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Many people I talk to seem to think American foreign policy has something to do with democracy, human rights, national security, or maybe terrorism or freedom, or niceness, or something. It is a curious belief, Washington being interested in all of them. Other people are simply puzzled, seeing no pattern in America’s international behavior. Really, the explanation is simple.

The reason of course is empire, the desire for which is an ancient and innate part of mankind’s cerebral package. Parthian, Roman, Aztec, Hapsburg, British. It never stops.

When the Soviet Empire collapsed, America appeared poised to establish the first truly world empire. The developed countries were American vassals in effect if not in name, many of them occupied by American troops: Among others, Europe, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Latin America, Saudi Arabia, and Australia. The US had by far the dominant economy and the biggest military, controlled the IMF, NATO, the dollar, SWIFT, and enjoyed technological superiority.. Russia was in chaos, China a distant smudge on the horizon.

Powerful groups in Washington, such as PNAC, began angling towed aggrandizement, but the real lunge came with the attack on Iraq. Current foreign policy openly focuses on dominating the planet. The astonishing thing is that some people don’t notice.

The world runs on oil. Controlling the supply conveys almost absolute power over those countries that do not have their own. (For example, the Japanese would soon be eating each other if their oil were cut off.) Saudi Arabia is an American protectorate,and, having seen what happened to Iraq, knows that it can be conquered in short order if it gets out of line. The U. S. Navy could easily block tanker traffic from Hormuz to any or all countries.

A major purpose of the destruction of Iraq was to get control of its oil and put American forces on the border of Iran, another oil power. The current attempt to starve the Iranians aims at installing a American puppet government. The ongoing coup in Venezuela seeks control of another vast oil reserve. It will also serve to intimidate the rest of Latin America by showing what can happen to any country that defies Washington. Why are American troops in Nigeria? Guess what Nigeria has.

Note that Iraq and Iran, in addition to their oil, are geostrategically vital to a world empire. Further, the immensely powerful Jewish presence in the US supports the Mid-East wars for its own purposes. So, of course, does the arms industry. All God’s chillun love the Empire.

For the Greater Empire to prevail, Russia and China, the latter a surprise contender, must be neutralized. Thus the campaign to crush Russia by economic sanctions. At the same time Washington pushes NATO, its sepoy militia, ever eastward, wants to station US forces in Poland, plans a Space Command whose only purpose is to intimidate or bankrupt Russia, drops out of the INF Treaty for the same reasons, and seeks to prevent commercial relations between Russia and the European vassals (e.g., Nordstream II).

China of course is the key obstacle to expanding the Empire. Ergo the trade war. America has to stop China’s economic and technological progress, and stop it now, as it will not get another chance.

The present moment is an Imperial crunch point. America cannot compete with China commercially or, increasingly, in technology. Washington knows it. Beijing’s advantages are too great: A huge and growing domestic market, a far larger population of very bright people, a for-profit economy that allows heavy investment both internally and abroad, a stable government that can plan well into the future.

America? It’s power is more fragile than it may seem. The United States once dominated economically by making better products at better prices, ran a large trade surplus, and barely had competitors. Today it has deindustrialized, runs a trade deficit with almost everybody, carries an astronomical and uncontrolled national debt, and makes few things that the world can’t get elsewhere, often at lower cost.

Increasingly America’s commercial power is as a consumer, not a producer. Washington tells other countries, “If you don’t do as we say, we won’t buy your stuff.” The indispensable country is an indispensable market. With few and diminishing (though important) exceptions, if it stopped selling things to China, China would barely notice, but if it stopped buying, the Chinese economy would wither. Tariffs, note, are just a way of not buying China’s stuff.

Since the profligate American market is vital to other countries, they often do as ordered. But Asian markets grow. So do Asian industries.

As America’s competitiveness declines, Washington resorts to strong-arm tactics. It has no choice. A prime example is the 5G internet, a Very Big Deal, in which Huawei holds the lead. Unable to provide a better product at a better price, Washington forbids the vassals to deal with Huawei–on pain of not buying their stuff. In what appears to be desperation, the Exceptional Nation has actually made a servile Canada arrest the daughter of Huawei’s founder.

The tide runs against the Empire. A couple of decades ago, the idea that China could compete technologically with America would have seemed preposterous. Today China advances at startling speed. It is neck and neck with the US in supercomputers, launches moonlanders, leads in 5G internet, does leading work in genetics, designs world-class chipsets (e.g., the Kirin 980 and 920) and smartphones. Another decade or two of this and America will be at the trailing edge.

The American decline is largely self-inflicted. The US chooses its government by popularity contests among provincial lawyers rather than by competence. American education deteriorates under assault by social-justice faddists. Washington spends on the military instead of infrastructure and the economy. It is politically chaotic, its policies changing with every new administration.

ORDER IT NOW

The first rule of empire is, “Don’t let your enemies unite.” Instead, Washington has pushed Russia, China, and Iran into a coalition against the Empire. It might have been brighter to have integrated Iran tightly into the Euro-American econosphere, but Israel would not have let America do this. The same approach would have worked with Russia, racially closer to Europe than China and acutely aware of having vast empty Siberia bordering an overpopulated China. By imposing sanctions of adversaries and allies alike, Washington promotes dedollarization and recognition that America is not an ally but a master.

It is now or never. If America’s great but declining power does not subjugate the rest of the world quickly, the rising powers of Asia will swamp it. Even India grows. Either sanctions subdue the world, or Washington starts a world war. Or America becomes just another country.

To paraphrase a great political thinker, “It’s the Empire, Stupid.”

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. The U.S. is broke. And stupid. Soon she will be forced to repatriate her legions.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @follyofwar
  2. Great summary!

    “Washington has pushed Russia, China, and Iran into a coalition against the Empire.”

    Turkey may soon join them, then Iraq might revolt. South Korea has tired of the warmongering and may join too, which is why Washington is giving them the lead in dealing with North Korea. But a united Korea identifes more with China than the USA, so the USA wants to block that idea. The Germans are unhappy too, with all the warmongering, immigration, and American arrogance.

  3. Isabella says:

    Sorry Fred, but you’re too late. It’s all over. Just that your maniacal rulers, i.e. Pompeo, Bolton et al can’t see it. Or, Cognitive Dissonance being painful, refuse to.
    Warsaw recently was a case in point. The two biggest European countries, Germany and France refused to even send a senior representative. All people did was listen in an embarrassed silence while Pompeo tried to make like a latter day Julius Cesear. At the same time, Russia, Turkey and Iran met in Sochi, and worked out how they were going to take the next solving the mess in Syria, the way they want it.
    Incidentally, you could also go onto YouTube and watch RT’s subtitled [also horrible voice over, but you can’t have everything I guess] of President Putin’s “Address to Parliament and the Nation”. It runs for close to 1.5 hours. You will hear the problems Russia has, how Putin addresses the concerns of the people, their complaints re poor access in country areas to medicine, and his orders on how this is to be fixed.
    But you will also hear the moves forward, that Russia now has a trade surplus [remember those?] and can afford all the programs it needs. It’s the world leading exporter of Wheat, and other commodities are catching up.
    Then he will tell you and show videos of the latest 2 defence weapons – and they are things America cannot defend against. He also in light of the US withdrawing from the INF treaty made a very clear statement, should the US be so stupid as to think it can use Europe as it’s war ground, and have Europeans get killed instead of Americans. “Put Intermediate sites in Europe and use just one, and not only will we fire on the European site that sent it, but we will also take out the “decision making centre”, wherever this is”.
    Ponder that for a while. There is nothing US can do. The dollar is slowly being rejected and dumped. The heartland is reamed out after billions took the productive facilities and put them in China [so kind]. The homeless and desperate are growing in numbers.
    It’s all over, Fred. Time to start planning what to do when the mud really hits the fan.

  4. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    China of course is the key obstacle to expanding the Empire… America cannot compete with China commercially or, increasingly, in technology. Washington knows it. Beijing’s advantages are too great: A huge and growing domestic market, a far larger population of very bright people, a for-profit economy that allows heavy investment both internally and abroad, a stable government that can plan well into the future.

    But all the bright minds come to the US. There is no brain drain in China’s way, but the best and brightest in Asia come to the US. Also, as the Asian mind respects power and status above all, most Asians in the US become loyal servitors of Empire. Asians will serve Asian power only in Asia where they are dominant. When they are in a non-Asian land, they will suck up to the non-Asian power. In this, they are unlike Jews. Even in Ancient Times, Jews always felt as #1 even when surrounded by much bigger powers. They were defined by the Covenant with the one and only God. Wherever Jews go, they expect others to revolve around them. In contrast, wherever Asians go, they revolve around the dominant power, whatever it is. Asians lack the centrism of Jews. Maybe Hindus do a little bit, but Chinese don’t. China regarded itself as the Middle Kingdom only in the Middle Kingdom. But outside it, they feel as strays who must serve another master. (To be sure, Chinese resist assimilation into foreign nations when they regard the natives as inferior. Chinese see Southeast Asians as inferior and don’t assimilate much with them. But Chinese regard whites as superior, and so, they try to serve and be white in the West. And trashy Chinese try to imitate blacks, the masters of badass coolery in Pop Culture and Sports.) East Asians mainly define themselves by service and loyalty? To what? To whatever happens to be the most powerful.
    Here’s the difference between Jews and East Asians.
    If the US were to turn anti-Israel and made war against it, American Jews will NOT join in the effort to kill fellow Jews in Israel. No way in hell, and this is the admirable aspect of Jewish consciousness. Jews will not be manipulated by goyim to kill other Jews.
    But Asian dogs in the US will gladly serve the US empire in killing tons of Asians in Asia, even ethnic kin. Muslims are the same way. Look at those Muslims in US military who bombed and killed Muslims in the ‘Wars on Terror’. There’s no way any American Jew will participate in US war on Israel that kills tons of Jews, but Asians will gladly kill fellow Asians in the service to what they deem to be the highest power. Look at Japanese during and after WWII. During WWII, Japanese loyally served the Emperor, the symbol of power. After the way, they loyally served Uncle Sam as the New Top Power.

    Chinese population will fall by half with each generation due to low birthrates. It will go the way of Japan and South Korea where the toxicity of status worship + feminism has led to demographic demise. Japanese and Kors would rather die or move abroad than work at ‘dirty’ jobs.. which are increasingly going to Asians from poorer nations. China still has a large work force willing to do any labor, but as the Good Life becomes the norm in China, more and more Chinese will choose not to have kids UNLESS they can be assured of their children’s economic success and upward status mobility. New China wants to be a gigantic Singapore, a nation where East Asians are not breeding in sufficient numbers. Singapore was traditionally 80% Chinese but Hindus and Muslims will be the demographic majority… unless it increases mass immigration from China.

    US has lots of problems, but most smart people around the world want to move to the US to work in Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Real Estate, and etc. There are foreigners in China, but the system is rigged by nationalism to keep top positions in Chinese hands. But in the US, due to demise of white race-ism and nationalism, non-white newcomers can rise to the very top very fast. Look at all the obscenely rich Hindus in Silicon Valley. Also, white goyim who made America let Jews take over. The Jewish takeover of a majority white Christian nation sent a message to the world that ANYONE can come to the US and reach the top. If Chinese elites still favor fellow Chinese, white elites no longer favor white folks and prefer to do business with non-white elites. So, most of the top talents will flow to the US.
    Also, tons of peons are willing to move to the US to do jobs Americans won’t do. So, US will have tons of brains and tons of peons. (The Middle will suffer though as it’s hard for the middle class and working class to have bargaining power if they can be replaced by foreigners or if their jobs can be shipped overseas.) US population is likely to be 700 or 800 million by 2100. Also, America has much more resources than China. It has more oil, better land, more minerals. And US also has Alaska, a world unto itself. (Russians sure were stupid to sell it.)

  5. peterAUS says:

    Not bad overall.
    Especially

    …..empire, the desire for which is an ancient and innate part of mankind’s cerebral package. Parthian, Roman, Aztec, Hapsburg, British. It never stops.

    When the Soviet Empire collapsed, America appeared poised to establish the first truly world empire.

    Current foreign policy openly focuses on dominating the planet.

    For the Greater Empire to prevail, Russia and China, the latter a surprise contender, must be neutralized.

    To paraphrase a great political thinker, “It’s the Empire, Stupid.”

    Minor quibble:
    .

    ..the developed countries were American vassals in effect if not in name, many of them occupied by American troops: Among others, Europe, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Latin America, Saudi Arabia, and Australia.

    Canada, United Kingdom and Australia are not occupied by American troops. Those troops, and not that many in the first place, are stationed there. Majority of Australians do not mind that at all. Well, depending on skin colour, that is.

    As for:

    The present moment is an Imperial crunch point.

    and

    It is now or never.

    Not so sure about that.
    Because

    … Another decade or two of this …..

    is a long time. A lot of things can happen, including some bad, to Russia and/or China.

  6. Can’t argue with that! Usually, I read Fred for amusement, but this is all spot on. I particularly liked:

    The American decline is largely self-inflicted. The US chooses its government by popularity contests among provincial lawyers rather than by competence. American education deteriorates under assault by social-justice faddists. Washington spends on the military instead of infrastructure and the economy.

    • Agree: follyofwar, David
    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  7. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    Incredible. US government cooks up lies to invade and wreck Iraq, destroy Libya, and subvert Syria. It pulled off a coup in Ukraine with Neo-Nazis. US and its allies Saudis and Israel gave aid, direct and indirect, to ISIS and Alqaeda to bring down Assad or turn Syria upside down.

    But, scum like Pompeo puts forth hardline stance against terrorists. What a bunch of vile phonies and hypocrites.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @Wally
  8. It might have been brighter to have integrated Iran tightly into the Euro-American econosphere, but Israel would not have let America do this. The same approach would have worked with Russia, racially closer to Europe than China and acutely aware of having vast empty Siberia bordering an overpopulated China.

    Russia is more than racially closer, Russia is culturally much closer and by culturally I don’t mean this cesspool of new “culture”. But, as you brilliantly noted:

    The US chooses its government by popularity contests among provincial lawyers rather than by competence.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  9. Britain’s time of full spectrum dominance (well trade, industry and navy really) did not emerge fully formed from isolation as did America. England and the UK played balance of power politics. The US can still do that for a very long time, given some basic diplomatic sense.

    India, China & Pakistan present an interesting triangle. Indonesia and Vietnam are no friends of China. Nigeria is heading for 400m people and will want to exert its own power, not take instructions from Peking, etc, etc. Balance of power requires more fluidity than the US has shown to date. Seeing Russia as an hereditary enemy illustrates this failure.

    Can the US make the changes necessary to play balance of power politics?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ben sampson
  10. I for one do not wish the Chinese any ill. They have worked hard to get where they are, whereas our leaders have betrayed us.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?103023-1/the-great-betrayal

  11. @Godfree Roberts

    Most of us not being economists would like to know the implications of your graph.

  12. Cyrano says:

    I think that Bernie Sanders was the best hope that US had in the last 50 years. And they killed that hope by stealing his nomination and highly probable presidency from him. I don’t care what the orange clown says about “US will never be a socialist country”. One other individual of his ethnic background once prognosticated a 1000 year reich – and we all know how that turned out.

    I don’t know what Bernie views on immigration are, but on social and economic issues – he is bang on. And I just heard on the news that Bernie new campaign for 2020, has broken all previous records – raising 6 million $ in the first 24 hours.

    All that nonsensical talk about empire is just a product of idle (and deranged) minds of individuals who have achieved personal wealth and success based on rules of questionable fairness, and now have nothing better to do than play some retarded game of world domination – which doesn’t benefit the average American at all. It’s just a way for the degenerates to achieve “immortality” and get into the history books – where they don’t belong – certainly not based on their abilities.

  13. @Godfree Roberts

    Something wrong here. Government spending in either country is far more than 2%.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
    , @Bill H
  14. @Priss Factor

    That’s a very selective reading of things, and a lot of debatable generalizations about other nations the US one it seems is all you know personally. Too much to challenge it all but just the point about Jews not killing other Jews has to be questioned. Jewish elites sacrifice Jews without qualms when they see it as a means to an end, witness the “Holocaust” which was instigated and fed by Jewish elites who did all they could to ensure Jewish refugees from Europe only went to Palestine or back to oppression. There were Jews in armies on both sides of the two world wars. Over 150,000 German Jews fought in WWII in the Wehrmacht. Then there have been the instances of Zionist false flag terrorism in various Middle Eastern countries to drive yet more Jews to Palestine.

    As for the best and brightest making a beeline for the USA that was yesterday. These days that flow is slowing and by no means are the best and brightest headed that direction and more to the point, many of America’s best and brightest are beginning to emigrate to greener pastures as the writing on the wall becomes more obvious. What you describe as a US renaissance is no such thing. Although the demographics are probably about right. It represents the end of the USA in it’s traditional self perception and the aftermath of empire collapse. History doesn’t support the rosy outlook you project.

  15. The astonishing thing is that some people don’t notice.

    .

    Not to notice (or rather, not to notice one’s own noticing) what the majority doesn’t notice (OK: they don’t notice that they notice, actually) is part of humankind’s cerebral package too.
    You once called it the law of the pack. It can be given innumerable names — just it doesn’t change.

    The American decline is largely self-inflicted.

    .
    It’s what follows ripe democracy, invariably — meanjng that it can arguably not be helped.

  16. @Godfree Roberts

    Finally a bright spot in an otherwise depressingly-fairly-truthful article. Less Government spending is a GOOD thing, … I mean, unless you are a flat-out Communist, of course … ohhhhh….

    And yes, the scale is WAY off. How could those 0.8 to 2.05% numbers seem even close to reality to anyone who has a clue. I can’t vouch for China, but the US number is off by a factor of 20 to 25. Come on, Godfree, you’re (a tad bit) better than that!

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
    , @chris
  17. That’s not a bad article in general, but, as usual, Mr. Reed doesn’t really have that analytical mind to know what’s really been, and is, going on.

    1) There were PLENTY of Americans, many of them even politicians who wanted a “peace dividend” after the Cold War was won. G.H.W Bush and the neocons put the kibosh on that. The current version of empire-building didn’t have to be. The Israeli-influenced neocons are most of the reason for the post-Cold-War empire building.

    2) It’s not ALL about oil anymore – it seems to be a diminishing factor, what with the US producing more oil than it imports, at this point. Mr. Reed could use a dose of Zerohedge.com, as, along with their gloom-and-doom, they have opened my eyes to the American meddling around the world to keep support of the Reserve Currency, the US dollar. Lots of the countries in which the US causes trouble were trying to get out of the dollar world with their trade.

    3) Related to (2) here, China and Russia both want to eliminate the use of the dollar in trade, including with each other. That bothers a lot of people who understand how bad the outlook for the US economy really is, and what it would mean for the dollar to no longer be used around the world for trade.

    4) American government has handed China a completely one-sided deal (FOR China) in trade since the mid-1990’s and Bill Clinton. It’s time to end that, which is what the trade war is about. I don’t dispute that American could be in a whole lot more pain over it than the Chinese, but it’s like medicine – take it now, or suffer even more later.

    America? It’s power is more fragile than it may seem. The United States once dominated economically by making better products at better prices, ran a large trade surplus, and barely had competitors. Today it has deindustrialized, runs a trade deficit with almost everybody, carries an astronomical and uncontrolled national debt, and makes few things that the world can’t get elsewhere, often at lower cost.

    AGREED wholeheartedly!

    • Replies: @llloyd
  18. @peterAUS

    I agree .. Canada is “not” under America’s boot. As a Canadian I respect the security America provides Canada on the world stage but it would be a cold day in hell when i would submit to an America with a gun in his hand. And im pretty sure our best buddies in jolly ol England might have something to say. This isnt a pissing match. Empire is a fickle bitch.

  19. peterAUS says:
    @Bruce County

    Pretty much.
    As far as Australia and New Zealand are concerned it’s crystal clear. Somebody has to provide security for our way of life here; before it was United Kingdom, now it’s USA.
    Hehe…definitely preferable to China.
    Or Japan.
    Or…anyone here in Pacific.

    If Americans want to deploy a full corps, whatever, no prob. Again, as far as “fair skinned” English speaking citizens here are concerned. I’d even say it applies to Polynesians around.
    Now, can’t say it applies to our Mohammedan citizens, and definitely not to Chinese.

    It’s amusing to see Westerners around here keen on replacing USA empire with Chinese. Hehe…talking about self-hate.
    Granted, there are people among them who really believe in all that propaganda coming from Beijing. Well…better than taking Prozac or similar, I guess, so all good.

  20. swamped says:

    “Current foreign policy openly focuses on dominating the planet. The astonishing thing is that some people don’t notice.” That is pretty astonishing, given that most of the columns on sites like this & even in more MSM-style publications rehash this theme ad infinitum. It may, in fact, be more a matter of people simply getting tired of hearing it over and over that leads them to shrug and turn to something different. It’s not news anymore. How many columns can anyone squeeze out of the same threadbare topic. Many years ago, during first Cold War, it was still somewhat daring to expose this partially hidden truth; but now it’s old hat on both the left & right.No one really needs someone to tell them again what everyone already knows, that’s easy – but what to do about it, that’s the hard part!

  21. @Simply Simon

    I’m not an economist either, but it looks like the Chinese have outspent us 2:1 in R&D since 2012.

    That, plus their better educated youngsters, gives them an awesome advantage going forward.

  22. @Philip Owen

    This is a subset of government spending and only covers R&D.

    It doesn’t cover corporate R&D spending, though I’m guessing that in that regard, the two countries are even. If anyone has the numbers I’d be grateful if they’d share them.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  23. @Achmed E. Newman

    Can you provide sources and figures for your claim that the US number is off by a factor of 20 to 25?

    That would imply that the USG is spending $9 trillion–50% of GDP–on R&D alone.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  24. chris says:
    @Isabella

    Excellent comment, Isabella!

    • Replies: @yurivku
  25. chris says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It would make more sense if the colors were reversed

  26. tamo says:
    @peterAUS

    Hey dumb f— , there will be VERY FEW “FAIR-SKINNED ENGLISH SPEAKING” citizens left in the U.S. by the middle of this century. According to the U.S. CENSUS, blacks and Hispanics ( your two favorite peoples) and mulattoes ( thanks to your lovely white girls shacking up with trash NEGROs) will be a MAJORITY in your lovely America. The whites must be the MOST STUPID people in the history of the world because they are committing their own racial suicide all by themselves, LOL !!!! This means America is in the middle of it’s self-destruction. Your good old U.S.A will become a Brazil of North. With a third -world population majority, do you really think economic progress and innovation will come out of America that by around 2060 will be ONE OF THE BIGGEST THIRD- WORLD COUNTRIES in the world. China DOES NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST AMERICA. All China has to is just wait . Think about it, my dear WN boy. To be honest with you, I feel sorry for and in a way sympathize with you. If I were white, I would extremely be angry too. But I’m afraid America is already gone too far toward the HELL HOLE.

  27. Bill H says: • Website
    @Philip Owen

    Yes. US spending is currently somewhere around 17% of GDP.

  28. ValmMond says:

    The US chooses its government by popularity contests

    Stop. Just stop. Americans chose nothing. There is no choice. All choices that matter have been made for them longtime ago. Power no longer resides in the constitutional branches of government. Elections are meaningless. The brand and the project US have been hijacked by an aggressive minority controlling monetary flows. Americans just go along with the vain spectacle of legitimizing a foreign occupation.

  29. apollonian says: • Website
    @Cyrano

    Empire, “Globalism” Is Doomed, One Way Or Other

    Golly gee, but didn’t “Israel-first” Donny-boy Trump articulate, for all time and all purposes, the great dichotomy/anti-theses?–nationalism vs. globalism (“empire”). And globalism, like socialism, is GENOCIDE–as in Agenda-21 and -2030 pop. reduction. For after all, socialism is just the outer masking, cloaking of GENOCIDE, destroying the economy, degrading the society, exterminating the individual.

    For as even the Jew economist, Ludwig von Mises, noted nearly 100 yrs ago in his epochal work, “Socialism,” it (socialism) destroys all/any market systems, esp. the pricing mechanism by which any coherent planning and prediction can take place, DESTROYING the economy. Socialism is just fascism w. a pretend masking/cloak feigning “concern” and “caring” for goons, morons, scum, filth, inferiors, and weaklings–which is a fine way to treat and think of one’s neighbors. The individual loses all rights at behest of obligation and slavery to fellow slaves and goons–it’s inhuman, anti-human.

    Always the socialist scum demand MORE and evermore coercive, dictatorial POWER–in order to make their moronic, idiot’s fantasy work–“it’s not working [and never will work] because we don’t have enough power, by golly,” say the socialist fools and demogogues–like Bernie Sanders, the Jew, and lately “Occasional-cortex,” the floozy that goons like “Cyrano” is attracted to, thinking she’s sooooooooooo cool.

    And what is socialism when all is said and done?–just a stinking MONOPOLY, that’s all, nothing more nor less, with, of course, and as always, a police-power, ever-growing, ever looking for more power and coercion to MAKE the scum do what they’re told–just a slow mass-murder of the people, destruction of everything worthwhile, including families, the productivity of society and economy, and most of all, destruction of the individual’s psyche and self-respect as a free person.

    Socialism is anti-economics in favor of a false and pretended “moral” ideal (collectivism) which never works, never has ever worked, and guaranteed to fail–that’s its purpose, really: to fool the over-populated stupid people to giving the lying scum power and dictatorship upon false pretext momentarily attractive to poor, pathetic, over-populated stupid people who want to suck off their neighbors–like the clueless “Cyrano.”

    But what I MOST like about “Israel-first” Donny-boy Trump, despite he’s disgusting, putrid traitor and flunky to Jews, is he at least NAILED the opposed principles which harkens back to the old states-rights philosophy of heroic Confederate States of America (CSA). And it’s an easy sell now for this INDEPENDENCE theme of original Declaration of Secession–I mean INDEPENDENCE. For remember states are sovereign and sovereignty cannot be alienated–all in accord w. 10th Amendment (28 words to it) wherein secession is not prohibited, take note. See TenthAmendmentCenter.com.

    So lets just SECEDE, suckers, and note now even lots of northerners would agree it’s the only, real PLAN. We can now have our own white people’s and Christian country back again–some states can be all white AND Christian, and the other states can be all Christian, and we’ll remove the central-bank counterfeiting criminals (see Mises.org for expo on central-banking criminal-enterprise–use their site search-engine for particular terms), use ONLY gold/silver for real money, and live in proper accord w. NULLIFICATION of un-Constitutional laws.

    This, states-rights concept for USA, is where Donny-boy Trump’s “nationalism” will take us, for the internal, necessary logic–against globalist, socialist GENOCIDE–and the “cat” is ALREADY “out” of the proverbial “bag,” sports-fans.

    • Agree: Cleburne
  30. Jaylon says:

    Fred telling it as it is in the most succinct manner that i have seen. But now or never? I think the now has passed, thanks to wonderful Trump and the blatant dispaly of imperial hubris by every single US official, VP Pence, Pompeo, Bolton, etc, and even the ones before like Nikki Haley.

    • Replies: @Biff
  31. TheBoom says:

    “A major purpose of the destruction of Iraq was to get control of its oil and put American forces on the border of Iran, another oil power”

    Fred is behind the times. Oil is the type of thing we used to fight wars over.

    The US let China come in and scoop up much of the oil. The goal was to remove the worst threat du jour to Israel and pave the way for the removal of the other threats to Israel.

  32. A major purpose of the destruction of Iraq was to get control of its oil and put American forces on the border of Iran, another oil power

    Not exactly abut the oil per se but about making sure it got bought and sold in the almighty US dollar. When you can print infinite money backed by someone else’s oil, that’s infinitely better than actually holding that oil. The (((cabal))) that is currently dominating the unofficial FED would love to continue the charade as long as their pet peeve in the middle east aka the “only demoCRAZY in da middle east”[TM] becomes the only sovereign nation on the face of the planet. After all, our very purpose of creation is apparently to be their slaves now isn’t it? White/black/brown/Asian all of us are mere goyim now aren’t we?.

    Would you care if the heifer you slaughter for beef is red/yellow/black/ or white? You don’t right? Like wise..

  33. JNDillard says:

    An excellent summary. Thanks, Fred. India will join the Eurasian block sooner than later, due to the economic advantages of One Belt One Road. It is already a member of the SCO, as is Pakistan – both lost to the US. Economic advantages will overcome Indian distrust of China. Follow the money. Commerce is also a major incentive to the reduction of warfare, as explained in detail by Steven Pinker, and indicated by the relative lack of attacks on Chinese communism over the last forty years by the US – the US economy has fundamentally depended on cheap Chinese goods. It still does, but in desperation, the wonks have grown irrational. Tariffs raise prices on the cheap Chinese stuff at Wax-Mart, Costco, and Sam’s Club, where most of America shops to stay afloat. Do you think they will care when their food costs more? What do you think is likely to be the consequence of that? Anger at China? Ha ha! Regarding Europe, we are going to see a major increase in commerce with both Russia and China, pulling them together. Why? Because what else is going to fuel European growth? The UK, facing Brexit, has already reached out to do deals with Beijing, but these have been temporarily blown due to stupid British imperial saber-rattling, which will soon be stifled by the corporatists, who have the last say in any country. The Saudis are going down. The Chinese will soon demand the Saudis accept payment for oil in Yuan while the Empire will demand a continuation in Petrodollars or it will threaten to close the Straits of Hormuz. These twin demands will be too much for the brittle, inflexible House of Saud to navigate. Eventually, both the Europeans and Hispanics will throw out the neoliberals who have obviously failed to deliver, with Macron being the most obvious example. For those horrified by socialism and communism, just what solutions does capitalism offer to these realities? For those horrified by government spending, look at what the Chinese command economy has accomplished. Its reduction of poverty for millions is unparalleled in world history, to name only one example of its exceptional accomplishments. If you aren’t aware of the amazing benefits this governmental structure has brought to the Chinese, you have simply been reading too much fake news out of the MSM. Basically, Russia and China are simply out-performing the US and Europe in almost every metric you can throw up. The strongest competitors are – guess what? Hold for it – the highly socialistic countries of Northern Europe. Why do you think either Sanders or Gabbard is most likely to be the next President of the US? It isn’t just that we are all horrified by Trump. People smell the underlying rot. Israel is also cooked. It has destroyed any chance for a two-state solution; a one state solution is gonna happen for various converging reasons. Bye Bye zionist apartheid theocracy. The entire enterprise is running on fumes of desperation, as seen in zionist attacks on the First Amendment in the US and the bizarre anti-semitism charges launched at Labour in the UK by the Tories, who have to a man gone over to the Dark Side of the Farce. Fundamentally, the US and its “Five Eyes” allies not only have rendered themselves irrelevant, but have emasculated themselves on the world stage, and continue to do so, as is witnessed by the embarrassing display of greed and sycophancy in the support of a coup by Random Guydo against an internationally certified democratically elected government in Venezuela. Will the coming, obvious collapse of the West come suddenly or gradually, giving the World time to adapt? Let us hope for the latter.

    • Replies: @alan2102
  34. @tamo

    Don’t get giddy with glee too fast Chinaman. Our (((special people))) who have deliberately and very carefully constructed the slow gradual destruction of the USA [along with using it as a dumb hammer to pound away at their enemies in the middle east] are attaching themselves to the middle kingdom like fleas. Sheldon Adelson has a lot of prime real estate in Macau and there are many many of them in Hong Kong and Shanghai. Of course to your Chinese eye, he/she is merely white. Hollywood is already having an impact and many a Chinese youth are imitating US blacks. Cool isn’t it?? 😉 .

    Before you know it, they’d wriggle their way to the top like they do everywhere. There are way too many Jewesses getting attached to prominent men in China [who wouldn’t mind having a (((white))) woman be their wife/mistress; you know men right? The more variety the merrier. Sex and Beauty sells and has been used to undermine men since the beginning of time]. They know they cannot fit in that easily for now [with the ’rounding error’ eyes as you guys say and a not so Asian look] but their children won’t have this issue. This wouldn’t raise any eye brows in China as Han culture, I’m told is passed down by the father while kosherness by the mother. So they’ll be Kosher Hans mentored by their Kosher moms and before you know it, they’d be at the top of the NPC.

    • Replies: @tamo
    , @Escher
    , @Sam J.
  35. @Priss Factor

    Suggest you remove your brain and wash it out with soap.. rinse in acid to rid of fungi, and in antiseptic to rid of bacteria, somethings seems cloggy.. Most people wanting anything to do with wall street, it seems, are smart, best in the world, crooks.. second best seem to land in DC.. China probably does not want them back. and Americans wish they would go home take federal reserve and wall street with them.

    China still has a large work force willing to do any labor, but .. US will have tons of brains and tons of peons.
    fortunately American Robots will soon do the forced labor and render Chinese brains idle.

  36. I miss an important subject in this article of the Belt and Road Initiative.

    New Silk Road Documentary

  37. @peterAUS

    Gee, Pete, you really are a plonker, aren’t you ?
    A full corps, eh ? What’s that, 36,000 troops , plus however many “tail” troops, specialists etc. This from the current battalion level (800 approx) ? And all Australians (the right -white -Australians) will support it ? Fuck off, Pete. Turn Darwin into an open brothel, heighten the strategic danger to this country when no immediate threat exists ? (except in your fevered imagination) Fuck off, Pete (oh, & he-fucking-he, you psychotic)

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @dfordoom
  38. tamo says:
    @Thomm's Purple haired femiNAZI

    Hey whitey, for your information, I’m not Chinese, but I went to school and lived in the states so that I’m very familiar with America. I know very well Jews dominate your good old U.S.A. It shows how stupid white gentiles are in America. That kind of thing will never happen in AUTHORITARIAN China. Sheldon Adelson, Steve Wynn , the Jews who own some casinos in Macau are at the mercy of the CCP. They better behave themselves. Otherwise those Jews will lose everything. Also I want you to know that Chinese families have the tendency to marry their sons with daughters from another Chinese families with similar background. Anyway, I must say your comment is full of a lot of wishful thinking. But it is funny in a way. The most powerful entity in the CCP is PSC not NPC.

  39. yurivku says:
    @chris

    Well, yes, but too much wishful thinking is here. Empire is dying, but it’ll take many lives with her.
    Nothing is over for now, don’t be so naive.

  40. Pft says:

    Ever wonder what happens if China stops selling to the US?

    I see shoeless and naked people, lacking devices to entertain themselves, a complete collapse of the retail industry that employs 5 million people, not to mention one of the biggest consumers of US debt and high end real estate taking their business elsewhere.

    China has 1 billion consumers of their own. They just need to helicopter money to the bottom 50% so they can buy more of what China makes.

    None of the above is likely. A trade agreement beneficial to China and US elites is going to happen. People will be do relieved they wont even know hiw they got taken yet again. Thats the point of the fake conflict. The insiders already know, why do you think the markets are rising as the US heads into a recession (despite the efforts to mask it with doctored numbers)?

    The elite led US has almost single handedly created China, from losing China to communism in 1949, to bailing out Mao with recognition and technological support through backdoor channels, to MFN for Deng despite Tiananmen and opening the doors to trade and investment (despite the lack of human rights and claims of socialism). Name any other self declared socialist nation receiving such treatment.

    China is the model for the future Totalitarian Global Green Technocracy the elite want so badly. America is the sacrifice that is essential for this New New World Order. Its not an accident.

  41. roonaldo says:

    It’s too late for the U.S. (“the mother of all harlots and abominations of the earth”), her pimp Israel, and their Globalist Beast allies to control the world, but when did reality or concern for the slaughter of millions ever intrude on the infantile minds of the Netanyahus and Boltons of this world?
    No, the “devouring, breaking in pieces, and stamping the residue with its feet” will continue until the Great Whore, Pimp, and Beast are consumed by their greed and corruption. Until then, fire up the stereo, throw on Barry McGuire’s “Eve of Destruction,” and hope humans do what history shows they’ve never done.

  42. llloyd says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Whenever I have sent money out of China, I give a spiel to my Chinese bank that it does not need to take equivalent value in American dollars from me and lock it in a safe. I appeal to practical sense. It is all just number combinations and to Chinese patriotism. Usually it works, and no transaction with American dollars is made. I wonder at the grass roots level how often that is happening.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  43. m___ says:

    The Empire: Now or Never

    ??? Rodeo drive. —America is on the defensive, it sheds assets, the dollar, less volume in transactions, less possibilities to cook the books. It’s population’s interests, thus it’s territory. The phalanx of Praetorians is a mercenary fraction.

    Reed, Fred we presume, should set his arguments straight. Are population, consumption, growth economics, military capitalism imposed by not being able to control the accounting of the global commercial fluxes assets or liabilities. One or the other, or both at the same time, according to the context of the rant? Then with some variables well defined, maybe speculate on any outcome.

    This theological piece was only bested by M. T. Klare’s, an Engelhardt copy paste on military tectonics this same week in our beloved colums catering to the most of the many. Glut sells.

  44. tyrone says:

    At least the Romans got to have a parade were they showed off the loot ,all we get is trillions in debt and a bunch of soldiers with arms and legs blown off begging for help on TV commercials ……………………I’ll take just another country PLEASE!

  45. onebornfree says: • Website
    @apollonian

    apollonian says: “….Socialism is anti-economics in favor of a false and pretended “moral” ideal (collectivism) which never works, never has ever worked, and guaranteed to fail–that’s its purpose, really: to fool the over-populated stupid people to giving the lying scum power and dictatorship upon false pretext momentarily attractive to poor, pathetic, over-populated stupid people who want to suck off their neighbors”

    Exactly.

    “Government, whatever form it may take, is by its nature a “socialist” system, at least in the sense intended by Trump in his speech. Its very existence depends on coercion, domination and control. Its raison d’être is to enforce a monopoly of power by the few over the many, and in its modern democratic socialist form it has even convinced those many that it “represents” them. That they are the government. And that the government will never be socialist.” James Corbett

    “The state—or, to make the matter more concrete, the government—consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can’t get, and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time it is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.” H.L. Mencken

    Here’s a link to a page containing links to free pdf downloads of Ludwig Von Mises’ masterpiece “Socialism” : https://mises.org/library/socialism-economic-and-sociological-analysis

    apollonian says: “So lets just SECEDE, suckers, and note now even lots of northerners would agree it’s the only, real PLAN”

    Why wait for states to secede when it might never happen? Personal secession is faster, and has far more chance of working for the individual, seems to me.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Biff
  46. @Isabella

    Don’t worry about Fred: He’s already moved to the New & Improved USA®.

  47. idealogus says:

    From my point of view, the most important aspect through which you can see the future of an empire is the quality of the human factor.
    Who studies the history of the Roman Empire remains amazed by the great amount of high-quality people: clever, hardworking, resolute, industrious, politicly driven, less known but roman shock everyone through incorruptibility etc. At least at at the beginning of the empire when were the hardest moments. Pompey compared to Caesar is a mediocre. Pompey compared to a barbarian is almost a genius.
    The Great Empires pass through three stages:
    1) The ruling elite is chosen from a relatively small group of related persons who lives in the capital or surrounding areas
    Caesar boasts that he is descended directly from the tribe of Iulia (one of the twelve tribes that founded Rome)
    2) there are no higher-quality people in the initial group, so the leaders came from the relatives who left Rome and go to conquered provincies
    Emperor Trajan who brought the empire at its peak of expansion was coming from the Spanish province and he was from from a noble Roman patrician family.
    3) there are no more quality people even in distant relatives, so they are looking for quality people among the conquered people who have embraced the culture and language of the empire
    Gen. Stilicon of vandal origin saved the empire from the invasion of the Goths, being obviously assassinated after that for his vital services to Rome.
    Final, not even among the conquered barbarians who admire the empire can find quality people – the empire collapses
    America is in its third stage. Import massive number of “barbaric” intelectuals and high quality people (who admire american way of life) through visas and large salaries, beside millions of illiterate and mobsters who want american free stuff.
    Of course at some point this will not be enough.

  48. Biff says:
    @Jaylon

    Fred telling it as it is in the most succinct manner that i have seen. But now or never? I think the now has passed, thanks to wonderful Trump and the blatant dispaly of imperial hubris by every single US official, VP Pence, Pompeo, Bolton, etc, and even the ones before like Nikki Haley.

    I pretty much agree with this assessment. Over the past six months it appears that Trump has taken a serious neo-con nose dive, and looks and acts much different than he did a year ago – like a mob boss wanna-be. Maybe for us anti-empire-imperialism types he could be the best tool to bring the Borg to a quicker demise.

  49. neutral says:

    I agree with a lot written in the article, however it must be pointed out that Iraq was never about oil (or freedom or democracy or blah blah blah), it was always about Israel. Everything else was propaganda for the brainless goyim to believe.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @Escher
  50. @apollonian

    The ‘benefits’ of ‘capitalism’?

    “We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe, warns UN “

    • LOL: apollonian
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Paul C.
  51. @Godfree Roberts

    “Government spending in the United States was last recorded at 37.7 percent of GDP in 2016 . Government Spending To GDP in the United States averaged 36.63 percent from 1970 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 42.90 percent in 2009 and a record low of 33.10 percent in 1973.”

    Trading Economics

    Government Pensions 7% GDP
    Government Health Care + 8% GDP
    Government Education + 5% GDP
    National Defense + 5% GDP
    Government Welfare + 2% GDP
    All Other Spending + 9% GDP
    Total Government Spending 36% GDP
    Federal Deficit + 5% GDP

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  52. “The American decline is largely self-inflicted. The US chooses its government by popularity contests among provincial lawyers rather than by competence.”

    I think you meant to say Israel chooses our government, and plunders our Treasury, according to its sacred whims.

    If it’s all about oil, why not invade Mexico? It’s still their second largest source of foreign income. And we wouldn’t have to finance a conquering army, a few regiments from Arizona’s National Guard could probably topple the country in a weekend. Then we could also legalize and tax their drug trade for more profits.

    To ignore this opportunity would be blatant anti-semitism. Israel and its supporters are always in need of more funds.

    • Replies: @Anon
  53. @Cyrano

    One other individual of his ethnic background
    ——————————————————
    Hitler and Trump had/have it right. Stalin/Bernie had/have it wrong.

    • Agree: apollonian
    • Replies: @Cyrano
  54. Donald Drumph was put at the helm of the USS America, just as Captain Smith was put at the helm of the RMS Titanic, both chosen to manage the destruction of their “ships”.

    http://mileswmathis.com/titan.pdf

    Another great piece by Fred.

  55. AaronB says:
    @Priss Factor

    A little bit crazy, but I actually think your analysis is more correct than Freds. Especially about the status and power worshipping mentality of todays Asians, which is really a bit extreme, and the negative side of the flexibility and adaptability provided by not having firm metaphysical beliefs.

    I just returned from a two month trip to Asia. I don’t think America is going down anytime soon, and I don’t think Asia will be able to challenge America any time soon, unfortunately.

    People who are unhappy with America try and find hope in China or Russia. These are their two great hopes.

    That’s understandable, but I think doomed to disappoint.

    If you really want an alternative to the modern global system, I think you got to go to small, poor, out of the way countries.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  56. Andy says:

    Anoter advantage of China is that it has a largely homogeneous population (of high IQ people!) whereas the US imports millions of low IQ population each year and its racial problem is becoming more and more intractable

  57. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent summary , thank you Reed , and thank you Unz .

  58. Moi says:
    @WorkingClass

    If it weren’t for unbridled greed, there would be no reason for the existence of the US.

    PS: US will never bring home its legions, instead it will exercise the Samson Option and take everyone down with it.

  59. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @james charles

    Who believes the UN ???

    • Replies: @james charles
  60. Moi says:
    @Isabella

    Americanism is a terminal disease.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  61. Moi says:
    @Priss Factor

    To be a real Jew, you have to born a Jew. It is the same for Hindus. Someone should tell Tulsi Gabbard she cannot convert to Hinduism–she will not be accepted by most Hindus. This is the key reason why Hindus do not believe in propagating their religion.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anonymous
  62. Moi says:
    @Priss Factor

    In 1923, the British novelist D. H. Lawrence offered a grim assessment of America and Americans: “All the other stuff, the love, the democracy, the floundering into lust, is a sort of by-play. The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted.”

    ps: it won’t ever melt!

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  63. @WorkingClass

    Just viewing the short term prospects for us US proles, one is tempted to say, out of fear, “I Love Big Brother.” Or be prepared to receive a bullet to the back of the head. Great article, Fred.

  64. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @FelicityRules

    Felicity Rules

    ” If it’s all about oil, why not invade Mexico? It’s still their second largest source of foreign income. And we wouldn’t have to finance a conquering army, a few regiments from Arizona’s National Guard could probably topple the country in a weekend. Then we could also legalize and tax their drug trade for more profits ”

    I am affraid that with guys like yours the Empire is over . The Empire can not defeat miserable Afganistan , will not be able to defeat Venezuela , and you want to occupy Mexico ( 2 million Km2 , 125 million inhabitants ) with a few yankee fatsos of the Arizona National guard ( I guess that you would choose fatsos of anglo roots , not mexican fatsos from south Arizona ) . My God , the Empire is over , it is a pity , for a time it was such a shiny beautiful Empire , but in the long run no Empire can survive his own morons .

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  65. A critical look at our latest “savor”.

  66. @Godfree Roberts

    Why do you guess they are even? Do you know what the respective tax and subsidy rules are wrt R & D?

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  67. Moi says:
    @neutral

    Yes, it was about Israel. And you can also thank the Jews for the destruction of the WASP culture, which was the core of the US (and I am not defending whiteness) since its founding.

  68. @Isabella

    I would like to agree, Isabella, but I’m not so optimistic. I’m reminded of Adam Smith’s quote: “There is a lot of ruin in a nation.” Meaning it takes a hell of a lot to ruin/destroy a (great) country. Fred may be right that our ruling psychopaths would rather die in nuclear holocaust than give up their empire. And, though I’d like to believe it, I’m not convinced that Putin now possesses unstoppable weapons unmatched in the US arsenal. Where is the independent proof?

  69. wayfarer says:

    All that Americans need to do, at this dark night of its nation’s soul, is simply begin reverse engineering anything and everything that’s not nailed down, from Israeli startups to Chinese robotics.

    It’s feasible to rapidly rebuild an economy. Just think, Japan and Germany, post World War ll.

    To succeed, citizens will need to scrap public education, get in front of every imaginable knowledge curve, and start steamrolling through government corruption and red-tape.

    Once people start smelling the money, they’ll begin circling like hungry sharks, ready to rip apart and eat up, every defenseless opportunity.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  70. Anon[253] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes Fred, as I am sure you are well aware and has been stated succinctly and in detail by previous commentators, It is over. The horse is out of the barn. The US is in a state of free fall and many don’t seem to get that. However, economic and social gravity are at work and the altitude is rapidly dropping. Bad things are on the horizon for those that created this cluster#uck. Maybe this time at some of perpetrators will be caught and dealt with properly. It is sick but it could be something good for a change.

  71. The problem with the U.S. is the Zionist control of the money creation via their privately owned FED which creates money out of thin air and creates debt for every dollar created and with the power over our money and our lives, thus began the Zionist banking cabal wars starting with WWI and right down to the Mideast wars which were instigated by Zionist Israel and the Zionist controlled deep states attack on the WTC.

    The Zionist NWO kabal which is in control of the U.S. and Israel and Britain created AL CIADA aka ISIS and all the offshoots to give the excuse to crack down on what little freedoms were left in these countries and to launch a search and destroy mission on the Mideast , all for the benefit of the Zionist plan for a Zionist controlled NWO!

    See The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed and The Committee of 3oo by Dr. John Coleman and the Protocols of Zion , the whole SATANIC ZIONIST plan is laid out for the Zionist NWO!

  72. AaronB says:
    @follyofwar

    There is a lot of ruin in a nation.” Meaning it takes a hell of a lot to ruin/destroy a (great) country

    This is an important point.

    The US is having a little bit of a bad period, and everyone is rushing to say it’s completely finished for all time.

    Ironically, Russia and China, who they pin their hopes on, are recovering from their own bad periods.

    It just goes to show – great nations go through bad periods, and then rise again. Its natural.

    And its debatable just how bad a period the US is going through. I think its overstated, although there are undoubtedly some serious problems that need to be addressed.

    Britian after the exuberance of the Elizabethan period went into an alarming decline, and was overshadowed by the Netherlands, which was having its Golden Age and beating Britain in trade and war.

    For a while there, it looked like the Dutch would become the new Great Power. But it was not to be. Britian got its act together and went on to become an empire.

    While I admit the rot goes deep in America, travelling has made me aware that the rest of the world is in bad shape also. I’m actually a bit more optimistic about America than I was.

  73. Rurik says:

    A major purpose of the destruction of Iraq was to get control of its oil and put American forces on the border of Iran, another oil power. The current attempt to starve the Iranians aims at installing a American puppet government.

    yea, right

    it’s about oil.

    Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It’s the war the neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It’s the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/golden-oldies-tom-friedman-telling-an-arab-society-to-suck-on-this/

    does Fredo think Thomas Friedman is speaking of oil executive when he speaks of those 25 people, or are they just possibly Jewish supremacist neocon Zionists?

    Hmmm..

    Anyone with a brain bigger than an opossum, knows by now that 9/11 was orchestrated to get Americans to destroy ‘seven Muslim nations (Israel considers inconvenient), in a five year’ time frame. (which we are woefully lagging behind!)

    Who believes for one moment that 9/11 was orchestrated by oil executives or even the MIC?

    That’s as absurd as the nineteen Arabs with box cutters.

    No, the Eternal Wars for Israel that have destroyed Iraq and Libya and menaced Syria and now Iran, are not being waged for ‘American’ Empire. That’s laughable.

    When bb comes to our capital, like a Caesar to a conquered vassal state, and hectors our president that we need a war with Iran – pronto, is he doing so at the behest of oil executives? Or Jewish supremacist Zionists?

    Hmmm..

    The ongoing coup in Venezuela seeks control of another vast oil reserve. It will also serve to intimidate the rest of Latin America by showing what can happen to any country that defies Washington. Why are American troops in Nigeria? Guess what Nigeria has.

    The wars in Yemen and the sabre rattling at Venezuela, are at least not directly motivated by Zionists, at least as far as I can tell. But I do believe it all has to do with the ‘unilateral power’ in the world today, and crushing any dissent from ((Washington, DC)). And that unilateral power is not Bubba with his Ford pickup in heartland ZUSA, in spite of the varied attempts to blame all these evils on something malignant in the ‘greedy, militant American soul’, which is a new shtick of Fredo’s ever since Trump called Mexican invaders unflattering names.

    Note that Iraq and Iran, in addition to their oil, are geostrategically vital to a world empire. Further, the immensely powerful Jewish presence in the US supports the Mid-East wars for its own purposes.

    More bullshit.

    Jewish supremacists are not simply ‘supporting’ (4×4 Ford F150-driving / Trump voting) Bubba’s imperial theft of the world’s oil, rather they are the motivating principle for all these zio-wars. Duh.

    None of which have oil as their motivation. But by blaming it on oil, professional obfuscators and liars can impugn working class White men in heartland America who drive pickups and voted for Trump. Those damn Deplorables that Fredo now loses his bladder over.

    If it were up to the typical American, we’d have good relations with Russia, and we’d be tough with China on trade, and we’d leave S. America and the rest of the world alone.

    It isn’t Bubba and his dark quest for Empire that is driving all the insanity. No.

    It’s the men who orchestrated 9/11, and set in motion the agenda of turning the 21st century into a bloody horror show, just like they did in the last century.

    Nothing would make ((them)) happier than seeing a massive conventional war between Russia and Europe- turning Europe and Russia into a mass-conflagration of slaughter, with American boys and girls tossed in for good measure.

    As Isabella noted above-

    Putin: “Put Intermediate sites in Europe and use just one, and not only will we fire on the European site that sent it, but we will also take out the “decision making centre”, wherever this is”.

    He isn’t talking about DC, but rather Tel Aviv. The only thing that is going to prevent more wars is when the world’s people all understand who is behind all these God damn wars.

    And all of Fredo’s dissembling to the contrary, it isn’t Bubba the Redneck Deplorable, hell-bent on Empire.

    • Agree: foolisholdman
  74. @Bruce County

    Washington doesn’t even need to threaten Canada with a gun–Canada’s not Iran. All they need to do is just buy and brainwash your élites, which is precisely what they’ve done.

    Or were you under the impression that the likes of Justin Trudeau was going to stand up for Canada’s sovereignty? (Now, Pierre Trudeau maybe. But definitely not Little Lord Justin.)

  75. Uh, Fred…

    The U.S. is now a net exporter of oil.

  76. @Godfree Roberts

    I read numbers somewhat lower than Mr. 3-Cranes, at ~ 20% to 25% of GDP during the middle of this decade. Your numbers for the US are in the 0.8% to 1.0% range.

    From your reply, I think I see the problem. Is this graph supposed to be a display of R&D spending? I write that because you mentioned that in your attempt to figure out what I meant. If that’s the case, I retract my reply (not a fan of ANY government spending that is unConstitutional to begin with), but forget my numbers – your graph must be missing part of the title, Mr. Roberts.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  77. @follyofwar

    About that “lot of ruin in a nation” bit, it does indeed take a long time for real wealth, real human capital, and the reputations that go with that to dissipate. Since you mentioned Adam Smith’s statement, I’ll bring up Peak Stupidity’s take here – Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3.

  78. wayfarer says:
    @wayfarer

    Of course, there are always the not so legal vigilante opportunities, like shaking down your community drug dealers.

    One can always imagine, cleaning up America’s streets and walking away with some easy money.

    $24 Million, Drugs, Weapons, Seized in Drug Bust.

  79. @llloyd

    I don’t have too much experience on that small-scale foreign exchange business, though I thought, Lloyd, that you could sent the money in RMB to Bank of America and keep it in that currency pretty much until you want to take it out in dollars at the machine or inside the bank in the US (without getting bilked too bad).

    The grass roots doesn’t matter so much in these huge currency matters, IMO. This is high-level often-war-causing stuff, in which the reserve currency has been dollars since Bretton Woods, at the time WWII was still going on, and before that the English Pound, and before that some other various Euro powerful nations in turn. There’s no particular reason it has to be, but it sure seems like 1/2 to 1 century is the longest a country ends up “owning” the money. Time’s about up over here.

  80. @Isabella

    This? “Putin delivers annual address to Russia’s Federal Assembly”?

    Sounds about right. So funny – YouTube tells you that RT is funded by Russia.

  81. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Bruce County

    I agree .. Canada is “not” under America’s boot.

    That’s because the America see no advantage in placing its boot upon Canada’s neck as long as Canada, recognizing its absolute dependence on the US for its territorial integrity and economic prosperity, remains subservient, sending token military forces wherever NATO directs, extraditing foreign nationals as America requires, and assimilating every appalling American cultural meme.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @Anon
  82. The idea that war is fought for good, noble purposes to do something nice for somebody, is a result of the education and culture which promotes the war over slavery myth. As if anyone would murder over half a million of his own people to do something nice for somebody else. As if war was about doing good for others.

    Of course the three myths that control our culture: the myth of the jewish holocaust, the myth of the war over slavery, and the myth of the birth of jesus have control of people’s minds. Just saying that you don’t believe the myth and you will be attacked as a jew hating nazi, a racist who is defending slavery, or an evil person who is going to hell.

    That is the point of the myth. The believers have been classically conditioned just like Pavlov’s dogs. When you say you don’t believe it, they hear the bell and start salivating with fear and anger.

    War does not have a cause. It has a purpose. No one goes to war to do something nice for somebody else. The myth enforces the war machine, not domestic freedom and equality.

    Here is Lincoln’s first inaugural address where he states his purpose: to make the confederate states bow down and pay their taxes.:

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/lincoln1.asp

    Look for the following points:

    1) “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.”

    2) “I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution–which amendment, however, I have not seen–has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. To avoid misconstruction of what I have said, I depart from my purpose not to speak of particular amendments so far as to say that, holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.”

    3) “In doing this there needs to be no bloodshed or violence, and there shall be none unless it be forced upon the national authority. The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere.”

    There. He said it. The purpose of Lincoln’s war was to make them pay their taxes ( to collect the duties and imposts). These were import taxes collected by the Union Fort Sumpter at Charleston Harbor. Now you see why the South Carolina troops fired on Ft. Sumpter? It was essentially the IRS. The official name of the war is “The Great Rebellion”, because the succession was a tax rebellion, and Lincoln invaded to MAKE THEM PAY.

    If you believe war is about doing something nice, you are brainwashed.

    Now watch the hatred and anger directed at me for telling the truth. That is how myths work. Stop believing the myth and stop the war machine.

    • Agree: The scalpel
  83. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @CanSpeccy

    As the victor in WW2, the US assimilated its defeated foe Germany to the Western alliance with mutually beneficial results. But as the victor in the Cold War, the US refused to assimilate Russia to the Western Alliance. As a result, Russia has been forced into an ever tighter economic and military relationship with China, as it has been targeted by the Western alliance for dismemberment and occupation along the lines of the Ukraine. Increasingly, this looks to have been a huge error of judgment.

  84. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @flashlight joe

    The idea that war is fought for good, noble purposes to do something nice for somebody…

    Surely no one believes that.

    War is, obviously, about domination and exploitation. Thing is, every power, fearing its rivals, must prepare to dominate and exploit others before others exploit it. Hence, every power is liable to aggression whenever circumstances are opportune, or even when they are not that promising but look better now than further down the road.

    Thus the appeal of global empire, a state where the waste and misery of war no longer prevails.

    Unfortunately, the current model of world empire is crap: universal racial genocide in the name of diversity, and cultural assimilation to the US model, i.e., a culture that is no more than the trivial and often disgusting byproduct of the money-making activities of digital gangsters and vendors of fast food.

    And the alternative? Chinese techno-Bolshevism, God help us. Or can we escape such a horrendous fate by all converting to Judaism?

  85. xpis says:

    at least we have some free thinkers in this country . Thank you Fred. It maybe the water in Jocotepec

  86. @foolisholdman

    Of course, soon after I posted this, I realised that both I and Fred were wrong, namely that

    The US chooses its government by popularity contests among provincial lawyers

    is over optimistic, the US does not, in fact, choose its government in this manner or any other, it is stuck with a self-perpetuating clique, known as “The Deep State”.

    • Agree: Hail, bluedog
  87. TKK says:
    @Isabella

    Putin addressing the concerns of the people?

    That’s hilarious. You arm chair pontificaters.

    Have you been to Russia in the past 5 years? Outside of the elite and people who are dialed into the Government- it is a living hell.

    You have to bribe physicians to prescribe antibiotics or pain killers. You have to bribe Mozgaz to get the gas on when it is thirty below and snowing. The cost of living in Russia is outrageous compared to even parts of Western Europe that are expensive (Austria, Switzerland) and the services you are provided with are sketchy.

    If you slander or disparage Putin on social media, you are paid a visit at 3AM by his thugs. OR, they gaslight you and move your belongings around your home while you are gone and leave threatening notes.

    Putin is a ruthless clever thieving billionaire thug. His merit is that he does not tolerate immigrants or PC bullshit- but to paint him as an ethical savior who has a leg up on America is catastrophically wrong and ignorant.

    Believe me- EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WANTS TO LIVE IN AMERICA. Not the 1% who can jet in and out of all countries, but the rank and file know that America is still the best place to have a chance at a peaceful and productive life.

    It might hold on for another 25 years, if immigration can be stopped, the media muzzled and blacks pulled off the government tit- brutally and permanently.

    • Troll: follyofwar
  88. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    The gender ideologies and other social experiments fanatically sponsored by the UN-USA & Europe are not very appreciated in many places of the world , and even in the ” west ” they are not liked by the 50% of masculine population .

  89. Are you rejoicing the coming power of Chinese? If the West hadn’t been so foolish in dishing out its discoveries like it was going out of style to the rest of the world, it would not be facing the looming threat!

  90. Sparkon says:


    Female fingers grasping that globe…

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  91. peterAUS says:
    @animalogic

    What’s that, 36,000 troops , plus however many “tail” troops, specialists etc. This from the current battalion level (800 approx) ?

    It is.
    I’d add naval and air forces too. Say, a Task Force around an aircraft carrier often in Australian ports and a decent, permanent, air force base.

    Of course, to accommodate the former, an extension of current port facilities and capabilities, where required. With an attached bases/accommodation, naturally, for US personnel.
    As for the later, just a decent base. Or two.

    All in all…I’d say….ball park figure….50 000 personnel with sizable real estate.

    And all Australians (the right -white -Australians) will support it

    Nope. The majority of non-yellow (and non-Muhammadan, of course) Australians will support it, though.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  92. peterAUS says:
    @AaronB

    I don’t think America is going down anytime soon, and I don’t think Asia will be able to challenge America any time soon, unfortunately.

    People who are unhappy with America try and find hope in China or Russia. These are their two great hopes.

    That’s understandable, but I think doomed to disappoint.

    Yep.

    Not so sure about

    If you really want an alternative to the modern global system, I think you got to go to small, poor, out of the way countries.

    though.
    Another topic.

  93. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Will Trump be the American Gorbachev ?

  94. peterAUS says:
    @AaronB

    Pretty much.
    Especially:

    The US is having a little bit of a bad period, and everyone is rushing to say it’s completely finished for all time.

    Ironically, Russia and China, who they pin their hopes on, are recovering from their own bad periods.

    And its debatable just how bad a period the US is going through. I think its overstated, although there are undoubtedly some serious problems that need to be addressed.

    As for

    While I admit the rot goes deep in America, travelling has made me aware that the rest of the world is in bad shape also. I’m actually a bit more optimistic about America than I was.

    Hehehe….I am sure the resident “useful idiots” will feel the same if they spend a year or so LIVING in those vaunted “alternatives”.

    • Replies: @anon
  95. Cyrano says:
    @joeshittheragman

    It doesn’t matter if you don’t live in the 3rd reich. As long as the 3rd reich lives in you. Or maybe wait for the 4th one – good luck.

  96. wayfarer says:
    @Sparkon

    Mother Earth: “As our planet Earth is considered the source of all its living beings and inanimate things.”

  97. peterAUS says:
    @TKK

    A bit harsh, but…agree, with the most of it.

  98. @Priss Factor

    What a load of rubbish!

    You wrote:

    “Chinese population will fall by half with each generation due to low birthrates.”

    Now below is the data for Chinese population growth in billions since 1960:

    1960 0.671621
    1965 0.738904
    1970 0.843601
    1975 0.941655
    1980 1.016750
    1985 1.095610
    1990 1.198880
    1995 1.267690
    2000 1.312130
    2005 1.351540
    2010 1.390420
    2015 1.428360
    2016 1.434970
    2017 1.441130

    Do you see any halving of the population? The population has more than doubled and during much of that period they supposedly had a one child policy. So let’s say their “one child policy” was fake and it was truly a two child policy. Then the population should have remained constant. So believe what you want, or that their officially declared “policies” mean anything at all, but where did all these people come from? It looks more like a four child policy in actual fact. They only just recently abolished this supposed “one child policy” and you think this will now lead to population decline!?!

    And then you write:

    “But Chinese regard whites as superior, and so, they try to serve and be white in the West.”

    How little you know. Some Chinese may act like grovelling, snivelling, servile coolies, but they sure don’t consider themselves as being inferior to anyone. Sure there are traitors everywhere but Chinese wherever they are serve their own.

    With the Chinese it’s rather straightforward: first comes the family, then the clan, then the nation, and finally the race, and everybody else BTFO.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  99. 2) It’s not ALL about oil anymore – it seems to be a diminishing factor, what with the US producing more oil than it imports, at this point.

    But it is. ALL about. It gets more so with time…I mean, you can’t really get bigger than ALL. But somehow this works.

    Fred is one of the few who sees this clearly.

    The world runs on oil. Controlling the supply conveys almost absolute power over those countries that do not have their own.

    No oil, no 8 billion humans. Very simple.

  100. @Shouting Thomas

    Wrong, the USA is a net importer of around 4 million barrels of oil per day.

    https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6

    Here is some background on that hoax you repeated.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/12/09/no-the-u-s-is-not-a-net-exporter-of-crude-oil/#1b2232814ac1

    Fracking has helped the USA boost oil production, but that is pressuring to get oil out of older wells. Once those have been sucked dry, we’ll need to import lots more. You read news about occasional big new discoveries in the USA, but read the details to see that each amounts only to a few days of oil consumption in the USA.

    The world still runs on oil and the USA wants to control it all. If you doubt the importance, look at a freeway or airport or seaport to see oil at work.

    • Replies: @Lars Porsena
  101. @Priss Factor

    As an American who works overseas and including China this is just pure fantasy. USA’s best and brightest engineers helped make China and helped develop China. China took off from there. They are still happy to accept talented engineers in China. Go spend some time in Vietnam. I can’t believe how many expat silicon valley types are there. Running their own businesses. The smart crowd is leaving the USA in droves. What does it have to offer? Blind militarism and a declining economy?

  102. wayfarer says:

    And as a self-centered humanity remains in a tug-of-war with itself, the proverbial canary in a coal mine, silently slips away into its death slumber.

    source: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2193494-huge-global-extinction-risk-for-insects-could-be-worse-than-we-thought

  103. M Edward says:

    Bolshevism and Neo-Bolshevism have plotted against the U.S. for a century. There is no “pushing” needed….. Furthermore, the U.S. is a colony of Israel, a Soviet client state. It’s really just that simple….

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  104. renfro says:

    I wouldn’t give up on America yet. There are pockets of resistance to the PTB popping up around the country.
    Here we have a Arkansas newspaper suing the state over the Israel Boycott ban….. that it is a newspaper doing the suing is significant.

    ACLU and ACLU of Arkansas to Appeal Ruling on Boycott Ban
    February 21, 2019

    LITTLE ROCK –The Arkansas Civil Liberties Union Foundation and the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation today filed a notice of appeal in their lawsuit challenging a state law that requires government contractors to pledge not to boycott Israel or reduce their fees by 20 percent. The lawsuit, which was dismissed by a U.S. District Court judge in January, was filed on behalf of the Arkansas Times LP. The Times was penalized by the government after it refused to certify that it is not boycotting Israel or Israel-controlled territories.
    The case is being appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit.
    “The district court’s decision would radically limit the First Amendment right to boycott if allowed to stand,” said Rita Sklar, ACLU of Arkansas executive director. “Allowing the government to force people to relinquish their First Amendment rights or pay a penalty for expressing certain political beliefs disfavored by the government would set a dangerous precedent. This ‘pay-to-say’ tax is blatantly unconstitutional and we’re committed to seeing the law struck down.”

  105. @Isabella

    The shit’s already hit the fan. It’s in the air and on its way. The issue now is what minor maneuvering can we do on the personal level.

  106. @Commentator Mike

    You are a complete idiot. You don’t know how to read statistics. China’s rate of population growth has been slowing for a long time. Everyone knows this except you.

    https://www.statista.com/topics/1276/population-in-china/

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  107. Sean says:

    I don’t think the American decline is self inflicted. America became the most powerful country and has 800 foreign (literally) bases solely because it has the most powerful economy in the world, and that was in no small measure due to America’s abundance of arable land, navigable waterways, natural resources ect. The US’s population was high quality but it was prime real estate that others could only dream about. The USA developed advanced technology not because it had a particular system and set of beliefst let Americans innovate and cooperate better than other people, or because Americans are more individualistic and freedom loving than Chinese. Indeed the performance of the Chinese in the Korean war if anything showed the Chinese could no more with less.

    In a few decades China has rocketed close to US level and is in a global hegemon trajectory solely on the quality and size of its population. With access to Russian resources and no intention of giving the US any excuse for a war, China is going to gain on the US and perhaps overtake it in technology. That is their plan and why wouldn’t they? This giant awakening had to happen sooner or later.

    There is not much doubt about the outcome of any competition between China and the West, especially as much of the profits of the ruling class in the West has come from offshoring and investment in China and their economy of scale production suppressing labour’s power in the West. The Chinese and their Western collaborators will just wait Trump out.

  108. @ThreeCranes

    The chart, as its title states, is about Government R&D spending.

    • Replies: @tamo
  109. Anonymous[846] • Disclaimer says:

    Has nothing to do with oil.

    “The Israel Lobby” debunked that idea long ago.

    It has to do with Jews ruling the entire world.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  110. MEFOBILLS says:
    @TKK

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10769041/The-US-is-an-oligarchy-study-concludes.html

    The U.S. is an Oligarchy.

    Western Oligarchs raped Russia in the 90’s. OK, most of them were Jews – but still Western. The (((harvard))) boys foisted dollar debts on Russia, and then converted Russia to an extraction economy. Putin cleverly taxed the Oligarchs and prevented them from further predations.

    No country can survive if it has an internal hostile elite. Nobody here can claim that Russia’s government is hostile to its people. A fair claim can be made that the “international” elite that infest America IS HOSTILE. Why would you immigrate a replacement population if not hostile? Why would you export your industry if not hostile?

    You don’t dig out and convert your economy to first world standards overnight.

    So, the trend lines are clear. The West and U.S. is a finance oligarchy in decline, while Russia is on a ascendant path. These lines will cross over at some point in near future. One could even squint and say that Russia is no longer an Oligarchy of special interests, and is moving into Byzantium mode e.g. symphony of Church and State. Many Russian thinkers are projecting another 40 years or so to consolidate the gains.

    • Replies: @Sir Launcelot Canning
  111. @Carlton Meyer

    Not even counting coal or natural gas:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclemente/2015/04/02/u-s-oil-reserves-resources-and-unlimited-future-supply/

    Leading researchers at Rice University conclude that the U.S. could have 2 trillion barrels of recoverable oil, enough to fully meet our current demand for a ridiculous 285 years!

    https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=33&t=6

    In 2017, the United States consumed a total of 7.28 billion barrels of petroleum products, an average of about 19.96 million barrels per day.

    All you peak oil guys blatantly make up what you want to believe. Here’s what your links you posted say, I will add bolding:

    In 2017, the United States imported approximately 10.14 million barrels per day (MMb/d) of petroleum from about 84 countries. Petroleum includes crude oil, hydrocarbon gas liquids, refined petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel fuel, and biofuels including ethanol and biodiesel. Crude oil accounted for about 79% of U.S. gross petroleum imports in 2017 and non-crude oil petroleum accounted for about 21% of gross petroleum imports.

    In 2017, the United States exported about 6.38 MMb/d of petroleum to 186 countries, of which about 18% was crude oil and 82% was non-crude oil petroleum. The resulting net imports (imports minus exports) of petroleum were about 3.77 MMb/d.

    Because we have refineries with refining capacity. They import crude and sell refined gas. And that was 2017, domestic oil production has been expanding ever since. In 2017 we were producing 80% of our own oil consumption (16 out of 20 M bpd). In 2018 it went up to 90% as per your own links (18 out of 20M bpd). And again, as your Forbes article points out, this is not including natural gas. And the Forbes article points out we are in fact a net exporter of 0.2 M bpd petroleum and petroleum products in 2018, just not crude oil.

    You made the claim our discoveries amounted to “days” of supply based on US consumption. Blatantly, the numbers reported for these discoveries is not days it is centuries. Recoverable oil adds up to trillions of barrels and we are consuming 8 billion a year. That’s 125 years to a trillion in consumption.

    And again, nat gas: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n9050us2a.htm

    Peak oil production is bust for this century. The theory is a now falsified failure. Peak oil demand is a more realistic concern.

    http://peakoilbarrel.com/a-surprising-look-at-oil-consumption/

    Just trying to get the facts straight here. These peak oil arguments about running out in days have not been updated since the late 90’s.

    What would happen if other countries caught up to us in exploration and extraction technology?

    Oil is still a strategic resource but it’s never been more scarce and strategic than it was in WWII in 1940. Back in 1900 oil was a new thing and there were only a couple of known large deposits in the world. One of them was in Texas, which the US exploited for foreign policy leverage, which is what got us in the war with Japan. In WWII nobody even knew that Saudi Arabia had oil.

  112. tamo says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Thank you very much, for clarifying that.

  113. Half baked. Read Moldbug.

    • Replies: @atlantis_dweller
  114. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    People cannot live without banking services, so should there be nationalized banking service for people who are denied service by private banks? It’s incredible that banks can press on the government to make ALL taxpayers bail them out, BUT they get to selectively decide who can and can’t have banking accounts. And as big banks are run by Zionists or globohomo oligarchs, their decisions are ideologically and tribally biased. So, some deep state CIA goon who destroyed other nations can have a bank account, but a dissident voice on the Right or BDS cannot.

    If banks can do stuff like this and get away with it, the government will have to provide state-run banking services and payment services to people. If people who can’t afford healthcare are provided with free healthcare, and if people who can’t use UPS can still rely on US postal service, then people who are denied banking services must have access to financial services through the government. One simply cannot live in the modern world without access to banking. Any bank that got bailouts from taxpayers via the government should not be allowed to do this.

  115. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Owen

    That is where the master comes. How can you get rid of your brain occupied and parasitized by Zionist?
    That i s he only brain you got.

  116. @Lars Porsena

    You don’t understand your own links. One confirms: “The resulting net imports (imports minus exports) of petroleum were about 3.77 MMb/d.”

    FYI – nearly all our petroelum exports are refined products. We import crude, refine it, then export it.

    You should read your own links. Those oil reserve “facts” are not based on studies, just someone saying “we could have”

    One link is a deep stater from the CFR, not Rice, who cites no studies when she said “could have”

    https://www.cfr.org/experts/amy-myers-jaffe

    Your other link has the reporter trying to confirm another outragous projection and learns:

    “How’d he arrive at 900 billion barrels? I figured there’s no harm in asking. And the folks at Continental Resources replied. They sent me a “white paper” from 2011 that said the Bakken “could potentially contain recoverable reserves of up to 24 billion barrels of oil equivalent.” The document had no author. Nobody put their name on it and it contained no quotes attributed to anyone.”

    If the USA has plenty of oil, big oil wouldn’t be prowling around Northern Alaska, Russia, Angola, and Iraq.

    • Replies: @Lars Porsena
  117. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump warns military to untie from Madurai

    ———————

    Medea Benjamin
    @medeabenjamin
    BREAKING the Venezuelan opposition had a press conference today in Washington DC. What what @ArielElyseGold and I did

    722
    12:38 PM – Feb 21, 2019

    The stupidest sheeple on earth wonder “why they hate us”

  118. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    People flee to the only house standing tall intact ( may be extremity heated and covered with smoke) building in a wild fire zone . It gets worst when the fire was started by the building still standing.

    That’s why America looks so alluring .

  119. @Pft

    If China stopped selling its stuff to America, it would not only be a glorious revolution, it would make America great again, but it would deprecate the Armed rule-making [nation] state (ARMS) named the USA, since the monopolies the designers of the ARMS own would be rendereed worthless.

    The problem at the USA is Article one and Article two persons are puppets of the economic system known as Zionism (EZ). Oil is a buggy works technology, solar, wind with hydro (HSW) are no longer the future, in 2200 different places in the world, sufficient energy can be put generated, stored and released as needed to the power grid. Point is that any one of those 2200 places can provide sufficient energy for the entire world.
    As soon as a few lobbyist take a vacation there will be no demand for oil.

  120. @Cyrano

    “I think that Bernie Sanders was the best hope that US had in the last 50 years. And they killed that hope by stealing his nomination and highly probable presidency from him.”

    Yep; they apparently did that because they wanted the evil orange clown in the white house. With Sanders out of the way, with orange clown pretending to be a somewhat reasonable person and Clinton coming across as a caricature of herself, they got their loyal agent orange clown elected.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357937-trump-pollster-sanders-would-have-defeated-trump-in-the-presidential

    • Agree: Cyrano
    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Cyrano
    , @Patricus
  121. @obwandiyag

    Lies, lies, and statistics. Yes the growth rate has been decreasing but so what? It’s not as if they are halving each generation as the commenter I was responding to claimed, and no forecast model predicts that.

  122. @MEFOBILLS

    As a white Christian American I do believe that the elites are hostile to me. My own government is definitely not on my side. Now if only the other white Christian Americans around me would only realize that this is true … but, no, they get their “information” from the tee vee or Fartbook.

  123. @tamo

    It’s not that complicated!
    Thank you for the common sense comment.

  124. @follyofwar

    Your translation of Smith’s statement is off. Smith understood the difference between a nation and a country, and it’s not clear that you do. A country is a defined geographical area. A nation is the people within that defined geographic area who have had shared experiences, The shared experiences may affect people differently. Some benefit, some lose. For example, during Smith’s time, the Craft Guilds were slowly being crushed through legislation while the Merchant Guilds were left virtually untouched. That allowed the Merchant Guilds to move into production of goods, which was the jurisdiction of Craft Guilds, and eventually the industrial revolution style mills. Smith was a philosopher, and spoke of the “political economy”, understanding full well that political decisions shape the economy. Therefore, the “ruin” in the nation is those who have lost due to political decisions, economic or otherwise.

  125. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Harold Smith

    ““I think that Bernie Sanders was the best hope that US had in the last 50 years. ”

    Yeah right. Sanders is just another scammer, like Trump and all the rest of them:

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  126. @M Edward

    the U.S. is a colony of Israel, a Soviet client state.

    I think you have that backwards. While Israel technically did not exist until after WWII, it was in charge of the USSR. The Soviets were Israel’s client state, and to some degree so is Russia. Israel had sucked just about everything it could have out of the USSR, so they just concentrated more of their efforts on the US. What is simple, however, is that the government of every “Western liberal democracy” is occupied territory.

  127. @John Q Public

    I am a Moldbug enthusiast. But why is this here half-baked?

  128. Anon[358] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Zionist Youtube take out Ryan Dawson. Youtube sides with IDF death squads over justice for Palestinians.

  129. @Godfree Roberts

    You get marks for modesty and honesty 🙂

  130. Russian says:
    @TKK

    Blatant lies.

    You are making things up, inventing things you would like to believe.

    Among my circle (applied scientists) many prefer to stay in Russia, because real academic freedom of doing your thing and money you get by oursorcing/selling tech abroad make you very well off, able to afford anything.

    IT sector is divided, but people who leave Russia do so not on the economic, but on a political grounds. Russia is far from ideal and has its problems, sure, but what you are writing is a bullshit.

    We still have weak property rights and overall cost of doing business is too great for the given risks and small domestic market, but we don’t have those problems with “bribing doctor to prescribe you pills” which is an absolute bullshit.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  131. ILL_WILL says:

    That globe shot is showing the US on 9/11/01 with Hurricane Erin about to hit NY then taking a right angle turn out to sea haha

  132. @onebornfree

    “Yeah right. Sanders is just another scammer, like Trump and all the rest of them:”

    Yes of course they’re all scammers, but there’s a reason they picked the orange clown scammer rather than the Sanders scammer or the Clinton scammer. And I think that reason is because orange clown is actually the most evil of the three; evil enough to risk planetary extinction in pursuit of world domination and control, whereas Sanders probably isn’t.

    So in a sense Sanders probably is “the best hope that the U.S. had in the last 50 years.”

    • Disagree: apollonian
  133. TG says:

    Indeed, well said. A few minor quibbles:

    “The United States once dominated economically by making better products at better prices, ran a large trade surplus, and barely had competitors.” Wrong. The United States once dominated by NOT competing – until around 1970, foreign trade was a negligible fraction of the economy. The United States historically was a functional autarky. With a modest population, abundant resources, and no need to worry about competing with slave-labor level wages, America’s economy and power boomed.

    “The US chooses its government by popularity contests among provincial lawyers rather than by competence.” Utterly false. Our government is one of oligarchy, democratic elections have essentially zero impact on policy. Our government is not incompetent because of ‘democracy’ but because our elites and their institutions are corrupt and insulated from the consequences of their decisions. One is reminded that Chinese industry is still overwhelmingly US industry that was moved their because US elites wanted quick shot-term profits – and were just too greedy to think about the long-term consequences of giving away the work of centuries to a large competitor nation.

  134. @AaronB

    You don’t seem to know much about demographics and genetics.

    Sure, if the United States was still 85%+ white, we could fall and rise again. But we’re not. Whites are a minority of children being born today. A country that is 15% black and 25% Mestizo (and growing) will not rebound to the former heights of a country that was 90% white. Won’t happen.

    You’re basically arguing that a high school that was once 100% black and a basketball powerhouse will rise again to be a basketball powerhouse even though it’s now 50% Asian and 50% Mestizo.

    Just because this produce has the label “United States” doesn’t mean that it’s the same as the old product. Grow up.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @AaronB
  135. @Godfree Roberts

    It doesn’t say anything about R&D anywhere on it. Look at your image again.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  136. Biff says:
    @onebornfree

    You are probably the most whacked out idealist on this site. In your mind all the ills of society is because of socialism.
    Well next time your toilet backs up, don’t use that socialist phone network to call a plumber to clean those socialized drainpipes that keeps your stinky shit flowing down hill and away to be socially treated – just move to certain parts of India where none of that takes place – it’s your idealist utopia. Wallow in it.
    And please refrain from that socialized, government organized power grid – it’s the only thing that keeps you on this site spewing your nonsense.
    And stay off those socialized roads.

    • Disagree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Patricus
  137. dfordoom says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    Those troops, and not that many in the first place, are stationed there. Majority of Australians do not mind that at all.

    The Australian Left used to mind very much. Now Australia has no Left so it doesn’t matter.

    And relentless pro-American propaganda in the media has convinced Australians that being occupied is a good thing. America is now seen as good by the Australian media because it stands for civilised values – the awesomeness of homosexuality, the obvious truth that a man who puts on a frock instantly becomes a woman, the fact that a woman’s most precious right is the right to murder her unborn baby, the God-given right of men to use the ladies’ room if they want to, the desirability of slut culture. And most of all, the awesomeness of homosexuality. If we weren’t occupied by the Americans those evil Russians might sabotage our finest cultural achievement, the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras.

    A lot of things can happen, including some bad, to Russia and/or China.

    A lot of things can happen, including some bad, to the U.S. as well.

  138. Escher says:
    @Thomm's Purple haired femiNAZI

    I thought the tendency is more for Jewish men to marry Asian women.

  139. Escher says:
    @neutral

    And about maintaining the supremacy of the Petrodollar. Saddam Hussein had started accepting Euros for his oil.

  140. Paul C. says:
    @james charles

    “We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe, warns UN “

    The Club of Rome invented “climate change” as a means to control humanity. We’ve all been deceived. Almost everything “we’re told” is a lie. It’s up to each of us to discern the truth.
    Many on the Unz site understand this.

    What’s also true is our skies are being poisoned daily under the guise of stopping climate change (geo-engineering). Lies, lies and more lies as the population gets sicker.

    • Replies: @james charles
    , @DESERT FOX
  141. Good to see an article that doesn’t blame only the “Jews” seems some people here have a terrible time believing that there can be more than 1 single cause of wars or other troubles.

    I thought all our military heros were required to read and understand Sun Tzu’s Art of War? Seems they skipped a few chapters and cheated on the exam.

    Capitalism always fails. Capitalism is growing and the white population is dying….hmmmm

    The ‘flaw’ (intentional) in capitalism is that it was never intended to improve the conditions of the common man. Capital, was only ever intended to fill the coffers of princes, kings, dukes, barons and lesser nobles so that they would have a medium of exchange for services that they, themselves, were incapable of producing/providing.

    And, as we now see the full long term ‘effects’ of capitalism, wealth disparity, homelessness, drug addiction, increased suicide rates, lowered longevity, stagnant wages, staggeringly high personal, corporate, and sovereign debt levels, increases in personal bankruptcy (particularly health care related), predatory lending, a monopolistic private sector, corporate dominance of government (think ALEC and uncontrolled corporate lobbying), unrestricted immigration (think removal of sanctions on employers for illegals), destruction of unions (& pensions), encouragement of offshoring and destructive mergers and acquisitions via changes to the tax code, massive overspending on the military along with an aggressive empire-building posture, trickle down economics, etc.

    The current situation in the U.S. should not be a surprise… it started about 38 years ago. You voted for it and now you will have to live with it. China is indeed kicking our ass, our “leaders” are far too corrupt to change course, we’ve hit the iceberg already.

    No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

    Welcome to the Saint Reagan Revolution. Have a nice day.

  142. AaronB says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    country that is 15% black and 25% Mestizo (and growing) will not rebound to the former heights of a country that was 90% white. Won’t happen.

    Why not? Where are all the high ability whites gonna go? Will they just vanish? They’re still around, and aren’t going anywhere. The talent pool will continue to have the same absolute number of people, even if a lower fraction of the whole.

    There is a difference between percentages and absolute numbers. All that will have happened is that a large number of slightly less able people will have been added to the pie. That doesn’t diminish the number of more able people. They’re still around.

    Here’s another little secret. A country is great because of its top 15% of people. The average Chinese, or the lower class Chinese, is far from impressive.

    If the gap between the top 15 percent and everyone else is too large, that may create some problems, but Hispanics are a fairly capable people.

    This doesn’t mean I support immigration.

    But adding say 50 million slightly less able people to 250 million slightly more able isn’t exactly going to ruin a country, realistically.

    And other countries may have more serious deficiencies.

  143. @Carlton Meyer

    You don’t understand your own links. One confirms: “The resulting net imports (imports minus exports) of petroleum were about 3.77 MMb/d.”

    I stated:

    And the Forbes article points out we are in fact a net exporter of 0.2 M bpd petroleum and petroleum products in 2018, just not crude oil.

    To clarify, change “crude oil” at the end to “petroleum”. Petroleum products in 2018, not just petroleum. Some gets exported as Vasoline and ABS plastic pellets.

    Says Forbes:

    Significantly, this is the first time this category of weekly crude plus finished products became an export number since the EIA began reporting this information in 1991. This is a far cry from 2005, when that weekly number hit an all-time-high of 14.4 million BPD. As far as I can tell, Bloomberg is correct that this hasn’t happened in the past 75 years.

    But that’s not what the headline claimed. The headline said “oil.”

    FYI – nearly all our petroelum exports are refined products.

    I pointed that out in my original comment, and had to clarify it in this reply to your above objection. Your link says at the end it is 3.77 MMb/d for crude oil only, look near the end:

    So the Bloomberg headline results from a net crude oil import number of 4.0 million BPD and a net finished product export number of 4.2 million BPD. So, indeed when you consider crude oil and finished products, for the week ending 11/30/18, the U.S. was a net exporter of 0.2 million BPD of crude plus finished products.

    But that’s not what the headline claimed. The headline said “oil.”

    Those oil reserve “facts” are not based on studies, just someone saying “we could have”

    https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2009/3012/pdf/FS09-3012.pdf

    Using a geology-based assessment methodology, the U.S. Geological Survey estimated a total of 1.525 trillion barrels of oil in place in seventeen oil shale zones in the Eocene Green River Formation in the Piceance Basin, western Colorado.

    Note this is the “Assessment of In-Place Oil Shale Resources of the Green River Formation, Piceance Basin, Western Colorado”, not the whole US, technically not even all of Colorado, but just a tiny part of it. Seriously. Check the lower right of the large graphic on page 3 showing the formation area shaded in black in the small map of Colorado.

    Amy Myers Jaffe does indeed seem quite triumphant and political about using oil supply gluts to crush Russia which she seems to think only makes money on oil and gas extraction. But this is not about her foreign policy, this is about oil. The 2 trillion estimate is probably quite low. The other Forbes article that I linked tries to explain this:

    Just looking at proven reserves is obviously an overly simplistic approach: the U.S. has had a known oil supply lifetime (called a “Reserves-to-Production ratio”) of just 8-13 years… for the last 70 years! And this won’t change because the large investment outlays in oil projects today, and the irreversible nature of these expenditures, make it more profitable for oil companies to err on the side of caution by under-investing until new information about future market conditions arrives.

    They only go looking for the oil they are going to drill next, they don’t even look for more until they are done drilling and putting in infrastructure for what they already found, and they don’t do that until there is a known market for it. They don’t even know exactly how much will come out of the ground until it is depleted, but these estimate numbers are always low and have always been. They are fairly conservative sure bets worth investing millions in.

    If the USA has plenty of oil, big oil wouldn’t be prowling around Northern Alaska, Russia, Angola, and Iraq.

    If Big Tech had plenty of money they wouldn’t be trying to make any more by constantly trying to collect more data on us to sell to advertisers.

    If Big Ag was making plenty of money of feeding half the planet they wouldn’t be trying to lobby congress to mandate the burning of food as fuel via ethanol blends.

    Come on now.

  144. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting article, and good timing too. China’s president today reiterated China’s commitment to developing its strategic partnership with Iran. The US may have pulled out of the Iran Nuclear Deal, but China remains committed to that deal, and EU doesn’t seem quite ready to jettison it either.

    WSJ reported today that India is ignoring US warning about Huawei and will use their equipment for 5G anyway. Germany is reportedly doing the same.

    Thanks to the Zionist stranglehold on the US and UK, I see the world developing into two factions, one of US-UK-Israel-Saudi Arabia and other Sunni Muslim countries, and the other of Russia-China-Iran, and potentially India, with EU sitting uncomfortably in the middle. F is on the Ziocon side as long as Macron is in office, but once he leaves, France could well join Germany and the rest of the EU and switch side.

    The Europeans were not too enamored with Pence at the recent Munich Security Conference, they all know what a Jew puppet he is, esp. after he used a visit to Auschwitz to convey to the Europeans that if they do not join the US on our antagonism towards Iran, they are as good as anti-Semites. The only 2 people who gave him a standing O after his speech were Javanka. Sad.

    Zionists will turn America into an international pariah, as isolated and alone as Israel.

  145. Cyrano says:
    @Harold Smith

    Socialism means equalizing and socializing – of rich and poor – at the expense of the rich who got that way at the expense of the poor, so you can say – it’s little bit of a payback time. Americans have very clear minds about socialism – that’s because they have been brainwashed during decades long running propaganda. Then they got introduced to a wrong kind of “socialism” – where they were forced to socialize with a wrong kind of people – from alien lands and cultures. That’s not socialism, that’s cheap propaganda stunt, worthy of the Adolf himself. I think they were introduced to that type of “socialism” under the motto: “Fake it, so you don’t have to make it”. I think that the time will eventually come, where the more traditional motto will come into play: “Fake it, until you make it”.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @apollonian
  146. AaronB says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Just because this produce has the label “United States” doesn’t mean that it’s the same as the old product. Grow up.

    No, it definitely won’t be the same product. But nations change character fairly often. Elizabethan England was very different than Georgian England. The one was known as merry and licentious and highly emotional, the other was melancholy, stiff and inexressive, and more Puritan. Nations literally flip over into their opposites. In the past century Jews went from being physical cowards to tough physical adventurers in the Middle East. The Germans went from being the land of poets and thinkers to the land of blood and iron and war.

    America will change, very drastically. Immigration will eventually stop, and the new people absorbed and integrated. Something new will emerge to replace a European civilization that had grown old. Something partly European and probably very capable.

    And yes, I know that ethnic changes aren’t the same thing. And I don’t supplier immigration. I’m just pointing out realities.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  147. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    But all the bright minds come to the US. There is no brain drain in China’s way, but the best and brightest in Asia come to the US.

    Indians have an average IQ of 81. I seriously doubt these bullshit artists will keep US technology at the top for long as whites continue to leave the field. China isn’t sending their best here either. The only ones who could afford to come to the US are sons and daughters of China’s most corrupt, they may be the richest, but they are not the smartest, that’s why mainland Chinese students in US colleges are known for their cheating.

    Asians will serve Asian power only in Asia where they are dominant. When they are in a non-Asian land, they will suck up to the non-Asian power.

    I don’t know. Most Indians I know are like “India #1!” and into all things Indian, even those born and raised here, thanks to the loony left’s constant promotion of multiculturalism that pushes them towards embracing their ethnic heritage. Same goes for mainland Chinese.

    • Replies: @foo123
  148. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Chinese population will fall by half with each generation due to low birthrates.

    We should all be so lucky. Unfortunately I don’t think your math is correct. China’s population is still growing, albeit at a slower pace.

    Meanwhile, the world will continue to be swamped by those poor Indian beggars for a long, long time.

  149. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    If you want to see how advanced a country really is, just look at its bathrooms – not just public restrooms everywhere, but in restaurants, malls and private homes. If a sizable number in the country still have to squat over a hole in the ground, it would be a cruel joke to call it a superpower.

    Chinese president Xi Jinping seems to understand this subtle but crucial point. He embarked on a toilet modernizing crusade in China back in 2015. The goal is to have 100% of restrooms in China, including those in rural homes, modernized by 2030. Maybe then I will take this talk of Chinese threat a bit more seriously.

    Until then, all talk of Chinese threat is a joke.

    India is even more of a joke, as 750m are still without access to a toilet and have to defecate out in the open.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @thatcher1a
  150. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Moi

    To be a real Jew, you have to born a Jew. It is the same for Hindus. Someone should tell Tulsi Gabbard she cannot convert to Hinduism–she will not be accepted by most Hindus. This is the key reason why Hindus do not believe in propagating their religion.

    LOL I don’t think Tulsi got the memo.

    Neither did Ivanka. She thinks it’s for real.

  151. @Cyrano

    All Bernie wants is to give free stuff to the people. He does not talk about Economy.
    Manna from heaven? I do not think so!

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  152. anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Moi

    she will not be accepted by most Hindus

    I am not sure that is a very accurate observation. Hindus understand that an overwhelming majority of their kind have primarily originated from India (Indians and the diaspora). They hunger to see others, especially whiteys, accept their extremist pagan faith. It seems to give them some solace, when they see others as deluded as themselves.

    This is the key reason why Hindus do not believe in propagating their religion.

    Could it be because that their religious elites correctly figure that it would be difficult to sell rapist/gay/androgynous deities, phallus/vagina/devil/animal worship, etc., to the world, except to some whitey hippies (e.g. Tulsi’s mother)? They feel ashamed to proselytise… except to braindead whitey hippies.

    • Replies: @Anon
  153. peterAUS says:
    @Anon

    Pretty much.

    B.T.W. I am sure 90 % of people here disagree with you.

    Just curious will some of those will try to…ahm…educate…you.
    We’ll see soon, I guess.

  154. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    That’s because the America see no advantage in placing its boot upon Canada’s neck as long as Canada, recognizing its absolute dependence on the US for its territorial integrity and economic prosperity, remains subservient, sending token military forces wherever NATO directs, extraditing foreign nationals as America requires, and assimilating every appalling American cultural meme.

    LOL how true. Canada to the US is like NZ to Australia. They just don’t matter.

  155. How old is Fred Reed anyway? I first became aware of him in late 2001. Back then he posted his picture at the top of his articles and I thought he looked ancient even back then.

    • Replies: @republic
  156. anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Russia is culturally much closer

    Of course! Promiscuity, Intoxication, Shamelessness, Racism, Pagan Polytheist Mangod-worship, “Worship” of Joos… there are many such similarities.

  157. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Could it be because that their religious elites correctly figure that it would be difficult to sell rapist/gay/androgynous deities, phallus/vagina/devil/animal worship, etc., to the world, except to some whitey hippies (e.g. Tulsi’s mother)? They feel ashamed to proselytise… except to braindead whitey hippies.

    LOLOL. You really have to wonder what kind of people could be dumb/crazy enough to follow a religion with 33 million gods! It’s no wonder India is such a fucked up country, completely ungovernable. The worst thing is, these nutcases are now invading the US en masse (and soon to be let in by tens of millions more courtesy of Trump), are increasingly running for office, and winning as zealous socialist leftists running in uber liberal districts.

    These bullshit artist nutjobs are not satisfied having completely destroyed their own country, they now want to destroy ours. We are on our way to becoming the next India, completely with people defecating out in the open like our growing homeless population, just like in Mumbai.

  158. Patricus says:
    @flashlight joe

    Agree with Flashlight Joe on the duties and imposts and the Civil War. That was the major cause of the war as far as I can tell from reading books. Of course there were other factors including slavery as a lesser cause. What a waste of lives and treasure.

  159. Patricus says:
    @Harold Smith

    I find it hard to believe the masses in the US will choose Bernie’s socialism. It doesn’t work and the evidence for failure is overwhelming just in the last 100 years. We should stop the migrations of impoverished third worlders. Lacking any education these migrants would be most susceptible to hair brained socialism.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  160. Patricus says:
    @Biff

    Socialist phone network? Last I heard the phone companies are 100% privately owned.

    All those sewage pipes were privately built and private companies collect your water and sewer bill.

    The definition of socialism: the government or community owns the means of production. Some nations have more regulations than others but successful nations are capitalist, including Scandinavians.

    Roads are built by private contractors. Missiles and jets as well.

  161. Zhao says:

    To my understand many kinds of ‘-ism’ are just ‘names’.
    Those well known ‘name’ only has little connections with the actual and really important ‘content’ especially when such ‘-ism’ is still alive.
    So if the ‘-ism’ is still living in our real life, we can always change/update/upgrade the ‘content’ behind ‘name’ by our definition and practice , if we need to keep the ‘name’ alive for our convenience to maintain our stability/faith/propaganda/unity/etc.
    If the ‘a-ism’ is already dead in the long gone history (maybe still living in old books and theory), yet we still need to use the helpful ‘content’ behind this ‘a-ism’ and maybe this ‘a-ism’ has already been polluted/misunderstood/stigmatized, we just invent a new ‘name’ with a new ‘b-ism’ to stand for the ‘content’.
    Doesn’t matter much.
    I can’t understand well that many people seems to be so obsessed with the ‘name’ or ‘-ism’. Hate it or love it, it’s just a ‘name’, dead or living ‘name’.
    It’s not like when really bad time comes, you have to sacrifice yourself for your faith which you call it by a name at this specific time. So what’s the big deal?
    The ‘name’ list keeps on and on: -ism, -ist, freedom, democracy…
    So we don’t really even have to argue about the specific definition of a ‘name’ unless its a propaganda/right of speech/soft power mission.
    The really ‘content’/practice/belief/faith can be so much more complicated/detailed/specific that it can’t be exactly identified under one name for all different people, yet it has to be. Just for our continence: people need names.

  162. Sam J. says:
    @Thomm's Purple haired femiNAZI

    “…Before you know it, they’d wriggle their way to the top like they do everywhere. …”

    HAHAHHA silly Jews. They tried this already and failed. Look at them. Look what happened to them. They control nothing in China.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

    The Jews think far too much of themselves and are screwed. Their hollowing out of the manufacturing of the US was premature before they could guarantee a home in China. The Chinese thing of course is not working out so well. The Chinese are not nice individualist like Europeans that they can manipulate with “caring” for others as the Chinese don’t “care” and will laugh at Jewish cries of “victimization”. Jewish parasitism is only functionally able to work among Europeans and only last so long in each region they go to. I suspect the Western Ukraine take over was to have a plan “B” place to go if they get overrun in Israel. I’m not so sure that will work out in the long run either.

  163. Confucius say: “Commie pollution
    In Caracas need napalm ablution.
    Teddy Roosevelt stick
    Getting big, getting thick.
    Bolton need it for happy solution.”

  164. foo123 says:
    @Anon

    Anon:
    Indians have an average IQ of 81

    Stupid is as stupid says.

    Reality:

    500 million Aryans, 500 million Dravidians and 200 million Asians/Orientals and 100 million or so Afroids — all Indians in India.

    The 500 million Aryans (the ‘Indo’ in Indo-European specifically refers to them) have IQ’s smiliarly distributed to all other Europeans.

    the 500 million Dravidians aren’t too far behind (and in some cases ahead). Ramanujan was a Dravidian.

    Afroids are anothery story entirely of course. Orientals same as other Chinese.

  165. dfordoom says: • Website
    @animalogic

    A full corps, eh ? What’s that, 36,000 troops , plus however many “tail” troops, specialists etc. This from the current battalion level (800 approx) ? And all Australians (the right -white -Australians) will support it ?

    Of course all Australians will support it, if they’re told to. They’ll be told that those evil Russians or those evil Chinese are going to invade us and they’ll believe it. The right -white -Australians worship America.

  166. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor

    Please tell us what you think is wrong with your “neo-Nazis”.

    Considering that ‘the Nazis’ did not do what is claimed of them, I fail to see the problem with the “neo” batch.

    Please elaborate.

  167. yurivku says:
    @TKK

    Have you been to Russia in the past 5 years? Outside of the elite and people who are dialed into the Government- it is a living hell.

    I’ve been, actually I still there and I should state you’re scumbag liar. Probably you’re getting your 30 pieces of silver for that.

    Believe me- EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WANTS TO LIVE IN AMERICA. Not the 1% who can jet in and out of all countries, but the rank and file know that America is still the best place to have a chance at a peaceful and productive life.

    You are idiot and all who will belive you also are. Being Russian I’ve been more that in 30 countries, 5 times in USA on business and I don’t want go to that shithole coutry being rulled by stupid criminals and populated with scumbags like you are.

    • Agree: apollonian
  168. Wally says:
    @Cyrano

    No it doesn’t.

    Communism / socialism means losing power to all controlling Big Government.

    ‘wrong kind of socialism / communism’ LOL

    There is only one kind. Communism / socialism, it’s the most failed form of governance the world has ever seen.

    Even After Sanders, Harris, and Others Enter Race, Bookies Have Donald Trump as Massive 2020 Favorite: https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/even-after-sanders-harris-and-others-enter-race-bookies-have-donald-trump-as-massive-2020-favorite/

    • Replies: @Cyrano
    , @nsa
    , @james charles
  169. yurivku says:
    @Russian

    Agree. There are some people who want to go (mainly Jews), but absolute majority are patriots.
    I’m not fond of Putin, but I’m ready to recall my military speciality when time comes.

    There are problems in Russia, but where aren’t?

    • Replies: @yurivku
  170. @Anon

    Play the wo/man, not the ball?

  171. @Paul C.

    “For climate change, there are many scientific organizations that study the climate. These alphabet soup of organizations include NASA, NOAA, JMA, WMO, NSIDC, IPCC, UK Met Office, and others. Click on the names for links to their climate-related sites. There are also climate research organizations associated with universities. These are all legitimate scientific sources.

    If you have to dismiss all of these scientific organizations to reach your opinion, then you are by definition denying the science. If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition. 

    So if you deny all the above scientific organizations there are a lot of un-scientific web sites out there that pretend to be science. Many of these are run by lobbyists (e.g.., Climate Depot, run by a libertarian political lobbyist, CFACT), or supported by lobbyists (e.g., JoannaNova, WUWT, both of whom have received funding and otherwise substantial support by lobbying organizations like the Heartland Institute), or are actually paid by lobbyists to write Op-Eds and other blog posts that intentionally misrepresent the science.”
    https://thedakepage.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/how-to-assess-climate-change.html

    • Disagree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @Paul C.
    , @apollonian
  172. @Anon

    hardly a joke. have you seen pictures of Chinese cities and projects? It makes the US look 3rd worldish. Trump said exactly the same thing, yet he still lets neocons run him.

  173. Erebus says:
    @AaronB

    From Comment #59

    I just returned from a two month trip to Asia.

    I noted your impressions, but Asia is a big place. There’s a great variety of peoples and cultures between Japan and Saudi Arabia, and I’m curious which you’re actually commenting on.

    The US is having a little bit of a bad period, and everyone is rushing to say it’s completely finished for all time.

    It isn’t simply a “bad period” from where I sit, and I don’t think any serious person would claim “it’s completely finished for all time”. In the first place it’s not that “bad” (yet), and it has a long way to go before it gets genuinely bad for no greater reason than that it’s starting its decline from a fully developed state. A lot of things have to go to hell for it to become hell.

    And its debatable just how bad a period the US is going through. I think its overstated, although there are undoubtedly some serious problems that need to be addressed.

    The issue for America is that having lost its civilizational strengths, it’s running on the fumes of Empire. So, we’re really talking about just how much of those fumes there are left. The former didn’t simply get weakened. For the elites and approx half the population they seem to have been replaced by something alien and corrosive. “Freedom”, “Democracy”, “Rule of Law” and even “American Know-how” have visibly dissipated to invisibility for those looking honestly for them. The fumes it’s running on are the preeminence of the U$ dollar system and such fear as the USM is able to generate. Both are past their tipping point, and well into decline.

    … great nations go through bad periods, and then rise again.

    They do, but Empires generally don’t. It’s all about resource flow, and when the flow stops, or worse reverses, the nation at the core of empire rarely survives in anything like its original form. Greece, Italy, Mongolia or Iran are very different than simply diminished versions of their former selves at the core of Empires. The original versions disappeared.

    In any case, America wasn’t great for long enough to be called a historically great nation. Great nations build civilizations that endure through trials such as the loss of Empire. Russia and China have, and arguably remain modern versions of their original selves.

    In 4thC Rome, things didn’t look so bad either. There was lots of asset speculation for the rich, and bread ‘n circuses for everyone else, while the Empire’s ability to bring resources in from the periphery shrank a little every day. Without new resources being brought in, the Empire inevitably ate its tail. The people remained blithely certain that there would be even more bread ‘n circuses in the future. So Americans are today. They’ll stay quite certain until a modern-day Alaric hammers on the Imperial Gates and says “It’s over”. Rome never recovered its Empire, and the city itself went from a population of ~1M to <50,000 at its depths. It and the area that became Italy took centuries to recover a halfway decent standard of living.

    Like Rome, the US has hollowed itself out and became dependent on such tithes a shrinking Empire can deliver to keep the bread 'n circuses going. Rome, however, had no peers and so could continue on well beyond its sell-by date. America, through a breathtaking series of strategic blunders, has lost that advantage. There's more peers now than America can hope to deal with and they, not America control the clock. The resources the Empire needs to continue have been taken off the table. It needed Russia's natural resources, and China's human resources. It lost both, and what's worse forced them into partnership. As the recent Warsaw "conference" so vividly exposed, even its vassals know that the Empire has lost its mojo, if DC's brain-trusts don't.

    Can it recover and become a normal country again? Absolutely, though I give it less chance of coming through the process intact than either Russia or China did. Cultural homogeneity is what carries a civilization through hard times, and the US ain't got much of that. Perhaps it will undergo a similar split to Rome's, where the Eastern Empire went on to develop a very different society than the one it split off from. Rome split along more or less logistical and administrative lines, whereas the US' fissures are marbled across the continent. It'll take some serious statesmanship to hold it together.

    As for wishing…
    Perhaps some do wish the US Empire's collapse will come sooner rather than later, and even that some other empire will replace it. I simply see its collapse as both inevitable, and imminent (in historical terms, of course), but I don't see another global Empire rising to take its place, much less wish it.

    Maybe one will arise in the fullness of time, but not in mine, or in anyone's that's currently alive. The resource base just ain't there any more. A Eurasian Empire? Maybe. Global? Nah.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  174. Sam J. says:
    @Anon

    “…If it’s all about oil, why not invade Mexico…”

    Very good point and shows just how much everything around us is distorted and lied about.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  175. @Philip Owen

    ”Can the US make the changes necessary to play balance of power politics?”

    surely not as a khazar satrapy

  176. yurivku says:
    @yurivku

    I’m ready to recall my military speciality when time comes.

    ambiguously written. I meant – if we’ll need to defend our country we’ll forget all internal problems as we always did.

  177. yurivku says:
    @Sam J.

    “…If it’s all about oil, why not invade Mexico…”

    Just wait a little, it’s in the queue

  178. anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    The majority of non-yellow (and non-Muhammadan, of course) Australians will support it, though.

    Yes, you mean the whitey Pagan Polytheist Mangods/Self-worshippers… I understand.

  179. @Paul C.

    Agree, and here in Montana we are sprayed daily with chemtrails which are being used with HAARP to attempt to control the weather, and this chemtrail spraying has been going on for over 30 years.

    See geoengineeringwatch.org for details.

  180. Sparkon says:
    @james charles

    No rational person denies natural climate change, but most of the alarmists do, claiming that a beneficial trace gas controls Earth’s climate. What a laugh. You clowns are delusional Watermelons, 1st Class

    But who has been trying to erase the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age?

    The existence of the Medieval Warm Period completely wrecked the global warming scam, so professional climate fraudsters like Michael E Mann decided to get rid of it.

    https://realclimatescience.com/2017/06/ministry-of-truth-erasing-the-medieval-warm-period/

    Those guys like Mikey Mann are the rest of the Hockey Stick data manipulators are the real climate change deniers.

    • Replies: @james charles
  181. Cleburne says:
    @AaronB

    Great points. I do think tho that the Zionist infiltration in the US is far worse than was the case in the Soviet Union, largely because there are larger sums of money involved, Israel more or less controls the legislature and executive branches, the ostensible “conservative” party is a wholly owned subsidiary of Netanyahu Inc. so it’ll be more difficult to unfuck.

  182. The new left is no threat to Capitalism. They call themselves Socialists but they wouldn’t know what nationalization of the means of production even means. For them there is only oppressors and oppressed and the government which has the power to take from the former and give to the latter.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Rurik
  183. peterAUS says:
    @WorkingClass

    The new left is no threat to Capitalism. ….
    … For them there is only oppressors and oppressed and the government which has the power to take from the former and give to the latter.

    Well said, with a caveat that oppressed/oppressor are identity based.
    Add white only self-hate with some elements of schizophrenia and… that’s it.

  184. Rurik says:
    @WorkingClass

    The new left is no threat to Capitalism. … . For them there is only oppressors and oppressed and the government which has the power to take from the former and give to the latter.

    and those oppressors are not Goldman Sachs or Sheldon Adelson or their ilk.

    Rather the ‘oppressors’ are those people in Flint, MI who Bernie Sanders claims have never known poverty or police harassment:

    He did it!

    Bernie Sanders wrong to say, ‘When you’re white … you don’t know what it’s like to be poor’

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/07/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/

    They did it!

    http://johnedwinmason.typepad.com/.a/6a0112791cb10528a40133ec698759970b-600wi

  185. Cyrano says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    ‘The hell you’re talking about? How is it “free” stuff if it’s given back to the ones from whom it was originally taken from? Forget about that nonsense of “government of the people by the people for the people”. How about economy of the people, by the people, for the people. Bernie was probably all talk too – like the rest of them. The deep state would have suffocated him – ideologically and if needed literary. US elections were never designed to produce a savior, definitely not savior for the underclasses, perhaps savior(s) for the rich elites.

    • Agree: bluedog
  186. @Patricus

    “I find it hard to believe the masses in the US will choose Bernie’s socialism.”

    Let’s see, how does that saying go? “Life’s a bitch, and then you die” or something like that. Anyway, I’d honestly prefer actual “socialism” to the de facto communism we have now. But Bernie’s socialism is for Bernie.

    In any case, what matters more than that is the concept that with Bernie in the white house, we might not have the nuclear war that orange clown and his handlers seem to want very badly.

    “It doesn’t work and the evidence for failure is overwhelming just in the last 100 years.”

    Whether or not something “works” in practice (whatever that exactly means) – as we’ve come to see – depends much more on the moral competence and the intelligence of the people involved than it does on some abstract definition or set of rules, etc.

    • Agree: Cyrano
  187. Cyrano says:
    @Wally

    You are absolutely right, man. Look how socialism “failed” under the US bombing and subversion in: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Chile, and now it’s attempting to “fail” in Venezuela. Would capitalism have been as “successful form of governance” in your country if it was bombed to hell? Not to worry, when it’s time for the capitalism to go – it will go quietly into the night and nobody will be able to save it. The way the things are looking now – it will die by its own hand, no evil communism to help put it out of its misery.

  188. Antipropo says:
    @peterAUS

    Claiming that troops stationed in a country eg Australia, is semantics and childish reasoning. In any case wether we call them stationed or just visiting or some other nonsense having US forces in your country makes that country a legitimate target in a global war.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  189. @Moi

    Americanism is a terminal disease.

    Life is a terminal disease.

    Most people try to save themselves by artificially limiting the contents of consciousness.

  190. @Lars Porsena

    Damman No. 7

    March 3rd, 1938

    So much for your facts.

    • Replies: @Lars Porsena
  191. peterAUS says:
    @Antipropo

    ….having US forces in your country makes that country a legitimate target in a global war.

    Global war …..yeah………

    You sure that Switzerland, in that case, will fare much better than Australia?
    Or Sri Lanka? How about Madagascar ?

    I know that resident Chinese/Russian fanboys have hard time getting a very simple fact: core Australia will always choose USA before those two. Always.

    That’s all what matters.

    More Beijing flexes its muscles….more the core Australia will want Americans around.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  192. @Achmed E. Newman

    Whoops! Sorry all. Here’s how it should look:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  193. anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    “Tough physical adventurers” my ass… Israel’s existence is parasitic in nature. European Jews have always thrived at the expense of a host. Separate Israel/Jews from the host (like Nazi Germany nearly did), and they would be wiped clean from the earth within a decade.

  194. @Godfree Roberts

    Lots better!

    No errors, at least. ;-}

  195. SteveK9 says:

    The best thing that could happen to America, would be to lose the Empire. It would then become, not ‘just another country’, but a country that could easily provide its citizens with a good life.

    • Agree: tamo
  196. nsa says:
    @Wally

    “Bookies Have Trumpstein As A 2020 Favorite”
    Get out your rainbow MAGA hat there, Wally, as Trumpstein’s GloboHomo initiative should peel off a slice of the queer vote……..and releasing all those federal felons should garner some of the ex-con drug peddlar vote. Will you be “manning” the Rainbow Trumpstein Float at the next gay pride parade, along with your heroes, the Koshners…….or maybe a greeter position at the Holocaust museum your candyass hero, Trumpstein, is so fond of? No name calling……level playing field.

  197. @Johnny Rico

    OK.

    I didn’t think the Saudi’s discovered oil until a bit later but apparently the year before WWII started. And maybe they suspected it a bit earlier. A lot of places discovered oil right around that period.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  198. dfordoom says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    I know that resident Chinese/Russian fanboys have hard time getting a very simple fact: core Australia will always choose USA before those two. Always.

    If the media tells them to support China instead of the U.S. they’ll support China. Public opinion is what the people in control of the Megaphone decide it’s going to be. The public has no actual opinion.

    At this point in time the people controlling the Megaphone in Australia want us to be Washington’s whore, but since those people have no principles it would be unwise to assume that the situation will never change. In economic terms it makes more sense for us to be Beijing’s whore.

    All Australians really care about is that we should be somebody’s whore.

  199. @Lars Porsena

    I think you would enjoy this book.

  200. Agent76 says:

    This is all anyone needs to read and view to understand Americas Empire goals.

    “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” – A Summary Blueprint of the PNAC Plan for U.S. Global Hegemony

    Some people have compared it to Hitler’s publication of Mein Kampf, which was ignored until after the war was over.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3249.htm

    The New American Century. Part 1/10 This film goes in detail through the untold history of The Project for the New American Century with tons of archival footage and connects it right into the present.

  201. Whitewolf says:

    America will be lucky to become just another country. At the moment it isn’t even a serious country. Decades of diversity as the state religion and mass third world immigration have all but destroyed America already.

    How is America going to compete with China in technology when it deliberately dumbs down it’s own population and when it discriminates against Whites who historically have been the most innovative? How are American companies supposed to compete when they hire based on diversity theological factors rather than merit?

    • Replies: @a German
  202. apollonian says: • Website
    @Cyrano

    Socialism: Nothing But Excuse For GENOCIDE, Folks–Look At Kind Of Ignorant Thugs It Attracts

    Listen to the ignorant, psychopathic thug babbling:

    “Socialism means equalizing and socializing – of rich and poor – at the expense of the rich who got that way at the expense of the poor, so you can say – it’s little bit of a payback time.”

    Folks: “socialism” is just GENOCIDAL dictatorship w. veneer of that kind of “Robin Hood” moralism assuring the suckers, golly, he’ll rob the rich for the poor’s benefit–suuuuuuuure. And a psychotic thug punk like “Cyrano” will just go along his merry way after the robbery and handing-over to the poor suckers, eh?–not taking a cut for himself?–ho ho ho ho. No suckers, that thug is gonna stick around and guess what?–he’s just gonna take the formerly “rich” folks’ place, that’s all–in order to maintain the peace, right?–ho ho ho ho ho.

    Then notice, the ignorant punk thug tells us all about “Americans” being “brainwashed” and the “wrong kind of socialism”–when the moronic, ignorant fool doesn’t know anything about ANY kind of socialism in the first place, ho ho ho ho ho.

    The ignorant punk-thug then finishes w. some homey-style poetry about “faking it,” ho ho ho ho–when the psychotic moron is faking it all fm the very beginning about the “socialist” scam in the first place. Socialism?–it’s just a moralistic-style fraud cloaking for GENOCIDE and dictatorship. And WHO would be stupid enough to accept such dictatorship fm such an ignorant thug-punk like “Cyrano”?–absolutely NO ONE at all–too bad “Cyrano” doesn’t have the brains to grasp he impresses NO ONE.

  203. Paul C. says:
    @james charles

    If you have to dismiss all of these scientific organizations to reach your opinion, then you are by definition denying the science. If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition.

    I’m suggesting the science is paid propaganda, whether the scientists know it or not. What they study is dictated by funding and grants. There is indeed a worldwide conspiracy, as all the governments are controlled by the banking cabal. The President’s and Prime Ministers are largely puppets. Money is power. The criminal cabal controls all institutions of society: media, finance, government, justice/law, medical, education, science.

    Are you familiar with the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger Group and RIIA? Do you trust them? Trusting the UN is like trusting the EU. All these organizations are pushing One World Government (New World Order). The threat of climate change endangering humanity is the ruse by which they can force their dictates on the people and continue to take away our rights.

    Are you aware of geo-engineering, solar radiation management (SRM) and stratospheric aerosol injections (SAI), AKA chemtrails? This happens above everyone’s head daily and many still deny it. Why is the Deep State doing it and do they have the people’s consent? They don’t have our consent so why do you trust these alphabet agencies? 17 US intel agencies said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction (WMD). Were they all wrong or were we lied to? I suspect the latter. The policy is decided first and they work backwards to justify the policy. How many tens or hundreds of thousands of innocents were killed? Have we even apologized?

    There’s overwhelming peer reviewed science that a vegan diet can reduce the risk of diabetes, heart disease and cancer, yet the American Cancer Society, American Heart Association and American Diabetes Association do not communicate this on their website. If they truly were concerned with the truth and the benefit of humanity they would, but they receive a lot of funding from Big Pharma (and food industry) to tout the drugs that can best manage the various diseases. These organizations do billions of dollars in research but yet won’t share this simple truth. Do I trust them? No.

    NASA says we’ve been to the moon 5 or 6 times but yet the telemetry data of the greatest technological achievement in world history was not only lost for one mission but ALL missions, therefore, they conveniently can’t provide proof. Do you still trust them? Why is there no film footage of NASA traveling to the International Space Station (ISS)? All they’d have to do is turn on an iPhone video and hold it up to the window and press record for the entirety of the trip. You’ll never find such a video because the ISS only exists in a film studio and in our minds. According to NASA the ISS is traveling at 17,000 miles per hour in outer space, but somehow we never have a problem landing on it :).

    I could go on and on. NOAA and the NWS force their employees to sign nondisclosure agreements (gag orders). Why? Does this instill trust in what they tell us?

    The CDC recommends on “day one” each baby receive the Hepatitus B vaccine which protects populations that are having unprotected sex or using IV drugs. Why would a newborn need this?

    The American Dental Association (ADA) recommends adding fluoride to the water supply. Fluoride is more poisonous than lead and slightly less poisonous than arsenic. It’s a waste by-product of aluminum production. Only one European country does this. When you research the history of fluoride in the US water supply, you’ll learn ALCOA concocted “research” that fluoride prevents cavities, to avoid the cost of having to dispose this hazardous material. Even if you believe the lie, it still makes no sense. When you drink a glass of water, it touches some of your teeth for perhaps 1-2 seconds, but now our bodies have to deal with a neuro toxin in our bloodstream. It doesn’t stop there as we shower in it and we water our food supply (organic or otherwise) with it. Do I trust the ADA’s science? No.

    I hope you’ll reconsider trusting the universities and alphabet agencies who’ll get their funding removed or cut if they don’t toe the line.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @james charles
  204. @Sparkon

    “Greenhouse gasses, principally CO2, have controlled most ancient climate changes. This time around humans are the cause, mainly by our CO2 emissions.”
    https://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm

    “While the Medieval Warm Period saw unusually warm temperatures in some regions, globally the planet was cooler than current conditions.”
    https://www.skepticalscience.com/medieval-warm-period.htm

    “So if you deny all the above scientific organizations there are a lot of un-scientific web sites out there that pretend to be science. Many of these are run by lobbyists (e.g.., Climate Depot, run by a libertarian political lobbyist, CFACT), or supported by lobbyists (e.g., JoannaNova, WUWT, both of whom have received funding and otherwise substantial support by lobbying organizations like the Heartland Institute), or are actually paid by lobbyists to write Op-Eds and other blog posts that intentionally misrepresent the science.”

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  205. @Wally

    The most ‘failed kind of governance’ is ‘capitalism’?

    “We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe, warns UN “

  206. @Isabella

    The recent bill that re-opened the Federal Government appears to have ended the Federal Government’s legitimacy. It was about as clear a statement as one can get that both major parties, R Rs & Ds both, are committed to genociding their historic population.

    Propaganda [1] I’ve seen since then on very public venues since then is quite clear on that, and there are signs of a legal counterattack mounted by Trump supporters within the Rs. The felony charges against Smolent are also unusual: clearly, the people who would have ordinarily suppressed them have lost influence. This is important because the bill that Trump signed was apparently thought by those who voted for it, as a final crushing blow, a knock on the door by Death, a sign that the will of the American voter would be completely disregarded, and, in fact, a declaration of unlimited power by the permanent government establishment.

    Didn’t work. It it had, anti-establishment propaganda would have shut down. All it meant in practice is that the fight is on for real. Next step will be clearing the field of neutrals [2].

    This is going to strongly interfere with any US attempt to maintain its present position. Trump appears to be trying to shut things down in an orderly fashion rather than simply let them rust through. That will slow down or maybe stop. One hates to think of what could happen if the Rs & Ds try invading the world again. WW II was 70 years or so ago, guys.

    Of course, this means nobody will be minding the sea lanes, which will be up for grabs. Ah, well . . . I’m not describing the world I want, just doing the usual analyst bit.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] From _Drudge Report_, 2018/02/23,
    https://amgreatness.com/2019/02/21/the-greatest-constitutional-crisis-since-the-civil-war/

    2] Brinton.
    _Anatomy of Revolution_.
    1965.

  207. a German says:

    “We” know very well that we are occupied. Simply if we want to sell something to russia (which is “officially” sanctioned but … ). Or if want to make a new pipeline for russian oil or gas (which is always under pressure not to do, better buy overpriced low quality from the United Shithole of America). Or if we want to see a good football world cup hold in russia, which will be wrecked by the media.

    Or if we want to live in peace with our neighbors, which will be made impossible by your “peace loving UShithole of A).

    “You” won the war, but lost the peacetime. Now you will be doomed, get over it.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  208. a German says:
    @Whitewolf

    Surely you can compete in technology, US-America is the most inventive state ever.

    But you can’t compete in production. This is where the money comes from, inventions are only costs. China offered to produce for “free” (near self costs) , when you share inventions and know how. That’s all they need. Labor, Structure, bright people and so? They have more than enough of it. So they get for free (as said near self cost) what they need and earn money, machines, structure, know how a.s.o. too. Surely they made huge debt with that, but in a very local currency- They get infrastructure in return which will pay the debt over time, simply be existence.

    Main difference to other countries plundered by the west is the government, that couldn’t be bribed. So they get a fair value for their offers.

    Chinese are the most nationalist people i ever met, now they expand. Project Silk road means little more than “goods” goes to the west and the wealth flows into china.

    What the west did is described in the bible. “Dance around” the golden calf (Ex 32). You can read there what happens next.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  209. Sparkon says:
    @james charles

    Au contraire! There is plenty of evidence showing that the Medieval Warm Period was global.

    In the April 2003 issue of Energy and Environment, Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and co-authors wrote a review of over 250 research papers that concluded that the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age were true climatic anomalies with world-wide imprints – contradicting Mann’s hockey stick and undermining the basis of Kyoto. Soon et al were then attacked in EOS, the journal of the American Geophysical Union.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/02/12/more-evidence-that-the-medieval-warming-period-was-global-not-regional/
    Climate reconstructions of the ‘Medieval Warm Period’ 1000-1200 AD.
    Legend: MWP was warm (red), cold (blue), dry (yellow), wet

    Crushed again. The hockey stick is now a pile of splinters.

    • Replies: @james charles
  210. alan2102 says:
    @JNDillard

    Great comment, JNDillard. Much-appreciated counterpoints to some of ridiculous anti-socialist right-wingery so often spouted in these parts. Socialism is obviously the future, and indeed the only future, if we are to have a future at all. Socialism or barbarism/fascism: take your choice. There is no other alternative.
    Say, are you the JNDillard of integralworld.net fame? Great stuff there, too!
    Warm Regards,
    Alan2102

  211. Ram says:

    ” Chinese regard whites as superior ”

    But for how long ?

  212. @a German

    “Surely you can compete in technology, US-America is the most inventive state ever.”

    How can “America” compete in technology when the primary objective of the public education system is not to educate children but to dumb-down and indoctrinate them?

    And even if that was not the primary objective, being that “America” doesn’t manufacture much of anything anymore, who wants to go to college to become an engineer or physicist just to work at Lockheed-Martin or Raytheon developing weapons to help the madmen running the country to beat the world into submission?

    “America” is failing, because the madmen running things are evil, and evil always destroys itself.

    • Replies: @a German
  213. AaronB says:
    @Erebus

    China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Thailand. The people in Japan were by far my favorite.

    I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. My personal sense is that there is tremendous vitality left in America, and that Asian dynamism is vastly overstated.

    What perturbed me also is that the moral level and social amenity seemed in many ways lower than America (not everywhere). Which surprised me, because America is very bad on this point right now. But it seems the whole world is.

    There’s lots of hype and marketing bullshit going on about Asia. For instance, Thailand is known as the land of smiles. I have never seen a more unhappy people. Its just marketing and hype.

    It’s sounds like a cliche, but interacting with Asian culture again made me understand why so little creativity comes out of Asia. Korean women get tons of plastic surgery, in order to all look the same. And no one seems to think that there is something wrong with fake beauty. Stereotyped behavior is very common there.

    In Bangkok in front of McDonald’s there is a statue of Ronald McDonald waiing. Hordes of Korean and Chinese tourists take their picture there. They will all have the exact same picture.

    This kind of culture has its strengths. Particularly in organization and discipline. And I am not comfortable with the American extreme of individualism either.

    But I was reminded that despite globalization, the West is different in important ways.

    I actually like Asia and Asians very much, and would happily live in the region. I just don’t think Asia has the solutions for our modern global crisis, nor do I think it’s the next big thing.

    Arthur Koestler went to Asia in search of answers for the crisis of his time, the early 20th century, because back then people were hyping Asia as having the answers also (this seems to be perennial), except that back then the answers were supposed to be spiritual.

    He came to the same conclusion I did. Asia is a decent place, but it does not have the answers.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Erebus
  214. apollonian says: • Website
    @james charles

    “James” Part Of The Conspiracy, Just Not Bright Enough To Know It

    “If you have to dismiss all of these scientific organizations to reach your opinion, then you are by definition denying the science. If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition.”

    WRONG, sucker.

    James, buddy: thou are just a moronic liar, eh? Thou doesn’t even understand what science is. Thou says, “…dismiss all of these scientific organizations”?–HOW do thou know they’re “scientific”?–because someone told thou, thou dumbass?–because they have “degrees” given by idiot factories who produce trained, babbling morons?–ho ho ho ho ho. James thou are just an idiot.

    [MORE]

    Thou says and recites, “…all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists…,” but MOST of them are just fools and goons sucking up public funds because they won’t work an honest job which actually produces anything. And the “leaders” of these goons and fools are outright criminals and known for taking and following orders–that’s all it takes for the present “climate-change” fraud, sucker.

    “[H]undred thousand published research papers”?–and WHAT do thou actually KNOW about them?–NOTHING, because thou are just another brainless, lying moron thyself, as we see. So it takes a hundred thousand–or even just a hundred “published research papers” to “prove”–what? For if there’s a problem, why not just say what it is in a sentence or two?–thou CAN’T because thou are a lying, babbling fraud, that’s all, even if thou thyself “beeeleeeeeeeeevs” it all, fooling thyself, no less than the dumbest “religious” moron.

    “[P]art of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people”?–yes, thou poor, brainless fool, it’s called CENTRAL-BANKING, otherwise known as legalized counterfeiting, putting-out practically INFINITE fiat-currency, sucker–it’s what they do and have done since the earliest Babylonians–see the “Babylonian Woe,” by David Astle. See Mises.org; use their site search-engine.

    Newsflash, moron: HUMANS ARE SINNERS, and they seek and work to institutionalize their lies and lying, making entire RELIGIONS out of their lies, pretending they’re “chosen” of God, above other people, etc., just for one simple example. Ever hrd of the holohoax?–ho hoh o ho ho. “Climate-change” is just another one of these elaborated lies, sucker–so impressed thou are w. complexity and crap thou don’t understand, eh?–ho ho o ho ho ho ho.

    James: thou are just an idiot, buddy–and thou just want others to GO-ALONG w. fool like thyself to make thyself feel better, eh?–to feel less like a fool, and to think, “well, everyone else is a fool no less than me,” hoh o ho ho ho.

    Doesn’t it occur to a fool like thyself, “climate-change” is just ANOTHER elaborate fraud, like the other elaborate frauds, the elaboration and seeming complexity of which impresses shallow-minded idiots like thyself? And then scum like thyself wants to pretend along w. other morons that thou are superior by bleating like sheep that others, who are more honest than a self-deluded moron like thyself, are–what?–“deniers”?

    So thou see, Jamesy, buddy: thou are just an ignorant fool, in the first place (a), and (b) NOW thou wants to intimidate others like the punk bully thou really are, calling them names (“denier”), pretending a hundred moronic lying fools like thyself knows better than those fewer, wiser folk who don’t want to go along w. scum, suckers, weaklings, and inferiors like thyself. That’s what’s going on, in all truth. Idiots and morons like thyself are just a PART of the overall conspiracy–thou just don’t know it and won’t admit it–now do thou get it?

  215. JNDillard says:
    @alan2102

    Rats. My noteriety precedes me. My websites are dreamyoga.com and integraldeeplistening.com. I get really tired of people slamming socialism. From my perspective the finest president the US has ever had, by a long shot, was FDR. He forced the redistibution of wealth into public goods and welfare and made the pigs at the trough pay for it.

    • Disagree: apollonian
  216. buckwheat says:

    Reading Fred’s columns is getting a bit tedious. Same old bullshit…….Stay with what you know Freddie and it ain’t world politics.

  217. apollonian says: • Website
    @JNDillard

    Thug Admits He Admires “Force”

    “He forced the redistibution of wealth….”

    Yes, that’s typical of punks and scum like thou: thou are sooooo fascinated w. other punks, thugs, and scum who go about “forcing” things, eh? And we now know what’s worth of thy stupid web-sites, run by punk filth like thyself.

    Note there’s economics and then there’s such thing as “socialism” which is just “moralistic” excuse for dictatorship and GENOCIDE, sucker, as featured in Agenda-21 and -2030 addendum. Economics is actual science (which some dispute) by which human production is understood, humanity being most important, humanity being motivated by self-interest, guided then by reason. Thou can’t figure-out thy motivation is no different–self-interest–thou are just a murderer at heart.

    So why is thy self-interest for purpose of mass-murder, dictatorship, and GENOCIDE?–obviously, thou are the typical “humanitarian,” like Elsworth Toohey of Ayn Rand’s “Fountainhead,” eh?–thou just envisions a diff. “humanity”–more like robots, doing what thou say, what thou wants. But humanity is ONLY self-interested (“sinful,” according to Christian philosophy)–anything else perishes–cannot survive.

    It doesn’t matter to thy sort that “socialism” is anti-economics, is mere crass dictatorship “forced” upon people, as thou admits, and it NEVER ever works except for destruction and ruin–and this is what thou wants–GENOCIDE. Such are the motivations of “humanitarians” like thou, not only not knowing, but not even caring how economics and actual human nature (self-interested, necessarily, following human will) really works.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @JNDillard
  218. Sergio says:

    America is the continent NOT the country, Stupid !!!

    Be good Gringo, don’t think !!!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  219. Yee says:

    AaronB,

    “Asia is a decent place, but it does not have the answers.”

    No, Asia doesn’t have the answers for the whole world. The West and Islam do, both have the universalism for the whole world.

    Although the West change their universalism from “Christianity” to “Democracy”, their mindset is still monotheism – from “if you’re not Christian you’re evil, it’s good to burn you” to “if you’re not Democracy you’re evil, it’s good to bomb you”.

    If you want “answer” for the whole world, only 2 groups of people provide it…

    • Agree: tamo
  220. @Sergio

    There is no continent called “America”, dumbass. There is a North America and a South America, with the Central American portion being considered by most to be part of North America. In the US, we call our country America, and there’s fuck-all some idiot Russian commenter can do about it. (OK, yes, we did import “fuck-all” from Australia, another continent entirely.)

  221. @Yee

    If you want “answer” for the whole world, only 2 groups of people provide it…

    Which one’s right?

  222. @alan2102

    Socialism is obviously the future, and indeed the only future, if we are to have a future at all. Socialism or barbarism/fascism: take your choice. There is no other alternative.

    Nope, no alternative… it’s not like there was some enterprising young country whose founding fathers wrote up a Constitution like nothing seen before or since, creating freedom never seen before for 150 years… nope. That’s too bad, in fact, or maybe there’d be some history we could learn from it.

    We’ve also never seen any kind of Socialism/Communism in practice to see how well it works, so it’s probably GREAT! I mean, I never heard of any big countries that span Europe and Asia that might have had some 10’s of millions of human beings purged and sent to work and die in the cold.

    It’s not like there are big and smaller countries in Asia that ever experienced wonderful Socialism – if it had failed due to its total disregard for human nature and things most of learned in Kindergarten and, say, 40 million people were starved to death due to the stupidity of one top Socialist, or 1/3 of the entire population had been executed, I’m sure we’d have heard about it by now. I remember something about breaking 1 1/2 million skulls , I mean, eggs to make an omelet. Eggs are good for you again, so bon appetit, boys.

    Absolutely … fuckin’ A… there’s no alternative – Forward Soviet!

    • Replies: @alan2102
  223. @JNDillard

    FDR was the John the Baptist to Commie-Jesus Lyndon B. Johnson in the quest to convert America from a nation of free independent people into a welfare state. The result is the state we are in today, with the dependence on Big Gov by near a majority of Americans, and crony-Capitalism (economic fascism) in which one has to be a Big Business and have the right people involved in steering government towards one’s needs and to crush all competition.

    Many Commies, some even right here on unz.com, call the current system “Capitalism”, so that they can rail against it and push for Socialism/Communism again, hoping that people forget. Some of us Won’t Get Fooled Again

  224. Yee says:

    Achmed E. Newman,

    “Which one’s right?”

    Of course what you lectured me in your past comments is right – “FREEDOM—”

    But this time freedom for different nations to go their own way. Monotheism is poison.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  225. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:

    “It’s the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex” -Frank Zappa

  226. DB Cooper says:
    @Yee

    There is actually a corollary to this kind of mindset applied to another country. And it is India. Only that in this case it operates in the opposite way. This is the reason no matter what India did, the West always sees it as benign because India is a democracy, and the world’s largest to boot! So all the massive human rights abuse in Kashmir (complete with thousands of mass graves) , the northeast and elsewhere, all the invasions, land grabbing, annexation and hegemonic designs on its neighbors…etc. and abject poverty, in your face social injustices and other failures doesn’t matter to the West. So long as you are a democracy (whatever that means), it is immediately seen as righteous and holy.

    • Agree: tamo
  227. Erebus says:
    @AaronB

    Your thoughtful reply is understood and appreciated.

    Almost everything you said is well within the usual range of different perceptions and preferences Westerners would have going to an alien culture, and I would have agreed with even more of it had you asked me 3 decades ago.

    My perceptions, of both the East and the West have changed quite a bit over those decades. During that time, the world’s wealth and wealth-building activity shifted back to the East from whence it had shifted West 5 or 6 centuries before. So, it’s a historically important time that will colour the next few centuries and we should be delighted to have, willy-nilly, found ourselves with a bird’s eye view of the transition.

    I just don’t think Asia has the solutions for our modern global crisis, nor do I think it’s the next big thing.

    Well, I don’t know what you mean by “next big thing”, but it’s surely the next-est, biggest thing in the sense that the tide that started heading east in the last few decades isn’t going to reverse any time soon.

    As for “solutions”, I don’t believe that the East, or the West, or anywhere else can be the source of externally imposed, one-size-fits-all solutions. They don’t work now and never have. Yee’s point @228 is well made: “Solutions” are for ideologues who look at the world through 10 feet of 1 inch pipe. They work until the bombs stop falling, or the threat of thereof ceases. If there’s a “solution” the East is offering at the moment, it’s multipolarity.

    The offer that the East is putting on the table, if the world can keep to it, is that nations should do their own thing within the limits set by international law/agreement. Within a nation’s borders, communism, tyranny, democracy, theocracy, or some -ism/-acy not yet invented, are a matter for the people involved to sort out. How they wish, or can manage to be governed is to be their affair. If they don’t change it, no-one else will. Once outside the border, whatever -ism/-acy is operative internally has to recognize that it is nothing externally, and to behave according to the rules, or be ostracized.

    A modern, Westphalian “anti-solution”, if you will, but it’s catching on at accelerating rate. With that comes a whole repertory of unknowns, of course, and the proof of that pudding will come when it’s time for the eating. Sure to succeed? Nope. Better (globally speaking), than what we’ve got now? I’d say so, and so one hopes the kinks can be worked out.

    The world’s institutions will simply be different at their core, and by extension at the peripheries. The rise of the West culminated in a short-lived unipolar moment during which its worst characteristics came out and clobbered it. It was as blind to the fact that it had already lost both its discipline and its sight of what made it great in the first place as it was to the fact that others had no great wish to become like them. The same sorts of reasons (mutatis mutandis) that caused the shift westwards 500 yrs ago.

    In civilizations, as in the humans that make them, what’s bred in the bone will out in the flesh, and some time in the future the tide that is now waxing East will go slack and wane, heading for parts currently unknown. It’s called History.

  228. JNDillard says:

    I have been fed (and accepted) the MSM propaganda brain washing of “Capitalism = democracy and communism and socialism as Satin’s spawn since elementary school. That ruse, essentially promoted to gain our sheep-like acquiescence in foreign wars that have killed some 20 million since WWII, has grown desperate, as we see in the pathetic schrieking of the McCarthyist revivalists, with Rachael Maddow as exhibit “A.” The possibilities of socialism can be judged more accurately by the enormous and multiple benefits FDR’s New Deal brought to the country. The social security check that I receive every month makes a huge difference, and the porcine money-grubbers at the banks and Wall St. certainly would never back such benefits. Capitalism is about profit, not about welfare, where communism and socialism are primarily concerned with welfare. Look at Putin’s recent address to his government and look at the realism and genuine value of his priorities; look at Xi’s most recent five year plan and ask yourself, “Does the US offer anything that in any way compares?” I am not a Marxist, but the ideas of economist Richard Wolf make sense to me. I am not a socialist, but the ideas of economist Michael Hudson make sense to me. If you are not familiar with these two, I recommend you take a look before you climb on what Noam Chompsky has called “the manufacturing of consent” train, because it is going over a cliff.

  229. JNDillard says:
    @apollonian

    Were you forced to go to school? Does law force lawbreakers to pay fines or go to jail? Have you never benefitted from being forced to pay the taxes that created the internet on which you type, the roads on which you drive, the police that keep you safe? Those who think all force is bad, or that any surrendering of personal autonomy is evil, are creating a logical fallacy called a performative contradiction because it holds that I demand unlimited freedom for my views, wants, needs, and preferences which necessitates the abrogation of those freedoms for others. If that is not a definition of selfishness, what is?

    • Replies: @alan2102
  230. @Sparkon

    “So if you deny all the above scientific organizations there are a lot of un-scientific web sites out there that pretend to be science. Many of these are run by lobbyists (e.g.., Climate Depot, run by a libertarian political lobbyist, CFACT), or supported by lobbyists (e.g., JoannaNova, WUWT, both of whom have received funding and otherwise substantial support by lobbying organizations like the Heartland Institute), or are actually paid by lobbyists to write Op-Eds and other blog posts that intentionally misrepresent the science.”

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  231. @Yee

    I’m glad you learned something, Mr. Yee. Yes, of course these different nations should be able to run things in different ways, and believe in different gods. I just asked you which one is right, Christianity or Islam, since you stated they both have answer [sic] for the world.

    • Replies: @Erebus
    , @DB Cooper
  232. Sparkon says:
    @james charles

    Quoting your own argument by assertion? Still attacking source with ad hominem logical fallacies? You’ve got nothing.

    In the April 2003 issue of Energy and Environment, Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and co-authors wrote a review of over 250 research papers that concluded that the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age were true climatic anomalies with world-wide imprints – contradicting Mann’s hockey stick and undermining the basis of Kyoto.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/02/12/more-evidence-that-the-medieval-warming-period-was-global-not-regional/

    Why don’t you head over to Anthony Watts’ award-winning blog WUWT and repeat your accusations against Mr. Watts over there? I’m sure you’ll get a warm reception.

    ps. Forests being found beneath melting glaciers provide incontrovertible evidence that it has been much warmer in Earth’s past:

    An ancient 1000-year-old forest has been uncovered beneath Alaska’s 37 square mile Mendenhall Glacier. The forest has been poking through the receding ice near Juneau for nearly fifty years, but local scientists from the University of Alaska Southeast have observed an increasing number of visible stumps lately – including some trees that are still in an upright position.

    https://inhabitat.com/1000-year-old-alaskan-forest-uncovered-as-glaciers-continue-to-melt/

    In Switzerland too, signs of an ancient forest have been discovered beneath melting glaciers:

    Dr. Christian Schlüchter’s discovery of 4,000-year-old chunks of wood at the leading edge of a Swiss glacier was clearly not cheered by many members of the global warming doom-and-gloom science orthodoxy.

    This finding indicated that the Alps were pretty nearly glacier-free at that time, disproving accepted theories that they only began retreating after the end of the little ice age in the mid-19th century. As he concluded, the region had once been much warmer than today, with “a wild landscape and wide flowing river.”

    Dr. Schlüchter’s report might have been more conveniently dismissed by the entrenched global warming establishment were it not for his distinguished reputation as a giant in the field of geology and paleoclimatology who has authored/coauthored more than 250 papers and is a professor emeritus at the University of Bern in Switzerland.

    Receding Swiss Glaciers Reveal 4000 Year Old Forests – Warmists Try To Suppress Findings

    • Replies: @Erebus
    , @james charles
  233. Erebus says:
    @Sparkon

    Sparkon, as almost all of us know, politicized science ain’t science at all. The planet has been heating and cooling throughout its existence, and it shouldn’t surprise us that it’s doing one or the other now.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  234. Erebus says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Can’t both be wrong? That, I believe is Yee’s point.

  235. Paul C. says:
    @james charles

    Science denier.

    I’ll readily admit I’m a “government science denier” because governments lie all the time. All your scientific sources are government sponsored. Parroting what they tell you is not critical thinking. If you really wanted to uncover if we’re experiencing climate change that threatens humanity in the next 10 years then seek independent analysis and science.

    Examples of gov’t lies:

    We were never attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin, that lie was used to escalate the Vietnam conflict. Defense Secretary McNamara admits this.

    NASA cannot provide any telemetry data from any moon mission, claims we lost the technology to go back to the moon also claim we’re working on the technology to safely cross the Van Allen belts, an admission that we’ve never done this. NASA is a masonic organization, a secret society. They hide knowledge, deceive and worship Lucifer. Government is mind control. Stop believing them and seek other sources for information.

  236. a German says:
    @Harold Smith

    How can “America” compete in technology when the primary objective of the public education system is not to educate children but to dumb-down and indoctrinate them?

    Maybe the wrong focus. From my limited point of view nothing has changed.

    The “US” gains the bright, entertain the “normal” and forget the rest, like they ever did. But today the bright comes from everywhere ( from the local point of view educated for free). Attracted by companies not a country whatever name it is. There is no difference to ignore McDo in Mumbay or Bay Area. If you walk the Nevsky you can’t compare it from a shopping mall in Singapore (except the temperature) or any other place with above average income.

    Google, Intel , PWC are the names, Not US, Canada or AUS. If you are bright, what can you gain from a University? Information is everywhere, the names are associated with gender trouble and safe space problems and American football is a regional sport nobody else plays.

    “America” is failing, because the madmen running things are evil, and evil always destroys itself.

    Can’t see this. If you look at the outcome the US leads in a lot of branches. KI, Electronic, Software wherever you look there is only one leader. China makes up, but currently as a meetoo producer. This is easier as ever because of management, producing and quality control standards everybody can buy.

    A common speech over here is “how did they get it to the moon with that?”. But only in branches germany is good in.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  237. DB Cooper says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This question is best deferred to subject matter expert Richard Dawkins.

  238. @Sparkon

    “So if you deny all the above scientific organizations there are a lot of un-scientific web sites out there that pretend to be science. Many of these are run by lobbyists (e.g.., Climate Depot, run by a libertarian political lobbyist, CFACT), or supported by lobbyists (e.g., JoannaNova, WUWT, both of whom have received funding and otherwise substantial support by lobbying organizations like the Heartland Institute), or are actually paid by lobbyists to write Op-Eds and other blog posts that intentionally misrepresent the science.”

    There is a difference between appealing to authority and deferring to a consensus of experts.
    Just a reminder: a consensus is not part of doing science, it’s a consequence of doing it right.

    • LOL: apollonian
    • Replies: @james charles
  239. @james charles

    “Baliunas has co-published numerous scientific papers with fellow climate change skeptic Willie Soon including a controversial paper in 2003 that suggested the climate hasn’t changed in the last 2000 years. Several members of the Climate Research journal resigned in protest to the flawed peer-review process allowing Baliunas’s paper to be published.”

  240. @a German

    How can “America” compete in technology when the primary objective of the public education system is not to educate children but to dumb-down and indoctrinate them?

    “Maybe the wrong focus. From my limited point of view nothing has changed.”

    Lots has changed (deteriorated).

    “The ‘US’ gains the bright, entertain the “normal” and forget the rest, like they ever did.”

    So how did the US get so far behind Russia in key areas of military technology, for example?

    “America” is failing, because the madmen running things are evil, and evil always destroys itself.

    “Can’t see this. If you look at the outcome the US leads in a lot of branches. KI, Electronic, Software wherever you look there is only one leader.”

    Failure is an inherent quality of evil; that’s why empires never last. Anyway, every indicator of societal health in the U.S. is moving in the wrong direction (e.g. life-expectancy, suicide rate). If the U.S. still “leads” (in anything “good”) it won’t be for long, because this whole society is in a state of collapse.

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  241. alan2102 says:
    @JNDillard

    Joseph, you ought not bother with the obviously-demented like Apollonian, ranting and raving incoherent right-populist idiocies (“….SOCIALIST GENOCIDE… AGENDA 21…” blah blah etc.).

    • Replies: @apollonian
  242. alan2102 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    40 million people starved to death because of one top socialist?! You don’t say! And founding fathers who “created freedom never seen before for 150 years” [sic]!

    My oh my. You haven’t even begun to study history, have you?

    A good K-12 edumacation would not hurt, either.

  243. alan2102 says:

    40 million people starved to death because of one top socialist?! You don’t say!

    And founding fathers “created freedom never seen before for 150 years” [sic]!

    My oh my. Sounds like your study of history has not gone past a bunch of right-wing websites (i.e. virtually all websites, including most “left” ones, with a few rare exceptions), and books by CIA operatives, fascist sympathizers, American exceptionalists, maniacal neocons, and various other chauvinists and imperialists. Well, that’s par for the course in the West: total immersion in right-wing lies and bullshit. I will give Ron Unz major credit/props for featuring Godfree Roberts, Ramin Mazaheri, and a few others, telling truths that are almost never seen anywhere in the West. You would do well to study them. A good K-12 edumacation would not hurt, either.

    clue: one of the very few, very rare authentic left sites:
    https://gowans.wordpress.com

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  244. Joe Wong says:
    @Moi

    The essential American soul is hard, isolate, greedy, deception, false pathos, insincere heroism and killer, not stoic. Americans are spoiled whining school yard bullies.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  245. apollonian says: • Website
    @alan2102

    When All Else Fails–Play “Who’s Kidding Who?”

    Ho hoohoho ho ho ho, nice one, “alan2102”: thou wants to play the “who’s kidding who” little mind-game that thou leftists like to play, eh?–indeed, it’s all thou have left, actually. But anyone can do a simple search-engine entry using “Agenda-21 depopulation” and come up w. numerous results–I got 393,000 on my first try, including several Jew-tube vids.

    Socialism?–has NOTHING to do w. any actual economics, does it?–really–it’s just the all-time champion pretext/excuse for dictatorship, upon the further pretext of “moralism,” “brother’s-keeper,” non-selfishness, etc. For within strict democratic system, the majority could conceivably just vote to take the property of the minority, right?

    “Socialism” is just a way of saying, “rip some people off,” right?–like ripping-off the “rich,” the underlying excuse being, “well gee, but the rich are mean people, so it’s ok to rip them off,”

    So “socialism” amounts to a kind of cannibalism, right?–one part, the larger part, the “poor,” are allowed to eat and consume the “richer” part, eh? But then such cannibalism isn’t likely in a healthy society which always begins w. a sociology consisting of most of the people, not rich, being led by a leadership, these leaders naturally being more able and capable.

    Thus “socialism” consists of the weak cannibalizing the “strong”–eating the leaders of the society–it’s conceivable if the people consider the “rich” to have betrayed them, except that in most cases, politically, the “rich” themselves lead diff. factions of other folks.

    I suspect thou are a little late in the game now, “alan2102,” as not only is Agenda-21 & -2030 Addendum well-known for literal GENOCIDE policy, but the actual tactics and measures to be used are also well-known, like poison vaccines, poison prescription drugs, poison GMO foods, and other poisonous food-additives, poison chemicals in the packaging, like “bisphenol-A,” then there are the “chem-trails” containing poisonous barium and aluminum particulates within the atmosphere, the toxic electro-magnetic radiation, the poison glyphosates in herbicides, etc.

    “[O]bviously-demented”?–but don’t thou need to establish premises for that conclusion?–what actually is “demented,” sucker?–for I’ve only spoken truth and easily verifiable facts. I’d say thou are demented, imagining thou will get-away w. thy outright lying and moronic pretending. Oh, wait–I get it–any opposition to “socialism” lies and dictatorship is itself, “demented,” right? Ho ho o ho ho. I guess I may be “demented,” then, ho ho ho ho.

  246. @Sam J.

    Those Kaifeng Jews were at least open hebrew Israelities. And they didn’t conceal it. Unlike the pretend ones of those from the 13th tribe. They infiltrate. And subvert. They aren’t Jews of the Mosaic law but are of the Talmud. The way they treat their own aka the mizrahi jews and the black Ethiopian ones tells us all we need to know what they think of Judaism per se.

    And this later group who has so glamorized globalism that has the potential to infiltrate the power centers in China as it becomes more globalist. They know they won’t be able to do it in this current generation. So they pair up with Chinese men and have babies. As for those taking Asian wives, they easily stand out. And it’s mostly low tier Asian women who do that. The obvious strategy that will work is to lie down with powerful Chinese men and further propel their fake kosherness deep into the heart of the Han empire. DIvidends will be reaped after 20 or 30 years or perhaps more., As we know they play the long game, just like the Chinese. So it’ll be interesting to see how that pans out

  247. RWS says:

    How soon we forget our origins, when we traduce their virtues!

    The core energy of America could be found in the establishment of New England, and those colonies were intended as Christian communities to show the rest of the world the viability of practical Christian living (why else would largely middle-class Englishmen leave comfortable lives in a temperate and verdant land for the rocky soil and inhospitable climate of forests filled with fearsome beasts, to say nothing of the scattering of apprehensive and occasionally even hostile primitive tribes?). As (amazingly) the settlements prospered, they welcomed non-believers and even non-English, in keeping with Christian principles. Regrettably, the newcomers often did not embrace the founding beliefs.

    We know well what all this has led to: a country without solid adherence to core principles or even, now, a common language. It is the failure to maintain a nation, in contradistinction to an empire, that has doomed America to the end common to all empires: collapse, often deadly and always destructive.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  248. Sparkon says:
    @Erebus

    I don’t know about that. Indeed, I can’t recall reading a single article here at Unz challenging the man-made global warming scam, nor do I see much scientifically literate push-back from commenters here.

    In the recent past, former Republican heavyweights George Schultz and James Baker have trotted out their carbon credits plan:

    The Baker-Shultz plan is based on a gradually rising fee applied to all carbon emissions, with all the revenue rebated directly to the American people. A family of four would receive approximately $2,000 per year in “carbon dividends.”

    http://fortune.com/2018/09/10/baker-shultz-climate-plan/

    Even normally sensible Paul Craig Roberts is all aboard the man-made global warming bandwagon:

    In case you don’t understand what is being said, the message is that very small differences in temperature are the difference between ice ages and heat extinction ages.
    […]
    According to the evidence we have, we do not have two decades before we act on carbon emissions.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/11/02/is-the-evidence-of-global-warming-too-scary-for-humans-to-cope-with/

    Of course, there never have been any “heat extinction ages” on Earth — not even one — so this is just science by assertion, and it is sad to see PCR fall for it.

    “Carbon emissions”

    Carbon is a solid that cannot be emitted. CO₂ is a gas. C and CO₂ are not the same thing.

    The confusion about C and CO₂ is a reflection of wide-spread scientific illiteracy in the Western world.

    The Sun controls Earth’s climate, not carbon or carbon dioxide.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Erebus
  249. @alan2102

    Oh my, indeed! The Commies are crawling out of the woodwork again. It’s been right at a century since the last big push for destruction of society. What you people don’t seem to understand (per your comment here) is that there are still people in America and the West, not even too old to shoot, who DO remember a free country and DO not just remember, but KNOW PEOPLE who escaped the misery of the Easts (both of them, the Soviet Union/East Bloc, and the far East, as in Red China).

    You are under the assumption, Alan, that everyone’s forgotten. Maybe that’s true for the young people, as whatever is on their phones is all they know.

    A good K-12 edumacation would not hurt either.

    In reality, some of that is part of the problem. The Socialists and Commies would very much like to keep the Big-Gov-Agitprop that occurs in the government schools to wipe out lots of the inclinations of young people, such that they lose sight of the obvious facts of human nature that they already should have learned by kindergarten.

    I give Ron Unz credit for letting this site have a wide range of non-conventional views too, but Communism is not quite what I come here for. He is brave to have put Mr. Kersey on here.

  250. @Sparkon

    Actually, Sparkon, there’ve been quite a few Global Climate Disruption (TM) arguments here, maybe mostly under Steve Sailer’s posts. I’ve been back and forth with one guy in particular that I do respect, so I’ve tried to avoid this. My main contention is that THERE! IS! NO! WORKING! MODEL! OF! THE! EARTH’S! CLIMATE! — DAMMIT! Peak Stupidity has expounded on that – with just a sample (concentrating on the math modeling aspect) in: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, and Part 5.

    Even normally sensible Paul Craig Roberts is all aboard the man-made global warming bandwagon:

    Hey, I resemble that remark! I hope I was the reason he wanted comments turned off, but I may just have a big head. I tore him a new one on his stupidity regarding this hoax, and, though he’s a great Constitutionalist otherwise, I’m kinda proud of that. ;-}

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  251. Sparkon says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Paul Craig Roberts’ last two articles about global warming at UR with comments enabled are from Mar. 17, 2017, but commenting was not disabled for PCR’s articles here until early May 2017, so it’s doubtful the global warming issue played any role at all in PCR’s decision to disable commenting.

    Sic transit gloria mundi.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/global-warming-is-real-say-the-academies-of-sciences-of-all-of-the-major-countries-but-a-handful-of-my-readers-know-better/

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/global-warming-wrapup/

    Relative lack of sunspots in the recent past heading toward the impending Grand Solar Minimum has some saying we may be heading into a period of global cooling, and we may learn at last if chillin’ is really all that.

  252. Isabella says:
    @follyofwar

    There is always the issue when asking for “independent proof” of something that must, for obvious reasons, remain secret; classified.
    If you spend millions to design a superb weapon for self protection, but have to show the details to your enemy to prove you have it – you have no advantage any more, yes?
    And, as the man said in “how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb” – the whole point of the Doomsday machine is that it is NOT a secret [i.e. it’s existence]. The enemy must know of its existence in order to leave you alone.
    I guess you have to do one of two things, depending on your personality.
    Either examine the likelihood, go back through the history of the people we are discussing, look at how possible it actually is to get such a thing, look at their past track record for such inventions, i.e. the Kalashnikov, and decide that on balance it’s very likely true they have it, [you also have the fact that, in nearly 30 yrs of public life, the Russian President has not once, ever, been caught out telling a lie], and act accordingly,
    Or – you toss a coin, and act accordingly.
    Me, I go for the first option – and I’d put my last sixpence on it.

  253. Isabella says:
    @TKK

    Yes, I HAVE been in Russia in the last 5 years. I lived in Vladivostok for 2017.
    I got very sick with severe shingles. I was treated in the hospital, got all the medications I needed and had to pay for very little. My US$350 entry medical cover did just about everything.
    The hospital was like a top class private western one, spotless, professional, and of highest standards.
    Your thing about bribing doctors – in fact every you said – is an out and out lie.
    I only bother answering things like you for the sake of other readers who may believe you.
    Take it from me people – every thing he said is a lie. Russia is a modern, first world country. There are no armies of homeless living under bridges, as in America. No homes with crap filled sewage in the front lawn, as in some parts of America. And not once, at all, ever, has a policeman shot an unarmed suspect. Not at all.
    And I am currently planning to go back, hopefully for longer. I have never met with such decent, kind, helpful people, such a normal, efficient, first class place.

    • Agree: Erebus
    • Replies: @yurivku
  254. Yee says:

    “So “socialism” amounts to a kind of cannibalism, right?–one part, the larger part, the “poor,” are allowed to eat and consume the “richer” part, eh?”

    I always find it funny when Americans talk about the evil Socialism/ Communism they always overlook the socialism in their own country – the American Indian casinos.

    Those casinos are definitely socialism, because they’re owned by the tribes and profit shared by tribal member.

    Time to tell the American Indians to reject their cheques from casino profit or face sanctions…

  255. @Yee

    That’s as semi-retarded a retort as I could even imagine. Are you saying Indians are practicing Socialism or Americans are by letting them break the US laws on gambling? (It has to do with treaties made long time ago – personally, having separate nations, the Indians should tell the US Feral Gov’t to fuck off in EVERY RESPECT. Then, patriotic Constitution-loving Americans could ally with the Indians … hey it’s just a dream of mine….). The Indians are making money due to being under a different set of rules. Sharing the wealth is not doing them any favors – have you ever been on the Indian Res, Mr. Yee? It’s fairly depressing.

    Yes, though, the Socialism in America is huge and profound, having gained steam with the reign of that bastard Franklin Roosevelt, who was but the John-the-Baptist for the complete Socialist scumbag Johnson.

  256. Erebus says:
    @Sparkon

    The Sun controls Earth’s climate, not carbon or carbon dioxide.

    More sun energy hits the earth in an hour than we humans generate and use in a year. Add to that the heat coming coming to the surface from sub-mantle geological processes, and the discrepancy should be glaring. Our energy generation & use is an ant on a Brontosaurus’ back.

    When I first became aware of the global warming meme a couple decades ago, I figured it to be a way to get business on board the environmental bus. In that scenario, CO2 emissions serve as a proxy, or cipher for the great host of deleterious chemicals, behaviours and processes that science has no trouble proving are injurious to the planet, and if allowed to continue will make it unlivable.

    Ordinary people seem to have little objection to cleaning up their act when/if prompted to do so, but business is another story. We all happily started composting/re-using/recycling on an increasing scale, and developing new ways to do it all the time. More than a few local governments were overwhelmed with the success of their segregated multi-bin garbage collection campaigns.

    Big international business, otoh can escape the confines of local law in its fight against any change that involves non-profit making investment. They furthermore bring to bear a level of political power the general public can muster only occasionally, during revolutions. The carbon credits scheme, I surmised, was a way to force business, especially international business on board. If it costs money to not play wherever they go, they’ll grit their teeth and play.

    The controversy stems from the fact that the choice of CO2 as the culprit, and “Anthropogenic Global Warming” as the motivational Damoclean sword hanging over humanity was ill-considered. There wasn’t any legitimate science to support either choice. CO2 can’t be a culprit, and the global climate will do what it will as it has for billions of years with us and without us. We can’t do a damn thing about it other than migrate about, or buy/shed warm clothing.

    It looks like the tptb in looking for an appropriate scheme went to some amateurish PR firm who did a bit of Googling, made a few colourful PPTs, and got hired to come up with what amounts to a nonsensical marketing scheme with lots of “scientific” 3rd party endorsements and an energetic, if mis-informative, press campaign. Making CO2 the culprit rather than making an overt case for its role as a proxy, and choosing AGW rather than any of a host of future repercussions, was a strategic blunder. CO2 makes a lousy proxy and there was no evidence of AGW, and they knew it. Unable, apparently, to think of anything else they doubled down in the hope they could swamp any contrary arguments.

    Swamping contrary arguments with gobbledygook seems to be the go-to strategy whenever tptb are selling some nonsense they need the sheeple to believe to advance an agenda, so my spidey sense starts tingling when I see it happen.

    As I learned more, I’ve come to believe that it’s become more than an ill-advised, but ultimately altruistic attempt to get us to stop shitting in the nest. The mask of altruism has occasionally lowered and exposed the face of an agenda of socio-political control, and a means for a certain group of “Masters of the Universe” to profit from the onset of the inevitable post-industrial age. The opportunity for said profits to be used to augment the control is more than enough for me to reject the whole scheme.

    That’s what makes Anthropogenic Global Warming worth disputing at every turn. I agree wholeheartedly that we’ve gotta stop shitting the nest, but the AGW meme they chose, and the implications inherent in the manner in which it has been sold and implemented makes it unpalatable. I’m convinced it will fail, and the worst consequence of its inevitable demise is that any scheme, however genuinely useful, will have a very difficult time being accepted in the future.

  257. Yee says:

    Achmed E. Newman,

    “Sharing the wealth is not doing them any favors –
    ……
    It’s fairly depressing. ”

    Well then, shouldn’t you solve the evil socialism problem of the American Indian at HOME before you fight evil socialism OVERSEAS?

    Why Indians in Venezuela need liberating but not Indians in USA?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  258. yurivku says:
    @Isabella

    So surprisingly to find these kind words here. Thank you, Isabella, very much, indeed.

    I lived in Vladivostok for 2017.

    Being Russian I never been on Russia’s Far East and not sure I will, it’s about 10 hours to flight from Moscow. The most Easten place I visited was westerm Siberia, where I was serving in Soviet Army for 2 years. And I know the more you go to the East the more hospitable people are, even in Russia (I mean they everywhere are -)).
    Probably Vladivostok is really nice place, for if we’ll talk about Europian part of Russia or Ural one – people live there decent, but not actually richly. But it’s improving continuously. What about police, homeless etc – it’s true, I beleive, for the whole country and it’s also getting better.

    Eg. https://russia-insider.com/en/business/see-yourself-30-new-modern-amazing-airports-stagnating-russia-great-pictures/ri26317 .

    I’m not fond of Putin – there’s corruption in country, oligarchs ruling, people’s welfare could be much better … – but we’re peaceful people, patriotic in majority, always happy to see everyone who’s having no stone in the bosom. And we can be tough for those who have one.
    And problems mentioned above are our own, we won’t try to solve them for the others expence as ZUS/UK/EU do.

    I have never met with such decent, kind, helpful people, such a normal, efficient, first class place.

    Thanks again, it’s pleasure to meet somebody with open eyes, not alike this lier @TTT.

    And I am currently planning to go back, hopefully for longer.

    You’re highly welcome! Try to see the other places.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  259. @Yee

    I neither am trying to solve, nor even care about, the Socialism overseas, Mr. Yee, such as in Venezuala that the lower classes brought on themselves (Venezuala used to be the crown jewel of S. America, but this sort of thing is what happens when you don’t have a strong middle class …. hmmmmm..)

    None of these people need liberating. The external Cold War (attempt to turn the whole world onto Communism) has been won. The internal struggle inside America, the Long March through the Institutions, is close to being lost.

    I don’t care about Socialists and Commies outside the US anymore. It’s the ones inside that I’m concerned with.* Why do you confuse me, a patriotic American, with the US Feral Government? That’s just asinine.

    .

    * The Indians are almost an insignificant factor. Most of them probably have the same dim view of the US Feral Gov’t as I have – more power to them on that score.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  260. bluedog says:
    @yurivku

    You may not like Putin but he saved Russia from being looted and destroyed,name me one country not ruled by oligarchs, I know here in the U.S. we are, where government is owned by the 1% and that goes back thru many generations,homeless camps in every state getting ever larger with each passing year, run down cities,airports that belong in a third world country, pothole roads and condemned bridges and culverts while the money goes to the 1%,the oligarchs,so it looks like Russia is doing very well I wish we could say the same..!!

    • Replies: @yurivku
  261. yurivku says:
    @bluedog

    Yes, he did enough, but that doesn’t mean he should be here forever. I’m already many times had written about this on Unz so won’t repeat. But currently we are not talking about this, but on the contrary about destiny of Empire and the world as a whole.

  262. bluedog says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It sure was lol where the population could’nt read nor write nor recieve even the basic health care,where the wealth of the nation was pooled in the pockets of the few (must have followed Reagan’s trickle down mentality which proved a disaster in both the U.S. and England where it was followed) to me what you state is simply one bridge too far.!!!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  263. @bluedog

    8th graders could pass tests a hundred years ago, Blue Dog, that current Masters students would have a hard time with. The US had free-market health care back when my parents were young, and it was the best there ever was (ever hear of house calls?) I don’t mean the science, but the business itself. The US Feral Gov’t was hardly involved one bit back in the 50’s and 60’s and it was a hell of a good thing*.

    I wonder if your total knowledge of history, sir, is from your iPhone or modern government schools, as either one must have done a number on you. People not just not knowing, but not even being able to imagine, freedom is just very sad to me.

    .

    * Just to glean a little bit, one could go to China and learn of something of a free-market health-care system, albeit with ruder patients and less-educated (but, in some ways, more experienced) doctors – read Peak Stupidity on it: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 and a Postscript.

  264. @Joe Wong

    The essential American soul is hard, isolate, greedy, deception, false pathos, insincere heroism and killer, not stoic. Americans are spoiled whining school yard bullies.

    Sure, but that’s a pretty good trade off for the one particular habit of not shitting by the side of the road.

  265. @peterAUS

    As far as Australia and New Zealand are concerned it’s crystal clear. Somebody has to provide security for our way of life here; before it was United Kingdom, now it’s USA.

    The idea that either Oz or NZ are beneficiaries of ‘security’ ties to the benevolent hegemon du jour, is one of the most durable false tropes I’ve ever encountered.

    The political class of Australia has always sucked the cock of the hegemon du jour because that’s how they enrich themselves. During the Pommie Empire it was how local parasites got knighthoods and peerages; nowadays it’s how they get 7-figure advances for their memoirs.

    The flows of blood and treasure have always been towards the hegemon: the Boer War, WWI, the European theatre in WWII, and recent American débâcles in Viet Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. When the Japs were in the Solomons in WWII, the net flow of men and matériel was still towards the European theatre – toward the hegemon.

    Political fellatio of the hegemon has fuck-all to do with securing ‘our way of life here‘, and that’s particularly true for Oz and NZ.

    Both countries are pretty much immune to invasion – the “tyranny of distance” works both ways, and for defence purposes it is a greater deterrent than putting targeting stickers on Darwin and Pine Gap by having bits of the US Death Machine in residence. If shit kicked off, China would not be remotely troubled by Marines in Darwin – a few dozen ICBMs (or a single nuke) would easily overwhelm air defences; same with Pine Gap (assuming there’s not a gigantic, obvious security hole that provides a remote “Off” switch).

    Australia’s domestic defence strategists have long understood that anyone who tries to invade, has to do so from the North-West; bringing large numbers of troops by sea to the habitable bits (the East Coast, and a tiny southern corner of WA) is a non-starter in the modern era of satellite and aerial monitoring of the oceans.

    An overland invasion means bringing personnel and matériel thousands of kilometers through some of the least-hospitable terrain on the planet (although at least it’s flat). Long supply lines are death to invading forces – even if the defending force is not a near-peer – partly because shit breaks down when conditions are hot and dusty; partly because the fuel and drinking-water requirements for a modest invading force are staggering.

    The Yanks had all manner of trouble getting matériel (and especially water) to troops at FOBs in the Korengal, despite having absolute control of the air and nearby bases from which to launch supply missions.

    Imagine China or Indonesia (the only two putative strategic threats) trying to get enough potable water for an occupation force, to the middle of the Kimberley. They know it can’t be done – which is why they have no intention of trying to do it.

    The Chinese political class are not as stupid as Yanks; they understand that if they want raw materials from Australia, it’s easier to buy them than to try to get them for “free” by invading.

    (To be fair, the Yank parasites know that the ‘invading’ thing works out for them and their cronies, because the costs are borne by the tax base. “Empire” spending is always ruinous for the invader economy as a whole; once you factor in security costs, it’s like paying twice as much for everything you supposedly got for ‘free’).

    And as for NZ… same problem, but magnified: a smaller prize, a longer supply line, more difficult geography – and for what?

    Lange (NZ Prime Minister in the 1980s) showed the value of bullshit ‘security’ pacts when he set up a nuclear-free zone around NZ. A known and foreseeable consequence of this, was to prevent US nuclear warships from docking in NZ ports.

    This had the predictable consequence of the Yanks chucking a teenage tanty and ‘suspending’ New Zealand from ANZUS – a situation that persists to this day (notwithstanding that (((Key))) signed NZ up to participate in the Five Eyes global iGestapo).

    Neither Oz nor NZ has the slightest need to be Airstrip 2 (or 3, 4, 5, etc) for the Yank Death Machine: there are only 2 guaranteed results:
    ① our trade relationships with our nearest neighbours are made more difficult;
    ② our major cities appear on targeting lists for nuclear retaliatory strikes in the event that shit gets hot.

    Anyone who thinks that the Yanks would rush to our defence if anyone invaded, is being silly and unrealistic.

  266. peterAUS says:
    @Kratoklastes

    ..there are only 2 guaranteed results:
    ① our trade relationships with our nearest neighbours are made more difficult;

    And our trade relationships with the parts of the world controlled by the Hegemon are made easier.
    Choices…choices….
    Not only trade relationships either. I mean, life is a bit more than just about trade. Well, for majority of core Australians and Kiwis I mean.
    True, with immigration, especially from China and “progressive” governments that doesn’t need to stay as it is.
    I mean, when you see Taiwan, no wonder a lot of here slide along the same path.

    ② our major cities appear on targeting lists for nuclear retaliatory strikes in the event that shit gets hot

    Compared to the benefits from the previous paragraph, it’s worth it. Because, if “shit gets hot” we’ll all die within several months. Most likely those who die in nuclear blast will fare better than those who’ll die of nuclear poisoning/winter/whatever.

    So, yes, fundamentally, you are correct. Doesn’t matter. The Hegemon wants our participation. That’s the price for being on his good side. Simple as that.

    The World needs Hegemon; somebody…SOMETHING..which can control and manage us.

    The fundamental difference between people like you and me is simple: you believe that humans are inherently good. I believe humans are inherently bad.
    I suggest we skip debating that.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  267. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Yee

    I always find it funny when Americans talk about the evil Socialism/ Communism

    As long as right-wingers are busily searching for commies under the bed they’re no threat. They’re fighting a war that ended decades ago.

    Meanwhile they’re not noticing the threat from an entirely different ideology. The ideology we have to worry about today is a kind of fascism, but without the nationalism. When Big Business and Big Government are joined at the hip you have fascism.

    There aren’t any commies any more. By the way, it’s not 1955 any more either.

  268. Ruprecht says:

    Don’t worry about it, Fred.

    US judge rules it’s unconstitutional to exclude women from the draft.

    The empire can never fight a major war again. We’re watching the twilight of the empire:

    https://theredfootedbooby.com/2019/02/26/in-the-news-u-s-federal-court-rules-women-are-not-exempt-from-registering-for-the-draft/

  269. Erebus says:
    @peterAUS

    And our trade relationships with the parts of the world controlled by the Hegemon are made easier.
    Choices…choices….

    The extent to which you misunderstand things is breathtaking at times.

    China is the primary reason you have a way of life worth maintaining now. OZ’s economic fortunes are tied directly to China’s buying of OZ’s ores, coal and agri-products. The whole country lives off that patrimony. If China shuts that trade down, OZ’s economy tanks in exactly the same way the US’ would. Mountains of private and public debt, and no wealth generating industry left to pay it off makes for an unhappy “way of life”.

    Click on the various trade stats available on the left side at this link to see how dependent OZ is on China for its way of life. https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/AUS
    If that doesn’t straighten you out, nothing will.

    The “parts of the world controlled by the Hegemon” aren’t buying what OZ has to sell, because [a] having also hollowed themselves out, most of them have little use for raw materials, and [b] OZ is too far away from any who still have a use for them. A slightly wider view than what’s offered through the 10′ length of 1″ pipe you’re looking through further reveals that the parts of the world that the Hegemon controls are re-aligning and/or shrinking. The Hegemon’s world will continue to re-align/shrink until there’s nobody left to sell to. What then?

    They’re gonna take your toys away if you continue to misbehave. China recently shut/slowed down OZ coal imports over OZ’s Huawei ban. It was a shot across the bow. What’s next? Iron? Beef? Wine?

    Germany and the UK were smarter than that. They know which way the wind is blowing, and said “no” to the Hegemon’s demands. They ain’t willing to piss against it into their own cornflakes.

    Should things escalate and China bans OZ imports altogether, OZ goes into a world of hurt it’ll take generations to climb out of. Where’s your “security” and “way of life” then? In the shitter, that’s where.

    The World needs Hegemon; somebody…SOMETHING..which can control and manage us.

    It does? It never had one until 30 years or so ago. Why does it need one now? Are Aussies really so uncivilized by nature that they need to be “controlled” from halfway ’round the world by a bunch of Zio-Neocon ideologues? Or is it simply the case that you’ve been looking through that 10′ length of pipe for so long that it’s become an ingrown part of your anatomy?

    Read again the story of the full grown elephant tethered by his childhood narrative to a post he could simply walk away from/with. Other than perhaps Canada & Mexico, those currently “controlled” by the US are that elephant.

    • Agree: tamo, dfordoom
  270. @a German

    While your children will be bending over — literally, culturally, and financially — for their Muslim, African, Kurd, Turk, and Arab overlords.

    A fucking German has the gall to lecture us about OUR decline? Your folks are the biggest self-hating pussies in the world (competing with Sweden).

    First protect your own people in their own country, then start having children (with one male and one female parent, which apparently many Germans and Americans need specified), stop worshipping homosexuality, and grow some balls. Dann koennen wir uns noch mal unterhalten.

    Apparently most of the Germans who had courage, self-respect, and common sense either immigrated to the USA (like some of my ancestors) or died in the wars. Because what’s left is pathetic. Klaeglich.

    I do agree that the us government, like the German government, is dishonest, immoral, disloyal to its own people, and needlessly destructive. But remove the beam in your own eye before pointing out the mote in someone else’s eye.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  271. That’s one way of looking at it. But I don’t see it that way.
    I suggest that the US has been taken over by internationalist traitors. Traitors who while in the process of looting the US and using it to achieve their ends are also making sure that when they scurry off to another host the US will not have the ability to come after them.
    I think it is obvious that those running the US now do not have the interests of the US at heart.

  272. Why should Deplorables who are being priced out of car ownership as fast as they were priced out of home owmership and even basic rent care about Empire-sustaining oil, when dual-high-earner parents in their family-friendly / absenteeism-friendly crony jobs, and their college-aged and younger children, trundle casually around the global Empire all of the time, skipping out on hard work and study to enjoy multiple, jet-fueled leisure jaunts every year ‘cause global travel is the new elite status symbol, replacing BMWs and Craftsman houses?

  273. yurivku says:
    @RadicalCenter

    First protect your own people in their own country, then start having children (with one male and one female parent, which apparently many Germans and Americans need specified), stop worshipping homosexuality, and grow some balls.

    Seems like when they have grown “some balls” they begin to recall Hitler’s ideas. So, I’d prefer them without those. Let them lick the merican arse and welcome africans.

    But Europe is a pity…

  274. @Kratoklastes

    They don’t need to invade. There are only 24 million of you with <2.0 TFR. One more generation of Chinese homebuying and they'll have all the political influence and clandestine operations they need. The Commonwealth is living in a happy fantasy.

  275. @flashlight joe

    The idea that war is fought for good, noble purposes to do something nice for somebody, is a result of the education and culture which promotes the war over slavery myth.

    As if war was about doing good for others.

    If you believe war is about doing something nice, you are brainwashed

    While in general I agree with your assessment of war and calls to war, I think there are exceptions. For example: around 1927, the Chinese Communist Party went to war, saying that they wanted to rescue China from semi-colonial slavery and make China a place worth living in again, for the great mass of the Chinese people. It took them (and a lot of non-communists) a long and desperate struggle, the war ending only in 1949, (or 1953 if you prefer) but that idea never faltered and in very fact, they are still working on it, with results that anyone not blinded by bias can see.

  276. @Harold Smith

    So how did the US get so far behind Russia in key areas of military technology, for example?

    The job of the US MIC as I see it, and it seems as they see it too, is to shovel as much money as possible in to private pockets, rather than to design really effective weapons. You don’t need cutting edge research (horribly expensive that, and not much profit in it for shareholders!) to design things that will take a lot of time to design and produce and a lot of expensive servicing to maintain. So long as you don’t have to fight a peer enemy, capable of fighting back, who cares?

    The Russian MIC otoh, is state owned, for the most part and the demand is for real, rugged weapons at the lowest practical price. There are very few private companies/shareholders and those there are, have to compete with the government arsenals & cannot lobby the lawmakers.

  277. Kendenis says:

    I think yes it’s about oil – but not in the common understanding of why.

    America doesn’t need all the world’s oil for it’s own consumption as it already has more than enough secured supplies. it simply wishes to control the rest to keep it out of the reach of it’s competitors.

    Rather like a savage animal that will not share an abundant amount of food that is far more than it can possibly consume itself.

    We say in England – “like a dog in a manger”

  278. Ahoy says:

    After the battle of Waterloo a Rothschild walked to the Palace and asks the King for the priviledge to issue money, in exchange for writing off the war debts. With this priviledge at hand gave us the famous “Let me have the right to issue money and the politiciens can pass whatever laws they want”

    In 1913 Wilson gave him the FED. The Empire in essence was transformed to City Empire. The titles “British” or “American” were kept as a facade. They want complete control of the world’s banking system. Whoever resists is exited, exactly as the case of Iraq, Libya. Maduro has the audacity to have in his country a National Bank, so it must be taken away from him. The talk about democracy, hungry Venezouelans, etc, is nothing but bs.

    Here is a Rothschild in action.

    https://i2.wp.com/www.johnccarleton.org/BLOGGER/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/princebanker.png?fit=500%2C522

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