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A Mexican software-engineering firm as conceived by Breitbart News The donkey is the brains of the operation as Mexicans do not have brains. Sigh. Some people need to get out more.

A Mexican software-engineering firm as conceived by Breitbart News The donkey is the brains of the operation as Mexicans do not have brains. Sigh. Some people need to get out more.

In America two narratives about Mexico dominate. The first, chiefly emanating from anti-immigrant ideologues who usually have never been here, holds that Mexicans have low IQs and cannot function at other than a primitive level. Breitbart News and something called Vdare are chief among these. They don’t quite expect to find all Mexicans either robbing banks or sleeping at the foot of cactuses with big hats and a burro, but they come close.

In stark contrast is what one hears from companies involved in high-tech fields. They speak of a large pool of Mexican engineers of high quality in everything from software to robotics. They hire them in droves. These are not assembly-line workers or even manufacturing engineers in traditional industries, such as cars. They are either in tech start-ups like Wizeline, below, or in software-development for big outfits like IBM, Intel, and Oracle, which have a large presence in Guadalajara. More on these in a later column.

The other day I want to Guadalajara to talk to Matt Pasarienski, of Wizeline, a software-services outfit based in San Francisco but with large and growing presence in Mexico. (Wizeline: “Intelligent Solutions, PPM Software, Services, and Chatbots”)

Pasarienski is a wiry, high-energy guy. One can imagine him as a kid in a garage in Silicon Valley, living on Cheetos and Jolt Cola and writing code for days without sleep. Undergrad at Berkeley, PhD in physics, University of Illinois.

Wizeline has two big buildings in the old Kodak facility on Mariana Otero, vast open rooms with rows of desks with screens, lots of young techy-looking people, cafeterias. The atmosphere reminded me of the SpaceX assembly floor in Hawthorne but without the rockets.

Some Wizeliners. The formal dress is characteristic of techies everywhere.
Some Wizeliners. The formal dress is characteristic of techies everywhere.

Pasarienski speaks fast and cogently. “We have 200 (software) engineers and want to hire 1000 more. We now hire about 15-20 a month. They are good, speak English, and learn fast. Definitely good for a world-class enterprise.”

He mentions that Mexico graduates 13,000 software engineers a year, and sees the country as fertile ground for IT start-ups, for which Guadalajara is becoming a hub.

(Interstitial tidbit: Tesla recruiting Mexican robotics engineers.)

Among many other things, Wizeline builds chatbots, roughly software that can intelligently answer questions, either by classic keyboard chat or voice, about products and services. These might, for example, replace the customer-service operators in Mumbai whose accent you cannot understand. This is definitely artificial intelligence, which means that you need real intelligence to figure out how to do it.

Wizeline is not close to unique in hiring local engineers. Bloomberg: “As global automakers pour billions of dollars into their Mexican factories, Marcos Perez is trying to make sure the nation’s future goes beyond assembly lines. The head of product development at Ford Motor’s Mexico unit, Perez has helped the company almost triple its local engineering staff, to nearly 1,000, since 2010. “

Says Pasarienski, “There is a fundamental difference between tech–what we are doing–and traditional manufacturing. To manufacture cars you need a billion-dollar factory, and engineers with a lot of experience. The factory belongs to a company outside of Mexico, which repatriates the profits.

“In what we are doing, AI, nobody has twenty years of experience because the field hasn’t existed that long. We can jump to the head of the line.”

Many tech-oriented people see things this way. I talked to Andreas Kraemer of MItaventures, a venture-capital firm looking to fund start-ups in Mexico. He too wants to tap into local talent. From the website: “Cross-border tech innovation: We see Mexico as the innovation bridge between Latin America and Silicon Valley. We believe there are emerging opportunities for tech startup successes between these regions”

The foregoing is corporate-speak, yes, but bear in mind that these men and countless others are hard-headed, very savvy tech-and-finance guys. They don’t do racial ideology. They do can-we-do-it and will-it-work. And what’s the bottom line.

Pasarienski gives an interesting rationale for Mexico as start-up territory. “It used to be that kids doing a startup lived in a house and built the start-up in the garage. Today things are so expensive in California that they would have to live in the garage. The cost of living eats up more capital than most people have. Mexico is much cheaper, both for rent and paying engineers,”

Actually, technical talent is visible to anyone who lives here in all manner of things. But the ideologues saying how stupid Mexicans are don’t live here. The leaders tend to be talking heads of the Manhattan-DC corridor and, to my certain knowledge, many have written for years of this country’s hopeless primitivism without bothering to visit. I think we call this “fake news.”

The Chiapas, Mexican Navy
The Chiapas, Mexican Navy

Jane’s: “While designated as Oaxaca-class vessels, a type designed by the Mexican Navy, the new OPVs are actually improved derivatives of this class, featuring several modifications, including a bulbous bow and a BAE Systems Bofors Mk.3 57 mm main gun.” Jane is not a girl. Jane’s is probably the world’s leading military magazine.

Further saith Jane’s: “Constructed at the Naval Shipyard (ASTIMAR) N°20 in Salina Cruz, Oaxaca, Chiapas is the first of four OPVs that were ordered as part of the SEMAR 2013-2018 plan. The second, ARM Hidalgo (PO 166), has already been launched and is expected to be commissioned in 2017, while construction of the third ship has already started in Salina Cruz.”

Wired. HOW 4 MEXICAN IMMIGRANT KIDS AND THEIR CHEAP ROBOT BEAT MIT

The robot. a tethered underwater manipulator. Built on a very low budget and a lot of spare parts. Ugly as refried sin. Worked.
The robot. a tethered underwater manipulator. Built on a very low budget and a lot of spare parts. Ugly as refried sin. Worked.

Interesting story, this, from 2004 with here a gee-whizzy slightly lengthy video. Interpret it as you will. In short, four illegals in a lousy high school in Phoenix entered a university-level contest to build an underwater robot. They won. I won’t recap it lengthily here, but follow the links if interested. This was not a softball contest. The judges were heavyweights in submersible design from the US Navy and the petroleum industry.

The team. I am often told by the racialists that anything intelligent done by Mexicans is done only by the white ones. Well, I concede. These kids do look positively Nordic. Swedes is my guess. When they won, the MIT team had the grace to give them a standing ovation. (The book on the contest, Spare Parts, is a good read.)
The team. I am often told by the racialists that anything intelligent done by Mexicans is done only by the white ones. Well, I concede. These kids do look positively Nordic. Swedes is my guess. When they won, the MIT team had the grace to give them a standing ovation. (The book on the contest, Spare Parts, is a good read.)
The Mastretta MXT, designed and built entirely in Mexico. 0-60 mph, 4.9 sec, tops out at 150, sort of $60K. The company then died in some corporate dispute.
The Mastretta MXT, designed and built entirely in Mexico. 0-60 mph, 4.9 sec, tops out at 150, sort of $60K. The company then died in some corporate dispute.

The British automotive show Top Gear, having made snotty remarks about the very idea of the Mexicans making a sports car, received a great deal of flack, and so a staffer to test drive it in Mexico. He noted that first cars in a country were usually cheap family boxes and that it was unusual to go straight to a sports car. He concluded that it was a decent enough car despite some fixable teething problems.

Aaagh. Enough. The point here for anyone interested in the United States and its neighbor is that a lot of growth in tech ffelds is going on here which businessmen have most assuredly noticed. This has not gotten through to the recorded messages who write for Breitbart and its metastases.

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. In other words, Mexico is not this benighted prison where cruel Americans keep all the Mexicans locked up. Good to know. The talented, vibrant Mexicans can stay and keep doing what makes Mexico so great. They can also admit more of their ethnic kin from Central America to enjoy their prosperity instead of cynically spiriting them north.

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    • Agree: syonredux, Sarah Toga
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    The Central American migrants aren't ethnic kin-in reality as well as in perception-for the criollos who decide things in Mexico. They view their own excess mestizo proletariat with ill-disguised contempt. All the while, the descendants of the conquistadors cynically pass themselves off as Oppressed People of Color for gullible progressive American audiences who fail to understand that race works differently in Latin America. (See Jim Acosta or Jorge Ramos.)

    As for the tech sector in Latin America, it might not get the same headlines that Shenzhen or the Negev Desert gets, but it is shaping up to be a real dark horse for the mid-21st Century. A particularly interesting and high-potential corridor-with probably greater potential than anything in Mexico-lies in the state of Sao Paulo in Brazil. If there's going to be a Silicon Valley in South America, that's where it'll be.

    However, there's still massive amounts of red tape and stifling government bureaucracy to deal with, and it's also tricky to attract the right foreigners.

    , @in the middle
    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question.
    I will give a story. I was in the Guadalajara Airport, and noticed another American couple. I asked if they were going back to the States, and responded brusquely, 'You cannot pay me enough to go back!"
    Comments like yours comes from those described above of ignoramus who have never left their little village in Kansas, or Nebraska, whose judgement comes from ignorance.
    , @Santos
    Yeah, in spite of great efforts for centuries by gringos to use Mexico and steal from Mexico constantly in so many ways, Mexico is pulling through. I don't doubt that the Us will try harder to put Mexico down.
    , @Sarah Toga
    . . . hmmm . . . something about that pic of the young Mex-Techs . . .

    do I see Mestizos? . . . do I see pure-blood Mayan? . . .

    why, I think I see mostly ethnic Spaniards . . . (there were also a good amount of Germans who migrated to Mexico) . . . maybe one Oriental . . . so, we're talking about the ethnic Europeans (and Orientals) in Mexico.

    Not the Mestizos and Central American Amerindians that those governments racially discriminate against and cynically send to the USA - while our criminal DemoRepub Uniparty Cheap Votes/Cheap Labor Establishment gleefully welcomes.
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  2. Sean says:

    OK I believe you; Mexico can produce high tech. But do Mexicans in demanding high tech fields do well in Mexico because a traditional strict Mexican culture of family supervision makes them flourish? How will they fare when brought up in the permissive US; that is the question. The evidence for negative assimilation in educational attainment heath and crime for second and third generation immigrants seems to indicate Mexicans do not do well when brought up in the US (I won’t post the Economist article again) . Mexican culture has some value for getting the best out of Mexicans, but Fred is a genetic determinist.

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  3. Sean says:

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/do-we-really-want-immigrants-to-assimilate/

    Further evidence that English acquisition does not necessarily lead to the positive outcomes we expect, emerges from recent ethnographic research on the school performance of Latino adolescents. Several such studies report that although newly arrived students experience significant adjustment problems attributable to their rural backgrounds, inadequate schooling, and poor English-language skills, their typically positive attitudes contribute to relative academic success. Yet among Latino students born in the United States, the opposite is often the case. Despite fluency in English and familiarity with American schools, many such students are prone to adopt an adversarial stance toward school and a cynical anti-achievement ethic.

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  4. So glad we have yet another piece from Federico Rojo enlightening us of how brilliant the little brown hatchet faced men south of the Rio Grande are–unnoticed by us rubes all these years!

    I’ll say it again Fred–just because you stick your dick in a spic doesn’t mean you need to cuck for Mexico.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    ... because you stick your dick in a spic...
     
    Heh! You must have read yourself some Dr. Suess. It's big right now.

    Just came here for the comments this time.
    , @neutral

    I’ll say it again Fred–just because you stick your dick in a spic doesn’t mean you need to cuck for Mexico.
     
    This is hardly a new phenomenon, during the British empire there were the types that "went native", they would usually end up denouncing the British way, which does make sense somewhat. They don't want their offspring belonging to a lower rung in the civilizational world, I would bet that Reeds Mestizo offspring motivate him to write what he writes, but deep down subconciously he probably knows the ultimate truth of it but would never be able to say this in public or even to himself.
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  5. Mexico is a wonderland of high tech startups and well educated tech people! Who knew? So those DACA slobs should be happy to be emancipated from the USA and be allowed to go back there and make money!
    BYE!

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    • Replies: @Alden
    I read somewhere that the Mexican national school system wants to fast track them to a teacher certificate because of their good English skills.
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  6. This is the Chanda Chisala argument all over again

    Look! a few cherry picked blacks managed to win a couple of obscure games/ intellectual contests/youth contests.

    There’s nothing impressive about winning a engineering design contest since there are literally thousands of similar contests every year.

    Now if 20% of these contests were being won by teams full of illegals or Mexicans every year that would be another story. But you cherry picked one contest that 1 year had a team full of illegals.

    Also making a chatbot is something that most average programmers can do, the same with training neural networks.

    There are different levels of working on ai. And not everybody that works on ai is a genius.

    Ordinary people can easily learn to use ai software that is readily available to make say product specific chatbots.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_deep_learning_software

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network_software

    The imo math results, pisa results show that human capital is low in Mexico

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Indeed, the piece is a strawman gone wild.

    Nobody says that ALL "Mexicans have low IQs and cannot function at other than a primitive level."

    It's just that most Mexicans DO have low IQs and cannot function at other than a primitive level.

    Witness, well, Mexico and Mexican infested regions within the US.

    , @Alden
    Most public and private high schools in the State of California have robotics classes and contests and clubs. It's the latest educational fad supposedly to prepare the kids for jobs in robotics. High school websites all have pictures of their robotics clubs.

    BFD
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  7. Vasilios says:

    Hey now Fred, Carl Hayden is a perfectly good high school, why would you call it lousy?

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  8. The story of the kids who built the ROV was pretty interesting. Four Mexican kids and two white teachers built a working ROV from junk and placed third in the objective tests. That’s pretty good.

    Unfortunately, the two prizes for which they came in first were entirely subjective. We will never know whether they actually won those prizes fairly of if the judges were magnanimous towards the plucky ESL kids from one of our most backward States.

    The followup on these four unsung geniuses is also interesting. As of 2014, one is a cook, one is a janitorial supervisor, one joined the Army and now works for a rail company, and the last works at Home Depot. (The article lists other jobs for some of them, but I strongly suspect that I’ve identified their primary sources of income. “Catering business” is also what bored wives of well-heeled lawyers do to help pass the lonely hours of the day.)

    I suppose that their current situation could be blamed on systemic racism and the problems illegal aliens have integrating in this country, though I note that the one who was a US citizen became a janitorial supervisor.

    Another, less charitable reason would be that they were average to above-average intelligent boys who were able to work on a problem and solve it with the help of two guys who put the time in to teach them; and this can-do attitude struck a chord with the judges and they awarded these kids top prize because the other teams weren’t nearly as interesting. (Meaning in this case “all white.”)

    Like Fred, I don’t buy into the idea that Mexico is a third-world hellhole. There are parts of it closer to Manhattan than Bombay, and large parts of it where a Southern boy would likely find himself quite at home. But there are parts of it that are very poor, very rural, and not given to fitting in with an advanced civilization, and the people from that part are the ones coming here.

    And that’s the problem. It’s like emptying out every trailer park from Arkansas to West Virginia and sending them to Palo Alto (and what a great idea that is).

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    You are stealing my s***. LOL

    I grew up in a small city in CA that was 1/2 Mexican. But things were different then (1960s-70s) . Few illegals, most everyone spoke English, apart from the transitory (and mostly male) farmworkers . For YEARS I have been telling anyone who will listen Mexico is not a simple binary question. And I stress over and over what you mention in the last two paragraphs.

    We certainly aren't getting their best. We aren't even getting their average. We are getting Mexico's West Virginia and Mississippi.

    I understand that, b/c I grew up with the SOBs. LOL. But for the many Americans who first exposure to Mexicans is the illegal tidal wave of the past quarter century, you can understand what opinions they might reasonably form.
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  9. Fred used to love to talk about Embraer aircraft out of Brazil. Yes they do make fine airplanes but note the board of directors.

    I’ve had enough travels into Latin American to recognize, albeit not official but certainly unmistakable caste system. Those of highest European/Spanish/Portogease DNA rule the high tech, managerial, medical doctors, high level government position roost. Those kids who can code are not the ones jumping the border.

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    That is true. Many of Embraer's technically skilled employees appear German looking, Scandinavian or a mixture of Northern and Western Europeans ethnic groups. If they were standing among a group of Americans you'd almost think the Embraer Brazilians were American the Americans were the Brazilians.

    They definitely are not squat, dark skinned Indians who came out of the rain forest.
    , @Wally
    And note the practically all euro white Mexican Congress:

    https://www.jsg.utexas.edu/lacp/files/mexico-congress.jpg

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  10. @Thorfinnsson
    So glad we have yet another piece from Federico Rojo enlightening us of how brilliant the little brown hatchet faced men south of the Rio Grande are--unnoticed by us rubes all these years!

    I'll say it again Fred--just because you stick your dick in a spic doesn't mean you need to cuck for Mexico.

    … because you stick your dick in a spic…

    Heh! You must have read yourself some Dr. Suess. It’s big right now.

    Just came here for the comments this time.

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  11. KenH says:
    @George Taylor
    Fred used to love to talk about Embraer aircraft out of Brazil. Yes they do make fine airplanes but note the board of directors.

    http://www.relatoweb.com.br/embraer/12/sites/default/files//conselho_en.png

    I've had enough travels into Latin American to recognize, albeit not official but certainly unmistakable caste system. Those of highest European/Spanish/Portogease DNA rule the high tech, managerial, medical doctors, high level government position roost. Those kids who can code are not the ones jumping the border.

    That is true. Many of Embraer’s technically skilled employees appear German looking, Scandinavian or a mixture of Northern and Western Europeans ethnic groups. If they were standing among a group of Americans you’d almost think the Embraer Brazilians were American the Americans were the Brazilians.

    They definitely are not squat, dark skinned Indians who came out of the rain forest.

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    Except that Argentina and Uruguay are both 98% white. Which is to say, they are both much whiter than the US or Canada.

    Plus, many of the whites there are Germans, who are supposedly the most productive of all.

    Yet, Argentina has the same per capita GDP as Mexico. This effectively busts the white = high IQ = civilization belief that simple-minded WNs cling to.
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  12. “These kids do look positively Nordic. Swedes is my guess.”

    Too pale to be modern-day Swedes, Fred.

    BTW, I’m ready to buy into the Mexican Tech miracle, but when are the Mexicans going to build the damn wall to keep the gringo wetback engineers out and away from taking the jobs of Mexican engineers?

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  13. KenH says:

    I think by now we know that Mexico is the best kept secret in the Western hemisphere. Trouble is, about 50% of Mexicans don’t know it since they wish to immigrate to America or Canada.

    I’m sure the dumping of Mexico’s genetic wastrels onto America has had a eugenic effect in Mexico while it’s having a dysgenic effect in the U.S.

    Mexico is a bastion of freedom, modernity, progress and enlightenment yet are still experiencing record high levels of murder and violent crime. I know, I know, somehow the wicked and ignorant Anglos are responsible for this.

    http://www.newsweek.com/crime-mexico-murder-rate-reaches-record-high-and-nobody-talking-about-it-628193

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  14. I agree with Mr. Reed that many Americans have a poor view of Mexican citizens because we mostly encounter their unwanted refugees, criminals, and unemployed. If the USA could send all their unwanteds to Canada, they would think poorly of Americans. But if Mexico is so advanced, why do they encourage all these valuable laborers to flood into the USA?

    It’s nice that Mr. Reed highlights a few small sectors of Mexico’s economy based on tech, but those are growing because American corporations use the “free trade” spin to move factories to a nation where wages are one-fourth as much and environmental laws are weak. These are key issues that Mr. Reed chose not to include, but he did find space to bash the few groups in the USA who oppose corporate America’s effort to flood the USA with ever more cheap labor.

    Mr. Reed is living comfortably on checks from the US Government, and can’t understand why American workers oppose flooding the nation with cheaper foreign labor. It is no secret that Mexico fears the crime and poverty wave that would result if the USA returns millions of its unwanted citizens back home. Mr. Reed may be forced to return to the safety of Alabama.

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    It is no secret that Mexico fears the crime and poverty wave that would result if the USA returns millions of its unwanted citizens back home.
     
    Absolutely agree.

    We are having a related discussion over in the other comments thread:


    Mexico’s population pyramid is actually not that dissimilar to Syria’s. What likely prevented a full-blown civil war like in Syria there, is probably the close proximity to the U.S. and its labor market, which has acted as a safety relief valve.
    [...]
    Can Mexico Harness Its Demographic Dividend?
    [...]
    It may take off or it may collapse.
    [...]
    Given these demographics, the only way for the country to avert disaster lies in achieving economic and social inclusion for young people. This is a very large challenge considering Mexico’s profound inequality: 52 million people, 46 percent of the population, live in poverty alongside the richest man on Earth – Carlos Slim Helú. These extreme disparities are straining social cohesion
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jpetras/how-billionaires-become-billionaires/#comment-2043167

    Comparison Mexico and U.S. Population Pyramids 2000 and 2025

    http://homepage.smc.edu/buckley_alan/ps2/mexico/pyramid.gif

    Doing Business in Mexico: A Look at the Opportunities & Challenges

    http://www.nathanlustig.com/2017/07/12/business-mexico-look-opportunities-challenges/

    Unfortunately, one of the biggest challenges facing Mexico continues to be violence related to organized crime and corruption both in the government and with local police. President Peña Nieto is focused on increasing security spending from 1.5% to 5% of GDP (the same level that worked for Colombia).
    [...]
    The lack of competition in Mexico is also a hamper to growth in some key sectors of the economy. For example, Carlos Slim, a Mexican telecom tycoon and the world’s richest man in 2007, owns three companies which control 70% of mobile phones, 80% of home phone lines, and 70% of broadband in Mexico.
     
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  15. Daniel H says:

    Bravo for Mexico. I want only good things for Mexicans and Mexico. I also want good things for Americans and America.

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  16. Issac says:

    I had always wondered why California would seek to drown itself in Mexican immigration. Silicon Valley seems to have overlooked them given the state is damn near half mestizo and the Big Four are ~5% or less. Boy are they going to be thrilled when they read this!

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    This is why in one sentence.


    Our biggest wealth is agriculture which will still be here when STEM moves elsewhere and the farmers want cheap, cheaper and cheapest labor.
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  17. Dave337 says:

    Fair enough, though I never noticed any number of Mexican Engineers in Silicon Valley, but Mexico is their country. I suppose some could argue by asking how many are Aztecs and how many of Spanish descent but then Silicon Valley has more foreign engineers than American (born). I wonder if their night shift clean up crew is all Americans that don’t speak the language?

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  18. nebulafox says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    In other words, Mexico is not this benighted prison where cruel Americans keep all the Mexicans locked up. Good to know. The talented, vibrant Mexicans can stay and keep doing what makes Mexico so great. They can also admit more of their ethnic kin from Central America to enjoy their prosperity instead of cynically spiriting them north.

    The Central American migrants aren’t ethnic kin-in reality as well as in perception-for the criollos who decide things in Mexico. They view their own excess mestizo proletariat with ill-disguised contempt. All the while, the descendants of the conquistadors cynically pass themselves off as Oppressed People of Color for gullible progressive American audiences who fail to understand that race works differently in Latin America. (See Jim Acosta or Jorge Ramos.)

    As for the tech sector in Latin America, it might not get the same headlines that Shenzhen or the Negev Desert gets, but it is shaping up to be a real dark horse for the mid-21st Century. A particularly interesting and high-potential corridor-with probably greater potential than anything in Mexico-lies in the state of Sao Paulo in Brazil. If there’s going to be a Silicon Valley in South America, that’s where it’ll be.

    However, there’s still massive amounts of red tape and stifling government bureaucracy to deal with, and it’s also tricky to attract the right foreigners.

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  19. Blame the Protestants and the Black Legend. I come from a line of Masonic Methodists and I know where all the anti-Mexican propaganda comes from. There’s no use in pretending at this point.

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    • Replies: @Ace
    So anti-Mexican propaganda is because of Protestants? Whoa.

    What is the black legend?
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  20. Fred just isn’t at his best on the subject of Mexico. His characterization of vDare is highly inaccurate. I have never detected hostility towards Mexicans in Mexico on that site. It’s the effect that Mexicans and Central Americans (and even Mexicans don’t want them) have on the culture in the United States that vDare criticizes.

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    I have hostility to Mexicans in Mexico for their outrageous crime of believing themselves equal to Americans.

    They, and Federico Rojo, must be punished for this heresy.
    , @M_Young
    Indeed, Alan Wall one of Vdare's main contributor, has a Mexican Mestiza wife and actually had kids with her. He lived in the country for years. His criticism of Mexico is more of its corruption, its nationalism and its hypocrisy than anything else.
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  21. Ok, then. I’m calling it quits on old Freddy. I get it, Fred. Mexico is awesome, and they fully deserve to re-capture our country. All who oppose this, for any and all reasons are hopelessly backward, White (shudder) supremacists. We will skip over the idea of them staying in their incredible country and improving it, presumably because no improvements are possible or necessary (due to…America? They’ve reached their apex?. Vdare??).
    It doesn’t matter, anyway. America is truly doomed, as the present generation cannot be brought back to someplace they’ve never been, or taught to oppose (((those))) who demand they hate their own kind.
    Still, there is no reason to support, or entertain, anyone who buys in to our genocide, regardless of their race.

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  22. @Diversity Heretic
    Fred just isn't at his best on the subject of Mexico. His characterization of vDare is highly inaccurate. I have never detected hostility towards Mexicans in Mexico on that site. It's the effect that Mexicans and Central Americans (and even Mexicans don't want them) have on the culture in the United States that vDare criticizes.

    I have hostility to Mexicans in Mexico for their outrageous crime of believing themselves equal to Americans.

    They, and Federico Rojo, must be punished for this heresy.

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  23. In stark contrast is what one hears from companies involved in high-tech fields. They speak of a large pool of Mexican engineers of high quality in everything from software to robotics. They hire them in droves. These are not assembly-line workers or even manufacturing engineers in traditional industries, such as cars. They are either in tech start-ups like Wizeline, below, or in software-development for big outfits like IBM, Intel, and Oracle, which have a large presence in Guadalajara. More on these in a later column.

    Just a month ago was audited on behalf of one major Aerospace Company by a guy from Mexico. Excellent dude, knowledgeable, albeit with English worse than mine. Yet, he also spoke Spanish, French and Portuguese. Only positive impressions. He liked me too, so I passed audit, naturally;)

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  24. Rurik says:

    (((those))) who demand they hate their own kind.

    Still, there is no reason to support, or entertain, anyone who buys in to our genocide, regardless of their race.

    back in the day, when the US cavalry was putting down an Apache insurrection, and attempting to get at some particularly ‘bad hombres’ holed up in Apache territory, they were often at a disadvantage, because the Apaches knew the land and knew the hideouts.

    So what the US Cavalry did was enlist some disgruntled Apache ‘braves’ as their scouts. A few perks like regular meals and a Yankee soldier’s jacket usually did the trick

    Fred is like modern a day Apache scout. He’s being used by La Raza as ‘one of us’, to reverse infect us, only not with polio, but with white-guilt and shame for being so ‘racist’, and not embracing these people’s imperative to retake ‘their’ lands from the evil white racist people who stole it.

    I wonder how a dozen or so fires started simultaneously in California?

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    Pure coincidence.
    It must be, because the same thing happens every year in Australia.
    , @Alden
    Some of those simultaneous fires were 200 miles apart. A relative of mine and his wife are the only two people on their hill who survived. They woke up when the neighbors propane tanks exploded. They had to drive their car through the back fence because the key to the lock was in the house which was already burning. Then he had to get the car over a ditch. As they drove down the fire road in back of the houses they could hear the neighbors, kids and all screaming as they were burnt to death.

    That was not far from the park where the illegal alien felon was arrested shortly after he started a fire.
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    This Fred Reed piece is absolutely clueless, if Mexico is so brimming with this superb talent, then what exactly happened that Mexico is like it is? It cannot even use the Sub Saharan African excuse that it was under colonial rule until recently. Mexico is a country that can at very best be called mediocre, nothing of note has come from it, if he sincerely believes that Mexicans are equal to whites (I think might believe them to be superior even) then what is holding it back?

    As for this thing he said:

    The foregoing is corporate-speak, yes, but bear in mind that these men and countless others are hard-headed, very savvy tech-and-finance guys. They don’t do racial ideology. They do can-we-do-it and will-it-work. And what’s the bottom line

    This is simply laughable, he does not even have to read the other people writing at Unz to be aware just how ideological left wing and activist Silicon Valley is these days. I already said he was absolutely clueless, another reason for this is that he clearly has zero idea what is happening in the big corporate world these days, pushing for diversity and hounding out whites is one of their major goals, so much so that it has taken precedence over profits.

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    "Mexico is a country that can at very best be called mediocre, nothing of note has come from it ...."
     
    Dude, they gave us Tacos and Chimichangas and stuff like that. Surely that must count for something.
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  27. neutral says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    So glad we have yet another piece from Federico Rojo enlightening us of how brilliant the little brown hatchet faced men south of the Rio Grande are--unnoticed by us rubes all these years!

    I'll say it again Fred--just because you stick your dick in a spic doesn't mean you need to cuck for Mexico.

    I’ll say it again Fred–just because you stick your dick in a spic doesn’t mean you need to cuck for Mexico.

    This is hardly a new phenomenon, during the British empire there were the types that “went native”, they would usually end up denouncing the British way, which does make sense somewhat. They don’t want their offspring belonging to a lower rung in the civilizational world, I would bet that Reeds Mestizo offspring motivate him to write what he writes, but deep down subconciously he probably knows the ultimate truth of it but would never be able to say this in public or even to himself.

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    My strong recollection and impression is that you are spouting nonsense, gratuitously offensive too, but above all wrong. What makes you think Fred has part Mexican children?. And if he has what makes you think they are mestizo?
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  28. Wow, it’s almost as if the IQ of Mexicans are distributed on some sort of curve, and that in today’s interconnected world of self-promotion, the creamed-corn of the crop will get noticed for their talents! Who’d a thunk!?

    Also, doesn’t Fred’s first example just show that Tech has now realized how to outsource coding? One of the perceived last bastions of smart white Americans? Guarantee Pasarienski doesn’t pay them the going rate in the US.

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  29. @Demeter Last
    The story of the kids who built the ROV was pretty interesting. Four Mexican kids and two white teachers built a working ROV from junk and placed third in the objective tests. That's pretty good.

    Unfortunately, the two prizes for which they came in first were entirely subjective. We will never know whether they actually won those prizes fairly of if the judges were magnanimous towards the plucky ESL kids from one of our most backward States.

    The followup on these four unsung geniuses is also interesting. As of 2014, one is a cook, one is a janitorial supervisor, one joined the Army and now works for a rail company, and the last works at Home Depot. (The article lists other jobs for some of them, but I strongly suspect that I've identified their primary sources of income. "Catering business" is also what bored wives of well-heeled lawyers do to help pass the lonely hours of the day.)

    I suppose that their current situation could be blamed on systemic racism and the problems illegal aliens have integrating in this country, though I note that the one who was a US citizen became a janitorial supervisor.

    Another, less charitable reason would be that they were average to above-average intelligent boys who were able to work on a problem and solve it with the help of two guys who put the time in to teach them; and this can-do attitude struck a chord with the judges and they awarded these kids top prize because the other teams weren't nearly as interesting. (Meaning in this case "all white.")

    Like Fred, I don't buy into the idea that Mexico is a third-world hellhole. There are parts of it closer to Manhattan than Bombay, and large parts of it where a Southern boy would likely find himself quite at home. But there are parts of it that are very poor, very rural, and not given to fitting in with an advanced civilization, and the people from that part are the ones coming here.

    And that's the problem. It's like emptying out every trailer park from Arkansas to West Virginia and sending them to Palo Alto (and what a great idea that is).

    You are stealing my s***. LOL

    I grew up in a small city in CA that was 1/2 Mexican. But things were different then (1960s-70s) . Few illegals, most everyone spoke English, apart from the transitory (and mostly male) farmworkers . For YEARS I have been telling anyone who will listen Mexico is not a simple binary question. And I stress over and over what you mention in the last two paragraphs.

    We certainly aren’t getting their best. We aren’t even getting their average. We are getting Mexico’s West Virginia and Mississippi.

    I understand that, b/c I grew up with the SOBs. LOL. But for the many Americans who first exposure to Mexicans is the illegal tidal wave of the past quarter century, you can understand what opinions they might reasonably form.

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  30. @neutral
    This Fred Reed piece is absolutely clueless, if Mexico is so brimming with this superb talent, then what exactly happened that Mexico is like it is? It cannot even use the Sub Saharan African excuse that it was under colonial rule until recently. Mexico is a country that can at very best be called mediocre, nothing of note has come from it, if he sincerely believes that Mexicans are equal to whites (I think might believe them to be superior even) then what is holding it back?

    As for this thing he said:


    The foregoing is corporate-speak, yes, but bear in mind that these men and countless others are hard-headed, very savvy tech-and-finance guys. They don’t do racial ideology. They do can-we-do-it and will-it-work. And what’s the bottom line
     
    This is simply laughable, he does not even have to read the other people writing at Unz to be aware just how ideological left wing and activist Silicon Valley is these days. I already said he was absolutely clueless, another reason for this is that he clearly has zero idea what is happening in the big corporate world these days, pushing for diversity and hounding out whites is one of their major goals, so much so that it has taken precedence over profits.

    “Mexico is a country that can at very best be called mediocre, nothing of note has come from it ….”

    Dude, they gave us Tacos and Chimichangas and stuff like that. Surely that must count for something.

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    Counts for me!
    , @Alden
    One good thing I can say about Mexicans. Mexican mechanics in my experience are both very competent and honest.

    But unlike Fred, I won't write articles praising Mex Americans because of good experiences with Mexican mechanics.
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    @The Alarmist

    "Mexico is a country that can at very best be called mediocre, nothing of note has come from it ...."
     
    Dude, they gave us Tacos and Chimichangas and stuff like that. Surely that must count for something.

    Counts for me!

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  32. Fred Reed is accusing others of being a recorded message? Isn’t that precious.

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  33. This post is simply embarrassing.

    Fred, I know that you love your wife (whom I’m quite sure is a fine, intelligent person) and your adopted homeland (which I’m also quite sure has many delightful parts), but you can still be objective.

    To argue with this post would like arguing with a drunk.

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  34. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Carlton Meyer
    I agree with Mr. Reed that many Americans have a poor view of Mexican citizens because we mostly encounter their unwanted refugees, criminals, and unemployed. If the USA could send all their unwanteds to Canada, they would think poorly of Americans. But if Mexico is so advanced, why do they encourage all these valuable laborers to flood into the USA?

    It's nice that Mr. Reed highlights a few small sectors of Mexico's economy based on tech, but those are growing because American corporations use the "free trade" spin to move factories to a nation where wages are one-fourth as much and environmental laws are weak. These are key issues that Mr. Reed chose not to include, but he did find space to bash the few groups in the USA who oppose corporate America's effort to flood the USA with ever more cheap labor.

    Mr. Reed is living comfortably on checks from the US Government, and can't understand why American workers oppose flooding the nation with cheaper foreign labor. It is no secret that Mexico fears the crime and poverty wave that would result if the USA returns millions of its unwanted citizens back home. Mr. Reed may be forced to return to the safety of Alabama.

    It is no secret that Mexico fears the crime and poverty wave that would result if the USA returns millions of its unwanted citizens back home.

    Absolutely agree.

    We are having a related discussion over in the other comments thread:

    Mexico’s population pyramid is actually not that dissimilar to Syria’s. What likely prevented a full-blown civil war like in Syria there, is probably the close proximity to the U.S. and its labor market, which has acted as a safety relief valve.
    [...]
    Can Mexico Harness Its Demographic Dividend?
    [...]
    It may take off or it may collapse.
    [...]
    Given these demographics, the only way for the country to avert disaster lies in achieving economic and social inclusion for young people. This is a very large challenge considering Mexico’s profound inequality: 52 million people, 46 percent of the population, live in poverty alongside the richest man on Earth – Carlos Slim Helú. These extreme disparities are straining social cohesion

    http://www.unz.com/jpetras/how-billionaires-become-billionaires/#comment-2043167

    Comparison Mexico and U.S. Population Pyramids 2000 and 2025

    Doing Business in Mexico: A Look at the Opportunities & Challenges

    http://www.nathanlustig.com/2017/07/12/business-mexico-look-opportunities-challenges/

    Unfortunately, one of the biggest challenges facing Mexico continues to be violence related to organized crime and corruption both in the government and with local police. President Peña Nieto is focused on increasing security spending from 1.5% to 5% of GDP (the same level that worked for Colombia).
    [...]
    The lack of competition in Mexico is also a hamper to growth in some key sectors of the economy. For example, Carlos Slim, a Mexican telecom tycoon and the world’s richest man in 2007, owns three companies which control 70% of mobile phones, 80% of home phone lines, and 70% of broadband in Mexico.

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  35. @The Anti-Gnostic
    In other words, Mexico is not this benighted prison where cruel Americans keep all the Mexicans locked up. Good to know. The talented, vibrant Mexicans can stay and keep doing what makes Mexico so great. They can also admit more of their ethnic kin from Central America to enjoy their prosperity instead of cynically spiriting them north.

    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question.
    I will give a story. I was in the Guadalajara Airport, and noticed another American couple. I asked if they were going back to the States, and responded brusquely, ‘You cannot pay me enough to go back!”
    Comments like yours comes from those described above of ignoramus who have never left their little village in Kansas, or Nebraska, whose judgement comes from ignorance.

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    people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question
     
    that has been my experience in all the S. American and Caribbean countries I've visited

    they simply don't have the roiling, over-the-top race hatred

    but if all in the sudden, all the institutions of Mexico and their media and government decided to act as if the Mexican people were congenitally evil and racist. for instance for not allowing enough Guatemalans or Africans to immigrate, or because Mexicans have Spanish (racist, European, genocidal) blood in their veins, and that they're guilty and owe, and owe and owe an eternal debt to all the non-Mexican people of the world, and need to pay, and hold their racist heads down, and beg mercy from every person of color for genociding the Indians and enslaving the blacks, and Holocausting the Jews....

    and if the Mexican men were all codified by law as second class citizens, for their privilege and their historic crimes....

    then, just perhaps, Mexico and Mexican men might get the slightest glimmer of the kind of visceral race hate that permeates every walk down the street or trip to the grocery store.

    white men in the US are treated like Palestinians

    as defamed and debased second class citizens who're evil by their very natures, and must be replaced and punished for the guilt of their ethnicity

    try that in Mexico and see what that does to the fabric of Mexican society and the tenor of race relations.

    it's just rather sad to see Fred of all people piling on the working class white man of America for not feeling enough guilt for all his privilege, and not demanding he import millions more first class citizens to take his place for jobs or promotions or university slots for his children. all of whom are officially considered privileged, no matter how poor or underprivileged, and ordered to the back of every line behind every Mexican (and everyone else) who can get to these shores and hold up their brown skin as a mark of distain and debt owed to them all by the hated and reviled (always working class) white man.

    (Fuck you Fred ; )

    , @Rich
    You love Mexico, huh? Where? Some gringo vacation spot? I've been to the real Mexico, shanty houses, dirt poor people, open prostitution and drug use. Of course there are nice parts of Mexico, I'm sure there's nice parts of Beirut, too, does that mean that there should be no border between the US and Mexico?

    By the way, you're aware there's a serious drug war going on in your adopted country, right? Maybe you should learn to read Spanish so you can check out some of the local newspapers.
    , @Truth

    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly,
     
    LOL, hey, I've heard getting away from Whitey is like that. For some reason though I keep giving you folks another chance...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFVUYy1bzg
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Again, all the more reason Mexicans can stay put instead of moving north to lecture white Americans on how awful they are.
    , @Anon
    I've always approved of Anglo-Saxon whites who move to places like Mexico. In fact, there should be millions of them. We improve the place. Now, if we could convince the Mexican poor to get over their Catholic guilt and start using enough birth control to drop their population levels below replacement rate, we might actually start being able to make something remarkable out of the country.

    It never seems to occur to anybody that large-scale white immigration to other countries would cure a lot of their problems for them. Colonize them they way the British did the US back in the 1600s and 1700s. It made the US a great country, and we can do it to other places, too. The only reason white colonization failed in other places like India is because sensitive whites allowed themselves to be guilt-tripped out of power. Nonetheless, we left huge cultural, industrial, and economic benefits everywhere we went, as the aboriginals sulkily recognize.

    Anyway, what Mexico needs to fix its problems is a higher-quality population, and everybody knows it.
    , @Alden
    Most of those advice for foreign retirement articles claim it is easier for Americans who have traveled abroad a lot or been in military families or have moved around a lot in America. It can be hard to adjust to irritating differences if you've lived your life in a comfortable cocoon.

    Ever tried to cut brush with a home depot Chinese machete? Useless, totally useless. But Mexican machetes are superb for cutting brush. And some spices and vanilla extract are much better than the brands in American supermarkets.
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  36. Rurik says:
    @in the middle
    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question.
    I will give a story. I was in the Guadalajara Airport, and noticed another American couple. I asked if they were going back to the States, and responded brusquely, 'You cannot pay me enough to go back!"
    Comments like yours comes from those described above of ignoramus who have never left their little village in Kansas, or Nebraska, whose judgement comes from ignorance.

    people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question

    that has been my experience in all the S. American and Caribbean countries I’ve visited

    they simply don’t have the roiling, over-the-top race hatred

    but if all in the sudden, all the institutions of Mexico and their media and government decided to act as if the Mexican people were congenitally evil and racist. for instance for not allowing enough Guatemalans or Africans to immigrate, or because Mexicans have Spanish (racist, European, genocidal) blood in their veins, and that they’re guilty and owe, and owe and owe an eternal debt to all the non-Mexican people of the world, and need to pay, and hold their racist heads down, and beg mercy from every person of color for genociding the Indians and enslaving the blacks, and Holocausting the Jews….

    and if the Mexican men were all codified by law as second class citizens, for their privilege and their historic crimes….

    then, just perhaps, Mexico and Mexican men might get the slightest glimmer of the kind of visceral race hate that permeates every walk down the street or trip to the grocery store.

    white men in the US are treated like Palestinians

    as defamed and debased second class citizens who’re evil by their very natures, and must be replaced and punished for the guilt of their ethnicity

    try that in Mexico and see what that does to the fabric of Mexican society and the tenor of race relations.

    it’s just rather sad to see Fred of all people piling on the working class white man of America for not feeling enough guilt for all his privilege, and not demanding he import millions more first class citizens to take his place for jobs or promotions or university slots for his children. all of whom are officially considered privileged, no matter how poor or underprivileged, and ordered to the back of every line behind every Mexican (and everyone else) who can get to these shores and hold up their brown skin as a mark of distain and debt owed to them all by the hated and reviled (always working class) white man.

    (Fuck you Fred ; )

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  37. turtle says:

    >They are good, speak English, and learn fast.

    He left out, “work cheap.”

    Guadalajara is closer than Lahore…
    and no pesky H-1B visas for importing the workers to Palo Alto.

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  38. Rich says:
    @in the middle
    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question.
    I will give a story. I was in the Guadalajara Airport, and noticed another American couple. I asked if they were going back to the States, and responded brusquely, 'You cannot pay me enough to go back!"
    Comments like yours comes from those described above of ignoramus who have never left their little village in Kansas, or Nebraska, whose judgement comes from ignorance.

    You love Mexico, huh? Where? Some gringo vacation spot? I’ve been to the real Mexico, shanty houses, dirt poor people, open prostitution and drug use. Of course there are nice parts of Mexico, I’m sure there’s nice parts of Beirut, too, does that mean that there should be no border between the US and Mexico?

    By the way, you’re aware there’s a serious drug war going on in your adopted country, right? Maybe you should learn to read Spanish so you can check out some of the local newspapers.

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  39. Ivy says:

    Chamber of Commerce, or (Sala de Comercio?) should include facts so that readers may review objective presentations.

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    That's Cámara de Comercio mi amor. Also, "objective" and C of C should not be in the same sentence.
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    @The Anti-Gnostic
    In other words, Mexico is not this benighted prison where cruel Americans keep all the Mexicans locked up. Good to know. The talented, vibrant Mexicans can stay and keep doing what makes Mexico so great. They can also admit more of their ethnic kin from Central America to enjoy their prosperity instead of cynically spiriting them north.

    Yeah, in spite of great efforts for centuries by gringos to use Mexico and steal from Mexico constantly in so many ways, Mexico is pulling through. I don’t doubt that the Us will try harder to put Mexico down.

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  41. Truth says:
    @in the middle
    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question.
    I will give a story. I was in the Guadalajara Airport, and noticed another American couple. I asked if they were going back to the States, and responded brusquely, 'You cannot pay me enough to go back!"
    Comments like yours comes from those described above of ignoramus who have never left their little village in Kansas, or Nebraska, whose judgement comes from ignorance.

    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly,

    LOL, hey, I’ve heard getting away from Whitey is like that. For some reason though I keep giving you folks another chance…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFVUYy1bzg

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  42. @Ivy
    Chamber of Commerce, or (Sala de Comercio?) should include facts so that readers may review objective presentations.

    That’s Cámara de Comercio mi amor. Also, “objective” and C of C should not be in the same sentence.

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  43. Rurik says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/us-immigration-population-hits-record-60-million-1-of-5-in-nation/article/2637603

    the point and purpose of a government is to protect the lives, property and way of life for the people government represents from, particularly harm and or (especially) invasion by others

    but, like bribing a doctor to poison his patient, if you can corrupt and subvert that government to betray the people of the nation, so that armies won’t even have to march in with guns, but rather the government will facilitate the invasion using the betrayed people’s own resources to do so, then that is arguably the ultimate betrayal

    perhaps on the level of the pedophile priests

    they too are trusted with the lives and the souls of their charges

    they too have total power, invested in them for the purposes of keeping the Catholic boys safe

    and then they too, abuse that very power to make victims of the people they were trusted to protect from harm

    I suppose the difference is that the priests do it for sick appetites, whereas the politicians, (and their hack enablers) do it for their 30 shekels

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  44. @in the middle
    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question.
    I will give a story. I was in the Guadalajara Airport, and noticed another American couple. I asked if they were going back to the States, and responded brusquely, 'You cannot pay me enough to go back!"
    Comments like yours comes from those described above of ignoramus who have never left their little village in Kansas, or Nebraska, whose judgement comes from ignorance.

    Again, all the more reason Mexicans can stay put instead of moving north to lecture white Americans on how awful they are.

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  45. MarkinLA says:

    He mentions that Mexico graduates 13,000 software engineers a year, and sees the country as fertile ground for IT start-ups, for which Guadalajara is becoming a hub.

    With a population of 127 million that comes out to about 1 in ten thousand.

    Not very impressive at all.

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    Mexico puts a lot of money into higher education, no so much in secondary or primary education.
    Produces an elite class to administer the country. Life is very,very good for the largely white Mexican ruling class!
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  46. republic says:
    @MarkinLA
    He mentions that Mexico graduates 13,000 software engineers a year, and sees the country as fertile ground for IT start-ups, for which Guadalajara is becoming a hub.

    With a population of 127 million that comes out to about 1 in ten thousand.

    Not very impressive at all.

    Mexico puts a lot of money into higher education, no so much in secondary or primary education.
    Produces an elite class to administer the country. Life is very,very good for the largely white Mexican ruling class!

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    Are Mestizos in the U.S. projecting their anger at the White Mexican ruling class onto American Whites when they go La Raza radical?
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  47. @republic
    Mexico puts a lot of money into higher education, no so much in secondary or primary education.
    Produces an elite class to administer the country. Life is very,very good for the largely white Mexican ruling class!

    Are Mestizos in the U.S. projecting their anger at the White Mexican ruling class onto American Whites when they go La Raza radical?

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  48. Fred, Fred, Fred…
    That is the whitest group of Mexicans I’ve seen in a while. Americans don’t have a problem with Mexicans that live in Mexico. We have a problem with the invaders. If you weren’t being a disingenuous cheerleader, you might notice that the invaders from your Holy Land do not resemble these people, in looks or intellect.
    Sad.

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  49. @neutral

    I’ll say it again Fred–just because you stick your dick in a spic doesn’t mean you need to cuck for Mexico.
     
    This is hardly a new phenomenon, during the British empire there were the types that "went native", they would usually end up denouncing the British way, which does make sense somewhat. They don't want their offspring belonging to a lower rung in the civilizational world, I would bet that Reeds Mestizo offspring motivate him to write what he writes, but deep down subconciously he probably knows the ultimate truth of it but would never be able to say this in public or even to himself.

    My strong recollection and impression is that you are spouting nonsense, gratuitously offensive too, but above all wrong. What makes you think Fred has part Mexican children?. And if he has what makes you think they are mestizo?

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  50. Rurik says:

    My strong recollection and impression is that

    wow Fred, you’ve got a champion !

    Fred and wiz, sittin in a tree…

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  51. Joe Hide says:

    Producing 13,000 software engineers a year says that people who who are really smart AND ARE NOT psychopaths have started steering Mexico’s education. India did this when the whole place was dirt poor by investing a huge percentage of its then low GDP in graduating engineers, doctors, scientists, mathematicians, etc. Now it is rewarded for this by advancing rapidly. Japan, Germany, and China did the same but using somewhat different educational goals. In the U.S.A. the educational system presently is an 80% percent failure comparatively, because it artificially restricts the entrance of smart students to STEM fields and promotes useless degrees whose otherwise unqualified graduates are hired by government and other diversification Advocate employers. Another plus for Mexicans will the gradual replacement of their political hacks by forward thinking, well educated, analytical technocrats. Good for Mexico!

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  52. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @in the middle
    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question.
    I will give a story. I was in the Guadalajara Airport, and noticed another American couple. I asked if they were going back to the States, and responded brusquely, 'You cannot pay me enough to go back!"
    Comments like yours comes from those described above of ignoramus who have never left their little village in Kansas, or Nebraska, whose judgement comes from ignorance.

    I’ve always approved of Anglo-Saxon whites who move to places like Mexico. In fact, there should be millions of them. We improve the place. Now, if we could convince the Mexican poor to get over their Catholic guilt and start using enough birth control to drop their population levels below replacement rate, we might actually start being able to make something remarkable out of the country.

    It never seems to occur to anybody that large-scale white immigration to other countries would cure a lot of their problems for them. Colonize them they way the British did the US back in the 1600s and 1700s. It made the US a great country, and we can do it to other places, too. The only reason white colonization failed in other places like India is because sensitive whites allowed themselves to be guilt-tripped out of power. Nonetheless, we left huge cultural, industrial, and economic benefits everywhere we went, as the aboriginals sulkily recognize.

    Anyway, what Mexico needs to fix its problems is a higher-quality population, and everybody knows it.

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    Mexico has 2.24 children per family. That is barely replacement rate. Catholic guilt? The Catholic religion was illegal in Mexico from 1926 to 1992.

    As far as I can remember back in the olden days when there were some White people with Spanish names around, they had families of 2 or 3 kids.

    Mexico IS improving its population both in looks ,height and intelligence. Mexico is exporting all its short, ugly, pot bellied 80 IQ people to the United States along with a substantial number of thugs with criminal records and warrants out.

    I bet the average IQ in Mexico rises a couple points every 5 years as the dumb ones lower the average IQ of Americans. Look at the California public school system. From always in the top 10 until about 1960 and then dropping, dropping, dropping every year down to # 47, 48, 49 all because of the low IQ Mexican kids.


    The real problem with Mexico is that the Whites have kept the browns so down. Most rural Mexican kids don't go to school past 5th grade and some not past 3rd. Reason is there are no school buses and the parents don't have cars. The rural schools, like ours are spread out and people live miles away.
    The educational levels would rise if Mexico would just raise the national taxes enough for school buses for all students. Mexico has a national, not local and state public school system.

    Mexico charges tuition for middle and high school which is another problem for poor Mexicans. So the rural poor make a big effort to get the kids through 3rd or 4th grade and then just keep them at home to do chores. City poor kids go out peddling and begging and doing odd jobs even they could walk or take public buses to school. Lots of girls become live in maids at 10 or 12.


    So the Mexican wealthy Whites are ridding themselves of their low class poor brown population by dumping them on America especially the south west.

    The big corporations especially anything to do with food all have 800 numbers posted and recruiters in the most primitive villages all over rural Mexico and Central America.


    I TRUST EVERYONE BOYCOTTS CHOBANI YOGURT WHO BROUGHT THE BOYS WHO RAPED AND URINATED ON A 5 YEAR OLD AMERICAN GIRL TO IDAHO.


    Blame hispanic immigration on the American corporations and small businesses who hire them.

    I once clicked around on the department of injustice web site. Discovered that the fine for "investigating" the driver's license and SS numbers of prospective employees is an unbelievable
    $375,000 to the employer. The fine for employing an illegal alien is $3,000. And less than a hundred employers are ever fined for hiring illegal aliens every year
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  53. Wally says:
    @Hbd investor
    This is the Chanda Chisala argument all over again

    Look! a few cherry picked blacks managed to win a couple of obscure games/ intellectual contests/youth contests.

    There's nothing impressive about winning a engineering design contest since there are literally thousands of similar contests every year.

    Now if 20% of these contests were being won by teams full of illegals or Mexicans every year that would be another story. But you cherry picked one contest that 1 year had a team full of illegals.

    Also making a chatbot is something that most average programmers can do, the same with training neural networks.

    There are different levels of working on ai. And not everybody that works on ai is a genius.

    Ordinary people can easily learn to use ai software that is readily available to make say product specific chatbots.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_deep_learning_software

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network_software

    The imo math results, pisa results show that human capital is low in Mexico

    Indeed, the piece is a strawman gone wild.

    Nobody says that ALL “Mexicans have low IQs and cannot function at other than a primitive level.”

    It’s just that most Mexicans DO have low IQs and cannot function at other than a primitive level.

    Witness, well, Mexico and Mexican infested regions within the US.

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    Nobody says that ALL “Mexicans have low IQs
     
    and more to the point, it isn't about Mexicans per se

    it's about ALL immigrants to this country (and Canada and Europe and Sweden, etc..) who then claim first-class- Affirmative Action citizenship and are given perks and privileges that the white, second class indigenous citizens have to suffer and pay for as they're shoved out of their communities and suffer the crime and violence and racial hatred; a la La Raza, and all the other organizations set up to fuck over the indigenous white people who were born there, and in the case of places like Sweden, have lived there since the beginning of time.

    But soon they too will have no place to call home, because the immigration proponents are feverishly doing all they can to destroy all white nations all over the planet. DUH

    and the worst among these apologists for white genocide, and the ones who hailed from those working class white communities in the first place. And have a perfect knowledge of all the mean-spirited little identity-politics butt-hurts all demanding access and privileges and open borders.

    those people really suck, because they know what they're doing

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Gwo6To1rbmg/T4FA2adcb8I/AAAAAAAABxg/XcFqgljmaSU/s1600/trials+5.jpg
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  54. Sure, all races/ethnicities have extremes of intelligence in people. And Mexico likely has a lot of very smart people. The problem is, there aren’t enough of those smart people to offset the majority who lag way behind the Europeans and Jewish folks, in terms of IQ.

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  55. Rurik says:
    @Wally
    Indeed, the piece is a strawman gone wild.

    Nobody says that ALL "Mexicans have low IQs and cannot function at other than a primitive level."

    It's just that most Mexicans DO have low IQs and cannot function at other than a primitive level.

    Witness, well, Mexico and Mexican infested regions within the US.

    Nobody says that ALL “Mexicans have low IQs

    and more to the point, it isn’t about Mexicans per se

    it’s about ALL immigrants to this country (and Canada and Europe and Sweden, etc..) who then claim first-class- Affirmative Action citizenship and are given perks and privileges that the white, second class indigenous citizens have to suffer and pay for as they’re shoved out of their communities and suffer the crime and violence and racial hatred; a la La Raza, and all the other organizations set up to fuck over the indigenous white people who were born there, and in the case of places like Sweden, have lived there since the beginning of time.

    But soon they too will have no place to call home, because the immigration proponents are feverishly doing all they can to destroy all white nations all over the planet. DUH

    and the worst among these apologists for white genocide, and the ones who hailed from those working class white communities in the first place. And have a perfect knowledge of all the mean-spirited little identity-politics butt-hurts all demanding access and privileges and open borders.

    those people really suck, because they know what they’re doing

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    Never forget that affirmative action was not created by the brown immigrants who get all the privileges. It was a project of Presidents Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, VP Hubert Humphrey and those minions of Satan, federal and state judges.

    I held my nose and voted for Trump but way back before he entered the primaries he said something to the effect that he approved of affirmative action and wouldn't change it. Johnson may have created AA but every President since then has expanded it. Even Kennedy sent a suggestion, not a directive or God forbid executive order to all federal agencies to start hiring QUALIFIED blacks.


    All Whites should make effort to avoid and evade taxes as much as they can. Try to get some cash only hustle, even renting out an extra bedroom. Cash the rent checks at the tenant's bank and the tax man won't find you. Just do what the immigrants do to avoid and evade taxes.

    The whole socialist thing is not that bad. We pay taxes to the government for taking care of the common good. But when Whites were excluded from the common good by the affirmative action act of 1968 our moral obligation to pay taxes or be good citizens ended right then and there.
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  56. Wally says:
    @George Taylor
    Fred used to love to talk about Embraer aircraft out of Brazil. Yes they do make fine airplanes but note the board of directors.

    http://www.relatoweb.com.br/embraer/12/sites/default/files//conselho_en.png

    I've had enough travels into Latin American to recognize, albeit not official but certainly unmistakable caste system. Those of highest European/Spanish/Portogease DNA rule the high tech, managerial, medical doctors, high level government position roost. Those kids who can code are not the ones jumping the border.

    And note the practically all euro white Mexican Congress:

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    One thing about the Mexican Whites.

    They are not all Spanish although most changed their names to Spanish ones. All during the 19th century Latin America had as many European immigrants as the USA. Mexico got its first big cohort of non Spanish Whites with the Irish laborers and British engineers who built the Mexican railroads. Many, especially the Irish stayed and contributed height, fair skin and brown hair to the families into which they married. There were vast numbers of Germans, Christian Arabs, Jews and other Europeans as well. And they quickly moved into the upper classes because the Spanish descended Whites were racists who were happy to marry even poor railroad workers as long as they were tall and fair.

    During and after the *attempted ruination of Spain by the soviets in the 1930's Mexico got pure European Spanish from both sides.

    Also known as the Spanish civil war
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  57. @The Anti-Gnostic
    In other words, Mexico is not this benighted prison where cruel Americans keep all the Mexicans locked up. Good to know. The talented, vibrant Mexicans can stay and keep doing what makes Mexico so great. They can also admit more of their ethnic kin from Central America to enjoy their prosperity instead of cynically spiriting them north.

    . . . hmmm . . . something about that pic of the young Mex-Techs . . .

    do I see Mestizos? . . . do I see pure-blood Mayan? . . .

    why, I think I see mostly ethnic Spaniards . . . (there were also a good amount of Germans who migrated to Mexico) . . . maybe one Oriental . . . so, we’re talking about the ethnic Europeans (and Orientals) in Mexico.

    Not the Mestizos and Central American Amerindians that those governments racially discriminate against and cynically send to the USA – while our criminal DemoRepub Uniparty Cheap Votes/Cheap Labor Establishment gleefully welcomes.

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    They didn't look Spanish. They looked like mixed Mexicans. But good for them, they won a science contest.
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  58. WHAT says:

    Boomer shilling for latrinos, classy. They are just like you, goy, let them in!

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  60. Some Wizeliners. The formal dress is characteristic of techies everywhere.

    Most look pretty Eurexican.

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  61. Iribarren says:

    Thank you very much for your comment Bro Methylene , you are right . The ” Black Legend ” ( Leyenda Negra ) created mainly by the north european protestants against Spain and against catholics in general is a shame for mankind , it is a piece of hatred .

    Back in the 80`s , once I went to England and when I said that I was from Spain an englishman told me with obvious despise : so , you are a Popist !!! , to avoid a discussion I replied him ironically : yes my friend , I am a Popist , just like you . No ! he replied I am not a catholic , I am an anglican . That`s it man , I answered , we both are Popists , the only difference is that your Pope is the Queen of England , and my Pope is the Pope of Rome , OK ? , and finally he had to smile and stopped quarreling .

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    The weirdest thing about the C of E is that unlike every other religion, the head of state is also the head of the religion. And weirdest of all, the King or Queen who is head of state has no religious training other than the standard religion classes that everyone else has. Some C of E kids do take a class for confirmation but that's all the head of the religion takes.

    It's very strange. The other protestant clergy take the standard clergy critter courses. All the founders of the lutherans, methodists, quakers, baptists and the other sects went to clergy college, but not the head of the C of E. The founder of the Mormons didn't go to clergy college but he studied the bible and Christianity, unlike the heads of the C of E.

    Our intelligent and well read commenter Jilles Dykstra posts the black legend every chance he gets. Little does he know that his tiny little brothel of a country was literally built by Roman Catholic monks.
    400 AD some fanatic religious monks went to the western shore of the North Sea and built dykes and islands and filled them and gradually Holland was literally created from the Sea.

    Henry 8 often proclaimed that he created the Catholic Church of England. The only difference being the language of the service and who was the nominal head.

    The thing I don't like about Christian services is the bible. If they could just sing and tell us to do good and avoid evil it would be all right. But they keep reading from the bible.
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  62. Sean says:

    In America two narratives about Mexico dominate.

    Each contains multitudes of narratives. America and Mexico are two separate countries.

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  63. ATR says:

    Fred’s daft.

    If you want to know what Mexicans are like in the U.S. then look at El Paso.

    The University of Texas at El Paso has a student body that is overwhelmingly Mexican. He should take a gander at its graduation rates. See here https://www.texastribune.org/2012/03/02/ut-el-paso-looks-success-beyond-graduation-rates/ and here http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/UTEP-graduation-rate-among-lowest-in-nation-1841168.php

    How does UTEP’s graduation rate compare to a redneck school like Alabama?

    Well, we do know the redneck school’s graduation rates. See here https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/the-university-of-alabama/academic-life/graduation-and-retention/

    Why the disconnect between UTEP and Alabama, Fred?

    Is the poverty of Alabama somehow different from the poverty of West Texas?

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    Those rates reflect the difference between a less selective regional university and a very selective research university. UTEP's rates are not terribly different from the lily-white Directional State Universities scattered across the Midwest.
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  64. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The real question is, why is Fred is dishonest on this issue?

    Anyone who has been to Mexico, or any Latino American country, knows it is poor and corrupt for the most part. Just look at it with Google street. Or take a visit to a non-tourist city. They don’t make good societies, that is why a huge portion of Mexico chooses to live in USA!

    So why is Fred making this up?

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    Fred has probably picked up a lucrative writing gig sponsored by (((someone with an agenda))).
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  65. TheBoom says:

    Fred exemplifies the divide between the gringo and the Mexican in mexico. They live in parallel universes.

    I taught in the top business school of a well known Mexican city. The private university system is a joke with students guaranteed at least an A- or the professor is fired. The students consequently are lazy, resent working hard and know little. Mexicans lament the poor state of their educational system. All but one Mexican I met would rather live in the US. As one used to lament “Mexico has a culture of mediocrity” something you can see in every aspect of Mexican life. Mexicans don’t trust each other and for good reason.

    Then there are the gringos who think they are living in paradise and feel thinking about Mexico like the Mexicans do is racist. If you think Fred is delusional you should to the gringas. American women make Fred seem rational on the subject.

    But, if Fred really believed what he wrote, he should campaign for the wall and end Mexican flight to the US. Stop the brain drain. Those 20 million or more illegals in the US are going to make Mexico flourish once back.

    Odd though that Mexicans almost all want to come to the US when there are even more wonderful Mexicans in Mexico

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  66. From Mex with Sex

    Sex in the (Mexico) City…

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  67. @ATR
    Fred's daft.

    If you want to know what Mexicans are like in the U.S. then look at El Paso.

    The University of Texas at El Paso has a student body that is overwhelmingly Mexican. He should take a gander at its graduation rates. See here https://www.texastribune.org/2012/03/02/ut-el-paso-looks-success-beyond-graduation-rates/ and here http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/UTEP-graduation-rate-among-lowest-in-nation-1841168.php

    How does UTEP's graduation rate compare to a redneck school like Alabama?

    Well, we do know the redneck school's graduation rates. See here https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/the-university-of-alabama/academic-life/graduation-and-retention/

    Why the disconnect between UTEP and Alabama, Fred?

    Is the poverty of Alabama somehow different from the poverty of West Texas?

    Those rates reflect the difference between a less selective regional university and a very selective research university. UTEP’s rates are not terribly different from the lily-white Directional State Universities scattered across the Midwest.

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  68. Thomm says:
    @KenH
    That is true. Many of Embraer's technically skilled employees appear German looking, Scandinavian or a mixture of Northern and Western Europeans ethnic groups. If they were standing among a group of Americans you'd almost think the Embraer Brazilians were American the Americans were the Brazilians.

    They definitely are not squat, dark skinned Indians who came out of the rain forest.

    Except that Argentina and Uruguay are both 98% white. Which is to say, they are both much whiter than the US or Canada.

    Plus, many of the whites there are Germans, who are supposedly the most productive of all.

    Yet, Argentina has the same per capita GDP as Mexico. This effectively busts the white = high IQ = civilization belief that simple-minded WNs cling to.

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    GDP is a poor method (even per capita) method for determining how good the place is for the people. Mexico's wealth is highly concentrated at the top while large parts of Argentina are quite first world looking. There are plenty of places in Mexico that are so dirt-poor that I doubt they even count these places in economic studies. I didn't see any of those places in Argentina and I was on a torn that went down the famous route 44 running the length of the western side of Argentina.
    , @Ace
    Except that you're skipping over the sad history of Argentina with its slide from economic wonder to Peronista stupidity. Somehow, Argentinians drank the kool-aid and enlisted in the FSA.
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  69. Ace says:
    @Bro Methylene
    Blame the Protestants and the Black Legend. I come from a line of Masonic Methodists and I know where all the anti-Mexican propaganda comes from. There's no use in pretending at this point.

    So anti-Mexican propaganda is because of Protestants? Whoa.

    What is the black legend?

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    Read the book " The american religion " by Harold Bloom , you will learn a lot
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  70. Miro23 says:

    In a sense they’re more American than Americans and buying into America. It’s a strange situation but there’s something positive about it.

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  71. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    (((those))) who demand they hate their own kind.

    Still, there is no reason to support, or entertain, anyone who buys in to our genocide, regardless of their race.
     
    back in the day, when the US cavalry was putting down an Apache insurrection, and attempting to get at some particularly 'bad hombres' holed up in Apache territory, they were often at a disadvantage, because the Apaches knew the land and knew the hideouts.

    So what the US Cavalry did was enlist some disgruntled Apache 'braves' as their scouts. A few perks like regular meals and a Yankee soldier's jacket usually did the trick

    http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/16/48/65/92/apache11.jpg

    Fred is like modern a day Apache scout. He's being used by La Raza as 'one of us', to reverse infect us, only not with polio, but with white-guilt and shame for being so 'racist', and not embracing these people's imperative to retake 'their' lands from the evil white racist people who stole it.

    I wonder how a dozen or so fires started simultaneously in California?

    Pure coincidence.
    It must be, because the same thing happens every year in Australia.

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    the same thing happens every year in Australia.
     
    is Australia also importing millions of Third World people to harangue white Aussies into racial submission for not wanting to blend with the Aborigines and newly imported blacks and Muslims and Asians?

    Are the Australian women too worried about their "precious bodily fluids", as Fred puts it- mocking anyone who doesn't want to see white Americans completely immersed into a brown morass of mediocrity, (hey, but a few of them can still write code for their overlords at Google!)

    Fred demands that the solution to racism is to blend, and for white Americans to give up on their hopes for their grandchildren to live in a country that doesn't hate their evil, racist white guts.

    he feels the solution is simple, stop trying to protect your "precious bodily fluids".

    blend!

    http://www.showandtellonline.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/teresa-palmer-wallpaper-11-e1403040084876.jpg

    +

    https://cdn.theconversation.com/files/59621/area14mp/439w3k28-1411189436.jpg

    =

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QOf9GBuqH10/TrMJ4otO6eI/AAAAAAAAH6o/Ljp1YdOX5lg/s1600/tumblr_krdp4nRiWZ1qa4nsdo1_400.jpg

    no more racism!

    And not just Australia and Europe, but especially N. America, and the small towns in the heartland from whence Fred hailed, and understands all too well the intractable racism of those lily white hamlets in Virginia and elsewhere. Not for long if Fred gets his way!

    and not just Mexicans, everyone must come!

    or how else would we have Jeantel here from the Dominican Republic?

    http://lovebscott.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rachel-jeantel1.jpg

    and she could blend with a reformed 'white nationalist' and have the perfect, non-racist offspring!!!

    http://www.consnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/colin-kaepernick.jpg

    it's all so simple and obvious when you think about it!

    sure, there's going to be some resentment from the less-blended until we're all one pure race of 'Obamas' (except of course for the Google/Facebook elite class!), and of course there's going to be more fires and riots and Affirmative Action and all kinds of things that we celebrate with diversity, but it's all worth it to achieve that finally supremely utopian day when we're all finally blended! And no one (except the Google class) are worried about their precious bodily fluids any more!

    all hail Fred!

    the messiah of mixing

    the patron saint of utopian, leftist, progressive solutions, once and for all!
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  72. MarkinLA says:
    @Thomm
    Except that Argentina and Uruguay are both 98% white. Which is to say, they are both much whiter than the US or Canada.

    Plus, many of the whites there are Germans, who are supposedly the most productive of all.

    Yet, Argentina has the same per capita GDP as Mexico. This effectively busts the white = high IQ = civilization belief that simple-minded WNs cling to.

    GDP is a poor method (even per capita) method for determining how good the place is for the people. Mexico’s wealth is highly concentrated at the top while large parts of Argentina are quite first world looking. There are plenty of places in Mexico that are so dirt-poor that I doubt they even count these places in economic studies. I didn’t see any of those places in Argentina and I was on a torn that went down the famous route 44 running the length of the western side of Argentina.

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  73. Ace says:
    @Thomm
    Except that Argentina and Uruguay are both 98% white. Which is to say, they are both much whiter than the US or Canada.

    Plus, many of the whites there are Germans, who are supposedly the most productive of all.

    Yet, Argentina has the same per capita GDP as Mexico. This effectively busts the white = high IQ = civilization belief that simple-minded WNs cling to.

    Except that you’re skipping over the sad history of Argentina with its slide from economic wonder to Peronista stupidity. Somehow, Argentinians drank the kool-aid and enlisted in the FSA.

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  74. @Anonymous
    The real question is, why is Fred is dishonest on this issue?

    Anyone who has been to Mexico, or any Latino American country, knows it is poor and corrupt for the most part. Just look at it with Google street. Or take a visit to a non-tourist city. They don't make good societies, that is why a huge portion of Mexico chooses to live in USA!

    So why is Fred making this up?

    Fred has probably picked up a lucrative writing gig sponsored by (((someone with an agenda))).

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  75. Iribarren says:
    @Ace
    So anti-Mexican propaganda is because of Protestants? Whoa.

    What is the black legend?

    Read the book ” The american religion ” by Harold Bloom , you will learn a lot

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  76. Great take on why innovation is taking place in Mexico and not the U.S. — the high costs of the parasitic class in the U.S. are baked into the costs of real estate, education and other costs of living. Innovation is costly and time-consuming and there is no payback until years later. It is being snuffed out in high cost California, and is moving on to low cost Mexico. The advance of the vulture capitalists to Mexico is the advance of the first wave of the parasitic class. The only question is how long before the high costs of the parasitic class snuffs out innovation in Mexico.

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    The advance of the vulture capitalists to Mexico is the advance of the first wave of the parasitic class. The only question is how long before the high costs of the parasitic class snuffs out innovation in Mexico.
     
    excellent points!
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  77. Rurik says:
    @anon
    Pure coincidence.
    It must be, because the same thing happens every year in Australia.

    the same thing happens every year in Australia.

    is Australia also importing millions of Third World people to harangue white Aussies into racial submission for not wanting to blend with the Aborigines and newly imported blacks and Muslims and Asians?

    Are the Australian women too worried about their “precious bodily fluids”, as Fred puts it- mocking anyone who doesn’t want to see white Americans completely immersed into a brown morass of mediocrity, (hey, but a few of them can still write code for their overlords at Google!)

    Fred demands that the solution to racism is to blend, and for white Americans to give up on their hopes for their grandchildren to live in a country that doesn’t hate their evil, racist white guts.

    he feels the solution is simple, stop trying to protect your “precious bodily fluids”.

    blend!

    +

    =

    no more racism!

    And not just Australia and Europe, but especially N. America, and the small towns in the heartland from whence Fred hailed, and understands all too well the intractable racism of those lily white hamlets in Virginia and elsewhere. Not for long if Fred gets his way!

    and not just Mexicans, everyone must come!

    or how else would we have Jeantel here from the Dominican Republic?

    and she could blend with a reformed ‘white nationalist’ and have the perfect, non-racist offspring!!!

    it’s all so simple and obvious when you think about it!

    sure, there’s going to be some resentment from the less-blended until we’re all one pure race of ‘Obamas’ (except of course for the Google/Facebook elite class!), and of course there’s going to be more fires and riots and Affirmative Action and all kinds of things that we celebrate with diversity, but it’s all worth it to achieve that finally supremely utopian day when we’re all finally blended! And no one (except the Google class) are worried about their precious bodily fluids any more!

    all hail Fred!

    the messiah of mixing

    the patron saint of utopian, leftist, progressive solutions, once and for all!

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    Please leave that poor girl alone.

    She only met Saint Travon The Martyr about 3 weeks before he was shot while trying to kill Zimmerman. She actually met him when the uninvited Travon crashed her 18th birthday party. They called and texted all the time. That was most of their relationship.

    And then she was thrust into the media frenzy and trial.

    I don't like blacks especially black women because I have worked with so many. But I really feel both maternal and female solidarity with Jeantel. Poor baby. I really wanted to protect her when the media frenzy went on.

    What if something like that happened to you? You met some skank somewhere and she got herself in a mess and because you were the only man in her life you got involved in the liberal crusade of the year.
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  78. Rurik says:
    @Clearpoint
    Great take on why innovation is taking place in Mexico and not the U.S. --- the high costs of the parasitic class in the U.S. are baked into the costs of real estate, education and other costs of living. Innovation is costly and time-consuming and there is no payback until years later. It is being snuffed out in high cost California, and is moving on to low cost Mexico. The advance of the vulture capitalists to Mexico is the advance of the first wave of the parasitic class. The only question is how long before the high costs of the parasitic class snuffs out innovation in Mexico.

    The advance of the vulture capitalists to Mexico is the advance of the first wave of the parasitic class. The only question is how long before the high costs of the parasitic class snuffs out innovation in Mexico.

    excellent points!

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  79. M_Young says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    Fred just isn't at his best on the subject of Mexico. His characterization of vDare is highly inaccurate. I have never detected hostility towards Mexicans in Mexico on that site. It's the effect that Mexicans and Central Americans (and even Mexicans don't want them) have on the culture in the United States that vDare criticizes.

    Indeed, Alan Wall one of Vdare’s main contributor, has a Mexican Mestiza wife and actually had kids with her. He lived in the country for years. His criticism of Mexico is more of its corruption, its nationalism and its hypocrisy than anything else.

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  80. Alden says:
    @Hbd investor
    This is the Chanda Chisala argument all over again

    Look! a few cherry picked blacks managed to win a couple of obscure games/ intellectual contests/youth contests.

    There's nothing impressive about winning a engineering design contest since there are literally thousands of similar contests every year.

    Now if 20% of these contests were being won by teams full of illegals or Mexicans every year that would be another story. But you cherry picked one contest that 1 year had a team full of illegals.

    Also making a chatbot is something that most average programmers can do, the same with training neural networks.

    There are different levels of working on ai. And not everybody that works on ai is a genius.

    Ordinary people can easily learn to use ai software that is readily available to make say product specific chatbots.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_deep_learning_software

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network_software

    The imo math results, pisa results show that human capital is low in Mexico

    Most public and private high schools in the State of California have robotics classes and contests and clubs. It’s the latest educational fad supposedly to prepare the kids for jobs in robotics. High school websites all have pictures of their robotics clubs.

    BFD

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  81. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    the same thing happens every year in Australia.
     
    is Australia also importing millions of Third World people to harangue white Aussies into racial submission for not wanting to blend with the Aborigines and newly imported blacks and Muslims and Asians?

    Are the Australian women too worried about their "precious bodily fluids", as Fred puts it- mocking anyone who doesn't want to see white Americans completely immersed into a brown morass of mediocrity, (hey, but a few of them can still write code for their overlords at Google!)

    Fred demands that the solution to racism is to blend, and for white Americans to give up on their hopes for their grandchildren to live in a country that doesn't hate their evil, racist white guts.

    he feels the solution is simple, stop trying to protect your "precious bodily fluids".

    blend!

    http://www.showandtellonline.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/teresa-palmer-wallpaper-11-e1403040084876.jpg

    +

    https://cdn.theconversation.com/files/59621/area14mp/439w3k28-1411189436.jpg

    =

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QOf9GBuqH10/TrMJ4otO6eI/AAAAAAAAH6o/Ljp1YdOX5lg/s1600/tumblr_krdp4nRiWZ1qa4nsdo1_400.jpg

    no more racism!

    And not just Australia and Europe, but especially N. America, and the small towns in the heartland from whence Fred hailed, and understands all too well the intractable racism of those lily white hamlets in Virginia and elsewhere. Not for long if Fred gets his way!

    and not just Mexicans, everyone must come!

    or how else would we have Jeantel here from the Dominican Republic?

    http://lovebscott.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rachel-jeantel1.jpg

    and she could blend with a reformed 'white nationalist' and have the perfect, non-racist offspring!!!

    http://www.consnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/colin-kaepernick.jpg

    it's all so simple and obvious when you think about it!

    sure, there's going to be some resentment from the less-blended until we're all one pure race of 'Obamas' (except of course for the Google/Facebook elite class!), and of course there's going to be more fires and riots and Affirmative Action and all kinds of things that we celebrate with diversity, but it's all worth it to achieve that finally supremely utopian day when we're all finally blended! And no one (except the Google class) are worried about their precious bodily fluids any more!

    all hail Fred!

    the messiah of mixing

    the patron saint of utopian, leftist, progressive solutions, once and for all!

    Please leave that poor girl alone.

    She only met Saint Travon The Martyr about 3 weeks before he was shot while trying to kill Zimmerman. She actually met him when the uninvited Travon crashed her 18th birthday party. They called and texted all the time. That was most of their relationship.

    And then she was thrust into the media frenzy and trial.

    I don’t like blacks especially black women because I have worked with so many. But I really feel both maternal and female solidarity with Jeantel. Poor baby. I really wanted to protect her when the media frenzy went on.

    What if something like that happened to you? You met some skank somewhere and she got herself in a mess and because you were the only man in her life you got involved in the liberal crusade of the year.

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    Please leave that poor girl alone.

    She only met Saint Travon The Martyr
     

    lol

    solidarity with Jeantel.

    You met some skank somewhere and she got herself in a mess and because you were the only man in her life
     

    I suppose that has happened before Alden

    No, I couldn't possibly have any malice towards young Jeantel. And I did have sympathy for her, really.

    Not that it didn't seem obvious to me that she knew who the 'devils' were and who the 'good people' were. It was just the kind of theater that Fred used to be so good at writing about. Pointing out the hilarity of the smug disciples of St. Travon, as only Fred could. And indeed, has:


    The crucial fact to come out of the whole adventure—crucial, and therefore utterly overlooked–was that Rachel Jeantel, a prosecution witness and black girl aged nineteen years, can’t read.
     
    https://fredoneverything.org/zimmerman-the-joys-of-hopelessness/

    No, my point and my problem with Jeantel is that the people (like Fred) demanding more Third World immigration into this country are perfectly willing to force every middle and working class white child (the children of the wealthy go to private schools) in every hamlet in this country to sit next to a Jeantel in their schools, and share the bus with them and immerse themselves into a cultural stew with the likes of a million more Jeantels from the Caribbean (and Mexico and Africa and elsewhere).

    And this influx is and has been and continues to be a catastrophe for the working class white children who get to sit next to Jeantel in their classrooms. And try to learn something when the person sitting next to you in class can't, even after graduating, reed so much as a letter written in cursive English.

    And if Fred thinks the Mexicans who come here, are a quantum leap above Jeantel in their love of education, well then I say horse cookies.

    Mexicans languish far behind whites and even farther behind Asians. Of course everyone who has looked at this phenomena blames all of it on 'white racism' - which Fred is so keen to mock when the conversation is about St. Travon, but then loses his bladder when it includes Mexicans, for some mysterious and elusive reason.

    Hmmm

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  82. Alden says:
    @Anon
    I've always approved of Anglo-Saxon whites who move to places like Mexico. In fact, there should be millions of them. We improve the place. Now, if we could convince the Mexican poor to get over their Catholic guilt and start using enough birth control to drop their population levels below replacement rate, we might actually start being able to make something remarkable out of the country.

    It never seems to occur to anybody that large-scale white immigration to other countries would cure a lot of their problems for them. Colonize them they way the British did the US back in the 1600s and 1700s. It made the US a great country, and we can do it to other places, too. The only reason white colonization failed in other places like India is because sensitive whites allowed themselves to be guilt-tripped out of power. Nonetheless, we left huge cultural, industrial, and economic benefits everywhere we went, as the aboriginals sulkily recognize.

    Anyway, what Mexico needs to fix its problems is a higher-quality population, and everybody knows it.

    Mexico has 2.24 children per family. That is barely replacement rate. Catholic guilt? The Catholic religion was illegal in Mexico from 1926 to 1992.

    As far as I can remember back in the olden days when there were some White people with Spanish names around, they had families of 2 or 3 kids.

    Mexico IS improving its population both in looks ,height and intelligence. Mexico is exporting all its short, ugly, pot bellied 80 IQ people to the United States along with a substantial number of thugs with criminal records and warrants out.

    I bet the average IQ in Mexico rises a couple points every 5 years as the dumb ones lower the average IQ of Americans. Look at the California public school system. From always in the top 10 until about 1960 and then dropping, dropping, dropping every year down to # 47, 48, 49 all because of the low IQ Mexican kids.

    The real problem with Mexico is that the Whites have kept the browns so down. Most rural Mexican kids don’t go to school past 5th grade and some not past 3rd. Reason is there are no school buses and the parents don’t have cars. The rural schools, like ours are spread out and people live miles away.
    The educational levels would rise if Mexico would just raise the national taxes enough for school buses for all students. Mexico has a national, not local and state public school system.

    Mexico charges tuition for middle and high school which is another problem for poor Mexicans. So the rural poor make a big effort to get the kids through 3rd or 4th grade and then just keep them at home to do chores. City poor kids go out peddling and begging and doing odd jobs even they could walk or take public buses to school. Lots of girls become live in maids at 10 or 12.

    So the Mexican wealthy Whites are ridding themselves of their low class poor brown population by dumping them on America especially the south west.

    The big corporations especially anything to do with food all have 800 numbers posted and recruiters in the most primitive villages all over rural Mexico and Central America.

    I TRUST EVERYONE BOYCOTTS CHOBANI YOGURT WHO BROUGHT THE BOYS WHO RAPED AND URINATED ON A 5 YEAR OLD AMERICAN GIRL TO IDAHO.

    Blame hispanic immigration on the American corporations and small businesses who hire them.

    I once clicked around on the department of injustice web site. Discovered that the fine for “investigating” the driver’s license and SS numbers of prospective employees is an unbelievable
    $375,000 to the employer. The fine for employing an illegal alien is $3,000. And less than a hundred employers are ever fined for hiring illegal aliens every year

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    Effin' Chobani won't darken my refrigerator. And it is not as though there aren't a lot of alternatives. Some brand equity seems like wishful thinking or creative accounting, notwithstanding a puff piece on 60 Minutes.
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  83. Alden says:
    @Wally
    And note the practically all euro white Mexican Congress:

    https://www.jsg.utexas.edu/lacp/files/mexico-congress.jpg

    One thing about the Mexican Whites.

    They are not all Spanish although most changed their names to Spanish ones. All during the 19th century Latin America had as many European immigrants as the USA. Mexico got its first big cohort of non Spanish Whites with the Irish laborers and British engineers who built the Mexican railroads. Many, especially the Irish stayed and contributed height, fair skin and brown hair to the families into which they married. There were vast numbers of Germans, Christian Arabs, Jews and other Europeans as well. And they quickly moved into the upper classes because the Spanish descended Whites were racists who were happy to marry even poor railroad workers as long as they were tall and fair.

    During and after the *attempted ruination of Spain by the soviets in the 1930′s Mexico got pure European Spanish from both sides.

    Also known as the Spanish civil war

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  84. Alden says:
    @Sarah Toga
    . . . hmmm . . . something about that pic of the young Mex-Techs . . .

    do I see Mestizos? . . . do I see pure-blood Mayan? . . .

    why, I think I see mostly ethnic Spaniards . . . (there were also a good amount of Germans who migrated to Mexico) . . . maybe one Oriental . . . so, we're talking about the ethnic Europeans (and Orientals) in Mexico.

    Not the Mestizos and Central American Amerindians that those governments racially discriminate against and cynically send to the USA - while our criminal DemoRepub Uniparty Cheap Votes/Cheap Labor Establishment gleefully welcomes.

    They didn’t look Spanish. They looked like mixed Mexicans. But good for them, they won a science contest.

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  85. Alden says:
    @in the middle
    Heck, Yeah. I did move to Mexico, and glad I did! Prices are cheap, items fresh, just like when I was In Europe, purchasing in the local farm markets!. Not race rioting, people are friendly, not like in the US where race tensions make that out of the question.
    I will give a story. I was in the Guadalajara Airport, and noticed another American couple. I asked if they were going back to the States, and responded brusquely, 'You cannot pay me enough to go back!"
    Comments like yours comes from those described above of ignoramus who have never left their little village in Kansas, or Nebraska, whose judgement comes from ignorance.

    Most of those advice for foreign retirement articles claim it is easier for Americans who have traveled abroad a lot or been in military families or have moved around a lot in America. It can be hard to adjust to irritating differences if you’ve lived your life in a comfortable cocoon.

    Ever tried to cut brush with a home depot Chinese machete? Useless, totally useless. But Mexican machetes are superb for cutting brush. And some spices and vanilla extract are much better than the brands in American supermarkets.

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  86. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    (((those))) who demand they hate their own kind.

    Still, there is no reason to support, or entertain, anyone who buys in to our genocide, regardless of their race.
     
    back in the day, when the US cavalry was putting down an Apache insurrection, and attempting to get at some particularly 'bad hombres' holed up in Apache territory, they were often at a disadvantage, because the Apaches knew the land and knew the hideouts.

    So what the US Cavalry did was enlist some disgruntled Apache 'braves' as their scouts. A few perks like regular meals and a Yankee soldier's jacket usually did the trick

    http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/16/48/65/92/apache11.jpg

    Fred is like modern a day Apache scout. He's being used by La Raza as 'one of us', to reverse infect us, only not with polio, but with white-guilt and shame for being so 'racist', and not embracing these people's imperative to retake 'their' lands from the evil white racist people who stole it.

    I wonder how a dozen or so fires started simultaneously in California?

    Some of those simultaneous fires were 200 miles apart. A relative of mine and his wife are the only two people on their hill who survived. They woke up when the neighbors propane tanks exploded. They had to drive their car through the back fence because the key to the lock was in the house which was already burning. Then he had to get the car over a ditch. As they drove down the fire road in back of the houses they could hear the neighbors, kids and all screaming as they were burnt to death.

    That was not far from the park where the illegal alien felon was arrested shortly after he started a fire.

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  87. Alden says:
    @Father O'Hara
    Mexico is a wonderland of high tech startups and well educated tech people! Who knew? So those DACA slobs should be happy to be emancipated from the USA and be allowed to go back there and make money!
    BYE!

    I read somewhere that the Mexican national school system wants to fast track them to a teacher certificate because of their good English skills.

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  88. Alden says:
    @Issac
    I had always wondered why California would seek to drown itself in Mexican immigration. Silicon Valley seems to have overlooked them given the state is damn near half mestizo and the Big Four are ~5% or less. Boy are they going to be thrilled when they read this!

    This is why in one sentence.

    Our biggest wealth is agriculture which will still be here when STEM moves elsewhere and the farmers want cheap, cheaper and cheapest labor.

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  89. Alden says:
    @The Alarmist

    "Mexico is a country that can at very best be called mediocre, nothing of note has come from it ...."
     
    Dude, they gave us Tacos and Chimichangas and stuff like that. Surely that must count for something.

    One good thing I can say about Mexicans. Mexican mechanics in my experience are both very competent and honest.

    But unlike Fred, I won’t write articles praising Mex Americans because of good experiences with Mexican mechanics.

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  90. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Nobody says that ALL “Mexicans have low IQs
     
    and more to the point, it isn't about Mexicans per se

    it's about ALL immigrants to this country (and Canada and Europe and Sweden, etc..) who then claim first-class- Affirmative Action citizenship and are given perks and privileges that the white, second class indigenous citizens have to suffer and pay for as they're shoved out of their communities and suffer the crime and violence and racial hatred; a la La Raza, and all the other organizations set up to fuck over the indigenous white people who were born there, and in the case of places like Sweden, have lived there since the beginning of time.

    But soon they too will have no place to call home, because the immigration proponents are feverishly doing all they can to destroy all white nations all over the planet. DUH

    and the worst among these apologists for white genocide, and the ones who hailed from those working class white communities in the first place. And have a perfect knowledge of all the mean-spirited little identity-politics butt-hurts all demanding access and privileges and open borders.

    those people really suck, because they know what they're doing

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Gwo6To1rbmg/T4FA2adcb8I/AAAAAAAABxg/XcFqgljmaSU/s1600/trials+5.jpg

    Never forget that affirmative action was not created by the brown immigrants who get all the privileges. It was a project of Presidents Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, VP Hubert Humphrey and those minions of Satan, federal and state judges.

    I held my nose and voted for Trump but way back before he entered the primaries he said something to the effect that he approved of affirmative action and wouldn’t change it. Johnson may have created AA but every President since then has expanded it. Even Kennedy sent a suggestion, not a directive or God forbid executive order to all federal agencies to start hiring QUALIFIED blacks.

    All Whites should make effort to avoid and evade taxes as much as they can. Try to get some cash only hustle, even renting out an extra bedroom. Cash the rent checks at the tenant’s bank and the tax man won’t find you. Just do what the immigrants do to avoid and evade taxes.

    The whole socialist thing is not that bad. We pay taxes to the government for taking care of the common good. But when Whites were excluded from the common good by the affirmative action act of 1968 our moral obligation to pay taxes or be good citizens ended right then and there.

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  91. Alden says:
    @Iribarren
    Thank you very much for your comment Bro Methylene , you are right . The " Black Legend " ( Leyenda Negra ) created mainly by the north european protestants against Spain and against catholics in general is a shame for mankind , it is a piece of hatred .

    Back in the 80`s , once I went to England and when I said that I was from Spain an englishman told me with obvious despise : so , you are a Popist !!! , to avoid a discussion I replied him ironically : yes my friend , I am a Popist , just like you . No ! he replied I am not a catholic , I am an anglican . That`s it man , I answered , we both are Popists , the only difference is that your Pope is the Queen of England , and my Pope is the Pope of Rome , OK ? , and finally he had to smile and stopped quarreling .

    The weirdest thing about the C of E is that unlike every other religion, the head of state is also the head of the religion. And weirdest of all, the King or Queen who is head of state has no religious training other than the standard religion classes that everyone else has. Some C of E kids do take a class for confirmation but that’s all the head of the religion takes.

    It’s very strange. The other protestant clergy take the standard clergy critter courses. All the founders of the lutherans, methodists, quakers, baptists and the other sects went to clergy college, but not the head of the C of E. The founder of the Mormons didn’t go to clergy college but he studied the bible and Christianity, unlike the heads of the C of E.

    Our intelligent and well read commenter Jilles Dykstra posts the black legend every chance he gets. Little does he know that his tiny little brothel of a country was literally built by Roman Catholic monks.
    400 AD some fanatic religious monks went to the western shore of the North Sea and built dykes and islands and filled them and gradually Holland was literally created from the Sea.

    Henry 8 often proclaimed that he created the Catholic Church of England. The only difference being the language of the service and who was the nominal head.

    The thing I don’t like about Christian services is the bible. If they could just sing and tell us to do good and avoid evil it would be all right. But they keep reading from the bible.

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  92. Ivy says:
    @Alden
    Mexico has 2.24 children per family. That is barely replacement rate. Catholic guilt? The Catholic religion was illegal in Mexico from 1926 to 1992.

    As far as I can remember back in the olden days when there were some White people with Spanish names around, they had families of 2 or 3 kids.

    Mexico IS improving its population both in looks ,height and intelligence. Mexico is exporting all its short, ugly, pot bellied 80 IQ people to the United States along with a substantial number of thugs with criminal records and warrants out.

    I bet the average IQ in Mexico rises a couple points every 5 years as the dumb ones lower the average IQ of Americans. Look at the California public school system. From always in the top 10 until about 1960 and then dropping, dropping, dropping every year down to # 47, 48, 49 all because of the low IQ Mexican kids.


    The real problem with Mexico is that the Whites have kept the browns so down. Most rural Mexican kids don't go to school past 5th grade and some not past 3rd. Reason is there are no school buses and the parents don't have cars. The rural schools, like ours are spread out and people live miles away.
    The educational levels would rise if Mexico would just raise the national taxes enough for school buses for all students. Mexico has a national, not local and state public school system.

    Mexico charges tuition for middle and high school which is another problem for poor Mexicans. So the rural poor make a big effort to get the kids through 3rd or 4th grade and then just keep them at home to do chores. City poor kids go out peddling and begging and doing odd jobs even they could walk or take public buses to school. Lots of girls become live in maids at 10 or 12.


    So the Mexican wealthy Whites are ridding themselves of their low class poor brown population by dumping them on America especially the south west.

    The big corporations especially anything to do with food all have 800 numbers posted and recruiters in the most primitive villages all over rural Mexico and Central America.


    I TRUST EVERYONE BOYCOTTS CHOBANI YOGURT WHO BROUGHT THE BOYS WHO RAPED AND URINATED ON A 5 YEAR OLD AMERICAN GIRL TO IDAHO.


    Blame hispanic immigration on the American corporations and small businesses who hire them.

    I once clicked around on the department of injustice web site. Discovered that the fine for "investigating" the driver's license and SS numbers of prospective employees is an unbelievable
    $375,000 to the employer. The fine for employing an illegal alien is $3,000. And less than a hundred employers are ever fined for hiring illegal aliens every year

    Effin’ Chobani won’t darken my refrigerator. And it is not as though there aren’t a lot of alternatives. Some brand equity seems like wishful thinking or creative accounting, notwithstanding a puff piece on 60 Minutes.

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  93. Rurik says:
    @Alden
    Please leave that poor girl alone.

    She only met Saint Travon The Martyr about 3 weeks before he was shot while trying to kill Zimmerman. She actually met him when the uninvited Travon crashed her 18th birthday party. They called and texted all the time. That was most of their relationship.

    And then she was thrust into the media frenzy and trial.

    I don't like blacks especially black women because I have worked with so many. But I really feel both maternal and female solidarity with Jeantel. Poor baby. I really wanted to protect her when the media frenzy went on.

    What if something like that happened to you? You met some skank somewhere and she got herself in a mess and because you were the only man in her life you got involved in the liberal crusade of the year.

    Please leave that poor girl alone.

    She only met Saint Travon The Martyr

    lol

    solidarity with Jeantel.

    You met some skank somewhere and she got herself in a mess and because you were the only man in her life

    I suppose that has happened before Alden

    No, I couldn’t possibly have any malice towards young Jeantel. And I did have sympathy for her, really.

    Not that it didn’t seem obvious to me that she knew who the ‘devils’ were and who the ‘good people’ were. It was just the kind of theater that Fred used to be so good at writing about. Pointing out the hilarity of the smug disciples of St. Travon, as only Fred could. And indeed, has:

    The crucial fact to come out of the whole adventure—crucial, and therefore utterly overlooked–was that Rachel Jeantel, a prosecution witness and black girl aged nineteen years, can’t read.

    https://fredoneverything.org/zimmerman-the-joys-of-hopelessness/

    No, my point and my problem with Jeantel is that the people (like Fred) demanding more Third World immigration into this country are perfectly willing to force every middle and working class white child (the children of the wealthy go to private schools) in every hamlet in this country to sit next to a Jeantel in their schools, and share the bus with them and immerse themselves into a cultural stew with the likes of a million more Jeantels from the Caribbean (and Mexico and Africa and elsewhere).

    And this influx is and has been and continues to be a catastrophe for the working class white children who get to sit next to Jeantel in their classrooms. And try to learn something when the person sitting next to you in class can’t, even after graduating, reed so much as a letter written in cursive English.

    And if Fred thinks the Mexicans who come here, are a quantum leap above Jeantel in their love of education, well then I say horse cookies.

    Mexicans languish far behind whites and even farther behind Asians. Of course everyone who has looked at this phenomena blames all of it on ‘white racism’ – which Fred is so keen to mock when the conversation is about St. Travon, but then loses his bladder when it includes Mexicans, for some mysterious and elusive reason.

    Hmmm

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  94. Ace says:
    @Iribarren
    Read the book " The american religion " by Harold Bloom , you will learn a lot

    Thank you.

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