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The white supremacists on the far right have “yellow fever” — an Asian woman fetish. It’s a confusing mix.

Andrew Anglin, the founder of the neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer, once posted a video of himself with a Filipina he called “my jailbait girlfriend,” the young couple flirting as they sauntered through a megamall in the Philippines. Richard Spencer, a white nationalist, has dated a series of Asian-American women, according to one of his ex-girlfriends. (Mr. Spencer insists that it was before he embraced white nationalism.)

The right-wing agitator Mike Cernovich, the writer John Derbyshire and an alt-right figure named Kyle Chapman (so notorious for swinging a lead-filled stick at Trump opponents at a protest in Berkeley, Calif., that he is now a meme) are all married to women of Asian descent. As a commenter wrote on an alt-right forum, “exclusively” dating Asian women is practically a “white-nationalist rite of passage.”

In November 2016, a photo of Tila Tequila giving a Nazi salute went viral. Ms. Tequila is the Vietnamese-American star of the short-lived MTV reality show “A Shot at Love With Tila Tequila,” and she was saluting at a dinner the night before the conference of Richard Spencer’s white-supremacist think tank, the National Policy Institute. At the conference, Mr. Spencer had reminded attendees that America was a “white country designed for ourselves and our posterity.”

Maybe it makes sense that the alt-right is so confused: On a neo-Nazi news site, a user asked advice on whether he could be a white nationalist if he slept with East Asian women, and he received dozens of spirited responses from both sides. But the white-supremacist Asian fetish is no contradiction.

Maybe it makes sense that the alt-right is so confused: On a neo-Nazi news site, a user asked advice on whether he could be a white nationalist if he slept with East Asian women, and he received dozens of spirited responses from both sides. But the white-supremacist Asian fetish is no contradiction.

It exists at the intersection of two popular racial myths. First is the idea of the “model minority,” in which Asian-Americans are painted as all hard-working, high-achieving and sufficiently well-behaved to assimilate. If Asians are the model minority — if that is how nonwhites can find acceptance in white America — then perhaps that opens the door to acceptance from white supremacists.

 
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  1. nebulafox says:

    Asian-Americans aren’t an unified bunch, first off. Chinese, Indian, Korean, Vietnamese, Filipino, Japanese, whatever culture all have drastic differences to them. Khmer immigrants in the Pacific Northwest tend to be rather blue-collar bunch with high rates of crime, low rates of education, and (sadly yet predictably) high rates of PTSD for the older generation, contrary to the Asian upwardly mobile stereotype, for example. Many Filipinos in the United States came by connections to the military, whereas most of the first post-1965 wave of migrants from China and Taiwan (1970s-early 1990s) were professorial types-they were the only ones allowed in. Then you had the Koreans, who had people in both camps.

    (Heck, China and India have dozens of regions that are all drastically different from each other-there are big differences between the mainly Cantonese old-style Chinatowns founded in the 1800s and the “professor wave” of the 1980s and newer places like Flushing that attract a lot of Northeasterners and Fujianese. And India’s many peoples often don’t even share the same alphabet or skin color.)

    >then perhaps that opens the door to acceptance from white supremacists.

    Isn’t is a very odd white supremacist that doesn’t think that whites are… well, supreme? One would think that they’d view whites as the most intrinsically superior, intelligent race there is. Yet plenty of so-called “white supremacists” readily admit that Asians have higher IQs, higher academic success, by and large a better work ethic, etc. I don’t think many would deny that if college admissions were remotely fair in the United States, MIT and Harvard would be 90, 95% East and South Asian.

    White supremacists are a small subsection of what can be nebulously termed “the alt-right”. No more, no less. Here on Unz, you see libertarians, paleocons, monarchists, technocrats… atheists and religious, populists and anti-populists alike, all sorts. Only united by a broadly defined “right-wing” political orientation and an (often well justified) distaste for one or more aspects of the failed “three-legged stool” of post-1992 GOP ideology-to say nothing of the Party itself-that prevents them from identifying with the Republican Party and Conservatism Inc.

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    Here on Unz, you see libertarians, paleocons, monarchists, technocrats… atheists and religious, populists and anti-populists alike, all sorts.
     
    This is true. And yet, all of them have yellow fever.
    , @Anonymous
    Feeling America was a European creation that should remain a Western Culture populated primarily by people of European decent doesn't mean you are a 'White Supremisist'

    I doubt somebody like Derbyshire or Sailor calls themselves or sees themselves as 'Supreme'

    This is just typical NY Times language games meant to paint their ideological enemies as uber-villains.

    The overwhelming majority of Americans even 40-50 years ago would just assume the USA was a Western (white/European) country and would naturally want to keep it that way. This Multicultural idea is the radical, new ideology, not the 'White Supremacist' outlook.
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    This is an off-topic comment.

    1) Why is the “books” on the two “header rows” not linking to any page? (I remember there is a Books section on this site.)

    2) I think Mr. Unz should contact a good columnist who could provide an Islamic viewpoint.
    Have been reading about Sufi Islam, and contemplative Islam, and it led me to think it’s a pity no-one in the columnist roster here comes from that type of culture.

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  3. @nebulafox
    Asian-Americans aren't an unified bunch, first off. Chinese, Indian, Korean, Vietnamese, Filipino, Japanese, whatever culture all have drastic differences to them. Khmer immigrants in the Pacific Northwest tend to be rather blue-collar bunch with high rates of crime, low rates of education, and (sadly yet predictably) high rates of PTSD for the older generation, contrary to the Asian upwardly mobile stereotype, for example. Many Filipinos in the United States came by connections to the military, whereas most of the first post-1965 wave of migrants from China and Taiwan (1970s-early 1990s) were professorial types-they were the only ones allowed in. Then you had the Koreans, who had people in both camps.

    (Heck, China and India have dozens of regions that are all drastically different from each other-there are big differences between the mainly Cantonese old-style Chinatowns founded in the 1800s and the "professor wave" of the 1980s and newer places like Flushing that attract a lot of Northeasterners and Fujianese. And India's many peoples often don't even share the same alphabet or skin color.)

    >then perhaps that opens the door to acceptance from white supremacists.

    Isn't is a very odd white supremacist that doesn't think that whites are... well, supreme? One would think that they'd view whites as the most intrinsically superior, intelligent race there is. Yet plenty of so-called "white supremacists" readily admit that Asians have higher IQs, higher academic success, by and large a better work ethic, etc. I don't think many would deny that if college admissions were remotely fair in the United States, MIT and Harvard would be 90, 95% East and South Asian.

    White supremacists are a small subsection of what can be nebulously termed "the alt-right". No more, no less. Here on Unz, you see libertarians, paleocons, monarchists, technocrats... atheists and religious, populists and anti-populists alike, all sorts. Only united by a broadly defined "right-wing" political orientation and an (often well justified) distaste for one or more aspects of the failed "three-legged stool" of post-1992 GOP ideology-to say nothing of the Party itself-that prevents them from identifying with the Republican Party and Conservatism Inc.

    Here on Unz, you see libertarians, paleocons, monarchists, technocrats… atheists and religious, populists and anti-populists alike, all sorts.

    This is true. And yet, all of them have yellow fever.

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I don’t. I’ve honestly never been attracted to Asian women, for whatever reason. I don’t think they are aesthetically unpleasant or anything, nor am I opposed to the possibility of dating one, it is just that I typically don’t get "that" gut, instant reaction to them. (I’ve been attracted to plenty of Hispanic, South American, Middle Eastern, and black women in the past, so it isn't a strict attraction for European or American white women, either.)

    The assumptions people make can be really funny sometimes. People-especially in my physics/math and startup culture milieus-tend to be genuinely surprised about this in real life. I don't know whether it is my looks, interests, or personality: probably a combination of the three. When I was college, I had a conversation with this female Chinese student who genuinely and matter-of-factly suggested that I move to Beijing because "I'd get tons of girls there". My father constantly tells me whenever I'm visiting that he expects me to bring home an Asian woman some day.

    (Ironically, I'd do just that-albeit not to Beijing-though I had no idea at the time.)

    , @Wally
    We see a few examples and supposedly now all these alt-right guys have an Asian fetish.

    I suspect the Asian author, 'Audrea' Lim, with the non-Asian first name, hence she has a fetish for Euro-whites, is engaging in wishful thinking.
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  4. I just always felt an allergy to hypocrisy, which extends to irritation both left and right, but much more so toward the left.

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  5. peterike says:

    Audrea is upset because not enough white guys have yellow fever for her. And she’s from Canada living in Brooklyn. She needs to go back.

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    • Replies: @Backwoods Bob
    Hahahahahaha!

    My God what an ugly toad. The picture speaks a thousand words. You are absolutely spot on.

    "I'm an ugly asshole. But you like her because you're a Nazi."
    , @Anonymous
    Sailer's law of female journalists:

    The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking.
     
    Here we have a simpler scenario - desperate attention-seeking by female journalist reaching out to evil nationalist white males.

    BTW what kind of a name is "Audrea"? Parents trying to find middle ground between "Andrea" and "Audrey"?
    , @Anonymous
    What dolts like Audrea don't realize is that most people whom they apply the 'white supremacist' label to are simply ordinary, hard working people trying to make their way through life, who are labeled supremacists for disagreeing with undeserved hate against them.
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  6. peterike says:

    The second myth is that of the subservient, hypersexual Asian woman.

    Do we have myths about hypersexual Asian women? I’ve never heard that. As for subservient, as our exposure to Asians has increased dramatically, the old “subservient Asian wife” idea is being superseded by the grim reality: the hyper-aggrieved shrieking Asian shrew.

    Mommas, don’t let your babies grow up to marry Asians.

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    As for subservient, as our exposure to Asians has increased dramatically, the old “subservient Asian wife” idea is being superseded by the grim reality: the hyper-aggrieved shrieking Asian shrew.
     
    Perhaps. But remember that Peterike is an incel WN wigger, and thus everything he knows about women (Asian, white, or otherwise) is third-hand knowledge.
    , @nebulafox
    Really? Most of the Chinese guys I've met said their women are ruthless pragmatists and ballbusters who push you hard. Middle Eastern or Indian style submissives, they are not. Granted, most of the Chinese guys I've known (outside of China) were geeks-either hard STEM graduate students or working at places like Microsoft as programmers-so that might have something to with it. ("Am I manipulating him? Of course. But it is for his own good-if left to his own devices, he'll constantly get screwed by employers." I can't help but occasionally wonder whether my own immigrant grandmother thought similarly about my rocket scientist grandfather.)

    This isn't just a Chinese thing-you'd thing that Mexican women are subservient due to the machismo laden culture, but in reality, a lot of Mexican housewives run very, very tight ships, especially when it comes to family finances. This increases with age due to the high social status of older women in Mexican society-to this day, if you are a guy there, you are expected to get up for you seat for one, etc, and "tu madre" is not an insult to be dropped lightly.

    , @George
    "Do we have myths about hypersexual Asian women?"

    2 Live Crew.
    , @llloyd
    I'm married to one and soon found that out. However she is also a lovely person who gets furiously jealous if I so much as look at another woman. The Western female assertiveness is self conscious and does not exist in Asia unless foreign corruption. Asian women are natural flirts like cats that they most resemble. If I am sitting or standing beside a woman young or middle aged in a train or bus in China, most will come on to me. Truly.
    , @Paul
    Yeah yeah. Asian women are a good option for middle of the road white men b/c white women are all looking for Mr Perfect
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  7. jb says:

    I posted a comment to the “Asian Fetish” article very shortly after it showed up, politely rubbing in the fact that the success of Asian Americans (both East and South, two entirely separate groups!) was a huge embarrassment to the orthodox narrative on race in America.

    My comments do show up sometimes, but this one, like many of my most pointed, didn’t. :-(

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    We are getting the cream of these Asians races. Let 's look at the countries whence they come:

    India (average IQ 82). Indians in the West need to go back to help their country.

    China (average IQ 95 - it's not 105). A totalitarian government (I don't care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing. They have too many internal problems, so the suppression of their people will get worse. The Chinese in the West have to go back to see if they can help them.

    Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Laotians - they don't even register as anything worthy. The Japanese are successful within their country and don't need to come to the West.

    It took coming to the West for these "successful Asians" to become successful. Why couldn't they do this in their own countries?

    , @nebulafox
    An even bigger embarrassment to the narrative would be to point out the general economic success of Iranian and Pakistani Americans in an "Islamophobic" society, or how the first generation of Muslim emigrants in France are doing OK socioeconomically and identify wholly as French (and in some cases, vote for Le Pen), in stark contrast to later waves of migrants (who came under an immigration policy that would be much more favored by the bien-pensants today than what the Gaullists did in the 1950s and 1960s) who cause a lot of problems and fit the profile of the Anatolians in Germany and the Mirpurs in Britain. Or the drastic differences between African subgroups. If you look at the achivement and socioeconomic gap between Nigerian and Somali immigrants-or African Americans-it is a pretty good indicator that the story is a little more complicated than a simplistic anti-black conspiracy.

    (Also more complicated than a lot of people here want to make it out to be, but we don't control public policy. One oft-ignored fact is that one specific Nigerian subgroup-the Igbos-manage to outdo the Chinese and the Indians in the UK, which should shed further light on just how complicated this stuff all is.)

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  8. Thomm says:

    I don’t think this article is accurate. Cernovich isn’t really a WN as his primary cause. He is more an ant-feminist (the much more intelligent ideology).

    WNs are, by definition, extremely unattractive to women (particularly white women). That is why the movement is 99% male, and a disproportionate share of those men are gay.

    Among the few WNs that are straight and not outright incels, there is a prominent WN in NorCal who manages to get arrested once a month for very sordid crimes (assault with a deadly weapon, having sex in public, shoplifting, etc.). The nature of these crimes indicates poor impulse control and zero long-term thinking. But his ‘sex in public’ offense was at least with a white woman (an ugly one at that).

    The two-year gap between otherwise-monthly arrests was only because he went to a different town :

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    https://www.google.com/search?ei=l4tSWo6eCMXojwTjsJ6YCg&q=Kevin+Crawford+Kraft+arrests&oq=Kevin+Crawford+Kraft+arrests&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39k1l2.13686.16702.0.16825.17.12.1.0.0.0.154.939.0j8.8.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..8.9.939….0.pSkp_vjpk6s

    These are the thought leaders of the WN cult of degenerates.

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    Nobody else will have them!
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  9. DFH says:

    This fun-house mirror asks me to be smarter, nicer, prettier and more accomplished than my white counterparts for the same amount of respect, then floods my dating app inbox with messages that reek of Asian fetish. Thankfully, I’m not required to care or let it define me; for what it’s worth, I am even entitled to play up the stereotypes if I see something to be gained. Maybe this is where the Asian girlfriends of alt-right men stand. But none of us can escape the truth that the fun-house was built to justify systematic exploitation of everyone in this country who isn’t white.

    Why does the system of oppression end up with Asians being much richer than white people?

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    But none of us can escape the truth that the fun-house was built to justify systematic exploitation of everyone in this country who isn’t white.
     
    It is the gawddangest thing how those wily white supremacists built this country as a honeytrap to lure all those non-whites to come in for their limitless exploitation, and yet all those non-whites know it but are still lining up in droves, banging the doors to get inside this Nazi cockroach hotel where they don't wanna come out again.
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  10. biz says:

    Craving yellowtail is really the least of the white nationalist contradiction problems.

    Worshiping Hitler, who considered Slavs sub-human, while at the same time pining for Eastern European mail-order brides is probably worse.

    Worshiping effete Confederate aristocrats like Robert E. Lee who wouldn’t give their downscale ass the time of day is also pretty glaring.

    Building a movement full of German, Irish, Slavic, and Italian Americans while claiming that being “founding stock” Americans is what counts is another doozy.

    Oscillating between whether Christianity is the one true religion or a Jewish cuck plot is probably the worst.

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    • Replies: @neutral
    The contradiction lies with you jews, actually more precisely deception. You swap from a race to a religion whichever is more convenient at the time, you preach open borders for whites and expelling Africans from Israel, you want whites to worship the holocaust but have jews commit ethnic cleansing at the same (and even celebrate old genocides in the bible as holiday), you pretend to be victims and then jail and destroy the lives of anyone who speaks out against you.

    As for the garbage you mentioned, can you point out which white nationalists advocate for mail order brides, or care if Lee was an aristocrat or not, or care about being "American" over being white.
    , @Astuteobservor II
    jeez, dude, lay off a bit. you might drive them to suicide.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    The Alt Right has a pan-European view of things....European founding stock...before it was demographically exterminated by Emanuel Cellar.

    The Alt Right opposes the Neo-Nazi coup in the Ukraine.

    The Alt Right prefers statues of Robert E Lee to the Kenyan Foreigner Barack Obama.

    You heard of the Sullivan Brothers?...Wright Brothers?...Or do you prefer to name US Navy Ships the USS BRAMAGUPTA?
    , @Wally
    said like a Zionist redneck on The Amateur Hour:

    "Worshiping Hitler, who considered Slavs sub-human"

    No, he did not. Simple as that.
    The simple fact is that there were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.
    And it's the fake & scientifically impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' nonsense which silences Euro-white gentiles and enables Jews & their Cultural Marxists to push their crap down everyone's throat.


    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
     
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  11. Thomm says:
    @peterike

    The second myth is that of the subservient, hypersexual Asian woman.
     
    Do we have myths about hypersexual Asian women? I've never heard that. As for subservient, as our exposure to Asians has increased dramatically, the old "subservient Asian wife" idea is being superseded by the grim reality: the hyper-aggrieved shrieking Asian shrew.

    Mommas, don't let your babies grow up to marry Asians.

    As for subservient, as our exposure to Asians has increased dramatically, the old “subservient Asian wife” idea is being superseded by the grim reality: the hyper-aggrieved shrieking Asian shrew.

    Perhaps. But remember that Peterike is an incel WN wigger, and thus everything he knows about women (Asian, white, or otherwise) is third-hand knowledge.

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  12. Mr. XYZ says:

    : Yeah, the whole idea of White privilege and systemic racism appears to–at least mostly–be a bunch of total BS.

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  13. nebulafox says:
    @Lars Porsena

    Here on Unz, you see libertarians, paleocons, monarchists, technocrats… atheists and religious, populists and anti-populists alike, all sorts.
     
    This is true. And yet, all of them have yellow fever.

    I don’t. I’ve honestly never been attracted to Asian women, for whatever reason. I don’t think they are aesthetically unpleasant or anything, nor am I opposed to the possibility of dating one, it is just that I typically don’t get “that” gut, instant reaction to them. (I’ve been attracted to plenty of Hispanic, South American, Middle Eastern, and black women in the past, so it isn’t a strict attraction for European or American white women, either.)

    The assumptions people make can be really funny sometimes. People-especially in my physics/math and startup culture milieus-tend to be genuinely surprised about this in real life. I don’t know whether it is my looks, interests, or personality: probably a combination of the three. When I was college, I had a conversation with this female Chinese student who genuinely and matter-of-factly suggested that I move to Beijing because “I’d get tons of girls there”. My father constantly tells me whenever I’m visiting that he expects me to bring home an Asian woman some day.

    (Ironically, I’d do just that-albeit not to Beijing-though I had no idea at the time.)

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  14. OK, everybody, come on now. Obviously there is a huge problem here. These White Supremacist guys must be choogling with gooks, because the author of the article is a gookette. Surely she would know, right?

    Everybody take a step back and think about it, OK?

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    Choogling with Gooks
     
    Great name for a band!
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    .
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    "And here's a cover from our new album.:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB8CMN-jX_g
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  15. nebulafox says:
    @peterike

    The second myth is that of the subservient, hypersexual Asian woman.
     
    Do we have myths about hypersexual Asian women? I've never heard that. As for subservient, as our exposure to Asians has increased dramatically, the old "subservient Asian wife" idea is being superseded by the grim reality: the hyper-aggrieved shrieking Asian shrew.

    Mommas, don't let your babies grow up to marry Asians.

    Really? Most of the Chinese guys I’ve met said their women are ruthless pragmatists and ballbusters who push you hard. Middle Eastern or Indian style submissives, they are not. Granted, most of the Chinese guys I’ve known (outside of China) were geeks-either hard STEM graduate students or working at places like Microsoft as programmers-so that might have something to with it. (“Am I manipulating him? Of course. But it is for his own good-if left to his own devices, he’ll constantly get screwed by employers.” I can’t help but occasionally wonder whether my own immigrant grandmother thought similarly about my rocket scientist grandfather.)

    This isn’t just a Chinese thing-you’d thing that Mexican women are subservient due to the machismo laden culture, but in reality, a lot of Mexican housewives run very, very tight ships, especially when it comes to family finances. This increases with age due to the high social status of older women in Mexican society-to this day, if you are a guy there, you are expected to get up for you seat for one, etc, and “tu madre” is not an insult to be dropped lightly.

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  16. @jb
    I posted a comment to the "Asian Fetish" article very shortly after it showed up, politely rubbing in the fact that the success of Asian Americans (both East and South, two entirely separate groups!) was a huge embarrassment to the orthodox narrative on race in America.

    My comments do show up sometimes, but this one, like many of my most pointed, didn't. :-(

    We are getting the cream of these Asians races. Let ‘s look at the countries whence they come:

    India (average IQ 82). Indians in the West need to go back to help their country.

    China (average IQ 95 – it’s not 105). A totalitarian government (I don’t care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing. They have too many internal problems, so the suppression of their people will get worse. The Chinese in the West have to go back to see if they can help them.

    Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Laotians – they don’t even register as anything worthy. The Japanese are successful within their country and don’t need to come to the West.

    It took coming to the West for these “successful Asians” to become successful. Why couldn’t they do this in their own countries?

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    India and China are too gigantic to apply any one simple metric to. I'm pretty sure the average IQ will be higher in Guangdong than in rural Xinjiang and highter in greater Bangalore than in rural UP. When you have over a billion people, you'll have a lot of geniuses and a lot of retards. Same applies to Africa. India also still has absurd rates of poverty, disease, childhood malnutrition, and all sorts of things that lower aggregate IQ.

    IQ is one of those things that probably waxes and wanes with generation circumstances. 1800s China probably had a lower one than 1600s China did, on average. Same with 1600s Germany compared to 1400s Florence. We could probably head back to the collapse of the Roman Empire, as well.

    >A totalitarian government (I don’t care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing.

    Um... OK?

    Also, while I'm hardly an apologist for Beijing (the new social credit idea is extremely disturbing-just the wrong thing for our oligarchs to be interested in), it isn't a totalitarian place. Nowadays, it is much more like 1980s Taiwan or South Korea than a truly totalitarian place, like North Korea or 1970s China: a modestly corrupt authoritarian state dominated by huge conglomerates working in partnership with the ruling party. The Chinese government doesn't care if you talk badly about it over beers with your buddies or if you are an expat using a VPN to get around the Great Wall, but they suddenly care-and will care a lot more viciously than any Western government-if you begin leading demonstrations near the embassies.

    >Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Laotians – they don’t even register as anything worthy. The Japanese are successful within their country and don’t need to come to the West.

    The Vietnamese generally do just fine-not as great as the Koreans or Chinese, who had a much higher proportion of their emigrants possessing higher education or formerly had middle class status relative to their populace as a whole (Vietnamese migration was far more heavily peasant/working-class due to the circumstances), but still well above average. Same with Filipinos, who have a high proportion of "mixed marriages" with US servicemen and economically skilled Sinoy migrants.

    , @Bach

    We are getting the cream of these Asians races.
     
    That's a convenient rationalization but it doesn't explain it completely.

    Asians were doing well even back in the 70s, 80s and earlier when those who immigrated were dregs from the homeland.
    , @AnotherDad

    China (average IQ 95 – it’s not 105). A totalitarian government (I don’t care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing. They have too many internal problems, so the suppression of their people will get worse. The Chinese in the West have to go back to see if they can help them.
     
    This would be great ... if it were even remotely true.

    Yes, we don't really know about overall Chinese IQ. (And let's stick to the Han here, we all know there are non-Han hicks-in-the-sticks.) But reasonable guesstimates about Chinese vs. white traits:
    -- Chinese a few points up in overall IQ, pretty much entirely in viso-spatial, with verbal either equal or maybe even a point or two below whites.
    -- Chinese higher in "nose the grindstone" conscientiousness and compliance. (They are more "girly"--sit still and do what they are told--in personality. Do better in school relative to their IQ as a result.)
    -- Whites better in creativity and thinking outside the box.

    But re China the nation--you're entirely doing wishful thinking. Sure they've got all sorts of internal problems, but they are kicking ass and taking names. They've had the most incredible run of economic improvement of any nation in the history the world. They've gone from a true 3rd world peasant backwater to world economic power in a generation and are still ticking along. While export has been critical they seem to have put together the entire package across all industries to be able to continue forward with internal consumption led development as well.

    This is while the West is importing muzzies and Africans and (in our case) Mexicans. The comparion of trajectories is appalling ... for us!
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  17. nebulafox says:
    @jb
    I posted a comment to the "Asian Fetish" article very shortly after it showed up, politely rubbing in the fact that the success of Asian Americans (both East and South, two entirely separate groups!) was a huge embarrassment to the orthodox narrative on race in America.

    My comments do show up sometimes, but this one, like many of my most pointed, didn't. :-(

    An even bigger embarrassment to the narrative would be to point out the general economic success of Iranian and Pakistani Americans in an “Islamophobic” society, or how the first generation of Muslim emigrants in France are doing OK socioeconomically and identify wholly as French (and in some cases, vote for Le Pen), in stark contrast to later waves of migrants (who came under an immigration policy that would be much more favored by the bien-pensants today than what the Gaullists did in the 1950s and 1960s) who cause a lot of problems and fit the profile of the Anatolians in Germany and the Mirpurs in Britain. Or the drastic differences between African subgroups. If you look at the achivement and socioeconomic gap between Nigerian and Somali immigrants-or African Americans-it is a pretty good indicator that the story is a little more complicated than a simplistic anti-black conspiracy.

    (Also more complicated than a lot of people here want to make it out to be, but we don’t control public policy. One oft-ignored fact is that one specific Nigerian subgroup-the Igbos-manage to outdo the Chinese and the Indians in the UK, which should shed further light on just how complicated this stuff all is.)

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  18. Svigor says:

    She should interview Jewish men on this topic. They know all about it, and she won’t have to soil her pristine mind with the thoughts of deplorables.

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  19. nebulafox says:
    @attilathehen
    We are getting the cream of these Asians races. Let 's look at the countries whence they come:

    India (average IQ 82). Indians in the West need to go back to help their country.

    China (average IQ 95 - it's not 105). A totalitarian government (I don't care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing. They have too many internal problems, so the suppression of their people will get worse. The Chinese in the West have to go back to see if they can help them.

    Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Laotians - they don't even register as anything worthy. The Japanese are successful within their country and don't need to come to the West.

    It took coming to the West for these "successful Asians" to become successful. Why couldn't they do this in their own countries?

    India and China are too gigantic to apply any one simple metric to. I’m pretty sure the average IQ will be higher in Guangdong than in rural Xinjiang and highter in greater Bangalore than in rural UP. When you have over a billion people, you’ll have a lot of geniuses and a lot of retards. Same applies to Africa. India also still has absurd rates of poverty, disease, childhood malnutrition, and all sorts of things that lower aggregate IQ.

    IQ is one of those things that probably waxes and wanes with generation circumstances. 1800s China probably had a lower one than 1600s China did, on average. Same with 1600s Germany compared to 1400s Florence. We could probably head back to the collapse of the Roman Empire, as well.

    >A totalitarian government (I don’t care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing.

    Um… OK?

    Also, while I’m hardly an apologist for Beijing (the new social credit idea is extremely disturbing-just the wrong thing for our oligarchs to be interested in), it isn’t a totalitarian place. Nowadays, it is much more like 1980s Taiwan or South Korea than a truly totalitarian place, like North Korea or 1970s China: a modestly corrupt authoritarian state dominated by huge conglomerates working in partnership with the ruling party. The Chinese government doesn’t care if you talk badly about it over beers with your buddies or if you are an expat using a VPN to get around the Great Wall, but they suddenly care-and will care a lot more viciously than any Western government-if you begin leading demonstrations near the embassies.

    >Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Laotians – they don’t even register as anything worthy. The Japanese are successful within their country and don’t need to come to the West.

    The Vietnamese generally do just fine-not as great as the Koreans or Chinese, who had a much higher proportion of their emigrants possessing higher education or formerly had middle class status relative to their populace as a whole (Vietnamese migration was far more heavily peasant/working-class due to the circumstances), but still well above average. Same with Filipinos, who have a high proportion of “mixed marriages” with US servicemen and economically skilled Sinoy migrants.

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  20. Svigor says:

    Asian-Americans aren’t an unified bunch, first off.

    They’re fairly unified in their non-Whiteness.

    The second myth is that of the subservient, hypersexual Asian woman.

    The reality is that Asian chicks are easy. Sexual junk food; half an hour later you’re horny again.

    Why does the system of oppression end up with Asians being much richer than white people?

    Because Whites made it that way (yes, this is leftists’ actual answer).

    Worshiping Hitler, who considered Slavs sub-human, while at the same time pining for Eastern European mail-order brides is probably worse.

    You’re confusing natsocs with WNs, they’re not the same thing.

    Worshiping effete Confederate aristocrats like Robert E. Lee who wouldn’t give their downscale ass the time of day is also pretty glaring.

    Noticing that Yankees are scum isn’t worshiping anyone.

    Building a movement full of German, Irish, Slavic, and Italian Americans while claiming that being “founding stock” Americans is what counts is another doozy.

    It’s called “White Nationalism,” not “founding stock nationalism.”

    Oscillating between whether Christianity is the one true religion or a Jewish cuck plot is probably the worst.

    It’s not oscillating, it’s two factions. I’m in neither, btw; I am more simpatico toward the Christian camp but have no sympathy for the zealots on either side; a pox on both their houses. Both will be brought to heel.

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    Sexual junk food; half an hour later you’re horny again.
     
    That's actually pretty funny.

    But in seriousness, what if those chix are also DTF again in half and hour? Sounds alright.
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  21. (((Mike Cernevich))) – yes, he’s Jewish – is married to an Iranian Muslim woman. Nothing kosher here.

    John Derbyshire (WASP) married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites. He is not a white nationalist. https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/ I don’t why he bothers with his scribblings.

    Jeff Session has daughter who married a Korean and has Korean offspring. This is why he is so cucked about race.

    This “alt right” fetish with Asians (which is a minor occurence) will end shortly. Asians are inferior to Caucasians.

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    This “alt right” fetish with Asians (which is a minor occurence) will end shortly.
     
    What makes you think so?

    Until whites get their act together, it's not going to end. And it doesn't appear to me they're near getting their act together.

    White culture is falling apart and in my view the fetish for Asian women is a symptom of that desperation.
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    "Asians are inferior to Caucasians".The mighty EDAR gene and big brains is what makes asians superior across the board google Edar and its powers inferior woman.I have always known white nationalists had a thing for asian women, run across these scum all the time especially the little brained british american who are mostly married to unfortunate poor naive asian prostitoots.
    , @John Derbyshire

    John Derbyshire (WASP) married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites.

     

    Where did I state that?
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  22. truthman says:

    You’d think the author could label this development as a sign of alt right moderation, a positive sign of American assimilation at its best or some such cum ba ya development, but that would maybe be presenting the alt right in a somewhat positive light, and I don’t think an elite paper like the times would approve of that.

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  23. Thomm says:

    Asians are inferior to Caucasians.

    And yet, you still can’t get a man, even though White Trashionalism is an ideology that is 99% male.

    That is why you are desperate for male attention, even though you have nothing that a man needs or wants.

    Heh heh heh heh

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    99%
     
    Second time you've cited that super credible sounding statistic.
    I'd ask where you got it, but I really don't want a link to a picture of your anus.
    , @attilathehen
    I struck at you again. You're an East Indian Hindu, of lower caste. Speculating about commentators lives is ridiculous unless you know something about them. When I ask commentators if they are Jewish and/or mixed up with Asians this is to discern why they think are white nationalists.

    You're projecting. You're dark-skinned, unacceptable in the West. As a Caucasian Christian woman I am superior to you and that bothers you. Your constant "heh heh" cackling at the end shows you're deranged.
    , @Alfa158
    TD, is that you my man?
    , @Truth
    Uh oh, Thommy bought the "Heh heh heh heh" thing back. He means business now, LOL.
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  24. Even Nazis slept with Jewish women, including perhaps Hitler himself. White nationalist politicians in the old south often had black mistresses. And this is why racial purity taboos always, always fail, and even their defenders honor them in the breach not the observance. Which goes to show how they’re full of crap.

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  25. I just wish the Chinese women would stop stealing our Jewish men!

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    Black women have the same complaint of black men who marry Jewish women.
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    I wish those gold digging women would too, no EDAR gene for you people so called gods people.
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  26. @Thomm

    Asians are inferior to Caucasians.
     
    And yet, you still can't get a man, even though White Trashionalism is an ideology that is 99% male.

    That is why you are desperate for male attention, even though you have nothing that a man needs or wants.

    Heh heh heh heh

    99%

    Second time you’ve cited that super credible sounding statistic.
    I’d ask where you got it, but I really don’t want a link to a picture of your anus.

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    Second time you’ve cited that super credible sounding statistic.
     
    er... go to any WN gathering, and exclude the Tradthots who bilk money from needy WN incels while having sex with colored men.

    Everyone knows that this is true. White Trashionalism is the densest sausage-fest of all time - little tiny weisswursts.

    Your denial of what White Trashionalism really is is just a paid avoidance reaction on your part. Any decent-looking white woman would rather die than socially interact with a WN loser.
    , @Thomm
    * pain avoidance reaction by WNs.
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  27. Thomm says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    99%
     
    Second time you've cited that super credible sounding statistic.
    I'd ask where you got it, but I really don't want a link to a picture of your anus.

    Second time you’ve cited that super credible sounding statistic.

    er… go to any WN gathering, and exclude the Tradthots who bilk money from needy WN incels while having sex with colored men.

    Everyone knows that this is true. White Trashionalism is the densest sausage-fest of all time – little tiny weisswursts.

    Your denial of what White Trashionalism really is is just a paid avoidance reaction on your part. Any decent-looking white woman would rather die than socially interact with a WN loser.

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  28. @Thomm

    Asians are inferior to Caucasians.
     
    And yet, you still can't get a man, even though White Trashionalism is an ideology that is 99% male.

    That is why you are desperate for male attention, even though you have nothing that a man needs or wants.

    Heh heh heh heh

    I struck at you again. You’re an East Indian Hindu, of lower caste. Speculating about commentators lives is ridiculous unless you know something about them. When I ask commentators if they are Jewish and/or mixed up with Asians this is to discern why they think are white nationalists.

    You’re projecting. You’re dark-skinned, unacceptable in the West. As a Caucasian Christian woman I am superior to you and that bothers you. Your constant “heh heh” cackling at the end shows you’re deranged.

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    I'm a white American guy, you fool. The kind that rejected you your whole life.

    You can't survive without a constant stream of male attention. I generously gave you the attention you crave, but you need to improve, or else I will cut you off.

    Say intelligent things, and lose weight. Then, we'll talk.

    Heh heh

    , @anonymous

    As a Caucasian Christian woman I am superior to you
     
    Superior? LOL!

    A proud pagan polytheist human worshipper?

    Pathetic fools.
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  29. @Hannah Katz
    I just wish the Chinese women would stop stealing our Jewish men!

    Black women have the same complaint of black men who marry Jewish women.

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  30. Thomm says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    99%
     
    Second time you've cited that super credible sounding statistic.
    I'd ask where you got it, but I really don't want a link to a picture of your anus.

    * pain avoidance reaction by WNs.

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  31. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    We are getting the cream of these Asians races. Let 's look at the countries whence they come:

    India (average IQ 82). Indians in the West need to go back to help their country.

    China (average IQ 95 - it's not 105). A totalitarian government (I don't care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing. They have too many internal problems, so the suppression of their people will get worse. The Chinese in the West have to go back to see if they can help them.

    Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Laotians - they don't even register as anything worthy. The Japanese are successful within their country and don't need to come to the West.

    It took coming to the West for these "successful Asians" to become successful. Why couldn't they do this in their own countries?

    We are getting the cream of these Asians races.

    That’s a convenient rationalization but it doesn’t explain it completely.

    Asians were doing well even back in the 70s, 80s and earlier when those who immigrated were dregs from the homeland.

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    Which Asians? The only Asians that have ever done well are the Japanese. Vietnam, Cambodia, China were dealing with the effects of Communism. The Philippines has an average IQ of 84. Indonesia has low IQ peoples. Hong Kong and Singapore are small nations.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I don't often agree with Mrs. Hen here, but that's not a very good argument. We were getting an even creamier (not talking skin color) cream-o-the-crop bunch of Orientals* back in the past. It was very hard for anyone from mainland China to get over here to stay until sometime in the 1990's.

    * Can we just call them Orientals to make this clearer. Asia covers a lot of ground - it is the biggest continent, you know. Oh, and if you're gonna choogle an "Asian", you want to choogle an Oriental ... just sayin'. It's called "yellow fever", not "curry fever" for a reason.
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  32. Bach says:

    The Alt-Right’s Asian Fetish . . . Maybe this is where the Asian girlfriends of alt-right men stand. – Audrea Lim

    Why does Lim single out the alt-right? Is yellow fever among the alt-left more benevolent?

    The problem is not just the Asian girlfriends of alt-right men, but the Asian girlfriends of all white/non-Asian men. Yellow fever is everywhere from the alt-right to the alt-left.

    Asian women are also part of the problem as well. They’re anything but innocent in enabling fetishes and perpetuating stereotypes.

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    Interesting stuff all (to me), but how bout we get down to brass tacks here on this one.

    Lots of Western men like the Oriental women because they have been better at keeping their bodies in shape, especially the rear-end portions. That's what it comes down to if you go ahead an admit to yourself why you like girls to begin with.

    Sure, a stable personality matters lots in the long run, but maybe all the guys being discussed here, or certain parts of them, are not always particularly concerned with the long run.

    BTW, with their diets changing now, mostly just to where there is plenty enough food, including the ubiquitous high-glycemic-indexed white rice, the Oriental ladies' bodies are changing too. It may become a wash before too long.
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  33. Thomm says:
    @attilathehen
    I struck at you again. You're an East Indian Hindu, of lower caste. Speculating about commentators lives is ridiculous unless you know something about them. When I ask commentators if they are Jewish and/or mixed up with Asians this is to discern why they think are white nationalists.

    You're projecting. You're dark-skinned, unacceptable in the West. As a Caucasian Christian woman I am superior to you and that bothers you. Your constant "heh heh" cackling at the end shows you're deranged.

    I’m a white American guy, you fool. The kind that rejected you your whole life.

    You can’t survive without a constant stream of male attention. I generously gave you the attention you crave, but you need to improve, or else I will cut you off.

    Say intelligent things, and lose weight. Then, we’ll talk.

    Heh heh

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  34. @Bach

    We are getting the cream of these Asians races.
     
    That's a convenient rationalization but it doesn't explain it completely.

    Asians were doing well even back in the 70s, 80s and earlier when those who immigrated were dregs from the homeland.

    Which Asians? The only Asians that have ever done well are the Japanese. Vietnam, Cambodia, China were dealing with the effects of Communism. The Philippines has an average IQ of 84. Indonesia has low IQ peoples. Hong Kong and Singapore are small nations.

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    Cambodia?? Do you mean in some ancient Angkor Wat times? Because in the past 50 years they are pretty much the opposite of "doing well."
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    filipinos for a so called small iq people earn even more than indians as a gruop , most filipinos own their own homes , dont do opiods ,dont do much crime, are not on welfare this is more than i can say about basque british americans.
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  35. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    (((Mike Cernevich))) - yes, he's Jewish - is married to an Iranian Muslim woman. Nothing kosher here.

    John Derbyshire (WASP) married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites. He is not a white nationalist. https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/ I don't why he bothers with his scribblings.

    Jeff Session has daughter who married a Korean and has Korean offspring. This is why he is so cucked about race.

    This "alt right" fetish with Asians (which is a minor occurence) will end shortly. Asians are inferior to Caucasians.

    This “alt right” fetish with Asians (which is a minor occurence) will end shortly.

    What makes you think so?

    Until whites get their act together, it’s not going to end. And it doesn’t appear to me they’re near getting their act together.

    White culture is falling apart and in my view the fetish for Asian women is a symptom of that desperation.

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    White culture may have its problems, but I blame this on the RCC, the Zioevangizers and Freemasons. These universal church, brotherhood beliefs are now the bane of the West. But people are beginning to realize the problems these institutions are causing and leaving them. This is the beginning of the needed change.
    , @Anonymous

    White culture is falling apart and in my view the fetish for Asian women is a symptom of that desperation.

     

    Speaking as exactly the type of person this article is about, I think you've nailed it. White women are full of shit and have no idea what's actually important in life. Asian women are a lot more traditional in values and know how to be feminine and how to keep a family together. Even if I forfeit my family's racial purity by copulating with an Asian woman, at least I can rest peacefully knowing that I've left my progeny in safe hands.
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  36. Svigor says:

    Heh heh heh heh

    Greasy slope learned English from hentai and cracker jack boxes.

    And this is why racial purity taboos always, always fail, and even their defenders honor them in the breach not the observance. Which goes to show how they’re full of crap.

    Yeah, that’s how Jews managed to survive for 2k years; panmixia.

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    The Jews of 2k years ago are quite different from modern azkenazi jews who have significant european admixture on their maternal side. So they did race mix at least initially.
    , @biz
    I thought the position around here was that Jews were completely de-racinated fake Kahazar converts. Now you're telling me they've maintained racial purity for 2500 years? I can't keep up.
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  37. Svigor says:

    I’m a white American guy, you fool.

    Nonsense. White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do. Only Jews, wogs, and other non-Whites do. Obvious shit is obvious.

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    White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do.
     
    Of course we do. Go to any 95% white gathering (say, an Oktoberfest or white frat party at a Big-10) and say WN things. You will get slammed (only verbally, if you are lucky) in short order.

    It is not that we even like blacks or Hispanics, but that WN wiggers are a shame that we wish to eradicate (you are genetic waste matter that is generated in the production of impressive white people (the other 80%), as I explained before).

    White Trashionalism is just another form of feminism, supported by incels like you. See here :

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/04/white-nationalism-is-a-goddess-cult/
    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/11/white-nationalists-want-white-women-to-trap-white-women-with-oops-pregnancies/

    , @Truth

    White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do
     
    Dude I'm starting to think it is LYism (light yellow).
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  38. From time to time I end up thinking the worst part of all this type of rhetoric from liberal capitalists is actually its inaccuracy. The deranged mix of racism, sexism, and classism is something, but then again, women+Sailer’s Law etc.

    The alt-right, by political movement standards, is quite traditional and boring in its social/personal sphere of behavior. The criticisms of the alt-right by the liberals here, of course, are not actually about anything particular to the alt-right at all but merely bashing broader groups of people they dislike, such as singles/nerds/whatever crazy obsession one particular newswriter has.

    Liberal SJWs have far more ugly race fetishists or anything along those lines really than any other group.

    Communists/socialists have way more, a higher proportion, of single and non-traditional people than the alt-right.

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  39. Thomm says:
    @Svigor

    I’m a white American guy, you fool.
     
    Nonsense. White people don't get het up over WNism the way you do. Only Jews, wogs, and other non-Whites do. Obvious shit is obvious.

    White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do.

    Of course we do. Go to any 95% white gathering (say, an Oktoberfest or white frat party at a Big-10) and say WN things. You will get slammed (only verbally, if you are lucky) in short order.

    It is not that we even like blacks or Hispanics, but that WN wiggers are a shame that we wish to eradicate (you are genetic waste matter that is generated in the production of impressive white people (the other 80%), as I explained before).

    White Trashionalism is just another form of feminism, supported by incels like you. See here :

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/04/white-nationalism-is-a-goddess-cult/

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/11/white-nationalists-want-white-women-to-trap-white-women-with-oops-pregnancies/

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    You're talking nonsense and normalizing violence and immoral activity.

    14 words, you'll never kill us all off, and I'm in no way "trash". My folks helped build the US, and we're good at school.
    , @WHAT
    Oh look, Shlomo trying to meme his fantasies into reality again.
    Truth is, all whites dislike muds. Not all whites are comfortable openly proclaiming their dislike. Yet.
    , @neutral
    Give it a break with that narrative, it is beyond stupid. You want to simultaneously spout how whites who do not worship Israel are vermin and that you are NOT vermin because you are superior because you believe in racial equality?!? This is one giant contradiction, liberals are obviously not going to agree with your view, same for cuckservatives, so who exactly are you appealing to?
    , @Pericles
    Lol, this high-achieving guy is too much!
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  40. TheBoom says:

    The article is like must written by the left. It is built on fake news and false narratives. Cernovich, Chapman and Derb are not white nationalists. They just aren’t ethno masochists which is something every woke white is supposed to be. In our day and age any white who isn’t an ethno masochist is just like Hitler.

    Besides, if you want to understand the attraction of Asian women it is pretty easy to see that they are more likely to possess the traits traditionally found in white societies than are modern western white women. If you wonder why so many white men are attracted to Asian women, simply observe western white women for an afternoon and you will understand. Or, to make it really simple, compare the average dress size.

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    Derbyshire is an ethno masochist. He married a dragon lady and has Chinese offspring. I linked to an article where he stated Asians are smarter than whites. He was fired from National Review for his article about The Talk parents needed to have with their children about blacks. His Chinese wife and daughter voted for Obama. He's been castrated.

    (((Cernovich))) is Jewish and doesn't count. Jews have high intermarriage rates with black/Asians.
    , @Backwoods Bob
    Yes.

    All you have to do is look at the picture of this fugly, and it is self-explanatory. Women on the right tend to be beautiful and in shape by comparison to the marxist-feminists.

    Not all Asians are beautiful, and an ugly Asian in the USA is going to get what she can't from quality men by becoming a darling of the left.
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  41. George says:
    @peterike

    The second myth is that of the subservient, hypersexual Asian woman.
     
    Do we have myths about hypersexual Asian women? I've never heard that. As for subservient, as our exposure to Asians has increased dramatically, the old "subservient Asian wife" idea is being superseded by the grim reality: the hyper-aggrieved shrieking Asian shrew.

    Mommas, don't let your babies grow up to marry Asians.

    “Do we have myths about hypersexual Asian women?”

    2 Live Crew.

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    Who got it from Stanley Kubrick.......
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  42. joe webb says:

    Subject: Fw: NYTimes.com: The Alt-Right’s Asian Fetish ( the jew straightforward smut peddling ads…girlie pin-ups come to the ‘newspaper of record,”

    I don’t know if they show up in the print editions, but for some time now the pin-ups (old term for soft-core porn ) have been regularly appearing, and given the internet’s adaptability, one can flip from one slut to another. Almost all are White, few are Asian, and almost none are niggers…more anti-racism from jewyorktimes I guess.

    WSJ and Breitbart do not have these ads and I dunno about other news digital editions. I know the jews love smut and porn and that they are in financial trouble at the jewyorktimes…but Yellow Journalism was about unfair, biased, sensational, lurid, etc. news….yeah that is what the Times has come to, and now they got the smut to go along with it. Democrats are smuttier than Republicans.

    This article is useless, but if there is any truth to some white ethnic activists…activists presumably for Whites, going for Asian gals, this is no different than lots of white men doing the same, since our loopy cunts have several chips on their shoulders, have been subverted by jewish feminism, love darkies, and jewTV instructs them on how to boss their men around. Never mind getting fat as well. No man wants a fat chick. It is that simple.

    And where I live there are Asian gals aplenty with wandering eyes, and do they love blondes! and complain about their Asian men as being ‘all business’ and lousy companions compared to white men. We will not talk about penis size and chipmunk balls and so on.

    Jew York Times, your jew-boy perversions and obsessions with aryan girls. Where’s the shiksa?
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  43. Svigor says:

    Of course we do. Go to any 95% white gathering (say, an Oktoberfest or white frat party at a Big-10) and say WN things. You will get slammed (only verbally, if you are lucky) in short order.

    That’s not what you do. You go looking for WN parties to crash. Because it bunches your panties up.

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    That’s not what you do. You go looking for WN parties to crash. Because it bunches your panties up.
     
    Yawn... a WN party is a sausage-fest (tiny weisswursts) full of buttfuckaronis like you.

    There is no less desirable place. That is why no attractive woman (white or otherwise) is to be found within miles of a WN gathering.
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  44. Weaver1 says:

    Why does Andrew Anglin get mention? He’s just an American History X shock jock entertainer.

    Just because one is scary scary doesn’t make that person a principled radical. Scary is just scary.

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  45. Weaver1 says:
    @Thomm

    White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do.
     
    Of course we do. Go to any 95% white gathering (say, an Oktoberfest or white frat party at a Big-10) and say WN things. You will get slammed (only verbally, if you are lucky) in short order.

    It is not that we even like blacks or Hispanics, but that WN wiggers are a shame that we wish to eradicate (you are genetic waste matter that is generated in the production of impressive white people (the other 80%), as I explained before).

    White Trashionalism is just another form of feminism, supported by incels like you. See here :

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/04/white-nationalism-is-a-goddess-cult/
    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/11/white-nationalists-want-white-women-to-trap-white-women-with-oops-pregnancies/

    You’re talking nonsense and normalizing violence and immoral activity.

    14 words, you’ll never kill us all off, and I’m in no way “trash”. My folks helped build the US, and we’re good at school.

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  46. @Bach

    This “alt right” fetish with Asians (which is a minor occurence) will end shortly.
     
    What makes you think so?

    Until whites get their act together, it's not going to end. And it doesn't appear to me they're near getting their act together.

    White culture is falling apart and in my view the fetish for Asian women is a symptom of that desperation.

    White culture may have its problems, but I blame this on the RCC, the Zioevangizers and Freemasons. These universal church, brotherhood beliefs are now the bane of the West. But people are beginning to realize the problems these institutions are causing and leaving them. This is the beginning of the needed change.

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    But people are beginning to realize the problems these institutions are causing and leaving them. This is the beginning of the needed change.
     
    I don't see the Jewish/Zionist death grip on the West attenuating. At all.
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  47. @TheBoom
    The article is like must written by the left. It is built on fake news and false narratives. Cernovich, Chapman and Derb are not white nationalists. They just aren't ethno masochists which is something every woke white is supposed to be. In our day and age any white who isn't an ethno masochist is just like Hitler.

    Besides, if you want to understand the attraction of Asian women it is pretty easy to see that they are more likely to possess the traits traditionally found in white societies than are modern western white women. If you wonder why so many white men are attracted to Asian women, simply observe western white women for an afternoon and you will understand. Or, to make it really simple, compare the average dress size.

    Derbyshire is an ethno masochist. He married a dragon lady and has Chinese offspring. I linked to an article where he stated Asians are smarter than whites. He was fired from National Review for his article about The Talk parents needed to have with their children about blacks. His Chinese wife and daughter voted for Obama. He’s been castrated.

    (((Cernovich))) is Jewish and doesn’t count. Jews have high intermarriage rates with black/Asians.

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  48. Thomm says:
    @Svigor

    Of course we do. Go to any 95% white gathering (say, an Oktoberfest or white frat party at a Big-10) and say WN things. You will get slammed (only verbally, if you are lucky) in short order.
     
    That's not what you do. You go looking for WN parties to crash. Because it bunches your panties up.

    That’s not what you do. You go looking for WN parties to crash. Because it bunches your panties up.

    Yawn… a WN party is a sausage-fest (tiny weisswursts) full of buttfuckaronis like you.

    There is no less desirable place. That is why no attractive woman (white or otherwise) is to be found within miles of a WN gathering.

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    Yawn… a WN party is a sausage-fest (tiny weisswursts) full of buttfuckaronis like you.

     

    Whoops, your high-achieving self-hatred is showing.
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  49. llloyd says: • Website
    @peterike

    The second myth is that of the subservient, hypersexual Asian woman.
     
    Do we have myths about hypersexual Asian women? I've never heard that. As for subservient, as our exposure to Asians has increased dramatically, the old "subservient Asian wife" idea is being superseded by the grim reality: the hyper-aggrieved shrieking Asian shrew.

    Mommas, don't let your babies grow up to marry Asians.

    I’m married to one and soon found that out. However she is also a lovely person who gets furiously jealous if I so much as look at another woman. The Western female assertiveness is self conscious and does not exist in Asia unless foreign corruption. Asian women are natural flirts like cats that they most resemble. If I am sitting or standing beside a woman young or middle aged in a train or bus in China, most will come on to me. Truly.

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    Asian women are natural flirts like cats that they most resemble. If I am sitting or standing beside a woman young or middle aged in a train or bus in China, most will come on to me. Truly.
     
    As I said, while Western civilization crumbles, desperate white men have resorted to ego stroking such as this. Enjoy it while it lasts. It will be over soon.
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  50. @peterike
    Audrea is upset because not enough white guys have yellow fever for her. And she's from Canada living in Brooklyn. She needs to go back.

    https://www.nationalobserver.com/sites/nationalobserver.com/files/img/2016/06/02/0206-al-audrea-lim.jpg

    Hahahahahaha!

    My God what an ugly toad. The picture speaks a thousand words. You are absolutely spot on.

    “I’m an ugly asshole. But you like her because you’re a Nazi.”

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  51. @TheBoom
    The article is like must written by the left. It is built on fake news and false narratives. Cernovich, Chapman and Derb are not white nationalists. They just aren't ethno masochists which is something every woke white is supposed to be. In our day and age any white who isn't an ethno masochist is just like Hitler.

    Besides, if you want to understand the attraction of Asian women it is pretty easy to see that they are more likely to possess the traits traditionally found in white societies than are modern western white women. If you wonder why so many white men are attracted to Asian women, simply observe western white women for an afternoon and you will understand. Or, to make it really simple, compare the average dress size.

    Yes.

    All you have to do is look at the picture of this fugly, and it is self-explanatory. Women on the right tend to be beautiful and in shape by comparison to the marxist-feminists.

    Not all Asians are beautiful, and an ugly Asian in the USA is going to get what she can’t from quality men by becoming a darling of the left.

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  52. WHAT says:
    @Thomm

    White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do.
     
    Of course we do. Go to any 95% white gathering (say, an Oktoberfest or white frat party at a Big-10) and say WN things. You will get slammed (only verbally, if you are lucky) in short order.

    It is not that we even like blacks or Hispanics, but that WN wiggers are a shame that we wish to eradicate (you are genetic waste matter that is generated in the production of impressive white people (the other 80%), as I explained before).

    White Trashionalism is just another form of feminism, supported by incels like you. See here :

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/04/white-nationalism-is-a-goddess-cult/
    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/11/white-nationalists-want-white-women-to-trap-white-women-with-oops-pregnancies/

    Oh look, Shlomo trying to meme his fantasies into reality again.
    Truth is, all whites dislike muds. Not all whites are comfortable openly proclaiming their dislike. Yet.

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    Truth is, all whites dislike muds. Not all whites are comfortable openly proclaiming their dislike. Yet.
     
    Not the better-behaved and productive ones.

    Show how little you know.

    No one is more repulsive to respectable whites than a WN wigger. The thing is, you know it, which is why you are so butthurt. We don't want you around, and nature has designation you as waste matter to be removed from the white gene pool.

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  53. @Svigor

    Heh heh heh heh
     
    Greasy slope learned English from hentai and cracker jack boxes.

    And this is why racial purity taboos always, always fail, and even their defenders honor them in the breach not the observance. Which goes to show how they’re full of crap.
     
    Yeah, that's how Jews managed to survive for 2k years; panmixia.

    The Jews of 2k years ago are quite different from modern azkenazi jews who have significant european admixture on their maternal side. So they did race mix at least initially.

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  54. Derb is not a “white supremacist”; others are, more or less, white identitarians.

    And east Asians (or many south Asians) are not so phenotypically alien to us (whites). Of course, they are different, but “one drop rule” does not apply to them (think of Keanu Reeves). It’s blacks who are definitely “the other”.

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    the onedrop rule will apply to whites also as more of us realise your genetics are horrible its been going bad for the past 5000 yrs ,google it you will see i am saying the truth.
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  55. Brabantian says: • Website

    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle, which is really not the case … tho it is the nature of today’s pick-out-the-straw-man lefty press, to pretend that extreme views are the middle ones

    What is more the case, is that people are observing how, some cultures seem to be able to immigrate and get along quite well with a minimum of friction, conflict or criminality … and other cultures don’t … this does not imply ‘marry only your own race’

    And peope are also observing how a lot of immigration is oligarch-operated social manipulation, on the order of the 49 large-scale historical cases described in USA Pentagon advisor Kelly Greenhill’s book ‘Weapons of Mass Migration’ … a practice which even Karl Marx himself talked about in the 1800s, manipulated immigration as an oligarch tool to wreck, demoralise and impoverish working-class lives

    The sensible moderate ‘right’ is not opposed to organic, natural, freely-chosen inter-racial dating, mixing etc, which easily exists along with desire to preserve Western cultural heritage aspects honoured as valuable, such as the Enlightenment

    There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form, and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues … with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies … which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim

    It is an aesthetic sentiment strong enough that some whites do wind up saying things like ‘Once you partner with an Asian, you never go back to Caucasian’ … a ‘fetish’ thus I suppose

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    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle,
     
    You are so very wrong with this, miscegenation is the greatest crime, producing non white children means you have forfeited any right to pretend to defend European heritage.
    , @Bach

    It is an aesthetic sentiment strong enough that some whites do wind up saying things like ‘Once you partner with an Asian, you never go back to Caucasian’ … a ‘fetish’ thus I suppose
     
    The trouble is that it's a predominantly sexual fetish. It's not symptomatic of "self expansion" and "including of the other". There is a deep seated disdain for Asians in general on some level, including their mixed children, that prevails.
    , @üeljang
    "There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form..."

    It is almost difficult for me to stifle a chuckle whenever I hear this assertion.

    Why are people who tend to have opaque, jaundiced-looking skin that tans to Indian levels of negritude, large, broad, flat faces with small facial features and small foreheads, large teeth, stiff, bristly hair, small breasts, thick, stubby legs, etc. claimed to be "particularly beautiful" women? Most of them are precisely the opposite in my estimation, though a minority of them are in fact very beautiful. However, even the ones who are physically beautiful naturally and not by means of cosmetic or surgical enhancements tend to have the expressionless poker face that is typical of their folk, though I suspect that that dourness is at least in some part a learned cultural behavior.

    One physical advantage that a majority of Asian women currently have over a majority of White women is slimness, which must be mostly a result of differing dietary habits. (Considering only individuals who are not overweight, White women tend to have more feminine figures with a lower WHR. The typical Asian woman would be better described as "not overweight" rather than "svelte.") I suppose one could add "low body height" to the short list of Asian female physical advantages, since a certain subset of men seems to have a taste for that. One physical feature that I actually do find more attractive on average in Asians is their relatively underdeveloped chins, which appear feminine to me (although it is also a primitive feature as far as I know).

    "...and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues … with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies … which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim"

    Asian "cultural-martial-relationship virtues" can be condensed pretty much to "putting up with just about anything as long as he brings home the dough." The women generally at least appear to be the quintessential pragmatists among extant humankind, not caring about morality or emotional integrity.

    In summary, I would say that the average White woman has the upper hand over the average Asian woman (over the typical female member of any non-White race for that matter) in terms of their innate personal endowments. However, Asian women definitely lead the pack when it comes to "added value" acquired through their own efforts: effective use of cosmetic and sartorial enhancements, deportment, obsequiousness, etc. Even their diction and tone of voice is a ruse and not natural by any means; one may observe that the average Asian woman actually has a quite husky voice and is brash in speech if one happens to catch her off guard (which is rare) chatting in what she believes to be a private space. In other words, Asian women tend to make great use of their cunning to make up for what they lack in beauty and gentleness.

    You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say cats, I say Satanic psychopaths.
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    Whatever bro
    , @Truth
    I'm with you Brab. I mean, we should encourage Northern European white women to mate with rich Chinese men, there are a lot of them, and why do we need natural blonde hair anyway? The millions of resulting light yellows in Oslo can just get it from a bottle
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  56. As the NY Times is just a propaganda rag, the only proper way to read it is like the old Soviet Pravda: between the lines, to discern what actual objectives are being furthered by this particular disinformation.

    The actual purposes of this article are

    1) To try to confound the alt-right with white nationalism in the public mind,

    2) To distract attention from Jewish leftist men marrying Asians, and

    3) Generally to try to throw sand into the gears of the alt-right.

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    The actual purposes of this article are

    4...to score Audrea a date with a white guy.

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  57. neutral says:
    @biz
    Craving yellowtail is really the least of the white nationalist contradiction problems.

    Worshiping Hitler, who considered Slavs sub-human, while at the same time pining for Eastern European mail-order brides is probably worse.

    Worshiping effete Confederate aristocrats like Robert E. Lee who wouldn't give their downscale ass the time of day is also pretty glaring.

    Building a movement full of German, Irish, Slavic, and Italian Americans while claiming that being "founding stock" Americans is what counts is another doozy.

    Oscillating between whether Christianity is the one true religion or a Jewish cuck plot is probably the worst.

    The contradiction lies with you jews, actually more precisely deception. You swap from a race to a religion whichever is more convenient at the time, you preach open borders for whites and expelling Africans from Israel, you want whites to worship the holocaust but have jews commit ethnic cleansing at the same (and even celebrate old genocides in the bible as holiday), you pretend to be victims and then jail and destroy the lives of anyone who speaks out against you.

    As for the garbage you mentioned, can you point out which white nationalists advocate for mail order brides, or care if Lee was an aristocrat or not, or care about being “American” over being white.

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  58. neutral says:
    @Brabantian
    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle, which is really not the case ... tho it is the nature of today's pick-out-the-straw-man lefty press, to pretend that extreme views are the middle ones

    What is more the case, is that people are observing how, some cultures seem to be able to immigrate and get along quite well with a minimum of friction, conflict or criminality ... and other cultures don't ... this does not imply 'marry only your own race'

    And peope are also observing how a lot of immigration is oligarch-operated social manipulation, on the order of the 49 large-scale historical cases described in USA Pentagon advisor Kelly Greenhill's book 'Weapons of Mass Migration' ... a practice which even Karl Marx himself talked about in the 1800s, manipulated immigration as an oligarch tool to wreck, demoralise and impoverish working-class lives

    The sensible moderate 'right' is not opposed to organic, natural, freely-chosen inter-racial dating, mixing etc, which easily exists along with desire to preserve Western cultural heritage aspects honoured as valuable, such as the Enlightenment

    There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form, and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues ... with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies ... which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim

    It is an aesthetic sentiment strong enough that some whites do wind up saying things like 'Once you partner with an Asian, you never go back to Caucasian' ... a 'fetish' thus I suppose

    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle,

    You are so very wrong with this, miscegenation is the greatest crime, producing non white children means you have forfeited any right to pretend to defend European heritage.

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    forfeited any right to pretend to defend European heritage.
     
    The irony is that European heritage can never be defended based purely on race. Race should rather be an outcome of Europe's proud heritage.

    Strong heritage --> strong race.

    White men's fetish for Asian women is a direct symptom of his collapasing heritage. He's groping for a life-boat. But it won't work. Asian women will devour him in the end.
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    I wish there more of you man this way we get to keep our Beautiful EDAR genes to ourselves and you can keep your genes to yours thumbs up my friend.
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  59. @biz
    Craving yellowtail is really the least of the white nationalist contradiction problems.

    Worshiping Hitler, who considered Slavs sub-human, while at the same time pining for Eastern European mail-order brides is probably worse.

    Worshiping effete Confederate aristocrats like Robert E. Lee who wouldn't give their downscale ass the time of day is also pretty glaring.

    Building a movement full of German, Irish, Slavic, and Italian Americans while claiming that being "founding stock" Americans is what counts is another doozy.

    Oscillating between whether Christianity is the one true religion or a Jewish cuck plot is probably the worst.

    jeez, dude, lay off a bit. you might drive them to suicide.

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  60. Bach says:
    @llloyd
    I'm married to one and soon found that out. However she is also a lovely person who gets furiously jealous if I so much as look at another woman. The Western female assertiveness is self conscious and does not exist in Asia unless foreign corruption. Asian women are natural flirts like cats that they most resemble. If I am sitting or standing beside a woman young or middle aged in a train or bus in China, most will come on to me. Truly.

    Asian women are natural flirts like cats that they most resemble. If I am sitting or standing beside a woman young or middle aged in a train or bus in China, most will come on to me. Truly.

    As I said, while Western civilization crumbles, desperate white men have resorted to ego stroking such as this. Enjoy it while it lasts. It will be over soon.

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    Nah it's true. China girls have a massive white man fetish. It's partly because they perceive white societies to be far in advance of their own, and partly because white men are extremely rare (in China) and therefore seem more valuable.
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  61. Bach says:
    @Brabantian
    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle, which is really not the case ... tho it is the nature of today's pick-out-the-straw-man lefty press, to pretend that extreme views are the middle ones

    What is more the case, is that people are observing how, some cultures seem to be able to immigrate and get along quite well with a minimum of friction, conflict or criminality ... and other cultures don't ... this does not imply 'marry only your own race'

    And peope are also observing how a lot of immigration is oligarch-operated social manipulation, on the order of the 49 large-scale historical cases described in USA Pentagon advisor Kelly Greenhill's book 'Weapons of Mass Migration' ... a practice which even Karl Marx himself talked about in the 1800s, manipulated immigration as an oligarch tool to wreck, demoralise and impoverish working-class lives

    The sensible moderate 'right' is not opposed to organic, natural, freely-chosen inter-racial dating, mixing etc, which easily exists along with desire to preserve Western cultural heritage aspects honoured as valuable, such as the Enlightenment

    There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form, and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues ... with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies ... which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim

    It is an aesthetic sentiment strong enough that some whites do wind up saying things like 'Once you partner with an Asian, you never go back to Caucasian' ... a 'fetish' thus I suppose

    It is an aesthetic sentiment strong enough that some whites do wind up saying things like ‘Once you partner with an Asian, you never go back to Caucasian’ … a ‘fetish’ thus I suppose

    The trouble is that it’s a predominantly sexual fetish. It’s not symptomatic of “self expansion” and “including of the other”. There is a deep seated disdain for Asians in general on some level, including their mixed children, that prevails.

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  62. Bach says:
    @neutral

    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle,
     
    You are so very wrong with this, miscegenation is the greatest crime, producing non white children means you have forfeited any right to pretend to defend European heritage.

    forfeited any right to pretend to defend European heritage.

    The irony is that European heritage can never be defended based purely on race. Race should rather be an outcome of Europe’s proud heritage.

    Strong heritage –> strong race.

    White men’s fetish for Asian women is a direct symptom of his collapasing heritage. He’s groping for a life-boat. But it won’t work. Asian women will devour him in the end.

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    Race is the European heritage, it can ONLY be defended purely on race. Mixed offspring or pure breed third world immigrants can emulate the traditional European cultures all they want, it will never make them European.
    , @AaronB

    The irony is that European heritage can never be defended based purely on race. Race should rather be an outcome of Europe’s proud heritage.

    Strong heritage –> strong race
     
    Very well said. WNs don't get this. It's why the current attempt to found nationalism on HBD, and not culture or religion, will fail.

    You cannot feel proud of your race unless it stands for a deep ethical or cultural vision. Ironically, "racism" cannot be based on genes - rather, a genetic group becomes sanctified by representing an ethical or cultural vision.

    But Western culture is so sunk in materialism it has no hope. It's stuck in orbit around the same failed ideologies.

    Incidentally, China is heading down the same path and adopting the Western culture of abstraction. In a hundred years Chinese "racism" will suffer the same collapse, unless it reverses course.I
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  63. Alfa158 says:
    @Thomm

    Asians are inferior to Caucasians.
     
    And yet, you still can't get a man, even though White Trashionalism is an ideology that is 99% male.

    That is why you are desperate for male attention, even though you have nothing that a man needs or wants.

    Heh heh heh heh

    TD, is that you my man?

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  64. neutral says:
    @Thomm

    White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do.
     
    Of course we do. Go to any 95% white gathering (say, an Oktoberfest or white frat party at a Big-10) and say WN things. You will get slammed (only verbally, if you are lucky) in short order.

    It is not that we even like blacks or Hispanics, but that WN wiggers are a shame that we wish to eradicate (you are genetic waste matter that is generated in the production of impressive white people (the other 80%), as I explained before).

    White Trashionalism is just another form of feminism, supported by incels like you. See here :

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/04/white-nationalism-is-a-goddess-cult/
    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/11/white-nationalists-want-white-women-to-trap-white-women-with-oops-pregnancies/

    Give it a break with that narrative, it is beyond stupid. You want to simultaneously spout how whites who do not worship Israel are vermin and that you are NOT vermin because you are superior because you believe in racial equality?!? This is one giant contradiction, liberals are obviously not going to agree with your view, same for cuckservatives, so who exactly are you appealing to?

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  65. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    White culture may have its problems, but I blame this on the RCC, the Zioevangizers and Freemasons. These universal church, brotherhood beliefs are now the bane of the West. But people are beginning to realize the problems these institutions are causing and leaving them. This is the beginning of the needed change.

    But people are beginning to realize the problems these institutions are causing and leaving them. This is the beginning of the needed change.

    I don’t see the Jewish/Zionist death grip on the West attenuating. At all.

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  66. neutral says:
    @Bach

    forfeited any right to pretend to defend European heritage.
     
    The irony is that European heritage can never be defended based purely on race. Race should rather be an outcome of Europe's proud heritage.

    Strong heritage --> strong race.

    White men's fetish for Asian women is a direct symptom of his collapasing heritage. He's groping for a life-boat. But it won't work. Asian women will devour him in the end.

    Race is the European heritage, it can ONLY be defended purely on race. Mixed offspring or pure breed third world immigrants can emulate the traditional European cultures all they want, it will never make them European.

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    Defending culture based on race is scraping the bottom of the barrel and appealing to primitive/regressive instincts.

    In order to save European heritage, including its race, you must appeal to HIGHER instincts.
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  67. AaronB says:
    @Bach

    forfeited any right to pretend to defend European heritage.
     
    The irony is that European heritage can never be defended based purely on race. Race should rather be an outcome of Europe's proud heritage.

    Strong heritage --> strong race.

    White men's fetish for Asian women is a direct symptom of his collapasing heritage. He's groping for a life-boat. But it won't work. Asian women will devour him in the end.

    The irony is that European heritage can never be defended based purely on race. Race should rather be an outcome of Europe’s proud heritage.

    Strong heritage –> strong race

    Very well said. WNs don’t get this. It’s why the current attempt to found nationalism on HBD, and not culture or religion, will fail.

    You cannot feel proud of your race unless it stands for a deep ethical or cultural vision. Ironically, “racism” cannot be based on genes – rather, a genetic group becomes sanctified by representing an ethical or cultural vision.

    But Western culture is so sunk in materialism it has no hope. It’s stuck in orbit around the same failed ideologies.

    Incidentally, China is heading down the same path and adopting the Western culture of abstraction. In a hundred years Chinese “racism” will suffer the same collapse, unless it reverses course.I

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    Abstraction is one of those interesting things - both very useful but ultimately false. Alas, confusing the map with the territory appears to be typical for all.
    , @Bach

    It’s why the current attempt to found nationalism on HBD, and not culture or religion, will fail.
     
    Yes, what's important are ideas, ideals, traditions, values and the myths and stories we share.

    You cannot feel proud of your race unless it stands for a deep ethical or cultural vision.
     
    I think race should be like air and water -- fundamentally important but unnoticed. When you prioritize the important things, like ideas and values, race falls into place naturally.

    But when you make it about race and regress to shape, form and color, then you end up here: affirmative action, quotas, political correctness, so-called social justice movements, multiculturalism and the elevation of the absurd.
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  68. Bach says:
    @neutral
    Race is the European heritage, it can ONLY be defended purely on race. Mixed offspring or pure breed third world immigrants can emulate the traditional European cultures all they want, it will never make them European.

    Defending culture based on race is scraping the bottom of the barrel and appealing to primitive/regressive instincts.

    In order to save European heritage, including its race, you must appeal to HIGHER instincts.

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    Your "HIGHER" instincts means mass immigration and miscegenation, this means no more white people left. Your desire of having a non white Europe still remain"European" (according to your definition) will never come to fruition, the new non white populations will not care about dead white men such Aristotle, Caesar, Napoleon, etc. In the real world when non whites replace whites this has so far only ended up with the push to remove all things in history that are white, there is nothing that indicates to me that this will ever change. I don't really blame the non whites wanting to replace dead white people with heroes of their own race, that is a completely natural thing to do.
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  69. üeljang says:
    @Brabantian
    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle, which is really not the case ... tho it is the nature of today's pick-out-the-straw-man lefty press, to pretend that extreme views are the middle ones

    What is more the case, is that people are observing how, some cultures seem to be able to immigrate and get along quite well with a minimum of friction, conflict or criminality ... and other cultures don't ... this does not imply 'marry only your own race'

    And peope are also observing how a lot of immigration is oligarch-operated social manipulation, on the order of the 49 large-scale historical cases described in USA Pentagon advisor Kelly Greenhill's book 'Weapons of Mass Migration' ... a practice which even Karl Marx himself talked about in the 1800s, manipulated immigration as an oligarch tool to wreck, demoralise and impoverish working-class lives

    The sensible moderate 'right' is not opposed to organic, natural, freely-chosen inter-racial dating, mixing etc, which easily exists along with desire to preserve Western cultural heritage aspects honoured as valuable, such as the Enlightenment

    There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form, and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues ... with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies ... which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim

    It is an aesthetic sentiment strong enough that some whites do wind up saying things like 'Once you partner with an Asian, you never go back to Caucasian' ... a 'fetish' thus I suppose

    “There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form…”

    It is almost difficult for me to stifle a chuckle whenever I hear this assertion.

    Why are people who tend to have opaque, jaundiced-looking skin that tans to Indian levels of negritude, large, broad, flat faces with small facial features and small foreheads, large teeth, stiff, bristly hair, small breasts, thick, stubby legs, etc. claimed to be “particularly beautiful” women? Most of them are precisely the opposite in my estimation, though a minority of them are in fact very beautiful. However, even the ones who are physically beautiful naturally and not by means of cosmetic or surgical enhancements tend to have the expressionless poker face that is typical of their folk, though I suspect that that dourness is at least in some part a learned cultural behavior.

    One physical advantage that a majority of Asian women currently have over a majority of White women is slimness, which must be mostly a result of differing dietary habits. (Considering only individuals who are not overweight, White women tend to have more feminine figures with a lower WHR. The typical Asian woman would be better described as “not overweight” rather than “svelte.”) I suppose one could add “low body height” to the short list of Asian female physical advantages, since a certain subset of men seems to have a taste for that. One physical feature that I actually do find more attractive on average in Asians is their relatively underdeveloped chins, which appear feminine to me (although it is also a primitive feature as far as I know).

    “…and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues … with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies … which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim”

    Asian “cultural-martial-relationship virtues” can be condensed pretty much to “putting up with just about anything as long as he brings home the dough.” The women generally at least appear to be the quintessential pragmatists among extant humankind, not caring about morality or emotional integrity.

    In summary, I would say that the average White woman has the upper hand over the average Asian woman (over the typical female member of any non-White race for that matter) in terms of their innate personal endowments. However, Asian women definitely lead the pack when it comes to “added value” acquired through their own efforts: effective use of cosmetic and sartorial enhancements, deportment, obsequiousness, etc. Even their diction and tone of voice is a ruse and not natural by any means; one may observe that the average Asian woman actually has a quite husky voice and is brash in speech if one happens to catch her off guard (which is rare) chatting in what she believes to be a private space. In other words, Asian women tend to make great use of their cunning to make up for what they lack in beauty and gentleness.

    You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say cats, I say Satanic psychopaths.

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    Yeah buddy preach more of this to your fellow whites speciiaally the low impulse pleasure loving small brained british ,I agree with most of what you say and I have only one comeback EDAR .
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  70. Tulip says:

    I don’t know that “Asian-Americans” are a “model minority”, they seem to be a “high IQ” minority, and therefore over-represented (like certain more verbally gifted ethnics) in good jobs in certain industries.

    Obviously, since Blacks and Hispanics fail because of an evil conspiracy by white supremacists, and it has nothing to do with aptitude and talent, we now know the true reason for Asian success: white supremacists want to nail Asian girls, so they make sure the SAT is culturally biased in favor of Asians so there are plenty of successful Asians with eligible daughters.

    But seriously, as high-IQ/low crime specimens from much more collectivist and traditional societies, what is there not to like about Asians? At least if you are looking at quality over preservation. Europeans probably need a little more pro-hive genes in their gene pool at this point. . . the emerging Hapa army may be unstoppable. If we could just figure out how to breed Hapa men with Euro musculature and throwing skills, we’d be set.

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    "But seriously, as high-IQ/low crime specimens from much more collectivist and traditional societies, what is there not to like about Asians? At least if you are looking at quality over preservation. Europeans probably need a little more pro-hive genes in their gene pool at this point. . . the emerging Hapa army may be unstoppable. If we could just figure out how to breed Hapa men with Euro musculature and throwing skills, we’d be set." you are a self hating white guy man stick to you beautful white chicks.
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  71. neutral says:
    @Bach
    Defending culture based on race is scraping the bottom of the barrel and appealing to primitive/regressive instincts.

    In order to save European heritage, including its race, you must appeal to HIGHER instincts.

    Your “HIGHER” instincts means mass immigration and miscegenation, this means no more white people left. Your desire of having a non white Europe still remain”European” (according to your definition) will never come to fruition, the new non white populations will not care about dead white men such Aristotle, Caesar, Napoleon, etc. In the real world when non whites replace whites this has so far only ended up with the push to remove all things in history that are white, there is nothing that indicates to me that this will ever change. I don’t really blame the non whites wanting to replace dead white people with heroes of their own race, that is a completely natural thing to do.

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    Your desire of having a non white Europe still remain”European” (according to your definition) will never come to fruition, the new non white populations will not care about dead white men such Aristotle, Caesar, Napoleon, etc.
     
    The Catholic Church seemed to care a lot about Moses and King David even though they were not European. Conversely, various European philosophers and scientists make significant appearances in East Asian media and education:

    https://www.thechinastory.org/2015/10/carl-schmitt-in-china/

    The ability to derive worthwhile ideas from various sources regardless of their specific ethnicity seems to be useful.

    , @Bach

    Your “HIGHER” instincts means mass immigration and miscegenation, this means no more white people left.
     
    No, higher instincts mean family, community, unity, harmony, safety, stability and amity. It means striving for peace at home and abroad. And immigration only when it accrues to the benefit of the citizens at home now and in the future.

    Your desire of having a non white Europe
     
    I don't desire that.

    Mine is just an exhortation towards the objectives you seek. "Racism" can never be the "way" because it has too many negative side-effects, like colonialism and aggressiveness, which then leads to where you are now: blowback, guilt, open borders and reverse-colonization.
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  72. polskijoe says:

    Not alt-right myself (dont care much for the movement, too many disagreements, significant portion of neonazis, etc), although Im pro European.

    Asian is not a race. (the US census categories are really bad btw).
    West Asians, South Asians, SE, East Asians are different.
    And inside each of them there are differences.

    Anyway never saw anything special in Asian (from Asia) girls. Maybe a minority of attractive ones but still wouldnt go for them.

    Slavic women are enough for me.

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  73. @AaronB

    The irony is that European heritage can never be defended based purely on race. Race should rather be an outcome of Europe’s proud heritage.

    Strong heritage –> strong race
     
    Very well said. WNs don't get this. It's why the current attempt to found nationalism on HBD, and not culture or religion, will fail.

    You cannot feel proud of your race unless it stands for a deep ethical or cultural vision. Ironically, "racism" cannot be based on genes - rather, a genetic group becomes sanctified by representing an ethical or cultural vision.

    But Western culture is so sunk in materialism it has no hope. It's stuck in orbit around the same failed ideologies.

    Incidentally, China is heading down the same path and adopting the Western culture of abstraction. In a hundred years Chinese "racism" will suffer the same collapse, unless it reverses course.I

    Abstraction is one of those interesting things – both very useful but ultimately false. Alas, confusing the map with the territory appears to be typical for all.

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    That's a good way of putting it.

    It's seductive because it really can be useful.

    You know I'm a great admirer of traditional Chinese culture, but modern China has shown me we are all vulnerable.

    But who knows, China mat surprise us yet.
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  74. @neutral
    Your "HIGHER" instincts means mass immigration and miscegenation, this means no more white people left. Your desire of having a non white Europe still remain"European" (according to your definition) will never come to fruition, the new non white populations will not care about dead white men such Aristotle, Caesar, Napoleon, etc. In the real world when non whites replace whites this has so far only ended up with the push to remove all things in history that are white, there is nothing that indicates to me that this will ever change. I don't really blame the non whites wanting to replace dead white people with heroes of their own race, that is a completely natural thing to do.

    Your desire of having a non white Europe still remain”European” (according to your definition) will never come to fruition, the new non white populations will not care about dead white men such Aristotle, Caesar, Napoleon, etc.

    The Catholic Church seemed to care a lot about Moses and King David even though they were not European. Conversely, various European philosophers and scientists make significant appearances in East Asian media and education:

    https://www.thechinastory.org/2015/10/carl-schmitt-in-china/

    The ability to derive worthwhile ideas from various sources regardless of their specific ethnicity seems to be useful.

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    The depictions of bible characters were generally white, since these were mythical characters they should be treated as such. I never once mentioned not being able to talk about other famous people from other races, I am talking about who from the past matters more. If you read sites like Unz.com then you would know that is true that white people are being erased from history in the sense that they are no longer important as much as they used to be.

    If people in China are tearing down statues of Mao and replacing it with MLK, or if they are revering the poems written by Africans more than old Chinese poets then you might have point, I am however very sure that this is not happening, and this is not happening because they are not undergoing a race replacement, should hypothetically one day China is majority Indian or perhaps African, then you cannot seriously believe that this new "Chinese" population will be talking about the past Chinese as you do now.
    , @attilathehen
    Moses, King David, Jesus were Caucasian, still white.
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  75. @Twodees Partain
    OK, everybody, come on now. Obviously there is a huge problem here. These White Supremacist guys must be choogling with gooks, because the author of the article is a gookette. Surely she would know, right?

    Everybody take a step back and think about it, OK?

    Choogling with Gooks

    Great name for a band!
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    “And here’s a cover from our new album.:

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    Yeah, John Fogerty may have invented that word, because he was trying to push it into the vernacular of the '60s. Back when CCR made that song, they are the only ones I ever heard using it. I always thought it was kind of funny, but dumb-sounding.
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  76. @Bach

    We are getting the cream of these Asians races.
     
    That's a convenient rationalization but it doesn't explain it completely.

    Asians were doing well even back in the 70s, 80s and earlier when those who immigrated were dregs from the homeland.

    I don’t often agree with Mrs. Hen here, but that’s not a very good argument. We were getting an even creamier (not talking skin color) cream-o-the-crop bunch of Orientals* back in the past. It was very hard for anyone from mainland China to get over here to stay until sometime in the 1990′s.

    * Can we just call them Orientals to make this clearer. Asia covers a lot of ground – it is the biggest continent, you know. Oh, and if you’re gonna choogle an “Asian”, you want to choogle an Oriental … just sayin’. It’s called “yellow fever”, not “curry fever” for a reason.

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    We were getting an even creamier (not talking skin color) cream-o-the-crop bunch of Orientals* back in the past. It was very hard for anyone from mainland China to get over here to stay until sometime in the 1990′s.
     
    I don't have stats so I'm just speaking from memory and experience.

    Yes, at some point, maybe the 90s, more educated/wealthier Asians began to arrive. But before that, they were more or less the dregs. Yet, they succeeded and their children went on to elite schools, too.
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  77. Bach says:
    @neutral
    Your "HIGHER" instincts means mass immigration and miscegenation, this means no more white people left. Your desire of having a non white Europe still remain"European" (according to your definition) will never come to fruition, the new non white populations will not care about dead white men such Aristotle, Caesar, Napoleon, etc. In the real world when non whites replace whites this has so far only ended up with the push to remove all things in history that are white, there is nothing that indicates to me that this will ever change. I don't really blame the non whites wanting to replace dead white people with heroes of their own race, that is a completely natural thing to do.

    Your “HIGHER” instincts means mass immigration and miscegenation, this means no more white people left.

    No, higher instincts mean family, community, unity, harmony, safety, stability and amity. It means striving for peace at home and abroad. And immigration only when it accrues to the benefit of the citizens at home now and in the future.

    Your desire of having a non white Europe

    I don’t desire that.

    Mine is just an exhortation towards the objectives you seek. “Racism” can never be the “way” because it has too many negative side-effects, like colonialism and aggressiveness, which then leads to where you are now: blowback, guilt, open borders and reverse-colonization.

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  78. @Bach

    The Alt-Right’s Asian Fetish . . . Maybe this is where the Asian girlfriends of alt-right men stand. - Audrea Lim
     
    Why does Lim single out the alt-right? Is yellow fever among the alt-left more benevolent?

    The problem is not just the Asian girlfriends of alt-right men, but the Asian girlfriends of all white/non-Asian men. Yellow fever is everywhere from the alt-right to the alt-left.

    Asian women are also part of the problem as well. They're anything but innocent in enabling fetishes and perpetuating stereotypes.

    Interesting stuff all (to me), but how bout we get down to brass tacks here on this one.

    Lots of Western men like the Oriental women because they have been better at keeping their bodies in shape, especially the rear-end portions. That’s what it comes down to if you go ahead an admit to yourself why you like girls to begin with.

    Sure, a stable personality matters lots in the long run, but maybe all the guys being discussed here, or certain parts of them, are not always particularly concerned with the long run.

    BTW, with their diets changing now, mostly just to where there is plenty enough food, including the ubiquitous high-glycemic-indexed white rice, the Oriental ladies’ bodies are changing too. It may become a wash before too long.

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    BTW, with their diets changing now, mostly just to where there is plenty enough food, including the ubiquitous high-glycemic-indexed white rice, the Oriental ladies’ bodies are changing too. It may become a wash before too long.
     
    My understanding is that widespread obesity is limited only to the United States( "Two of every three American men are considered to be overweight or obese, but the rates for women are far higher" per La Wik). Even Europe still has significantly less, and it might have something to do with the quality and pricing of food.

    Hopefully the issue remains mostly isolated to the US.
    , @Bach

    Lots of Western men like the Oriental women because they have been better at keeping their bodies in shape, especially the rear-end portions
     
    The Western male's infatuation with Asian women goes far beyond physique because physique is probably among the least of their assets. Most Western men would choose lithe Latinas in spades.

    It's obviously a combination of things, including culture, intelligence, family values, work ethics, and what they represent as well: Asia -- the new century.

    Still, as I said, it's a desperate move by desperate men. Asian women cannot save Western civilization but precipitate its downfall by giving it false hope.
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  79. neutral says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Your desire of having a non white Europe still remain”European” (according to your definition) will never come to fruition, the new non white populations will not care about dead white men such Aristotle, Caesar, Napoleon, etc.
     
    The Catholic Church seemed to care a lot about Moses and King David even though they were not European. Conversely, various European philosophers and scientists make significant appearances in East Asian media and education:

    https://www.thechinastory.org/2015/10/carl-schmitt-in-china/

    The ability to derive worthwhile ideas from various sources regardless of their specific ethnicity seems to be useful.

    The depictions of bible characters were generally white, since these were mythical characters they should be treated as such. I never once mentioned not being able to talk about other famous people from other races, I am talking about who from the past matters more. If you read sites like Unz.com then you would know that is true that white people are being erased from history in the sense that they are no longer important as much as they used to be.

    If people in China are tearing down statues of Mao and replacing it with MLK, or if they are revering the poems written by Africans more than old Chinese poets then you might have point, I am however very sure that this is not happening, and this is not happening because they are not undergoing a race replacement, should hypothetically one day China is majority Indian or perhaps African, then you cannot seriously believe that this new “Chinese” population will be talking about the past Chinese as you do now.

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    Well, its not really like China talks about old Chinese poets as much as concepts which are essentially Western imports, most particularly the wholesale and widespread worship of capitalism as the greatest god above all. Or the "West-loving" tendency that typified much of the urban population until fairly recently, and even so is a major driving force. Even Communism is a Western import, and there's certainly a lot of status and state-required classes to study Karl Marx.

    As a race, we've already experienced very thorough cultural and epistemic defeats. Life goes on. There's something to be said for endurance in spite of setbacks. Technically, the Chinese are pretty much a mix with at least two distinct genetic origins, but nonetheless surviving as a culture and language for 4,000+ years, not losing their own history and language and absorbing other cultures, then having it heavily influence the other countries in the east Asia region, and becoming the most populous nation in the world, and the second largest economy in the world.

    , @Truth

    The depictions of bible characters were generally white, since these were mythical characters they should be treated as such.
     
    "deptictions", yes, "descriptions", no.
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  80. Bach says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    I don't often agree with Mrs. Hen here, but that's not a very good argument. We were getting an even creamier (not talking skin color) cream-o-the-crop bunch of Orientals* back in the past. It was very hard for anyone from mainland China to get over here to stay until sometime in the 1990's.

    * Can we just call them Orientals to make this clearer. Asia covers a lot of ground - it is the biggest continent, you know. Oh, and if you're gonna choogle an "Asian", you want to choogle an Oriental ... just sayin'. It's called "yellow fever", not "curry fever" for a reason.

    We were getting an even creamier (not talking skin color) cream-o-the-crop bunch of Orientals* back in the past. It was very hard for anyone from mainland China to get over here to stay until sometime in the 1990′s.

    I don’t have stats so I’m just speaking from memory and experience.

    Yes, at some point, maybe the 90s, more educated/wealthier Asians began to arrive. But before that, they were more or less the dregs. Yet, they succeeded and their children went on to elite schools, too.

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    ***** First of all, let me apologize for not replying sooner - I didn't have enough time to write a thing on here yesterday *****

    I am more familiar with the Chinese situation in particular, Mr. Bach. They are a majority, at this point of all the Orientals in our country, maybe by a pretty big margin too.

    I know there were lots of Vietnamese people who were real refugees who came from the mid-'70's through about the early '80's. They were from all levels of society - when the Commies came into Saigon, it was best to get the hell out, and you could say we owed them, some at least.

    Japanese here are not so many, and most that came for setting up US domestic plants for autos (mostly) were I'm sure on the high side of intelligence - lots of engineers.

    Koreans are also not very many in the big scheme of things, and, possible with the exception of some war orphans/refugees way back in the '50's they are also the cream of the crop.

    I will agree that almost all groups of Orientals have done well, with the exception of the Hmong from Laos (or is it Cambodia?) who just don't fit in to the modern world some of the time (see VDare, as usual)

    BTW, I don't consider the wealthier Chinese necessarily the better ones. It used to be that one had to be a top-notch (for China, at the time) engineer or scientist to come here. Now, the spoiled Chinese kids sent here to get a college degree, and the ones here to launder the filthy money obtained via their $600/month government job in China by buying $2,000,000 houses in Seattle are NOT the most hard-working and are often a detriment (some of the kids will become Cultural Revolution 2.0 SJW's, the way it looks).
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  81. @Achmed E. Newman
    Interesting stuff all (to me), but how bout we get down to brass tacks here on this one.

    Lots of Western men like the Oriental women because they have been better at keeping their bodies in shape, especially the rear-end portions. That's what it comes down to if you go ahead an admit to yourself why you like girls to begin with.

    Sure, a stable personality matters lots in the long run, but maybe all the guys being discussed here, or certain parts of them, are not always particularly concerned with the long run.

    BTW, with their diets changing now, mostly just to where there is plenty enough food, including the ubiquitous high-glycemic-indexed white rice, the Oriental ladies' bodies are changing too. It may become a wash before too long.

    BTW, with their diets changing now, mostly just to where there is plenty enough food, including the ubiquitous high-glycemic-indexed white rice, the Oriental ladies’ bodies are changing too. It may become a wash before too long.

    My understanding is that widespread obesity is limited only to the United States( “Two of every three American men are considered to be overweight or obese, but the rates for women are far higher” per La Wik). Even Europe still has significantly less, and it might have something to do with the quality and pricing of food.

    Hopefully the issue remains mostly isolated to the US.

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    Here are obesity figures for Asia: https://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/20170622/Tech-Science/Obesity-in-Asia-reaches-epidemic-level

    You are Chinese and have a white wife and Chinese offspring. I believe you live in Canada, still a Western nation. How's her weight doing?

    The USA is Western. You are not. If you live in the West, isolate yourself and Chinese family to China.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    ***** First of all, let me apologize for not replying sooner – I didn’t have enough time to write a thing on here yesterday *****

    I am sure you are right on the obesity numbers, as USA is NUMBER 1! Ha, but really the number of truly obese people must be under 5 % or so, but that is enough to really be noticed vs. maybe .01% even in the '70's. (Yes, I am pulling numbers out of my ass, but I get fairly good estimates that way.)

    However, Daniel, my experience in China, and in place in the US with lots of Chinese, is that the number of Oriental girls who are 10-20 lb overweight is very significant. I don't think it was like that even 20 years back, with good reasons, no all-you-want-to-eat diets and lots of exercise still part of daily life (in China, at least).

    Now, I don't maintain that 10-20 lb over slim is any kind of health problem. However, and this is for the women readers, you need to one day look at the truth in they eye. Men like the curves that women have - these curves are obscured by extra fat - that's all there is to it. You can deny the truth all you want, but if you get your body to the shape in which those curves stand out to show what your body was made for, you will get all the admiring glances and other stuff that you want. I don't care that "men shouldn't care about that". They do anyway. IT'S! NOT! NICE! TO! FOOL! MOTHER! NATURE!

    Sorry, Mr. Chieh, I hijacked my own reply.

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  82. Bach says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Interesting stuff all (to me), but how bout we get down to brass tacks here on this one.

    Lots of Western men like the Oriental women because they have been better at keeping their bodies in shape, especially the rear-end portions. That's what it comes down to if you go ahead an admit to yourself why you like girls to begin with.

    Sure, a stable personality matters lots in the long run, but maybe all the guys being discussed here, or certain parts of them, are not always particularly concerned with the long run.

    BTW, with their diets changing now, mostly just to where there is plenty enough food, including the ubiquitous high-glycemic-indexed white rice, the Oriental ladies' bodies are changing too. It may become a wash before too long.

    Lots of Western men like the Oriental women because they have been better at keeping their bodies in shape, especially the rear-end portions

    The Western male’s infatuation with Asian women goes far beyond physique because physique is probably among the least of their assets. Most Western men would choose lithe Latinas in spades.

    It’s obviously a combination of things, including culture, intelligence, family values, work ethics, and what they represent as well: Asia — the new century.

    Still, as I said, it’s a desperate move by desperate men. Asian women cannot save Western civilization but precipitate its downfall by giving it false hope.

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    Again, I respectfully don't agree, Mr. Bach. I think the Orientals have great physiques, but I have been called an ass-man many times. (Just the other day ... in the middle of an intersection ... "Hey, you're an ass, man!"). Seriously, in a long-term relationship, also, the Orientals have an advantage in Westerners' minds, because the western women have been so brainwashed with the feminist bullshit. It ruins what could have been otherwise good relationships.

    I say "in Westerners' minds" because I do agree with some other commenters that you may not get what you think you are getting in this respect. There is still this longstanding reputation, still partially true, that the Oriental women are more subservient, and just act like females.

    That brings up the Latinas, as you did. Unz readers may be familiar with Fred Reed and his new-found Mexicanity. I disagree with him on much, but can't argue when he writes about the women's womenly attitude down there - yeah, they like to be women - what a refreshing change from most of them in America, I must say. However, here's my problem. Have you seen even 10% of Latina women whose rear has not blown up beyond reasonable standards upon reaching 18 y/o... occasionally this my be pushed beyond 25. I don't want that.


    Still, as I said, it’s a desperate move by desperate men.
     
    I'll give you desperation, Mr. Bach, and that is a guy who has kids with an American women who has turned into a un-sexy, bitchy feminist schrew who can take his kids away at a moment's notice if he doesn't do and buy what she wants. It's not just the 20 years of his labor in the form of the house and other assets. The worse part is that his own flesh and blood can be forced upon her will via family court to make him a part-time parent that will undeservedly take the blame for the way his broken-home, formerly great kids grow up. It's a wonder more family court judges aren't shot.

    What do you say to that, Mr. Bach. You may be mistaking desperation for wisdom in the case of these alt-right guys ... and hornyness, of course ...

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  83. biz says:
    @attilathehen
    Which Asians? The only Asians that have ever done well are the Japanese. Vietnam, Cambodia, China were dealing with the effects of Communism. The Philippines has an average IQ of 84. Indonesia has low IQ peoples. Hong Kong and Singapore are small nations.

    Cambodia?? Do you mean in some ancient Angkor Wat times? Because in the past 50 years they are pretty much the opposite of “doing well.”

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  84. biz says:
    @Svigor

    Heh heh heh heh
     
    Greasy slope learned English from hentai and cracker jack boxes.

    And this is why racial purity taboos always, always fail, and even their defenders honor them in the breach not the observance. Which goes to show how they’re full of crap.
     
    Yeah, that's how Jews managed to survive for 2k years; panmixia.

    I thought the position around here was that Jews were completely de-racinated fake Kahazar converts. Now you’re telling me they’ve maintained racial purity for 2500 years? I can’t keep up.

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    There is no consensus on the Khazar theory. Its just people picking and choosing what they see best to fit their agenda.

    And genetic studies (which are not perfected) are all over the place on the conclusions of who Jews are. Germany origins? Slavic? Khazar? Semitic? Likely mixture?

    Some angry people may disagree, but you are free to check multiple studies online and their results vary in some shape or form.

    The point is they act the same way as they did 1000 or 2000 or 3000 years ago.

    When a Jew marries to anyone they try to get most of their family to be Jewish.
    When a European or white marries with non white, some people start one-drop ruling things
    and cast them out, even if its been many generations.

    , @Truth
    Unfortunately I used up my "LOL" already.

    No, people here are (generally) much too stupid to know anything about the Khazars.
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  85. @neutral
    The depictions of bible characters were generally white, since these were mythical characters they should be treated as such. I never once mentioned not being able to talk about other famous people from other races, I am talking about who from the past matters more. If you read sites like Unz.com then you would know that is true that white people are being erased from history in the sense that they are no longer important as much as they used to be.

    If people in China are tearing down statues of Mao and replacing it with MLK, or if they are revering the poems written by Africans more than old Chinese poets then you might have point, I am however very sure that this is not happening, and this is not happening because they are not undergoing a race replacement, should hypothetically one day China is majority Indian or perhaps African, then you cannot seriously believe that this new "Chinese" population will be talking about the past Chinese as you do now.

    Well, its not really like China talks about old Chinese poets as much as concepts which are essentially Western imports, most particularly the wholesale and widespread worship of capitalism as the greatest god above all. Or the “West-loving” tendency that typified much of the urban population until fairly recently, and even so is a major driving force. Even Communism is a Western import, and there’s certainly a lot of status and state-required classes to study Karl Marx.

    As a race, we’ve already experienced very thorough cultural and epistemic defeats. Life goes on. There’s something to be said for endurance in spite of setbacks. Technically, the Chinese are pretty much a mix with at least two distinct genetic origins, but nonetheless surviving as a culture and language for 4,000+ years, not losing their own history and language and absorbing other cultures, then having it heavily influence the other countries in the east Asia region, and becoming the most populous nation in the world, and the second largest economy in the world.

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  86. polskijoe says:
    @biz
    I thought the position around here was that Jews were completely de-racinated fake Kahazar converts. Now you're telling me they've maintained racial purity for 2500 years? I can't keep up.

    There is no consensus on the Khazar theory. Its just people picking and choosing what they see best to fit their agenda.

    And genetic studies (which are not perfected) are all over the place on the conclusions of who Jews are. Germany origins? Slavic? Khazar? Semitic? Likely mixture?

    Some angry people may disagree, but you are free to check multiple studies online and their results vary in some shape or form.

    The point is they act the same way as they did 1000 or 2000 or 3000 years ago.

    When a Jew marries to anyone they try to get most of their family to be Jewish.
    When a European or white marries with non white, some people start one-drop ruling things
    and cast them out, even if its been many generations.

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  87. @attilathehen
    We are getting the cream of these Asians races. Let 's look at the countries whence they come:

    India (average IQ 82). Indians in the West need to go back to help their country.

    China (average IQ 95 - it's not 105). A totalitarian government (I don't care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing. They have too many internal problems, so the suppression of their people will get worse. The Chinese in the West have to go back to see if they can help them.

    Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Laotians - they don't even register as anything worthy. The Japanese are successful within their country and don't need to come to the West.

    It took coming to the West for these "successful Asians" to become successful. Why couldn't they do this in their own countries?

    China (average IQ 95 – it’s not 105). A totalitarian government (I don’t care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing. They have too many internal problems, so the suppression of their people will get worse. The Chinese in the West have to go back to see if they can help them.

    This would be great … if it were even remotely true.

    Yes, we don’t really know about overall Chinese IQ. (And let’s stick to the Han here, we all know there are non-Han hicks-in-the-sticks.) But reasonable guesstimates about Chinese vs. white traits:
    – Chinese a few points up in overall IQ, pretty much entirely in viso-spatial, with verbal either equal or maybe even a point or two below whites.
    – Chinese higher in “nose the grindstone” conscientiousness and compliance. (They are more “girly”–sit still and do what they are told–in personality. Do better in school relative to their IQ as a result.)
    – Whites better in creativity and thinking outside the box.

    But re China the nation–you’re entirely doing wishful thinking. Sure they’ve got all sorts of internal problems, but they are kicking ass and taking names. They’ve had the most incredible run of economic improvement of any nation in the history the world. They’ve gone from a true 3rd world peasant backwater to world economic power in a generation and are still ticking along. While export has been critical they seem to have put together the entire package across all industries to be able to continue forward with internal consumption led development as well.

    This is while the West is importing muzzies and Africans and (in our case) Mexicans. The comparion of trajectories is appalling … for us!

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    Not wishful thinking. First, the Japanese are smarter than the Chinese. They were supposed to take over the world in the 1980s. Did they?

    Second, the Chinese can print whatever they want about their economic stats. Do you believe everything you read? I have a sister who's traveled to the Far East on business trips. She was not impressed by the Chinese at all.

    Third, yes we are importing Africans and muzzies. But this is shifting. The RCC and cuck poop Frannie are behind the black/Asian/Muslim invasion of Europe. For his Christmas masses, Frannie kept yapping about accepting and integrating these peoples. In the USA, the USA RCC bishops are the ones behind the illegal invasion from Latin America. They said that these illegals would teach Caucasian RCCers how to be better RCCers. How did that work out for the RCC? The USA RCC will be pretty much gone by 2020.

    Are you involved with Asians?

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  88. Bach says:
    @AaronB

    The irony is that European heritage can never be defended based purely on race. Race should rather be an outcome of Europe’s proud heritage.

    Strong heritage –> strong race
     
    Very well said. WNs don't get this. It's why the current attempt to found nationalism on HBD, and not culture or religion, will fail.

    You cannot feel proud of your race unless it stands for a deep ethical or cultural vision. Ironically, "racism" cannot be based on genes - rather, a genetic group becomes sanctified by representing an ethical or cultural vision.

    But Western culture is so sunk in materialism it has no hope. It's stuck in orbit around the same failed ideologies.

    Incidentally, China is heading down the same path and adopting the Western culture of abstraction. In a hundred years Chinese "racism" will suffer the same collapse, unless it reverses course.I

    It’s why the current attempt to found nationalism on HBD, and not culture or religion, will fail.

    Yes, what’s important are ideas, ideals, traditions, values and the myths and stories we share.

    You cannot feel proud of your race unless it stands for a deep ethical or cultural vision.

    I think race should be like air and water — fundamentally important but unnoticed. When you prioritize the important things, like ideas and values, race falls into place naturally.

    But when you make it about race and regress to shape, form and color, then you end up here: affirmative action, quotas, political correctness, so-called social justice movements, multiculturalism and the elevation of the absurd.

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    Couldn't agree with you more. Your comments on this thread are completely stealing my thunder :)

    The focus on race comes to the fore when a people has lost its culture and is threatened with dissolution. Race is taken for granted so long as a people have strong cultural foundations.

    Materialism has destroyed the West's cultural identity. Now, the attempt is being made to found a new identity on a materialist basis.lo But no attempt is being made to escape materialism, only to work within its parameters.

    This shows that we cannot escape the gravity of our failed ideologies, and are trapped in a futile orbit around them.

    WNs seeking to emulate identity politics miss the crucial factor that the identity of minorities is seen as having a moral and cultural factor as well as a racial factor.

    But characteristically, we seek to found ours in materialism alone. We have not yet learned the lesson of our history.

    , @neutral
    You are simply taking the cowards way out of this, these arguments do not solve the realities on the ground. One way or the other you have ultimately confront the difficult questions, the liberals are acutely aware of the cuckservative talking points, and they use to all their advantage by proclaiming that any Somalian that enters Sweden/America/France/... can become Swedish/American/French/... Even if you are right and by some magic Sweden is like the Sweden of old with no white people, that is simply not Sweden anymore, regardless how well mannered the Somalians are (not likely though).

    The reason affirmative action came about in the first place is the very logic you are trying to sell, that race does not matter and that anyone can become anything they want with enough government intervention. The same with mass immigration, the people that pushed this used the standard "we are all one" arguments, these arguments come about if you believe in racial equality.
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  89. druid says:
    @Thomm
    I don't think this article is accurate. Cernovich isn't really a WN as his primary cause. He is more an ant-feminist (the much more intelligent ideology).

    WNs are, by definition, extremely unattractive to women (particularly white women). That is why the movement is 99% male, and a disproportionate share of those men are gay.

    Among the few WNs that are straight and not outright incels, there is a prominent WN in NorCal who manages to get arrested once a month for very sordid crimes (assault with a deadly weapon, having sex in public, shoplifting, etc.). The nature of these crimes indicates poor impulse control and zero long-term thinking. But his 'sex in public' offense was at least with a white woman (an ugly one at that).

    The two-year gap between otherwise-monthly arrests was only because he went to a different town :

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    https://www.google.com/search?ei=l4tSWo6eCMXojwTjsJ6YCg&q=Kevin+Crawford+Kraft+arrests&oq=Kevin+Crawford+Kraft+arrests&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39k1l2.13686.16702.0.16825.17.12.1.0.0.0.154.939.0j8.8.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..8.9.939….0.pSkp_vjpk6s

    These are the thought leaders of the WN cult of degenerates.

    Nobody else will have them!

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  90. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    A lot of negative self-stereotyping, but the author forgot one, that a lot of Asian women are calculating gold diggers who marry whites for money or green card. Top example: Wendy Deng, Rupert Murdoch’s ex-wife, 37 years his junior.

    Per Wikipedia Deng lived with a host family Jake & Joyce Cherry when she was attending Cal State Northridge. While living in their house Joyce discovered her husband was having an affair with Deng, 30 years his junior. She kicked Deng out, Jake followed and moved in with Deng, they got married then divorced 2 years later. According to Jake Cherry they were only together for a few months, then he discovered Deng was having an affair with another man, David Wolf, closer to her age. But she managed to get a green card through her marriage with Jake Cherry. He was used then discarded.

    Deng later married Rupert Murdoch, 37 years her senior, and had 2 daughters with him. They were married for 14 years. Now she’s collecting her fat alimony and child support, living the good life in NYC and doesn’t have to change his adult diaper.

    Lots of older white males like to go to China because the younger women there give them lots of attention and have no trouble marrying them, despite the 30-50 year age difference. They see these white men as their ticket out of China. Soon after marriage they’ll be urging the husbands to return to the US so they can move here, get their green card, and start moving the rest of the family over. The men do it because they get a free house maid to do the laundry, cook, clean, sometimes more children. They don’t care if they don’t connect intellectually or don’t communicate all that well with the wives, eventually they will connect with the kids. Many are on their second or third marriages and have adult white children.

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  91. whorefinder says: • Website

    Perhaps the reason is that Asian girlfriends and Asian culture are the gateway for white men to the Alt-Right/Red pill on race.

    White men are brought up in a culture that tells them they are evil and that racism is bad, mmkay. But they are also taught that minority cultures—which are defined as all non-white cultures—are oppressed and yet equal to (or superior to) white cultures. So they are supposed to “respect” other cultures, and learn about them.

    What is more, many young teenage boys are interested in self-defense/fighting for obvious hormonal reasons and the sudden shift in high school where some boys suddenly become much larger and more violent than you. The martial arts of the far east hold an allure, especially since western martial arts, such as boxing and wrestling, aren’t promoted as “mysterious” and “deep and spiritual” as eastern ones are.

    As a result, many young white men get interested in the Far East, perhaps through martial arts training. And later on, if they have an interest in non-white cultures naturally, they turn to study Far Eastern cultures. If they ever make a trip abroad at this time, they will note how Far Eastern nations are openly “racist” in favor of their own race/ethnicity, proud of their own ethnicity, and often say harmless “racist” things to foreigners that both seem truthful and yet are verboten back in America.

    Suddenly, the truth about race comes into view.

    And then there are the women. Black women are always the bottom of the barrel. White women are career oriented. Asian women, however, are usually much thinner on average and have been taught by their traditional homes about race. And Asian women, if they do stray, often get severe white-guy fever. The result is that a white guy is exposed to a household and girl who would never date a black and who herself and her family say all sorts of racist things about people, even other Asians.

    Suddenly, the truth about race comes into view.

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    The martial arts of the far east hold an allure, especially since western martial arts, such as boxing and wrestling, aren’t promoted as “mysterious” and “deep and spiritual” as eastern ones are.

    As a result, many young white men get interested in the Far East, perhaps through martial arts training.
     
    1972 called, Sport. It said to stop plagiarizing.

    The result is that a white guy is exposed to a household and girl who would never date a black
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LnCveJcWe4
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  92. AaronB says:
    @Bach

    It’s why the current attempt to found nationalism on HBD, and not culture or religion, will fail.
     
    Yes, what's important are ideas, ideals, traditions, values and the myths and stories we share.

    You cannot feel proud of your race unless it stands for a deep ethical or cultural vision.
     
    I think race should be like air and water -- fundamentally important but unnoticed. When you prioritize the important things, like ideas and values, race falls into place naturally.

    But when you make it about race and regress to shape, form and color, then you end up here: affirmative action, quotas, political correctness, so-called social justice movements, multiculturalism and the elevation of the absurd.

    Couldn’t agree with you more. Your comments on this thread are completely stealing my thunder :)

    The focus on race comes to the fore when a people has lost its culture and is threatened with dissolution. Race is taken for granted so long as a people have strong cultural foundations.

    Materialism has destroyed the West’s cultural identity. Now, the attempt is being made to found a new identity on a materialist basis.lo But no attempt is being made to escape materialism, only to work within its parameters.

    This shows that we cannot escape the gravity of our failed ideologies, and are trapped in a futile orbit around them.

    WNs seeking to emulate identity politics miss the crucial factor that the identity of minorities is seen as having a moral and cultural factor as well as a racial factor.

    But characteristically, we seek to found ours in materialism alone. We have not yet learned the lesson of our history.

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  93. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This article proofs only one thing: that the left are shallow and far more racist than the right.

    There are many reasons why conservative men are drawn to Asian women. Instead of interviewing these men and women to find the truth, the author resorts to myths and stereotypes, in the process discrediting herself and her own race. There are many smart Asians. She’s not one of them.

    These are some of the reasons I can think of:

    1. Conservative men tend to be professionals in STEM or business (quantitative fields like Accounting, Finance and Economics). Many women who major in these fields tend to be Asian. So there are simply more chances for these two groups to meet and mingle.

    2. Conservative men embrace traditional family values and Asian women are perceived to embrace these values far more than any other group, including white women who are perceived to be selfish and narcissistic.

    3. Conservative men tend to be more attracted to women who conform to more traditional view of femininity – long straight hair, fair skin tone, good skin, slender. Similarly Asian women who tend to be more conservative also prefer a more traditional view of masculinity – more alpha, taller, more muscular, takes charge, knows how to take care of the house, car, yard, fix stuff around the house, while at the same time much more romantic than Asian men who are perceived to be nerdy, effeminate, unhelpful around the house and unromantic.

    4. Most people marry within their own social class. Conservative college educated men, if they marry outside their race, tend to marry Asian women simply because Asians tend to be college educated, while conservative non-college educated men, if they marry outside their race, tend to marry hispanic or Southeast Asian(Thai, Laos, Cambodian, Filipino) women, who are also perceived to embrace traditional family values more than white or black women, but tend not to have college degrees.

    Of course, perception does not always equal reality. But our reality is often shaped by our perception.

    According to Pew research, the most stable mixed marriages are white-asian (75% white male-asian female), while the least stable (highest divorce rate) are white-black (85% black male-white female).

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    *proves*
    , @Bach

    There are many reasons why conservative men are drawn to Asian women.
     
    But she wasn't addressing "conservative" men, but white nationalists, the alt-right and white supremacists.

    As she says, "it's a confusing mix".

    However, as she goes on to explain, it's less confusing if you realize that "the stereotypes that feed the Asian-woman fetish are not exclusive to the far right. They exist across the political spectrum and infect every aspect of life".

    What's more, Asian women enable and feed off these stereotypes as well, even as these same women, like Lim, disingenuously protest.
    , @anon
    This seems to be the most rational analysis. I have seen this a lot among tech community - just plain more opportunity to interact and similar "nerd" interests. Interestingly, in STEM fields I see prominence of white "nerd" women marrying Asians too. So, this is not just unidirectional. Of course, one may overanalyze this as white females going after reliable high income earners too.
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  94. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    This article proofs only one thing: that the left are shallow and far more racist than the right.

    There are many reasons why conservative men are drawn to Asian women. Instead of interviewing these men and women to find the truth, the author resorts to myths and stereotypes, in the process discrediting herself and her own race. There are many smart Asians. She's not one of them.

    These are some of the reasons I can think of:

    1. Conservative men tend to be professionals in STEM or business (quantitative fields like Accounting, Finance and Economics). Many women who major in these fields tend to be Asian. So there are simply more chances for these two groups to meet and mingle.

    2. Conservative men embrace traditional family values and Asian women are perceived to embrace these values far more than any other group, including white women who are perceived to be selfish and narcissistic.

    3. Conservative men tend to be more attracted to women who conform to more traditional view of femininity - long straight hair, fair skin tone, good skin, slender. Similarly Asian women who tend to be more conservative also prefer a more traditional view of masculinity - more alpha, taller, more muscular, takes charge, knows how to take care of the house, car, yard, fix stuff around the house, while at the same time much more romantic than Asian men who are perceived to be nerdy, effeminate, unhelpful around the house and unromantic.

    4. Most people marry within their own social class. Conservative college educated men, if they marry outside their race, tend to marry Asian women simply because Asians tend to be college educated, while conservative non-college educated men, if they marry outside their race, tend to marry hispanic or Southeast Asian(Thai, Laos, Cambodian, Filipino) women, who are also perceived to embrace traditional family values more than white or black women, but tend not to have college degrees.

    Of course, perception does not always equal reality. But our reality is often shaped by our perception.

    According to Pew research, the most stable mixed marriages are white-asian (75% white male-asian female), while the least stable (highest divorce rate) are white-black (85% black male-white female).

    *proves*

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  95. neutral says:
    @Bach

    It’s why the current attempt to found nationalism on HBD, and not culture or religion, will fail.
     
    Yes, what's important are ideas, ideals, traditions, values and the myths and stories we share.

    You cannot feel proud of your race unless it stands for a deep ethical or cultural vision.
     
    I think race should be like air and water -- fundamentally important but unnoticed. When you prioritize the important things, like ideas and values, race falls into place naturally.

    But when you make it about race and regress to shape, form and color, then you end up here: affirmative action, quotas, political correctness, so-called social justice movements, multiculturalism and the elevation of the absurd.

    You are simply taking the cowards way out of this, these arguments do not solve the realities on the ground. One way or the other you have ultimately confront the difficult questions, the liberals are acutely aware of the cuckservative talking points, and they use to all their advantage by proclaiming that any Somalian that enters Sweden/America/France/… can become Swedish/American/French/… Even if you are right and by some magic Sweden is like the Sweden of old with no white people, that is simply not Sweden anymore, regardless how well mannered the Somalians are (not likely though).

    The reason affirmative action came about in the first place is the very logic you are trying to sell, that race does not matter and that anyone can become anything they want with enough government intervention. The same with mass immigration, the people that pushed this used the standard “we are all one” arguments, these arguments come about if you believe in racial equality.

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    You are simply taking the cowards way out of this, these arguments do not solve the realities on the ground. One way or the other you have ultimately confront the difficult questions
     
    Limit immigration severely or close the borders.

    The reason affirmative action came about in the first place is the very logic you are trying to sell, that race does not matter and that anyone can become anything they want with enough government intervention.
     
    I never said that.

    The same with mass immigration, the people that pushed this used the standard “we are all one” arguments, these arguments come about if you believe in racial equality.
     
    I didn't say race didn't matter. I didn't say we're all "one" and equally compatible.

    Culture matters. Values matter. Being able to get along is important. So make it about those qualities to the extent those qualities are important to us.

    The trouble is "those" qualities are not that important to us. We've lost our way. We don't know what we are anymore. There's not much of a "we" because we're all preoccupied with "I" or our little "tribe".

    If Neoliberalism defines our economics and Neoconservatism defines our foreign policy, what is it that defines our national culture? I'm not sure, but whatever it is, it's probably something equally poisonous and pernicious.
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  96. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Asian women are the most sought after by white males in general according to online dating sites so it should be no different for WN. They might try to fight it based on their WN philosophy, but the dick will win that fight 99 out of 100 times. And to all the white guys saying they don’t have an attraction to Asian women, beware, because once you get physically and romantically interested in a particular Asian woman you’ll develop yellow fever. It’s incurable and progresses.

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    Derbyshire is exhibit A.
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  97. Tulip says:

    This is an obvious explanation for this phenomenon which has nothing to do with politics.

    Everyone who runs a dating site knows that Asian women are the most sought after partners, across all race lines. The more Asian women on your dating site, the more $$$ your site will make.

    If WN’s represent a statistical cross-section of America, then their preferences should match the average, and skew Asian. [Also, it seems like Nazi stuff is viewed more as campy than horrifying in Asian cultures, combined with their instinctive hatred of Africans, makes things perhaps easier.]

    On the other hand, I do think it is true that the more experience one has with real cultural diversity (not the token “diversity” of the Google lunch room), the more one becomes aware of ethnicity, ethnic identity and its importance. Once a white male experiences this illumination, things tend to head in a particular direction.

    One benefit of open borders is that more and more white men won’t even have to leave the USA (or go to prison) to experience real cultural diversity.

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  98. Tulip says:

    Here is a nice root article on Asian racism:

    https://www.theroot.com/racism-in-asian-countries-and-fear-of-the-black-male-1790855705

    Note that the reason Asians hate blacks in South East Asia is because the whites working for the US military taught them to hate blacks. Pretty powerful that hateful honkeys could poison a continent.

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    Asians hate blacks in South East Asia is because the whites working for the US military taught them to hate blacks. Pretty powerful that hateful honkeys could poison a continent.
     
    I call BS on your assertion. In these cultures, and ALL Asian cultures, lighter skin is considered more beautiful. Example: Skin lightening creams for sale. This is a fact of life, and to deny it makes one not serious.

    Also, features that are less monkey-like are considered more beautiful. This is evolution in action, and northern Caucasoid features, including light colored eyes, are considered desirable, while more atavistic retrograde features are considered undesirable.

    White's didn't teach South East Asian's to hate negroes, the assertion is laughable on its face. Black behaviors are reproduced in all continents where blacks immigrate. Another laughable implication is that South East Asians cannot see things with their own eyes, or cannot think for themselves - they need whites to tell them what to think.
    , @Truth
    Now that's a GREAT article.
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  99. Thomm says:
    @WHAT
    Oh look, Shlomo trying to meme his fantasies into reality again.
    Truth is, all whites dislike muds. Not all whites are comfortable openly proclaiming their dislike. Yet.

    Truth is, all whites dislike muds. Not all whites are comfortable openly proclaiming their dislike. Yet.

    Not the better-behaved and productive ones.

    Show how little you know.

    No one is more repulsive to respectable whites than a WN wigger. The thing is, you know it, which is why you are so butthurt. We don’t want you around, and nature has designation you as waste matter to be removed from the white gene pool.

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  100. @Anonymous
    Asian women are the most sought after by white males in general according to online dating sites so it should be no different for WN. They might try to fight it based on their WN philosophy, but the dick will win that fight 99 out of 100 times. And to all the white guys saying they don’t have an attraction to Asian women, beware, because once you get physically and romantically interested in a particular Asian woman you’ll develop yellow fever. It’s incurable and progresses.

    Derbyshire is exhibit A.

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  101. Bach says:
    @Anonymous
    This article proofs only one thing: that the left are shallow and far more racist than the right.

    There are many reasons why conservative men are drawn to Asian women. Instead of interviewing these men and women to find the truth, the author resorts to myths and stereotypes, in the process discrediting herself and her own race. There are many smart Asians. She's not one of them.

    These are some of the reasons I can think of:

    1. Conservative men tend to be professionals in STEM or business (quantitative fields like Accounting, Finance and Economics). Many women who major in these fields tend to be Asian. So there are simply more chances for these two groups to meet and mingle.

    2. Conservative men embrace traditional family values and Asian women are perceived to embrace these values far more than any other group, including white women who are perceived to be selfish and narcissistic.

    3. Conservative men tend to be more attracted to women who conform to more traditional view of femininity - long straight hair, fair skin tone, good skin, slender. Similarly Asian women who tend to be more conservative also prefer a more traditional view of masculinity - more alpha, taller, more muscular, takes charge, knows how to take care of the house, car, yard, fix stuff around the house, while at the same time much more romantic than Asian men who are perceived to be nerdy, effeminate, unhelpful around the house and unromantic.

    4. Most people marry within their own social class. Conservative college educated men, if they marry outside their race, tend to marry Asian women simply because Asians tend to be college educated, while conservative non-college educated men, if they marry outside their race, tend to marry hispanic or Southeast Asian(Thai, Laos, Cambodian, Filipino) women, who are also perceived to embrace traditional family values more than white or black women, but tend not to have college degrees.

    Of course, perception does not always equal reality. But our reality is often shaped by our perception.

    According to Pew research, the most stable mixed marriages are white-asian (75% white male-asian female), while the least stable (highest divorce rate) are white-black (85% black male-white female).

    There are many reasons why conservative men are drawn to Asian women.

    But she wasn’t addressing “conservative” men, but white nationalists, the alt-right and white supremacists.

    As she says, “it’s a confusing mix”.

    However, as she goes on to explain, it’s less confusing if you realize that “the stereotypes that feed the Asian-woman fetish are not exclusive to the far right. They exist across the political spectrum and infect every aspect of life”.

    What’s more, Asian women enable and feed off these stereotypes as well, even as these same women, like Lim, disingenuously protest.

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    But she wasn’t addressing “conservative” men, but white nationalists, the alt-right and white supremacists.
     
    If anything this article proves that the term "white nationalist" is a misnomer, many of these WN are in fact not white racialist, as the term White Nationalist implies. They are simply Nationalists, as opposed to Globalists. Before 2016 Nationalism was known as Patriotism, and Nationalists were simply known as Patriots. It's time to go back to those more appropriate terms.

    WN and Alt-right are just negative terms that the left throws at anyone who wants to limit immigration before the US turns into a third world country. Many nationalists aren't even white. The left changed the term to Nationalist to imply that they are Nazis -- for not wanting to be swamped over by illegals.


    What’s more, Asian women enable and feed off these stereotypes as well, even as these same women, like Lim, disingenuously protest.
     
    Only the brain dead left could turn a compliment like "model minority" into something negative.

    FWIW I think Asian women should wear that "Nerd" label proudly. Nerd = Smart. It's why they are now the top choice among practically all groups for dating. Asian men are catching up too, since Smart implies "High Earning". I am seeing more and more white female-Asian male couples now, especially in the West coast.

    Nerd is the new black.

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  102. @AnotherDad

    China (average IQ 95 – it’s not 105). A totalitarian government (I don’t care about this since they have aborted over 400 million Chinese) that is in the process of collapsing. They have too many internal problems, so the suppression of their people will get worse. The Chinese in the West have to go back to see if they can help them.
     
    This would be great ... if it were even remotely true.

    Yes, we don't really know about overall Chinese IQ. (And let's stick to the Han here, we all know there are non-Han hicks-in-the-sticks.) But reasonable guesstimates about Chinese vs. white traits:
    -- Chinese a few points up in overall IQ, pretty much entirely in viso-spatial, with verbal either equal or maybe even a point or two below whites.
    -- Chinese higher in "nose the grindstone" conscientiousness and compliance. (They are more "girly"--sit still and do what they are told--in personality. Do better in school relative to their IQ as a result.)
    -- Whites better in creativity and thinking outside the box.

    But re China the nation--you're entirely doing wishful thinking. Sure they've got all sorts of internal problems, but they are kicking ass and taking names. They've had the most incredible run of economic improvement of any nation in the history the world. They've gone from a true 3rd world peasant backwater to world economic power in a generation and are still ticking along. While export has been critical they seem to have put together the entire package across all industries to be able to continue forward with internal consumption led development as well.

    This is while the West is importing muzzies and Africans and (in our case) Mexicans. The comparion of trajectories is appalling ... for us!

    Not wishful thinking. First, the Japanese are smarter than the Chinese. They were supposed to take over the world in the 1980s. Did they?

    Second, the Chinese can print whatever they want about their economic stats. Do you believe everything you read? I have a sister who’s traveled to the Far East on business trips. She was not impressed by the Chinese at all.

    Third, yes we are importing Africans and muzzies. But this is shifting. The RCC and cuck poop Frannie are behind the black/Asian/Muslim invasion of Europe. For his Christmas masses, Frannie kept yapping about accepting and integrating these peoples. In the USA, the USA RCC bishops are the ones behind the illegal invasion from Latin America. They said that these illegals would teach Caucasian RCCers how to be better RCCers. How did that work out for the RCC? The USA RCC will be pretty much gone by 2020.

    Are you involved with Asians?

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    Really a nice list of Sinophobic myths.

    Comparing Japan to China while not even realizing that the latter's population is 10 times larger... Jesus. You are clearly an expert.

    Japan was already a fully developed country in the 80s. If and when China reaches a similar stage of development, it will already dominate the world (and actually, much earlier than that).

    "Japan dominating the world" was always BS, that would have required a per capita GDP 2-3 times higher than the US. China has over 4 times larger population than America, its economy is already 20% larger in PPP. Japan of 1980s and today's China are not even remotely comparable.

    "China fakes statistics" is also nonsense. Look at their consumption indicators, i.e. the market size (the number of smartphones, internet users... supercomputers, etc., etc.). So if anything the actual size of the economy is larger in reality, and I'd imagine there will be UPWARDS adjustments soon (maybe by around 20-30%).

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  103. @Daniel Chieh


    BTW, with their diets changing now, mostly just to where there is plenty enough food, including the ubiquitous high-glycemic-indexed white rice, the Oriental ladies’ bodies are changing too. It may become a wash before too long.
     
    My understanding is that widespread obesity is limited only to the United States( "Two of every three American men are considered to be overweight or obese, but the rates for women are far higher" per La Wik). Even Europe still has significantly less, and it might have something to do with the quality and pricing of food.

    Hopefully the issue remains mostly isolated to the US.

    Here are obesity figures for Asia: https://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/20170622/Tech-Science/Obesity-in-Asia-reaches-epidemic-level

    You are Chinese and have a white wife and Chinese offspring. I believe you live in Canada, still a Western nation. How’s her weight doing?

    The USA is Western. You are not. If you live in the West, isolate yourself and Chinese family to China.

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    The USA is Western. You are not. If you live in the West, isolate yourself and Chinese family to China.
     
    The USA was never purely western. Native Americans are not "western". They came from Asia and arrived before the whites. Blacks have been in this country since the 1600s, Chinese since the 1800s. Wanting a white majority country and a white dominant culture is very different from wanting racial purity. What will you do with all the non-whites who are already citizens -- the jews, blacks, hispanics, asians, indians, muslims...shoot them? Much easier to just assimilate them.

    I am all for white majority. I think we should have a 30 year immigration moratorium and send packing all those who are not citizens, or hold dual citizenship, ESL, speak another language at home, send their kids to Hebrew/Chinese/Indian/Korean/Arabic/Muslim or other ethnic schools incl. on weekends, those people will never be loyal to the US. I don't think even Richard Spencer is asking for racial purity, only white majority.

    When I first read this article, the first thing I thought of was "attilathehen's head must be exploding", LOL.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    Obesity is a modern plague and indeed a problem, but still only nascent in China(where its probably worst in Asia). As per La Wik once again, Obesity in China is a major health concern according to the WHO, with overall rates of obesity below 5% in the country, but greater than 20% in some cities. Which is a major concern especially given its secondary effects on health cost, but still substantially less as a percentage.

    My wife's doing quite well, with increased weight due to pregnancy.

    As for the rest of your incorrect presumption as well as your advice, I have a policy against taking information from the ignorant and insane trolls(indeed, this reply is a waste of my time but worthwhile as it might have information for others), but I'll let you know if I ever feel like in the mood for it. Today's not the day.

    Tomorrow isn't looking good for you either.

    , @Truth
    Dang it! I used my LOL WAY to early in this thread. I might have to come back in an hour.
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  104. AaronB says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    Abstraction is one of those interesting things - both very useful but ultimately false. Alas, confusing the map with the territory appears to be typical for all.

    That’s a good way of putting it.

    It’s seductive because it really can be useful.

    You know I’m a great admirer of traditional Chinese culture, but modern China has shown me we are all vulnerable.

    But who knows, China mat surprise us yet.

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    Materialism is a heck of a drug. And part of the thing is that its ultimately rather unavoidable in the current converged state of the world - you either succumb to using guns, for example, or get killed by others who do use guns as analogy. But as you noted, it really doesn't provide all of the answers for life.

    Hopefully there will be something else yet.
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  105. Bach says:
    @neutral
    You are simply taking the cowards way out of this, these arguments do not solve the realities on the ground. One way or the other you have ultimately confront the difficult questions, the liberals are acutely aware of the cuckservative talking points, and they use to all their advantage by proclaiming that any Somalian that enters Sweden/America/France/... can become Swedish/American/French/... Even if you are right and by some magic Sweden is like the Sweden of old with no white people, that is simply not Sweden anymore, regardless how well mannered the Somalians are (not likely though).

    The reason affirmative action came about in the first place is the very logic you are trying to sell, that race does not matter and that anyone can become anything they want with enough government intervention. The same with mass immigration, the people that pushed this used the standard "we are all one" arguments, these arguments come about if you believe in racial equality.

    You are simply taking the cowards way out of this, these arguments do not solve the realities on the ground. One way or the other you have ultimately confront the difficult questions

    Limit immigration severely or close the borders.

    The reason affirmative action came about in the first place is the very logic you are trying to sell, that race does not matter and that anyone can become anything they want with enough government intervention.

    I never said that.

    The same with mass immigration, the people that pushed this used the standard “we are all one” arguments, these arguments come about if you believe in racial equality.

    I didn’t say race didn’t matter. I didn’t say we’re all “one” and equally compatible.

    Culture matters. Values matter. Being able to get along is important. So make it about those qualities to the extent those qualities are important to us.

    The trouble is “those” qualities are not that important to us. We’ve lost our way. We don’t know what we are anymore. There’s not much of a “we” because we’re all preoccupied with “I” or our little “tribe”.

    If Neoliberalism defines our economics and Neoconservatism defines our foreign policy, what is it that defines our national culture? I’m not sure, but whatever it is, it’s probably something equally poisonous and pernicious.

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  106. “the idea I wanted to run from — of Asians as civilized, advanced and highly intelligent — had roots in white supremacy.”

    Wow. Just wow.

    So when the Chinese in China or Japanese in Japan regard themselves as superior to Europeans, they are operating under white supremacy-induced False Consciousness. Whites control everything! I guess whites must really be superior, then.

    BTW the author seems to spend an awful lot of time reading dubious websites (and this wonderful one). :D

    >>“There is something about the Asian girls,” he once said to Mother Jones. “They are cute. They are smart. They have a kind of thing going on.”

    Audrea Lim is a journalist.<<

    Well I guess there are exceptions to every generalisation.

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  107. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen
    Here are obesity figures for Asia: https://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/20170622/Tech-Science/Obesity-in-Asia-reaches-epidemic-level

    You are Chinese and have a white wife and Chinese offspring. I believe you live in Canada, still a Western nation. How's her weight doing?

    The USA is Western. You are not. If you live in the West, isolate yourself and Chinese family to China.

    The USA is Western. You are not. If you live in the West, isolate yourself and Chinese family to China.

    The USA was never purely western. Native Americans are not “western”. They came from Asia and arrived before the whites. Blacks have been in this country since the 1600s, Chinese since the 1800s. Wanting a white majority country and a white dominant culture is very different from wanting racial purity. What will you do with all the non-whites who are already citizens — the jews, blacks, hispanics, asians, indians, muslims…shoot them? Much easier to just assimilate them.

    I am all for white majority. I think we should have a 30 year immigration moratorium and send packing all those who are not citizens, or hold dual citizenship, ESL, speak another language at home, send their kids to Hebrew/Chinese/Indian/Korean/Arabic/Muslim or other ethnic schools incl. on weekends, those people will never be loyal to the US. I don’t think even Richard Spencer is asking for racial purity, only white majority.

    When I first read this article, the first thing I thought of was “attilathehen’s head must be exploding”, LOL.

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    My head must be exploding! LOL!!! I don't know which "Anonymous" you are: the anti-white Turkish atheist jihadi; the white guy or the Anon-og who complimented me and said that my comments can do some real damage.

    I know the USA was not a Western nation in the European sense, but this is a European country. I know about the American Indians and Eskimos. They are small in number and not a threat. I want a majority white country. You ideas about sending dual citizens away is great. This will take care of the Jews. Next, people will be divided into 3 groups: Caucasians, Asians, blacks. Blacks will have to be segregated and marriage laws brought back barring interracial marriage. Asians will have to go back to Asia. And their marriages will need to be barred. Biology comes first, then beliefs. Most Muslims are non-white so their racial category will take care of them. Hispanics come in all races so they will be divided accordingly. IQ is best determinator. And no Jews are not the smartest tribe ever. The other things to be dealt with are the RCC and Zioevangizers. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. This is why cucks are so cucked, because of religion. The Orthodox Church will be the future of Christianity because the churches are racial/ethnic. School curricula will have to state explicitly that the Caucasian race, Christianity are superior to the Asian/black races and other belief systems. This is what pre-1965 USA schools basically believed and implicitly taught. If some Caucasians want to be with non-whites, they will live in their neighborhoods. I'm not a neo-Nazi or these crazies who blame the Jews for everything. I notice when I ask commentators who don't like Jews what we should do with and where we should put them, they never answer. These people are nuts. I support Israel because that is where the Jews belong. Neo-Nazis just use the Jews as an excuse. There is a guy, Matt Heimbach who is the leader of some national socialist group in the USA. I listened to his show and he blamed everything on the Jews. Well, he joined up with a Jew and his Jewish wife to work with them at some website called The Right Stuff. These people are nuts. The actual German Nazis said that people less than 1/8 Jewish were not Jews. I despise Derbyshire because his children could have assimilated over time, but he actually believes the Chinese are superior to the English!!! Pure degeneracy and madness. And today with international travel they will go back to Asia. Another thing I always point out is the Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. Many of these "alt-right" men are Jews married to Asians. Jews like Ben Shapiro, Milo Y, Mike Cernovich are considered alt-right. Jews cannot be alt-right. Deporting the Jews to Israel takes care of many problems. These problems can be easily solved. But it is always the RCC/Zioevangizers/Freemasons who get in the way.
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  108. @attilathehen
    Here are obesity figures for Asia: https://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/20170622/Tech-Science/Obesity-in-Asia-reaches-epidemic-level

    You are Chinese and have a white wife and Chinese offspring. I believe you live in Canada, still a Western nation. How's her weight doing?

    The USA is Western. You are not. If you live in the West, isolate yourself and Chinese family to China.

    Obesity is a modern plague and indeed a problem, but still only nascent in China(where its probably worst in Asia). As per La Wik once again, Obesity in China is a major health concern according to the WHO, with overall rates of obesity below 5% in the country, but greater than 20% in some cities. Which is a major concern especially given its secondary effects on health cost, but still substantially less as a percentage.

    My wife’s doing quite well, with increased weight due to pregnancy.

    As for the rest of your incorrect presumption as well as your advice, I have a policy against taking information from the ignorant and insane trolls(indeed, this reply is a waste of my time but worthwhile as it might have information for others), but I’ll let you know if I ever feel like in the mood for it. Today’s not the day.

    Tomorrow isn’t looking good for you either.

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    China needs you. The West doesn't.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Daniel, I want to add this since you mentioned the weight gain after pregnancy. For young women at the age they were meant to have babies (say, 16 - 28 ), it is pretty easy for them to get back slim. It's harder for the older ones.

    My observations over many years suggest that bicycling (whether outside or just on an upright exercise bike indoors) is the best way for a woman to get that rear-end in fine shape. Have you ever seen one of those spandex-wearing girls on a bike team? You will like what you see, I guarantee. If she has slanty eyes, more's the better. ;-}

    I hope you can get her to get in an exercise routing after 6 months or at least a year after the baby(s).


    PS, on China again, yeah I wan't kidding about the white rice - it's worse than potatoes as far as putting big amounts of sugar into your system quickly - not good for those with tendencies to get diabetes.
    , @Anonymous
    Outside of a few pacific islands, I'd say Malaysia is the epicenter of Asian obesity. Blame nasi kandar ...
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  109. @AaronB
    That's a good way of putting it.

    It's seductive because it really can be useful.

    You know I'm a great admirer of traditional Chinese culture, but modern China has shown me we are all vulnerable.

    But who knows, China mat surprise us yet.

    Materialism is a heck of a drug. And part of the thing is that its ultimately rather unavoidable in the current converged state of the world – you either succumb to using guns, for example, or get killed by others who do use guns as analogy. But as you noted, it really doesn’t provide all of the answers for life.

    Hopefully there will be something else yet.

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  110. Svigor says:

    Yawn… a WN party is a sausage-fest (tiny weisswursts) full of buttfuckaronis like you.

    There is no less desirable place. That is why no attractive woman (white or otherwise) is to be found within miles of a WN gathering.

    Which just goes to show how creepy and weird you are; you openly admit to being obsessed with and following around WNs, who you loathe and claim are the scum of the Earth.

    Everything about you screams “non-White” dude. Whites taking their own side in a fight just doesn’t bother White guys anywhere near as much as it bothers you. You get so wound up because it’s your ox being gored.

    That, plus your weird writing style indicate “not a White guy, or even a non-White raised in America from birth.”

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    Which just goes to show how creepy and weird you are; you openly admit to being obsessed with and following around WNs, who you loathe and claim are the scum of the Earth.
     
    You are projecting. I see WNs as vermin to be eradicated, just as one would want to eradicate rats.

    You just can't get over the fact that the other 80% of whites see you as complete trash (which you are). That is why we call you White Trashionalists. I have explained the science behind why you comprise of the genetic waste matter that the better part of the white race wants to expunge, but your IQ is too low to grasp it. That is why your grammar is worse than a third-grader's.

    Get off my lawn, faggot.
    , @Pericles
    He's the high-achieving guy on the left here.

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  111. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    This article proofs only one thing: that the left are shallow and far more racist than the right.

    There are many reasons why conservative men are drawn to Asian women. Instead of interviewing these men and women to find the truth, the author resorts to myths and stereotypes, in the process discrediting herself and her own race. There are many smart Asians. She's not one of them.

    These are some of the reasons I can think of:

    1. Conservative men tend to be professionals in STEM or business (quantitative fields like Accounting, Finance and Economics). Many women who major in these fields tend to be Asian. So there are simply more chances for these two groups to meet and mingle.

    2. Conservative men embrace traditional family values and Asian women are perceived to embrace these values far more than any other group, including white women who are perceived to be selfish and narcissistic.

    3. Conservative men tend to be more attracted to women who conform to more traditional view of femininity - long straight hair, fair skin tone, good skin, slender. Similarly Asian women who tend to be more conservative also prefer a more traditional view of masculinity - more alpha, taller, more muscular, takes charge, knows how to take care of the house, car, yard, fix stuff around the house, while at the same time much more romantic than Asian men who are perceived to be nerdy, effeminate, unhelpful around the house and unromantic.

    4. Most people marry within their own social class. Conservative college educated men, if they marry outside their race, tend to marry Asian women simply because Asians tend to be college educated, while conservative non-college educated men, if they marry outside their race, tend to marry hispanic or Southeast Asian(Thai, Laos, Cambodian, Filipino) women, who are also perceived to embrace traditional family values more than white or black women, but tend not to have college degrees.

    Of course, perception does not always equal reality. But our reality is often shaped by our perception.

    According to Pew research, the most stable mixed marriages are white-asian (75% white male-asian female), while the least stable (highest divorce rate) are white-black (85% black male-white female).

    This seems to be the most rational analysis. I have seen this a lot among tech community – just plain more opportunity to interact and similar “nerd” interests. Interestingly, in STEM fields I see prominence of white “nerd” women marrying Asians too. So, this is not just unidirectional. Of course, one may overanalyze this as white females going after reliable high income earners too.

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    One strange thing I've noticed is, white guys who marry East Asian women tend to be conservative, while white guys who marry Indian women tend to be liberal.

    From what I've seen, Indians are far more liberal than East Asians. A lot of Indian women in particular are campus SJWs and active left wing advocates.

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  112. @biz
    Craving yellowtail is really the least of the white nationalist contradiction problems.

    Worshiping Hitler, who considered Slavs sub-human, while at the same time pining for Eastern European mail-order brides is probably worse.

    Worshiping effete Confederate aristocrats like Robert E. Lee who wouldn't give their downscale ass the time of day is also pretty glaring.

    Building a movement full of German, Irish, Slavic, and Italian Americans while claiming that being "founding stock" Americans is what counts is another doozy.

    Oscillating between whether Christianity is the one true religion or a Jewish cuck plot is probably the worst.

    The Alt Right has a pan-European view of things….European founding stock…before it was demographically exterminated by Emanuel Cellar.

    The Alt Right opposes the Neo-Nazi coup in the Ukraine.

    The Alt Right prefers statues of Robert E Lee to the Kenyan Foreigner Barack Obama.

    You heard of the Sullivan Brothers?…Wright Brothers?…Or do you prefer to name US Navy Ships the USS BRAMAGUPTA?

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  113. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    There are many reasons why conservative men are drawn to Asian women.
     
    But she wasn't addressing "conservative" men, but white nationalists, the alt-right and white supremacists.

    As she says, "it's a confusing mix".

    However, as she goes on to explain, it's less confusing if you realize that "the stereotypes that feed the Asian-woman fetish are not exclusive to the far right. They exist across the political spectrum and infect every aspect of life".

    What's more, Asian women enable and feed off these stereotypes as well, even as these same women, like Lim, disingenuously protest.

    But she wasn’t addressing “conservative” men, but white nationalists, the alt-right and white supremacists.

    If anything this article proves that the term “white nationalist” is a misnomer, many of these WN are in fact not white racialist, as the term White Nationalist implies. They are simply Nationalists, as opposed to Globalists. Before 2016 Nationalism was known as Patriotism, and Nationalists were simply known as Patriots. It’s time to go back to those more appropriate terms.

    WN and Alt-right are just negative terms that the left throws at anyone who wants to limit immigration before the US turns into a third world country. Many nationalists aren’t even white. The left changed the term to Nationalist to imply that they are Nazis — for not wanting to be swamped over by illegals.

    What’s more, Asian women enable and feed off these stereotypes as well, even as these same women, like Lim, disingenuously protest.

    Only the brain dead left could turn a compliment like “model minority” into something negative.

    FWIW I think Asian women should wear that “Nerd” label proudly. Nerd = Smart. It’s why they are now the top choice among practically all groups for dating. Asian men are catching up too, since Smart implies “High Earning”. I am seeing more and more white female-Asian male couples now, especially in the West coast.

    Nerd is the new black.

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    If anything this article proves that the term “white nationalist” is a misnomer, many of these WN are in fact not white racialist, as the term White Nationalist implies. They are simply Nationalists, as opposed to Globalists.

     

    That's true. But she was raising the curiosity of white racialists and other variety of racists with a penchants for Asian women.

    WN and Alt-right are just negative terms that the left throws at anyone who wants to limit immigration before the US turns into a third world country.
     
    I agree. But among the right there are true white nationalists as well with Asian women.

    Only the brain dead left could turn a compliment like “model minority” into something negative.
     
    I agree. It seems some minorities view it as a "divide and conquer" strategy. So the feeling is that they must all be equally scorned in order to build a united front.

    However, I was speaking more directly to other stereotypes, such as hypersexuality, that Asian women also play up to while superficially protesting against.
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  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    This seems to be the most rational analysis. I have seen this a lot among tech community - just plain more opportunity to interact and similar "nerd" interests. Interestingly, in STEM fields I see prominence of white "nerd" women marrying Asians too. So, this is not just unidirectional. Of course, one may overanalyze this as white females going after reliable high income earners too.

    One strange thing I’ve noticed is, white guys who marry East Asian women tend to be conservative, while white guys who marry Indian women tend to be liberal.

    From what I’ve seen, Indians are far more liberal than East Asians. A lot of Indian women in particular are campus SJWs and active left wing advocates.

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    Maybe in America. The white guy I know who married an Indian is about as far from liberal as you can get. Sometimes I think he went Hindu for the Swastikas. >:)
    , @Truth
    Piyush "Bobby Brady" Jindal and Nicholas "pretend my name is Nikki" Haley disagree.
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  115. biz says:
    @Svigor

    Asian-Americans aren’t an unified bunch, first off.
     
    They're fairly unified in their non-Whiteness.

    The second myth is that of the subservient, hypersexual Asian woman.
     
    The reality is that Asian chicks are easy. Sexual junk food; half an hour later you're horny again.

    Why does the system of oppression end up with Asians being much richer than white people?
     
    Because Whites made it that way (yes, this is leftists' actual answer).

    Worshiping Hitler, who considered Slavs sub-human, while at the same time pining for Eastern European mail-order brides is probably worse.
     
    You're confusing natsocs with WNs, they're not the same thing.

    Worshiping effete Confederate aristocrats like Robert E. Lee who wouldn’t give their downscale ass the time of day is also pretty glaring.
     
    Noticing that Yankees are scum isn't worshiping anyone.

    Building a movement full of German, Irish, Slavic, and Italian Americans while claiming that being “founding stock” Americans is what counts is another doozy.
     
    It's called "White Nationalism," not "founding stock nationalism."

    Oscillating between whether Christianity is the one true religion or a Jewish cuck plot is probably the worst.
     
    It's not oscillating, it's two factions. I'm in neither, btw; I am more simpatico toward the Christian camp but have no sympathy for the zealots on either side; a pox on both their houses. Both will be brought to heel.

    Sexual junk food; half an hour later you’re horny again.

    That’s actually pretty funny.

    But in seriousness, what if those chix are also DTF again in half and hour? Sounds alright.

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  116. Thomm says:
    @Svigor

    Yawn… a WN party is a sausage-fest (tiny weisswursts) full of buttfuckaronis like you.

    There is no less desirable place. That is why no attractive woman (white or otherwise) is to be found within miles of a WN gathering.
     
    Which just goes to show how creepy and weird you are; you openly admit to being obsessed with and following around WNs, who you loathe and claim are the scum of the Earth.

    Everything about you screams "non-White" dude. Whites taking their own side in a fight just doesn't bother White guys anywhere near as much as it bothers you. You get so wound up because it's your ox being gored.

    That, plus your weird writing style indicate "not a White guy, or even a non-White raised in America from birth."

    Which just goes to show how creepy and weird you are; you openly admit to being obsessed with and following around WNs, who you loathe and claim are the scum of the Earth.

    You are projecting. I see WNs as vermin to be eradicated, just as one would want to eradicate rats.

    You just can’t get over the fact that the other 80% of whites see you as complete trash (which you are). That is why we call you White Trashionalists. I have explained the science behind why you comprise of the genetic waste matter that the better part of the white race wants to expunge, but your IQ is too low to grasp it. That is why your grammar is worse than a third-grader’s.

    Get off my lawn, faggot.

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    Get off my lawn, faggot.
     
    LMFAO!

    Hey Thom, I do not discount the possibility of being, wrong, maybe the white guys here are correct and you are really an Indian, and I have been duped,maybe they know better than I do, but I have seen nothing in any of your posts that screams anything other than "Middle Class White Guy."

    heh heh heh heh.

    , @Anon
    You're not an American, unless, just possibly, you're way up there on the autism spectrum. ("Domestically born"? WTF? You're not a can of tomatoes.)

    I don't know what your issues are, but I hope you work them out.
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  117. Svigor says:

    * Can we just call them Orientals to make this clearer. Asia covers a lot of ground – it is the biggest continent, you know. Oh, and if you’re gonna choogle an “Asian”, you want to choogle an Oriental … just sayin’. It’s called “yellow fever”, not “curry fever” for a reason.

    No. Oriental means eastern and refers to Arabs, Pakis, South Asians, etc, not just east Asians.

    No, higher instincts mean family, community, unity, harmony, safety, stability and amity.

    Wrong; it’s your misguided ignorance of the even higher interests all that stuff serves.

    Mine is just an exhortation towards the objectives you seek. “Racism” can never be the “way” because it has too many negative side-effects, like colonialism and aggressiveness, which then leads to where you are now: blowback, guilt, open borders and reverse-colonization.

    Anti-racism can never be the “way” because it has too many negative side-effects, like race-replacement, reverse colonialism, and millions upon millions dead in gulags or shallow graves.

    You people sound like a broken record. Find some new tunes please.

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    Anti-racism can never be the “way” because it has too many negative side-effects, like race-replacement, reverse colonialism, and millions upon millions dead in gulags or shallow graves.
     
    Anti-racism is just as artificial as racism. Both are responses to the loss of culture.

    Racism cannot be founded on racism, as a matter of psychological fact. A healthy respect for your own race depends on having a culture worth preserving. Otherwise, you're just a collection of individuals.

    Historically, when western nations lost their culture they lost their sense of respect for their own race. Historically, there are no examples of racial self respect that is not founded on culture.

    Jewish racism, which I'm sure you'd agree is paradigmatic, is founded on culture. The biological element in Jewish racism derives its justification from the cultural significance and role of the Jewish race (in their minds).

    We are trying to do something that history provides no precedent for - found white racial self respect on purely biological grounds. No group has succeeded in doing this.

    It must strike you that as whites lost their connection to culture and ideals, they lost their racial self respect. Seeking to regain racial self respect through materialism shows confusion.

    Theoretically, biological racism is group selfishness. But group selfishness is always in danger of breaking down into individual selfishness if it has no other basis.

    One kind of selfishness can always become another kind of selfishness if circumstances favor it, if selfishness is the sole consideration. Sometimes, your interests are best served as part of a group, and sometimes, as an individual. Guided only by selfishness, group solidarity cannot be maintained against the demands of individual self interest.

    Biological racism is an unstable construct, since it cannot arbitrate between competing forms of selfishness. Circumstances must dictate which form of selfishness to adopt, as there is no higher principle.

    Biological racism must always devolve into individualism.

    Group solidarity can only be maintained when a "higher" principle can make us to prefer it to our individual self interest.

    The group must itself represent a higher value than our sublimated self interest.

    Life is strange and paradoxical. It is one of its stranger ironies that racial self respect can only be founded on a sense of universal values. The British understood this when they sought to base their racial supremacy on the "white mans burden" and its universal ethical basis. They knew their empire could not be mere rape. The Romans understood this when they invented the universalist ethical concept of the "pax romana". The Jews understand this when they seek to base their supremacy on "tikkun olam" and its universal etnics. The Muslims base their supremacy on the universal ethical character of the "umma".

    And you seek to renew white racial self respect on the basis of group selfishness? We have not yet learned the lesson of the crisis of modernity.

    , @Bach

    Anti-racism can never be the “way”
     
    "Anti-racism" sounds like an ideology that chooses to ignore culture, values and beliefs because everything is amendable through right environmental reinforcements. My point is that values and beliefs (of immigrants) should not be ignored but the very thing we should examine.

    However, in order to do that, there must be something we collectively value, cherish and uphold. What is that?

    There doesn't seem to be much there there anymore except race (by the far right), multiculturalism (by the left), cheap labor and money.

    it has too many negative side-effects, like race-replacement, reverse colonialism
     
    No, because no one who cherishes family, community, heritage, history and culture would choose to import hundreds of thousands of foreigners with cultures/beliefs incompatible and detrimental to one's own.
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  118. Svigor says:

    No one is more repulsive to respectable whites than a WN wigger. The thing is, you know it, which is why you are so butthurt. We don’t want you around, and nature has designation you as waste matter to be removed from the white gene pool.

    When wog/slope says “respectable,” he means “leftist,” like himself. Those are the only people who get sooo het up over whites taking their own side in a fight: leftists, non-whites, or both.

    He doesn’t know that a lot of White men aren’t on board because none of them talk freely around him, because he’s non-white.

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    When wog/slope says “respectable,” he means “leftist,” like himself.
     
    er... moron, I am the one who is right-wing (Libertarian). Race nationalism is left-wing, and always have been.

    White Trashionalists have left-wing economic views (protectionism, high minimum wages). This is to be expected of untalented moochers. Remember that WNs really just want intra-white socialism.

    I want free markets and small governments.

    As a WN wigger, you embarrass yourself every time you open your faggotty mouth.

    Successful white people like me don't want you around. White women of any quality really don't want you around (and you know it).

    Heh heh heh heh
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  119. Svigor says:

    That’s actually pretty funny.

    But in seriousness, what if those chix are also DTF again in half and hour? Sounds alright.

    In all seriousness, it’s just a joke (with a grain of truth). It’s funny because the original joke is about Chinese food.

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  120. Svigor says:

    Oh, and I’m not even the first person to modify the original. Payback has a deplorable blond villain who quips (after beating up a Korean), “you know the problem with kicking a Chow’s ass? An hour later you wanna do it again.”

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    Payback has a deplorable blond villain who quips (after beating up a Korean), “you know the problem with kicking a Chow’s ass? An hour later you wanna do it again.” its easy to be brave didnt see you guys do shit when you were gettin beat up by mexicans during the election, slave
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  121. Svigor says:

    You are projecting. I see WNs as vermin to be eradicated, just as one would want to eradicate rats.

    Weird foreign guy; nobody crusades against rats. It’s abnormal. For whites. Meaning, again, you are either abnormal, or non-White, or both.

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  122. Svigor says:

    That is why your grammar is worse than a third-grader’s.

    Insofar as that’s true, it’s how White Americans (not ESLs) talk. You’d know that if you’d been raised here.

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    Insofar as that’s true, it’s how White Americans (not ESLs) talk. You’d know that if you’d been raised here.
     
    False. Your wigger-ebonics is not proper English.

    Thanks for proving that White Trashionalists have Negro IQs.
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  123. @Daniel Chieh
    Obesity is a modern plague and indeed a problem, but still only nascent in China(where its probably worst in Asia). As per La Wik once again, Obesity in China is a major health concern according to the WHO, with overall rates of obesity below 5% in the country, but greater than 20% in some cities. Which is a major concern especially given its secondary effects on health cost, but still substantially less as a percentage.

    My wife's doing quite well, with increased weight due to pregnancy.

    As for the rest of your incorrect presumption as well as your advice, I have a policy against taking information from the ignorant and insane trolls(indeed, this reply is a waste of my time but worthwhile as it might have information for others), but I'll let you know if I ever feel like in the mood for it. Today's not the day.

    Tomorrow isn't looking good for you either.

    China needs you. The West doesn’t.

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  124. Thomm says:
    @Svigor

    No one is more repulsive to respectable whites than a WN wigger. The thing is, you know it, which is why you are so butthurt. We don’t want you around, and nature has designation you as waste matter to be removed from the white gene pool.
     
    When wog/slope says "respectable," he means "leftist," like himself. Those are the only people who get sooo het up over whites taking their own side in a fight: leftists, non-whites, or both.

    He doesn't know that a lot of White men aren't on board because none of them talk freely around him, because he's non-white.

    When wog/slope says “respectable,” he means “leftist,” like himself.

    er… moron, I am the one who is right-wing (Libertarian). Race nationalism is left-wing, and always have been.

    White Trashionalists have left-wing economic views (protectionism, high minimum wages). This is to be expected of untalented moochers. Remember that WNs really just want intra-white socialism.

    I want free markets and small governments.

    As a WN wigger, you embarrass yourself every time you open your faggotty mouth.

    Successful white people like me don’t want you around. White women of any quality really don’t want you around (and you know it).

    Heh heh heh heh

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  125. Thomm says:
    @Svigor

    That is why your grammar is worse than a third-grader’s.
     
    Insofar as that's true, it's how White Americans (not ESLs) talk. You'd know that if you'd been raised here.

    Insofar as that’s true, it’s how White Americans (not ESLs) talk. You’d know that if you’d been raised here.

    False. Your wigger-ebonics is not proper English.

    Thanks for proving that White Trashionalists have Negro IQs.

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    ???
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  126. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @peterike
    Audrea is upset because not enough white guys have yellow fever for her. And she's from Canada living in Brooklyn. She needs to go back.

    https://www.nationalobserver.com/sites/nationalobserver.com/files/img/2016/06/02/0206-al-audrea-lim.jpg

    Sailer’s law of female journalists:

    The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking.

    Here we have a simpler scenario – desperate attention-seeking by female journalist reaching out to evil nationalist white males.

    BTW what kind of a name is “Audrea”? Parents trying to find middle ground between “Andrea” and “Audrey”?

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  127. @Anonymous

    The USA is Western. You are not. If you live in the West, isolate yourself and Chinese family to China.
     
    The USA was never purely western. Native Americans are not "western". They came from Asia and arrived before the whites. Blacks have been in this country since the 1600s, Chinese since the 1800s. Wanting a white majority country and a white dominant culture is very different from wanting racial purity. What will you do with all the non-whites who are already citizens -- the jews, blacks, hispanics, asians, indians, muslims...shoot them? Much easier to just assimilate them.

    I am all for white majority. I think we should have a 30 year immigration moratorium and send packing all those who are not citizens, or hold dual citizenship, ESL, speak another language at home, send their kids to Hebrew/Chinese/Indian/Korean/Arabic/Muslim or other ethnic schools incl. on weekends, those people will never be loyal to the US. I don't think even Richard Spencer is asking for racial purity, only white majority.

    When I first read this article, the first thing I thought of was "attilathehen's head must be exploding", LOL.

    My head must be exploding! LOL!!! I don’t know which “Anonymous” you are: the anti-white Turkish atheist jihadi; the white guy or the Anon-og who complimented me and said that my comments can do some real damage.

    I know the USA was not a Western nation in the European sense, but this is a European country. I know about the American Indians and Eskimos. They are small in number and not a threat. I want a majority white country. You ideas about sending dual citizens away is great. This will take care of the Jews. Next, people will be divided into 3 groups: Caucasians, Asians, blacks. Blacks will have to be segregated and marriage laws brought back barring interracial marriage. Asians will have to go back to Asia. And their marriages will need to be barred. Biology comes first, then beliefs. Most Muslims are non-white so their racial category will take care of them. Hispanics come in all races so they will be divided accordingly. IQ is best determinator. And no Jews are not the smartest tribe ever. The other things to be dealt with are the RCC and Zioevangizers. I left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. This is why cucks are so cucked, because of religion. The Orthodox Church will be the future of Christianity because the churches are racial/ethnic. School curricula will have to state explicitly that the Caucasian race, Christianity are superior to the Asian/black races and other belief systems. This is what pre-1965 USA schools basically believed and implicitly taught. If some Caucasians want to be with non-whites, they will live in their neighborhoods. I’m not a neo-Nazi or these crazies who blame the Jews for everything. I notice when I ask commentators who don’t like Jews what we should do with and where we should put them, they never answer. These people are nuts. I support Israel because that is where the Jews belong. Neo-Nazis just use the Jews as an excuse. There is a guy, Matt Heimbach who is the leader of some national socialist group in the USA. I listened to his show and he blamed everything on the Jews. Well, he joined up with a Jew and his Jewish wife to work with them at some website called The Right Stuff. These people are nuts. The actual German Nazis said that people less than 1/8 Jewish were not Jews. I despise Derbyshire because his children could have assimilated over time, but he actually believes the Chinese are superior to the English!!! Pure degeneracy and madness. And today with international travel they will go back to Asia. Another thing I always point out is the Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. Many of these “alt-right” men are Jews married to Asians. Jews like Ben Shapiro, Milo Y, Mike Cernovich are considered alt-right. Jews cannot be alt-right. Deporting the Jews to Israel takes care of many problems. These problems can be easily solved. But it is always the RCC/Zioevangizers/Freemasons who get in the way.

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    I despise Derbyshire because his children could have assimilated over time, but he actually believes the Chinese are superior to the English!!!
     
    Got a link?
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  128. @Anonymous
    One strange thing I've noticed is, white guys who marry East Asian women tend to be conservative, while white guys who marry Indian women tend to be liberal.

    From what I've seen, Indians are far more liberal than East Asians. A lot of Indian women in particular are campus SJWs and active left wing advocates.

    Maybe in America. The white guy I know who married an Indian is about as far from liberal as you can get. Sometimes I think he went Hindu for the Swastikas. >:)

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  129. eah says:

    The Alt-Right is about ideas — a political philosophy — it has nothing to do with Asia or Asians (except for preventing them from coming to our countries in large numbers) — or fetishes for that matter — perhaps some alt-right personalities have or had relationships with Asian women — if so it means nothing.

    This is just childish bullshit from the NYT.

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  130. @Bach

    We were getting an even creamier (not talking skin color) cream-o-the-crop bunch of Orientals* back in the past. It was very hard for anyone from mainland China to get over here to stay until sometime in the 1990′s.
     
    I don't have stats so I'm just speaking from memory and experience.

    Yes, at some point, maybe the 90s, more educated/wealthier Asians began to arrive. But before that, they were more or less the dregs. Yet, they succeeded and their children went on to elite schools, too.

    ***** First of all, let me apologize for not replying sooner – I didn’t have enough time to write a thing on here yesterday *****

    I am more familiar with the Chinese situation in particular, Mr. Bach. They are a majority, at this point of all the Orientals in our country, maybe by a pretty big margin too.

    I know there were lots of Vietnamese people who were real refugees who came from the mid-’70′s through about the early ’80′s. They were from all levels of society – when the Commies came into Saigon, it was best to get the hell out, and you could say we owed them, some at least.

    Japanese here are not so many, and most that came for setting up US domestic plants for autos (mostly) were I’m sure on the high side of intelligence – lots of engineers.

    Koreans are also not very many in the big scheme of things, and, possible with the exception of some war orphans/refugees way back in the ’50′s they are also the cream of the crop.

    I will agree that almost all groups of Orientals have done well, with the exception of the Hmong from Laos (or is it Cambodia?) who just don’t fit in to the modern world some of the time (see VDare, as usual)

    BTW, I don’t consider the wealthier Chinese necessarily the better ones. It used to be that one had to be a top-notch (for China, at the time) engineer or scientist to come here. Now, the spoiled Chinese kids sent here to get a college degree, and the ones here to launder the filthy money obtained via their $600/month government job in China by buying $2,000,000 houses in Seattle are NOT the most hard-working and are often a detriment (some of the kids will become Cultural Revolution 2.0 SJW’s, the way it looks).

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    All I can say is that my Korean family came in the 70s and we were dirt poor and uneducated. Same for my extended family, friends of family and other Asian kids I grew up with. We all came from poor and uneducated backgrounds.

    Look around the community and almost everyone seemed to be some variant of the village bumpkin.

    In those days, if you were wealthy and educated, you stayed in the motherland.

    None of us were cream of the crop of anything.
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  131. @Daniel Chieh


    BTW, with their diets changing now, mostly just to where there is plenty enough food, including the ubiquitous high-glycemic-indexed white rice, the Oriental ladies’ bodies are changing too. It may become a wash before too long.
     
    My understanding is that widespread obesity is limited only to the United States( "Two of every three American men are considered to be overweight or obese, but the rates for women are far higher" per La Wik). Even Europe still has significantly less, and it might have something to do with the quality and pricing of food.

    Hopefully the issue remains mostly isolated to the US.

    ***** First of all, let me apologize for not replying sooner – I didn’t have enough time to write a thing on here yesterday *****

    I am sure you are right on the obesity numbers, as USA is NUMBER 1! Ha, but really the number of truly obese people must be under 5 % or so, but that is enough to really be noticed vs. maybe .01% even in the ’70′s. (Yes, I am pulling numbers out of my ass, but I get fairly good estimates that way.)

    However, Daniel, my experience in China, and in place in the US with lots of Chinese, is that the number of Oriental girls who are 10-20 lb overweight is very significant. I don’t think it was like that even 20 years back, with good reasons, no all-you-want-to-eat diets and lots of exercise still part of daily life (in China, at least).

    Now, I don’t maintain that 10-20 lb over slim is any kind of health problem. However, and this is for the women readers, you need to one day look at the truth in they eye. Men like the curves that women have – these curves are obscured by extra fat – that’s all there is to it. You can deny the truth all you want, but if you get your body to the shape in which those curves stand out to show what your body was made for, you will get all the admiring glances and other stuff that you want. I don’t care that “men shouldn’t care about that”. They do anyway. IT’S! NOT! NICE! TO! FOOL! MOTHER! NATURE!

    Sorry, Mr. Chieh, I hijacked my own reply.

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  132. @Daniel Chieh
    Obesity is a modern plague and indeed a problem, but still only nascent in China(where its probably worst in Asia). As per La Wik once again, Obesity in China is a major health concern according to the WHO, with overall rates of obesity below 5% in the country, but greater than 20% in some cities. Which is a major concern especially given its secondary effects on health cost, but still substantially less as a percentage.

    My wife's doing quite well, with increased weight due to pregnancy.

    As for the rest of your incorrect presumption as well as your advice, I have a policy against taking information from the ignorant and insane trolls(indeed, this reply is a waste of my time but worthwhile as it might have information for others), but I'll let you know if I ever feel like in the mood for it. Today's not the day.

    Tomorrow isn't looking good for you either.

    Daniel, I want to add this since you mentioned the weight gain after pregnancy. For young women at the age they were meant to have babies (say, 16 – 28 ), it is pretty easy for them to get back slim. It’s harder for the older ones.

    My observations over many years suggest that bicycling (whether outside or just on an upright exercise bike indoors) is the best way for a woman to get that rear-end in fine shape. Have you ever seen one of those spandex-wearing girls on a bike team? You will like what you see, I guarantee. If she has slanty eyes, more’s the better. ;-}

    I hope you can get her to get in an exercise routing after 6 months or at least a year after the baby(s).

    PS, on China again, yeah I wan’t kidding about the white rice – it’s worse than potatoes as far as putting big amounts of sugar into your system quickly – not good for those with tendencies to get diabetes.

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    Oh, I should have been more clear. She's gained weight since she's actually pregnant at this moment, so its pretty expected. I don't doubt she'll lose it fairly quickly after giving birth - slightly concerned if anything to make sure she remains a healthy weight. She's had issues with anorexia in the past. She's pretty young.

    She's French and never really had a rear-end, though. She always told me that she thought it was embarrassing for a white girl to have a butt, heh.

    And yes, white rice is not ideal. Various prosperity related illnesses including obesity are definitely a problem for China, such as escalating high blood pressure. Its something that I see the government trying to make some efforts to tackle - its going to be a pain with the culture of food and associations of status with weight, though.
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  133. @Bach

    Lots of Western men like the Oriental women because they have been better at keeping their bodies in shape, especially the rear-end portions
     
    The Western male's infatuation with Asian women goes far beyond physique because physique is probably among the least of their assets. Most Western men would choose lithe Latinas in spades.

    It's obviously a combination of things, including culture, intelligence, family values, work ethics, and what they represent as well: Asia -- the new century.

    Still, as I said, it's a desperate move by desperate men. Asian women cannot save Western civilization but precipitate its downfall by giving it false hope.

    Again, I respectfully don’t agree, Mr. Bach. I think the Orientals have great physiques, but I have been called an ass-man many times. (Just the other day … in the middle of an intersection … “Hey, you’re an ass, man!”). Seriously, in a long-term relationship, also, the Orientals have an advantage in Westerners’ minds, because the western women have been so brainwashed with the feminist bullshit. It ruins what could have been otherwise good relationships.

    I say “in Westerners’ minds” because I do agree with some other commenters that you may not get what you think you are getting in this respect. There is still this longstanding reputation, still partially true, that the Oriental women are more subservient, and just act like females.

    That brings up the Latinas, as you did. Unz readers may be familiar with Fred Reed and his new-found Mexicanity. I disagree with him on much, but can’t argue when he writes about the women’s womenly attitude down there – yeah, they like to be women – what a refreshing change from most of them in America, I must say. However, here’s my problem. Have you seen even 10% of Latina women whose rear has not blown up beyond reasonable standards upon reaching 18 y/o… occasionally this my be pushed beyond 25. I don’t want that.

    Still, as I said, it’s a desperate move by desperate men.

    I’ll give you desperation, Mr. Bach, and that is a guy who has kids with an American women who has turned into a un-sexy, bitchy feminist schrew who can take his kids away at a moment’s notice if he doesn’t do and buy what she wants. It’s not just the 20 years of his labor in the form of the house and other assets. The worse part is that his own flesh and blood can be forced upon her will via family court to make him a part-time parent that will undeservedly take the blame for the way his broken-home, formerly great kids grow up. It’s a wonder more family court judges aren’t shot.

    What do you say to that, Mr. Bach. You may be mistaking desperation for wisdom in the case of these alt-right guys … and hornyness, of course …

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    You may be mistaking desperation for wisdom in the case of these alt-right guys
     
    It's de facto desperation because their cause is the salvation of white Western civilization or some simulacrum of that and Asian women are viewed as a countermeasure to the rising tide of all that ails Western culture. But while they bask in the coos and warm embrace of foreign women, Rome falls.

    The metaphor applies most poignantly to racialist white men but it is also relevant to Western men generally as well who seek out foreign women in order to escape the perceived calamity of the West.
    , @Anonymous

    I’ll give you desperation, Mr. Bach, and that is a guy who has kids with an American women who has turned into a un-sexy, bitchy feminist schrew who can take his kids away at a moment’s notice if he doesn’t do and buy what she wants
     
    You're absolutely right. No woman should ever have that much power, and no sane man should raise kids in an environment in which they do.

    When I explained to an Asian man in Asia that courts can take the children away, bar you from seeing them ever again, AND put you in prison if you don't keep up monthly payments based on imputed income, he couldn't understand how such a travesty could ever come into force.
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  134. Bach says:
    @Anonymous

    But she wasn’t addressing “conservative” men, but white nationalists, the alt-right and white supremacists.
     
    If anything this article proves that the term "white nationalist" is a misnomer, many of these WN are in fact not white racialist, as the term White Nationalist implies. They are simply Nationalists, as opposed to Globalists. Before 2016 Nationalism was known as Patriotism, and Nationalists were simply known as Patriots. It's time to go back to those more appropriate terms.

    WN and Alt-right are just negative terms that the left throws at anyone who wants to limit immigration before the US turns into a third world country. Many nationalists aren't even white. The left changed the term to Nationalist to imply that they are Nazis -- for not wanting to be swamped over by illegals.


    What’s more, Asian women enable and feed off these stereotypes as well, even as these same women, like Lim, disingenuously protest.
     
    Only the brain dead left could turn a compliment like "model minority" into something negative.

    FWIW I think Asian women should wear that "Nerd" label proudly. Nerd = Smart. It's why they are now the top choice among practically all groups for dating. Asian men are catching up too, since Smart implies "High Earning". I am seeing more and more white female-Asian male couples now, especially in the West coast.

    Nerd is the new black.

    If anything this article proves that the term “white nationalist” is a misnomer, many of these WN are in fact not white racialist, as the term White Nationalist implies. They are simply Nationalists, as opposed to Globalists.

    That’s true. But she was raising the curiosity of white racialists and other variety of racists with a penchants for Asian women.

    WN and Alt-right are just negative terms that the left throws at anyone who wants to limit immigration before the US turns into a third world country.

    I agree. But among the right there are true white nationalists as well with Asian women.

    Only the brain dead left could turn a compliment like “model minority” into something negative.

    I agree. It seems some minorities view it as a “divide and conquer” strategy. So the feeling is that they must all be equally scorned in order to build a united front.

    However, I was speaking more directly to other stereotypes, such as hypersexuality, that Asian women also play up to while superficially protesting against.

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    However, I was speaking more directly to other stereotypes, such as hypersexuality, that Asian women also play up to while superficially protesting against.
     
    The stereotype probably comes from the fact that there are countries in Asia like Thailand and Philippines that are famous for sex tourism. No other continent has countries with such reputation, although the Eastern Europeans are catching up. It also doesn't help when Asian actresses like Sandra Oh plays into that stereotype in Grey's Anatomy and that horrid movie Sideways.

    I think the Asian women who play up this stereotype are doing it out of insecurity. They probably feel like that is the only way they could out hot the white girls to get guys' attention, and are too immature to realize that kind of behavior will only draw the wrong kind of attention. They were also egged on by our rotten pop culture with shows like Sex and the City which promoted promiscuity as feminism, and thought that that was the only way to gain acceptance into a white dominant culture...by acting more like white women. What they didn't get was most white women do not act that way.

    Perhaps the one good thing that could come out of this latest PC/feminist wave is that young people will no longer feel like they need to party hard or do what they don't really want to do to gain acceptance, whether by the opposite sex or by their peers. In fact there are signs this is already happening. The Gen Z who are currently in middle school and high school might be the most conservative generation since the 1950s. The implosion of Harveywood will hopefully bring an end to the rotten excesses of the past 5 decades.

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  135. AaronB says:
    @Svigor

    * Can we just call them Orientals to make this clearer. Asia covers a lot of ground – it is the biggest continent, you know. Oh, and if you’re gonna choogle an “Asian”, you want to choogle an Oriental … just sayin’. It’s called “yellow fever”, not “curry fever” for a reason.
     
    No. Oriental means eastern and refers to Arabs, Pakis, South Asians, etc, not just east Asians.

    No, higher instincts mean family, community, unity, harmony, safety, stability and amity.
     
    Wrong; it's your misguided ignorance of the even higher interests all that stuff serves.

    Mine is just an exhortation towards the objectives you seek. “Racism” can never be the “way” because it has too many negative side-effects, like colonialism and aggressiveness, which then leads to where you are now: blowback, guilt, open borders and reverse-colonization.
     
    Anti-racism can never be the "way" because it has too many negative side-effects, like race-replacement, reverse colonialism, and millions upon millions dead in gulags or shallow graves.

    You people sound like a broken record. Find some new tunes please.

    Anti-racism can never be the “way” because it has too many negative side-effects, like race-replacement, reverse colonialism, and millions upon millions dead in gulags or shallow graves.

    Anti-racism is just as artificial as racism. Both are responses to the loss of culture.

    Racism cannot be founded on racism, as a matter of psychological fact. A healthy respect for your own race depends on having a culture worth preserving. Otherwise, you’re just a collection of individuals.

    Historically, when western nations lost their culture they lost their sense of respect for their own race. Historically, there are no examples of racial self respect that is not founded on culture.

    Jewish racism, which I’m sure you’d agree is paradigmatic, is founded on culture. The biological element in Jewish racism derives its justification from the cultural significance and role of the Jewish race (in their minds).

    We are trying to do something that history provides no precedent for – found white racial self respect on purely biological grounds. No group has succeeded in doing this.

    It must strike you that as whites lost their connection to culture and ideals, they lost their racial self respect. Seeking to regain racial self respect through materialism shows confusion.

    Theoretically, biological racism is group selfishness. But group selfishness is always in danger of breaking down into individual selfishness if it has no other basis.

    One kind of selfishness can always become another kind of selfishness if circumstances favor it, if selfishness is the sole consideration. Sometimes, your interests are best served as part of a group, and sometimes, as an individual. Guided only by selfishness, group solidarity cannot be maintained against the demands of individual self interest.

    Biological racism is an unstable construct, since it cannot arbitrate between competing forms of selfishness. Circumstances must dictate which form of selfishness to adopt, as there is no higher principle.

    Biological racism must always devolve into individualism.

    Group solidarity can only be maintained when a “higher” principle can make us to prefer it to our individual self interest.

    The group must itself represent a higher value than our sublimated self interest.

    Life is strange and paradoxical. It is one of its stranger ironies that racial self respect can only be founded on a sense of universal values. The British understood this when they sought to base their racial supremacy on the “white mans burden” and its universal ethical basis. They knew their empire could not be mere rape. The Romans understood this when they invented the universalist ethical concept of the “pax romana”. The Jews understand this when they seek to base their supremacy on “tikkun olam” and its universal etnics. The Muslims base their supremacy on the universal ethical character of the “umma”.

    And you seek to renew white racial self respect on the basis of group selfishness? We have not yet learned the lesson of the crisis of modernity.

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    One kind of selfishness can always become another kind of selfishness if circumstances favor it, if selfishness is the sole consideration. Sometimes, your interests are best served as part of a group, and sometimes, as an individual.
     
    This is one of the best explorations of negative externalities I've often talked about in adopting certain mindsets. The willingness to embrace nepotism eventually corrodes into other forms of corruption.

    Its something that they will come to discover for themselves, though. Show, not tell is not merely a literary device.
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  136. Bach says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    ***** First of all, let me apologize for not replying sooner - I didn't have enough time to write a thing on here yesterday *****

    I am more familiar with the Chinese situation in particular, Mr. Bach. They are a majority, at this point of all the Orientals in our country, maybe by a pretty big margin too.

    I know there were lots of Vietnamese people who were real refugees who came from the mid-'70's through about the early '80's. They were from all levels of society - when the Commies came into Saigon, it was best to get the hell out, and you could say we owed them, some at least.

    Japanese here are not so many, and most that came for setting up US domestic plants for autos (mostly) were I'm sure on the high side of intelligence - lots of engineers.

    Koreans are also not very many in the big scheme of things, and, possible with the exception of some war orphans/refugees way back in the '50's they are also the cream of the crop.

    I will agree that almost all groups of Orientals have done well, with the exception of the Hmong from Laos (or is it Cambodia?) who just don't fit in to the modern world some of the time (see VDare, as usual)

    BTW, I don't consider the wealthier Chinese necessarily the better ones. It used to be that one had to be a top-notch (for China, at the time) engineer or scientist to come here. Now, the spoiled Chinese kids sent here to get a college degree, and the ones here to launder the filthy money obtained via their $600/month government job in China by buying $2,000,000 houses in Seattle are NOT the most hard-working and are often a detriment (some of the kids will become Cultural Revolution 2.0 SJW's, the way it looks).

    All I can say is that my Korean family came in the 70s and we were dirt poor and uneducated. Same for my extended family, friends of family and other Asian kids I grew up with. We all came from poor and uneducated backgrounds.

    Look around the community and almost everyone seemed to be some variant of the village bumpkin.

    In those days, if you were wealthy and educated, you stayed in the motherland.

    None of us were cream of the crop of anything.

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  137. Pericles says:
    @Thomm

    White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do.
     
    Of course we do. Go to any 95% white gathering (say, an Oktoberfest or white frat party at a Big-10) and say WN things. You will get slammed (only verbally, if you are lucky) in short order.

    It is not that we even like blacks or Hispanics, but that WN wiggers are a shame that we wish to eradicate (you are genetic waste matter that is generated in the production of impressive white people (the other 80%), as I explained before).

    White Trashionalism is just another form of feminism, supported by incels like you. See here :

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/04/white-nationalism-is-a-goddess-cult/
    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/11/white-nationalists-want-white-women-to-trap-white-women-with-oops-pregnancies/

    Lol, this high-achieving guy is too much!

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  138. Pericles says:
    @Thomm

    That’s not what you do. You go looking for WN parties to crash. Because it bunches your panties up.
     
    Yawn... a WN party is a sausage-fest (tiny weisswursts) full of buttfuckaronis like you.

    There is no less desirable place. That is why no attractive woman (white or otherwise) is to be found within miles of a WN gathering.

    Yawn… a WN party is a sausage-fest (tiny weisswursts) full of buttfuckaronis like you.

    Whoops, your high-achieving self-hatred is showing.

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  139. Bach says:
    @Svigor

    * Can we just call them Orientals to make this clearer. Asia covers a lot of ground – it is the biggest continent, you know. Oh, and if you’re gonna choogle an “Asian”, you want to choogle an Oriental … just sayin’. It’s called “yellow fever”, not “curry fever” for a reason.
     
    No. Oriental means eastern and refers to Arabs, Pakis, South Asians, etc, not just east Asians.

    No, higher instincts mean family, community, unity, harmony, safety, stability and amity.
     
    Wrong; it's your misguided ignorance of the even higher interests all that stuff serves.

    Mine is just an exhortation towards the objectives you seek. “Racism” can never be the “way” because it has too many negative side-effects, like colonialism and aggressiveness, which then leads to where you are now: blowback, guilt, open borders and reverse-colonization.
     
    Anti-racism can never be the "way" because it has too many negative side-effects, like race-replacement, reverse colonialism, and millions upon millions dead in gulags or shallow graves.

    You people sound like a broken record. Find some new tunes please.

    Anti-racism can never be the “way”

    “Anti-racism” sounds like an ideology that chooses to ignore culture, values and beliefs because everything is amendable through right environmental reinforcements. My point is that values and beliefs (of immigrants) should not be ignored but the very thing we should examine.

    However, in order to do that, there must be something we collectively value, cherish and uphold. What is that?

    There doesn’t seem to be much there there anymore except race (by the far right), multiculturalism (by the left), cheap labor and money.

    it has too many negative side-effects, like race-replacement, reverse colonialism

    No, because no one who cherishes family, community, heritage, history and culture would choose to import hundreds of thousands of foreigners with cultures/beliefs incompatible and detrimental to one’s own.

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  140. @Achmed E. Newman
    Daniel, I want to add this since you mentioned the weight gain after pregnancy. For young women at the age they were meant to have babies (say, 16 - 28 ), it is pretty easy for them to get back slim. It's harder for the older ones.

    My observations over many years suggest that bicycling (whether outside or just on an upright exercise bike indoors) is the best way for a woman to get that rear-end in fine shape. Have you ever seen one of those spandex-wearing girls on a bike team? You will like what you see, I guarantee. If she has slanty eyes, more's the better. ;-}

    I hope you can get her to get in an exercise routing after 6 months or at least a year after the baby(s).


    PS, on China again, yeah I wan't kidding about the white rice - it's worse than potatoes as far as putting big amounts of sugar into your system quickly - not good for those with tendencies to get diabetes.

    Oh, I should have been more clear. She’s gained weight since she’s actually pregnant at this moment, so its pretty expected. I don’t doubt she’ll lose it fairly quickly after giving birth – slightly concerned if anything to make sure she remains a healthy weight. She’s had issues with anorexia in the past. She’s pretty young.

    She’s French and never really had a rear-end, though. She always told me that she thought it was embarrassing for a white girl to have a butt, heh.

    And yes, white rice is not ideal. Various prosperity related illnesses including obesity are definitely a problem for China, such as escalating high blood pressure. Its something that I see the government trying to make some efforts to tackle – its going to be a pain with the culture of food and associations of status with weight, though.

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  141. @attilathehen
    (((Mike Cernevich))) - yes, he's Jewish - is married to an Iranian Muslim woman. Nothing kosher here.

    John Derbyshire (WASP) married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites. He is not a white nationalist. https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/ I don't why he bothers with his scribblings.

    Jeff Session has daughter who married a Korean and has Korean offspring. This is why he is so cucked about race.

    This "alt right" fetish with Asians (which is a minor occurence) will end shortly. Asians are inferior to Caucasians.

    “Asians are inferior to Caucasians”.The mighty EDAR gene and big brains is what makes asians superior across the board google Edar and its powers inferior woman.I have always known white nationalists had a thing for asian women, run across these scum all the time especially the little brained british american who are mostly married to unfortunate poor naive asian prostitoots.

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  142. @Hannah Katz
    I just wish the Chinese women would stop stealing our Jewish men!

    I wish those gold digging women would too, no EDAR gene for you people so called gods people.

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  143. Pericles says:
    @Svigor

    Yawn… a WN party is a sausage-fest (tiny weisswursts) full of buttfuckaronis like you.

    There is no less desirable place. That is why no attractive woman (white or otherwise) is to be found within miles of a WN gathering.
     
    Which just goes to show how creepy and weird you are; you openly admit to being obsessed with and following around WNs, who you loathe and claim are the scum of the Earth.

    Everything about you screams "non-White" dude. Whites taking their own side in a fight just doesn't bother White guys anywhere near as much as it bothers you. You get so wound up because it's your ox being gored.

    That, plus your weird writing style indicate "not a White guy, or even a non-White raised in America from birth."

    He’s the high-achieving guy on the left here.

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  144. Bach says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Again, I respectfully don't agree, Mr. Bach. I think the Orientals have great physiques, but I have been called an ass-man many times. (Just the other day ... in the middle of an intersection ... "Hey, you're an ass, man!"). Seriously, in a long-term relationship, also, the Orientals have an advantage in Westerners' minds, because the western women have been so brainwashed with the feminist bullshit. It ruins what could have been otherwise good relationships.

    I say "in Westerners' minds" because I do agree with some other commenters that you may not get what you think you are getting in this respect. There is still this longstanding reputation, still partially true, that the Oriental women are more subservient, and just act like females.

    That brings up the Latinas, as you did. Unz readers may be familiar with Fred Reed and his new-found Mexicanity. I disagree with him on much, but can't argue when he writes about the women's womenly attitude down there - yeah, they like to be women - what a refreshing change from most of them in America, I must say. However, here's my problem. Have you seen even 10% of Latina women whose rear has not blown up beyond reasonable standards upon reaching 18 y/o... occasionally this my be pushed beyond 25. I don't want that.


    Still, as I said, it’s a desperate move by desperate men.
     
    I'll give you desperation, Mr. Bach, and that is a guy who has kids with an American women who has turned into a un-sexy, bitchy feminist schrew who can take his kids away at a moment's notice if he doesn't do and buy what she wants. It's not just the 20 years of his labor in the form of the house and other assets. The worse part is that his own flesh and blood can be forced upon her will via family court to make him a part-time parent that will undeservedly take the blame for the way his broken-home, formerly great kids grow up. It's a wonder more family court judges aren't shot.

    What do you say to that, Mr. Bach. You may be mistaking desperation for wisdom in the case of these alt-right guys ... and hornyness, of course ...

    You may be mistaking desperation for wisdom in the case of these alt-right guys

    It’s de facto desperation because their cause is the salvation of white Western civilization or some simulacrum of that and Asian women are viewed as a countermeasure to the rising tide of all that ails Western culture. But while they bask in the coos and warm embrace of foreign women, Rome falls.

    The metaphor applies most poignantly to racialist white men but it is also relevant to Western men generally as well who seek out foreign women in order to escape the perceived calamity of the West.

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    The metaphor applies most poignantly to racialist white men but it is also relevant to Western men generally as well who seek out foreign women in order to escape the perceived calamity of the West.
     
    The reality is an overwhelming majority of white men still marry white women, especially in the Red states. Mixed marriages are only occurring in larger numbers in the coastal blue states. And even there, white-white marriages still predominate.

    As Steve Sailer pointed out a couple of years ago, outmarriage rates have actually gone down for both Asians and hispanics as both groups continue to rise in number due to high immigration. These groups now have more choices to stay in-group.

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  145. @attilathehen
    Which Asians? The only Asians that have ever done well are the Japanese. Vietnam, Cambodia, China were dealing with the effects of Communism. The Philippines has an average IQ of 84. Indonesia has low IQ peoples. Hong Kong and Singapore are small nations.

    filipinos for a so called small iq people earn even more than indians as a gruop , most filipinos own their own homes , dont do opiods ,dont do much crime, are not on welfare this is more than i can say about basque british americans.

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    Average IQ of the Philippines is 86. We need these Filipinos to go back and make the Philippines great again. Duterte is fighting Muslims and drug dealers. He needs these slightly smarter Filipinos to help him. Basques, Brits are my kinspeople. Filipinos are not.
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  146. @AaronB

    Anti-racism can never be the “way” because it has too many negative side-effects, like race-replacement, reverse colonialism, and millions upon millions dead in gulags or shallow graves.
     
    Anti-racism is just as artificial as racism. Both are responses to the loss of culture.

    Racism cannot be founded on racism, as a matter of psychological fact. A healthy respect for your own race depends on having a culture worth preserving. Otherwise, you're just a collection of individuals.

    Historically, when western nations lost their culture they lost their sense of respect for their own race. Historically, there are no examples of racial self respect that is not founded on culture.

    Jewish racism, which I'm sure you'd agree is paradigmatic, is founded on culture. The biological element in Jewish racism derives its justification from the cultural significance and role of the Jewish race (in their minds).

    We are trying to do something that history provides no precedent for - found white racial self respect on purely biological grounds. No group has succeeded in doing this.

    It must strike you that as whites lost their connection to culture and ideals, they lost their racial self respect. Seeking to regain racial self respect through materialism shows confusion.

    Theoretically, biological racism is group selfishness. But group selfishness is always in danger of breaking down into individual selfishness if it has no other basis.

    One kind of selfishness can always become another kind of selfishness if circumstances favor it, if selfishness is the sole consideration. Sometimes, your interests are best served as part of a group, and sometimes, as an individual. Guided only by selfishness, group solidarity cannot be maintained against the demands of individual self interest.

    Biological racism is an unstable construct, since it cannot arbitrate between competing forms of selfishness. Circumstances must dictate which form of selfishness to adopt, as there is no higher principle.

    Biological racism must always devolve into individualism.

    Group solidarity can only be maintained when a "higher" principle can make us to prefer it to our individual self interest.

    The group must itself represent a higher value than our sublimated self interest.

    Life is strange and paradoxical. It is one of its stranger ironies that racial self respect can only be founded on a sense of universal values. The British understood this when they sought to base their racial supremacy on the "white mans burden" and its universal ethical basis. They knew their empire could not be mere rape. The Romans understood this when they invented the universalist ethical concept of the "pax romana". The Jews understand this when they seek to base their supremacy on "tikkun olam" and its universal etnics. The Muslims base their supremacy on the universal ethical character of the "umma".

    And you seek to renew white racial self respect on the basis of group selfishness? We have not yet learned the lesson of the crisis of modernity.

    One kind of selfishness can always become another kind of selfishness if circumstances favor it, if selfishness is the sole consideration. Sometimes, your interests are best served as part of a group, and sometimes, as an individual.

    This is one of the best explorations of negative externalities I’ve often talked about in adopting certain mindsets. The willingness to embrace nepotism eventually corrodes into other forms of corruption.

    Its something that they will come to discover for themselves, though. Show, not tell is not merely a literary device.

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    Thanks, Daniel.

    Yes, theory is fine, but reality provides the best lessons.

    I'm just worried there's no fresh thinking in the West. It's just buzzards circling the same carcass of materialism.
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  147. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen
    I struck at you again. You're an East Indian Hindu, of lower caste. Speculating about commentators lives is ridiculous unless you know something about them. When I ask commentators if they are Jewish and/or mixed up with Asians this is to discern why they think are white nationalists.

    You're projecting. You're dark-skinned, unacceptable in the West. As a Caucasian Christian woman I am superior to you and that bothers you. Your constant "heh heh" cackling at the end shows you're deranged.

    As a Caucasian Christian woman I am superior to you

    Superior? LOL!

    A proud pagan polytheist human worshipper?

    Pathetic fools.

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    "A proud pagan polytheist human worshipper?" Are you a Muslim? Muslims think Christians are polytheists.
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  148. @Bardon Kaldian
    Derb is not a "white supremacist"; others are, more or less, white identitarians.

    And east Asians (or many south Asians) are not so phenotypically alien to us (whites). Of course, they are different, but "one drop rule" does not apply to them (think of Keanu Reeves). It's blacks who are definitely "the other".

    the onedrop rule will apply to whites also as more of us realise your genetics are horrible its been going bad for the past 5000 yrs ,google it you will see i am saying the truth.

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  149. @Brabantian
    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle, which is really not the case ... tho it is the nature of today's pick-out-the-straw-man lefty press, to pretend that extreme views are the middle ones

    What is more the case, is that people are observing how, some cultures seem to be able to immigrate and get along quite well with a minimum of friction, conflict or criminality ... and other cultures don't ... this does not imply 'marry only your own race'

    And peope are also observing how a lot of immigration is oligarch-operated social manipulation, on the order of the 49 large-scale historical cases described in USA Pentagon advisor Kelly Greenhill's book 'Weapons of Mass Migration' ... a practice which even Karl Marx himself talked about in the 1800s, manipulated immigration as an oligarch tool to wreck, demoralise and impoverish working-class lives

    The sensible moderate 'right' is not opposed to organic, natural, freely-chosen inter-racial dating, mixing etc, which easily exists along with desire to preserve Western cultural heritage aspects honoured as valuable, such as the Enlightenment

    There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form, and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues ... with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies ... which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim

    It is an aesthetic sentiment strong enough that some whites do wind up saying things like 'Once you partner with an Asian, you never go back to Caucasian' ... a 'fetish' thus I suppose

    Whatever bro

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  150. @neutral

    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle,
     
    You are so very wrong with this, miscegenation is the greatest crime, producing non white children means you have forfeited any right to pretend to defend European heritage.

    I wish there more of you man this way we get to keep our Beautiful EDAR genes to ourselves and you can keep your genes to yours thumbs up my friend.

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  151. @üeljang
    "There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form..."

    It is almost difficult for me to stifle a chuckle whenever I hear this assertion.

    Why are people who tend to have opaque, jaundiced-looking skin that tans to Indian levels of negritude, large, broad, flat faces with small facial features and small foreheads, large teeth, stiff, bristly hair, small breasts, thick, stubby legs, etc. claimed to be "particularly beautiful" women? Most of them are precisely the opposite in my estimation, though a minority of them are in fact very beautiful. However, even the ones who are physically beautiful naturally and not by means of cosmetic or surgical enhancements tend to have the expressionless poker face that is typical of their folk, though I suspect that that dourness is at least in some part a learned cultural behavior.

    One physical advantage that a majority of Asian women currently have over a majority of White women is slimness, which must be mostly a result of differing dietary habits. (Considering only individuals who are not overweight, White women tend to have more feminine figures with a lower WHR. The typical Asian woman would be better described as "not overweight" rather than "svelte.") I suppose one could add "low body height" to the short list of Asian female physical advantages, since a certain subset of men seems to have a taste for that. One physical feature that I actually do find more attractive on average in Asians is their relatively underdeveloped chins, which appear feminine to me (although it is also a primitive feature as far as I know).

    "...and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues … with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies … which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim"

    Asian "cultural-martial-relationship virtues" can be condensed pretty much to "putting up with just about anything as long as he brings home the dough." The women generally at least appear to be the quintessential pragmatists among extant humankind, not caring about morality or emotional integrity.

    In summary, I would say that the average White woman has the upper hand over the average Asian woman (over the typical female member of any non-White race for that matter) in terms of their innate personal endowments. However, Asian women definitely lead the pack when it comes to "added value" acquired through their own efforts: effective use of cosmetic and sartorial enhancements, deportment, obsequiousness, etc. Even their diction and tone of voice is a ruse and not natural by any means; one may observe that the average Asian woman actually has a quite husky voice and is brash in speech if one happens to catch her off guard (which is rare) chatting in what she believes to be a private space. In other words, Asian women tend to make great use of their cunning to make up for what they lack in beauty and gentleness.

    You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say cats, I say Satanic psychopaths.

    Yeah buddy preach more of this to your fellow whites speciiaally the low impulse pleasure loving small brained british ,I agree with most of what you say and I have only one comeback EDAR .

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  152. @Tulip
    I don't know that "Asian-Americans" are a "model minority", they seem to be a "high IQ" minority, and therefore over-represented (like certain more verbally gifted ethnics) in good jobs in certain industries.

    Obviously, since Blacks and Hispanics fail because of an evil conspiracy by white supremacists, and it has nothing to do with aptitude and talent, we now know the true reason for Asian success: white supremacists want to nail Asian girls, so they make sure the SAT is culturally biased in favor of Asians so there are plenty of successful Asians with eligible daughters.

    But seriously, as high-IQ/low crime specimens from much more collectivist and traditional societies, what is there not to like about Asians? At least if you are looking at quality over preservation. Europeans probably need a little more pro-hive genes in their gene pool at this point. . . the emerging Hapa army may be unstoppable. If we could just figure out how to breed Hapa men with Euro musculature and throwing skills, we'd be set.

    “But seriously, as high-IQ/low crime specimens from much more collectivist and traditional societies, what is there not to like about Asians? At least if you are looking at quality over preservation. Europeans probably need a little more pro-hive genes in their gene pool at this point. . . the emerging Hapa army may be unstoppable. If we could just figure out how to breed Hapa men with Euro musculature and throwing skills, we’d be set.” you are a self hating white guy man stick to you beautful white chicks.

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  153. Tulip says:

    Look, the best argument against “white supremacy” is not that you secretly dig Asian girls, rather, take a 5 minute walk through the local Walmart and check out the state of the “master race”. Nothing noble or Faustian about it. . . just about 30 years behind the Blacks in terms of welfare dependency and family dysfunction, and I bet you two suboxones they catch up fast.

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    This is true, but you are looking at whites as a whole, not a cherry picked sample of high-achieving minorities who've had the drive/capability to escape their own homelands.

    Go to any other nation and look at the average man/woman on the street. The working classes and underclasses of Asia aren't going to win any beauty contests either.
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  154. AaronB says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    One kind of selfishness can always become another kind of selfishness if circumstances favor it, if selfishness is the sole consideration. Sometimes, your interests are best served as part of a group, and sometimes, as an individual.
     
    This is one of the best explorations of negative externalities I've often talked about in adopting certain mindsets. The willingness to embrace nepotism eventually corrodes into other forms of corruption.

    Its something that they will come to discover for themselves, though. Show, not tell is not merely a literary device.

    Thanks, Daniel.

    Yes, theory is fine, but reality provides the best lessons.

    I’m just worried there’s no fresh thinking in the West. It’s just buzzards circling the same carcass of materialism.

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    I have faith that sieves of reality will drain off extremes in time and there will be new life that emerges from the carrion.
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  155. Kimppis says:
    @attilathehen
    Not wishful thinking. First, the Japanese are smarter than the Chinese. They were supposed to take over the world in the 1980s. Did they?

    Second, the Chinese can print whatever they want about their economic stats. Do you believe everything you read? I have a sister who's traveled to the Far East on business trips. She was not impressed by the Chinese at all.

    Third, yes we are importing Africans and muzzies. But this is shifting. The RCC and cuck poop Frannie are behind the black/Asian/Muslim invasion of Europe. For his Christmas masses, Frannie kept yapping about accepting and integrating these peoples. In the USA, the USA RCC bishops are the ones behind the illegal invasion from Latin America. They said that these illegals would teach Caucasian RCCers how to be better RCCers. How did that work out for the RCC? The USA RCC will be pretty much gone by 2020.

    Are you involved with Asians?

    Really a nice list of Sinophobic myths.

    Comparing Japan to China while not even realizing that the latter’s population is 10 times larger… Jesus. You are clearly an expert.

    Japan was already a fully developed country in the 80s. If and when China reaches a similar stage of development, it will already dominate the world (and actually, much earlier than that).

    “Japan dominating the world” was always BS, that would have required a per capita GDP 2-3 times higher than the US. China has over 4 times larger population than America, its economy is already 20% larger in PPP. Japan of 1980s and today’s China are not even remotely comparable.

    “China fakes statistics” is also nonsense. Look at their consumption indicators, i.e. the market size (the number of smartphones, internet users… supercomputers, etc., etc.). So if anything the actual size of the economy is larger in reality, and I’d imagine there will be UPWARDS adjustments soon (maybe by around 20-30%).

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    I know China's population is about 10 times larger than Japan's. But more doesn't mean better. The West has been trying to modernize China for several centuries. They have a superficial economy. Now that Trump is shifting production back to the USA this will hurt China. They have a huge male/female ratio imbalance because of their abortion policy. Something I'm happy about. They have peaked. Japan peaked in the 1980s. China has already peaked. Asians are inferior to Caucasians. There will be no Chinese century. There was no Japanese century.
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  156. @AaronB
    Thanks, Daniel.

    Yes, theory is fine, but reality provides the best lessons.

    I'm just worried there's no fresh thinking in the West. It's just buzzards circling the same carcass of materialism.

    I have faith that sieves of reality will drain off extremes in time and there will be new life that emerges from the carrion.

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  157. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Along with many of the points mentioned by others about why oriental women are sort after by white men, there is one other factor which may possibly play a part; that is, the oriental woman’s spirituality.

    Taoism, Shintoism, and other pretentious nonsense which emanates from the East, are not religions in the strict sense of the word.

    Women from such backgrounds are perhaps more malleable to whatever their white “masters” will of them on a spiritual level.

    To briefly summarise the plus points of the oriental woman;
    1. Reasonably whitish, with slim bodies.
    2. Offspring are also assured to be reasonably whitish.
    3. Spiritually malleable.
    4. None to minimal change in dietary habits required. Those Orientals love their filthy swine meat, just like the average white fella.
    5. Somewhat submissive, and willing to stroke the white man’s, er, ego, when required.
    6. No inhibitions with regards to modesty, promiscuity, intoxication, gambling, etc.
    7. :

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    Women from such backgrounds are perhaps more malleable to whatever their white “masters” will of them . . . Somewhat submissive, and willing to stroke the white man’s, er, ego, when required.
     
    In short, a kind of colonial redux except the white man isn't conquering and expanding his domain but desperately trying to hold on to his little homestead with his pushy "oriental" wife and mixed children who often look more like the immigrants he hates... not that he's very fond of his wife's kind either.
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  158. polskijoe says:

    My opinion…
    No race is superior. They have differences. Assuming you are racialist.

    I get a feeling that some WN, alt-lite, alt-right may like East Asian females. But its true of any other group. Liberals, Leftists, may like them too.

    White supramacist would likely not marry Easts Asians, but how many white supramacists are there now. Like 1 percent. They are irrelevant.

    All these groups are different, although sometimes overlap. The media just bunches a lot of people as alt-right. even an average trump supporter with a frog will be thrown in.

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  159. fnn says:

    Lyrics to new song:

    https://therightstuff.biz/2018/01/10/tds242-the-gotcha-strip/

    THE ASIANS:

    [MORE]

    Oh I left a lot behind when I got red pilled
    So many things that i thought i loved were jewed af
    Monday night Football, the N F L
    Hollywood movies, primetime TV
    Baby, i can’t even eat those Little Debbie treats
    But none of that compares to the love I left behind MUH GEISHAS
    (geishas)
    GEI-EI-EI-EI-SHAS

    The Asians were the hardest part
    Anime tidders for Big Daikon
    A 2D Waifu With 3D Lady Parts
    The Asians were the hardest part

    The honorary aryan, jews fear the samurai
    Yellow Fever never got me down
    Yeah i had to learn burnin’ rice has a price
    Elliot Rodger beta hapa strife
    But now i know i’ve gotta leave that all behind
    Love the white race but i’ll never love’m quite like a
    SHEILA
    (sheila)
    SHEI-EI-EI-LA

    The Asians were the hardest part
    Anime tidders for Big Daikon
    A 2D Waifu With 3D Lady Parts
    The Asians were the hardest part

    OOoh I miss them sheilas baby, I miss them smelly gooks
    I miss them sheilas baby, I miss them smelly gooks
    I’ll be your gaijin baby, I’ll be your big gweilo
    Don’t want no yellow pill! Its all chink in the middle!

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  160. @attilathehen
    (((Mike Cernevich))) - yes, he's Jewish - is married to an Iranian Muslim woman. Nothing kosher here.

    John Derbyshire (WASP) married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites. He is not a white nationalist. https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/ I don't why he bothers with his scribblings.

    Jeff Session has daughter who married a Korean and has Korean offspring. This is why he is so cucked about race.

    This "alt right" fetish with Asians (which is a minor occurence) will end shortly. Asians are inferior to Caucasians.

    John Derbyshire (WASP) married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites.

    Where did I state that?

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    Here is a simple question for which there is only one answer: which people are better, the English or the Chinese?
    , @Thomm

    Where did I state that?
     
    Attilathehen is just desperate for male attention. Everything she says is with that goal.

    The most severe punishment you can mete out to her is to ignore her.
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  161. @attilathehen
    My head must be exploding! LOL!!! I don't know which "Anonymous" you are: the anti-white Turkish atheist jihadi; the white guy or the Anon-og who complimented me and said that my comments can do some real damage.

    I know the USA was not a Western nation in the European sense, but this is a European country. I know about the American Indians and Eskimos. They are small in number and not a threat. I want a majority white country. You ideas about sending dual citizens away is great. This will take care of the Jews. Next, people will be divided into 3 groups: Caucasians, Asians, blacks. Blacks will have to be segregated and marriage laws brought back barring interracial marriage. Asians will have to go back to Asia. And their marriages will need to be barred. Biology comes first, then beliefs. Most Muslims are non-white so their racial category will take care of them. Hispanics come in all races so they will be divided accordingly. IQ is best determinator. And no Jews are not the smartest tribe ever. The other things to be dealt with are the RCC and Zioevangizers. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. This is why cucks are so cucked, because of religion. The Orthodox Church will be the future of Christianity because the churches are racial/ethnic. School curricula will have to state explicitly that the Caucasian race, Christianity are superior to the Asian/black races and other belief systems. This is what pre-1965 USA schools basically believed and implicitly taught. If some Caucasians want to be with non-whites, they will live in their neighborhoods. I'm not a neo-Nazi or these crazies who blame the Jews for everything. I notice when I ask commentators who don't like Jews what we should do with and where we should put them, they never answer. These people are nuts. I support Israel because that is where the Jews belong. Neo-Nazis just use the Jews as an excuse. There is a guy, Matt Heimbach who is the leader of some national socialist group in the USA. I listened to his show and he blamed everything on the Jews. Well, he joined up with a Jew and his Jewish wife to work with them at some website called The Right Stuff. These people are nuts. The actual German Nazis said that people less than 1/8 Jewish were not Jews. I despise Derbyshire because his children could have assimilated over time, but he actually believes the Chinese are superior to the English!!! Pure degeneracy and madness. And today with international travel they will go back to Asia. Another thing I always point out is the Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. Many of these "alt-right" men are Jews married to Asians. Jews like Ben Shapiro, Milo Y, Mike Cernovich are considered alt-right. Jews cannot be alt-right. Deporting the Jews to Israel takes care of many problems. These problems can be easily solved. But it is always the RCC/Zioevangizers/Freemasons who get in the way.

    I despise Derbyshire because his children could have assimilated over time, but he actually believes the Chinese are superior to the English!!!

    Got a link?

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    "W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians;"

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/

    Asians had nothing to do with Harvard's founding. Do you know what kind of people created Harvard?

    You're also a 'fraidy cat when it comes to the Jews.

    http://jewcy.com/post/wrestling_with_derbyshires_law Were Jews involved in Harvard's beginnings?
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  162. @Achmed E. Newman

    Choogling with Gooks
     
    Great name for a band!
    .
    .
    .

    "And here's a cover from our new album.:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB8CMN-jX_g

    Yeah, John Fogerty may have invented that word, because he was trying to push it into the vernacular of the ’60s. Back when CCR made that song, they are the only ones I ever heard using it. I always thought it was kind of funny, but dumb-sounding.

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  163. Bach says:
    @anonymous
    Along with many of the points mentioned by others about why oriental women are sort after by white men, there is one other factor which may possibly play a part; that is, the oriental woman's spirituality.

    Taoism, Shintoism, and other pretentious nonsense which emanates from the East, are not religions in the strict sense of the word.

    Women from such backgrounds are perhaps more malleable to whatever their white "masters" will of them on a spiritual level.

    To briefly summarise the plus points of the oriental woman;
    1. Reasonably whitish, with slim bodies.
    2. Offspring are also assured to be reasonably whitish.
    3. Spiritually malleable.
    4. None to minimal change in dietary habits required. Those Orientals love their filthy swine meat, just like the average white fella.
    5. Somewhat submissive, and willing to stroke the white man's, er, ego, when required.
    6. No inhibitions with regards to modesty, promiscuity, intoxication, gambling, etc.
    7. :

    Women from such backgrounds are perhaps more malleable to whatever their white “masters” will of them . . . Somewhat submissive, and willing to stroke the white man’s, er, ego, when required.

    In short, a kind of colonial redux except the white man isn’t conquering and expanding his domain but desperately trying to hold on to his little homestead with his pushy “oriental” wife and mixed children who often look more like the immigrants he hates… not that he’s very fond of his wife’s kind either.

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  164. @John Derbyshire

    I despise Derbyshire because his children could have assimilated over time, but he actually believes the Chinese are superior to the English!!!
     
    Got a link?

    “W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians;”

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/

    Asians had nothing to do with Harvard’s founding. Do you know what kind of people created Harvard?

    You’re also a ‘fraidy cat when it comes to the Jews.

    http://jewcy.com/post/wrestling_with_derbyshires_law Were Jews involved in Harvard’s beginnings?

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    Smarter = better? Category error: "smart" is a psychometric adjective, "good" a moral one. Joe Stalin was smarter than Warren Harding, but Harding was the better man.
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  165. @Kimppis
    Really a nice list of Sinophobic myths.

    Comparing Japan to China while not even realizing that the latter's population is 10 times larger... Jesus. You are clearly an expert.

    Japan was already a fully developed country in the 80s. If and when China reaches a similar stage of development, it will already dominate the world (and actually, much earlier than that).

    "Japan dominating the world" was always BS, that would have required a per capita GDP 2-3 times higher than the US. China has over 4 times larger population than America, its economy is already 20% larger in PPP. Japan of 1980s and today's China are not even remotely comparable.

    "China fakes statistics" is also nonsense. Look at their consumption indicators, i.e. the market size (the number of smartphones, internet users... supercomputers, etc., etc.). So if anything the actual size of the economy is larger in reality, and I'd imagine there will be UPWARDS adjustments soon (maybe by around 20-30%).

    I know China’s population is about 10 times larger than Japan’s. But more doesn’t mean better. The West has been trying to modernize China for several centuries. They have a superficial economy. Now that Trump is shifting production back to the USA this will hurt China. They have a huge male/female ratio imbalance because of their abortion policy. Something I’m happy about. They have peaked. Japan peaked in the 1980s. China has already peaked. Asians are inferior to Caucasians. There will be no Chinese century. There was no Japanese century.

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    "Asians are inferior to Caucasians"LOL we have big brains and above all the mighty EDAR disease fighting, skin cancer fighting and age resistant beautiful yellow skin.
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  166. @anonymous

    As a Caucasian Christian woman I am superior to you
     
    Superior? LOL!

    A proud pagan polytheist human worshipper?

    Pathetic fools.

    “A proud pagan polytheist human worshipper?” Are you a Muslim? Muslims think Christians are polytheists.

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  167. @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    filipinos for a so called small iq people earn even more than indians as a gruop , most filipinos own their own homes , dont do opiods ,dont do much crime, are not on welfare this is more than i can say about basque british americans.

    Average IQ of the Philippines is 86. We need these Filipinos to go back and make the Philippines great again. Duterte is fighting Muslims and drug dealers. He needs these slightly smarter Filipinos to help him. Basques, Brits are my kinspeople. Filipinos are not.

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    Basques, Brits are my kinspeople

    How does that work?
    , @britishbraisize1325cclol
    Even flips are superior than the bad immune system of the basque britshits, forget the yellow skinned asians.
    , @anon

    Basques, Brits are my kinspeople.
     
    Sorry but you have to go back too. America needs to return to its WASP origin. Your WASP blood has been tainted, and what's more since you are RCC from cradle it means the Basque blood is dominant in your genes. America was a great country until the WASPs started taking in the low IQ Catholic horde from Ireland and Southern Europe. To this day Catholic Europe is mired in corruption, immorality and economic stagnation, evidence of their lower IQ. Your Spanish blood has been tainted for centuries by the constantly invading low IQ(81) Arabs, which is why the Spanish conquistadors acted like Arabs when they came to the New World - killing indiscriminately, raping, plundering, and spreading their toxic Roman Catholic religion. The British never mixed with the natives when they conquered their land. Spaniards have no morals, like the Arabs.

    And no you do not get to exonerate yourself by excommunicating from the RCC. You cannot change your ethnic composition. Since you insist people who are otherwise assimilated by becoming US citizens, swearing allegiance to the US and no other country, adopted the Protestant ethic of law abidingness and upward mobility still cannot stay in America by virtue of their ethnic composition, no such courtesy will be extended to you.

    Take your tainted low IQ Catholic Southern European ass back to Spain. Basque country needs you. America doesn't.

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  168. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Tulip
    Here is a nice root article on Asian racism:

    https://www.theroot.com/racism-in-asian-countries-and-fear-of-the-black-male-1790855705

    Note that the reason Asians hate blacks in South East Asia is because the whites working for the US military taught them to hate blacks. Pretty powerful that hateful honkeys could poison a continent.

    Asians hate blacks in South East Asia is because the whites working for the US military taught them to hate blacks. Pretty powerful that hateful honkeys could poison a continent.

    I call BS on your assertion. In these cultures, and ALL Asian cultures, lighter skin is considered more beautiful. Example: Skin lightening creams for sale. This is a fact of life, and to deny it makes one not serious.

    Also, features that are less monkey-like are considered more beautiful. This is evolution in action, and northern Caucasoid features, including light colored eyes, are considered desirable, while more atavistic retrograde features are considered undesirable.

    White’s didn’t teach South East Asian’s to hate negroes, the assertion is laughable on its face. Black behaviors are reproduced in all continents where blacks immigrate. Another laughable implication is that South East Asians cannot see things with their own eyes, or cannot think for themselves – they need whites to tell them what to think.

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    No, it is all whitey's fault, just read the article in the Root. I know that the Mainstream Media would never publish fake news scapegoating a racial group unfairly for furthering animosity between two other groups. That would be like anti-semitism or something.
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  169. iffen says:
    @attilathehen
    Average IQ of the Philippines is 86. We need these Filipinos to go back and make the Philippines great again. Duterte is fighting Muslims and drug dealers. He needs these slightly smarter Filipinos to help him. Basques, Brits are my kinspeople. Filipinos are not.

    Basques, Brits are my kinspeople

    How does that work?

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  170. @John Derbyshire

    John Derbyshire (WASP) married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites.

     

    Where did I state that?

    Here is a simple question for which there is only one answer: which people are better, the English or the Chinese?

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    I can answer that one: the English are better Englishmen and the Chinese are better Chinks.
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    "Here is a simple question for which there is only one answer: which people are better, the English or the Chinese?" See my handle and most importantly ,english have shit immune system curly hair and dont have the EDAR gene,so english or britshit whatever are inferioor.
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  171. @attilathehen
    Here is a simple question for which there is only one answer: which people are better, the English or the Chinese?

    I can answer that one: the English are better Englishmen and the Chinese are better Chinks.

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    I can answer that one: the English are better Englishmen and the Chinese are better Chinks.
     
    It's people like you that make the demise of people like you less sad.
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  172. Thomm says:
    @John Derbyshire

    John Derbyshire (WASP) married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites.

     

    Where did I state that?

    Where did I state that?

    Attilathehen is just desperate for male attention. Everything she says is with that goal.

    The most severe punishment you can mete out to her is to ignore her.

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  173. bartok says:

    Yellow women have white fever, and they don’t mind nerds. That explains the entirety of the phenomenon.

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  174. @Svigor
    Oh, and I'm not even the first person to modify the original. Payback has a deplorable blond villain who quips (after beating up a Korean), "you know the problem with kicking a Chow's ass? An hour later you wanna do it again."

    Payback has a deplorable blond villain who quips (after beating up a Korean), “you know the problem with kicking a Chow’s ass? An hour later you wanna do it again.” its easy to be brave didnt see you guys do shit when you were gettin beat up by mexicans during the election, slave

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  175. @attilathehen
    Here is a simple question for which there is only one answer: which people are better, the English or the Chinese?

    “Here is a simple question for which there is only one answer: which people are better, the English or the Chinese?” See my handle and most importantly ,english have shit immune system curly hair and dont have the EDAR gene,so english or britshit whatever are inferioor.

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  176. @attilathehen
    Average IQ of the Philippines is 86. We need these Filipinos to go back and make the Philippines great again. Duterte is fighting Muslims and drug dealers. He needs these slightly smarter Filipinos to help him. Basques, Brits are my kinspeople. Filipinos are not.

    Even flips are superior than the bad immune system of the basque britshits, forget the yellow skinned asians.

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  177. @attilathehen
    I know China's population is about 10 times larger than Japan's. But more doesn't mean better. The West has been trying to modernize China for several centuries. They have a superficial economy. Now that Trump is shifting production back to the USA this will hurt China. They have a huge male/female ratio imbalance because of their abortion policy. Something I'm happy about. They have peaked. Japan peaked in the 1980s. China has already peaked. Asians are inferior to Caucasians. There will be no Chinese century. There was no Japanese century.

    “Asians are inferior to Caucasians”LOL we have big brains and above all the mighty EDAR disease fighting, skin cancer fighting and age resistant beautiful yellow skin.

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  178. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    If anything this article proves that the term “white nationalist” is a misnomer, many of these WN are in fact not white racialist, as the term White Nationalist implies. They are simply Nationalists, as opposed to Globalists.

     

    That's true. But she was raising the curiosity of white racialists and other variety of racists with a penchants for Asian women.

    WN and Alt-right are just negative terms that the left throws at anyone who wants to limit immigration before the US turns into a third world country.
     
    I agree. But among the right there are true white nationalists as well with Asian women.

    Only the brain dead left could turn a compliment like “model minority” into something negative.
     
    I agree. It seems some minorities view it as a "divide and conquer" strategy. So the feeling is that they must all be equally scorned in order to build a united front.

    However, I was speaking more directly to other stereotypes, such as hypersexuality, that Asian women also play up to while superficially protesting against.

    However, I was speaking more directly to other stereotypes, such as hypersexuality, that Asian women also play up to while superficially protesting against.

    The stereotype probably comes from the fact that there are countries in Asia like Thailand and Philippines that are famous for sex tourism. No other continent has countries with such reputation, although the Eastern Europeans are catching up. It also doesn’t help when Asian actresses like Sandra Oh plays into that stereotype in Grey’s Anatomy and that horrid movie Sideways.

    I think the Asian women who play up this stereotype are doing it out of insecurity. They probably feel like that is the only way they could out hot the white girls to get guys’ attention, and are too immature to realize that kind of behavior will only draw the wrong kind of attention. They were also egged on by our rotten pop culture with shows like Sex and the City which promoted promiscuity as feminism, and thought that that was the only way to gain acceptance into a white dominant culture…by acting more like white women. What they didn’t get was most white women do not act that way.

    Perhaps the one good thing that could come out of this latest PC/feminist wave is that young people will no longer feel like they need to party hard or do what they don’t really want to do to gain acceptance, whether by the opposite sex or by their peers. In fact there are signs this is already happening. The Gen Z who are currently in middle school and high school might be the most conservative generation since the 1950s. The implosion of Harveywood will hopefully bring an end to the rotten excesses of the past 5 decades.

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    "The Gen Z who are currently in middle school and high school might be the most conservative generation since the 1950s. The implosion of Harveywood will hopefully bring an end to the rotten excesses of the past 5 decades."the sexula revolution ended by the time of the Xgeneration, millenials are way better than the baby boomer degenarates who spread aids to the world, millenials are tastefully dressed and even if you see a millenial dress trashy one can tell she is awkward as hell and just not use to wearing clothes like that, too bad the baby boomer slime are the cause of mellenial health problems today.
    , @Bach

    The stereotype probably comes from the fact that there are countries in Asia like Thailand and Philippines that are famous for sex tourism.
     
    I think it probably appeared long before that, perhaps concomitant with colonialism and 20th century wars where the sexuality of at least a generation of young men were shaped by their experiences abroad.

    So perhaps it was in the miasma of imperialism, wars and youthful fantasies that sex tourism emerged.
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  179. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox
    Asian-Americans aren't an unified bunch, first off. Chinese, Indian, Korean, Vietnamese, Filipino, Japanese, whatever culture all have drastic differences to them. Khmer immigrants in the Pacific Northwest tend to be rather blue-collar bunch with high rates of crime, low rates of education, and (sadly yet predictably) high rates of PTSD for the older generation, contrary to the Asian upwardly mobile stereotype, for example. Many Filipinos in the United States came by connections to the military, whereas most of the first post-1965 wave of migrants from China and Taiwan (1970s-early 1990s) were professorial types-they were the only ones allowed in. Then you had the Koreans, who had people in both camps.

    (Heck, China and India have dozens of regions that are all drastically different from each other-there are big differences between the mainly Cantonese old-style Chinatowns founded in the 1800s and the "professor wave" of the 1980s and newer places like Flushing that attract a lot of Northeasterners and Fujianese. And India's many peoples often don't even share the same alphabet or skin color.)

    >then perhaps that opens the door to acceptance from white supremacists.

    Isn't is a very odd white supremacist that doesn't think that whites are... well, supreme? One would think that they'd view whites as the most intrinsically superior, intelligent race there is. Yet plenty of so-called "white supremacists" readily admit that Asians have higher IQs, higher academic success, by and large a better work ethic, etc. I don't think many would deny that if college admissions were remotely fair in the United States, MIT and Harvard would be 90, 95% East and South Asian.

    White supremacists are a small subsection of what can be nebulously termed "the alt-right". No more, no less. Here on Unz, you see libertarians, paleocons, monarchists, technocrats... atheists and religious, populists and anti-populists alike, all sorts. Only united by a broadly defined "right-wing" political orientation and an (often well justified) distaste for one or more aspects of the failed "three-legged stool" of post-1992 GOP ideology-to say nothing of the Party itself-that prevents them from identifying with the Republican Party and Conservatism Inc.

    Feeling America was a European creation that should remain a Western Culture populated primarily by people of European decent doesn’t mean you are a ‘White Supremisist’

    I doubt somebody like Derbyshire or Sailor calls themselves or sees themselves as ‘Supreme’

    This is just typical NY Times language games meant to paint their ideological enemies as uber-villains.

    The overwhelming majority of Americans even 40-50 years ago would just assume the USA was a Western (white/European) country and would naturally want to keep it that way. This Multicultural idea is the radical, new ideology, not the ‘White Supremacist’ outlook.

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  180. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    You may be mistaking desperation for wisdom in the case of these alt-right guys
     
    It's de facto desperation because their cause is the salvation of white Western civilization or some simulacrum of that and Asian women are viewed as a countermeasure to the rising tide of all that ails Western culture. But while they bask in the coos and warm embrace of foreign women, Rome falls.

    The metaphor applies most poignantly to racialist white men but it is also relevant to Western men generally as well who seek out foreign women in order to escape the perceived calamity of the West.

    The metaphor applies most poignantly to racialist white men but it is also relevant to Western men generally as well who seek out foreign women in order to escape the perceived calamity of the West.

    The reality is an overwhelming majority of white men still marry white women, especially in the Red states. Mixed marriages are only occurring in larger numbers in the coastal blue states. And even there, white-white marriages still predominate.

    As Steve Sailer pointed out a couple of years ago, outmarriage rates have actually gone down for both Asians and hispanics as both groups continue to rise in number due to high immigration. These groups now have more choices to stay in-group.

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  181. @Tulip
    Look, the best argument against "white supremacy" is not that you secretly dig Asian girls, rather, take a 5 minute walk through the local Walmart and check out the state of the "master race". Nothing noble or Faustian about it. . . just about 30 years behind the Blacks in terms of welfare dependency and family dysfunction, and I bet you two suboxones they catch up fast.

    This is true, but you are looking at whites as a whole, not a cherry picked sample of high-achieving minorities who’ve had the drive/capability to escape their own homelands.

    Go to any other nation and look at the average man/woman on the street. The working classes and underclasses of Asia aren’t going to win any beauty contests either.

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    "The working classes and underclasses of Asia aren’t going to win any beauty contests either."

    Nonsense. The average female cashier at a 7-11 in Japan is a cutie-pie 7-8. Eye candy everywhere.
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  182. Tulip says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    Asians hate blacks in South East Asia is because the whites working for the US military taught them to hate blacks. Pretty powerful that hateful honkeys could poison a continent.
     
    I call BS on your assertion. In these cultures, and ALL Asian cultures, lighter skin is considered more beautiful. Example: Skin lightening creams for sale. This is a fact of life, and to deny it makes one not serious.

    Also, features that are less monkey-like are considered more beautiful. This is evolution in action, and northern Caucasoid features, including light colored eyes, are considered desirable, while more atavistic retrograde features are considered undesirable.

    White's didn't teach South East Asian's to hate negroes, the assertion is laughable on its face. Black behaviors are reproduced in all continents where blacks immigrate. Another laughable implication is that South East Asians cannot see things with their own eyes, or cannot think for themselves - they need whites to tell them what to think.

    No, it is all whitey’s fault, just read the article in the Root. I know that the Mainstream Media would never publish fake news scapegoating a racial group unfairly for furthering animosity between two other groups. That would be like anti-semitism or something.

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  183. Bach says:
    @Twodees Partain
    I can answer that one: the English are better Englishmen and the Chinese are better Chinks.

    I can answer that one: the English are better Englishmen and the Chinese are better Chinks.

    It’s people like you that make the demise of people like you less sad.

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  184. @attilathehen
    "W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians;"

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/

    Asians had nothing to do with Harvard's founding. Do you know what kind of people created Harvard?

    You're also a 'fraidy cat when it comes to the Jews.

    http://jewcy.com/post/wrestling_with_derbyshires_law Were Jews involved in Harvard's beginnings?

    Smarter = better? Category error: “smart” is a psychometric adjective, “good” a moral one. Joe Stalin was smarter than Warren Harding, but Harding was the better man.

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    "Smart" is overrated. There is, of course, more to life than IQ games. For instance China, in Malraux's words "civilization pretending to be a nation", has existed perhaps 1000 years more than classical Greece. But, Greeks (our cultural & intellectual ancestors) have surpassed them (and all others) in a short time.

    West begins in the Greek miracle. Not in static Egypt, nor in later, rather slow witted but efficient Rome. And what we have with old Greeks (aside from bisexuality) ?
    1. the idea of man as a rational individual, frequently at war with gods
    2. very developed abstract language which is still the source of neologisms in sciences (and sometimes arts)
    3. democracy and other forms, but always questioning the forms of government
    4. naval orientation, which helped foster expansion & questioning of dogmas
    5. not very reverent approach to the tradition
    6. population which is, although significant, not very big in numbers

    In China, we have:

    1. a civilization which is by its very nature land-oriented (although, of course, not land-locked)
    2. conservative approach inherited from the Bronze Age, a refined "enlightened despotism"
    3. general conservatism & unwillingness to search for "the new"
    4. orientation towards practical, pragmatic and disregard for the abstract, which is seen in the structure of Chinese language (see Nakamura: Ways of Thinking of Eastern Peoples)
    5. too big population- China has always been ca. 15-25% of humankind

    In sum, if we are talking about not just practical inventions, but instead of complete civilizational orientation which could create a modern world, Chinese were lacking in:
    * abstraction
    * orientation towards the future
    * expansive disposition that comes from too many factors

    Now, West is in a decadent state. Walter Laqueur has quoted Schopenhauer re this matter ( http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/interview-with-historian-walter-laqueur-on-the-decline-of-europe-a-912837.html ): The real question is: Does Europe, in its apathy, even want to play a role in global politics? Arthur Schopenhauer, the great philosopher of pessimism, said that it's easy to want, but that "wanting to want" is virtually impossible. No matter how often European values are invoked and praised, a weak will, inertia, fatigue, self-doubt and lack of self-confidence all amount to the psychological diagnosis of a weak ego.

    What is wrong with white European peoples is this lack of optimism, dynamism, orientation toward future... But, Laqueur quotes Pope at the end: Hope springs eternal.

    I am certain China (and other east Asian nations) will have great future (as it had great past). Just, their inherent weaknesses will also have shown, radically. And after all- Europeans are more creative & will remain so in a foreseeable future (if they not drown themselves with Africans & Muslims).

    Forget, for a moment, all discussions about IQ and look at statues.

    Chinese sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    Greek sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that "something" cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.
    , @attilathehen
    WOW!!! I ask a simple question with an obvious answer: the English are smarter, morally superior to the Chinese and you come up with Stalin (Georgian) versus Warren Harding (USA WASP)!!! (An insult to me as an American that you could even put these 2 in the same category!!!) You have Asian AIDS caused by an Asian woman and this has been transmitted to your Chinese offspring. I'm trying to keep calm as I type my response. First, for all readers of this website, this shows the worthlessness of VDare. That they would keep such a degenerate as Derbyshire on their website is beyond belief. AmRen is now compromised because they can no longer have Derbyshire as a speaker at their conferences. It fact, it is better if they get banned/boycotted because they are consorting with an enemy of Western civilization - Derbyshire. Here is the enemy, not the "Jews." Derbyshire will scribble about illegals from Latin America, but refuses to deal with the refuse China dumps in the USA. His wife is an example of this refuse. https://www.41nbc.com/2018/01/09/baby-bust-feds-raid-california-maternity-hotels/ Derbyshire turned his back on the West when he married the Chinese woman. China has performed over 400 million abortions since the mid 1970s. It is too bad his wife was not one of these. Females are aborted the most. His children will compound these problems. The daughter and wife voted for Obama. This despite his article about having a talk with your children about blacks. His wife and daughter have castrated him. The son had problems and needed to enter the military to be straightened out. So much for the Asian tiger mother ideal. Asians and Middle East Muslims are the majority of shooters in the USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjp_qtCgEas

    I commented before that Derbyshire could have redeemed himself if his Chinese family would make a speech at AmRen acknowledging the superiority of the West over the East and that they were grateful for the chance at being in the West. We now see that this will never occur and this is because of Derbyshire.
    , @Truth
    Hey Derb, I think you have to conceed the "Fraidy Cat of Jews" thing. Attila nailed you there.
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  185. @Anonymous

    However, I was speaking more directly to other stereotypes, such as hypersexuality, that Asian women also play up to while superficially protesting against.
     
    The stereotype probably comes from the fact that there are countries in Asia like Thailand and Philippines that are famous for sex tourism. No other continent has countries with such reputation, although the Eastern Europeans are catching up. It also doesn't help when Asian actresses like Sandra Oh plays into that stereotype in Grey's Anatomy and that horrid movie Sideways.

    I think the Asian women who play up this stereotype are doing it out of insecurity. They probably feel like that is the only way they could out hot the white girls to get guys' attention, and are too immature to realize that kind of behavior will only draw the wrong kind of attention. They were also egged on by our rotten pop culture with shows like Sex and the City which promoted promiscuity as feminism, and thought that that was the only way to gain acceptance into a white dominant culture...by acting more like white women. What they didn't get was most white women do not act that way.

    Perhaps the one good thing that could come out of this latest PC/feminist wave is that young people will no longer feel like they need to party hard or do what they don't really want to do to gain acceptance, whether by the opposite sex or by their peers. In fact there are signs this is already happening. The Gen Z who are currently in middle school and high school might be the most conservative generation since the 1950s. The implosion of Harveywood will hopefully bring an end to the rotten excesses of the past 5 decades.

    “The Gen Z who are currently in middle school and high school might be the most conservative generation since the 1950s. The implosion of Harveywood will hopefully bring an end to the rotten excesses of the past 5 decades.”the sexula revolution ended by the time of the Xgeneration, millenials are way better than the baby boomer degenarates who spread aids to the world, millenials are tastefully dressed and even if you see a millenial dress trashy one can tell she is awkward as hell and just not use to wearing clothes like that, too bad the baby boomer slime are the cause of mellenial health problems today.

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  186. @John Derbyshire
    Smarter = better? Category error: "smart" is a psychometric adjective, "good" a moral one. Joe Stalin was smarter than Warren Harding, but Harding was the better man.

    “Smart” is overrated. There is, of course, more to life than IQ games. For instance China, in Malraux’s words “civilization pretending to be a nation”, has existed perhaps 1000 years more than classical Greece. But, Greeks (our cultural & intellectual ancestors) have surpassed them (and all others) in a short time.

    West begins in the Greek miracle. Not in static Egypt, nor in later, rather slow witted but efficient Rome. And what we have with old Greeks (aside from bisexuality) ?
    1. the idea of man as a rational individual, frequently at war with gods
    2. very developed abstract language which is still the source of neologisms in sciences (and sometimes arts)
    3. democracy and other forms, but always questioning the forms of government
    4. naval orientation, which helped foster expansion & questioning of dogmas
    5. not very reverent approach to the tradition
    6. population which is, although significant, not very big in numbers

    In China, we have:

    1. a civilization which is by its very nature land-oriented (although, of course, not land-locked)
    2. conservative approach inherited from the Bronze Age, a refined “enlightened despotism”
    3. general conservatism & unwillingness to search for “the new”
    4. orientation towards practical, pragmatic and disregard for the abstract, which is seen in the structure of Chinese language (see Nakamura: Ways of Thinking of Eastern Peoples)
    5. too big population- China has always been ca. 15-25% of humankind

    In sum, if we are talking about not just practical inventions, but instead of complete civilizational orientation which could create a modern world, Chinese were lacking in:
    * abstraction
    * orientation towards the future
    * expansive disposition that comes from too many factors

    Now, West is in a decadent state. Walter Laqueur has quoted Schopenhauer re this matter ( http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/interview-with-historian-walter-laqueur-on-the-decline-of-europe-a-912837.html ): The real question is: Does Europe, in its apathy, even want to play a role in global politics? Arthur Schopenhauer, the great philosopher of pessimism, said that it’s easy to want, but that “wanting to want” is virtually impossible. No matter how often European values are invoked and praised, a weak will, inertia, fatigue, self-doubt and lack of self-confidence all amount to the psychological diagnosis of a weak ego.

    What is wrong with white European peoples is this lack of optimism, dynamism, orientation toward future… But, Laqueur quotes Pope at the end: Hope springs eternal.

    I am certain China (and other east Asian nations) will have great future (as it had great past). Just, their inherent weaknesses will also have shown, radically. And after all- Europeans are more creative & will remain so in a foreseeable future (if they not drown themselves with Africans & Muslims).

    Forget, for a moment, all discussions about IQ and look at statues.

    Chinese sculpture

    https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    Greek sculpture

    https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that “something” cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.

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    It really all depends on your values, Bardon.

    For me, the highest flower of the human spirit is the world denying philosophy of a Chiang Tzu, who sees the world as an illusion not be taken seriously.

    The optimistic Greeks seem like children from my perspective.I

    If you are interested in civilization and accomplishment, the West is supreme. If you find those things rather childish and based on a superficial metaphysic, the frantic activity of the West seems rather silly, a much ado about nothing, by people too dumb to realize our lives are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is founded with a sleep.

    The cloud capped towers, gorgeous palaces, and solemn temples of the West cannot compensate for the loss of happiness in Western civilization, and cannot compare with Chinese civilization in the only thing that matters - happiness, which is seeing through the illusion.
    , @Bach

    Chinese sculpture https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648
    Greek sculpture https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648
    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that “something” cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.
     
    I don't know much about art, but how is an exact replication of observed phenomenon more creative than a transmutation of reality?

    The Chinese were doing abstract art centuries before the West.

    I think your bullet points are lots of cliches.

    , @attilathehen
    Exactly. The West (Caucasian/European) is superior to the inferior East (Asian). Derbyshire has gone native.
    , @anon
    I agree with your critique of China, but where is Greece today? Mired in economic stagnation and corruption, living off past glory. When was the last time a Greek invented anything of substance? Today's Greeks seem to have nothing to do with the ancient Greeks that gave the world Philosophy, Mythology, Democracy and the Olympics. That was over 2,400 years ago. Since then little of substance have come out of Greece. Practically all modern scientific and technological invention eluded the Greeks. The Industrial Revolution was started by the British. Too much philosophy is not a good thing. You can get trapped in your mind and think yourself into a hole, like the Jews. A little practicality is a good thing. The WASP have the perfect balance of imagination(Greeks) and practicality(Asians), that's why WASPs invented almost everything we use today, and run the most stable, advanced societies.

    Btw from looking at the statues, I got the exact opposite impression. It doesn't take much imagination to make statues out of actual humans. The Chinese statues actually show more imagination with deity and mythical creatures.

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  187. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen
    Average IQ of the Philippines is 86. We need these Filipinos to go back and make the Philippines great again. Duterte is fighting Muslims and drug dealers. He needs these slightly smarter Filipinos to help him. Basques, Brits are my kinspeople. Filipinos are not.

    Basques, Brits are my kinspeople.

    Sorry but you have to go back too. America needs to return to its WASP origin. Your WASP blood has been tainted, and what’s more since you are RCC from cradle it means the Basque blood is dominant in your genes. America was a great country until the WASPs started taking in the low IQ Catholic horde from Ireland and Southern Europe. To this day Catholic Europe is mired in corruption, immorality and economic stagnation, evidence of their lower IQ. Your Spanish blood has been tainted for centuries by the constantly invading low IQ(81) Arabs, which is why the Spanish conquistadors acted like Arabs when they came to the New World – killing indiscriminately, raping, plundering, and spreading their toxic Roman Catholic religion. The British never mixed with the natives when they conquered their land. Spaniards have no morals, like the Arabs.

    And no you do not get to exonerate yourself by excommunicating from the RCC. You cannot change your ethnic composition. Since you insist people who are otherwise assimilated by becoming US citizens, swearing allegiance to the US and no other country, adopted the Protestant ethic of law abidingness and upward mobility still cannot stay in America by virtue of their ethnic composition, no such courtesy will be extended to you.

    Take your tainted low IQ Catholic Southern European ass back to Spain. Basque country needs you. America doesn’t.

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    Anti-white Turkish atheist jihadi, is this you again!!!??? You've changed your name a little again, small a instead of capital A. Once again, you're projecting. You know you are inferior to Caucasians/Europeans. And being a male this also has a castrating effect on you because you are inferior to Caucasian/European women. You are the little background noises who know a movement is starting. On other websites I hear that Russians are not white. Fascinating. You and Derbyshire belong together.
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    "Take your tainted low IQ Catholic Southern European ass back to Spain. Basque country " british isles including so called wasps, language notwithstanding are basque as well
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  188. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    "Smart" is overrated. There is, of course, more to life than IQ games. For instance China, in Malraux's words "civilization pretending to be a nation", has existed perhaps 1000 years more than classical Greece. But, Greeks (our cultural & intellectual ancestors) have surpassed them (and all others) in a short time.

    West begins in the Greek miracle. Not in static Egypt, nor in later, rather slow witted but efficient Rome. And what we have with old Greeks (aside from bisexuality) ?
    1. the idea of man as a rational individual, frequently at war with gods
    2. very developed abstract language which is still the source of neologisms in sciences (and sometimes arts)
    3. democracy and other forms, but always questioning the forms of government
    4. naval orientation, which helped foster expansion & questioning of dogmas
    5. not very reverent approach to the tradition
    6. population which is, although significant, not very big in numbers

    In China, we have:

    1. a civilization which is by its very nature land-oriented (although, of course, not land-locked)
    2. conservative approach inherited from the Bronze Age, a refined "enlightened despotism"
    3. general conservatism & unwillingness to search for "the new"
    4. orientation towards practical, pragmatic and disregard for the abstract, which is seen in the structure of Chinese language (see Nakamura: Ways of Thinking of Eastern Peoples)
    5. too big population- China has always been ca. 15-25% of humankind

    In sum, if we are talking about not just practical inventions, but instead of complete civilizational orientation which could create a modern world, Chinese were lacking in:
    * abstraction
    * orientation towards the future
    * expansive disposition that comes from too many factors

    Now, West is in a decadent state. Walter Laqueur has quoted Schopenhauer re this matter ( http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/interview-with-historian-walter-laqueur-on-the-decline-of-europe-a-912837.html ): The real question is: Does Europe, in its apathy, even want to play a role in global politics? Arthur Schopenhauer, the great philosopher of pessimism, said that it's easy to want, but that "wanting to want" is virtually impossible. No matter how often European values are invoked and praised, a weak will, inertia, fatigue, self-doubt and lack of self-confidence all amount to the psychological diagnosis of a weak ego.

    What is wrong with white European peoples is this lack of optimism, dynamism, orientation toward future... But, Laqueur quotes Pope at the end: Hope springs eternal.

    I am certain China (and other east Asian nations) will have great future (as it had great past). Just, their inherent weaknesses will also have shown, radically. And after all- Europeans are more creative & will remain so in a foreseeable future (if they not drown themselves with Africans & Muslims).

    Forget, for a moment, all discussions about IQ and look at statues.

    Chinese sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    Greek sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that "something" cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.

    It really all depends on your values, Bardon.

    For me, the highest flower of the human spirit is the world denying philosophy of a Chiang Tzu, who sees the world as an illusion not be taken seriously.

    The optimistic Greeks seem like children from my perspective.I

    If you are interested in civilization and accomplishment, the West is supreme. If you find those things rather childish and based on a superficial metaphysic, the frantic activity of the West seems rather silly, a much ado about nothing, by people too dumb to realize our lives are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is founded with a sleep.

    The cloud capped towers, gorgeous palaces, and solemn temples of the West cannot compensate for the loss of happiness in Western civilization, and cannot compare with Chinese civilization in the only thing that matters – happiness, which is seeing through the illusion.

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    Sorry, but this is childish & wrong. Chuang Tzu, whom I've read, had not treated world as an "illusion". His version of Daosm was poetic mysticism, but not, to use Sanskrt word, mayavist or illusionist (which was the case with some interpretations of Shankara & Madhyamika school of Mahayana Buddhism (Ch'an/Zen).

    Western world possesses all this, and much more. Among classical Greek philosophers, Heraclitus and Empedocles are spiritual summits compared with all Asian philosophers of their time; Parmenides went even further, and Plato, perhaps the most important universal mind in human history, synthesized both this-worldly & other-worldly approaches.

    Chuang Tzu and the rest, when read alongside Plato's dialogues like "Republic", "Phaedo", "Phedrus", "Parmenides" or "Symposium", seem like Vivaldi compared to Bach. Small fry.
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  189. @anon

    Basques, Brits are my kinspeople.
     
    Sorry but you have to go back too. America needs to return to its WASP origin. Your WASP blood has been tainted, and what's more since you are RCC from cradle it means the Basque blood is dominant in your genes. America was a great country until the WASPs started taking in the low IQ Catholic horde from Ireland and Southern Europe. To this day Catholic Europe is mired in corruption, immorality and economic stagnation, evidence of their lower IQ. Your Spanish blood has been tainted for centuries by the constantly invading low IQ(81) Arabs, which is why the Spanish conquistadors acted like Arabs when they came to the New World - killing indiscriminately, raping, plundering, and spreading their toxic Roman Catholic religion. The British never mixed with the natives when they conquered their land. Spaniards have no morals, like the Arabs.

    And no you do not get to exonerate yourself by excommunicating from the RCC. You cannot change your ethnic composition. Since you insist people who are otherwise assimilated by becoming US citizens, swearing allegiance to the US and no other country, adopted the Protestant ethic of law abidingness and upward mobility still cannot stay in America by virtue of their ethnic composition, no such courtesy will be extended to you.

    Take your tainted low IQ Catholic Southern European ass back to Spain. Basque country needs you. America doesn't.

    Anti-white Turkish atheist jihadi, is this you again!!!??? You’ve changed your name a little again, small a instead of capital A. Once again, you’re projecting. You know you are inferior to Caucasians/Europeans. And being a male this also has a castrating effect on you because you are inferior to Caucasian/European women. You are the little background noises who know a movement is starting. On other websites I hear that Russians are not white. Fascinating. You and Derbyshire belong together.

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    Nice red herring. We are talking about you, not about me. And no, not the same anon. I'm German-English and Lutheran.

    When was the last time Spain invented anything of substance? Never. All Spain ever gave the world was a fucked up continent, and America is still suffering the consequence of the cesspit of their creation. Stop tainting America's blood with your lower IQ inferior Southern European genes. Pack your bags and go back to Spain.
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  190. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    Asians are inferior to Caucasians.
     
    And yet, you still can't get a man, even though White Trashionalism is an ideology that is 99% male.

    That is why you are desperate for male attention, even though you have nothing that a man needs or wants.

    Heh heh heh heh

    Uh oh, Thommy bought the “Heh heh heh heh” thing back. He means business now, LOL.

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  191. Bach says:
    @Anonymous

    However, I was speaking more directly to other stereotypes, such as hypersexuality, that Asian women also play up to while superficially protesting against.
     
    The stereotype probably comes from the fact that there are countries in Asia like Thailand and Philippines that are famous for sex tourism. No other continent has countries with such reputation, although the Eastern Europeans are catching up. It also doesn't help when Asian actresses like Sandra Oh plays into that stereotype in Grey's Anatomy and that horrid movie Sideways.

    I think the Asian women who play up this stereotype are doing it out of insecurity. They probably feel like that is the only way they could out hot the white girls to get guys' attention, and are too immature to realize that kind of behavior will only draw the wrong kind of attention. They were also egged on by our rotten pop culture with shows like Sex and the City which promoted promiscuity as feminism, and thought that that was the only way to gain acceptance into a white dominant culture...by acting more like white women. What they didn't get was most white women do not act that way.

    Perhaps the one good thing that could come out of this latest PC/feminist wave is that young people will no longer feel like they need to party hard or do what they don't really want to do to gain acceptance, whether by the opposite sex or by their peers. In fact there are signs this is already happening. The Gen Z who are currently in middle school and high school might be the most conservative generation since the 1950s. The implosion of Harveywood will hopefully bring an end to the rotten excesses of the past 5 decades.

    The stereotype probably comes from the fact that there are countries in Asia like Thailand and Philippines that are famous for sex tourism.

    I think it probably appeared long before that, perhaps concomitant with colonialism and 20th century wars where the sexuality of at least a generation of young men were shaped by their experiences abroad.

    So perhaps it was in the miasma of imperialism, wars and youthful fantasies that sex tourism emerged.

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  192. Truth says:
    @Svigor

    I’m a white American guy, you fool.
     
    Nonsense. White people don't get het up over WNism the way you do. Only Jews, wogs, and other non-Whites do. Obvious shit is obvious.

    White people don’t get het up over WNism the way you do

    Dude I’m starting to think it is LYism (light yellow).

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  193. Bach says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    "Smart" is overrated. There is, of course, more to life than IQ games. For instance China, in Malraux's words "civilization pretending to be a nation", has existed perhaps 1000 years more than classical Greece. But, Greeks (our cultural & intellectual ancestors) have surpassed them (and all others) in a short time.

    West begins in the Greek miracle. Not in static Egypt, nor in later, rather slow witted but efficient Rome. And what we have with old Greeks (aside from bisexuality) ?
    1. the idea of man as a rational individual, frequently at war with gods
    2. very developed abstract language which is still the source of neologisms in sciences (and sometimes arts)
    3. democracy and other forms, but always questioning the forms of government
    4. naval orientation, which helped foster expansion & questioning of dogmas
    5. not very reverent approach to the tradition
    6. population which is, although significant, not very big in numbers

    In China, we have:

    1. a civilization which is by its very nature land-oriented (although, of course, not land-locked)
    2. conservative approach inherited from the Bronze Age, a refined "enlightened despotism"
    3. general conservatism & unwillingness to search for "the new"
    4. orientation towards practical, pragmatic and disregard for the abstract, which is seen in the structure of Chinese language (see Nakamura: Ways of Thinking of Eastern Peoples)
    5. too big population- China has always been ca. 15-25% of humankind

    In sum, if we are talking about not just practical inventions, but instead of complete civilizational orientation which could create a modern world, Chinese were lacking in:
    * abstraction
    * orientation towards the future
    * expansive disposition that comes from too many factors

    Now, West is in a decadent state. Walter Laqueur has quoted Schopenhauer re this matter ( http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/interview-with-historian-walter-laqueur-on-the-decline-of-europe-a-912837.html ): The real question is: Does Europe, in its apathy, even want to play a role in global politics? Arthur Schopenhauer, the great philosopher of pessimism, said that it's easy to want, but that "wanting to want" is virtually impossible. No matter how often European values are invoked and praised, a weak will, inertia, fatigue, self-doubt and lack of self-confidence all amount to the psychological diagnosis of a weak ego.

    What is wrong with white European peoples is this lack of optimism, dynamism, orientation toward future... But, Laqueur quotes Pope at the end: Hope springs eternal.

    I am certain China (and other east Asian nations) will have great future (as it had great past). Just, their inherent weaknesses will also have shown, radically. And after all- Europeans are more creative & will remain so in a foreseeable future (if they not drown themselves with Africans & Muslims).

    Forget, for a moment, all discussions about IQ and look at statues.

    Chinese sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    Greek sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that "something" cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.

    Chinese sculpture https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648
    Greek sculpture https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648
    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that “something” cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.

    I don’t know much about art, but how is an exact replication of observed phenomenon more creative than a transmutation of reality?

    The Chinese were doing abstract art centuries before the West.

    I think your bullet points are lots of cliches.

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    You're Korean. You have no creativeness within you. The West can do both representational and creative art. The East cannot. By the way, "Bach", try be-bim-bop for your handle.
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    There was nothing "abstract" about it, only clumsy & stereotypical. They couldn't (along with Assyrians, Indians & others) sculpt anything monumental and both impressive & beautiful (perhaps their natural physique, anti-athletic as is, played a part in it).

    But, there are deeper reasons, in my opinion, and this applies even to later Western art.

    Asians & the rest simply don't fit in our standards of physical attractiveness. OK, this is settled- at least, I think so.
    My other angle would be: other races' facial features are, more or less, stylized compared to ours. Asians & blacks simply do not have that kind of facial expressiveness (even if they're "good looking") whites are capable of.

    I noticed a long ago in the Renaissance & Baroque portraits (Titian, Rembrandt, Holbein jr., Duerer, Leonardo, Velazquez, ..)- white women & men have potentially highly expressive & noble faces, and this does not diminish with time- on the contrary. With the advent of photography & camera it became even more obvious. Both east Asians & blacks are somehow facially schematic- their faces are not nearly comparable to ours in expressing grief, joy, sadness, aristocratic hauteur, nobility, dignity, triumphant ecstasy, elation, thoughtfulness, determination- even confusion & drooling idiocy.

    They got- my rough estimate- less than 50% of our facial expressiveness and individuality. Not only east Asians, but blacks, too.


    Schematic, stereotypical, anti- individualistic, ...that's what they are. Yellow ants. Not that there is anything wrong with that, in some periods it may well be an advantage.

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  194. Truth says:
    @Brabantian
    What is perhaps being over-played here, is the assumption that the defend-European-heritage people (who indeed often have Asian girlfriends / spouses), are heavily invested in the white-racial-purity-family angle, which is really not the case ... tho it is the nature of today's pick-out-the-straw-man lefty press, to pretend that extreme views are the middle ones

    What is more the case, is that people are observing how, some cultures seem to be able to immigrate and get along quite well with a minimum of friction, conflict or criminality ... and other cultures don't ... this does not imply 'marry only your own race'

    And peope are also observing how a lot of immigration is oligarch-operated social manipulation, on the order of the 49 large-scale historical cases described in USA Pentagon advisor Kelly Greenhill's book 'Weapons of Mass Migration' ... a practice which even Karl Marx himself talked about in the 1800s, manipulated immigration as an oligarch tool to wreck, demoralise and impoverish working-class lives

    The sensible moderate 'right' is not opposed to organic, natural, freely-chosen inter-racial dating, mixing etc, which easily exists along with desire to preserve Western cultural heritage aspects honoured as valuable, such as the Enlightenment

    There is ultimately just a raw fact that Asian women are often found to be especially lovely by non-Asians, appreciated as being more particularly beautiful both in physical form, and in the cultural-marital-relationship virtues ... with sometimes a particular fondness for the special warm cultural experience of the ASEAN South-East Asian societies ... which seems to be a reality generally in that region, despite the nominally varying ASEAN religions, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim

    It is an aesthetic sentiment strong enough that some whites do wind up saying things like 'Once you partner with an Asian, you never go back to Caucasian' ... a 'fetish' thus I suppose

    I’m with you Brab. I mean, we should encourage Northern European white women to mate with rich Chinese men, there are a lot of them, and why do we need natural blonde hair anyway? The millions of resulting light yellows in Oslo can just get it from a bottle

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    You should be thanking Confucius they are not Somali and don't need hair straightener.
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  195. Truth says:
    @neutral
    The depictions of bible characters were generally white, since these were mythical characters they should be treated as such. I never once mentioned not being able to talk about other famous people from other races, I am talking about who from the past matters more. If you read sites like Unz.com then you would know that is true that white people are being erased from history in the sense that they are no longer important as much as they used to be.

    If people in China are tearing down statues of Mao and replacing it with MLK, or if they are revering the poems written by Africans more than old Chinese poets then you might have point, I am however very sure that this is not happening, and this is not happening because they are not undergoing a race replacement, should hypothetically one day China is majority Indian or perhaps African, then you cannot seriously believe that this new "Chinese" population will be talking about the past Chinese as you do now.

    The depictions of bible characters were generally white, since these were mythical characters they should be treated as such.

    “deptictions”, yes, “descriptions”, no.

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  196. @John Derbyshire
    Smarter = better? Category error: "smart" is a psychometric adjective, "good" a moral one. Joe Stalin was smarter than Warren Harding, but Harding was the better man.

    WOW!!! I ask a simple question with an obvious answer: the English are smarter, morally superior to the Chinese and you come up with Stalin (Georgian) versus Warren Harding (USA WASP)!!! (An insult to me as an American that you could even put these 2 in the same category!!!) You have Asian AIDS caused by an Asian woman and this has been transmitted to your Chinese offspring. I’m trying to keep calm as I type my response. First, for all readers of this website, this shows the worthlessness of VDare. That they would keep such a degenerate as Derbyshire on their website is beyond belief. AmRen is now compromised because they can no longer have Derbyshire as a speaker at their conferences. It fact, it is better if they get banned/boycotted because they are consorting with an enemy of Western civilization – Derbyshire. Here is the enemy, not the “Jews.” Derbyshire will scribble about illegals from Latin America, but refuses to deal with the refuse China dumps in the USA. His wife is an example of this refuse. https://www.41nbc.com/2018/01/09/baby-bust-feds-raid-california-maternity-hotels/ Derbyshire turned his back on the West when he married the Chinese woman. China has performed over 400 million abortions since the mid 1970s. It is too bad his wife was not one of these. Females are aborted the most. His children will compound these problems. The daughter and wife voted for Obama. This despite his article about having a talk with your children about blacks. His wife and daughter have castrated him. The son had problems and needed to enter the military to be straightened out. So much for the Asian tiger mother ideal. Asians and Middle East Muslims are the majority of shooters in the USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjp_qtCgEas

    I commented before that Derbyshire could have redeemed himself if his Chinese family would make a speech at AmRen acknowledging the superiority of the West over the East and that they were grateful for the chance at being in the West. We now see that this will never occur and this is because of Derbyshire.

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    I’m trying to keep calm as I type my response.
     
    literally shaking
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    "English are smarter, morally superior to the Chinese" i am having a good laugh over this comment, how can a small brained people be better than a bigger brained race ,damn basque people have possibly killed a billion or possibly more,you call this morally superior, inferior bad immune system you heshe.
    , @Anonymous
    You should move to Eastern Europe, like Poland. They are into racial purity there. It's too late for America. You can't chase away 100m people. You're wasting your breath.
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  197. Truth says:
    @biz
    I thought the position around here was that Jews were completely de-racinated fake Kahazar converts. Now you're telling me they've maintained racial purity for 2500 years? I can't keep up.

    Unfortunately I used up my “LOL” already.

    No, people here are (generally) much too stupid to know anything about the Khazars.

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  198. @Bardon Kaldian
    "Smart" is overrated. There is, of course, more to life than IQ games. For instance China, in Malraux's words "civilization pretending to be a nation", has existed perhaps 1000 years more than classical Greece. But, Greeks (our cultural & intellectual ancestors) have surpassed them (and all others) in a short time.

    West begins in the Greek miracle. Not in static Egypt, nor in later, rather slow witted but efficient Rome. And what we have with old Greeks (aside from bisexuality) ?
    1. the idea of man as a rational individual, frequently at war with gods
    2. very developed abstract language which is still the source of neologisms in sciences (and sometimes arts)
    3. democracy and other forms, but always questioning the forms of government
    4. naval orientation, which helped foster expansion & questioning of dogmas
    5. not very reverent approach to the tradition
    6. population which is, although significant, not very big in numbers

    In China, we have:

    1. a civilization which is by its very nature land-oriented (although, of course, not land-locked)
    2. conservative approach inherited from the Bronze Age, a refined "enlightened despotism"
    3. general conservatism & unwillingness to search for "the new"
    4. orientation towards practical, pragmatic and disregard for the abstract, which is seen in the structure of Chinese language (see Nakamura: Ways of Thinking of Eastern Peoples)
    5. too big population- China has always been ca. 15-25% of humankind

    In sum, if we are talking about not just practical inventions, but instead of complete civilizational orientation which could create a modern world, Chinese were lacking in:
    * abstraction
    * orientation towards the future
    * expansive disposition that comes from too many factors

    Now, West is in a decadent state. Walter Laqueur has quoted Schopenhauer re this matter ( http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/interview-with-historian-walter-laqueur-on-the-decline-of-europe-a-912837.html ): The real question is: Does Europe, in its apathy, even want to play a role in global politics? Arthur Schopenhauer, the great philosopher of pessimism, said that it's easy to want, but that "wanting to want" is virtually impossible. No matter how often European values are invoked and praised, a weak will, inertia, fatigue, self-doubt and lack of self-confidence all amount to the psychological diagnosis of a weak ego.

    What is wrong with white European peoples is this lack of optimism, dynamism, orientation toward future... But, Laqueur quotes Pope at the end: Hope springs eternal.

    I am certain China (and other east Asian nations) will have great future (as it had great past). Just, their inherent weaknesses will also have shown, radically. And after all- Europeans are more creative & will remain so in a foreseeable future (if they not drown themselves with Africans & Muslims).

    Forget, for a moment, all discussions about IQ and look at statues.

    Chinese sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    Greek sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that "something" cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.

    Exactly. The West (Caucasian/European) is superior to the inferior East (Asian). Derbyshire has gone native.

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    Exactly. The West (Caucasian/European) is superior to the inferior East (Asian).
     
    I think you're overly preoccupied with superior and inferior.

    Just mind your own house.
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  199. @Bach

    Chinese sculpture https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648
    Greek sculpture https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648
    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that “something” cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.
     
    I don't know much about art, but how is an exact replication of observed phenomenon more creative than a transmutation of reality?

    The Chinese were doing abstract art centuries before the West.

    I think your bullet points are lots of cliches.

    You’re Korean. You have no creativeness within you. The West can do both representational and creative art. The East cannot. By the way, “Bach”, try be-bim-bop for your handle.

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    You’re Korean. You have no creativeness within you.
     
    LOL. Maybe you should ease up.

    By the way, “Bach”, try be-bim-bop for your handle.
     
    I'll change mine if you change yours to Hamburger.
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  200. @Daniel Chieh

    Your desire of having a non white Europe still remain”European” (according to your definition) will never come to fruition, the new non white populations will not care about dead white men such Aristotle, Caesar, Napoleon, etc.
     
    The Catholic Church seemed to care a lot about Moses and King David even though they were not European. Conversely, various European philosophers and scientists make significant appearances in East Asian media and education:

    https://www.thechinastory.org/2015/10/carl-schmitt-in-china/

    The ability to derive worthwhile ideas from various sources regardless of their specific ethnicity seems to be useful.

    Moses, King David, Jesus were Caucasian, still white.

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    Moses, King David, Jesus were Caucasian, still white.
     
    The definition of white seems ever conveniently fluid.

    Then I guess the Islamic migration is nothing to get upset over. They're white. They can be assimilated.
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  201. Truth says:
    @whorefinder
    Perhaps the reason is that Asian girlfriends and Asian culture are the gateway for white men to the Alt-Right/Red pill on race.

    White men are brought up in a culture that tells them they are evil and that racism is bad, mmkay. But they are also taught that minority cultures---which are defined as all non-white cultures---are oppressed and yet equal to (or superior to) white cultures. So they are supposed to "respect" other cultures, and learn about them.

    What is more, many young teenage boys are interested in self-defense/fighting for obvious hormonal reasons and the sudden shift in high school where some boys suddenly become much larger and more violent than you. The martial arts of the far east hold an allure, especially since western martial arts, such as boxing and wrestling, aren't promoted as "mysterious" and "deep and spiritual" as eastern ones are.

    As a result, many young white men get interested in the Far East, perhaps through martial arts training. And later on, if they have an interest in non-white cultures naturally, they turn to study Far Eastern cultures. If they ever make a trip abroad at this time, they will note how Far Eastern nations are openly "racist" in favor of their own race/ethnicity, proud of their own ethnicity, and often say harmless "racist" things to foreigners that both seem truthful and yet are verboten back in America.

    Suddenly, the truth about race comes into view.

    And then there are the women. Black women are always the bottom of the barrel. White women are career oriented. Asian women, however, are usually much thinner on average and have been taught by their traditional homes about race. And Asian women, if they do stray, often get severe white-guy fever. The result is that a white guy is exposed to a household and girl who would never date a black and who herself and her family say all sorts of racist things about people, even other Asians.

    Suddenly, the truth about race comes into view.

    The martial arts of the far east hold an allure, especially since western martial arts, such as boxing and wrestling, aren’t promoted as “mysterious” and “deep and spiritual” as eastern ones are.

    As a result, many young white men get interested in the Far East, perhaps through martial arts training.

    1972 called, Sport. It said to stop plagiarizing.

    The result is that a white guy is exposed to a household and girl who would never date a black

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    lol. I'm sorry the truth hurts you so much, little Media Matters worker.

    Do keep trying to deny it. It's amusing to watch you fail.
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  202. Truth says:
    @Tulip
    Here is a nice root article on Asian racism:

    https://www.theroot.com/racism-in-asian-countries-and-fear-of-the-black-male-1790855705

    Note that the reason Asians hate blacks in South East Asia is because the whites working for the US military taught them to hate blacks. Pretty powerful that hateful honkeys could poison a continent.

    Now that’s a GREAT article.

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    Only quality can compete with quality!
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  203. Truth says:
    @attilathehen
    Here are obesity figures for Asia: https://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/20170622/Tech-Science/Obesity-in-Asia-reaches-epidemic-level

    You are Chinese and have a white wife and Chinese offspring. I believe you live in Canada, still a Western nation. How's her weight doing?

    The USA is Western. You are not. If you live in the West, isolate yourself and Chinese family to China.

    Dang it! I used my LOL WAY to early in this thread. I might have to come back in an hour.

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  204. Truth says:
    @Anonymous
    One strange thing I've noticed is, white guys who marry East Asian women tend to be conservative, while white guys who marry Indian women tend to be liberal.

    From what I've seen, Indians are far more liberal than East Asians. A lot of Indian women in particular are campus SJWs and active left wing advocates.

    Piyush “Bobby Brady” Jindal and Nicholas “pretend my name is Nikki” Haley disagree.

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  205. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    Which just goes to show how creepy and weird you are; you openly admit to being obsessed with and following around WNs, who you loathe and claim are the scum of the Earth.
     
    You are projecting. I see WNs as vermin to be eradicated, just as one would want to eradicate rats.

    You just can't get over the fact that the other 80% of whites see you as complete trash (which you are). That is why we call you White Trashionalists. I have explained the science behind why you comprise of the genetic waste matter that the better part of the white race wants to expunge, but your IQ is too low to grasp it. That is why your grammar is worse than a third-grader's.

    Get off my lawn, faggot.

    Get off my lawn, faggot.

    LMFAO!

    Hey Thom, I do not discount the possibility of being, wrong, maybe the white guys here are correct and you are really an Indian, and I have been duped,maybe they know better than I do, but I have seen nothing in any of your posts that screams anything other than “Middle Class White Guy.”

    heh heh heh heh.

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    but I have seen nothing in any of your posts that screams anything other than “Middle Class White Guy.”
     
    Of course I am a white guy. Quite a bit above middle class, though.

    That is why I am able to see how skillfully Ron Unz is sowing division and confusion among WN losers, while simultaneously profiting from them. His total manipulation of them is impressive.

    Although I would be even more impressed if he managed to profit from fat bluehaired feminists, who are the female counterparts of WN incel males.

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  206. @Truth
    I'm with you Brab. I mean, we should encourage Northern European white women to mate with rich Chinese men, there are a lot of them, and why do we need natural blonde hair anyway? The millions of resulting light yellows in Oslo can just get it from a bottle

    You should be thanking Confucius they are not Somali and don’t need hair straightener.

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    Well, I guess, if youre ona those "lesser of two evils" sorta Blokes.
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  207. Truth says:
    @John Derbyshire
    Smarter = better? Category error: "smart" is a psychometric adjective, "good" a moral one. Joe Stalin was smarter than Warren Harding, but Harding was the better man.

    Hey Derb, I think you have to conceed the “Fraidy Cat of Jews” thing. Attila nailed you there.

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  208. Truth says:

    Ladies and Gentleman, thank you again, I had to close my office door I was laughing so hard at this thread.

    Sometimes I wonder if there is anyone here who finds this site as funny as I do. I’ve tried to introduce other black people, to the wonderful world of the Unzista, they just don’t get the humor; maybe it’s the IQ.

    Strangely enough though I don’t think you get the humor either. I get the feeling that the commenters on this site actually take it seriously or something. The hand-wringing articles over white women hooking up with knee-grows were funny, but the light-yellow amalgamtion thing blows them away.

    Anyway in my tenure here has LITERALLY gotten me off sitcoms because they just aren’t nearly as funny as the universe you people inhabit. I simply don’t see anything on TV that compares with the humor found on Unz.com.

    Cheers to all and hope everyone has an excellent 2018. And Mr. Ron Unz, thank you.

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    You are right about sitcoms. Nothing on tv compares to the comments sections of this and many other websites. Happy New Year to you.
    , @Lars Porsena
    I find it quite hilarious. I'm glad you have a sense of humor.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Reality itself has gotten increasing funsize-mirrored as of late.
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  209. @Truth
    Ladies and Gentleman, thank you again, I had to close my office door I was laughing so hard at this thread.

    Sometimes I wonder if there is anyone here who finds this site as funny as I do. I've tried to introduce other black people, to the wonderful world of the Unzista, they just don't get the humor; maybe it's the IQ.

    Strangely enough though I don't think you get the humor either. I get the feeling that the commenters on this site actually take it seriously or something. The hand-wringing articles over white women hooking up with knee-grows were funny, but the light-yellow amalgamtion thing blows them away.

    Anyway in my tenure here has LITERALLY gotten me off sitcoms because they just aren't nearly as funny as the universe you people inhabit. I simply don't see anything on TV that compares with the humor found on Unz.com.

    Cheers to all and hope everyone has an excellent 2018. And Mr. Ron Unz, thank you.

    You are right about sitcoms. Nothing on tv compares to the comments sections of this and many other websites. Happy New Year to you.

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  210. Truth says:
    @Lars Porsena
    You should be thanking Confucius they are not Somali and don't need hair straightener.

    Well, I guess, if youre ona those “lesser of two evils” sorta Blokes.

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  211. @Truth
    Ladies and Gentleman, thank you again, I had to close my office door I was laughing so hard at this thread.

    Sometimes I wonder if there is anyone here who finds this site as funny as I do. I've tried to introduce other black people, to the wonderful world of the Unzista, they just don't get the humor; maybe it's the IQ.

    Strangely enough though I don't think you get the humor either. I get the feeling that the commenters on this site actually take it seriously or something. The hand-wringing articles over white women hooking up with knee-grows were funny, but the light-yellow amalgamtion thing blows them away.

    Anyway in my tenure here has LITERALLY gotten me off sitcoms because they just aren't nearly as funny as the universe you people inhabit. I simply don't see anything on TV that compares with the humor found on Unz.com.

    Cheers to all and hope everyone has an excellent 2018. And Mr. Ron Unz, thank you.

    I find it quite hilarious. I’m glad you have a sense of humor.

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  212. @attilathehen
    WOW!!! I ask a simple question with an obvious answer: the English are smarter, morally superior to the Chinese and you come up with Stalin (Georgian) versus Warren Harding (USA WASP)!!! (An insult to me as an American that you could even put these 2 in the same category!!!) You have Asian AIDS caused by an Asian woman and this has been transmitted to your Chinese offspring. I'm trying to keep calm as I type my response. First, for all readers of this website, this shows the worthlessness of VDare. That they would keep such a degenerate as Derbyshire on their website is beyond belief. AmRen is now compromised because they can no longer have Derbyshire as a speaker at their conferences. It fact, it is better if they get banned/boycotted because they are consorting with an enemy of Western civilization - Derbyshire. Here is the enemy, not the "Jews." Derbyshire will scribble about illegals from Latin America, but refuses to deal with the refuse China dumps in the USA. His wife is an example of this refuse. https://www.41nbc.com/2018/01/09/baby-bust-feds-raid-california-maternity-hotels/ Derbyshire turned his back on the West when he married the Chinese woman. China has performed over 400 million abortions since the mid 1970s. It is too bad his wife was not one of these. Females are aborted the most. His children will compound these problems. The daughter and wife voted for Obama. This despite his article about having a talk with your children about blacks. His wife and daughter have castrated him. The son had problems and needed to enter the military to be straightened out. So much for the Asian tiger mother ideal. Asians and Middle East Muslims are the majority of shooters in the USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjp_qtCgEas

    I commented before that Derbyshire could have redeemed himself if his Chinese family would make a speech at AmRen acknowledging the superiority of the West over the East and that they were grateful for the chance at being in the West. We now see that this will never occur and this is because of Derbyshire.

    I’m trying to keep calm as I type my response.

    literally shaking

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    First, you weren't going to respond to me. Next, in another comment you mentioned to another commentator your wife's pregnancy and weight gain. Your wife was a pre and will be a post pregnancy porker. You should literally shake about your worthless family.
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  213. @Bach

    Chinese sculpture https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648
    Greek sculpture https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648
    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that “something” cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.
     
    I don't know much about art, but how is an exact replication of observed phenomenon more creative than a transmutation of reality?

    The Chinese were doing abstract art centuries before the West.

    I think your bullet points are lots of cliches.

    There was nothing “abstract” about it, only clumsy & stereotypical. They couldn’t (along with Assyrians, Indians & others) sculpt anything monumental and both impressive & beautiful (perhaps their natural physique, anti-athletic as is, played a part in it).

    But, there are deeper reasons, in my opinion, and this applies even to later Western art.

    Asians & the rest simply don’t fit in our standards of physical attractiveness. OK, this is settled- at least, I think so.
    My other angle would be: other races’ facial features are, more or less, stylized compared to ours. Asians & blacks simply do not have that kind of facial expressiveness (even if they’re “good looking”) whites are capable of.

    I noticed a long ago in the Renaissance & Baroque portraits (Titian, Rembrandt, Holbein jr., Duerer, Leonardo, Velazquez, ..)- white women & men have potentially highly expressive & noble faces, and this does not diminish with time- on the contrary. With the advent of photography & camera it became even more obvious. Both east Asians & blacks are somehow facially schematic- their faces are not nearly comparable to ours in expressing grief, joy, sadness, aristocratic hauteur, nobility, dignity, triumphant ecstasy, elation, thoughtfulness, determination- even confusion & drooling idiocy.

    They got- my rough estimate- less than 50% of our facial expressiveness and individuality. Not only east Asians, but blacks, too.

    Schematic, stereotypical, anti- individualistic, …that’s what they are. Yellow ants. Not that there is anything wrong with that, in some periods it may well be an advantage.

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    There was nothing “abstract” about it, only clumsy & stereotypical.
     
    Again, I'm hardly qualified, but stuff like this looks abstract to me:

    https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/hb/hb_1993.255.jpg
    http://chinesecalligraphy.weebly.com/uploads/7/2/5/6/7256592/5878717_orig.jpg
    http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v1/680914406_1/Traditional-Chinese-ink-and-wash-paintings-Poetic-Landscape-100-hand-painted-180-70cm-free-shipping.jpg
    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/6f/37/23/6f3723521e8277332821d5cc4432f419.jpg
    http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/Celadon.jpg
    http://zenpaintings.com/images/taiko-daruma.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Mandala_of_Vajradhatu.JPG

    Of course, it requires a certain aesthetics and awareness of culture/philosophy to appreciate.


    Asians & the rest simply don’t fit in our standards of physical attractiveness. OK, this is settled- at least, I think so.
     
    It's not settled.

    They got- my rough estimate- less than 50% of our facial expressiveness and individuality... that’s what they are. Yellow ants.
     
    What's sad is you really believe that whites are more "human". You feel more pain. More joy. More empathy. More compassion. More love. And you're not alone. The dehumanizing racism among people like you goes deep. And you don't feel any shame or philosophical incongruence because your ethics/worldview somehow allow for it.
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  214. @Truth
    Ladies and Gentleman, thank you again, I had to close my office door I was laughing so hard at this thread.

    Sometimes I wonder if there is anyone here who finds this site as funny as I do. I've tried to introduce other black people, to the wonderful world of the Unzista, they just don't get the humor; maybe it's the IQ.

    Strangely enough though I don't think you get the humor either. I get the feeling that the commenters on this site actually take it seriously or something. The hand-wringing articles over white women hooking up with knee-grows were funny, but the light-yellow amalgamtion thing blows them away.

    Anyway in my tenure here has LITERALLY gotten me off sitcoms because they just aren't nearly as funny as the universe you people inhabit. I simply don't see anything on TV that compares with the humor found on Unz.com.

    Cheers to all and hope everyone has an excellent 2018. And Mr. Ron Unz, thank you.

    Reality itself has gotten increasing funsize-mirrored as of late.

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  215. Thomm says:
    @Truth

    Get off my lawn, faggot.
     
    LMFAO!

    Hey Thom, I do not discount the possibility of being, wrong, maybe the white guys here are correct and you are really an Indian, and I have been duped,maybe they know better than I do, but I have seen nothing in any of your posts that screams anything other than "Middle Class White Guy."

    heh heh heh heh.

    but I have seen nothing in any of your posts that screams anything other than “Middle Class White Guy.”

    Of course I am a white guy. Quite a bit above middle class, though.

    That is why I am able to see how skillfully Ron Unz is sowing division and confusion among WN losers, while simultaneously profiting from them. His total manipulation of them is impressive.

    Although I would be even more impressed if he managed to profit from fat bluehaired feminists, who are the female counterparts of WN incel males.

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    Thomm, you're a Hindu Indian, heh heh heh.

    These WNs like Derbyshire or Radical Center have Asian wives and families. We have seen from Derbyshire's degenerate comments that he is not a WN. This actually exposes outfits like VDare and AmRen and puts the focus on them. I'm sure Unz will be blamed because he's Jewish, but as I have pointed out before the Jews are a minor problem compared to someone like a Derbyshire.

    Also, it exposes Asian males like Chieh and Bach who believe they are equal to Caucasians and a part of the West. They are not.

    Your strange obsession with WN females not being attractive or something is again a reflection and projection from you.

    , @anon

    That is why I am able to see how skillfully Ron Unz is sowing division and confusion among WN losers, while simultaneously profiting from them. His total manipulation of them is impressive.
     
    How exactly is Ron Unz profiting from this website? It looks like a net financial drain to me. There aren't a lot of advertising. I don't even know how many unique visitors they attract per month. For Breitbart it's something like 10-15m a month but Breitbart is a Zionist rag pretending to be nationalist. It's a good thing Ron Unz is a billionaire. We need more true patriots like him.
    , @Eagle Eye

    Of course I am a white guy. Quite a bit above middle class, though.
     
    Methinks the gentleman doeth protest too much.

    Somebody here is obviously working to sow dissension, but it's not Mr. Unz.

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  216. @AaronB
    It really all depends on your values, Bardon.

    For me, the highest flower of the human spirit is the world denying philosophy of a Chiang Tzu, who sees the world as an illusion not be taken seriously.

    The optimistic Greeks seem like children from my perspective.I

    If you are interested in civilization and accomplishment, the West is supreme. If you find those things rather childish and based on a superficial metaphysic, the frantic activity of the West seems rather silly, a much ado about nothing, by people too dumb to realize our lives are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is founded with a sleep.

    The cloud capped towers, gorgeous palaces, and solemn temples of the West cannot compensate for the loss of happiness in Western civilization, and cannot compare with Chinese civilization in the only thing that matters - happiness, which is seeing through the illusion.

    Sorry, but this is childish & wrong. Chuang Tzu, whom I’ve read, had not treated world as an “illusion”. His version of Daosm was poetic mysticism, but not, to use Sanskrt word, mayavist or illusionist (which was the case with some interpretations of Shankara & Madhyamika school of Mahayana Buddhism (Ch’an/Zen).

    Western world possesses all this, and much more. Among classical Greek philosophers, Heraclitus and Empedocles are spiritual summits compared with all Asian philosophers of their time; Parmenides went even further, and Plato, perhaps the most important universal mind in human history, synthesized both this-worldly & other-worldly approaches.

    Chuang Tzu and the rest, when read alongside Plato’s dialogues like “Republic”, “Phaedo”, “Phedrus”, “Parmenides” or “Symposium”, seem like Vivaldi compared to Bach. Small fry.

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    Oh, I rather think he did. His famous line about the butterfly suggests our world is not quite real, or we can't know if if is. It's in line with Madhyamika philosophy, which blended with it seamlessly to form Chan/Zen. Taoism prepared the way for the acceptance of Mahayana Buddhism in China.

    And all "mysticism" implies that the world of our senses is an illusion and ultimate reality cannot be grasped by our minds, and is quite different from what we see. Mystery derives from a Greek word meaning unknowable in principle, and not merely unknown by us now.

    You are quite correct that all this exists in the West. Not just with Empedocles and Heraclitus but especially Pythagoras and his Brotherhood, Proclus, Plotinus and other Neoplatonists which became the basis for the Christisn mystical tradition, starting with Dionysius Aereopagita, continuing with Scotus Erigena and culminating with Meister Eckhardt, Ruysbroek, and the Theologica Germanica, and being rediscovered by the Romantics, Blake, Wordsworth, Coleridge, etc, and finally issuing in the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer. Oh, and of course the early Gnostic and their epigones the Cathari.

    In fact, it is the Perennial Tradition.I don't believe in any essential cleavage between East and West, but merely between modernity and non modernity. Before around 1450 the West was essentially like the East.

    My strictures apply solely to modern Western culture - you can't compare that to traditional Chinese culture as they were trying to do two completely different things. Build up the world, and escape it.

    I believe negating and escaping the world is the way to happiness, and modern culture fundamentally misconcieved. So naturally I don't agree with you that modern Western culture is superior, as it is based on taking the physical world seriously and building it up, which is both stupid, based on illusion, and unproductive of happiness.

    As for pre modern Europe, I don't think the Perennial Philosophy found more brilliant expression there than in Asia. I think the outstanding expressions of this sensibility and world view ate Chuang Tzu and other Asian thinkers, especially Indian thinkers on the Mahayana.

    But perhaps we should not make too much of this. Only, this idea that the West is superior depends on modernity - if you think modernity is superficial and stupid, you won't agree.

    And as for your point about the impassivity of Asian faces, that's cultivated. Dispassion and equanimity are admired in Buddhist cultures, as they once were in the West.

    Check out Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics and his discussion of the "Great Man" - such a man is supposed to be impassive and dispassionate, like the Asian ideal.

    It's only modern Western culture that has become lachrymose and "expressive".

    But in the end, Bardon, forget about competiveness.

    It isn't east or west bit modern and pre modern. And pre modern, east and west are essentially equal.

    Claims for Western superiority rest entirely on modernity, and ones attitude to modernity here is the decisive factor in whether you find that compelling.

    I don't.

    And what's childish? I think modern western materialism and realism is childish. It's sn epithet, nothing more.

    , @Bach

    Western world possesses all this, and much more... Parmenides went even further
     
    What in Parmenides suggests he came anything close to Buddhist philosophy?

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Parmenides-Greek-philosopher
    Parmenides held that the multiplicity of existing things, their changing forms and motion, are but an appearance of a single eternal reality (“Being”), thus giving rise to the Parmenidean principle that “all is one.” From this concept of Being, he went on to say that all claims of change or of non-Being are illogical. Because he introduced the method of basing claims about appearances on a logical concept of Being, he is considered one of the founders of metaphysics. Plato’s dialogue the Parmenides deals with his thought.

    https://www.ancient.eu/Parmenides/
    Parmenides' claim of a single substance comprising all of reality.
    Parmenides' main point, however, was simply that nothing could come from nothing and that `being' must have always existed.


    This probably does injustice to the philosopher, but it sounds like "monism".

    Mahayana philosophy is the pinnacle of Asian thought and achievement. I don't think Parmenides or any European thinker came anywhere close.

    and Plato, perhaps the most important universal mind in human history, synthesized both this-worldly & other-worldly approaches.
     
    Maybe Western history, but not human history.
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  217. @Daniel Chieh

    I’m trying to keep calm as I type my response.
     
    literally shaking

    First, you weren’t going to respond to me. Next, in another comment you mentioned to another commentator your wife’s pregnancy and weight gain. Your wife was a pre and will be a post pregnancy porker. You should literally shake about your worthless family.

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    Its a vice to mock the mentally challenged too much, but occasionally it is just much too fun.
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  218. @attilathehen
    First, you weren't going to respond to me. Next, in another comment you mentioned to another commentator your wife's pregnancy and weight gain. Your wife was a pre and will be a post pregnancy porker. You should literally shake about your worthless family.

    Its a vice to mock the mentally challenged too much, but occasionally it is just much too fun.

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    The inscrutable Asian mind cannot deal with facts and they are not known for their humor.
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  219. @Anoynymous
    This is true, but you are looking at whites as a whole, not a cherry picked sample of high-achieving minorities who've had the drive/capability to escape their own homelands.

    Go to any other nation and look at the average man/woman on the street. The working classes and underclasses of Asia aren't going to win any beauty contests either.

    “The working classes and underclasses of Asia aren’t going to win any beauty contests either.”

    Nonsense. The average female cashier at a 7-11 in Japan is a cutie-pie 7-8. Eye candy everywhere.

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    Are you married to an Asian? This is why your eyes can't see straight.
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  220. Truth says:

    Hey guys, in my altruistic hope of furthering the LightYellow Agenda2025, please assist me and fowrard this how-to article this out to your daughters, sisters and female colleagues:

    http://www.languageboat.com/?p=4208

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  221. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    Sorry, but this is childish & wrong. Chuang Tzu, whom I've read, had not treated world as an "illusion". His version of Daosm was poetic mysticism, but not, to use Sanskrt word, mayavist or illusionist (which was the case with some interpretations of Shankara & Madhyamika school of Mahayana Buddhism (Ch'an/Zen).

    Western world possesses all this, and much more. Among classical Greek philosophers, Heraclitus and Empedocles are spiritual summits compared with all Asian philosophers of their time; Parmenides went even further, and Plato, perhaps the most important universal mind in human history, synthesized both this-worldly & other-worldly approaches.

    Chuang Tzu and the rest, when read alongside Plato's dialogues like "Republic", "Phaedo", "Phedrus", "Parmenides" or "Symposium", seem like Vivaldi compared to Bach. Small fry.

    Oh, I rather think he did. His famous line about the butterfly suggests our world is not quite real, or we can’t know if if is. It’s in line with Madhyamika philosophy, which blended with it seamlessly to form Chan/Zen. Taoism prepared the way for the acceptance of Mahayana Buddhism in China.

    And all “mysticism” implies that the world of our senses is an illusion and ultimate reality cannot be grasped by our minds, and is quite different from what we see. Mystery derives from a Greek word meaning unknowable in principle, and not merely unknown by us now.

    You are quite correct that all this exists in the West. Not just with Empedocles and Heraclitus but especially Pythagoras and his Brotherhood, Proclus, Plotinus and other Neoplatonists which became the basis for the Christisn mystical tradition, starting with Dionysius Aereopagita, continuing with Scotus Erigena and culminating with Meister Eckhardt, Ruysbroek, and the Theologica Germanica, and being rediscovered by the Romantics, Blake, Wordsworth, Coleridge, etc, and finally issuing in the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer. Oh, and of course the early Gnostic and their epigones the Cathari.

    In fact, it is the Perennial Tradition.I don’t believe in any essential cleavage between East and West, but merely between modernity and non modernity. Before around 1450 the West was essentially like the East.

    My strictures apply solely to modern Western culture – you can’t compare that to traditional Chinese culture as they were trying to do two completely different things. Build up the world, and escape it.

    I believe negating and escaping the world is the way to happiness, and modern culture fundamentally misconcieved. So naturally I don’t agree with you that modern Western culture is superior, as it is based on taking the physical world seriously and building it up, which is both stupid, based on illusion, and unproductive of happiness.

    As for pre modern Europe, I don’t think the Perennial Philosophy found more brilliant expression there than in Asia. I think the outstanding expressions of this sensibility and world view ate Chuang Tzu and other Asian thinkers, especially Indian thinkers on the Mahayana.

    But perhaps we should not make too much of this. Only, this idea that the West is superior depends on modernity – if you think modernity is superficial and stupid, you won’t agree.

    And as for your point about the impassivity of Asian faces, that’s cultivated. Dispassion and equanimity are admired in Buddhist cultures, as they once were in the West.

    Check out Aristotle’s Nichomachean Ethics and his discussion of the “Great Man” – such a man is supposed to be impassive and dispassionate, like the Asian ideal.

    It’s only modern Western culture that has become lachrymose and “expressive”.

    But in the end, Bardon, forget about competiveness.

    It isn’t east or west bit modern and pre modern. And pre modern, east and west are essentially equal.

    Claims for Western superiority rest entirely on modernity, and ones attitude to modernity here is the decisive factor in whether you find that compelling.

    I don’t.

    And what’s childish? I think modern western materialism and realism is childish. It’s sn epithet, nothing more.

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    You are quite correct that all this exists in the West. Not just with Empedocles and Heraclitus but especially Pythagoras and his Brotherhood, Proclus, Plotinus and other Neoplatonists which became the basis for the Christisn mystical tradition, starting with Dionysius Aereopagita, continuing with Scotus Erigena and culminating with Meister Eckhardt, Ruysbroek, and the Theologica Germanica, and being rediscovered by the Romantics, Blake, Wordsworth, Coleridge, etc, and finally issuing in the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer. Oh, and of course the early Gnostic and their epigones the Cathari.
     
    Awakening was experienced by people from every continent from time immemorial, but philosophically, I don't think they quite got it down like the Indians/Asians.
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  222. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    You're Korean. You have no creativeness within you. The West can do both representational and creative art. The East cannot. By the way, "Bach", try be-bim-bop for your handle.

    You’re Korean. You have no creativeness within you.

    LOL. Maybe you should ease up.

    By the way, “Bach”, try be-bim-bop for your handle.

    I’ll change mine if you change yours to Hamburger.

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    I’ll change mine if you change yours to Hamburger.
     
    More like Tapas. She's a Spanish Roman Catholic.
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  223. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    Exactly. The West (Caucasian/European) is superior to the inferior East (Asian). Derbyshire has gone native.

    Exactly. The West (Caucasian/European) is superior to the inferior East (Asian).

    I think you’re overly preoccupied with superior and inferior.

    Just mind your own house.

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  224. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    Moses, King David, Jesus were Caucasian, still white.

    Moses, King David, Jesus were Caucasian, still white.

    The definition of white seems ever conveniently fluid.

    Then I guess the Islamic migration is nothing to get upset over. They’re white. They can be assimilated.

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    You're Korean so I'll have to give you a Western history lesson.

    First, the people of North Africa and the Middle East before Islam took over in the 11th century were Caucasians. The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. St. Augustine is a Caucasian. The mosaics and frescoes of that period show Caucasian, white people.

    Today's North Africans are mostly black. When Islam took over North Africa it brought black slavery and through polygamy and concubinage destroyed the original peoples. So today's Muslims invaders are black.

    Just a reminder, these Muslims cannot assimilate, but neither can you.
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  225. Bach says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    There was nothing "abstract" about it, only clumsy & stereotypical. They couldn't (along with Assyrians, Indians & others) sculpt anything monumental and both impressive & beautiful (perhaps their natural physique, anti-athletic as is, played a part in it).

    But, there are deeper reasons, in my opinion, and this applies even to later Western art.

    Asians & the rest simply don't fit in our standards of physical attractiveness. OK, this is settled- at least, I think so.
    My other angle would be: other races' facial features are, more or less, stylized compared to ours. Asians & blacks simply do not have that kind of facial expressiveness (even if they're "good looking") whites are capable of.

    I noticed a long ago in the Renaissance & Baroque portraits (Titian, Rembrandt, Holbein jr., Duerer, Leonardo, Velazquez, ..)- white women & men have potentially highly expressive & noble faces, and this does not diminish with time- on the contrary. With the advent of photography & camera it became even more obvious. Both east Asians & blacks are somehow facially schematic- their faces are not nearly comparable to ours in expressing grief, joy, sadness, aristocratic hauteur, nobility, dignity, triumphant ecstasy, elation, thoughtfulness, determination- even confusion & drooling idiocy.

    They got- my rough estimate- less than 50% of our facial expressiveness and individuality. Not only east Asians, but blacks, too.


    Schematic, stereotypical, anti- individualistic, ...that's what they are. Yellow ants. Not that there is anything wrong with that, in some periods it may well be an advantage.

    There was nothing “abstract” about it, only clumsy & stereotypical.

    Again, I’m hardly qualified, but stuff like this looks abstract to me:

    [MORE]
    http://chinesecalligraphy.weebly.com/uploads/7/2/5/6/7256592/5878717_orig.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/736x/6f/37/23/6f3723521e8277332821d5cc4432f419.jpghttp://zenpaintings.com/images/taiko-daruma.jpg
    Of course, it requires a certain aesthetics and awareness of culture/philosophy to appreciate.

    Asians & the rest simply don’t fit in our standards of physical attractiveness. OK, this is settled- at least, I think so.

    It’s not settled.

    They got- my rough estimate- less than 50% of our facial expressiveness and individuality… that’s what they are. Yellow ants.

    What’s sad is you really believe that whites are more “human”. You feel more pain. More joy. More empathy. More compassion. More love. And you’re not alone. The dehumanizing racism among people like you goes deep. And you don’t feel any shame or philosophical incongruence because your ethics/worldview somehow allow for it.

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  226. @Daniel Chieh
    Its a vice to mock the mentally challenged too much, but occasionally it is just much too fun.

    The inscrutable Asian mind cannot deal with facts and they are not known for their humor.

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  227. @White Guy In Japan
    "The working classes and underclasses of Asia aren’t going to win any beauty contests either."

    Nonsense. The average female cashier at a 7-11 in Japan is a cutie-pie 7-8. Eye candy everywhere.

    Are you married to an Asian? This is why your eyes can’t see straight.

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  228. @Bach

    Moses, King David, Jesus were Caucasian, still white.
     
    The definition of white seems ever conveniently fluid.

    Then I guess the Islamic migration is nothing to get upset over. They're white. They can be assimilated.

    You’re Korean so I’ll have to give you a Western history lesson.

    First, the people of North Africa and the Middle East before Islam took over in the 11th century were Caucasians. The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. St. Augustine is a Caucasian. The mosaics and frescoes of that period show Caucasian, white people.

    Today’s North Africans are mostly black. When Islam took over North Africa it brought black slavery and through polygamy and concubinage destroyed the original peoples. So today’s Muslims invaders are black.

    Just a reminder, these Muslims cannot assimilate, but neither can you.

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    Today’s North Africans are mostly black. When Islam took over North Africa it brought black slavery and through polygamy and concubinage destroyed the original peoples. So today’s Muslims invaders are black.
     
    So, all "Caucasians" are by definition white, including S. Asians and Semites?

    But through admixture, modern Arabs and Muslims became black? Syrians are black? Palestinians are black?
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  229. Bach says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    Sorry, but this is childish & wrong. Chuang Tzu, whom I've read, had not treated world as an "illusion". His version of Daosm was poetic mysticism, but not, to use Sanskrt word, mayavist or illusionist (which was the case with some interpretations of Shankara & Madhyamika school of Mahayana Buddhism (Ch'an/Zen).

    Western world possesses all this, and much more. Among classical Greek philosophers, Heraclitus and Empedocles are spiritual summits compared with all Asian philosophers of their time; Parmenides went even further, and Plato, perhaps the most important universal mind in human history, synthesized both this-worldly & other-worldly approaches.

    Chuang Tzu and the rest, when read alongside Plato's dialogues like "Republic", "Phaedo", "Phedrus", "Parmenides" or "Symposium", seem like Vivaldi compared to Bach. Small fry.

    Western world possesses all this, and much more… Parmenides went even further

    What in Parmenides suggests he came anything close to Buddhist philosophy?

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Parmenides-Greek-philosopher

    Parmenides held that the multiplicity of existing things, their changing forms and motion, are but an appearance of a single eternal reality (“Being”), thus giving rise to the Parmenidean principle that “all is one.” From this concept of Being, he went on to say that all claims of change or of non-Being are illogical. Because he introduced the method of basing claims about appearances on a logical concept of Being, he is considered one of the founders of metaphysics. Plato’s dialogue the Parmenides deals with his thought.

    https://www.ancient.eu/Parmenides/

    Parmenides’ claim of a single substance comprising all of reality.
    Parmenides’ main point, however, was simply that nothing could come from nothing and that `being’ must have always existed.

    This probably does injustice to the philosopher, but it sounds like “monism”.

    Mahayana philosophy is the pinnacle of Asian thought and achievement. I don’t think Parmenides or any European thinker came anywhere close.

    and Plato, perhaps the most important universal mind in human history, synthesized both this-worldly & other-worldly approaches.

    Maybe Western history, but not human history.

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  230. @Thomm

    but I have seen nothing in any of your posts that screams anything other than “Middle Class White Guy.”
     
    Of course I am a white guy. Quite a bit above middle class, though.

    That is why I am able to see how skillfully Ron Unz is sowing division and confusion among WN losers, while simultaneously profiting from them. His total manipulation of them is impressive.

    Although I would be even more impressed if he managed to profit from fat bluehaired feminists, who are the female counterparts of WN incel males.

    Thomm, you’re a Hindu Indian, heh heh heh.

    These WNs like Derbyshire or Radical Center have Asian wives and families. We have seen from Derbyshire’s degenerate comments that he is not a WN. This actually exposes outfits like VDare and AmRen and puts the focus on them. I’m sure Unz will be blamed because he’s Jewish, but as I have pointed out before the Jews are a minor problem compared to someone like a Derbyshire.

    Also, it exposes Asian males like Chieh and Bach who believe they are equal to Caucasians and a part of the West. They are not.

    Your strange obsession with WN females not being attractive or something is again a reflection and projection from you.

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    Jews are a minor problem compared to someone like a Derbyshire.
     
    Really? Derbyshire is more dangerous than a hijacked foreign policy and domestic cultural wars?

    Also, it exposes Asian males like Chieh and Bach who believe they are equal to Caucasians and a part of the West.
     
    What does it mean to be "part of the West"? What does the West stand for any more except multiculturalism, identity politics and endless wars?

    They are not.
     
    I know.
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  231. Bach says:
    @AaronB
    Oh, I rather think he did. His famous line about the butterfly suggests our world is not quite real, or we can't know if if is. It's in line with Madhyamika philosophy, which blended with it seamlessly to form Chan/Zen. Taoism prepared the way for the acceptance of Mahayana Buddhism in China.

    And all "mysticism" implies that the world of our senses is an illusion and ultimate reality cannot be grasped by our minds, and is quite different from what we see. Mystery derives from a Greek word meaning unknowable in principle, and not merely unknown by us now.

    You are quite correct that all this exists in the West. Not just with Empedocles and Heraclitus but especially Pythagoras and his Brotherhood, Proclus, Plotinus and other Neoplatonists which became the basis for the Christisn mystical tradition, starting with Dionysius Aereopagita, continuing with Scotus Erigena and culminating with Meister Eckhardt, Ruysbroek, and the Theologica Germanica, and being rediscovered by the Romantics, Blake, Wordsworth, Coleridge, etc, and finally issuing in the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer. Oh, and of course the early Gnostic and their epigones the Cathari.

    In fact, it is the Perennial Tradition.I don't believe in any essential cleavage between East and West, but merely between modernity and non modernity. Before around 1450 the West was essentially like the East.

    My strictures apply solely to modern Western culture - you can't compare that to traditional Chinese culture as they were trying to do two completely different things. Build up the world, and escape it.

    I believe negating and escaping the world is the way to happiness, and modern culture fundamentally misconcieved. So naturally I don't agree with you that modern Western culture is superior, as it is based on taking the physical world seriously and building it up, which is both stupid, based on illusion, and unproductive of happiness.

    As for pre modern Europe, I don't think the Perennial Philosophy found more brilliant expression there than in Asia. I think the outstanding expressions of this sensibility and world view ate Chuang Tzu and other Asian thinkers, especially Indian thinkers on the Mahayana.

    But perhaps we should not make too much of this. Only, this idea that the West is superior depends on modernity - if you think modernity is superficial and stupid, you won't agree.

    And as for your point about the impassivity of Asian faces, that's cultivated. Dispassion and equanimity are admired in Buddhist cultures, as they once were in the West.

    Check out Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics and his discussion of the "Great Man" - such a man is supposed to be impassive and dispassionate, like the Asian ideal.

    It's only modern Western culture that has become lachrymose and "expressive".

    But in the end, Bardon, forget about competiveness.

    It isn't east or west bit modern and pre modern. And pre modern, east and west are essentially equal.

    Claims for Western superiority rest entirely on modernity, and ones attitude to modernity here is the decisive factor in whether you find that compelling.

    I don't.

    And what's childish? I think modern western materialism and realism is childish. It's sn epithet, nothing more.

    You are quite correct that all this exists in the West. Not just with Empedocles and Heraclitus but especially Pythagoras and his Brotherhood, Proclus, Plotinus and other Neoplatonists which became the basis for the Christisn mystical tradition, starting with Dionysius Aereopagita, continuing with Scotus Erigena and culminating with Meister Eckhardt, Ruysbroek, and the Theologica Germanica, and being rediscovered by the Romantics, Blake, Wordsworth, Coleridge, etc, and finally issuing in the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer. Oh, and of course the early Gnostic and their epigones the Cathari.

    Awakening was experienced by people from every continent from time immemorial, but philosophically, I don’t think they quite got it down like the Indians/Asians.

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    In general I tend to agree with you. Asians reign supreme in this area.

    But Westerners came uncannily close, and for the purpose of establishing a world culture I don't like to overstress the differences overmuch.

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  232. AaronB says:
    @Bach

    You are quite correct that all this exists in the West. Not just with Empedocles and Heraclitus but especially Pythagoras and his Brotherhood, Proclus, Plotinus and other Neoplatonists which became the basis for the Christisn mystical tradition, starting with Dionysius Aereopagita, continuing with Scotus Erigena and culminating with Meister Eckhardt, Ruysbroek, and the Theologica Germanica, and being rediscovered by the Romantics, Blake, Wordsworth, Coleridge, etc, and finally issuing in the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer. Oh, and of course the early Gnostic and their epigones the Cathari.
     
    Awakening was experienced by people from every continent from time immemorial, but philosophically, I don't think they quite got it down like the Indians/Asians.

    In general I tend to agree with you. Asians reign supreme in this area.

    But Westerners came uncannily close, and for the purpose of establishing a world culture I don’t like to overstress the differences overmuch.

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    I don’t like to overstress the differences overmuch.
     
    If we say it's all the same, how does that help true seekers? I think it's misleading and a disservice.
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  233. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    You're Korean so I'll have to give you a Western history lesson.

    First, the people of North Africa and the Middle East before Islam took over in the 11th century were Caucasians. The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. St. Augustine is a Caucasian. The mosaics and frescoes of that period show Caucasian, white people.

    Today's North Africans are mostly black. When Islam took over North Africa it brought black slavery and through polygamy and concubinage destroyed the original peoples. So today's Muslims invaders are black.

    Just a reminder, these Muslims cannot assimilate, but neither can you.

    Today’s North Africans are mostly black. When Islam took over North Africa it brought black slavery and through polygamy and concubinage destroyed the original peoples. So today’s Muslims invaders are black.

    So, all “Caucasians” are by definition white, including S. Asians and Semites?

    But through admixture, modern Arabs and Muslims became black? Syrians are black? Palestinians are black?

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    Southeast Asians are not Caucasians. Today's Indians are not the original Aryan Indians. Only a tiny minority of the Brahmin caste would be Caucasian.

    Semites comprise several groups. Today's Jews are mixed Asian/black/European. They are not white. The Ashkenazi Jews were considered Caucasian but they are dying out and today's Jews are very mixed.

    Syrian Christians are Caucasians. Syrian Muslims range from Caucasian to black.

    Muslim Palestinians have a lot of black mixture with Arab. I've seen Palestinians in Israel and they are not Caucasian. The Christian Palestinians are Caucasian. Christian Arabs were segregated so their bloodlines are cleaner. Most Palestinian Christians have left the Middle East and have assimilated in the West. There were not that many of them.

    Of course Asians are not Caucasians i.e., Koreans.
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  234. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Insofar as that’s true, it’s how White Americans (not ESLs) talk. You’d know that if you’d been raised here.
     
    False. Your wigger-ebonics is not proper English.

    Thanks for proving that White Trashionalists have Negro IQs.

    ???

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  235. Tulip says:
    @Truth
    Now that's a GREAT article.

    Only quality can compete with quality!

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  236. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Which just goes to show how creepy and weird you are; you openly admit to being obsessed with and following around WNs, who you loathe and claim are the scum of the Earth.
     
    You are projecting. I see WNs as vermin to be eradicated, just as one would want to eradicate rats.

    You just can't get over the fact that the other 80% of whites see you as complete trash (which you are). That is why we call you White Trashionalists. I have explained the science behind why you comprise of the genetic waste matter that the better part of the white race wants to expunge, but your IQ is too low to grasp it. That is why your grammar is worse than a third-grader's.

    Get off my lawn, faggot.

    You’re not an American, unless, just possibly, you’re way up there on the autism spectrum. (“Domestically born”? WTF? You’re not a can of tomatoes.)

    I don’t know what your issues are, but I hope you work them out.

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  237. Bach says:
    @AaronB
    In general I tend to agree with you. Asians reign supreme in this area.

    But Westerners came uncannily close, and for the purpose of establishing a world culture I don't like to overstress the differences overmuch.

    I don’t like to overstress the differences overmuch.

    If we say it’s all the same, how does that help true seekers? I think it’s misleading and a disservice.

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    Well, I think we should stress the similarities,because these philosophies are not really different and can serve as the basis of a world culture.

    It's just the the full implications of this philosophy, and their most brilliant expressions, have been developed in Asia and among Asians. I think we Westerners must renew our own cultural traditions in this line by contact with Asian philosophy, but I also think think Asians are rapidly losing touch with this tradition by emulating the West, which is understandable but misguided and tragic.

    My hope is that both East and West can regenerate on the basis of this perennial philosophy, and overcome modernity, and find a common basis for cooperation.

    Quixotic? Maybe, but what other option is there? Incessant conflict and competition, with people like Bardon proclaiming for the West, and commenter Duke of Quin nurturing fantasies of revenge against all and sundry.

    There is a better way. Before modernity the East and West were united in seeing the world as illusion and the task of life of life as not taking reality too seriously. We can return to this vision, and the contribution of the East can be given full recognition and blended with Western developments along the same line.

    For truth is One, and all humanity must recognize it.
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  238. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    Thomm, you're a Hindu Indian, heh heh heh.

    These WNs like Derbyshire or Radical Center have Asian wives and families. We have seen from Derbyshire's degenerate comments that he is not a WN. This actually exposes outfits like VDare and AmRen and puts the focus on them. I'm sure Unz will be blamed because he's Jewish, but as I have pointed out before the Jews are a minor problem compared to someone like a Derbyshire.

    Also, it exposes Asian males like Chieh and Bach who believe they are equal to Caucasians and a part of the West. They are not.

    Your strange obsession with WN females not being attractive or something is again a reflection and projection from you.

    Jews are a minor problem compared to someone like a Derbyshire.

    Really? Derbyshire is more dangerous than a hijacked foreign policy and domestic cultural wars?

    Also, it exposes Asian males like Chieh and Bach who believe they are equal to Caucasians and a part of the West.

    What does it mean to be “part of the West”? What does the West stand for any more except multiculturalism, identity politics and endless wars?

    They are not.

    I know.

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    You know you are not part of the West, so why bother commenting? Focus on Asia. Your name Bach is cultural appropriation.
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  239. @Bach

    Today’s North Africans are mostly black. When Islam took over North Africa it brought black slavery and through polygamy and concubinage destroyed the original peoples. So today’s Muslims invaders are black.
     
    So, all "Caucasians" are by definition white, including S. Asians and Semites?

    But through admixture, modern Arabs and Muslims became black? Syrians are black? Palestinians are black?

    Southeast Asians are not Caucasians. Today’s Indians are not the original Aryan Indians. Only a tiny minority of the Brahmin caste would be Caucasian.

    Semites comprise several groups. Today’s Jews are mixed Asian/black/European. They are not white. The Ashkenazi Jews were considered Caucasian but they are dying out and today’s Jews are very mixed.

    Syrian Christians are Caucasians. Syrian Muslims range from Caucasian to black.

    Muslim Palestinians have a lot of black mixture with Arab. I’ve seen Palestinians in Israel and they are not Caucasian. The Christian Palestinians are Caucasian. Christian Arabs were segregated so their bloodlines are cleaner. Most Palestinian Christians have left the Middle East and have assimilated in the West. There were not that many of them.

    Of course Asians are not Caucasians i.e., Koreans.

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    So if the people of the Levant were originally white, you take full responsibility for creating the travesty known as the 3 Abrahamic religions?
    , @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    "Of course Asians are not Caucasians" But of course Asians are not cuckasians we have bigger brains and a much better immune system due to EDAR, what do yo think of the big brained central asians ,big brains they got from mongols.
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  240. AaronB says:
    @Bach

    I don’t like to overstress the differences overmuch.
     
    If we say it's all the same, how does that help true seekers? I think it's misleading and a disservice.

    Well, I think we should stress the similarities,because these philosophies are not really different and can serve as the basis of a world culture.

    It’s just the the full implications of this philosophy, and their most brilliant expressions, have been developed in Asia and among Asians. I think we Westerners must renew our own cultural traditions in this line by contact with Asian philosophy, but I also think think Asians are rapidly losing touch with this tradition by emulating the West, which is understandable but misguided and tragic.

    My hope is that both East and West can regenerate on the basis of this perennial philosophy, and overcome modernity, and find a common basis for cooperation.

    Quixotic? Maybe, but what other option is there? Incessant conflict and competition, with people like Bardon proclaiming for the West, and commenter Duke of Quin nurturing fantasies of revenge against all and sundry.

    There is a better way. Before modernity the East and West were united in seeing the world as illusion and the task of life of life as not taking reality too seriously. We can return to this vision, and the contribution of the East can be given full recognition and blended with Western developments along the same line.

    For truth is One, and all humanity must recognize it.

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    My hope is that both East and West can regenerate on the basis of this perennial philosophy, and overcome modernity, and find a common basis for cooperation.

     

    In my view, modernity and spirituality are not incompatible if the 2 are not viewed as 2 but 1.

    The world of form is ultimately illusion but it's an illusion we use to "save all beings from suffering" (or in modern parlance, to improve the world and help one another).

    "Emptiness" is the ultimate reality, beyond name, form and thinking, but we are not attached to it or abide in it.

    We use that insight to anchor our feets while we play in the world of dreams, cognizant of our collective unity, understanding that our mental discriminations are only apparent, while treating each other with the deepest compassion.

    But if we try to abide in emptiness, we risk falling into torpor. And if we're attached to form, we face the dead end of materialism, ego, dualism and alienation from our true self.

    For the East, the West should be a reminder that constant material improvement must go hand in hand with spiritual attainment. Harmony and balance are noble ideals, but as the taichi symbol suggests, every yang should contain a little yin; and yin should have a little yang. A bit of "agitation" in the balance of harmony is good. In other words, while there is "not a thing to be added" to the world, we "add" to it day by day.

    For the decadent West whose past is a mixture of great achievements and great bloodshed, where does the road lead to? Ahead, the sun sets and endless wars loom. Inside, we are dessicated by hollow slogans and shibboleths. Our pocketful of bombs, guns and iphones feel like lead weights around our necks gradually strangling us.
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  241. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    Southeast Asians are not Caucasians. Today's Indians are not the original Aryan Indians. Only a tiny minority of the Brahmin caste would be Caucasian.

    Semites comprise several groups. Today's Jews are mixed Asian/black/European. They are not white. The Ashkenazi Jews were considered Caucasian but they are dying out and today's Jews are very mixed.

    Syrian Christians are Caucasians. Syrian Muslims range from Caucasian to black.

    Muslim Palestinians have a lot of black mixture with Arab. I've seen Palestinians in Israel and they are not Caucasian. The Christian Palestinians are Caucasian. Christian Arabs were segregated so their bloodlines are cleaner. Most Palestinian Christians have left the Middle East and have assimilated in the West. There were not that many of them.

    Of course Asians are not Caucasians i.e., Koreans.

    So if the people of the Levant were originally white, you take full responsibility for creating the travesty known as the 3 Abrahamic religions?

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    Yeah, right. If you are Christian, well you can have your own Korean church. You cannot be a part of a Western church. Also, I don't know what kind of religious instruction you received so let me know your religion and then I can answer this.
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  242. @Bach

    Jews are a minor problem compared to someone like a Derbyshire.
     
    Really? Derbyshire is more dangerous than a hijacked foreign policy and domestic cultural wars?

    Also, it exposes Asian males like Chieh and Bach who believe they are equal to Caucasians and a part of the West.
     
    What does it mean to be "part of the West"? What does the West stand for any more except multiculturalism, identity politics and endless wars?

    They are not.
     
    I know.

    You know you are not part of the West, so why bother commenting? Focus on Asia. Your name Bach is cultural appropriation.

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    You know you are not part of the West, so why bother commenting?
     
    As I asked, what does it mean to be part of the West? What does membership constitute? Is there a creed? Ideal? Shared myth? Religion? Are Jews and blacks part of the West?

    Your name Bach is cultural appropriation.
     
    I like to appropriate. But I give credit. Bach is great.
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  243. @Bach
    So if the people of the Levant were originally white, you take full responsibility for creating the travesty known as the 3 Abrahamic religions?

    Yeah, right. If you are Christian, well you can have your own Korean church. You cannot be a part of a Western church. Also, I don’t know what kind of religious instruction you received so let me know your religion and then I can answer this.

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    If you are Christian, well you can have your own Korean church. You cannot be a part of a Western church.
     
    LOL. That's very unChristian of you to say. Jesus does not approve.

    Also, I don’t know what kind of religious instruction you received so let me know your religion and then I can answer this.
     
    I'm not religious but I'm biased towards Eastern philosophy.
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  244. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen
    Anti-white Turkish atheist jihadi, is this you again!!!??? You've changed your name a little again, small a instead of capital A. Once again, you're projecting. You know you are inferior to Caucasians/Europeans. And being a male this also has a castrating effect on you because you are inferior to Caucasian/European women. You are the little background noises who know a movement is starting. On other websites I hear that Russians are not white. Fascinating. You and Derbyshire belong together.

    Nice red herring. We are talking about you, not about me. And no, not the same anon. I’m German-English and Lutheran.

    When was the last time Spain invented anything of substance? Never. All Spain ever gave the world was a fucked up continent, and America is still suffering the consequence of the cesspit of their creation. Stop tainting America’s blood with your lower IQ inferior Southern European genes. Pack your bags and go back to Spain.

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    As usual wrong again. I am not from Spain. Sure, German English Lutheran, if you say so.
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  245. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    "Smart" is overrated. There is, of course, more to life than IQ games. For instance China, in Malraux's words "civilization pretending to be a nation", has existed perhaps 1000 years more than classical Greece. But, Greeks (our cultural & intellectual ancestors) have surpassed them (and all others) in a short time.

    West begins in the Greek miracle. Not in static Egypt, nor in later, rather slow witted but efficient Rome. And what we have with old Greeks (aside from bisexuality) ?
    1. the idea of man as a rational individual, frequently at war with gods
    2. very developed abstract language which is still the source of neologisms in sciences (and sometimes arts)
    3. democracy and other forms, but always questioning the forms of government
    4. naval orientation, which helped foster expansion & questioning of dogmas
    5. not very reverent approach to the tradition
    6. population which is, although significant, not very big in numbers

    In China, we have:

    1. a civilization which is by its very nature land-oriented (although, of course, not land-locked)
    2. conservative approach inherited from the Bronze Age, a refined "enlightened despotism"
    3. general conservatism & unwillingness to search for "the new"
    4. orientation towards practical, pragmatic and disregard for the abstract, which is seen in the structure of Chinese language (see Nakamura: Ways of Thinking of Eastern Peoples)
    5. too big population- China has always been ca. 15-25% of humankind

    In sum, if we are talking about not just practical inventions, but instead of complete civilizational orientation which could create a modern world, Chinese were lacking in:
    * abstraction
    * orientation towards the future
    * expansive disposition that comes from too many factors

    Now, West is in a decadent state. Walter Laqueur has quoted Schopenhauer re this matter ( http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/interview-with-historian-walter-laqueur-on-the-decline-of-europe-a-912837.html ): The real question is: Does Europe, in its apathy, even want to play a role in global politics? Arthur Schopenhauer, the great philosopher of pessimism, said that it's easy to want, but that "wanting to want" is virtually impossible. No matter how often European values are invoked and praised, a weak will, inertia, fatigue, self-doubt and lack of self-confidence all amount to the psychological diagnosis of a weak ego.

    What is wrong with white European peoples is this lack of optimism, dynamism, orientation toward future... But, Laqueur quotes Pope at the end: Hope springs eternal.

    I am certain China (and other east Asian nations) will have great future (as it had great past). Just, their inherent weaknesses will also have shown, radically. And after all- Europeans are more creative & will remain so in a foreseeable future (if they not drown themselves with Africans & Muslims).

    Forget, for a moment, all discussions about IQ and look at statues.

    Chinese sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=chinese+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWgejtt9DYAhVkCpoKHcPCBzsQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    Greek sculpture
    https://www.google.hr/search?q=greek+sculpture&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2KOBuNDYAhVPb5oKHe6jDhIQ_AUICigB&biw=1441&bih=648

    West has something in it that is fundamentally creative, and that "something" cannot be found among other races & cultures, except in small portions.

    I agree with your critique of China, but where is Greece today? Mired in economic stagnation and corruption, living off past glory. When was the last time a Greek invented anything of substance? Today’s Greeks seem to have nothing to do with the ancient Greeks that gave the world Philosophy, Mythology, Democracy and the Olympics. That was over 2,400 years ago. Since then little of substance have come out of Greece. Practically all modern scientific and technological invention eluded the Greeks. The Industrial Revolution was started by the British. Too much philosophy is not a good thing. You can get trapped in your mind and think yourself into a hole, like the Jews. A little practicality is a good thing. The WASP have the perfect balance of imagination(Greeks) and practicality(Asians), that’s why WASPs invented almost everything we use today, and run the most stable, advanced societies.

    Btw from looking at the statues, I got the exact opposite impression. It doesn’t take much imagination to make statues out of actual humans. The Chinese statues actually show more imagination with deity and mythical creatures.

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    Incidentally the Golden Age of Islamic Science is what gave us the scientific method, probably the single most important step in modern science. Persia indeed accomplished quite a bit and for a bit of time translated books from Persia were extremely prized in Europe.

    And as you can see, Iran is still the leading power in technology and insight....

    But as you know, in the steady state belief system of humanity, populations never change their characteristics. This is also why in that same system of understanding, we are all Africans out from Africa.

    Proof therefore that Africans are the most accomplished people in the world, then, now and forever.

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  246. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    but I have seen nothing in any of your posts that screams anything other than “Middle Class White Guy.”
     
    Of course I am a white guy. Quite a bit above middle class, though.

    That is why I am able to see how skillfully Ron Unz is sowing division and confusion among WN losers, while simultaneously profiting from them. His total manipulation of them is impressive.

    Although I would be even more impressed if he managed to profit from fat bluehaired feminists, who are the female counterparts of WN incel males.

    That is why I am able to see how skillfully Ron Unz is sowing division and confusion among WN losers, while simultaneously profiting from them. His total manipulation of them is impressive.

    How exactly is Ron Unz profiting from this website? It looks like a net financial drain to me. There aren’t a lot of advertising. I don’t even know how many unique visitors they attract per month. For Breitbart it’s something like 10-15m a month but Breitbart is a Zionist rag pretending to be nationalist. It’s a good thing Ron Unz is a billionaire. We need more true patriots like him.

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    It’s a good thing Ron Unz is a billionaire.
     
    Billionaire? Ha!

    He barely attains the 'multi' in multi-millionaire.

    Good lord, you people are naive. But at least I am glad that he is destroying WN from within, while tricking you into thinking he is an ally.
    , @Truth

    It’s a good thing Ron Unz is a billionaire.
     
    You may have overshot by a zero or two, but I think Ron will take it.
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  247. @attilathehen
    Southeast Asians are not Caucasians. Today's Indians are not the original Aryan Indians. Only a tiny minority of the Brahmin caste would be Caucasian.

    Semites comprise several groups. Today's Jews are mixed Asian/black/European. They are not white. The Ashkenazi Jews were considered Caucasian but they are dying out and today's Jews are very mixed.

    Syrian Christians are Caucasians. Syrian Muslims range from Caucasian to black.

    Muslim Palestinians have a lot of black mixture with Arab. I've seen Palestinians in Israel and they are not Caucasian. The Christian Palestinians are Caucasian. Christian Arabs were segregated so their bloodlines are cleaner. Most Palestinian Christians have left the Middle East and have assimilated in the West. There were not that many of them.

    Of course Asians are not Caucasians i.e., Koreans.

    “Of course Asians are not Caucasians” But of course Asians are not cuckasians we have bigger brains and a much better immune system due to EDAR, what do yo think of the big brained central asians ,big brains they got from mongols.

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  248. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    You’re Korean. You have no creativeness within you.
     
    LOL. Maybe you should ease up.

    By the way, “Bach”, try be-bim-bop for your handle.
     
    I'll change mine if you change yours to Hamburger.

    I’ll change mine if you change yours to Hamburger.

    More like Tapas. She’s a Spanish Roman Catholic.

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    How gallant of you to white -knight the yellow Bach. You prefer bi bam bap to tapas? This must extend to your "taste" in women. I noticed something in another of your comments about white nerds and Asian women. It was favorable. I believe I hit a sore spot about something in your private life. Maybe because you are a Turkish turkey?
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  249. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    I agree with your critique of China, but where is Greece today? Mired in economic stagnation and corruption, living off past glory. When was the last time a Greek invented anything of substance? Today's Greeks seem to have nothing to do with the ancient Greeks that gave the world Philosophy, Mythology, Democracy and the Olympics. That was over 2,400 years ago. Since then little of substance have come out of Greece. Practically all modern scientific and technological invention eluded the Greeks. The Industrial Revolution was started by the British. Too much philosophy is not a good thing. You can get trapped in your mind and think yourself into a hole, like the Jews. A little practicality is a good thing. The WASP have the perfect balance of imagination(Greeks) and practicality(Asians), that's why WASPs invented almost everything we use today, and run the most stable, advanced societies.

    Btw from looking at the statues, I got the exact opposite impression. It doesn't take much imagination to make statues out of actual humans. The Chinese statues actually show more imagination with deity and mythical creatures.

    Incidentally the Golden Age of Islamic Science is what gave us the scientific method, probably the single most important step in modern science. Persia indeed accomplished quite a bit and for a bit of time translated books from Persia were extremely prized in Europe.

    And as you can see, Iran is still the leading power in technology and insight….

    But as you know, in the steady state belief system of humanity, populations never change their characteristics. This is also why in that same system of understanding, we are all Africans out from Africa.

    Proof therefore that Africans are the most accomplished people in the world, then, now and forever.

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  250. Bach says:
    @AaronB
    Well, I think we should stress the similarities,because these philosophies are not really different and can serve as the basis of a world culture.

    It's just the the full implications of this philosophy, and their most brilliant expressions, have been developed in Asia and among Asians. I think we Westerners must renew our own cultural traditions in this line by contact with Asian philosophy, but I also think think Asians are rapidly losing touch with this tradition by emulating the West, which is understandable but misguided and tragic.

    My hope is that both East and West can regenerate on the basis of this perennial philosophy, and overcome modernity, and find a common basis for cooperation.

    Quixotic? Maybe, but what other option is there? Incessant conflict and competition, with people like Bardon proclaiming for the West, and commenter Duke of Quin nurturing fantasies of revenge against all and sundry.

    There is a better way. Before modernity the East and West were united in seeing the world as illusion and the task of life of life as not taking reality too seriously. We can return to this vision, and the contribution of the East can be given full recognition and blended with Western developments along the same line.

    For truth is One, and all humanity must recognize it.

    My hope is that both East and West can regenerate on the basis of this perennial philosophy, and overcome modernity, and find a common basis for cooperation.

    In my view, modernity and spirituality are not incompatible if the 2 are not viewed as 2 but 1.

    The world of form is ultimately illusion but it’s an illusion we use to “save all beings from suffering” (or in modern parlance, to improve the world and help one another).

    “Emptiness” is the ultimate reality, beyond name, form and thinking, but we are not attached to it or abide in it.

    We use that insight to anchor our feets while we play in the world of dreams, cognizant of our collective unity, understanding that our mental discriminations are only apparent, while treating each other with the deepest compassion.

    But if we try to abide in emptiness, we risk falling into torpor. And if we’re attached to form, we face the dead end of materialism, ego, dualism and alienation from our true self.

    For the East, the West should be a reminder that constant material improvement must go hand in hand with spiritual attainment. Harmony and balance are noble ideals, but as the taichi symbol suggests, every yang should contain a little yin; and yin should have a little yang. A bit of “agitation” in the balance of harmony is good. In other words, while there is “not a thing to be added” to the world, we “add” to it day by day.

    For the decadent West whose past is a mixture of great achievements and great bloodshed, where does the road lead to? Ahead, the sun sets and endless wars loom. Inside, we are dessicated by hollow slogans and shibboleths. Our pocketful of bombs, guns and iphones feel like lead weights around our necks gradually strangling us.

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    Thanks. Yes, in general I agree with what you say here, and the balance you describe is probably the best we can hope for. But the world is tilted so heavily in the other direction that we need a massive dose of "Emptiness", and for the time being, we probably don't have to worry about Emptiness becoming another source of positive attachment. Emptiness is also empty, of course.

    Politics would, if not vanish, he vastly scaled back, if we learned once again to see the world as the play of illusion it is. But dogmatic materialism is our rather unintelligent metaphysics at the moment.

    But it's good to find another who sees these things.

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  251. @attilathehen
    WOW!!! I ask a simple question with an obvious answer: the English are smarter, morally superior to the Chinese and you come up with Stalin (Georgian) versus Warren Harding (USA WASP)!!! (An insult to me as an American that you could even put these 2 in the same category!!!) You have Asian AIDS caused by an Asian woman and this has been transmitted to your Chinese offspring. I'm trying to keep calm as I type my response. First, for all readers of this website, this shows the worthlessness of VDare. That they would keep such a degenerate as Derbyshire on their website is beyond belief. AmRen is now compromised because they can no longer have Derbyshire as a speaker at their conferences. It fact, it is better if they get banned/boycotted because they are consorting with an enemy of Western civilization - Derbyshire. Here is the enemy, not the "Jews." Derbyshire will scribble about illegals from Latin America, but refuses to deal with the refuse China dumps in the USA. His wife is an example of this refuse. https://www.41nbc.com/2018/01/09/baby-bust-feds-raid-california-maternity-hotels/ Derbyshire turned his back on the West when he married the Chinese woman. China has performed over 400 million abortions since the mid 1970s. It is too bad his wife was not one of these. Females are aborted the most. His children will compound these problems. The daughter and wife voted for Obama. This despite his article about having a talk with your children about blacks. His wife and daughter have castrated him. The son had problems and needed to enter the military to be straightened out. So much for the Asian tiger mother ideal. Asians and Middle East Muslims are the majority of shooters in the USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjp_qtCgEas

    I commented before that Derbyshire could have redeemed himself if his Chinese family would make a speech at AmRen acknowledging the superiority of the West over the East and that they were grateful for the chance at being in the West. We now see that this will never occur and this is because of Derbyshire.

    “English are smarter, morally superior to the Chinese” i am having a good laugh over this comment, how can a small brained people be better than a bigger brained race ,damn basque people have possibly killed a billion or possibly more,you call this morally superior, inferior bad immune system you heshe.

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  252. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    You know you are not part of the West, so why bother commenting? Focus on Asia. Your name Bach is cultural appropriation.

    You know you are not part of the West, so why bother commenting?

    As I asked, what does it mean to be part of the West? What does membership constitute? Is there a creed? Ideal? Shared myth? Religion? Are Jews and blacks part of the West?

    Your name Bach is cultural appropriation.

    I like to appropriate. But I give credit. Bach is great.

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    Blacks/Asians/Jews are not a part of the West. That means you. Biology first, beliefs second. I know Jesus said to preach the word to the world, but many people will not listen and we are to shake the dust from our feet and walk away from them. That means blacks/Asians/Jews.
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  253. @anon

    Basques, Brits are my kinspeople.
     
    Sorry but you have to go back too. America needs to return to its WASP origin. Your WASP blood has been tainted, and what's more since you are RCC from cradle it means the Basque blood is dominant in your genes. America was a great country until the WASPs started taking in the low IQ Catholic horde from Ireland and Southern Europe. To this day Catholic Europe is mired in corruption, immorality and economic stagnation, evidence of their lower IQ. Your Spanish blood has been tainted for centuries by the constantly invading low IQ(81) Arabs, which is why the Spanish conquistadors acted like Arabs when they came to the New World - killing indiscriminately, raping, plundering, and spreading their toxic Roman Catholic religion. The British never mixed with the natives when they conquered their land. Spaniards have no morals, like the Arabs.

    And no you do not get to exonerate yourself by excommunicating from the RCC. You cannot change your ethnic composition. Since you insist people who are otherwise assimilated by becoming US citizens, swearing allegiance to the US and no other country, adopted the Protestant ethic of law abidingness and upward mobility still cannot stay in America by virtue of their ethnic composition, no such courtesy will be extended to you.

    Take your tainted low IQ Catholic Southern European ass back to Spain. Basque country needs you. America doesn't.

    “Take your tainted low IQ Catholic Southern European ass back to Spain. Basque country ” british isles including so called wasps, language notwithstanding are basque as well

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    british isles including so called wasps, language notwithstanding are basque as well
     
    Meaningless. Clearly the two diverged long ago. Modern Brits have nothing to do with Basques who have mixed with the low IQ Spanish Visigoths and Arabs for centuries while the Brits mixed with the Vikings and the French. And when you add religion into the mix, well forget about it. Catholicism forever retarded the PIIGS. Just like attilathehen insisted only Christian Palestinians/Syrians are caucasian while the Muslim Palestinian/Syrians are not, British are WASPs while the Basques are clearly not since they are Catholic.
    , @attilathehen
    [Your content-free ranting is cluttering up this thread with too many useless comments. If you want future comments published, considerably reduce their number and also try to provide something of substance.]

    birdbrain: You like to play both sides, but you are right about Basques. Also, the English are related to the ancient Egyptians. Caucasians are number 1.
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  254. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    Yeah, right. If you are Christian, well you can have your own Korean church. You cannot be a part of a Western church. Also, I don't know what kind of religious instruction you received so let me know your religion and then I can answer this.

    If you are Christian, well you can have your own Korean church. You cannot be a part of a Western church.

    LOL. That’s very unChristian of you to say. Jesus does not approve.

    Also, I don’t know what kind of religious instruction you received so let me know your religion and then I can answer this.

    I’m not religious but I’m biased towards Eastern philosophy.

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  255. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    "Take your tainted low IQ Catholic Southern European ass back to Spain. Basque country " british isles including so called wasps, language notwithstanding are basque as well

    british isles including so called wasps, language notwithstanding are basque as well

    Meaningless. Clearly the two diverged long ago. Modern Brits have nothing to do with Basques who have mixed with the low IQ Spanish Visigoths and Arabs for centuries while the Brits mixed with the Vikings and the French. And when you add religion into the mix, well forget about it. Catholicism forever retarded the PIIGS. Just like attilathehen insisted only Christian Palestinians/Syrians are caucasian while the Muslim Palestinian/Syrians are not, British are WASPs while the Basques are clearly not since they are Catholic.

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  256. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen
    WOW!!! I ask a simple question with an obvious answer: the English are smarter, morally superior to the Chinese and you come up with Stalin (Georgian) versus Warren Harding (USA WASP)!!! (An insult to me as an American that you could even put these 2 in the same category!!!) You have Asian AIDS caused by an Asian woman and this has been transmitted to your Chinese offspring. I'm trying to keep calm as I type my response. First, for all readers of this website, this shows the worthlessness of VDare. That they would keep such a degenerate as Derbyshire on their website is beyond belief. AmRen is now compromised because they can no longer have Derbyshire as a speaker at their conferences. It fact, it is better if they get banned/boycotted because they are consorting with an enemy of Western civilization - Derbyshire. Here is the enemy, not the "Jews." Derbyshire will scribble about illegals from Latin America, but refuses to deal with the refuse China dumps in the USA. His wife is an example of this refuse. https://www.41nbc.com/2018/01/09/baby-bust-feds-raid-california-maternity-hotels/ Derbyshire turned his back on the West when he married the Chinese woman. China has performed over 400 million abortions since the mid 1970s. It is too bad his wife was not one of these. Females are aborted the most. His children will compound these problems. The daughter and wife voted for Obama. This despite his article about having a talk with your children about blacks. His wife and daughter have castrated him. The son had problems and needed to enter the military to be straightened out. So much for the Asian tiger mother ideal. Asians and Middle East Muslims are the majority of shooters in the USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjp_qtCgEas

    I commented before that Derbyshire could have redeemed himself if his Chinese family would make a speech at AmRen acknowledging the superiority of the West over the East and that they were grateful for the chance at being in the West. We now see that this will never occur and this is because of Derbyshire.

    You should move to Eastern Europe, like Poland. They are into racial purity there. It’s too late for America. You can’t chase away 100m people. You’re wasting your breath.

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    No. It is not too late. I've been to Russia and love the people and country, but I am an American. Getting rid of illegals is the first step. Segregating blacks and barring Jews from political office will be the next steps. Asians are newcomers and can be easily sent back. But again, big picture, collapsing the RCC/Zioevangizers/Freemasons is first and will expedite the steps above. Fortunately, the these 3 groups will be mostly gone by 2020. That is the USA's Year Zero.
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  257. @anon
    Nice red herring. We are talking about you, not about me. And no, not the same anon. I'm German-English and Lutheran.

    When was the last time Spain invented anything of substance? Never. All Spain ever gave the world was a fucked up continent, and America is still suffering the consequence of the cesspit of their creation. Stop tainting America's blood with your lower IQ inferior Southern European genes. Pack your bags and go back to Spain.

    As usual wrong again. I am not from Spain. Sure, German English Lutheran, if you say so.

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    As usual wrong again. I am not from Spain. Sure, German English Lutheran, if you say so.
     
    It's your ethnic origin, which you can't change. That's why you were born into that backward religion of RC which not only fucked up you and your kins but an entire new continent.

    America is for WASPs only. No room for low IQ Southern Europeans and Catholics. You need to leave.

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  258. @Bach

    You know you are not part of the West, so why bother commenting?
     
    As I asked, what does it mean to be part of the West? What does membership constitute? Is there a creed? Ideal? Shared myth? Religion? Are Jews and blacks part of the West?

    Your name Bach is cultural appropriation.
     
    I like to appropriate. But I give credit. Bach is great.

    Blacks/Asians/Jews are not a part of the West. That means you. Biology first, beliefs second. I know Jesus said to preach the word to the world, but many people will not listen and we are to shake the dust from our feet and walk away from them. That means blacks/Asians/Jews.

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    Blacks/Asians/Jews are not a part of the West... Biology first, beliefs second.
     
    The trouble is, people like you forcibly imported blacks into the West and they have been living among you for hundreds of years. It's hard to argue that they are not part of "Americana".

    Jews have also been living among you for thousands of years. Why hadn't you deported them? After 2 millennia of living side by side and physically indistinguishable from you, how can they be anything but Western?

    It's also the same for many immigrants whose homes you have bombed and destroyed and then invited into the West.

    As for me, it wasn't people like me that rushed to the West, but people like you that rushed to the East.

    If it wasn't for people like you, most of us would probably still be living in our motherlands undisturbed.

    In short, it wasn't the world that invaded the West, but the West that invaded the world and declared most of it hers. The great migration was started by you and is still aggravated by people like you.

    I know Jesus said to preach the word to the world, but many people will not listen and we are to shake the dust from our feet and walk away from them.
     
    I think his admonition goes beyond just evangelism but also loving one's neighbors.
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  259. @britishbrainsize1325cclol
    "Take your tainted low IQ Catholic Southern European ass back to Spain. Basque country " british isles including so called wasps, language notwithstanding are basque as well

    [Your content-free ranting is cluttering up this thread with too many useless comments. If you want future comments published, considerably reduce their number and also try to provide something of substance.]

    birdbrain: You like to play both sides, but you are right about Basques. Also, the English are related to the ancient Egyptians. Caucasians are number 1.

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  260. Tulip says:

    I’m not one to diminish European man’s former accomplishments, but look at the future. China, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and the nations of Asia are seeking to preserve themselves, their cultures and their ways of life, while modernizing and beginning to lap the West. In contrast, Europe is two generations away from Eurabia, and America is rapidly becoming indistinguishable from a Latin American banana republic. Moreover, not only is neither Europe nor America doing anything about it, you are a bad person if you even bring it up.

    I don’t know about race–China was more advanced for thousands of years, but then collapsed and almost ended in the late 19th to early 20th century. Now they are back stronger than ever. In contrast, the West is happy to commit a kind of cultural and ultimately, political, suicide, with no insight into its condition. Is this genetic? I doubt it, its just the cycle of things.

    From where I sit, the 21st Century will be the Century of China, and the rise of Asian Power, and the final collapse of the American Empire. Why not hook up with an Asian girl–Asia is the future. Where are you or at least your kids going to be able to emigrate to when the West collapses? Or do you want them growing up in a favela outside of Los Angeles?

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    On second thought, I'm sure our transgendered armed forces where no soldier can even do a chin up will have no trouble using their overpriced and obsolete equipment to wipe the floor against the Chinese, as long as no one in their platoon says something "triggering" during the march in.
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  261. @anon

    I’ll change mine if you change yours to Hamburger.
     
    More like Tapas. She's a Spanish Roman Catholic.

    How gallant of you to white -knight the yellow Bach. You prefer bi bam bap to tapas? This must extend to your “taste” in women. I noticed something in another of your comments about white nerds and Asian women. It was favorable. I believe I hit a sore spot about something in your private life. Maybe because you are a Turkish turkey?

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    Got me mixed up. I'm not the anon who commented about nerds and Asian women.
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  262. Tulip says:
    @Tulip
    I'm not one to diminish European man's former accomplishments, but look at the future. China, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and the nations of Asia are seeking to preserve themselves, their cultures and their ways of life, while modernizing and beginning to lap the West. In contrast, Europe is two generations away from Eurabia, and America is rapidly becoming indistinguishable from a Latin American banana republic. Moreover, not only is neither Europe nor America doing anything about it, you are a bad person if you even bring it up.

    I don't know about race--China was more advanced for thousands of years, but then collapsed and almost ended in the late 19th to early 20th century. Now they are back stronger than ever. In contrast, the West is happy to commit a kind of cultural and ultimately, political, suicide, with no insight into its condition. Is this genetic? I doubt it, its just the cycle of things.

    From where I sit, the 21st Century will be the Century of China, and the rise of Asian Power, and the final collapse of the American Empire. Why not hook up with an Asian girl--Asia is the future. Where are you or at least your kids going to be able to emigrate to when the West collapses? Or do you want them growing up in a favela outside of Los Angeles?

    On second thought, I’m sure our transgendered armed forces where no soldier can even do a chin up will have no trouble using their overpriced and obsolete equipment to wipe the floor against the Chinese, as long as no one in their platoon says something “triggering” during the march in.

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  263. Thomm says:
    @anon

    That is why I am able to see how skillfully Ron Unz is sowing division and confusion among WN losers, while simultaneously profiting from them. His total manipulation of them is impressive.
     
    How exactly is Ron Unz profiting from this website? It looks like a net financial drain to me. There aren't a lot of advertising. I don't even know how many unique visitors they attract per month. For Breitbart it's something like 10-15m a month but Breitbart is a Zionist rag pretending to be nationalist. It's a good thing Ron Unz is a billionaire. We need more true patriots like him.

    It’s a good thing Ron Unz is a billionaire.

    Billionaire? Ha!

    He barely attains the ‘multi’ in multi-millionaire.

    Good lord, you people are naive. But at least I am glad that he is destroying WN from within, while tricking you into thinking he is an ally.

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    Thomm, you got me all tingly so now I'm looking for more attention. First, "anon", he used to be Anonymous, so he definitely is a troll and not a white nationalist. I posted a comment to "anon" asking it what would it do with Americans of French, German, Dutch descent who are RCC and would accept black/Asian priests-popes. This was not posted. This "anon" reminds me of the neo Nazis who blame everything on the Jews. Neo-Nazis blaming everything on the Jews remind me of Seinfeld's Uncle Leo who believed everyone was an anti-Semite. This "anon's" racial purity angle is a ruse. He knows something is afoot.

    Ron Unz is free to do what he wants. It is his website. He is not destroying the WN movement. He's actually helping by outing out degenerate cowards like Derbyshire. The RCC commentators do not like what I have to say about the RCC. They accuse me of lying about my RCC background. I expose the RCC for what it is.

    I've noticed I am one of just a couple of women who post on Unz and other websites. But one thing I've noticed is that almost all the criticism I receive is from the Caucasian RCC male who accepts black/Asian priests-popes, the Zioevangizer who believes Jews are the chosen, and the gentile Freemason who promotes universal brotherhood. These 3 stooges are destroying the West.

    And, Attila the Hen was Margaret Thatcher's nickname.

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  264. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen
    How gallant of you to white -knight the yellow Bach. You prefer bi bam bap to tapas? This must extend to your "taste" in women. I noticed something in another of your comments about white nerds and Asian women. It was favorable. I believe I hit a sore spot about something in your private life. Maybe because you are a Turkish turkey?

    Got me mixed up. I’m not the anon who commented about nerds and Asian women.

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  265. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Truth

    The martial arts of the far east hold an allure, especially since western martial arts, such as boxing and wrestling, aren’t promoted as “mysterious” and “deep and spiritual” as eastern ones are.

    As a result, many young white men get interested in the Far East, perhaps through martial arts training.
     
    1972 called, Sport. It said to stop plagiarizing.

    The result is that a white guy is exposed to a household and girl who would never date a black
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LnCveJcWe4

    lol. I’m sorry the truth hurts you so much, little Media Matters worker.

    Do keep trying to deny it. It’s amusing to watch you fail.

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    Aren't you late for a Hapkido lesson?
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  266. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen
    As usual wrong again. I am not from Spain. Sure, German English Lutheran, if you say so.

    As usual wrong again. I am not from Spain. Sure, German English Lutheran, if you say so.

    It’s your ethnic origin, which you can’t change. That’s why you were born into that backward religion of RC which not only fucked up you and your kins but an entire new continent.

    America is for WASPs only. No room for low IQ Southern Europeans and Catholics. You need to leave.

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  267. Bach says:
    @attilathehen
    Blacks/Asians/Jews are not a part of the West. That means you. Biology first, beliefs second. I know Jesus said to preach the word to the world, but many people will not listen and we are to shake the dust from our feet and walk away from them. That means blacks/Asians/Jews.

    Blacks/Asians/Jews are not a part of the West… Biology first, beliefs second.

    The trouble is, people like you forcibly imported blacks into the West and they have been living among you for hundreds of years. It’s hard to argue that they are not part of “Americana”.

    Jews have also been living among you for thousands of years. Why hadn’t you deported them? After 2 millennia of living side by side and physically indistinguishable from you, how can they be anything but Western?

    It’s also the same for many immigrants whose homes you have bombed and destroyed and then invited into the West.

    As for me, it wasn’t people like me that rushed to the West, but people like you that rushed to the East.

    If it wasn’t for people like you, most of us would probably still be living in our motherlands undisturbed.

    In short, it wasn’t the world that invaded the West, but the West that invaded the world and declared most of it hers. The great migration was started by you and is still aggravated by people like you.

    I know Jesus said to preach the word to the world, but many people will not listen and we are to shake the dust from our feet and walk away from them.

    I think his admonition goes beyond just evangelism but also loving one’s neighbors.

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    Jews have also been living among you for thousands of years. Why hadn’t you deported them? After 2 millennia of living side by side and physically indistinguishable from you, how can they be anything but Western?
     
    If Jews were truly western, we wouldn't be having all these problems with identity politics and victimhood narrative in the west. And yes they are physically distinguishable most of the time, if you only pay attention.
    , @Thomm

    The trouble is, people like you forcibly imported blacks into the West and they have been living among you for hundreds of years. It’s hard to argue that they are not part of “Americana”.
     
    The thing is, Attilathehen merely argues because she gets sexual arousal from being correct by men. You are not going to change her views, as she is not even really interested in this subject. Your hard work is merely entertaining her. She gets tingles in her nether regions.

    One could point out that the real Attila the Hun had a Mongol appearance, and certainly was not white, but again, facts are not why she is here.

    The most severe punishment you can deliver her is to ignore her entirely. She cannot survive without male interaction.
    , @attilathehen
    See my comment #275. It didn't post to your name for some strange reason.
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  268. Truth says:
    @anon

    That is why I am able to see how skillfully Ron Unz is sowing division and confusion among WN losers, while simultaneously profiting from them. His total manipulation of them is impressive.
     
    How exactly is Ron Unz profiting from this website? It looks like a net financial drain to me. There aren't a lot of advertising. I don't even know how many unique visitors they attract per month. For Breitbart it's something like 10-15m a month but Breitbart is a Zionist rag pretending to be nationalist. It's a good thing Ron Unz is a billionaire. We need more true patriots like him.

    It’s a good thing Ron Unz is a billionaire.

    You may have overshot by a zero or two, but I think Ron will take it.

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  269. Truth says:
    @whorefinder
    lol. I'm sorry the truth hurts you so much, little Media Matters worker.

    Do keep trying to deny it. It's amusing to watch you fail.

    Aren’t you late for a Hapkido lesson?

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    Aren’t you late for a Hapkido lesson?

    Did you mean a Seppuku lesson?
    , @whorefinder
    Only if it's at your mom's house. lol.
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  270. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    Blacks/Asians/Jews are not a part of the West... Biology first, beliefs second.
     
    The trouble is, people like you forcibly imported blacks into the West and they have been living among you for hundreds of years. It's hard to argue that they are not part of "Americana".

    Jews have also been living among you for thousands of years. Why hadn't you deported them? After 2 millennia of living side by side and physically indistinguishable from you, how can they be anything but Western?

    It's also the same for many immigrants whose homes you have bombed and destroyed and then invited into the West.

    As for me, it wasn't people like me that rushed to the West, but people like you that rushed to the East.

    If it wasn't for people like you, most of us would probably still be living in our motherlands undisturbed.

    In short, it wasn't the world that invaded the West, but the West that invaded the world and declared most of it hers. The great migration was started by you and is still aggravated by people like you.

    I know Jesus said to preach the word to the world, but many people will not listen and we are to shake the dust from our feet and walk away from them.
     
    I think his admonition goes beyond just evangelism but also loving one's neighbors.

    Jews have also been living among you for thousands of years. Why hadn’t you deported them? After 2 millennia of living side by side and physically indistinguishable from you, how can they be anything but Western?

    If Jews were truly western, we wouldn’t be having all these problems with identity politics and victimhood narrative in the west. And yes they are physically distinguishable most of the time, if you only pay attention.

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    If Jews were truly western, we wouldn’t be having all these problems with identity politics and victimhood narrative in the west.
     
    They're a subculture of the West that see themselves as a separate tribe within a tribe. This should have been corrected a long time ago, in my view, but maybe the general fragmentation of Europe made that impossible.

    However, I think there is an analogue here between wider Europeans and Jews.

    Europeans see themselves as a separate "white tribe" apart from the rest of humanity. Jews view themselves as the "chosen tribe" among Christian whites.

    Europeans practice a tribal morality, one for themselves, a second for others. Jews, likewise, have a flexible morality, one for themselves, another for the European goy.

    Europeans rationalize the parasitism of the world in their self interest. Jews also rationalize the parasitism of European society in their self interest.

    Europeans believe in self-determination at home but the right to establish colonies abroad and sojourn in foreign lands with absolute freedom. Jews maintain their right to be a "Jewish nation" but demand equal citizenship in every European capital without prejudice.

    It would be poetic if it wasn't so tragic.

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  271. AaronB says:
    @Bach

    My hope is that both East and West can regenerate on the basis of this perennial philosophy, and overcome modernity, and find a common basis for cooperation.

     

    In my view, modernity and spirituality are not incompatible if the 2 are not viewed as 2 but 1.

    The world of form is ultimately illusion but it's an illusion we use to "save all beings from suffering" (or in modern parlance, to improve the world and help one another).

    "Emptiness" is the ultimate reality, beyond name, form and thinking, but we are not attached to it or abide in it.

    We use that insight to anchor our feets while we play in the world of dreams, cognizant of our collective unity, understanding that our mental discriminations are only apparent, while treating each other with the deepest compassion.

    But if we try to abide in emptiness, we risk falling into torpor. And if we're attached to form, we face the dead end of materialism, ego, dualism and alienation from our true self.

    For the East, the West should be a reminder that constant material improvement must go hand in hand with spiritual attainment. Harmony and balance are noble ideals, but as the taichi symbol suggests, every yang should contain a little yin; and yin should have a little yang. A bit of "agitation" in the balance of harmony is good. In other words, while there is "not a thing to be added" to the world, we "add" to it day by day.

    For the decadent West whose past is a mixture of great achievements and great bloodshed, where does the road lead to? Ahead, the sun sets and endless wars loom. Inside, we are dessicated by hollow slogans and shibboleths. Our pocketful of bombs, guns and iphones feel like lead weights around our necks gradually strangling us.

    Thanks. Yes, in general I agree with what you say here, and the balance you describe is probably the best we can hope for. But the world is tilted so heavily in the other direction that we need a massive dose of “Emptiness”, and for the time being, we probably don’t have to worry about Emptiness becoming another source of positive attachment. Emptiness is also empty, of course.

    Politics would, if not vanish, he vastly scaled back, if we learned once again to see the world as the play of illusion it is. But dogmatic materialism is our rather unintelligent metaphysics at the moment.

    But it’s good to find another who sees these things.

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  272. iffen says:
    @Truth
    Aren't you late for a Hapkido lesson?

    Aren’t you late for a Hapkido lesson?

    Did you mean a Seppuku lesson?

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