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Is it possible for the United States to break up, either de facto or formally?

I wonder. The country is not a happy place. Today it is more consciously and resentfully divided, politically, regionally, racially and by sex and class than perhaps ever before. The rich prosper and the middle class sink. Three major racial blocs eye each other with fear and hostility. The hard left controls the media and government against the desires of much of the country, enforcing social engineering that is deeply disliked. Feminists make war on men, and destroy the schools and universities. Washington is widely loathed. Rules, laws, and regulations never voted on grow ever more burdensome and intrusive. Many quietly want out. The question is how to get there.

A breakup will not come by armed secession. We tried that, with poor results. It will come, if it does, by gradual degrees, by inadvertence, by quietly ignoring the central government, by incremental defiance. This has begun. Whether it will continue remains to be seen.

It is not clear that the feds could prevent it. How powerful, really, is Washington? Consider. Marijuana is illegal under federal law, yet Colorado and Washington state made it legal, and got away with it. The feds did not arrest the governors or send troops. Since then, Alaska and Washington DC have legalized weed. Other states seem poised to follow. Unless Washington does something dramatic and soon, the states will learn that they can simply ignore the feds.

Who might like to secede? Most conspicuously, Latinos. In four states—California, Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico—Latinos either have or will soon have a demographic majority, which means that eventually they will have a voting majority.

This doesn´t mean that white and brown will be locked in mortal political combat. In much of the country Latinos and whites get along reasonably well. It means that Hispanic influence, already potent, will become more so. It may (or may not) mean that Latinos, like blacks, will clump together in such numbers and concentrations that they will have little contact with whites and little incentive to assimilate. Why would they? They like their civilization, food, music, and culture. What they want in America is prosperity.

To generalize but not, I think, excessively, Hispanics have more in common with Mexico that with Washington. Whites in many Western states have little in common with Washington and the Northeast.

Now, here things become interesting. Illegal immigration is, clearly, illegal—yet a black President and attorney general, probably from racial hostility to whites, are doing all they can to increase the Hispanic population of the US. But how could any President stop it? Too many interests have a stake in continuing it. Building a fence along the border is fantasy, as is revoking birthright citizenship. The influx will continue, and new children will not be deportable. They will eventually vote.

The consequence, now inevitable, is that the Southwest will become more Mexican than American. The larger a minority population, the harder to make it do things it doesn’t want to do.

California now issues driver’s licenses to illegals. The police are not allowed to ask about status of immigration. There is talk of allowing illegals to vote in municipal elections, which will speed Mexicanization. These and similar measures come close to making them citizens of California, while not of America.

The drip-by-drip empowerment of Latinos advances apace. The New York Times: “LOS ANGELES — California is challenging the historic status of American citizenship with measures to permit noncitizens to sit on juries…and to open the practice of law even to those here illegally. It is the leading edge of a national trend that includes granting drivers’ licenses and in-state tuition to illegal immigrants in some states ….”

Yep.

New York ponders a similar law.

Defiance of federal law grows common. For example, “Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) says Chicago is the friendliest immigrant city in the nation since they, “made sure that we no longer cooperate with immigration authorities when it comes to the deportation or separation of our families.”

A US congressman, and a US president, defy federal law. This is an ungluing of note.

What can Washington do if states and regions simply go their own way? If large numbsr of people stop paying income taxes, say? One tax evader can be arrested. Fifty thousand cannot. A problem for the feds is that if a state’s police decline to enforce federal laws, the feds have to do it themselves, and they don’t have the manpower. Passive resistance is hard to prosecute, gradualism offers scant pretext, rising generations seem less concerned about immigration than their elders, and a forcible response from Washington would entail frightful political risks.

So as the Fatal Four southwestern states become ever more Latino, what if they de facto eliminate the border with Mexico? They wouldn’t describe it that way. They probably wouldn’t describe it at all. They would just ignore sovereignty. In a globalizing world, the very idea of sovereignty seems less important that it once did. I will guess that the young, who will one day be older, care less than their elders about national identity.

How then would Washington enforce its will? Send the Army? Bomb Los Angeles? Them as has the numbers gets their way. And are getting it.

The result could easily be a de facto integration with Mexico—businesses operating on both sides of the border as if there were no border, a completely free flow of people, and the like.

In the past the rock-solid unity of the United States existed because people wanted it. The foundation was a largely uniform white, Christian, European culture which no one thought about because there was no reason to think about it. Minorities were minor enough that they had to conform to the dominant culture. People shared ideas of morality, education, crime, music, religion, dress, manners, and patriotism.

ORDER IT NOW

That unity is gone forever. The old, functioning system has been replaced, not by another functioning system, such as that of Japan, China, or Korea, but by civilizational chaos. A law of human behavior is that people want to live among people like themselves. Another is that they do not like being ruled from afar by people they detest. Who likes Washington today?

Another possibility of secession lies in the South. Mississippi, the darkest state, is thirty-seven percent black. Although we are not permitted to say it, the racial hostility of blacks toward whites is intense. While whites will (now, anyway) vote for a black candidate over a white—which is how we got Obama—blacks vote as a bloc for black candidates. (If memory serves, Obama got 93% of the black vote.)

Should the black percentage in Mississippi grow to a tipping point, then, when whites bail out (which is usually what happens though we are not supposed to say this either), the state would become a self-governing country within a country—dependent on federal subsidies, yes, but having no loyalty to or culture in common with white society. It would not, methinks, feel an urgent need to obey federal laws.

Tell me I’m crazy. But wait twenty years.

Anyone interested in what Mexico is and is not would do well to read Manana Forever by Jorge Castañeda. Not a puff book, just accurate.


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  1. What can Washington do if states and regions simply go their own way?

    All your examples of nullification and getting-away-with-it-ism are of causes already on the “right side of history”–tolerance for pot, and violation of American sovereignty. Show me a state that defies the 1960s civil rights laws and I’ll show you a supersized version of the Branch Davidian pacification.

  2. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t think it’s possible for the US to break up or break apart but rather to break down, that is, it’ll implode. What the actual scenario would look like can’t be known since no one is clairvoyant no matter how astute they may sound. Looking for examples might be helpful: Would it resemble the Ottoman empire, long period of decline with a series of hard knocks towards the end? The Russian empire 1917-23? Bosnia? Problem is the US has it’s own unique set of characteristics so it wouldn’t be a copy of what’s happened elsewhere. Quickly or slowly, with a bang or a whimper? If the war-hawks get us bogged down in a major war somewhere that escalates beyond expectations in human and financial cost it could cause major blowback and accelerate the process, particularly if it ends in a humiliating defeat. Internal refugees would probably be created causing demographic shifts with the SW becoming all Hispanic, parts of the South becoming all black with Atlanta as it’s capital city, NE and NW all white. With the US weakened we’ll get foreign interference, perhaps even foreign intervention.
    Sooner or later something will spark off a chain reaction like the assassination of the archduke did over a hundred years ago. We just don’t know how or when.

  3. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    Better Mex than blax.

  4. Bliss says:

    blacks vote as a bloc for black candidates. (If memory serves, Obama got 93% of the black vote.)

    Reality Check: White Al Gore got 90% of the black vote and 42% of the white vote in 1990. In 2012 Obama got 93% of the black vote and Romney got 39% of the white vote. Draw the correct conclusions…

    Another possibility of secession lies in the South.

    Funny how you tell us with a straight face that its blacks in Mississippi who are the possible secessionists, completely disregarding the history of the South (where you are from) and the current mentality of many of the whites there to this day. How is it possible that you are ignorant of the Texas governor’s threat of seceding?

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/16/texas-governor-says-secession-possible/

    Speaking to an energetic and angry tea party crowd in Austin Wednesday evening, the Lone Star State governor suggested secession may happen in the future should the federal government not change its fiscal polices.

    “There’s a lot of different scenarios,” Perry said. “We’ve got a great union. There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that”.

    If secession and civil war comes again it will be started by the same people as the first time. People like you. Note that the base of the Republican Party is southern whites.

  5. Good article by Fred. I think the key to the future of the United States lies in the mid-west, something that Fred’s article didn’t discuss too much. What will be the attitude of white mid-westerners as they watch the south and southwest engage in de facto secession? I predict more or less indifference. The key point is whether the white people of the mid-west will want their own de facto country in these circumstances. If they do, will they be willing to forcibly exclude, or even forcibly deport, blacks and Hispanics? A black nation in the south will start resembling Haiti or west Africa relatively quickly; a Hispanic nation in the southwest will resemble Mexico and Central America. The inhabitants are going to start looking enviously at the relatively prosperous mid-west. Will whites then have the resolve to exclude them, by force if necessary? Or will they acquiesce to the migration policies that began undermining the U.S. demographically in 1965?

  6. @Bliss

    Reality Check: White Al Gore got 90% of the black vote and 42% of the white vote in 1990. In 2012 Obama got 93% of the black vote and Romney got 39% of the white vote. Draw the correct conclusions…

    Whaaaaaaat? 1990? In the Tennessee senate election of 1990, both candidates were white. (Hawkins being Gore’s opponent.)

    Are you nuts? If you really meant the 2000 presidential election, both candidates were white, and Bush won.

    Do you understand the concept of vote breakdown by race?

    You continue to post ignorant, and quite frankly, rather stupid comments. Would you please make an effort to educate yourself with facts, just a little?

    • Replies: @Bliss
  7. Overly pessimistic, Mr.Reed.

    Ofcourse a huge land like the USA will always have it’s troubles and maybe occasionally a few hunderd thousand or a million or two (less then 1%) will get killed in internal strife between white, black, hispanic in a noticable time frame.
    Nothing the USA can not absorb or not replace.

    The land is potable, defendable and it’s crazy populace has the biggest war machine on earth with the only global currency.

    I would never want to live there but I’m long US stock.

  8. Fred, does Judith Podell know she qualifies for “that Earlene broad” credentials?

    Do you have the right to sing the blues?

    Yes, if:

    a. your first name is a southern state.
    b. you’re blind.
    c. you shot a man in Memphis.
    d. you can’t be satisfied.

    No, if:

    a. you once were blind but now can see.
    b. you’re deaf.

  9. Michaeloh says:

    International Jew has it right; defiance of immigration laws, whether by the President or a state is an exercise in the de facto dominance of the Left over what remains of their opposition. To view it as a States Rights movement or proto-seccessionist is bass akwards, Fred.

  10. rastignac says:

    Such a cute precocious essay! But let me ask a couple of questions that you failed to raise – maybe once you get a bit older . . . If all what you describe happens, who would carry on the tradition of American arrogance? Would Mexicans go on overthrowing foreign governments? Starting wars? Bombing hapless nations? Killing millions of people as in the recent past? May it’s the Jews in DC that would take care of that business.

  11. @International Jew

    Yep.

    Pot and illegal immigration are things supported by the left. When some ranchers and others in Arizona tried to start protecting their stretch of the border, the federal government got very interested, very quickly. If some heavily white state started challenging any civil rights laws, the feds would be on them in a heartbeat.

    However, that all being said, I do believe that a gradual breakdown of our country/society is happening. The idea of being an “American” no longer has much meaning and will have no meaning very quickly. Whites (naive bumpkins that we are – except southern whites who’ve learned these lessons before) likely will be the last to figure this out, but, eventually, we will.

    That’s when things will get more interesting. But that doesn’t mean some type of Mad Max breakdown. The country could just drift toward some type of Mexico/Brazil/Texas/California/New Mexico blend. No riots, no revolution. Just a country crappy enough that illegal immigration slows or stops because what’s the point of moving to a country where you’ll be as poor as you are at home with friends and family. Whites and Asians will live in gated communities or areas rich enough or distant enough to avoid blacks. Businesses will function. The government will be fairly incompetent and not much of a force due to lack of revenues and skilled employees.

    Basically, the U.S. will become just another crappy South/Central American country where a small white/Asian elite rule over a mostly dirt-poor black and brown population. The model works. Of course, it’s not a great model if you’re a working class white family. In fact, it’s damn near genocide for that group. But, hey, when has the left (or the right) worried about those losers.

    • Replies: @Epaminondas
    , @Anonymous
    , @cjc
  12. Silicon Valley should secede from the low-IQ, parasitic welfare state it’s attached to

  13. “Tell me I’m crazy. But wait twenty years.”

    I’ll take the “under five” ……..

  14. MarkinLA says:

    What they want in America is prosperity.

    Yeah, but how they get there makes all the difference in the world. If they try and get it by voting themselves part of somebody else’s pie it won’t be so copacetic. The fact is, they probably won’t get it without affirmative action.

  15. MarkinLA says:

    Now, here things become interesting. Illegal immigration is, clearly, illegal—yet a black President and attorney general, probably from racial hostility to whites, are doing all they can to increase the Hispanic population of the US. But how could any President stop it? Too many interests have a stake in continuing it.

    More and more blacks are figuring out that Hispanic immigration is desired by business owners to cut blacks out of the job market. Maybe one day the CBC will finally figure that out and look out for their interests. Then it could be stopped.

    • Replies: @The Plutonium Kid
    , @tsotha
  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    One hindrance to the breakup of the US is the legacy of social security and medicare. A lot of babyboomers are vested in Social Security and Medicare, and won’t want to see it jeopardized in any way by a de-Federalization of the US.

    • Replies: @map
  17. @MarkinLA

    Not to cut blacks alone out of the job market, but to cut American citizens in general out of the job market.

    The Democrats want votes. The Republicans want cheap labor. Neither cares about you.

  18. rod1963 says:
    @International Jew

    Yep, should a state violate the CRA or a dozen other issues that the D.C. oligarchs deem important and you’ll find that state neck deep in DoJ issued lawsuits, FBI and DHS agents. If locals decide to give the middle-finger to the Feds, then they bring in their professional killers – SEAL Teams and Army Special ops to dispose of them.

    People don’t get the Feds power is absolute on certain subjects. Pot isn’t one of those. Anything that has a whiff of succession or a uppity, populist governor who doesn’t agree with the the various policies of the Feds will bring down it’s wrath.

    And one thing central governments are good at is mass slaughter. They haven’t purchased over a billion rounds just to plink.

    • Replies: @R7 Rocket
    , @map
  19. Latinos will be all for the re-conquistanation of Mexifornia… until they get the bill.

    “Uh, $200 billion… for welfare? Vato… you got the wrong guy, dude. I ain’t got that kind of money.”

    As we’ve seen with 3rd and 4th generation Latinos, it’s come for the prosperity, stay for the handouts. Until they have to come up with the handouts themselves. Then it diverges into a discussion about the achievement gap in schools or something.

    But you’re right on one thing, Fred. If anybody has the huevos for ignoring the government, it’s the Latinos.

  20. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The whole white unity until “the others” arrived is such a fairy tale. Come on Fred.

    Before blacks were allowed to enter society and Asians and Mexicans were here in low numbers it was the same game as it is today. Wasps were in charge and they didn’t like the Polish, Irish, and Italians who were coming in.

    Protestant vs Catholic, North vs South, etc etc.

    White people had a good decade of “feel good time” post WW2 when America reached its peak prosperity and had won a major war.

    What happened after that? The sixties where blacks were integrated into society and the beginning of massive migration of all kinds.

    So let’s not pretend America ever had anything like a united white identity that had the same religion for anything longer than a decade.

    • Replies: @Hail
  21. Misanthropy Central. The world and country are continuously going to Hell, with each generation doing so literally as they pass on!

  22. Bliss says:

    So as the Fatal Four southwestern states become ever more Latino, what if they de facto eliminate the border with Mexico?

    What if they are armed and instigated by foreign powers?

    http://www.newsweek.com/chechnya-threatens-arm-mexico-if-us-sends-weapons-ukraine-316959

    U.S. senator for Wisconsin Ron Johnson branded it “absolutely necessary” that president Obama provide lethal and nonlethal military assistance to Ukraine, in light of the attacks by Russian-backed rebels on civilians in Mariupol in January.

    In response, Chechnya’s parliamentary speaker Dukuvakha Abdurakhmanov said that the U.S. has “no right” to advise Russia on how to behave with its neighbours.

    He warned that the supply of arms to Ukraine will be perceived by Chechnya, a southern Russian republic, as a signal to deliver new weapons to Mexico to “resume debate on the legal status of the territories annexed by the U.S.”

    Abdurakhmanov is referring to the states of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorado and Wyoming, which Mexico surrendered to the U.S. in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848, a peace deal which concluded the Mexican-American conflict.

  23. Bliss says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    It’s funny how you are getting all hysterical over a simple error. The year was 2000 not 1990. I knew it yet somehow typed it wrong.

    The point is, and Fred and his ilk should know this since it’s common knowledge, black americans tend to overwhelmingly vote for the Democrat in elections regardless of his/her race. That Obama got a little bit more of the black vote than usual is not the big deal that racist rabble rousers like Fred Reed make it out to be.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  24. @Bliss

    His point still holds: politics are, ultimately, tribal.

    Everybody knows the Democrats are the party of restive ethnic and cultural minorities. The only thing keeping the circular firing squad on task is Evil Whitey in the middle. Whites are headed to plurality status with everybody else, and then it’s not just Whitey vs. everybody with a grievance, but Latino vs. Black, Arab vs. Jew, Hindu vs. Muslim, and on and on. The Kook Party is kicking the can down the road by nominating an elderly white woman who says all the right things, but this is the Democrat’s future. That’s why elderly Jews are giving speeches about anti-Semitism.

  25. More and more blacks are figuring out that Hispanic immigration is desired by business owners to cut blacks out of the job market. Maybe one day the CBC will finally figure that out and look out for their interests. Then it could be stopped.

    Since when does the CBC give a rip about what happens to common black folks? As long as CBC can stay in Washington as a power base to bully and bludgeon the white man, that’s all that matters to them. Kind of like the “BlackLivesMatter” lie. Everyone knows that black lives mean nothing to blacks unless a black life is taken by a white man – if that happens, then money and power flow. This is on display every day in this exceptional country.

  26. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    The whole white unity until “the others” arrived is such a fairy tale

    The core identity in North America, for a few centuries running, was stable. It was: Northwest-European ancestry, shaped by the frontier experience and its attendant values, Protestant Christian by religion, a few other factors.

    (Some variation was always present within the enormous continent of North America [e.g. Cajuns] but this doesn’t somehow disprove the core American identity, any more than, say, eastern Germany’s Slavs disproves a basic German identity).

    Assimilable immigrants mostly (but not all) joined in. This no longer occurs because (1) the new immigrants are not assimilable, and (2) because the “old” core identity is villainized by the new power elite. (All is not lost, though, for as Peter Brimelow says “the core American nation still exists intact”. It’s true. Despite being targeted by the new elite in the way the NSDAP targeted Jews, the core American nation is still out there in the millions, and won’t disappear anytime soon.)

    The new elite in the USA, whose ethnic loyalties are separate, has manufactured the belief that there never was any “American unity” — that U.S. history was a series of crude waves of oppression of all non-WASPs (including non-WASP European ethnicities) which were all heroically overcome,eventually. (This is exactly what you’re saying here, Anon).

  27. John C says:
    @Bliss

    I wish! But in reality, Rick Perry is all talk and no action. He’s the guy who gave in state tuition to illegals. He doesn’t give a damn about that White race.

  28. @International Jew

    Your response is an excellent example of what is driving the secession movement. You zeroed in on the precise issue…ethnicity. And since you obviously have no sympathy with any specific ethnicity outside your self-proclaimed tribe (that handle is a marvel of descriptive power), you have highlighted the real problem in a way that most people would have difficulty defining. I applaud your propensity to self-destruction. No one deserves it better than you.

  29. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    And said crappy country, completely impoverished, ruled over by Israel. Oh, I can’t wait.

  30. abj_slant says:

    But how could any President stop it? Too many interests have a stake in continuing it.

    There’s the problem, Fred. Yet that statement was not qualified at all. And IMO, the President has very little to do with it.

  31. @Epaminondas

    I didn’t say that I was happy about it, just that this was the most likely scenario. In my dreams, I’d live in an American white ethnostate along the lines of Israel.

    Btw, I’m not anti semitic in a general sense. I think that their leaders are doing what they think is best for their people. Now, it happens to be that what their leaders think is best for their people is the utter destruction of my people, but that’s just the way war work. If it helps my army to destroy a city, I destroy that city. That’s what Jewish leaders are doing to whites.

    It’s not their job to stand up for whites. Whites need to stand up for their own people. Sadly, that’s not the case at the moment. Believe me, I’ve tried in my own life, and I’ve caught a tremendous amount of shit – and visible amount of hatred from my fellow whites – for my beliefs.

    Whites just aren’t ready at the moment. Maybe they will be in the future. Maybe not.

    • Replies: @Epaminondas
    , @rod1963
  32. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Christians are their own worst enemy. They are self-absorbed in guilt (aka “sin”), while the tribe are guilt free. And the tribe know which hot buttons to push. That’s why we’re divided.

    • Replies: @R7 Rocket
  33. Whatever says:
    @International Jew

    I was actually thinking the same thing. Just look at how much hate the Religious Freedom laws are getting, by the media. Looks like the only time it’s good for a State to use its sovereignty, is when it’s what the Liberals agree with.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  34. rod1963 says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The white elites have always been hostile or at least indifferent to the lower classes of whites if you look at our history, especially after the age of industrialization that give birth to the assembly line where 16 hour days were the norm.

    Sometimes they didn’t mind murdering us either if we got uppity with them in regards to labor rights.

    Really how can they even relate to us when they are born into wealth, go to private schools and Ivy League universities then into some lifetime sinecure where they never know work or what’s it like to come home beat and exhausted from a job and fear that they may lose everything if the plant shuts down.

    That said, things were doing pretty well for us until Clinton got into power. He(Robert Rubin and Rahm) changed everything. First he turned the Democrats from the party of the white working class to the party of white hating racists, gays and assorted kooks and upper class whites(whose values match the elites). The other things he did was cut a deal with big business with NAFTA that allowed American industry to send it’s work to Mexico and then Asia costing us millions of high paying jobs. Then came China PNTR that opened the flood gates to Chinese merchandise that put more Americans out of work, not to mention the loss of IP.

    As a result we went from a manufacturing economy to a service economy along with a gutted and now dying white middle-class. Our only claim to being a world power now is being the world’s reserve currency.

    Clinton didn’t do this himself, Wall Street and corporate execs all supported this form of treason. To them off-shoring made them richer than ever. Now with importing foreign workers they are replacing whats left of white America.

    The whites of course fled to the GOP, not knowing the GOP is the party of predatory country club whites and business types who don’t give a rats ass about anything but making money. The GOP paid lip service to them on social issues but repeatedly gang raped them on economic issues like trade, immigration and off-shoring. This is why they never lifted a finger to help the white middle-class since Clinton rolled into town.

    They are both in on our demise.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @KenH
  35. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Whatever

    Bad-mouthing from the media in no way compares to Obama sending a paramilitary division to force Fundamentalists to bake same-sex wedding cakes. Would he dare do that? What would the backlash look like? It would be interesting, to say the least. I suspect that’s a can of worms he’s not willing to open.

    • Replies: @Whatever
  36. MarkinLA says:
    @rod1963

    Clinton didn’t do this himself

    NAFTA was a Reagan initiative and was negotiated by GHWB under fast-track. Clinton couldn’t change it. He made “side deals” with Mexico first Congressmen in border states to get it ratified.

    I think Reagan’s looking the other way while business sent buses to Mexico to help break unions, amnesty for illegals, shilling for guest worker visas, and bringing in “refugees” from central America also helped.

  37. tsotha says:
    @MarkinLA

    More and more blacks are figuring out that Hispanic immigration is desired by business owners to cut blacks out of the job market.

    I wish that were true, but I have yet to see any evidence. As black people in Southern California are discovering, Mexicans can’t be mau maued. They don’t care about black people, they don’t care what black people think, and they don’t hire black people. And yet… you don’t hear anything from black politicians, clergy, or filmmakers.

    Were I a black person, particularly a low or no skilled black person, the influx of Hispanics would be tolerable only with the expectation cradle to grave government benefits.

  38. j says: • Website

    Very good article and describes current tendencies, but America is not falling apart. It is a very big country and the central government tolerates a wide range of regional differences or deviations. In fact, it always did. Examples? The Mormons practiced of polygamy – strictly forbidden by federal laws – for many years. The film industry moved to California, where copyright laws were unenforced. And so on. Mississipi may become some kind of AfroAmerican autonomy where book laws are enshrined but in practice are ignored, possibly because the population cannot read nor understand them. America can live with that. From its very start, America was a loose federation of very different units led by New England WASPs, and so it will be in the next hundred years.

  39. Whatever says:
    @Anonymous

    He doesn’t have to, he has Federal judges who would do it for him. Haven’t you heard of all of the people being forced to shut down their businesses? Hopefully, these Religious Freedom laws can help prevent that, and hopefully this sparks some sort of nullification/secession revolution.

  40. R7 Rocket says:
    @rod1963

    “SEAL Teams and Army Special ops to dispose of them”

    If the state happens to have Minuteman Silos in it or an SSBN base on it,the state would just overrun the ICBM silos then. So much for Special Forces.

  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss

    Bliss, that wasn’t a ‘threat’, but an ‘observation’. You really should know the difference.

  42. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    There is already a move afoot for a Constitutional convention. If an amendment to the Constitution is passed that names a list of states that are no longer states of the union and it is duly ratified by the required number of states for passage, then the federal government has no legal basis for pursuing action against them because it is now constitutional for them to leave.

  43. R7 Rocket says:
    @Epaminondas

    Christians are their own worst enemy. They are self-absorbed in guilt (aka “sin”)

    Christians have an annoying tendency to “turn the other cheek” at inappropriate times. This problem is as old as the Templars and The Knights of Malta.

  44. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I know that we have a set of laws to obey in this country, but as I watch the news and when I read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution I am afraid that we have passed the point where we could easily return to a Constitutionally-based republic and that the only way to restore it would be by a means that we all don’t really want: A Civil War.

    Those that believe in the rule of law HAVE to put a stop to lawlessness. Quote:
    “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    But before anyone claims that ‘no one in their right mind wants despotism’, think about what we will have if we continue down a road that has diverted from ‘government of the people, by the people, for the people.’ We don’t have that now. We have all abdicated that by continuing with our petty little lives devoted to electronics, reality TV, and endless after school soccer practices and play dates. And I hate (not really) to tell you all this, but we are, given the duplicity and spinelessness of the Republican establishment under Boehner, beyond the point of no return where we could have reverted to a just government using the political/legal process. And now I will say the one thing that no one really wants to say:

    When you allow millions of people, mostly those from Mexico and to a lesser degree Central and South America, who have been born and bred in a culture that accepts corruption, bribery, lack of democracy, and does not understand or care about the Constitution and what it means, and breeds at a rate higher than the majority population, a culture that despite its Catholic religion is steeped in liberalism and collectivism, it is only a matter of time until they subvert the reigning culture (whatever that is now) and replace it with that from which they originally fled.

    How many of you, Democrat or Republican, would like to wake up under the rules and laws of Mexico? Didn’t think so. But if you are FOOL enough to think that it won’t happen you will learn within a generation or two that it WILL happen. And, if you think that the political elites (mostly white, non-Hispanic by the way) of the Democrat party, who are playing the long game of political majority engineering, will be able to ride the political waves and stay at the wheel to steer the boat, then you are a moron.

    It is time to wake up. Both parties are using us. We need to sweep both of them away and go back to the original intent of the Constitution. The liberals and RINOs won’t go quietly, but they must go. The best way to do this would be to institute term limits to destroy the ambitions of the political class. But it has to be done by some means. I hope we wake up soon. I hope I am wrong and it is not too late!

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Good article, Fred.

    Comments were worth wading thru only because of the last one by ConstitutionOrNothing; excellent comment, sir!

    Sadly I do agree with you, and fear that it may be too late. That last election turned out to be a meaningless landslide. The ‘good’ guys won and won big; so the bad guys skedaddle out o’ town, a’feerd fer their lives, right? Well, no. Those bad guys just carry right on, business as usual, and baby Boehner didn’t even try to look embarrassed about letting it all go on.

    That’s when I realized that the Rule of Law is now gone. We are like Mexico. Our bribes are generally more sophisticated, true, but our system, like Mexico’s is corrupt and beyond repair.

    Our constitution is now meaningless. Just beautiful words; like any mantra, those words are devoid of meaning, but they sound nice and we can all look at them and pretend that they actually mean something, even though they don’t. It breaks my heart.

    Where are our champions? Where is the huge outcry, stirring the populace? Where are the angry gatherings, loudly speaking of tar, feathers and the application thereof?

    Please point me the way. Where are the people?

    Lost in soma, I suppose. So I despair.

  46. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Dear Citizen of a Silly Country: I don’t know if you are right, but you sound right. We already
    have the gated communities. The idea of being “American” has lost all meaning, and all the menial jobs are being taken by the Mexicans and Central Americans, for whom I have nothing but compassion. All the ones I know I am friends with, and interested in their struggles. When my house needed to be restuccoed some years back the white contractor (who was an indolent s.o.b) had an entirely Mex/C. American crew, led by one of the manliest men I’ve ever encountered in this country. I would have trusted this guy with my life. He knew who he was. A rare creature.
    This country’s white population has been mostly poor white trash, whose only claim to fame
    was that their skin was white, not black or brown. The people in our Congress are mostly poor white trash who became lawyers or figured out some way to make enough money to become influential. After the period of the Eastern aristocrats becoming president (start with A. Jackson maybe), they’ve been poor white trash. Think of Lyndon Baines Johnson, the poor white trash
    politician par excellence, described with such accuracy and brilliance in Robert A Caro’s biographies. LBJ was as “American” as one can get.
    Face it! Everyone who comes here comes to “get rich,” which means to do as much exploitation of others as one can figure out how to get away with. But no matter how rich they become, they always sink to the lowest common denominator of general stupidity. There is now no other notion of America except “let me get mine while I devote myself to trivial amusements, while I enjoy watching the US military bomb someone back to the Stone Age on t.v.”

  47. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Is it possible for the United States to break up, either de facto or formally?

    Yes but they’ll try a gulag first and they can last a long time.

  48. Patriot says:

    Being from South Africa where a once prosperous and successful Christian civilisation is now a black Communist hellhole I read this article, along with the comments, with some interest. While there are some differences, principally in the scale, there are a number of similarities that may be worth noting.

    It is not without reason that the liberals and the Communists dumb down education; the unwashed and illiterate masses are quite satisfied with a new electronic gadget and the live broadcast of another circus act. The finer things in life – like freedom, a life goal, contemplation and wisdom – come a distant second to these distractions. As long as they are fooled into believing that their participation in a sham democracy through meaningless rigged voting, all is well in Lala Land. When push comes to shove, there will be no uprising, no revolution, no last stand by conservative Christians to retain their way of life, their constitution and their freedom. There is a concerted effort to destroy, to hollow out the core of those conservative values so that a strong wind will topple the old oak.

    The process is so pernicious, so subverted, so malignant that a dumbed down population, intent on the superficial geegaws of modern life, never wake up to the fact that the pot is coming to the boil. Until they are already cooked.

    When Rhodesia was sold out and became the living hell that Zimbabwe is today, white South Africans all said that South Africa has too many whites, its economy was many multiples larger than that of Rhodesia, a capitalistic economy would never allow it, our strategic sea route around the Cape and our bountiful mineral resources too important to the West that it could never happen here.

    America today stands where South Africa stood 20 – 25 years ago. Predictions indicate that whites in America will be a minority within the decade. Once that tipping point is reached – some may argue that it has already been reached given the numbers and influence of white liberals and Communists – there is no turning back. The process accelerates and deteriorates rapidly. Soon, as some commentators here have said, white Americans will find themselves living in a version of Third World decay.

    It seems impossible, unreal at times. If I look back 30 – 40 years, it seems surreal that the South Africa that I grew up in has become my greatest fear. A country where the government is totally alien to me, is rabidly against everything I am and have. A country where nothing, from the postal service to the hospitals, from schools to police departments, to government departments, infrastructure like water treatment plants, roads, industries even the national power generation utility, any longer works. South Africa was a giant on the African continent and even in the Southern Hemisphere a mere 25 – 30 years ago. Today it is a hollowed out shell of its former self, with only the Revenue Service working to 100% efficiency.

    This is what is staring America in the face. Yes, it is larger, yes it has a larger percentage of whites than non-whites, yes the level of education of those whites is arguably higher. But never underestimate how fast things change once the tipping point has been reached.

    America has unbridled and actively encouraged immigration of specifically non-whites. If I – as a white person – wanted to emigrate to America and contribute something worthwhile to it’s economy, it’s like to trying to break into Fort Knox, for all intents and purposes impossible.

    You have no freedom of speech, no free press, a sham democracy, expensive wars all over the globe, a very real threat and active campaign to break the dollar’s stranglehold as a world reserve currency. It is bankrupt, both financially and morally, it is despised by an ever greater number of countries around the globe. It is rotten from inside, corruption, nepotism, crime and gangsterism on a grand scale at the very top levels of government and society are rife.

    The number of American citizens aware of this worrying fact becomes smaller with each passing year. The time and opportunity to turn the ship around grows less as each day passes. I don’t wish the heartache and sorrow of seeing a once proud country with high morals and Christian values down in the mire.

    I speak from first hand experience.

    • Replies: @Hrw-500
    , @anonymous
  49. Corvinus says:

    “Three major racial blocs eye each other with fear and hostility.”


    According to the race baiters like Al Sharpton and yourself, yes.

    “The hard left controls the media and government against the desires of much of the country”

    Leave it to conservative media to spin how the radicals within the Democratic Party have control of the narrative. Now, MUCH of the country? Depends on key issues. Americans split over whether businesses must serve same-sex couples. Americans generally favor (52%) gun ownership than gun control (48%).

    “Feminists make war on men, and destroy the schools and universities.”

    Manospherists make war on men, and embrace white patriarchy. See how easy it is to be a fear monger?

    “Unless Washington does something dramatic and soon, the states will learn that they can simply ignore the feds.”

    Hardly. The attorney generals for Nebraska and Oklahoma have actually filed a federal lawsuit contending that Washington and Colorado are in violation of federal law. Moreover, federal prosecutors have begun targeting legislation that has legalized medical cannabis and decriminalized low levels of marijuana use for recreational purposes.

    “Latinos either have or will soon have a demographic majority, which means that eventually they will have a voting majority.”

    [Laughs] YOU are married to one!

    “The consequence, now inevitable, is that the Southwest will become more Mexican than American.”

    “Basically, the U.S. will become just another crappy South/Central American country where a small white/Asian elite rule over a mostly dirt-poor black and brown population.”

    The same argument was proffered by nativists when the Irish and Germans came to our shores in the 1850’s and when the Italians came through Ellis Island in the 1890’s—they had considered these groups, socially, non-white! These fears never came to pass.

    “What can Washington do if states and regions simply go their own way?”

    Hey, everybody, the sky is falling!

    “The foundation was a largely uniform white, Christian, European culture which no one thought about because there was no reason to think about it. “

    Do members of this white, Christian, European culture (WCE) have the liberty to include other groups of people if WCE collectively agree to incorporate them through legal and social means?
    Or, are these whites “race traitors”?

    “This no longer occurs because (1) the new immigrants are not assimilable…”

    
Then what are all of these Central and South American immigrants doing in my school district, working in lawn care or health care, living in my neighborhood, and adhering to the laws of our land?

    “and (2) because the “old” core identity is villainized by the new power elite.”

    That “old” core identity considered of Europeans, Jews, and blacks.

  50. a black President and attorney general, probably from racial hostility to whites, are doing all they can to increase the Hispanic population of the US.

    Curious indeed, since Hispanics are (in general) far more hostile to blacks than they are to whites.

  51. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss

    Romney won 59 percent of the white vote

  52. Mr. Blank says:

    I used to laugh at people who talked about secession, but I’ve gradually come around to the view that it’s inevitable. I don’t know what kind of form it will take, but I’m reasonably sure of two things:

    1. It’s going to happen. Maybe not during my lifetime, but probably within the lifetime of my children. It’s just getting harder and harder to believe there’s some common, minimum set of core values that the 300 million+ souls in this country can all agree upon and rally around. I think a lot of people hunger for that — I think Obamamania back in 2008 was kind of an expression of that yearning — but it’s not something our current system is capable of delivering, and it grows more incapable with every passing year. At some point, one region or another is going to conclude that the differences can no longer be papered over and it’s pointless to even try.

    2. I doubt the eventual divorce will be as bloody and disastrous as it was the first time around. I’m from Dixie and I grew up on tales of the Civil War, and it is very, very difficult for me to envision modern Americans having the sand to seriously prosecute such a long and bitter struggle. It is hard to believe that the iron men of both the Union and the Confederacy could be found today. Even if they could be found, I see no evidence that our elites could furnish men like Grant, Lee, Stonewall or Lincoln to lead them.

    Like Fred, I suspect the disintegration will be slow and gradual, attaining de facto status long before it become de jure.

  53. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Patriot

    The blindness to reality is evident all over, even on this website, as one reads some comments by those who have become true believers in the fictitious multi-cult religion. Communists and liberal types did their best to undermine SA. However, what really brought it down were the efforts of the capitalist countries, US, Britain and other accomplices who by no means can be said to be communist. The capitalists preferred to deal with a corrupt and easily bought-off ANC and other Africans who live high on the hog from sales of national resources. By themselves the communists could do little to overthrow the state but the big capitalist countries could; in this there’s a cooperation between the two.

    • Replies: @Patriot
  54. Patriot says:
    @Hrw-500

    That demographic data makes interesting reading. Here in South Africa, the ANC government threw open our borders to every black in Africa to come hither, whether legally or otherwise. All enjoy the benefits of the socialistic system, funded mostly by the remaining white taxpayers. Free housing, power, water, social grants, medical treatment et al. Illegal blacks can obtain contracts from the government while white South Africans are legally – yes you read correctly – legally excluded from the economy to an ever greater extent.

    Sounds crazy, right? Welcome to a world where up is down, right is wrong and day is night. What does it matter that the white TFR is higher than all other non-whites, the black shortfall will be filled by illegal – soon to be legal – immigration. I believe that the objective of Obama’s immigration reform is to address exactly those demographic figures. With the cherry being that said immigrants will be living a royal life thanks to the long suffering American taxpayer.

    White South Africans have no chance any longer to turn the ship around, it has already run aground. My earnest hope and prayer is that enough conservative Christian Americans can wake up, can rally to the call to save their country. Before it is too late.

    “In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”
    Mark Twain

    • Replies: @Hrw-500
  55. Patriot says:
    @anonymous

    True, the capitalists are now keeping the Communistic ANC government in power and writing the screenplay for them.

    Crazy world we are living now.

  56. Hrw-500 says:
    @Patriot

    Good points and I read some posts from the blogger Mike Smith who’s from South Africa, give us more infos about the situation like this one from last February. http://mikesmithspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.ca/2015/02/the-signs-of-coming-revolution-in-south.html We have had yet to see if some others predictions of South African Nicolaas “Siener” Van Rensburg will come true (I wonder if the author and novelist Tom Kratman was inspired a bit by this when he written his dystopian novel “Caliphate” where he mentionned a resurgent South Africa in the 22th Century?).

    However with the demographic of having less and less American taxpayers. Not all immigrants might have a royal life and with the cake or the pie getting smaller and smaller. They might have some fights between various groups of immigrants about who wants to get the bigger part of the cake (or pie)? Probably what Allan Wall referred in his article.

  57. Corvinus says:

    “I used to laugh at people who talked about secession, but I’ve gradually come around to the view that it’s inevitable…”

    Not really, inevitable. More like a possibility that it probably won’t happen. We already have segregation in our country. People like in neighborhoods with people they prefer. A number of those neighborhoods just happen to be mixed—white, black, Hispanic, Asian–who get along fine.

    “white South Africans are legally – yes you read correctly – legally excluded from the economy to an ever greater extent.”

    The leftist racialist would say, “Well, what would you expect? You had your time, now you have to endure the consequences of your actions. So shut up and take your punishment.” The rightest racialist would say, “See, that is the reason why whites should govern, the darkies are savage.” Where do you fall?

    • Replies: @Patriot
  58. No doubt Soviets thought just as our leaders and many people do, that the nation would never break up. Than came the Fall of the Berlin Wall and the rest is history,

    We are doing a shade better but not by much and its perfectly possible that the US may come screeching to a halt or maybe just have a Junta along the way, something I noticed no one suggested .

  59. Patriot says:
    @Corvinus

    Oh I’m definitely in the latter group, without a doubt. The reason being I am living in a country that is living proof of your last statement. But then again I always knew that was the case, hence apartheid. When it comes to a choice between my own people, my own race and another, I will always choose for my own race. Always.

    Not only for the obvious reason that they the my own flesh and blood, but because the European is the carrier of the Christian light in a dark world. Europeans have a compassion that is almost totally absent in dark races; a compassion for other races and for all living things. It is they who rush to their fellow man’s aid in times of need (war, famine, natural disasters); it is they who are the fathers of the Red Cross, SPCA, Salvation Army, National Audubon Society, the World Wildlife Fund, Children’s Aid Societies and their like. It is the European who – to their eternal detriment – are prepared to share the world with others. Sadly, they are not accorded the same courtesy by the dark races. When last did you see an African country make haste to assist in any manner at all during flooding, war, disease outbreaks, famine, earthquakes, flooding? The only gesture, hard wired into their genetics, is the cupped hand, begging for assistance from the self same race they despise with all their might.

    Blacks are always immeasurably worse off after they come under a government of their own: Rhodesia vs Zimbabwe, Angola, Mozambique, South Africa. Botswana may be an exception to the rule but their president has white blood in him. While obviously not widely reported by the MSM, many blacks in South Africa – some of them government officials – have publicly declared that education, health care, power generation, rail transport, postal services, the state of infrastructure and the economy were better under the apartheid government.

    While the lunatic leftist liberals foam at the mouth about racism, let’s look at some facts – as opposed to the liberal-owned MSM tripe that the majority of sheeple base their ranting on – about South Africa under the hated apartheid system.

    These figures are from a time period about five years before the Communistic government took power in 1994.

    * Per capita income for all races in 1983 was USD2450; 9 x higher than Mozambique, 4 x higher than Zambia, 3 x that of Zimbabwe and double that of all countries in the Southern African subcontinent.

    * Various forms of development aid to blacks outside the the independent tribal areas (homelands) totalled USD37 million in 1982 terms, an increase of 69% over the previous year. Total aid to these exclusively black areas in 1982 was USD54 million. The amount funded exclusively by white South Africans, in a time of severe economic sanctions against this country by the West that was largely to blame for an inflation rate of around 20% at that time.

    * If aid to the the homelands is included in the figures, USD85 million is the amount white South Africans gave to black South Africans in aid in 1982.

    * The apartheid government built ten Universities for blacks including Medunsa which is a unique medical university that turned out 200 highly qualified black doctors every year all at state costs, paid for by the white taxpayers. It also trained paramedics and nurses.

    * Between 1970 and 1994 the budget for black education was raised by about 30% per year every year. More than any other government department. In the period 1955 -1984 the amount of black school students increased 31 times from 35,000 to 1,096 000.

    * 65% of black South African children were at school compared to Egypt 64%, Nigeria 57%, Ghana 52%, Tanzania 50% and Ethiopia 29%.

    * Amongst the adults of South Africa, 71% could read and write (80% between the ages 12 and 22). Compare this to Kenya 47%, Egypt 38%, Nigeria 34% and Mozambique at 26%.

    * In South Africa, the whites built 15 new classrooms for blacks every working day, every year. At 40 children per class it meant space for an additional 600 black students every day. Most of these schools, along with libraries, community centres, municipal offices, were burnt down in the ‘80s and early ‘90s.

    * In 1985 there were 42,000 Blacks at 5 universities in South Africa, about the same amount at the universities of the homelands.

    * South Africa had 4,8 million whites and 18,2 million blacks in 1987. The whites paid 77% of the taxes and the blacks only 15%…despite this…56% of the government budget was spent on blacks.

    More here: http://www.faze.co.za/South%20Africa%20Truth/What%20White%20Apartheid%20did%20for%20Blacks.htm

    and here: http://praag.org/

    Today, whites under the heel of black ANC rule are legally excluded from ever increasing sectors of the economy; they are excluded from social welfare programs, despite funding them; private ownership is under threat and will in all likelihood disappear soon; our history, culture and economic livelihood is legally denied us with an active program under way to destroy all items of cultural significance including statues, museums, graves, monuments. All universities are now forcefully integrated with Afrikaners being actively denied a university lecturing in our mother tongue Afrikaans.

    As in the rest of the world, all whites in South Africa are good for is to fund their own demise.

  60. Corvinus says:

    “When it comes to a choice between my own people, my own race and another, I will always choose for my own race.”

    And, in the meantime, humanity suffers.

    “It is they who rush to their fellow man’s aid in times of need.”

    These groups would shudder to think of the destruction that had been caused previously by their European brethren as a result of colonization and imperialism.

    “It is the European who – to their eternal detriment – are prepared to share the world with others.”

Share? More like exploit.

    “Blacks are always immeasurably worse off after they come under a government of their own.”

    With nearly four centuries of civil unrest at the hands of Europeans, why should this trend surprise you?

    “under the hated apartheid system.”

    Why does it surprise you that some South African blacks seek to jackboot their white oppressors who tormented them with their imposed racial system? Tit for tat.

    “our history, culture and economic livelihood [destroyed]”.

    Irony is a bitch, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Patriot
  61. Patriot says:
    @Corvinus

    Hehehe, thank you for confirming for me your lack of reading comprehension. I gather you speak from first hand knowledge of the South African situation specifically and the African situation in general?

    No, I didn’t think so.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  62. KenH says:
    @rod1963

    Amen. I was still in college when NAFTA passed and believed all of Rush Limbaugh’s hype about how that bill would exchange the lower paying jobs for higher paying jobs and be a boon to the middle class while also enriching Mexican peasants and dissuading them from illegally immigrating into the U.S. Shortly after passage I came upon some horror stories about that “giant sucking sound” in the words of Ross Perot that began wrecking the lives of working class white Americans. Now Mexico has nearly 20 billionaires whereas before NAFTA they only had 1 and illegal immigration is worse than it’s ever been.

    The Republicans are nothing but amoral opportunists and stand for nothing except, perhaps, slavish devotion to the chamber pot of commerce, the Jewish people and to fight wars for Israel. They’re all about political expediency which is why they’ve largely signed on to amnesty and abdicated to the radical left on most cultural issues. All to the chagrin and detriment of the white working and middle class.

  63. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Patriot

    You may as well save yourself the aggravation of trying to explain anything; it’s like attempting to communicate with a donkey. There’s plenty like that out there with similar brain-rot, their head up you know where; reality isn’t their thing.

    • Replies: @Patriot
  64. Patriot says:
    @anonymous

    Yep, they are the virus that got us where we are today.

  65. KenH says:

    The USA, through mass third world immigration, has been transformed into a hodgepodge of mutually antagonistic racial groups. Long time control of domestic policy and school curricula by the radical left wing has transformed whites into a guilt ridden and raceless people many of whom are hostile to their own groups interests or at best, indifferent to them. Whites are now the untouchables of American society.

    Like others have correctly pointed out, the government would respond with overwhelming force, probably lethal, if anyone (white) tried to ignore any civil rights laws. It just all depends on what’s being ignored. States and localities can blatantly ignore immigration law as “racist” and the system cheers wildly, but if other localities attempt to enforce said laws they are quickly rebuked by the anti-white Soviets in Washington and threatened with prosecution, jail time or worse…….simply for obeying the laws.

    Same with voting laws. The system smiles approvingly at well documented cases of voter fraud yet threatens any state that dares to restore election integrity with federal lawsuits.

    Not sure if America will end with bang or a whimper, but it will definitely end as no nation with this much racial, cultural, religious and political diversity can endure unless by brute force such as we have now with our massive police state. But this won’t last forever.

    There could be some mini bangs especially between blacks and whites and blacks and latinos. Blacks have a tendency to alienate and anger just about everyone they come in contact with.

  66. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “You may as well save yourself the aggravation of trying to explain anything; it’s like attempting to communicate with a donkey. There’s plenty like that out there with similar brain-rot, their head up you know where; reality isn’t their thing.”

    “Yep, they are the virus that got us where we are today.”

    Exactly. Because we all know the darkies need Europeans to lead them since they are small, violent children.

    “The USA, through mass third world immigration, has been transformed into a hodgepodge of mutually antagonistic racial groups.”

    Definitely. Because on a daily basis, American blacks, whites, Asians, and Muslims make consistent efforts to tear each other limb from limb, per media reports.

  67. map says:
    @Anonymous

    Oh, I got news for the baby boomers. What they have to look forward to is being dehydrated and starved to death in nursing homes staffed by the minorities they love so much.

  68. map says:
    @rod1963

    I find it really hilarious hearing about the Special Forces. They have the same mystique as the Israeli Army, even though both of them cut their teeth fighting Arabs. Hardly a vindicating showing.

    In fact, I’d say the only reason why SEALs are effective is because the Muslims don’t use dogs.

  69. @International Jew

    As far as I’m concerned, you win the thread with that point.

    With regard to Mr Reed:
    In a globalizing world, the very idea of sovereignty seems less important that it once did.

    Yeah, sure; but how do you even define yourself without any borders, or sovereignty? Where does that liberty go? What defends it any longer, when it’s been under assault from Washington, most cash-strapped states who blew out their budgets on teacher and police pensions, when there’s no there there anymore?

  70. cjc says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I agree with your point that our leftist dominated Federal government will crack down mercilessly on anything that they disapprove of.

  71. @International Jew

    “All your examples of nullification and getting-away-with-it-ism are of causes already on the ‘right side of history’”

    Eh, I took it mean since the other side already does it, we may as well too. It’s not necessarily the right way of doing things, but if doing the right thing just gets you ostracized, minimalized, and leads to further subjugation, then the system is broke already.

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