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Pompeo: “My Faith in Jesus Christ Makes a Real Difference”

Pompeo says God may have sent Trump to save Israel from Iran

“As a Christian, I certainly believe that’s possible,” said Mr Pompeo….”I am confident that the Lord is at work here,”

Pence, a Catholic Evangelical who almost became a priest: “I made a commitment to Christ.”

Christians? These Christians support a war on Yemen in which huge numbers of people are dying of mutilation, cholera, and starvation, a war they could stop with a telephone call. They similarly support butchery of Afghans from the air, massive killing in Syria, bombing of Somalis, and torture chambers around the world. Such is their Christianity. They lack even a shred of human decency. But they are Christians.

Tell me, Mr Pompeo, Mr. Pence:. Have you ever seen a child die of starvation? I have heard it described. It takes many days. Crying, crying, crying, slowly getting weaker. The mother, frantic, desperate, going crazy. The child holds out his arms, expecting as children do that their mother will do something. The crying eventually stops. But maybe you would get more of a kick out of watching one die of cholera caused by your wars. Death by cholera is quicker, but more interesting: Puking and defecating uncontrollably, crying, crying. The dehydration kills them. Neat, huh? Meanwhile, Mike, you eat prime rib in Washington and talk of the sanctity of your faith. You are a goddamned pious monster. May you rot in hell, if any.

We have Pompeo, a malignant manatee looking to start wars in which he will not risk his flabby amorphous ass also parading his Christianity. Bolton, a mean sonofabitch who belongs in a strait jacket, at least doesn’t pose as someone having a soul. And the Golden Tufted Cocatoo, too weak to control those around him, preening and tweeting. God save us.

Those of a certain age may remember Christianity as a vague though real niceness practiced by people who would have been equally nice without it. Christmas meant trees glowing with lights and a nativity seen on the town square, this not yet being illegal, and choirs of children singing carols in front of houses, carols on public streets not yet having been found unconstitutional. It means a spaniel-eyed Jesus looking skyward in sappy adoration. It was pleasant. This is not the Christianity of Pence and Pompeo. They are amoral Christians. They are cruel Christians. They are evil Christians.

A politically useful tendency–useful to Mike Pence–is to think of Christianity as a quaint and beleaguered faith rooted in goodness and kindness and concern for others. Historically this has not been the case. Christianity has a record of savagery, of bestial religious wars, torture, the burning of heretics. In Zacatecas, Mexico, there is a museum of instruments of torture used by the Inquisition. They are too sickening to describe. This was not the Christianity of Jimmy Carter or Mother Theresa. It is the Christianity of Mike Pence and Pompeo.

And they are Evangelicals. This may prove to be an even greater disqualification for office.

Evangelicals are…strange. For the most part they are not evil, just people, often poorly educated, as best they can trying to make sense of an incomprehensible existence. (Rapture Culture is not a great book, but gives a fair picture of Evangelicals.) Theirs is a peculiar theology, one with implications for foreign policy. They believe in the Rapture. They believe that we are in the End Times. This means that one day soon the faithful will disappear–poof–and be sucked up into heaven by the Rapture. Whoosh. The rest of us will endure the Tribulation, a time when the Antichrist will rule in chaos and savagery. Then Jesus will come and defeat him in the battle of Armageddon.

None of this matters particularly in itself. Religions have often predicted the end of the world. They get over it. But:

What does matter is the Evangelical belief that before the world can end, the Jews must gather in Israel and be converted to Christianity. This puts Evangelicals in the curious position of being pro-Israel but anti-Semitic. So far as I am aware, Jews have no enthusiasm for conversion. Those who believe this are called Christian Zionists, and their loyalty is to whatever they think God wants, not to peace, America, or reason. They are loyal to Israel because it is essential to the end of the world.

This means that directing the foreign policy of the United States we have two fringe Christians, two Jews (Kushner and Ivanka) and an addled and easily led First Carrot. It means that Pompeo and Pence are driven not by practical consideration of the needs and well being of the United States but by loyalty to curious theological ideas and to a foreign country. They will do what fits these ideas. And they are simply bad men.

Pence, speaking to Jews:.”Let me say emphatically, like the overwhelming majority of my constituents, my Christian faith compels me to cherish the state of Israel.”

He backed that up last December at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s conference when he said: “Israel’s enemies are our enemies, Israel’s cause is our cause. If this world knows nothing else, let it know this: America stands with Israel.”

This is astounding. A vice President of the United States openly stating that he is loyal to a foreign country. If Israel wants war with Iran, then so does Pence–because Israel wants it. If Israel pushes America into a war with Iran, which its control over Congress, finance, and the media may allow it to do, Pence will favor it. How many Americans have signed on to this?

And in war he will take the rest of us along with him.

Moving the embassy to Jerusalem.Recognizing Israeli sovereignty over Golan. Very likely, over the West Bank. Perhaps going to war against Iran for which there is no other reason. In this case millions will die for a screwball theology with the spiritual legitimacy of the Hare Krishnas. Can we take a vote on this?

Instrument of Catholic Christianity, which Pence professes
Instrument of Catholic Christianity, which Pence professes

While neither Pence nor Pompeo would go openly near a torture chamber–bad PR, that–they know that allies such as the Saudis and Israelis do such thing, and that Gina Haspel, head of the CIA and known sadist, does equivalent things in secret torture sites of which Pence and Pompeo are aware. Oh, but they are men of Jesus.

In general, the more seriously Christianity is taken, the less pleasant it becomes. (This is equally true of all three Mid-Eastern religions.) Of course sub sects of Christians differ. At one extreme you have the Unitarians, who believe that if God existed, He would be a force for community betterment. At the other extreme you have the Catholics at their worst, tearing people slowly limb from limb.

Christianity has a long and dismal history of oddball sects and heresies which often have fought bloody wars. Aryans, Cathars, Protestants, Mormons, Tai Pings, Moonies, Snake Handlers, Evangelicals. I have seen conservatives criticizing the Chinese for suppressing Christianity. The Chinese have their reasons. From 1850 to 1864 the Tai Pings, a truly screwy off-brand Christianity whose leader thought he was the little brother of Jesus, caused what may have been the bloodiest civil war in history. When leaders think they are on Whatsapp with God, they will do what they think He tells them. And if God says to smite Iran, smite Iran they will.

Yet more applied Christianity
Yet more applied Christianity

Grotesque torture as a means of social control was not limited to Mexico or Catholics. The history of Europe is a monstrous tapestry of barbarism by those three awful Mid-Eastern religions warring, butchering, burning heretics, the rack, strappado, The Jews behaved much less badly because ,lacking a country and an army, they had to. When they acquired these things, they began behaving like Christians and Moslems.

Maybe we should leave foreign policy to diplomats.

Interesting Landmark:

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The Chinese have gene-edited viable human embryos to eliminate a gene causing disease. These could have been implanted in a human uterus to produce…babies. The science moves rapidly now, and the politics will follow. After an initial period of horror, the technique will be used to prevent disease, then to improve health or athleticism, then–eeek!–intelligence and, finally behavior. Don’t think so? Bet me.

Fred’s Occasional Glimpses of the Lands to the South

The civil will be interested. Thunder-thump patriots with the brains of crawdads will shriek mightily. I encourage both.

Baluarte Bridge between Durango and Sinaloa. Said to be world’s highest. It may not be, but driving across it you seriously don’t want to jump the safety rails. When you have really awful terrain (I think most will agree that is really awful terrain) running lengthwise in your country, you either bullheadedly build monster bridges and very long tunnels, or you drive vast distances to get to the other side of the country.

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  1. Rational says:

    OLD TESTAMENT, THE ROOT OF CHRISTIANITY = PURE EVIL.

    Thanks for the article, Fred. You are so right. But when I see the Pope kissing the feet of alien invaders and Pence groveling to Israel, I remember these:

    The 18th-century Anglo-American philosopher Thomas Paine wrote in The Age of Reason that “Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible [i.e. the Old Testament] is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the Word of God.” When he says Bible, Paine is referring to the OT.

    See: http://www.evilbible.com

    “Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.” – VOLTAIRE

    See online the book: “Crimes of Christianity” by Foote:

    http://www.ftarchives.net/foote/crimes/contents.htm

    “There is no text more barbaric than the Old Testament….–books like Deuteronomy and Leviticus and Exodus*. The Quran pales in comparison.”–Jewish author Dr. Samuel Benjamin Harris.

    *i.e. Torah, or OT.

    • Replies: @tex tickles
    , @Ragno
  2. We have Pompeo, a malignant manatee looking to start wars in which he will not risk his flabby amorphous ass also parading his Christianity

    Actually Pompeo served in the military for five years, reaching the rank of captain. Now he’s 55, so yes, he will not be risking his “flabby ass,” only his job.

    Fred should really do more research, ‘cuz he just seems lazy.

    Whatever Pompeo’s shortcomings, the guy’s resume is top-notch: first in his class at West Point, STEM degree, Harvard law, veteran, successful businessman, yada yada. I do find it odd that someone of his ilk believes in the Rapture; my only guess is that he’s playing to his (former) Kansas electoral base, and he can’t back out now. No way he believes this stuff.

    As far as Impressive Humans go, Pompeo > Reed.

  3. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    Protestantism is pseudo-Christianity. It started 1500 years after the Christian Church was founded and now has over 40K different splinter groups (denominations) in the U.S. alone. This Johnny-come-lately of heresies began because of greed and lust, and as usual, a Jewish revolutionary spirit (read E. Michael Jones’ The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit).

    But on Trump’s über-neocon turn E. Michael Jones sums it up well in this Sputnik News interview of March 22, 2019:

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  4. Patrick says:

    I am not in favor of christian zionism but the irrational has always played a prominent role in human politics, that being said I am a great fan of Fred Reed.

    • Replies: @anon
  5. Fred Reed writes:

    those three awful Mid-Eastern religions

    Indeed … a key insight of civilisation right there

    The ‘desert bloc’ of spirituality, as Alexadria’s Dr Ashraf Ezzat said, the 3 Abrahamic religions, all founded within a few hundred kilometres of each other, all founded by the same kind of desert tribals used to life and death battles for control of a single watering hole

    The Abrahamic religions embodying the character of these people, according to Ezzat, the traits of being belligerent, extremist, and of low culture:

    ‘My god is the ONLY god’ fanaticism – threat of ‘eternal hell’ torture to terrorise people from early childhood – ‘God-ordered’ genocides, torture, and human enslavement – child genital mutilation ‘ordered by God’, and always to be present at least symbolically

    The Asian spiritual pathways are much better …. ‘many ways’, not one way … no ‘God’s word absolutely binding’ holy books to deny your conscience … no ‘eternal hell’, everyone makes it in the end … no weird perverse obsessions with genital mutilation, and having a strong direction away from torture-death cult killing

    And positively: Meditation etc, meeting the divine directly and even ecstatically, through a choice of many routes anyone can access … The end to fear – you cannot die, nor even truly kill … In 10 minutes, a short video version of India’s most beloved spiritual story, the Bhagavad-Gita … a great warrior’s chariot driver turns out to be one of god’s incarnations, and explains what life is all about

  6. G. Poulin says:

    Selective indignation at it again. Fred’s beloved Mexico witnessed scenes of horrific human sacrifice on a regular basis. But you won’t hear a peep from indignant Fred about any of that. In fact, I expect he would make excuses for it. Shit for brains.

  7. @Rational

    old covenant is obsolete and different from the new covenant…anyone who keeps you in the old covenant is a false teacher and a manipulator…not all christians worship israel and some of us know history and the scam called israel…2 million bucks will buy a piece of stolen land which it did in 1948…the torah is not for christians..the new testament [covenant] is.

  8. The one nice thing is that Israelophilia amongst young Americans rapidly drops off along with secularization and Europeanization of social attitudes, as well as of course greater diversity (Latinos couldn’t care less about creating Greater Israel). There was a recent survey which showed that even young Republicans are not much more pro-Israel than young Democrats. This Christian Zionism thing is very much a boomer thing.

    There’s a good chance that the Trump administration is a last hurrah for the Israel First agenda.

  9. nickels says:

    Christians didn’t invent hypocrisy, nor are they the only ones who apply it.
    However, they are the one group that knows and professes to do better, so they are easy target.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  10. What white country built that bridge for those dumbass beaners?

    • LOL: TKK
    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Republic
  11. Christo says:

    “Pence -a Catholic Evangelical” mutually exclusive terms . He is a former Catholic, and now, they just did not hold him underwater long enough. LOL

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  12. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious

    Wow, that’s some disgusting credentialism. How far up the ladder did adulation of people like Mr. Pompeo take you?

    • Agree: Tom Welsh, Herald
    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  13. @anonymous

    I didn’t say I idolized him, but you can’t deny his accomplishments. And I was responding to a snide comment by Reed basically calling Pompeo a worthless slug, and a coward.

    What are your accomplishments?

    • Replies: @Herald
    , @Twodees Partain
    , @Art
  14. nsa says:

    This is what government of the joo, by the joo, for the joo looks like……

  15. @tex tickles

    Hey, wait a minute–how can there be a new covenant? God is not a man…that he should repent. (Numbers 23:19) [God] is the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. (Hebrews 13:8) [God], with whom is no variableness. (James 1:17)

  16. The closest to original Christianity is the Eastern Orthodox brand which is less corrupted compared to Romanism with its heavy doses of ‘pagan’ influences.

    Christian Zionism is a fraud like most American heresies including those snake-handling ‘churches’, Mormonism, Seventh Day Adventists, Christian Identity, Christian Science, Jehovah Witnesses plus countless Jim Jones-like cults.

    In fact Luther, the founder of Protestantism, was initially a ‘Zionist’ till he saw the ‘light’, prompting him to pen On the Jews and Their Lies (Von den Juden und ihren Lügen) . The modern apostate Lutheran church has since been compromised.

    Besides the ‘perks’ of being philo-Semitic are terrible. Take the Brits. After they failed to fulfill the fraudulent Balfour Declaration, Zionists turned nasty – terror groups like the Haganah, Irgun and Stern Gang resorted to letter bombs, blowing up hotels and hanging British troops with piano wire.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Amen
  17. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Amerimutt Golem

    The closest to original Christianity is the Eastern Orthodox brand which is less corrupted compared to Romanism with its heavy doses of ‘pagan’ influences

    As a Catholic I have nothing against the schism of Eastern Orthodoxy and Rome believes her sacraments are fully valid. But let’s be real, in addition to Mt. 16:18, Ss. Peter and Paul went to Rome, not Constantinople. Not sure how anyone with any knowledge of church history can’t clearly see that when it comes to Christ’s
    True Church, Rome is home.

    • Replies: @Swede55
    , @dearieme
  18. @Bragadocious

    Pompeo was indeed in the armed forces, and chose to enter the army when its stated purpose was to serve as a speed bump for Warsaw Pact armor surging through the Fulda Gap blasting its way through with the generous use of tactical nuclear weapons.

    That said he did not see combat. Not that seeing combat necessarily makes a man a peace lover, as the “distinguished” career of the late Senator McCain demonstrates.

    Lawyers are necessary and sometimes even useful, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to praise them. My fellow Americans are generally much harsher on them.

    Wikipedia doesn’t go into great deal about Pompeo’s business career, but it doesn’t seem he was any kind of an entrepreneur in the way we imagine them. He and his buddies took over and amalgamated three existing manufacturing companies and later sold the merged entity. I could say the same thing about such business activity as what I said about lawyers.

    Pompeo’s subsequent career as a “public servant” has been chiefly in service of warmongering and torture. Most certainly not praiseworthy.

    Fred Reed has his low points for which I’ve crudely insulted him several times, but he’s been churning out excellent writing for four decades. Certainly Reed improves my life more than Pompeo does. And unlike Pompeo, he actually saw combat.

    I’m not a fan of ambitious, talented men who employ their talents to advance evil. Nor am I a fan of people who go along with the “system” (which no one can accuse Reed of doing), though I’ll grudgingly grant that if most men were as independent in mind as Reed that society would likely cease to function.

    My final verdict: Reed > Pompeo

    • Replies: @Amen
    , @Liberty Mike
  19. @Brabantian

    Maybe next incarnation he’ll explain indoor plumbing!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  20. turtle says:
    @Bragadocious

    Reed >> Pompeo
    As a cadet @ West Point, Mr. Pompeo swore to this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadet_Honor_Code

    West Point’s Cadet Honor Code reads simply that

    “A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”

    In modern times, he brags and laughs about having done all three as director of CIA:

    By contrast, Mr. Reed is one of these:
    https://www.marines.com/who-we-are/our-values.html
    DUCTUS EXEMPLO
    A Latin term that means “lead by example,”
    it’s about behaving in a manner that inspires others.

    Don’t know about you, but I am not inspired by a fat body who brags about lying, cheating and stealing, just for starters.
    He is also welcome to peddle his crazed religious beliefs somewhere else.
    As an agnostic, I really do not give a rat’s ass what happens to the terrorist state of Israel.
    Israel’s battles are not my battles, and I resent anyone attempting to tell me they are.
    I also do have Iranian friends, but no Iranian enemies.
    Notice to Mr. Pence:
    Iran is not my enemy.
    Israel’s enemies are not my enemies.
    I do NOT “stand with Israel.”

    The United States of America is a separate country from the State of Israel, with far different values.

    I stand with the United States, the country of my birth, so long as it adheres to the principles embodied in its founding documents, the U.S. Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Lately, it does not appear to be doing much of that, no thanks to shitheads like Mr. Pompeo, and his compadre in crime, Mr. Bolton.

  21. turtle says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    This Christian Zionism thing is very much a boomer thing.

    I disagree.
    In my opinion, “Christian Zionism” is very much an ignorance thing.
    Snake handlers and “young earth creationists” are probably its major constituency.

    I was born in 1949, turned 21 and graduated university in 1970.
    None of my friends past or present, Christian or not, believe such absolute nonsense.
    Unfortunately, it appears there are all too many who do.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Realist
  22. @turtle

    You’re pretty naive if you think the CIA doesn’t lie. Every intelligence outfit across the world lies. You think MI6 doesn’t lie, like every day of its life?

    Since you’re so interested in Israel, you might want to know that Fred Reed is a total Johnny come lately on critiquing Israel. He used to make fun of people e-mailing him about Israel. In 2005, he wrote a hugely embarrassing positive review of a book claiming that Israel was getting a raw deal in the press because Palestinians were orchestrating the coverage. Imagine shilling for a book like that. Fred Reed did.

    • Replies: @turtle
  23. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @turtle

    In my opinion, “Christian Zionism” is very much an ignorance thing.
    Snake handlers and “young earth creationists” are probably its major constituency.

    I was born in 1949, turned 21 and graduated university in 1970.
    None of my friends past or present, Christian or not, believe such absolute nonsense.
    Unfortunately, it appears there are all too many who do.

    It’s also a white thing or Republican thing (Nikki Haley). But frankly, political Zionism is just as pro-Israel and is pervasive among nearly D.C. establishment politicos. People like Hillary, Samantha Power, Susan Rice are every bit as warmongering for Israel as John Hagee.

    But the rapid demographic shift and the the decline of whites in large metro areas will certainly reduce future support for Israel and the U.S. kowtowing to Israel.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/70-of-school-districts-newest-students-are-immigrants-legal-status-unknown

    70 percent of school district’s newest students are immigrants, legal status unknown

    Seven of 10 new students in a Baltimore-Washington area school district are immigrants, their legal status unknown and their second language English, according to a series of new media reports about the impact of surging immigration on local communities.

    A recent Baltimore Sun report said that of the 5,000 new students jamming Baltimore County schools in the past five years, 3,500 are “recent immigrants or children whose family speak another language.”

    That has helped to double the percentage of students who speak English as a second language, part of a national trend.

    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Amen
  24. turtle says:
    @Bragadocious

    You’re pretty naive if you think the CIA doesn’t lie.

    I never said that, or believed it either.
    What I said:

    I am not inspired by a fat body who brags about lying, cheating and stealing

    Nor is Pompeo the only Pointer known to lie.
    There was a certain General Powell, for example.
    Perhaps the USMA should change their motto – truth in advertising, etc.
    FWIW, I had two close friends in HS who were both USMA, Class of 1970.
    I know for a fact neither of them would stoop to Mr. Pompeo’s level.

    Since you’re so interested in Israel

    My only interest in the “State of Israel” is they should keep their hands out of our federal treasury, i.e. our tax dollars, and quit spreading lies that they are “just like us.” They are not.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @The scalpel
  25. turtle says:
    @Ray Huffman

    Probably one of the Asian “white” countries, same as they did for those dumbass roundeyes in the State of Washington, where the last suspension bridge in the U.S. was built.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge

    the new bridge opened to carry eastbound traffic on July 16, 2007

    In that case, the project engineer was Japanese, and the bridge sections were fabricated in (South) Korea, as was the wire for the suspension cables.
    IIRC, the project manager was South American (I do not recall which country), and the second in command was a Scotsman.
    They did hire the local boys as iron workers, however.
    Google “longest bridges” and “highest bridges.”
    Most in both categories are in China, and of recent construction.
    The U.S.?
    In the words of the late Jim Morrison,
    “Your ballroom days are over, baby.
    Night is drawing near.”

  26. @Ray Huffman

    ” … God is not a man … “

    I’m not endorsing either but here are two possible responses:

    Man is not God. Therefor, human interpretations and understanding of any divine messages will, perforce be mutable and subject to error.

    Alternatively, God’s purpose is constant as is his strategy for dealing with mankind. But that strategy requires varying tactics, e.g., different so called covenants and messages as the divine plan plays out.

  27. @Anatoly Karlin

    Christian Zionism is a minor problem. The major one is the Zionist fifth column in this country that infests and largely controls the government, the economy, the mass media, etc.

  28. wayfarer says:

    “Michele Bachmann and Alex Jones on Biblical Prophecy”

  29. Swede55 says:
    @Anonymous

    There was no Constantinople at the time.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  30. turtle says:
    @Anonymous

    People like Hillary, Samantha Power, Susan Rice are every bit as warmongering for Israel as John Hagee.

    Yep.

  31. Realist says:

    Religion is used to control people.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @c matt
  32. Realist says:
    @Bragadocious

    Whatever Pompeo’s shortcomings, the guy’s resume is top-notch: first in his class at West Point, STEM degree, Harvard law, veteran, successful businessman, yada yada.

    I would not consider a degree in engineering management a STEM degree

    • Replies: @Amen
  33. “This puts Evangelicals in the curious position of being pro-Israel but anti-Semitic.”

    Tuning around Freesat in Europe, particularly the UK, get you get a lot of religious channels, mostly Muslim, but also more than a few Christian. One day I tuned past a Christian guy standing in front of a phone bank and a flag of Israel, asking for money while expressing his solidarity with Israel.

    You make a good point Fred: They don’t care so much about the Jews, they just want to get their hands on the Holy Lands, even if it takes every Jewish and Muslim life they can throw at the problem.

  34. @Bragadocious

    “Actually Pompeo served in the military for five years, reaching the rank of captain.”

    The top of a Service Academy class only “reaching” the rank of Captain (Railroad Tracks, not Bird) after five years of active service is hardly an accomplishment … it is fulfilling the service requirement in exchange for a free-ride on the taxpayers teat. He conveniently ended his service just before he might have been dragooned into Gulf War 1, and if he did reserve time, it was while at Harvard Law; while many other reserve officers had their civvy careers interrupted by an increasing ops tempo of deployments that followed GW1, Mike did just fine.

    Having been given seed money for his business by the Kochs and Bain Capital, he was plucked, like B. Hussein Obama, out of relative obscurity and fast-tracked to greatness. Kind of like a poorer George H.W. Bush.

    • Replies: @Truth
  35. @Swede55

    There was a Byzantium, but it wasn’t as Chi-Chi as Rome at the time of Christ. Making Rome the centre of the Gurch then would be like making it New York or DC now. I would be hard-pressed to see Christ himself embracing Rome as the seat of Christendom then, but it would not be much of a reach for his followers who wanted to be closer to the cosmopolitan action of the day.

  36. I guess you’d call me one of those detestable fundamentalists, Fred. You see, I take very seriously what Jesus says in the New Testament. The authority of the Son of God makes clear that His interpretations are the ones that those really transformed and following Him would model.

    Now people who’ve never directly experienced things for themselves can be misled by others, who will use the disguise of faith. As for love of country, patriotism is also misused to become the first refuge of scoundrels: instead of loving your neighbors, used by them as Mark Twain pointed out to require hating others in countries further away.

    But what happens when you find out you’ve been lied to? For me, having had some involvement with the military in the computer industry during the Cold War, it was clear after the Russians abandoned sovietism that the American corporations involved cared not a whit for liberty – war meant profits. Then came the lies justifying the Iraq war and all its cousins, along with the Abu Ghraib tortures approved to the highest levels – which because of my own involvement I knew had to follow the chain of command. Both religious leaders and political leaders approved of these tortures. But although I had believed these folks, the revelations and the excuses made did not jibe with my Savior’s clear speaking in scripture – quite the opposite. This was not the Jesus I know, nor the witness of the Holy Spirit who leads me.

    Now these manifestations of political cooperation and human organizations calling themselves Christian, are self identifying. They claim the name Christian, but when they defy Christ’s own example and teaching, they are in fact anti-Christian, either self-deceived or knowingly deceiving others.

    All along, there have been those who truly were following His path and taking up His cross, even where weeds choked the Gospel as best they could, and wolves moved among the sheep in disguise. Often those with the power to do so marginalized, persecuted and even tortured and murdered these, while masquerading as Christians while defying His every command.

    I am evangelical, in that I would like to see others meet the real Jesus, not substitute false idols like the War Jesus constructed by merely human hands. But I also know that despite billions supposedly Christian, Jesus warned the path is narrow, the road to destruction broad, and that those taking up His cross would ever only be a minority – and that such a minority would be persecuted, even by religious authorities. Such folks cannot be conflated with membership rolls on institutional records, but are known to God.

    My orientation of faith is identical to that of the anabaptists who were the Christians persecuted by Catholics and Protestants alike, reformers who refused to take up arms against either. They often rescued their own pursuers, yet were rewarded with burning, drowning, throttling, dismemberment, along with wives and children by those who pretended they were serving Christ by doing so.

    So I appreciate your pointing out how wicked it is to do evil things in the name of Christ, but I would like to remind you that just as the counterfeit can’t exist without the genuine, that there are those who won’t participate in these things, because they are determined to follow Christ, the Holy Spirit and the conscience this dictates, regardless of both those who hate Christ and those who worship a false Christ whose actions bear more resemblance to the methods of Satan himself.

    Thanks Fred.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @marylou
    , @TKK
    , @anonymous
  37. Anon[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Nietzsche once wrote that the first, and also last, Christian had been Christ himself.

  38. @turtle

    The honor code at West Point was always taken seriously. Like so much else it has deteriorated lately, but it’s still observed.

    Unfortunately, once the plebs graduate and become officers they enter the United States Army, in which lying is required to advance your career. The entire officer corps as a result is dishonest, and the higher your rank the greater the lying.

    See John T. Reed on this, USMA Class of 1968: https://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-blog-about-military-matters/61085187-is-military-integrity-a-contradiction-in-terms-part-1

    John T. Reed refused to sign false reports as a junior officer in Vietnam, the result of which was that he was never promoted (highly irregular) and his commanding officer attempted to get him killed.

    Fred Reed was an enlisted Marine, but he has said similar things about officers and especially brass.

    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Anon
  39. Anon[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Macadam

    This comment of yours suggests, to my mind, that Nietzsche was wrong. By a short stretch, but, luckily, still wrong.

  40. Anon[100] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    They are hypochristians.

  41. turtle says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Thank you for the link to Mr. John T. Reed’s site.
    He evidently embodies the sort of integrity we should expect from leaders, but seldom get.

  42. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    they enter the United States Army, in which lying is required to advance your career. The entire officer corps as a result is dishonest, and the higher your rank the greater the lying.

    That bears an awesome similarity with dating and romance. I wonder how come.

  43. Anonymous[207] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    The pro British Congress Party ruled for 6 decades.

    Now look

    Also, FYI

    Indus Valley had first flush toilets anywhere in world..

  44. FB says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin

    As usual Munchhausen Karlin immediately snags the stupidest comment award…without wasting undue time…

    Does this dunce really know so fucking little…about just about everything…or is he simply retarded…?

    His bear-trap logic relies on ‘a recent survey’…SMFH

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  45. FB says: • Website

    Excellent piece by Mr Reed…he really tore a righteous strip of bacon off that walking side of pork Pompeo…

    There are millions of evangelical Christians that fanatically support Israel for the reason of this end times nonsense, as stated in the article…so that is a very large base…and not all of them insist that Jews must convert…that is just one slice of a very wide spectrum…

    In fact not all evangelical Christians support Israel…there is a very wide spectrum on the Israel issue…right up to those that see Iran and Russia [especially] in a positive light…which is encouraging…

    These American Christians sympathize with Russia’s Christianity and also with the conservatism they see in Russian society, and the sobriety of Russian politics…I have no idea how the numbers stack up for these various slices of the spectrum…but the mainstream is probably along the lines of the Pences and Pompeos of the world…

  46. @FB

    ……………..?

    • Agree: Thorfinnsson, WHAT
    • Disagree: The scalpel
  47. marylou says:
    @Fran Macadam

    yep.

    Matthew 7:21-23

    21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
    N

  48. KenH says:

    Christian fundamentalism is full of whack jobs and Dr. Strangeloves and Pompeo and Pence are two shining examples. I just hope they don’t get us all blown to smithereens.

    In Fred’s adopted nation a six year old was just caught in the crossfire of drug cartel gunfire in Cancun and has died of his injuries. This is hard to believe as Fred tells us that in addition to being a nation on the cutting edge of technology, it also has the most bookstores per square mile of any nation. So the bookish Mexican people should be reading books and not dealing drugs and shooting people, especially kids:
    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/04/26/cartel-gunfire-in-cancun-kills-6-year-old-wounds-parents/

    Mexico has 33K homicides annually but Fredrico gets peeved if American whites don’t want these problems in America.

  49. Escher says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    IMHO, it is very much a $$ thing (as someone said: “all about the Benjamins”)

  50. dearieme says:
    @Anonymous

    “the schism of Eastern Orthodoxy” is an odd way to put it; the Roman Catholics flounced out from the old church in the schism of 1054. Or to put it another way, the Pope flounced out from the other Patriarchs.

    “Ss. Peter and Paul went to Rome”: Paul yes; he had no choice, being under arrest. Peter: of course he didn’t, that’s just another of those old religious fabrications.

    If the earliest Christians had a True Home it was either Jerusalem or Galilee, of course.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @RadicalCenter
  51. dearieme says:
    @Brabantian

    “the 3 Abrahamic religions … all founded by the same kind of desert tribals used to life and death battles for control of a single watering hole.

    Hardly. It would seem that the earliest Hebrews were probably settled villagers in the hills of Palestine. The earliest Christians were villagers in Galilee.

    It’s not at all clear who the earliest Moslems were, since the initial conquerors were referred to as Saracens: the witness statements to their success make no reference to their having a distinct religion or distinct holy book. They do seem to have had a general called Mahomet, though, who had earlier been a merchant. Where they were from is also unclear. There’s a fair chance that they were originally from around Petra, which is on the edge of cultivation, not deep in the Arabian desert.

    • Replies: @anon
  52. The scalpel says: • Website
    @turtle

    West Point honor grad here. Also a conscientious objector. It took me a bit to overcome my childhood indoctrination into the cult of imperialism, but before long, I realized that imperialism was in no way defending the people who reside in the USA.

    http://thescalpel.net/underpantsl.html

    The sad reality of current US culture is that West Point is extremely proud of lying, cheating, and stealing Pompeo, and considers me to be an embarrassment. The true mission of West Point is not “Duty, Honor, Country” as far as I can tell, but to bait idealistic young men and women into attending college there in an attempt to turn them into soulless, self-serving, corporate bag men like they did to Mike Pompeo.

    (FWIW, my money is on Pompeo having somewhat cheated his way through West Point. I have seen it with my own eyes, and Pompeo does not seem that intelligent to me)

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @turtle
    , @wayfarer
  53. lysias says:
    @Brabantian

    Jesus a desert tribal used to battles? Huh?

  54. The scalpel says: • Website
    @KenH

    Christian fundamentalism is also full of con-artists who take the gullible for a ride. Pence seems quite dull. He might really believe that stuff. Pompeo is the wolf in sheep’s clothes. I have enough faith to at least hope that short of complete repentance (as likely as him getting knocked off a horse by God) – short of that, a special hell awaits him

    • Replies: @FB
    , @anon
  55. FB says: • Website
    @The scalpel

    Porker Pompeo on a horse…?…being a horse lover that mental image sends shivers down my spine…

    OTOH…a well placed back hoof to the nether regions of the ‘malignant manatee’ [classic coinage right there…thanks Mr Reed]…would be divinely appreciated…let us hope and, dare I say it, pray…

    • Agree: The scalpel
  56. Truth says:
    @The Alarmist

    The top of a Service Academy class only “reaching” the rank of Captain (Railroad Tracks, not Bird) after five years of active service is hardly an accomplishment …

    You know someone who was a colonel after 5 years?

    • Replies: @The scalpel
    , @The Alarmist
  57. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Truth

    Captain after 5 years is the most common result. The rank of Major is used as an incentive to stay in after one’s (typically 5 year) obligation. Looking at Plumpeo, I’d guess one of the reasons he got out was because he couldn’t pass his fitness tests

    • LOL: FB
    • Replies: @Rich
  58. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @tex tickles

    If the Torah isn’t for Christians, why is it quoted 695 times and referenced a total of 4,105 times in the New Testament?

    How many times do the writers of the New Testament quote the Old Testament? An index in the Jewish New Testament catalogs 695 separate quotations from the books of the Old Testament in the New (Jewish New Testament Publications, Jerusalem, 1989). There are many other passages where the Old Testament is referred to , as in cases where an Old Testament figure is mentioned, but no specific scripture is quoted. Depending on which scholar’s work you examine, the number of quotations and references in the New Testament to the Old may be as high as 4,105.

    The Expositor’s Bible Commentary
    Zondervan, Grand Rapids, 1979, Vol. I, p. 617

    • Replies: @anon
  59. The Inquisition: It’s prolly best to begin at the beginning, with Moses, the first, and deadliest, inquisitor.

    Moses, the 1st inquisitor ordered killed 23 thousand one day (Exodus 32)

    Moses, the 1st Inquisitor, ordered killed 24 thousand one day (Numbers 25).

    Forty Seven Thousand ordered killed by The First Inquisitor, Moses, in two days, including women and children.

    Non-Catholic historian Edward Peters:, in his work, “Inquisition” (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1989, p. 87),

    The Spanish Inquisition, in spite of wildly inflated estimates of the numbers of its victims, acted with considerable restraint in inflicting the death penalty, far more restraint than was demonstrated in secular tribunals elsewhere in Europe that dealt with the same kinds of offenses. The best estimate is that around 3000 death sentences were carried out in Spain by Inquisitorial verdict between 1550 and 1800, a far smaller number than that in comparable secular courts.

    ++++++++++++++

    Mr. Reed is an odd individual whose understanding of Christianity suffers from a lack of knowledge.

    He seems to think that Christian Catholics have no right to defend themselves and he also suffers from the error of Presentism.

    Of course, secular governments were far worse during the era when torture was acceptable and, of course, one must note that heretics were treated then as today’s traitors ought be treated.

    If Germany had an Inquisition, wed have never heard of Hitler, but men like Fred hated that which men like Fred have never understood

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Seraphim
  60. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Christianity itself, in all forms, is pseudo-Jewdaism, from the very start of it, even for you ever-kvetching Jew-worshiping Catholics.

    • “To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’” Catechism of the Catholic Church
    • “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” John 4:22
    • “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.” Philippians 3:3

  61. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick

    “Christian Zionism” has been woven into the fabric of the Jew-worshiping cult of Christianity, from the very beginning, with Jewish storytellers writing these Zionist principles the Jew Testament:

    • Matthew 21:5 “Say to Daughter Zion, ‘See, your king comes to you.”
    • John 12:15 “Do not be afraid, Daughter Zion; see, your king is coming.”
    • Romans 9:33 “See, I lay in Zion a stone…”
    • Romans 11:26 “The deliverer will come from Zion…”
    • Hebrews 12:22 “Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem.”
    • 1 Peter 2:6 “See, I lay a stone in Zion.”
    • Revelation 14:1 “Standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000.”

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  62. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    The Inquisition started in 12th-century France. The Spanish Inquisition wasn’t the only region of Inquisition. Stop trying to minimize the horrors.

  63. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @The scalpel

    Christianity was started by con-artists who take the gullible for a ride. As Hebrews 11:1 says, “Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.” That sounds exactly like a sales pitch from confidence man Bernie Madoff, another one of the Hebrews.

  64. @Truth

    No, but if you say Captain to a squid, they get confused.

  65. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @dearieme

    The earliest Christians were villagers in Galilee? Bible says Syria; “Christians first in Antioch.” (Acts 11:26) Not surprisingly, it seems Muslims got their start from Syria too; as the Quran was substantially derived from Syriac Christian liturgy. (Luxenberg, 2007) Let’s not forget Christians and Muslims from Syria both like to shout “Aloha Snackbar!”

  66. @anon

    And you did not mention the Roman Inquisition

    You also did not mention the Jewish Inquisition in Europe.

    I could go on…

    • Replies: @anon
  67. anon[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Teachers refer to that as the “everybody’s doing it” excuse. Stay after class, to explain how those inquisitions too weren’t so awfully bad.

    • Replies: @polaco
  68. anon[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Sadly, none of the three Abrahamic religions were started by Whites, who need their own native religion that better fits their evolutionary biology.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  69. polaco says:
    @anon

    Torture has never been anything out of the ordinary throughout history, when the police of the day took you in for questioning they wouldn’t offer treats in exchange for a confession, torture has been standard operating procedure, it was the normal, expected course of any investigation. Why don’t people blame the governments of today for what the countries they rule now used to do in the past?

    If you can trust the History channel, there is no proof of an Iron Maiden device ever having been used, rather, it was used as a fear inducing object having a profound psychological impact.

    • Replies: @Republic
  70. Rich says:
    @The scalpel

    Major after 5 years? When, during WW2? The War Between the States? Whether you agree with his politics, or not, being promoted to captain after 5 years in peace time is perfectly normal. The man was an athlete in high school, graduated first in his class at West Point, was an infantry officer then was on the Harvard Law Review before being elected to Congress. And not as a liberal pantywaist. Give him his due, the man’s led a remarkable life.

    • Replies: @FB
  71. FB says: • Website
    @Rich

    Wow…there’s really such a member [provisional at least] of the human race that actually admires the malignant manatee…?

    Pompeo’s only possible use to humanity would be as a source of protein to a starving Yemeni family…[providing they can get over the pork part]…

    • LOL: bluedog
    • Replies: @Rich
  72. Rich says:
    @FB

    Okay, you dislike the guy, doesn’t change his accomplishments. All without Affirmative Action.

    • Replies: @The scalpel
  73. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Rich

    He found that affirmative action was not as good as lying, cheating, and stealing. I will grant that he is pretty smart, (though I am suspicious that he is not smart enough to have graduated 1st in his West Point class without cheating.)

    Take a smart person who wisely uses lying, cheating, and stealing without any remorse as a means to outcompete his friends and enemies alike, and you have someone who, with a little luck and without being caught, can slither their way to the top of some competetive hierarchies. These people are known as psychopaths, or more precisely, antisocial personality disorders.

    Do I respect psychopaths? No. They generally are purely takers, and make very few contributions to humanity. Additionally, I would like to believe in things like truth, honor, and justice, and no matter how “successful” these psychopaths are, they are complete and utter failures on criteria I value. Then again, most government officials score very low on those scales. Sadly, it almost seems that they must in order to obtain such positions. We are governed by psychopaths.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @turtle
  74. Rich says:
    @The scalpel

    What evidence do you have that Mr Pompeo is a psychopath? Look, you don’t like the guy’s politics, that’s okay, but why do you guys all of a sudden become Sigmund Freud and start psychoanalyzing people you’ve never met? It’s almost impossible to get through West Point cheating, lying or stealing. If anyone sees you doing anything even slightly dishonorable, they’ll rat you out faster than a Kapo would run to a German guard if he saw someone doing something wrong. The guy is obviously a very intelligent and hard working man who’s looked out at the world and drawn different conclusions than you. Doesn’t make him “evil” or a “psychopath”. Just makes him a powerful guy you don’t agree with.

  75. turtle says:
    @The scalpel

    am suspicious that he is not smart enough to have graduated 1st in his West Point class without cheating.

    Maybe not cheating, per se, but at least picking his (academic) battles.
    In my experience, it is frequently the case (though not always) that those who major in “management” are those who cannot hack it in a technical discipline, or choose not to work quite that hard.
    Evidently Harvard Law places great importance on undergraduate GPA.
    Speculation:
    An outstanding GPA in a soft major might carry more weight at Harvard than a lower GPA in a more demanding field. I emphasize this is speculation, as I do not actually know.

    I do know that I scored 786 out of 800 on LSAT in 1970 and was not admitted to Harvard Law. My undergraduate grades at a small technical school farther down the Charles were only average among my peers.

    • Replies: @The Scalpel
  76. All of the world’s religions can be associated with killings. They are either deeds of evil individuals, policy wrongs that do not involve direct murder, self defense or the defense of an attacked nation. Political policy can be rendered unto Cesar, while murder is accurately blamed on the individuals who do it. Mass murder is particularly evil, spawning military action that can affect innocents in other nations when it gets as heinous as the murdering of 3,000 innocent office workers on 9/11 by Muslims.

    Sure, Christians have done some heinous & barbaric things over the centuries. After making a big deal of religion, Henry the Eighth beheaded some of his wives.

    But when we get past what happened 500 years ago, we see a succession of evil mass murders committed in the recent past by non-Christian religious zealots, shouting Allah Akbar: the concert and nightclub massacres in France, England and America; the mass shooting of office workers on the American West Coast; the mass shootings & random mass stabbings in American Midwestern malls and in England; the Christmas market massacre in Germany; the mass murder of military personnel in office settings in the American South & the Midwest; the mass murder in Belgium; the bombing of a New England sporting event; the truck-ramming mass murders in France, Sweden and Canada; the mass murder of churchgoers in Sri Lanka, etc., etc, etc.

    World wars have been started over only one incident, with much less extensive losses of life.

    In some centuries, the beheading and stabbing by radical Islamic terrorists of two innocent, Danish girls, hiking in Morocco, or the beheading of an 85-year-old priest in the middle of mass might have provoked military action.

    The murderers who did all of those evil deeds (and others) in the last few years knew that they were taking the chance of a military response that might hurt innocent people in the non-Christian countries that they purport to care about, and yet, they still did it, showing that they regarded potential casualties in Muslim lands as collateral damage.

    The cause was the only thing that counted to them, not the people, even when the people were fellow Muslims.

    • Replies: @TKK
    , @a German
    , @anonymous
  77. bluedog says:
    @Rich

    No they use to rat you out, but like all things that are subject to change they have to,now it wasen’t so long ago that they had the very large cheating affair at west point,and to put it bluntly the man is a lying,cheating,stealing(his words when he worked for the C.I.A.) whore that would do anything to further his cause of hurrying along the rapture, that he and Pence and Bolton dream about.!!!

    • Replies: @Rich
  78. Rich says:
    @bluedog

    Do you guys really think men who have risen to the heights Pompeo, Pence, and Bolton have, aren’t realists? Don’t you think that if they wanted to be ministers, they’d have followed a different path? I can’t read other people’s minds, but I sincerely doubt any of the three you mentioned is trying to bring about the “rapture”. That’s just silly. They simply see Israel as a close ally and some of the Islamic nations as enemies as well as seeing various other states as friends or enemies. You have your opinion on how the world should be run, I have mine and they have theirs, that’s just the way it.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Duckie
  79. FB says: • Website
    @Rich

    Pence, Pompeo realists…?

    Are you living in Disneyland…?

    You haven’t figured out yet that the more you are immune to reality, the better your chances in DC…?

    Tell me one single thing that Pompeo or Pence has ever said or done that is even remotely connected to reality…

    Trump is capable of spurts of realism, I’m convinced of that…but those impulses are quickly blocked and checked by the likes of Pompeo and Pence…

    Look at the North Korea debacle…it was Porker Pompeo that torpedoed that last summit…Trump was going to remove him from the DPRK file, but Porker announces to the world that he ‘can’t’ be sidelined…directly contradicting the POTUS…how fucking ‘realistic’ is that…?

    So once again the latest Korea initiative is set to sink, despite a president who is a realist…problem is he’s surrounded by complete fantasists like Pompeo…

  80. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Rich

    “What evidence do you have that Mr Pompeo is a psychopath?”

    Well, I have his behavior, which, owing to the fact that he is a public figure is, well, public knowledge. For one, he brags about his ability to lie,cheat, and steal. For two, he does those things without remorse.

    Also,I have the DSM IV

    https://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/pn.39.1.0025a

    Read it yourself and see if you agree.

    True, I don’t like his politics BECAUSE he is dangerous – a psycopath

    • Replies: @Rich
  81. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @turtle

    You are correct. I was at West Point the same time as Plumpeo. In those days, there were 2 academic divisions MSE and BSL which stood for Math, Science, and Engineering and Behavioral Sciences and Leadership aka Bullshit and Lies. (Seriously that’s what we called it). For MSE guys like me, when we had to take a BSL course like management, it was usually a breather and a relatively easy “A” versus our MSE courses, so you might have a point there.

  82. turtle says:

    I was at West Point the same time as Plumpeo.

    Do you know the man personally?
    I do not know size of class at West Point.

    Bullshit and Lies. (Seriously that’s what we called it)

    Sounds appropriate to me.

    In my opinion, Benjamin Nutandyahoo is another “piece of work” in the same mold .
    Born in 1949
    SB (Course IV – Architecture) MIT 1975
    SM (Course XV – Management) 1976
    Both IV & XV would be considered “soft” majors compared to School of Science or School of Engineering.
    Just smart enough to think he can BS the rest of the world.
    Lives by making a career of deceit.
    At least one known alias.

    No surprise he and Pompous-e-o are best buds.

    turtle
    Born 1949
    SB MIT 1970 (School of Science)*
    Graduated in June, turned 21 in September
    Junior author of one published scientific paper for undergraduate work.

    *I would state my Course #, but prefer to retain a degree of anonymity on this site.
    There are only a few possibilities, all of which are tougher than Architecture or the Sloan School.
    Sloanies actually had “coat and tie practice,” in which they were required to play “dress up” and carry a briefcase to class on certain days. Most of the rest of us thought that was rather silly.

    • Replies: @anon
  83. Rich says:
    @The scalpel

    If that’s what you’re going by, every single national leader throughout history is a psychopath. And maybe that’s true, but who cares? The world is what it is and we have to deal with its realities. You may be a pacifist, another may believe the Israelis are the problem, Pompeo and his fellows disagree with you. I don’t think that makes them any “crazier” than anyone else. And I have to give the man his due, he has done very well for himself.

    • Replies: @anon
  84. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    And I have to give the man his due, he has done very well for himself.

    (signed)
    Grandma Pompeo

    — and it was an accident that time he set fire to the dog and burned down the neighbor’s garage.

  85. anon[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    read E. Michael Jones’ The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit

    jewish revolutionary spirit = jews stirring up shit in your country

    • Replies: @Republic
  86. annamaria says:
    @G. Poulin

    It’s long to overdue to expose this fraud-in-Jesus.
    If Vatican excommunicates Tony Blair, the profiteer and mega-war criminal, and similar “Christian” arch-enemies of humanity, then your irritation would be vindicated. IF.

  87. anon[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @turtle

    turtle
    Born 1949
    SB MIT 1970 (School of Science)*
    Graduated in June, turned 21 in September

    good job

    be proud

    • Replies: @turtle
  88. One of your better pieces.

  89. Seraphim says:
    @anon

    Echoes of History,

    When will you stop wanking in public?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anonymous
  90. @Rich

    ‘What evidence do you have that Mr Pompeo is a psychopath? ‘

    He wants to start a war with Iran and thinks God appointed the US to protect Israel.

    He’s a psychopath.

    • Replies: @Rich
  91. anon[170] • Disclaimer says:

    There Are Christians Who Love and Christians Who Hate

    which kind are you, Fred?

    who shall judge you?

  92. @G. Poulin

    ‘Selective indignation at it again. Fred’s beloved Mexico witnessed scenes of horrific human sacrifice on a regular basis. But you won’t hear a peep from indignant Fred about any of that. In fact, I expect he would make excuses for it. Shit for brains.’

    If Pompeo had professed adherence to the faith of the Aztecs, you’d have a point.

    • Replies: @Anon
  93. Fred Reed: “This puts Evangelicals in the curious position of being pro-Israel but anti-Semitic. ”

    About as “anti-Semitic” as anyone who believes a Jew is God can be.

    Fred Reed: “So far as I am aware, Jews have no enthusiasm for conversion. ”

    Nor should they, as the doctrines of mercy, charity, racial suicide, and forsaking the material things of this world for reward in the next as found in Christianity are the antithesis of Judaism. Right wing Christians often complain that their churches have been hijacked by Jews, but from the Jewish point of view, attempts to convert them to Christianity must equally seem to them to be an attempt to hijack Judaism. They see it as a racial attack, which of course it is. They decline to join Christianity’s racial death cult. If white people had had such an instinct for racial self-preservation they never would have adopted Christianity as their religion.

    Fred Reed: “After an initial period of horror, the technique will be used to prevent disease, then to improve health or athleticism, then–eeek!–intelligence and, finally behavior. Don’t think so? Bet me.”

    Okay, Pollyanna, I’ll bet. I’m predicting “the initial period of horror” will never end. “Improving” behavior will involve coding extreme, groveling submissiveness to authority into the human genome. Perfection of such techniques will herald a future of an Orwellian boot stomping on a human face, forever; but only if we are foolish enough to imagine such genetically modified organisms will still be human.

    • Replies: @Kent Watanabe
  94. @Brabantian

    ‘…The Asian spiritual pathways are much better ….’

    They tend to produce surprisingly similar casualty lists.

  95. Seraphim says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Mr. Edward Peters seems to be slightly wrong:

    Exodus 32:28: “And the sons of Levi did as Moses spoke to them, and there fell of the people in that day to the [number of] three thousand men”.
    Numbers 25:8-9: “So the plague against the Israelites was halted, 9but those who died in the plague numbered 24,000”.

    But do not let truth stand in the way of a good story.

  96. turtle says:
    @anon

    No big deal.
    I was, and am, no more than an average “Tech Tool,” one of ~1000 in my graduating class.
    Similar academic performance to the Venable Mr. Reed who wrote this article, or Dr. “scalpel.”
    And of course, there are many classes, and many schools, packed with men (and women) of similar ability.
    None of us are likely to be impressed by the likes of Pompeo and his disgusting ilk.
    Bozos of his distinctly small caliber will just have to peddle their execrable BS somewhere else.
    Mars perhaps, if he can make weight, which I doubt.

  97. America needs a no nonsense hero to save it from itself! Especially now that people like Golden Liar, penice, Pimpeo and neocon Boltonski are at the helm. We badly need a reincarnated Elliot Ness to kick these gangsters in the ass!

  98. Seraphim says:
    @dearieme

    It is ironic that the legend of Peter as the first bishop of Rome (he nevertheless went to Rome) has obscured the secure tradition that the first bishop of Rome was Linus, the son of Claudia Rufina, a… Briton lady (“caeruleis […] Britannis edita” – “sprung from the blue Britons”! at Martial). Claudia was the daughter of the famous British resistance leader Caratacus, kept hostage at Rome as many Briton leaders like Tincomarus, Dubnovellaunus, Adminius and Verica! A red-haired, blue-eyed lady! We have ‘Whites’ who abandoned their ‘pagan’ ways and became Christians from the very beginning! And that’s what the Brits adamantly believed and boasted for centuries. That they have been the first Christian country! No much water under the bridge of the ‘Norse’.
    The ‘Apostolic Constitutions say’ (Book VII):
    ” Now concerning those bishops which have been ordained in our lifetime, we let you know that they are these… Of the church of Rome, Linus the son of Claudia was the first, ordained by Paul; and Clemens, after Linus’ death, the second, ordained by me Peter”.

  99. There Are Christians Who Love and Christians Who Hate

    No, Fred, there are no Christians who hate. By definition, Christians don’t hate. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian and also hates, is a liar.

    There are a lot of liars out there, aren’t there?

  100. Benedetti says:

    Don’t call Pence a Catholic. He is an apostate.

  101. Stogumber says:

    Mr. Reed is no Christian himself and reads too much popular invectives against Christians.

    The decisive point of Christianity is that we all try to live as if the kingdom of Christ starts immediately. We, as the saying goes, try to be “prepared”. This is in no way a particularity of Evangelicals.
    Whereas the people of the world live as if the kingdom of Christ, even if it comes in some billion years, in unimportant for themselves.
    Leftist Protestant are much more radical pro Israel than Evangelicals. In fact, Leftist Protestant argue that the people of Israel must not even convert, because Christianity was destined to be nothing else than “Judaism light”, a second-hand edition of Judaism for infants. This of course is a position from which it is rather simple to smear the Evangelicals – but why should we take part in this kind of inside catfighting?

  102. Svigor says:

    What the fuck would you know about it, 9/10ths dead fred?

  103. Not very deep. A more interesting question would be: what makes humans fired up with energies so they are ready to sacrifice their lives for something abstract? It is easy to understand most Roman or Mongol conquests – struggle with adversarial neighbors, chance to plunder & get rich & get their women etc.

    It is much more interesting to ask: what made millions of Europeans in the 17th C so angry & militant over whether transubstantiation or consubstantion is “right”?

    • Agree: TKK
  104. chris says:

    … Pence and Pompeo. They are amoral Christians. They are cruel Christians. They are evil Christians.

    These evil clouns are the reverse of the amoral preacher caught in bed with a prostitute. The amoral preacher is a hypocrite because he preaches morals but practices imorality; Pompeo and Pence practice morality in their personal dealings (at least Pence does) but preach amorality in their active support for the mass murder which they help the emprire to continue.

  105. Lin says:
    @Brabantian

    Exactly what are religions?
    When the modern pondered what’s happening up in the sky, they tried to formulate modern science and then TV series like Star Wars..
    The(pre-science)ancients were battered by the elements, diseases, natural calamities and try to seek answers but the ancients lacked scientific temperament….
    They looked at the sky and said someone up there were watching us and we would better behave. The tribal patriarchs, for their own power as well as unity of the tribes, saw the potential of such speculation, fashioned some kind of patriarchs in the sky to be worshipped and lay down some rules like:
    –Infidels(ie other tribes)are evil and are to be killed or conquered or enslaved.
    –Faggotry is bad because number/fertility is tribal strength
    –Mother/sister fucking is only allowed when the tribe is very small in number.
    Of course those celestrial patriarchs also need more earthly lieutenents(partly because of the need to tag the rival tribes as ‘evil’), so some earthy entities were added to the veneration list, like dead patriarchs(uplifted to sit beside the heavenly patriairch), birds(later promoted to angels), fierce animals, trees, air current(wind)or even domesticated animals…
    …………………
    Then those religions went into problems and luminaries like Jesus, Buddha tried to reform those older religions. Those were history but their historical impacts linger.
    ……
    Nowadays religions basically manifest as:
    1)vehicle of civilizational influence. Islam is a very good example. Arabic is the language of Islamic paradise and the man with the final say on the future of mankind is also an arab. Almost all the Islamic customs and taboos like halal diet, burqa ..were originally arab cultural components.
    (Also true to some extend with Christianity but relatively mild in this regard when compared to Islam; for example there’re overall no restriction on language of prayer, costume, diets.. in Christianity.)
    –Shiite Islam(practiced by Persians)is a dilution of such power so is hated for that.
    –The Salafi Saudis are said to be most religious yet they allied with the infidel Brits and French during WW1 to defeat the Muslim Ottoman Empire. Religious treason of the worst kind may I say but yet fine with them, hahah

    2)A tool of population conformity control or theocracy. Examples abound in the judeo-christian tradition, like the ‘golden Calf’ internal ethnic cleansing during Exodus and routine execution of ‘pagans’ in late Roman empire and medieval Europe.
    –Apostasy in Islam is worse than ‘race treason’ and the apostates are usually disowned by their families
    –Why the Hindu nationalist emphasize so much on their religion? Well, what hold a country together? Same ‘race’? Share the same language? Share the same historical lineage? Share the same ‘religion’?…throw in yours..
    One can see that the hindus are lacking in major areas except religion and that explain their emphasize on ‘hinduwah’ and deny ‘aryan invasion’ ever took place.

    3)Embodiment of racial/tribal history/identity. Judaism is the most obvious in these aspects. Does ‘chosen people’ ring a bell?

    4)Cement of racial/caste pyramid. Hinduism is the perfect example.
    Hinduism is basically race segregation scheme imposed by the ‘aryan’ conquerors on the vanquished sub-continent natives with ‘spiritual’ veneers like reincarnation and the folk lores to indoctrinate the meek. You’re a dalit and life is miserable? Well, you did something evil in your previous incarnation. ‘Spirituality’,’dharma’ are sugar coating catch words of hindu nationalists.
    I’m not spreading anti-hindu propaganda, the former indian prime minister Mr. Singh is more blunt: He compares it to south African apartheid.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/28/india.mainsection

    5)Now to the average individuals, its often just a tag or justification for certain stand. A women wearing hijab in a kufir country like USA means waving a placard:”I’m not going to be assimulated’.
    A white US prole saying he/she wants to defend ‘Christian values’ often means he/she doesn’t like non-white immigrants or like in the case of Bolton and Pompeo, to bomb the fuck of the arabs, muslims or whoever stand in the way of US imperial hegemony.
    …………….
    I’m NOT an atheist for simple reason: Humans are tiny beings in the universe and there must be entities with power and wisdom so immense we can’t fathom. But as I said, these omnipotent entities might not have the best of human welfare in mind. If God is a biologist and humans are micro-organism in ‘HIS’ petri dish EARTH, ‘HE’ will toss the petri dishes into the HELL incinerator when the experiment is done.
    ……………
    Being said, Humans might not be able to do without religions for ages to come but religions like in the past will evolve into new versions. You will never know, Lucifer/Shaitan might sign a peace treaty with Yahweh and settle down the disputes to the dismay of ‘modern’ Christians, muslims…

  106. Herald says:
    @Bragadocious

    When you have listed out Pompeo’s accomplishments, will you grade them as good, bad etc?

  107. As matters stand, followers of the “religion of peace” are being mowed down by the millions by adherents of the “religion of love”, in some instances (Yemen, Syria, Libya) aided by adherents of the “religion of peace” —- cheerfully armed by subscribers to the “religion of love”. Love’s thirst for blood seems endless with the most bloodthirsty being leaders who are committed followers of the “religion of love”. It’s trickle down hate and murder from the “religion of love”. And if followers of the “religion of peace” had their way, the reverse bloodletting would hold.

  108. A few days ago the news broke about the Misha stele (discovered in 1868 near the Dead Sea) not containing any historical reference to ‘the house of David’ but to King Balak of Moab who in the Scriptures is known for having asked Balaam to curse the children of Israel. So outside the Scriptures there is still no historical evidence for King David to have existed. In the comments under this excellent rant by Fred Reed many do interpret the Bible misguidedly as if it contains historical evidence (about lots & lots of cruelties etc.). Well, the Scriptures were composed and edited with its final redaction taking place around AD 200 in Tiberias (so the so-called ‘Old Testament’ is actually newer than the first letters of the apostle Paul). So what is ‘historical’ and what is ‘rewritten’?

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  109. nebulafox says:

    “Let me say emphatically, like the overwhelming majority of my constituents, my Christian faith compels me to cherish the state of Israel.”

    I assume your coreligionists in Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon are what the military calls “collateral damage”.

    “Israel’s enemies are our enemies”

    No, they aren’t, at least they do not have to be. Iran’s government is deeply hostile to the US, but they don’t want war with us. And in some cases, our interests coincide.

    Israel’s cause is our cause.”

    What cause? It’d be news to most Israelis that their cause is being there so that Jesus can return.

    They care about their own country. End of story. Like anybody sane and honest. Their cause is to pursue their own nation’s interests, which, being a foreign nation, are *different* from the United States!

    “If this world knows nothing else, let it know this: America stands with Israel.”

    In the Muslim World, not having any contact with Western political correctness, a lot of people on the street will casually assume the US government and media is heavily influenced or outright controlled by Jews. Public statements like this by the GOP probably is part of why. What else explains slavish devotion to a foreign country without anything visibly significant in return by the most powerful nation on the planet?

    Telling them about the politics of evangelical Christianity in the US is always interesting.

    • Replies: @anon
  110. “This was not the Christianity of Jimmy Carter or Mother Theresa. It is the Christianity of Mike Pence and Pompeo.”

    Go ahead and say it, this is Zionist Christianity, which has absolutely nothing to do with the teachings of the Christ character.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
  111. Republic says:
    @Ray Huffman

    The Mexicans built it. I have taken that route. It connects the Pacific coast to the Atlantic. It is a toll road but the last time I crossed it, I got in free,because local peasants were blocking the road due to protests.

    Lots of small scale local demonstrations occur daily in Mexico which pass unnoticed, but which in the US would be crushed by the state.

    So Mexico is a combination of high technology and lawlessness.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  112. Republic says:
    @Anonymous

    India, the world’s largest open air toilet is making progress!

  113. Republic says:
    @KenH

    it also has the most bookstores per square mile of any nation.

    Actually it has the lowest reading rate among the 36 member OECD nations.

  114. “They are amoral Christians. They are cruel Christians. They are evil Christians.”

    I prefer to call them armegeddonists.

    American christianity is the most dangerous religion on earth.

    American christianity is an omnicidal death cult.

    Their bloodlust is insatiable.

    If they have their way they will kill us all.

    Dear good lord baby jesus, all tiny and yet still so omnipotent, please rapture your crazy followers away from this earth of ours so we can finally live in peace. Amen

  115. Pence and Pompeo and Trump are not Christians, Christians do not promote war and bombing and killing of civilians and do not help cover the crimes of Israel including the Israeli attack on 911, these are SATANISTS!

    • Agree: Republic
  116. Republic says:
    @polaco

    there is no proof of an Iron Maiden device ever having been used,

    It was invented in Greece and offered for sale to the local tyrant who then tested it on its inventor!

  117. Republic says:
    @anon

    a great book, it explains a lot of things

  118. Ram says:

    Pompeo’s Judeo-Christian values as revealed by him, – “we lie, we cheat. we steal”. I am sure there are others that he failed to reveal.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  119. @turtle

    “By contrast, Mr. Reed is one of these:
    https://www.marines.com/who-we-are/our-values.html
    DUCTUS EXEMPLO
    A Latin term that means “lead by example,””

    So we should all move to Mexico and pretend like it’s the greatest place to live in the world?

    Further ironic is that the Marine Corps motto is Semper Fidelis, meaning “always faithful.” I’m not sure how you say it in Mexican.

  120. @nickels

    Muslims don’t “profess to know better”? If you don’t like Christians or Christianity, okay, but don’t make things up to make it sounds like other religions and cultures don’t suffer from hypocrisy and other moral failings as well. We’re all human and fallible and flawed.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  121. @turtle

    Please get on the ballot in California so I can vote for you. Well said!

  122. @Anonymous

    Great news. Now could you please pick up the phone and ask them all to stop coming to the US?

  123. @KenH

    Kiko, like all of the European elites that run Mexico, would prefer that the icky mestizo class take their degeneracy north of border. But don’t forget the remittances!

  124. Fred: This puts Evangelicals in the curious position of being pro-Israel but anti-Semitic.

    Seriously, Fred? For someone to love the Jews and pray that they come to recognize that Yeshua (Jesus) was/is the promised Messiah means they are anti-Semetic? A true Christian would hope that every person came to the realization of that truth, whether Jew or Gentile.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  125. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    don’t know about the numb ers
    but Marcion had the right idea
    remove judaizers from the new.

    don’t mix molded bread with clean.

    those who call themselves christian
    and are not.

  126. @Ray Huffman

    when jesus said “it is finished” the new covenant started…the chosen are now like everybody else..the old covenant and the law were never for gentiles..jews must decide to put faith in christ or be condemned which they are right now…john 3:17-18…in other words the old is over..the new is in effect right now….i did meet some messianic jews online.. they have accepted jesus as messiah but they also keep thier customs..which i dont understand that part.the new covenant is the divideing line..the old is obsolete..by the way i stay out of the old testament as much as i can..cant mix old with new..a doubleminded man is unstable in all ways..book of james

    • Replies: @anonymous
  127. @dearieme

    Wherever the true home of Christians today is, it cannot be an institution infested with active homosexuals, perverters of young men, liars, hiders, advocates for the Islamic conquest of Europe, excusemakers for every kind of savage flooding Europe and the USA, and led by “men” with no wives, no children, and none of the loves and sacrifices / duties and fulfillments of a normal healthy man.

    You know, the “church”, or should I saw sodomite sex club / extremist anti white political cadre / money-laundering system of Jorge Bergoglio and his boyfriends.

    How could Protestants possibly turn away from that one true church. The heretics.

    • Replies: @Anon
  128. Agent76 says:

    Matthew 7:13 But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it. Luke 13:24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able.

    Dec 1, 2018 Catholicism & Christianity – The Shocking Difference

    Ray Comfort explains the very important difference between biblical Christianity and Catholicism.

    Aug 1, 2010 One Minute Sermon

    This lady says more in one minute than some preachers say in an hour. I love this!

  129. wholy1 says:

    “Institutional Christians” have nothing remaining in common with what JC accomplished/revealed. Both of said “organisms” are CRIMINAL State, United SNAKES CORP, D[e]C[eit] indigenous Turd-Pond sludge-dwellers/feeders.

  130. anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    “Let me say emphatically, like the overwhelming majority of my constituents, my Christian faith compels me to cherish the state of Israel.”

    lol, Pence said this?

    do these cucks ever think about they are doing and who benefits?

    if their all powerful and mighty GOD really cared about them why would he want them to be second-class dick suckers of the jew?

  131. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Spanish Inquisition was very mild in comparison with other european branches of the Inquisition ( and in comparison with present CIA ) . They watched mainly jews , pseudoconvert jews , moslems , and heretic protestants ( which created the ” black legend ” of propaganda against Spain )

    Spain had 3 centuries of social peace and progress during the Inquisition period ( from the Catholic Kings around 1500 , to the criminal invasion of Spain by Napoleon in 1808 ) . Spain was free from the bloody wars and economic ruin that the protestants provoqued in central Europe . Spain was able to colonized America during that period ,with just a population of about 10 million inhabitants .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

    Just the german ( always the germans ) Inquisition killed about 50.000 ” witches ”

    https://qz.com/1183992/why-europe-was-overrun-by-witch-hunts-in-early-modern-history/

    Al these torture instruments of the museum of Zacatecas were never used by the Spanish Inquisition , it is just ” black legend ” propaganda against Mexico and Spain , they were made in Germany . Just the 30 year war ( 1618-1648 ) killed between 4 and 5 million people in Central Europe , one third of the german population was killed . The french , Napoleon , killed 500.000 spaniards in the invasion of Spain in 1808 . The Spanish inquisition executed around 3000 people in 3 centuries . so .

    • Replies: @anon
  132. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Many self called catholics in the USA are not real catholic , they profess the heresy of ” americanism ” condemned by the Pope , see :
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanism_(heresy)

  133. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Yes , Napoleon said that one priest was more effective than 20 policemen for the control of society .

    But one question : do you prefer to pay taxes for one priest or for 20 policemen ?

    • Replies: @Realist
  134. Duckie says:
    @Rich

    Yeah, right.
    And so in agreement with you, we would say, Hitler just saw the world a bit differently than most people at the time, just saying you know.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Rich
  135. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t know whether he really thinks “God appointed the US to protect Israel”, has he actually said this? And if he said it, was it for the purpose of gaining political advantage with two very powerful American constituencies, the Evangelicals and Jews, or does he actually believe it? And does it matter? The Israelis are a mostly European people who share many of the values of the rest of the European people and although they are a bit better at protecting their group identity, they are no threat to the US and are actually helpful in many circumstances. A bit too powerful in the US? Yes, just like the Anglo-Americans used to be when they forced the US into 2 world wars that we had very little business being involved in.

    As to the Iran question, I favor free trade with Iran and infecting them with our degenerate Western ways through more contact, but there is a legitimate argument for war. The Iranians are the prime enemy of our closest ally in the region, Saudi Arabia, they support forces that are opposed to our agenda, namely the Petrodollar, and their leadership is severely anti-American. Many strategists believe that as long as the US didn’t try to occupy and “civilize” the country, we could easily defeat them, seize their coastline and secure the petrodollar for years to come. Doesn’t make Pompeo a psychopath to share that opinion.

  136. @Hannah Katz

    ‘Fred: This puts Evangelicals in the curious position of being pro-Israel but anti-Semitic…

    It’s debatable if the position is curious. If I was murderously anti-semitic, I could think of worse plans for a ‘final solution’ than to encourage all the Jews to go to a narrow strip of semi-desert and then proceed to continuously attack, humiliate, and enrage all their neighbors without actually disabling any of them.

    Put that way, the outcome is predictable, isn’t it? ‘Go Israel’ could be argued to be a pretty anti-semitic slogan. Wave that white ‘n blue…

  137. TKK says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Anytime an individual starts talking about “where the Holy Spirit leads me ”…. I quickly look for the closest escape route.

    There are so many atrocious aspect of that statement it would be hard to get started.

    The first is the incontrovertible fact that Jesus Christ was a Marxist- he was a hard-core anti-capitalist. Personal prosperity was not on his radar. Sacrifice and pain was his game.

    Sitting in a heated or cooled sanctuary, with a latte wearing a sweater and smiling at friends is not what Christianity was. It was fighting corruption, defending wh*res and facing painful deaths for your belief.

    Therefore, if you live in a comfortable home and drive a nice car and have a cozy lifestyle, and you see your brother does not have what he needs-

    It is mandated by Jesus Christ that you must give away what you have.

    This is not debatable. Go back and read red line versions of Mark.

    Secondly, think of the monstrous egotism that you believe a Holy Ghost is talking just to you. That you are so important than others- that you are not just a speck in the abyss of the universe.

    You believe that a benevolent omniscient being is communicating with you.

    There are no Christians. No one is good.

    The universe is chaos greed and murder.

    It’s a horrifying place where the most you can hope for is a few moments of pleasure or peace and a calm death.

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
    , @Art
  138. anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    the entire Inquisition was very mild compared to, for example, the Ukrainian Holodomor and yet one has been thoroughly studied and oft mentioned and the other?

  139. Sean says:

    They are loyal to Israel because it is essential to the end of the world.

    As recently as the Nixon presidency the Catholic Church was the “Religious Right”, now it is Evangelicals. Israel is backed for geopolitical reasons of state, and yes, domestic political expediency. Never forget that the dictates of geopolitical realism are veiled in moralistic platitudes about human decency just as much as domestic political expediency is.

    International politics is not missionary work. A Christian’s faith tells him no more about his work as a politician than it would about how to be a chemist. There are well understood deleterious consequences to allowing a enemy ally in ones backyard, and so to prevent WW3 there have to be small wars in which you demonstrate your willingness to back an ally. An ally that is a pacifist is useless. It is no different in a school yard, or a prison.

    Christians? These Christians support a war on Yemen in which huge numbers of people are dying of mutilation, cholera, and starvation, a war they could stop with a telephone call. They similarly support butchery of Afghans from the air, massive killing in Syria, bombing of Somalis, and torture chambers around the world. Such is their Christianity. They lack even a shred of human decency. But they are Christians.

    Yes. Because that is way the real world, in which countries are organised in nation states that look after themselves, actually works.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  140. TKK says:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    Agree. It all comes back to ego and a medieval belief that some delights await them after their butchery other than a never ending dirt nap.

    Or they could be bat sh*t bonkers.

    In the South, you have these repulsive obese men and women, who’d stab you over a buck and gossip is their life force, but they are in church constantly.

    They boldly display these shirts and bumper stickers-

    Blessed!

    and

    God is so Good!!!

    Now, these people chain up their dogs, can’t identify Yemen on a map and only have charity toward their repellent spawn. They are aggressively ignorant and have not an ounce of shame that they pontificate in world matters and have never been further than Myrtle Beach.

    If there was an ounce of cosmic justice, they should have the brakes beat off them on sight by a “ Holy Ghost”.

    What a con.

  141. wayfarer says:
    @The scalpel

    “Don’t Let The Bastards Getcha Down” by Joachim Hagopian.
    http://www.redredsea.net/westpointhagopian/prologue.htm

  142. Realist says:
    @Anon

    But one question : do you prefer to pay taxes for one priest or for 20 policemen ?

    It’s not a binary situation.

  143. Jf says:
    @G. Poulin

    If the Aztecs were a powerfull influence in politics today your argument would be valid. As things are you are Just being silly.

    • Replies: @TKK
  144. Christian Zionists are insane heretics.
    The nose is the enemy of the Gospel and this was the solid theology of the church for 1900 years
    until Darby and Scofield introduced the zionist heresy.

    The formation of the state of Israel in 1948 had nothing to do with the will of God, and I suspect it’s the other side in the driver’s seat.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  145. Jmaie says:

    Whatever Pompeo’s shortcomings, the guy’s resume is top-notch: first in his class at West Point, STEM degree, Harvard law, veteran, successful businessman, yada yada….No way he believes this stuff.

    If the choice is whether he’s a true believer of nonsense or is conning folks…he should be nowhere near the levers of power.

  146. Jmaie says:

    In that case, the project engineer was Japanese, and the bridge sections were fabricated in (South) Korea, as was the wire for the suspension cables.

    Sourcing material from Korea was not for quality, in fact much of the wire had to be replaced because it corroded before use. It was all about the Benjamins, baby.

    • Replies: @turtle
  147. milan says:

    @ Fred Reed,

    First thank you for this essay and though I am a Chrsitian I know full well what you are speaking about. That is why one of my greatest hero’s was the late and great Dr. Walter Martin and if you or any other want a true taste of Christianity listen to what this man had to say. It is an encourgement like no other.

    https://binged.it/2H1G4cH

    https://binged.it/2H1RNrG

    Further to this are the teachings of one Dr. Peter Kuzmic

    http://www.croatia.org/crown/articles/10504/1/Dr-Peter-Kuzmic-authority-on-Christian-response-to-Marxism-and-on-Christian-ministry-in-post-Communist-contexts.html

    As for what is termed Chrsitian Zonism no group of people needs to be stopped and stopped immedialtely than them. Hopefully that will shortly come to pass with the books by Gerry Fox entitled Lies all Lies and Climate Change the wWork of God.

  148. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Bragadocious

    Pompeo is an evil, stupid man.

    I don’t give a damn about his credentials.

  149. Anon[235] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Jewish globalists are gonna have to face the music one of these days.

  150. Anon[235] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    When were Christians ever Christian?

    When they massacred tons of people in South America? When the wiped out Indians in North America? When the waged endless imperialist wars?

    Christians were like any other people. Violence, avaricious, hypocritical.

    As for the Christians who were truly Christian, they were weeded out. People who turn the other cheek and love their enemy don’t last long. Hypocrites have better chance of survival, so hypochristians came to dominate Christianity.

    • Replies: @milan
  151. Rich says:
    @Duckie

    Uh oh, you said “Hitler”, guess you win… But do you mean the comic book villain Hitler, or the German leader of early in the last century? I’ve noticed that many people are unable to differentiate between the two.

  152. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but nevertheless woe to that man by whom the scandal cometh.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  153. neocons suck, we all know it, what is the point of this article. no different than “Blacks have a high crime rate!” article number 18,371.

    what fred will never write about is mexico, which is now the murder capital of the world. and that mexicans are stupid, dumb, and lazy. which is fine on it’s own. who’s to say they shouldn’t be the way they want to be, in their own nation.

    the main issue is that MEXICANS are the number 1 threat to the united states. not neocons, russia, china, israel, or even nut job leftists.

    the more mexicans come to the US, the further towards the democrats the national vote moves, and eventually that will tip over the entire ship. mexicans voting democrat has put nut job leftists into permanent control of lots of the US and the vessel is listing near the water line. one more democrat president, thanks to mexicans, and that’s it for america.

    put that in your pipe and smoke it, fred.

    serious question. did fred ever write about all the foreign adventures of obama? i get the sense he barely did. or if he did, it was couched as “the US” doing this or that, and never directly about the commander in chief.

    • Agree: Republic
  154. Amen says:
    @Bragadocious

    Reminds me of the book Best and Brightest about all the Ivy League grads in the Kennedy administration. They were the geniuses who got us into the Vietnam war.

    The two worst presidents of all time – Bushobama, both went to Harvard. I make it a point to never again vote for another Harvard grad for POTUS. The only exception will be when Kris Kobach runs for president.

  155. Amen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    There’s a good chance that the Trump administration is a last hurrah for the Israel First agenda.

    For America’s survival I pray you are right.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  156. Amen says:
    @Amerimutt Golem

    In fact Luther, the founder of Protestantism, was initially a ‘Zionist’ till he saw the ‘light’, prompting him to pen On the Jews and Their Lies (Von den Juden und ihren Lügen) . The modern apostate Lutheran church has since been compromised.

    Maybe that’s why the Lutheran Church has become the #1 sponsor of Muslim refugees, hence the new Somalia in Lutheran dominant MN, or Scandinavia.

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend, only this time, they are two sides of the same coin.

  157. i just sifted thru the last 8 years of fred’s columns, checking all the military columns, where fred whines and complains about the US military at great length, and i did a control-F for “obama”.

    zero results, as expected.

    fred is a fraud.

  158. milan says:
    @Anon

    @ Anon

    As for the Christians who were truly Christian, they were weeded out.

    You speak no greater truth, in fact, look only three are mentioned as being worthy of being saved at one time? 3 people? Wow!!!!

    “The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its people and their animals, even if these three men—Noah, Daniel and Job—were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord.” (Ezekiel 14:12–14)

    What was it that Jesus said? Be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect.

  159. TKK says:
    @Jf

    AOC= Aztec

    • Replies: @Anon
  160. Anon[235] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin

    But lack of enthusiasm for Israel doesn’t mean antipathy.

    Also, as long as Jewish elites buy off the heads of POC, they get what they want. Maybe most blacks and browns are not crazy about Jews or Israel, but black and brown elites suck up to Jews in places like California. The head controls the body.

  161. Amen says:
    @Anonymous

    Most of these people are only pro-Israel because the Israel lobby has the money and the power. If the Israel lobby loses both, these snakes will fall out of love with Israel in an instant. It isn’t true love. Nobody loves the Jews. They’ve had to buy love throughout history, that’s why they’re so money hungry.

    As the first Jewish Fed chair since WWII, Alan Greenspan drastically cut interest rates in the early 90’s then kept them low for an extended period of time to facilitate the biggest transfer of wealth from main street to Jew occupied Wall Street over the next 2 decades. That’s when Jewish power really took off.

    And when Silicon Valley began to threaten Wall Street as the new money center in the 2000’s, Jews moved in and took over SV as well, as private equity investors funding mostly Jew run firms. As a bonus SV also became the center of new media, which gives them the tools for censorship and cyber spying the world over. So now they control both old and new media as well as old and new money. It’s all as God intended for his Chosen.

  162. Amen says:
    @Realist

    I would not consider a degree in engineering management a STEM degree

    LOL, talk about a bullshit STEM degree. Plus a true engineer/scientist/mathematician would *never* go into law.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Realist
  163. turtle says:
    @Jmaie

    in fact much of the wire had to be replaced because it corroded before use.

    Yes, I am aware of that.
    AFAIK, the replacement product was provided by the original supplier.
    They made good on their contract, in other words.

    It was all about the Benjamins, baby.

    Absolutely.
    Put another way, the Korean supplier was able to compete on price, and made good on quality.
    I do not know what, if any, U.S. firms are still in the wire and cable business.

    As you may know, the wire for the Golden Gate bridge cables was supplied and installed by John Roebling’s Sons of Trenton, NJ, who were pioneers in this type of construction.
    http://goldengate.org/exhibits/exhibitarea4_6.php
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Roebling%27s_Sons_Company,_Trenton_N.J.,_Block_3
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Roebling

    At that time (1930s), I believe it is accurate to say the U.S. was the unchallenged leader in such projects. Times have changed, however, and there are now other players in this world besides the U.S. It is not 1945 any more.

    Personal note:
    My grandfather’s boss was Mary G. Roebling.
    https://rutgersscholar.libraries.rutgers.edu/volume01/perrgodw/perrgodw.htm

  164. @Rich

    ‘…The Israelis are a mostly European people who share many of the values of the rest of the European people and although they are a bit better at protecting their group identity, they are no threat to the US and are actually helpful in many circumstances…’

    Score that one one out of five. Yes, they are ‘better at protecting their group identity.’ You could put it that way. So was the Golden Horde.

    However, no on ‘mostly European,’ no on ‘share many of the values,’ no on ‘no threat to the US,’ and no on ‘are actually helpful in many circumstances.’

    I find people who actually defend Israel morally nauseating.

    • Replies: @Rich
  165. @Anatoly Karlin

    ‘…There’s a good chance that the Trump administration is a last hurrah for the Israel First agenda.’

    I think the key change Trump has wrought — and a good deal of the reason I voted for him — is that with Trump, Israel is becoming a partisan issue.

    Pre-Trump — and this would have continued had the Clintoness won — Israel had reached the status motherhood used to enjoy. Of course everyone was for it, and to oppose it was political suicide.

    Now that Israel is part of the Trump brand, the left is rebelling, and beginning to dare to look at Israel critically. Notice how none of the Democratic candidates turned up to grovel at AIPAC’s feet. That would have been unthinkable before Trump.

    Israel has become a partisan issue, and partisan issues get examined critically, and examined critically, Israel is dead.

  166. @Amen

    Well, Creepy Uncle Joe leads the demoncrat field at present, and he has repeatedly called himself a Zionist throughout the years. Their only candidate who may have the backbone to say NO to any more wars for Israel could be Tulsi Gabbard. It’s no surprise that the lyin’ despicable MSM is shunning her, just as they did Ron Paul.

    BTW, great column Fred Reed!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  167. chris says:

    This means that directing the foreign policy of the United States we have two fringe Christians, two Jews (Kushner and Ivanka) and an addled and easily led First Carrot. It means that Pompeo and Pence are driven not by practical consideration of the needs and well being of the United States but by loyalty to curious theological ideas and to a foreign country. They will do what fits these ideas.

    What an unnecessary cop-out ! Why stop with the first two ? Why not just say what we all know to be true, that its not just Pompeo and Pence but Kushner and Ivanka also who “are driven not by practical consideration of the needs and well being of the United States but by loyalty to curious theological ideas and to a foreign country.” ?

    (Whether theology really applies to Kushner and Ivanka or whether they are using religion as ways to a means would be irrelevant, of course )

  168. Republic says:

    Now that Israel is part of the Trump brand, the left is rebelling, and beginning to dare to look at Israel critically. Notice how none of the Democratic candidates turned up to grovel at AIPAC’s feet. That would have been unthinkable before Trump.

    excellent news!

  169. Realist says:
    @Amen

    Plus a true engineer/scientist/mathematician would *never* go into law.

    And damn few would go into the military.

    • Replies: @FB
  170. @follyofwar

    ‘Well, Creepy Uncle Joe leads the demoncrat field at present, and he has repeatedly called himself a Zionist throughout the years. Their only candidate who may have the backbone to say NO to any more wars for Israel could be Tulsi Gabbard. It’s no surprise that the lyin’ despicable MSM is shunning her, just as they did Ron Paul.’

    Assuming the fix is in, Biden will get the nomination, with Harris taking the VP slot. She’s the ‘progressive’ who has done the best job of fellating Israel. For her part, she’ll probably take the offer, on the calculation that this makes her heir apparent if Biden completes two terms, and President even sooner if he doesn’t.

    The media will swing into line behind the ticket, and the Trump bashing will reach a new crescendo.

    Heads they win, tails we lose.

  171. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    Thank you for the eloquently articulated holohoax denial.

  172. FB says: • Website
    @Realist

    This isn’t true…the air force looks for potential cadets that have strong math aptitude…the academy curriculum is heavy on math and physics…you cannot train airmen with humanities…those wishing to advance into sought after assignments…ie test pilots…must complete engineering degrees…

    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Realist
    , @wayfarer
  173. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    Have you ever met a Jew? A lot of them are as pale and red haired as a Scotsman, most of the rest can pass for Italian or Eastern European. Some even look like pure Germans. Here in NY Jews are just one of many White ethnicities and although more liberal on average, they are mostly family people with kids who are anti-crime and keep their neighborhoods clean. That strikes me as normal European values. If you think the Israelis are going to attack the US, you’re off your bird and the average Israeli, at least the ones I’ve met, love the US. They have been very helpful with intelligence in fighting Islamist extremists.

    None of this is means I am defending Israel, I am for the US, and when Israel is an ally, I support them, when they aren’t, I oppose them. It’s US interests I care about.

  174. Art says:

    Pompeo: “My Faith in Jesus Christ Makes a Real Difference”
    Pompeo says God may have sent Trump to save Israel from Iran
    “As a Christian, I certainly believe that’s possible,” said Mr. Pompeo….”I am confident that the Lord is at work here”

    Clearly Pompeo has abandoned his oath of office. There is supposed to be a separation between church and state. When Pompeo uses the term “my faith” in regards to US foreign policy – he is breaking his oath of office – end of story.

    He must resign – period!

    “As a Christian” — hmm – is Pompeo a real Christian – his allegiance is to the mean god of the Jews – not the forgiving God of Christ. By attacking Assad (who has protected Christians) he is taking the Israeli side against Christians.

    Pompeo and Pence and all the Christian Zionists are on the wrong side of Jesus. Read “The Sermon on the Mount” and tell us that those clowns are real true Christians. (99% of Christianity is about hope – not a dubious Armageddon.)

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. If your church preaches Armageddon – go to another church – you are being mislead.

    • Agree: turtle
    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  175. turtle says:
    @FB

    Not just AFA.
    Civilian aero/astro types also tend towards AF ROTC, in my ancient experience.

    U.S. Navy also recruits bulk of officer corps from ranks of recent university graduates.
    Those with engineering degrees get naval engineering duty.
    Science/math majors have other options, including command.
    (At least, that used to be the case – maybe things have changed.)

    • Agree: FB
  176. Z-man says:

    We have Pompeo, a malignant manatee looking to start wars in which he will not risk his flabby amorphous ass also parading his Christianity. Bolton, a mean sonofabitch who belongs in a strait jacket, at least doesn’t pose as someone having a soul. And the Golden Tufted Cocatoo, too weak to control those around him, preening and tweeting. God save us.

    LOL and bears repeating. ‘Plumpeo’ and Bolton should be ‘drawn and quartered’. Pence only beaten badly. (Grin)
    I consider myself a good Christian, non practicing Catholic*, ok take a way the ‘good’ (grin), but I would like to see ‘Plumpy’ and walrus face Bolton both beaten to death with baseball bats. I would ‘pitch’ in, (evil grin). As much as I despise his stupid Christian Zionism Pence doesn’t deserve that fate. After all, he destroyed Clinton’s running mate in the VP debate so I’ll give him that.
    But yes Christian Zionism, the definition of OXYMORON!

    *How can I be a practicing Catholic when my Church is full of pedophiles and the head guy (see post 1 above) has a foot fetish, puke! Even some of the negros were embarrassed (probably for him) having him bow down and kiss their feet.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @chris
  177. Z-man says:

    The Golden Tufted Cocatoo, too weak to control those around him, preening and tweeting. God save us.

    True but he does contradict Bolton’s public pronouncements on a regular basis (after his conversation with Putin) so you have to think he is using walrus face Bolton to keep the Zionist beast at bay while being more practical. Any egg on Bolton’s face is ok by me.

  178. @Anon

    If I forget you, Jerusalem,
    may my right hand forget its skill.
    May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth
    if I do not remember you,
    if I do not consider Jerusalem
    my highest joy.
    . . .
    Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
    happy is the one who repays you
    according to what you have done to us.
    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @annamaria
    , @turtle
  179. Antipropo says:
    @G. Poulin

    Definitely a shit for brains, posting under G Poulin

  180. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Grace Poole

    So the pedos are the good guys then??

  181. DB Cooper says:
    @Art

    My advice is to stay away from religion, period.

  182. annamaria says:
    @Rich

    “They have been very helpful with intelligence in fighting Islamist extremists.”

    — By saving White Helmets and providing for ISIS “freedom fighters?” In addition, the Jewish Sate has been proactive in arming Ukrainian neo-Nazis. – Not a surprise for you?

    From “The Zionist Plan for the Middle East” https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
    to
    “How the U.S. Wrecked the Middle East: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-the-u-s-wrecked-the-middle-east/

    In between — PNAC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

    The History of US-Israel Relations: Against Our Better Judgment: https://ifamericaknew.org/us_ints/history.html

    • Agree: chris
  183. annamaria says:
    @Grace Poole

    The “infant” part is in particular dare to zionist hearts.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  184. Realist says:
    @FB

    This isn’t true…the air force looks for potential cadets that have strong math aptitude…the academy curriculum is heavy on math and physics…you cannot train airmen with humanities…those wishing to advance into sought after assignments…ie test pilots…must complete engineering degrees…

    Of course it’s true. Only a small percent of STEM graduates join the air force.

    The military is having a hard time recruiting STEM graduates.

    https://www.afcec.af.mil/News/CE-Online/Article-Display/Article/1003482/program-encourages-stem-scholars-to-pursue-air-force-careers/

    https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR659.html

    https://www.airforcetimes.com/education-transition/jobs/2015/05/20/top-air-force-scientist-more-stem-educated-troops-needed/

    • Replies: @FB
  185. @Rich

    ‘Have you ever met a Jew? ‘

    If only you knew…

    Have you ever met a Jew? Yemeni Jews look like Yemenis, Tunisian Jews look like Tunisians, and Polish Jews look like…Poles.

    There’s a point there, but I doubt if it’s the one you’re attempting to make.

  186. FB says: • Website
    @Realist

    No those articles don’t support your original contention, which I disputed…the air force is still doing better at getting technical people than the civilian sectors of society…where the shortage of hard science graduates is a disaster…I believe other branches of the military are also generally doing better than the civilian sector…which means the military is indeed a good career path for technical graduates…incidentally I prefer not to use the acronym STEM since this includes all kinds of silly pseudosciences…

    • Replies: @Realist
  187. @Rich

    ‘…As to the Iran question, I favor free trade with Iran and infecting them with our degenerate Western ways through more contact, but there is a legitimate argument for war. The Iranians are the prime enemy of our closest ally in the region, Saudi Arabia, they support forces that are opposed to our agenda, namely the Petrodollar, and their leadership is severely anti-American. Many strategists believe that as long as the US didn’t try to occupy and “civilize” the country, we could easily defeat them, seize their coastline and secure the petrodollar for years to come. Doesn’t make Pompeo a psychopath to share that opinion…’

    Having been to Iran, and, while granting the Islamic Republic hasn’t exactly been a success, being aware of the Iranians as people, with all the pluses and minuses that almost tediously entails, I find your hypocritical, pro-Zionist, murderous prescriptions truly evil.

    …If I could legally give money to help Iran get nukes, I would. They need them — on account of shits like you. A nuclear-armed Iran would do so much to deter the forces of evil in this world — not because Iran is particularly good, but because youall are particularly bad.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi, dfordoom
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @turtle
  188. chris says:
    @Z-man

    Good points, Z-man !
    However on this: “But yes Christian Zionism, the definition of OXYMORON!” just take out the “OYX!”

    • LOL: Z-man
  189. @Republic

    They (Mexicans) also designed it and produced the structural steel for it. But these ain’t your typical vatos that we’re talkin’ about . The design engineering firm for the project will really blip your HuwhiteAR screen into a frenzy. See for yourself:

    http://www.mosingenieros.com/2013/08/puente-baluarte-o-bicentenario.html

    • Replies: @turtle
  190. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    Pro-Zionist? In your world is being pro-American the same thing as being pro-Zionist? Really? Or are you only able to see the world through some demented anti-Israel bias? Again, I support Israel when they act as an ally, and oppose them when, or if, they act against American interests. The same way I look at England, France and the Philippines.

    Interesting that you are some kind of Iranian fellow traveler. Were you there in 1979, perhaps? Hanging around the US Embassy, maybe?Were you hanging around Beirut when William Francis Buckley was brutally murdered by Iranian sponsored terrorists? Or how about when Iranian affiliated terrorists killed our boys in Beirut in 1983? These are our friends? In your wildest imagination do you actually believe the Iranians, or I should say the present Iranian leadership, is pro-American? Or acts in our interest? Iran, at the present time, is not a danger to the US, they are a danger to our closest ally in the region, Saudi Arabia. Were the Iranians able to defeat the Saudis and take complete control of the Strait of Hormuz, they would immediately do away with the petrodollar and cause dangerous economic outcomes for the US and the world. Maybe you favor that, I don’t. The Iranians are not our friends, although I’m sure many Iranian people are fine folks trapped living under a repressive, theocratic regime. Nothing mini-skirts, whiskey and rock music can’t cure.

  191. @annamaria

    In my opinion, holocaust ‘education’ amounts to “dashing your infants against the rocks.”

    US Congress is creating legislation to provide financing & enforce holocaust education

    http://thejewishvoice.com/2019/02/05/rep-carolyn-b-maloney-announces-historic-bipartisan-legislation-on-holocaust-education/

  192. Realist says:
    @FB

    No those articles don’t support your original contention,…

    My original contention was damn few would go into the military.

    …the air force is still doing better at getting technical people than the civilian sectors of society…

    Do you have data to support that? The fact remains a much larger percent of STEM graduates choose civilian employment than military.

    …where the shortage of hard science graduates is a disaster…

    The shortage is overstated due to the desire for cheap labor by companies such as Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, et al. They aren’t willing to pay ‘American wages’

    I prefer not to use the acronym STEM since this includes all kinds of silly pseudosciences…

    The same can be said for the term technical graduates. Perhaps SpTEM would be better where Sp=physical sciences.

  193. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    In your wildest imagination do you actually believe the Iranians, or I should say the present Iranian leadership, is pro-American? Or acts in our interest?

    Why should Iran act in American interests?

    Was Israel acting in American interests when they shot up USS Liberty, killing 34 US servicemen?
    How about when Jonathan Pollard stole roomfuls of US secrets and cost the lives of US personnel — Israel acting in American interests?
    Israel selling US military technology to Chinese — Israel acting in American interests?

    re: “Nothing mini-skirts, whiskey and rock music can’t cure.”
    Riiight. These things have worked so well for Americans, turning 6-year olds into slut-wannabes; ruining too many lives thru alcohol addiction, and turning what used to be entertainment into an embarrassing attack on the senses and the spirit.

    • Replies: @Rich
  194. @Rich

    ‘Pro-Zionist? In your world is being pro-American the same thing as being pro-Zionist?

    Oh no. Au contraire…

    Israel is a cross between a tapeworm and a simple ball ‘n chain attached to our ankle as we swim for shore.

    No — I don’t confuse our interests and Israel’s. You seem to, though.

    …but of course, that’s intentional.

  195. wayfarer says:
    @FB

    ” Billionaire Mathematician – Numberphile. ”

    • Replies: @FB
  196. @Rich

    ‘…Interesting that you are some kind of Iranian fellow traveler. Were you there in 1979, perhaps? …

    Amusingly enough, I was there — if not in ’79, late ’78. Why do you ask?

    Jeepers. Maybe you should tell somebody. You get on it right away, Rich.

    ‘…Nothing mini-skirts, whiskey and rock music can’t cure.’

    They could become like us! You’re full of good ideas, aren’t you, Rich?

    • Replies: @Rich
  197. Christian Zionists/evangelicals are just zionists, nothing Christian about them, just a cult, ignorant brainwashed useful idiots of the war machine and the elite.

    Christian zionists are the Wahabbis of Christianity. They’re all just dupes of the cult of Zionism. Nice work CIA!

    No, Pompeo doesn’t believe one word of it, to him like all the leaders of the cult its only a tool for control, conquest, power and money. Capitalism>Imperialism>Zionism

    Check out Trunews, they cover Christian Zionism a bit, I don’t agree with everything they say, but they’re good for the topic.

    • Replies: @FB
  198. Rich says:
    @anon

    m the cases you cite, Israel was acting against our interests and therefore wouldn’t have my support. I’m the case of the USS Liberty we should’ve destroyed their entire air force. I guess I’m not being clear, when Israel acts in our interests, we should support them. If they act in opposition to our interests, we should oppose them. Is this really that difficult to understand?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Bill Jones
  199. FB says: • Website
    @wayfarer

    Yes I’m aware of this man…he made a fortune on Wall Street by applying his math skills…not my cup of tea…I consider anything to do with ‘finance’ to be fundamentally detrimental to human progress…

    This guy should have used his talent in a more admirable direction…for instance, recently a Russian mathematician was awarded the Millennium Prize for solving one of the seven remaining tough problems [I believe the Poincare Conjecture]…he refused the prize, which also carries a large monetary reward…this I admire…

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  200. @Brabantian

    “no weird perverse obsessions with genital mutilation, and having a strong direction away from torture-death cult killing”

    Other than the odd widow immolation, of course.

  201. @Anatoly Karlin

    “There’s a good chance that the Trump administration is a last hurrah for the Israel First agenda.”

    You’re only saying that to cheer me up.

  202. @TKK

    There are no Christians. No one is good.

    Very few, but they exist, many don’t even consider themselves Christian by todays standard, don’t attend a church.

    I’ve said many times, that if Jesus returned to America today, 99% of “Christians” at the direction of Fox News, John Hagee, etc. would denounce him as a Socialist, a radical, probably even a terrorist, and would cheer for his persecution and execution, just as before.

    Sad.

  203. FB says: • Website
    @redmudhooch

    Hooch…True News with Rick Wiles is an example of evangelical Christians that oppose Israel…and are actually realistic about Iran…ie stop demonizing them…

  204. Jagger says:

    I find Pence, Pompeo and Bolton are all sorry examples of humanity. But the problem with blaming all our ills on the Torah, the New Testament or the Koran is humanity was just as bad and probably worse prior to the existence of all three. Go back to the days of the barbarians or the Greeks or the ancient Egyptians or Chinese and did peace and good will reign? Afraid not. Anybody remember Carthage? And none were Christians. It has always been rough in this world. The major religions are a reflection of humanity and simply brings out the worse in some and the best in others.

    No, it seems evil acts lie within humanity and the nature of the world we live in. Unfortunately, it doesn’t take much to bring out the worst in some as Pence, Pompeo and Bolton demonstrate.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  205. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    “when Israel acts in our interests, we should support them. If they act in opposition to our interests, we should oppose them. Is this really that difficult to understand?”

    from perspective of US leadership, impossible to implement.

    You concede as much: “I’m the case of the USS Liberty we should’ve destroyed their entire air force.” [sic]
    But we didn’t.

    Just a guess: A proper understanding of your position would be that US should not release Pollard.
    But we did.

    So if the concept is not so difficult that you can understand it; and not so difficult that even I can understand it, why is it the people charged with properly representing you and me cannot understand and implement it?

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  206. Art says:
    @TKK

    The first is the incontrovertible fact that Jesus Christ was a Marxist- he was a hard-core anti-capitalist.

    Yes yes — it is incontrovertible, the Western Christians where commies. That is why they were so successful. John Locke – commie — Adam Smith – commie.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. Don’t give up your day job in the kabbutz.

    p.s. Your Jewish hate for Jesus is showing.

  207. turtle says:
    @Rich

    when Israel is an ally

    The so-called “State of Israel” is NOT our ally, probably never was.
    Attacking an armed naval vessel of the U.S. on the high seas without provocation is NOT the behavior of an ally. If you attack the U.S., you become our enemy, pure and simple.
    Machine gunning the life rafts of those who attempted to save themselves is a war crime.
    Retaliation for all such acts of treachery should be swift and certain. in order to deter future aggressors.
    And BTW, refusal by a U.S. President to come to the aid of U.S. armed forces who find themselves under attack by a hostile power is giving aid and comfort to the enemy, in other words, treason.
    In my opinion, LBJ should have been tried, convicted and very publicly hanged as a traitor.

  208. hvt says:

    America, you are staggering like a drunken whore,
    Even to the point of entrance at Hell’s door!
    Your adopted motto: IN GOD WE TRUST…
    You have trampled underfoot! Can you not see the rust
    Of decayed morals? Lust, pride and vanity?
    You are on the verge of losing your very sanity!

    [MORE]

    America, home of Miss Liberty…land of the free (?)…
    Your slip is showing…dragging in filth and debris!
    Still, you plod along shunning all God’s holy ways.
    Even Nineveh applied for an extension of days!
    But you say, “Attention I want. I’ll be a global shocker.”
    Listen-up! In surety, Jesus will be your boat-rocker!

    America, you are no longer little sweet sixteen…
    Nor are you a dainty ballerina or a beauty queen.
    Having joined in the stoning of His prophets and saints,
    Your make-up’s make-up clearly resembles war-paint!
    If you could see all things from beginning to end…
    To whose side, God’s or satan’s, would your knees bend?

    America, open up the Book, the end is not hidden!
    Are you not concerned that you are backslidden?
    Redeem the time for good. Check out God’s Holy Writ!
    See where in His blueprint you might exactly fit.
    The sinfulness abounding throughout your storied land
    Is hideous mocking of Heaven’s most righteous plan!

    America, look at who you are not allowed to criticize…
    That mid-east entity that audaciously spits in God’s eyes!
    Bellowing that they are God’s holy and chosen ones,
    All the while disparaging His very own begotten Son.
    They’ve usurped and undermined “good’ ole USA
    By blackmailing its “leaders” in their evil sway.

    America, shameful is your collusion with agenda LGBTQ!
    Once upon a time you had eyes that couldn’t be fooled!
    But now, rage against Creator‘s purity rules your days,
    And with a smirk on your face, your true color betrays
    Your allegiance to the fallen, evil prince of this world…
    America the “great”(?) Can you not sense wrath and swirl?

    America, won’t you obey His ageless, instructive words?
    You can’t run from them…even in your souped-up birds!
    The Day of the Lord, like a thief in the night, will come
    For a people listening for His trump…not a bongo drum!
    It’s up to you, America! Wha’d’ya say you get in His Mood?
    He is coming…ready or not…and His name is not dude…
    But, Jesus. Yes, Jesus!

    America, He loves you so!
    hvt

    • Replies: @Nonny
  209. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @TKK

    Alexander — Aztec?

    O’Casey — Aztec?

    Cortez — Aztec? More like the Scourge of the Aztecs.

  210. turtle says:
    @Grace Poole

    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

    Gee, the “Huns” (a.k.a. “evil Germans”) only impaled babies on bayonets, while the “evil Iraqis” removed them from incubators and left them to die on the cold, hard floor.
    Guess there is not much to choose among them…

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  211. Anon[253] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Fred Reed a giant pussy who dispenses his sanctimonious bullshit from on high while hiding from his critics? Why yes, yes he is.

  212. turtle says:
    @Colin Wright

    If I could legally give money to help Iran get nukes, I would. They need them

    Through no fault of their own, Iranians find themselves living in a very dangerous neighborhood.
    The right to self defense is universal.
    Iranians are humans.
    Iranians have the right to exist, and to be left in peace without foreign interference.
    Iran has not attacked anyone in over 200 years, and is probably incapable of projecting military power beyond its borders.
    Iran is lately a peaceable country which is unfortunately being demonized by evildoers with their own nefarious agendas.
    Iran has the right to exist, and to be left in peace to pursue their own destiny.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident….
    etc.”

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  213. turtle says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    You likely know the largest cement producer in North America is CEMEX:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemex

    You don’t grow to be that big by being stupid.

  214. wayfarer says:
    @FB

    It was interesting to hear James Harris Simons’ story, but in particular I found it interesting that he felt students’ struggle, due to a shortage of qualified teachers.

    I spent decades “teaching” K-12 students, helping them with their mathematics and science course work.

    In my experience, students fail due to lack of motivation and discipline – as well as an intentional scarcity of clear concise instructional materials, which typically do not include lots of detailed solutions.

    I’ve found that inspired self-reliant kids can establish a solid foundation in both arithmetic and algebra, within months instead of years – themselves, by utilizing this simple program.

    source: https://themathpage.com/

  215. Biff says:
    @Rich

    You and Pompeo are both psychopaths. I hope that helps.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  216. @turtle

    Exposing infants was, apparently, frequently practiced in Greek and Roman societies as well as in Persia:
    Oedipus was exposed by his parents, King Laius and Jocasta, in an attempt to frustrate the Delphic oracle. He was rescued and raised by a shepherd — you know the rest of the story.

    Shahnameh has a slightly different twist: Zal is born with white hair, so his father the king ordered that he be set out to die. The bird Simorgh rescued and raised him. Eventually his repentant father searches for him & they’re reunited. Simorgh never abandons Zal, who becomes father to Rostam, the great Persian hero.

    Medea slays her children in a fit of pique over having spent the best years of her life helping Jason acquire the Golden Fleece, only to be dumped in favor of another woman.

    Hebrew scripture has numerous other stories of maltreatment of children.

    Jesus took a different approach:

    “People were also bringing babies to Jesus for him to place his hands on them. When the disciples saw this, they rebuked them. But Jesus called the children to him and said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”

    But why did the disciples rebuke him?

  217. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    Are you saying you are a supporter of the terrorists who took our citizens hostage in 1979? Are you a supporter of the terrorists who killed William Francis Buckley? Are you also saying you support those that murdered our servicemen in Beirut in 1982? If so, you’re a piece of slime and anything you write on this subject is through the lens of a fellow traveler with murderers and not worth the toilet paper they used to sell with the ayatollah’s face on it.

    • Troll: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Colin Wright
  218. denk says:

    Shit hole dwellers spew B.S…par for the course.
    Bush, Clintons, Obamas, Trump, each surpassing the previous one in hubris and deceit.
    The 46th potus would be no different, mark my word.
    That’s a feature, not a bug.

    Just when you thought you’ve seen everything,
    the assholes keep reaching new height, er,
    plunging new low with their words of wisdom,

    Exhibit Pompeo,

    We should pressure China to be a normal country.
    Its disregarding international laws and seeking to impose decades of pain around the world.

    heheheh

    • Replies: @denk
  219. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why would he have a point? Pompeo wouldn’t be a hypocrite at all in that case.

    In fact, maybe it’s even true. Who knows, after all?

  220. @anon

    Israel is not an ally of the US, the Israeli attack on America on 911 settled that!

  221. Vojkan says:

    Greed, venality, ambition, vanity seem to me more plausible explanations for Pompeo, rather than fanatical belief in lunacies like the Rapture. That’s for dumpsters and you just don’t get Pompeo’s career if you’re a dumpster. Psycho yes, dumb no. Regarding Pence, I know nothing about him other than the obvious, that he’s full it. As for what kind of it, anyone’s guess is as good as mine, but it definitely isn’t from the Gospels.

  222. @Rich

    Who the fuck defines “US Interests?”

    Whenever I see the term I know there’s a moron afoot.

  223. Swan.Knight says: • Website

    OK Fred, I wait like a child for Christmas for your next brilliant treatise on the wonders of Atheism as applied by Lenin, Trosky, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot

  224. bluedog says:
    @Rich

    Lol love it when idiots like you go on the defensive, trying to turn black into white and white into black,lets see the C.I.A. overthrew an elected president (how does that grab your ass when you preach about democracy) install a Shah and loot the country murder its people, then clowns like you piss and moan because they took hostages,and of course the affair in Lebanon took place because once again we were where we shouldn’t be and then whine its somebody elses fault..

    • Replies: @Rich
  225. Nonny says:
    @hvt

    Look again at the LGBTQ lobby and the Jewish lobby. The LGBTQ lobby sprang up suddenly out of nowhere, is about social subversion, and is invincible. Why?

    The Jewish lobby is about social subversion, and is invincible. Why?

  226. Logan says:

    After an initial period of horror, the technique will be used to prevent disease, then to improve health or athleticism, then–eeek!–intelligence and, finally behavior. Don’t think so? Bet me.

    Probably right, but what is “improved behavior,” and who gets to define it?

  227. @Rich

    ‘Are you saying you are a supporter of the terrorists who took our citizens hostage in 1979? Are you a supporter of the terrorists who killed William Francis Buckley? Are you also saying you support those that murdered our servicemen in Beirut in 1982? If so, you’re a piece of slime and anything you write on this subject is through the lens of a fellow traveler with murderers and not worth the toilet paper they used to sell with the ayatollah’s face on it.’

    And you’re a Zionist. That’s more concise, more accurate, and also, vastly more damaging to America.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  228. @Biff

    ‘You and Pompeo are both psychopaths. I hope that helps.’

    I’d confine myself to asserting that Rich is an especially dishonest Zionist. I haven’t thought about whether that’s the same as being a psychopath.

  229. Rich says:
    @bluedog

    Oh, so then it’s okay to kill Americans because back in the ’50s the US stopped the Iranians from putting a communist in charge? You guys are pathetic. You are actually advocating for people that kidnapped, tortured and murdered Americans, but you’re so caught up in your keyboard nonsense, you don’t realize how vicious and pitiful you sound. Here’s a concept that is probably a little difficult for you to wrap your brain around, just because you think the Israelis do bad things, doesn’t mean the Iranians are good guys.

  230. Art says:
    @Rich

    Again, I support Israel when they act as an ally, and oppose them when, or if, they act against American interests. The same way I look at England, France and the Philippines.

    You make to many excuses for Jews and Israel – your words mislead – you are being disingenuous.

    Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. Hmm — how many wars have England, France, and the Philippine gotten us into in the last 50 years – how about Israel?

    p.s. Hmm — how about 9/11 and the Jews?

    p.s. Hmm — how about the Jew ADL and AIPAC and their control over America?

  231. @Bragadocious

    What accomplishments are those? Pompeo IS a fat, worthless slug and a coward. He could have built the Sears Tower singlehandedly and he would still be a worthless slug and a coward. Polish his shoes while you’re down there.

  232. Art says:

    Oh, so then it’s okay to kill Americans because back in the ’50s the US stopped the Iranians from putting a communist in charge?

    Oh my — another tell comment! You have to be a Jew – only Jews hate Iran as much as you do.

    You are in your glory today – ha!

    Killing Palestinians in Gaza, who have no place to run – shooting down popgun munitions with million dollar missiles. Tanks against rocks.

    Can’t wipe the smile of your face today – can we?

    Peace — Art

  233. Art says:
    @Bragadocious

    I didn’t say I idolized him, but you can’t deny his accomplishments (Pompeo).

    What Pompeo accomplishments are those?

    Hiding the evil works of the CIA from the America people, in his oversight responsibilities in congress.

    Heading the CIA – killing people with drones at weddings and funerals?

    Bringing the CIA mentality to the US State Department.

    Transferring his phony religious predilections into US foreign policy?

    Daily working to create wars on Iran and Venezuela.

    Always advocating harm as a solution.

    Hmm – some accomplishments.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Sowhat
  234. @Brabantian

    It is appointed for men to die once, after this comes Judgment.

  235. Sowhat says:

    From the onset, Trump danced with the Sheiks and prayerfully bowed his head at the Wailing Wall while making declaring what the Christian Americans wanted to hear. I’m curious. Did Trump ever go to church with his wife? Which one? Do we have evidence?
    Meanwhile I found that his seemingly hastily chosen V.P. had his plans for America back in 2001, Michael Pence had his own plan for America. Perhaps, you find something similar, here:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20010119100800/http://www.cybertext.net:80/pence/issues.html

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @turtle
  236. Sowhat says:
    @Art

    I don’t comment every ten days so I’ll simply reply that I agree, whole-heartedly, Art.

  237. @Rich

    ‘… You are actually advocating for people that kidnapped, tortured and murdered Americans…’

    ? It’s you that are defending Israel.

  238. @Rich

    ‘…Here’s a concept that is probably a little difficult for you to wrap your brain around, just because you think the Israelis do bad things, doesn’t mean the Iranians are good guys.’

    Okay. And?

    Wake me up when the Ayatollah addresses Congress and receives seventeen standing ovations.

    I haven’t exactly placed Iran on the moral continuum of nations. Happily, I don’t need to, since we don’t fund it, defend it, and make it possible.

    …Let’s just take responsibility for our own crime — Israel, that is.

    When do we pull the plug?

  239. @Jagger

    Anyone here old enough besides me to to remember the 1930s radio program called The Shadow? The program always opened with The Shadow saying, “Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men”? The Shadow knows.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  240. anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sowhat

    Trump danced with the Sheiks

    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/05/httpwwwfoxnewscompolitics20170522israeli-minister-expresses-concerns-over-us-saudi-arabia-deal-ahead-trump-visitht.html

    In the Arab World when someone submits to you and accepts your money as a follower and tool, the culturally authentic thing to do is to make the experience as painless as possible.

    The Saudis will now expect that the US will understand that their $110 billion in defense purchases and $40 billion in contributions from the Saudi state’s sovereign wealth fund will buy power in Washington and that their carefully and politely stated demands will be greeted with great receptivity in the future.

  241. the Evangelical belief that before the world can end, the Jews must gather in Israel and be converted to Christianity.

    By “Jews”, do they mean those who practice Judaism, or those who are of Jewish ancestry?(*) If the latter, they’ll have a long wait. There are a great many of us who don’t follow that or any religion, have no interest in Israel nor any intention of setting foot there.

    * – There really should be different words for these; using “Jew” for both often confuses the discussion. I propose “Judaian” for those who practice the religion, reserving “Jew” to refer to ancestry.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  242. wayfarer says:
    @Simply Simon

    “Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men”? The Shadow do!

    It’s good to see you, Simply Simon.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  243. a German says:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    Maybe a better approach to body count what the UShithole did in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Ha Noi, Hai Phong aso.?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  244. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Are my genitals all you think about? What’s is it with your obsession with them, Seraphim? Feeling inferior again?

  245. turtle says:
    @Sowhat

    In his own words:

    I am preoccupied with the defense and the promotion of the interests of the state and the people of Israel.

    In which the Vice President of the United States declares his preoccupation with the interests of a foreign country, as opposed to the country of which he is a citizen and in which he holds high office.

    The United States must be a supportive partner with Israel in promoting the Middle East Peace Process but must be ever guided by it’s fealty first to the interests of Israel.

    In which the Vice President of the United States states his belief that the actions of the U.S. government should be guided by the interests of a foreign country.

    There you have it, folks.
    The Vice President of the U.S is an agent of a foreign power, and a traitor to his own country.

  246. @Rex Little

    ‘By “Jews”, do they mean those who practice Judaism, or those who are of Jewish ancestry?(*) If the latter, they’ll have a long wait…’

    Ironically, if they mean the former, they’ll have a long wait as well. An awful lot of Jewish sects thinks the Messiah comes first, then they all go to Jerusalem.

    …so we’re back to square one: kicking around waiting for the Messiah to show.

    Or not. The difficulty is what people come up with to do in the meantime.

  247. Spanky says:

    They believe in the Rapture. They believe that we are in the End Times. This means that one day soon the faithful will disappear–poof–and be sucked up into heaven by the Rapture. Whoosh. The rest of us will endure the Tribulation, a time when the Antichrist will rule in chaos and savagery. Then Jesus will come and defeat him in the battle of Armageddon.” — Fred

    Don’t know about the faithful being poofed or whooshed, but it does appear that at least some of us (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, Ukraine and other places too numerous to mention here) are already enduring the Tribulation. Which would appear, considering who is raining all this death and destruction down from on high, to make Pence, Pompeo, et. al. servants of the Antichrist…

    Unless, of course, their belief in the Christian God also includes His get-out-of-jail-free-card,”God moves in mysterious ways”, which conveniently rationalizes His (and their) chaos and savagery. Perhaps, just to make clear the pious righteousness of U.S. intentions carrying out the mystery of His ways, we ought broadcast before every attack:

    This message brought to you by the God of love and compassion, with a little help from his pious friends in the U.S. government and military industrial complex.

    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Prof Watson
  248. turtle says:
    @Spanky

    Drop leaflets, maybe?

    • Replies: @Spanky
  249. Evangelicals, such as the Baptists and etc are Israeli firsters. The Universal Church that Christ founded , is not and are Supersessionists, also called replacement theology or fulfillment theology,which is a Christian doctrine which asserts that the New Covenant through Jesus Christ supersedes the Old Covenant, which was made exclusively with the Jewish people.The World Council of Churches has a similar position. The Lutheran, Anglican Communion, Presbyterians, and Methodist positions are not the same as the Evangelicals on the Israeli problem.
    The Evangelicals, the so called Bible Thumpers, are a significant base of the GOP and Trump supporters.

  250. @Spanky

    The Orthodox churches position on the Israeli problem are not the same as American Evangelical Bible Thumpers who are also Israeli Firsters.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  251. bluedog says:
    @Rich

    There goes the stupid and deranged again,now what business is it of ours what type of government they have,in your deranged mind its alright for us to go around the world killing this one or that one that fails to fit our narrow view,or serve American interest (business and banking sector) but yet piss and moan when the favors returned.If the Jews and others wish a fight let them go at and just maybe the little piss-ant of a country known as Israel will either be wiped off the map or learn to get along with its neighbors>>

    • Replies: @Rich
  252. Spanky says:
    @Prof Watson

    My apologies for lumping them all together under the title “Christian” since there are obviously distinct flavors of Christianity. But am no authority being, as my Methodist mother-in-law says, damned to hell for all eternity because I’m agnostic.

    However, since all those other flavors seem reluctant to publicly denounce the chaos and savagery both we and Israel rain down and I’ve heard from their pulpits a few sermons praising that savagery and celebrating its chaos, it’s difficult to believe I’m too far off the mark with my over-generalization…

    Perhaps their doctrines say one thing, but what’s being preached on Sunday is something else altogether… Wonder if it has anything to do with well-funded fundamentalist Bible study groups and subsidized trips to Israel to visit the “Holy Land”, like those my Presbyterian mother and mother-in-law took several years ago?

  253. Spanky says:
    @turtle

    Sure, why not… anything to let them know we’re killing them with kindness in our hearts.

  254. @wayfarer

    Yes Wayfarer, I generally read all your posts–like a number of others on this site your scope of knowledge covers a wide variety of fields, although no one will call you “pompous.” As I recall you can wax poetic if the occasion demands. Last I heard you were proposing a a four month hiatus(?), homeless and barefoot on the beaches of So Cal. And I recall you once tried a stint of living in your car in the same area. I have a rather sad tale of a terrible misfortune that happened to my step son on the streets of LA. He was a homeless derelict who like many others would collect returnable bottles and cans and sell them to the nearest recycling center to support their hemp habit. Someway, somehow he became friends with the lady who manged the center and they eventually married. This turned his life around, but it ended badly when he was shot to death by a group of gang bangers. The LA cops apparently made some effort to find the killer(s) but that came to naught as this all happened five years ago and we have heard nothing back from the police. I know I don’t have to tell you to be very careful, Watch your back!

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  255. @Rich

    You are actually advocating for people that kidnapped, tortured and murdered Americans,

    Iranians held Americans hostage after US did evil shit to them, and while George H W Bush and the Reagan team manipulated events to win an election.
    Iran ceased being a US ally by that time, or with that series of events.

    But it is Israelis who torture, murder, steal from, and spy on USA, and they are supposed to be friends of USA.

    Iran never shook USA down for billions of dollars, nor demanded that US send their kids off to get killed for their benefit, but Israel does those things as a matter of course.

    Here’s a concept that is probably a little difficult for you to wrap your brain around, just because you think the Israelis do bad things, doesn’t mean the Iranians are good guys.

    Everything’s relative.
    Compared to the shit Israel does, and has done to USA, yeah, Iranians are the good guys.

    One final thing: What makes more sense and is more beneficial to Americans:

    – engage in peaceful commerce and cultural exchange with 80,000 smart Iranians with pent-up demand and high degree of intellectual capital, i.e. the Iranian option;
    or
    – pay perpetual tribute to a 7 million-member tribal theocracy that persistently kills its nearest neighbors; has to be paid to keep the peace with its nether neighbors, and has a record of subverting those nations where it has sojourned in the past; that is, the Israel option?

    Iranians.
    Definitely the good guys.

  256. Rich says:
    @bluedog

    I’m American. Iranians kidnapped and tortured my fellow citizens. They set up a bombing that killed over 200 of my fellow citizens. That bothers me. I don’t care what kind of government they have, I don’t care what they wear or what they listen to, but when they kill my fellow citizens, it bothers me. You, not being American, don’t give a damn. Good for you.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @homahr
    , @Colin Wright
  257. bluedog says:
    @Rich

    Hmm there you go again making assumption as to who I am and where I live which just happens to be upstate N.Y.,no I don’t like to see Ameican’s killed and nor do I wish to see a sick government and its people killing others for no other reason then the currency they wish to accept for the products they sell,nor do I wish to see that sick government and its people installing bloody dictators to do our bidding, and then whine when the people kick out that dictator and replace him with one of their choice, and whine because they call us the great satan,if the shoe fits put it on and in your case its a perfect fit.!!

    • Replies: @Rich
  258. homahr says:
    @Rich

    I’m American. Iranians kidnapped and tortured my fellow citizens.

    bitch and moan. bitch and moan some more.

  259. @Rich

    ‘I’m American. Iranians kidnapped and tortured my fellow citizens. They set up a bombing that killed over 200 of my fellow citizens. That bothers me…’

    …and yet, curiously, there’s no evidence that Israel’s murders, attacks, espionage, false-flag operations, etc against us bug you at all.

    Weird, huh?

  260. Art says:

    Pence, speaking to Jews:.”Let me say emphatically, like the overwhelming majority of my constituents, my Christian faith compels me to cherish the state of Israel.”

    He backed that up last December at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s conference when he said: “Israel’s enemies are our enemies, Israel’s cause is our cause. If this world knows nothing else, let it know this: America stands with Israel.”

    Oh my — hmm — “my Christian faith”

    Clearly Pence is mixing church and state. Aggressive US foreign policy should not be influenced by personal god based religious feelings.”

    Pence is saying his personal religious desire to go to heaven, is directing his responsibilities as vice president. Pence wants US people to die – so he can go to heaven.

    Check out the Christian dispensationalist biblical crap. Do NOT send your children to their death, so Pence can stay out of hell.

    Pence must be impeached.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: turtle
    • Replies: @turtle
  261. wayfarer says:
    @Simply Simon

    I’d like to hear a few of your tales someday, Simply Simon.

    It’d sure be interesting to take in some American nostalgia.

    And if anyone offers up negative opinion, so what. One has to ignore naysayers.

    Your generation was tough, much tougher than any that’s followed. Don’t forget that.

    I do recall your stepson’s sad story, and his tragic fate on the unforgiving streets of L.A. That’s got to be one haunting memory. But his spirit will surely be waiting to meet up with you, on the other side.

    I’m migrating out of Yuma in a couple weeks, and will be sleeping in the San Diego chaparral this summer – trying my damndest to make lemonade out of life’s lemons.

    My summer home ( https://interwork.sdsu.edu/fire/resources/Chaparral.htm ).

    It’s fate, it’s destiny, it’s an unforeseen path to heaven.

    You take care now, friend.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  262. turtle says:
    @Art

    Joe Stalin sed: “No man, no problem.”
    turtle sez: “No ‘God,’ no problem.

    No God => no “God’s fav’rite chilluns.”
    No more problem.

    Yahweh. Not my weh.

    We’ve got Sick Pence,
    Jolly, jolly Sick Pence.
    We had enough Sick Pence
    To last more than one life.

  263. Some believe in God. Then there are those like Fred reed who believe they are a god.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  264. annamaria says:

    The ZUSA is incompatible with human dignity: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/05/karen-kwiatkowski/pray-and-weep
    By Karen Kwiatkowski /

    US political influence and debt-funded largesse resulted in Assange’s ejection from the Ecuadorian Embassy into the UK prison for terrorists in Belmarsh. US domestic corruption and misreading of the Constitution produced his indictment.

    Furthermore, US government employees, from the DoD, FBI and the CIA have been interviewing Assange in Belmarsh Prison, prior to any extradition decision.

    [In the prison] Assange is being “treated” with 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate, known as BZ. … Soldiers on BZ could remember only fragments of the experience afterward. As the drug wore off, and the subjects had trouble discerning what was real, many experienced anxiety, aggression, even terror. …

    Torture, isolation, brutality, and the use of psychotropic drugs during interrogations and hiding this from the defendant’s own lawyers by denying them access — this is Lubyanka [Soviet prison “synonymous with executions, violence and torture”] in the 1950s, not London and DC in 2019.

    The latest word I have received from England is as follows:

    “Julian Assange is presently under close observation in prison hospital because he has suffered ‘severe transient psychotic episodes.’ My source(s) indicate these episodes occurred after two sessions of coercive interrogation at the hands of UK and US officials. The source(s) stated the HUMINT interrogators used psychotropic drugs in the course of the sessions.”

    There is very little legally here to work with, and success so far on the part of the US Government has been solely via a reliable judge in the Eastern District Court of Virginia, and other people’s money and other people’s governments, beholden or paid by the US.

    The Zionized US — the country of Cheney’s amoral principles — has finally reached the level of sub-human Bolshevism practiced in the Soviet Russia.

  265. @annamaria

    has finally reached the level of sub-human Bolshevism practiced in the Soviet Russia

    Not quite, at least, not yet. The final brick in the wall will be when sites like UR are shut down and all dissent silenced. Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube are well on their way. Only a few brief moments remain before we will no longer be able to disseminate posts such as yours.

    Use them wisely to organize.

  266. @Thorfinnsson

    Why would a society cease to function if most of its men were as independent in mind as Fred?

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  267. Rich says:
    @bluedog

    And yet you go all in supporting the Iranians who kidnapped, tortured and murdered your fellow citizens. You don’t have to love Israel, but come on, don’t be an Iranian backer.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Biff
  268. Republic says:
    @annamaria

    I don’t think that report is correct Wikileaks spokesman and Pamela Anderson visited him today at the prison. His first social visit in one month. Nothing was said about visiting CIA agents at that press conference. He is in his cell for 23 hours a day

  269. bluedog says:
    @Rich

    I back any country that minds their own business,countries that don’t kill for something to do or simply to feed the MIC,now I didn’t put those citizens in harms way, they chose that themselves, and yet you get all mushy never taking into account all those people in Iraq that we tortured and killed and that dosen’t even take into account all the black renditions sites that we operate around the world,the sooner this country is shoved the rest of the way down the rabbit hole the better off not only the world but we will be.Now go get another hanky I’m quite sure that you will need one to wipe away the tears of someone somebody did something to us..!!

    • Replies: @Rich
  270. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @tex tickles

    Lol! Of course the old “covenant” is “obsolete.” Those who came up with the new “convenant” (lol!) knew what a PR clusterphuck it would be moving forward.

    Full points to their marketing genius. They bought Christianity some more centuries. But, times about up, godless pagan.

  271. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Muslims don’t “profess to know better”?

    Of course we know better… God is One, and only One… and no pagan nonsense about 3 divine persons lol!, etc.

    Yes, we most definitely know better. 😀

  272. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    I now have a replacement for Bullshit: Bullrich or Richbull.

  273. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brabantian

    ‘My god is the ONLY god’ fanaticism

    There is no, my God, your God.

    Since God is One, and only One, it automatically follows that the One God, is the ONLY God… you polytheist godless idiot.

    Your “sanatan dharma” is the height of pagan polytheist pestilence on mankind. Those afflicted by said pestilence find it almost impossible to escape it. This is the reason why the “religion” has prospered in your dung-hole, and only in your dung-hole (ok, there may be some other inconsequential dung-holes too… Nepal…)… whitey hare krishna kooks notwithstanding.

    The idea that “gods” need to rape (Vishnu/Tulsi), have gay sex (Vishnu/Shiva), are clueless about things (Shiva being unaware about his “son” Ganesh, as he does an ISIS on the “son”), conniving\quarrelling amongst themselves, etc… is all an unspeakable pagan abomination.

    If you think such posts will get sane people to adopt all that nonsense… lol! you insane idiots are pissing in the wind.

  274. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @tex tickles

    a doubleminded man is unstable in all ways

    You know what is much more unstable … a triple minded “god” … as your fast depleting laity evidences. Lol!

    May the Almighty One destroy all kinds of paganisms from this world… and bless mankind with Pure Monotheism.

    • Replies: @GrowUpHumanRace
  275. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    So, you actually went to each and every locality to gauge and shade this map? Lol!

    Even if true, hooray for that animal… at least the mofing loser got to do one good thing. Yeah?

    Indus Valley had first flush toilets anywhere in world.

    India of the present is a shithole. Only that matters.

  276. Rich says:
    @bluedog

    You are what you are. You’ve made the choice that American lives have no more value than that of a terrorist, foreigner or enemy. Must make you feel very good about yourself to be above everything, to not be a member of a nation, of a community. So what, some young men joined the military to defend the country they love,? They aren’t your children, or family, so you don’t care. Well, at least you’ve revealed yourself for the despicable man you are. I have more respect for the Viet Cong murderer, than you, as evil as he was, as misguided, he still thought he fought for his people. You exist outside the nation, yet take its benefits. Takes all kinds, I suppose. We are of different mettle, that’s all.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @homahr
  277. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Macadam

    I am evangelical, …

    Aside from your pretentious dissimulation, the main question would be… do you subscribe to the abominable ideology of “The Rapture,” or not?

    If you do, no matter what you say, you are part of the problem.

  278. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    He shows that the godless pagan Chrizzies are the bitches of the Joos.

    It is amusing, so… you know what to do.

  279. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Lol! You are an idiot.

    Islam considers Jews as wrongdoers, for their evil machinations during the Holy Prophet’s times, and even before, which has continued on until this day.

    A people creating a religion, which considers their own cursed self, as wrongdoers?! Lol! You whitey scum.

  280. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    What do you mean, you whiteys do have your own native religion that better fits your evolutionary psychopathic biology… it is called the demon religion of Whitey Supremacy.

  281. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @a German

    Sir, did you not know that you are not supposed to address such inconvenient questions to pure scum like endgame napoleon?

    Anyway, you focused on the UShithole, but forgot to add a whole lot of other pagan godless societies which have committed such heinous barbarisms, that the list provided by the scum above, pales in comparison.

    1. The British rape of India.
    2. Stalin
    3. Hitler
    4. Japanese
    5. the pogroms of the hindutva scum
    6. and, so many other pagan non-Muslims.

    This is all within the last 100 hundred years… so, in the scope of mankind’s presence on earth, this is all recent history.

    • Replies: @GrowUpHumanRace
  282. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    Sure, Christians have done some heinous & barbaric things over the centuries. After making a big deal of religion, Henry the Eighth beheaded some of his wives.

    Lol, at the example! Them chrizzies must really be “heinous & barbaric!” Lol!

    No matter what you say, your kind, presumably whitey, Christian, are the worst psychopaths and bloodthirsty savages this world has even known. Plenty of history to show for that.

    Your list about Muslim atrocities is almost pathetic compared to the proven evil of your kind, even though I have no desire to diminish the evilness you gleefully cite.

    Remember, the implacable enemies of True Monotheism such as your cursed kind, will burn in the worst recesses of Hell. It will be a fate I take immense pleasure in.

  283. bluedog says:
    @Rich

    Lol there you go whining again that someone has the balls to call the empire what it really is a nation of murdering sycophants, that fails to care about anyone not even its own, and then you have those that condone it and call themselves a patriot when in reality they are the problem, the cause of most of the death and destruction that we spread around the world.!!!

  284. Biff says:
    @Rich

    And yet you go all in supporting the Iranians who kidnapped, tortured and murdered your fellow citizens. You don’t have to love Israel, but come on, don’t be an Iranian backer.

    This is such low brow knuckle-dragging logic the gimps, neocons, government yes-men, and brown-nosing stenographer journalists have been using for years:

    If you were against the Iraq war you were a Saddam apologist.
    If you were against the destruction of Libya you were a Gaddhaffi apologist.
    If you were against the Ukrainian putsch you were a Putin apologist.
    And if a war starts with Iran the names will come out in the same fashion.

    It’s fucking tiring bullshit that fools nobody, and the mark of an idiot.

    • Agree: FB, RadicalCenter
  285. kemerd says:

    Fred,

    I am afraid you made a mistake about Mother Theresa: she was as evil as Bolton or Pompeo; a notorious child exploiter

  286. @Liberty Mike

    Too many chiefs, not enough indians.

  287. annamaria says:

    American X-tians in the highest echelons of US government swear that they love, love babies: https://www.globalresearch.ca/glyphosate-worse/5674472
    “Glyphosate Worse than We Could Imagine:”

    … even ultra-low levels of glyphosate herbicides cause non-alcoholic liver disease. According to the Mayo Clinic, today, after four decades or more pervasive use of glyphosate pesticides, 100 million, or 1 out of 3 Americans now have liver disease. These diagnoses are in some as young as 8 years old. …

    …those with highest exposure to glyphosate have a 41% increased risk of developing non-Hodgkin lymphoma (NHL) cancer. … glyphosate “alters the gut microbiome,” and that that could “impact the immune system, promote chronic inflammation, and contribute to the susceptibility of invading pathogens.” Glyphosate also ”may act as an endocrine disrupting chemical because it has been found recently to alter sex hormone production…”

    Glyphosate residues have been found in tap water, orange juice, children’s urine, breast milk, chips, snacks, beer, wine, cereals, eggs, oatmeal, wheat products, and most conventional foods tested. It’s everywhere.

    Evidence of soil experts is beginning to reveal clear links between use of pesticides such as glyphosate and dramatic drops in soil fertility and the collapse of microbe systems essential to healthy soil.

  288. Ragno says:
    @Rational

    Careful you don’t utter a disparaging word about Jews there, Rational – Fred will have none of it, and annually pens an essay to that effect to act as a reminder (and to straighten out any late arrivals to the party here who might have gotten the wrong idea reading other columns of his.)

    For instance: the point of this essay was to once again fricassee the current administration and its jefe, el puto Trump (as he’s colorfully referred to at Fred’s hacienda), mostly by pointing out what terrible, hypocritical Christians all the puto’s cabrones are. And before you point out that the number of godless hypocrites in Washington, in fact the entire country, are uncountable, Fred will be quick to inform you that while that is true, the ones who are the most unforgivably toxic all say rilly awful stuff about Mexicans.

  289. @John Q Public

    Well….

    Psalm 82 King James Version (KJV)

    82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

    2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

    3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

    4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

    5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

    6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

    8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

    King James Version (KJV)

  290. Jews and Christians are equally evil. Ditto for LGBT. I was suckered into believing in Trump/Pence, then stupidly voted for them but now I regret it. I won’t be voting in the next election as I feel they are all fixed to benefit Jews and the idiot Christian Zionists that follow them like the Piped Piper of Hamlin. Granted extremist Muslims are also a danger but I feel they are violent due to being victimized for so long by Israel and the United States. I agree that the bible is a inhumane barbaric book, both the New and Old Testaments. I guess a lot of people refuse to see that religion ruins the world, and it ruins people too. The saddest part of all is that it is the children who suffer the most because of this.

    • Replies: @Kent Watanabe
  291. @tex tickles

    What’s the point of the NT when Christians don’t even live it? They judge, don’t forgive and punish which they have no right to. Forced /closed adoption in this country is proof of that. So was slavery and the treatment of Native Americans. Christians worship money just like the Jews do, not Jesus. Both groups are mean hateful people.

    • Replies: @Kent Watanabe
  292. @anonymous

    Many pagans act more Christian than Christians do. I know pagan women who are against abortion and I know Christian women who have had one. Incidentally, Christians and Jews lie about pagans as well. It was the Talmud that taught child molestation, bestiality, etc, not paganism, yet Christians and Jews say that is what paganism is all about. It was also Judaism’s devil that made homosexuals. Pagans weren’t gay, including the Romans, nor did they support this. Their good Gods and Goddesses don’t support gay people either. Stop pushing BS propaganda. And please remember Jesus was only here for the Jews. Not everyone is supposed to be a Christian.

    • Replies: @Kent Watanabe
  293. @anonymous

    Funny, a Roman pagan solider had more faith in Jesus than most Jews did, do. Funny, Pilot didn’t even want to kill Christ but the Jews couldn’t wait..

  294. homahr says:
    @Rich

    Actually, American lives have zero value. But that won’t stop your bitching and moaning

  295. For those looking to solidify their hatred of Christians, this is the article. In fact, the comments are all applauding that hatred.
    I guess no one has noticed the obvious irony of an article that calls Christians the ones lacking empathy, love, and compassion and yet is conspicuously lacking all the before mentioned.
    Being a Christian, I am not surprised at this. We humans are ALL imperfect. It would be so great to work together and leave the finger pointing out of the equation.

  296. HBM says:

    The Abrahamisms are poison. The longer one goes as an atheist student of them, the more despicable they reveal themselves to be.

    They are not belief systems; they are propaganda constructs compulsively repeated. “Mind Virus” sounds juvenille and silly, but that’s exactly what they are. Their power to infect and persist, grow and reproduce is amazing. The world will never be rid of them.

    • Replies: @Kent Watanabe
  297. Oh boy. More hand-wringing about the mean old Spanish Inquisition that just repeats the accusations of the Anglo-Jewish black legend, with the mandatory reminder that the Jews dindu nuffin.

    http://www.elfinspell.com/LiesandErrorsInquisition.html

    Maybe Fred should become a mohel, since he apparently loves Jewish dick so much.

  298. @HBM

    You say that as you live off of the benefits of Christian civilization. Actually, Christianity is the only true Abrahamic religion. Talmudic Judaism and Islam are regional variations of paganism that imbibed elements of Judaism to combat Christianity as it arrived in their respective regions. Christianity ended pagan human sacrifice, created schools and hospitals, while the Jews sought to undermine everything they did. And now they have their atheist stooges to help them.

  299. @GrowUpHumamRace

    Muslims acted out long before Israel was a state. The Arab conquests and Barbey pirate slave trade are big hints. Christianity is the reason the west flourished while other civilizations stagnated. I doubt you’d have liked living under pagan social mores with the human sacrifice and forced sodomy by elite classes and whatnot.

    As for modern issues, Christians oppose abortion while Jews and pagans promote it. Same with gay marriage.

  300. @GrowUpHumanRace

    The natives treated each other far more harshly than the colonists ever did.

  301. @GrowUpHumanRace

    Pederasty was common in Greece and Rome. And human sacrifice was common among Germanic pagans. Today, Pagans are largely liberal supporters of abortion and homosexuality, but that shouldn’t be a surprise. Pagans have been doing the Jews’ bidding since Julian the Apostate.

  302. @The Alarmist

    Jews and Muslims show little concern for Christian lives, especially in Christian nations. Turnabout is fair play.

  303. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Christianity preserved European identity for centuries before Atheists and Deists decided to replace religion and ethnicity with meaningless ideals like “liberty” and “equality” as the foundations for nationhood. You sound like a typical dysgenic secularist lamenting a world you helped create by attacking the very thing that tried to stop it from ending up this way.

  304. @Brabantian

    Spoken like a true baby boomer who’s never read a word of Buddhist or Hindu history but is enamored with the idea of the exotic. War between sects was and is strikingly common, as are stories of Buddhist monks raiding villages like viking robbers. To say nothing of the human sacrifice. There’s a reason modern science only arose in the Christian west.

  305. c matt says:
    @Realist

    Somebody’s got to control people.

  306. Ragno says:

    I printed out this entire comments section and mailed it to Ann Coulter with a note reading

    Dear Ann
    None of these people were under the influence of marijuana when they posted these comments.

    I believe you’re now in “check”, dear.

    Cordially,
    Ragno

  307. jondoe says:

    You, Sir are an ignorant wretch as regards Christianity.

    When one has to make the starving baby argument, one has no argument. You did that right away, then devolved into the Super Baby Argument of medieval torture. Yet, in my church, there are two homeless families living in our basement in the quarters we have to house homeless families, and we will feed them and help them get housing. Christianity does good works to help those in need, and has provided more charity than any other organization, ever, governments included, in the history of earth.

    Then, you suggest that Yemen, where the Muslims maintain an open-air slave market, would be better off if the U.S. was not intervening, because Christianity is bad. Meantime, you argue that it is wrong for us to state that we are loyal to our only ally in the middle east, which is also the only democracy and the only place where religious tolerance exists.

    We have a secular government, where people of all religions are allowed to work. They are allowed to speak of their religious convictions. That does not make them bad.

    Ben Franklin said it best: “it is far better to remain silent and have other assume one ignorant, then to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”

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