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A storm, methinks, is just over the horizon: The genetics of intelligence, perhaps of behavior. Geneticists know that intelligence is largely genetic. They know better than to say so. But research advances rapidly. Laboratories close in on the responsible genes. Things like genomic-sequence correlation proceed apace. Within ten or fifteen years, I will guess, the genetics of IQ will be firmly established. If the results turn out as seems likely…then what? What does a pseudo-democracy do when clearly stratified by intellectual capacity?

The mainstream media seem to sense the danger. We see descriptions of genetics as “pseudoscience,” hear muttering about ”scientific racism” and eugenics and just like Hitler. This is the bleating of child minds. Genetics is absolutely mainstream science. Following the field requires some knowledge of biochemistry which requires some knowledge of organic chemistry which requires some knowledge of general chemistry and some knowledge of eighth-grade algebra. Since few, even among the bright, wield these credentials, the public can still be told that genetics is racism. This won’t last.

The growing panic surfaced in the recent stripping of honors from James Watson, co-discoverer of the DNA helix. His sin? He said that the measured gap in intelligence between blacks and whites is genetic. For this he was silenced. It is science by fiat, Lysenkoism.

The hostility to genetics springs entirely from the fear that Mr. Watson will be proved right–that it will show blacks to be less intelligent than whites. Of course the politically correct don’t really believe in the intellectual equality of the races. If they did, they would welcome genetic research as a way of establishing the equality. You do not fear investigation unless you suspect it will give the wrong answer.

A similar though smaller gap is suspected between whites and Latinos. For this there is evidence,and counter-evidence. A gap seems to exist between whites and various Asians. We shall see. But the black-white gap is the bombshell. Here the evidence is overwhelming, and there is no counter-evidence. Thus the furious repression.

That intelligence is genetic should be obvious regardless of technical knowledge. Any dog breeder will tell you that Border Collies are brighter than beagles, that if you mate smarter dogs to smarter dogs, within a few generations you will have a strain of smarter dogs. If intelligence were cultural as we are obliged to say, almost on pain of death, all the children who grew up in Isaac Newton’s neighborhood would have been towering mathematical geniuses. Were they?

A dread question: Is it not now obvious, has it not been obvious for a very long time, that blacks cannot function in a technological society? A few, yes. Most, no. This is the case worldwide. Low intelligence, perhaps accompanied by poor impulse control, explains well the urban chaos, the crime, the poverty.

We are accustomed now to the intractable gap between blacks and whites. The gap appears on all tests of cognitive capacity and academic achievement: all of the IQ tests, the SATs, GREs, MCATs, LSATs, ACT, National Merit, AFQT, and others. This is so predictable as to make the value of pi seem capricious . The politically correct attribute the disparity to racism, institutional racism, unconscious racism, structural racism, poor self-esteem, white privilege, slavery, colonialism, culture, environment, and different learning styles. Do we really believe this?

Yearly the horrible news pours from the schools. The results of Maryland’s state test of academic achievement are typical. In 2017 in Baltimore there were thirteen high schools in which not a single student tested proficient in math. Customarily this is blamed on poor schools, but every aspect of the Baltimore system, from the mayor to the students is controlled by blacks, and the per-student expenditure is high. Similar results from other cities–Detroit, Chicago–are common, normal, expected.

A question no one asks, at least not out loud: To what extent are blacks dependent on the charity of whites? What would happen if all public assistance, all programs specifically or de facto for blacks were withdrawn?

Without affirmative action, racial quotas formal and informal, blacks would almost disappear from universities and the white-collar world. I think we all know this, but most recoil from the implications. I don’t blame them.

I am not sure that we all understand the extent of the affirmative programs and the distortions they cause for society. For example, on exams for promotion in police departments, by a large margin the top scorers are white so that, if departments advanced the most qualified, blacks would almost disappear. The same pattern exists for any job requiring intelligence. This can easily be confirmed.

What would happen if Section Eight housing were abandoned, Head Start, AFDC, free lunch and breakfasts in inner-city schools, food stamps, and all the rest? I do not recommend doing this–the consequences would be hideous–but do suggest thinking about it. The conclusion will probably be that blacks are in custodial care. If this is not true, tell me why it is not.

Look, without averting your gaze, at our many cities in catastrophic and apparently irremediable racial dysfunction. Look at Boston, Newark, Camden, Trenton, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, Milwaukee, New Orleans, St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, Oakland. These are the center of mass of black America, not the polished talking heads of the networks. These regions are huge, necrotic, barely touched by white civilization except through television. In eight hours of driving through them, you will never see a white face. The culture is not ours, the language, notions of civility. Another world. It doesn’t change. Apparently it can’t change.

ORDER IT NOW

The costs for America are high. Blacks, unable to compete, angry, hopeless, demand this, demand that. Streets must be renamed, statues torn down. . Attacks on whites continue, often brutal, always hidden by the media. Academic standards must be repudiated for them. Our cities become Haiti. In Chicago young blacks kill seven hundred of each other, in Baltimore three hundred. American culture coarsens under the angry grunting of rap. Now blacks demand the rewriting of our history.

The cultural degradation imposed to disguise inadequacy beggars belief. In a recent example among hundreds that could be adduced, American University will no longer grade the quality of writing. A brief quote will suffice:

“This plenary will argue against the use of conventional standards in college courses that grade student writing by single standards. Inoue will discuss the ways that White language supremacy is perpetuated in college classrooms despite the better intentions of faculty, particularly through the practices of grading writing.”

Detwaddled, this means that since literacy cannot be expected of blacks, it cannot be required of whites. Of course blacks can learn normal English, at least if raised in it. Mexican blacks speak normal Spanish. Learning a language as adults is cognitively much more difficult. Demanding it of them would be racism. Recognizing the impossibility of raising blacks to white (or Japanese, or Chinese, or Indian) levels, AU will pull whites down.

Since at least the time of classical Athens, the civilized have known that the ability to write clearly, speak clearly, and think clearly are the same thing. In Ebonics, how do you say, “The entropy of a closed system tends to remain the same or to increase” “Dat be, like, you know, man, know what I’m sayin’?”

What is to be done? The policies usual in countries of the First World do not work. As a white man my inclination is to favor color-blindness, equality of opportunity, and advancement by merit. If East Asian kids outperform white kids academically by a wide margin, which they do, then they should get into Harvard and the white kids should not. Neurosurgeons should be chosen by competence and nothing else. Affirmative action lowers standards for society as a whole, sometimes dangerously.

All true, but….Realistically, meritocracy works well only in a monochrome population. If I, white, fail to get into CalTech in astrophysics, I will be disappointed but will not complain of unfair discrimination. I just wasn’t smart enough. But it is very different when a race in its entirety fails to gain entrance. It creates a de facto partitioning of society. In today’s America, merit isn’t going to work.

More is involved than a lack of black biochemists. Differences in intelligence cause differences in culture. Bright populations will favor classical music, literature, history, the sciences, art. Dimmer peoples will not. Look for bookstores in their neighborhoods. Making things worse is the lack of commonality between black and white civilizations. We may reasonably ask why blacks should be interested things we teach in our schools. Our European heritage goes back at least as far as the Sumeria of the mid-Fourth Millennium BC, through Greece and Rome and Augustine and Aquinas, through the Renaissance, Magna Carta, all the myriad of European thinkers and poets through the Industrial Revolution to Mars landers. None of this is the heritage of blacks. Why would they care, or understand why we care? We are utterly different peoples.

.What do we do if –when–genetics makes the obvious undeniable? What then?

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:

    Dangerous Idea

    Women become pregnant and gestate children and men do not. Women maintain that, for this reason, they are the proper arbiters of the decisions about baby-having. The elephant in the room is that this is not a contention that is derived from ethics or fairness , but rather from a position of power conferred by women’s biological attributes. An illustration of why we should recognize that this is wrong is that fact that our society has sanctions against men using their biological attribute of superior physical strength to gain an advantage against women..

    [MORE]

    On the other side of the issue, though, it’s also obviously neither fair nor ethical for anyone to try to co-opt control of women’s bodies and tell them whether or not they’re going to become pregnant or bring a given pregnancy to term. So, what are we to do to try to increase fairness to men, women and children? Continue with the assumption that men are to be treated as worker drones and the decision if and when to have children remains the province of women’s judgement alone? Continue to hold men responsible for ‘raising’ and ‘supporting’ children whose production was in large part the result of decision-making arrived at via the inherent power of their mothers’ physical, gender-based advantage? This seems neither equitable or desirable.

    Is it any wonder that battles of the sexes, brokering of women’s favors in exchange for men’s financial support, and less than healthy childhoods are so common?

    i posit the following as an outline of a solution.

    Since most people in America now agree that it’s wrong for people to own other people, suppose that we explicitly recognize that mothers and their children are not exempt form this principle, and that in our society, no one should be allowed to raise a child unless, before the birth, both the mother and father have signed a contract stating that they are each financially responsible for one half of the child’s support to age of majority. (These contracts would actually be enforced). The contract would hold irrespective of whether the man and woman remain together. Because of the inherent pain and risks of pregnancy and childbirth, the contract would require a standardized amount to be paid by the father to the mother in consideration of this work/risk. That amount would be deemed full compensation to the mother in lieu of, and would negate, any claim of other special rights by the mother in relation to the child and the father. Children born outside of this type of birth agreement contract would, the desires of either parent notwithstanding, be taken into the custody of a public agency and raised by the most caring and qualified professionals, applying the best possible practices, in well run and funded institutions set up expressly for that purpose. Contrasting with the life experience of unwanted kids in our current dysfunctional system, very little if any stigma should, nor as it became established, would, accrue to one’s being raised in an institution of the sort described above – rather it would, increasingly over time, simply be accepted as an indication that prior to one’s birth one’s parents were not in agreement about having a child – a lack of accord between them before one even entered the world and a part of their life stories rather than one’s own – and thus a fact devoid of personal rejection or negative implications about one’s intrinsic worth.

    If well implemented, the result would be far less of some things we’d be well rid of: welfare moms – with unhealthy, poorly raised kids born as income-generating tools, bad marriages, unhappy/unhealthy people, and the ancillary costs to our society.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
  2. It is common knowledge in Australia that the Aborigines, as a group and regardless of their skin color, do not have the same mental capacity of the whites, on average.

    It is commonly believed that Neanderthals were less mentally capable than Cro-magnon man.

    These things are quite obviously due to genetics and few argue against that. So, why might not the same objective standards apply to different races today?

    That said, the policies of “assistance” for African Americans are mostly intended to prevent race revolts and conflict such as race war.

    And, to the point that lowering standards for all so as to accommodate those among us who might be performing even below the average, so what? Those who intend to succeed scholastically because of innate curiosity and interest will always disregard those standards, or perhaps any standards, and will excel. Furthermore, the dilution or even absence of standards of performance in academics will be supplanted by strong family standards of excellence.

    I’m an example.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @James Scott
  3. What are we gonna do?

    This stuff didn’t become true when it was discovered. It’s always been true. What have we always done? Muddle through.

  4. Substantially, this essay seems to say most of what needs saying.

  5. anon[183] • Disclaimer says:

    “Since at least the time of classical Athens, the civilized have known that the ability to write clearly, speak clearly, and think clearly are the same thing. In Ebonics, how do you say, “The entropy of a closed system tends to remain the same or to increase” “Dat be, like, you know, man, know what I’m sayin’?”

    “the dilution or even absence of standards of performance in academics will be supplanted by strong family standards of excellence.”

    Somehow, I doubt that. More likely, the absence of standards will be used to continue discriminatory affirmative action policies with the logic that, “if everyone is equal, why not have equal representation?” Why else would they be abandoning standards in the first place? Clearly, it is to hide unequal representation at the higher end of the cognitive distribution for some groups. And what motive would they have for that? It’s to ensure greater numbers of said groups in various programs. That doesn’t lend itself to any standard of excellence, especially in the face of ferocious Chinese competition that is coming up very soon.

    Further, lowering standards once tends to lead to lowing them more than once until the desired result is achieved. South Africa has lowered its standards multiple times to the point where it’s just ridiculous.

    “South Africa’s Department of Basic Education has lowered the pass rate for mathematics to just 20% in an effort to keep children moving through the country’s struggling school system.”

    https://qz.com/africa/859222/south-africas-education-department-reduced-the-pass-mark-for-mathematics-to-20-in-schools/

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Kula
  6. buckwheat says:

    You don’t have to be an Einstein to know blacks are less intelligent than whites. All you have to do is have any kind of dealings with them and the truth jumps out. Liberals in white society will never stop coddling blacks because it makes them feel superior to the people that know the truth.

  7. Academid standards have changed, in the world-spread downward fashion, in Southern Europe too — and on no account of blacks (there are no blacks here).

    The governors have realized that if people are all given titles and credentials that used to mean something (or much), they won’t notice the credentials no longer carry their former weight, feel successful and smart, and this grossly sweetens the task of ruling over them.
    The result? Have everyone graduate with full marks. They won’t mind unemployment rates; won’t mind that 2 salaries now afford the life one salary afforded ere; won’t mind anything really — vanity dwarfs every other hunger of theirs, satiate it and you can forget the rest.

    90% if not 98% of people like it better this new way.

    (My post isn’t a counter-argument to the article’s, but an addition).

  8. @buckwheat

    The kernel of the issue is a status-boosting vanity-alimenting white intrarial “rat race”. Indeed.

    A feverish bubbling contest about whose exquisite duplicity and tartuffery are the exquisitest.

    • LOL: atlantis_dweller
  9. What do we do if –when–genetics makes the obvious undeniable? What then?

    High- tail it down to Ole Mexico? After the way you put it here, I can’t blame you one bit, Fred.

  10. @atlantis_dweller

    And this is why the brightest and most talented people are increasingly finding ways to leave the system—through the ironic taking of menial jobs, through a sort of urban hermitism, through video games, through drugs and alcohol, through suicide. Those who could have fought for the honors back when they meant something will not fight for them now that they mean nothing.

    • Agree: atlantis_dweller, Biff
  11. This is where Fred shines like a supernova.

    • Replies: @zeostroer
  12. Negroes don’t really demand anything. It’s white liberals who do the demanding for them.

  13. As long as we are talking about this subject all the way from Mexico, I wonder what Fred’s take is on this Quadri brouhaha. The irony is multi-level given that this vato is president of The “Morena” Party.

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/politician-slammed-for-remarks-about-poor-development/?utm_source=Mexico+News+Today&utm_campaign=7ab4819cce-MNT+jan14-2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f1536a3787-7ab4819cce-349530129

  14. It’s funny how Reed toggles back and forth between “we’re all white” unity talk and “the alt-right should be ashamed of itself for criticizing Mestizos.” Can’t have it both ways, big guy. Pick one identity and stick with it.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @republic
  15. diversity+proximity=war.

    either Whites will come to their senses and expel/exterminate the Jews and their shitskin orcs, or

    the Jews and their shitskin orcs will exterminate the Whites…

    …as is presently happening.

    there will be no “muddling through”.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @anon
  16. Liberal elites have known all of this or a long time. They know. All of the affirmative action, welfare, etc., are designed to keep things bubbling along at the present level for a while. After that, the deluge.

    • Replies: @atlantis_dweller
  17. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    I will assume that your solution is in jest, as it is neither practical nor enforceable.

  18. A good article by Fred! My only add is that the media constantly portrays blacks as the mental equals or superiors to whites–almost always the smartest guys in the room. People who have little interaction with blacks in real life will tend to believe the media-generated characterizations.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  19. None of this is the heritage of blacks. Why would they care, or understand why we care? We are utterly different peoples

    The East Asian kids who, you argue, should get into Harvard at the expense of whites: are they, too, not utterly different peoples? ‘Our European heritage’ is as alien to Asians as it is to blacks.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  20. wayfarer says:

    For me, comedy starts as a spew, a kind of explosion, and then you sculpt it from there, if at all. It comes out of a deeper, darker side. Maybe it comes from anger, because I’m outraged by cruel absurdities, the hypocrisy that exists everywhere, even within yourself, where it’s hardest to see.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Williams

    …..

  21. I am a lawyer near Detroit. Black lawyers have to pass the bar with no racial plus up points. The bar exam in Michigan has gotten much harder the last 15 years. Therefore the newer lawyers are all fairly smart. The older black lawyers are all over the place, the judges in particular tend to be both stupid and racist–and lazy.

    But the gap between the black lawyers (and engineers with PEs) and regular blacks is staggering when you go from one group to another. Walk out of the office and talk to someone in public, or talk to a black in the courthouse not in a suit, after talking to a black lawyer, and you suddenly drop from a 110 IQ conversation to an 85 one.

    I do some work for a teaching hospital program. Doctors have to take three exams after they get into med school, at various points (actually four, Step 2 exams are in two parts). Blacks advance along each Step with much lower scores. Like staggeringly lower.

    After completing a residency, docs have to wait a year to take the board exams, and become Board Certified. A lot need more than one try. Kind of surprised they haven’t given blacks a boost yet. An old time lawyer back when I first passed the bar told me he won’t be treated by any black doc, and related the story to the 1970s when black med students stopped failing out of med school and residencies no matter what. I was younger and dumb then, but since then I mostly agree, more so every year

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Anon
  22. Maybe yes, maybe no, but African Americans are just that, people of mixed black African and white American ancestry. At what dilution do the smart and clean white genes finally overtake the black ones? Genetics continues toward some sort of answer, but at this point arguments are based on statistics, which is foolish, and prejudice, which is common.

  23. MBlanc46 says:

    Not utterly different, but very different.

  24. MBlanc46 says:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    But Asians, too, have a long and rich intellectual and artistic tradition. They’re not identical, but they are comparable. We can come to admire their culture and the can come to admire ours. Blacks have nothing comparable.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Roy
  25. MBlanc46 says:
    @kerdasi amaq

    It’s not white liberals burning down cities every decade.

  26. Matthew says:

    The left in Europe is supporting massive illegal immigration from Africa, and tells them that they are victims. Their path to power is a path to disaster. They must be stopped.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  27. Corvinus says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    “either Whites will come to their senses and expel/exterminate the Jews and their shitskin orcs, or
    the Jews and their shitskin orcs will exterminate the Whites…”

    That would be fiction.

  28. @Random5499

    At what dilution do the smart and clean white genes finally overtake the black ones?

    Careful there, Stranger – you’re sneaking up on a pretty core question.

    The ‘shallow end’ of the HBDer pool – the NPCs who are sublimating a form of White nationalism because of deep insecurity – seem to be of the view that one drop of that dark ju-ju will wash the white right outta ya. Like they believed in the intellectual backwater of the US until the 60s.

    OK, so I was (ahem) emphasising for rhetorical effect, but I reckon that the NPC-type trashionalists would set the bar pretty low – if Great-Granpaw done fucked a darkie, you’re out of the pool; if Great-Gramma got fucked by a darkie, the blotch on the family escutcheon is permanent.

    Weirdly, all the HBDers crap on about breeding smart dogs with smarter dogs and getting even-more-smarterer dogs; ignoring that in this very example, one dog is dumber than the other (by definition)… yet somehow their offspring wind up smarter.

    So obviously it’s not just some linear combination, because there is no α ∈ [0,1] where

    α×RelativelyDumb + (1-α)×RelativelySmarter = EvenMoreSmarterer

    OK, so it must be something about probabilities: perhaps the mean of the IQ distribution for the offspring is centred somewhere between the two parents, and the standard deviation is unchanged (or decreased) … still means that the mean IQ of the offspring is necessarily lower than the smarter of the two parents, but there is (or could be) a higher probability of one offspring being smarter than the smart parent (compared to the probability of an arbitrary child selected from the population being smarter than the smart parent).

    We (kinda) know that if you kill off the puppies who don’t get to ‘breed standard’, the breed improves.

    If you know anything about dog breeds, you know t hat when it’s boiled down, that is actually how selective (dog) breeding works. It’s a little too “America in the 1920s” (Buck v Bell, anyone?) to implement in a modern society… the Germans had a go at it in the 1940s and everyone still gangs up on them for it.

    My personal opinion (being a quadroon, albeit with the darkie bits being Polynesian/Maori) is that the starting stock matters (of course), but thereafter it’s kind of a crapshoot. My (maternal) Grandad was 100% spear-chucker, and his wife was a Finn/Dane hybrid; his ‘mulatto’-daughter married my Dad (a Heinz-57 6’3″ blue-eyed white guy – with Celtiberian and Huguenot ancestors, as well as some Irish).

    Result: on Mum’s side (the side with the darkie stain), it’s literally like my cousins, siblings and I won a genetic lottery. On Dad’s side – where it’s white all the way back to the 16th century, it’s kinda meh on the achievements front. Nice enough people – yeoman farmer types, for the most part.

    Anecdotes are not evidence, so my own circumstances do not inform my view on the matter. However there are solid animal-husbandry reasons why the notion of “hybrid vigour” has been used for centuries: the question that HBDers must answer (to be taken seriously) is why they think it doesn’t apply to humans.

    As I’ve said before – if you’re not prepared to kill the dud puppies, then ‘purity obsession’ will get beaten by heterosis (hybrid vigour by another name) for the simple reason that there are more puppies from litters where heterosis can play a role, than there are in ‘pure bred’ litters.

    And let’s stipulate: killing the shit puppies is a bad thing and should never be policy.

    • Agree: niceland
    • Replies: @Sollipsist
    , @Art
    , @Raxotic
  29. @MBlanc46

    ‘… We can come to admire their culture and the can come to admire ours…’

    Definitely. Our trip to Japan was one of our favorite experiences — in just about every respect.

    I haven’t the least desire to emulate the Japanese — but I can certainly respect and appreciate them.

    • Agree: Cleburne
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  30. @Lawyer Guy

    ‘…An old time lawyer back when I first passed the bar told me he won’t be treated by any black doc, and related the story to the 1970s when black med students stopped failing out of med school and residencies no matter what…’

    Yeah — and even absent prejudice, affirmative action creates a logic that makes one avoid possible beneficiaries of it.

    I realized this when I was selecting a doctor at Kaiser. Blacks I ruled out immediately — no qualms about that.

    But then I realized I’d be a fool to pick a Hispanic either. After all, he or she could very well have been passed along even with marginal skills. Obviously, simple self-interest dictated that I limit myself to the Asian and white choices. Even setting aside racism, it simply made no sense to consider any black or Hispanic candidate.

    • Replies: @republic
  31. @Diversity Heretic

    ‘…People who have little interaction with blacks in real life will tend to believe the media-generated characterizations.’

    Even those who have some limited interactions won’t realize that they’re usually dealing disproportionately with an elite; those blacks who are intelligent enough to conform to white expectations concerning intelligence and behavior. The truly average black is just too stupid to fill any position that is going to lead to significant interaction with white people.

    Exposure to anything like a truly representative sample of blacks will make nonsense of any theory of racial equality.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Oleaginous Outrager
  32. @WorkingClass

    ‘…This stuff didn’t become true when it was discovered. It’s always been true. What have we always done? Muddle through.’

    We’ve never attempted to make blacks into fully equal participants in society before. I doubt if trying to do so will actually destroy us — but it has a massively corrosive effect in innumerable ways.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  33. @Bragadocious

    ‘It’s funny how Reed toggles back and forth between “we’re all white” unity talk and “the alt-right should be ashamed of itself for criticizing Mestizos.”…’

    Well, I feel largely the same way. On the one hand, I resent the attacks on white people, and I object to the increasingly open project to make the United States into a non-white country.

    On the other hand, I bear Hispanics no animus. They’re alright. When I visit Hispanic countries — at least ones that aren’t being racked by violence at the moment — I feel perfectly comfortable. I’m happy to employ Hispanics. I’ve had Hispanic co-workers and supervisors. I’ve had Hispanic girlfriends.

    Per se, there simply isn’t a problem. All this, by the way, refers to Hispanics who are mixtures of whites and Indians — not mixtures of white and black.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Leon Haller
  34. @Matthew

    ‘…The left in Europe is supporting massive illegal immigration from Africa…’

    Thinking about it, Europe seems to be attempting to commit suicide — and enjoying increasing success in the endeavor.

    First they carried out World War One. Then they came up with the considerably more destructive World War Two.

    Now they’ve hit upon admitting millions of blacks from Africa. This should prove more destructive still. They’re already very visibly a problem in just about every prosperous state in Europe.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  35. @Colin Wright

    ‘Per se, there simply isn’t a problem. ‘

    By that I don’t mean to imply that more should be allowed to come here. We shouldn’t admit any more immigrants — from anywhere. I’m indifferent as to whether they’re Asian, white, Hispanic, or black. They shouldn’t be allowed to come.

  36. When you have a heart attack do not blame us! Love your woman!

  37. TheOldOne says:

    Bragadocious:

    I’m sure Mr. Reed would be shocked, shocked, if anyone implied that any of this applied to Mexicans!

    • Replies: @atlantis_dweller
  38. republic says:
    @Bragadocious

    In most of his essays Reed puts in a final gratuitous paragraph praising some aspect of Mexican culture, seems that he left it out this time.

    I am sure that this omission will be rectified next time.

    • Replies: @Ray Huffman
  39. @Red Pill Angel

    The upheaval is coming!

    No, seriously.
    Of course the élite know. And of course the élite’s occupation and preoccupation is to fortify their hold on power.
    All the rest, including the mainstream culture and orthodoxy they work to construct and hold in place, is functional to those ends, and a function of those ends.
    This is why debate carries next to no import: what do you debate with others who either know or don’t know for? Debate leads nowhere.

    Still there is that 1% who have in themselves the will to learn about how the things of the world work, and it is their presence (perhaps they are one in a thousand, or in ten thousands) that justifies enterprises like the Unz Review, or being the white fly school teacher that tries to actually teach.

  40. @TheOldOne

    How do they say? The optimum is enemy to the good.

  41. Truth says:

    A similar though smaller gap is suspected between whites and Latinos. For this there is evidence,and counter-evidence.

    There is counter-evidence of this? where, pray-tell?

  42. republic says:
    @Colin Wright

    White male doctors followed by Jewish male doctors are the best. White male doctors are warmer, caring Jewish doctors are very competent albeit somewhat colder in their demeanor. bottom of list would be female black doctors.

    I was once in Malaysia, a country which practices extreme affirmative action for its majority Malays population, called Bumiputera.

    Malaysia has a minority Chinese and Indian population which faces extreme discrimination in university admissions.

    So when I was choosing a medical specialist I selected a male Chinese physician figuring that with all the extreme discrimination that a Chinese would face into getting into medical school that he must be very,very good.

    • Replies: @Matthew/Boston
  43. “Reading Is Fundamental” is what the poster said on the wall of my elementary school. It is hard to imagine the mind that could take offense to that statement. And yet reading it today I cringe a little, because the regnant interpretation of that statement must include an assessment of whether it is exclusionary, or racist, or ethnocentric. “Reading WHAT?!” one can hear the Commissar demand. Shakespeare? Or Maya Angelou? Theodore Dalrymple? Or Ta Nehisi Coates? And what of people who cannot “read”? Is it not an value judgment to deem them lacking in something fundamental? Is that not an elitist denunciation of a whole swath of humanity? And so the statement “Reading Is Fundamental” is no longer obviously “true”, it is contingently true. Incrementally, reality is being re-defined and the outcome is schizophrenic and becoming more so all the time. There is no way to muddle through such dysfunction. If you assign to anyone a task that is beyond his competency the result will be failure. We have and are continuing to assign tasks that are crucial to the nation’s continuation to the incompetent. The result will be failure. We can see the failure coming. In large part it is already here (the urban cores that Fred R. takes note of). But we are not allowed to address it; we are not even allowed to speak of it. As long as that political dispensation holds, the end is inevitable.

  44. One of Fred’s best in quite a while. When not busy pouring out his love for Mexicans, he can be insightful and bold.

    Only I wish he could conclude with some recommendation, or at least a tentative idea, in answer to his “What do we do if–when–genetics makes the obvious undeniable? What then?” It’s too much like the tired old op-ed gambit, “I don’t know the answers, I’m just asking the questions.” To earn a place at the table, a pundit ought to at least take a stab at drawing conclusions, however uncomfortable they may be.

  45. Truth says:

    In Chicago young blacks kill seven hundred of each other, in Baltimore three hundred.

    I don’t know there Big Frijole; there were 68 murders in Tijuana the first 9 days of 2019. This is after more than 2500 last year…

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/01/09/tijuana-18-murdered-in-18-hours/

    • Agree: Bliss
    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @Anon
  46. Truth says:
    @atlantis_dweller

    My friend, any addition that implicates whites for failing in any way, that does not blame blacks for the failure, is a “counter-argument”, In the land of the (copyright infringement unintended) “White Nationalist Wigger.”

  47. Gene Su says:
    @atlantis_dweller

    Academic (sic) standards have changed in the world… spread downward fashion (sic)… in Southern Europe too — and on no account of blacks (there are no blacks here).

    Here is a comment I posted in Fred Reed’s previous article. I think that a lot of people are unfairly putting the blame for the decline of American public schools on blacks. It might be that black children are very disruptive in school and have a negative effect. However, I went to a public school for grades K through 8 in a lily-white suburb (15 miles from where Dr. Robert Weissburg grew up). Here is what I remember:

    a. From grades 4 through 6, I learned almost no new math skills. I learned my multiplication tables in grade 3. I learned pre-algebra in grade 7. I have a feeling that I could have learned these skills earlier.

    b. I read The Adventures of Tom Sawyer on my own in grade 2. It was not until sophomore year in a parochial school when I read the sequel, the Adventures of Huckerberry Finn, as assigned reading.

    c. If I complained about how slow the curriculum felt, I was told that not everyone was as fast as me and the other students needed time to catch up.

    d. There were almost no blacks in my class (they only constituted 1% of the student body).

    3 Additional points:

    e. I remember being physically bullied in class – not by black kids but by whites.

    f. If I tried to fight back, the (white) teacher would threaten to have me (an Asian child) suspended or worse. I remember being kicked out of class and the library when the other children ganged up on me.

    g. If I complained to the (white) teacher, I would be asked what I was doing to make the other children dislike me, if I was doing anything to draw attention to myself, that maybe I enjoyed being picked on. Colin Flaherty likes to publish stories about how underclass black children like to bully the handful of white children who have to go to school with them. Perhaps we should ask those white children whether they are doing anything to make their black classmates dislike them.

  48. Gene Su says:
    @buckwheat

    If blacks are less intelligent, as you say, how come they have managed to take over half of the cities in America? Please don’t tell me it is because of their savagery or our guilt or (only) help from the left. All of the usual excuses are becoming trite.

  49. Uncle Sam says:

    Most blacks know in their heart of hearts that they are not on the same level as whites or even east asians. They know that they cannot “make it” without whites holding them by the hand. They know that whites are more advanced, more intelligent, better looking, more productive, more creative and more successful than they are.

    What is the result of these feelings and beliefs? Hatred and jealousy. That explains the violence directed against white people as evidenced by the knockout game, flash mob attacks and other attacks against whites. It also explains the raison d’etre for legal segregation. It is a natural reaction of people who know that they are backward and inferior. And it unquestionably explains why quite a few of them whiten or try to whiten their skin.

    To use a common figure of speech, blacks in America and other white countries are like fish out of water. They are living in a culture which is alien to their psychological, emotional and intellectual makeup and with which they cannot cope nor to which they can adapt. Not all of them are like this but most are. Anywhere from 70 to 90 per cent fall into this dysfunctional state of affairs. Nevertheless, policy has to be based on the rule and not the exception. That involves some injustice to competent blacks, especially the 16 per cent or so who have IQ’s above 100. Some special dispensation can be made for them.

    The problem before white America is extremely serious. Sooner or later, white America will have to choose between its survival, on one hand, and, on the other, hurting black people’s feelings or perhaps something far worse. Any white American who does not foresee this is living in a fool’s paradise.

    • Replies: @Truth
  50. haole says:
    @Gene Su

    Lucky you didnt grow up in Hawaii in majority asian schools run by Democrats. Look up the performance of asian public schools in Hawaii, better than detroit but not by much.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    , @Bliss
    , @Curle
  51. @WorkingClass

    While in one sense this is certainly true, the survivors must muddle through, this time it really is different, and not in a good way. The population of the world has tripled in my lifetime and we can no longer put space between us like birds on a wire, or troops of monkeys howling and flinging shit at each other.

    There is wisdom in what you say in that no one really has an answer except to keep on keeping on, but I don’t think that any reasonable person can look at what I link below and say that this is just like it has always been.

  52. Truth says:
    @Uncle Sam

    Most blacks know in their heart of hearts that they are not on the same level as whites or even east asians.

    I think you meant, “let alone East Asians” didn’t you?

    That’s how most of the Unz columnists would have written it, anyway.

  53. @Gene Su

    If blacks are less intelligent, as you say, how come they have managed to take over half of the cities in America?

    White flight.

  54. East Asians should for the most part be in East Asia, not the United States.
    They should be going to the University of Tokyo, not Harvard.

    Just like Incas, Mayans, and Aztecs belong in Mexico and points South, not the United States.

  55. @haole

    Hawaii should be given it’s independence.

    • Replies: @haole
  56. Bliss says:
    @haole

    Lucky you didnt grow up in Hawaii in majority asian schools run by Democrats. Look up the performance of asian public schools in Hawaii, better than detroit but not by much.

    Are you blaming the local Japanese for the low quality of schools in Hawaii?

    • Replies: @haole
  57. haole says:
    @Bliss

    Yes, they have run the dem party here since 1956 or so.

    • Agree: Bliss
    • Replies: @Bliss
  58. haole says:
    @Chris Mallory

    “”Hawaii should be given it’s independence.”” gimme time to sell out first, please.

  59. @Gene Su

    “…as fast as me” Still not fast enough my Friend. You should use “I” there instead of “me”.

    • Replies: @Kim
  60. Bliss says:

    Fred Reed wrote:

    The hostility to genetics springs entirely from the fear that Mr. Watson will be proved right–that it will show blacks to be less intelligent than whites.

    Don’t lie. The most well known popularizer of discovering ancestry through genetics is the african-american Dr Henry Louis Gates of PBS:

    There is obviously no hostility to genetics per se, the hostility is directed towards intellectually dishonest racist haters, such as yourself, who are hell bent on turning this science into the latest incarnation of crackpot racial pseudoscience.

    • Agree: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @By-tor
    , @Ragno
  61. Bliss says:

    The growing panic surfaced in the recent stripping of honors from James Watson, co-discoverer of the DNA helix. His sin? He said that the measured gap in intelligence between blacks and whites is genetic.

    What’s so funny about this is the fact that James Watson is actually 16% black. Which puts him somewhere between quadroon and octoroon. He is a black man passing for white:

    https://newafricanmagazine.com/under-the-neem-tree/so-james-watson-is-16-black-himself/

    surprise, surprise – we are told by the 9 December 2007 issue of the British weekly, The Sunday Times – the paper that carried the original interview that reported Dr Watson’s racist views – that Dr Watson has been found to be 16% black himself! Watson had published his DNA genome on the internet, and someone had used the information in it to detect the fact that Watson is 16% black, according to his own DNA. Here is the story, with the headline: “DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought”. “James Watson, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than one per cent.

    The study was made possible when he allowed his genome – the map of all his genes – to be published on the internet in the interests of science. ‘This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,’ said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis. ‘It was very surprising to get this result for Jim.’

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Colin Wright
    , @EH
  62. Plenty of historians and the writer Gore Vidal have said that Abraham Lincoln did not believe blacks were the equal of whites and thought a homeland (in Africa or South America) should be found where they could be settled with the help of the U.S. government. He believed both races would be better off if separated. The American Colonization Society believed that blacks would enjoy more freedom and prosperity if settled in Africa. From 1822 until the Civil War 15,000 freed and free blacks from the U.S. and about 3,000 Afro-Caribbeans settled in Liberia on the West coast of Africa. Liberia declared independence in 1847 and was not recognized by the U.S. until 1862. Perhaps Lincoln’s late recognition of Liberia and his Emancipation Proclamation (January 1863), which freed slaves only in the Confederacy, were done partly with the hope that blacks would see the advantage of emigrating to Liberia.

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @onebornfree
  63. Bliss says:
    @haole

    West Virginia (the 3rd whitest state in the US), where Fred Reed went to school, ranks even lower than Hawaii in school quality:

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-the-best-schools/5335/

    So, do you blame old stock southern whites for the failure of West Virginia’s school system?

    It’s worth pointing out here that public school teachers in the US are overwhelmingly, disproportionately non-hispanic whites. Blacks, Hispanics and Asians are all underrepresented. So you know who to point the finger at when criticizing the public school system, right?

    https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/sass/tables/sass1112_2013314_t1s_001.asp

    • Replies: @haole
    , @haole
    , @Jim Christian
    , @Anon
  64. @kerdasi amaq

    Totally agree with this point. The disease is one of White’s Pathological Altruism. Let’s stop vilifying blacks. Blacks never asked for affirmative action, set-aside programs, welfare, section 8 and all other race based social benefit programs. This was all liberal and conservative Whites, mostly from the Northeast and California that came up with the scattered-brained ideas. Maybe because they were shamed by the Soviets and Europeans about US poverty, ‘racism’ etc. We should not have listened to people who never had the same problem…Now they do and they are paying a price as well.
    Liberals have run into their own contradiction. Will they wake up? I hope so. This country and Europe is losing the White base and majority voice. Expect our children and grandchildren to live in a much more dangerous world. The Chinese with be the rulers of the world and they don’t have any compunction about race.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  65. Bliss says:
    @Truth

    I don’t know there Big Frijole; there were 68 murders in Tijuana the first 9 days of 2019. This is after more than 2500 last year…

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/01/09/tijuana-18-murdered-in-18-hours/

    Murders in Chicago declined by 20% in 2018:

    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-murders-down-20-percent-in-2018-compared-to-last-year-police-say/4382216/

    There were 418 murders in Chicago last year compared to 2508 in Tijuana. That looks even worse for Fred Reed’s duplicitous narrative when you consider that the population of the Chicago metropolitan area is ~5 times that of the Tijuana metropolitan area.

    • Agree: Truth
    • Replies: @Curle
  66. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gene Su

    Mechanisation of agriculture in the Twenties forced Blacks to move north.
    Desegregation in the Fifties meant the end of Black businesses south of theMason-Dixon Line, and forced Blacks to move north.
    Inner cities were where they ended up.

  67. Bliss says:

    Fred bullshits as usual:

    Is it not now obvious, has it not been obvious for a very long time, that blacks cannot function in a technological society?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_astronauts

    https://www.blackenterprise.com/list-of-the-most-influential-blacks-in-technology/

    https://www.theroot.com/call-of-duty-17-top-black-military-officers-1790868526

    http://www.nsbe.org/home.aspx

    https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2015/how-diverse-are-video-gamers-and-the-characters-they-play.html

    Asian-Americans are even more likely to game (81%), leading all other races and ethnicities: African-Americans are the next most likely (71%), followed by non-Hispanic whites (61%) and Hispanics (55%).

    • LOL: JMcG
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  68. haole says:
    @Bliss

    In Hawaii public school teachers are Japanese, mostly. Public school teachers in the greater USA are mostly fat liberal women of several nationalities.

    “So, do you blame old stock southern whites for the failure of West Virginia’s school system?””
    It is debatable that West Virginia is southern, they were with the North in the civil war? Hillbilly is probably a better category.

  69. haole says:
    @Bliss

    Bliss you clever dog, you choose W virginia because it was the only predominately white state with a lower rating than hawaii. New Mexico, louisiana, Missippippi, and the others in the 40s all have a high percentage of non whites. The states with the highest education ratings are the upper midwest, haole to the MAX.

    But Hawaii is near the top of the “NEW AMERICA” states, which is where an Asian state in the NEW America should be.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  70. Bliss says:
    @haole

    you choose W virginia because it was the only predominately white state with a lower rating than hawaii. New Mexico, louisiana, Missippippi, and the others in the 40s all have a high percentage of non whites. The states with the highest education ratings are the upper midwest, haole to the MAX.

    Wrong. And you know it:

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-the-best-schools/5335/

    39. Hawaii
    40 South Carolina
    41 Arkansas
    42 West Virginia
    43 Oregon
    44 Alabama
    45 Mississippi
    46 Nevada
    47 Arizona
    48 Alaska
    49 District of Columbia
    50 Louisiana
    51 New Mexico

    All the states with worse schools than Hawaii (22.2% white) have a higher percentage of whites. West Virginia (92.3% white), Oregon (76.5%) and Arkansas (73.5%) are in the top half of whitest states in the US. Only in New Mexico and District of Columbia are whites a minority.

    https://www.roadsnacks.net/whitest-states-in-america/

    More significantly, of the 10 school systems ranked lower than Hawaii white teachers disproportionately dominate in 9.

    Well over 80% of the 3.6 million full time public school teachers in the US are whites. These are all government employees making comfortable middle class salaries.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  71. TTSSYF says:
    @Gene Su

    Bullying has always gone on in public schools, and if the schools you went to were “lily white”, how could you be bullied by anyone other than whites?

    I, too, was bullied by my fellow whites before my public school was integrated. However, after busing began and blacks appeared…well, it wasn’t verbal bullying we had to worry about as much as it was physical attacks by both male and female blacks.

    • Replies: @Gene Su
    , @Jeff Stryker
  72. TTSSYF says:
    @Scipio Africanus

    White liberals have been blacks’ enablers. They’ve worked hand-in-hand for decades. You and kerdasi amaq can’t really believe that blacks “don’t really demand anything” or never asked for AA, set-aside programs, welfare, etc. They did and still do. Watch cable TV if you doubt me, or witness the riots that pop up every few decades.

    What really saddens me is how our government is actively encouraging blacks and whites to intermarry or cross-breed. I have nothing but contempt for Heidi Klum, Peggy Lipton, and other beautiful white women who could have had any handsome, intelligent white man they wanted and could have perpetuated their beautiful genes but instead chose to breed with black men (and in the case of Heidi Klum, a decidedly unattractive one). I don’t care how musically- or athletically-gifted (e.g., O.J. Simpson) they are. It is my personal opinion that, in all but the rarest of instances, it is a selfish, irresponsible, and destructive act of “breeding down”, made all the worse because it is freely done.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @anonymous
  73. nickels says:

    I’ve had migraines for a few years, slowing my thinking down a bit.
    During this time, I’ve taken a liking to rap music, fried chicken and find myself often thinking about a nice spliff. I now find it enjoyable to beat up strangers on the streetcorner.
    Strange.

  74. macilrae says:

    Irrefutably true.

    I believe many of the more intelligent social warriors who maintain the myth of black intellectual equality do know, in their heart of hearts, that the inequality exists but they find themselves faced with the same question we must all ask ourselves: “If we bring this out into the open – and assert that blacks are upon average inherently less smart, what is that going to do to today’s society?”

    Right now the message sent to blacks is “You are just as smart as the rest of us – you can do as well as any of us – the only reason you’re held back is because of white prejudice.” This, of course, fosters militancy and it actually perpetuates hatred and racism as the blacks then try to redress the inequality – often by breaking the law: taking back what has been ‘stolen’ from them. Responsibility for their predicament is taken entirely off their shoulders and there is never any suggestion that they need to do a thing to redress the balance – such as taking a critical look at the toxic culture which envelops their kids.

    Responding to all this, the rest of the community (of all other ethnicities) returns the resentment – and the racist sentiments. If you look into the Asian communities (both South and East) you’ll discover even more outspoken anti-black racism there than among whites because they, too, are often victims of black crime – and victims, too, of affirmative action.

    However, we need to ponder the question with which I opened – how we handle the fact of black intellectual inequality socially, once it has been generally accepted as fact? Denial of the fact is self-evidently a failing strategy.

  75. Bliss says:
    @TTSSYF

    Such a hypocrite, blaming and shaming white women for race-mixing (in a white male race mixer’s blog) when in fact it is white men who are the biggest race-mixers of all time.

    How do you think mulattoes, mestizos, eurasians came to be in the first place? Who were the fathers of the half-aborigines of Australia? Or of the half-papuans, half-polynesians etc, etc?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  76. @Bliss

    Fred did not go to school in West Virginia, he went to school thirty or forty miles South of DC in Virginia. Where he went to school was loaded to the gills with core algebra, calculus, history, government, probably a modern college education compared to standard issue curricula. And back in the sixties, you didn’t get out of high school without a serious education, even in West-By Gawd.

    Shitty primary school education came much later.

    • Replies: @Truth
  77. “The conclusion will probably be that blacks are in custodial care. If this is not true, tell me why it is not.”

    Considering the number of key elective offices they hold, political jurisdictions they control, the tens of billions (if not trillions) diverted their way, and the way the rest of us kowtow to their many demands, one can only wonder exactly who the custodial classes really are.

  78. Truth says:
    @Jim Christian

    Where he went to school was loaded to the gills with core algebra, calculus, history, government, probably a modern college education compared to standard issue curricula.

    Yeah, and probably almost on the level of what his stepdaughter is getting in Mexico now.

    • Replies: @haole
  79. TTSSYF says:
    @Bliss

    I don’t like that either, but, regardless, I can’t change what people freely do on their own. I can only speak for myself and say I don’t like or respect any white European, male or female, who deliberately mixes with a pure or nearly pure African, whether we’re talking about Obama’s mother, Boris Becker, Heidi Klum, Peggy Lipton, etc. None of those marriages lasted, and, in the case of Nicole Brown-Simpson — well, we know what happened there.

    I’m not sure that white men have been the most guilty of race-mixing. But assuming it’s true, it’s because white Europeans fanned out all over the globe because of their superior technology and did what men have historically done when they invaded another group’s land.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @Anon
  80. haole says:
    @Truth

    True, I have worked in 20 or so different countries and lived outside the USA for 20 years. I was stunned when my colleges in “shitholes” like ecuador and Mexico had better education than mine. The level of english for the kids born since lets say 1980 is very high. So many kids are bilingual. Yes, that is middle class kids going to private schools. Public schools are shitholes in the USA and in the shithole countries.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @turtle
  81. @republic

    In most of his essays Reed puts in a final gratuitous paragraph praising some aspect of Mexican culture, seems that he left it out this time.

    I am sure that this omission will be rectified next time.

    Fred reads comments here and a lot of people have been skewering him for it. I’m hoping against hope that the change is permanent.

  82. KenH says:

    The white man’s burden also applies to hispanics just to a lesser degree. Hispanics have the highest rates of means tested welfare program usage and if those ever disappear their birth rates will plummet and death rates will increase. Say bye-bye to the hispanic population boom and the mythical “hispanic family values” we hear so much about.

    A return to meritocracy would wipe out about 3/4 of the black middle class which is why we’ll never be able to have once since (((they))) will use every ounce of their political, media and economic power to prevent it.

    We’re currently on a trajectory to abolish all professional and educational standards so that blacks and hispanics can reap the benefits. Obama and the (((radical left’s))) quest to have race and gender be the sole two determinants of one’s station in life is closer to realization.

    The tent cities we see in S. Africa filled with whites who were formerly in the middle class but made unemployable because of their race could be coming to America sooner than any of us think.

    At best there will be only feeble opposition to any of this from the cucked and milquetoast establishment/kosher right. They’re unlikely to vigorously oppose any of this as long as portions of the federal budget that their donors, the defense industry and Israel rely don’t get cut.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  83. Gene Su says:
    @TTSSYF

    I have written this on previous blogs on the Unz Review many times before. My point is that the reason why many people think that there is absolutely no Black Crime problem is because most people do not come in contact with underclass blacks. If you grew up in a school that was 90 to 99% white, the trouble makers you will have to deal with will not be black but white. Most “non-black’ children will attend a school that is predominantly white and will have to deal with white punks looking to spit on them or take their lunch money. Heck, you can live in a metropolis like New York City or Los Angeles all your life and never come in contact with the black thug sector. The schools in these cities are very segregated along race and class lines. You would have to have a job that involves dealing with underclass blacks (such as being a policeman or social worker) to know that they are a whole level below underclass whites.

    I’m going to post more in several other responses.

  84. Gene Su says:
    @buckwheat

    One more thing: It’s really wonderful that we have all of this new research concerning the link between intelligence and genetics, but I hear of no project to try to improve the genetic stock of our next generation of children. I know we might be a century or so away from genetic engineering but I saw a lot of specials on 60 Minutes on how different animals are being cloned. I know sooner or later someone is going to try to isolate the gene sequence for cancer susceptibility. An institute might begin some sort of re-sequencing project to lower susceptibility. If James Watson has managed to isolate the gene sequence for intelligence, why won’t he sponsor a project to re- sequence the genes of the next generation of African American children born in the ghetto? Why doesn’t anyone think of inserting some Neanderthal genes into the next generation of African American children to improve their intelligence? It would be more effective and more humane than some of the eugenics projects the US has tried a century ago.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  85. Solution: Round up and deport all blacks/browns/yellows to their origin countries. America was founded and built by us whiteys. It belongs to us. BTW, the Indians, er Native Americans (the feral savage descendants of ancient Siberians) too can go back. That was easy.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  86. By-tor says:
    @Bliss

    Yes, he is a little-known darling of the Ivy League Coast and its PBS millionaire-billionaire donors from the large East Coast cities. The bigoted PC anti-intellectual class is openly hostile to anything and everything that differs from their 1950’s-1960’s make-believe that is constantly being broadcast from the bigoted echo chambers of Hollywood’s News Studios and PBS.

    ” No race on earth has anything to gain by sharing living space with blacks; all have a great deal to lose. In a world in which blacks will soon become the most populous racial group, and begin rapidly radiating out of Africa, the undesirability of blacks will all of a sudden become a very important political consideration.” From a comment thread on unzreview.

  87. @Bliss

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_astronauts

    Ok, the US has sent 339 people into space.

    14 Black astronauts have gone into space and 8 made the program but never launched.
    I will be generous and count all 22 blacks.
    So blacks have made up 6% of US Astronauts.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @republic
  88. Bliss says:
    @Chris Mallory

    So blacks have made up 6% of US Astronauts.

    That’s a higher percentage than Hispanic-Americans, Slavic-Americans, Italian-Americans etc.

    Two African-Americans served as Commander of the Space Shuttle. And one served as Administrator (equivalent of CEO) of NASA.

    Are you actually defending the moron Fred Reed’s claim that “blacks cannot function in a technological society”?

  89. Bliss says:
    @TTSSYF

    I’m not sure that white men have been the most guilty of race-mixing.

    You are an ignoramus then. White european men have race-mixed with every known non-white race, sub-race, ethnicity etc in every nook and cranny of the planet.

    • Replies: @Logan
    , @TTSSYF
  90. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Thinking about it, Europe seems to be attempting to commit suicide — and enjoying increasing success in the endeavor.

    First they carried out World War One. Then they came up with the considerably more destructive World War Two.

    Now they’ve hit upon admitting millions of blacks from Africa. This should prove more destructive still. They’re already very visibly a problem in just about every prosperous state in Europe.

    Which raises an awkward question. If this is what western civilisation has led to is it really such a great thing? Maybe it was at one time but maybe it’s been diseased for a very long time. We’re talking about a civilisation that wants to die.

    It leads to even more awkward questions. If Europeans have higher IQs than non-whites and yet western civilisation has become totally degenerate and suicidal, is high IQ such a good thing? Is it possible that high IQ is not the magic ingredient that creates worthwhile civilisations? Is it possible that moral qualities are also needed, and that these moral qualities have been sadly lacking in Europeans for a very long time?

    • Agree: Stonehands
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @MarkinPNW
    , @pensword
  91. Wally says:
    @buckwheat

    Einstein was a fraud and you bought into the scam.

    Jew IQ is largely a myth established by marketing and media control, starting with the Einstein brand. The myth is necessary to justify and conceal Jewish tribal nepotism as the main factor establishing dominance of a hostile elite in host nations.

    Exposing the Real Albert Einstein
    https://principia-scientific.org/exposing-the-real-albert-einstein

    Albert Einstein was a Fraud
    http://coconutrevival.com/?p=5656
    and:
    Einstein, plagiarist of the century
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_einstein.htm
    and:

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  92. anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    ‘We’ve never attempted to make blacks into fully equal participants in society before. ‘

    Post civil war reconstruction in the American south. Done mainly by puritans to punish southrons. Aparthied South Africa, Haiti etc for international examples

    • Agree: Carroll Price
  93. Curle says:
    @haole

    Approximately 20% of Hawaii’s population is low scoring ethnicities, Polynesian, Hispanic and Black. That’s a higher percent of the population than most high ranking SAT states yet Hawaii ranks 30 in average SAT and is ranked above California. The public schools suck but Hawaii has one of the largest private school systems in the US and those schools tend to be very good; e.g., Iolani and Punahou both schools dominated by Asians.

    • Replies: @haole
  94. anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    ‘Heidi Klum, Peggy Lipton,’

    Not White to begin with.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  95. anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gene Su

    ‘If you grew up in a school that was 90 to 99% white, the trouble makers you will have to deal with will not be black but white’

    I get what you are saying but even still every class troublemaker without exception (I mean the kid who would try to stop other kids learning by arguing with the teacher) was black when I was in school. I went to a fairly White school.

    • Replies: @Gene Su
  96. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Is this another Enabling colored single moms on lifelong welfare generation after generation screed?

    Only idiots want more criminals and affirmative action beneficiaries living on White taxpayers.

  97. Wally says:
    @Gene Su

    Strawman arguments. There will always be problem cases within any race. It’s a question of degrees.
    Your also missing the point that when standards are lowered for dumber blacks & brown others suffer the results.
    I recall having to sit through classes where the most basic ideas, concepts, equations, etc, had to be explained over & over & over again to negroes, often they still never ever ‘got it’.
    Such absurd accommodations hold smarter people back by, waste their time.
    It’s certainly worse today.
    All children see that they can now get away with worsening behavior because blacks and brown have made it such that there are less repercussions for misbehavior.

    Unfortunately, unless something is done soon, it’s the new ‘normal’.

    • Agree: By-tor
  98. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    You must have missed 8 th grade health class. Astounding revelation, only men can make s woman pregnant.

  99. Curle says:
    @Master Gator

    A letter was found in the British archives about ten years ago from Lincoln to the Brits confirming that Lincoln was working to relocate the slaves to Panama as late as 1863. This bombshell confirms contemporaneous stories but has been effectively embargoed by TPTB.

    “As the war progressed, Union policy makers faced increased pressure to develop strategies for how to manage the growing number of slaves who fled to Union lines, were freed by the advancing federal armies or were emancipated by federal legislation, like the two confiscation acts or the abolition of slavery in the nation’s capital and the federal territories.”

    Left out of the above recital regarding ‘management’ of slaves is any mention of what ‘management’ meant. As Donald Livingston points out, management meant keeping the freed negroes out of the North at all cost. Also left out of the standard civil war narrative is any reference to the extreme hostility that northern states exhibited to freed slaves moving north. Northerners were determined to keep blacks out of their states to the greatest extent possible.

  100. @Gene Su

    It is not accurate to say that blacks took over cities built by Whites because the cities are not the same as when occupied by Whites. Whites fled to escape black dysfunction, blacks then destroyed the city and live on our charity among the ruins.

    Take a look at vintage photographs of cities before and after black occupation. Also, blacks do not maintain, develop, or improve areas that they occupy. Their take over of our cities was not a result of their victory but of our surrender.

    I would also add that perhaps you were bullied by Whites in school because of cultural incompatibility. Asian males are quite different in cultural character from White males, and these differences are the grounded in DNA more than environment. I lived in Taiwan and China and saw that White children were very uncomfortable in Chinese schools where they were the only Whites. Rather than complain about it, White parents just accept this as normal and natural and either homeschool or send their kids to outrageously expensive international schools. I wonder why your parents chose to live and raise their child in an environment that was not racially and culturally compatible. Whites in Asian of course are there temporarily, while Asians come to the West as immigrants. I wonder why that is. As a mother of five, I wonder why your parents kept you in an educational environment that was clearly not suitable for you.

    • Replies: @Rex Little
  101. Curle says:
    @Bliss

    There’s an effective war occurring in Tijuana. If the same accounts for the deaths in Chicago TPTB better start reporting on this war and describing its goals and objectives. Most people know what’s driving the violence in Tijuana.

  102. Curle says:
    @Bliss

    He was referring to the collective norm. Any group with an 85 average IQ will struggle producing or manipulating complex things.

  103. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    So you’ve never been to the DMV, social security office, county clerk building permit office, police station, called IRS information lines, never dealt with clerks and principals at public schools ?

    Most black affirmative action jobs are government jobs and Whites deal with them all day every day.

  104. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    The Mexican government cracked down on the criminals stealing gasoline from the pipelines. In revenge the criminals blew up a gas line. 66 dead more than 80 missing.

    • Replies: @Truth
  105. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gene Su

    Good point. The mayors police and governments of our great cities jump to blacks commands. Of course most of the civil servants in our great cities are black.

    The cities rule the country and blacks rule the cities, including the capital

    • Replies: @Gene Su
  106. @Bliss

    A Russian dog was in space before any American people…What is the point?

  107. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    You’ve never been to the old confederate states have you? Just look st the average black and it’s obvious some White man and block woman got together.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    , @TTSSYF
  108. @Gene Su

    I mentioned that there are considerable differences between White males and Asian males. I should have added a concrete example, such as the fact that White males have significantly higher testosterone levels than Asian males which would account for behavioral differences. While these has positive effects for Whites such as increased risk taking and assertiveness, the astronomical levels of testosterone in black males are unmanageable in a civilized society because they result in an almost complete lack of self control.

    Also, if you don’t see that blacks are less intelligent than Whites and Asians, all I have to say is that you must not get out much. Do some volunteer tutoring for example.

    • Agree: TheBoom
  109. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss

    Wallet hub isn’t about test scores and end of the year achievement tests. It’s nostky about percentage of teachers with MAs and PHDs, state of the art science labs swimming pools athletic fields discipline lack of safety and numerous other things that have nothing to do with the actual achievement tests

    California is one of the dumbest state systems in the country. Yet a few high achieving public magnet schools in California are on the list of best public schools in America.

    The only thing that matters is student achievement

  110. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    The local PBS station is running its 10 minute segment about “food insecurity” in Los Angeles County Ca.

    The victims of “ food insecurity” are all pumpkin faced, double chinned pot bellied fat Hispanic Indian kids. The adult activists yapping about “ food insecurity” are all pumpkin faced double chinned pot bellied Hispanics. One picture has an obese 4 year old reaching up to mommy who has a huge pot belly and looks about 7o pounds overweight.

    They are not food insecure. They’re vastly overweight.

  111. @Bliss

    You are frightfully mendacious negroid, Bliss. Those southern states are clearly held down by the ungodly number of negroids in them.

  112. Stevan says:

    Races have evolved over long time and differences between them are likely to have an existential reason.The present situation described in the article is a today’s snapshot of this process. What is going to happen if the races of superior intelligence continue the present course and cause global catastrophe, as is deemed possible I have just read article “Dismantling the Doomsday Machines” by John V. Walsh in the Unz Review. If this occurs and the world reverts to a jungle, the civilised races of today will become inferior in survival skills to the Natives of Africa, Australia ect, What is then going to be considered as intelligence?

  113. @Truth-hammer

    I’m sure Russia wants a bunch of drunk paint-sniffing criminals from US reservations or Asia or wherever they are Native Americans are from.

    From what I can see, Latin America is glad to see some of it surplus populace go.

  114. @Gene Su

    There is a difference between bored WASP bullies in Karate Kid or the low-class white trash Shop rats in CHRISTINE and black felons.

  115. @TTSSYF

    There are a few white thugs like the CLOCKWORK ORANGE character and once in a rare while in a white school there would be a serious beating like the ones depicted in KARATE KID. But not often.

  116. @KenH

    Do whites really believe that blacks and Hispanics would sit around with no welfare and quietly go hungry?

    The crime rate would go up 4000%

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    , @Wally
  117. @Colin Wright

    And these same people, having spent so much of their time around whites (why don’t they ever want to move to South Chicago?) are always convinced “that white people are just as bad, or usually worse!”, because they have experienced interactions with whites from all over the socio-economic and genetic map.

  118. @Bliss

    Are you arguing that “Slavic-Americans” and “Italian-Americans” are not white? Or are you just subdividing whites to make that number, very close to the actual proportion of black males in the US population, look like it’s something special?

    By the way somethin’, never heard of the Talented Tenth?

    • Replies: @Bliss
  119. Logan says:
    @Gene Su

    My experience in school was much like yours. Except that, being white, there was no racial aspect to their bullying. Didn’t make it any more enjoyable..

    There is a common, and somewhat odd, presumption that bullying based on race or “sexual orientation” is somehow infinitely more unacceptable than bullying based on something else.

    Look, it’s pretty obvious that bullies just want to bully. They will focus on whatever aspect of their victim they can to “justify” their bullying. I suspect most “racial” bullying isn’t really about race, but rather just a convenient handle to justify themselves to themselves and each other.

  120. Logan says:
    @Bliss

    Curious. Did you really research the ancestry of all 300+ astronauts?

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    , @Bliss
  121. Logan says:
    @Bliss

    Quite right. Of course, that’s mainly because whites until quite recently ruled almost the entire globe.

    Somalis didn’t mix their race much with Bolivian Indians because they almost never met.

    Historically, males have been more than willing to bed any willing (or often unwilling) female they meet.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  122. Logan says:
    @Gene Su

    The dysfunction among white underclass types detailed in “Hillbilly Elegy” and similar works is actually quite similar to that of underclass blacks. With a glaring exception.

    Much lower rates of violence. Appallachia has appalling rates of illegitimacy, drug addiction, suicide and despair. It doesn’t have all that much violence.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  123. @Gene Su

    You’d have to have a great deal of money to avoid inner-city black and Mestizo thugs completely and live in a city. It is getting more expensive to do so.

    The white underclass is stuck in rural areas because blacks and Mestizos don’t want to live there.

    They will say they like clean air but the reality is that only schools with a 4-H Club are completely safe.

  124. bitcoin says:

    Reed describes part of the problem. It’s the Jewish/White establishment that makes all this possible. It’s their way of hobbling the white male competition and controlling the rest of society using a phony sense of guilt and morality tied to spouting the claim of “racism” every time the issue of black dysfunctionality and inequality is raised. It’s all part of America’s false consciousness about race, history, etc. – a control mechanism. They use this same technique with other claims of homophobia, sexism, etc. etc.

  125. Coming from one who’s addicted to detective movies in which puzzling and mysterious crimes are invariably solved by magic Negroes proves your analysis dead wrong.

  126. @Gene Su

    If James Watson has managed to isolate the gene sequence for intelligence, why won’t he sponsor a project to re- sequence the genes of the next generation of African American children born in the ghetto? Why doesn’t anyone think of inserting some Neanderthal genes into the next generation of African American children to improve their intelligence?

    It’s not that intelligent Negroes aren’t occasionally born in the ghetto, but that the few who are, promptly have it beaten out of them by the ones who aren’t.

    • Replies: @Gene Su
  127. @Logan

    The whites who commit appalling crimes are not dysfunctional.

    They’re either Whitey Bulger type mobsters or high IQ serial killers like Dahmer.

    I’d compare this to the Jewish porn starlet of the Sarah Silverman mold who is staggeringly slutty but smart enough not to get pregnant doing on-camera gang bangs. Blacks and white hillbilly girls get pregnant at 16 because they are lower IQ.

  128. @Logan

    Blacks don’t bully in high school. At 16 they are willing to commit homicide, not just give another student a swirly in the toilets.

  129. @Jeff Stryker

    When I was a kid, I launched a gerbil up to 2000 ft. msl in a clear payload compartment on the nose of an Estes model rocket. The gerbil came down alive via the parachute recovery system on the model.

    The way I see it, the gerbil was lucky he wasn’t sold out of some San Francisco pet store.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbilling

  130. @Anon

    Looking at the average contemporary black under age 30, I’d say it’s more likely some white mudshark got up with a black man.

  131. @Jeff Stryker

    Interesting hypothesis. Now, given the absolute population advantage and the wildly absolute possession of ordinance advantage held by whites over POCs, one has to reckon in some way about the relative testicular advantages of the warring factions and how all of that would play out when the balloon finally goes up.

  132. Truth says:
    @Anon

    Great.

    Now what about the other 2434?

  133. @Logan

    Many of the so called “astronauts” were no more astronauts than passengers on American flight 109 are pilots.

    • Replies: @Truth
  134. The P.C. police gonna’ have Fred in jail over this one.

    My question is why our true rulers(mostly white)allow all the evil socialist programs Fred discusses to permeate our society. Why do they not only turn a blind eye to what is destroying western man, but are the instigators of such things. They absolutely know it will lead to the death of our society and could care less. Could it be it is all about bloodlines and control of the masses? Could it be that they have theirs and that’s all that matters? Could it be they are deathly afraid of a moral, intellectual society that could one day awaken to their scam and toss them from their lofty perch? Could writings such as “The Protocols Of Zion” be for real? Could they really be striving to implement the 10 guidelines inscribed on the Georgia Guidestones? Can man really be this evil?

    Me thinks the answers to all the above questions must be a resounding “yes”.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
    , @Uncle Sam
  135. “A similar though smaller gap is suspected between whites and Latinos. For this there is evidence,and counter-evidence.”

    Kiko just can’t help him self with stuff like this.

    Otherwise a rare sober article from everyone’s favorite expat mestizophiliac.

  136. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:

    “The entropy of a closed system tends to remain the same or to increase”
    yall gots tuh slowdown on the lowdown or get locked down?

  137. padre says:

    Human kind was certain so many times, that it has it all figured out, and found out later, that they were just scratching the surface!Suddenly genetics explains it all!Great white men decided again, that they are superior!First they were measuring the brain, then measuring the scull, now it is definitively (genetically) proven, that they were right al along!Remember when they said atom is the smallest part?

  138. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Longfisher

    not so simple whites in their own nations are being pushed out of positions of wealth and power from above and below.This leaves large numbers of pretty smart guys pissed off.lots of white peoples build civilizations well keeping them going has always been our problem our high individuality always leads to defection and disaffection and civil war white on white war etc.If its not enough for cog elites white that they are destroying the safe space of whites permanently and making common cause with highly tribal others who re only playing nice until they are ready to make their move, they ought to realize that although the few whites allowed into the ruling class is pretty smart they have left vast swaths of smart enough whites out and those whites are quite capable of wiping your little clique out once their hope is exhausted that this is all a mistake

  139. Truth says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    There is no such thing as an “astronaut.” These are silly actors. Anyone who still believes that we live on a spinning ball hurdling 66,600 mph through space is… a bit deluded.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Che Guava
  140. @Johnny Walker Read

    Could it be that the majority of the electorate is women?

  141. @Frau HausMaus

    Asian males are quite different in cultural character from White males, and these differences are the grounded in DNA more than environment.

    DNA heavily influences culture at the group level, but an individual’s culture is shaped by his environment during his formative years.

    I’m acquainted with two brothers, aged 39 and 41, whose parents are Chinese immigrants (born and raised in China, met and married in the US). Growing up, the brothers lived in white neighborhoods and went to white suburban schools. Their wives are white, their friends are white, their business associates are white. Culturally (behavior, speech patterns, etc.), they are indistinguishable from native-born whites.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  142. Che Guava says:

    In the last two years, I was meeting a Dominican-Puerto Rican, raised in NY. A compulsive liar and fantasist, and really stupid.

    Also met a black guy, actually a credit to him, it is interesting that his son looks and behaves like a typical Japanese boy, most of the children of crossed-negroes are very different, and are out of control, or domineering. Perhaps the son is adopted. I don’t know, but he doesn’t look lile half African.

    The father is inttelligent. conversation enjoyable.

  143. Freddy Boy, you have outdone yourself… an excellent article!

    By the way, there might not have been other geniuses in Newtown’s neighborhood but in the Borough Park, New York, New York, every one is a budding Einstein; so who cares if whites are turned into blacks through bewitching rap music, so long long as Lyor Cohen insists upon giving his own brood the benefit of classical music, literature etc.

  144. wayfarer says:

    The press is a gang of cruel faggots. Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits—a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson

    Legacy Media Begins Walking Back Their Covington Sensationalism

    Catholic MAGA Confrontation at Lincoln Memorial

    • Replies: @Anon
  145. @Rex Little

    I feel much safer in Asia than I felt in the US as a young white man starting out in white collar jobs living on the fringes of the barrio and in low-income housing among inner-city blacks and white urban poor.

    I’ve never encountered gangs in Asia but they are a joke compared to the Cholos in the Southwest.

    We read about Duterte’s drug war but I only saw tweakers among AZ rednecks.

    One factor is SIZE. Serious Asian martial artists don’t go out and mug 200 pound white men they could conceivably overpower-they are either in competitions or acting in local films.

    I’m not a big man-5’9 and 195 pounds. However, no Asian has tried to mug me.

  146. onebornfree says: • Website

    Fred Reed said : “What does a pseudo-democracy do when clearly stratified by intellectual capacity?”

    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” H.L. Mencken

    “If x is the population of the United States and y is the degree of imbecility of the average American, then democracy is the theory that x times y is less than y.” H.L. Mencken

    “All of democracy’s axioms “resolve themselves into thundering paradoxes, many amounting to downright contradictions in terms. The mob is competent to rule the rest of us – but it must be rigorously policed itself. There is a government, not of men, but laws – but men are set upon benches to decide finally what the law is and may be.” H.L. Mencken

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @Anon
  147. onebornfree says: • Website

    Fred Reed said: “….What would happen if Section Eight housing were abandoned, Head Start, AFDC, free lunch and breakfasts in inner-city schools, food stamps, and all the rest? I do not recommend doing this–the consequences would be hideous…..”

    You think the consequences would be worse than what we already have, here, right now , as a direct result of these and other [entirely unconstitutional- if you think that mattered anymore], federal scam/programs?

    You’re kidding, right?

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  148. republic says:
    @Chris Mallory

    Last January Black American woman astronaut Jeanette Epps was pulled from a six month tour in the International Space station.

    Would have been the first black women to live on board the ISS.

    Somebody in NASA, maybe also Russians, Europeans, did not want to have a politically selected person on board who was unqualified for the mission.

  149. @Random5499

    I recall reading that only ten percent of African-Ameicans are entirely African in their genetic makeup. Geneally speaking, any “Black” who is any shade of brown is an admixture of genes.

  150. Mulegino1 says:

    You have got to be kidding.

  151. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Truth

    Truth says: “There is no such thing as an “astronaut.” These are silly actors….

    Yup. They’re now called “Astronots” 🙂

    NASA is nothing more than a giant government funded fake movie production operation.

    Public slaves just gotta have more fake movies of moon landings, Mars landings etc. etc. ad infinitum , they can’t get enough of it apparently…..now we even have the Chi-Coms getting in on the act [ they obviously know a good scam when they see one].

    Regards, onebornfree

    • LOL: wayfarer
    • Replies: @Truth
  152. Willem says:

    The word that is missing in Fred’s essay: Class

    As if it doesn’t exist.

    Stratify race by class and the differences between the races disappear

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @silviosilver
  153. Mulegino1 says:

    Yes, Wakanda is real, Neill De Grasse Tyson is the greatest scientific genius (after Albert Einstein, of course) and M.L. King Jr. was the greatest statesman and scholar in American history. Vibranium exists, and is second only to chutzpah as the most powerful mineral in the universe.

    To be a kosher American is to be an absolutely lobotomized slave.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Truth
  154. @onebornfree

    Worse?

    Cannibalism. Robbery goes up 40 times. Raids on farms like Africa. Nonstop prostitution. Economy crashes (Some races are spendthrifts).

    Police overwhelmed. Black police morale crashes; relatives themselves on welfare.

    Guns and no food, what do you think is going to happen?

    Bodies in the street. Women and children and pets roasted in pots.

    Endless firefights in suburbs between whites and starving blacks.

    More people commit serious crimes in order to get into prison where food and medical care is free.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @onebornfree
  155. haole says:
    @Curle

    Iolani and Punahow are private schools, where the asian doctors and dentists send their kids. They let in some hawaiians and hapas to have a football team.

    State by state ranking of education:

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-the-best-schools/5335/

    I cant prove this but I think Hawaii public school standing has risen due to immigration. Our public schools used to be ranked, 30 years ago, in the bottom 10 per cent, with the cotton belt states black states, mississippi, arkansas etc. Now we are ranked above states like New Mexico and Arizona with large latino immigration populations. We are number 39 nationally now instead of number 47 or so in 1990.

    Hawaii is the one of the top colored state in education but below almost all the 90 percent white states except west virginia. Texas, georgia and California are tied with Hawaii for the highest education levels for states with high non white populations.

    Oregon is in the bottom ten also, too many hippies? Educated stoners seem to want government jobs when they turn 30 so, I can only imagine who runs their public schools. Oregon was beat by West virginia hillbillies. Those are the 2 states in the bottom 10 with high white populations.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  156. I don’t think that blacks, apart from individuals, can properly learn any high level European language. Fred implies that US blacks, due to their Afro-centric alienation end up in speaking Ebonics.

    But, there is no proof that most blacks in Brazil speak proper Portuguese, or those in Columbia and Cuba literary Spanish, let alone Haitians nuanced French …

    • Replies: @Truth
  157. @Willem

    Where is you proof of that, Willem? I doubt if you have any.

  158. @Kratoklastes

    Unfortunately breeding by breed standards has also led to a drop in intelligence, along with more pronounced hereditary mental and physical health problems. Incest is standard practice among breeders, although the most responsible ones try to minimize it as much as possible.

    For a human analogy, more responsible breeding gave us the European monarchs of the past few centuries, while backyard breeders gave us rural Appalachia. Neither one is a shining example of maintaining cultural identity through genetic purity. Eventually healthier mutts get the upper hand, because the purebreds are no longer able to compete.

    Nevertheless, dog breeders, members of the veterinary profession such as myself, and even significant portions of the general public are well aware of the tangible benefits of discouraging careless reproduction – despite the health benefits it might bring to the species. Because we cannot care for all of them… and we shouldn’t have to.

    Despite our laudable sentiments and ideological principles, trying to care for and save all the “marginalized populations” is a sure way to fail. Graduating every dog from the shelter, no matter what their “grades,” will certainly cause more violence and more unwanted dogs roaming the streets and filling the houses of perhaps well-intentioned people who lack the ability and resources to RAISE THEM PROPERLY.

    That’s what the average dog pound and the average major city are so similar: crowded, dirty, noisy, rewarding a longterm outlook that lacks concern and involvement, and likely to end in either intentional or indirect euthanasia. Nature herself is a proponent of eugenics, which is probably why so many arrogant humanists do their best to fight and discredit her recommendations at every possible opportunity.

  159. @Mulegino1

    Hey, today is Martin Luther King Day! Throughout my work career (I’m now blessedly retired) I was grateful for King Day – for no other reason that it gave me a day off from work, WITH PAY! But I know that many workers are not nearly so lucky.

  160. Roy says:
    @MBlanc46

    You are conflating culture with lineage, or genetics (much like progressives screaming against “cultural appropriation”). There is no “white” culture. There is Western civilization, a great heritage that dates back to the ancient Greeks, but it isn’t “owned” by anyone. How is Western civilization more related to whites from backwater Ukraine than to the denizens of Hong Kong? Are blacks who have lived within Western civilization for 400 years less connected to it than whites from Armenia or Croatia? A civilization is something one is inculcated in, not something that runs through one’s veins.

  161. Anon[631] • Disclaimer says:

    Somebody hasn’t been to Boston, but writes BS about it. The thought that you “drive around in Boston for hours” disproves the rest. Unlike all other cities in that list, Boston failed to integrate suburbs. Boston has a small core of historic streets, where driving will drive you nuts, and a equally small periphery. Dorchester, which has half of the city’s population, takes 10-15 minutes to cross. What “hours”?

    Then, right out of Boston, it’s Somerville, Cambridge, Brookline, Milton, and other places, whiter than Boston.

    Perhaps if you drive in Reed’s imaginary Boston, that may be different.

  162. Truth says:
    @onebornfree

    Exactly. And who knows what the fuck a building full of Ivy League physicists is working on, with all that tax money left over after the film productions. I’m not sure I want to.

  163. Truth says:
    @Mulegino1

    Vibranium exists, and is second only to chutzpah as the most powerful mineral in the universe.

    Unless someone puts your brain tissue in that discussion, I can’t argue.

  164. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Worse?

    Cannibalism. Robbery goes up 40 times. Raids on farms like Africa. Nonstop prostitution. Economy crashes (Some races are spendthrifts).

    Police overwhelmed. Black police morale crashes; relatives themselves on welfare.

    Guns and no food, what do you think is going to happen?

    Bodies in the street. Women and children and pets roasted in pots.

    Endless firefights in suburbs between whites and starving blacks.

    More people commit serious crimes in order to get into prison where food and medical care is free.

    Hey, but enough about another Canadian team winning the Stanley Cup…

  165. Truth says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I don’t think that blacks, apart from individuals, can properly learn any high level European language. Fred implies that US blacks, due to their Afro-centric alienation end up in speaking Ebonics.

    With all possible respect, Old Sport, there should be a comma after “alienation,” and the “in” before “ebonics,” is superfluous.

  166. @Logan

    ‘…There is a common, and somewhat odd, presumption that bullying based on race or “sexual orientation” is somehow infinitely more unacceptable than bullying based on something else…’

    It is worse.

    It’s a cold, cruel world out there. Part of growing up is working out to not become the victim, the target of the bullies. It can be done, too.

    …but not if you’re being bullied on account of your race. What are you supposed to do about that?

    • Replies: @Logan
  167. Anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lawyer Guy

    It’s not entirely clear who fucks up on doctors’ exams. Seeing all those inbreed faces on any Harvard Medical School website, all those glorious resumes and titles, but no exam scores whatsoever, makes me think Ashkenazis have a great share of low scores. Perhaps a monopoly, just like their monopoly on suffering.

    Witness the outcry when Internal Medicine association introduced periodic tests of fitness, throughout a doctor’s career. None of the outraged are blacks. There’s no moaning about racism. It’s only Ashkenazis complaining.

    Witness the outcry over electronic health records, which forces doctors to write their notes on time, and prevents them from “doctoring” them later. Again, no blacks, no Asians, only Jewish moans.

    In fact, a group of Harvard medical students wrote a petition asking for the cancelation of Step 2 Clinical Skills. Take a wild guess why. My bet is on incompetence and laziness. Also, guess where can you find their MCAT scores. Right, nowhere.

    Y’all must be stupid to think that dumbing down is there to benefit the blacks. Who makes most money of of medicine, and stands to lose that in only objective tests are in place? Who aces standardized exams, and could benefit from their use? Follow the money.

    • Agree: Che Guava
    • Replies: @Anon
  168. @Bliss

    “James Watson is actually 16% black…He is a black man passing for white.” Really?

    I find it laughable and contemptable that many ignorant whites cling to their stone age obsession that one drop of black blood makes one black. My grandfather emigrated from Poland, so I’ll never bother with a DNA test as I might find out that I’m 16% Jewish. Would that make me a Jew? Of course, since I was circumcised as a baby I must be part Jew after all – as are most American men, apparently.

  169. Uncle Sam says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    The answer to your question is very simple: they are Jews. The Jews consider the white race the biggest obstacle to their quest for world domination under their New World Order rubric.

    In order to accomplish that the white race must be subjugated. They obviously can’t exterminate hundreds of millions of white. The next best thing, then, is to mongrelize it with the nonwhite races, especially the blacks and the browns.

    That is what “open borders” is all about and also one of the major reasons the Democrat party engages in “identify politics.” And may I add parenthetically (or perhaps not so parenthetically) also the reason that white women are encouraged to have dogs and cats rather than having children. That along with abortion reduces the white population.

    So you see all the strands fit together

  170. When you tell the truth, you better have one foot on the stirrup.

    Spanish saying

  171. @haole

    ‘Oregon is in the bottom ten also, too many hippies? Educated stoners seem to want government jobs when they turn 30 so, I can only imagine who runs their public schools. Oregon was beat by West virginia hillbillies. Those are the 2 states in the bottom 10 with high white populations.’

    We’re very nice — but not too bright. Loggers and their offspring.

    To be more charitable, high educational achievement doesn’t exactly seem to be a priority. I didn’t go to school here, but I imagine actually graduating from high school is seen as good enough.

    It’s all vaguely similar to West Virginia, when you think about it. A past involving a great deal of uneducated labor — only loggers instead of miners.

  172. @Bliss

    ‘…What’s so funny about this is the fact that James Watson is actually 16% black…16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European…’

    It’s interesting how the latter statement came to be transformed into the former. As far as I can see, they’re two entirely different claims.

  173. Yeah, get that home dna test and measure your ‘African’ descent White folk:

    But Fred; if White people are so friggin smart, how come they can’t grasp this simple equation concerning culture (Plato) + science (quantum mechanics) = a culture of scientific dolts:

    A: “The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato” -Alfred North Whitehead

    +

    B: ”The [Plato’s] doctrine that the world is made up of objects whose existence is independent of human consciousness turns out to be in conflict with quantum mechanics and with facts established by experiment” -theoretical physicist Bernard d’Espagnat

    =

    C: nouns or millennia destructive process ‘objectifying’ language, projecting individual identity onto pieces of one’s surroundings, or dis-integrating environment; a result of the isolated projection of self or (ego) individuation by Western humanity exclusive of integration to a sentient, aware surrounding, where all environment had been/should be, social.

    lots of head scratching & well, duh, well duh… bring it on ‘white folk’ because ‘C’ should pose a follow-on question or ‘a total misapprehension of reality’ does exactly what to the genetics = intelligence ‘science’ ???

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  174. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @wayfarer

    Freerepublic.com is really stepping up for the Covington boys, just as freerepublic news articles and commenters stepped up for the Duke lacrosse team Howard Beach Whitesand the victim of the Jena high school black thugs.
    The boys are under 18 thus minors and there are all sorts of laws protecting minors.

    There are even rumors the parents are thinking of defamation suits. The so called Vietnam veteran Nathan Phillips was born in 1955. US troops left in 1973 when he would have been in high school. He’s done this before; confronting a White person to start a verbal fight and claim to have been abused.
    The Covington Catholic boys were on an anti abortion demonstration.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
    , @anarchyst
  175. @Willem

    Er, no, they certainly don’t.

  176. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    America is not stratified by intellectual capacity Due to affirmative action, education, government, and the media are in the hands of affirmative action morons.

  177. Agent76 says:

    Feb 27, 2016 Why Your Nation’s IQ Matters

    Over the last several decades, economists and psychologists have documented the many ways in which an individual’s IQ matters. But, research suggests that a nation’s IQ matters so much more.

  178. wayfarer says:
    @Anon

    Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

    “Truth About ‘MAGA Kids’ and the Native Americans”

  179. Sean says:

    The hostility to genetics springs entirely from the fear that Mr. Watson will be proved right–that it will show blacks to be less intelligent than whites.

    It would also show the elite to be more intelligent that the white middle class to be far more intelligent than the white working class average. But of course everyone already knows these things and that they are long proven.

    As a white man my inclination is to favor color-blindness, equality of opportunity, and advancement by merit. If East Asian kids outperform white kids academically by a wide margin, which they do, then they should get into Harvard and the white kids should not.

    What is and what ought to be are two different things. White gentile kids are already too rare at Harvard and blacks’s AA places aren’t enough so the only ones who it is feasible to replace Asians with are Jews. Put it out of your mind The Jews simply will not allow white gentiles such a clear implementation of their avowed principles , and everyone understands those principles are a cover for what is really going on.

  180. Art says:

    A storm, methinks, is just over the horizon: The genetics of intelligence, perhaps of behavior. Geneticists know that intelligence is largely genetic.

    “perhaps of behavior” – maybe the genetics of behavior is more important to gage and scale, then is the genetics of intelligence.

    Maybe the genetics of love should be measured? Don’t we need an LQ?

    A major portion of the success of Western culture has to do with the genetics of cooperation. The emotional capacity for love, empathy, hope, and integrity are essential traits of the genetic makeup of Western Christian culture.

    It appears that East Asia has more genetic intelligence that does European intelligence. Yet the Euro West has advanced more. Maybe the cooperation genetics of the West has more barring on its success, then does its IQ.

    Think Peace — Art

  181. anon[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Some jews (german or sephardic ones) can come to their senses right now and apply to be part of the white race. They have a genetic choice since 50% of their DNA is Flemish, Italian, etc., mostly on the maternal-mitochondrial side. Linguistically they’ve been speaking old German (yiddish) or Spanish (ladino) for over a thousand years. Their foods are North European: herring, potatoes, all that deli stuff which has nothing to do with the Levant and even that gefilte (german word) fish, which is actually quenelles de poisson of French origin. So what the good jews have to do is drop that fiction in their minds that plagues them namely that they are not really European, drop the marxism and the slavish devotion to negro causes, the chosen people myth and then they can truly be white people. Don’t forget all those blue and hazel eyes.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  182. renfro says:

    I am bored with the IQ race thing. Who cares really if black IQ is less than whites. What is even the point of 5 million essays on this? It accomplishes nothing.

    Its time to start thinking differently.
    First , judge people by their behavior and ‘usefulness’.
    Make it a ‘rule’, the prevailing meme when children begin education.
    Let everyone gravitate to positions according to their usefulness, ….bank president or park ranger, doctor or utility meter reader, CEO or truck driver, teacher or janitor.
    Set a minimum wage where even the unskilled can afford a decent existence and make it keep up with inflation.
    That would take some of the heat off the haves and have nots, discrimination claims, etc..
    Many people will accept their work status if it gives them a at least decent living standard .
    For people who are more ambitious and want more they can improve their usefulness and value to get more.

    • Replies: @wagelaborer
  183. Cleburne says:

    Fred, you outdid yourself. I salute you brother.

    One can’t but ponder the more unbiased descriptions of slavery by honest historians like Genovese, Fogelman and Phillips. A positive utopia compared to New Orleans, Trenton, etc etc etc , by every measure other than the purchase of shitty consumer goods. That was a social order than worked compared to these times. No wonder they want to destroy memory of it.

  184. Okechukwu says:

    The hostility to genetics springs entirely from the fear that Mr. Watson will be proved right–that it will show blacks to be less intelligent than whites.

    No. The hostility stems from the fact that Watson makes his claims in the absence of any scientific evidence. If he had said that whites are genetically inferior to blacks in intelligence, there would’ve been similar revulsion. One notion is no more or less censurable than the other.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  185. Another good, sweeping article by Fred. Lincoln was right (blacks should be sent back to Africa or given their own state or two), the Jews are wrong (well, right in the sense that what they’re achieving is precisely what they set out to achieve, fully and gleefully conscious of the total horror which has ensued).
    But what the fuck I be sayin? Shiiiiiiiiiiit.

  186. White trash dislike when they are developing RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS and RATIONALITY… it’s a sad humanships.

  187. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    Jeff Stryker says: “Worse? Cannibalism. Robbery goes up 40 times. Raids on farms like Africa. Nonstop prostitution. Economy crashes (Some races are spendthrifts).Police overwhelmed. Black police morale crashes; relatives themselves on welfare……”

    So because all the parasites might go nuts if their benefits get cut off, all of the systems that reward systemic parasitism should continue indefinitely – because you/we’re scared of them all, right?

    So how do you think the millions of parasites will react when a state [eg US] stops being able to play “the goose that lays the golden egg” game, and all the parasitical programs that caused its bankruptcy, and that they all therefor depend on, cause its final financial collapse?

    All of those parasites are going to be “$hit out of luck” then, seems to me.

    Or are they all going to go “quietly into the night” then, in your opinion?

    Regards

  188. Che Guava says:
    @Truth

    It is interesting that you really believe that the Moon landings were a fake, I say it at times as a joke (O.J. Simpson in Capricorn 1, before he murdered his wife, and well before his sports souvenir adventure).

    So, do you really believe in a static and geocentric solar system, or the depictions of the mediaeval orerries? They are very beautiful, and accurately model planetary and lunar motion. The idea of the crystalline celestial spheres, also very beautiful, though seemingly false.

    However, the Earth revolves around the Sun, I suppose the rate you cite is correct, can’t be bothered to check right now.

    To me, the interesting thing is how, by cosmic accident or God’s intention, we have two bodies of visually near-equal size (last night’s full moon was pretty spectacular) in sight. The close visual sizes make for many legends, also the rare solar eclipse. The Moon is also tidally locked in its orbit, so is always showing us the same face.

    No other planet has the same situation. Despite the indirect means of finding exoplanets, none seem to be candidates.

    Sometimes, I can’t help but imagine that God set it up just so, as a set of puzzles to make us monkeys think a little more.

    • Agree: Simply Simon
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Anon
    , @Ahem
  189. Art says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Most very high IQ types do not represent the best of the human breed – they have unusual brains. Most are somewhere on the Asbergers spectrum.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  190. TTSSYF says:
    @Anon

    I see it quite often, and not just in the South. I saw it frequently when I was in Cleveland, OH, for example. I still don’t like it, and I don’t like that it seems to be being actively promoted by our government, ad agencies, entertainment industry, etc.

  191. TTSSYF says:
    @anonymous

    White enough, I would say, to not be mistaken for East Asian, subSaharan African, or Amerindian. Of course, I’m aware of the fact that many on this website would refer to Peggy Lipton as (((Peggy Lipton))).

  192. TTSSYF says:
    @Bliss

    I didn’t dispute it, and I offered a good reason for it, which you did not acknowledge.

  193. @republic

    I had a black (male) orthopedic surgeon go into my knee for “exploratory surgery” recently. What a mistake! He seemed competent through our few exams previous to the surgery. My knee problem is three or four times what it was before the surgery. Still a problem over year later.

    I will NEVER allow myself to be operated on by a black surgeon again. Never.

  194. CCR says:

    All of you guys who are praising this article need to read the fine print. This is a reprint. Whenever a Fred Reed article is printed that people like it is a reprint.

  195. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Roy

    A civilization is something one is inculcated in, not something that runs through one’s veins.

    .

    A very unpopular view around these parts. But there’s a lot of truth in it.

    Most white people today have no connection whatsoever to the great traditions of western civilisation. They don’t know anything about western civilisation and they don’t care about it. That’s why white societies have gone down the toilet. They’ve abandoned western civilisation.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    , @Roy
  196. Bliss says:
    @Logan

    Curious. Did you really research the ancestry of all 300+ astronauts?

    1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Americans

    Nine Italian Americans, including a woman, had gone into space as astronauts

    2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Polish_Americans

    There are 4 Polish-American astronauts. Half of all Slavic-Americans are Poles. You can also look at Slavic names in the list of astronauts.

    3. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hispanic_astronauts

    There are a total of 12 Hispanic-American astronauts. Only 2 of those were born in the United States.

    • Replies: @By-tor
  197. EugeneGur says:

    Geneticists know that intelligence is largely genetic.

    They know nothing of the sort. Some mental traits are likely to have a significant genetic component but no respectable neurobiologist would pronounce something as dogmatic as this for a simple reason that this is a very hard, if not impossible, thing to prove.

    That intelligence is genetic should be obvious regardless of technical knowledge. Any dog breeder will tell you that Border Collies are brighter than beagles,

    Obvious is often deceiving. Human intelligence is somewhat different from that of even a smartest dog, at least, in some people.

    We are accustomed now to the intractable gap between blacks and whites. The gap appears on all tests of cognitive capacity and academic achievement: all of the IQ tests, the SATs, GREs, MCATs, LSATs, ACT, National Merit, AFQT, and others.

    First, who told you these test have much to do with human intelligence? What exactly they measure is uncertain, but if they do measure anything, it’d be a tiniest fraction and the most elementary function of human cognitive ability. These function BTW are the most likely to have a more significant genetic contribution.

    Second, 40-50 years ago there was a similar gap in tests between men and women. It was attributed to a “gender gap”, with genetics being obviously the same, hormones, inherent female inability to abstract thinking and all sorts of crap like this. Now, if anything, the trend is the opposite. So, never underestimate the power of nurture, in a broad sense, when it comes to human cognition.

    All this talk about how the genetic differences doom the races is stupid. Among other things, races are fluid – they aren’t set in stone. They change and their genetic makeup changes dues to migration and interbreeding, the factors likely to play a large roles in years to come. Education also changes things. If the US bothered to set up a half-way decent school system instead of instigating wars all over the world, things might’ve been different even today.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Wally
  198. anarchyst says:
    @Anon

    Although it is difficult to bring lawsuits against the “mainstream media” in the USA, this case of the Covington students may be an exception. “Public figures” have lesser protections against media malpractice and have to prove “malice”.
    The Covington students are not “public figures”, and as such should have an easier time prevailing in a lawsuit.
    Maybe they should also sue the Catholic school system for “jumping the gun” and making false accusations as well.
    Nathan Phillips can be prosecuted under “stolen valor” laws. He is a “professional protester as he was sighted at other demonstrations as well.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  199. Bliss says:
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    are you just subdividing whites to make that number, very close to the actual proportion of black males in the US population, look like it’s something special?

    It makes more sense to compare African-Americans to other large minorities in America, including ethnic white minorities, than to all whites.

    If you do that you will find that African-Americans have been more successful than most minorities in America in many diverse fields of endeavor.

  200. Truth says:
    @Che Guava

    The earth does not revolve, Psalm 104:5

    And OJ did not kill anyone. It’s all theatre.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Anon
  201. @Okechukwu

    The hostility stems from the fact that Watson makes his claims in the absence of any scientific evidence.

    In fact, there is an abundance of such evidence.

    Moreover, even if the evidence weren’t so abundant, for non-blacks, it would still make eminent prudent sense to assume blacks were genetically inferior, since the cost of that assumption being wrong are much less than the costs of incorrectly assuming blacks are equal.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  202. @EugeneGur

    Second, 40-50 years ago there was a similar gap in tests between men and women. It was attributed to a “gender gap”,

    The point is race is real, and it matters. And if whites are to blamed for the shortcomings of blacks, then it’s entirely reasonable to point to the true causes of racial disparities – genetic racial differences.

    It has been known for decades that “more education” does next to nothing to increase intelligence.

    The time for fanciful racial fictions is over. Somehow or other, we will have to overcome the obfuscations thrown up by slimy race-deniers and embrace racial reality.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @EugeneGur
  203. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Master Gator

    Master Gator says: “Plenty of historians and the writer Gore Vidal have said that Abraham Lincoln did not believe blacks were the equal of whites and thought a homeland (in Africa or South America) should be found where they could be settled with the help of the U.S. government. He believed both races would be better off if separated.”

    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people . . . . I as much as any man am in favor of the superior position assigned to the white race.” ~ Abraham Lincoln, First Lincoln-Douglas Debate, Ottawa, Illinois, Sept. 18, 1858, in The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln vol.3, pp. 145-146.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @turtle
  204. onebornfree says: • Website
    @haole

    haole says: “Public schools are shitholes in the USA and in the shithole countries.”

    Exactly.

    All government funded education, at any level [primary through university] is a scam- just like governments themselves. Brainwashing factories to instill in unsuspecting young minds an unquestioning glorification of the state.

    The Six Functions of Secondary Education- John Taylor Gatto:

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Gene Su
    , @Anon
  205. Okechukwu says:
    @silviosilver

    In fact, there is an abundance of such evidence.

    Okay, let’s have the evidence. And before you go there, Pioneer Fund “data” isn’t evidence.

    Moreover, even if the evidence weren’t so abundant, for non-blacks, it would still make eminent prudent sense to assume blacks were genetically inferior,

    It’s much more likely that blacks are genetically superior than the alternative.

    As a matter of fact:

    Proportionally More Deleterious Genetic Variation In European than in African Populations

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2923434/

    This is what’s known as hard scientific evidence. You, on the other hand, are engaged in wishing, hoping and praying.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  206. How did all these black people get here, to the US, anyway? We all know, but it is politically incorrect to point it out. Europeans are genetically too lazy to go out and plant and pick cotton, so they imported a bunch of Africans to do it for them. And now, here we are, descendants of the lazy and the dull, all living together in a society that has advanced to the point of not needing as much human labor for production.
    For some reason, Fred and his acolytes on this thread (who have varying degrees of intellect and ability to communicate through writing) seem to believe that there should be an IQ test required to qualify for the basics of life, like food and shelter.

    That is a bizarre belief. What about stupid white people? Do we starve them also? Will there be an IQ test for different levels of food quality? Asians get the caviar and steaks, white people get Golden Corral, and black people get K rations?

    If technological competence is the test, what about older people unable to figure out their cellphones, while young people, white and black, are skilled at using them? Should Grandma be kicked into the cold for not having the tech skills to be able to download and share porn?

    If European descendants are going to claim European civilization as their exclusive property, (while oddly adding Middle Eastern and North African accomplishments to the list) do they also have to claim the witch hunts, the Inquisitions, the Star Chamber, piracy, the endless religious wars which claimed the lives of white people throughout the centuries, until the Europeans learned how to sail and turned to priracy, genocide and looting of non-European peoples? It seems only right, I think. Why should people be able to pick and choose their heritage?
    European descendants would be a lot smarter today, if their ancestors hadn’t had the habit of burning at the stake of the more intelligent among them as heretics. The genetic selection seemed to favor the violent, not the intelligent, in my reading of European history. What happened to the Neanderthals? Just saying……

    • Agree: Okechukwu
  207. Pft says:

    The Bell Curve shows you cant judge an individual based on race. Way too much overlap. Plenty of dumb whites and plenty of smart blacks.

    Poverty also correlates with intelligence. As a group, poor whites are dumber than whites from more affluent families. How much is genetic and how much is environmental is anyones guess, some of both I guess

  208. wayfarer says:

    Cultural Marxism can be a controversial term – some assert there’s no such thing, and others use the term as a catch-all for anything they see as undermining society. In short, cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world. Cultural Marxism is often linked to an insistence upon political correctness, multiculturalism, and perpetual attacks on the foundations of culture: the nuclear family, marriage, patriotism, traditional morality, law and order, etc. Cultural Marxists are assumed to be committed to establishing economic Marxism, in which case their cultural attacks are a necessary preparation for their ultimate goal.

    source: https://www.gotquestions.org/cultural-Marxism.html

    “Left’s beef with white people, explained.”

  209. Wally says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    said:
    “Do whites really believe that blacks and Hispanics would sit around with no welfare and quietly go hungry?
    The crime rate would go up 4000%”

    Then they’ll go to jail sooner rather than later.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Gene Su
  210. Wally says:
    @EugeneGur

    You are still in denial of observable facts we see.

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see:
    massive murder rates
    massive crime in general
    degraded property
    massive disease, especially STDs
    massive drug & alcohol abuse
    general filth, squalor
    massive birthrates
    inability / unwillingness to support their own children
    massive youth pregnancies rates
    massive school dropout rates
    incredibly low IQs & test scores
    violence as a way of life
    fathers nowhere to be found

  211. Wally says:
    @Pft

    “The Bell Curve shows you cant judge an individual based on race. Way too much overlap. Plenty of dumb whites and plenty of smart blacks.”

    No that much “overlap”. Spare us.

    Of course for any race there is always going be the exceptions, hence the word ‘exception’.

    The bottom line is that overwhelmingly, blacks have much lower IQs than whites and lower IQs than all the other races.

    The observable facts make that plain as day.

    No amount of your tortured leftist agenda can change it.

  212. wagelaborer says: • Website
    @renfro

    You have nailed it. A living wage and full employment is what is needed. Everyone should do what they are best at, not be forced into a brutal competition for limited jobs.

    As Abe Lincoln pointed out “As long as one workingman is unemployed, the hours of labor are too long.”

  213. @Truth

    TRUTH

    There is a quite a bit of evidence that he didn’t kill them.

    Why didn’t he have blood on his clothes?

    Why wasn’t his DNA found on gloved that did not fit him?

    Why wasn’t there blood IN his car if he had killed to people?

    Ron Goldman was first degree black belt whose shoes indicated he fought back. OJ had no marks on him at all.

    The evidence indicates that Simpson walked around the murder scene, might have known who did it, but himself did not stab them.

    It is MORE likely Simpson paid somebody else or two people to kill them.

    • Replies: @Truth
  214. @dfordoom

    At least whites know how to spell the fucking word civilization, you monosyllabic mouth breathing moron.

  215. @Wally

    There are not enough jails to imprison every single person just as most of the LA rioters did not go to jail.

    Police could not control that situation and they would be unable to control and LA riot every day.

    America would be one great big prison if they could, which is not feasible.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  216. Gene Su says:
    @Carroll Price

    It’s not that intelligent Negroes aren’t occasionally born in the ghetto, but that the few who are, promptly have it beaten out of them by the ones who aren’t.

    As I said before, I believe that “intelligence” is a function not just of genetics but also of culture. I am not a race realist. I am a cultural realist. Sadly, it will take centuries for African culture to evolve to European standards.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  217. You idiots. You keep talking about these “smarter” white men. Fine. But the joke is, and it is a funny one–YOU are not among these “smarter” white men. You are a bunch of imbeciles. I assure you that there are plenty of blacks who are smarter than you. There are plenty of bricks smarter than you.

    It just gets my goat that you, personally, want to take credit for Einstein or something.

    Newsflash. You are not Einstein. You’re not even Joe Schmoe. You, personally, are dumb. And so you have no right taking pride in the white race or manhood. YOU are not the white race. YOU are not “manhood.” You didn’t invent all that stuff.

    You are a joke.

    • Agree: Okechukwu
    • LOL: apollonian
    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Colin Wright
  218. Gene Su says:
    @Wally

    Maybe then we should build a wall around every black city and province, tell the inhabitants that they no longer are bound by the laws of the US (but also can no longer receive any of the privileges of being an American citizen… like welfare), and that they can govern themselves however they wish. The Black Panthers and Nation of Islam want a separate black nation with the USA. These walls might be more desired than the one along the Mexican border. I wonder how that would work out.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @jeff stryker
  219. Gene Su says:
    @Anon

    The mayors police and governments of our great cities jump to blacks commands. Of course most of the civil servants in our great cities are black.

    Intelligence is not limited to being able to do difficult math problems. Part of being an educated, intelligent person is knowing how to deal with other people, how to present yourself to an audience, and how to work with large institutions (such as governments). Blacks might have low literacy rates and might be horrid at math, but they sure know how to deal with people and institutions. Asian students are stereotyped as being socially awkward. Maybe blacks aren’t so dumb after all. I guess your definition of “intelligence” will depend on what you think is important to be competent at in life.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  220. Gene Su says:
    @onebornfree

    John Taylor Gatto … RIP.
    May your work be remembered decades from now and start a new revolution in how we educate our young.

  221. Gene Su says:
    @anonymous

    But most kids will not deal with black punks. They will deal with white ones. Do you know why all those Jewish parents wanted the public schools that their kids attended to be integrated? It had nothing to do with having a timeless grudge against the “goyim”. The reason was that their Jewish children were being bullied in school by white non-Jews and they naively, foolishly thought that blacks will protect their children from being bullied. White Americans shouldn’t feel guilty all the time but they should be aware of how they can make enemies with people they come in contact with.

    Ironically, I wanted to write more on MLK Day as I have off from work. This seems to be such an appropriate subject for this day.

  222. anarchyst says:

    In the spirit of Robert E. Lee’s birthday, I submit the following corrections to the racial spoils record:
    There is much more to the “Emmett Till” story that is not widely known. Of course, killing him made him into a “martyr” of the black “civil-rights” movement but–it is not generally known that Emmett Till was a strapping young man of about 160 lbs.–NOT a “little boy” as some media types tried to portray him as. He was a known womanizer and attempted to take his cocky “Chicago ways” in dealing with women to the Deep South. He was sent to live with relatives in the South because his Chicago relatives could not handle him. He had a “cocky attitude” and bragged about “getting it on” with white women–not a good idea in the South. . . According to published accounts, Mr. Till did not just “whistle” at a white woman, but grabbed, manhandled and fondled a married white woman. In Southern culture, this was, and still is, the ultimate form of disrespect. Despite Mr. Till’s relatives’ attempts to spirit him “out of town” to avoid retribution by the woman’s relatives and townspeople, his cocky attitude “got in the way”, similar to the way that “young master Trayvon’s” attitude got him killed. Despite being given numerous “chances” to apologize for his behavior, he was defiant to the end. IF he had apologized for his behavior, he would still be alive today. In fact, one of his killers was a black man.
    It is interesting to note that Emmett Till’s father was executed by the U S military for multiple rapes. Maybe “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” . . .

    Rosa Parks was not the “ordinary” black woman that so-called historians made her to be. She was an organizer for the NAACP and was “planted” in order to advance the cause of black “civil-rights” to which she was successful.
    Approximately a year previous to Rosa Parks’ “bus ride” and refusal to vacate her seat, a REAL ordinary black woman did the same thing. This black woman received NO publicity or support from the NAACP or other black “civil-rights” organizations. You see, she was an unmarried black woman with children. According to the black civil-rights crowd, this would not do. They wanted someone who was “squeaky clean” without any “baggage”. In fact, the “white guy” sitting behind her was part of the “set-up”. He was a UPI reporter, contracted to “stage” the event…not only that, in the photo there is no one else on the bus. Ms. Parks could have sat wherever she wanted.
    Hence, Rosa Parks made (fabricated) history . . .

    Martin Luther (Michael) King was well-known for frequenting prostitutes, beating and abusing them while exclaiming that he “finally felt like a white man”. His own associates have stated as such. He also plagiarized his college papers and doctoral thesis. Of course, this was overlooked because of his status. King was also a communist.

    Jesse Jackson used to brag to his associates on how he would spit in the food of white patrons of the restaurant he worked at.

    There are many more fabrications of history that were used to lend “legitimacy” to the so-called “civil-rights” movement . . .

    More to come . . .

  223. There’s a very simple retort to this race IQ nonsense: If whites are so smart, why have they created a culture that shits on them?

    It’s because smarts don’t count when balls are lacking. And the technological society that Europeans created and that temporarily gave them advantage has long since robbed them of virility. Vigorous cultures don’t live in terror of offending others. They terrify all those who might otherwise give them offense.

    Fred says blacks don’t function in technological societies.

    That depends on how you look at it.

    Tech society has turned whites into groveling high-IQ pussies dominated by women too “intelligent” to have replacement-level numbers of children. A sterile, castrated, dying race.

    Because black males remain relatively feral, blacks are able to extort tribute. Whites accommodate them out of fear but rationalize grovelling as proof of their own finer moral sensibility. That’s really what “liberalism” is about: turning cowardice into virtue.

    So maybe blacks are not making contributions to particle physics but they are able to live off the people who are. Call that whatever you will: parasitism, extortionism, or anything else. It’s still ecologically functional.

    If whites are increasingly at a disadvantage in the very societies they created, they have only themselves to blame. High IQ apparently did not guarantee their enduring dominance. Isn’t that in itself evidence that measures of “intelligence” do not measure anything worth measuring?

    In fact, since Darwinism looks at outcomes exclusively, a Darwinian argument could be made that high IQ is maladaptive under certain conditions. If lower-IQ blacks can intimidate higher-IQ whites into granting them all manner of “undeserved” benefits, that must indicate that IQ by itself confers no competitive advantage. “Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”

    James Watson is a brilliant biochemist but a cultural nerd, not because he asserts that “intelligence” (as measured by IQ) is genetic, but because he attributes a significance to that fact that it cannot support. He would have been better advised to look for a genetic marker for courage. Clearly, contemporary whites are deficient in that one.

  224. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    When I say he didn’t kill anyone, I mean it was a play. A bunch of actors doing an intricate and expensive script. nobody died, his marriage was a sham to begin with.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  225. turtle says:
    @haole

    Public schools are shitholes in the USA

    Not all of them.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Alamos_High_School

    I graduated from high school in Albuquerque, New Mexico many years ago.
    Three classmates went to Stanford, one to Princeton, etc.,etc.
    The top math student in our class, a girl, National Merit Scholar, scored perfect 800 SAT and a full ride to Rice.
    As an undergrad at MIT, I had no difficulty competing with classmates from fancy East Coast schools, or anywhere else, for that matter.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @haole
  226. @Truth

    “Marriage was a sham”

    OJ seemed most interested in getting his kids out of a house where their mother was sleeping with any man who would give her cocaine and participating in orgies downstairs with other coke heads.

    The problem was that it is so hard for a man to get his children out of a bad situation if the woman wants joint custody-even if their mother is using mad cocaine and sleeping with various lowlifes in their presence, which is what was going on at Nicole’s apartment.

    Ron Goldman was a gigolo. He lived off bored housewives alimony. Sooner or later, he might have run into a bad situation with one’s husband.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Colin Wright
    , @Truth
  227. By-tor says:
    @Bliss

    Wikipedia is for those whose must write something for inner city high school while on the playground before class, and then hope that the teacher has not read it before just as plagiarized. Not that it would matter at all in the Affirmative Action States of America. US blacks cannot pass the upper tier flight school exams with sufficient scores that demonstrate mastery for the ISS. It was true in the 1960’s for the Apollo missions, and it is still true today.

  228. DB Cooper says:
    @turtle

    Were you there during the times of WWII? During those days I suspect a large population of the students in Los Alamos High School are children of the scientists working on the bomb in Los Alamos. The demographic make up was very unique there.

    • Replies: @turtle
  229. Biff says:
    @obwandiyag

    You didn’t invent all that stuff.

    I invented the sky hook, and took an early retirement in paradise, so there’s that.

  230. turtle says:
    @onebornfree

    The quote from 1858 Lincoln-Douglas debate ought to be cast in bronze and the plaque affixed prominently to the Temple of Father Abraham in D.C. (District of Criminals).

  231. @Ancien Regime

    Tech society has turned whites into groveling high-IQ pussies dominated by women too “intelligent” to have replacement-level numbers of children. A sterile, castrated, dying race.

    Because black males remain relatively feral, blacks are able to extort tribute. Whites accommodate them out of fear but rationalize grovelling as proof of their own finer moral sensibility. That’s really what “liberalism” is about: turning cowardice into virtue.

    How do you explain East Asians who have even higher IQ not only successful materialistically but have enough racial asabiyah both in the west and back home in Asia? They seemed to have used that as an asset as it should

    What about the dot indians? They aren’t even that bright (except a few) but cunning and focused and (now) have a lot of lobbying backup.

    Does high IQ automatically translate to cowardice? I don’t think so. Whites have become enamored to what I would call a morbid death obsessed culture which has to be cured the only way I see fit. Returning to traditional patriarchy and religion. That is the only thing that can save us now. We (most of us) are beyond zucked, addled with too much porn and liquor without the will to survive forget about fighting for what is ours

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  232. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    Supposedly someone is archiving all the tweets against the boys. Not only are the boys not public figures but they are minors. Sandmann didn’t say s word to professional Indian Phillips.

    I think I’ll write s letter to the school and every *^~’* catholic bishop in Ky pointing out

    1. Catholic Church is against abortion no discussion like women priests divorce etc

    2 catholic school sent those defenseless minors to a city that hates men Whites and Catholics as proven by the recent Kavanaugh and other judicial hearings

    3 what were the chaperones doing?

    So why should Catholics support the church when the church won’t even support catholic school children?

  233. turtle says:
    @DB Cooper

    I was born in 1949.
    Los Alamos was, and is, a unique place.
    However, my intended point was that sweeping generalizations about any population generally results in fallacious conclusions. Statewide “rankings,” such as the one cited, are meaningless.

    Albuquerque, where I spent most of my youth, was designated a “federally impacted area” due to the large U.S. military presence, which meant large subsidies to Albuquerque Public Schools from Uncle Sam, which in turn meant that the public schools in Albuquerque, at least at that time, were quite excellent.

    Someone who grew up in a smaller and poorer community with a generally uneducated adult population would necessarily have a much different experience. That description would fit many rural communities in Northern New Mexico, unfortunately.

    If you would like another example, check out the writings of Victor Davis Hanson.
    Among many other things, he has written about the enormous contrasts between Palo Alto, where he is affiliated with the Hoover Institution, and Selma, where he lives on the family farm.

  234. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Nicole, like the first wife had full custody. OJ never asked for full or joint custody. He was not interested in getting his kids out of a cocaine sex orgy house . His house was far more a sex orgy house than hers ever was.

    His business travels would have made custody difficult even if he wanted to play daddy house keeper instead of celebrity, major stud and player he was very violent with Nicole as verified by police reports pictures of Nicole’s bruises and the incident where police observed him pounding Nicole’s car with a baseball bat

    The pictures of her bruises the DV police reports and the baseball bat incident would have prevented OJ or any man from having custody
    BECAUSE people who beat their spouses almost always beat their children as well as the spouse At least that’s the opinion of family court judges

    Because of your incessant sneering at American Whites, I doubt you are White at all.

    You’re just jealous because you couldn’t make it in America or marry a beauty like Nicole.

    You read too many tabloids.

    Goldman wasn’t a gigolo. OJ used plenty of coke himself and screwed many more women than Nicole screwed men.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  235. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    The jury did aquit him so the case is settled. Nothing to argue about. Case settled. So you’ve been reading Miles Mathis I assume.

    • Replies: @Truth
  236. @obwandiyag

    ‘You idiots. You keep talking about these “smarter” white men. Fine. But the joke is, and it is a funny one–YOU are not among these “smarter” white men. You are a bunch of imbeciles…’

    Damn. There you go again.

  237. @Jeff Stryker

    ‘“Marriage was a sham”

    OJ seemed most interested in getting his kids out of a house where their mother was sleeping with any man who would give her cocaine and participating in orgies downstairs with other coke heads…’

    I dunno. If a man marries an eighteen year old girl — as Nicole was when OJ picked her up — he has a certain responsibility for how she turns out. Plus, cutting off her head is not an appropriate response to just about anything — particularly if they are already separated.

    Finally, as a black, OJ had no business touching a white woman in the first place.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Truth
  238. Truth says:
    @Gene Su

    Yeah, we’ll get started working on those walls…right after the one on the border is built.

  239. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    Some of the things said were in and of themselves proof of malice. Note that the NYSlimes and even CNN are backing off the 2 minute hate presumably on advice of counsel.

    I’ve been plaintiff and respondent so I’m not naive about the legal system.
    It would be so good if the boys and their parents win something against the mad dog attackers. Some of the parents own businesses so the attacks on their businesses would be the monetary damages.

  240. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Geoffrey, I don’t think you are understanding me, but I will try again. There was, in essence, no trial, no marriage, no murders. All a sham. OK, Nicole, the Brown families, Judge Ito, etc. were in essence, all actors.

    If you see it on the news, it is scripted, as is The Sopranos, Desperate Housewives, Hawaii 5-0. or any other television “drama.” It has a beginning, a middle and an end and is predetermined.

    Until you understand this you cannot get much else.

  241. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ancien Regime

    Great post, I totally agree. There is something very wrong with Whites.

  242. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    Correction; American public schools and colleges don’t glorify the American state. Public schools and colleges vilify and demonize America and it’s people.

    • Replies: @Rex Little
  243. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    There’s a site Miles Mathis, that claims everything that hits the national news is theater scripted and produced by the CIA to distract the news people from something the CIA is doing.

    Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman and their families never existed. The crew and passengers on the 9/11 planes are detained for life in a gulag somewhere

    It interesting, like a Cold War thriller.

    • Replies: @Truth
  244. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The Jewish Dr thing is a mid 20th century thing that disappeared with affirmative action. Jews are White and suffer the same discrimination in med school applicants as other Whites.

  245. @Ancien Regime

    If whites are so smart, why are they more afflicted with Opoid abuse, out-of-wedlock pregnancy, petty crime and general whiggerdom than Jews or Asians.

    Answer: The IQ deviation between the average white and Jews or Asians near to that as whites and blacks.

    Italians and Russian criminals at least MAKE MONEY from their rackets. All that the average redneck white does is end up being traded for candy bars by blacks in jail.

    Even the so-called Aryan Brotherhood which gets some respect in prison cannot make the sort of money that Italian and Russian syndicates do. At best, they own some tattoo parlors on the bricks and a bike repair shop. They cannot kill union officials and get away with it like Italians did to Jimmy Hoffa.

    Whites have neither the primitivism and brute force of blacks, Sicilians and Hispanics or the cunning and intelligence of Jews and Asians. They are median in every which way. Not as tough as the former, not as cunning or smart as the latter.

    This then begs the question of what white can actually RUN. Obviously when it comes to the streets where brute force rules the roost, blacks and Hispanics will prevail. In terms of under-the-table cunning and sometimes raw IQ, Asians and Jews seem to have the white beat.

    • Replies: @FvS
    , @Leon Haller
  246. @Okechukwu

    Okay, let’s have the evidence. And before you go there, Pioneer Fund “data” isn’t evidence.

    I’m not obliged to provide you with anything.

    The evidence doesn’t require the imprimatur of a resentment-ridden, race-denying, anti-white negroid like you.

    The evidence is there and it’s abundant and – unlike you – I’m happy for people to evaluate it for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

    This is what’s known as hard scientific evidence. You, on the other hand, are engaged in wishing, hoping and praying.

    Oh, I’m quite familiar with this technique. It’s called throwing enough shit against the wall in the expectation that some of it will stick. I suppose when all you’ve got at your disposal is anti-racist pseudoscience, there’s isn’t much else you can do, is there.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  247. @wagelaborer

    For some reason, Fred and his acolytes on this thread (who have varying degrees of intellect and ability to communicate through writing) seem to believe that there should be an IQ test required to qualify for the basics of life, like food and shelter.

    You’re jumping the gun a little bit. The main reason to cite racial differences is to point out the real reason that blacks have so much comparative difficulty in providing those things for themselves – cognitive and behavioral genetic racial differences – and to refute the false reasons repeatedly claimed by deceitful or deluded leftards – “white racism.”

    In the long run, it would indeed be a good idea to select some criteria for limiting the procreative rights of people who struggle to provide themselves and their offspring the “basics of life” without reliance upon government assistance – simply to prevent the problem from being endlessly perpetuated from one generation to the next. That’s pretty basic logic, when you think about it.

  248. @Pft

    As a group, poor whites are dumber than whites from more affluent families.

    But the data demonstrates they’re also smarter than blacks from more affluent families.

  249. @Gene Su

    Blacks might have low literacy rates and might be horrid at math, but they sure know how to deal with people and institutions.

    Oh yeah, of course, that’s what everyone says about blacks: “These blacks, you know, they may not be the sharpest tools in the shed, but I’ll tell you, they’re so damn civil, they’re so easy to get along with, they’re so understanding, they’re just a pleasure to be around.”

    Gene, I’m sorry about your high school experiences. But in case you weren’t aware, you actually do have the option of getting over it. You’re certainly not going to change the past by being a mendacious, anti-white asshole, and sucking up to blacks who resent your Chinese ass every bit as much as whites ever did.

  250. @Gene Su

    Black leaders complain enough about white flight, how do you think they would react to walls? And middle-class blacks whose livelihood depends upon servicing whites outside the inner-city would also protest.

    More riots.

    Black military would go along with a wall with Mexico. There is no love lost between either group. But would they follow orders to build a wall around their own relatives?

    Every theory fantasists come up with like “sending them back to Africa” (Which African country wants a huge underclass) or “separate countries” (Blacks don’t control the food supply, forestry, ranching, mining, oil in the rural US needed to run a country) is just that…fantasy.

  251. @wagelaborer

    Idiotic. Problem with blacks is that they are destructive & virtually a disaster for any other race in contact with them (or themselves). Shallow moralizing can’t alter the fact that it as West which changed the world, from democracy, heliocentrism and mathematics to all modern sciences, wash machines, antibiotics, refrigerators, cars, lasers & airplanes.

    Africans not only didn’t create anything worth mentioning on the global scale; they were too lazy & dumb to count how many people they killed in most of their wars (for instance, Zulu empire wars killed 1-2 million people, probably; on the other hand, ca. 50,000 witches were burned during witch hunt era.).

    All this shows stupidity of quasi-moral indictment of Western civilization because most people, historically, perished in Asia’s wars & famines: http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm#20worst
    Africans simply started breeding in excess due to Western hygiene & feeding. Other than that, they would have been more or less at the same level as in last 2000 years: illiterate, without agriculture, domesticated animals, without cities, roads, sewerage & anything sustainable.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  252. TTSSYF says:
    @silviosilver

    Ayn Rand said that a person could immediately raise his/her IQ by 10 points by making a conscious decision to think rationally. I think there is a certain amount of truth to this, but it requires that the person be somewhat humble and honestly confront their limitations.

  253. TTSSYF says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    We don’t have to “bring anything” on, especially in response to such incoherent writing that’s rife with improperly-constructed sentences and poor (or missing) punctuation.

  254. aasd says:

    One steals and destroys all cultures he comes across and then thinks I am better than everyone else.

    The white race is in existence today because of the humility of Black people. Read your history. Of course black people were thanked for their help by deceit and death.

    Blacks in America have a problem which is lack of exposure. A brain is a brain. Use it work it expand it. you can be all you can be. I have met some dump white people, some dumb black people.

    If the whites are so cleaver why then do you accept to self culling. WW1 and WW2.. think bout it. and most white men are now so feminine it beggars belief.

    Its like saying only black men can play sports..wrong.

  255. Roy says:
    @dfordoom

    Civilization is first and foremost an inheritance. Anybody can share in it, regardless of whether one is from the original family or not. An inheritance can also be squandered.

  256. @Anon

    The woman was sort of low-class.

  257. @Colin Wright

    When you are as wealthy as OJ Simpson, it is hard to for people to stop you from attracting white women.

    Particularly if they are working class waitresses who can be millionairesses overnight.

    My memory is spotty on the case but there was a good deal of iffy evidence. Nobody saw him do it. A 47 year old man with bad knees and arthritis overpowered a 25 year old black belt and personal trainer. OJ was not drenched in blood. His car had no blood inside it. The glove did not fit.

    OJ had not a single mark on him.

    I always suspected that he hired other thugs to do it and then went over to take satisfaction in seeing his ex-wife dead. At the scene but not the killer.

  258. @Pft

    POOR WHITES & ENVIRONMENT

    1) Most poor whites are from rural areas with a lousy economy and no connections. No well-placed uncle is going to get them a job because there is no industry.

    2) Most poor whites are the children of poor parents.

    3) White poor urban underclass get pummeled by blacks in public school. Tortured even.

    4) Drugs are prevalent in poor white areas. Kids start smoking pot at 11 or 12 years old. At 14 it is meth. By 18 they are full-fledged junkies.

    5) Poor whites have children young. This is why evangelical Christians are always broke. At 20 or 21 they are parents. They marry young and have to take any job they can get. Jews and Asians and WASPS marry at 30.

    6) Poor whites live in near third-world conditions. You are not going to be a Rhodes scholar when you eat TV dinners and junk food every day because your parents are poor.

    7) Poor whites seem to have kids every time they screw. They are extraordinarily fecund.

    8) Petty sex offenders prowl poor white areas. It is a sexual hothouse of molestation, teen promiscuity, adult female prostitution, pedophiles. Kids get molested.

    9) Poor whites who manage to say out of jail, off drugs and with no dependents often have no money to leave the place they are born. They simply don’t have the gas money.

    10) Poor whites are Anglo-Celtic and the emphasis on individualism means they don’t have support networks like Italians or Jews or Asians. Anglo film heroes are always loners like Wayne or Eastwood.

    • Replies: @Swithin64
    , @FvS
  259. Truth says:
    @Colin Wright

    Finally, as a black, OJ had no business touching a white woman in the first place.

    Well, too bad you didn’t live in Beverly Hills while they were married, I’m sure you would have taken every opportunity to tell him that.

  260. Swithin64 says:

    What a load of racist small-minded rubbish

  261. Swithin64 says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The poor are the result of the exploitation by the rich mainly white billionaires like trump etc has nothing to do with colour all our sadly are exploited exactly the same which is why socialism is the only true answer

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  262. FvS says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    This then begs the question of what white can actually RUN.

    The biggest organized crime syndicate of all…the U.S. government (along with a bunch of Jewish subversives). Only retards get into street level organized crime and risk the long prison sentences.

  263. haole says:
    @turtle

    Los alamos high school, so the government school for the gov scientist’s kids? Yes I suppose there are exceptions that prove the rule that government schooling sucks.

  264. wayfarer says:

    Southern Poverty Law Center: “The incident involving students from Covington Catholic is harassment, but unfortunately not surprising. The racist rhetoric coming from our politicians normalizes hate across the country and in our classrooms.”

    source: http://archive.is/828HR , https://www.splcenter.org/

    Covington High School Fiasco Continues – SPLC Refuses to Apologize

  265. FvS says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Whites’ greatest mistake? Thinking Jews are white.

    • Agree: Haxo Angmark
  266. EugeneGur says:
    @silviosilver

    It has been known for decades that “more education” does next to nothing to increase intelligence.

    I don’t know who came up with that idiotic notion but it’s certainly not scientific. It’s just what’s passed and still passes for education is nothing of the sort. The right kind of education is the very foundation of human intelligence.

    The point is race is real, and it matters.

    Of course, it is but that is not the point. So is gender and so is individuality, and so what? The Maasai people, who are among the tallest in the world, and the 4 feel-tall African pygmies belong to the same black race. Would you consider them genetically uniform in any respect? These racial generalizations are stupid in the extreme.

    Besides, the American Blacks, whom the fuss is all about, aren’t exactly black genetically, for the lily white slave owners made a not insignificant contribution to their genetic makeup.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  267. Salcio says:

    Why shall we value intelligence so high ?
    Is being a hard working, honest man with an average IQ something one should be ashamed of ?
    A few years spent in academia would convince anybody that one can have high IQ and be evil at the same time.
    Or, hard to argue that people employed on Wall Street have very high IQ on average, but what they do is detrimental to society at large.
    So, why shall we value IQ so high and ignore person character ?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  268. Raxotic says:
    @Kratoklastes

    >killing the shit puppies is a bad thing and should never be policy.

    We’ve moved past this. Now we sterilize the dogs that will not be kept for breeding and there’s no reason we shouldn’t do this with people. Sub 80IQ should be sterilized, that’s not even debatable. The real issue is who is going to do it. Obviously the state. And, that, is your problem, keeping the state in line.

    It is possible, but dangerous.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @The Scalpel
  269. peterAUS says:
    @dfordoom

    Is it possible that high IQ is not the magic ingredient that creates worthwhile civilisations? Is it possible that moral qualities are also needed, and that these moral qualities have been sadly lacking in Europeans for a very long time?

    Yep.

  270. lol.com says:

    Just check any Top 100 med school website, and tell us how many non-Jews you find. While you are at it, see how many Chinese and Korean (presumably smart and numerous) you see. You probably live in a shithole where Jewish doctors don’t want to work, and overestimate your neighborhood.

    Not addressing my points on MCAT, USMLE, ABIM, or EHR shows you are out of your depth.

  271. Okechukwu says:
    @silviosilver

    The evidence doesn’t require the imprimatur of a resentment-ridden, race-denying, anti-white negroid like you.

    Just as I said, you have nothing. Your “evidence” is life-affirming claptrap for your fellow morons in white nationalist echo-chambers. But when you step out of that comfort zone or when you run into someone like me, you’re exposed for the fraud you are.

    The evidence is there and it’s abundant and – unlike you – I’m happy for people to evaluate it for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

    Yeah, sure thing. Of course, if they draw a conclusion discordant with your delusional worldview you’ll call them “resentment-ridden, race-denying, anti-white blah blah blah.”

    Oh, I’m quite familiar with this technique. It’s called throwing enough shit against the wall in the expectation that some of it will stick.

    That’s an excellent definition of the racist pseudoscience you are trying to pass off as real. It’s called pseudoscience for a reason.

  272. Okechukwu says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Arguably the dumbest post on the thread, which speaks volumes in a cesspool like Unz that tends to aggregate some of the dumbest people on the Internet.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    , @Jeff Stryker
  273. By-tor says:
    @Okechukwu

    In 10,000 years, ‘westernized’ and sub-Saharan Africans made no published nor patented contributions to: railroads and steam engines, modern medicine, flight, industrial production, large-scale farming and animal husbandry, scientific research ( other than GW Carver’s peanut extractions there is nothing at all ), the automobile and its evolution, heavy trucks and earth-moving machinery, steam turbines, petroleum distillates and their extraction, mining, mining safety, communications- including the telephone, radio, radar, sonar, fiber optic cable, satellites, antennas, television, computers and chip design, modern housing and building construction and building codes, hydroelectric dams and nuclear technology, civil engineering, road construction and its codes, sewerage, space flight and rocket design, etc. Maybe, Wikipedia can give you an Afro high-five and reach-around.

    • Troll: Okechukwu
  274. MarkinPNW says:
    @dfordoom

    Yup, High IQ without moral qualities just leads to tribal warfare with technology; “…we have the Maxim and they have not!”

    Or WW1 and 2, nuclear weapons, cruise missiles, drones, etc.

  275. @Art

    Most very high IQ types do not represent the best of the human breed – they have unusual brains.

    I agree: as with pretty much every natural characteristic, there is a ‘sweet spot’ range which is ideal – even for characteristics we view as positive (height, muscularity, intelligence, beauty).

    Past a relatively narrow range, both height and muscularity become disadvantageous the the individual; I would argue that beauty and intelligence continue to offer excess returns to the individual, but not to “the tribe” (however defined).

    ‘Excess beauty’ causes resources (and effort) of the most-productive (those in the +1.1-1.5σ IQ range) to be diverted from productive endeavours, towards pursuit of the excessively beautiful. The social costs are pretty slight – a bit of wasted effort and a very slight dumbing-down (because the excessively beautiful have no incentive to develop non-physical human capital).

    Returns to ‘excess intelligence’ seem to shift markedly past some point at which there is a genuine qualitative difference between the individual and the herd. The smarter the person, the more introspective they are, and the less they are interested in hamster wheels and displays for the tribe; I’m not quite smart enough to actually know how it feels, but I know people who are and I have some idea of the internal tension they experience.

    In the past, folks like this could get a half-decent office at a university and spend their life writing on a blackboard (or a whiteboard); from time to time something interesting emerged, but mostly not – but it kept them out of the way and occupied.

    Nowadays, universities are hostile to intelligence, and extremely hostile to ‘extreme’ intelligence. There are some pockets – mathematics, physics, chemistry – where academic life is still tolerable for the time being, but those fields require the very smart person to be deeply interested in the field.

    “Aspergers” is psychobabble – so much so that the psychocharlatans voluntarily abandoned the term.

    It used to mean one of two things:
    ① a stupid child whose parents want an excuse (i.e., the latest version of dyslexia/ADD/ADHD); or
    ② an individual who is objectively clever, but who has nothing but obvious contempt for psychocharlatans.

    Nowadays they call ① ‘autism spectrum’, and ② ‘oppositional defiant disorder’. ODD is also the go-to excuse for parents of badly-raised, but not objectively stupid, children.

    • Replies: @Art
  276. Truth says:
    @Anon

    Never heard of him but I will look him up.

  277. dfordoom says: • Website
    @LostHopeless

    Does high IQ automatically translate to cowardice? I don’t think so.

    Of course it doesn’t automatically translate to cowardice. But it does make it easier to rationalise away cowardice. And it makes it much easier to rationalise away all the other failings of our diseased western culture.

    People of average IQ can see that our society is going down the toilet. High IQ people in the WeSt for the most part can’t see it because they live in a world of theories and they believe their theories rather than believe in reality. That’s likely to be largely a failing in our western culture rather than an inherent fault in high IQ people but a high IQ does seem to make people prone to becoming detached from reality.

    How do you explain East Asians who have even higher IQ not only successful materialistically but have enough racial asabiyah both in the west and back home in Asia?

    East Asians have, to an even greater extent than Europeans, ceased to bred. They have voted for national, ethnic and cultural extinction. They aren’t going to have a future. There aren’t going to be enough of them to have a future. They have adopted the western death cults of secularism and capitalism.

    Whites have become enamored to what I would call a morbid death obsessed culture which has to be cured the only way I see fit. Returning to traditional patriarchy and religion.

    I agree but I can’t see it happening. Maybe we really do need an infusion of healthier genes.

    • Replies: @LostHopeless
  278. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Salcio

    So, why shall we value IQ so high and ignore person character ?

    Fetishising IQ is a good way to avoid facing up to unpleasant truths, such as our lack of morals and our lack of courage. Our western societies are in decline not because of a lack of IQ but mostly because of a lack of morals.

    • Replies: @Ragno
  279. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Raxotic

    Sub 80IQ should be sterilized, that’s not even debatable. The real issue is who is going to do it. Obviously the state.

    Great idea. What could possibly go wrong? I’m surprised that hasn’t been already been tried.

  280. It was. The Americans in the Mid-South did it. England did it. India tried to do it by offering free radios.

    Circa the twenties.

    Many women from the upper-class spearheaded the movement.

  281. @Jeff Stryker

    “There are not enough jails to imprison every single person…”

    So,what you really meant to say is that slavery is effective and served a purpose?

  282. @Okechukwu

    Nigerians cannot accuse others of using the internet for nefarious purposes.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  283. In 1860 most American whites – north and south – figured blacks were stupid and cowardly. In 1864 100,000 were armed and did well. Definitions of ‘intelligence’ is the Party Line of class. Not so long ago the Irish were bog-trogging sub-humans. The U.S was filled with in-bred, clay eating, hookworm infected white trash. Remember the movie Deliverance? Not so long ago. Don’t even start about Mexicans, Chinese, Italians.

    • Replies: @By-tor
  284. @Pft

    It’s not anyone’s guess – it’s settled science. There have been multiple studies done on identical twins separated at birth. There’s no correlation between SES and IQ. Heritability accounts for 60-80% of the variance in IQ, depending on age (heritability goes up as you age). There have even been a handful of cases where one identical twin is reared in a lower-income home while the other is reared in a wealthy home. No correlation between IQ and SES. (The environmental variation comes from non-shared environment).

    You can read all the social science on this subject or you can just look around. Across time and space the races are pretty consistent in their behavioral differences. I’m on the HBD right precisely because I grew up on the border of a Black neighborhood and went to half-Black schools. Individual exceptions aside, Blacks have the same group characteristics everywhere. Seattle to Miami. Brazil to Canada. Even missionaries to Africa have remarked on how surprised they are to see the similarities between Blacks in America and Africa.

    On a side note I see the same thing with Jews. My best friend in college was a Jew that never went to Synagogue and had no Jewish friends growing up. He still developed a stereotypical Jewish personality. East Asians/Mongoloids are more subtle, but if you’ve ever met an Asian adopted at birth by Whites you’ll see the same thing – they’re still fundamentally Asian.

  285. MBlanc46 says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s a place that I’d really like to see. I’ll cop to finding Japanese women exceptionally attractive.

  286. MBlanc46 says:
    @Roy

    White people created it. Not all white people. But only white people. The West is Europe and the European diaspora.

    • Replies: @haole
    , @Roy
  287. haole says:
    @MBlanc46

    I tell people Hawaii is culturally western.

    1. we speak a european language or a version of one.
    2. We are mostly in some fashion Christian.
    3. Our system of government is from europe or the USA.

    Western culturally can include latin America and the phillipines, the edges of the western world get a little blurry. Genetically Hawaii is something like 20 percent white and about a quarter maybe are hapas, so 50 percent have white blood.

    • Replies: @FvS
    , @MBlanc46
  288. @EugeneGur

    Of course, it is but that is not the point.

    Oh no, it very, very, very much is the point. It’s the point because it explains the true source of racial disparities. It’s the point because the political mainstream has persevered in abject denial of its truth for decades, and unless confronted will do so for decades more (until it finally destroys everything).

  289. @Okechukwu

    And yet, the world continues to look like what you’d predict if race, IQ and behavior were genetically influenced, hahaha.

    Anyway, just fyi, my political inspirations are identitarian, not narrowly IQ-based. Blacks could be equal or superior, but they’d still belong to a completely incompatible identity group, and I’d still want to separate from you.

    If blacks are as superior as you claim, you should be happy to separate from an inferior race like mine. You could happily go ahead and build Wakanda without interference from us subhumans.

  290. @Swithin64

    Poor whites do not want socialism for the following reasons-

    1) More of the underclass will get their tax money.

    2) Their guns will be seized and this is an issue when you are poor and live in a bad neighborhood. You might need a gun.

    3) They dislike big government.

    Wealthy and middle-class whites have the Springer perception. They view the poor whites’ ignorance with amusement, more than anything else. Ignorant poor white people do things that are funny. COPS and SPRINGER attest to this.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  291. Art says:
    @Kratoklastes

    I would argue that beauty and intelligence continue to offer excess returns to the individual, but not to “the tribe”

    I am currently reading a book “The Evolution of Beauty” by Richard O. Prum. “How Darwin’s Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World and Us”

    It makes your point the chasing beauty does not necessarily advance the species. There is much more.

    Nowadays they call ① ‘autism spectrum’, and ② ‘oppositional defiant disorder’. ODD is also the go-to excuse for parents of badly-raised, but not objectively stupid, children.

    I do not know the current lingo – but I very much believe that autism and dyslexia are real. That they are manifestation of minds being wired differently. That among those people are many great thinkers and minds.

    Art

  292. @dfordoom

    East Asians have, to an even greater extent than Europeans, ceased to bred. They have voted for national, ethnic and cultural extinction. They aren’t going to have a future. There aren’t going to be enough of them to have a future. They have adopted the western death cults of secularism and capitalism.

    In China the Han comes first, last and in the middle. The ONLY trouble making minorities there are the far fetched regions of tibet and Xinjiang that got absorbed into the Chinese expansionist empire but still harbor dreams of independence (fat chance in hell that’ll happen but still they stupidly agitate backed by the (((CIA))) ). The Chinese don’t give a rat’s ass about what the west tells them to (why should they? Our (((leaders))) have been busy committing genocide abroad on a scale far larger than they have for quite a few decades now). China’s racial policies are a wet dream for most WNs everywhere (without the big brother communist crap they peddle of course). They are not even letting the Han Christians and the Han Muslims [their racial brethren] have it easy. There are talks of sinicizing these faiths! Even though they are heavily regulated as it is and barred from CPC membership. How is that being defeatist to a Han nationalist?

    India, “putatively” a democracy with equal rights, has savage and bloody ethnic and religious riots with regularity featuring all the savage third world realities of blood, gore and rapine from time to time; with nominal interference from the government. That way they let their racial, ethnic and other minorities know who the boss is in that country. Since unlike the Chinese they cannot put race and religion into the law (although that is changing) they have their own back channel thugs like the BLM and Antifa who are used as foot soldiers doing the dirty work while the government can pretend it lost control. Hairy tactic but it works.

    Ditto for the Pakis. One upping the Indians, they do away with the added pretense of “equality” and have put it in their law. Not that I am saying we should follow them as some kind of a model, but its a fact.

    Morality aside, how does this translate to ethnic and cultural extinction? Not a chance in hell will these people be race replaced in the next 50 years (assuming there isn’t a real holocaust started by the usual suspects destroying the entire globe). They are not bothered by the dying west’s calls for secularism.

    Capitalism on the other hand, they’ve been more accepting to. Look I don’t to get started with the libertarians on this forum about “real capitalism” and “free markets” but let us end with saying they’ve adopted the “pretense” of capitalism just like we a century ago

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  293. Roy says:
    @MBlanc46

    Sure, that’s true, but it doesn’t means any “ownership”. We have been entrusted with the great inheritance of Western culture, and it is open for all to share. I mean, Condoleezza Rice and Francis Fukuyama are probably more “Western” than a pop-culture-binging party girl from Leeds, right?

    • Replies: @ia
  294. @Anon

    American public schools and colleges don’t glorify the American state. Public schools and colleges vilify and demonize America and it’s people.

    Seems to me they do both.

  295. pensword says:
    @dfordoom

    Is it possible that moral qualities are also needed, and that these moral qualities have been sadly lacking in Europeans for a very long time?

    Intelligence is not synonymous with wisdom. The devil is always in the details because it’s harder to hide in plain sight.

  296. By-tor says:
    @Ned Ludlam

    You stated that, “In 1864, 100,000 ( negroes ) were armed and did well”.

    Where was this in American ‘military’ history- ever?

  297. @Longfisher

    Not so sure you are right. Go to a school in a diverse area. The kids are split into study groups by pushing desks together. 6 groups of 4 was the norm at the school I worked at. 1 smart kid with 3 idiot study mates. The smart kids did all the work which was no challenge for them at all. No one learned anything but the stupid liberal principle was happy all the kids passed. Schools are not places where smart kids are allowed to soar. They are places that seek to dumb our kids down to the lowest common denominator.

  298. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    Poor whites do not want socialism for the following reasons……….

    3) They dislike big government.

    Do they really?

  299. dfordoom says: • Website
    @LostHopeless

    Morality aside, how does this translate to ethnic and cultural extinction? Not a chance in hell will these people be race replaced in the next 50 years

    If you don’t have kids your society dies. End of story.

    It saddens me because I admire East Asians. They’ve got a lot of things right. Especially the Chinese. They are very wise to avoid democracy. Democracy is a death sentence for a society.

    But you have to have kids. East Asians aren’t having kids because they’ve surrendered to western materialism.

  300. Factorize says:

    CRISPRed children have been born! Nature Genetics published an article last July disclosing over 1,000 SNPs associated with intelligence in humans! When is the conversation going to start that reflects these profoundly important developments? Technology is posed to drive IQ higher and higher generation after generation.

    Humanity is on the launch pad ready for a cognitive upgrade. Much of this thread’s focus has been on the consequences of low IQ behaviour. Soon we will face the consequences of high IQ behavior. How will we be able to cope? A conversation about IQ uplift needs to begin.

  301. @Okechukwu

    Mr Chukwu, ya think the aspiring new elites in the new America [the dot Indians and the Chinese] will have any patience at all with the more criminal aspects of black america? Just take a look at how these peoples treat black africans back in their home countries. Ironically, the blacks who go there are much MORE tame than the ones we find buzzing around the cass corridor and the slums of st louis MO.

    How they will deal with feral behavior, whether black (mostly) hispanic or white is anyone’s guess. Let’s just put it succinctly that they’d be a lot more, ahem, pragmatic. That would be the ONLY positive aspect of a quasi caste based society. And you wont have whites as the brahmins to lay your blame to. Instead, you’d have the real deal

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Okechukwu
  302. @LostHopeless

    Hispanics have already demonstrated this in Los Angeles. Like the Italians, their criminals are better organized and have more guns and money. Feeling no interest in slavery they are openly racist.

    Indians and Chinese cannot control the streets. But Hispanic gangs will.

    Jews will probably remain institutionally embedded and as long as they are, blacks will remain in their current position.

  303. Ahem says:
    @Che Guava

    During the Silurian period 230-240 million years ago the Moon was about 40% its current distance from Earth and a lunar month lasted nine days of 21 hours.

    The Moon covered six times more area of the night sky and, I suspect, you’d have been easily able to read a a fine print book during a full moon. (But watch out for predators. For them it would have been almost as good as daylight).

    We don’t live in a static Solar System, let alone a static universe.

  304. EH says:
    @Bliss

    Watson’s genealogy is known. The supposed analysis is a politically motivated lie, as is the implication that a significant portion of the White population has any Black ancestry at all.

  305. @Okechukwu

    Lookey here Mr. Chukwu. The DOL itself has filed a lawsuit against Oracle that it systematically discriminates in favor of Indians [dot] and against blacks, women and other non minorities [the darling of the left]. Since it is anti-white season all year round, they skipped the white part. But we know that they discriminate against us as well. The DOL had filed a lawsuit against Cisco as well (another curry stinkpool). Let’s hope they win. Since it is not whitey who is doing this, all is A-OK with the left now

    Here’s “anuddah” one for ya. This one is quite ironic. A pakistani being harassed by his hindu bosses [forced to give kick backs], an old black techy [the kind who could be an ideal role model to black kids] tries to help and is duly fired. He is now jobless and thanks to the clout these hindus have in tech, it would be very VERY difficult for him to find anuddah job, given that he is 53 already.

    So you better wish for the downfall of whitey at your own peril. These subCONtinentals and the chinamen would put you down, down way more than you ever were with whites at the top.

    You still feel it’d be all milk and honey with them at the top?

  306. Okechukwu says:
    @LostHopeless

    Mr Chukwu

    FYI, Chukwu means God.

    ya think the aspiring new elites in the new America [the dot Indians and the Chinese] will have any patience at all with the more criminal aspects of black america?

    The gunk on the bottom of my shoe is more worrying than that.

    How they will deal with feral behavior, whether black (mostly) hispanic or white is anyone’s guess.

    Whoever “they” are, I suppose they will deal with lawlessness as mandated by law.

  307. MBlanc46 says:
    @haole

    I’d call it part of the European diaspora, even if whites are a minority. They’re a minority in Chicago, too.

  308. MBlanc46 says:
    @Roy

    Many, probably most, American blacks are unable to adopt Western culture. Having no eexperience of Hong Kong, I can’t comment on the extent to which they might be Weatern, although my guess is that they’re Chinese who don’t think much of communism. Talk about ownership isn’t relevant. It’s a category mistake. It’s what I am.

  309. @anon

    those “blue and hazel eyes” are genetic camouflage, created thru generations of controlled Jewish exogamy followed by 2nd generation offspring marrying back into the Tribe; see the Type III & IV specimens @

    http://seductivejewess4.com

    the universalist, anti-White Tikkkun Olam is, however, genetically fixed via c. 65 generations of predominant Ashkenazic tribal endogamy since the 7th Century Khazar conversion: see the Type I & II specimens @

    http://seductivejewess4.com

    (((they))) will not change.

    (((they))) will not rest until they have destroyed us, or

    (((they))) are all dead. When Susan Rosenblatt-alias-Sontag wrote,

    “the White Race is the Cancer of Human History”,

    the Jewess meant every word of it.

  310. If we ditched the multi-blanket welfare state that supports independent households for single working moms who are not independent career women as advertised by liberals, what would happen?

    1). Black (and white) men would resume their historical stature as the chief breadwinners of households with children, rather than being regarded as nonessential by fake feminists——that is fake womb-productivity-based feminists with government-financed rent, groceries, and electricity, in addition to monthly cash assistance and up to $6,431 in refundable child tax credits——-who are, in effect, married to Uncle Sam.
    2). Since females often have a civilizing effect on males, the incarceration rate for Black males would go down.
    3). Marriage would again be financially advantageous, as opposed to something financially disadvantageous that puts moms over the income limits for welfare programs, and Blacks would start climbing back up to the 90-something-percent marriage rate—nearly matching the marriage rate of whites—that they enjoyed prior to the Un-Great Society’s benevolence.
    4) Single moms would not be ostracized, which would be better than in past eras where they were, but rather than maintaining an ungainly, inefficient, undignified, antiseptic and costly bureaucracy to support the illusion of independent single motherhood, orphanages would resurface—humane orphanages financed in large part by religious groups, with lots of enrichment opportunities for kids, and if their parents would not help them, single parents could retrieve their kids from the orphanages without the hassle of a stifling, cold and disrespectful bureaucracy when they became financially solvent.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  311. Kim says:
    @Jim Sweeney

    You are wrong. “…as fast as me” is correct.

    A clause must contain a subject and a verb. It may also contain an object or a complement. That is all. Thus the basic clause patterns of English are S+V, S+V+O, S+V+C, S+V+C+O, S+V+O1(direct object)+O2(indirect object).

    Other grammatical elements may occur and be interpolated, such as prepositions and adjuncts, but they are not integral to the basic clause.

    The clause “He is taller than me.” follows the pattern S+V+C+O:

    Subject (He) is (Verb) taller than (Complement: adjectival phrase) me (object).

    “He is taller than I.” X is incorrect because – it should be obvious – a clause cannot have two subjects.

    This idea that a clause can have more than one subject is very strange. It is becoming more common to hear it, however, and even to hear ignorant people like yourself correct others who are speaking standard English.

    People seem to think that “I” is more correct than “me” and “he” better than “him” in all circumstances. It may be a result of flooding our countries with large numbers of non-English speakers.

    Note that all prepositions must be followed by an Object, not a Subject. Think about it for a while and you will understand why.

    e.g., “That is between you and I.” X

    Should be “That is between you and me.”

  312. Ragno says:
    @Bliss

    So thaaaaat explains Detroit and Baltimore! “Intellectually dishonest racist haters….hell bent on turning science into …crackpot racial pseudoscience.”

    And all this time I’ve been automatically disqualifying anyone using the word “hater” in a sentence meant to be taken seriously. Is my face red!

  313. Ragno says:
    @dfordoom

    Our western societies are in decline because we have foolishly sacrificed the best, bravest and most selfless of our people in one short-sighted and unnecessary war after another, thus wiping them from the gene-pool forever and (unintentionally) obliterating our own future.

    On the lighter side, it would appear that Tiny Duck has managed to scare up a brain-trust at his local community college to invade the Unzsite user-comments. Pseudo-proving, in the somewhat-disingenuous words of Tim Jacob Wise, “y’alls parents be failures!”

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  314. Ragno says:

    Imcidentally: file under a picture is worth a thousand words the photograph appearing under the title of this entry.

    It’s one thing to bemoan, in print, the shameful treatment being accorded James Watson ….but that photo, of an aggressive water buffalo looming menacingly over a 90-year-old white man attempting to explain himself, says everything that even nominally-conservative op-eds don’t dare to.

  315. @Endgame Napoleon

    That was another great comment, E.N. I think it’s been a while since you’ve written under any post I’ve read, but I always enjoy and agree with your comments. Don’t mind the Commies on here (commenting under many of the unz articles). They are stupid as always, but very harmless.

  316. @Kim

    I appreciate the English lesson, Kim (no sarc there), but I don’t agree completely. Yes, it should be “That is between you and me.” That’s simple, as “me” there is nothing but an object. In the case of “… as fast as me”, that is correct, but “… as fast as I” may very well mean “… as fast as I am”, with “I am” being a clause (as you have in your 3rd form – S + V + C). Therefore, I think that is correct too.

    Here’s a better example that’s more clear: “He can throw a baseball farther than I.” Why is it “I”? It’s because “I can” or “I can throw” is implied, Kim. The “I” is a stand-in for a clause. “He can throw a baseball farther than me.” may very well be true (haha!), but that’s wrong English, unless you really mean “He can throw a baseball farther than he can throw me.”

    Are we all clear as mud here? Good, we can go back to bashing Fred Reed (no, just kidding, this is one of his decent columns).

    • Replies: @Kim
  317. You mean 45% of doctors are not black as I see in the TV commercials?

  318. Uncle Sam says:
    @Kim

    When the conjunction “than” is used, it indicates a comparison, which means the sentence has 2 clauses. A clause has a subject and a predicate. A phrase does not.

    E.g., it is grammatically incorrect to say “He is taller than me.” The word “me” cannot be used in the nominative case; it can only be used in the objective case. It is bad English to say that “He is taller than me am.” No one says that. “He is taller than I am” is the correct way to say the sentence. The pronoun “I” is the subject of the verb ‘”am”. But people leave the word out the verb”am” out and use the objective “me”.

    That might be due to the fact that the clause “I am” is a subordinate or dependent clause which cannot function without a main or independent clause.

    “He is as fast as I am” is proper English because no one would say “He is as fast as me am”. Once again, in comparisons you have 2 clauses.

    In any case, it is surprising to hear even well educated people use this malapropism.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
    , @Kim
  319. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Ragno

    Our western societies are in decline because we have foolishly sacrificed the best, bravest and most selfless of our people in one short-sighted and unnecessary war after another, thus wiping them from the gene-pool forever and (unintentionally) obliterating our own future.

    Yes, that is yet another part of the sickness that has afflicted western civilisation in the past hundred years. The extent of the butchery in those wars, and the barbarism (on both sides), almost passes belief.

    And all that slaughter was undertaken by our political leaders in the name of abstract ideologies – socialism, fascism, freedom and democracy, liberalism – and abstract political power games. And fuelled by breathtakingly dishonest propaganda (on both sides).

    It does kind of look like a civilisation that had become suicidally insane. Still is suicidally insane.

    But yes, you’re undoubtedly correct that the slaughter of so many healthy young men must have had consequences.

  320. @Uncle Sam

    What is almost as bad is how the subjunctive mood is abused. I get tired of seeing “If I was…. .” instead of If I were …”etc.

    • Replies: @Kim
    , @Truth
  321. Kim says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Re: “… as fast as I am”, with “I am” being a clause (as you have in your 3rd form – S + V + C). Therefore, I think that is correct too.

    ANSWER

    If you wish to say “As fast as I am” then that would be fine because then you are introducing a second (dependent ) clause.

    But the fact of the matter is that the commenter DID NOT use a dependent clause. The second pronoun was simply the pronoun object of the preposition “as”, thus creating a prepositional phrase.

    So the commenter was in fact correct.

    Anyway, I am sure that I am fighting a losing battle on this.

  322. Kim says:
    @Simply Simon

    Re the subjunctive “were”:

    Yes, it is disappearing. Too bad because was V were can be a useful distinction.

    Subjunctive “had” is also disappearing

    Instead of “Had he said that…” we are now hearing “If he would have said that…”. Clumsy, and even with all of the extra words, still ambiguous.

  323. Truth says:
    @Simply Simon

    You need to listen to more educated music.

  324. Kim says:
    @Uncle Sam

    YOU SAID”:”In comparisons we have two clauses”

    1. Simply not true. “He is bigger than me.” There is no second clause here. The form is S + V + C + O (prepositional phrase)

    YOU SAID: “He is as fast as I am” is proper English because no one would say “He is as fast as me am”. Once again, in comparisons you have 2 clauses.

    2. But the simple fact is that he did not use two clauses.

    “As” and “Than” may act as prepositions or as conjunctions (introducing a dependent clause)

    In this instance the word “as” was being used as a preposition. And what follows a preposition MUST be an OBJECT phrase.

    This is simply standard pedagogical grammar going back one hundred years. Consult your Fowlers.

  325. @Jeff Stryker

    Are you a Jew with an inferiority complex?

    Whites can run everything better than anyone else – when it is ourselves alone. Asians are much less impressive in every way. If otherwise, please explain why so few of history’s accomplishments were the product of East Asians – esp given that their population has ALWAYS (per the historical record) been so much greater than that of Europeans?

    If Jews are so wonderful (and how many there were in my own Ivy League university; I was never impressed by most of them, however), why do they rely on goyish foreign aid to safeguard Israel (OK, maybe that’s just their superior IQ bamboozling the sucker goys … or inferior ethics … or ethnonepotism …)?

    If blacks, Arabs, or Mexicans are so tough, why have Whites always and easily defeated them in battle?

    The truth that is little understood is that Whites are the Most Ethical Race (as well as most intelligent – at least historically, though a century of dysgenics may have altered this – and by far the best looking, with some competition from Brazilians). We deliberately handicap ourselves in ways no other race does because of our innate goodness. Sadly, we have allowed Jews and other minorities to weaponize our morality against us, persuading us that prioritizing the needs and preferences of our own race over that of others is somehow immoral (it is not, unless we are referring to what are considered classical acts of evil if performed by or upon individuals, like theft and murder; keeping non-Aryans OUT of OUR lands and governments does not so qualify).

    But you have hit on a very important point: the true superiority of the White race is not individual but collective. Whites have produced more great men than any other race, by far. But they could only become great because they worked within a generally excellent White civilizational matrix. Far too many Whites fail to grasp this point.

    Heroic and outsized individuals are wonderful, but the true greatness of the White man inheres in his race as a whole.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Truth
  326. @Colin Wright

    What the hell is wrong with hiring qualified and polite blacks????!! I’ve known several, and I’m a really White dude who tries to insulate himself from nonwhites (as best I can in CA, which frankly means I’m not as successful as I’d like)!

    My point is that THE issue is WHITE RACIAL and CULTURAL SURVIVAL. You want to live in Mexico (you don’t, but I mean if you’re pretending …)? Go move there! Don’t shove it onto me.

    All White nations would simply be the best: objectively (after 20-30 years of apartheid development), but even more, subjectively, for Whites themselves. Life with blacks is horrendous, but life with any other nonwhites ain’t so great, either.

  327. @Gene Su

    You are an example of why my ancestors were so intelligent to support Asian Exclusion Acts. Do you think we Whites need or want your kind here? We don’t.

    There is bullying among all groups at all times. Blacks are just so much more horrendous in their behaviors. I suffered predictable bullying at my all-boys high school for my scholastic qualities and inclinations. Such is life. But among the mostly White (and no black) kids, the worst that ever happened was that a bully once broke a smaller a$$hole’s arm (and got expelled for it). Compare that to the goings on in “inner city” schools.

    Of course, if you think blacks are as smart as Whites, then perhaps you are not very smart (or informed).

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  328. @Leon Haller

    I recall a 17 year old white kid challenging the ex-marine Vietnam veteran gym teacher to a fight and the entire school watched as this ex-marine threw the punk around like a rag doll in the parking lot.

    He had been a Sergeant and the school watched horrified at that ass kicking. The kid himself lay crying for about 10 minutes.

    In middle school, a black athlete challenged the headmaster, a crusty old Irish-born prick, to a fight and this principal took him in the gym and actually punched him in the nose until it bled.

    Never happen today.

  329. anarchyst says:
    @Leon Haller

    The White man DOES represent the epitome of human development.
    It is us Whites who gave so-called “civil-rights” laws a chance, that give EVERY race an equal OPPORTUNITY to excel (at least that was the intent, if not the result). NO OTHER RACE OR CULTURE has ever done anything like that. NOT ONE in the course of human development…NOT ONE…
    The greatest advance in human development was the formulation and implementation of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights.
    Throughout human history, NO OTHER DOCUMENTS have ever stated that our “rights” are inherent in our humanity and NOT “given” to us by government.
    These founding documents proclaim that there are “limits” to government power, and that the people “allow” the government to exercise “certain enumerated powers”, not unlimited powers.
    These founding documents recognize that we are citizens, not “subjects”.
    Although the Constitution of the United States has been ignored, disregarded, and even violated, its principles are still as valid today as when the documents were first written.
    It is WHITE MEN who espoused such brilliance, that will never be matched by any other racial or cultural group.

  330. Truth says:
    @Leon Haller

    The truth that is little understood is that Whites are the Most Ethical Race (as well as most intelligent – at least historically, though a century of dysgenics may have altered this – and by far the best looking, with some competition from Brazilians).

    Whites vs. “Brazilians” huh?

    Leon, which Ivy league school did you go to, Ivy Tech?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  331. @Truth

    TRUTH

    Which Brazilians is he referring to? The sizable German population of Southern Brazil? The Afro-Brazilian community of Northern Brazil? The Portuguese? Amazonian Native Americans? Mestizos?

    • Replies: @Truth
  332. To those here who are cheering for the white man:

    I really have no idea what there is for ol’ whitey to be proud about when one looks at the sorry state of global affairs to which he has brought us all. I would honestly feel pretty ashamed of them if I were white. Resource depletion, environmental degradation, the prospect of thermonuclear war… All three of these now seriously threaten the continuation of human civilization, if not life itself. And which of them has not been brought about by the white man first? (True, much of the rest of humanity is also currently contributing to these problems, but wasn’t it because ol’ whitey had compelled them to tread the same path of industrialization as he had?) And what number of ‘great achievements’ will compensate for them? Whatever other races might be deficient in, they at least didn’t bring about the three.

    As for being the most ‘ethical’ of all races, who are you kidding? Just look at the list of genocides, witch hunts, religious persecutions, antisemitism, slavery etc which mar the annals of Western history. Even today America continues playing the good old game of manipulating the world’s geopolitical landscape and causing endless misery for countless souls as a result. William Blum and Chris Hedges said as much.

    (Actually, being ‘white’ seems a pretty vague thing. There was a time when Irish and Italians were considered non-white. So what you mean by ‘white’ would actually seem rather unclear — unless, of course, you simply mean all the races/cultures today that use a language based on the Latin alphabet. I suppose I’ll settle for that.)

    By contrast, be it said, premodern China had a much cleaner record with respect to all the abovementioned eyesores at least since the 10th century AD. It was widely acknowledged by scholars like Joseph Needham, Derk Bodde and Junius Rodriguez that China always had very little slavery, which was never institutionalized. There had also been Jewish communities in China for centuries, and they were NEVER persecuted by the Chinese. Compare Europe. During Zheng He’s maritime voyages in the early 15th century AD he never engaged in any empire-building. Compare the Europeans again. And finally, according to Harvard clinical psychologist Martha Stout, in East Asian countries like Taiwan the proportion of the population suffering from Antisocial Personality Disorder has been found to be 0.03 to 0.14 percent — compared to the West’s rough average of 4 percent.

    By the way, a likeness of the Chinese sage Confucius can be seen in the East Pediment of the Supreme Court of the United States. Why put him there if white morality is so much better?

    With respect to inventiveness in science and technology, the Chinese didn’t do too poorly either. Check out Needham’s multi-volume epic ‘Science and Civilization in China’. Or Robert Temple’s ‘Genius of China’.

    Hey, perhaps we Chinese should be the superior race. After all, our skin color is much closer to the color of gold than that of any other. We should be dubbed the Golden Race. But no, we’re above this sort of thing (irony intended).

    Concerning the blacks, I can’t speak for (or against) them because I don’t know much about their history and cultures; all I have to say is that I’m frankly a bit disillusioned that in the 21st century one still finds such racial vitriol on the part of people in the West against other races, and vitriol backed by little substance at that. Well, not to worry. Come the collapse of modern industrial ‘civilization’, the white man will be concerned more with his next meal than with spreading his oh-so-civilized ways around the world. And the other races will finally see through the whole facade of ‘civilization’ and be free to chart out a way of life based on their own cultural heritage again…

    • Agree: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Logan
    , @Ragno
  333. @SomeoneInAsia

    MARRIED TO AN ETHNIC CHINESE HERE-

    The reason Zheng did not do anything with California when he (may) have discovered it or Chinese in Southeast Asia sold drugs to the Filipinos reduced to poverty by their shopkeeper crony capitalist mentality is that you have never had the imagination of whites. Or the delusions of grandeur.

    We can argue whether China non-stop commitment to selling heroin to Americans or meth to Filipinos is as nefarious as the opium trade. I’d say it is similar.

    Persian Jews in China never found any influence in politics, China’s financial system or its mass media. Had they done so, I’m the Han would have gotten rid of them. Inconsequential people do not make political enemies and the Persian Jews in China were nobodies (And still are).

    Confucius is acknowledged as philosopher in the West because whites know more about China or the rest of the world than Chinese of Nietzsche.

    Chinese like the disposable materialism of the West. If they did not buy it, it would not exist. Whites have genius for marketing. They build a Starbucks and Chinese frequent it.

  334. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    My friend believes that all of those people are one race.

  335. Logan says:
    @Colin Wright

    A valid point.

    However, people are often bullied for things other than race they cannot easily change.

    Hair color, too short, too tall, too skinny, too fat, too unattractive. Too smart, though that in many cases is at least partly being too open about being too smart. Too stupid, as the “Special Ed” kids.

    So race is just one of the things one can be bullied about that one cannot change.

  336. Logan says:
    @SomeoneInAsia

    You are quite right. Over the last 500 years the considerable majority of evil has been done by white people. But then it’s equally true that over the same period this same group has accomplished most of the good.

    So unless you’re willing to say the world was a much better place in 1500 than today, you have to acknowledge that the white contribution to our world has been on net a positive for humanity.

    BTW, you are also quite right about the lead China had in technology and innovation for most of history. It’s just that it looks to me that Chinese innovation declined drastically somewhere around that same period of 1400 to 1500 or so. Went down not just relative to the West, which was just starting its incredible climb, but also in absolute terms compared to earlier Chinese history.

    I’ve never heard a particularly logical explanation for this apparent general decline. We can point to Ming court politics for why Chinese overseas exploration stopped, but that appears to be just one example of a general trend in Chinese society.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  337. Ragno says:
    @SomeoneInAsia

    Oh I dunno – the entirety of your worldview; your ‘facts’, interpretation of same, your sweeping generalizations and of course your tone – a mix of superiority and ennui – are unquestionably the product of a Western, hence ‘white’, education. I know that this is the Internet where we’re all what we say we are – but I can’t help but suspect a curious melanin deficiency in your case. Or as David Cole recently put it, “It’s much more profitable in America these days to get all of the goodies and benefits that come from framing your life as a struggle against racist whites. Who’d want to give up such an advantage? Certainly not Jews, who’ve recently been fighting tooth and nail against being referred to as “white”…..”

    My own (hopelessly Caucasian) opinion is that after a few post-collapse years of Planet Mogadishu, or its nearest facsimile, the line to identify as “white” will be even longer than the current one (to relocate as close to Whitey as physically possible), and comprised of all the usual suspects now claiming to be anything but. I expect most of you will be sporting those in case of societal collapse, break glass emergency crucifixes as well, just to grease the skids and button up the paperwork.

  338. DB Cooper says:
    @Logan

    China has technology but China never has basic science. Without basic science technology can not get very far. Basic science starts in the West from the days of Galileo and that is the fundamental reason why the West starts to pull ahead of China a few hundred years ago and the lead kept increasing until today. Without basic science there won’t be any Industrial Revolution in the West.

    • Replies: @Moses
    , @Logan
  339. TheBoom says:

    There will never be a full acknowledgement of the differences in IQ and the impact on society in the US unless the elite want the narrative to change. It is the same with any of the other fictional narratives on the holocaust, trannies, climate change, gender equality and immigration. If you want status and employment you pretty much need to go with the flow. Besides, the elite doesn’t need to do all the policing. They have unleashed armies of would be commissars and witch burners to keep the rabble in line.

  340. Kula says:
    @anon

    The lowered pass rate has resulted in generations of angry matriculants who have been through twelve years of education and are qualified for nothing. They cannot compete with Zimbabweans who actually passed exams so further tension and frustration.

  341. SafeNow says:

    Affirmative action has been deemed insufficient reparation, insufficient redemption. It has been deemed that additional moral compensatory action for slavery is needed: open borders. Next will come financial confiscation of white income and assets. Make a plan, and don’t wait until its too late.

  342. Moses says:
    @Roy

    You are conflating culture with lineage, or genetics (much like progressives screaming against “cultural appropriation”). There is no “Chinese” culture. There is Chinese civilization, a great heritage that dates back 5,000 years, but it isn’t “owned” by anyone.

    How is Chinese civilization more related to Hans from backwater Yunnan than to the denizens of Nigeria? Are Uighurs who have lived within Chinese civilization for 1000 years less connected to it than a Han from Guangzhou or Hong Kong?

    A civilization is something one is inculcated in, not something that runs through one’s veins

    /sarcasm

    Wow. Breathtaking idiocy. But it’s good for the Jews, that’s all that matters.

    • Replies: @Roy
  343. Moses says:
    @DB Cooper

    China has technology but China never has basic science. Without basic science technology can not get very far.

    Yes.

    I’m fascinated by the story of the Danish astronomer Olaus Roemer who calculated the speed of light in 1676 by observing movements of Jupiter’s moons throughout the year. Just a curious dude. He didn’t make any money off it.

    Where are Roemer’s counterparts with big discoveries in Chinese history? There aren’t any, really.

    Chinese are plenty smart. But their curiousity mean is way to the left of Euros. Dunno why that is, but it is. It means they don’t do science like Euros, never have.

  344. Roy says:
    @Moses

    Sorry, I’m not convinced. And I mean, I don’t have a theoretical issue with being convinced of the genetic nature of culture, but I don’t think you’ve made any persuasive arguments. For instance, the children of one of my friends are half-Asian, half-white. They play the piano, learn American history, go to the art museum, blah, blah, blah. Are they only “half-western”? On the other hand, I’m familiar with 100% white children who do nothing but watch garbage TV all day. Are they more western due to their blood? Also what if they are whites from Eastern Europe like Polish, Romanian, etc.? Are they still 100% western, or more western than the half-asian kids, whose other half happens to be English? What exactly is the key?

    Culture just doesn’t work like that. Culture is an inheritance of customs, manners, beliefs, ideas, attitudes and esthetics. It is not passed on through blood, though it does originate in a certain place, and therefore within a certain group.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Truth
  345. peterAUS says:
    @Roy

    What exactly is the KEY ?

    Well, that’s the question, isn’t it?

    Nobody has been able to answer it, IMHO, so far. Your example of those half Asian and white trash points to that.

    Hence…hehe….you own attempt

    Culture is an inheritance of customs, manners, beliefs, ideas, attitudes and esthetics. It is not passed on through blood…

    doesn’t cut it either.

    Plenty of examples of “colored” people living for generations in the culture and simply not being a part of it.So, could have something with blood/genes…whatever.

    I guess it’s combination of several things. What are those thing and, more importantly, what’s the percentage of each of those in the mix, is the question.
    Well…..one day, perhaps, somebody will answer it.

    • Replies: @Roy
  346. Which human subspecies is the most intelligent?

    Lets look at things through a Darwinian lens. The “intelligence” of a species is its ability to use the tools at its disposal to survive under the prevailing conditions. The “success” of a species is its ability to propagate itself through time.

    What subspecies of humans has the highest reproductive rate?

    What subspecies takes advantage of the other subspecies to provide for its basic needs with the least amount of effort, thus freeing up more resources for reproduction?

    Now I ask you again, which subspecies is the most intelligent?

    From an existential point of view, which subspecies spends a greater proportion of its life pursuing pleasure and the least proportion in unfulfilling labor?

    Now I ask you a third time, which subspecies is most intelligent?

    To head off some retorts:

    Computers can do mathematical problems faster than humans. Are computers more intelligent than humans?

    Bacteria can produce organic compounds humans are incapable of producing. Are bacteria more intelligent than humans?

  347. Roy says:
    @peterAUS

    The notion that culture is a non-genetic inheritance doesn’t mean the inculcation in it is automatic. Meaning, your example of “colored” populations living in the west yet not assimilating does not contradict my proposition that culture is an abstract inheritance. Why certain populations do not assimilate probably has to do more with numbers and concentrations. Lots of Somalis during a short period of time, and you create an enclave. One Aryan Hirsi Ali, and you have assimilation.

    • Agree: Logan
  348. peterAUS says:

    Why certain populations do not assimilate probably has to do more with numbers and concentrations.

    Don’t think so.

    Red Indians in USA.
    Negroes in USA.
    Polynesians in Australia and New Zealand.

    My take: there IS something in genes, blood, whatever. Intelligence, temperament..something. What that something is I don’t know. You, apparently, disagree.
    Even if you, or whoever, agree doesn’t matter. That “something” still remains unknown, at least for now.

    I suggest we move on.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  349. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    And…I left the most obvious example, Aborigines, out of this. One can’t find many of them anywhere but in Australia.
    Similar to Red Indians. Could’ve mentioned Eskimos etc.

    Plenty of Negroes anywhere, though, and enough of Polynesians, to point that things, re culture, are bit …..complicated.

    “I suggest we move on” still applies.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  350. @Raxotic

    That will happen first with national defense as the excuse. Maybe first in the US, maybe another militaristic country

  351. @peterAUS

    Native Americans are a composite of Siberian, Asian and even Polynesian tribes that migrated to the Americas at the dawn of time.

    You can find Inuit (Eskimos) in Russia. That is where they originated. Some continue to live there. They did not enter the US until about 1000 years ago.

  352. Logan says:
    @DB Cooper

    Probably correct, more or less.

    But the development of the scientific method was not the result of the white skin of those who invented it. The scientific method grew out of a perfect storm of cultural and economic factors.

    It’s possible the race of the originators was one of those factors, but I doubt it. White people had been around forever, and they didn’t invent science. Until they did.

    Science has only been invented once.

  353. Truth says:
    @Roy

    I have to agree with you there, Old Sport, I mean, who could be more authentically Brit than this man. The Marquis of Queensbury would have to agree..

    • Replies: @blackbrit
  354. blackbrit says:
    @Truth

    truth ! you seem interested in commenting on britain a lot ? !

    • Replies: @Truth
  355. Truth says:
    @blackbrit

    I guess I’m an Anglophile.

    Who are the three coolest people in British history?

    Chris Eubank
    Dillon Thomas
    Jacob Rees-Mogg

  356. Daniel7 says: • Website

    The obvious solution is separation, is it not? Peaceful separation, not out of hate but with care and respect and wanting the best for all involved. We are indeed very different, and good at different things. Let each race develop their tendencies and capacities to their maximum potential in its own sphere, without being imposed upon and without having to adjust to things that are innately unnatural for each race.

  357. ia says:
    @Roy

    I mean, Condoleezza Rice and Francis Fukuyama are probably more “Western” than a pop-culture-binging party girl from Leeds, right?

    Of course not. Blacks and Asians didn’t produce Ralph Vaughn Williams.

  358. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gene Su

    The whites moved out is why blacks are majority. It was fear of blacks.

  359. Joker says:

    Jerry Pournelle, may he rest in peace, said the solution to Dysfunctional American Education is this-
    Have the US Congress take control of the Washington DC School system. Have them tasked with making it the best school system in the world. Once done, all the other schools will want to be like that and we no longer need a Department of Education. If Congress fails in this task, then what business do they have telling the schools what to do?

  360. The entire system will be continually dumbed down until education and experience wont matter. The employers will be powerless. It will come down to a battle for civilization at some point. I wont be here… but it will be fucking glorious!!

  361. Affirmative action. Watch an episode of the TV series The Good Doctor, or Grey’s Anatomy. “Nuff said. Feel me.

  362. What do?

    Easy – our Oriental friends make them neat little genetic modification systems, and then everyone gets every single IQ-increasing gene that isn’t also bad (and can’t be countered).

    Beep boop, suddenly Africa’s development expands by a power of 1000. Libruls die of confusion

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