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Regarding Latinos not as citizens but as internal enemies of America is an idea pushed not just by many racialist websites (e.g., Vdare).but also by Donald Trump. The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation. Hostility intensifies as one moves farther along the right wing to where the feathers end and giddy space begins.

It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years. The streets are not strewn with garbage, it is not legal to screw little girls of twelve years, guns for home defense are not illegal, and Mexican school children behave like everybody else’s. The racialist sites often do not check facts, do not correct false claims when notified of them, and not infrequently simply lie. Many of the leaders seem never to have been to Mexico, speak Spanish, or have the foggiest notions of the world below the Rio Bravo.

The President agrees with them. He is openly hostile to some 43 million American citizens. He has placed Mexico itself among “our enemies,” His “Mexicans are rapists” assertion resonated among Latinos much as Hillary’s Deplorables among Americans. How smart is this?

Not very. In fact it is wrong, dangerous, stupid, and threatens disastrous consequences.

Let’s take a quick look at some numbers. Census figures show 57 million Latinos in the US,. Perhaps 12 millions of them being illegal. Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,

In short, the number of Latinos is not going to change much whatever Trump does. There will be at least fifty million in the country regardless of anyone’s politics. Trump will deport enough to keep tension high but not enough to make a statistically noticeable difference. Most of the Latinos are, and more will be, American citizens. Treat them as internal enemies and they will likely become such–wouldn’t you?–with grievous results lasting for generations. This would suit the Alt-Right fine, but be ruinous for America.

There arise hard questions and curious situations. For example, the Left and businessmen do not want illegals expelled, businessmen because they like cheap labor that cannot organize, and the Left for the votes and because many think deportation cruel. The anti-immigrant people do not want to grant amnesty. This makes the illegals an underclass of twelve million unable to start businesses, go to college, or get good jobs. Brilliant. Exactly what the country needs. Further, the people who complain that the illegals are badly schooled want to deny education to undocumented children. This would produce a large number of irremediably unemployable illiterates. What a swell idea.

Add Trump. He too quite obviously loathes Mexico and Mexicans, probably because he failed in a couple of crooked real-estate deals here. He is supposed to be the President of all Americans. He is not. When he plays to his base by attacking something like seventeen percent of the citizenry, he is doing the country no favor.

Permitting mass immigration, like importing slaves, was a bad idea, but it was done. The time to stop immigration is when it begins. When numbers reach a vague tipping point, it becomes irreversible. This has long since happened. Note that it was an inside job. Patriotic American businessmen have encouraged immigration, Congress has condoned it as have both political parties and Presidents–except Obama, who did everything he could to encourage it. The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted.

The future? Many fear that Latinos won’t assimilate, the Alt-Right that they will. The desire of the latter, often explicitly stated, is for racial purity of European stock, and Mexican girls are alarmingly attractive. While racial purity is in bad odor currently, it is actually a very good idea–if you can get it. No diversity, no racial strife, riots, burning cities, or endless anger over immigration. The white race has been by far the most successful and creative the planet has known. A desire to keep it around makes great sense. Well and good. Fine.

Unfortunately you cannot have both assimilation and racial purity. It is one or the other. If you concern is the well being of America, you want good relations with the newcomers, inevitably leading to intermarriage. If purity is your goal, you want bad relations, and the worse the better. To all appearances, the racialist websites are working toward the latter end. Trump, however intentionally, aids and abets.

A degree of friction between the races cannot be avoided. A small town in Tennessee does not like being descended upon by people of an unfamiliar culture. But the descenders have descended, with the explicit help of the federal government. They will not undescend. When a situation cannot be changed, it must be dealt with. The practical question, for anyone who gives a damn about the country, for anyone who has to live in it or has kids who will, is how to make the best of things as they exist.

Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.” It is probably the best approach available. Yet to accept it is to concede the legitimacy of the citizenship of a minimum of forty-some million Latinos. Racial and ethnic purists cannot bring themselves to do this, so they vituperate and vituperate. The constructive value is not clear. What do they expect to achieve?

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How to assimilate Latinos? A good question, grist for another column. Everywhere I have been–LA, San Fran, Houston, San Antonio, Chicago, New York City, and Washington, DC–the problem has seemed to be solving itself. Mexicans worked as cashiers, bus drivers, waiters, and secretaries, and spoke English. But LA is not Wheeling, and California is not Arizona.

A statistic that will hearten assimilationists and revolt genetic purists is that (if Pew is to be believed) the rate of intermarriage between white and brown is twenty-six percent, higher among the second generation than the first, and higher between the well educated than the less so. For what it’s worth, Latinos who speak unaccented American English cease to seem very Latino.

Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

Working toward successful assimilation is that Mexicans are Christian, heavily European in their roots, live in amity with a million American expats in Mexico, and as a race are demonstrably able to run modern cities universities, and such. Unlike blacks and Muslims, they do not see whites and Christians as mortal enemies. Much depends on keeping things this way.

But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

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  1. I dunno, Fred … showing pictures of latina honeys doesn’t necessarily help the medicine go down, but it doesn’t hurt.

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    • Replies: @David
    She looks 14. She'll be a fudge colored Michelin man in 6 years.
    , @LauraMR
    Indeed.

    Besides, there is plenty of overlapping hatred going around.

    For instance, constantly attacking [half the population, that is, men] as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.
    , @gustafus
    that Latina Honey is not of the demographic that migrates... she is Castillian elite.

    the small, wide, brown, ignorant low IQ indian population is who comes here.... where they bloat our school budgets just getting their clutch of kids to speak Spanish OR English... most are illiterate.

    Latinos in New Mexico are even upset that sports programs are being cut because illegals soak up school budgets ,... and they still turn out ignorant, violent, breeding worthless hordes.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Calling all honeys! Except black.
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  2. Talha says:

    Unlike blacks and Muslims, they do not see whites and Christians as mortal enemies.

    Keep the Mexicans, but we gotta deal with the Blacks and Muslims – got it!

    And…oh – crap for crap – will you look at that:
    ” A report from Press-Enterprise called the Latino Muslims one of the fastest-growing ethnic groups in the nation. Statistics isn’t tracked, but the report said there are an estimated 150,000 converts in the country.”

    http://www.latinpost.com/articles/105363/20151230/number-latinos-converting-islam-growing.htm

    And most of them are chicas – orale homes!
    “About 90 percent of that are converts, and of those converts, most are women.”

    https://www.vibe.com/2016/09/growing-number-latinas-convert-islam/

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    When you see stats like that, you start to wonder if the western world needs its men to go back to the days of abusing and degrading their women ... it seems they want it.
    , @(((Owen)))

    estimated 150,000 converts in the country.
     
    That's more than 10x the number of Moslems in all of Mexico, according to the Mexican Census which tracks such numbers.
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  3. The time to stop immigration is when it begins. When numbers reach a vague tipping point, it becomes irreversible.

    What a lack of vision. Where’s your can-do American spirit? Yes We Can!

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    • Replies: @Joe Wong
    You surely prove Holocaust deniers are liars.
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  4. That’s a lot of straw men for one column, Fred. However, this terribly insecure (that is your implication, correct) alt-righter happens to agree with your statement and, presumably, your position on the subject:

    Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”

    Now, on to the ususal Fred silliness when he writes about Mexico, the U.S. and the alt-right. It gets tedious to continually refute what Fred writes, but as we know from experience, it doesn’t pay to let such things slide.

    First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It’s beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don’t under the statistical term “average.” Please stop. It’s embarassing, and you are so much better than that.

    Please try to remember that some of your readers have been to Spain and lived near barrios. We know what each group looks like. Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it’s raining.

    The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation.

    Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing. However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people’s children.

    I only want for my people what the Jews or the Japanese or the Koreans want for their people. Why do you attacks whites but not those peoples?

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years.

    I am quite certain that this is true. However, you seem to extrapolate your personal experience to the entire country. Indeed, one need only to click over to Sailer today to get a taste of what Mexico is like for those not fortunate enough to live in Fred’s neighborhood.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/impunity/

    Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,

    Agreed this is silly, but denying these people jobs and government benefits likely would result in many going home on their own.

    The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted

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    True dat.

    Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

    There’s also the little matter of average IQ. Mestizo IQ (no, Fred, not the South Americans with 90% European ancestry that you love to showcase, but your average native mix) is likely in the ball park of the low 90s. Better than blacks but significantly lower than whites. Perhaps we’ll find that better nutrition and environment will push that number to the mid to upper 90s, but the academic achievements of second and third generation Latinos in the U.S. indicate that this is not the case.

    That IQ gap will be a difficult impediment to full assimilation. Latinos will notice that they are thin on the ground in higher professions.

    But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

    True, but not getting control of the border will certainly lead to friction. Also, not acknowledging inherent differences and pointing and sputtersing like a SJW anytime someone does won’t improve relations either.

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    Excellent rebuttal of another jejeune Reed surrender screed.
    , @Tony
    "Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it’s raining."

    Watch out there. Fred may take you up on that offer.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Very good refutation--can't really improve on it. Fred really should avoid writing on the subject of Mexico and Mexicans--his lack of emotional distance warps his judgment. One most other subjects, he's quite good. One factor that I think Fred overlooks is irrendist tendencies of Mexicans/Hispanics. If and when secession comes, it'll most likely be in the American Southwest/West, led by a charismatic Hispanic who'll pledge to cleanse the Republica del Norte of Negroes and Chinamen and to retain only enough whites to keep the standard of living from plunging.
    , @Corvinus
    "First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It’s beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don’t under the statistical term “average.”"

    So what is this "statistical average" regarding the beauty of the average Mestizo. What metrics are involved here?

    "Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing."

    Come again, who are "your people"?

    "However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people’s children."

    Except you do hate people who are other than your own.

    "There’s also the little matter of average IQ."

    Which in the end is overrated. Which in the end is due to biological and environmental factors.
    , @Wally
    Let's get real here:

    Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while they demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.
    , @Buck Turgidson
    Fred we need to take you to my physician's office in N Va some time. The place swarms with women from Latin America -- NONE of which look like the young lady in the photo. All of which have 2-3 children in tow (none of whom speak English BTW).

    You cannot believe the warmth this sends through my system knowing that the health care costs for all of them come out of my overtaxed and not wealthy carcass
    , @Sandmich
    Thanks for that breakdown. Whenever I read something half-baked like this article I don't even know where to begin with a breakdown since the author is so removed from actual reality. I just caught that news story where Mexican bar tenders at resorts are slipping Yankees mickies, nasty business that, great law and order from the land of Fred's dream. If I had to choose between Hillary going to jail, or a drugging rapist at a local watering hole, I think I know which I'd choose.
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  5. Forbes says:

    Assimilation as an assumption for American cultural identity was replaced by multiculturalism two generations ago.

    The cult of multiculturalism assumes racial/ethnic-identity–which includes the championing of diversity. Yet, the reigning mantra of the progressive left of “diversity and inclusion” are two opposing creeds. It is a slow motion head-on collision in progress–and Fred says whites must yield the way, ‘cuz “whadya gonna do?”

    “Mexican girls are alarmingly attractive.” Huh? Please. Alarmingly obese, as observed in NYC.

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    “Mexican girls are alarmingly attractive.” Huh? Please. Alarmingly obese, as observed in NYC.
     
    Absolutely! And any man who's watched cohorts of temporarily very attractive young women advance into their late twenties and beyond can take one look at the chubby cheeks and underlying bone structure of the cheesecake provided by Mr. Reed and predict an unpleasant surprise for the hormone addled youth who marries her.
    , @White Noise
    Hate to mention the obvious... but if you're gonna talk about obese women, Americans are probably the current world champions, as it is.
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    How about Salvadorian gangs at Long Island, NY ?

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  7. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's a lot of straw men for one column, Fred. However, this terribly insecure (that is your implication, correct) alt-righter happens to agree with your statement and, presumably, your position on the subject:

    Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”
     
    Now, on to the ususal Fred silliness when he writes about Mexico, the U.S. and the alt-right. It gets tedious to continually refute what Fred writes, but as we know from experience, it doesn't pay to let such things slide.

    First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It's beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don't under the statistical term "average." Please stop. It's embarassing, and you are so much better than that.

    Please try to remember that some of your readers have been to Spain and lived near barrios. We know what each group looks like. Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it's raining.

    The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation.

     

    Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing. However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people's children.

    I only want for my people what the Jews or the Japanese or the Koreans want for their people. Why do you attacks whites but not those peoples?

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years.

     

    I am quite certain that this is true. However, you seem to extrapolate your personal experience to the entire country. Indeed, one need only to click over to Sailer today to get a taste of what Mexico is like for those not fortunate enough to live in Fred's neighborhood.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/impunity/

    Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,
     
    Agreed this is silly, but denying these people jobs and government benefits likely would result in many going home on their own.

    The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted
     
    .

    True dat.

    Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

     

    There's also the little matter of average IQ. Mestizo IQ (no, Fred, not the South Americans with 90% European ancestry that you love to showcase, but your average native mix) is likely in the ball park of the low 90s. Better than blacks but significantly lower than whites. Perhaps we'll find that better nutrition and environment will push that number to the mid to upper 90s, but the academic achievements of second and third generation Latinos in the U.S. indicate that this is not the case.

    That IQ gap will be a difficult impediment to full assimilation. Latinos will notice that they are thin on the ground in higher professions.

    But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

     

    True, but not getting control of the border will certainly lead to friction. Also, not acknowledging inherent differences and pointing and sputtersing like a SJW anytime someone does won't improve relations either.

    Excellent rebuttal of another jejeune Reed surrender screed.

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  8. @Forbes
    Assimilation as an assumption for American cultural identity was replaced by multiculturalism two generations ago.

    The cult of multiculturalism assumes racial/ethnic-identity--which includes the championing of diversity. Yet, the reigning mantra of the progressive left of "diversity and inclusion" are two opposing creeds. It is a slow motion head-on collision in progress--and Fred says whites must yield the way, 'cuz "whadya gonna do?"

    "Mexican girls are alarmingly attractive." Huh? Please. Alarmingly obese, as observed in NYC.

    “Mexican girls are alarmingly attractive.” Huh? Please. Alarmingly obese, as observed in NYC.

    Absolutely! And any man who’s watched cohorts of temporarily very attractive young women advance into their late twenties and beyond can take one look at the chubby cheeks and underlying bone structure of the cheesecake provided by Mr. Reed and predict an unpleasant surprise for the hormone addled youth who marries her.

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    Oh gosh, that's the truth. A very good Catholic friend of mine did that. Ended up divorced with four kids because he "just grew incompatabile" with the Latina honey. I think in his case it was actually *intellectually* incompatible and in terms of *wanting things for his life* that he was incompatible ... not because her body corrupted so quickly. (However see George Bush for the latter scenario). Fooey on my friend for divorcing, bravo for GWB for not.
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  9. @Jus' Sayin'...

    “Mexican girls are alarmingly attractive.” Huh? Please. Alarmingly obese, as observed in NYC.
     
    Absolutely! And any man who's watched cohorts of temporarily very attractive young women advance into their late twenties and beyond can take one look at the chubby cheeks and underlying bone structure of the cheesecake provided by Mr. Reed and predict an unpleasant surprise for the hormone addled youth who marries her.

    Oh gosh, that’s the truth. A very good Catholic friend of mine did that. Ended up divorced with four kids because he “just grew incompatabile” with the Latina honey. I think in his case it was actually *intellectually* incompatible and in terms of *wanting things for his life* that he was incompatible … not because her body corrupted so quickly. (However see George Bush for the latter scenario). Fooey on my friend for divorcing, bravo for GWB for not.

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    Esteemed Father !
    ¿ By any chance did you mean Jeb Bush, instead of GWB ?
    , @Jim Christian
    It was JEB Bush. And THAT is the ugliest woman and combination of a man and woman I ever saw. She cost him the primary. When Trump started in on JEB, all we had to do was take one look at the wife and we knew Trump was right. For a man to marry a mud-fence looking troll like her told us all we needed to know about him. If he can't get his own bedroom in shape, what would he leave this country looking like?
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  10. Racial intermarriage needs to be only under the supervision of a qualified trad Catholic spiritual director. And only under exceptional circumstances. Like the conquistadores.

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    Racial intermarriage needs to be only under the supervision of a qualified trad Catholic spiritual director. And only under exceptional circumstances. Like the conquistadores.
     
    WWFCT. What would Father Coughlin think.

    I had an interracial epiphany in a dream. I'm an tall, handsome American white male of NW European attraction. Up until the age of 25 I was only attracted to blond, Nordic-looking women. That's all I ever dated and mated with. Never attracted to any other race. Not Asian and certainly not black (yuck). Then one night I had a dream I was in a Japanese (or Korean) garden with a NE Asian women just holding hands and looking into her eyes. That was it, nothing more. I woke up and since that day, now over two decades later, I've never been attracted to a white women again. Any white woman. Yet there are almost no NE Asian women whom I see that I'm not obsessively attracted to and think are the most beautiful creature I've ever seen. I found and married the most NE Asian-looking (epicanthic) woman I could find. Now I find myself fantasizing about her 70-year old aunts who can't speak any English (i.e., even more NE Asian than my immigrant wife b/c they haven't learned English).

    I'm sure Derb can relate.
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    @Father Coughlin
    Oh gosh, that's the truth. A very good Catholic friend of mine did that. Ended up divorced with four kids because he "just grew incompatabile" with the Latina honey. I think in his case it was actually *intellectually* incompatible and in terms of *wanting things for his life* that he was incompatible ... not because her body corrupted so quickly. (However see George Bush for the latter scenario). Fooey on my friend for divorcing, bravo for GWB for not.

    Esteemed Father !
    ¿ By any chance did you mean Jeb Bush, instead of GWB ?

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    Yeah, GW Bush married a nice white librarian who, at the age of 17, ran through a stop sign and killed someone who reputedly was her ex boyfriend. Accident. Right.
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  12. There are lots of things wrong with this column. Trump isn’t against Mexicans or Latinos (neither of which is a race). He is against illegal immigration and the problems it causes, which will grow if not checked.

    People here illegally cannot work legally so they have to get fake IDs probably stolen from a US citizen making identity theft more likely. From there, the crimes continue, driving without a license, without insurance, fraudulent Social Security numbers and so on.

    Remember that we are in a state of emergency since 9/11. America is under lock-down. How can you have a surveillance/security state where DHS gropes citizens and steals their property at will, in the name of National Security, while leaving the borders wide open and undefended?

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  13. Can Fred Reed cite an example of a Latin American country which has achieved much of anything?

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter…or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.

    If these people are as talented as white people then why don’t they achieve in their own countries?

    Deporting hispanics en masse is unlikely to happen under President Trump since he’s a restorationist, mid-century American. And let us not forget that he’s a baby boomer, much like Fred Trump, and apparently most baby boomers find it impossible to cuck.

    Central and Eastern European countries had no trouble deporting 13 million Germans in 1945. This was done in six months.

    You mean to tell me we can’t do what Poland in 1945 did?

    Give be a break. As I usually state in these comments–why oh why Fred is it so hard for you to not advocate for another racial-cultural group simply because you’re f@#$ing a member of one?

    I’ve enjoyed carnal relations with several of these oh-so-attractive latinas you’re always talking about, but it doesn’t change my politics.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Argentina, Uruguay, and possibly Chile are more white than the US is and likely ever was. There isn't much of an Amerindian presence. The last indigenous people in Tierra Del Fuego died out a long time ago. They had generous immigration policies for Europeans before WWII. These are nice countries and first world.
    , @Hubbub
    Let’s take a quick look at some numbers. Census figures show 57 million Latinos in the US,. Perhaps 12 millions of them being illegal. Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population

    Look, Fred, don't you see? Whatever number is deported - 10,000 or 10,000,000 - is that many illegals that are not in the country, competing with Americans for jobs, education, homes, neighborhoods, etc. and, remember also

    “Mexicans are rapists” may not be true to you, but it is true to the many, yes, many, girls and women who have been raped and abused by illegals. Perspective, Fred, not rhetoric.
    , @Njguy73

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter…or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.
     
    "Upon the independence of Argentina, the newborn country had a large territory but was thinly populated, and its ethnic composition was largely the same from the colonial era that had lasted from 16th to early 19th centuries. In the mid-19th century, a large wave of immigration started to arrive due to newly established Constitutional policies that encouraged immigration, and due to issues in the Old World such as wars, poverty, hunger, social unrest and pursuit for opportunities or a better life in the New World. This immigration was mostly from Europe but also from the Arab world, Russia and Japan....Thus, most Argentines are descendants of these 19th and 20th century immigrants, with about 97% of the population being of European or partial European descent. Arab descent is also significant (mostly of Syrian and Lebanese origin), and the Jewish population is the biggest in all Latin America (7th in the world)."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_of_Argentina

    , @Joe Wong
    Where is Wally? He said getting rid of 6 million Jews in 7 years was a scientific impossibility, yet the Poles got rid of 13 millions of Germans just in 6 months, in addition Pole and other Central and Eastern Europeans were actively helpers in the Nazi's purification job. It seems Wally wants to piss on everybody's head and telling them that it’s raining.
    , @L.K
    Hmm... you are actually comparing large scale and brutal ethnic cleansing of 14 million Germans from their ancestral homelands at the end of WW2, a process which caused the deaths of over a million, with the situation of illegal Hispanics in 2017, Zamerica... Wow, are you clever, boy...
    BTW, the ethnic cleansing lasted in some countries until the early 50s, and it was not just Poland but took place also in Czechoslovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia.

    Thorfinnsson: "Can Fred Reed cite an example of a Latin American country which has achieved much of anything?

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter…or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did."

    You mean something like this?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_E-Jet_family
    First Flight KC-390
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxRDSB7rPnQ

    You know the American M1 Abrams MBT? In the late 1980s the Brazilian made EE-T1 Osório beat it in trials. It also beat the French and the British:

    It(EE-T1 Osório) was evaluated against the French AMX 40, the American M1 Abrams, and the British Challenger 1 and emerged as the winner. The Osorio was quite cheap and affordable while having better results in the trials than the other three MBTs. In September 1989, Saudi Arabia quietly opted for the M1 Abrams instead...
     
    This was due to US political pressure.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EE-T1_Os%C3%B3rio
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  14. yeah says:

    Come on guys, really! Fred’s is a purely pragmatic argument, couched though it is in his usual tongue-in-cheek prose. And I am afraid his argument rests on math and logic – two notoriously difficult beasts to battle – and could well be correct. Short of someone coming up with a painless and ethical “final solution”, how on earth can America fix something that should never have been allowed to happen in the first place. Migrations across national frontiers, complicated by copulation across racial frontiers, does create some BIG problems that defy solution. Yes, I do believe this immigration thing needs a tight cap ASAP, but I don’t see any easy fix to the brain-dead policies of the past several decades. Posted in a spirit of peace, and with all humility rightly due to a problem of such huge proportions.

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    Yes, Fred is right about much. We won't be deporting millions of illegals, and they will eventually become citizens. Even if the don't, there children (and their children and their child, etc.) will.

    However, I'm sick of Fred trashing on any white who would like to see their people continue. Fred seems perfectly fine with Jews and Japanese and Koreans and Chinese maintaining racial "purity." It's only with us whites that he implies such desires are some form of weakness.

    Perhaps even entertaining such arguments prove him right. (I mean, the Japanese wouldn't take a Japanese Fred's ranting seriously because they'd never let it happen in the first place.)

    Fred's berating of alt-righters is personal. I'm no fan of commentators attacking Fred's wife and adopted children; however, Fred does not reciprocate. He attacks alt-righters in an extremely personal way, which suggests a very personal animosity rather than so much an ideological.

    Given how Fred writes about other topics (hint: he seems quite alt-rightish about everything but Mexico and Mexicans), his views on this topics seem quite curious.

    Fred can, of course, defend himself, but it's obvious to anyone who reads Fred's writings that his logic gets short-circuited when he writes about his adopted homeland and people, which is understandable. (I think my kids are pretty awesome.) However, readers should be aware of this blindspot.
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  15. Fred seems to think the welfare state & the borrowing binge will continue forever. He has lots of company.

    They will be proved very, very wrong. And the tolerance for culturally unassimilable people will evaporate.

    Violently, if history is any guide.

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  16. Tony says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's a lot of straw men for one column, Fred. However, this terribly insecure (that is your implication, correct) alt-righter happens to agree with your statement and, presumably, your position on the subject:

    Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”
     
    Now, on to the ususal Fred silliness when he writes about Mexico, the U.S. and the alt-right. It gets tedious to continually refute what Fred writes, but as we know from experience, it doesn't pay to let such things slide.

    First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It's beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don't under the statistical term "average." Please stop. It's embarassing, and you are so much better than that.

    Please try to remember that some of your readers have been to Spain and lived near barrios. We know what each group looks like. Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it's raining.

    The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation.

     

    Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing. However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people's children.

    I only want for my people what the Jews or the Japanese or the Koreans want for their people. Why do you attacks whites but not those peoples?

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years.

     

    I am quite certain that this is true. However, you seem to extrapolate your personal experience to the entire country. Indeed, one need only to click over to Sailer today to get a taste of what Mexico is like for those not fortunate enough to live in Fred's neighborhood.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/impunity/

    Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,
     
    Agreed this is silly, but denying these people jobs and government benefits likely would result in many going home on their own.

    The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted
     
    .

    True dat.

    Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

     

    There's also the little matter of average IQ. Mestizo IQ (no, Fred, not the South Americans with 90% European ancestry that you love to showcase, but your average native mix) is likely in the ball park of the low 90s. Better than blacks but significantly lower than whites. Perhaps we'll find that better nutrition and environment will push that number to the mid to upper 90s, but the academic achievements of second and third generation Latinos in the U.S. indicate that this is not the case.

    That IQ gap will be a difficult impediment to full assimilation. Latinos will notice that they are thin on the ground in higher professions.

    But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

     

    True, but not getting control of the border will certainly lead to friction. Also, not acknowledging inherent differences and pointing and sputtersing like a SJW anytime someone does won't improve relations either.

    “Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it’s raining.”

    Watch out there. Fred may take you up on that offer.

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  17. Just when I had begun to think that Fred’s meds had kicked in for good…..there he goes again (paraphrase of a statement by Ronald Reagan).

    Hey Fred. I live in Mexico. Today I read about the beheading of a woman because narcos.

    Hey Fred. I’ve listened to what Trump said, unlike you. You got confused, by words, my poor addled compatriot. You thought that Trump said something that he never said.

    And then you kind of took your misunderstanding and planted it somewhere and made it grow until it became an unrecognizable bramble-screed.

    I just couldn’t get past all of the stupidity, Fred. None of it is true, and none of it is real.

    Here’s something we know in Mexico, Fred. The pressure relief valve of the stupifying economic inequality here was the ability to go to gringolandia and work for 3 dollars an hour in the back of all of the restaurantes.

    When all those people get sent back to their country? Better run, Fred, better hide. Because it will be revolution time.

    Fred, why don’t you talk about the war on drugs and how it is needlessly killing the people you live with, and how it is destroying the fabric of the society in which you are proud to live?

    Why are you talking this utter nonsense that is none of your business. You don’t live in the US. Talk about where you are from, Fred. The problems.

    Make a difference, Fred. Talk against the insane war on drugs that Mexico is fighting solely because of United States pressure. Talk about the problems with corruptions and economic inequality that makes for a comfortable life style for you and yours.

    Trump is none of your business. Mexico is. Make Mexico your business, Fred.

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    Mexico is impossible to win the war on drug just like China was impossible to get rid of Opium because of the interference of the British, American, Japanese, etc. USA is the British in Mexican war on drug, the arms and interference from USA put Mexico in a similar situation when China was trying to get rid of Opium. It took the collapse of a dynasty and 150 years of foreign occupation, dominance, wars, civil wars, suffering and hundred of million of lives and broken families to get rid of the Opium and its lingering harmful effects.

    The West developed Orientalism to blame the Chinese for the demise situation they were in on the moral high ground, just like you are blaming Mexican for the horrible situation they are in due to drug. Your attitude is no different from the general public in Britain, USA, Japan, etc. during the time China was infested by Opium.
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  18. @yeah
    Come on guys, really! Fred's is a purely pragmatic argument, couched though it is in his usual tongue-in-cheek prose. And I am afraid his argument rests on math and logic - two notoriously difficult beasts to battle - and could well be correct. Short of someone coming up with a painless and ethical "final solution", how on earth can America fix something that should never have been allowed to happen in the first place. Migrations across national frontiers, complicated by copulation across racial frontiers, does create some BIG problems that defy solution. Yes, I do believe this immigration thing needs a tight cap ASAP, but I don't see any easy fix to the brain-dead policies of the past several decades. Posted in a spirit of peace, and with all humility rightly due to a problem of such huge proportions.

    Yes, Fred is right about much. We won’t be deporting millions of illegals, and they will eventually become citizens. Even if the don’t, there children (and their children and their child, etc.) will.

    However, I’m sick of Fred trashing on any white who would like to see their people continue. Fred seems perfectly fine with Jews and Japanese and Koreans and Chinese maintaining racial “purity.” It’s only with us whites that he implies such desires are some form of weakness.

    Perhaps even entertaining such arguments prove him right. (I mean, the Japanese wouldn’t take a Japanese Fred’s ranting seriously because they’d never let it happen in the first place.)

    Fred’s berating of alt-righters is personal. I’m no fan of commentators attacking Fred’s wife and adopted children; however, Fred does not reciprocate. He attacks alt-righters in an extremely personal way, which suggests a very personal animosity rather than so much an ideological.

    Given how Fred writes about other topics (hint: he seems quite alt-rightish about everything but Mexico and Mexicans), his views on this topics seem quite curious.

    Fred can, of course, defend himself, but it’s obvious to anyone who reads Fred’s writings that his logic gets short-circuited when he writes about his adopted homeland and people, which is understandable. (I think my kids are pretty awesome.) However, readers should be aware of this blindspot.

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  19. Bayan says:

    Branko Milanović, who is at the World Bank in his book ‘Global Inequality’ addresses the question of immigration.

    The problem he says is exacerbated by the dichotomy of full citizen vs illegal immigrant. He suggests something in-between that can reduce the tension. Have legal immigrants free to work but without citizenship rights, and with full rights of movement back and forth to their countries of origin. The idea is that they can overtime introduce economic and political reform and development to their countries of origin, and may eventually decide to move back to their countries for good.

    If we follow his advice all the illegals in the US will become legal with the right to work, but no citizenship rights. It is an intermediate solution. But, would the Right or the Left accept such a solution?

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    Isn't that just a guest worker program? They don't work in western societies because of compassion.

    In places like Hong Kong, guest workers occasionally make pleas for equality or even citizenship, but is shut down by Han nationalist sentiment. Very few locals sympathize with them. Western society however, would likely cave and start advocating for them, using trite excuses like "we're all humans". Once that happens, they'd be back to square one with the immigration/pluralism problem.
    , @MarkinLA
    It is a good idea if you want to make sure low income people never get a raise.
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  20. bartok says:

    Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

    There’s no evidence for this conclusion. The Atlantic magazine (not an outlier) 100 years ago spewed hatred toward the Irish with “Brace yourself, Bridget!” cartoons and the like. Domestic tranquility ensued.

    Ethnics have a love/hate relationship with Whites. Contrary to Fred’s statements, Whites don’t care about Ethnics, we just move to ‘better school districts’ and forget them. The Ethnics that love us will chase us and assimilate and intermarry. The Ethnics that hate us will sit in their filth.

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    "The Ethnics that hate us will sit in their filth."-- Maybe, maybe not.

    Do you think white flight is due to "the ethnics that hate us" just staying where they are and sitting in their filth?
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  21. If not for PC and anti-white dogma, it’s possible that many Mexicans and others from Latin-American nations would have assimilated by now.

    But PC happened, and it told ‘brown’ people to hate gringo(even as they wanted to move to gringoland). Also, even white Latinos prefer to go around as ‘people of color’ than as white.

    These people had a chance to assimilate into America for a long time, but they willfully chose not to, and such separatism was even encouraged by PC and multi-culturalism.
    Also, even those who have effectively assimilated into American society and culture still insist on a separate mentality. We see the same thing among blacks who live in white communities. And we see the same thing among Jews. They get along just fine with whites, but they still prefer to see themselves as apart from whites. Part of the reason is the want of authenticity. Even though they want to fit into white America, they don’t want to ‘sell out’ or feel that they’ve sold out. Look at Obama who was fully accepted into white America. But he still played the black race card.

    We see the same among many Mexicans and Latin-Americans. There is no barrier between them and white America, and some of them fit in just fine. But they still maintain a mental barrio to maintain a sense of authenticity, i.e they haven’t ‘sold out’.
    One reason why these people want to enter white society but don’t want to openly assimilate into whiteness is due partly to ‘guilt’ but also ‘pride’. If a black, brown, or Jew decided to declare himself as a happy member of the white community, there might be pangs of guilt that he turned his back on his own people to enjoy their own portion of ‘white privilege’. So, even when they do gain so much from entering white society, they make the correct noises about how they are still so proud to be non-white. There is also the matter of pride since PC morally favors non-whites over whites who are associated with ‘white privilege’ and burden of ‘racism’. So, even as non-whites want to enter white world and gain access to ‘white privilege’, they don’t want the label of whiteness. All these immigrants suffer from a certain complex. They willfully left their own people, culture, and nation to live in white-run America. They prefer whites to their own kind. But they feel ashamed to admit this, so they make a big PC stink about how they are in the US because spreading diversity is so good blah blah.

    It’s true that people like Coulter tend to exaggerate problems in Mexico. There is no one single Mexico, just like there is no single US. Surely, conditions in Detroit are very different than in Boise Idaho. Conditions in Salt Lake City are totally different than in Detroit.
    Likewise, Mexico has nice, affluent, and/or peaceful parts, and it has parts run by sicko drug gangs who bribe officials and carry out all sorts of heinous murders. But the fact is Mexico could be much more, but Mexicans have been underachievers because they’ve been a bunch of Gomezers. A Gomzer isn’t necessarily a bad egg or a rotten egg, but he isn’t probably boiled and the yolk is runny.

    Also, just look at California. Sure, most Mexicans in California are not as bad as blacks. If all Mex in Ca were replaced by blax, it’d be something close to South Africa. But Ca is no longer what it used to be because too many Mexicans means too many Gomezers who know how to follow but don’t know how to lead. But then, if whites in Ca hadn’t become so flaky, they might have been able to stop this long ago. But they were too lax and soaking up the sun and acting like valley girls and Jeff Spicolis and getting high and eating tofu and seaweed and pizza with broccoli and got lazy. The surf and Hollywood culture of Ca was enticing and fun, but it was shallow and amnesiac, and this set the template for the rest of the country.

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  22. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's a lot of straw men for one column, Fred. However, this terribly insecure (that is your implication, correct) alt-righter happens to agree with your statement and, presumably, your position on the subject:

    Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”
     
    Now, on to the ususal Fred silliness when he writes about Mexico, the U.S. and the alt-right. It gets tedious to continually refute what Fred writes, but as we know from experience, it doesn't pay to let such things slide.

    First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It's beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don't under the statistical term "average." Please stop. It's embarassing, and you are so much better than that.

    Please try to remember that some of your readers have been to Spain and lived near barrios. We know what each group looks like. Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it's raining.

    The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation.

     

    Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing. However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people's children.

    I only want for my people what the Jews or the Japanese or the Koreans want for their people. Why do you attacks whites but not those peoples?

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years.

     

    I am quite certain that this is true. However, you seem to extrapolate your personal experience to the entire country. Indeed, one need only to click over to Sailer today to get a taste of what Mexico is like for those not fortunate enough to live in Fred's neighborhood.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/impunity/

    Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,
     
    Agreed this is silly, but denying these people jobs and government benefits likely would result in many going home on their own.

    The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted
     
    .

    True dat.

    Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

     

    There's also the little matter of average IQ. Mestizo IQ (no, Fred, not the South Americans with 90% European ancestry that you love to showcase, but your average native mix) is likely in the ball park of the low 90s. Better than blacks but significantly lower than whites. Perhaps we'll find that better nutrition and environment will push that number to the mid to upper 90s, but the academic achievements of second and third generation Latinos in the U.S. indicate that this is not the case.

    That IQ gap will be a difficult impediment to full assimilation. Latinos will notice that they are thin on the ground in higher professions.

    But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

     

    True, but not getting control of the border will certainly lead to friction. Also, not acknowledging inherent differences and pointing and sputtersing like a SJW anytime someone does won't improve relations either.

    Very good refutation–can’t really improve on it. Fred really should avoid writing on the subject of Mexico and Mexicans–his lack of emotional distance warps his judgment. One most other subjects, he’s quite good. One factor that I think Fred overlooks is irrendist tendencies of Mexicans/Hispanics. If and when secession comes, it’ll most likely be in the American Southwest/West, led by a charismatic Hispanic who’ll pledge to cleanse the Republica del Norte of Negroes and Chinamen and to retain only enough whites to keep the standard of living from plunging.

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    I agree.
    , @Corvinus
    "Fred really should avoid writing on the subject of Mexico and Mexicans–his lack of emotional distance warps his judgment."

    Just as much as your fixation on "good whites" and "bad whites" melts your own mind.

    "If and when secession comes, it’ll most likely be in the American Southwest/West, led by a charismatic Hispanic who’ll pledge to cleanse the Republica del Norte of Negroes and Chinamen and to retain only enough whites to keep the standard of living from plunging."

    Secession and partition are pipe dreams. I think you be ingesting too much 'Zona peyote.
    , @Joe Wong
    Perhaps you are still living in a world with a mindset belonging to the past and stalled in old days of colonialism. At the trajectory of current national strength growth, any government in China would stand by and let our bros and sis overseas to be cleansed it will fall like a rock and despised as trash. Bombing that state back into stone age as the humanitarian intervention will be the rally call to stop the crime against humanity against our bros and sis.
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  23. The view of the Alt Right is more nuanced on this matter.

    Alt Right has no problem with White Hispanics. They see them as fellow Europeans. The real problem is that White Hispanics want to have the cake and eat it too. In Latin American nations, they enjoy white privilege(the real kind) and hog media and elite institutions. And in the US, they can easily mingle with whites. BUT, they insist on ‘Hispanic’ label and reject whiteness as identity since whiteness connotes ‘racism’ and ‘supremacism’. White Hispanics are like Jews in this regard. Their whiteness makes it easier for them to mingle in white society, and they do so to get all the goodies, BUT they also make a big stink about how they are not ‘white’ but ‘Hispanic’ or ‘people of color’ because 5% of their blood is Aztec or some such.

    There are utopian Alt Rightists who hope for separate racial nation-states in the US, but most are more realistic. They recognize that the US will continue as a diverse nation. But they believe that whites must develop their own identity and group interest within this diversity.
    Even if US cannot be white like it used to be again, white people can survive as a race and culture if they have a racial consciousness. After all, this is what allowed Jews to survive for 1000s of yrs in Europe and Middle East. They had to live among Arabs or Europeans, but they maintained a certain autonomy by emphasizing their own identity, history, and culture.

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    The real problem is that White Hispanics want to have the cake and eat it too.
     
    Why is that a problemo? If a white hispanic can take advantage of the current PC-sodden system, are they not striking a blow for the white ethnic group - using PC's own weapons against them? Sounds like a win-win to me. Anyway, certainly can't blame them for trying.
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  25. Now Really! Such an unhealthy obsession with this loosely-defined concept called “race”.

    Now am I supposed to understand that Latinos are racially different than the “white Americans”? Aren’t many Latinos descended from Spanish settlers?

    Who are these “white Americans”? How do they stand out from many other European immigrants? A century ago Highland Scots were considered “racially inferior” being of the “Celtic race”. Last time I looked Highland Games are quite the rage and lots of people claim lineage, even among those who consider themselves “white Americans”. Those Irish immigrants were quite the problem in the late 1800′s and into the early 1900′s, being “racially inferior” and Catholic to boot.

    This fixation on “race” likely connects to the fear of those who are culturally, not genetically, different and reflects poorly on those who fall back on such vague ideas that don’t stand up to scrutiny (what are the genetic differences that define “race” so clearly that it is easy to use to categorise individuals as well as whole groups?) It seems to me that it is fear of cultural differences that are reflected in attitudes towards those “inferior blacks” and “redskins” and “slant-eyed orientals. Serbs, Poles, Czechs, Russians, and assorted others say they are Slavic but now we are told to hate those pesky Russians while siding with the heroic Poles.

    I feel that “Animal Farm” tells us all we need to know about this issue.

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Since you seem so baffled by the concept of race and why people might be interested in it, I'll point you to the link below. It may explain some things. Also, you could just go and ask the Jews, Japanese, Koreans, La Raza, etc. They would be able to fill you in on why they care. Another more direct way is to ask some kids from Mexican gangs, MS-13 or the Crips why race matters.

    Simply put, a race or ethnicity is an extended family with all of the quirks and similarities that families exhibit, and, unless you're a sociopath, you tend to care more about your family than other families. You also look out for family more than you look-out for non-family members. Finally, you want your family to continue into the future.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-race-faq.html
    , @MarkinLA
    Now Really! Such an unhealthy obsession with this loosely-defined concept called “race”.

    Maybe you should tell this to the government. Oh wait, people like you who crow about "not seeing race" are just fine with affirmative action and all the government race based programs.
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  26. Jason Liu says:
    @Bayan
    Branko Milanović, who is at the World Bank in his book 'Global Inequality' addresses the question of immigration.

    The problem he says is exacerbated by the dichotomy of full citizen vs illegal immigrant. He suggests something in-between that can reduce the tension. Have legal immigrants free to work but without citizenship rights, and with full rights of movement back and forth to their countries of origin. The idea is that they can overtime introduce economic and political reform and development to their countries of origin, and may eventually decide to move back to their countries for good.

    If we follow his advice all the illegals in the US will become legal with the right to work, but no citizenship rights. It is an intermediate solution. But, would the Right or the Left accept such a solution?

    Isn’t that just a guest worker program? They don’t work in western societies because of compassion.

    In places like Hong Kong, guest workers occasionally make pleas for equality or even citizenship, but is shut down by Han nationalist sentiment. Very few locals sympathize with them. Western society however, would likely cave and start advocating for them, using trite excuses like “we’re all humans”. Once that happens, they’d be back to square one with the immigration/pluralism problem.

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  27. We need a moratorium on all immigration. By we I mean the people of the United States. And yes. Assimilate those here now. Unfortunately “we” have no say in the matter.

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  28. @Diversity Heretic
    Very good refutation--can't really improve on it. Fred really should avoid writing on the subject of Mexico and Mexicans--his lack of emotional distance warps his judgment. One most other subjects, he's quite good. One factor that I think Fred overlooks is irrendist tendencies of Mexicans/Hispanics. If and when secession comes, it'll most likely be in the American Southwest/West, led by a charismatic Hispanic who'll pledge to cleanse the Republica del Norte of Negroes and Chinamen and to retain only enough whites to keep the standard of living from plunging.

    I agree.

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  29. @WorkingClass
    We need a moratorium on all immigration. By we I mean the people of the United States. And yes. Assimilate those here now. Unfortunately "we" have no say in the matter.

    I agree with

    We need a moratorium on all immigration. [...]
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  30. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's a lot of straw men for one column, Fred. However, this terribly insecure (that is your implication, correct) alt-righter happens to agree with your statement and, presumably, your position on the subject:

    Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”
     
    Now, on to the ususal Fred silliness when he writes about Mexico, the U.S. and the alt-right. It gets tedious to continually refute what Fred writes, but as we know from experience, it doesn't pay to let such things slide.

    First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It's beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don't under the statistical term "average." Please stop. It's embarassing, and you are so much better than that.

    Please try to remember that some of your readers have been to Spain and lived near barrios. We know what each group looks like. Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it's raining.

    The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation.

     

    Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing. However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people's children.

    I only want for my people what the Jews or the Japanese or the Koreans want for their people. Why do you attacks whites but not those peoples?

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years.

     

    I am quite certain that this is true. However, you seem to extrapolate your personal experience to the entire country. Indeed, one need only to click over to Sailer today to get a taste of what Mexico is like for those not fortunate enough to live in Fred's neighborhood.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/impunity/

    Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,
     
    Agreed this is silly, but denying these people jobs and government benefits likely would result in many going home on their own.

    The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted
     
    .

    True dat.

    Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

     

    There's also the little matter of average IQ. Mestizo IQ (no, Fred, not the South Americans with 90% European ancestry that you love to showcase, but your average native mix) is likely in the ball park of the low 90s. Better than blacks but significantly lower than whites. Perhaps we'll find that better nutrition and environment will push that number to the mid to upper 90s, but the academic achievements of second and third generation Latinos in the U.S. indicate that this is not the case.

    That IQ gap will be a difficult impediment to full assimilation. Latinos will notice that they are thin on the ground in higher professions.

    But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

     

    True, but not getting control of the border will certainly lead to friction. Also, not acknowledging inherent differences and pointing and sputtersing like a SJW anytime someone does won't improve relations either.

    “First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It’s beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don’t under the statistical term “average.””

    So what is this “statistical average” regarding the beauty of the average Mestizo. What metrics are involved here?

    “Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing.”

    Come again, who are “your people”?

    “However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people’s children.”

    Except you do hate people who are other than your own.

    “There’s also the little matter of average IQ.”

    Which in the end is overrated. Which in the end is due to biological and environmental factors.

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    For a supposedly smart people you just cant seem to learn from your mistakes. You had a perfect opportunity to start over again differently here in the US after the "holocaust" but you simply doubled down. So here you are desperately trying to head off the inevitable. What are the chances we will be so sloppy about the final solution this time? The process that will lead to the inevitable will reveal the whole last 150 years the way it ought to have been understood while it was happening. What ar the chance when people really see who did what that even Israel will be spared? Enjoy your little meme wars but you and I both know the yid is up.
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  31. Corvinus says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    Very good refutation--can't really improve on it. Fred really should avoid writing on the subject of Mexico and Mexicans--his lack of emotional distance warps his judgment. One most other subjects, he's quite good. One factor that I think Fred overlooks is irrendist tendencies of Mexicans/Hispanics. If and when secession comes, it'll most likely be in the American Southwest/West, led by a charismatic Hispanic who'll pledge to cleanse the Republica del Norte of Negroes and Chinamen and to retain only enough whites to keep the standard of living from plunging.

    “Fred really should avoid writing on the subject of Mexico and Mexicans–his lack of emotional distance warps his judgment.”

    Just as much as your fixation on “good whites” and “bad whites” melts your own mind.

    “If and when secession comes, it’ll most likely be in the American Southwest/West, led by a charismatic Hispanic who’ll pledge to cleanse the Republica del Norte of Negroes and Chinamen and to retain only enough whites to keep the standard of living from plunging.”

    Secession and partition are pipe dreams. I think you be ingesting too much ‘Zona peyote.

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  32. @Simplyamazed
    Now Really! Such an unhealthy obsession with this loosely-defined concept called "race".

    Now am I supposed to understand that Latinos are racially different than the "white Americans"? Aren't many Latinos descended from Spanish settlers?

    Who are these "white Americans"? How do they stand out from many other European immigrants? A century ago Highland Scots were considered "racially inferior" being of the "Celtic race". Last time I looked Highland Games are quite the rage and lots of people claim lineage, even among those who consider themselves "white Americans". Those Irish immigrants were quite the problem in the late 1800's and into the early 1900's, being "racially inferior" and Catholic to boot.

    This fixation on "race" likely connects to the fear of those who are culturally, not genetically, different and reflects poorly on those who fall back on such vague ideas that don't stand up to scrutiny (what are the genetic differences that define "race" so clearly that it is easy to use to categorise individuals as well as whole groups?) It seems to me that it is fear of cultural differences that are reflected in attitudes towards those "inferior blacks" and "redskins" and "slant-eyed orientals. Serbs, Poles, Czechs, Russians, and assorted others say they are Slavic but now we are told to hate those pesky Russians while siding with the heroic Poles.

    I feel that "Animal Farm" tells us all we need to know about this issue.

    Since you seem so baffled by the concept of race and why people might be interested in it, I’ll point you to the link below. It may explain some things. Also, you could just go and ask the Jews, Japanese, Koreans, La Raza, etc. They would be able to fill you in on why they care. Another more direct way is to ask some kids from Mexican gangs, MS-13 or the Crips why race matters.

    Simply put, a race or ethnicity is an extended family with all of the quirks and similarities that families exhibit, and, unless you’re a sociopath, you tend to care more about your family than other families. You also look out for family more than you look-out for non-family members. Finally, you want your family to continue into the future.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-race-faq.html

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    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    "Simply put, a race or ethnicity is an extended family with all of the quirks and similarities that families exhibit, and, unless you’re a sociopath, you tend to care more about your family than other families."

    No. Race is associated with biology; ethnicity is associated with culture. My "race" or my "ethnicity" is not my "family", they are people who are part of the race I am (white) or the heritage of my ancestors (Polish, German, Dutch).
    , @Simplyamazed
    I have read what is written in the link you provided as well as what you said about race being family and I am now understand why people might use race a lot, since the discussion makes it clear that "race". like "family" means whatever the speaker wants it to mean from time to time. Anyone who thinks family can mean the human "race", i.e. all humans alive on the face of the earth, while arguing that family loyalty, such as loving your mother, makes people love their "family", ie. identifiable relatives such as mother, father, aunt and uncle, and thus determines what "race" he or she belongs to, really knows how to obfuscate.

    In short, your explanation and reference convince me that the term "race" as used in this article is devoid of meaning and content.
    , @Santoculto
    "Unless you are a sociopath you care more about other people than their own"

    So "self hating Jews" (if they really exist) are sociopaths and Zionists are extremely altruists???
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  33. Most people are scaredy cats, sheeple, or followers. This is true of any society.

    It’s like how most townsfolk in Westerns prefer to keep their heads down and just go along.
    It takes a special guy to act like John Wayne or even James Stewart in LIBERTY VALANCE.

    Still, the American West is about a story of remarkable men who had the courage of, say, Wyatt Earp and Wild Bill Hickok. Such men were rare but still maybe 1 out of 50 in America.

    In contrast, such men seem to be about 1 out of 500 in Mexico. And that makes all the difference.

    Against gangsters, you need the cowboys and lawmen.

    In the US, when there were bad guys, the good guys came forth to lead the community to push back. So, outlaws and gangsters were kept in check if not eradicated. It’s like germs are all around, and you gotta do about infections. That way, it wont’ fester and make you sicker.
    Since Americans were more proactive, they took measures to address obvious maladies.
    This happened in the West like in those John Wayne movies. But it also happened at the federal level. Though there was always plenty of corruption in government, there were nevertheless enough power at the federal level to prevent the US from being taken over totally by clans, mobs, radicals, gangsters, etc.

    So, at the local level, there were sheriff, and at the federal level, there were agencies.

    In contrast, in places like Mexico, the people were used to being passive. Meso-Americans tend to be Gomezian. They are like fuzzy bears than proud wolves. Also, they never got any encouragement from the elites who were white and just wanted the Mesos to remain poor and ignorant as helots. As whites in Mexico wanted to keep the power, it was better to keep the people passive, and this was usually easy since Mesos tended to be sheeple used to saying ‘si, senor’. Unlike the US where the elites and people were both white, the elites and masses were different in Mexico. (It’s like how Shah felt closer to Western elites than to his own people. As white elites embrace globalism and diversity in the US, they seem to care less and less for white masses who are turning gringomezian themselves without any guidance or leadership. Today, elites like the Clintons feel closer to Zionist globalists who feel disdain for white populist masses. In a way, when national elites say they care about all about humanity than just their national kin, it effectively means they are abandoning all responsibilities and obligations. After all, while it is doable for the national elites to do something about their own people, it is IMPOSSIBLE to take care of the entire world. So, caring about humanity just turns into empty rhetoric. It sounds good but unburdens the elites from any higher duty. They can just pretend to be caring for the world while doing nothing for their own people and nothing for the world as well since it is impossible for even a rich powerful nation like the US to take care of the world. This is why blacks and progs suck so bad. They are always talking about how much they care about everyone, all of humanity, all the world.. but it just amounts to rhetorical distraction from REAL problems all around them that they ignore.)

    Because minor germic infections were not treated before they got out of hand, Mexico and other Latin American nations had to get really really sick before things got so bad that the masses had no choice but to rise up. But since most Mexicans were Gomezers afraid to step forward and grab the reins, they needed a great Savior, the all powerful hero like Zapata, to
    play Moses and show them the way.

    Among Americans, a local hero was enough, someone like Wyatt Earp, and many towns had such sheriffs who kept things in order. So, each locality fixed its own problems.
    But in Mexico, the problem was beyond local since each locality had too many Gomezers who kept their heads down. The problem was national since most Gomezers were sheep.
    When things get so bad all over, it’s not enough to have a good sheriff like Earp. You need a deliverer, and this is why Latin American history went from tyrants to new tyrants. To get rid of the old tyrant in a world where things have gotten so bad, the people demand a new big boss, the liberator as caudillo. But since the people invested him with so much power as the Answer, he soon turned into another big shot.
    If someone allows himself to become too sick and then asks a doctor to take total control over his life, the doctor will not only see him as patient but his property, like with Brian Wilson who became slave of his therapist.

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  35. unit472 says:

    This is the best the apologist for an invasion of sawed off black haired low IQ vagrants can come up with? What would Reed’s Mexican associates have to say if millions of tall blonde Europeans just invited themselves into Mexico because they felt entitled to take over? If, after deporting them, they just kept coming back and ignored the laws of the land?

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  36. Once again, Fred elides all talk of Mexican criminality and drug trafficking from his column. He really is hopeless. Calling all of us scientific racists isn’t helping his cause any either.

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    Second and third generation Mexican immigrants have increasingly worse outcomes in permissive American culture, they assimilate negatively because they don’t have genetic hard wiring for self control and the US lacks a strict culture as in Mexico, which leaves nothing to do the heavy lifting. Fred thinks the traditional upbringing of Mexicans can be dispensed with when they are born in the US because the genetics are the same as old Americans. No Fred. the girls of the second and after immigrant generations in America are going to be sluts. Fat ones.

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  38. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Since you seem so baffled by the concept of race and why people might be interested in it, I'll point you to the link below. It may explain some things. Also, you could just go and ask the Jews, Japanese, Koreans, La Raza, etc. They would be able to fill you in on why they care. Another more direct way is to ask some kids from Mexican gangs, MS-13 or the Crips why race matters.

    Simply put, a race or ethnicity is an extended family with all of the quirks and similarities that families exhibit, and, unless you're a sociopath, you tend to care more about your family than other families. You also look out for family more than you look-out for non-family members. Finally, you want your family to continue into the future.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-race-faq.html

    “Since you seem so baffled by the concept of race and why people might be interested in it, I’ll point you to the link below. It may explain some things. Also, you could just go and ask the Jews, Japanese, Koreans, La Raza, etc. They would be able to fill you in on why they care. Another more direct way is to ask some kids from Mexican gangs, MS-13 or the Crips why race matters.”

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    “Simply put, a race or ethnicity is an extended family with all of the quirks and similarities that families exhibit, and, unless you’re a sociopath, you tend to care more about your family than other families.”

    No. Race is associated with biology; ethnicity is associated with culture. My “race” or my “ethnicity” is not my “family”, they are people who are part of the race I am (white) or the heritage of my ancestors (Polish, German, Dutch).

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    "Pro-race is code for anti-humanity."

    Non-sequitur, and not relevant to anything. Akin to saying something "When the love of power is less than the power of love, there will be peace."---Means nothing to the actual issue under discussion.

    Also, not all humanity shares the same DNA. (e.g. some races intermixed with Neanderthals, which helped to change some of the DNA structure in some races as opposed to those whose ancestors never mixed with Neanderthals).


    "Race is associated with biology; ethnicity is associated with culture."

    As DNA is part of biology, which, if kept constant and not mixing with other races over eons, tends to be different from than other races, cultures, etc.

    Each nation has determined that it has the right of the governed to set immigration policy for their individual respective nations. If a nation wants to keep its own nation's population stable for whatever the reason, including preserving its nation's individual DNA, which has been kept on the whole, separate from other nations, then that is their right. They don't need permission from other peoples outside their nation's borders to implement their nations policy.

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  39. Bashing Hispanics, like bashing Muslims, is a release-valve for the Cucky Right.

    The real challenges to the White Race are Jews, blacks, and White Self-Righteous Supremacists addicted to meth-highs of feeling (a**)holier-than-thou with their pious prog-selytizing. Also, when it comes to degeneration and degradation of culture and values, homos are very destructive.

    But Jews, Negroes, and Homos are shielded by the taboos around ‘antisemitism’, ‘racism’, and ‘homophobia’, so most on the Right dare not say anything about them. Even Trump frames his anti-Muslim ‘ban’ on protecting holy homos from Muslim terrorism. Also, we are to believe that Americans need to be protected from Mexican crime when, in fact, black crime is much worse. To be sure, there is a fair amount of illegal alien crime, but that’s mostly regional, and nevertheless, nothing compared to black thuggery.
    And when it comes to immigration policy, Jews had a huge role in it, of course with the aid of white Self-Righteous Supremacists in places like Minnesota and Maine who decided to ship in tons of Somalis so they can show off their ‘diversity’ too. (They prefer Africans over black Americans on the notion that Africans haven’t yet been corrupted by American history. Progs see black Africans as blank-slate Negroes who can be led along the righteous progo-path. LOL) But Conservatism Inc. dare not mention the Jews. And even ‘Alt Lite’ won’t really go there. Alt Right has the courage to mention Jewish Power, but there are too many elements who troll with dumb 14/88 symbolism which makes a mockery of seriousness. As such, they undermine their own credibility and integrity.

    Conservatives are also mostly mum about the white cucky self-righteous supremacists since many of them are Christian and supposedly do it out of the ‘goodness’ of the heart. Look at David French and his black ‘son’. And going by Ross Douthat’s idea that black Africans will make the best Christians in future Europe, it appears the main theme on the Right is still “We are no longer ‘racist’ cuz we trust blacks to bring about the renaissance in Christianity.” Based on the Current Narrative, whites are too stained with sin to be proud Christians. Whites committed too many historical crimes and became too rich and decadent. So, white Christians can only pray for forgiveness and feel sorry and seek atonement. They just be judged by God, not preach the word of God. In contrast, blacks and Africans supposedly possess nobility because they done suffer for so long. They be the holy wretched of the earth. Unlike whites, they have moral authority and gravitas. (Never mind black Africans have been a bunch of savages chucking spears at hippos and each other and waging wars and enslaving countless others. It goes to show that history is still very Eurocentric when it comes to ‘guilt’.) So, if white Christians lack the pride and prestige necessary to uphold the faith with authority, blacks have the requisite qualities for spiritual rejuvenation. We see this play out in America. If a white preacher denounces immorality, everyone laughs at him or mocks him as a phony or hypocrite. But when a Negro preacher done say the same thing, even white libby-dibs will listen up at least halfway. The Negro is seen as nobler and wiser for his experience of suffering. Also, the Negro has the louder voice that go boom-ish. Since white Christian Conservatives feel guilt than pride, they hope that Negroes taking charge of Christianity(and all of Europe) will lead to Afro-Christo-European Renaissance. Yeah, dream on. Ross Douthat, aka Chunkhead, is a real moron.

    Anyway, all systems need a safety-valve. People are frustrated and angered by so many problems. So, they need some kind of release for their anger. Usually, the target of such ire is those with the Power or those causing the most problems. Naturally, Jews, blacks, and homos should be the main targets of white anger. Why? Jews got the most power and abuse it for wars and to push immigration-invasion. Blacks commit the most crime. And homos do most to gunk up culture with filth and depravity. Of course, Jews don’t want be the target. Jews want to protect their power and avoid criticism. And Jews need alliance with blacks cuz blacks are profitable in vice industries and also cuz black narrative is useful for ‘white guilt’ to paralyze whites. Also, Jews see homos as main proxy as Queertianity is the new global religion.

    So, what should be done about all the anger and rage that build up among Americans? Jews direct black ire against white gentiles even though much of tougher policing and incarceration were pushed by Democratic Party controlled by Jews in order to revive cities. Jews direct white Democratic ire against OTHER whites, the ‘deplorables’. So, even though many white Democrats are really being hurt by globalism, black crime, and excessive diversity, they’ve been led to believe it’s all the white ‘racist’ conservative fault. So, whenever white Democratic libby-dibs see something wrong in society, their kneejerk reaction is to blame the KKK or ‘nazis’. (What a bunch of dummies.)
    And brown frustration is re-directed at gringo. Indeed, even as white Americans are admonished show compassion toward immigrants and ‘dreamers’, browns are encouraged to hate gringo and violently attack Trump supporters. And white women are made to hate white men with ever newer mutations of demented feminism. (White whores are made to worry about ‘rape culture’ by white males when blacks are main rapists.) And white conservative anger is directed mostly at Muslims, Russians(make whitey hate whitey), China, and illegals. The globalist elites are protective of immigrants, BUT they would still rather have white conservatives hate immigrant-invaders than the very elites who’ve rigged the system for more invasion. If white conservatives denounce Mexicans and if Mexicans denounce gringo, the elites can play ‘yojimbo’ and play off both sides.

    Some people will argue that WE ARE ALL AMERICANS, and therefore politicians shouldn’t talk of us-versus-them, but it’s too late now. By promoting identity politics, the globalists have actually encouraged division and favoritism in American politics. After all, Hillary Clinton blatantly appealed to black votes, homo votes, and Jewish votes. Even when cops were killed in Dallas, she was playing up black demagoguery. And in calling for open borders, she was favoring non-whites against whites as most immigrants are non-white and encouraged to be anti-white once they come to America.

    This is why Fred Fred Cabbage Head gets it wrong. He fails to recognize that GOP’s attempt to win over Hispanics has failed time and time again. Even if Jeb Bush were president, the overwhelming number of Hispanics would go with Democrats. And McCain was one of the most cucky pro-Mexican politicians, but vast majority of Mexers still went with Obama.
    Hispanics favor Democrats for two reasons. Even if GOP has been mostly pro-open-borders, the Democrats are even more so. Whatever GOP offers, the Dems will offer more. If GOP were to go along with amnesty, Dems will say ‘give illegals the vote’.
    Another reason Mexers prefer Democrats is because GOP stands for assimilation and generic-Americanism. In contrast, Democrats encourage non-white identity and pride. So, non-whites prefer to maintain pride of identity as Democrats than become generic ‘white bread’ Americans like David French and chunkhead Douthat of the GOP side.

    Now, if white people had great prestige and pride in America(as in the past), Mexers might consider it a honor to become like an ‘American’. But over the yrs, PC had devalued the worth of whiteness even to the point where even some white ethnic groups don’t want to count as ‘white’.
    Also, because whiteness has been tagged with ‘racism’ and etc, the only acceptable whiteness is the most bland, wussy, genetic, and cucky kind. And this makes whiteness despised even more. It’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t when it comes to whiteness.

    If a white guy expresses pride, honor, and courage in being white, he is denounced by media as ‘racist’, ‘nazi’, ‘atavistic’, and ‘supremacist’. But if a white guy acts like Rich Lowry and smiles cucky-wucky and talks like Pee Wee Herman with every last drop of testosterone sucked out, he is mocked as ‘wussy white boy’ or dweeby-dork. A white guy is a ‘racist’ if proud and a ‘loser’ if nice.

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    Well said. Of course, it begs the question: What next?
    , @attilathehen
    Good points. Douthat, French are incredible degenerates and cowards. But there are other negrophiliacs. Ann Coulter gave an interview a couple of months ago about how blacks are special and that we owe them because of slavery. Glen Beck has some insane historian David Barton give talks about how whites and blacks built the USA together. Limbaugh is going nuts because the black NFL is disappearing because whites no longer attend.

    Along with getting rid of the illegals, segregating blacks and Jews is high on the list of things to do.
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  40. Flat Cat says:

    Speaking of small towns in Tennessee…mine has a chicken factory. You know, where they manufacture chickens? Smells great. Half of northern Mexico works there. White folks manage it. Lot of immigrants, both legal and illegal have settled the area.

    And there are the usual problems. Many drive, often badly, and almost always without licenses or insurance in the case of the illegals. Some commit crimes. This does not differentiate them from their white and black neighbors.

    I honestly don’t care. The Mexicans (catchall term for anyone from south of Texas) seem to be mostly employed, pregnant, or raising kids. They keep to themselves and are generally polite. Conflict outside of the political theatre that afflicts us every two to four years is pretty rare, probably because they come from a nominally Christian culture, much like my fellow native East Tennesseans.

    I’d be much more concerned if there were, say, hundreds of thousands of fighting age males from Africa or the Middle East being ported in and given free reign outside the law. It is wise to count your blessings, even if they don’t seem like blessings at the time.

    One thing, Fred, and I know this cannot encompass all Latinas, but I see very, very few attractive Mexican women up here. Maybe it’s be cause of the region most of the come from is less mixed than others, but most are short, round, and a bit rugged looking.

    A wave of beautiful young women of the sort pictured at the top of your article would be a welcome event indeed.

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    I honestly don’t care.

    Wait till they get into politics like they are in California.
    , @AP

    One thing, Fred, and I know this cannot encompass all Latinas, but I see very, very few attractive Mexican women up here. Maybe it’s be cause of the region most of the come from is less mixed than others, but most are short, round, and a bit rugged looking.
     
    This is a common observation.

    Mexicans immigrants are mostly poor and uneducated, working class types. Are whites with the same socioeconomic status much thinner or more attractive? I suspect that if one controls for income, there won't be much of a difference. I doubt the people described are rounder or more rugged-looking than their white neighbors of similar education level.

    , @Anonymous01
    "...short, round and a bit rugged looking.."

    Could be of more Mayan heritage. Around here there tend to be whole villages that seem to move in when a large labor pool is need. A Mexican friend pointed this out to me: "The Mayans didn't disappear, they just moved over." A local large car wash had a crew of maybe 40 'cousins'. Very striking people. Very short, unique coppery tone to their skin, hardly a word of Spanish among them. Hard workers. They all disappeared about the same time too. Hmm...
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  41. Fred can be good, and he can be very annoying, as in this commentary. He clearly feels like he has to protect Mexico’s reputation because he lives there. I think this type of article is just Fred being a troll.

    You can really like a culture, like Mexico’s, and still not want to live in it yourself. And they are welcome to feel the same way about ours.

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  42. @Priss Factor
    Bashing Hispanics, like bashing Muslims, is a release-valve for the Cucky Right.

    The real challenges to the White Race are Jews, blacks, and White Self-Righteous Supremacists addicted to meth-highs of feeling (a**)holier-than-thou with their pious prog-selytizing. Also, when it comes to degeneration and degradation of culture and values, homos are very destructive.

    But Jews, Negroes, and Homos are shielded by the taboos around 'antisemitism', 'racism', and 'homophobia', so most on the Right dare not say anything about them. Even Trump frames his anti-Muslim 'ban' on protecting holy homos from Muslim terrorism. Also, we are to believe that Americans need to be protected from Mexican crime when, in fact, black crime is much worse. To be sure, there is a fair amount of illegal alien crime, but that's mostly regional, and nevertheless, nothing compared to black thuggery.
    And when it comes to immigration policy, Jews had a huge role in it, of course with the aid of white Self-Righteous Supremacists in places like Minnesota and Maine who decided to ship in tons of Somalis so they can show off their 'diversity' too. (They prefer Africans over black Americans on the notion that Africans haven't yet been corrupted by American history. Progs see black Africans as blank-slate Negroes who can be led along the righteous progo-path. LOL) But Conservatism Inc. dare not mention the Jews. And even 'Alt Lite' won't really go there. Alt Right has the courage to mention Jewish Power, but there are too many elements who troll with dumb 14/88 symbolism which makes a mockery of seriousness. As such, they undermine their own credibility and integrity.

    Conservatives are also mostly mum about the white cucky self-righteous supremacists since many of them are Christian and supposedly do it out of the 'goodness' of the heart. Look at David French and his black 'son'. And going by Ross Douthat's idea that black Africans will make the best Christians in future Europe, it appears the main theme on the Right is still "We are no longer 'racist' cuz we trust blacks to bring about the renaissance in Christianity." Based on the Current Narrative, whites are too stained with sin to be proud Christians. Whites committed too many historical crimes and became too rich and decadent. So, white Christians can only pray for forgiveness and feel sorry and seek atonement. They just be judged by God, not preach the word of God. In contrast, blacks and Africans supposedly possess nobility because they done suffer for so long. They be the holy wretched of the earth. Unlike whites, they have moral authority and gravitas. (Never mind black Africans have been a bunch of savages chucking spears at hippos and each other and waging wars and enslaving countless others. It goes to show that history is still very Eurocentric when it comes to 'guilt'.) So, if white Christians lack the pride and prestige necessary to uphold the faith with authority, blacks have the requisite qualities for spiritual rejuvenation. We see this play out in America. If a white preacher denounces immorality, everyone laughs at him or mocks him as a phony or hypocrite. But when a Negro preacher done say the same thing, even white libby-dibs will listen up at least halfway. The Negro is seen as nobler and wiser for his experience of suffering. Also, the Negro has the louder voice that go boom-ish. Since white Christian Conservatives feel guilt than pride, they hope that Negroes taking charge of Christianity(and all of Europe) will lead to Afro-Christo-European Renaissance. Yeah, dream on. Ross Douthat, aka Chunkhead, is a real moron.

    Anyway, all systems need a safety-valve. People are frustrated and angered by so many problems. So, they need some kind of release for their anger. Usually, the target of such ire is those with the Power or those causing the most problems. Naturally, Jews, blacks, and homos should be the main targets of white anger. Why? Jews got the most power and abuse it for wars and to push immigration-invasion. Blacks commit the most crime. And homos do most to gunk up culture with filth and depravity. Of course, Jews don't want be the target. Jews want to protect their power and avoid criticism. And Jews need alliance with blacks cuz blacks are profitable in vice industries and also cuz black narrative is useful for 'white guilt' to paralyze whites. Also, Jews see homos as main proxy as Queertianity is the new global religion.

    So, what should be done about all the anger and rage that build up among Americans? Jews direct black ire against white gentiles even though much of tougher policing and incarceration were pushed by Democratic Party controlled by Jews in order to revive cities. Jews direct white Democratic ire against OTHER whites, the 'deplorables'. So, even though many white Democrats are really being hurt by globalism, black crime, and excessive diversity, they've been led to believe it's all the white 'racist' conservative fault. So, whenever white Democratic libby-dibs see something wrong in society, their kneejerk reaction is to blame the KKK or 'nazis'. (What a bunch of dummies.)
    And brown frustration is re-directed at gringo. Indeed, even as white Americans are admonished show compassion toward immigrants and 'dreamers', browns are encouraged to hate gringo and violently attack Trump supporters. And white women are made to hate white men with ever newer mutations of demented feminism. (White whores are made to worry about 'rape culture' by white males when blacks are main rapists.) And white conservative anger is directed mostly at Muslims, Russians(make whitey hate whitey), China, and illegals. The globalist elites are protective of immigrants, BUT they would still rather have white conservatives hate immigrant-invaders than the very elites who've rigged the system for more invasion. If white conservatives denounce Mexicans and if Mexicans denounce gringo, the elites can play 'yojimbo' and play off both sides.

    Some people will argue that WE ARE ALL AMERICANS, and therefore politicians shouldn't talk of us-versus-them, but it's too late now. By promoting identity politics, the globalists have actually encouraged division and favoritism in American politics. After all, Hillary Clinton blatantly appealed to black votes, homo votes, and Jewish votes. Even when cops were killed in Dallas, she was playing up black demagoguery. And in calling for open borders, she was favoring non-whites against whites as most immigrants are non-white and encouraged to be anti-white once they come to America.

    This is why Fred Fred Cabbage Head gets it wrong. He fails to recognize that GOP's attempt to win over Hispanics has failed time and time again. Even if Jeb Bush were president, the overwhelming number of Hispanics would go with Democrats. And McCain was one of the most cucky pro-Mexican politicians, but vast majority of Mexers still went with Obama.
    Hispanics favor Democrats for two reasons. Even if GOP has been mostly pro-open-borders, the Democrats are even more so. Whatever GOP offers, the Dems will offer more. If GOP were to go along with amnesty, Dems will say 'give illegals the vote'.
    Another reason Mexers prefer Democrats is because GOP stands for assimilation and generic-Americanism. In contrast, Democrats encourage non-white identity and pride. So, non-whites prefer to maintain pride of identity as Democrats than become generic 'white bread' Americans like David French and chunkhead Douthat of the GOP side.

    Now, if white people had great prestige and pride in America(as in the past), Mexers might consider it a honor to become like an 'American'. But over the yrs, PC had devalued the worth of whiteness even to the point where even some white ethnic groups don't want to count as 'white'.
    Also, because whiteness has been tagged with 'racism' and etc, the only acceptable whiteness is the most bland, wussy, genetic, and cucky kind. And this makes whiteness despised even more. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't when it comes to whiteness.

    If a white guy expresses pride, honor, and courage in being white, he is denounced by media as 'racist', 'nazi', 'atavistic', and 'supremacist'. But if a white guy acts like Rich Lowry and smiles cucky-wucky and talks like Pee Wee Herman with every last drop of testosterone sucked out, he is mocked as 'wussy white boy' or dweeby-dork. A white guy is a 'racist' if proud and a 'loser' if nice.

    Well said. Of course, it begs the question: What next?

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    States' rights? Even to control who passes from another state into theirs?

    Peace.

    , @Anonymous
    Probably more conflict between the Police, and Fred's Mexican honey's whom white men love so much.

    They're strikingly beautiful, and they are everywhere.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sSm63JD-8PY
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  43. Talha says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Well said. Of course, it begs the question: What next?

    States’ rights? Even to control who passes from another state into theirs?

    Peace.

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  44. MarkinLA says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Can Fred Reed cite an example of a Latin American country which has achieved much of anything?

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter...or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.

    If these people are as talented as white people then why don't they achieve in their own countries?

    Deporting hispanics en masse is unlikely to happen under President Trump since he's a restorationist, mid-century American. And let us not forget that he's a baby boomer, much like Fred Trump, and apparently most baby boomers find it impossible to cuck.

    Central and Eastern European countries had no trouble deporting 13 million Germans in 1945. This was done in six months.

    You mean to tell me we can't do what Poland in 1945 did?

    Give be a break. As I usually state in these comments--why oh why Fred is it so hard for you to not advocate for another racial-cultural group simply because you're f@#$ing a member of one?

    I've enjoyed carnal relations with several of these oh-so-attractive latinas you're always talking about, but it doesn't change my politics.

    Argentina, Uruguay, and possibly Chile are more white than the US is and likely ever was. There isn’t much of an Amerindian presence. The last indigenous people in Tierra Del Fuego died out a long time ago. They had generous immigration policies for Europeans before WWII. These are nice countries and first world.

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    Argentina, Uruguay, and possibly Chile are more white than the US is and likely ever was. There isn’t much of an Amerindian presence. They had generous immigration policies for Europeans before WWII. These are nice countries and first world.
     
    Mmmm...sort of. Argentina, almost. Uruguay, not quite. Uruguay is no longer the ex-pat paradise of preference for those who can pay the air fare for a semiannual commute.

    Chile, now, yes, Chile is first world -- many thanks to being vigorous about telling the US gubmint to keep the hell out of Chile's business. I'm planning a trip to Arica this winter. I may stay over for quite awhile.
    , @Montefrío
    I live in one of the countries you named and have traveled widely in the other two: none is "first world". Neither are they "whiter" than the US, save for certain districts. What's true is that there is nothing approaching the racial animosity that exists up north and that racial intermarriage is far more common in these countries, which in some areas are indeed very pleasant places in which to live. One feature of the three you forgot: in none of them is there much of an Afro presence, a factor of no small importance.
    , @L.K
    I know all 3 countries;

    Argentina and Uruguay certainly do have white majorities, though if more(%) than the ZUSA, I could not say.
    Whites in these countries are predominantly of Spanish and Italian descent, there is also a large German diaspora in Argentina, etc. There is a significant mestizo minority in Argentina, plus mestizo and Amerindian immigrants from countries like Bolivia, etc.

    Chile, I don't think has a white majority. Its population is mostly a blend of whites and mestizos.
    In total numbers, non Hispanic Brazil has the most whites in Latin America, more heavily concentrated in the Southern parts of the country.

    None of these countries are really "first world", certainly not by US standards.
    Argentina used to be considered a developed country, til the 1940s/50s, but not anymore.

    Considering that a lot of European countries were quite poor until relatively recent times, and some still are not quite developed, none of this is too surprising.
    Take East Asia, for example, only 50 years ago, South Korea was quite poor.
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  45. MarkinLA says:
    @Bayan
    Branko Milanović, who is at the World Bank in his book 'Global Inequality' addresses the question of immigration.

    The problem he says is exacerbated by the dichotomy of full citizen vs illegal immigrant. He suggests something in-between that can reduce the tension. Have legal immigrants free to work but without citizenship rights, and with full rights of movement back and forth to their countries of origin. The idea is that they can overtime introduce economic and political reform and development to their countries of origin, and may eventually decide to move back to their countries for good.

    If we follow his advice all the illegals in the US will become legal with the right to work, but no citizenship rights. It is an intermediate solution. But, would the Right or the Left accept such a solution?

    It is a good idea if you want to make sure low income people never get a raise.

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  46. MarkinLA says:
    @Simplyamazed
    Now Really! Such an unhealthy obsession with this loosely-defined concept called "race".

    Now am I supposed to understand that Latinos are racially different than the "white Americans"? Aren't many Latinos descended from Spanish settlers?

    Who are these "white Americans"? How do they stand out from many other European immigrants? A century ago Highland Scots were considered "racially inferior" being of the "Celtic race". Last time I looked Highland Games are quite the rage and lots of people claim lineage, even among those who consider themselves "white Americans". Those Irish immigrants were quite the problem in the late 1800's and into the early 1900's, being "racially inferior" and Catholic to boot.

    This fixation on "race" likely connects to the fear of those who are culturally, not genetically, different and reflects poorly on those who fall back on such vague ideas that don't stand up to scrutiny (what are the genetic differences that define "race" so clearly that it is easy to use to categorise individuals as well as whole groups?) It seems to me that it is fear of cultural differences that are reflected in attitudes towards those "inferior blacks" and "redskins" and "slant-eyed orientals. Serbs, Poles, Czechs, Russians, and assorted others say they are Slavic but now we are told to hate those pesky Russians while siding with the heroic Poles.

    I feel that "Animal Farm" tells us all we need to know about this issue.

    Now Really! Such an unhealthy obsession with this loosely-defined concept called “race”.

    Maybe you should tell this to the government. Oh wait, people like you who crow about “not seeing race” are just fine with affirmative action and all the government race based programs.

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    You incorrectly make assumptions about what I may or may not believe or support. Don't tag others with your prejudices.
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  47. MarkinLA says:
    @Flat Cat
    Speaking of small towns in Tennessee...mine has a chicken factory. You know, where they manufacture chickens? Smells great. Half of northern Mexico works there. White folks manage it. Lot of immigrants, both legal and illegal have settled the area.

    And there are the usual problems. Many drive, often badly, and almost always without licenses or insurance in the case of the illegals. Some commit crimes. This does not differentiate them from their white and black neighbors.

    I honestly don't care. The Mexicans (catchall term for anyone from south of Texas) seem to be mostly employed, pregnant, or raising kids. They keep to themselves and are generally polite. Conflict outside of the political theatre that afflicts us every two to four years is pretty rare, probably because they come from a nominally Christian culture, much like my fellow native East Tennesseans.

    I'd be much more concerned if there were, say, hundreds of thousands of fighting age males from Africa or the Middle East being ported in and given free reign outside the law. It is wise to count your blessings, even if they don't seem like blessings at the time.

    One thing, Fred, and I know this cannot encompass all Latinas, but I see very, very few attractive Mexican women up here. Maybe it's be cause of the region most of the come from is less mixed than others, but most are short, round, and a bit rugged looking.

    A wave of beautiful young women of the sort pictured at the top of your article would be a welcome event indeed.

    I honestly don’t care.

    Wait till they get into politics like they are in California.

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  48. KenH says:

    Fred likes to post boner material like this as if it’s representative of the Mexican girls sneaking into America and to intimate that white males could be sleeping next to them if they weren’t such poopy face restrictionists and racial purists. There are very pretty Mexican girls and women, but in reality, most who are sneaking into America could force many red blooded white males to take a vow of celibacy. The girl in the photo is probably 1 in 100 at best, if not 500.

    Fred should be more honest and post pictures of menacing looking mestizo gang bangers with face and neck tattoos or Mexican women who look like they’ve downed their fair share of tacos or never used a treadmill in their life.

    The President agrees with them.

    Nice try, Fred, but Donald Trump disavowed the alt-right right after the election.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/donald-trump-disavow-groups-new-york-times/index.html

    Did Barack Hussein ever disavow BLM or NOI? Does Tom Perez or any other heavy hitting Mestizo politico ever disavow La Raza or MEChA? Only whites are expected to denounce their racial extremists.

    He is openly hostile to some 43 million American citizens. He has placed Mexico itself among “our enemies,” His “Mexicans are rapists” assertion resonated among Latinos much as Hillary’s Deplorables among Americans. How smart is this?

    Freddy, similar to the most progs, took Trumps comments totally out of context and went totally off the deep end. Trump is not hostile to Mexicans residing in America LEGALLY. Trump stated an undisputed fact that Mexico is encouraging its rapists and criminals to cross the border into America. This is corroborated by the numbers of mestizo illegal aliens in state and federal prisons for committing violent crimes including rape. This is another fun fact Fred purposely leaves out since his case would fall apart.

    Here’s anti-Mexican bigot Trump proclaiming his love for the Mexican people:

    Here’s Islamophobe and misogynist Trump proclaiming his love for Mexicans, Muslims and women:

    Here’s closet klansmen Trump proposing a new deal for black America and pledging to be their greatest champion:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-aide-makes-apparent-threat-against-megyn-kelly-after-on-air-tiff/2016/10/26/59f260fe-9b71-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html?utm_term=.cbbec03bed33

    I’ve been searching in vain for Trump videos where he proposes his love for and a new deal for white Americans and pledges to be our champion, but I’ve come up short. In Jewish occupied America, every politician knows that to make race based appeals to the white majority or show any concern for them is a career killer.

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  49. @bartok

    Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.
     
    There's no evidence for this conclusion. The Atlantic magazine (not an outlier) 100 years ago spewed hatred toward the Irish with "Brace yourself, Bridget!" cartoons and the like. Domestic tranquility ensued.

    Ethnics have a love/hate relationship with Whites. Contrary to Fred's statements, Whites don't care about Ethnics, we just move to 'better school districts' and forget them. The Ethnics that love us will chase us and assimilate and intermarry. The Ethnics that hate us will sit in their filth.

    “The Ethnics that hate us will sit in their filth.”– Maybe, maybe not.

    Do you think white flight is due to “the ethnics that hate us” just staying where they are and sitting in their filth?

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  50. Truth says:

    …Here we go again…

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  51. This absurd and pathetic apologia is yet another in a long list of half-truths, solipsisms and straw-men paraded as serious argument.

    It is now indisputable that this writer is an intellectual feather-weight compelled to consistently misrepresent Latin America and its detractors.

    It is wholly unnecessary to remark that there are no “successful” Latin American nations. Only successful facsimiles of North America. And that the facsimile is usually of poor quality and which collapses forthwith under pressure.

    The whole world is a gigantic laboratory where HBD experiments occur continuously and continually. Only a liar and a fool would claim that Latin Americans can maintain a North American and/or Western European level of civilization and one would have to be an utter tool and knave to assert that Latin Americans are anywhere close to being as competent and law-abiding as Anglos.

    I grow tired of this pitiful loser’s pathetic and disingenuous attempts to smear the land of his birth whilst inflating the land of his lusts. Can Mr. Unz please stop inflicting this garbage upon his loyal subscribers?

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    Just think of him as the Tokyo Rose of Lake Chapala, and it all begins to make sense. Hey GI Joe, why you fight so hard? Are you enjoying yourselves while I look alarmingly at Mexican girls?
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  52. David says:
    @The Alarmist
    I dunno, Fred ... showing pictures of latina honeys doesn't necessarily help the medicine go down, but it doesn't hurt.

    She looks 14. She’ll be a fudge colored Michelin man in 6 years.

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    Yes she does. She is very pretty but she might not be a 'latina'. The 'Michelin Man' comment was viciously good & funny.
    , @Joe Wong
    It is a very cruel thing to say.
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  53. I’m a big fan, Fred.

    In this case, I think you have grossly misstated President Trump’s policy positions and public statements.

    I’m a Trump supporter, and I don’t bear Mexicans any animosity, nor do I have the cartoon image of Mexican society that you seem to think I should have.

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  54. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The figures typically used for making “mass deportation” look horrifying are not, in reality, big numbers. Reed quotes “125,000″ a month for 8 years. That is not a LOT of people in transit — ask any large airport manager. The transport of illegals OUT is not a logistics hurdle any more onerous than planning a crosstown bus system.

    Now, sure, the real problem is the US government giving illegals hearings. That is a problem embedded in the corruption and extortion machine that is the US government.

    The real solution is to impose fines and prison sentences on Americans employing illegals. Then ENFORCE it. Send Ivanka and Jared to jail for six months and fine them $100,000 for each illegal they employ. I guarantee you the “illegal” problem would come to an end tout suite.

    Stop coddling the crooked US government. Start hanging congress-critters. You will be surprised at how quickly law and order is restored.

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  55. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @MarkinLA
    Argentina, Uruguay, and possibly Chile are more white than the US is and likely ever was. There isn't much of an Amerindian presence. The last indigenous people in Tierra Del Fuego died out a long time ago. They had generous immigration policies for Europeans before WWII. These are nice countries and first world.

    Argentina, Uruguay, and possibly Chile are more white than the US is and likely ever was. There isn’t much of an Amerindian presence. They had generous immigration policies for Europeans before WWII. These are nice countries and first world.

    Mmmm…sort of. Argentina, almost. Uruguay, not quite. Uruguay is no longer the ex-pat paradise of preference for those who can pay the air fare for a semiannual commute.

    Chile, now, yes, Chile is first world — many thanks to being vigorous about telling the US gubmint to keep the hell out of Chile’s business. I’m planning a trip to Arica this winter. I may stay over for quite awhile.

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    Argentina looked good to me when I as there. Some Uruguayans were on the bike tour and indicated the place was like Argentina. My views of the place on the internet were impressive. Those three countries are the cream of the crop for South America.
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  56. @Talha

    Unlike blacks and Muslims, they do not see whites and Christians as mortal enemies.
     
    Keep the Mexicans, but we gotta deal with the Blacks and Muslims - got it!

    And...oh - crap for crap - will you look at that:
    " A report from Press-Enterprise called the Latino Muslims one of the fastest-growing ethnic groups in the nation. Statistics isn't tracked, but the report said there are an estimated 150,000 converts in the country."
    http://www.latinpost.com/articles/105363/20151230/number-latinos-converting-islam-growing.htm

    And most of them are chicas - orale homes!
    "About 90 percent of that are converts, and of those converts, most are women."
    https://www.vibe.com/2016/09/growing-number-latinas-convert-islam/

    Peace.

    When you see stats like that, you start to wonder if the western world needs its men to go back to the days of abusing and degrading their women … it seems they want it.

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    Hey The Alarmist,

    No need for all that. Just act like men and don't accept feminism at its core premises. Those societies that dismantle patriarchy, do so at their own risk. Patriarchy does not necessitate abuse and degradation, simply that men help the women they have responsibility over (daughters, wives, etc.) in managing their affairs.

    Peace.
    , @Anon
    I don't know, maybe they think it's better being expected to be "abused and degraded" than being expected to abuse and degrade themselves. My preference is for a society where neither is the case.
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  57. AP says:
    @Flat Cat
    Speaking of small towns in Tennessee...mine has a chicken factory. You know, where they manufacture chickens? Smells great. Half of northern Mexico works there. White folks manage it. Lot of immigrants, both legal and illegal have settled the area.

    And there are the usual problems. Many drive, often badly, and almost always without licenses or insurance in the case of the illegals. Some commit crimes. This does not differentiate them from their white and black neighbors.

    I honestly don't care. The Mexicans (catchall term for anyone from south of Texas) seem to be mostly employed, pregnant, or raising kids. They keep to themselves and are generally polite. Conflict outside of the political theatre that afflicts us every two to four years is pretty rare, probably because they come from a nominally Christian culture, much like my fellow native East Tennesseans.

    I'd be much more concerned if there were, say, hundreds of thousands of fighting age males from Africa or the Middle East being ported in and given free reign outside the law. It is wise to count your blessings, even if they don't seem like blessings at the time.

    One thing, Fred, and I know this cannot encompass all Latinas, but I see very, very few attractive Mexican women up here. Maybe it's be cause of the region most of the come from is less mixed than others, but most are short, round, and a bit rugged looking.

    A wave of beautiful young women of the sort pictured at the top of your article would be a welcome event indeed.

    One thing, Fred, and I know this cannot encompass all Latinas, but I see very, very few attractive Mexican women up here. Maybe it’s be cause of the region most of the come from is less mixed than others, but most are short, round, and a bit rugged looking.

    This is a common observation.

    Mexicans immigrants are mostly poor and uneducated, working class types. Are whites with the same socioeconomic status much thinner or more attractive? I suspect that if one controls for income, there won’t be much of a difference. I doubt the people described are rounder or more rugged-looking than their white neighbors of similar education level.

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    You're probably right, though I didn't intend for the comment to be a comparison of female Mexican immigrants to native white women. Low income folks from anywhere in the world probably suffer from similar lifestyles (little exercise or very rough work related exercise, poor diet, etc.) that cause physical attractiveness to fade quickly.

    I know girls who were very, very attractive in their late teens/early twenties who came from, for lack of a better label, white trash families who lived that lifestyle and are now absolute wrecks. Others who came from the same background, but didn't live the hard and fast life, have generally aged much more gracefully. It is interesting that those women are often the ones who either kept up with their education, found good full time jobs during or right after high school, or married a man from a higher income bracket than the one they grew up in.

    Lifestyle and self respect are certainly important factors in living well past our youthful prime.

    Anyway, I'm not a racial purist. I wouldn't mind to marry and have a family with a woman of a different race so long as I found her attractive and shared at least some commonality in culture and worldview. I believe that maintaining a strong culture of Christian values and individual liberty is far more important than keeping the skin tone of the general population uniform.

    That's just me, though.
    , @Bill

    Are whites with the same socioeconomic status much thinner or more attractive?
     
    You're trying to claim that the socioeconomic status causes the ugliness?
    , @White Noise
    "Mexicans immigrants are mostly poor and uneducated, working class types. Are whites with the same socioeconomic status much thinner or more attractive? I suspect that if one controls for income, there won’t be much of a difference. I doubt the people described are rounder or more rugged-looking than their white neighbors of similar education level."

    Exactly...

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  58. KenH says:

    While racial purity is in bad odor currently, it is actually a very good idea–if you can get it. No diversity, no racial strife, riots, burning cities, or endless anger over immigration.

    That’s sort of the whole point of white nationalism and the alt-right. We’re sick and tired of racial tension owing to forced integration and mass third world immigration and getting blamed for every black and brown person’s problems and failures. Multiculturalism and diversity have been colossal failures and the presence of 57 million Latinos hasn’t helped matters. The establishment right and left are utterly intellectually bankrupt with no solutions.

    The white race has been by far the most successful and creative the planet has known. A desire to keep it around makes great sense. Well and good.

    Indisputable and white nationalists and alt-righters understand and acknowledge this and want to take measures to safeguard its future. Cuckservatives and Jewish led loony leftists deny this with the latter openly seeking our disenfranchisement and demise. The moral cowardice and failures of the cucked right created a vacuum for the alt-right and white nationalism.

    But I guess Fred’s telling us racialist whites that the odds are long, so since we can’t beat the current system, may as well join it and enter into an interracial relationship, preferably with a Latina, just like him and live happily ever after.

    I notice how Mexico like its light brown racial purity with its highly restrictive immigration laws and vigorous control of their Southern border, but if a segment of whites in America desire the very same thing for their own people we’re treated to long winded, emotional and fact averse lectures from the great Fred Reed.

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  59. @Anonymous
    Esteemed Father !
    ¿ By any chance did you mean Jeb Bush, instead of GWB ?

    Yeah, GW Bush married a nice white librarian who, at the age of 17, ran through a stop sign and killed someone who reputedly was her ex boyfriend. Accident. Right.

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    Yeah, GW Bush married a nice white librarian who, at the age of 17, ran through a stop sign and killed someone who reputedly was her ex boyfriend. Accident. Right.
     
    Hell yeah!

    Do you have any more of these laser-focus, point-by-point refutations of doctrine? Or, whatever the hell point you might be struggling to make, out there in the darkness, dimly?
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  60. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @The Alarmist
    Yeah, GW Bush married a nice white librarian who, at the age of 17, ran through a stop sign and killed someone who reputedly was her ex boyfriend. Accident. Right.

    Yeah, GW Bush married a nice white librarian who, at the age of 17, ran through a stop sign and killed someone who reputedly was her ex boyfriend. Accident. Right.

    Hell yeah!

    Do you have any more of these laser-focus, point-by-point refutations of doctrine? Or, whatever the hell point you might be struggling to make, out there in the darkness, dimly?

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  61. Talha says:
    @The Alarmist
    When you see stats like that, you start to wonder if the western world needs its men to go back to the days of abusing and degrading their women ... it seems they want it.

    Hey The Alarmist,

    No need for all that. Just act like men and don’t accept feminism at its core premises. Those societies that dismantle patriarchy, do so at their own risk. Patriarchy does not necessitate abuse and degradation, simply that men help the women they have responsibility over (daughters, wives, etc.) in managing their affairs.

    Peace.

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  62. vx37 says:

    Hey Fred, how about a list of great Mexican inventors?

    These foreigners will put a far left government in place and the First and Second Amendment will be toast. How much struggle over how many centuries and with how many deaths did it take to win these freedoms for the people? Should we be overjoyed to give up our freedoms just for the “pleasure” of multiculturalism and multi-racialism? The effect of mass invasion is to disenfranchise actual Americans, should we welcome that? What people have benefited by turning over their territory, culture, and power structure to hostile foreigners? The true expression of the Hispanic attitude is who they elect to office. With very few exceptions their elected officials are uniformly leftist, uniformly anti-white, and uniformly support budget-busting welfare leeching. Is there any reason to think this will get better in the future? Should their victims be happy about that?

    The whining about Trump or some anonymous person on the internet disparaging Mexicans is particularly galling. As if the media, academia, minorities, leftist political activists and politicians don’t vomit genocidal hatred on whites 24/7/365. You can hardly go a week without one of these thugs gloating about the extermination of whites and suffering no consequences because of it. The chief victims of racism, the victims of actual genocidal policy, are expected to feel sorry for gnat bites on the beneficiaries of genocide.

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    Hey Fred, how about a list of great Mexican inventors?
     
    Spain itself is not notable for scientific and technological brilliance. It produced many good artists and soldiers. Mexicans, like Spaniards, have excelled in the arts. Mexico has beautiful architecture and has produced some notable artists, writers, directors. Taking into account enlistment requirements, Latinos are overrepesented in the US military.
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  63. AP says:
    @vx37
    Hey Fred, how about a list of great Mexican inventors?

    These foreigners will put a far left government in place and the First and Second Amendment will be toast. How much struggle over how many centuries and with how many deaths did it take to win these freedoms for the people? Should we be overjoyed to give up our freedoms just for the "pleasure" of multiculturalism and multi-racialism? The effect of mass invasion is to disenfranchise actual Americans, should we welcome that? What people have benefited by turning over their territory, culture, and power structure to hostile foreigners? The true expression of the Hispanic attitude is who they elect to office. With very few exceptions their elected officials are uniformly leftist, uniformly anti-white, and uniformly support budget-busting welfare leeching. Is there any reason to think this will get better in the future? Should their victims be happy about that?

    The whining about Trump or some anonymous person on the internet disparaging Mexicans is particularly galling. As if the media, academia, minorities, leftist political activists and politicians don't vomit genocidal hatred on whites 24/7/365. You can hardly go a week without one of these thugs gloating about the extermination of whites and suffering no consequences because of it. The chief victims of racism, the victims of actual genocidal policy, are expected to feel sorry for gnat bites on the beneficiaries of genocide.

    Hey Fred, how about a list of great Mexican inventors?

    Spain itself is not notable for scientific and technological brilliance. It produced many good artists and soldiers. Mexicans, like Spaniards, have excelled in the arts. Mexico has beautiful architecture and has produced some notable artists, writers, directors. Taking into account enlistment requirements, Latinos are overrepesented in the US military.

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  64. @MarkinLA
    Now Really! Such an unhealthy obsession with this loosely-defined concept called “race”.

    Maybe you should tell this to the government. Oh wait, people like you who crow about "not seeing race" are just fine with affirmative action and all the government race based programs.

    You incorrectly make assumptions about what I may or may not believe or support. Don’t tag others with your prejudices.

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    Well you would be the very first person claiming "there are no races" who also rejects the racial grievance industry that I have ever seen, read, or heard from.
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  65. The pretty Latina featured at the top of the column is no more representative of Latinas in general than Marilyn Monroe’s looks would be representative of white women. Yes there are pretty Latinas but for each one I see here in Central Texas I see ten short, overweight young girls, a baby in hand with two or three slightly older siblings trailing behind. The brown race does not have to worry about race suicide as does the Caucasian with its alarmingly low birth rate which will be in danger of extinction as a separate race. However, as another poster has suggested there will be increasing intermarriage between whites and browns that on some future date The US demographic will be more like some countries in South America, i.e, Argentina, Uruguay. Whether that is good or bad depends on one’s point of view I suppose. .

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  66. @Pilgrim786
    This absurd and pathetic apologia is yet another in a long list of half-truths, solipsisms and straw-men paraded as serious argument.

    It is now indisputable that this writer is an intellectual feather-weight compelled to consistently misrepresent Latin America and its detractors.

    It is wholly unnecessary to remark that there are no "successful" Latin American nations. Only successful facsimiles of North America. And that the facsimile is usually of poor quality and which collapses forthwith under pressure.

    The whole world is a gigantic laboratory where HBD experiments occur continuously and continually. Only a liar and a fool would claim that Latin Americans can maintain a North American and/or Western European level of civilization and one would have to be an utter tool and knave to assert that Latin Americans are anywhere close to being as competent and law-abiding as Anglos.

    I grow tired of this pitiful loser's pathetic and disingenuous attempts to smear the land of his birth whilst inflating the land of his lusts. Can Mr. Unz please stop inflicting this garbage upon his loyal subscribers?

    Just think of him as the Tokyo Rose of Lake Chapala, and it all begins to make sense. Hey GI Joe, why you fight so hard? Are you enjoying yourselves while I look alarmingly at Mexican girls?

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    2234 murders/1 month x 12 months/year = 26,808 murders/year

    26,808/127,000,000 people in Mexico = 2.11 x 10^-4 murders per person

    2.11 x 10^-4 x 100,000 = 21.1 murders per 100,000 people

    This ranks Mexico right up there with the Elite in murderous violence in the World. Compare Denmark's 0.48, Ireland's 0.28, Iraq's 8.0, Pakistan's 7.8, Venezuela's 57 and Brazil's 35

    Let's hear it for our civilized neighbors to the south!!!
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  68. @ThreeCranes
    Mexico murders at 20 year peak...

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_MEXICO_VIOLENCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-07-22-02-17-20

    2234 murders/1 month x 12 months/year = 26,808 murders/year

    26,808/127,000,000 people in Mexico = 2.11 x 10^-4 murders per person

    2.11 x 10^-4 x 100,000 = 21.1 murders per 100,000 people

    This ranks Mexico right up there with the Elite in murderous violence in the World. Compare Denmark’s 0.48, Ireland’s 0.28, Iraq’s 8.0, Pakistan’s 7.8, Venezuela’s 57 and Brazil’s 35

    Let’s hear it for our civilized neighbors to the south!!!

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    "Iraq's 8.0"

    Really? At least around 8000 civilians were killed in the Mosul offensive alone, which occupied less than a year, while Iraq's population is around 40,000,000. That's 8 per 40,000, not 100,000 (=20/100K).
    , @Bragadocious
    And notice that liberals get twisted in knots when you mention these numbers. On the one hand, they insist Mexico is equal in every way to the U.S., and to suggest otherwise is racist. When you bring up gun murders and compare the U.S. to Mexico, they blurt out oh, you're comparing the U.S. to a less developed country. Is that the kind of company you want to keep? Let's talk about Denmark!
    , @Simplyamazed
    Although murder rates are high in Mexico at roughly 3 times the U.S. rate, overall violent crime is roughly the same in both countries. The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments). People als need to take account of the fact that many cities in the U.S. have murder rates equal to or greater than the overall rate for Mexico, but many of those cities are considered safe enough to live in and to visit (take Chicago and Orlando as examples). Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful. Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make. Mexico is a comparatively civilised country by most measures.
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  69. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @The Alarmist
    When you see stats like that, you start to wonder if the western world needs its men to go back to the days of abusing and degrading their women ... it seems they want it.

    I don’t know, maybe they think it’s better being expected to be “abused and degraded” than being expected to abuse and degrade themselves. My preference is for a society where neither is the case.

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  70. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @ThreeCranes
    2234 murders/1 month x 12 months/year = 26,808 murders/year

    26,808/127,000,000 people in Mexico = 2.11 x 10^-4 murders per person

    2.11 x 10^-4 x 100,000 = 21.1 murders per 100,000 people

    This ranks Mexico right up there with the Elite in murderous violence in the World. Compare Denmark's 0.48, Ireland's 0.28, Iraq's 8.0, Pakistan's 7.8, Venezuela's 57 and Brazil's 35

    Let's hear it for our civilized neighbors to the south!!!

    “Iraq’s 8.0″

    Really? At least around 8000 civilians were killed in the Mosul offensive alone, which occupied less than a year, while Iraq’s population is around 40,000,000. That’s 8 per 40,000, not 100,000 (=20/100K).

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  72. turtle says:

    >racial purity of European stock
    Puede Ud. decir criollo?

    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criollo

    Quite a few of those (not illegal) “Latinos” que estan aqui en los E.U. are descended from Europeans whose ancestors were here wayyy before us gringos.
    We, los Ingleses, are the ones who might need to “assimilate.”
    But, it is all good, at least here in SoCal where I now live, and in Nuevo Mexico where I lived as a child.
    *DO* *NOT* insult any of these “Hispanic” people by calling them “Mexicans.”
    They don’t like wetbacks any more than you do.

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  74. turtle says:

    Famous Mexican scientists?
    Here are three, for starters:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_J._Molina

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_E._Miramontes

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Baez

    Google is your friend, if you want to know more…

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  75. turtle says:

    USsians (citizens of USA) are not the only xenophobes
    Por ejemplo:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Salvadoran

    >Because of their Ottoman passports, Middle Easterners in Central America were labeled as “Turks,” and barred from civil society,

    >as recently as 2000, a conservative Salvadoran political commentator, Rafael Colindres, wrote an essay suggesting, “Perhaps a pogrom would be the solution to the Turk problem.”

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    To use "Xenophobic" is to immediately out oneself as a charlatan. No other term in modern political discourse is more loaded or less descriptive of the reality it attempts to portray.
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  76. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous

    Argentina, Uruguay, and possibly Chile are more white than the US is and likely ever was. There isn’t much of an Amerindian presence. They had generous immigration policies for Europeans before WWII. These are nice countries and first world.
     
    Mmmm...sort of. Argentina, almost. Uruguay, not quite. Uruguay is no longer the ex-pat paradise of preference for those who can pay the air fare for a semiannual commute.

    Chile, now, yes, Chile is first world -- many thanks to being vigorous about telling the US gubmint to keep the hell out of Chile's business. I'm planning a trip to Arica this winter. I may stay over for quite awhile.

    Argentina looked good to me when I as there. Some Uruguayans were on the bike tour and indicated the place was like Argentina. My views of the place on the internet were impressive. Those three countries are the cream of the crop for South America.

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  77. MarkinLA says:
    @Simplyamazed
    You incorrectly make assumptions about what I may or may not believe or support. Don't tag others with your prejudices.

    Well you would be the very first person claiming “there are no races” who also rejects the racial grievance industry that I have ever seen, read, or heard from.

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    You are not quoting me when you state "there are no races". Read what I did say and stop making things up.

    I said that the concept called "race" as used in this article is so unclear and devoid of meaning that it is useless. Although there may be a genetic basis for some kind of racial classification that could turn out to be useful, this article does not use the term in any way that helps define a group unless you use cultural distinctions such as language, religion, and cuisine. To explain further, are so-called "white Americans" so distinct that one can easily tell one from, say, a Spanish American, especially if both grew up in the same community in the U.S. and, for example, both attended and graduated from the same university?

    I am also offended by the baseless assertion that many others are making, citing "race" as a basis, that because people think someone is fat they are somehow unworthy or inferior or feckless. Americans are perceived as a fat group in many parts of Europe. So What?
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  78. MEH 0910 says:

    Family Guy – Jeb Bush And His Wife

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  79. Yancey says:

    [Select a single Handle and stick with it, or all your future comments may get trashed.]

    Fred is a turncoat and that is obvious to anyone who has read his scribblings for a sustained period of time. He is married to a Jewish woman that has influenced Fred to hate his race and his nation or origin. It has been mentioned several times that his (((wife))) also cheats on him with a variety of young Mexican men in their immediate area.

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    It has been mentioned several times that his (((wife))) also cheats on him with a variety of young Mexican men in their immediate area.
     
    LMFAO! I've read this one a few times now, I'd love to know where it started.
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  80. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Since you seem so baffled by the concept of race and why people might be interested in it, I'll point you to the link below. It may explain some things. Also, you could just go and ask the Jews, Japanese, Koreans, La Raza, etc. They would be able to fill you in on why they care. Another more direct way is to ask some kids from Mexican gangs, MS-13 or the Crips why race matters.

    Simply put, a race or ethnicity is an extended family with all of the quirks and similarities that families exhibit, and, unless you're a sociopath, you tend to care more about your family than other families. You also look out for family more than you look-out for non-family members. Finally, you want your family to continue into the future.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-race-faq.html

    I have read what is written in the link you provided as well as what you said about race being family and I am now understand why people might use race a lot, since the discussion makes it clear that “race”. like “family” means whatever the speaker wants it to mean from time to time. Anyone who thinks family can mean the human “race”, i.e. all humans alive on the face of the earth, while arguing that family loyalty, such as loving your mother, makes people love their “family”, ie. identifiable relatives such as mother, father, aunt and uncle, and thus determines what “race” he or she belongs to, really knows how to obfuscate.

    In short, your explanation and reference convince me that the term “race” as used in this article is devoid of meaning and content.

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    I'm not familiar with the reference, but I think a general truth is that the more homogeneous a bloodline or species becomes, the more opportunity for variation. Speaking of the human race is interesting only when comparing it to all other classifications. Within the human race, with indirect relation to its perceived homogeneity, folks are interested in carving out a small measure of uniqueness, to set themselves apart. In my experience many if not most progressives may speak eloquently of the virtues of the human race but are disgusted by the mass of humanity.
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  81. Truth says:
    @Yancey
    [Select a single Handle and stick with it, or all your future comments may get trashed.]

    Fred is a turncoat and that is obvious to anyone who has read his scribblings for a sustained period of time. He is married to a Jewish woman that has influenced Fred to hate his race and his nation or origin. It has been mentioned several times that his (((wife))) also cheats on him with a variety of young Mexican men in their immediate area.

    It has been mentioned several times that his (((wife))) also cheats on him with a variety of young Mexican men in their immediate area.

    LMFAO! I’ve read this one a few times now, I’d love to know where it started.

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  82. @ThreeCranes
    2234 murders/1 month x 12 months/year = 26,808 murders/year

    26,808/127,000,000 people in Mexico = 2.11 x 10^-4 murders per person

    2.11 x 10^-4 x 100,000 = 21.1 murders per 100,000 people

    This ranks Mexico right up there with the Elite in murderous violence in the World. Compare Denmark's 0.48, Ireland's 0.28, Iraq's 8.0, Pakistan's 7.8, Venezuela's 57 and Brazil's 35

    Let's hear it for our civilized neighbors to the south!!!

    And notice that liberals get twisted in knots when you mention these numbers. On the one hand, they insist Mexico is equal in every way to the U.S., and to suggest otherwise is racist. When you bring up gun murders and compare the U.S. to Mexico, they blurt out oh, you’re comparing the U.S. to a less developed country. Is that the kind of company you want to keep? Let’s talk about Denmark!

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  83. @MarkinLA
    Well you would be the very first person claiming "there are no races" who also rejects the racial grievance industry that I have ever seen, read, or heard from.

    You are not quoting me when you state “there are no races”. Read what I did say and stop making things up.

    I said that the concept called “race” as used in this article is so unclear and devoid of meaning that it is useless. Although there may be a genetic basis for some kind of racial classification that could turn out to be useful, this article does not use the term in any way that helps define a group unless you use cultural distinctions such as language, religion, and cuisine. To explain further, are so-called “white Americans” so distinct that one can easily tell one from, say, a Spanish American, especially if both grew up in the same community in the U.S. and, for example, both attended and graduated from the same university?

    I am also offended by the baseless assertion that many others are making, citing “race” as a basis, that because people think someone is fat they are somehow unworthy or inferior or feckless. Americans are perceived as a fat group in many parts of Europe. So What?

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    In a previous post I wrote that for every pretty Latina I see, I observe ten young Latinas that are short, overweight with a baby in hand and two slightly older siblings trailing behind. In this regard I am stating a fact. In no way do I think these young girls are inferior or unworthy. I believe firmly that in the eyes of God we have been created equal. However I don't often see ten white overweight young girls with a baby in arms and two or three kids trailing behind. Perhaps they should if the Caucasian race is to perpetuate itself.
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  84. KenH says:

    Treat them as internal enemies and they will likely become such–wouldn’t you?–with grievous results lasting for generations.

    Then mestizos living in America should quit acting like enemies and stop burning and stomping on the American flag and lashing out at white America every time their ridiculous demands, like mass amnesty and race based freebies, aren’t met.

    The future? Many fear that Latinos won’t assimilate, the Alt-Right that they will.

    La Raza and other Latino activist organizations don’t encourage assimilation. In fact, they encourage antagonism and discourage assimilation by their words and deeds. Neither does the Mexican government encourage assimilation. Roughly 70% of Latinos vote for the fire breathing, anti-white Democrats, so to date they aren’t assimilating.

    It has nothing to do with the wishes of the alt-right.

    I have said that Mexico does not stop at its border, that wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico.
    Mexican Presidente Felipe Calderon in a 2007 NYT interview

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/03/world/americas/03mexico.html

    Unlike blacks and Muslims, they do not see whites and Christians as mortal enemies.

    Generally true. Race relations between whites and mestizos isn’t as toxic as whites and blacks but conflict still exists and it gets deliberately under reported by the media so whites don’t look askance at the new arrivals from South of the border. The fact that there’s a surplus of bellicose and racially chauvinistic leaders in the Mexican-American community almost ensures expanded conflict between whites and Latinos in the future.

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    The fact that there’s a surplus of bellicose and racially chauvinistic leaders in the Mexican-American community almost ensures expanded conflict between whites and Latinos in the future.
     
    The audience for such 'leaders' does not exist in the Mexican-American community. The funding and support for those leaders comes from white SJWs and their corporate and government contacts. They exist as a wedge for goodwhites against badwhites. Latinos mostly don't know or care about them.
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  85. @ThreeCranes
    2234 murders/1 month x 12 months/year = 26,808 murders/year

    26,808/127,000,000 people in Mexico = 2.11 x 10^-4 murders per person

    2.11 x 10^-4 x 100,000 = 21.1 murders per 100,000 people

    This ranks Mexico right up there with the Elite in murderous violence in the World. Compare Denmark's 0.48, Ireland's 0.28, Iraq's 8.0, Pakistan's 7.8, Venezuela's 57 and Brazil's 35

    Let's hear it for our civilized neighbors to the south!!!

    Although murder rates are high in Mexico at roughly 3 times the U.S. rate, overall violent crime is roughly the same in both countries. The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments). People als need to take account of the fact that many cities in the U.S. have murder rates equal to or greater than the overall rate for Mexico, but many of those cities are considered safe enough to live in and to visit (take Chicago and Orlando as examples). Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful. Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make. Mexico is a comparatively civilised country by most measures.

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    The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments)
     
    Do you have a source for this?
    , @Bragadocious
    And you believe Mexican rape stats? 98% of crimes in Mexico go unsolved according to Human Rights Watch. Their DNA and forensic capabilities are a joke, and even if it were up to an acceptable standard, most cops wouldn't even understand how to collect the evidence and hold it properly. You're really gullible.
    , @silviosilver

    People als need to take account of the fact that many cities in the U.S. have murder rates equal to or greater than the overall rate for Mexico, but many of those cities are considered safe enough to live in and to visit (take Chicago and Orlando as examples). Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful. Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make.
     
    Simply hilarious.

    Hey, lulzy race-denying ignoramus, what "race" do you think is responsible for all those murders in Chicago?

    I'd love to tell you take a hike, but on second thoughts, I hope you stick around - you may well learn something after your moral outrage subsides.
    , @Pepe

    Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful.
     
    There are many peaceful places in Mexico, but lately Cancún is not one of them.

    Official reports have revealed that recent outbreaks of violence in one of Mexico's main tourist areas could be due to clashes between an independent cartel and the Zetas, providing another example of the evolution of criminal dynamics in the country.

    The recent attacks in the state of Quintana Roo -- home to popular tourist destinations like Cancún and Playa del Carmen -- are reportedly the result of an attempt by the Zetas to retake control of lucrative drug distribution points in the area, according to federal intelligence reports obtained by El Universal.
     
    http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/violence-mexico-tourism-corridor-reflects-evolving-criminal-dynamics

    The shooting at a bar in Playa del Carmen early Monday brought to the forefront an issue that many have known about and feared for some time: drug trafficking and extortion are a part of the landscape.

    “There’s a lot of drugs, everywhere. They are blatantly sold in any bar; if you go to the restrooms you’re offered coke, pot, ecstasy,” one local resident told the news agency EFE.

    That period of time has been enough for Alberto to become aware of a notable increase in drug sales during events such as the BPM Festival, which concluded Monday morning with five fatalities and 15 people wounded.
     
    http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/drugs-and-extortion-in-playa-del-carmen/

    Drug war bloodshed in Mexico has spiked to record levels, with more homicides recorded in June than in any month in at least two decades.

    The 12,155 homicide cases opened from January to June make 2017 the deadliest first half of a year.

    Though violence used to be concentrated in a handful of states, it is now rising nationwide, with 27 of Mexico’s 32 states recording an uptick in homicides compared with last year.

    That includes states that are home to formerly tranquil tourist destinations including Cancun and Cabo San Lucas, which have each been the site of deadly shootouts.
     
    http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-murders-20170721-story.html

    And, from today:

    The man believed to have been the head of a Cancún cell of one of Mexico’s biggest drug cartels was ordered yesterday to stand trial after his capture on Saturday.

    Joshua Loyo Peña, known as “El Lobo,” is suspected to have directed the January attack on the state Attorney General’s office in Cancún in which four people, including a police officer, were killed.

    He is also believed to be the Jalisco New Generation Cartel’s chief in Quintana Roo and one of the chief generators of violence in the state, but operating principally in Cancún and its hotel zone, ordering executions and extortion and managing the drug trade.

    Loyo Peña is credited with at least 30 executions in recent years.

    He was found after several houses in Cancún were searched by federal security forces and arrested along with six other presumed cartel members.
     
    http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/cartel-cell-boss-captured-in-cancun/

    As I recently posted over at Steve Sailer, you gotta keep up with this stuff, folks....
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  86. There are the nice parts of Mexico with nice Peoplez.

    But there is also this:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/07/21/mexico-experiences-deadliest-month-in-decades.html

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  87. @Simplyamazed
    You are not quoting me when you state "there are no races". Read what I did say and stop making things up.

    I said that the concept called "race" as used in this article is so unclear and devoid of meaning that it is useless. Although there may be a genetic basis for some kind of racial classification that could turn out to be useful, this article does not use the term in any way that helps define a group unless you use cultural distinctions such as language, religion, and cuisine. To explain further, are so-called "white Americans" so distinct that one can easily tell one from, say, a Spanish American, especially if both grew up in the same community in the U.S. and, for example, both attended and graduated from the same university?

    I am also offended by the baseless assertion that many others are making, citing "race" as a basis, that because people think someone is fat they are somehow unworthy or inferior or feckless. Americans are perceived as a fat group in many parts of Europe. So What?

    In a previous post I wrote that for every pretty Latina I see, I observe ten young Latinas that are short, overweight with a baby in hand and two slightly older siblings trailing behind. In this regard I am stating a fact. In no way do I think these young girls are inferior or unworthy. I believe firmly that in the eyes of God we have been created equal. However I don’t often see ten white overweight young girls with a baby in arms and two or three kids trailing behind. Perhaps they should if the Caucasian race is to perpetuate itself.

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  88. Ah, my simply-amazed friend. You say this, “Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make.” and I couldn’t agree more. So let’s see who is cherry picking.

    You compare the “violent crime” rate in “both countries” and then bore down to the rape rate and livability of specific cities such as Orlando and Chicago. But to do so is disingenuous for the simple reason that the majority of violent crime and a disproportionate numbers of rapes in America is and are committed by blacks, so much so that a very reasonable approximation of the rate of violent crime in any locale can be arrived at simply by noting the relative percentage of black people living there. When you speak of murder and rape this way, we say that you are not “disaggregating” your statistics.

    No one said anything about Mexico’s not being “comparatively civilized by most measures” or by any measures for that matter. I was talking about murder rates. As for Chicago being a “safe” city, well that all depends upon the neighborhood in which you choose to test your theory. Personally, I would feel safer in any Mexican city than in an American city that has a substantial proportion of blacks. As you say, for the most part Mexico is not only safe, but full of polite, hard-working, family oriented people. But one still needs to keep his wits about him when visiting there.

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  89. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Simplyamazed
    Although murder rates are high in Mexico at roughly 3 times the U.S. rate, overall violent crime is roughly the same in both countries. The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments). People als need to take account of the fact that many cities in the U.S. have murder rates equal to or greater than the overall rate for Mexico, but many of those cities are considered safe enough to live in and to visit (take Chicago and Orlando as examples). Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful. Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make. Mexico is a comparatively civilised country by most measures.

    The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments)

    Do you have a source for this?

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    Yes. A summary can be found at http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/United-States/Crime. The basis of these statistics can be found in United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime statistics, including their report on Sexual Violence against Children and Rape as well at the separate report on Rape Statistics. Also used are U.S. Census Bureau Statistics.
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  90. @Simplyamazed
    Although murder rates are high in Mexico at roughly 3 times the U.S. rate, overall violent crime is roughly the same in both countries. The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments). People als need to take account of the fact that many cities in the U.S. have murder rates equal to or greater than the overall rate for Mexico, but many of those cities are considered safe enough to live in and to visit (take Chicago and Orlando as examples). Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful. Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make. Mexico is a comparatively civilised country by most measures.

    And you believe Mexican rape stats? 98% of crimes in Mexico go unsolved according to Human Rights Watch. Their DNA and forensic capabilities are a joke, and even if it were up to an acceptable standard, most cops wouldn’t even understand how to collect the evidence and hold it properly. You’re really gullible.

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    I believe I am generally skeptical when I read statistics and try to find out how far they can be trusted. It seems to be generally accepted that rape is one of the most underreported crimes in almost all jurisdictions. So, it is necessary to drill down into the statistics to understand what they are really all about.

    Your comment equates enforcement by police and reporting of crime. These are not the same at all. The statistics I looked at were about reported incidence, not about convictions or police investigations.

    There are two types of unreported rape. One type occurs when the victim fails to report the crime. The second occurs when the recording agency (usually the police office where the victim goes to report) fails to record the victim's complaint or uses another category, such as aggravated assault, as a substitute. Substituting another crime for rape often is done to "protect" the victim.

    In the U.S. the F.B.I. collects crime statistics based on reported crimes (the Uniform Crime Report). The F.B.I. is not the agency that initially records and reports. This takes place at the municipal level. Many states do not require reporting. As a result the Uniform Crime Report is incomplete and understates crime.

    Epidemiological studies are carried out in some jurisdictions to help determine the "real" incidence of crime. In the U.S. the Bureau of Justice Statistics carries out a National Crime Victimization Survey which uses statistical sampling techiques to extrapolate actual national crime rates. A similar study is carried out in the U.K. Such studies demonstrate that there is significant underreporting of all types of crime with rape being one of the most underreported. According to Wikipedia, "In Italy, a 2006 National Statistic Institute survey on sexual violence against women found that 91.6% of women who suffered this did not report it to the police".

    So, yes, we need to be aware of the weaknesses of the statistical reporting systems we use. However, general levels of reporting tend to indicate trends and help to understand much about relative crime levels. I believe the relative difference in the rates of crime in Mexico and the U.S. as reported are useful for comparative purposes, when taken with a healthy grain of salt.
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  91. I’m waiting for someone to write a pro-immigration column illustrated with a picture of some woman’s big, bubbly, beautiful, Brazilian bum.

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  92. @anonymous

    The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments)
     
    Do you have a source for this?

    Yes. A summary can be found at http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/United-States/Crime. The basis of these statistics can be found in United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime statistics, including their report on Sexual Violence against Children and Rape as well at the separate report on Rape Statistics. Also used are U.S. Census Bureau Statistics.

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  93. @Bragadocious
    And you believe Mexican rape stats? 98% of crimes in Mexico go unsolved according to Human Rights Watch. Their DNA and forensic capabilities are a joke, and even if it were up to an acceptable standard, most cops wouldn't even understand how to collect the evidence and hold it properly. You're really gullible.

    I believe I am generally skeptical when I read statistics and try to find out how far they can be trusted. It seems to be generally accepted that rape is one of the most underreported crimes in almost all jurisdictions. So, it is necessary to drill down into the statistics to understand what they are really all about.

    Your comment equates enforcement by police and reporting of crime. These are not the same at all. The statistics I looked at were about reported incidence, not about convictions or police investigations.

    There are two types of unreported rape. One type occurs when the victim fails to report the crime. The second occurs when the recording agency (usually the police office where the victim goes to report) fails to record the victim’s complaint or uses another category, such as aggravated assault, as a substitute. Substituting another crime for rape often is done to “protect” the victim.

    In the U.S. the F.B.I. collects crime statistics based on reported crimes (the Uniform Crime Report). The F.B.I. is not the agency that initially records and reports. This takes place at the municipal level. Many states do not require reporting. As a result the Uniform Crime Report is incomplete and understates crime.

    Epidemiological studies are carried out in some jurisdictions to help determine the “real” incidence of crime. In the U.S. the Bureau of Justice Statistics carries out a National Crime Victimization Survey which uses statistical sampling techiques to extrapolate actual national crime rates. A similar study is carried out in the U.K. Such studies demonstrate that there is significant underreporting of all types of crime with rape being one of the most underreported. According to Wikipedia, “In Italy, a 2006 National Statistic Institute survey on sexual violence against women found that 91.6% of women who suffered this did not report it to the police”.

    So, yes, we need to be aware of the weaknesses of the statistical reporting systems we use. However, general levels of reporting tend to indicate trends and help to understand much about relative crime levels. I believe the relative difference in the rates of crime in Mexico and the U.S. as reported are useful for comparative purposes, when taken with a healthy grain of salt.

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    I believe the relative difference in the rates of crime in Mexico and the U.S. as reported are useful for comparative purposes, when taken with a healthy grain of salt.
     
    Sorry, but I don't see how you could think these stats are in any way useful. You discussed how the FBI collects rape stats. But how are rape stats collected in Mexico? Do you tell la policia and hope they record it?

    There are huge cultural and institutional differences at play when it comes to making country to country comparisons of violent crimes such as rape. I certainly hope that women aren't making their safety judgments based on extremely flimsy cross-national statistics. As if a women walking around in a random city in Australia is 153 times (or Sweden, 338x; Belgium, 146x; Iceland, 137x; New Zealand, 130x) more likely to be raped than a women walking around in a random city in Mozambique. That is beyond gullible. Quality of institutions mean everything in these cases, as well as having a culture where it is not only relatively safe to report a rape (especially without having to fear for your life or safety, as well as potential social repercussions), but also highly encouraged to do so.
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  94. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
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    I believe I am generally skeptical when I read statistics and try to find out how far they can be trusted. It seems to be generally accepted that rape is one of the most underreported crimes in almost all jurisdictions. So, it is necessary to drill down into the statistics to understand what they are really all about.

    Your comment equates enforcement by police and reporting of crime. These are not the same at all. The statistics I looked at were about reported incidence, not about convictions or police investigations.

    There are two types of unreported rape. One type occurs when the victim fails to report the crime. The second occurs when the recording agency (usually the police office where the victim goes to report) fails to record the victim's complaint or uses another category, such as aggravated assault, as a substitute. Substituting another crime for rape often is done to "protect" the victim.

    In the U.S. the F.B.I. collects crime statistics based on reported crimes (the Uniform Crime Report). The F.B.I. is not the agency that initially records and reports. This takes place at the municipal level. Many states do not require reporting. As a result the Uniform Crime Report is incomplete and understates crime.

    Epidemiological studies are carried out in some jurisdictions to help determine the "real" incidence of crime. In the U.S. the Bureau of Justice Statistics carries out a National Crime Victimization Survey which uses statistical sampling techiques to extrapolate actual national crime rates. A similar study is carried out in the U.K. Such studies demonstrate that there is significant underreporting of all types of crime with rape being one of the most underreported. According to Wikipedia, "In Italy, a 2006 National Statistic Institute survey on sexual violence against women found that 91.6% of women who suffered this did not report it to the police".

    So, yes, we need to be aware of the weaknesses of the statistical reporting systems we use. However, general levels of reporting tend to indicate trends and help to understand much about relative crime levels. I believe the relative difference in the rates of crime in Mexico and the U.S. as reported are useful for comparative purposes, when taken with a healthy grain of salt.

    I believe the relative difference in the rates of crime in Mexico and the U.S. as reported are useful for comparative purposes, when taken with a healthy grain of salt.

    Sorry, but I don’t see how you could think these stats are in any way useful. You discussed how the FBI collects rape stats. But how are rape stats collected in Mexico? Do you tell la policia and hope they record it?

    There are huge cultural and institutional differences at play when it comes to making country to country comparisons of violent crimes such as rape. I certainly hope that women aren’t making their safety judgments based on extremely flimsy cross-national statistics. As if a women walking around in a random city in Australia is 153 times (or Sweden, 338x; Belgium, 146x; Iceland, 137x; New Zealand, 130x) more likely to be raped than a women walking around in a random city in Mozambique. That is beyond gullible. Quality of institutions mean everything in these cases, as well as having a culture where it is not only relatively safe to report a rape (especially without having to fear for your life or safety, as well as potential social repercussions), but also highly encouraged to do so.

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    As if a women walking around in a random city in Australia is 153 times (or Sweden, 338x; Belgium, 146x; Iceland, 137x; New Zealand, 130x) more likely to be raped than a women walking around in a random city in Mozambique.
     
    It's so funny how clowns like Simplyamazed are willing to treat a statistical source as unimpeachable so long as it makes non-whites look good.

    It's clear by now there's no lie so gross they're unwilling to tell it in order to beat the 'racist.' Of course, when the liars are white, the only people they're 'beating' is themselves - which is sad.

    , @Simplyamazed
    Mexican crime statistics as reported by the police are considered to be generally inaccurate. In addition, a very high percentage of crime is not reported due to a high level of mistrust of police. To help to correct the reliability of crime statistics, alternative sources are used, following procedures similar to those used in the National Crime Victimization Survey in the U.S. A 2017 SPECIAL REPORT By Kimberly Heinle, Octavio Rodríguez Ferreira, and David A. Shirk Justice in Mexico Department of Political Science & International RelationsUniversity of San Diego talks about reliability of statistics in Mexico and how shortcomings are being overcome:

    "As noted earlier, homicide is one of the most frequently referenced measures of violence around the
    world. Compared with other violent crimes, like assault, robbery, rape, or kidnapping, homicide has
    a relatively high rate of reporting, in part because it is difficult to conceal. Even in Mexico, where
    there is a high degree of criminal impunity—with fewer than 25% of crimes reported, and just 2% of all crimes punished—homicides are more likely to be reported, investigated, and punished than
    other forms of violent crimes. Hence, homicide data provide an important measure of Mexico’s
    recent violence. ..... While all datasets have limitations, the most consistent, complete, and reliable source of information in Mexico is the autonomous government statistics agency, INEGI, which provides data on death by homicide and other forms of violent crime. It must be noted that INEGI’s homicide figures include both intentional and unintentional homicides, such as car accidents."

    INEGI , the National Institute of Statistics and Geography, carries out a regular National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security that implements reporting standards developed by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. It covers all forms of violent crime including rape, kidnappings, assault and robbery.

    Thus it appears that crime statistics for Mexico enjoy a sufficiently comparable level of accuracy and reliability as those produced for many advanced countries including the U.S. This is not to say that such statistics are perfect but they are sufficient for reliable comparitive analysis.

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  95. Flat Cat says:
    @AP

    One thing, Fred, and I know this cannot encompass all Latinas, but I see very, very few attractive Mexican women up here. Maybe it’s be cause of the region most of the come from is less mixed than others, but most are short, round, and a bit rugged looking.
     
    This is a common observation.

    Mexicans immigrants are mostly poor and uneducated, working class types. Are whites with the same socioeconomic status much thinner or more attractive? I suspect that if one controls for income, there won't be much of a difference. I doubt the people described are rounder or more rugged-looking than their white neighbors of similar education level.

    You’re probably right, though I didn’t intend for the comment to be a comparison of female Mexican immigrants to native white women. Low income folks from anywhere in the world probably suffer from similar lifestyles (little exercise or very rough work related exercise, poor diet, etc.) that cause physical attractiveness to fade quickly.

    I know girls who were very, very attractive in their late teens/early twenties who came from, for lack of a better label, white trash families who lived that lifestyle and are now absolute wrecks. Others who came from the same background, but didn’t live the hard and fast life, have generally aged much more gracefully. It is interesting that those women are often the ones who either kept up with their education, found good full time jobs during or right after high school, or married a man from a higher income bracket than the one they grew up in.

    Lifestyle and self respect are certainly important factors in living well past our youthful prime.

    Anyway, I’m not a racial purist. I wouldn’t mind to marry and have a family with a woman of a different race so long as I found her attractive and shared at least some commonality in culture and worldview. I believe that maintaining a strong culture of Christian values and individual liberty is far more important than keeping the skin tone of the general population uniform.

    That’s just me, though.

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  96. 1. So why dont you support the US using the same type of border policy that Mexico has for its southern neighbors? Is it too harsh? I hear those El Salvadorans aren’t thought of too highly there.

    2. Why the refusal to assimilate? Burning the flag doesn’t exactly point to assimilation.

    3. In the years to come most of the racial purity stuff will be put to bed. You won’t be able to tell anymore. You will however be able to tell if your hispanic neighbor has loyalty to you and where he currently lives rather then where he came from.

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  97. @Simplyamazed
    Although murder rates are high in Mexico at roughly 3 times the U.S. rate, overall violent crime is roughly the same in both countries. The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments). People als need to take account of the fact that many cities in the U.S. have murder rates equal to or greater than the overall rate for Mexico, but many of those cities are considered safe enough to live in and to visit (take Chicago and Orlando as examples). Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful. Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make. Mexico is a comparatively civilised country by most measures.

    People als need to take account of the fact that many cities in the U.S. have murder rates equal to or greater than the overall rate for Mexico, but many of those cities are considered safe enough to live in and to visit (take Chicago and Orlando as examples). Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful. Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make.

    Simply hilarious.

    Hey, lulzy race-denying ignoramus, what “race” do you think is responsible for all those murders in Chicago?

    I’d love to tell you take a hike, but on second thoughts, I hope you stick around – you may well learn something after your moral outrage subsides.

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  98. @anonymous

    I believe the relative difference in the rates of crime in Mexico and the U.S. as reported are useful for comparative purposes, when taken with a healthy grain of salt.
     
    Sorry, but I don't see how you could think these stats are in any way useful. You discussed how the FBI collects rape stats. But how are rape stats collected in Mexico? Do you tell la policia and hope they record it?

    There are huge cultural and institutional differences at play when it comes to making country to country comparisons of violent crimes such as rape. I certainly hope that women aren't making their safety judgments based on extremely flimsy cross-national statistics. As if a women walking around in a random city in Australia is 153 times (or Sweden, 338x; Belgium, 146x; Iceland, 137x; New Zealand, 130x) more likely to be raped than a women walking around in a random city in Mozambique. That is beyond gullible. Quality of institutions mean everything in these cases, as well as having a culture where it is not only relatively safe to report a rape (especially without having to fear for your life or safety, as well as potential social repercussions), but also highly encouraged to do so.

    As if a women walking around in a random city in Australia is 153 times (or Sweden, 338x; Belgium, 146x; Iceland, 137x; New Zealand, 130x) more likely to be raped than a women walking around in a random city in Mozambique.

    It’s so funny how clowns like Simplyamazed are willing to treat a statistical source as unimpeachable so long as it makes non-whites look good.

    It’s clear by now there’s no lie so gross they’re unwilling to tell it in order to beat the ‘racist.’ Of course, when the liars are white, the only people they’re ‘beating’ is themselves – which is sad.

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  99. EH says:

    Porter over at Kakistocracy blog’s latest post is about recent news reports of resorts in Mexico frequently drugging and robbing, sometimes raping American tourists, then sometimes handing them over to affiliated hospital extortion rackets to finish off their savings and credit. Having himself apparently been the victim of such an attack, Porter says it might just be because most of the alcohol dispensed at these resorts is untaxed and of unknown origin, but that doesn’t match the symptoms reported. The news story from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel goes in depth, with more evidence of resorts drugging tourists. The dead tourist body count seems to be quite high, in the dozens, at least.

    Porter says:

    It’s almost as if they don’t consider Americans to be just like them. And while all of these predictable predations are grim and shattering to those who have directly suffered from them, this post isn’t a warning about going to Mexico. It’s a warning about Mexico coming to here.

    Nearly all the victims in these grisly ordeals report a singular objective: to get the hell out of Mexico and come home. I wonder how many are sufficiently lucid to understand what they actually mean by that sentiment. Do they think the contours of home are determined by mere lines on a map? Or in moments of panic and desperation do they experience the prohibited epiphany that a home is made by its people? Those who can not grasp the correct answer now will eventually learn at the leisure of despair. In the meantime I’ll do my drinking this summer in an American pool…vertical for now.

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  100. Rurik says: • Website

    Permitting mass immigration, like importing slaves, was a bad idea, but it was done. The time to stop immigration is when it begins. When numbers reach a vague tipping point, it becomes irreversible.

    might as well lay back and enjoy it?

    http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/crimes-against-children/576/

    perhaps that’s what American citizens should teach our children now. There’s nothing we/you can do about it, so you may as well accept it and make the best of it. Don’t fight it, it’ll only make things worse.

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    I believe that's exactly what Fred wants. He will not rest until every American is just as sanguine about Mexicans as he is. Since, according to him, we can have no rational reasons for disliking Mexicans, we must have only bigoted reasons for doing so, which it is his moral duty to dispel.

    Evidently the idea that people might bristle at being forced to associate with others is lost on Fred. Even if Mexicans were no different from Whites by any statistical measure, the mere fact that they have been inflicted upon us without our will would still be enough to cause offense
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  101. @Simplyamazed
    I have read what is written in the link you provided as well as what you said about race being family and I am now understand why people might use race a lot, since the discussion makes it clear that "race". like "family" means whatever the speaker wants it to mean from time to time. Anyone who thinks family can mean the human "race", i.e. all humans alive on the face of the earth, while arguing that family loyalty, such as loving your mother, makes people love their "family", ie. identifiable relatives such as mother, father, aunt and uncle, and thus determines what "race" he or she belongs to, really knows how to obfuscate.

    In short, your explanation and reference convince me that the term "race" as used in this article is devoid of meaning and content.

    I’m not familiar with the reference, but I think a general truth is that the more homogeneous a bloodline or species becomes, the more opportunity for variation. Speaking of the human race is interesting only when comparing it to all other classifications. Within the human race, with indirect relation to its perceived homogeneity, folks are interested in carving out a small measure of uniqueness, to set themselves apart. In my experience many if not most progressives may speak eloquently of the virtues of the human race but are disgusted by the mass of humanity.

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  102. Thomm says:

    Good article.

    Don’t let the lefto-faggots divide decent people.

    Don’t let the White Trashionalists vilify decent Mexican-Americans…

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    If Mexico & Mexicans are so great then why do Mexicans flee Mexico?
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  103. @Rurik

    Permitting mass immigration, like importing slaves, was a bad idea, but it was done. The time to stop immigration is when it begins. When numbers reach a vague tipping point, it becomes irreversible.
     
    might as well lay back and enjoy it?

    http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/crimes-against-children/576/

    perhaps that's what American citizens should teach our children now. There's nothing we/you can do about it, so you may as well accept it and make the best of it. Don't fight it, it'll only make things worse.

    I believe that’s exactly what Fred wants. He will not rest until every American is just as sanguine about Mexicans as he is. Since, according to him, we can have no rational reasons for disliking Mexicans, we must have only bigoted reasons for doing so, which it is his moral duty to dispel.

    Evidently the idea that people might bristle at being forced to associate with others is lost on Fred. Even if Mexicans were no different from Whites by any statistical measure, the mere fact that they have been inflicted upon us without our will would still be enough to cause offense

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    Since, according to him, we can have no rational reasons for disliking Mexicans, we must have only bigoted reasons for doing so, which it is his moral duty to dispel.
     
    actually truth be told, I like Mexicans. At least most of the ones I've gotten to know. They generally have a good humor, are hard working, and friendly.

    But that doesn't mean I want them all here. They're somewhat different than people of European extraction, and I think we're both better off by keeping it that way. We should celebrate our differences, and be on friendly terms, but the Agenda is to blend 'evil whitey' out of existence- as the only real threat to the Zionists, and so you see Fred here advocating just that.

    Evidently the idea that people might bristle at being forced to associate with others is lost on Fred
     
    I know. Isn't that curious? And not just associate, but blend, like that movie The Fly, at the genetic, molecular level.

    Fred of all people telling whites that they need to blend away their whiteness for the good of all.

    no thanks Fred

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  104. @Corvinus
    "Since you seem so baffled by the concept of race and why people might be interested in it, I’ll point you to the link below. It may explain some things. Also, you could just go and ask the Jews, Japanese, Koreans, La Raza, etc. They would be able to fill you in on why they care. Another more direct way is to ask some kids from Mexican gangs, MS-13 or the Crips why race matters."

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    "Simply put, a race or ethnicity is an extended family with all of the quirks and similarities that families exhibit, and, unless you’re a sociopath, you tend to care more about your family than other families."

    No. Race is associated with biology; ethnicity is associated with culture. My "race" or my "ethnicity" is not my "family", they are people who are part of the race I am (white) or the heritage of my ancestors (Polish, German, Dutch).

    “Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.”

    Non-sequitur, and not relevant to anything. Akin to saying something “When the love of power is less than the power of love, there will be peace.”—Means nothing to the actual issue under discussion.

    Also, not all humanity shares the same DNA. (e.g. some races intermixed with Neanderthals, which helped to change some of the DNA structure in some races as opposed to those whose ancestors never mixed with Neanderthals).

    “Race is associated with biology; ethnicity is associated with culture.”

    As DNA is part of biology, which, if kept constant and not mixing with other races over eons, tends to be different from than other races, cultures, etc.

    Each nation has determined that it has the right of the governed to set immigration policy for their individual respective nations. If a nation wants to keep its own nation’s population stable for whatever the reason, including preserving its nation’s individual DNA, which has been kept on the whole, separate from other nations, then that is their right. They don’t need permission from other peoples outside their nation’s borders to implement their nations policy.

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    "Non-sequitur, and not relevant to anything. Akin to saying something “When the love of power is less than the power of love, there will be peace.”—Means nothing to the actual issue under discussion."

    Using your logic, "Anti-racism is just a code word for anti-White" is also a non-sequitur.

    "Also, not all humanity shares the same DNA."

    Interesting you say that.

    https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/41974/why-are-the-genomes-of-humans-99-5-the-same

    "Each nation has determined that it has the right of the governed to set immigration policy for their individual respective nations."

    Absolutely.

    "If a nation wants to keep its own nation’s population stable for whatever the reason, including **preserving its nation’s individual DNA**..."

    Since when is ** a national policy, one supported by the general population? Are you just making something up here?
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  105. Wtf, I love the US becoming Brazil now!

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  106. Wally says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's a lot of straw men for one column, Fred. However, this terribly insecure (that is your implication, correct) alt-righter happens to agree with your statement and, presumably, your position on the subject:

    Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”
     
    Now, on to the ususal Fred silliness when he writes about Mexico, the U.S. and the alt-right. It gets tedious to continually refute what Fred writes, but as we know from experience, it doesn't pay to let such things slide.

    First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It's beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don't under the statistical term "average." Please stop. It's embarassing, and you are so much better than that.

    Please try to remember that some of your readers have been to Spain and lived near barrios. We know what each group looks like. Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it's raining.

    The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation.

     

    Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing. However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people's children.

    I only want for my people what the Jews or the Japanese or the Koreans want for their people. Why do you attacks whites but not those peoples?

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years.

     

    I am quite certain that this is true. However, you seem to extrapolate your personal experience to the entire country. Indeed, one need only to click over to Sailer today to get a taste of what Mexico is like for those not fortunate enough to live in Fred's neighborhood.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/impunity/

    Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,
     
    Agreed this is silly, but denying these people jobs and government benefits likely would result in many going home on their own.

    The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted
     
    .

    True dat.

    Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

     

    There's also the little matter of average IQ. Mestizo IQ (no, Fred, not the South Americans with 90% European ancestry that you love to showcase, but your average native mix) is likely in the ball park of the low 90s. Better than blacks but significantly lower than whites. Perhaps we'll find that better nutrition and environment will push that number to the mid to upper 90s, but the academic achievements of second and third generation Latinos in the U.S. indicate that this is not the case.

    That IQ gap will be a difficult impediment to full assimilation. Latinos will notice that they are thin on the ground in higher professions.

    But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

     

    True, but not getting control of the border will certainly lead to friction. Also, not acknowledging inherent differences and pointing and sputtersing like a SJW anytime someone does won't improve relations either.

    Let’s get real here:

    Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while they demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

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  107. Wally says:
    @Thomm
    Good article.

    Don't let the lefto-faggots divide decent people.

    Don't let the White Trashionalists vilify decent Mexican-Americans...

    If Mexico & Mexicans are so great then why do Mexicans flee Mexico?

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    The same reason your ancestors left their original country. For a better life in a new world..

    Remember that for many Mexicans, they did not jump the border. The border jumped them : they were in California, Nevada, Arizona, etc. when those areas were parts of Mexico, and then became part of the US. So those people were here already.
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  108. Well Fred is probably right that the US now has a large mixed-race Latin American population which is never going to be deported. Many of these people will end up interbreeding with native whites (although many will also be stuck in their self-imposed Spanish-speaking ghettos for hundreds of years to come).

    But numbers are very important. Let’s say 20 to 30 million interbreed with native whites, and the culture shifts back to a more pro-white direction. That’s manageable, the IQ of the average American will be dragged down a couple of points but it won’t be disastrous. However, lets say America doesn’t build a wall and get tough on low-skilled immigrants. and the Hispanic population reaches 100 million, or 150 million. That is a big problem, that drags down the IQ of the average American towards the levels of middle income countries like Mexico and Venezuela, and that means all the social and economic dysfunction that goes with living in a middle income country rather than a first world country.

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  109. @anonymous

    I believe the relative difference in the rates of crime in Mexico and the U.S. as reported are useful for comparative purposes, when taken with a healthy grain of salt.
     
    Sorry, but I don't see how you could think these stats are in any way useful. You discussed how the FBI collects rape stats. But how are rape stats collected in Mexico? Do you tell la policia and hope they record it?

    There are huge cultural and institutional differences at play when it comes to making country to country comparisons of violent crimes such as rape. I certainly hope that women aren't making their safety judgments based on extremely flimsy cross-national statistics. As if a women walking around in a random city in Australia is 153 times (or Sweden, 338x; Belgium, 146x; Iceland, 137x; New Zealand, 130x) more likely to be raped than a women walking around in a random city in Mozambique. That is beyond gullible. Quality of institutions mean everything in these cases, as well as having a culture where it is not only relatively safe to report a rape (especially without having to fear for your life or safety, as well as potential social repercussions), but also highly encouraged to do so.

    Mexican crime statistics as reported by the police are considered to be generally inaccurate. In addition, a very high percentage of crime is not reported due to a high level of mistrust of police. To help to correct the reliability of crime statistics, alternative sources are used, following procedures similar to those used in the National Crime Victimization Survey in the U.S. A 2017 SPECIAL REPORT By Kimberly Heinle, Octavio Rodríguez Ferreira, and David A. Shirk Justice in Mexico Department of Political Science & International RelationsUniversity of San Diego talks about reliability of statistics in Mexico and how shortcomings are being overcome:

    “As noted earlier, homicide is one of the most frequently referenced measures of violence around the
    world. Compared with other violent crimes, like assault, robbery, rape, or kidnapping, homicide has
    a relatively high rate of reporting, in part because it is difficult to conceal. Even in Mexico, where
    there is a high degree of criminal impunity—with fewer than 25% of crimes reported, and just 2% of all crimes punished—homicides are more likely to be reported, investigated, and punished than
    other forms of violent crimes. Hence, homicide data provide an important measure of Mexico’s
    recent violence. ….. While all datasets have limitations, the most consistent, complete, and reliable source of information in Mexico is the autonomous government statistics agency, INEGI, which provides data on death by homicide and other forms of violent crime. It must be noted that INEGI’s homicide figures include both intentional and unintentional homicides, such as car accidents.”

    INEGI , the National Institute of Statistics and Geography, carries out a regular National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security that implements reporting standards developed by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. It covers all forms of violent crime including rape, kidnappings, assault and robbery.

    Thus it appears that crime statistics for Mexico enjoy a sufficiently comparable level of accuracy and reliability as those produced for many advanced countries including the U.S. This is not to say that such statistics are perfect but they are sufficient for reliable comparitive analysis.

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    INEGI , the National Institute of Statistics and Geography, carries out a regular National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security that implements reporting standards developed by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. It covers all forms of violent crime including rape, kidnappings, assault and robbery.
     
    From the site that you linked to:

    Violent crime > Rapes per million people:
    The number of recorded rapes. Large numbers of rapes go unreported. South Africa is estimated to have 500,000 rapes per year, Egypt 200,000, China 32,000 and the UK with 85,000 rapes per year. Figures expressed per million people for the same year.
     
    Also,

    Rape rate:
    Number of rape incidents per 100,000 citizens in different countries. Figures do not take into account rape incidents that go unreported to the police.
     
    If the rape statistics on site that you linked to are based off of the National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security results, then why does it purport to show the number of recorded rapes?

    Also, I can't seem to locate ENVIPE rape stats on their 2016 pdf.
    http://www.inegi.org.mx/saladeprensa/boletines/2016/especiales/especiales2016_09_04.pdf

    As I can't read very much Spanish, I'll hold off on making any kind of judgment of ENVIPE methodology for now, but I'll remain skeptical that it is equivalent to methodology used in Europe and other more developed regions.

    United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime
     
    According to UNODC, Tanzania (pop. 57 million) recorded a GRAND TOTAL of 3 rapes in all of 2013, with rape ("sexual violence") being defined as "any unwanted sexual attention without consent". Forgive me for doubting this. Many other countries have very hard to believe rape counts, as well.

    Nothing you've said demonstrates to me that the relative differences between countries on cross-national statistics of rape rates are reliable enough for a woman to take at face value.
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  110. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Regarding Latinos not as citizens but as internal enemies of America is an idea pushed not just by many racialist websites (e.g., Vdare).but also by Donald Trump. The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation. Hostility intensifies as one moves farther along the right wing to where the feathers end and giddy space begins.

    Sounds horrible.

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years. The streets are not strewn with garbage, it is not legal to screw little girls of twelve years, guns for home defense are not illegal, and Mexican school children behave like everybody else’s.

    Sounds great. You should inform the 57 million residing in the US to go back. Put a photo of a smiling Latino girl in a brochure for maximum effect.

    Look, it’s obvious you’re “talking your book” with these articles instead of being objective. If you really believed in the above, the best course of action is separation. Anyway, I could be wildly wrong as a European. Our “guests” are much dumber and much more hostile than Latinos. We will have to ship them back or face war in the near-medium future.

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  111. LauraMR says:
    @The Alarmist
    I dunno, Fred ... showing pictures of latina honeys doesn't necessarily help the medicine go down, but it doesn't hurt.

    Indeed.

    Besides, there is plenty of overlapping hatred going around.

    For instance, constantly attacking [half the population, that is, men] as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

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  112. @MarkinLA
    Argentina, Uruguay, and possibly Chile are more white than the US is and likely ever was. There isn't much of an Amerindian presence. The last indigenous people in Tierra Del Fuego died out a long time ago. They had generous immigration policies for Europeans before WWII. These are nice countries and first world.

    I live in one of the countries you named and have traveled widely in the other two: none is “first world”. Neither are they “whiter” than the US, save for certain districts. What’s true is that there is nothing approaching the racial animosity that exists up north and that racial intermarriage is far more common in these countries, which in some areas are indeed very pleasant places in which to live. One feature of the three you forgot: in none of them is there much of an Afro presence, a factor of no small importance.

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    I never saw any obviously Amerindian people at any time I was in Argentina and Chile (admittedly only about 6 weeks) but did go from Valparaiso in the north to Ushuaia in the south. The people were that were brown looked Spanish. Since it was a tour we only went to places the well off were so that may be it.

    In Bolivia you definitely saw Amerindians but by the time we got to Salta (another motorcycle tour) it looked almost like Spain.

    They had running water, electricity that stayed on all day, sewage systems, and decent roads. It seemed like first world to me. The only problem was the sewage system did not handle toilet paper - gotta fix that).
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  113. Trump regards Latinos as internal enemies of America?

    Fred you didn’t strike me as a hillary voter or card carrying dnc member until now. Have you begun watching CNN and MSNBC?

    I have heard Trump say that we need to control our borders. I agree. Mexico does that, right?
    I have heard Trump say that Mexico (and other nations) do not necessarily send their model citizens. I agree.

    But because of these things, Trump regards Latinos as internal enemies? Fred now you are making stuff up and waving your arms (ooops, I just ducked again, that left arm waved right above my head).

    Can anyone call for a stop to the third world invasion of the US without being called names? Do we have the right to limit, or even stop immigration, without taking on broadsides and potshots?

    I believe you are wrong in suggesting that the US can do nothing to stop immigration or deport illegals. We have 30 million illegals here (easily IMO) and we can begin deporting them en masse given the political will. Mexico would do that — why can’t we?

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  114. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's a lot of straw men for one column, Fred. However, this terribly insecure (that is your implication, correct) alt-righter happens to agree with your statement and, presumably, your position on the subject:

    Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”
     
    Now, on to the ususal Fred silliness when he writes about Mexico, the U.S. and the alt-right. It gets tedious to continually refute what Fred writes, but as we know from experience, it doesn't pay to let such things slide.

    First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It's beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don't under the statistical term "average." Please stop. It's embarassing, and you are so much better than that.

    Please try to remember that some of your readers have been to Spain and lived near barrios. We know what each group looks like. Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it's raining.

    The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation.

     

    Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing. However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people's children.

    I only want for my people what the Jews or the Japanese or the Koreans want for their people. Why do you attacks whites but not those peoples?

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years.

     

    I am quite certain that this is true. However, you seem to extrapolate your personal experience to the entire country. Indeed, one need only to click over to Sailer today to get a taste of what Mexico is like for those not fortunate enough to live in Fred's neighborhood.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/impunity/

    Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,
     
    Agreed this is silly, but denying these people jobs and government benefits likely would result in many going home on their own.

    The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted
     
    .

    True dat.

    Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

     

    There's also the little matter of average IQ. Mestizo IQ (no, Fred, not the South Americans with 90% European ancestry that you love to showcase, but your average native mix) is likely in the ball park of the low 90s. Better than blacks but significantly lower than whites. Perhaps we'll find that better nutrition and environment will push that number to the mid to upper 90s, but the academic achievements of second and third generation Latinos in the U.S. indicate that this is not the case.

    That IQ gap will be a difficult impediment to full assimilation. Latinos will notice that they are thin on the ground in higher professions.

    But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

     

    True, but not getting control of the border will certainly lead to friction. Also, not acknowledging inherent differences and pointing and sputtersing like a SJW anytime someone does won't improve relations either.

    Fred we need to take you to my physician’s office in N Va some time. The place swarms with women from Latin America — NONE of which look like the young lady in the photo. All of which have 2-3 children in tow (none of whom speak English BTW).

    You cannot believe the warmth this sends through my system knowing that the health care costs for all of them come out of my overtaxed and not wealthy carcass

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    We have several young children. Same experience that Buck has had, with our pediatrician's office in Los Angeles. Both the support staff and the patients are solid majority Mexican -- and they're typical Mexicans, unattractive in the extreme by our standards and usually even more morbidly obese than white Americans (which is saying something), not the unrepresentative fit, decent- and healthy-looking white-ish gal Fred wants us to believe is typical.

    On a typical visit, some of the parents and kids are speaking English, albeit usually not too well, but most of the time they're speaking Spanish.

    I share Buck's warm, fuzzy feeling knowing that my wife and I are working to provide medical care for our children and for a large percentage of the children we see in the waiting room with us. No way to tell whether some of the parents are illegal aliens, and the State of California increasingly goes out of its way to make it as easy as possible for people to enroll in "entitlement" programs and "get benefits" without ever presenting proof of US Citizenship or even legal permanent residency.
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  115. Bill says:
    @AP

    One thing, Fred, and I know this cannot encompass all Latinas, but I see very, very few attractive Mexican women up here. Maybe it’s be cause of the region most of the come from is less mixed than others, but most are short, round, and a bit rugged looking.
     
    This is a common observation.

    Mexicans immigrants are mostly poor and uneducated, working class types. Are whites with the same socioeconomic status much thinner or more attractive? I suspect that if one controls for income, there won't be much of a difference. I doubt the people described are rounder or more rugged-looking than their white neighbors of similar education level.

    Are whites with the same socioeconomic status much thinner or more attractive?

    You’re trying to claim that the socioeconomic status causes the ugliness?

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    Absolutely... Poor people get depressed because they live a generally unpleasant life. A common consequence of recurrent depression is taking little or no care of their bodies. Add the trash fast food they eat all the time. They get fat and sick, and they age quickly. And this happens to millions of Americans too, but it is a lot more apparent in the women. Don't you see a lot of fat white women around? Because I do.

    My point is that there is no point in singling out the Latinas as fatsos, when the locals are no better... It's a cultural problem, not a racial one. Courtesy of the elites, women don't know how to cook anymore, and so everybody relies on fast food as diet. The results are not pleasant to see, regardless of the skin colour.

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  116. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Father Coughlin
    Racial intermarriage needs to be only under the supervision of a qualified trad Catholic spiritual director. And only under exceptional circumstances. Like the conquistadores.

    Racial intermarriage needs to be only under the supervision of a qualified trad Catholic spiritual director. And only under exceptional circumstances. Like the conquistadores.

    WWFCT. What would Father Coughlin think.

    I had an interracial epiphany in a dream. I’m an tall, handsome American white male of NW European attraction. Up until the age of 25 I was only attracted to blond, Nordic-looking women. That’s all I ever dated and mated with. Never attracted to any other race. Not Asian and certainly not black (yuck). Then one night I had a dream I was in a Japanese (or Korean) garden with a NE Asian women just holding hands and looking into her eyes. That was it, nothing more. I woke up and since that day, now over two decades later, I’ve never been attracted to a white women again. Any white woman. Yet there are almost no NE Asian women whom I see that I’m not obsessively attracted to and think are the most beautiful creature I’ve ever seen. I found and married the most NE Asian-looking (epicanthic) woman I could find. Now I find myself fantasizing about her 70-year old aunts who can’t speak any English (i.e., even more NE Asian than my immigrant wife b/c they haven’t learned English).

    I’m sure Derb can relate.

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    Hey Bro, you should borrow some of Whiskey's game literature; I'm thinking you can make the Aunt thing happen!
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  117. Hubbub says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Can Fred Reed cite an example of a Latin American country which has achieved much of anything?

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter...or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.

    If these people are as talented as white people then why don't they achieve in their own countries?

    Deporting hispanics en masse is unlikely to happen under President Trump since he's a restorationist, mid-century American. And let us not forget that he's a baby boomer, much like Fred Trump, and apparently most baby boomers find it impossible to cuck.

    Central and Eastern European countries had no trouble deporting 13 million Germans in 1945. This was done in six months.

    You mean to tell me we can't do what Poland in 1945 did?

    Give be a break. As I usually state in these comments--why oh why Fred is it so hard for you to not advocate for another racial-cultural group simply because you're f@#$ing a member of one?

    I've enjoyed carnal relations with several of these oh-so-attractive latinas you're always talking about, but it doesn't change my politics.

    Let’s take a quick look at some numbers. Census figures show 57 million Latinos in the US,. Perhaps 12 millions of them being illegal. Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population

    Look, Fred, don’t you see? Whatever number is deported – 10,000 or 10,000,000 – is that many illegals that are not in the country, competing with Americans for jobs, education, homes, neighborhoods, etc. and, remember also

    “Mexicans are rapists” may not be true to you, but it is true to the many, yes, many, girls and women who have been raped and abused by illegals. Perspective, Fred, not rhetoric.

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  118. @Father Coughlin
    Oh gosh, that's the truth. A very good Catholic friend of mine did that. Ended up divorced with four kids because he "just grew incompatabile" with the Latina honey. I think in his case it was actually *intellectually* incompatible and in terms of *wanting things for his life* that he was incompatible ... not because her body corrupted so quickly. (However see George Bush for the latter scenario). Fooey on my friend for divorcing, bravo for GWB for not.

    It was JEB Bush. And THAT is the ugliest woman and combination of a man and woman I ever saw. She cost him the primary. When Trump started in on JEB, all we had to do was take one look at the wife and we knew Trump was right. For a man to marry a mud-fence looking troll like her told us all we needed to know about him. If he can’t get his own bedroom in shape, what would he leave this country looking like?

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  119. Corvinus says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Pro-race is code for anti-humanity."

    Non-sequitur, and not relevant to anything. Akin to saying something "When the love of power is less than the power of love, there will be peace."---Means nothing to the actual issue under discussion.

    Also, not all humanity shares the same DNA. (e.g. some races intermixed with Neanderthals, which helped to change some of the DNA structure in some races as opposed to those whose ancestors never mixed with Neanderthals).


    "Race is associated with biology; ethnicity is associated with culture."

    As DNA is part of biology, which, if kept constant and not mixing with other races over eons, tends to be different from than other races, cultures, etc.

    Each nation has determined that it has the right of the governed to set immigration policy for their individual respective nations. If a nation wants to keep its own nation's population stable for whatever the reason, including preserving its nation's individual DNA, which has been kept on the whole, separate from other nations, then that is their right. They don't need permission from other peoples outside their nation's borders to implement their nations policy.

    “Non-sequitur, and not relevant to anything. Akin to saying something “When the love of power is less than the power of love, there will be peace.”—Means nothing to the actual issue under discussion.”

    Using your logic, “Anti-racism is just a code word for anti-White” is also a non-sequitur.

    “Also, not all humanity shares the same DNA.”

    Interesting you say that.

    https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/41974/why-are-the-genomes-of-humans-99-5-the-same

    “Each nation has determined that it has the right of the governed to set immigration policy for their individual respective nations.”

    Absolutely.

    “If a nation wants to keep its own nation’s population stable for whatever the reason, including **preserving its nation’s individual DNA**…”

    Since when is ** a national policy, one supported by the general population? Are you just making something up here?

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    "Since when is ** a national policy, one supported by the general population?"

    If the policy is in place, after having been seriously debated and discussed in Congress and the Senate, and passed to become national policy, there is a consensus for that policy. Congressmen and Senators are directly elected by the citizens to pass legislation, policy, etc. Therefore there is a consensus for the government to enact policies that it determines are in the national interest.
    , @lavoisier
    Come on Corvinus.

    Make salient points and defend them logically.

    Pulling out the 99.5% genetic identity card is beneath even you and your often silly posts.

    We share 90% of our genes with mice. So we are basically like mice?
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  120. Logan says:

    “it is not legal to screw little girls of twelve years”

    Fred, in general I agree with you. But you might want to check your facts in some areas. In this regard the situation is legally complex, but it is a fact that the federal age of consent in Mexico is 12. And also in some states, though prosecution can occur for other factors. This is, of course, counterbalanced by the well-known corruption of the country, and it doesn’t seem particularly likely that an influential Mexican would be prosecuted if he had a thing for 12 year old girls. Unless the 12 year old in question was the child of similarly influential people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Mexico

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    In Cuba, ALL the girls have had sex by when they're 11 - 12 years old. A 13 year old who's still a virgin is looked at with suspicion (she's weird!, by local standards)... I don't know if this is legal there, as in by the law, but in practice, well, in Cuba it's common for men in their forties to have sex with 12 year old girls. And nobody raises an eyebrow.

    Just another cultural thing.
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  121. Logan says:

    “Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.”

    Would play a lot better if 225M American citizens were not so routinely attacked for a host of reasons, generally with those attacks going unchallenged as entirely reasonable, right and proper.

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    However, it is instructive to remember that the age of consent used to be much lower in USA.

    Until it started being raised in the late 19th century, it was generally 10 or 12 years, varying by state.

    It was 7 in Delaware!
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  122. Njguy73 says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Can Fred Reed cite an example of a Latin American country which has achieved much of anything?

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter...or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.

    If these people are as talented as white people then why don't they achieve in their own countries?

    Deporting hispanics en masse is unlikely to happen under President Trump since he's a restorationist, mid-century American. And let us not forget that he's a baby boomer, much like Fred Trump, and apparently most baby boomers find it impossible to cuck.

    Central and Eastern European countries had no trouble deporting 13 million Germans in 1945. This was done in six months.

    You mean to tell me we can't do what Poland in 1945 did?

    Give be a break. As I usually state in these comments--why oh why Fred is it so hard for you to not advocate for another racial-cultural group simply because you're f@#$ing a member of one?

    I've enjoyed carnal relations with several of these oh-so-attractive latinas you're always talking about, but it doesn't change my politics.

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter…or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.

    “Upon the independence of Argentina, the newborn country had a large territory but was thinly populated, and its ethnic composition was largely the same from the colonial era that had lasted from 16th to early 19th centuries. In the mid-19th century, a large wave of immigration started to arrive due to newly established Constitutional policies that encouraged immigration, and due to issues in the Old World such as wars, poverty, hunger, social unrest and pursuit for opportunities or a better life in the New World. This immigration was mostly from Europe but also from the Arab world, Russia and Japan….Thus, most Argentines are descendants of these 19th and 20th century immigrants, with about 97% of the population being of European or partial European descent. Arab descent is also significant (mostly of Syrian and Lebanese origin), and the Jewish population is the biggest in all Latin America (7th in the world).”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_of_Argentina

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  123. fnn says:

    http://www.chron.com/national/article/All-inclusive-5-star-resorts-in-Mexico-accused-11303913.php

    A shocking report by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel alleges that multiple all-inclusive resorts in Mexico may be serving tainted alcohol, leading to the death, or harm, of several guests.
    In interviews with dozens of travelers and their family members, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel uncovered vulnerable vacation goers may have been given tainted alcohol or possibly drugged, in order mug, sexually assault or extort them. The accounts of travelers were backed up by hospital, ambulance and hotel records.
    The alleged attacks took place in resorts near Cancun and Playa del Carmen.

    http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/07/20/all-inclusive-resorts-mexico-suspected-drugging-tourists/490429001/

    Sexual assault? One Wisconsin woman interviewed by the Journal Sentinel said she was assaulted while both she and her husband were unconscious — something supported by an exam done by her OB-GYN when she returned to Neenah. Her husband woke up with a broken hand — a “boxer’s break” that his doctor said likely resulted from hitting someone — but also no memory of what had happened.

    Extortion? In at least three cases, travelers reported that local hospitals, part of the Hospiten chain, appeared to be gouging them, demanding large sums of cash. One man was told to take a cab to an ATM. The vacationers suspected Iberostar might be in cahoots with the medical company. The resort contracts with Hospiten and refers sick and injured guests to Hospiten’s facilities. Abbey Conner’s family paid about $17,000 to a small medical clinic south of Playa del Carmen and within several hours paid tens of thousands more to a hospital in Cancun, north of the resort, where Abbey and her brother were transferred.

    Others can find no motive for their suspected drugging.

    Could it be what the attorney for the Conner family alluded to in his report: All-inclusive resorts using cheap, bootleg booze to cut costs?

    A 2015 report from Mexico’s Tax Administration Service found that 43% of all the alcohol consumed in the nationis illegal, produced under unregulated circumstances resulting in potentially dangerous concoctions.

    The national health authority in Mexico has seized more than 1.4 million gallons of adulterated alcohol since 2010 — not just from small local establishments, but from hotels and other entertainment areas, according to a 2017 report by the country’s Federal Commission for Protection against Health Risks.

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  124. Joe Hide says:

    Actually, this wasn’t a bad article. It had a lot of logic and reason. Fred missed one thing about most of us “Racists” though. We would like citizenship for law abiding illegal immigrants who have been here awhile, IF…. They go through the citizenship requirements for lethal immigrants, demonstrate their potential viability as productive and beneficial citizens, and first of all…. The flood of too many to assimilate present and future illegals be largely shut off. Another thing, you have to wonder about a guy that says he lives in Mexico, that says almost everything isn’t that bad there, while millions of Mexicans are trying to get out. I’ve traveled Mexico and things aren’t mostly okay there. And what’s with the stunningly beautiful very young Mexican woman’s picture as a lead-in? Still, mostly well written article.

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  125. we must drive the invaders from our soil and punish the traitorous collaborators

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  126. Sandmich says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's a lot of straw men for one column, Fred. However, this terribly insecure (that is your implication, correct) alt-righter happens to agree with your statement and, presumably, your position on the subject:

    Many would say, “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”
     
    Now, on to the ususal Fred silliness when he writes about Mexico, the U.S. and the alt-right. It gets tedious to continually refute what Fred writes, but as we know from experience, it doesn't pay to let such things slide.

    First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It's beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don't under the statistical term "average." Please stop. It's embarassing, and you are so much better than that.

    Please try to remember that some of your readers have been to Spain and lived near barrios. We know what each group looks like. Stop pissing on my head and telling me that it's raining.

    The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the Alt-Right, a substantial if loosely defined group who are horrified at the thought of racial amalgamation.

     

    Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing. However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people's children.

    I only want for my people what the Jews or the Japanese or the Koreans want for their people. Why do you attacks whites but not those peoples?

    It is perhaps worth noting that the accounts of Mexico in the anti-immigrationist literature bear little or no resemblance to the Mexico I have lived in for fifteen years.

     

    I am quite certain that this is true. However, you seem to extrapolate your personal experience to the entire country. Indeed, one need only to click over to Sailer today to get a taste of what Mexico is like for those not fortunate enough to live in Fred's neighborhood.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/impunity/

    Trump promised to get rid of the illegals in two years, which would require deporting 500,000 a month for 24 months. He is way behind. He could also deport 125,000 a month for eight years. Do you see anything resembling this? If he deports 10,000 a month for eight years, it will come to a bit under a million–less than two percent of the Latino population,
     
    Agreed this is silly, but denying these people jobs and government benefits likely would result in many going home on their own.

    The problem is home-grown and self-inflicted
     
    .

    True dat.

    Working against assimilation is that different cultures inevitably experience friction, that most of the immigrants are poor, poorly educated, young, and male, that assimilation works less well with populations large and dense enough be self-isolating, such as we see in black ghettos, and that the white-nationalists do all they can to cause antagonism.

     

    There's also the little matter of average IQ. Mestizo IQ (no, Fred, not the South Americans with 90% European ancestry that you love to showcase, but your average native mix) is likely in the ball park of the low 90s. Better than blacks but significantly lower than whites. Perhaps we'll find that better nutrition and environment will push that number to the mid to upper 90s, but the academic achievements of second and third generation Latinos in the U.S. indicate that this is not the case.

    That IQ gap will be a difficult impediment to full assimilation. Latinos will notice that they are thin on the ground in higher professions.

    But one thing I believe to be sure: Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility.

     

    True, but not getting control of the border will certainly lead to friction. Also, not acknowledging inherent differences and pointing and sputtersing like a SJW anytime someone does won't improve relations either.

    Thanks for that breakdown. Whenever I read something half-baked like this article I don’t even know where to begin with a breakdown since the author is so removed from actual reality. I just caught that news story where Mexican bar tenders at resorts are slipping Yankees mickies, nasty business that, great law and order from the land of Fred’s dream. If I had to choose between Hillary going to jail, or a drugging rapist at a local watering hole, I think I know which I’d choose.

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  127. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    Racial intermarriage needs to be only under the supervision of a qualified trad Catholic spiritual director. And only under exceptional circumstances. Like the conquistadores.
     
    WWFCT. What would Father Coughlin think.

    I had an interracial epiphany in a dream. I'm an tall, handsome American white male of NW European attraction. Up until the age of 25 I was only attracted to blond, Nordic-looking women. That's all I ever dated and mated with. Never attracted to any other race. Not Asian and certainly not black (yuck). Then one night I had a dream I was in a Japanese (or Korean) garden with a NE Asian women just holding hands and looking into her eyes. That was it, nothing more. I woke up and since that day, now over two decades later, I've never been attracted to a white women again. Any white woman. Yet there are almost no NE Asian women whom I see that I'm not obsessively attracted to and think are the most beautiful creature I've ever seen. I found and married the most NE Asian-looking (epicanthic) woman I could find. Now I find myself fantasizing about her 70-year old aunts who can't speak any English (i.e., even more NE Asian than my immigrant wife b/c they haven't learned English).

    I'm sure Derb can relate.

    Hey Bro, you should borrow some of Whiskey’s game literature; I’m thinking you can make the Aunt thing happen!

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  128. anon says: • Disclaimer

    It’s not about assimilation, hatred or whether they are good people or not. What right does Fred Reed have to dump millions of Mexicans on Americans. What right does some small group of people have to dump one or multiple races and religions on another group of people and make them pay for those people? “Well you just want slave labor”, really try not hiring the slave labor, hire whites instead, and see how long your business lasts. Try not hiring them or housing them, feeding, educating their kids and see what France is looking like. They dump them on someone else then those people are forced to care for them and according to Fred even marry them just because he did. See if Fred does it therefore its good and righteous for all white people whether they want to or not and their children.
    If that’s not enough your not allowed to say anything about anything concerning any of them or anything they do. They aren’t my people and they seem to only connect with being American when they want something more, other than that they all connect with their own people. But then considering Fred is not married to a white woman it is understandable that he could never say anything that goes against the leftist grain of multiculturalism and brown worship, to do so would be a family destroyer. Undoubtedly, his wife would probably take offense at his saying anything in defense of white Americans over her race :)

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  129. fnn says:

    US has 330 million people and doesn’t need any more. Especially given the Great Job-Destroying Robot Threat we are constantly hearing about. There should be a general immigration moratorium-with exceptions for those with very high IQ’s or exceptional talents. I also think we need to protect wild places from habitat destruction through overpopulation. The border wall is needed because without it the US-Mexican border will likely become a conduit for Sub-Saharan migrants in the future.

    The Afrikaners should be repatriated to their ancestral homelands in Europe. The Euro left will object, but US can get them to change their minds with enough moral and economic pressure and maybe even threats to withdraw from NATO. Actually it would be a good thing for US to pull out of NATO and make separate arrangements (like a multi-lateral non-aggression pact with Russia) for Poland and the Baltic States.

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  130. @Corvinus
    "Non-sequitur, and not relevant to anything. Akin to saying something “When the love of power is less than the power of love, there will be peace.”—Means nothing to the actual issue under discussion."

    Using your logic, "Anti-racism is just a code word for anti-White" is also a non-sequitur.

    "Also, not all humanity shares the same DNA."

    Interesting you say that.

    https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/41974/why-are-the-genomes-of-humans-99-5-the-same

    "Each nation has determined that it has the right of the governed to set immigration policy for their individual respective nations."

    Absolutely.

    "If a nation wants to keep its own nation’s population stable for whatever the reason, including **preserving its nation’s individual DNA**..."

    Since when is ** a national policy, one supported by the general population? Are you just making something up here?

    “Since when is ** a national policy, one supported by the general population?”

    If the policy is in place, after having been seriously debated and discussed in Congress and the Senate, and passed to become national policy, there is a consensus for that policy. Congressmen and Senators are directly elected by the citizens to pass legislation, policy, etc. Therefore there is a consensus for the government to enact policies that it determines are in the national interest.

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    It is a consensus among the governing elite. It is not a consensus of the governed.
    , @Corvinus
    Since when has a member of Congress stated specifically that "preserving [our] nation's individual DNA" ought to be a national policy?
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  131. Logan says:
    @Logan
    "Constantly attacking forty million American citizens as stupid, dirty, disease-ridden, criminal, given to rape and all the rest, will not make for domestic tranquility."

    Would play a lot better if 225M American citizens were not so routinely attacked for a host of reasons, generally with those attacks going unchallenged as entirely reasonable, right and proper.

    However, it is instructive to remember that the age of consent used to be much lower in USA.

    Until it started being raised in the late 19th century, it was generally 10 or 12 years, varying by state.

    It was 7 in Delaware!

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  132. 1legdrvn says:

    So much rubbish in the comments based it seems on the inbred idea of exceptionalizm. How about a different slant? When in the last 525 years have you who are occupiers not been at some form of war with Nations existing in this western hemisphere? Either economic or bullets or advisors to our enthroned dictators? Please name one country in this hemisphere we have supported to decide for themselves their own form of governing. Next name the ones we have said “Your country…..Your decision”. Shouldn’t take long, as both lists will be very short. I wonder how many of you “exceptional” people would get educated in a war zone. How many of you would have a full belly at night when the only possibility of anything to eat lies just a foot deeper in the garbage dump.
    Poverty, hunger, and despair are what this country and the european colonialist powers have given to the peoples of this hemisphere. All of it based on the three pillars of imperialism, Rape, Pillage and plunder.
    These people look at the US and our obese population and what do you think they see and think? Oh right, I’m sorry, I forgot that only you with your divine wisdom are capableof thinking. Feeling remorse or having compassion for your victims is out of the question since then you would have to recognize and admit your portion of guilt of the actions of this nation which is ” the light in the hill”, the beacon of virtue.
    We have and still are teaching these countries the true meaning of democracy, that being one person, one bullet.
    How about y’all do some concerted research. Try starting with General Smedly Butler.

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    Addressing your bs:

    1. "Inbred" - American whites have a rate of consanguinous marriage far lower than the world average and certainly much lower than chicanos and Mexicans
    2. "Nations" in the Western Hemisphere predating settlement by Europeans: self-evidently ridiculous.
    3. "Obese country" - sorry pal, your people drive America's obesity rate up. Mine don't. Mexico is more obese than the US, despite your insistence that our civilization brought you naught but poverty and hunger
    4. "Poverty hunger and despair... are what the European colonialist powers have given to this hemisphere" - self-evidently ridiculous
    , @Hairway To Steven
    Am I correct in assuming that you're engaged in parody? Especially the "three pillars of imperialism" part?
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  133. Jake says:

    “Working toward successful assimilation is that Mexicans are Christian, heavily European in their roots, live in amity with a million American expats in Mexico, and as a race are demonstrably able to run modern cities universities, and such. Unlike blacks and Muslims, they do not see whites and Christians as mortal enemies. Much depends on keeping things this way.”

    Yes, indeed. All things considered, I would prefer that the US have no more than half the Mexicans it has. But I also would prefer the US have no more than 5% 0f the Moslems we have and no more than 25% of the blacks.

    Of course, I also would prefer the US have no more than 20% of the white Quakers, Congregationalists, United Church of Christers, and non-Southern Episcopalians it has.

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  134. @turtle
    USsians (citizens of USA) are not the only xenophobes
    Por ejemplo:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Salvadoran

    >Because of their Ottoman passports, Middle Easterners in Central America were labeled as "Turks," and barred from civil society,

    >as recently as 2000, a conservative Salvadoran political commentator, Rafael Colindres, wrote an essay suggesting, "Perhaps a pogrom would be the solution to the Turk problem."

    To use “Xenophobic” is to immediately out oneself as a charlatan. No other term in modern political discourse is more loaded or less descriptive of the reality it attempts to portray.

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  135. anon says: • Disclaimer

    It’s a long and dangerous way to travel when their own people are so much closer.

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  136. @1legdrvn
    So much rubbish in the comments based it seems on the inbred idea of exceptionalizm. How about a different slant? When in the last 525 years have you who are occupiers not been at some form of war with Nations existing in this western hemisphere? Either economic or bullets or advisors to our enthroned dictators? Please name one country in this hemisphere we have supported to decide for themselves their own form of governing. Next name the ones we have said "Your country.....Your decision". Shouldn't take long, as both lists will be very short. I wonder how many of you "exceptional" people would get educated in a war zone. How many of you would have a full belly at night when the only possibility of anything to eat lies just a foot deeper in the garbage dump.
    Poverty, hunger, and despair are what this country and the european colonialist powers have given to the peoples of this hemisphere. All of it based on the three pillars of imperialism, Rape, Pillage and plunder.
    These people look at the US and our obese population and what do you think they see and think? Oh right, I'm sorry, I forgot that only you with your divine wisdom are capableof thinking. Feeling remorse or having compassion for your victims is out of the question since then you would have to recognize and admit your portion of guilt of the actions of this nation which is " the light in the hill", the beacon of virtue.
    We have and still are teaching these countries the true meaning of democracy, that being one person, one bullet.
    How about y'all do some concerted research. Try starting with General Smedly Butler.

    Addressing your bs:

    1. “Inbred” – American whites have a rate of consanguinous marriage far lower than the world average and certainly much lower than chicanos and Mexicans
    2. “Nations” in the Western Hemisphere predating settlement by Europeans: self-evidently ridiculous.
    3. “Obese country” – sorry pal, your people drive America’s obesity rate up. Mine don’t. Mexico is more obese than the US, despite your insistence that our civilization brought you naught but poverty and hunger
    4. “Poverty hunger and despair… are what the European colonialist powers have given to this hemisphere” – self-evidently ridiculous

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  137. Rurik says: • Website
    @Intelligent Dasein
    I believe that's exactly what Fred wants. He will not rest until every American is just as sanguine about Mexicans as he is. Since, according to him, we can have no rational reasons for disliking Mexicans, we must have only bigoted reasons for doing so, which it is his moral duty to dispel.

    Evidently the idea that people might bristle at being forced to associate with others is lost on Fred. Even if Mexicans were no different from Whites by any statistical measure, the mere fact that they have been inflicted upon us without our will would still be enough to cause offense

    Since, according to him, we can have no rational reasons for disliking Mexicans, we must have only bigoted reasons for doing so, which it is his moral duty to dispel.

    actually truth be told, I like Mexicans. At least most of the ones I’ve gotten to know. They generally have a good humor, are hard working, and friendly.

    But that doesn’t mean I want them all here. They’re somewhat different than people of European extraction, and I think we’re both better off by keeping it that way. We should celebrate our differences, and be on friendly terms, but the Agenda is to blend ‘evil whitey’ out of existence- as the only real threat to the Zionists, and so you see Fred here advocating just that.

    Evidently the idea that people might bristle at being forced to associate with others is lost on Fred

    I know. Isn’t that curious? And not just associate, but blend, like that movie The Fly, at the genetic, molecular level.

    Fred of all people telling whites that they need to blend away their whiteness for the good of all.

    no thanks Fred

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  138. If their first loyalty is to Mexico and not to the United States, they are not citizens no matter what their legal status may be. When they are overtly hostile to Anglo-America, when they talk openly about establishing a new Hispanic nation called Aztlan in the American southwest, then they are enemies.

    And I’d like to know why you assume so blithely that all forty million of them want to assimilate. A great many of them don’t, which makes them intruders instead of immigrants. And of those immigrants who do assimilate, their children and grandchildren often absimilate, i.e. they become overtly hostile to Anglo-American culture and become Hispanic supremacists. See here:

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/the-second-generation-problem

    Or is John Derbyshire too alt.right for you?

    I want Anglo-Americans to remain the dominant political, cultural and demographic majority in the United States. Do you consider this evil, Fred? If so, it isn’t nearly as evil as your indifference to the disempowerment and dispossession of your own people.

    Democrats want to build a power base among non-white immigrants, which is one of the reasons they engage in so much anti-white race-bating. Republicans want cheap labor. Neither party cares what impact this will have on the white middle and working classes. We are governed by a hostile political elite.

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    "I want Anglo-Americans..."

    Kid, you do realize that a majority of white Americans do not refer to themselves as "Anglo-Americans". Must they take on that moniker, or are they automatically designated as "bad whites"? Are not whites "their own people" capable of making racial decisions individually?

    Furthermore, if we are governed by a hostile political elite, what are you doing about it other than lamenting on a blog? What physical actions are you taking to curtail their nefarious activities?
    , @RadicalCenter
    "Anglo" Americans are NOT the majority of the USA's population and have not been for quite some time, if "Anglo" means a person who is a substantial part English/Scottish/Welsh or Irish genetically.
    , @RadicalCenter
    True. The elites don't care about the effect on the BLACK American working class, either.
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  139. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Since when is ** a national policy, one supported by the general population?"

    If the policy is in place, after having been seriously debated and discussed in Congress and the Senate, and passed to become national policy, there is a consensus for that policy. Congressmen and Senators are directly elected by the citizens to pass legislation, policy, etc. Therefore there is a consensus for the government to enact policies that it determines are in the national interest.

    It is a consensus among the governing elite. It is not a consensus of the governed.

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  140. Corvinus says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Since when is ** a national policy, one supported by the general population?"

    If the policy is in place, after having been seriously debated and discussed in Congress and the Senate, and passed to become national policy, there is a consensus for that policy. Congressmen and Senators are directly elected by the citizens to pass legislation, policy, etc. Therefore there is a consensus for the government to enact policies that it determines are in the national interest.

    Since when has a member of Congress stated specifically that “preserving [our] nation’s individual DNA” ought to be a national policy?

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  141. MEH 0910 says:
    @Jim Christian
    It was JEB Bush. And THAT is the ugliest woman and combination of a man and woman I ever saw. She cost him the primary. When Trump started in on JEB, all we had to do was take one look at the wife and we knew Trump was right. For a man to marry a mud-fence looking troll like her told us all we needed to know about him. If he can't get his own bedroom in shape, what would he leave this country looking like?

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  142. Corvinus says:
    @The Plutonium Kid
    If their first loyalty is to Mexico and not to the United States, they are not citizens no matter what their legal status may be. When they are overtly hostile to Anglo-America, when they talk openly about establishing a new Hispanic nation called Aztlan in the American southwest, then they are enemies.

    And I'd like to know why you assume so blithely that all forty million of them want to assimilate. A great many of them don't, which makes them intruders instead of immigrants. And of those immigrants who do assimilate, their children and grandchildren often absimilate, i.e. they become overtly hostile to Anglo-American culture and become Hispanic supremacists. See here:

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/the-second-generation-problem

    Or is John Derbyshire too alt.right for you?

    I want Anglo-Americans to remain the dominant political, cultural and demographic majority in the United States. Do you consider this evil, Fred? If so, it isn't nearly as evil as your indifference to the disempowerment and dispossession of your own people.

    Democrats want to build a power base among non-white immigrants, which is one of the reasons they engage in so much anti-white race-bating. Republicans want cheap labor. Neither party cares what impact this will have on the white middle and working classes. We are governed by a hostile political elite.

    “I want Anglo-Americans…”

    Kid, you do realize that a majority of white Americans do not refer to themselves as “Anglo-Americans”. Must they take on that moniker, or are they automatically designated as “bad whites”? Are not whites “their own people” capable of making racial decisions individually?

    Furthermore, if we are governed by a hostile political elite, what are you doing about it other than lamenting on a blog? What physical actions are you taking to curtail their nefarious activities?

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    1. Yeah, I'm really gonna take you seriously when you refer to me as "kid."

    2. Here's the URL for the Wikipedia article "Anglo-America":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-America

    And here's a definition from Dictionary.com:

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/anglo-american

    It's a legitimate term, not just some kind of meaningless jargon made up on the spot. You can't just sneer it away.

    3. I'm retired and spend much of my time on political activism, but I see nothing to be gained from discussing the details with a condescending adolescent mentality such as yours. Even if I were just another keyboard commando, it wouldn't eliminate the fact that the political and economic powers that be are clearly hostile to middle and working class whites. It's one of the reasons there's so much anti-white race-baiting around these days.
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  143. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Since you seem so baffled by the concept of race and why people might be interested in it, I'll point you to the link below. It may explain some things. Also, you could just go and ask the Jews, Japanese, Koreans, La Raza, etc. They would be able to fill you in on why they care. Another more direct way is to ask some kids from Mexican gangs, MS-13 or the Crips why race matters.

    Simply put, a race or ethnicity is an extended family with all of the quirks and similarities that families exhibit, and, unless you're a sociopath, you tend to care more about your family than other families. You also look out for family more than you look-out for non-family members. Finally, you want your family to continue into the future.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-race-faq.html

    “Unless you are a sociopath you care more about other people than their own”

    So “self hating Jews” (if they really exist) are sociopaths and Zionists are extremely altruists???

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    Yeah, pretty much.

    Are you arguing that people should care as much or more for random strangers than their own kin?

    Race is just an extended family (see Sailer FAQ), so it's quite odd to not care for their well-being above non-family.

    Regarding Zionists, while I hate that they seem bent on trying to destroy my people, I understand their motivation. They want to protect and expand a Jewish homeland and to protect Jews - their kin - worldwide. They feel that making white nations multi-racial will help protect Jews, since whites would no longer have the ability organize another Jewish holocaust.

    Personally, I think that they are cutting off their nose to spite their face because white nations have been a huge help to Israel and Jews. That being said, we are the only people who have tried - and actually had the ability - to take them out in a big way so I can see the over-reaction. But, again, I think that the .00001% of chance of gas chambers in Ohio isn't worth a heavily Muslim Europe and a Brazil-like U.S., but that's not my decision to make.

    Regardless, while it may create enemies, I understand people who show loyalty to their own people. The We-Are-The-World crowd is childish and delusional. Eventually, they'll either die out due to not having children or be dominated by groups that do show loyalty. Nature doesn't reward such silliness.
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  144. “Stop the influx and assimilate the ones we have.”

    I want studies into how many immigrants we need. once we know we will know what to do about immigration. assimilation is a must no matter what. have nothing to do with immigration numbers, big numbers just presents a huge challenge in the initial accommodation. they all must be assimilated.

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  145. Unlike blacks and Muslims, they do not see whites and Christians as mortal enemies. Much depends on keeping things this way.

    But we don’t see Mexers as bad people either. Most Mexers I’ve met were nice, and I would rather have a Mexer as neighbor than some ghastly Negro.

    The problem is TOO MANY. Also, if we indulge Mexers by offering Amnesty 2, there will be even MORE massive invasion. Granted, Hispanicization of US is preferable to Africanization. Better US become Big Mexico than Big Brazil. Still, it is time to say No Mas No Mas. There are too many Mexers and too many means more ethnic arrogance. Beaner grows meaner when he outnumbers gringo.

    Also, the problem is more disturbed because we treat the various races/groups differently.

    With most groups, our attitude and policy are conditional. However, with three particular groups — Jews, homos, and blacks — , it is unconditional.

    With most groups, it’s about conditional compromise. So, if this group acts in a certain way toward us, we feel a need to reciprocate. They treat us nice, so we feel a need to treat them nice. They act fair with us, so we need to act fair with them. Or, if they do wrong, they must come under the same scrutiny that we would come under if we did something wrong. And I think most Americans still have this healthy conditional attitude toward Mexicans. They still have the courage to be critical of Mexican behavior when Mexicans do wrong. That is a good thing.
    Ann Coulter and her ilk go too far, and I don’t care for it. I don’t hate Mexicans(who are okay people in Sam Peckinpah films), and most people I know don’t hate them. Most Americans are critical of Mexicans because illegal border crossing is NOT okay. It is not honorable, legal, or fair. And it is BS for Mexicans to bitch about ‘racism’ when Americans complain.
    Still, be thankful that we can still bitch about Mexican behavior. At least, our attitude with them is conditional. If Mexicans act nice, we will treat them nice. If they don’t act nice, we have no obligation to treat them nice. We have same attitude toward Japanese. It depends on how they act toward us.

    But there are some groups we must praise and protect unconditionally. They have the power of god over us. It’s like in the Bible. No matter what God does, He is always right and Jews must bow down before Him. Jewish relation to God is unconditional. No matter what He does, Jews must obey and revere Him.

    In secular neo-religious US, the three unconditional holy groups are Jews, homos, and Negroes. So, never mind what Jews do on Wall Street or with Global War. Never mind that so many of them are invested in white replacism with non-whites. Whites must praise Jews and protect Israel even if Jews insult and impugn whites relentlessly.
    And never mind what Homos do. They can spreads AIDS but they are blameless. Others must be blamed for homo HIV epidemic. Any criticism of homos and homo influence is ‘homophobic’, a term repeated a million times in the Jewish-controlled media. Jews are like god, and homos are like their angels.
    And there is the Negro. Even though Negroes commit most crimes, do most killing, and etc, the big slogan of the US is ‘black lives matter’. Even though most blacks are killed by other blacks and even though blacks cause most harm to other races, we must chant ‘black lives matter’ and pretend MLK is looking down on us and feeling sad cuz the racial gap still exists.

    With Jews, homos, and blacks, Americans are not in a state of conditional compromise but unconditional surrender or servitude. It’s like what US demanded on Japan in WWII. Unconditional surrender with US as godlike power over geisha Japan.
    Today, cucky whites are unconditionally bound to worshiping Jews, blacks, and homos. Whites are to praise and protect Jews, blacks, and homos NO MATTER what those three do to white straight gentiles.

    Such unconditionalism is terrible with those three. The last thing we need is to add Mexicans to the list as well.
    It’s good that our attitude toward Mexicans is still conditional. If Mexicans want good relations, they better stop breaking laws. They must be beaner than meaner.

    PS. Then, there are three peoples who must be unconditionally hated NO MATTER how accommodating they are. They are Russians, Iranians, and Pan-Europeans(or ‘white nationalists’). No matter how much Russia wants to be friends with the US, it must be seen as The Enemy because its national sovereignty poses a threat to globalist supremacism. So, never mind how nice Putin wants to be with the West. He is a ‘thug’ and Russkies are still Cold War enemies.
    And no matter how much Iran wants to compromise, it is an evil nation that wants nukes to blow up Israel and maybe the US too. LOL.
    And Pan-Europeans are just ‘nazis’ and ‘supremacist’ even though they are anti-imperialist, oppose new wars, and only want national security for native patriots. Take Hungarians. They don’t want to conquer any territory outside Hungary. They just want to defend and preserve Hungary. But that makes them ‘nazis’. Globalism says ethno-nationalists who defend own nation and Pan-Europeans who insist on worldwide common white identity & interests(like Jews and blacks have worldwide identity, like American Jews supporting Israeli Jews and American blacks supporting South African blacks) are evil no matter what they do. It’s as if whiteness is inherently evil and can only be ‘good’ when serving other groups, esp Jews, blacks, and homos.

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  146. Some few ways to try to solve this problem between US and Mexico. Firstly, US do what EU did with Greece, Spain, Portugal and Mezzogiorno: Improving their standard living, this really worked before recent crisis. Reducing fertility rates of this population.

    US/NAFTA.

    If USA want continue to be essential part of NAFTA… or US can do a “AMERICA-exit” just like Brexit. Remember that your country is fundamental member of economic group (NAFTA) and seems one of their goals is to reduce all barriers among their three countries.

    US invest even more in Mexico and combat their problems just like a NAFTA-brother with real knowledge of causes.

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  147. Z-man says:
    @David
    She looks 14. She'll be a fudge colored Michelin man in 6 years.

    Yes she does. She is very pretty but she might not be a ‘latina’. The ‘Michelin Man’ comment was viciously good & funny.

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  148. Joe Wong says:
    @bobbybobbob

    The time to stop immigration is when it begins. When numbers reach a vague tipping point, it becomes irreversible.
     
    What a lack of vision. Where's your can-do American spirit? Yes We Can!

    You surely prove Holocaust deniers are liars.

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  149. TG says:

    This is NOT about ‘racial purity.’ This is about cheap labor and overpopulation, and doing to the United States what has already been done to Mexico.

    Mexico’s population explosion has been deliberately created by the Mexican oligarchs, because all oligarchs like cheap labor. That created a lot of Mexican billionaires, but so much poverty that Mexico needs the safety valve of immigration to the US to avoid collapse.

    You say Mexico is fine? With official murder rates almost the highest in the world?

    Well answer me this. If Mexico is just like the United States, how come so many Mexicans dream only of leaving? Are Mexicans racists who hate living with Mexicans? Or do they just not like the poverty that comes from living in a country with 100 workers competing for every job? I would think the latter. And if Americans feel the same way, who really could blame them?

    Yes what’s done is done. Correct. But when you have dug yourself in a hole, surely the first thing is to STOP DIGGING.

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  150. doodahman says:

    Oh Fred! First off, it’s not just Anglos that don’t care much for 12 million undocumented Mexicans squatting in our communities. Ask a Puerto Rican or legal immigrant how they feel about Mexico Uber Alles.

    Trump is doing what must be done to get the illegals and their out of control advocates to be reasonable. If they were reasonable now, there wouldn’t be 12-20 million of them here AFTER Reagan’s amnesty; they wouldn’t be fighting to be sanctuary cities for criminals; they wouldn’t be attacking their fellow Americans as racists just for wanting a border and say in who immigrates, this being a Republic and all for crissakes.

    When they get reasonable, we can get reasonable. Until then, it’s a battle of wills. And there you go undermining our side’s will. Shame on you.

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    I used to work with a Nigerian who immigrated legally and eventually became a citizen. You wouldn't believe how furious he was with illegal aliens.
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  151. Regarding Latinos not as citizens but as internal enemies of America is an idea pushed …

    … by Latino politicians.

    “Proposition 187 was the last gasp of white America in California.”

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  152. @Corvinus
    "I want Anglo-Americans..."

    Kid, you do realize that a majority of white Americans do not refer to themselves as "Anglo-Americans". Must they take on that moniker, or are they automatically designated as "bad whites"? Are not whites "their own people" capable of making racial decisions individually?

    Furthermore, if we are governed by a hostile political elite, what are you doing about it other than lamenting on a blog? What physical actions are you taking to curtail their nefarious activities?

    1. Yeah, I’m really gonna take you seriously when you refer to me as “kid.”

    2. Here’s the URL for the Wikipedia article “Anglo-America”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-America

    And here’s a definition from Dictionary.com:

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/anglo-american

    It’s a legitimate term, not just some kind of meaningless jargon made up on the spot. You can’t just sneer it away.

    3. I’m retired and spend much of my time on political activism, but I see nothing to be gained from discussing the details with a condescending adolescent mentality such as yours. Even if I were just another keyboard commando, it wouldn’t eliminate the fact that the political and economic powers that be are clearly hostile to middle and working class whites. It’s one of the reasons there’s so much anti-white race-baiting around these days.

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    I'm well aware of the legitimacy of Anglo-American. I'm just stating how a good deal of white Americans do not refer themselves in that particular way.

    "I’m retired and spend much of my time on political activism, but I see nothing to be gained from discussing the details with a condescending adolescent mentality such as yours. "

    In other words, it's mere talk. Because every day the elites become more and more powerful while you and those "concerned" simply write blogs or make without following in the footsteps of our past patriots who spoke AND took action.
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  153. @doodahman
    Oh Fred! First off, it's not just Anglos that don't care much for 12 million undocumented Mexicans squatting in our communities. Ask a Puerto Rican or legal immigrant how they feel about Mexico Uber Alles.

    Trump is doing what must be done to get the illegals and their out of control advocates to be reasonable. If they were reasonable now, there wouldn't be 12-20 million of them here AFTER Reagan's amnesty; they wouldn't be fighting to be sanctuary cities for criminals; they wouldn't be attacking their fellow Americans as racists just for wanting a border and say in who immigrates, this being a Republic and all for crissakes.

    When they get reasonable, we can get reasonable. Until then, it's a battle of wills. And there you go undermining our side's will. Shame on you.

    I used to work with a Nigerian who immigrated legally and eventually became a citizen. You wouldn’t believe how furious he was with illegal aliens.

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  154. Jeff77450 says:

    Fred, anther great article that I largely agree with. I’m a sixth generation Texan, at least, and you’re correct: there are some drop-dead gorgeous Latino women. Let’s compromise and just send the men back. I’m kidding, Fred, I’m kidding. You’re correct again: most of the illegals aren’t leaving.

    I have to relate a true story: My wife’s ex-husband graduated from high school in 1982 and promptly went into commercial construction. He’s very intelligent and his parents tried to talk him into going to college. His response was that the money was so good why bother going to college? What he didn’t know was that at the same time that he was entering commercial construction so were the illegal aliens. At first he tried to help them because he saw how they were being taken advantage of. But within a few years he had done a one-eighty and had come to despise them because he saw how they were keeping wages down. My wife believes that his impaired ability to provide for his family greatly contributed to his substance-abuse problems which eventually lead to her leaving him.

    Said in all seriousness: Every American who encouraged/supported illegal immigration is a back-stabbing traitor who should be publicly shamed & shunned. Every American who has been adversely affected by illegal immigration, which is arguably all of us, but most especially the Kathryn Steinle’s of this world and their families, should be given a voucher that authorizes them to administer a beat-down (non-lethal & non-maiming) to one American who facilitated illegal immigration.

    Speaking as a retired E-8 who served in seven third-world dystopias, four of them Islamic visions of what can only be described as Hell on Earth, everyone who is in favor of “open borders” is seven different kinds of an idiot who *seriously* hasn’t thought this through–or–they hate America and the West and are trying to expedite their destruction. –Jeff York writing from Houston, Texas

    http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp

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  155. Joe Wong says:
    @David
    She looks 14. She'll be a fudge colored Michelin man in 6 years.

    It is a very cruel thing to say.

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  156. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Simplyamazed
    Mexican crime statistics as reported by the police are considered to be generally inaccurate. In addition, a very high percentage of crime is not reported due to a high level of mistrust of police. To help to correct the reliability of crime statistics, alternative sources are used, following procedures similar to those used in the National Crime Victimization Survey in the U.S. A 2017 SPECIAL REPORT By Kimberly Heinle, Octavio Rodríguez Ferreira, and David A. Shirk Justice in Mexico Department of Political Science & International RelationsUniversity of San Diego talks about reliability of statistics in Mexico and how shortcomings are being overcome:

    "As noted earlier, homicide is one of the most frequently referenced measures of violence around the
    world. Compared with other violent crimes, like assault, robbery, rape, or kidnapping, homicide has
    a relatively high rate of reporting, in part because it is difficult to conceal. Even in Mexico, where
    there is a high degree of criminal impunity—with fewer than 25% of crimes reported, and just 2% of all crimes punished—homicides are more likely to be reported, investigated, and punished than
    other forms of violent crimes. Hence, homicide data provide an important measure of Mexico’s
    recent violence. ..... While all datasets have limitations, the most consistent, complete, and reliable source of information in Mexico is the autonomous government statistics agency, INEGI, which provides data on death by homicide and other forms of violent crime. It must be noted that INEGI’s homicide figures include both intentional and unintentional homicides, such as car accidents."

    INEGI , the National Institute of Statistics and Geography, carries out a regular National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security that implements reporting standards developed by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. It covers all forms of violent crime including rape, kidnappings, assault and robbery.

    Thus it appears that crime statistics for Mexico enjoy a sufficiently comparable level of accuracy and reliability as those produced for many advanced countries including the U.S. This is not to say that such statistics are perfect but they are sufficient for reliable comparitive analysis.

    INEGI , the National Institute of Statistics and Geography, carries out a regular National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security that implements reporting standards developed by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. It covers all forms of violent crime including rape, kidnappings, assault and robbery.

    From the site that you linked to:

    Violent crime > Rapes per million people:
    The number of recorded rapes. Large numbers of rapes go unreported. South Africa is estimated to have 500,000 rapes per year, Egypt 200,000, China 32,000 and the UK with 85,000 rapes per year. Figures expressed per million people for the same year.

    Also,

    Rape rate:
    Number of rape incidents per 100,000 citizens in different countries. Figures do not take into account rape incidents that go unreported to the police.

    If the rape statistics on site that you linked to are based off of the National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security results, then why does it purport to show the number of recorded rapes?

    Also, I can’t seem to locate ENVIPE rape stats on their 2016 pdf.

    http://www.inegi.org.mx/saladeprensa/boletines/2016/especiales/especiales2016_09_04.pdf

    As I can’t read very much Spanish, I’ll hold off on making any kind of judgment of ENVIPE methodology for now, but I’ll remain skeptical that it is equivalent to methodology used in Europe and other more developed regions.

    United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime

    According to UNODC, Tanzania (pop. 57 million) recorded a GRAND TOTAL of 3 rapes in all of 2013, with rape (“sexual violence”) being defined as “any unwanted sexual attention without consent”. Forgive me for doubting this. Many other countries have very hard to believe rape counts, as well.

    Nothing you’ve said demonstrates to me that the relative differences between countries on cross-national statistics of rape rates are reliable enough for a woman to take at face value.

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    My attempts to explain the reliability of statistics generated about crime relate to Mexico, with U.S. statistics used as a comparative to illustrate what such rates mean. I have made no attempt to justify statistics for other countries, and would not try to compare reports for places such as Mozambique or Tanzania without doing a lot of work and study, which I have not bothered to do.

    I have conceded that statistics based on reports generated by police in most places are both unreliable and not very comparable. However, surveys such as Mexico's National Survey of Victimization and Perception of Crime (ENVIPE to use the spanish acronym) are much more reliable and comparable to similar studies in other jurisdictions. in particular because they implement standards and guidelines developed by UNODC.

    Unfortunately, the underlying data for the more recent ENVIPE reports are not available in english. Your unfamiliarity with spanish leaves you at a disadvantage I cannot remedy.

    All of that said, my central point is that crime statistics seem to show levels of crime in Mexico that are tolerable in general (normal in fact), although there are some parts of Mexico that are experiencing high and rising crime rates where caution is warranted. It is not hard to avoid those places and enjoy levels of safety comparable to levels of safety found in most places in the U.S. High crime locations in the U.S., such as Detroit, Baltimore and New Orleans. where levels of crime approach the high crime areas in Mexico, are not so dangerous that people avoid visiting them. This is true for Mexico as well. The high murder rate making its way into recent statistics about Mexico are heavily weighted by gang wars related to the drug cartels and are centered in specific areas (such as Acapulco and the areas along the Mexican border with the U.S).
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  157. @Talha

    Unlike blacks and Muslims, they do not see whites and Christians as mortal enemies.
     
    Keep the Mexicans, but we gotta deal with the Blacks and Muslims - got it!

    And...oh - crap for crap - will you look at that:
    " A report from Press-Enterprise called the Latino Muslims one of the fastest-growing ethnic groups in the nation. Statistics isn't tracked, but the report said there are an estimated 150,000 converts in the country."
    http://www.latinpost.com/articles/105363/20151230/number-latinos-converting-islam-growing.htm

    And most of them are chicas - orale homes!
    "About 90 percent of that are converts, and of those converts, most are women."
    https://www.vibe.com/2016/09/growing-number-latinas-convert-islam/

    Peace.

    estimated 150,000 converts in the country.

    That’s more than 10x the number of Moslems in all of Mexico, according to the Mexican Census which tracks such numbers.

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    Hey Owen,

    Well it was an estimate after all. Perhaps the situation is quite different in an open-market society like the US and Mexico where it's almost fully Catholic and conformist pressure would be stronger. Just some things to think about.

    Peace.
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  158. @KenH

    Treat them as internal enemies and they will likely become such–wouldn’t you?–with grievous results lasting for generations.
     
    Then mestizos living in America should quit acting like enemies and stop burning and stomping on the American flag and lashing out at white America every time their ridiculous demands, like mass amnesty and race based freebies, aren't met.

    The future? Many fear that Latinos won’t assimilate, the Alt-Right that they will.
     
    La Raza and other Latino activist organizations don't encourage assimilation. In fact, they encourage antagonism and discourage assimilation by their words and deeds. Neither does the Mexican government encourage assimilation. Roughly 70% of Latinos vote for the fire breathing, anti-white Democrats, so to date they aren't assimilating.

    It has nothing to do with the wishes of the alt-right.

    I have said that Mexico does not stop at its border, that wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico.
    Mexican Presidente Felipe Calderon in a 2007 NYT interview
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/03/world/americas/03mexico.html


    Unlike blacks and Muslims, they do not see whites and Christians as mortal enemies.
     
    Generally true. Race relations between whites and mestizos isn't as toxic as whites and blacks but conflict still exists and it gets deliberately under reported by the media so whites don't look askance at the new arrivals from South of the border. The fact that there's a surplus of bellicose and racially chauvinistic leaders in the Mexican-American community almost ensures expanded conflict between whites and Latinos in the future.

    The fact that there’s a surplus of bellicose and racially chauvinistic leaders in the Mexican-American community almost ensures expanded conflict between whites and Latinos in the future.

    The audience for such ‘leaders’ does not exist in the Mexican-American community. The funding and support for those leaders comes from white SJWs and their corporate and government contacts. They exist as a wedge for goodwhites against badwhites. Latinos mostly don’t know or care about them.

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    They exist as a wedge for goodwhites against badwhites.
     
    More precisely, they exist as a tool for the jews to break white voting power.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Why does this comment have an orange border? Can I stipulate a blue one or red according to mood, or maybe a decorator's turquoise?
    , @Corvinus
    "They exist as a wedge for goodwhites against badwhites."

    How would you define "good whites" and "bad whites"? What are the metrics involved? Furthermore, is it required for all whites to be on the same page racially? If yes, why? How does it reconcile with conservatives who tout freedom of association?

    As an aside, the audience for leaders comes from within the Mexican-American community, and not exclusively from white SJW's, corporatists, or the gummint.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican-American_political_organizations
    , @KenH

    The audience for such ‘leaders’ does not exist in the Mexican-American community.
     
    Are you honestly trying to claim that average Mexicans living in the U.S. reject racial identity politics and embrace racial tolerance and diversity? Regardless of (((who))) the funding comes from for radical leaders, Mexicans in general are very race conscious and nationalistic and they consistently support politicians who pay lip service to their racial demands whether it be in the form of a white leftist like Hillary Clinton or brown race chauvinists like Julian Castro and Luis Gutierrez.

    Most Mexicans aren't race neutralists and racial masochists like your average brainwashed white person.
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  159. @Corvinus
    "First, Fred, stop posting pictures of very European-looking, cute Hispanic women as representative of Mestizos. It’s beneath you. Yes, they do exist, just as black engineers exist, but to claim that both are the norm implies your don’t under the statistical term “average.”"

    So what is this "statistical average" regarding the beauty of the average Mestizo. What metrics are involved here?

    "Yes, I am horrified by the thought of my people perishing."

    Come again, who are "your people"?

    "However, wanting your people to survive does not require one to hate other peoples any more than wanting my children to succeed does not require me to hate other people’s children."

    Except you do hate people who are other than your own.

    "There’s also the little matter of average IQ."

    Which in the end is overrated. Which in the end is due to biological and environmental factors.

    For a supposedly smart people you just cant seem to learn from your mistakes. You had a perfect opportunity to start over again differently here in the US after the “holocaust” but you simply doubled down. So here you are desperately trying to head off the inevitable. What are the chances we will be so sloppy about the final solution this time? The process that will lead to the inevitable will reveal the whole last 150 years the way it ought to have been understood while it was happening. What ar the chance when people really see who did what that even Israel will be spared? Enjoy your little meme wars but you and I both know the yid is up.

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    "So here you are desperately trying to head off the inevitable."

    So are you going to be front and center, or in the background.

    "What are the chances we will be so sloppy about the final solution this time?"

    Who is this "we"?

    "What ar the chance when people really see who did what that even Israel will be spared?"

    You are dreaming.
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  160. Joe Wong says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    Very good refutation--can't really improve on it. Fred really should avoid writing on the subject of Mexico and Mexicans--his lack of emotional distance warps his judgment. One most other subjects, he's quite good. One factor that I think Fred overlooks is irrendist tendencies of Mexicans/Hispanics. If and when secession comes, it'll most likely be in the American Southwest/West, led by a charismatic Hispanic who'll pledge to cleanse the Republica del Norte of Negroes and Chinamen and to retain only enough whites to keep the standard of living from plunging.

    Perhaps you are still living in a world with a mindset belonging to the past and stalled in old days of colonialism. At the trajectory of current national strength growth, any government in China would stand by and let our bros and sis overseas to be cleansed it will fall like a rock and despised as trash. Bombing that state back into stone age as the humanitarian intervention will be the rally call to stop the crime against humanity against our bros and sis.

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  161. @Santoculto
    "Unless you are a sociopath you care more about other people than their own"

    So "self hating Jews" (if they really exist) are sociopaths and Zionists are extremely altruists???

    Yeah, pretty much.

    Are you arguing that people should care as much or more for random strangers than their own kin?

    Race is just an extended family (see Sailer FAQ), so it’s quite odd to not care for their well-being above non-family.

    Regarding Zionists, while I hate that they seem bent on trying to destroy my people, I understand their motivation. They want to protect and expand a Jewish homeland and to protect Jews – their kin – worldwide. They feel that making white nations multi-racial will help protect Jews, since whites would no longer have the ability organize another Jewish holocaust.

    Personally, I think that they are cutting off their nose to spite their face because white nations have been a huge help to Israel and Jews. That being said, we are the only people who have tried – and actually had the ability – to take them out in a big way so I can see the over-reaction. But, again, I think that the .00001% of chance of gas chambers in Ohio isn’t worth a heavily Muslim Europe and a Brazil-like U.S., but that’s not my decision to make.

    Regardless, while it may create enemies, I understand people who show loyalty to their own people. The We-Are-The-World crowd is childish and delusional. Eventually, they’ll either die out due to not having children or be dominated by groups that do show loyalty. Nature doesn’t reward such silliness.

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    Obviously it was a very histrionic question. We are comparing zombified/or not necessarily/ liberal white people with regular-to-conservative white/whatever people.

    Just a example, if my hypothetical son is a psychopath who harm/hurt even kill other people or beings so I will never stay on your side even he is my own son. I have the impression that MOST people think differently than me in this very fundamental moral question.

    Between a evil person of my own tribe who can harm my own people/family and a person of other tribe who are truly virtue no doubt I will prefer the late and I hope any reasonable people will have the same reasoning. It's doesn't mean so I want my tribe be totally eliminated from earth surface, only if all them were evil and this type of tribe seems nonexistent among human beings, a entire tribe of pure evil people.

    Your reasoning now seems quite distant or abstractized from concrete reality where real people/and beings are and will be in progressive frequency affected and in very dangerous ways, just like the case of en masse gangrape in Britain.

    There is a huge difference to wish their own tribe be safe, qt priori, a healthy feeling, and... manipulate to eliminate totally other tribe or group of people. When real danger become trivial among white families i thought your banalization of tribal sins will be quickly thought again.

    I live in the family where I have insufferable differences with or specially with my older brother. No doubt I prefer a person who fit better with me than with my older brother. I wonder if conservative/less mutational load families tend to be more similar one each other in temperament than families with more liberals.

    People who say this "we are the world" are those who think everyone born kind and the society corrupt more ones than others. In other words, they are not totally wrong to search for other kind people in other tribes, the problem is that they think everyone may be part of their team of power rangers. If they just accepted the natural existence of "evil' among humans I thought they may would start to be less hopeless in terms of real-achievements in this aspect even I know at least that every cult start from generalized stubbornness and often become stronger even in the very dangerous moments, when everything show they are not absolutely correct as they think.

    So i thought your major mistake here is confuse real tribalistic virtues with real sins. Love your tribe at priori is not wrong even in the end of day physical races tend to have in its interior psycho-physiological subraces just like the differences between nerds and athletes and often they have mutual and untreatable differences. But love your tribe at point to try to exterminate other tribes is no doubt a very wrong question and for reasonable people impossible to be reverenced.
    , @Corvinus
    "Race is just an extended family (see Sailer FAQ)..."

    No. Race is a biological and social construct.

    "Regarding Zionists, while I hate that they seem bent on trying to destroy my people, I understand their motivation."

    Your people are Americans, if you live in the United States.

    "They feel that making white nations multi-racial will help protect Jews, since whites would no longer have the ability organize another Jewish holocaust."

    People, including Jews, promote multi-racial and multi-ethnic societies.

    "But, again, I think that the .00001% of chance of gas chambers in Ohio isn’t worth a heavily Muslim Europe and a Brazil-like U.S., but that’s not my decision to make."

    In typical fashion, you are overreacting.

    "Regardless, while it may create enemies, I understand people who show loyalty to their own people."

    Again, our own people are Americans. Besides, white people, for the love of God, make their own racial decisions. Just because they choose differently does not mean they are "bad whites".

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  162. Talha says:
    @(((Owen)))

    estimated 150,000 converts in the country.
     
    That's more than 10x the number of Moslems in all of Mexico, according to the Mexican Census which tracks such numbers.

    Hey Owen,

    Well it was an estimate after all. Perhaps the situation is quite different in an open-market society like the US and Mexico where it’s almost fully Catholic and conformist pressure would be stronger. Just some things to think about.

    Peace.

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  163. Fred takes 1,200 words to say what he could have said in one sentence: “Too bad, whitey, we’ve got the numbers and there’s nothing you can do.”

    Mexico rules! Their excess population has made it to Welfare Heaven! Anchor babies now and forever, at no cost to the mexicana production line!

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  164. Joe Wong says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Can Fred Reed cite an example of a Latin American country which has achieved much of anything?

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter...or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.

    If these people are as talented as white people then why don't they achieve in their own countries?

    Deporting hispanics en masse is unlikely to happen under President Trump since he's a restorationist, mid-century American. And let us not forget that he's a baby boomer, much like Fred Trump, and apparently most baby boomers find it impossible to cuck.

    Central and Eastern European countries had no trouble deporting 13 million Germans in 1945. This was done in six months.

    You mean to tell me we can't do what Poland in 1945 did?

    Give be a break. As I usually state in these comments--why oh why Fred is it so hard for you to not advocate for another racial-cultural group simply because you're f@#$ing a member of one?

    I've enjoyed carnal relations with several of these oh-so-attractive latinas you're always talking about, but it doesn't change my politics.

    Where is Wally? He said getting rid of 6 million Jews in 7 years was a scientific impossibility, yet the Poles got rid of 13 millions of Germans just in 6 months, in addition Pole and other Central and Eastern Europeans were actively helpers in the Nazi’s purification job. It seems Wally wants to piss on everybody’s head and telling them that it’s raining.

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  165. neutral says:
    @(((Owen)))

    The fact that there’s a surplus of bellicose and racially chauvinistic leaders in the Mexican-American community almost ensures expanded conflict between whites and Latinos in the future.
     
    The audience for such 'leaders' does not exist in the Mexican-American community. The funding and support for those leaders comes from white SJWs and their corporate and government contacts. They exist as a wedge for goodwhites against badwhites. Latinos mostly don't know or care about them.

    They exist as a wedge for goodwhites against badwhites.

    More precisely, they exist as a tool for the jews to break white voting power.

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  166. fishfood4 says:

    The US has the right to control its borders without explanation. Some individuals and groups have decided on their own that there must be open borders everywhere. They never address the consequences (look at Europe). Open borders are great for keeping wages down and fulfilling the neoliberal globalist agenda.
    Does US have a responsibility to educate anyone who sneaks in, while millions of American youth citizens cannot afford it? I don’t think so.

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  167. MBlanc46 says:

    I live near some Mexican-majority Chicago suburbs. They do not appear, so far as one can tell from driving through them, assimilating. They are creating little Mexicos.

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    The very phrase "Mexican-majority CHICAGO suburb" is sickening. I lived in Chicago for several years as a young guy, and that would have been unthinkable -- and I'm not elderly, so it wasn't all that long ago in social-demographic terms.

    Sadly, the Mexicans have reached even beautiful, quiet, safe, civilized, friendly, heavily Dutch/German/Slavic Michigan in some meaningful numbers in recent years. For example, Grand Rapids MI is changing and mostly not for the better.
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  168. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yeah, pretty much.

    Are you arguing that people should care as much or more for random strangers than their own kin?

    Race is just an extended family (see Sailer FAQ), so it's quite odd to not care for their well-being above non-family.

    Regarding Zionists, while I hate that they seem bent on trying to destroy my people, I understand their motivation. They want to protect and expand a Jewish homeland and to protect Jews - their kin - worldwide. They feel that making white nations multi-racial will help protect Jews, since whites would no longer have the ability organize another Jewish holocaust.

    Personally, I think that they are cutting off their nose to spite their face because white nations have been a huge help to Israel and Jews. That being said, we are the only people who have tried - and actually had the ability - to take them out in a big way so I can see the over-reaction. But, again, I think that the .00001% of chance of gas chambers in Ohio isn't worth a heavily Muslim Europe and a Brazil-like U.S., but that's not my decision to make.

    Regardless, while it may create enemies, I understand people who show loyalty to their own people. The We-Are-The-World crowd is childish and delusional. Eventually, they'll either die out due to not having children or be dominated by groups that do show loyalty. Nature doesn't reward such silliness.

    Obviously it was a very histrionic question. We are comparing zombified/or not necessarily/ liberal white people with regular-to-conservative white/whatever people.

    Just a example, if my hypothetical son is a psychopath who harm/hurt even kill other people or beings so I will never stay on your side even he is my own son. I have the impression that MOST people think differently than me in this very fundamental moral question.

    Between a evil person of my own tribe who can harm my own people/family and a person of other tribe who are truly virtue no doubt I will prefer the late and I hope any reasonable people will have the same reasoning. It’s doesn’t mean so I want my tribe be totally eliminated from earth surface, only if all them were evil and this type of tribe seems nonexistent among human beings, a entire tribe of pure evil people.

    Your reasoning now seems quite distant or abstractized from concrete reality where real people/and beings are and will be in progressive frequency affected and in very dangerous ways, just like the case of en masse gangrape in Britain.

    There is a huge difference to wish their own tribe be safe, qt priori, a healthy feeling, and… manipulate to eliminate totally other tribe or group of people. When real danger become trivial among white families i thought your banalization of tribal sins will be quickly thought again.

    I live in the family where I have insufferable differences with or specially with my older brother. No doubt I prefer a person who fit better with me than with my older brother. I wonder if conservative/less mutational load families tend to be more similar one each other in temperament than families with more liberals.

    People who say this “we are the world” are those who think everyone born kind and the society corrupt more ones than others. In other words, they are not totally wrong to search for other kind people in other tribes, the problem is that they think everyone may be part of their team of power rangers. If they just accepted the natural existence of “evil’ among humans I thought they may would start to be less hopeless in terms of real-achievements in this aspect even I know at least that every cult start from generalized stubbornness and often become stronger even in the very dangerous moments, when everything show they are not absolutely correct as they think.

    So i thought your major mistake here is confuse real tribalistic virtues with real sins. Love your tribe at priori is not wrong even in the end of day physical races tend to have in its interior psycho-physiological subraces just like the differences between nerds and athletes and often they have mutual and untreatable differences. But love your tribe at point to try to exterminate other tribes is no doubt a very wrong question and for reasonable people impossible to be reverenced.

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    I suspect that we're closer in our thinking than you believe.

    Routing for your team doesn't mean condoning bad behavior of its members whether toward other members of your own tribe or members of other tribes. A functioning society - and, hell, just plain morals - requires that you stop such people.

    So, how do maintain order and decency, i.e. policing your tribe, without allowing other tribes to take advantage of your order and decency? Simple, separate countries where possible or separate communities for multi-racial countries.

    It's why peoples have been separating themselves since the dawn of time. I don't think that modern Americans have a clue just how bizarre our current environment is compared to history.

    As always, I use the Jews as a model. Push for a homeland while maintaining your community within larger communities. If a Jewish guy is running around beating up blacks, Jews would want that guy punished. But that doesn't stop Jews from also wanting to maintain their people and culture within that society.

    Now, you could argue that Jews are condoning bad behavior from Israelis toward Palestinians, but that's more a of war/territory situation. However, even there, the Israelis have rules of engagement, albeit relatively lax ones. But, hey, guerilla warfare is a nasty business.
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  169. Good for the Mexicans! I wonder if the girl in the picture gets free healthcare and a free education? Not if she is a citizen I guess ..good to stay illegal. When my parents came here they had to learn the language they couldn’t pick up the phone and hear “press 1 for Polish” Latinos don’t assimilate because they don’t have to! We have too many illegals running around from every where and we really don’t need them!

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  170. Joe Wong says:
    @restless94110
    Just when I had begun to think that Fred's meds had kicked in for good.....there he goes again (paraphrase of a statement by Ronald Reagan).

    Hey Fred. I live in Mexico. Today I read about the beheading of a woman because narcos.

    Hey Fred. I've listened to what Trump said, unlike you. You got confused, by words, my poor addled compatriot. You thought that Trump said something that he never said.

    And then you kind of took your misunderstanding and planted it somewhere and made it grow until it became an unrecognizable bramble-screed.

    I just couldn't get past all of the stupidity, Fred. None of it is true, and none of it is real.

    Here's something we know in Mexico, Fred. The pressure relief valve of the stupifying economic inequality here was the ability to go to gringolandia and work for 3 dollars an hour in the back of all of the restaurantes.

    When all those people get sent back to their country? Better run, Fred, better hide. Because it will be revolution time.

    Fred, why don't you talk about the war on drugs and how it is needlessly killing the people you live with, and how it is destroying the fabric of the society in which you are proud to live?

    Why are you talking this utter nonsense that is none of your business. You don't live in the US. Talk about where you are from, Fred. The problems.

    Make a difference, Fred. Talk against the insane war on drugs that Mexico is fighting solely because of United States pressure. Talk about the problems with corruptions and economic inequality that makes for a comfortable life style for you and yours.

    Trump is none of your business. Mexico is. Make Mexico your business, Fred.

    Mexico is impossible to win the war on drug just like China was impossible to get rid of Opium because of the interference of the British, American, Japanese, etc. USA is the British in Mexican war on drug, the arms and interference from USA put Mexico in a similar situation when China was trying to get rid of Opium. It took the collapse of a dynasty and 150 years of foreign occupation, dominance, wars, civil wars, suffering and hundred of million of lives and broken families to get rid of the Opium and its lingering harmful effects.

    The West developed Orientalism to blame the Chinese for the demise situation they were in on the moral high ground, just like you are blaming Mexican for the horrible situation they are in due to drug. Your attitude is no different from the general public in Britain, USA, Japan, etc. during the time China was infested by Opium.

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    It shames me as an American to admit it, but you're right. Mexico's problems with violent crime are largely due to America's bottomless appetite for drugs.
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  171. 1. All immigration should stop for a substantial time, say, 25 years.
    2. No refugees excepting only from those countries sharing a border with a state or territory.
    3. National Identification card. Make it a very strong piece of ID, with DNA, retina print, etc.
    4. English as the national language. Use Article 5 for a Convention. Takes 34 states to convene, 38 to pass an amendment. Thirty-two states already have English as the official.
    5. Fred is right that assimilation is woefully slow. IMHO that’s just human nature.

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  172. @Flat Cat
    Speaking of small towns in Tennessee...mine has a chicken factory. You know, where they manufacture chickens? Smells great. Half of northern Mexico works there. White folks manage it. Lot of immigrants, both legal and illegal have settled the area.

    And there are the usual problems. Many drive, often badly, and almost always without licenses or insurance in the case of the illegals. Some commit crimes. This does not differentiate them from their white and black neighbors.

    I honestly don't care. The Mexicans (catchall term for anyone from south of Texas) seem to be mostly employed, pregnant, or raising kids. They keep to themselves and are generally polite. Conflict outside of the political theatre that afflicts us every two to four years is pretty rare, probably because they come from a nominally Christian culture, much like my fellow native East Tennesseans.

    I'd be much more concerned if there were, say, hundreds of thousands of fighting age males from Africa or the Middle East being ported in and given free reign outside the law. It is wise to count your blessings, even if they don't seem like blessings at the time.

    One thing, Fred, and I know this cannot encompass all Latinas, but I see very, very few attractive Mexican women up here. Maybe it's be cause of the region most of the come from is less mixed than others, but most are short, round, and a bit rugged looking.

    A wave of beautiful young women of the sort pictured at the top of your article would be a welcome event indeed.

    “…short, round and a bit rugged looking..”

    Could be of more Mayan heritage. Around here there tend to be whole villages that seem to move in when a large labor pool is need. A Mexican friend pointed this out to me: “The Mayans didn’t disappear, they just moved over.” A local large car wash had a crew of maybe 40 ‘cousins’. Very striking people. Very short, unique coppery tone to their skin, hardly a word of Spanish among them. Hard workers. They all disappeared about the same time too. Hmm…

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  173. Corvinus says:
    @The Plutonium Kid
    1. Yeah, I'm really gonna take you seriously when you refer to me as "kid."

    2. Here's the URL for the Wikipedia article "Anglo-America":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-America

    And here's a definition from Dictionary.com:

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/anglo-american

    It's a legitimate term, not just some kind of meaningless jargon made up on the spot. You can't just sneer it away.

    3. I'm retired and spend much of my time on political activism, but I see nothing to be gained from discussing the details with a condescending adolescent mentality such as yours. Even if I were just another keyboard commando, it wouldn't eliminate the fact that the political and economic powers that be are clearly hostile to middle and working class whites. It's one of the reasons there's so much anti-white race-baiting around these days.

    I’m well aware of the legitimacy of Anglo-American. I’m just stating how a good deal of white Americans do not refer themselves in that particular way.

    “I’m retired and spend much of my time on political activism, but I see nothing to be gained from discussing the details with a condescending adolescent mentality such as yours. ”

    In other words, it’s mere talk. Because every day the elites become more and more powerful while you and those “concerned” simply write blogs or make without following in the footsteps of our past patriots who spoke AND took action.

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    I’m well aware of the legitimacy of Anglo-American. I’m just stating how a good deal of white Americans do not refer themselves in that particular way.
     
    I never said they did. What point could you possibly be trying to make by bringing this up?

    In other words, it’s mere talk. Because every day the elites become more and more powerful while you and those “concerned” simply write blogs or make without following in the footsteps of our past patriots who spoke AND took action.
     
    In other words, you're just another keyboard commando.
    , @RadicalCenter
    A big reason why many white Americans do not call ourselves "Anglo-Americans" is simply because tens of millions of white Americans have a small to nonexistent genetic contribution from England, Scotland, and Wales, or from Ireland. It's based on genetic reality in many cases, not just emotion or perception / emotional identity.
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  174. @anonymous

    INEGI , the National Institute of Statistics and Geography, carries out a regular National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security that implements reporting standards developed by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. It covers all forms of violent crime including rape, kidnappings, assault and robbery.
     
    From the site that you linked to:

    Violent crime > Rapes per million people:
    The number of recorded rapes. Large numbers of rapes go unreported. South Africa is estimated to have 500,000 rapes per year, Egypt 200,000, China 32,000 and the UK with 85,000 rapes per year. Figures expressed per million people for the same year.
     
    Also,

    Rape rate:
    Number of rape incidents per 100,000 citizens in different countries. Figures do not take into account rape incidents that go unreported to the police.
     
    If the rape statistics on site that you linked to are based off of the National Survey on Victimization and Perception of Public Security results, then why does it purport to show the number of recorded rapes?

    Also, I can't seem to locate ENVIPE rape stats on their 2016 pdf.
    http://www.inegi.org.mx/saladeprensa/boletines/2016/especiales/especiales2016_09_04.pdf

    As I can't read very much Spanish, I'll hold off on making any kind of judgment of ENVIPE methodology for now, but I'll remain skeptical that it is equivalent to methodology used in Europe and other more developed regions.

    United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime
     
    According to UNODC, Tanzania (pop. 57 million) recorded a GRAND TOTAL of 3 rapes in all of 2013, with rape ("sexual violence") being defined as "any unwanted sexual attention without consent". Forgive me for doubting this. Many other countries have very hard to believe rape counts, as well.

    Nothing you've said demonstrates to me that the relative differences between countries on cross-national statistics of rape rates are reliable enough for a woman to take at face value.

    My attempts to explain the reliability of statistics generated about crime relate to Mexico, with U.S. statistics used as a comparative to illustrate what such rates mean. I have made no attempt to justify statistics for other countries, and would not try to compare reports for places such as Mozambique or Tanzania without doing a lot of work and study, which I have not bothered to do.

    I have conceded that statistics based on reports generated by police in most places are both unreliable and not very comparable. However, surveys such as Mexico’s National Survey of Victimization and Perception of Crime (ENVIPE to use the spanish acronym) are much more reliable and comparable to similar studies in other jurisdictions. in particular because they implement standards and guidelines developed by UNODC.

    Unfortunately, the underlying data for the more recent ENVIPE reports are not available in english. Your unfamiliarity with spanish leaves you at a disadvantage I cannot remedy.

    All of that said, my central point is that crime statistics seem to show levels of crime in Mexico that are tolerable in general (normal in fact), although there are some parts of Mexico that are experiencing high and rising crime rates where caution is warranted. It is not hard to avoid those places and enjoy levels of safety comparable to levels of safety found in most places in the U.S. High crime locations in the U.S., such as Detroit, Baltimore and New Orleans. where levels of crime approach the high crime areas in Mexico, are not so dangerous that people avoid visiting them. This is true for Mexico as well. The high murder rate making its way into recent statistics about Mexico are heavily weighted by gang wars related to the drug cartels and are centered in specific areas (such as Acapulco and the areas along the Mexican border with the U.S).

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    Shame on him for his unfamiliarity with Spanish.
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  175. MBlanc46 says:

    If Mexico is so great, let the Mexicans stay there. And let those already here go home.

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    Why don't you go home! Why don't YOU go back to where ever it is you crossed the ocean from!
    Many of us didn't cross the border,
    THE BORDER CROSSED US!
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  176. There is a natural symbiotic relationship between the not afraid to work hard Mexican and the more management oriented Gringo. Both serve the needs of the other, and this is no new discovery to anyone in Texas for example. The gringos know this to be the case, and the Mexicans also know this to be the case. The problems with this long established equilibrium come when the number of Mexicans flooding in becomes excessive and when leftist politicians decide that some taxpayer cash disbursed to Mexicans along with persuasive talk convincing them to see themselves as victims (aka New Democrat Voters) begins to threaten the utility of the Mexican to the working class. The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.

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    The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.
     
    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    I assume the same is mostly true in Texas as well, though since I don't know that state as well I can't really be sure.
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  177. uslabor says:

    “Mexican girls are alarmingly attractive”

    Well so are we Mexican Men! Hide the white women!

    Never mind, I’ve already got one!

    Ole, Fred!

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  178. uslabor says:
    @MBlanc46
    If Mexico is so great, let the Mexicans stay there. And let those already here go home.

    Why don’t you go home! Why don’t YOU go back to where ever it is you crossed the ocean from!
    Many of us didn’t cross the border,
    THE BORDER CROSSED US!

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    Many of us didn’t cross the border, THE BORDER CROSSED US!
     
    Touché!

    Peace.
    , @Anon
    You're a Tejano? Or a Californio?

    Or did the border cross the Yucatan when I wasn't looking?
    , @silviosilver

    Many of us didn’t cross the border,
    THE BORDER CROSSED US!
     
    Oh rubbish. That was largely uninhabited wasteland at the time America took control of it. It was only after white people made something of it that lying mexer scum rushed to live in it.
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  179. TwoDogs says:

    As others have noted, one of Mother Nature’s cruelest jokes is the smoking hot under 20 Latina. Sooner or later, usually sooner, those anti-famine genes from the Indian side kick in and in the presence of abundant beans and tortillas grow butts you measure with a yardstick. Woe be to the young gringo who falls for the young one.

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    As if the white girl don't get fat.

    Just take a look around you, or are you a blind dog?
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  180. For those unaware the continental Latins are of far more utility than the island Latins to working people in the US. Many of the island Latins first taste of life in the US coincides with life in the Northeast or South Florida, which immediately colors their perspective of just how far whining and bellyaching can go to put a roof over ones head. For the continental latins, who largely get ahead in life through the sweat of their brow, it is not a natural fit to embrace bellyaching as a career strategy. Part of Barack Obamas legacy will be the inroads made to turn hardworking family oriented continental latins into first whiners and drama queens, then, if his group could pull it off, to make them new citizens of the US. The extreme measures taken by the left in the US have in many ways turned what was a long standing natural equilibrium among peoples into a more hostile situation. Trumps comments about Mexicans played into this theme. It may take some time for the dust to settle but if politicians in the US will stop their partisan attempts to use these people as pawns for political power, particularly attempts to reward great numbers of illegals with citizenship, the old equilibrium will return. This equilibrium is a natural order, it was not brought about via political decision, rather mutually beneficial arrangements between freely consenting adults.

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    'Island Latins' have a whole lot more black blood and culture than do 'continental Latins.'

    That tells almost the whole story.
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  181. “Regarding Latinos not as citizens but as internal enemies of America is an idea pushed not just by many racialist websites (e.g., Vdare).but also by Donald”

    How am I supposed to continue reading and/or take the author seriously when he gets the first line so damn awfully wrong? Me nor none of the Latinos I roll with have this view of what Donald Trump was saying when he talked about illegals….see what I did there that the author didn’t? I used the proper verbiage of what the issue is and didn’t “group” all Latinos into that group.

    Why is it that some seem to think that only brown people can be illegal…which is what the fuck Trump was/is talking about…illegals? Kinda weird when he mentions “racialist” website while being racialist.

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  182. L.K says:
    @MarkinLA
    Argentina, Uruguay, and possibly Chile are more white than the US is and likely ever was. There isn't much of an Amerindian presence. The last indigenous people in Tierra Del Fuego died out a long time ago. They had generous immigration policies for Europeans before WWII. These are nice countries and first world.

    I know all 3 countries;

    Argentina and Uruguay certainly do have white majorities, though if more(%) than the ZUSA, I could not say.
    Whites in these countries are predominantly of Spanish and Italian descent, there is also a large German diaspora in Argentina, etc. There is a significant mestizo minority in Argentina, plus mestizo and Amerindian immigrants from countries like Bolivia, etc.

    Chile, I don’t think has a white majority. Its population is mostly a blend of whites and mestizos.
    In total numbers, non Hispanic Brazil has the most whites in Latin America, more heavily concentrated in the Southern parts of the country.

    None of these countries are really “first world”, certainly not by US standards.
    Argentina used to be considered a developed country, til the 1940s/50s, but not anymore.

    Considering that a lot of European countries were quite poor until relatively recent times, and some still are not quite developed, none of this is too surprising.
    Take East Asia, for example, only 50 years ago, South Korea was quite poor.

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    Neither Argentina or Chile are majority white, the "white" populations in both of those countries have long had a significant amount of amerind ancestry, something like 15-20%. Saying all of the natives died out long ago is also inaccurate.

    But while they aren't developed countries, they're pretty close, they're upper level second world countries or what have you. They're distinct from the majority of latin american countries in terms of their demographics and economic history.

    I was pretty surprised to learn recently that Argentina has had worse issues with illegal immigration and unchecked mass immigration from other parts of the SA, worse than the US though, and has apparently been central in removing Argentina from first world status.
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  183. Talha says:
    @uslabor
    Why don't you go home! Why don't YOU go back to where ever it is you crossed the ocean from!
    Many of us didn't cross the border,
    THE BORDER CROSSED US!

    Many of us didn’t cross the border, THE BORDER CROSSED US!

    Touché!

    Peace.

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    peace, =)
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  184. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @uslabor
    Why don't you go home! Why don't YOU go back to where ever it is you crossed the ocean from!
    Many of us didn't cross the border,
    THE BORDER CROSSED US!

    You’re a Tejano? Or a Californio?

    Or did the border cross the Yucatan when I wasn’t looking?

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    Northern New Mexico when it was Spain, then Mexico; before it was USA.

    Ordale!
    , @RadicalCenter
    I think the Mexican/US border has crossed, oh, approximately VISALIA or FRESNO, and is still moving northward.
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  185. The old unwritten rule was this:

    If the continental Latin found his way into the US, he had to find a way to support himself and his family. If he did so successfully and quietly the unwritten rule was that his children, particularly those born here, were citizens and could attend public schools, etc. This proposition assurred men of some degree of noble character, as they took risks to come, lived the remainder of their lives under precarious legality, but did so with pride knowing their children would be better off for their sacrifice. The political left saw an opening with this longstanding people’s agreement and attempted to exploit it. I would argue the old way is better for assuring both the character of and propensity of the newcomer to assimilate and be an asset to their chosen country. Perhaps over a long my enough timeline that the children are taught right from wrong (and left).

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  186. I couldn’t get past 3 paragraphs of this….what ever the fuck it’s called. Not much in there is fact based IMHO.

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  187. mobi says:

    Isn’t Fred in Mexico?

    I wonder if he’s ever considered submitting a variation on this article to an English-language Mexican newspaper, arguing for opening up their Southern border to any and all Central Americans who might wish to come, seeking only a better life. (Yes, yes, I know the answer)

    I’d be interested to know how advice on immigration policies from the gringo interloper (and a legal one at that!) would go over with the locals. (Yes, yes, I know the answer).

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  188. mobi says:

    Fred’s a talented and entertaining writer, but his ‘Whiskey for Mexicans’ schtick is not him at his best.

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    Yeah, because you don't agree with him. He doesn't say the words you want to hear on this issue. His opinion is different than yours. He likes Mexicans and you don't. You are afraid of the change that is happening around you. "The racialist sites (you visit) often do not check facts, do not correct false claims when notified of them, and not infrequently simply lie".

    blah blah blah
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  189. Hrw-500 says:

    Speaking of VDare, I spotted a copy of an archived article from Allan Wall on Archive.is. http://archive.is/VIRda

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  190. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yeah, pretty much.

    Are you arguing that people should care as much or more for random strangers than their own kin?

    Race is just an extended family (see Sailer FAQ), so it's quite odd to not care for their well-being above non-family.

    Regarding Zionists, while I hate that they seem bent on trying to destroy my people, I understand their motivation. They want to protect and expand a Jewish homeland and to protect Jews - their kin - worldwide. They feel that making white nations multi-racial will help protect Jews, since whites would no longer have the ability organize another Jewish holocaust.

    Personally, I think that they are cutting off their nose to spite their face because white nations have been a huge help to Israel and Jews. That being said, we are the only people who have tried - and actually had the ability - to take them out in a big way so I can see the over-reaction. But, again, I think that the .00001% of chance of gas chambers in Ohio isn't worth a heavily Muslim Europe and a Brazil-like U.S., but that's not my decision to make.

    Regardless, while it may create enemies, I understand people who show loyalty to their own people. The We-Are-The-World crowd is childish and delusional. Eventually, they'll either die out due to not having children or be dominated by groups that do show loyalty. Nature doesn't reward such silliness.

    “Race is just an extended family (see Sailer FAQ)…”

    No. Race is a biological and social construct.

    “Regarding Zionists, while I hate that they seem bent on trying to destroy my people, I understand their motivation.”

    Your people are Americans, if you live in the United States.

    “They feel that making white nations multi-racial will help protect Jews, since whites would no longer have the ability organize another Jewish holocaust.”

    People, including Jews, promote multi-racial and multi-ethnic societies.

    “But, again, I think that the .00001% of chance of gas chambers in Ohio isn’t worth a heavily Muslim Europe and a Brazil-like U.S., but that’s not my decision to make.”

    In typical fashion, you are overreacting.

    “Regardless, while it may create enemies, I understand people who show loyalty to their own people.”

    Again, our own people are Americans. Besides, white people, for the love of God, make their own racial decisions. Just because they choose differently does not mean they are “bad whites”.

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  191. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “The time to stop immigration is when it begins.”

    Hello??? I remember some twenty-five years ago having a conversation with a colleague during which I suggested that the time had come to turn up the gangplank, that we’ve already got too many immigrants and that time and space would be needed for them to become acclimated to American society before even considering admitting any more. No one listened. The Wall? Too little, too late.

    Without question, America brought on its own problems due to a combination of greed and atrocious short-sightedness. The cat’s out of the bag, the horse’s out of the barn. Choose whatever metaphor you wish–the damage has been done.

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  192. L.K says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Can Fred Reed cite an example of a Latin American country which has achieved much of anything?

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter...or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.

    If these people are as talented as white people then why don't they achieve in their own countries?

    Deporting hispanics en masse is unlikely to happen under President Trump since he's a restorationist, mid-century American. And let us not forget that he's a baby boomer, much like Fred Trump, and apparently most baby boomers find it impossible to cuck.

    Central and Eastern European countries had no trouble deporting 13 million Germans in 1945. This was done in six months.

    You mean to tell me we can't do what Poland in 1945 did?

    Give be a break. As I usually state in these comments--why oh why Fred is it so hard for you to not advocate for another racial-cultural group simply because you're f@#$ing a member of one?

    I've enjoyed carnal relations with several of these oh-so-attractive latinas you're always talking about, but it doesn't change my politics.

    Hmm… you are actually comparing large scale and brutal ethnic cleansing of 14 million Germans from their ancestral homelands at the end of WW2, a process which caused the deaths of over a million, with the situation of illegal Hispanics in 2017, Zamerica… Wow, are you clever, boy…
    BTW, the ethnic cleansing lasted in some countries until the early 50s, and it was not just Poland but took place also in Czechoslovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia.

    Thorfinnsson: “Can Fred Reed cite an example of a Latin American country which has achieved much of anything?

    Argentina once built an indigenous jet fighter…or rather the temporary immigrant Kurt Tank (designer of the legendary Fw-190) did.”

    You mean something like this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_E-Jet_family

    First Flight KC-390

    You know the American M1 Abrams MBT? In the late 1980s the Brazilian made EE-T1 Osório beat it in trials. It also beat the French and the British:

    It(EE-T1 Osório) was evaluated against the French AMX 40, the American M1 Abrams, and the British Challenger 1 and emerged as the winner. The Osorio was quite cheap and affordable while having better results in the trials than the other three MBTs. In September 1989, Saudi Arabia quietly opted for the M1 Abrams instead…

    This was due to US political pressure.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EE-T1_Os%C3%B3rio

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  193. uslabor says:
    @Talha

    Many of us didn’t cross the border, THE BORDER CROSSED US!
     
    Touché!

    Peace.

    peace, =)

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  194. uslabor says:
    @Anon
    You're a Tejano? Or a Californio?

    Or did the border cross the Yucatan when I wasn't looking?

    Northern New Mexico when it was Spain, then Mexico; before it was USA.

    Ordale!

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  195. uslabor says:
    @TwoDogs
    As others have noted, one of Mother Nature's cruelest jokes is the smoking hot under 20 Latina. Sooner or later, usually sooner, those anti-famine genes from the Indian side kick in and in the presence of abundant beans and tortillas grow butts you measure with a yardstick. Woe be to the young gringo who falls for the young one.

    As if the white girl don’t get fat.

    Just take a look around you, or are you a blind dog?

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  196. uslabor says:
    @mobi
    Fred's a talented and entertaining writer, but his 'Whiskey for Mexicans' schtick is not him at his best.

    Yeah, because you don’t agree with him. He doesn’t say the words you want to hear on this issue. His opinion is different than yours. He likes Mexicans and you don’t. You are afraid of the change that is happening around you. “The racialist sites (you visit) often do not check facts, do not correct false claims when notified of them, and not infrequently simply lie”.

    blah blah blah

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    Yeah, because you don’t agree with him. He doesn’t say the words you want to hear on this issue. His opinion is different than yours. He likes Mexicans and you don’t. You are afraid of the change that is happening around you. “The racialist sites (you visit) often do not check facts, do not correct false claims when notified of them, and not infrequently simply lie”.

    blah blah blah
     
    I'm afraid of cancer, too.

    You argue like a Mexican (stupid, and emotional)
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  197. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Well said. Of course, it begs the question: What next?

    Probably more conflict between the Police, and Fred’s Mexican honey’s whom white men love so much.

    They’re strikingly beautiful, and they are everywhere.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sSm63JD-8PY

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  198. Ron Unz says:
    @Linda Green
    There is a natural symbiotic relationship between the not afraid to work hard Mexican and the more management oriented Gringo. Both serve the needs of the other, and this is no new discovery to anyone in Texas for example. The gringos know this to be the case, and the Mexicans also know this to be the case. The problems with this long established equilibrium come when the number of Mexicans flooding in becomes excessive and when leftist politicians decide that some taxpayer cash disbursed to Mexicans along with persuasive talk convincing them to see themselves as victims (aka New Democrat Voters) begins to threaten the utility of the Mexican to the working class. The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.

    The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.

    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    I assume the same is mostly true in Texas as well, though since I don’t know that state as well I can’t really be sure.

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    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.
     
    I would amend that to say Anglo's and Latino's get along perfectly well, until they don't. Under pressure, racial groups default to their tribes. Especially Mexicans. They can turn shitty quite quickly. The fact that a now significant number of Mexicans are turning to the Muslim religion is very bad news.

    Also, why travel to the east coast to highlight class disdain? If you're old enough to remember, Southern Californians HATED Arkies and Oakies back in the day, for good reason. A few moved into our adjoining neighborhood when I was a kid, and all were horrible without exceptions. Drunks, not married, welfare cases with 5 kids who burglarized homes in their spare time. Arkies were worse, and that's saying something.

    One other point, a lot of these Oakies never assimilated. They just died early of dead livers, got shot in the face, or died in prison. California didn't work out for them. A newer resident would never have known they were here. When they were here, everyone knew it. I wouldn't refer to them as a successful assimilation story. Californians did what they were legally allowed to eradicate them, and we still enjoy our success today.
    , @Thomm
    Ron Unz has done yeoman work in proving that the 2nd Gen Hispanic-American crime rate is barely higher than the white crime rate.

    That is why San Jose, Los Angeles, etc. now have crime rates that are at 60-year lows.

    The White Trashionalists who disagree are of far too low of an IQ level to understand graphs and charts. Ron Unz proved his conclusions with data contained in graphs and charts.

    , @silviosilver

    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.
     
    Ron, if you could wave your magic wand and reduce Latino numbers in California by, whatever, say, 50%, 75%, 90% - take your pick - would you do it? If not, what if somehow you "knew" you had nothing to fear from the dreaded Anglo (or WASP or Teuton or whatever name you want to give them), would that change your thinking?

    You don't even have to answer me. It would just be useful for you to know in your heart how you actually feel, because I think that, like so many other Jews of your generation, you've feared the Anglo so long and so hard you really can't think straight.
    , @Jake
    I think you are correct.

    The great glaring problem of most hardline immigration folks - such as the ardent WASPs at VDARE - is that they either are ignorant of the history of both WASP hatred of most other whites and of whites getting along reasonably well with all Hispanics that are not significantly black, or else they wish to hide those facts so they can blame Mexicans over and over.


    And, of course, the VDARE crowd always gets back to praising Know-Nothings for hating, and violently assaulting Irish Catholics. When they deny they harbor deep animus against non-WASP whites, just read on a couple of days, and it will come back up.
    , @KenH

    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California,
     
    Then why are whites fleeing the state? It also seems that racial resegregation, especially among whites, is the trend around Los Angeles which probably wouldn't be the case if race relations were so heavenly.

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-bader-resegregation-los-angeles-20160401-story.html
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  199. Thomm says:
    @Wally
    If Mexico & Mexicans are so great then why do Mexicans flee Mexico?

    The same reason your ancestors left their original country. For a better life in a new world..

    Remember that for many Mexicans, they did not jump the border. The border jumped them : they were in California, Nevada, Arizona, etc. when those areas were parts of Mexico, and then became part of the US. So those people were here already.

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    So most of Mexicans who live in Texas are descendents of old colonizers????
    , @The Plutonium Kid
    Actually, very few Mexicans were living in the areas ceded to the United States after the Mexican-American war. The area was mostly inhabited by American Indian tribes, none of which recognized or accepted the authority of the Spanish or Mexican governments and successfully resisted attempts attempts by both to assimilate them.
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  200. Pepe says:
    @Simplyamazed
    Although murder rates are high in Mexico at roughly 3 times the U.S. rate, overall violent crime is roughly the same in both countries. The rate for rape is twice as high in the U.S. as in Mexico (something that might make women think differently about these arguments). People als need to take account of the fact that many cities in the U.S. have murder rates equal to or greater than the overall rate for Mexico, but many of those cities are considered safe enough to live in and to visit (take Chicago and Orlando as examples). Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful. Cherry-picking statistics just undermines any point you are trying to make. Mexico is a comparatively civilised country by most measures.

    Many places in Mexico, such as Cancun, are quite peaceful.

    There are many peaceful places in Mexico, but lately Cancún is not one of them.

    Official reports have revealed that recent outbreaks of violence in one of Mexico’s main tourist areas could be due to clashes between an independent cartel and the Zetas, providing another example of the evolution of criminal dynamics in the country.

    The recent attacks in the state of Quintana Roo — home to popular tourist destinations like Cancún and Playa del Carmen — are reportedly the result of an attempt by the Zetas to retake control of lucrative drug distribution points in the area, according to federal intelligence reports obtained by El Universal.

    http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/violence-mexico-tourism-corridor-reflects-evolving-criminal-dynamics

    The shooting at a bar in Playa del Carmen early Monday brought to the forefront an issue that many have known about and feared for some time: drug trafficking and extortion are a part of the landscape.

    “There’s a lot of drugs, everywhere. They are blatantly sold in any bar; if you go to the restrooms you’re offered coke, pot, ecstasy,” one local resident told the news agency EFE.

    That period of time has been enough for Alberto to become aware of a notable increase in drug sales during events such as the BPM Festival, which concluded Monday morning with five fatalities and 15 people wounded.

    http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/drugs-and-extortion-in-playa-del-carmen/

    Drug war bloodshed in Mexico has spiked to record levels, with more homicides recorded in June than in any month in at least two decades.

    The 12,155 homicide cases opened from January to June make 2017 the deadliest first half of a year.

    Though violence used to be concentrated in a handful of states, it is now rising nationwide, with 27 of Mexico’s 32 states recording an uptick in homicides compared with last year.

    That includes states that are home to formerly tranquil tourist destinations including Cancun and Cabo San Lucas, which have each been the site of deadly shootouts.

    http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-murders-20170721-story.html

    And, from today:

    The man believed to have been the head of a Cancún cell of one of Mexico’s biggest drug cartels was ordered yesterday to stand trial after his capture on Saturday.

    Joshua Loyo Peña, known as “El Lobo,” is suspected to have directed the January attack on the state Attorney General’s office in Cancún in which four people, including a police officer, were killed.

    He is also believed to be the Jalisco New Generation Cartel’s chief in Quintana Roo and one of the chief generators of violence in the state, but operating principally in Cancún and its hotel zone, ordering executions and extortion and managing the drug trade.

    Loyo Peña is credited with at least 30 executions in recent years.

    He was found after several houses in Cancún were searched by federal security forces and arrested along with six other presumed cartel members.

    http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/cartel-cell-boss-captured-in-cancun/

    As I recently posted over at Steve Sailer, you gotta keep up with this stuff, folks….

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  201. vrai says:

    Practically unreadable diatribe. Using the picture of a beautiful Mexican girl who probably represents less than 0.0001% of the population is just desperate, we all know most of them are obese and covered in neck tattoos. In every state Mexican prison inmates far exceed their relative proportion of the population. Schools that are majority latino are all drug and gang infested maternity wards.

    In a 2009 survey on Latino achievement, the NYT reported that 4th generation latinos are on par with blacks on incarceration rate and teen pregnancy rate, and trail blacks on college graduation rate. For most immigrant groups, typically the 2nd generation is the highest achieving. Latinos do not follow this trend, the 2nd generation achieve lower than the first, and the 3rd and subsequent achieve even lower than the 2nd.

    If Mexicans are such great people, why is Mexico so messed up? Same question can be asked of the Chinese, Indians, Africans, Southeast Asians, Muslims, Latin America, all of the 3rd world…if their culture is so great, why are their countries so messed up? Their countries are messed up because their cultures are messed up, because they are cultures that do not encourage law abidingness, honesty, good manners, punctuality, cleanliness etc. The larger the immigrant group, the longer it takes to assimilate them. Dumb liberals are now the ones making sure that no group assimilates by trumping up group identity politics, encouraging each group to cling to their language and cultures as they immigrate to the US en masse, which is just suicidal, they are trying to turn the US into a microcosm of the world, completely ungovernable.

    This article is completely off the mark. I’ve lost all respect for Fred Reed.

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  202. @Thomm
    The same reason your ancestors left their original country. For a better life in a new world..

    Remember that for many Mexicans, they did not jump the border. The border jumped them : they were in California, Nevada, Arizona, etc. when those areas were parts of Mexico, and then became part of the US. So those people were here already.

    So most of Mexicans who live in Texas are descendents of old colonizers????

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    Not today, no. But there were many pre-1970 who were.

    There are nonetheless many Mexican-Americans who have been here for 160 years without having moved (i.e. the border jumped THEM), and thus are just as American as any Anglo-American.

    A lot of the idiots who claim that Anglo-Americans are the only Americans don't seem to know that America started out as just 13 states.
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  203. Beauty is relative Freddy!!!

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  204. @Corvinus
    I'm well aware of the legitimacy of Anglo-American. I'm just stating how a good deal of white Americans do not refer themselves in that particular way.

    "I’m retired and spend much of my time on political activism, but I see nothing to be gained from discussing the details with a condescending adolescent mentality such as yours. "

    In other words, it's mere talk. Because every day the elites become more and more powerful while you and those "concerned" simply write blogs or make without following in the footsteps of our past patriots who spoke AND took action.

    I’m well aware of the legitimacy of Anglo-American. I’m just stating how a good deal of white Americans do not refer themselves in that particular way.

    I never said they did. What point could you possibly be trying to make by bringing this up?

    In other words, it’s mere talk. Because every day the elites become more and more powerful while you and those “concerned” simply write blogs or make without following in the footsteps of our past patriots who spoke AND took action.

    In other words, you’re just another keyboard commando.

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    "What point could you possibly be trying to make by bringing this up?"

    When you use the term "Anglo Americans", you come across just like the elitists you supposedly disdain.

    "In other words, you’re just another keyboard commando."

    I'm not the one harping on how elitists are running roughshod over the world and few people are doing anything about it.
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  205. Art says:

    Regarding Latinos not as citizens but as internal enemies of America is an idea pushed not just by many racialist websites (e.g., Vdare).but also by Donald Trump. The outlook is particularly characteristic of something called the

    This is rich — it is the left who are pumping Latino division – we are threaten by political Latinos daily – they say that as a group, they are going to out-vote us – they say they are going to change America into Latin America.

    Gee – can we object without being called racist?

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Mexico is a nation – NOT a race.

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  206. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Ron Unz

    The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.
     
    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    I assume the same is mostly true in Texas as well, though since I don't know that state as well I can't really be sure.

    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    I would amend that to say Anglo’s and Latino’s get along perfectly well, until they don’t. Under pressure, racial groups default to their tribes. Especially Mexicans. They can turn shitty quite quickly. The fact that a now significant number of Mexicans are turning to the Muslim religion is very bad news.

    Also, why travel to the east coast to highlight class disdain? If you’re old enough to remember, Southern Californians HATED Arkies and Oakies back in the day, for good reason. A few moved into our adjoining neighborhood when I was a kid, and all were horrible without exceptions. Drunks, not married, welfare cases with 5 kids who burglarized homes in their spare time. Arkies were worse, and that’s saying something.

    One other point, a lot of these Oakies never assimilated. They just died early of dead livers, got shot in the face, or died in prison. California didn’t work out for them. A newer resident would never have known they were here. When they were here, everyone knew it. I wouldn’t refer to them as a successful assimilation story. Californians did what they were legally allowed to eradicate them, and we still enjoy our success today.

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    And by eradicating them, California lost its tradition of country music, which wound up even influencing non-Okies like Ricky Nelson, John Fogerty, and Jerry Garcia, who adapted the musical styles of their Okie neighbors growing up. The disappearance of the Okie and Arkie from coastal California may have impoverished California rock and roll, and eventually killed it.

    In any case, they were just replaced by Mexicans, who, as it was, they often coexisted with.
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  207. Thomm says:
    @Santoculto
    So most of Mexicans who live in Texas are descendents of old colonizers????

    Not today, no. But there were many pre-1970 who were.

    There are nonetheless many Mexican-Americans who have been here for 160 years without having moved (i.e. the border jumped THEM), and thus are just as American as any Anglo-American.

    A lot of the idiots who claim that Anglo-Americans are the only Americans don’t seem to know that America started out as just 13 states.

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    Perhaps you could name a few examples of people who claim Anglo-Americans are the only Americans?
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  208. Thomm says:
    @Ron Unz

    The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.
     
    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    I assume the same is mostly true in Texas as well, though since I don't know that state as well I can't really be sure.

    Ron Unz has done yeoman work in proving that the 2nd Gen Hispanic-American crime rate is barely higher than the white crime rate.

    That is why San Jose, Los Angeles, etc. now have crime rates that are at 60-year lows.

    The White Trashionalists who disagree are of far too low of an IQ level to understand graphs and charts. Ron Unz proved his conclusions with data contained in graphs and charts.

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    Remember that Latinos are not a compact larger group so maybe we will expect slight-to-significant outcomes not only among different nationalities but also within this nationalities namely in bigger countries as Mexico, obviously those who have immigrated to UZ.
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  209. @Thomm
    The same reason your ancestors left their original country. For a better life in a new world..

    Remember that for many Mexicans, they did not jump the border. The border jumped them : they were in California, Nevada, Arizona, etc. when those areas were parts of Mexico, and then became part of the US. So those people were here already.

    Actually, very few Mexicans were living in the areas ceded to the United States after the Mexican-American war. The area was mostly inhabited by American Indian tribes, none of which recognized or accepted the authority of the Spanish or Mexican governments and successfully resisted attempts attempts by both to assimilate them.

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    My understanding is that in 1870, the SouthWest was still 75% Mexican-American.
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  210. @Joe Wong
    Mexico is impossible to win the war on drug just like China was impossible to get rid of Opium because of the interference of the British, American, Japanese, etc. USA is the British in Mexican war on drug, the arms and interference from USA put Mexico in a similar situation when China was trying to get rid of Opium. It took the collapse of a dynasty and 150 years of foreign occupation, dominance, wars, civil wars, suffering and hundred of million of lives and broken families to get rid of the Opium and its lingering harmful effects.

    The West developed Orientalism to blame the Chinese for the demise situation they were in on the moral high ground, just like you are blaming Mexican for the horrible situation they are in due to drug. Your attitude is no different from the general public in Britain, USA, Japan, etc. during the time China was infested by Opium.

    It shames me as an American to admit it, but you’re right. Mexico’s problems with violent crime are largely due to America’s bottomless appetite for drugs.

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    Why do people always repeat this nonsense? It sounds good, I suppose, to a certain class of liberals looking to white knight on behalf of the little brown people in Juarez. I don't think beheading 20 people and then hanging their decapitated corpses from a highway overpass can really be blamed on some poor schmuck in Ohio who shoots up. No, this is Mexico simply being Mexico.

    In any case, the U.S. uses less cocaine per capita than the UK and Spain, and less than half of opiates per capita than the UK. And did you know the Mexican cartels also service Europe? They do. And did you further know that British banks like HSBC have been caught laundering their money? They have.

    Blaming Mexican drug violence on the U.S. is really the last refuge of simpletons.
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  211. @Thomm
    Not today, no. But there were many pre-1970 who were.

    There are nonetheless many Mexican-Americans who have been here for 160 years without having moved (i.e. the border jumped THEM), and thus are just as American as any Anglo-American.

    A lot of the idiots who claim that Anglo-Americans are the only Americans don't seem to know that America started out as just 13 states.

    Perhaps you could name a few examples of people who claim Anglo-Americans are the only Americans?

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  212. Fred is a disgusting, subhuman, traitor piece of trash who should be exterminated.

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  213. @Thomm
    Ron Unz has done yeoman work in proving that the 2nd Gen Hispanic-American crime rate is barely higher than the white crime rate.

    That is why San Jose, Los Angeles, etc. now have crime rates that are at 60-year lows.

    The White Trashionalists who disagree are of far too low of an IQ level to understand graphs and charts. Ron Unz proved his conclusions with data contained in graphs and charts.

    Remember that Latinos are not a compact larger group so maybe we will expect slight-to-significant outcomes not only among different nationalities but also within this nationalities namely in bigger countries as Mexico, obviously those who have immigrated to UZ.

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  214. And Fred, her hair is not straight.

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    And Fred, she is also a child: maybe 14, 15?
    And Fred, why would you post a pic of a Mexican child - instead of an adult Mexican woman - to promote this article?
    A little creepy, No?
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  215. Thomm says:
    @The Plutonium Kid
    Actually, very few Mexicans were living in the areas ceded to the United States after the Mexican-American war. The area was mostly inhabited by American Indian tribes, none of which recognized or accepted the authority of the Spanish or Mexican governments and successfully resisted attempts attempts by both to assimilate them.

    My understanding is that in 1870, the SouthWest was still 75% Mexican-American.

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    My understanding is that in 1870, the SouthWest was still 75% Mexican-American.
     
    I don't have the figures at hand, but I very much doubt that's correct...

    At the time of the Mexican-American War, I think there were only something like 7,000 Spanish-speaking people in all of California and maybe 15,000 in Texas, plus maybe a few thousand in the remaining territories seized, which were basically uninhabited desert (except for wild Indian tribes). The sole exception was New Mexico, where I think the Mexican population was around 50-60,000.

    With the Gold Rush, huge numbers of Americans arrived in CA, quickly swamping and absorbing the few Mexicans. I'd assume something similar happened in all the other states, except for New Mexico, which failed to attract settlers and remained roughly 40-60% Hispanic down to the present day.
    , @silviosilver
    Mexico's claim to what became the American southwest carries as much moral weight as Argentina's claim to Antarctica.

    Or to use another example, it's like if China beats Russia and takes over some of Siberia, it's not nearly the same loss to Russia as losing territory near Moscow.

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  216. @Priss Factor
    Bashing Hispanics, like bashing Muslims, is a release-valve for the Cucky Right.

    The real challenges to the White Race are Jews, blacks, and White Self-Righteous Supremacists addicted to meth-highs of feeling (a**)holier-than-thou with their pious prog-selytizing. Also, when it comes to degeneration and degradation of culture and values, homos are very destructive.

    But Jews, Negroes, and Homos are shielded by the taboos around 'antisemitism', 'racism', and 'homophobia', so most on the Right dare not say anything about them. Even Trump frames his anti-Muslim 'ban' on protecting holy homos from Muslim terrorism. Also, we are to believe that Americans need to be protected from Mexican crime when, in fact, black crime is much worse. To be sure, there is a fair amount of illegal alien crime, but that's mostly regional, and nevertheless, nothing compared to black thuggery.
    And when it comes to immigration policy, Jews had a huge role in it, of course with the aid of white Self-Righteous Supremacists in places like Minnesota and Maine who decided to ship in tons of Somalis so they can show off their 'diversity' too. (They prefer Africans over black Americans on the notion that Africans haven't yet been corrupted by American history. Progs see black Africans as blank-slate Negroes who can be led along the righteous progo-path. LOL) But Conservatism Inc. dare not mention the Jews. And even 'Alt Lite' won't really go there. Alt Right has the courage to mention Jewish Power, but there are too many elements who troll with dumb 14/88 symbolism which makes a mockery of seriousness. As such, they undermine their own credibility and integrity.

    Conservatives are also mostly mum about the white cucky self-righteous supremacists since many of them are Christian and supposedly do it out of the 'goodness' of the heart. Look at David French and his black 'son'. And going by Ross Douthat's idea that black Africans will make the best Christians in future Europe, it appears the main theme on the Right is still "We are no longer 'racist' cuz we trust blacks to bring about the renaissance in Christianity." Based on the Current Narrative, whites are too stained with sin to be proud Christians. Whites committed too many historical crimes and became too rich and decadent. So, white Christians can only pray for forgiveness and feel sorry and seek atonement. They just be judged by God, not preach the word of God. In contrast, blacks and Africans supposedly possess nobility because they done suffer for so long. They be the holy wretched of the earth. Unlike whites, they have moral authority and gravitas. (Never mind black Africans have been a bunch of savages chucking spears at hippos and each other and waging wars and enslaving countless others. It goes to show that history is still very Eurocentric when it comes to 'guilt'.) So, if white Christians lack the pride and prestige necessary to uphold the faith with authority, blacks have the requisite qualities for spiritual rejuvenation. We see this play out in America. If a white preacher denounces immorality, everyone laughs at him or mocks him as a phony or hypocrite. But when a Negro preacher done say the same thing, even white libby-dibs will listen up at least halfway. The Negro is seen as nobler and wiser for his experience of suffering. Also, the Negro has the louder voice that go boom-ish. Since white Christian Conservatives feel guilt than pride, they hope that Negroes taking charge of Christianity(and all of Europe) will lead to Afro-Christo-European Renaissance. Yeah, dream on. Ross Douthat, aka Chunkhead, is a real moron.

    Anyway, all systems need a safety-valve. People are frustrated and angered by so many problems. So, they need some kind of release for their anger. Usually, the target of such ire is those with the Power or those causing the most problems. Naturally, Jews, blacks, and homos should be the main targets of white anger. Why? Jews got the most power and abuse it for wars and to push immigration-invasion. Blacks commit the most crime. And homos do most to gunk up culture with filth and depravity. Of course, Jews don't want be the target. Jews want to protect their power and avoid criticism. And Jews need alliance with blacks cuz blacks are profitable in vice industries and also cuz black narrative is useful for 'white guilt' to paralyze whites. Also, Jews see homos as main proxy as Queertianity is the new global religion.

    So, what should be done about all the anger and rage that build up among Americans? Jews direct black ire against white gentiles even though much of tougher policing and incarceration were pushed by Democratic Party controlled by Jews in order to revive cities. Jews direct white Democratic ire against OTHER whites, the 'deplorables'. So, even though many white Democrats are really being hurt by globalism, black crime, and excessive diversity, they've been led to believe it's all the white 'racist' conservative fault. So, whenever white Democratic libby-dibs see something wrong in society, their kneejerk reaction is to blame the KKK or 'nazis'. (What a bunch of dummies.)
    And brown frustration is re-directed at gringo. Indeed, even as white Americans are admonished show compassion toward immigrants and 'dreamers', browns are encouraged to hate gringo and violently attack Trump supporters. And white women are made to hate white men with ever newer mutations of demented feminism. (White whores are made to worry about 'rape culture' by white males when blacks are main rapists.) And white conservative anger is directed mostly at Muslims, Russians(make whitey hate whitey), China, and illegals. The globalist elites are protective of immigrants, BUT they would still rather have white conservatives hate immigrant-invaders than the very elites who've rigged the system for more invasion. If white conservatives denounce Mexicans and if Mexicans denounce gringo, the elites can play 'yojimbo' and play off both sides.

    Some people will argue that WE ARE ALL AMERICANS, and therefore politicians shouldn't talk of us-versus-them, but it's too late now. By promoting identity politics, the globalists have actually encouraged division and favoritism in American politics. After all, Hillary Clinton blatantly appealed to black votes, homo votes, and Jewish votes. Even when cops were killed in Dallas, she was playing up black demagoguery. And in calling for open borders, she was favoring non-whites against whites as most immigrants are non-white and encouraged to be anti-white once they come to America.

    This is why Fred Fred Cabbage Head gets it wrong. He fails to recognize that GOP's attempt to win over Hispanics has failed time and time again. Even if Jeb Bush were president, the overwhelming number of Hispanics would go with Democrats. And McCain was one of the most cucky pro-Mexican politicians, but vast majority of Mexers still went with Obama.
    Hispanics favor Democrats for two reasons. Even if GOP has been mostly pro-open-borders, the Democrats are even more so. Whatever GOP offers, the Dems will offer more. If GOP were to go along with amnesty, Dems will say 'give illegals the vote'.
    Another reason Mexers prefer Democrats is because GOP stands for assimilation and generic-Americanism. In contrast, Democrats encourage non-white identity and pride. So, non-whites prefer to maintain pride of identity as Democrats than become generic 'white bread' Americans like David French and chunkhead Douthat of the GOP side.

    Now, if white people had great prestige and pride in America(as in the past), Mexers might consider it a honor to become like an 'American'. But over the yrs, PC had devalued the worth of whiteness even to the point where even some white ethnic groups don't want to count as 'white'.
    Also, because whiteness has been tagged with 'racism' and etc, the only acceptable whiteness is the most bland, wussy, genetic, and cucky kind. And this makes whiteness despised even more. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't when it comes to whiteness.

    If a white guy expresses pride, honor, and courage in being white, he is denounced by media as 'racist', 'nazi', 'atavistic', and 'supremacist'. But if a white guy acts like Rich Lowry and smiles cucky-wucky and talks like Pee Wee Herman with every last drop of testosterone sucked out, he is mocked as 'wussy white boy' or dweeby-dork. A white guy is a 'racist' if proud and a 'loser' if nice.

    Good points. Douthat, French are incredible degenerates and cowards. But there are other negrophiliacs. Ann Coulter gave an interview a couple of months ago about how blacks are special and that we owe them because of slavery. Glen Beck has some insane historian David Barton give talks about how whites and blacks built the USA together. Limbaugh is going nuts because the black NFL is disappearing because whites no longer attend.

    Along with getting rid of the illegals, segregating blacks and Jews is high on the list of things to do.

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  217. How do you make a Mexican patriot scream?

    Send him back to Mexico.

    Let’s try it out on Jorge Ramos and see if it’s true.

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  218. Avery says:
    @Santoculto
    And Fred, her hair is not straight.

    And Fred, she is also a child: maybe 14, 15?
    And Fred, why would you post a pic of a Mexican child – instead of an adult Mexican woman – to promote this article?
    A little creepy, No?

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    instead of an adult Mexican woman –
     
    sheesh

    she looks thirteen to me

    hell, could be twelve
    , @Ron Unz

    And Fred, she is also a child: maybe 14, 15?
    And Fred, why would you post a pic of a Mexican child – instead of an adult Mexican woman – to promote this article?
    A little creepy, No?
     
    Ha, ha... I'm afraid I spent just a couple of minutes hunting around for a somewhat appropriate Shutterstock image to illustrate Fred's column, and poor Fred gets psychoanalyzed as a consequence. I suppose the psychoanalysis should instead be directed at a very busy software developer...
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  219. @The Plutonium Kid
    It shames me as an American to admit it, but you're right. Mexico's problems with violent crime are largely due to America's bottomless appetite for drugs.

    Why do people always repeat this nonsense? It sounds good, I suppose, to a certain class of liberals looking to white knight on behalf of the little brown people in Juarez. I don’t think beheading 20 people and then hanging their decapitated corpses from a highway overpass can really be blamed on some poor schmuck in Ohio who shoots up. No, this is Mexico simply being Mexico.

    In any case, the U.S. uses less cocaine per capita than the UK and Spain, and less than half of opiates per capita than the UK. And did you know the Mexican cartels also service Europe? They do. And did you further know that British banks like HSBC have been caught laundering their money? They have.

    Blaming Mexican drug violence on the U.S. is really the last refuge of simpletons.

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    The United States, however, has five times the population of Great Britain, which means the American market is much bigger even if Britain's per capita use is higher. American banks have been caught laundering drug money too, and no matter how you look at it, violence in Mexico wasn't nearly as high before the rise of the cartels. We can't just pretend that the drug violence in Mexico has nothing to do with us.
    , @Joe Wong
    Any society infested by drugs, violence, moral bankruptcy, corruption and social disintegration will prevail; the only way to deal with drugs infestation is to cut off the sources (demand and supply) and eliminate the drugs suppliers and users with decisive action.

    Democracy is not only the wrong tool to deal with drugs infestation it is the environment to breed drugs infestation. USA provides the rich source (demand) and ample means (guns, thugs, and political interference) for the drugs environment in Mexico to flourish. Mexican cannot win the war on drugs in face such powerful resistance forces next door that render their anti-drugs effort meaningless. This is not rhetoric but the conclusion from a 150 years of painful experience dealing with drugs (Opium).

    The appalling situation in Mexico is not the worst, it could be a lot more worse.

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  220. Ron Unz says:
    @Thomm
    My understanding is that in 1870, the SouthWest was still 75% Mexican-American.

    My understanding is that in 1870, the SouthWest was still 75% Mexican-American.

    I don’t have the figures at hand, but I very much doubt that’s correct…

    At the time of the Mexican-American War, I think there were only something like 7,000 Spanish-speaking people in all of California and maybe 15,000 in Texas, plus maybe a few thousand in the remaining territories seized, which were basically uninhabited desert (except for wild Indian tribes). The sole exception was New Mexico, where I think the Mexican population was around 50-60,000.

    With the Gold Rush, huge numbers of Americans arrived in CA, quickly swamping and absorbing the few Mexicans. I’d assume something similar happened in all the other states, except for New Mexico, which failed to attract settlers and remained roughly 40-60% Hispanic down to the present day.

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    uninhabited desert (except for wild Indian tribes)
     
    Yeah, and they don't count. After all, it was merely their land, not Spain's or Mexico's. But who cares, right?
    Yet it was they who kept the population of northern New Spain/Mexico so limited. If you have not already read it, you might find interesting George Ruxton's 1847 account of his Adventures in Mexico. He describes in some detail the situation in Mexico during the Mexican-American war and how the wild Indian tribes of the north spread ruin and terror throughout Mexican lands. Mexicans had been unable to defeat them for centuries. It took the Americans to do that.
    Ruxton wrote:
    "[T]he most formidable enemy, and the most feared and dreaded by the inhabitants of Durango and Chihuahua, are the warlike Comanches, who, from their distant prairie country from beyond the Del Norte and Rio Pecos, at certain seasons of the year, and annually, undertake organized expeditions into these states, and frequently far into the interior (as last year into the vicinity of Sombrerete), for the purpose of procuring animals and slaves, carrying off the young boys and girls, and massacring the adults in the most wholesale and barbarous manner.
    "So regular are these expeditions that in the Comanche calendar the month of September is known as the Mexico Moon, as the other months are designated the buffalo moon, the young bear moon, the corn moon, etc. ...
    "Every year their incursions extend farther into the interior as the frontier haciendas become depopulated by their ravages, and the villages deserted and laid waste. For days together in the Bolson de Mapimi I traversed a country completely deserted on this account, passing through ruined villages untrodden for years by the foot of man...." (Italics mine.)
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  221. Rurik says: • Website
    @Avery
    And Fred, she is also a child: maybe 14, 15?
    And Fred, why would you post a pic of a Mexican child - instead of an adult Mexican woman - to promote this article?
    A little creepy, No?

    instead of an adult Mexican woman –

    sheesh

    she looks thirteen to me

    hell, could be twelve

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  222. @uslabor
    Why don't you go home! Why don't YOU go back to where ever it is you crossed the ocean from!
    Many of us didn't cross the border,
    THE BORDER CROSSED US!

    Many of us didn’t cross the border,
    THE BORDER CROSSED US!

    Oh rubbish. That was largely uninhabited wasteland at the time America took control of it. It was only after white people made something of it that lying mexer scum rushed to live in it.

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  223. Ron Unz says:
    @Avery
    And Fred, she is also a child: maybe 14, 15?
    And Fred, why would you post a pic of a Mexican child - instead of an adult Mexican woman - to promote this article?
    A little creepy, No?

    And Fred, she is also a child: maybe 14, 15?
    And Fred, why would you post a pic of a Mexican child – instead of an adult Mexican woman – to promote this article?
    A little creepy, No?

    Ha, ha… I’m afraid I spent just a couple of minutes hunting around for a somewhat appropriate Shutterstock image to illustrate Fred’s column, and poor Fred gets psychoanalyzed as a consequence. I suppose the psychoanalysis should instead be directed at a very busy software developer…

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    My apologies to Fred.
    Sorry, Ron: I jumped the gun.
    Didn't know you had put up the pic.

    No psychoanalysis needed: I have been in the same boat many a times (i.e. software development under duress).

    I am still amazed that one man can do it all.
    I know you architected the UNZ.com site and are the principal developer.
    But do you have _any_ assistants, e.g. software testers?
    Do you also moderate the 100s of posts that flood in daily?

    If you are a one-man-operation, then I don't know how you do it.

    Best regards.
    Avery.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Ron, I don’t know about copyright, but replacing the stock chica with a screenshot of this tweet & caption would be magnifico:

    https://twitter.com/D1C0MM/status/888912804731699204
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  224. Drayson says:

    When there are thousands of non-vetted illegal Mexicans pouring into your country every month carrying diseases and a history of crime, they don’t have any resemblance to the pretty little girl at the top of this story. Illegal Mexicans are taxing our country’s welfare system that puts Americans who are in poverty at risk. Every year, the Federal Treasury, filled by U.S. taxpayers’ hard earned money, pays over $113,000,000,000 (billion) annually for illegal aliens living in America. That money pays for schooling for their kids, free breakfasts and lunches, medical care, Section 8 Housing, bussing, food stamps and more across 15 Federal agencies. (Source: http://www.Fairus.org)

    On top of that, millions of legal immigrants ride U.S. welfare rolls like Somalian refugees with 100,000 of them in Minneapolis, Minnesota. They lack educational abilities or skills other than driving cabs and running simple shops—thus live on welfare.

    Millions of jobless Americans live on welfare rolls. Food banks feed millions of Americans with donations. The Federal Government indicates that 13 million American children live below the poverty line. Poor Americans enjoy $3.09 billion annually to help them with utilities—out of your taxpayer pocket. (Source: U.S. Health and Human Services)

    Despite five years of economic recovery, poverty remains stubbornly high in America. More than 45 million people, or 14.5 percent of all Americans, lived below the poverty line last year. The Census Bureau reported these facts in 2016.

    At least 95,000 illegal alien children flood U.S. schools in 50 states at a cost of $8,000.00 annually per child, plus English as a second language at $2,000.00 annually per child, plus free lunches and breakfasts per child. Cost: billions upon billions annually out of your pocket. (Source: Breitbart, 95,000 illegal immigrant children flood US schools, February 8, 2016)

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  225. currahee says:

    re. photo
    if they actually looked like this, american women would build the wall by hand.

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  226. @Ron Unz

    The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.
     
    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    I assume the same is mostly true in Texas as well, though since I don't know that state as well I can't really be sure.

    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    Ron, if you could wave your magic wand and reduce Latino numbers in California by, whatever, say, 50%, 75%, 90% – take your pick – would you do it? If not, what if somehow you “knew” you had nothing to fear from the dreaded Anglo (or WASP or Teuton or whatever name you want to give them), would that change your thinking?

    You don’t even have to answer me. It would just be useful for you to know in your heart how you actually feel, because I think that, like so many other Jews of your generation, you’ve feared the Anglo so long and so hard you really can’t think straight.

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    Ron, if you could wave your magic wand and reduce Latino numbers in California by, whatever, say, 50%, 75%, 90% – take your pick – would you do it?
     
    Not really. Basically, when I was growing up, I think California was something like 5-10% Hispanic and a fine place to live, and now it's 40% Latino and still pretty nice. Although the negatives are indeed much larger, I don't see almost any of them as having to do with the ethnic changes.

    Traffic is much worse, housing is hugely expensive, and wage-competition has greatly driven down the standard of living. So if half the population disappeared, the quality of life would be greatly improved, but not if the Latinos disappeared and were just replaced by Anglos or other people.

    You'd never know it from reading anti-immigration websites, but California is currently one of the big states where things are going best right now, both economically and in the opinion of the voters. That's one of the reasons Trump's anti-DC campaign failed so badly here, while he won the states of the Industrial Midwest, where things are going badly and people are extremely dissatisfied and pessimistic. When times are pretty good, people aren't as eager to overthrow the government.

    Here's a reality check. Since housing is so ridiculously expensive in CA, anyone who lives here in a very ordinary house could sell it and buy a huge, fancy house almost anywhere else in the country. So unless they're tied down here by special circumstances, the views of Californians who endlessly complain about immigration or taxes or anything else here should be taken with a large grain of salt.
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  227. @Thomm
    My understanding is that in 1870, the SouthWest was still 75% Mexican-American.

    Mexico’s claim to what became the American southwest carries as much moral weight as Argentina’s claim to Antarctica.

    Or to use another example, it’s like if China beats Russia and takes over some of Siberia, it’s not nearly the same loss to Russia as losing territory near Moscow.

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  228. Avery says:
    @Ron Unz

    And Fred, she is also a child: maybe 14, 15?
    And Fred, why would you post a pic of a Mexican child – instead of an adult Mexican woman – to promote this article?
    A little creepy, No?
     
    Ha, ha... I'm afraid I spent just a couple of minutes hunting around for a somewhat appropriate Shutterstock image to illustrate Fred's column, and poor Fred gets psychoanalyzed as a consequence. I suppose the psychoanalysis should instead be directed at a very busy software developer...

    My apologies to Fred.
    Sorry, Ron: I jumped the gun.
    Didn’t know you had put up the pic.

    No psychoanalysis needed: I have been in the same boat many a times (i.e. software development under duress).

    I am still amazed that one man can do it all.
    I know you architected the UNZ.com site and are the principal developer.
    But do you have _any_ assistants, e.g. software testers?
    Do you also moderate the 100s of posts that flood in daily?

    If you are a one-man-operation, then I don’t know how you do it.

    Best regards.
    Avery.

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    [Top 30 Most beautiful Mexican women]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXPSrCynhII


    Órale!
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  229. @(((Owen)))

    The fact that there’s a surplus of bellicose and racially chauvinistic leaders in the Mexican-American community almost ensures expanded conflict between whites and Latinos in the future.
     
    The audience for such 'leaders' does not exist in the Mexican-American community. The funding and support for those leaders comes from white SJWs and their corporate and government contacts. They exist as a wedge for goodwhites against badwhites. Latinos mostly don't know or care about them.

    Why does this comment have an orange border? Can I stipulate a blue one or red according to mood, or maybe a decorator’s turquoise?

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  230. Avery says:
    @Avery
    My apologies to Fred.
    Sorry, Ron: I jumped the gun.
    Didn't know you had put up the pic.

    No psychoanalysis needed: I have been in the same boat many a times (i.e. software development under duress).

    I am still amazed that one man can do it all.
    I know you architected the UNZ.com site and are the principal developer.
    But do you have _any_ assistants, e.g. software testers?
    Do you also moderate the 100s of posts that flood in daily?

    If you are a one-man-operation, then I don't know how you do it.

    Best regards.
    Avery.

    [Top 30 Most beautiful Mexican women]

    Órale!

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  231. So far I guess Latino legal and illegal immigration has done a lot less damage (if any in fact) to old Americans’ material welfare than the costs of the arms industry, stupid wars, hsalth insurance and big pharma etc. They might, being relatively young and earning and spending money even be a fiscal plus when everything is taken into account. And they don’t vote anything like their weight in numbers plus they outbreed blacks (just) who are already a big negative if you are a taxpayer.

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  232. Ron Unz says:
    @silviosilver

    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.
     
    Ron, if you could wave your magic wand and reduce Latino numbers in California by, whatever, say, 50%, 75%, 90% - take your pick - would you do it? If not, what if somehow you "knew" you had nothing to fear from the dreaded Anglo (or WASP or Teuton or whatever name you want to give them), would that change your thinking?

    You don't even have to answer me. It would just be useful for you to know in your heart how you actually feel, because I think that, like so many other Jews of your generation, you've feared the Anglo so long and so hard you really can't think straight.

    Ron, if you could wave your magic wand and reduce Latino numbers in California by, whatever, say, 50%, 75%, 90% – take your pick – would you do it?

    Not really. Basically, when I was growing up, I think California was something like 5-10% Hispanic and a fine place to live, and now it’s 40% Latino and still pretty nice. Although the negatives are indeed much larger, I don’t see almost any of them as having to do with the ethnic changes.

    Traffic is much worse, housing is hugely expensive, and wage-competition has greatly driven down the standard of living. So if half the population disappeared, the quality of life would be greatly improved, but not if the Latinos disappeared and were just replaced by Anglos or other people.

    You’d never know it from reading anti-immigration websites, but California is currently one of the big states where things are going best right now, both economically and in the opinion of the voters. That’s one of the reasons Trump’s anti-DC campaign failed so badly here, while he won the states of the Industrial Midwest, where things are going badly and people are extremely dissatisfied and pessimistic. When times are pretty good, people aren’t as eager to overthrow the government.

    Here’s a reality check. Since housing is so ridiculously expensive in CA, anyone who lives here in a very ordinary house could sell it and buy a huge, fancy house almost anywhere else in the country. So unless they’re tied down here by special circumstances, the views of Californians who endlessly complain about immigration or taxes or anything else here should be taken with a large grain of salt.

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    Ron, your reply assumes I think hispanics are horrible. As a matter of fact, I don't think that at all. It pleases me that anti-immigration extremists are often wrong or exaggerating about hispanics. Racially - which is what everyone here wants to know : ) - I have much less to worry about than the average European: judging by how often I was spoken to in Spanish when I lived in the southwest, about half of Latinos think I'm one of them.

    But see, I'm into European identity, and Latinos can't really give me that. (I don't care if people call me a greasy dago or whatever. I've even come to miss it.) As nice and as friendly as they can be, it's just not the same as interacting with someone closer to home, racially and culturally speaking. That's the real harm done by immigration insanity, in my view. Of course, someone can always say to me (and they do) how can I take such a stance when my own ancestors were immigrants, but the answer is simple: mass immigration was a dumb idea then, and it's an even dumber now - surely we want to learn from our mistakes rather than double down on them, right?

    You're entitled to your views, and it wouldn't be fair for me to call you a liar, but I must say, I'm flatly astonished that you'd be indifferent to whether your city or your neighborhood is populated by Europeans or by hispanics.
    , @Bragadocious
    That’s one of the reasons Trump’s anti-DC campaign failed so badly here

    Huh, I thought Trump's anti-DC campaign failed so badly because he didn't campaign in California -- at all -- after the San Jose debacle where a gang of Mexitrash (with the wink wink consent of the mayor) punched, pummeled and spit on Trump supporters. It's funny how seeing your supporters carted off to the ER for treatment will make a candidate think twice about spending time in your state. Not a good look for California, not at all. Oh well, the rich and privileged still have their $8/hr landscapers, so it's all good.
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  233. Jake says:
    @Linda Green
    For those unaware the continental Latins are of far more utility than the island Latins to working people in the US. Many of the island Latins first taste of life in the US coincides with life in the Northeast or South Florida, which immediately colors their perspective of just how far whining and bellyaching can go to put a roof over ones head. For the continental latins, who largely get ahead in life through the sweat of their brow, it is not a natural fit to embrace bellyaching as a career strategy. Part of Barack Obamas legacy will be the inroads made to turn hardworking family oriented continental latins into first whiners and drama queens, then, if his group could pull it off, to make them new citizens of the US. The extreme measures taken by the left in the US have in many ways turned what was a long standing natural equilibrium among peoples into a more hostile situation. Trumps comments about Mexicans played into this theme. It may take some time for the dust to settle but if politicians in the US will stop their partisan attempts to use these people as pawns for political power, particularly attempts to reward great numbers of illegals with citizenship, the old equilibrium will return. This equilibrium is a natural order, it was not brought about via political decision, rather mutually beneficial arrangements between freely consenting adults.

    ‘Island Latins’ have a whole lot more black blood and culture than do ‘continental Latins.’

    That tells almost the whole story.

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  234. Jake says:
    @Ron Unz

    The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.
     
    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    I assume the same is mostly true in Texas as well, though since I don't know that state as well I can't really be sure.

    I think you are correct.

    The great glaring problem of most hardline immigration folks – such as the ardent WASPs at VDARE – is that they either are ignorant of the history of both WASP hatred of most other whites and of whites getting along reasonably well with all Hispanics that are not significantly black, or else they wish to hide those facts so they can blame Mexicans over and over.

    And, of course, the VDARE crowd always gets back to praising Know-Nothings for hating, and violently assaulting Irish Catholics. When they deny they harbor deep animus against non-WASP whites, just read on a couple of days, and it will come back up.

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    And, of course, the VDARE crowd always gets back to praising Know-Nothings for hating, and violently assaulting Irish Catholics. When they deny they harbor deep animus against non-WASP whites, just read on a couple of days, and it will come back up.
     
    I get all that. But so what? It's not as if only WASPs stand to benefit from immigration restriction.
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  235. Thomm says:

    Regarding the photo :

    Sheesh… don’t use some underage girl.

    Just use a pretty Mexican actress/TV personality like Inez Sainz, Vanessa Villela, or Ninel Conde.

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    Just use a pretty Mexican actress/TV personality like Inez Sainz, Vanessa Villela, or Ninel Conde.
     
    White Mexican women cyborgs.
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  236. joe webb says:

    go home Fred. You are a race traitor. Every7 day in my lo9cal paper in Palo Alto, there is mexican crime reported. And that is only a portion of it per a cop I know.

    Also go to hell.

    Joe Webb

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  237. @Ron Unz

    And Fred, she is also a child: maybe 14, 15?
    And Fred, why would you post a pic of a Mexican child – instead of an adult Mexican woman – to promote this article?
    A little creepy, No?
     
    Ha, ha... I'm afraid I spent just a couple of minutes hunting around for a somewhat appropriate Shutterstock image to illustrate Fred's column, and poor Fred gets psychoanalyzed as a consequence. I suppose the psychoanalysis should instead be directed at a very busy software developer...

    Ron, I don’t know about copyright, but replacing the stock chica with a screenshot of this tweet & caption would be magnifico:

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    Wasn't there some international report a few years ago ranking Mexicans as the fattest people in the world? Pretty embarrassing...

    But if I recall correctly, that same report ranked Americans as the *second* fattest people. So we really should be grateful to our helpful Southern neighbor...
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  238. @Ron Unz

    Ron, if you could wave your magic wand and reduce Latino numbers in California by, whatever, say, 50%, 75%, 90% – take your pick – would you do it?
     
    Not really. Basically, when I was growing up, I think California was something like 5-10% Hispanic and a fine place to live, and now it's 40% Latino and still pretty nice. Although the negatives are indeed much larger, I don't see almost any of them as having to do with the ethnic changes.

    Traffic is much worse, housing is hugely expensive, and wage-competition has greatly driven down the standard of living. So if half the population disappeared, the quality of life would be greatly improved, but not if the Latinos disappeared and were just replaced by Anglos or other people.

    You'd never know it from reading anti-immigration websites, but California is currently one of the big states where things are going best right now, both economically and in the opinion of the voters. That's one of the reasons Trump's anti-DC campaign failed so badly here, while he won the states of the Industrial Midwest, where things are going badly and people are extremely dissatisfied and pessimistic. When times are pretty good, people aren't as eager to overthrow the government.

    Here's a reality check. Since housing is so ridiculously expensive in CA, anyone who lives here in a very ordinary house could sell it and buy a huge, fancy house almost anywhere else in the country. So unless they're tied down here by special circumstances, the views of Californians who endlessly complain about immigration or taxes or anything else here should be taken with a large grain of salt.

    Ron, your reply assumes I think hispanics are horrible. As a matter of fact, I don’t think that at all. It pleases me that anti-immigration extremists are often wrong or exaggerating about hispanics. Racially – which is what everyone here wants to know : ) – I have much less to worry about than the average European: judging by how often I was spoken to in Spanish when I lived in the southwest, about half of Latinos think I’m one of them.

    But see, I’m into European identity, and Latinos can’t really give me that. (I don’t care if people call me a greasy dago or whatever. I’ve even come to miss it.) As nice and as friendly as they can be, it’s just not the same as interacting with someone closer to home, racially and culturally speaking. That’s the real harm done by immigration insanity, in my view. Of course, someone can always say to me (and they do) how can I take such a stance when my own ancestors were immigrants, but the answer is simple: mass immigration was a dumb idea then, and it’s an even dumber now – surely we want to learn from our mistakes rather than double down on them, right?

    You’re entitled to your views, and it wouldn’t be fair for me to call you a liar, but I must say, I’m flatly astonished that you’d be indifferent to whether your city or your neighborhood is populated by Europeans or by hispanics.

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    Ron, your reply assumes I think hispanics are horrible. As a matter of fact, I don’t think that at all....But see, I’m into European identity, and Latinos can’t really give me that. (I don’t care if people call me a greasy dago or whatever. I’ve even come to miss it.) As nice and as friendly as they can be, it’s just not the same as interacting with someone closer to home, racially and culturally speaking.
     
    Well, each to his own. Mexicans seem like pretty good people to me, better than some though perhaps not as good as others.

    But upthread, I think there was some older guy from California who didn't much like Mexican immigration but had some really scathing things to say about the Okies and Arkies who once poured into California and caused all sorts of problems for many years. Offhand, it sounded like he'd have gladly traded them for nice Mexicans...
    , @Ron Unz
    I really have to leave this thread, but before I go I think I'll leave you with a real brain-teaser...

    Back a few years ago, I was corresponding with some young WN fellow, and I made a claim that utterly shocked him. I said that I thought it fairly likely that of all the many immigrant groups that had contributed to the success of Silicon Valley, Latino immigrants were the single most important group, more so than the Chinese or the Koreans or the Indians or the Russians. Certainly not more than all the others combined, but more than any other single immigrant group.

    He thought the idea sounded totally crazy, but after I explained my reasoning, he admitted I made a pretty plausible case (a year or two later, he stopped being a WN though he still sometimes hangs around here and remains an ardent HBDist/IQist).

    Anyway, that's my closing riddle, and I'll be curious to see whether anyone can figure it out...
    , @AP
    Mexicans are culturally more like Italians (actual ones, not English-speaking-only Italian Americans whose ancestors came over generations ago) than are WASPs.
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  239. @Jake
    I think you are correct.

    The great glaring problem of most hardline immigration folks - such as the ardent WASPs at VDARE - is that they either are ignorant of the history of both WASP hatred of most other whites and of whites getting along reasonably well with all Hispanics that are not significantly black, or else they wish to hide those facts so they can blame Mexicans over and over.


    And, of course, the VDARE crowd always gets back to praising Know-Nothings for hating, and violently assaulting Irish Catholics. When they deny they harbor deep animus against non-WASP whites, just read on a couple of days, and it will come back up.

    And, of course, the VDARE crowd always gets back to praising Know-Nothings for hating, and violently assaulting Irish Catholics. When they deny they harbor deep animus against non-WASP whites, just read on a couple of days, and it will come back up.

    I get all that. But so what? It’s not as if only WASPs stand to benefit from immigration restriction.

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    You know all that and don't care. That IS the problem.

    Fruit produces after its own kind. That should be understood going in both ways. Not only can you know that apple trees produce apples, but that trees you do not 'know' are apple trees if they indeed produce apples.

    If WASP culture globally has, since its inception out the Reformation, been philo-Semitic, because of arising from a Judaizing heresy (and it has been just that), and if that philo-Semtiic WASP culture has a long history of its Elites romanticizing and petting non-whites as part of its culture war to stamp down on 'Other' whites, then any 'Other' white who volunteers to back WASP culture hopelessly naive.

    WASP culture will always produce the fruit it has always produced. And that fruit starts with being BFF with Jews while also hating and acting to smash almost all other whites.

    WASP Elites know they DO benefit from things that we suffer from. And they intend to keep it that way. They are playing culture war against us, and they use jews, Moslems, blacks, etc. as their pawns and tools.

    The VDARE crowd may keep hoping that one day WASP culture will wake up and be what they want it to be, but then again, I know true Marxists who swear that the next time, Marxism will work tp create a nearly perfect society.
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  240. Ron Unz says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Ron, I don’t know about copyright, but replacing the stock chica with a screenshot of this tweet & caption would be magnifico:

    https://twitter.com/D1C0MM/status/888912804731699204

    Wasn’t there some international report a few years ago ranking Mexicans as the fattest people in the world? Pretty embarrassing…

    But if I recall correctly, that same report ranked Americans as the *second* fattest people. So we really should be grateful to our helpful Southern neighbor…

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    ranked Americans as the *second* fattest
     
    If we keep the flow going north, we can be number one! :|

    While you’re here, a question about putting tweets in the comments: I’ve noticed some posted tweets by myself and others are sometimes ‘stripped’ down to plain text. I’m intrigued to know why and what is the filtering criteria for selectively stripping Twitter sources. Not a criticism, just wondering.

    P.S., Thanks for your work in hosting this site. The comment system is great.
    , @Anon
    I think Gulf Arabs are fatter: http://gazettereview.com/2016/06/top-10-fattest-countries-in-world/ .

    I guess oil money and burqas make a bad mix (the article notes women are more often obese than men in several Arab countries listed).
    , @L.K
    Unz, you and Fred get so much "love" from the alt right/white nationalists for your defense of Mexicans/Hispanics... :-)

    It's quite amusing... at least it seems Fred makes up for it a little, by saying negative stuff about blacks and Muslims, hahaha

    As far as the fatties go, I dunno the ranking, but I remember when I first went to the US in the 1990s, as a high school exchange student, I was pretty impressed by how many fat people I saw, had never seen so many or so fat, really disgustingly obese types...

    BTW, been reading some of your articles re hispanic crime rates in the US, also your stuff on IQ...
    Pretty interesting... I found it persuasive. Before reading them I really thought the alt right had it correct, not so sure anymore.
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  241. Ron Unz says:
    @silviosilver
    Ron, your reply assumes I think hispanics are horrible. As a matter of fact, I don't think that at all. It pleases me that anti-immigration extremists are often wrong or exaggerating about hispanics. Racially - which is what everyone here wants to know : ) - I have much less to worry about than the average European: judging by how often I was spoken to in Spanish when I lived in the southwest, about half of Latinos think I'm one of them.

    But see, I'm into European identity, and Latinos can't really give me that. (I don't care if people call me a greasy dago or whatever. I've even come to miss it.) As nice and as friendly as they can be, it's just not the same as interacting with someone closer to home, racially and culturally speaking. That's the real harm done by immigration insanity, in my view. Of course, someone can always say to me (and they do) how can I take such a stance when my own ancestors were immigrants, but the answer is simple: mass immigration was a dumb idea then, and it's an even dumber now - surely we want to learn from our mistakes rather than double down on them, right?

    You're entitled to your views, and it wouldn't be fair for me to call you a liar, but I must say, I'm flatly astonished that you'd be indifferent to whether your city or your neighborhood is populated by Europeans or by hispanics.

    Ron, your reply assumes I think hispanics are horrible. As a matter of fact, I don’t think that at all….But see, I’m into European identity, and Latinos can’t really give me that. (I don’t care if people call me a greasy dago or whatever. I’ve even come to miss it.) As nice and as friendly as they can be, it’s just not the same as interacting with someone closer to home, racially and culturally speaking.

    Well, each to his own. Mexicans seem like pretty good people to me, better than some though perhaps not as good as others.

    But upthread, I think there was some older guy from California who didn’t much like Mexican immigration but had some really scathing things to say about the Okies and Arkies who once poured into California and caused all sorts of problems for many years. Offhand, it sounded like he’d have gladly traded them for nice Mexicans…

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  242. @Ron Unz
    Wasn't there some international report a few years ago ranking Mexicans as the fattest people in the world? Pretty embarrassing...

    But if I recall correctly, that same report ranked Americans as the *second* fattest people. So we really should be grateful to our helpful Southern neighbor...

    ranked Americans as the *second* fattest

    If we keep the flow going north, we can be number one! :|

    While you’re here, a question about putting tweets in the comments: I’ve noticed some posted tweets by myself and others are sometimes ‘stripped’ down to plain text. I’m intrigued to know why and what is the filtering criteria for selectively stripping Twitter sources. Not a criticism, just wondering.

    P.S., Thanks for your work in hosting this site. The comment system is great.

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    While you’re here, a question about putting tweets in the comments: I’ve noticed some posted tweets by myself and others are sometimes ‘stripped’ down to plain text. I’m intrigued to know why and what is the filtering criteria for selectively stripping Twitter sources. Not a criticism, just wondering.
     
    Videos are very "heavy" so after the system had expanded a few comments containing videos, it stopped expanding the remaining comments in order to prevent the thread from getting too "heavy." However, since images and Tweets are much "lighter", a day or two ago I modified the system so that it would continue expanding those other elements.

    http://www.unz.com/announcement/new-software-releaseopen-thread/

    Let me know if you now notice any unexpanded Tweets, and I'll try to fix the problem.
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  243. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Ron Unz
    Wasn't there some international report a few years ago ranking Mexicans as the fattest people in the world? Pretty embarrassing...

    But if I recall correctly, that same report ranked Americans as the *second* fattest people. So we really should be grateful to our helpful Southern neighbor...

    I think Gulf Arabs are fatter: http://gazettereview.com/2016/06/top-10-fattest-countries-in-world/ .

    I guess oil money and burqas make a bad mix (the article notes women are more often obese than men in several Arab countries listed).

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  244. Ron Unz says:
    @silviosilver
    Ron, your reply assumes I think hispanics are horrible. As a matter of fact, I don't think that at all. It pleases me that anti-immigration extremists are often wrong or exaggerating about hispanics. Racially - which is what everyone here wants to know : ) - I have much less to worry about than the average European: judging by how often I was spoken to in Spanish when I lived in the southwest, about half of Latinos think I'm one of them.

    But see, I'm into European identity, and Latinos can't really give me that. (I don't care if people call me a greasy dago or whatever. I've even come to miss it.) As nice and as friendly as they can be, it's just not the same as interacting with someone closer to home, racially and culturally speaking. That's the real harm done by immigration insanity, in my view. Of course, someone can always say to me (and they do) how can I take such a stance when my own ancestors were immigrants, but the answer is simple: mass immigration was a dumb idea then, and it's an even dumber now - surely we want to learn from our mistakes rather than double down on them, right?

    You're entitled to your views, and it wouldn't be fair for me to call you a liar, but I must say, I'm flatly astonished that you'd be indifferent to whether your city or your neighborhood is populated by Europeans or by hispanics.

    I really have to leave this thread, but before I go I think I’ll leave you with a real brain-teaser…

    Back a few years ago, I was corresponding with some young WN fellow, and I made a claim that utterly shocked him. I said that I thought it fairly likely that of all the many immigrant groups that had contributed to the success of Silicon Valley, Latino immigrants were the single most important group, more so than the Chinese or the Koreans or the Indians or the Russians. Certainly not more than all the others combined, but more than any other single immigrant group.

    He thought the idea sounded totally crazy, but after I explained my reasoning, he admitted I made a pretty plausible case (a year or two later, he stopped being a WN though he still sometimes hangs around here and remains an ardent HBDist/IQist).

    Anyway, that’s my closing riddle, and I’ll be curious to see whether anyone can figure it out…

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    I really have to leave this thread, but before I go I think I’ll leave you with a real brain-teaser…

    Back a few years ago, I was corresponding with some young WN fellow, and I made a claim that utterly shocked him. I said that I thought it fairly likely that of all the many immigrant groups that had contributed to the success of Silicon Valley, Latino immigrants were the single most important group, more so than the Chinese or the Koreans or the Indians or the Russians. Certainly not more than all the others combined, but more than any other single immigrant group.
     
    If memory serves, Ron is referring to how the Latinx pushed Blacks out of places like Palo Alto. The Latinx are quite mediocre in pretty much every area, but they are much less violent than Blacks. And they make an excellent servant class for rich guys like Ron......Hence, the massive Latinx invasion has made Silicon Valley a better place to live for the elite.....
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    Your riddle is sublimely simple, Mr Unz.

    The Mexicans do all the landscaping, nannying, cooking, and other mundane tasks which frees up all the Silicon Valley douchebags to spend their entire day dreaming up the next big thing in social media spyware and crony capitalist graft.

    Screw them both. Screw the Mexicans and screw Silicon Valley. We don't need either the low class or the high class parasites, thank you very much.
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  245. Ron Unz says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    ranked Americans as the *second* fattest
     
    If we keep the flow going north, we can be number one! :|

    While you’re here, a question about putting tweets in the comments: I’ve noticed some posted tweets by myself and others are sometimes ‘stripped’ down to plain text. I’m intrigued to know why and what is the filtering criteria for selectively stripping Twitter sources. Not a criticism, just wondering.

    P.S., Thanks for your work in hosting this site. The comment system is great.

    While you’re here, a question about putting tweets in the comments: I’ve noticed some posted tweets by myself and others are sometimes ‘stripped’ down to plain text. I’m intrigued to know why and what is the filtering criteria for selectively stripping Twitter sources. Not a criticism, just wondering.

    Videos are very “heavy” so after the system had expanded a few comments containing videos, it stopped expanding the remaining comments in order to prevent the thread from getting too “heavy.” However, since images and Tweets are much “lighter”, a day or two ago I modified the system so that it would continue expanding those other elements.

    http://www.unz.com/announcement/new-software-releaseopen-thread/

    Let me know if you now notice any unexpanded Tweets, and I’ll try to fix the problem.

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  246. Pepe says:
    @Thomm
    Regarding the photo :

    Sheesh... don't use some underage girl.

    Just use a pretty Mexican actress/TV personality like Inez Sainz, Vanessa Villela, or Ninel Conde.

    Just use a pretty Mexican actress/TV personality like Inez Sainz, Vanessa Villela, or Ninel Conde.

    White Mexican women cyborgs.

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  247. @Ron Unz

    While you’re here, a question about putting tweets in the comments: I’ve noticed some posted tweets by myself and others are sometimes ‘stripped’ down to plain text. I’m intrigued to know why and what is the filtering criteria for selectively stripping Twitter sources. Not a criticism, just wondering.
     
    Videos are very "heavy" so after the system had expanded a few comments containing videos, it stopped expanding the remaining comments in order to prevent the thread from getting too "heavy." However, since images and Tweets are much "lighter", a day or two ago I modified the system so that it would continue expanding those other elements.

    http://www.unz.com/announcement/new-software-releaseopen-thread/

    Let me know if you now notice any unexpanded Tweets, and I'll try to fix the problem.

    Excellent. Thanks!

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  248. L.K says:
    @Ron Unz
    Wasn't there some international report a few years ago ranking Mexicans as the fattest people in the world? Pretty embarrassing...

    But if I recall correctly, that same report ranked Americans as the *second* fattest people. So we really should be grateful to our helpful Southern neighbor...

    Unz, you and Fred get so much “love” from the alt right/white nationalists for your defense of Mexicans/Hispanics… :-)

    It’s quite amusing… at least it seems Fred makes up for it a little, by saying negative stuff about blacks and Muslims, hahaha

    As far as the fatties go, I dunno the ranking, but I remember when I first went to the US in the 1990s, as a high school exchange student, I was pretty impressed by how many fat people I saw, had never seen so many or so fat, really disgustingly obese types…

    BTW, been reading some of your articles re hispanic crime rates in the US, also your stuff on IQ…
    Pretty interesting… I found it persuasive. Before reading them I really thought the alt right had it correct, not so sure anymore.

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    “love” from the alt right/white nationalists
     
    I wish we had a definition for what exactly was meant by 'white nationalist' LK

    I suspect that what people intend when they use that expression is a meth addicted, toothless redneck in the hills of Appalachia railing about 'blacks taking our women' or 'Mexicans taking our jobs' in between swigs of Budweiser and hits on the meth pipe.

    who openly pines for a return of Manifest Destiny (if not bringing back slavery) where whitey will march from Maine to San Diego and drive out all the darkies once and for all.

    or something like that

    And I suppose there even are some people like that, tho I've never met or even really heard of one.

    What I'd like to know is where on the spectrum does a person qualify for that pejorative?

    If they want to keep the ZUSA majority white for (perfectly sane) reasons of ethnic interests, does that qualify? Are not Zimbabwe (or revolutionary Haiti for that matter) places of warning for people who roll over and play dead, betting their destinies (or lack there of) on the forbearance of the non-whites to protect their rights?

    if they lament the decision of black rule in S. Africa, does that qualify?

    If they simply resent Affirmative Action as unprincipled and morally wrong, does that qualify?

    what about the Germans who oppose massive Muslim (and everyone else) immigration into their ancient lands... Are they 'white nationalists?

    And if so, is that necessarily a bad thing?

    I sometimes wonder if the expression 'white nationalist' or 'alt-right' isn't used in the same way as the ubiquitous pejorative 'racist' is used, to malign all people to the right of your positions as being the worst possible caricature of an ignoble type of loser.

    http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/200108/27_pugmiret_klanrally/slideshow/kkk.jpg

    when for some of us it means something else all together

    http://img.aws.la-croix.com/2014/11/29/1244983/Marion-Marechal-Le-Pen_0_730_340.jpg

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  249. syonredux says:
    @Ron Unz
    I really have to leave this thread, but before I go I think I'll leave you with a real brain-teaser...

    Back a few years ago, I was corresponding with some young WN fellow, and I made a claim that utterly shocked him. I said that I thought it fairly likely that of all the many immigrant groups that had contributed to the success of Silicon Valley, Latino immigrants were the single most important group, more so than the Chinese or the Koreans or the Indians or the Russians. Certainly not more than all the others combined, but more than any other single immigrant group.

    He thought the idea sounded totally crazy, but after I explained my reasoning, he admitted I made a pretty plausible case (a year or two later, he stopped being a WN though he still sometimes hangs around here and remains an ardent HBDist/IQist).

    Anyway, that's my closing riddle, and I'll be curious to see whether anyone can figure it out...

    I really have to leave this thread, but before I go I think I’ll leave you with a real brain-teaser…

    Back a few years ago, I was corresponding with some young WN fellow, and I made a claim that utterly shocked him. I said that I thought it fairly likely that of all the many immigrant groups that had contributed to the success of Silicon Valley, Latino immigrants were the single most important group, more so than the Chinese or the Koreans or the Indians or the Russians. Certainly not more than all the others combined, but more than any other single immigrant group.

    If memory serves, Ron is referring to how the Latinx pushed Blacks out of places like Palo Alto. The Latinx are quite mediocre in pretty much every area, but they are much less violent than Blacks. And they make an excellent servant class for rich guys like Ron……Hence, the massive Latinx invasion has made Silicon Valley a better place to live for the elite…..

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    If memory serves, Ron is referring to how the Latinx pushed Blacks out of places like Palo Alto.
     
    That mexers are better than blacks is just obvious. A couple of years ago this mexican guy was telling me that he's even heard of whites moving to Compton, now that it's been so heavily denegrified.

    Well, if that's the only form of pro-white politicking available, it's better than nothing, but there's no question it causes huge problems of its own, especially down the road. Still, it would be a huge step forward if pro-immigration Republicans threw the cat among the pigeons by making this argument explicitly.

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  250. anonguy says:

    Way way back in the day (1980), I used to ride (motorcycle type) down to Ensenada from Camp Pendleton with a friend or two for the Mexican ladies and the incredible cruising scene.

    Mexican Graffiti, what a spectacle and a vibe.

    One weekend was Mexican 1%er, where they were the biggest demographic and Federales the second.

    Had a little girlfriend there for a while, me and a friend used to get way off the grid, only gringos since forever, and it was obvious, young white Marines, usually rather lit as well, in Mexican dance clubs quite aggressively hitting on the the local girls.

    Not exactly the best way to win friends with a local people but I had nothing but terrific experiences except once or twice.

    Anyhow, I remember that back then, to the extent that I or my (white Anglo) friends in the Corps thought about it, we didn’t think of Mexicans as a different race, I thought more like Italians/Mediterraneans, only maybe a bit darker, just like Italians are darker than English, kind of on that spectrum.

    This was reinforced by the fact that the Mexican-American Marines, and there were plenty back then, tended to very adamant that they were white, would typically take some umbrage if it was implied otherwise. This was in direct contrast to the Puerto Ricans, the other large Hispanic demographic in the Corps then, who were equally adamant that they weren’t white.

    It should be noted that in that era, the Mexican-Americans in the Corps very much tended to be multi-generational citizens of the United States, what people used to call Chicano back then.

    These sorts of tribal understandings were very open and understood without rancor in the Corps then, which was less non-Hispanic white than it is now.

    Generally, the blacks and the Puerto Ricans mixed socially when they mixed socially outside their groups in the same way that whites and Mexican-Americans. Furthermore, the barrier/tribal boundary was weakest, and noticeably so, between (non-Hispanic) whites, or Anglos as the Mexican-Americans preferred term for non-Hispanic whites, and Mexican-Americans. Quite often, there was none at all, I had a couple of pals who I didn’t regard as much other than another white dude with dark hair and sometimes swarthy skin.

    Card games had an english only rule throughout the Corps. Not much love lost between the Mexican-Americans and the Puerto Ricans. As far as I remember, their only perceived commonality was the Spanish language rather than any shared identity against the other. And even at that, the Puerto Ricans tended to make fun of how the Mexican-Americans spoke Spanish, slow, they seemed to view it, at least teasingly, with the same sort of contempt many northerners have for a Southern drawl, a mark of a slow, uncultured mind.

    It has been interesting to see Mexicans become a different “race”, kinda sorta, at least in that if one doesn’t like them one is a racist, in many perceptions over the past decades.

    Anyhow, yes, beautiful and charming young ladies, again, used to skip the SoCal girls and go the extra miles for them.

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    Well I'm hardly an expert in this area but I believe that people in Northern Mexico tend to be whiter than people from more southern states. And Chicanos probably tend to be whiter than Mexicans without deep roots in the US. But I think a major factor is the "Flight from White" in recent decades that Sailer, among others, has discussed. Whiteness has gone from a desirable trait to an undesirable one in a remarkably short time. So quickly that it seems some people of your generation are unaware it's even happened, or at least how bad it's gotten. That's my experience with a 61 year old good friend of mine.
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  251. @1legdrvn
    So much rubbish in the comments based it seems on the inbred idea of exceptionalizm. How about a different slant? When in the last 525 years have you who are occupiers not been at some form of war with Nations existing in this western hemisphere? Either economic or bullets or advisors to our enthroned dictators? Please name one country in this hemisphere we have supported to decide for themselves their own form of governing. Next name the ones we have said "Your country.....Your decision". Shouldn't take long, as both lists will be very short. I wonder how many of you "exceptional" people would get educated in a war zone. How many of you would have a full belly at night when the only possibility of anything to eat lies just a foot deeper in the garbage dump.
    Poverty, hunger, and despair are what this country and the european colonialist powers have given to the peoples of this hemisphere. All of it based on the three pillars of imperialism, Rape, Pillage and plunder.
    These people look at the US and our obese population and what do you think they see and think? Oh right, I'm sorry, I forgot that only you with your divine wisdom are capableof thinking. Feeling remorse or having compassion for your victims is out of the question since then you would have to recognize and admit your portion of guilt of the actions of this nation which is " the light in the hill", the beacon of virtue.
    We have and still are teaching these countries the true meaning of democracy, that being one person, one bullet.
    How about y'all do some concerted research. Try starting with General Smedly Butler.

    Am I correct in assuming that you’re engaged in parody? Especially the “three pillars of imperialism” part?

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  252. whoever says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    My understanding is that in 1870, the SouthWest was still 75% Mexican-American.
     
    I don't have the figures at hand, but I very much doubt that's correct...

    At the time of the Mexican-American War, I think there were only something like 7,000 Spanish-speaking people in all of California and maybe 15,000 in Texas, plus maybe a few thousand in the remaining territories seized, which were basically uninhabited desert (except for wild Indian tribes). The sole exception was New Mexico, where I think the Mexican population was around 50-60,000.

    With the Gold Rush, huge numbers of Americans arrived in CA, quickly swamping and absorbing the few Mexicans. I'd assume something similar happened in all the other states, except for New Mexico, which failed to attract settlers and remained roughly 40-60% Hispanic down to the present day.

    uninhabited desert (except for wild Indian tribes)

    Yeah, and they don’t count. After all, it was merely their land, not Spain’s or Mexico’s. But who cares, right?
    Yet it was they who kept the population of northern New Spain/Mexico so limited. If you have not already read it, you might find interesting George Ruxton‘s 1847 account of his Adventures in Mexico. He describes in some detail the situation in Mexico during the Mexican-American war and how the wild Indian tribes of the north spread ruin and terror throughout Mexican lands. Mexicans had been unable to defeat them for centuries. It took the Americans to do that.
    Ruxton wrote:
    “[T]he most formidable enemy, and the most feared and dreaded by the inhabitants of Durango and Chihuahua, are the warlike Comanches, who, from their distant prairie country from beyond the Del Norte and Rio Pecos, at certain seasons of the year, and annually, undertake organized expeditions into these states, and frequently far into the interior (as last year into the vicinity of Sombrerete), for the purpose of procuring animals and slaves, carrying off the young boys and girls, and massacring the adults in the most wholesale and barbarous manner.
    “So regular are these expeditions that in the Comanche calendar the month of September is known as the Mexico Moon, as the other months are designated the buffalo moon, the young bear moon, the corn moon, etc. …
    “Every year their incursions extend farther into the interior as the frontier haciendas become depopulated by their ravages, and the villages deserted and laid waste. For days together in the Bolson de Mapimi I traversed a country completely deserted on this account, passing through ruined villages untrodden for years by the foot of man….” (Italics mine.)

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    But leftists tell me that Native Americans are all pure and good. Attacking other POC means they must have internalized white supremqcy.
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  253. @syonredux

    I really have to leave this thread, but before I go I think I’ll leave you with a real brain-teaser…

    Back a few years ago, I was corresponding with some young WN fellow, and I made a claim that utterly shocked him. I said that I thought it fairly likely that of all the many immigrant groups that had contributed to the success of Silicon Valley, Latino immigrants were the single most important group, more so than the Chinese or the Koreans or the Indians or the Russians. Certainly not more than all the others combined, but more than any other single immigrant group.
     
    If memory serves, Ron is referring to how the Latinx pushed Blacks out of places like Palo Alto. The Latinx are quite mediocre in pretty much every area, but they are much less violent than Blacks. And they make an excellent servant class for rich guys like Ron......Hence, the massive Latinx invasion has made Silicon Valley a better place to live for the elite.....

    If memory serves, Ron is referring to how the Latinx pushed Blacks out of places like Palo Alto.

    That mexers are better than blacks is just obvious. A couple of years ago this mexican guy was telling me that he’s even heard of whites moving to Compton, now that it’s been so heavily denegrified.

    Well, if that’s the only form of pro-white politicking available, it’s better than nothing, but there’s no question it causes huge problems of its own, especially down the road. Still, it would be a huge step forward if pro-immigration Republicans threw the cat among the pigeons by making this argument explicitly.

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  254. AndrewR says:
    @whoever

    uninhabited desert (except for wild Indian tribes)
     
    Yeah, and they don't count. After all, it was merely their land, not Spain's or Mexico's. But who cares, right?
    Yet it was they who kept the population of northern New Spain/Mexico so limited. If you have not already read it, you might find interesting George Ruxton's 1847 account of his Adventures in Mexico. He describes in some detail the situation in Mexico during the Mexican-American war and how the wild Indian tribes of the north spread ruin and terror throughout Mexican lands. Mexicans had been unable to defeat them for centuries. It took the Americans to do that.
    Ruxton wrote:
    "[T]he most formidable enemy, and the most feared and dreaded by the inhabitants of Durango and Chihuahua, are the warlike Comanches, who, from their distant prairie country from beyond the Del Norte and Rio Pecos, at certain seasons of the year, and annually, undertake organized expeditions into these states, and frequently far into the interior (as last year into the vicinity of Sombrerete), for the purpose of procuring animals and slaves, carrying off the young boys and girls, and massacring the adults in the most wholesale and barbarous manner.
    "So regular are these expeditions that in the Comanche calendar the month of September is known as the Mexico Moon, as the other months are designated the buffalo moon, the young bear moon, the corn moon, etc. ...
    "Every year their incursions extend farther into the interior as the frontier haciendas become depopulated by their ravages, and the villages deserted and laid waste. For days together in the Bolson de Mapimi I traversed a country completely deserted on this account, passing through ruined villages untrodden for years by the foot of man...." (Italics mine.)

    But leftists tell me that Native Americans are all pure and good. Attacking other POC means they must have internalized white supremqcy.

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    Why the hell was the editing feature removed
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  255. AndrewR says:
    @AndrewR
    But leftists tell me that Native Americans are all pure and good. Attacking other POC means they must have internalized white supremqcy.

    Why the hell was the editing feature removed

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  256. AndrewR says:
    @anonguy
    Way way back in the day (1980), I used to ride (motorcycle type) down to Ensenada from Camp Pendleton with a friend or two for the Mexican ladies and the incredible cruising scene.

    Mexican Graffiti, what a spectacle and a vibe.

    One weekend was Mexican 1%er, where they were the biggest demographic and Federales the second.

    Had a little girlfriend there for a while, me and a friend used to get way off the grid, only gringos since forever, and it was obvious, young white Marines, usually rather lit as well, in Mexican dance clubs quite aggressively hitting on the the local girls.

    Not exactly the best way to win friends with a local people but I had nothing but terrific experiences except once or twice.

    Anyhow, I remember that back then, to the extent that I or my (white Anglo) friends in the Corps thought about it, we didn't think of Mexicans as a different race, I thought more like Italians/Mediterraneans, only maybe a bit darker, just like Italians are darker than English, kind of on that spectrum.

    This was reinforced by the fact that the Mexican-American Marines, and there were plenty back then, tended to very adamant that they were white, would typically take some umbrage if it was implied otherwise. This was in direct contrast to the Puerto Ricans, the other large Hispanic demographic in the Corps then, who were equally adamant that they weren't white.

    It should be noted that in that era, the Mexican-Americans in the Corps very much tended to be multi-generational citizens of the United States, what people used to call Chicano back then.

    These sorts of tribal understandings were very open and understood without rancor in the Corps then, which was less non-Hispanic white than it is now.

    Generally, the blacks and the Puerto Ricans mixed socially when they mixed socially outside their groups in the same way that whites and Mexican-Americans. Furthermore, the barrier/tribal boundary was weakest, and noticeably so, between (non-Hispanic) whites, or Anglos as the Mexican-Americans preferred term for non-Hispanic whites, and Mexican-Americans. Quite often, there was none at all, I had a couple of pals who I didn't regard as much other than another white dude with dark hair and sometimes swarthy skin.

    Card games had an english only rule throughout the Corps. Not much love lost between the Mexican-Americans and the Puerto Ricans. As far as I remember, their only perceived commonality was the Spanish language rather than any shared identity against the other. And even at that, the Puerto Ricans tended to make fun of how the Mexican-Americans spoke Spanish, slow, they seemed to view it, at least teasingly, with the same sort of contempt many northerners have for a Southern drawl, a mark of a slow, uncultured mind.

    It has been interesting to see Mexicans become a different "race", kinda sorta, at least in that if one doesn't like them one is a racist, in many perceptions over the past decades.

    Anyhow, yes, beautiful and charming young ladies, again, used to skip the SoCal girls and go the extra miles for them.

    Well I’m hardly an expert in this area but I believe that people in Northern Mexico tend to be whiter than people from more southern states. And Chicanos probably tend to be whiter than Mexicans without deep roots in the US. But I think a major factor is the “Flight from White” in recent decades that Sailer, among others, has discussed. Whiteness has gone from a desirable trait to an undesirable one in a remarkably short time. So quickly that it seems some people of your generation are unaware it’s even happened, or at least how bad it’s gotten. That’s my experience with a 61 year old good friend of mine.

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    "Whiteness has gone from a desirable trait to an undesirable one in a remarkably short time. "

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.
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  257. Would be interesting analyze how black or amerindian ancestry increase or decrease violence rates among hispanicos.

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    My guess is that it would differ slightly per the Indian tribe ancestry - the genetics of tribe, as opposed to region of birth and rearing and even of tribal membership of the individuals ancestors.

    For example, the Indians of the southeast US routinely adopted children they captured from other tribes. And one of the things that the Leftist Nurture types will gag on is that invariably the most vicious and brutal Cherokee were non-Cherokee in ancestry. The Cherokee who would lead in slaughtering white children and women almost always were genetically Shawnee or Creek. Attakullakulla (Little Carpenter) was born to a small Algonquian-speaking tribe living near the Great Lakes and allied with the Algonquian-speaking Shawnee. His son Dragging Canoe, whose mother was at least half Creek, founded the Chickamauga Cherokee, which was a renegade group at least half-outlawed from the main Cherokee towns. The Chickamaugas focused on attacking white women and children.

    And the Chickamaugas featured large numbers of Creeks and Shawnee. My guess is that no more than a third of the Chickamauga men were genetically Cherokee through both parents.

    Indian tribes are far from the same.

    And yes, the Indians in old northern Mexico were brutal killers. That's the reason, for example, that the Mexican government hired Americans to scalp Apaches. That was the best way to keep the Apache from raiding Mexican villages and slaughtering everyone they did not want as a slave.
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  258. @Bragadocious
    Why do people always repeat this nonsense? It sounds good, I suppose, to a certain class of liberals looking to white knight on behalf of the little brown people in Juarez. I don't think beheading 20 people and then hanging their decapitated corpses from a highway overpass can really be blamed on some poor schmuck in Ohio who shoots up. No, this is Mexico simply being Mexico.

    In any case, the U.S. uses less cocaine per capita than the UK and Spain, and less than half of opiates per capita than the UK. And did you know the Mexican cartels also service Europe? They do. And did you further know that British banks like HSBC have been caught laundering their money? They have.

    Blaming Mexican drug violence on the U.S. is really the last refuge of simpletons.

    The United States, however, has five times the population of Great Britain, which means the American market is much bigger even if Britain’s per capita use is higher. American banks have been caught laundering drug money too, and no matter how you look at it, violence in Mexico wasn’t nearly as high before the rise of the cartels. We can’t just pretend that the drug violence in Mexico has nothing to do with us.

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    Here's a question. Do you consider Mexicans to be adults, with moral agency? If so, you'd have to conclude the ISIS-style violence in Mexico is their fault. If not, you can certainly blame America for everything. But you'd also have to say that Mexicans are not fit to vote, drive a car or even have children. Can't have it both ways.
    , @mobi

    no matter how you look at it, violence in Mexico wasn’t nearly as high before the rise of the cartels. We can’t just pretend that the drug violence in Mexico has nothing to do with us.
     
    If America is causing Mexicans to act like bloodthirsty, corrupt, amoral savages because - drug trade, then why doesn't the same work in reverse? America is an even bigger, more active participant in the same drug trade.

    How come Mexico's involvement in the drug trade doesn't make Americans behave this way?

    Whatever could it possibly be?

    , @syonredux

    and no matter how you look at it, violence in Mexico wasn’t nearly as high before the rise of the cartels.
     
    Actually, the homicide rate in Mexico was higher before the rise of the drug cartels:

    repetition of the mantra "this is the bloodiest era in the country's history since the Mexican Revolution" (Analysis, 4 April) does not make it true. The Cristero (Catholic) insurgency of the late 1920s (ie after the revolution) generated homicide rates of 200 per 100,000 (the standard metric), compared to 24 per 100,000 in 2011; more significantly, the homicide rate in 1940 was 67 per 100,000; and even circa 1960 – when no revolts happened and the "Peace of the PRI" (the then ruling party) prevailed – it was higher than it is today.
     
    Alan Knight
    Professor of the history of Latin America, Oxford University

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/10/mexico-murder-rate
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  259. KenH says:
    @Ron Unz

    The actual numbers of Mexicans embracing victimhood dogma is far smaller than the fake news would have us believe, at least outside of California.
     
    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California, probably better than the Irish and Italians did in New England 50-60 years ago.

    I assume the same is mostly true in Texas as well, though since I don't know that state as well I can't really be sure.

    Actually, despite the nonsense you often hear from anti-immigration sources, Anglos and Latinos/Mexicans get along perfectly well in California,

    Then why are whites fleeing the state? It also seems that racial resegregation, especially among whites, is the trend around Los Angeles which probably wouldn’t be the case if race relations were so heavenly.

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-bader-resegregation-los-angeles-20160401-story.html

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  260. Corvinus says:
    @The Plutonium Kid

    I’m well aware of the legitimacy of Anglo-American. I’m just stating how a good deal of white Americans do not refer themselves in that particular way.
     
    I never said they did. What point could you possibly be trying to make by bringing this up?

    In other words, it’s mere talk. Because every day the elites become more and more powerful while you and those “concerned” simply write blogs or make without following in the footsteps of our past patriots who spoke AND took action.
     
    In other words, you're just another keyboard commando.

    “What point could you possibly be trying to make by bringing this up?”

    When you use the term “Anglo Americans”, you come across just like the elitists you supposedly disdain.

    “In other words, you’re just another keyboard commando.”

    I’m not the one harping on how elitists are running roughshod over the world and few people are doing anything about it.

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