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The 'Washington Post' 'Blacklist' Story Is Shameful and Disgusting

Last week, a technology reporter for the Washington Post named Craig Timberg ran an incredible story. It has no analog that I can think of in modern times. Headlined “Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say,” the piece promotes the work of a shadowy group that smears some 200 alternative news outlets as either knowing or unwitting agents of a foreign power, including popular sites like Truthdig and Naked Capitalism.

The thrust of Timberg’s astonishingly lazy report is that a Russian intelligence operation of some kind was behind the publication of a “hurricane” of false news reports during the election season, in particular stories harmful to Hillary Clinton. The piece referenced those 200 websites as “routine peddlers of Russian propaganda.”

The piece relied on what it claimed were “two teams of independent researchers,” but the citing of a report by the longtime anticommunist Foreign Policy Research Institute was really window dressing.

The meat of the story relied on a report by unnamed analysts from a single mysterious “organization” called PropOrNot – we don’t know if it’s one person or, as it claims, over 30 – a “group” that seems to have been in existence for just a few months.

It was PropOrNot’s report that identified what it calls “the list” of 200 offending sites. Outlets as diverse as AntiWar.com, LewRockwell.com and the Ron Paul Institute were described as either knowingly directed by Russian intelligence, or “useful idiots” who unwittingly did the bidding of foreign masters.

Forget that the Post offered no information about the “PropOrNot” group beyond that they were “a collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds.”

Forget also that the group offered zero concrete evidence of coordination with Russian intelligence agencies, even offering this remarkable disclaimer about its analytic methods:

“Please note that our criteria are behavioral. … For purposes of this definition it does not matter … whether they even knew they were echoing Russian propaganda at any particular point: If they meet these criteria, they are at the very least acting as bona-fide ‘useful idiots’ of the Russian intelligence services, and are worthy of further scrutiny.”

What this apparently means is that if you published material that meets their definition of being “useful” to the Russian state, you could be put on the “list,” and “warrant further scrutiny.”

Forget even that in its Twitter responses to criticism of its report, PropOrNot sounded not like a group of sophisticated military analysts, but like one teenager:

“Awww, wook at all the angwy Putinists, trying to change the subject – they’re so vewwy angwy!!” it wrote on Saturday.

“Fascists. Straight up muthafuckin’ fascists. That’s what we’re up against,” it wrote last Tuesday, two days before Timberg’s report.

Any halfway decent editor would have been scared to death by any of these factors. Moreover the vast majority of reporters would have needed to see something a lot more concrete than a half-assed theoretical paper from such a dicey source before denouncing 200 news organizations as traitors.

 
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    lol, I may disagree with most of what Taibbi writes, but he’s never dull

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  2. The Russian/Putin Troll army was real, but that was back in 2014 mostly. I battled them and dealt with them personally, but they are not around anymore. Their trolling efforts backfired pretty much, because they were not subtle enough and so they turned off many Westerners through their in-your-face pro-Putin propaganda.
    Russians are terrible at trolling, because they don’t have a very sophisticated sense of humor and don’t really understand American culture and sensibilities.

    Trump and Alt Right ‘Trolls’ are not Russian agents and are a completely different animal than the Putin Troll Army. They have a more sophisticated sense of humor than the corrupt, elitist American MSM caste. This is why they and Trump won, and why the unfunny MSM lost.

    Russia’s Online Troll Army Is Huge, Hilarious & Already Everywhere

    Published on Jun 3, 2014

    “Russia’s campaign to shape international opinion around its invasion of Ukraine has extended to recruiting and training a new cadre of online trolls that have been deployed to spread the Kremlin’s message on the comments section of top American websites.

    Plans attached to emails leaked by a mysterious Russian hacker collective show IT managers reporting on a new ideological front against the West in the comments sections of Fox News, Huffington Post, The Blaze, Politico, and WorldNetDaily.

    The bizarre hive of social media activity appears to be part of a two-pronged Kremlin campaign to claim control over the internet, launching a million-dollar army of trolls to mold American public opinion as it cracks down on internet freedom at home.”* The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur breaks it down.

    Firing Squad – Monty Python’s Flying Circus

    Laibach – The Whistleblowers 2.0 – Assange+Snowden+Manning +…version

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    • Replies: @Boris N
    Russian trolls, if there were any significant number of them at all, have been overwhelmed by the hordes of American, (mostly East) European and Ukrainian trolls. As usual if one wants to cover his own sins then he loudly blames others. The West have been doing this old trick perfectly against Russia for the past decade at least.
    , @Alfred1860
    Russia didn't invade Ukraine, I thought everyone here knew that.
  3. So true, this is from yesterdays Washington Post with regard to Kellogg /Breitbart:

    Kellogg’s has announced that it will pull all advertising from the site.

    The company cited concerns that Breitbart News, which has been described by many as portraying alt-right ideals, does not align with its values. The term “alt-right” is described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as “a set of far-right ideologies, groups and individuals… etc.

    Breitbart happens to be the favorite news source of traditional Constitution supporting Americans who voted for Trump, and who the WaPo insist on characterizing as misogynists, racists, xenophobes and primitive trailer trash (shorthand “Deplorables”).

    I don’t know what this is but it isn’t journalism (and the Kellogg marketing department also gets a big fail as half of the US is currently tossing out their products).

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  4. Off topic: wouldn’t a simple vote audit be really easy? Randomly select 1000 voters who checked in at the poles last Nov 8 (and so presumably voted) and confirm the legitimacy of their registrations to vote. If a 10,000 sample were taken, it could be stated with near certainty that there is or isn’t corruption in our voting process.

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    • Replies: @Alfa158
    There is no chance of that happening unless the Democrats get to carefully select the random voters so that the outcome supports their no illegal voting at all narrative.
    Anything else, and the howls of "Voter Suppression!!!!!!!" will be echoing off the mountains.
    , @OutWest
    But this would require an honest selector. Florida redux.
    , @Hibernian
    Makes too much sense.
  5. Outlets as diverse as AntiWar.com, LewRockwell.com and the Ron Paul Institute were described as either knowingly directed by Russian intelligence, or “useful idiots” who unwittingly did the bidding of foreign masters.

    It doesn’t matter that this fake news meme is an absurdity. It’s their story and they will stick to it. We are being set up for a lock down of the internet. Enjoy the Unz Review while you can. And realize that the Washington Post, and not Vladimir Putin, is an enemy of the people.

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  6. Matt Taibbi. This is the guy who gave cover to the Jewish oligarchs of Russia, during his time at The Exile.

    Rolling Stone. This is the rag that published Erdely’s racist (misanthropic, really, but who cares about hating all of humankind; racism’s sooo much worse), sexist (ditto) rape-hoax screed against UVA.

    Sure, Taibbi’s better than most of the complete whore-journalists (redundant, I know) out there, but it’s a matter of degree.

    All of that said, Taibbi has a point.

    including popular leftist sites like Truthdig and Naked Capitalism.

    Fixed it for ya, Matty.

    It was PropOrNot’s report that identified what it calls “the list” of 200 offending sites. Outlets as diverse as AntiWar.com, LewRockwell.com and the Ron Paul Institute

    Funny, the only “right” sites Taibbi mentions are all libertardian. I was just mentioning the other day, how libertardians are phony rightists.

    Useful idiots for leftists, basically. Anti-war (defund the military-industrial complex! (but keep the welfare state and mass immigration)). Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul(small gov’t…for the right!). Moar heroin! Etc.

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  7. The Russian/Putin Troll army was real, but that was back in 2014 mostly. I battled them and dealt with them personally, but they are not around anymore. Their trolling efforts backfired pretty much, because they were not subtle enough and so they turned off many Westerners through their in-your-face pro-Putin propaganda.

    YYYYEP. I was more pro-Russia BEFORE the last few years of pro-Russian trollery, specifically because of their assholery.

    I had a similar experience with Chechens; I came away from reading their apologia hating them more than I did before. It’s things that people are communicating, that they don’t know they’re communicating, that give the most information. Hyperbolic hypothetical example: “yes, of course I cut his throat, he looked at me funny. Like you’d have done any different, lulz.”

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  8. @David
    Off topic: wouldn't a simple vote audit be really easy? Randomly select 1000 voters who checked in at the poles last Nov 8 (and so presumably voted) and confirm the legitimacy of their registrations to vote. If a 10,000 sample were taken, it could be stated with near certainty that there is or isn't corruption in our voting process.

    There is no chance of that happening unless the Democrats get to carefully select the random voters so that the outcome supports their no illegal voting at all narrative.
    Anything else, and the howls of “Voter Suppression!!!!!!!” will be echoing off the mountains.

    Read More
  9. @David
    Off topic: wouldn't a simple vote audit be really easy? Randomly select 1000 voters who checked in at the poles last Nov 8 (and so presumably voted) and confirm the legitimacy of their registrations to vote. If a 10,000 sample were taken, it could be stated with near certainty that there is or isn't corruption in our voting process.

    But this would require an honest selector. Florida redux.

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  10. Without irony, Taibbi goes on to list the alt-right, Alex Jones, and Trump as disseminators of fake news:

    The “Russians did it” story was greedily devoured by a growing segment of blue-state America that is beginning to fall victim to the same conspiracist tendencies that became epidemic on the political right in the last few years.

    The right-wing fascination with conspiracy has culminated in a situation where someone like Alex Jones of Infowars (who believes juice boxes make frogs gay) is considered a news source. Jones is believed even by our new president-elect, who just repeated one of his outrageous reports, to the effect that three million undocumented immigrants voted in the November 8th election.

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  11. The right-wing fascination with conspiracy has culminated in a situation where someone like Alex Jones of Infowars (who believes juice boxes make frogs gay) is considered a news source. Jones is believed even by our new president-elect, who just repeated one of his outrageous reports, to the effect that three million undocumented immigrants voted in the November 8th election.

    Hussein publicly urged criminal aliens to vote, and promised there would be no repercussions if they did.

    Only a complete loony like the PotUS would believe that this could have any effect.

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  12. @David
    Off topic: wouldn't a simple vote audit be really easy? Randomly select 1000 voters who checked in at the poles last Nov 8 (and so presumably voted) and confirm the legitimacy of their registrations to vote. If a 10,000 sample were taken, it could be stated with near certainty that there is or isn't corruption in our voting process.

    Makes too much sense.

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  13. The media is mostly on the “same team” – all of it. They are particularly successful when they make the claim that the other guys’ news is fake, and theirs is the whole truth. (Which they hope shuts out the possibility that readers will become aware that anything they read could be filled with bias, propaganda and misleading disinformation at least some of the time)

    Every outlet has their fan base, and the media that found themselves on the “blacklist” are playing it for all it’s worth, thus giving a ridiculous “news story” ever more credibility. See how the people are played? It’s not an intellectual discussion of the content itself, it’s an amplification of: “Russia – they did or they didn’t!” Meanwhile, real information that might be valuable to the public is buried, locked away, kept away and largely verbotten by our corrupt forth estate.

    This ain’t yellow dog journalism, this is another workover of the American mind. You do remember the purpose of the press?

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  14. The Washington Post is disgraceful and disgusting, but so is Rolling Stone. Much ado about very little, here.

    The ‘Alternative Media’ — of which the Unz Review is a prime example — is the only media worth reading.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Unz.com is worth reading because it is alternative media, thus having greater leeway in speculative reporting.
    But it would require higher standards of professionalism and reporting IF it were mainstream media.

    What is deeply troubling about the MSM is that it has very low standards in this regard.
    If anything, alternative media, with all its faults and fantasies, made headway because the MSM has been so filled with lies.
    Like the story of beach closing in Chicago due to 'heat' when it was blacks.

    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2011/05/shutting-down-beach.html

    From local to national to international news, the media have turned piss poor.
    Why? It is mainstream in name only.

    When most of media is held by a small minority, it reflects that group's tribal interests than that of the whole nation.
    Media may have been more 'racist' in the past, but it was more reflective of the majority.
    Over time, media came to reflect minority's imposition of its will on the majority.
    And with the rise of this minority-ism as the new normal, much of the media turned into homo worship. Media coverage of homos is like Catholic media's coverage of the pope.

    And due to MLK cult and Negro-worship, there is no truthful reporting about black problems.

    So, the media turned into the biased voice of the minority elites posing as the Fake Mainstream.

    So, the true mainstream sought out 'alternative news' that actually report on stuff that has more relevance to majority of Americans.
    , @Corvinus
    "The Washington Post is disgraceful and disgusting, but so is Rolling Stone. Much ado about very little, here."

    No. High IQ whites realize that news from both the mainstream and alternative media have facts and biases, and they use their powers of reason to disseminate information and figure out from their stories what is accurate.
  15. Look, no one here is going to fall for the “Matt Taibbi is even handed or maybe even on our side” line. My reaction was more, look, even Matt Taibbi thinks the WaPo has gone off the rails.

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  16. @FKA Max
    The Russian/Putin Troll army was real, but that was back in 2014 mostly. I battled them and dealt with them personally, but they are not around anymore. Their trolling efforts backfired pretty much, because they were not subtle enough and so they turned off many Westerners through their in-your-face pro-Putin propaganda.
    Russians are terrible at trolling, because they don't have a very sophisticated sense of humor and don't really understand American culture and sensibilities.

    Trump and Alt Right 'Trolls' are not Russian agents and are a completely different animal than the Putin Troll Army. They have a more sophisticated sense of humor than the corrupt, elitist American MSM caste. This is why they and Trump won, and why the unfunny MSM lost.

    Russia's Online Troll Army Is Huge, Hilarious & Already Everywhere

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CussBbmJHzI

    Published on Jun 3, 2014

    "Russia's campaign to shape international opinion around its invasion of Ukraine has extended to recruiting and training a new cadre of online trolls that have been deployed to spread the Kremlin's message on the comments section of top American websites.

    Plans attached to emails leaked by a mysterious Russian hacker collective show IT managers reporting on a new ideological front against the West in the comments sections of Fox News, Huffington Post, The Blaze, Politico, and WorldNetDaily.

    The bizarre hive of social media activity appears to be part of a two-pronged Kremlin campaign to claim control over the internet, launching a million-dollar army of trolls to mold American public opinion as it cracks down on internet freedom at home."* The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur breaks it down.

    Firing Squad - Monty Python's Flying Circus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1TN8Xb_RcM

    Laibach - The Whistleblowers 2.0 - Assange+Snowden+Manning +...version

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5GaqdVtNag

    Russian trolls, if there were any significant number of them at all, have been overwhelmed by the hordes of American, (mostly East) European and Ukrainian trolls. As usual if one wants to cover his own sins then he loudly blames others. The West have been doing this old trick perfectly against Russia for the past decade at least.

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  17. @FKA Max
    The Russian/Putin Troll army was real, but that was back in 2014 mostly. I battled them and dealt with them personally, but they are not around anymore. Their trolling efforts backfired pretty much, because they were not subtle enough and so they turned off many Westerners through their in-your-face pro-Putin propaganda.
    Russians are terrible at trolling, because they don't have a very sophisticated sense of humor and don't really understand American culture and sensibilities.

    Trump and Alt Right 'Trolls' are not Russian agents and are a completely different animal than the Putin Troll Army. They have a more sophisticated sense of humor than the corrupt, elitist American MSM caste. This is why they and Trump won, and why the unfunny MSM lost.

    Russia's Online Troll Army Is Huge, Hilarious & Already Everywhere

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CussBbmJHzI

    Published on Jun 3, 2014

    "Russia's campaign to shape international opinion around its invasion of Ukraine has extended to recruiting and training a new cadre of online trolls that have been deployed to spread the Kremlin's message on the comments section of top American websites.

    Plans attached to emails leaked by a mysterious Russian hacker collective show IT managers reporting on a new ideological front against the West in the comments sections of Fox News, Huffington Post, The Blaze, Politico, and WorldNetDaily.

    The bizarre hive of social media activity appears to be part of a two-pronged Kremlin campaign to claim control over the internet, launching a million-dollar army of trolls to mold American public opinion as it cracks down on internet freedom at home."* The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur breaks it down.

    Firing Squad - Monty Python's Flying Circus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1TN8Xb_RcM

    Laibach - The Whistleblowers 2.0 - Assange+Snowden+Manning +...version

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5GaqdVtNag

    Russia didn’t invade Ukraine, I thought everyone here knew that.

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  18. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Kyle McKenna
    The Washington Post is disgraceful and disgusting, but so is Rolling Stone. Much ado about very little, here.

    The 'Alternative Media' -- of which the Unz Review is a prime example -- is the only media worth reading.

    Unz.com is worth reading because it is alternative media, thus having greater leeway in speculative reporting.
    But it would require higher standards of professionalism and reporting IF it were mainstream media.

    What is deeply troubling about the MSM is that it has very low standards in this regard.
    If anything, alternative media, with all its faults and fantasies, made headway because the MSM has been so filled with lies.
    Like the story of beach closing in Chicago due to ‘heat’ when it was blacks.

    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2011/05/shutting-down-beach.html

    From local to national to international news, the media have turned piss poor.
    Why? It is mainstream in name only.

    When most of media is held by a small minority, it reflects that group’s tribal interests than that of the whole nation.
    Media may have been more ‘racist’ in the past, but it was more reflective of the majority.
    Over time, media came to reflect minority’s imposition of its will on the majority.
    And with the rise of this minority-ism as the new normal, much of the media turned into homo worship. Media coverage of homos is like Catholic media’s coverage of the pope.

    And due to MLK cult and Negro-worship, there is no truthful reporting about black problems.

    So, the media turned into the biased voice of the minority elites posing as the Fake Mainstream.

    So, the true mainstream sought out ‘alternative news’ that actually report on stuff that has more relevance to majority of Americans.

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  19. @Kyle McKenna
    The Washington Post is disgraceful and disgusting, but so is Rolling Stone. Much ado about very little, here.

    The 'Alternative Media' -- of which the Unz Review is a prime example -- is the only media worth reading.

    “The Washington Post is disgraceful and disgusting, but so is Rolling Stone. Much ado about very little, here.”

    No. High IQ whites realize that news from both the mainstream and alternative media have facts and biases, and they use their powers of reason to disseminate information and figure out from their stories what is accurate.

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  20. Somebody in the new Trump government, with full deniability, needs to tell Jeff Bezos to divest himself of the Washington Post, STFU on politics and will leave Amazon alone. Tell him if he complies will throw his Blue Origin rocket company a few government contracts. But if he keeps it up, go full on Teddy Roosevelt trust busting, anti-monopoly suit against Amazon, with all the might the government can muster.

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    • Replies: @Cato
    You are advocating crony capitalism. Hope that never happens!
  21. Look, no one here is going to fall for the “Matt Taibbi is even handed or maybe even on our side” line. My reaction was more, look, even Matt Taibbi thinks the WaPo has gone off the rails.

    Taibbi’s a good example of “the enemy of my enemy who isn’t enough of an enemy of my enemy to be my friend.”

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  22. @George Taylor
    Somebody in the new Trump government, with full deniability, needs to tell Jeff Bezos to divest himself of the Washington Post, STFU on politics and will leave Amazon alone. Tell him if he complies will throw his Blue Origin rocket company a few government contracts. But if he keeps it up, go full on Teddy Roosevelt trust busting, anti-monopoly suit against Amazon, with all the might the government can muster.

    You are advocating crony capitalism. Hope that never happens!

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  23. they doesn’t like Putin cuz he was mean to Pussy Riot, who smiled at their trial cuz they were “sardonic.”

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