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In the Long Run, We Are all Dead

More fun in the Indispensable Nation: As we have all heard by now, according to Hillary, ardent of becoming National Basilisk, half of Trump’s supporters are evil and the other half losers, deplorables all. That is, she holds half of Americans in contempt. Unsurprisingly she said this in New York, which is barely America, and to a convention of sexual curiosities.

I frankly think her admirable. As she coughs, staggers, convulses, lies, pilfers, sells favors and lapses into intermittent confusion, she still has the courage to tell America that she loathes half of it. That´s candor.

Give her credit for consistency. She is always mendacious, firmly in the pockets of Wall Street, Israel, the Neocon hawks, and the arms industry, never having accomplished anything on her own, always riding Bill’s coattails, having a disastrous record as SecState, always for sale. With her, we know what we will get. With Trump, it’s a roll of very weird dice.

Ah, the Donald. While he unmistakably displays various presidential qualities–he can walk up stairs by himself, and his eyes usually point in the same direction–there is indeed a certain aleatory quality to the man. God knows what he might do. He shoots from the hip, saying all sorts of loopy but interesting things. Interesting if you live somewhere else. He talks unflatteringly about the other sex near open mikes, instead of away from them like everybody else.

The Donald merely makes me nervous, while Hillary makes me want to take poison. It is the difference between an acid trip and death by sinus drainage. His truly great strength is that he is not Hillary. The election is really a contest between placeholders for conflicting interests, for different views of the world. Few would want either if there were another choice.

Hillary’s attitude toward America has for years been implicit in our ruling class in New York. Having little in common with the rest of the country, they speak of most of it as Flyover Land, a realm of intellectual darkness and barbarism separating Manhattan and Hollywood. So far as I know, this is the first time the elites have had the confidence, if not necessarily the judgement, to say it plainly.

Let’s not delude ourselves. America is ruled by the Five Cities, Boston, New York, Washington, Tel Aviv, and Hollywood. The rest of us just pay taxes. The heart of the beast is New York, the Ivies being its nursery and Washington its storefront.

To a practicing curmudgeon, the presidential contest is amusing but unimportant. Hillary will win, whether she wins or not. She is just the wave front of deep and fast-flowing currents of decay that cannot be stopped. Trump may try, but he cannot succeed. We live in a dying culture and, soon, a diminished country. It cannot be saved.

Not true? Add up the bits and pieces. We laugh in horror, some of us, primarily the older, at the decline of schooling, the courses like Batman and the Struggle for Gender Equity. Comic, yes. Yet in aggregate these constitute an academic and civilizational collapse both profound and irreversible. Enstupidation does not happen in a healthy country. Who even wants to reverse this onrushing night? Not the universities, nor the teachers unions, nor a professoriat gone as daft as the “students,” nor the banks battening on student loans.

It is over. Hillary may start wars in her six months before going into a sanatorium. Trump may build walls. But the rot will go on. Tell me why it won’t.

American culture now drinks deeply from the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either. The country has achieved the dictatorship of the sub-proletariat. Someone said that when the lower orders found that they could vote themselves the treasury, they would. They can also vote themselves the culture, and have.

There is no solution. Complaining about degraded music, semi-literacy, and barnyard taste accomplishes nothing. Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost. Once broken, the chain cannot be repaired.

It is over. Putrefaction is irreversible, either by Ronald or Lucretia.

The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it. Impunity, normal in Guatemala, allows corruption to go unpunished. Think sub-prime. Hillary is as crooked as any president in Latin America, everyone knows it, and nothing happens to her. The extremely rich, the famous one percent, control Wall Street, the media, Congress, banking, the social media. The well-being of all but the rich declines. It will go on. There is no way to change it. Who will do it? How?

It is over. Ronald can’t stop it. Lucretia doesn’t want to.

It goes rapidly now. Perhaps worst, because it paralyzes resolution, in a few short decades the country has lost all cohesion, whether cultural, racial, linguistic, or religious. In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together, and poor communications provided enough separation to maintain peace among groups that detested each other: Massachusetts and Alabama, West Virginia and California.

The US, once a nation, is now a group of angry minorities in the same place. Things that seem insane to half the country, such as making girls of twelve years share public bathrooms with any man interested in girls of twelve, are promoted by the other half as requisite for equality. Blacks are in open insurrection. The borders barely exist. The government cannot or will not enforce the laws. How can this change, other than to worsen?

ORDER IT NOW

Further, America is rapidly becoming a hive of narcissistic milquetoasts in extended adolescence, of delicates and Fauntleroys unable to care for themselves. Those who read speak with reason of Eloi and Morlocks, but few read. We elders read agape of the microaggressions and safe spaces, of cry-baby co-eds who sob in fear at seeing a mouse. Snowflakes they are called, and snowflakes they are.

The potential consequences of this are not easily grasped by those under fifty. The United States has been remarkably protected for decades. America’s wars are fought in other people’s countries. Except for 9/11 the public has never been subjected to the horrors routinely inflicted by America in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and so on. Ever fewer Americans have been in a schoolyard fight, baited a hook, fired a gun, or lived a week in the woods. We are a coddled nation.

My saying this will bring forth much squeaking and gibbering to the effect that I am insecure and fantasizing about Marlboro Man, remembering a macho world that never was, a latent transgender, and that I hate everybody. Only the last comes close.

But America is more fragile than it looks. Its people cannot feed themselves. The economy really can collapse. If civil unrest broke the link from farm to cities, in two weeks New Yorkers would be eating each other. Soft white urbanites eeeeking and squealing about guns cannot defend themselves.
It is over. Watch. Trump if elected will be more interesting, Hillary a boring but more certain civilizational mortician, but both are chips floating on a fetid tide.

Fred is reachable at jetpossum-readers@yahoo.com. Put “pdq” in the subject line of your email or it will be heartlessly autodeleted. Lack of response usually due to volume, not bad manners.

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  1. Ridiculous to compare Hillary to Lucretia. By all reports, Lucretia was stunningly attractive and graceful.

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  2. Nice screed. Makes me glad that–I’m Fred’s age–the curtain will fall soon (gently, I hope). Still, there’s fun to be had, even in an apocalypse. Thus: lots of gun and ammo, lots deep amusement at the folly-dance of the elite, much joy to be got from watching media slit its own throat and bugaloo in the blood spew, much quiver from looking at the once-great cities and thinking “Soon gone forever.” Also: sleep, a good woman, lots of bourbon. It ain’t the smell of victory, but it beats suicide.

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    • Replies: @cane toad
    Good comment, look on the sunny side of life! I'm 66, it has it's advantages. I often tell my husband our ravings won't change anything, this all proceeds without our agreement, approval. And it is much bigger than us. Worldwide changes are happening that will change everything, we just have to manage our own affairs keeping the ongoing gotterdamerung in mind. Enjoy what's left to enjoy, from a distance. Big cities, cesspools, not centers of civilization, diversity, a huge disappointment, elites, always a problem, and the mainstream media, avoid, avoid. We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care.
    , @Corvinus
    For those who are above 60 years of age such as yourself and cane toad and Fred, you're jaded. It's other than surprising that there will be this "I can't do anything about the impending doom" mentality. Rather than lament and throw up your hands in the air, use that wisdom and become actively involved in solving problems rather than contributing to the malaise.

    Now Fred...

    "Let’s not delude ourselves. America is ruled by the Five Cities, Boston, New York, Washington, Tel Aviv, and Hollywood. The rest of us just pay taxes. The heart of the beast is New York, the Ivies being its nursery and Washington its storefront."

    Of course you are deluding yourself, because American citizens are not controlled by these cities, they are governed by those whom they elect into office. And, remember Fred, you are living in Mexico on the gummint's dime. Perhaps you should practice what you preach and refrain from pilfering the coffers.

    "American culture now drinks deeply from the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either. The country has achieved the dictatorship of the sub-proletariat. Someone said that when the lower orders found that they could vote themselves the treasury, they would. They can also vote themselves the culture, and have."

    American culture has always transformed itself, and members from each generation find disgust over certain aspects of it.

    "The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it."

    Of course there is something to do about it. Get busy living or get busy dying.

    "In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together, and poor communications provided enough separation to maintain peace among groups that detested each other: Massachusetts and Alabama, West Virginia and California."

    Corrected for accuracy --> In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, generally embraced a particular religion, were unified by the American culture, and consisted of several racial and ethnic groups, with some people in different regions disliking one another for a host of reasons. Despite those conflicts, Americans found a way to remain united overall.

  3. I was feeling a little low, Fred. Thanks for the uplifting thoughts and words. I now feel better.

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    More fun in the Indispensable Nation

    Please don’t talk like a Supremacist (Suprematists would be better, maybe).
    We all know the Indispensable Nations are two, one is Mexico, the other is you-know-which.

    Give her credit for consistency. She is always mendacious, firmly in the pockets of Wall Street, Israel, the Neocon hawks, and the arms industry

    Of Saudi Arabia too. And I recently read they got money also from Russia (google “Clinton Russia uranium”).

    This said, you are writing terrifyingly well. There’s something in this piece I don’t know how to define, perhaps a… cutting sincerity, that really impressed me.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost. Once broken, the chain cannot be repaired.

    It is over. Putrefaction is irreversible, either by Ronald or Lucretia.

    The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it. Impunity, normal in Guatemala, allows corruption to go unpunished. Think sub-prime.

    All columnists are telling Unz readers there realities, and most of Unz readers already know them.
    One comes here everyday to rob himself the curiosity of how this small group of very sharp-witted people will reword the same. Sincerity is so rare that the articles restating and restating the same never get boresome.

    Yet there’s something no-one dares to tell: that destiny is destiny, life is a cycle, and that subjection to destiny and cyclicity regard countries, cultures, civilizations as they do each of us.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost.

    I see most of the over 50 completely oblivious of this fact: they seem more hopeful, if not optimistic, and combatant than the young.
    I think what misdirects them is they aren’t in touch with the young people. They don’t read the forums and blogs where the young people comments. They haven’t visited a campus for decades and have no idea what things are like now (such an episode is the subject of a most touching, veiledly autobiographic, chapter of I am Charlotte Simmons).

    This is why they hope.

    I was in the company of some 40-and-something-year-old English teachers — all women, that goes without saying –, someone brought up the subject of the comparative of “stupid” saying she couldn’t believe some students were so ignorant they thought it was possible to write “stupidest”, while the rule everybody knows says it must be “more stupid”.

    I tried to object to that and tell them the complete rule and how there is nothing wrong with “stupider” at all, and they were, well, shook. One or two mocked me for my ignorance (you don’t know disyllables always get the “more” in front of them. The others chose to be civil and conceal their shock at my ignorance.

    A look at school, at the students and, no less, the teachers, tells us all we need to know.
    They don’t even know the great things behind us.

    Mention Thomas Gray to them, to the teachers of English I mean, and see if we are still a country or not.

    So, thanks for the courage not to wear an optimistic mask as if this still were a party.

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    • Replies: @Chris Mallory

    Of Saudi Arabia too.
     
    Saudi is nothing but an Israeli puppet.
    , @ursus ursa
    Lucretia Borgia had bad press - she has been slandered, largely by the 19th Century French Romantics - notably Victor Hugo - who forever biased our perception of a very complex character. Certainly, to compare her with the ghoulish Hillary Clinton is deeply offensive to students of the medieval papacy.
    , @Cato
    Thomas Gray? Didn't he write the most popular poem ever written in the English language? The poem that initiated the cult of death that cast a shadow over the entire reign of Queen Victoria? Not important! Toni Morrison's work, now that's important! And Kanye West--what could be more important than his work?
    , @Che Guava
    Well, I'm sure you know heavy, heavier, heaviest.

    The customary usage had no such rule that those half-educated, semi-literate twats are screaming about.

    The best usage varied with the adjective.

    American middle high-school teachers are responsible for numerous other crimes, 'never use with', so we have the idiotic 'align to', and many similar.

    One that really grates on me is most current US usage of 'speaks to' as the universal substitute for 'speaks of', 'speaks for', and, indeed, 'speaks to', all of which mean different things.

    Another is the tendency to universally postfix adverbs, even in cases where they are more naturally prefixed.

    The basis of that particular idiocy is simply that by doing so nobody is going to OMG split the infinitive as I just did with


    to universally postfix adverbs
    ;

    tell me why that form isn't the most suitable?

    Offer a better flow? I seriously wonder why I spent so much time studying and reading English, when US education is clearly barbaric on the point.

    Not that the mother version is blameless, singular entities as plural 'the government are', 'the EU are' etc.

    I think that comes from years of soccer commentators 'Liverpool are ...'.

    Language crimes, all.
    , @EH
    "Stupidest" has ten times more G---le hits than "most stupid", is used at least three times in OED quotations, and has references going back to the 18th century (an Old Bailey prosecutor, at that). These bovine educatrices seem to think they know how to speak English better than Thomas Carlyle, Joseph Conrad, A.A. Milne or Mark Twain, who all used "stupidest".

    John McIntyre wrote in the Baltimore Sun regarding a lady's sniffy complaint to a friend regarding the use of "stupidest":

    This is too choice a specimen to pass up. It is a classic example of the way the peeververein operate: misinformed assertion, amplified by unreliable information, coupled with a smug assumption that anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant/careless/sloppy/unworthy.
     
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    Minor quibble: city #4 is Jerusalem, not Tel Aviv

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Tel Aviv shouldn't be listed, honestly. A huge portion of the power elite (maybe a third going from billionaires lists?) is Jewish, but it's based in New York and Hollywood, not Tel Aviv (or Jerusalem).
  6. “God knows what he might do.”

    He might not try to start a war with Russia?

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    • Replies: @RaceRealist88
    And try to start a war with Iran for Israel. As long as our "Presidents" bow to foreign powers, nothing will change. Israel dictates American foreign policy.
  7. On my darker days, I agree with Fred’s analysis. Can anything rise out of the ashes of this once great country? I can’t see these inexperienced, feeble, pencil-necked sissies staying in charge forever. Sooner or later an iron-fisted leader emerges and takes down the eunuchs. Whether our future dictator is a remnant of the European people who carved a nation out of a forest, or if it’s some barbarian new to this land, will be decided at that time.

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  8. One of your best, Fred.

    There is no way to change it. Who will do it? How?

    As far as how goes, the bio weapons will do it.

    Who? Lots of candidates. I think the A-rabs will keep pushing to destroy the Israelis which gives them (the Israelis) the inside rail (see: Samson option), but who knows, maybe some racial supremacist will come from behind?

    Fact is that within a few years it will take very little infrastructure and only moderately high intelligence to whip up some really nasty stuff. No governments need be involved, just somebody really pissed. If asking how, the more appropriate question is how are you going to stop them.

    There are plenty of stories around about people who think the West is already putting bugs out. Crazy? I think so, but for someone who believes it, it makes a good case for revenge.

    Interesting times.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    As far as how goes, the bio weapons will do it.
     
    Unlikely. The bioweapons are unstable beyond one life cycle.

    Which is not really the issue. Those who would release the bioweapons stand to lose more than they could gain. Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.
  9. If you don’t want war, especially WW3, better vote for Trump. But Fred is right, the problems are massive and it is increasingly implausible that they can be solved with the people and resources on hand. Not to mention the looming food and water crises, and rising populations in the 3d world which is already unable to feed itself. If the climate cools, as predicted by solar experts, things will get very desperate indeed.

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    • Replies: @rod1963
    Oh the problems could be solved but it would take a tyrant to make them happen. All Trump will do if he wins is slow the decline by a decade at best. He's facing the deep state/political class/MSM/Silicon Valley oligarchs, etc. Short of having them killed or driven off, they'll be back when he leaves.

    The odd thing is, if Hillary is elected, she'll probably set off a civil war or economic collapse. She may be the elite's puppet, but by god she's as hamfisted, hateful and thick as they come. Her track record as SofS is a total disaster.

    I can see her issuing EO's to confiscate people's firearms and silence blogs and sites that offend her in the name of national security and anti-racism. Then once the door kicking begins in earnest, things go pear shaped real fast.

    Oh yeah then there's her mad on for Russia. Money is on her going to war with Russia. It's almost a given when you see that claque of retired Neo-con generals who endorsed her. Lets not forget that homo house boy Ash Carter as Sec Def. He doesn't like the ruskies either.

    Interesting and bloody times ahead.
    , @RaceRealist88
    He will go to war with Iran for the Jews "our greatest ally" (his words). Whoever wins, we go to war. Whoever wins, we lose. Trump is not for us, he's for Jewish oligarchs and his new Jewish family.
  10. Yeah, some people are terrified by clowns, but many of us enjoy the entertainment they provide.

    Better a clown than a demonstrable war criminal.

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  11. My Main Man Fred is his old marvelous self again- Thank You God.
    “American culture now drinks deeply of the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either.”
    Many years ago, in the black and white TV era, I watched Bishop Fulton Sheen say : ” When any civilization is healthy and vigorous, the Lower Orders ape their Betters ; when it is in decay and dying, the Betters ape the Lower Orders.”
    Now that’s real Conservatism “with the bark off” .
    It is simultaneously:
    1) Brutally insensitive
    2) Shocking arrogant
    3 ) Dead on the money True
    Is White Christian Civilization of such unique enduring value as to be worth sacrificing to pass on whole and entire the Heritage we were gifted at birth to our descendants as it was given to us ?
    Apparently our Rulers believe not.

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    • Replies: @TheJester

    “American culture now drinks deeply of the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either." -- Fred Reed
     

    Many years ago, in the black and white TV era, I watched Bishop Fulton Sheen say : ” When any civilization is healthy and vigorous, the Lower Orders ape their Betters ; when it is in decay and dying, the Betters ape the Lower Orders.”
     
    Oldeguy, thank you for the Bishop Sheen reference. I used to watch him on TV as a child, but I was then too young to understand what he was saying

    This aping of the lower orders and their culture is abrasively apparent everywhere you look. Walk through an upper-scale high school in an upper-scale city and you know that, even in these privileged places, the "end is nigh!" The infection is universal.

    I moved the family from southern California when I delivered my son to high school and watched a coed walk in the front door dressed in high-cut gym shorts and wearing a low-cut halter top and thongs. This was after we passed the "Gothics" and every other grouped variety of social disorder representing most of the rest of the student population. What will these idle adolescents do when they grow up? Oh, I'm sorry, I guess they never do grow up.

    We now live in Mid-Atlantica. Only slightly better by a few degrees ... and a sense of hopelessness about it all.

  12. Gee, Fred, why so glum? Turn that frown upside down.

    Hillary will be elected. The borders will be opened. The rich will get richer faster than ever, and soon there will be no wealth that is not held by the 1 percent. We will enter an interregnum period, where revolt will simmer and bubble, but the exigencies of everyday life for the 99 percent will be so demanding that all their effort must turn to staying alive — as the 1 percent intend.

    There will be no revolt. The 1 percent will maintain separation, and everyday life for the 99% will merge into a haze of misery and hunger. And the thousand-year reich will come to pass — just not as many have envisioned it.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    "Hillary be be elected"

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn't relish it they wouldn't say it.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years, and pro Jazz performer.
  13. @another fred
    One of your best, Fred.

    There is no way to change it. Who will do it? How?
     
    As far as how goes, the bio weapons will do it.

    Who? Lots of candidates. I think the A-rabs will keep pushing to destroy the Israelis which gives them (the Israelis) the inside rail (see: Samson option), but who knows, maybe some racial supremacist will come from behind?

    Fact is that within a few years it will take very little infrastructure and only moderately high intelligence to whip up some really nasty stuff. No governments need be involved, just somebody really pissed. If asking how, the more appropriate question is how are you going to stop them.

    There are plenty of stories around about people who think the West is already putting bugs out. Crazy? I think so, but for someone who believes it, it makes a good case for revenge.

    Interesting times.

    As far as how goes, the bio weapons will do it.

    Unlikely. The bioweapons are unstable beyond one life cycle.

    Which is not really the issue. Those who would release the bioweapons stand to lose more than they could gain. Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.

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    • Replies: @The Alarmist

    "Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk."
     
    Exactamundo! It was the Black Death (plague) of the Middle Ages that made labor so scarce that serfs could pretty much put their services up to the highest bidder, thereby weakening the nobles' hold over them and setting in motion nearly 800 year rise of the average commoner to middle class prosperity and near self-government.

    Fortunate for the elite, they have learned many of the lessons of the Romans on how to reduce the bulk of the populace back to serfdom via crushing debt and a dearth of opportunity. They might want to get global population back to half a billion or so, but they are going to start "over there." If we're lucky, they'll start before the migrant waves start in earnest.
    , @mobi

    Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.
     
    The bulk of the worker population will be obsolete in our lifetime.

    Unprecedented times.
    , @Poke646,0
    They are just waiting for nanotech to get to a point where they won't need us useless eaters. At that point things will end in a whimper as we all turn into puddles of mush as nanobots disassemble us atom by atom.
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    Yeah, some people are terrified by clowns, but many of us enjoy the entertainment they provide.

    Better a clown than a demonstrable war criminal.

    Amazing how even the alt-right bought into this corporate media establishment characterization of Trump as a clown. The dude went to Wharton, built a $10 billion business, had a NYT all-time bestselling book, had a top-rated prime-time TV show, is credited with revitalization of NYC , has the backing of business titan billionaires, et al. Yet somehow the globalist cabal puppet masters, through their corporate media, was able to easily sell Trump as a clown. Amazing. Scary. Kind of backs up Fred’s negative view of it all.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    And went bankrupt 4 times. He's a very imperfect vessel...but the only one we have.
    , @Grahamsno(G64)

    The dude went to Wharton
     
    No he never graduated from Wharton as he would like all to believe he graduated from Penn State which had a student exchange program with Wharton. Trump is a king sized liar but his lies are all related to his ego unlike the dangerous Hillary a revolting sleazebag who can't wait to start a war with Russia and try to resurrect the collapsing American foreign policy.
  15. You’re right Fred. It’s over for the Republic. It’s over for American society. It’s been over for awhile. And now it’s over for the Empire. Post imperial America will not be anything like post war America. It will be a horrible mess. You can take that as justification for your own nihilism. But your proselytizing is in poor taste. Men of good will work for the good when they are winning and when they are losing. Electing Trump will not prevent the crash. Nothing can prevent the crash. But electing Trump, whether he is allowed to take office or not, is a step in the right direction.

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    • Replies: @Vladtero
    "Men of good will work for the good when they are winning and when they are losing."

    Very well said sir. Very well indeed. Our Republic (what is left of it) needs so many more good folk like you.

    , @Miro23

    Men of good will work for the good when they are winning and when they are losing.
     
    Very good Working Class, that's the essence of the thing.
    , @Jack Sewell

    "Nothing can prevent the crash. But electing Trump, whether he is allowed to take office or not, is a step in the right direction."

     



    Agree. As Anthony Trollope, in one of his parliamentary novels, wrote:
    “The best carriage horses are those which can most steadily hold back against the coach as it trundles down the hill.”
  16. Fred has raised his game with this piece, but it’s still misdirection.

    “How can this change, except to worsen?”

    Well, it could improve. That’s the alternative. But Fred fails to mention it, the implication being that for the reader there is no option but to wallow in decay, decadence, and decline, thus the more readily submitting to the globalist plan for the abolition of the EuroAmerican nation.

    Well done, Fred. You’ve duped the rubes here.

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  17. @Lucius
    Ridiculous to compare Hillary to Lucretia. By all reports, Lucretia was stunningly attractive and graceful.

    Agreed.

    Besides, the Borgias were low tech but highly efficient problem solvers.

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  18. Fred took the advice of his fellow latent transgender Sting when he skedaddled down Mexico way. The advice being, “When the world is running down, gotta do the best with what’s still around”. This song lyric is from 1983 before Ronald Reagan ever thought of NAFTA and illegal alien amnesties.

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  19. Fred’s points about US civilizational decline are very accurate and the most disturbing trend in the US now. The decline of US civilization has gone on now for 50 years, through Republican and Democratic administrations alike, as well as a whole bunch of other cultural and technological changes. The US will survive a HRC or Trump administration; it can’t survive a continuous decline in civil culture. And it seems like there is nothing to stop or even slow the decline.

    This is the ambient environment in which I have had to raise my children, and it hasn’t been easy. I feel similar to the internal exiles that existed in the Soviet Union. I’ve kept my kids away from almost all TV and make sure they read books a lot. I play classic piano (poorly it must be said) and my wife dances ballet for exercise. I know once they leave the house, they are exposed to the idiocy of the current culture; nothing can be done about that. I just want them to be exposed to an alternative as much as possible and hope that some of it sticks…

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  20. @pyrrhus
    If you don't want war, especially WW3, better vote for Trump. But Fred is right, the problems are massive and it is increasingly implausible that they can be solved with the people and resources on hand. Not to mention the looming food and water crises, and rising populations in the 3d world which is already unable to feed itself. If the climate cools, as predicted by solar experts, things will get very desperate indeed.

    Oh the problems could be solved but it would take a tyrant to make them happen. All Trump will do if he wins is slow the decline by a decade at best. He’s facing the deep state/political class/MSM/Silicon Valley oligarchs, etc. Short of having them killed or driven off, they’ll be back when he leaves.

    The odd thing is, if Hillary is elected, she’ll probably set off a civil war or economic collapse. She may be the elite’s puppet, but by god she’s as hamfisted, hateful and thick as they come. Her track record as SofS is a total disaster.

    I can see her issuing EO’s to confiscate people’s firearms and silence blogs and sites that offend her in the name of national security and anti-racism. Then once the door kicking begins in earnest, things go pear shaped real fast.

    Oh yeah then there’s her mad on for Russia. Money is on her going to war with Russia. It’s almost a given when you see that claque of retired Neo-con generals who endorsed her. Lets not forget that homo house boy Ash Carter as Sec Def. He doesn’t like the ruskies either.

    Interesting and bloody times ahead.

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  21. We are the Dark Eloi. We will not be politely cannibalized by the Morlocks.

    The Good Eloi and the Morlocks can have what is left of America. They broke it, they bought it.

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  22. A good article from Fred.

    The USA is truly the Jewel in Israel’s Crown. Colony USA transfers her wealth to Israel and sends her troops to fight her wars, while her Imperial administrators run the FED, Treasury, media and Congress.

    On this view, elections are a native affair, where a “President” needs to be friendly to Imperial interests (i.e. not subversive). The US could go lower but it is probably most useful to the Empire as a cash cow and source of military manpower, with Hillary being the chief collaborator and a vote for continuity.

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    • Replies: @RaceRealist88
    As Trump says "They are our greatest ally" (Israel). And people really believe things will change if he wins. They fell for the cult of personality.
    , @annamaria
    "Colony USA transfers her wealth to Israel and sends her troops to fight her wars, while her Imperial administrators run the FED, Treasury, media and Congress."

    And the US has been eaten away for this?
    "The Empire Files: How Palestine Became Colonized:"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT5L4YU_Fl4

  23. @John Jeremiah Smith

    As far as how goes, the bio weapons will do it.
     
    Unlikely. The bioweapons are unstable beyond one life cycle.

    Which is not really the issue. Those who would release the bioweapons stand to lose more than they could gain. Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.

    “Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.”

    Exactamundo! It was the Black Death (plague) of the Middle Ages that made labor so scarce that serfs could pretty much put their services up to the highest bidder, thereby weakening the nobles’ hold over them and setting in motion nearly 800 year rise of the average commoner to middle class prosperity and near self-government.

    Fortunate for the elite, they have learned many of the lessons of the Romans on how to reduce the bulk of the populace back to serfdom via crushing debt and a dearth of opportunity. They might want to get global population back to half a billion or so, but they are going to start “over there.” If we’re lucky, they’ll start before the migrant waves start in earnest.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    They might want to get global population back to half a billion or so, but they are going to start “over there.”
     
    A global population of two billion is closer to the critical mass necessary for scientific and technological progress. Maybe 1.5B, maybe.
  24. The next President and Party get saddled with the global financial collapse in 2018. Given that the Repubes are the Stupid Party, there’s a good likelihood that Trump may actually pull this one out of the fire. HRC may dream of winning and “making history”, but the Dems play a long game, and they might just leave her hanging on 8 November.

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  25. @Anonymous
    Minor quibble: city #4 is Jerusalem, not Tel Aviv

    Tel Aviv shouldn’t be listed, honestly. A huge portion of the power elite (maybe a third going from billionaires lists?) is Jewish, but it’s based in New York and Hollywood, not Tel Aviv (or Jerusalem).

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    SFG.

    The agenda of that 'Anonymous' has passed you by.

    His point in saying 'Jerusalem, not Tel Aviv' was to support moving the capital of Israel to a place where it is a pure provocation, and accepted by no polities outside Israel (sure, many dangerous traitors in the USA support it).

    Would guess you know that, and are just providing cover with your foolish comment.
  26. @Anonymous

    Yeah, some people are terrified by clowns, but many of us enjoy the entertainment they provide.

    Better a clown than a demonstrable war criminal.
     

    Amazing how even the alt-right bought into this corporate media establishment characterization of Trump as a clown. The dude went to Wharton, built a $10 billion business, had a NYT all-time bestselling book, had a top-rated prime-time TV show, is credited with revitalization of NYC , has the backing of business titan billionaires, et al. Yet somehow the globalist cabal puppet masters, through their corporate media, was able to easily sell Trump as a clown. Amazing. Scary. Kind of backs up Fred's negative view of it all.

    And went bankrupt 4 times. He’s a very imperfect vessel…but the only one we have.

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    • Replies: @Stonehands
    "...And went bankrupt 4 times...."


    The perfect Skipper to navigate this bankrupt vessel through reorganization.
  27. Fred has risen!

    WTF???? Someone said that Fwed was gonna publish a good one today, and I didn’t believe it cuz I don’t believe in Resurrections, either personal or national, but he done proved me wrong. (Unless, which seems likely, he just pasted his name to someone else’s work.)

    This article is a masterpiece especially since it sez what I’m been saying for a long time and which can be summed up thusly:

    It is over…There is no solution.

    Now, before ya’ll start yapping about pessimizzzm etc., let me tell ya that the best thing for the world would be to accept the fact that another indispensable nation has bitten the dust, and the sooner it’s over, the happier many will be.There’s another indispensable nation that needs to be s***canned and soon, too, but that’s another story.

    Now, to cheer ya up, here’s a happy story for ya…

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/10/karen-kwiatkowski/no-hillary-debates/

    PS: Doesn’t it just burn ya when even a low IQ Bozo like myself can figure it all out?

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  28. @Oldeguy
    My Main Man Fred is his old marvelous self again- Thank You God.
    "American culture now drinks deeply of the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either."
    Many years ago, in the black and white TV era, I watched Bishop Fulton Sheen say : " When any civilization is healthy and vigorous, the Lower Orders ape their Betters ; when it is in decay and dying, the Betters ape the Lower Orders."
    Now that's real Conservatism "with the bark off" .
    It is simultaneously:
    1) Brutally insensitive
    2) Shocking arrogant
    3 ) Dead on the money True
    Is White Christian Civilization of such unique enduring value as to be worth sacrificing to pass on whole and entire the Heritage we were gifted at birth to our descendants as it was given to us ?
    Apparently our Rulers believe not.

    “American culture now drinks deeply of the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either.” — Fred Reed

    Many years ago, in the black and white TV era, I watched Bishop Fulton Sheen say : ” When any civilization is healthy and vigorous, the Lower Orders ape their Betters ; when it is in decay and dying, the Betters ape the Lower Orders.”

    Oldeguy, thank you for the Bishop Sheen reference. I used to watch him on TV as a child, but I was then too young to understand what he was saying

    This aping of the lower orders and their culture is abrasively apparent everywhere you look. Walk through an upper-scale high school in an upper-scale city and you know that, even in these privileged places, the “end is nigh!” The infection is universal.

    I moved the family from southern California when I delivered my son to high school and watched a coed walk in the front door dressed in high-cut gym shorts and wearing a low-cut halter top and thongs. This was after we passed the “Gothics” and every other grouped variety of social disorder representing most of the rest of the student population. What will these idle adolescents do when they grow up? Oh, I’m sorry, I guess they never do grow up.

    We now live in Mid-Atlantica. Only slightly better by a few degrees … and a sense of hopelessness about it all.

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  29. @Anonymous

    More fun in the Indispensable Nation
     
    Please don't talk like a Supremacist (Suprematists would be better, maybe).
    We all know the Indispensable Nations are two, one is Mexico, the other is you-know-which.

    Give her credit for consistency. She is always mendacious, firmly in the pockets of Wall Street, Israel, the Neocon hawks, and the arms industry
     
    Of Saudi Arabia too. And I recently read they got money also from Russia (google "Clinton Russia uranium").

    This said, you are writing terrifyingly well. There's something in this piece I don't know how to define, perhaps a... cutting sincerity, that really impressed me.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost. Once broken, the chain cannot be repaired.

    It is over. Putrefaction is irreversible, either by Ronald or Lucretia.

    The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it. Impunity, normal in Guatemala, allows corruption to go unpunished. Think sub-prime.
     
    All columnists are telling Unz readers there realities, and most of Unz readers already know them.
    One comes here everyday to rob himself the curiosity of how this small group of very sharp-witted people will reword the same. Sincerity is so rare that the articles restating and restating the same never get boresome.

    Yet there's something no-one dares to tell: that destiny is destiny, life is a cycle, and that subjection to destiny and cyclicity regard countries, cultures, civilizations as they do each of us.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost.
     
    I see most of the over 50 completely oblivious of this fact: they seem more hopeful, if not optimistic, and combatant than the young.
    I think what misdirects them is they aren't in touch with the young people. They don't read the forums and blogs where the young people comments. They haven't visited a campus for decades and have no idea what things are like now (such an episode is the subject of a most touching, veiledly autobiographic, chapter of I am Charlotte Simmons).

    This is why they hope.

    I was in the company of some 40-and-something-year-old English teachers -- all women, that goes without saying --, someone brought up the subject of the comparative of "stupid" saying she couldn't believe some students were so ignorant they thought it was possible to write "stupidest", while the rule everybody knows says it must be "more stupid".

    I tried to object to that and tell them the complete rule and how there is nothing wrong with "stupider" at all, and they were, well, shook. One or two mocked me for my ignorance (you don't know disyllables always get the "more" in front of them. The others chose to be civil and conceal their shock at my ignorance.

    ...

    A look at school, at the students and, no less, the teachers, tells us all we need to know.
    They don't even know the great things behind us.

    Mention Thomas Gray to them, to the teachers of English I mean, and see if we are still a country or not.

    So, thanks for the courage not to wear an optimistic mask as if this still were a party.

    Of Saudi Arabia too.

    Saudi is nothing but an Israeli puppet.

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  30. And an IQ measured as north of 156. Trump’s no chump.

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    • Replies: @dearieme
    "north of 156": really? "Measured"? Then why not tell us the actual number?
    , @RaceRealist88
    His IQ is nowhere near that high.
    , @Grahamsno(G64)

    And an IQ measured as north of 156
     
    You have been chumped, that IQ is an estimate based on him graduating from the Wharton MBA program.

    Guess what he never graduated from Wharton as he would like every one to believe. He graduated from Penn State in 'Anthropology' and Penn State had an exchange program with Wharton, so technically speaking he 'went to Wharton' but he implicitly lied.
  31. @Richard II
    And an IQ measured as north of 156. Trump's no chump.

    “north of 156″: really? “Measured”? Then why not tell us the actual number?

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    • Replies: @EH
    "“north of 156″: really? “Measured”? Then why not tell us the actual number?"

    You, of all people*, should know that 156 is effectively a ceiling score, the hard ceiling being 160 on all the normed tests that don't have lower ceilings (e.g. WAIS, SB). 156 means hitting hard ceilings on nearly all the subtests, and will be an underestimate of the true score. Not that I believe that Trump actually had that measured score, but I think he might well be that smart. He doesn't seem much less intelligent than GHWB's chief of staff John Sununu, who had one of the highest scores on the poorly normed but very hard Mega test for the 1 in 1,000,000 Mega society, 180IQ. I have heard that Trump's vocabulary is much richer in private. His public speaking intentionally (and intelligently) uses a 4th grade vocabulary.

    (*dearieme is a frequent commenter on Dr. James Thompson's blog on intelligence)

  32. Like Fred’s article.

    For Fred and other commentors, I recommend Paolo Bacigalupi’s short story Pump Six (I have no commercial interest).

    It is very relevant to parts of this article, made me laugh, bitterly, even though I’ve never been to NY.

    Pump Six is a big pump in a (the?) sewage processing plant in Noo Yawk of the future.

    Will say no more.

    Those interested in fights over water (by states, cities) in the central- to south-western US would also enjoy The Tamarisk Hunter.

    I have only read five or six of the stories in Pump Six and Other Stories, (in magazines I bought) two of the others were brutalist enough to make me feel bad after reading them, but can take it. Couldn’t recommend them to everyone.

    If you have a decent public library or access to a decent university library, I strongly recommend those two stories at least.

    Accidentally bought a YR novel of his second hand, a retake of Beauty and the Beast, pretty disappointing.

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  33. And an IQ measured as north of 156. Trump’s no chump.

    156 sounds like a measure number itself, why that specific?

    I believe mine is north of 217. Just guessing though.

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  34. Fred at his best

    Ah, the Donald. While he unmistakably displays various presidential qualities–he can walk up stairs by himself, and his eyes usually point in the same direction–there is indeed a certain aleatory quality to the man. God knows what he might do. …

    The Donald merely makes me nervous, while Hillary makes me want to take poison. It is the difference between an acid trip and death by sinus drainage. His truly great strength is that he is not Hillary. The election is really a contest between placeholders for conflicting interests, for different views of the world. Few would want either if there were another choice.

    and I agree, as someone just said, ‘the ship has sailed’ for America’s long term future

    But what of the next eight years? Is there really any way to equate Donald Trump with Hillary Clinton?! While he’s often a blowhard and a deliberate buffoon, (playing to America’s love of buffoonery), she is the most notorious personification of everything that is wrong with America.

    Unaccountable corruption writ large. Mass-murder and aggressive wars as a foreign policy. The bailout bitch for Goldman Sachs and Wall Street. It’s hard to imagine anyone that would be worse. Even John McCain has one redeeming quality. (He’s not Hillary).

    But just contemplating that shrill gorgon lecturing and scolding us all from the bully-pulpit, day after grueling day, year after excruciating year. That fake smile, that orgiastic gloat, that voice!

    There’s no just no comparison. Donald’s platform of ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback will buy us a few years of sanity. A few more years where the roiling and simmering hatreds of our myriad minority subsets will remain suppressed. We’ll enjoy a gasp before the great fall, [that is indeed, inevitable].

    Even if he arrests just one oligarch for their biblical-level swindles, will be something, rather than more whistle blowers like Manning being tossed down oubliettes for decades. Even if it’s just being able to see Donald’s wife representing America on the world’s diplomatic stage, vs. the gorgon hag, just that is reason enough to consider this election existential.

    So, great read. Enjoyed it, but there is no comparing these two. One represents all the horrors that America has descended to since Dubya the chimp did his Ruprecht imitation from the White House, down though Obama and now, God help us, Hillary.

    The other represents peace and cooperation with Russia and an end to the Endless WarsⓊ and border sanity and trade deal sanity and putting America first.

    That’s quite a big difference and worthy of note.

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    Priceless.

    ... end to the Endless WarsⓊ...
     
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    There’s no just no comparison. Donald’s platform of ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback will buy us a few years of sanity.
     
    If he actually said that, I'll vote for him instead of leaving it blank.
  35. @Miro23
    A good article from Fred.

    The USA is truly the Jewel in Israel's Crown. Colony USA transfers her wealth to Israel and sends her troops to fight her wars, while her Imperial administrators run the FED, Treasury, media and Congress.

    On this view, elections are a native affair, where a "President" needs to be friendly to Imperial interests (i.e. not subversive). The US could go lower but it is probably most useful to the Empire as a cash cow and source of military manpower, with Hillary being the chief collaborator and a vote for continuity.

    As Trump says “They are our greatest ally” (Israel). And people really believe things will change if he wins. They fell for the cult of personality.

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    • Replies: @dahoit
    He threw a bone to his torturers.So what?
    If he was actually Israeli centric the MSM would love him.They hate him instead.
    1 and 1 make 2.
    The cult of personality?Jesus wtf are the Clintons,or Reagan,or even JFK but cults of personality?
    , @Bill Jones
    I agree that he's likely to be bad on the Zionists- bad as Hillary?

    He is, however likely to be right on the two things that are irreversible:
    Immigration
    War with Russia.

    If Hillary wins the country has a shorter time frame than she does and she'll be dead by the end of her only term.
  36. @pyrrhus
    If you don't want war, especially WW3, better vote for Trump. But Fred is right, the problems are massive and it is increasingly implausible that they can be solved with the people and resources on hand. Not to mention the looming food and water crises, and rising populations in the 3d world which is already unable to feed itself. If the climate cools, as predicted by solar experts, things will get very desperate indeed.

    He will go to war with Iran for the Jews “our greatest ally” (his words). Whoever wins, we go to war. Whoever wins, we lose. Trump is not for us, he’s for Jewish oligarchs and his new Jewish family.

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  37. @Blosky
    "God knows what he might do."

    He might not try to start a war with Russia?

    And try to start a war with Iran for Israel. As long as our “Presidents” bow to foreign powers, nothing will change. Israel dictates American foreign policy.

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  38. @The Alarmist

    "Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk."
     
    Exactamundo! It was the Black Death (plague) of the Middle Ages that made labor so scarce that serfs could pretty much put their services up to the highest bidder, thereby weakening the nobles' hold over them and setting in motion nearly 800 year rise of the average commoner to middle class prosperity and near self-government.

    Fortunate for the elite, they have learned many of the lessons of the Romans on how to reduce the bulk of the populace back to serfdom via crushing debt and a dearth of opportunity. They might want to get global population back to half a billion or so, but they are going to start "over there." If we're lucky, they'll start before the migrant waves start in earnest.

    They might want to get global population back to half a billion or so, but they are going to start “over there.”

    A global population of two billion is closer to the critical mass necessary for scientific and technological progress. Maybe 1.5B, maybe.

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    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    Could be. I was only parroting the figure I heard some Sustainability types were bandying about. They never have the guts to tell us how they plan to lose a few billion people
  39. @Rurik
    Fred at his best

    Ah, the Donald. While he unmistakably displays various presidential qualities–he can walk up stairs by himself, and his eyes usually point in the same direction–there is indeed a certain aleatory quality to the man. God knows what he might do. ...

    The Donald merely makes me nervous, while Hillary makes me want to take poison. It is the difference between an acid trip and death by sinus drainage. His truly great strength is that he is not Hillary. The election is really a contest between placeholders for conflicting interests, for different views of the world. Few would want either if there were another choice.

     

    and I agree, as someone just said, 'the ship has sailed' for America's long term future

    But what of the next eight years? Is there really any way to equate Donald Trump with Hillary Clinton?! While he's often a blowhard and a deliberate buffoon, (playing to America's love of buffoonery), she is the most notorious personification of everything that is wrong with America.

    Unaccountable corruption writ large. Mass-murder and aggressive wars as a foreign policy. The bailout bitch for Goldman Sachs and Wall Street. It's hard to imagine anyone that would be worse. Even John McCain has one redeeming quality. (He's not Hillary).

    But just contemplating that shrill gorgon lecturing and scolding us all from the bully-pulpit, day after grueling day, year after excruciating year. That fake smile, that orgiastic gloat, that voice!

    There's no just no comparison. Donald's platform of ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback will buy us a few years of sanity. A few more years where the roiling and simmering hatreds of our myriad minority subsets will remain suppressed. We'll enjoy a gasp before the great fall, [that is indeed, inevitable].

    Even if he arrests just one oligarch for their biblical-level swindles, will be something, rather than more whistle blowers like Manning being tossed down oubliettes for decades. Even if it's just being able to see Donald's wife representing America on the world's diplomatic stage, vs. the gorgon hag, just that is reason enough to consider this election existential.

    So, great read. Enjoyed it, but there is no comparing these two. One represents all the horrors that America has descended to since Dubya the chimp did his Ruprecht imitation from the White House, down though Obama and now, God help us, Hillary.

    The other represents peace and cooperation with Russia and an end to the Endless WarsⓊ and border sanity and trade deal sanity and putting America first.

    That's quite a big difference and worthy of note.

    Priceless.

    … end to the Endless WarsⓊ…

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  40. The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote. US women are very susceptible to Cultural Marxism. First thing they gave us was Prohibition and now, if elected, Hillary. Hillary as president makes Prohibition seem like a smart idea.

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    I would not blame this entirely on women, cultural Marxism is a much bigger problem, gaining power as young people are brainwashed in school and by social media to accept their own decline and demise. This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters. None of them rocket scientists. It's in our gene pool apparently to succumb to irrational ideologies. Punishing ideologies. We are plagued by Calvinists, whether they realize that is what they are or not. Suffering is good! They live to make others suffer. Hobbes is our intellectual founder. Succeed or die. Suffering is good. For other people. People are not capable of deciding their own fate unless they are elites. And look what a great job they've done. Yet they still love themselves. No women are not the problem but they are certainly a big part of it. Many women have serious self-esteem problems and are clinically nuts. I am a woman but I would never vote for Hillary, I don't care if our leader is a woman, it makes no difference at all.
    , @annamaria
    'The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote."

    1. Would you prefer the Saudis' wisdom of keeping women as second-rate citizens?
    2. Please explain why Bush the Lesser is immeasurably better than, say, Jill Stein?
    3. Are you serious that Hilary represents women? - The same way the "black" Obama was chosen to mollify "progressives," the "womanly" Hilary is just a convenience for plutocracy. She is an androgynous politician and war criminal. No need to call her a woman.

    , @Corvinus
    "The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote."

    Fixed right, yes.

    "US women are very susceptible to Cultural Marxism"

    Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman.
  41. @John Jeremiah Smith

    They might want to get global population back to half a billion or so, but they are going to start “over there.”
     
    A global population of two billion is closer to the critical mass necessary for scientific and technological progress. Maybe 1.5B, maybe.

    Could be. I was only parroting the figure I heard some Sustainability types were bandying about. They never have the guts to tell us how they plan to lose a few billion people

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    Could be. I was only parroting the figure I heard some Sustainability types were bandying about. They never have the guts to tell us how they plan to lose a few billion people
     
    Famine. Disease. Pestilence. War. The usual 4 horses.
  42. @RaceRealist88
    As Trump says "They are our greatest ally" (Israel). And people really believe things will change if he wins. They fell for the cult of personality.

    He threw a bone to his torturers.So what?
    If he was actually Israeli centric the MSM would love him.They hate him instead.
    1 and 1 make 2.
    The cult of personality?Jesus wtf are the Clintons,or Reagan,or even JFK but cults of personality?

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    Did someone mention cults? Note the date (1933) on Nock's quip about the cult of personality in American politics.

    These foreign visitors also say that the American's interest differs from the Englishman's in being more concerned with men than with issues. They account for this by the fact that the official issues of our national campaigns are so trivial that they are really no issues at all, and that therefore the actual cleavage between our parties is not spacious. In other words, we have nothing that an Englishman would understand by an effective political Opposition. Hence whatever public interest there may be in an election must focus on the personality of the candidates.

    -Albert Jay Nock, What the American Votes for, The American Mercury, February 1933, pp. 176-182

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1933feb-00176?View=PDFPages

     

  43. Advice from the black man:

    At Black Agenda Report:

    Since Hillary is going to win don’t waste your vote, vote Stein-Baraka, so the Green party will have ballot access in all states in the future. Theory sort of works for Johnston-Weld.

    the imaginary President Trump would jail, drone or nuke after a 3AM Twitter fit are not frightening possibilities we need to take urgent action to avoid. They are bogeyman stories, make-believe, bad science fiction without the science.

    Trump’s Disintegration Means It’s Not Just Safe to Vote Green, It’s Mandatory

    http://blackagendareport.com/trump-makes-it-safe-2-vote-green

    Baraka is the son of the former poet laureate of New Jersey:

    Let us all survive, who need to, we wish each other good luck – Amiri Baraka

    Amiri Baraka – Who Will Survive America?

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  44. @SFG
    Tel Aviv shouldn't be listed, honestly. A huge portion of the power elite (maybe a third going from billionaires lists?) is Jewish, but it's based in New York and Hollywood, not Tel Aviv (or Jerusalem).

    SFG.

    The agenda of that ‘Anonymous’ has passed you by.

    His point in saying ‘Jerusalem, not Tel Aviv’ was to support moving the capital of Israel to a place where it is a pure provocation, and accepted by no polities outside Israel (sure, many dangerous traitors in the USA support it).

    Would guess you know that, and are just providing cover with your foolish comment.

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    No, I honestly missed that. I never got that worked up over that issue.
  45. @dahoit
    He threw a bone to his torturers.So what?
    If he was actually Israeli centric the MSM would love him.They hate him instead.
    1 and 1 make 2.
    The cult of personality?Jesus wtf are the Clintons,or Reagan,or even JFK but cults of personality?

    Did someone mention cults? Note the date (1933) on Nock’s quip about the cult of personality in American politics.

    These foreign visitors also say that the American’s interest differs from the Englishman’s in being more concerned with men than with issues. They account for this by the fact that the official issues of our national campaigns are so trivial that they are really no issues at all, and that therefore the actual cleavage between our parties is not spacious. In other words, we have nothing that an Englishman would understand by an effective political Opposition. Hence whatever public interest there may be in an election must focus on the personality of the candidates.

    -Albert Jay Nock, What the American Votes for, The American Mercury, February 1933, pp. 176-182

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1933feb-00176?View=PDFPages

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    For anyone who is interested, a good read, Our Enemy the State- E.J. Nock.
  46. @Anonymous

    More fun in the Indispensable Nation
     
    Please don't talk like a Supremacist (Suprematists would be better, maybe).
    We all know the Indispensable Nations are two, one is Mexico, the other is you-know-which.

    Give her credit for consistency. She is always mendacious, firmly in the pockets of Wall Street, Israel, the Neocon hawks, and the arms industry
     
    Of Saudi Arabia too. And I recently read they got money also from Russia (google "Clinton Russia uranium").

    This said, you are writing terrifyingly well. There's something in this piece I don't know how to define, perhaps a... cutting sincerity, that really impressed me.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost. Once broken, the chain cannot be repaired.

    It is over. Putrefaction is irreversible, either by Ronald or Lucretia.

    The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it. Impunity, normal in Guatemala, allows corruption to go unpunished. Think sub-prime.
     
    All columnists are telling Unz readers there realities, and most of Unz readers already know them.
    One comes here everyday to rob himself the curiosity of how this small group of very sharp-witted people will reword the same. Sincerity is so rare that the articles restating and restating the same never get boresome.

    Yet there's something no-one dares to tell: that destiny is destiny, life is a cycle, and that subjection to destiny and cyclicity regard countries, cultures, civilizations as they do each of us.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost.
     
    I see most of the over 50 completely oblivious of this fact: they seem more hopeful, if not optimistic, and combatant than the young.
    I think what misdirects them is they aren't in touch with the young people. They don't read the forums and blogs where the young people comments. They haven't visited a campus for decades and have no idea what things are like now (such an episode is the subject of a most touching, veiledly autobiographic, chapter of I am Charlotte Simmons).

    This is why they hope.

    I was in the company of some 40-and-something-year-old English teachers -- all women, that goes without saying --, someone brought up the subject of the comparative of "stupid" saying she couldn't believe some students were so ignorant they thought it was possible to write "stupidest", while the rule everybody knows says it must be "more stupid".

    I tried to object to that and tell them the complete rule and how there is nothing wrong with "stupider" at all, and they were, well, shook. One or two mocked me for my ignorance (you don't know disyllables always get the "more" in front of them. The others chose to be civil and conceal their shock at my ignorance.

    ...

    A look at school, at the students and, no less, the teachers, tells us all we need to know.
    They don't even know the great things behind us.

    Mention Thomas Gray to them, to the teachers of English I mean, and see if we are still a country or not.

    So, thanks for the courage not to wear an optimistic mask as if this still were a party.

    Lucretia Borgia had bad press – she has been slandered, largely by the 19th Century French Romantics – notably Victor Hugo – who forever biased our perception of a very complex character. Certainly, to compare her with the ghoulish Hillary Clinton is deeply offensive to students of the medieval papacy.

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  47. @John Jeremiah Smith
    Gee, Fred, why so glum? Turn that frown upside down.

    Hillary will be elected. The borders will be opened. The rich will get richer faster than ever, and soon there will be no wealth that is not held by the 1 percent. We will enter an interregnum period, where revolt will simmer and bubble, but the exigencies of everyday life for the 99 percent will be so demanding that all their effort must turn to staying alive -- as the 1 percent intend.

    There will be no revolt. The 1 percent will maintain separation, and everyday life for the 99% will merge into a haze of misery and hunger. And the thousand-year reich will come to pass -- just not as many have envisioned it.

    “Hillary be be elected”

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn’t relish it they wouldn’t say it.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years, and pro Jazz performer.

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    “Hillary be be elected”
     
    I wrote "Hillary will be elected." Explain to me how a 40-year Mensa member can't fucking cut-and-paste as good as a six-year old.

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn’t relish it they wouldn’t say it.
     
    I simply detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can't spell, can't write, can't express a concept in declarative sentences. Can't parse a statement and accurately extract content, can't do anything but kvetch like a little Jew-bitch.
  48. @Otto the P
    Nice screed. Makes me glad that--I'm Fred's age--the curtain will fall soon (gently, I hope). Still, there's fun to be had, even in an apocalypse. Thus: lots of gun and ammo, lots deep amusement at the folly-dance of the elite, much joy to be got from watching media slit its own throat and bugaloo in the blood spew, much quiver from looking at the once-great cities and thinking "Soon gone forever." Also: sleep, a good woman, lots of bourbon. It ain't the smell of victory, but it beats suicide.

    Good comment, look on the sunny side of life! I’m 66, it has it’s advantages. I often tell my husband our ravings won’t change anything, this all proceeds without our agreement, approval. And it is much bigger than us. Worldwide changes are happening that will change everything, we just have to manage our own affairs keeping the ongoing gotterdamerung in mind. Enjoy what’s left to enjoy, from a distance. Big cities, cesspools, not centers of civilization, diversity, a huge disappointment, elites, always a problem, and the mainstream media, avoid, avoid. We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care.

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    Enjoy what’s left to enjoy, from a distance. We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care.
     
    Yeah, I'm kinda getting that way myself. I've got two kids living with me, rent-free. Degreed engineers, both of 'em. A decorated Iraq veteran and his wife. Thirty years old, no kids. No drive, no ambition, no fire in the belly. No jobs, either -- not for white people.
    , @Oldeguy
    "We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care. "
    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.
    , @Miro23

    "We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care."
     
    Well, future generations won't thank you for that. Most people feel an obligation to future generations, if only in memory of what their own parents did for them.
    , @MBlanc46
    That's a very sane attitude. I shall endeavor to inculcate it in myself. I'm sure that it will help keep my blood pressure down. But doing so will be a bit of a betrayal of my younger self, who, being admitted to the great institutions of Western culture, was determined to play at least a small part in bringing that culture to even greater heights. Knowing that I'll likely be dead by the time the barbarians have completely breached the gates doesn't lessen the sting of my failure to do so.
  49. Lucretia Borgia never harmed anyone in her entire life. She and a sister in law did physically intervene in an attempt to save the life of a man one of her brothers killed

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  50. @TheBoom
    The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote. US women are very susceptible to Cultural Marxism. First thing they gave us was Prohibition and now, if elected, Hillary. Hillary as president makes Prohibition seem like a smart idea.

    I would not blame this entirely on women, cultural Marxism is a much bigger problem, gaining power as young people are brainwashed in school and by social media to accept their own decline and demise. This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters. None of them rocket scientists. It’s in our gene pool apparently to succumb to irrational ideologies. Punishing ideologies. We are plagued by Calvinists, whether they realize that is what they are or not. Suffering is good! They live to make others suffer. Hobbes is our intellectual founder. Succeed or die. Suffering is good. For other people. People are not capable of deciding their own fate unless they are elites. And look what a great job they’ve done. Yet they still love themselves. No women are not the problem but they are certainly a big part of it. Many women have serious self-esteem problems and are clinically nuts. I am a woman but I would never vote for Hillary, I don’t care if our leader is a woman, it makes no difference at all.

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    No women are not the problem but they are certainly a big part of it.
     
    This attitude amongst citizens of a theoretically free democracy has always puzzled me. Since when are women responsible for more problems of any given civilization than are men? Ain't happened yet. Different problems, sure, but more? or worse? Oh, hell no. Every recent problem caused by the, um, gullibility and/or weaknesses of women, can be fixed quickly, easily, and effectively with rational policies and enforcement. As can the problems created by men, albeit not as easily, imo.
    , @another fred
    Not to blame things on women, but as a group (or class or whatever collective noun might be acceptable these days) they do vote differently. JFK, Clinton, Obama - all depended on women voting differently from men to get elected.

    Just an observation. I seriously do not blame women, what is happening is very deeply rooted in our nature and, IMO, inescapable.

    , @TheBoom
    I agree that the US has had a tradition of religious cults but the problem isn't confined to the US. Cultural Marxism has taken hold in many Western white countries and women are often, from opinion polls I've seen, more in alignment with it than are men.

    But really it is feminism more than the average woman that provides the shock troops for Cultural Marxism. Almost any cause that harms the traditions of the country and leads to ethnic and cultural cleansing of the country has feminists at the forefront. You can really see this in the open borders migrant mess. Feminists whine about rape culture and the patriarchy then are at the forefront of bringing in the most rapey and patriarchal group of men on the planet: Muslims. Then, if that wasn't bad enough, they are at the forefront of covering up Muslims' crimes against women. Pure nuts.
  51. @The Alarmist
    Could be. I was only parroting the figure I heard some Sustainability types were bandying about. They never have the guts to tell us how they plan to lose a few billion people

    Could be. I was only parroting the figure I heard some Sustainability types were bandying about. They never have the guts to tell us how they plan to lose a few billion people

    Famine. Disease. Pestilence. War. The usual 4 horses.

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    Like a comedian said, “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”

    Our next President, kneeling

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    Actually, George was more of a prophet/philosopher than a comedian, and dat ain't no joke!
  53. @cane toad
    I would not blame this entirely on women, cultural Marxism is a much bigger problem, gaining power as young people are brainwashed in school and by social media to accept their own decline and demise. This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters. None of them rocket scientists. It's in our gene pool apparently to succumb to irrational ideologies. Punishing ideologies. We are plagued by Calvinists, whether they realize that is what they are or not. Suffering is good! They live to make others suffer. Hobbes is our intellectual founder. Succeed or die. Suffering is good. For other people. People are not capable of deciding their own fate unless they are elites. And look what a great job they've done. Yet they still love themselves. No women are not the problem but they are certainly a big part of it. Many women have serious self-esteem problems and are clinically nuts. I am a woman but I would never vote for Hillary, I don't care if our leader is a woman, it makes no difference at all.

    No women are not the problem but they are certainly a big part of it.

    This attitude amongst citizens of a theoretically free democracy has always puzzled me. Since when are women responsible for more problems of any given civilization than are men? Ain’t happened yet. Different problems, sure, but more? or worse? Oh, hell no. Every recent problem caused by the, um, gullibility and/or weaknesses of women, can be fixed quickly, easily, and effectively with rational policies and enforcement. As can the problems created by men, albeit not as easily, imo.

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    Hey Huckleberry... You live in a feminized homosexual paradise- without precedent.

    I don't think as colorful character as John Jeremiah Smith would subscribe to your glib rationalizations of these screeching liberal harridans as the foundation for any sort of normal society.
  54. @cane toad
    Good comment, look on the sunny side of life! I'm 66, it has it's advantages. I often tell my husband our ravings won't change anything, this all proceeds without our agreement, approval. And it is much bigger than us. Worldwide changes are happening that will change everything, we just have to manage our own affairs keeping the ongoing gotterdamerung in mind. Enjoy what's left to enjoy, from a distance. Big cities, cesspools, not centers of civilization, diversity, a huge disappointment, elites, always a problem, and the mainstream media, avoid, avoid. We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care.

    Enjoy what’s left to enjoy, from a distance. We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care.

    Yeah, I’m kinda getting that way myself. I’ve got two kids living with me, rent-free. Degreed engineers, both of ‘em. A decorated Iraq veteran and his wife. Thirty years old, no kids. No drive, no ambition, no fire in the belly. No jobs, either — not for white people.

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  55. @Authenticjazzman
    "Hillary be be elected"

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn't relish it they wouldn't say it.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years, and pro Jazz performer.

    “Hillary be be elected”

    I wrote “Hillary will be elected.” Explain to me how a 40-year Mensa member can’t fucking cut-and-paste as good as a six-year old.

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn’t relish it they wouldn’t say it.

    I simply detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences. Can’t parse a statement and accurately extract content, can’t do anything but kvetch like a little Jew-bitch.

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    I too detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences, don't have a sense of humor, run around with their noses in the air bragging about their probably imagined sappy "accomplishments," initiate personal attacks on other commenters, and can't appreciate a little sarcasm and wit (although they're likely be oblivious to it).

    That's fer starters...!
    , @another fred

    I simply detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences. Can’t parse a statement and accurately extract content, can’t do anything but kvetch like a little Jew-bitch.
     
    You left out "can't appreciate sarcasm." ;-)
    , @Bill Jones
    What sort of moron equates intelligence with literacy?
    , @authenticjazzman
    [Improve your behavior or more of your comments may get trashed:
    http://www.unz.com/announcement/over-one-million-comments-but-some-badly-behaving-commenters/ ]


    Okay how can I put this in simplistic terms so that you, low IQ being that you are, can understand it :

    "Spelling", syntax "declarative sentences" "parsing statements" this is all fucking subjective, and based upon AGREEMENTS and there are no " natural" laws, no "right and wrong" laws defining these language elements as such.

    You are operating under the false principle that there are "right and wrong" ways to communicate , and this it exactly what all of the BS artist "Experts" "Professors" have brainwashed you into
    believing, and due to your low intelligence you fucking believe this crap.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member since 1973, and pro jazz performer.
  56. Few would want either if there were another choice.

    He may be a little loopy, but a vote for Gary Johnson could throw the whole election into the House of Representatives. That might make for an interesting outcome which would almost certainly not be Hillary.

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    Gary Johnson a "little loopy?" I'd say closer to certifiable.
  57. @Rurik
    Fred at his best

    Ah, the Donald. While he unmistakably displays various presidential qualities–he can walk up stairs by himself, and his eyes usually point in the same direction–there is indeed a certain aleatory quality to the man. God knows what he might do. ...

    The Donald merely makes me nervous, while Hillary makes me want to take poison. It is the difference between an acid trip and death by sinus drainage. His truly great strength is that he is not Hillary. The election is really a contest between placeholders for conflicting interests, for different views of the world. Few would want either if there were another choice.

     

    and I agree, as someone just said, 'the ship has sailed' for America's long term future

    But what of the next eight years? Is there really any way to equate Donald Trump with Hillary Clinton?! While he's often a blowhard and a deliberate buffoon, (playing to America's love of buffoonery), she is the most notorious personification of everything that is wrong with America.

    Unaccountable corruption writ large. Mass-murder and aggressive wars as a foreign policy. The bailout bitch for Goldman Sachs and Wall Street. It's hard to imagine anyone that would be worse. Even John McCain has one redeeming quality. (He's not Hillary).

    But just contemplating that shrill gorgon lecturing and scolding us all from the bully-pulpit, day after grueling day, year after excruciating year. That fake smile, that orgiastic gloat, that voice!

    There's no just no comparison. Donald's platform of ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback will buy us a few years of sanity. A few more years where the roiling and simmering hatreds of our myriad minority subsets will remain suppressed. We'll enjoy a gasp before the great fall, [that is indeed, inevitable].

    Even if he arrests just one oligarch for their biblical-level swindles, will be something, rather than more whistle blowers like Manning being tossed down oubliettes for decades. Even if it's just being able to see Donald's wife representing America on the world's diplomatic stage, vs. the gorgon hag, just that is reason enough to consider this election existential.

    So, great read. Enjoyed it, but there is no comparing these two. One represents all the horrors that America has descended to since Dubya the chimp did his Ruprecht imitation from the White House, down though Obama and now, God help us, Hillary.

    The other represents peace and cooperation with Russia and an end to the Endless WarsⓊ and border sanity and trade deal sanity and putting America first.

    That's quite a big difference and worthy of note.

    There’s no just no comparison. Donald’s platform of ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback will buy us a few years of sanity.

    If he actually said that, I’ll vote for him instead of leaving it blank.

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    If he actually said that
     
    perhaps not in those exact words, but that's the general thrust

    send the 'bad hombres' packing

    close down Muslim immigration until we know what's what

    build a wall


    Donald Trump added another twist to his already unconventional campaign for the presidency on Monday: he became the first mainstream candidate to ever suggest that the United States withdraw from NATO.
     
    http://fortune.com/2016/03/22/donald-trump-nato/

    and considering the alternative...

    more wars and even more abject, sniveling fealty to Bibi and Israel (Jesus Christ if that's even possible!)

    completely open borders on the Western hemisphere. One big EU type of Third World shithole. Puerto Rico writ large.

    war with Russia

    war with Iran

    war with Lebanon, etc...

    treasonous trade deals as far as the eye can see

    Goldman Sachs firmly entrenched at the Fed / US Treasury

    double the national debt in four years instead of eight

    no more first or second amendments

    NDAA on acid

    a "Justice' Dept. that will hunt all extremists, both foreign, and domestic

    an Orwellian nightmare permanently darkening the firmament of all non-politically correct crime-thoughts from this event horizon forward

  58. @cane toad
    Good comment, look on the sunny side of life! I'm 66, it has it's advantages. I often tell my husband our ravings won't change anything, this all proceeds without our agreement, approval. And it is much bigger than us. Worldwide changes are happening that will change everything, we just have to manage our own affairs keeping the ongoing gotterdamerung in mind. Enjoy what's left to enjoy, from a distance. Big cities, cesspools, not centers of civilization, diversity, a huge disappointment, elites, always a problem, and the mainstream media, avoid, avoid. We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care.

    “We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care. ”
    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.

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    Yeah, the comment was pretty good up until that sentence, and your eval is spot on.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.
     
    Bullshit. You and I both know who did it, and it for damn sure wasn't the Boomer generation -- a generation that generated more real productivity than the 1% ever dreamed was possible. And now they want more -- which they're not going to get from the brats they "educated" in the cesspools of American public schools.
    , @Vladtero
    "They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did."

    Got a mouse in your pocket? Please speak for yourself. Although the sobrique "baby boomer" has been thrust upon me because of my 1954 birthdate I have not blown anything. I have worked my ass off, played by the rules, and for the most part, with only 2 Republican exceptions, voted Libertarian since 1976.

    If you want to take the blame for the mess this country is in please go right ahead but don't, because of my age or any other random affiliations, include me.

    By the way, I will make another Republican exception in a couple weeks when I and many other proud Libertarians will vote Trump.
  59. @John Jeremiah Smith

    As far as how goes, the bio weapons will do it.
     
    Unlikely. The bioweapons are unstable beyond one life cycle.

    Which is not really the issue. Those who would release the bioweapons stand to lose more than they could gain. Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.

    Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.

    The bulk of the worker population will be obsolete in our lifetime.

    Unprecedented times.

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    The bulk of the worker population will be obsolete in our lifetime.

    Unprecedented times.
     
    Uh-huh. Ain't happened yet, and ain't likely to happen. That's 1% talk.
  60. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The United States has been remarkably protected for decades.

    I have to go with centuries against decades. Last time US was “invaded” was in 1812. Geography was extremely kind to the US. That is until the procurement of ICBMs. And even then, the enemy was a rational player. Actually, way more rational than the US.

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  61. @John Jeremiah Smith

    There’s no just no comparison. Donald’s platform of ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback will buy us a few years of sanity.
     
    If he actually said that, I'll vote for him instead of leaving it blank.

    If he actually said that

    perhaps not in those exact words, but that’s the general thrust

    send the ‘bad hombres’ packing

    close down Muslim immigration until we know what’s what

    build a wall

    Donald Trump added another twist to his already unconventional campaign for the presidency on Monday: he became the first mainstream candidate to ever suggest that the United States withdraw from NATO.

    http://fortune.com/2016/03/22/donald-trump-nato/

    and considering the alternative…

    more wars and even more abject, sniveling fealty to Bibi and Israel (Jesus Christ if that’s even possible!)

    completely open borders on the Western hemisphere. One big EU type of Third World shithole. Puerto Rico writ large.

    war with Russia

    war with Iran

    war with Lebanon, etc…

    treasonous trade deals as far as the eye can see

    Goldman Sachs firmly entrenched at the Fed / US Treasury

    double the national debt in four years instead of eight

    no more first or second amendments

    NDAA on acid

    a “Justice’ Dept. that will hunt all extremists, both foreign, and domestic

    an Orwellian nightmare permanently darkening the firmament of all non-politically correct crime-thoughts from this event horizon forward

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    If he actually said that
     
    perhaps not in those exact words, but that’s the general thrust
     
    Ahhh, I see. He did NOT say that. He did NOT say anything remotely like "ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback".

    IOW, all the really good things that people attribute to, or hope that Donald Trump would do, he has never actually said he would do. Furthermore, the likelihood that Congress would provide legislation that would allow Trump to do what you THINK he would do, has zero probability. Frankly, I doubt he would even accomplish fining and jailing the employers of illegal aliens. Put his best-buds in jail? Oh, hell no.

    Cigar smoke and rich-guy talk is all it is.
  62. @John Jeremiah Smith

    “Hillary be be elected”
     
    I wrote "Hillary will be elected." Explain to me how a 40-year Mensa member can't fucking cut-and-paste as good as a six-year old.

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn’t relish it they wouldn’t say it.
     
    I simply detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can't spell, can't write, can't express a concept in declarative sentences. Can't parse a statement and accurately extract content, can't do anything but kvetch like a little Jew-bitch.

    I too detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences, don’t have a sense of humor, run around with their noses in the air bragging about their probably imagined sappy “accomplishments,” initiate personal attacks on other commenters, and can’t appreciate a little sarcasm and wit (although they’re likely be oblivious to it).

    That’s fer starters…!

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    I too detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences
     
    I went to a Mensa meeting. Once.
    , @another fred

    and can’t appreciate a little sarcasm
     
    Whoops! I see jacques covered that angle. Sorry for piling on.

    /15 yards, unnecessary roughness.

  63. @Anonymous
    Like a comedian said, “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”

    Our next President, kneeling

    Actually, George was more of a prophet/philosopher than a comedian, and dat ain’t no joke!

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  64. @cane toad
    Good comment, look on the sunny side of life! I'm 66, it has it's advantages. I often tell my husband our ravings won't change anything, this all proceeds without our agreement, approval. And it is much bigger than us. Worldwide changes are happening that will change everything, we just have to manage our own affairs keeping the ongoing gotterdamerung in mind. Enjoy what's left to enjoy, from a distance. Big cities, cesspools, not centers of civilization, diversity, a huge disappointment, elites, always a problem, and the mainstream media, avoid, avoid. We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care.

    “We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care.”

    Well, future generations won’t thank you for that. Most people feel an obligation to future generations, if only in memory of what their own parents did for them.

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  65. @Oldeguy
    "We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care. "
    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.

    Yeah, the comment was pretty good up until that sentence, and your eval is spot on.

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  66. ” This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters”

    Somehow they wrote the Constitution so they couldn’t have been all that bad.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    ” This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters”

    Somehow they wrote the Constitution so they couldn’t have been all that bad.
     

     
    Just you wait until BLM finds out that Madison and Jefferson, both of 'em white slaveholders, wrote dat dere racist Constitution an' uppity Dayclair-rashun.
  67. @WorkingClass
    You're right Fred. It's over for the Republic. It's over for American society. It's been over for awhile. And now it's over for the Empire. Post imperial America will not be anything like post war America. It will be a horrible mess. You can take that as justification for your own nihilism. But your proselytizing is in poor taste. Men of good will work for the good when they are winning and when they are losing. Electing Trump will not prevent the crash. Nothing can prevent the crash. But electing Trump, whether he is allowed to take office or not, is a step in the right direction.

    “Men of good will work for the good when they are winning and when they are losing.”

    Very well said sir. Very well indeed. Our Republic (what is left of it) needs so many more good folk like you.

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  68. Channeling a little bit of George Carlin here as are many of the posters. Obviously you hit the sweet spot for the cynical, we’re doomed, just sit and watch, I told you so crowd. Sure things look grim, but when don’t they. All that needs to be done is to make the elites feel the pain. That’s the surefire remedy that always works.

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  69. @mobi

    Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.
     
    The bulk of the worker population will be obsolete in our lifetime.

    Unprecedented times.

    The bulk of the worker population will be obsolete in our lifetime.

    Unprecedented times.

    Uh-huh. Ain’t happened yet, and ain’t likely to happen. That’s 1% talk.

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  70. @Oldeguy
    "We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care. "
    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.

    They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.

    Bullshit. You and I both know who did it, and it for damn sure wasn’t the Boomer generation — a generation that generated more real productivity than the 1% ever dreamed was possible. And now they want more — which they’re not going to get from the brats they “educated” in the cesspools of American public schools.

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  71. @TheBoom
    The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote. US women are very susceptible to Cultural Marxism. First thing they gave us was Prohibition and now, if elected, Hillary. Hillary as president makes Prohibition seem like a smart idea.

    ‘The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote.”

    1. Would you prefer the Saudis’ wisdom of keeping women as second-rate citizens?
    2. Please explain why Bush the Lesser is immeasurably better than, say, Jill Stein?
    3. Are you serious that Hilary represents women? – The same way the “black” Obama was chosen to mollify “progressives,” the “womanly” Hilary is just a convenience for plutocracy. She is an androgynous politician and war criminal. No need to call her a woman.

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    • Replies: @Reactionary Utopian

    The same way the “black” Obama was chosen to mollify “progressives,” the “womanly” Hilary is just a convenience for plutocracy. She is an androgynous politician and war criminal. No need to call her a woman.
     
    Annamaria has said a mouthful here, very neatly. I've certainly been thinking of the pushing of Hillary as a "first woman president" as ludicrous, because the murderous and desperately corrupt thug has none of the characteristic features of a woman. She's a female impersonator. But what I didn't see until now was that very apt analogy: "Hillary" is to "woman" as "Obama" is to "black." Neither one qualifies. Both are marketing contrivances.
  72. @Rurik

    If he actually said that
     
    perhaps not in those exact words, but that's the general thrust

    send the 'bad hombres' packing

    close down Muslim immigration until we know what's what

    build a wall


    Donald Trump added another twist to his already unconventional campaign for the presidency on Monday: he became the first mainstream candidate to ever suggest that the United States withdraw from NATO.
     
    http://fortune.com/2016/03/22/donald-trump-nato/

    and considering the alternative...

    more wars and even more abject, sniveling fealty to Bibi and Israel (Jesus Christ if that's even possible!)

    completely open borders on the Western hemisphere. One big EU type of Third World shithole. Puerto Rico writ large.

    war with Russia

    war with Iran

    war with Lebanon, etc...

    treasonous trade deals as far as the eye can see

    Goldman Sachs firmly entrenched at the Fed / US Treasury

    double the national debt in four years instead of eight

    no more first or second amendments

    NDAA on acid

    a "Justice' Dept. that will hunt all extremists, both foreign, and domestic

    an Orwellian nightmare permanently darkening the firmament of all non-politically correct crime-thoughts from this event horizon forward

    If he actually said that

    perhaps not in those exact words, but that’s the general thrust

    Ahhh, I see. He did NOT say that. He did NOT say anything remotely like “ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback”.

    IOW, all the really good things that people attribute to, or hope that Donald Trump would do, he has never actually said he would do. Furthermore, the likelihood that Congress would provide legislation that would allow Trump to do what you THINK he would do, has zero probability. Frankly, I doubt he would even accomplish fining and jailing the employers of illegal aliens. Put his best-buds in jail? Oh, hell no.

    Cigar smoke and rich-guy talk is all it is.

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    He did NOT say anything remotely like “ending NATO
     
    from the link I posted:

    In an interview with The Washington Post, the Republican frontrunner chided the North Atlantic Treaty Organization or NATO for its expense. He said the U.S. might need to reduce its involvement in NATO in coming years, a move that would flout Washington’s long-standing support for the 28-member military alliance. “We certainly can’t afford to do this anymore,” Trump said. “NATO is costing us a fortune, and yes, we’re protecting Europe with NATO, but we’re spending a lot of money.”

    That stance is indicative of the candidate’s non-interventionist approach to foreign policy matters. He said the United States should not be focused on nation-building overseas; money should be spent domestically instead. “I just think we have to rebuild our country,” he said.

    and if he's going to make nice with Putin, then what is there to protect Europe from?

    answer, immigrants

    who's going to do that? Hillary?


    putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback”.
     
    Jesus, what has been his whole mantra from the day he captured the nations attention?

    it's been building that wall and sending them home!

    maybe it is all bluster, for sure, but then when you see how hysterical the elites are, perhaps it isn't.

    but more to the point is the alternative!!!!

  73. @Miro23

    " This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters"
     
    Somehow they wrote the Constitution so they couldn't have been all that bad.

    ” This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters”

    Somehow they wrote the Constitution so they couldn’t have been all that bad.

    Just you wait until BLM finds out that Madison and Jefferson, both of ‘em white slaveholders, wrote dat dere racist Constitution an’ uppity Dayclair-rashun.

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  74. @jacques sheete
    I too detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences, don't have a sense of humor, run around with their noses in the air bragging about their probably imagined sappy "accomplishments," initiate personal attacks on other commenters, and can't appreciate a little sarcasm and wit (although they're likely be oblivious to it).

    That's fer starters...!

    I too detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences

    I went to a Mensa meeting. Once.

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  75. @John Jeremiah Smith


    If he actually said that
     
    perhaps not in those exact words, but that’s the general thrust
     
    Ahhh, I see. He did NOT say that. He did NOT say anything remotely like "ending NATO and bringing our troops home and putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback".

    IOW, all the really good things that people attribute to, or hope that Donald Trump would do, he has never actually said he would do. Furthermore, the likelihood that Congress would provide legislation that would allow Trump to do what you THINK he would do, has zero probability. Frankly, I doubt he would even accomplish fining and jailing the employers of illegal aliens. Put his best-buds in jail? Oh, hell no.

    Cigar smoke and rich-guy talk is all it is.

    He did NOT say anything remotely like “ending NATO

    from the link I posted:

    In an interview with The Washington Post, the Republican frontrunner chided the North Atlantic Treaty Organization or NATO for its expense. He said the U.S. might need to reduce its involvement in NATO in coming years, a move that would flout Washington’s long-standing support for the 28-member military alliance. “We certainly can’t afford to do this anymore,” Trump said. “NATO is costing us a fortune, and yes, we’re protecting Europe with NATO, but we’re spending a lot of money.”

    That stance is indicative of the candidate’s non-interventionist approach to foreign policy matters. He said the United States should not be focused on nation-building overseas; money should be spent domestically instead. “I just think we have to rebuild our country,” he said.

    and if he’s going to make nice with Putin, then what is there to protect Europe from?

    answer, immigrants

    who’s going to do that? Hillary?

    putting them on the border and repeating Operation Wetback”.

    Jesus, what has been his whole mantra from the day he captured the nations attention?

    it’s been building that wall and sending them home!

    maybe it is all bluster, for sure, but then when you see how hysterical the elites are, perhaps it isn’t.

    but more to the point is the alternative!!!!

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  76. With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.

    With whatever respect may be due, speak for yourself. Collective generational guilt — or credit, for that matter — does not exist. Individual people do things.

    Who knows what you mean by “the Family Heritage?” I’m 62 years old; I’ve read and loved the literature of my language; I understand physics and can do calculus; I play the violin, and I’ve taught some of those things to others who wanted to learn them. I’ve loved a woman and raised children with her. “Eternal shame?” If I’m to know it, you’ll have to explain why.

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    • Agree: John Jeremiah Smith
    • Replies: @Miro23
    Explanation: When the US came up with the Iraq WMD story you accepted it. When the US killed 100.000's Iraqi civilians "by mistake" you accepted it, when the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth risked their careers to bring you the government lies about 9/11 you rejected them . Please take your physics, calculus and violin and clear off.
    , @Oldeguy
    "Speak for yourself"
    As an anonymous commentator, whom else could I possibly be speaking for ?
    Your list of accomplishments are all praiseworthy and enviable ( never having mastered a musical instrument is one of my many regrets ), but I do note that they are all individual; quite possibly you have a personal history of involvement in community affairs that you opted not to mention, so quite possibly what I am about to say doesn't apply to you personally.
    What I meant by Family Heritage was the huge benefit of simply being born in the United States; a vast array of opportunity, a huge infrastructure for self development, and 25 centuries of Western Civilization that I personally did not create but was uniquely positioned to reap the benefits thereof.
    An American is supposedly someone born on third base who thus believes himself to be a major league ball player.
    Perhaps the richness of all that provided the seeds of the downfall- with individual opportunity so tempting, abundant, and time and energy consuming, public affairs could be left to those universal objects of contempt, "the politicians".
    Hell, we had far better things to do with our lives, so we did them.
    Does collective guilt exist ? Maybe not, but collective consequence most certainly does.
  77. @annamaria
    'The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote."

    1. Would you prefer the Saudis' wisdom of keeping women as second-rate citizens?
    2. Please explain why Bush the Lesser is immeasurably better than, say, Jill Stein?
    3. Are you serious that Hilary represents women? - The same way the "black" Obama was chosen to mollify "progressives," the "womanly" Hilary is just a convenience for plutocracy. She is an androgynous politician and war criminal. No need to call her a woman.

    The same way the “black” Obama was chosen to mollify “progressives,” the “womanly” Hilary is just a convenience for plutocracy. She is an androgynous politician and war criminal. No need to call her a woman.

    Annamaria has said a mouthful here, very neatly. I’ve certainly been thinking of the pushing of Hillary as a “first woman president” as ludicrous, because the murderous and desperately corrupt thug has none of the characteristic features of a woman. She’s a female impersonator. But what I didn’t see until now was that very apt analogy: “Hillary” is to “woman” as “Obama” is to “black.” Neither one qualifies. Both are marketing contrivances.

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    • Replies: @Stonehands
    "...But what I didn’t see until now was that very apt analogy: “Hillary” is to “woman” as “Obama” is to “black.” Neither one qualifies. Both are marketing contrivances..."

    What a crock of BS... 95% of blacks voted for Obama...because WHY?

    And if Clinton is elected it will be on a blizzard of emotional snowflake women and a vaginafied cohort of pseudo- men.
  78. I believe America’s biggest problem is that it has simply become too big for its own good. Not just in terms of population size, but also in terms of having a huge spectrum of wildly differing interests among the general populace.

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    Not just in terms of population size, but also in terms of having a huge spectrum of wildly differing interests among the general populace
     
    It is called a failure to become a real nation. Fred writes about it in his piece here:

    In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together
     
    In some sense, US is a follower of the Soviet 1977 Constitution (aka Brezhnev Constitution) which proclaimed such new "historic entity" as Soviet people. Yet, as historic lesson showed, Russians were Russians still and Azeris and Georgians didn't stop being Azeris and Georgians despite being called Soviets. Multicultural states do not live long (USSR anyone?) and here in US we have a case of demolition of the last unifying, however imperceptible by very many, foundation of European culture. US is de-Europeanizing with catastrophic speed. But then again, (Western) Europe stopped being Europe a while ago itself. Nations are not built on the bases of political or ideological creed, US is no exception. US Republic could exist only within white European cultural framework--it is now demolished. As Fred succinctly put it:

    American culture now drinks deeply from the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either.
     
    And culture here means not just "arts", long ago degenerate, but what it really means: values and behavioral matrices which derive from them. What can possibly be derived from ghetto than the other, even worse, one?
  79. @SFG
    And went bankrupt 4 times. He's a very imperfect vessel...but the only one we have.

    “…And went bankrupt 4 times….”

    The perfect Skipper to navigate this bankrupt vessel through reorganization.

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    @Pierrej
    I believe America's biggest problem is that it has simply become too big for its own good. Not just in terms of population size, but also in terms of having a huge spectrum of wildly differing interests among the general populace.

    Not just in terms of population size, but also in terms of having a huge spectrum of wildly differing interests among the general populace

    It is called a failure to become a real nation. Fred writes about it in his piece here:

    In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together

    In some sense, US is a follower of the Soviet 1977 Constitution (aka Brezhnev Constitution) which proclaimed such new “historic entity” as Soviet people. Yet, as historic lesson showed, Russians were Russians still and Azeris and Georgians didn’t stop being Azeris and Georgians despite being called Soviets. Multicultural states do not live long (USSR anyone?) and here in US we have a case of demolition of the last unifying, however imperceptible by very many, foundation of European culture. US is de-Europeanizing with catastrophic speed. But then again, (Western) Europe stopped being Europe a while ago itself. Nations are not built on the bases of political or ideological creed, US is no exception. US Republic could exist only within white European cultural framework–it is now demolished. As Fred succinctly put it:

    American culture now drinks deeply from the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either.

    And culture here means not just “arts”, long ago degenerate, but what it really means: values and behavioral matrices which derive from them. What can possibly be derived from ghetto than the other, even worse, one?

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    In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together
     
    Nah, even then it was bullsh*t that held it together.
    , @Corvinus
    "US Republic could exist only within white European cultural framework–it is now demolished."

    The American republic was originally constructed by those of European stock, within a cultural framework to be decided by future generations, who may or may not have been consisted of those groups.
  81. @John Jeremiah Smith

    “Hillary be be elected”
     
    I wrote "Hillary will be elected." Explain to me how a 40-year Mensa member can't fucking cut-and-paste as good as a six-year old.

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn’t relish it they wouldn’t say it.
     
    I simply detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can't spell, can't write, can't express a concept in declarative sentences. Can't parse a statement and accurately extract content, can't do anything but kvetch like a little Jew-bitch.

    I simply detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences. Can’t parse a statement and accurately extract content, can’t do anything but kvetch like a little Jew-bitch.

    You left out “can’t appreciate sarcasm.” ;-)

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  82. @cane toad
    I would not blame this entirely on women, cultural Marxism is a much bigger problem, gaining power as young people are brainwashed in school and by social media to accept their own decline and demise. This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters. None of them rocket scientists. It's in our gene pool apparently to succumb to irrational ideologies. Punishing ideologies. We are plagued by Calvinists, whether they realize that is what they are or not. Suffering is good! They live to make others suffer. Hobbes is our intellectual founder. Succeed or die. Suffering is good. For other people. People are not capable of deciding their own fate unless they are elites. And look what a great job they've done. Yet they still love themselves. No women are not the problem but they are certainly a big part of it. Many women have serious self-esteem problems and are clinically nuts. I am a woman but I would never vote for Hillary, I don't care if our leader is a woman, it makes no difference at all.

    Not to blame things on women, but as a group (or class or whatever collective noun might be acceptable these days) they do vote differently. JFK, Clinton, Obama – all depended on women voting differently from men to get elected.

    Just an observation. I seriously do not blame women, what is happening is very deeply rooted in our nature and, IMO, inescapable.

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  83. @jacques sheete
    I too detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can’t spell, can’t write, can’t express a concept in declarative sentences, don't have a sense of humor, run around with their noses in the air bragging about their probably imagined sappy "accomplishments," initiate personal attacks on other commenters, and can't appreciate a little sarcasm and wit (although they're likely be oblivious to it).

    That's fer starters...!

    and can’t appreciate a little sarcasm

    Whoops! I see jacques covered that angle. Sorry for piling on.

    /15 yards, unnecessary roughness.

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  84. @Seneca44
    Few would want either if there were another choice.

    He may be a little loopy, but a vote for Gary Johnson could throw the whole election into the House of Representatives. That might make for an interesting outcome which would almost certainly not be Hillary.

    Gary Johnson a “little loopy?” I’d say closer to certifiable.

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  85. @Andrei Martyanov

    Not just in terms of population size, but also in terms of having a huge spectrum of wildly differing interests among the general populace
     
    It is called a failure to become a real nation. Fred writes about it in his piece here:

    In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together
     
    In some sense, US is a follower of the Soviet 1977 Constitution (aka Brezhnev Constitution) which proclaimed such new "historic entity" as Soviet people. Yet, as historic lesson showed, Russians were Russians still and Azeris and Georgians didn't stop being Azeris and Georgians despite being called Soviets. Multicultural states do not live long (USSR anyone?) and here in US we have a case of demolition of the last unifying, however imperceptible by very many, foundation of European culture. US is de-Europeanizing with catastrophic speed. But then again, (Western) Europe stopped being Europe a while ago itself. Nations are not built on the bases of political or ideological creed, US is no exception. US Republic could exist only within white European cultural framework--it is now demolished. As Fred succinctly put it:

    American culture now drinks deeply from the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either.
     
    And culture here means not just "arts", long ago degenerate, but what it really means: values and behavioral matrices which derive from them. What can possibly be derived from ghetto than the other, even worse, one?

    In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together

    Nah, even then it was bullsh*t that held it together.

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  86. @Oldeguy
    "We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care. "
    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.

    “They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.”

    Got a mouse in your pocket? Please speak for yourself. Although the sobrique “baby boomer” has been thrust upon me because of my 1954 birthdate I have not blown anything. I have worked my ass off, played by the rules, and for the most part, with only 2 Republican exceptions, voted Libertarian since 1976.

    If you want to take the blame for the mess this country is in please go right ahead but don’t, because of my age or any other random affiliations, include me.

    By the way, I will make another Republican exception in a couple weeks when I and many other proud Libertarians will vote Trump.

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  87. @jacques sheete
    Did someone mention cults? Note the date (1933) on Nock's quip about the cult of personality in American politics.

    These foreign visitors also say that the American's interest differs from the Englishman's in being more concerned with men than with issues. They account for this by the fact that the official issues of our national campaigns are so trivial that they are really no issues at all, and that therefore the actual cleavage between our parties is not spacious. In other words, we have nothing that an Englishman would understand by an effective political Opposition. Hence whatever public interest there may be in an election must focus on the personality of the candidates.

    -Albert Jay Nock, What the American Votes for, The American Mercury, February 1933, pp. 176-182

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1933feb-00176?View=PDFPages

     

    For anyone who is interested, a good read, Our Enemy the State- E.J. Nock.

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    Yup, it’s a classic. Highly recommended. (BTW, I think it’s A. J.)
  88. @WorkingClass
    You're right Fred. It's over for the Republic. It's over for American society. It's been over for awhile. And now it's over for the Empire. Post imperial America will not be anything like post war America. It will be a horrible mess. You can take that as justification for your own nihilism. But your proselytizing is in poor taste. Men of good will work for the good when they are winning and when they are losing. Electing Trump will not prevent the crash. Nothing can prevent the crash. But electing Trump, whether he is allowed to take office or not, is a step in the right direction.

    Men of good will work for the good when they are winning and when they are losing.

    Very good Working Class, that’s the essence of the thing.

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  89. @Otto the P
    Nice screed. Makes me glad that--I'm Fred's age--the curtain will fall soon (gently, I hope). Still, there's fun to be had, even in an apocalypse. Thus: lots of gun and ammo, lots deep amusement at the folly-dance of the elite, much joy to be got from watching media slit its own throat and bugaloo in the blood spew, much quiver from looking at the once-great cities and thinking "Soon gone forever." Also: sleep, a good woman, lots of bourbon. It ain't the smell of victory, but it beats suicide.

    For those who are above 60 years of age such as yourself and cane toad and Fred, you’re jaded. It’s other than surprising that there will be this “I can’t do anything about the impending doom” mentality. Rather than lament and throw up your hands in the air, use that wisdom and become actively involved in solving problems rather than contributing to the malaise.

    Now Fred…

    “Let’s not delude ourselves. America is ruled by the Five Cities, Boston, New York, Washington, Tel Aviv, and Hollywood. The rest of us just pay taxes. The heart of the beast is New York, the Ivies being its nursery and Washington its storefront.”

    Of course you are deluding yourself, because American citizens are not controlled by these cities, they are governed by those whom they elect into office. And, remember Fred, you are living in Mexico on the gummint’s dime. Perhaps you should practice what you preach and refrain from pilfering the coffers.

    “American culture now drinks deeply from the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either. The country has achieved the dictatorship of the sub-proletariat. Someone said that when the lower orders found that they could vote themselves the treasury, they would. They can also vote themselves the culture, and have.”

    American culture has always transformed itself, and members from each generation find disgust over certain aspects of it.

    “The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it.”

    Of course there is something to do about it. Get busy living or get busy dying.

    “In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together, and poor communications provided enough separation to maintain peace among groups that detested each other: Massachusetts and Alabama, West Virginia and California.”

    Corrected for accuracy –> In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, generally embraced a particular religion, were unified by the American culture, and consisted of several racial and ethnic groups, with some people in different regions disliking one another for a host of reasons. Despite those conflicts, Americans found a way to remain united overall.

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  90. @Andrei Martyanov

    Not just in terms of population size, but also in terms of having a huge spectrum of wildly differing interests among the general populace
     
    It is called a failure to become a real nation. Fred writes about it in his piece here:

    In 1955, America was overwhelmingly white, Anglophone, Christian, and European, which provided enough unity to hold it together
     
    In some sense, US is a follower of the Soviet 1977 Constitution (aka Brezhnev Constitution) which proclaimed such new "historic entity" as Soviet people. Yet, as historic lesson showed, Russians were Russians still and Azeris and Georgians didn't stop being Azeris and Georgians despite being called Soviets. Multicultural states do not live long (USSR anyone?) and here in US we have a case of demolition of the last unifying, however imperceptible by very many, foundation of European culture. US is de-Europeanizing with catastrophic speed. But then again, (Western) Europe stopped being Europe a while ago itself. Nations are not built on the bases of political or ideological creed, US is no exception. US Republic could exist only within white European cultural framework--it is now demolished. As Fred succinctly put it:

    American culture now drinks deeply from the ghetto, and there is no turning this around either.
     
    And culture here means not just "arts", long ago degenerate, but what it really means: values and behavioral matrices which derive from them. What can possibly be derived from ghetto than the other, even worse, one?

    “US Republic could exist only within white European cultural framework–it is now demolished.”

    The American republic was originally constructed by those of European stock, within a cultural framework to be decided by future generations, who may or may not have been consisted of those groups.

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    • Replies: @Pierrej
    I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form.
  91. @TheBoom
    The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote. US women are very susceptible to Cultural Marxism. First thing they gave us was Prohibition and now, if elected, Hillary. Hillary as president makes Prohibition seem like a smart idea.

    “The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote.”

    Fixed right, yes.

    “US women are very susceptible to Cultural Marxism”

    Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman.

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    • Replies: @Stonehands
    "...Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman...."

    The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the "New left" and feminism.

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy. They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the 'oppressive' order.


    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus--'continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means' as one of their members noted.


    To further the advance of their 'quiet' cultural revolution - but giving us no idea about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):


    1. The creation of racism offenses

    2. Continual change to create confusion

    3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

    4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority

    5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.

    6. The promotion of excessive drinking

    7. Emptying of churches

    8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime

    9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits

    10. Control and dumbing down of media

    11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family
  92. @Reactionary Utopian

    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.
     
    With whatever respect may be due, speak for yourself. Collective generational guilt -- or credit, for that matter -- does not exist. Individual people do things.

    Who knows what you mean by "the Family Heritage?" I'm 62 years old; I've read and loved the literature of my language; I understand physics and can do calculus; I play the violin, and I've taught some of those things to others who wanted to learn them. I've loved a woman and raised children with her. "Eternal shame?" If I'm to know it, you'll have to explain why.

    Explanation: When the US came up with the Iraq WMD story you accepted it. When the US killed 100.000′s Iraqi civilians “by mistake” you accepted it, when the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth risked their careers to bring you the government lies about 9/11 you rejected them . Please take your physics, calculus and violin and clear off.

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    Explanation: When the US came up with the Iraq WMD story you accepted it.
     
    No, I didn't.

    When the US killed 100.000′s Iraqi civilians “by mistake” you accepted it,
     
    No, I didn't.

    when the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth risked their careers to bring you the government lies about 9/11 you rejected them .
     
    No, I didn't. Sensing a theme here? For someone who doesn't know me, you ... yeah, you really don't know me, do you?

    Please take your physics, calculus and violin and clear off.
     
    Request denied.
  93. @Reactionary Utopian

    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.
     
    With whatever respect may be due, speak for yourself. Collective generational guilt -- or credit, for that matter -- does not exist. Individual people do things.

    Who knows what you mean by "the Family Heritage?" I'm 62 years old; I've read and loved the literature of my language; I understand physics and can do calculus; I play the violin, and I've taught some of those things to others who wanted to learn them. I've loved a woman and raised children with her. "Eternal shame?" If I'm to know it, you'll have to explain why.

    “Speak for yourself”
    As an anonymous commentator, whom else could I possibly be speaking for ?
    Your list of accomplishments are all praiseworthy and enviable ( never having mastered a musical instrument is one of my many regrets ), but I do note that they are all individual; quite possibly you have a personal history of involvement in community affairs that you opted not to mention, so quite possibly what I am about to say doesn’t apply to you personally.
    What I meant by Family Heritage was the huge benefit of simply being born in the United States; a vast array of opportunity, a huge infrastructure for self development, and 25 centuries of Western Civilization that I personally did not create but was uniquely positioned to reap the benefits thereof.
    An American is supposedly someone born on third base who thus believes himself to be a major league ball player.
    Perhaps the richness of all that provided the seeds of the downfall- with individual opportunity so tempting, abundant, and time and energy consuming, public affairs could be left to those universal objects of contempt, “the politicians”.
    Hell, we had far better things to do with our lives, so we did them.
    Does collective guilt exist ? Maybe not, but collective consequence most certainly does.

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  94. @RaceRealist88
    As Trump says "They are our greatest ally" (Israel). And people really believe things will change if he wins. They fell for the cult of personality.

    I agree that he’s likely to be bad on the Zionists- bad as Hillary?

    He is, however likely to be right on the two things that are irreversible:
    Immigration
    War with Russia.

    If Hillary wins the country has a shorter time frame than she does and she’ll be dead by the end of her only term.

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  95. @John Jeremiah Smith

    No women are not the problem but they are certainly a big part of it.
     
    This attitude amongst citizens of a theoretically free democracy has always puzzled me. Since when are women responsible for more problems of any given civilization than are men? Ain't happened yet. Different problems, sure, but more? or worse? Oh, hell no. Every recent problem caused by the, um, gullibility and/or weaknesses of women, can be fixed quickly, easily, and effectively with rational policies and enforcement. As can the problems created by men, albeit not as easily, imo.

    Hey Huckleberry… You live in a feminized homosexual paradise- without precedent.

    I don’t think as colorful character as John Jeremiah Smith would subscribe to your glib rationalizations of these screeching liberal harridans as the foundation for any sort of normal society.

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  96. @Reactionary Utopian

    The same way the “black” Obama was chosen to mollify “progressives,” the “womanly” Hilary is just a convenience for plutocracy. She is an androgynous politician and war criminal. No need to call her a woman.
     
    Annamaria has said a mouthful here, very neatly. I've certainly been thinking of the pushing of Hillary as a "first woman president" as ludicrous, because the murderous and desperately corrupt thug has none of the characteristic features of a woman. She's a female impersonator. But what I didn't see until now was that very apt analogy: "Hillary" is to "woman" as "Obama" is to "black." Neither one qualifies. Both are marketing contrivances.

    “…But what I didn’t see until now was that very apt analogy: “Hillary” is to “woman” as “Obama” is to “black.” Neither one qualifies. Both are marketing contrivances…”

    What a crock of BS… 95% of blacks voted for Obama…because WHY?

    And if Clinton is elected it will be on a blizzard of emotional snowflake women and a vaginafied cohort of pseudo- men.

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  97. “Let’s not delude ourselves. America is ruled by the Five Cities, Boston, New York, Washington, Tel Aviv, and Hollywood. The rest of us just pay taxes. The heart of the beast is New York, the Ivies being its nursery and Washington its storefront.”

    You seem to be coming down with a case of “The ‘Jew’ thing.”

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  98. A great essay. I suppose it’s not utterly beyond the realm of possibility that the right side might win the civil war that I now see as inevitable. If so, it is again remotely possible that a great and selfless leader or group of leaders might arise. He/they might, although it is hard to conceive the possibility, implement a ruthless, fascist, transitional/caretaker regime whose ultimate goal is the restoration of the original pre-Lincoln republic. But I doubt it. And even if this did eventuate there would be a lot of horror in between.

    Instead of dreaming of an unlikely future, I’ll take comfort from having lived the better part of my life in the best country and the best time in that country’s history to have been an ordinary – maybe slightly above average – human being. I hope I die before the descent into real nastiness begins. So I’m sort of hoping the current Ponzi scheme will not collapse for another twenty years or so. My idiot relatives and most of my idiot friends think things are just great so screw them.

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  99. @Corvinus
    "The US future was fixed when women got the right to vote."

    Fixed right, yes.

    "US women are very susceptible to Cultural Marxism"

    Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman.

    “…Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman….”

    The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the “New left” and feminism.

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy. They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the ‘oppressive’ order.

    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus–’continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means’ as one of their members noted.

    To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution – but giving us no idea about their plans for the future – the School recommended (among other things):

    1. The creation of racism offenses

    2. Continual change to create confusion

    3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

    4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority

    5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.

    6. The promotion of excessive drinking

    7. Emptying of churches

    8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime

    9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits

    10. Control and dumbing down of media

    11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

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    "The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the “New left” and feminism."

    No, the "new left" and "feminism" each derived from a host of political, economic, and cultural factors, which included Jews.

    "Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy."

    No, the Enlightenment and capitalism has challenged the Judaeo-Christian legacy.

    "They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the ‘oppressive’ order."

    There were oppressive elements in American society, in particular during the Progressive Era. A number of groups sought to make reforms in our institutions. Were you asleep in your American history course?

    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus–’continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means’ as one of their members noted.

    "1. The creation of racism offenses"

    No. This was derived by Jim Crow, which was subsequently removed by Congressional legislation.

    "2. Continual change to create confusion"

    No. American society has at times been in confusion over the roles of its citizens.

    "3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children"

    The teaching of sex has been a parental responsibility. Homosexuality is not "taught", it's in born.

    "4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority"

    Wait, educators are important? Today? Could have fooled me.

    "5. Huge immigration to destroy identity."

    America's identity is immigration.

    "6. The promotion of excessive drinking"

    That is a cultural phenomenon. Talk to the Irish and Germans.

    "7. Emptying of churches"

    A number of reasons are in play here for pews being empty.

    "8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime"

    Our legal system, warts and all, is considered one of the best in the world.

    "9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits"

    I'll give you one there.

    "10. Control and dumbing down of media"

    They don't need "Cultural Marxists" for that!

    "11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family"

    Again, a host of factors here--divorce, emphasis on materialism, lack of faith in God.
    , @Auntie Analogue
    Solid comment, my dear Stonehands.

    You seemed to overlook that the Frankfurt School's means of converting the masses to its Marxist line was to take over the culture.

    Communists and socialists such as Alan Lomax and Pete Seeger purported to collect and catalogue folk tales and folk music, when what they and others of his ilk actually did was to cherry-pick the rich veins of American folk culture (and foreign cultures) for elements that the Left could use to sell Leftism to the masses. The late 1950's-early 1960's folk music rage came from college kids who'd been indoctrinated by the Marcuse gang of professors - they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals' mid-60's hit's lyric, "People everywhere just wanna be free!" is hard to top).

    Soon thereafter the Left's effort to take over the culture actually did take over - it completely Left-politicized - rock and pop, Broadway and Hollywood, and even today's news media and local/state/national politics. The Frankfurt School understood that marinating the masses in pop culture iterations of Marxism was a superb method of indoctrination, far superior to the Orwellian "boot stamping on a human face." This takeover has been so successful that, with the full support or unwillingness of today's boomer professoriate, today's college campuses are now pestholes of radical Left speech codes and "safe spaces," which are the predictable outcome of mass-marination in Marxist-based pop culture.

    At this point the culture is utterly dominated by the successful Frankfurt School takeover (Broadway's Hamilton, for instance). Leftist cultural dominance forms the most massive and redoubtable obstacle to any effort to return to the much more empirical system & culture that had prevailed until the Frankfurt School up-ended it all.

    By my best lights, I consider that Winston Churchill understood all of that: "[T]he whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science."
    , @geokat62

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy.
     
    My understanding of the task of the FS is slightly different than yours:

    The question that has to be asked is: who is responsible for promoting Political Correctness (PC)?

    The brain-trust behind the promotion of PC is the Frankfurt School. The FS identified nationalism as the root cause of the holocaust. To ensure that another holocaust never occurred again, the FS prescribed cultural Marxism (better known as Political Correctness) as the antidote to nationalism.

    Theodor W. Adorno, a leading member of the Frankfurt School of critical theory, wrote The Authoritarian Personality in 1950. In it, Adorno invented a set of criteria by which to define personality traits, ranking them on what he called the ‘Fascist scale’.

    Here’s how one observer characterized the book’s goal:

    [it] was to eliminate antisemitism by “subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective psychotherapy — by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
     
    , @schmenz
    http://theeye-witness.blogspot.com/2014/01/a-concentration-camp-without-tears.html
  100. Didn’t realize Trump has good comedic timing.

    Man, five years ago I never would have believed I’d write this, but… The Democrats & liberals & Hillary & the media & the rest of them have made me admire and respect Trump warts and all.

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  101. @Stonehands
    For anyone who is interested, a good read, Our Enemy the State- E.J. Nock.

    Yup, it’s a classic. Highly recommended. (BTW, I think it’s A. J.)

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  102. On topic, I completely agree with Fred, in that what we are seeing is the collapse of a culture and a bad, possibly terminal time for the greatest civilization in history. As Quigley and Toynbee wrote at length, the death of civilizations is hardly unique in history, and one can live a perfectly fine life in the period of imperial decay.

    But it really looks like Western Civilization and its universal empire the US are on a steady downward slope.

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  103. Society would have already collapsed if it weren’t at least somewhat robust. There are forces pushing in the other direction, mainly science and technology. Americans may need to start their own Break Away Civilization. We are sort of trapped between the IRS and the Banking/Currency system, but maybe that can be gotten round.

    The Empire does seem to be breaking. Even the Philippines is breaking away from the US. Turkey is still in NATO, but it looks like both it and Europe are wavering. And we are over due for a recession. The coming downturn (currently projected for spring 2017) may push things along a bit.

    If you want to see America’s future under Hillary, look at the way s/he ran Arkansas.

    I don’t know what Trump will do.

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  104. @Che Guava
    SFG.

    The agenda of that 'Anonymous' has passed you by.

    His point in saying 'Jerusalem, not Tel Aviv' was to support moving the capital of Israel to a place where it is a pure provocation, and accepted by no polities outside Israel (sure, many dangerous traitors in the USA support it).

    Would guess you know that, and are just providing cover with your foolish comment.

    No, I honestly missed that. I never got that worked up over that issue.

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    Point taken. Some are. The capital of Israel is Tel Aviv. The only people considering moving an embassy to Jerusalem are dangerous lunatics in the USA.
  105. WGASA?
    Based on test scores, I could join this organization:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Nine_Society

    but why?
    Notice they have a total of 1700 members worldwide.
    Guaranteed there are tens of thousands (at least) who *could* join this or a similar organization, but have better things to do with their time, even if that is only commenting on this blog.

    My bottom line:
    “Mensans” are, at best, middle brow dweebs who really need to GAL.
    JMO, FWIW

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  106. @Corvinus
    "US Republic could exist only within white European cultural framework–it is now demolished."

    The American republic was originally constructed by those of European stock, within a cultural framework to be decided by future generations, who may or may not have been consisted of those groups.

    I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form."

    That was part and parcel for the times. But the Founding Fathers enabled its future citizens to make their mark politically, economically, and socially. It wasn't as if Americans were to be in perpetual cement shoes regarding racial matters. That is, Americans themselves could determine the status of non-whites.

    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form.
     
    The Founding Fathers had no plans for a moon landing, either.
  107. @John Jeremiah Smith

    “Hillary be be elected”
     
    I wrote "Hillary will be elected." Explain to me how a 40-year Mensa member can't fucking cut-and-paste as good as a six-year old.

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn’t relish it they wouldn’t say it.
     
    I simply detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can't spell, can't write, can't express a concept in declarative sentences. Can't parse a statement and accurately extract content, can't do anything but kvetch like a little Jew-bitch.

    What sort of moron equates intelligence with literacy?

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    What sort of moron equates intelligence with literacy?
     
    I know very few morons, and none of them have ever raised the subject in my presence.

    There is a correlation between intelligence and literacy. Always has been, always will be.
  108. @jacques sheete
    Yup, it’s a classic. Highly recommended. (BTW, I think it’s A. J.)

    I stand corrected, Albert Jay Nock!

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  109. @Stonehands
    "...Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman...."

    The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the "New left" and feminism.

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy. They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the 'oppressive' order.


    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus--'continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means' as one of their members noted.


    To further the advance of their 'quiet' cultural revolution - but giving us no idea about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):


    1. The creation of racism offenses

    2. Continual change to create confusion

    3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

    4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority

    5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.

    6. The promotion of excessive drinking

    7. Emptying of churches

    8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime

    9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits

    10. Control and dumbing down of media

    11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

    “The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the “New left” and feminism.”

    No, the “new left” and “feminism” each derived from a host of political, economic, and cultural factors, which included Jews.

    “Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy.”

    No, the Enlightenment and capitalism has challenged the Judaeo-Christian legacy.

    “They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the ‘oppressive’ order.”

    There were oppressive elements in American society, in particular during the Progressive Era. A number of groups sought to make reforms in our institutions. Were you asleep in your American history course?

    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus–’continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means’ as one of their members noted.

    “1. The creation of racism offenses”

    No. This was derived by Jim Crow, which was subsequently removed by Congressional legislation.

    “2. Continual change to create confusion”

    No. American society has at times been in confusion over the roles of its citizens.

    “3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children”

    The teaching of sex has been a parental responsibility. Homosexuality is not “taught”, it’s in born.

    “4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority”

    Wait, educators are important? Today? Could have fooled me.

    “5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.”

    America’s identity is immigration.

    “6. The promotion of excessive drinking”

    That is a cultural phenomenon. Talk to the Irish and Germans.

    “7. Emptying of churches”

    A number of reasons are in play here for pews being empty.

    “8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime”

    Our legal system, warts and all, is considered one of the best in the world.

    “9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits”

    I’ll give you one there.

    “10. Control and dumbing down of media”

    They don’t need “Cultural Marxists” for that!

    “11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family”

    Again, a host of factors here–divorce, emphasis on materialism, lack of faith in God.

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    "...No, the “new left” and “feminism” each derived from a host of political, economic, and cultural factors, which included Jews...."

    But... The Frankfurt School were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse, Horkheimer, et al.
    You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the Frankfurt School with weak semantic tricks of deflection.

    "....No, the Enlightenment and capitalism has challenged the Judaeo-Christian legacy...."


    Funny... I thought we were talking about a cultural attack on the pillars of western civilization that took place in the 1960's- not the 16- 1700's!


    "...Homosexuality is not “taught”, it’s in born...."




    Two of the nation’s most distinguished experts on mental health recently published a major study contradicting what our cultural elites have been telling us about sexuality.

    The report, “Sexuality and Gender: Findings from the Biological, Psychological, and Social Sciences,” is co-authored by Dr. Lawrence Mayer and Dr. Paul McHugh. Mayer is a scholar-in-residence in the Department of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University and a professor of statistics and biostatistics at Arizona State University.

    Here is the executive summary:

    Part One: Sexual Orientation

    ● The understanding of sexual orientation as an innate, biologically fixed property of human beings — the idea that people are “born that way” — is not supported by scientific evidence.

    Here are the works, the "fruit" of your truly calamitous, dilapidated secular humanism/Marxism that you subtly promote through your phony moral philanthropy...

    Fistgate III:

    Obama's Safe Schools Czar's [Kevin Jennings] 'Black Book' For Kids Included Tips on Fisting and Pi$$ing on Your Partner

    Barack Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” was the keynote speaker at the GLSEN/Boston Conference at Tufts University. High school students at the conference learned about fisting and watersports from the GLSEN activists.

    Jesus taught about not hindering others to the kingdom, specifically children. He also said that if you do instill depravity in children, it would be better that you have a millstone tied around your neck and you be cast into the sea.

    There is no such thing as "straight". You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna [blow jobs for votes..]

    Which leads us to...

    "...Our legal system, warts and all, is considered one of the best in the world...."

    Not any more my friend! Have you been in Anonymous Smith's isolation tank for the last 8 years or what!!! I am not even going to count the ways...you are truly naive or the laughing stock of the internet!
  110. @Pierrej
    I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form.

    “I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form.”

    That was part and parcel for the times. But the Founding Fathers enabled its future citizens to make their mark politically, economically, and socially. It wasn’t as if Americans were to be in perpetual cement shoes regarding racial matters. That is, Americans themselves could determine the status of non-whites.

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  111. @Anonymous

    More fun in the Indispensable Nation
     
    Please don't talk like a Supremacist (Suprematists would be better, maybe).
    We all know the Indispensable Nations are two, one is Mexico, the other is you-know-which.

    Give her credit for consistency. She is always mendacious, firmly in the pockets of Wall Street, Israel, the Neocon hawks, and the arms industry
     
    Of Saudi Arabia too. And I recently read they got money also from Russia (google "Clinton Russia uranium").

    This said, you are writing terrifyingly well. There's something in this piece I don't know how to define, perhaps a... cutting sincerity, that really impressed me.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost. Once broken, the chain cannot be repaired.

    It is over. Putrefaction is irreversible, either by Ronald or Lucretia.

    The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it. Impunity, normal in Guatemala, allows corruption to go unpunished. Think sub-prime.
     
    All columnists are telling Unz readers there realities, and most of Unz readers already know them.
    One comes here everyday to rob himself the curiosity of how this small group of very sharp-witted people will reword the same. Sincerity is so rare that the articles restating and restating the same never get boresome.

    Yet there's something no-one dares to tell: that destiny is destiny, life is a cycle, and that subjection to destiny and cyclicity regard countries, cultures, civilizations as they do each of us.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost.
     
    I see most of the over 50 completely oblivious of this fact: they seem more hopeful, if not optimistic, and combatant than the young.
    I think what misdirects them is they aren't in touch with the young people. They don't read the forums and blogs where the young people comments. They haven't visited a campus for decades and have no idea what things are like now (such an episode is the subject of a most touching, veiledly autobiographic, chapter of I am Charlotte Simmons).

    This is why they hope.

    I was in the company of some 40-and-something-year-old English teachers -- all women, that goes without saying --, someone brought up the subject of the comparative of "stupid" saying she couldn't believe some students were so ignorant they thought it was possible to write "stupidest", while the rule everybody knows says it must be "more stupid".

    I tried to object to that and tell them the complete rule and how there is nothing wrong with "stupider" at all, and they were, well, shook. One or two mocked me for my ignorance (you don't know disyllables always get the "more" in front of them. The others chose to be civil and conceal their shock at my ignorance.

    ...

    A look at school, at the students and, no less, the teachers, tells us all we need to know.
    They don't even know the great things behind us.

    Mention Thomas Gray to them, to the teachers of English I mean, and see if we are still a country or not.

    So, thanks for the courage not to wear an optimistic mask as if this still were a party.

    Thomas Gray? Didn’t he write the most popular poem ever written in the English language? The poem that initiated the cult of death that cast a shadow over the entire reign of Queen Victoria? Not important! Toni Morrison’s work, now that’s important! And Kanye West–what could be more important than his work?

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  112. @Bill Jones
    What sort of moron equates intelligence with literacy?

    What sort of moron equates intelligence with literacy?

    I know very few morons, and none of them have ever raised the subject in my presence.

    There is a correlation between intelligence and literacy. Always has been, always will be.

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  113. @Pierrej
    I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form.

    I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form.

    The Founding Fathers had no plans for a moon landing, either.

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    Yes, that's a great point. Because, as we all know, the founding fathers were aerospace engineers who were in the business of preparing for future space expeditions.
  114. @Stonehands
    "...Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman...."

    The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the "New left" and feminism.

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy. They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the 'oppressive' order.


    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus--'continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means' as one of their members noted.


    To further the advance of their 'quiet' cultural revolution - but giving us no idea about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):


    1. The creation of racism offenses

    2. Continual change to create confusion

    3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

    4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority

    5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.

    6. The promotion of excessive drinking

    7. Emptying of churches

    8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime

    9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits

    10. Control and dumbing down of media

    11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

    Solid comment, my dear Stonehands.

    You seemed to overlook that the Frankfurt School’s means of converting the masses to its Marxist line was to take over the culture.

    Communists and socialists such as Alan Lomax and Pete Seeger purported to collect and catalogue folk tales and folk music, when what they and others of his ilk actually did was to cherry-pick the rich veins of American folk culture (and foreign cultures) for elements that the Left could use to sell Leftism to the masses. The late 1950′s-early 1960′s folk music rage came from college kids who’d been indoctrinated by the Marcuse gang of professors – they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals’ mid-60′s hit’s lyric, “People everywhere just wanna be free!” is hard to top).

    Soon thereafter the Left’s effort to take over the culture actually did take over – it completely Left-politicized – rock and pop, Broadway and Hollywood, and even today’s news media and local/state/national politics. The Frankfurt School understood that marinating the masses in pop culture iterations of Marxism was a superb method of indoctrination, far superior to the Orwellian “boot stamping on a human face.” This takeover has been so successful that, with the full support or unwillingness of today’s boomer professoriate, today’s college campuses are now pestholes of radical Left speech codes and “safe spaces,” which are the predictable outcome of mass-marination in Marxist-based pop culture.

    At this point the culture is utterly dominated by the successful Frankfurt School takeover (Broadway’s Hamilton, for instance). Leftist cultural dominance forms the most massive and redoubtable obstacle to any effort to return to the much more empirical system & culture that had prevailed until the Frankfurt School up-ended it all.

    By my best lights, I consider that Winston Churchill understood all of that: “[T]he whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.”

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    "....they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals’ mid-60′s hit’s lyric, “People everywhere just wanna be free!” is hard to top)."
     
    Sam Cooke's "Wonderful World" 1959:

    Don't know much about history
    Don't know much biology
    Don't know much about a science book
    Don't know much about the French I took

    But I do know that I love you
    And I know that if you love me, too
    What a wonderful world this would be

    Don't know much about geography
    Don't know much trigonometry
    Don't know much about algebra
    Don't know what a slide rule is for
    , @jacques sheete
    Your excellent, fact filled comment is an example of one of the reasons I spend time here. Thanks!
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    You seemed to overlook that the Frankfurt School’s means of converting the masses to its Marxist line was to take over the culture.
     
    Jeeze, wid all dem dere mean nasty guys controlling our national spirit -- that deep-down inviolate Americanism that springs eternal from our draft-dodging butts -- it's amazing we didn't just wet our goddamn pants on a daily basis, huh, Auntie?
    , @Rurik

    collect and catalogue folk tales and folk music, when what they and others of his ilk actually did was to cherry-pick the rich veins of American folk culture (and foreign cultures) for elements that the Left could use to sell Leftism to the masses. The late 1950′s-early 1960′s folk music rage came from college kids who’d been indoctrinated by the Marcuse gang of professors – they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VM2eLhvsSM

    and they're at it today more than ever

    Hanna Montana's trajectory from all American little girl into world-class skank was no accident

    pop "culture" today is a septic tank, only it works in reverse, and the sewage is pumped from the tank into the souls of the children

    this guy

    http://dudye.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Jay-Z11.jpg

    and his wife

    https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Beyonce_Black_Panthers_rtr_img.jpg

    are America's pop royalty, and they're treated like royalty at the White House

    we've come a long way from the America of Normal Rockwell paintings, and none of that was by accident or just a natural transformation based on the market. Every single bit of it was carefully orchestrated.

    here they're gloating

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201305/white-middle-age-suicide-in-america-skyrockets
  115. @Miro23
    A good article from Fred.

    The USA is truly the Jewel in Israel's Crown. Colony USA transfers her wealth to Israel and sends her troops to fight her wars, while her Imperial administrators run the FED, Treasury, media and Congress.

    On this view, elections are a native affair, where a "President" needs to be friendly to Imperial interests (i.e. not subversive). The US could go lower but it is probably most useful to the Empire as a cash cow and source of military manpower, with Hillary being the chief collaborator and a vote for continuity.

    “Colony USA transfers her wealth to Israel and sends her troops to fight her wars, while her Imperial administrators run the FED, Treasury, media and Congress.”

    And the US has been eaten away for this?
    “The Empire Files: How Palestine Became Colonized:”

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  116. @John Jeremiah Smith

    I think it goes without say that the founding fathers never intended for blacks to have control or influence over the country in any way, shape, or form.
     
    The Founding Fathers had no plans for a moon landing, either.

    Yes, that’s a great point. Because, as we all know, the founding fathers were aerospace engineers who were in the business of preparing for future space expeditions.

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    Yes, that’s a great point. Because, as we all know, the founding fathers were aerospace engineers who were in the business of preparing for future space expeditions.
     
    Exactly. And, as we all know, the founding fathers were all slaveholders who wrote extensive theories on the ethical values of slavery and productivity from slavery.

    Climb it, Pete. Climate, too, as the founding fathers planned for climate change.
  117. @Auntie Analogue
    Solid comment, my dear Stonehands.

    You seemed to overlook that the Frankfurt School's means of converting the masses to its Marxist line was to take over the culture.

    Communists and socialists such as Alan Lomax and Pete Seeger purported to collect and catalogue folk tales and folk music, when what they and others of his ilk actually did was to cherry-pick the rich veins of American folk culture (and foreign cultures) for elements that the Left could use to sell Leftism to the masses. The late 1950's-early 1960's folk music rage came from college kids who'd been indoctrinated by the Marcuse gang of professors - they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals' mid-60's hit's lyric, "People everywhere just wanna be free!" is hard to top).

    Soon thereafter the Left's effort to take over the culture actually did take over - it completely Left-politicized - rock and pop, Broadway and Hollywood, and even today's news media and local/state/national politics. The Frankfurt School understood that marinating the masses in pop culture iterations of Marxism was a superb method of indoctrination, far superior to the Orwellian "boot stamping on a human face." This takeover has been so successful that, with the full support or unwillingness of today's boomer professoriate, today's college campuses are now pestholes of radical Left speech codes and "safe spaces," which are the predictable outcome of mass-marination in Marxist-based pop culture.

    At this point the culture is utterly dominated by the successful Frankfurt School takeover (Broadway's Hamilton, for instance). Leftist cultural dominance forms the most massive and redoubtable obstacle to any effort to return to the much more empirical system & culture that had prevailed until the Frankfurt School up-ended it all.

    By my best lights, I consider that Winston Churchill understood all of that: "[T]he whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science."

    “….they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals’ mid-60′s hit’s lyric, “People everywhere just wanna be free!” is hard to top).”

    Sam Cooke’s “Wonderful World” 1959:

    Don’t know much about history
    Don’t know much biology
    Don’t know much about a science book
    Don’t know much about the French I took

    But I do know that I love you
    And I know that if you love me, too
    What a wonderful world this would be

    Don’t know much about geography
    Don’t know much trigonometry
    Don’t know much about algebra
    Don’t know what a slide rule is for

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    Sam Cooke’s “Wonderful World” 1959:

    And how can we ever forget Nena?


    Hast Du etwas Zeit für mich
    Dann singe ich ein Lied für Dich
    Von 99 Luftballons
    Auf ihrem Weg zum Horizont

    Denkst Du vielleicht g'rad an mich
    Dann singe ich einen Lied für Dich
    Von 99 Luftballons
    Und dass so was von so was kommt

    99 Luftballons
    Auf ihrem Weg zum Horizont
    Hielt man für UFOs aus dem All
    Darum schickte eine General

    'Ne Fliegerstaffel hinterher
    Alarm zu geben, wenn es so wär
    Dabei war'n da am Horizont
    Nur 99 Luftballons

    99 Düsenflieger
    Jeder war ein großer Krieger
    Hielten sich für Captain Kirk
    Es gab ein großes Feuerwerk

    Die Nachbarn haben nichts gerafft
    Und fühlten sich gleich angemacht
    Dabei schoss man am Horizont
    Auf 99 Luftballons

    99 Kriegsminister
    Streichholz und Benzinkanister
    Hielten sich für schlaue Leute
    Witterten schon fette Beute

    Riefen, Krieg und wollten Macht
    Mann, wer hätte das gedacht
    Dass es einmal soweit kommt
    Wegen 99 Luftballons

    Wegen 99 Luftballons
    99 Luftballons

    99 Jahre Krieg
    Ließen keinen Platz für Sieger
    Kriegsminister gibt's nicht mehr
    Und auch keine Düsenflieger

    Heute zieh' ich meine Runden
    Seh die Welt in Trümmern liegen
    Hab 'n Luftballon gefunden
    Denk' an Dich und lass' ihn fliegen
  118. @Stonehands
    "...Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman...."

    The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the "New left" and feminism.

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy. They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the 'oppressive' order.


    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus--'continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means' as one of their members noted.


    To further the advance of their 'quiet' cultural revolution - but giving us no idea about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):


    1. The creation of racism offenses

    2. Continual change to create confusion

    3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

    4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority

    5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.

    6. The promotion of excessive drinking

    7. Emptying of churches

    8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime

    9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits

    10. Control and dumbing down of media

    11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy.

    My understanding of the task of the FS is slightly different than yours:

    The question that has to be asked is: who is responsible for promoting Political Correctness (PC)?

    The brain-trust behind the promotion of PC is the Frankfurt School. The FS identified nationalism as the root cause of the holocaust. To ensure that another holocaust never occurred again, the FS prescribed cultural Marxism (better known as Political Correctness) as the antidote to nationalism.

    Theodor W. Adorno, a leading member of the Frankfurt School of critical theory, wrote The Authoritarian Personality in 1950. In it, Adorno invented a set of criteria by which to define personality traits, ranking them on what he called the ‘Fascist scale’.

    Here’s how one observer characterized the book’s goal:

    [it] was to eliminate antisemitism by “subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective psychotherapy — by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality

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    Auntie- I posted up some broad comments about the Frankfurt's- and looked forward to additional information from the quick- witted commentariat...Of course it's all about the culture- thanks for this input!
    , @Stonehands
    Yup....and...

    Henry Makow has written extensively on the spiritual component of this broad attack on the pillars of Western Civilization.
  119. @Auntie Analogue
    Solid comment, my dear Stonehands.

    You seemed to overlook that the Frankfurt School's means of converting the masses to its Marxist line was to take over the culture.

    Communists and socialists such as Alan Lomax and Pete Seeger purported to collect and catalogue folk tales and folk music, when what they and others of his ilk actually did was to cherry-pick the rich veins of American folk culture (and foreign cultures) for elements that the Left could use to sell Leftism to the masses. The late 1950's-early 1960's folk music rage came from college kids who'd been indoctrinated by the Marcuse gang of professors - they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals' mid-60's hit's lyric, "People everywhere just wanna be free!" is hard to top).

    Soon thereafter the Left's effort to take over the culture actually did take over - it completely Left-politicized - rock and pop, Broadway and Hollywood, and even today's news media and local/state/national politics. The Frankfurt School understood that marinating the masses in pop culture iterations of Marxism was a superb method of indoctrination, far superior to the Orwellian "boot stamping on a human face." This takeover has been so successful that, with the full support or unwillingness of today's boomer professoriate, today's college campuses are now pestholes of radical Left speech codes and "safe spaces," which are the predictable outcome of mass-marination in Marxist-based pop culture.

    At this point the culture is utterly dominated by the successful Frankfurt School takeover (Broadway's Hamilton, for instance). Leftist cultural dominance forms the most massive and redoubtable obstacle to any effort to return to the much more empirical system & culture that had prevailed until the Frankfurt School up-ended it all.

    By my best lights, I consider that Winston Churchill understood all of that: "[T]he whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science."

    Your excellent, fact filled comment is an example of one of the reasons I spend time here. Thanks!

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  120. That was… Honest! I’m not American citizen, but this “Election” commotion pisses me off!
    My sympathies are on Trump’s side. But really – both he and Hillary are puppets of jewish clans who have their own plans: https://brutalist.press/posts/3/rothschild-family-trump-are-going-to-fool-world-by-replacing-fed

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  121. @Pierrej
    Yes, that's a great point. Because, as we all know, the founding fathers were aerospace engineers who were in the business of preparing for future space expeditions.

    Yes, that’s a great point. Because, as we all know, the founding fathers were aerospace engineers who were in the business of preparing for future space expeditions.

    Exactly. And, as we all know, the founding fathers were all slaveholders who wrote extensive theories on the ethical values of slavery and productivity from slavery.

    Climb it, Pete. Climate, too, as the founding fathers planned for climate change.

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    Obviously, but I'm not seeing how you think this is relevant to my point in any way. Is the country moving in a better direction now that blacks have increasing power over the pop culture and the politics of the country? Are things better now that blacks are becoming immune from criticism in the mainstream media? Are we making progress now that blacks have begun to steer the country into whichever direction their hearts' desire? Perhaps you're comfortable with how things are turning out and you think we're headed down the right path, but if the founders could come back and see what's become of the country, I doubt they'd agree.
  122. @Stonehands
    "...Cultural Marxism is an Alt Right boogeyman...."

    The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the "New left" and feminism.

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy. They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the 'oppressive' order.


    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus--'continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means' as one of their members noted.


    To further the advance of their 'quiet' cultural revolution - but giving us no idea about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):


    1. The creation of racism offenses

    2. Continual change to create confusion

    3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

    4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority

    5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.

    6. The promotion of excessive drinking

    7. Emptying of churches

    8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime

    9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits

    10. Control and dumbing down of media

    11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family
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  123. @Miro23

    "....they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals’ mid-60′s hit’s lyric, “People everywhere just wanna be free!” is hard to top)."
     
    Sam Cooke's "Wonderful World" 1959:

    Don't know much about history
    Don't know much biology
    Don't know much about a science book
    Don't know much about the French I took

    But I do know that I love you
    And I know that if you love me, too
    What a wonderful world this would be

    Don't know much about geography
    Don't know much trigonometry
    Don't know much about algebra
    Don't know what a slide rule is for

    Sam Cooke’s “Wonderful World” 1959:

    And how can we ever forget Nena?

    [MORE]

    Hast Du etwas Zeit für mich
    Dann singe ich ein Lied für Dich
    Von 99 Luftballons
    Auf ihrem Weg zum Horizont

    Denkst Du vielleicht g’rad an mich
    Dann singe ich einen Lied für Dich
    Von 99 Luftballons
    Und dass so was von so was kommt

    99 Luftballons
    Auf ihrem Weg zum Horizont
    Hielt man für UFOs aus dem All
    Darum schickte eine General

    ‘Ne Fliegerstaffel hinterher
    Alarm zu geben, wenn es so wär
    Dabei war’n da am Horizont
    Nur 99 Luftballons

    99 Düsenflieger
    Jeder war ein großer Krieger
    Hielten sich für Captain Kirk
    Es gab ein großes Feuerwerk

    Die Nachbarn haben nichts gerafft
    Und fühlten sich gleich angemacht
    Dabei schoss man am Horizont
    Auf 99 Luftballons

    99 Kriegsminister
    Streichholz und Benzinkanister
    Hielten sich für schlaue Leute
    Witterten schon fette Beute

    Riefen, Krieg und wollten Macht
    Mann, wer hätte das gedacht
    Dass es einmal soweit kommt
    Wegen 99 Luftballons

    Wegen 99 Luftballons
    99 Luftballons

    99 Jahre Krieg
    Ließen keinen Platz für Sieger
    Kriegsminister gibt’s nicht mehr
    Und auch keine Düsenflieger

    Heute zieh’ ich meine Runden
    Seh die Welt in Trümmern liegen
    Hab ‘n Luftballon gefunden
    Denk’ an Dich und lass’ ihn fliegen

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  124. @Auntie Analogue
    Solid comment, my dear Stonehands.

    You seemed to overlook that the Frankfurt School's means of converting the masses to its Marxist line was to take over the culture.

    Communists and socialists such as Alan Lomax and Pete Seeger purported to collect and catalogue folk tales and folk music, when what they and others of his ilk actually did was to cherry-pick the rich veins of American folk culture (and foreign cultures) for elements that the Left could use to sell Leftism to the masses. The late 1950's-early 1960's folk music rage came from college kids who'd been indoctrinated by the Marcuse gang of professors - they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals' mid-60's hit's lyric, "People everywhere just wanna be free!" is hard to top).

    Soon thereafter the Left's effort to take over the culture actually did take over - it completely Left-politicized - rock and pop, Broadway and Hollywood, and even today's news media and local/state/national politics. The Frankfurt School understood that marinating the masses in pop culture iterations of Marxism was a superb method of indoctrination, far superior to the Orwellian "boot stamping on a human face." This takeover has been so successful that, with the full support or unwillingness of today's boomer professoriate, today's college campuses are now pestholes of radical Left speech codes and "safe spaces," which are the predictable outcome of mass-marination in Marxist-based pop culture.

    At this point the culture is utterly dominated by the successful Frankfurt School takeover (Broadway's Hamilton, for instance). Leftist cultural dominance forms the most massive and redoubtable obstacle to any effort to return to the much more empirical system & culture that had prevailed until the Frankfurt School up-ended it all.

    By my best lights, I consider that Winston Churchill understood all of that: "[T]he whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science."

    You seemed to overlook that the Frankfurt School’s means of converting the masses to its Marxist line was to take over the culture.

    Jeeze, wid all dem dere mean nasty guys controlling our national spirit — that deep-down inviolate Americanism that springs eternal from our draft-dodging butts — it’s amazing we didn’t just wet our goddamn pants on a daily basis, huh, Auntie?

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  125. @Auntie Analogue
    Solid comment, my dear Stonehands.

    You seemed to overlook that the Frankfurt School's means of converting the masses to its Marxist line was to take over the culture.

    Communists and socialists such as Alan Lomax and Pete Seeger purported to collect and catalogue folk tales and folk music, when what they and others of his ilk actually did was to cherry-pick the rich veins of American folk culture (and foreign cultures) for elements that the Left could use to sell Leftism to the masses. The late 1950's-early 1960's folk music rage came from college kids who'd been indoctrinated by the Marcuse gang of professors - they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems (for Blank Slate/One World/Soft-Marxist pop the Rascals' mid-60's hit's lyric, "People everywhere just wanna be free!" is hard to top).

    Soon thereafter the Left's effort to take over the culture actually did take over - it completely Left-politicized - rock and pop, Broadway and Hollywood, and even today's news media and local/state/national politics. The Frankfurt School understood that marinating the masses in pop culture iterations of Marxism was a superb method of indoctrination, far superior to the Orwellian "boot stamping on a human face." This takeover has been so successful that, with the full support or unwillingness of today's boomer professoriate, today's college campuses are now pestholes of radical Left speech codes and "safe spaces," which are the predictable outcome of mass-marination in Marxist-based pop culture.

    At this point the culture is utterly dominated by the successful Frankfurt School takeover (Broadway's Hamilton, for instance). Leftist cultural dominance forms the most massive and redoubtable obstacle to any effort to return to the much more empirical system & culture that had prevailed until the Frankfurt School up-ended it all.

    By my best lights, I consider that Winston Churchill understood all of that: "[T]he whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science."

    collect and catalogue folk tales and folk music, when what they and others of his ilk actually did was to cherry-pick the rich veins of American folk culture (and foreign cultures) for elements that the Left could use to sell Leftism to the masses. The late 1950′s-early 1960′s folk music rage came from college kids who’d been indoctrinated by the Marcuse gang of professors – they played those cherry-picked folk songs, often changing their lyrics to express, communicate, and inculcate Leftist nostrums; and they also wrote and performed a blizzard of their own Leftist anthems

    and they’re at it today more than ever

    Hanna Montana’s trajectory from all American little girl into world-class skank was no accident

    pop “culture” today is a septic tank, only it works in reverse, and the sewage is pumped from the tank into the souls of the children

    this guy

    http://dudye.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Jay-Z11.jpg

    and his wife

    https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Beyonce_Black_Panthers_rtr_img.jpg

    are America’s pop royalty, and they’re treated like royalty at the White House

    we’ve come a long way from the America of Normal Rockwell paintings, and none of that was by accident or just a natural transformation based on the market. Every single bit of it was carefully orchestrated.

    here they’re gloating

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201305/white-middle-age-suicide-in-america-skyrockets

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  126. @Miro23
    Explanation: When the US came up with the Iraq WMD story you accepted it. When the US killed 100.000's Iraqi civilians "by mistake" you accepted it, when the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth risked their careers to bring you the government lies about 9/11 you rejected them . Please take your physics, calculus and violin and clear off.

    Explanation: When the US came up with the Iraq WMD story you accepted it.

    No, I didn’t.

    When the US killed 100.000′s Iraqi civilians “by mistake” you accepted it,

    No, I didn’t.

    when the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth risked their careers to bring you the government lies about 9/11 you rejected them .

    No, I didn’t. Sensing a theme here? For someone who doesn’t know me, you … yeah, you really don’t know me, do you?

    Please take your physics, calculus and violin and clear off.

    Request denied.

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    The full sentence and Oleguys reply was;

    “We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care. ”

    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.
     
    I have to take back what I said. You are pursuing a peaceful, civilized life but do also care about future generations.

    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don't care. They are leaving behind a divided, de-industrializing and warmongering country full of debt, which is very strange, since their own parents worked hard to provide them with an economically sound and successful country full of opportunities.
  127. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Yes, that’s a great point. Because, as we all know, the founding fathers were aerospace engineers who were in the business of preparing for future space expeditions.
     
    Exactly. And, as we all know, the founding fathers were all slaveholders who wrote extensive theories on the ethical values of slavery and productivity from slavery.

    Climb it, Pete. Climate, too, as the founding fathers planned for climate change.

    Obviously, but I’m not seeing how you think this is relevant to my point in any way. Is the country moving in a better direction now that blacks have increasing power over the pop culture and the politics of the country? Are things better now that blacks are becoming immune from criticism in the mainstream media? Are we making progress now that blacks have begun to steer the country into whichever direction their hearts’ desire? Perhaps you’re comfortable with how things are turning out and you think we’re headed down the right path, but if the founders could come back and see what’s become of the country, I doubt they’d agree.

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    Obviously, but I’m not seeing how you think this is relevant to my point in any way.
     

    you think we’re headed down the right path, but if the founders could come back and see what’s become of the country, I doubt they’d agree.
     
    And I don't care what the Founders would think if they came back. It's my country now.

    Is the country moving in a better direction now that blacks have increasing power over the pop culture and the politics of the country?
     
    No.

    Are things better now that blacks are becoming immune from criticism in the mainstream media?
     
    No.

    Are we making progress now that blacks have begun to steer the country into whichever direction their hearts’ desire?
     
    No. And the answer is NOT to appeal to what the Founders would think. The first step to an "answer" is to organize, plan, and act on that plan. There's way too much pussy-footing going on here. Get ready to step into the center of the ring and punch. There's no future to sitting in the pit and taking side bets.
  128. @Pierrej
    Obviously, but I'm not seeing how you think this is relevant to my point in any way. Is the country moving in a better direction now that blacks have increasing power over the pop culture and the politics of the country? Are things better now that blacks are becoming immune from criticism in the mainstream media? Are we making progress now that blacks have begun to steer the country into whichever direction their hearts' desire? Perhaps you're comfortable with how things are turning out and you think we're headed down the right path, but if the founders could come back and see what's become of the country, I doubt they'd agree.

    Obviously, but I’m not seeing how you think this is relevant to my point in any way.

    you think we’re headed down the right path, but if the founders could come back and see what’s become of the country, I doubt they’d agree.

    And I don’t care what the Founders would think if they came back. It’s my country now.

    Is the country moving in a better direction now that blacks have increasing power over the pop culture and the politics of the country?

    No.

    Are things better now that blacks are becoming immune from criticism in the mainstream media?

    No.

    Are we making progress now that blacks have begun to steer the country into whichever direction their hearts’ desire?

    No. And the answer is NOT to appeal to what the Founders would think. The first step to an “answer” is to organize, plan, and act on that plan. There’s way too much pussy-footing going on here. Get ready to step into the center of the ring and punch. There’s no future to sitting in the pit and taking side bets.

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    Well, it's nice that you want to preach to me your little "game plan" and all, but again, it's completely irrelevant to my original point. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
  129. @Reactionary Utopian

    Explanation: When the US came up with the Iraq WMD story you accepted it.
     
    No, I didn't.

    When the US killed 100.000′s Iraqi civilians “by mistake” you accepted it,
     
    No, I didn't.

    when the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth risked their careers to bring you the government lies about 9/11 you rejected them .
     
    No, I didn't. Sensing a theme here? For someone who doesn't know me, you ... yeah, you really don't know me, do you?

    Please take your physics, calculus and violin and clear off.
     
    Request denied.

    The full sentence and Oleguys reply was;

    “We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care. ”

    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.

    I have to take back what I said. You are pursuing a peaceful, civilized life but do also care about future generations.

    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don’t care. They are leaving behind a divided, de-industrializing and warmongering country full of debt, which is very strange, since their own parents worked hard to provide them with an economically sound and successful country full of opportunities.

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    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don’t care.
     
    I was born in '46. I could write a lot of words on that.

    Short version is that life has taught me that men cannot control even a small fraction of the things they think they (can/might) control. Perhaps you confuse "don't care" with the fact that we have learned not to worry about things we cannot control.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don’t care. They are leaving behind a divided, de-industrializing and warmongering country full of debt, which is very strange, since their own parents worked hard to provide them with an economically sound and successful country full of opportunities.
     
    Hmmmm.....earlier today, I cared a little. It's almost dinnertime, and now I don't care.

    My parents did not work hard to provide me and later generations with "an economically sound and successful country full of opportunities." Now, I know that perception is bandied about, and some accept it as gospel, but it's bullshit. My father worked to provide himself and family with a home, possessions, stuff like that. And he provided well for his retirement, which he enjoyed probably as much as I'm enjoying mine. My mother did not work outside the home, but was busy with community and social affairs, etc.

    Anyway, I did the same as my father. No regrets. What my kids inherit, they inherit ... it's enough to be worth inheriting, but 'tain't a lottery win.

    And Millenials are pissing and moaning that we didn't hand you a future of indolence and video games, free? Go get it, lads! Quit bitching and get the fuck to work.
  130. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Obviously, but I’m not seeing how you think this is relevant to my point in any way.
     

    you think we’re headed down the right path, but if the founders could come back and see what’s become of the country, I doubt they’d agree.
     
    And I don't care what the Founders would think if they came back. It's my country now.

    Is the country moving in a better direction now that blacks have increasing power over the pop culture and the politics of the country?
     
    No.

    Are things better now that blacks are becoming immune from criticism in the mainstream media?
     
    No.

    Are we making progress now that blacks have begun to steer the country into whichever direction their hearts’ desire?
     
    No. And the answer is NOT to appeal to what the Founders would think. The first step to an "answer" is to organize, plan, and act on that plan. There's way too much pussy-footing going on here. Get ready to step into the center of the ring and punch. There's no future to sitting in the pit and taking side bets.

    Well, it’s nice that you want to preach to me your little “game plan” and all, but again, it’s completely irrelevant to my original point. You’re just arguing for the sake of arguing.

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    Well, it’s nice that you want to preach to me your little “game plan” and all, but again, it’s completely irrelevant to my original point. You’re just arguing for the sake of arguing.
     
    And your objection to that would be what? No, I made a very fine point (guilty), which was rather trivial, admittedly. Uh... how about a "Well, goddamn, that'll never happen again!"

    But, it will. ;-)
  131. @Miro23
    The full sentence and Oleguys reply was;

    “We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care. ”

    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.
     
    I have to take back what I said. You are pursuing a peaceful, civilized life but do also care about future generations.

    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don't care. They are leaving behind a divided, de-industrializing and warmongering country full of debt, which is very strange, since their own parents worked hard to provide them with an economically sound and successful country full of opportunities.

    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don’t care.

    I was born in ’46. I could write a lot of words on that.

    Short version is that life has taught me that men cannot control even a small fraction of the things they think they (can/might) control. Perhaps you confuse “don’t care” with the fact that we have learned not to worry about things we cannot control.

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    Perhaps you confuse “don’t care” with the fact that we have learned not to worry about things we cannot control.
     
    Of course, there is also a bunch who are just oblivious to what is going on.
  132. @Pierrej
    Well, it's nice that you want to preach to me your little "game plan" and all, but again, it's completely irrelevant to my original point. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

    Well, it’s nice that you want to preach to me your little “game plan” and all, but again, it’s completely irrelevant to my original point. You’re just arguing for the sake of arguing.

    And your objection to that would be what? No, I made a very fine point (guilty), which was rather trivial, admittedly. Uh… how about a “Well, goddamn, that’ll never happen again!”

    But, it will. ;-)

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    You seem to lack basic reading comprehension. I responded to a comment from someone who was implying that the Founders of America had planned for America to eventually be maintained by non-whites. I pointed out that this wasn't really the case; certainly not so, in the case of blacks. They never believed America could be maintained by blacks, and they never thought everyone would eventually be insane enough to let blacks take over. Now we're at a point where everyone seems to think blacks can maintain a first world country just fine.

    I'm not that interested in what your personal opinions of the founding fathers are. Nor do I care how relevant you think their views should be in contemporary society. You know what they say about opinions.

    No, I made a very fine point (guilty),
     
    Yes. You demonstrated that you get bent out of shape at the thought that other people might ponder whether Mr. Jefferson would think it is a good idea to let blacks take over the country which he helped found. Then, you shared your detailless, child-like plan for how to fix America. Are there any other good points that I'm missing?
  133. @another fred

    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don’t care.
     
    I was born in '46. I could write a lot of words on that.

    Short version is that life has taught me that men cannot control even a small fraction of the things they think they (can/might) control. Perhaps you confuse "don't care" with the fact that we have learned not to worry about things we cannot control.

    Perhaps you confuse “don’t care” with the fact that we have learned not to worry about things we cannot control.

    Of course, there is also a bunch who are just oblivious to what is going on.

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  134. @Miro23
    The full sentence and Oleguys reply was;

    “We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don’t care. ”

    With all due respect, that sentence is a perfect encapsulation of the Boomer self-absorption that renders gotterdammerung inevitable.
    Whatever the faults of the Millennials, they did not create the horrendous mess they are doomed to inherit. They did not blow the Family Heritage- we, to our eternal shame, did.
     
    I have to take back what I said. You are pursuing a peaceful, civilized life but do also care about future generations.

    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don't care. They are leaving behind a divided, de-industrializing and warmongering country full of debt, which is very strange, since their own parents worked hard to provide them with an economically sound and successful country full of opportunities.

    However, I still agree with Oldeguy that most Boomers don’t care. They are leaving behind a divided, de-industrializing and warmongering country full of debt, which is very strange, since their own parents worked hard to provide them with an economically sound and successful country full of opportunities.

    Hmmmm…..earlier today, I cared a little. It’s almost dinnertime, and now I don’t care.

    My parents did not work hard to provide me and later generations with “an economically sound and successful country full of opportunities.” Now, I know that perception is bandied about, and some accept it as gospel, but it’s bullshit. My father worked to provide himself and family with a home, possessions, stuff like that. And he provided well for his retirement, which he enjoyed probably as much as I’m enjoying mine. My mother did not work outside the home, but was busy with community and social affairs, etc.

    Anyway, I did the same as my father. No regrets. What my kids inherit, they inherit … it’s enough to be worth inheriting, but ’tain’t a lottery win.

    And Millenials are pissing and moaning that we didn’t hand you a future of indolence and video games, free? Go get it, lads! Quit bitching and get the fuck to work.

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  135. @Corvinus
    "The Frankfort School were a group of Marxist Jewish intellectuals who were responsible for the “New left” and feminism."

    No, the "new left" and "feminism" each derived from a host of political, economic, and cultural factors, which included Jews.

    "Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy."

    No, the Enlightenment and capitalism has challenged the Judaeo-Christian legacy.

    "They called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life to de-stabilize society and destroy what they saw as the ‘oppressive’ order."

    There were oppressive elements in American society, in particular during the Progressive Era. A number of groups sought to make reforms in our institutions. Were you asleep in your American history course?

    They hoped their policies would spread like a virus–’continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means’ as one of their members noted.

    "1. The creation of racism offenses"

    No. This was derived by Jim Crow, which was subsequently removed by Congressional legislation.

    "2. Continual change to create confusion"

    No. American society has at times been in confusion over the roles of its citizens.

    "3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children"

    The teaching of sex has been a parental responsibility. Homosexuality is not "taught", it's in born.

    "4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority"

    Wait, educators are important? Today? Could have fooled me.

    "5. Huge immigration to destroy identity."

    America's identity is immigration.

    "6. The promotion of excessive drinking"

    That is a cultural phenomenon. Talk to the Irish and Germans.

    "7. Emptying of churches"

    A number of reasons are in play here for pews being empty.

    "8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime"

    Our legal system, warts and all, is considered one of the best in the world.

    "9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits"

    I'll give you one there.

    "10. Control and dumbing down of media"

    They don't need "Cultural Marxists" for that!

    "11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family"

    Again, a host of factors here--divorce, emphasis on materialism, lack of faith in God.

    “…No, the “new left” and “feminism” each derived from a host of political, economic, and cultural factors, which included Jews….”

    But… The Frankfurt School were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse, Horkheimer, et al.
    You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the Frankfurt School with weak semantic tricks of deflection.

    “….No, the Enlightenment and capitalism has challenged the Judaeo-Christian legacy….”

    Funny… I thought we were talking about a cultural attack on the pillars of western civilization that took place in the 1960′s- not the 16- 1700′s!

    “…Homosexuality is not “taught”, it’s in born….”

    Two of the nation’s most distinguished experts on mental health recently published a major study contradicting what our cultural elites have been telling us about sexuality.

    The report, “Sexuality and Gender: Findings from the Biological, Psychological, and Social Sciences,” is co-authored by Dr. Lawrence Mayer and Dr. Paul McHugh. Mayer is a scholar-in-residence in the Department of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University and a professor of statistics and biostatistics at Arizona State University.

    Here is the executive summary:

    Part One: Sexual Orientation

    ● The understanding of sexual orientation as an innate, biologically fixed property of human beings — the idea that people are “born that way” — is not supported by scientific evidence.

    Here are the works, the “fruit” of your truly calamitous, dilapidated secular humanism/Marxism that you subtly promote through your phony moral philanthropy…

    Fistgate III:

    Obama’s Safe Schools Czar’s [Kevin Jennings] ‘Black Book’ For Kids Included Tips on Fisting and Pi$$ing on Your Partner

    Barack Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” was the keynote speaker at the GLSEN/Boston Conference at Tufts University. High school students at the conference learned about fisting and watersports from the GLSEN activists.

    Jesus taught about not hindering others to the kingdom, specifically children. He also said that if you do instill depravity in children, it would be better that you have a millstone tied around your neck and you be cast into the sea.

    There is no such thing as “straight”. You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna [blow jobs for votes..]

    Which leads us to…

    “…Our legal system, warts and all, is considered one of the best in the world….”

    Not any more my friend! Have you been in Anonymous Smith’s isolation tank for the last 8 years or what!!! I am not even going to count the ways…you are truly naive or the laughing stock of the internet!

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    "But… The Frankfurt School were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse, Horkheimer, et al. You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the Frankfurt School with weak semantic tricks of deflection."

    It is observably true that the New Left and feminism are separate creations by Jews and non-Jews. Your fixation on Jews is duly noted.

    “….No, the Enlightenment and capitalism has challenged the Judaeo-Christian legacy….”

    Few Americans refer to western civilization, they refer to American civilization. Furthermore, the principles derived from the Enlightenment and capitalism directly came into conflict with the Judaeo-Christian legacy; thus, the political, economic, and social strife we have today.

    "The report, “Sexuality and Gender: Findings from the Biological, Psychological, and Social Sciences,” is co-authored by Dr. Lawrence Mayer and Dr. Paul McHugh. Mayer is a scholar-in-residence in the Department of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University and a professor of statistics and biostatistics at Arizona State University."

    McHugh and Mayer are at odds with the positions of major physicians’ associations.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/23/the-right-s-favorite-anti-lgbt-doctor-strikes-again.html

    "There is no such thing as “straight”. You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna [blow jobs for votes..]"

    Then using your rationale, Donald Trump is a pervert.

  136. @geokat62

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy.
     
    My understanding of the task of the FS is slightly different than yours:

    The question that has to be asked is: who is responsible for promoting Political Correctness (PC)?

    The brain-trust behind the promotion of PC is the Frankfurt School. The FS identified nationalism as the root cause of the holocaust. To ensure that another holocaust never occurred again, the FS prescribed cultural Marxism (better known as Political Correctness) as the antidote to nationalism.

    Theodor W. Adorno, a leading member of the Frankfurt School of critical theory, wrote The Authoritarian Personality in 1950. In it, Adorno invented a set of criteria by which to define personality traits, ranking them on what he called the ‘Fascist scale’.

    Here’s how one observer characterized the book’s goal:

    [it] was to eliminate antisemitism by “subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective psychotherapy — by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
     

    Auntie- I posted up some broad comments about the Frankfurt’s- and looked forward to additional information from the quick- witted commentariat…Of course it’s all about the culture- thanks for this input!

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  137. @geokat62

    Basically, the task of the Frankfurt School was to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy.
     
    My understanding of the task of the FS is slightly different than yours:

    The question that has to be asked is: who is responsible for promoting Political Correctness (PC)?

    The brain-trust behind the promotion of PC is the Frankfurt School. The FS identified nationalism as the root cause of the holocaust. To ensure that another holocaust never occurred again, the FS prescribed cultural Marxism (better known as Political Correctness) as the antidote to nationalism.

    Theodor W. Adorno, a leading member of the Frankfurt School of critical theory, wrote The Authoritarian Personality in 1950. In it, Adorno invented a set of criteria by which to define personality traits, ranking them on what he called the ‘Fascist scale’.

    Here’s how one observer characterized the book’s goal:

    [it] was to eliminate antisemitism by “subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective psychotherapy — by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
     

    Yup….and…

    Henry Makow has written extensively on the spiritual component of this broad attack on the pillars of Western Civilization.

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  138. It’s not a question of if murica will end but when and how. Thanks to mass third world immigration (including from Fred’s beloved Mexico), the formerly 90% white republic has degenerated into a multiracial mobocracy where every race except whites are clawing for dominance. And like the former Yugoslavia it requires a police state engaged in widespread spying and very willing to use lethal force to maintain a semblance of peace among the disparate ethnic, racial and religious groups. But this can’t last forever.

    The USSA is now an empire since it benefits Israel and has been for decades. But empires die and we are no exception to that rule.

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  139. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Well, it’s nice that you want to preach to me your little “game plan” and all, but again, it’s completely irrelevant to my original point. You’re just arguing for the sake of arguing.
     
    And your objection to that would be what? No, I made a very fine point (guilty), which was rather trivial, admittedly. Uh... how about a "Well, goddamn, that'll never happen again!"

    But, it will. ;-)

    You seem to lack basic reading comprehension. I responded to a comment from someone who was implying that the Founders of America had planned for America to eventually be maintained by non-whites. I pointed out that this wasn’t really the case; certainly not so, in the case of blacks. They never believed America could be maintained by blacks, and they never thought everyone would eventually be insane enough to let blacks take over. Now we’re at a point where everyone seems to think blacks can maintain a first world country just fine.

    I’m not that interested in what your personal opinions of the founding fathers are. Nor do I care how relevant you think their views should be in contemporary society. You know what they say about opinions.

    No, I made a very fine point (guilty),

    Yes. You demonstrated that you get bent out of shape at the thought that other people might ponder whether Mr. Jefferson would think it is a good idea to let blacks take over the country which he helped found. Then, you shared your detailless, child-like plan for how to fix America. Are there any other good points that I’m missing?

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    Are there any other good points that I’m missing?
     
    Yes.
  140. @Pierrej
    You seem to lack basic reading comprehension. I responded to a comment from someone who was implying that the Founders of America had planned for America to eventually be maintained by non-whites. I pointed out that this wasn't really the case; certainly not so, in the case of blacks. They never believed America could be maintained by blacks, and they never thought everyone would eventually be insane enough to let blacks take over. Now we're at a point where everyone seems to think blacks can maintain a first world country just fine.

    I'm not that interested in what your personal opinions of the founding fathers are. Nor do I care how relevant you think their views should be in contemporary society. You know what they say about opinions.

    No, I made a very fine point (guilty),
     
    Yes. You demonstrated that you get bent out of shape at the thought that other people might ponder whether Mr. Jefferson would think it is a good idea to let blacks take over the country which he helped found. Then, you shared your detailless, child-like plan for how to fix America. Are there any other good points that I'm missing?

    Are there any other good points that I’m missing?

    Yes.

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  141. @Stonehands
    "...No, the “new left” and “feminism” each derived from a host of political, economic, and cultural factors, which included Jews...."

    But... The Frankfurt School were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse, Horkheimer, et al.
    You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the Frankfurt School with weak semantic tricks of deflection.

    "....No, the Enlightenment and capitalism has challenged the Judaeo-Christian legacy...."


    Funny... I thought we were talking about a cultural attack on the pillars of western civilization that took place in the 1960's- not the 16- 1700's!


    "...Homosexuality is not “taught”, it’s in born...."




    Two of the nation’s most distinguished experts on mental health recently published a major study contradicting what our cultural elites have been telling us about sexuality.

    The report, “Sexuality and Gender: Findings from the Biological, Psychological, and Social Sciences,” is co-authored by Dr. Lawrence Mayer and Dr. Paul McHugh. Mayer is a scholar-in-residence in the Department of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University and a professor of statistics and biostatistics at Arizona State University.

    Here is the executive summary:

    Part One: Sexual Orientation

    ● The understanding of sexual orientation as an innate, biologically fixed property of human beings — the idea that people are “born that way” — is not supported by scientific evidence.

    Here are the works, the "fruit" of your truly calamitous, dilapidated secular humanism/Marxism that you subtly promote through your phony moral philanthropy...

    Fistgate III:

    Obama's Safe Schools Czar's [Kevin Jennings] 'Black Book' For Kids Included Tips on Fisting and Pi$$ing on Your Partner

    Barack Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” was the keynote speaker at the GLSEN/Boston Conference at Tufts University. High school students at the conference learned about fisting and watersports from the GLSEN activists.

    Jesus taught about not hindering others to the kingdom, specifically children. He also said that if you do instill depravity in children, it would be better that you have a millstone tied around your neck and you be cast into the sea.

    There is no such thing as "straight". You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna [blow jobs for votes..]

    Which leads us to...

    "...Our legal system, warts and all, is considered one of the best in the world...."

    Not any more my friend! Have you been in Anonymous Smith's isolation tank for the last 8 years or what!!! I am not even going to count the ways...you are truly naive or the laughing stock of the internet!

    “But… The Frankfurt School were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse, Horkheimer, et al. You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the Frankfurt School with weak semantic tricks of deflection.”

    It is observably true that the New Left and feminism are separate creations by Jews and non-Jews. Your fixation on Jews is duly noted.

    “….No, the Enlightenment and capitalism has challenged the Judaeo-Christian legacy….”

    Few Americans refer to western civilization, they refer to American civilization. Furthermore, the principles derived from the Enlightenment and capitalism directly came into conflict with the Judaeo-Christian legacy; thus, the political, economic, and social strife we have today.

    “The report, “Sexuality and Gender: Findings from the Biological, Psychological, and Social Sciences,” is co-authored by Dr. Lawrence Mayer and Dr. Paul McHugh. Mayer is a scholar-in-residence in the Department of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University and a professor of statistics and biostatistics at Arizona State University.”

    McHugh and Mayer are at odds with the positions of major physicians’ associations.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/23/the-right-s-favorite-anti-lgbt-doctor-strikes-again.html

    “There is no such thing as “straight”. You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna [blow jobs for votes..]”

    Then using your rationale, Donald Trump is a pervert.

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  142. “..

    .It is observably true that the New Left and feminism are separate creations by Jews and non-Jews. Your fixation on Jews is duly noted…”

    I will repeat louder: The FRANKFURT SCHOOL were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse,
    Horkheimer, et al. You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the FRANKFURT SCHOOL.

    You don’t “duly note” anything with how I regard the Jews…I have written and staked out my positions extensively with regards to who is ultimately culpable for the disaster unfolding here.

    There is no such thing as “straight”. You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna
    [blow jobs for votes..]”

    Then using your rationale, Donald Trump is a pervert.

    If anything Donald Trump is courageous… you OTH are a yapping, unfruitful leftist.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I will repeat louder..."

    Just because you raise your voice does not mean I am incorrect in my assessment.

    "The FRANKFURT SCHOOL were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse,
    Horkheimer, et al. You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the FRANKFURT SCHOOL."

    No, I am correctly stating that liberalism and feminism are NOT the exclusive creation of the Frankfort School.

    "You don’t “duly note” anything with how I regard the Jews…I have written and staked out my positions extensively with regards to who is ultimately culpable for the disaster unfolding here."

    Right, Jews. Your emphasis on what is entirely wrong with America has been acknowledged.

    "There is no such thing as “straight”. You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna
    [blow jobs for votes..]”

    Again, based on YOUR own logic, the conduct of Madonna and Donald Trump are similar in nature. Both got divorced, have engaged in what some people call deviant sexual activities, and are narcissistic. Do these facts escape you?
  143. @John Jeremiah Smith

    “Hillary be be elected”
     
    I wrote "Hillary will be elected." Explain to me how a 40-year Mensa member can't fucking cut-and-paste as good as a six-year old.

    I simply detest assholes who make such a statement. There is something rotten and depraved about a person who relishes such a scenario, and if they didn’t relish it they wouldn’t say it.
     
    I simply detest assholes who claim to be Mensa, but can't spell, can't write, can't express a concept in declarative sentences. Can't parse a statement and accurately extract content, can't do anything but kvetch like a little Jew-bitch.

    [Improve your behavior or more of your comments may get trashed:
    http://www.unz.com/announcement/over-one-million-comments-but-some-badly-behaving-commenters/ ]

    Okay how can I put this in simplistic terms so that you, low IQ being that you are, can understand it :

    “Spelling”, syntax “declarative sentences” “parsing statements” this is all fucking subjective, and based upon AGREEMENTS and there are no ” natural” laws, no “right and wrong” laws defining these language elements as such.

    You are operating under the false principle that there are “right and wrong” ways to communicate , and this it exactly what all of the BS artist “Experts” “Professors” have brainwashed you into
    believing, and due to your low intelligence you fucking believe this crap.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member since 1973, and pro jazz performer.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    You are operating under the false principle that there are “right and wrong” ways to communicate
     
    Nope. There are, in point of fact, right and wrong ways to communicate. However, it's been so long since I had any contact with a Menses person that I had forgotten what fools they be -- immature, insecure, inadequate prancing pansies.

    You are Ignored.
  144. @cane toad
    I would not blame this entirely on women, cultural Marxism is a much bigger problem, gaining power as young people are brainwashed in school and by social media to accept their own decline and demise. This country was founded by religious fanatics and planters. None of them rocket scientists. It's in our gene pool apparently to succumb to irrational ideologies. Punishing ideologies. We are plagued by Calvinists, whether they realize that is what they are or not. Suffering is good! They live to make others suffer. Hobbes is our intellectual founder. Succeed or die. Suffering is good. For other people. People are not capable of deciding their own fate unless they are elites. And look what a great job they've done. Yet they still love themselves. No women are not the problem but they are certainly a big part of it. Many women have serious self-esteem problems and are clinically nuts. I am a woman but I would never vote for Hillary, I don't care if our leader is a woman, it makes no difference at all.

    I agree that the US has had a tradition of religious cults but the problem isn’t confined to the US. Cultural Marxism has taken hold in many Western white countries and women are often, from opinion polls I’ve seen, more in alignment with it than are men.

    But really it is feminism more than the average woman that provides the shock troops for Cultural Marxism. Almost any cause that harms the traditions of the country and leads to ethnic and cultural cleansing of the country has feminists at the forefront. You can really see this in the open borders migrant mess. Feminists whine about rape culture and the patriarchy then are at the forefront of bringing in the most rapey and patriarchal group of men on the planet: Muslims. Then, if that wasn’t bad enough, they are at the forefront of covering up Muslims’ crimes against women. Pure nuts.

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  145. @SFG
    No, I honestly missed that. I never got that worked up over that issue.

    Point taken. Some are. The capital of Israel is Tel Aviv. The only people considering moving an embassy to Jerusalem are dangerous lunatics in the USA.

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  146. @authenticjazzman
    [Improve your behavior or more of your comments may get trashed:
    http://www.unz.com/announcement/over-one-million-comments-but-some-badly-behaving-commenters/ ]


    Okay how can I put this in simplistic terms so that you, low IQ being that you are, can understand it :

    "Spelling", syntax "declarative sentences" "parsing statements" this is all fucking subjective, and based upon AGREEMENTS and there are no " natural" laws, no "right and wrong" laws defining these language elements as such.

    You are operating under the false principle that there are "right and wrong" ways to communicate , and this it exactly what all of the BS artist "Experts" "Professors" have brainwashed you into
    believing, and due to your low intelligence you fucking believe this crap.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member since 1973, and pro jazz performer.

    You are operating under the false principle that there are “right and wrong” ways to communicate

    Nope. There are, in point of fact, right and wrong ways to communicate. However, it’s been so long since I had any contact with a Menses person that I had forgotten what fools they be — immature, insecure, inadequate prancing pansies.

    You are Ignored.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    "There are, in point of fact , right and wrong ways to communicate"

    Okay so where can one access these "right and wrong" ways to communicate, other than in books written by so-called "experts" and "authorities".
    And perhaps you are a worshiper of authorities and experts, I am not.

    What you are saying, apparently without knowing, is that we unwashed serfs simply must, whether we like it or not, adhere to the "rules" passed down to us by the "Authorities" and "Experts", by six-figure over-compensated, BS artist "Professors".

    Just where the can I find, within the context of natural laws, a summary of the "right and wrong" ways to communicate.

    Myself being an IMPROVISING MUSICIAN, a so-called Jazz artist, can state that music is a profound form of communication, and there are absulutely no "right" or "wrong" ways of creating music, and if a music artist would have " right" or " wrong" ways of "Communicating" imposed upon him/herself he/she would not be able to create his/her music period,
    and I am assuming that you will not be able to comprehend this axiom.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty years plus.
  147. @WorkingClass
    You're right Fred. It's over for the Republic. It's over for American society. It's been over for awhile. And now it's over for the Empire. Post imperial America will not be anything like post war America. It will be a horrible mess. You can take that as justification for your own nihilism. But your proselytizing is in poor taste. Men of good will work for the good when they are winning and when they are losing. Electing Trump will not prevent the crash. Nothing can prevent the crash. But electing Trump, whether he is allowed to take office or not, is a step in the right direction.

    “Nothing can prevent the crash. But electing Trump, whether he is allowed to take office or not, is a step in the right direction.”

    Agree. As Anthony Trollope, in one of his parliamentary novels, wrote:
    “The best carriage horses are those which can most steadily hold back against the coach as it trundles down the hill.”

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  148. Excellent piece. I’ve told my adult sons that I don’t worry since I’ll be dead soon. They are the ones getting royally screwed. I will die happy knowing that my sons are readers, learned how to think for themselves, and can defend themselves.

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  149. @Anonymous

    More fun in the Indispensable Nation
     
    Please don't talk like a Supremacist (Suprematists would be better, maybe).
    We all know the Indispensable Nations are two, one is Mexico, the other is you-know-which.

    Give her credit for consistency. She is always mendacious, firmly in the pockets of Wall Street, Israel, the Neocon hawks, and the arms industry
     
    Of Saudi Arabia too. And I recently read they got money also from Russia (google "Clinton Russia uranium").

    This said, you are writing terrifyingly well. There's something in this piece I don't know how to define, perhaps a... cutting sincerity, that really impressed me.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost. Once broken, the chain cannot be repaired.

    It is over. Putrefaction is irreversible, either by Ronald or Lucretia.

    The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it. Impunity, normal in Guatemala, allows corruption to go unpunished. Think sub-prime.
     
    All columnists are telling Unz readers there realities, and most of Unz readers already know them.
    One comes here everyday to rob himself the curiosity of how this small group of very sharp-witted people will reword the same. Sincerity is so rare that the articles restating and restating the same never get boresome.

    Yet there's something no-one dares to tell: that destiny is destiny, life is a cycle, and that subjection to destiny and cyclicity regard countries, cultures, civilizations as they do each of us.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost.
     
    I see most of the over 50 completely oblivious of this fact: they seem more hopeful, if not optimistic, and combatant than the young.
    I think what misdirects them is they aren't in touch with the young people. They don't read the forums and blogs where the young people comments. They haven't visited a campus for decades and have no idea what things are like now (such an episode is the subject of a most touching, veiledly autobiographic, chapter of I am Charlotte Simmons).

    This is why they hope.

    I was in the company of some 40-and-something-year-old English teachers -- all women, that goes without saying --, someone brought up the subject of the comparative of "stupid" saying she couldn't believe some students were so ignorant they thought it was possible to write "stupidest", while the rule everybody knows says it must be "more stupid".

    I tried to object to that and tell them the complete rule and how there is nothing wrong with "stupider" at all, and they were, well, shook. One or two mocked me for my ignorance (you don't know disyllables always get the "more" in front of them. The others chose to be civil and conceal their shock at my ignorance.

    ...

    A look at school, at the students and, no less, the teachers, tells us all we need to know.
    They don't even know the great things behind us.

    Mention Thomas Gray to them, to the teachers of English I mean, and see if we are still a country or not.

    So, thanks for the courage not to wear an optimistic mask as if this still were a party.

    Well, I’m sure you know heavy, heavier, heaviest.

    The customary usage had no such rule that those half-educated, semi-literate twats are screaming about.

    The best usage varied with the adjective.

    American middle high-school teachers are responsible for numerous other crimes, ‘never use with’, so we have the idiotic ‘align to’, and many similar.

    One that really grates on me is most current US usage of ‘speaks to’ as the universal substitute for ‘speaks of’, ‘speaks for’, and, indeed, ‘speaks to’, all of which mean different things.

    Another is the tendency to universally postfix adverbs, even in cases where they are more naturally prefixed.

    The basis of that particular idiocy is simply that by doing so nobody is going to OMG split the infinitive as I just did with


    to universally postfix adverbs
    ;

    tell me why that form isn’t the most suitable?

    Offer a better flow? I seriously wonder why I spent so much time studying and reading English, when US education is clearly barbaric on the point.

    Not that the mother version is blameless, singular entities as plural ‘the government are’, ‘the EU are’ etc.

    I think that comes from years of soccer commentators ‘Liverpool are …’.

    Language crimes, all.

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  150. @John Jeremiah Smith

    You are operating under the false principle that there are “right and wrong” ways to communicate
     
    Nope. There are, in point of fact, right and wrong ways to communicate. However, it's been so long since I had any contact with a Menses person that I had forgotten what fools they be -- immature, insecure, inadequate prancing pansies.

    You are Ignored.

    “There are, in point of fact , right and wrong ways to communicate”

    Okay so where can one access these “right and wrong” ways to communicate, other than in books written by so-called “experts” and “authorities”.
    And perhaps you are a worshiper of authorities and experts, I am not.

    What you are saying, apparently without knowing, is that we unwashed serfs simply must, whether we like it or not, adhere to the “rules” passed down to us by the “Authorities” and “Experts”, by six-figure over-compensated, BS artist “Professors”.

    Just where the can I find, within the context of natural laws, a summary of the “right and wrong” ways to communicate.

    Myself being an IMPROVISING MUSICIAN, a so-called Jazz artist, can state that music is a profound form of communication, and there are absulutely no “right” or “wrong” ways of creating music, and if a music artist would have ” right” or ” wrong” ways of “Communicating” imposed upon him/herself he/she would not be able to create his/her music period,
    and I am assuming that you will not be able to comprehend this axiom.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty years plus.

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  151. @dearieme
    "north of 156": really? "Measured"? Then why not tell us the actual number?

    ““north of 156″: really? “Measured”? Then why not tell us the actual number?”

    You, of all people*, should know that 156 is effectively a ceiling score, the hard ceiling being 160 on all the normed tests that don’t have lower ceilings (e.g. WAIS, SB). 156 means hitting hard ceilings on nearly all the subtests, and will be an underestimate of the true score. Not that I believe that Trump actually had that measured score, but I think he might well be that smart. He doesn’t seem much less intelligent than GHWB’s chief of staff John Sununu, who had one of the highest scores on the poorly normed but very hard Mega test for the 1 in 1,000,000 Mega society, 180IQ. I have heard that Trump’s vocabulary is much richer in private. His public speaking intentionally (and intelligently) uses a 4th grade vocabulary.

    (*dearieme is a frequent commenter on Dr. James Thompson’s blog on intelligence)

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  152. @Anonymous

    More fun in the Indispensable Nation
     
    Please don't talk like a Supremacist (Suprematists would be better, maybe).
    We all know the Indispensable Nations are two, one is Mexico, the other is you-know-which.

    Give her credit for consistency. She is always mendacious, firmly in the pockets of Wall Street, Israel, the Neocon hawks, and the arms industry
     
    Of Saudi Arabia too. And I recently read they got money also from Russia (google "Clinton Russia uranium").

    This said, you are writing terrifyingly well. There's something in this piece I don't know how to define, perhaps a... cutting sincerity, that really impressed me.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost. Once broken, the chain cannot be repaired.

    It is over. Putrefaction is irreversible, either by Ronald or Lucretia.

    The shift to the economic pattern of the Third World, the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, proceeds apace and there is nothing to do about it. Impunity, normal in Guatemala, allows corruption to go unpunished. Think sub-prime.
     
    All columnists are telling Unz readers there realities, and most of Unz readers already know them.
    One comes here everyday to rob himself the curiosity of how this small group of very sharp-witted people will reword the same. Sincerity is so rare that the articles restating and restating the same never get boresome.

    Yet there's something no-one dares to tell: that destiny is destiny, life is a cycle, and that subjection to destiny and cyclicity regard countries, cultures, civilizations as they do each of us.

    Soon there will be none left who remember what has been lost.
     
    I see most of the over 50 completely oblivious of this fact: they seem more hopeful, if not optimistic, and combatant than the young.
    I think what misdirects them is they aren't in touch with the young people. They don't read the forums and blogs where the young people comments. They haven't visited a campus for decades and have no idea what things are like now (such an episode is the subject of a most touching, veiledly autobiographic, chapter of I am Charlotte Simmons).

    This is why they hope.

    I was in the company of some 40-and-something-year-old English teachers -- all women, that goes without saying --, someone brought up the subject of the comparative of "stupid" saying she couldn't believe some students were so ignorant they thought it was possible to write "stupidest", while the rule everybody knows says it must be "more stupid".

    I tried to object to that and tell them the complete rule and how there is nothing wrong with "stupider" at all, and they were, well, shook. One or two mocked me for my ignorance (you don't know disyllables always get the "more" in front of them. The others chose to be civil and conceal their shock at my ignorance.

    ...

    A look at school, at the students and, no less, the teachers, tells us all we need to know.
    They don't even know the great things behind us.

    Mention Thomas Gray to them, to the teachers of English I mean, and see if we are still a country or not.

    So, thanks for the courage not to wear an optimistic mask as if this still were a party.

    “Stupidest” has ten times more G—le hits than “most stupid”, is used at least three times in OED quotations, and has references going back to the 18th century (an Old Bailey prosecutor, at that). These bovine educatrices seem to think they know how to speak English better than Thomas Carlyle, Joseph Conrad, A.A. Milne or Mark Twain, who all used “stupidest”.

    John McIntyre wrote in the Baltimore Sun regarding a lady’s sniffy complaint to a friend regarding the use of “stupidest”:

    This is too choice a specimen to pass up. It is a classic example of the way the peeververein operate: misinformed assertion, amplified by unreliable information, coupled with a smug assumption that anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant/careless/sloppy/unworthy.

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  153. @Stonehands
    "..

    .It is observably true that the New Left and feminism are separate creations by Jews and non-Jews. Your fixation on Jews is duly noted..."
     
    I will repeat louder: The FRANKFURT SCHOOL were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse,
    Horkheimer, et al. You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the FRANKFURT SCHOOL.

    You don't "duly note" anything with how I regard the Jews...I have written and staked out my positions extensively with regards to who is ultimately culpable for the disaster unfolding here.


    There is no such thing as “straight”. You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna
    [blow jobs for votes..]”

    Then using your rationale, Donald Trump is a pervert.
     
    If anything Donald Trump is courageous... you OTH are a yapping, unfruitful leftist.

    “I will repeat louder…”

    Just because you raise your voice does not mean I am incorrect in my assessment.

    “The FRANKFURT SCHOOL were Marxist Jews: Adorno, Fromm, Marcuse,
    Horkheimer, et al. You are trying to deconstruct the Jewishness of the FRANKFURT SCHOOL.”

    No, I am correctly stating that liberalism and feminism are NOT the exclusive creation of the Frankfort School.

    “You don’t “duly note” anything with how I regard the Jews…I have written and staked out my positions extensively with regards to who is ultimately culpable for the disaster unfolding here.”

    Right, Jews. Your emphasis on what is entirely wrong with America has been acknowledged.

    “There is no such thing as “straight”. You are either Normal, or a pervert like that slut Madonna
    [blow jobs for votes..]”

    Again, based on YOUR own logic, the conduct of Madonna and Donald Trump are similar in nature. Both got divorced, have engaged in what some people call deviant sexual activities, and are narcissistic. Do these facts escape you?

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  154. Again, based on YOUR own logic, the conduct of Madonna and Donald Trump are similar in nature…

    You truly are a sick individual.

    Why don’t didn’t you respond to the mentally ill decision by Obama to appoint that devil Kevin Jennings as “Safe School Czar”.

    Maybe YOU approve of teaching teenagers to ram their fists up each others rectums- but I would venture to say that the majority on Unz would consider you a monster.

    Whether you are Jewish or not is beside the point. You try to accuse me of baseless allegations that “Jews are the problem, always” thereby relieving them of any criticism whatsoever- or even any partial culpability in the Culture wars. I am on record here as excoriating all good people to reject Hollywood values, idiotic idolatry of pro sports and HaHaHa….Talmudvision!
    If Jewish communication execs are at the fore front of this assault- then they will have to suffer the resultant opprobrium

    If you want to hurl anti-semitic accusations have at it. I call a spade a spade. Common sense would have most people prevent this bilge from being pumped into their homes…much less paying for it.

    One more thing.

    You comparing the calumniating of that sodomite Madonna, with the braggadocio of Trump, reveals what a moron you really are.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Maybe YOU approve of teaching teenagers to ram their fists up each others rectums- but I would venture to say that the majority on Unz would consider you a monster."

    It goes without even saying that this is disgusting conduct. Next...

    "Whether you are Jewish or not is beside the point. You try to accuse me of baseless allegations that “Jews are the problem, always” thereby relieving them of any criticism whatsoever- or even any partial culpability in the Culture wars. I am on record here as excoriating all good people to reject Hollywood values, idiotic idolatry of pro sports and HaHaHa….Talmudvision!"

    YOU made the assumption that I exonerated Jews for being in part responsible for "immoral" content. I merely pointed out your fetish for blaming Jews for EVERYTHING.

    Feel free to condemn Hollywood to the hilt. Free free to blame Jews as being part and parcel to the destruction of traditional values. But Americans have the liberty to choose what they want to create and watch. If you have a disdain for popular culture, including sports, wonderful. That is YOUR personal choice.

    "If Jewish communication execs are at the fore front of this assault- then they will have to suffer the resultant opprobrium."

    Communication executives, which include those with Jewish backgrounds, at the forefront of producing material for consumers who, under the banner of the First Amendment, have the right to purchase those materials.

    "You comparing the calumniating of that sodomite Madonna, with the braggadocio of Trump, reveals what a moron you really are."

    Did not Trump cheat on his wife? Does not Trump have a history of sexual misconduct?

    If you are going to be holding people to high moral standards, best you honor those standards rather label such actions as mere "braggadocio". It's telling of your character.

  155. @John Jeremiah Smith

    As far as how goes, the bio weapons will do it.
     
    Unlikely. The bioweapons are unstable beyond one life cycle.

    Which is not really the issue. Those who would release the bioweapons stand to lose more than they could gain. Any real die-off of the worker population puts them at serious risk.

    They are just waiting for nanotech to get to a point where they won’t need us useless eaters. At that point things will end in a whimper as we all turn into puddles of mush as nanobots disassemble us atom by atom.

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  156. @Stonehands

    Again, based on YOUR own logic, the conduct of Madonna and Donald Trump are similar in nature...

     

    You truly are a sick individual.

    Why don't didn't you respond to the mentally ill decision by Obama to appoint that devil Kevin Jennings as "Safe School Czar".

    Maybe YOU approve of teaching teenagers to ram their fists up each others rectums- but I would venture to say that the majority on Unz would consider you a monster.

    Whether you are Jewish or not is beside the point. You try to accuse me of baseless allegations that "Jews are the problem, always" thereby relieving them of any criticism whatsoever- or even any partial culpability in the Culture wars. I am on record here as excoriating all good people to reject Hollywood values, idiotic idolatry of pro sports and HaHaHa....Talmudvision!
    If Jewish communication execs are at the fore front of this assault- then they will have to suffer the resultant opprobrium

    If you want to hurl anti-semitic accusations have at it. I call a spade a spade. Common sense would have most people prevent this bilge from being pumped into their homes...much less paying for it.

    One more thing.

    You comparing the calumniating of that sodomite Madonna, with the braggadocio of Trump, reveals what a moron you really are.

    “Maybe YOU approve of teaching teenagers to ram their fists up each others rectums- but I would venture to say that the majority on Unz would consider you a monster.”

    It goes without even saying that this is disgusting conduct. Next…

    “Whether you are Jewish or not is beside the point. You try to accuse me of baseless allegations that “Jews are the problem, always” thereby relieving them of any criticism whatsoever- or even any partial culpability in the Culture wars. I am on record here as excoriating all good people to reject Hollywood values, idiotic idolatry of pro sports and HaHaHa….Talmudvision!”

    YOU made the assumption that I exonerated Jews for being in part responsible for “immoral” content. I merely pointed out your fetish for blaming Jews for EVERYTHING.

    Feel free to condemn Hollywood to the hilt. Free free to blame Jews as being part and parcel to the destruction of traditional values. But Americans have the liberty to choose what they want to create and watch. If you have a disdain for popular culture, including sports, wonderful. That is YOUR personal choice.

    “If Jewish communication execs are at the fore front of this assault- then they will have to suffer the resultant opprobrium.”

    Communication executives, which include those with Jewish backgrounds, at the forefront of producing material for consumers who, under the banner of the First Amendment, have the right to purchase those materials.

    “You comparing the calumniating of that sodomite Madonna, with the braggadocio of Trump, reveals what a moron you really are.”

    Did not Trump cheat on his wife? Does not Trump have a history of sexual misconduct?

    If you are going to be holding people to high moral standards, best you honor those standards rather label such actions as mere “braggadocio”. It’s telling of your character.

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    I merely pointed out your fetish for blaming Jews for EVERYTHING.
     
    Au contaire, Corvinus.

    I am disliked on these boards by the white nationalists, because I place the blame squarely on white men and women for abandoning the atonal sacrifice of Christ and our societal responsibilities that go with that belief.

    Most Jews are assimilated successfully into American society and their achievements are to be emulated by everyone. [ They value real education above all else].Review my prior comments, before you continue to slander me- it is a cheap trick crying anti- semitism [PC] and people are fed up with it-hence the rise of Trump.


    Feel free to condemn Hollywood to the hilt. Free free to blame Jews as being part and parcel to the destruction of traditional values. But Americans have the liberty to choose what they want to create and watch. If you have a disdain for popular culture, including sports, wonderful. That is YOUR personal choice.
     
    You are overstating the obvious here. This is exactly what I do. I am in a high profile, heavily trafficked, metropolitan tourist area. People can exercise this choice that you speak of- when they also here my side of the story. I also encourage everyone to get outdoors and participate in all manner of sporting activities, not to just be a passive target of propaganda- promulgated through the Corporate CIA Media/Military/Banking Complex.

    Did not Trump cheat on his wife? Does not Trump have a history of sexual misconduct?
     
    You are correct, this is never acceptable, nor should unseemly sexual encounters outside of marriage be promoted by the likes of Madonna.
  157. @Corvinus
    "Maybe YOU approve of teaching teenagers to ram their fists up each others rectums- but I would venture to say that the majority on Unz would consider you a monster."

    It goes without even saying that this is disgusting conduct. Next...

    "Whether you are Jewish or not is beside the point. You try to accuse me of baseless allegations that “Jews are the problem, always” thereby relieving them of any criticism whatsoever- or even any partial culpability in the Culture wars. I am on record here as excoriating all good people to reject Hollywood values, idiotic idolatry of pro sports and HaHaHa….Talmudvision!"

    YOU made the assumption that I exonerated Jews for being in part responsible for "immoral" content. I merely pointed out your fetish for blaming Jews for EVERYTHING.

    Feel free to condemn Hollywood to the hilt. Free free to blame Jews as being part and parcel to the destruction of traditional values. But Americans have the liberty to choose what they want to create and watch. If you have a disdain for popular culture, including sports, wonderful. That is YOUR personal choice.

    "If Jewish communication execs are at the fore front of this assault- then they will have to suffer the resultant opprobrium."

    Communication executives, which include those with Jewish backgrounds, at the forefront of producing material for consumers who, under the banner of the First Amendment, have the right to purchase those materials.

    "You comparing the calumniating of that sodomite Madonna, with the braggadocio of Trump, reveals what a moron you really are."

    Did not Trump cheat on his wife? Does not Trump have a history of sexual misconduct?

    If you are going to be holding people to high moral standards, best you honor those standards rather label such actions as mere "braggadocio". It's telling of your character.

    I merely pointed out your fetish for blaming Jews for EVERYTHING.

    Au contaire, Corvinus.

    I am disliked on these boards by the white nationalists, because I place the blame squarely on white men and women for abandoning the atonal sacrifice of Christ and our societal responsibilities that go with that belief.

    Most Jews are assimilated successfully into American society and their achievements are to be emulated by everyone. [ They value real education above all else].Review my prior comments, before you continue to slander me- it is a cheap trick crying anti- semitism [PC] and people are fed up with it-hence the rise of Trump.

    Feel free to condemn Hollywood to the hilt. Free free to blame Jews as being part and parcel to the destruction of traditional values. But Americans have the liberty to choose what they want to create and watch. If you have a disdain for popular culture, including sports, wonderful. That is YOUR personal choice.

    You are overstating the obvious here. This is exactly what I do. I am in a high profile, heavily trafficked, metropolitan tourist area. People can exercise this choice that you speak of- when they also here my side of the story. I also encourage everyone to get outdoors and participate in all manner of sporting activities, not to just be a passive target of propaganda- promulgated through the Corporate CIA Media/Military/Banking Complex.

    Did not Trump cheat on his wife? Does not Trump have a history of sexual misconduct?

    You are correct, this is never acceptable, nor should unseemly sexual encounters outside of marriage be promoted by the likes of Madonna.

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  158. @Anonymous

    Yeah, some people are terrified by clowns, but many of us enjoy the entertainment they provide.

    Better a clown than a demonstrable war criminal.
     

    Amazing how even the alt-right bought into this corporate media establishment characterization of Trump as a clown. The dude went to Wharton, built a $10 billion business, had a NYT all-time bestselling book, had a top-rated prime-time TV show, is credited with revitalization of NYC , has the backing of business titan billionaires, et al. Yet somehow the globalist cabal puppet masters, through their corporate media, was able to easily sell Trump as a clown. Amazing. Scary. Kind of backs up Fred's negative view of it all.

    The dude went to Wharton

    No he never graduated from Wharton as he would like all to believe he graduated from Penn State which had a student exchange program with Wharton. Trump is a king sized liar but his lies are all related to his ego unlike the dangerous Hillary a revolting sleazebag who can’t wait to start a war with Russia and try to resurrect the collapsing American foreign policy.

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  159. @Richard II
    And an IQ measured as north of 156. Trump's no chump.

    And an IQ measured as north of 156

    You have been chumped, that IQ is an estimate based on him graduating from the Wharton MBA program.

    Guess what he never graduated from Wharton as he would like every one to believe. He graduated from Penn State in ‘Anthropology’ and Penn State had an exchange program with Wharton, so technically speaking he ‘went to Wharton’ but he implicitly lied.

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  160. @cane toad
    Good comment, look on the sunny side of life! I'm 66, it has it's advantages. I often tell my husband our ravings won't change anything, this all proceeds without our agreement, approval. And it is much bigger than us. Worldwide changes are happening that will change everything, we just have to manage our own affairs keeping the ongoing gotterdamerung in mind. Enjoy what's left to enjoy, from a distance. Big cities, cesspools, not centers of civilization, diversity, a huge disappointment, elites, always a problem, and the mainstream media, avoid, avoid. We like our peaceful, civilized life and pursue it, I have no idea about future generations and frankly don't care.

    That’s a very sane attitude. I shall endeavor to inculcate it in myself. I’m sure that it will help keep my blood pressure down. But doing so will be a bit of a betrayal of my younger self, who, being admitted to the great institutions of Western culture, was determined to play at least a small part in bringing that culture to even greater heights. Knowing that I’ll likely be dead by the time the barbarians have completely breached the gates doesn’t lessen the sting of my failure to do so.

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