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An Alt-Right Makeover Shrouds the Swastikas

A small but determined political organization in Detroit began to worry that its official symbol was a bit off-putting. With the group’s central philosophy suddenly finding traction in the daily discourse, appearances mattered.

So in November, as the country’s divisive presidential campaign became ever more jagged, the National Socialist Movement, a leading neo-Nazi group, did away with its swastika. In its stead, the group chose a symbol from a pre-Roman alphabet that was also adopted by the Nazis.

According to Jeff Schoep, the movement’s leader, the decision to dispense with the swastika was “an attempt to become more integrated and more mainstream.”

Let us pause. Not even two years ago, white supremacists like Mr. Schoep would rant from the fringe of the fringe, their attention-desperate events rarely worth mention. Today, though, the Schoeps of America are undergoing a rebranding, as part of the so-called alt-right: a grab bag of far-right groups generally united by the belief that white identity has become endangered in what they deride as this era of dangerous diversity and political correctness.

The deceptively benign phrase “alt-right” now peppers the national conversation, often in ways that play down its fundamental beliefs, which have long been considered intolerant and hateful. The term’s recent prevalence corresponds with the rise of President-elect Donald J. Trump; alt-right leaders say his inflammatory statements and Twitter habits in the campaign energized, even validated, their movement.

The movement is also acutely image-conscious, seeing the burning crosses, swastikas and language of yesteryear as impediments to recruitment. Its adherents talk of “getting red-pilled,” a reference to the movie “The Matrix,” in which the protagonist ingests a tablet that melts away artifice to reveal the truth. New, coded slurs have emerged. Fewer pointed hoods, more khaki pants.

But the alt-right movement is hardly monolithic, despite a well-publicized gathering last month in Washington — one that might have been mistaken for just another corporate conference were it not for the white-nationalist sentiments and the Nazi salutes. The factions within its ranks can differ on any number of subjects: white supremacy versus white nationalism, for example, or the vexing “J.Q.” — the “Jewish Question.”

 
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  1. The right wing that the establishment can’t recognize is the constitution literalist.

    Constitution literalists can’t be recognized by the establishment because that might give them some legitimacy.

    It also helps the establishment’s false narrative that their enemy is a demon, not the true law of the land.

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  2. White Nationalist Opens Up to The Young Turks

    Published on Dec 6, 2016

    TYT’s Eric Byler (http://www.Twitter.com/EricByler) spoke at length to White Nationalist (Alt-Right) Activist, Nathan Damigo at conference hosted by the National Policy Institute at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington DC. Organizers asked that the faces of conference attendees be blurred to protect their privacy.

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    • Replies: @FKA Max
    Response from Brad Griffin a.k.a. Hunter Wallace [ http://www.unz.com/author/brad-griffin/ ] to the NY Times piece:

    Lügenpresse Smears The Alt-Right


    Here’s the truth: the Alt-Right movement emerged in the mid-2000s, it started as a collection of people who hated George W. Bush and were strongly alienated from mainstream conservatism in their formative years, it is overwhelmingly comprised of White males who are Gen X’ers or Millennials with reactionary politics, most come from middle class households, have college degrees and tend to be more secular in their religious beliefs, it grew out of online anonymous messageboard culture (forums, blogs, social media), and the vast majority of these people have never been affiliated with any Neo-Nazi organization, Klan group, or skinhead gang.

    The Alt-Right are White males (and a smaller proportion of White females) who grew up in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. They are Gen X’ers and Millennials who you can find on almost every college campus in the United States who rejected and rebelled against multiculturalism and political correctness. These are the people who when exposed to doctrinaire multiculturalism took the opposite fork in the road. They resented being demonized and told to be ashamed of their heritage. Whereas the most extreme left-leaning Millennials became SJWs, the most extreme right-leaning Millennials drifted toward the Alt-Right.

    What do I know? I’ve only been interacting with these people on a daily basis for 15 years now online and offline.
     

    - http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12/11/lugenpresse-smears-alt-right/
  3. I thought the article was reasonably fair; the headline atrocious, implying that the entire alt-right is basically Nazi, just undergoing a makeover designed to deceive.

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  4. How many Jews does it take to write a short piece about the Alt-Right in The NYT. The answer is three ( plus an Irish-American ).
    You couldn’t make it up.

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    • Replies: @pyrrhus
    (((They))) did make it up...But glad to see an Irish-American token on the byline. Affirmative Action at the Carlos Slim blog!
    , @Olorin
    Come now.

    "Kovaleski, Turkewitz, Goldstein, and Barry" sounds like a perfectly good name for a Sicilian mafia business partnership!

    FWIW, in NYTlandia, the surname Barry is often an Anglicized version of "Baruch."

    , @dahoit
    I've read in the past that Barry is a Jew too.Outside of GG, Shamir and Unz?,there is not one Jew worth reading for non partisan info.
    If you want to be lied to,there is a plethora.
  5. I have yet to see a MSM characterization of the so-called Alt-Right that rings true to me. The same goes for MSM summaries of Pizzagate or “Fake News”. To really describe these things accurately would require having been tracking them for weeks and months and possibly years.

    Sulzberger at the NYT may have written his “letter to the readers” immediately after the election vowing to do a better job journalistically, but they are still running articles as straight “news” that read like Op-Ed page punditry.

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  6. generally united by the belief that white identity has become endangered in [...] this era of dangerous diversity and political correctness

    Remove all the editorializing language plus the terms “Neo-Nazi” and “White Supremacist” and the article is essentially an endorsement. It also has handy little tags that curious people can grab and pull: “red-pilled”, “Jewish Question”, “White Supremacy vs White Nationalism.”

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    Do these writers reflect the best 3 Jews & and Irishman who work for New York Times can come up with? Another mile-marker on the tragedy of the backward-focused Jewish people.

    "Nazi" used 9 times.
    No other event, no other phenomenon, no other happening in the past 100 years, in this whole wide world, is as important to these 3 Jews than "Nazi" and the ever-scary ssssswwaaasstika.

    How sad.

    Unable to move forward, incapable of reflecting self-awareness of one's place in the larger world; more stuck in the shtetl than the fiddler on the roof.

    On the other hand -- I just tried to listen to Richard Spencer.

    What a dolt.

    Is this the best the millennial generation has to offer?

    His message is inchoate.
    The reincarnation of Hitler he is not; you have to hand it to the NSDAP: they knew how to create a happening.
    Spencer.
    is.
    boring.
    He's incoherent.
    Are we absolutely positive Spencer is not a CIA asset programmed to ensure that the up-coming generation remains quiescent?


    If you want to hear someone speak, with quiet passion and intellectual rigor, about the importance of valuing one's own cultural, ethnic identity, I suggest Germar Rudolf, in this discussion with Henrik Palmgren on Red Ice radio --

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb3iAaFSEGU

  7. @FKA Max
    White Nationalist Opens Up to The Young Turks

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muf3XYTXfHk

    Published on Dec 6, 2016

    TYT's Eric Byler (http://www.Twitter.com/EricByler) spoke at length to White Nationalist (Alt-Right) Activist, Nathan Damigo at conference hosted by the National Policy Institute at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington DC. Organizers asked that the faces of conference attendees be blurred to protect their privacy.

    Response from Brad Griffin a.k.a. Hunter Wallace [ http://www.unz.com/author/brad-griffin/ ] to the NY Times piece:

    Lügenpresse Smears The Alt-Right

    Here’s the truth: the Alt-Right movement emerged in the mid-2000s, it started as a collection of people who hated George W. Bush and were strongly alienated from mainstream conservatism in their formative years, it is overwhelmingly comprised of White males who are Gen X’ers or Millennials with reactionary politics, most come from middle class households, have college degrees and tend to be more secular in their religious beliefs, it grew out of online anonymous messageboard culture (forums, blogs, social media), and the vast majority of these people have never been affiliated with any Neo-Nazi organization, Klan group, or skinhead gang.

    The Alt-Right are White males (and a smaller proportion of White females) who grew up in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. They are Gen X’ers and Millennials who you can find on almost every college campus in the United States who rejected and rebelled against multiculturalism and political correctness. These are the people who when exposed to doctrinaire multiculturalism took the opposite fork in the road. They resented being demonized and told to be ashamed of their heritage. Whereas the most extreme left-leaning Millennials became SJWs, the most extreme right-leaning Millennials drifted toward the Alt-Right.

    What do I know? I’ve only been interacting with these people on a daily basis for 15 years now online and offline.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12/11/lugenpresse-smears-alt-right/

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  8. @BenKenobi

    generally united by the belief that white identity has become endangered in [...] this era of dangerous diversity and political correctness

     

    Remove all the editorializing language plus the terms "Neo-Nazi" and "White Supremacist" and the article is essentially an endorsement. It also has handy little tags that curious people can grab and pull: "red-pilled", "Jewish Question", "White Supremacy vs White Nationalism."

    Do these writers reflect the best 3 Jews & and Irishman who work for New York Times can come up with? Another mile-marker on the tragedy of the backward-focused Jewish people.

    “Nazi” used 9 times.
    No other event, no other phenomenon, no other happening in the past 100 years, in this whole wide world, is as important to these 3 Jews than “Nazi” and the ever-scary ssssswwaaasstika.

    How sad.

    Unable to move forward, incapable of reflecting self-awareness of one’s place in the larger world; more stuck in the shtetl than the fiddler on the roof.

    On the other hand — I just tried to listen to Richard Spencer.

    What a dolt.

    Is this the best the millennial generation has to offer?

    His message is inchoate.
    The reincarnation of Hitler he is not; you have to hand it to the NSDAP: they knew how to create a happening.
    Spencer.
    is.
    boring.
    He’s incoherent.
    Are we absolutely positive Spencer is not a CIA asset programmed to ensure that the up-coming generation remains quiescent?

    If you want to hear someone speak, with quiet passion and intellectual rigor, about the importance of valuing one’s own cultural, ethnic identity, I suggest Germar Rudolf, in this discussion with Henrik Palmgren on Red Ice radio —

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Listen, I try to read some of your BS with an open mind, and you can write all you want about what dem Jews are up to, but you back off Tevye.
  9. “Alt-right” has become a convenient term to tar everyone who sees the corrosive effects of balkanizing multiculturalism and unrestricted immigration as White Nationalists or neo-Nazis. Funny thing is, a lot of those advocating for a white American ethno-state point to Israel as an example of what they want to achieve, wall, legally-discriminated ethnic categories, and all.

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    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
    "Funny thing is, a lot of those advocating for a white American ethno-state point to Israel as an example of what they want to achieve, wall, legally-discriminated ethnic categories, and all."

    Having made, in the large measure, the previously "anti-Semitic" fundamentalist Xians, like the Reverend Hagee, into rabid Zionists, Señor Bibi, working through select Neo-Cons, no doubt now aims at consolidating the fundamentalists with duly Zionist "White Nationalists".

    Bannon for one already fits the bill, doesn't he?

    Had you realized that Israeli contractors scored huge contracts building Bush the younger's wall against Mexico and now for Integrated Tower Systems along the border:

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/jimmy-johnson/contractor-israels-apartheid-wall-wins-us-border-contract?

    One would not be utterly astounded to hear that there are Neo-Con and Israeli entrepeneurs ready to market white satin sheets decorated with crosses, swastikas, mogen davids and "Just say no to Mexico" banners.
  10. @Thirdeye
    "Alt-right" has become a convenient term to tar everyone who sees the corrosive effects of balkanizing multiculturalism and unrestricted immigration as White Nationalists or neo-Nazis. Funny thing is, a lot of those advocating for a white American ethno-state point to Israel as an example of what they want to achieve, wall, legally-discriminated ethnic categories, and all.

    “Funny thing is, a lot of those advocating for a white American ethno-state point to Israel as an example of what they want to achieve, wall, legally-discriminated ethnic categories, and all.”

    Having made, in the large measure, the previously “anti-Semitic” fundamentalist Xians, like the Reverend Hagee, into rabid Zionists, Señor Bibi, working through select Neo-Cons, no doubt now aims at consolidating the fundamentalists with duly Zionist “White Nationalists”.

    Bannon for one already fits the bill, doesn’t he?

    Had you realized that Israeli contractors scored huge contracts building Bush the younger’s wall against Mexico and now for Integrated Tower Systems along the border:

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/jimmy-johnson/contractor-israels-apartheid-wall-wins-us-border-contract?

    One would not be utterly astounded to hear that there are Neo-Con and Israeli entrepeneurs ready to market white satin sheets decorated with crosses, swastikas, mogen davids and “Just say no to Mexico” banners.

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    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    I personally don't care anymore. There's been a lot of bad blood, but the Diverse Horde will consume us all -- in North America, in Europe, and in Israel. We need each other. We need, above all, nuance.

    There will be an entire world in between Israel and Our Fair Republic. Surely there's enough space therein for our two tribes? At the very least a truce before the mud tide drowns us all?
  11. Much ado about nothing.

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’are scientifically impossible frauds.

    Must reads:
    Holocaust Handbooks & Documentaries

    http://holocausthandbooks.com

    and:

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

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  12. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    When it’s not the Nazis!!!!!… it’s the Russkies!!!!

    Anti-Slavicism is the new ‘antisemitism’. Paranoid GLOB blames Russia for EVERYTHING. Maybe Russians use baby blood to make Blini.

    Sounds a bit like projection.

    http://cookingtheglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/russian-pancakes-blini-3.jpg

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    • Replies: @FkDahl
    It is an interesting gedankenexperiment to insert jews (no disrespect meant) as the victim of Kiev and it's neonazis, for example about the massacre in Odessa. Think about it: 100 jews massacred in Odessa, torch marches of neonazis singing song to burning of the jews (instead of Moskals/Colorado bugs ). Unbelievable right?
    Not all victims are equal.
  13. @E. A. Costa
    "Funny thing is, a lot of those advocating for a white American ethno-state point to Israel as an example of what they want to achieve, wall, legally-discriminated ethnic categories, and all."

    Having made, in the large measure, the previously "anti-Semitic" fundamentalist Xians, like the Reverend Hagee, into rabid Zionists, Señor Bibi, working through select Neo-Cons, no doubt now aims at consolidating the fundamentalists with duly Zionist "White Nationalists".

    Bannon for one already fits the bill, doesn't he?

    Had you realized that Israeli contractors scored huge contracts building Bush the younger's wall against Mexico and now for Integrated Tower Systems along the border:

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/jimmy-johnson/contractor-israels-apartheid-wall-wins-us-border-contract?

    One would not be utterly astounded to hear that there are Neo-Con and Israeli entrepeneurs ready to market white satin sheets decorated with crosses, swastikas, mogen davids and "Just say no to Mexico" banners.

    I personally don’t care anymore. There’s been a lot of bad blood, but the Diverse Horde will consume us all — in North America, in Europe, and in Israel. We need each other. We need, above all, nuance.

    There will be an entire world in between Israel and Our Fair Republic. Surely there’s enough space therein for our two tribes? At the very least a truce before the mud tide drowns us all?

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  14. They’re a bit behind. The rest of the Apparatus has moved on to dem durn Russkies as the existential threat to our precious democratic fluids this week.

    NYT could get back in the lead by calling for the revival of HUAC.

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  15. @SolontoCroesus
    Do these writers reflect the best 3 Jews & and Irishman who work for New York Times can come up with? Another mile-marker on the tragedy of the backward-focused Jewish people.

    "Nazi" used 9 times.
    No other event, no other phenomenon, no other happening in the past 100 years, in this whole wide world, is as important to these 3 Jews than "Nazi" and the ever-scary ssssswwaaasstika.

    How sad.

    Unable to move forward, incapable of reflecting self-awareness of one's place in the larger world; more stuck in the shtetl than the fiddler on the roof.

    On the other hand -- I just tried to listen to Richard Spencer.

    What a dolt.

    Is this the best the millennial generation has to offer?

    His message is inchoate.
    The reincarnation of Hitler he is not; you have to hand it to the NSDAP: they knew how to create a happening.
    Spencer.
    is.
    boring.
    He's incoherent.
    Are we absolutely positive Spencer is not a CIA asset programmed to ensure that the up-coming generation remains quiescent?


    If you want to hear someone speak, with quiet passion and intellectual rigor, about the importance of valuing one's own cultural, ethnic identity, I suggest Germar Rudolf, in this discussion with Henrik Palmgren on Red Ice radio --

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb3iAaFSEGU

    Listen, I try to read some of your BS with an open mind, and you can write all you want about what dem Jews are up to, but you back off Tevye.

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  16. >>>khaki pants
    I didn’t realize how long I have been a trendsetter for the Alt-Right!

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    "NOBODY expects the Fash Police Raiders! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise....":

    http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/3907_press01-001.jpg
  17. Shithead white Nationalist supremacists share every political conviction with their Jewish equivalent i.e. the Jewish hive-mind banking/Talmudic collective that dominates the entire western world.
    There’s Nationalism, Socialism, Supremacism, ethnic narcissism and self-preferential racism for a start …

    … so come on you New York Jews … WHAT’S NOT TO LIKE about white supremacism other than it is competition?

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    • Replies: @woodNfish
    Yes, Jews are as racist as the rest of the Left, you just aren't allowed to say that.
    , @utu
    https://justice4poland.com/2016/10/17/jewish-civilization-feliks-koneczny/

    "Feliks Koneczny realizes that Nazism is the strongest form of anti-Semitism, yet he suggests that it is, in a sense, a copy of Jewish civilization. [The scientifically-minded reader may think of matter and antimatter. They are similar, yet opposites.] This is in the sense that Nazism copies the Chosen People and Chosen Race concept. (p. 362, 365). In addition, both systems rely on monolatry. The monolatry in Judaism has already been discussed. As for Nazism, the Germans have a revived tribal war god in Wotan, or in a form of Germanized Christianity (e. g, DEUTSCHE GOTT). (pp. 363-364)."
  18. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Jewish Americans should be rejoicing at the election of Donald Trump. They and their fellow Americans have an opportunity to undo the scourge of Zionism and its diabolical schemes. Witness the complete take over of the governments of Europe by Zionists, particularly France, England and Germany. I expect celebrations on the streets of every city in the US because Donald Trump was right when he said that this election was America’s last chance to break free of the neo-conservative bondage and place America first.

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  19. …the National Socialist Movement, a leading neo-Nazi group, did away with its swastika.

    The lying LSM presstitutes just can’t make up their mind if the right is socialist or conservative.

    The truth is that socialists and their offshoots, such as fascists, are all leftwing democrat party institutions. This includes the amerikan communist party which has been co-opted by the DNC, and the KKK which was created by the democratic party.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    The men who founded the KKK were Southern and most likely Democrats, certainly not Republicans. Please cite any evidence that the KKK was founded by the Democratic Party.
  20. @ThereisaGod
    Shithead white Nationalist supremacists share every political conviction with their Jewish equivalent i.e. the Jewish hive-mind banking/Talmudic collective that dominates the entire western world.
    There's Nationalism, Socialism, Supremacism, ethnic narcissism and self-preferential racism for a start ...

    ... so come on you New York Jews ... WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE about white supremacism other than it is competition?

    Yes, Jews are as racist as the rest of the Left, you just aren’t allowed to say that.

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  21. Nazophobia??

    Swastikaphobia??

    This being the Thanksgiving season, I keep thinking of a brother-in-law: At Thanksgiving at a cousin’s ranch-house (i.e. low ceilings) that nevertheless had an iron chandelier with real, burning candles in it, someone made a remark about opening an umbrella indoors being bad luck.

    Brother-in-law had certain hot buttons; such old wive’s tales/ taboos was one of them. He grabbed an umbrella, opened it wide, and raised it over the dining room table, just to demonstrate to the children in the room that such superstitions were nonsense.

    Well sir, the umbrella tipped one of the candles in the chandelier, it fell on the table and set a napkin alight.

    Someone doused it with water from a water glass as nervous laughter died away.

    Lessons learned?

    Someone needs to fling open the “Nazi salute” and “swastika” umbrella; raise ‘em high, then burn the taboo as meaningless, take a dose of cold water, then get back to the serious business of keeping families together and passing along wisdom to our children.

    Keeping the holocaust, swastika, and Nazi salute bull&%$t alive all these years is narcissistic and infantile. The practice does not speak well for the maturity of Jewish young people, nor for the wisdom of their parents and leaders.

    The practices reflect a downright black heart when groups that have contributed enormously to Jewish success — namely, Germans and Americans — are doggedly, perniciously demonized, their culture and values undermined. That was among the important messages Germar Rudolf communicated in an (otherwise lengthy) video — as a young German, Rudolf recalls the pain of having his and his family’s, and friends, and his whole culture’s noses rubbed in holocaustism. Jews just don’t let up with the vindictiveness; it does not seem to be enough to have destroyed an entire generation of Germans, destroyed many of the monuments to German history, they just keep at it.

    Rudolf — middle-aged by now — reflects a tempered and philosophical outlook that, I suspect, he arrived at after much struggle. Is Germar Rudolf an extraordinary human being who has been able to process the violence done to his career and his family and emerge a passionate but patient person, or does he reflect overall characteristics of the German people collectively?

    One hopes the latter.

    But a wise person knows when not to press his luck.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    "groups that have contributed enormously to Jewish success — namely, Germans and Americans"

    I think you're on stronger ground concerning us Americans than concerning the Germans, unless you believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real.
    , @iffen
    But a wise person knows when not to press his luck.

    A wise person would know not to bad-mouth Spencer then turn around and push a favored Fuhrer candidate twice within the space of 15 comments.

  22. White identity politics, similar to the identity politics of any other group are being conflated with extreme white supremacy groups. What about Jewish supremacy as seen in donors of this past election, at Goldman Sachs, in the 3 writers of this article and many other similar pieces, and the usual NYT pro Judaic bias. Do we judge all Jews from this and the extremist Jews, Hasidic, and Zionist movements?

    Do we judge the video of Richard Spencer and the infamous Nazi salutes as a propaganda product of the producer of the video for The Atlantic magazine with Jeffrey Goldberg as editor, a former member of the Israeli Defense forces and rabid Zionist? Isn’t there quite a bit of Jewish supremacy in that country?Isn’t it convenient that this happened during a filming of a documentary for said magazine? I think the salutes were plants in the Rita Katz propaganda tradition.

    Jews are very frightened at the moment. Lots of their apparent support for minorities is simply a proxy for their own fears. First they think Trump and the deplorables will go after Mexicans, Muslims, and then them! Some xenophobic paranoia to be sure. In the words of Norman Finkelstein “Jews never had it so good” as in the USA today. Not the same can be said for the majority population whites!

    They’ve seen all the other minority identity groups get benefits and now this sleeping giant in the US and EU has awakened. Don’t forget, throughout history the present is a reaction to the past. What goes around comes around. If large swaths of a country’s population have no voice only conflict will occur in the future.

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    • Replies: @Jason Liu
    There isn't really anything wrong with Zionism, it's just that other peoples of the planet are not as devoted to their homeland as Zionists. Ironically if Jews hadn't spent the last hundred years making up far left ideologies, they would have nothing to fear as they'd pass for just another white ethnic group.
  23. Sulzberger at the NYT may have written his “letter to the readers” immediately after the election vowing to do a better job journalistically, but they are still running articles as straight “news” that read like Op-Ed page punditry.

    The whole MSM is like that, and has been for decades if not longer.

    …the headline atrocious, implying that the entire alt-right is basically Nazi, just undergoing a makeover designed to deceive.

    The “Nazi” smear is used, because it works. Except for, say, the presidential election last month, but they’re trying to pin that one on the Russkies now. What ever will they do if that doesn’t work??

    Meanwhile, sorry, but Richard Spencer, who was never brilliant, has become a serious liability. I used to wonder if he had a future in the movement since he was handsome and stupid, which is often a successful combination. Now he’s just stupid.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Re Spencer, I agree. He is a serious liability and getting worse. See this recent interview:

    https://gma.yahoo.com/asian-american-journalist-interview-white-nationalist-200511032--abc-news-topstories.html#comments
    , @White Guy In Japan
    "Meanwhile, sorry, but Richard Spencer, who was never brilliant, has become a serious liability. I used to wonder if he had a future in the movement since he was handsome and stupid, which is often a successful combination. Now he’s just stupid."

    Must disagree here. On one hand, we have Jared Taylor, The Derb and Brimelow, who come from a certain generation and display a calmer, refined temperament. On the other hand, we have the Millenial Alt-Right, who are Straight Outta 4Chan.

    Spencer is somewhere in the middle. He is a rope stretched between AmRen and the Daily Shoah--a meme over an abyss.
  24. @Anon
    When it's not the Nazis!!!!!... it's the Russkies!!!!

    Anti-Slavicism is the new 'antisemitism'. Paranoid GLOB blames Russia for EVERYTHING. Maybe Russians use baby blood to make Blini.

    Sounds a bit like projection.

    http://cookingtheglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/russian-pancakes-blini-3.jpg

    It is an interesting gedankenexperiment to insert jews (no disrespect meant) as the victim of Kiev and it’s neonazis, for example about the massacre in Odessa. Think about it: 100 jews massacred in Odessa, torch marches of neonazis singing song to burning of the jews (instead of Moskals/Colorado bugs ). Unbelievable right?
    Not all victims are equal.

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  25. @JohnDough
    White identity politics, similar to the identity politics of any other group are being conflated with extreme white supremacy groups. What about Jewish supremacy as seen in donors of this past election, at Goldman Sachs, in the 3 writers of this article and many other similar pieces, and the usual NYT pro Judaic bias. Do we judge all Jews from this and the extremist Jews, Hasidic, and Zionist movements?

    Do we judge the video of Richard Spencer and the infamous Nazi salutes as a propaganda product of the producer of the video for The Atlantic magazine with Jeffrey Goldberg as editor, a former member of the Israeli Defense forces and rabid Zionist? Isn't there quite a bit of Jewish supremacy in that country?Isn't it convenient that this happened during a filming of a documentary for said magazine? I think the salutes were plants in the Rita Katz propaganda tradition.

    Jews are very frightened at the moment. Lots of their apparent support for minorities is simply a proxy for their own fears. First they think Trump and the deplorables will go after Mexicans, Muslims, and then them! Some xenophobic paranoia to be sure. In the words of Norman Finkelstein "Jews never had it so good" as in the USA today. Not the same can be said for the majority population whites!

    They've seen all the other minority identity groups get benefits and now this sleeping giant in the US and EU has awakened. Don't forget, throughout history the present is a reaction to the past. What goes around comes around. If large swaths of a country's population have no voice only conflict will occur in the future.

    There isn’t really anything wrong with Zionism, it’s just that other peoples of the planet are not as devoted to their homeland as Zionists. Ironically if Jews hadn’t spent the last hundred years making up far left ideologies, they would have nothing to fear as they’d pass for just another white ethnic group.

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    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
    Very droll. You realize that as late as 1903 the World Zionist Organization's Zionist Congress was still considering a "homeland" in Uganda?

    At any rate, modern day "Israel" is clearly a Neo-Hegelian heresy with little or no support in the supposed "religion" and it has about as much historical persuasiveness as Mussolini's claim to territories of the Roman Empire, like Libya.

    This is perhaps one of the reasons many Iranian Jews, who are clearly direct descendents of the exile in Persia and thus the oldest continuous community in the world, look down on "Israelis" as heterodox European upstarts.

    , @Jefferson
    "Ironically if Jews hadn’t spent the last hundred years making up far left ideologies, they would have nothing to fear as they’d pass for just another white ethnic group."

    Jews already pass for White. For example the Jew Howard Stern said he was called a Cracka several times when he attended a predominantly Black school as a kid. The Jew Tim Wise was a victim of polar bear hunting in Washington DC.
  26. @Jason Liu
    There isn't really anything wrong with Zionism, it's just that other peoples of the planet are not as devoted to their homeland as Zionists. Ironically if Jews hadn't spent the last hundred years making up far left ideologies, they would have nothing to fear as they'd pass for just another white ethnic group.

    Very droll. You realize that as late as 1903 the World Zionist Organization’s Zionist Congress was still considering a “homeland” in Uganda?

    At any rate, modern day “Israel” is clearly a Neo-Hegelian heresy with little or no support in the supposed “religion” and it has about as much historical persuasiveness as Mussolini’s claim to territories of the Roman Empire, like Libya.

    This is perhaps one of the reasons many Iranian Jews, who are clearly direct descendents of the exile in Persia and thus the oldest continuous community in the world, look down on “Israelis” as heterodox European upstarts.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    This is perhaps one of the reasons many Iranian Jews, who are clearly direct descendents of the exile in Persia

    Are they really?
  27. Then, of course, there are the intensely anti-Zionist Haredi Jews, who despise the “state of Israel” as a completely sacrilegious miscarriage of true Judaism:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2016/may/12/for-haredi-jews-secular-zionism-remains-a-religious-heresy

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  28. Nathan Damigo ( see video above ) seems to top Mr. Spencer in both the good looks and the smarts dept. And Damigo’s hairdo is even higher and tighter.

    Here’s Spencer speaking at Texas A & M U. on Dec. 7:

    http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2016/12/7/richard-spencer-at-texas-am

    In my opinion, Spencer’s oration is too long and lacks focus on essential, main points. Did someone else herein describe his style as “inchoate”? I suppose that’s an appropriate adjective.

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  29. @Kyle McKenna

    Sulzberger at the NYT may have written his “letter to the readers” immediately after the election vowing to do a better job journalistically, but they are still running articles as straight “news” that read like Op-Ed page punditry.
     
    The whole MSM is like that, and has been for decades if not longer.

    ...the headline atrocious, implying that the entire alt-right is basically Nazi, just undergoing a makeover designed to deceive.
     
    The "Nazi" smear is used, because it works. Except for, say, the presidential election last month, but they're trying to pin that one on the Russkies now. What ever will they do if that doesn't work??

    Meanwhile, sorry, but Richard Spencer, who was never brilliant, has become a serious liability. I used to wonder if he had a future in the movement since he was handsome and stupid, which is often a successful combination. Now he's just stupid.

    Re Spencer, I agree. He is a serious liability and getting worse. See this recent interview:

    https://gma.yahoo.com/asian-american-journalist-interview-white-nationalist-200511032–abc-news-topstories.html#comments

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  30. @E. A. Costa
    Very droll. You realize that as late as 1903 the World Zionist Organization's Zionist Congress was still considering a "homeland" in Uganda?

    At any rate, modern day "Israel" is clearly a Neo-Hegelian heresy with little or no support in the supposed "religion" and it has about as much historical persuasiveness as Mussolini's claim to territories of the Roman Empire, like Libya.

    This is perhaps one of the reasons many Iranian Jews, who are clearly direct descendents of the exile in Persia and thus the oldest continuous community in the world, look down on "Israelis" as heterodox European upstarts.

    This is perhaps one of the reasons many Iranian Jews, who are clearly direct descendents of the exile in Persia

    Are they really?

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  31. Re Spencer, I agree. He is a serious liability and getting worse.

    So, you agree that Nathan Damigo is a better front man for the Movement?

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  32. @Kyle McKenna

    Sulzberger at the NYT may have written his “letter to the readers” immediately after the election vowing to do a better job journalistically, but they are still running articles as straight “news” that read like Op-Ed page punditry.
     
    The whole MSM is like that, and has been for decades if not longer.

    ...the headline atrocious, implying that the entire alt-right is basically Nazi, just undergoing a makeover designed to deceive.
     
    The "Nazi" smear is used, because it works. Except for, say, the presidential election last month, but they're trying to pin that one on the Russkies now. What ever will they do if that doesn't work??

    Meanwhile, sorry, but Richard Spencer, who was never brilliant, has become a serious liability. I used to wonder if he had a future in the movement since he was handsome and stupid, which is often a successful combination. Now he's just stupid.

    “Meanwhile, sorry, but Richard Spencer, who was never brilliant, has become a serious liability. I used to wonder if he had a future in the movement since he was handsome and stupid, which is often a successful combination. Now he’s just stupid.”

    Must disagree here. On one hand, we have Jared Taylor, The Derb and Brimelow, who come from a certain generation and display a calmer, refined temperament. On the other hand, we have the Millenial Alt-Right, who are Straight Outta 4Chan.

    Spencer is somewhere in the middle. He is a rope stretched between AmRen and the Daily Shoah–a meme over an abyss.

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  33. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The ceaseless hysteria of the NYT is pretty amusing to watch. To me, the alt-right is just a fad. What’s important to understand here is the secular rise of white nationalism. Like all movements, it will have people of a wide variety of political opinions. Some very extreme, some very moderate and lots of people in-between.

    The question is if this white nationalism actually does anything except complain about its decline but do nothing about it. There, I wouldn’t worry so much if I was the NYT.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    'White Nationalism' needs a name like 'Zionism'.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    I don't think the alt-right is just a fad in that it has engendered a number of other movements and structures. For example, I've joined an online männerbund based on my involvement with the alt-right which has helped my sense of belonging greatly.

    I can't be alone in this.
  34. @LiveFreeOrDie
    >>>khaki pants
    I didn't realize how long I have been a trendsetter for the Alt-Right!

    “NOBODY expects the Fash Police Raiders! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise….”:

    http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/3907_press01-001.jpg

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  35. NSM and other clowns are all FBI assets (in addition to being irrelevant to what might actually be described as “alt-right”).

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  36. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anon
    The ceaseless hysteria of the NYT is pretty amusing to watch. To me, the alt-right is just a fad. What's important to understand here is the secular rise of white nationalism. Like all movements, it will have people of a wide variety of political opinions. Some very extreme, some very moderate and lots of people in-between.

    The question is if this white nationalism actually does anything except complain about its decline but do nothing about it. There, I wouldn't worry so much if I was the NYT.

    ‘White Nationalism’ needs a name like ‘Zionism’.

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  37. @Verymuchalive
    How many Jews does it take to write a short piece about the Alt-Right in The NYT. The answer is three ( plus an Irish-American ).
    You couldn't make it up.

    (((They))) did make it up…But glad to see an Irish-American token on the byline. Affirmative Action at the Carlos Slim blog!

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  38. @Anon
    The ceaseless hysteria of the NYT is pretty amusing to watch. To me, the alt-right is just a fad. What's important to understand here is the secular rise of white nationalism. Like all movements, it will have people of a wide variety of political opinions. Some very extreme, some very moderate and lots of people in-between.

    The question is if this white nationalism actually does anything except complain about its decline but do nothing about it. There, I wouldn't worry so much if I was the NYT.

    I don’t think the alt-right is just a fad in that it has engendered a number of other movements and structures. For example, I’ve joined an online männerbund based on my involvement with the alt-right which has helped my sense of belonging greatly.

    I can’t be alone in this.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Alt Right has three things going for it:

    1. Youth
    2. Talent(compared to moronic KKK and skinheads of the past)
    3. Identity.

    Its grounding in identity and ethnos makes for firmer & sounder foundation than movements fixed on policy goals, abstract principles, sub-cultures, deviancy, and etc.

    While Alt Right is currently a sub-culture, its themes are broad and deep: ethnic unity and history.

    Alt Right can play its themes stupidly and fail, but it has the right themes.
    It's like the one Jewish theme that succeed and has genuine lifespan is Zionism rooted in identity and history.

    Alt Right should create a white identity that respects the identities and interests of others. The problem shouldn't be whites for whites, Jews for Jews, blacks for blacks, and etc. Also, it's reaching a point where whites can no longer afford to be magnanimous and generous as in the past as their numbers are doing down and PC reviles them all the time.

    Alt Right doesn't oppose blacks for blacks, browns for browns, Jews for Jews, yellows for yellows, and Muslims for Muslims. It challenges the BS that while other groups can be for their own interests, whites are pressured to go against their own kind and seek meaning only by serving others, esp Jews.

    The only whites who are allowed pride of identity are homos and trannies, but that is so ridiculous.
  39. @Verymuchalive
    How many Jews does it take to write a short piece about the Alt-Right in The NYT. The answer is three ( plus an Irish-American ).
    You couldn't make it up.

    Come now.

    “Kovaleski, Turkewitz, Goldstein, and Barry” sounds like a perfectly good name for a Sicilian mafia business partnership!

    FWIW, in NYTlandia, the surname Barry is often an Anglicized version of “Baruch.”

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    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    You mean like Barry Obama ! I always thought it odd that they never produced the full birth certificate ( Please rectify, Mr Trump). I was always dubious about the official story of the father being a passing Kenyan.
    LET THE TRUE STORY OF BARUCH OBAMA BE TOLD!
    , @PiltdownMan

    FWIW, in NYTlandia, the surname Barry is often an Anglicized version of “Baruch.”
     
    I'm quite certain that many a Dan Barry in New York City is a Daniel Baruch.

    Not this one, as it happens. From the Amazon review of his memoir

    " More like Pete Hamill or Frank McCourt, Barry wants to recount growing up Irish and Catholic on Long Island in the late 1950s and '60s."

    He used to be their city and police beat reporter in the past. Maybe they needed an old-time Irish reporter on the story for diversity cover. So we don't think it's just (((young reporters))) banging on the same old drum yet again.

  40. @Olorin
    Come now.

    "Kovaleski, Turkewitz, Goldstein, and Barry" sounds like a perfectly good name for a Sicilian mafia business partnership!

    FWIW, in NYTlandia, the surname Barry is often an Anglicized version of "Baruch."

    You mean like Barry Obama ! I always thought it odd that they never produced the full birth certificate ( Please rectify, Mr Trump). I was always dubious about the official story of the father being a passing Kenyan.
    LET THE TRUE STORY OF BARUCH OBAMA BE TOLD!

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  41. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Daniel Chieh
    I don't think the alt-right is just a fad in that it has engendered a number of other movements and structures. For example, I've joined an online männerbund based on my involvement with the alt-right which has helped my sense of belonging greatly.

    I can't be alone in this.

    Alt Right has three things going for it:

    1. Youth
    2. Talent(compared to moronic KKK and skinheads of the past)
    3. Identity.

    Its grounding in identity and ethnos makes for firmer & sounder foundation than movements fixed on policy goals, abstract principles, sub-cultures, deviancy, and etc.

    While Alt Right is currently a sub-culture, its themes are broad and deep: ethnic unity and history.

    Alt Right can play its themes stupidly and fail, but it has the right themes.
    It’s like the one Jewish theme that succeed and has genuine lifespan is Zionism rooted in identity and history.

    Alt Right should create a white identity that respects the identities and interests of others. The problem shouldn’t be whites for whites, Jews for Jews, blacks for blacks, and etc. Also, it’s reaching a point where whites can no longer afford to be magnanimous and generous as in the past as their numbers are doing down and PC reviles them all the time.

    Alt Right doesn’t oppose blacks for blacks, browns for browns, Jews for Jews, yellows for yellows, and Muslims for Muslims. It challenges the BS that while other groups can be for their own interests, whites are pressured to go against their own kind and seek meaning only by serving others, esp Jews.

    The only whites who are allowed pride of identity are homos and trannies, but that is so ridiculous.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "white" is not an ethnicity or an identity. it's a color.

    nor is "European" adequate to define ethnicity or identity.

    "German" is an ethnic identity.
    "French" is an ethnic identity.
    "Italian" is an ethnic identity.
    "Polish" is an ethnic identity.
    So are Greek, Arab, Persian, Russian, Chinese -- all are separate ethnic identities that ought to be defined, preserved, celebrated, lived on a daily basis.

    When the USA had ethnic enclaves and ethnic neighborhoods, churches, schools, people got along pretty well: ethnics interrelated in some spheres but had a comfort zone they could return to.

    What the "white nationalist" movement signifies, most of all, is that there is no such thing as American ethnicity or identity.

    American culture is defined by Hollywood, and Hollywood is defined by Eastern European Jews.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75UGpAOcQ1E

    Eastern European Jews were pig ignorant of the culture of the ethnicities named above; they'd lived their whole lives in closed-in, separatist, "querulous, freakish sects." Breaking out of those sects they set out to destroy European culture as they left -- and did a pretty good job of it. The worst thing that ever happened in the history of world culture is that some of these Eastern European Jewish cultists got hold of cameras and microphones. The Hollywood culture they created has come to define "Americanism," and has overwhelmed the remnants of German, French, Italian, Russian etc. that had not previously been physically & psychologically destroyed.

    The myth systems of the diverse ethnicities have been deliberately broken down; Jews have demanded that their cultic myths become the dominant and universal myth.

    Hitler knew what he was talking about.

    , @Anonymous
    talent?

    haven't seen it so far.

    It's not clear that the culture-destroyers have been more successful than can be recovered from.
  42. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anon
    Alt Right has three things going for it:

    1. Youth
    2. Talent(compared to moronic KKK and skinheads of the past)
    3. Identity.

    Its grounding in identity and ethnos makes for firmer & sounder foundation than movements fixed on policy goals, abstract principles, sub-cultures, deviancy, and etc.

    While Alt Right is currently a sub-culture, its themes are broad and deep: ethnic unity and history.

    Alt Right can play its themes stupidly and fail, but it has the right themes.
    It's like the one Jewish theme that succeed and has genuine lifespan is Zionism rooted in identity and history.

    Alt Right should create a white identity that respects the identities and interests of others. The problem shouldn't be whites for whites, Jews for Jews, blacks for blacks, and etc. Also, it's reaching a point where whites can no longer afford to be magnanimous and generous as in the past as their numbers are doing down and PC reviles them all the time.

    Alt Right doesn't oppose blacks for blacks, browns for browns, Jews for Jews, yellows for yellows, and Muslims for Muslims. It challenges the BS that while other groups can be for their own interests, whites are pressured to go against their own kind and seek meaning only by serving others, esp Jews.

    The only whites who are allowed pride of identity are homos and trannies, but that is so ridiculous.

    “white” is not an ethnicity or an identity. it’s a color.

    nor is “European” adequate to define ethnicity or identity.

    “German” is an ethnic identity.
    “French” is an ethnic identity.
    “Italian” is an ethnic identity.
    “Polish” is an ethnic identity.
    So are Greek, Arab, Persian, Russian, Chinese — all are separate ethnic identities that ought to be defined, preserved, celebrated, lived on a daily basis.

    When the USA had ethnic enclaves and ethnic neighborhoods, churches, schools, people got along pretty well: ethnics interrelated in some spheres but had a comfort zone they could return to.

    What the “white nationalist” movement signifies, most of all, is that there is no such thing as American ethnicity or identity.

    American culture is defined by Hollywood, and Hollywood is defined by Eastern European Jews.

    Eastern European Jews were pig ignorant of the culture of the ethnicities named above; they’d lived their whole lives in closed-in, separatist, “querulous, freakish sects.” Breaking out of those sects they set out to destroy European culture as they left — and did a pretty good job of it. The worst thing that ever happened in the history of world culture is that some of these Eastern European Jewish cultists got hold of cameras and microphones. The Hollywood culture they created has come to define “Americanism,” and has overwhelmed the remnants of German, French, Italian, Russian etc. that had not previously been physically & psychologically destroyed.

    The myth systems of the diverse ethnicities have been deliberately broken down; Jews have demanded that their cultic myths become the dominant and universal myth.

    Hitler knew what he was talking about.

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    • Replies: @joe webb
    this is so weird it can only be refuted by calling you crazy.

    Whites are Whites, black...ok you want the word Race? You got it. Common usage in English is inclusive of both color and race, ethnic and race, etc.

    Or you are just a wrecker/troll, etc.
    Joe Webb
    , @utu
    Lots of European ethnic groups did not have the concept of being white. They identified by religion as Protestants or Catholic and ethnicity as Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak. They had their ethnic enclaves in the cities but also there were ethnic villages mostly in the Midwest.

    The concept of being white and white nationalism was forced on them in the process that destroyed American cities.

    The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal As Ethnic Cleansing Hardcover – 2004
    by E. Michael Jones
    https://www.amazon.com/Slaughter-Cities-Renewal-Ethnic-Cleansing/dp/1587317753

    Blacks were used to accelerate the bone crushing and grinding process that was prerequisite for the creation of the goo called also Homo Americanus that is extruded from the melting pot. Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak lost their ethnic identities and became merely Whites. It was not a happy exchange.

  43. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anon
    Alt Right has three things going for it:

    1. Youth
    2. Talent(compared to moronic KKK and skinheads of the past)
    3. Identity.

    Its grounding in identity and ethnos makes for firmer & sounder foundation than movements fixed on policy goals, abstract principles, sub-cultures, deviancy, and etc.

    While Alt Right is currently a sub-culture, its themes are broad and deep: ethnic unity and history.

    Alt Right can play its themes stupidly and fail, but it has the right themes.
    It's like the one Jewish theme that succeed and has genuine lifespan is Zionism rooted in identity and history.

    Alt Right should create a white identity that respects the identities and interests of others. The problem shouldn't be whites for whites, Jews for Jews, blacks for blacks, and etc. Also, it's reaching a point where whites can no longer afford to be magnanimous and generous as in the past as their numbers are doing down and PC reviles them all the time.

    Alt Right doesn't oppose blacks for blacks, browns for browns, Jews for Jews, yellows for yellows, and Muslims for Muslims. It challenges the BS that while other groups can be for their own interests, whites are pressured to go against their own kind and seek meaning only by serving others, esp Jews.

    The only whites who are allowed pride of identity are homos and trannies, but that is so ridiculous.

    talent?

    haven’t seen it so far.

    It’s not clear that the culture-destroyers have been more successful than can be recovered from.

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  44. @woodNfish

    ...the National Socialist Movement, a leading neo-Nazi group, did away with its swastika.
     
    The lying LSM presstitutes just can't make up their mind if the right is socialist or conservative.

    The truth is that socialists and their offshoots, such as fascists, are all leftwing democrat party institutions. This includes the amerikan communist party which has been co-opted by the DNC, and the KKK which was created by the democratic party.

    The men who founded the KKK were Southern and most likely Democrats, certainly not Republicans. Please cite any evidence that the KKK was founded by the Democratic Party.

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    The KKK ? are you serious? read Unz's piece on same. KKK is only a jewish snare, a red-herring, etc. Grow up.

    Joe Webb
  45. @SolontoCroesus
    Nazophobia??

    Swastikaphobia??

    This being the Thanksgiving season, I keep thinking of a brother-in-law: At Thanksgiving at a cousin's ranch-house (i.e. low ceilings) that nevertheless had an iron chandelier with real, burning candles in it, someone made a remark about opening an umbrella indoors being bad luck.

    Brother-in-law had certain hot buttons; such old wive's tales/ taboos was one of them. He grabbed an umbrella, opened it wide, and raised it over the dining room table, just to demonstrate to the children in the room that such superstitions were nonsense.

    Well sir, the umbrella tipped one of the candles in the chandelier, it fell on the table and set a napkin alight.

    Someone doused it with water from a water glass as nervous laughter died away.

    Lessons learned?

    Someone needs to fling open the "Nazi salute" and "swastika" umbrella; raise 'em high, then burn the taboo as meaningless, take a dose of cold water, then get back to the serious business of keeping families together and passing along wisdom to our children.

    Keeping the holocaust, swastika, and Nazi salute bull&%$t alive all these years is narcissistic and infantile. The practice does not speak well for the maturity of Jewish young people, nor for the wisdom of their parents and leaders.

    The practices reflect a downright black heart when groups that have contributed enormously to Jewish success -- namely, Germans and Americans -- are doggedly, perniciously demonized, their culture and values undermined. That was among the important messages Germar Rudolf communicated in an (otherwise lengthy) video -- as a young German, Rudolf recalls the pain of having his and his family's, and friends, and his whole culture's noses rubbed in holocaustism. Jews just don't let up with the vindictiveness; it does not seem to be enough to have destroyed an entire generation of Germans, destroyed many of the monuments to German history, they just keep at it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xtdfU6PSBY

    Rudolf -- middle-aged by now -- reflects a tempered and philosophical outlook that, I suspect, he arrived at after much struggle. Is Germar Rudolf an extraordinary human being who has been able to process the violence done to his career and his family and emerge a passionate but patient person, or does he reflect overall characteristics of the German people collectively?

    One hopes the latter.

    But a wise person knows when not to press his luck.

    “groups that have contributed enormously to Jewish success — namely, Germans and Americans”

    I think you’re on stronger ground concerning us Americans than concerning the Germans, unless you believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real.

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    I think you’re on stronger ground concerning us Americans than concerning the Germans, unless you believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real.
     
    Two issues, intertwined.
    1. Who contributed more to Jewish success, Germans or Americans?
    2. Did Germans commit atrocities against Jews, and if so, does that disqualify contributions Germans made to Jewish success?

    Starting with the most emotionally charged issue first: Do I "believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real?"

    I just finished reading What It Is Like to Go to War," by Karl Marlantes. He describes atrocities that he led or directly committed against the Viet Namese people in the course of a war.

    Best estimates I could find state that between 2- and 3.1 million Viet Namese civilians died in the Viet Nam war.

    Do you believe that none of the American atrocities against the Viet Namese people are real?

    More directly to your point; do I believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real? Of course not; none is an impossible standard. There was a war; atrocities happen in wars, all wars. (I would refute the claim that Germany started the war.)
    Moreover, as Dr. Andrew Joyce argued in a review of Daniel Cesarani's "Final Solution: The Fate of the Jews 1933-1949," wars unleash long-bottled up ethnic tensions, which ineluctably result in barbarous acts by both sides, and large numbers of deaths on both sides. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/04/review-of-david-cesaranis-final-solution-the-fate-of-the-jews-1933-49-part-three-of-five/
    Jews and millions of others were caught up in a war that Jewish leaders and others played a major role in initiating, just as Charles Lindbergh stated. A lot of Jews died in that war. It's interesting that relatively few specific acts of atrocity, comparable to those that Marlantes described in "What It Is Like . . ." were charged against the Wehrmacht.

    Did Germans deliberately and planfully set out to exterminate, by industrial means, every single Jew they could get their hands on, and use gas chambers to carry out that objective?
    Definitely and definitively no.
    The dogmatized, "6 million" and "planned -- exterminate every Jew -- industrial means" narrative is false. http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/15-loth.pdf

    To the extent that Jews did die during the war involving Germany (David Engels repeats ad nauseam the phrase, "the Jewish encounter with the Jews"), must that disqualify objective assessment of contributions made by Germans to Jewish success?

    Why would it? If you worked three jobs for 10 years to provide your daughter with a fine college education, then tens years after she graduated you kicked her out of the house because she was using your home as a house of prostitution, does that mean that you did not provide your daughter with a college education?

    The analogy is apt.

    Jews lived in and among the German people for a millennia and enjoyed security and modest prosperity in Germanic lands. Upon unification in 1871, and consequent boost in Germany's industrialized success, even more Jews flocked to Germany, from less-successful Russian and Polish places where industrialization did not and could not take hold. This was also at the time when Russian (and Polish) Jews were increasingly interested in zionism, and were also more intent on getting an education in secular subjects, something not previously available to Jews in their Jewish enclaves. Russian and Polish Jews flocked to German and Austrian universities, frequently displacing native German students.
    Jewish merchants and financiers overwhelmed German economy, introducing consumer goods previously alien to the conservative German way of life, and the credit to purchase them. Many Germans soon found themselves living beyond their means and in debt. Farmers lost their lands and middle class Germans lost their means of earning a living. Jewish financiers bought up distressed properties at pfennigs on the Deutschmark. And then came WWI, then zionist agents maneuvered events such that Germany lost a war they should have won (the stab in the back was real), then Weimar, then Versailles, then even more Russian and Polish Jews migrated to Germany, then Jews in Germany introduced elements to German economic, cultural and political life that were antithetical to German values.
    Your daughter took advantage of the education and home you provided for her and turned it into a house of prostitution. So you kicked her out.

    The first question, Who did more toward Jewish success, USA or Germany?
    One fact could answer the argument: the first major migration of Jews to USA came from Germany, in the mid-1800s, iirc. They brought with them skills and education acquired during their Germanic (and Italian) sojourn. German Germans and German Jews contributed more to building up the USA than the other way around. USA still features an extensive network of farms, villages, towns and industries planned and built by Germans. Arguably, the present USA financial system was more-or-less imported to the USA by Northern European Jews (for good or ill).
  46. Glad to see lots of folks are aware of Spencer’s deficits. However, at the most basic level, Spencer is an egotist and an adolescent. He has also announced apparently that he is bi-sexed, and that that makes him very cool. He enjoys lifting his middle finger to the squares. This is juvenile delinquency…transgressive behavior. I know I have so remarked before…and don’t forget his equivalency to pussy riot on the left.

    Unfortunately, what seems left out here in these comments is that Spencer and the WN websites are almost all nazi, or neo. I liked Ernst Zundel’s ” I am not a neo-nazi, I am a nazi! ” Now there is a guy I can respect, while criticizing .

    The tyranny of single-factor logic which drives a certain position to the extreme, is very common in human affairs. All or Nothing is the psychological dynamic in this regard. This too is somewhat associated with youth.

    The only White leader that I can whole heartedly support is Jared Taylor, who, before some of you jump on him for not being sufficiently correct on Jews, sober up with Reality. I no longer call myself a WNist. Race realism seems adequate to the task of tagging a White resistance to our dispossession, and concomitant solutions to our problems of the rising tide of color and the lunacy of liberals/really communists.

    Political Reality is such that any association with Hitler or NS, etc. is instant death. Whites, despite our racial deficit of surplus Altruism, were race realists before 1960. We can get back there with the right combination of practical experience for our people, and our own Thought/Facts/actions.

    Emotional appeals have a small role to play, but mostly it is just facts, facts, facts. The only way to deal with the crazy liberals is constant refusal to go along with their nonsense. Make them look bad thru ridicule…like Trump’s “you would be in jail” to Billary. etc. (Trump is a wild card right now and may fail us, but…) he is a start.

    All you younger folks have a great opportunity…a whole lifetime ahead of you, while we older folks just have little time left. Don’t screw it up. Right now WN is a losing proposition. It must be rationalized and denazified and purged of childishness.

    Joe Webb

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    A commenter was worried about you not showing up lately.

    I told him you were likely off eyeballing coeds.

    Seriously, how many isms have you gone through?
  47. @Hibernian
    The men who founded the KKK were Southern and most likely Democrats, certainly not Republicans. Please cite any evidence that the KKK was founded by the Democratic Party.

    The KKK ? are you serious? read Unz’s piece on same. KKK is only a jewish snare, a red-herring, etc. Grow up.

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    Now, yes. It wasn't a red herring during Reconstruction or during its Northern more Jewish and Catholic oriented (as enemies) revival in the 1920s. We're talking history here, and I'm just seeking backup for the claim that it was started by the Democratic Party.
  48. @Anonymous
    "white" is not an ethnicity or an identity. it's a color.

    nor is "European" adequate to define ethnicity or identity.

    "German" is an ethnic identity.
    "French" is an ethnic identity.
    "Italian" is an ethnic identity.
    "Polish" is an ethnic identity.
    So are Greek, Arab, Persian, Russian, Chinese -- all are separate ethnic identities that ought to be defined, preserved, celebrated, lived on a daily basis.

    When the USA had ethnic enclaves and ethnic neighborhoods, churches, schools, people got along pretty well: ethnics interrelated in some spheres but had a comfort zone they could return to.

    What the "white nationalist" movement signifies, most of all, is that there is no such thing as American ethnicity or identity.

    American culture is defined by Hollywood, and Hollywood is defined by Eastern European Jews.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75UGpAOcQ1E

    Eastern European Jews were pig ignorant of the culture of the ethnicities named above; they'd lived their whole lives in closed-in, separatist, "querulous, freakish sects." Breaking out of those sects they set out to destroy European culture as they left -- and did a pretty good job of it. The worst thing that ever happened in the history of world culture is that some of these Eastern European Jewish cultists got hold of cameras and microphones. The Hollywood culture they created has come to define "Americanism," and has overwhelmed the remnants of German, French, Italian, Russian etc. that had not previously been physically & psychologically destroyed.

    The myth systems of the diverse ethnicities have been deliberately broken down; Jews have demanded that their cultic myths become the dominant and universal myth.

    Hitler knew what he was talking about.

    this is so weird it can only be refuted by calling you crazy.

    Whites are Whites, black…ok you want the word Race? You got it. Common usage in English is inclusive of both color and race, ethnic and race, etc.

    Or you are just a wrecker/troll, etc.
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    this is so weird it can only be refuted by calling you crazy.
     
    Joe Webb, lunatic protester, calls something "weird, . . .crazy."
    iow, just like Joe Webb.
    the ultimate insult.

    Whites are Whites, black…ok you want the word Race? You got it. Common usage in English is inclusive of both color and race, ethnic and race, etc.
     
    Sicily was settled by Greeks, then by Arabs; there are significant populations of Jews in Southern Italy from the first Roman conquest of Jews: many southern Italians have dark skin. Are they white or black? In the USA, Neopolitans were considered equal to Blacks and lynched as Blacks. "Weird?" "Crazy?"

    Dogs are dogs and cats are cats. But Greyhounds are not French poodles and American short-hairs http://cattime.com/cat-breeds/american-shorthair#/slide/1 are distinctly different from Himalayans http://cattime.com/cat-breeds/himalayan-cats#/slide/1 or Manx http://cattime.com/cat-breeds/manx-cat#/slide/1 If you cut the tail off an American shorthair you don't get a Manx, you get a disfigured and tortured American shorthair. Nor do you produce a French poodle by creatively clipping a Himalayan cat.

    "White" is way too broad a descriptive for Americans of European ethnic origin.

    Or you are just a wrecker/troll, etc.
     
    Nah. Just a cat lover.
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    @joe webb
    this is so weird it can only be refuted by calling you crazy.

    Whites are Whites, black...ok you want the word Race? You got it. Common usage in English is inclusive of both color and race, ethnic and race, etc.

    Or you are just a wrecker/troll, etc.
    Joe Webb

    this is so weird it can only be refuted by calling you crazy.

    Joe Webb, lunatic protester, calls something “weird, . . .crazy.”
    iow, just like Joe Webb.
    the ultimate insult.

    Whites are Whites, black…ok you want the word Race? You got it. Common usage in English is inclusive of both color and race, ethnic and race, etc.

    Sicily was settled by Greeks, then by Arabs; there are significant populations of Jews in Southern Italy from the first Roman conquest of Jews: many southern Italians have dark skin. Are they white or black? In the USA, Neopolitans were considered equal to Blacks and lynched as Blacks. “Weird?” “Crazy?”

    Dogs are dogs and cats are cats. But Greyhounds are not French poodles and American short-hairs http://cattime.com/cat-breeds/american-shorthair#/slide/1 are distinctly different from Himalayans http://cattime.com/cat-breeds/himalayan-cats#/slide/1 or Manx http://cattime.com/cat-breeds/manx-cat#/slide/1 If you cut the tail off an American shorthair you don’t get a Manx, you get a disfigured and tortured American shorthair. Nor do you produce a French poodle by creatively clipping a Himalayan cat.

    “White” is way too broad a descriptive for Americans of European ethnic origin.

    Or you are just a wrecker/troll, etc.

    Nah. Just a cat lover.

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  50. @joe webb
    Glad to see lots of folks are aware of Spencer's deficits. However, at the most basic level, Spencer is an egotist and an adolescent. He has also announced apparently that he is bi-sexed, and that that makes him very cool. He enjoys lifting his middle finger to the squares. This is juvenile delinquency...transgressive behavior. I know I have so remarked before...and don't forget his equivalency to pussy riot on the left.

    Unfortunately, what seems left out here in these comments is that Spencer and the WN websites are almost all nazi, or neo. I liked Ernst Zundel's " I am not a neo-nazi, I am a nazi! " Now there is a guy I can respect, while criticizing .

    The tyranny of single-factor logic which drives a certain position to the extreme, is very common in human affairs. All or Nothing is the psychological dynamic in this regard. This too is somewhat associated with youth.

    The only White leader that I can whole heartedly support is Jared Taylor, who, before some of you jump on him for not being sufficiently correct on Jews, sober up with Reality. I no longer call myself a WNist. Race realism seems adequate to the task of tagging a White resistance to our dispossession, and concomitant solutions to our problems of the rising tide of color and the lunacy of liberals/really communists.

    Political Reality is such that any association with Hitler or NS, etc. is instant death. Whites, despite our racial deficit of surplus Altruism, were race realists before 1960. We can get back there with the right combination of practical experience for our people, and our own Thought/Facts/actions.

    Emotional appeals have a small role to play, but mostly it is just facts, facts, facts. The only way to deal with the crazy liberals is constant refusal to go along with their nonsense. Make them look bad thru ridicule...like Trump's "you would be in jail" to Billary. etc. (Trump is a wild card right now and may fail us, but...) he is a start.

    All you younger folks have a great opportunity...a whole lifetime ahead of you, while we older folks just have little time left. Don't screw it up. Right now WN is a losing proposition. It must be rationalized and denazified and purged of childishness.

    Joe Webb

    A commenter was worried about you not showing up lately.

    I told him you were likely off eyeballing coeds.

    Seriously, how many isms have you gone through?

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    the ism dept. As i have oft stated, to play it straight and ernest in reply to your resentments, I was a democratic socialist for a long time, then nothing, and started reading the books on Isreal, IQ, and race realism.

    If you want to call 'realism' an ism, that is two at most. The democratic socialism that I once claimed I still have, up to a point, of course, for my people only.

    The other races are incapable of it.

    Looks like you are another nazi too.

    Joe Webb
  51. the jew lawyer flapping away, digging thru his notes to filibuster the shabbas goyim into sleep.

    IQ tests easily define the races. Never mind parsing out little bits of DNA (NEgro in the woodpile dept.) that any member of any race may carry.

    Blacks in the US average out at 85 IQ. This is consistent with the @ 25% White DNA that they carry on average. The pure Black as in Africa or Haiti today, have IQs at tested 67. Their heads are often quite small, consistent with a smaller brain, about 100 cubic centimeters on average.

    Race is real as real as phenotype displays for all to see and for jews to Deny, all the while keeping Israel lilly jewish. No goy need apply. Interesting that Lynn gives Israel significantly lower intelligence, even the non-arab jews. Now besides the Arab jews, and the arabs in Israel (in general arab IQ and iranian IQ is @ 87 average) the average phenotypically jew in Isreal is several points behind the US jew. Maybe 104.

    Jews like rust, never stop flapping their lips.

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  52. @iffen
    A commenter was worried about you not showing up lately.

    I told him you were likely off eyeballing coeds.

    Seriously, how many isms have you gone through?

    the ism dept. As i have oft stated, to play it straight and ernest in reply to your resentments, I was a democratic socialist for a long time, then nothing, and started reading the books on Isreal, IQ, and race realism.

    If you want to call ‘realism’ an ism, that is two at most. The democratic socialism that I once claimed I still have, up to a point, of course, for my people only.

    The other races are incapable of it.

    Looks like you are another nazi too.

    Joe Webb

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    Thanks for the reply JW.

    No resentments on my part and I play it straight and earnest as well.
    I thought that I remembered that you said you were a national socialist for a while, so race realism would be three by my count.

    I've been through a few isms myself and don't consider it one of my faults more than I consider it a fault in someone else. I was just asking for more perspective.

    I quoted one of your snippets on Spencer as you seem to know what you are talking about with regards to him.
  53. btw, the junk on this forum does not attract me much, and that and the coeds keep me away. The resenters are here in full display. Basically, most of the folks here are merely anti semites and nothing else except for some even softer-brained neos.

    JW

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  54. @Hibernian
    "groups that have contributed enormously to Jewish success — namely, Germans and Americans"

    I think you're on stronger ground concerning us Americans than concerning the Germans, unless you believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real.

    I think you’re on stronger ground concerning us Americans than concerning the Germans, unless you believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real.

    Two issues, intertwined.
    1. Who contributed more to Jewish success, Germans or Americans?
    2. Did Germans commit atrocities against Jews, and if so, does that disqualify contributions Germans made to Jewish success?

    Starting with the most emotionally charged issue first: Do I “believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real?”

    I just finished reading What It Is Like to Go to War,” by Karl Marlantes. He describes atrocities that he led or directly committed against the Viet Namese people in the course of a war.

    Best estimates I could find state that between 2- and 3.1 million Viet Namese civilians died in the Viet Nam war.

    Do you believe that none of the American atrocities against the Viet Namese people are real?

    More directly to your point; do I believe that none of the German atrocities against Jewish people are real? Of course not; none is an impossible standard. There was a war; atrocities happen in wars, all wars. (I would refute the claim that Germany started the war.)
    Moreover, as Dr. Andrew Joyce argued in a review of Daniel Cesarani’s “Final Solution: The Fate of the Jews 1933-1949,” wars unleash long-bottled up ethnic tensions, which ineluctably result in barbarous acts by both sides, and large numbers of deaths on both sides. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/04/review-of-david-cesaranis-final-solution-the-fate-of-the-jews-1933-49-part-three-of-five/
    Jews and millions of others were caught up in a war that Jewish leaders and others played a major role in initiating, just as Charles Lindbergh stated. A lot of Jews died in that war. It’s interesting that relatively few specific acts of atrocity, comparable to those that Marlantes described in “What It Is Like . . .” were charged against the Wehrmacht.

    Did Germans deliberately and planfully set out to exterminate, by industrial means, every single Jew they could get their hands on, and use gas chambers to carry out that objective?
    Definitely and definitively no.
    The dogmatized, “6 million” and “planned — exterminate every Jew — industrial means” narrative is false. http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/15-loth.pdf

    To the extent that Jews did die during the war involving Germany (David Engels repeats ad nauseam the phrase, “the Jewish encounter with the Jews”), must that disqualify objective assessment of contributions made by Germans to Jewish success?

    Why would it? If you worked three jobs for 10 years to provide your daughter with a fine college education, then tens years after she graduated you kicked her out of the house because she was using your home as a house of prostitution, does that mean that you did not provide your daughter with a college education?

    The analogy is apt.

    Jews lived in and among the German people for a millennia and enjoyed security and modest prosperity in Germanic lands. Upon unification in 1871, and consequent boost in Germany’s industrialized success, even more Jews flocked to Germany, from less-successful Russian and Polish places where industrialization did not and could not take hold. This was also at the time when Russian (and Polish) Jews were increasingly interested in zionism, and were also more intent on getting an education in secular subjects, something not previously available to Jews in their Jewish enclaves. Russian and Polish Jews flocked to German and Austrian universities, frequently displacing native German students.
    Jewish merchants and financiers overwhelmed German economy, introducing consumer goods previously alien to the conservative German way of life, and the credit to purchase them. Many Germans soon found themselves living beyond their means and in debt. Farmers lost their lands and middle class Germans lost their means of earning a living. Jewish financiers bought up distressed properties at pfennigs on the Deutschmark. And then came WWI, then zionist agents maneuvered events such that Germany lost a war they should have won (the stab in the back was real), then Weimar, then Versailles, then even more Russian and Polish Jews migrated to Germany, then Jews in Germany introduced elements to German economic, cultural and political life that were antithetical to German values.
    Your daughter took advantage of the education and home you provided for her and turned it into a house of prostitution. So you kicked her out.

    The first question, Who did more toward Jewish success, USA or Germany?
    One fact could answer the argument: the first major migration of Jews to USA came from Germany, in the mid-1800s, iirc. They brought with them skills and education acquired during their Germanic (and Italian) sojourn. German Germans and German Jews contributed more to building up the USA than the other way around. USA still features an extensive network of farms, villages, towns and industries planned and built by Germans. Arguably, the present USA financial system was more-or-less imported to the USA by Northern European Jews (for good or ill).

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  55. @joe webb
    the ism dept. As i have oft stated, to play it straight and ernest in reply to your resentments, I was a democratic socialist for a long time, then nothing, and started reading the books on Isreal, IQ, and race realism.

    If you want to call 'realism' an ism, that is two at most. The democratic socialism that I once claimed I still have, up to a point, of course, for my people only.

    The other races are incapable of it.

    Looks like you are another nazi too.

    Joe Webb

    Thanks for the reply JW.

    No resentments on my part and I play it straight and earnest as well.
    I thought that I remembered that you said you were a national socialist for a while, so race realism would be three by my count.

    I’ve been through a few isms myself and don’t consider it one of my faults more than I consider it a fault in someone else. I was just asking for more perspective.

    I quoted one of your snippets on Spencer as you seem to know what you are talking about with regards to him.

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    OK fair enough and thanks. 'I am not now, now ever was...' etc. I never said I was a national socialist, ever. As I remarked earlier I was a democratic socialist for several years, and was a card -carrying member of Michael Harrington's Democratic Socialists of America. Notice that Harrington is not a jewish name. Then there is Norman Thomas, who I think founded the party back in the early 1900s.

    Whites tend to restraint and limits and menshevism, while Jews went berserk with bolshevism, etc. Not all jews and not all whites of course. But there is a psychological dimension which is worth considering. All or Nothing is very Jewish. It is the essence of Bolshevism, vanguard/Leninist party, and totalitarian...like Jewish life used to be under Rabbi rule, and still is in Israel. 1917 was arguably a race war and race based terror...Trotsky, etc.

    Nazis, as white guys, is a problematic, but those times were pretty bad, and Bolshevism (jewish) was at the gate of the West...with guns. Communism caused Fascism, just as it is doing now under its pimping little sister...liberalism. Being a nazi back then was more or less correct, but not now.

    The guy to read in this regard is Israel Shahak. Jewish History; Jewish Religion is his major but short work. He grew up in Israel having left Europe early as I recall, like ten years old.

    He agues with regard to psychology, that the secular jews have merely morphed their old totalitarian religion into Zionism, or communism. They are fanatic by nature, like Arabs or Semites generally. all of them ? Of course not, but it is a strong tendency.

    A desert, being more pastoral than agricultural, and a long history of shrewdness with regard to their host countries, has emphasized their cunning as well as their extreme race/ethnic chauvinism. Jews are Darwinian, just as the OT and Talmud is....

    As a Darwinian, I can praise them in some ways, but they Go Too Far, and piss off everybody around them. It was not live and let live, it was kill even their little ones. Bad PR.

    Agriculturalists are more peaceful, and used to nurturing plants. Pastoralists mate and kill animals. Is it a big difference? Maybe and maybe not. Depends on the Time spent doing these things....generations, etc. Traits are selected for over very long periods of relative stability of conditions.

    Joe Webb
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    It’s the Kahanist Alt Right, folks

    Breivik, Wilders, the Kahanist Alt Right, the Kahanist Neocons, and the Kahanist Settlers

    It’s ‘Kahanist Zionism’ and Kahanist Apartheid Israel

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    The Right in Europe was traditionally anti-semitic. Now the New Right is philo-semitic or at least very pro Zionist. Israel is considered as a shining example of how to deal with Arabs and muslims. The anti-semitism was replaced with Islamophobia. The New Right in its extreme is best exemplified by Breivik. Marine LePen changed the National Front platform to pro-Zionist. No wonder that the New Right in Europe is tolerated and sometimes even supported by Israel and Zionists.

    I think that the same forces that look with approval at the New Right in Europe are behind the alt-right and Trump presidency. It seems as if The Master Switchman of The World Order pushed the switch in other direction opening a narrow last chance window of opportunity for European nationalism and offered protection form the Liberal Left and Liberal Jews in exchange for unconditional acceptance of Israel and its leading role in forming international policy.
  57. @ThereisaGod
    Shithead white Nationalist supremacists share every political conviction with their Jewish equivalent i.e. the Jewish hive-mind banking/Talmudic collective that dominates the entire western world.
    There's Nationalism, Socialism, Supremacism, ethnic narcissism and self-preferential racism for a start ...

    ... so come on you New York Jews ... WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE about white supremacism other than it is competition?

    https://justice4poland.com/2016/10/17/jewish-civilization-feliks-koneczny/

    “Feliks Koneczny realizes that Nazism is the strongest form of anti-Semitism, yet he suggests that it is, in a sense, a copy of Jewish civilization. [The scientifically-minded reader may think of matter and antimatter. They are similar, yet opposites.] This is in the sense that Nazism copies the Chosen People and Chosen Race concept. (p. 362, 365). In addition, both systems rely on monolatry. The monolatry in Judaism has already been discussed. As for Nazism, the Germans have a revived tribal war god in Wotan, or in a form of Germanized Christianity (e. g, DEUTSCHE GOTT). (pp. 363-364).”

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  58. @iffen
    Thanks for the reply JW.

    No resentments on my part and I play it straight and earnest as well.
    I thought that I remembered that you said you were a national socialist for a while, so race realism would be three by my count.

    I've been through a few isms myself and don't consider it one of my faults more than I consider it a fault in someone else. I was just asking for more perspective.

    I quoted one of your snippets on Spencer as you seem to know what you are talking about with regards to him.

    OK fair enough and thanks. ‘I am not now, now ever was…’ etc. I never said I was a national socialist, ever. As I remarked earlier I was a democratic socialist for several years, and was a card -carrying member of Michael Harrington’s Democratic Socialists of America. Notice that Harrington is not a jewish name. Then there is Norman Thomas, who I think founded the party back in the early 1900s.

    Whites tend to restraint and limits and menshevism, while Jews went berserk with bolshevism, etc. Not all jews and not all whites of course. But there is a psychological dimension which is worth considering. All or Nothing is very Jewish. It is the essence of Bolshevism, vanguard/Leninist party, and totalitarian…like Jewish life used to be under Rabbi rule, and still is in Israel. 1917 was arguably a race war and race based terror…Trotsky, etc.

    Nazis, as white guys, is a problematic, but those times were pretty bad, and Bolshevism (jewish) was at the gate of the West…with guns. Communism caused Fascism, just as it is doing now under its pimping little sister…liberalism. Being a nazi back then was more or less correct, but not now.

    The guy to read in this regard is Israel Shahak. Jewish History; Jewish Religion is his major but short work. He grew up in Israel having left Europe early as I recall, like ten years old.

    He agues with regard to psychology, that the secular jews have merely morphed their old totalitarian religion into Zionism, or communism. They are fanatic by nature, like Arabs or Semites generally. all of them ? Of course not, but it is a strong tendency.

    A desert, being more pastoral than agricultural, and a long history of shrewdness with regard to their host countries, has emphasized their cunning as well as their extreme race/ethnic chauvinism. Jews are Darwinian, just as the OT and Talmud is….

    As a Darwinian, I can praise them in some ways, but they Go Too Far, and piss off everybody around them. It was not live and let live, it was kill even their little ones. Bad PR.

    Agriculturalists are more peaceful, and used to nurturing plants. Pastoralists mate and kill animals. Is it a big difference? Maybe and maybe not. Depends on the Time spent doing these things….generations, etc. Traits are selected for over very long periods of relative stability of conditions.

    Joe Webb

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    Statements like this one threw me off a bit.

    National socialism, without getting into the AH 88 rut, is the only solution.

    I am not trying to start an argument; I just wanted you to know that I didn't make up anything. That said, I take you at your word that you are not NS, nor have you ever been...

    Some of us are aware of the problems that the US has that derive primarily from the differing ability structures of our various racial and ethnic groups. No one seems to have any pragmatic ideas on how to move forward within our political institutions in addressing these problems.
    Work on those ideas for us, will you? But, remember the pragmatic stipulation.

  59. @Anonymous
    "white" is not an ethnicity or an identity. it's a color.

    nor is "European" adequate to define ethnicity or identity.

    "German" is an ethnic identity.
    "French" is an ethnic identity.
    "Italian" is an ethnic identity.
    "Polish" is an ethnic identity.
    So are Greek, Arab, Persian, Russian, Chinese -- all are separate ethnic identities that ought to be defined, preserved, celebrated, lived on a daily basis.

    When the USA had ethnic enclaves and ethnic neighborhoods, churches, schools, people got along pretty well: ethnics interrelated in some spheres but had a comfort zone they could return to.

    What the "white nationalist" movement signifies, most of all, is that there is no such thing as American ethnicity or identity.

    American culture is defined by Hollywood, and Hollywood is defined by Eastern European Jews.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75UGpAOcQ1E

    Eastern European Jews were pig ignorant of the culture of the ethnicities named above; they'd lived their whole lives in closed-in, separatist, "querulous, freakish sects." Breaking out of those sects they set out to destroy European culture as they left -- and did a pretty good job of it. The worst thing that ever happened in the history of world culture is that some of these Eastern European Jewish cultists got hold of cameras and microphones. The Hollywood culture they created has come to define "Americanism," and has overwhelmed the remnants of German, French, Italian, Russian etc. that had not previously been physically & psychologically destroyed.

    The myth systems of the diverse ethnicities have been deliberately broken down; Jews have demanded that their cultic myths become the dominant and universal myth.

    Hitler knew what he was talking about.

    Lots of European ethnic groups did not have the concept of being white. They identified by religion as Protestants or Catholic and ethnicity as Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak. They had their ethnic enclaves in the cities but also there were ethnic villages mostly in the Midwest.

    The concept of being white and white nationalism was forced on them in the process that destroyed American cities.

    The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal As Ethnic Cleansing Hardcover – 2004
    by E. Michael Jones

    https://www.amazon.com/Slaughter-Cities-Renewal-Ethnic-Cleansing/dp/1587317753

    Blacks were used to accelerate the bone crushing and grinding process that was prerequisite for the creation of the goo called also Homo Americanus that is extruded from the melting pot. Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak lost their ethnic identities and became merely Whites. It was not a happy exchange.

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    "Lots of European ethnic groups did not have the concept of being white. They identified by religion as Protestants or Catholic and ethnicity as Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak. They had their ethnic enclaves in the cities but also there were ethnic villages mostly in the Midwest.
    The concept of being white and white nationalism was forced on them in the process that destroyed American cities.
    The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal As Ethnic Cleansing Hardcover – 2004
    by E. Michael Jones
    https://www.amazon.com/Slaughter-Cities-Renewal-Ethnic-Cleansing/dp/1587317753

    Blacks were used to accelerate the bone crushing and grinding process that was prerequisite for the creation of the goo called also Homo Americanus that is extruded from the melting pot. Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak lost their ethnic identities and became merely Whites. It was not a happy exchange."

    I see myself as Italian first and White second if I am in some Whitebread area. When I am surrounded by vibrant diversity I notice my own Whiteness more, because now I am no longer the swarthy Guinea because there are people with much darker skin than me, people with more exotic names than me.

  60. @anon
    It's the Kahanist Alt Right, folks

    Breivik, Wilders, the Kahanist Alt Right, the Kahanist Neocons, and the Kahanist Settlers

    It's 'Kahanist Zionism' and Kahanist Apartheid Israel

    The Right in Europe was traditionally anti-semitic. Now the New Right is philo-semitic or at least very pro Zionist. Israel is considered as a shining example of how to deal with Arabs and muslims. The anti-semitism was replaced with Islamophobia. The New Right in its extreme is best exemplified by Breivik. Marine LePen changed the National Front platform to pro-Zionist. No wonder that the New Right in Europe is tolerated and sometimes even supported by Israel and Zionists.

    I think that the same forces that look with approval at the New Right in Europe are behind the alt-right and Trump presidency. It seems as if The Master Switchman of The World Order pushed the switch in other direction opening a narrow last chance window of opportunity for European nationalism and offered protection form the Liberal Left and Liberal Jews in exchange for unconditional acceptance of Israel and its leading role in forming international policy.

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  61. Nationalism symbols would have seemed more receptive to me if it was packaged more like the Orangemen of Ulster rather than Swastikas and NAZIs.

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  62. @joe webb
    The KKK ? are you serious? read Unz's piece on same. KKK is only a jewish snare, a red-herring, etc. Grow up.

    Joe Webb

    Now, yes. It wasn’t a red herring during Reconstruction or during its Northern more Jewish and Catholic oriented (as enemies) revival in the 1920s. We’re talking history here, and I’m just seeking backup for the claim that it was started by the Democratic Party.

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  63. @Olorin
    Come now.

    "Kovaleski, Turkewitz, Goldstein, and Barry" sounds like a perfectly good name for a Sicilian mafia business partnership!

    FWIW, in NYTlandia, the surname Barry is often an Anglicized version of "Baruch."

    FWIW, in NYTlandia, the surname Barry is often an Anglicized version of “Baruch.”

    I’m quite certain that many a Dan Barry in New York City is a Daniel Baruch.

    Not this one, as it happens. From the Amazon review of his memoir

    More like Pete Hamill or Frank McCourt, Barry wants to recount growing up Irish and Catholic on Long Island in the late 1950s and ’60s.

    He used to be their city and police beat reporter in the past. Maybe they needed an old-time Irish reporter on the story for diversity cover. So we don’t think it’s just (((young reporters))) banging on the same old drum yet again.

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  64. I’m sorry, but are we still paying attention to the Daily Duranty here?

    If so…… why?

    “Newspapers” that consistently lie to me, particularly when it’s in the service of a goodwhite agenda I can’t be trusted to embrace on my own, deserve neither my patronage nor my respect.

    How about you?

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  65. @joe webb
    OK fair enough and thanks. 'I am not now, now ever was...' etc. I never said I was a national socialist, ever. As I remarked earlier I was a democratic socialist for several years, and was a card -carrying member of Michael Harrington's Democratic Socialists of America. Notice that Harrington is not a jewish name. Then there is Norman Thomas, who I think founded the party back in the early 1900s.

    Whites tend to restraint and limits and menshevism, while Jews went berserk with bolshevism, etc. Not all jews and not all whites of course. But there is a psychological dimension which is worth considering. All or Nothing is very Jewish. It is the essence of Bolshevism, vanguard/Leninist party, and totalitarian...like Jewish life used to be under Rabbi rule, and still is in Israel. 1917 was arguably a race war and race based terror...Trotsky, etc.

    Nazis, as white guys, is a problematic, but those times were pretty bad, and Bolshevism (jewish) was at the gate of the West...with guns. Communism caused Fascism, just as it is doing now under its pimping little sister...liberalism. Being a nazi back then was more or less correct, but not now.

    The guy to read in this regard is Israel Shahak. Jewish History; Jewish Religion is his major but short work. He grew up in Israel having left Europe early as I recall, like ten years old.

    He agues with regard to psychology, that the secular jews have merely morphed their old totalitarian religion into Zionism, or communism. They are fanatic by nature, like Arabs or Semites generally. all of them ? Of course not, but it is a strong tendency.

    A desert, being more pastoral than agricultural, and a long history of shrewdness with regard to their host countries, has emphasized their cunning as well as their extreme race/ethnic chauvinism. Jews are Darwinian, just as the OT and Talmud is....

    As a Darwinian, I can praise them in some ways, but they Go Too Far, and piss off everybody around them. It was not live and let live, it was kill even their little ones. Bad PR.

    Agriculturalists are more peaceful, and used to nurturing plants. Pastoralists mate and kill animals. Is it a big difference? Maybe and maybe not. Depends on the Time spent doing these things....generations, etc. Traits are selected for over very long periods of relative stability of conditions.

    Joe Webb

    Statements like this one threw me off a bit.

    National socialism, without getting into the AH 88 rut, is the only solution.

    I am not trying to start an argument; I just wanted you to know that I didn’t make up anything. That said, I take you at your word that you are not NS, nor have you ever been…

    Some of us are aware of the problems that the US has that derive primarily from the differing ability structures of our various racial and ethnic groups. No one seems to have any pragmatic ideas on how to move forward within our political institutions in addressing these problems.
    Work on those ideas for us, will you? But, remember the pragmatic stipulation.

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  66. @SolontoCroesus
    Nazophobia??

    Swastikaphobia??

    This being the Thanksgiving season, I keep thinking of a brother-in-law: At Thanksgiving at a cousin's ranch-house (i.e. low ceilings) that nevertheless had an iron chandelier with real, burning candles in it, someone made a remark about opening an umbrella indoors being bad luck.

    Brother-in-law had certain hot buttons; such old wive's tales/ taboos was one of them. He grabbed an umbrella, opened it wide, and raised it over the dining room table, just to demonstrate to the children in the room that such superstitions were nonsense.

    Well sir, the umbrella tipped one of the candles in the chandelier, it fell on the table and set a napkin alight.

    Someone doused it with water from a water glass as nervous laughter died away.

    Lessons learned?

    Someone needs to fling open the "Nazi salute" and "swastika" umbrella; raise 'em high, then burn the taboo as meaningless, take a dose of cold water, then get back to the serious business of keeping families together and passing along wisdom to our children.

    Keeping the holocaust, swastika, and Nazi salute bull&%$t alive all these years is narcissistic and infantile. The practice does not speak well for the maturity of Jewish young people, nor for the wisdom of their parents and leaders.

    The practices reflect a downright black heart when groups that have contributed enormously to Jewish success -- namely, Germans and Americans -- are doggedly, perniciously demonized, their culture and values undermined. That was among the important messages Germar Rudolf communicated in an (otherwise lengthy) video -- as a young German, Rudolf recalls the pain of having his and his family's, and friends, and his whole culture's noses rubbed in holocaustism. Jews just don't let up with the vindictiveness; it does not seem to be enough to have destroyed an entire generation of Germans, destroyed many of the monuments to German history, they just keep at it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xtdfU6PSBY

    Rudolf -- middle-aged by now -- reflects a tempered and philosophical outlook that, I suspect, he arrived at after much struggle. Is Germar Rudolf an extraordinary human being who has been able to process the violence done to his career and his family and emerge a passionate but patient person, or does he reflect overall characteristics of the German people collectively?

    One hopes the latter.

    But a wise person knows when not to press his luck.

    But a wise person knows when not to press his luck.

    A wise person would know not to bad-mouth Spencer then turn around and push a favored Fuhrer candidate twice within the space of 15 comments.

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    Germar Rudolf is articulate; has a compelling history; has demonstrated genuine personal courage -- he walks the talk.
    Over a 15 year odyssey of persecution that includes deportation, exile, loss of his career, the shattering of his family, and imprisonment, Rudolf has maintained the determination not to hate or express or incite hate.

    I happened onto a few biographical essays Rudolf wrote while in prison: both his mother and his father directly experienced war horrors: his father remembered being forcibly removed from farm that had been home for his family for hundreds of years; and his mother remembered, as a little girl, running for her life as firebombs destroyed her town. Inexplicably, Steven Speilberg has not interviewed and archived and constructed movies about the hundreds of thousands of German women and children who were the victims of Allied terror bombing.

    There is no aristocracy of suffering.

  67. @iffen
    But a wise person knows when not to press his luck.

    A wise person would know not to bad-mouth Spencer then turn around and push a favored Fuhrer candidate twice within the space of 15 comments.

    Germar Rudolf is articulate; has a compelling history; has demonstrated genuine personal courage — he walks the talk.
    Over a 15 year odyssey of persecution that includes deportation, exile, loss of his career, the shattering of his family, and imprisonment, Rudolf has maintained the determination not to hate or express or incite hate.

    I happened onto a few biographical essays Rudolf wrote while in prison: both his mother and his father directly experienced war horrors: his father remembered being forcibly removed from farm that had been home for his family for hundreds of years; and his mother remembered, as a little girl, running for her life as firebombs destroyed her town. Inexplicably, Steven Speilberg has not interviewed and archived and constructed movies about the hundreds of thousands of German women and children who were the victims of Allied terror bombing.

    There is no aristocracy of suffering.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Well, as you are always quick to point out, people die during wars. It's best to have leaders that don't lead your country down that path; spares a lot of suffering that way.
  68. @SolontoCroesus
    Germar Rudolf is articulate; has a compelling history; has demonstrated genuine personal courage -- he walks the talk.
    Over a 15 year odyssey of persecution that includes deportation, exile, loss of his career, the shattering of his family, and imprisonment, Rudolf has maintained the determination not to hate or express or incite hate.

    I happened onto a few biographical essays Rudolf wrote while in prison: both his mother and his father directly experienced war horrors: his father remembered being forcibly removed from farm that had been home for his family for hundreds of years; and his mother remembered, as a little girl, running for her life as firebombs destroyed her town. Inexplicably, Steven Speilberg has not interviewed and archived and constructed movies about the hundreds of thousands of German women and children who were the victims of Allied terror bombing.

    There is no aristocracy of suffering.

    Well, as you are always quick to point out, people die during wars. It’s best to have leaders that don’t lead your country down that path; spares a lot of suffering that way.

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    Very true, iffen; it's best to have leaders who do not lead their people down a wrong path, particularly when they do so with lies and treachery, as did Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, who were so completely given over to the dark side that they partnered with a leader who had already slaughtered millions of his own people. I suppose if you're in the market for a homicidal maniac to destroy an up-and-coming competitor, Stalin had the CV that indicated he could get the job done.

    Take a look at this interesting counterfactual, and its relationship to present-day foreign policy:


    Great Britain caused WW2. But not entirely for the reason you think it did. You believe that GB caused WW2 because the International Bankers feared Hitler. I think your banker theory is one reason the USA has just destroyed Libya, Iraq and Syria , for example…along with the US desire to control all the oil in the Middle East….for these countries had their own banks. The bakers don't like that. But I think GB feared Germany as early as 1900 and caused WW1 when it had become obvious that the newly created Germany was soon to become the strongest country in Europe. England has always fought and destroyed the strongest country in Europe, be that country Portugal, France or Spain. It has done that for hundreds of years. WW2 was just another British attempt to remain the strongest country in Europe. That’s why GB bombed Germany mercilessly until the last days of the war, long after the threat of Hitler was over.


    I agree with you. The British secular "balance of power" Policy [see Vansittart, here ] also played a great role in the British will to destroy the rising Nazi Germany. And the huge Zionist influence in Britain was a major factor too (No world war, no Holohoax, no Israël.).
     

    [I disagree w/ this chronology: zionism & Jewish homeland in Palestine were done deals by 1937-1938. It's not the case that Hitler is responsible for the holocaust which produced Israel; rather, zionism and the zionist requirements for migration of "only racially pure Jews"* to Palestine and, obviously, the elimination of the non-racially pure Jews, necessitated a war and a so-called holocaust.]

    back to the counterfactual/quote:


    I would add a that "No Hitler" would mean no WW2 and the destruction of Britain's great rival, Germany; "No Hitler" also meant that the Jews of Germany would continue to assimilate into German society so much that they would be all but gone as a religion in two more generations ...and that certainly meant no Israel; no WW2 meant that Europe would not be destroyed and it would thus rival the USA a world power.`No WW2 `` meant that the Brits would be able to hold on to their Commonwealth for a few more years....and GB would remain a rival to the USA ...So there was a heck of a lot of double crossing , sneaky, hidden agendas to get WW2 going...
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8127#p61019
     
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    * "In his article Die Auslese des Menschenmaterials für Palaestina (The Selection of the Human Material) Ruppin tackled this issue bluntly:

    “Here I will touch upon a question which is also important: whether there is a possibility of effecting an influence in the direction of purifying the Jewish race. Since we want to develop in Eretz Yisrael specifically what is Jewish, it will obviously be desirable that only the racially pure come to the land” (Ruppin 1919e, 72).
    Nevertheless, since the race sciences had not yet defined who, exactly, was a pure Jewish type, Ruppin believed that the process had to be based on the “selection of the fittest” "

  69. @iffen
    Well, as you are always quick to point out, people die during wars. It's best to have leaders that don't lead your country down that path; spares a lot of suffering that way.

    Very true, iffen; it’s best to have leaders who do not lead their people down a wrong path, particularly when they do so with lies and treachery, as did Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, who were so completely given over to the dark side that they partnered with a leader who had already slaughtered millions of his own people. I suppose if you’re in the market for a homicidal maniac to destroy an up-and-coming competitor, Stalin had the CV that indicated he could get the job done.

    Take a look at this interesting counterfactual, and its relationship to present-day foreign policy:

    Great Britain caused WW2. But not entirely for the reason you think it did. You believe that GB caused WW2 because the International Bankers feared Hitler. I think your banker theory is one reason the USA has just destroyed Libya, Iraq and Syria , for example…along with the US desire to control all the oil in the Middle East….for these countries had their own banks. The bakers don’t like that. But I think GB feared Germany as early as 1900 and caused WW1 when it had become obvious that the newly created Germany was soon to become the strongest country in Europe. England has always fought and destroyed the strongest country in Europe, be that country Portugal, France or Spain. It has done that for hundreds of years. WW2 was just another British attempt to remain the strongest country in Europe. That’s why GB bombed Germany mercilessly until the last days of the war, long after the threat of Hitler was over.

    I agree with you. The British secular “balance of power” Policy [see Vansittart, here ] also played a great role in the British will to destroy the rising Nazi Germany. And the huge Zionist influence in Britain was a major factor too (No world war, no Holohoax, no Israël.).

    [I disagree w/ this chronology: zionism & Jewish homeland in Palestine were done deals by 1937-1938. It's not the case that Hitler is responsible for the holocaust which produced Israel; rather, zionism and the zionist requirements for migration of "only racially pure Jews"* to Palestine and, obviously, the elimination of the non-racially pure Jews, necessitated a war and a so-called holocaust.]

    back to the counterfactual/quote:

    I would add a that “No Hitler” would mean no WW2 and the destruction of Britain’s great rival, Germany; “No Hitler” also meant that the Jews of Germany would continue to assimilate into German society so much that they would be all but gone as a religion in two more generations …and that certainly meant no Israel; no WW2 meant that Europe would not be destroyed and it would thus rival the USA a world power.`No WW2 “ meant that the Brits would be able to hold on to their Commonwealth for a few more years….and GB would remain a rival to the USA …So there was a heck of a lot of double crossing , sneaky, hidden agendas to get WW2 going…

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8127#p61019

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    * “In his article Die Auslese des Menschenmaterials für Palaestina (The Selection of the Human Material) Ruppin tackled this issue bluntly:

    “Here I will touch upon a question which is also important: whether there is a possibility of effecting an influence in the direction of purifying the Jewish race. Since we want to develop in Eretz Yisrael specifically what is Jewish, it will obviously be desirable that only the racially pure come to the land” (Ruppin 1919e, 72).
    Nevertheless, since the race sciences had not yet defined who, exactly, was a pure Jewish type, Ruppin believed that the process had to be based on the “selection of the fittest” “

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    • Replies: @iffen
    when they do so with lies and treachery, as did Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill

    I've told you before that you need to re-read your Machiavelli and learn from it.

    A great leader will do whatever needs to be done to save his people from destruction. Evidently, your boy H. didn't understand that any more than you.
    , @Gandydancer
    You're a nut.
  70. @Jason Liu
    There isn't really anything wrong with Zionism, it's just that other peoples of the planet are not as devoted to their homeland as Zionists. Ironically if Jews hadn't spent the last hundred years making up far left ideologies, they would have nothing to fear as they'd pass for just another white ethnic group.

    “Ironically if Jews hadn’t spent the last hundred years making up far left ideologies, they would have nothing to fear as they’d pass for just another white ethnic group.”

    Jews already pass for White. For example the Jew Howard Stern said he was called a Cracka several times when he attended a predominantly Black school as a kid. The Jew Tim Wise was a victim of polar bear hunting in Washington DC.

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    The Jew Tim Wise was a victim of polar bear hunting in Washington DC.
     
    I believe it was Matthew Yglesias, not Tim Wise:

    Matthew Yglesias on His Being Randomly Beaten by Blacks

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/matthew-yglesias-on-being-assaulted-by/


    @mattyglesias writes: "in a Trump administration angry mobs will beat and murder Jews" Yet Matt was victim of anti-white black violence.
     
    - https://twitter.com/steve_sailer/status/786024841270865920

    Apparently, Tim Wise wisely lives in a 97% White neighborhood:


    Kudos to loyal reader Harold who caught the following comment on a leftist web site I linked to recently. It has some interesting information about Tim Wise, the trigger-happy, endlessly bloviating windbag:

    According to the Assessor of Property for Davidson County TN, the anti-white propagandist agitator Tim Wise lives in a house worth $639,300. The neighborhood he lives in, in Census Tract 134, is 97% white and ZERO PERCENT BLACK.

    Tim Wise is a hypocrite.
     

    - http://albionmyway.blogspot.com/2013/02/hypocrite-scum-tim-wise-and-michael.html
  71. @utu
    Lots of European ethnic groups did not have the concept of being white. They identified by religion as Protestants or Catholic and ethnicity as Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak. They had their ethnic enclaves in the cities but also there were ethnic villages mostly in the Midwest.

    The concept of being white and white nationalism was forced on them in the process that destroyed American cities.

    The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal As Ethnic Cleansing Hardcover – 2004
    by E. Michael Jones
    https://www.amazon.com/Slaughter-Cities-Renewal-Ethnic-Cleansing/dp/1587317753

    Blacks were used to accelerate the bone crushing and grinding process that was prerequisite for the creation of the goo called also Homo Americanus that is extruded from the melting pot. Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak lost their ethnic identities and became merely Whites. It was not a happy exchange.

    “Lots of European ethnic groups did not have the concept of being white. They identified by religion as Protestants or Catholic and ethnicity as Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak. They had their ethnic enclaves in the cities but also there were ethnic villages mostly in the Midwest.
    The concept of being white and white nationalism was forced on them in the process that destroyed American cities.
    The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal As Ethnic Cleansing Hardcover – 2004
    by E. Michael Jones

    https://www.amazon.com/Slaughter-Cities-Renewal-Ethnic-Cleansing/dp/1587317753

    Blacks were used to accelerate the bone crushing and grinding process that was prerequisite for the creation of the goo called also Homo Americanus that is extruded from the melting pot. Irish, Italian, German, Polish or Slovak lost their ethnic identities and became merely Whites. It was not a happy exchange.”

    I see myself as Italian first and White second if I am in some Whitebread area. When I am surrounded by vibrant diversity I notice my own Whiteness more, because now I am no longer the swarthy Guinea because there are people with much darker skin than me, people with more exotic names than me.

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  72. @Verymuchalive
    How many Jews does it take to write a short piece about the Alt-Right in The NYT. The answer is three ( plus an Irish-American ).
    You couldn't make it up.

    I’ve read in the past that Barry is a Jew too.Outside of GG, Shamir and Unz?,there is not one Jew worth reading for non partisan info.
    If you want to be lied to,there is a plethora.

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  73. @Jefferson
    "Ironically if Jews hadn’t spent the last hundred years making up far left ideologies, they would have nothing to fear as they’d pass for just another white ethnic group."

    Jews already pass for White. For example the Jew Howard Stern said he was called a Cracka several times when he attended a predominantly Black school as a kid. The Jew Tim Wise was a victim of polar bear hunting in Washington DC.

    The Jew Tim Wise was a victim of polar bear hunting in Washington DC.

    I believe it was Matthew Yglesias, not Tim Wise:

    Matthew Yglesias on His Being Randomly Beaten by Blacks

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/matthew-yglesias-on-being-assaulted-by/

    @mattyglesias writes: “in a Trump administration angry mobs will beat and murder Jews” Yet Matt was victim of anti-white black violence.

    https://twitter.com/steve_sailer/status/786024841270865920

    Apparently, Tim Wise wisely lives in a 97% White neighborhood:

    Kudos to loyal reader Harold who caught the following comment on a leftist web site I linked to recently. It has some interesting information about Tim Wise, the trigger-happy, endlessly bloviating windbag:

    According to the Assessor of Property for Davidson County TN, the anti-white propagandist agitator Tim Wise lives in a house worth $639,300. The neighborhood he lives in, in Census Tract 134, is 97% white and ZERO PERCENT BLACK.

    Tim Wise is a hypocrite.

    http://albionmyway.blogspot.com/2013/02/hypocrite-scum-tim-wise-and-michael.html

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    • Replies: @Mark Green
    More on Tim Wise. This guy epitomizes all the worst elements of Jewish political activism.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2010/03/my-smackdown-with-anti-white-crusader-tim-wise/

  74. @FKA Max

    The Jew Tim Wise was a victim of polar bear hunting in Washington DC.
     
    I believe it was Matthew Yglesias, not Tim Wise:

    Matthew Yglesias on His Being Randomly Beaten by Blacks

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/matthew-yglesias-on-being-assaulted-by/


    @mattyglesias writes: "in a Trump administration angry mobs will beat and murder Jews" Yet Matt was victim of anti-white black violence.
     
    - https://twitter.com/steve_sailer/status/786024841270865920

    Apparently, Tim Wise wisely lives in a 97% White neighborhood:


    Kudos to loyal reader Harold who caught the following comment on a leftist web site I linked to recently. It has some interesting information about Tim Wise, the trigger-happy, endlessly bloviating windbag:

    According to the Assessor of Property for Davidson County TN, the anti-white propagandist agitator Tim Wise lives in a house worth $639,300. The neighborhood he lives in, in Census Tract 134, is 97% white and ZERO PERCENT BLACK.

    Tim Wise is a hypocrite.
     

    - http://albionmyway.blogspot.com/2013/02/hypocrite-scum-tim-wise-and-michael.html

    More on Tim Wise. This guy epitomizes all the worst elements of Jewish political activism.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2010/03/my-smackdown-with-anti-white-crusader-tim-wise/

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    • Replies: @FKA Max
    Thank you, Mr. Green.

    This one by Aedon Cassiel [ http://www.unz.com/author/aedon-cassiel/ ] is one of my favorites:

    Employers Hate Blacks, but They Love “Ebony”?

    About six years ago, I was still indoctrinated by leftist thought enough to start a small online group I called “ARSENAL” (it stood for something like “Anti-Racist Studies e-North American Library,” from what I can remember). I started the group for the purposes of sharing and discussing sociological studies on race; and among the individuals I invited there was a black lesbian sociology professor I encountered in a prison abolitionist group. [...]

    The first thread to go was a very well-known study by the title of “Are Emily and Greg More Employable Than Lakisha and Jamal? A Field Experiment in Labor Market Discrimination.”[1] The significance of this study to anti-racist sociology overall really can’t be overstated. Searching the Web of Science database for “social science” > “sociology” > “race” reveals that the top 100 studies have a rough average of about 600 citations each. “Are Emily and Greg More Employable than Lakisha and Jamal?” has over 1500. It’s one of the well-known “anti-racist educator” Tim Wise’s favorite studies to reference, as well (and this is how I discovered it): even as recently as March of 2014, it was the first of just five citations he chose to incorporate into a major public speech.[2]
     
    - http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/06/employers-hate-blacks-but-they-love-ebony/

    Wising Up to Uncle Tim

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/06/wising-up-to-uncle-tim/


    But the plus side, for us, is that this house of cards can’t continue to stand on its own “merits” without the help of the grunt army of useful idiots who have been convinced to actually believe this stuff sincerely; yet the lies are so blatant and severe that the task of unmasking them is easily within nearly anyone’s reach.
     
  75. @Mark Green
    More on Tim Wise. This guy epitomizes all the worst elements of Jewish political activism.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2010/03/my-smackdown-with-anti-white-crusader-tim-wise/

    Thank you, Mr. Green.

    This one by Aedon Cassiel [ http://www.unz.com/author/aedon-cassiel/ ] is one of my favorites:

    Employers Hate Blacks, but They Love “Ebony”?

    About six years ago, I was still indoctrinated by leftist thought enough to start a small online group I called “ARSENAL” (it stood for something like “Anti-Racist Studies e-North American Library,” from what I can remember). I started the group for the purposes of sharing and discussing sociological studies on race; and among the individuals I invited there was a black lesbian sociology professor I encountered in a prison abolitionist group. [...]

    The first thread to go was a very well-known study by the title of “Are Emily and Greg More Employable Than Lakisha and Jamal? A Field Experiment in Labor Market Discrimination.”[1] The significance of this study to anti-racist sociology overall really can’t be overstated. Searching the Web of Science database for “social science” > “sociology” > “race” reveals that the top 100 studies have a rough average of about 600 citations each. “Are Emily and Greg More Employable than Lakisha and Jamal?” has over 1500. It’s one of the well-known “anti-racist educator” Tim Wise’s favorite studies to reference, as well (and this is how I discovered it): even as recently as March of 2014, it was the first of just five citations he chose to incorporate into a major public speech.[2]

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/06/employers-hate-blacks-but-they-love-ebony/

    Wising Up to Uncle Tim

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/06/wising-up-to-uncle-tim/

    But the plus side, for us, is that this house of cards can’t continue to stand on its own “merits” without the help of the grunt army of useful idiots who have been convinced to actually believe this stuff sincerely; yet the lies are so blatant and severe that the task of unmasking them is easily within nearly anyone’s reach.

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  76. @SolontoCroesus
    Very true, iffen; it's best to have leaders who do not lead their people down a wrong path, particularly when they do so with lies and treachery, as did Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, who were so completely given over to the dark side that they partnered with a leader who had already slaughtered millions of his own people. I suppose if you're in the market for a homicidal maniac to destroy an up-and-coming competitor, Stalin had the CV that indicated he could get the job done.

    Take a look at this interesting counterfactual, and its relationship to present-day foreign policy:


    Great Britain caused WW2. But not entirely for the reason you think it did. You believe that GB caused WW2 because the International Bankers feared Hitler. I think your banker theory is one reason the USA has just destroyed Libya, Iraq and Syria , for example…along with the US desire to control all the oil in the Middle East….for these countries had their own banks. The bakers don't like that. But I think GB feared Germany as early as 1900 and caused WW1 when it had become obvious that the newly created Germany was soon to become the strongest country in Europe. England has always fought and destroyed the strongest country in Europe, be that country Portugal, France or Spain. It has done that for hundreds of years. WW2 was just another British attempt to remain the strongest country in Europe. That’s why GB bombed Germany mercilessly until the last days of the war, long after the threat of Hitler was over.


    I agree with you. The British secular "balance of power" Policy [see Vansittart, here ] also played a great role in the British will to destroy the rising Nazi Germany. And the huge Zionist influence in Britain was a major factor too (No world war, no Holohoax, no Israël.).
     

    [I disagree w/ this chronology: zionism & Jewish homeland in Palestine were done deals by 1937-1938. It's not the case that Hitler is responsible for the holocaust which produced Israel; rather, zionism and the zionist requirements for migration of "only racially pure Jews"* to Palestine and, obviously, the elimination of the non-racially pure Jews, necessitated a war and a so-called holocaust.]

    back to the counterfactual/quote:


    I would add a that "No Hitler" would mean no WW2 and the destruction of Britain's great rival, Germany; "No Hitler" also meant that the Jews of Germany would continue to assimilate into German society so much that they would be all but gone as a religion in two more generations ...and that certainly meant no Israel; no WW2 meant that Europe would not be destroyed and it would thus rival the USA a world power.`No WW2 `` meant that the Brits would be able to hold on to their Commonwealth for a few more years....and GB would remain a rival to the USA ...So there was a heck of a lot of double crossing , sneaky, hidden agendas to get WW2 going...
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8127#p61019
     
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    * "In his article Die Auslese des Menschenmaterials für Palaestina (The Selection of the Human Material) Ruppin tackled this issue bluntly:

    “Here I will touch upon a question which is also important: whether there is a possibility of effecting an influence in the direction of purifying the Jewish race. Since we want to develop in Eretz Yisrael specifically what is Jewish, it will obviously be desirable that only the racially pure come to the land” (Ruppin 1919e, 72).
    Nevertheless, since the race sciences had not yet defined who, exactly, was a pure Jewish type, Ruppin believed that the process had to be based on the “selection of the fittest” "

    when they do so with lies and treachery, as did Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill

    I’ve told you before that you need to re-read your Machiavelli and learn from it.

    A great leader will do whatever needs to be done to save his people from destruction. Evidently, your boy H. didn’t understand that any more than you.

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  77. @SolontoCroesus
    Very true, iffen; it's best to have leaders who do not lead their people down a wrong path, particularly when they do so with lies and treachery, as did Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, who were so completely given over to the dark side that they partnered with a leader who had already slaughtered millions of his own people. I suppose if you're in the market for a homicidal maniac to destroy an up-and-coming competitor, Stalin had the CV that indicated he could get the job done.

    Take a look at this interesting counterfactual, and its relationship to present-day foreign policy:


    Great Britain caused WW2. But not entirely for the reason you think it did. You believe that GB caused WW2 because the International Bankers feared Hitler. I think your banker theory is one reason the USA has just destroyed Libya, Iraq and Syria , for example…along with the US desire to control all the oil in the Middle East….for these countries had their own banks. The bakers don't like that. But I think GB feared Germany as early as 1900 and caused WW1 when it had become obvious that the newly created Germany was soon to become the strongest country in Europe. England has always fought and destroyed the strongest country in Europe, be that country Portugal, France or Spain. It has done that for hundreds of years. WW2 was just another British attempt to remain the strongest country in Europe. That’s why GB bombed Germany mercilessly until the last days of the war, long after the threat of Hitler was over.


    I agree with you. The British secular "balance of power" Policy [see Vansittart, here ] also played a great role in the British will to destroy the rising Nazi Germany. And the huge Zionist influence in Britain was a major factor too (No world war, no Holohoax, no Israël.).
     

    [I disagree w/ this chronology: zionism & Jewish homeland in Palestine were done deals by 1937-1938. It's not the case that Hitler is responsible for the holocaust which produced Israel; rather, zionism and the zionist requirements for migration of "only racially pure Jews"* to Palestine and, obviously, the elimination of the non-racially pure Jews, necessitated a war and a so-called holocaust.]

    back to the counterfactual/quote:


    I would add a that "No Hitler" would mean no WW2 and the destruction of Britain's great rival, Germany; "No Hitler" also meant that the Jews of Germany would continue to assimilate into German society so much that they would be all but gone as a religion in two more generations ...and that certainly meant no Israel; no WW2 meant that Europe would not be destroyed and it would thus rival the USA a world power.`No WW2 `` meant that the Brits would be able to hold on to their Commonwealth for a few more years....and GB would remain a rival to the USA ...So there was a heck of a lot of double crossing , sneaky, hidden agendas to get WW2 going...
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8127#p61019
     
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    * "In his article Die Auslese des Menschenmaterials für Palaestina (The Selection of the Human Material) Ruppin tackled this issue bluntly:

    “Here I will touch upon a question which is also important: whether there is a possibility of effecting an influence in the direction of purifying the Jewish race. Since we want to develop in Eretz Yisrael specifically what is Jewish, it will obviously be desirable that only the racially pure come to the land” (Ruppin 1919e, 72).
    Nevertheless, since the race sciences had not yet defined who, exactly, was a pure Jewish type, Ruppin believed that the process had to be based on the “selection of the fittest” "

    You’re a nut.

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