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We ashen-souled columnists, the galley slaves of journalism, are accustomed to abuse from web louts, though it makes us see humanity as having the charm one associates with the underside of a theater seat. We bear up manfully under this, perhaps in the company of Mr. Daniels of Tennessee. To be fair, we get a modicum of civil and intelligent comment.

The third category we see is CDA: Cognitive Dissonance Avoidance. The majority of men cannot abide anything they do not already think and, when asked questions they would rather not contemplate, probably lock themselves in the bathroom until the screen goes blank. Herewith some of the most studiously avoided questions.

The Police: A cop sees a man strike a woman in the head with a piece of pipe and grab her purse. He tries to arrest the perp, who resists. The criminal is 19, muscular, and weighs 220. What should the cop do?

Web louts avoid the question because all available answers involve violence and the louts, who hate the police while knowing nothing about them, cannot afford to concede that violence by police can ever be legitimate. If they did, then many cases of alleged brutality would become legitimate. So they duck and dodge. Classic CDA.

Second question: The perp is big, stoked on PCP, has a length of pipe, and does not want to go to jail. He attacks the cop. What should the cop do when attacked with a deadly weapon?

Note to web louts only: Do not natter stupidly about cops are thugs, you don’t like cops, they are racists, Fred is a fascist, and all the other excretions of negligible minds. Answer the question.

Intelligent design. For those unfamiliar with this particular circus, intelligent Design–ID among the cognoscenti–is the theory or, as many would have it, observation–that some biological structures cannot have evolved because they are irreducibly complex, and therefore must have been designed. This does not mean excessively complex, but that the structures in question have too many parts all of which would have to appear at once or the structure would not function, and that the parts by themselves would have no value in survival. This is furiously denied by the Darwin claque.

If irreducible complexity does not exist, then any organism can in principle be traced backward, evolutionary step by evolutionary step, to nonliving matter. In practice of course this is impossible with entire organisms. With simple processes it should be doable.

Consider protein synthesis. This is a comparatively simple, well understood. Why is it not irreducibly complex? How can it be simplified to a preceding evolutionary form? Can we reduce the number of nucleotides per codon from three to two, allowing coding for at most sixteen aminos? Can the sugar be eliminated from nucleotides? The phosphate? Surely simplifying an already simple process should be only an exercise for grad students. Otherwise it would seem irrem—No! No!

Immigration.The presence of any Latinos at all in America is strongly opposed by racialist groups such as the Alt-Right. These encourage the belief that Latinos are stupid, filthy, criminal, and parasitic, and seek to prevent immigration. There are forty million legal Latinos in the country, mostly citizens, who are not going to leave and cannot be deported. While it can certainly be argued that the country would be better off without them, they exist and will remain. Question for the Alt-Right:

What policy do you recommend toward American citizens of Latino descent?

Encourage assimilation? Discourage it? Poisoning? In any case, how?

Those opposed to immigration strenuously avoid the question because having a policy would concede the legitimacy, or at least permanence, of Latino-Americans. This they cannot bring themselves to do. If they did, they would likewise concede the inevitability of intermarriage. Eeeeeeek!

Personally I sympathize with white nationalists and think mass immigration should not have been permitted. But I also that that it was, and we have to deal with what is, not what we might like.

Illegal immigrants: The roughly twelve million illegals pose another problem. It is arithmetically very unlikely that a statistically important number of illegals will be deported or leave. If ten thousand a month were deported during Trump’s maximum possible reign, this would come to almost a million, eight percent of the illegals and substantially less than two percent of the Latino population. Question for white nationalists: What policy do you recommend toward those illegals who do not leave?

They duck and dodge on this question too because having a policy on remaining illegals–probably most of them–would be to admit that some will remain, which they will not. Questions consequent to the first would arise, such as do we amnesty them–the Alt-Right would rather take slit its throat–so they can get real jobs, buy houses, and so on, or keep them as a permanent underclass until their children, citizens, make the question noot?

Open borders: People in favor of mass immigration never put a number on what they want, without which they become moral poseurs and feel-good artists. There are probably 700 million Indians, at least 300 million Latin Americans, all of Haiti, 500 million Africans, and many hundreds of millions of Indonesians, Arabs, Afghans, Pakistanis, and so on who would like to come to America. Question for pro-immigrationists: Specifically, how many immigrants do you want to accept? What upper limit do you want?

Plagiolepis alluaudi

Plagiolepis alluaudi

Ants. If you look at mammalian brains, or even reptilian ones, you see enough neurons to believe that they can manage the animal. People have about 1350 cc of brain, some whales 5400.

But consider the above ant. There is hardly any ant there. Most of what there is of the little beast consists of legs, exoskeleton, thorax and abdomen and so on. It has virtually no nervous tissue, distributed or otherwise.

Yet it effortlessly manages six legs over broken terrain (ask a robotics engineer how easy this is) operates digestive organs and such, knows how to forage for food, dig nests, care for queen and young, manage sensory organs and interact with other ants.

All of this is flat weird. Question: How can so very, very little “brain” control such complex behavior? What, as we would say in today’s digital world,is the storage mechanism? The programming language?

When I have asked this question, the response has been “Oh, Fred, ants use a different system.” That is the question, not the answer. What is the explanation, if one exists?

This question involves no web louts pr evasive politics, but there does seem to be a desire to avoid saying that there is something going on that we do not understand.

ORDER IT NOW

Affirmative action: This was originally sold as a temporary measure to allow blacks who did not quite meet the qualifications for a job to begin working, whereupon–so the theory went–they would study hard and catch up. Critics argue that blacks aren’t catching up, and indeed cannot, and that affirmative action is just another entitlement giveaway to keep them from burning cities. . Proponents deny this. Question: When, specifically, should affirmative action be dropped, and how will we know when we get there?

There may be good answers to all of these questions. Specific, concrete, non-evasive answers. I would like to hear them.

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  1. What policy do you recommend toward those illegals who do not leave?

    If they’ve committed any crime worse than shoplifting, make them leave. Microchip them so when they approach the border again, alarms on the big beautiful wall go off, triggering a high-pressure spray of water mixed with last night’s burrito dinner. And when we send them back, tell them Fred’s biker bar in Lake Chapala is not depressing at all, despite the pictures, but is actually a great place to sell fentanyl and get free shots.

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    Hey, wait Bradadocious, that's like, a solution or something. Fred Reed is not into solving problems, only describing them and bitching about his commenters.
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  2. Jeeezzz…

    Jesussahmad#

    You have sexual dissonance for mexican bombshell!!!!1

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  3. It’s raining chicanas, Halleluia!!1

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  4. whoever says: • Website

    Regarding the ant, have you ever read The Soul of the White Ant by Eugene Marais? It’s about termites, but same diff, I guess.
    Marais studied termites extensively and conducted various experiments to study their behavior. In one of these, he damaged a termite mound and then inserted a large steel plate into its center, dividing the mound in two.
    The termites repaired the mound on both sides of the steel plate, building columns and arches. Their movements were coordinated even though they approached the wall from different sides. The termites on opposite sides of the steel plate built arches that met the steel plate at exactly the right position to join if the plate had not blocked their way.
    This seemed to demonstrate that there was some kind of coordinating influence which was not blocked by the plate. E.O. Wilson suggests ants (and termites) coordinate their activities by the use of pheromones, but this would seem to be impossible in this case since even termites can’t smell through a steel plate. So maybe something else is going on.
    Brian Goodwin thought that the most important features of life can be accounted for through the dynamic generating of form rather than through natural selection of variants. Goodwin’s work with green algae demonstrated the irreducibility of form generation to DNA.
    Working with Ricard Solé and Octavio Miramontes, Goodwin developed a mathematical model showing how rhythmical activity emerges in a model ant colony when individually chaotic ants interact with each other at a specific density. Miramontes describes this in detail in his book, Complexity and Behavior in Leptothoax Ants.
    Goodwin studied complexity theory, and with Solé wrote Signs of Life, which outlines how the mathematics of chaos and non-linear dynamics can be applied to the living world at all levels of organization, including that of ant societies.
    Goodwin’s colleague Mae-Wan Ho was intrigued by Szent Györgyi’s idea that life is interposed between two energy levels of the electron, and wrote a book about her research into the nature of life, The Rainbow and the Worm: The Physics of Organisms, describing “the poetry and meaning of being alive.”
    The Scientific American review of this book says, “The layman may not understand half of this book, but he will understand more than he expects to or may feel he has any right to. The author, whether discussing ‘quantum-entanglement,’ or ‘energy-flow,’ ‘dynamic order’ or life as a ‘collective response to weak signals,’ has the gift of making the reader dream.”

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Thanks for the references!

    Peace.
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  5. Good questions, answers seem to be obvious:

    1) When a cop is attacked with deadly force, he should respond with deadly force.

    2) Intelligent design – makes some sense.

    3) Immigration – citizens of Latino descent – celebrate their presence, assist in their integration into society, give them scholarships to university, hire them preferentially over unqualified affirmative action hires.

    4) Immigration – illegal aliens – make it difficult for them to find work, make it easy for them to return to their home country (and it’s not just Mexico, it’s also Ireland and Central America). Put large financial penalties on employers who hire non-citizens.

    5) Open borders – zero immigration of people without college degrees, unlimited number of immigrants with PhD in STEM, no immigration of “refugees” (they’re seldom refugees), limited immigration of people on point system (like Canada and Australia).

    6) Ants – they have enough neurons to form neural networks to do these tasks.

    7) Affirmative action – should be completely ended immediately.

    There – good questions, obvious answers.

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    • Replies: @Mokiki
    Your solution numero cinco would turn our universities into green card mills. Courts and Democrats would dilute the definition of STEM until included *-studies.
    , @Alfa158
    Ants have about a quarter of a million neurons which is far too small to perform the tasks they can if they were all hard-wired like gates in CPU chip, so has to be some sort of neural network.
    Additionally every individual neuron is a far more complex bit of structure than a transistor. I wonder if each neuron has multiple functional modes that increase the overall effective complexity. In our vision systems our retinas have more cells than neurons in our optic nerve so there is some sort of adaptive mode for sharing the data transfer. In addition, the maximum signal transmission time between any two neurons in an ant will also be a couple orders of magnitude faster due to smaller size so that could help. Effectively more computational operations per second.
    Is it possible that ants are therefore more advanced in terms of the computing efficiency per neuron count? I have 86 billion neurons, ( depending on how much whiskey I've consumed in my mis-spent life) and still trip over my feet trying to use just two of them.
    Too bad it is so hard to study the neural mechanics of such small creatures. Maybe we could learn a lot for application to our artificial neural networks. I personally welcome our new AI masters. Not that they'll care one way or another.
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  6. Wow, may I say “Shoot to kill” to all the above?

    Seriously, most people have no issue with a cop using appropriate force, but they are disturbed by video footage of cops shooting people in the back while running away.

    Plenty of people in the Alt-Right are cool with some immigration along prescribed rules enacted by the people’s representatives after appropriate debate. They’re not cool with an indifferent executive refusing to enforce the rules or shill representatives looking to soften them to win favors from lobbyists and donors.

    Ants: amazing things, but you should ask yourself how many neurons a human really needs to function and why so many humans fail to find even that many.

    Illlegal immigrants who won’t leave: Seriously Fred, what would you have done in Nam if Charlie had joined you, uninvited, in your fighting hole and refused to leave voluntarily?

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  7. Talha says:
    @whoever
    Regarding the ant, have you ever read The Soul of the White Ant by Eugene Marais? It's about termites, but same diff, I guess.
    Marais studied termites extensively and conducted various experiments to study their behavior. In one of these, he damaged a termite mound and then inserted a large steel plate into its center, dividing the mound in two.
    The termites repaired the mound on both sides of the steel plate, building columns and arches. Their movements were coordinated even though they approached the wall from different sides. The termites on opposite sides of the steel plate built arches that met the steel plate at exactly the right position to join if the plate had not blocked their way.
    This seemed to demonstrate that there was some kind of coordinating influence which was not blocked by the plate. E.O. Wilson suggests ants (and termites) coordinate their activities by the use of pheromones, but this would seem to be impossible in this case since even termites can't smell through a steel plate. So maybe something else is going on.
    Brian Goodwin thought that the most important features of life can be accounted for through the dynamic generating of form rather than through natural selection of variants. Goodwin’s work with green algae demonstrated the irreducibility of form generation to DNA.
    Working with Ricard Solé and Octavio Miramontes, Goodwin developed a mathematical model showing how rhythmical activity emerges in a model ant colony when individually chaotic ants interact with each other at a specific density. Miramontes describes this in detail in his book, Complexity and Behavior in Leptothoax Ants.
    Goodwin studied complexity theory, and with Solé wrote Signs of Life, which outlines how the mathematics of chaos and non-linear dynamics can be applied to the living world at all levels of organization, including that of ant societies.
    Goodwin's colleague Mae-Wan Ho was intrigued by Szent Györgyi's idea that life is interposed between two energy levels of the electron, and wrote a book about her research into the nature of life, The Rainbow and the Worm: The Physics of Organisms, describing "the poetry and meaning of being alive."
    The Scientific American review of this book says, "The layman may not understand half of this book, but he will understand more than he expects to or may feel he has any right to. The author, whether discussing 'quantum-entanglement,' or 'energy-flow,' 'dynamic order' or life as a 'collective response to weak signals,' has the gift of making the reader dream."

    Thanks for the references!

    Peace.

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    ¡El placer es mío! 。^‿^。
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  8. As far as the first question goes: first answer the question. Then change the subject from “cop” to “person” and answer that. If your second answer is different from the first, you’re an advocate of slavery, unless you’re giving more power to a citizen than the cop.

    You’re also an advocate of slavery if you condone civil property forfeiture, police checkpoints, search without warrants (“the dog alerted”), beatings in custody, and all the other police abuses we increasingly have to put up with. Those are the real issue.

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  9. TheOldOne says:

    Everyone needs to be in STEM! If you don’t like it, tough; LEARN to like it!

    Also, I’m feeling lately that I’m glad Fred lives somewhere else.

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    • Agree: Realist
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  10. 1) When a cop is attacked with deadly force, he should respond with deadly force.

    When anyone is attacked, be they cop or not-cop, they should respond as the specific situation provides, in order to avoid injury. Basically, any attacker deserves what he or she gets, and is presumed to be guilty.

    2) Intelligent design – makes some sense.

    Nature is not intelligent. Nature is what nature is (i.e. energy conforming to circumstantial factors affecting expansion and containment), and “design” is a learned response by the perceiver.

    Immigration

    Stop all immigration. We have more than adequate population to build on. Skills are easily trained — importing skill is counterproductive. Punish all who employ illegal aliens with business-bankrupting fines and imprisonment.

    6) Ants – they have enough neurons to form neural networks to do these tasks.

    Correct. A bogus subtopic in the first place.

    7) Affirmative action – should be completely ended immediately.

    And proponents jailed.

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  11. Cognitive dissonance is to humans as water is to fish.

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  12. whoever says: • Website
    @Talha
    Thanks for the references!

    Peace.

    ¡El placer es mío! 。^‿^。

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  13. Here’s another one:

    In order to achieve perfect ideological consistency, many libertarians trace all their positions back to a single normative axiom, most commonly the non-aggression principle. Yet many of these same libertarians are also atheists. If so, what’s their basis for choosing one axiom over any other to be the foundation of their proposed system? In other words, if you’re asking me to assume there is no divine lawgiver, why should I accept the non-aggression principle as a supreme law? Why should I accept the proposition that the non-aggression principle — and thus libertarianism — is a universally correct guide to action? Where do the rights that libertarians love so much come from if not from a god or from particular societies?

    Any attempt to prove the universality of the non-aggression principle without appealing to divine authority winds up being circular or falling back on some other axiom, such as wealth-maximizing utilitarianism.

    (And just to be clear, I’m not saying that there is or must be a divine lawgiver.)

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    In order to achieve perfect ideological consistency, many libertarians trace all their positions back to a single normative axiom, most commonly the non-aggression principle.
     
    LOL. Ka-boom, huh? Thus, with one strawman doth we defeat godless and horrific afeeism?

    Before you take to shouting "No proof! No proof!", how about you prove your own God? Boy, that'll fix them thar afeeiss!
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  14. POLICE:

    Shoot the thug if he/she continues to pose a threat to the cop’s life & no “non-lethal” options are realistic.

    INTELLIGENT DESIGN:

    Agreed, many wondrous paradoxes remain in nature. But however inadequate, evolutionary theory still seems more useful than “the deity did it.”

    IMMIGRATION:

    You know better than to drag out a straw-man like that — a White-rights advocate is not automatically a “hater.”

    You say you “think mass immigration should not have been permitted.” Well, I sure as hell don’t recall you ever saying that before, and I’ve read a lot of your stuff over the years. You’ve always managed to mock those of us who’ve tried our damnedest to prevent this mess!

    There are still PLENTY we can about the alien invasion without surrendering to your “gee-whiz-we-can’t-deport-them-all” straw-man.

    1) Bring our troops home (from fighting Israel’s imperial wars), and have them defend our own borders, which is what a military is supposed to do. You sure you learned anything in Vietnam??

    2) Mandatory sterilization for anyone who just HAS to come here! If they really really really have to come, they can damn well agree to merely ADD their impact to our over-crowding — and NOT MULTIPLY it.

    3) Since they only come here to “do the jobs lazy Americans won’t do” they don’t need college educations, especially tax-payer funded ones.

    4) Learning English is their responsibility. It’s not our responsibility to provide everything in whatever language they come here with. You see Americans newcomers in Mexico — (however arrogant Americans may be) do they demand to vote in Mexican elections, with ballots printed in English?

    5) Any crime, deportation! INCLUDING shop-lifting. As it is now, they don’t even get deported for stealing our cars, because that’s a “non-violent offense” and it would be cruel of us to “break up their families” (as though Americans are holding their families hostage).

    ANTS:

    No wonder E.O. Wilson finds them so intriguing.

    AFFIRMATIVE ACTION:

    Different races are arguably subspecies, who evolved differences far beyond “the color of their skin.” Some are better at astrophysics & Wall Street scams; others are better at basketball & strong-arm robberies.

    Will everyone ever be able to admit the obvious? Time will tell.

    In the meantime, the “under-privileged” could do themselves (& everyone else) a HUGE favor by not over-breeding. Nothing drives down wages like a burgeoning surplus labor market!

    ———————————————-

    Well, Fred, you asked. Cheers! :-)

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    "Different races are arguably subspecies, who evolved differences far beyond “the color of their skin.” Some are better at astrophysics & Wall Street scams; others are better at basketball & strong-arm robberies.

    Will everyone ever be able to admit the obvious? Time will tell."

    Perhaps but it will be a long time. Most people are just too stupid.

    Your points are excellent.

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  15. Lana Kane says:

    Don’t tell me Fred is chickening out of commenting on Charlottesville, with this ridiculous rehash of his pet intellectual peeves. Where is the fearless Fred (I mean, besides safely south of the border in our hour of need) when we could really use his insight? He would be the perfect guy to enlighten us, given his self-imputed superior understanding of Southern and U.S. history, so obnoxiously on display a few columns back. Does he really have nothing to say about the recent desecration of Southern heritage by Antifa and others, and it’s stalwart defenders in the form of the alt-white, l mean right..er, the white-wing of the right…, you know, the other side?

    Maybe that’s the problem. In fact, I’m starting to understand the attraction of living outside the U.S. If nothing else, you don’t have to take sides in this asylum riot. But as Fred has put himself forward as an authority on all things black and white and Yankee vs. Rebel (not to mention slavery, that thing that the North was guilty of too (and maybe even more so than the poor misunderstood General Lee & Co.! Gosh!)), let us by all means hear from the man about something other than ant neurons, and whether cops should shoot at them when they cross the border illegally.

    So let’s have it Fred, don’t be shy. Have you picked your side yet?

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    Does he really have nothing to say about the recent desecration of Southern heritage
     
    You meant to say "symbols of", dincha?
    , @Pat Kittle
    Antifa
    Anti-f-a
    Anti-First Amendment
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  16. Realist says:
    @Pat Kittle
    POLICE:

    Shoot the thug if he/she continues to pose a threat to the cop's life & no "non-lethal" options are realistic.


    INTELLIGENT DESIGN:

    Agreed, many wondrous paradoxes remain in nature. But however inadequate, evolutionary theory still seems more useful than "the deity did it."


    IMMIGRATION:

    You know better than to drag out a straw-man like that -- a White-rights advocate is not automatically a "hater."

    You say you "think mass immigration should not have been permitted." Well, I sure as hell don't recall you ever saying that before, and I've read a lot of your stuff over the years. You've always managed to mock those of us who've tried our damnedest to prevent this mess!

    There are still PLENTY we can about the alien invasion without surrendering to your "gee-whiz-we-can't-deport-them-all" straw-man.

    1) Bring our troops home (from fighting Israel's imperial wars), and have them defend our own borders, which is what a military is supposed to do. You sure you learned anything in Vietnam??

    2) Mandatory sterilization for anyone who just HAS to come here! If they really really really have to come, they can damn well agree to merely ADD their impact to our over-crowding -- and NOT MULTIPLY it.

    3) Since they only come here to "do the jobs lazy Americans won't do" they don't need college educations, especially tax-payer funded ones.

    4) Learning English is their responsibility. It's not our responsibility to provide everything in whatever language they come here with. You see Americans newcomers in Mexico -- (however arrogant Americans may be) do they demand to vote in Mexican elections, with ballots printed in English?

    5) Any crime, deportation! INCLUDING shop-lifting. As it is now, they don't even get deported for stealing our cars, because that's a "non-violent offense" and it would be cruel of us to "break up their families" (as though Americans are holding their families hostage).


    ANTS:

    No wonder E.O. Wilson finds them so intriguing.


    AFFIRMATIVE ACTION:

    Different races are arguably subspecies, who evolved differences far beyond "the color of their skin." Some are better at astrophysics & Wall Street scams; others are better at basketball & strong-arm robberies.

    Will everyone ever be able to admit the obvious? Time will tell.

    In the meantime, the "under-privileged" could do themselves (& everyone else) a HUGE favor by not over-breeding. Nothing drives down wages like a burgeoning surplus labor market!

    ----------------------------------------------

    Well, Fred, you asked. Cheers!
    :-)

    “Different races are arguably subspecies, who evolved differences far beyond “the color of their skin.” Some are better at astrophysics & Wall Street scams; others are better at basketball & strong-arm robberies.

    Will everyone ever be able to admit the obvious? Time will tell.”

    Perhaps but it will be a long time. Most people are just too stupid.

    Your points are excellent.

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  17. @Clark Westwood
    Here's another one:

    In order to achieve perfect ideological consistency, many libertarians trace all their positions back to a single normative axiom, most commonly the non-aggression principle. Yet many of these same libertarians are also atheists. If so, what's their basis for choosing one axiom over any other to be the foundation of their proposed system? In other words, if you're asking me to assume there is no divine lawgiver, why should I accept the non-aggression principle as a supreme law? Why should I accept the proposition that the non-aggression principle -- and thus libertarianism -- is a universally correct guide to action? Where do the rights that libertarians love so much come from if not from a god or from particular societies?

    Any attempt to prove the universality of the non-aggression principle without appealing to divine authority winds up being circular or falling back on some other axiom, such as wealth-maximizing utilitarianism.

    (And just to be clear, I'm not saying that there is or must be a divine lawgiver.)

    In order to achieve perfect ideological consistency, many libertarians trace all their positions back to a single normative axiom, most commonly the non-aggression principle.

    LOL. Ka-boom, huh? Thus, with one strawman doth we defeat godless and horrific afeeism?

    Before you take to shouting “No proof! No proof!”, how about you prove your own God? Boy, that’ll fix them thar afeeiss!

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  18. @Lana Kane
    Don't tell me Fred is chickening out of commenting on Charlottesville, with this ridiculous rehash of his pet intellectual peeves. Where is the fearless Fred (I mean, besides safely south of the border in our hour of need) when we could really use his insight? He would be the perfect guy to enlighten us, given his self-imputed superior understanding of Southern and U.S. history, so obnoxiously on display a few columns back. Does he really have nothing to say about the recent desecration of Southern heritage by Antifa and others, and it's stalwart defenders in the form of the alt-white, l mean right..er, the white-wing of the right..., you know, the other side?

    Maybe that's the problem. In fact, I'm starting to understand the attraction of living outside the U.S. If nothing else, you don't have to take sides in this asylum riot. But as Fred has put himself forward as an authority on all things black and white and Yankee vs. Rebel (not to mention slavery, that thing that the North was guilty of too (and maybe even more so than the poor misunderstood General Lee & Co.! Gosh!)), let us by all means hear from the man about something other than ant neurons, and whether cops should shoot at them when they cross the border illegally.

    So let's have it Fred, don't be shy. Have you picked your side yet?

    Does he really have nothing to say about the recent desecration of Southern heritage

    You meant to say “symbols of”, dincha?

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  19. temporary measure

    holy hell, I didn’t know this was suppose to be temporary. Now I hate it even more.

    If someone attacks anyone, not just a cop, with a deadly weapon, you are allow to kill to defend yourself. that is my stance.

    I love fred’s questions on immigration :) so many people avoid the real questions, all are posers on both sides.

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  20. What?? No picture of a gorgeous senorita to bolster his case? You be slippin’, Frederico…

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  21. In all seriousness, Fred can be terrific, but his increasing use of straw men is making him a rather tired read.

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  22. Mokiki says:
    @Cynical_Ed
    Good questions, answers seem to be obvious:

    1) When a cop is attacked with deadly force, he should respond with deadly force.

    2) Intelligent design - makes some sense.

    3) Immigration - citizens of Latino descent - celebrate their presence, assist in their integration into society, give them scholarships to university, hire them preferentially over unqualified affirmative action hires.

    4) Immigration - illegal aliens - make it difficult for them to find work, make it easy for them to return to their home country (and it's not just Mexico, it's also Ireland and Central America). Put large financial penalties on employers who hire non-citizens.

    5) Open borders - zero immigration of people without college degrees, unlimited number of immigrants with PhD in STEM, no immigration of "refugees" (they're seldom refugees), limited immigration of people on point system (like Canada and Australia).

    6) Ants - they have enough neurons to form neural networks to do these tasks.

    7) Affirmative action - should be completely ended immediately.

    There - good questions, obvious answers.

    Your solution numero cinco would turn our universities into green card mills. Courts and Democrats would dilute the definition of STEM until included *-studies.

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  23. unit472 says:

    Seems to me we need larger ants to take the place of Mexicans, Negroes and Police.

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  24. Alfa158 says:
    @Cynical_Ed
    Good questions, answers seem to be obvious:

    1) When a cop is attacked with deadly force, he should respond with deadly force.

    2) Intelligent design - makes some sense.

    3) Immigration - citizens of Latino descent - celebrate their presence, assist in their integration into society, give them scholarships to university, hire them preferentially over unqualified affirmative action hires.

    4) Immigration - illegal aliens - make it difficult for them to find work, make it easy for them to return to their home country (and it's not just Mexico, it's also Ireland and Central America). Put large financial penalties on employers who hire non-citizens.

    5) Open borders - zero immigration of people without college degrees, unlimited number of immigrants with PhD in STEM, no immigration of "refugees" (they're seldom refugees), limited immigration of people on point system (like Canada and Australia).

    6) Ants - they have enough neurons to form neural networks to do these tasks.

    7) Affirmative action - should be completely ended immediately.

    There - good questions, obvious answers.

    Ants have about a quarter of a million neurons which is far too small to perform the tasks they can if they were all hard-wired like gates in CPU chip, so has to be some sort of neural network.
    Additionally every individual neuron is a far more complex bit of structure than a transistor. I wonder if each neuron has multiple functional modes that increase the overall effective complexity. In our vision systems our retinas have more cells than neurons in our optic nerve so there is some sort of adaptive mode for sharing the data transfer. In addition, the maximum signal transmission time between any two neurons in an ant will also be a couple orders of magnitude faster due to smaller size so that could help. Effectively more computational operations per second.
    Is it possible that ants are therefore more advanced in terms of the computing efficiency per neuron count? I have 86 billion neurons, ( depending on how much whiskey I’ve consumed in my mis-spent life) and still trip over my feet trying to use just two of them.
    Too bad it is so hard to study the neural mechanics of such small creatures. Maybe we could learn a lot for application to our artificial neural networks. I personally welcome our new AI masters. Not that they’ll care one way or another.

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  25. Cortes says:

    Seems straightforward (¡!) to me that all frontline service providers – police, fire, military, garbage collectors, sewer workers et cetera – need to diversify by recruiting LGBTQ Battalions armed with a fine sense of colour coordination, feather dusters, multi lingual skills other than English and impeccable table manners.

    Thereafter, just bliss, darlings Peace on Earth, Joy to the World…

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  26. @Lana Kane
    Don't tell me Fred is chickening out of commenting on Charlottesville, with this ridiculous rehash of his pet intellectual peeves. Where is the fearless Fred (I mean, besides safely south of the border in our hour of need) when we could really use his insight? He would be the perfect guy to enlighten us, given his self-imputed superior understanding of Southern and U.S. history, so obnoxiously on display a few columns back. Does he really have nothing to say about the recent desecration of Southern heritage by Antifa and others, and it's stalwart defenders in the form of the alt-white, l mean right..er, the white-wing of the right..., you know, the other side?

    Maybe that's the problem. In fact, I'm starting to understand the attraction of living outside the U.S. If nothing else, you don't have to take sides in this asylum riot. But as Fred has put himself forward as an authority on all things black and white and Yankee vs. Rebel (not to mention slavery, that thing that the North was guilty of too (and maybe even more so than the poor misunderstood General Lee & Co.! Gosh!)), let us by all means hear from the man about something other than ant neurons, and whether cops should shoot at them when they cross the border illegally.

    So let's have it Fred, don't be shy. Have you picked your side yet?

    Antifa
    Anti-f-a
    Anti-First Amendment

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  27. whoever says: • Website
    @Alfa158
    Ants have about a quarter of a million neurons which is far too small to perform the tasks they can if they were all hard-wired like gates in CPU chip, so has to be some sort of neural network.
    Additionally every individual neuron is a far more complex bit of structure than a transistor. I wonder if each neuron has multiple functional modes that increase the overall effective complexity. In our vision systems our retinas have more cells than neurons in our optic nerve so there is some sort of adaptive mode for sharing the data transfer. In addition, the maximum signal transmission time between any two neurons in an ant will also be a couple orders of magnitude faster due to smaller size so that could help. Effectively more computational operations per second.
    Is it possible that ants are therefore more advanced in terms of the computing efficiency per neuron count? I have 86 billion neurons, ( depending on how much whiskey I've consumed in my mis-spent life) and still trip over my feet trying to use just two of them.
    Too bad it is so hard to study the neural mechanics of such small creatures. Maybe we could learn a lot for application to our artificial neural networks. I personally welcome our new AI masters. Not that they'll care one way or another.

    Complexity and behaviour in
    Leptothorax ants

    discusses ants as mobile cellular automata.

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  28. Questioning the accepted wisdom and conventional dogmas is legitimate.

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  29. anon says: • Disclaimer

    The term cognitive dissonance was invented in 1957 by Leon Festinger, a social psychologist. It by definition is the mental discomfort derived from maintaining conflicting ideas as valid. It is often referred to by unthinking or witless people who do not understand its meaning, who if they did, would be using the concatenation doublethink which is the assertion or acceptance of conflicting ideas as valid without the discomfort. Doublethink is a concatenation invented by George Orwell in his 1949 book, 1984.

    If the discomfort is avoided, then there is no dissonance. What Fred is actually talking about is Orwellian thought processes, which are inherent in Marxian ideology.

    IF these posed questions are studiously avoided, what does that indicate about the state of mind of the person “avoiding” them? Is it due to mental discomfort, lack of intellectual acuity to observe the conflict, or are they complex problems of a pluralistic society with no easy and certainly no short-term viable solutions?

    “…it is folly to treat moral–personal or political–problems as if they were like mathematical problems. A mathematical problem–for example, calculating the area of a trapezoid–has a solution and, once correctly solved, that is the end of the matter. In contrast, the solution of every personal problem is the source of a new set of problems.” Thomas Szasz, The Meaning of Mind p38

    I expect that people possessed of high moral sensitivity avoid meddling in these issues precisely because there are no solutions that do not impact others in unfair and unintended ways. They tend to mind their own business.

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  30. @Bragadocious
    What policy do you recommend toward those illegals who do not leave?

    If they've committed any crime worse than shoplifting, make them leave. Microchip them so when they approach the border again, alarms on the big beautiful wall go off, triggering a high-pressure spray of water mixed with last night's burrito dinner. And when we send them back, tell them Fred's biker bar in Lake Chapala is not depressing at all, despite the pictures, but is actually a great place to sell fentanyl and get free shots.

    Hey, wait Bradadocious, that’s like, a solution or something. Fred Reed is not into solving problems, only describing them and bitching about his commenters.

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  31. Intelligent Design strikes me as the intellectual version of “kicking the can down the road”. If DNA based life is too complex to have evolved from simpler forms, then whatever entities that designed it would have to be something simpler that evolved on its own or that species of designers would also be an example of an irreducibly complex lifeform.

    I remember in the 90′s there was talk of nano-bacteria, that seemed to be everywhere, that was too small to be DNA-based life. I suggested that this lifeform might represent the remnants of an earlier form of biology that somehow may have created us. My suggestion never got much traction, however.

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  32. Excal says:

    I am always nonplussed when I hear people claim that it is “impossible” for the United States to move twelve million people across one of its borders, even given several years to do it.

    A 747-400 in one-class configuration can carry 660 passengers. At twelve flights a week, flying 50 weeks a year (it would seem a little shabby to deport people on Christmas Day), at 80% average passenger capacity per flight, all twelve million people could be moved in 3.75 years. That’s with a fleet of just one or two airplanes and no busses.

    If those 2,268 flights averaged four hours each and cost $30k/hour, the cost of the flights would be US$272,160,000. On the 3.75 year plan, that’s about $72 million per year. The United States spends more than that on some of its useless regulatory programs.

    Obviously any serious effort to deport the illegals would be much more involved than this, and it could never be carried out literally to completion: but clearly it is quite feasible to do an acceptable job of it.

    As to the “50 million” Latinos legally in the US: are they citizens? By all means let them stay, perhaps provided they at least try to learn English where needed. I would personally wish to see some sort of exception made for anchor-babies, but a deal’s a deal, even if it’s a stupid one. This is all assuming that sane immigration policies were introduced.

    I’ve nothing personally against Hispanics (or any other race in general, for that matter), and no-one could blame the poor sods for taking a chance and heading north, but any programme of replacing one’s citizens with foreigners strikes me as more than a bit sinister.

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  33. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “What policy do you recommend toward American citizens of Latino descent?”

    The rational, and historically proven solution is expulsion.

    After World War II, Poland was recreated by the Allied Powers. In doing so, the Allies sliced off a chunk of Germany and extended Poland west to the Oder-Neisse line. Anywhere from 3.5 million to 9 million Germans were forcibly expelled from the new Polish territory and relocated in Germany.

    British Prime Minister Winston Churchill was pleased with the result. In 1944, he had explained to the House of Commons that “expulsion is the method which, so far as we have been able to see, will be the most satisfactory and lasting. There will be no mixture of populations to cause endless trouble … a clean sweep will be made. I am not alarmed by the prospect of the disentanglement of populations, nor even by these large transferences, which are more possible in modern conditions than they ever were before.” Churchill was right. The Germans accepted the new border, and decades of conflict between Poles and Germans ended.

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  34. Rurik says:

    The Police: A cop sees a man strike a woman in the head with a piece of pipe and grab her purse. He tries to arrest the perp, who resists. The criminal is 19, muscular, and weighs 220. What should the cop do?

    call for backup

    tell the animal to ‘halt’, shoot him in the leg if he tries to run, shoot him in the head if he attacks.

    The perp is big, stoked on PCP, has a length of pipe, and does not want to go to jail. He attacks the cop. What should the cop do when attacked with a deadly weapon?

    duh

    that some biological structures cannot have evolved because they are irreducibly complex, and therefore must have been designed.

    what about non-biological?

    just the complexity of a snow flake is a marvel

    let alone the something like the sun

    seemingly operating according some kind of design. Or just consider the universe, and all its vast goings ons.

    nebulas

    and galaxies

    all following a function of their molecular super-structures, according to the laws of the universe, gravity, etc..

    were they all necessarily designed by an ‘intelligence’?

    or could they have simply come into existence of their own right?

    If irreducible complexity does not exist, then any organism can in principle be traced backward, evolutionary step by evolutionary step, to nonliving matter. In practice of course this is impossible with entire organisms. With simple processes it should be doable.

    scientists have created the amino acids that make up the DNA molecule by recreating the atmospheric conditions on the earth some billions of years ago. And there’s this:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/first-life-with-alien-dna-created-in-lab/

    What policy do you recommend toward American citizens of Latino descent?

    if they’re legal, the same policy for everyone else

    if they’re illegal, arrest and put in prison a man who hired some. Make sure he’s made to do the perp-walk on TV and then show him being hauled off to pound-ass prison for a few years. Tell all American employers that they’ll be next. No more EBT cards or drivers licenses or any freebies whatsoever, like the desperate citizens of California tried to do before they were betrayed by a fecal judge and the reverse ‘manifest destiny’ fait accompli was accomplished and they lost their state.

    They’ll go home.

    Specifically, how many immigrants do you want to accept? What upper limit do you want?

    Zero

    well-healed tourists are more than welcome, if they over stay their visa, it’s off to pound-ass prison.

    If you’re a genius or have tens of million$, perhaps exceptions could be made.

    But then again, it was a very smart hedge fund manager who had lots and lots of millions who bribed the (now corrupt) Sierra Club to stop advocating for an immigration moratorium to save the beleaguered environment. So even if they’re smart and rich, they are still capable of being enemies to the American people. As that ((hedge fund manager)) certainly is.

    How can so very, very little “brain” control such complex behavior?

    ‘There are more things in heaven and earth, than are dreamt of in our philosophies’

    When, specifically, should affirmative action be dropped, and how will we know when we get there?

    when blacks and Mexicans achieve academic and financial parity with whites

    or when we just blend them all into a brown race of bovine-eyed slaves to serve their zio-master$

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  35. Yancey says:

    Fred lost all sensibilities when he took on an unfaithful Jewish wife with an existing litter fathered by a Mexican.

    I don’t think it is the tequila. Fred is revolutionary that fled his nation. He belongs in the third world.

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  36. @Yancey
    Fred lost all sensibilities when he took on an unfaithful Jewish wife with an existing litter fathered by a Mexican.

    I don't think it is the tequila. Fred is revolutionary that fled his nation. He belongs in the third world.

    I think you need to go back to salon.com, where your posts will be thought of as clever.

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  37. Fred G. says:

    One thing that hit me recently is that Latinos have been in what is now the US longer than there was a US. They are a part of our history and cultural heritage for better or for worse.

    Many libertarians have argued that the real problem is not immigration but the welfare state. As the song goes, “Everything’s free in America.” The effects of the welfare state are vast and manifold. It has demonstrably caused everything from declining birthrate to the destruction of the black family and stripping of dignity of inner-city black society by creating multi-generational welfare.

    Unfortunately the welfare state is like the project to detect invisible planes that appears in a certain incredibly funny book about the Vietnam War with a name that cannot be spoken in polite company. It has a constituency that will fight tooth-and-nail to keep it.

    So, we’re doomed to just kinda watching as things come down around our ears, hoping we don’t get hit by the falling pieces.

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