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8 U.S. Code § 1324a: (1)In general It is unlawful for a person or other entity—

(A) to hire, or to recruit or refer for a fee, for employment in the United States an alien knowing the alien is an unauthorized alien (as defined in subsection (h)(3))….

Oh God. Oh God. It’s Hillary or Trump. The first, a loathsome Gorgon paddling about in the bubbling corruption and fetor of Washington, a political hooker in a plastic miniskirt crooning “I’ll do anything for a donation to my foundation.” On this soiled caryatid we are going to rest the weight of the nation?

But…Trump? A huckstering bully growling, “I can whip any man in this bar.” He doesn’t seem to have looked around the bar very carefully. I’ll vote for him because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate, but…but….

I read with astonishment his proposed policy toward Mexico. Truculence, ignorance, carney showmanship, and a weird view of Mexico. He sees it as both an enemy country and as a malign being, sentient, diabolical, bent on hurting the United States. This seems to parallel his approach to the rest of the world.

His goal regarding Latinos–the prevention of illegal immigration and the repatriation of illegal immigrants–is commendable. A country has the right to determine who enters. Some of his plans would effect this end. Yet he seems to have little understanding of the problem and believes that Mexico, which he despises, is the cause.

How so? America’s immigration mess is entirely self-inflicted. In 1965 the United States changed its laws to encourage immigration. Mexico didn’t change America’s laws. Ever since, American businessmen have knowingly, eagerly hired illegal immigrants in large numbers and exerted influence to maintain the influx. The American government under Obama encourages illegal immigration, and former administrations have looked the other way. The Democrats push for naturalization explicitly to get the votes. States give illegals driver’s licenses, health care, and schooling. “Sanctuary cities” openly defy laws as, again, does the federal government. Border patrols have been ordered, by Obama, virtually to stand down.

None of this was done by Mexico.

He is mad about the use of welfare by illegals. Trump quote: “U.S. taxpayers have been asked to pick up hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, housing costs, education costs, welfare costs, etc.”

How much sense does this make? America offers these things and then complains when they are accepted. If you don’t want illegal aliens on welfare, don’t give them welfare. Is this a difficult concept? Why is Mexico to blame for America’s stupidity?

Yet we have Trump eagerly planning ways to punish Mexico.

From his web page: “There is no doubt that Mexico is engaging in unfair subsidy behavior that has eliminated thousands of U.S. jobs….”

Fact: American businesses have moved factories to Mexico. Mexico did not force them to do this. In the United States, American businessmen intentionally give jobs to illegals. The illegals accept them. They do not “take” them. How could they? At gunpoint?

Trump is either dishonest, naive, or thinks like a ten-year-old.

Then we have: “Mexico has taken advantage of us in another way as well: gangs, drug traffickers and cartels have freely exploited our open borders and committed vast numbers of crimes inside the United States.”

Always Mexico is a conscious, malevolent being. Again Trump is blankly ignorant.

Fact: “Mexico” does not sell drugs in the United States. The cartels do. Mexico cannot control the cartels (as neither can the United States), which dominate large parts of the country, fight battles against the army and police, kill reporters and the families of soldiers known to take part in operations against them.

The cartels do far more harm to Mexico than to the United States. Wikipedia: “By the end of Felipe Calderón‘s administration (2006–12), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000.[ Estimates set the death toll above 120,000 killed by 2013, not including 27,000 missing.””

That’s taking advantage of the US? Mexican cops, soldiers, and reporters are dying in America’s drug war. Americans are not.

If Trump doesn’t know the foregoing, he is a political gerbil proposing policy without bothering to do minimal homework. If he does know it, he is a con man.

Mexicans occasionally ask, “If Americans don’t want drugs, why do they buy them?” The market for drugs exists in the first place because Americans very much want drugs: high-school students want them, often middle-schoolers, college kids, high-dollar lawyers, Congressmen on the Hill doing lines of coke at parties, liberals, conservatives, libertarians, the residue of the Sixties. Washington doesn’t want Americans to have their drugs. It is America’s problem.

Trump’s plan to require proof of citizenship to remit money to Latin America makes sense and would be effective. So would eVerify. No reason exists to make life easy for criminal aliens–which, since illegal entry into America is a crime, includes all illegals. But he is going to force Mexico to, grrr, woof, to pay for his border wall, the brown bastards.

Quote: “It’s an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. “

This is extortion—he could equally say “Give us fifty billion or we will bomb Guadalajara.” We could profitably use the approach on Canada. It embodies his curious notion that Mexico has responsibility to enforce America’s immigration laws when the US makes no effort to enforce them.

Which would be easy, except that America doesn’t really want to do it.

It is illegal to hire illegals. See USC above. Heavy penalties are on the books. Nowhere, as far as I can determine, does Trump suggest applying those penalties to CEOs, farmers, rich women with illegal maids, and construction firms.

ORDER IT NOW

Leading a few dozen employers in handcuffs to the paddy wagon would have an immediate effect. Make it a rebuttable presumption that if more than ten percent of a work force are criminally in the United States, the employer knows it. In the case of corporations, deny federal contracts to companies convicted to hiring criminal aliens. As President in control of the Justice Department, Trump could begin enforcing the laws on his first day in office.

If Trump won’t move against criminal employers–if you break the law, you are a criminal, and hiring illegals is against the law–how can one regard him as more than a grandstanding opportunist?

Over and over, the pugnacity, the threatening: Quote: “Again, we have the leverage so Mexico will back down.” Over and over, if we do this, it will hurt Mexico (or China in other statements) more than it will hurt us. We have the leverage, the power. We can do what we want to them.

What if Mexico didn’t back down?

Here we have fertile ground for unintended and unpredictable consequences. There are things that governments cannot do and stay in power. Caving in to extortion may be one. The demand to pay for a wall would be a “Kiss my ass, Pedro” moment. It is clearly intended as such. If Mexico said “No” and Trump blocked remittances, his ego being threatened, it would be seen as a war on Mexico, Mexicans, and Latinos in general. Which it would be.

There are at least fifty-five million Latinos in the United States. Most are legal and not going anywhere. How wise is it for the President to attack them as Latinos, to describe them in insulting and inaccurate terms, to blame them for things they haven’t done, and create antagonism between the US and Mexico? All of this thrills white nationalists, many of whom seem to want revenge as much as they want an end to immigration. But America probably doesn’t really need another huge, hostile, self-aware racial group. Perhaps Trump should avoid creating one.

Also worth noting is that Mexico is not the banana republic of popular imagination. It is a major trading partner of the US, a nation of about 120 million, the first or second economy in Latin America depending on what Brazil is doing at the moment, with a rapidly expanding middle class. It is also host to enormous investment by American firms. For example, Ford is about to build a $1.6 billion plant here. The Donald’s school-yard-bully approach plays well with many of his constituents, but making enemies to the south is not going to help either country.

But this is a grown-up consideration. We are talking about national politics.

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  1. “I’ll vote for him because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate, but…but….”

    I’m glad that I am not American and don’t have to vote for either of the candidates. If I had to choose I too would vote for Donald Trump, the damage is likely to be mainly confined to the US. Clinton might start a thermonuclear war and destroy the future of our entire species.

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  2. Dear Quisling, Mexicans have Mexican politicians to take their part. In America, we’d like politicians who take our part.

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    • Replies: @Rurik

    In America, we’d like politicians who take our part.
     
    exactly!

    Fred froths that we must not blame "Mexico" for what some Mexicans do


    Always Mexico is a conscious, malevolent being. Again Trump is blankly ignorant.
     
    but then goes on to blame Americans for what "America" does..

    America offers these things and then complains when they are accepted.
     
    when he says "America", what he's talking about are the scumfucks in our fecal government, and the greedy scum running international corporations, neither of which represent most Americans.

    And that is the point. We'd like for someone to finally represent what most Americans (of all races) want. And that is secure borders and an end to the drug war madness.

    If Mexicans are not responsible for what the cartels do (and they're not), then neither are Americans responsible for what the psychotic, mass-murdering war criminals in Washington DC do. Duh

    But Fred is myopic to this truth. And defends Mexicans (who are blameless, [at least the ones not raping and murdering Americans]), but tosses blameless Americans under the bus for what "America" does, as if we Americans had even the tiniest voice over what our government does.

    I agree that the onus for the problem of illegal aliens belongs on the American government, who refuses to do their job. But Trump finally represents a will to reverse that insanity.

    He also wants to stop the Endless WarⓊ and implement sanity in our trade deals and do a lot of other really good things.

    For that and because, as Fred mentions just how bad the gorgon would be, I'm also willing to look beyond the things about Trump that I also find quite troubling. (waterboarding, etc..)

    , @Olorin
    Precisement and Occamesque.
  3. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I too have wondered why Trump talks so stupid about Mexico. My best guess is he is pandering to the many Americans (like me) who have lost jobs to Mexicans here and in Mexico. I’m not mad at Mexicans myself. I sort of like them actually. But I can understand how others might want to hear some tough talk against them. If elected I believe Trump will “make a deal” with Mexico. And I believe it will be better for both countries than the deal we now have. Trump has said he doesn’t like NAFTA which is a disaster for both countries. When this better deal is done Trump can beat his chest. It’s OK with me.

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  4. The Amerindians streaming North actually hamper productivity gains and will be disabled from hard labor by age 50 if not age 40. They are good at fathering children, and they and their entire families will be net tax consumers all their lives.

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  5. Invasion (aka “immigration”) is the problem, and, no, I don’t primarily blame the Mexican for this; however, he and his family may well bear a good deal of the brunt of the reaction from us “angry white men” when we decide enough is enough! All over the West, many are waking up to the fact that diversity and multi-culturalism aren’t objective goods, and that Englishmen ought to be the chief components of England, Swedes in Sweden, Frenchmen in France, and Americans in America! That doesn’t make any of us superior to others, but we have a right to our distinctiveness and our homes!

    Trump is indeed vulgar, and he won’t solve the problems we have at the most basic levels, but he at least does address some fundamental truths that have been forgotten by our ruling class, who view a nation as nothing more than a market and cash cow for the maintenance of their power and profit!

    As for Ms. Clinton, one hopes that at the very least, this next election will make her political career go “into that good night,” if not gently, then finally!

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  6. Leading a few dozen employers in handcuffs to the paddy wagon would have an immediate effect.

    Meh. Like most racketeers, that’s just a work hazard for them, and already factored in.
    What might encourage les autres is outright confiscation of the land, proceeds of immoral earnings or summat. Then sell it off in minimally-viable parcels to native homesteaders or developers, for Actual Cash. Maybe even to already in-situ Mexicans, if they’ll settle for the right passport, language and laws, and stay put.

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  7. The USA could invite the populations of Canada and Mexico to enter the land.
    With upgrades in infrastructure I see no reason the US population can not grow to half a billion within a decade or two and a billion people in a few decades more.

    Calorie production seems efficient enough for sustenance.

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    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    invite the populations of Canada ..
     
    Wow. A land border with China. It'd save a heck of a lot on shipping all that junk over. God save the Queen!
    , @Realist
    What's the up side?
    , @bomag

    Calorie production seems efficient enough for sustenance.
     
    I overheard that the other day on the chicken farm. The overlords were making our cages even smaller and packing in even more of us because they had the calories...

    It would be nice if us chickens could have a say about our living conditions. Some of us would like a little more room in which to move around.
    , @Ace
    For extra credit, expand on "should invite."
  8. Mexico should absolutely be held accountable for their role in encouraging illegal immigration, but I’d settle for deportation and a wall (whether it’s paid for by them is immaterial).

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  9. Oh, Fred, for goodness’ sake, you’re whacked on this one. Mexicans both here and there are not going to start a war over payment for the wall. Holding remittances hostage is a good way to get the money. If their hand is forced, they will pay.

    I know an American Baptist missionary to the Aztecs whose car got impounded in Mexico until he paid his bribes. When the local crooks called upon the Federales as enforcers and there was no other recourse, he paid, and here are your keys back, Señor, y gracias for being so reasonable about this. Same thing.

    Mexico is, if anything, an object lesson in very, very bad government. They’ve had a kind of mafia in power since the days of Cortés. Let the whole business of corrupt government breed for long enough, and your country will turn in to a sewer like Mexico. (I’ve been there, yes; it’s a sewer, and I nearly kissed the ground when I got back to McAllen.) Let the corruption keep going till it reaches completion, and the bottom level of third-world squalor will be your portion. Our government is bad; theirs is worse. If our federal mafia puts the arm on theirs, sooner is better, sez I.

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  10. The core message- that there is nothing in America’s current problems that is the fault of anyone other than Americans – is true and indisputable, whether the issue is the drug war, trade and manufacturing, or illegal immigration. America’s business and political elites have made all the decisions in their own interests on all of those issues, and plenty of less-than-elite Americans have gone along in their own interests.

    It’s a pity Trump is less than an ideal candidate to convey that message, and his rhetoric has mostly indulged the American habit of blaming others [like a ten-year old]. But he hasn’t ignored the real, domestic causes altogether, and he seems like the only candidate likely even to try to do anything on illegal immigration.

    And there is the point MarkU makes- Trump is on the whole less likely to waste American lives overseas or provoke any additional large-scale wars in the Middle East or Asia. So there’s that.

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  11. What a load of twaddle. The United States does not offer welfare to illegal aliens, the illegals use fake and stolen identification to obtain the welfare. That is a crime, Fred.

    Crossing our border illegally is a federal crime, thus rendering them all felons and federal fugitives. The solution is to make E-Verify mandatory for all businesses in the US and hefty fines along with a revocation of business licenses for offending employers. Illegals caught receiving welfare with fake/stolen identities should prosecuted and subsequently deported after they have paid for their crime of stealing someone else identity.

    That would cause about half of them to self deport, if not more. Stop their means of income. Eventually have Mexican guest workers would be ok once strict enforcement had been implemented.

    We owe them nothing.

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    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    Crossing our border illegally is a federal crime, thus rendering them all felons and federal fugitives.
     
    This is news to me. Can someone provide the statute making illegal crossing a felony?
    , @Ace
    That's a good point about not providing welfare to illegals. However, some states provide in-state tuition to illegals and federal law requires ER services to be offered to illegals. Our federales would also rather go blind than crack down on the use of forged documents so in effect we do offer welfare to illegals. They just must go through the intermediate step of acquiring false documents.

    Our ridiculous anchor baby provisions also create an inducement for illegals to give birth and then, I presume, the newly minted "citizen" is the entering wedge whereby his family is fast tracked for legal residence and, I presume, welfare without the need for forged documents.

    On Fred's point that Trump might create a "huge, hostile, self-aware racial group," allow me to point out, Fred, that we already have that in spades. See MeCHa, La Raza, MALDEF, and that charming photo of the young Mexican lad grabbing his crotch and giving the finger to the photographer.

    Also, Mexico is more than happy to allow safe passage for Central Americans on their Train of Death so that the dreamers can flood into our country. Mexico also publishes a pamphlet on how to make it to El Norte and actively pushes dual citizenship for Mexicans here and encourages Mexicans here to retain their allegiance to Mexico and combine against the gringo.

    Mexico's also deeply invested in keeping the flow of remittances going. It's true that it is all 100% our fault for tolerating and enabling illegal immigration but I fail to see why Mexico's attitude toward us can't be fairly characterized as a grande *** Ustedes.
  12. Let us state the obvious- there are plenty of Mexican Nationals in American Jails.

    https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_citizenship.jsp

    They can build a wall, one day at a time, 20 feet high- across the southern border- there are 25,000 inmates subject to the ability to work on this wall. We could easily scrape another 100k of them out of our state prisons.

    Now, who say’s Mexico won’t build a wall?

    Reduce the sentence by two days for each day worked, and when the sentence is over, out they go.

    The inability to see that we have plenty of laws that are simply being ignored shows how dumb the media has become in this country.

    For instance, a real national ID rollout timed to the 2020 census would be the final part of the solution- with genetic databank.

    No real ID, then you must be investigated and deported, or given a real id upon contact with the government.

    It is orwellian, but it will end so much scamming and corruption here.

    Deporting millions can happen, and when Europe burns from their idiot level stance on immigration of the third world, we will shut the doors.

    As for our multicultural elite morons, well, they can sit there in San Francisco and complain, but the fact is this country is going to turn to internal problems and stop policing the world.

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  13. Fred – You seem to be saying that in a confrontation between the US and Mexico, Latino US citizens would not be loyal to the US.

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    • Replies: @The Grate Deign
    These people dang sure ain't loyal to the USA.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJGVIi31Ntw
    , @The Plutonium Kid
    Obviously, some of them wouldn't be.
    , @dahoit
    Mexican flags in LA sure underline that.
    Screw that shite.It got Trump ten million more votes.
  14. I live in Las Vegas, and my opinion of Mexicans has been lowered by their proximity to me. They are in general not good, intelligent and moral people. They must go, even the legal ones. Laws and legal status can be changed.

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    The talk of building a wall makes me wonder if we have really thought the problem through. Although the Mexican birth rate has dropped from 23 per thousand in 2000 to 19 per 1000 in 2014, that rate is still incredibly high compared to the birth rate of 13.4 per thousand in the United States in 2014. People do not ask to be born; indeed they have no choice in the matter. After they are born, however, they will need space, food, water, etc., and they will go wherever they can find the most of it at the best price. All building a wall will do is emphasize the fact that the pickings are best on the other side. This could use a little more thought.

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    • Replies: @artichoke
    No, to keep them out, you keep them out. Not leave it open and hope they don't have the resolve to cross.

    You are making the same argument Obama makes for why we need more Muslim immigration, not less, to solve our Muslim problem. With such a solution, when it becomes too late and the nation has finally turned brown, just try getting your money, or your country, back from him. He'll say it was a mistake, and chuckle.
  16. @Willem Hendrik
    The USA could invite the populations of Canada and Mexico to enter the land.
    With upgrades in infrastructure I see no reason the US population can not grow to half a billion within a decade or two and a billion people in a few decades more.

    Calorie production seems efficient enough for sustenance.

    invite the populations of Canada ..

    Wow. A land border with China. It’d save a heck of a lot on shipping all that junk over. God save the Queen!

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  17. “This is extortion ….”

    Call it withholding tax to cover income taxes or a pre-payment on the fees that should be paid for a valid work-permit and make it creditable when the apropriate filings are made.

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  18. Fred, you touched on this issue, but the crux of the matter is that you can’t expect employers to behave in one way when the government behaves the opposite way. Trump should propose the following:
    1. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship. If at least one of your parents isn’t here legally, you’re not a citizen. Tourist visas don’t count. At least one parent has to have at least a green card.
    2. A national implementation of California’s late lamented Prop 187. To defuse civil liberties concerns, you could delete the Orwellian “must inform the INS” parts and just say, no government agency at any level may use taxpayer funds to subsidize any illegal alien in any way, except for the purpose of deporting them. Again, make it an amendment if the social justice warriors in the judiciary refuse to back down.
    3. The ban on remittances would also help. Don’t make it conditional, just do it.
    While he’s at it, he needs to abolish NAFTA. Wouldn’t help the illegal immigration situation, but it would help to placate the pissed-off (and unemployed) white majority.

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    1. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship. If at least one of your parents isn’t here legally, you’re not a citizen. Tourist visas don’t count. At least one parent has to have at least a green card.
     
    No, if both parents are not natural born American citizens, then you are not a citizen. That solves most of our problems.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    2. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship.
    3. A national implementation of California’s late lamented Prop 187.
    4. The ban on remittances would also help.
     
    1. First, enforce existing laws. Jail, fine and confiscate property of employers of illegals.
    5. End all H1B visas NOW, and eject all holders of same.
    , @RadicalCenter
    I'd go further with your idea and hold that birthright citizenship doesn't apply unless BOTH parents must be in the USA legally with at least permanent residency and at least one of the parents is already a U.S. citizen. Enough already.
    , @Craig Nelsen
    1. Constitutional amendment not necessary. Birthright citizenship is simply a custom. Nothing more. An executive order could end it tomorrow. Retroactively. Even.

    2. Already illegal to provide non-emergency benefits to immigrants--illegal or otherwise. What we really need is the enforcement of the "affidavits of support" on LEGAL immigrants. Illegals shouldn't be here, period, so question of whether they get EBT cards or Section 8 housing is moot.

    3. Ban on remittances a dumb idea. If a foreign national is here legally, the money they earn is theirs to do with what they want. If they are here illegally, the question is, again, moot. Nafta? Yes, scuttle it.
  19. The Mexican government has been facilitating illegal immigration to the USA and interfering in the internal affairs of the USA to do so. It is past time to rap their knuckles and re-patriate their unwanted citizens.

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  20. @Fidelios Automata
    Fred, you touched on this issue, but the crux of the matter is that you can't expect employers to behave in one way when the government behaves the opposite way. Trump should propose the following:
    1. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship. If at least one of your parents isn't here legally, you're not a citizen. Tourist visas don't count. At least one parent has to have at least a green card.
    2. A national implementation of California's late lamented Prop 187. To defuse civil liberties concerns, you could delete the Orwellian "must inform the INS" parts and just say, no government agency at any level may use taxpayer funds to subsidize any illegal alien in any way, except for the purpose of deporting them. Again, make it an amendment if the social justice warriors in the judiciary refuse to back down.
    3. The ban on remittances would also help. Don't make it conditional, just do it.
    While he's at it, he needs to abolish NAFTA. Wouldn't help the illegal immigration situation, but it would help to placate the pissed-off (and unemployed) white majority.

    1. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship. If at least one of your parents isn’t here legally, you’re not a citizen. Tourist visas don’t count. At least one parent has to have at least a green card.

    No, if both parents are not natural born American citizens, then you are not a citizen. That solves most of our problems.

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  21. @Jim
    Fred - You seem to be saying that in a confrontation between the US and Mexico, Latino US citizens would not be loyal to the US.

    These people dang sure ain’t loyal to the USA.

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  22. @Svigor
    Dear Quisling, Mexicans have Mexican politicians to take their part. In America, we'd like politicians who take our part.

    In America, we’d like politicians who take our part.

    exactly!

    Fred froths that we must not blame “Mexico” for what some Mexicans do

    Always Mexico is a conscious, malevolent being. Again Trump is blankly ignorant.

    but then goes on to blame Americans for what “America” does..

    America offers these things and then complains when they are accepted.

    when he says “America”, what he’s talking about are the scumfucks in our fecal government, and the greedy scum running international corporations, neither of which represent most Americans.

    And that is the point. We’d like for someone to finally represent what most Americans (of all races) want. And that is secure borders and an end to the drug war madness.

    If Mexicans are not responsible for what the cartels do (and they’re not), then neither are Americans responsible for what the psychotic, mass-murdering war criminals in Washington DC do. Duh

    But Fred is myopic to this truth. And defends Mexicans (who are blameless, [at least the ones not raping and murdering Americans]), but tosses blameless Americans under the bus for what “America” does, as if we Americans had even the tiniest voice over what our government does.

    I agree that the onus for the problem of illegal aliens belongs on the American government, who refuses to do their job. But Trump finally represents a will to reverse that insanity.

    He also wants to stop the Endless WarⓊ and implement sanity in our trade deals and do a lot of other really good things.

    For that and because, as Fred mentions just how bad the gorgon would be, I’m also willing to look beyond the things about Trump that I also find quite troubling. (waterboarding, etc..)

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    • Replies: @dahoit
    To be a legal immigrant one must have dough,an education and knowledge of our political process.
    Unfortunately none of these illegals meet those basic requirements.
    It is suicide to accept all this self destruction of our nation,and the absolutely only person running who gets it is Trump.
    , @dahoit
    There is no doubt torture is immoral.But it has been,and will continue as long as humans exist,and has been a prime factor in police work,military matters and espionage for thousands of years.Look at your old war movies,film noir and whatever,torture is prevalent,and in some cases portrayed as noble,or at least non offensive if the victims are Nazis or some other demonized group,like the alleged terrorists .
    Its the US govts public embrace of it that is the worst aspect of it,as it shows our leaders hollow souls.
  23. @Son of Dixie
    What a load of twaddle. The United States does not offer welfare to illegal aliens, the illegals use fake and stolen identification to obtain the welfare. That is a crime, Fred.

    Crossing our border illegally is a federal crime, thus rendering them all felons and federal fugitives. The solution is to make E-Verify mandatory for all businesses in the US and hefty fines along with a revocation of business licenses for offending employers. Illegals caught receiving welfare with fake/stolen identities should prosecuted and subsequently deported after they have paid for their crime of stealing someone else identity.

    That would cause about half of them to self deport, if not more. Stop their means of income. Eventually have Mexican guest workers would be ok once strict enforcement had been implemented.

    We owe them nothing.

    Crossing our border illegally is a federal crime, thus rendering them all felons and federal fugitives.

    This is news to me. Can someone provide the statute making illegal crossing a felony?

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    • Replies: @The Grate Deign
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

    8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

    (a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
    Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

    (b) Improper time or place; civil penaltiesAny alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
    (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
    (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
    Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
    , @Son of Dixie
    Did you honestly think that crossing our border sans consent or legal paperwork was not a Federal crime?
  24. Fred is a turncoat and is doing what turncoats do – provide aid and comfort to a hostile group against his own group of origin.

    It is Fred’s function as a so called writer. Rather he is a propagandist working for the benefit of those who willfully break our laws and disrupt our economy.

    Shameful behavior.

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    My guess is that Fred is on the take from the Mehicans. I hate Mehico, and while I used to mostly like Mehicans, I am increasingly going in the opposite direction, on account of their behavior, their lack of couth and high culture, their lack of ethics and morality, their lack of respect for White Americans, and their overall ingratitude.
  25. @Willem Hendrik
    The USA could invite the populations of Canada and Mexico to enter the land.
    With upgrades in infrastructure I see no reason the US population can not grow to half a billion within a decade or two and a billion people in a few decades more.

    Calorie production seems efficient enough for sustenance.

    What’s the up side?

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  26. @Stephen R. Diamond

    Crossing our border illegally is a federal crime, thus rendering them all felons and federal fugitives.
     
    This is news to me. Can someone provide the statute making illegal crossing a felony?

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

    8 U.S. Code § 1325 – Improper entry by alien

    (a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
    Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

    (b) Improper time or place; civil penaltiesAny alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
    (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
    (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
    Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.

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  27. @Fidelios Automata
    Fred, you touched on this issue, but the crux of the matter is that you can't expect employers to behave in one way when the government behaves the opposite way. Trump should propose the following:
    1. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship. If at least one of your parents isn't here legally, you're not a citizen. Tourist visas don't count. At least one parent has to have at least a green card.
    2. A national implementation of California's late lamented Prop 187. To defuse civil liberties concerns, you could delete the Orwellian "must inform the INS" parts and just say, no government agency at any level may use taxpayer funds to subsidize any illegal alien in any way, except for the purpose of deporting them. Again, make it an amendment if the social justice warriors in the judiciary refuse to back down.
    3. The ban on remittances would also help. Don't make it conditional, just do it.
    While he's at it, he needs to abolish NAFTA. Wouldn't help the illegal immigration situation, but it would help to placate the pissed-off (and unemployed) white majority.

    2. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship.
    3. A national implementation of California’s late lamented Prop 187.
    4. The ban on remittances would also help.

    1. First, enforce existing laws. Jail, fine and confiscate property of employers of illegals.
    5. End all H1B visas NOW, and eject all holders of same.

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  28. ” It is a major trading partner of the US, a nation of about 120 million, the first or second economy in Latin America depending on what Brazil is doing at the moment, with a rapidly expanding middle class.”

    Brazil has a larger economy than Mexico. If Mexico has a rapidly expanding middle class, than Mexican Illegals in The U.S should all move back to their home country of Mexico and become middle class there. It is extremely easy to become middle class in Mexico right? So easy even a caveman can do it.

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  29. Bravo Fred – as I said in comment No. 95 on Buchanan’s piece “We do NOT blame the immigrants” (and nobody contradicted me).

    American society has become lazy and soft with a declining work ethic – this therefore has to be imported.

    However if Donald to makes it, look upon him as a very necessary dose of castor oil and an antidote to the alternative.

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    • Replies: @Unapologetic White Man
    The American work ethic is no such thing. The 3rd world Mehicans will work for wages far below what people in a first world country can afford. And the jobs that are taken by Mehicans are typically not done with as high a quality as when Whites do them.

    We do not need and have never need to import 3rd worlders. Rather, we need to deport them, and keep them out.

    Americans can do the work, and have done the work. I know that this is Unz, but stop insulting Americans. You're part of the problem.
    , @Anonymous
    "American society has become lazy and soft with a declining work ethic – this therefore has to be imported."


    If immigrants from Mexico and Central America come here to work, why do they howl like banshees when anyone even broaches the subject of cutting off their access to government handouts?

    The figure I've seen is that 73% of them are on some form of welfare, compared to 30% of the native population.
  30. Drugs (many of which kill our citizens) cannot cross the Mexican border without the tacit approval of the Mexican government. Mexico uses it mules of illegals to bring these drugs into all corners of America and that leads to the huge increase in homicides we are experiencing now.

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  31. Fred chose to post this anti American drivel on the week leading to Memorial Day Weekend.

    Good job, Fred!

    Do me a favor, stay in Mexico, don’t come back . We have enough turncoats here as it is.

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    He should at least have the dignity to renounce his citizenship
  32. @Stephen R. Diamond

    Crossing our border illegally is a federal crime, thus rendering them all felons and federal fugitives.
     
    This is news to me. Can someone provide the statute making illegal crossing a felony?

    Did you honestly think that crossing our border sans consent or legal paperwork was not a Federal crime?

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    IIRC it's a misdemeanor
    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    6 months for first offense = misdemeanor, not felony.
    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    Well, what I questioned was that it was a felony.

    However (since you request honesty), I really didn't know it's a crime.

    When the California admitted an illegal immigrant to the practice of law, one of the contentions is that no crime was involved. (On this Bar admission, see "Is being an unlawful immigrant moral turpitude? — California’s Sergio C. Garcia matter" - http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2014/01/107th-installment-is-being-unlawful.html)
  33. @MarkU
    "I’ll vote for him because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate, but…but…."

    I'm glad that I am not American and don't have to vote for either of the candidates. If I had to choose I too would vote for Donald Trump, the damage is likely to be mainly confined to the US. Clinton might start a thermonuclear war and destroy the future of our entire species.

    Trump won’t damage the U.S.

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  34. @Son of Dixie
    Fred is a turncoat and is doing what turncoats do - provide aid and comfort to a hostile group against his own group of origin.

    It is Fred's function as a so called writer. Rather he is a propagandist working for the benefit of those who willfully break our laws and disrupt our economy.

    Shameful behavior.

    My guess is that Fred is on the take from the Mehicans. I hate Mehico, and while I used to mostly like Mehicans, I am increasingly going in the opposite direction, on account of their behavior, their lack of couth and high culture, their lack of ethics and morality, their lack of respect for White Americans, and their overall ingratitude.

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  35. @macilrae
    Bravo Fred - as I said in comment No. 95 on Buchanan's piece "We do NOT blame the immigrants" (and nobody contradicted me).

    American society has become lazy and soft with a declining work ethic - this therefore has to be imported.

    However if Donald to makes it, look upon him as a very necessary dose of castor oil and an antidote to the alternative.

    The American work ethic is no such thing. The 3rd world Mehicans will work for wages far below what people in a first world country can afford. And the jobs that are taken by Mehicans are typically not done with as high a quality as when Whites do them.

    We do not need and have never need to import 3rd worlders. Rather, we need to deport them, and keep them out.

    Americans can do the work, and have done the work. I know that this is Unz, but stop insulting Americans. You’re part of the problem.

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    • Replies: @macilrae
    I think you are trying to say that there has been no decline in the American work ethic - that 'you' are still perfectly willing to do all the jobs you used to do, but which have since been taken over by immigrants; working just as hard; if only you could receive the proper pay for it: flipping burgers, making beds, cleaning toilets? Go on!

    And your solution is to clean all the immigrants out so that this can happen? Good luck with that - 'you' let them come in in the first place!

    Of course I am not insulting Americans when I say their society has become "lazy and soft" because it is true - and perfectly fair criticism - trouble is people are comforting themselves by retreating into denial - even as they sheepishly contemplate all those extra pounds.
    , @dahoit
    Actually,in some lines of work,like stone masonry,landscaping,nursery work,Mexicans are quite proficient and work hard.(not that they can't do other more tech stuff,they just aren't exposed to it in Mex).
    But they live communally,and will work for wages that Americans can't possibly survive on,putting US at a prime disadvantage with yuppie homeowners who won't pay contractors their due,but will with cheap illegal labor.Look at the crowds outside HD waiting for yuppie supplicants.
    A race to the bottom.
  36. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Lol at the ignorant who want to tar and feather Fred.

    His main point is that most of the problems America is having is from Americans not Mexicans. And so long as we engage in wild goose chases with Mexico, China, Iran, or Russia we are missing the source of our problems. The top 1% in America who constantly sell us out and use these other countries just to mask their own crimes.

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  37. Lift weights, drink beer and never post another article again. Mexicans aren’t that bad and Jews and North-East Asians have high IQs and I should grovel before them because of black crime stats. Thanks Fred

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    NE Asians wish US to grovel before them?Jews yes,but NE Asians?
  38. Fred Reed is a fool if he thinks that most readers here are ignorant of the fact that Mexicans have been in violent conflict with Anglo-Americans since 1835. Between Santa Anna’s surrender at San Jacinto and 1920, the history of the border is one of continuous attacks, raids, banditry, and crime by Mexicans into U.S. territory. You can check Wikipedia for the raids of 1842, 1878, the Border War, the Bandit War. These were unilateral acts of aggression by Mexicans upon Americans. Unless you believe that Mexico should today include all the territory ceded after two wars in which Mexico was defeated, such continuing attacks are unjustified.

    Mexico, because of its ethnic makeup, has always been an enemy of the U.S. in a way that British Canada has never been. The current immigrant invasion is just the way the weak try to continue their war of attrition. The strong will prevail, probably in some action similar to that taken by the Hondurans against illegal Salvadoran squatters during the Soccer War of 1969. A Honduran physician described to me how he participated in that expulsion and the ease with which like-minded Hondurans created militias for cleansing their national territory.

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    • Replies: @KA
    "he strong will prevail, probably in some action similar to that taken by the Hondurans against illegal Salvadoran squatters during the Soccer War of 1969. A Honduran physician described to me how he participated in that expulsion and the ease with which like-minded Hondurans created militias for cleansing their national territory."

    That time is not far off when Alabama will drive the Texan and Nebraskan will throw out the remaining hooligan from Nevada despite having same color ,language and religion . A desire to get rid of the central authority gave rise to demand for independence in Central America and will do same here in US. Spanish central authority did not survive Central American rich resourceful forests,mountains,volcanoes and rich coastlines . It's modern day moniker - Washington establishments will not survive the pent up frustration of the entitled white population. But the endgame will be not liberation or new glorious beginning. It will be just like Honduran expelling the Salvadorian with earnest .

    Dont blame Fred .

    He is not blaming Tumpism that advocates new immigration policy , new labor and manufacturing program, demands for less military expenditures and unnecessary wars and stagnation of middle class .Fred has identified the snake oil seller in the white shiny feathers of the duck .
  39. @Unapologetic White Man
    The American work ethic is no such thing. The 3rd world Mehicans will work for wages far below what people in a first world country can afford. And the jobs that are taken by Mehicans are typically not done with as high a quality as when Whites do them.

    We do not need and have never need to import 3rd worlders. Rather, we need to deport them, and keep them out.

    Americans can do the work, and have done the work. I know that this is Unz, but stop insulting Americans. You're part of the problem.

    I think you are trying to say that there has been no decline in the American work ethic – that ‘you’ are still perfectly willing to do all the jobs you used to do, but which have since been taken over by immigrants; working just as hard; if only you could receive the proper pay for it: flipping burgers, making beds, cleaning toilets? Go on!

    And your solution is to clean all the immigrants out so that this can happen? Good luck with that – ‘you’ let them come in in the first place!

    Of course I am not insulting Americans when I say their society has become “lazy and soft” because it is true – and perfectly fair criticism – trouble is people are comforting themselves by retreating into denial – even as they sheepishly contemplate all those extra pounds.

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    "Of course I am not insulting Americans when I say their society has become “lazy and soft” b"

    What makes you think we have become lazy? We still work long hours with just enough pay to clothe and travel to work place like McDonald and to private hospitals as aides and clerks .We work long hours so that the CEOs of the faltering companies can get his cuts ,bonuses,holidays,and times for relaxation . We work on construction sites on resurfacing the roads in summer and in winter We moonlight in bar after teaching 7th graders. Nurses like us work both physically and mentally often lifting 300 pounds off the bed with minimum help We trash our back joints by driving long haul truck for hours and hours . We take Amphtenaine to stay awake, get sleeping pill to get some rest ad gulp xanax so that amphetamie dont make us anxious too much and then we start Norco after age 50 to ease the pain from long arduous back breaking jobs . We are zombie . We are medical zombie when we work .Psychologically our mind is ready for cheap adrenal rush . But we work still more than average world does.
    , @Ragno

    I think you are trying to say that ‘you’ are still perfectly willing to do all the jobs you used to do which have since been taken over by immigrants if only you could receive the proper pay for it: flipping burgers, making beds, cleaning toilets? Go on!
     
    Well, actually, as you're the one pointing your finger in smirky judgment, Mr Old Tyme Work Ethic, we were kinda hoping you'd whip on a do-rag and scrub out the restrooms.

    Nah - just kidding; clearly, your parsing geopolitical intellect is too vitally required in the blogosphere and forum-reply brain trust to allow you to flip very many burgers, even as an example to the rest of us.
  40. @Jim
    Fred - You seem to be saying that in a confrontation between the US and Mexico, Latino US citizens would not be loyal to the US.

    Obviously, some of them wouldn’t be.

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  41. KA [AKA "tyr"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jay
    Fred Reed is a fool if he thinks that most readers here are ignorant of the fact that Mexicans have been in violent conflict with Anglo-Americans since 1835. Between Santa Anna's surrender at San Jacinto and 1920, the history of the border is one of continuous attacks, raids, banditry, and crime by Mexicans into U.S. territory. You can check Wikipedia for the raids of 1842, 1878, the Border War, the Bandit War. These were unilateral acts of aggression by Mexicans upon Americans. Unless you believe that Mexico should today include all the territory ceded after two wars in which Mexico was defeated, such continuing attacks are unjustified.

    Mexico, because of its ethnic makeup, has always been an enemy of the U.S. in a way that British Canada has never been. The current immigrant invasion is just the way the weak try to continue their war of attrition. The strong will prevail, probably in some action similar to that taken by the Hondurans against illegal Salvadoran squatters during the Soccer War of 1969. A Honduran physician described to me how he participated in that expulsion and the ease with which like-minded Hondurans created militias for cleansing their national territory.

    “he strong will prevail, probably in some action similar to that taken by the Hondurans against illegal Salvadoran squatters during the Soccer War of 1969. A Honduran physician described to me how he participated in that expulsion and the ease with which like-minded Hondurans created militias for cleansing their national territory.”

    That time is not far off when Alabama will drive the Texan and Nebraskan will throw out the remaining hooligan from Nevada despite having same color ,language and religion . A desire to get rid of the central authority gave rise to demand for independence in Central America and will do same here in US. Spanish central authority did not survive Central American rich resourceful forests,mountains,volcanoes and rich coastlines . It’s modern day moniker – Washington establishments will not survive the pent up frustration of the entitled white population. But the endgame will be not liberation or new glorious beginning. It will be just like Honduran expelling the Salvadorian with earnest .

    Dont blame Fred .

    He is not blaming Tumpism that advocates new immigration policy , new labor and manufacturing program, demands for less military expenditures and unnecessary wars and stagnation of middle class .Fred has identified the snake oil seller in the white shiny feathers of the duck .

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  42. I’m not sure if this comment will make it past moderation, but I’m going to type it anyway and see what happens, because it needs to be said.

    Fred, you’re an ignorant asshole for writing this crap. You seem to have a rather selective ability to distinguish between the actions of individuals, corporations, and governments which is all too convenient for your piddly-dink argument. So it is not the fault of “Mexico” when Mexican nationals enter the USA illegally, commit crimes, and sell drugs, but it is the fault of “America” when Americans buy drugs or hire illegal aliens? Did you think we wouldn’t notice this gaping lacuna in your ability to argue coherently, or were you so blinded by your prejudice that you didn’t notice it yourself?

    Perhaps, being down Mexico way for so long, you’re out of touch with what’s happening here in America and you’ve missed the essence of the Trump movement. Well, for your benefit, here it is in a nutshell. Trump voters are plenty pissed off at Mexico and Mexicans and the US government and American corporations. A pox on all their filthy hovels. Mexicans enter this country illegally to depress wages, commit crimes, and over-stress our infrastructure and social fabric; the Mexican government facilitates this through official and unofficial channels; American corporations hire the scab labor because nobody will punish them when they do so, and they also heavily lobby the government to keep the borders open; and the US government orders the border patrol to stand down while using its propaganda arm (Facebook and Google) to cover up news of immigrant crime and suppress any dissent. We know how it works. That’s why we’re voting Trump.

    Regarding Mexico paying for the wall, Trump’s ideas are perfectly reasonable and legal. But I really don’t care if Mexico pays for the wall. All Trump has to do is say the word, and 10 million White men and their sons will show up at the southern border with buckets and trowels in hand and donate their labor to build the wall. We just want the insanity to stop.

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    Excellent post.I'd show up!
    , @D-FensDogG
    Intelligent Dasein ~
    That was an excellent comment. Thanks for saving me the time, as you covered just about everything I was planning to say. (I wouldn't have called Fred an "ignorant a[--]hole", but otherwise I am with you fully.)
    .
    >>... "Trump voters are plenty pissed off at Mexico and Mexicans and the US government and American corporations. A pox on all their filthy hovels."
    .
    BINGO! Yes, ALL of them!!
    .
    I hope it really happens because I can't wait to see that wall go up. I think about it every time I see some graffiti-stained wall covered in Spanish and every time I find myself waiting in line at the grocery store behind 12 Brown people who can't speak a word of English but whip out their welfare money at the cash register! (We're fed up, Fred!)
    .
    I think Fred is a very talented, hilarious writer, but on this issue he's way off base. I suspect it has to do with him living in me-X-ico for so long and having an Hispanic wife.
    .
    Anyway, again, GREAT comment. You nailed it!
    .
    ~ D-FensDogG
    'Loyal American Underground'
  43. @macilrae
    I think you are trying to say that there has been no decline in the American work ethic - that 'you' are still perfectly willing to do all the jobs you used to do, but which have since been taken over by immigrants; working just as hard; if only you could receive the proper pay for it: flipping burgers, making beds, cleaning toilets? Go on!

    And your solution is to clean all the immigrants out so that this can happen? Good luck with that - 'you' let them come in in the first place!

    Of course I am not insulting Americans when I say their society has become "lazy and soft" because it is true - and perfectly fair criticism - trouble is people are comforting themselves by retreating into denial - even as they sheepishly contemplate all those extra pounds.

    “Of course I am not insulting Americans when I say their society has become “lazy and soft” b”

    What makes you think we have become lazy? We still work long hours with just enough pay to clothe and travel to work place like McDonald and to private hospitals as aides and clerks .We work long hours so that the CEOs of the faltering companies can get his cuts ,bonuses,holidays,and times for relaxation . We work on construction sites on resurfacing the roads in summer and in winter We moonlight in bar after teaching 7th graders. Nurses like us work both physically and mentally often lifting 300 pounds off the bed with minimum help We trash our back joints by driving long haul truck for hours and hours . We take Amphtenaine to stay awake, get sleeping pill to get some rest ad gulp xanax so that amphetamie dont make us anxious too much and then we start Norco after age 50 to ease the pain from long arduous back breaking jobs . We are zombie . We are medical zombie when we work .Psychologically our mind is ready for cheap adrenal rush . But we work still more than average world does.

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    What makes you think we have become lazy?
     
    But for you, and the people you mention, America would have ground to a halt - and of course an intelligent person cannot deny there are many exceptions - but if you compare how things were in the sixties, with regard to work-ethic, and how they are now, then you are forced to recognize that the mean of the bell curve has shifted substantially towards the "lower energy" end. Doubtless the habits of those CEOs you mention have influenced the work-force: the concept of "leading by example" has been discarded.
  44. @Jim
    Fred - You seem to be saying that in a confrontation between the US and Mexico, Latino US citizens would not be loyal to the US.

    Mexican flags in LA sure underline that.
    Screw that shite.It got Trump ten million more votes.

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  45. @Rurik

    In America, we’d like politicians who take our part.
     
    exactly!

    Fred froths that we must not blame "Mexico" for what some Mexicans do


    Always Mexico is a conscious, malevolent being. Again Trump is blankly ignorant.
     
    but then goes on to blame Americans for what "America" does..

    America offers these things and then complains when they are accepted.
     
    when he says "America", what he's talking about are the scumfucks in our fecal government, and the greedy scum running international corporations, neither of which represent most Americans.

    And that is the point. We'd like for someone to finally represent what most Americans (of all races) want. And that is secure borders and an end to the drug war madness.

    If Mexicans are not responsible for what the cartels do (and they're not), then neither are Americans responsible for what the psychotic, mass-murdering war criminals in Washington DC do. Duh

    But Fred is myopic to this truth. And defends Mexicans (who are blameless, [at least the ones not raping and murdering Americans]), but tosses blameless Americans under the bus for what "America" does, as if we Americans had even the tiniest voice over what our government does.

    I agree that the onus for the problem of illegal aliens belongs on the American government, who refuses to do their job. But Trump finally represents a will to reverse that insanity.

    He also wants to stop the Endless WarⓊ and implement sanity in our trade deals and do a lot of other really good things.

    For that and because, as Fred mentions just how bad the gorgon would be, I'm also willing to look beyond the things about Trump that I also find quite troubling. (waterboarding, etc..)

    To be a legal immigrant one must have dough,an education and knowledge of our political process.
    Unfortunately none of these illegals meet those basic requirements.
    It is suicide to accept all this self destruction of our nation,and the absolutely only person running who gets it is Trump.

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  46. Trump is either dishonest, naive, or thinks like a ten-year-old.

    All of the above.

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  47. @Rurik

    In America, we’d like politicians who take our part.
     
    exactly!

    Fred froths that we must not blame "Mexico" for what some Mexicans do


    Always Mexico is a conscious, malevolent being. Again Trump is blankly ignorant.
     
    but then goes on to blame Americans for what "America" does..

    America offers these things and then complains when they are accepted.
     
    when he says "America", what he's talking about are the scumfucks in our fecal government, and the greedy scum running international corporations, neither of which represent most Americans.

    And that is the point. We'd like for someone to finally represent what most Americans (of all races) want. And that is secure borders and an end to the drug war madness.

    If Mexicans are not responsible for what the cartels do (and they're not), then neither are Americans responsible for what the psychotic, mass-murdering war criminals in Washington DC do. Duh

    But Fred is myopic to this truth. And defends Mexicans (who are blameless, [at least the ones not raping and murdering Americans]), but tosses blameless Americans under the bus for what "America" does, as if we Americans had even the tiniest voice over what our government does.

    I agree that the onus for the problem of illegal aliens belongs on the American government, who refuses to do their job. But Trump finally represents a will to reverse that insanity.

    He also wants to stop the Endless WarⓊ and implement sanity in our trade deals and do a lot of other really good things.

    For that and because, as Fred mentions just how bad the gorgon would be, I'm also willing to look beyond the things about Trump that I also find quite troubling. (waterboarding, etc..)

    There is no doubt torture is immoral.But it has been,and will continue as long as humans exist,and has been a prime factor in police work,military matters and espionage for thousands of years.Look at your old war movies,film noir and whatever,torture is prevalent,and in some cases portrayed as noble,or at least non offensive if the victims are Nazis or some other demonized group,like the alleged terrorists .
    Its the US govts public embrace of it that is the worst aspect of it,as it shows our leaders hollow souls.

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  48. @Unapologetic White Man
    The American work ethic is no such thing. The 3rd world Mehicans will work for wages far below what people in a first world country can afford. And the jobs that are taken by Mehicans are typically not done with as high a quality as when Whites do them.

    We do not need and have never need to import 3rd worlders. Rather, we need to deport them, and keep them out.

    Americans can do the work, and have done the work. I know that this is Unz, but stop insulting Americans. You're part of the problem.

    Actually,in some lines of work,like stone masonry,landscaping,nursery work,Mexicans are quite proficient and work hard.(not that they can’t do other more tech stuff,they just aren’t exposed to it in Mex).
    But they live communally,and will work for wages that Americans can’t possibly survive on,putting US at a prime disadvantage with yuppie homeowners who won’t pay contractors their due,but will with cheap illegal labor.Look at the crowds outside HD waiting for yuppie supplicants.
    A race to the bottom.

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  49. @ChaseBizzy
    Lift weights, drink beer and never post another article again. Mexicans aren't that bad and Jews and North-East Asians have high IQs and I should grovel before them because of black crime stats. Thanks Fred

    NE Asians wish US to grovel before them?Jews yes,but NE Asians?

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    • Replies: @Son of Dixie
    As their number increase, yes. They will, as groups naturally do, force there culture and impose a conducive environment they can better thrive in. Normal human behavior. Ask Fred, he is a facilitator.
  50. @Intelligent Dasein
    I'm not sure if this comment will make it past moderation, but I'm going to type it anyway and see what happens, because it needs to be said.

    Fred, you're an ignorant asshole for writing this crap. You seem to have a rather selective ability to distinguish between the actions of individuals, corporations, and governments which is all too convenient for your piddly-dink argument. So it is not the fault of "Mexico" when Mexican nationals enter the USA illegally, commit crimes, and sell drugs, but it is the fault of "America" when Americans buy drugs or hire illegal aliens? Did you think we wouldn't notice this gaping lacuna in your ability to argue coherently, or were you so blinded by your prejudice that you didn't notice it yourself?

    Perhaps, being down Mexico way for so long, you're out of touch with what's happening here in America and you've missed the essence of the Trump movement. Well, for your benefit, here it is in a nutshell. Trump voters are plenty pissed off at Mexico and Mexicans and the US government and American corporations. A pox on all their filthy hovels. Mexicans enter this country illegally to depress wages, commit crimes, and over-stress our infrastructure and social fabric; the Mexican government facilitates this through official and unofficial channels; American corporations hire the scab labor because nobody will punish them when they do so, and they also heavily lobby the government to keep the borders open; and the US government orders the border patrol to stand down while using its propaganda arm (Facebook and Google) to cover up news of immigrant crime and suppress any dissent. We know how it works. That's why we're voting Trump.

    Regarding Mexico paying for the wall, Trump's ideas are perfectly reasonable and legal. But I really don't care if Mexico pays for the wall. All Trump has to do is say the word, and 10 million White men and their sons will show up at the southern border with buckets and trowels in hand and donate their labor to build the wall. We just want the insanity to stop.

    Excellent post.I’d show up!

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    • Replies: @JSM
    ME TOO! I'm a woman, but I can slop cement. I'd do it all day long in the hot sun for free, in order to be able to give my kids and their (legitamate) same-aged countrymen back the nice country *I* got to live in for the first twenty years of my life.

    ' Course, I'd *prefer* Mexico to pay for it, since THEY OWE US!!

  51. Go read (re-read) Ann Coulter’s book “Adios, America” to get another view than Fred’s.

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  52. “America’s immigration mess is entirely self-inflicted.”

    Right. It has nothing to do with Mexico’s or Mexicans’ utter disrespect and disregard for US immigration laws. It has nothing to do with Mexico’s incompetence in sustaining a prosperous economy. If Mexico were led and populated by Canadians, would that affect our immigration mess? Or the drug trafficking problem, for that matter? Nah.

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  53. solution:

    The US should simply copy Mexico’s immigration policies.

    Out they go, problem solved.

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  54. @Fidelios Automata
    Fred, you touched on this issue, but the crux of the matter is that you can't expect employers to behave in one way when the government behaves the opposite way. Trump should propose the following:
    1. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship. If at least one of your parents isn't here legally, you're not a citizen. Tourist visas don't count. At least one parent has to have at least a green card.
    2. A national implementation of California's late lamented Prop 187. To defuse civil liberties concerns, you could delete the Orwellian "must inform the INS" parts and just say, no government agency at any level may use taxpayer funds to subsidize any illegal alien in any way, except for the purpose of deporting them. Again, make it an amendment if the social justice warriors in the judiciary refuse to back down.
    3. The ban on remittances would also help. Don't make it conditional, just do it.
    While he's at it, he needs to abolish NAFTA. Wouldn't help the illegal immigration situation, but it would help to placate the pissed-off (and unemployed) white majority.

    I’d go further with your idea and hold that birthright citizenship doesn’t apply unless BOTH parents must be in the USA legally with at least permanent residency and at least one of the parents is already a U.S. citizen. Enough already.

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  55. @KA
    "Of course I am not insulting Americans when I say their society has become “lazy and soft” b"

    What makes you think we have become lazy? We still work long hours with just enough pay to clothe and travel to work place like McDonald and to private hospitals as aides and clerks .We work long hours so that the CEOs of the faltering companies can get his cuts ,bonuses,holidays,and times for relaxation . We work on construction sites on resurfacing the roads in summer and in winter We moonlight in bar after teaching 7th graders. Nurses like us work both physically and mentally often lifting 300 pounds off the bed with minimum help We trash our back joints by driving long haul truck for hours and hours . We take Amphtenaine to stay awake, get sleeping pill to get some rest ad gulp xanax so that amphetamie dont make us anxious too much and then we start Norco after age 50 to ease the pain from long arduous back breaking jobs . We are zombie . We are medical zombie when we work .Psychologically our mind is ready for cheap adrenal rush . But we work still more than average world does.

    What makes you think we have become lazy?

    But for you, and the people you mention, America would have ground to a halt – and of course an intelligent person cannot deny there are many exceptions – but if you compare how things were in the sixties, with regard to work-ethic, and how they are now, then you are forced to recognize that the mean of the bell curve has shifted substantially towards the “lower energy” end. Doubtless the habits of those CEOs you mention have influenced the work-force: the concept of “leading by example” has been discarded.

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  56. Trump a bully and a thug? Nothing could make me happier. Maybe he’ll actually get something DONE.

    Compare and contrast to Bernie Sanders getting pushed around by two African American WOMEN at HIS OWN campaign rally. And we’re supposed to think that this “guy” has the guts to take on the entire Jewish Mafia? Bernie has had, what, 24 years in Con-gress to accomplish all of NOTHING, except what his handlers in Tel Aviv demand, when the cameras aren’t rolling.

    I have some serious questions about what Mr. Trump actually believes, especially wrt to Chosenites, but there’s no question that he can make what he believes come to fruition. The guy at least has a backbone and SOME rudimentary scruples.

    The alternative to “the wall” is, of course, getting the judicial system to enforce existing laws. Which will be about as easy as getting Meyer Lansky back from the dead and rehabilitating him as a Lutheran pastor.

    Hillary, too is a courageous individual who can make things happen. Unfortunately, her purely diabolical and vile nature should scare the bejesus out of anyone with a soul.

    Trump is at least a reasonable package of pragmatism and at least SOME decent ideas, with enough cajones to actually make things happen. I’d much prefer a guy named Adolf, but unfortunately, I may just have to settle for Trump.

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    Well,as Adolf was on a suicide mission,I'd rather follow Trump.
    But if Trump is not the man to take on Zion,and its stranglehold on American politics and prosperity,then Adolfs clone will be next.
  57. Fred doesn’t have to live here with the fallout from years of open borders immigration policies. Fred lives a nice but theoretical life in Mexico. He managed to get a good woman (wife) and good deal down there but his musings about America are mixed and half accurate. Damn right I will be voting for Trump on election day! Fred can vote for Hillary as an ex-pat I suppose or he can just celebrate by breaking open a pinata.

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  58. @Son of Dixie
    Did you honestly think that crossing our border sans consent or legal paperwork was not a Federal crime?

    IIRC it’s a misdemeanor

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    • Replies: @Son of Dixie
    I stand corrected. I did read the statute above, and hopefully new legislation can be implemented to better enforce the border and prosecute those who have intent and carry out crimes, and violate Federal laws by crossing our borders illegally. Tagging Mexicans that cross our border with any crime, whether felonious or misdemeanor is a start. Another way is to prosecute Mexicans with fraud and theft of identities to collect American funded welfare. Make it difficult for them.

    There are many venues to fix the problem, legally.

    Fred has dignity? Irks me to no end that a percentage of my tax dollars fund him and his Mexican wife. But, what else is new?

  59. @Son of Dixie
    Fred chose to post this anti American drivel on the week leading to Memorial Day Weekend.

    Good job, Fred!

    Do me a favor, stay in Mexico, don't come back . We have enough turncoats here as it is.

    He should at least have the dignity to renounce his citizenship

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  60. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Fred Reed lives in Ajijic, Mexico, an American expat enclave he
    seems to be a Mexican apologist , see all his Mexican postings on his own website

    http://www.fredoneverything.net/mexico-columns.shtml

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  61. Immigrant from former USSR [AKA "Florida Resident"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Victor Davis Hanson wrote de-facto pro-Trump article:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436015/trump-anti-establishment-vote

    Argues against Charles Murray, Bill Kristol, and many other “establisharians”.

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  62. @dahoit
    NE Asians wish US to grovel before them?Jews yes,but NE Asians?

    As their number increase, yes. They will, as groups naturally do, force there culture and impose a conducive environment they can better thrive in. Normal human behavior. Ask Fred, he is a facilitator.

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  63. @Son of Dixie
    Did you honestly think that crossing our border sans consent or legal paperwork was not a Federal crime?

    6 months for first offense = misdemeanor, not felony.

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  64. @Marcus
    IIRC it's a misdemeanor

    I stand corrected. I did read the statute above, and hopefully new legislation can be implemented to better enforce the border and prosecute those who have intent and carry out crimes, and violate Federal laws by crossing our borders illegally. Tagging Mexicans that cross our border with any crime, whether felonious or misdemeanor is a start. Another way is to prosecute Mexicans with fraud and theft of identities to collect American funded welfare. Make it difficult for them.

    There are many venues to fix the problem, legally.

    Fred has dignity? Irks me to no end that a percentage of my tax dollars fund him and his Mexican wife. But, what else is new?

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    Keep remittances from reaching their homes. I think retaliation against Mexico as a whole is justified. Their central government may be weak, but it would get its act together if faced with military coercion.
  65. @Son of Dixie
    I stand corrected. I did read the statute above, and hopefully new legislation can be implemented to better enforce the border and prosecute those who have intent and carry out crimes, and violate Federal laws by crossing our borders illegally. Tagging Mexicans that cross our border with any crime, whether felonious or misdemeanor is a start. Another way is to prosecute Mexicans with fraud and theft of identities to collect American funded welfare. Make it difficult for them.

    There are many venues to fix the problem, legally.

    Fred has dignity? Irks me to no end that a percentage of my tax dollars fund him and his Mexican wife. But, what else is new?

    Keep remittances from reaching their homes. I think retaliation against Mexico as a whole is justified. Their central government may be weak, but it would get its act together if faced with military coercion.

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    • Replies: @Son of Dixie
    I agree, "put the screws" to them. And Fred should denounce his American citizenship, he is a disgrace. He is better off in third world Mexico, and he should remain there. Fred's welfare payments should be revoked and his earnings from American tax money he has received over the span of his years in Mexico should be repaid, by threat of incarceration if he crosses our border again.

    Fred, when Trump wins, the party is over. Your Mexicans will be kicked out or starved out by way of full on armed deportation or financial hurt.

    E verify should be mandated and strict penalties should be enacted for any business that hire illegals.
  66. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Fred Fred Cabbage Head…

    one thing I like about Mexicans is their nationalism.

    Okay, let them be proud of their raza.

    I think white Americans should follow suit and be nationalist and race-conscious as well.

    One key difference between US elites and Mexer elites.

    Mexer elites are white but claim to be represent the mestizos and indios. They do no such thing. Mexer whites really try to hog all the privilege for themselves.
    But in rhetoric, you would think all Mexers are of one race and purpose.

    In contrast, US elites go out of their way to put down the white majority.
    Jews in media keep cheering for the day when old whites will die out and US will be fully ‘diverse’.
    And white cuckerals and cuckservatives never stand up for white people.

    Even so, they do a better job of managing the US than Mexer elites do for Mexico.

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    • Replies: @guillermo
    Dom, what happened to those great essays on your website such as Political Correctness as Physical Education?

    Went to your site to revisit these and found they'd vanished. As with your comments here at unz.com, the essays are among the best stuff I've ever read.

    Hope you'll restore them at some point.

    Also enjoy the movie reviews immensely.

    Always look forward to your commentary.

    All best.
  67. Huffington Post Removes Article Claiming Hillary Clinton Will Be Indicted
    he liberal publication Huffington Post removed an article on its website Sunday claiming that the FBI plans to pursue an indictment against Hillary Clinton on federal racketeering charges.
    HuffPo freelance contributor Frank Huguenard, a scientist and public speaker, posted an article on the site’s blog entitled “Hillary Clinton to be Indicted on Federal Racketeering Charges”. Huguenard wrote:
    The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a United States Federal Law passed in 1970 that was designed to provide a tool for law enforcement agencies to fight organized crime. RICO allows prosecution and punishment for alleged racketeering activity that has been executed as part of an ongoing criminal enterprise.
    Activity considered to be racketeering may include bribery, counterfeiting, money laundering, embezzlement, illegal gambling, kidnapping, murder, drug trafficking, slavery, and a host of other nefarious business practices.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/29/huffington-post-removes/

    Can Donald make an issue of it ?

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  68. @Marcus
    Keep remittances from reaching their homes. I think retaliation against Mexico as a whole is justified. Their central government may be weak, but it would get its act together if faced with military coercion.

    I agree, “put the screws” to them. And Fred should denounce his American citizenship, he is a disgrace. He is better off in third world Mexico, and he should remain there. Fred’s welfare payments should be revoked and his earnings from American tax money he has received over the span of his years in Mexico should be repaid, by threat of incarceration if he crosses our border again.

    Fred, when Trump wins, the party is over. Your Mexicans will be kicked out or starved out by way of full on armed deportation or financial hurt.

    E verify should be mandated and strict penalties should be enacted for any business that hire illegals.

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  69. @Son of Dixie
    Did you honestly think that crossing our border sans consent or legal paperwork was not a Federal crime?

    Well, what I questioned was that it was a felony.

    However (since you request honesty), I really didn’t know it’s a crime.

    When the California admitted an illegal immigrant to the practice of law, one of the contentions is that no crime was involved. (On this Bar admission, see “Is being an unlawful immigrant moral turpitude? — California’s Sergio C. Garcia matter” – http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2014/01/107th-installment-is-being-unlawful.html)

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  70. @Willem Hendrik
    The USA could invite the populations of Canada and Mexico to enter the land.
    With upgrades in infrastructure I see no reason the US population can not grow to half a billion within a decade or two and a billion people in a few decades more.

    Calorie production seems efficient enough for sustenance.

    Calorie production seems efficient enough for sustenance.

    I overheard that the other day on the chicken farm. The overlords were making our cages even smaller and packing in even more of us because they had the calories…

    It would be nice if us chickens could have a say about our living conditions. Some of us would like a little more room in which to move around.

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  71. @dahoit
    Excellent post.I'd show up!

    ME TOO! I’m a woman, but I can slop cement. I’d do it all day long in the hot sun for free, in order to be able to give my kids and their (legitamate) same-aged countrymen back the nice country *I* got to live in for the first twenty years of my life.

    ‘ Course, I’d *prefer* Mexico to pay for it, since THEY OWE US!!

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  72. Also worth noting is that Mexico is not the banana republic of popular imagination. It is a major trading partner of the US, a nation of about 120 million, the first or second economy in Latin America depending on what Brazil is doing at the moment, with a rapidly expanding middle class. It is also host to enormous investment by American firms. For example, Ford is about to build a $1.6 billion plant here.

    Mexico has 120 million people. So what? Indonesia has 250 million. Mexico is the 11th largest country (population) in the world and has the 15th largest economy. It’s the second largest country in Latin America, with the second largest economy in Latin America. Not telling us a whole lot.

    Mexico does not have a rapidly expanding middle class. This is a false meme, like the net-zero migration meme. 80% of full time workers in Mexico make less than $20.00 USD a day.

    http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/economia/ganan-menos-que-el-costo-del-iphone6-unos-42-millones-de-mexicanos.html (monthly salary of 42 million Mexican workers less than cost of new iPhone6).

    And the number of full time Mexican workers making the minimum wage ($4.00 USD a day) is increasing.

    http://www.dineroenimagen.com/2016-05-19/73134 (number of Mexicans earning less than $12o.oo USD a month is growing).

    Mexico is host to a lot of foreign investment precisely because the wages are so low. Lower than in China.

    As Mexico’s population has surged, so too has the country’s poverty. There are an estimated 14.3 million more Mexicans living in poverty than when NAFTA was first signed. It is now the most unequal country in the OECD, a grouping of 34 relatively high-income democracies.

    As (Canada’s) manufacturing sector struggles, Mexico’s is booming. It has become one of the cheapest places on the planet to make things — even cheaper than China, according to a 2013 Bank of America study. The country’s so-called maquiladora program, which thrives along the U.S.-Mexico border, lures foreign companies with the promise of duty-free manufacturing. Tijuana boasts of a “5:1” ratio: five Mexican workers for the price of every American one.

    https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/05/22/inside-mexicos-ghost-unions.html

    In a profile of two young, successful Mexican high tech professionals, the author adds this:

    Still, despite their love for Mexico and their lives in Mexico City, Jaime and Roberto are considering jobs north of the border.While much has been made about Mexico’s new status as a middle class country, wages still remain 10 times below the United States.

    http://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/north-american-century/meet-mexicos-new-innovators.html

    As for the banana republic thing, Mexico’s political system and criminal justice system more than qualify for that label.

    The electoral/political system:

    the use of political power for personal enrichment. Converting democracy into a kleptocracy. Harnessing a position in the government to rob from those who finance it. Because it is so simple, so simple. The PRI is used to stealing and citizens are accustomed to them doing it. Mexico was the cradle of the perfect dictatorship and now it is the perfect venue for plundering.

    http://mexicovoices.blogspot.mx/2016/05/mexico-corruption-perfect-example.html

    Pre-election activity in Mexico. Citizens stumble on warehouse being used to store household goods for PRI vote buying:

    Mexico’s security forces rank # 118 out of 127 in Police Professionalism Index:

    http://wispindex.org/#/global-rankings/

    I guess that’s all for now.

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  73. Sorry Fred, your message is lost to most of the posters here at Unz. It’s just too damn convenient to blame others for your own shortcomings.

    Mexico does not have a monopoly on un-educated knuckle draggers, and neither does Mississippi, but people gotta live somewhere.

    In my community, the establishment is complaining that the ‘homeless’ are costing the police and other utilities the most, yet no one explains how the homeless get to those government accounts to spend the money on fancy news jails and office buildings.

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    Rather his "message" is recognized for the deceitful, traitorous tripe that it is.
  74. I hope that when the Wall goes up that
    fred is south of it, and white race traitors are not let back in. US for Whites only and traitors OUT!

    Joe Webb

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  75. Fred, a wind actually sucks, but we say it blows. Your semantic defense of Mexico doesn’t matter.

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  76. Where did all this nonsense come from, Fred? Trump has made it clear that he has no problem with Mexico, just the stream of illegals…BTW, most nations tax remittances by foreigners, and there is plenty of money there, though Carlos Slim would lose income, haha. But ultimately, Mexico’s wishes are irrelevant–US sovereignty and solvency cannot survive a continued stream of low IQ, welfare seeking, violent 3d worlders….

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  77. @macilrae
    I think you are trying to say that there has been no decline in the American work ethic - that 'you' are still perfectly willing to do all the jobs you used to do, but which have since been taken over by immigrants; working just as hard; if only you could receive the proper pay for it: flipping burgers, making beds, cleaning toilets? Go on!

    And your solution is to clean all the immigrants out so that this can happen? Good luck with that - 'you' let them come in in the first place!

    Of course I am not insulting Americans when I say their society has become "lazy and soft" because it is true - and perfectly fair criticism - trouble is people are comforting themselves by retreating into denial - even as they sheepishly contemplate all those extra pounds.

    I think you are trying to say that ‘you’ are still perfectly willing to do all the jobs you used to do which have since been taken over by immigrants if only you could receive the proper pay for it: flipping burgers, making beds, cleaning toilets? Go on!

    Well, actually, as you’re the one pointing your finger in smirky judgment, Mr Old Tyme Work Ethic, we were kinda hoping you’d whip on a do-rag and scrub out the restrooms.

    Nah – just kidding; clearly, your parsing geopolitical intellect is too vitally required in the blogosphere and forum-reply brain trust to allow you to flip very many burgers, even as an example to the rest of us.

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    Just for the record, I was once a waiter but got fired - I think they said I was "too slow": but my talent was evident, even then, and instead of obliging me to depart the establishment altogether, I was assigned to the job of 'plongeur' (see George Orwell, Down and out in Paris and London) or "washer-up". My elbows deep in the suds and a very intense expression fixed upon my visage, I succeeded where few had managed before and drew grudging respect. On my final day I was tearfully told that, had I remained in my role, the title of "Plongeur-in-Chief" could quite possibly have been mine - before the age of fifty!

    These days I mostly parse matters of geopolitical import - spending, I should say, 99% of my time in forum-reply activities.

    You may see me here again.
  78. Such a tragedy that most of the commenters here, including Fred, are unfamiliar with the writings of Hannah Arendt. Fred as a journalist does understand one thing: the more controversy, the increase in readership, and of course income in his pocket. Unless of course, one happens to be so stupid as Glen Beck and publicly advocate assassination. Personally, I would much prefer deportation of all politicians, central bankers, high-ranking Pentagon officers, megacorp officers (with only their fine, expensive attire and no tech) to a highly remote section of the Gobi or Sahara desert where they could learn to cooperate for their own survival. They could start by locating a potable water source…. Then if they should happen to make it out, they too would be an illegal immigrant and no passport.

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    I know Arendt ,moderately well. What is you point?
    You may be thinking about her views on The Social Question, which in her time was concerned with Whites, but in our time, it is useful with regard to coloreds....who will never fit into white society.

    Fred . got wise to him about 8 years ago at a conference...Am Ren? where he pulled the same crap...mexicans are good for you. I called him on it, remarking the local crime numbers etc.

    Teflon Fred, and as you folks say, there is money in it. Race traitors do well by their do -gooding, or maybe he is the pope's man in Mexico.

    Joe Webb
  79. @Klokman
    Such a tragedy that most of the commenters here, including Fred, are unfamiliar with the writings of Hannah Arendt. Fred as a journalist does understand one thing: the more controversy, the increase in readership, and of course income in his pocket. Unless of course, one happens to be so stupid as Glen Beck and publicly advocate assassination. Personally, I would much prefer deportation of all politicians, central bankers, high-ranking Pentagon officers, megacorp officers (with only their fine, expensive attire and no tech) to a highly remote section of the Gobi or Sahara desert where they could learn to cooperate for their own survival. They could start by locating a potable water source.... Then if they should happen to make it out, they too would be an illegal immigrant and no passport.

    I know Arendt ,moderately well. What is you point?
    You may be thinking about her views on The Social Question, which in her time was concerned with Whites, but in our time, it is useful with regard to coloreds….who will never fit into white society.

    Fred . got wise to him about 8 years ago at a conference…Am Ren? where he pulled the same crap…mexicans are good for you. I called him on it, remarking the local crime numbers etc.

    Teflon Fred, and as you folks say, there is money in it. Race traitors do well by their do -gooding, or maybe he is the pope’s man in Mexico.

    Joe Webb

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  80. Immigrant from former USSR [AKA "Florida Resident"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Victor Davis Hanson has published on Friday July 1, 2016 his new article
    “Walls and Immigration — Ancient and Modern”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436109/migrants-eu-roman-empire-assimilation-challenge

    Rather anti-immigration and with a hint of pro-Trump.
    Hanson is serious author and scholar.

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    Hanson is serious author and scholar.
     
    That's not the impression I get from this paragraph

    If Mexico and other Latin American countries were to adopt many of the protocols of the United States, their standard of living would be as indistinguishable from America’s as modern Scotland is from today’s Britain.

     

  81. @Biff
    Sorry Fred, your message is lost to most of the posters here at Unz. It's just too damn convenient to blame others for your own shortcomings.

    Mexico does not have a monopoly on un-educated knuckle draggers, and neither does Mississippi, but people gotta live somewhere.

    In my community, the establishment is complaining that the 'homeless' are costing the police and other utilities the most, yet no one explains how the homeless get to those government accounts to spend the money on fancy news jails and office buildings.

    Rather his “message” is recognized for the deceitful, traitorous tripe that it is.

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  82. @Immigrant from former USSR
    Victor Davis Hanson has published on Friday July 1, 2016 his new article
    "Walls and Immigration — Ancient and Modern"
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436109/migrants-eu-roman-empire-assimilation-challenge
    Rather anti-immigration and with a hint of pro-Trump.
    Hanson is serious author and scholar.

    Hanson is serious author and scholar.

    That’s not the impression I get from this paragraph

    If Mexico and other Latin American countries were to adopt many of the protocols of the United States, their standard of living would be as indistinguishable from America’s as modern Scotland is from today’s Britain.

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    • Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR
    I also mentally noted that paragraph, while reading the article.
    It is plane wrong.
    However, he is great scholar of ancient Greece. See
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson
    where about 20 books by him are mentioned.
    I also read and liked his "Mexifornia: A State of Becoming",
    http://www.amazon.com/Mexifornia-Becoming-Victor-Davis-Hanson/dp/1594032173/
  83. Immigrant from former USSR [AKA "Florida Resident"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Marcus

    Hanson is serious author and scholar.
     
    That's not the impression I get from this paragraph

    If Mexico and other Latin American countries were to adopt many of the protocols of the United States, their standard of living would be as indistinguishable from America’s as modern Scotland is from today’s Britain.

     

    I also mentally noted that paragraph, while reading the article.
    It is plane wrong.
    However, he is great scholar of ancient Greece. See

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson

    where about 20 books by him are mentioned.
    I also read and liked his “Mexifornia: A State of Becoming”,

    http://www.amazon.com/Mexifornia-Becoming-Victor-Davis-Hanson/dp/1594032173/

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  84. @Willem Hendrik
    The USA could invite the populations of Canada and Mexico to enter the land.
    With upgrades in infrastructure I see no reason the US population can not grow to half a billion within a decade or two and a billion people in a few decades more.

    Calorie production seems efficient enough for sustenance.

    For extra credit, expand on “should invite.”

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  85. @Son of Dixie
    What a load of twaddle. The United States does not offer welfare to illegal aliens, the illegals use fake and stolen identification to obtain the welfare. That is a crime, Fred.

    Crossing our border illegally is a federal crime, thus rendering them all felons and federal fugitives. The solution is to make E-Verify mandatory for all businesses in the US and hefty fines along with a revocation of business licenses for offending employers. Illegals caught receiving welfare with fake/stolen identities should prosecuted and subsequently deported after they have paid for their crime of stealing someone else identity.

    That would cause about half of them to self deport, if not more. Stop their means of income. Eventually have Mexican guest workers would be ok once strict enforcement had been implemented.

    We owe them nothing.

    That’s a good point about not providing welfare to illegals. However, some states provide in-state tuition to illegals and federal law requires ER services to be offered to illegals. Our federales would also rather go blind than crack down on the use of forged documents so in effect we do offer welfare to illegals. They just must go through the intermediate step of acquiring false documents.

    Our ridiculous anchor baby provisions also create an inducement for illegals to give birth and then, I presume, the newly minted “citizen” is the entering wedge whereby his family is fast tracked for legal residence and, I presume, welfare without the need for forged documents.

    On Fred’s point that Trump might create a “huge, hostile, self-aware racial group,” allow me to point out, Fred, that we already have that in spades. See MeCHa, La Raza, MALDEF, and that charming photo of the young Mexican lad grabbing his crotch and giving the finger to the photographer.

    Also, Mexico is more than happy to allow safe passage for Central Americans on their Train of Death so that the dreamers can flood into our country. Mexico also publishes a pamphlet on how to make it to El Norte and actively pushes dual citizenship for Mexicans here and encourages Mexicans here to retain their allegiance to Mexico and combine against the gringo.

    Mexico’s also deeply invested in keeping the flow of remittances going. It’s true that it is all 100% our fault for tolerating and enabling illegal immigration but I fail to see why Mexico’s attitude toward us can’t be fairly characterized as a grande *** Ustedes.

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  86. @Svigor
    Dear Quisling, Mexicans have Mexican politicians to take their part. In America, we'd like politicians who take our part.

    Precisement and Occamesque.

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  87. @Fidelios Automata
    Fred, you touched on this issue, but the crux of the matter is that you can't expect employers to behave in one way when the government behaves the opposite way. Trump should propose the following:
    1. A Constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship. If at least one of your parents isn't here legally, you're not a citizen. Tourist visas don't count. At least one parent has to have at least a green card.
    2. A national implementation of California's late lamented Prop 187. To defuse civil liberties concerns, you could delete the Orwellian "must inform the INS" parts and just say, no government agency at any level may use taxpayer funds to subsidize any illegal alien in any way, except for the purpose of deporting them. Again, make it an amendment if the social justice warriors in the judiciary refuse to back down.
    3. The ban on remittances would also help. Don't make it conditional, just do it.
    While he's at it, he needs to abolish NAFTA. Wouldn't help the illegal immigration situation, but it would help to placate the pissed-off (and unemployed) white majority.

    1. Constitutional amendment not necessary. Birthright citizenship is simply a custom. Nothing more. An executive order could end it tomorrow. Retroactively. Even.

    2. Already illegal to provide non-emergency benefits to immigrants–illegal or otherwise. What we really need is the enforcement of the “affidavits of support” on LEGAL immigrants. Illegals shouldn’t be here, period, so question of whether they get EBT cards or Section 8 housing is moot.

    3. Ban on remittances a dumb idea. If a foreign national is here legally, the money they earn is theirs to do with what they want. If they are here illegally, the question is, again, moot. Nafta? Yes, scuttle it.

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  88. @Priss Factor
    Fred Fred Cabbage Head...

    one thing I like about Mexicans is their nationalism.

    Okay, let them be proud of their raza.

    I think white Americans should follow suit and be nationalist and race-conscious as well.

    One key difference between US elites and Mexer elites.

    Mexer elites are white but claim to be represent the mestizos and indios. They do no such thing. Mexer whites really try to hog all the privilege for themselves.
    But in rhetoric, you would think all Mexers are of one race and purpose.

    In contrast, US elites go out of their way to put down the white majority.
    Jews in media keep cheering for the day when old whites will die out and US will be fully 'diverse'.
    And white cuckerals and cuckservatives never stand up for white people.

    Even so, they do a better job of managing the US than Mexer elites do for Mexico.

    Dom, what happened to those great essays on your website such as Political Correctness as Physical Education?

    Went to your site to revisit these and found they’d vanished. As with your comments here at unz.com, the essays are among the best stuff I’ve ever read.

    Hope you’ll restore them at some point.

    Also enjoy the movie reviews immensely.

    Always look forward to your commentary.

    All best.

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    This is a stupidly and childishly written article. All it does is lessen my estimation of Unz.com, making it less likely that I will visit this site again.

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  90. @Anonymous
    The talk of building a wall makes me wonder if we have really thought the problem through. Although the Mexican birth rate has dropped from 23 per thousand in 2000 to 19 per 1000 in 2014, that rate is still incredibly high compared to the birth rate of 13.4 per thousand in the United States in 2014. People do not ask to be born; indeed they have no choice in the matter. After they are born, however, they will need space, food, water, etc., and they will go wherever they can find the most of it at the best price. All building a wall will do is emphasize the fact that the pickings are best on the other side. This could use a little more thought.

    No, to keep them out, you keep them out. Not leave it open and hope they don’t have the resolve to cross.

    You are making the same argument Obama makes for why we need more Muslim immigration, not less, to solve our Muslim problem. With such a solution, when it becomes too late and the nation has finally turned brown, just try getting your money, or your country, back from him. He’ll say it was a mistake, and chuckle.

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  91. @DaveE
    Trump a bully and a thug? Nothing could make me happier. Maybe he'll actually get something DONE.

    Compare and contrast to Bernie Sanders getting pushed around by two African American WOMEN at HIS OWN campaign rally. And we're supposed to think that this "guy" has the guts to take on the entire Jewish Mafia? Bernie has had, what, 24 years in Con-gress to accomplish all of NOTHING, except what his handlers in Tel Aviv demand, when the cameras aren't rolling.

    I have some serious questions about what Mr. Trump actually believes, especially wrt to Chosenites, but there's no question that he can make what he believes come to fruition. The guy at least has a backbone and SOME rudimentary scruples.

    The alternative to "the wall" is, of course, getting the judicial system to enforce existing laws. Which will be about as easy as getting Meyer Lansky back from the dead and rehabilitating him as a Lutheran pastor.

    Hillary, too is a courageous individual who can make things happen. Unfortunately, her purely diabolical and vile nature should scare the bejesus out of anyone with a soul.

    Trump is at least a reasonable package of pragmatism and at least SOME decent ideas, with enough cajones to actually make things happen. I'd much prefer a guy named Adolf, but unfortunately, I may just have to settle for Trump.

    Well,as Adolf was on a suicide mission,I’d rather follow Trump.
    But if Trump is not the man to take on Zion,and its stranglehold on American politics and prosperity,then Adolfs clone will be next.

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    In 1965 the (((United States))) changed its laws to encourage immigration.

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  93. @Intelligent Dasein
    I'm not sure if this comment will make it past moderation, but I'm going to type it anyway and see what happens, because it needs to be said.

    Fred, you're an ignorant asshole for writing this crap. You seem to have a rather selective ability to distinguish between the actions of individuals, corporations, and governments which is all too convenient for your piddly-dink argument. So it is not the fault of "Mexico" when Mexican nationals enter the USA illegally, commit crimes, and sell drugs, but it is the fault of "America" when Americans buy drugs or hire illegal aliens? Did you think we wouldn't notice this gaping lacuna in your ability to argue coherently, or were you so blinded by your prejudice that you didn't notice it yourself?

    Perhaps, being down Mexico way for so long, you're out of touch with what's happening here in America and you've missed the essence of the Trump movement. Well, for your benefit, here it is in a nutshell. Trump voters are plenty pissed off at Mexico and Mexicans and the US government and American corporations. A pox on all their filthy hovels. Mexicans enter this country illegally to depress wages, commit crimes, and over-stress our infrastructure and social fabric; the Mexican government facilitates this through official and unofficial channels; American corporations hire the scab labor because nobody will punish them when they do so, and they also heavily lobby the government to keep the borders open; and the US government orders the border patrol to stand down while using its propaganda arm (Facebook and Google) to cover up news of immigrant crime and suppress any dissent. We know how it works. That's why we're voting Trump.

    Regarding Mexico paying for the wall, Trump's ideas are perfectly reasonable and legal. But I really don't care if Mexico pays for the wall. All Trump has to do is say the word, and 10 million White men and their sons will show up at the southern border with buckets and trowels in hand and donate their labor to build the wall. We just want the insanity to stop.

    Intelligent Dasein ~
    That was an excellent comment. Thanks for saving me the time, as you covered just about everything I was planning to say. (I wouldn’t have called Fred an “ignorant a[--]hole”, but otherwise I am with you fully.)
    .
    >>… “Trump voters are plenty pissed off at Mexico and Mexicans and the US government and American corporations. A pox on all their filthy hovels.”
    .
    BINGO! Yes, ALL of them!!
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    I hope it really happens because I can’t wait to see that wall go up. I think about it every time I see some graffiti-stained wall covered in Spanish and every time I find myself waiting in line at the grocery store behind 12 Brown people who can’t speak a word of English but whip out their welfare money at the cash register! (We’re fed up, Fred!)
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    I think Fred is a very talented, hilarious writer, but on this issue he’s way off base. I suspect it has to do with him living in me-X-ico for so long and having an Hispanic wife.
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    Anyway, again, GREAT comment. You nailed it!
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    ~ D-FensDogG
    ‘Loyal American Underground’

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    @macilrae
    Bravo Fred - as I said in comment No. 95 on Buchanan's piece "We do NOT blame the immigrants" (and nobody contradicted me).

    American society has become lazy and soft with a declining work ethic - this therefore has to be imported.

    However if Donald to makes it, look upon him as a very necessary dose of castor oil and an antidote to the alternative.

    “American society has become lazy and soft with a declining work ethic – this therefore has to be imported.”

    If immigrants from Mexico and Central America come here to work, why do they howl like banshees when anyone even broaches the subject of cutting off their access to government handouts?

    The figure I’ve seen is that 73% of them are on some form of welfare, compared to 30% of the native population.

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  95. @Ragno

    I think you are trying to say that ‘you’ are still perfectly willing to do all the jobs you used to do which have since been taken over by immigrants if only you could receive the proper pay for it: flipping burgers, making beds, cleaning toilets? Go on!
     
    Well, actually, as you're the one pointing your finger in smirky judgment, Mr Old Tyme Work Ethic, we were kinda hoping you'd whip on a do-rag and scrub out the restrooms.

    Nah - just kidding; clearly, your parsing geopolitical intellect is too vitally required in the blogosphere and forum-reply brain trust to allow you to flip very many burgers, even as an example to the rest of us.

    Just for the record, I was once a waiter but got fired – I think they said I was “too slow”: but my talent was evident, even then, and instead of obliging me to depart the establishment altogether, I was assigned to the job of ‘plongeur’ (see George Orwell, Down and out in Paris and London) or “washer-up”. My elbows deep in the suds and a very intense expression fixed upon my visage, I succeeded where few had managed before and drew grudging respect. On my final day I was tearfully told that, had I remained in my role, the title of “Plongeur-in-Chief” could quite possibly have been mine – before the age of fifty!

    These days I mostly parse matters of geopolitical import – spending, I should say, 99% of my time in forum-reply activities.

    You may see me here again.

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