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Donald Trump’s startling and explosive victory has not only shaken America’s oligarchy to its core, it’s also sending shock waves across Europe and scaring the top hats off plutocrats and their tame politicians.

The great Mark Twain wrote early in the 20th century: ‘if you don’t read newspapers you are uninformed. But if you do read them, you are misinformed.’ Amen.

As with the 2003 war against Iraq, the US media totally dropped its mask of phony impartiality and became a cheerleader for the Clintons and their financial backers.
Media was clearly revealed as a propaganda organ for the ruling elite. No wonder its disgusted clients are decamping to online sources or just ignoring the biased media.

Amazingly, working class men and women rose up and overthrew the oligarchy, led by the corporate media and the self-enriching, war-promoting Clinton dynasty and its Davos friends. There was plenty of anguish among leftist groups and weepy young women, but America breathed a gigantic sigh of relief.

So did the stock market. So did ordinary white Americans royally fed up with the elite’s promotion of ‘diversity,’ which they believe is a euphemism for mixing races, pushing junk popular culture, and advocating homosexuality, lesbianism, and bisexuality.

Across the Atlantic, political nerves were just as tense. Three major votes will be held in the coming 10 months in France, Germany and Italy, Europe’s economic, political and cultural core. The old order is scared to death by Trump’s crashing victory.

France holds a presidential primary in a month in which sitting president, François Hollande, is expected to be thrashed. Hollande’s public support now is struggling to reach 4%.

Former prime minister Nicholas Sarkozy has risen from the political dead and is preaching a farrago of populism, nationalism and Islamophobia. Many French don’t trust or like Sarko. He may shortly face charges for accepting illegal campaign money from Libya’s late Mummar Khadffi, in whose murder Sarko may be deeply implicated. Dead Libyans tell no tales.

Sarko’s rivals are former foreign minister Alain Juppé, a moderate conservative and ally of the ailing former president Jacques Chirac, who remains France’s most liked politician. Juppé, dignified, sensible, and moderate, is just what France needs after the disastrous socialist president François Hollande.

But adding a wild card to the primary is the youthful ex-banker and rightwing socialist Emmanuel Macron, a former economy minister under Hollande. He used to work for the French Rothschilds, arousing suspicions on the left and far right. Macron is expected to shortly announce his candidacy for president.

Add in former prime minister François Fillon, a solid moderate with a reputation for strong ethics who may be able to stand up to France’s thuggish unions. Fillon, Juppé and Macron are all considered leftwing conservatives who can restore France’s staggering economy and fight the bureaucracy, teachers and, of course, the unions who can quickly shut down all key sectors of France’s economy.

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Lurking in the background is the nemesis of France’s current political system, Madame Marine LePen, leader of the hard right National Front. Anti-EU, anti-globalization, and anti-Muslim, she is a modern day version of France’s WWII Vichy Catholic far right. Le Pen, like her aged father Jean-Marie, is very popular and can articulate, like Trump, the anger and dismay of working whites.

She may knock the hapless Hollande out in the first round of voting in 2017. But Le Pen would then have to go on to defeat the moderate candidate – Sarkozy, Fillon, Macron or Juppé. This will be very tough because, as in previous elections, leftist and centrist voters will gang up to defeat her.

Such is conventional logic. But after Trump nothing is certain. Good! Our stagnant western economies and corrupt political systems badly need shaking up and refreshing. I say, ‘vive Monsieur Trump.’

On Dec 4, Italy holds a very important referendum to modernize its rickety political structure. If voters reject it, Italy’s young, reformist prime minister, Matteo Renzi, has vowed to resign. This would likely plunge Italy into political confusion and encourage a looming banking crisis.

Finally, in Germany, Angela Merkel’s coalition government looks increasingly fragile. Many Germans are tired of the ultra-moderate Merkel and her cautious government which is often accused of being an American vassal. If Germany ever wakens from its post-1945 stupor, all Europe will shake.

So enter Donald Trump just at a time when Europe may be coming to a boil.

(Republished from EricMargolis.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Contemporary Europeans are the most imbecilic, idiotic, spineless, name it, people in history.

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  2. Alain Juppé as what France needs? You’ve got to be kidding! None of the Socialist or “Republicain” candidates in the French elections intend to do anything about the invasion of France by Arabs and sub-Saharan Africans. Only the National Front promises to restrict this invasion. Unfortunately, the French political system will probably keep the FN from achieving electoral success in any proportion to its popular appeal. Here’s hoping that the Trump victory will give the French people the gumption to put Marine Le Pen in the Elysée.

    I have similar hopes for Alternatif fur Deutschland in Germany. Here’s hoping the German people tell the U.S. to kindly withdraw its troops, and quit ordering the Germans around.

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  3. Diogenes says:

    “Amazingly, working class men and women rose up and overthrew the oligarchy…”
    Not so fast Eric, we don’t know what Trump will usher into the power vacuum. The early signs are NOT propitious, a big clue was who he chose as vice president, an ultra conservative “who models himself on Dick Cheney”. Let’s not forget the populist backlash elected a capitalist plutocrat, he belongs to the 1% class, why would he turn traitor to his class and their interests and become a “progressive” devoting himself to the improvement of white middle America? What’s in it for him-adulation of “fly over America”? More than half of America are appalled with the prospect of what Trump is likely to do to the country, and rightly so. They expect an ultraconservative , probably Neocon, authoritarian government where everybody will be worse off, including those that voted for him.
    The establishment have been cowed because they worry about his policies as well but I expect them to BUY Trump’s cooperation to keep the status quo or even bring a greater advantage to them.
    We are already seeing it as those that denounced him before the election are now singing his praises in order to curry favor.
    Perhaps a paradigm shift has occurred but it could be worse than the previous one!

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    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    Trump never belonged to "his class". He and the old man are from Queens, not Manhattan, and Donald's scorn and barely-contained hostility for "his class" is readily apparent in his speech to the Manhattan-elite guests at the Alfred E. Newman benefit at the Waldorf Astoria, held the day after the third debate, in Oct. Also notable is that the other attendee was Hillary Clinton, who suffered through another round of embarrassing invective from Donald the day after her outing as a narcissistic enabler of a pervert and sex maniac and who couldn't help but keep her cybernetic smile on throughout the thrashing. Watch the video. It's all anyone needs to know about Donald Trump.
  4. Marine Le Pen = Marshall Petain? Ludicrous. Petain was a pathetic quisling for a defeated nation. Le Pen represents the rebirth of the French nation. Vive la révolution!

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  5. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    From New York Times letter to readers:

    We believe we reported on both candidates fairly during the presidential campaign. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

    From a column in today’s NYT:

    As I’ve argued for most of this year, I think we in the mainstream media — especially cable television — sometimes bungled coverage of Trump. There was too much uncritical television coverage of Trump because he was good for ratings; then there was not enough investigation of his business dealings, racism and history of sexual assaults, and too much false equivalency that equated the two candidates as equally flawed.

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    • Replies: @Alfred1860
    Yep, that was it, they weren't critical enough of Trump. I wish I had some idea as to whether or not the author of that piece wrote it with a proverbial gun to the head, or if being that delusional is even possible.

    I've had a few e-mail convos this week with a long time friend, with whom I usually agree about pretty much everything. We have the same background, same basic values, etc., but for the life of him he cannot move past Trump's "racism" and "xenophobia" and "misogyny". Any attempts of mine to point out Hillary's real crimes and evinced prejudices against anyone but her corporate handlers are met with crickets. Truly frustrating.
  6. Europe is in full-TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) mode. It’s almost as if they actually believe he can unilaterally unwind everything the oligarchs have put in place over the last half-century.

    As for AfD, they would be well advised to expand their repertoire to include a few more themes. The “Get US troops out of Germany” theme mentioned in comment #2 is quaint but pointless.

    On the other hand, AfD could make great book out of the recent hits to VW and Deutsche Bank by the US, which while perhaps justified, nevertheless strike the average German as nothing more than economic warfare, which is currently not being addressed by Frau Merkel’s government.

    Then there is that perennial subsidisation of Greece thingy … If it really looks like the EU is toast, this is a great one to latch onto, since it distracts from the fact that Germany has actually benefited significantly from using the weakness in the Eurozone to keep an FX advantage aligned to its best interests.

    One might curiously note that Greece spends something like 2.6% of its GDP on the military (the equipment of which is sourced to a significant degree from Germany), while Germany only spends something on the order of 1.2% of its GDP on its military. This is another reason why AfD might be reluctant to take a shot at Greece, or the US for that matter, but hey, if they really want to win ….

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  7. Germany, the most neurotic, brainwashed area of this lunatic planet, is now, due t0 the election results, loosing the remnants of it’s collective mind.

    “Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen”

    Germans , being the megalomaniacal know-it-all leftist fools that they are , feel that their own viewpoints should apply to all of mankind.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz member.

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    The Allies have themselves to blame for that with their reeducation of occupied Germany, including inviting Frankfurt School profs back to the country.

    loosing the remnants of it’s collective mind.
     
    MENSA level writing there
    , @jacques sheete

    Germany, the most neurotic, brainwashed area of this lunatic planet, is now, due t0 the election results, loosing the remnants of it’s collective mind.

    “Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen”

    Germans , being the megalomaniacal know-it-all leftist fools that they are , feel that their own viewpoints should apply to all of mankind.
     
    Yeah, well, "Wenns Arscherl brummt ist Herz'l gesund."

    Some Menstruals must therefore have pretty stout hearts! Toot toot!
  8. Germany has never been a US Vassal. Germany has often gone its own way, stiffing US interests, as well as its own security interests. Germany, however, has been a parasite on us militarily and has allowed its military to atrophy to the point that it couldn’t meet its NATO commitments.

    Germany can’t go its own way completely, no matter how much some people might hang onto myths about the German-US relationship. The US market is far too important to Germany.

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  9. @Anonymous
    From New York Times letter to readers:

    We believe we reported on both candidates fairly during the presidential campaign. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

    From a column in today's NYT:

    As I’ve argued for most of this year, I think we in the mainstream media — especially cable television — sometimes bungled coverage of Trump. There was too much uncritical television coverage of Trump because he was good for ratings; then there was not enough investigation of his business dealings, racism and history of sexual assaults, and too much false equivalency that equated the two candidates as equally flawed.

    Yep, that was it, they weren’t critical enough of Trump. I wish I had some idea as to whether or not the author of that piece wrote it with a proverbial gun to the head, or if being that delusional is even possible.

    I’ve had a few e-mail convos this week with a long time friend, with whom I usually agree about pretty much everything. We have the same background, same basic values, etc., but for the life of him he cannot move past Trump’s “racism” and “xenophobia” and “misogyny”. Any attempts of mine to point out Hillary’s real crimes and evinced prejudices against anyone but her corporate handlers are met with crickets. Truly frustrating.

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    • Replies: @Seneca
    I've had the same problem with several leftist friends, but I stumbled on a solution by accident that seems to work.

    This method does not work a miracle, but they start becoming more moderate in their thinking(okay they don't become alt right but baby steps right?)

    Call them a "heartless bastard."

    I started calling them this. For example,

    "God, you are a heartless bastard. You are the most heartless bastard I ever met. You care nothing about the weakest most defenseless members of society ....the working poor and lower middle class. You would rather enrich the 1% on the back of scab labor than help these poor people earn a dignified wage. Shame on you. Don't you have any loyalty to your fellow citizens?"

    Don't let up. Repeat don't let up. Hammer them over and with the words "heartless bastard."

    It creates cognitive dissonance which has them begging you to stop calling them that name.

    It's almost comical to watch them begin to squirm and begin to have a melt down.

    My friends are the type of left wingers who only understand "compassion." They are former or fallen Christians who have overlooked many of the lessons of the Bible and just focus on the compassion element which they internalized.

    Note, this strategy may not work on those leftist who are motivated by other reasons like hatred of White people for instance (which motivates some minority Leftists including even a few Jewish ones who should know better).

    So many on the Left, especially those who are White and either Christian or former Christian, hate being thought of as heartless bastards. It will shut them up, at least temporarily, while they try to orientate themselves to this new way of viewing their own actions (which they don't realize has so many terrible consequences for other members of society).

    My hope is that they come to their senses, and eventually make their way to the Alt Right and web sites like Unz.com and writers like Steve Sailer.

    Call me a Dreamer ...LOL

    Please pass this strategy on.

    Peace.
  10. Marcus says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    Germany, the most neurotic, brainwashed area of this lunatic planet, is now, due t0 the election results, loosing the remnants of it's collective mind.

    "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen"

    Germans , being the megalomaniacal know-it-all leftist fools that they are , feel that their own viewpoints should apply to all of mankind.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz member.

    The Allies have themselves to blame for that with their reeducation of occupied Germany, including inviting Frankfurt School profs back to the country.

    loosing the remnants of it’s collective mind.

    MENSA level writing there

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    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Alfred1860
    I think he meant loosing (as in unleashing) not losing. That said, I don't know who he thinks he's appealing to by adding the MENSA blurb after every post. By the time I was 15 I'd learned that nobody gives a shit about how smart you are.
    , @anonymous
    What do you expect from a guy who believes that a cat walking on a keyboard is music?
  11. Marcus says:

    Only a fool would call Le Pen “far right,” she’s completely abandoned the platform of her father in favor of “civic nationalism” a la Wilders.

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  12. Svigor says:

    Amazingly, working class men and women rose up and overthrew the oligarchy

    Last I heard, the middle class voted for Trump, too.

    But after Trump nothing is certain. Good!

    I would not be surprised to see The Trumpening embolden the right in Europe, and lead them to new highs in the polls.

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  13. @Marcus
    The Allies have themselves to blame for that with their reeducation of occupied Germany, including inviting Frankfurt School profs back to the country.

    loosing the remnants of it’s collective mind.
     
    MENSA level writing there

    I think he meant loosing (as in unleashing) not losing. That said, I don’t know who he thinks he’s appealing to by adding the MENSA blurb after every post. By the time I was 15 I’d learned that nobody gives a shit about how smart you are.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    "I don't know who he thinks he's appealing to by adding the MENSA blurb after every post".

    I am not trying to "Appeal" to anybody, rather I am trying to irritate and piss as many people off as possible.

    Authenticjazzman, " Mensa" society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz artist.
  14. @Alfred1860
    I think he meant loosing (as in unleashing) not losing. That said, I don't know who he thinks he's appealing to by adding the MENSA blurb after every post. By the time I was 15 I'd learned that nobody gives a shit about how smart you are.

    “I don’t know who he thinks he’s appealing to by adding the MENSA blurb after every post”.

    I am not trying to “Appeal” to anybody, rather I am trying to irritate and piss as many people off as possible.

    Authenticjazzman, ” Mensa” society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz artist.

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  15. Fredrik says:

    Le Pen will do nothing for the French economy. In fact I’m sure she’ll make it worse. On the other hand none of the other candidates are truly interested in fixing any of the many problems the French have. The core problem is the attitude of the French(and many others) where they expect the government to feed them.

    I’m also highly sceptical of what Le Pen really wants with regards to immigration. I’m afraid that she, just like the Brexiteers, have a special place in their hearts for the black and brown from their former colonies.

    I’m happy to be proven wrong.

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  16. Seneca says:
    @Alfred1860
    Yep, that was it, they weren't critical enough of Trump. I wish I had some idea as to whether or not the author of that piece wrote it with a proverbial gun to the head, or if being that delusional is even possible.

    I've had a few e-mail convos this week with a long time friend, with whom I usually agree about pretty much everything. We have the same background, same basic values, etc., but for the life of him he cannot move past Trump's "racism" and "xenophobia" and "misogyny". Any attempts of mine to point out Hillary's real crimes and evinced prejudices against anyone but her corporate handlers are met with crickets. Truly frustrating.

    I’ve had the same problem with several leftist friends, but I stumbled on a solution by accident that seems to work.

    This method does not work a miracle, but they start becoming more moderate in their thinking(okay they don’t become alt right but baby steps right?)

    Call them a “heartless bastard.”

    I started calling them this. For example,

    “God, you are a heartless bastard. You are the most heartless bastard I ever met. You care nothing about the weakest most defenseless members of society ….the working poor and lower middle class. You would rather enrich the 1% on the back of scab labor than help these poor people earn a dignified wage. Shame on you. Don’t you have any loyalty to your fellow citizens?”

    Don’t let up. Repeat don’t let up. Hammer them over and with the words “heartless bastard.”

    It creates cognitive dissonance which has them begging you to stop calling them that name.

    It’s almost comical to watch them begin to squirm and begin to have a melt down.

    My friends are the type of left wingers who only understand “compassion.” They are former or fallen Christians who have overlooked many of the lessons of the Bible and just focus on the compassion element which they internalized.

    Note, this strategy may not work on those leftist who are motivated by other reasons like hatred of White people for instance (which motivates some minority Leftists including even a few Jewish ones who should know better).

    So many on the Left, especially those who are White and either Christian or former Christian, hate being thought of as heartless bastards. It will shut them up, at least temporarily, while they try to orientate themselves to this new way of viewing their own actions (which they don’t realize has so many terrible consequences for other members of society).

    My hope is that they come to their senses, and eventually make their way to the Alt Right and web sites like Unz.com and writers like Steve Sailer.

    Call me a Dreamer …LOL

    Please pass this strategy on.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    With women, I've had some some success with a variation of your strategy: accusing them of betraying their children/grandchildren. Point out how they are selling out/giving away/betraying some element of what their children/grandchildren would have gotten had this woman not [insert foolish leftist policy here]. For extra audacity do it in the presence of said children/grandchildren. It is harsh, but for hard cases, it is the only thing I've seen get the wheels of thought actually start to turn: pitting the womb against the feminist programming. It is best done in a tone more in sorrow than in anger. As in, [shaking my head] "it's so sad that you've succumbed to the social pressure to sacrifice your own children so (the 1% may have cheap maid service / the Democrats can have dependent voters / etc.)". Watch the sudden embrace of alt-right-ness.

    Doesn't work on the childless, obviously.

    , @Authenticjazzman
    I have been saying this for years : Hit them with their own medicine, as they themselves are in fact racists, and homophobes and misogynists, which I have, without going into detail experienced over and over for decades on end.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member since 1973, and pro jazz artsit.
  17. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Marcus
    The Allies have themselves to blame for that with their reeducation of occupied Germany, including inviting Frankfurt School profs back to the country.

    loosing the remnants of it’s collective mind.
     
    MENSA level writing there

    What do you expect from a guy who believes that a cat walking on a keyboard is music?

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    • Replies: @Alden
    I don't like jazz either. It always reminds me of pretentious pseudo intellectuals who only like what is supposed to be stylish among the elite.

    One way to argue with Trump haters is to ask them to give one instance of a racist misogynist anti gay, anti semite, anti black brown etc thing he did or said. They will not be able to.

    Also explain to them that phobia does not mean hate or dislike. It is a medical term for a totally unreasonable, disabling fear that has no basis in reality. An example would be never going anywhere you cannot walk because you fear driving, taking a bus, subway taxi or any other kind of transport. Explain that a misogynist is a man who doesn't like women. With three marriages, he obviously likes women. For a long time it was a euphemism for gay man because they did not like to have sex or romantic relationships with women..

    But I just don't talk about it all. When people weep and wail about the election I smirk. Then they ask me why I could do such a thing. I just reply that I have read newspapers all my life and I have found that virtually every word written in newspapers is false. Since the truth is always the opposite of what the newspapers write, it is easy to know the truth.
  18. Jason Liu says:

    France needs Le Pen, not Juppe.

    Although it is kinda refreshing to see a Jew plug for nationalism, assuming he means it.

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  19. As much as the Trump win may embolden new European nationalist parties, they have a helluva hill to climb. The alt-right, or Unz-like media channels barely exist on the continent partly due to state censorship. Moreover, there is not anything like the residual manly mans frontiersman subculture in Europe that exists in flyover states. How many hunters, fishermen or gun owners are there in France or Holland? Precious few I bet. The Euro nanny state culture of free goodies from birth to death does not do much to instill self reliance or ambition. Sure, there is a lot of rowdy beer-assisted bravado for the local football team every Saturday, but that is a far cry from taking a stand against an establishment that can have you fined or shunned for dissent. USA = Europe in 1960 for civil liberties. Euro nationalists are way out in uncharted territory, probably past the point of no return. And a large hostile Muslim population is already inside the gates. In any event, Best of Luck. Never give up!

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    • Replies: @Alden
    France is one of the countries with the biggest hunting culture in the world. It probably has a bigger percentage of hunters than America. Did you know they still have stag hunts on horseback with French horns and hounds and uniforms? There is also boar hunting in the mountains. Those are specialized hunts. But there are a bigger percentage of average guys with a rifle who hunt than there is in America.

    It's partly socialism and long vacations and many holidays that allows them the time to hunt. But its pretty much the France Profund ancient French rural culture. It's also because of a higher rate of second homes in rural areas than in America.

    Thinking of hunting did you read about the 36 point buck shot in Minnesota and wonder of wonders the 47 pt in Tennessee? The article said the 47 pt was a Whitetail but he looked bigger than any Whitetail I've ever seen, almost as big as a mule.
  20. @Seneca
    I've had the same problem with several leftist friends, but I stumbled on a solution by accident that seems to work.

    This method does not work a miracle, but they start becoming more moderate in their thinking(okay they don't become alt right but baby steps right?)

    Call them a "heartless bastard."

    I started calling them this. For example,

    "God, you are a heartless bastard. You are the most heartless bastard I ever met. You care nothing about the weakest most defenseless members of society ....the working poor and lower middle class. You would rather enrich the 1% on the back of scab labor than help these poor people earn a dignified wage. Shame on you. Don't you have any loyalty to your fellow citizens?"

    Don't let up. Repeat don't let up. Hammer them over and with the words "heartless bastard."

    It creates cognitive dissonance which has them begging you to stop calling them that name.

    It's almost comical to watch them begin to squirm and begin to have a melt down.

    My friends are the type of left wingers who only understand "compassion." They are former or fallen Christians who have overlooked many of the lessons of the Bible and just focus on the compassion element which they internalized.

    Note, this strategy may not work on those leftist who are motivated by other reasons like hatred of White people for instance (which motivates some minority Leftists including even a few Jewish ones who should know better).

    So many on the Left, especially those who are White and either Christian or former Christian, hate being thought of as heartless bastards. It will shut them up, at least temporarily, while they try to orientate themselves to this new way of viewing their own actions (which they don't realize has so many terrible consequences for other members of society).

    My hope is that they come to their senses, and eventually make their way to the Alt Right and web sites like Unz.com and writers like Steve Sailer.

    Call me a Dreamer ...LOL

    Please pass this strategy on.

    Peace.

    With women, I’ve had some some success with a variation of your strategy: accusing them of betraying their children/grandchildren. Point out how they are selling out/giving away/betraying some element of what their children/grandchildren would have gotten had this woman not [insert foolish leftist policy here]. For extra audacity do it in the presence of said children/grandchildren. It is harsh, but for hard cases, it is the only thing I’ve seen get the wheels of thought actually start to turn: pitting the womb against the feminist programming. It is best done in a tone more in sorrow than in anger. As in, [shaking my head] “it’s so sad that you’ve succumbed to the social pressure to sacrifice your own children so (the 1% may have cheap maid service / the Democrats can have dependent voters / etc.)”. Watch the sudden embrace of alt-right-ness.

    Doesn’t work on the childless, obviously.

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  21. @Diogenes
    "Amazingly, working class men and women rose up and overthrew the oligarchy..."
    Not so fast Eric, we don't know what Trump will usher into the power vacuum. The early signs are NOT propitious, a big clue was who he chose as vice president, an ultra conservative "who models himself on Dick Cheney". Let's not forget the populist backlash elected a capitalist plutocrat, he belongs to the 1% class, why would he turn traitor to his class and their interests and become a "progressive" devoting himself to the improvement of white middle America? What's in it for him-adulation of "fly over America"? More than half of America are appalled with the prospect of what Trump is likely to do to the country, and rightly so. They expect an ultraconservative , probably Neocon, authoritarian government where everybody will be worse off, including those that voted for him.
    The establishment have been cowed because they worry about his policies as well but I expect them to BUY Trump's cooperation to keep the status quo or even bring a greater advantage to them.
    We are already seeing it as those that denounced him before the election are now singing his praises in order to curry favor.
    Perhaps a paradigm shift has occurred but it could be worse than the previous one!

    Trump never belonged to “his class”. He and the old man are from Queens, not Manhattan, and Donald’s scorn and barely-contained hostility for “his class” is readily apparent in his speech to the Manhattan-elite guests at the Alfred E. Newman benefit at the Waldorf Astoria, held the day after the third debate, in Oct. Also notable is that the other attendee was Hillary Clinton, who suffered through another round of embarrassing invective from Donald the day after her outing as a narcissistic enabler of a pervert and sex maniac and who couldn’t help but keep her cybernetic smile on throughout the thrashing. Watch the video. It’s all anyone needs to know about Donald Trump.

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  22. @Seneca
    I've had the same problem with several leftist friends, but I stumbled on a solution by accident that seems to work.

    This method does not work a miracle, but they start becoming more moderate in their thinking(okay they don't become alt right but baby steps right?)

    Call them a "heartless bastard."

    I started calling them this. For example,

    "God, you are a heartless bastard. You are the most heartless bastard I ever met. You care nothing about the weakest most defenseless members of society ....the working poor and lower middle class. You would rather enrich the 1% on the back of scab labor than help these poor people earn a dignified wage. Shame on you. Don't you have any loyalty to your fellow citizens?"

    Don't let up. Repeat don't let up. Hammer them over and with the words "heartless bastard."

    It creates cognitive dissonance which has them begging you to stop calling them that name.

    It's almost comical to watch them begin to squirm and begin to have a melt down.

    My friends are the type of left wingers who only understand "compassion." They are former or fallen Christians who have overlooked many of the lessons of the Bible and just focus on the compassion element which they internalized.

    Note, this strategy may not work on those leftist who are motivated by other reasons like hatred of White people for instance (which motivates some minority Leftists including even a few Jewish ones who should know better).

    So many on the Left, especially those who are White and either Christian or former Christian, hate being thought of as heartless bastards. It will shut them up, at least temporarily, while they try to orientate themselves to this new way of viewing their own actions (which they don't realize has so many terrible consequences for other members of society).

    My hope is that they come to their senses, and eventually make their way to the Alt Right and web sites like Unz.com and writers like Steve Sailer.

    Call me a Dreamer ...LOL

    Please pass this strategy on.

    Peace.

    I have been saying this for years : Hit them with their own medicine, as they themselves are in fact racists, and homophobes and misogynists, which I have, without going into detail experienced over and over for decades on end.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member since 1973, and pro jazz artsit.

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  23. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Even though some posters here have zero actual knowledge about the situation in Germany or what the actual polticial platform of the AfD consists of, they obviously get a lot of stress relief from venting anti-German resentment. (Including a reheating of the stale lopsided narratives from the 2014 Euro crisis.)
    The elections must have given them a bad headache.

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  24. “the ultra-moderate Merkel”

    What?

    She may have been moderate before she went insane, but her actions since spring 2015 have been anything but moderate. Her decisions will still be haunting Germany at the end of this century – if Germany still exists then.

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  25. @Authenticjazzman
    Germany, the most neurotic, brainwashed area of this lunatic planet, is now, due t0 the election results, loosing the remnants of it's collective mind.

    "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen"

    Germans , being the megalomaniacal know-it-all leftist fools that they are , feel that their own viewpoints should apply to all of mankind.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz member.

    Germany, the most neurotic, brainwashed area of this lunatic planet, is now, due t0 the election results, loosing the remnants of it’s collective mind.

    “Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen”

    Germans , being the megalomaniacal know-it-all leftist fools that they are , feel that their own viewpoints should apply to all of mankind.

    Yeah, well, “Wenns Arscherl brummt ist Herz’l gesund.”

    Some Menstruals must therefore have pretty stout hearts! Toot toot!

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  26. […] U.S. Elections Shockwaves Hit Europe […]

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  27. Alden says:
    @anonymous
    What do you expect from a guy who believes that a cat walking on a keyboard is music?

    I don’t like jazz either. It always reminds me of pretentious pseudo intellectuals who only like what is supposed to be stylish among the elite.

    One way to argue with Trump haters is to ask them to give one instance of a racist misogynist anti gay, anti semite, anti black brown etc thing he did or said. They will not be able to.

    Also explain to them that phobia does not mean hate or dislike. It is a medical term for a totally unreasonable, disabling fear that has no basis in reality. An example would be never going anywhere you cannot walk because you fear driving, taking a bus, subway taxi or any other kind of transport. Explain that a misogynist is a man who doesn’t like women. With three marriages, he obviously likes women. For a long time it was a euphemism for gay man because they did not like to have sex or romantic relationships with women..

    But I just don’t talk about it all. When people weep and wail about the election I smirk. Then they ask me why I could do such a thing. I just reply that I have read newspapers all my life and I have found that virtually every word written in newspapers is false. Since the truth is always the opposite of what the newspapers write, it is easy to know the truth.

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    "I don't like jazz either".

    Simply because you are not endowed with the mental capacity to understand it.

    In Italy, the most musical country on earth, jazz is revered, loved and respected.


    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member, and pro jazz artist.

    P I love country music, and can sing in the country idiom.
  28. Alden says:
    @CrunchybutRealistCon
    As much as the Trump win may embolden new European nationalist parties, they have a helluva hill to climb. The alt-right, or Unz-like media channels barely exist on the continent partly due to state censorship. Moreover, there is not anything like the residual manly mans frontiersman subculture in Europe that exists in flyover states. How many hunters, fishermen or gun owners are there in France or Holland? Precious few I bet. The Euro nanny state culture of free goodies from birth to death does not do much to instill self reliance or ambition. Sure, there is a lot of rowdy beer-assisted bravado for the local football team every Saturday, but that is a far cry from taking a stand against an establishment that can have you fined or shunned for dissent. USA = Europe in 1960 for civil liberties. Euro nationalists are way out in uncharted territory, probably past the point of no return. And a large hostile Muslim population is already inside the gates. In any event, Best of Luck. Never give up!

    France is one of the countries with the biggest hunting culture in the world. It probably has a bigger percentage of hunters than America. Did you know they still have stag hunts on horseback with French horns and hounds and uniforms? There is also boar hunting in the mountains. Those are specialized hunts. But there are a bigger percentage of average guys with a rifle who hunt than there is in America.

    It’s partly socialism and long vacations and many holidays that allows them the time to hunt. But its pretty much the France Profund ancient French rural culture. It’s also because of a higher rate of second homes in rural areas than in America.

    Thinking of hunting did you read about the 36 point buck shot in Minnesota and wonder of wonders the 47 pt in Tennessee? The article said the 47 pt was a Whitetail but he looked bigger than any Whitetail I’ve ever seen, almost as big as a mule.

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  29. @Alden
    I don't like jazz either. It always reminds me of pretentious pseudo intellectuals who only like what is supposed to be stylish among the elite.

    One way to argue with Trump haters is to ask them to give one instance of a racist misogynist anti gay, anti semite, anti black brown etc thing he did or said. They will not be able to.

    Also explain to them that phobia does not mean hate or dislike. It is a medical term for a totally unreasonable, disabling fear that has no basis in reality. An example would be never going anywhere you cannot walk because you fear driving, taking a bus, subway taxi or any other kind of transport. Explain that a misogynist is a man who doesn't like women. With three marriages, he obviously likes women. For a long time it was a euphemism for gay man because they did not like to have sex or romantic relationships with women..

    But I just don't talk about it all. When people weep and wail about the election I smirk. Then they ask me why I could do such a thing. I just reply that I have read newspapers all my life and I have found that virtually every word written in newspapers is false. Since the truth is always the opposite of what the newspapers write, it is easy to know the truth.

    “I don’t like jazz either”.

    Simply because you are not endowed with the mental capacity to understand it.

    In Italy, the most musical country on earth, jazz is revered, loved and respected.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member, and pro jazz artist.

    P I love country music, and can sing in the country idiom.

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  30. “Juppé, dignified, sensible, and moderate, is just what France needs after the disastrous socialist president François Hollande.”

    “Dignified, sensible, and moderate” was Hollande’s platform. So more of the same is just what France needs? Really? The case could be made: just trust the same old political class that’s been managing things for the last 30-50 years: Juppé was prime minister 20 years ago, ousted as a cold and strict due to leftist unrest, later condemned for political party corruption (he took the fall for the president), and now he has made a comeback as a nice, wise moderate.

    So the case could be made… but that’s an odd sentence in the middle of praise for the Trumpocalypse. To me he seems the perfect example of the clueless élite that got us in this mess. Unless you think everything’s pretty ok, in which case Clinton/Juppé is perfect.

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    As it turns out, Juppé looks unlikely to be the candidate for Les Républicains. Fillon, a somewhat less cucked politician, seems the probable victor in the primary run-off.
  31. 5371 says:
    @European-American

    "Juppé, dignified, sensible, and moderate, is just what France needs after the disastrous socialist president François Hollande."
     
    "Dignified, sensible, and moderate" was Hollande's platform. So more of the same is just what France needs? Really? The case could be made: just trust the same old political class that's been managing things for the last 30-50 years: Juppé was prime minister 20 years ago, ousted as a cold and strict due to leftist unrest, later condemned for political party corruption (he took the fall for the president), and now he has made a comeback as a nice, wise moderate.

    So the case could be made... but that's an odd sentence in the middle of praise for the Trumpocalypse. To me he seems the perfect example of the clueless élite that got us in this mess. Unless you think everything's pretty ok, in which case Clinton/Juppé is perfect.

    As it turns out, Juppé looks unlikely to be the candidate for Les Républicains. Fillon, a somewhat less cucked politician, seems the probable victor in the primary run-off.

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