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I’m a gabacho living in a barrio. It took a year after we moved in (we’ve been here for five now), but I grew accustomed to the bicycle-horn=honking guys selling churros out of grocery carts, the tamale lady selling out of a stroller, the couple selling new clothes out of a panel van, the fruit/vegetable guy who really just sells crappy chips out of the back of a bobtail, the every-other-day yard sales. Don’t get me wrong, I love the “micro-economics” of it all; it’s kind of like living at the ballpark. If you sit there long enough somebody will show up with something to eat.

I’ve started to not jump every time I hear the “Tijuana Doorbell.” A LOT of trash gets thrown into the street and my yard, much of it from the crappy chips the aforementioned fruit guy sells. The trash and the honking still piss me off, but I’m used to it. The cholos, copters and potholes—old news. What I just can’t get my head around is this: why do so many Mexicans—men and women—sit in their cars for hours at a time? Or start the car and then walk away for a half-hour? The car’s just sitting there—ON—and nobody’s around. The sitting around might be attributable to not having any privacy at home, I get that. But starting your car and just sitting there or walking away? ¿Qu?

Señor Gabacho Con Questiones y Mariscos

Dear Mr. Gabacho with Questions and Seafood: Ever heard of carburetors? That’s what real cars have in their engines, and you need to warm up said carros in the morning in order for them to run. Mexicans have always preferred real ranflas, so even when we eventually get weak-ass fuel-injection cars, we still warm up cars as a form of habit. And while this might seem like a weak answer, it’s based on precedent: look at that classic Mexican habit of not flushing away toilet paper full of caca.

 

I’m a 64-year-old white guy. I’m one of your readers, and a Facebook amigo. I’m a huge fan of Tejano music, which led me into appreciating Mexican music. Then, of course there’s Los Lobos and Los Lonely Boys who can (and do) play anything. Then there’s that whole Depression/WWII diaspora that had a hand in the Oakland Bay Area horn funk bands of the ‘60s and ‘70s, and, of course, the whole damn Escovedo family up there in NorCal. Boy did I get off base. My question is, am I a gabacho?

Green Goes the Gringos

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Dear Gabacho: Did you ever hear that joke Chris Rock said about black people and “niggas”? That’s how it is with white people and gabachos. The Mexican frequently gets accused by gabachos of being racist toward white people, when that’s not the case at all. Some of my best friends are white people—hell, one just installed a door for me the other day, and I even let him use my bathroom! This column takes on the gabachos of the United States, though. It’s gabachos who think Mexicans are destroying this country, gabachos who want to elect Trump yet profess to enjoying Mexican food. White people hate gabachos as much as Mexicans, which is why they don’t have a problem with the Reconquista. Gabachos, on the other hand? Better stock up on the Tapatío as a peace offering, ‘cause your’re gonna have to make nice with us muy soon. So you, sir, ain’t no gabacho: you’re just a plain ol’ gringo.

 

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  1. “And while this might seem like a weak answer, it’s based on precedent: look at that classic Mexican habit of not flushing away toilet paper full of caca.”

    Didn’t I say something about Gustavo’s “fosa séptica” on the previous article?

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  2. I think The Mexican (Arellano) is a true racist (nothing wrong with that) who wants us to hate Mexicans. He is succeeding. We must remove them; they will never assimilate, just like blacks. The US was founded for white people only.

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    Yeah, Arellano wants you to hate Mexicans, but I have feeling you've hated Mexicans all along and use Gustavo's column as pretext for it.

    The US was founded for white people only? Maybe, but get ready to be the minority- real soon.
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  3. Big Bill says:

    “Why Are Mexican Barrios Like That?”

    Answer: Because they are full of Mexicans.

    Analysis: This is the same reason that “black ghettos are like that” and “white suburbs are like that” and “Jewish neighborhoods are like that”, and “German towns are like that”.

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  4. gustafus says:

    Southwestern cities have had 500 years to work out their integration. Albuquerque is a self segregating city. The south valley is dangerous barrio. The north valley is multi cultural naivete with meth lab casitas between multi million dollar horse farms. Break ins are routine. But Jersey and Long Island Jews continue to drive up house prices… and bar the windows in their quest for self satisfying multi cultural arrangements.

    The more pragmatic old school GOP inhabit the north east Sandia Heights… a Comcast truck parked too long in any given gated community arouses suspicion and a police check. But the keys are in the ignition in the drive way… honest.

    The northwest is the melting pot of multi generational latinos and poor under employed and tattooed whites. NE whites cross the river to this area when absolutely necessary.

    The southeast is problematic in that it’s Air Force, war zone druggies and embattled old ABQ whites. But nary a house for sale in the 4 hills white compounds.

    It works… and Breaking Bad be damned…. it’s a pretty nice place to live… if you don’t stray from the highly segregated directives. Clean air and water… few natural disasters… wonderful climate… and a shit load of white wannabee “Hispanic” Catholics who try their best to raise up a generation that won’t end up in the slammer. Honest.

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  5. Pepe says:

    I’m a huge fan of Tejano music, which led me into appreciating Mexican music. Then, of course there’s Los Lobos and Los Lonely Boys who can (and do) play anything.

    Very lame attempt at ass-kissing The Goose. And that’s a real trick since it means he’s kissing his own ass!

    Sounds like this guy (Goose) hasn’t a clue about Mexican music.

    Los Lobos and Los Lonely Boys? LOL. Mediocre American rock n roll. That’s what gringo Director Bobby Rodriguez listens to, right?

    How do I know it’s bad since I don’t really listen to them? I know by the wannabe Mexicans who listen to them.

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    Rodriguez is a little on the European side, isn't he? Gringo indeed.
    , @Michelle
    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don't listen to them. I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker, but any lefty Mexican will tell you they hate them, just like white people hate Journey or the Eagles.

    Don't listen to Pepe though, there is just as much mediocre, and down right terrible, Mexican music as there is mediocre Tejano music. Flaco Jimenez is one of the greatest musicians of all time.

    There is no such thing as "Authentic" Mexican music, food or culture, for that matter. Mexican culture is a blended culture. Some of the worst Mexican food I've ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.

    OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico? Authentic doesn't always mean good.

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  6. Stealth says:
    @Pepe

    I’m a huge fan of Tejano music, which led me into appreciating Mexican music. Then, of course there’s Los Lobos and Los Lonely Boys who can (and do) play anything.
     
    Very lame attempt at ass-kissing The Goose. And that's a real trick since it means he's kissing his own ass!

    Sounds like this guy (Goose) hasn't a clue about Mexican music.

    Los Lobos and Los Lonely Boys? LOL. Mediocre American rock n roll. That's what gringo Director Bobby Rodriguez listens to, right?

    How do I know it's bad since I don't really listen to them? I know by the wannabe Mexicans who listen to them.

    Rodriguez is a little on the European side, isn’t he? Gringo indeed.

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    • Replies: @uslabor
    Rodriquez may have more European blood in him than most Mestizos, but el tiene un "nopal en frente". No gringo, he.

    To be Mexican is more of question of nationality than ethnicity. Salma Hayek, and Carlos slim were both born in Mexico to fathers who immigrated from Lebanon. The are Italian, Russian, and Canadian Mennonite communities that have been in Mexico for generations. It was the German immigrants to Mexico that founded most of the beer breweries there.

    And they're all Mexicans, even the white ones.
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  7. Michelle says:
    @Pepe

    I’m a huge fan of Tejano music, which led me into appreciating Mexican music. Then, of course there’s Los Lobos and Los Lonely Boys who can (and do) play anything.
     
    Very lame attempt at ass-kissing The Goose. And that's a real trick since it means he's kissing his own ass!

    Sounds like this guy (Goose) hasn't a clue about Mexican music.

    Los Lobos and Los Lonely Boys? LOL. Mediocre American rock n roll. That's what gringo Director Bobby Rodriguez listens to, right?

    How do I know it's bad since I don't really listen to them? I know by the wannabe Mexicans who listen to them.

    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don’t listen to them. I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker, but any lefty Mexican will tell you they hate them, just like white people hate Journey or the Eagles.

    Don’t listen to Pepe though, there is just as much mediocre, and down right terrible, Mexican music as there is mediocre Tejano music. Flaco Jimenez is one of the greatest musicians of all time.

    There is no such thing as “Authentic” Mexican music, food or culture, for that matter. Mexican culture is a blended culture. Some of the worst Mexican food I’ve ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.

    OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico? Authentic doesn’t always mean good.

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    • Replies: @uslabor
    Your generalization isn't completely accurate. Many Mexicans, such as myself, listen to, and adore Los Lobos. But you're right about one thing, they are great.

    I have a feeling it is more of a generational thing, than an ethnic thing.
    , @Pepe

    Don’t listen to Pepe
     
    Generally it's not a good idea to tell people what to do. Especially people you don't know.

    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don’t listen to them.
     
    I rest my case on that point.

    I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker. OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico?
     
    You seem to mistake me for someone who defends all things Mexican. That tends to be what wannabe Mexicans do - as they eat their burrito or chimichanga listening to Los Lobos. While they think about moving to Mexico "one of these days."

    In general, and as one would expect, the more authentic aspects of Mexican culture are those created by the majority, brown Mestizo population. Mexico is about 70% Mestizo, so any aspect of Mexican culture not using this 70% will tend to be weak and lame.

    For instance, Mexican TV and movies. The industry is dominated by white Mexicans and puts out absolutely horrendous crap. The movie industry is so bad, Cuarón, del Toro, and Iñárritu literally had to flee the country like refugees to make decent films.

    The same is true for Mexican rock and pop music. It's created overwhelmingly by rich white Mexicans for rich white spoiled Mexicans kids (the so called "Mirreyes" - google it).

    In contrast, real authentic Mexican music and food are created by the brown Mestizo masses. It's possible you've never heard real Mexican music or tasted real Mexican food. Last week I described some of my favorite (real) Mexican foods, and in previous posts I've written about the real Mexican music I like.

    Some of the worst Mexican food I’ve ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.
     
    Again, I rest my case. I've lived in central Mexico for 12 years, and I go up to south Texas twice a year. The "Tex-Mex" food available in Texas is notoriously non-Mexican and atrocious.

    The Mexican music I refer to is avoided by the tiny white minority in Mexico. (They're ashamed of it and think Mexican music should sound like Cold Play and Adele) It's the music you hear coming from construction sites in both the US and Mexico. What you'll hear in taxis, too. It's listened to by about 75% of the Mexican population.

    But since the white minority controls the entertainment industry, it's almost never heard on Mexican TV. Also, in some cities and towns, you'll find a dozen radio stations playing white Mexican rock and pop or gringo rock and pop, but only one or two radio stations playing Mexican music. When I moved down here in 2004, there was no FM station playing this music in my city. I had to listen AM radio for the first 4 or 5 years!! It's kinda sick, really. But it's one of the downsides of living in a country dominated by an unimaginative, mostly talentless, white minority.
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  8. uslabor says:
    @george strong
    I think The Mexican (Arellano) is a true racist (nothing wrong with that) who wants us to hate Mexicans. He is succeeding. We must remove them; they will never assimilate, just like blacks. The US was founded for white people only.

    Yeah, Arellano wants you to hate Mexicans, but I have feeling you’ve hated Mexicans all along and use Gustavo’s column as pretext for it.

    The US was founded for white people only? Maybe, but get ready to be the minority- real soon.

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    I think a measured reply to that threatening (& salivating) tone is:

    yes, we'll get ready. Meanwhile, the Soon Majority must be ready to keep being led (by the nose, when seen as fit) by a small circle of people whose names end in -kins, moore, -witz, -berg, -stein, -ton, and so on.

    If some of them think this will change, they're going to be disappointed.
    The law of IQ is firm. Has always been, will always be.
    , @Stealth

    The US was founded for white people only? Maybe, but get ready to be the minority- real soon.
     
    Actually, yes it was. That's certainly the way the Founders saw things. That's true whether Euro-Americans become a minority or not.

    I've never understood why non-whites are itching so badly for this to happen. They fantasize about the day they're in charge and get to make those crackers pay. However, most of them are here because they or their parents/grandparents wanted to live among those very same whites they despise. In that sense, we white Americans are not unlike the goose that laid the golden egg.

    Most Mexican Americans are nice, but they're not known for making nice places to live. Out of curiosity, where will everybody run to when whites have been finally been extirpated by way of low birth rates and exogamy?
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  9. uslabor says:
    @Michelle
    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don't listen to them. I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker, but any lefty Mexican will tell you they hate them, just like white people hate Journey or the Eagles.

    Don't listen to Pepe though, there is just as much mediocre, and down right terrible, Mexican music as there is mediocre Tejano music. Flaco Jimenez is one of the greatest musicians of all time.

    There is no such thing as "Authentic" Mexican music, food or culture, for that matter. Mexican culture is a blended culture. Some of the worst Mexican food I've ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.

    OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico? Authentic doesn't always mean good.

    Your generalization isn’t completely accurate. Many Mexicans, such as myself, listen to, and adore Los Lobos. But you’re right about one thing, they are great.

    I have a feeling it is more of a generational thing, than an ethnic thing.

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  10. uslabor says:
    @Stealth
    Rodriguez is a little on the European side, isn't he? Gringo indeed.

    Rodriquez may have more European blood in him than most Mestizos, but el tiene un “nopal en frente”. No gringo, he.

    To be Mexican is more of question of nationality than ethnicity. Salma Hayek, and Carlos slim were both born in Mexico to fathers who immigrated from Lebanon. The are Italian, Russian, and Canadian Mennonite communities that have been in Mexico for generations. It was the German immigrants to Mexico that founded most of the beer breweries there.

    And they’re all Mexicans, even the white ones.

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    Rodriquez may have more European blood in him than most Mestizos, but el tiene un “nopal en frente”. No gringo, he.
     
    His Mexican themed movies, such as the "Mariachi" and "Machete" films, are embarrassing. They appear to be parodies of what a Gringo wannabe-Mexican director would make.

    Of course he plays in a rock band. How original.
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  11. Mexicans are doing this part to destroy this country.

    Hey Mexican, do you think America would be the same if it were 70 percent Mexican 14 percent black and 18 percent white?

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  12. Pepe says:
    @Michelle
    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don't listen to them. I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker, but any lefty Mexican will tell you they hate them, just like white people hate Journey or the Eagles.

    Don't listen to Pepe though, there is just as much mediocre, and down right terrible, Mexican music as there is mediocre Tejano music. Flaco Jimenez is one of the greatest musicians of all time.

    There is no such thing as "Authentic" Mexican music, food or culture, for that matter. Mexican culture is a blended culture. Some of the worst Mexican food I've ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.

    OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico? Authentic doesn't always mean good.

    Don’t listen to Pepe

    Generally it’s not a good idea to tell people what to do. Especially people you don’t know.

    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don’t listen to them.

    I rest my case on that point.

    I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker. OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico?

    You seem to mistake me for someone who defends all things Mexican. That tends to be what wannabe Mexicans do – as they eat their burrito or chimichanga listening to Los Lobos. While they think about moving to Mexico “one of these days.”

    In general, and as one would expect, the more authentic aspects of Mexican culture are those created by the majority, brown Mestizo population. Mexico is about 70% Mestizo, so any aspect of Mexican culture not using this 70% will tend to be weak and lame.

    For instance, Mexican TV and movies. The industry is dominated by white Mexicans and puts out absolutely horrendous crap. The movie industry is so bad, Cuarón, del Toro, and Iñárritu literally had to flee the country like refugees to make decent films.

    The same is true for Mexican rock and pop music. It’s created overwhelmingly by rich white Mexicans for rich white spoiled Mexicans kids (the so called “Mirreyes” – google it).

    In contrast, real authentic Mexican music and food are created by the brown Mestizo masses. It’s possible you’ve never heard real Mexican music or tasted real Mexican food. Last week I described some of my favorite (real) Mexican foods, and in previous posts I’ve written about the real Mexican music I like.

    Some of the worst Mexican food I’ve ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.

    Again, I rest my case. I’ve lived in central Mexico for 12 years, and I go up to south Texas twice a year. The “Tex-Mex” food available in Texas is notoriously non-Mexican and atrocious.

    The Mexican music I refer to is avoided by the tiny white minority in Mexico. (They’re ashamed of it and think Mexican music should sound like Cold Play and Adele) It’s the music you hear coming from construction sites in both the US and Mexico. What you’ll hear in taxis, too. It’s listened to by about 75% of the Mexican population.

    But since the white minority controls the entertainment industry, it’s almost never heard on Mexican TV. Also, in some cities and towns, you’ll find a dozen radio stations playing white Mexican rock and pop or gringo rock and pop, but only one or two radio stations playing Mexican music. When I moved down here in 2004, there was no FM station playing this music in my city. I had to listen AM radio for the first 4 or 5 years!! It’s kinda sick, really. But it’s one of the downsides of living in a country dominated by an unimaginative, mostly talentless, white minority.

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    Sucky Mexican cinema produced by White Mexicans?? You must mean movies like Luis Estrada's (El Productor Bolillo) "La Dictadura Perfecta", heh?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perfect_Dictatorship

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/img/2012/08/Esp/luis_estrada_cine.jpg&imgrefurl=http://alchetron.com/Luis-Estrada-(director)-528707-W&h=380&w=302&tbnid=ahjDReISYiUoaM:&tbnh=186&tbnw=147&docid=Ph9dsr-mO57mlM&itg=1&usg=__kfomBun84GFylKAuK5fC61qAWrk=
    , @Nico

    a country dominated by an unimaginative, mostly talentless, white minority
     
    I don't think the old Mexican ruling class is quite so bad as that. Though, granted, they have pretty much been squandering their potential ever since they drove Agostino de Iturbe off the throne, i.e. almost the entirety of their country's independence.
    , @Anonymous
    "In contrast, real authentic Mexican music and food are created by the brown Mestizo masses."

    Really?

    So Polka music was created in Mexico? lol

    Most of that "real" Mexican music you mention is based on Polish and German music. Brought in by that "weak talentless white minority" you mention.

    "For instance, Mexican TV and movies. The industry is dominated by white Mexicans and puts out absolutely horrendous crap. "

    And the Mexican public eats it up. Voraciously.

    If all the TV Novelas were cancelled tomorrow, there would be riots in the streets.

    You don't know shit except for your bigotry.
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  13. Pepe says:
    @uslabor
    Rodriquez may have more European blood in him than most Mestizos, but el tiene un "nopal en frente". No gringo, he.

    To be Mexican is more of question of nationality than ethnicity. Salma Hayek, and Carlos slim were both born in Mexico to fathers who immigrated from Lebanon. The are Italian, Russian, and Canadian Mennonite communities that have been in Mexico for generations. It was the German immigrants to Mexico that founded most of the beer breweries there.

    And they're all Mexicans, even the white ones.

    Rodriquez may have more European blood in him than most Mestizos, but el tiene un “nopal en frente”. No gringo, he.

    His Mexican themed movies, such as the “Mariachi” and “Machete” films, are embarrassing. They appear to be parodies of what a Gringo wannabe-Mexican director would make.

    Of course he plays in a rock band. How original.

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  14. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @uslabor
    Yeah, Arellano wants you to hate Mexicans, but I have feeling you've hated Mexicans all along and use Gustavo's column as pretext for it.

    The US was founded for white people only? Maybe, but get ready to be the minority- real soon.

    I think a measured reply to that threatening (& salivating) tone is:

    yes, we’ll get ready. Meanwhile, the Soon Majority must be ready to keep being led (by the nose, when seen as fit) by a small circle of people whose names end in -kins, moore, -witz, -berg, -stein, -ton, and so on.

    If some of them think this will change, they’re going to be disappointed.
    The law of IQ is firm. Has always been, will always be.

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  15. Stealth says:
    @uslabor
    Yeah, Arellano wants you to hate Mexicans, but I have feeling you've hated Mexicans all along and use Gustavo's column as pretext for it.

    The US was founded for white people only? Maybe, but get ready to be the minority- real soon.

    The US was founded for white people only? Maybe, but get ready to be the minority- real soon.

    Actually, yes it was. That’s certainly the way the Founders saw things. That’s true whether Euro-Americans become a minority or not.

    I’ve never understood why non-whites are itching so badly for this to happen. They fantasize about the day they’re in charge and get to make those crackers pay. However, most of them are here because they or their parents/grandparents wanted to live among those very same whites they despise. In that sense, we white Americans are not unlike the goose that laid the golden egg.

    Most Mexican Americans are nice, but they’re not known for making nice places to live. Out of curiosity, where will everybody run to when whites have been finally been extirpated by way of low birth rates and exogamy?

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  16. @Pepe

    Don’t listen to Pepe
     
    Generally it's not a good idea to tell people what to do. Especially people you don't know.

    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don’t listen to them.
     
    I rest my case on that point.

    I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker. OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico?
     
    You seem to mistake me for someone who defends all things Mexican. That tends to be what wannabe Mexicans do - as they eat their burrito or chimichanga listening to Los Lobos. While they think about moving to Mexico "one of these days."

    In general, and as one would expect, the more authentic aspects of Mexican culture are those created by the majority, brown Mestizo population. Mexico is about 70% Mestizo, so any aspect of Mexican culture not using this 70% will tend to be weak and lame.

    For instance, Mexican TV and movies. The industry is dominated by white Mexicans and puts out absolutely horrendous crap. The movie industry is so bad, Cuarón, del Toro, and Iñárritu literally had to flee the country like refugees to make decent films.

    The same is true for Mexican rock and pop music. It's created overwhelmingly by rich white Mexicans for rich white spoiled Mexicans kids (the so called "Mirreyes" - google it).

    In contrast, real authentic Mexican music and food are created by the brown Mestizo masses. It's possible you've never heard real Mexican music or tasted real Mexican food. Last week I described some of my favorite (real) Mexican foods, and in previous posts I've written about the real Mexican music I like.

    Some of the worst Mexican food I’ve ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.
     
    Again, I rest my case. I've lived in central Mexico for 12 years, and I go up to south Texas twice a year. The "Tex-Mex" food available in Texas is notoriously non-Mexican and atrocious.

    The Mexican music I refer to is avoided by the tiny white minority in Mexico. (They're ashamed of it and think Mexican music should sound like Cold Play and Adele) It's the music you hear coming from construction sites in both the US and Mexico. What you'll hear in taxis, too. It's listened to by about 75% of the Mexican population.

    But since the white minority controls the entertainment industry, it's almost never heard on Mexican TV. Also, in some cities and towns, you'll find a dozen radio stations playing white Mexican rock and pop or gringo rock and pop, but only one or two radio stations playing Mexican music. When I moved down here in 2004, there was no FM station playing this music in my city. I had to listen AM radio for the first 4 or 5 years!! It's kinda sick, really. But it's one of the downsides of living in a country dominated by an unimaginative, mostly talentless, white minority.
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    You must mean movies like Luis Estrada’s (El Productor Bolillo) “La Dictadura Perfecta”, heh?
     
    "La Ley de Herodes" (1999) is very good. It does a good job explaining, in a clever and amusing way, how modern Mexico got so screwed up.

    "El Infierno" (2010) was OK, but showed signs of decay. "La Dictadura Perfecta" (2014) was very weak. He missed a great opportunity there.
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  17. Nico says:
    @Pepe

    Don’t listen to Pepe
     
    Generally it's not a good idea to tell people what to do. Especially people you don't know.

    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don’t listen to them.
     
    I rest my case on that point.

    I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker. OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico?
     
    You seem to mistake me for someone who defends all things Mexican. That tends to be what wannabe Mexicans do - as they eat their burrito or chimichanga listening to Los Lobos. While they think about moving to Mexico "one of these days."

    In general, and as one would expect, the more authentic aspects of Mexican culture are those created by the majority, brown Mestizo population. Mexico is about 70% Mestizo, so any aspect of Mexican culture not using this 70% will tend to be weak and lame.

    For instance, Mexican TV and movies. The industry is dominated by white Mexicans and puts out absolutely horrendous crap. The movie industry is so bad, Cuarón, del Toro, and Iñárritu literally had to flee the country like refugees to make decent films.

    The same is true for Mexican rock and pop music. It's created overwhelmingly by rich white Mexicans for rich white spoiled Mexicans kids (the so called "Mirreyes" - google it).

    In contrast, real authentic Mexican music and food are created by the brown Mestizo masses. It's possible you've never heard real Mexican music or tasted real Mexican food. Last week I described some of my favorite (real) Mexican foods, and in previous posts I've written about the real Mexican music I like.

    Some of the worst Mexican food I’ve ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.
     
    Again, I rest my case. I've lived in central Mexico for 12 years, and I go up to south Texas twice a year. The "Tex-Mex" food available in Texas is notoriously non-Mexican and atrocious.

    The Mexican music I refer to is avoided by the tiny white minority in Mexico. (They're ashamed of it and think Mexican music should sound like Cold Play and Adele) It's the music you hear coming from construction sites in both the US and Mexico. What you'll hear in taxis, too. It's listened to by about 75% of the Mexican population.

    But since the white minority controls the entertainment industry, it's almost never heard on Mexican TV. Also, in some cities and towns, you'll find a dozen radio stations playing white Mexican rock and pop or gringo rock and pop, but only one or two radio stations playing Mexican music. When I moved down here in 2004, there was no FM station playing this music in my city. I had to listen AM radio for the first 4 or 5 years!! It's kinda sick, really. But it's one of the downsides of living in a country dominated by an unimaginative, mostly talentless, white minority.

    a country dominated by an unimaginative, mostly talentless, white minority

    I don’t think the old Mexican ruling class is quite so bad as that. Though, granted, they have pretty much been squandering their potential ever since they drove Agostino de Iturbe off the throne, i.e. almost the entirety of their country’s independence.

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    I forgot to mention - racist and corrupt.
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    @Nico

    a country dominated by an unimaginative, mostly talentless, white minority
     
    I don't think the old Mexican ruling class is quite so bad as that. Though, granted, they have pretty much been squandering their potential ever since they drove Agostino de Iturbe off the throne, i.e. almost the entirety of their country's independence.

    I forgot to mention – racist and corrupt.

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    Corrupt - probably. Gets back to my point about squandering their potential for the past two centuries.

    Racist - who the hell cares??
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  19. Pepe says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Sucky Mexican cinema produced by White Mexicans?? You must mean movies like Luis Estrada's (El Productor Bolillo) "La Dictadura Perfecta", heh?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perfect_Dictatorship

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/img/2012/08/Esp/luis_estrada_cine.jpg&imgrefurl=http://alchetron.com/Luis-Estrada-(director)-528707-W&h=380&w=302&tbnid=ahjDReISYiUoaM:&tbnh=186&tbnw=147&docid=Ph9dsr-mO57mlM&itg=1&usg=__kfomBun84GFylKAuK5fC61qAWrk=

    You must mean movies like Luis Estrada’s (El Productor Bolillo) “La Dictadura Perfecta”, heh?

    “La Ley de Herodes” (1999) is very good. It does a good job explaining, in a clever and amusing way, how modern Mexico got so screwed up.

    “El Infierno” (2010) was OK, but showed signs of decay. “La Dictadura Perfecta” (2014) was very weak. He missed a great opportunity there.

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  20. Nico says:
    @Pepe
    I forgot to mention - racist and corrupt.

    Corrupt – probably. Gets back to my point about squandering their potential for the past two centuries.

    Racist – who the hell cares??

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    Racist – who the hell cares??
     
    Well, it depends what you mean by "racism."

    If you're talking about the "racism" denounced in the US, where it only means different outcomes for different groups, I agree with you. Who cares?

    But if you're talking about racism where a ruling class (a small minority in Mexico) literally views the darker races as sub-human and treats them as such, then the country and the ruling class can suffer for not using the talents, however limited, available in what they view as the "lower races."

    This is the kind of racism you find in Mexico. I think it holds back the Mexican economy and retards Mexican culture. And it explains why so many flee to the US, where they're treated with more respect and dignity.

    It can also answer the question why a country of 120 million (or 150 million if you count the Mexicans in the US) accomplishes so little with so many resources. If you consider about 90% of the Mexican population is excluded from active participation, you're really talking about a country of about 10-15 million people. About one quarter the population of Spain or Argentina.

    , @Pepe

    Corrupt – probably.
     
    Probably? Really??
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  21. Pepe says:
    @Nico
    Corrupt - probably. Gets back to my point about squandering their potential for the past two centuries.

    Racist - who the hell cares??

    Racist – who the hell cares??

    Well, it depends what you mean by “racism.”

    If you’re talking about the “racism” denounced in the US, where it only means different outcomes for different groups, I agree with you. Who cares?

    But if you’re talking about racism where a ruling class (a small minority in Mexico) literally views the darker races as sub-human and treats them as such, then the country and the ruling class can suffer for not using the talents, however limited, available in what they view as the “lower races.”

    This is the kind of racism you find in Mexico. I think it holds back the Mexican economy and retards Mexican culture. And it explains why so many flee to the US, where they’re treated with more respect and dignity.

    It can also answer the question why a country of 120 million (or 150 million if you count the Mexicans in the US) accomplishes so little with so many resources. If you consider about 90% of the Mexican population is excluded from active participation, you’re really talking about a country of about 10-15 million people. About one quarter the population of Spain or Argentina.

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    Good post!
    , @Nico
    I would agree the indigenous and mestizo peons who cross the Rio Grande manage a good cut better than their cousins south of the border, but theirs is often not exactly enviable by U.S. standards. At a certain point one has to ask if there is not something other than the White Devil Oppressor holding the masses back, especially since they are the majority in a formally democratic country. Why have they not elected a Hugo Chavez to right all their wrongs and bring confidence and prosperity? Ah ha...
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  22. Pepe says:
    @Nico
    Corrupt - probably. Gets back to my point about squandering their potential for the past two centuries.

    Racist - who the hell cares??

    Corrupt – probably.

    Probably? Really??

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  23. Clyde says:
    @Pepe

    Racist – who the hell cares??
     
    Well, it depends what you mean by "racism."

    If you're talking about the "racism" denounced in the US, where it only means different outcomes for different groups, I agree with you. Who cares?

    But if you're talking about racism where a ruling class (a small minority in Mexico) literally views the darker races as sub-human and treats them as such, then the country and the ruling class can suffer for not using the talents, however limited, available in what they view as the "lower races."

    This is the kind of racism you find in Mexico. I think it holds back the Mexican economy and retards Mexican culture. And it explains why so many flee to the US, where they're treated with more respect and dignity.

    It can also answer the question why a country of 120 million (or 150 million if you count the Mexicans in the US) accomplishes so little with so many resources. If you consider about 90% of the Mexican population is excluded from active participation, you're really talking about a country of about 10-15 million people. About one quarter the population of Spain or Argentina.

    Good post!

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  24. Nico says:
    @Pepe

    Racist – who the hell cares??
     
    Well, it depends what you mean by "racism."

    If you're talking about the "racism" denounced in the US, where it only means different outcomes for different groups, I agree with you. Who cares?

    But if you're talking about racism where a ruling class (a small minority in Mexico) literally views the darker races as sub-human and treats them as such, then the country and the ruling class can suffer for not using the talents, however limited, available in what they view as the "lower races."

    This is the kind of racism you find in Mexico. I think it holds back the Mexican economy and retards Mexican culture. And it explains why so many flee to the US, where they're treated with more respect and dignity.

    It can also answer the question why a country of 120 million (or 150 million if you count the Mexicans in the US) accomplishes so little with so many resources. If you consider about 90% of the Mexican population is excluded from active participation, you're really talking about a country of about 10-15 million people. About one quarter the population of Spain or Argentina.

    I would agree the indigenous and mestizo peons who cross the Rio Grande manage a good cut better than their cousins south of the border, but theirs is often not exactly enviable by U.S. standards. At a certain point one has to ask if there is not something other than the White Devil Oppressor holding the masses back, especially since they are the majority in a formally democratic country. Why have they not elected a Hugo Chavez to right all their wrongs and bring confidence and prosperity? Ah ha…

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    At a certain point one has to ask if there is not something other than the White Devil Oppressor holding the masses back, especially since they are the majority in a formally democratic country
     
    It's good you added "formally." On paper, the Mexican constitution looks great, too...

    But in politics, like most things, the difference between form and substance is a difference that makes a difference.

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  25. Pepe says:
    @Nico
    I would agree the indigenous and mestizo peons who cross the Rio Grande manage a good cut better than their cousins south of the border, but theirs is often not exactly enviable by U.S. standards. At a certain point one has to ask if there is not something other than the White Devil Oppressor holding the masses back, especially since they are the majority in a formally democratic country. Why have they not elected a Hugo Chavez to right all their wrongs and bring confidence and prosperity? Ah ha...

    At a certain point one has to ask if there is not something other than the White Devil Oppressor holding the masses back, especially since they are the majority in a formally democratic country

    It’s good you added “formally.” On paper, the Mexican constitution looks great, too…

    But in politics, like most things, the difference between form and substance is a difference that makes a difference.

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    @Pepe

    Don’t listen to Pepe
     
    Generally it's not a good idea to tell people what to do. Especially people you don't know.

    Los Lobos are great, but Mexicans don’t listen to them.
     
    I rest my case on that point.

    I love Manà and so does my Mexican-American co-worker. OK, Pepe, are new wave, American/European style Mexican movies bad compared to the really pathetic, badly acted, written, directed Mexican movies popular in Mexico?
     
    You seem to mistake me for someone who defends all things Mexican. That tends to be what wannabe Mexicans do - as they eat their burrito or chimichanga listening to Los Lobos. While they think about moving to Mexico "one of these days."

    In general, and as one would expect, the more authentic aspects of Mexican culture are those created by the majority, brown Mestizo population. Mexico is about 70% Mestizo, so any aspect of Mexican culture not using this 70% will tend to be weak and lame.

    For instance, Mexican TV and movies. The industry is dominated by white Mexicans and puts out absolutely horrendous crap. The movie industry is so bad, Cuarón, del Toro, and Iñárritu literally had to flee the country like refugees to make decent films.

    The same is true for Mexican rock and pop music. It's created overwhelmingly by rich white Mexicans for rich white spoiled Mexicans kids (the so called "Mirreyes" - google it).

    In contrast, real authentic Mexican music and food are created by the brown Mestizo masses. It's possible you've never heard real Mexican music or tasted real Mexican food. Last week I described some of my favorite (real) Mexican foods, and in previous posts I've written about the real Mexican music I like.

    Some of the worst Mexican food I’ve ever had was in Mexico and some of the best was in San Antonio and in New Mexico.
     
    Again, I rest my case. I've lived in central Mexico for 12 years, and I go up to south Texas twice a year. The "Tex-Mex" food available in Texas is notoriously non-Mexican and atrocious.

    The Mexican music I refer to is avoided by the tiny white minority in Mexico. (They're ashamed of it and think Mexican music should sound like Cold Play and Adele) It's the music you hear coming from construction sites in both the US and Mexico. What you'll hear in taxis, too. It's listened to by about 75% of the Mexican population.

    But since the white minority controls the entertainment industry, it's almost never heard on Mexican TV. Also, in some cities and towns, you'll find a dozen radio stations playing white Mexican rock and pop or gringo rock and pop, but only one or two radio stations playing Mexican music. When I moved down here in 2004, there was no FM station playing this music in my city. I had to listen AM radio for the first 4 or 5 years!! It's kinda sick, really. But it's one of the downsides of living in a country dominated by an unimaginative, mostly talentless, white minority.

    “In contrast, real authentic Mexican music and food are created by the brown Mestizo masses.”

    Really?

    So Polka music was created in Mexico? lol

    Most of that “real” Mexican music you mention is based on Polish and German music. Brought in by that “weak talentless white minority” you mention.

    “For instance, Mexican TV and movies. The industry is dominated by white Mexicans and puts out absolutely horrendous crap. ”

    And the Mexican public eats it up. Voraciously.

    If all the TV Novelas were cancelled tomorrow, there would be riots in the streets.

    You don’t know shit except for your bigotry.

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  27. Pepe says:

    So Polka music was created in Mexico? lol

    Most of that “real” Mexican music you mention is based on Polish and German music. Brought in by that “weak talentless white minority” you mention.

    I wasn’t referring to the roots of the music. I was referring to who creates the music today, not 100 years ago. Just look at the Mexicans playing Mexican music (banda and norteña) today. Overwhelmingly brown.

    The Mexicans playing rock and pop are overwhelmingly white. It’s created for the rich, white minority. And the rock and pop sucks.

    And the Mexican public eats it up. Voraciously.

    That doesn’t mean it’s not absolutely horrendous crap. Created by the talentless white minority. Like the rock and pop.

    The TV duopoly in Mexico, controlled by the corrupt and racist white minority, makes it impossible for mestizos or indigenas to appear in this media. The music industry is a little more decentralized, and that’s allowed mestizo talent to emerge.

    You don’t know shit except for your bigotry.

    Real bright comment.

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    That doesn’t mean it’s not absolutely horrendous crap. Created by the talentless white minority. Like the rock and pop.
     
    I invite you to take a look at some of the Latino Pop channels in the U.S. where mestizos get slightly more leverage and air time. It's not any better. Neither is most of the music they patronize, and "Mexican" restaurants in the U.S. don't even come close to the high cuisine of Mexico.
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  28. Nico says:
    @Pepe

    So Polka music was created in Mexico? lol

    Most of that “real” Mexican music you mention is based on Polish and German music. Brought in by that “weak talentless white minority” you mention.
     
    I wasn't referring to the roots of the music. I was referring to who creates the music today, not 100 years ago. Just look at the Mexicans playing Mexican music (banda and norteña) today. Overwhelmingly brown.

    The Mexicans playing rock and pop are overwhelmingly white. It's created for the rich, white minority. And the rock and pop sucks.

    And the Mexican public eats it up. Voraciously.
     
    That doesn't mean it's not absolutely horrendous crap. Created by the talentless white minority. Like the rock and pop.

    The TV duopoly in Mexico, controlled by the corrupt and racist white minority, makes it impossible for mestizos or indigenas to appear in this media. The music industry is a little more decentralized, and that's allowed mestizo talent to emerge.

    You don’t know shit except for your bigotry.
     
    Real bright comment.

    That doesn’t mean it’s not absolutely horrendous crap. Created by the talentless white minority. Like the rock and pop.

    I invite you to take a look at some of the Latino Pop channels in the U.S. where mestizos get slightly more leverage and air time. It’s not any better. Neither is most of the music they patronize, and “Mexican” restaurants in the U.S. don’t even come close to the high cuisine of Mexico.

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