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White Nationalists Celebrate ‘An Awakening’ After Donald Trump’s Victory

WASHINGTON — For years, they have lurked in the web’s dark corners, masking themselves with cartoon images and writing screeds about the demise of white culture under ominous pseudonyms. But on Saturday, in the wake of Donald J. Trump’s surprising election victory, hundreds of his extremist supporters converged on the capital to herald a moment of political ascendance that many had thought to be far away.

In the bowels of the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center, three blocks from the White House, members of the so-called alt-right movement gathered for what they had supposed would be an autopsy to plot their grim future under a Clinton administration. Instead, they celebrated the unexpected march of their white nationalist ideas toward the mainstream, portraying Mr. Trump’s win as validation that the tide had turned in their fight to preserve white culture.

“It’s been an awakening,” Richard B. Spencer, who is credited with coining the term alt-right, said at the gathering on Saturday. “This is what a successful movement looks like.”

The movement has been critical of politicians of all stripes for promoting diversity, immigration and perceived political correctness. Its critics call it a rebranded version of the Ku Klux Klan, promoting anti-Semitism, violence and suppression of minorities.

Intellectual leaders of the movement argue that they are merely trying to realize their desire for a white “ethno-state” where they can be left alone. Mr. Trump, with his divisive language about immigrants and Muslims, has given them hope that these dreams can come true.

 
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  1. Lol, notice the language: “lurked”, “dark corners”, “screeds”, “ominous”, “extremist”, “bowels”, “autopsy”, “grim future”, “white nationalist”, “rebranded version of the Ku Klux Klan”, “suppression”…

    Ok there, Pulitzer.

    • LOL: Marcus
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    Yeah, I know I have a hard time listening to Richard Spencer's podcasts because it is difficult to make out what he is saying through that shiny black helmet and mask, and the heavy, hissing, respiratory sounds. I kept thinking he was saying "all righty". Now I know better.
    Reading about Richard reminds me; I haven't sent RADIX any money recently. Need to do that next time I go on the site.
    , @Jim Christian
    Oh and don't forget, "The unexpected march of their White Nationalist ideas"! The KKK marches, no? Ya have to love this stuff. NYT, baby! Wad that fish wrap up with WashPost and the various Tribunes and the Boston Globe and they're all the same. Different papers that are all on simulcast. Nothing will change with them, they accept no credit for their losses, for the destruction they've done their own side, they're going to keep preaching to their own choir.

    Maybe they figure they've lost all they can lose, have leveled off their losses of subscribers/readers and will now just cruise along as they have? Not sure how long they can continue the bleed.
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  2. In what sense is this laughably purple prose from the usual suspects at Slim Helu’s propaganda broadsheet a “news article,” pray tell?

  3. All we can say is race realism is factually correct so it will triumph theres a small window of opportunity for jews to get on the right side of reality if they dont do it soon loud and proud well we all know what happens when jewish treachery gets exposed in saxon nations. Many of us on the dissident right alt right and neo reaction are hoping the jews will flip All i can say is do it soon do it really clearly get on the record as white defenders of westerncivilization and its peoples facing genocide by leftism multiculturalism frankly youre going to have to own a lot of it to make any flip credible

    • Replies: @imbroglio
    This is interesting. The Jews occupy a no-man's land. They're white but they're Jews. Lots of American Jews have been brought up to think of themselves as white, know more about church and Christianity than Judaism and are intermarrying so fast that the percentage of American Jews is going down faster than the percentage of Latinos and Asians are going up.

    So when you come looking for Jews, you'll find blonde, blue-eyed Abe Cohen who runs the local shoe store and whose kids go to the YMCA summer camp with the other kids.

    So run Abe and his family out of town (or worse), take over the shoe store and the white nationalist ethnostate comes into being. Problem solved.
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    They mean some people are getting tired of being racially harassed no-stop by black/brown/Arab/Jewish racists on the streets as well as mainstream media, internet comments sections, academia, social media, …

    If whites become racially aware, many people, starting from professors and big journalists, will need a new hobby.
    It’s reasonable they are worried about this. For some of them said hobby is their main one.

    Think that psychologist who wrote that “when people have problems they let anger out on blacks, gays, Jews”.
    Shouldn’t he be worried that he might start to be asked if, by any chance, when ‘blacks, gays, Jews’ have problems they let anger out on anybody, and who that “anybody” may be identified with?
    Or was he meaning to say non-black/gay/Jewish people are some sort of a moral sub-species?

    Life would get less comfortable for that psychologist if he could no longer let his problems out on non-gay non-Jewish white people and got exposed as the racist he is.

    You can hardly imagine something as gloomy as the life of bullies left with no-one accepting their bullying.

  5. I take it “Alt-Right” is an attempt to distinguish it’s members from the “Right Wing”, “Extreme” or “Moderate” Right or perhaps even Conservative or Neo-Conservative ideologies. From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it’s class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino’s [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass? Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.

    So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.

    ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants. This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can’t reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!

    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
    "So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities."

    You got that right. But most of these groups are remote-controlled by others and the more secret they try to be, the easier they are to control at a distance.

    Note especially that Señor Netanyahu successfully turned the Fundamentalist Xians like Reverend Hagee into rabid Zionists.

    So the perverse possibility that now through Trump--there will be a stab at same with the "White" nativists, Know-Nothings, clandestine KKK leftovers and such?

    On verra.

    The new scapegoat, of course, is the Mexicans, jeje.

    , @interesting
    "want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges"


    you are high on stupid.......white people just want to be able to live the "American dream" without being taxed to death AND are tired of being labeled racist just for being white.

    The BLM movement has really opened the eyes of many who have to defend themselves for nothing other than having white skin....as if that's some form of currency.....it's not my fault so stop pointing your fingers at me.

    my job, industry and career was destroyed too.

    god damn.....i posted this before i read all the way thru....i'm not trying to be mean buy you are fucked up...here's another one of your delusions.

    "So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities"

    you are beyond help........

    the brainwashing in this country is something to behold......YOU REALLY THINK THE ELECTION OF TRUMP IS BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE HATE POC??

    my god man, wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    , @Fidelios Automata
    You are partly right. It is the mostly-white elites that have promoted political correctness and diversity at the expense of the underclass. They are the true racists. I have no desire to be "superior" to blacks or anyone else and don't know anybody who does. It's the erosion in our standard of living, and the unearned and undeserved preferential treatment given to minorities and immigrants, that has us mad as hell.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges."

    As would any people.

    "They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race."

    As would any people.

    "One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass?"

    Because a good portion are Jews who don't consider themselves "white." The remainder are signally d-bags that have always existed.

    "Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs."

    That's obvious and has been done throughout history via slavery.

    "So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities."

    No, it should be directed at Jews, SJW whites and minorities. Jews because they have betrayed whites in an effort to better their own people. (I can understand and respect this, btw.) SWW because they are traitors. Minorities because racial, ethics and religious groups don't work under the same roof. Never have, never will.

    "ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants."

    No land, no cities, no possessions "morally" belongs to anyone. The territory and production of the United States belongs to that group which is willing and able to control it. Whites have no right to anything.

    "This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can’t reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!"

    The past exists to motivate the current population but is otherwise pointless. The Sumerians are gone. The Assyrian Empire is dead. The Persian Empire is dust. The future belongs to those willing to fight. Whites seem unwilling at the moment. But everyone - including you - know that we are most most dangerous people on the planet. Study World War I and World War II. Europeans are a fucking freak show of organized death to the enemy when they want to be - and I'm one of them.

    This is why Jews want us dead. (I don't blame them.) Organized and ethnically proud whites are a terrifying thought, especially if they wake up to the con job that has been perpetrated against them.

    But, hey, I still say that the odds are on your side. Whites likely won't wake up. They will go gentle into that good night. But odds are a funny thing. It's not just a question of the odds but what are consequences if you lose that matters.

    You have five to one odds, but if you lose, we'll take your types out in a very nasty way - and you know it.

    , @War for Blair Mountain
    Asians are actively participating in the racial and economic dispossession of the Historic Native Born White American Majority.



    I don't care about the "Noble" American Injun.


    Leftist such as you don't get to lecture The Historic Native Born White American Majority about what they can or can't do. If there is a will there is a way to reverse the Chinese Colonization of California.
    , @Corvinus
    "The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race."

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right. Most white Americans do not seek to harken back to the 1950's from a race perspective. Am I a "bad white" for challenging "good whites"?
    , @Thirdeye

    From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.
     
    Wrong. Alt-right is a catchall term encompassing all conservatives disaffected towards the "official" conservative coalition that coalesced around postwar "movement" conservatives, neoconservatives, and religious conservatives within the Republican Party.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country....
     
    Like the very real upward concentration of wealth, and the role of immigration in that concentration of wealth has nothing to do with it.

    ....a time when the WASP demographic has regained it’s class privileges....
     
    The WASP demographic is not a social class. Substitution of ethnicity and gender for economic class as the nexus of social justice issues led to the demise of the American Left. Learn the lesson or you will persist in foolishness.

    .....the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class.....
     
    ....which, until the mushrooming of bureaucracy and disinvestment in the latter half of the Twentieth Century was the most productive workforce in the world, and fought sometimes bloody battles to gain a just share of the fruits of their labor.

    .....the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing.....
     
    .....just like the Red Americans did to each other. A similar demographic event happened across North America some time around 7000 B.P.

    ....formerly indigenous Mexicans...
     
    Mexicans were indigenous to Mexico. The Paiutes, Shumash, Ohlone, Yana, and such were never Mexican.

    Find one, just one, group of Natives who would forego the advantages of Western industrial society (medicine, electricity, transportation, universalist politics, the economic benefits of federal subsidies and casinos....) to return to their precious unfettered Native ways.
  6. Donald Trump, as nearly as I can divine, still believes in some form of American civic nationalism; he does not support white nationalism and is probably mostly puzzled by it. A partition of the U.S., with a portion being a white homeland is probably inconceivable, and highly unpatriotic, for him. What is interesting is that the New York Times equates Donald Trump with the Alt-Right; it is the reason that they hate and fear a man that they otherwise derided as a clown and a buffoon. Donald Trump has, possibly without knowing and intending it, ignited white racial consciousness and given it a focus. Whites sense that they are being racially dispossessed from their homeland, although most of them can’t yet articulate it in those terms. But they somehow believe that Trump is on their side, which may or may not be true (I hope it is), and he may or may not be able to deliver; given the forces arrayed against him, I fear that he will fail, although not for lack of trying. One of the interviewees in the Times’s article correctly articulates why the Alt-Right celebrates the victory of Donald Trump: it gives us time to raise the consciousness of white people and limit the migration of non-whites into the U.S. A Hillary Clinton victory would have flooded the U.S. with non-whites before white racial consciousness was raised sufficiently to offer effective resistance.

    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles

    Donald Trump has, possibly without knowing and intending it, ignited white racial consciousness and given it a focus. Whites sense that they are being racially dispossessed from their homeland, although most of them can’t yet articulate it in those terms. But they somehow believe that Trump is on their side...
     
    I agree. I don't think Trump thinks about white nationalism at all, it's all about patriotism with him. And you can be a patriot regardless of race.

    Why do the white nationalist latch on to Trump? It's definitely a real thing. Is it because they feel that Trump --> less immigration --> less non-white immigration? Is it because their feelings of love for their country are basically feelings of love for the historic country which was exclusively ruled by whites and Trump is a patriot? Is it because so many in the white working class finally said f*ck you to non-white globalization and open borders and Trump's policies are America first and anti-globalization?

    , @Thirdeye
    That's my take on Trump's beliefs as well. The Times' conflation of Trump's civic nationalism with white nationalism seems to stem from Trump's pointing to the undermining of American civic values by the regressive aspects of Third World cultures arriving with immigrant populations, which are embraced by liberals as "multiculturalism" and "diversity."
    , @anon
    I think that the alt-right has little influence, Trump won the highest in states that voted for Gary Johnson not that Confederate flying states. Trump did the best in the plains while he did just ok in the South. In fact, immigration is an issue and I think he will helped but there is a right wing movement from the farm areas many are not alt-right or neo-confederate. In most of the plain states from North Dakota to Oklahoma Trump got higher totals than many of the southern states as a percentage of the voting population. Trump did about 52 percent in Texas and 65 percent in Oklahoma. In fact there is a moved toward libertarian-rural rather than the old south big government defense like Huntsville Alabama. Whites will grow again if they are told to go to Oklahoma and not Texas as much since Oklahoma is basically cheaper now than most of the big urban areas of Texas like Houston, Austin, and Dallas.
  7. The recent and continuing outpouring of hate against white people will undoubtedly increase sympathy for White Nationalists. Which is exactly what George Soros wants. I won’t give him the satisfaction. I’m white and Nationalist but not White Nationalist.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yea, I used to think like you. Eventually, however, the inherent contradictions between those two become blindingly obvious. You don't want to see them (or, at least, I didn't), but it's bit like a high-powered flashlight constantly in your face; it's kind of hard to ignore.

    Nationalism doesn't work for a proposition "people." Blood will always win over words. Clever members of certain groups will continually redefine that proposition to give advantage to their group.

    Besides, how do you close off the border. If the definition of an American is a freedom-loving, hard-working person, how do you say no to the tens of millions of freedom-loving, hard-working Hispanics, Asians and Africans who want to emigrate every year? In truth, you can't in good conscience.

    However, Japan and China can turn down everyone because they have a simple, ironclad answer that can't be manipulated: They are not our race.

    Once you open up the definition of what it means to be an American or Japanese or Chinese, the game is lost.
  8. What a crap …..

    If the writers of the article had studied American history they would have known that with the exception of Barack Hussein Obama – all US presidents were from WHITE or JEWISH RACES.

    Now if those White presidents sucked Zionist AZZ in the past, how can they be sure Donald Trump wouldn’t do the same once he enters the White House?

    Remember White Chuck Hagel’s Senate confirmation scandal? An-antisemite who after confirmation as head of Pentagon became pro-Israel….

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/12/20/jews-against-chuck-hagel/

  9. @jimbojones
    Lol, notice the language: "lurked", "dark corners", "screeds", "ominous", "extremist", "bowels", "autopsy", "grim future", "white nationalist", "rebranded version of the Ku Klux Klan", "suppression"...

    Ok there, Pulitzer.

    Yeah, I know I have a hard time listening to Richard Spencer’s podcasts because it is difficult to make out what he is saying through that shiny black helmet and mask, and the heavy, hissing, respiratory sounds. I kept thinking he was saying “all righty”. Now I know better.
    Reading about Richard reminds me; I haven’t sent RADIX any money recently. Need to do that next time I go on the site.

  10. Standard psyops from the now thoroughly discredited NYT.

    Maybe Americans tired of the SJW screeching which is turning our colleges into a PC nightmare, graduating wimps who have no idea how hard the real world is, but the Times will hold their hand.

    Maybe Americans tired of seeing our teen daughters encouraged to dress like hookers and act like they’re in heat, because that’s so kewl, while we worried about the mind-numbing propaganda telling our teen sons to try homosexuality, you might like it!

    Americans finally woke up and realized that our culture, our land, our religion and moral code was under attack from those that ‘lurk’ in dark corners.

    And the no-longer believable Times led the way to degeneracy every time.

  11. Someone should resurrect the Lacoste shirts from the 80′s with a Pepe on it instead of a crocodile.

    That, or a picture of Hillary with NOT MY PRESIDENT underneath it. At least it would be true.

  12. One wonders whether Alan Rappeport and Noah Weiland ever wonder about the senseless things African Americans do.

    Could the following tragic incident involving Congressman Danny Davis grandson been inspired by Justin Tipping’s black feature film debut, Kicks?

    CHICAGO (WLS) –

    http://abc7chicago.com/news/2-teens-charged-in-fatal-shooting-of-us-rep-danny-davis-grandson/1616714/

    Two teenagers have been charged in the fatal shooting of the 15-year-old grandson of Congressman Danny Davis, D-Chicago, Friday night, police said.

    Javon Wilson, 15, was home with his siblings in the 5600-block of Princeton Avenue Friday evening when police said two teenagers came into the home and started an argument over gym shoes.

    Prosecutors said that the two teens were friend’s with the victim’s brother. One of the teens lent the victim’s younger brother a pair of pants in exchange for shoes and didn’t want to return the shoes until he got the pants back, prosecutors said.

    The two teens entered the home and a fight ensued, resulting in Wilson being shot and killed, prosecutors said.

    Kicks (Animal Kingdom studio)

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/kicks_2016

    Fifteen-year-old Brandon longs for a pair of the freshest sneakers that money can buy; assuming that merely having them on his feet will help him escape the reality of being poor, neglected by the opposite sex and picked on by everyone — even his best friends. Working hard to get them, he soon finds that the titular shoes have instead made him a target after they are promptly snatched by local hood, Flaco. Seemingly the embodiment of menace, Flaco harbors complexities of his own that will be revealed when Brandon goes on a mission to retrieve his stolen sneakers with his two best friends in tow.

    To be filed under black life and death imitating black art, or keeping it real.

  13. Hive’s lack of self-awareness on full display here. Would NPI even exist if the Jordan Commission recommendations had been heeded? Or if Prop 187 & Simpson-Smith had been enacted in ’96?

    Recommend a perusal of the NYT comments for full effect & sneak preview of coming attractions vis Lefty hysteria. A look at the conference video shows that much of the proceedings were perfectly reasonable, though the level of candor was at times jarring. Spencer does seems to be engaging in some boyo swagger & silliness with all the Pepe, praise kek toasts, etc., but it is hard to fault him too much since the guy has probably been weathering a leftist funded sh*tstorm for years. He probably wants to jerk the left’s chains with Dr Evil play acting. If he is simply advocating for an immigration pause, with a tiny stream allowed based on skill level, wealth, eduction, that wouldn’t be controversial on the right. Going whole hog for a national origins criteria is unwise, since most folks are fine with immigration from anywhere if the levels are, 1) modest, and 2) comprised of pro-American, well educated, self reliant types. (probably you could add things like English language fluency, knowledge of American history, tacit support for constitutional freedoms & free enterpise as other criteria).

    Would that the SPLC & ADL put its own events on youtube. And while they’re at it, can we please have some video evidence for the outbreak of hateful hating hate crimes by Trump voters?
    The left has been engaging in its own ethnocentric nation changing triumphalism for years from Doris Meissner (“We are transforming ourselves”), Art Torres (“[Prop187] is the last gasp of white America”), Lawrence Chua (“we will bury you”), and LaRaza/MeCha (“For the race everything. Outside the race nothing”.). They pretend that current demographic changes are as inevitable as gravity, rather than confess that they’ve been precisely engineered to make the US a one party state.
    It is well past time for the Dem leadership to disavow not just La Raza, but the hypocrisy & double standards of their SJW minions like Tim Wise, Morris Dees and Sally Kohn. Until then, there can be no detente.

    • Replies: @Honest Onyx
    I wish. But the left never lets up, they only double down and get even more retarded. If this country really gets a white nationalist movement up and going, the responsibility will fall utterly on the MSM and the left for pushing whites to the brink.
  14. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “the mind-numbing propaganda telling our teen sons to try homosexuality, you might like it!”

    Any examples of that? Like, when Trump spotted that rainbow flag, grabbed it, and started waving it from the stage?

  15. I predicted a Hillary win (oops), voted Libertarian, and am very okay with a Trump victory. I’ll mention again that UR startled me when I first started reading a year ago because the considered opinions expressed in articles and comments here were mainstream at one time, and with good reason. It’s just plain okay to be concerned about the ethnic and racial make-up of your country, to admit there’s probably irreducible friction between some peoples, to notice that the social justice types are willing to abrogate liberty wholesale to achieve dubious goals, and much more.

  16. White nationalism is not going to happen in the foreseeable future, unless you support some kind of secessionist movement. Best to focus now on destroying the left. Tribalism (for all races) can emerge once the intellectual left is sufficiently marginalized.

  17. @Diversity Heretic
    Donald Trump, as nearly as I can divine, still believes in some form of American civic nationalism; he does not support white nationalism and is probably mostly puzzled by it. A partition of the U.S., with a portion being a white homeland is probably inconceivable, and highly unpatriotic, for him. What is interesting is that the New York Times equates Donald Trump with the Alt-Right; it is the reason that they hate and fear a man that they otherwise derided as a clown and a buffoon. Donald Trump has, possibly without knowing and intending it, ignited white racial consciousness and given it a focus. Whites sense that they are being racially dispossessed from their homeland, although most of them can't yet articulate it in those terms. But they somehow believe that Trump is on their side, which may or may not be true (I hope it is), and he may or may not be able to deliver; given the forces arrayed against him, I fear that he will fail, although not for lack of trying. One of the interviewees in the Times's article correctly articulates why the Alt-Right celebrates the victory of Donald Trump: it gives us time to raise the consciousness of white people and limit the migration of non-whites into the U.S. A Hillary Clinton victory would have flooded the U.S. with non-whites before white racial consciousness was raised sufficiently to offer effective resistance.

    Donald Trump has, possibly without knowing and intending it, ignited white racial consciousness and given it a focus. Whites sense that they are being racially dispossessed from their homeland, although most of them can’t yet articulate it in those terms. But they somehow believe that Trump is on their side…

    I agree. I don’t think Trump thinks about white nationalism at all, it’s all about patriotism with him. And you can be a patriot regardless of race.

    Why do the white nationalist latch on to Trump? It’s definitely a real thing. Is it because they feel that Trump –> less immigration –> less non-white immigration? Is it because their feelings of love for their country are basically feelings of love for the historic country which was exclusively ruled by whites and Trump is a patriot? Is it because so many in the white working class finally said f*ck you to non-white globalization and open borders and Trump’s policies are America first and anti-globalization?

  18. @Diogenes
    I take it "Alt-Right" is an attempt to distinguish it's members from the "Right Wing", "Extreme" or "Moderate" Right or perhaps even Conservative or Neo-Conservative ideologies. From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it's class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino's [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass? Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.

    So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.

    ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants. This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can't reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!

    “So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.”

    You got that right. But most of these groups are remote-controlled by others and the more secret they try to be, the easier they are to control at a distance.

    Note especially that Señor Netanyahu successfully turned the Fundamentalist Xians like Reverend Hagee into rabid Zionists.

    So the perverse possibility that now through Trump–there will be a stab at same with the “White” nativists, Know-Nothings, clandestine KKK leftovers and such?

    On verra.

    The new scapegoat, of course, is the Mexicans, jeje.

  19. @Diogenes
    I take it "Alt-Right" is an attempt to distinguish it's members from the "Right Wing", "Extreme" or "Moderate" Right or perhaps even Conservative or Neo-Conservative ideologies. From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it's class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino's [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass? Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.

    So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.

    ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants. This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can't reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!

    “want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges”

    you are high on stupid…….white people just want to be able to live the “American dream” without being taxed to death AND are tired of being labeled racist just for being white.

    The BLM movement has really opened the eyes of many who have to defend themselves for nothing other than having white skin….as if that’s some form of currency…..it’s not my fault so stop pointing your fingers at me.

    my job, industry and career was destroyed too.

    god damn…..i posted this before i read all the way thru….i’m not trying to be mean buy you are fucked up…here’s another one of your delusions.

    “So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities”

    you are beyond help……..

    the brainwashing in this country is something to behold……YOU REALLY THINK THE ELECTION OF TRUMP IS BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE HATE POC??

    my god man, wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. @Diogenes
    I take it "Alt-Right" is an attempt to distinguish it's members from the "Right Wing", "Extreme" or "Moderate" Right or perhaps even Conservative or Neo-Conservative ideologies. From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it's class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino's [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass? Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.

    So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.

    ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants. This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can't reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!

    You are partly right. It is the mostly-white elites that have promoted political correctness and diversity at the expense of the underclass. They are the true racists. I have no desire to be “superior” to blacks or anyone else and don’t know anybody who does. It’s the erosion in our standard of living, and the unearned and undeserved preferential treatment given to minorities and immigrants, that has us mad as hell.

  21. “undeserved preferential treatment given to minorities and immigrants”

    and all the while those groups screeching “white privilege”

  22. Did someone mention “The American Dream”? One supposes no surprise is in order, Señor Trump often tries to present himself as Horatio Alger.

    After Paul Valéry–La meilleure façon de réaliser ses rêves est de se réveiller. To wit, “The easiest way to realize your dreams is to wake up.”

    Gilles Deleuze has a grittier sententia that particularly applies to the United Statesian nightmare which one will not quote but which boils down to the question, “Whose?”‘

    Because if you are trapped in someone else’s you are screwed.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    Ah, very clever. Are you saying that it can be a nightmare to be trapped in someone else's dream?
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    If you "are trapped in someone else's" maybe you should go home and build your own.
  23. @Diogenes
    I take it "Alt-Right" is an attempt to distinguish it's members from the "Right Wing", "Extreme" or "Moderate" Right or perhaps even Conservative or Neo-Conservative ideologies. From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it's class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino's [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass? Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.

    So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.

    ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants. This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can't reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!

    “The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges.”

    As would any people.

    “They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.”

    As would any people.

    “One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass?”

    Because a good portion are Jews who don’t consider themselves “white.” The remainder are signally d-bags that have always existed.

    “Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.”

    That’s obvious and has been done throughout history via slavery.

    “So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.”

    No, it should be directed at Jews, SJW whites and minorities. Jews because they have betrayed whites in an effort to better their own people. (I can understand and respect this, btw.) SWW because they are traitors. Minorities because racial, ethics and religious groups don’t work under the same roof. Never have, never will.

    “ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants.”

    No land, no cities, no possessions “morally” belongs to anyone. The territory and production of the United States belongs to that group which is willing and able to control it. Whites have no right to anything.

    “This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can’t reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!”

    The past exists to motivate the current population but is otherwise pointless. The Sumerians are gone. The Assyrian Empire is dead. The Persian Empire is dust. The future belongs to those willing to fight. Whites seem unwilling at the moment. But everyone – including you – know that we are most most dangerous people on the planet. Study World War I and World War II. Europeans are a fucking freak show of organized death to the enemy when they want to be – and I’m one of them.

    This is why Jews want us dead. (I don’t blame them.) Organized and ethnically proud whites are a terrifying thought, especially if they wake up to the con job that has been perpetrated against them.

    But, hey, I still say that the odds are on your side. Whites likely won’t wake up. They will go gentle into that good night. But odds are a funny thing. It’s not just a question of the odds but what are consequences if you lose that matters.

    You have five to one odds, but if you lose, we’ll take your types out in a very nasty way – and you know it.

    • Replies: @rw95
    And how many ubermensch white children have you brought into the world yet?
    I always see a whole lot of talk, but I never see any action from you types.
    "White" is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble.
  24. @Diogenes
    I take it "Alt-Right" is an attempt to distinguish it's members from the "Right Wing", "Extreme" or "Moderate" Right or perhaps even Conservative or Neo-Conservative ideologies. From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it's class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino's [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass? Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.

    So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.

    ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants. This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can't reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!

    Asians are actively participating in the racial and economic dispossession of the Historic Native Born White American Majority.

    I don’t care about the “Noble” American Injun.

    Leftist such as you don’t get to lecture The Historic Native Born White American Majority about what they can or can’t do. If there is a will there is a way to reverse the Chinese Colonization of California.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Nobody cares about you either. Go back to Ireland.
    , @Marcus
    Also reverse illegal Irish immigration, the Irish government is lobbying on behalf of 50,000 Irish illegals now that Trump has won.
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-result-threatens-irish-illegal-immigrants-m9tb7l83k
  25. The first few sentences signaled NYT clickbait. Pinch and Carlos and their SJW editors have left the rag moribund. Ignoring its nonsense is the best way to ensure that the beast’s death is quick and relatively painless. I’m not going to bother reading any further links to NYT crap. I’ll leave coprophagia to progs; and may they choke on it.

  26. the alleged “white defenders of western civilization” is truly a joke!
    the only objective is theft of natural resources, the land, invasion of other cultures and calling it the property of the West is not only absurd but downright nonsensical.

    The chickens must come home to roost! Using the Bible as a foundation ‘when one plants wheat, then that is what one will get”. One cannot plant corn and get mayonnaise!

    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
    ‘'when one plants wheat, then that is what one will get”

    Aristotle did it better, and also more appropriately to the context--"If you plant a bed, you will not grow a bed."

    Let the Finance Capitalists ponder that one.

    , @War for Blair Mountain
    And the Chinese and Hindus get to enjoy the full benefits of the European Conquest of North America......And Noam Chomksy and the Left, will give their enthusiastic Blessing to this. And Noam's Jewish grandkids get to inherit Noam's multimillion dollar Wellsfleet Estate on Cape Cod. And the descendants of the Tata Institute Grads get to write history.


    The fact of the matter is, Leftitist can't give The Historic Native Born White Americans any reason why the Hostoric Native Born White Ametican Majority should allow themselves to be voted into a racial minority within the borders of the US by highly racialized Chinese, Hindus, and other nonwhite members of the Democratic Party Voting Bloc.


    The leftist openly express their genocidal intent towards The Historic Native Born White American Majority....and then they act shocked when Whitey revolts against their very nasty agenda.
  27. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Asians are actively participating in the racial and economic dispossession of the Historic Native Born White American Majority.



    I don't care about the "Noble" American Injun.


    Leftist such as you don't get to lecture The Historic Native Born White American Majority about what they can or can't do. If there is a will there is a way to reverse the Chinese Colonization of California.

    Nobody cares about you either. Go back to Ireland.

  28. @jack shindo
    the alleged "white defenders of western civilization" is truly a joke!
    the only objective is theft of natural resources, the land, invasion of other cultures and calling it the property of the West is not only absurd but downright nonsensical.

    The chickens must come home to roost! Using the Bible as a foundation 'when one plants wheat, then that is what one will get". One cannot plant corn and get mayonnaise!

    ‘’when one plants wheat, then that is what one will get”

    Aristotle did it better, and also more appropriately to the context–”If you plant a bed, you will not grow a bed.”

    Let the Finance Capitalists ponder that one.

  29. Jewish diversity freaks are afraid their numerous Jewish protected class federal entitlements will be lost under a Trump presidency, which is highly unlikely.

    They are even more afraid that their main political currency, protected class federal entitlements, for brokering protected class voter’s voting biases may be lost.

    Diversity By Group: African American, Alternate Lifestyle, Asian, Disabled, Hispanic & Latino, Jewish, Native American, Women

  30. @Diogenes
    I take it "Alt-Right" is an attempt to distinguish it's members from the "Right Wing", "Extreme" or "Moderate" Right or perhaps even Conservative or Neo-Conservative ideologies. From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it's class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino's [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass? Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.

    So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.

    ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants. This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can't reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!

    “The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.”

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right. Most white Americans do not seek to harken back to the 1950′s from a race perspective. Am I a “bad white” for challenging “good whites”?

    • Replies: @woodNfish

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right.
     
    No it isn't. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    White Folks vote with their feet for it...For 51 years!!..;
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Douthat had two tweet storms about the alt-right on Monday night, starting with the one below.

    He suggested journalists would be better off interviewing Sailer than giving more attention to Richard Spencer.

    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/800880467218231297
  31. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Jewish Parasites Bemoan ‘an Awakening’ After Donald Trump’s Victory

  32. @jack shindo
    the alleged "white defenders of western civilization" is truly a joke!
    the only objective is theft of natural resources, the land, invasion of other cultures and calling it the property of the West is not only absurd but downright nonsensical.

    The chickens must come home to roost! Using the Bible as a foundation 'when one plants wheat, then that is what one will get". One cannot plant corn and get mayonnaise!

    And the Chinese and Hindus get to enjoy the full benefits of the European Conquest of North America……And Noam Chomksy and the Left, will give their enthusiastic Blessing to this. And Noam’s Jewish grandkids get to inherit Noam’s multimillion dollar Wellsfleet Estate on Cape Cod. And the descendants of the Tata Institute Grads get to write history.

    The fact of the matter is, Leftitist can’t give The Historic Native Born White Americans any reason why the Hostoric Native Born White Ametican Majority should allow themselves to be voted into a racial minority within the borders of the US by highly racialized Chinese, Hindus, and other nonwhite members of the Democratic Party Voting Bloc.

    The leftist openly express their genocidal intent towards The Historic Native Born White American Majority….and then they act shocked when Whitey revolts against their very nasty agenda.

  33. The Trump victory in the election (as well as victories in the House, Senate, state governorships, and state legislatures) represents White men and women finally, in self-defense, getting on the “identity politics” bandwagon. In repairing the damage caused by liberalism, this will hopefully mean rolling back Political Correctness as well as affirmative action for all non-white peoples, women, and sexual orientations (currently about 70% of our population).

    It will also mean a return to a rational nationalism and democracy and an end to globalization that destroys (as it is intended to do) national, cultural, and religious identities in a borderless New Global World Order consisting of nothing but workers, corporate officers, and bankers competing against each other in a global network of trade associations in lieu of nation states. Hopefully, rolling back the damage will also allow our universities to return to the activity of preparing students for adult life rather than spoon feeding Cultural Marxism to new generations of adolescent victims.

    As has so often been described in the Unz Review, the Democratic coalition of Blacks, feminists, Hispanics, and LGBT … xyz represent a Coalition of the Fringes temporarily held together with the crazy glue of a shared disdain and hatred of White males. These are all “victim cultures” waiting to cash in on their victimizations via affirmative action and welfare handouts as compensation for alleged crimes against them by Western Civilization in general and White males in particular. However, victim cultures, by definition, can never solve their own problems (it is always someone else’s fault) because the alleged victims, like children, lack agency. Their alleged oppressors must as a life work solve their problems for them as compensation for the alleged oppression. Easy work when you can get it … perpetual victimization meaning you never have to grow up and take responsibility for your own life.

  34. @E. A. Costa
    Did someone mention "The American Dream"? One supposes no surprise is in order, Señor Trump often tries to present himself as Horatio Alger.

    After Paul Valéry--La meilleure façon de réaliser ses rêves est de se réveiller. To wit, "The easiest way to realize your dreams is to wake up."

    Gilles Deleuze has a grittier sententia that particularly applies to the United Statesian nightmare which one will not quote but which boils down to the question, "Whose?"'

    Because if you are trapped in someone else's you are screwed.

    Ah, very clever. Are you saying that it can be a nightmare to be trapped in someone else’s dream?

    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
    "...si vous êtes pris dans le rêve de l'autre, vous êtes foutu."

    Gilles Deleuze
  35. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Propaganda techniques being practiced by NYT here, attaching people to Trump with whom he has nothing to do with. And of course they are bad people. Here in Chicago Farrakhan can be seen on public access cable television, as well as some of his followers, having a regularly scheduled show. He’s also had a regular radio show on AM radio. There doesn’t seem to be any outcry about this even though it’s been going on for years. There’s obviously a double standard at work here. If a white person does something then we’re all collectively to blame; if a non-white robs a bank then we’re to judge them as individuals and not stigmatize the entire group.
    Seems like the NYT and many others feel very comfortable in sliming an entire group of people. Stop the hate.

  36. @War for Blair Mountain
    Asians are actively participating in the racial and economic dispossession of the Historic Native Born White American Majority.



    I don't care about the "Noble" American Injun.


    Leftist such as you don't get to lecture The Historic Native Born White American Majority about what they can or can't do. If there is a will there is a way to reverse the Chinese Colonization of California.

    Also reverse illegal Irish immigration, the Irish government is lobbying on behalf of 50,000 Irish illegals now that Trump has won.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-result-threatens-irish-illegal-immigrants-m9tb7l83k

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Yes Marcus...I completely agree with you. Irish Immigrant Men belong in Ireland to protect Irish Women from African Male and Pakistani Muslim Male Gang Rape. Same for the Polish in England.


    Larger picture:in the future, I support only European Immigrants...I am all for the 4 million Boers comming to America...now in 2017...


    Interesting historic:The Hudson River in NYS was named after a Boer named Henry Hudson.....so was the Tappan Zee Bridge....
  37. It seems that anything whites do that may have a political aspect to it is racist according to the truly racist NYT and the rest of the lying LSM, the SPLC, and the ADL, and all the other leftist organizaations. Nationalism however, is color blind.

  38. @Corvinus
    "The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race."

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right. Most white Americans do not seek to harken back to the 1950's from a race perspective. Am I a "bad white" for challenging "good whites"?

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right.

    No it isn’t. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "No it isn’t. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left."

    What is propaganda and shaming tactics are those who insist there is a difference between "good whites" and "bad whites". Please outline the differences here.
    , @n230099

    "No it isn’t. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left."
     
    Bingo!
  39. @Corvinus
    "The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race."

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right. Most white Americans do not seek to harken back to the 1950's from a race perspective. Am I a "bad white" for challenging "good whites"?

    White Folks vote with their feet for it…For 51 years!!..;

  40. @E. A. Costa
    Did someone mention "The American Dream"? One supposes no surprise is in order, Señor Trump often tries to present himself as Horatio Alger.

    After Paul Valéry--La meilleure façon de réaliser ses rêves est de se réveiller. To wit, "The easiest way to realize your dreams is to wake up."

    Gilles Deleuze has a grittier sententia that particularly applies to the United Statesian nightmare which one will not quote but which boils down to the question, "Whose?"'

    Because if you are trapped in someone else's you are screwed.

    If you “are trapped in someone else’s” maybe you should go home and build your own.

  41. @WorkingClass
    The recent and continuing outpouring of hate against white people will undoubtedly increase sympathy for White Nationalists. Which is exactly what George Soros wants. I won't give him the satisfaction. I'm white and Nationalist but not White Nationalist.

    Yea, I used to think like you. Eventually, however, the inherent contradictions between those two become blindingly obvious. You don’t want to see them (or, at least, I didn’t), but it’s bit like a high-powered flashlight constantly in your face; it’s kind of hard to ignore.

    Nationalism doesn’t work for a proposition “people.” Blood will always win over words. Clever members of certain groups will continually redefine that proposition to give advantage to their group.

    Besides, how do you close off the border. If the definition of an American is a freedom-loving, hard-working person, how do you say no to the tens of millions of freedom-loving, hard-working Hispanics, Asians and Africans who want to emigrate every year? In truth, you can’t in good conscience.

    However, Japan and China can turn down everyone because they have a simple, ironclad answer that can’t be manipulated: They are not our race.

    Once you open up the definition of what it means to be an American or Japanese or Chinese, the game is lost.

    • Replies: @rw95
    As I've asked before, please tell me how some Irish potato farmer, Sicilian gangster and Slavic peasant have a "racial"/ethnic connection with the Anglo-Saxon founders of the United States?
    Shall we send back everyone who's not a western European protestant? Brett Stevens says we should. Are you willing to go all the way, or will you be a hypocrite?
  42. @Marcus
    Also reverse illegal Irish immigration, the Irish government is lobbying on behalf of 50,000 Irish illegals now that Trump has won.
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-result-threatens-irish-illegal-immigrants-m9tb7l83k

    Yes Marcus…I completely agree with you. Irish Immigrant Men belong in Ireland to protect Irish Women from African Male and Pakistani Muslim Male Gang Rape. Same for the Polish in England.

    Larger picture:in the future, I support only European Immigrants…I am all for the 4 million Boers comming to America…now in 2017…

    Interesting historic:The Hudson River in NYS was named after a Boer named Henry Hudson…..so was the Tappan Zee Bridge….

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yes we should take the Boers and in exchange send back our African immigrants
  43. @woodNfish

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right.
     
    No it isn't. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left.

    “No it isn’t. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left.”

    What is propaganda and shaming tactics are those who insist there is a difference between “good whites” and “bad whites”. Please outline the differences here.

  44. @War for Blair Mountain
    Yes Marcus...I completely agree with you. Irish Immigrant Men belong in Ireland to protect Irish Women from African Male and Pakistani Muslim Male Gang Rape. Same for the Polish in England.


    Larger picture:in the future, I support only European Immigrants...I am all for the 4 million Boers comming to America...now in 2017...


    Interesting historic:The Hudson River in NYS was named after a Boer named Henry Hudson.....so was the Tappan Zee Bridge....

    Yes we should take the Boers and in exchange send back our African immigrants

  45. Richard Spencer is a fool.

    He is doing everything he can to destroy the nascent nationalist movement that has arisen in the United States.

    • Replies: @Amasius
    NAMBLA were a bunch of fools. They did everything they could to destroy the gay rights movement that had arisen in the United States.
    , @peterike

    Richard Spencer is a fool. He is doing everything he can to destroy the nascent nationalist movement that has arisen in the United States.
     
    And now we get "Heil Trump" blowing up on Twitter and everywhere else. I swear, our side can't go five minutes without sabotaging itself.
  46. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    How much was spent for the NPI meeting?

    How much is spent for AIPAC conferences?

    How much damage has NPI done to the world? Did it call for wars, invasions, and sanctions on other nations? I think not. I don’t think NPI has any politician or institution under its wing. White Nationalists have done zero damage to the world since the end of the Cold War. All the new wars waged by the US have been cooked by Neocons and Liberal Zionists by pulling the strings of the shabbos goyim. And think of all the Wall Street robbery and manipulations that enriched the 1% over everyone else. Look at the power on Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Ivy League, and DC, and none of it has to do with white identity or white nationalism. Wars and the looting of the world was carried out by the Globalists, not nationalists. If anything, nationalism has been the most effective instrument against total-Jewish-supremacist-globalism.

    AIPAC owns all the presidents and all the politicians. Its agenda has destroyed entire nations and regions.

    Yet, NYT doesn’t call AIPAC ‘Jewish nationalist’ or ‘Jewish supremacist’. It finds nothing strange or weird about all US politicians hailing Israel to high heaven and shedding zero tears about Palestinians who are far more oppressed than blacks under Apartheid.

    It finds nothing wrong with 98% of Americans being pressured to support and praise the nationalist and even supremacist agenda of the globalist 2%.

    NYT is okay with the Jewish elephant trampling the entire world but freaks out about the white mouse that wants its voice heard.

    But then, this fear is understandable. Jews are the mouse with elephant power, whereas whites are the elephant with mouse power. According to the Narrative, serving and pandering to Jews is what America is all about, but voicing any interest in favor of white identity is eeeeevil.
    Jews and white gentiles are like British imperialist elites and the native masses in India. Brits were the mouse with elephant power while the Hindu masses were the demographic elephant with mouse power…. that is until they began to speak up and resist. (This is why Jews are so eager to destroy any gentile majority in all nations. It is united gentile unity that has been the bane of Jewish supremacist takeover. Jews promote Diversity in the US not out of love for Muslims or anyone else. After all, the Jewish agenda calls for more wars and more mass destruction for the Muslim world. Jews simply want Muslims in EU and US to use them against the white majority. So, the very people whose agenda has killed millions of Muslims[and other non-whites] are inviting Muslims to the West as a battering ram against white people.) If Jews love Diversity, why do they insist on keeping Israel as Jewish as possible?

    Jews are the 2% mouse with elephantine powers, and whites are the majority elephant that has been forced to hide behind the wall. But when the real elephant awakens and gains elephant power, the real mouse will have to hide in the hole.

    Anyway, the MSM highlighted the Alt Right to use it to smear Trump. They thought Alt Right would act like a bunch of Neo-Nazis, but in fact, most Alt Right people made cogent and sensible arguments. MSM realized how their smear campaign had backfired. Alt Right didn’t take the bait and act like Hollywood KKK or Nazis. They spoke more truth than the MSM.

    So, now the MSM is reversing its policy and trying to shut down all Alt Right voices.

    • Replies: @utu
    Indian mouse had on its side the power of Soviet Union and the US as they both were undermining British Empire in joint fight against colonialism. So the Indian mouse defeated British elephant.

    But who will help white/gentile mouse in 21 century America or Europe?
    , @Opinionator
    Anyway, the MSM highlighted the Alt Right to use it to smear Trump. They thought Alt Right would act like a bunch of Neo-Nazis, but in fact, most Alt Right people made cogent and sensible arguments. MSM realized how their smear campaign had backfired. Alt Right didn’t take the bait and act like Hollywood KKK or Nazis. They spoke more truth than the MSM.

    So, now the MSM is reversing its policy and trying to shut down all Alt Right voices.


    But now the Alt Right has taken the bait. Or Spencer posing as an Alt Right leader has effectively taken it for them.
  47. Very few liberals and democrats realize that the KKK was the mainstay of the democrat party for 100 years. The democrats haven’t this angry since the republicans won the civil war and freed the slaves.

    The last 14 years of my working life was at a major university. It is unbelievable what is taught about the civil war. There are actually many profs who have convinced the students that the Republicans were the confederates and the democrats the unionists. Yes indeed, Lincoln and the rest of the abolitionists were democrats and the slave holders and confederate army were republicans.

    FYI Nancy Pelosi’s father was a member of the KKK. He was actually an honorary member as Catholics were not allowed to join back in the day. But as mayor of Baltimore and long term Maryland congress man he had to join to be elected. In fact, when Governor Jerry Brown of California ran for president in the 1976 election he went to Maryland to solicit the support of retired congressman Pelosi. Brown’s black aides were not allowed in the Pelosi home at first. Pelosi directed them to sit in the cars. There was an argument and Governor Brown prevailed on Pelosi to let them into his home.

    Nancy’s husband Paul is a member of a family that was moderately rich back in Italy and became moderately wealthy in San Francisco. But since Nancy became a congress critter their net worth has soared to more than 200 million. Most of the wealth comes from Marin, Napa and Sonoma Counties vineyards, ranches, orchards and very pricey resorts built by and staffed by illegals.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    Excellent post.

    Quoting you : "Very few Liberals and Democrats realize that the KKK was the mainstay of the democrat party for a hundred years".

    Precisely and this one all important point should be thrown back at them relentlessly, as they relentlessly use the KKK as a bogus "Example" of republican policy, without ever expressing the fact that it is/was a creation of the democrats themselves.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.
  48. Carlos Slim, the foreigner who owns a big chunk of the New York Times, has strong ties to Lebanese fascists.

    New York Times has a much stronger fascist pedigree than Trump voters do.

  49. Fascists and Communists find common ground: both groups knew promoting liberalism was the way to weaken the US.

    Yes indeed, Lincoln and the rest of the abolitionists were democrats and the slave holders and confederate army were republicans.

    I suppose they don’t delve much into Abolitionist terrorism, either.

  50. The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    Liberal elites don’t promote “inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity, freedoms and economic opportunity.” Except at the expense of whites. They don’t promote this stuff for China, Israel, Japan, Korea, etc., etc., etc.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it’s class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino’s [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    I was going to respond to this, when I realized I couldn’t. A time when the Anglo-Saxon demographic regained its class privileges at the expense of blacks, browns, and mohameteans? When was that? The past in some alternate reality in a comic book this idiot read? TL;DR after that.

  51. @ThreeCranes
    Ah, very clever. Are you saying that it can be a nightmare to be trapped in someone else's dream?

    “…si vous êtes pris dans le rêve de l’autre, vous êtes foutu.”

    Gilles Deleuze

  52. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yea, I used to think like you. Eventually, however, the inherent contradictions between those two become blindingly obvious. You don't want to see them (or, at least, I didn't), but it's bit like a high-powered flashlight constantly in your face; it's kind of hard to ignore.

    Nationalism doesn't work for a proposition "people." Blood will always win over words. Clever members of certain groups will continually redefine that proposition to give advantage to their group.

    Besides, how do you close off the border. If the definition of an American is a freedom-loving, hard-working person, how do you say no to the tens of millions of freedom-loving, hard-working Hispanics, Asians and Africans who want to emigrate every year? In truth, you can't in good conscience.

    However, Japan and China can turn down everyone because they have a simple, ironclad answer that can't be manipulated: They are not our race.

    Once you open up the definition of what it means to be an American or Japanese or Chinese, the game is lost.

    As I’ve asked before, please tell me how some Irish potato farmer, Sicilian gangster and Slavic peasant have a “racial”/ethnic connection with the Anglo-Saxon founders of the United States?
    Shall we send back everyone who’s not a western European protestant? Brett Stevens says we should. Are you willing to go all the way, or will you be a hypocrite?

  53. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges."

    As would any people.

    "They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race."

    As would any people.

    "One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass?"

    Because a good portion are Jews who don't consider themselves "white." The remainder are signally d-bags that have always existed.

    "Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs."

    That's obvious and has been done throughout history via slavery.

    "So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities."

    No, it should be directed at Jews, SJW whites and minorities. Jews because they have betrayed whites in an effort to better their own people. (I can understand and respect this, btw.) SWW because they are traitors. Minorities because racial, ethics and religious groups don't work under the same roof. Never have, never will.

    "ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants."

    No land, no cities, no possessions "morally" belongs to anyone. The territory and production of the United States belongs to that group which is willing and able to control it. Whites have no right to anything.

    "This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can’t reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!"

    The past exists to motivate the current population but is otherwise pointless. The Sumerians are gone. The Assyrian Empire is dead. The Persian Empire is dust. The future belongs to those willing to fight. Whites seem unwilling at the moment. But everyone - including you - know that we are most most dangerous people on the planet. Study World War I and World War II. Europeans are a fucking freak show of organized death to the enemy when they want to be - and I'm one of them.

    This is why Jews want us dead. (I don't blame them.) Organized and ethnically proud whites are a terrifying thought, especially if they wake up to the con job that has been perpetrated against them.

    But, hey, I still say that the odds are on your side. Whites likely won't wake up. They will go gentle into that good night. But odds are a funny thing. It's not just a question of the odds but what are consequences if you lose that matters.

    You have five to one odds, but if you lose, we'll take your types out in a very nasty way - and you know it.

    And how many ubermensch white children have you brought into the world yet?
    I always see a whole lot of talk, but I never see any action from you types.
    “White” is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble.

    • Troll: Amasius
    • Replies: @antipater_1
    “White” is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble.

    Then there are no races, no ethnicities and no cultures anywhere. I hate to burst your bubble.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "And how many ubermensch white children have you brought into the world yet?"

    More than enough to replace my wife and me.

    Btw, do you make Nazi references to Jews when they talk about Israel and preserving the Jewish people? Didn't think so.

    "I always see a whole lot of talk, but I never see any action from you types."

    I've already start to join groups that can easily be turned into European American-identity groups in the future. (Sooner or later, other whites will wake up and we'll have some infrastructure in place.)

    "“White” is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble."

    Genetic research - and the Theory of Evolution - disagrees.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but genetic researchers have long acknowledged races. They just call them population groups to save their jobs. They also very, very, very, very quietly acknowledge differences in a variety of physical attributes among those various races. They know the truth, but they like their jobs more.

    Buddy, you don't have a problem with me, you have a problem with Mother Nature or God.

  54. @Opinionator
    Richard Spencer is a fool.

    He is doing everything he can to destroy the nascent nationalist movement that has arisen in the United States.

    NAMBLA were a bunch of fools. They did everything they could to destroy the gay rights movement that had arisen in the United States.

  55. We solemnly pray these random particles
    Who slander their own articles
    Living in their prim
    Neighborhoods
    Grow old.

    And becoming feeble,
    Lonely in their failing days,
    Surprised to find themselves
    Surrounded by many diverse ways,
    Vibrant attendant, nurse and doctor.
    We pray for this, Divine Proctor.

    Alas, knowing well this type [of Maggot]
    We suspect will cunningly
    (Before their minds grow denser)
    Wiggle into the care of those
    Who look like Richard Spencer.

  56. @Opinionator
    Richard Spencer is a fool.

    He is doing everything he can to destroy the nascent nationalist movement that has arisen in the United States.

    Richard Spencer is a fool. He is doing everything he can to destroy the nascent nationalist movement that has arisen in the United States.

    And now we get “Heil Trump” blowing up on Twitter and everywhere else. I swear, our side can’t go five minutes without sabotaging itself.

    • Replies: @CrunchybutRealistCon
    The bits that have emerged today make it seem the event devolved into something like the "Dance of the Devils" scene in Mephisto (the indy flic which got the AA in the early 80s). My gut tells me that Spencer, while too extreme in his positions, is more simply lacking in judgement. There's a chance he's a saboteur himself, but there are certainly leftist saboteurs around him. Perhaps he got drunk on all his newfound celebrity, and just frickin lost his mind. If he wanted to hobble opposition to the Democrats & breathe life into the Hive's strawman caricature of the alt-right (or paleo right), he would certainly keep doing what he did this wkend.

    Consider:

    -the fate of Pim Fortuyn & Theo Van Gogh, and that a good many leftists have drunk the "nationalism = pure evil" kool-aid to justify murder

    -that most European nationalist party leaders live essentially like they are in a witness protection program (or with so much extra security you might as well be Rapunzel or the Pope)

    -the mob violence unleashed by DNC pacs on Trump rallies, and exposed by Project Veritas

    -at least 2 likely Trump assassination attempts were narrowly averted since April

    -the obvious leftist plants at certain early Trump rallies who were instructed to act the part of the dumbest redneck archetype, w/ fawning media attention in news reports

    -the corruption & weaponization of state & federal tax agencies resulting in harassment of California Prop 8 supporters, and harassment of Tea Party groups

    -the ongoing MSM hysteria, and the creeping legitimization of threats & violence towards both Trump supporters, the electoral college, and anyone with the temerity to even be diplomatic towards Trump.

    -the obedient reporting by the msm that even moderate immigration restrictionist groups like FAIR are SPLC-designated “hate” groups

    -the Left’s increasing intolerance for freedom of speech, freedom of association & freedom of assembly

    -that there are tens of millions in leftist agitator money sloshing around, and the ruthlessness of Soros at backing revolutionary movements abroad is well known.

    Then consider:
    -the NPI decided to go straight into one of the biggest lefty hornets nests of DC, w/ what seems like only mild precautions, apparently broadcasting their schedule live, even though leftist plants would be able to assist external saboteurs anyway.

    -the adolescent hooting during part of the proceedings capped off by inflammatory rhetoric & drunken frat boy reenactments of a pre WW2 political rally ( a wet dream to the media: “Ah, our worst fears confirmed!”)

    My take: Spencer is now officially radioactive. He has embarrassed the more reasonable & level headed people who agreed to attend his conference, and his influence, while miniscule before, is now zero.
  57. @rw95
    And how many ubermensch white children have you brought into the world yet?
    I always see a whole lot of talk, but I never see any action from you types.
    "White" is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble.

    “White” is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble.

    Then there are no races, no ethnicities and no cultures anywhere. I hate to burst your bubble.

  58. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Hive’s lack of self-awareness on full display here. Would NPI even exist if the Jordan Commission recommendations had been heeded? Or if Prop 187 & Simpson-Smith had been enacted in ’96?

    Recommend a perusal of the NYT comments for full effect & sneak preview of coming attractions vis Lefty hysteria. A look at the conference video shows that much of the proceedings were perfectly reasonable, though the level of candor was at times jarring. Spencer does seems to be engaging in some boyo swagger & silliness with all the Pepe, praise kek toasts, etc., but it is hard to fault him too much since the guy has probably been weathering a leftist funded sh*tstorm for years. He probably wants to jerk the left’s chains with Dr Evil play acting. If he is simply advocating for an immigration pause, with a tiny stream allowed based on skill level, wealth, eduction, that wouldn’t be controversial on the right. Going whole hog for a national origins criteria is unwise, since most folks are fine with immigration from anywhere if the levels are, 1) modest, and 2) comprised of pro-American, well educated, self reliant types. (probably you could add things like English language fluency, knowledge of American history, tacit support for constitutional freedoms & free enterpise as other criteria).

    Would that the SPLC & ADL put its own events on youtube. And while they’re at it, can we please have some video evidence for the outbreak of hateful hating hate crimes by Trump voters?
    The left has been engaging in its own ethnocentric nation changing triumphalism for years from Doris Meissner (“We are transforming ourselves”), Art Torres (“[Prop187] is the last gasp of white America”), Lawrence Chua (“we will bury you”), and LaRaza/MeCha (“For the race everything. Outside the race nothing”.). They pretend that current demographic changes are as inevitable as gravity, rather than confess that they've been precisely engineered to make the US a one party state.
    It is well past time for the Dem leadership to disavow not just La Raza, but the hypocrisy & double standards of their SJW minions like Tim Wise, Morris Dees and Sally Kohn. Until then, there can be no detente.

    I wish. But the left never lets up, they only double down and get even more retarded. If this country really gets a white nationalist movement up and going, the responsibility will fall utterly on the MSM and the left for pushing whites to the brink.

  59. @Anon
    How much was spent for the NPI meeting?

    How much is spent for AIPAC conferences?

    How much damage has NPI done to the world? Did it call for wars, invasions, and sanctions on other nations? I think not. I don't think NPI has any politician or institution under its wing. White Nationalists have done zero damage to the world since the end of the Cold War. All the new wars waged by the US have been cooked by Neocons and Liberal Zionists by pulling the strings of the shabbos goyim. And think of all the Wall Street robbery and manipulations that enriched the 1% over everyone else. Look at the power on Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Ivy League, and DC, and none of it has to do with white identity or white nationalism. Wars and the looting of the world was carried out by the Globalists, not nationalists. If anything, nationalism has been the most effective instrument against total-Jewish-supremacist-globalism.

    AIPAC owns all the presidents and all the politicians. Its agenda has destroyed entire nations and regions.

    Yet, NYT doesn't call AIPAC 'Jewish nationalist' or 'Jewish supremacist'. It finds nothing strange or weird about all US politicians hailing Israel to high heaven and shedding zero tears about Palestinians who are far more oppressed than blacks under Apartheid.

    It finds nothing wrong with 98% of Americans being pressured to support and praise the nationalist and even supremacist agenda of the globalist 2%.

    NYT is okay with the Jewish elephant trampling the entire world but freaks out about the white mouse that wants its voice heard.

    But then, this fear is understandable. Jews are the mouse with elephant power, whereas whites are the elephant with mouse power. According to the Narrative, serving and pandering to Jews is what America is all about, but voicing any interest in favor of white identity is eeeeevil.
    Jews and white gentiles are like British imperialist elites and the native masses in India. Brits were the mouse with elephant power while the Hindu masses were the demographic elephant with mouse power.... that is until they began to speak up and resist. (This is why Jews are so eager to destroy any gentile majority in all nations. It is united gentile unity that has been the bane of Jewish supremacist takeover. Jews promote Diversity in the US not out of love for Muslims or anyone else. After all, the Jewish agenda calls for more wars and more mass destruction for the Muslim world. Jews simply want Muslims in EU and US to use them against the white majority. So, the very people whose agenda has killed millions of Muslims[and other non-whites] are inviting Muslims to the West as a battering ram against white people.) If Jews love Diversity, why do they insist on keeping Israel as Jewish as possible?

    Jews are the 2% mouse with elephantine powers, and whites are the majority elephant that has been forced to hide behind the wall. But when the real elephant awakens and gains elephant power, the real mouse will have to hide in the hole.

    Anyway, the MSM highlighted the Alt Right to use it to smear Trump. They thought Alt Right would act like a bunch of Neo-Nazis, but in fact, most Alt Right people made cogent and sensible arguments. MSM realized how their smear campaign had backfired. Alt Right didn't take the bait and act like Hollywood KKK or Nazis. They spoke more truth than the MSM.

    So, now the MSM is reversing its policy and trying to shut down all Alt Right voices.

    Indian mouse had on its side the power of Soviet Union and the US as they both were undermining British Empire in joint fight against colonialism. So the Indian mouse defeated British elephant.

    But who will help white/gentile mouse in 21 century America or Europe?

  60. @jimbojones
    Lol, notice the language: "lurked", "dark corners", "screeds", "ominous", "extremist", "bowels", "autopsy", "grim future", "white nationalist", "rebranded version of the Ku Klux Klan", "suppression"...

    Ok there, Pulitzer.

    Oh and don’t forget, “The unexpected march of their White Nationalist ideas”! The KKK marches, no? Ya have to love this stuff. NYT, baby! Wad that fish wrap up with WashPost and the various Tribunes and the Boston Globe and they’re all the same. Different papers that are all on simulcast. Nothing will change with them, they accept no credit for their losses, for the destruction they’ve done their own side, they’re going to keep preaching to their own choir.

    Maybe they figure they’ve lost all they can lose, have leveled off their losses of subscribers/readers and will now just cruise along as they have? Not sure how long they can continue the bleed.

  61. @peterike

    Richard Spencer is a fool. He is doing everything he can to destroy the nascent nationalist movement that has arisen in the United States.
     
    And now we get "Heil Trump" blowing up on Twitter and everywhere else. I swear, our side can't go five minutes without sabotaging itself.

    The bits that have emerged today make it seem the event devolved into something like the “Dance of the Devils” scene in Mephisto (the indy flic which got the AA in the early 80s). My gut tells me that Spencer, while too extreme in his positions, is more simply lacking in judgement. There’s a chance he’s a saboteur himself, but there are certainly leftist saboteurs around him. Perhaps he got drunk on all his newfound celebrity, and just frickin lost his mind. If he wanted to hobble opposition to the Democrats & breathe life into the Hive’s strawman caricature of the alt-right (or paleo right), he would certainly keep doing what he did this wkend.

    Consider:

    -the fate of Pim Fortuyn & Theo Van Gogh, and that a good many leftists have drunk the “nationalism = pure evil” kool-aid to justify murder

    -that most European nationalist party leaders live essentially like they are in a witness protection program (or with so much extra security you might as well be Rapunzel or the Pope)

    -the mob violence unleashed by DNC pacs on Trump rallies, and exposed by Project Veritas

    -at least 2 likely Trump assassination attempts were narrowly averted since April

    -the obvious leftist plants at certain early Trump rallies who were instructed to act the part of the dumbest redneck archetype, w/ fawning media attention in news reports

    -the corruption & weaponization of state & federal tax agencies resulting in harassment of California Prop 8 supporters, and harassment of Tea Party groups

    -the ongoing MSM hysteria, and the creeping legitimization of threats & violence towards both Trump supporters, the electoral college, and anyone with the temerity to even be diplomatic towards Trump.

    -the obedient reporting by the msm that even moderate immigration restrictionist groups like FAIR are SPLC-designated “hate” groups

    -the Left’s increasing intolerance for freedom of speech, freedom of association & freedom of assembly

    -that there are tens of millions in leftist agitator money sloshing around, and the ruthlessness of Soros at backing revolutionary movements abroad is well known.

    Then consider:
    -the NPI decided to go straight into one of the biggest lefty hornets nests of DC, w/ what seems like only mild precautions, apparently broadcasting their schedule live, even though leftist plants would be able to assist external saboteurs anyway.

    -the adolescent hooting during part of the proceedings capped off by inflammatory rhetoric & drunken frat boy reenactments of a pre WW2 political rally ( a wet dream to the media: “Ah, our worst fears confirmed!”)

    My take: Spencer is now officially radioactive. He has embarrassed the more reasonable & level headed people who agreed to attend his conference, and his influence, while miniscule before, is now zero.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    My take: Spencer is now officially radioactive. He has embarrassed the more reasonable & level headed people who agreed to attend his conference, and his influence, while miniscule before, is now zero.

    Yep. Spencer is finished as the leader of any kind of growth movement. He is finished as an intellectual. (To the extent he ever was either of those things.) NPI is finished. The Alt Right is probably finished as a brand.

    He blew a great opportunity--one that only arose because of other people's good, hard work. But this could be seen coming from prior reckless statements he had made and his general comportment. The grown men in the room should have taken away the car keys before his antics culminated in this disaster.

    Time to cut our losses and rebuild. Sad but true.

    , @Opinionator
    Alcohol should not be served at such events. There is no margin for error.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    Like you can ignore the massive demographic tsunami that is about to hit.


    The White Cuck Lite types such as yourself are in for a very rude awakening.
  62. @Diversity Heretic
    Donald Trump, as nearly as I can divine, still believes in some form of American civic nationalism; he does not support white nationalism and is probably mostly puzzled by it. A partition of the U.S., with a portion being a white homeland is probably inconceivable, and highly unpatriotic, for him. What is interesting is that the New York Times equates Donald Trump with the Alt-Right; it is the reason that they hate and fear a man that they otherwise derided as a clown and a buffoon. Donald Trump has, possibly without knowing and intending it, ignited white racial consciousness and given it a focus. Whites sense that they are being racially dispossessed from their homeland, although most of them can't yet articulate it in those terms. But they somehow believe that Trump is on their side, which may or may not be true (I hope it is), and he may or may not be able to deliver; given the forces arrayed against him, I fear that he will fail, although not for lack of trying. One of the interviewees in the Times's article correctly articulates why the Alt-Right celebrates the victory of Donald Trump: it gives us time to raise the consciousness of white people and limit the migration of non-whites into the U.S. A Hillary Clinton victory would have flooded the U.S. with non-whites before white racial consciousness was raised sufficiently to offer effective resistance.

    That’s my take on Trump’s beliefs as well. The Times’ conflation of Trump’s civic nationalism with white nationalism seems to stem from Trump’s pointing to the undermining of American civic values by the regressive aspects of Third World cultures arriving with immigrant populations, which are embraced by liberals as “multiculturalism” and “diversity.”

    • Replies: @iffen
    The Times’ conflation of Trump’s civic nationalism with white nationalism

    I doubt that many at the Times think that white nationalism is at hand. This is pure political maneuvering on their part. Trump has disrupted the political control that smoothly oscillates between tweedledee and tweedledum. The Times and other media are 100% invested in exercising power within that political set-up and they resent having a diminished role in exercising power within the system. They are just trying to weigh him down with unsavory baggage, it's not complicated.
  63. @Diogenes
    I take it "Alt-Right" is an attempt to distinguish it's members from the "Right Wing", "Extreme" or "Moderate" Right or perhaps even Conservative or Neo-Conservative ideologies. From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race.

    So they elect a President who is going to roll back the the liberal Agenda to a time when the WASP demographic has regained it's class privileges at the expense of Blacks, Latino's [Mexicans] and dangerous Muslims.

    One should ponder the question of why the ruling White [!] elites have promoted this Liberal agenda at the expense of their White underclass? Might I suggest that it was more profitable for them to do so than to appease the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class better to bring in more exploitable harder working non whites and to export jobs to countries with cheaper labor costs.

    So the anger of the Whites is and should be directed at the white establishment and not minorities.

    ONE final thought the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing, the themselves were once a minority immigrant population who privileged themselves at the expense of others and are going to now going to reinstate their privilege at the expense of the descendants of African Slaves, Indians, formerly indigenous Mexicans and Muslim immigrants. This is certainly not an exercise in social justice but it is more akin to social repression or conquest and a throw back to colonial times. You can't reverse time, your reactionary regressive experiment will be short lived just as your President elect will be!

    From what I can make out Alt Right equals White ethno nationalism or even White Supramacist.

    Wrong. Alt-right is a catchall term encompassing all conservatives disaffected towards the “official” conservative coalition that coalesced around postwar “movement” conservatives, neoconservatives, and religious conservatives within the Republican Party.

    The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country….

    Like the very real upward concentration of wealth, and the role of immigration in that concentration of wealth has nothing to do with it.

    ….a time when the WASP demographic has regained it’s class privileges….

    The WASP demographic is not a social class. Substitution of ethnicity and gender for economic class as the nexus of social justice issues led to the demise of the American Left. Learn the lesson or you will persist in foolishness.

    …..the over pampered and expensive to support White middle class…..

    ….which, until the mushrooming of bureaucracy and disinvestment in the latter half of the Twentieth Century was the most productive workforce in the world, and fought sometimes bloody battles to gain a just share of the fruits of their labor.

    …..the white race usurped America from the Red skinned Amer -Indians by bloody conquest and ethnic cleansing…..

    …..just like the Red Americans did to each other. A similar demographic event happened across North America some time around 7000 B.P.

    ….formerly indigenous Mexicans…

    Mexicans were indigenous to Mexico. The Paiutes, Shumash, Ohlone, Yana, and such were never Mexican.

    Find one, just one, group of Natives who would forego the advantages of Western industrial society (medicine, electricity, transportation, universalist politics, the economic benefits of federal subsidies and casinos….) to return to their precious unfettered Native ways.

  64. @Corvinus
    "The problem it seems is Whites in America are uncomfortable with the increasing ethnic and racial diversity of their country and want to roll back the clock when they were the predominant demographic with the most privileges. They blame the liberal elites for promoting inclusive, ethnic and racial diversity , freedoms and economic opportunity at the expense of the White Proto- American founding race."

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right. Most white Americans do not seek to harken back to the 1950's from a race perspective. Am I a "bad white" for challenging "good whites"?

    Douthat had two tweet storms about the alt-right on Monday night, starting with the one below.

    He suggested journalists would be better off interviewing Sailer than giving more attention to Richard Spencer.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Here's the 2nd tweet storm.

    Heartiste semi-defends Spencer in a reply, but after the "Hail Trump" nonsense, I think Team Trump would be smart to distance themselves from Spencer and NPI.

    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/800891598322225152
    , @res

    He suggested journalists would be better off interviewing Sailer than giving more attention to Richard Spencer.
     
    Well, it depends on what their agenda really is. And I think the media's choice makes that quite clear.
  65. @Dave Pinsen
    Douthat had two tweet storms about the alt-right on Monday night, starting with the one below.

    He suggested journalists would be better off interviewing Sailer than giving more attention to Richard Spencer.

    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/800880467218231297

    Here’s the 2nd tweet storm.

    Heartiste semi-defends Spencer in a reply, but after the “Hail Trump” nonsense, I think Team Trump would be smart to distance themselves from Spencer and NPI.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    And because Spencer has laid claim to and now poisoned the Alt Right, Team Trump now needs to distance itself from the Alt Right, as well. The rest of us do, too, unfortunately. Spencer is finished. NPI is finished. The Alt Right is finished.

    The practical impact of this will be even more far reaching if it pushes Team Trump to actually move left on substantive policies in order to lend credibility to its distancing. This may happen without their really even being conscious of it.

    Unbelievable.

  66. @Alden
    Very few liberals and democrats realize that the KKK was the mainstay of the democrat party for 100 years. The democrats haven't this angry since the republicans won the civil war and freed the slaves.

    The last 14 years of my working life was at a major university. It is unbelievable what is taught about the civil war. There are actually many profs who have convinced the students that the Republicans were the confederates and the democrats the unionists. Yes indeed, Lincoln and the rest of the abolitionists were democrats and the slave holders and confederate army were republicans.

    FYI Nancy Pelosi's father was a member of the KKK. He was actually an honorary member as Catholics were not allowed to join back in the day. But as mayor of Baltimore and long term Maryland congress man he had to join to be elected. In fact, when Governor Jerry Brown of California ran for president in the 1976 election he went to Maryland to solicit the support of retired congressman Pelosi. Brown's black aides were not allowed in the Pelosi home at first. Pelosi directed them to sit in the cars. There was an argument and Governor Brown prevailed on Pelosi to let them into his home.

    Nancy's husband Paul is a member of a family that was moderately rich back in Italy and became moderately wealthy in San Francisco. But since Nancy became a congress critter their net worth has soared to more than 200 million. Most of the wealth comes from Marin, Napa and Sonoma Counties vineyards, ranches, orchards and very pricey resorts built by and staffed by illegals.

    Excellent post.

    Quoting you : “Very few Liberals and Democrats realize that the KKK was the mainstay of the democrat party for a hundred years”.

    Precisely and this one all important point should be thrown back at them relentlessly, as they relentlessly use the KKK as a bogus “Example” of republican policy, without ever expressing the fact that it is/was a creation of the democrats themselves.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

  67. @woodNfish

    That is the false narrative conjured up by the Alt-Right.
     
    No it isn't. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left.

    “No it isn’t. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left.”

    Bingo!

  68. @Thirdeye
    That's my take on Trump's beliefs as well. The Times' conflation of Trump's civic nationalism with white nationalism seems to stem from Trump's pointing to the undermining of American civic values by the regressive aspects of Third World cultures arriving with immigrant populations, which are embraced by liberals as "multiculturalism" and "diversity."

    The Times’ conflation of Trump’s civic nationalism with white nationalism

    I doubt that many at the Times think that white nationalism is at hand. This is pure political maneuvering on their part. Trump has disrupted the political control that smoothly oscillates between tweedledee and tweedledum. The Times and other media are 100% invested in exercising power within that political set-up and they resent having a diminished role in exercising power within the system. They are just trying to weigh him down with unsavory baggage, it’s not complicated.

  69. Spencer had carefully developed a reputation of being a presentable representative of racialists, now he’s apparently decided to become a David Duke like publicity whore, giving the media what they want in exchange for exposure.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    An unbelievable fuck up.

    But I question how careful he has been, at least in recent months. I've been raising flags about reckless statements he has been making and missed opportunities to get a compelling message out since I've been commenting here. This could be seen coming.
  70. And now we get “Heil Trump” blowing up on Twitter and everywhere else. I swear, our side can’t go five minutes without sabotaging itself.

    Riiight. “Our” side (probably some teenager) paint’s “Heil Trump,” while their side shoots someone at a rally. Our side is soooo much worse!

    No it isn’t. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left.”

    You should put the racist first. “Anti-white racist left” reads too closely to “anti-white-racist left.” “Racist, anti-white left” reads better.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Riiight. “Our” side (probably some teenager) paint’s “Heil Trump,” while their side shoots someone at a rally. Our side is soooo much worse!

    This isn't about right or wrong. It is about astonishingly poor judgment.

    Spencer gave the media exactly what they wanted: vivid visuals that support the neo-Nazi label, the use of Nazi-era terminology, all backed by on-the-record statements about "ethnic cleansing" and racial superiority. Quite credible if you are a hurried American with limited time just trying to make a living and put food on the table for the family.

    A serious leader would have the discipline to stay focused on violence at rallies, violence against Whites.
  71. @Dave Pinsen
    Douthat had two tweet storms about the alt-right on Monday night, starting with the one below.

    He suggested journalists would be better off interviewing Sailer than giving more attention to Richard Spencer.

    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/800880467218231297

    He suggested journalists would be better off interviewing Sailer than giving more attention to Richard Spencer.

    Well, it depends on what their agenda really is. And I think the media’s choice makes that quite clear.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Well, it depends on what their agenda really is.

    Good observation. I doubt that the MSM will want to give Sailer very much play time, most of them are not that stupid.

    I really like Douthat's writing. I wonder if he is actively plugging Steve.
  72. @res

    He suggested journalists would be better off interviewing Sailer than giving more attention to Richard Spencer.
     
    Well, it depends on what their agenda really is. And I think the media's choice makes that quite clear.

    Well, it depends on what their agenda really is.

    Good observation. I doubt that the MSM will want to give Sailer very much play time, most of them are not that stupid.

    I really like Douthat’s writing. I wonder if he is actively plugging Steve.

  73. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    The bits that have emerged today make it seem the event devolved into something like the "Dance of the Devils" scene in Mephisto (the indy flic which got the AA in the early 80s). My gut tells me that Spencer, while too extreme in his positions, is more simply lacking in judgement. There's a chance he's a saboteur himself, but there are certainly leftist saboteurs around him. Perhaps he got drunk on all his newfound celebrity, and just frickin lost his mind. If he wanted to hobble opposition to the Democrats & breathe life into the Hive's strawman caricature of the alt-right (or paleo right), he would certainly keep doing what he did this wkend.

    Consider:

    -the fate of Pim Fortuyn & Theo Van Gogh, and that a good many leftists have drunk the "nationalism = pure evil" kool-aid to justify murder

    -that most European nationalist party leaders live essentially like they are in a witness protection program (or with so much extra security you might as well be Rapunzel or the Pope)

    -the mob violence unleashed by DNC pacs on Trump rallies, and exposed by Project Veritas

    -at least 2 likely Trump assassination attempts were narrowly averted since April

    -the obvious leftist plants at certain early Trump rallies who were instructed to act the part of the dumbest redneck archetype, w/ fawning media attention in news reports

    -the corruption & weaponization of state & federal tax agencies resulting in harassment of California Prop 8 supporters, and harassment of Tea Party groups

    -the ongoing MSM hysteria, and the creeping legitimization of threats & violence towards both Trump supporters, the electoral college, and anyone with the temerity to even be diplomatic towards Trump.

    -the obedient reporting by the msm that even moderate immigration restrictionist groups like FAIR are SPLC-designated “hate” groups

    -the Left’s increasing intolerance for freedom of speech, freedom of association & freedom of assembly

    -that there are tens of millions in leftist agitator money sloshing around, and the ruthlessness of Soros at backing revolutionary movements abroad is well known.

    Then consider:
    -the NPI decided to go straight into one of the biggest lefty hornets nests of DC, w/ what seems like only mild precautions, apparently broadcasting their schedule live, even though leftist plants would be able to assist external saboteurs anyway.

    -the adolescent hooting during part of the proceedings capped off by inflammatory rhetoric & drunken frat boy reenactments of a pre WW2 political rally ( a wet dream to the media: “Ah, our worst fears confirmed!”)

    My take: Spencer is now officially radioactive. He has embarrassed the more reasonable & level headed people who agreed to attend his conference, and his influence, while miniscule before, is now zero.

    My take: Spencer is now officially radioactive. He has embarrassed the more reasonable & level headed people who agreed to attend his conference, and his influence, while miniscule before, is now zero.

    Yep. Spencer is finished as the leader of any kind of growth movement. He is finished as an intellectual. (To the extent he ever was either of those things.) NPI is finished. The Alt Right is probably finished as a brand.

    He blew a great opportunity–one that only arose because of other people’s good, hard work. But this could be seen coming from prior reckless statements he had made and his general comportment. The grown men in the room should have taken away the car keys before his antics culminated in this disaster.

    Time to cut our losses and rebuild. Sad but true.

  74. @Svigor

    And now we get “Heil Trump” blowing up on Twitter and everywhere else. I swear, our side can’t go five minutes without sabotaging itself.
     
    Riiight. "Our" side (probably some teenager) paint's "Heil Trump," while their side shoots someone at a rally. Our side is soooo much worse!

    No it isn’t. It is propaganda of the anti-white racist Left.”
     
    You should put the racist first. "Anti-white racist left" reads too closely to "anti-white-racist left." "Racist, anti-white left" reads better.

    Riiight. “Our” side (probably some teenager) paint’s “Heil Trump,” while their side shoots someone at a rally. Our side is soooo much worse!

    This isn’t about right or wrong. It is about astonishingly poor judgment.

    Spencer gave the media exactly what they wanted: vivid visuals that support the neo-Nazi label, the use of Nazi-era terminology, all backed by on-the-record statements about “ethnic cleansing” and racial superiority. Quite credible if you are a hurried American with limited time just trying to make a living and put food on the table for the family.

    A serious leader would have the discipline to stay focused on violence at rallies, violence against Whites.

  75. @Marcus
    Spencer had carefully developed a reputation of being a presentable representative of racialists, now he's apparently decided to become a David Duke like publicity whore, giving the media what they want in exchange for exposure.

    An unbelievable fuck up.

    But I question how careful he has been, at least in recent months. I’ve been raising flags about reckless statements he has been making and missed opportunities to get a compelling message out since I’ve been commenting here. This could be seen coming.

  76. @Dave Pinsen
    Here's the 2nd tweet storm.

    Heartiste semi-defends Spencer in a reply, but after the "Hail Trump" nonsense, I think Team Trump would be smart to distance themselves from Spencer and NPI.

    https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/800891598322225152

    And because Spencer has laid claim to and now poisoned the Alt Right, Team Trump now needs to distance itself from the Alt Right, as well. The rest of us do, too, unfortunately. Spencer is finished. NPI is finished. The Alt Right is finished.

    The practical impact of this will be even more far reaching if it pushes Team Trump to actually move left on substantive policies in order to lend credibility to its distancing. This may happen without their really even being conscious of it.

    Unbelievable.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Part of the reason for his success was that he didn't caved in like a typical conservative in response to the usual baseless ad-hominem and guilt by association leftists spew. And he has no tangible connection to the alt right (which is basically a twitter hashtag). He should keep ignoring the media histrionics. But for any "alt right" types looking to mainstream their cause, it's indeed over.
  77. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    The bits that have emerged today make it seem the event devolved into something like the "Dance of the Devils" scene in Mephisto (the indy flic which got the AA in the early 80s). My gut tells me that Spencer, while too extreme in his positions, is more simply lacking in judgement. There's a chance he's a saboteur himself, but there are certainly leftist saboteurs around him. Perhaps he got drunk on all his newfound celebrity, and just frickin lost his mind. If he wanted to hobble opposition to the Democrats & breathe life into the Hive's strawman caricature of the alt-right (or paleo right), he would certainly keep doing what he did this wkend.

    Consider:

    -the fate of Pim Fortuyn & Theo Van Gogh, and that a good many leftists have drunk the "nationalism = pure evil" kool-aid to justify murder

    -that most European nationalist party leaders live essentially like they are in a witness protection program (or with so much extra security you might as well be Rapunzel or the Pope)

    -the mob violence unleashed by DNC pacs on Trump rallies, and exposed by Project Veritas

    -at least 2 likely Trump assassination attempts were narrowly averted since April

    -the obvious leftist plants at certain early Trump rallies who were instructed to act the part of the dumbest redneck archetype, w/ fawning media attention in news reports

    -the corruption & weaponization of state & federal tax agencies resulting in harassment of California Prop 8 supporters, and harassment of Tea Party groups

    -the ongoing MSM hysteria, and the creeping legitimization of threats & violence towards both Trump supporters, the electoral college, and anyone with the temerity to even be diplomatic towards Trump.

    -the obedient reporting by the msm that even moderate immigration restrictionist groups like FAIR are SPLC-designated “hate” groups

    -the Left’s increasing intolerance for freedom of speech, freedom of association & freedom of assembly

    -that there are tens of millions in leftist agitator money sloshing around, and the ruthlessness of Soros at backing revolutionary movements abroad is well known.

    Then consider:
    -the NPI decided to go straight into one of the biggest lefty hornets nests of DC, w/ what seems like only mild precautions, apparently broadcasting their schedule live, even though leftist plants would be able to assist external saboteurs anyway.

    -the adolescent hooting during part of the proceedings capped off by inflammatory rhetoric & drunken frat boy reenactments of a pre WW2 political rally ( a wet dream to the media: “Ah, our worst fears confirmed!”)

    My take: Spencer is now officially radioactive. He has embarrassed the more reasonable & level headed people who agreed to attend his conference, and his influence, while miniscule before, is now zero.

    Alcohol should not be served at such events. There is no margin for error.

  78. @Anon
    How much was spent for the NPI meeting?

    How much is spent for AIPAC conferences?

    How much damage has NPI done to the world? Did it call for wars, invasions, and sanctions on other nations? I think not. I don't think NPI has any politician or institution under its wing. White Nationalists have done zero damage to the world since the end of the Cold War. All the new wars waged by the US have been cooked by Neocons and Liberal Zionists by pulling the strings of the shabbos goyim. And think of all the Wall Street robbery and manipulations that enriched the 1% over everyone else. Look at the power on Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Ivy League, and DC, and none of it has to do with white identity or white nationalism. Wars and the looting of the world was carried out by the Globalists, not nationalists. If anything, nationalism has been the most effective instrument against total-Jewish-supremacist-globalism.

    AIPAC owns all the presidents and all the politicians. Its agenda has destroyed entire nations and regions.

    Yet, NYT doesn't call AIPAC 'Jewish nationalist' or 'Jewish supremacist'. It finds nothing strange or weird about all US politicians hailing Israel to high heaven and shedding zero tears about Palestinians who are far more oppressed than blacks under Apartheid.

    It finds nothing wrong with 98% of Americans being pressured to support and praise the nationalist and even supremacist agenda of the globalist 2%.

    NYT is okay with the Jewish elephant trampling the entire world but freaks out about the white mouse that wants its voice heard.

    But then, this fear is understandable. Jews are the mouse with elephant power, whereas whites are the elephant with mouse power. According to the Narrative, serving and pandering to Jews is what America is all about, but voicing any interest in favor of white identity is eeeeevil.
    Jews and white gentiles are like British imperialist elites and the native masses in India. Brits were the mouse with elephant power while the Hindu masses were the demographic elephant with mouse power.... that is until they began to speak up and resist. (This is why Jews are so eager to destroy any gentile majority in all nations. It is united gentile unity that has been the bane of Jewish supremacist takeover. Jews promote Diversity in the US not out of love for Muslims or anyone else. After all, the Jewish agenda calls for more wars and more mass destruction for the Muslim world. Jews simply want Muslims in EU and US to use them against the white majority. So, the very people whose agenda has killed millions of Muslims[and other non-whites] are inviting Muslims to the West as a battering ram against white people.) If Jews love Diversity, why do they insist on keeping Israel as Jewish as possible?

    Jews are the 2% mouse with elephantine powers, and whites are the majority elephant that has been forced to hide behind the wall. But when the real elephant awakens and gains elephant power, the real mouse will have to hide in the hole.

    Anyway, the MSM highlighted the Alt Right to use it to smear Trump. They thought Alt Right would act like a bunch of Neo-Nazis, but in fact, most Alt Right people made cogent and sensible arguments. MSM realized how their smear campaign had backfired. Alt Right didn't take the bait and act like Hollywood KKK or Nazis. They spoke more truth than the MSM.

    So, now the MSM is reversing its policy and trying to shut down all Alt Right voices.

    Anyway, the MSM highlighted the Alt Right to use it to smear Trump. They thought Alt Right would act like a bunch of Neo-Nazis, but in fact, most Alt Right people made cogent and sensible arguments. MSM realized how their smear campaign had backfired. Alt Right didn’t take the bait and act like Hollywood KKK or Nazis. They spoke more truth than the MSM.

    So, now the MSM is reversing its policy and trying to shut down all Alt Right voices.

    But now the Alt Right has taken the bait. Or Spencer posing as an Alt Right leader has effectively taken it for them.

    • Replies: @Anon
    No, Spencer gave a splendid speech.

    But the media spun it as 'heil hitler', but then the media do this all the time.

    Buchanan gave a rousing speech in 92, but the media turned into 'neo-McCarthyism'.

    Back then, there was no internet to counter the media narrative.

    Spencer said lots of interesting things, powerful things.

    He said Hail Victory and Hail Trump at the end, but I don't think he was trying to be Nazi.

    He was certainly trolling 'Nazi bad boy' enfant-terrible-ism, but that is what the media expect and demand of him. He played along, wink wink.

    But the Hail things goes way back to Roman times.

    Anyway, I'm glad he played the 'bad boy' part to some degree because the media would have spun him as evil guy even if he gave a nice kindly speech. You cannot win with the media megaphone. Look how the media is spinning everything to deface Trump at every turn. If the media are gonna shi* on y0u, you might as well play shi*lord.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-LnO2DOGE
  79. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    The bits that have emerged today make it seem the event devolved into something like the "Dance of the Devils" scene in Mephisto (the indy flic which got the AA in the early 80s). My gut tells me that Spencer, while too extreme in his positions, is more simply lacking in judgement. There's a chance he's a saboteur himself, but there are certainly leftist saboteurs around him. Perhaps he got drunk on all his newfound celebrity, and just frickin lost his mind. If he wanted to hobble opposition to the Democrats & breathe life into the Hive's strawman caricature of the alt-right (or paleo right), he would certainly keep doing what he did this wkend.

    Consider:

    -the fate of Pim Fortuyn & Theo Van Gogh, and that a good many leftists have drunk the "nationalism = pure evil" kool-aid to justify murder

    -that most European nationalist party leaders live essentially like they are in a witness protection program (or with so much extra security you might as well be Rapunzel or the Pope)

    -the mob violence unleashed by DNC pacs on Trump rallies, and exposed by Project Veritas

    -at least 2 likely Trump assassination attempts were narrowly averted since April

    -the obvious leftist plants at certain early Trump rallies who were instructed to act the part of the dumbest redneck archetype, w/ fawning media attention in news reports

    -the corruption & weaponization of state & federal tax agencies resulting in harassment of California Prop 8 supporters, and harassment of Tea Party groups

    -the ongoing MSM hysteria, and the creeping legitimization of threats & violence towards both Trump supporters, the electoral college, and anyone with the temerity to even be diplomatic towards Trump.

    -the obedient reporting by the msm that even moderate immigration restrictionist groups like FAIR are SPLC-designated “hate” groups

    -the Left’s increasing intolerance for freedom of speech, freedom of association & freedom of assembly

    -that there are tens of millions in leftist agitator money sloshing around, and the ruthlessness of Soros at backing revolutionary movements abroad is well known.

    Then consider:
    -the NPI decided to go straight into one of the biggest lefty hornets nests of DC, w/ what seems like only mild precautions, apparently broadcasting their schedule live, even though leftist plants would be able to assist external saboteurs anyway.

    -the adolescent hooting during part of the proceedings capped off by inflammatory rhetoric & drunken frat boy reenactments of a pre WW2 political rally ( a wet dream to the media: “Ah, our worst fears confirmed!”)

    My take: Spencer is now officially radioactive. He has embarrassed the more reasonable & level headed people who agreed to attend his conference, and his influence, while miniscule before, is now zero.

    Like you can ignore the massive demographic tsunami that is about to hit.

    The White Cuck Lite types such as yourself are in for a very rude awakening.

  80. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Diversity Heretic
    Donald Trump, as nearly as I can divine, still believes in some form of American civic nationalism; he does not support white nationalism and is probably mostly puzzled by it. A partition of the U.S., with a portion being a white homeland is probably inconceivable, and highly unpatriotic, for him. What is interesting is that the New York Times equates Donald Trump with the Alt-Right; it is the reason that they hate and fear a man that they otherwise derided as a clown and a buffoon. Donald Trump has, possibly without knowing and intending it, ignited white racial consciousness and given it a focus. Whites sense that they are being racially dispossessed from their homeland, although most of them can't yet articulate it in those terms. But they somehow believe that Trump is on their side, which may or may not be true (I hope it is), and he may or may not be able to deliver; given the forces arrayed against him, I fear that he will fail, although not for lack of trying. One of the interviewees in the Times's article correctly articulates why the Alt-Right celebrates the victory of Donald Trump: it gives us time to raise the consciousness of white people and limit the migration of non-whites into the U.S. A Hillary Clinton victory would have flooded the U.S. with non-whites before white racial consciousness was raised sufficiently to offer effective resistance.

    I think that the alt-right has little influence, Trump won the highest in states that voted for Gary Johnson not that Confederate flying states. Trump did the best in the plains while he did just ok in the South. In fact, immigration is an issue and I think he will helped but there is a right wing movement from the farm areas many are not alt-right or neo-confederate. In most of the plain states from North Dakota to Oklahoma Trump got higher totals than many of the southern states as a percentage of the voting population. Trump did about 52 percent in Texas and 65 percent in Oklahoma. In fact there is a moved toward libertarian-rural rather than the old south big government defense like Huntsville Alabama. Whites will grow again if they are told to go to Oklahoma and not Texas as much since Oklahoma is basically cheaper now than most of the big urban areas of Texas like Houston, Austin, and Dallas.

  81. @rw95
    And how many ubermensch white children have you brought into the world yet?
    I always see a whole lot of talk, but I never see any action from you types.
    "White" is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble.

    “And how many ubermensch white children have you brought into the world yet?”

    More than enough to replace my wife and me.

    Btw, do you make Nazi references to Jews when they talk about Israel and preserving the Jewish people? Didn’t think so.

    “I always see a whole lot of talk, but I never see any action from you types.”

    I’ve already start to join groups that can easily be turned into European American-identity groups in the future. (Sooner or later, other whites will wake up and we’ll have some infrastructure in place.)

    ““White” is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble.”

    Genetic research – and the Theory of Evolution – disagrees.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but genetic researchers have long acknowledged races. They just call them population groups to save their jobs. They also very, very, very, very quietly acknowledge differences in a variety of physical attributes among those various races. They know the truth, but they like their jobs more.

    Buddy, you don’t have a problem with me, you have a problem with Mother Nature or God.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    I’ve already start to join groups that can easily be turned into European American-identity groups in the future. (Sooner or later, other whites will wake up and we’ll have some infrastructure in place.)

    Can you recommend some kinds of groups?
  82. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "And how many ubermensch white children have you brought into the world yet?"

    More than enough to replace my wife and me.

    Btw, do you make Nazi references to Jews when they talk about Israel and preserving the Jewish people? Didn't think so.

    "I always see a whole lot of talk, but I never see any action from you types."

    I've already start to join groups that can easily be turned into European American-identity groups in the future. (Sooner or later, other whites will wake up and we'll have some infrastructure in place.)

    "“White” is not a race, an ethnicity or a culture. I hate to burst your bubble."

    Genetic research - and the Theory of Evolution - disagrees.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but genetic researchers have long acknowledged races. They just call them population groups to save their jobs. They also very, very, very, very quietly acknowledge differences in a variety of physical attributes among those various races. They know the truth, but they like their jobs more.

    Buddy, you don't have a problem with me, you have a problem with Mother Nature or God.

    I’ve already start to join groups that can easily be turned into European American-identity groups in the future. (Sooner or later, other whites will wake up and we’ll have some infrastructure in place.)

    Can you recommend some kinds of groups?

  83. @Opinionator
    And because Spencer has laid claim to and now poisoned the Alt Right, Team Trump now needs to distance itself from the Alt Right, as well. The rest of us do, too, unfortunately. Spencer is finished. NPI is finished. The Alt Right is finished.

    The practical impact of this will be even more far reaching if it pushes Team Trump to actually move left on substantive policies in order to lend credibility to its distancing. This may happen without their really even being conscious of it.

    Unbelievable.

    Part of the reason for his success was that he didn’t caved in like a typical conservative in response to the usual baseless ad-hominem and guilt by association leftists spew. And he has no tangible connection to the alt right (which is basically a twitter hashtag). He should keep ignoring the media histrionics. But for any “alt right” types looking to mainstream their cause, it’s indeed over.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    But for any “alt right” types looking to mainstream their cause, it’s indeed over.

    One silver lining--it may be just as well that "alt right" were retired. We need to lay claim the center anyway.

  84. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Opinionator
    Anyway, the MSM highlighted the Alt Right to use it to smear Trump. They thought Alt Right would act like a bunch of Neo-Nazis, but in fact, most Alt Right people made cogent and sensible arguments. MSM realized how their smear campaign had backfired. Alt Right didn’t take the bait and act like Hollywood KKK or Nazis. They spoke more truth than the MSM.

    So, now the MSM is reversing its policy and trying to shut down all Alt Right voices.


    But now the Alt Right has taken the bait. Or Spencer posing as an Alt Right leader has effectively taken it for them.

    No, Spencer gave a splendid speech.

    But the media spun it as ‘heil hitler’, but then the media do this all the time.

    Buchanan gave a rousing speech in 92, but the media turned into ‘neo-McCarthyism’.

    Back then, there was no internet to counter the media narrative.

    Spencer said lots of interesting things, powerful things.

    He said Hail Victory and Hail Trump at the end, but I don’t think he was trying to be Nazi.

    He was certainly trolling ‘Nazi bad boy’ enfant-terrible-ism, but that is what the media expect and demand of him. He played along, wink wink.

    But the Hail things goes way back to Roman times.

    Anyway, I’m glad he played the ‘bad boy’ part to some degree because the media would have spun him as evil guy even if he gave a nice kindly speech. You cannot win with the media megaphone. Look how the media is spinning everything to deface Trump at every turn. If the media are gonna shi* on y0u, you might as well play shi*lord.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Leave "trolling" to the Nazi weebs on 4chan or twitter, don't give the media any reason to characterize you as 14/88 idiot and their hysteria will look flat. Obviously he's more interested in self-promotion though. Being media's "go-to guy" for scary "neo-Nazis" like David Duke has been.
  85. @Marcus
    Part of the reason for his success was that he didn't caved in like a typical conservative in response to the usual baseless ad-hominem and guilt by association leftists spew. And he has no tangible connection to the alt right (which is basically a twitter hashtag). He should keep ignoring the media histrionics. But for any "alt right" types looking to mainstream their cause, it's indeed over.

    But for any “alt right” types looking to mainstream their cause, it’s indeed over.

    One silver lining–it may be just as well that “alt right” were retired. We need to lay claim the center anyway.

    • Replies: @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Would say another silver lining is that Spencer can be noted as a cautionary tale on the perils of hubris & naivete.
    The speech itself is alright, at least the first 27 mins are mostly cogent. He tends towards these vaguely devilish smirks which don't help his cause, and the whopper at 4:30, that "we willed Donald Trump into office" is delusional. After 27:20 mins, he is on ever thinner ice.....could have done with a major rewrite. Of course, whites/Europeans want honesty, balance, fairness, to be left alone to pursue happiness. etc. But he is too quick to dismiss the contributions of nonwhites, and he tries to push the right frame of the Overton window so far that you can hear a cracking sound, such that by 31:00 he begins to careen into the ether. By the time he admonished the crowd to get drunk, I had forgotten the contents of the speech, realizing he had just blown the whole thing up with his juvenile finale.

    The big void in Spencer's analysis is that many Trump voters proceeded with great hesistancy, being acutely concerned about social stigma. Some coworkers who I encouraged to vote Trump were initially shell shocked at his early comments. They may have known he was correct deep down, but the size of the "red pills" were scary big. If people like Spencer are allowed to make the tentative swing voters regret their decision, the MSM will regain control of the narrative.

    What needs to be impressed on all the Dissident Right is that the recent win was razor thin, with 4 states taken by a hair. It is just a narrow reprieve from a destiny as a Brazilian-style one party dystopia. The Neocons, Media-Edu complex & DEMS are regrouping for a counter attack. There is room for a brief pause to catch breathe, but nothing has yet been accomplished to reverse the bad policies of the past 40 yrs. Only 52 GOP Senators. No Cabinet confirmed. No SCOTUS appnts. No border wall. Not a goddamed thing. And if you remember the 1994 victory, an election win can leave you empty handed, if your follow-up strategy is weak. There is no second chance for patriots right now. If we fumble the ball in the next year, it may well be over for good.
  86. I’ve been a big fan of Richard Spencer for many years, his original Alternative Right site played a big role in me growing out of libertarianism. It was also nice to have a young man as a White activist, as the other major ones are usually old men who remember pre-1968 America.

    I am both surprised and unsurprised by the ending of Spencer’s speech. Surprised because Spencer has shown restraint in the past. One reason for ending Alternative Right and starting Radix Journal was to separate himself from Colin Liddell’s occasionally incendiary writing. Unsurprised because he has shown a disturbing desire for attention recently. He also seems to have a reckless ambition of being a revolutionary leader and wants to rush things rather than wait for the right circumstances.

    I’m cautiously optimistic this will have no effect on Trump. The media already tried this before with David Duke before Super Tuesday, and Trump brushed it off and his supporters ignored it.

    As for Spencer, maybe he will bounce back in the future. Another notable leader bounced back from a debacle in November 1923.

    • Replies: @Avery
    {Another notable leader bounced back from a debacle in November 1923.}

    Another notable leader bounced back alright. But he bounced right into insanity and ended up committing suicide, but only after he brought massive death and destruction to the country he led. In the end the insane man was planning for the complete destruction of German people for "betraying" him.

    Hopefully Spencer, who is already insane, will commit suicide before he brings nuclear destruction to US.

  87. If you do not like this just wait until the white guys realize who pays for the bullshit of the left.

  88. @Mick
    I've been a big fan of Richard Spencer for many years, his original Alternative Right site played a big role in me growing out of libertarianism. It was also nice to have a young man as a White activist, as the other major ones are usually old men who remember pre-1968 America.

    I am both surprised and unsurprised by the ending of Spencer's speech. Surprised because Spencer has shown restraint in the past. One reason for ending Alternative Right and starting Radix Journal was to separate himself from Colin Liddell's occasionally incendiary writing. Unsurprised because he has shown a disturbing desire for attention recently. He also seems to have a reckless ambition of being a revolutionary leader and wants to rush things rather than wait for the right circumstances.

    I'm cautiously optimistic this will have no effect on Trump. The media already tried this before with David Duke before Super Tuesday, and Trump brushed it off and his supporters ignored it.

    As for Spencer, maybe he will bounce back in the future. Another notable leader bounced back from a debacle in November 1923.

    {Another notable leader bounced back from a debacle in November 1923.}

    Another notable leader bounced back alright. But he bounced right into insanity and ended up committing suicide, but only after he brought massive death and destruction to the country he led. In the end the insane man was planning for the complete destruction of German people for “betraying” him.

    Hopefully Spencer, who is already insane, will commit suicide before he brings nuclear destruction to US.

  89. @Opinionator
    But for any “alt right” types looking to mainstream their cause, it’s indeed over.

    One silver lining--it may be just as well that "alt right" were retired. We need to lay claim the center anyway.

    Would say another silver lining is that Spencer can be noted as a cautionary tale on the perils of hubris & naivete.
    The speech itself is alright, at least the first 27 mins are mostly cogent. He tends towards these vaguely devilish smirks which don’t help his cause, and the whopper at 4:30, that “we willed Donald Trump into office” is delusional. After 27:20 mins, he is on ever thinner ice…..could have done with a major rewrite. Of course, whites/Europeans want honesty, balance, fairness, to be left alone to pursue happiness. etc. But he is too quick to dismiss the contributions of nonwhites, and he tries to push the right frame of the Overton window so far that you can hear a cracking sound, such that by 31:00 he begins to careen into the ether. By the time he admonished the crowd to get drunk, I had forgotten the contents of the speech, realizing he had just blown the whole thing up with his juvenile finale.

    The big void in Spencer’s analysis is that many Trump voters proceeded with great hesistancy, being acutely concerned about social stigma. Some coworkers who I encouraged to vote Trump were initially shell shocked at his early comments. They may have known he was correct deep down, but the size of the “red pills” were scary big. If people like Spencer are allowed to make the tentative swing voters regret their decision, the MSM will regain control of the narrative.

    What needs to be impressed on all the Dissident Right is that the recent win was razor thin, with 4 states taken by a hair. It is just a narrow reprieve from a destiny as a Brazilian-style one party dystopia. The Neocons, Media-Edu complex & DEMS are regrouping for a counter attack. There is room for a brief pause to catch breathe, but nothing has yet been accomplished to reverse the bad policies of the past 40 yrs. Only 52 GOP Senators. No Cabinet confirmed. No SCOTUS appnts. No border wall. Not a goddamed thing. And if you remember the 1994 victory, an election win can leave you empty handed, if your follow-up strategy is weak. There is no second chance for patriots right now. If we fumble the ball in the next year, it may well be over for good.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Well said.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Very astute comment: a reprieve is the most that the Trump victory has bought us. Years ago I read a book, Steering the Elephant, a collection of essays from first-term Reagan Administration about the resistance that they encountered in implementing Ronald Reagan's agenda. Some succeeded, although they admitted that the success was tempered and limited; others failed. Some people went native in the bureaucracy they were supposed to reform. The resistance to Donald Trump will be many times greater than that to Ronald Reagan and Reagan won over Jimmy Carter by a large margin, not a razor-thin one. I forecast stormy weather.
  90. @Anon
    No, Spencer gave a splendid speech.

    But the media spun it as 'heil hitler', but then the media do this all the time.

    Buchanan gave a rousing speech in 92, but the media turned into 'neo-McCarthyism'.

    Back then, there was no internet to counter the media narrative.

    Spencer said lots of interesting things, powerful things.

    He said Hail Victory and Hail Trump at the end, but I don't think he was trying to be Nazi.

    He was certainly trolling 'Nazi bad boy' enfant-terrible-ism, but that is what the media expect and demand of him. He played along, wink wink.

    But the Hail things goes way back to Roman times.

    Anyway, I'm glad he played the 'bad boy' part to some degree because the media would have spun him as evil guy even if he gave a nice kindly speech. You cannot win with the media megaphone. Look how the media is spinning everything to deface Trump at every turn. If the media are gonna shi* on y0u, you might as well play shi*lord.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-LnO2DOGE

    Leave “trolling” to the Nazi weebs on 4chan or twitter, don’t give the media any reason to characterize you as 14/88 idiot and their hysteria will look flat. Obviously he’s more interested in self-promotion though. Being media’s “go-to guy” for scary “neo-Nazis” like David Duke has been.

  91. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Would say another silver lining is that Spencer can be noted as a cautionary tale on the perils of hubris & naivete.
    The speech itself is alright, at least the first 27 mins are mostly cogent. He tends towards these vaguely devilish smirks which don't help his cause, and the whopper at 4:30, that "we willed Donald Trump into office" is delusional. After 27:20 mins, he is on ever thinner ice.....could have done with a major rewrite. Of course, whites/Europeans want honesty, balance, fairness, to be left alone to pursue happiness. etc. But he is too quick to dismiss the contributions of nonwhites, and he tries to push the right frame of the Overton window so far that you can hear a cracking sound, such that by 31:00 he begins to careen into the ether. By the time he admonished the crowd to get drunk, I had forgotten the contents of the speech, realizing he had just blown the whole thing up with his juvenile finale.

    The big void in Spencer's analysis is that many Trump voters proceeded with great hesistancy, being acutely concerned about social stigma. Some coworkers who I encouraged to vote Trump were initially shell shocked at his early comments. They may have known he was correct deep down, but the size of the "red pills" were scary big. If people like Spencer are allowed to make the tentative swing voters regret their decision, the MSM will regain control of the narrative.

    What needs to be impressed on all the Dissident Right is that the recent win was razor thin, with 4 states taken by a hair. It is just a narrow reprieve from a destiny as a Brazilian-style one party dystopia. The Neocons, Media-Edu complex & DEMS are regrouping for a counter attack. There is room for a brief pause to catch breathe, but nothing has yet been accomplished to reverse the bad policies of the past 40 yrs. Only 52 GOP Senators. No Cabinet confirmed. No SCOTUS appnts. No border wall. Not a goddamed thing. And if you remember the 1994 victory, an election win can leave you empty handed, if your follow-up strategy is weak. There is no second chance for patriots right now. If we fumble the ball in the next year, it may well be over for good.

    Well said.

  92. Reader’s Digest version:

    Feminism? Liberating!

    Black/Chicano Pride? Uplifting!

    Gay Pride? Fabulous!

    White Pride? EVIL RACIST HITLER RACIST!!!! DIE DIE DIE!!!! RACIST DIE!!!!!

  93. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Would say another silver lining is that Spencer can be noted as a cautionary tale on the perils of hubris & naivete.
    The speech itself is alright, at least the first 27 mins are mostly cogent. He tends towards these vaguely devilish smirks which don't help his cause, and the whopper at 4:30, that "we willed Donald Trump into office" is delusional. After 27:20 mins, he is on ever thinner ice.....could have done with a major rewrite. Of course, whites/Europeans want honesty, balance, fairness, to be left alone to pursue happiness. etc. But he is too quick to dismiss the contributions of nonwhites, and he tries to push the right frame of the Overton window so far that you can hear a cracking sound, such that by 31:00 he begins to careen into the ether. By the time he admonished the crowd to get drunk, I had forgotten the contents of the speech, realizing he had just blown the whole thing up with his juvenile finale.

    The big void in Spencer's analysis is that many Trump voters proceeded with great hesistancy, being acutely concerned about social stigma. Some coworkers who I encouraged to vote Trump were initially shell shocked at his early comments. They may have known he was correct deep down, but the size of the "red pills" were scary big. If people like Spencer are allowed to make the tentative swing voters regret their decision, the MSM will regain control of the narrative.

    What needs to be impressed on all the Dissident Right is that the recent win was razor thin, with 4 states taken by a hair. It is just a narrow reprieve from a destiny as a Brazilian-style one party dystopia. The Neocons, Media-Edu complex & DEMS are regrouping for a counter attack. There is room for a brief pause to catch breathe, but nothing has yet been accomplished to reverse the bad policies of the past 40 yrs. Only 52 GOP Senators. No Cabinet confirmed. No SCOTUS appnts. No border wall. Not a goddamed thing. And if you remember the 1994 victory, an election win can leave you empty handed, if your follow-up strategy is weak. There is no second chance for patriots right now. If we fumble the ball in the next year, it may well be over for good.

    Very astute comment: a reprieve is the most that the Trump victory has bought us. Years ago I read a book, Steering the Elephant, a collection of essays from first-term Reagan Administration about the resistance that they encountered in implementing Ronald Reagan’s agenda. Some succeeded, although they admitted that the success was tempered and limited; others failed. Some people went native in the bureaucracy they were supposed to reform. The resistance to Donald Trump will be many times greater than that to Ronald Reagan and Reagan won over Jimmy Carter by a large margin, not a razor-thin one. I forecast stormy weather.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    Agree 100%. You're speaking plenty of wisdom here, DH. I'm not sure many of the commenters here understand what resistance and went native in the bureaucracy really mean. The expert, cover-my-butt bureaucratic gamesman can, for example, feign enormous enthusiasm for Trump's Wall and insist on an aggressively budgeted "demonstration Wall" of 10 or 20 miles so enormously costly that he knows even pro-Wall enthusiasts will back off as they get distracted by other issues. I've seen popinjay political hacks in my local area get swallowed up and spit out because they thought they had a lot more authority than they actually did. Happy Thanksgiving all.
    , @Ivy
    Speaking of elephants, Jonathan Haidt incorporated them into his book The Righteous Mind. He said "The mind is divided, like a rider on an elephant, and the rider's job is to serve the elephant". That meant that the rider is our conscious mind and that the elephant is the other 99% of mental processes. A terrific book to help understand our times and ourselves.
  94. @Diversity Heretic
    Very astute comment: a reprieve is the most that the Trump victory has bought us. Years ago I read a book, Steering the Elephant, a collection of essays from first-term Reagan Administration about the resistance that they encountered in implementing Ronald Reagan's agenda. Some succeeded, although they admitted that the success was tempered and limited; others failed. Some people went native in the bureaucracy they were supposed to reform. The resistance to Donald Trump will be many times greater than that to Ronald Reagan and Reagan won over Jimmy Carter by a large margin, not a razor-thin one. I forecast stormy weather.

    Agree 100%. You’re speaking plenty of wisdom here, DH. I’m not sure many of the commenters here understand what resistance and went native in the bureaucracy really mean. The expert, cover-my-butt bureaucratic gamesman can, for example, feign enormous enthusiasm for Trump’s Wall and insist on an aggressively budgeted “demonstration Wall” of 10 or 20 miles so enormously costly that he knows even pro-Wall enthusiasts will back off as they get distracted by other issues. I’ve seen popinjay political hacks in my local area get swallowed up and spit out because they thought they had a lot more authority than they actually did. Happy Thanksgiving all.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Thanks Jack. I spent nine years on Capitol Hill and seven years in an independent regulatory commission and I saw examples of what the career civil servants can do to derail a President's agenda. I often said that the key person was at the level of the assistant secretary or (assistant administrator in the case of EPA): that's where the politicals meet the career staff. Have a Happy Thanksgiving yourself!
    , @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Agreed. As challenging as it was to help propel DJT to the election win, it will be take even more effort & stamina to get his policies enacted. Many citizen journalists & allies have had an almost sugar high reaction to the win, verging on an over-stimulated Beavis euphoria.

    The HIVE is already trying to flatter DJT with promises of kinder coverage if he will start watering down his policies. It has only been 2 weeks since the win. We need to minimize the HIVE's access to DJT.
  95. @JackOH
    Agree 100%. You're speaking plenty of wisdom here, DH. I'm not sure many of the commenters here understand what resistance and went native in the bureaucracy really mean. The expert, cover-my-butt bureaucratic gamesman can, for example, feign enormous enthusiasm for Trump's Wall and insist on an aggressively budgeted "demonstration Wall" of 10 or 20 miles so enormously costly that he knows even pro-Wall enthusiasts will back off as they get distracted by other issues. I've seen popinjay political hacks in my local area get swallowed up and spit out because they thought they had a lot more authority than they actually did. Happy Thanksgiving all.

    Thanks Jack. I spent nine years on Capitol Hill and seven years in an independent regulatory commission and I saw examples of what the career civil servants can do to derail a President’s agenda. I often said that the key person was at the level of the assistant secretary or (assistant administrator in the case of EPA): that’s where the politicals meet the career staff. Have a Happy Thanksgiving yourself!

    • Replies: @Ivan K.
    Trump's extensive experience in micromanaging, and his drive to do it, could play a big role in detecting and eliminating career civil servants, don't you think?
    (It basically remains to be seen, of course.)
  96. @Diversity Heretic
    Very astute comment: a reprieve is the most that the Trump victory has bought us. Years ago I read a book, Steering the Elephant, a collection of essays from first-term Reagan Administration about the resistance that they encountered in implementing Ronald Reagan's agenda. Some succeeded, although they admitted that the success was tempered and limited; others failed. Some people went native in the bureaucracy they were supposed to reform. The resistance to Donald Trump will be many times greater than that to Ronald Reagan and Reagan won over Jimmy Carter by a large margin, not a razor-thin one. I forecast stormy weather.

    Speaking of elephants, Jonathan Haidt incorporated them into his book The Righteous Mind. He said “The mind is divided, like a rider on an elephant, and the rider’s job is to serve the elephant”. That meant that the rider is our conscious mind and that the elephant is the other 99% of mental processes. A terrific book to help understand our times and ourselves.

  97. @Colleen Pater
    All we can say is race realism is factually correct so it will triumph theres a small window of opportunity for jews to get on the right side of reality if they dont do it soon loud and proud well we all know what happens when jewish treachery gets exposed in saxon nations. Many of us on the dissident right alt right and neo reaction are hoping the jews will flip All i can say is do it soon do it really clearly get on the record as white defenders of westerncivilization and its peoples facing genocide by leftism multiculturalism frankly youre going to have to own a lot of it to make any flip credible

    This is interesting. The Jews occupy a no-man’s land. They’re white but they’re Jews. Lots of American Jews have been brought up to think of themselves as white, know more about church and Christianity than Judaism and are intermarrying so fast that the percentage of American Jews is going down faster than the percentage of Latinos and Asians are going up.

    So when you come looking for Jews, you’ll find blonde, blue-eyed Abe Cohen who runs the local shoe store and whose kids go to the YMCA summer camp with the other kids.

    So run Abe and his family out of town (or worse), take over the shoe store and the white nationalist ethnostate comes into being. Problem solved.

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    Indeed Ashkenazi jews even without marrying the goy next dorm at Harvard, are found to be genetically 60% Italian on the mitochondrial side, seeing as Italy has the highest IQ in Europe (yeah i know who knew) this explains a lot.And as you point out are marrying out rapidly. The european jew certainly has made as great a contribution to western civilization as any other group, and of course we share the book religiously.Unfortunately this also works against jews particularly in america. It defines you as race traitors, one always kills the traitor before the enemy.The problem is jews refuse to see themselves as fully 'white' a 1/8 jew is still walking around with a chip on his shoulder that he uses to justify working against white interests in white nations. If 2% of the population were not controlling 50% of the wealth and power this could be shrugged off, but in reality its the power that has made the difference thats brought western civilization to the precipice of collapse, and people are starting to notice both the chasm below and whos pushing them from behind. So far this is not a populist uprising it is only the people firing management and insisting on an end to theocracy [slave morality, the denouement of the Cromwellian revolution] and an insistence of reality based good governance. If elites continue to push back even passive aggressively there will be blood.flipping elites from multiculturalism and political correctness is the bloodless path forward, but the cycle is ending one way or another.Blue eyed blond haired Jews are not hard to find precisely because they keep track of themselves so well, to be clear if it comes to it jews will not be the only elites to answer for their crimes but other whites can afford to lose 2% of our elite population can the jews afford to lose the diaspora? Keep in mind Trump is certainly not the uber mensch he is only John the Baptiste, He is preparing the way and laid the axe at the root, it is hard to say how long before the one who will judge what is bearing good fruit and what must be cast into the fire will arise.One thing is certain he is on his way.
  98. @Diversity Heretic
    Thanks Jack. I spent nine years on Capitol Hill and seven years in an independent regulatory commission and I saw examples of what the career civil servants can do to derail a President's agenda. I often said that the key person was at the level of the assistant secretary or (assistant administrator in the case of EPA): that's where the politicals meet the career staff. Have a Happy Thanksgiving yourself!

    Trump’s extensive experience in micromanaging, and his drive to do it, could play a big role in detecting and eliminating career civil servants, don’t you think?
    (It basically remains to be seen, of course.)

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Given the protections that civil servants have (e.g., all sorts of procedures need to be followed before they can be fired, appeals to the Merit Systems Protection Board), "eliminating" them is nearly impossible. The best practice, according to the people who wrote the essays in Steering the Elephant, is to identify the civil servants who are sympathetic to the changes, and work through them. That wasn't easy in the Reagan Administration and Trump is less popular than Ronald Reagan.

    Micromanaging can be dangerous for a President--the best example is Jimmy Carter, a very intelligent man who dissipated his energies and influence in micromanaging. My advice to Trump, as it would be to any President--pick four or five top issues and focus your energy in getting your agenda implemented there. The rest will have to be delegated to others; the reason that personnel is policy.
  99. Ku Klux Klan hated Blacks but not Jews because later were part of the Ku Klux Klan. However, some of its leaders were critical of Jewish media and Jewish control of US government.

    But then the Organized Jewry is fond of discovering antisemitism in everything it’s not happy with. Now it has claimed that even ‘Pepe the Frog’ also hate Jews – despite the fact Jewish rabbis teach hatred towards all non-Jews…

    On September 29, 2016, Oren Segal, director Israel lobby ADL in an Op-Ed at British daily Guardian declared Pepe the Frog, the cartoon being antisemite just like the Hindu religious symbol Swastika.

    “It may seem more than a little strange that the image of a cartoon frog could end up alongside such infamous symbols as the Blood Drop Cross of Ku Klux Klan. But the evolution of the Pepe the Frog actually illustrates a key aspect of hate symbol: many such images do not actually begin as hate symbols,” wrote Segal……

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/10/05/adl-pepe-the-frog-hates-jews/

  100. @JackOH
    Agree 100%. You're speaking plenty of wisdom here, DH. I'm not sure many of the commenters here understand what resistance and went native in the bureaucracy really mean. The expert, cover-my-butt bureaucratic gamesman can, for example, feign enormous enthusiasm for Trump's Wall and insist on an aggressively budgeted "demonstration Wall" of 10 or 20 miles so enormously costly that he knows even pro-Wall enthusiasts will back off as they get distracted by other issues. I've seen popinjay political hacks in my local area get swallowed up and spit out because they thought they had a lot more authority than they actually did. Happy Thanksgiving all.

    Agreed. As challenging as it was to help propel DJT to the election win, it will be take even more effort & stamina to get his policies enacted. Many citizen journalists & allies have had an almost sugar high reaction to the win, verging on an over-stimulated Beavis euphoria.

    The HIVE is already trying to flatter DJT with promises of kinder coverage if he will start watering down his policies. It has only been 2 weeks since the win. We need to minimize the HIVE’s access to DJT.

  101. @Ivan K.
    Trump's extensive experience in micromanaging, and his drive to do it, could play a big role in detecting and eliminating career civil servants, don't you think?
    (It basically remains to be seen, of course.)

    Given the protections that civil servants have (e.g., all sorts of procedures need to be followed before they can be fired, appeals to the Merit Systems Protection Board), “eliminating” them is nearly impossible. The best practice, according to the people who wrote the essays in Steering the Elephant, is to identify the civil servants who are sympathetic to the changes, and work through them. That wasn’t easy in the Reagan Administration and Trump is less popular than Ronald Reagan.

    Micromanaging can be dangerous for a President–the best example is Jimmy Carter, a very intelligent man who dissipated his energies and influence in micromanaging. My advice to Trump, as it would be to any President–pick four or five top issues and focus your energy in getting your agenda implemented there. The rest will have to be delegated to others; the reason that personnel is policy.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    " . . . [I]dentify the civil servants who are sympathetic to the changes, and work through them."

    " . . .[P]ick four or five top issues and focus your energy in getting your agenda implemented there."

    Agree 100%.

    (My experience is with state university bureaucrats. They're often crony-and-patronage layabouts who can quash ideas and people. They control the campus police department (mostly), and they have enough influence within the city prosecutor's office to credibly threaten prosecution of those who cross them. They're tough, nasty SOBs who contribute little to what most people think of as education.)
  102. ” a very intelligent man”

    Congratulations, you have just won the ” Most absurd statement of the day” award.

    Authenticjazzman, ” Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

  103. @Diversity Heretic
    Given the protections that civil servants have (e.g., all sorts of procedures need to be followed before they can be fired, appeals to the Merit Systems Protection Board), "eliminating" them is nearly impossible. The best practice, according to the people who wrote the essays in Steering the Elephant, is to identify the civil servants who are sympathetic to the changes, and work through them. That wasn't easy in the Reagan Administration and Trump is less popular than Ronald Reagan.

    Micromanaging can be dangerous for a President--the best example is Jimmy Carter, a very intelligent man who dissipated his energies and influence in micromanaging. My advice to Trump, as it would be to any President--pick four or five top issues and focus your energy in getting your agenda implemented there. The rest will have to be delegated to others; the reason that personnel is policy.

    ” . . . [I]dentify the civil servants who are sympathetic to the changes, and work through them.”

    ” . . .[P]ick four or five top issues and focus your energy in getting your agenda implemented there.”

    Agree 100%.

    (My experience is with state university bureaucrats. They’re often crony-and-patronage layabouts who can quash ideas and people. They control the campus police department (mostly), and they have enough influence within the city prosecutor’s office to credibly threaten prosecution of those who cross them. They’re tough, nasty SOBs who contribute little to what most people think of as education.)

  104. @imbroglio
    This is interesting. The Jews occupy a no-man's land. They're white but they're Jews. Lots of American Jews have been brought up to think of themselves as white, know more about church and Christianity than Judaism and are intermarrying so fast that the percentage of American Jews is going down faster than the percentage of Latinos and Asians are going up.

    So when you come looking for Jews, you'll find blonde, blue-eyed Abe Cohen who runs the local shoe store and whose kids go to the YMCA summer camp with the other kids.

    So run Abe and his family out of town (or worse), take over the shoe store and the white nationalist ethnostate comes into being. Problem solved.

    Indeed Ashkenazi jews even without marrying the goy next dorm at Harvard, are found to be genetically 60% Italian on the mitochondrial side, seeing as Italy has the highest IQ in Europe (yeah i know who knew) this explains a lot.And as you point out are marrying out rapidly. The european jew certainly has made as great a contribution to western civilization as any other group, and of course we share the book religiously.Unfortunately this also works against jews particularly in america. It defines you as race traitors, one always kills the traitor before the enemy.The problem is jews refuse to see themselves as fully ‘white’ a 1/8 jew is still walking around with a chip on his shoulder that he uses to justify working against white interests in white nations. If 2% of the population were not controlling 50% of the wealth and power this could be shrugged off, but in reality its the power that has made the difference thats brought western civilization to the precipice of collapse, and people are starting to notice both the chasm below and whos pushing them from behind. So far this is not a populist uprising it is only the people firing management and insisting on an end to theocracy [slave morality, the denouement of the Cromwellian revolution] and an insistence of reality based good governance. If elites continue to push back even passive aggressively there will be blood.flipping elites from multiculturalism and political correctness is the bloodless path forward, but the cycle is ending one way or another.Blue eyed blond haired Jews are not hard to find precisely because they keep track of themselves so well, to be clear if it comes to it jews will not be the only elites to answer for their crimes but other whites can afford to lose 2% of our elite population can the jews afford to lose the diaspora? Keep in mind Trump is certainly not the uber mensch he is only John the Baptiste, He is preparing the way and laid the axe at the root, it is hard to say how long before the one who will judge what is bearing good fruit and what must be cast into the fire will arise.One thing is certain he is on his way.

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    Indeed Ashkenazi jews even without marrying the goy next dorm at Harvard, are found to be genetically 60% Italian on the mitochondrial side, seeing as Italy has the highest IQ in Europe (yeah i know who knew) this explains a lot.And as you point out are marrying out rapidly.

    That "Italian" portion is Southern Italian, which is a Mediterranean/Berber/Arab mix. The Northern Italians have the high IQs.
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    @Colleen Pater
    Indeed Ashkenazi jews even without marrying the goy next dorm at Harvard, are found to be genetically 60% Italian on the mitochondrial side, seeing as Italy has the highest IQ in Europe (yeah i know who knew) this explains a lot.And as you point out are marrying out rapidly. The european jew certainly has made as great a contribution to western civilization as any other group, and of course we share the book religiously.Unfortunately this also works against jews particularly in america. It defines you as race traitors, one always kills the traitor before the enemy.The problem is jews refuse to see themselves as fully 'white' a 1/8 jew is still walking around with a chip on his shoulder that he uses to justify working against white interests in white nations. If 2% of the population were not controlling 50% of the wealth and power this could be shrugged off, but in reality its the power that has made the difference thats brought western civilization to the precipice of collapse, and people are starting to notice both the chasm below and whos pushing them from behind. So far this is not a populist uprising it is only the people firing management and insisting on an end to theocracy [slave morality, the denouement of the Cromwellian revolution] and an insistence of reality based good governance. If elites continue to push back even passive aggressively there will be blood.flipping elites from multiculturalism and political correctness is the bloodless path forward, but the cycle is ending one way or another.Blue eyed blond haired Jews are not hard to find precisely because they keep track of themselves so well, to be clear if it comes to it jews will not be the only elites to answer for their crimes but other whites can afford to lose 2% of our elite population can the jews afford to lose the diaspora? Keep in mind Trump is certainly not the uber mensch he is only John the Baptiste, He is preparing the way and laid the axe at the root, it is hard to say how long before the one who will judge what is bearing good fruit and what must be cast into the fire will arise.One thing is certain he is on his way.

    Indeed Ashkenazi jews even without marrying the goy next dorm at Harvard, are found to be genetically 60% Italian on the mitochondrial side, seeing as Italy has the highest IQ in Europe (yeah i know who knew) this explains a lot.And as you point out are marrying out rapidly.

    That “Italian” portion is Southern Italian, which is a Mediterranean/Berber/Arab mix. The Northern Italians have the high IQs.

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