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A Trump administration lawyer told an apparently skeptical federal judge Friday that President Trump’s executive order against so-called sanctuary cities, such as San Francisco, doesn’t deprive them of federal funding — at least not yet — but merely encourages them to follow immigration laws.

“There’s been no action threatened or taken against the cities,” Assistant Attorney General Chad Readler said at a hearing in San Francisco on a lawsuit by San Francisco and Santa Clara County. He said Trump, in a Jan. 25 order that spoke of withholding federal funds from cities and counties that refused to cooperate with federal immigration agents, was just using a “bully pulpit” to advocate compliance.

But U.S. District Judge William Orrick III said Attorney General Jeff Sessions has publicly identified San Francisco as a sanctuary city, and Trump has also criticized the city’s immigration policy.

In the first legal test of Trump’s executive order, Orrick is considering San Francisco and Santa Clara County’s request for an injunction that would halt enforcement of the order against more than 300 cities and counties nationwide. After a 70-minute hearing in his San Francisco courtroom, Orrick said he would issue a ruling “as soon as I can.”

Readler had argued that the two counties lacked standing — the right to challenge the executive order — because they faced no prospect of immediate harm. But Orrick noted that San Francisco has received as much as $2 billion a year in federal funding, and Santa Clara County $1.7 billion.

“Why don’t they have standing?” he asked.

“There’s no actual enforcement action on the table,” Readler replied. He said “sanctuary cities,” which would face future penalties under Trump’s order, is a term that “means different things to different people.”

 
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  1. Looks like Trump, for all his (likely compensatory) airstrikes against defenseless and hapless people across the ocean, is proving to be a bit of a paper tiger.

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  2. Rod1963 says:

    Trump is a schemer and manipulator but also shallow and gutless when pushed.

    That wasn’t the problem. He came into D.C. with no friends among the GOP except Sessions, Cotton and a couple of others like Nunez. The GOP did nothing to help and still doesn’t. They repeatedly screwed with him from day one.

    This made him vulnerable.

    Then came the initial allegations he was unfit for office, then leaks by the spook agencies about his phone conversations(which never followed up on). Talk of impeachment, Ryan and McConnell both hated him, etc. I didn’t think he’ll make it to the end of the year(I still don’t, his penchant for spending so much time at Mar-i-logo – we’re not getting anywhere near the full story)

    The Deep State then surfaced in the form of Rice and Obama along with the British intel agency who spied on him during the election.

    Then he abandons Nunez and lets him resign his post. If you notice, no one in GOP leadership supported him.

    Around the same time Bannon and his small group of nationalists becomes persona-non-grata. while Ivanka and Kushner become his principal advisers. And then we find a bunch of Goldman-Sachs alumni filling the back bench and advisory positions.

    Oh yeah he’s stopped using the phrase “Islamic terrorism”.

    And he can’t even run the Eastern Egg hunt right.

    All of this is so f**ked up it’s not even funny. It’s like the establishments and globalists declared war on him and he along with his staff just gave up.

    Of course it will be nothing like the shitstorm he’ll get from his base once they realize he betrayed them on everything.

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    It’s like the establishments and globalists declared war on him and he along with his staff just gave up.
     
    More like they realized it's a fight they couldn't win, as no elected official, not even POTUS, can ever hope to match the effectively-insurmountable power of the Establisment.

    Of course it will be nothing like the shitstorm he’ll get from his base once they realize he betrayed them on everything.
     
    And just what will this "shitstorm" accomplish?
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  3. I think that what’s actually the issue here is ripeness, not standing. Common law courts have traditionally been unwilling to decide cases on the basis of actions that might be taken, rather than actions actually taken, although the idea of ripeness is kind of flexible. Common law courts generally don’t give advisory opinions, for example, although some state supreme courts do so on constitutional issues. Sensible common law principles don’t seem to be much in vogue today however, so I predict the courts will take the case even in the absence of concrete action against sanctuary cities by the Trump Administration. It doesn’t sound as if the Trump Administration is really serious about it anyway.

    Daddy isn’t coming to save us; it’s up to us now.

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    Daddy isn’t coming to save us; it’s up to us now.
     
    Up to us to do what, exactly? What can we do, really?
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  4. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I’m still holding out some hope for Trump…

    But it is getting more difficult with each passing day. I was kind of expecting some bold moves – a fighting spirit at least.

    He seems deflated. I can’t understand what is going on – is he being threatened? Why did he run for office in the first place? What was the purpose of it all?

    He knows what is going on – he knows the issues that matter and what he should be doing about them, but its seems he won’t or can’t.

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    He seems deflated. I can’t understand what is going on – is he being threatened?
     
    Perhaps, but more likely he simply discovered that the President — like the rest of the temporary, merely-elected government — doesn't really have the power the deceived masses think he does. That, while on paper the bureaucrats of the Executive branch answer to POTUS, in reality it's more the other way around, and he can't actually say "you're fired" to them. They're permanent, and beyond the reach of the electorate. We may vote as we wish, and they will act as they will regardless.

    He knows what is going on – he knows the issues that matter and what he should be doing about them, but its seems he won’t or can’t.
     
    Almost certanly can't. No quantity of elected officials can. No matter how we vote, the real, permanent government will do what it wants. If voting mattered, it would be illegal.
    , @hbm
    I feel the same way you do. It's hard to tell what exactly happened recently and what he's doing now. It seemed like, about two weeks ago or so, all that "Russian conspiracy" garbage was coming to a head and something happened

    I've wondered if with the endless assault from the Left and the media, and with Ryan clearly only working to sandbag him, if he calculated that he would either have to change course if he wanted to get anything at all done; if he kept fighting all the bullshit he would accomplish nothing.

    Whether he's really moved to the center or not remains to be seen, but filling up the White house with Cohens and Kushners and Gorelicks and Powells and the rest of the gang does not look good.
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  5. Kevin C. says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm still holding out some hope for Trump...

    But it is getting more difficult with each passing day. I was kind of expecting some bold moves - a fighting spirit at least.

    He seems deflated. I can't understand what is going on - is he being threatened? Why did he run for office in the first place? What was the purpose of it all?

    He knows what is going on - he knows the issues that matter and what he should be doing about them, but its seems he won't or can't.

    He seems deflated. I can’t understand what is going on – is he being threatened?

    Perhaps, but more likely he simply discovered that the President — like the rest of the temporary, merely-elected government — doesn’t really have the power the deceived masses think he does. That, while on paper the bureaucrats of the Executive branch answer to POTUS, in reality it’s more the other way around, and he can’t actually say “you’re fired” to them. They’re permanent, and beyond the reach of the electorate. We may vote as we wish, and they will act as they will regardless.

    He knows what is going on – he knows the issues that matter and what he should be doing about them, but its seems he won’t or can’t.

    Almost certanly can’t. No quantity of elected officials can. No matter how we vote, the real, permanent government will do what it wants. If voting mattered, it would be illegal.

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  6. Kevin C. says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I think that what's actually the issue here is ripeness, not standing. Common law courts have traditionally been unwilling to decide cases on the basis of actions that might be taken, rather than actions actually taken, although the idea of ripeness is kind of flexible. Common law courts generally don't give advisory opinions, for example, although some state supreme courts do so on constitutional issues. Sensible common law principles don't seem to be much in vogue today however, so I predict the courts will take the case even in the absence of concrete action against sanctuary cities by the Trump Administration. It doesn't sound as if the Trump Administration is really serious about it anyway.

    Daddy isn't coming to save us; it's up to us now.

    Daddy isn’t coming to save us; it’s up to us now.

    Up to us to do what, exactly? What can we do, really?

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    Yeah.

    Trump has called it a "movement" but we the people are virtually powerless and that's why we elected him. I've been asking myself your question for months. What can we do to help him? We got him elected; the Rs control both houses. What are we supposed to rally for?

    I guess maybe if we were an electorate still worth a damn we would be in the streets for America First and defending our President, but I'm not sure we're capable.
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  7. Kevin C. says:
    @Rod1963
    Trump is a schemer and manipulator but also shallow and gutless when pushed.

    That wasn't the problem. He came into D.C. with no friends among the GOP except Sessions, Cotton and a couple of others like Nunez. The GOP did nothing to help and still doesn't. They repeatedly screwed with him from day one.

    This made him vulnerable.

    Then came the initial allegations he was unfit for office, then leaks by the spook agencies about his phone conversations(which never followed up on). Talk of impeachment, Ryan and McConnell both hated him, etc. I didn't think he'll make it to the end of the year(I still don't, his penchant for spending so much time at Mar-i-logo - we're not getting anywhere near the full story)

    The Deep State then surfaced in the form of Rice and Obama along with the British intel agency who spied on him during the election.

    Then he abandons Nunez and lets him resign his post. If you notice, no one in GOP leadership supported him.

    Around the same time Bannon and his small group of nationalists becomes persona-non-grata. while Ivanka and Kushner become his principal advisers. And then we find a bunch of Goldman-Sachs alumni filling the back bench and advisory positions.

    Oh yeah he's stopped using the phrase "Islamic terrorism".

    And he can't even run the Eastern Egg hunt right.

    All of this is so f**ked up it's not even funny. It's like the establishments and globalists declared war on him and he along with his staff just gave up.

    Of course it will be nothing like the shitstorm he'll get from his base once they realize he betrayed them on everything.

    It’s like the establishments and globalists declared war on him and he along with his staff just gave up.

    More like they realized it’s a fight they couldn’t win, as no elected official, not even POTUS, can ever hope to match the effectively-insurmountable power of the Establisment.

    Of course it will be nothing like the shitstorm he’ll get from his base once they realize he betrayed them on everything.

    And just what will this “shitstorm” accomplish?

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  8. Wally says:

    I suspect Trump is waiting until he gets some judges in place.

    President Donald Trump to fill 117 vacancies on various federal courts.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/10/there-are-still-117-court-vacancies-to-be-filled-by-trump/

    20 Ways Trump Unraveled the Administrative State

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/11/20-ways-trump-unraveled-administrative-state/

    Bit by bit, Trump methodically undoing Obama policies

    http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/89ae8247abe8493fae24405546e9a1aa/Article_2017-04-03-US–Trump-Undoing%20Obama/id-c4fa9fa659394514aa645a7cfd3c31ed

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  9. jtgw says:

    So the feds can deprive states of highway funds if they lower the legal drinking age from a ridiculously high 21, but they can’t deprive states of funds if states refuse to uphold immigration law?

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  10. hbm says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm still holding out some hope for Trump...

    But it is getting more difficult with each passing day. I was kind of expecting some bold moves - a fighting spirit at least.

    He seems deflated. I can't understand what is going on - is he being threatened? Why did he run for office in the first place? What was the purpose of it all?

    He knows what is going on - he knows the issues that matter and what he should be doing about them, but its seems he won't or can't.

    I feel the same way you do. It’s hard to tell what exactly happened recently and what he’s doing now. It seemed like, about two weeks ago or so, all that “Russian conspiracy” garbage was coming to a head and something happened

    I’ve wondered if with the endless assault from the Left and the media, and with Ryan clearly only working to sandbag him, if he calculated that he would either have to change course if he wanted to get anything at all done; if he kept fighting all the bullshit he would accomplish nothing.

    Whether he’s really moved to the center or not remains to be seen, but filling up the White house with Cohens and Kushners and Gorelicks and Powells and the rest of the gang does not look good.

    Read More
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  11. hbm says:
    @Kevin C.

    Daddy isn’t coming to save us; it’s up to us now.
     
    Up to us to do what, exactly? What can we do, really?

    Yeah.

    Trump has called it a “movement” but we the people are virtually powerless and that’s why we elected him. I’ve been asking myself your question for months. What can we do to help him? We got him elected; the Rs control both houses. What are we supposed to rally for?

    I guess maybe if we were an electorate still worth a damn we would be in the streets for America First and defending our President, but I’m not sure we’re capable.

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