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Many Americans voted for Donald Trump because he vowed to end the foreign conflicts in which the US had become entangled. So far, they have been disappointed. But this week a light flashed at the end of the tunnel.

President Trump, according to numerous reliable Washington sources, has decided to end US arms supplies and logistics support to Syria’s jihadist rebels that have fuelled the bloody six-year conflict. Washington, and its allies Britain and France, have persistently denied arming Syria’s jihadist rebels fighting to bring down the Russian and Iranian-backed government of President Bashar Assad.

Former President George W. Bush actively considered invading Syria around 2008 in collusion with Israel. But the Israelis then pointed out that there were no Western-friendly groups to replace Assad, only extreme militant Sunni Muslim groups. Even the usually reckless Bush called off the invasion of Syria.

By contrast, Barack Obama gave a green light to the CIA to arm, train and logistically support anti-Assad jihadist rebels in Syria. Arms poured in from Lebanon and, later, Turkey, paid for by Saudi Arabia and the Gulf emirates. Small numbers of US, British and French advisors went to Syria to teach the jihadists how to use mortars, explosives, and anti-tank weapons. The media’s claim that the fighting in Syria was due to a spontaneous popular uprising was false. The repressive Assad government was widely unpopular but the uprising was another CIA ‘color-style’ operation.

The object of this operation was to overthrow President Assad and his Shiite-leaning regime, which was supported by Iran, a bogeyman to all the US-backed feudal Arab oil monarchies. Syria was also to be punished because it refused Washington’s demands to sever ties with Iran and accept US tutelage.

Then US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton championed the covert war against Syria, arranging massive shipments of arms and munitions to the rebels from Kadaffi-era arms stores in Libya, and from Egypt, Croatia, likely Serbia, Bulgaria and Azerbaijan. Once again, the Gulf Arabs paid the bill.

The offensive against Syria was accompanied by a powerful barrage of anti-Assad propaganda from the US and British media. From the background, Israel and its partisans beat the war drum against the Assad government.

The result of the western-engendered carnage in Syria was horrendous: at least 475,000 dead, 5 million Syrian refugees driven into exile in neighboring states (Turkey alone hosts three million), and another 6 million internally displaced. That is, some 11 million Syrians, or 61% of the population, driven from their homes into wretched living conditions and near famine.

Two of Syria’s greatest and oldest cities, Damascus and Aleppo, have been pounded into ruins. Jihadist massacres and Russian and American air strikes have ravaged once beautiful, relatively prosperous Syria. Its ancient Christian peoples are fleeing for their lives before US and Saudi takfiri religious fanatics.

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Just when it appeared the jihadists were closing in on Damascus, limited but effective Russian military intervention abruptly changed the course of the war. The Syrian Army was able to regain the military initiative and push back the jihadists. Intermixed with so-called ‘takfiri’ rebels are some 3,000 ISIS jihadists who were originally armed and equipped by US advisors but have now run amok. They are under fierce western air attack in Syria and Iraq and are splintering.

Russia and the US have been inching toward a major war over Syria. In fact, US intervention has been far more extensive than generally believed, as this writer has been reporting for the past five years. Turkish media linked to the government in Ankara has just revealed that the US has at least ten small military bases in northern Syria being used to support rebel jihadist forces.

Meanwhile, the US is now relying almost entirely on Kurdish militias, know in Syria as YPG, to attack ISIS and act in US interests. This has outraged Turkey, which regards YPG as part of the hated Kurdish independence movement, PKK, against which Turkey has fought for two decades. During the 1980’s, I covered the Turkish-PKK conflict in eastern Anatolia.

If YPG/PKK emerges victorious from the Syrian conflict, Kurdish demands for an independent state in south eastern Turkey will intensify, threatening the breakup of the Turkish state. Kurds make up some 20% of Turkey’s population of 80 million.

For this very important reason, Turkey has been pulling away from US-run NATO, and warming relations with Moscow. Turkey has NATO’s second largest armed forces and key airbases that cover the Mideast.

Trump’s announced retreat from Syria – if it turns out to be real – will mark a major turning point in US-Russian relations. It could well avoid a clash between Russia and the US, both nuclear powers. The US has no real business in Syria and no strategic interests

America’s powerful neocons, who have been pressing for war against Russia, will be furious. Expect the media war against Trump to intensify. So too claims that Trump colluded with Moscow to get elected.

Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2017

(Republished from EricMargolis.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Randal says:

    But this week a light flashed at the end of the tunnel.

    President Trump, according to numerous reliable Washington sources, has decided to end US arms supplies and logistics support to Syria’s jihadist rebels that have fuelled the bloody six-year conflict.

    That’s fine, but the problem is that Trump’s track record so far makes it impossible to give him unalloyed credit for this. At the moment it has to be counted as just another “up” moment in the rollercoaster ride that has been the Trump presidency so far. Will it foreshadow further moves towards sanity in foreign policy? Or will it just be followed by another literally stupid lurch back to the neocon-driven norm?

    Looked at optimistically, you can read it as a sign that the underlying sensibleness of the patriotic “America first” noninterventionist approach (as opposed to the usual Israel/Saudi first, or US-uber-alles militarism, or “humanitarian interventionism” approach) is finally prevailing, or at least as a sign of a reduction in the US regime drive towards direct confrontation of Russia.

    But looked at pessimistically, it’s just an admission of the already obvious failure of one particular interventionist approach and its termination in favour of alternative approaches to the same ends, which will be followed by some idiocy such as another childish murder of Syrian conscripts when Trump is shown some more emotionally manipulative photographs.

    Time will tell.

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    • Replies: @Ace
    The goal of supporting the Kurds is still a priority, to advance Israel's fall back position of partition. It would prefer the chaos of a regime run by jihadi scum (not going to happen thanks to V. Putin) but either way we'll do Israel's bidding.

    Mr. Margolis is must read for me but I wonder at his embrace of the "repressive," "unpopular" Assad regime view. I don't get that impression and it is certainly not the view of Eva Bartlett or Vanessa Beeley. The chemical weapons stuff is complete garbage as Margolis knows.
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  2. Kudos to Mr. Margolis for penning an excellent article describing the real facts of the matter against the prevailing propaganda narrative and placing the blame, including by implication war crimes responsibility, where it belongs.

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  3. Gg Mo says:

    Why is NO ONE at UNZ covering the UN pay-to-play Corruption/Bribery trial of Ng Lap Seng ? More coming down the pike involving Ban Ki Moon’s brother ! Thank Goodness for Mattew Lee at Inner City Press ! https://youtu.be/62YnvqveGYU
    UNZ should DEFINITELY carry his reportage as he seems to be the ONLY one at the Pressers w/ Dujarric asking questions about ANYTHING at the UN.

    http://www.innercitypress.com/unbribery63uncooperativeun072217.html

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Yes, Matthew Lee at Inner City Press (not to be confused with Matt Lee who covers the US State Dept.) is doing valuable work. As you say, covering neglected items at UN.
  4. Gg Mo says:
    @exiled off mainstreet
    Kudos to Mr. Margolis for penning an excellent article describing the real facts of the matter against the prevailing propaganda narrative and placing the blame, including by implication war crimes responsibility, where it belongs.

    Agreed.

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  5. Russ says:

    A sidelined John McCain should be a greatly reduced impediment to an exit from Syria.

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    • Replies: @lavoisier
    I think that is a good observation. I also believe his traitorous sidekick Graham will also be a little less vocal about his support for world destruction now that his comrade in stupidity has fallen.

    These two obviously are bought and paid for by the Zionists. There is no other explanation for their predictable level of malice and stupidity.
    , @jacques sheete

    A sidelined John McCain should be a greatly reduced impediment to an exit from Syria.
     
    Let's hope so. Unfortunately there is no shortage of crackpots to replace that reeking glob of slime.
  6. Who exactly is the US at war against in Syria and why is it going on?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-military-bases-in-syria-their-precise-location-is-known/5600527

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "...ten U.S. bases in the Syrian provinces of Al-Hasakah, Manbij and Raqqa, as well as in the areas of Harab-Isk and Rmeilan... The source also reported on the number of the U.S. servicemen deployed at these bases."
    Splendid. Illegally, on a territory of the sovereign state of Syria, without any permission from the Syrian government. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-military-bases-in-syria-their-precise-location-is-known/5600527
    But for the demonizers of Iran and apologists of Kievan junta, the US involvement in Syria is a clear case of bringing the "democracy on the march."
  7. SND says:

    Former President George W. Bush actively considered invading Syria around 2008 in collusion with Israel. But the Israelis then pointed out that there were no Western-friendly groups to replace Assad, only extreme militant Sunni Muslim groups. Even the usually reckless Bush called off the invasion of Syria.

    You mean the Israeli government’s desire that the US fragment Middle Eastern Arab states for Israel’s hegemonic purposes is actually a concern for “Western-friendly groups?” And the repeated Israeli statements that “ISIS would be better than Assad” means they totally changed their mind since Bush days? Something doesn’t smell quite right here.

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  8. President Trump, according to numerous reliable Washington sources, has decided to end US arms supplies and logistics support to Syria’s jihadist rebels that have fueled the bloody six-year conflict.

    Trump has decided. Perhaps. But do the CIA and/or Pentagon really care what Trump decides?

    Thank you for this concise summation of Imperial Washington’s war against Syria.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "But do the CIA and/or Pentagon really care what Trump decides?"
    -- You mean, the CIA and/or Pentagon will jump as high as the Lobby tell them to jump?
  9. RobinG says:
    @Gg Mo
    Why is NO ONE at UNZ covering the UN pay-to-play Corruption/Bribery trial of Ng Lap Seng ? More coming down the pike involving Ban Ki Moon's brother ! Thank Goodness for Mattew Lee at Inner City Press ! https://youtu.be/62YnvqveGYU
    UNZ should DEFINITELY carry his reportage as he seems to be the ONLY one at the Pressers w/ Dujarric asking questions about ANYTHING at the UN.
    http://www.innercitypress.com/unbribery63uncooperativeun072217.html

    Yes, Matthew Lee at Inner City Press (not to be confused with Matt Lee who covers the US State Dept.) is doing valuable work. As you say, covering neglected items at UN.

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    • Replies: @Gg Mo
    He is the LAST Real Journalist at the UN pressers . Him today explain his oust of his office space at the UN and replacement by a FAKE "Egyptian" Newspaper.
    https://youtu.be/FKA1gdo63sc
  10. The great thing resulting from the election of Trump is that it made quite clear how undemocratic the USA is, and how Israel influences, tries to determine, USA foreign policy.
    Trump and Putin agree on a partial cease fire in Syria, who objects ?: Netanyahu.
    What media continue accusing Trump on collusion with the enemy, Russia ?
    CNN, Washpost and NYT.
    I hope Trump survives the Cold Civil War.
    Kennedy did not.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    It won't come to that right away. But it will come to that if Trump does not ultimately keep the pressure on the Assad regime, and if he ignores all the drumbeats (and survives the "impeachment").
  11. Ace says:
    @Randal

    But this week a light flashed at the end of the tunnel.

    President Trump, according to numerous reliable Washington sources, has decided to end US arms supplies and logistics support to Syria’s jihadist rebels that have fuelled the bloody six-year conflict.
     
    That's fine, but the problem is that Trump's track record so far makes it impossible to give him unalloyed credit for this. At the moment it has to be counted as just another "up" moment in the rollercoaster ride that has been the Trump presidency so far. Will it foreshadow further moves towards sanity in foreign policy? Or will it just be followed by another literally stupid lurch back to the neocon-driven norm?

    Looked at optimistically, you can read it as a sign that the underlying sensibleness of the patriotic "America first" noninterventionist approach (as opposed to the usual Israel/Saudi first, or US-uber-alles militarism, or "humanitarian interventionism" approach) is finally prevailing, or at least as a sign of a reduction in the US regime drive towards direct confrontation of Russia.

    But looked at pessimistically, it's just an admission of the already obvious failure of one particular interventionist approach and its termination in favour of alternative approaches to the same ends, which will be followed by some idiocy such as another childish murder of Syrian conscripts when Trump is shown some more emotionally manipulative photographs.

    Time will tell.

    The goal of supporting the Kurds is still a priority, to advance Israel’s fall back position of partition. It would prefer the chaos of a regime run by jihadi scum (not going to happen thanks to V. Putin) but either way we’ll do Israel’s bidding.

    Mr. Margolis is must read for me but I wonder at his embrace of the “repressive,” “unpopular” Assad regime view. I don’t get that impression and it is certainly not the view of Eva Bartlett or Vanessa Beeley. The chemical weapons stuff is complete garbage as Margolis knows.

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  12. Renoman says:

    Trump will be very popular if he pulls this off, war in Syria is not in the US interest and being friends with Russia is a smart move. Go Trump!
    Good article Eric!

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  13. Miro23 says:

    The result of the western-engendered carnage in Syria was horrendous: at least 475,000 dead, 5 million Syrian refugees driven into exile in neighboring states (Turkey alone hosts three million), and another 6 million internally displaced. That is, some 11 million Syrians, or 61% of the population, driven from their homes into wretched living conditions and near famine.

    You can lay all this at the door of Israel, US Neo-cons and their Congressional and MSM collaborators + treasonous leaders like Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Same for the Iraq war (duck shoot) with its WMD lies and the MSM 9/11 trigger “Event”.

    The US as an Israeli colony is a disaster for the people of Iraq, Libya and Syria and it’s also the worst news for the 98% of Gentiles in the US who have now lost their country to these Zionist freaks.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "The US as an Israeli colony is a disaster for the people of Iraq, Libya, and Syria..."
    Agree. A minor addition: The US as an Israeli colony is a disaster for the people of the US as well.
  14. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    To claim that Israel got Bush the Mad to back off from invading Syria because they were concerned about moderate head choppers being the only ones who would fill the power vacuum is laughable.

    Israel has supported these thugs many times with medical care, money, shelter in the stolen Golan and most importantly, their MSM buddies printing all those stories about how Assad must go.

    Israel had been directing its colony, the formerly free USA, to bust up Syria and murder Assad and that we have been faithfully trying to do, but that damned Putin got in the way, so sic the MSM on him and his buddy Trump.

    The illegal war against Syria is far from over, Israel is PO that Syria hasn’t been destroyed and they will not take lightly some chump like Trump interfering with their plans.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "Israel had been directing its colony, the formerly free USA, to bust up Syria and murder Assad and that we have been faithfully trying to do, but that damned Putin got in the way..."
    This is why the Russain Federation has been suffering the relentless barrage of demonization and economic sanctions, and this why Americans have been suffering the stupidity of the ziocon-promoted Russiangate.
  15. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Russ
    A sidelined John McCain should be a greatly reduced impediment to an exit from Syria.

    I think that is a good observation. I also believe his traitorous sidekick Graham will also be a little less vocal about his support for world destruction now that his comrade in stupidity has fallen.

    These two obviously are bought and paid for by the Zionists. There is no other explanation for their predictable level of malice and stupidity.

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  16. @Russ
    A sidelined John McCain should be a greatly reduced impediment to an exit from Syria.

    A sidelined John McCain should be a greatly reduced impediment to an exit from Syria.

    Let’s hope so. Unfortunately there is no shortage of crackpots to replace that reeking glob of slime.

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  17. All good points but its disgusting how left anti imperialists care more about a foreign people than the colonization and dispossession of the their own group by hordes of ‘the other’ from the global south under the aegis of neoliberal ideology.

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  18. Che Guava says:

    Well, we non-USA can only be hoping. That order was one of the better, anybody who is reading english is to knowing that the building attack had nothing to do with a consulate, but the consul happened to be there at the time.

    Sure, probably CIA. The weapons-running operation certainly was.

    Hillary was terrible to making ‘The Kindness of Muslims’ maker the scapegoat, sending him to prison in defiance of his rights, I only saw the short, but it was both apt and funny, if there is a feature-length version, I would love to seeing it. It did exist, it seems, was shown once or twice.

    Aah, memory holes.

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  19. As so often, the weakness of the argument is obvious in the first sentence: “Many Americans voted for Donald Trump because he vowed to end the foreign conflicts in which the US had become entangled”. I can’t say I recall any such vow. Trump is a master of doubletalk. He says everything and the contrary of everything. Mr Margolis, and others, heard what they wanted to hear and believed what they wanted to believe. Quite simply, they fell into the trap Trump set for them. Even if Trump wasn’t the most pro-Israel president in US history, the Israel Lobby is there to see that US foreign policy suits Israel’s interests. Israel sees Iran as its principal enemy. Putin has snuggled up to Iran and is propping up Iran’s “ally”, Assad. Israel thus needs to get both Assad and Putin out of Syria. By failing to stand up to Putin in Ukraine, Obama allowed him to discredit the US as Europe’s, and by extension, Israel’s protector and to discredit NATO as the instrument of that protection. For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe. Thus, Trump has to restore US and NATO credibility and the only way to do that is to get Putin out of Ukraine and, ideally, out of power. The simplest way to do that is to fight him in Syria, where he’s bogged down and cornered and cannot escape unless the US capitulates. Thus, arming or not arming this or that Syrian group is totally irrelevant. It just shows that the US can turn the heat up and down on Putin at will. I can’t imagine, therefore, why US neocons would be “furious”. The longer Putin is bogged down in Syria, the better. The last thing Trump needs is to have anything he does, whether in Syria or Ukraine, billed as a “retreat” in regard to Putin. That will simply inflame Russiagate.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    You are so clearly a harmful propagandist on so many levels that I need not to pointing it out.

    I am knowing that you are to making one or two of good points at times, but only to draw to all of your lies and stupid assumptions.

    Essentially, to making EU= NATO=zionism is the great thing to you, hate Russia is your cause.

    Your 'Michael Kenny' is as much a pseudonym as mine. It is obvious. At least, when I am posting, it is from the heart of the person behind the pseudonym and of goodwill or to informing. Reading yours, it is very difficult to see any good intentions.

    Many others here are to having critical faculties. They also will be seeing you for what you are, just a nasty and cheap propagandist, with posts that are always being too long.

    Are you on some kind of 'net agent of influence programme? Sure is looking like it.
    , @Greg Bacon
    For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe.

    Why should the USA defend Israel from its horrible choices, especially being an Apartheid nightmare?

    Why should we defend a nation that has attacked our ships, bases and personnel numerous times?

    Why should we defend a nation that has control of our economy thru their choke-hold on the FED and Treasury?

    Why should we defend a nation that acts like a spoiled child anytime it doesn't get it's way and goes on murderous rampages against the world's biggest concentration camp, Gaza?

    Why should we defend a nation that attacked us on 9/11, then had their MSM whores blame the Muslim world?

    http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch01_en.html
    , @annamaria
    "For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe."
    For obvious reasons, the sooner the US disengages from Israel, the better for the whole world.
  20. Trumps word means nothing, and he never said a thing about the pentagram ending their support of isis aka al ciada, so this is much ado about nothing, the Zionists want war and war they shall have until Zionist Israel destroys America.

    Zionist Israel and the U.S. and Britain created isis aka al ciada and anyone who thinks they have given up on regime change and the greater Israel plan in the Mideast is sadly mistaken. America is under Zionist control.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "...the Zionists want war and war they shall have until Zionist Israel destroys America."

    True. The Jewish communities of the EU/US, UK must decide - now - whether they are with western civilization or with the mythological and barbarous dream of Eretz Israel. The US, UK, and EU have been a safe harbor for the majority of Jewish people for the last 50 years. However, the Jewish Lobby is not satisfied with such trifles as the peaceful life and security and it wants Eretz Israel; PNAC (ziocons' manifest) has been used as an ideological guise.
    There were certain sane Germans who tried to stop Hitler and thus to save Germany. Some of them paid for the attempts with their lives. Where are the Jewish communities of the US, UK, and EU to stop the lunatics, all these Friends of Israel and AIPAC, these pushers towards a worldwide catastrophe? See the ziocon plan in Ukraine, which made the lives of many Jews there intolerable (welcome, neo-Nazi). What is next - the rise of antisemitism in the tolerant (for now) Europe and US?
    If MSM were the honest sources of information, the westerners would have seen already the thousands and thousands of little corpses, the victims of "humanitarian interventions" of NATO/US in Libya and Syria and would already demand to hang the main war profiteers /war criminals to prevent more carnage and more war-profiteering schems.
    The ongoing wars in the Middle EAst are an integral part of Eretz Israel project. Give Israel its due.

  21. Che Guava says:

    Russiagate, what a nonsensical concept. Constantly shifting narrative.

    OMG, they hacked voting machines!

    OMG, they hacked DNC servers!

    OMG, someone talked to a Russian!

    It is so stupid.

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  22. DaveE says:

    Could it be that Trump is waking up? In spite of all his bluster during the campaign, it’s become obvious that Mr. Trump doesn’t have the foggiest idea how government and politics actually works. It’s just a LITTLE different than running a real-estate operation.

    My opinion is that that Trump, being the very insecure egotist that he is, is beginning, just barely, to realize what people actually expect, not what the neocon con-artists and rigged “opinion polls” tell him the story is.

    Is Trump, maybe, just kinda sorta maybe, waking up to slimeballs like his dirty little son-in-law he so fervently followed in the past?

    Anyway, Trump has been scoring big lately with his chat with Putin and this kick to the neocons’ sensitive area.

    Let’s all write the guy and tell him he’s on the right track. I’m sure the “opinion polls” will tell him just the opposite, since they’re nothing more than some Jew in an office in Brooklyn telling us what we believe.

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  23. Che Guava says:
    @Michael Kenny
    As so often, the weakness of the argument is obvious in the first sentence: “Many Americans voted for Donald Trump because he vowed to end the foreign conflicts in which the US had become entangled”. I can’t say I recall any such vow. Trump is a master of doubletalk. He says everything and the contrary of everything. Mr Margolis, and others, heard what they wanted to hear and believed what they wanted to believe. Quite simply, they fell into the trap Trump set for them. Even if Trump wasn’t the most pro-Israel president in US history, the Israel Lobby is there to see that US foreign policy suits Israel’s interests. Israel sees Iran as its principal enemy. Putin has snuggled up to Iran and is propping up Iran’s “ally”, Assad. Israel thus needs to get both Assad and Putin out of Syria. By failing to stand up to Putin in Ukraine, Obama allowed him to discredit the US as Europe’s, and by extension, Israel’s protector and to discredit NATO as the instrument of that protection. For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe. Thus, Trump has to restore US and NATO credibility and the only way to do that is to get Putin out of Ukraine and, ideally, out of power. The simplest way to do that is to fight him in Syria, where he’s bogged down and cornered and cannot escape unless the US capitulates. Thus, arming or not arming this or that Syrian group is totally irrelevant. It just shows that the US can turn the heat up and down on Putin at will. I can’t imagine, therefore, why US neocons would be “furious”. The longer Putin is bogged down in Syria, the better. The last thing Trump needs is to have anything he does, whether in Syria or Ukraine, billed as a “retreat” in regard to Putin. That will simply inflame Russiagate.

    You are so clearly a harmful propagandist on so many levels that I need not to pointing it out.

    I am knowing that you are to making one or two of good points at times, but only to draw to all of your lies and stupid assumptions.

    Essentially, to making EU= NATO=zionism is the great thing to you, hate Russia is your cause.

    Your ‘Michael Kenny’ is as much a pseudonym as mine. It is obvious. At least, when I am posting, it is from the heart of the person behind the pseudonym and of goodwill or to informing. Reading yours, it is very difficult to see any good intentions.

    Many others here are to having critical faculties. They also will be seeing you for what you are, just a nasty and cheap propagandist, with posts that are always being too long.

    Are you on some kind of ‘net agent of influence programme? Sure is looking like it.

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  24. Joe Hide says:

    The evidence seems to support the view that an informational war, with some actual murders, is taking place within and between, the CIA, FBI, NSA, other U.S. agencies and institutions. Also this happened in Russia but as Putin survived and consolidated power, it’s much less so now. It is probably happening in many countries. I have come to the conclusion that these “hidden wars” within seemingly unified groups is part and parcel of human nature. The bad guy deceivers normally have a huge advantage in that they become much more skilled at deceiving. Their great disadvantage is that they eventually go so obviously nuts that nobody believes them anymore!

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  25. Randal says:

    Their great disadvantage is that they eventually go so obviously nuts that nobody believes them anymore!

    And yet John McCain and Lindsey Graham keep on getting re-elected, usually by huge margins.

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  26. Where is the “Special Prosecutor” on this?

    Assange: ‘CIA Not Only Armed Syria’s Insurgents–It Paid Their Salaries’

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57076

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    This is great: "CIA not only armed Syria's insurgents -- it paid their salaries."
    And who are these "insurgents" - the "moderate" jihadis affiliated with ISIS and Al Qaeda?
    The supposedly "manly" CIA director Mike Pompeo comes out as a banal opportunist inclined to hysterics.
    Pompeo, “No one has the right to engage in the theft of secrets from America!”
    Assange, "What sort of America can be "taken down" by the truth?"
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/wikileaks-issues-response-cia-director-mike-pompeo
    "Pompeo and David B. Rivkin Jr., a senior fellow at the neoconservative think-tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies, argued in an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal that “Legal and bureaucratic impediments to surveillance should be removed.” Pompeo has also suggested that National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden should be executed."
    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/trumps-pro-torture-pro-israel-cia-chief
  27. Since the Resistance has relentlessly played the bogus Russia narrative to a point where it is hampering him from getting anything done (thus jeopardizing his reelection, if not some crazy impeachment attempt), Trump’s only choice, according to Jiu-Jitsu, is to flip the script and make the Left the pro-War party.

    Go!

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  28. Sean says:

    http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/disaster-area/
    Some years ago I had the pleasure of coming across a book by the aged doyen of “oriental studies,” Bernard Lewis. Titled What Went Wrong and first published in 2002, it tried to explain how and why the brilliant civilization of the Middle Ages had declined until, finally, it reached the point where the epithet “Arab” is positive only when applied to a horse.

    Though I read it twice, I still do not know.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    The brilliant Muslim civilization is a myth It never existed.

    The Arabs conquered the Middle East and blundered into the legacy of Egypt, Persia Mesopotamia, Greece Rome, and the Byzantine empire. Claiming the Muslim primitive Arabs created the legacy of those civilizations is like saying Walter Raleigh developed tobacco or the Spanish conquerors developed potatoes and corn.
    Iranians still resent the conquest of their ancient civilization by the barbarian primitive Arabs

    It took about 500 years but the Muslim Arabs destroyed those civilization. Morrish Spain? Every one of those great buildings, from architects and engineers to porters were built by European slaves.

    It was the numerous Christians and less numerous Jews who kept things going. The Turks wouldn't even hire Muslim Arabs for any kind of government positions in the Arab countries. They used local Christians, Jews and imported slave Europeans.

    I've read Bernard Lewis. He's outdated. For a long time in the 19th and early 20th century Jews wrote many of those books extolling the superiority of Muslim Jewish countries over us blue eyed barbarians. Lewis is one of those writers

  29. nsa says:

    Must be tough typing out a couple thousand word screed re the destruction of the ME without mentioning the vile jooies and their total domination of American foreign policy in the area. The US Knesset on the Potomac is now actually trying to pass a law outlawing any criticism of the bloodthirsty Izzies…..with very stiff fines for offenders. Need any more evidence?

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  30. Alden says:
    @Sean

    http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/disaster-area/
    Some years ago I had the pleasure of coming across a book by the aged doyen of “oriental studies,” Bernard Lewis. Titled What Went Wrong and first published in 2002, it tried to explain how and why the brilliant civilization of the Middle Ages had declined until, finally, it reached the point where the epithet “Arab” is positive only when applied to a horse.

    Though I read it twice, I still do not know.
     

    The brilliant Muslim civilization is a myth It never existed.

    The Arabs conquered the Middle East and blundered into the legacy of Egypt, Persia Mesopotamia, Greece Rome, and the Byzantine empire. Claiming the Muslim primitive Arabs created the legacy of those civilizations is like saying Walter Raleigh developed tobacco or the Spanish conquerors developed potatoes and corn.
    Iranians still resent the conquest of their ancient civilization by the barbarian primitive Arabs

    It took about 500 years but the Muslim Arabs destroyed those civilization. Morrish Spain? Every one of those great buildings, from architects and engineers to porters were built by European slaves.

    It was the numerous Christians and less numerous Jews who kept things going. The Turks wouldn’t even hire Muslim Arabs for any kind of government positions in the Arab countries. They used local Christians, Jews and imported slave Europeans.

    I’ve read Bernard Lewis. He’s outdated. For a long time in the 19th and early 20th century Jews wrote many of those books extolling the superiority of Muslim Jewish countries over us blue eyed barbarians. Lewis is one of those writers

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    "in the 19th and early 20th century Jews wrote many of those books extolling the superiority of Muslim Jewish countries over us blue eyed barbarians"

    Correct. But in the 2nd half of 20 c. the winds of history shifted with the creation of state of Israel and Jewish historians decided to write the history anew in which Muslims were not so good anymore. Father of Netanyahu was one of them.

    Which Jewish historians do you want to believe?
    , @Sean
    My point is the Arabs have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot. Martin van Creveld says

    The aftermath of the war [WW1] saw the establishment of the colonies—which later developed into independent states—of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, the Gulf, and Trans-Jordan (as it then was). Saudi Arabia, which was never occupied by either Britain or France, became independent by default. [...]

    Since then the peace to end all peace, as it has been called, has remained the source of endless trouble. First the British had to cope with Arab uprisings in Palestine and, on a much larger scale, in Iraq. No sooner were those revolts suppressed than trouble broke out on the border between Trans Jordan and Saudi Arabia, an entirely artificial line on the map that the local tribes refused to respect. In 1927-29 it was the turn of the French to cope with what is still remembered as the Great Syrian Revolt. [...]

    How to account for all this trouble? Perhaps the most important answer is the extraordinary complexity of the region. A complexity which the new states, lacking firm roots in the population as they did, never succeeded in controlling. There are, of course, Egyptians and Syrians and Iraqis and Saudis and so forth. But there are also Israelis and Palestinians. And Arabs and Kurds. And Egyptian Muslims and Egyptian Copts. There are Sunnis and there are Shi’ites and there are Allawi’s, whom some do not recognize as Muslims at all ...).
     

    The Kurds' interminable revolts have had help from the US. but really you cannot say the US created the uprising of the Kurds against every state they reside in The last time the US helped Kurds and then abandoned them. Just like the Syrian rebels. Kurds never expected anything different as they have been dumped by the US before. Leaving their erstwhile allies to their fate is something America has a reputation for. So I would not get excited about the US doing it in Syria.
  31. Greg Bacon says: • Website
    @Michael Kenny
    As so often, the weakness of the argument is obvious in the first sentence: “Many Americans voted for Donald Trump because he vowed to end the foreign conflicts in which the US had become entangled”. I can’t say I recall any such vow. Trump is a master of doubletalk. He says everything and the contrary of everything. Mr Margolis, and others, heard what they wanted to hear and believed what they wanted to believe. Quite simply, they fell into the trap Trump set for them. Even if Trump wasn’t the most pro-Israel president in US history, the Israel Lobby is there to see that US foreign policy suits Israel’s interests. Israel sees Iran as its principal enemy. Putin has snuggled up to Iran and is propping up Iran’s “ally”, Assad. Israel thus needs to get both Assad and Putin out of Syria. By failing to stand up to Putin in Ukraine, Obama allowed him to discredit the US as Europe’s, and by extension, Israel’s protector and to discredit NATO as the instrument of that protection. For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe. Thus, Trump has to restore US and NATO credibility and the only way to do that is to get Putin out of Ukraine and, ideally, out of power. The simplest way to do that is to fight him in Syria, where he’s bogged down and cornered and cannot escape unless the US capitulates. Thus, arming or not arming this or that Syrian group is totally irrelevant. It just shows that the US can turn the heat up and down on Putin at will. I can’t imagine, therefore, why US neocons would be “furious”. The longer Putin is bogged down in Syria, the better. The last thing Trump needs is to have anything he does, whether in Syria or Ukraine, billed as a “retreat” in regard to Putin. That will simply inflame Russiagate.

    For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe.

    Why should the USA defend Israel from its horrible choices, especially being an Apartheid nightmare?

    Why should we defend a nation that has attacked our ships, bases and personnel numerous times?

    Why should we defend a nation that has control of our economy thru their choke-hold on the FED and Treasury?

    Why should we defend a nation that acts like a spoiled child anytime it doesn’t get it’s way and goes on murderous rampages against the world’s biggest concentration camp, Gaza?

    Why should we defend a nation that attacked us on 9/11, then had their MSM whores blame the Muslim world?

    http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch01_en.html

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    The attempted sinking of the USS Liberty in 1967 and the actions of the US government since reveal 50 years of the Israeli tail wagging the yankee dog. It is unprecedented in history for an auxilliary satellite state to so dominate the foreign policy actions of what should be the dominant power. Whether or not 9-11 was a conspiracy is interesting but not dispositive, since whatever its cause, whether or not intentionally planned or simply allowed to happen, as I suspect, the event was used as a Reichstag fire event by the yankee regime and its Israeli patrons to brush aside any remaining opposition to the neocon project. By the way, I am totally convinced that the anthrax attacks occurring in the wake of 9-11 were to secure this result.
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Why should you? Because Jesus was a Jew... just kidding! But didn't you utter something about a chockhold on the Fed and the Treasury? Well, it may just be me but if I controlled my bitch's purse then she would be dancing to my tune too!
  32. Art says:

    The illness of McCain will give the prospects for cooperation between the US and Russian a big boost.

    Here is an interesting article on the subject.

    Dismantling McCain’s Disastrous Legacy Should Now Be Trump’s Top Priority

    By Tom Luongo

    … … …

    The Arizona senator’s absence creates a unique opportunity for President Trump to alter the course of our foreign and domestic policy. From Iraq to Libya, Syria to Afghanistan and right up to Russia’s borders in Ukraine, McCain’s bloody paw prints are all over more than a decade of American foreign policy blunders.

    http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=20873

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  33. @Greg Bacon
    For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe.

    Why should the USA defend Israel from its horrible choices, especially being an Apartheid nightmare?

    Why should we defend a nation that has attacked our ships, bases and personnel numerous times?

    Why should we defend a nation that has control of our economy thru their choke-hold on the FED and Treasury?

    Why should we defend a nation that acts like a spoiled child anytime it doesn't get it's way and goes on murderous rampages against the world's biggest concentration camp, Gaza?

    Why should we defend a nation that attacked us on 9/11, then had their MSM whores blame the Muslim world?

    http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch01_en.html

    The attempted sinking of the USS Liberty in 1967 and the actions of the US government since reveal 50 years of the Israeli tail wagging the yankee dog. It is unprecedented in history for an auxilliary satellite state to so dominate the foreign policy actions of what should be the dominant power. Whether or not 9-11 was a conspiracy is interesting but not dispositive, since whatever its cause, whether or not intentionally planned or simply allowed to happen, as I suspect, the event was used as a Reichstag fire event by the yankee regime and its Israeli patrons to brush aside any remaining opposition to the neocon project. By the way, I am totally convinced that the anthrax attacks occurring in the wake of 9-11 were to secure this result.

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  34. annamaria says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Who exactly is the US at war against in Syria and why is it going on?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-military-bases-in-syria-their-precise-location-is-known/5600527

    “…ten U.S. bases in the Syrian provinces of Al-Hasakah, Manbij and Raqqa, as well as in the areas of Harab-Isk and Rmeilan… The source also reported on the number of the U.S. servicemen deployed at these bases.”
    Splendid. Illegally, on a territory of the sovereign state of Syria, without any permission from the Syrian government. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-military-bases-in-syria-their-precise-location-is-known/5600527
    But for the demonizers of Iran and apologists of Kievan junta, the US involvement in Syria is a clear case of bringing the “democracy on the march.”

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  35. annamaria says:
    @WorkingClass

    President Trump, according to numerous reliable Washington sources, has decided to end US arms supplies and logistics support to Syria’s jihadist rebels that have fueled the bloody six-year conflict.
     
    Trump has decided. Perhaps. But do the CIA and/or Pentagon really care what Trump decides?

    Thank you for this concise summation of Imperial Washington's war against Syria.

    “But do the CIA and/or Pentagon really care what Trump decides?”
    – You mean, the CIA and/or Pentagon will jump as high as the Lobby tell them to jump?

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  36. annamaria says:
    @Miro23

    The result of the western-engendered carnage in Syria was horrendous: at least 475,000 dead, 5 million Syrian refugees driven into exile in neighboring states (Turkey alone hosts three million), and another 6 million internally displaced. That is, some 11 million Syrians, or 61% of the population, driven from their homes into wretched living conditions and near famine.
     
    You can lay all this at the door of Israel, US Neo-cons and their Congressional and MSM collaborators + treasonous leaders like Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Same for the Iraq war (duck shoot) with its WMD lies and the MSM 9/11 trigger "Event".

    The US as an Israeli colony is a disaster for the people of Iraq, Libya and Syria and it's also the worst news for the 98% of Gentiles in the US who have now lost their country to these Zionist freaks.

    “The US as an Israeli colony is a disaster for the people of Iraq, Libya, and Syria…”
    Agree. A minor addition: The US as an Israeli colony is a disaster for the people of the US as well.

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  37. utu says:
    @Alden
    The brilliant Muslim civilization is a myth It never existed.

    The Arabs conquered the Middle East and blundered into the legacy of Egypt, Persia Mesopotamia, Greece Rome, and the Byzantine empire. Claiming the Muslim primitive Arabs created the legacy of those civilizations is like saying Walter Raleigh developed tobacco or the Spanish conquerors developed potatoes and corn.
    Iranians still resent the conquest of their ancient civilization by the barbarian primitive Arabs

    It took about 500 years but the Muslim Arabs destroyed those civilization. Morrish Spain? Every one of those great buildings, from architects and engineers to porters were built by European slaves.

    It was the numerous Christians and less numerous Jews who kept things going. The Turks wouldn't even hire Muslim Arabs for any kind of government positions in the Arab countries. They used local Christians, Jews and imported slave Europeans.

    I've read Bernard Lewis. He's outdated. For a long time in the 19th and early 20th century Jews wrote many of those books extolling the superiority of Muslim Jewish countries over us blue eyed barbarians. Lewis is one of those writers

    “in the 19th and early 20th century Jews wrote many of those books extolling the superiority of Muslim Jewish countries over us blue eyed barbarians”

    Correct. But in the 2nd half of 20 c. the winds of history shifted with the creation of state of Israel and Jewish historians decided to write the history anew in which Muslims were not so good anymore. Father of Netanyahu was one of them.

    Which Jewish historians do you want to believe?

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  38. annamaria says:
    @Greg Bacon
    To claim that Israel got Bush the Mad to back off from invading Syria because they were concerned about moderate head choppers being the only ones who would fill the power vacuum is laughable.

    Israel has supported these thugs many times with medical care, money, shelter in the stolen Golan and most importantly, their MSM buddies printing all those stories about how Assad must go.

    Israel had been directing its colony, the formerly free USA, to bust up Syria and murder Assad and that we have been faithfully trying to do, but that damned Putin got in the way, so sic the MSM on him and his buddy Trump.

    The illegal war against Syria is far from over, Israel is PO that Syria hasn't been destroyed and they will not take lightly some chump like Trump interfering with their plans.

    “Israel had been directing its colony, the formerly free USA, to bust up Syria and murder Assad and that we have been faithfully trying to do, but that damned Putin got in the way…”
    This is why the Russain Federation has been suffering the relentless barrage of demonization and economic sanctions, and this why Americans have been suffering the stupidity of the ziocon-promoted Russiangate.

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  39. annamaria says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Trumps word means nothing, and he never said a thing about the pentagram ending their support of isis aka al ciada, so this is much ado about nothing, the Zionists want war and war they shall have until Zionist Israel destroys America.

    Zionist Israel and the U.S. and Britain created isis aka al ciada and anyone who thinks they have given up on regime change and the greater Israel plan in the Mideast is sadly mistaken. America is under Zionist control.

    “…the Zionists want war and war they shall have until Zionist Israel destroys America.”

    True. The Jewish communities of the EU/US, UK must decide – now – whether they are with western civilization or with the mythological and barbarous dream of Eretz Israel. The US, UK, and EU have been a safe harbor for the majority of Jewish people for the last 50 years. However, the Jewish Lobby is not satisfied with such trifles as the peaceful life and security and it wants Eretz Israel; PNAC (ziocons’ manifest) has been used as an ideological guise.
    There were certain sane Germans who tried to stop Hitler and thus to save Germany. Some of them paid for the attempts with their lives. Where are the Jewish communities of the US, UK, and EU to stop the lunatics, all these Friends of Israel and AIPAC, these pushers towards a worldwide catastrophe? See the ziocon plan in Ukraine, which made the lives of many Jews there intolerable (welcome, neo-Nazi). What is next – the rise of antisemitism in the tolerant (for now) Europe and US?
    If MSM were the honest sources of information, the westerners would have seen already the thousands and thousands of little corpses, the victims of “humanitarian interventions” of NATO/US in Libya and Syria and would already demand to hang the main war profiteers /war criminals to prevent more carnage and more war-profiteering schems.
    The ongoing wars in the Middle EAst are an integral part of Eretz Israel project. Give Israel its due.

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    • Replies: @mr meener
    Hitler tried to save the white race and the west from the Bolshevik jews after seeing the mass slaughter they were doing in Russia. Hitler lost. therefore the white race will be genocided thru jewish controlled mass non white immigration. the jews tried to destroy the whites with the 2 world wars and the invasion of the west by non whites is the jews final solution
  40. annamaria says:
    @Che Guava
    You are so clearly a harmful propagandist on so many levels that I need not to pointing it out.

    I am knowing that you are to making one or two of good points at times, but only to draw to all of your lies and stupid assumptions.

    Essentially, to making EU= NATO=zionism is the great thing to you, hate Russia is your cause.

    Your 'Michael Kenny' is as much a pseudonym as mine. It is obvious. At least, when I am posting, it is from the heart of the person behind the pseudonym and of goodwill or to informing. Reading yours, it is very difficult to see any good intentions.

    Many others here are to having critical faculties. They also will be seeing you for what you are, just a nasty and cheap propagandist, with posts that are always being too long.

    Are you on some kind of 'net agent of influence programme? Sure is looking like it.

    Agree

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  41. annamaria says:
    @Bruce Marshall
    Where is the "Special Prosecutor" on this?

    Assange: 'CIA Not Only Armed Syria's Insurgents--It Paid Their Salaries'
    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57076

    This is great: “CIA not only armed Syria’s insurgents — it paid their salaries.”
    And who are these “insurgents” – the “moderate” jihadis affiliated with ISIS and Al Qaeda?
    The supposedly “manly” CIA director Mike Pompeo comes out as a banal opportunist inclined to hysterics.
    Pompeo, “No one has the right to engage in the theft of secrets from America!”
    Assange, “What sort of America can be “taken down” by the truth?”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/wikileaks-issues-response-cia-director-mike-pompeo

    “Pompeo and David B. Rivkin Jr., a senior fellow at the neoconservative think-tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies, argued in an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal that “Legal and bureaucratic impediments to surveillance should be removed.” Pompeo has also suggested that National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden should be executed.”

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/trumps-pro-torture-pro-israel-cia-chief

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    • Replies: @anon
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/tony-thomas-syria-secret-program-cia-240818

    Top general confirms end to secret U.S. program in Syria
    Special Operations commander walked back remarks that appeared to surprise the CIA. ASPEN — U.S. Special Operations Commander Tony Thomas confirmed Friday that the U.S. had ended its covert program aiding rebel groups fighting against Syrian President Bashar Assad, saying the decision was made after assessing the years-long operation’s capabilities and by no means an effort to curry favor with Assad’s chief backer, Moscow. The comments appeared to take the CIA — which declined to comment — by surprise.
    Thomas almost immediately tried to walk back his comments after leaving the stage, telling reporters he hadn’t confirmed anything and was referring only to “public reporting.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/tony-thomas-syria-secret-program-cia-240818
  42. annamaria says:
    @Michael Kenny
    As so often, the weakness of the argument is obvious in the first sentence: “Many Americans voted for Donald Trump because he vowed to end the foreign conflicts in which the US had become entangled”. I can’t say I recall any such vow. Trump is a master of doubletalk. He says everything and the contrary of everything. Mr Margolis, and others, heard what they wanted to hear and believed what they wanted to believe. Quite simply, they fell into the trap Trump set for them. Even if Trump wasn’t the most pro-Israel president in US history, the Israel Lobby is there to see that US foreign policy suits Israel’s interests. Israel sees Iran as its principal enemy. Putin has snuggled up to Iran and is propping up Iran’s “ally”, Assad. Israel thus needs to get both Assad and Putin out of Syria. By failing to stand up to Putin in Ukraine, Obama allowed him to discredit the US as Europe’s, and by extension, Israel’s protector and to discredit NATO as the instrument of that protection. For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe. Thus, Trump has to restore US and NATO credibility and the only way to do that is to get Putin out of Ukraine and, ideally, out of power. The simplest way to do that is to fight him in Syria, where he’s bogged down and cornered and cannot escape unless the US capitulates. Thus, arming or not arming this or that Syrian group is totally irrelevant. It just shows that the US can turn the heat up and down on Putin at will. I can’t imagine, therefore, why US neocons would be “furious”. The longer Putin is bogged down in Syria, the better. The last thing Trump needs is to have anything he does, whether in Syria or Ukraine, billed as a “retreat” in regard to Putin. That will simply inflame Russiagate.

    “For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe.”
    For obvious reasons, the sooner the US disengages from Israel, the better for the whole world.

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    Annamaria,

    Thanks for it. Interrupted by a friend and tired, am forgetting what else I was wanting to say, but your post 42 in this thread is very good.

    IMHO, as USA people say, that man is a three-dollar bill. I don't even know if it was common speech or made up by Phillip Kindred Dick, but 'phoney as a three-dollar bill', it is a great expression!
  43. @Greg Bacon
    For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe.

    Why should the USA defend Israel from its horrible choices, especially being an Apartheid nightmare?

    Why should we defend a nation that has attacked our ships, bases and personnel numerous times?

    Why should we defend a nation that has control of our economy thru their choke-hold on the FED and Treasury?

    Why should we defend a nation that acts like a spoiled child anytime it doesn't get it's way and goes on murderous rampages against the world's biggest concentration camp, Gaza?

    Why should we defend a nation that attacked us on 9/11, then had their MSM whores blame the Muslim world?

    http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch01_en.html

    Why should you? Because Jesus was a Jew… just kidding! But didn’t you utter something about a chockhold on the Fed and the Treasury? Well, it may just be me but if I controlled my bitch’s purse then she would be dancing to my tune too!

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    • Replies: @edNels
    how do you know that Jesus was any such thing? A Jew? Never!
  44. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Can he ????

    Here is one of the many views of this unstable man–

    How the Trump regime was manufactured by a war inside the Deep State
    A systemic crisis in the global Deep System has driven the violent radicalization of a Deep State faction
    By Nafeez Ahmed

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-trump-regime-was-manufactured-by-a-war-inside-the-deep-state-f9e757071c70

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  45. edNels says:

    Hillary Clinton was a ”candidate”, what planet?

    get it real Gomer… you’re in a different one of the many… possible universes..!! go figure! Gomer what I mean…

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  46. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @annamaria
    This is great: "CIA not only armed Syria's insurgents -- it paid their salaries."
    And who are these "insurgents" - the "moderate" jihadis affiliated with ISIS and Al Qaeda?
    The supposedly "manly" CIA director Mike Pompeo comes out as a banal opportunist inclined to hysterics.
    Pompeo, “No one has the right to engage in the theft of secrets from America!”
    Assange, "What sort of America can be "taken down" by the truth?"
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/wikileaks-issues-response-cia-director-mike-pompeo
    "Pompeo and David B. Rivkin Jr., a senior fellow at the neoconservative think-tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies, argued in an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal that “Legal and bureaucratic impediments to surveillance should be removed.” Pompeo has also suggested that National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden should be executed."
    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/trumps-pro-torture-pro-israel-cia-chief

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/tony-thomas-syria-secret-program-cia-240818

    Top general confirms end to secret U.S. program in Syria
    Special Operations commander walked back remarks that appeared to surprise the CIA. ASPEN — U.S. Special Operations Commander Tony Thomas confirmed Friday that the U.S. had ended its covert program aiding rebel groups fighting against Syrian President Bashar Assad, saying the decision was made after assessing the years-long operation’s capabilities and by no means an effort to curry favor with Assad’s chief backer, Moscow. The comments appeared to take the CIA — which declined to comment — by surprise.
    Thomas almost immediately tried to walk back his comments after leaving the stage, telling reporters he hadn’t confirmed anything and was referring only to “public reporting.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/tony-thomas-syria-secret-program-cia-240818

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Thank you for the interesting post.

    Here is a transcript of an interview with S. Lavrov (Russian foreign minister), which should provide a lot of educational moments for the US Congresspeople and WH press corps (known as the presstitute corps): http://www.mid.ru/en/press_service/video/-/asset_publisher/i6t41cq3VWP6/content/id/2821758

    Try to compare Lavrov with a typical US legislator, for example, with Maxine Waters, John McCain, and Chuck Schumer, who represent three main subgroups in the US Congress. The decades of "unnatural selection" in the US government have produced a collection of intellectual and moral pygmies, unfortunately.
    Lavrov has some pretty direct and well-deserved words for Obama. Thus, Lavrov compares Obama to a small kid unable to comprehend the responsibilities of his position of a President of the US.

  47. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @jilles dykstra
    The great thing resulting from the election of Trump is that it made quite clear how undemocratic the USA is, and how Israel influences, tries to determine, USA foreign policy.
    Trump and Putin agree on a partial cease fire in Syria, who objects ?: Netanyahu.
    What media continue accusing Trump on collusion with the enemy, Russia ?
    CNN, Washpost and NYT.
    I hope Trump survives the Cold Civil War.
    Kennedy did not.

    It won’t come to that right away. But it will come to that if Trump does not ultimately keep the pressure on the Assad regime, and if he ignores all the drumbeats (and survives the “impeachment”).

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  48. edNels says:
    @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Why should you? Because Jesus was a Jew... just kidding! But didn't you utter something about a chockhold on the Fed and the Treasury? Well, it may just be me but if I controlled my bitch's purse then she would be dancing to my tune too!

    how do you know that Jesus was any such thing? A Jew? Never!

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  49. annamaria says:
    @anon
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/tony-thomas-syria-secret-program-cia-240818

    Top general confirms end to secret U.S. program in Syria
    Special Operations commander walked back remarks that appeared to surprise the CIA. ASPEN — U.S. Special Operations Commander Tony Thomas confirmed Friday that the U.S. had ended its covert program aiding rebel groups fighting against Syrian President Bashar Assad, saying the decision was made after assessing the years-long operation’s capabilities and by no means an effort to curry favor with Assad’s chief backer, Moscow. The comments appeared to take the CIA — which declined to comment — by surprise.
    Thomas almost immediately tried to walk back his comments after leaving the stage, telling reporters he hadn’t confirmed anything and was referring only to “public reporting.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/tony-thomas-syria-secret-program-cia-240818

    Thank you for the interesting post.

    Here is a transcript of an interview with S. Lavrov (Russian foreign minister), which should provide a lot of educational moments for the US Congresspeople and WH press corps (known as the presstitute corps): http://www.mid.ru/en/press_service/video/-/asset_publisher/i6t41cq3VWP6/content/id/2821758

    Try to compare Lavrov with a typical US legislator, for example, with Maxine Waters, John McCain, and Chuck Schumer, who represent three main subgroups in the US Congress. The decades of “unnatural selection” in the US government have produced a collection of intellectual and moral pygmies, unfortunately.
    Lavrov has some pretty direct and well-deserved words for Obama. Thus, Lavrov compares Obama to a small kid unable to comprehend the responsibilities of his position of a President of the US.

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    • Replies: @Artemis
    I am absolutely staggered by the moronic questions that were put to this seasoned diplomat by the NBC "journalist"....
  50. Alden says:
    @utu
    "in the 19th and early 20th century Jews wrote many of those books extolling the superiority of Muslim Jewish countries over us blue eyed barbarians"

    Correct. But in the 2nd half of 20 c. the winds of history shifted with the creation of state of Israel and Jewish historians decided to write the history anew in which Muslims were not so good anymore. Father of Netanyahu was one of them.

    Which Jewish historians do you want to believe?

    I don’t believe any Jewish historians.

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  51. anon says: • Disclaimer

    WHATEVER happens, Syria will remain a backward, retarded, Muslim shithole with no freedom, democracy, respect for women, free speech or press and an all around dysfuntional Arab country.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "...dysfunctional Arab country."
    It is fun to observe how Israelis of Soviet extraction feel superior to other Israelis and to everybody else. Check the level of "democracy, respect for women, free speech or press" in Afghanistan in the 80-s and compare the facts with the disaster brought upon Afghani women by US warriors.
    Your bloodthirsty ideologues of Eretz Israel dream nothing more than creating the dysfunctional Arab countries next to Israel (see Oded Yinon plan); hence the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians of all ages in the Middle East. After this holocaust of Arabs, which was designed and promoted by Israelis and Israel-firsters in the US, your apartheid state of Israel will never recover morally. You are doomed.
  52. It it time for the Syrian “Madman’ to order another sarin gas attack against the innocent children?

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    It is so easy to spot a ziocon thirsty for the US resources, who is eager to see the US to waste the US limb&blood for the barbarious dream of Eretz Israel
    , @annamaria
    There are hundreds of thousands of innocent children that perished because of the ziocon project in the Middle East
  53. annamaria says:
    @dorkimundo
    It it time for the Syrian "Madman' to order another sarin gas attack against the innocent children?

    It is so easy to spot a ziocon thirsty for the US resources, who is eager to see the US to waste the US limb&blood for the barbarious dream of Eretz Israel

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  54. annamaria says:
    @dorkimundo
    It it time for the Syrian "Madman' to order another sarin gas attack against the innocent children?

    There are hundreds of thousands of innocent children that perished because of the ziocon project in the Middle East

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  55. annamaria says:
    @anon
    WHATEVER happens, Syria will remain a backward, retarded, Muslim shithole with no freedom, democracy, respect for women, free speech or press and an all around dysfuntional Arab country.

    “…dysfunctional Arab country.”
    It is fun to observe how Israelis of Soviet extraction feel superior to other Israelis and to everybody else. Check the level of “democracy, respect for women, free speech or press” in Afghanistan in the 80-s and compare the facts with the disaster brought upon Afghani women by US warriors.
    Your bloodthirsty ideologues of Eretz Israel dream nothing more than creating the dysfunctional Arab countries next to Israel (see Oded Yinon plan); hence the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians of all ages in the Middle East. After this holocaust of Arabs, which was designed and promoted by Israelis and Israel-firsters in the US, your apartheid state of Israel will never recover morally. You are doomed.

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  56. mr meener says:
    @annamaria
    "...the Zionists want war and war they shall have until Zionist Israel destroys America."

    True. The Jewish communities of the EU/US, UK must decide - now - whether they are with western civilization or with the mythological and barbarous dream of Eretz Israel. The US, UK, and EU have been a safe harbor for the majority of Jewish people for the last 50 years. However, the Jewish Lobby is not satisfied with such trifles as the peaceful life and security and it wants Eretz Israel; PNAC (ziocons' manifest) has been used as an ideological guise.
    There were certain sane Germans who tried to stop Hitler and thus to save Germany. Some of them paid for the attempts with their lives. Where are the Jewish communities of the US, UK, and EU to stop the lunatics, all these Friends of Israel and AIPAC, these pushers towards a worldwide catastrophe? See the ziocon plan in Ukraine, which made the lives of many Jews there intolerable (welcome, neo-Nazi). What is next - the rise of antisemitism in the tolerant (for now) Europe and US?
    If MSM were the honest sources of information, the westerners would have seen already the thousands and thousands of little corpses, the victims of "humanitarian interventions" of NATO/US in Libya and Syria and would already demand to hang the main war profiteers /war criminals to prevent more carnage and more war-profiteering schems.
    The ongoing wars in the Middle EAst are an integral part of Eretz Israel project. Give Israel its due.

    Hitler tried to save the white race and the west from the Bolshevik jews after seeing the mass slaughter they were doing in Russia. Hitler lost. therefore the white race will be genocided thru jewish controlled mass non white immigration. the jews tried to destroy the whites with the 2 world wars and the invasion of the west by non whites is the jews final solution

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  57. Gg Mo says:
    @RobinG
    Yes, Matthew Lee at Inner City Press (not to be confused with Matt Lee who covers the US State Dept.) is doing valuable work. As you say, covering neglected items at UN.

    He is the LAST Real Journalist at the UN pressers . Him today explain his oust of his office space at the UN and replacement by a FAKE “Egyptian” Newspaper.

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  58. Che Guava says:
    @annamaria
    "For obvious reasons of geography, there’s no way the US can defend Israel without the use of bases in Europe."
    For obvious reasons, the sooner the US disengages from Israel, the better for the whole world.

    Annamaria,

    Thanks for it. Interrupted by a friend and tired, am forgetting what else I was wanting to say, but your post 42 in this thread is very good.

    IMHO, as USA people say, that man is a three-dollar bill. I don’t even know if it was common speech or made up by Phillip Kindred Dick, but ‘phoney as a three-dollar bill’, it is a great expression!

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  59. Che Guava says:

    If its uname is ‘Dorkimundo’, in combo with the words, you can to be sure that it is a probably paid troll.

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  60. Artemis says:
    @annamaria
    Thank you for the interesting post.

    Here is a transcript of an interview with S. Lavrov (Russian foreign minister), which should provide a lot of educational moments for the US Congresspeople and WH press corps (known as the presstitute corps): http://www.mid.ru/en/press_service/video/-/asset_publisher/i6t41cq3VWP6/content/id/2821758

    Try to compare Lavrov with a typical US legislator, for example, with Maxine Waters, John McCain, and Chuck Schumer, who represent three main subgroups in the US Congress. The decades of "unnatural selection" in the US government have produced a collection of intellectual and moral pygmies, unfortunately.
    Lavrov has some pretty direct and well-deserved words for Obama. Thus, Lavrov compares Obama to a small kid unable to comprehend the responsibilities of his position of a President of the US.

    I am absolutely staggered by the moronic questions that were put to this seasoned diplomat by the NBC “journalist”….

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  61. RobinG says:
    @annamaria
    It is so easy to spot a ziocon thirsty for the US resources, who is eager to see the US to waste the US limb&blood for the barbarious dream of Eretz Israel

    Is it equally easy to spot sarcasm?

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  62. Sean says:
    @Alden
    The brilliant Muslim civilization is a myth It never existed.

    The Arabs conquered the Middle East and blundered into the legacy of Egypt, Persia Mesopotamia, Greece Rome, and the Byzantine empire. Claiming the Muslim primitive Arabs created the legacy of those civilizations is like saying Walter Raleigh developed tobacco or the Spanish conquerors developed potatoes and corn.
    Iranians still resent the conquest of their ancient civilization by the barbarian primitive Arabs

    It took about 500 years but the Muslim Arabs destroyed those civilization. Morrish Spain? Every one of those great buildings, from architects and engineers to porters were built by European slaves.

    It was the numerous Christians and less numerous Jews who kept things going. The Turks wouldn't even hire Muslim Arabs for any kind of government positions in the Arab countries. They used local Christians, Jews and imported slave Europeans.

    I've read Bernard Lewis. He's outdated. For a long time in the 19th and early 20th century Jews wrote many of those books extolling the superiority of Muslim Jewish countries over us blue eyed barbarians. Lewis is one of those writers

    My point is the Arabs have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot. Martin van Creveld says

    The aftermath of the war [WW1] saw the establishment of the colonies—which later developed into independent states—of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, the Gulf, and Trans-Jordan (as it then was). Saudi Arabia, which was never occupied by either Britain or France, became independent by default. [...]

    Since then the peace to end all peace, as it has been called, has remained the source of endless trouble. First the British had to cope with Arab uprisings in Palestine and, on a much larger scale, in Iraq. No sooner were those revolts suppressed than trouble broke out on the border between Trans Jordan and Saudi Arabia, an entirely artificial line on the map that the local tribes refused to respect. In 1927-29 it was the turn of the French to cope with what is still remembered as the Great Syrian Revolt. [...]

    How to account for all this trouble? Perhaps the most important answer is the extraordinary complexity of the region. A complexity which the new states, lacking firm roots in the population as they did, never succeeded in controlling. There are, of course, Egyptians and Syrians and Iraqis and Saudis and so forth. But there are also Israelis and Palestinians. And Arabs and Kurds. And Egyptian Muslims and Egyptian Copts. There are Sunnis and there are Shi’ites and there are Allawi’s, whom some do not recognize as Muslims at all …).

    The Kurds’ interminable revolts have had help from the US. but really you cannot say the US created the uprising of the Kurds against every state they reside in The last time the US helped Kurds and then abandoned them. Just like the Syrian rebels. Kurds never expected anything different as they have been dumped by the US before. Leaving their erstwhile allies to their fate is something America has a reputation for. So I would not get excited about the US doing it in Syria.

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    "...the Arabs have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot."

    When "Arabs" is replaced with "Jews", the statement could be from a book on the history of the Jewish Greek wars, "the Jews have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot:" http://www.onjewishmatters.com/the-jewish-greek-wars/

    As for Martin van Creveld, this supremacist barbarian has obtained his fame by promoting the Samson Option. " Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's The Gun and the Olive Branch (2003) as saying: " We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
    Very clear. Also explains the miserable role that the US is currently playing on the orders from the Lobby.

  63. annamaria says:
    @Sean
    My point is the Arabs have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot. Martin van Creveld says

    The aftermath of the war [WW1] saw the establishment of the colonies—which later developed into independent states—of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, the Gulf, and Trans-Jordan (as it then was). Saudi Arabia, which was never occupied by either Britain or France, became independent by default. [...]

    Since then the peace to end all peace, as it has been called, has remained the source of endless trouble. First the British had to cope with Arab uprisings in Palestine and, on a much larger scale, in Iraq. No sooner were those revolts suppressed than trouble broke out on the border between Trans Jordan and Saudi Arabia, an entirely artificial line on the map that the local tribes refused to respect. In 1927-29 it was the turn of the French to cope with what is still remembered as the Great Syrian Revolt. [...]

    How to account for all this trouble? Perhaps the most important answer is the extraordinary complexity of the region. A complexity which the new states, lacking firm roots in the population as they did, never succeeded in controlling. There are, of course, Egyptians and Syrians and Iraqis and Saudis and so forth. But there are also Israelis and Palestinians. And Arabs and Kurds. And Egyptian Muslims and Egyptian Copts. There are Sunnis and there are Shi’ites and there are Allawi’s, whom some do not recognize as Muslims at all ...).
     

    The Kurds' interminable revolts have had help from the US. but really you cannot say the US created the uprising of the Kurds against every state they reside in The last time the US helped Kurds and then abandoned them. Just like the Syrian rebels. Kurds never expected anything different as they have been dumped by the US before. Leaving their erstwhile allies to their fate is something America has a reputation for. So I would not get excited about the US doing it in Syria.

    “…the Arabs have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot.”

    When “Arabs” is replaced with “Jews”, the statement could be from a book on the history of the Jewish Greek wars, “the Jews have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot:” http://www.onjewishmatters.com/the-jewish-greek-wars/

    As for Martin van Creveld, this supremacist barbarian has obtained his fame by promoting the Samson Option. ” Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst’s The Gun and the Olive Branch (2003) as saying: ” We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
    Very clear. Also explains the miserable role that the US is currently playing on the orders from the Lobby.

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    Israel has no external threat, Syria was always a military minnow. Israel has an internal threat inasmuch the West Bank Arabs cannot be kept as they are.

    The US backs a two state solution and thus in the REALLY IMPORTANT THING America is NOT A TOOL OF ISRAEL.

    , @Dan Hayes
    annamaria,

    van Creveld also stated:

    "We have the capability of taking the world down with us. And I assure you that will happen before Israel goes down."

    Food for thought!
  64. @Che Guava
    If its uname is 'Dorkimundo', in combo with the words, you can to be sure that it is a probably paid troll.

    You can be sure that it, “was born Hungarian.”

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    Alright. thanks for the reply, I would guessimg not 'Hungarian' like Soros.

    Good humoured reply, that is always to beimg appreciated!

    I was so irritated by Refuvsky's bs, in a bad temper for that at the time.
  65. KA says:

    Trump is thinking of doing what Cheney did on the CIA. He is sidelining Tillerson and urging some handpicked guys to give him what he needs not to certify Iran when it is up for agin in 90 days .

    “A third source with intimate knowledge of that meeting said Steve Bannon, the White House chief strategist, and Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to the president, were particularly vocal, repeatedly asking Tillerson to explain the U.S. national security benefits of certification. “They repeatedly questioned Rex about why recertifying would be good for U.S. national security, and Rex was unable to answer,” the source said. http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/21/trump-assigns-white-house-team-to-target-iran-nuclear-deal-sidelining-state-department/

    It is not US interests . It is the fact that should guide Bannon , Gorka and Trump. Iran is still in the crosshairs

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  66. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @annamaria
    "...dysfunctional Arab country."
    It is fun to observe how Israelis of Soviet extraction feel superior to other Israelis and to everybody else. Check the level of "democracy, respect for women, free speech or press" in Afghanistan in the 80-s and compare the facts with the disaster brought upon Afghani women by US warriors.
    Your bloodthirsty ideologues of Eretz Israel dream nothing more than creating the dysfunctional Arab countries next to Israel (see Oded Yinon plan); hence the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians of all ages in the Middle East. After this holocaust of Arabs, which was designed and promoted by Israelis and Israel-firsters in the US, your apartheid state of Israel will never recover morally. You are doomed.

    Not Jewish moron.

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    Not Jewish
     
    even worse

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

    the only person arguably more repellant than John McBloodstain, and also not Jewish
  67. Rurik says: • Website
    @anon
    Not Jewish moron.

    Not Jewish

    even worse

    the only person arguably more repellant than John McBloodstain, and also not Jewish

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  68. zzzzzzz says:
    @Randal

    But this week a light flashed at the end of the tunnel.

    President Trump, according to numerous reliable Washington sources, has decided to end US arms supplies and logistics support to Syria’s jihadist rebels that have fuelled the bloody six-year conflict.
     
    That's fine, but the problem is that Trump's track record so far makes it impossible to give him unalloyed credit for this. At the moment it has to be counted as just another "up" moment in the rollercoaster ride that has been the Trump presidency so far. Will it foreshadow further moves towards sanity in foreign policy? Or will it just be followed by another literally stupid lurch back to the neocon-driven norm?

    Looked at optimistically, you can read it as a sign that the underlying sensibleness of the patriotic "America first" noninterventionist approach (as opposed to the usual Israel/Saudi first, or US-uber-alles militarism, or "humanitarian interventionism" approach) is finally prevailing, or at least as a sign of a reduction in the US regime drive towards direct confrontation of Russia.

    But looked at pessimistically, it's just an admission of the already obvious failure of one particular interventionist approach and its termination in favour of alternative approaches to the same ends, which will be followed by some idiocy such as another childish murder of Syrian conscripts when Trump is shown some more emotionally manipulative photographs.

    Time will tell.

    Trump knows how to brawl, but the Deep State knows how to box

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    "...but the Deep State knows how to box"
    Let's see: "What Are the Democrats Hiding?" http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/07/what-are-the-democrats-hiding-by-publius-tacitus.html
    "Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) demanded that Capitol Police Chief Matthew Verderosa return equipment belonging to her office that was seized as part of the investigation — or face “consequences.”
    Virtually no one [from MSM] is paying attention to the fact that a group of Pakistani muslims, working for a Jewish Congresswoman from Florida, had full computer access to a large number of Democrat Representatives. Most of the press is disinterested in pursuing this matter."
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/exclusive-fbi-seized-smashed-hard-drives-from-wasserman-schultz-it-aides-home/
    "FBI agents seized smashed computer hard drives from the home of Florida Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s information technology (IT) administrator, according to two sources with knowledge of the investigation. Pakistani-born Imran Awan, long-time right-hand IT aide to the former Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairwoman, has since desperately tried to get the hard drives back."
    This is not your phony Russia-gate or McCain-commissioned funny dossier on Trump. This is the documented “serious, potentially illegal, violations of the House IT network,” which is a case of a free access to classified information by a group of the proven blackmailers. Would this matter be treated with the same urgency of "patriotism" as the cases of Manning and Assange?
  69. annamaria says:
    @zzzzzzz
    Trump knows how to brawl, but the Deep State knows how to box

    “…but the Deep State knows how to box”
    Let’s see: “What Are the Democrats Hiding?” http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/07/what-are-the-democrats-hiding-by-publius-tacitus.html
    “Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) demanded that Capitol Police Chief Matthew Verderosa return equipment belonging to her office that was seized as part of the investigation — or face “consequences.”
    Virtually no one [from MSM] is paying attention to the fact that a group of Pakistani muslims, working for a Jewish Congresswoman from Florida, had full computer access to a large number of Democrat Representatives. Most of the press is disinterested in pursuing this matter.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/exclusive-fbi-seized-smashed-hard-drives-from-wasserman-schultz-it-aides-home/

    “FBI agents seized smashed computer hard drives from the home of Florida Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s information technology (IT) administrator, according to two sources with knowledge of the investigation. Pakistani-born Imran Awan, long-time right-hand IT aide to the former Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairwoman, has since desperately tried to get the hard drives back.”
    This is not your phony Russia-gate or McCain-commissioned funny dossier on Trump. This is the documented “serious, potentially illegal, violations of the House IT network,” which is a case of a free access to classified information by a group of the proven blackmailers. Would this matter be treated with the same urgency of “patriotism” as the cases of Manning and Assange?

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    "...free access to classified information by a group of the proven blackmailers."


    Sounds like you're talking about Debbie and the DNC.
  70. Sean says:
    @annamaria
    "...the Arabs have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot."

    When "Arabs" is replaced with "Jews", the statement could be from a book on the history of the Jewish Greek wars, "the Jews have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot:" http://www.onjewishmatters.com/the-jewish-greek-wars/

    As for Martin van Creveld, this supremacist barbarian has obtained his fame by promoting the Samson Option. " Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's The Gun and the Olive Branch (2003) as saying: " We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
    Very clear. Also explains the miserable role that the US is currently playing on the orders from the Lobby.

    Israel has no external threat, Syria was always a military minnow. Israel has an internal threat inasmuch the West Bank Arabs cannot be kept as they are.

    The US backs a two state solution and thus in the REALLY IMPORTANT THING America is NOT A TOOL OF ISRAEL.

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  71. RobinG says:
    @annamaria
    "...but the Deep State knows how to box"
    Let's see: "What Are the Democrats Hiding?" http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/07/what-are-the-democrats-hiding-by-publius-tacitus.html
    "Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) demanded that Capitol Police Chief Matthew Verderosa return equipment belonging to her office that was seized as part of the investigation — or face “consequences.”
    Virtually no one [from MSM] is paying attention to the fact that a group of Pakistani muslims, working for a Jewish Congresswoman from Florida, had full computer access to a large number of Democrat Representatives. Most of the press is disinterested in pursuing this matter."
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/exclusive-fbi-seized-smashed-hard-drives-from-wasserman-schultz-it-aides-home/
    "FBI agents seized smashed computer hard drives from the home of Florida Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s information technology (IT) administrator, according to two sources with knowledge of the investigation. Pakistani-born Imran Awan, long-time right-hand IT aide to the former Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairwoman, has since desperately tried to get the hard drives back."
    This is not your phony Russia-gate or McCain-commissioned funny dossier on Trump. This is the documented “serious, potentially illegal, violations of the House IT network,” which is a case of a free access to classified information by a group of the proven blackmailers. Would this matter be treated with the same urgency of "patriotism" as the cases of Manning and Assange?

    “…free access to classified information by a group of the proven blackmailers.”

    Sounds like you’re talking about Debbie and the DNC.

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  72. annamaria says:

    “Israel has no external threat”
    Israel simply wants a destruction of the functioning neighboring states to proceed with the creation of Eretz Israel. http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
    Not all Jewish people share this view of Eretz Israel but a certain aggressive and loud part of them does. The Likudniks are currently in power. Oded Yinon in his famous article “proceeds to analyze the weaknesses of Arab countries … concluding that Israel should aim to bring about the fragmentation of the Arab world into a mosaic of ethnic and confessional groupings. “Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation,” he argued, would prove to be advantageous to Israel in the short term. Ilan Peleg described it as “an authentic mirror of the thinking mode of the Israeli Right at the height of Begin’s rule.” Chomsky warned against complacency about these fringe ideas since, he argued: “(t)he entire history of Zionism and later that of Israel, particularly since 1967, is one of a gradual shift towards the positions of those formerly regarded as right-wing extremists.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan
    One could sympathize with the non-solvable situation for Israel, if not the horrors of the ongoing Middle Eastern wars that have been promoted by neo-& ziocons.

    https://www.washingtonreport.me/2015-june-july/neocons-and-the-israel-lobby-are-promoting-war-with-iran-as-they-once-did-with-iraq.html

    https://thinkprogress.org/the-architects-of-war-where-are-they-now-52ff022f9bfe

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  73. Che Guava says:
    @dorkimundo
    You can be sure that it, "was born Hungarian."

    Alright. thanks for the reply, I would guessimg not ‘Hungarian’ like Soros.

    Good humoured reply, that is always to beimg appreciated!

    I was so irritated by Refuvsky’s bs, in a bad temper for that at the time.

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  74. Ben Frank says:

    Is there any evidence that Assad is not the legitimate ruler of Syria?
    Or that Syria is better off now than before the civil war started?
    Those poor people deserve peace.

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  75. Dan Hayes says:
    @annamaria
    "...the Arabs have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot."

    When "Arabs" is replaced with "Jews", the statement could be from a book on the history of the Jewish Greek wars, "the Jews have never been easy to govern and they revolt a lot:" http://www.onjewishmatters.com/the-jewish-greek-wars/

    As for Martin van Creveld, this supremacist barbarian has obtained his fame by promoting the Samson Option. " Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's The Gun and the Olive Branch (2003) as saying: " We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
    Very clear. Also explains the miserable role that the US is currently playing on the orders from the Lobby.

    annamaria,

    van Creveld also stated:

    “We have the capability of taking the world down with us. And I assure you that will happen before Israel goes down.”

    Food for thought!

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  76. Tucker and Tulsi on Syria vs CIAria

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IGAXJNzPfU

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    It was Israel's active participation in the attempt at regime change in Syria, which has finished the undressing of the "most moral" state of Israel. Currently, the "chosen" are outraged that the CIA could scale down the US support for terrorists. https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/26/fear-and-trepidation-in-tel-aviv-is-israel-losing-the-syria-war/
    "Despite assurances to the contrary, Israel has always been involved in the Syria conflict. Israel’s repeated claims that “it maintains a policy of non-intervention in Syria’s civil war,” only fools US mainstream media. Not only was Israel involved in the war, it also played no role in the aid efforts, nor did it ever extend a helping hand to Syrian refugees. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have perished in the merciless war; many cities and villages were totally destroyed and millions of Syrians become refugees. While tiny and poor Lebanon has hosted over a million Syrian refugees, every country in the region and many nations around the world have hosted Syrian refugees, as well. Except Israel.
    Even a symbolic government proposal to host 100 Syrian orphans was eventually dropped." (-- Wait when the Lobby starts squeaking that mentioning this shameful fact is antisemitic.)

    Israel has major responsibility for the Syrian tragedy. Astonishingly, Israelis are planning to triple down on the support for ISIS & Co in Syria.
    "Since the start of the conflict, Israel wanted to appear as if in control of the situation, at least regarding the conflict in southwestern Syria. It bombed targets in Syria as it saw fit, and casually spoke of maintaining regular contacts with certain opposition groups. In recent comments before European officials, Netanyahu admitted to striking Iranian convoys in Syria [whcih is a sovereign state] "dozens of times.” But without a joint Israeli-US plan, Israel is now emerging as a weak party. Making that realization quite belatedly, Israel is becoming increasingly frustrated. ... Failing to obtain support from newly-elected President Donald Trump, Israel is now attempting to develop its own independent strategy. On June 18, the Wall Street Journal reported that Israel has been giving “secret aid” to Syrian rebels, in the form of “cash and humanitarian aid.” -- See the US taxpayers' money in actions ($3 billion this year only). The "war on terror" came down to the “cash and humanitarian aid" to terrorists, delivered by Israel directly from the US taxpayers pockets to Israel's favorite head-choppers.

  77. annamaria says:
    @Priss Factor
    Tucker and Tulsi on Syria vs CIAria

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IGAXJNzPfU

    It was Israel’s active participation in the attempt at regime change in Syria, which has finished the undressing of the “most moral” state of Israel. Currently, the “chosen” are outraged that the CIA could scale down the US support for terrorists. https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/26/fear-and-trepidation-in-tel-aviv-is-israel-losing-the-syria-war/
    “Despite assurances to the contrary, Israel has always been involved in the Syria conflict. Israel’s repeated claims that “it maintains a policy of non-intervention in Syria’s civil war,” only fools US mainstream media. Not only was Israel involved in the war, it also played no role in the aid efforts, nor did it ever extend a helping hand to Syrian refugees. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have perished in the merciless war; many cities and villages were totally destroyed and millions of Syrians become refugees. While tiny and poor Lebanon has hosted over a million Syrian refugees, every country in the region and many nations around the world have hosted Syrian refugees, as well. Except Israel.
    Even a symbolic government proposal to host 100 Syrian orphans was eventually dropped.” (– Wait when the Lobby starts squeaking that mentioning this shameful fact is antisemitic.)

    Israel has major responsibility for the Syrian tragedy. Astonishingly, Israelis are planning to triple down on the support for ISIS & Co in Syria.
    “Since the start of the conflict, Israel wanted to appear as if in control of the situation, at least regarding the conflict in southwestern Syria. It bombed targets in Syria as it saw fit, and casually spoke of maintaining regular contacts with certain opposition groups. In recent comments before European officials, Netanyahu admitted to striking Iranian convoys in Syria [whcih is a sovereign state] “dozens of times.” But without a joint Israeli-US plan, Israel is now emerging as a weak party. Making that realization quite belatedly, Israel is becoming increasingly frustrated. … Failing to obtain support from newly-elected President Donald Trump, Israel is now attempting to develop its own independent strategy. On June 18, the Wall Street Journal reported that Israel has been giving “secret aid” to Syrian rebels, in the form of “cash and humanitarian aid.” — See the US taxpayers’ money in actions ($3 billion this year only). The “war on terror” came down to the “cash and humanitarian aid” to terrorists, delivered by Israel directly from the US taxpayers pockets to Israel’s favorite head-choppers.

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