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It is easy to underestimate the peasantry, the little people. They appear well under control. All seems calm, unless one looks carefully. The means of control work smoothly: the legions, the church, the media, the secret police, the enforcers of political correctness. The serfs are cowed. Why worry about a distant peonage? Do we not have our castles? Let us dance and drink champagne.

And comes the guillotine.

I know three young women of exceptional intelligence and talent, all of them mature and disciplined. They cannot find jobs. It is not from lack of trying, far from it. One of them is married to a hard-working man in a highly technical field usually associated with wealth. He is paid a low hourly wage and forced to work on contract, meaning that he has neither benefits nor retirement. His employers know that if he leaves, they can easily find another to take his place. They have him where they want him.

Which may prove a mistake.

Yet this is become a pattern. In a country that prides itself on wealth and justice and boundless opportunity, none of these things actually exists except for our Bourbons. The rich in their palaces in Manhattan and Santa Clara prosper mightily, often by impoverishing the rest. It has happened many times in history. The results have been similar.

The guillotine was devised as a humanitarian measure to cut off a criminal’s head cleanly, the ax-wielding headsmen of the time being notorious for missed strokes and subsequent horror. When the meek and mild peasantry rose in 1789, proving to be less meek and mild than believed, the humanitarian aspects of the instrument were forgotten. The populace just wanted to see their betters bleed. They saw.

In the United States of today, clouds gather as the royalty toast each other with expensive wines. In numbers that a half century ago would have seemed impossible, the American young live with their parents, being unable to find jobs to support themselves. Waitressing in a good bar pays better in tips than a woman with a college degree can otherwise earn, assuming that she can earn anything at all. Employers having learned to hire them as individual contractors, they move into their thirties with no hope of a pension for their old age.

Desperation and hatred are close cousins.

Meanwhile, Jeffrey Bezos of Amazon makes spaceships and buys the Washington Post as a toy and the newspapers have reported that a Croesus of Wall Street has bought a Modigliani, it may have been, for $55 million dollars.

Marie didn’t actually say, “Let them eat cake,” but might well have. Instead they ate her. But it can’t happen here. Oh no.

The homeless in San Francisco are now described as “a plague.” There seem to be ever more of them. But not to worry. Never worry. The stock market remains exuberant. In nearby Silicon Valley, a man buys a new Lamborghini every year.

The Russians simply shot their royal family in a basement in Ekaterinburg. The Romanovs, or at least those Romanovs, were actually nice people, very much an Ozzie and Harriet family. Perhaps if you met Bezos, or Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates or Elon Musk, you would find them charming, even decent. They probably give money to charity. So did Andrew Carnegie. The Romanovs just didn’t pay enough attention. Neither, perhaps, do newer Romanovs.

Unrest breeds surprises. Maybe Louis XVI thought, “It can never happen here.” Today the African population of America is openly insurgent, the middle class sinks, jobs continue leaving under the stewardship of the rich, the government either will not or cannot enforce its laws, the borders are open, half of the country seethes in fury at the other half, and the sale of guns is at record heights.

When people realize that they really have no country, only a collection of rapacious interests, history becomes…creative. In theory, Congress and the President have the well-being of the nation at heart and at least to some extent seek to effect the betterment of the whole. Really they are carrion birds picking the carcass clean and, perhaps, planning flight to the French Riviera.

Mussolini ended as an ornament in the Italian street, hanging upside down from a meat hook. He should have paid more attention.

A short walk from the Capitol in Washington, whole housing developments lie empty, their windows sometimes bricked up to keep the derelicts out. In abandoned houses turned shooting galleries, of which there are many, empty cans of Vienna sausages and old bottles of fortified wine lie among used needles and rags stained with things better not reflected upon. You can live for a surprising time on Vienna sausages, Night Train, and Ritz crackers. Many do. Their organs eventually fail.

No one sees these things, so they cannot be important. A forty-five minute walk away, in Colonial Village across Key Bridge in Virginia, I once bought an 835-square-foot condo for $140,000 and later sold it for $300,000. It is well that the economy flourishes. We live in a land of opportunity.

In this best of all possible worlds the wealthy buy homes for $100 million and sleep secure in their beds, knowing that only half of the country would love to hang them from lamp posts. True, the rise of Donald Trump may disturb the elites a bit as they enrich themselves by sending more jobs abroad. But not to worry. Trump is only Mussolini by Disney and the fury his supporters feel toward New York and Washington will go away once we have Hillary in office. Fly-over land doesn’t really matter anyway.

Unless of course it does. In which case Uber should stock up on tumbrils.

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. “When the meek and mild peasantry rose in 1789″: they didn’t on the whole. The revolution was mainly a matter of provincial lawyers and the Paris mob.

    Since the DC mob would be black, there’s not much chance of their doing a competent job.

    Who the equivalent of provincial lawyers might be I’m not sure. Maybe IT people, hacking into government systems?

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    No, lawyers. Right first time.

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    This talk of tumbrils and cakes reminded me of a dialogue between Napoleon and one of Louis XVI’s courtiers. It went more or less like this:

    “Why didn’t the army quell the revolution before it got out of hand?”
    “His Majesty would not allow the soldiers to shoot at the people.”
    “That was stupid!”

    I don’t think the betters will repeat this mistake this time around.

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  3. @dearieme
    "When the meek and mild peasantry rose in 1789": they didn't on the whole. The revolution was mainly a matter of provincial lawyers and the Paris mob.

    Since the DC mob would be black, there's not much chance of their doing a competent job.

    Who the equivalent of provincial lawyers might be I'm not sure. Maybe IT people, hacking into government systems?
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  4. I read that when Jay Gould was asked what he would do if half the country rose up in revolt, he replied, “I’ll hire the other half to kill them.” The US government could shut down the various mini-riots we’ve seen recently with a few bursts from an M-60. None of these kids stealing TVs cares about anything, they just want loot and those in power want to use them to scare the middle class into obeying. We’ll be living in a full fledged police state long before the rabble moves away from their 60″ televisions.

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    • Replies: @Dr. X

    We’ll be living in a full fledged police state long before the rabble moves away from their 60″ televisions.
     
    The full-fledged police state is already well underway. Next step will be Hillary's massive gun control. They've already done it in NY, California, Massachusetts, and Connecticut.

    California just passed a law banning all AR-15s, AKs, and magazines over 10 rounds. Ammo control, too -- no ammo sales without government approval. They even made it illegal to bring more than 50 rounds in from out of state.

    When the SHTF the powers-that-be want to make absolutely sure that the street rabble have nothing but rocks to throw at the highly-paid mercenary cops, who will be in APCs, armed with M-4s, and wearing Kevlar and Level IV body armor.

  5. The elites are so anxious to do away with a Christianity that impedes their worst aspirations, that they don’t recognize that a population they have cleansed of it, will show them no Christian charity, forgiveness or mercy.

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    • Replies: @Jeff77450
    Good point. If there is no Supreme Being providing guidance as to what constitutes right-and-wrong then we're left with the "social contract," which works reasonably well in a society based on the rule-of-law, or the law of the jungle when civilization collapses.
  6. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    People with ass tattoos don’t make revolution.

    That’s why the elites are safe.

    The masses may not be doing well, but the government provides them with free food and basic necessities. And Pop Culture is the religion of the masses, and they line up to get their ever-fattening asses tattooed. They have no sense of reality, morality, or truth. Even Conservatives are for ‘trannies in military’ and ‘gay marriage’. Values are dead. There is no core conviction except “My want my free pizza, my videogame, and my ass tattoo.”

    The idea of a revolution instigated by people with ass tattoos would be a first in history.

    Aint gonna happen.

    It’s like the 60s. There was so much tumult, but it was really more about Rock n Roll and Pot than Marx and Che Guevara. All those Woodstock potheads were not gonna change the world. They were too stoned and dancing like tards to Santana. They sacrificed their souls to mammon. (Great musical performance by Santana though.)

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    • Disagree: Ozymandias
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "It's not gonna happen" and "everything is under control" is what all the victims of revolutions have been thinking, in some cases up to a few hours before their fall.

    I would rather say that it's not sure that it's going to happen. But it may well do.
    , @dc.sunsets
    It’s like the 60s. There was so much tumult, but it was really more about Rock n Roll and Pot than Marx and Che Guevara. All those Woodstock potheads were not gonna change the world. They were too stoned and dancing like tards to Santana. They sacrificed their souls to mammon. (Great musical performance by Santana though.)

    No, it's not like the 1960's.

    Not One Bit.

    In the 1960's Americans (overwhelmingly white) were coming off the euphoric rise in living standards that came from 1) being the only country standing after WW2 and 2) the release of massive pent-up demand that followed War Socialism and rationing.

    Americans were besotted with self-satisfaction, which fueled the manic embrace of "Guns and Butter for EVERYONE!" in the Civil Rights Act and Immigration Act of that period. America was like the useless offspring of a highly capable industrialist: no notion of from where prosperity came, and a self-destructive sense of entitlement combined with a leftist's embrace that prosperity magically appears and is unlimited...so it should be handed to any and all.

    For 50 years the USA has pursued a "have our cake and eat it too" approach entirely funded by borrowing and the perception that borrowing actually creates wealth. This is the logical path of a fully fiat monetary regime.

    Allan borrows from Bill (Bill owns the bank, so what Bill loans out is not represented by prior production, it just is an accounting fiction.). Allan spends the loan proceeds to buy Carl's junk, and Carl deposits the money in Bill's bank. Bill makes money charging Allan interest on "wealth" that Bill created by pressing some keys on a keyboard. The systematic effect is that while the loan exists, all pre-existing money is debased by that amount, but when the loan is paid off the "moneyness" of the loan disappears.

    This went off track, however, in 1980 when the capital value of debt began to rise (as rates fell.) This meant that the more Allan borrowed and squandered, and the more Bill loaned out:
    1. The richer everyone who held the IOU's felt.
    2. The more Carl's could arise to satisfy all that excess "demand from nowhere."
    3. The richer everyone felt, the more they bid up the prices of everything.

    So here we are, in 2016, on the shore of an OCEAN of bonds (IOU's), with interest rates near zero, reflecting a level of complacency never recorded in history, with every week carrying another illustration that people are collectively INSANE and getting more so (WW-T, the normalizing of one insanity after another, and the elevation of people who can't even feed themselves to the status of demigods to whom resources should flow unimpeded.)

    You think think this is like the 60's?

    Oh, PLEASE hang around and be patient. Do not mistake the last 50 years of increasingly bizarre collectivism as an indication that this is either normal or sustainable.

    For 50 years people in the West have collectively discarded the wisdom of the past while embracing a Jonestown level of self-destruction at which an objective observer can only be left astonished.

    In the 1960's people were at the early edge of embracing the notion that resources are unlimited. Today we're surely experiencing the final, peak-level delusions of that folly, and when sentiment turns and people re-interpret the data that surround us, the term that will apply is "phase change." What is today by all appearances liquid will be rock solid in no time.

    Resources are not unlimited.
  7. My wife and son are currently visiting relatives in her natal Sweden. I’ve squirted a few facts about how Sweden is now the rape capital of the world, outside Lesotho and immigrants are the rapists.
    No-one denies this.
    I ask what the Swedish men have as their plan to stop this and get nothing.

    And these fuckers used to be vikings?

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    And these fuckers used to be vikings?
     
    No, the fuckers are the muslim rapists. The Swedes are pussies.
    , @helena
    "And these fuckers used to be vikings?"

    Well, no, because their ancestors didn't go a-viking.

    , @Pericles
    Why, we leave it to the police, of course, who will then after a suitable interval close the books due to lack of evidence.

    NB: To follow along with the URLs, you will probably need to use Google Translate and/or Chrome.

    (For example, 97 cases of sexual assault/groping/forced disrobement, rape, etc at music festivals this summer, 60 of which now have been closed as unsolvable. The victims are often high school girls. See here: http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/sexbrott-pa-festivaler-forblir-olosta/ )

    However, our feminists even now insist that we are equally, if not more, guilty than our muslim guests of sexual crimes. "More" because we really should know better than our less educated brethren. For example, Barbro Sörman, Stockholm's regional political boss of the former communists, considers rape by Swedes worse than rape by muslims.


    De svenska män som våldtar gör ju det trots uppväxt med jämställdhet. De gör ett aktivt val. Det är värre imo.

     

    "The swedish men who rape do it in spite of growing up with feminism/equality. They are making an active choice. It's worse, in my opinion."

    and (I'll just provide the translation of a tweet):


    A focus on the nationality of the perpetrator regarding sexual crimes does 2 things:
    1. Cements racist social structures
    2. Means swedish men do not have to take responsibility

     

    "- It's, like, a greater crime." she subsequently adds.

    http://www.friatider.se/v-toppen-varre-nar-svenska-man-valdtar-an-nar-invandrare-gor-det

    An earlier attempt (February 2016) by Swedish men to actually provide personal protection for women against migrants led to hundreds of feminists protesting on social media.

    For example, "kickanwicksell" then commented:


    Jag är inte er kvinna. Jag vill inte ha ert skydd. De ni säger er skydda mig från är mina kamrater. Mina medmänniskor. Våra barn. Det är er jag är rädd för. Det är ni som är irrationella och verklighetsfrånvända. Det är ni som är våldsamma. Det är ni som ifrågasätter mina rättigheter. Använd inte mig eller mitt namn i era smutsiga syften.

     

    Or, "I am not your woman. I don't want your protection. What you say you are protecting me from, are my friends. Humans just the same as us. Our children. It's you I fear. It's you who are irrational and you who refuse to see reality. It's you who are violent. It's you who question my rights. Don't use me or my name for your filthy purposes."

    So I guess there is still some way to go. More here:

    http://www.svd.se/upprop-pa-sociala-medier-vi-ar-inte-era-kvinnor/om/det-framlingsfientliga-valdet

    , @Jim Christian
    Why should the men do anything to stop the immigrants, the rapes or any of the fallout? The women wanted it, they enacted speech codes, they've raised a pussy generation of men per feminism. The Matriarchy wanted lots of immigration, they got it. That there are unpleasant side effects, too bad. But it isn't for the men to worry about. Don't worry, Bill. Feminism tells us good liberal feminist women are strong. Now come down off that White Horse and enjoy the decline. You can't save women, it's over. Besides, they've been so hateful as a gender and political force the past forty years they deserve no saving in any case.
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    @Priss Factor
    People with ass tattoos don't make revolution.

    That's why the elites are safe.

    The masses may not be doing well, but the government provides them with free food and basic necessities. And Pop Culture is the religion of the masses, and they line up to get their ever-fattening asses tattooed. They have no sense of reality, morality, or truth. Even Conservatives are for 'trannies in military' and 'gay marriage'. Values are dead. There is no core conviction except "My want my free pizza, my videogame, and my ass tattoo."

    The idea of a revolution instigated by people with ass tattoos would be a first in history.

    Aint gonna happen.

    It's like the 60s. There was so much tumult, but it was really more about Rock n Roll and Pot than Marx and Che Guevara. All those Woodstock potheads were not gonna change the world. They were too stoned and dancing like tards to Santana. They sacrificed their souls to mammon. (Great musical performance by Santana though.)

    “It’s not gonna happen” and “everything is under control” is what all the victims of revolutions have been thinking, in some cases up to a few hours before their fall.

    I would rather say that it’s not sure that it’s going to happen. But it may well do.

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  9. Dear Fred,

    Tobolsk, not Yekaterinburg.

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    • Replies: @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Tobolsk is where the Romanovs were held before being moved to Ekaterinberg and subsequently murdered.
  10. When people realize that they really have no country, only a collection of rapacious interests, history becomes…creative.” Fred, I think you nailed the part that I’ve italicized. There is no America, according to what I’ve deduced over the years. By “America”, I mean sovereign citizens deciding how they wish to be governed in some sort of transparent fashion that respects individual liberty of thought, word, and deed

    Not sure about “history becomes . . . creative”, not yet at least. America is still replete with massive armies of salaried and nominally well-educated helper monkeys who don’t see what they’re doing or don’t care what they’re doing, or are too frightened for their jobs. There’s the Ferro Corporation Ph. D.-manager who told me frankly his employer’s goals were to globalize manufacturing, and retain only headquarters and research functions within the States. Fair enough, I suppose, but these same multinationals are likely to fight efforts by their onetime host country (i. e., the United States) to modulate the hardships caused by their factory shutdowns. That sounds like malice to me, but few people I know want to believe that. They still believe there are “safety nets” for the skilled tradesman tossed from his job, the poverty-level adjunct college prof, and so on.

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  11. Fred,
    Overall you are right (as usual) but in this article the analogies you have chosen do not seem to represent the present situation in the USA. The French Revolution was organized by Freemasonry, in Russia it was the (((Bolsheviks))), and in the case of Mussolini it had nothing to do with the economy. They hanged him only because he lost the war.
    In the USA today it is something else. If there is a revolution it will pretty much be AGAINST the forces that destroyed the Ancient Regime and the Czars.

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yes, the French Revolution was not some simple peasant uprising, more like the bourgeoisie displacing the nobility. And peasants often sided with the nobility e.g. in the Vendee.
  12. “It was the best of times. It was the worst of times…”

    A few random thoughts:

    -Forget about angry Peasants with pitchforks. Revolutions always come from the middle. (In France it was the Middle Class that was being squeezed, as it is now in the United States.) And the disconnected elites are always surprised when it happens. Reference ‘How Tyrannies Implode’ at PJ Media – https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/02/27/how-tyrannies-implode/?singlepage=true – to get an idea of how fast the established order can fall to pieces.

    -It’s beginning to feel like both just before both 1787 *and* August 1914/September 1939. (My mom, speaking from firsthand experience, will tell you it feels like 1939. I have no reason to doubt her.)

    -My take:

    If Hilary gets in, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    If Trump gets whacked or “has an accident” before taking office, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    If Trump gets in but doesn’t deliver on his promises, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    And if some idiot starts World War III, thinking that it will “pull people together” or “unite the country,” then…well, you know

    -Pre-Revolution, beheading pretty much was reserved for the Aristocracy. It was the Peasants who got themselves hung, a process of slow strangulation. In the spirit of egalitarianism, the Revolution introduced beheading as a more humane form of execution for all. The Guillotine also made the process quite efficient; on an assembly line basis, it was possible to dispatch a victim every 90 seconds.

    -Factoid Time:

    The blade assembly on a Guillotine weighs in at about 88 lbs. The drop on a Guillotine blade is about 88 inches.

    Those two bits of information combined together make for an interesting hashtag or bit of graffiti: #88/88.

    I like reading history, but I don’t want to live it.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

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    • Replies: @Jeff77450
    If electing a black man who opening despised white people--"she was the typical white person" and "clinging to God and guns and fear of 'the other'"--didn't cause a civil war or a revolution then neither will electing Hillary. I don't deny that she'll be very bad for America, as were her two or three immediate predecessors.
    , @Incitatus
    “Forget about angry Peasants with pitchforks. Revolutions always come from the middle. (In France it was the Middle Class that was being squeezed, as it is now in the United States.)”

    Wishful thinking. No doubt you consider yourself middle class. So does every Senator and Congressman.

    It was the already grossly encumbered peasant, the main/only taxpayer, that was being squeezed in Anciene Régime France. Not the “Middle Class” (bourgeoisie). BTW I like Dickens too, but it’s not his best effort.
  13. Oh, a storm is threat’ning
    My very life today
    If I don’t get some shelter
    Oh yeah, I’m gonna fade away

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  14. @DH
    Fred,
    Overall you are right (as usual) but in this article the analogies you have chosen do not seem to represent the present situation in the USA. The French Revolution was organized by Freemasonry, in Russia it was the (((Bolsheviks))), and in the case of Mussolini it had nothing to do with the economy. They hanged him only because he lost the war.
    In the USA today it is something else. If there is a revolution it will pretty much be AGAINST the forces that destroyed the Ancient Regime and the Czars.

    Yes, the French Revolution was not some simple peasant uprising, more like the bourgeoisie displacing the nobility. And peasants often sided with the nobility e.g. in the Vendee.

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    • Replies: @Outwest
    Along with the financial troubles Louis IV had after his wars, he also lured the local nobility to Versailles with rather asinine ceremonies. The local control was taken over by low ranking functionaries under central control. Without the local touch of nobility that served royalty there arose a nationalism that questioned the royal privilege. The bourgeoisie became sophisticated and decided to cut out, as it were, the top authority as obsolete.

    For all its shortcomings, the earlier American rejection of royalty worked a bit better.
  15. Mussolini’s regime may not have been as successful as it claimed to be, but he did better by his people than many countries, especially considering its level of underdevelopment when he started.

    He was fine until he hitched his wagon to Hitler. Italy was not ready to take advantage of that nor strong enough to get out in time, nor I suppose was he smart enough to make that leap, or perhaps had he left himself enough options to do so and stay in power.

    All in all, his uniformed authoritarian melodrama was not quite my cup of tea, but he earned some positives. And his partisan foes were mostly communists, so fair’s fair. They did to him as he would have done to them, although I suspect they better deserved the fate.

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  16. @Bill Jones
    My wife and son are currently visiting relatives in her natal Sweden. I've squirted a few facts about how Sweden is now the rape capital of the world, outside Lesotho and immigrants are the rapists.
    No-one denies this.
    I ask what the Swedish men have as their plan to stop this and get nothing.

    And these fuckers used to be vikings?

    And these fuckers used to be vikings?

    No, the fuckers are the muslim rapists. The Swedes are pussies.

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  17. @Marcus
    Yes, the French Revolution was not some simple peasant uprising, more like the bourgeoisie displacing the nobility. And peasants often sided with the nobility e.g. in the Vendee.

    Along with the financial troubles Louis IV had after his wars, he also lured the local nobility to Versailles with rather asinine ceremonies. The local control was taken over by low ranking functionaries under central control. Without the local touch of nobility that served royalty there arose a nationalism that questioned the royal privilege. The bourgeoisie became sophisticated and decided to cut out, as it were, the top authority as obsolete.

    For all its shortcomings, the earlier American rejection of royalty worked a bit better.

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  18. @Fran Macadam
    The elites are so anxious to do away with a Christianity that impedes their worst aspirations, that they don't recognize that a population they have cleansed of it, will show them no Christian charity, forgiveness or mercy.

    Good point. If there is no Supreme Being providing guidance as to what constitutes right-and-wrong then we’re left with the “social contract,” which works reasonably well in a society based on the rule-of-law, or the law of the jungle when civilization collapses.

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  19. @ViCB3
    "It was the best of times. It was the worst of times..."

    A few random thoughts:

    -Forget about angry Peasants with pitchforks. Revolutions always come from the middle. (In France it was the Middle Class that was being squeezed, as it is now in the United States.) And the disconnected elites are always surprised when it happens. Reference ‘How Tyrannies Implode’ at PJ Media – https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/02/27/how-tyrannies-implode/?singlepage=true – to get an idea of how fast the established order can fall to pieces.

    -It's beginning to feel like both just before both 1787 *and* August 1914/September 1939. (My mom, speaking from firsthand experience, will tell you it feels like 1939. I have no reason to doubt her.)

    -My take:

    If Hilary gets in, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    If Trump gets whacked or “has an accident” before taking office, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    If Trump gets in but doesn’t deliver on his promises, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    And if some idiot starts World War III, thinking that it will “pull people together” or “unite the country,” then…well, you know

    -Pre-Revolution, beheading pretty much was reserved for the Aristocracy. It was the Peasants who got themselves hung, a process of slow strangulation. In the spirit of egalitarianism, the Revolution introduced beheading as a more humane form of execution for all. The Guillotine also made the process quite efficient; on an assembly line basis, it was possible to dispatch a victim every 90 seconds.

    -Factoid Time:

    The blade assembly on a Guillotine weighs in at about 88 lbs. The drop on a Guillotine blade is about 88 inches.

    Those two bits of information combined together make for an interesting hashtag or bit of graffiti: #88/88.

    I like reading history, but I don’t want to live it.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    If electing a black man who opening despised white people–”she was the typical white person” and “clinging to God and guns and fear of ‘the other’”–didn’t cause a civil war or a revolution then neither will electing Hillary. I don’t deny that she’ll be very bad for America, as were her two or three immediate predecessors.

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    • Replies: @ViCB3
    That was then; this is now.

    8 years ago you didn't have people talking Texit. And gun sales were a fraction of what they are now.

    Things change. And as, say, Nicolae Ceausescu and his (much despised) wife Elena discovered, they can change quickly. One day he's making a speech at a carefully organized mass rally that suddenly goes South. Three days later, and still wearing the same clothes, he and the Missus are put up against a wall and shot on live TV by the Army.

    And that's just one example from history.

    When people are angry and things tip, they can tip very hard indeed.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3
  20. Oh Fred, they might say you’re a dreamer, but you’re not the only one . . .

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  21. @Jeff77450
    If electing a black man who opening despised white people--"she was the typical white person" and "clinging to God and guns and fear of 'the other'"--didn't cause a civil war or a revolution then neither will electing Hillary. I don't deny that she'll be very bad for America, as were her two or three immediate predecessors.

    That was then; this is now.

    8 years ago you didn’t have people talking Texit. And gun sales were a fraction of what they are now.

    Things change. And as, say, Nicolae Ceausescu and his (much despised) wife Elena discovered, they can change quickly. One day he’s making a speech at a carefully organized mass rally that suddenly goes South. Three days later, and still wearing the same clothes, he and the Missus are put up against a wall and shot on live TV by the Army.

    And that’s just one example from history.

    When people are angry and things tip, they can tip very hard indeed.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

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  22. Bring it on, I’d love to see the billionaires dangle from a rope- and I’m not the only one!

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    The article made some salient points as did the comments. However the truth is that not until the inevitable complete economic collapse comes about due to the massive, unsustainable and unpayable crushing federal debt, along with massive business and individual debt, will revolution and class war occur. But fear not, it cannot be long. The globalist White Collar Mafia in America and their counterparts elsewhere have basically outsmarted themselves refusing to realize or recognize that natural laws and economics will bring their whole rotten house of cards down in the near future and destroy their “bubbles”. When the next Depression comes it will make the 1930s look like a tea party with high double digit unemployment, widespread abject poverty, worthless currency, etc. while looting, theft, robbery, burglary will all become endemic as people will do whatever it takes to feed their families. Given America’s heavily armed population things will get ugly very quickly. The elite smugly think because they have investments overseas and private jets and yachts to reach these “safe havens” they and theirs will be protected. However the fact is they have outsmarted themselves by cobbling together a “global economy” and the United States remains both the biggest debtor and biggest creditor nation on earth. Once the U.S. “big boy on the block” collapses it will bring most “interconnected” national and regional economies worldwide down with it. At that point there will be few if any “safe havens” for the oligarchs. Oh well they have built their own scaffolds—high, wide, and handsome. Many patriots know who they are and where they live and know the politicians and media are but their prostitutes doing their dirty work. Many of them will lose their lives a la the French and Russian royal families and aristocrats in other catastrophes.

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  24. Jobs are the most effective form of social control. If our elites are making a mistake, it is in lavishing entitlements on people who are not subject to the discipline of work. As we see in Baltimore, Milwaukee, etc: it is the leisured lower class that riots.

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    "...it is the leisured lower class that riots."
    True. The US government has abrogated its responsibility for supporting a healthy economy in the US, which should have been invigorated with mega infrastructure projects, like developing the ecologically safe mass transit, and innovation projects, like investing in renewals sources of energy, as well as maintaining protectionism. Instead the US government became a tool and cash caw for war profiteers, banksters, and mega-corporations (Oilmen, Monsanto & BigPharma).
    As for intellectual mediocrities of any ethnicity and class, they need good trade schools.
  25. I read that when Jay Gould was asked what he would do if half the country rose up in revolt, he replied, “I’ll hire the other half to kill them.” The US government could shut down the various mini-riots we’ve seen recently with a few bursts from an M-60. None of these kids stealing TVs cares about anything, they just want loot and those in power want to use them to scare the middle class into obeying. We’ll be living in a full fledged police state long before the rabble moves away from their 60″ televisions.

    How many guerrilla wars has the American military won since, oh, the end of the 18th century? Wait, I’ll put it another way: has the American military won even a single guerrilla war, since the end of the 18th century?

    Goat herders, paddy farmers, heh. Wait ’til they get a load of what engineers and chemists can do. Get ready for garage-built drones, Mr. Jackboot…

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    • Replies: @Thim
    All very well, but you miss the main point. So many of the military people will be the first to rebel. They are very well informed, and they are mad as hell. Don't assume their loyalty to the regime when TSHTF.
    , @Rich
    As for your question about how many guerrilla wars the US has won, how many wars has the US lost? The elites in power today are pretty closely related to the elites of yesterday and they're richer than their ancestors could ever have imagined when they boarded those wooden boats long ago.
    As for guerrilla wars won since the end of the 18th century, the list is endless:
    American Indians Wars - Apache, Comanche, Sioux, etc.
    Pancho Villa Expedition led by Black Jack Pershing
    US-Philippine War
    Various defeats of guerrillas in Central America throughout 19th and 20th century
    Guerrilla fighting against Japanese troops during WWII
    Defeat of the VC in South Vietnam - I know everyone wants to talk about how the North Vietnamese Army conquered South Vietnam a couple years after the US withdrew, but the fact is the VC were long finished as a guerrilla force by 1969.
    If you believe the Taliban or Al Qaeda are waging a successful guerrilla campaign against US forces since their defeat in the Afghan, we'll have to disagree.
  26. But, I kid. Fun to imagine, but it would never come to that. USG would race to the negotiating table. They’d move so fast, they’d travel back in time.

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  27. Two couplets from two songs whose names I cannot recall

    I love to hear that revolutionary sound
    of concrete crashing to the ground
    the following is not a couplet but just one line

    wild wild women and desperate men (song about Cuban Revolution)

    The American people are too fat and too simple-minded to get off their collective asses to revolt, sorry to say.

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    • Replies: @Dr. X

    The American people are too fat and too simple-minded to get off their collective asses to revolt, sorry to say.
     
    Correct. The American marshmallow is no 1776 Minuteman. He will never revolt. What WILL happen is that the elites will lose their grip, the Ponzi scheme will collapse, and the blacks will go on a looting/crime spree and hack the fat, stupid whites to death as if it were Rwanda -- except that, unlike Rwanda, they'll steal flat-screens after the murders.

    The fat, stupid whites will then beg for the government to suspend the Constitution and impose martial law.
  28. @Svigor

    I read that when Jay Gould was asked what he would do if half the country rose up in revolt, he replied, “I’ll hire the other half to kill them.” The US government could shut down the various mini-riots we’ve seen recently with a few bursts from an M-60. None of these kids stealing TVs cares about anything, they just want loot and those in power want to use them to scare the middle class into obeying. We’ll be living in a full fledged police state long before the rabble moves away from their 60″ televisions.
     
    How many guerrilla wars has the American military won since, oh, the end of the 18th century? Wait, I'll put it another way: has the American military won even a single guerrilla war, since the end of the 18th century?

    Goat herders, paddy farmers, heh. Wait 'til they get a load of what engineers and chemists can do. Get ready for garage-built drones, Mr. Jackboot...

    All very well, but you miss the main point. So many of the military people will be the first to rebel. They are very well informed, and they are mad as hell. Don’t assume their loyalty to the regime when TSHTF.

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    • Replies: @Stan d Mute

    So many of the military people will be the first to rebel. They are very well informed, and they are mad as hell. Don’t assume their loyalty to the regime when TSHTF.
     
    More importantly, the tools of government enforcement are drawn from the ranks of the oppressed people. Are Marines going to start firing on a mob that may contain their friends, siblings, even their parents? The unanswerable question is what will it take for Joe Plumber the middle class guy to risk everything and make a stand. We've seen a couple small scale insurrections out West, but what could conceivably ignite large scale defiance? The utter collapse of our economy is one perhaps, but what else? Full scale negro rioting in all our cities simultaneously? Those riots escaping the urban core and moving out into suburbia? I'd never have believed German men would passively watch while their nation is invaded by millions of hostile Arabs and negroes. Nor would I have believed Scandinavian men could just passively watch while their daughters and wives are made sex toys for still more Arabs and negroes. Our European brothers sit and do nothing while ever larger areas of their ancestral homelands fall to complete control of the invaders.

    I'd like to think American men are built of sterner stuff, but look at the crime and violence we tolerate from our negroes and Mexican invaders. Tens of thousands of white women, from young girls to geriatric grandmothers, have been raped and still white "men" cheer for their favorite gang of negroes in yoga pants every Saturday and Sunday afternoon and pay handsomely for clothing with their negro hero's name on the back. It's hard to imagine such "men" ever standing up against those who seek to dispossess us.
  29. The American people are too fat and too simple-minded to get off their collective asses to revolt, sorry to say.

    True. And the ones who always pipe up with the “‘Murrican gov’t is inVINcible!” are the fattest and stupidest of them all.

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Well, I'd say the Blacks are certainly in a mood to revolt from time to time in many ways large and small. It's a stretch to say folks wouldn't ever revolt, but so far, they haven't yet been given sufficient reason. True famine will bring revolt. What we have now? Not so much, except for the Blacks and their contentions, many instilled by a political system that benefits from their angst. The war protests and civil riots in the sixties certainly brought about policy changes, but we those revolts? When hundreds of thousands take to the streets, outside your Pentagon building, I'd say so, yes.

    One thing for sure, a bunch of militia guys (or even bands of Black for that matter) and their collection of weapons isn't going to make a dent in a band of local, State and Federal civilian government entities armed with the very best killing gear the American taxpayer can buy. And that's not to mention the United States military/National Guard. The mechanisms exist to put that sort of thing down right quick.

  30. France in the period just before the French Revolution experienced high inflation which was a great hardship for the urban working class whose wages lagged behind the cost of food. However the urban working class was less than 10% of the population of France at that time. The vast majority of the population then did consist of peasants. However the peasants in France actually were benefiting from the inflation as the price of the food they produced was rising more than their expenses.

    Economic disaffection among the peasants was thus NOT one of the causes of the French Revolution.

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    • Replies: @Incitatus
    “Economic disaffection among the peasants was thus NOT one of the causes of the French Revolution.”

    Not even a little bit?

    The Anciene Régime comprised three estates: clergy (.0.04% population), nobility (1.57% population), and commoners (bourgeoisie + peasants: 98.39% population). The first two estates owned most of the land and had a monopoly on privilege and position. Only the third estate paid taxes. The bourgeoisie had some exemption options. In the end, peasants got royally screwed. And they knew it.

    Taxes (the gabelle, lods et ventes, taille, cens et rentes, parish dues) held the peasant as firmly as a straightjacket. He was the engine enabling the whole rotten mess. The clergy, nobility, and bourgeoisie didn’t rebel - they had something to lose.

    What will happen when American peasants discover Donald has never paid income tax? When they realize Hilary has a tax-exempt foundation that’s a slush fund for family sinecure and expense?

    They came close with Mitt. A 13.9% tax rate on $21,600,000 income? The same rate as a $35,000/yr AGI wage earner? After all, Mitt made $59,000/day -every day - in 2010. Can the wage earner take a $70,000+ deduction (therapy) for his wife’s horse?

    The only genuine thing Mitt said during the campaign was captured at a $50,000/plate Florida fundraiser (itself a prime example of decadence). His emotional lament on the 47% that didn’t pay tax wasn’t regret at not being able to attract their vote. It was envy. How could they figure out how to evade all taxes, one of his lifetime goals? Donald, to give him credit, is honest about it. But no less conflicted.
  31. @Bill Jones
    My wife and son are currently visiting relatives in her natal Sweden. I've squirted a few facts about how Sweden is now the rape capital of the world, outside Lesotho and immigrants are the rapists.
    No-one denies this.
    I ask what the Swedish men have as their plan to stop this and get nothing.

    And these fuckers used to be vikings?

    “And these fuckers used to be vikings?”

    Well, no, because their ancestors didn’t go a-viking.

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    • Replies: @galileounderground
    At least the neo Nazi rooted Sweden Democrats is polling high...

    http://avpixlat.info/2016/08/19/yougov-augusti-5/#more-185513

  32. @FD
    Dear Fred,

    Tobolsk, not Yekaterinburg.

    Tobolsk is where the Romanovs were held before being moved to Ekaterinberg and subsequently murdered.

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  33. @Bill Jones
    My wife and son are currently visiting relatives in her natal Sweden. I've squirted a few facts about how Sweden is now the rape capital of the world, outside Lesotho and immigrants are the rapists.
    No-one denies this.
    I ask what the Swedish men have as their plan to stop this and get nothing.

    And these fuckers used to be vikings?

    Why, we leave it to the police, of course, who will then after a suitable interval close the books due to lack of evidence.

    NB: To follow along with the URLs, you will probably need to use Google Translate and/or Chrome.

    (For example, 97 cases of sexual assault/groping/forced disrobement, rape, etc at music festivals this summer, 60 of which now have been closed as unsolvable. The victims are often high school girls. See here: http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/sexbrott-pa-festivaler-forblir-olosta/ )

    However, our feminists even now insist that we are equally, if not more, guilty than our muslim guests of sexual crimes. “More” because we really should know better than our less educated brethren. For example, Barbro Sörman, Stockholm’s regional political boss of the former communists, considers rape by Swedes worse than rape by muslims.

    De svenska män som våldtar gör ju det trots uppväxt med jämställdhet. De gör ett aktivt val. Det är värre imo.

    “The swedish men who rape do it in spite of growing up with feminism/equality. They are making an active choice. It’s worse, in my opinion.”

    and (I’ll just provide the translation of a tweet):

    A focus on the nationality of the perpetrator regarding sexual crimes does 2 things:
    1. Cements racist social structures
    2. Means swedish men do not have to take responsibility

    “- It’s, like, a greater crime.” she subsequently adds.

    http://www.friatider.se/v-toppen-varre-nar-svenska-man-valdtar-an-nar-invandrare-gor-det

    An earlier attempt (February 2016) by Swedish men to actually provide personal protection for women against migrants led to hundreds of feminists protesting on social media.

    For example, “kickanwicksell” then commented:

    Jag är inte er kvinna. Jag vill inte ha ert skydd. De ni säger er skydda mig från är mina kamrater. Mina medmänniskor. Våra barn. Det är er jag är rädd för. Det är ni som är irrationella och verklighetsfrånvända. Det är ni som är våldsamma. Det är ni som ifrågasätter mina rättigheter. Använd inte mig eller mitt namn i era smutsiga syften.

    Or, “I am not your woman. I don’t want your protection. What you say you are protecting me from, are my friends. Humans just the same as us. Our children. It’s you I fear. It’s you who are irrational and you who refuse to see reality. It’s you who are violent. It’s you who question my rights. Don’t use me or my name for your filthy purposes.”

    So I guess there is still some way to go. More here:

    http://www.svd.se/upprop-pa-sociala-medier-vi-ar-inte-era-kvinnor/om/det-framlingsfientliga-valdet

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    Looks like there's a bug in the comment system. The parent comment of this one sometimes shows up when the article is viewed, sometimes not, at one point it was sorted as number 2 rather than 33. When viewed from my comment page, this article has 33 comments, while at this page it's 34. Hope this helps.
  34. Another article reeking with hypocrisy and omission. No mention of the massive third world immigration into America which is displacing native workers and drastically reducing wages for most.
    Oh, and aren’t most of immigrants from Mexico, where Mr Reed resides. And aren’t the oligarchs – Slim et al – even more conspicuous. It strikes me that there is much more chance of a revolution in Mexico. If I was a rich old gringo living in Mexico like Fred Reed, I would be seriously worried for my own wellbeing. But some people never see it coming, it’s always the Romanovs, the Bourbons or someone else.
    And don’t you believe that Freddy and his family were bad people. The mob of Mayas who hacked them to death with their machetes? They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time….everybody knows Mayans are ordinarily very intelligent, rational people.

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    • Replies: @wrd9
    As long as the USA and the rest of the West can be used as a safety valve for corrupt 3rd world cesspools like Latin America and Africa, there will be little revolution in those areas. Which is why I want a President Trump to deport the 20 million illegals infesting the US. At that point the corrupt kleptocrats will have to finally pay attention. Saving, or more likely delaying, the time when the US becomes a corrupt 3rd world country is well worth doing.
  35. @Pericles
    Why, we leave it to the police, of course, who will then after a suitable interval close the books due to lack of evidence.

    NB: To follow along with the URLs, you will probably need to use Google Translate and/or Chrome.

    (For example, 97 cases of sexual assault/groping/forced disrobement, rape, etc at music festivals this summer, 60 of which now have been closed as unsolvable. The victims are often high school girls. See here: http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/sexbrott-pa-festivaler-forblir-olosta/ )

    However, our feminists even now insist that we are equally, if not more, guilty than our muslim guests of sexual crimes. "More" because we really should know better than our less educated brethren. For example, Barbro Sörman, Stockholm's regional political boss of the former communists, considers rape by Swedes worse than rape by muslims.


    De svenska män som våldtar gör ju det trots uppväxt med jämställdhet. De gör ett aktivt val. Det är värre imo.

     

    "The swedish men who rape do it in spite of growing up with feminism/equality. They are making an active choice. It's worse, in my opinion."

    and (I'll just provide the translation of a tweet):


    A focus on the nationality of the perpetrator regarding sexual crimes does 2 things:
    1. Cements racist social structures
    2. Means swedish men do not have to take responsibility

     

    "- It's, like, a greater crime." she subsequently adds.

    http://www.friatider.se/v-toppen-varre-nar-svenska-man-valdtar-an-nar-invandrare-gor-det

    An earlier attempt (February 2016) by Swedish men to actually provide personal protection for women against migrants led to hundreds of feminists protesting on social media.

    For example, "kickanwicksell" then commented:


    Jag är inte er kvinna. Jag vill inte ha ert skydd. De ni säger er skydda mig från är mina kamrater. Mina medmänniskor. Våra barn. Det är er jag är rädd för. Det är ni som är irrationella och verklighetsfrånvända. Det är ni som är våldsamma. Det är ni som ifrågasätter mina rättigheter. Använd inte mig eller mitt namn i era smutsiga syften.

     

    Or, "I am not your woman. I don't want your protection. What you say you are protecting me from, are my friends. Humans just the same as us. Our children. It's you I fear. It's you who are irrational and you who refuse to see reality. It's you who are violent. It's you who question my rights. Don't use me or my name for your filthy purposes."

    So I guess there is still some way to go. More here:

    http://www.svd.se/upprop-pa-sociala-medier-vi-ar-inte-era-kvinnor/om/det-framlingsfientliga-valdet

    Looks like there’s a bug in the comment system. The parent comment of this one sometimes shows up when the article is viewed, sometimes not, at one point it was sorted as number 2 rather than 33. When viewed from my comment page, this article has 33 comments, while at this page it’s 34. Hope this helps.

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    When people realize that they really have no country, only a collection of rapacious interests, history becomes…creative.

    And that’s the beauty of diversity. The Babylon divides people, making them a lot less dangerous.

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  37. While sympathetic, I find scant evidence that any such uprising would take place over the next 20 to 40 years. Indeed, the evidence points in the other direction.

    Texas, California and New Mexico already look like what the rest of the country will look like in 20 to 40 years. Do you see white militias forming to fight the government in Houston or San Diego?

    No, those three states point to the slow decline of the country into 2nd world status where upper-middle class and wealthy whites insulate and isolate while working-class whites get pushed to the margin or blend in with Hispanics (and, occasionally, blacks). The remaining middle-class whites fight to maintain some dignity.

    Brazil functions. Mexico functions. The United States will function. Of course, the United States in coming decades will bear almost no resemblance to the country that existed for several hundred years. But it likely will slip into that good night quite quietly.

    Of course, I could be wrong. I hope that I’m wrong. (God knows that I’ve tried to get my white friends and neighbors to show some pride and fight.) However, whites show zero indication that they are willing to fight for their race, and for that, we deserve what we will get. (I say that as a father of two children and as someone who understands what that means for them. I will simply do my best to keep them above the fray.)

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  38. @Bill Jones
    My wife and son are currently visiting relatives in her natal Sweden. I've squirted a few facts about how Sweden is now the rape capital of the world, outside Lesotho and immigrants are the rapists.
    No-one denies this.
    I ask what the Swedish men have as their plan to stop this and get nothing.

    And these fuckers used to be vikings?

    Why should the men do anything to stop the immigrants, the rapes or any of the fallout? The women wanted it, they enacted speech codes, they’ve raised a pussy generation of men per feminism. The Matriarchy wanted lots of immigration, they got it. That there are unpleasant side effects, too bad. But it isn’t for the men to worry about. Don’t worry, Bill. Feminism tells us good liberal feminist women are strong. Now come down off that White Horse and enjoy the decline. You can’t save women, it’s over. Besides, they’ve been so hateful as a gender and political force the past forty years they deserve no saving in any case.

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    Yep. In the quote from the Swedish feminist, she refers to the Muslim immigrants raping her sisterhood as her "children." Matriarchy indeed. Take in unlimited numbers of savage immigrants because they're like "our children." Open your loving arms to the whole world, they're our children!! This shows again that the reason women are good in the home is the same reason they are catastrophically bad in politics.
  39. @Jim Christian
    Why should the men do anything to stop the immigrants, the rapes or any of the fallout? The women wanted it, they enacted speech codes, they've raised a pussy generation of men per feminism. The Matriarchy wanted lots of immigration, they got it. That there are unpleasant side effects, too bad. But it isn't for the men to worry about. Don't worry, Bill. Feminism tells us good liberal feminist women are strong. Now come down off that White Horse and enjoy the decline. You can't save women, it's over. Besides, they've been so hateful as a gender and political force the past forty years they deserve no saving in any case.

    Yep. In the quote from the Swedish feminist, she refers to the Muslim immigrants raping her sisterhood as her “children.” Matriarchy indeed. Take in unlimited numbers of savage immigrants because they’re like “our children.” Open your loving arms to the whole world, they’re our children!! This shows again that the reason women are good in the home is the same reason they are catastrophically bad in politics.

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  40. @Svigor

    The American people are too fat and too simple-minded to get off their collective asses to revolt, sorry to say.
     
    True. And the ones who always pipe up with the "'Murrican gov't is inVINcible!" are the fattest and stupidest of them all.

    Well, I’d say the Blacks are certainly in a mood to revolt from time to time in many ways large and small. It’s a stretch to say folks wouldn’t ever revolt, but so far, they haven’t yet been given sufficient reason. True famine will bring revolt. What we have now? Not so much, except for the Blacks and their contentions, many instilled by a political system that benefits from their angst. The war protests and civil riots in the sixties certainly brought about policy changes, but we those revolts? When hundreds of thousands take to the streets, outside your Pentagon building, I’d say so, yes.

    One thing for sure, a bunch of militia guys (or even bands of Black for that matter) and their collection of weapons isn’t going to make a dent in a band of local, State and Federal civilian government entities armed with the very best killing gear the American taxpayer can buy. And that’s not to mention the United States military/National Guard. The mechanisms exist to put that sort of thing down right quick.

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    The mechanisms exist to put that sort of thing down right quick.
     
    You don't understand. The system exists as it does today because it enjoys widespread (if increasingly shaky) consent.

    By the metric people spout here, the USSR should still be sitting in Eastern Europe. Did not the Soviets have more than enough tanks to put down Perestroika? Couldn't the Red Army have simply waded in and put down anyone who wanted to end the Empire?

    Arming the agencies of the state is redundant and largely unnecessary. Consent is what staffs those agencies to begin with. How long would the US government last if every man and woman needed to staff its agencies couldn't go home, to a family gathering or a neighborhood barbecue without family, friends and neighbors spitting on them in disgust?

    Anyone who thinks the US government can continue to rule without interruption in the event that the credit bubble finally implodes, taking with it the ('til now) seemingly endless handouts to BLM's and Wall Streeters and the Saudi's, the Soros' and every other suckling piglet/parasite is a blind fool.

    50 years of compounded stupidity coming back out of the system will be a 20 on the Richter Scale and will shake seemingly solid-rock institutions to dust. We simply have no idea what will happen when the gravy train ends but it hits Americans' demand for order combined with Americans' (mostly Caucasians') can-do ingenuity.

    Know one thing. Even if the agencies of the state wish to act like white blood cells sent to destroy anyone who threatens to stop kowtowing to the Party Dogma, their power only works when they can concentrate on localized, rare problems. America is awash in guns, and remember that if 80-IQ Iraqis and 75-IQ Afghanis can produce shaped-charge "IED's" capable of destroying a modern tank, can you imagine what America's engineers can produce if they no longer consent to the current cult's continued rule?

    No. We're in an antebellum period. We have no idea what's coming, but it won't be a linear continuation of the last 50 years.
  41. @Svigor

    I read that when Jay Gould was asked what he would do if half the country rose up in revolt, he replied, “I’ll hire the other half to kill them.” The US government could shut down the various mini-riots we’ve seen recently with a few bursts from an M-60. None of these kids stealing TVs cares about anything, they just want loot and those in power want to use them to scare the middle class into obeying. We’ll be living in a full fledged police state long before the rabble moves away from their 60″ televisions.
     
    How many guerrilla wars has the American military won since, oh, the end of the 18th century? Wait, I'll put it another way: has the American military won even a single guerrilla war, since the end of the 18th century?

    Goat herders, paddy farmers, heh. Wait 'til they get a load of what engineers and chemists can do. Get ready for garage-built drones, Mr. Jackboot...

    As for your question about how many guerrilla wars the US has won, how many wars has the US lost? The elites in power today are pretty closely related to the elites of yesterday and they’re richer than their ancestors could ever have imagined when they boarded those wooden boats long ago.
    As for guerrilla wars won since the end of the 18th century, the list is endless:
    American Indians Wars – Apache, Comanche, Sioux, etc.
    Pancho Villa Expedition led by Black Jack Pershing
    US-Philippine War
    Various defeats of guerrillas in Central America throughout 19th and 20th century
    Guerrilla fighting against Japanese troops during WWII
    Defeat of the VC in South Vietnam – I know everyone wants to talk about how the North Vietnamese Army conquered South Vietnam a couple years after the US withdrew, but the fact is the VC were long finished as a guerrilla force by 1969.
    If you believe the Taliban or Al Qaeda are waging a successful guerrilla campaign against US forces since their defeat in the Afghan, we’ll have to disagree.

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    The commies won in Vietnam. Period. The guerrilla campaign was only part of the overall strategy but it effectively broke the US will to resist the NVA invasion in 1975.

    Regarding Afghanistan - we lost that war the minute we tried to nation build and any victory we achieved anyway was only temporary. The Taliban and their descendants will rule that dung hole again soon (as in "soon: in a historical context) and our waste of blood and treasure will once again be chronicled in history books.

    The Iraq loss/debacle was something of a guerrilla war and we lost that one. You can paint a pretty face on it and tell yourself that Saddam was such a bad guy and Murica, hell yeah and we killed him, and all that nonsense but in the overall picture we lost that stinking war and we only managed to pull out with some face saved because we bribed the Sunnis to quit fighting us.
    , @rod1963
    We lost Iraq and Afghanistan. $3 trillion dollars and 4000 dead for nothing. Not to mention a exhausted a broken down Army now riddled with PC/MC and lowered standards thanks to putting women into combat MOS's.

    We cut and ran out of Afghanistan. Our forces never controlled anything other than the territory they stood on for a moment. Same for Iraq.

    The Taliban is now back in control of large areas of Afghanistan as well.

    We achieved nothing. Islamic terrorism is now in the U.S. and despite a $60 billion dollar intelligence apparatus, the Feds have not stopped one terrorist attack yet. Even though many of the attackers were quite open about their intentions and terrorist affiliations.
  42. @Rich
    I read that when Jay Gould was asked what he would do if half the country rose up in revolt, he replied, "I'll hire the other half to kill them." The US government could shut down the various mini-riots we've seen recently with a few bursts from an M-60. None of these kids stealing TVs cares about anything, they just want loot and those in power want to use them to scare the middle class into obeying. We'll be living in a full fledged police state long before the rabble moves away from their 60" televisions.

    We’ll be living in a full fledged police state long before the rabble moves away from their 60″ televisions.

    The full-fledged police state is already well underway. Next step will be Hillary’s massive gun control. They’ve already done it in NY, California, Massachusetts, and Connecticut.

    California just passed a law banning all AR-15s, AKs, and magazines over 10 rounds. Ammo control, too — no ammo sales without government approval. They even made it illegal to bring more than 50 rounds in from out of state.

    When the SHTF the powers-that-be want to make absolutely sure that the street rabble have nothing but rocks to throw at the highly-paid mercenary cops, who will be in APCs, armed with M-4s, and wearing Kevlar and Level IV body armor.

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  43. In the 1960′s the monetary authorities divorced the dollar from any consistent yardstick (from silver in 1964 and gold in 1971) and inflation took off like mad.

    Inflation appeared to be “tamed” when long term bonds bottomed in 1980 and then began the period of “We can create wealth from nowhere just by borrowing money from nothing and issuing IOU’s (bonds) by the galaxy.”

    From the early ’80′s onward the appearance of inflation was muted because “new money” flowed into asset markets, not so much into consumer staples. People felt richer, so they bid up the prices of the stuff that made them feel richer. It was (and remains) a positive feedback loop.

    When things began to falter in the 1990′s it became necessary to redouble efforts hide the vast inflation of the credit bubble. What manufacturing still existed in the USA was shipped overseas and the process of importing even MORE competitors for jobs helped keep wages utterly stagnant.

    What to do now, when the “import job-seekers” and “export jobs” trends have reached predictable dimensions?

    “Mutually Assured Destruction” (if you rock our boat we will burn the entire economy down) only works if both sides have something to lose. Increasingly, the American People don’t have enough to lose. This is the message of the Trump Phenomenon. Sooner or later, the monetary madness that built the last 50 years will end.

    Then will the S.H.T.F. (as parasites from Wall Street to BLM and everything in between discover that in a restricted-resources environment, people’s tolerance for parasitism is likely to be zero.)

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  44. @Rich
    As for your question about how many guerrilla wars the US has won, how many wars has the US lost? The elites in power today are pretty closely related to the elites of yesterday and they're richer than their ancestors could ever have imagined when they boarded those wooden boats long ago.
    As for guerrilla wars won since the end of the 18th century, the list is endless:
    American Indians Wars - Apache, Comanche, Sioux, etc.
    Pancho Villa Expedition led by Black Jack Pershing
    US-Philippine War
    Various defeats of guerrillas in Central America throughout 19th and 20th century
    Guerrilla fighting against Japanese troops during WWII
    Defeat of the VC in South Vietnam - I know everyone wants to talk about how the North Vietnamese Army conquered South Vietnam a couple years after the US withdrew, but the fact is the VC were long finished as a guerrilla force by 1969.
    If you believe the Taliban or Al Qaeda are waging a successful guerrilla campaign against US forces since their defeat in the Afghan, we'll have to disagree.

    The commies won in Vietnam. Period. The guerrilla campaign was only part of the overall strategy but it effectively broke the US will to resist the NVA invasion in 1975.

    Regarding Afghanistan – we lost that war the minute we tried to nation build and any victory we achieved anyway was only temporary. The Taliban and their descendants will rule that dung hole again soon (as in “soon: in a historical context) and our waste of blood and treasure will once again be chronicled in history books.

    The Iraq loss/debacle was something of a guerrilla war and we lost that one. You can paint a pretty face on it and tell yourself that Saddam was such a bad guy and Murica, hell yeah and we killed him, and all that nonsense but in the overall picture we lost that stinking war and we only managed to pull out with some face saved because we bribed the Sunnis to quit fighting us.

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    • Replies: @Rich
    I really get tired of this nonsense, but there seems to be a leftist ideology that frantically needs to believe the US "lost" the Vietnam War. US combat troops were withdrawn in 1973. The Viet Cong were defeated after the TET Offensive in '68. The North Vietnamese Army conquered South Vietnam in 1975, two full years after the withdrawal of US Forces. How can the US have lost if they were no longer fighting? You want to argue that US policy in Southeast Asia suffered a defeat after the fall of Saigon, go ahead, that's absolutely not the same as saying the US lost. And saying that the overall strategy of the Commies "broke the US will to resist" is comical, the commies crawled to the negotiating table in 1973 begging the US for terms. Ho didn't win, the American left won the Vietnam War.
    As for the Afghan, I guess I missed the report that said the Taliban are back in power. Everything I've seen says they're still hiding under rocks, crawling out every once in a while to kill a donkey or a girl who learns to read.
    "We" lost in Iraq? By what standard? Their Army was destroyed, the country effectively cut in three, the Iraqi leadership dead. How in heaven's name is that a defeat? Oh, I get it, you don't like the current Iraqi government, that means the US lost the war. I don't like Merkel, I guess the Nazis won WWII.
    , @dc.sunsets

    The commies won in Vietnam. Period.
     
    I have seven words for you: Stock exchange in Ho Chi Minh City.

    If that's what a communist win turns out to look like, then one can be forgiven for assuming that fighting the commies just takes a little patience.
    , @Outwest
    Granted the U.S. may have been fighting as a reflex reaction. But what was lost was the battle not the war. The war was containment of the Soviet Union. Other than the Viet Cong being headed by a Soviet trained front man, we didn’t really care about Nam. Certainly not to put the French back in power.

    But after the stress on the area Viet Nam rekindled its historic dislike for China and China met with Nixon –all leading to the Soviet failure.

    Perhaps what the U.S. lost was its common sense regarding military action in locales with no strategic importance or use –like the Middle East.
  45. @Priss Factor
    People with ass tattoos don't make revolution.

    That's why the elites are safe.

    The masses may not be doing well, but the government provides them with free food and basic necessities. And Pop Culture is the religion of the masses, and they line up to get their ever-fattening asses tattooed. They have no sense of reality, morality, or truth. Even Conservatives are for 'trannies in military' and 'gay marriage'. Values are dead. There is no core conviction except "My want my free pizza, my videogame, and my ass tattoo."

    The idea of a revolution instigated by people with ass tattoos would be a first in history.

    Aint gonna happen.

    It's like the 60s. There was so much tumult, but it was really more about Rock n Roll and Pot than Marx and Che Guevara. All those Woodstock potheads were not gonna change the world. They were too stoned and dancing like tards to Santana. They sacrificed their souls to mammon. (Great musical performance by Santana though.)

    It’s like the 60s. There was so much tumult, but it was really more about Rock n Roll and Pot than Marx and Che Guevara. All those Woodstock potheads were not gonna change the world. They were too stoned and dancing like tards to Santana. They sacrificed their souls to mammon. (Great musical performance by Santana though.)

    No, it’s not like the 1960′s.

    Not One Bit.

    In the 1960′s Americans (overwhelmingly white) were coming off the euphoric rise in living standards that came from 1) being the only country standing after WW2 and 2) the release of massive pent-up demand that followed War Socialism and rationing.

    Americans were besotted with self-satisfaction, which fueled the manic embrace of “Guns and Butter for EVERYONE!” in the Civil Rights Act and Immigration Act of that period. America was like the useless offspring of a highly capable industrialist: no notion of from where prosperity came, and a self-destructive sense of entitlement combined with a leftist’s embrace that prosperity magically appears and is unlimited…so it should be handed to any and all.

    For 50 years the USA has pursued a “have our cake and eat it too” approach entirely funded by borrowing and the perception that borrowing actually creates wealth. This is the logical path of a fully fiat monetary regime.

    Allan borrows from Bill (Bill owns the bank, so what Bill loans out is not represented by prior production, it just is an accounting fiction.). Allan spends the loan proceeds to buy Carl’s junk, and Carl deposits the money in Bill’s bank. Bill makes money charging Allan interest on “wealth” that Bill created by pressing some keys on a keyboard. The systematic effect is that while the loan exists, all pre-existing money is debased by that amount, but when the loan is paid off the “moneyness” of the loan disappears.

    This went off track, however, in 1980 when the capital value of debt began to rise (as rates fell.) This meant that the more Allan borrowed and squandered, and the more Bill loaned out:
    1. The richer everyone who held the IOU’s felt.
    2. The more Carl’s could arise to satisfy all that excess “demand from nowhere.”
    3. The richer everyone felt, the more they bid up the prices of everything.

    So here we are, in 2016, on the shore of an OCEAN of bonds (IOU’s), with interest rates near zero, reflecting a level of complacency never recorded in history, with every week carrying another illustration that people are collectively INSANE and getting more so (WW-T, the normalizing of one insanity after another, and the elevation of people who can’t even feed themselves to the status of demigods to whom resources should flow unimpeded.)

    You think think this is like the 60′s?

    Oh, PLEASE hang around and be patient. Do not mistake the last 50 years of increasingly bizarre collectivism as an indication that this is either normal or sustainable.

    For 50 years people in the West have collectively discarded the wisdom of the past while embracing a Jonestown level of self-destruction at which an objective observer can only be left astonished.

    In the 1960′s people were at the early edge of embracing the notion that resources are unlimited. Today we’re surely experiencing the final, peak-level delusions of that folly, and when sentiment turns and people re-interpret the data that surround us, the term that will apply is “phase change.” What is today by all appearances liquid will be rock solid in no time.

    Resources are not unlimited.

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  46. @Jim Christian
    Well, I'd say the Blacks are certainly in a mood to revolt from time to time in many ways large and small. It's a stretch to say folks wouldn't ever revolt, but so far, they haven't yet been given sufficient reason. True famine will bring revolt. What we have now? Not so much, except for the Blacks and their contentions, many instilled by a political system that benefits from their angst. The war protests and civil riots in the sixties certainly brought about policy changes, but we those revolts? When hundreds of thousands take to the streets, outside your Pentagon building, I'd say so, yes.

    One thing for sure, a bunch of militia guys (or even bands of Black for that matter) and their collection of weapons isn't going to make a dent in a band of local, State and Federal civilian government entities armed with the very best killing gear the American taxpayer can buy. And that's not to mention the United States military/National Guard. The mechanisms exist to put that sort of thing down right quick.

    The mechanisms exist to put that sort of thing down right quick.

    You don’t understand. The system exists as it does today because it enjoys widespread (if increasingly shaky) consent.

    By the metric people spout here, the USSR should still be sitting in Eastern Europe. Did not the Soviets have more than enough tanks to put down Perestroika? Couldn’t the Red Army have simply waded in and put down anyone who wanted to end the Empire?

    Arming the agencies of the state is redundant and largely unnecessary. Consent is what staffs those agencies to begin with. How long would the US government last if every man and woman needed to staff its agencies couldn’t go home, to a family gathering or a neighborhood barbecue without family, friends and neighbors spitting on them in disgust?

    Anyone who thinks the US government can continue to rule without interruption in the event that the credit bubble finally implodes, taking with it the (’til now) seemingly endless handouts to BLM’s and Wall Streeters and the Saudi’s, the Soros’ and every other suckling piglet/parasite is a blind fool.

    50 years of compounded stupidity coming back out of the system will be a 20 on the Richter Scale and will shake seemingly solid-rock institutions to dust. We simply have no idea what will happen when the gravy train ends but it hits Americans’ demand for order combined with Americans’ (mostly Caucasians’) can-do ingenuity.

    Know one thing. Even if the agencies of the state wish to act like white blood cells sent to destroy anyone who threatens to stop kowtowing to the Party Dogma, their power only works when they can concentrate on localized, rare problems. America is awash in guns, and remember that if 80-IQ Iraqis and 75-IQ Afghanis can produce shaped-charge “IED’s” capable of destroying a modern tank, can you imagine what America’s engineers can produce if they no longer consent to the current cult’s continued rule?

    No. We’re in an antebellum period. We have no idea what’s coming, but it won’t be a linear continuation of the last 50 years.

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    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    PS: The US government may well continue post Bubble. Its animating ideology will be completely different, if this is the case. The current system exists only via bribery of every facet of America society. Once Uncle Sam has to actually extract its redistributions directly and openly, bribing everyone while taxing no one will end on a dime due to simple arithmetic.
    , @rod1963

    Consent is what staffs those agencies to begin with. How long would the US government last if every man and woman needed to staff its agencies couldn’t go home, to a family gathering or a neighborhood barbecue without family, friends and neighbors spitting on them in disgust?
     
    The quislings can only hope that spitting is as far as the others go.

    Consent is the key.

    Without consent the police cannot do their job for fear of dying in a hail of bullets from irate citizens. As it is they can barely contain a bunch of thugs whose hobby it is to shoot one another dead over turf.

    Without consent making that commute to the Pentagon, Langley or any military base will become a life or death wager. Station guards along the route to protect the workers? Who will protect the guards when they suddenly get shot dead or disappear on their way home.

    Consider this. Every military base is like a city, it needs fuel, food, natural gas, water and electricity to function, most of which comes in from the outside. Without community support and consent for the people who keep such systems working, those bases would rapidly become a ghost town.

    Know one thing. Even if the agencies of the state wish to act like white blood cells sent to destroy anyone who threatens to stop kowtowing to the Party Dogma, their power only works when they can concentrate on localized, rare problems

     

    Quite true, this is their weakness. They can handle one Dorner or a Ruby Ridge. A couple dozen Dorners, not at all. I remember how the Beltway sniper terrified the D.C. crowd. Those cowards pulled in all sorts of military assets to try and track those two thugs down.

    I have no doubt that if things go pear shaped the D.C. crowd will retask most assets to protect them leaving most of their human stooges helpless.

    America is awash in guns, and remember that if 80-IQ Iraqis and 75-IQ Afghanis can produce shaped-charge “IED’s” capable of destroying a modern tank, can you imagine what America’s engineers can produce if they no longer consent to the current cult’s continued rule?

     

    Indeed and imagine what will happen when they start targeting portions of the system that maintain the elites control.
  47. Secession is what it will take.

    It all hits the fan when secession becomes a distinct & real possibility.

    The elite’s resistance to it will merely harden the secessionists.

    It is the only solution to the heretofore unsolvable problem.

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    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    The center will not hold, not when it loses its ability to dispense unlimited emoluments. This is why the credit bubble is being defended to the last cartridge. When confidence in the value of the Bond Ocean begins to evaporate, the game of chicken will end with a bang.

    The real question to me is, will the entire USA become a bit like the war in Sarajevo? If the roads and rails become too dangerous to travel due to sniper fire and robbery-at-checkpoints, the fictional zombie apocalypse genre might be art foreshadowing life.

    People desire order. People organize to produce it quite naturally. I imagine that on a local level, the forces of order will muster and anyone who threatens that order will be shot on sight. This would have the predictable result of urban wastelands being ringed like the movie "Escape From New York" only the denouement would be to see such places basically depopulated by bad water, disease and inter-gang warfare.

    So many developments today look like the social equivalent of a blow-off top in a commodity market, the kind that occurs right before a neck-snapping reversal and collapse. I wonder how long will be people's memories for the individuals who most pushed these last apogees of insanity?
    , @helena
    It'll have to be now if it is to be any use at all. Ultimately it should be a legal procedure - need lots of good lawyers. The other possibility is applying for UN heritage site status, or something. Someone needs to do some research to find a way. There are aspects of Americana culture that are globally recognised. Get patents, brands, something to save yourselves and your heritage - peacefully! Websites, crowd funding. I'm running out of ideas.
  48. @Cato
    Jobs are the most effective form of social control. If our elites are making a mistake, it is in lavishing entitlements on people who are not subject to the discipline of work. As we see in Baltimore, Milwaukee, etc: it is the leisured lower class that riots.

    “…it is the leisured lower class that riots.”
    True. The US government has abrogated its responsibility for supporting a healthy economy in the US, which should have been invigorated with mega infrastructure projects, like developing the ecologically safe mass transit, and innovation projects, like investing in renewals sources of energy, as well as maintaining protectionism. Instead the US government became a tool and cash caw for war profiteers, banksters, and mega-corporations (Oilmen, Monsanto & BigPharma).
    As for intellectual mediocrities of any ethnicity and class, they need good trade schools.

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  49. @helena
    "And these fuckers used to be vikings?"

    Well, no, because their ancestors didn't go a-viking.

    At least the neo Nazi rooted Sweden Democrats is polling high…

    http://avpixlat.info/2016/08/19/yougov-augusti-5/#more-185513

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Don't die stupid.

    There are the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there are the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

  50. @Wally
    Secession is what it will take.

    It all hits the fan when secession becomes a distinct & real possibility.

    The elite's resistance to it will merely harden the secessionists.

    It is the only solution to the heretofore unsolvable problem.

    The center will not hold, not when it loses its ability to dispense unlimited emoluments. This is why the credit bubble is being defended to the last cartridge. When confidence in the value of the Bond Ocean begins to evaporate, the game of chicken will end with a bang.

    The real question to me is, will the entire USA become a bit like the war in Sarajevo? If the roads and rails become too dangerous to travel due to sniper fire and robbery-at-checkpoints, the fictional zombie apocalypse genre might be art foreshadowing life.

    People desire order. People organize to produce it quite naturally. I imagine that on a local level, the forces of order will muster and anyone who threatens that order will be shot on sight. This would have the predictable result of urban wastelands being ringed like the movie “Escape From New York” only the denouement would be to see such places basically depopulated by bad water, disease and inter-gang warfare.

    So many developments today look like the social equivalent of a blow-off top in a commodity market, the kind that occurs right before a neck-snapping reversal and collapse. I wonder how long will be people’s memories for the individuals who most pushed these last apogees of insanity?

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  51. @WJ
    The commies won in Vietnam. Period. The guerrilla campaign was only part of the overall strategy but it effectively broke the US will to resist the NVA invasion in 1975.

    Regarding Afghanistan - we lost that war the minute we tried to nation build and any victory we achieved anyway was only temporary. The Taliban and their descendants will rule that dung hole again soon (as in "soon: in a historical context) and our waste of blood and treasure will once again be chronicled in history books.

    The Iraq loss/debacle was something of a guerrilla war and we lost that one. You can paint a pretty face on it and tell yourself that Saddam was such a bad guy and Murica, hell yeah and we killed him, and all that nonsense but in the overall picture we lost that stinking war and we only managed to pull out with some face saved because we bribed the Sunnis to quit fighting us.

    I really get tired of this nonsense, but there seems to be a leftist ideology that frantically needs to believe the US “lost” the Vietnam War. US combat troops were withdrawn in 1973. The Viet Cong were defeated after the TET Offensive in ’68. The North Vietnamese Army conquered South Vietnam in 1975, two full years after the withdrawal of US Forces. How can the US have lost if they were no longer fighting? You want to argue that US policy in Southeast Asia suffered a defeat after the fall of Saigon, go ahead, that’s absolutely not the same as saying the US lost. And saying that the overall strategy of the Commies “broke the US will to resist” is comical, the commies crawled to the negotiating table in 1973 begging the US for terms. Ho didn’t win, the American left won the Vietnam War.
    As for the Afghan, I guess I missed the report that said the Taliban are back in power. Everything I’ve seen says they’re still hiding under rocks, crawling out every once in a while to kill a donkey or a girl who learns to read.
    “We” lost in Iraq? By what standard? Their Army was destroyed, the country effectively cut in three, the Iraqi leadership dead. How in heaven’s name is that a defeat? Oh, I get it, you don’t like the current Iraqi government, that means the US lost the war. I don’t like Merkel, I guess the Nazis won WWII.

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    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    If the Soviets won in Vietnam, why is there a stock exchange in Hanoi?

    And the entity that won WW2 was determined at Potsdam. If being awarded the lands and peoples of Eastern Europe didn't constitute "the win," I don't know what would.

  52. PARIS 1961 ……

    In January 2015, the entire Zionist-controlled world cried over the killings of four French Jews as result of a false flag operation at the Charlie Hebdo and the Kosher Market in Paris. But these crying Islamophobes don’t even know that French police and army killed over 400 Algerian-French Muslim citizens in Paris and arrested another 10,000 on October 17, 1961. They’re among the 30,000 Algerians demonstrating in Paris against the curfew imposed on 200,000-strong Algerian French community by the French colonial regime during Algerians bid to liberate themselves from French Judeo-Christian occupation of their homeland.

    On October 5, 1961, French cabinet minister, Maurice Papon (died 2007), put in place a curfew covering all “French Muslims from Algeria”. Papon was convicted for 10 years in jail in 1998 for collaborating with Nazis in the so-called “deportation” of 1560 French Jews from Bourdeaux region during WW II and not for his crimes against French Muslims…..

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/03/07/remembering-1961-muslim-massacre-in-paris/

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  53. @Rich
    I really get tired of this nonsense, but there seems to be a leftist ideology that frantically needs to believe the US "lost" the Vietnam War. US combat troops were withdrawn in 1973. The Viet Cong were defeated after the TET Offensive in '68. The North Vietnamese Army conquered South Vietnam in 1975, two full years after the withdrawal of US Forces. How can the US have lost if they were no longer fighting? You want to argue that US policy in Southeast Asia suffered a defeat after the fall of Saigon, go ahead, that's absolutely not the same as saying the US lost. And saying that the overall strategy of the Commies "broke the US will to resist" is comical, the commies crawled to the negotiating table in 1973 begging the US for terms. Ho didn't win, the American left won the Vietnam War.
    As for the Afghan, I guess I missed the report that said the Taliban are back in power. Everything I've seen says they're still hiding under rocks, crawling out every once in a while to kill a donkey or a girl who learns to read.
    "We" lost in Iraq? By what standard? Their Army was destroyed, the country effectively cut in three, the Iraqi leadership dead. How in heaven's name is that a defeat? Oh, I get it, you don't like the current Iraqi government, that means the US lost the war. I don't like Merkel, I guess the Nazis won WWII.

    If the Soviets won in Vietnam, why is there a stock exchange in Hanoi?

    And the entity that won WW2 was determined at Potsdam. If being awarded the lands and peoples of Eastern Europe didn’t constitute “the win,” I don’t know what would.

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    Indeed, the 'Allies" were so 'victorious' in WWII that the Communists ended up controlling half of Europe.

    We fought the wrong guys in making "that shitty little country".

  54. @dc.sunsets

    The mechanisms exist to put that sort of thing down right quick.
     
    You don't understand. The system exists as it does today because it enjoys widespread (if increasingly shaky) consent.

    By the metric people spout here, the USSR should still be sitting in Eastern Europe. Did not the Soviets have more than enough tanks to put down Perestroika? Couldn't the Red Army have simply waded in and put down anyone who wanted to end the Empire?

    Arming the agencies of the state is redundant and largely unnecessary. Consent is what staffs those agencies to begin with. How long would the US government last if every man and woman needed to staff its agencies couldn't go home, to a family gathering or a neighborhood barbecue without family, friends and neighbors spitting on them in disgust?

    Anyone who thinks the US government can continue to rule without interruption in the event that the credit bubble finally implodes, taking with it the ('til now) seemingly endless handouts to BLM's and Wall Streeters and the Saudi's, the Soros' and every other suckling piglet/parasite is a blind fool.

    50 years of compounded stupidity coming back out of the system will be a 20 on the Richter Scale and will shake seemingly solid-rock institutions to dust. We simply have no idea what will happen when the gravy train ends but it hits Americans' demand for order combined with Americans' (mostly Caucasians') can-do ingenuity.

    Know one thing. Even if the agencies of the state wish to act like white blood cells sent to destroy anyone who threatens to stop kowtowing to the Party Dogma, their power only works when they can concentrate on localized, rare problems. America is awash in guns, and remember that if 80-IQ Iraqis and 75-IQ Afghanis can produce shaped-charge "IED's" capable of destroying a modern tank, can you imagine what America's engineers can produce if they no longer consent to the current cult's continued rule?

    No. We're in an antebellum period. We have no idea what's coming, but it won't be a linear continuation of the last 50 years.

    PS: The US government may well continue post Bubble. Its animating ideology will be completely different, if this is the case. The current system exists only via bribery of every facet of America society. Once Uncle Sam has to actually extract its redistributions directly and openly, bribing everyone while taxing no one will end on a dime due to simple arithmetic.

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  55. @WJ
    The commies won in Vietnam. Period. The guerrilla campaign was only part of the overall strategy but it effectively broke the US will to resist the NVA invasion in 1975.

    Regarding Afghanistan - we lost that war the minute we tried to nation build and any victory we achieved anyway was only temporary. The Taliban and their descendants will rule that dung hole again soon (as in "soon: in a historical context) and our waste of blood and treasure will once again be chronicled in history books.

    The Iraq loss/debacle was something of a guerrilla war and we lost that one. You can paint a pretty face on it and tell yourself that Saddam was such a bad guy and Murica, hell yeah and we killed him, and all that nonsense but in the overall picture we lost that stinking war and we only managed to pull out with some face saved because we bribed the Sunnis to quit fighting us.

    The commies won in Vietnam. Period.

    I have seven words for you: Stock exchange in Ho Chi Minh City.

    If that’s what a communist win turns out to look like, then one can be forgiven for assuming that fighting the commies just takes a little patience.

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  56. A short walk from the Capitol in Washington, whole housing developments lie empty

    Where is this actually the case these days? All locations that are a ‘short walk’ from the Capitol building are gentrified and/or fully redeveloped, as far as I am aware. Also true for a long walk. You have to basically get past the old stadium or way past Galludet to find ghetto of any sort, and I don’t think there are whole empty housing developments except across the Anacostia or in PG county somewhere.

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  57. @Wally
    Secession is what it will take.

    It all hits the fan when secession becomes a distinct & real possibility.

    The elite's resistance to it will merely harden the secessionists.

    It is the only solution to the heretofore unsolvable problem.

    It’ll have to be now if it is to be any use at all. Ultimately it should be a legal procedure – need lots of good lawyers. The other possibility is applying for UN heritage site status, or something. Someone needs to do some research to find a way. There are aspects of Americana culture that are globally recognised. Get patents, brands, something to save yourselves and your heritage – peacefully! Websites, crowd funding. I’m running out of ideas.

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  58. @WJ
    The commies won in Vietnam. Period. The guerrilla campaign was only part of the overall strategy but it effectively broke the US will to resist the NVA invasion in 1975.

    Regarding Afghanistan - we lost that war the minute we tried to nation build and any victory we achieved anyway was only temporary. The Taliban and their descendants will rule that dung hole again soon (as in "soon: in a historical context) and our waste of blood and treasure will once again be chronicled in history books.

    The Iraq loss/debacle was something of a guerrilla war and we lost that one. You can paint a pretty face on it and tell yourself that Saddam was such a bad guy and Murica, hell yeah and we killed him, and all that nonsense but in the overall picture we lost that stinking war and we only managed to pull out with some face saved because we bribed the Sunnis to quit fighting us.

    Granted the U.S. may have been fighting as a reflex reaction. But what was lost was the battle not the war. The war was containment of the Soviet Union. Other than the Viet Cong being headed by a Soviet trained front man, we didn’t really care about Nam. Certainly not to put the French back in power.

    But after the stress on the area Viet Nam rekindled its historic dislike for China and China met with Nixon –all leading to the Soviet failure.

    Perhaps what the U.S. lost was its common sense regarding military action in locales with no strategic importance or use –like the Middle East.

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  59. @Rich
    As for your question about how many guerrilla wars the US has won, how many wars has the US lost? The elites in power today are pretty closely related to the elites of yesterday and they're richer than their ancestors could ever have imagined when they boarded those wooden boats long ago.
    As for guerrilla wars won since the end of the 18th century, the list is endless:
    American Indians Wars - Apache, Comanche, Sioux, etc.
    Pancho Villa Expedition led by Black Jack Pershing
    US-Philippine War
    Various defeats of guerrillas in Central America throughout 19th and 20th century
    Guerrilla fighting against Japanese troops during WWII
    Defeat of the VC in South Vietnam - I know everyone wants to talk about how the North Vietnamese Army conquered South Vietnam a couple years after the US withdrew, but the fact is the VC were long finished as a guerrilla force by 1969.
    If you believe the Taliban or Al Qaeda are waging a successful guerrilla campaign against US forces since their defeat in the Afghan, we'll have to disagree.

    We lost Iraq and Afghanistan. $3 trillion dollars and 4000 dead for nothing. Not to mention a exhausted a broken down Army now riddled with PC/MC and lowered standards thanks to putting women into combat MOS’s.

    We cut and ran out of Afghanistan. Our forces never controlled anything other than the territory they stood on for a moment. Same for Iraq.

    The Taliban is now back in control of large areas of Afghanistan as well.

    We achieved nothing. Islamic terrorism is now in the U.S. and despite a $60 billion dollar intelligence apparatus, the Feds have not stopped one terrorist attack yet. Even though many of the attackers were quite open about their intentions and terrorist affiliations.

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    • Replies: @Rich
    Guess it depends on your definition of "lost." In Afghan, the Taliban were routed and are hiding under rocks. In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors and is divided into three separate zones, Kurdish, Shia, and Sunni.
    It may be that you're one of those naive dreamers who thought the US really expected to build functioning Western style democracies. If that's what you were looking for, you're right. I am, of course, referring to the military victory.
    Questions about whether the war should have been fought and if it was worth the cost in lives and fortune, are legitimate and I was against both invasions from the beginning.
  60. @galileounderground
    At least the neo Nazi rooted Sweden Democrats is polling high...

    http://avpixlat.info/2016/08/19/yougov-augusti-5/#more-185513

    Don’t die stupid.

    There are the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there are the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    http://www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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  61. @dc.sunsets
    If the Soviets won in Vietnam, why is there a stock exchange in Hanoi?

    And the entity that won WW2 was determined at Potsdam. If being awarded the lands and peoples of Eastern Europe didn't constitute "the win," I don't know what would.

    Indeed, the ‘Allies” were so ‘victorious’ in WWII that the Communists ended up controlling half of Europe.

    We fought the wrong guys in making “that shitty little country”.

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    Makes you wonder about the old conspiracy theory that the whole Final Solution thing was a way for Rothshild to use intermarrying (and useless to him) Jews as canon fodder in a plan to obtain Zion.

    It's impossible to know the truth, but interesting conjecture.
  62. The people alone are no danger at all. Its typically if an Oligarch decides to make a move and ally themselves with the masses. Then it can become an existential threat. Have we not seen this today with Trump?

    The counter attack is to set up a Praetorian Guard. However in a democracy it cannot take on the same form, but in principle. The natural ally of the elite are the poor. They are easily manipulated, and tend to hate the class above them.

    Never seen leaderless mobs amount to much . How it work for Boudica?

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    • Replies: @utu
    I think you got it right. Every successful revolution came form the top. The revolts from the bottom always fail. Successful revolution needs financing which comes from outside. This is true for English and French and Bolshevik revolutions. If I were an oligarch or a neocon I would not worry. I would worry more being Fred living in Mexico. To organize a bloody revolt in Mexico is nothing for American oligarchs. They did it many times before.
  63. The natural ally of the elite are the poor. They are easily manipulated, and tend to hate the class above them.

    Did you just define BLM?

    The problem remains; the “class above them” is who keeps the electricity in the wires, the food in the stores, the TV’s running, the Obamaphones running, etc., etc.

    The ignorant underclass runs the risk of trying to pull a Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge. I think that far too many middle class men have already embraced the “middle class white guy’s Barbie Doll” (the AR15) for that to work.

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  64. @Wally
    Indeed, the 'Allies" were so 'victorious' in WWII that the Communists ended up controlling half of Europe.

    We fought the wrong guys in making "that shitty little country".

    Makes you wonder about the old conspiracy theory that the whole Final Solution thing was a way for Rothshild to use intermarrying (and useless to him) Jews as canon fodder in a plan to obtain Zion.

    It’s impossible to know the truth, but interesting conjecture.

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  65. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Donald Trump wants to give Bill Gates….Donald Trump…..Mark Zuckerberg….Jeff Bezos….a massive tax break.

    Donald Trump wants to keep flooding America with Asian Legal Immigrant scab labor=Democratic Party Voting Bloc.

    The Alt Right worships land owning Oligarchs….Donald Trump….Pinochet….General Franco.

    This is an alternative to this….and it is an experiment that has already been performed in US labor history.

    F the Alt Right!!!

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  66. @dc.sunsets

    The mechanisms exist to put that sort of thing down right quick.
     
    You don't understand. The system exists as it does today because it enjoys widespread (if increasingly shaky) consent.

    By the metric people spout here, the USSR should still be sitting in Eastern Europe. Did not the Soviets have more than enough tanks to put down Perestroika? Couldn't the Red Army have simply waded in and put down anyone who wanted to end the Empire?

    Arming the agencies of the state is redundant and largely unnecessary. Consent is what staffs those agencies to begin with. How long would the US government last if every man and woman needed to staff its agencies couldn't go home, to a family gathering or a neighborhood barbecue without family, friends and neighbors spitting on them in disgust?

    Anyone who thinks the US government can continue to rule without interruption in the event that the credit bubble finally implodes, taking with it the ('til now) seemingly endless handouts to BLM's and Wall Streeters and the Saudi's, the Soros' and every other suckling piglet/parasite is a blind fool.

    50 years of compounded stupidity coming back out of the system will be a 20 on the Richter Scale and will shake seemingly solid-rock institutions to dust. We simply have no idea what will happen when the gravy train ends but it hits Americans' demand for order combined with Americans' (mostly Caucasians') can-do ingenuity.

    Know one thing. Even if the agencies of the state wish to act like white blood cells sent to destroy anyone who threatens to stop kowtowing to the Party Dogma, their power only works when they can concentrate on localized, rare problems. America is awash in guns, and remember that if 80-IQ Iraqis and 75-IQ Afghanis can produce shaped-charge "IED's" capable of destroying a modern tank, can you imagine what America's engineers can produce if they no longer consent to the current cult's continued rule?

    No. We're in an antebellum period. We have no idea what's coming, but it won't be a linear continuation of the last 50 years.

    Consent is what staffs those agencies to begin with. How long would the US government last if every man and woman needed to staff its agencies couldn’t go home, to a family gathering or a neighborhood barbecue without family, friends and neighbors spitting on them in disgust?

    The quislings can only hope that spitting is as far as the others go.

    Consent is the key.

    Without consent the police cannot do their job for fear of dying in a hail of bullets from irate citizens. As it is they can barely contain a bunch of thugs whose hobby it is to shoot one another dead over turf.

    Without consent making that commute to the Pentagon, Langley or any military base will become a life or death wager. Station guards along the route to protect the workers? Who will protect the guards when they suddenly get shot dead or disappear on their way home.

    Consider this. Every military base is like a city, it needs fuel, food, natural gas, water and electricity to function, most of which comes in from the outside. Without community support and consent for the people who keep such systems working, those bases would rapidly become a ghost town.

    Know one thing. Even if the agencies of the state wish to act like white blood cells sent to destroy anyone who threatens to stop kowtowing to the Party Dogma, their power only works when they can concentrate on localized, rare problems

    Quite true, this is their weakness. They can handle one Dorner or a Ruby Ridge. A couple dozen Dorners, not at all. I remember how the Beltway sniper terrified the D.C. crowd. Those cowards pulled in all sorts of military assets to try and track those two thugs down.

    I have no doubt that if things go pear shaped the D.C. crowd will retask most assets to protect them leaving most of their human stooges helpless.

    America is awash in guns, and remember that if 80-IQ Iraqis and 75-IQ Afghanis can produce shaped-charge “IED’s” capable of destroying a modern tank, can you imagine what America’s engineers can produce if they no longer consent to the current cult’s continued rule?

    Indeed and imagine what will happen when they start targeting portions of the system that maintain the elites control.

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  67. @gwynedd1
    The people alone are no danger at all. Its typically if an Oligarch decides to make a move and ally themselves with the masses. Then it can become an existential threat. Have we not seen this today with Trump?

    The counter attack is to set up a Praetorian Guard. However in a democracy it cannot take on the same form, but in principle. The natural ally of the elite are the poor. They are easily manipulated, and tend to hate the class above them.

    Never seen leaderless mobs amount to much . How it work for Boudica?

    I think you got it right. Every successful revolution came form the top. The revolts from the bottom always fail. Successful revolution needs financing which comes from outside. This is true for English and French and Bolshevik revolutions. If I were an oligarch or a neocon I would not worry. I would worry more being Fred living in Mexico. To organize a bloody revolt in Mexico is nothing for American oligarchs. They did it many times before.

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    Utu

    That's not quite right. Your using the term "revolution" in a vague way. The Labor movement in the US...late 19th century-1930s...made America Great!!!! by keeping it 90 percent White. Moreover, these grassroots labor revolts gave us such wonderfull things such as The Chinese Exclusion Act and The Sihk Exclusion Act.

    The Sandinista Revolution in Nicaraqua in 1979 was very much a grassroots Revolution. But I suppose the Alt Right preferred the butcher Somoza...his type made Miami foreign...massively corrupt...and Spanish speaking...most definitely my kind.

    The French Revolution a grassroots revolt by the French Working Class that was attacked by Counterevolutionary violence from abroad(English Monarchy attempting to save the French Monarchy).


    The Alt Right supports anti-labor-top down murder of Native grassroots Labor Revolts. The Alt Right lusts for Monarchy.

    I have violent hatred of the Alt Right.


    The US Labor Movement of the late 19th Century-early 20th century was racially xenophobic and economically progressive-populist...this should be the framework to wage the revolt against White Liberal Greedy Cheating MEGA-CEO CLASS.

    The Alt Right wants to wage the revolt against the evil-doers by quoting Rushton-Lynn and hoping to revive the corpses of Pinochet and Franco.


    Attack the Alt Right from a hardcore racially xenophobic-economically populist framework that rejects Richard Spencer's enthusiasm for legal homo-pedophile filth marriage.


    What I am advocating is racial xenophobia+Anarcho-Syndicalism+hardcore racial tribalism=late 19th century US Labor Movement-early 20th century labor movement. This is where we start.....
    , @Incitatus
    “revolts from the bottom always fail. Successful revolution needs financing which comes from outside. This is true for English and French and Bolshevik revolutions.”

    What outside money, pray tell, fueled the French Revolution?
  68. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountian"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @utu
    I think you got it right. Every successful revolution came form the top. The revolts from the bottom always fail. Successful revolution needs financing which comes from outside. This is true for English and French and Bolshevik revolutions. If I were an oligarch or a neocon I would not worry. I would worry more being Fred living in Mexico. To organize a bloody revolt in Mexico is nothing for American oligarchs. They did it many times before.

    Utu

    That’s not quite right. Your using the term “revolution” in a vague way. The Labor movement in the US…late 19th century-1930s…made America Great!!!! by keeping it 90 percent White. Moreover, these grassroots labor revolts gave us such wonderfull things such as The Chinese Exclusion Act and The Sihk Exclusion Act.

    The Sandinista Revolution in Nicaraqua in 1979 was very much a grassroots Revolution. But I suppose the Alt Right preferred the butcher Somoza…his type made Miami foreign…massively corrupt…and Spanish speaking…most definitely my kind.

    The French Revolution a grassroots revolt by the French Working Class that was attacked by Counterevolutionary violence from abroad(English Monarchy attempting to save the French Monarchy).

    The Alt Right supports anti-labor-top down murder of Native grassroots Labor Revolts. The Alt Right lusts for Monarchy.

    I have violent hatred of the Alt Right.

    The US Labor Movement of the late 19th Century-early 20th century was racially xenophobic and economically progressive-populist…this should be the framework to wage the revolt against White Liberal Greedy Cheating MEGA-CEO CLASS.

    The Alt Right wants to wage the revolt against the evil-doers by quoting Rushton-Lynn and hoping to revive the corpses of Pinochet and Franco.

    Attack the Alt Right from a hardcore racially xenophobic-economically populist framework that rejects Richard Spencer’s enthusiasm for legal homo-pedophile filth marriage.

    What I am advocating is racial xenophobia+Anarcho-Syndicalism+hardcore racial tribalism=late 19th century US Labor Movement-early 20th century labor movement. This is where we start…..

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    "I have violent hatred of the..." - I know. You are very hateful. Usually I do not read your comments. This one I read because you directed it to me.
  69. @War for Blair Mountain
    Utu

    That's not quite right. Your using the term "revolution" in a vague way. The Labor movement in the US...late 19th century-1930s...made America Great!!!! by keeping it 90 percent White. Moreover, these grassroots labor revolts gave us such wonderfull things such as The Chinese Exclusion Act and The Sihk Exclusion Act.

    The Sandinista Revolution in Nicaraqua in 1979 was very much a grassroots Revolution. But I suppose the Alt Right preferred the butcher Somoza...his type made Miami foreign...massively corrupt...and Spanish speaking...most definitely my kind.

    The French Revolution a grassroots revolt by the French Working Class that was attacked by Counterevolutionary violence from abroad(English Monarchy attempting to save the French Monarchy).


    The Alt Right supports anti-labor-top down murder of Native grassroots Labor Revolts. The Alt Right lusts for Monarchy.

    I have violent hatred of the Alt Right.


    The US Labor Movement of the late 19th Century-early 20th century was racially xenophobic and economically progressive-populist...this should be the framework to wage the revolt against White Liberal Greedy Cheating MEGA-CEO CLASS.

    The Alt Right wants to wage the revolt against the evil-doers by quoting Rushton-Lynn and hoping to revive the corpses of Pinochet and Franco.


    Attack the Alt Right from a hardcore racially xenophobic-economically populist framework that rejects Richard Spencer's enthusiasm for legal homo-pedophile filth marriage.


    What I am advocating is racial xenophobia+Anarcho-Syndicalism+hardcore racial tribalism=late 19th century US Labor Movement-early 20th century labor movement. This is where we start.....

    “I have violent hatred of the…” – I know. You are very hateful. Usually I do not read your comments. This one I read because you directed it to me.

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  70. @Jim
    France in the period just before the French Revolution experienced high inflation which was a great hardship for the urban working class whose wages lagged behind the cost of food. However the urban working class was less than 10% of the population of France at that time. The vast majority of the population then did consist of peasants. However the peasants in France actually were benefiting from the inflation as the price of the food they produced was rising more than their expenses.

    Economic disaffection among the peasants was thus NOT one of the causes of the French Revolution.

    “Economic disaffection among the peasants was thus NOT one of the causes of the French Revolution.”

    Not even a little bit?

    The Anciene Régime comprised three estates: clergy (.0.04% population), nobility (1.57% population), and commoners (bourgeoisie + peasants: 98.39% population). The first two estates owned most of the land and had a monopoly on privilege and position. Only the third estate paid taxes. The bourgeoisie had some exemption options. In the end, peasants got royally screwed. And they knew it.

    Taxes (the gabelle, lods et ventes, taille, cens et rentes, parish dues) held the peasant as firmly as a straightjacket. He was the engine enabling the whole rotten mess. The clergy, nobility, and bourgeoisie didn’t rebel – they had something to lose.

    What will happen when American peasants discover Donald has never paid income tax? When they realize Hilary has a tax-exempt foundation that’s a slush fund for family sinecure and expense?

    They came close with Mitt. A 13.9% tax rate on $21,600,000 income? The same rate as a $35,000/yr AGI wage earner? After all, Mitt made $59,000/day -every day – in 2010. Can the wage earner take a $70,000+ deduction (therapy) for his wife’s horse?

    The only genuine thing Mitt said during the campaign was captured at a $50,000/plate Florida fundraiser (itself a prime example of decadence). His emotional lament on the 47% that didn’t pay tax wasn’t regret at not being able to attract their vote. It was envy. How could they figure out how to evade all taxes, one of his lifetime goals? Donald, to give him credit, is honest about it. But no less conflicted.

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  71. @utu
    I think you got it right. Every successful revolution came form the top. The revolts from the bottom always fail. Successful revolution needs financing which comes from outside. This is true for English and French and Bolshevik revolutions. If I were an oligarch or a neocon I would not worry. I would worry more being Fred living in Mexico. To organize a bloody revolt in Mexico is nothing for American oligarchs. They did it many times before.

    “revolts from the bottom always fail. Successful revolution needs financing which comes from outside. This is true for English and French and Bolshevik revolutions.”

    What outside money, pray tell, fueled the French Revolution?

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    "What outside money, pray tell, fueled the French Revolution?" - Masons, British bankers.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    Incitatus


    What fueled the Revolution was the rage of The Female Working Class Fish Mongerers whose children were starving. These were the very same women who stormed the Bastille and enthusiastically ripped the guts out of King Louis' entourage"I want the intestine!!!!!!!!!!"...."I want the f.....g kidney"...


    Oligarch Donald Trump supports importing Hindu Legal Immigrant computer programmers and engineers=Democratic Party Voting Bloc.


    Let Hillary Clinton destroy America...then we can have a race revolt....


    I have violent hatred of the Alt Right....I don't want Emperor Trump lording over me you f.......g girly boys.
  72. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    In November 2015, a Hindu Legal Immigrant who did computer work for the Trump campaign went back to India.

    Trump was very upset by this and told Steve Bannon that America needs to import Hindu Legal Immigrants like this.

    Another reason not to vote for the orange helmut head Land Owning Oligarch.

    F the Alt Right!!! Let Hillary Clinton wreck the US. It would mean that the White Male Jock Sniffers would have to pile-out of NFL football stadiums and hunt rats and rabbits to feed their families…for starters. And why exactly would this be bad?

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  73. @Incitatus
    “revolts from the bottom always fail. Successful revolution needs financing which comes from outside. This is true for English and French and Bolshevik revolutions.”

    What outside money, pray tell, fueled the French Revolution?

    “What outside money, pray tell, fueled the French Revolution?” – Masons, British bankers.

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  74. @rod1963
    We lost Iraq and Afghanistan. $3 trillion dollars and 4000 dead for nothing. Not to mention a exhausted a broken down Army now riddled with PC/MC and lowered standards thanks to putting women into combat MOS's.

    We cut and ran out of Afghanistan. Our forces never controlled anything other than the territory they stood on for a moment. Same for Iraq.

    The Taliban is now back in control of large areas of Afghanistan as well.

    We achieved nothing. Islamic terrorism is now in the U.S. and despite a $60 billion dollar intelligence apparatus, the Feds have not stopped one terrorist attack yet. Even though many of the attackers were quite open about their intentions and terrorist affiliations.

    Guess it depends on your definition of “lost.” In Afghan, the Taliban were routed and are hiding under rocks. In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors and is divided into three separate zones, Kurdish, Shia, and Sunni.
    It may be that you’re one of those naive dreamers who thought the US really expected to build functioning Western style democracies. If that’s what you were looking for, you’re right. I am, of course, referring to the military victory.
    Questions about whether the war should have been fought and if it was worth the cost in lives and fortune, are legitimate and I was against both invasions from the beginning.

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    "Guess it depends on your definition of “lost.” In Afghan, the Taliban were routed and are hiding under rocks. In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors."
    Guess it depends on your definition who "wins." Afghanistan is a hell on earth AFTER (because of) the US invasion there.
    "Entirely Predictable: The U.S. Is Leaving Afghanistan Worse Off Than Before:" http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/entirely_predictable_the_us_is_leaving_afghanistan_20141106
    "Afghanistan War.. The first phase—toppling the Taliban —was brief, lasting just two months. The second phase, from 2002 until 2008, was marked by a U.S. strategy of defeating the Taliban militarily and rebuilding core institutions of the Afghan state. The third phase, a turn to classic counterinsurgency doctrine, began in 2008... The new approach largely failed to achieve its aims. Insurgent attacks and civilian casualties remained stubbornly high... By the time the U.S. and NATO combat mission formally ended in December 2014, the 13-year Afghanistan War had become the longest war ever fought [and lost] by the United States."
    "U.S. Oversight Report: Afghanistan 'Even More Dangerous Than It Was a Year Ago:" http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/us-oversight-report-afghanistan-even-more-dangerous-it-was-year-ago

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Afghanistan-War
    Your next point: "In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors..."
    You mean, Israel should be happy now? Otherwise, "Iraq: The World Capital of Terrorism:" http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/
    , @rod1963
    Actually the Taliban run the countryside. Our forces could not defeat a element that is part of Pashtun society.

    That's a military failure. Of course they could has asked the British who understood that part of the world and saved themselves the effort.

    With Iraq we took a functioning secular state and destroyed it. Replaced with 3 theocratic regimes that routinely murder minorities - Christians, Druze, Yedzis, you name it. Not to mention making it a terrorist haven.

    Iraq was never a military threat to anyone after the 1st gulf war BTW.

    We basically mugged a crippled state for fun and profit.
  75. @ViCB3
    "It was the best of times. It was the worst of times..."

    A few random thoughts:

    -Forget about angry Peasants with pitchforks. Revolutions always come from the middle. (In France it was the Middle Class that was being squeezed, as it is now in the United States.) And the disconnected elites are always surprised when it happens. Reference ‘How Tyrannies Implode’ at PJ Media – https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/02/27/how-tyrannies-implode/?singlepage=true – to get an idea of how fast the established order can fall to pieces.

    -It's beginning to feel like both just before both 1787 *and* August 1914/September 1939. (My mom, speaking from firsthand experience, will tell you it feels like 1939. I have no reason to doubt her.)

    -My take:

    If Hilary gets in, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    If Trump gets whacked or “has an accident” before taking office, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    If Trump gets in but doesn’t deliver on his promises, then you get a civil war or revolution.

    And if some idiot starts World War III, thinking that it will “pull people together” or “unite the country,” then…well, you know

    -Pre-Revolution, beheading pretty much was reserved for the Aristocracy. It was the Peasants who got themselves hung, a process of slow strangulation. In the spirit of egalitarianism, the Revolution introduced beheading as a more humane form of execution for all. The Guillotine also made the process quite efficient; on an assembly line basis, it was possible to dispatch a victim every 90 seconds.

    -Factoid Time:

    The blade assembly on a Guillotine weighs in at about 88 lbs. The drop on a Guillotine blade is about 88 inches.

    Those two bits of information combined together make for an interesting hashtag or bit of graffiti: #88/88.

    I like reading history, but I don’t want to live it.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    “Forget about angry Peasants with pitchforks. Revolutions always come from the middle. (In France it was the Middle Class that was being squeezed, as it is now in the United States.)”

    Wishful thinking. No doubt you consider yourself middle class. So does every Senator and Congressman.

    It was the already grossly encumbered peasant, the main/only taxpayer, that was being squeezed in Anciene Régime France. Not the “Middle Class” (bourgeoisie). BTW I like Dickens too, but it’s not his best effort.

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  76. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Incitatus
    “revolts from the bottom always fail. Successful revolution needs financing which comes from outside. This is true for English and French and Bolshevik revolutions.”

    What outside money, pray tell, fueled the French Revolution?

    Incitatus

    What fueled the Revolution was the rage of The Female Working Class Fish Mongerers whose children were starving. These were the very same women who stormed the Bastille and enthusiastically ripped the guts out of King Louis’ entourage”I want the intestine!!!!!!!!!!”….”I want the f…..g kidney”…

    Oligarch Donald Trump supports importing Hindu Legal Immigrant computer programmers and engineers=Democratic Party Voting Bloc.

    Let Hillary Clinton destroy America…then we can have a race revolt….

    I have violent hatred of the Alt Right….I don’t want Emperor Trump lording over me you f…….g girly boys.

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    I don’t like Trump or Clinton, so I suppose there’s some common ground between us. As far as “race revolt” goes, I think most people care more about their pocketbook than race (the late Alfred Rosenberg excepted). BTW what’s up with your “you f......g girly boys” routine? Are you really that unhappy with yourself?
  77. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Fred and Unz Review Readers

    I was 15 minutes late to the strike by the Dominican Cruise Missile in Manorville.

    Steve Sailer should google the news story. The Dominican Cruise Missile in Manorville(Pine Barren Region) a member of the Democratic Party Voting Bloc managed to take out a Democratic Party Insider. Traffic backed up for miles. Pure Steve Sailer material.

    Trump can not make America great again…that was very clear to me at 10 AM on the LIE. America is irreversibly doomed. The previous day….Lake George was taken over by Khizir Khan’s People…very pregnant. Utica has been colonized by Bosnian Muslims…..The Muslim Armpit of NYS….

    Toilet Bowl “America” has arrived….

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  78. @utu
    "What outside money, pray tell, fueled the French Revolution?" - Masons, British bankers.

    Names, evidence and sources please.

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  79. @War for Blair Mountain
    Incitatus


    What fueled the Revolution was the rage of The Female Working Class Fish Mongerers whose children were starving. These were the very same women who stormed the Bastille and enthusiastically ripped the guts out of King Louis' entourage"I want the intestine!!!!!!!!!!"...."I want the f.....g kidney"...


    Oligarch Donald Trump supports importing Hindu Legal Immigrant computer programmers and engineers=Democratic Party Voting Bloc.


    Let Hillary Clinton destroy America...then we can have a race revolt....


    I have violent hatred of the Alt Right....I don't want Emperor Trump lording over me you f.......g girly boys.

    I don’t like Trump or Clinton, so I suppose there’s some common ground between us. As far as “race revolt” goes, I think most people care more about their pocketbook than race (the late Alfred Rosenberg excepted). BTW what’s up with your “you f……g girly boys” routine? Are you really that unhappy with yourself?

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  80. @Tabasco Jack
    Two couplets from two songs whose names I cannot recall

    I love to hear that revolutionary sound
    of concrete crashing to the ground
    the following is not a couplet but just one line

    wild wild women and desperate men (song about Cuban Revolution)

    The American people are too fat and too simple-minded to get off their collective asses to revolt, sorry to say.

    The American people are too fat and too simple-minded to get off their collective asses to revolt, sorry to say.

    Correct. The American marshmallow is no 1776 Minuteman. He will never revolt. What WILL happen is that the elites will lose their grip, the Ponzi scheme will collapse, and the blacks will go on a looting/crime spree and hack the fat, stupid whites to death as if it were Rwanda — except that, unlike Rwanda, they’ll steal flat-screens after the murders.

    The fat, stupid whites will then beg for the government to suspend the Constitution and impose martial law.

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  81. Civil war or any war means 2 sides fighting. Whites have not fought back since the 1918 attack on Whites in Brownsville Tx by black soldiers from the local army base.

    All Whites have is keyboard warriors bragging that they own 5 rifles, 3 handguns and a few boxes of ammo stockpiled for the White revolution that will never happen.

    No leaders, no organization, no money, Whites are in no condition to fight back.

    The American Indians fought a better fight than Whites have.

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  82. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountian"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    In the closing days of the Pre-Guilliotine-Era America leading up to the Guillotine-Era-America, the Alt Right should-must be pitbull unrelenting with the following meme:the open and deliberate policy of reducing the Historic Native Born White American Majority to a violently persecuted white minority in post-white toilet bowl America is driven by the low wage labor policy-strategy of the White Liberal Greedy Cheating MEGA-WHITE CEO. This policy required the mass importation of the highly racialized Asian Scab Labor Democratic Party Voting Bloc.

    The Legal Immigrant Asian Scab Labor and its US born Asian Geneline is now a a highly racialized Asian Fifth Column that owns 95 percent of the “US” Congress. Time to bring back the Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act.

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    If the Alt Right continues to blather on and on about IQ Psychometrics, the Alt Right will sidetrack away from the above meme-framework completely and indefintiely...and as a consequence, blow an opportunity to have a public hanging of THE GREEDY CHEATING WHITE LIBERAL MEGA-CEO.

    So this is the IQ Test that I am giving to the Alt Right:1)be dull and boring and let the evil doers get away with our demographic murder...or 2)hasten the arrival of Guillotine America!!!....The ball is your corner now Richard Spencer.


    If you want to know what the future holds for White Liberal Democratic....go google the Manorville car accident on the LIE...go read about who the victims were of the Hispanic Cruise Missile...Pure-unadulturated Poetic Justice.
  83. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @War for Blair Mountain
    In the closing days of the Pre-Guilliotine-Era America leading up to the Guillotine-Era-America, the Alt Right should-must be pitbull unrelenting with the following meme:the open and deliberate policy of reducing the Historic Native Born White American Majority to a violently persecuted white minority in post-white toilet bowl America is driven by the low wage labor policy-strategy of the White Liberal Greedy Cheating MEGA-WHITE CEO. This policy required the mass importation of the highly racialized Asian Scab Labor Democratic Party Voting Bloc.


    The Legal Immigrant Asian Scab Labor and its US born Asian Geneline is now a a highly racialized Asian Fifth Column that owns 95 percent of the "US" Congress. Time to bring back the Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act.

    If the Alt Right continues to blather on and on about IQ Psychometrics, the Alt Right will sidetrack away from the above meme-framework completely and indefintiely…and as a consequence, blow an opportunity to have a public hanging of THE GREEDY CHEATING WHITE LIBERAL MEGA-CEO.

    So this is the IQ Test that I am giving to the Alt Right:1)be dull and boring and let the evil doers get away with our demographic murder…or 2)hasten the arrival of Guillotine America!!!….The ball is your corner now Richard Spencer.

    If you want to know what the future holds for White Liberal Democratic….go google the Manorville car accident on the LIE…go read about who the victims were of the Hispanic Cruise Missile…Pure-unadulturated Poetic Justice.

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  84. @Rich
    Guess it depends on your definition of "lost." In Afghan, the Taliban were routed and are hiding under rocks. In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors and is divided into three separate zones, Kurdish, Shia, and Sunni.
    It may be that you're one of those naive dreamers who thought the US really expected to build functioning Western style democracies. If that's what you were looking for, you're right. I am, of course, referring to the military victory.
    Questions about whether the war should have been fought and if it was worth the cost in lives and fortune, are legitimate and I was against both invasions from the beginning.

    “Guess it depends on your definition of “lost.” In Afghan, the Taliban were routed and are hiding under rocks. In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors.”
    Guess it depends on your definition who “wins.” Afghanistan is a hell on earth AFTER (because of) the US invasion there.
    “Entirely Predictable: The U.S. Is Leaving Afghanistan Worse Off Than Before:” http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/entirely_predictable_the_us_is_leaving_afghanistan_20141106
    “Afghanistan War.. The first phase—toppling the Taliban —was brief, lasting just two months. The second phase, from 2002 until 2008, was marked by a U.S. strategy of defeating the Taliban militarily and rebuilding core institutions of the Afghan state. The third phase, a turn to classic counterinsurgency doctrine, began in 2008… The new approach largely failed to achieve its aims. Insurgent attacks and civilian casualties remained stubbornly high… By the time the U.S. and NATO combat mission formally ended in December 2014, the 13-year Afghanistan War had become the longest war ever fought [and lost] by the United States.”
    “U.S. Oversight Report: Afghanistan ‘Even More Dangerous Than It Was a Year Ago:” http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/us-oversight-report-afghanistan-even-more-dangerous-it-was-year-ago

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Afghanistan-War

    Your next point: “In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors…”
    You mean, Israel should be happy now? Otherwise, “Iraq: The World Capital of Terrorism:” http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/

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    Again, so what? The Taliban were beaten, the Iraqi Military was beaten. That's all that matters. I don't care whether Israel benefited or not, my point is the US soundly defeated both nations. Why is anything else even argued? Both Iraq and Afghanistan were hell holes before they US invaded and remain hell holes now. I'm just glad my ancestors had the sense to go west and not east.
  85. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Hillary Clinton’s vision for America=The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority a violently persecuted racial minority in post-white toilet “America”=violent race War against Whitey…

    The Democratic Party=The Crush Whitey’s fucking skull in Party!!!!!

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  86. That’s part of it Fred. Sadly I’ve learned the other part from signing the front side of the paycheck for the last four decades. What passes for a days work today would get you an ass whipping in my youth.

    Much of America is unemployable. I spoke with a vendor today that is looking for a technical service representative. It’s a phone job with some travel but requires skill and experience. Can’t find anyone.

    I always have openings for men that will work. I pay between $40 and $90K/year. Life is just too easy here. I know why the Mexicans are cleaning up in construction. They work their asses off. Like me.

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  87. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    A very severe labor scarcity must never be used as an excuse to race-replace The Historic Native Born White American Majority Working Class.

    The Greedy Cheating White Liberal MEGA-CEO stark raving fear of a very severe labor scarcity was the foundation of post-1965 Immigration Policy. That is to say, a stark-raving fear of a high real wage for The Historic Native Born White American Working Class. Monumental MEGA-GREED is the foundation of post-1965 Immigration Policy.

    And Donald Trump wants to give this Greedy Cheating Swine a massive tax break.

    Comrade Fred is for the guillotine as punishment. I would use vats of car battery acid instead….maximize the terror,fear, and the decibel levels of the high pitch screams…gotta be at least a 125 decibels…

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  88. @Rich
    Guess it depends on your definition of "lost." In Afghan, the Taliban were routed and are hiding under rocks. In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors and is divided into three separate zones, Kurdish, Shia, and Sunni.
    It may be that you're one of those naive dreamers who thought the US really expected to build functioning Western style democracies. If that's what you were looking for, you're right. I am, of course, referring to the military victory.
    Questions about whether the war should have been fought and if it was worth the cost in lives and fortune, are legitimate and I was against both invasions from the beginning.

    Actually the Taliban run the countryside. Our forces could not defeat a element that is part of Pashtun society.

    That’s a military failure. Of course they could has asked the British who understood that part of the world and saved themselves the effort.

    With Iraq we took a functioning secular state and destroyed it. Replaced with 3 theocratic regimes that routinely murder minorities – Christians, Druze, Yedzis, you name it. Not to mention making it a terrorist haven.

    Iraq was never a military threat to anyone after the 1st gulf war BTW.

    We basically mugged a crippled state for fun and profit.

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    • Replies: @Rich
    So what? Doesn't mean they weren't beaten like a rented mule. You disagree with the war, okay, but stop trying to pretend that both the Iraqis and the Afghans weren't defeated. They lost. The US won. It's all very simple, doesn't matter that Iraq wasn't a threat, doesn't matter that the Taliban had shut down poppy production and were willing to hand Bin Laden over, both nations were militarily defeated. That's all I'm saying. The aftermath isn't pretty, but they were both beaten.
  89. @rod1963
    Actually the Taliban run the countryside. Our forces could not defeat a element that is part of Pashtun society.

    That's a military failure. Of course they could has asked the British who understood that part of the world and saved themselves the effort.

    With Iraq we took a functioning secular state and destroyed it. Replaced with 3 theocratic regimes that routinely murder minorities - Christians, Druze, Yedzis, you name it. Not to mention making it a terrorist haven.

    Iraq was never a military threat to anyone after the 1st gulf war BTW.

    We basically mugged a crippled state for fun and profit.

    So what? Doesn’t mean they weren’t beaten like a rented mule. You disagree with the war, okay, but stop trying to pretend that both the Iraqis and the Afghans weren’t defeated. They lost. The US won. It’s all very simple, doesn’t matter that Iraq wasn’t a threat, doesn’t matter that the Taliban had shut down poppy production and were willing to hand Bin Laden over, both nations were militarily defeated. That’s all I’m saying. The aftermath isn’t pretty, but they were both beaten.

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  90. @annamaria
    "Guess it depends on your definition of “lost.” In Afghan, the Taliban were routed and are hiding under rocks. In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors."
    Guess it depends on your definition who "wins." Afghanistan is a hell on earth AFTER (because of) the US invasion there.
    "Entirely Predictable: The U.S. Is Leaving Afghanistan Worse Off Than Before:" http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/entirely_predictable_the_us_is_leaving_afghanistan_20141106
    "Afghanistan War.. The first phase—toppling the Taliban —was brief, lasting just two months. The second phase, from 2002 until 2008, was marked by a U.S. strategy of defeating the Taliban militarily and rebuilding core institutions of the Afghan state. The third phase, a turn to classic counterinsurgency doctrine, began in 2008... The new approach largely failed to achieve its aims. Insurgent attacks and civilian casualties remained stubbornly high... By the time the U.S. and NATO combat mission formally ended in December 2014, the 13-year Afghanistan War had become the longest war ever fought [and lost] by the United States."
    "U.S. Oversight Report: Afghanistan 'Even More Dangerous Than It Was a Year Ago:" http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/us-oversight-report-afghanistan-even-more-dangerous-it-was-year-ago

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Afghanistan-War
    Your next point: "In Iraq, the Baath leadership is dead, the country is basically eliminated as a threat to its neighbors..."
    You mean, Israel should be happy now? Otherwise, "Iraq: The World Capital of Terrorism:" http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/

    Again, so what? The Taliban were beaten, the Iraqi Military was beaten. That’s all that matters. I don’t care whether Israel benefited or not, my point is the US soundly defeated both nations. Why is anything else even argued? Both Iraq and Afghanistan were hell holes before they US invaded and remain hell holes now. I’m just glad my ancestors had the sense to go west and not east.

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  91. “They lost. The US won. The aftermath isn’t pretty, but they were both beaten.”
    1. The facts on the ground say that the US have lost the Afghan war to Taliban, while destroying the country (murdering the helpless victim, the Afghan people).http://www.salon.com/2015/11/06/america_lost_in_afghanistan_partner/
    2. The facts on the ground say that the US has created in Iraq “the world capital of terrorism;” this, along with the US/NATO intervention in Libya and and Syria, has endangered Europeans, including large Jewish communities there (see the refugee/migrants crisis in EU):

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/

    The destruction of Iraq is a boon for Israel, but not for a long time. It was fun for the US/Israel to create ISIS (by feeding Al Qaeda, the supposed enemy) in order to tear Syria apart (to make Israel “safer”) but the situation has got complicated. And the complication is something more than the understandable involvement of Russian Federation into the Syrian conflict (to protect Russian southern borders from jihadis): There has been a growing world-wide disgust with ziocons and Israel. Hence the “discovery” of the main players in the Russian Socialist Revolution (see “Two Hundred Years Together” by Solzhenitsyn); the role of bankers/zionists in the WWII; and revision of some of claims re holocaust… A steady losing of the “most moral” ground.
    What is the story of Purim? – “Throughout the Persian empire 75,000 Jewish enemies are killed” (Esther 9:16). Who were the “enemies?” – The native Persians. And this is what all Jewish kids celebrate each year? – Sick.

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  92. Here’s the Russian Royal family story. Pay attention. The Romanovs had been in Bolshevik custody for a long time. Trosky favoured putting the Tsar et al on ceremonial trial but the violence of the civil war precluded such an initiative. Lenin knew Trotsky was well qualified to conduct a show trial but thought it a waste of time. The Bolsheviks had no interest in the ex-head of state. They just parked the Royal family while they got on with fighting about the substance of the state.

    Only when the Whites approached Ekaterinburg did the fact of the Royal family’s existence force itself onto the agenda. Lenin feared that if the otherwise harmless Royal family were to fall into White hands that would be a powerful rallying point for the Bolshevik’s enemies. In such a life and death struggle, this could weigh heavy against the Bolsheviks. If Lenin was U.S. Grant the Tsar et al would be absolutely dead. With the fate of Republic in the balance Abraham Lincoln would have ordered their deaths as a ‘military necessity’.

    At the time Lenin and others informed didn’t pay a lot of attention to this matter. As it didn’t seem to be playing out adversely their attention was of necessity drawn to more pressing matters. Nobody had anything personal against the Nicholas and his family. The leading Bolsheviks knew he was no personal villain. The actual undertaking was disgraceful. Lenin failed to give proper order for such an unpleasant duty. Busy as he was, a matter of this level should have better commanded his attention or one of his deputies. I think later Trotsky lamented this outcome.

    Perhaps he was thinking of the English King Henry VII who captured a rival pretender to the throne and instead of killing him in the usual gruesome way instead put him to work in the royal kitchens. Trotsky could get the Czar sentenced to life as a sanitary engineer in Ublexistan.

    Sorry, but it’s just business, see?

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    Your answer is inane and makes no logical sense. What does Grant or Lincoln have to do with the killing of the Russian royal family? Nothing, neither ever ordered the assassination on any public official or his children.

    Here is what Lenin did: he ordered the killing of an entire family, wife and children included. There was not trial. Lenin believed in and propagated the terror state, he was filled with bitterness to the royal family for the death of his brother after the archaist killing of Alexander the III. He was a small twisted man who did great damage to Russia, damage that exists to this day.
  93. @Ned Ludlam
    Here's the Russian Royal family story. Pay attention. The Romanovs had been in Bolshevik custody for a long time. Trosky favoured putting the Tsar et al on ceremonial trial but the violence of the civil war precluded such an initiative. Lenin knew Trotsky was well qualified to conduct a show trial but thought it a waste of time. The Bolsheviks had no interest in the ex-head of state. They just parked the Royal family while they got on with fighting about the substance of the state.

    Only when the Whites approached Ekaterinburg did the fact of the Royal family's existence force itself onto the agenda. Lenin feared that if the otherwise harmless Royal family were to fall into White hands that would be a powerful rallying point for the Bolshevik's enemies. In such a life and death struggle, this could weigh heavy against the Bolsheviks. If Lenin was U.S. Grant the Tsar et al would be absolutely dead. With the fate of Republic in the balance Abraham Lincoln would have ordered their deaths as a 'military necessity'.

    At the time Lenin and others informed didn't pay a lot of attention to this matter. As it didn't seem to be playing out adversely their attention was of necessity drawn to more pressing matters. Nobody had anything personal against the Nicholas and his family. The leading Bolsheviks knew he was no personal villain. The actual undertaking was disgraceful. Lenin failed to give proper order for such an unpleasant duty. Busy as he was, a matter of this level should have better commanded his attention or one of his deputies. I think later Trotsky lamented this outcome.

    Perhaps he was thinking of the English King Henry VII who captured a rival pretender to the throne and instead of killing him in the usual gruesome way instead put him to work in the royal kitchens. Trotsky could get the Czar sentenced to life as a sanitary engineer in Ublexistan.

    Sorry, but it's just business, see?

    Your answer is inane and makes no logical sense. What does Grant or Lincoln have to do with the killing of the Russian royal family? Nothing, neither ever ordered the assassination on any public official or his children.

    Here is what Lenin did: he ordered the killing of an entire family, wife and children included. There was not trial. Lenin believed in and propagated the terror state, he was filled with bitterness to the royal family for the death of his brother after the archaist killing of Alexander the III. He was a small twisted man who did great damage to Russia, damage that exists to this day.

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    You're missing the point. In a civil war - Russian or American - military necessity rules. Nobody got 'trials'. The Tsar and his family had been safely in custody of the Bolsheviks. Their personal welfare was not in jeopardy. Lenin was never motivated by personal vengeance. Faced with terror the Bolsheviks responded in kind but with a degree of discipline their enemies had none of. Go read what Grant and Sherman wrote and you'll see the same frame of mind.

    Lenin was an outstanding leader. Too bad he didn't live long enough to prevent Stalin's rise but better yet if Russia had more like him.
  94. @Sam the Man
    Your answer is inane and makes no logical sense. What does Grant or Lincoln have to do with the killing of the Russian royal family? Nothing, neither ever ordered the assassination on any public official or his children.

    Here is what Lenin did: he ordered the killing of an entire family, wife and children included. There was not trial. Lenin believed in and propagated the terror state, he was filled with bitterness to the royal family for the death of his brother after the archaist killing of Alexander the III. He was a small twisted man who did great damage to Russia, damage that exists to this day.

    You’re missing the point. In a civil war – Russian or American – military necessity rules. Nobody got ‘trials’. The Tsar and his family had been safely in custody of the Bolsheviks. Their personal welfare was not in jeopardy. Lenin was never motivated by personal vengeance. Faced with terror the Bolsheviks responded in kind but with a degree of discipline their enemies had none of. Go read what Grant and Sherman wrote and you’ll see the same frame of mind.

    Lenin was an outstanding leader. Too bad he didn’t live long enough to prevent Stalin’s rise but better yet if Russia had more like him.

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  95. @Thim
    All very well, but you miss the main point. So many of the military people will be the first to rebel. They are very well informed, and they are mad as hell. Don't assume their loyalty to the regime when TSHTF.

    So many of the military people will be the first to rebel. They are very well informed, and they are mad as hell. Don’t assume their loyalty to the regime when TSHTF.

    More importantly, the tools of government enforcement are drawn from the ranks of the oppressed people. Are Marines going to start firing on a mob that may contain their friends, siblings, even their parents? The unanswerable question is what will it take for Joe Plumber the middle class guy to risk everything and make a stand. We’ve seen a couple small scale insurrections out West, but what could conceivably ignite large scale defiance? The utter collapse of our economy is one perhaps, but what else? Full scale negro rioting in all our cities simultaneously? Those riots escaping the urban core and moving out into suburbia? I’d never have believed German men would passively watch while their nation is invaded by millions of hostile Arabs and negroes. Nor would I have believed Scandinavian men could just passively watch while their daughters and wives are made sex toys for still more Arabs and negroes. Our European brothers sit and do nothing while ever larger areas of their ancestral homelands fall to complete control of the invaders.

    I’d like to think American men are built of sterner stuff, but look at the crime and violence we tolerate from our negroes and Mexican invaders. Tens of thousands of white women, from young girls to geriatric grandmothers, have been raped and still white “men” cheer for their favorite gang of negroes in yoga pants every Saturday and Sunday afternoon and pay handsomely for clothing with their negro hero’s name on the back. It’s hard to imagine such “men” ever standing up against those who seek to dispossess us.

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  96. @Verymuchalive
    Another article reeking with hypocrisy and omission. No mention of the massive third world immigration into America which is displacing native workers and drastically reducing wages for most.
    Oh, and aren't most of immigrants from Mexico, where Mr Reed resides. And aren't the oligarchs - Slim et al - even more conspicuous. It strikes me that there is much more chance of a revolution in Mexico. If I was a rich old gringo living in Mexico like Fred Reed, I would be seriously worried for my own wellbeing. But some people never see it coming, it's always the Romanovs, the Bourbons or someone else.
    And don't you believe that Freddy and his family were bad people. The mob of Mayas who hacked them to death with their machetes? They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time....everybody knows Mayans are ordinarily very intelligent, rational people.

    As long as the USA and the rest of the West can be used as a safety valve for corrupt 3rd world cesspools like Latin America and Africa, there will be little revolution in those areas. Which is why I want a President Trump to deport the 20 million illegals infesting the US. At that point the corrupt kleptocrats will have to finally pay attention. Saving, or more likely delaying, the time when the US becomes a corrupt 3rd world country is well worth doing.

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