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Dear Mexican: I have a few questions for all your Mexican columnists. Why is it so wrong for Americans to expect people from other countries to follow our laws when entering this country? What reason do you have that should make Mexicans entering this country illegally okay? Secondly, why aren’t you as concerned about the way immigrants from let’s say, El Salvador, are treated as they are making their way to America through Mexico. I was married to someone who made this trip and I got to hear about the atrocities committed by the Mexican people against foreign immigrants just passing through your country. Rape, murder, and incarceration are commonplace. But yet you complain because Americans simply want immigrants to follow our laws? There is nothing worse than hypocrisy. This country spends BILLIONS of dollars every year on people that come here illegally!!! Our tax dollars!!!

There’s a reason that there is a process in place for people to enter this country. The reason is simple. If it’s not done properly, it will cause problems fit people here in America!!! Why is this so difficult for you to understand? Donald Trump is winning for a reason. He is speaking out what the American people are feeling inside!!! America isn’t in a position to be the godfather for every failing country in the world anymore! We need to focus on the condition of this country for a while and get things back to where they need to be.

Lastly, I would like to comment on the cover image OC Weekly used of a donkey fucking Donald Trump. I think it’s totally uncouth, and tasteless. It shows exactly why your magazine is given out for free. How about drawing a picture of Vicente Fox violating the entire Mexican population? If the Mexican government wasn’t worthless and corrupt, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion!!! Because then the Mexican people would stay in Mexico!!! But the truth of the matter is that Mexico, for the most part, sucks as a country!!! Instead of demeaning our political system, why don’t you go fix Mexico‘s? That’s what I think is so hilarious about seeing Mexicans in America sporting the Mexican flag, and yelling about how proud they are to be Mexican. But yet they don’t have any problem coming to America and reaping the benefits of this society that’s supposedly so terrible. It’s insanity.

Anyway, I would like to say thank you for putting your paper out for one reason only. It works great in the bottom of my cat’s litterbox, and it’s free!!! I highly doubt my comment will be addressed or put into your trash mag, but I’m giving you permission to if you see fit.

Newt Me!

Dear Gabacho: You want to talk hypocrisies? Everything you trashed Mexicans for supposedly doing, you could do the same to your (presumably) Salvadoran ex-wife and your immigrant ancestors: the border-hopping, the not staying in her country to improve it, the trashing of other immigrants. But as usual, gabachos excuse everyone except Mexicans for everything. And forget hypocrisies: how about stupidities? Everyone knows OC Weekly is best used as compost, because it’ll fuel your garden with truth. But, hey: Trumpbros like you seem to hate the truth, so keep wallowing in your cat’s shit.

 

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    Father of Anton Chigurh (from the man who made To Kill a Mockingbird)

    Uncle of Anton Chigurh

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  2. Excellent questions for you to show your intellectual gifts and you do it **

    Why am I surprised **

    At the head of Mr. Arellano, all american, read: red skin, is a rich man who wants cheap labor and explore the Mexican worker, while in fact, most Americans’ garbachos’ ‘(I wonder if it is a pet name or name-calling) are PEOPLE and as usually happens, most of the PEOPLE, are conformist, living in a puissant financial condition as the American or as the Mexican situation, too lazy and mentally common to fight for their rights of perfectionist way. Most real Americans do not want mass immigration, but most tend to accept what their elites have imposed them for a while, while you can get away from the pernicious effects of this kind of stupid attitude. See white flight.

    White flight speaks more than votes or any other attitude of Caucasians autochthonous (or not, soon in East Asia) and also of any other group that is more cognitively intelligent or morally decent (read: non-violent) and feel fear of changes that are occurring in your neighborhood, see African immigrants, Indians and Chinese in the UK, for example.

    Even the leftist idiots, most of them also end up abandoning properly vibrant neighborhoods, for obvious reasons, while these demented continue holding their suicidal cult only in the comfort of a safe neighborhood.

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  3. “You want to talk hypocrisies? Everything you trashed Mexicans for supposedly doing, you could do the same to your (presumably) Salvadoran ex-wife and your immigrant ancestors: the border-hopping, the not staying in her country to improve it, the trashing of other immigrants.”

    I should have thought the part in which most immigrant ancestors of non-Mexican Americans actually came to America legally was a significant difference.

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    And unlike most Mexicans, they actually made the country a better place.
  4. Gustavo, yet again you have engaged in the tactic of “deflection.” “Newt Me” didn’t make excuses for his ex-wife’s actions.

    You didn’t speak to his very valid points. I may have said it before but I wish that you and other’s like you would just come out and admit the truth: You know that all of the various complaints about illegal immigration are entirely valid. You know that Mexico, in particular, is extremely hypocritical on this issue, having severe laws & penalties for illegally entering Mexico. You know that illegal aliens cost the U.S. a huge amount of money, depress wages and degrade quality-of-life in different ways. You know that our taxes, insurance-rates and crime-rates are higher because of illegal aliens. You know that a life-boat can only hold so many people and that when you add X-plus-one *everyone* drowns. You know all this *but* *you* *just* *don’t* *care*.

    In 1990 I had been off of active-duty for eleven years but was serving in the army reserve. I was contacted and asked if I’d be willing to be mobilized, that is to say returned to active duty. A reserve unit that was being deployed to the Gulf had a vacancy for my MOS. Because my reserve unit itself wasn’t being mobilized they couldn’t force me to go. I was married (to a bipolar shrew) and had two sons, ages 1.5 and 3.5. I had something to live for. But there was no way that I could refuse this request and be able to think of myself as a man or look at myself in the mirror. I went. It turned out to be a very one-sided war, in our favor, but none of us knew that before the shooting started. (As an aside, my father, may he rest in peace, served in the navy, in the Pacific, during WWII; he enlisted within two weeks of turning 17).

    Five years later I was going through a prolonged, messy, expensive and very painful divorce. I was not in good shape and my performance at work began to reflect that. My supervisor’s supervisor “called me on the carpet” and informed me that I wasn’t performing adequately. He alluded that part of the blame lay with my supervisor. I said, “I would like to say that Craig is in no way responsible for any deficiencies in my work performance.” Morris paused and a look came over his face. He acknowledged my point and conveyed his respect. I got it together and last year became fully-vested and eligible to retire.

    You see, Gustavo, that’s what a *man* does. When his generation’s war comes along he does what *has* to be done. When he’s “called on the carpet” for poor performance he doesn’t become defensive and make excuses—he doesn’t engage in “deflection.” That is why I hold you and the rest of your ilk in such *utter* *contempt*. You’re dishonest and you don’t have the guts to just come out and admit the truth: You don’t care how much America is harmed by illegal immigration, you just want as many of “your” people in here as possible, bleeding the American taxpayer white.

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  5. Let’s simply copy the immigration policies of Mexico.

    Problem solved.

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  6. But seriously Mexican,

    Why do immigrants support a party who wants to import MORE immigrants to take their jobs and govt benefits ?

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    I used to think Gustavo was just trolling us but now I’m thinking he’s secretly a white Trumpster…

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    Your error is to confuse or conflate settlers with immigrants, especially from centuries ago. It is an oranges and apples comparison. The modern day immigrant endures none of the hardships sixteenth, seventeenth ,eighteenth, etc., century settlers did.

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    • Replies: @guanaca
    you mean the slaves, I presume
    , @in the middle
    Anon,

    you are so wrong! They die in the deserts of AZ and Calif, in order to arrive here! I guess we can see it both ways, we do have a wonderful place where the whole world is trying to get here, and at the same time we can see it as an invasion by the whole world.

    But some how most miss the point, I believe that the true problem that we have is an invasion of a different kind. Try to shop american made products, just try. WE were invaded while ago by imports so horrible, that now a day we can't purchase an american product, made in the good USA. that is the problem and not people who come here as productive people. I have not problem with them coming to work in the fields where I am for sure not going to be working at. Be my guess, and pick up the produce I purchase in costco, please be my guess, otherwise I believe we are condemning the wrong group of people. We need to see where our principal problem is, and that is not the field worker, but corporations who shipped our jobs all the way to Asia, and now they flooded our country with their products leaving us without good jobs to look for. WAKE UP!
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    @random observer
    "You want to talk hypocrisies? Everything you trashed Mexicans for supposedly doing, you could do the same to your (presumably) Salvadoran ex-wife and your immigrant ancestors: the border-hopping, the not staying in her country to improve it, the trashing of other immigrants."



    I should have thought the part in which most immigrant ancestors of non-Mexican Americans actually came to America legally was a significant difference.

    And unlike most Mexicans, they actually made the country a better place.

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  10. Hello every one.

    Sooooooo much hate and animosity! Can we just get along? I also served and retired after 22 yrs in the service, and after seeing other places, and people so poor and hopeless, i am so glad we still have this Nation, so let me propose something to all the haters out there. Lets get together, and rebuild what this Country needs rebuild, and for those anti Mexicans out there, please they are waiting for you in the San Joaquin valley to pick up 2/3rs of the produce we consume in the USA yearly, go ahead, they are waiting for you. Otherwise, I recommend you hush up, and go on with your personal business instead. Most people just type hate behind a desk, and do not know the real world, since their information comes either from FX news, or other MSM. Go out, get to know people, stop being a hermit, and your attitude will change, because at the end of the day, we all are humans, with same needs, and mostly likes. I am not saying that we want all people south of the border here, but I am saying that at the end of the day, we all need to feed our family, and to supply all our needs and if picking up veggies, and fruit does it, so be it.

    I will leave you with a biblical passage for those who still fallow their ancestors believes.

    ‘Cursed is he who distorts the justice due an alien, orphan, and widow.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’ Deuteronomy 27:19

    ‘When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong.” Leviticus 19:33

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    • Replies: @Discard
    I grew up in Los Angeles and lived there for decades. That IS the real world. There are two million Mexicans in that town, and none of them are picking lettuce. They are a blight.
    , @Jeff77450
    Tell all that to Kathryn Steinle's family and everyone else who has been on the receiving-end of crime committed by illegals.

    My wife & I were born & raised in working-class homes where there wasn't a lot of money for extras. I grew up on my parents', aunts' and uncles' stories of life during the Great Depression and I learned all the right lessons. This year we will gross ~$240K. We mow our own lawn and clean our own house. That attitude helped us get to a net-worth of ~$900K. "Squeeze a nickel till the buffalo screams."

    On the topic of harvesting crops I'd be fine with seasonal workers allowed in and then escorted out. Barring that, the increased cost of produce would be offset by the savings that resulted from the reduced strain on our healthcare, welfare, education and criminal justice systems. The cost of auto & home-owners insurance would likely decrease as well.

    A nation that doesn't have secure borders is not a nation. It is just not asking too much that people who want to come to the U.S. go through the legal immigration process and don't abuse the welfare-system.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/04/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare/

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=196

    http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/fbi-data-backs-up-trump-claims-on-illegals-and-crime/

    If they would go through the legal immigration process they might not be raped: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html
    , @interesting
    "since their information comes either from FX news, or other MSM"

    give me a fucking break, anyone who watches those fucking channels is completely misinformed.

    look, there's a lot of morons here but it's become apparent that way to many illegals are coming here for the free shit. As I've written here before there was a story about an older lady (she was Spanish speaking which doesn't necessarily mean Mexican) and they story was about how her food stamps were being cut and how difficult that was going to be for her. When it came to her history it turned out that she has been in the country 20 years, never had a job and didn't speak a lick of English.

    THAT IS A PROBLEM, we Americans can no longer afford this and the government is letting more just like her flood across the border. My largest monthly expense (unlike this lady) is taxes and I've not had a raise in 20 fucking years. Many of us are at the end of our rope, we simply can not afford this anymore, i know i can't.

    illegal immigration hurts legal immigrants, black and low paid workers already here the most.
  11. @in the middle
    Hello every one.

    Sooooooo much hate and animosity! Can we just get along? I also served and retired after 22 yrs in the service, and after seeing other places, and people so poor and hopeless, i am so glad we still have this Nation, so let me propose something to all the haters out there. Lets get together, and rebuild what this Country needs rebuild, and for those anti Mexicans out there, please they are waiting for you in the San Joaquin valley to pick up 2/3rs of the produce we consume in the USA yearly, go ahead, they are waiting for you. Otherwise, I recommend you hush up, and go on with your personal business instead. Most people just type hate behind a desk, and do not know the real world, since their information comes either from FX news, or other MSM. Go out, get to know people, stop being a hermit, and your attitude will change, because at the end of the day, we all are humans, with same needs, and mostly likes. I am not saying that we want all people south of the border here, but I am saying that at the end of the day, we all need to feed our family, and to supply all our needs and if picking up veggies, and fruit does it, so be it.

    I will leave you with a biblical passage for those who still fallow their ancestors believes.

    'Cursed is he who distorts the justice due an alien, orphan, and widow.' And all the people shall say, 'Amen.' Deuteronomy 27:19

    'When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong." Leviticus 19:33

    I grew up in Los Angeles and lived there for decades. That IS the real world. There are two million Mexicans in that town, and none of them are picking lettuce. They are a blight.

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    Discard:

    "Los Angeles" sounds like me saying 'I grew up in Mexico City, and there are millions of Mexicans there!" I hope you are kidding! for your information, Los Angeles, just by its name itself tells you who founded it, and who must be living there, all others not Mexicans are outsiders who moved there! For your information, several states were founded by Mexicans, oh my goodness, so much ignorance! I wonder what could be the response by me saying, 'I grew up in London, and there are millions of Britons there!"
    , @Stealth
    I find the Mexicans of Los Angeles to be decent enough people. They seem very friendly and agreeable. Unfortunately, they haven't kept the place up very well. Those sidewalks are filthy.

    Gustavo DID NOT answer the guy's question.
  12. Gustavo, I usually enjoy your column, but I agree with the other commenters. You didn’t answer the man’s question. My take on illegals is the same as the late Edward Abbey’s: send them back with a gun to overthrow the corrupt Mexican government.

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    • Replies: @in the middle
    I believe that the issue here is that most Americans of Mexican descend consider themselves 'Mexicans', which is wrong, you are not Mexicans, you are as Mexican as descendants of Europeans are Europeans! You are as American as the next, and forget about people calling you 'vendido'. that is wrong. My friends get upset when i mention the issue of 'divided families' actually, take your children with you! when they become old enough, they can come back to their country, if that is the problem, since as I said, they are as american as any other born in the good ol' USA!
  13. @in the middle
    Hello every one.

    Sooooooo much hate and animosity! Can we just get along? I also served and retired after 22 yrs in the service, and after seeing other places, and people so poor and hopeless, i am so glad we still have this Nation, so let me propose something to all the haters out there. Lets get together, and rebuild what this Country needs rebuild, and for those anti Mexicans out there, please they are waiting for you in the San Joaquin valley to pick up 2/3rs of the produce we consume in the USA yearly, go ahead, they are waiting for you. Otherwise, I recommend you hush up, and go on with your personal business instead. Most people just type hate behind a desk, and do not know the real world, since their information comes either from FX news, or other MSM. Go out, get to know people, stop being a hermit, and your attitude will change, because at the end of the day, we all are humans, with same needs, and mostly likes. I am not saying that we want all people south of the border here, but I am saying that at the end of the day, we all need to feed our family, and to supply all our needs and if picking up veggies, and fruit does it, so be it.

    I will leave you with a biblical passage for those who still fallow their ancestors believes.

    'Cursed is he who distorts the justice due an alien, orphan, and widow.' And all the people shall say, 'Amen.' Deuteronomy 27:19

    'When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong." Leviticus 19:33

    Tell all that to Kathryn Steinle’s family and everyone else who has been on the receiving-end of crime committed by illegals.

    My wife & I were born & raised in working-class homes where there wasn’t a lot of money for extras. I grew up on my parents’, aunts’ and uncles’ stories of life during the Great Depression and I learned all the right lessons. This year we will gross ~$240K. We mow our own lawn and clean our own house. That attitude helped us get to a net-worth of ~$900K. “Squeeze a nickel till the buffalo screams.”

    On the topic of harvesting crops I’d be fine with seasonal workers allowed in and then escorted out. Barring that, the increased cost of produce would be offset by the savings that resulted from the reduced strain on our healthcare, welfare, education and criminal justice systems. The cost of auto & home-owners insurance would likely decrease as well.

    A nation that doesn’t have secure borders is not a nation. It is just not asking too much that people who want to come to the U.S. go through the legal immigration process and don’t abuse the welfare-system.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/04/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare/

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=196

    http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/fbi-data-backs-up-trump-claims-on-illegals-and-crime/

    If they would go through the legal immigration process they might not be raped: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html

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    Jeff:

    Throughout my life, I found more Caucasians on welfare than any other ethnic group. I know, the Caucasians are also divided by ethnic groups for those of you out there. Germans, English, French, Irish, Italians, etc. So, now unless your name is Jose, you are 'non Hispanic' white. I guess all the whites migrated to the USA, forget the whites who went to Latin America, you are out of luck, since whites only come to the good USA, if your ancestors went south of the border, you are other than white! I laugh hard when I read "non-Hispanic' white. oxymoron, and totally beyond comprehension.
  14. @Discard
    I grew up in Los Angeles and lived there for decades. That IS the real world. There are two million Mexicans in that town, and none of them are picking lettuce. They are a blight.

    Discard:

    “Los Angeles” sounds like me saying ‘I grew up in Mexico City, and there are millions of Mexicans there!” I hope you are kidding! for your information, Los Angeles, just by its name itself tells you who founded it, and who must be living there, all others not Mexicans are outsiders who moved there! For your information, several states were founded by Mexicans, oh my goodness, so much ignorance! I wonder what could be the response by me saying, ‘I grew up in London, and there are millions of Britons there!”

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    • Replies: @Discard
    My point is that many of us who criticize immigration, contrary to your claim, know what we're talking about, having experienced it first hand. Furthermore, contra your suggestion, few of the many millions of Mexicans here are in agriculture, which is why there are two million of them in L.A.

    Is your argument that California is still Mexican territory after 168 years?

    Lastly, no states, or even cities, were founded by Mexicans. A number of towns, forts, and missions were established by Spaniards, and the Mexicans let many of them decline after kicking the Spanish out. California and Texas were revived by Americans.
    Oh my goodness, so much ignorance!
    , @Reg Cæsar
    ¿So the Indians who outnumbered the Mexicans 1000-1 in the Southwest don't count for mierda?
    , @Aguila1952
    don't deflect. how many millions of people populate LA proper and how many contribute positively to society and to the economy instead of committing crime, living off the underground, and double dipping off welfare?

    Who is it that built up LA from a bunch of "rancho's" to a metropolis? Hell, many of the immigrants may speak Spanish but they sure as hell cannot write or read in that language. They are sucker fish just being a drain on the economy and supporting their Democrat leaders.

    If they were to succeed in their "reconquista" after a short while of decay, nothing would work and CA would be like .... Mexico! Surprise surprise! It's what they know. It's what they recreate when they come to America. Because they don't know English, they don't want to be like the white man, they want to be comfortable with their Mexican ways ... and welfare allows them to do that without having to work.

    Now don't get me wrong. There are proud people who want to work, who are proud and independent, smart and aggressive, but many just take the easy way. They take and have so much, they send money back to their families back "home" because the economy there sucks. My forefathers came to America and worked the trades helping build America, served in the military and fought in it's wars, and were proud to be Americans. Immigrants today only have a chip on their shoulder, hold grievances for things in the past that did not happen to them, and think that life is not fair and that America "owes" them something. Well, I think that something is a good swift kick in the ass on the way back to Mexico.
  15. @Jeff77450
    Tell all that to Kathryn Steinle's family and everyone else who has been on the receiving-end of crime committed by illegals.

    My wife & I were born & raised in working-class homes where there wasn't a lot of money for extras. I grew up on my parents', aunts' and uncles' stories of life during the Great Depression and I learned all the right lessons. This year we will gross ~$240K. We mow our own lawn and clean our own house. That attitude helped us get to a net-worth of ~$900K. "Squeeze a nickel till the buffalo screams."

    On the topic of harvesting crops I'd be fine with seasonal workers allowed in and then escorted out. Barring that, the increased cost of produce would be offset by the savings that resulted from the reduced strain on our healthcare, welfare, education and criminal justice systems. The cost of auto & home-owners insurance would likely decrease as well.

    A nation that doesn't have secure borders is not a nation. It is just not asking too much that people who want to come to the U.S. go through the legal immigration process and don't abuse the welfare-system.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/04/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare/

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=196

    http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/fbi-data-backs-up-trump-claims-on-illegals-and-crime/

    If they would go through the legal immigration process they might not be raped: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html

    Jeff:

    Throughout my life, I found more Caucasians on welfare than any other ethnic group. I know, the Caucasians are also divided by ethnic groups for those of you out there. Germans, English, French, Irish, Italians, etc. So, now unless your name is Jose, you are ‘non Hispanic’ white. I guess all the whites migrated to the USA, forget the whites who went to Latin America, you are out of luck, since whites only come to the good USA, if your ancestors went south of the border, you are other than white! I laugh hard when I read “non-Hispanic’ white. oxymoron, and totally beyond comprehension.

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    • Replies: @Aguila1952
    "non-Hispanic white" is a government creation.
    , @Jeff77450
    Like Gustavo you have engaged in the tactic of deflection and haven't spoken to any of my very valid points. By Caucasians I'm guessing that you mean Caucasian American citizens. Since Caucasians are still the majority in the U.S. it would not be remarkable if they were the numerical majority of welfare-recipients. Breaking it down percentage-wise per group would likely reveal a different story.

    In any case, U.S. citizens on welfare and illegal aliens on welfare are two entirely different topics. The illegal alien isn't supposed to be here to begin with, let alone receiving benefits paid for by U.S. citizens.

    It's obvious to me that like Gustavo you couldn't care less about what the law says or who is harmed by illegal aliens. You just want as many of "your" people in the U.S. as possible and by any & all means necessary. I'm genuinely fond of my Celtic/Saxon/Anglo/Viking/Norman cousins in Canada but if they want to come to the U.S. I expect them to do so legally---and would be thoroughly disgusted with them if they came illegally and even more so if they were a burden on the U.S. taxpayer.
  16. Me personally believe that people should be kicked out of welfare regardless of skin color, after 6 months! I have not respect for welfare recipients who stay on welfare more than that. The system itself is rigged because the persons running the welfare system live off welfare recipients and vice versa. why? because if the welfare industry did not have people on welfare, then their job is in jeopardy, think again. so the only solution is to slowly terminate that system itself, and give the leaches 6 months to prepare to work like the rest of society and earn their living by themselves.

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  17. @in the middle
    Hello every one.

    Sooooooo much hate and animosity! Can we just get along? I also served and retired after 22 yrs in the service, and after seeing other places, and people so poor and hopeless, i am so glad we still have this Nation, so let me propose something to all the haters out there. Lets get together, and rebuild what this Country needs rebuild, and for those anti Mexicans out there, please they are waiting for you in the San Joaquin valley to pick up 2/3rs of the produce we consume in the USA yearly, go ahead, they are waiting for you. Otherwise, I recommend you hush up, and go on with your personal business instead. Most people just type hate behind a desk, and do not know the real world, since their information comes either from FX news, or other MSM. Go out, get to know people, stop being a hermit, and your attitude will change, because at the end of the day, we all are humans, with same needs, and mostly likes. I am not saying that we want all people south of the border here, but I am saying that at the end of the day, we all need to feed our family, and to supply all our needs and if picking up veggies, and fruit does it, so be it.

    I will leave you with a biblical passage for those who still fallow their ancestors believes.

    'Cursed is he who distorts the justice due an alien, orphan, and widow.' And all the people shall say, 'Amen.' Deuteronomy 27:19

    'When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong." Leviticus 19:33

    “since their information comes either from FX news, or other MSM”

    give me a fucking break, anyone who watches those fucking channels is completely misinformed.

    look, there’s a lot of morons here but it’s become apparent that way to many illegals are coming here for the free shit. As I’ve written here before there was a story about an older lady (she was Spanish speaking which doesn’t necessarily mean Mexican) and they story was about how her food stamps were being cut and how difficult that was going to be for her. When it came to her history it turned out that she has been in the country 20 years, never had a job and didn’t speak a lick of English.

    THAT IS A PROBLEM, we Americans can no longer afford this and the government is letting more just like her flood across the border. My largest monthly expense (unlike this lady) is taxes and I’ve not had a raise in 20 fucking years. Many of us are at the end of our rope, we simply can not afford this anymore, i know i can’t.

    illegal immigration hurts legal immigrants, black and low paid workers already here the most.

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    we Americans can no longer afford this....

    I worked just across the American side in the service, and noticed hundreds of Immigration officers stopping lots of border crossers, if that could be a word. Our Government is doing what it can, and it seems that you are not aware of the job the Government is doing. I understand your frustration with food stamp distribution. I get WIC monthly, which is not welfare, and was dressed down by a cashier in the food store, about getting 'food assistance from the Gov." I told her that I had spend 22 years serving my country in the military and it was non of her business about it'
    So yes, I actually agree with you that we cannot afford to support dirt bugs, who don not pay their share working and supporting the services provided. By the way, I would not mind if the welfare system was dismantled completely, may be then we would not have a problem like the one you inform us about.
  18. @in the middle
    Discard:

    "Los Angeles" sounds like me saying 'I grew up in Mexico City, and there are millions of Mexicans there!" I hope you are kidding! for your information, Los Angeles, just by its name itself tells you who founded it, and who must be living there, all others not Mexicans are outsiders who moved there! For your information, several states were founded by Mexicans, oh my goodness, so much ignorance! I wonder what could be the response by me saying, 'I grew up in London, and there are millions of Britons there!"

    My point is that many of us who criticize immigration, contrary to your claim, know what we’re talking about, having experienced it first hand. Furthermore, contra your suggestion, few of the many millions of Mexicans here are in agriculture, which is why there are two million of them in L.A.

    Is your argument that California is still Mexican territory after 168 years?

    Lastly, no states, or even cities, were founded by Mexicans. A number of towns, forts, and missions were established by Spaniards, and the Mexicans let many of them decline after kicking the Spanish out. California and Texas were revived by Americans.
    Oh my goodness, so much ignorance!

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    Discard:

    the Mexicans let many of them decline after kicking the Spanish out.

    kicking the Spaniards out! are you kidding? is like saying 'kicking the English out, when we became 'independent' The English were not kick out, they stayed and became 'Americans' just like the Spaniards became 'Mexicans' oh such ignorance! English and French became the Canadians, etc. just to prove a point to your some how lack of knowledge. There is not such thing as an American, per say, unless you are native american, but there are European american, Mexican american, African american if you want to be technical about it. so lets stop the non sense. BTW, there is not such a thing as a 'Mexican 'nationality, since the republic south of the border has hundreds of ethnic groups, and believe me, Europeans are a large group also, unless you are so lacking in knowledge to believe the 'whities' came to the USA only. That, should be the test of lack of knowledge.
  19. @Discard
    I grew up in Los Angeles and lived there for decades. That IS the real world. There are two million Mexicans in that town, and none of them are picking lettuce. They are a blight.

    I find the Mexicans of Los Angeles to be decent enough people. They seem very friendly and agreeable. Unfortunately, they haven’t kept the place up very well. Those sidewalks are filthy.

    Gustavo DID NOT answer the guy’s question.

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    Mexicans do not seem to have much personal animosity towards Whites, you're right. I've worked with them and taught them for many years. They tend to direct their violence against family and personal enemies or rival gangs. They'll steal your car and rob your house when you're gone, but they don't often beat up Whites for sport, like Blacks. But they do not sustain a civilization that Whites are willing to live in. Filthy sidewalks are only a small example of the decline they bring. Keeping a modern city running means millions of people doing their jobs right and on time, and not enough Mexicans can manage that.
  20. @Discard
    My point is that many of us who criticize immigration, contrary to your claim, know what we're talking about, having experienced it first hand. Furthermore, contra your suggestion, few of the many millions of Mexicans here are in agriculture, which is why there are two million of them in L.A.

    Is your argument that California is still Mexican territory after 168 years?

    Lastly, no states, or even cities, were founded by Mexicans. A number of towns, forts, and missions were established by Spaniards, and the Mexicans let many of them decline after kicking the Spanish out. California and Texas were revived by Americans.
    Oh my goodness, so much ignorance!

    Discard:

    the Mexicans let many of them decline after kicking the Spanish out.

    kicking the Spaniards out! are you kidding? is like saying ‘kicking the English out, when we became ‘independent’ The English were not kick out, they stayed and became ‘Americans’ just like the Spaniards became ‘Mexicans’ oh such ignorance! English and French became the Canadians, etc. just to prove a point to your some how lack of knowledge. There is not such thing as an American, per say, unless you are native american, but there are European american, Mexican american, African american if you want to be technical about it. so lets stop the non sense. BTW, there is not such a thing as a ‘Mexican ‘nationality, since the republic south of the border has hundreds of ethnic groups, and believe me, Europeans are a large group also, unless you are so lacking in knowledge to believe the ‘whities’ came to the USA only. That, should be the test of lack of knowledge.

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    • Replies: @Discard
    Just as Loyalists and Royal officials and their families were expelled from the newly independent American colonies, the Mexicans expelled their Spanish rulers, officials, and those who served them. In California, for example, they kicked out the Franciscans and let the missions fall apart. Yankees, such as John Bidwell, Abel Sterns, and Jonathan Temple were welcomed by Californio landowners for their ability to establish and operate ranches on the abandoned mission lands. Oh, such ignorance on your part!

    Your knowledge of American history, including the Southwest, is as limited as your English writing skill.

    Let me guess. You served 22 years in the U.S. Navy as a Filipino mess boy?
    , @Wally
    You are wrong to claim that Mexicans were in the ‘South West” (Southwest) way before us Nordics (Euro-Americans) arrived.

    These ‘Mexicans’ immigrants (Meso-Americans) are descendants of the Aztecs, Mayans and Zapotecs (among others), who never set foot north of the Rio Grande.

    The Mexican-American war (that ‘stole’ Mexico) was a fight between two imperial, European-derived powers. White-ruled Mexico didn’t have any more right to this land than those who created the United States of America.

    Today’s dark-skinned, low IQ Mexican nationals who are swamping America are late-comers, fleeing a poor, corrupt, and disorganized country that was invented by (and is still dominated by) people whose ancestors hail from Western Europe (Spain).
    See a photo of the Mexican Congress. LOL!

    Interestingly, these ‘undocumented immigrants’ still want desperately to live near the "racist gringo".
    Why?
    Because they can live better than in "Mexico".

    Hey, let's copy Mexico's immigration policies.
    Ours are lightweight in comparison.

    It's always bizarre to see that Mexicans want to 'make the US Mexico again' when it's Mexico they fled, but now they want their new home to be like the garbage heap they left.

    , @Clyde
    As usual, the left-lib person who deploys the condescending word "ignorant" is an incoherent fool. You!
  21. @interesting
    "since their information comes either from FX news, or other MSM"

    give me a fucking break, anyone who watches those fucking channels is completely misinformed.

    look, there's a lot of morons here but it's become apparent that way to many illegals are coming here for the free shit. As I've written here before there was a story about an older lady (she was Spanish speaking which doesn't necessarily mean Mexican) and they story was about how her food stamps were being cut and how difficult that was going to be for her. When it came to her history it turned out that she has been in the country 20 years, never had a job and didn't speak a lick of English.

    THAT IS A PROBLEM, we Americans can no longer afford this and the government is letting more just like her flood across the border. My largest monthly expense (unlike this lady) is taxes and I've not had a raise in 20 fucking years. Many of us are at the end of our rope, we simply can not afford this anymore, i know i can't.

    illegal immigration hurts legal immigrants, black and low paid workers already here the most.

    we Americans can no longer afford this….

    I worked just across the American side in the service, and noticed hundreds of Immigration officers stopping lots of border crossers, if that could be a word. Our Government is doing what it can, and it seems that you are not aware of the job the Government is doing. I understand your frustration with food stamp distribution. I get WIC monthly, which is not welfare, and was dressed down by a cashier in the food store, about getting ‘food assistance from the Gov.” I told her that I had spend 22 years serving my country in the military and it was non of her business about it’
    So yes, I actually agree with you that we cannot afford to support dirt bugs, who don not pay their share working and supporting the services provided. By the way, I would not mind if the welfare system was dismantled completely, may be then we would not have a problem like the one you inform us about.

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    So yes, I actually agree with you that we cannot afford to support dirt bugs, who don not pay their share working and supporting the services provided
     
    Does even one immigrant in ten today earn enough to meet the income tax threshold?
  22. @in the middle
    Discard:

    "Los Angeles" sounds like me saying 'I grew up in Mexico City, and there are millions of Mexicans there!" I hope you are kidding! for your information, Los Angeles, just by its name itself tells you who founded it, and who must be living there, all others not Mexicans are outsiders who moved there! For your information, several states were founded by Mexicans, oh my goodness, so much ignorance! I wonder what could be the response by me saying, 'I grew up in London, and there are millions of Britons there!"

    ¿So the Indians who outnumbered the Mexicans 1000-1 in the Southwest don’t count for mierda?

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  23. @in the middle
    we Americans can no longer afford this....

    I worked just across the American side in the service, and noticed hundreds of Immigration officers stopping lots of border crossers, if that could be a word. Our Government is doing what it can, and it seems that you are not aware of the job the Government is doing. I understand your frustration with food stamp distribution. I get WIC monthly, which is not welfare, and was dressed down by a cashier in the food store, about getting 'food assistance from the Gov." I told her that I had spend 22 years serving my country in the military and it was non of her business about it'
    So yes, I actually agree with you that we cannot afford to support dirt bugs, who don not pay their share working and supporting the services provided. By the way, I would not mind if the welfare system was dismantled completely, may be then we would not have a problem like the one you inform us about.

    So yes, I actually agree with you that we cannot afford to support dirt bugs, who don not pay their share working and supporting the services provided

    Does even one immigrant in ten today earn enough to meet the income tax threshold?

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  24. @Stealth
    I find the Mexicans of Los Angeles to be decent enough people. They seem very friendly and agreeable. Unfortunately, they haven't kept the place up very well. Those sidewalks are filthy.

    Gustavo DID NOT answer the guy's question.

    Mexicans do not seem to have much personal animosity towards Whites, you’re right. I’ve worked with them and taught them for many years. They tend to direct their violence against family and personal enemies or rival gangs. They’ll steal your car and rob your house when you’re gone, but they don’t often beat up Whites for sport, like Blacks. But they do not sustain a civilization that Whites are willing to live in. Filthy sidewalks are only a small example of the decline they bring. Keeping a modern city running means millions of people doing their jobs right and on time, and not enough Mexicans can manage that.

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  25. @in the middle
    Discard:

    the Mexicans let many of them decline after kicking the Spanish out.

    kicking the Spaniards out! are you kidding? is like saying 'kicking the English out, when we became 'independent' The English were not kick out, they stayed and became 'Americans' just like the Spaniards became 'Mexicans' oh such ignorance! English and French became the Canadians, etc. just to prove a point to your some how lack of knowledge. There is not such thing as an American, per say, unless you are native american, but there are European american, Mexican american, African american if you want to be technical about it. so lets stop the non sense. BTW, there is not such a thing as a 'Mexican 'nationality, since the republic south of the border has hundreds of ethnic groups, and believe me, Europeans are a large group also, unless you are so lacking in knowledge to believe the 'whities' came to the USA only. That, should be the test of lack of knowledge.

    Just as Loyalists and Royal officials and their families were expelled from the newly independent American colonies, the Mexicans expelled their Spanish rulers, officials, and those who served them. In California, for example, they kicked out the Franciscans and let the missions fall apart. Yankees, such as John Bidwell, Abel Sterns, and Jonathan Temple were welcomed by Californio landowners for their ability to establish and operate ranches on the abandoned mission lands. Oh, such ignorance on your part!

    Your knowledge of American history, including the Southwest, is as limited as your English writing skill.

    Let me guess. You served 22 years in the U.S. Navy as a Filipino mess boy?

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  26. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Immigration is racist.

    Look at the immigration patterns.

    Jews bitch about ‘white racism’, but Jewish immigration patterns have always favored white nations.

    After all, Latin America and Anglo-America were both open for immigration, but Jews chose the whiter America over mixed-race Latin America.
    And Jews almost never decided to move to black Africa. If anything, the favorite African destination for Jewish immigration was white-ruled South Africa where Jews made lots o money in diamonds.

    Look at Asians. Most Asian-Americans are progs who bitch and whine all the time(as yellows are toadies and dogs who follow prevailing officialdom), but their immigration preference has been for white-majority nations. Almost all Asians would rather move to America, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada(or Europe) than to highly diverse Latin America. And they certainly don’t want to emigrate permanently to Africa or Middle East. Some go there to work(like Chinese laborers), but they don’t want to settle in those parts.

    So, immigration is racist. Mexicans want to move El Norte to where the Anglos are. They don’t want to move El Southo to where people are even less white than Mexicans are.

    And look at Muslim and Black African immigration into Europe. Their decisions are white supremacist in the sense that they think white nations are superior destinations over non-white ones. We don’t see Muslims move to black African nations. We don’t see black Africans wanting to move to Mexico or India.

    And even when it comes to non-white nations, non-white immigrants/migrants/refugees prefer northern pale-white nations to southern-swarthy-white nations. They’d rather move to Germany or Sweden than be stuck in Greece or Italy.

    Anglos are just about the only people who were willing to move to lands with nothing and build something on it. They turned wilderness into civilization.
    All other peoples have no such will and vision. They want to go to where civilization has already been built and feed off it. They want to feed off whites even as they bitch about ‘racism’ even though their immigration preference itself is racist in seeking white nations over non-white ones.

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    I don't see Mexico as being much whiter than any of the Latin American nations. Maybe Bolivia is less white. Ecuador?

    I know this much: Street View confirms that Mexico is one of the nastiest countries down there. That place is seriously dirty looking.

  27. @Priss Factor
    Immigration is racist.

    Look at the immigration patterns.

    Jews bitch about 'white racism', but Jewish immigration patterns have always favored white nations.

    After all, Latin America and Anglo-America were both open for immigration, but Jews chose the whiter America over mixed-race Latin America.
    And Jews almost never decided to move to black Africa. If anything, the favorite African destination for Jewish immigration was white-ruled South Africa where Jews made lots o money in diamonds.

    Look at Asians. Most Asian-Americans are progs who bitch and whine all the time(as yellows are toadies and dogs who follow prevailing officialdom), but their immigration preference has been for white-majority nations. Almost all Asians would rather move to America, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada(or Europe) than to highly diverse Latin America. And they certainly don't want to emigrate permanently to Africa or Middle East. Some go there to work(like Chinese laborers), but they don't want to settle in those parts.

    So, immigration is racist. Mexicans want to move El Norte to where the Anglos are. They don't want to move El Southo to where people are even less white than Mexicans are.

    And look at Muslim and Black African immigration into Europe. Their decisions are white supremacist in the sense that they think white nations are superior destinations over non-white ones. We don't see Muslims move to black African nations. We don't see black Africans wanting to move to Mexico or India.

    And even when it comes to non-white nations, non-white immigrants/migrants/refugees prefer northern pale-white nations to southern-swarthy-white nations. They'd rather move to Germany or Sweden than be stuck in Greece or Italy.

    Anglos are just about the only people who were willing to move to lands with nothing and build something on it. They turned wilderness into civilization.
    All other peoples have no such will and vision. They want to go to where civilization has already been built and feed off it. They want to feed off whites even as they bitch about 'racism' even though their immigration preference itself is racist in seeking white nations over non-white ones.

    I don’t see Mexico as being much whiter than any of the Latin American nations. Maybe Bolivia is less white. Ecuador?

    I know this much: Street View confirms that Mexico is one of the nastiest countries down there. That place is seriously dirty looking.

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    "I don’t see Mexico as being much whiter than any of the Latin American nations. Maybe Bolivia is less white. Ecuador?

    I know this much: Street View confirms that Mexico is one of the nastiest countries down there. That place is seriously dirty looking." --- Stealth #28

    You got that right. I was in bombed out Barrio Monimbó--Masaya, Nicaragua in the summer of 1980 about 6 weeks after Daniel Ortega marched into Managua. It actually was cleaner than many parts of Guadalajara in 1987. Media fosa séptica various rincones de Guadalajara.
  28. @Stealth
    I don't see Mexico as being much whiter than any of the Latin American nations. Maybe Bolivia is less white. Ecuador?

    I know this much: Street View confirms that Mexico is one of the nastiest countries down there. That place is seriously dirty looking.

    “I don’t see Mexico as being much whiter than any of the Latin American nations. Maybe Bolivia is less white. Ecuador?

    I know this much: Street View confirms that Mexico is one of the nastiest countries down there. That place is seriously dirty looking.” — Stealth #28

    You got that right. I was in bombed out Barrio Monimbó–Masaya, Nicaragua in the summer of 1980 about 6 weeks after Daniel Ortega marched into Managua. It actually was cleaner than many parts of Guadalajara in 1987. Media fosa séptica various rincones de Guadalajara.

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  29. @in the middle
    Jeff:

    Throughout my life, I found more Caucasians on welfare than any other ethnic group. I know, the Caucasians are also divided by ethnic groups for those of you out there. Germans, English, French, Irish, Italians, etc. So, now unless your name is Jose, you are 'non Hispanic' white. I guess all the whites migrated to the USA, forget the whites who went to Latin America, you are out of luck, since whites only come to the good USA, if your ancestors went south of the border, you are other than white! I laugh hard when I read "non-Hispanic' white. oxymoron, and totally beyond comprehension.

    “non-Hispanic white” is a government creation.

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  30. @in the middle
    Discard:

    "Los Angeles" sounds like me saying 'I grew up in Mexico City, and there are millions of Mexicans there!" I hope you are kidding! for your information, Los Angeles, just by its name itself tells you who founded it, and who must be living there, all others not Mexicans are outsiders who moved there! For your information, several states were founded by Mexicans, oh my goodness, so much ignorance! I wonder what could be the response by me saying, 'I grew up in London, and there are millions of Britons there!"

    don’t deflect. how many millions of people populate LA proper and how many contribute positively to society and to the economy instead of committing crime, living off the underground, and double dipping off welfare?

    Who is it that built up LA from a bunch of “rancho’s” to a metropolis? Hell, many of the immigrants may speak Spanish but they sure as hell cannot write or read in that language. They are sucker fish just being a drain on the economy and supporting their Democrat leaders.

    If they were to succeed in their “reconquista” after a short while of decay, nothing would work and CA would be like …. Mexico! Surprise surprise! It’s what they know. It’s what they recreate when they come to America. Because they don’t know English, they don’t want to be like the white man, they want to be comfortable with their Mexican ways … and welfare allows them to do that without having to work.

    Now don’t get me wrong. There are proud people who want to work, who are proud and independent, smart and aggressive, but many just take the easy way. They take and have so much, they send money back to their families back “home” because the economy there sucks. My forefathers came to America and worked the trades helping build America, served in the military and fought in it’s wars, and were proud to be Americans. Immigrants today only have a chip on their shoulder, hold grievances for things in the past that did not happen to them, and think that life is not fair and that America “owes” them something. Well, I think that something is a good swift kick in the ass on the way back to Mexico.

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  31. @anon
    Your error is to confuse or conflate settlers with immigrants, especially from centuries ago. It is an oranges and apples comparison. The modern day immigrant endures none of the hardships sixteenth, seventeenth ,eighteenth, etc., century settlers did.

    you mean the slaves, I presume

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  32. @in the middle
    Discard:

    the Mexicans let many of them decline after kicking the Spanish out.

    kicking the Spaniards out! are you kidding? is like saying 'kicking the English out, when we became 'independent' The English were not kick out, they stayed and became 'Americans' just like the Spaniards became 'Mexicans' oh such ignorance! English and French became the Canadians, etc. just to prove a point to your some how lack of knowledge. There is not such thing as an American, per say, unless you are native american, but there are European american, Mexican american, African american if you want to be technical about it. so lets stop the non sense. BTW, there is not such a thing as a 'Mexican 'nationality, since the republic south of the border has hundreds of ethnic groups, and believe me, Europeans are a large group also, unless you are so lacking in knowledge to believe the 'whities' came to the USA only. That, should be the test of lack of knowledge.

    You are wrong to claim that Mexicans were in the ‘South West” (Southwest) way before us Nordics (Euro-Americans) arrived.

    These ‘Mexicans’ immigrants (Meso-Americans) are descendants of the Aztecs, Mayans and Zapotecs (among others), who never set foot north of the Rio Grande.

    The Mexican-American war (that ‘stole’ Mexico) was a fight between two imperial, European-derived powers. White-ruled Mexico didn’t have any more right to this land than those who created the United States of America.

    Today’s dark-skinned, low IQ Mexican nationals who are swamping America are late-comers, fleeing a poor, corrupt, and disorganized country that was invented by (and is still dominated by) people whose ancestors hail from Western Europe (Spain).
    See a photo of the Mexican Congress. LOL!

    Interestingly, these ‘undocumented immigrants’ still want desperately to live near the “racist gringo”.
    Why?
    Because they can live better than in “Mexico”.

    Hey, let’s copy Mexico’s immigration policies.
    Ours are lightweight in comparison.

    It’s always bizarre to see that Mexicans want to ‘make the US Mexico again’ when it’s Mexico they fled, but now they want their new home to be like the garbage heap they left.

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    Hey! It's good to see you here. I thought maybe that angry note from Ron was your one-way ticket outta here, but I guess not. A coupla observations:

    (1) You've used my name twice in your forum. I was pretty sure we had an agreement not to do that. So what I'm going to do is give you until 9 a.m. PDT on Wednesday, July 20, to get rid of those. And if you don't, then I know someone who will find this particular thread rather interesting.

    (2) By the way, why are these dark-skinned Mexicans you speak of have low IQs? Is it because they have Amerindian ancestry? Be specific. Tell us all whether this low IQ-Amerindian link is limited to the descendants of the Maya and Aztecs or whether the descendants of, say, the Inca might be implicated.

    Thanks in advance.
  33. @in the middle
    Discard:

    the Mexicans let many of them decline after kicking the Spanish out.

    kicking the Spaniards out! are you kidding? is like saying 'kicking the English out, when we became 'independent' The English were not kick out, they stayed and became 'Americans' just like the Spaniards became 'Mexicans' oh such ignorance! English and French became the Canadians, etc. just to prove a point to your some how lack of knowledge. There is not such thing as an American, per say, unless you are native american, but there are European american, Mexican american, African american if you want to be technical about it. so lets stop the non sense. BTW, there is not such a thing as a 'Mexican 'nationality, since the republic south of the border has hundreds of ethnic groups, and believe me, Europeans are a large group also, unless you are so lacking in knowledge to believe the 'whities' came to the USA only. That, should be the test of lack of knowledge.

    As usual, the left-lib person who deploys the condescending word “ignorant” is an incoherent fool. You!

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  34. @in the middle
    Jeff:

    Throughout my life, I found more Caucasians on welfare than any other ethnic group. I know, the Caucasians are also divided by ethnic groups for those of you out there. Germans, English, French, Irish, Italians, etc. So, now unless your name is Jose, you are 'non Hispanic' white. I guess all the whites migrated to the USA, forget the whites who went to Latin America, you are out of luck, since whites only come to the good USA, if your ancestors went south of the border, you are other than white! I laugh hard when I read "non-Hispanic' white. oxymoron, and totally beyond comprehension.

    Like Gustavo you have engaged in the tactic of deflection and haven’t spoken to any of my very valid points. By Caucasians I’m guessing that you mean Caucasian American citizens. Since Caucasians are still the majority in the U.S. it would not be remarkable if they were the numerical majority of welfare-recipients. Breaking it down percentage-wise per group would likely reveal a different story.

    In any case, U.S. citizens on welfare and illegal aliens on welfare are two entirely different topics. The illegal alien isn’t supposed to be here to begin with, let alone receiving benefits paid for by U.S. citizens.

    It’s obvious to me that like Gustavo you couldn’t care less about what the law says or who is harmed by illegal aliens. You just want as many of “your” people in the U.S. as possible and by any & all means necessary. I’m genuinely fond of my Celtic/Saxon/Anglo/Viking/Norman cousins in Canada but if they want to come to the U.S. I expect them to do so legally—and would be thoroughly disgusted with them if they came illegally and even more so if they were a burden on the U.S. taxpayer.

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  35. It’s absolutely repulsive that the author of this sick column dismisses Mexican treatment of Central American migrants as merely the “trashing of other immigrants.” Then goes on to say it’s no different than how other countries treat immigrants.

    Amid cactus pads and pepper trees, they were waiting for the next arrival of La Bestia (The Beast), one of several so-named freight trains that thousands of mostly Central American migrants ride hobo-style northward, facing murder, rape, extortion and other dangers.

    The Americans treat us fine,” said a Honduran, Genaro Solis, making the trek with his 4-year-old daughter, Rachel, and his wife, Vanessa Flores. “The problem now is the Mexicans.”</blockquoteTreatment of immigrants in Mexico much worse than any other country

    http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-migrants-20140621-story.html

    Hernandez Martinez came to Mexico to escape a brutal drug cartel in Honduras, but his treatment in Mexico isn’t much better. On May 30, local police robbed him and then threw him and five other migrants from Central America off of a moving train in this town about 100 miles northeast of Mexico City.

    “The police took all the money I was carrying,” the 41-year-old woodcutter said of the $120 he had borrowed from several relatives to make the journey. “Now I don’t have a penny. There is nothing to go back to.” Martinez said four other Hondurans he was traveling with had been taken away earlier in Oaxaca, south of here, by local gang members “in front of (Mexican) authorities.”

    While Mexican politicians complain about the mistreatment of Mexican immigrants fleeing to the United States, Mexico is far more abusive toward Central and South American migrants like Martinez who seek asylum or want to pass through to the U.S., human rights groups allege.

    Many of the tens of thousands of refugees fleeing violence in their home countries, “are routinely preyed upon by both criminal organizations and corrupt government officials in Mexico,” the Washington Office on Latin America, a non-profit rights group, said in a report issued in May.

    Martin Rios, who runs a kitchen to feed migrants in Tequisquiapan, confirmed the deal between drug cartels. “Many immigrants who take the train are kidnapped by the cartels here and exchanged with other cartels,” he said. “They are often used as slaves, the women are sexually harassed and often used in the human trafficking business.” … Rios said he also has been threatened by authorities for helping the migrants: “They tell me if I don’t stop working, I will be killed.”

    Vicki Fox, who has done research on the issue at the University of London, said nine out of 10 Central American migrants in Ixtepec “had been the victim of a serious crime in Southern Mexico, ranging from armed robbery and assault to gang rape and attempted murder.”

    Fox said some migrants reported extortion by local Mexican authorities, too. “But this is the tip of the iceberg of the abuse, which includes mass-kidnap, rape, disappearance and murder at the hands of organized crime groups such, as the Zetas.”

    “Those who cannot pay for their release are murdered, and their bodies have been cut into pieces and burnt or dissolved in chemicals and made into fertilizer to spread on fields,” Fox added. “All trace of them, of their humanity, disappeared.”

    Laura Carlsen, director of the Americas Program at the Center for International Policy, said the plight of Central Americans fleeing violence back home “has revealed a deep vein of hypocrisy among Mexican politicians, who rightfully criticize the U.S. for its treatment of Mexican migrants as criminals and then do the same to migrants in this country.”

    “Human rights violations, rape, murder and extortion of migrants in Mexico is rampant and authorities turn a blind eye or actively participate in it,” Carlsen said.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/15/immigrants-mexico-abused-kidnapped/85798440/

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    • Replies: @Discard
    Laura Carlsen says that "…Mexican politicians rightfully criticize the U.S. for its treatment of Mexican migrants…".

    No, they don't.
    , @in the middle
    Pepe:

    The Mexican authorities and criminals found a new victim, the Central American traveler. They both don't care if you are from CA, all they care is to rob you, and many times, just callously get rid of you. Remember the Australians who were killed and burnt in their way to Guadalajara? All the several victims found in unmarked graves, etc. Thousands and tens of thousands killed, by the Government of Mexico and its Cartels. So yes, the CA migrants are the new victims, because less Mexicans are traveling north, and the CAs are the new migrants. Its so horrible, I wish we had invaded Mexico way back, and swept clean the criminal government together with their friends, the cartels. The Mexican Government is the world's biggest cartel! Its crimes go on, and go on, with no one doing anything about it. I had encounters with the Mexican Police, and its one of the most frightening events in ones life!
  36. @Wally
    You are wrong to claim that Mexicans were in the ‘South West” (Southwest) way before us Nordics (Euro-Americans) arrived.

    These ‘Mexicans’ immigrants (Meso-Americans) are descendants of the Aztecs, Mayans and Zapotecs (among others), who never set foot north of the Rio Grande.

    The Mexican-American war (that ‘stole’ Mexico) was a fight between two imperial, European-derived powers. White-ruled Mexico didn’t have any more right to this land than those who created the United States of America.

    Today’s dark-skinned, low IQ Mexican nationals who are swamping America are late-comers, fleeing a poor, corrupt, and disorganized country that was invented by (and is still dominated by) people whose ancestors hail from Western Europe (Spain).
    See a photo of the Mexican Congress. LOL!

    Interestingly, these ‘undocumented immigrants’ still want desperately to live near the "racist gringo".
    Why?
    Because they can live better than in "Mexico".

    Hey, let's copy Mexico's immigration policies.
    Ours are lightweight in comparison.

    It's always bizarre to see that Mexicans want to 'make the US Mexico again' when it's Mexico they fled, but now they want their new home to be like the garbage heap they left.

    Hey! It’s good to see you here. I thought maybe that angry note from Ron was your one-way ticket outta here, but I guess not. A coupla observations:

    (1) You’ve used my name twice in your forum. I was pretty sure we had an agreement not to do that. So what I’m going to do is give you until 9 a.m. PDT on Wednesday, July 20, to get rid of those. And if you don’t, then I know someone who will find this particular thread rather interesting.

    (2) By the way, why are these dark-skinned Mexicans you speak of have low IQs? Is it because they have Amerindian ancestry? Be specific. Tell us all whether this low IQ-Amerindian link is limited to the descendants of the Maya and Aztecs or whether the descendants of, say, the Inca might be implicated.

    Thanks in advance.

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  37. @Pepe
    It's absolutely repulsive that the author of this sick column dismisses Mexican treatment of Central American migrants as merely the "trashing of other immigrants." Then goes on to say it's no different than how other countries treat immigrants.

    Amid cactus pads and pepper trees, they were waiting for the next arrival of La Bestia (The Beast), one of several so-named freight trains that thousands of mostly Central American migrants ride hobo-style northward, facing murder, rape, extortion and other dangers.

    "The Americans treat us fine," said a Honduran, Genaro Solis, making the trek with his 4-year-old daughter, Rachel, and his wife, Vanessa Flores. "The problem now is the Mexicans."</blockquoteTreatment of immigrants in Mexico much worse than any other country

    http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-migrants-20140621-story.html


    Hernandez Martinez came to Mexico to escape a brutal drug cartel in Honduras, but his treatment in Mexico isn't much better. On May 30, local police robbed him and then threw him and five other migrants from Central America off of a moving train in this town about 100 miles northeast of Mexico City.

    "The police took all the money I was carrying," the 41-year-old woodcutter said of the $120 he had borrowed from several relatives to make the journey. "Now I don’t have a penny. There is nothing to go back to." Martinez said four other Hondurans he was traveling with had been taken away earlier in Oaxaca, south of here, by local gang members "in front of (Mexican) authorities."

    While Mexican politicians complain about the mistreatment of Mexican immigrants fleeing to the United States, Mexico is far more abusive toward Central and South American migrants like Martinez who seek asylum or want to pass through to the U.S., human rights groups allege.

    Many of the tens of thousands of refugees fleeing violence in their home countries, "are routinely preyed upon by both criminal organizations and corrupt government officials in Mexico," the Washington Office on Latin America, a non-profit rights group, said in a report issued in May.

    Martin Rios, who runs a kitchen to feed migrants in Tequisquiapan, confirmed the deal between drug cartels. “Many immigrants who take the train are kidnapped by the cartels here and exchanged with other cartels,” he said. “They are often used as slaves, the women are sexually harassed and often used in the human trafficking business.” ... Rios said he also has been threatened by authorities for helping the migrants: “They tell me if I don’t stop working, I will be killed.”

    Vicki Fox, who has done research on the issue at the University of London, said nine out of 10 Central American migrants in Ixtepec "had been the victim of a serious crime in Southern Mexico, ranging from armed robbery and assault to gang rape and attempted murder."

    Fox said some migrants reported extortion by local Mexican authorities, too. "But this is the tip of the iceberg of the abuse, which includes mass-kidnap, rape, disappearance and murder at the hands of organized crime groups such, as the Zetas."

    "Those who cannot pay for their release are murdered, and their bodies have been cut into pieces and burnt or dissolved in chemicals and made into fertilizer to spread on fields," Fox added. "All trace of them, of their humanity, disappeared."

    Laura Carlsen, director of the Americas Program at the Center for International Policy, said the plight of Central Americans fleeing violence back home "has revealed a deep vein of hypocrisy among Mexican politicians, who rightfully criticize the U.S. for its treatment of Mexican migrants as criminals and then do the same to migrants in this country."

    "Human rights violations, rape, murder and extortion of migrants in Mexico is rampant and authorities turn a blind eye or actively participate in it,” Carlsen said.
     

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/15/immigrants-mexico-abused-kidnapped/85798440/

    Laura Carlsen says that “…Mexican politicians rightfully criticize the U.S. for its treatment of Mexican migrants…”.

    No, they don’t.

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  38. @anon
    Your error is to confuse or conflate settlers with immigrants, especially from centuries ago. It is an oranges and apples comparison. The modern day immigrant endures none of the hardships sixteenth, seventeenth ,eighteenth, etc., century settlers did.

    Anon,

    you are so wrong! They die in the deserts of AZ and Calif, in order to arrive here! I guess we can see it both ways, we do have a wonderful place where the whole world is trying to get here, and at the same time we can see it as an invasion by the whole world.

    But some how most miss the point, I believe that the true problem that we have is an invasion of a different kind. Try to shop american made products, just try. WE were invaded while ago by imports so horrible, that now a day we can’t purchase an american product, made in the good USA. that is the problem and not people who come here as productive people. I have not problem with them coming to work in the fields where I am for sure not going to be working at. Be my guess, and pick up the produce I purchase in costco, please be my guess, otherwise I believe we are condemning the wrong group of people. We need to see where our principal problem is, and that is not the field worker, but corporations who shipped our jobs all the way to Asia, and now they flooded our country with their products leaving us without good jobs to look for. WAKE UP!

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    • Replies: @anon
    "they die in the deserts.."

    A bit dramatic, but that would apply perhaps to illegal aliens, not lawful immigrants.

    In any case with considerable unemployment and even more under-employment, and with a population now approaching a third of a billion, I question why the USA 'needs' ANY immigration.
  39. @Pepe
    It's absolutely repulsive that the author of this sick column dismisses Mexican treatment of Central American migrants as merely the "trashing of other immigrants." Then goes on to say it's no different than how other countries treat immigrants.

    Amid cactus pads and pepper trees, they were waiting for the next arrival of La Bestia (The Beast), one of several so-named freight trains that thousands of mostly Central American migrants ride hobo-style northward, facing murder, rape, extortion and other dangers.

    "The Americans treat us fine," said a Honduran, Genaro Solis, making the trek with his 4-year-old daughter, Rachel, and his wife, Vanessa Flores. "The problem now is the Mexicans."</blockquoteTreatment of immigrants in Mexico much worse than any other country

    http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-migrants-20140621-story.html


    Hernandez Martinez came to Mexico to escape a brutal drug cartel in Honduras, but his treatment in Mexico isn't much better. On May 30, local police robbed him and then threw him and five other migrants from Central America off of a moving train in this town about 100 miles northeast of Mexico City.

    "The police took all the money I was carrying," the 41-year-old woodcutter said of the $120 he had borrowed from several relatives to make the journey. "Now I don’t have a penny. There is nothing to go back to." Martinez said four other Hondurans he was traveling with had been taken away earlier in Oaxaca, south of here, by local gang members "in front of (Mexican) authorities."

    While Mexican politicians complain about the mistreatment of Mexican immigrants fleeing to the United States, Mexico is far more abusive toward Central and South American migrants like Martinez who seek asylum or want to pass through to the U.S., human rights groups allege.

    Many of the tens of thousands of refugees fleeing violence in their home countries, "are routinely preyed upon by both criminal organizations and corrupt government officials in Mexico," the Washington Office on Latin America, a non-profit rights group, said in a report issued in May.

    Martin Rios, who runs a kitchen to feed migrants in Tequisquiapan, confirmed the deal between drug cartels. “Many immigrants who take the train are kidnapped by the cartels here and exchanged with other cartels,” he said. “They are often used as slaves, the women are sexually harassed and often used in the human trafficking business.” ... Rios said he also has been threatened by authorities for helping the migrants: “They tell me if I don’t stop working, I will be killed.”

    Vicki Fox, who has done research on the issue at the University of London, said nine out of 10 Central American migrants in Ixtepec "had been the victim of a serious crime in Southern Mexico, ranging from armed robbery and assault to gang rape and attempted murder."

    Fox said some migrants reported extortion by local Mexican authorities, too. "But this is the tip of the iceberg of the abuse, which includes mass-kidnap, rape, disappearance and murder at the hands of organized crime groups such, as the Zetas."

    "Those who cannot pay for their release are murdered, and their bodies have been cut into pieces and burnt or dissolved in chemicals and made into fertilizer to spread on fields," Fox added. "All trace of them, of their humanity, disappeared."

    Laura Carlsen, director of the Americas Program at the Center for International Policy, said the plight of Central Americans fleeing violence back home "has revealed a deep vein of hypocrisy among Mexican politicians, who rightfully criticize the U.S. for its treatment of Mexican migrants as criminals and then do the same to migrants in this country."

    "Human rights violations, rape, murder and extortion of migrants in Mexico is rampant and authorities turn a blind eye or actively participate in it,” Carlsen said.
     

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/15/immigrants-mexico-abused-kidnapped/85798440/

    Pepe:

    The Mexican authorities and criminals found a new victim, the Central American traveler. They both don’t care if you are from CA, all they care is to rob you, and many times, just callously get rid of you. Remember the Australians who were killed and burnt in their way to Guadalajara? All the several victims found in unmarked graves, etc. Thousands and tens of thousands killed, by the Government of Mexico and its Cartels. So yes, the CA migrants are the new victims, because less Mexicans are traveling north, and the CAs are the new migrants. Its so horrible, I wish we had invaded Mexico way back, and swept clean the criminal government together with their friends, the cartels. The Mexican Government is the world’s biggest cartel! Its crimes go on, and go on, with no one doing anything about it. I had encounters with the Mexican Police, and its one of the most frightening events in ones life!

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    • Replies: @Pepe
    The horrid truth of Mexican treatment of Central American migrants:

    Mexican Police Helped Cartel Massacre 193 Migrants, Documents Show

    December 22, 2014, 11:08 PM ET
    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Local police in the city of San Fernando in northern Mexico were involved in the 2011 massacres of 193 mainly Central American migrants whose bodies were found in mass graves, according to federal prosecutors.

    In San Fernando, a city of 60,000 inhabitants in Tamaulipas state near the Texas border, local police worked as lookouts for the brutal Zetas drug cartel, as well as turning a blind eye to cartel activity, according to members of the Zetas cited in the memo.

    The Zetas were fighting for control of human trafficking networks with the Gulf Cartel. In 2011 there were many cases of the mass kidnapping of migrants heading north to try to cross illegally into the United States. Officials have said that most of the bodies found in and around San Fernando belong to migrants kidnapped off buses and killed by the Zetas, some because they refused to work as drug mules.

    In the memo, detained Zetas told authorities that local police helped in the "intercepting of people."

    This is the first time the Attorney General's Office has declassified documents related to the mass killings of migrants perpetrated in northern Mexico in recent years. These are the killing of 72 migrants in San Fernando in August 2010, the discovery of at least 193 bodies in 47 clandestine graves in San Fernando between April and May of 2011, and the discovery of 49 human torsos in Cadereyta in the neighboring state of Nuevo Leon in May 2012.
     
    http://www.npr.org/2014/12/22/372579429/mexican-police-helped-cartel-massacre-193-migrants-documents-show
  40. Where is the reply? It seems like there is a page or two missing.

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  41. @in the middle
    Pepe:

    The Mexican authorities and criminals found a new victim, the Central American traveler. They both don't care if you are from CA, all they care is to rob you, and many times, just callously get rid of you. Remember the Australians who were killed and burnt in their way to Guadalajara? All the several victims found in unmarked graves, etc. Thousands and tens of thousands killed, by the Government of Mexico and its Cartels. So yes, the CA migrants are the new victims, because less Mexicans are traveling north, and the CAs are the new migrants. Its so horrible, I wish we had invaded Mexico way back, and swept clean the criminal government together with their friends, the cartels. The Mexican Government is the world's biggest cartel! Its crimes go on, and go on, with no one doing anything about it. I had encounters with the Mexican Police, and its one of the most frightening events in ones life!

    The horrid truth of Mexican treatment of Central American migrants:

    [MORE]

    Mexican Police Helped Cartel Massacre 193 Migrants, Documents Show

    December 22, 2014, 11:08 PM ET
    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Local police in the city of San Fernando in northern Mexico were involved in the 2011 massacres of 193 mainly Central American migrants whose bodies were found in mass graves, according to federal prosecutors.

    In San Fernando, a city of 60,000 inhabitants in Tamaulipas state near the Texas border, local police worked as lookouts for the brutal Zetas drug cartel, as well as turning a blind eye to cartel activity, according to members of the Zetas cited in the memo.

    The Zetas were fighting for control of human trafficking networks with the Gulf Cartel. In 2011 there were many cases of the mass kidnapping of migrants heading north to try to cross illegally into the United States. Officials have said that most of the bodies found in and around San Fernando belong to migrants kidnapped off buses and killed by the Zetas, some because they refused to work as drug mules.

    In the memo, detained Zetas told authorities that local police helped in the “intercepting of people.

    This is the first time the Attorney General’s Office has declassified documents related to the mass killings of migrants perpetrated in northern Mexico in recent years. These are the killing of 72 migrants in San Fernando in August 2010, the discovery of at least 193 bodies in 47 clandestine graves in San Fernando between April and May of 2011, and the discovery of 49 human torsos in Cadereyta in the neighboring state of Nuevo Leon in May 2012.

    http://www.npr.org/2014/12/22/372579429/mexican-police-helped-cartel-massacre-193-migrants-documents-show

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    • Replies: @Pepe
    Why does my comment here have that weird MORE thing, forcing readers to click to see the rest of my comment? I don't recall ever seeing that before ....
  42. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @in the middle
    Anon,

    you are so wrong! They die in the deserts of AZ and Calif, in order to arrive here! I guess we can see it both ways, we do have a wonderful place where the whole world is trying to get here, and at the same time we can see it as an invasion by the whole world.

    But some how most miss the point, I believe that the true problem that we have is an invasion of a different kind. Try to shop american made products, just try. WE were invaded while ago by imports so horrible, that now a day we can't purchase an american product, made in the good USA. that is the problem and not people who come here as productive people. I have not problem with them coming to work in the fields where I am for sure not going to be working at. Be my guess, and pick up the produce I purchase in costco, please be my guess, otherwise I believe we are condemning the wrong group of people. We need to see where our principal problem is, and that is not the field worker, but corporations who shipped our jobs all the way to Asia, and now they flooded our country with their products leaving us without good jobs to look for. WAKE UP!

    “they die in the deserts..”

    A bit dramatic, but that would apply perhaps to illegal aliens, not lawful immigrants.

    In any case with considerable unemployment and even more under-employment, and with a population now approaching a third of a billion, I question why the USA ‘needs’ ANY immigration.

    Read More
  43. @Pepe
    The horrid truth of Mexican treatment of Central American migrants:

    Mexican Police Helped Cartel Massacre 193 Migrants, Documents Show

    December 22, 2014, 11:08 PM ET
    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Local police in the city of San Fernando in northern Mexico were involved in the 2011 massacres of 193 mainly Central American migrants whose bodies were found in mass graves, according to federal prosecutors.

    In San Fernando, a city of 60,000 inhabitants in Tamaulipas state near the Texas border, local police worked as lookouts for the brutal Zetas drug cartel, as well as turning a blind eye to cartel activity, according to members of the Zetas cited in the memo.

    The Zetas were fighting for control of human trafficking networks with the Gulf Cartel. In 2011 there were many cases of the mass kidnapping of migrants heading north to try to cross illegally into the United States. Officials have said that most of the bodies found in and around San Fernando belong to migrants kidnapped off buses and killed by the Zetas, some because they refused to work as drug mules.

    In the memo, detained Zetas told authorities that local police helped in the "intercepting of people."

    This is the first time the Attorney General's Office has declassified documents related to the mass killings of migrants perpetrated in northern Mexico in recent years. These are the killing of 72 migrants in San Fernando in August 2010, the discovery of at least 193 bodies in 47 clandestine graves in San Fernando between April and May of 2011, and the discovery of 49 human torsos in Cadereyta in the neighboring state of Nuevo Leon in May 2012.
     
    http://www.npr.org/2014/12/22/372579429/mexican-police-helped-cartel-massacre-193-migrants-documents-show

    Why does my comment here have that weird MORE thing, forcing readers to click to see the rest of my comment? I don’t recall ever seeing that before ….

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  44. @Fidelios Automata
    Gustavo, I usually enjoy your column, but I agree with the other commenters. You didn't answer the man's question. My take on illegals is the same as the late Edward Abbey's: send them back with a gun to overthrow the corrupt Mexican government.

    I believe that the issue here is that most Americans of Mexican descend consider themselves ‘Mexicans’, which is wrong, you are not Mexicans, you are as Mexican as descendants of Europeans are Europeans! You are as American as the next, and forget about people calling you ‘vendido’. that is wrong. My friends get upset when i mention the issue of ‘divided families’ actually, take your children with you! when they become old enough, they can come back to their country, if that is the problem, since as I said, they are as american as any other born in the good ol’ USA!

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    • Replies: @Discard
    If a an American citizen of Mexican descent considers themselves to be Mexican, then Mexican they are. That is where their loyalties lie. And that is the law in Mexico. Get on the bus, Jose.
  45. @Jonathan Mason
    Where is the reply? It seems like there is a page or two missing.

    What you want to read Mason? whose reply?

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  46. @in the middle
    I believe that the issue here is that most Americans of Mexican descend consider themselves 'Mexicans', which is wrong, you are not Mexicans, you are as Mexican as descendants of Europeans are Europeans! You are as American as the next, and forget about people calling you 'vendido'. that is wrong. My friends get upset when i mention the issue of 'divided families' actually, take your children with you! when they become old enough, they can come back to their country, if that is the problem, since as I said, they are as american as any other born in the good ol' USA!

    If a an American citizen of Mexican descent considers themselves to be Mexican, then Mexican they are. That is where their loyalties lie. And that is the law in Mexico. Get on the bus, Jose.

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