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A large number of Americans still don’t believe the official version of the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington. I am one of them.

The government and tame media version – that crazed Muslims directed by Osama bin Laden attacked New York’s twin towers and the Pentagon because they hated ‘our freedoms’ and our religions – is wearing very thin as contrary evidence piles up.

Ever since the attacks, I’ve held the belief that neither bin Laden nor Afghanistan’s Taliban were involved, though bin Laden did applaud the attacks after the fact and remains a key suspect. Unfortunately, he was murdered by a US hit squad instead of being brought to the US to stand trial. Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, was adamant that bin Laden was not behind the attacks.

So who did it? In my view, the attacks were financed by private citizens in Saudi Arabia and organized from Germany and possibly Spain. All the hijackers came from states nominally allied to the US or its protectorates.

Fifteen of the 19 were Saudis. Two came from the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and one each from Egypt and Lebanon. Amazingly, during the national uproar after the attacks, little attention was focused on Saudi Arabia, a key US ally (or protectorate) even though most of the hijackers were Saudi citizens, and a planeload of important Saudis were quietly ushered out of the US by the CIA soon after the attacks.

Saudi Arabia was too important to US domination of the Mideast to point any fingers at the Saudis. The Saudi royal regime in Riyadh did not appear to have been involved – why would it since their survival and gravy train depended on US protection?

But the royal regime does not represent all Saudis, as many people believe. Saudi Arabia is a collection of tribes played off against one another by Riyadh and kept in line by the US Air Force from its bases in Saudi and a tribal force, ‘the white army,’ led by American ‘advisors.’ Saudi Arabia has little in the way of a regular army because its rulers fear coups by the armed forces such as occurred in Egypt, Iraq and Syria.

In addition, over 40,000 Americans live and work in Saudi. Another 5,000 US military personnel are stationed there. Much of the kingdom’s technology – banking, telecommunications, airports and flights, trains, military affairs, TV and radio – are supervised by foreigners. This process began in the 1920’s when the British moved into Arabia and helped promote the Saudi tribe to prominence.

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A sizeable Yemeni community lives in Saudi. The bin Laden family originally hailed from Yemen. Saudi also has an important Shia Muslim minority, about 20% of the population, with smaller numbers of other Muslim sects. Most important, the reactionary, ultra rigid Wahabi religious sect still dominates the nation and royal family. The Wahabis hate Shia, calling them apostates and heretics. A similar dim view is taken of the nine million foreign workers, principally Indians, Pakistanis and other South Asians, who do all of the Kingdom’s dirty work.

Within the complexities of Saudi Society lie bitterly anti-western groups who see the nation as being militarily occupied by the US and exploited – even pillaged – by foreigners. Arabia was originally the holy land of Islam. Today, it has been westernized, occupied by US military power, and given marching orders by Washington.

While covering the Afghan War in the 1980’s, I met Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, a fiery nationalist leader and anti-communist who was bin Laden’s teacher and spiritual mentor.

“When we succeed in kicking the Russians out of Afghanistan,” Azzam told me, “we will go on and kick the Americans out of Saudi Arabia.” I was shocked, never having heard of Americans called ‘occupiers’. Azzam was murdered by a bomb soon after, but his words kept ringing in my ears. He thought of the Americans as much colonialists as the Soviets.

Private nationalist groups in Saudi who bitterly opposed foreign domination of their country could very well have financed and organized 9/11. But, of course, Washington could not admit this. That would have brought into question the US occupation of Saudi.

What’s also pretty clear is that Israel – at minimum – knew the attack was coming yet failed to warn its American ‘allies.’ Israel was the chief beneficiary of the 9/11 attacks – yet its bumbling Arab foes and bin Laden were blamed for this crime.

(Republished from EricMargolis.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Finally, in the last paragraph, Margolis mentions Israel as the “chief beneficiary” of the 9/11 attacks. Saudi Arabia, who he mostly blames, was a patsy. Six of the alleged “hijackers” (who couldn’t fly a kite, much less a jet plane) were found alive and well in Saudi the day after the attack. Israel, and the Jewish loyal-to-Israel Neocons in Washington were the ONLY beneficiaries, because their control of Congress and the White House meant endless war against countries Israel wanted destroyed. Thanks to trillions of dollars extracted from the hijacked American taxpayer, we’re still in those wars.

    Margolis doesn’t mention the “dancing Israelis”, or the fact that the buildings fell in controlled demolition, not office fires ignited by airplane fuel. In short, this article tells nothing about “Who Was Really Behind 9/11”, and I’m surprised Unz published it.

  2. Biff says:

    Israel was the chief beneficiary of the 9/11 attacks – yet its bumbling Arab foes and bin Laden were blamed for this crime.

    So what are you really saying?

  3. Alistair says:

    “Who Was Really Behind 9/11?” – whomever had benefited the most from it; mainly Israel, the Global Oil Industry, and the US Military Industrial Complex.

    After 18 years of speculation and over analyzing; it should be obvious by now that those whom had benefited the most form the 9/11 tragedy had vested interests to mastermind and sponsor the plot; mainly Israel, the Global Oil Industry, and the US Military Industrial Complex.

  4. Hillbob says:

    Where are the hijackers that are supposedly alive? Would not that be the scoop of the century in finding them?

  5. The Saudi inner circle failed to kill a single Washington Post journalist w/o them being exposed for all the world to see. To suggest now that their peers within the Kingdom could manage pull off 9/11 — and get a pass, moreover, from US opinion- and decision-makers, is absolutely preposterous. Like EM states in his column, the Saudi Kingdom relies on foreign experts for technical expertise, as well as the masses imported from abroad for the “dirty jobs”. Planning and executing 9/11 would surely be above their capacity, except as bankrollers.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  6. MarkU says:
    @Hillbob

    Scoop of the century you think? it took me less than 30 seconds to find this. Less time than it took you to make your comment I would imagine.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm

    • Replies: @anon
  7. “When we succeed in kicking the Russians out of Afghanistan,” Azzam told me, “we will go on and kick the Americans out of Saudi Arabia.” I was shocked, never having heard of Americans called ‘occupiers’.
    You were pretty naive then and time hasn’t helped you.

  8. Truth3 says:

    Oh my God.

    The massive respect that Eric Margolis built up over the years just evaporated.

    Fear of a Mossad hit the most likely root caue of this misdirection coverup piece.

    Time to retire Eric.

    • Agree: Republic, NoseytheDuke
    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  9. eric you are trying to misdirect your slower witted readers TO who did the attacks rather than the REAL crux of the attack which is HOW did the buildings come down. airplanes did not bring those buildings… not then…. not now… not ever!

    good try eric but no sale.

    those building came down in freefall ONLY possible using controlled demolition. any OTHER explanation is bullshit meant to persuade idiots.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  10. @Orest Slepokura

    Yup–Bin Laden was the patsy–the Saudis are the initial limited hang out explanation eighteen years later……

    At this rate the relevant facts may be found in an archaeological dig in a thousand years or so…

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  11. It’s pretty obvious by now that most of the royal families in the Gulf, the House of Saud in particular, have been bought out by America and Israel.

    I wonder how much longer these people will accept that ultimately their rulers take their orders from Tel Aviv, just as much as America does. I guess as long as the football, malls and Ferraris hold out. Bin Laden was a hero for fighting against what he correctly saw as foreign domination of his nation and people.

  12. The Afghan government, which was under attack, requested the Soviets help in Afghanistan. What the Saudis really mean is that they were part of the opposition to the Afghan government who were open to women working and being educated.
    Margolis puts himself in contact in the 1980s, at a time the Saudis were already softening their line on Israel after hardliner King Faisal was assassinated in 1974, and Wahhabism was virtually unknown.

    Aside from the highjackers found alive, there was the pious Muslim Mohammed Atta, who was a druggie and liked to drink in bars while spending $200 to $300 each on lap dances in the Pink Pony strip club, most often with his buddy Marwan al-Shehhi. Both were learning to fly at Huffman Aviation who are said to have CIA contacts and be involved with drug smuggling.

    I have said from day one that the official narrative had more holes than a Swiss cheese. That 4 passenger airplanes could be left flying around for more than an hour and no military scrambled to cover is impossible without a direct stop order. Why would that order be given? No “drill” would override a national security risk. It took the USAF less than 15 minutes to surround golfer Payne Stewart’s private jet after air traffic control got no response from the pilot, and it wouldn’t have taken much longer to have all 4 covered.

    Israel’s attacks on its neighbours was lost in the on to Afghanistan drumbeat.

  13. anon[832] • Disclaimer says:

    It is possible to run a project like Mamnhattan project for a decade and empty 50,000 people and still keep the purpose a secret except among those who were the 5-6 scientists and some fellows in the government.
    911 could have happened because of unsuspecting helps that the planners received from many sources including possibly from the hijckers and 2nd tier level planners. There comes th roles of Israel. You work with them They agree to execute a sinister acts with you ,but then they insert something much worse and hold the entire swords dangling on your head .

    There are evidences of these in US-Zionism history . Fullbright ,the senator was told that exposing the predecessor of AIPAC will bring the entire admisntration and the military top echelon down.

    Now they have Epstein,surveillance and backdoor entry to the eavesdropping .

  14. Scott O says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Before you wrote this Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth released the analysis by a group at Univ Alaska Fairbanks that showed that fire could not have knocked down WTC 7, only simultaneously removing support from all the structural columns in the building, causing the top floors to free fall for a little over two seconds. The government’s model showed that the exterior of the building would have deformed if the mode of failure were as they claimed, so they stopped their model right at that point. The new report confirms that the NIST mechanism is not consistent with what was filmed from all four sides of the building.

    How can you propound a theory that does not account for this fact, as well as many others?

    • Replies: @Republic
  15. Iceman says:

    This is a BS article!

    • Replies: @Republic
  16. @Fool's Paradise

    . In short, this article tells nothing about “Who Was Really Behind 9/11”, and I’m surprised Unz published it.

    Totally agree! There are just so many pointers to Israel being behind it and the USG cooperating all along the line.

    The “impossible” planes made of apparently indestructible sheet aluminium that were capable of slicing through steel-reinforced concrete, (Straight through the towers and almost out the other side.) but which left not a trace of themselves.

    Strange how planes from the same production lines can be disabled by hitting a goose!

    The way the “Security” in all the airports that the “doomed” planes came from were the same Israeli company that missed the magical box cutters with which the Saudi hijackers “were able to overpower the militarily trained crews”.

    Strange too that the airforce “just happened to be” stood down that day and could not be activated except by the Secretary of State for Defence, who “just happened to be unavailable”.

    Strange that at least one of the “doomed” airliners was not taken out of service for a couple of years after 9/11.

    Strange also that not one body, not one engine, not one wing or tailplane survived the attack on the Pentagon and all the cctv cameras that might have recorded that attack, “were undergoing maintenance” that day. (They were also leased from an Israeli company.)

    Then there is the curious fact that the airliner that crashed in a field in Pennsylvania, left a hole that was not surrounded by wreckage and was not searched for bodies. I could go on, there are many other pointers, but, you get my drift.

    9/11 was the stone that killed so many USG birds and so benefitted the Israeli government and certain Jewish customers of insurance companies, that it seems quite extraordinary (Not to say perverse.) to blame the Saudis!

  17. @Fool's Paradise

    Not to mention why would these so-called Islamic terrorists specifically target airports controlled and ‘guarded by Israeli Mossad or Shin Beit,(same difference to me) ?

    And why doesn’`t Eric Margolis who probably has friends or family from Israel not demand that the ‘dancing Israelis’ return to the U.S.and answer serious questions from the American public rather than being pampered by Israeli Michael Chertoff anf their friends at the FBI and CIA and the White House and Congress of course which has post 9/11 completely taken over by pro-Israel prostitutes !?

    In fact as Whitney Webb has pointed out that the ‘dancing Israelis’ Mossad Urban Moving Systems boss Dominik Otto Suter who fled immediately after 9/11 , returned to the U.S. and has never been on any no fly list ,UNLIKE SOME INNOCENT AMERICANS, and has gotten employment with Zionist internet companies since then such as Google and Microsoft,etc.. ! His name should be much better known to the public than Osama bin Ladin or Mohamed Atta.I wonder why it isn’`t ?

    We still have Zionist Israeli suspects with the highest ranking jobs at the NSA and throughout the U.S. government and military industrial complex. Does Eric Margolis live on another planet ?

  18. @Justvisiting

    Yup–Bin Laden was the patsy–the Saudis are the initial limited hang out explanation eighteen years later……
    At this rate the relevant facts may be found in an archaeological dig in a thousand years or so…

    I think by now we know the who and the why. We are still lacking the details of what and how.

  19. @Hillbob

    The pictures and names of the six “hijackers” who turned up alive and well in Saudi Arabia, were published in papers a few days after the event. A little searching should find them.

  20. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkU

    What this news article shows is that the FBI had an initial list of suspects shortly after the attacks, and that these 6 men on the list turned out to not be part of the hijacking. Other suspects on the original list, and others not on the original list, could still be the true hijackers.
    Finding that some of the original suspects were in fact innocent doesn’t prove that the FBI was deliberately giving out a fake suspect list, as you are implying.

  21. This article is bullshit. You know this from the first few sentences : Osama did not applaud the attacks

    You fucking Zionist moron.

  22. equivocating, evasive, insipid, shirking, tepid, timid, weak tea, wishy-washy

    but understandably so

    mess with the bull, get the horns

  23. So, you dismiss the idea that it was crazed muslims led by OBL, in favor of the idea that it was regular muslims led by some other rich and influential muslims. Naturally, it couldn’t have been the evil jews or even some regular jews, because that would be one of them conspiracy theories.

    I’m in awe of your genius over here.

    • Replies: @zimriel
  24. @Fool's Paradise

    ” In short, this article tells nothing about “Who Was Really Behind 9/11”, and I’m surprised Unz published it.”

    Well, maybe Eric is just asking the question so somebody might tell him in the comments. He ain’t exactly one of the great clear thinkers of the age, y’know.

  25. Republic says:
    @Scott O

    the analysis by a group at Univ Alaska Fairbanks

    According to a recent article by Paul Craig Roberts, no publication in the US covered this story. Only a minor TV station and a small newspaper in Alaska covered it.

    The story however got attention abroad by such outlets as RT

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  26. Republic says:
    @Iceman

    For sure, much like the 9/11 articles by Fred Reed

  27. @anon

    Finding that some of the original suspects were in fact innocent doesn’t prove that the FBI was deliberately giving out a fake suspect list

    As proof of their good faith the FBI has apologized to the innocent suspects and conducted a worldwide search to find the real ones….right?

    OJ is still looking for the “real killer” as well… 😉

    • Replies: @anon
  28. A recent report from a reputable university has shown that WTC building 7 was not brought down by office fires.

    • Replies: @Republic
  29. I used to think that the reason the 9/11 Truth Movement concentrates on loony theories about “controlled demolition”, missiles, and wing-pods was that the CIA planted this nonsense to make skeptics look like fools. Very recently I realized that if Truthers ask the obvious question, cui bono, they will immediately be de-platformed from all media as anti-Semitic Nazis.

  30. @Hillbob

    How could we even tell if they’re still alive? Aren’t most of them named Mohammed?

  31. @Curmudgeon

    We should have helped the Soviets in Afghanistan instead of opposing them. Ivan, here’s a list of the training camps we’ve identified by satellite — go get ’em!

  32. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Justvisiting

    I don’t know what these 6 were up to or not up to. We know they were initially reported to be dead and turns out they were alive. That fact doesn’t point to a government cover-up. If other facts point to a government cover-up, fine, but finding the 6 to be alive after all is unremarkable and shouldn’t be tossed around as proof of a cover-up.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  33. zimriel says:
    @Twodees Partain

    This article read, to me : “we don’t know it was OBL, dissident semiYemeni Saudi as he was. The hijackers were mostly dissident Saudis with a few Yemenis and a couple others. It wasn’t the Saudi government, so it was more likely dissident semiYemeni Saudis.”

    Occam’s Razor would point, if not to OBL directly, then at least to people VERY close to OBL. As in: people working alongside OBL in the terrorist campaign OBL was running worldwide.

    I think this article exists to explain the obvious to the Jew haters on this site, that OBL did what he said he did. America was, as of 2001, so weak that – indeed – some Muslim fanatics, of which there are many, were able to pull off this attack. No Jews necessary. The article just had to work around the issue because Unz is a site catering to Jew haters; but the Jew haters have gotten so odious that they need to be reined back.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  34. Miro23 says:

    A large number of Americans still don’t believe the official version of the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington. I am one of them.

    I would rephrase that. “A large number of Americans (and others) increasingly don’t believe the official version of 9/11″. At the start, almost everyone believed it (including myself) and it took years for the real story to filter out (Building 7, and the other technical impossibilities.)

    So who did it? In my view, the attacks were financed by private citizens in Saudi Arabia and organized from Germany and possibly Spain. All the hijackers came from states nominally allied to the US or its protectorates.

    As someone who appears on Canadian TV, CNN and contributes to Huffington Post , Margolis is a good guide to real time MSM spin/propaganda.

    Since the official account is losing all credibility, Margolis and others have been instructed to “discover” that it was all a Saudi plot (to fight the US military presence in their country). Does this ridiculous idea have the Saudis gaining access to these buildings? Preparing them for demolition? Carrying out the intricate co-ordination of the hijacks? Suppression of air defense etc.? And BTW did the Saudis also arranged for Israelis and US Zionists to appear in key positions all over the story?

    It was Netanyahu who joined a celebration of retired Irgun terrorists to commemorate the bombing of the King David Hotel (HQ of British Mandate Palestine).

    In 1946 there was the Jewish Irgun terrorist attack on the King David Hotel (HQ of British Mandate Palestine). Dressed as Arabs, the Zionists placed explosives on the main support pillars of the building (sounds familiar?) which collapsed killing 91 people. Far from feeling bad about it, Netanyahu attended a celebration (July 2006) “to mark the 60th anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel” (organized by Menachem Begin Heritage House). He’s the same person who went on to describe the mysterious 9/11 WTC terror bombings as “Very good for us”.

    IRGUN TERROR BOMBING OF THE KING DAVID HOTEL

    1) ) The hotel housed the central administrative offices of the post war British Mandate government of Palestine.
    2) Zionist terrorists disguised as Arab delivery men, waiters and workmen placed 7 milk churns loaded with 350kg of explosives against the main structural pillars of the building in the basement.
    3) The charges were detonated at 12.37hrs on 22nd July 1946, partially collapsing the hotel and killing 91 people.
    3) In July 2006 Netanyahu attended a celebration “to mark the 60th anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel” (organized by Menachem Begin Heritage House).
    4) He later went on to describe the 9/11 WTC terror bombings as “Very good for us”.

    In July 2006, the former prime minister and leader of the Likud, Benjamin Netanyahu, attended a two-day 60th anniversary celebration of the King David Hotel bombing with former terrorists of the Irgun and Haganah. The event was organized by the Menachem Begin Heritage House, the University of Haifa, and the Association of IZL [Irgun] Fighters. The seminar was held “to mark the 60th anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel, Jerusalem, by members of the United Resistance Movement (Haganah and Irgun),” the Jerusalem Post noted in its pre-event notices. The Israeli newspaper specifically noted that members of the Haganah and Irgun had been involved in the terrorist bombing.

    One of the terrorists even led a tour of the hotel he had bombed. The fact that the American-educated right-wing politician and terror specialist, “Bibi” Netanyahu, had participated in a two-day event celebrating the bombing of the King David Hotel was reported in the Jerusalem Post, and in leading newspapers in Britain, France, and India – but not a single word about the event was printed in the controlled press of the United States, the nation supposedly fighting a “War on Terror.”

    Netanyahu’s conspicuous role as the main speaker at an event celebrating an act of terrorism was not reported in any U.S. newspaper until Patrick Buchanan mentioned it in his article entitled “Moral Culpability for Qana,” on August 2, 2006. Buchanan’s comments, however, appeared only in independent regional newspapers in Pittsburgh, Wyoming, and Ohio:

    Rubbing our noses in our own cravenness, “Bibi” Netanyahu took time out a week ago to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the terror attack on the King David Hotel by Menachem Begin’s Irgun, an attack that killed 92 people, among them British nurses. This was not a terrorist act, Bibi explained, because Irgun telephoned a 15-minute warning to the hotel before the bombs went off.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  35. @paraglider

    those building came down in freefall ONLY possible using controlled demolition. any OTHER explanation is bullshit meant to persuade idiots.

    This might be true of Building #7 but Twin Towers collapsed because the upper parts of the buildings caved in. All that falling mass crushed what was below it.

  36. This piece is an embarassment. Absolutely pathetic, after the articles on 9/11 that have appeared on this site written by Ron, Laurent Guyenot, Paul Craig Roberts, Kevin Barrett, and others. Either Margolis is not very intelligent, or he is a liar.

    • Agree: Republic, Pat Kittle
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  37. @anon

    Please read this book:

    Best wishes.

  38. Sean says:

    While covering the Afghan War in the 1980’s, I met Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, a fiery nationalist leader and anti-communist who was bin Laden’s teacher and spiritual mentor.

    “When we succeed in kicking the Russians out of Afghanistan,” Azzam told me, “we will go on and kick the Americans out of Saudi Arabia.”

    And they did get the Americans out of Saudi Arabia, didn’t they?

    George W. Bush’s Mission Accomplished speech was on May 1, 2003

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_Saudi_Arabia
    Since Saudi Arabia houses the holiest sites in Islam (Mecca and Medina), a number of Muslims, including Bin Laden and his supporters, were outraged at the permanent presence of non-Muslim U.S., British and French military personnel. The continued presence of U.S. troops after the Gulf War in Saudi Arabia was also one of the stated motivations behind the September 11th terrorist attacks[1] and the Khobar Towers bombing. The date of the 1998 United States embassy bombings was eight years to the day (August 7) that American troops were sent to Saudi Arabia. The U.S. had rejected the characterization of its presence as an “occupation”, noting that the government of Saudi Arabia consented to the presence of troops. On April 29, 2003, Donald Rumsfeld announced that he would be withdrawing remaining U.S. troops from the country.

  39. @Priss Factor

    uh, actually no.

    1. building came down symeterically within its own footprint……..something that can ONLY take when ALL supporting columns are sheared off in a specific explosive pattern within a few seconds.

    2. what happened at the 80th floor has NOTHING to do with lower columns being simultaenously sheared

    3. if you what you state occurred there would have been an asymtetrical toppling of the building with pieces and sections collapsing whiles others remained

    have a google at the israeli airliner that smashed into an apartment building after taking off from schipol airport in amsterdam to see what REALLY happens when an airliner hits a building

    4. building was remotely demolished there is no there no other explanation that obeys the laws of physics same as the twin towers.

    you are free to believe whatever fairy tale helps you sleep at night

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  40. Biff says:
    @Priss Factor

    This might be true of Building #7 but Twin Towers collapsed because the upper parts of the buildings caved in. All that falling mass crushed what was below it.

    Unless you destroy the support columns, the building will remain standing no matter what falls apart around them – and don’t take my word for it, ask any architect or structural engineer.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  41. @Biff

    Unless you destroy the support columns, the building will remain standing no matter what falls apart around them

    Around them, correct.

    But not when it’s above them. When all that weight comes crashing down, it has an avalanche effect.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  42. @paraglider

    have a google at the israeli airliner that smashed into an apartment building after taking off from schipol airport in amsterdam to see what REALLY happens when an airliner hits a building

    Bad comparison. That building was wide, not tall.

    • Replies: @Low Voltage
  43. wesmouch says:

    Margolis fails to mention that elements of the US government had to be involved, either in the planning or the coverup. How else could the 9/11 commission report have so many holes. Sheer incompetence cannot explain this. Shame on Mr Margolis for such a substandard article

    • Replies: @Sean
  44. @Miro23

    Since the official account is losing all credibility, Margolis and others have been instructed to “discover” that it was all a Saudi plot (to fight the US military presence in their country). Does this ridiculous idea have the Saudis gaining access to these buildings? Preparing them for demolition? Carrying out the intricate co-ordination of the hijacks? Suppression of air defense etc.? And BTW did the Saudis also arranged for Israelis and US Zionists to appear in key positions all over the story?

    It was likely a rogue Saudi plot shadow-guided by rogue Zionist elements who, pretending to be radical Muslim, provided material aid and ‘advice’. These Saudis were likely unwitting tools of an even bigger plot. Plot within a plot.

  45. Sean says:

    The top level order for the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi (a boyhood friend of Osama bin Laden, who was made a hero by Khashoggi’s reporting from Afghanistan) the right hand man to Turki bin Faisal Al Saud the head of Saudi intelligence until ten days before 9/11/ suggests he maybe knew something about 9/11. Khashoggi was critical of Wahhabism and if there was any Saudi state involvement with 9/11 it was probably in the Wahhabite department of Islamic Affairs at the Washington Embassy. Khashoggi might know the San Diego cell of the 9/11 hijackers was benefiting from a CIA and Saudi intelligence joint effort to penetrate Al Qaeda, which is what some exFBI agents have alleged.

    Turki bin Faisal fell from favour. Khashoggi then became associated with Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a genuinely gifted businessman who is who is by far the most able Saudi, and donated to NYC after 9/11 (rejected at the behest of th Israel Lobby) and was mentioned as a future king. Khashoggi was to be head of a TV station that Alwaleed bin Talal was setting up but it was ordered to close down and later Alwaleed bin Talal was the main victim of the so called anti corruption drive in which princes were imprisoned and tortured. The arrest of Alwaleed bin Talal came days after he asked Khashoggi to return to Saudi Arabia.

  46. Sean says:
    @wesmouch

    Government reports are to pacify the public. The Warren commission was to disabuse the public of any idea that Cuba and Russia had any involvement in the assassination of JFK. They kept Oswald’s KGB links secret for almost 60 years and only revealed them in 2017 because Trump demanded the CIA’s JFK files be declassified. Everyone was terrified, ‘Guns Of August’ style, that the public would force the government to start WW3 over JFK’s assassination unless they were reassured. That was the cover up.

    There are still some things the CIA refuse to reveal despite Trump’s pledge and the rumour is one is a report that while in the Cuban Consulate in Mexico City Oswald made an offer to kill Kennedy. The still classified file are thought to be mainly from from the CIA’s Mexico City station. So the the real cover-up was concealing exactly what opportunists like Mark Lane claimed it was that the government was trying to disseminate, namely the evidence suggesting Oswald was working for the commies. In his own mind he was.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  47. @anon

    Well it does if they never came up with new suspects when they knew or should have known they got the wrong guys. It is not the original mistake that matters; it is failing to correct it once they knew.

  48. @Priss Factor

    All of that falling mass above the airplane damage was nowhere near the mass of the buildings below the airplane damage. The steel at the top was only one inch steel and the steel at the bottom was four inches.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  49. Republic says:
    @Si1ver1ock

    That 100 second TV report from KTVA in Alaska was the only television report in the entire United States on that University of Alaska study

  50. @davidgmillsatty

    All of that falling mass above the airplane damage was nowhere near the mass of the buildings below the airplane damage. The steel at the top was only one inch steel and the steel at the bottom was four inches.

    It’s the compounding factor as the debris kept piling up. It’s like an avalanche. The twin towers did crumble from top to bottom. If there had been controlled demolition, the entire structure would have collapsed at once. Also, 4 inch steel or not, everything has limits. Esp as the second tower was hit right in the middle, the entire weight of the upper half fell on the lower half.

    The other building’s collapse may be a bit more iffy because the plane hit the upper part, so there was considerably less weight collapsing on the solid part of the building.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  51. Iris says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    Their should be a LOL button for articles such as this one.

    • Agree: Fool's Paradise
  52. @Priss Factor

    Numerous scientists (physicists and mathematicians) have calculated the possibility of that scenario over and over again with the result always being the the mass above the building would at most crush two or three floors (can’t remember the exact number but it is only a few). After that a collapse is arrested or the top floors fall off to the side.

  53. Unfortunately, he was murdered by a US hit squad instead of being brought to the US to stand trial.“

    I’m wondering why such nonsense appears at Unz Review. According to reports at the time, Osama-bin-Laden died in a cave in December 2001. CNN reported this at the time and an Egyptian newspaper featured an obituary.

    The so-called confession video a few weeks later was an obvious fake. The US “hit squat” fake-news avalanche was just a distraction, after revelations that Barak Obama, upon being forced to so by Trump, had the White House publicize a fake “birth certificate”. It was essentially a panic button operation, pulled out of the drawer for an emergency, presumably intended to be deployed a year later, just prior to the 2012 elections, as a media ploy to garner sympathy.

    Hey, deal with it y’all:
    The events in lower Manhattan that day (September 11, 2001) were actually a NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST. Three nuclear explosions, purportedly from three de-commissioned US missiles, purportedly were stolen by Israeli operatives, transferred to New Jersey, then to Manhattan and ultimately placed below WTC buildings 1 & 2 & 7.

    This information has been out for nearly 18 years, especially after very hot temperatures continued to be recorded in late 2001 at the WTC. In the meantime the process has been explained publicly. More recently the mechanism has been explained in greater detail.

    Of course there were demolitions by thermite, which were necessary to create a shaft in the middle of the building (because the one service elevator from bottom to top was too narrow), and as a redundancy back-up, but that alone cannot account for numerous observations that day.

    Check out three-part embedded YouTube video presentation and 25-stage color process diagrams here for details:

    Veterans Today
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/09/11/the-real-crimes-of-9-11/

    Also, a public presentation before a Swiss audience last year on the putative nuclear destruction mechanism:

    9/11 A Nuclear War Crime, Solving the 9/11 contradictions. Presentation by scientist Heinz Pommer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu_bCod3aEY

    Altogether, that’s more than three hours of video to digest.

    No serious researcher with a scientific education believes the official narrative; that’s just for “public consumption” (essentially gullible conformists).

    Only the slow nuclear explosion model explains the following (eight) observed phenomena that day, which the hypothesis, through controlled thermite alone (promoted by Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth), cannot account for:

    • Disturbances and interference with video camera sensors (helicopters and personal phones)

    • Multiple cases of vehicle ignition and combustion half a mile away from the WTC

    • Strong upward airflow experienced by the 9-11 “surfer” fireman, who fell down many floors

    • Conspicuous nuclear mushroom cloud nearly a mile high above Building 7 demolition site

    • Pyroclastic ejections of vaporized steel and pulverized concrete from inside, like a volcano

    • Parabolic upward and then downward ejection pattern like at the tip of a water fountain

    • Significant release of energy that liquified granite rock for many months after the event

    • Radioactive recordings publicized by the US Geographical Survey

    Anyone who is unaware of these findings should spend some time to get “up to speed”. According to the explanation model, the delayed activation was due to the fact that the uranium purity had degraded, so that an instantaneous explosion upon activation could not occur.

    Preliminary estimations, based on cumulative energy release, are that 150 kiloton bombs were used, with similar yields as those exploded over Hiroshima. The difference was that in 1945 it exploded in the air, high above the Japanese city, whereas in lower Manhattan the three bombs were embedded underground and were subject to a narrow collimation effect through the enlarged central elevator shafts of the buildings.

  54. @zimriel

    Occam’s Razor? No, you’re using Occam’s chainsaw. Unless Mossad is made up of muslims, then it makes no sense at all to conclude that muslims could have or would have planned and executed the coup of ’01. Israel benefited, solely, not Americans, not Middle East muslims, only Israel.

    More precisely, it was just a segment of Israelis who benefit from having the US military conduct all of these wars in the Middle East. You assume hatred of jews when what is expressed here by many people is simply awareness of massive criminal activity. When the crimes are committed by Israelis at the behest of some deranged, wealthy jews, then recognizing that fact isn’t “jew hatred”, it’s just clear thinking.

    Anyway, Phil wrote this for Lew Rockwell.com, not for any “jew haters on this site”.. Look at the first line of the article on LRC:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/09/eric-margolis/dead-men-tell-no-tales-bin-laden-and-9-11/

    It reads, “Special for LewRockwell.com”.

    Sorry you feel so unwelcome here.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  55. @Priss Factor

    “All that falling mass crushed what was below it.”

    Seek help before you snap and kill us all.

  56. What’s going on here? EM shining the light away from the main culprits. Has he been to visit Epstein’s island by any chance and gotten a reminder? What else can explain this travesty of an article?

  57. @David Bauer

    ” Either Margolis is not very intelligent, or he is a liar.”

    I think he’s both. Being unintelligent and lying are common traits among leftists.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  58. @Been_there_done_that

    Two additional observations – now ten – consistent with nuclear explosions on 9-11 but inexplicable by mere thermite controlled demolition:

    • Steam escaping from the ground prior to and during building collapses due to high temperatures

    • Loss of rotational momentum of upper portion of South Tower (offset by 15°)

    Aside from that there are the numerous cancers. 70 thousand people have become sick.

    It is hard to refute all the evidence.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  59. Sean says:

    The American Army had been in Saudi Arabia since 1991 because Saddam was still in power just across the border in Iraq. The 9/11 event led to the invasion of Iraq,Saddam being ousted ,and US forces being withdrawal from Saudi Arabia . Osama wanted the US forces out his country.

    It is almost like Osama would have actually had a motive to do 9/11.

    • Replies: @nsa
  60. @Twodees Partain

    What did he lie about? He said rogue Saudi elements played a big part. Who can deny this considering so many of the involved were Saudis.

    He didn’t mention the Jews much, but that is another topic altogether.

    It’s likely the Saudis were the mice, and Israelis provided the maze. Jewish globalists nudge-nudged the radical Muslims into attacking the US. Cass Sunstein is a huge fan of nudgery.

    When we see a mouse in a maze, we focus on the mouse because it is active. But we generally don’t ask, WHO set up the maze in such and such manner.

    Muslims were the aggressive actors of 9/11, but the question is, “Were they steered that way by hidden forces?” That is where Jewish Power played a key albeit silent role.

    In a way, the reason why Charlottesville turned out the way it did was because Alt Right fellas were like mice being led into a maze set up by Jews. Given the structure of the maze, the outcome(or exit of the maze) could only be EVIL NAZIS TERRORIZE A CITY.

  61. JohnDD says:

    Rather weak article. Instead I recommend Christopher Bollyn’s
    Solving 9-11-The Deception That Changed The World, and his The War on Terror. Also, David Ray Griffin’s books.

    • Agree: Republic, Pat Kittle
  62. @Been_there_done_that

    No it was nano-thermite, not a nuclear weapon. Nano particles though, have tremendous power, far more so than non-nano particles. They can create hyperbaric explosions. And placed in the right spots they could take down the buildings with far fewer charges than it would normally take.

    There is no way to hide the radiation and tell-tale daughter products from a nuclear weapon. The people at Veterans Today just don’t seem to understand nuclear fission or fusion.

    Stephen Jones, nuclear physicist tested the dust and found no evidence of a nuclear reaction. What he and his colleague, Niels Harritt (a chemistry expert in nano particles) found in the dust was nano-thermite which they described as highly energetic when ignited.

    If the guys at Veterans Today think it was a nuclear weapon there is plenty of dust available to test and prove up the tell tale signs of a nuclear reaction. They have had a dozen years to do it and they won’t. Because they don’t want to prove themselves to be wrong or prove Jones and Harritt right.

    There is only one way to properly rebut science. Faithfully re-run the experiment and get a different result. Nobody has re-run the experiments of Jones and Harritt and come up with a different result.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  63. @Fool's Paradise

    Ron publishes articles written from many different points of view, even those with which he may strongly disagree.

    It’s not as though he’s giving a platform to Bill Kristol or Pam Geller.

  64. @Sean

    A little bed-time reading:

    https://www.amazon.com/Oswald-CIA-John-Newman/dp/0786701315

    and

    Oswald was recruited by the CIA in Japan and was sent to Russia (along with about a dozen other military “defectors”).

    He was also a patsy–had no clue what was about to happen to him.

    • Replies: @Sean
  65. nsa says:

    A few puffs of smoke like from a waste basket fire…….and then down goes WTC7. Anyone care to provide a rational explanation?

  66. nsa says:
    @Sean

    So a 6 1/2′ arab hiding out in a cave high (as in hookah pipe)in the hindu kush, connected to an artificial kidney machine amidst his large porn collection and multiple wives, somehow knocked down joo buildings on the other side of the planet. Prima facie bullshit….but that’s the JudenPresse story and they are sticking to it.

    • Replies: @Sean
  67. @Twodees Partain

    Many Jews knew nothing about Israel doing 9-11 beforehand — but they knowingly & willingly participate in the cover-up.

    “9-11 – ISRAEL DID IT”:

    — ( https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it )

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  68. @Pat Kittle

    That’s true, Pat. I’ve been reading on wikispooks off and on for the past few months when I have time. I’m of the mind that Israel did it, and that American traitors were involved as well. The gang of neocons that came into office with Cheney when Bush the Retarded infested the White House was the biggest collection of traitors to surround a president in my lifetime.

  69. @AnonStarter

    I know, and good for Ron Unz. I’ve read lots of opinions on this site, but this article was as confused and misleading as any that I remember.

  70. @davidgmillsatty

    No it was nano-thermite, not a nuclear weapon. Nano particles though, have tremendous power, far more so than non-nano particles.

    You obviously have not bothered to read carefully and view the presentations. It is not a binary (mutually exclusive either / or) issue. Physicist Heinz Pommer acknowledges that micro-thermite or nano-thermite was also used, but the point is that the effects of nano-thermite cannot account for numerous other observed phenomena. You have failed to contradict his arguments with plausible explanations.

  71. Sean says:
    @nsa

    Jamal Khashoggi had contemporaneously reported on his pal Osama slaughtering Russians in Afghanistan in the Eighties. It may have been exaggerated, but there is no question that Osama was not sitting in his walk-in basement getting high when he still had work to do. This would not be the habits of a highly effective person, which he was. Son of a dirt poor Yemeni labour that made himself the construction king of Saudi Arabia, Osama was trained civil engineer. A clever man, and a brave one who battled hard for his ideals. And he achieved what he set out to do: get a foreign army out his country.

    Osama bin Laden wanted the US army out of Saudi Arabia. Margolis and Fisk are clear about this and they met him. You are now going to try telling me that Fisk is a Mossad asset.

    Before 9/11 it was reported on the BBC that radical Muslim preachers in London were advocating hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings.

    • Replies: @nsa
  72. @AnonStarter

    Ron is as at least as honorable a defender of the 1st Amendment as anyone I know of.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  73. MarkU says:
    @anon

    Finding that some of the original suspects were in fact innocent doesn’t prove that the FBI was deliberately giving out a fake suspect list, as you are implying.

    I simply supplied a link demonstrating that at least one of the alleged hijackers was alive and well, how do you twist that into…

    the FBI was deliberately giving out a fake suspect list

    ????

    Perhaps you are a paranoid schizophrenic?

    • Replies: @Sean
  74. Sean says:
    @Justvisiting

    Oswald was recruited by the CIA in Japan and was sent to Russia (along with about a dozen other military “defectors”).

    He was also a patsy–had no clue what was about to happen to him.

    Mutually inconsistent. He could not have been sent to to Russia as a fake defector without receiving training and knowing he was doing something extremely risky. Can’t have it both ways. Oswald was paraded in front of pressmen (and a random British DJ John Peel who blagged his way in) and answered questions. He could have named names and given details of how he was a government agent working undercover , anything. Oswald was an ex Marine not a former member of the North Korean Reconnaissance Brigades willing to die. He would know he had to get his story out for his own safety, but he merely said he was innocent and asked for a lawyer. An innocent man would have talked his head off. So would a guilty one who you a conspiracy would try and keep him from talking. Oswald was a loner.

    Osama was a fugitive but at large and he was quite open. In 1997 Osama bin Laden declared jihad and complained about the American army being in Saudi Arabia which was the holiest place of a billion Muslims, and also said all American civilians must leave as he did not guarantee their safety

    Also

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  75. Sean says:
    @MarkU

    Osama’s son married the daughter of one of the 9/11 hijackers.

  76. paranoidgoy says: • Website
    @Fool's Paradise

    You folks actually read more than halfway through paragraph two? There are so many grown-up articles on UNZ, why waste time? Hee hee hee, airplanes crashing down skyscrapers, haw haw haw…

    • Agree: NoseytheDuke
  77. paranoidgoy says: • Website
    @Fool's Paradise

    You folks actually read more than halfway through paragraph two? There are so many grown-up articles on UNZ, why waste time? As for who benefitted? Start with who suddenly owned a Federal building, and those dancing Israeli’s were celebrating (and video-documenting) a job well done, not a terrorist attack. I bet you they were wally surprised when they heard of the airplane nonsense…

  78. nsa says:
    @Sean

    You joos should have some real fun and claim the Easter Bunny did it……repeated enough on JooTV and 90% of the cartoonish American public would buy into it. Later, Seal Team 6 could be dispatched to neutralize the arch fiend, the Easter Bunny, located in a Motel 6 outside of Karachi.

  79. @Sean

    Not the right thread to debate about Oswald here–just read the book written by the woman who actually knew him well (in my post).

    He was _not_ a loner–that was a CIA “legend”.

  80. Sean says:

    Someone who actually met Jeffrey Epstein in relation to secret intelligence, and also Osama bin Laden’s mentor about their plans for the future three decades ago is someone worth listening to, twice over.

    Within the complexities of Saudi Society lie bitterly anti-western groups … While covering the Afghan War in the 1980’s, I met Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, a fiery nationalist leader and anti-communist who was bin Laden’s teacher and spiritual mentor.
    “When we succeed in kicking the Russians out of Afghanistan,” Azzam told me, “we will go on and kick the Americans out of Saudi Arabia.” I was shocked, never having heard of Americans called ‘occupiers’. Azzam was murdered by a bomb soon after, but his words kept ringing in my ears. He though the Americans as much colonialists as the Soviets. [..] Fifteen of the 19 were Saudis.

    Jews control Saudi Arabia do they? The operational manager for 9/11 was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. He isn’t dead he’s bbeing held at Guantanamo awaiting conviction in a military court. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the uncle of Ramzi Yousef, who was convicted on terrorism charges for his part in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and Ammar Al Baluchi, who is accused of involvement in multiple terror plots. Osama bin Laden’s son in law ( seen beside calling for attacks Americans in videos) was been convicted of terrorismin an American criminal court. As already mentioned Osama’s own son married the daughter of Mohammed Atta, who was the line commander on 9/11 or in other words went on the suicide mission against the WTC. Atta had two sisters one a medical doctor and the other is a professor, he excelled at school. Not all of the 9/11 hijackers had advanced qualifications, some were just along as muscle, however several of them were clever educated men from affluent families. This is the same profile of elite youth that fits the original suicide pilots. Kamikaze strike against US task force.

    Dusk, that most beautiful moment
    With no pattern.
    Millions of images appear and disappear.
    Beloved people.
    How unbearable to die in the sky.

    Hours after writing these lines, the 24-year-old Tadao Hayashi fuelled a battered Mitsubishi A6M Zero and flew it towards an American aircraft carrier – and into nothingness. By day these student pilots were beaten – often unconscious – by superiors and non-student conscripts who resented their privilege. By night, they wrote: letters, diaries, poetry, struggling to imagine being here today and not tomorrow, …. Wasn’t Japan a nation under threat of extinction, hemmed in spiritually and strategically ..? Weren’t they obliged to defend their people and values against the nihilistic hyper-individualism …?

    Saudi society, if not the government, rejected the idea of the Custodians of the Two Holy places (the head of the Saud family dictatorship’s prefered title) allowing US forces to be in the country.

    During the 1979 Grand Mosque seizure, which by the way illustrates the discontent with the Saud family dictatorship that has long seethed below the surface and margolis refers to, the Prince leading the soldiers joked that Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden (Osama’s father) should be beheaded for how well he had built the religious complex, because the plan to blast their way in failed due to the walls being like a fortress’s. Osama father was better at constructing buildings that anyone could have expected and the son was astoundingly successful at taking them down.

    • Troll: Jonathan Revusky
  81. Sean says:

    There are three types of people – those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who wonder what happened. History is made by those who believe in their their country rather than conspiracy theories.

    https://aeon.co/essays/the-zen-ideas-that-propelled-japan-s-young-kamikaze-pilots
    Perhaps the nation was what made philosophy possible at all. Then talk of ‘the’ nation turned to talk of ‘our’ nation, its ultimate symbolisation in the emperor, and even the possible necessity of death in the service of both. ‘Our nation is the supreme archetype of existence,’

    Do your best. Every deity and the spirits of your dead comrades are watching you intently. It is essential that you do not shut your eyes for a moment so as not to miss the target. Many have crashed into the targets with wide-open eyes. They will tell you what fun they had.

    George W. Bush’s Mission Accomplished speech was on May 1, 2003. On April 29, 2003, Donald Rumsfeld had announced that he would be withdrawing US. troops from Saudi Arabia.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  82. @Sean

    On April 29, 2003, Donald Rumsfeld had announced that he would be withdrawing US. troops from Saudi Arabia.

    and–now they are back…

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/07/21/officials-us-putting-troops-back-in-saudi-arabia/

    So I guess that makes it 150 countries now:

    https://warisboring.com/u-s-special-operations-forces-deployed-to-149-countries-in-2017/

    That worked well… 😉

  83. Sean says:

    In August 1996 Osama Bin Laden’s 1996 “Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places” first appeared in a London-based Arabic newspaper. The Land of the Two Holy Places is of course Saudi Arabia. Interpreting the Prophet Muhammad as having outlawed “permanent presence of infidels in Arabia” in Islamic law,bin Laden described d the House of Saud as apostates.

    The 1998 bombings of United States embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya killed 224 people and injured over 4000. They were masterminded by Osama bin Laden from a three thousand miles away in Afghanistan. though his Al-Qaeda organisation that was against the US presence in Saudi Arabia. The Nairobi bomb was detonated by bin Laden’s chef explosives expert Hamden Khalif Allah Awad, who was well known as an instructor by those attending the Al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan. The bombings occurred on August 7, 1998, which was 8 years to the day of the arrival of American troops in Saudi Arabia.

    America attacked a factory in Sudan and the training camps Bin laden had just set up in Afghanistan. The only person killed in the training camp stikes was Saudi man from a prominent family. In December 1998 Bin Laden met with a well known Pakistani journalist,Rahimullah Yusufzai who wrote an article on published in the Guardian on 26 Sep 2001

    Face to face with Osama We talked for four hours, through the night, drinking tea. He carefully denied involvement in the US embassy bombings, but said he felt joy that they had happened, and I took that as an indirect admission. He said it was not his job to organise such attacks; it was his job to create awareness about the injustices done by the US to Muslims, to provoke and incite Muslims against America. And he was happy that his message seemed to be getting through. He would certainly say the same now about the attacks of September 11. But though he might want to contact the media, he cannot. That would infuriate the Taliban, and he needs them desperately.

    At that second meeting, we spoke about what he was fighting for, and what he hated. At first, he told me, he had been opposed to the Americans because of their military presence in Saudi Arabia and because he felt they were too near to Mecca.

    The 9/11 Commission report found “no evidence that the Saudi government as was in on the the attacks, but noted “the likelihood” that people in Saudi charities (religious Saudis )were helping the hijacker. The government of Saudi Arabia consented to the presence of American troops but the Saudi Arabian population were opposed to it.

    Lawyers for 9/11 survivors and victims families are going to get the name redacted from declassified documents , and it’s almost certainly a Saudi official who arranged for other saudi to assist the two 9/11 hijackers that lived in San Diego, where they took flying lessons.

    Neither those 9/11 hijackers, both Al Qaeda veterans spoke English or had been in America before and obviously the organisers of 9/11 would not have sent them to LA and then to San Diego without a support system.

    Private nationalist groups in Saudi who bitterly opposed foreign domination of their country could very well have financed and organized 9/11.

    I agree with Margolis. But, I think 9/11 was a symptom of the domestic opposition to the US occupation of Saudi Arabia , which made it untenable if the Saud family dictatorship client regieme was to remain in power. The problem was Saddam was over the border in Iraq , so he had to be removed first. And that is exactly what happened. On April 29, 2003 withdrawal of US. troops from Saudi Arabia was announced . Bush’s Mission Accomplished speech on the overthrow of Saddam was on May 1, 2003.

  84. @Pat Kittle

    Ron promotes open discussions on his site, but there are a couple of authors here who don’t. Though I really don’t give much credence to some of the writings of Eric Margolis, he at least allows comments critical of his articles in the comments section. Phil Giraldi is different. He blocks comments that are critical of his claims in his articles.

    That’s a red flag to me. If an author can’t allow any disagreement and can’t defend what he claims, then it logically follows that he’s making false statements. I really don’t understand the fascination with Giraldi’s writing. Some people here think he’s the final authority on everything.

    Personally, I don’t take any spook at his word, particularly one who consistently makes ridiculous claims in favor of his beloved CIA.

  85. Sean says:

    Mr Giraldi was gracious enough to reply to a comment I made critical of his views, and although I have continued to be highly critical I have not been banned. Giraldi seems perfectly sincere to me although I happen to disagree with many of his recommendations his analysis of the situation is perfectly rational. I think the individual Margolis has in mind is Prince Bandar In the book Plan of Attack Bob Woodward says President George W. Bush informed Saudi Arabia’s Ambassador in Washington Bandar bin Sultan Al Saud of the decision to invade Iraq ahead of Secretary of State Colin Powell. Steve had some interesting information about Bandar from a member of the State Department who (although Steve corrected himself as the Prince is not the son of a slave) said of a encounter with the young Bandar:-

    We met for several hours in his office and he told me that the Saudi military considered Iraq the biggest military threat in that bad neighborhood [the US Embassy was under the impression that the Shah of Iran was more dangerous than Saddam Hussein, so this was a surprise to me].

    As Ambassador to the US Bandar needed some help with the senate over the AWACs deal (this was soon after Israel flew across Saudi Arabia on the way to blow up Saddam’s nuclear plant). Bandar had the Saudis transfer 200 million from Chase Manhattan to JP Morgan, and David Rockefeller suddenly became very helpful. Reagan wanted the Contra’s funded. Bandar gave them 32 million through a Swiss bank. Woodward says that Bandar is also the one who gave the money the head of the CIA used to pay a British ex special forces officer to try and assassinate Sheik Fadlalla in Lebanon, a 1985 car bomb that killed 80 innocent people.

    Bandar’s motive for orchestrating or at least having his minion removing the obstacles to 9/11 would be forcing the US to remove its army from Saudi Arabia in order to protect Saudi family dictatorship from domestic supporters of bin Laden in power, which would entail oust Saddam (whose leadership of Iraq made the US army in Saudi Arabia necessary). The allegations is that a connection to Bandar is the individual whose name was redacted from the missing 28 pages finally released by Obama. A group of 9/11 survivors and families of the victim have just had that released to them.

    After Iraq, the main worry of Saidi strategists was neutralized, by 9/11 Iraq, Prince Bandar then considered Iran the main threat, and he took a very hard line in Washington in emphasizing the desirability of military action to halt Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program. Bandar did not lobby for sympathetic treatment of the Palestinians. His anti-Iranian focus and lack of interest in Palestinians made Bandar a very popular man in Washington. Then he was replaced by his brother in law Prince Turki Alfaisal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud son of the Kindom’s founder with Hissa, the cleverest of all his many wives. Prince Turki’s right hand man as head of Saudi Intelligence was Jamal Khashoggi, and both knew just how little of what Khashoggi the spy/journalist had reported from Afghanistan about his friend Osama bin Laden the Mujahedin leader was true. The Saudis started to take him seriously after the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing, and Prince Turki secured an agreement from the Taliban to hand over bin Laden but they went back on it after Clinton’s bombing of his Afghan training camps.

    As Saudi Arabia’s Washington Ambassador Prince Turki had his contribution to a 9/11 charity rejected when he stupidity mentioned the Israel Palestine issue that he kept trying to raise and he was soft on Iran. As a result he had trouble seeing the President was undermined by Bandar with his tough policies. I don’t think the Saudi secret service and Prince Turki were anything to do with 9/11, but the 9/11 Comission said “the likelihood” was that Saudi government-sponsored charities were involved. This would be through Bandar and his people in religious affairs section of the Consulate. The FBI found that Bandar’s wife had wrote checks for people who helped the San Diego 9/11 hijackers.

    Robert Mueller helped Saudi Arabia cover up its role in 9/11 attacks: suit FBI Agent Stephen Moore … “diplomatic and intelligence personnel of Saudi Arabia knowingly provided material support to the two hijackers and facilitated the 9/11 plot.” … FBI Agent John Guandolo, … said then-Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar “should have been treated as a terrorist suspect” for giving money to a woman who funded two of the 9/11 hijackers. But he was never questioned either, Guandolo said

  86. @Republic

    According to a recent article by Paul Craig Roberts, no publication in the US covered this story.

    That would be the same Paul Craig Roberts who tries to sell his Georgia Tech degree in Industrial Management, which is more concerned with process, economics, data and statistical analysis and very little structural or mechanical engineering, as qualifying him to pass judgment on structural or mechanical Engineering matters.

  87. Sean says:

    Faking an impossible event would seem more of a practical joke than a false flag,

  88. Eric Margolis does not exist. He’s a figment of the imagination of an intern at the Mossad’s Langley, VA Campus!

  89. Eric Margolis–> NWO Shill
    Israel was in on it.
    U.S. airspace was ceded that day therefore High Level Americans (PNAC) including the cast of clowns known as Israel Firsters (you know the Dual Passport type-chicken hawks who love war as long as America pays and Israel benefits)
    Go back to Journalism School Margolis: [email protected] hack!

  90. Mossad’s execution of 9-11 should have been a wake up call.
    You guys subscribed to the phony WMD and coyote planes dissapearing into the babylonian twin towers whilst your intuition should have kicked in and told you something is not right.
    9-11 should have been the litmus test for truth but you conveniently ignored it. You looked the other way due to cognitive dissonance.
    You followed Bush’s order to go on a spending spree with more credit card debt jacked up with high interest to feed the satanic cabal instead.
    With all these bogus wars on terror and non-ending hoaxes you have unwittingly supported the Zionist Satanic push for one world disorder.
    At this point, all you can do is repent for your sins and start fighting back the criminal enterprize who are in charge of orchestrating all these bogus war on terror, creating these monstrous, diabolical, sinister ISISraHELL with the help of al-CIA-da and MOSSAD.
    Alternate would be to sit back and enjoy bigger fireworks than 9-11 coming near you whilst they prepare greater IzraHELL for the coming of their Yahweh, The Anti-Christ dajjal who will globalize his reign of terror from Jerusalem.
    Either way buckle up for a roller coaster ride with some of these demonic, totally psychopathic, diabolical, sinister, pathological liars and corrupters of mother earth. You reap what you sow.

    There is a lie. Then there is a BIG LIE. Then there is 911. Santa Claus is beyond a LIE. Tel LIE vised 911 EvangeLIED are being taken for a ride by way of Deception to think Jesus Christ died for their Evils. Everyone shall have to account for deeds, either good or evil to enter Paradise or eternal abode in Hell fire.

    The infuriating thing about 9/11 and the multitude of lesser false flags which both preceded and followed it is that, although most Americans know it was as phoney as a three and a half dollar fed reserve note, everyone seems content to put up with the extremely phoney “war on terror” it was designed to create and which has already destroyed a hand full of countries in the world, caused the murder of upwards of two million people, mostly using U.S. military, and turned the U.S. into a ruthlessly insane police state wherein everyone is made to obey patently unlawful statutes in the name of “emergency” while the ruling elite has quit obeying any laws at all while gathering a massive military presence to cow the now restless and resentful public. – See more at:Christopher Bollyn: The Man Who Solved 9/11

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  91. Truth3 says:
    @Priss Factor

    You’re an asshole provacateur that knows absolutely NOTHING about physics.

    Without the columns being cut, any falling mass loses it’s potential energy at an equal rate to the destruction below.

    If the top 20 floors suddenly had the floor below it completely removed, the resistance energy of the floors below being deformed would completely absorb the energy until none was left… after only a short portion was crushed.

    Get the fuck off Unz, you hasbarite foreskinner.

  92. @Santa Claus

    most Americans know it was as phoney as a three and a half dollar fed reserve note

    Talk to Americans–ask them.

    Most are relatively clueless–they are _not_ policy wonks.

    The default position is given them by 24/7 media propaganda.

    I would guess the percentage who are _certain_ 9/11 was a fraud is under 10%, and the majority of them are trying to keep their little secret so they won’t get fired from their job or ousted from their social group.

  93. @Priss Factor

    If you work in a building with steel I-beams, try to drill a one inch hole in one of them. Then come back and tell us how vertical steel beams fell downwards.

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