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Last September, Patrik Hermansson, a 25-year-old graduate student from Sweden, went undercover in the world of the extreme right. Posing as a student writing a thesis about the suppression of right-wing speech, he traveled from London to New York to Charlottesville, Va. — and into the heart of a dangerous movement that is experiencing a profound rejuvenation.

Mr. Hermansson, who was sent undercover by the British anti-racist watchdog group Hope Not Hate, spent months insinuating himself into the alt-right, using his Swedish nationality (many neo-Nazis are obsessed with Sweden because of its “Nordic” heritage) as a way in. It wasn’t always easy. “You want to punch them in the face,” he told me of the people he met undercover. “You want to scream and do whatever — leave. But you can’t do any of those things. You have to sit and smile.”

What he learned while undercover is one part of a shocking, comprehensive new report from Hope Not Hate that sheds light on the strange landscape of the alt-right, the much discussed, little understood and largely anonymous far-right movement that exists mostly online and that has come to national attention in part because of its support for Donald Trump.

As a result of the growing influence of the far-right social-media ecosystem, once-moribund hate groups in both the United States and Europe — groups that mostly existed long before “alt-right” entered the vernacular — are enjoying a striking uptick in recruitment.

This latest wave of potential members is young — teenage and 20-something men (they’re mostly men) appear to be exhibiting interest in far-right ideas in numbers that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago. These young men are being radicalized largely through the work of a popular group of new far-right internet personalities whose videos, blog posts and tweets have been consistently nudging the boundaries of acceptable conversation to the right — one of the explicit goals of racist extremists everywhere.

And while “globalist” may be one of the alt-right’s favorite slurs, Hope Not Hate conclusively shows that the alt-right is itself now a global movement with regular interaction among far-right figures from Scotland to Sweden to Seattle.

Mr. Hermansson’s story offers vital insights into these groups’ tactics and their sometimes bizarre practices. During his time undercover, he hung out with heavily armed Holocaust deniers and attended gatherings where extremists drank mead from a traditional Viking horn and prayed to the Norse god Odin. In Charlottesville, he marched alongside hundreds of young neo-Nazis and white supremacists before he was sprayed with Mace by a counterprotester and witnessed the car attack that killed Heather Heyer.

 
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  1. FKA Max says: • Website

    Response from Mr. Johnson:

    Under Cover With the Alt Right
    Greg Johnson

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/09/under-cover-with-the-alt-right/

    Mr. Sailer and the Unz Review are also featured on their website:

    Sailer is a prolific writer known for his pseudo-scientific writings on race that have become popular among the alt-right. Sailer graduated from Rice University in 1980 and began writing for National Review in the 1990s, a stint that ended when he was pushed out in 1998. He has since been confined to more fringe outlets, many of which are now associated with the alt-right, such as VDare, Taki’s Magazine, and the Unz Review.

    Sailer is best known for coining the term “human biodiversity” (HBD) in the mid-90s, now an ideological mainstay of the alt-right, and much of his writing focuses on alleged IQ differences between “races”. Sailer has, however, rejected white nationalism for what he calls “citizenism”, the idea that a nation should overwhelmingly prioritise the interests of its current citizens over “foreigners”.

    While Sailer has not embraced the term “alt-right”, he has written favourably of the movement in Taki’s Magazine, and figures, such as Ricky Vaughn, have described his writings as a gateway into white nationalism.

    Sailer began claiming as early as 2000 that the route to success for the Republican Party was to take populist and hard-line nationalist and economic positions on immigration, white identity politics and economic protectionism in an appeal to working-class whites.

    In the 2000s Sailer popularised the anti-interventionist and anti-immigration slogan “Invade the World, Invite the World”, which was used by Breitbart News Network in 2016 to attack Hillary Clinton and John McCain.

    https://alternativeright.hopenothate.com/whos-who

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  2. The Alt-Right is rising. Hillary Clinton gave a whole speech in Nevada where she attacked the Alt-Right and tried to connect the Alt-Right to Trump. Hillary Clinton knows that globalization, multiculturalism and foreign policy interventionism are on their way out. The Alt-Right is set to claim the leadership of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States, and Hillary Clinton knows it.

    Hillary Clinton has the hots for the new conquerors of the Alt-Right. Hillary Clinton was all kinds of hot and bothered during and after her Alt-Right Nevada speech. Goldwater Girl Hillary seemed young again when she passionately attacked the Alt-Right.

    Like a squirrel leaking on an electric fence, Hillary Clinton gets all tingly when she lustfully contemplates the rising Alt-Right. When Hillary and her pals are pounding down wine in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York, you can bet that they are chatting about the new conquerors of the rising Alt-Right.

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  3. Well I never anticipated in my wildest dreams that there would be some possibility of relatively elevating Gustavo Arellano.

    At least the NYT put this in their opinion section.

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  4. Jason Liu says:

    They’re even more LARPy than I thought

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  5. iffen says:

    The term nothing-burger was new to me some time back and I didn’t quite get it until I read this article.

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  6. What’s the point of going ‘undercover’ with the Alt Right when their taboo-views are spoken so honestly and directly?

    Some groups say one thing but do another. This is why James O’Keefe has been effective in spilling the beans on big media and the like.

    But what Alt Right says ‘undercover’ is what they say above-cover. Alt Right has nothing to hide. The whole movement is based on forthright discussion of taboo subjects,

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    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    He didn't know the secret handshake, so he didn't learn the real secrets. That really dark stuff, like wanting our kids to have a real chance in a sane world rather than being discriminated against, physically pummeled, and eventually sent off to the camps as the unwanted, undesired minority. Yeah, I know that's rayciss, but nobody was going to speak for me when they came for me, and I decided I didn't want to just go quietly.
    , @MarcB.
    "What’s the point of going ‘undercover’ with the Alt Right when their taboo-views are spoken so honestly and directly?"

    I was thinking the same thing. Unless he exposed a terrorist plot or pervasive sentiments beyond the pale of public Alt Right discourse, his investigative report amounts to a big ZERO. The only thing that makes it the least bit saucy is that he was "embedded" with a controversial dissident group, which lends itself to an unearned air of legitimacy and bravery. I do see a potential back-fire along the lines of the Hillary speech, because the story appears to be all sizzle, no steak.

    Most get-togethers with White Advocates I've attended have had at least one of these infiltrators report about it online, and they are boring reads. I'm conscious that many attendees are risking their jobs by being there, so I focus on fellowship and friendly conversation and avoid anything that could lead to a disclosure of personal information. The most interesting thing I've heard in over a decade was a defense of the post-reconstruction era KKK by a few unreconstructed Southerners in their 70's. Otherwise, it's bunch of unrepentant White dudes (mostly) hanging out, which unfortunately now may be a newsworthy event.
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  7. I wonder if this was the guy with a Nazi flag

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    • Replies: @Cato
    No, the guy with the Nazi flag was the FBI informant.
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  8. https://jasonrezajorjani.com/blog/2017/9/20/why-i-left-the-alt-right

    What is worse is that in the long months of the Spring of 2017, as I waited for funding to materialize, I watched the corporation that was my brainchild turn into a magnet for white trash.

    But a movement cannot be just about intellectuals, philosophers, and sophisticates. It has to be about the people, esp those who have less, and they will appear as ‘trash’ to elitists.

    All movements must incorporate the ‘trash’ elements. Jesus welcomed the wretched.
    Granted, the ‘trash’ need to be guided and led, but most people are vulgarians.

    Also, altright.com was devised for topical issues, not indepth intellectual discourse.

    Also, Jorjani’s Iran-fixation has nothing to do with the Alt Right. His hope that whites should care about Iran is as ridiculous as the Jewish demand that whites serve Israel and serve Jewish interests.

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  9. Swedish boneheads have sent one of their own to infiltrate the Alt-Right on behalf of the British Harpies in Hope Not Hate. The New York Times prints up his writings on the matter. Sweden is experiencing extreme multicultural mayhem caused by mass immigration, and this 25 year-old Swede takes advantage of the old cat ladies in Hope Not Hate to get some free travel and fun in the United States.

    The areas of Swedish settlement in the United States have followed the example of their blood back in Sweden by pouring REFUGEE OVERLOAD into Minnesota in the form of a hundred thousand Somalians. American history tells us that there once was a time when non-Swedes in America enjoyed using the term “Dumb Swede.” They may have been right.

    This Tweet from 2015 signals my opinion of Swedes and Swedish Americans who push mass immigration and multiculturalism in their respective countries:

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    dumber than Carson-supporting Iowa evangelicals.

    You is so smart.

    Let's see you restore your European Christian nation without the support of Evangelical Christians.

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  10. FKA Max says: • Website

    Response form Mr. Jorjani:

    Why I Left the Alt-Right
    September 20, 2017

    https://jasonrezajorjani.com/blog/2017/9/20/why-i-left-the-alt-right

    What Richard did not know I disclosed to him about a month later during a late night dinner at the Hamilton restaurant in DC. After publishing Prometheus and Atlas with Arktos Media, I was approached by some people who had already been aware of my (entirely voluntary and unpaid) high-level advisement work with the (501c3 non-profit) Iranian Renaissance organization. These individuals facilitated some initially promising private meetings with incoming Trump Administration policy makers, with the aim of interesting them in our vision for an Iranian cultural revolution. They wanted to help build a new Persian Empire that would offer the West a staunch ally in the war against a nascent Islamic Caliphate. I was told that my book, Prometheus and Atlas, expressed exactly the kind of vision that they had for the future evolution of Man.
    [...]
    What is worse is that in the long months of the Spring of 2017, as I waited for funding to materialize, I watched the corporation that was my brainchild turn into a magnet for white trash. Exactly the kind of people who were supposed to be sidelined by my centralization and corporatization of the Alt-Right were cultivated by Richard as the populist base for ‘his’ movement.
    [...]
    In May, at a meeting in London, I was assured by the investors that the obstacles had at last been cleared and I could expect our collaboration to begin in June. When I reported this to Richard at a New York lunch at the end of the same month, he thoughtlessly and angrily dismissed a plan that the investors had shared with me for creating an economic and security corridor from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea and across to the Caucasus. This “Neo-Scythian” Ukraine-based approach to the long-term revitalization and liberation of Europe – linked to a future, post-Islamic Greater Iran via the Caucasus – offended the Russophilia that has been fostered by his wife.

    So I cannot say I was surprised when the backers ultimately failed to follow through with their long-promised investment. By late June the movement was long past its embryonic stage. A deformed creature, a mindless Frankenstein’s monster had already entered the world. Of course this would not have happened if, between February and May, the angel investors had made good on their promises. Even though they are now responsible for my being libeled in the New York Times, potentially at the cost of my career in academia, I will not reveal their identities. It would catalyze a mainstream media scandal that none of us want to see. I am not interested in testifying before Congress, because the truth I would have to tell is stranger than fiction.

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    More Mr. Jorjani:
    https://jasonrezajorjani.com/blog/2017/9/20/why-i-left-the-alt-right

    Just after a very warmly received speech on “Occult Science and the Organic State” at the Identitarian Ideas conference in Stockholm in October of 2016, Daniel Friberg hired me as the Editor-in-Chief of Arktos Media – the press that had published my first book, Prometheus and Atlas, which went on to win the 2016 Parapsychological Association Book Award (the PA is a serious scientific organization accredited by the AAAS).
     
    The Parapsychological Association became affiliated with the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 1969, against the better judgment of theoretical physicist John Archibald Wheeler. I have to say that I agree with Wheeler.

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1979/05/17/a-decade-of-permissiveness/

    I know that the views of our late and beloved Margaret Mead were strong in getting parapsychology admitted to the AAAS. I was present at the meeting where it happened. The opinion that I had and many others had was overridden by the permissiveness of the time.
     

    “We have enough charlatanism in this country today without needing a scientific organization to prostitute itself to it. The AAAS has to make up its mind whether it is seeking popularity or whether it is strictly a scientific organization.” Admiral Hyman G. Rickover has just this minute telephoned to back my position on making a clean break between the AAAS and parapsychology and authorizes me to quote him so.
     
    , @DFH
    This shows why non-whites should never be trusted with any sort of movement role.

    It's clear that Jorjani was only ever interested in his (CIA?) LARP-fantasies. His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the 'white trash' remark.
    Only a total moron like Spencer would ever have given him an important role.
    , @Henry's Cat
    This Jorjani character takes himself waaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously.
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  11. MEH 0910 says:

    HOPE not hate – YouTube – Alternative Right Report – playlist 13 videos

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAK0y5bxmW3koUcUDpUkVNnVqSMHvhcTw

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  12. “Hope not Hate”; that’s absurd these not even close to interchangeable. Do they pass out stuffed animals on street corners and chant hari khrisna? (gee whiz is that misspelled?) I hate to think that Mr. Hermansson’s hope for a copious slathering of acclaim goes unrewarded.

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  13. MEH 0910 says:
    @FKA Max
    Response form Mr. Jorjani:


    Why I Left the Alt-Right
    September 20, 2017

    https://jasonrezajorjani.com/blog/2017/9/20/why-i-left-the-alt-right

    What Richard did not know I disclosed to him about a month later during a late night dinner at the Hamilton restaurant in DC. After publishing Prometheus and Atlas with Arktos Media, I was approached by some people who had already been aware of my (entirely voluntary and unpaid) high-level advisement work with the (501c3 non-profit) Iranian Renaissance organization. These individuals facilitated some initially promising private meetings with incoming Trump Administration policy makers, with the aim of interesting them in our vision for an Iranian cultural revolution. They wanted to help build a new Persian Empire that would offer the West a staunch ally in the war against a nascent Islamic Caliphate. I was told that my book, Prometheus and Atlas, expressed exactly the kind of vision that they had for the future evolution of Man.
    [...]
    What is worse is that in the long months of the Spring of 2017, as I waited for funding to materialize, I watched the corporation that was my brainchild turn into a magnet for white trash. Exactly the kind of people who were supposed to be sidelined by my centralization and corporatization of the Alt-Right were cultivated by Richard as the populist base for ‘his’ movement.
    [...]
    In May, at a meeting in London, I was assured by the investors that the obstacles had at last been cleared and I could expect our collaboration to begin in June. When I reported this to Richard at a New York lunch at the end of the same month, he thoughtlessly and angrily dismissed a plan that the investors had shared with me for creating an economic and security corridor from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea and across to the Caucasus. This “Neo-Scythian” Ukraine-based approach to the long-term revitalization and liberation of Europe – linked to a future, post-Islamic Greater Iran via the Caucasus – offended the Russophilia that has been fostered by his wife.

    So I cannot say I was surprised when the backers ultimately failed to follow through with their long-promised investment. By late June the movement was long past its embryonic stage. A deformed creature, a mindless Frankenstein’s monster had already entered the world. Of course this would not have happened if, between February and May, the angel investors had made good on their promises. Even though they are now responsible for my being libeled in the New York Times, potentially at the cost of my career in academia, I will not reveal their identities. It would catalyze a mainstream media scandal that none of us want to see. I am not interested in testifying before Congress, because the truth I would have to tell is stranger than fiction.
     

    More Mr. Jorjani:

    https://jasonrezajorjani.com/blog/2017/9/20/why-i-left-the-alt-right

    Just after a very warmly received speech on “Occult Science and the Organic State” at the Identitarian Ideas conference in Stockholm in October of 2016, Daniel Friberg hired me as the Editor-in-Chief of Arktos Media – the press that had published my first book, Prometheus and Atlas, which went on to win the 2016 Parapsychological Association Book Award (the PA is a serious scientific organization accredited by the AAAS).

    The Parapsychological Association became affiliated with the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 1969, against the better judgment of theoretical physicist John Archibald Wheeler. I have to say that I agree with Wheeler.

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1979/05/17/a-decade-of-permissiveness/

    I know that the views of our late and beloved Margaret Mead were strong in getting parapsychology admitted to the AAAS. I was present at the meeting where it happened. The opinion that I had and many others had was overridden by the permissiveness of the time.

    “We have enough charlatanism in this country today without needing a scientific organization to prostitute itself to it. The AAAS has to make up its mind whether it is seeking popularity or whether it is strictly a scientific organization.” Admiral Hyman G. Rickover has just this minute telephoned to back my position on making a clean break between the AAAS and parapsychology and authorizes me to quote him so.

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  14. Giuseppe says:

    This is a ridiculous amount of attention for such a marginal, deeply underground group that could at best field a couple of dozen at Charlottesville. Nobody would have even heard of alt-right had they not originated the clever cuck moniker, and had Hillary not denounced a movement nobody knew one thing about.

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    REMEMBER CHARLOTTESVILLE

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/N1zzW44zcmDT/
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    https://twitter.com/WillBWindsor/status/910735993136865280
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  16. eah says:
    @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKOQCXdVoAEgMkC.jpg
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    Hillary Clinton is mesmerized and infatuated with the rising Alt-Right. Hillary Clinton knows that the treasonous rats in the Republican Party ruling class are donor-controlled whores who do not represent the interests of their White Core American voters. Hillary Clinton respects and is attracted to the Alt-Right Whites.

    The Alt-Right is the patriotic alternative to the putrid whores who run the Republican Party. The putrid whores in the GOP ruling class push nation-wrecking mass immigration, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and unnecessary overseas wars that waste both blood and treasure.

    The Alt-Right proudly says that European Christians are the ancestral core of the United States. The Alt-Right says that British Protestant settlers provided the political atmosphere in which the United States was created. The Alt-Right says that the United States is a European Christian nation. The Alt-Right will bravely fight for the interests of White Core Americans.

    Hillary Clinton loves the strength and power of the Alt-Right. Hillary Clinton knows that the smash and grab scheme of globalization is at its end.

    Hillary Clinton went out of her way to live in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York. When Hillary Clinton is at her imperial compound in her mostly White town of Chappaqua, she loves nothing more than to guzzle down booze while lustfully longing for her Alt-Right heroes.

    Hillary Clinton reveals her love for the Alt-Right:

    https://youtu.be/sYyZX3UW8Qc
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  17. DFH says:
    @FKA Max
    Response form Mr. Jorjani:


    Why I Left the Alt-Right
    September 20, 2017

    https://jasonrezajorjani.com/blog/2017/9/20/why-i-left-the-alt-right

    What Richard did not know I disclosed to him about a month later during a late night dinner at the Hamilton restaurant in DC. After publishing Prometheus and Atlas with Arktos Media, I was approached by some people who had already been aware of my (entirely voluntary and unpaid) high-level advisement work with the (501c3 non-profit) Iranian Renaissance organization. These individuals facilitated some initially promising private meetings with incoming Trump Administration policy makers, with the aim of interesting them in our vision for an Iranian cultural revolution. They wanted to help build a new Persian Empire that would offer the West a staunch ally in the war against a nascent Islamic Caliphate. I was told that my book, Prometheus and Atlas, expressed exactly the kind of vision that they had for the future evolution of Man.
    [...]
    What is worse is that in the long months of the Spring of 2017, as I waited for funding to materialize, I watched the corporation that was my brainchild turn into a magnet for white trash. Exactly the kind of people who were supposed to be sidelined by my centralization and corporatization of the Alt-Right were cultivated by Richard as the populist base for ‘his’ movement.
    [...]
    In May, at a meeting in London, I was assured by the investors that the obstacles had at last been cleared and I could expect our collaboration to begin in June. When I reported this to Richard at a New York lunch at the end of the same month, he thoughtlessly and angrily dismissed a plan that the investors had shared with me for creating an economic and security corridor from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea and across to the Caucasus. This “Neo-Scythian” Ukraine-based approach to the long-term revitalization and liberation of Europe – linked to a future, post-Islamic Greater Iran via the Caucasus – offended the Russophilia that has been fostered by his wife.

    So I cannot say I was surprised when the backers ultimately failed to follow through with their long-promised investment. By late June the movement was long past its embryonic stage. A deformed creature, a mindless Frankenstein’s monster had already entered the world. Of course this would not have happened if, between February and May, the angel investors had made good on their promises. Even though they are now responsible for my being libeled in the New York Times, potentially at the cost of my career in academia, I will not reveal their identities. It would catalyze a mainstream media scandal that none of us want to see. I am not interested in testifying before Congress, because the truth I would have to tell is stranger than fiction.
     

    This shows why non-whites should never be trusted with any sort of movement role.

    It’s clear that Jorjani was only ever interested in his (CIA?) LARP-fantasies. His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the ‘white trash’ remark.
    Only a total moron like Spencer would ever have given him an important role.

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    "His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the ‘white trash’ remark."

    White Trash is an entirely objective and accurate assessment of the comments section of altright.com.
    , @FKA Max
    Agreed.

    I commented this last year:

    Much of Mr. Spencer’s time and tweeting on Twitter, before he was banned from the platform, was dedicated to defending Russia, Putin and Bashar al-Assad of Syria, instead of advocating for and defending the historic Protestant American people and nation. What exactly are his real priorities?

    Mr. Johnson had similar concerns:
    [...]
    I have a lot of disagreements with the direction that Spencer has been taking NPI and Radix in recent months. He has basically abandoned ethnonationalism and turned into an apologist for Dugin and reactionary Russian chauvinism. But I still wished to attend the conference and wanted it to be a success.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1669380

    Mr. Unz commented this earlier this year:

    Flynn seemed pretty reasonable on Russia, which was a major plus, but especially crazy on Iran, which was clearly a minus. I also think he co-authored a book with Michael Ledeen, one of the craziest of the Neocons and who probably should have been executed for treason years ago, which certainly wasn’t a good sign.

    Overall, it looks like the DC Establishment is gradually getting rid of the Trump people and replacing them with more “mainstream” people, who are just crazy in a different way.

    Still, it’s better than a serious risk of the nuclear war with Russia under Hillary, so we’re definitely ahead of the game.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/#comment-1767728

    Jorjani's connection in/with the White House was probably the (Catholic) Bannon-Gorka-Flynn nexus, plus people like Erik Prince were probably in the mix, too. I think they wanted to hostilely take over the Alt Right, but then were probably distracted by the entire Russian collusion delusion drama, and left Jorjani high and dry:

    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies:
    An Honest Conversation About Blackwater | Erik Prince and Stefan Molyneux

    Published on Nov 28, 2016
    [...]
    Without taking into account the Vatican element, one cannot fully understand the logic of Invade the World/Invite the World , in my opinion. [...]

    Erik Prince of Blackwater infamy is a convert to Roman Catholicism
    [...]
    The Zionist-Vatican alliance wanted to get rid of the authentic Alt Right after their intrusion was repelled and their co-option failed, and Richard Spencer gave them a huge opening to do that with his ‘Hail Victory’ stunt at NPI…

    It is no coincidence, in my opinion, that the ‘Alt Lite’, e.g. Infowars, Paul Joseph Watson, et al. are calling themselves the ‘New Right,’ now.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665634

    I tried to give Steve Bannon the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are pretty much spot on with your characterization of him ‘He sounds very much like a Catholic neocon type.’
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665789

    There are plenty of Catholic Necons in D.C.:

    O’Hanlon sounds like a pretty Celtic-Catholic name to me… he seems to be a Catholic Neocon…

    O’Hanlon signed a letter and a statement on postwar Iraq published by the Project for the New American Century.[17][18]

    – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._O%27Hanlon#Letter_by_Project_for_the_New_American_Century
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1686225

    The CIA is the best known of the 17 agencies that comprise the American intelligence community. It has earned itself nicknames like “Catholic Intelligence Agency” and “Catholics In Action”. It’s worth exploring why.
     
    - https://www.unz.com/article/the-little-cucks-national-review-kevin-d-williamson-and-the-pointless-persuasion/#comment-1991234

    This no doubt has much to do with the fact that Edmund Walsh was arguably the first American anti-communist (not to mention the fact that Walsh’s preached preemptive strikes against aggressors decades before the word neoconservative existed).
    – https://spectator.org/48284_joe-mccarthys-jesuit/
     
    - https://www.unz.com/article/the-fat-heather-heyer-hoax/#comment-2000011
    , @Cagey Beast
    How could anyone read the comments section of Alt-Right sites or Twitter accounts and not believe the White trash segment is very real? Have you ever tried conversing with them online?
    , @Anonymous
    Whatever one thinks of Jorjani, he's right that AltRight.com has been aiming pretty low for a while now. It's like they want the Stormer audience but are too afraid of going that extra mile, so the result is something akin to a right-wing Buzzfeed and the comment section is a /pol/ thread without memes.
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  18. You might as well report on the “left” by infiltrating an antifa gang and ignoring the supporters of Bernie Sanders.

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  19. “Hope Not Hate” is based in the UK, and receives grants from the Open Society Foundation of George Soros for the specific purpose of investigating the Counter-Jihad Movement.

    http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1013880&subid=0

    It receives money from other pro-migration groups, including the Sigrid Rausing Trust, and Unbound Philanthropy.

    It would be worth investigating how extremely wealthy individuals and companies promote mass immigration from the Third World, in some cases laundering the money so we cannot identify its source; and whether that immigration serves the financial interests of the donors.

    The corporate vehicles for this activity, including political lobbying, are registered charities or charitable trusts; and the activity itself is described as “philanthropy” or a concern for “human rights”. This deceptive language would have made George Orwell blush.

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  20. @Priss Factor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW-GuI4aYzU

    What's the point of going 'undercover' with the Alt Right when their taboo-views are spoken so honestly and directly?

    Some groups say one thing but do another. This is why James O'Keefe has been effective in spilling the beans on big media and the like.

    But what Alt Right says 'undercover' is what they say above-cover. Alt Right has nothing to hide. The whole movement is based on forthright discussion of taboo subjects,

    He didn’t know the secret handshake, so he didn’t learn the real secrets. That really dark stuff, like wanting our kids to have a real chance in a sane world rather than being discriminated against, physically pummeled, and eventually sent off to the camps as the unwanted, undesired minority. Yeah, I know that’s rayciss, but nobody was going to speak for me when they came for me, and I decided I didn’t want to just go quietly.

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  21. Somewhere on Ted talks is a video of a black guy who slipped into alt-right meetings, or maybe it was just Trump rallies. Does anyone even make the distinction anymore?

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  22. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @DFH
    This shows why non-whites should never be trusted with any sort of movement role.

    It's clear that Jorjani was only ever interested in his (CIA?) LARP-fantasies. His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the 'white trash' remark.
    Only a total moron like Spencer would ever have given him an important role.

    “His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the ‘white trash’ remark.”

    White Trash is an entirely objective and accurate assessment of the comments section of altright.com.

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    Actually, "white trash" is a term originally used by slaves for the unfortunate whites who eaked out a living doing odd jobs for the slave's masters. Slaves looked down on white trash.
    , @Lurker
    That you Thomm? Or John Engleman?
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  23. The NYT chose not to allow my post. (They really are terrified that poignant criticism might ruffle what shreds of thought faithful readers retain.) so I’ll post it here.

    …he marched alongside hundreds of young neo-Nazis and white supremacists before he was sprayed with Mace by a counterprotester and witnessed the car attack that killed Heather Heyer…”

    This quote suggests that the writer was an innocent victim of antifa aggression, confirming the Charlottesville protesters’ claims that they were innocent victims of left-wing violence. Either that, or the writer was an agent provocateur, seeking to create violence. In either case the fake news MSM’s narrative regarding the events in Charlottesville becomes suspect.

    I predict that the young man, whom the MSM want to see lynched for Ms. Heyer’s death will, ultimately be acquitted or face relatively minor charges, just as happened with George Zimmerman. The left-wing mob violence in Charlottesville, the unwillingness of police to control that violence, and the actions of local politicians, which actually inflamed that violence, provide a ready-made affirmative defense: The young man’s apparently reckless driving was due to compelling necessity. He was desperately seeking to escape the fate of Reginald Denny at the hands of an out-of-control mob which had begun attacking his car and him.

    It’s not even clear that Heyer was struck by his car or died as a result of his actions. The MSM have promoted pictures of a woman on the hood of the young man’s car. Although this woman was part of the BLM mob with which Ms. Heyer was rampaging, she was not actually Ms. Heyer.

    The MSM have left at least one further clue about their narrative construction. As with Trayvon Williams, they have been presenting extremely out-of-date and misleading photographs of Ms. Heyer. Rather than the dewy-eyed HS grad the MSM have been promoting, Ms. Heyer was a very obese, thirty-something woman, who’d been rampaging for some time with a BLM mob on a hot day. Rumor has it that she died of a heart attack, although there’s so much squid ink out there now that it’s impossible to determine the truth of this.

    I’m looking forward to NYT coverage of the young man’s trial and the unraveling of the latest MSM fake news.

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  24. Ben Frank says:

    There seems to be a common typo where people write “hate groups” but they mean “hated groups”.

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  25. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the ‘white trash’

    Yeah, like the sub-human species known as “white trash,” don’t exist?

    Proof of their existence at every strata of society, from Trump, down to many UR residents here -given their thought process-, should make that self-evident, no?

    A feeling of intense contempt for such a species should be a sign of moral strength.

    Not that wannabe “white” scum like Jorjani qualifies for any of that.

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    Do you mean the sub-human species "white trash" that has a significantly higher IQ than the sub-human species "negro"?

    Yes, the negro, which is 10-12 times more likely to commit interracial crimes of violence against white trash than the converse?
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  26. MarcB. says:
    @Priss Factor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW-GuI4aYzU

    What's the point of going 'undercover' with the Alt Right when their taboo-views are spoken so honestly and directly?

    Some groups say one thing but do another. This is why James O'Keefe has been effective in spilling the beans on big media and the like.

    But what Alt Right says 'undercover' is what they say above-cover. Alt Right has nothing to hide. The whole movement is based on forthright discussion of taboo subjects,

    “What’s the point of going ‘undercover’ with the Alt Right when their taboo-views are spoken so honestly and directly?”

    I was thinking the same thing. Unless he exposed a terrorist plot or pervasive sentiments beyond the pale of public Alt Right discourse, his investigative report amounts to a big ZERO. The only thing that makes it the least bit saucy is that he was “embedded” with a controversial dissident group, which lends itself to an unearned air of legitimacy and bravery. I do see a potential back-fire along the lines of the Hillary speech, because the story appears to be all sizzle, no steak.

    Most get-togethers with White Advocates I’ve attended have had at least one of these infiltrators report about it online, and they are boring reads. I’m conscious that many attendees are risking their jobs by being there, so I focus on fellowship and friendly conversation and avoid anything that could lead to a disclosure of personal information. The most interesting thing I’ve heard in over a decade was a defense of the post-reconstruction era KKK by a few unreconstructed Southerners in their 70′s. Otherwise, it’s bunch of unrepentant White dudes (mostly) hanging out, which unfortunately now may be a newsworthy event.

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  27. @FKA Max
    Response form Mr. Jorjani:


    Why I Left the Alt-Right
    September 20, 2017

    https://jasonrezajorjani.com/blog/2017/9/20/why-i-left-the-alt-right

    What Richard did not know I disclosed to him about a month later during a late night dinner at the Hamilton restaurant in DC. After publishing Prometheus and Atlas with Arktos Media, I was approached by some people who had already been aware of my (entirely voluntary and unpaid) high-level advisement work with the (501c3 non-profit) Iranian Renaissance organization. These individuals facilitated some initially promising private meetings with incoming Trump Administration policy makers, with the aim of interesting them in our vision for an Iranian cultural revolution. They wanted to help build a new Persian Empire that would offer the West a staunch ally in the war against a nascent Islamic Caliphate. I was told that my book, Prometheus and Atlas, expressed exactly the kind of vision that they had for the future evolution of Man.
    [...]
    What is worse is that in the long months of the Spring of 2017, as I waited for funding to materialize, I watched the corporation that was my brainchild turn into a magnet for white trash. Exactly the kind of people who were supposed to be sidelined by my centralization and corporatization of the Alt-Right were cultivated by Richard as the populist base for ‘his’ movement.
    [...]
    In May, at a meeting in London, I was assured by the investors that the obstacles had at last been cleared and I could expect our collaboration to begin in June. When I reported this to Richard at a New York lunch at the end of the same month, he thoughtlessly and angrily dismissed a plan that the investors had shared with me for creating an economic and security corridor from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea and across to the Caucasus. This “Neo-Scythian” Ukraine-based approach to the long-term revitalization and liberation of Europe – linked to a future, post-Islamic Greater Iran via the Caucasus – offended the Russophilia that has been fostered by his wife.

    So I cannot say I was surprised when the backers ultimately failed to follow through with their long-promised investment. By late June the movement was long past its embryonic stage. A deformed creature, a mindless Frankenstein’s monster had already entered the world. Of course this would not have happened if, between February and May, the angel investors had made good on their promises. Even though they are now responsible for my being libeled in the New York Times, potentially at the cost of my career in academia, I will not reveal their identities. It would catalyze a mainstream media scandal that none of us want to see. I am not interested in testifying before Congress, because the truth I would have to tell is stranger than fiction.
     

    This Jorjani character takes himself waaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously.

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  28. Cato says:
    @siberiancat
    I wonder if this was the guy with a Nazi flag

    No, the guy with the Nazi flag was the FBI informant.

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  29. FKA Max says: • Website
    @DFH
    This shows why non-whites should never be trusted with any sort of movement role.

    It's clear that Jorjani was only ever interested in his (CIA?) LARP-fantasies. His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the 'white trash' remark.
    Only a total moron like Spencer would ever have given him an important role.

    Agreed.

    I commented this last year:

    Much of Mr. Spencer’s time and tweeting on Twitter, before he was banned from the platform, was dedicated to defending Russia, Putin and Bashar al-Assad of Syria, instead of advocating for and defending the historic Protestant American people and nation. What exactly are his real priorities?

    Mr. Johnson had similar concerns:
    [...]
    I have a lot of disagreements with the direction that Spencer has been taking NPI and Radix in recent months. He has basically abandoned ethnonationalism and turned into an apologist for Dugin and reactionary Russian chauvinism. But I still wished to attend the conference and wanted it to be a success.

    http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1669380

    Mr. Unz commented this earlier this year:

    Flynn seemed pretty reasonable on Russia, which was a major plus, but especially crazy on Iran, which was clearly a minus. I also think he co-authored a book with Michael Ledeen, one of the craziest of the Neocons and who probably should have been executed for treason years ago, which certainly wasn’t a good sign.

    Overall, it looks like the DC Establishment is gradually getting rid of the Trump people and replacing them with more “mainstream” people, who are just crazy in a different way.

    Still, it’s better than a serious risk of the nuclear war with Russia under Hillary, so we’re definitely ahead of the game.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/#comment-1767728

    Jorjani’s connection in/with the White House was probably the (Catholic) Bannon-Gorka-Flynn nexus, plus people like Erik Prince were probably in the mix, too. I think they wanted to hostilely take over the Alt Right, but then were probably distracted by the entire Russian collusion delusion drama, and left Jorjani high and dry:

    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies:
    An Honest Conversation About Blackwater | Erik Prince and Stefan Molyneux

    Published on Nov 28, 2016
    [...]
    Without taking into account the Vatican element, one cannot fully understand the logic of Invade the World/Invite the World , in my opinion. [...]

    Erik Prince of Blackwater infamy is a convert to Roman Catholicism
    [...]
    The Zionist-Vatican alliance wanted to get rid of the authentic Alt Right after their intrusion was repelled and their co-option failed, and Richard Spencer gave them a huge opening to do that with his ‘Hail Victory’ stunt at NPI…

    It is no coincidence, in my opinion, that the ‘Alt Lite’, e.g. Infowars, Paul Joseph Watson, et al. are calling themselves the ‘New Right,’ now.

    http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665634

    I tried to give Steve Bannon the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are pretty much spot on with your characterization of him ‘He sounds very much like a Catholic neocon type.’

    http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665789

    There are plenty of Catholic Necons in D.C.:

    O’Hanlon sounds like a pretty Celtic-Catholic name to me… he seems to be a Catholic Neocon…

    O’Hanlon signed a letter and a statement on postwar Iraq published by the Project for the New American Century.[17][18]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._O%27Hanlon#Letter_by_Project_for_the_New_American_Century

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1686225

    The CIA is the best known of the 17 agencies that comprise the American intelligence community. It has earned itself nicknames like “Catholic Intelligence Agency” and “Catholics In Action”. It’s worth exploring why.

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-little-cucks-national-review-kevin-d-williamson-and-the-pointless-persuasion/#comment-1991234

    This no doubt has much to do with the fact that Edmund Walsh was arguably the first American anti-communist (not to mention the fact that Walsh’s preached preemptive strikes against aggressors decades before the word neoconservative existed).
    https://spectator.org/48284_joe-mccarthys-jesuit/

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-fat-heather-heyer-hoax/#comment-2000011

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    Richard Spencer responds to Mr. Jorjani:

    The Departure of Jason Jorjani

    There's a point at which LARPing becomes lying.

    https://altright.com/2017/09/21/the-departure-of-jason-jorjani/

    Jason has always strongly identified with what he calls the Iranian Renaissance movement. Jason informed us that, after Charlottesville, he had been given an ultimatum: leave the Alt-Right or leave the Iranian resistance. It reveals much that Jason preferred the interests of a Middle Eastern country over a movement that represents the identities of White people in America and Europe. As his strange airing of dirty laundry reveals, he valued the Alt-Right as a means of advancing Iran.

    The Iranian Renaissance is an attempt to de-Islamify Iran and return it to its Aryan and even Zoroastrian roots, making the country a staunch ally of Europe and identitarian movements. Laudable . . . quixotic . . . perhaps dangerously de-stabilizing . . . I ultimately find this movement utterly dispensable to our broader goals. My personal instincts are towards realism, and I would have no qualm with European states having diplomatic, respectful relations with the current Iranian regime. Haven’t we had enough “regime change” in the Middle East to fill a lifetime?
    [...]
    He has a brilliant intellect and wide knowledge of philosophy, but also possess a tendency to indulge in the esotericism and other-worldliness of which Anglo-Saxons and Germans are rightly skeptical.
    [...]
    In February, when Jason first told me about this endlessly wealthy group—about how they would invest in the Alt-Right to the tune of millions, if not billions, and offer Jason the chance to own Arktos outright—my gut arrived at the following odds: There was a 90 percent chance Jason was delusional or engaging in wishful thinking; there was a 9 percent chance he was being deceptive or manipulative, and there was a one percent chance the story was actually true! After our magical funding was “delayed” for various illogical reasons, each one more baffling than the last, Daniel, Tor, and I began politely rolling our eyes every time Jason would bring it up.
    [...]
    Moreover, Jason’s public announcements—and bragging to an antifa infiltrator—of a connection to Steve Bannon is unsound and unwise to an extreme degree. First, if one has such an entrée into the inner-sanctum, it’s best not to talk about it, particularly with a person one has just met. And while Bannon might have read Julius Evola, every interview and public statement he has made reveals a man whose political philosophy was formed by the 2000s-era Tea Party, not by the Italian aristocratic radical.
     
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  30. @anonymous

    contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the ‘white trash’
     
    Yeah, like the sub-human species known as "white trash," don't exist?

    Proof of their existence at every strata of society, from Trump, down to many UR residents here -given their thought process-, should make that self-evident, no?

    A feeling of intense contempt for such a species should be a sign of moral strength.

    Not that wannabe "white" scum like Jorjani qualifies for any of that.

    Do you mean the sub-human species “white trash” that has a significantly higher IQ than the sub-human species “negro”?

    Yes, the negro, which is 10-12 times more likely to commit interracial crimes of violence against white trash than the converse?

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  31. hyperbola says:

    How much of Alt-Right is a false flag operation?

    Some of Steve Bannon’s Friends Are Jewish — and They Love His Zionism

    http://forward.com/news/354384/some-jews-decry-breitbart-editor-as-anti-semite-others-praise-him-as-proud/

    ….. The Anti-Defamation League condemned the move, saying Bannon’s website was home to racists and fostered hatred against Jews. But to his Jewish defenders — which include Breitbart’s CEO and senior editors for the site — he is an ally and proud Zionist.

    “I can say, without hesitation, that Steve is a friend of the Jewish people and a defender of Israel, as well as being a passionate American patriot and a great leader,” Joel Pollak, an Orthodox Jew and a senior editor for Breitbart News, wrote on Monday.

    Indeed, Breitbart’s origin story has its roots in Israel, according to Larry Solov, Breitbart’s CEO and president, another close Jewish colleague of Bannon.

    In a November 2015 post on Breitbart News, Solov describes the conception of the news site in 2007. It happened, Solov writes, during a trip to Israel with Andrew Breitbart, the Jewish founder and namesake of the website.

    The site was born to defend the Jewish state……………

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    Steve Bannon and the Breitbart site are not Alt-Right. Everyone on the Alt-Right keeps saying so but no one listens because they want to tar Trump with that brush.
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  32. @eah
    https://twitter.com/WillBWindsor/status/910735993136865280

    Hillary Clinton is mesmerized and infatuated with the rising Alt-Right. Hillary Clinton knows that the treasonous rats in the Republican Party ruling class are donor-controlled whores who do not represent the interests of their White Core American voters. Hillary Clinton respects and is attracted to the Alt-Right Whites.

    The Alt-Right is the patriotic alternative to the putrid whores who run the Republican Party. The putrid whores in the GOP ruling class push nation-wrecking mass immigration, sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and unnecessary overseas wars that waste both blood and treasure.

    The Alt-Right proudly says that European Christians are the ancestral core of the United States. The Alt-Right says that British Protestant settlers provided the political atmosphere in which the United States was created. The Alt-Right says that the United States is a European Christian nation. The Alt-Right will bravely fight for the interests of White Core Americans.

    Hillary Clinton loves the strength and power of the Alt-Right. Hillary Clinton knows that the smash and grab scheme of globalization is at its end.

    Hillary Clinton went out of her way to live in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York. When Hillary Clinton is at her imperial compound in her mostly White town of Chappaqua, she loves nothing more than to guzzle down booze while lustfully longing for her Alt-Right heroes.

    Hillary Clinton reveals her love for the Alt-Right:

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  33. 53 percent of White women voted for Donald Trump. 63 percent of White Women Without College Degrees voted for Trump.

    White women love the Alt-Right. Hillary Clinton loves the Alt-Right. White Women respect the power and strength of the Alt-Right.

    The Alt-Right loves White women. The Alt-Right is the answer for the future.

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  34. It would not surprise me if Hillary Clinton invites the Hope Not Hate cat ladies to her imperial compound in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York for a booze guzzling party where they celebrate their lusty love for the Alt-Right. Hillary Clinton and the Hope Not Hate harpies are hot to trot for the rising conquerors of the Alt-Right.

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  35. The Republican Party ruling class said there was no alternative to mass immigration, multiculturalism, financialization, endless overseas wars and sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams. A patriotic band of Americans said that there will be an alternative to all that. The Alt-Right will rescue the United States from the treasonous scum who now control it. The Alt-Right will smash through the corporate propaganda apparatus with patriotic fury.

    The Alt-Right can claim to be the rightful inheritor of the patriotic spirit of General George Washington and General Andrew Jackson. The Alt-Right has the power and strength to speak for the European people everywhere in the world they are. The Alt-Right will come to power in the United States, Germany, England, France, Australia, Spain, the Netherlands, Canada, Italy and everywhere else the people of European ancestry call home.

    White women of all nations will increasingly reject the multicultural mayhem that mass immigration brings. White women will reject the weakness and cowardice of politicians who do not defend and fight for their people and nations. White women will cut their ties with all political parties that put the interests of foreigners ahead of the interests of their own people and nations.

    The Alt-Right will bring forth new life and new power.

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  36. fnn says:
    @Giuseppe
    This is a ridiculous amount of attention for such a marginal, deeply underground group that could at best field a couple of dozen at Charlottesville. Nobody would have even heard of alt-right had they not originated the clever cuck moniker, and had Hillary not denounced a movement nobody knew one thing about.
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  37. @DFH
    This shows why non-whites should never be trusted with any sort of movement role.

    It's clear that Jorjani was only ever interested in his (CIA?) LARP-fantasies. His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the 'white trash' remark.
    Only a total moron like Spencer would ever have given him an important role.

    How could anyone read the comments section of Alt-Right sites or Twitter accounts and not believe the White trash segment is very real? Have you ever tried conversing with them online?

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  38. @hyperbola
    How much of Alt-Right is a false flag operation?

    Some of Steve Bannon’s Friends Are Jewish — and They Love His Zionism
    http://forward.com/news/354384/some-jews-decry-breitbart-editor-as-anti-semite-others-praise-him-as-proud/
    ..... The Anti-Defamation League condemned the move, saying Bannon’s website was home to racists and fostered hatred against Jews. But to his Jewish defenders — which include Breitbart’s CEO and senior editors for the site — he is an ally and proud Zionist.

    “I can say, without hesitation, that Steve is a friend of the Jewish people and a defender of Israel, as well as being a passionate American patriot and a great leader,” Joel Pollak, an Orthodox Jew and a senior editor for Breitbart News, wrote on Monday.

    Indeed, Breitbart’s origin story has its roots in Israel, according to Larry Solov, Breitbart’s CEO and president, another close Jewish colleague of Bannon.

    In a November 2015 post on Breitbart News, Solov describes the conception of the news site in 2007. It happened, Solov writes, during a trip to Israel with Andrew Breitbart, the Jewish founder and namesake of the website.

    The site was born to defend the Jewish state...............

    Steve Bannon and the Breitbart site are not Alt-Right. Everyone on the Alt-Right keeps saying so but no one listens because they want to tar Trump with that brush.

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  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @DFH
    This shows why non-whites should never be trusted with any sort of movement role.

    It's clear that Jorjani was only ever interested in his (CIA?) LARP-fantasies. His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the 'white trash' remark.
    Only a total moron like Spencer would ever have given him an important role.

    Whatever one thinks of Jorjani, he’s right that AltRight.com has been aiming pretty low for a while now. It’s like they want the Stormer audience but are too afraid of going that extra mile, so the result is something akin to a right-wing Buzzfeed and the comment section is a /pol/ thread without memes.

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  41. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    Agreed.

    I commented this last year:

    Much of Mr. Spencer’s time and tweeting on Twitter, before he was banned from the platform, was dedicated to defending Russia, Putin and Bashar al-Assad of Syria, instead of advocating for and defending the historic Protestant American people and nation. What exactly are his real priorities?

    Mr. Johnson had similar concerns:
    [...]
    I have a lot of disagreements with the direction that Spencer has been taking NPI and Radix in recent months. He has basically abandoned ethnonationalism and turned into an apologist for Dugin and reactionary Russian chauvinism. But I still wished to attend the conference and wanted it to be a success.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1669380

    Mr. Unz commented this earlier this year:

    Flynn seemed pretty reasonable on Russia, which was a major plus, but especially crazy on Iran, which was clearly a minus. I also think he co-authored a book with Michael Ledeen, one of the craziest of the Neocons and who probably should have been executed for treason years ago, which certainly wasn’t a good sign.

    Overall, it looks like the DC Establishment is gradually getting rid of the Trump people and replacing them with more “mainstream” people, who are just crazy in a different way.

    Still, it’s better than a serious risk of the nuclear war with Russia under Hillary, so we’re definitely ahead of the game.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/#comment-1767728

    Jorjani's connection in/with the White House was probably the (Catholic) Bannon-Gorka-Flynn nexus, plus people like Erik Prince were probably in the mix, too. I think they wanted to hostilely take over the Alt Right, but then were probably distracted by the entire Russian collusion delusion drama, and left Jorjani high and dry:

    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies:
    An Honest Conversation About Blackwater | Erik Prince and Stefan Molyneux

    Published on Nov 28, 2016
    [...]
    Without taking into account the Vatican element, one cannot fully understand the logic of Invade the World/Invite the World , in my opinion. [...]

    Erik Prince of Blackwater infamy is a convert to Roman Catholicism
    [...]
    The Zionist-Vatican alliance wanted to get rid of the authentic Alt Right after their intrusion was repelled and their co-option failed, and Richard Spencer gave them a huge opening to do that with his ‘Hail Victory’ stunt at NPI…

    It is no coincidence, in my opinion, that the ‘Alt Lite’, e.g. Infowars, Paul Joseph Watson, et al. are calling themselves the ‘New Right,’ now.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665634

    I tried to give Steve Bannon the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are pretty much spot on with your characterization of him ‘He sounds very much like a Catholic neocon type.’
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665789

    There are plenty of Catholic Necons in D.C.:

    O’Hanlon sounds like a pretty Celtic-Catholic name to me… he seems to be a Catholic Neocon…

    O’Hanlon signed a letter and a statement on postwar Iraq published by the Project for the New American Century.[17][18]

    – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._O%27Hanlon#Letter_by_Project_for_the_New_American_Century
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1686225

    The CIA is the best known of the 17 agencies that comprise the American intelligence community. It has earned itself nicknames like “Catholic Intelligence Agency” and “Catholics In Action”. It’s worth exploring why.
     
    - https://www.unz.com/article/the-little-cucks-national-review-kevin-d-williamson-and-the-pointless-persuasion/#comment-1991234

    This no doubt has much to do with the fact that Edmund Walsh was arguably the first American anti-communist (not to mention the fact that Walsh’s preached preemptive strikes against aggressors decades before the word neoconservative existed).
    – https://spectator.org/48284_joe-mccarthys-jesuit/
     
    - https://www.unz.com/article/the-fat-heather-heyer-hoax/#comment-2000011

    Richard Spencer responds to Mr. Jorjani:

    The Departure of Jason Jorjani

    There’s a point at which LARPing becomes lying.

    https://altright.com/2017/09/21/the-departure-of-jason-jorjani/

    Jason has always strongly identified with what he calls the Iranian Renaissance movement. Jason informed us that, after Charlottesville, he had been given an ultimatum: leave the Alt-Right or leave the Iranian resistance. It reveals much that Jason preferred the interests of a Middle Eastern country over a movement that represents the identities of White people in America and Europe. As his strange airing of dirty laundry reveals, he valued the Alt-Right as a means of advancing Iran.

    The Iranian Renaissance is an attempt to de-Islamify Iran and return it to its Aryan and even Zoroastrian roots, making the country a staunch ally of Europe and identitarian movements. Laudable . . . quixotic . . . perhaps dangerously de-stabilizing . . . I ultimately find this movement utterly dispensable to our broader goals. My personal instincts are towards realism, and I would have no qualm with European states having diplomatic, respectful relations with the current Iranian regime. Haven’t we had enough “regime change” in the Middle East to fill a lifetime?
    [...]
    He has a brilliant intellect and wide knowledge of philosophy, but also possess a tendency to indulge in the esotericism and other-worldliness of which Anglo-Saxons and Germans are rightly skeptical.
    [...]
    In February, when Jason first told me about this endlessly wealthy group—about how they would invest in the Alt-Right to the tune of millions, if not billions, and offer Jason the chance to own Arktos outright—my gut arrived at the following odds: There was a 90 percent chance Jason was delusional or engaging in wishful thinking; there was a 9 percent chance he was being deceptive or manipulative, and there was a one percent chance the story was actually true! After our magical funding was “delayed” for various illogical reasons, each one more baffling than the last, Daniel, Tor, and I began politely rolling our eyes every time Jason would bring it up.
    [...]
    Moreover, Jason’s public announcements—and bragging to an antifa infiltrator—of a connection to Steve Bannon is unsound and unwise to an extreme degree. First, if one has such an entrée into the inner-sanctum, it’s best not to talk about it, particularly with a person one has just met. And while Bannon might have read Julius Evola, every interview and public statement he has made reveals a man whose political philosophy was formed by the 2000s-era Tea Party, not by the Italian aristocratic radical.

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  42. I saw one reader at the NYT speculate about whether Greg Johnson could have a woman in his life, considering his attitudes. She surely has no clue Johnson is a queer as the crows and is “out” about it. An NYT reading Nice White Lady would blow a mental fuse trying to figure all that out.

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  43. There is something… Himmler-like about Greg Johnson. Something pathological. He lacks the humanist touch. His homo-ness is too perfectionist about stuff. Too finicky. Humans need to be more like canines than felines. We are social creatures.

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  44. Sam McGowan says: • Website
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    "His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the ‘white trash’ remark."

    White Trash is an entirely objective and accurate assessment of the comments section of altright.com.

    Actually, “white trash” is a term originally used by slaves for the unfortunate whites who eaked out a living doing odd jobs for the slave’s masters. Slaves looked down on white trash.

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  45. An interesting fact: one of Hope Not Hate’s directors is Ruth Smeeth, a former Israel lobby spin doctor who is now an MP in the Labour party.

    She demanded (anti-war) Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn resign after she was criticised by a (black) activist, who she accused of being anti-Semitic.

    Marc Wadsworth accused Smeeth of collusion with the right-wing press to unseat Corbyn, who is currently facing a coup attempt by a majority of his own party’s lawmakers.

    Speaking from the floor, Wadsworth told those gathered at the launch: “I saw that the Telegraph handed a copy of a press release to Ruth Smeeth MP, so you can see who’s working hand in hand.”

    Wadsworth had been handing out copies of an activist press release which condemned Labour MPs who resigned from Corbyn’s shadow cabinet this week and called for him to step down. “The groundswell against the traitors will get much bigger,” it said.

    Smeeth walked out of the packed press conference and claimed in a statement that she had been “verbally attacked” by a “Jeremy Corbyn supporter who used traditional anti-Semitic slurs to attack me for being part of a ‘media conspiracy.’

    But audio of the press conference recorded by The Electronic Intifada shows that nowhere in Wadsworth’s question did he say anything about a “media conspiracy” or about Jews.

    Wadsworth said in a statement that Smeeth’s claims were “poisonous slander” and he had not even known Smeeth was Jewish. Tweets by the Telegraph journalist in question support this, indicating that Wadsworth had had to ask Smeeth what her name was when she had approached him before the event.

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  46. iffen says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    Swedish boneheads have sent one of their own to infiltrate the Alt-Right on behalf of the British Harpies in Hope Not Hate. The New York Times prints up his writings on the matter. Sweden is experiencing extreme multicultural mayhem caused by mass immigration, and this 25 year-old Swede takes advantage of the old cat ladies in Hope Not Hate to get some free travel and fun in the United States.

    The areas of Swedish settlement in the United States have followed the example of their blood back in Sweden by pouring REFUGEE OVERLOAD into Minnesota in the form of a hundred thousand Somalians. American history tells us that there once was a time when non-Swedes in America enjoyed using the term "Dumb Swede." They may have been right.

    This Tweet from 2015 signals my opinion of Swedes and Swedish Americans who push mass immigration and multiculturalism in their respective countries:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/659423651259949056

    dumber than Carson-supporting Iowa evangelicals.

    You is so smart.

    Let’s see you restore your European Christian nation without the support of Evangelical Christians.

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  47. Commenter iffen says:

    Let’s see you restore your European Christian nation without the support of Evangelical Christians.

    I say:

    The evangelicals in the United States are led by evil, ungodly fakers who use their votes to enrich themselves or acquire political power. The evangelicals are led by Mammonites who sell out their flock and their country for money.

    I love the evangelicals and it would be a great goal for the patriotic Alt-Right political movement to win the allegiance of the evangelicals. The evangelicals are great patriots who know in their hearts that something sinful and infinitely wicked has taken hold of the soul of the United States of America.

    I would tell the evangelicals that ungodly, compromised whores such as Russell Moore are false leaders who do not have their best interests at heart. The evangelicals must be suspicious of scum like Russell Moore who take money from evil globalizers like George Soros. Russell Moore is paid to be an unholy whore for the plutocratic interests that push nation-wrecking mass immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    A Moore of a different sort is about to defeat the money-grubbing whore named Luther Strange in Alabama. I am happy as can be about that. Roy Moore is a good man who will fight for the people of Alabama. God bless him. Luther Strange is a nasty whore for the horrible Mammonites in the US Chamber of Commerce. Evangelicals in Alabama will vote for the good Moore named Roy against the bad whore named Strange.

    God Bless The Evangelical Patriots Of the United States!

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  48. iffen says:

    Evangelicals in Alabama will vote for the good Moore named Roy

    Yes we will.

    (I miss the good ole days when we could vote as many times as we wanted.)

    Here come da Judge!!!

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  49. fnn says:

    The mild-mannered Andy Nowicki on the Charlottesville events:

    https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/tkelly6785757/episodes/2017-08-20T04_30_02-07_00

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  50. c matt says:

    Maybe he should use those mad Swedish undercover skills to infiltrate some of the Swedish No-Go zones? He could dye his hair and get a tan.

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  51. KenH says:

    Yawn. All these anti-white nationalist/anti-alt-right hit pieces follow the standard template. We’re pure, unmitigated evil and must be stopped because we don’t hate ourselves like good white people and don’t wish to become a persecuted minority in our own nations.

    The same blockheads who decry the rise of white nationalism and the alt-right find redeeming qualities in black and Latino nationalism and Muslim fundamentalism.

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  52. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    a little late with this but…

    Fw: NYTimes.com: Undercover With the Alt-Right (Who gets center-stage by the jews….genuine nazis like…Greg Johnson. Or, the cagier Neo-nazi Richard Spencer, both queers.)

    so, both of these guys are cherry-picked and groomed by the jews as Poster Boys for White Nationalism. Controlling the Opposition is not as good as establishing poster-boys to damage and queer.. ….just who you want to… in order to discredit and tar the whole movement with, in this case….Nazi Scum. Later, the jews will feature exhibit B, wherein Johnson and Spencer will be proven to be genuine nazis which any casual reading of their words reveals.

    Exhibit C will then proceed to discuss less visible but nonetheless credibly proven to be…yes..nazis, as well. Even Johnson’s dog, Rockwell, will be indicted, and fair enough since we are in a war now. WN has largely been, at least in the US, a kind of club with make-believe futures of Possibility. It could afford to harbor toy soldiers, or toy theorists. Now that the Future is actually here, with most of us caught flat-footed, (think 1917 not that it is dramatically similar) we are letting our amateur posers march around attracting the Jews, etc, and get their names in print. These poseurs have also embarrassed Trump, and contributed to his troubles. David Duke has been the most weird, yammering on like Trump actually is tuning-in for instructions from The Chief.

    So, our White Nationalism has permitted these creatures like Johnson and Spencer and Duke to strut in the jewish limelight like the jewyorktimes…..Springtime for HItler all over again.

    Only the scam is a bit different from the movie, but The Producers are still Jews. You do not have to buy them…they got lots of dough, like Spencer, just spell their names right, and often.

    The only thing left to do right now is for recognized WN leaders who have been around for many years to denounce Johnson and Spencer, and for that matter, flamer Milo and other hustlers, juvenile delinquents, and sexual deviants because none of it sells to the general square White audience.

    Hipsters, queers, trannies of various types….freaks, in other words, are a total disaster for us. We need to clean up and clean out the lumpen elements which today are the cool guys with fashy haircuts, tattoos and psychopath written all over them, especially like Greg Johnson, the most psychopathic of them all. To know them is to loathe them.

    Joe Webb

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    Yeah, all the WNs need is more internal strife. That'll show them liberals!
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  53. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    a little late with this but...


    Fw: NYTimes.com: Undercover With the Alt-Right (Who gets center-stage by the jews....genuine nazis like...Greg Johnson. Or, the cagier Neo-nazi Richard Spencer, both queers.)

    so, both of these guys are cherry-picked and groomed by the jews as Poster Boys for White Nationalism. Controlling the Opposition is not as good as establishing poster-boys to damage and queer.. ....just who you want to... in order to discredit and tar the whole movement with, in this case....Nazi Scum. Later, the jews will feature exhibit B, wherein Johnson and Spencer will be proven to be genuine nazis which any casual reading of their words reveals.

    Exhibit C will then proceed to discuss less visible but nonetheless credibly proven to be...yes..nazis, as well. Even Johnson's dog, Rockwell, will be indicted, and fair enough since we are in a war now. WN has largely been, at least in the US, a kind of club with make-believe futures of Possibility. It could afford to harbor toy soldiers, or toy theorists. Now that the Future is actually here, with most of us caught flat-footed, (think 1917 not that it is dramatically similar) we are letting our amateur posers march around attracting the Jews, etc, and get their names in print. These poseurs have also embarrassed Trump, and contributed to his troubles. David Duke has been the most weird, yammering on like Trump actually is tuning-in for instructions from The Chief.

    So, our White Nationalism has permitted these creatures like Johnson and Spencer and Duke to strut in the jewish limelight like the jewyorktimes.....Springtime for HItler all over again.

    Only the scam is a bit different from the movie, but The Producers are still Jews. You do not have to buy them...they got lots of dough, like Spencer, just spell their names right, and often.

    The only thing left to do right now is for recognized WN leaders who have been around for many years to denounce Johnson and Spencer, and for that matter, flamer Milo and other hustlers, juvenile delinquents, and sexual deviants because none of it sells to the general square White audience.

    Hipsters, queers, trannies of various types....freaks, in other words, are a total disaster for us. We need to clean up and clean out the lumpen elements which today are the cool guys with fashy haircuts, tattoos and psychopath written all over them, especially like Greg Johnson, the most psychopathic of them all. To know them is to loathe them.

    Joe Webb

    Yeah, all the WNs need is more internal strife. That’ll show them liberals!

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  54. All hail Israel! Land of the morally chosen! Read NYT and WAPO please. No boycott Israel.

    NO I am NOT JIDF. I AM PAID NOTHING TO SAY THIS.

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  55. Svigor says:

    What is worse is that in the long months of the Spring of 2017, as I waited for funding to materialize, I watched the corporation that was my brainchild turn into a magnet for white trash.

    WOGs and mystery meat love using that term, “white trash.” Like we’re supposed to forget they’re the rare functional psychopaths from their shithole countries full of trash.

    Also, altright.com was devised for topical issues, not indepth intellectual discourse.

    What in depth intellectual discourse? There isn’t any. It’s White Meat vs. Mystery Meat. The left has all the depth of a puddle.

    This is a ridiculous amount of attention for such a marginal, deeply underground group that could at best field a couple of dozen at Charlottesville. Nobody would have even heard of alt-right had they not originated the clever cuck moniker, and had Hillary not denounced a movement nobody knew one thing about.

    Poll week after Charlottesville showed 10% of Americans “strongly support” the alt right.

    And there were more like 1k altrighters @ Cville.

    You might as well report on the “left” by infiltrating an antifa gang and ignoring the supporters of Bernie Sanders.

    It’s more who you send, than who you send them after. Easy money that an altrighter infiltrating antifa would be far more honest (and thorough – I doubt the antifa faggot from Sweden listened to anything in his time under cover.

    Of course we all know the NYT would never publish it. That would be reciprocity and Jews and leftists loathe reciprocity.

    He didn’t know the secret handshake, so he didn’t learn the real secrets. That really dark stuff, like wanting our kids to have a real chance in a sane world rather than being discriminated against, physically pummeled, and eventually sent off to the camps as the unwanted, undesired minority. Yeah, I know that’s rayciss, but nobody was going to speak for me when they came for me, and I decided I didn’t want to just go quietly.

    Ethnic and racial strife can’t happen in homogeneous countries. The left is on a mission to end all (white) homogeneous countries and make the whole (white) world as diverse as possible. You don’t need a slide rule to figure it out; the left is on a mission to foment ethnic and racial strife in all (white) countries.

    White Trash is an entirely objective and accurate assessment of the comments section of altright.com.

    White Trash:
    Leftist Whites
    Leftist Jews

    Yeah, like the sub-human species known as “white trash,” don’t exist?

    Whites & white trash> non-whites> you.

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  56. Svigor says:

    “White Trash” = uppity whites. Whites who don’t want non-whites and anti-white groups around. Who don’t feel compelled to regale non-whites with tales of how welcome they are, and don’t give a fuck who doesn’t like it.

    If all whites woke up tomorrow feeling this way, they’d all be “white trash” in the eyes of these grifting groups (Jews, Southwest Asians, South Asians, Caucasians, etc.).

    “White trash” = “no longer useful idiots.”

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  57. Svigor says:

    Darkies and swarthoids, FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR HOMELANDS. The ones who talk shit on whites can be first in line.

    Actually that is just for the ones in the west, or working that angle. Everybody knows they’re the ones invested in western immigration policy, attitude toward invaders. The ones not in the west or working that angle are fine, because they don’t have their hands in whitey’s pocket.

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  58. Lurker says:
    @Anon
    "His contempt for white people also comes across very clearly with the ‘white trash’ remark."

    White Trash is an entirely objective and accurate assessment of the comments section of altright.com.

    That you Thomm? Or John Engleman?

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  59. Lurker says:

    As Mr. Hermansson has had the inside track at HnH and the AltRight perhaps he could clarify a few things?

    Why must white people become minorities everywhere, including Europe?

    If borders don’t matter and everyone is interchangeable, how is that countries are different from each other? Why is Somalia not already identical to Sweden for example?

    If non-whites really are better than white people and less racist, why must non-whites live surrounded be evil white bigots?

    Etc etc

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