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It’s got to be either one of the stupidest acts that I can recall or a very wicked plan by Washington neocons to sabotage Korean peace talks.
How else to describe the decision by Big Brother USA and junior sidekick South Korea to stage major air force exercises on North Korea’s border. The prickly North Koreans had a fit, of course, as always when the US flexes its muscles on their borders. Continuing South and North Korean peace talks scheduled this week were cancelled by the furious North Koreans. The much ballyhooed Singapore summit between US President Donald Trump and North Korea’s Kim Jong-un is now threatened with cancellation or delay.
Who can blame the North Koreans for blowing their tops? As Trump administration mouthpieces were gabbing about peace and light, the US Air Force was getting ready to fly B-52 heavy bombers and F-22 Raptor stealth fighters around North Korea’s borders and missile-armed subs lurked at sea.
This provocation was the first of two major spring military exercises planned by the US and its reluctant South Korean satrap. In case North Korea failed to get the message, the second exercise is code-named ‘Maximum Thunder.’
And this right after Trump and his neocon minions reneged on the sensible nuclear treaty with Iran. In a policy one could call ‘eat sand and die,’ Trump demanded that Iran not only give up any and all nuclear capacity (Iran has no nukes), but also junk its non-nuclear armed medium range missiles, stop backing the Palestinians, Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthis in Yemen, roll over and be good, don’t do anything to upset Israel, and pull out of Syria. In short, a total surrender policy leading to future regime change. Hardly an encouragement for North Korea.
North Korea was right on target when it accused arch-neocon John Bolton of trying to sabotage the peace deal. In 2005-2006, Bolton served as the Bush administration’s ambassador to the UN. He established a tradition for the post of being anti-Muslim, pro-Israel and anti-Russian, a policy continued to this day by the current US UN rep, loud-mouthed neocon Nikki Haley.
In the 2005-2006 period, after years of negotiations, the US and North Korea were close to a nuclear/peace deal.
Enter John Bolton. He succeeded in sabotaging the US-North Korea deal. Why? Because Bolton, as an arch neocon, was fanatically pro-Israel and feared that North Korea might provide nuclear technology to Israel’s foes. As usual with the neocons, Israel’s interests came before those of the United States. Trump’s newly named Secretary of State, Michael Pompeo, is also an ardent neocon.
Last week, Bolton went onto US TV and actually suggested North Korea might follow the course set by Libya, of all places. Libya’s then ruler, Muammar Kadaffi, bought some nuclear equipment from Pakistan so he could hand it over to the US as a gesture of cooperation after the Bush administration invaded Iraq. The handover was done with much fanfare, then the US, France and Britain attacked Libya and overthrew Kadaffi. The hapless Libyan leader was eventually murdered by French agents.
Is this what Bolton has in mind for North Korea? The Northerners certainly seemed to think so. Some wondered if Bolton and perhaps Pompeo were trying to sabotage the North Korea deal. Or were at least being incredibly obtuse and belligerent. Was Trump involved in this intrigue? Hard to tell. But he can’t be happy. His minions and bootlickers are promoting Trump for the Nobel Prize – rather ahead of events.
Or was the US military rattling its sabers and trying to protect its huge investments in North Asia? The Pentagon takes a dim view of the proposed Korean nuclear accords. The burst of sweetness and light coming from Pyongyang just sounds too good to be true.
Veteran Korea observers, this writer included, find it hard to believe Kim Jong-un will give up his nuclear weapons, particularly after seeing Trump’s deceit in dealing with Iran and Kadaffi’s murder.
Speaking of de-nuclearization, why does North Korea not demand that the US get rid of its nuclear weapons based in South Korea, Okinawa, Guam and with the 7th Fleet? Many are targeted on North Korea. US nuclear weapons are based on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. Others are secretly based in Japan.
Why not demand the US pull out all its 28,500 troops in South Korea and some 2,000 military technicians at air bases? Conclusively halt those spring and fall military maneuvers that raise the threat of war. End the trade embargo of North Korea that amounts to high level economic warfare. Establish normal diplomatic relations.
Pyongyang has not even begun to raise these issues. Smiles and hugs are premature.
(Republished from EricMargolis.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. epnngg says:

    The US Empire has no desire for diplomacy and realistic concessions on both sides when it comes to North Korea. The US will attempt to have its way and its way only with NK. The great tragedy is, as long as the US remains entrenched on the Korean peninsula, North and South Korea cannot make the peace process work that is so long overdue their peoples.

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    Name a country that US has desire to deal with by diplomacy and realistic concessions on both sides!
    , @nagra
    China and Russia assured Kim
    USA is just about to take credit
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  2. melpeexxx says:

    Military industries are imbedded into major economies. North Korea and Iran keeps war profits churning. Same old story.

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    Military industries are imbedded into major economies. North Korea and Iran keeps war profits churning. Same old story.
     
    Indeed. The biggest lie was the manufacture of Iran into some 'real threat'.

    a) It is far too weak to do anything to the US. Its 8-year war with Iraq was as stalemate.
    b) Shiite Iranians are almost never found in any real Muslim terrorist attacks, particularly suicide bombings.

    The notion that it ever was a real threat to America is just a meme manufactured by the military industry.
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  3. Can you imagine the squealing from the “conservatives” if North Korea and Mexico ran some military exercises in the Gulf of Mexico?

    Iran sent a destroyer and a couple of supply ships into the Atlantic and I thought the “conservatives” were gonna have aneurysms.

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    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    I would say "neocons" is a better term, but your point is perfectly valid.
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  4. Crimson2 says:

    Hey, stupid, we’ve always done these exercises. Trump is desperate for any peace deal and NK is abusing him, forcing him to capitulate. Trump supporters were demanding a Nobel before any agreement was reached and now they want to blame some “deep state” conspiracy on what appears to be another failure. No one will buy that story.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    I thought that Trump campaigned on a border wall, much less immigration to the USA, withdrawal from foreign entanglements, and improving your seemingly run-down infrastructure.

    It seems that moving the embassy to Jerusalem was enough to gain much support from former opponents.

    Nothing much else.

    What a joke.
    , @wj
    You are about bat crap crazy dude. Trump desperate for any peace deal? The fat little Nork is defecating in his pants because he knows Trump is crazy and successful. It's pretty funny that you are talking of "deep state" conspiracy theories while you are pushing your own lunacy.
    , @WJ
    No president is ever allowed to cancel military exercises. It's in the Constitution. Once it is planned then Trump is completely and totally powerless to stop the military exercise with South Korea regardless.

    Makes sense to some people I suppose but calling someone stupid when you post a comment like that is a little pot calling the kettle black kind of thingy.
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  5. Biff says:

    Nothing that another school shooting can’t solve. The face of man be damned.

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  6. “Well Ollie,

    this is another fine mess you’ve gotten us into “

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    I think you mean Stanley, not Ollie.
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  7. Anonymous[989] • Disclaimer says:

    Who is really in control? The US seems like a country at war with itself. One minute, one decision, another minute, the opposite decision. Trump himself started out with promise but now follows the Jewish agenda to the letter.

    Could it be that the US power structure is completely split along the lines of MAGA vs. Zionists and everything the rest of the world experiences is secondary?

    My advice to Kim – keep the nukes, and try to eat less.

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  8. USA stupidities have long consequences.
    The British, experienced in ruling an empire, did not want outside interference in the Korean civil war.
    The list of USA stupidities is long, Philippines, Japan, China, South America, Iraq, Iran, Libia, Syria, two world wars.
    Peter Lowe, The Origins of the Korean War, London, 1986
    Barbara W. Tuchman, ‘Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911- 45’, New York, 1970, 1985
    William L. Neumann, ‘America encounters Japan, From Perry to MacArthur’, 1963, 1965, New York
    Charles Callan Tansill, ‘Amerika geht in den Krieg’, Stuttgart 1939 (America goes to War, 1938)
    Charles A. Beard, ‘President Roosevelt and the coming of the war 1941, A study in appearances and realities’, New Haven, 1948
    Roy Mottahedeh, ‘The Mantle of the Prophet, Religion and Politics in Iran’, Oxford, 1985, 2000
    Barbara Hinckley Sheldon Goldman, American Politics and Government, Glenview Ill.,1990
    Alan Friedman, ‘Spider’s Web, Bush, Saddam, Thatcher and the Decade of Deceit’, London, 1993
    There are more books I could mention, but this seems enough.
    The USA’s problem, as I see it, that, until now, foreign policy could be determined by internal political reasons.
    Trump’s problem, making clear that this is over.

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  9. padre says:
    @epnngg
    The US Empire has no desire for diplomacy and realistic concessions on both sides when it comes to North Korea. The US will attempt to have its way and its way only with NK. The great tragedy is, as long as the US remains entrenched on the Korean peninsula, North and South Korea cannot make the peace process work that is so long overdue their peoples.

    Name a country that US has desire to deal with by diplomacy and realistic concessions on both sides!

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    Err, Saudi Arabia?

    ... and for no concessions and a ridiculously slavish subordination of the U.S.A., Israel?
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  10. Jake says:

    Eric Margolis is one of the 2 or 3 best ‘mainstream’ published columnists in the country. He nails the nearly innumerable problems with Neocons about as well as can be done.

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  11. As Trump administration mouthpieces were gabbing about peace and light, the US Air Force was getting ready to fly B-52 heavy bombers and F-22 Raptor stealth fighters around North Korea’s borders and missile-armed subs lurked at sea.

    Yet it’s them Eye-rainianz what’s da threat to whirled peas.

    Hey Eric, perhaps instead of “gabbing,” you really meant “gabbling?”

    US foreign policy: Say one thing, do the opposite, piss on yer own citizens, blame it all on someone else, and laugh all the way to the bank.

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    Yet it’s them Eye-rainianz what’s da threat to whirled peas.
     
    Lately, U.S. foreign policy¹ seems to resemble whirled peas, whatever that is.

    Actually, I know what it is.

    Around 1980 or earlier, there was a popular bumper sticker that read Visualize World Peace.

    Not long thereafter, during the early Reagan years, some wag somewhere decided visualizing world peace wasn't really all that, and what the world -- or at least, California -- really needed was a bumper sticker that read Vizualize Whirled Peas. You can buy them still.

    It doesn't quite work because the final 's' sound in "peas" is voiced, where in "peace," it is not. And of course the idea of whirled peas is entirely nonsensical, but that was/is the point, after all.

    Indeed, creating an entirely homophonous pun was/is of little concern to the too-clever-by-half chaps who ordered up the new bumper stickers with the mangled pronunciation awesome message, creating new opportunities for conservatives to show their bumper sticker cleverness, and ridicule the idea of world peace.

    Bumper sticker trolls. Who knew?

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    ¹ U.S. Foreign Policy = What is the dumbest thing we could do right now?

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  12. Anonymous[426] • Disclaimer says:

    The sad fact is the American troops and nukes are staying in S. Korea to use as a cudgel against China. The tension, rhetoric and sanctions will continue; though, unless Trump and his war cabinet are criminally insane, no war will ensue that allows Kim’s forces to get in a punch. Needless American and S. Korean losses wouldn’t play well in the media, especially in an election year. Pre-emptive genocide on a vast scale (implying a nuclear attack), however, is always possible from the Americans and their “free world” vassals wouldn’t dare to criticise it, nor would the compliant American media. Not when we’ve been brainwashed to believe that American cities are N. Korean targets. Once an American military infestation occurs in a country it cannot be extirpated without killing the host, and the parasite is too deeply embedded in S. Korean tissue to be driven out or just walk away.

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  13. mike k says:

    The Empire never lets go of anything, it only wants MORE OF EVERYTHING.

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  14. dax2 says:

    The americans and their stooges have been conducting economic, financial and monetary war against the nokors, iranians for quite some time already.

    the animal trump and his animal warmongers love nokors and iranians because they do not have serious nuke weapons yet, and can be very profitably killed by the millions using tens of thousands of american bombs and missiles.

    as with the syrian situation, the russians cant be counted on reliably as they are selling tons of conventional weapons and make a lot of profits in prolonging wars like the americans. They also benefit from high oil prices induced by wars, and have a solid jew-powered deep state that like the american one doesnt like ordinary russians to account for greater wealth.

    the answer lies with china. it has competitive edges in all economic sectors, has a hundred million more geniuses than jews, and gets hurt a lot more in trade and financial wars.

    china just needs to sell 200 nuke icbms each to north korea, syria, iran, and serbia today. it will also have vastly improved trading expansion possibilities as all small nations will be delighted and would want to buy several hundred nuclear icbms that can destroy the united states, israel and england. the us-nato alliance will miserably fail against this aggressive kind of china.

    the power of the press belongs to one who has one. the power of true democracy lies in democratized and commoditized very easy access to all sorts of nuke missiles and bombs to kill imperial countries.

    the americans will howl in impotent animal fury, but all their stupid war and illegal sanction schemes will end in animal defeat.

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  15. The sabotaging of the talks with North Korea is right in line with the Zionist agenda to keep the Americans in a constant state of war fear hysteria as usual , whether in the ME or the Ukraine or Russia or China , the Zionists keep up an unrelenting drum beat of war hysteria to frighten us into submission to the goals of the Zionists.

    As Orwell said, War is peace, Ignorance is strength, and Freedom is slavery, and we are Oceania with unending wars and a police state gov and our Zionist overlords.

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  16. macilrae says:

    John Bolton does indeed present a quite ferocious image and I am sure the only thing that held him back from a military career was the possibility that, one day, he might have to fight.

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    He is not entirely alone in that.
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  17. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    There’s one nation that will benefit from the NK deal, as they have been playing footsies with the N. Koreans for some time. That nation is Israel.

    Trump the Schlump: Iran Nuclear Deal Is Bad; North Korean Nuclear Deal Is Good

    The only country that stands to benefit from this disjointed and hypocritical U.S. nuclear proliferation policy is Israel. It was the far-right government of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, aided and abetted by Israel’s wealthy American Jewish billionaire troika of political influence peddlers – Sheldon Adelson, Paul Singer, and Bernard Marcus – who, in the end, convinced Trump to trash the JCPOA. Trump’s two new additions to his national security and foreign policy team, Pompeo and National Security Adviser John Bolton, have long advocated blowing up the JCPOA, charging that Iran has been violating the deal. Nothing is further from the truth, as demonstrated by conclusive reports on Iran’s nuclear program from the International Atomic Energy Agency, Israel’s own Mossad intelligence service, and the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency..

    Israel’s clandestine links with North Korea date back to the operations of the Israel Corporation, which controlled Israel Aircraft Industries and Zim Israel Navigation Shipping Company. Eisenberg was the first Israeli to establish trading links with the People’s Republic of China, which eventually extended to North Korea and Khmer Rouge-controlled Cambodia. Eisenberg’s chief exports to China and North Korea were weapons. In the latter part of his life, Eisenberg was found more often in Beijing, where he died in 1997, than in Tel Aviv. As with Israel’s covert oil business with Iran, Eisenberg’s weapons sales to China and North Korea were handled by a shell corporation in Panama called United Development, Inc.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/05/17/trump-schlump-iran-nuclear-deal-bad-north-korean-nuclear-deal-good.html

    Wow, imagine that, our foreign policy being run by neoCONs and Zionists in service to Apartheid Israel.

    Those that know 9/11 was an Israeli masterminded False Flag will recall ZIM as the Israeli shipping outfit that broke their WTC lease–costing them over 50k–several weeks before 9/11 and got the hell out of Dodge, as if they knew something bad was going to happen.

    Gosh, what would the USA do without our good friend and ally Israel always stabbing us in the back?

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  18. Margolis seems like a pretty worldly, well connected guy. He should send the video of Ghaddafi being sodomized with a sharpened stick to Kim as a reminder of what can happen to him if he gives up his nuclear deterrent.

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  19. “North Korea was right on target when it accused arch-neocon John Bolton of trying to sabotage the peace deal. ”

    Bolton is merely the stalking horse in this particular scam. (It is for this kind of role that Bolton was picked in the first place). Apparently we’re to infer that orange clown really, really, really, really, really, really, really wants some kind of a peace deal with North Korea, just like he really, really, really, really, really, really, really wants better relations with Russia for example…alas there’s always a fly in the imperial ointment.

    In reality of course there was never any chance of a peace deal with North Korea, just like there was never any chance of a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, or a withdrawal from Syria, or cooperation with Russia (on anything), or a real investigation into 9/11, etc. Instead what we get is affectatious posturing by actors on a stage; “government” by diabolical jewish-supremacist-inspired dialectics.

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  20. Che Guava says:
    @padre
    Name a country that US has desire to deal with by diplomacy and realistic concessions on both sides!

    Err, Saudi Arabia?

    … and for no concessions and a ridiculously slavish subordination of the U.S.A., Israel?

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    Salman was supposed to have died in an assassination attempt almost one month ago.
    , @Escher
    The US-Saudi relationship is a mutually beneficial one for their ruling elites.
    The Saudis support the petrodollar, and the US military props up the odious Saudi regime.
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  21. dax2 says:
    @Che Guava
    Err, Saudi Arabia?

    ... and for no concessions and a ridiculously slavish subordination of the U.S.A., Israel?

    Salman was supposed to have died in an assassination attempt almost one month ago.

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    Sorry prince M of SA was supposed to have been shot and now strangely quiet.

    i was talking to salman the shawarma guy.
    , @Che Guava
    You are doing a good job, accidental reply to me, then yourself. I drank a strong coffee late last night, against my own rules, so little sleep, but still am easily amused.

    Salman or salmon?

    Frankly, dear, i don't give a damn,

    (-.-)Zzz・・・・
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  22. dax2 says:
    @dax2
    Salman was supposed to have died in an assassination attempt almost one month ago.

    Sorry prince M of SA was supposed to have been shot and now strangely quiet.

    i was talking to salman the shawarma guy.

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  23. Rogue says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    "Well Ollie,

    this is another fine mess you've gotten us into "

    I think you mean Stanley, not Ollie.

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    There are several versions of this comment. I did a eek online before i posted it, because I wasn't sure. But on looking it is apparently have been used both ways in various films though the wording is is not quite the same

    http://www.stanlaurelandoliverhardy.com/nicemess.htm

    But I have no issues ---- Iy is Oliver who states as noted more often. I areciate your observation and correction.

    The actual quotation is --

    "Oliver Hardy : (in the final shot, after being "skinned") " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
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  24. Logan says:

    Trump’s sand-kicking appears to have made more progress than some decades of other presidents trying to play nice with the Kims.

    Like everybody else, I have no idea how this will turn out, but it is intriguing that his very different approach at least appears to be more effective.

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    Hearing voices much? Talk to your psychiatrist.
    , @Herald
    North Korea has been trying to establish better relations with both SK and the US for decades. The US continuing to bully NK at this stage, will likely scupper any chance of negotiations, as is becoming all too clear. Bullying is a very bad habit and one that the US seems particularly loathe to break.
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  25. Ever since the fall of the USSR the US has no diplomacy worth the name. The US approach is always pure bullying: do what I say, or else. Naturally, any country or leader who is not ready for an unconditional surrender resists, and therefore is proclaimed a threat to the US. The US is the greatest threat to the US, like a monkey with a hand grenade. The worst thing is, in case of the US this hand grenade is nuclear.

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  26. @Logan
    Trump's sand-kicking appears to have made more progress than some decades of other presidents trying to play nice with the Kims.

    Like everybody else, I have no idea how this will turn out, but it is intriguing that his very different approach at least appears to be more effective.

    Hearing voices much? Talk to your psychiatrist.

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  27. Herald says:
    @Logan
    Trump's sand-kicking appears to have made more progress than some decades of other presidents trying to play nice with the Kims.

    Like everybody else, I have no idea how this will turn out, but it is intriguing that his very different approach at least appears to be more effective.

    North Korea has been trying to establish better relations with both SK and the US for decades. The US continuing to bully NK at this stage, will likely scupper any chance of negotiations, as is becoming all too clear. Bullying is a very bad habit and one that the US seems particularly loathe to break.

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  28. PJ London says:

    What is missing from the MSM analysis is that it was SK that initiated the peace talks with NK their happy accomplices.
    When the Orange Cockatoo started his threats and performance, SK who had heard similar from many previous Americans realised that this moron actually meant it. He could-would start bombingNK just to prove that his hands were bigger than Kim’s.
    SK knew that in the first two hours of the war at least one million SK citizens would die. The idea of having a nuclear wasteland 3 miles north of Seoul did not appeal greatly either.
    NK and SK have been willing to be at peace and to re-form a single Korea for the last 60 years, in fact it would never have split if not for the US fear of the ‘Domino Communists”.
    Now that reunification is possible US is excreting bullets, the whole Russia and China circle strategy is about to be kicked into touch for the foreseeable future. So Cheney Mk2 (commonly called Bolton) is sent to destroy any chance of peace breaking out. He did a masterful job. “Remember” he said to Kim “the last fool that gave up his Nukes was killed by having an AK47 inserted into his rear and tortured to death. His country is now a wasteland of slavery and US looting Mercenaries. So go ahead, make peace, see what it gets you.”
    In the USA, it is called ‘Diplomacy’.

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  29. Thomm says:
    @melpeexxx
    Military industries are imbedded into major economies. North Korea and Iran keeps war profits churning. Same old story.

    Military industries are imbedded into major economies. North Korea and Iran keeps war profits churning. Same old story.

    Indeed. The biggest lie was the manufacture of Iran into some ‘real threat’.

    a) It is far too weak to do anything to the US. Its 8-year war with Iraq was as stalemate.
    b) Shiite Iranians are almost never found in any real Muslim terrorist attacks, particularly suicide bombings.

    The notion that it ever was a real threat to America is just a meme manufactured by the military industry.

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  30. @Chris Mallory
    Can you imagine the squealing from the "conservatives" if North Korea and Mexico ran some military exercises in the Gulf of Mexico?

    Iran sent a destroyer and a couple of supply ships into the Atlantic and I thought the "conservatives" were gonna have aneurysms.

    I would say “neocons” is a better term, but your point is perfectly valid.

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  31. @Rogue
    I think you mean Stanley, not Ollie.

    There are several versions of this comment. I did a eek online before i posted it, because I wasn’t sure. But on looking it is apparently have been used both ways in various films though the wording is is not quite the same

    http://www.stanlaurelandoliverhardy.com/nicemess.htm

    But I have no issues —- Iy is Oliver who states as noted more often. I areciate your observation and correction.

    The actual quotation is –

    “Oliver Hardy : (in the final shot, after being “skinned”) ” Well, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten me into.”

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  32. Just a note: The US may have attempted to bully North Korea — there is little evidence that North Korea budged or was in any persuaded as to effect.

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  33. Che Guava says:
    @Crimson2
    Hey, stupid, we've always done these exercises. Trump is desperate for any peace deal and NK is abusing him, forcing him to capitulate. Trump supporters were demanding a Nobel before any agreement was reached and now they want to blame some "deep state" conspiracy on what appears to be another failure. No one will buy that story.

    I thought that Trump campaigned on a border wall, much less immigration to the USA, withdrawal from foreign entanglements, and improving your seemingly run-down infrastructure.

    It seems that moving the embassy to Jerusalem was enough to gain much support from former opponents.

    Nothing much else.

    What a joke.

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  34. Che Guava says:
    @dax2
    Salman was supposed to have died in an assassination attempt almost one month ago.

    You are doing a good job, accidental reply to me, then yourself. I drank a strong coffee late last night, against my own rules, so little sleep, but still am easily amused.

    Salman or salmon?

    Frankly, dear, i don’t give a damn,

    (-.-)Zzz・・・・

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  35. Taras77 says:

    “The US Empire has no desire for diplomacy and realistic concessions on both sides when it comes to North Korea. ”

    To state the obvious, empire has no desire for diplomacy (in the true sense of the word) with anyone period!

    The geniuses in dc have demonstrated over and over again that their idea of diplomacy is for the third party to concede everything prior to talks. It is complete capitualization.

    That is the story with the so-called diplomats in state. With bolt-on and trump, it is even worse, it must include complete humiliation of the opposing party and allies attempting to work something out constructively, e.g. south koreans.

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  36. wj says:
    @Crimson2
    Hey, stupid, we've always done these exercises. Trump is desperate for any peace deal and NK is abusing him, forcing him to capitulate. Trump supporters were demanding a Nobel before any agreement was reached and now they want to blame some "deep state" conspiracy on what appears to be another failure. No one will buy that story.

    You are about bat crap crazy dude. Trump desperate for any peace deal? The fat little Nork is defecating in his pants because he knows Trump is crazy and successful. It’s pretty funny that you are talking of “deep state” conspiracy theories while you are pushing your own lunacy.

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  37. Escher says:
    @Che Guava
    Err, Saudi Arabia?

    ... and for no concessions and a ridiculously slavish subordination of the U.S.A., Israel?

    The US-Saudi relationship is a mutually beneficial one for their ruling elites.
    The Saudis support the petrodollar, and the US military props up the odious Saudi regime.

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  38. @macilrae
    John Bolton does indeed present a quite ferocious image and I am sure the only thing that held him back from a military career was the possibility that, one day, he might have to fight.

    He is not entirely alone in that.

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  39. WJ says:
    @Crimson2
    Hey, stupid, we've always done these exercises. Trump is desperate for any peace deal and NK is abusing him, forcing him to capitulate. Trump supporters were demanding a Nobel before any agreement was reached and now they want to blame some "deep state" conspiracy on what appears to be another failure. No one will buy that story.

    No president is ever allowed to cancel military exercises. It’s in the Constitution. Once it is planned then Trump is completely and totally powerless to stop the military exercise with South Korea regardless.

    Makes sense to some people I suppose but calling someone stupid when you post a comment like that is a little pot calling the kettle black kind of thingy.

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  40. nagra says:
    @epnngg
    The US Empire has no desire for diplomacy and realistic concessions on both sides when it comes to North Korea. The US will attempt to have its way and its way only with NK. The great tragedy is, as long as the US remains entrenched on the Korean peninsula, North and South Korea cannot make the peace process work that is so long overdue their peoples.

    China and Russia assured Kim
    USA is just about to take credit

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  41. Sparkon says:
    @jacques sheete

    As Trump administration mouthpieces were gabbing about peace and light, the US Air Force was getting ready to fly B-52 heavy bombers and F-22 Raptor stealth fighters around North Korea’s borders and missile-armed subs lurked at sea.
     
    Yet it's them Eye-rainianz what's da threat to whirled peas.

    Hey Eric, perhaps instead of "gabbing," you really meant "gabbling?"

    US foreign policy: Say one thing, do the opposite, piss on yer own citizens, blame it all on someone else, and laugh all the way to the bank.

    Yet it’s them Eye-rainianz what’s da threat to whirled peas.

    Lately, U.S. foreign policy¹ seems to resemble whirled peas, whatever that is.

    Actually, I know what it is.

    Around 1980 or earlier, there was a popular bumper sticker that read Visualize World Peace.

    Not long thereafter, during the early Reagan years, some wag somewhere decided visualizing world peace wasn’t really all that, and what the world — or at least, California — really needed was a bumper sticker that read Vizualize Whirled Peas. You can buy them still.

    It doesn’t quite work because the final ‘s’ sound in “peas” is voiced, where in “peace,” it is not. And of course the idea of whirled peas is entirely nonsensical, but that was/is the point, after all.

    Indeed, creating an entirely homophonous pun was/is of little concern to the too-clever-by-half chaps who ordered up the new bumper stickers with the mangled pronunciation awesome message, creating new opportunities for conservatives to show their bumper sticker cleverness, and ridicule the idea of world peace.

    Bumper sticker trolls. Who knew?

    ——————————————-

    ¹ U.S. Foreign Policy = What is the dumbest thing we could do right now?

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  42. myself says:

    Don’t look now, but the President just cancelled the meeting with Kim Jong Un.

    As of right now, it’s officially off.

    What can I say, Donald J. Trump is . . . strange.

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