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It is possible that Epstein is just an ordinary paedophile, a slave to his own sick depravity. But this now seems unlikely, it leaves too many questions unresolved: why did Epstein build a sex trafficking network? Why did he seek the company of the world’s most influential characters? Why did he schlep all those royals, once and future presidents, Harvard professors and movie stars around the world in his ‘Lolita Express’? And then we get to the big question: how did he get away with it all? Back in 2007, registered sex offender Epstein was supposed to spend the rest of his life behind bars. Instead he spent a mere thirteen months in a VIP prison.

The Daily Beast reported yesterday that when Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who infamously cut Epstein a non-prosecution plea deal back in 2007, was being interviewed for the job of US labor secretary by the Trump administration’s transition team, Acosta’s conduct in the Epstein affair came under scrutiny. In that interview Acosta allegedly said, “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone.”

The more we look into this registered sex offender’s saga, the more it appears to have the characteristics of a gargantuan espionage operation. If so, then Epstein was running a multi-million intelligence apparatus set to accumulate dirt on some of the world’s most influential people. The walls of his Caribbean island palace were rigged with cameras, and likely for reasons other than his personal libidinal gratification. Epstein didn’t work alone. Press reports allege that Ghislaine Maxwell functioned as Epstein’s ‘madam.’

Multiple court filings reviewed and reported on by the Miami Herald reveal that lawyers for one of Epstein’s alleged victims claim that Maxwell helped traffic girls and women to powerful figures. The same documents report that the alleged victims were lured into the sex ring by offers of modelling, fashion, and educational opportunities.

Ghislaine is the youngest child of the flamboyant Jewish media tycoon Robert Maxwell, who died under mysterious circumstances in November 1991. Shortly before he died, a self-proclaimed former Mossad officer named Ari Ben-Menashe had approached a number of news organisations in Britain and the United States with the allegation that Maxwell was a long-time agent for the Israeli intelligence service.

I cannot verify whether Robert Maxwell was a Mossad agent or if association with the Mossad is an hereditary trait, but the possible conjecture that Epstein and Maxwell were running an intelligence operation makes sense of the questions surrounding this gruesome spectacle.

ORDER IT NOW

This intelligence postulate raises a crucial question. If Epstein was a spy, who did he work for? Was it the Russians? I only ask because every time Tel Aviv comes up as a likely suspect American media tends to blame the Russians. Maybe Epstein was working for the Iranians, all indications are that the Trump’s administration is desperate for a pretext for a war with Iran. Another possibly is that this affair is a classic MI6 operation and Epstein is actually the paedophile model of 007. If the espionage conspiracy theory is correct, then the Mossad and the CIA would be the natural suspects. Yet it is difficult to believe that the Mossad acting by itself was powerful enough to procure for Epstein his remarkably lenient plea deal. It is almost impossible to imagine that Acosta, acting as the federal prosecutor, would take instructions from Israel. If it was the Mossad, they likely enjoyed significant support from within the American intelligence community. I assume that Alan Dershowitz, Epstein’s former attorney, may be able to answer some of these questions. He seems to know the details:

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Truth3 says:

    Mossad operation probability… 99%+

    Just another sick Zhyd indulging his fantasies without anyone helping… <1%

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  2. paedophile, or pedophile, is not the right word for what Epstein is accused of.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    , @unit472
  3. Gordo says:
    @Tono Bungay

    paedophile, or pedophile, is not the right word for what Epstein is accused of.

    Espionage is the issue here methinks, not a discussion of the age of consent in West Virginia.

  4. Why are we hearing so little these days about Kenneth Starr’s role in getting Jeffrey Epstein his sweetheart deal from the Feds? https://www.justice-integrity.org/791-ken-starr-explains-his-help-for-billionaire-pervert-jeffrey-epstein

    Could there be a connection to Starr’s role in covering up the Vince Foster murder? See “Was Vince Foster’s Murder PizzaGate-Related? http://dcdave.com/article5/161213.htm. Maybe Starr is an all-purpose Deep State fixer when it comes to pedophilia.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  5. melpol says:

    Gangbangers are known to be extremely stimulated by teens on the young side. Epstein sent invitations to socially acclaimed gangbangers letting them know that dozens of young teens were going to be at his parties. Epstein’s was a voyeur, his reward was to enjoy watching the high and mighty descend into depravity. He masturbated while watching the orgy.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  6. Truth3 says:

    Acosta resigns… the story moves towards the inevitable conclusion.

    Look for a Special Prosecutor to be called for.

    • Replies: @The Scalpel
  7. The competence of the cryptocracy is definitely down on previous generations.

    While there is damage control going on here, this whole thing is definitely a case of dire masquerade breakdown.

    We’ll see where this all goes, and whether the good Mr Epstein suddenly suffers acute heart troubles.

  8. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Truth3

    government by special prosecution

  9. Markster says:

    A scumbag Jew who liked debauching young non Jew girls, who was involved in a variety of sleazy and shady financial transactions and relationships with the powerful ? A possible spy, blackmailer, influence peddlar , corrupter ??

    I am truly shocked.

    Lets see, Weinstein, Epstein, Frankenstein………..I have to make a note never to deal with anyone whose name ends in ah aaam Stein.

    • Replies: @Hillbob
  10. Hillbob says:
    @Markster

    Ha ha….very funny…..all steined and Madeof filth

  11. @Truth3

    Remind me again.
    Why did white men ever allow these people in their lands?

    • Replies: @anon
  12. Alan Dershowitz is – – – think of Steve Sailer – – – – “shocked!” to hear, Epstein was dealing with underage girls. The video is like a moving-pictures-illustration of one of the truly great Steve Sailer memes.

  13. Has anyone noticed the plot similarities between this and Jude Süss?

    Life imitates art — or something.

  14. (((Epstein))) worked for Israhell.

    his pal Trump works for Israhell.

    case closed. Right now Trump is feeling

    like (((Robert Maxwell))), just before he

    swam with the fishes. He’s got one out:

    attack Iran real soon.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  15. Epstein has been pegged for more than a decade in my books as a MOSSAD agent running a global, THE global pedo ring used to blackmail and bribe powerful, connected people for his masters. It was NO secret. I know that Gilad knows the VT crew, they reported on this many years ago I think. besides which you’d have to be a retard not to have put 2 and 2 together years ago from what was public knowledge. Unless of course one is naive and doesn’t understand the nature of ‘intelligence agencies’ and their methods. Particularly MOSSAD/CIA. Circumstantial evidence alone would just about convict him.

    What I am wondering is if Trump is dirty or clean. This will be hugely significant going forward. If Trump is dirty, then Epstein is in the right place at the right time for his masters to make sure Trump dances to their tune without fail. Only remaining queston besides who are his masters? Do they want war with Iran, or not? Guess we will know when the next false flag in the Gulf goes off.

    • Replies: @abbybwood
  16. @Haxo Angmark

    Not everyone works for Rothschildlandia and there are indications trump himself may actually be clean with regards to Epstein who he publicly cut ties with in disgust along with the rest of the Clinton camp in the late nineties. Not to mention banned the creep from Mar-a-lago although that may have been a manager. In which case Trump did not override it. It is a slim chance but just possible that Trump is clean and the taking down of Epstein will instead hobble the traitors around him who are compromised or belong to the uber Zionistas. I admit it is a slim chance but too early to rule out. There is one thing that remains to be clarified for me with the orange one. WHY is the so-called “Deep State” which has always been 100% Zionist oriented against Trump? Could it be because this was one they actually had NOT managed to compromise to the PEDO level necessary to guarantee obedience? It isn’t as if he has proved particularly problematic for them relatively speaking, more pliable than Barky but still he resisted the recent false flags as he has done previous ones in Syria. I know it’s a slim hope but I’m holding out for Trump being a deliberate fly in the ointment who isn’t in their control so much as deeply influenced….and just possibly begginning to bite at the bit.

  17. Robjil says:

    Trump and Putin don’t drink.

    Drinking is an easy way to get one in compromising positions.

    Our “free” press demonizes both of them to extreme levels.

    This could be the reason that they are both so intensely disliked by our “free” press is that they both can’t be completely controlled like Yelstin, Bush Jr., Obama, most of the Congress, the EU, etc.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  18. unit472 says:
    @Tono Bungay

    Sure, the ‘international man of mystery’ , Epstein, is the issue but the labeling of him as a paedophile by the media is not an accident. Almost 30 years ago, Rep. Gerry Studds could stand on the floor of the House of Representatives and defend his pouring vodka down the gullet of a 16 year old page boy before sodomizing him as ‘consensual sex’. Studds was not called a paedophile by the Washington Post or the NYTs.

    Raúl Ilargi Meijer has an interesting article at his website ( https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2019/07/why-did-jeffrey-epstein-fly-back-to-the-us/ ) that asks the important question of why did Epstein come back to the US knowing he was going to be indicted?

    Something is just not quite right about Epstein’s ‘career’. Hugh Hefner could live the ‘Playboy’ life into his nineties and never run afoul of the law or public opinion because his ‘girls’ driver’s licenses said 18. As a practical matter, to a 40 or 50 year old man looking for some young flesh being 16 or 18 is a distinction without a difference but it makes a world of difference if your goal is blackmail but this begs another question. If you are Prince Andrew, a billionaire or an ex POTUS do your really need the services of Epstein and Maxwell to get laid- even by a teeny bopper? None of this story makes much sense save for the fact that Epstein has fallen out of favor and must have feared for his life had he stayed in Paris.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @abbybwood
  19. @melpol

    GANGBANGERS? You dick shiner!

    • Replies: @Brexit Warrior
  20. Look into Epstein’s connections to the “Mega Group”.

    https://badgoyproductions.blogspot.com

  21. The biggest item missing from Gilad Atzmon’s look at Jeffrey Epstein, is Epstein’s historically biggest financial partner, Les Wexner

    Wexner the lead figure in a group of about 20 aggressive Zionist Jewish billionaires named as the ‘Mega Group’ in the 1990s … Wexner possibly the main funder & creator of the whole ‘blackmail via under-age girls on an island’ scheme

    Did Les Wexner, with his fierce wish to destroy the enemies of Zionism, along with his fellow ‘Mega Group’ billionaires, fund the expensive show of ‘Jeffrey Epstein billionaire with private jet’ … all in order to create a Mossad honeypot blackmail scheme abusing under-age girls, in order to entrap major politicians into being compelled to support Israel? To ‘save & protect Jewish lives’?

    https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/07/epstein-arrest-is-mossad-operation.html

    In 1988 Jeffrey Epstein declared net worth of only USA $20 million … where did he get the huge fortune after that?

    Wexner’s trust bought the New York mansion Epstein lives in, which was raided the other day, Wexner turning it over to Epstein around 1995

    Les Wexner has himself been named as the paymaster of kidnappers of a menaced young woman, in a court filing involving Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Dershowitz etc
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/07/12/court-document-ties-wexner-and-dershowitz-to-epstein-maxwell-rape-ring/

    Dershowitz admits he had a massage at Epstein’s place, tho by an ‘older Russian woman’ and Dersh ‘kept his underwear on’ … maybe this ‘Russian’ a girl who looked older with all her make-up?

    In the 2008 ‘deal’ after Epstein’s 2007 indictment, ultra-Zionist Alan Dershowitz was a leading lawyer brokering that deal

    Now Dershowitz seems to have sabotaged Epstein, Dershowitz arguing in court that Epstein files should be unsealed and made public … Dershowitz won that battle in a US federal appeals court 2 July, 4 days before Epstein was arrested
    https://biglawbusiness.com/dershowitz-wins-unsealing-of-epstein-related-defamation-case

    Dershowitz claimed he was trying to defend himself but that seems silly … Epstein files cannot ‘prove a negative’ that Dershowitz never raped children, there can only be a lack of evidence … and files show Dershowitz deeply connected with Epstein

    Daily Beast is the media leading the charge against Epstein now with ‘insider scoops’ from prosecutors

    Daily Beast was founded in 2008 by Jewish media kingpin Barry Diller, & Tina Brown ‘who has Jewish grand-father’

    On 30 June during the USA 2016 election, The Daily Beast ran a story about how the Jeffrey Epstein files, could destroy either the Clintons or Donald Trump
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton

    https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/07/what-behind-epstein-arrest-now.html

    The ‘prosecution’ of Jeffrey Epstein is very Jewish … involving prosecutors connected to both Trumps & Clintons

    Lead prosecutor of Epstein is Jewish Geoffrey Berman, law partner of Rudy Giuliani ‘Mr 9-11’ who is now Donald Trump’s top personal lawyer

    Assisting Berman, is Maurene Comey, daughter of Hillary ally & former FBI Director James Comey, fired by Trump, Maurene Comey married into the Zionist Issacharoff family, her new father-in-law having taught at Tel Aviv University

    Wikipedia, run by CIA-Mossad ex-pornographer Jimmy Wales, close friend of Israeli presidents, has edited Epstein’s biography to delete the USA Democrats connected with Epstein … and to delete references Epstein is Jewish

    Epstein made the same claim as Jimmy Wales, of getting their mysterious money by ‘foreign currency trading’, which crushes most people who try to do it … it seems this is a cover story for getting political money from Jewish sources

    EU Police Agency and Prosecutor Report on Wikipedia, an Intel Agency Fraud
    http://pastebin.com/BeppgiMJ

    At the age of 20, university drop-out Jeffrey Epstein, was hired to teach maths & physics to teen-age girls & boys, at the prestigious private Dalton School in Manhattan, where he worked from 1973-75

    The headmaster who hired Epstein, was Jewish convert to Christianity Donald Barr (1921-2004), who is the father of Donald Trump’s current Attorney General William Barr (born 1950) … who thus has Jewish ancestral heritage

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Colin Wright
  22. Sean says:
    @Brabantian

    Wexner possibly the main funder & creator of the whole ‘blackmail via under-age girls on an island’ scheme

    Wexner is a long time legit business billionaire so he is much more likely to be the target of a blackmail scheme. And that is exactly what Dershowitz says is behind all these accusations by the woman who has accused Wexner of having sex with her. Her unpublished manuscript for a book did not mention Dershowitz, he was a very late addition. She also originally claimed to have been 15 when she started work with Epstein but now acknowledges she was 17.

    No one in their right mind is going to involve their lawyer or allow his to have knowledge of the very crimes that the lawyer is defending him on. First of all, you cannot expect a lawyer to stand up police pressure. Secondly, lawyers are far more effective if they believe their client is innocent.

  23. @Sean

    ‘Secondly, lawyers are far more effective if they believe their client is innocent.’

    No decent lawyer has clients who are innocent.

    • Replies: @Sean
  24. @Brabantian

    ‘…Wexner the lead figure in a group of about 20 aggressive Zionist Jewish billionaires named as the ‘Mega Group’ in the 1990s … Wexner possibly the main funder & creator of the whole ‘blackmail via under-age girls on an island’ scheme…

    This works better than either the ‘jus’ a feller who liked ’em young’ or the ‘Mossad agent’ extremes.

    Epstein, Wexner, et al would be like Sheldon Adelson; ‘mighty warriors for Yahweh.’ They’re taking their money and talents and using them to fight the good fight for Israel.

    Certainly Israel’s happy to benefit — and no doubt she cooperates fully — but she’s not really the driving engine of this scheme.

    I’m not convinced of this myself — but it makes a better working hypothesis than anything else I’ve read yet.

  25. @unit472

    ‘…If you are Prince Andrew, a billionaire or an ex POTUS do your really need the services of Epstein and Maxwell to get laid- even by a teeny bopper? …’

    If you think through the practical scenarios, the answer might be ‘yeah, you do.’

    …that is, unless you shortly want to read all the details about your weekend together with your love-toy in the National Enquirer.

    • Replies: @Sean
  26. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    Lawyers need brains, but also to have a lot of the actor about them to be good in court. They suspend their disbelief, and don’t expect the fourth wall to be broken. Even after an acquittal, it is considered very bad form for the client to tell the lawyer he was guilty.

    Supposing they are found guilty, there is then less reason than before the trial to make even implicit admissions, because they have one last hope of a successful appeal. So no one is going to give their their lawyer any reason to think they are guilty. Prison is full of innocent convicts.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  27. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    Prince Andrew liked older women, as with Sarah Ferguson (he went gay for a while after that) and Koo Stark. Before that he astounded the the Queen by asking out a friend of hers who was decades older than him.

    Anyway the woman fabricating all these these allegations was at least 17 years old at the time. He could have had young looking 18 or 19 year olds as a single man if that was his thing. He could have married a 16 year old if he wanted. Andrew official position at the time was to drum up business for UK exporters, so he hung out with moneyed Wall Street figures. The allegation against him is bullcrap.

  28. Sean says:

    Epstein was running a multi-million intelligence apparatus set to accumulate dirt on some of the world’s most influential people.

    Prince Andrew?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  29. @Sean

    She also originally claimed to have been 15 when she started work with Epstein but now acknowledges she was 17.

    This is very telling, because such mistakes can only be made on purpose.

    For example I remember perfectly hearing on the radio that North Korea had been beaten 5-3 by Portugal in the World Cup of 1966 after leading 3-0. This occurred on July 23rd, 1966, 5 days after my fifteenth birthday. (53 years ago.)

    I would never confuse that with hearing about the first man walking on the moon on July 20th 1969, 2 days after my eighteenth.

    Even if her memory is not as good as mine, she would surely know how old she was and what grade she was in high school when she started working at Mar-A-Lago, and even if she didn’t, making legal depositions is not the same as a casual conversation after a few drinks when a slip of the tongue might give the wrong year.

  30. You have had a real field day, more like a feast on Epstein for your diet of champions: SCAPEGOATING JEWS.
    How delicious it must be for you to have someone so loathed a defense is non existent.
    A billionaire pedophile with secret money. Check every box. So easy my poodles could write this feast of Scapegoat crap.
    The true test of a lazy mind to figure 3 articles about this guy. Have you done Kabbalah numerology to decipher the meaning of his name in the Torah, or did they find the protocols amongst his belongings, or secret nuclear codes with notes to take over the world? You are a true mental midget Gilad, to weaponize this guy among the Jew hating crowd. But that is your true calling article after article pin the tail on the Jewish scapegoat artist, feed the frenzy.
    I leave you with this article by Hirshi Ali, talking about the white elephant in the room. Baked into the DNA of muslims. Interesting how she points out the myth of the Jews buying power, vs the Islamist.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-ilhan-omar-overcome-her-prejudice-11562970265

    • Replies: @anon
  31. The allegation that Jewish or Zionist money controls Congress is nonsensical. The Center for Responsive Politics estimates that the Israeli government has spent $34 million on lobbying in Washington since 2017. The Saudis and Qataris spent a combined $51 million during the same period. If we include foreign nongovernmental organizations, the pro-Israel lobbying figure rises to $63 million—less than the $68 million spent lobbying for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

    Hirsi Ali

    Islamists have understood well how to couple Muslim anti-Semitism with the American left’s vague notion of “social justice.” They have succeeded in couching their agenda in the progressive framework of the oppressed versus the oppressor. Identity politics and victimhood culture also provide Islamists with the vocabulary to deflect their critics with accusations of “Islamophobia,” “white privilege” and “insensitivity.” A perfect illustration was the way Ms. Omar and her allies were able to turn a House resolution condemning her anti-Semitism into a garbled “intersectional” rant in which Muslims emerged as the most vulnerable minority in the league table of victimhood.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  32. @Sean

    ‘Lawyers need brains, but also to have a lot of the actor about them to be good in court. They suspend their disbelief…’

    I’ve heard the opinion of two veteran lawyers on this question, and neither one ‘suspended their disbelief.’

    One was a very successful criminal defense lawyer in Oakland, Ca — and he certainly didn’t suspend his disbelief. In fact, he found it mildly depressing that he spent his time securing acquittals for people who not only were guilty, but were usually very bad actors to boot. After all, first-time offenders can usually do alright with the public defender. By the time anyone hired Spencer, they were usually repeat offenders, had done something horrific again, and were looking at some serious time unless the family threw money into the kitty and paid Spencer’s fee.

    The other lawyer was a guy who’d gone back to teaching high school after his kids were grown up — he thought other lawyers sucked. Thinking back over his career, he could think of oneclient he’d had who was convicted that he genuinely thought was innocent.

  33. @Sean

    ‘Prince Andrew?’

    Prince Andrew presumably served to give the operation some ‘class.’

    Plus, it furnishes some protection. A lot of people would just as soon not see the Royal Family dragged through the mud.

    Think of Prince Andrew as the fine wine to go with the meal. Not precisely the steak, but it’s certainly an appreciated adjunct.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Parisian Guy
  34. Epstein’s dead meat now. Fran Taubman’s taking over the defense.

    Notice how the other Zionists are just keeping quiet, Fran?

    There’s a reason for that.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  35. @Colin Wright

    There is no defense of him. You never comprehend what I wrote. My point being, the only reason he is being written about is that he is Jewish. So you can imprint all your Jewphobia on to him.
    IE: All Jewish men are pedophiles. Its called racism and scapegoating, you are always so slow to understand.
    My fault is with Gilad posting every criminal Jew he can get his hands on. “look, look a criminal Jew.”

  36. @Fran Taubman

    ‘…My point being, the only reason he is being written about is that he is Jewish…’

    I think you actually believe that.

    No, Epstein is not being written about because he is Jewish. He is being written about because he variously seduced and raped girls as young as thirteen and trafficked in them to the rich and famous, including almost certainly a former US president.

    It’s all incredibly corrupt and lurid, including suborned courts and government officials, hints of involvement on the part of a member of the British Royal family, a personal 737 equipped with a bed, and a private island.

    This guy would be a story no matter what he was. Face it. If the Jewish angle is having any impact at all, it’s probably making some people back off.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  37. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    I really see no possible advantage for Epstein in compromising Dershowitz by letting him see or lose credibility by being around anything untoward. Moreover, Dershowitz has always been a very valuable resource due to his Zionist positions, prestige as a jurist and through arguing for Israel he is very closely associated with the Israeli Lobby. Mossad would never have got permission to keelhaul him through the cesspit of Epstein. Now, if it was a patient long term Iranian secret service operation, then things have went swimmingly for them.

    Plus, it furnishes some protection. A lot of people would just as soon not see the Royal Family dragged through the mud.

    No one that matters. The politicians, nonMurdoch press, and police knew better than to bother Rupert Murdoch and his family even when it was obvious that Murdoch newspapers (including the Sun which back in the eighties had a huge picture of a 16 year old female model exposing her breasts on page 3 every week) were engaging in organised tapping of the phone messages of every major public figure, especially the royal family. And when someone tried to raise the matter with the authorities he was murdered, a private detective that was working for Murdoch doing phone hacking is the prime suspect for the killing and was tried twice for it. Prince Charles was accused of being part of a homosexual rape ring with the valet. The Queen was said to be the richest person in the world, Princess Diana was followed everywhere she were even abroad and harried to her death, the royal family were blamed for that ect ect.

    Where is the beef in the allegation that these men were powerful enough to be worth blackmailing. Athe a time they were cultivated by Epstein they were merely retired politicians. Clinton had no plane, Epstein did so Clinton accepted use the plane for of his humanitarian diplomatic visits. Epstein gave away vast amounts of money to obscure scientists like Marin Nowak, comparatively speaking hardly anything was given to active politicians. Political contributions and giving to their wives’ pet charities would have been a great way to get them onto his island and into compromising positions. Epstein was always known to be

    Also regarding this woman who in 2015 started saying she had been sleeping with presidents and prime ministers and it was all taped by Epstein, why is she still alive? It seems to me she would have been paid millions for her silence or disposed of by any blackmail operation so she could not expose it and make the whole thing a waste of time. Insead what happened that Epstein gave her an all expenses paid trip to Thailand on a massage course, and she then went to Australia when she wrote a book manuscript that did not mention of these VIPs . Those accusations she only remembered later? She is a twist, a scam artist with less to fear that a truckstop hooker lifting wallets, as proven by the fact she never went into hiding.

    Epstein certainly has a sexual fetish for massage (I think the under age stuff was partially motivated by a desire for not paying out the kind of money an 18 year old professional would demand). He is merely someone who tried to live his fantasies in his real life, and has found out the hard way that Martin Nowack is right–especially once one get entangled in the criminal justice system– good reputation is the invaluable resource. He thought it was money, which is why he paid those impoverished low class little girls a few hundred for a massage, and then got his dick out, and expected none would tell their mothers that he had duped them (he paid out tens of millions in compensation as part of the deal). He could have had 18 year olds galore, paid them properly, and even if they went to the press he could say. “So What!”

    Instead he is a convicted sex offender who had to agree to register as such to get his plea deal, now any charge against him will be a slam dunk. And the trafficking a 14 year old charge is going to get him life in prison, and because of the previous deal the judge will specify a real prison, which is somewhere Epstein will have to be isolated and soon wish himself dead.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  38. And the focus will stay on Epstein so that all the Elites who were sexually assaulting 11-16 year old girls and boys on that island will remain covered up. So far, they have only mentioned the same names they have already mentioned the first time this story broke; Clinton, Prince Andrew, and a couple others.

    So, it is likely that much more powerful people who were involved will be protected from indictment.

  39. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill Jones

    Because Jewsus loves all the children of the world, red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. We all bleed red, man! “He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth.” (Acts 17:26)

  40. @Sean

    ‘I really see no possible advantage for Epstein in compromising Dershowitz by letting him see or lose credibility by being around anything untoward. Moreover, Dershowitz has always been a very valuable resource due to his Zionist positions, prestige as a jurist and through arguing for Israel he is very closely associated with the Israeli Lobby. Mossad would never have got permission to keelhaul him through the cesspit of Epstein…’

    If there are those who would insist there’s no intelligence connection at all, this swings too far to the other extreme.

    Israeli intelligence isn’t some argus-eyed monster of perfect and diabolical efficiency. It bumbles, misses moves, and depends a lot on the imperfect cooperation of such kindred but essentially independent spirits such as Epstein, Dershowitz, Maxwell, Pollard, et al, et al.

    These people do what they want to — and aid Israel how they want to. Epstein, I’m sure, has a genuine taste for violating and degrading young girls, and probably voyuerism, and it pleases him to see in all this service to Israel. Dershowitz — apparently — likes to violate and degrade young girls as well. Israel is happy to take advantage of the ‘fruits’ of their labors — to gain still closer control over the Clintons, for example — but it’s not like it can dictate every step they take.

    It’s important to keep some perspective here. Israel is utterly unscrupulous, and by virtue of being ‘the Jewish state’ automatically gets the services of all the worst in Judaism everywhere. However, that still leaves her as a state less than half the size of San Bernardino County and with a population of only twelve million or so. Even Jewry at large represents only 0.2% of humanity, and most of those are only very conditionally loyal to Israel. Our own dear Fran Taubman, for example, would probably willingly list leading ‘threats to Israel’ she perceives on this board for Mossad; but I doubt if she would poison the neighbor’s children for it.

    So Mossad can’t really keep Dershowitz from indulging his tastes; it might conceivably have tried to stop him had it known in time — but my suspicion is that it didn’t know until it was too late, and isn’t even close to having the resources to monitor its assets like that.

    Israel could be compared to the N.R.A. The N.R.A. could well get Joe Bob to give them some money each year, and phone his congressman, and even show up for a demonstration. On the other hand, they’d have a hell of a time if they started trying to make sure he never got drunk and fired off his assault rifle in the camp ground.

    My point here is that like the N.R.A., Israel can command the allegiance of quite an army of supporters. It’s not, however, a very disciplined army, and Israel can’t actually keep many of these troops from acting like idiots if they feel like acting like idiots. They’re allies, actually; not servants. Israel goes to them, and says ‘would you,’ or they come to Israel and say ‘I could’ — but then they go off on their own and have that hot little shiksa who wouldn’t even look at them when they were a pimply adolescent. There’s nothing Israel can do about that.

    • Replies: @MrTea
  41. Sean says:

    A) As part of a sophisticated secret service operation for compromising VIPs, Epstein became a self confessed child molester who pled guilty to specimen charges. He then helpfully left thousands of photos of victims he had not faced charges about strewn around his properties, so that investigators could easily frame new charges that would–will–put him in prison for the rest of his life.

    B) Epstein got his dick caught in his zipper. No one can understand how a financial conjurer of considerable personal charm could have been so stupid, so it is being assumed that there was much more to it than other sex scandals like Weinstein, Luis K . But the accounts of Epstein’s victims are in fact very similar to the aforementioned cases. Epstein liked mastubating in front of the girls as much as if not rather more rather than actually having sex with them. The assertion that Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and the prosecutor was told to “to leave it alone” (although Epstein was sent to prison amid huge publicity) came from the prosecutor himself, Acosta, who was bullshitting.

    • Troll: Parisian Guy
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  42. @Fran Taubman

    As usually practiced by those who want to hide reality, unfitted comparison is made by Fran Taubman.

    The way that zionists control Congress is not by the power of money. It is by the power of medias. Bad press can kill any congressman reelection.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  43. @Colin Wright

    Prince Andrew presumably served to give the operation some ‘class.’

    Nobody can tell right now that Andrew is innocent. Nevertheless, your hypothesis is a very relevant one.

    One can understand from this NYTimes article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/13/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-new-york-elite.html that Epstein had a policy to cultivate high profile relationships which he used as believable wittnesses of his benevolence, smartness, philantropy, innocence and so on.
    Just look, around two third of the NYT article, how he used Peggy Siegal and Dr. Anderson-Dubin to manufacture his comeback in NY high society, after he spent one year in (fake) jail. He obviously used Prince Andrew renown at the same time, when he made that dinner at his Manhattan home.

  44. @Fran Taubman

    My fault is with Gilad posting every criminal Jew he can get his hands on. “look, look a criminal Jew.”

    Look, look, here is a stuborn and boring Jewish Princess ;=)

  45. @Parisian Guy

    ….The way that zionists control Congress is not by the power of money. It is by the power of medias. Bad press can kill any congressman reelection.’

    It’s both, actually. Should you make the mistake of failing to enthusiastically support Israel, AIPAC can find someone to oppose you in the next primary and fund him very generously. Only those with a real hammerlock on their districts and no contingent of Evangelical basij to worry about have the luxury of being able to vote their consciences yet stay in office.

    Now, if all five hundred Congressvermin stood up to AIPAC at once, AIPAC wouldn’t be able to do that, but so long as it’s one or two at a time…

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  46. @Sean

    ‘…’

    For some reason I’m still not sure of, you’re very determined to minimize the significance of Epstein’s crimes, and even (July 9, 2019 at 9:03 am GMT ) minimize their severity. Epstein just did it all for personal reasons. It wasn’t that bad. In a nutshell, that would seem to be it.

    I don’t suppose you will, but it would be illuminating if you would explain your motivation.

    • Replies: @Sean
  47. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You chose the wrong Muslim .You could have chosen Netanyahoo as well. Hirshad Ali is a Jewish creation just like is the Hagee Falllafall ( Falwell clan ) and Grumpy shitholes ( Graham clans ) . So she is paying some of her overdue service to the master through the equally obnoxious Likudnik newspaper WSJ owned by a bought , bribed and protected Goym

  48. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    On the contrary, I don’t understand why he would commit such serious crimes as part of an intelligence operation and yet leave–and be allowed to leave–the whole thing and himself so open to being exposed. His flaunted wealth would never cease attracting accusations for mercenary motives, and his behaviour since having being free was even more odd. Keeping in his own US homes hundreds of photos of apparent victims that can be used by the prosecution to bring new charges is inexplicable for someone part of any kind of state intelligence operation. The number one principle is you have an escape route or contingency plan in place before going ahead with any operation. He seems to be extemporising and one step too late every time. He has just been charged with interfering with the investigation for paying two unnamed co conspirators off.

    His method of financial operations is a good index to his mental style, his business being registered offshore in the Virgin Islands is astoundingly opaque even for that kind of set up. However, it is clear there is a lack of staff to assist him making and administering investments. I think his business may be helping others avoid tax and it is for reasons of secrecy he has got into the habit of being a one man band. If there were professionals in covert action helping him they would have done a little tidying up and Roberts who has been the sole source for information on VIP prostitution, would have not been left alive. I think her being left around is one more indication she made that part of her story up.

    I suppose I–and everyone else commenting here–has the same motivations stemming from genes programing us to obtain social status to further them replicating themselves. Put it another way, we want to be seen as a force to be reckoned with and a useful ally. Jeffrey Epstein has never been married, and there you have a big clue. Once you think you have understood your innate motivations (and Epstein knows a lot about such) it is easy to think your life can be the result of your own choices. Hubris. But those genes are ticking away on their own account, making you do stupid stuff just as you think it is all under control.

  49. @Sean

    ‘On the contrary, I don’t understand why he would commit such serious crimes as part of an intelligence operation and yet leave–and be allowed to leave–the whole thing and himself so open to being exposed…’

    We’re going in circles. I discussed this already. The fantasies of some notwithstanding, no intelligence service — least of all Mossad — is some Argus-eyed beast in total control of all its agents, fellow travelers, kindred spirits, momentary allies, etc.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  50. @Sean

    To make a long story short, you’re avoiding answering my question.

    Well it works. I’m still uncertain of your motive.

  51. @anon

    ‘You chose the wrong Muslim .You could have chosen Netanyahoo as well. Hirshad Ali is a Jewish creation just like is the Hagee Falllafall ( Falwell clan ) and Grumpy shitholes ( Graham clans ) . So she is paying some of her overdue service to the master through the equally obnoxious Likudnik newspaper WSJ owned by a bought , bribed and protected Goym’

    I don’t see any reason to question Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s sincerity — although I would question the significance of her opinions.

    Anyway, Ayaan Hirsi Ali isn’t a Muslim at all. She abandoned the faith fifteen years ago. You might as well quote Israel Shamir as an objective source on Judaism. In fact, that’s kind of unfair to Israel. Hirsi Ali is a rabid Islamophobe.

    I’m sure she had a rough life, but I don’t see why her opinions should be given any particular weight.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  52. @Colin Wright

    You’re absolutely right. I forgot about the donations for campaign that AIPAC can direct. Well, then Fran Taubman was twice wrong, when only comparing money for lobbying.

  53. @Colin Wright

    no intelligence service — least of all Mossad — is some Argus-eyed beast in total control of all its agents, fellow travelers, kindred spirits, momentary allies, etc.

    For sure, Ostrovsky told how he wondered about what some Mossad officers were actually doing. It was not alltimes obvious if they were truly working for Israêl, or only using Mossad skills and powers for the purpose of their own unlawful and profitable business. These guys had the best teaching and exercising about how to cheat, lie, use other human beings as tools, and not be caught in the end.
    How could it be that a lot of them would not become outlaws someway?

    By the way, I remember Ostrovsky also said that sex blackmailing was also used in some case of Mossad internal power struggle. Let’s imagine that Ghislaine Maxwell inherited from her father the sextape of young Bibi partying with his harem of goats and donkeys. Who knows?

    • Replies: @Sean
  54. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t see any reason to question Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s sincerity — although I would question the significance of her opinions.

    Well, as I think I once mentioned, I happened to sit next to her a few months ago at some dinner in SF, and she was endlessly touting the wondrous brilliance of Prince Mohammad of Saudi Arabia, and his outstanding plans to turn his country into one of the world’s technological leaders within a generation or so.

    The host of the dinner, seated on the other side of her, cautiously ventured that maybe it really hadn’t been so smart of him to dismember that Washington Post columnist. She brushed that aside as a minor little mishap.

    So my very strong suspicion is that she’s implicitly or explicitly on the Saudi payroll, or at least wants to be. Under such circumstances, I really might tend “to question [her] sincerity”…

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @MrTea
  55. @Colin Wright

    I think you actually believe that.

    You say that a lot, like you have the code all figured out, and are just waiting for conformation and when you don’t get it you are incredulous.
    I should have said:

    IT IS THE ONLY REASON GILAD IS WRITING ABOUT IT.

  56. @Ron Unz

    Do you believe she suffered genital mutilation as a child, or is that part of the payroll scam?
    She lived a life you know, a muslim woman from Somalia, I believe her over the phony Omar.
    Until you have been a women in a repressive Islamic country like Somalia I would reserve judgement.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  57. Sean says:
    @Parisian Guy

    Let’s get one thing straight, the victims in the case Epstein pled guilty to were not under the age of 16.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  58. @anon

    Blame it on the Jews. Jews did not cut Ali’s genitalia. Like to see someone cut off your genitals and see who you hate. Duh the person that cut them off. My mothers aid is from Burkina Faso (North west Africa). Her father passed away, she was the youngest and was scheduled to be married to some 70 year old Arab Sheik from another village. Her mother sold all of her Jewelry and she escaped to the US as a political refugee age 20. She is an Islamophobe. Can you blame her?
    Stop scapegoating Jews for Muslim crimes. My mother a Jew put her through nursing school.
    No self respecting women would be pro Shiria.
    Ilan Omar is a phony, she only started wearing a hijab after 9/11 to beef up her victimization game.
    She also illegally married her brother for immigration status, who is not the father of her children.

  59. @Sean

    Sean, you only are the worst liar here on UR. I already explained why you deserve to be sandboxed: Too many people have spent too much time to fight your disinformations, which are so many and so fallacious that it is obvious you makes it wittingly.

    Here you made one more lie:

    What you said is not a correct reporting you could use to make your point. You dishonestly pretend to not know that more than fifty page of the initial indictment were removed by the Florida prosecutors who wanted to lighten the Epstein indictment. This is the real reason why there was no under 16 girl in that previous indictment. Today, the indictment is not corruptly redacted the way it was, thus there is lot of under 16 girls in it.

    I notice you concurently made the same kind of lie in another thread, when you wrote that the girl testimonies were not cross-examined in court. Here you are a genuine piece of shit, because you knew the real reason: It went this way because it was what the Epstein’lawyers wanted and they made impossible for the girls to attend the the court, by means of hiding the NPA from the girls until it was too late.

    • Replies: @Sean
  60. @Fran Taubman

    Brilliant point from Fran Taubman who showed that since most medias speak a lot about Epstein, therefore the proof is made of the global antisemitic conspiracy of medias against Jews.

    We owes to Fran taubman for teaching us that the root of the problem is the almost complete monopoly of the Antisemitics on media ownership. Should we not heartly support her new crusade and strongly publicize it?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  61. @Parisian Guy

    The Muslims picked up right where the Catholic church ended their Medieval horror show before the 2nd Vatican, complete with organ trafficking etc. Jews receive the most hatred as it comes from the Far left and Far right. Read this article. What just stymies me is that it comes from Jews like Gilad and UR
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-anti-semitism-11562944476

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  62. Sean says:
    @Parisian Guy

    Why did it become a federal case? The local detectives and press in Florida complained that the state was not bringing serious enough charges and so it became Federal. The Feds initially tried to get him under the Mann Act. He agreed to plead guilty to soliciting prostitution from girls who though under age were over the legal age to marry in that state. He had to admit those crimes and was jailed in ignominy, pus he paid out tens of millions in restitution so those girls were not complaining . And in fact the level of compensation they got would have been a serious problem for the prosecution if it had tried to get him for more. Then the detectives and journalists went after the Federal prosecutor.

    In cross examination the girls, who let me remind you were old enough to marry in that state, would have been asked about whether the compensation they were going to get had affected the testimony they gave. These are girls old enough to legally marry who took money for sexual services.

  63. @Fran Taubman

    Well, I remember having politely explained to you my opinion concerning your whataboutism.

    Here, you just get a lot of ridicule, because this new instance of whataboutism only showed your impotency to anwer something related to my post. I can’t understand why you can’t keep yourself to behave so childishly. Will you grow up some day?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  64. @Sean

    Do you really believe your never substantiated and never referenced assertions deserve more consideration? The way you behaves doesn’t make you an interesting human being. Nobody is interested by what you says. People like me answers you for the sole purpose to fight the disinformation and defamation you are spilling. You are a nothing.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  65. MrTea says:
    @Ron Unz

    For whatever this may be worth, I saw her on a program recently (sorry not sure if it was on C-Span or The California Channel, I think it was C-Span) a conference at Stanford where she on on a panel chaired by husband Nial Ferguson. The wide-ranging discussion concluded with a round-the-table summation of what possible future developments in Africa, Mr. Ferguson saying “I will leave the last word to the only real African on the panel”…after the other commenters went through the usual gymnastics of trying to put a lipstick on a pig by saying something hopeful, Ali finished things off by making a remarkably succinct, brief statement to the effect that “the problem is Islam itself” and some kind of internal reform is the only way out of the cycle of self-defeating behaviors on display there.

    Now I just heard Mark Levin comment that Qatar has apparently stepped in to the role Saudi has been filling of pouring tens of millions into US domestic affairs to promote a quite fundamentalist version of Islam.

    We have the same insane open borders we did the night Ramzi Youseff (or whoever he really is) flew into NYC with NO DOCUMENTS and was let right in (he was convicted of being behind the first WTC attack)–how long until the next 9/11?

    Incidentally anyone who likes to follow up on the still-numerous loose ends from 9/11 can look at Project Censored and look at the interview with the authors who recently published evidence that the CIA was not only aware of the presence of some of the terrorists, it was apparently protecting and cultivating them in the vain hope of “turning” them. Thus the obvious “CYA” behaviors in the wake of the disaster often cited by those promoting some kind of “inside job” version of the story.

  66. MrTea says:
    @Colin Wright

    That is possibly the worst analogy I’ve ever seen. No NRA member has ever done a mass shooting, in fact an NRA instructor prevented further carnage when he shot the mass shooter at the church in Texas (who only had a gun because USAF security missed SIX CHANCES to file fingerprints on him that would have prevented him acquiring a firearm–you can find the PDF on of the investigation online). The NRA has little money and not that many members, just millions of sympathizers increasingly fearful of governments that blame and target THEM while protecting repeat violent offenders, now under the insane “sanctuary” policy (web search for Bambi Larson or look at the latest atrocity at https://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/. Andrew Cuomo released convicted cop killers recently and the national network “news” ignored it. The leftists seem bent on terrorizing the populace with the likes of “protected” minorities like the MS-13, so as to get the foolish to accept more government authority in vain hope of being provided security.

  67. ‘That is possibly the worst analogy I’ve ever seen…’

    I forget who I awarded the last ‘Missing the Point’ prize to — but you just took it from them.

  68. @Parisian Guy

    ‘…The way you behaves doesn’t make you an interesting human being. Nobody is interested by what you says. People like me answers you for the sole purpose to fight the disinformation and defamation you are spilling…’

    The grammar police have got you surrounded. Put down your keyboard and come out with your hands in the air…

    You’re not into cheeseburgers by any chance? Just probing for connections here.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  69. @Fran Taubman

    ‘Do you believe she suffered genital mutilation as a child, or is that part of the payroll scam?’

    Fran suffered genital mutilation as a child?

    And we’ve been so mean to her…oh…wait…

  70. @Fran Taubman

    ‘IT IS THE ONLY REASON GILAD IS WRITING ABOUT IT.’

    Ah. Any time anyone criticizes a Jew, the motive is antisemitism.

    Have I got that right?

    If not, please list counter-examples. Jews who should be the the subject of opprobrium.

    Lessee. Bernie Madoff?

    Jeffrey…um…err…Daumer?

    Was he Jewish?

    Julius Streicher? No, now I’m getting it backwards. Shit…

    F____ing moron. Can you clean bathrooms properly?

  71. @Parisian Guy

    I call it like I see it. This is not a popularity contest. What you think is unimportant to me. Right back attacha with being grown up. I am not writing for you, a little childish to think that no?

  72. @Sean

    ‘…In cross examination the girls, who let me remind you were old enough to marry in that state, would have been asked about whether the compensation they were going to get had affected the testimony they gave. These are girls old enough to legally marry who took money for sexual services.

    Now, at this point I’m torn.

    1. You’re a self-appointed mighty warrior for Yawveh, and just don’t know how to pick your fights. Sort of Fran Taubman in trousers.

    2. You find degrading and raping thirteen year-olds appealing yourself, and hate to see it criminalized.

    3. You’re just dug in on Pork Chop Hill, and will not withdraw.

    I’m open to more flattering hypotheses — but you’ll have to supply them.

    • Replies: @Sean
  73. @Fran Taubman

    ‘I call it like I see it…”

    No doubt. To continue the metaphor, though, one difficulty is that intellectually, you definitely need a pair of glasses.

    Poor Fran. The Saddam Hussein of the internet discussion boards. You know, the outcomes just aren’t going to change…

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  74. @Fran Taubman

    ‘I call it like I see it. This is not a popularity contest. What you think is unimportant to me. Right back attacha with being grown up. I am not writing for you, a little childish to think that no?’

    Score that one +1 to Fran for grammar (a missing comma, but hey…), +about 800 to Parisian Guy for content.

    This reminding you of high school, Fran? Well, maybe you’ve got a nice figure.

  75. If the espionage conspiracy theory is correct, then the Mossad and the CIA would be the natural suspects. Yet it is difficult to believe that the Mossad acting by itself was powerful enough to procure for Epstein his remarkably lenient plea deal.

    Well duh. CIA is a sub division of Mossad. The head of CIA takes his orders from Mossad. Capisce?

  76. Alan Dershowitz has no shame. Even Epstein’s former maid has come out and identified him as a regular fixture at Epstein’s Manhattan home, and said that whenever he came over, he’d go straight upstairs to where all the girls were. I can’t wait for Epstein himself to rat him out as part of a plea bargain.

    • Replies: @Sean
  77. @Colin Wright

    At least I have an intellect. Unlike you are left with spelling check and ad hominem attacks.
    I am not here to change the outcome (whatever that means), or peoples minds. I am here to be me, sans hook nose and beady eyes. That is all I have to offer is the truth of my existence, who and what I am. and my family history. My father service in the war etc.
    I am a witness wether it be racism, or the people that enable them.

    I am pointing out that Gilad is a Jew who only publishes articles aimed to show Jews in a bad light. He could care less about pedophilia or Epstein. He is here on this thread and others to trash Jews with no shame. To stir the pot of Jew hatred. He has no real intellect or point other than to cram all he can into scapegoating Jews for the ills of the world. He is a phony.

    To put it politely I do not care what you think of me or my ideas. You are entitled to believe me or not. Taunting suits you, that is what you do. The last safe harbor for a person with zero ideas is the taunt.

    • Replies: @Sean
  78. ‘At least I have an intellect…’

    This is getting to be kind of embarrassing. Like realizing you’ve wound up making fun of the retarded kid.

    Look, Fran, maybe you’re a nice person. Just stop trying to go to bat for Team Israel. You’re just making it worse all round.

  79. @Colin Wright

    Well, I’m done.
    Could we cut a deal?
    I have in my safe plenty of pictures of nude underage cheeseburgers.
    What about fifty/fifty?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  80. abbybwood says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Let’s not forget the “Jane Doe” who accused Trump of raping her at an Epstein party at his townhouse in Manhattan in 1994 when she was 14 years old:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/epstein-arrest-worry-donald-trump-110022029.html

    This accusation was filed in 2016 and her attorney was Lisa Bloom (Gloria Allred’s daughter). The case was mysteriously “dropped” two days before the November 2016 election.

    This woman is still around and I see no reason why the Manhattan prosecutors should not be calling her and Bloom in as witnesses against Epstein who aided and abetted this alleged rape by Trump of this child.

  81. abbybwood says:
    @unit472

    Here are all the sordid details of what Epstein allegedly did to one of these underage girls over a period of years:

    http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/jane-doe-jeffrey-epstein-103846

    If any Hollywood types are considering doing a flashy movie docudrama on Epstein it would HAVE to have an “X” rating. At least according to the details given of his shenanigans in this story.

    I say Epstein demands a trial and NOT a plea deal! We want a public TRIAL!!!!!!

    The American people are due for our daily CSPAN salacious trial fix! ANYTHING to get our minds off the Democratic primary circus!

    You want to talk RATINGS!? OMG! The big roller international slime bag gangrapers , the surveillance tapes whirring all over the houses and in the plane, the purple VIBRATORS and masturbation by Epstein as he observed all the “girls” having sex with dildos. Wow!

    Waaaayyy better than the OJ trial, cause nobody dies with Epstein. Their lives are destroyed in many different ways and powerful international men of mystery may get their comeuppance. But this would be just the type of TV titillation the American people crave for! Better than anything on Netflix or HBO for sure! Especially the way Epstein mad dogs the women while they testify. Good stuff.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  82. @Fran Taubman

    I am not writing for you, a little childish to think that no?

    You were exchanging with me. Don’t you?
    So here you went in full denial of reality.
    That is an almost sure symptom that your ego was bruised. It probably happened when I told you need to grow up, since you sent back the same criticism. That’s why you also made this other denial of reality when alleguing that you don’t care about your popularity. The truth is that you care about what people think of you. Don’t you?

    I have a very serious question : Do you feel proud to be born Jewish? Or do you think you could be as much proud for being Fran Taubman, if you were born Goyish?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  83. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    Please sit down, I am going to tell you something that will come as a shock. Most men do not find 13 year olds sexually attractive compared to a young woman of prime reproductive age. The idea that VIPs who are surrounded with attractive “interns” would, on average, be be interested in girls barely in their teens is far fetched. Moreover the minority of successful men are with paedo proclivities are wary and would not knowingly commit such a serious offence as statutory rape unless they were the only ones who knew about it . So for the purposes of a blackmail ring females who appeared at least eighteen would be better, and for the purpose of Epstein’s sexual gratification girls of 16-18 who could legally marry in that state at the time are far more likely. It does not mean that is is not a crime, or I don’t think it deserving of punishment, but if you persist in obfuscating the actual nature of the charges that Epstein pled guilty to I am going to point out a not irrelevant fact: Epstein pled guilty to soliciting prostitution from girls who were NOT under 16.

    Furthermore, the level of resources that Epstein (his philanthropic donations ran at 20 million a year) would have brought to bear if he had been charged with offences against far younger girls to put him in prison for a whole life term, is something those prosecutors and jurists quoted for his deal being an excessively sweet one are not taking into account. In reality, no prosecutor wants to lose a case and they have to prove it, which is a lot more difficult than quoting detectives in Miami . The witnesses by the time of the investigation were women in their twenties many with serious drug problems and the legal troubles that go with it. There was not the “discovery” problem for the defence, Epstein’s private investigators had damaging background information and details that that cast doubt on their stories. Already two on the accusers being prominently quoted in the media have already had to up their age at the time to 16. Can you imagine what that would it would have done to the case if he had pleaded not guilty, the witnesses had given sworn testimony and then been caught out by a defence attorney in lots of details. Even with the plea deal, subjecting the victims to cross examination would have likely reduced the punishment he got. The charges he pled guilty describes the girls as prostitutes remember, as do the new ones.

    Finally, the girls got paid compensation which in total amounted to tens of millions. So they were happy with the outcome of the plea deal. The cops and journalists were not. The authorities are appealing for new victims to come forward, and of course every girl he paid for sex and some he never met are now going to say they were a victim. He is going to spend the rest of his life in prison and his 800 mil fortune will instantly disappear as hundreds of women claim to have been his under age victim decades ago. He is guilty of much no doubt, but where is the impunity here?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  84. Sean says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    Epstein is going to prison for the rest of his life in any plea bargain he could get now. He will have to fight the charges. Unless, the Feds are out to get Dershowitz for his criticism of the Mueller investigation. Epstein as the public target and Dershowitz as the real target? But no, the establishment loves Trump. And it is mere coincidence that lawyer David Boies who is representing the only one of the victims to accuse Dershowitz , Clinton and Prince Andrew plus unnamed other of equal stature (and who lied about her age falsely claiming to be 15 when she was at least 17 at the time) happens to hate Dershowitz.

  85. Sean says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Atzmon is anti Israel, but it sometimes seems he think Israel an example of how all nation states are illegitimate when they look out for themselves. He does not like humanity as they are.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  86. MrTea says:

    Just a couple things in hopes of clarifying issues raised in posts below:

    The ADL–headed by an Obama admin official–denies there was a genocide in Ukraine under the Bolsheviks and reflexively allies with characters like Omar, Tlaib and Co. They team up with the CAIR types to screech in unison about “Islamophobia”. They are apparently OK with Obama’s “Iran Deal” some of their favored politicians sing the praises of, while ignoring ominous evidence like the Holocaust Denial conference that was held in Iran (US readers may have been informed of this only by way of David Duke’s attendance).

    Today Michael Savage in the 2nd hour of his show interviewed Daniel Greenfield from David Horowitz’ Freedom Center–he quoted statements by police officials who witnessed the sequence of events prior to the Acosta-Epstein deal. They point to the local DA Krischer (?) who wanted to let the whole case go with no charges at all. Some elaboration here

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/10/jeffrey-epstein-acosta-krischer/

    as the media bigs have all fled the scene of asking anything about this DA (Laura Ingraham did find a statement by the then-police chief to this effect) I would suggest this is probably another episode of the “dog that did not bark”–look to the relationships of this DA to explain how this thing wound up the way it did. Why did the feds have to get involved at all?

  87. @Parisian Guy

    ‘…nude underage cheeseburgers.’

    That sounds suspiciously like they’re undercooked. I hate undercooked hamburgers.

  88. @Sean

    ‘Please sit down, I am going to tell you something that will come as a shock…’

    What you are not telling me is the answer to my questions. Why are you insistently defending Epstein; minimizing the significance and severity of his crimes?

    • Replies: @Sean
  89. @Parisian Guy

    Too hypothetical. I always wanting to be born a viking. I work in with heavy metals and I am a small female. I like physical strength.

  90. @Sean

    Atzmon is a deranged Jew, that pedals Jew hatred disguised as momo jumbo philosophy.

  91. @abbybwood

    …Waayyy better than the OJ trial, cause nobody dies with Epstein. Their lives are destroyed in many different ways and powerful international men of mystery may get their comeuppance. But this would be just the type of TV titillation the American people crave for! Better than anything on Netflix or HBO for sure! Especially the way Epstein mad dogs the women while they testify. Good stuff.’

    Now, when we don’t get it, time to think about why we don’t.

    Fran Taubman notwithstanding, I think were getting what coverage we are getting in spite of Epstein being Jewish, not because of it.

    It’s not some sinister plot; it’s just that there are a lot of Jews in the media — and they’re all less than enthusiastic about keel-hauling a fellow member of the tribe. Then too, a lot of the gentiles will have a little yellow light flashing, ‘would it sound anti-semitic if I put it that way?’

    So Epstein is going to get measured, circumspect coverage.

    If this guy was some alt-Right gentile white, the media would be going nuts with this stuff — can you imagine it?

    But he’s not, so we’ll get ‘just the facts, ma’ am’ — and only if they’re not too juicy.

  92. @Fran Taubman

    ‘Too hypothetical. I always wanting to be born a viking. I work in with heavy metals and I am a small female. I like physical strength.’

    I find it significant that you evade the question. Perhaps you feel that being Jewish is indeed a reason to feel superior — but are shy about saying so?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  93. @Colin Wright

    You find it significant really Colin, good for you.
    You must be bored to think that my no answer is significant.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  94. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    Your style is always to ask for much clarification and each inquiry contains many questions, which you always complain I (and others) have not answered at all. I try and answer honestly as best I can, but misunderstandings are cleared up by everyone going on living rather than explanations. Epstein will be the only one convicted in this new prosecution, and that prediction is my answer.

    These are the comments to Mr Gatzmon’s post, and he chose to call Epstein a paedo. Sixteen year olds could get married in Florida at the time of the plea deal, and Epstein did not plead guilty to having sex with girls under the age of 16 years old. When Traci Lords was making adult films at 16, they were outselling her nearest rival 10:1. Rupert Murdoch’s empire was based on the Sun newspaper, which overtook the Mirror as the UK’s most popular tabloid by having a giant picture of a 16 year old girl exposing her breasts on page three every day. For all I know, Epstein drew the line at girls he could have legally married. The woman talking about these VIPs, the only one, misrepresented her age at the time by two years and did not originally mention anyone but Epstein. She is not being used as a witness in the New York case because she has already been caught out in too many untruths, and the judge would have been forced to tell the jury that all her evidence was tainted. A good principle.

    Initially in the Miami case they tried to get him on a law against grooming underage girls, and then the Mann Act, but there were problems with both those because he did not use the internet or take girls across state lines. The assertion that a prosecution of Epstein for a huge number of sex offences including ones against girls under the age of 16 was a slam dunk is dubious. It is far from clear that someone with the resources of Epstein (who was giving away 20 million dollars a year to science) would plead guilty to a slew of serious offences that would have put him in prison for decades, which would have been a virtual whole life term for a man in his fifties. He might have won, and those who say otherwise have absolutely no experience in putting away a man of his bank balance on the word of under age prositutes none of who had complained at the time, many of whom had legal and drug problems, and were by then in their twenties. Also. the compensation was in doubt if it went to trial, and these ladies wanted to take it to the bank.

    Cops and journalists and carping outsiders figures did not get any of the tens of millions in compensation that Epstein paid out as part of admitting guilt, the victims did. Most cases end up with a plea to reduced charges. Now as a result of newspaper stories that imply Epstein must have had had some high level influence at work on his behalf and the legal system failed, it is going to make an example of him. He is facing new charges that relate to the same period as the old charges, and prosecutors actually made a public appeal for anyone who thinks they were victimised to contact them. Free money! There will be a stampede and Epstein’s fortune is probably already all spoken for. He is a registered, a self admitted, sex offender against under-age girls No one, judge or jury, is going to take his word now. So he will never see the outside again unless he lives to be a very old man, and even then he will be on the street with a tin cup. By then he will understand, if he does not already, that great wealth and supposed influence is double edged sword, because it gives people something to create an interesting story about. Taking prosaic reality and spinning a fablulous narrative from it is a very human tendency.

  95. @Sean

    ‘Your style is always to ask for much clarification and each inquiry contains many questions…’

    This is a strange assertion. Both my posts in this dialogue have each contained one question.

    Twice, you have refused to answer it. Very well, from among the possibilities I saw, I think that you’re a Zionist of the ‘I’m not a Zionist but,’ school.

    This strengthens my suspicion that Epstein blackmails people — and blackmails them on behalf of Israel. If you thought the same, you would be moved to minimize the severity and significance of Epstein’s crimes.

    As you are. Of course, I could be wrong. Feel free to correct me.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Sean
  96. @Fran Taubman

    ‘You find it significant really Colin, good for you.
    You must be bored to think that my no answer is significant.’

    Hm. Well, your continued evasiveness on the point implies my surmise is correct. You do think Jews are superior to gentiles.

    The irony here is that in one respect they are. On average, Ashkenazim have a higher IQ than gentiles.

    However, those are only averages. They don’t demonstrate anything about you in particular. I wouldn’t take too much pride in it, if I were you.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  97. @Colin Wright

    I do not have an above average IQ, I do however have a powerful intellect and am considered exceptional creative. Also Ashkenazi traits. I think most Ashkenazi types are creative as well as smart. It is a powerful combo. But as you can see I do not write or spell well. My work is in importance collections around the world.

    I do not think I am superior, and I think it is,a curse to be born Jewish. What a quagmire.
    as I said earlier I would have preferred to be a viking. So I will take any Jewish trait associated with exceptionalism that I can get to fight the onslaught of racism against the Jews. Being Jewish does not get you ahead in many fields.
    I am an artist a field dominated by men. How many well know female artist/designers are there in the world. How could I feel superior. I am lucky I can support myself with my art.
    Life is dog fight for everyone, except racist who get to pick and choose the whys of life’s difficulty and blame it on those not like themselves. Most racist are losers.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  98. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    The ball is in your court to explain why you think Epstein has any connection with Israel intelligence. Your well worn tactic of open ended questions about the motivation of whoever you are talking to is not supplying any enlightenment as to your reasons for thinking a hedonistic wealthy science philanthropist having sex with under age trailer trash and managing to get caught by a couple of donut scoffing redneck detectives was actually working for Mossad as part of a plot to control international politics.

  99. ‘The ball is in your court to explain why you think Epstein has any connection with Israel intelligence…”

    Oh that’s easy. Note that I merely described it as my ‘suspicion.’

    So here’s the basis for my suspicion. First off, the whole operation is exactly the sort of filthy, utterly despicable thing an agent of Israel would do. Second, it would appear he was blackmailing somebody: his fortune utterly lacks any visible foundation. Third, his associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, is the daughter of an infamous Zionist. Fourth, his only known ‘investor’ — Wexler or whoever it is — is also a notorious Zionist. Fifth, a Jewish D.A. in Miami originally tried to bury the whole thing with probation. Finally, the most prominent of his other associates — Dershowitz and Bill Clinton — are also leading servants of Israel.

    If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it may well be a duck.

    Don’t you think? And you’re probably a Zionist.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  100. @Fran Taubman

    I said, ‘Hm. Well, your continued evasiveness on the point implies my surmise is correct. You do think Jews are superior to gentiles.’

    You avoided responding. Your prerogative, of course — but you can see that I can surmise the answer.

  101. @Colin Wright

    Oh yeah.

    ‘It also emerged last week that Epstein invested millions in a deal with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Barak acknowledged to the Daily Beast that he, like other world leaders, visited Epstein’s Island and that he was first introduced to Epstein by Shimon Peres, former Israeli prime minister and president.’

    So add two former premiers of Israel to the list. One tiny country, representing a tenth of one percent of humanity. What are the odds?

    • Replies: @Sean
  102. utu says:

    Pieczenik has no doubts that Epstein was a part and center of important Mossad operation.

  103. Lol. It just gets worse.

    ‘…Ehud Barak, head of Israeli Democratic Party, was caught on camera entering the Manhattan townhouse of Jeffery Epstein with his face hidden, on the same day that a large group of women were seen entering the sex offender’s home, the Daily News reported Tuesday…’

    Nothing here. Move along.

  104. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    Astounding, what an idiot.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7250009/Netanyahu-challenger-Ehud-Barak-hides-face-enters-entering-Jeffrey-Epsteins-mansion.html

    While that may be evidence that elite Ashkenazi Israeli politicians are as unthinking in pursuit of easy money as young women from the margins of society were in Miami a dozen years ago, it is hardly evidence of a Mossad operation. One cannot think of a revelation more likely to destroy Israel’s reputation than its greatest living politicians being associated with Epstein. Involving them in any way with Epstein and under age pimping is far fetched. The idea that after the court case it would not be authorised to continue in such a high profile way is inconceivable.

    Anyone suggesting using Barak to run Epstein in 2016 would be placed on medical leave and investigated to see what they had been up getting up to. Government agencies are very careful about that kind of thing. Just because you work at the IRS investigative department, that does not mean you can open a file on the tax affairs of the Clintons or Bush. Partisan domestic politics would run wild otherwise.The idea that Mossad would use Barak in this way with Epstein after he became the Western world’s most notorious sex offender, and shortly after the 2015 Miami newspaper investigation re-focused attention on him is preposterous.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Anonymous
  105. @Sean

    For all I know, Epstein drew the line at girls he could have legally married.

    All the necessary links have been given, which demonstrate the falsity of this statement. Everything is in the Miami Herald website, and you know that, since several days ago. Therefore, you are not allowed to allegue that you don’t know more than you pretend to.

    Conversely, there is not one media peddling your fiction. Therefore, how did you learn your “all I know”. There is only two possibilities:
    -either you made it up. You have no sources, but sames than ours, which you distort.
    -either your “sources” are afraid to to speak publicly. How is it?

    In any of both cases, what was the probability that, by the pure random effect of luck, your fiction/version would turn out to be identical to the one of the Epstein’s lawyers?
    It is zero. And you cannot have borrowed it elsewhere, because no media, no blogger, ever dared to publicize this fiction.

    Therefore, you are linked to the Epstein’s lawyers. Nevertheless, it is not realistic that they would have planted by advance, in unzreview comments section, someone like you. On the other side, it is almost certain that, a long time ago, the hasbara did, for whatever purpose.

    Therefore, to make it short: you are, by your behavior here, a living cue of the Epstein-Mossad link.

  106. @Fran Taubman

    Sure, it’s hypothetical. Well, my question will be a litle bit convoluted, in order to make more clear that it is not about comparing people:

    Let’s imagine you were born a viking. In that case, can you also imagine you would be able to have an opinion about yourself which satisfy your self-pride?

  107. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Parisian Guy

    I still do not really understand what you are after because to be it is obvious. I am a world class artist I would take pride in myself no matter to what. I am driven to be great.
    I mean your question makes no sense. I can not know if it would be any different. I work harder to be great being French would be better then being Jewish and or female. The deck is stacked against me.

  108. @Sean

    ‘While that may be evidence that elite Ashkenazi Israeli politicians are as unthinking in pursuit of easy money as young women from the margins of society were in Miami a dozen years ago…’

    This is peculiar.

    Are you suggesting that Epstein was paying Barak for sex?

    Was Barak (yet another Zionist Jew) just taking advantage of Epstein’s legendary (but invisible) investment prowess? It was purely coincidental that both are members of a particular segment of a cult practiced by a grand total of one fifth of one percent of humanity? Everyone involved in this is a dedicated servant of Israel. What are the odds?

    I don’t suppose it’s in the cards that Barak was yet another Zionist being allowed to dip his wick in especially young and degraded gentile flesh? That wouldn’t have anything to do with all this?

    I’m happy to sort it all out. Would you like to join us in clearing away the cobwebs and arriving at some clear picture of what was going on here?

    At the moment, the more lurid hypotheses here are starting to look like some kind of modern version of Toaff’s Blood Passover. Bizarre, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Sean
  109. But wait! This just in!

    Somebody found a clip of Donald Trump socializing with Jeffrey Epstein at a party in 1992!

    I wonder if the whole ploy here is to make the Epstein thing go away by passing it off as yet another ineffectual attempt to smear Trump.

  110. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Robert Maxwell was involved in all sorts of dodgy activities, yet also turned out to be a Mossad operative/asset.

  111. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why was Ehud Barak wearing blue eye makeup, and wearing a wig and a woman’s jacket?

    Ehud Barak is notorious in Israel for his enthusiasm in making money by lending his name as consultant to Swiss banks, medical marijuana companies ect ect. I think Barak went to Epstein because Epstein was willing to pay to be associated with someone like Barak. I think it is clear Epstein made a big mistake. Instead of a superannuated Israeli ex PM and Mossad chief turned clown in a scarf, he should have paid off all the girls, and made generous donations to charities. He had the money. israeli who want to succeed (in business or as ethical paragons) must leave Israel , which is too full of competitive Jews.

    One thing that Epstein could not have foreseen is the Florida detective that investigated the case Epstein thought he had got out of developed a terminal disease. One can imagine how the detective felt about withering away with Epstein sitting in the biggest mansion in Manhattan surrounded by choice barely legal babes. This never happened to Sonny Crockett. He really went after Epstein in a 2015 interview just before passing away, saying there were all there victims not mentioned in the court case, and he was frightened Epstein had hired thugs to attack his family, which was largely exaggeration I suspect. The reporters had an unimpeachable source, and then all the call for Epstein to be got grew inexorably. That cop getting ill was the begining of all Epstein’s troubles.

    The thing is everyone knows lone detectives up against sinister billionaires, or special forces and intelligence operators turned mercenaries who doing his bidding from the movies, so they create a world like the entertainment they enjoy watching. Meanwhile back in the real world Barak is making fool of himself with a wooly, a detective with a family does not live to collect his pension due to natural causes, and Epstein is never going to see the sky again.

  112. Everybody looking to the dailymail article with an unbiased mind can understand these points:
    1) the daylymail belongs to the cheap tabloid press.
    2) Barak was obviously trying to hide his face. The weather was not as cold as he allegues. The proof is in the clothing of his security gard.
    3) The daily mail allegations, about girls entering the Epstein’s house, are actually very dubious because:
    a) From the four displayed picture, there is not one of a girl entering the house.
    b) They most probably only are young and pretty women passing by the sidewalk near the Epstein’s entrance. It is possible to shoot a lot of similar photos everywhere and anytime in upperscale Manhattan.
    c) There is no cue of the timing of these photos. Furthermore, if one accurately looks at the stains on the wall stones in the backgrond, there is enough differences that one can doubt the photos were shot in the same epoch.

    There is a mud fight going between Barak and Bibi. On the opposite of what allegues SuperLiar, each one of both men is well able to damage Israël reputation in the course of this fight; Just remember the release of the recording of Bibi’s son chatting with his buds about their performances in the brothel, and about Bibi’s corruption.
    In this fight, anything will be thrown, the most faked as well as the truth. It doesn’t matter what it is truly worthwhile, as long as it is effective in that war.
    Therefore, since bullshit ant truth are interspesed, we must be aware and sort it out.

  113. @Parisian Guy

    I still do not really understand what you are after because to be it is obvious. I am a world class artist I would take pride in myself no matter to what. I am driven to be great.
    I mean your question makes no sense. I can not know if it would be any different. I work harder to be great being French would be better then being Jewish and or female. The deck is stacked against me.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  114. @Fran Taubman

    I just wanted you to think about that “obvious”. Therefore, like anybody, you practically don’t need to be Jewish. You can decide to stop and be satisfied to only be what you practically are.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  115. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda Rice"] says:
    @Parisian Guy

    makes no sense, as writing or thought your whole premise of to be or not to be.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  116. @Fran Taubman

    You mean that life would not have sense, if you were not Jewish. Isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  117. ariadna says:

    Atzmon’s target here is BBC. He claims that BBC, being controlled by the Jewish lobby, is not a trustworthy news network. That is patently false.
    It pains me to see that his critics on this comment thread are so blatanty inept at making this point– and I say it despite the fact that I have a soft spot for one of them, Fran Taubman (were you cruelly bullied in school, Fran, by kids who knew that “Taub” means deaf/stupid in German?). I find her obduracy touching. Below are two samples of the semi-illiterate “criticism” of Atzmon. (No, Fran, Atzmon does not “pedal” much, although ti would be good flor his health.)

    Sean says:
    July 16, 2019 at 8:41 am GMT
    Atzmon is anti Israel, but it sometimes seems he think Israel an example of how all nation states are illegitimate when they look out for themselves. He does not like humanity as they are.

    Fran Taubman says:
    July 16, 2019 at 4:25 pm GMT
    @Sean
    Atzmon is a deranged Jew, that pedals Jew hatred disguised as momo jumbo philosophy.
    —————————————————————-
    Why is Atzmon’s misrepresentation of BBC truly so blatantly false?
    Because it claims that the Jews that control it degraded it into a propaganda tool to serve their interests. I say the opposite is true. The Jews brought to it a much keener insight and uncommon visionary acumen they use to analyse the present and predict the future. In fact, having studied philosophy, Atzmon should know that for jews time is not linear, not an “arrow,” but circular, so that the past (real or imagined) is forever present. Can Atzmon name any other network that was capable of reporting the collapse of Building #7 some 20 minutes before it occurred? Has he failed to understand the awsomness significance of it? Sadly, it seems so. Lay off BBC, Atzmon.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  118. @ariadna

    That is sweet. I guess you fancy yourself a superior intellect by your description of my comment as being barely literate, but you have a warm spot for me, like a dwarf. I am a visual artist so writing is down on my talent list.
    I wanted to point out that my critique of Gilad is more holistic then this one article about the BBC, which I really know very little about being an American.

    Gilad is unique in that he couches his Jew hatred is a philosophical cloud that protects him from the hayseed right winged Jew hatred, the garden variety.
    He pretends to have an intellectual bent although fading with these myriad Epstein tabloid pieces.

    The most pernicious of his claims is that anti semitism is baked into the structure and origins of Judaism, specifically the biblical “God’s Chosen” which he interprets as racist and suprematism.
    He takes this to the ends of the earth dedicated to casting shade on every Jew he can find, regardless or even in spite of worse behavior by others.

    He doesn’t care how racist he is and to that I think he is just emotionally off. He squirms that Jewish behavior produces racism. The people that follow him on FB and here are not intellectual, and are the worst conspiratorial theorist I have ever seen. They complain that the Jews have caused every illness and war in the world. The parasite of parasites. He dances with the most irrational of this group entertaining them all the while claiming he has no hatred of Jews only some Jewish behavior. I really detest the duplicity of his cause.

    He neither denies or accepts the Holocaust as being factual.
    You are judged by the people you hang out with, and he will go for the jugular of a Jew over the total scum bags of his fans.
    I apologize in advance for my spelling.

  119. @Rabbitnexus

    Re-unit472 who says: ” If you are Prince Andrew, a billionaire or an ex POTUS do your really need the services of Epstein and Maxwell to get laid- even by a teeny bopper?” (end quote)
    Eh? These weren’t some older young adults having a crush on some dishy slightly older rock or pop-star! These were under-aged children, From my own (& my friends) re-collections of that age,most would be repulsed by these much older men (and at 30yrs these even were considered old to us at that age)So i reckon some luring into a trap (using the woman/madam &BTW why isn’t she arrested too?) may have been required, and it could have happened to any of us as many have dreams of attaining the heights in some career at that age, along come the madam carrying the golden platter offering a chance to get started.
    But when stuck there, would i could imagine b terrifying for these kids, perhaps they were fearful their lives would be in danger if trying to escape or some were desperate for cash, struggling without help from a family, but stuck in a trap they were & i congratulate each & every one of them who has had the courage to come forward to speak of their ordeals at the hands of these rotten people

  120. #RobertMueller is in the dock today regarding his “Collusion Report” having to answer questions regarding Donald Trump’s impeachment investigation!

    It is strange that at Bush Sr Funeral envelopes were handed out to Jeb Bush et al – then suddenly, a few days later the Mueller Investigation comes to an abrupt end!

    Apparently, the #JeffreyEpsteinSaga revelations were in those envelopes & it appears that the INFO* was so damningly damaging that Mueller was told to halt his investigation into Trump knowing that the GUY* is a complete #LooseCannon & only God knows what this guy would do in office given he has the #NuclearLaunchCodes!!!

    #StayTuned 4 more dark revelations that will embroil Trump sooner than later!!!

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