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Poll: 46 Percent of Trump Voters Believe 'Pizzagate' Theory

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Nearly half of Donald Trump voters believe in “Pizzagate,” according to a new poll from The Economist/YouGov.

Interestingly, 17 percent of Clinton supporters also agreed that the leaked emails from Clinton campaign chair John Podesta used code words to discuss a pedophilia and human trafficking ring, a disproven theory that began circulating online shortly before the election.

The poll, conducted after an armed North Carolina man walked into Chevy Chase’s Comet Ping Ping to “self-investigate” the claims, found that Trump supporters were not the only ones with a propensity for conspiracy theories.

Half of polled Clinton supporters, for instance, believe that Russia tampered with vote tallies to help Donald Trump win the election—another theory with no evidence to back it up—as compared to 9 percent of Trump voters.

Another Russia-related theory, that Russia hacked Democratic emails to help Trump, has 87 percent of Clinton voters on board, and has the backing of the Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigations. However, 80 percent of Trump voters do not agree with the CIA and FBI’s conclusions.

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  1. The truth is that both of these issues are quite complex, and there exists genuine evidence for and against each of the polled propositions.
    Perhaps the “proper” response to these poll questions is simply to refuse a yes/no answer, and to articulate what you actually think and why. At least this would be honest.

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    Pizzagate is ridiculous.

    I don’t believe any of it.

    BUT it did reveal how decadent, trashy, and soulless the ruling elites are.
    Their culture tastes and sensibility are foul, beneath contempt. That such moral degenerates and perverts are part of the inner-circle of power says much about the nature of globalism.

    Liberals are liberal no more. They are just a bunch of Perverals.

    But the idea of a child-kidnapping ring and all that.. LOL..

    I must say, however, some of the videos are hilarious.
    If people wanna believe something, there is no end.
    It’s like the theory that Kubrick faked the moon landing.

  3. “a disproven theory”

    By whom? How the hell has it been disproven when it hasn’t even been investigated? God, the legacy media is pathetic.

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  4. …”a disproven theory that began circulating online shortly before the election”

    Disproven? When did this happen?

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    The Russian hacking controversy was thoroughly debunked. It’s the Dems who got yet another reason for embarrassment, namely the sheer incompetence of their IT security. John Podesta was duped by an old, old phishing device, and the fact that some ancient Ukrainian malware was used to exploit his ineptitude isn’t evidence of Russian state involvement.

    The New York Times and other liberal media have indulged in the irrelevant information fallacy. They published endless flowcharts of Russian intelligence agencies and said that the Russian state hires hackers. This proves nothing–everyone does those things–but this drivel is effective at stoking the clintonistas.

    The MSM indulged in fallacy because they have nothing else beside claims of secret evidence by spook agencies. Given the ruthless politicization of federal agencies under Obama, such claims should be taken with a truckload of salt. Not only that, but visiting swift, brutal punishment on wayward spooks would be a great way for Trump to start his presidency with a bang.

    In contrast, Pizzagate was never investigated despite quite substantial evidence. The authorities and the MSM won’t touch it, but hackers and citizen-journalists have blindsided them before. Stay tuned.

    Unfortunately this Keystone Kop “investigator” did the suspects a huge service. This inane guy will provide fodder for the entirety of the MSM’s “coverage” of Pizzagate.

  6. Nov 20, 2016 PEDO BROS. SMOKING GUN: The Podesta Brothers & Madeleine McCann

    Mounting circumstantial evidence now suggests that Tony and John Podesta should be investigated in the case of 3-year old Madeleine McCann who disappeared from her parents holiday apartment in Portugal on May 3, 2007. Evidence that may implicate the Podesta brother’s as being involved in this case continues to build, and if new information uncovered by anonymous researchers is true, the Podesta brothers have a LOT of explaining to do.

  7. The only legacy they have is a lying legacy! Jun. 14, 2012 These 6 Corporations Control 90% Of The Media In America

    That’s consolidated from 50 companies back in 1983. But the fact that a few companies own everything demonstrates “the illusion of choice,” Frugal Dad says. While some big sites, like Digg and Reddit aren’t owned by any of the corporations, Time Warner owns news sites read by millions of Americans every year.

  8. Until Pizza Gate broke there was no connection between the Podestas and the abduction and probable rape-murder of Maddy McCann, which occurred on 3 May 2007, nearly a decade before Pizza Gate. Internet users interested in the McCann case got their first look at the Podestas when they stumbled on postings about Pizza Gate containing pictures of John and Tony Podesta. These amateur researchers of the McCann case – most with no prior interest in Pizza Gate — immediately noticed a striking resemblance between police sketches of suspects in the McCann abduction, created immediately after the abduction, and photos of the the Podestas.

    Wkileaks of Tony Podesta’s emails revealed that at some point Podesta had purged all emails prior to 4 May 2007, a striking coincidence, since this is the day after McCann’s abduction. Several years ago, the Washington Post ran a column on John Podesta’s “art” collection, which even the Post writer admitted was disturbing, since the larger part of the collection was various graphic images of the bondage, torture, sexual abuse, and murder of children.

    The Podestas are part of a larger circle which regularly holds functions at a small cluster of pizzerias in Washington DC. A few years ago the Washington Post described the owner/operator of one of these as being among the fifty most powerful men in DC. Evidently this was an inside joke since the compiler of this list of the most powerful men in the most power driven city in the world never explained why a pizzeria owner made his list of the fifty most powerful.

    Even before McCann’s disappearance a document was widely disseminated on the internet which purported to be an FBI bulletin summarizing code words and symbols used by pedophiles. Whether or not this was a real FBI document it received a lot of attention and significant mention in several MSM outlets. Over a decade later the pizzerias mentioned above were using these symbols and referents in their logos and other advertising. When Pizza Gate broke the symbols and referents were mostly removed although they can still be seen in archived internet material. Photographs and videos show graphiti and stage banter in these pizzerias that obviously refer to pedophilia.

    But there has been a massive coverup of this by the establishment’s MSM lick-spittle flunkies and only the amateur sleuths on the internet and their followers are aware of the sickeningly evil crimes that are still being committed as we speak. And it is not like we do not have many past examples of this now. Consider just these cases which the the MSM dismissed – and in some cases are still dismissing – as rabid right wing fantasies until the evidence and stench became too great to ignore :

    (1) the coverup of the Franklin pedophilia ring ( Google “Frankiln pedophilia”. Sample: )

    (2) the coverup of a child kidnapping, rape, torture and murder ring catering to Belgium’s and the EU’s elites, including thoise with a taste for real “snuff films” (Google Dutroux pedophilia scandal Belgium”. Sample:”

    (3) the coverup of organized Muslim rings gang-raping and then pimping underage girls in Rotherham England (Google “Rotherham scandal”. Sample: )

    (4) the coverup of the Muslim-fueled rape epidemic in Malmo, Sweden (Google “Malmo rape”. Sample:

  9. I don’t know if “Pizzagate” is true but it certainly seems that Podesta was interested in creepy “artwork” and that weird dinner ritual with blood or whatever is disgusting IMHO. Similarly the artwork and musicians apparently featured at the DC pizzaria seem very creepy.

    What I *do* know for certain is that there is widespread abuse (sexual and otherwise) of children and we only need to look at the Jimmy Savile scandal in the UK and the Catholic priest scandals (in USA, UK, Ireland, Australia, and elsewhere) to realise it sometimes reaches the highest levels of power in the media, government, or church, and that this abuse is routinely covered up and even enabled by the establishment.

    So again, Pizzagate may be a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, but on the other hand it might actually be true.

    It even seems that MI5 in the UK recorded politicians’ activity with children for blackmailing purposes. This stuff goes very deep, and is very scary.

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  10. Pizzagate is believed because, for those who look, there is a lot of evidence to support it. And three major child trafficking rings have been broken up in the last 2 months. But the media, doubtless including this “journalist”, doesn’t really think child sex should be illegal anyway. As demonstrate by California’s new law legalizing it….

  11. “What I *do* know for certain is that there is widespread abuse (sexual and otherwise) of children and we only need to look at the Jimmy Savile scandal in the UK and the Catholic priest scandals….”

    And don’t forget the persistant rumors (and more than rumors) about abuse in Hollywood. Of course, Hollywood will never make a movie about this like they did about the abuse scandals in the Catholic Church.

  12. “I don’t know if “Pizzagate” is true but it certainly seems that Podesta was interested in creepy “artwork” and that weird dinner ritual with blood or whatever is disgusting IMHO. Similarly the artwork and musicians apparently featured at the DC pizzaria seem very creepy.”

    Quite so. And some of the events with these music acts were called “family friendly” by Comet Ping-Pong Pizza, when they clearly were not something that children should be exposed to.

    And, as you said, Tony Podesta’s taste in art is creepy, bordering on the truly disturbing. There is some smoke there, so I can’t hold it against people that they came to think there might some fire too.

  13. Right. They could have said “unsubstantiated” or “unproven” and would have been quite correct, but I guess that would leave too much doubt in readers’ minds.

  14. I believe there is something to Pizzagate but that does not mean I buy all the details offered.

    Were I a Podesta I’d be sourcing all sorts of ludicrous theories all over the place just on the standard cuttlefish defense.

    I find the provable fact that GQ named a Pizza tosser as number 50 on their list of “Most influential men in Washington DC ” a couple of years ago stunningly unlikely absent some blackmail material.

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  15. Because GQ is known for its in-depth analysis of power brokers rather than fluff about culture and fashion trends. [/sarcasm]

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  16. But why a pizza shop owner/manager? And why this particular one? And this fellow and his occupation stood out like a sore thumb when compared against most others on the list.

    Start here:

    Alefantis is here:

    BTW, the more I investigate this the more verifiable information I get that could serve as evidence in a trial and would certainly – under ordinary circumstances – initiate a criminal investigation.

  17. Because GQ is known for its in-depth analysis of power brokers rather than fluff about culture and fashion trends. [/sarcasm]

    Your sarcasm is misplaced.

    The list (BTW, 4+ years old) contains a number of unexpected individuals in unexpected spots precisely because GQ don’t bother with an orthodox “in-depth analysis”of the matrix of institutional and individual influence.
    Instead, their list is interesting because GQ no doubt used its culturally sensitive ear to listen to what “the street” is saying. This approach opens the field to include unorthodox centres of power, not normally considered in a more formal in-depth analysis of (cultural/policy/political/legal/industrial/financial/military) power brokers.
    IOW, if the definition of power/influence is the ability to get both friends and enemies to do one’s bidding, and if Pizzagate turns out to have substance, a lowly “Pizza tosser” can have the kind of influence only “the street” knows about.

  18. “believe in”??
    We are not talking about religion.
    How can anyone “believe in” a scandal?

    How was the question framed?
    “Do you believe in Pizzagate? Answer yes or no.”
    Or was it, say, “Are you persuaded by information you have seen so far that an investigation of the circumstances surrounding so-called Pizzagate is called for?”

    Nah, didn’t think so . . .
    Can we get a more nuanced report of this poll?
    Such a poll, it seems to me, mainly serves the purpose of providing material to trolls looking for ways to ridicule the idea that Pizzagate should be investigated.

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