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In my capacity of shade-tree anthropologist at large, I am trying to make sense of the far Left. It is tough sledding. Most of it makes as much sense as lug nuts on a birthday cake. Help me. I am really confused.

I can’t see that the Left actually is Left, I mean. The Left in its more practical embodiments used to be the champion of the working man. It fought for unions, good pay, benefits and job security. Conditions were horrible in America’s mines and factories. Things were ugly, and Leftists often got hurt or, occasionally, killed trying to remedy them.

Today’s “Left” is the party of Bill and Hill, of George Soros and the half-educated narcissists of Hollywood rolling in dough, of excessively comfortable academics and the media, all of whom use ethnic minorities as voting fodder but want nothing to do with them. When do you think was the last time Hillary or Megyn Kelly was in a truck stop or Legion hall, or had dinner in a restaurant where most of the diners were black?

The Left is now hostile to working men, called “deplorables” in an unwise moment of honesty by Hillary. Can you imagine Saul Alinsky or Leon Trotsky worrying about transgender bathrooms or cultural appropriation? And it is a weirdly teenage Left in which most seem ten or fifteen years younger that their chronological age. Oh good.

But now, feminists. They sound as crazy as Aunt Prudence, who thought she was a geranium, and we used to keep in the attic.

Feminists say they represent women. Oh? What possible reason do they have for thinking this deelusion? They have almost nothing in common with (most) women. Almost all feminists are of the extreme Left. Few women are. Feminists seem to be predominantly lesbians. Few women are. Most women want to marry (men) and have children. Few feminists do or will. Feminists are heavily invested in identity–i.e., bloc–politics, and think women should vote the straight femme ticket. When this doesn’t happen, they babble about “traitors to their gender.” In fact most women are independent agents who make up their own minds. Note the fifty-three percent of white women voted for Trump.

Do feminists represent anyone but themselves? What are they smoking? I want some of the seeds.

I assert that I am more of a feminist than today’s variety. Yes. You can think of me as Fred Dworkin Lite (by about three hundred pounds). Let me exlplain wny.

A question that needs to be asked is Do femiloons care about women at all? On the evidence, no. Consider female genital mutilation. You probably don’t want to, but just for a few seconds. In this charming ethnic custom, several women grab a terrified pubescent girl, pry her legs apart, and cut her private parts with a razor blade and no anesthetic, thus screwing up her sex life forever. The girls only occasionally die from an ensuing infection, so it doesn’t really matter. Unless, of course, you are the girl. .

Now, I grant that I am of little understanding, but the procedure looks to me like misogyny, extreme child-abuse, actionable assault and battery, and sadism.

But it doesn’t bother feminists I, Fred Dworkin, would take a ball bat to the women, and a ball bat and tin snips to the father who allowed it. This would create jobs in the wheelchair industry, grow the economy, and make America great again. But the harridans of the Left say not a word against this grotesque and kinky horror.

Why not? Here we come to the class system of the sinister set. Most of the people who slice their girl children are Muslim and, often, black. See map. In the weird hierarchy of today’s Leftists, blacks reign as the most sacred, trumping (forgive the expression) Muslims, who are more sacred than women, who are at the bottom in the rankings, after transgenders. No femiloon in good standing would dare criticize dark Mohammedans for torturing girl children. What kind of solidarity would that be?

Well, I, Fred Dworkin, will damned well criticize them, with a bat as noted above. So will easily ninety-five percent of white men. But not feminists, who don’t care. Neither would Ted Bundy, who liked to do that sort of thing.

Does no ne see an inconsistency here? Actually mutilating kids is OK. But when Trump was accused of possibly groping women who flock around an available billionaire for the purpose of being groped, the batty spinsters of the Left went berserk. Admittedly this was a minor adjustment to their usual demeanor, but it increased their volume. Why was this?

Now, if a white man refers to a hussy as a hussy, or says that a well-endowed woman is really stacked, he will be taken under siege by battalions of squalling potty-mouthed termagants as a misogynist, and likely remanded for psychiatric counselling and probableysubjected to reeducation.

But let’s look at some rap lyrics by blacks. I’m not sure “artists” is exactly the word, but we will overlook this for now:

“BITCHES AIN’T SH*T BUT HOES AND TRICKS / LICK ON THESE NUTS AND SUCK THE D*CK.” – SNOOP DOGG

“ONCE AGAIN I GOTTA PUNCH A BITCH IN HER SH*T / I’M ICY BITCH, DON’T LOOK AT MY WRIST / BECAUSE IF YOU DO, I MIGHT BLIND YOU BITCH.” – JASPER DOLPHIN OF ODD FUTURE

How lyrical. I, Fred Dworkin, feminist of the old school, would tolerate this sort of thing for about a Silicon Valley nanosecond. After which I would apply my utility bat, both to the lower primates who grunt this soaring sludge and to the music executives who disseminate it. No civilized society or, in our case, approximation thereof, should allow its women to be subjected to such gunch.

But feminists don’t say a word. Why?

ORDER IT NOW

Because out on the stranger reaches of the Left wing, where the feathers run out and giddy space begins, women rank below blacks. To criticize a black for treating women as vilely as the human mind can conceive, as sluts, hos, and worse–why, that would be eeeeeeeeeeeeeek!–.racism. In the fever swamps of the Silly Left, women suck hind tit, as we used to say in the country.

Eons ago, when I was in high school and fragments of the first amniote egg wete still scattered about, we had a concept called “gentility.” Not everybody could spell it, but it was expressed in two forms, called “ladies” and “gentlemen.” As country kids,, we didn’t know were doing these things, or being them. And we weren’t elaborate about it, no bowing and hand-kissing. But boys didn’t use foul language around girls, or they around us. We all knew about sex, or strongly suspected, but we just knew that girls were, well, sort of special, and there were things you didn’t do around them. It civilized us, something boys of that age greatly need.

Well, feminists weren’t having any of that. I saw a while back that some high school had a sign that said, “The more you act like a lady, the more he will behave as a gentleman.” Just so. If girls expect respect, they will get it.

But feminists honked and yowled and the sign came down. See, it was sexist. Yes. It implied that girls and boys were different. What a concept.

So we have: Fred Dworkin, against torturing girls. Femiloons-, ontent with it. FD–wouldn’t allow reference to women in language that would embarrass a sewer rat. Femiloons,,content with it. FD–would treat women with good manners and respect. Femiloons, against it.

Fred Dworkin 3, Feminists 0. Point, set, match.

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  1. frijole Fred, who has “seen the future and it works” in crony-capitalism-enforced-by-police-state-communism China, doesn’t understand how the the (former) pro-working class Left morphed into today’s vicious hierarchy of entitlement groups. The reason is:

    terminal Jewification.

    once the Tikkun Ola Jews noticed that the working class was being liquidated – first via becoming middle class and subsequently via globalist destruction – they had to come up with a broader amalgam based on entitlement groups – feminist, Black, Brown, Muslim, etc. – and a different enemy: instead of “capitalism”, Whites and White Western Civilization, and use it to keep themselves

    in charge. Easy enough, what with equally Jew’d, neo-con’d Conservatism Inc. helping them along every step of the way.

    as to explaining the hierarchy within the current White-genociding open-borders Tikkun Ola, frijole Fred’s explanation is brety gud.

    • Replies: @the grand wazoo
  2. Question: What would a an article written as a group effort by Steve Sailer and his commenters, John Derbyshire, Paul Kersey, Jared Taylor, and 1/2 the staff of VDare.com read like?

    Answer: Pretty much like this here! I’m not at all saying Mr. Reed hasn’t thought of all this stuff independently, but it’s also not like the alt-right and most thinking Americans haven’t known these idea for the last 10 or 20 years.

    Why the hatred for the alt-right and American conservatives, Fred? Is it just the Mexico thing? This article is a whole lot better than the American-bashing of late (before the 3 interesting China posts), but man, TELL US SOMETHING WE DON’T KNOW.

  3. Doesn’t track with religion, would be interesting to know what drives the different occurrence rates. Niger is 97% Muslim and has a 2% occurrence of FGM while Somalia has a 91% rate. Ethiopia is 66% Christian/33% Muslim, has a high rate at 74%. Kenya is 11% Muslim and has a FGM rate of 27%. Uganda is similarly 12% Muslim and has a rate of 2%. Cameroon is 21% Muslim and has a Niger-like rate of 2%.

  4. Renoman says:

    There you go again Fred, speakin de truth. That’ll get cha in real big trouble. You’re my hero Fred!

  5. mh505 says:

    Great rant, Fred, as usual.

    But who is Fred Dworlin?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  6. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, I, Fred Dworkin, will damned well criticize them, with a bat as noted above. So will easily ninety-five percent of white men.

    i have no doubt that Fred is dumb enough to but i doubt that 95% of white men would waste their breath on mooslim women who would gladly see them replaced in their own countries

  7. Fact for Fred: it’s game, set match, not point, set match.

    • Replies: @CCR
  8. @mh505

    But who is Fred Dworlin?

    He’s referring to a big fat feminist fuck* who’s no longer with us. Maybe I got it wrong, and she was his first wife, as a feminist may have wanted Mr. Reed to take her name … that would explain the one-way trip to Mexico …

    No, don’t ban me, Fred. I was just kidding on that ex-wife part!

    * Sorry, I’m not trying to cuss, but alliteration rocks, man.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. huisache says:

    megyn kelly is now a leftist? Or did I miss something?

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  10. Talha says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    There is an overlap with local culture (not religion) as well in some parts of Africa*.

    Also, as you likely know, Western Africa (like Nigeria and Senegal) mostly follow the Maliki school which only holds female circumcision as recommended. The Shafi’i school is the one that considers it mandatory; which is why you will see the practice ubiquitous in non-African contexts like Indonesia and among the Kurds.

    Useful map:

    Wa salaam.

    *For instance, among the Xhosa people (who aren’t generally Muslim), male circumcision is seen as a male right of passage:

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Alfred
  11. Anonymous[674] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks for the clarification.
    The only Fred Dworkin I ever heard of was the rather well-known New York rabbi who passed away not too long ago. So I was even more baffled than I usually am when I attempt to read Reed.
    But I’ve looked up “feminist Dworkin” and see there was some anti-pornography crusader in the 1980s by that name. So he is making a reference to someone relevant a few decades ago.
    I guess it’s like one column of his that I glanced at where he was talking about people wearing Members Only jackets. I had to look that reference up, too, to discover such jackets were a fashion fad in the 1980s.
    Maybe Reed stopped paying attention after that decade.

  12. marylou says:

    Good Catholic girl that I am, Fred did point something out I had not thought of and that really was not spread around on news. So Trump he was a sexist, but oodles of females hang around billionaires hoping to be groped…
    Why do they Really hang around billionaires?

  13. @Anonymous

    Actually, I wasn’t clear enough, as I was kidding around too much. It’s Andrea Dworkin that Mr. Reed is referring to, and I’m not sure if he’s paying her some kind of slight compliment even. I think she was a big (no pun intended) feminist in the 00’s, not the 1980’s, #674. He had a picture of her on one of his anti-feminist posts one time, and I made a comment about it there.

    Apparently, he’s having better luck with women down there in Mexico.

  14. @Talha

    As the USA still mutilates (circumcises) over 55% of the penises of its newborn boys, it has no moral right to preach to anyone that doing the same to girls is a such an unspeakably horrible crime. Fred, would you take your same ball bat to the heads of the parents that authorize the circumcision of their boys, and to the greedy doctor who did the deed (for money)? And please don’t say that MGM has health benefits. That old canard has been disproven long ago. If God didn’t want the foreskin to be there, we males would have been born without one.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  15. Reminds me of a book,When Sisterhood Was in Flower, by Florence King.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1030956.When_Sisterhood_Was_in_Flower

    Oddly enough, you can buy it used for about 5 or 6 bucks with free shipping.

    https://www.amazon.com/When-Sisterhood-Flower-Florence-King/dp/0552993751/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1544617403&sr=1-1

  16. @follyofwar

    At least after boys have their foreskin removed they still have a penis and can still enjoy sex. It seems the entire purpose of doing such an evil thing to girls is to ensure that they cannot enjoy sex. It’s a good thing that men are generally in the dark about the Gräfenberg spot or those societies would probably try to destroy that as well.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Carroll Price
  17. @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s the issue around here. They keep telling us things that we already know. Day after day, they point out the logical inconsistencies and questionable motivations of the globalists as though we’re in a college debate. Got it.

    Everybody has their own style – Steve’s the laid back SoCal guy, Derb’s the witty Englishman, Fred is the ranter, etc. But they all walk up to a certain line and stop.

    I suppose that part of the reason is that they are writing for newbies who need to be gently cleansed of their childish beliefs about what kind of country that they live in. But I also think that Steve, Fred, Derb and others are afraid of publicly (and, maybe, personally) acknowledging this truth: It’s over, we lost, the country that once was is dying and won’t come back.

    They seem to believe that if they just convince David Brooks and his fellow high-level Jews that they’re thinking is incorrect and that they should show some noblesse oblige to White goys (who, after all, treated them better than any country ever), we can right the ship.

    That’s not going to happen. First, the elite Jews who were instrumental in creating the world that we live in, are perfectly happy with the world that they’re creating. Second, I don’t know how much control Jews are going to have over blacks and browns in the future. NE Asians and Indians are working hard to push them out.

    Regardless, Steve, Derb, Fred, etc., should start to write about how Whites should deal with the very nasty future that’s coming our way, indeed, has already arrived. It’s time to stop making jokes behind the bully’s back and start thinking about how to deal with the bully.

    Steve and the Unz crew are fighting the last war.

  18. @Seoulsurvivor

    Your first sentence assumes that nothing ever goes wrong. It does – A LOT! Every year thousands of unfortunate boys have to endure circumcision repair surgery by a urologist to correct the botched initial one. These boys may lose their ability to maintain an erection sufficient for intercourse due to keratinization and loss of sensation. Every circumcised male suffers from a reduction in the nature-provided sexual experience, though most are in complete denial. Over 100 boys in the US die from this barbaric unnecessary procedure annually. Every claim regarding medical benefits has been debunked.

    As for FGM, there are several different types, ranging from a ritual nick, which is far less harmful than male circumcision, up to infibulation. In the recent FGM case brought against the female Islamic doctor, what was done to those girls was basically a ritual nick, done in accordance with that religious sect. OTOH hundreds of thousands of American boys are sexually diminished each year, due in no small part to the power of a different religion.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  19. anon[693] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    agreed. I read Steve et al. and, as a father with a couple young white kids I think: “okay, now what?”

    the ship’s going down, blacks and gays first, and I don’t know how to swim.

  20. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Yeah, I agree with the sentiment here. The thing is, iSteve, and unz in general, are not prepper sites. I used to read a lot from those, thinking the economic crash coming would have happened by now. I still think that financially-speaking, what can’t go on in this country, won’t go on.

    Not all the prepper sites are woke up (in the true sense) to understand the racial/diversity aspects of the deep problems of this country. Some keep it censored, and others just don’t mention it. I think there is a lot to be learned from those sites, and not just on which generator is the best, how to can peaches, and all that. Of course, it may be, as I’ve thought about, that you figure: why SHOULD I try to defend this place when these are the stupids that have been letting it all happen?

    You’ve got your prepping and possibly local bugging-out, and then you’ve got your total bail-out, as to Uruguay or the like. I have not decided on anything. That’s kind of unfortunate, as making a decision gets rid of lots of anxiety and being first is always best, whatever your choice is.

    Because, I am in a Rush mood, I have the line “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” in my head – from Free Will, from Permanent Waves:

  21. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I got a bit off topic in that last reply, CoaSC. About Mr. Sailer, Mr. Derbyshire, Mr. Reed, etc., sure they write well, and obviously a lot of it is interesting to you too, as it is for me. The commenting is fun too. I’m not saying that these guy are just writing for the few bucks and for fun though. Fred Reed excepted, I think these writers want to, and do, reach people and make a difference in those readers’ opinions.

    Yes, it’s too late to turn the whole thing around though. These guys may or may not know that. Yeah, it’s probably too depressing for them to just write columns lamenting what America was and predicting the near-future of America. It kind of turns off the readers, I guess, and that’s what those prepper sites are for anyway.

    Have a good morning, Citizen.

  22. Rurik says:

    predicting the near-future of America.

    quite the metaphor in the news today

    https://apnews.com/f9057e3ec66444a4a35247122ca68396

    gives new meaning to ‘protecting our bodily fluids’

  23. Rurik says:
    @follyofwar

    FGM case brought against the female Islamic doctor, what was done to those girls was basically a ritual nick, done in accordance with that religious sect. OTOH hundreds of thousands of American boys are sexually diminished each year,

    nobody cares about some obscure ‘ritual nick’.

    And there is no comparison between the relatively benign male circumcision vs. the barbarity of hacking off a girl’s clit – so that she won’t enjoy sex, and will therefor be more compliant.

    Circumcised men still enjoy sex, (and they also get more head – it’s a fact ; ) [less ‘cheese in the basket’ ; ]

    But to the larger point that Fredo makes, yes, the shrill shrieking of the feminist harridans is as principled as their moldering gash. No one was more dismissive of the British school girls getting gang raped and threatened with being doused with petrol, and lit of fire if they spoke out, than England’s execrable ‘feminists’. Just as they were in Australia, when it turned out the epidemic of gang rapes of teenage Australian girls was being perpetrated by Muslims. (oh! then who cares about those racist bitches)

    The best way to understand who really respects the dignity, honor and even sanctity of a woman’s body from those who would violate it, is to see the respective reaction to a violent, forcible rape.

    In the case of a modern feminist, all that matters are the ethnicities of the rapist and his victim. If the rapist is ‘diversity’, and the “victim” a member of ‘privilege’, (with a racist father or brother or husband, etc..), then she had it coming!

    Whereas if the victim was ‘diversity’, and the “rapists” were racists, then it doesn’t even matter if it really happened, the ‘sisterhood’ will vent their spleens and burst the dykes of their bile onto the ‘patriarchy’ with the vengeance of ten thousand fuglys.

    Whereas the men of the ‘Patriarchy’, (they all hate so much), are the ones who would put the rapist dog down with the ceremony of stomping on a scorpion. No matter the ethnicity of either victim or perp. A man or woman of integrity, with the compassion that goes along with it, have zero tolerance for violent rapists, and would see them dead.

    Not so the so-called ‘feminists’, who couldn’t give a rat’s ass over a brutalized girl, so long as her tormentor is of the sacred ‘diversity’.

  24. Rurik says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    then you’ve got your total bail-out, as to Uruguay or the like.

  25. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m not saying that people should go all prepper. I don’t. I’m just saying that Sailer and the Unz crew might occasionally move beyond just pointing logical inconsistencies and say, “Alright, assuming things continue on the path that they are, here might be some things to consider doing.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  26. @huisache

    Megyn Kelly is a Foxtard cuckservative.

    is there a difference?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  27. Da Wei says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Citizen of a Silly Country,

    I think you’re right. We get reworded versions of what we already know and is pissing us all off. And, probably speaking for a lot of us, you ask why.

    Our writers here don’t prescribe an active remedy and perhaps for these reasons: 1) they don’t want to be erased (or worse) for inciting specific acts; 2) there is no single pat answer to a problem that’s been created over time by a lot of sneaky malevolent bastards and perpetrated on fools; 3) There ain’t no answer and we’re screwed. No politician will step up for us and if we do ourselves we’re slandered and jailed. Ya can’t fight City Hall and the Jews own that place. Get 3 of us together and they summon ANTIFA.

    Maybe, just maybe, our writers figure that reminding us, the public, of the situation is about all they can do until something foments that can fix the mess. Here is an option: Get back to Minute Man Basics. Hunker down and prepare to fight, civilly and physically. Communicate and keep the faith. Plan.

    The lunatics and the cons all have unions, but with us it’s pretty much every man for himself. Well, how different was it in the early days, except that communication wasn’t so easily policed then and proximity worked in their benefit? All major change, all revolution, involves violence of some form. Hasn’t violence in many forms been heaped on us? Isn’t violence on us what affirmative action, dogged feminism, media bias, IRS, FED and all forms of government lying are all about? All these elements have shaken our lives violently. We have to prepare ourselves to fight back, stare down the bully and maybe kick some ass, and if we are unwilling to take the criticism and the blows, we can roll over and accept what is happening.

    I think plenty of guys have not been feminized and are willing to fight back. The question is one of technique. How to fight back? What to do will come if we are willing in spirit and physically prepared to accept the answer when it foments. It ain’t easy, but the bastards made it this way for a reason. They know they’d lose in a fair fight.

  28. @Ali Choudhury

    It’s those bulb-heads in Somalia, Eritrea and Ethiopia. It’s a bulb-headedism thing– you wouldn’t understand.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  29. Esaka says:

    But feminists honked and yowled and the sign came down. See, it was sexist. Yes. It implied that girls and boys were different. What a concept.

    That’s not the reason the sign came down. It came down because feminists hate it when women are held up to any standards whatsoever. Women get prerogatives, men get saddled with responsibilities and obligations.

  30. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I get your point, but to me that’s just the first step, or being a proto-prepper, if you will. What I mean is, again, not all of the prepper writing is about those details that, as you wrote, you are not into. You read a lot (used to on ZH when commenting there was Best-of-Web, IMO) about people’s worries on exactly how the country will change, so they can at least see some way to make a decent life for their kids.

    Anyway, sure, that writing from the unz bloggers would show more understanding and acceptance of the fact that, yes, “we are not stopping this.” and “things will not get back to 1965” (or even 1995). I will say this: Fred Reed is probably the least optimistic or most honest to himself in saying that America is done. However, I don’t know for sure – things can turn. I do not like giving up. If I did, my plans would be much more clear in my head.

  31. buckwheat says:

    Any country that tolerates that black filth known as rap or the 1st century Haji loons doesn’t deserve to survive. We are committing suicide by diversity……

  32. @Anonymous

    Far as I know, Members Only is a Sam’s Club brand – there may be others

  33. @follyofwar

    …ever hear of tonsillectomies? no? …how about appendectomies ? ..gallstones?

  34. @Seoulsurvivor

    It seems the entire purpose of doing such an evil thing to girls is to ensure that they cannot enjoy sex.

    Which explains why feminist approve of it, and would heartedly approve of removing boy's dicks if that were ever to become the custom.

    • Replies: @seoulsurvivor
  35. @Carroll Price

    By making those ridiculous comparisons, you show your ignorance. Unlike those three medical procedures you mentioned, a baby’s healthy foreskin is not diseased, therefore it is immoral to cut it.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  36. @Carroll Price

    The feminists’ wet dream is synthetic sperm. Totally eliminate men.

  37. @Rurik

    Who sang that song back in the 60’s – “American Woman …Please Stay Away!”

  38. @follyofwar

    No, the Who did NOT sang the song American Woman. Guess Who sang it.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Truth
  39. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    It’s a bulb-headedism thing– you wouldn’t understand.

    I am sorry, but that’s too much. I have been triggered by that extremely politically-incorrect term bulb-headism! The correct term is incandesence, thank you very much. Actually, even that term is frowned upon by the treehuggers. Those incandescents are killing the planet, man.

  40. @Da Wei

    I hope you’ll be back here for it, Da Wei. We need all the help we can get.

    • Replies: @Da Wei
  41. TG says:

    Missing the point.

    1. Most of this rubbish is designed to distract and confuse, like jamming a radar system. Every time you prattle on about LGBT toilets, the rich are sucking up trillions in public funds in subsidies to Wall Street mission accomplished.

    The ENTIRE POINT is that it’s POINTLESS!!!

    2. Muslims breed like rodents, and hence, are the most profitable source of cheap labor to be had. Thus, any criticism of opening the doors to such an endless horde of desperately poor people simply must be slandered as RACIST FASCIST AND LITERALLY HITLER. Because there is no rational reason to allow these vermin entry (other than of course cheap labor uber alles) and hence criticism of this policy must be extreme and (seemingly) irrational. Thus, female genetical mutilation cannot be mentioned.

    Any questions?

  42. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Haxo Angmark

    Megyn Kelly is a Foxtard cuckservative.

    is there a difference?

    Well cuckservatives are liberals. Modern leftists are liberals. So, not much.

    Old School leftists (assuming you can find any) are not necessarily liberals. I’m a leftist but I’m no liberal.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  43. @Rurik

    https://islamqa.info/en/answers/45528/medical-benefits-of-female-circumcision

    Note: I am not defending the practice. But it might be worth some response from those that engage it.

    I could not find the details of the included chart drawn from the UN study.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  44. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Da Wei

    I think you’re right. We get reworded versions of what we already know and is pissing us all off. And, probably speaking for a lot of us, you ask why.

    I’m sure they know that they’re not making many new converts but they figure that if they make a handful it’s better than nothing. And there are still a few poor benighted souls who hang out here who still think the Republican Party is going to save them. If a few of them finally give up their illusions it might be useful.

    Considering how very few of us there are who are aware of the scale of the approaching calamity even a small number of new converts is something.

    There’s not a lot that can be done apart from that.

    It’s also useful to keep up the spirit of the troops by letting them know that they’re not the only ones who see the iceberg looming ever closer.

    • Replies: @Da Wei
  45. dfordoom says: • Website
    @follyofwar

    As the USA still mutilates (circumcises) over 55% of the penises of its newborn boys, it has no moral right to preach to anyone that doing the same to girls is a such an unspeakably horrible crime.

    I’m trying to think of an issue that is less important than male circumcision. But I can’t.

  46. utu says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The Three Amigos Fred, Steve and Derb are charters from the Wizard of Oz: Cowardly Lion who needs courage, Tin Woodman who needs a heart and the Scarecrow, respectively. Of the three Fred has more recognizable human traits than the other two.

  47. Wally says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Female Genital Mutilation in Ghana

    perverted Rabbi performs bris ritual /circumcision

  48. Indeed, we live in a most confused world.
    Dutch leftists want to prevent a climate disaster, in order to do this, headlines this morning, energy prices as a result of tax increases just became known ‘ a warm house is becoming a luxury’.

    Weird and confusing is even more that the political parties who try to protect the poor, and average income citizens, are called extreme right, populist, racist, fascist, climate deniers, etc.
    What still is called political elite, I call them ruling class, do not seem to see how they’re undermining themselves, the French Yellow Vests until now do not seem to be a wake up call.
    Maybe in France the new De Gaulle has been found, retired general De Villiers, the highest commander in France.
    He retired after a row with Macron, about the EU army, now maybe a year ago.
    Do not remember the details.

  49. @TG

    Cheap labour.
    Dutch employers concluded that a third of the migrants is too stupid for the most stupid job.
    So what is cheap ?
    My, of course, limited experience with migrants in the Netherlands with a job is not encouraging.
    The Dutch police academy had to lower standards, it is rumoured (of course) in order to make it possible for those with migrant background to be admitted.

  50. CCR says:
    @Jim Sweeney

    It’s actually “point, game, set, match”.

    • Replies: @Jim Sweeney
  51. CCR says:

    Fred doesn’t seem clear on the difference between Leftism and Liberalism. Leftism is driven by pathological levels of compassion. Liberalism is driven by the desire for maximum individual autonomy. Most Liberals vote left, but not all.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  52. Alfred says:
    @Talha

    They should find another name for the female thing.

    “Circumcision” does not do it justice.

    Males don’t get their sex lives messed up when circumcised.

  53. Da Wei says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, Achmed E. Newman, I’m fixing to come back. Getting my things in order. Takes some doing, seeings how I’ll be going back to California. Was once good; now heap shit.

  54. Da Wei says:
    @dfordoom

    dfordoom,

    As we learned in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts: Do your best; Be prepared.

    There are 3 “stays” that I personally rely on:

    1) Stay alert and informed;

    2) Stay in contact (communicate);

    3) Stay prayerful that an effective action plan will emerge that is not too brutal.

    The number doesn’t worry me so much. Better fewer at the ready than a mass of dolts.

    If I might take liberty with what the poet wrote back in the day:

    “We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother…”
    And (if they don’t they will) hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.”

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  55. Che Guava says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik,

    I am curious as to the source of that hideous photo.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
    , @Anon
  56. Anon232 says:

    My 90-year-old mother is constantly puzzled that there has never been a hint of a feminist complaint against Lifetime, the “women’s cable channel”, as every female lead in the movies they broadcast is presented as a dangerous, obsessive and very murderous psychopath. She laughingly calls it “the psycho women’s channel”. Puzzling indeed.

  57. Johann says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    It is indeed over, the American Communist Left has won and ironically its leaders are all white males like Biden, Clinton, Kerry, Bushes, American Military, American educators, American Media, Americanized Christian clergy etc. . To quote Derbyshire “we are doomed”; we are just shifting the deck chairs on the Titanic as it fills up with sea water.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Anon
  58. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    While I sympathize with the rage i think sans Reed your frustration is misdirected, guys like sailor derb etc have sacrificed a lot for the cause long before most understood the situation at all.And they are very effective, redpilling normies is a very difficult task pretty much impossible for the average person it takes great patience and cunning. You would be better directing your wrath at actual cucks posing as men of the right like Jordy and co .
    As for whats to be done, well kill them all obviously, or at least enough that the others fall in line. But a moments reflection will reveal this i not so easy as it seems. that is if you’re really serious and not wanting to bloviate about muh gun in muh woods.Most wars are won before a shot is fired, if you cant say you have this war won you better not go ahead and fire.guys like Mcveigh and brevik certainly struck blows but they lost ground a lot of it. As did the whole militia movement. Certainly men who are woke should get prepared for a real war and thats not easy because it expensive and disruptive and may never happen, youll want to move to white areas that are being targeted by leftists most are these areas tend to be rural and poor economies.The left has been building their power base for 500 years a little mind fucking every generation the most far right of us probably are pozd beyond repair. what level of patriarchy do you favor for western nations for instance and please explain how it will not proceed from that point to where it is now. of all the tactics the (((left))) has used womens equality has been the most effective like all the tactics the jews used the seeds were already within our uniquly liberal white culture. whites unlike any other people are individualists that rarely suffer authoritarian rule long , all our nations from athens to current year have high female status to a much greater degree, we always seem to become a cerebral people of an idea rather than a thede, and this inevitable makes us an open trusting civilization while all these things have served us well they are also the path of pozz the jews and others use. Do you understand even that a patriarchy to function women must again be property at least technically and that like all cultural civilization issues the finer points will be too difficult for law to handle law being a universalist theology and so how women are treated by their masters will need to be pretty much a cultural enforcement which would again be a temptation to those who would want to institutionalize some wait for it basic human rights”
    Now I dont know how much you have read or thought about the dark enlightenment but this is one of a thousand problems a refounded west civ faces if not to merely roll it back a decade. how many of the deeply conservatives paleos, the conservative christians, cuckservatives, the paleos, the channers, alt lighters, the muh constitutionalists, are ready to here about their mothers sisters daughters and wives needing to be deeded over to their masters???????? Even someone like myself who understand the need cant sign off on it without some assurances that i cant even name let alone describe how to get their from here.
    So instead we just revert o fuck it lets just kill them all then worry about it.well youre going to need to convince a lot more of the leaders of the west because as individualist as as whites may be humans are fundamentally social animals and rightism is best described as a return to hierarchical authority and away from distributed authority, so youre asking men to give over their power from a weak authority to a strong one, tough sell to white men we being the people of the distributed power and all. in order to do this you need to convince them things will be ok that in fact they will have more actual power in the milleus they care about their families and localities. its complex. complex men need to come to understand that leftism is doomed that it cant simply be fixed and that it will be ok but we are up against 500 years of propaganda that it will not be ok, and of course all leftist propaganda is a little true and there are real problems that leftism addressed that rightism must now address better. yes get your guns find a place to make a stand join the elks and a church and redpill them make money have lots of kids and homeschool them but choose your wife very very carefully or you will be funding leftists

  59. @ Dvorkin:
    There is no such thing as lug nuts. There is only such a thing lug bolts.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  60. @follyofwar

    Well how about surgically removing a healthy 6th finger on the left or right hand? Trust me – if you or someone you love has problems getting it up and keeping it up, it has nothing to do with a missing foreskin.

  61. @TG

    Invading hoards of Muslims & Christians come looking for loot and females captives, not employment opportunities.

  62. @dfordoom

    If you’re a leftist, you’re a Marxist – whether you realize it or not.

  63. @EliteCommInc.

    In relatively rare cases where the female clit is completely hooded, blocking stimulation of the clit during intercourse, female circumcision is entirely beneficial.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoral_hood

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  64. @Alfred

    Males don’t get their sex lives messed up when circumcised.

    Do the hundreds and thousands of baby boys killed by it, have their sex lives messed up?

    Do the tens of thousands of those who live with a “botched circumcision” and half their glans penis removed, have their sex lives messed up?

    A “successful” circumcision removes AT LEAST MOST of the nerves in a male’s genitals; it is literally retarded to suppose that doesn’t alter and diminish a man’s experience of sex, and ultimately its expression of his Branch on the Tree of Life.

    Can a male with a diminished set of genitals, a circumcised male like most adult White Americans, objectively argue the effects of said diminishment, when the act of acknowledging negative effects is itself a negative thing?

    120 MILLION American babies had their genitals diminished, against their will and without their consent. The concern over African and or Muslim girls, is hypocrisy of the first order. Such glaring hypocrisy is itself evidence of the damaged thinking that the ritual brings into effect.

    In practice and effect, circumcision is the mark of a slave.

  65. @Rurik

    nobody cares about some obscure ‘ritual nick’.

    And there is no comparison between the relatively benign male circumcision vs. the barbarity of hacking off a girl’s clit – so that she won’t enjoy sex, and will therefor be more compliant.

    Circumcised men still enjoy sex, (and they also get more head – it’s a fact ; ) [less ‘cheese in the basket’ ; ]

    Wrong on all three assertions.

    Much of the recent controversy about FGM by Muslims in the USA, is in response to the case of the FGM done by the Michigan doctor to the Somali girls living in Minnesota, which procedure was the ritual nick, wherein no tissue is removed. It is a good question: What frequency of FGM committed in this country, is of that type? In any case, it is a FACT that White Americans men and women both, vociferously oppose the procedure as executed on those girls.

    As for the comparison being invalid between male circumcision and the “hacking off of the clit” — wrong again. In FACT the standard circumcision as committed on the American baby boy removes TWICE AS MANY nerve endings than are contained in the clitoris. The standard numbers on those two counts, are 20 thousand versus 9 thousand.

    On whether “circumcized men still enjoy sex.” Many of them do not. The ones killed by the procedure most certainly do not. And those who suffer from “botched” circumcisions wherein their glans is partially removed are often prohibited from sex by their mark of shame. Also many men are inhibited by not having intact God-given and fully evolved genital sets.

    And it is self evident that having less dick, means less enjoyment of sex. The innervation profiles of an intact penis versus a circumcised, are radically different. The circumcised penis is much closer to a lesser primate’s in its innervation.

    Regarding “dick cheese” aka smegma. There are peer reviewed studies from Poland, which state that dick smegma is a chemical precursor to oxytocin being produced by the woman during sex.

    Circumcision is not a minor procedure. Those who argue that it is, almost always — scratch that: ALWAYS — are arguing so from the position of justifying it as they have some personal stake in it.

    So that their arguments are in fact biased to begin with.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Christo
  66. Mike P says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You can figure out from the title that this isn’t going to be groundbreaking stuff. It is simply entertainment – which is more than you can say for most of the gentlemen you credit with prior art.

  67. @Carroll Price

    Well how about surgically removing a healthy 6th finger on the left or right hand? Trust me – if you or someone you love has problems getting it up and keeping it up, it has nothing to do with a missing foreskin.

    How could you know that?

    Have you talked with many of them, or even any of them? I recently had a conversation on youtube with a man, otherwise good looking and young, who had half his glans penis removed in a “botched” circumcision. It is reasonable to figure that he has issues. If it’s shameful to have such issues — do you think men are eager or willing, or reluctant, to discuss them when for doing so they will be mocked for their very manhood, abridged and diminished though it be.

    “trust me” — Why are you to be trusted on this matter? What are the odds that you have a stake in justifying the diminishment of baby boy genitals? What are the odds you are bought into the procedure by having had it done to someone in your family.

    A intact set of male genitals is not a sixth finger. What an absurd and STUPID comparison.

    Men were evolved with five finger on their hands, and intact genitals between their legs. To compare the removing of a genetic deformity, which is what is a sixth finger, to the removal of a baby’s intact genitals, reveals an ugly bias. Why are you comparing a genetic deformity, to a man’s God-given genitals.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  68. @Rurik

    Who would be a tattooist?

  69. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Yes, Virginia Ilyana, there are lug nuts. Those are what attach your wheels to the hubs on your vehicle. There are no lug bolts, though, as they are studs, to use the correct term. That is, they have no heads on the other side, and are either screwed in tight to the wheel hub or press fit.

    That doesn’t explain Andrea Dworkin very well. Perhaps Fred should have used a comparison to another part of the vehicle. She was more like an exhaust manifold with neither a catalytic converter nor a muffler to mitigate the wretched fumes and noise, respectively.

  70. Che Guava says:
    @Alfred

    You should read the thread before making an ignorant comment.

    See post 18 by follyofwar. It is accurate.

    This is in no way to approve of it, I also disapprove of male genital mutilation.

    As for the forms listed by follyofwar, it seems that many western women recently are voluntarily choosing the mildest (labia ‘trimming’) as a type of cosmetic surgery.

    MGM is closer to the second.

    As a challenge, I ask you to comment on a major loonie left-wing site (say, the Guardian or similar) when they timidly discuss FGM (mustn’t disclose the truth abt. most mudslimes, sure, not all), and try to raise the question of MGM.

    I am serious. Try it. Enjoy the reactions.

    Genital mutilation of infants is clearly wrong.

    Iceland’s parliament recently voted to extend their law to forbid male genital mutilation, but that was defeated by their tiny Jewish community with the help of their powerful friends abroad.

  71. Why would Hillary go to Sylvia’s in Harlem when she can go to Elaine’s on the Upper East side? The Jewess wannabe knew that Sylvia Wood could cook up some mean hog maws and chitterlings but to get juicy corned beef and brisket, she had been better off with Elaine Kaufman…

  72. Why do feminists fantasize about representing straight white women? Because those butchy dykes of Jewish extraction dream about rolling in the hay with Megan Kelleys of the world but as long as the babes prefer men to “them things”, the ogres feel obliged to press the white men out of the way, either by hook or by crook!

  73. In the weird hierarchy of today’s Leftists, blacks reign as the most sacred, trumping (forgive the expression) Muslims, who are more sacred than women, who are at the bottom in the rankings,

    Not always. Ask Neil DeGrasse Tyson. . .

  74. @Achmed E. Newman

    That was a question. I didn’t say that the Who sang it.

  75. @dfordoom

    The power of “Denial” is exceedingly strong, especially among those who have been forcibly circumcised. Most never develop the insight necessary to take the Red Pill and free themselves from the shackles of the Overton Window.

  76. Dr. X says:

    I, Fred Dworkin, feminist of the old school, would tolerate this sort of thing for about a Silicon Valley nanosecond. After which I would apply my utility bat, both to the lower primates who grunt this soaring sludge and to the music executives who disseminate it.

    Ummm… would you be referring to beating blacks and Jews, there, Freddie???

    Off to gulag with you!!!!

  77. Fuzzy says:

    There’s at least one reason for male circumcision. When my son was born in 1973, my father, a WW II and Korean vet, called me up to tell me to make sure to get him circumcised. In the filth of the field, uncircumcised men were prone to awful infections. And since you never know when they’re going to start drafting for War Inc again, I’d say American boys, at least, should be circumcised.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @byrresheim
  78. @follyofwar

    Guess Who sang it.

    (OK, man, this is one of those “Who’s on first?” routines, if that helps. You started it.) ;-}

  79. @follyofwar

    Aaah, here you go. It’s a different song (to me two better tunes together) by the Canadian band:

  80. @Suburban_elk_15

    Spoken like a man who knows his subject. You said it better than I could. Regarding cut males who deny they’ve been damaged by the knife, two terms often used in Intactivist circles are Trauma Based Mind Control and Cognitive Dissonance.

  81. @Fuzzy

    Alternately, instead of butchering your boy you could raise him not to go abroad to murder people he doesn’t know.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Fuzzy
  82. Swan Knight says: • Website
    @Ali Choudhury

    Cameroon produces giant basketball starz

  83. Talha says:
    @Alfred

    I think it is quite prudent for the Muslim world to hold its ground on our terms and our definitions. One thing I have learned from the mistakes of the Right and conservatives in the West is that you should never allow others to define terms and set the parameters of the debate.

    Islam allows female circumcision as described by the school that considers is mandatory:
    In Nihayah 8/35, after mentioning the official position of the Shafi’i School, that circumcision is obligatory for both men and women, Ramli defines what it means for a woman. He says that it is the removal of some skin from the clitoral prepuce. This is also mentioned by Ibn Hajar in Tuhfah 9/198.
    In these passages, the word “bazr” is mentioned. Sahib al-Misbah al-Munir mentions that the”bazr” in circumcision is the prepuce. Thus, what is intended is a part of the prepuce surrounding the clitoris and not the clitoris itself.

    http://shafiifiqh.com/question-details.aspx?qstID=173

    Other invasive procedures such as removal of the clitoris, sewing shut the vaginal canal, etc. are genital mutilation (FGM) with us also, thus Muslims should have no problems prohibiting this among Muslims in Muslim lands. This is something we can find common ground on with Western concerns and should be readily available to pool resources and efforts to combat.

    I am not certain if we can prohibit this for our religious minorities (for instance, Copts also have their own procedure in Egypt) since it may come under protected cultural and religious practices as per long-standing dhimmah agreements; this is above my pay grade to determine.

    As for Muslims in non-Muslim lands, we should obey the laws of the land and – as the scholars I cited made clear, any Muslims following the Shafi’i school normally, can simply adhere to the opinions of the other schools in the matter:
    “This is the opinion maintained by other scholars who considered that it is recommended or simply a noble deed, like Imam Abu Hanifah and Imam Malik. A woman following the Shafi’i School could make taqlid of these opinions.”

    Not a hill to die on in the West.

    If the West insists on calling our specific (as outlined above) procedure FGM, it will be duly ignored. We constitute a quarter of the world’s population and will not be lectured to. They can also equate male circumcision to castration – won’t make a difference.

    Peace.

    Note: Since I follow the Hanafi school, this is a non-issue – you will be hard pressed to find this occurring in places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey and the Central Asian “Stans”.

  84. @Achmed E. Newman

    You’ve got your prepping and possibly local bugging-out, and then you’ve got your total bail-out, as to Uruguay or the like.

    Patagonia. You’re welcome.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  85. Agent76 says:

    Jan 14, 2012 Feminism Was Created To Destabilize Society, Tax Women and set up the NWO

    Hollywood producer, filmmaker, activist and truth seeker Aaron Russo reveals some of the REAL reasons for feminism which was funded and pushed by the Rockefellers and the CIA for very nefarious reasons, which includes being part of their central banking worldwide takeover to help set up the New World Order.

    The full interview is located in the show notes

  86. @Stan d Mute

    Patagonia.

    How old are you? North Face is what all the cool kids wear.

    (and, thank you.)

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  87. Agent76 says:

    Dec 10, 2018 South Africa – first target for EXPROPRIATION

  88. @Carroll Price

    It does seem like somebody is obsessed with cock in this thread. Who knew Unz was the place to purge one’s anger at being hung like a hamster? I’d think an incel or fag blog more appropriate, but then I don’t obsess about cock all day either so what do I know..

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  89. @Bill Jones

    Alternately, instead of butchering your boy you could raise him not to go abroad to murder people he doesn’t know.

    Actually, if my boy was that cock obsessed, I’d encourage him to go abroad if he can’t get a broad. Better than seeing him on the evening news for shooting up a college campus here. Aren’t there websites and blogs chock full of cocks where this subject is more germane? Perhaps even a local bathhouse would be a more appropriate venue for the cock obsession than Ron Unz’s site?

  90. Fred, I admit I’ve been drinking a bit, but I love you.

    ‘I would apply my utility bat, both to the lower primates who grunt this soaring sludge and to the music executives who disseminate it. ‘

    There’s that Jew exec, forget his cretan name, who seems to dominate them all. As for the negroids, they’ll never know anything but ‘kill m’f’n whitey’. They be dummmmmmmmmmmmmmb. F””””””””””””cks.

  91. @Achmed E. Newman

    ‘Tell us something we don’t know.’

    I’ve thought this many a time with Fred. Yet, Fred does put it pretty darn well. My take is, Fred’s coming at us from the angle of the Naive. I think so anyway, as I often do this myself, a habit, and I think not a bad one, from childhood.

  92. @marylou

    ‘Why do they Really hang around billionaires?’

    Because they (the women) are garbage, and they (the men) have huge black dongs? Sorry, I did just have in mind NBA billionaires, so maybe you could elaborate on your imagined population at large?

  93. @dfordoom

    ‘I’m trying to think of an issue that is less important than male circumcision. But I can’t.’

    My God, is it Dworkin (dfordoom) herself??
    But MY GOD, what has the world come to when one is so callous that she can laugh at the TORTURE OF A BABY?!? Words can do no justice. If I saw you in person, I’d let you know what I think of you, you scum f’k.

  94. @Che Guava

    ‘I am curious as to the source of that hideous photo.’

    I know you are Japanese, but, if you have the chance, walk down any main or high street in America or England.

  95. @Carroll Price

    No, getting and keeping it up, also size, have nothing to do with foreskin. But pleasure does. And the obvious fact that it is very painful and pointless, and inflicted on babies.

  96. @Carroll Price

    ‘I’m a leftist, but no liberal.’
    ‘If you’re a leftist, you’re a Marxist–whether you realize it or not.’

    Pseuds, stop throwing around your college-educated terms that don’t mean shit.

  97. @Carroll Price

    ‘In relatively rare cases where the female clit is completely hooded, blocking stimulation of the clit during intercourse, female circumcision is entirely beneficial.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoral_hood’

    You even cite wikipedia, as if you don’t have a clit yourself. But give it a shot, hooded though it is: like the male foreskin, the (intense) pleasure is still there, in all its (elevated) glory.

  98. Fuzzy says:
    @Bill Jones

    If you are drafted, you don’t have much choice, unfortunately. But if you are really worried about circumcision and you are not rich, you can always gamble on the draft never being reinstated.

  99. I agree fully, Fred however you have overlooked MGM ~

    I understand it is prevalent among teh WHITE JEWS in ISRAEL, and Both Christians and WHITE Jews, in the AMERICAS

    For Christians, of all colors, it is a “holdover” from Judaism !

  100. @Suburban_elk_15

    ‘In practice and effect, circumcision is the mark of a slave.’

    Agree with all you say. In fact, it’s the mark of the Jew, and by extension, the Catholic. Don’t know or much care about the Jewish end, but the Catholic way is easy enough to understand: renounce life, and by extension everything therein, pleasures of all kinds and most obviously sex, all the other corrupt ways of the world. Are people still doing this, or was I of the last generation before Generation Jew took over?

  101. @Suburban_elk_15

    WELL?? Let’s hear dear Carole’s response.

  102. Following my previous comment, as I ran out of time, to add this part, it seems:

    Muslims did FEMALES and Christians and Jews did MALES

    Was one worse than the other?

  103. @Carroll Price

    Based on your comments in this article you are clearly uninformed, clinging to long ago instilled superstitions and very intent on damaging your intellectual credibility. Read:

    https://circumcision.org/circumcision-affects-female-sexual-pleasure/

  104. @Stan d Mute

    ‘purge one’s anger at being hung like a hamster? I’d think an incel or fag blog more appropriate, but then I don’t obsess about cock all day either’

    You don’t obsess about cock all day? What about your own? I’ll bet something flashes into at least your subconscious, oh, every minute or so?

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  105. @CCR

    Yes though if you have the game, the point is over and it’s unnecessary to restate the obvious. As a former USPTA pro, I’m well aware of the details but Fred was not.

  106. It’s tough out there for all us males now-a-days. We just gonna’ have to throw on some “cuntry” and drink through it.

  107. dfordoom says: • Website
    @CCR

    Fred doesn’t seem clear on the difference between Leftism and Liberalism. Leftism is driven by pathological levels of compassion. Liberalism is driven by the desire for maximum individual autonomy.

    Liberalism is a right-wing ideology. It is the most socially destructive ideology ever devised. Only individuals exist. There is no such thing as society. It’s a recipe for chaos, degeneracy, alienation and misery.

    Most Liberals vote left, but not all.

    Most liberals in the U.S. vote for the Democrats, which is not by any stretch of the imagination a left-wing party. It’s a right-wing pro-business party.

    Here in Australia most liberals vote for the Labor Party, which is a right-wing pro-business party.

  108. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Da Wei

    There are 3 “stays” that I personally rely on:

    1) Stay alert and informed;

    2) Stay in contact (communicate);

    3) Stay prayerful that an effective action plan will emerge that is not too brutal.

    The number doesn’t worry me so much. Better fewer at the ready than a mass of dolts.

    Agreed. Number 2 is the really vital one. And I think it’s the reason that what people like Sailer are doing is worthwhile.

    • Agree: Da Wei
  109. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Johann

    It is indeed over, the American Communist Left has won

    Well at least you’ve given me a good laugh.

    The Communist Left has been utterly destroyed. Today’s Left is not merely pro-capitalist, it is a willing tool of capitalism. It is funded by bankers and billionaires. Hint: bankers and billionaires are not very keen on the dictatorship of the proletariat or the socialisation of the means of production.

    Bankers and billionaires support reliable right-wing politicians like Biden, Clinton, Kerry, Bushes.

    • Agree: byrresheim
  110. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:

    But when Trump was accused of possibly groping women who flock around an available billionaire for the purpose of being groped by. a billionaire

  111. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Carroll Price

    If you’re a leftist, you’re a Marxist – whether you realize it or not.

    That’s OK. I can respect Marxists. Actual marxists, not the cultural marxist scum who are not marxist at all.

  112. @daniel le mouche

    Apparently I’m the only one around here who doesn’t long for the tender touch of a mohel on my manhood.

    Baruch ha-ha indeed.

  113. Skeptikal says:
    @marylou

    They hang around billionaires because bills are powerful men. Powerful men don’t have to be cute.
    Look at Henry the K.
    Ugggggly.
    but he got a fairly decent-looking wife, taller than him.
    So why do women hang around powerful men? Because power men have power, dummy!! Because they have money. Because a woman can do quite well for herself, and her children, if there are any, if she gets connected to a powerful, rich man. If the woman can pull it off, she can snag the guy with sex.
    I believe quite a lot of research–serious research–has been done on the asymmetry between men and women when it comes to the importance of looks. More imp. to men; less to women.

    Look, guys: It is an equal amount of trouble to hang out with a poor guy as a rich one. So, why not try to get the rich one? It’s elementary, my dear.

  114. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Feminism is promoted by Jewish Power for one main goal: To drive a wedge between white men and white women. And Jewish feminists and Jewish male oligarchs wink-wink understand one another.

    The reason why Feminism Inc. shuts up about Muslim or African atrocities to women is because such an outcry would draw white men and white women closer together. White women would realize that white men are the nicest and most protective of women’s rights and freedom. White women then come to realize that white women under white men gained the most freedom and rights. Therefore, if feminism were to denounce such things as clitoris-mutilation, it would imply that white guys are the best. White guys don’t do such to their women.

    Of course, feminists are privately horrified by clitoris-mutiliation, but they have a sense of priorities. Because the main priority of Feminism Inc(promoted by Jews) is about driving a wedge between white men and white women, what Muslims/Africans do to young girls is ignored. Now, if white Christian men did such to women in Russia, Hungary, or the White South, there would be a huge outcry. Priorities sacrifice other considerations, esp. if the latter interfere with the priorities. It’s like Jewish Power is so hellbent on weakening Russia that it even overlooks the fact that some of its allies in Ukraine are Neo-Nazis.

    We know there is far more rape among black and brown underclasses than among white college students, but then, why does Feminism Inc. make such a big fuss about Aryan-Blonde Fratboy Rapists while remaining mostly mum about all the rapes in the black community(and among browns too)?
    It is to create the impression that Privileged White Male is the biggest enemy to white women. White women are told that white men are the top rapists and tyrants, and therefore, white women should ally with non-whites and hate on whitey. And white women are to welcome Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs and Afrobortion(the black baby effectively kills the white-baby-that-could-have-been with the white womb).
    Also, if black women and brown women who are raped by their own men feel some degree of tribal obligation to shut up and not air their dirty laundry, white women are encouraged and rewarded for howling about any perceived ‘white male evil’, even if its fantastical. Since most people are like dogs that seek approval from the Power, so many white women go along.

    Sadly, Ju-Cucks-Clan rule America. Jewish elites and their cuck-compradors.

  115. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Johann

    It is indeed over, the American Communist Left has won

    Right, Wall Street billionaires and their homo-tranny cheerleaders are Communist.

  116. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    It isn’t only the Feminists who are hypocritically blinkered by Ideological or Tribal priorities.

    So are those in Conservatism Inc. If these people really care about justice and equality, why are they so silent about Zionism’s crushing of Palestinian women and the Occupation of West Bank? Where were they when US sanctions were killing 100,000s of Iraqi women and children? And if Conservatism is really into dignity for women, why the silence about Jewish role in the White Slave Trade? Jewish-Russian mafia shipped tons of Slavic women to Israel to work as sex-slaves. And the main force behind whore-ization of white girls in the US is Jewish. Also, Jewish moguls promoted ugly Rap music. Jews are also the main force behind porn that is now available even to kids on internet.

    The fact is Conservatives don’t really care about Muslim or African girls either. They are also selective in their outrage. The only reason they talk about Female Genital Mutilation is because it’s one of the few permitted ways by which white people can say ‘our civilization is better’. Whites better not say anything how white ways are better than black ways or how Christianity is kinder than Judaism in its outlook. But they can still howl about the Mooooslims(even though most Muslims don’t do genital mutilation while plenty of African pagans do, along with other ugly practices).

    Also, it is a way by which white Conservatives plead to Jewish power to take side of whites. White Conservatives are saying that whites and Jews share common values about freedom for women — though the main female freedom in the current West is ‘muh pu**y’ — and therefore Jews should side with whites against the Other. It’s more political than moral.

  117. Anon[599] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The only Fred Dworkin I ever heard of was the rather well-known New York rabbi who passed away not too long ago. So I was even more baffled than I usually am when I attempt to read Reed.

    Yeah, that seemed really odd. His obit: http://obits.nj.com/obituaries/starledger/obituary.aspx?n=fredric-s-dworkin&pid=163438024

    But it’s only some obscure pun.

  118. @Anon

    We know there is far more rape among black and brown underclasses than among white college students, but then, why does Feminism Inc. make such a big fuss about Aryan-Blonde Fratboy Rapists while remaining mostly mum about all the rapes in the black community(and among browns too)?

    Because the fratboys have things the feminists want – status, money, and (when they find employment) power.

    White feminists do not care about black and brown underclass rapists, because they do not have anything the feminists want to take.

    • Replies: @Anon
  119. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Proggery is a strange phenom in being moralistic and ‘puritanical'(like Victorianism) but in the service of immorality. Proggies are often more fanatical than church ladies of old in their judgementalism, BUT what they’re trying to force upon us all is the notion that homo fecal penetration is like the ‘rainbow’, a man cutting his pud off and prancing around like a ‘woman’ is glorious, and corrupted children ‘transitioning’ into freakdom at the earliest possible age is oh-so-adorable.

    This is what is so gross about the current Proggery. Progs are Pro-gross-ives who think they are morally most evolved.

    In the past, certain progressives defended immorality, decadence, and degeneracy on grounds of individual choice and liberty. In other words, they understood that certain behaviors were perverted and/or disturbing but should be a matter of choice for free individuals. Surely, some people pushed for more licentiousness for profit-sake. There was lots of money to made from racy stuff. But there were people who believed in the democratic principle of individual choice.

    Today, what goes by the name of ‘progressivism’ is no longer about tolerating perversion and defending individual choice but about forcing people — by means of state, finance, media, and etc — to celebrate perversion and abnormality as the new morality and the ‘New Normal’ and destroying them if they don’t comply. Neocons were mostly worthless in this battle because most of them agreed with stuff like Homomania and used their muscle to restrain Conservatism Inc. from resisting.

    Now, Perversion works side by side with Inversion. Perverts act perverted, and Inverts command us to celebrate and keep waving the homo ‘rainbow’ flag. The fact that so many people fell for this nonsense goes to show most of humanity is shallow and stupid. Just like so many Chinese were led to believe foot-binding made good sense, so many modern idiots think ‘gay’ = holiness.

    Even masses upon masses of people can so easily be manipulated into supporting craziness. With control of just a few key levers of society — mind-center, media, and money — , and it takes just a generation or two to see the rise of New Consciousness.

    Most people are essentially herdians or cattlerarians. Change the idols, dogma, and narrative, and it won’t be long before most people’s mindset goes from A to B, or B to D, to D to Z. Notice how millennial idiots cannot even conceive of justice without the holy institution of ‘same sex marriage’.

    An observer in America 100 yrs ago might have noticed that most white people are good Christians and might have concluded that such widespread belief was a manifestation of strong faith and profound conviction with deep roots.
    But in fact, most white people were good Christians back then only because the Social and Cultural norms promoted Christianity and punished(socially if not always legally) those deemed overtly blasphemous.

    So, the mass faith and conviction had less to do with roots, tradition, and/or individual conscience. Most people grew under Christian power/influence and predictably regarded themselves as good Christians.

    But if the nature of power changes and if the new power alters the narratives and idols, it won’t take long before (what seemed like)’tradition’ and ‘roots’ are lost almost instantly. Notice how quickly Americans came to worship the holy homo.
    Same in Russia in the 20th century. Because of its deep Monarchic and Orthodox roots, one might have assumed those institutions would have a strong hold on the Russian people regardless. But it didn’t take too long for the Bolsheviks to take power and change the curriculum, holy dogma, and idols as means to create a new consciousness. In no time, there were plenty of Russians who worshiped Lenin and were eager to blow up as many churches as possible and laugh over the fact that the Tsar and his family were wiped out. And notice how quickly Japanese went from worshipers of the Emperor to shameless running dogs of the US. It wasn’t just a matter of cowering before the Victorious Power. Many Japanese really did become happy whores of Uncle Sam almost overnight.

    So, in a way, nothing has really changed in human psyche since then and now. People were good Christians back then not out of conviction, roots, and tradition but in mindless conformity to prevailing values back then. And people today are ‘good’ Homomaniacs because the New Power(esp those of Jews) uses its immense media, academic, and financial power to promote Globo-Homo. Then as now, people were always herdians and cattle-arians.

    Emotionally, women are bigger herdians than men are. And children are easily manipulated. This is why proggery targets women and children above all else. Female emotions being what they are, women can more easily be manipulated with huggy-tuggy heart-herding. And kids can be made to believe anything. After all, they can even be made to believe in Santa.

  120. @Anon

    … that it even overlooks the fact that some of its allies in Ukraine are Neo-Nazis.

    Please take the time to research the meaning of “Holodomor”.

  121. Christo says:
    @Suburban_elk_15

    Thank you for all that info. Was not aware that male circumcision led to that much loss. I have always found it strange that FGM is made so much of but “MGM” is hardly mentioned or detested . Of course anything said against MGM goes into anti-antisemitism so why it must be a taboo subject, and that is without going to the true weirdness/child molestation of Mohels , which would really be anti-Semitic.
    But anyway your posting and something that has been ‘irking ” me for a while, they talk of what these girls/women lose , But what do circumcised men lose? Being Catholic(genuine pre-VatII) i am of course in that mildly chopped-ff boat. i wonder what I missed. But it goes back to , if you never had something , you don’t miss it , I guess. Even these girls mutilated , can still have vaginal orgasms as well so to speak.

    Regards

  122. @Suburban_elk_15

    Suggestions:

    (1) Move out of your mother basement (2) Remove nose rings and other hardware. (3) Take a shower and shave. (4) Get a damned job -any job. (5) Correspond and associate with straight males. (6) Discuss your sex hang-ups with a good female psychiatrist. Good luck.

  123. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    ROTFL, how would you know? Beyond worst parts of Africa, how many adults consent to cutting? Compare that number with those for other gratuitous, somewhat painful, and long-lasting choices, such as piercings, or tattoos. Can you even guess why we like it complete?

    I mean, will you ever be able to admit your mum collaborated in mutilating you? Pretty much Central Africa level.

  124. Anon[212] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @James N. Kennett

    Because the fratboys have things the feminists want – status, money, and (when they find employment) power.

    How come Jewish frats have not been targeted?

    Before #MeToo, even powerful Jews in media and Hollywood were untouchable. If anything, the very Jews who were sexually harassing women were supporting feminists who almost always fixated on ‘aryan’ rapists.

  125. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    I am curious as to the source of that hideous photo.

    Play with the URL of the photograph and it leads you to this site:

    Goodbye, America (in a photo) | The decline is in the details
    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  126. @Haxo Angmark

    Well FD, who the fuck is listening? No on. That’s who. Why? Because our media is controlled by the tribes who are intent on emasculating not only the white male, but our black brothers too. It’s time to take them down.

  127. Jay Fink says:
    @follyofwar

    American women were still appealing when that song was a hit…unlike today.

  128. Che Guava says:
    @Anon

    Thank you.

    Sometimes I forget that there is no uploading here, since I never use pic. links.

    I was following the link, it still is not telling me where the five horrid beasts were (or are).

    Somewhere in the U.S.A., I would suppose.

    I see less extreme but similar examples near my main workplace at times (on the dull side across a main road from a very popular tourist area), when I go to the touristy area after work, sometimes see what look like the same types, but they seem to like to pose as a little more demure in Japan.

    Can still see the ugly tattoos and ugly personal characters, but they try to pretend.

    The vast majority of the tourists are Chinese (generally thoughtless and pushy, but not much more than many Tokyoites.)

    • Replies: @Rurik
  129. @Achmed E. Newman

    How old are you? North Face is what all the cool kids wear.

    Im so old I still have Carhartt labels on my outerwear and get confused when I see hipsters wearing the brand. Or maybe I’m just a Detrioter.

  130. @Truth

    I just got done telling y’all.

    Think Abbott and Costello.

  131. Logan says:
    @marylou

    Here’s a clip from Jordan Peterson about the five main personality types appearing in female pornography. One of them is billionaire.

    50 Shades of Grey, the fastest selling novel in history, has a billionaire as the “hero.” I use the term loosely.

  132. Logan says:
    @Carroll Price

    Marxism is merely one branch on the socialist tree, albeit a very large and historically important branch. And socialism is not the only tree in the leftist forest.

    100 years ago anarchism was a strong leftist competitor to Marxism and even socialism. This has for some odd reason been almost entirely forgotten.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @dfordoom
  133. Che Guava says:

    It is only a shame that that nobody has posted an image merge of fat-pig Dworkin (not her real name, of course), and Fred. I am having to sleep and not having time later. Anybody who is doing it is getting a thousand Internet points, for good reputation.

  134. Che Guava says:
    @Logan

    You are forgetting reality.

  135. Rurik says:
    @Che Guava

    I was following the link, it still is not telling me where the five horrid beasts were (or are).

    Hey Che,

    I don’t that either, but something very tragic is going on. They’re turning young women into abominations of barely human form.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  136. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Logan

    Marxism is merely one branch on the socialist tree, albeit a very large and historically important branch. And socialism is not the only tree in the leftist forest.

    It’s worth remembering that socialism existed before Marx.

    • Replies: @Logan
  137. Logan says:
    @dfordoom

    Quite right.

    I do get tired of the notion that all socialism is Marxist.

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