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A tribulation of following the news is the desperate peddling—it would appall an Amway salesman– of diversity, said to be our strength. Oh? Exactly why it is our strength is never specified. It seems to have brought no benefit beyond crime, rape, and genital mutilation. While the desirability of these advances is beyond dispute, it nonetheless seems to me that diversity has minor drawbacks worthy of consideration.

So, brothels and cisterns, let us look at some of the resplendent marvels of diversity, and the onward march of human betterment and happiness attendant thereunto. What have been the relations between:

In Germany, Germans and Moslems. In Canada, Frogs, Anglos, and Indians. In the US, blacks, whites, browns, and Moslems. In Sri Lanka, Tamils and Sinhalese. In Sweden, Swedes and Moslems. In Ireland, Prots and Catholics. In Rwanda, Hutus and Tutsis, or maybe Tutus and Hutsis. In India, Hindus and Moslems among others. In Israel, Jews and Arabs. In France, French and Moslems. In Sudan, Moslems and Christians. In South Africa, Xhosa, Bantus, and whites. In Iraq and elsewhere, Shias and Sunnis. In Xian Jiang, Chinese and Moslems. In Spain, Basques, Catalans, and the rest. In Germany, Jews and Germans. In Turkey, Turks and Armenians and Kurds. In ISIS-land, Moslems and Christians, Sunnis and Shias. In Indonesia, Indonesians and Chinese. In Holland, Dtuch and Moslems.

Most of these happy proximities have produced bloodbaths, actual genocide or attempts at it, forced migration as when Uganda threw out its Indians, mass butchery by machete as in Rwanda, repeated bombings in London, and such like exuberances. Other disasters are still only in the simmering stage. Americans are among those being simmered.

From which one might conclude that diversity is the principal cause of human unhappiness, mightn’t one?

In America the pattern holds. We are seeing serious and increasing racial attacks by blacks on whites and the looting of shopping malls that has now become traditional, like picnics on the Fourth of July: hunting and gathering. The importation of Moslems is reaching the point at which they can become the grave and irremediable problem that they are everywhere else. The growing Hispanic population causes friction, particularly in the Southwest and provokes cries for expulsion.

Lay the blame where you will: on white racists, black racists, racists of whatever color, on God or genes or sunspots. But reflect, though, on how very much of the trouble reported daily in the news arises from diversity. For example, achievement gaps, suspension rates in schools, rapes, honor killings, shootings by police, shootings of blacks by blacks, complaints of discrimination, interracial gang-beatings, affirmative action, mass demonstrations, actual terrorism, shootings of cops, demands for censoring of books and the removal of statues and the renaming of highways. Diversity is by a wide margin the worst nightmare facing the US.

All of which would suggest even to the birds of the air, the kine of the fields, to box turtles and retarded marmosets and the alert among the great apes that diversity is a terrible idea. Mix different kinds of people and you get trouble. In politics, diversity also grates. Those most afflicted by the twin scourges of liberalism and conservatism despise each other and do not willingly associate. Feminists and men, city slickers and rednecks, dogs and cats—all hate each other. So what should America’s response be?

Isn’t it obvious?

Yes! It’s so clear! We should import more weird, backward, dull-witted, useless, and inassimilable civilizational disasters, many of which have produced nothing more technologically challenging than the pointed stick. What could be a better idea?

And once we’ve got them, there’s no getting rid of them.

It is currently considered good manners to regard all cultures as equally meritorious, but let us see this idea as what it is—perhaps good manners, but political idiocy. Suppose that Jimmy Joe McWhilliker in Lost Hope, Tennessee genitally mutilated his daughters, refused to let them go to school, forced them to wear funny black bags, didn’t let them go out alone, made them marry smelly elderly Pakistanis against their will, and killed them if they weren’t virgins. That’s equal? To what?

But that’s what we are importing, boys and girls. And if you don’t think this thirteenth-century nightmarish subhuminism is just peachy, why…you are…Islamophobic!

As any decent person would be.

But here we come to the heart of the matter—fairly tales. The foundation of American political thinking, if that is quite the word, is that we should all love one another and therefore do, when in fact all of us don’t, and those who say we should carefully avoid those who they think the rest of us should love.

(Simple declarative sentences are the soul of good writing.)

It might be a good idea for us to use such minor rational capacity as we have to avoid doing stupid things that will have a heavy price. The world is what it is, not what we want it to be. Mixing even civilized peoples is not a good idea. Put thirty million Japanese in America, or Americans in Japan, and trouble will result. This, even though the Japanese are an advanced and well-behaved people, and Americans are reasonably close. But Somalis, for God’s sake? Syrians?

The human animal is hard-wired to be hostile to other groups, to strangers, to intruders. It is the dog-pack instinct. This limbic paranoia manifests itself all through life. If a Russian recon plane comes near the United States, the Air Force frantically scrambles fighters to go intercept it, though the likelihood that Russia would send an ancient prop-job to attack the US is zero. When a strange dog passes in front of our house, our three mutts dash to the front fence to bark in witless territorial fury. They lack the hands to be pilots, though.

ORDER IT NOW

When people have no cause for conflict, they invent it. For this we have football teams in which armored felons having no connection to us attack somebody else’s felons—and we become deeply involved emotionally. In the cities street gangs, often though not always of different races, fight for territory as idiotically as countries. Always it is us and them, and we can always find thems. Movies are largely about forces of good—us—against forces of bad—them.

Diversity? Spare me.

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. deport them all i say.

    • Replies: @gustafus
  2. In America the pattern holds. We are seeing serious and increasing racial attacks by blacks on whites and the looting of shopping malls that has now become traditional, like picnics on the Fourth of July: hunting and gathering.

    571 black on white subway slashings in NYC this year and no racial hate crime discrimination there. On another note, Chicago is on pace for 700 murders this year, having 93 murders already less than 2 months into the year.

    Isn’t di(e)versity grand?

  3. Maybe the libs want to import muzzies to make the blacks look good by comparison.
    OR
    Maybe we’ll settle them in heavily black communities and kill them off in small groups.
    Our non-stop wars on their lands haven’t worked out so well.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  4. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    Let me see….

    Africans and Muslims ignore, violate, and spit on all borders, rules, and agreements as they trample into Europe.
    And Mexicans ignore and violate all laws as they trample into the US.
    They have no use for Rule of Law. They piss and shi* on it.

    But, EU and US have Laws(backed by Rule of Law) that say they must process and protect all these law breakers, invaders, and marauders.

    When Rule of Law favors the lawless, it’s only a matter of time before civilization collapses.

    It is true that white men conquered much of the world. But they conquered worlds without rule of law — a world of ‘childish savages’ — and created societies governed by Rule of Law.

    In contrast, third world folks cannot even sustain rule of law in their own worlds. And they violate the laws of other nations.

    But EU and US now have laws that, instead of defending borders and the Rule of Law, favor the lawless over the lawful.

    This happens not only with masses of third world invaders but with globalist financial-and-media crooks who cook up ‘truth’ as they see fit to gain control of the world.

  5. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    It will end in horror.

  6. @RaceRealist88

    Chicago is a disaster. It should be walled off; massive amounts of weapons and ammo should then be airdropped in by the pallet funded by Uncle Sam.

    Let the chaos ensue. If that is how they prefer to live, it should be facilitated by the taxpayer the same way we feed and house the wild animals.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @dc.sunsets
  7. Arthur Schopenhauer wrote in one of his essays that what impresses us most forcibly about an unfamiliar face is the hideousness of it. I forget now what point Schopenhauer was trying to make with this observation, but at any rate it is a common experience that we find the faces of strangers to be grotesque and subhuman.

    Additionally, here is an experiment along the same lines that anyone can easily try. Do a Google image search for some famous person. It can be anyone you like just as long as they are sufficiently famous that there will be plenty of pictures of them online. Then begin to look through the hundreds and hundreds of images of the same face. Notice how, despite the various emotions and diverse situations in which we see the subject, the underlying bone structure of the face never (of course) alters and something almost annoyingly stable prevails throughout every image. Eventually, looking at the same face over and over again starts to get rather painful, no matter how attractive the person was to begin with.

    Both of these are indications of some deep destiny; and as the wealth of insight to be gained by such studies defies an easy description, I will not attempt one here, tired as I am tonight. But I bear in mind while looking at the photo of the “diverse” faces fronting this essay, that I would be as naturally repulsed by most of them as the like poles of a magnate, and these fundamental facts of life should not be taken lightly.

    • Replies: @neon2
    , @Bliss
  8. In his little Mexican village, Fred is the diversity.

  9. Truth says:

    From which one might conclude that diversity is the principal cause of human unhappiness, mightn’t one?

    In your bedroom, one might conclude it is the principal cause of human happiness. At least on your side of the bed.

  10. Realist says:

    Racial diversity has no positive value whatsoever.

  11. LSWCHP says:

    Your finest ever piece Mr Reed, and you’ve written some damn fine pieces. Chapeau!

    Yesterday as I walked out to lunch I was musing exactly the same things.

  12. Patriot says:

    Virtually every war or conflict in world history was due to some sort of diversity = difference in something.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
  13. Patriot says:

    The origin of the word diversity is the same as that for disaster, difficulty, die, disgust, diabolical, dangerous, and dozens of other negative words.

    Feel free to expand this short list.

  14. Tiny amounts of diversity probably do add something to an overall culture; really good ethnic restaurants are an obvious example, as are some forms of music. But these small advantages of diversity do not scale up and they depend on a dominant culture that maintains a sense of continuity. All that is breaking down in many Western countries with the effects described in Fred’s article.

  15. “Diversity: A Civilizational Nightmare”

    Yeah, but for reasons that might surprise people:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/10/09/liberals/

    Note to Fred; your attempt misses the ‘IQ factor’

  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Attitudes like this is why we must mix all cultures and peoples together so in the end there is just one tribe on this planet. No more Us vs Them crap.
    Then we can finally all work together to realize humanity’s true potential for greatness.

    It’s either that or genetic modification to remove caveman crap from our DNA.

  17. @RaceRealist88

    “571 black on white subway slashings in NYC this year” is this an actual number? are there any sources for this?

  18. “In Rwanda, Hutus and Tutsis, or maybe Tutus and Hutsis”
    in 90ties it was cool to joke about the Rwanda war by ridiculing those african tribe names, and saying “the Hutus killed the Tutsis, or the Tutsis the Hutus, can´t tell them apart”.
    In recent years I have gotten the impression that this depiction hides important aspects of the war in Rwanda. The killing was not arbitrary, it was not everybody killing everybody, no it was Hutus killing Tutsis. And put in the broader context of contemporary world history after WWII I think it is no coincidence that is was basically pure Bantus killing Bantus with significant east African genetic influences, that it was the sturdy looking Hutus killing the more gracile looking Tutsis , that it was the economical poorer people killing the more well off, that it was the presumed as more intelligent people getting killed.
    Apart from that this whole line of “can’t tell them apart” stands in tradition of one of the most relevant case studies of modern antiracism. Modern antiracism loved the Hutus / Tutsis conflict because it seemed to support their alleged intellectual, humanities-orientated, postmodern, postcolonial “anti-biologist” world-view. Their theory was that Hutus and Tutsis were actually the same, but colonial classifications of the Belgians created artificial boundaries and in the end conflict and violence. This world view was quite strong until there were actual genetic studies which showed that Hutus and Tutsis are not the same, and that the folk-tales of a more east-african origin of Tutsis were much likely right. The world view if course still strong, as many antiracists are scientifically illiterate and innumerate.
    Last but not least the whole thing shows that many antiracists think that reading dull-witted articles is all one needs to lean about the world. Anybody who looks at actual photos sees that Hutus and Tutsis on average do not look the same

    • Replies: @anonymous
  19. @Patriot

    (also @my own comment from 10:28)
    the problem is that humans like being in a team against another team. without immigration people would find other things which puts them apart. When Europe had its 30 years war there were no non-european immigrants in Europe.

    • Agree: Bliss
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @TWS
    , @Ace
  20. @Anonymous

    Assuming that you’re not a troll I much prefer Alexander Solzhenitsyn: Nations are the wealth of mankind.

  21. @Erik Sieven

    No. It’s not 571. It’s 567, I remembered wrong.

    http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2016/02/567-slashing-attacks-in-nyc-have-no.html?m=1

    They show “no racial bias”. Ha. They can’t be serious.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    , @Olorin
  22. Bliss says:

    diversity is the principal cause of human unhappiness…..diversity is a terrible idea…….Diversity? Spare me.

    This is so hilarious coming from the hypocrite Fred Reed whose magnum opus is very happily called A Brass Pole in Bangkok: A Thing I Aspire to Be. The hypocrite who ran away from the lack of diversity in the whitopia of Appalachia to hang out in sleazy strip clubs in Thailand; who escaped to highly diverse Mexico and married a mixed-race mestiza….

    And amazingly, despite all his traveling and reading this foolish (yet highly pretentious) old fart never realized that diversity is an unavoidable fact of life…..including within a family.

    Btw Fred, fuggedabout the hutus and tutsis; that does not hold a candle to the the barbaric slaughter of germans vs slavs, or european catholics vs european protestants, or romans vs gauls. Etc, etc

    • Replies: @scanfish
    , @nickels
    , @Druid
  23. Blobby5 says:

    Sounding more like Derb every day!

  24. @Anonymous

    Why would you risk polluting the gene pool of those; Whites, who created modern civilization with that of people who have yet to develop writing?

    • Agree: nickels
    • Replies: @annamaria
  25. Rehmat says:

    YES – Diversity is no “strength” to western civilization as it allow non-White folks to enjoy sex with White whores in Berlin, Paris, Tel Aviv, London, etc. brothels. Oops! White bigots like Reed would like me to believe that prostitution, sex slavery, pornography, etc. were all brought into the so-called “civilized West” by the African, Muslims, Chinese, Hindu, etc. immigrants.

    Let me remind these bigots that the two recent British mass rapists, Lord Janner (Jewish) and Sir Savile (Catholic) were Whites. The first raped dozen of White orphan children at a foster house, while the later raped nearly 400 young boys during his 25 years at the BBC.

    In 2014, British comedian, columnist, actor, author and human rights activist, Alexei David Sayle, has fiercely condemned unprovoked Israeli bloodshed in Gaza, by comparing the Zionist regime’s behavior to that of prolific sex offender Sir Jimmy Savile.

    “Israel is the Jimmy Savile of nation states. It clearly doesn’t care about damaging the lives of children,” Sayle said during an interview with the Council for Arab-British Understanding (Caabu). Read up to date report on Israeli crimes in Gaza Strip.”

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/07/29/jew-comedian-israel-is-jimmy-savile-of-nation-states/

  26. nickels says:
    @Anonymous

    It is likely that the resulting peoples of your experiment would be unable to maintain a civilization.

  27. @Erik Sieven

    571 black on white subway slashings in NYC this year” is this an actual number? are there any sources for this?

    Omit the “black/white” and google it. It’s very well known and documented. But *never* acknowledged as “black on white crime.” Never. To find the racial angle, you have to look at individual cases where victim and slasher are photographed. You’ll see many pretty white (or white looking) women and exclusively African slashers. It’s a race war. Unacknowledged by the media of course.

  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I was a child in Singapore, when Fred was a soldier, attended state schools, it is interesting how the Malay population has fallen since then.

    Only because they receive strong ‘affirmative action’ in Malaysia.

    I could go on in much more detail on that, but this also a test of whether I can post with this user name, which I started using in other places more than ten years ago.

  29. @RaceRealist88

    Chicago isn’t diversity. Chicago is race-pure, DC is race-pure. Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, all race-pure Black-on-Black violence. The racial purity of Blacks living together in…what is it Blacks live with each other in again?- oh yeah, shoot-em-up you-dissed-my sister murder and mayhem. No diversity in a ghetto. The Whites are driven away, murdered and robbed. And then the Blacks set upon one another. Not terribly different from Muslims or the old Negro imports France used to sell to Southern farmers of the Confederate entity. When the Americans leave, they murder each other. With Islam, as with the Blacks in the cities, I wonder why exactly, we Whites don’t back off, watch and wait for the inevitable slaughter of Blacks and Muslims by each OTHER. Anyone that doubts their inferiority is delusional, or hasn’t sampled their benevolence yet. Liberals, after all, are merely White poeple that haven’t been robbed, raped or knocked out by a Black yet.

    They ARE the lower order. Let them kill each other. With each Black and Muslim male killed, another 20 of his kind unborn. THIS is progress, not the diversity of mixing Black, White, Yellow and Brown. Muslims and the African-male of whatever stripe, the real problem…

    • Replies: @Threecranes
    , @Unz Reader
  30. @Rehmat

    Said the Afghan cave-dweller, to his goat.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  31. Hunsdon says:
    @Anonymous

    Remove caveman crap from our DNA? Are you always so cavalier about genocide?

    • Replies: @OmegaTou
  32. @Diversity Heretic

    Diverse food selection gets cited a lot in libfart social progs and Millennials as benefits to society, too. Ethnic products like food and music are like spices on the main meal. Complimentary, but almost never necessary. Too much spice, you wonder what mess of a dish is being covered up.

  33. @RaceRealist88

    thanks for the link. another gruesome story indeed

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  34. Qasim says:

    Methinks a big chunk of your over-the-top Moslem animus has to do with the fact that if “smelly old Pakistani” men cover up their women and don’t let them have sex outside marriage, then you never get a chance to bang one.

    A proper third-world culture is one like Southeast Asia, where civilized gringos like yourself can get hammered and laid in strip joints and brothels to your heart’s content, or Mexico, where you can marry one of the natives after one’s wild oats are sufficiently sowed.

    One hopes this article gets translated into Spanish, is circulated among the locals in your town, and they deal with their civilizational nightmare accordingly.

  35. Biff says:

    Nice satire, and a smorgasbord for the trolls.

  36. A lot of the comments about who is worse or better are ignoring the reality of one of the greatest problems with “diversity”.

    In any human population there will be a percentage of outlaws or anti-socials (that this percentage may vary is not the topic). Dealing with these outlaws is a problem that any culture must solve and the problem is exacerbated by crowding and the complexity of the population. Dealing with these outlaws is a difficult, unpleasant, and imprecise process even in a culture without diversity.

    When populations are diverse the process can become impossible, as one ethny will defend its outlaws against another and, vice-versa, aggressively pursue another’s outlaws with less regard for finer points of law or custom. That Justice is blind is an unobtainable ideal held up to strengthen enforcement, not a reality.

    A civilization or nation that cannot deal with outlaws will perish.

  37. scanfish says:
    @Bliss

    …or uninvited white men crossing an ocean on wooden boats, at risk to their own lives, just to impose anglo saxon diversity Fred style on millions of native indians with basketfuls of blankets infected with smallpox; or on millions of dead vietnamese who refused to understand the enlightened diversity of imposed US white man’s democracy. The self righteous ignorant stupidity of morons like Fred is nauseating. It is a manifestation of the innate selfishness, greed and exploitative malevolent avarice of white ‘civilisation’, the psychopathic need to be in control of the world and its resources, and to be No 1.

  38. @Jim Christian

    “Progressive” in the sixties meant a white person who supported the notion of achieving equality by bringing “them” up to the levels of whites.

    Now, perhaps somewhat more cynically, “progress” means equality achieved through lowering all standards to those of the weakest link, the blacks.

    More cynically because it means that though liberal progressives have in deed given up on the notion of blacks rising to equal status with whites, they still, through doublethink and crimespeak act as though their position hasn’t changed.

  39. Diversity + proximity + critical theory = pack your belongings and leave.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  40. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Erik Sieven

    The Thirty Years War was directly caused by diversity. It wasn’t racial diversity, but religious diversity that caused the problem here. Roman Catholics and Lutherans in Germany had come to an uneasy peace, but then Calvinism arose and poisoned the well. The resulting conflict sucked every European nation into a war of proxies at one time or another.

    • Replies: @nickels
  41. annamaria says:
    @boogerbently

    Please be fair to the main users of the illegals – the large corporations that have been in need of the cheap and docile labor. This is why St. Ronny gave amnesty to the millions of illegals: to make a courtesy gesture to his base of “the haves.” Is not it fantastic that the hundreds of billions of US dollars channeled to Homeland security did not realize into the effective US border protection and employment control?

  42. Biff says:

    Some people call this, the greatest nation on earth.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=473_1456440978

  43. TWS says:
    @Erik Sieven

    You really should have read about the causes. It was religious diversity. The only true heresy to sustain itself to this day and bigger than the split between Orthodox and Catholic. It made neighbors enemies and people whose parents were good Catholics flirt with the Muslim invaders.

    Luther shattered Europe and we’re still paying for it.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
  44. annamaria says:
    @Bill Jones

    “…polluting the gene pool…”

    “Western civilization roots may be traced back to 9000 BCE, when humans existing in hunter-gatherer societies began to settle around the headwaters of the Euphrates, Tigris and Jordan Rivers, spreading outwards into and across Europe; in this sense, the West produced the world’s first cities, states, and empires.”
    “From around 3500 BC, the Mesopotamian people began to attempt to record some observations of the world with numerical data… A concrete instance of Pythagoras’ law was recorded, as early as the 18th century BC… Babylonian astronomy was “the first and highly successful attempt at giving a refined mathematical description of astronomical phenomena.”
    “Early medical traditions include those of Babylon, China, Egypt and India. The Greeks went further, introducing the concepts of medical diagnosis, prognosis, and advanced medical ethics.”
    “The ziggurat at Ur was built under Ur-Nammu (c.2100 B.C.) and rebuilt under Nabonidus (555-539 B.C.) when it was increased in height to probably seven stories.”

    wikipedia

  45. nickels says:
    @Anonymous

    Funny. The Pragmatic movement in America created the John Dewey and his melioration, which, when combined with the post Marxist Critical Theorist morphed into Political Correctness.

    Pragmatism was highly derivative from Calvinism.

    History Rhymes.

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  47. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    Liberalism is about individuals actualizing themselves fully in arts, academics, intellectualism, business, expression, and etc. So, it’s hyper-competitive. It’s about handing out awards in endless competitions like in Ancient Greece.

    As such, Liberalism is elitist, and elitism can be race-ist because the races are different and there will be group differences in achievement.
    If we allow elitist meritocracy and hyper-competition in football and basketball, blacks will dominate the upper echelons. There is hardly any diversity in elite sports in US.
    But this is also true of business, science, academia, and etc. Since Jews are so smart, they are way over-represented when compared to blacks, Hispanics, and Scot-Irish hillbillies.
    And Asians dominate in academics but not much else.

    And look at Hollywood. Very competitive, and the result of competition is always hierarchy, with winners and losers. And look at the arts. Only very few win. Few artists make millions, most make peanuts or not even that.

    Liberalism calls for opportunity and individual actualization. So, each person is supposed to try to the best. So, those with talent and/or cunning rise to top, others fall behind. Anytime you have freedom + individualism + competition, the result is elitism and expanding hierarchy.

    But Liberalism get tagged with egalitarianism due to a fallacy. This fallacy is as follows: because liberalism believes in equal opportunity for success to all, everyone should equally succeed. Or, even if most Liberals reject such notion as too naive and simplistic, they believe that all groups should succeed in proportional terms. So, even if not all blacks go to elite schools, black share of students at elite schools should be proportional to their overall population.
    This would be true IF blacks had equal IQ and same cultural values as the rest. But not so. Reality is race-ist. Races do exist and racial differences exist.

    For instance, suppose someone says, “due to racial factors, it’s very unlikely for Mexicans, East Asians, and Hindus to become dominant in sprinting competition in track.” Is such a remark ‘racist’ because it assumes racial factors come into play in athletic achievement? If such a remark is ‘racist’, then race-ism is truth. We should defend race-ism since it speaks the truth about race and racial differences. It is biological or racial factors that favor blacks over others in sports.
    Now, if it’s true that racial factors prevent Mexicans, Asians, and Hindus from reaching elite levels in track and field, then it is also true racial factors could account for black underachievement in academia. It could be that blacks are less intelligent.

    However, I don’t think black failure in academics is merely a matter of intelligence. I think even smart blacks have a harder time with reason and truth cuz of their natural personalities. Blacks evolved in a world where Truth was determined more by volume than value. What was deemed TRUE was a more matter of grabbing attention by cussing, fussing, jiving, and stayin-aliving than using reason and logic to prove oneself correct to others. For blacks, flair play trumps fair play. Just look at the black style of debating. It’s not about cold logic but about black magic. The ‘act’ matters more than what is being said. Historically, it’s true that white discrimination didn’t offer fair play to blacks. But whites were pretty capable of using fair play among themselves at least. Blacks are incapable of fair play even among themselves. They are all about flair, which is why someone like Marion Barry got re-elected in DC.

    It’s like this. Suppose you go to a bunch of white folks.
    One white guy says 2 + 2 = 4 in a bland boring manner.
    Another white guy says 2 + 2 = 5 in a fun, colorful, vibrant manner.

    Now, white folks will surely find the latter white guy more entertaining, but they will still say the boring guy is right because, if you think about it and use proper math, 2 + 2 does indeed equal 4.

    But suppose we have a black community.
    Suppose one boring bland black guy demonstrates how 2 + 2 = 4.
    And another black guy, who is jivey and funky, shakes his booty and hollers and yaps to demonstrate that sheeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiit, 2 + 2 = 5, flip flap yibbity dap.
    Most black people will be laughing and hollering and agree with the crazyass dude who done showed that 2 + 2 = 5. Logic doesn’t matter. What matters is the show, the spectacle. Blacks have a harder time telling fact from funkery. Consider the black debating style. It’s about being raucous, not rational.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W77qa48MWDg

    Just look at Black Lives Matter. Look at it coldly, and it’s nonsense, as Jared Taylor demonstrated.

    But with blacks, logic and facts are secondary. What matters most is sheeeeeeeeeiiiiit, it be one fun great circus act with lots of noise, volume, and crazy mofo stuff.
    Of course, Jewish/white/Asian Liberals know that black culture is crazy and childish. But their combination of historical sympathy(due to past discrimination), fear(loud blacks with muscle scare them half to death), and amusement(you gotta admit black hysterics are pretty entertaining) have a rather condescending view of blacks.
    They figure, “Look, they are a bunch of children, so let’s just play along and pretend Tahenisi Coates is a genius, Oprah is god, Obama is the greatest man of all time, and rap music(that yaps about killing other negroes and using women as bitchass ho’s) is prophecy and moral truth.” What would never apply to OTHER races apply to blacks. Just keep them happy with candy.

    Of course, Liberals will say that my views are ‘racist’, and I would agree(in the sense of race + ism = belief in existence of races and racial differences). I do believe races are different and these differences account for much of social reality. But the thing is even Liberals are ‘racist’ because, despite all the egalitarian crap that spew from their lips, their attitude toward blacks is as if blacks are crazy dumb children incapable of understanding logic and fact.
    I mean, the numerous cases of white Libs handing awards to crazy rapping college debaters is one of sheer condescension. It’s a way of saying, “these blacks will never win with logic or reason, so let them win with volume and funkery.”

    Why is black nature like this? Blacks evolved in hot Africa with lots of diseases and dangerous animals that were chasing Negroes up the tree, not least because Negroes were chucking spears at them to have lunch. And in this wild crazy place, evolution favored those Negroes who could gain attention with dance, jivery, shuckery, and chuckery(with the spear).

    In a wild warrior-hunter society in hot clime with lots of dangerous animals, one had to show that one is badass all the time to kick some butt and bring down a hippo(when not running from it) or buffalo to feed the tribe. So, the colorful act mattered more than the cold fact. Proper use of reason mattered less than a lot of ugabuga antics to demonstrate that YOU were the badassest mofo there be.
    As such, even smart blacks tend to have personalities that favor funk over facts. And their warrior-gene mentality tends to make them less reflective and self-critical.
    Black morality is warrior-morality or thug-morality. It’s always about attacking others, chucking moral spears at others, always accusing and raiding others, etc. It’s never about “WE negroes have failed, WE negroes need to be honest, WE negroes need to shut up and think honestly for a change.” So, even though most blacks are killed by other crazy blacks, black community is up in arms about few blacks killed by white cops. As for black robberies, rapes, and murders of non-blacks? What do blacks care? They lack self-reflection and self-criticism.

    If you want to see classic Liberal condescension toward blacks, consider this video:

    A stupid black teen girl won’t behave, so the cop does the ‘nay nay’ with her.
    If the cop acted like that with ANY OTHER race, she would have been called stupid and irresponsible.
    But she is lauded for acting that way with a negress since it’s assumed that blacks are not good with logic or reason. Even the idea of ‘justice’ is about butt-shaking and funky-antics with blacks. It’s like whites should deal with blacks like we deal with animals. Try to ‘understand’ their emotions and calm them down with ugabuga stuff.

    Liberals yap about how ‘racism’ is so bad cuz it doesn’t all people in the same way, but the fact is Liberals are ‘racist’ in seeing blacks as so deficient in logic, reason, and sense that they must be treated like animals or children. Do the nay-nay with the black fool.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Wizard of Oz
    , @Talha
  48. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Erik Sieven

    Their theory was that Hutus and Tutsis were actually the same, but colonial classifications of the Belgians created artificial boundaries

    Because Rwandans themselves haven’t really written much of anything people wanting to know about the country have had to rely on things written by foreigners. Thus a westerner who was hardly anything more than a tourist could write a superficial book and be considered an expert. The claim was made that they were all as one in Rwanda until the Belgians started assigning identities to the natives. This shows the automatic liberal assumption that the natives themselves are too dumb to recognize any distinctions until some white person points them out to them. The history between the two groups goes back hundreds of years and certainly predates the arrival of any Belgians who weren’t there all that long to begin with.

  49. Reed: “genitally mutilated his daughters”. What about that other vile Semitic mutilation? The author’s willingness to attack political correctness obviously has its limits. Want to know who your rulers are? They’re the ones you, Mr. Reed, are afraid to criticize.

  50. Olorin says:
    @Anonymous

    Hate to disturb the weather under your bridge, but “caveman crap” in our DNA appears to be precisely what made modern civilization possible.

    No living creature on this planet fails to distinguish between itself and others. Organisms that fail to maintain their integrity, and that of their enabling ecosystems and those who fail to compete, die.

    Death is the only place there is “no more us versus them.”

    But one-world/one-people diversitopians have always had a bad case of thanatophilia, so yours isn’t surprising.

  51. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Son of Dixie

    Actually, the white homicide rate in Chicago is pretty close to zero; just the occasional domestic or crazy killing their mother. Only one homicide so far this year that I can identify with white perps. It’s a black thing mostly with Hispanics a distant second. Just stay out of the ghetto areas.

  52. @Priss Factor

    But EU and US now have laws that, instead of defending borders and the Rule of Law, favor the lawless over the lawful.

    In the UK we see story after story about citizens who upon defending themselves from violent criminals are then arrested and prosecuted more actively than their assailant, for the “crime” of defending themselves.

    Honestly, I wonder if WW2 simply killed off all the UK and European males who had any testosterone. The US keeps trying to pull off this crap, but so far the counter-trend (of middle class whites obtaining concealed carry permits and walking around with loaded handguns) is stronger.

  53. @Son of Dixie

    Escape from New York, to be inducted into the documentary Hall of Fame right behind Idiocracy.

  54. Olorin says:
    @scanfish

    “basketfuls of blankets infected with smallpox”

    Let me guess. Is it you, Ward Churchill’s latest squeeze?

    I’ll make you a deal. You give up the internet, painless modern dentistry/surgery, antibiotics, anything delivered or powered or built by fossil fuels, vehicles, plastics, the flush toilet, electricity, and anything other than plant fibers and stone worked by hand…

    …then come back and bitch about “white civilization” and its avarice.

    But you’re right about the white man’s potential for harshing the smug of twerps like yourself: I think anyone who takes advantage of the blessings of white civilization while bashing whites should be culled from it, and culled hard and mean.

  55. @Anonymous

    Then we can finally all work together to realize humanity’s true potential for greatness.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha…..

    Thought experiment: Take the smartest breeds of dogs (e.g., border collies) and cross them with pit bull terriers, basset hounds and shih tzu’s.

    Do this until the litters are all uniform, no culling allowed (because it’s cruel.)

    Try herding sheep with them.

    The world that produced the keyboard you type on, the PC providing the signals to your monitor, the auto you may drive, the airplane in which you may fly, every bit of it arose out of people whose ancestors largely came from Northern Europe and who produced Western Civilization.

    I encourage you to scour history and archaeology to find where, during the prior 5000 years, anyone else produced such minor miracles. It may be hard to grasp, but humans have been around a really long time. Only one set of them hit upon the right combination to break free of the Malthusian trap (for a while.) Without the fruits of Western people laboring in Western Civ, (above a certain threshold of population percentage), a lot of what you take for granted will in all likelihood evaporate, along with a whole heck of a lot of human souls.

  56. @TWS

    but thats what I meant by “people would find other things which puts them apart”

  57. @scanfish

    It is a manifestation of the innate selfishness, greed and exploitative malevolent avarice of white ‘civilisation’, the psychopathic need to be in control of the world and its resources, and to be No 1.

    Better than being No. 2.

    I think the best thing in the world would be to let other parts of the world take care of themselves. End all foreign intervention and all foreign aid. People get the culture and politics they are genetically programmed for, making their problems not MY problems.

    Good fences make for good neighbors, too.

  58. @Erik Sieven

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/24/dramatic-spike-in-nyc-slashing-attacks-frighten-citizens-puzzle-experts.html

    Same report.

    “Are you doing anything different?”

    “Yeah, I’m staying more away from people, and I’m carrying a 45 ACP pistol cocked and ready to go, hidden under my coat, so if someone suddenly pulls out a knife I can shoot the son-of-a-bitch half a dozen times before he gets halfway to me.”

    Sooner or later.

    • Replies: @tommy hobbes
  59. OmegaTou says:
    @Hunsdon

    I’m pretty sure happyclaus means with gene-splicing, not eugenics.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  60. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    So many Jews act badly. So many blacks act badly. So many Homos act badly.

    So, why do they get away with it and keep acting worse and worse?

    Because the hog the Moral Narrative. As long as they get to play ‘sacralized victim groups’ and as long as whites are seen as ‘sick villain groups’, the Jews, blacks, and homos will get away with everything.

    Even though Liberalism is associated with intellectualism and rationalism, it is a quasi-religious movement with sacred cows.

    So, the main goal of the Right must be to reclaim Moral Righteousness.
    The Right can do this by adopting National Humanism and reaching out to lower class whites hurt by globalism, Jewish financial robbery, Jewish-homo-negro cultural pollution, and black crime.

    Negroes have Emmett Till. Jews have Anne Frank. Homos have Matt Shepherd(even though he was killed by drug dealers).

    The Right needs to create its own Sacred Hall of Victimhood. The Eurocaust Memorial.

    White folks need their own Anne Franks and Emmet Tills. There are so many white victims.

    Via victim politics, whites can gain dominance of Moral Narrative.

    Liberalism would be OVER without the Moral Narrative. Feeling holier-than-thou about ‘racism’ is the only thing that gives Liberalism, Jews, and blacks an advantage. Take out that narrative, and the people would realize Jews are thieves, blacks are thugs, and homos are decadents.

    The so-called Lib side is especially vulnerable since it has no innate unity or cohesion. As it’s made up of so many groups — rich Jews, poor blacks, decadent homos, devout Muslims, feminists, pornographers, silly trannies, Mexican dishwashers, Wall Street financiers, vegans, etc — , the ONLY way it can stay together is by focusing their hatred and animus against the THEM group of white conservatives. Without a common enemy to hate, the Liberal side just falls apart.

    In contrast, a white conservative community doesn’t need an enemy to hate to have a sense of unity and togetherness. It has internal cohesion because white conservatives have much in common with one another.
    In contrast, there is no internal cohesion on the Liberal side. It needs an external threat — constant crying of WOLF — to keep the various groups united in fear, rage, and hatred. It’s like the community in THE VILLAGE by Shyamalan. To keep young people in the community, the elders constantly cry ‘wolf’ about some MONSTER out in the woods.

    The great thing about Black Lives Matter is that it’s messing up this cohesion. Blacks got tired of White Liberals crying WOLF too many times and are disrupting white college campuses and white liberal gentrified areas. Of course, blacks themselves cry WOLF about how white ‘racists’ are killing blacks, but when we look at the ACTIONS(than the rhetoric) of BLM, the targets are usually centers of white Liberalism. BLM are not attacking Mormons or raiding Evangelical southern churches. They are clashing with homo paraders, hipster Apple consumers, Proggy college administrators, etc.

    • Replies: @Jay
  61. Tiny Duck says:

    whites must pay for all the ruin they have wreaked on the world

    our time is coming and it will be well deserved

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @nickels
    , @Jeff
  62. DaveE says:

    Protocol 9, A Jewish Super State

    9.6 We might have reason to apprehend a union between the “clear-sighted” force of the GOY kings on their thrones and the “blind” force of the GOY mobs, but we have taken all the needful measure against any such possibility: between the one and the other force we have erected a bulwark in the shape of a MUTUAL TERROR BETWEEN THEM. In this way the blind force of the people remains our support and we, and we only, shall provide them with a leader and, of course, direct them along the road that leads to our goal.

  63. Lots of diversity socially to distract from the absence of diversity governmentally.

    Government is a bad concept and a person should be free to choose how much they can tolerate. Anything else is a form of slavery.

  64. diversity only works if the immigrants learn and adapt the culture of the host country. it 100%, absolutely fails if they retain their own culture and form small communities within the host country. they end up acting like cancer cells.

    I understand the need for a community like that for the first 10-20 years, but not after. like the self repairing healthy body cells.

    • Replies: @OutWest
    , @Wizard of Oz
  65. Clyde says:
    @Priss Factor

    But EU and US now have laws that, instead of defending borders and the Rule of Law, favor the lawless over the lawful.

    Called anarcho-tyranny.
    “Anarcho-Tyranny—Where Multiculturalism Leads” by Sam Francis http://www.vdare.com/articles/anarcho-tyranny-where-multiculturalism-leads

  66. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    Freedom Fallacy. Just because you live in a free society, you assume you are free.
    It’s like believing that just because you stand on soil, you are farmer.

    You ain’t a farmer until you’ve learned how to farm and farmed.

    In a tyranny, you know you are not free.

    In a democracy, you think you are free. In fact, you only have the chance to be free. If you take that chance, you are still not free.

  67. neon2 says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    All your points are true and well argued, but I like your last best.
    My immediate reaction upon taking in those faces was this: I identified with the last and saw some dignity in the first three. As for the rest, away with them.

  68. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    I don’t like bigotry but I also don’t like progotry, aka ‘progressive bigotry’.

    A bigot is someone who is so hostile to outsiders that he fails to see the positive side of other nations, races, cultures, religions, ideologies, and etc. A bigot is so sure that his own kind/side is so true and right that he refuses to see that other groups/peoples may have virtues of their own(and may even be better in some respects). Sadly, bigots are blind to the virtues of others.

    Now, what about the progots? Progot is someone who is so deluded with the cult of ‘inclusion’ and ‘tolerance’ — as well as possibily being filled with self-loathing, e.g. ‘white guilt’ or ‘white privilege’ — that he only sees the good sides of other races/peoples, especially those favored by the Globalist Elites. The favored groups are Jews, homosexuals, and blacks. Off and on, they include Muslims, Mexicans, Asians, etc. but on a contextual or rotating than permanent basis(that is only reserved for Jews, homos, and blacks). A progot is so enraptured by the eternal nobility of Jews, homos, and blacks that he never sees anything wrong or bad about them.
    A progot is as blind to the vices of other groups like a bigot is blind to the virtues of other groups.
    A progot is as blind to the virtues of his own group like a bigot is blind to the vices of his own group.

    There is a sane rational way between bigotry and progrotry.

    One thing for sure, progotry has a way of leading to bigotry. If Political Correctness forces young people to swallow the Baloney that Jews, blacks, homos, and certain other groups are ALWAY WONDERFUL AND NEVER WRONG, many young people will eventually become disillusioned when confronted with realitu. If the only choices are bigotry and progotry, young people might swing from PC progotry to ‘racist’ bigotry.

    But there is a sane way, the middle way. The sane ways acknowledges the good sides of other peoples while also noticing their bad/dark/negative sides. If there is both the bright and dark side to white race, culture, and history, the same goes for all other groups.

    But PC demands that we ONLY notice the good sides of certain favored ‘victim’ or ‘outsider’ groups.

    So, before Fusion bitches about bigotry, it should address the problems of progotry.

  69. OutWest says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Ethnic neighborhoods were American neighborhoods; the ethnic was food, church and grandpa speaking Italian. While there may have been a temporary visitor, I don’t recall the visitors every making a neighborhood. But that was before the time of the salad bowl lack of assimilation.

  70. Diversity, security, democracy. Choose two. Kinda like Singapore

    Credit to someone else that said that.

  71. Art says:

    Diversity — there are only two categories — Jew and Gentile – Jew and everyone else – ask them – know them – ignore them at your own peril!

  72. Ace says:
    @Erik Sieven

    It’s hard to miss the enmity that the people of New Hampshire feel toward Iowans. It’s why Iowans decided to move to a remote part of the country.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  73. Ace says:
    @Anonymous

    Let me guess. You’re a university professor.

  74. Ace says:
    @scanfish

    When you’re through fanning yourself with your hanky, do weigh in on the thirst for diversity, well, non-diversity really on the part of the Muslim invaders of India and the Mediterranean world, the Huns, the Turks, the Mongols, the Comanche, the Iroquois, the Aztecs, and the Bantu.

    Afterwards perhaps you could lose the “uniquely evil white man” obsession of yours. Six months in Tripoli and you’d be begging to be back living in a white country, any white country.

  75. Ace says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Since you haven’t mastered punctuation yet, I’m not too worried about your ability to grasp infantry tactics.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  76. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website
    @Bill Jones

    ROTFL

    Hopefully, they will tattoo their penises and go impotent.

  77. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Diversity is just a code word for anti-white.

  78. “We should import more weird, backward, dull-witted, useless, and inassimilable civilizational disasters, many of which have produced nothing more technologically challenging than the pointed stick. What could be a better idea?”

    Don’t worry, the NYT and gov’t have one upped you on even that idea. How about giving them welfare, free medical care, benefits for having kids, giving those same kids citizenship, privileged status both in polite society and in terms of acceptance to schools, jobs, grants, etc…- all paid for by the US taxpayer.

  79. rhsper says:

    All you racist bags will get your well deserved comeuppance soon enough. It will be gloriously excruciating.

    :D

  80. Truth says:
    @Priss Factor

    Every week your posts get longer…and say less.

  81. @Priss Factor

    I have observed that UR naming and identifying conventions (of commenters) have not remained as Ron expounded them originally so I ask whether this commenter is one and the same as The Priss Factory and, if so, what is to be inferred about the change of ID.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  82. @OmegaTou

    What does eugenics mean to you that you implicitly condemn it? Before it somehow got associated with Nazis every successful family practised eugenics in at least a rough and ready way.

    • Replies: @OmegaTou
  83. utu says:

    Multiculturalism and diversity are homeopathic medications that work against the poison of nationalisms by ingesting the same poison in very diluted form. Homeopathic quantities of Muslims injected into Northern Ireland could make Protestants and Catholics forget about their mutual enmity, in theory. Or in France, UK or Germany similar injections makes the larger populace forget about the Jews, in practice.

  84. @scanfish

    “scanfish” – Han Chinese? Or if not why posing as such? As it happens I wish I could get the rather pathetic young Chinese and Indian chauvinists on Anglophone blogs to join their competent compatriots in Australia and help counter the much more dangerous demographic problem than anything to do with diversity as such. That is the dysgenic breeding of the (white) natives. Typically a couple of 130 IQ professionals will have 1.8 children at average age 34 while the dim sisterhood of IQ < 85 will have 3.5 children at average age 23. Go figure.

    Most of the comments on this thread ignore the important reality and the inadequate snipers from the East don't see that they should take pride in what Jews, post Enlightenment and, later, Indians and East Asians (and some few others) have done and are doing to enhance the Western civilisation which became and remains the world's standard setter.

    • Replies: @Cracker
  85. Bliss says:
    @Ace

    It’s hard to miss the enmity that the people of New Hampshire feel toward Iowans. It’s why Iowans decided to move to a remote part of the country.

    You obviously don’t know that the white Mormons had to move to remote Utah because of the violent, murderous enmity of their nordic brothers who could not tolerate their religious beliefs.

    • Replies: @Ace
  86. @Ace

    Combined with the “Tiny Duck” moniker I think you sussed out one of those young Han inadequates that exhibit their deficiencies of character on Anglophone blogs instead of joining in the great advancement of modern civilisation by clever Indians and East Asians who have picked up the ball of Western civilisation and taken it for an extended run.

    • Replies: @Ace
  87. Bliss says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I bear in mind while looking at the photo of the “diverse” faces fronting this essay, that I would be as naturally repulsed by most of them as the like poles of a magnate, and these fundamental facts of life should not be taken lightly.

    I wonder if Fred’s mexican wife reads his hateful racist rantings here. How the hell can she live with the fact that the old man she married looks at her, her daughter, and others who look like them…..and sees a nightmare?

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @dcite
  88. @Astuteobservor II

    I recall a Jewish academic, a minor adviser to governments and NGOs who defended multiculturalism in the late 1970s as a staging post to full integration (I don’t think he would have said “assimilation” which was by then unfashionable). Its official support would just be to keep people comfortable during the transition. Looking at the way post WW2 Italians and Greeks, often from poor backgrounds, were becoming Australians it sounded plausible as well as, probably, his genuine belief. Of course it hasn’t meant that self-interest has let go of the advantages of running an ethnic lobby but what seems notable about the smart Indians and Chinese since about 1970 is that they don’t need crutches. Nonetheless I would suggest that your estimate of 10-20 years is an underestimate of the time for anything like assimilation – depending obviously on age, command of English and original culture.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  89. Jay says:
    @Anonymous

    Your proposal has actually been carried out in Brasil, a natural experiment as evolutionary ecologists would say. The majority of the population is “Pardo,” a mixture of Portuguese, African and Amerindian. Strangely for your theory Brasil has one of the highest crime rates in the western world. Homicide is frequent and casual. See this article http://www.latimes.com/world/brazil/la-fg-ff-brazil-crime-20150522-story.html

  90. Jay says:
    @Priss Factor

    The archetypic white victims you’re looking for are Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, both far more innocent than Emmett Till.

  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    What Fred didn’t mention of course is the diversity from whites moving in mass to locations like Mexico and Thailand.

    Of course he wouldn’t see this as a problem because when whites immigrate they only spread good things like democracy and feminism.

  92. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Ouch! Are you allowed to say that? I hear the pidder patter of little Pradas as students everywhere are running for safe places. The truth always hurts, but sometimes it’s near fatal! Orwell put it this way, “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

    Hey! Can he say that!?

  93. KenH says:
    @Rehmat

    First off, your self righteous soliloquy about white sex deviants and pornography is a red herring to deflect and distract from the Muslim rape and barbarism we are witnessing in the Western world. Jews, being semitic, are genetically closer to Arabs, so I’ll let those groups defend Lord Janner. Jimmy Savile is alleged by the NSPCC of Britain to have committed 214 sexual acts including 34 penetrations which is a far cry from 400 rapes you claim. But Jimmy Savile would have made a great Muslim!

    Although Jimmy Savile was never brought to justice, white nations generally condemn, prosecute and oftentimes kill (via the death penalty) their sex deviants. Muslim nations turn a blind eye and your pathetic religion even sanctions rape of “kaffir” women as we are seeing in the U.K. Germany and throughout Europe. Consanguineous marriages and pederasty are also quite common throughout the Arab world.

    You muzzies are great at playing the victim card and steadfastly refusing to condemn members of your own backward “religion” for the savage acts of rape and violence they commit in the diaspora.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
    , @Druid
    , @Talha
    , @Anonymous
  94. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    This from someone who calls himself/herself ‘wizard of oz’.

    That sure is rich.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  95. Rehmat says:
    @KenH

    A typical racist Talmudic mindset.

    If a criminal is pro-Israel – he doesn’t represent Judaism or Christianity – but if some Muslims accused of being “terrorists or rapists” they represent 1.7 billion Muslims.

    If one study some objective source, he will find that 13 million Jewish community has more mass murderers and rapists than 1.7 billion Muslims. Not to mention that 1.2 billion Catholic Church has 40% of its Nuns raped by its priests.

    Last year, UK’s chief rabbi Ephraim Mirvis in an address at a rabbinic conference in London condemned rabbis for misusing the Jewish Mesira by not reporting child sex abuse cases to local law enforcement authorities. The conference was attended by 120 rabbis from UK and Australia.

    The conference was result of a recent shocking report into child sex abuse. The study, released by the children’s commissioner, showed as many as 450,000 cases of abuse may have been carried out from April 2012 to March 2014 in Britain.

    Based on UK’s Jewish population of less than 350,000, sexual abuse of minors and spouses is more rampant within Jewish community as compared to Christian majority and other religious minorities, such as, Muslim, Hindus and Sikh….

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/11/25/uk-chief-rabbi-admits-epidemic-child-sexual-abuse/

  96. nickels says:
    @Bliss

    You seem unable to grasp the difference between the personal realization of the subjective vs the societal objectification.

    Hence your comment is a logical void.

    Travelling and experience with various cultures is, in fact, exactly the way to see that diversity within a society is the antithesis of the spiritual growth of a people, it is, in fact, synonymous with its decline.

  97. nickels says:
    @Tiny Duck

    (Not a reply to tiny dik, that is an accident)

    “[society] dies not a simply natural death, for it is not a mere single individual, but a spiritual, generic life; in its case natural death appears to imply destruction through its own agency. The reason of this difference from the single natural individual, is that the spirit of a people exists as a genus, and consequently carries within it its own negation, in the very generality which characterizes it.”
    Hegel, Philosophy of history

    The West, built on Christianity, carries the seed of tolerance to all and justice for all. This very seed is its undoing. The result, and hence the negation of total tolerance is, in fact, as Shigalov notes, utter despotism.

    Diversity is one of the many forms this tolerance takes, where the tribal, savage anti-Christian philosophies of feminism, thug culture, native American primitivism as turned into our highest objects of moral good.

    This is a natural phenenon in the death of a civilization, although, likely, it is brought on prematurely by those who understood Hegel and perverted it first into Marxism, and, its American manifestation, critical theory and multiculturalism.

  98. Bantu is a general category, of which Zulu and Xhosa are a part. Zulu and Xhosa are the main, black rival groups in South Africa.

  99. Cracker says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Indians? The people that throw bodies in a river and wipe their @zz with their hand? Those Indians?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  100. Druid says:
    @Bliss

    Very well said! Hypocrisy reigns in this mindless crap.

  101. Druid says:
    @KenH

    You kidding? You guys are the ultimate in playing the victim card. Your whole history including the Torah is full of BS about you poor victims, when in fact you are the original genociders. Read your Torah. And you guys are the ones to who. Every goy is a potential target to be manipulated, killed, etc., for your gain. Your kind of propaganda is coming to the fore.

    • Replies: @KenH
  102. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website
    @Truth

    white + black = scared honkey

  103. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website
    @Truth

    Truth, you may be on the truth, but so many blacks I’ve met are such sociopathic liars… like this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRGIoM2NCkc

    • Replies: @Truth
  104. Jeff says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Just replace “whites” with “liberals” and you’ll be on to something.

    By the way, have you been diagnosed with something that would explain your short attention span?

  105. Truth says:
    @Priss Factor

    Oh great, some random person I’ve never heard of lied.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  106. Ace says:
    @Bliss

    You obviously don’t know about Joseph Smith’s bodyguard of thugs in Nauvoo and his burning down of a newspaper there that was critical of him. Nor of Smith’s reputation as a con man when he was in New York. His “translation” of the golden plates of the angel Moroni using the seer stone and by looking into his hat might have struck his neighbors as a trifle odd. But maybe that’s just me. (Apologies if I’ve mangled the church history here.)

    Mormon leader Sidney Rigdon wanted a war of extermination in 1838 Missouri though the author of that piece I’ve linked to is honest enough to say that neither Mormons nor non-Mormons were guiltless then. A source I cannot lay my finger on now also recounted how Mormons in w. Missouri had a casual attitude toward the property of non-Mormons. Perhaps this was noticed.

    The bizarre (and ghastly) Mormon doctrine of blood atonement (since abandoned) was pushed by Brigham Young but appears to have a basis in Smith’s own teachings. The Mountain Meadows Massacre, for which church leader Young was probably responsible, and the unfortunate death from time to time of non-Mormons at the hands of “Indians” after leaving Salt Lake, not to mention the abhorrent practice of polygamy, are additional features of early Mormon history that mark it as a bizarre, violent, intolerant, and aggressive faith wildly out of synch with American culture.

    Now the Church is a world class institution for which I have a lot of respect but your view that back when the Mormons’ “Nordic” brothers simply couldn’t tolerate their beliefs [in true Christian bigot fashion?] is not supported by the facts.

  107. Ace says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    After the 10 millionth recitation of “not them, not them, not them” the dreaded question will eventually have to be asked, “So then what?” It’s a question the crazies never want to hear, let alone answer. But, it’s a toughy.

  108. Ace says:
    @Bliss

    A complete and total misreading of Fred’s point. Good one.

  109. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website
    @Truth

    It’s an all-too-common pattern among blacks.

    Ever notice that Nigerians in the West complain about how their own nation is ruined by so many crooks, cheats,and liars.

    Every race has liars and cheats, but because blacks are more brazen, aggressive, and uninhibited, they are more likely to be shameless and aggressive in their lies.

    Take this kid.

    Anyone surprised that he is black?

    http://www.people.com/article/florida-teen-arrested-fake-doctor

    Or this one.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372416/Nigerian-doctor-used-fake-identity-documents-work-British-hospitals-jailed.html

    There are crooks among all races, but blacks are so all out crazy with it.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Truth
  110. @Priss Factor

    If you are the same person as The Priss Factory you are clever to leave a doubt whether it is desperation at being found out that causes you to reply in an illogical irrelevant way to a question about your changeing your pseudonym (pointing to my one and only nom de guerre) or you are pretending to be less clever than The Priss Factory as a kind of double bluff to suggest you can’t be The Priss Factory. I think you are one and the same as The Priss Factory (Andrea ??? ???) but the question remains about Ron’s naming rights.

  111. KenH says:
    @Druid

    I don’t read the Torah because I’m not Jewish. You didn’t read my post very carefully and I’m not sure what in my post led you to conclude that I was. Otherwise I agree that Jews present themselves as victims but have proven to be super predators who have destroyed countless nations and peoples throughout history. But Muslims also play the victim card while they are murdering and raping Europeans with the tacit approval of the Jews who exert control over the EU and European nations.

  112. @Cracker

    My first reference to Indians was to the picture that comes to mind of the attractive young woman doing supervisory work part time while she completes her MBA and sets up a business in partnership with her (Indian) husband who is an engineer – definitely a plus for Australia.

    My second reference I almost paused to qualify by reference to caste…. your point I think.

  113. dcite says:
    @Bliss

    Such a Pavlovian response. People of strong faith have buttons so pushable. Generally Sr. Fred’s over-the-rainbow admiration of his Mexican family seems to annoy people who comment on his epistles.

  114. utu says:
    @Priss Factor

    Kenyans are “experienced in stealing and perpetuating other crimes”, the president has said, during a state visit to Israel.

    Kenyans were also abusers, and promoted tribalism,

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35663018

  115. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    A nation is more than economics.

    But these diversity-lunatics only talk about GDP and growth.

    Just think. Suppose Muslims abandon all violent feelings towards Israel, and suppose Jews and Muslims can live in peace.

    So, should Israel go for open borders and allow any number of Muslims/Arabs/Turks to enter Israel?

    Now, the Israeli GDP might expand and there may be economic growth with all these newcomers/immigrants, but what will happen to Israel as a Jewish nation? It will gradually vanish.

    Is that worth it just for economic growth?

    Should a nation’s race, culture, identity, heritage, and territory be sacrificed on the altar of the almighty dollar?

    Are dollars all that counts? A nation’s worth is to be determined by how many dollars it has than what kind of people and culture it has?

    Jews would of course say NO for Israel. So, why do they push it on all other nations? Jews say Europeans should surrender the racial, cultural, and territorial integrity of Europe If doing so leads to economic growth.

    A production nation, like proposition nation.

    A productive nation is all very well and good, but a nation is more than about economic production. It is about reproduction of its main race and culture.

    • Replies: @anon
  116. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rehmat

    I love how you carefully cherry pick things to serve your agenda. The fact that you are a colored foreigner who CHOOSES to live in the west says more about you then anything else.

    • Replies: @edgeslider
  117. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Agreed. There are higher values then economics.

  118. Truth says:
    @Priss Factor

    Well that’s great Bro, but a sentence or two rather than 13 repetitive paragraphs would suffice.

    E.G.:

    “I hate blacks, they are aggressive, have large cocks, and they are the cause of all of the evil in the world.”

    (Insert random “supportive” link here)

    …Copy and paste next story

    Not that hard.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  119. OmegaTou says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    My comment refers to a specific form of eugenics. I do not have a problem with eugenics when used by individuals. When used by groups, particularly governments, the potential for unethical abuse is very high.

  120. […] HBD against ‘pathological altruism’. The canceled Derb speech. Diversity and its discontents. The case for blind hiring. Ferguson effect. Warped reality. Love is overrated. Only obeying […]

  121. Talha says:
    @KenH

    If I may…

    I wholeheartedly agree with you about the deplorable behavior of many Muslims in their European host countries. They have no justification for their actions and European nations have every right to both condemn and deal with the perpetrators harshly.

    As far as your comment that Islam ‘sanctions rape of “kaffir” women’ – that one is a bit of a stretch (I’m being generous with my terms here). Pakistani grooming gangs in Britain and New Year’s immigrants crowds in Cologne notwithstanding, there is just nothing within the teachings of the religion (traditional Orthodox Sunni) that would sanction this kind of behavior. It is laughable to think these men, who are regularly getting publicly drunk or plying young women with illicit drugs are thinking about Islamic rules in guiding their actions.

    From a factual basis…
    1. A Muslim man is not permitted to look at (and definitely NOT touch) with lust any woman that he has no legal right to; this includes only his wife (or wives – as the case may be). This rule extends to women in general and is irrespective of whether they are covered from head to toe or uncovered or Muslim or not. This is a consensus ruling among the four existing schools of jurisprudence.
    2. Any woman (from any background) is allowed residence within Muslim lands (or allowed to immigrate there) as a covenanted, protected citizen (dhimmi) without any taxation of her person. Irrespective of her status of wealth or poverty or whether alone or not. The covenant extends to protection of her blood, honor and property. This is the rule for the Hanafi and Maliki schools – the only difference being that the Shafi’i and Hanbali schools only extend this to Jewish or Christian women.

    My reference points for these are: ‘Ahkam al-Sultaniyyah’ (Rules of Governance) by the medieval scholar Imam Mawardi (may God illuminate his grave) and ‘Umdat us-Salik’ (Reliance of the Traveller), by the brilliant 14th century scholar Imam Ahmad Misri (may God illuminate his grave). Imam Mawardi is a very useful reference because, though from the position of the Shafi’i school, he references the strongest known positions from the other three schools on any subject IF they contradict the Shafi’i position. Thus any position he states without a counter opinion generally states the consensus opinion within the Sunni Orthodoxy.

    That being the case, if you can find a counter opinion from any reliable Muslim scholar (alive or dead) from any of the existing Orthodox schools of jurisprudence that supports your conclusion (that Islam sanctions rape of non-Muslim women), I would love to be enlightened.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Bliss
  122. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    Does globo-diversity lead to pop cultural homogeneity?

  123. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website
    @Truth

    I is crazier than any negro.

    • Replies: @Truth
  124. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    Jewish power has become God-like.

    Among ancient Jews, the power of God was felt everywhere and God had to be appeased and worshiped at all times.
    BUT you could not depict God in any tangible form — idolatry!! –, and you could not speak His name.
    So God was both everywhere and hidden.

    Today, Jewish power permeates everything and is everywhere. All bow down to it directly or indirectly.

    But we are are not allowed to visualize the nature of this power and we cannot call it by its name: Jewish Supremacism.

    Jews have the Yahweh Complex.

  125. @Wizard of Oz

    10 – 20 years per individual not the community. they join and leave when ready. 10-20 years is more than generous in learning a language and getting back on their feet. the community should last as long as there are immigrants.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  126. @Truth

    Typical liberal form- don’t address a single word someone writes, just insult them.

    • Replies: @Truth
  127. @Astuteobservor II

    Well yes and no. Let’s say you had a group of Greek/Calabrian/Maltese professionals and small businessmen arrive in their late 20s with non-English speaking wives and a couple of children who speak the mother tongue almost exclusively till age 5 (and continue speaking it to mother). You can bet they will be heading for ethnic aged care facilities 60 years later…. Not a problem as I see it in Australia’s actual experience.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Astuteobservor II
  128. KenH says:
    @Talha

    Thanks for providing that information, but it arguably proves little when many Muslim males are clearly ignoring the precepts you cited and/or presumably believe raping or assaulting non-Muslim women is not proscribed by the Koran. There are several verses in the Koran that do appear to sanction rape.

    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam

    But by their fruits ye shall know them, and the wave of sexual assaults on white Australian girls by Lebanese Muslims (about 10 yrs ago), the Rotherham, UK rape scandal, Muslim rapes in Sweden, and finally Cologne, Germany, and other lesser known incidents, I’d say that constitutes a pattern among Muslims. And finally, how about the rapes and sexual slavery of Yazidi and Christian women by ISIS? ISIS, as you are probably aware, believes that they adhere to the only true form of Wahabi Islam and that all other forms are an apostasy. This obviously entails rape and nobody (no non-Muslims) has been granted dhimmi status by ISIS as of this writing….only death by the sword.

    Moreover, I’m not aware of any Imans or Islamic scholars who have forcefully condemned the rapes and sexual assaults on non-Muslims as un-Islamic. In fact, just the opposite from some of the news stories I’ve read over the years. I’ll grant that they may be out there and the media hasn’t granted them equal time, but I’m not aware of any.

    The Western world is home to many Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists yet they aren’t raping Western women or at least not nearly to the degree Muslims are.

    And is there such a thing as a reliable Muslim scholar? It seems interpretation of the Koran is a matter of expediency depending on what a particular Muslim group is trying to accomplish at that point in time.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Talha
  129. Talha says:
    @KenH

    You bring up some very interesting points.

    Unfortunately, most Muslims are very ignorant about Islamic rulings and many of them are not following the basic rules. This is a shame and they are bringing a pox upon themselves and their fellow Muslims (including legitimate war refugees like orphans and widows) and the religion itself. This is a shame and I would certainly agree with you that there seems to be a pattern among these Muslims who seem to form ethnic-gangs in their host countries.

    To your other points:
    1. That article takes one specific issue and then extrapolates a whole set of conclusions based on it. That issue is whether owners of slaves can have sexual relations with them. This was permitted in Islam when slavery was around. This was not unique to Islam; Christians, Jews and anybody else (Greeks, Vikings, etc.) who owned slaves since antiquity were having sex with them. Even proper Southern gentlemen like the erudite Thomas Jefferson were having sex with their slaves. Was all that sex coerced or consensual, I don’t know – I’m certain there was a spectrum. When slavery was around, what was the mentality of a slave? Can anyone guess? We know how we would feel about it, but what if people that were slaves, when slavery was a common institution, just resigned themselves to their lot maybe like a wife who isn’t attracted to her husband any more, but ‘provides services’ because she gains other benefits out of it. I have never come across a reference that states what a slave master’s rights are if a slave refuses the bed – so it is a large question mark. Does Christianity clearly state what is and what is not permissible between a slave and her master? We know what post civil-war Christian American law has to say on the subject, but what about for centuries before that? We know the Bible clearly allowed this (the relationship between our very elderly liege Abraham [peace be upon him], the friend of God, and young lady Hagar [peace be upon her]) and about this, the New Testament seems fairly silent. “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.” (Ephesians 6:5) – does that translate to the bed – why not? What I know for sure are two things: 1) Islam has always, since its beginnings allowed slavery (like the rest of humanity), but clearly encouraged emancipation (my 8 year-old – like most of his friends – has these chapters of the Qur’an memorized) and 2) that the gates of slavery were closed by humanity through the last centuries and thus slavery (and all its aspects) is definitely impermissible now.
    2. Do you seriously take ISIS as an authority on Islamic law? Seriously? Their scholarship is completely sub-par, being an extreme offshoot of an extreme offshoot. Though they would be considered Sunni (after all they are not Shiah for sure), they hardly follow the majority schools of Sunni orthodoxy and have been condemned world-round, even by Wahhabi scholars. The people on the front lines fighting and being killed by them are Muslims. This is an internal civil war. The fact they consider everyone who doesn’t agree with them as apostates (while others who fight them consider them to be renegades or extremists, yet nevertheless Muslims) clearly puts them on the same trajectory as the Khawarij scourge of the past. For a scholarly refutation of their beliefs and actions by a solid traditional Sunni scholar, please see:

    http://www.amazon.com/Refuting-ISIS-Shaykh-Muhammad-Al-Yaqoubi-ebook/dp/B0179WEDJ0/

    3. As far as ‘a reliable Muslim scholar’…sure, Islam does not have a hierarchy like Catholicism but neither is it open to any and all for interpretation. One has to be qualified and recognized by other qualified experts in the field of jurisprudence. This is not a boy scout religion by any means. I have studied Islamic jurisprudence (part-time) for almost a decade at the feet of scholars from only one school of law and I have just recently been able to break into the primary-level text of comparative law from Hanafi school and I’m still at the initial chapters of ritual purity. I know medical doctors who also took years off to study and get their (basic) degree of Islamic law and they attested that it was more difficult than what they had to do in medical school. There are institutions and scholars that give out accreditation, much like in the medical field or the like that allow one to practice. It takes decades to earn that kind of a recognition – especially at the international scale to be able to represent the normative voice in Islam. Are there occasional quacks – sure, it happens in any field. When you see “interpretation of the Koran as a matter of expediency” you know exactly what you are looking at – as you stated – “by their fruits, ye shall know them”.

    May God grant you honor in this world and the next.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @KenH
  130. My comment was with respect to this sentence written by Fred:

    “In South Africa, Xhosa, Bantus, and whites. …”

    However, because Bantu is a general category for the blacks of the region, the sentence should be:

    “In South Africa, Bantus and whites. …”

    OR:

    “In South Africa, Xhosa, Zulu and whites. …”

  131. Talha says:
    @KenH

    And just so you don’t get the wrong impression here; I am in no way defending the deplorable actions of many Muslims (in the West or outside). Their actions are far more abominable in places where they have either been invited to live or allowed residency based on a fair assumption that they would bring a positive benefit to their host nation. In these cases, it is not just a wrong action – in and of itself – but a breach of a covenant as well as the height of ingratitude.

    Being originally from Pakistan myself, I have seen the way some of these ethnic-gangs operate. They have far more in common with inner-city thug culture than traditional Muslim culture. They scare me and I certainly would not let my daughter be anywhere near them.

    • Replies: @KenH
  132. Truth says:
    @Grandpa Jack

    But that’s just it Old Sport;

    I addressed everything he wrote — the first four or five times he wrote it.

  133. Truth says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    ‘Well yes and no. Let’s say you had a group of Greek/Calabrian/Maltese professionals and small businessmen arrive in their late 20s with non-English speaking wives and a couple of children who speak the mother tongue…’

    How about Cablanasian?

  134. Bliss says:
    @Talha

    A Muslim man is not permitted to look at (and definitely NOT touch) with lust any woman that he has no legal right to; this includes only his wife (or wives – as the case may be).

    The shameless liar is back. Surely you know that the Koran says that it is lawful for Muslim men to have sex with their female slaves. And the Koran is the final message of Allah to mankind, yes or no? How dare you deny that? Off with your head apostate…

    Mohammad, the last prophet, himself partook of this Allah-sanctioned pleasure and he is the ultimate role model for Muslims till the Day of Judgment. Yes or no?

    • Replies: @Talha
  135. Talha says:
    @Bliss

    Nothing untrue about what I said. A Muslim man was permitted to have sexual relations with his slave (as was the norm in every other culture and religion) – see my other post – this cannot be denied and is a historical fact. The door to slavery is now closed, universally – ergo, the only valid/legal recourse for a Muslim man is his wife (or wives).

    But, that’s not going to stop the ad hominem attacks now, is it?

    The Prophet (pbuh) both owned slaves and emancipated slaves and encouraged their emancipation – figure that one out. I am not about to rehash basic principles of Islamic jurisprudence or the logic involved in them with you again.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  136. Talha says:
    @Truth

    Thanks – and thanks for the chuckle at post #124.

    May God preserve you and yours.

  137. gwynedd1 says:

    There is no pure race. In fact the concept is already expressed , “race” which implies a competitive progression. What we have is racial continuity. A race wants to progress within the continuity of the past, but also innovate and enrich itself.

    This is why small amounts of immigration and race mixing has always been seen as positive. Its tends to assimilate and enrich, adding to the whole. However mass immigration displaces and distorts. It is analogous to an exotic spice which is a welcome addition to a meal but actually a poison in high doses.

    The human population regulates this very well. It accepts new comers to a point , but at some point this become saturated, and in high numbers hostile.

    So basically I am a racial and cultural libertarian, and I am very much in favour of an evolution of cultural change. However I am very much against state sponsored mass immigration that goes against human instincts that know better.

  138. @Wizard of Oz

    what does how integrated immigrants retire have to do with what I am talking about? If they never learned how to speak english, isn’t what you mentioned the obvious choice? what does that have to do with what I typed? As long as the second generation becomes part of the host country’s population, it is a success. If they all stay together and form ghettos or the like, that is a cancer cell.

    the ideal situation would be for the first generation to move on too after 10 to 20 years. If they don’t have the ability they should not have been accepted as immigrants by the host country in the first place.

  139. Bliss says:
    @Talha

    Nothing untrue about what I said. A Muslim man was permitted to have sexual relations with his slave…… The door to slavery is now closed, universally

    A stupid, shamelessly brazen lie that would get you beheaded by the true believers. There is no time limit to the legality of slavery (and fornication with female slaves) in the Koran. It is valid till the Last Day. The Koran is the Final Message and Mohammad is the Last Prophet. This is a fundamental dogma of Islam.

    The door to slavery was not closed by Allah or his last messenger to mankind. It was closed by western abolitionists inspired by the Enlightenment principle of egalitarianism. The fact that you think their judgement trumps that of Allah and his Last Prophet proves you have rejected Islam and therefore deserve the punishment for apostasy: beheading here and eternal torture hereafter.

    • Replies: @Talha
  140. Talha says:
    @Bliss

    Again with the uncivil conduct…Here is my last response on this subject, which you will likely ignore the merits of, but at this point, this is for others.

    Slavery is not a moral requirement in any of the existing schools of Sunni Orthodoxy. It does remain a legal option when dealing with POWs, however, in the light of a covenant that exists between the Muslim nations (and even the last legitimate Caliphate, Ottoman, which banned the practice), adherence to that covenant legally supersedes an action that is merely permissible – this is a common principle in Islamic jurisprudence. For instance, it is permissible (intrinsically) to chop down trees, but if all the nations of the world were to join hands and say we will not chop down trees until deforestation is checked, that would be a legally binding agreement and unilateral violation of it would be immoral.

    In the words of the sagacious former Grand Mufti of Pakistan, Taqi Usmani (may God preserve him):
    “Here something important should be kept in mind, which is that most of the nations of the world have today formed a pact between them, and have agreed that a prisoner from the captives of war will not be put into slavery, and most of the Islamic lands today are participants of this agreement, particularly the members of the United Nations, so it is not permissible for an Islamic country today to put a captive into slavery as long as this pact remains. As for the question of whether this pact is allowed, I have not seen its ruling explicitly in [the writings of] the early scholars, and it is apparent that it is permissible because taking slaves is not something obligatory, rather it is an option from four options, and the option therein is for the Imam. And it is apparent from the texts on the virtue of emancipation and other [texts] that freedom is more desirable in the Islamic Shari‘ah [than slavery], so there is no harm in making such a pact, so long as other nations conform to it and do not violate it.”

    So how long will the prohibition on slavery last? Well, that is truly in the hands of the non-Muslim nations…as long as they aren’t capturing and enslaving Muslims, Muslims are obligated to uphold their side of the agreement. ISIS doesn’t seem to understand this or holds themselves above fulfilling oaths or covenants.

    A response from you is assuredly coming my way, with its tell-tale invective. I will not respond because, “Homie don’t play that.”

    Peace.

  141. Easterner says:

    Integration is a plot. It fits into the plan. See the overall steps below. How far along the path is civilization? Has each step been completed, or how much progress is made?
    1 The Basic Doctrine
    2 Economic Wars
    3 Methods of Conquest
    4 Materialism Replaces Religion
    5 Despotism and Modern Progress
    6 Take-Over Technique
    7 World-Wide Wars
    8 Provisional Government
    9 Re-Education
    10 Preparing for Power
    11 Totalitarian State
    12 Control of Press
    13 Distractions
    14 Assault on Religion
    15 Ruthless Suppression
    16 Brainwashing
    17 Abuse of Authority
    18 Arrest Opponents
    19 Rulers and People
    20 Financial Programme
    21 Loans and Credit
    22 Power of Gold
    23 Instill Obedience
    24 Qualities of Ruler

  142. KenH says:
    @Talha

    That article takes one specific issue and then extrapolates a whole set of conclusions based on it.

    While not necessarily conclusive regarding Koranic admonitions to rape kafir women, it did indisputably show that the Koran permits sex with slaves, consensual or otherwise. A contemporary Muslim could justify his rape or sexual assault of a European woman by claiming that he is at war (which many Muslims in Europe, UK and Scandinavia seem to be with their gracious hosts) and the female victim his captive or who his right hand possesses. You have condemned the actions of your co-religionists and I applaud you for that, but I have run across stories where local imans refuse to condemn these actions and in fact blame European women for their provocative dress.

    That issue is whether owners of slaves can have sexual relations with them. This was permitted in Islam when slavery was around. This was not unique to Islam; Christians, Jews and anybody else (Greeks, Vikings, etc.) who owned slaves since antiquity were having sex with them. Even proper Southern gentlemen like the erudite Thomas Jefferson were having sex with their slaves.

    Since all peoples practiced slavery at one time or another and undoubtedly had sex with them to some degree, neither side has a right to finger wag on this point. I will note that the Greeks and Vikings and early Christians for that matter, didn’t use religion to justify the act. But slavery in antiquity isn’t germane to the rapes being committed by Muslims today. Europeans and Christians outlawed the practice and even when white Europeans were colonizing the Muslim world they weren’t going crazy and raping women just because they were a vanquished people as the Koran would permit.

    While the New Testament sanctions slavery, it does not sanction sex with slaves like the Koran and admonishes masters to treat their slaves with dignity:

    Colossians 4:1 (NASB) 1Masters, grant to your slaves justice and fairness, knowing that you too have a Master in heaven.[6]

    This passage would discourage forcible rape or sexual slavery to any reasonable person. Does the Koran have anything comparable?

    Now, no doubt some Christian slave masters didn’t live up to this, but if the true story of slavery in the American South was known, many of them did.

    Do you seriously take ISIS as an authority on Islamic law? Seriously? Their scholarship is completely sub-par, being an extreme offshoot of an extreme offshoot…….The people on the front lines fighting and being killed by them are Muslims.

    The point is that ISIS thinks they are and a growing number of Muslims seems to agree with them, especially the disaffected Muslims living in the West and who seem to be their most eager and zealous recruits. And since might makes right, if ISIS is ultimately successful and creates a caliph out of Iraqi and Syrian territory then that will provide them credibility and win them even more moral support in the Islamic world. Therefore, it’s up to Muslims to wrest control of the narrative from ISIS and prove to non-Muslims that they are an aberration and apostates. However, the Islamic states of Saudi Arabia and Turkey are aiding and abetting ISIS and with the exception of the Kurds and the Syrian army, I’m not impressed with the Muslim world’s efforts to stop them or in countering their brand of Islam.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Talha
  143. KenH says:
    @Talha

    That is very heartening. And as a citizen of the USA I never supported our war in Iraq or our foreign policy of regime change in the Middle East. We have absolutely no right to invade Muslim nations, depose their leaders and force a form of government (so called democracy) and cultural norms on people who do not wish these things or to torture Muslims (Abu Ghraib) suspected of being our enemies. It is this unholy policy that has destabilized the region and led to the refugee crisis.

    This is being done for Israel’s benefit thanks largely to their powerful domestic lobby and craven and cowardly U.S. politicians. The American people have been disenfranchised and have little say in what its own government does.

    • Replies: @Talha
  144. KenH says:
    @KenH

    While not necessarily conclusive regarding Koranic admonitions to rape kafir women, ….

    I meant to say exhortations, not admonitions.

  145. Talha says:
    @KenH

    Dear KenH,

    Now this is what I call a dialogue. You seem very reasoned in your responses whether I agree with you or not.

    Your conclusion about the fact that an ignorant Muslim could make a jump from the rules of war captives to the streets of Europe is not far-fetched. That is the danger of ignorance; one simply does not know that he does not know. This is the danger of opening up interpretation of religious texts to every Tom, Dick and Abdullah. If local imams aren’t condemning it, then it is on them. Please bear in mind that a ‘local imam’ just means he leads prayers, it does not mean that he is a qualified scholar; the two are not necessarily entwined.

    Europeans and Christians outlawed the practice and even when white Europeans were colonizing the Muslim world they weren’t going crazy and raping women just because they were a vanquished people as the Koran would permit.

    In one sense, this is correct because the recent colonization of the Muslim world happened around the same time that Europe had already decided to let go of slavery. Prior to that, Europeans and Christians were quite alright with taking slaves from the Muslim world or selling slaves to them and making a profit.

    While the New Testament sanctions slavery, it does not sanction sex with slaves like the Koran and admonishes masters to treat their slaves with dignity.

    This is a tenuous conclusion. Unless the New Testament explicitly repudiates one or another law from the Mosaic canon, that is assumed to be be quite valid since our Master Jesus (peace be upon him) did not depart from Mosaic Law, but was both an expert in it and taught it. It was Paul that pushed for a departure (and not necessarily from all the Mosaic Law) and even then this was an early conflict within the early Christian fathers, as seen by the positions taken by James the Just and others. Our Master Jesus (pbuh) knew full well what Mosaic condoned between master and slave and never called it out. His silence on the matter would be taken (from a Muslim perspective) as consent to the earlier law in place, otherwise a prophet of God is duty-bound to make its prohibition clear – this is a principle in jurisprudence. Anything else (unless explicit text to the contrary is found) is speculation based upon projecting our current values on that community anachronistically. For instance, see a review of the summary conclusions from “Slavery in Early Christianity”:

    http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-94222008000300025

    This passage would discourage forcible rape or sexual slavery to any reasonable person. Does the Koran have anything comparable?

    There are plenty of primary texts that share the same language, for instance:
    “And be kind to parents, and to kinsmen, and orphans, and the needy, and the close neighbor, and the distant neighbor, and the companion at your side, and the wayfarer, and to what your right hands possess. Surely, God does not like those who are arrogant, proud.” (Qur’an 4:36) – this would, by your logic come to the same conclusion since forcing oneself on a slave cannot be considered kindness. Thus, again by your conclusion, this would assume that any sexual act between the slave and master was consensual.

    It is reported that the last exhortation of the Prophet (pbuh) on his deathbed was, “The prayer, the prayer! And fear God in what your right hands possess.” from the collection of Abu Dawud.

    On your conclusions about ISIS; they may gain power for a while, but their extremism will eat them alive. The Muslim world has seen this kind of thing rear its ugly head every few centuries. They do damage and cause unrest and finally fall into the dust bin of history. According to Sunni Orthodoxy, they are an aberration that must be challenged, they are not apostates; they are extremely misguided Muslims.

    Saudi’s involvement does not surprise me, but Turkey’s does. They have been a vanguard of traditional Sunni (and Sufi) Islamic Orthodoxy. Why they would throw their lot in with the likes of ISIS, I can’t say. Maybe their fear of an independent Kurdistan has gotten the best of them or they are vying for a position in the region vis-a-vis their old competitor, Persia. Either way, it seems like a bad calculation – as some recent bombings inside Turkey seem to be pointing to.

    May God grant you and your family honor in this life and the next.

  146. Talha says:
    @KenH

    Amen, brother. I remember marching in LA against that idiotic war – Mr. Bush dismissed us as ‘a focus group’. It would be funny if not for the tragic loss of life.

  147. Oh Dear says:
    @Rehmat

    Jimmy Savile was, throughout his career, supported by a left-wing organisation called the BBC, who not only paid his generous wages but also covered up his barbaric and repulsive behaviour to the point that senior management ignored any warnings and indeed sought to remove those who told the truth. The BBC is funded from ordinary people who, should they fail to pay the state-approved license fee can go to jail irrespective of their circumstances. Yes, you can watch the BBC’s left-wing multi-culti output but if you don’t pay, you are a criminal.

    Interestingly, having a television that can receive the BBC output can be considered enough that you have watched their shows, though in all fairness the BBC employs ‘detector vehicles’ that can, we are told, determine if you are watching BBC without paying.

    The BBC’s multi-culti approach means that in a recent TV series, the Artful Dodger was shown as a black child, but with a hidden heart of gold, even though it is unlikely Charles Dickens saw the character as that.

    A couple of decades ago Mr Sayle was a middling, largely unfunny comedian but a person whose political rants are of no interest today except to those with little understanding of the world. Activist usually means someone with too much time on their hands and a poor grasp of real life. No matter, he has an opinion about unprovoked violence in one place while carefully ignoring it in places nearer home, though that is the usual standard for left-wingers. Or left-whingers as they prefer to be known.

    As for mass rapists, you only have to look at northern UK towns like Rotherham whose multi-culti population (Rotherham has large numbers of muslim men who do as they please with impunity) to see what mass rape is. If you believe that Rotherham is a wonderful example of diversity you really should go there: I had relatives who lived there and saw what went on, and it wasn’t pleasant.

    Terrible though any crime against children is, four hundred young boys does not measure up to the 1400 vulnerable girls in Rotherham who were abused and threatened with injury. Worse for Rotherham, it isn’t just rape. I am aware of the story of a white girl who willingly consorted with muslim males and ended up in the canal with her throat cut. Apparently it was a matter of honour for these young men that having got the young woman pregnant, she had to be killed. At their trial they appealed saying that a prison sentence would bring shame on their family, so they argued they should be let go. Sadly for them, they weren’t.

    I doubt whether “bigots like Reed” would have you believe pornography came from any place in particular, but if you believe he said that I am sure you can provide links to his words.

    As usual when talking to left-leaning people, one may eagerly await a logical and clear argument instead of emotion but disappointingly, it never comes.

  148. orly says:
    @RaceRealist88

    correction, there have been “3″ slashing on the subway this year.

    and while we are on the topic of crime, hey look crime in nyc continues its downwards trends since it peak in the eighties.

    but i guess facts don’t really factor in with impotent angry white males in a society dominated by white males who fuck them and dangle the negro menace to keep them in line.

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  149. Kat Grey says:

    The intentions if these bearers of Diversity to ethnically homogenous nations are about as benign as the Witch with the poisoned apple in Snow White They are carefully selected, sleekly articulate and systematically placed in various European universities. Once ensconced they can work their evil machintions against the trusting naive indigenous population. In the beginning they operate in the shadows, deftly working behind the scenes to set the stage where black Africans, Muslims and other Third Worlders appear in the guise of “refugees”. A deliberate word to tear at the heartstrings of the sensitive enlightened natives, conjuring up pathetic images of doe-eyed mothers carrying crying babies through the rubble of a war zone while another child clutches frantically at her shabby dress. The contrasting reality to this false image is only manifested whwn the “refugees” suddenly appear in the streets and towns strutting along the asphalt like a conquering army upon the supine bodies of the vanquished. And as weeks and mknths pass, another phenomenon takes place. As if by magic these “refugees” are augmented by wives and children who quickly become a feature in every neighbourhood and street. Hospital queues grow longer. Schools become overcrowded. The housing list is a road to nowhere; not to worry though as they will not be homeless. Before the year is out they are a demographic to be reckoned with and society must flex itself to accomodate them. And.learn to accept them or be labelled racist. Even if their traditions and values are more Stone Age than New Age. In five years they have put down roots and history has been re-written claiming they have had a presence in the land as long as the indigenous whites. The kids grow up to take the available jobs and prized slots in universities as the young educated white people start emigrating in alarming numbers while the neighbourhoods of their working class counterparts are steadily being encroached and invaded by even more “refugees. The media plays its part of the Wicked Witch of Diversity’s servile handmaiden by glorifying interracial unions as the Holy Grail to be sought by all intelligent whites. While at the same time whites are denigrated as the purveyors of all the vices and plagues that have visited the world since Day One. At this time the spiritually chastened indjgenous people have been so intimidated and dumbed down that it is safe for the Witch to come out into the open. And step up to the.podium to the make her Victory speech to the wild cheering of the diversified masses. Snow White is dead. Fairy Tales are only for ignorant racists.

  150. Truth says:
    @orly

    571 to 3? Hey, he was close.

  151. @dc.sunsets

    Carrying a .45 cocked? You sure? Not prudent. You mean cocked and locked, I.e., on the 1911 A-1 the hammer is back (cocked) with the safety engaged. Even then, it is not the safest way to carry. And in a crisis situation, unless muscle memory is keenly trained, one can forget to depress safety, losing valuable seconds and possibly one’s life. Moreover the safety can accidentally be pressed off by either clothing or flesh, endangering user or bystanders. You may consider taking a ccw course, tamp down the hot tempered rhetoric, and know the laws of deadly force before you speak in a public forum. Safety first. It may benefit you to seek legal advice from a qualified attorney. Up to you.
    Tommy

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  152. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    Semitic is a language family. A recent full-genome sequencing study has shown that Ashkenazi Jews, the largest subgroup of Jews numerically, have roughly 50% Middle Eastern and 50% Southern European genetic ancestry.

  153. @Jim Christian

    Diversity means fewer whites. Don’t take my word for it, take the Brookings Institution’s. They put out a paper comparing the disparity in diversity of young and old cohorts in each state. How did they define diversity? Was it an arcane sociological calculation? No. Diversity was defined as the percentage of non-whites in the relevant population. More whites, less diversity. Fewer whites, more diversity. BTW the winner in the disparity rankings was California, with few young whites (27% of the child population being white) and lots of old white people.

    So.. Chicago and Detroit are very diverse. When the last white person leaves, they’ll have maximal, 100% diversity. Every progressive’s dream.

  154. O'Coner says:

    I guess this every blog needs a Trump style comedy hour. It’s a shame that another racist dipshit like Mr. Reed gets his hour, though. Where to start – you used Palestine/Israel as an example of ‘diversity’ as a calamity. Really? By that logic, South Africa and Nazi Germany were also example of how disparate groups , ‘just can’t get along.’ Enforced ethnic cleansing and genocide by a self proclaimed ‘superior race’ then, is a blow against the concept of ‘diversity.’ I don’t need to read further. Perhaps this article is a some kind of existential satire. If so, it’s way over my head.

  155. @tommy hobbes

    Thank you, Tommy, for the corrections. My metaphorical future remap of a news story, taken as a factual statement of actual action, was fortunately made where someone with a far better understanding of firearms, CCW and law was able to help me address my misperceptions.

    [Facepalm]

    I admit I’ve undoubtedly made the mistake of thinking I knew more than another person about a subject they mentioned, briefly and casually, in a public forum.

    I’m betting you can’t imagine that.

    It astonishes me that you think this is an appropriate place to play “I know more about guns than you do.”

  156. Talha says:
    @Priss Factor

    Logic doesn’t matter. What matters is the show, the spectacle. Blacks have a harder time telling fact from funkery. Consider the black debating style. It’s about being raucous, not rational.

    Maybe that is the case today. It did not used to be. Malcolm X debated at the Oxford Union. You don’t just stumble into the Oxford Union debate floor especially in that era; you need to be invited – you get a standing ovation just for getting there. Those Anglo-Saxons have pride in there language and those who have the proper elocution to use it properly.

    He did not use jive or slang in his speeches or debates except as a particular rhetorical device.

    Malcolm was a brilliant debater and orator; his background (though not from an official university) spanned the great modern philosophers of the West: Schopenhauer, Spinoza, Nietzsche, Kant, etc. Listen to his debates or speeches – most are online.

    May God preserve you and your family.

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  157. Talha says:
    @Talha

    Those Anglo-Saxons have pride in there language and those who have the proper elocution to use it properly.

    Nice work Talha – mental note to self: when writing in praise of someone’s excellent use of language, try not to use sub par language.

    Sheeesh…

  158. TWS says:

    The joys of cultural conflict brought to you by empire.

  159. Allowing my allotted 30 seconds of Hillary Clinton airtime last night, I caught Madame Clinton on the television, this time screeching about “getting together”. With the subtlety of a blacksmith, she made sure that behind her were several Orientals, blacks, Hispanics and several Mohammedan women in full garb. A few token palefaces sprinkled the crowd, but not many. Gee, d’ya think she was trying to make a point?

  160. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Rehmat

    Holtzclaw, Americanized from Holtzklau, is a German surname but not a typical Ashkenazi surname at all. There are a lot more German-Americans than Jews in Oklahoma.

  161. […] Source: Diversity: A Civilizational Nightmare – The Unz Review […]

  162. Moses says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    “Tiny amounts of diversity probably do add something to an overall culture; really good ethnic restaurants are an obvious example, as are some forms of music. ”

    Yes, I’ve come to the same conclusion. Multi-racial societies *can* exist and even be “richer” than mono-racial/cultural societies. But ONLY if one race/culture is a dominant matrix, say >80%. This, historically, described America.

    It reminds me of chemistry. A solvent can absorb only so much foreign substance before it becomes saturated. Once the tipping point is reached things change rather quickly.

    We’re at — or beyond — the tipping point.

  163. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Thank God! I’m not insane after all. I have long believed that seeking diversity for the sake of difference was a form of mental illness if not unmitigated ignorance. It has become a meme as in Orwell’s “Animal Farm” where the sheep endlessly chanted, “4 legs good, 2 legs bad.” You must believe it because, well, because it has been said so often.
    As the editorial points out, there are thousands of reasons why we should seek a homogeneous society as opposed to a diversified one, and history is replete with bloody examples of inter-tribal
    mayhem. We are hard wired to seek our own and be suspicious of others.
    The unnamed advantages of a society divided along racial lines remain just that, unnamed. The sky is just as blue, and the grass just as green either way. If there were $1.oo to be made from a completely integrated society we can all be assured that corporations would all be falling over one another to produce one, no government intervention required.

  164. gustafus says:
    @Lemurmaniac

    I think most Americans don’t have the stomach for it …. yet.

    But once enough toddlers have been buggered by “sexual emergencies” … even suburban moms and those oh so silent feminists will begin calling for door to door purges.

    It must reach the leavy suburbs… private schools and homosexual enclaves. Orlando stirred the hive….

  165. Sam J. says:

    “…It seems to have brought no benefit beyond crime, rape, and genital mutilation…”

    I believe that genital mutilation is highly overrated and we could do without it.

  166. Frank C says:

    Heil Freddd!!!
    The idea under diversity is none other than mutual coexistence in peace between human beings (we are all human beings in my humble opinion Herrr Fred) who have in common the civil, that is to say, they are civilized.

    For the rest, the most convenient thing is to separate them, perhaps in a cage. By your way of thinking you could be part of that initiative, but inside the cage, for a simple reason herr Fred: you are an imbecile. Heil Hitler !!!

  167. @anon

    Let me educate you (if that is remotely possible) on how to make logically valid comparisons for your rant:

    1. Compare the behavior of Muslim immigrants with that of other immigrants in the America/West
    2. Compare the behavior of non-Muslim refugees settled in the America/West with Muslim ones
    3. Compare crime rates for Muslim immigrants with that of the native population in America/West

    In other words compare apples with apples and not apples with cherry picked oranges.

    Finally, try answering the tired old question: Why Muslims emigrate – no gate crash into America/West and not the other way around?

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