quite foul language when they start losing an argument, which is always the case. So, if you are seeking the truth, seek the truth, and if you really believe the lies you have been told, learn something. Do not take it as your task to protect the Jews. They are well protected already. There is much basis to the accusations of the mass media falsifying history on favor of the Jews. This site is about finding the truth.

  273. The 3000 years history of the “chosen people” is based on lies,fictions and myths.Total fabrications that that none of it is supported by historical evidence.Where is the great kingdom of Israel?How come that not a single archaeological trace was found to prove it?No currency,no scripts,no memorials ,statues of the great king David and Solomon?!Not even mentioned in the history books of their contemporary historians,sages,kings & Pharaohs of their times!

    To the modern history of the fabricated holocaust and gas chambers,again,no physical or scientific proof,only attacking and smearing whoever dares to inquire their evidence,or question it’s validity.

    As for the Jewish merits and genius,constituting 20% of the Nobel prize laureates,I don’t consider Menachem Begin,Henry Kissinger and their Jewish likes as beacons of human achievement,and I don’t know how much left if we’ll apply such standards,but what I know for sure,is that the Jewish power is controlling almost every vital corner of our modern world,the economy and finance policies,the most influential news media and broadcasting corporations,the politicians and political parties of the western countries,the influential think tanks,CFR, Trilateral commission,Chatham house…etc, and I believe they are doing a very lousy job in all mentioned fields, resulting in great harms and tragedies, except for themselves and their cronies,this is the reality of their genius,which makes me wonder why such “chosen geniuses” failed for three thousand years, to find a way to co exist with their overwhelming majority of gentiles?!So much so for their genius!!

    • Agree: Robjil
  274. @Wael Ahmad

    Their genius lies exactly in their destructiveness. And as such they have been a resounding success.

    • Replies: @Wael Ahmad
  275. Miro23 says:

    Jeffrey Epstein’s story is similarly abusive. The convicted sex offender prostituted dozens of underage girls and should have spent the rest of his life in jail. Again this is no ‘one-off’ abuse of an underage child, he was a serial sex predator.

    Interesting that Epstein has just been re-arrested. This is highly unusual in the US insider world.

    It looks like some top level insider conflict. Maybe we’re going to get the full story on Clinton’s, Trump’s, Dershowitz’, Prince Andrew’s etc. activities on Epstein’s Pedo Island and this is a serious attempt to abandon ship.

    Or maybe Trump is taking on his extortionists?

    https://teapartypac.org/muellers-star-witness-against-trump-once-arrested-for-child-porn-hung-out-with-pedos-clinton-and-epstein-photos/

  276. @Wael Ahmad

    What rock have you been living under. There are Shekels found on this site from 1,949 years ago.
    Take a look. I cannot copy the exact photo/Users/frantaubman/Desktop/jpeg.jpeg

    Check this out
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekel

    and there is always the DEAD SEA SCROLLS.
    You are remarkably ignorant.

    • Replies: @Wael Ahmad
  277. @Fran Taubman

    Bravo,idiot ! You found few Shekels and rotten scrolls of papyrus nobody knows what’s it’s origin, I can believe the Shekel story since you were and always be a tribe of thieves,who knows who you stole it from, but I don’t rule out the possibility that it might be false currency recently inserted by your Jewish archaeologists,since you were and always remain a tribe of liars, fakers and fraudsters,on the other hand, if I’ll take your claim at it’s face value,my question to you is: Is that your ultimate proof of the past existence of the great kingdom of David & Solomon?! How come that you couldn’t find any remains of monuments,memorials,tombs,palaces, or any sign of great construction that belongs to your mythical great kingdom?! Did you find any historian,king,Pharaoh or Roman emperor who mentioned your fabricated kingdom?!Of course there’s nothing,even if you’ll dig down till you reach the core of the earth,you’ll find nothing of what try to fool the world with.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  278. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Their genius in destructiveness and resounding success with it,also brought them periodical disasters and oppression throughout their history,and three thousand years of being despised,isolated,not trusted and hated by their adoptive countries & communities.

  279. @Wael Ahmad

    Is that your ultimate proof of the past existence of the great kingdom of David & Solomon?! How come that you couldn’t find any remains of monuments,memorials,tombs,palaces, or any sign of great construction that belongs to your mythical great kingdom?! Did you find any historian,king,Pharaoh or Roman emperor who mentioned your fabricated kingdom?!Of course there’s nothing,even if you’ll dig down till you reach the core of the earth,you’ll find nothing of what try to fool the world with.

    There is the tomb of the Patriarchs, which is actually the first land sale transaction described in the bible. The tomb is of Abraham Issac and Jacob. It is also a holy site for muslims since they are Islamic patriarch as well. The tomb is in Hebron.
    There is also the Mount of Olives, a cemetery in Jerusalem that has Jewish tomb stones from early AD.
    The story of the Jews is covered extensively in Roman history. (this is laughable, do you have access to a history book of Rome Lol). Flavius Joseph was a Roman historian who wrote extensively about the Jews of Antiquity (his first book) as well as the life and times of Jesus and Jerusalem, the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Temple. Above the cross where Jesus was crucified it said in latin Jesus King of The Jews.

    The shekel goes back to biblical times as well as the kingdoms. Name one Palestinian coin, and or king or ruler. You cannot because there are none. Its astounding people that can just negate basic proven history. Where do you think Jesus turned over the money at the temple? Jerusalem.

    But you should start out with some basic Roman history, or Islamic and Christian history. Or read this link about Flavius Joseph. I do not think it is made up. Just saying.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus

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