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George Washington, the guy on the quarter, could soon be facing the ax in San Francisco as surely as his fabled cherry tree.

The president of the San Francisco school board thinks it’s time to consider renaming schools that bear the names of slave owners — including Washington and his friends and fellow presidents Thomas Jefferson andJames Monroe.

Board President Matt Haney said Tuesday he will introduce a resolution before the board this month to clarify the rules for renaming San Francisco schools with an eye to encouraging the communities at Washington High School, along with Jefferson and Monroe elementary schools, to consider whether they want to make a change.

Another school that might want to think about a new name, Haney said, is Francis Scott Key Elementary School — which was named for the slave-owning lyricist of “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

“We need to have a conversation about this,” Haney said. “Especially at George Washington High School. We have school names in San Francisco that are not relevant or meaningful or inspire pride.”

Yes, Haney said, the name Washington — also shared by a state, the U.S. capital and a likeness on a dollar bill — might very well be such a name.

“I would not want to speak for the school community,” Haney said. “It’s a very tricky issue. I’m trying to stay away from condemning anyone. It was a very different time back then. But slavery was America’s original sin.”

 
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  1. After the Commies took power, they changed all the names. A victorious revolutionary movement wipes the slate clean and then builds a perfect society. A society where leaders like Mr. Haney will have the power they deserve. Power coupled with strong feelings of moral righteousness. What a wonderful combination! Intoxicating! Different religion, same stupidity.

    The whole point of pushing the ideas that American heroes are unworthy of our respect and that American history is sinful is to demoralize those of us today who are viewed as beneficiaries of this rotten system and, also, to delegitimize the ways in which we gained our prosperity. It is preparation for the glorious day when the poor victims can finally stomp our faces into the mud and rob us blind.

    Such rubbish really should not be tolerated a bit.

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    • Replies: @Outwest
    And when they lost power, back to St. Petersburg..
    , @Barnard
    I'm somewhat surprised liberals in California haven't tried to rename some of the cities with Christian names. It is possible they don't understand the origin of name like Sacramento though.
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  2. Probably best to just assign each school a number. San Francisco School 1, San Francisco School 2…. and so fourth. Unless St Francis had racist thoughts… Which he probably did. They’ll have to rename the city. Martin Luther King City maybe. And the schools can be called Martin Luther King School 1, 2, 3 etc.

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    • Replies: @Hacienda
    Martin Luther, founder of Protestantism, and we all know what the Protestants did.
    And King is male privileged. Get that outta here. And 1, 2, 3 are Arab centric. Screw that.

    We go zapf wingdings. School ✚, School ❄, School ☻,...
  3. Hacienda says:
    @Michael Rolls
    Probably best to just assign each school a number. San Francisco School 1, San Francisco School 2.... and so fourth. Unless St Francis had racist thoughts... Which he probably did. They'll have to rename the city. Martin Luther King City maybe. And the schools can be called Martin Luther King School 1, 2, 3 etc.

    Martin Luther, founder of Protestantism, and we all know what the Protestants did.
    And King is male privileged. Get that outta here. And 1, 2, 3 are Arab centric. Screw that.

    We go zapf wingdings. School ✚, School ❄, School ☻,…

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  4. Outwest says:
    @Paul Yarbles
    After the Commies took power, they changed all the names. A victorious revolutionary movement wipes the slate clean and then builds a perfect society. A society where leaders like Mr. Haney will have the power they deserve. Power coupled with strong feelings of moral righteousness. What a wonderful combination! Intoxicating! Different religion, same stupidity.

    The whole point of pushing the ideas that American heroes are unworthy of our respect and that American history is sinful is to demoralize those of us today who are viewed as beneficiaries of this rotten system and, also, to delegitimize the ways in which we gained our prosperity. It is preparation for the glorious day when the poor victims can finally stomp our faces into the mud and rob us blind.

    Such rubbish really should not be tolerated a bit.

    And when they lost power, back to St. Petersburg..

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  5. “But slavery was America’s original sin.”

    America’s? how the fuck is America getting all the blame for slavery? America wasn’t even a country until 1776 and 90 years later abolished slavery. Of the countries receiving slaves Brazil was the main place they were shipped.

    How is it only the United States “owes” for slavery?

    WTF is going on? please, somebody make the insanity stop.

    p.s. 2%-4% of all slaves when to North America.

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    • Replies: @Adar.
    "p.s. 2%-4% of all slaves when to North America."

    British North America. Or am I quibbling?
    , @Jacques Sheete

    America wasn’t even a country until 1776 and 90 years later abolished slavery.
     
    Sorry to quibble, but whut skool didja lern that in?

    Duz 1789 mean anything to yi?

    Also, was slavery really abolished, or just made more palatable? Was Mr. Tolstoy all wet here?

    “But in reality the abolition of serfdom and of slavery was only the abolition of an obsolete form of slavery that had become unnecessary, and the substitution for it of a firmer form of slavery and one that holds a greater number of people in bondage.”

    - Leo Tolstoy, Slavery of Our Times, Chap 8, 11 July, 1900
     
  6. Adar. says:
    @interesting
    "But slavery was America’s original sin.”

    America's? how the fuck is America getting all the blame for slavery? America wasn't even a country until 1776 and 90 years later abolished slavery. Of the countries receiving slaves Brazil was the main place they were shipped.

    How is it only the United States "owes" for slavery?

    WTF is going on? please, somebody make the insanity stop.

    p.s. 2%-4% of all slaves when to North America.

    “p.s. 2%-4% of all slaves when to North America.”

    British North America. Or am I quibbling?

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    • Replies: @interesting
    not quibbling at all, stating facts.....and i wish more people would start doing that
  7. I’m in favor of instituting COMPLETE EQUALITY right now. (for women AND minorities)
    Let’s eliminate Affirmative Action, low income housing, hiring quotas, free school lunches/breakfast, Title 9, generational welfare, free healthcare, lowered standards mental and physical for military and govt jobs……

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I agree.

    I am 1000% in favour of taking slaveholders' names off schools (and statues of theirs, as well), as long as the content of education, which has been watered down considerably for the sake of "minorities", is restored to that which suits the majority of Americans, and schools be schools again.
  8. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @boogerbently
    I'm in favor of instituting COMPLETE EQUALITY right now. (for women AND minorities)
    Let's eliminate Affirmative Action, low income housing, hiring quotas, free school lunches/breakfast, Title 9, generational welfare, free healthcare, lowered standards mental and physical for military and govt jobs......

    I agree.

    I am 1000% in favour of taking slaveholders’ names off schools (and statues of theirs, as well), as long as the content of education, which has been watered down considerably for the sake of “minorities”, is restored to that which suits the majority of Americans, and schools be schools again.

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  9. Today’s high schools have smoking problems, not slavery problems. It would make more sense to rename schools which bear the names smokers. Sorry Barack, no schools for you.

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  10. unit472 says:

    Where do you stop? Slavery was a lawful practice in Washington’s time. If Washington had freed his slaves and kicked them off his plantation would they have been better off? Would they have even survived?

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    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete

    Where do you stop? Slavery was a lawful practice in Washington’s time.
     
    The question isn't whether it was lawful or not. It's whether it was moral or not.
  11. Big Bill says:

    Lets get a Mex/Black race war fired up! Demand that California rename its various “Junipero Serra” schools. Junipero Serra was a Catholic priest who ran missions in California and enslaved the local Indians. He is romanticized and honored these days, but a slavemaster is a slavemaster, so he’s got to go!

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  12. Big Bill says:

    I demand that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ulysses Grant, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, John Muir and all other white names be removed from Black/Mex schools.

    Those men are OUR ancestors, not their ancestors. Let the school names reflect the race and nation that attends the schools.

    No more black and Mexican cultural appropriation of our nation and our leaders. No more false advertising. No more dragging our ancestors’ names through the dirt by fixing them on violent, ignorant, cesspit minority schools.

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  13. SF Official Suggests Taking Slaveholders’ Names Off Schools

    Now that’s funny especially since the schools, many of which are supported with dollars extorted from tax slaves, are mainly in the business of training nice, compliant, unthinking, obedient tax slaves in addition to providing nice, cushy sinecures for the scum among us.

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  14. @unit472
    Where do you stop? Slavery was a lawful practice in Washington's time. If Washington had freed his slaves and kicked them off his plantation would they have been better off? Would they have even survived?

    Where do you stop? Slavery was a lawful practice in Washington’s time.

    The question isn’t whether it was lawful or not. It’s whether it was moral or not.

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    • Replies: @unit472
    If you want to be obtuse I will try again.

    A farmer cannot simply decide he no longer wants to care for his livestock and cease to feed them. He will be arrested for animal cruelty. The same logic/morality would apply in the age of slavery. An owner has an obligation to provide for his slaves. He cannot simply buy a cotton gin and throw those slaves who did that work off of his plantation because he no longer needs them. He has to either sell them to a new owner or, in some fashion, provide for them. Ownership of a diary cow or a slave was not absolute even in 1820. They had 'morals' then too.

    , @pyrrhus
    The Athenians had slaves, lots of them. Delete Plato and Socrates from Philosophy books?
    , @Drapetomaniac
    "It’s whether it was moral or not."

    Killing the vanquished was at one time moral, then it evolved to enslaving the vanquished as moral, and now to the morally evolved, political enslavement is moral.

    Perhaps someday Man will evolve beyond considering men as property.
  15. Amasius says:

    ‘Another school that might want to think about a new name, Haney said, is Francis Scott Key Elementary School — which was named for the slave-owning lyricist of “The Star-Spangled Banner.”’

    Hell, get rid of “The Star-Spangled Banner” altogether. Replace it with “A$$” by Big Sean.

    http://genius.com/Big-sean-dance-a-lyrics

    It’s high time we had an anthem that reflected our multicultural, feminist values.

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  16. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Speaking of San Francisco, let’s take a walk down Memory Lane and talk of pots and kettles.

    This is a long quote, but worth reading because it bears directly upon the nature of the people, government and economy of the Mexican residents of California right before the Mexican/American war in which the territory of California was won over. Today’s Mexican immigrants need reminding of the relative primitive state of their former, native, social forms. As the quotes below show, they have no ground to stand upon when criticizing Washington, Jefferson et al as slave owners.

    Here is a fresh-eyed, nonjudgmental description of California under Mexican rule in 1840 by Richard Henry Dana, quoted from his classic, Two Years Before The Mast. The ship Dana sailed on was engaged in trading goods made in New England for raw cow hides produced by the ranches in the interior of California. The hides were loaded in the four locations listed below.

    At that time, California was part of Mexico, which had thrown off the yoke of Spanish rule in 1821. There were four principle districts whose centers were San Diego, Los Angeles, Monterey and San Francisco. These were very small towns, maybe 500 to 2000 inhabitants. (My bolds, for emphasis on Sailer-related topics)

    “Among the Spaniards there is no working class (the Indians being slaves and doing all the hard work) and every rich man looks like a grande, and every poor scamp like a broken-down gentleman. I have often seen a man with a fine figure, and courteous manners, dressed in broadcloth and velvet, with a noble horse completely covered with trappings, without a real in his pockets, and absolutely suffering for something to eat.”

    “The Californians are an idle, thriftless people and can make nothing for themselves. …Their hides too, which they value at two dollars in money, they give for something which cost seventy-five cents in Boston, and buy shoes, (as like as not made of their own hides, which have been carried twice round Cape Horn) at three and four dollars….”

    [MORE]

    Those who are of pure Spanish blood, having never intermarried with the aborigines, have clear brunette complexions, and sometimes, even as fair as those of English women. There are but few of these families in California; being mostly those in official stations, or who, on the expiration of their offices, have settled here upon property which they have acquired; and others who have been banished for state offenses. These form the aristocracy; intermarrying, keeping up an exclusive system in every respect. They can be told by their complexions, dress, manner, and also by their speech; for calling themselves, Castilians, they are very ambitious of speaking the pure Castilian language….From this upper class, they go down by regular shades, growing more and more dark and muddy, until you come to the pure Indian, who runs about with nothing upon him but a small piece of cloth….Generally speaking, each person’s caste is decided by the quality of the blood….the least drop of Spanish blood, if it be only of quarto on or octoroon, is sufficient to raise them from the rank of slaves and entitle them to a suit of clothes–and to call themselves Espanolos, and to hold property, if they can get any.”

    “The fondness of dress among the women is excessive, and is often the ruin of many of them.”

    “The truth is, they have no credit system, no banks, and no way of investing money but in cattle. They have no circulating medium but silver and hides–which the sailors call California bank notes. Everything that they buy they must pay for in one or the other of these things.”

    “Monterey…in the centre of it is an open square, surrounded by four lines of one-story plastered buildings, with half a dozen cannon in the center’ some mounted and others not. This the “Presidio”, or fort. Every town has a presidio in its centre’ or rather, every presidio has a town built around it for the forts were first built by the Mexican government and then the people built near them for protection….There were several officers with long titles, and about eighty soldiers, but they were poorly paid, fed, clothed and disciplined. The governor-general, or as he is commonly called, the
    “general” lives here; which makes it the seat of government. He is appointed by
    the central government at Mexico, and is the chief civil and military officer. In addition to him, each town has a commandant, who is the chief military officer and has charge of the fort, and of all transactions with foreigners and foreign vessels; and two or there alcaldis and corregidores, elected by the inhabitants, who are the civil officers. Courts and jurisprudence they have no knowledge of. Small municipal matters are regulated by the alcaldis and corregidores; and everything relating to the general government, to the military and to foreigners, by the commandants, acting under the governor-general. Capital cases are decided by him, upon personal inspection, if he is near; or upon minutes sent by the proper officers, if the offender is at a distant place. No Prostestant has any civil rights nor can he hold any property, or, indeed, remain more than a few weeks on shore, unless he belonged to some vessel. Consequently, the Americans and English who intend to reside here become Catholics, to a man; the current phrase among them being,–’A man must leave his conscience at Cape Horn.’”
    ….
    The Indians, as I have said before, do all the hard work, two or three being attached to each house; and the poorest persons are able to keep one, at least,for they have only to feed them and give them a small piece of course sloth and a belt, for the males; and a coarse gown, without shoes or stockings, for the females.”

    “In Monterey there are a number of English and Americans who have married Californians, become united to the Catholic church and acquired considerable property. Having more industry, frugality, and enterprise than the natives, they soon get nearly all the trade into their hands. They usually keep shops in which they retail goods purchased in larger quantities from our vessels, and also send a good deal into the interior, taking hides in pay, which they again barter with our vessels. In every town on the coast there are foreigners engaged in this kind of trade, while I recollect but two shops kept by natives. The people are naturally suspicious of foreigners, and they would not be allowed to remain, were it not that they become good Catholics, and by marrying natives, and bringing up their children as Catholics and Spaniards, and not teaching them the English language, they quiet suspicion…”

    “Nothing but the character of the people prevents Monterey from becoming a great town.”

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  17. @interesting
    "But slavery was America’s original sin.”

    America's? how the fuck is America getting all the blame for slavery? America wasn't even a country until 1776 and 90 years later abolished slavery. Of the countries receiving slaves Brazil was the main place they were shipped.

    How is it only the United States "owes" for slavery?

    WTF is going on? please, somebody make the insanity stop.

    p.s. 2%-4% of all slaves when to North America.

    America wasn’t even a country until 1776 and 90 years later abolished slavery.

    Sorry to quibble, but whut skool didja lern that in?

    Duz 1789 mean anything to yi?

    Also, was slavery really abolished, or just made more palatable? Was Mr. Tolstoy all wet here?

    “But in reality the abolition of serfdom and of slavery was only the abolition of an obsolete form of slavery that had become unnecessary, and the substitution for it of a firmer form of slavery and one that holds a greater number of people in bondage.”

    - Leo Tolstoy, Slavery of Our Times, Chap 8, 11 July, 1900

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  18. Barnard says:
    @Paul Yarbles
    After the Commies took power, they changed all the names. A victorious revolutionary movement wipes the slate clean and then builds a perfect society. A society where leaders like Mr. Haney will have the power they deserve. Power coupled with strong feelings of moral righteousness. What a wonderful combination! Intoxicating! Different religion, same stupidity.

    The whole point of pushing the ideas that American heroes are unworthy of our respect and that American history is sinful is to demoralize those of us today who are viewed as beneficiaries of this rotten system and, also, to delegitimize the ways in which we gained our prosperity. It is preparation for the glorious day when the poor victims can finally stomp our faces into the mud and rob us blind.

    Such rubbish really should not be tolerated a bit.

    I’m somewhat surprised liberals in California haven’t tried to rename some of the cities with Christian names. It is possible they don’t understand the origin of name like Sacramento though.

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  19. unit472 says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Where do you stop? Slavery was a lawful practice in Washington’s time.
     
    The question isn't whether it was lawful or not. It's whether it was moral or not.

    If you want to be obtuse I will try again.

    A farmer cannot simply decide he no longer wants to care for his livestock and cease to feed them. He will be arrested for animal cruelty. The same logic/morality would apply in the age of slavery. An owner has an obligation to provide for his slaves. He cannot simply buy a cotton gin and throw those slaves who did that work off of his plantation because he no longer needs them. He has to either sell them to a new owner or, in some fashion, provide for them. Ownership of a diary cow or a slave was not absolute even in 1820. They had ‘morals’ then too.

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    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    Amazing stuff there. I'da never guessed any of it. LOL!

    WTF are you trying to say?

    Do you even know what I was trying to point out or what "obtuse" means?
  20. 1) I read this, and I ponder Muhammed Ali’s comment when asked what he thought about his visit to Africa, replied that he was grateful his granddaddy got on the boat. Considering how much worse lives of the descendants of the slaves might have been if the slaves had never been slaves, maybe we ought to be naming even more schools for former slaveholders and even slave traders.

    2) Forgive me for echoing All Lives Matter, which is clearly a racist insult to some, but the black descendants of African slaves brought to the Americas are not the only people to have descended from slaves, so how is it that they now exclusively own the mantle of victimhood for all of slavery ever? Don’t the Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians, who built their empires almost entirely on slavery, get to share some of the discredit for what they did to other Greeks, Germans and Jews, among others?

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  21. Avery says:

    Since the institution of US Senate was copied from the Roman Senate, and since slavery in the Roman Republic was institutionalized, in all fairness, the US Senate must be abolished: it is outrageous that an institution that traces its roots to a society that practiced widespread slavery, is allowed to exist in this day and age.

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  22. pyrrhus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Where do you stop? Slavery was a lawful practice in Washington’s time.
     
    The question isn't whether it was lawful or not. It's whether it was moral or not.

    The Athenians had slaves, lots of them. Delete Plato and Socrates from Philosophy books?

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    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete

    The Athenians had slaves, lots of them. Delete Plato and Socrates from Philosophy books?

     

    ??? What does that have to do with anything? FYI< Plato and Socrates were, generally speaking, statists who advocated aristocracy too, so what?
  23. @Jacques Sheete

    Where do you stop? Slavery was a lawful practice in Washington’s time.
     
    The question isn't whether it was lawful or not. It's whether it was moral or not.

    “It’s whether it was moral or not.”

    Killing the vanquished was at one time moral, then it evolved to enslaving the vanquished as moral, and now to the morally evolved, political enslavement is moral.

    Perhaps someday Man will evolve beyond considering men as property.

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    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    What???

    I must be suffering from Dysesthesia aethiopica er sumpin.
  24. @Adar.
    "p.s. 2%-4% of all slaves when to North America."

    British North America. Or am I quibbling?

    not quibbling at all, stating facts…..and i wish more people would start doing that

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  25. @pyrrhus
    The Athenians had slaves, lots of them. Delete Plato and Socrates from Philosophy books?

    The Athenians had slaves, lots of them. Delete Plato and Socrates from Philosophy books?

    ??? What does that have to do with anything? FYI< Plato and Socrates were, generally speaking, statists who advocated aristocracy too, so what?

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  26. @Drapetomaniac
    "It’s whether it was moral or not."

    Killing the vanquished was at one time moral, then it evolved to enslaving the vanquished as moral, and now to the morally evolved, political enslavement is moral.

    Perhaps someday Man will evolve beyond considering men as property.

    What???

    I must be suffering from Dysesthesia aethiopica er sumpin.

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  27. @unit472
    If you want to be obtuse I will try again.

    A farmer cannot simply decide he no longer wants to care for his livestock and cease to feed them. He will be arrested for animal cruelty. The same logic/morality would apply in the age of slavery. An owner has an obligation to provide for his slaves. He cannot simply buy a cotton gin and throw those slaves who did that work off of his plantation because he no longer needs them. He has to either sell them to a new owner or, in some fashion, provide for them. Ownership of a diary cow or a slave was not absolute even in 1820. They had 'morals' then too.

    Amazing stuff there. I’da never guessed any of it. LOL!

    WTF are you trying to say?

    Do you even know what I was trying to point out or what “obtuse” means?

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  28. Svigor says:

    We should link all of this stuff to refusing to tax the descendants of slaveholders. The establishment and the gov’t shouldn’t want our money. It shouldn’t be good enough for them.

    An idea whose time has come.

    Regretably, as a descendant of slaveholders, my money isn’t good enough for respectable folks.

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  29. Svigor says:

    They had ‘morals’ then too.

    Idiots and lefties would rather shit on their betters, the dead founders of this country, who can’t defend themselves. No point in arguing with people like that, really.

    I wouldn’t trade one random white southerner from the slaveholding days for all the blacks and SJWs alive.

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  30. Ben Frank says:

    In literary and historical analysis, presentism is the anachronistic introduction of present-day ideas and perspectives into depictions or interpretations of the past. Some modern historians seek to avoid presentism in their work because they consider it a form of cultural bias, and believe it creates a distorted understanding of their subject matter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentism_(literary_and_historical_analysis)

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  31. JackOH says:

    Good Lord! Does this Matt Haney not understand that his resolution is deeply anti-humanist, anti-liberal, and is more in tune with the kind of utopian political hygiene practiced during The Terror, and later, under Herr Hitler, Comrade Stalin, and all their buds. Okay, General Washington was a flawed man whose memory needs to be effaced. What’s up next, Bro’ Haney?

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