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    I expect the PRC government has a team of spooks and doctors whose main job is to monitor the Dalai Lama’s public appearances for indications concerning his health. The Dalai Lama’s April 8 visit to Tawang probably gave them something to chew on, because he didn’t look that good to me. He was mentally acute...
  • […] “How Sick Is the Dalai Lama?”. […]

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  • One of the very first English proverb I learned was,
    People who live in glass house shouldnt throw stones !

    Modi should stop playing the Tibet card cuz he is staying in a gigantic glass house. India’s ethnic conflicts make Tibet looks like child’s play.

    Two can play at this game.
    If Beijing decides to reciprocates, it has so many cards to play on
    Kashmir, Assam, Nagaland, Manipur, Tripuna, …..the Naxats, the Dalits etc etc.

    For the time being Beijing seem not interested to stoop to Delhi’s level
    , but if Modi goes too far in in its Tibet./Xinjiang destabilisation, then he shouldnt complains when Beijing decides to return the favor !

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  • I’ve met more than my share of famous people, just because I’ve lived mostly in big metropolises and hung around with journalists a lot. Among those encounters: one with His Holiness the Dalai Lama, back in 1984. I wrote up an account in a column back in 2003. Well, His Holiness is still among us...
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    Chickens are coming home to roost! Nixon (more like Henry) paved the way of good intentions and the Reagenites (and Bushites, Clintonites & Obamites) helped build upon it, the Chinese currency reserves with which, the Hegemon, is going forward to battle the Empire. Is it any wonder then, the robots in American universities are beating the drums of war against the ever isolated Dalai Lama at the behest of the Beast in Beijing... What prompted the Judeo-Christians to give up its rightful place in the world pecking order to a novice dilettante, notwithstanding the several thousand year old culture cliches? What prompted the 'Whites' to put 'Yellows' in charge after equally dominating Blacks, Browns, Reds and Grays (the people of Levant)? Why do they see the Orientals as the heir apparent? What say you, John Derbyshire?

    I think there is a combination of haughty decaying absent-mindedness (watch how haughtily any typical WASP yokel – bitch tend to behave towards Chinese locals in any Shanghai 5 star hotel) (they don’t dare acting in this way in the hallways of Moscow Kepinski), racial-sexual masochistic complex (30% or higher WASP JEW leftie whiety nerds don’t dare to so much as whisper when a Whitney ugly girl walk by, but deign to drool and flirt towards Yellow Asian chicks, all of whom they stupidly presumed to be Chinese), and techno economic fetish of a decaying Christian civilization which had some time ago morphed into a Marxist materialist soulless civilization, calling itself a democracy ( listen to how Fareed Zachariah drool over the lordly Chinese great economy). All three factors combined I am at times tempted to presume that the WASP race is indeed thoroughly depraved and self hating and hardly deserved of sympathy. ( Me I am a WASP educated Yellow who lives in Russia).

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  • I expect the PRC government has a team of spooks and doctors whose main job is to monitor the Dalai Lama’s public appearances for indications concerning his health. The Dalai Lama’s April 8 visit to Tawang probably gave them something to chew on, because he didn’t look that good to me. He was mentally acute...
  • @DB Cooper
    When I read the title I thought the author meant how morally degenerate is the Dalai Lama. Turns out he mean his physical health. I don't know whether the Dalai Lama is sick or not, but he definitely is a sick man, as in a morally degenerate man.

    Reminds me of the old one about the hungover guy phoning his boss on a Monday morning asking for sick leave…

    Boss: Come on, man, we’re short staffed here. We need you! How sick can you be?

    Employee: I’m lying here naked in my bed with my granny…

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  • @Anonymous White Male
    "I doubt the successor will carry anywhere near the current Dalai Lama’s prestige and authority."

    And yet, every time a Pope is elected, he does carry all the previous "Vicars of Christ"' prestige and authority, doesn't he? Organized, structured religious belief is a strong delusion among large populations. I don't think the Tibetans are any different in this.

    Pop carries all the previous “Vicars of Christ” prestige and authority because he was elected through the due process. The next Dalai Lama can carry previous Dalai Lama’ prestige and authority if he is elected through the due process. Mind you the due process of electing a Dalai Lama has to be approved and supervised by the Beijing authority as well as the elected candidate has be blessed by the Beijing authority in order to become a Dala Lama, this due process is hundreds years old ritual and as sacred as Jesus and Cross.

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  • @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    Why does he get so much attention? He's not the Buddhist Pope, he's the ethnarch of a state that will likely never be independent, who adopts a monk persona.


    Buddhism has no hierarchy.

    Tibet has always captured the popular imagination of many people, probably because of its distant isolation (both in culture and its difficult access) from the rest of the world. And I know that some Chinese hasbara will counter this by saying that Tibet had slavery, child abuse, etc, and thus had to be conquered by Mao.

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  • @Anon
    From your English I can tell you are a 'God-fearing' morally defunct evil 'puritan' who has been committing war crimes, crimes against peace and crimes against humanity since they can sail out of the Mediterranean Sea.

    From your geographical knowledge, I can tell you don’t know much about the Puritans.

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  • The Dalai Lama has declared he’s going to live to 90 (he’s now 82)

    Man I thought he was older, he seems to have been around for ever!

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  • Why does he get so much attention? He’s not the Buddhist Pope, he’s the ethnarch of a state that will likely never be independent, who adopts a monk persona.

    Buddhism has no hierarchy.

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    • Replies: @neutral
    Tibet has always captured the popular imagination of many people, probably because of its distant isolation (both in culture and its difficult access) from the rest of the world. And I know that some Chinese hasbara will counter this by saying that Tibet had slavery, child abuse, etc, and thus had to be conquered by Mao.
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  • @Anonymous White Male
    Well, how is he "morally degenerate"? Declaring an opinion is not the same as truth.

    He means Tibetan diaspora young men are encouraged to join the Indian army at 17 or 18, the same minimum ages for enlistment in every army in the world including ours. US 17 year olds can sign up but must wait until their 18th birthday to actually enter the military.

    England accepts 16 year olds in the army.

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  • @Escher
    From your Engrish I can tell you Chinese Hasbala.

    Chinese Hasbala? I thought only Japanese and Korean Hasbala post in Engrish?

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  • From your English I can tell you are a ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘puritan’ who has been committing war crimes, crimes against peace and crimes against humanity since they can sail out of the Mediterranean Sea.

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    From your geographical knowledge, I can tell you don't know much about the Puritans.
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  • @Daniel Chieh
    I'm at the point where I believe that all great men are also terrible men.

    Obviously, you need to redefine “great”. You’re safe with “very very big”. Any further is tricky.

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  • @neutral
    No doubt you are now going to explain how Mao was a very moral man, nothing like that morally degenerate Dalai Lama.

    Rather silly non-comparison. The DL, a CIA asset for 60 yrs, ruled a medieval fiefdom that condoned slavery, sodomy, pedophilia. Mao freed Tibet of this beast, though his own excesses cannot be excused. Still, I’d have thought that anyone the CIA endorsed had to be rotten – when did they ever back a good guy? Is the DL suffering from guilt?

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  • Prostate cancer is no big deal nowadays, the treatment is a bit of radiotherapy and then androgen blockers

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  • @Anonymous White Male
    Go for it. But, first I think you should read your links. The first goes to a site that has links about the Dalai Lama's consent going to another site that is in Spanish. The second really doesn't have anything that links the Dalai Lama to these actions. It is usually someone else that is quoted, often the DL's brother. Plus, it is from the CIA. They are notorious for evil.

    Claiming the DL is "morally degenerate" requires a series of acts that are well documented. Others have tried to point out that Nelson Mandela and MLK were "morally degenerate" as well. And there is more convincing proof for them, by the way.

    I’m at the point where I believe that all great men are also terrible men.

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    • Replies: @JGarbo
    Obviously, you need to redefine "great". You're safe with "very very big". Any further is tricky.
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  • @DB Cooper
    When I read the title I thought the author meant how morally degenerate is the Dalai Lama. Turns out he mean his physical health. I don't know whether the Dalai Lama is sick or not, but he definitely is a sick man, as in a morally degenerate man.

    Great comment

    BUT not…

    So he’s the most mentally sick– quiet man i ever seen, ;)

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  • @DB Cooper
    WikiLeak has revealed the DL has for years been sending orphans under his care to go to war against Pakistan for India. These are underage kids made into child soldiers who do not have choice of not going.

    http://transmissionsmedia.com/the-dark-side-of-dalai-lama/

    https://followersofdorjeshugden.com/wikileaks/

    There are other morally degenerate things too. If you are interested I can tell you more.

    Go for it. But, first I think you should read your links. The first goes to a site that has links about the Dalai Lama’s consent going to another site that is in Spanish. The second really doesn’t have anything that links the Dalai Lama to these actions. It is usually someone else that is quoted, often the DL’s brother. Plus, it is from the CIA. They are notorious for evil.

    Claiming the DL is “morally degenerate” requires a series of acts that are well documented. Others have tried to point out that Nelson Mandela and MLK were “morally degenerate” as well. And there is more convincing proof for them, by the way.

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    I'm at the point where I believe that all great men are also terrible men.
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  • @Anonymous White Male
    Well, how is he "morally degenerate"? Declaring an opinion is not the same as truth.

    WikiLeak has revealed the DL has for years been sending orphans under his care to go to war against Pakistan for India. These are underage kids made into child soldiers who do not have choice of not going.

    http://transmissionsmedia.com/the-dark-side-of-dalai-lama/

    https://followersofdorjeshugden.com/wikileaks/

    There are other morally degenerate things too. If you are interested I can tell you more.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous White Male
    Go for it. But, first I think you should read your links. The first goes to a site that has links about the Dalai Lama's consent going to another site that is in Spanish. The second really doesn't have anything that links the Dalai Lama to these actions. It is usually someone else that is quoted, often the DL's brother. Plus, it is from the CIA. They are notorious for evil.

    Claiming the DL is "morally degenerate" requires a series of acts that are well documented. Others have tried to point out that Nelson Mandela and MLK were "morally degenerate" as well. And there is more convincing proof for them, by the way.
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  • “I doubt the successor will carry anywhere near the current Dalai Lama’s prestige and authority.”

    And yet, every time a Pope is elected, he does carry all the previous “Vicars of Christ”‘ prestige and authority, doesn’t he? Organized, structured religious belief is a strong delusion among large populations. I don’t think the Tibetans are any different in this.

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    Pop carries all the previous "Vicars of Christ" prestige and authority because he was elected through the due process. The next Dalai Lama can carry previous Dalai Lama' prestige and authority if he is elected through the due process. Mind you the due process of electing a Dalai Lama has to be approved and supervised by the Beijing authority as well as the elected candidate has be blessed by the Beijing authority in order to become a Dala Lama, this due process is hundreds years old ritual and as sacred as Jesus and Cross.
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  • @DB Cooper
    Typical nonsense response. What does this have to do with Mao? Can they be both bad in a different way? Don't try to distract the issue.

    Well, how is he “morally degenerate”? Declaring an opinion is not the same as truth.

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    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    WikiLeak has revealed the DL has for years been sending orphans under his care to go to war against Pakistan for India. These are underage kids made into child soldiers who do not have choice of not going.

    http://transmissionsmedia.com/the-dark-side-of-dalai-lama/

    https://followersofdorjeshugden.com/wikileaks/

    There are other morally degenerate things too. If you are interested I can tell you more.
    , @Alden
    He means Tibetan diaspora young men are encouraged to join the Indian army at 17 or 18, the same minimum ages for enlistment in every army in the world including ours. US 17 year olds can sign up but must wait until their 18th birthday to actually enter the military.

    England accepts 16 year olds in the army.
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  • @neutral
    No doubt you are now going to explain how Mao was a very moral man, nothing like that morally degenerate Dalai Lama.

    Typical nonsense response. What does this have to do with Mao? Can they be both bad in a different way? Don’t try to distract the issue.

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    Well, how is he "morally degenerate"? Declaring an opinion is not the same as truth.
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  • Doesn’t “sick” mean good?

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  • @DB Cooper
    When I read the title I thought the author meant how morally degenerate is the Dalai Lama. Turns out he mean his physical health. I don't know whether the Dalai Lama is sick or not, but he definitely is a sick man, as in a morally degenerate man.

    No doubt you are now going to explain how Mao was a very moral man, nothing like that morally degenerate Dalai Lama.

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    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    Typical nonsense response. What does this have to do with Mao? Can they be both bad in a different way? Don't try to distract the issue.
    , @JGarbo
    Rather silly non-comparison. The DL, a CIA asset for 60 yrs, ruled a medieval fiefdom that condoned slavery, sodomy, pedophilia. Mao freed Tibet of this beast, though his own excesses cannot be excused. Still, I'd have thought that anyone the CIA endorsed had to be rotten - when did they ever back a good guy? Is the DL suffering from guilt?
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  • @DB Cooper
    When I read the title I thought the author meant how morally degenerate is the Dalai Lama. Turns out he mean his physical health. I don't know whether the Dalai Lama is sick or not, but he definitely is a sick man, as in a morally degenerate man.

    From your Engrish I can tell you Chinese Hasbala.

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    Chinese Hasbala? I thought only Japanese and Korean Hasbala post in Engrish?
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  • When I read the title I thought the author meant how morally degenerate is the Dalai Lama. Turns out he mean his physical health. I don’t know whether the Dalai Lama is sick or not, but he definitely is a sick man, as in a morally degenerate man.

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    From your Engrish I can tell you Chinese Hasbala.
    , @neutral
    No doubt you are now going to explain how Mao was a very moral man, nothing like that morally degenerate Dalai Lama.
    , @Santoculto
    Great comment

    BUT not...

    So he's the most mentally sick-- quiet man i ever seen, ;)
    , @Cortes
    Reminds me of the old one about the hungover guy phoning his boss on a Monday morning asking for sick leave...

    Boss: Come on, man, we're short staffed here. We need you! How sick can you be?

    Employee: I'm lying here naked in my bed with my granny...

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  • Yeah, it was Dalai Lama’s gelugpas that sold the country to the Mongols in exchange for the half Tibetan half Mongolian title of Dalai Lama. Everyone knows what happened afterwards with China and Mongolia. And Britain.

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  • I’ve met more than my share of famous people, just because I’ve lived mostly in big metropolises and hung around with journalists a lot. Among those encounters: one with His Holiness the Dalai Lama, back in 1984. I wrote up an account in a column back in 2003. Well, His Holiness is still among us...
  • @Melendwyr
    Oh, really?

    Can Chinese people websearch for the phrase "Tiananmen Square" or "Tiananmen Massacre" and not be blocked? Can they discuss and criticize the government's decisions openly? Can they practice the religions they wish do, or do churches need official government approval?

    Are you one of those people paid to post approving lies about the Chinese government online? Or are you foolish enough to do so for free?

    Are you one of those people paid to post approving lies about the Chinese government online? Or are you foolish enough to do so for free?

    The question you asked here proved my point in my earlier post. You too need to think about the question I asked Mr. DERBYSHIRE :” Have you ever considered what you learned about China and Tibet are also lies and fake news spread by the elite establishment with agendas “?

    Can Chinese people websearch for the phrase “Tiananmen Square” or “Tiananmen Massacre” and not be blocked?

    Probably not yet, I didn’t check this last time I went back to China. I wish that Chinese government does not block the internet, but given the situation, I understand the necessity for it. Considering Google and Fackbook start to filter “fake news” now, I hope you can understand why Chinese government has to do this.

    Can they discuss and criticize the government’s decisions openly?

    Yes. You can see this everywhere in Chinese social media.

    Can they practice the religions they wish do,

    Yes.

    or do churches need official government approval?

    True. Again, consider the situation in China and the power of church in the West, I agree with Chinese government on this.

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  • @ChineseMom
    Have you ever considered what you learned about China and Tibet are also lies and fake news spread by the elite establishment with agendas ?

    However, they also know that the Chinese government monitors its citizens, both at home and abroad, very closely. If you think privacy is an issue here in the age of Big Data, try imagining how much privacy there is for Chinese people, under a government unrestrained by any constitutional protections.

    If you’re a Chinese citizen, just for the authorities to know you were in the same room as the Dalai Lama could wreck your life. So even students who haven’t swallowed the ChiCom lies are rightly fearful.
     

    Well, if you were talking about China 40 years ago, I would say that you were right, but not anymore. China has changed so much in past 40 years that I don't think nowadays Chinese government monitors its citizens more than the US government does, neither Chinese citizens are more fearful of their government than Americans do. Many people who know both countries well would say that people in China have more freedom of speech than in the US because there is no political correctness in China to suppress people to express themselves.

    Oh, really?

    Can Chinese people websearch for the phrase “Tiananmen Square” or “Tiananmen Massacre” and not be blocked? Can they discuss and criticize the government’s decisions openly? Can they practice the religions they wish do, or do churches need official government approval?

    Are you one of those people paid to post approving lies about the Chinese government online? Or are you foolish enough to do so for free?

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    Are you one of those people paid to post approving lies about the Chinese government online? Or are you foolish enough to do so for free?
     
    The question you asked here proved my point in my earlier post. You too need to think about the question I asked Mr. DERBYSHIRE :" Have you ever considered what you learned about China and Tibet are also lies and fake news spread by the elite establishment with agendas "?

    Can Chinese people websearch for the phrase “Tiananmen Square” or “Tiananmen Massacre” and not be blocked?
     
    Probably not yet, I didn't check this last time I went back to China. I wish that Chinese government does not block the internet, but given the situation, I understand the necessity for it. Considering Google and Fackbook start to filter "fake news" now, I hope you can understand why Chinese government has to do this.

    Can they discuss and criticize the government’s decisions openly?
     

    Yes. You can see this everywhere in Chinese social media.

    Can they practice the religions they wish do,
     
    Yes.

    or do churches need official government approval?
     
    True. Again, consider the situation in China and the power of church in the West, I agree with Chinese government on this.
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  • Why are we issuing that many student visas? Our universities are a resource, a great educational resource. That resource should be for the benefit of our people.

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  • @AP

    Russian rock is far superior to Polish rock, sad to say. Many great bands starting with Kino and Akvarium in the 1980s, to DDT, Zemfira and others.
     
    And of course Krematoriy. But other than with DDT , who had very nice albums in the 2000s,there doesn't seem to have been much good Russian rock produced since the 90s.

    Yes, Krematoriy is great. I also have the same impression about Russian rock having really fallen off in the last decade, but maybe I’m just older?

    Dmitri Shagin and Mit’ki have made some great records, but that might not be “rock” music.

    Leningrad produced a classic record in 2003 – “Dlya Millionov” but that is a while back now.

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  • @Peter Akuleyev
    Germany/Austria consistently produce good bands. German New Wave may not be your thing, but in the 1990s the Hamburg scene produced some very cool bands - Blumfeld, Tocotronic, and Die Sterne. Toten Hosen and Die Ärtzte are both very good punk bands, the latter like Green Day but with clever lyrics. Austria has a young garage band called Wanda that is pretty good as well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xREl_68O-mw


    Russian rock is far superior to Polish rock, sad to say. Many great bands starting with Kino and Akvarium in the 1980s, to DDT, Zemfira and others.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KC-iscJtsI

    Russian rock is far superior to Polish rock, sad to say. Many great bands starting with Kino and Akvarium in the 1980s, to DDT, Zemfira and others.

    And of course Krematoriy. But other than with DDT , who had very nice albums in the 2000s,there doesn’t seem to have been much good Russian rock produced since the 90s.

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    Yes, Krematoriy is great. I also have the same impression about Russian rock having really fallen off in the last decade, but maybe I'm just older?

    Dmitri Shagin and Mit'ki have made some great records, but that might not be "rock" music.

    Leningrad produced a classic record in 2003 - "Dlya Millionov" but that is a while back now.
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  • I’m sure that Russians in the 1980s also thought that the USSR was eternal and indivisible… China’s hold on Tibet is no more natural or permanent than Russia’s hold on Ukraine.

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  • @Anon 2
    If you like Polish rock, you may want to try:

    1. "Noc Komety" by Budka Suflera (1980s)
    2. "Conceiving You" by Riverside (2000s)
    3. "Takie Tango" by Budka Suflera. This became an international
    hit. You might want to watch the Taiwanese version, "Takie Tango" by
    Power Station. Derb will love it!
    4. Polish death metal band Behemoth with Adam Darski
    5. "Długość dźwięku samotności" (Length of the sound of solitude)
    by Myslowitz. Janusz Kamiński, Polish cinematographer who has
    worked with Steven Spielberg on his major movies (Schindler's List, etc),
    loved the band so much, he collaborated with them on some of their
    videos.
    6. Any song by Monika Brodka. She was recently making videos in Britain
    7. "Litania" by Edyta Górniak from the Polish musical Metro that played
    on Broadway a few years ago

    In addition, the Polanders, being The Eternal Wanderers, like the Jews,
    emigrated to the United States, and contributed a ton of songs and musicians
    in the U.S. E.g.,

    1. Ray Manzarek of The Doors
    2. Bobby Vinton, 1960s crooner
    3. Pat Benatar, 1980s
    4. Basia, e.g., "Time and Tide" - famous in the late 1980s
    - early 1990s (born in Poland but her career was mostly in the U.S.)
    5. "They don't know" by Tracey Ullman, Polish-British singer and
    actress who also did a lot of TV work in the U.S. The video is, of course,
    famous for a cameo by Paul McCartney which catapulted her to fame
    in 1983 I think
    6. Musical "Hair" (1968) was created by a Polish-Italian duo James
    Rado (Radomski) and Jerome Ragni
    7. Michael Anthony (Sobolewski) Van Halen, Clem Burke (drummer, Blondie),
    Peter Cetera (singer, Chicago), John Curulewski (Styx), Gene Krupa (drummer),
    Liberace, Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi), John Rzeznik (Goo Goo Dolls), Matt
    Skiba (Blink 182), Cory Wells (Emil Lewandowski - Three Dog Night), and
    many others
    8. I shouldn't forget jazz musicians like Michal Urbaniak and Urszula Dudziak
    9. There is also an incredibly talented young Polish-American country and bluegrass
    singer from Texas who just won two Grammys. Her name is Sarah Jarosz.
    You should try her "Build me up from bones" or "Crazy"

    I just want to add one more song by Sarah Jarosz,
    “Come on up to the House” – Highly recommended.
    What a great vocalist she is!

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  • @Priss Factor
    Mana the Mexican rock band had some titanic songs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KlN9ujUw0s

    Polish Jazz scene is well-established worldwide. Maybe they see it a hip version of Polka.

    In the 90s, I used to listen to Polish-American radio station for music, and there was fair amount of decent rock songs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOAaBEeUy_I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsdo-kNp000

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3KKdkalL6I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTUa3qP76wk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFBBD1Eim1E

    The Italian Paolo Turci is something special

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb2v6aT07e0

    If you like Polish rock, you may want to try:

    1. “Noc Komety” by Budka Suflera (1980s)
    2. “Conceiving You” by Riverside (2000s)
    3. “Takie Tango” by Budka Suflera. This became an international
    hit. You might want to watch the Taiwanese version, “Takie Tango” by
    Power Station. Derb will love it!
    4. Polish death metal band Behemoth with Adam Darski
    5. “Długość dźwięku samotności” (Length of the sound of solitude)
    by Myslowitz. Janusz Kamiński, Polish cinematographer who has
    worked with Steven Spielberg on his major movies (Schindler’s List, etc),
    loved the band so much, he collaborated with them on some of their
    videos.
    6. Any song by Monika Brodka. She was recently making videos in Britain
    7. “Litania” by Edyta Górniak from the Polish musical Metro that played
    on Broadway a few years ago

    In addition, the Polanders, being The Eternal Wanderers, like the Jews,
    emigrated to the United States, and contributed a ton of songs and musicians
    in the U.S. E.g.,

    1. Ray Manzarek of The Doors
    2. Bobby Vinton, 1960s crooner
    3. Pat Benatar, 1980s
    4. Basia, e.g., “Time and Tide” – famous in the late 1980s
    - early 1990s (born in Poland but her career was mostly in the U.S.)
    5. “They don’t know” by Tracey Ullman, Polish-British singer and
    actress who also did a lot of TV work in the U.S. The video is, of course,
    famous for a cameo by Paul McCartney which catapulted her to fame
    in 1983 I think
    6. Musical “Hair” (1968) was created by a Polish-Italian duo James
    Rado (Radomski) and Jerome Ragni
    7. Michael Anthony (Sobolewski) Van Halen, Clem Burke (drummer, Blondie),
    Peter Cetera (singer, Chicago), John Curulewski (Styx), Gene Krupa (drummer),
    Liberace, Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi), John Rzeznik (Goo Goo Dolls), Matt
    Skiba (Blink 182), Cory Wells (Emil Lewandowski – Three Dog Night), and
    many others
    8. I shouldn’t forget jazz musicians like Michal Urbaniak and Urszula Dudziak
    9. There is also an incredibly talented young Polish-American country and bluegrass
    singer from Texas who just won two Grammys. Her name is Sarah Jarosz.
    You should try her “Build me up from bones” or “Crazy”

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    • Replies: @Anon 2
    I just want to add one more song by Sarah Jarosz,
    "Come on up to the House" - Highly recommended.
    What a great vocalist she is!
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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey Discard, we agree that it's not worth it for any money for Universities to take the people , for the sake of our country, but they are not doing it for the sake of our country - they are doing it for the money! So, money is indeed the reason this goes on. Does that clear it up?

    However, I disagree about the immigration of PC. We arguably* didn't invent PC here in the US, but we sure do it up bigly! If anything, the Chinese over here are becoming PC from watching the idiot box to learn English. See my earlier post, #8.

    I did not mean to imply that the Chinese are bringing PC to us, if I did. I will add that all foreigners that come here are being assimilated to PC through the schools and media. They will never become Americans when they are taught un-American ways from the time they set foot here.

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  • @ChineseMom
    Have you ever considered what you learned about China and Tibet are also lies and fake news spread by the elite establishment with agendas ?

    However, they also know that the Chinese government monitors its citizens, both at home and abroad, very closely. If you think privacy is an issue here in the age of Big Data, try imagining how much privacy there is for Chinese people, under a government unrestrained by any constitutional protections.

    If you’re a Chinese citizen, just for the authorities to know you were in the same room as the Dalai Lama could wreck your life. So even students who haven’t swallowed the ChiCom lies are rightly fearful.
     

    Well, if you were talking about China 40 years ago, I would say that you were right, but not anymore. China has changed so much in past 40 years that I don't think nowadays Chinese government monitors its citizens more than the US government does, neither Chinese citizens are more fearful of their government than Americans do. Many people who know both countries well would say that people in China have more freedom of speech than in the US because there is no political correctness in China to suppress people to express themselves.

    China has changed so much in past 40 years that I don’t think nowadays Chinese government monitors its citizens more than the US government does, neither Chinese citizens are more fearful of their government than Americans do.

    Americans always need to believe that they have the only free society that has ever existed. That’s why they have to dominate the world – to bring the blessings of American freedom and democracy to the rest of us (it goes without saying that freedom and democracy are entirely American inventions).

    America’s dislike of China is simply the fear of being overtaken by an economic rival but they have to turn it into a moral crusade, as they always do.

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  • Chickens are coming home to roost! Nixon (more like Henry) paved the way of good intentions and the Reagenites (and Bushites, Clintonites & Obamites) helped build upon it, the Chinese currency reserves with which, the Hegemon, is going forward to battle the Empire. Is it any wonder then, the robots in American universities are beating the drums of war against the ever isolated Dalai Lama at the behest of the Beast in Beijing… What prompted the Judeo-Christians to give up its rightful place in the world pecking order to a novice dilettante, notwithstanding the several thousand year old culture cliches? What prompted the ‘Whites’ to put ‘Yellows’ in charge after equally dominating Blacks, Browns, Reds and Grays (the people of Levant)? Why do they see the Orientals as the heir apparent? What say you, John Derbyshire?

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    I think there is a combination of haughty decaying absent-mindedness (watch how haughtily any typical WASP yokel - bitch tend to behave towards Chinese locals in any Shanghai 5 star hotel) (they don't dare acting in this way in the hallways of Moscow Kepinski), racial-sexual masochistic complex (30% or higher WASP JEW leftie whiety nerds don't dare to so much as whisper when a Whitney ugly girl walk by, but deign to drool and flirt towards Yellow Asian chicks, all of whom they stupidly presumed to be Chinese), and techno economic fetish of a decaying Christian civilization which had some time ago morphed into a Marxist materialist soulless civilization, calling itself a democracy ( listen to how Fareed Zachariah drool over the lordly Chinese great economy). All three factors combined I am at times tempted to presume that the WASP race is indeed thoroughly depraved and self hating and hardly deserved of sympathy. ( Me I am a WASP educated Yellow who lives in Russia).
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  • @Cloudbuster
    I guess all those "Free Tibet" stickers on the bumpers of Progressive's Priuses and Volvos are going to have to come off.

    Yeah, or they could get all entrepreneurial and s__t, and, instead of peeling them off and possibly ruining the bumper-cover paint, they could add another sticker to the right that says:

    en Coffee – http://www.commie-coffee.com
    Twitter #Zedong

    hahaha … get it, Pound Zedong (instead of Mao Zedong) … hey I’ll be here all week folks … try the free Tibetan coffee, along with your favorite whores-dee-voors.

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  • @FKA Max
    The New Kids: VICE News Tonight on HBO (Full Segment)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GlWcoKNHqQ

    Published on Feb 9, 2017

    The number of Chinese students enrolling at American secondary schools is on the rise--and if the success of the Wisconsin International Academy is any indication, it will grow exponentially in the years ahead. VICE News Tonight visits a former hotel in Milwaukee that is now home to 170 Chinese teenagers. They have left their families on the other side of the world to study for a better future in the American Midwest.

    http://www.unz.com/forum/white-students-unfair-advantage-in-admissions/#comment-1748458

    Harmonic Divergence: The Wealthy Are Dropping the Dalai Lama’s Name, Literally

    by Jamie Johnson July 19, 2011

    The maneuver reflects increasing concerns in the U.S. that emphatic public support for the Tibetan leader will alienate Chinese officials, and in turn jeopardize our strategic interests in the world’s fastest growing economy. Like the president, a rising number of international billionaires have begun to worry that backing the Dalai Lama could pose a risk to their personal wealth by potentially limiting access to lucrative markets in China. Years ago, before surging Asian industry became a force impossible to ignore, such fears were remote, if they existed at all, for the American super-rich. But now that the seat of financial power has started shifting eastward, patronage of the Dalai Lama can come at a considerable cost.
    [...]
    Sadly, China’s increasing sway over our economy compromises the Dalai Lama’s ability to attract wealthy American patrons. The opportunity to make money is something billionaires simply can’t resist—even if giving in to that persistent urge means shunning an enlightened spiritual guru.
     
    - http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/07/harmonic-divergence-wealthy-dropping-the-dalai-lamas-name-literally

    I guess all those “Free Tibet” stickers on the bumpers of Progressive’s Priuses and Volvos are going to have to come off.

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    Yeah, or they could get all entrepreneurial and s__t, and, instead of peeling them off and possibly ruining the bumper-cover paint, they could add another sticker to the right that says:

    en Coffee - www.commie-coffee.com
    Twitter #Zedong


    hahaha ... get it, Pound Zedong (instead of Mao Zedong) ... hey I'll be here all week folks ... try the free Tibetan coffee, along with your favorite whores-dee-voors.
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  • Have you ever considered what you learned about China and Tibet are also lies and fake news spread by the elite establishment with agendas ?

    However, they also know that the Chinese government monitors its citizens, both at home and abroad, very closely. If you think privacy is an issue here in the age of Big Data, try imagining how much privacy there is for Chinese people, under a government unrestrained by any constitutional protections.

    If you’re a Chinese citizen, just for the authorities to know you were in the same room as the Dalai Lama could wreck your life. So even students who haven’t swallowed the ChiCom lies are rightly fearful.

    Well, if you were talking about China 40 years ago, I would say that you were right, but not anymore. China has changed so much in past 40 years that I don’t think nowadays Chinese government monitors its citizens more than the US government does, neither Chinese citizens are more fearful of their government than Americans do. Many people who know both countries well would say that people in China have more freedom of speech than in the US because there is no political correctness in China to suppress people to express themselves.

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    • Replies: @dfordoom

    China has changed so much in past 40 years that I don’t think nowadays Chinese government monitors its citizens more than the US government does, neither Chinese citizens are more fearful of their government than Americans do.
     
    Americans always need to believe that they have the only free society that has ever existed. That's why they have to dominate the world - to bring the blessings of American freedom and democracy to the rest of us (it goes without saying that freedom and democracy are entirely American inventions).

    America's dislike of China is simply the fear of being overtaken by an economic rival but they have to turn it into a moral crusade, as they always do.
    , @Melendwyr
    Oh, really?

    Can Chinese people websearch for the phrase "Tiananmen Square" or "Tiananmen Massacre" and not be blocked? Can they discuss and criticize the government's decisions openly? Can they practice the religions they wish do, or do churches need official government approval?

    Are you one of those people paid to post approving lies about the Chinese government online? Or are you foolish enough to do so for free?
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  • @Priss Factor
    You're hard to please.

    But even you won't deny this classic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA259ZV8fjo

    Hahahaaa, that guy needs a good choreographer, is all. I’m sure he’ll improve.

    Elaine Benice, now she was beyond help:

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  • @Peter Akuleyev
    Germany/Austria consistently produce good bands. German New Wave may not be your thing, but in the 1990s the Hamburg scene produced some very cool bands - Blumfeld, Tocotronic, and Die Sterne. Toten Hosen and Die Ärtzte are both very good punk bands, the latter like Green Day but with clever lyrics. Austria has a young garage band called Wanda that is pretty good as well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xREl_68O-mw


    Russian rock is far superior to Polish rock, sad to say. Many great bands starting with Kino and Akvarium in the 1980s, to DDT, Zemfira and others.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KC-iscJtsI

    Peter, you and Priss may very well have some good tunes to listen to from those lands. The fact is, the amount of good rock made in the middle 1960′ through middle 1990′s in the English-speaking world – mostly US and England, with help from Australia’s AC/DC and Canada’s Rush is OVERWHELMING. I could literally and figuratively give you 10 band/artist names every day for a year with a discography of 20-50 good songs by each one.

    I don’t know how my link got munged overnight, but this is my take on the loudmouth Bono who would be a nobody were it not for The Edge, and my short selection of great music so far – multiple genres.

    Listen to these 4 and get back to me:

    (If nothing else, listen to Jerry place lead between 2:50 and 4:50 – can ANYONE else play like that?)

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  • @Discard
    The money doesn't matter. The 300,000 foreigners telling us what to do does. And the stealth immigration of PC Chinese, a new alien overclass, matters a great deal too.

    Hey Discard, we agree that it’s not worth it for any money for Universities to take the people , for the sake of our country, but they are not doing it for the sake of our country – they are doing it for the money! So, money is indeed the reason this goes on. Does that clear it up?

    However, I disagree about the immigration of PC. We arguably* didn’t invent PC here in the US, but we sure do it up bigly! If anything, the Chinese over here are becoming PC from watching the idiot box to learn English. See my earlier post, #8.

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    I did not mean to imply that the Chinese are bringing PC to us, if I did. I will add that all foreigners that come here are being assimilated to PC through the schools and media. They will never become Americans when they are taught un-American ways from the time they set foot here.
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  • @Rex Little
    If the foreign students are paying full tuition at a state university, doesn't that take some of the burden of supporting the place off the native taxpayers? Sounds like a win-win to me.

    The money doesn’t matter. The 300,000 foreigners telling us what to do does. And the stealth immigration of PC Chinese, a new alien overclass, matters a great deal too.

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    Hey Discard, we agree that it's not worth it for any money for Universities to take the people , for the sake of our country, but they are not doing it for the sake of our country - they are doing it for the money! So, money is indeed the reason this goes on. Does that clear it up?

    However, I disagree about the immigration of PC. We arguably* didn't invent PC here in the US, but we sure do it up bigly! If anything, the Chinese over here are becoming PC from watching the idiot box to learn English. See my earlier post, #8.
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  • @Priss Factor
    "Only the English-speaking world has ever made good rock music"

    Some Mexican and Polish rock are really good.

    Poles are also expert at Jazz.

    Germany/Austria consistently produce good bands. German New Wave may not be your thing, but in the 1990s the Hamburg scene produced some very cool bands – Blumfeld, Tocotronic, and Die Sterne. Toten Hosen and Die Ärtzte are both very good punk bands, the latter like Green Day but with clever lyrics. Austria has a young garage band called Wanda that is pretty good as well.

    Russian rock is far superior to Polish rock, sad to say. Many great bands starting with Kino and Akvarium in the 1980s, to DDT, Zemfira and others.

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    Peter, you and Priss may very well have some good tunes to listen to from those lands. The fact is, the amount of good rock made in the middle 1960' through middle 1990's in the English-speaking world - mostly US and England, with help from Australia's AC/DC and Canada's Rush is OVERWHELMING. I could literally and figuratively give you 10 band/artist names every day for a year with a discography of 20-50 good songs by each one.

    I don't know how my link got munged overnight, but this is my take on the loudmouth Bono who would be a nobody were it not for The Edge, and my short selection of great music so far - multiple genres.

    Listen to these 4 and get back to me:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V72qQhm12K8
    (If nothing else, listen to Jerry place lead between 2:50 and 4:50 - can ANYONE else play like that?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPv2bbCTAfw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0
    , @AP

    Russian rock is far superior to Polish rock, sad to say. Many great bands starting with Kino and Akvarium in the 1980s, to DDT, Zemfira and others.
     
    And of course Krematoriy. But other than with DDT , who had very nice albums in the 2000s,there doesn't seem to have been much good Russian rock produced since the 90s.
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  • Nobody in China ever hears anything about Tibet but the official line. They believe it

    It’s not just a PRC thing. Taiwanese Chinese feel the same way, or at least they did when I lived there 20 years ago. Tibet was, is and always will be part of China. Taiwanese maps of China still showed Mongolia as part of China, and I swear I once saw a map in Taiwan that showed Vietnam as a Chinese province.

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  • @Jason Liu
    Derb, what part of Beijing's coverage about Tibet do you consider a lie?

    Most Chinese, even ones living in China, support their policies because separatism is seen as a way to divide and undermine the country, not because they believe everything is wonderful in Tibet, or even that the Dalai Lama is an evil man. It's called nationalism.

    Most Chinese, even ones living in China, support their policies because separatism is seen as a way to divide and undermine the country, not because they believe everything is wonderful in Tibet, or even that the Dalai Lama is an evil man. It’s called nationalism.

    I don’t have a problem with China’s policies on this issue. China’s claim to Tibet seems to be just as respectable as the US claim to Hawaii. Or California for that matter. It’s China’s business.

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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    I'm sorry to disagree on the Mexican songs, Mr. Factor. I think the first one has neither a great tune nor a good "sound" at all - I eventually fast-forwarded to see if the girl in the video would take off the rest of her clothes. (Spoiler alert, I'm still here in front of the keyboard ;-}

    The 2nd one sounds like a U-2 knock-off without The Edge - you <a href="http://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=163">absolutely, positively must have The Edge if you're gonna be U-2.

    I am listening to the 1st Polish one now, I first thought I should listen to it backwards (Reverse Polish Notation, and all), but it sounds pretty good. I'll listen to the rest tomorrow.

    Have a good night and thanks.

    You’re hard to please.

    But even you won’t deny this classic.

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    Hahahaaa, that guy needs a good choreographer, is all. I'm sure he'll improve.

    Elaine Benice, now she was beyond help:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQu_NLRvULM
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  • @Priss Factor
    Mana the Mexican rock band had some titanic songs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KlN9ujUw0s

    Polish Jazz scene is well-established worldwide. Maybe they see it a hip version of Polka.

    In the 90s, I used to listen to Polish-American radio station for music, and there was fair amount of decent rock songs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOAaBEeUy_I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsdo-kNp000

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3KKdkalL6I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTUa3qP76wk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFBBD1Eim1E

    The Italian Paolo Turci is something special

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb2v6aT07e0

    I’m sorry to disagree on the Mexican songs, Mr. Factor. I think the first one has neither a great tune nor a good “sound” at all – I eventually fast-forwarded to see if the girl in the video would take off the rest of her clothes. (Spoiler alert, I’m still here in front of the keyboard ;-}

    The 2nd one sounds like a U-2 knock-off without The Edge – you <a title=”"http://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=163&quot;http://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=163&quot;>absolutely, positively must have The Edge if you’re gonna be U-2.

    I am listening to the 1st Polish one now, I first thought I should listen to it backwards (Reverse Polish Notation, and all), but it sounds pretty good. I’ll listen to the rest tomorrow.

    Have a good night and thanks.

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    You're hard to please.

    But even you won't deny this classic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA259ZV8fjo
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  • Derb, what part of Beijing’s coverage about Tibet do you consider a lie?

    Most Chinese, even ones living in China, support their policies because separatism is seen as a way to divide and undermine the country, not because they believe everything is wonderful in Tibet, or even that the Dalai Lama is an evil man. It’s called nationalism.

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    • Replies: @dfordoom

    Most Chinese, even ones living in China, support their policies because separatism is seen as a way to divide and undermine the country, not because they believe everything is wonderful in Tibet, or even that the Dalai Lama is an evil man. It’s called nationalism.
     
    I don't have a problem with China's policies on this issue. China's claim to Tibet seems to be just as respectable as the US claim to Hawaii. Or California for that matter. It's China's business.
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  • Me, myself and …

    [an]jools**

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  • The Chinese really do excel at anything, once they put their minds to it: piano and violin, math contests, the SAT… Why should mastering the language of SJWism be any different?

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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    I'm all ears if you've got a few links.

    Please, please don't bring up 99 Luft Balloons by Nena on behalf of the German contingent of rock-and-rollers. It's just too early in the day for that.

    Mana the Mexican rock band had some titanic songs.

    Polish Jazz scene is well-established worldwide. Maybe they see it a hip version of Polka.

    In the 90s, I used to listen to Polish-American radio station for music, and there was fair amount of decent rock songs.

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    The Italian Paolo Turci is something special

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    I'm sorry to disagree on the Mexican songs, Mr. Factor. I think the first one has neither a great tune nor a good "sound" at all - I eventually fast-forwarded to see if the girl in the video would take off the rest of her clothes. (Spoiler alert, I'm still here in front of the keyboard ;-}

    The 2nd one sounds like a U-2 knock-off without The Edge - you <a href="http://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=163">absolutely, positively must have The Edge if you're gonna be U-2.

    I am listening to the 1st Polish one now, I first thought I should listen to it backwards (Reverse Polish Notation, and all), but it sounds pretty good. I'll listen to the rest tomorrow.

    Have a good night and thanks.
    , @Anon 2
    If you like Polish rock, you may want to try:

    1. "Noc Komety" by Budka Suflera (1980s)
    2. "Conceiving You" by Riverside (2000s)
    3. "Takie Tango" by Budka Suflera. This became an international
    hit. You might want to watch the Taiwanese version, "Takie Tango" by
    Power Station. Derb will love it!
    4. Polish death metal band Behemoth with Adam Darski
    5. "Długość dźwięku samotności" (Length of the sound of solitude)
    by Myslowitz. Janusz Kamiński, Polish cinematographer who has
    worked with Steven Spielberg on his major movies (Schindler's List, etc),
    loved the band so much, he collaborated with them on some of their
    videos.
    6. Any song by Monika Brodka. She was recently making videos in Britain
    7. "Litania" by Edyta Górniak from the Polish musical Metro that played
    on Broadway a few years ago

    In addition, the Polanders, being The Eternal Wanderers, like the Jews,
    emigrated to the United States, and contributed a ton of songs and musicians
    in the U.S. E.g.,

    1. Ray Manzarek of The Doors
    2. Bobby Vinton, 1960s crooner
    3. Pat Benatar, 1980s
    4. Basia, e.g., "Time and Tide" - famous in the late 1980s
    - early 1990s (born in Poland but her career was mostly in the U.S.)
    5. "They don't know" by Tracey Ullman, Polish-British singer and
    actress who also did a lot of TV work in the U.S. The video is, of course,
    famous for a cameo by Paul McCartney which catapulted her to fame
    in 1983 I think
    6. Musical "Hair" (1968) was created by a Polish-Italian duo James
    Rado (Radomski) and Jerome Ragni
    7. Michael Anthony (Sobolewski) Van Halen, Clem Burke (drummer, Blondie),
    Peter Cetera (singer, Chicago), John Curulewski (Styx), Gene Krupa (drummer),
    Liberace, Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi), John Rzeznik (Goo Goo Dolls), Matt
    Skiba (Blink 182), Cory Wells (Emil Lewandowski - Three Dog Night), and
    many others
    8. I shouldn't forget jazz musicians like Michal Urbaniak and Urszula Dudziak
    9. There is also an incredibly talented young Polish-American country and bluegrass
    singer from Texas who just won two Grammys. Her name is Sarah Jarosz.
    You should try her "Build me up from bones" or "Crazy"
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  • My prediction is that PC will eventually dissolve into incoherent mush–it’s in the process of doing so already–with the result that the SJWs who spew this crap will marginalize themselves out of existence.

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  • @Priss Factor
    "Only the English-speaking world has ever made good rock music"

    Some Mexican and Polish rock are really good.

    Poles are also expert at Jazz.

    I’m all ears if you’ve got a few links.

    Please, please don’t bring up 99 Luft Balloons by Nena on behalf of the German contingent of rock-and-rollers. It’s just too early in the day for that.

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    Mana the Mexican rock band had some titanic songs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KlN9ujUw0s

    Polish Jazz scene is well-established worldwide. Maybe they see it a hip version of Polka.

    In the 90s, I used to listen to Polish-American radio station for music, and there was fair amount of decent rock songs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOAaBEeUy_I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsdo-kNp000

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3KKdkalL6I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTUa3qP76wk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFBBD1Eim1E

    The Italian Paolo Turci is something special

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb2v6aT07e0
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  • If the foreign students are paying full tuition at a state university, doesn’t that take some of the burden of supporting the place off the native taxpayers? Sounds like a win-win to me.

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    • Replies: @Discard
    The money doesn't matter. The 300,000 foreigners telling us what to do does. And the stealth immigration of PC Chinese, a new alien overclass, matters a great deal too.
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  • @anonymous
    How many of these students are doing this because the Chinese government is telling them to do so? After all, most will be going back and have to face scrutiny as well as be worried about their career prospects not to mention the well-being of their family members. They're not necessarily free agents.

    “How many of these students are doing this because the Chinese government is telling them to do so?”

    Even overseas Chinese don’t care about Tibetans.

    But then, do Americans care about Palestinians?

    Money makes BS talk.

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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    Very good post, Mr. Derbyshire - I see you got around to the real reason, the money. Your post is more of a comprehensive article about this subject than Mr. Sailer's one a few days back, but you've read the comments on that one - so, as the Rusbo's people say: DITTO.

    Just more about China, though. I have ahem, family, from China, and the pop music now seems to try to resemble soul music and modern American pop, and I hate to say this, but if this is the way it's gonna go, then BRING BACK DISCO! Your cutie notwithstanding, their music truly sucks, and that goes back past the time of Confucius. In my politically correct opinion Only the English-speaking world has ever made good rock music, and come to think of it, of course the only good country (gotta go back before 1990) and blue-grass, and ....

    More importantly though, I defer to Cntrl-V of my comment from Sailer's post:

    Some of the 100,000′s of Chinese students plan on staying here (whether legally or not), but of the ones who don’t but whose parents think it is the biggest deal to get a piece of paper from an American university, they will eventually be sorry they bothered. Reputations take a long time to change and haven’t caught up to reality
     
    I'll add to this in a minute.

    “Only the English-speaking world has ever made good rock music”

    Some Mexican and Polish rock are really good.

    Poles are also expert at Jazz.

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    I'm all ears if you've got a few links.

    Please, please don't bring up 99 Luft Balloons by Nena on behalf of the German contingent of rock-and-rollers. It's just too early in the day for that.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    Germany/Austria consistently produce good bands. German New Wave may not be your thing, but in the 1990s the Hamburg scene produced some very cool bands - Blumfeld, Tocotronic, and Die Sterne. Toten Hosen and Die Ärtzte are both very good punk bands, the latter like Green Day but with clever lyrics. Austria has a young garage band called Wanda that is pretty good as well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xREl_68O-mw


    Russian rock is far superior to Polish rock, sad to say. Many great bands starting with Kino and Akvarium in the 1980s, to DDT, Zemfira and others.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KC-iscJtsI
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  • “Getting woke” must be the worst verbal tic to appear in some time.

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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    How many of these students are doing this because the Chinese government is telling them to do so? After all, most will be going back and have to face scrutiny as well as be worried about their career prospects not to mention the well-being of their family members. They’re not necessarily free agents.

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    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    "How many of these students are doing this because the Chinese government is telling them to do so?"

    Even overseas Chinese don't care about Tibetans.

    But then, do Americans care about Palestinians?

    Money makes BS talk.
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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    Very good post, Mr. Derbyshire - I see you got around to the real reason, the money. Your post is more of a comprehensive article about this subject than Mr. Sailer's one a few days back, but you've read the comments on that one - so, as the Rusbo's people say: DITTO.

    Just more about China, though. I have ahem, family, from China, and the pop music now seems to try to resemble soul music and modern American pop, and I hate to say this, but if this is the way it's gonna go, then BRING BACK DISCO! Your cutie notwithstanding, their music truly sucks, and that goes back past the time of Confucius. In my politically correct opinion Only the English-speaking world has ever made good rock music, and come to think of it, of course the only good country (gotta go back before 1990) and blue-grass, and ....

    More importantly though, I defer to Cntrl-V of my comment from Sailer's post:

    Some of the 100,000′s of Chinese students plan on staying here (whether legally or not), but of the ones who don’t but whose parents think it is the biggest deal to get a piece of paper from an American university, they will eventually be sorry they bothered. Reputations take a long time to change and haven’t caught up to reality
     
    I'll add to this in a minute.

    Dang, checked my link to the post on Confucius. This one is what I meant. Sorry about that.

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  • I’d like to see a rule that money that comes from the government CANNOT be used to subsidize grad students, unless they are US citizens.

    If there is a genius for the ages out there, just dying to do grad work in the US…

    Then I’m sure the University can pay the Chancellor or the football coach a little less.

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  • I remember now my other point, John, about the privacy thing.

    In the late oughts, I felt quite a bit freer in China than I do here. I opened a beer (had gotten it in 1st class, and I don’t like to waste) at 8 AM just outside the Chinese version of the TSA, and it spewed everywhere, after having rolled around in the luggage. Nobody made a big deal like they would have here. A guy can smoke a cigarette in a lot of place without the BS. Cash is still King in China, which is a measure of freedom. It’s free in these ways kind of like a Mexico, where you may have laws, but regular people just don’t give a crap about the small stuff.

    I saw almost no cops pulling over people for driving violations – well, what are you gonna do – arrest the whole road?!?

    I know I couldn’t have, especially as a Chinaman, just put up antigovernment flyers and such, so I am not arguing on the big picture here. It is true that the freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights are not exercised in China, but we are very far away from them here too.

    OK, to the privacy issue, back then the internet was not as locked down on the client side (the reader). One could pay 2 yuan and surf the web for an hour – 30 cents or so – with no ID required. Cell phones could be used by buying a SIM card (you’ll like this John, a phone number with a bunch of 4′s would be half the price of one with lots of 8′s!). There was anonymity in both these modes of communication, and don’t go telling me about any spying by the government based on internet/phone signals, as our NSA is tops in the surveillance of citizens business by a long-shot.

    However, things changed by around 2009 – the internet cafe wanted an ID, so I just mooched off of wireless signals from nearby apartments. Nowadays (at least going back 3 years), the owners of cell phones must “register” the SIM cards or phones in some manner, and the quantity one can “register” is limited.

    I think all this has changed not because there had been a lull in the Commies’ lust for control, but more like they just are always a step behind – which is a good thing, unlike in the US, where the control freaks have got the best computer tech.

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  • I repost my comment verbatim here from “Diversity” Means Beijing Must Rule All Under Heaven, by Steve Sailer.

    Per an earlier comment of mine, the joke’s on them. I don’t think they’re getting much of an education anymore, even in engineering, unless the “education” is all the PC nonsense from all around the university. In that case, take their money, run them through for 4 years, and send ‘em back to screw-up China.

    They could start Cultural Revolution 2.0 – not your father’s C.R., but a newer, edgy Cultural Revolution, an iRevolution, if you will. Instead of a farm in Qiqihar, Manchuria to slop pigs, you’ll be sent to a cave in Yunnan to write internet comments. Instead of making big-character posters and kicking the shit out of your parents, you’ll be forced to build an island made out of shipping containers out in the S. China Sea, and your parents and grandparents, if they are landlords (that means everyone) will be forced to eat entire meals without any rice and using a fork and knife, and made to throw their paper towels into the trash can. Instead of a little Red Book, all the Han people will read http://www.unz.com Spitting onto the sidewalk will be outlawed with harsh penalties. Join for the hygiene lesson, stay for the camaraderie.

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  • Very good post, Mr. Derbyshire – I see you got around to the real reason, the money. Your post is more of a comprehensive article about this subject than Mr. Sailer’s one a few days back, but you’ve read the comments on that one – so, as the Rusbo’s people say: DITTO.

    Just more about China, though. I have ahem, family, from China, and the pop music now seems to try to resemble soul music and modern American pop, and I hate to say this, but if this is the way it’s gonna go, then BRING BACK DISCO! Your cutie notwithstanding, their music truly sucks, and that goes back past the time of Confucius. In my politically correct opinion Only the English-speaking world has ever made good rock music, and come to think of it, of course the only good country (gotta go back before 1990) and blue-grass, and ….

    More importantly though, I defer to Cntrl-V of my comment from Sailer’s post:

    Some of the 100,000′s of Chinese students plan on staying here (whether legally or not), but of the ones who don’t but whose parents think it is the biggest deal to get a piece of paper from an American university, they will eventually be sorry they bothered. Reputations take a long time to change and haven’t caught up to reality

    I’ll add to this in a minute.

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    Dang, checked my link to the post on Confucius. This one is what I meant. Sorry about that.
    , @Priss Factor
    "Only the English-speaking world has ever made good rock music"

    Some Mexican and Polish rock are really good.

    Poles are also expert at Jazz.
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  • 2 Anon > Sino-pop. You’re right. Most are dross.

    little known trade secret: lots of Asian pop music is not-exactly-made in Asia. Yeah, the vocal track is recorded dry – you can do THAT cleanly with a few grand worth of a high-end mike & digital tape recorder; but those ones&zeros are satellited to an office in LA, where it is handed off to a multi-million-dollar-equipped post-production house.

    the Singaporean upper-classes are rather wealthy, but there isn’t a single farm-to-fork music production house in the country. Actually, most Singaporean talents fly to Taiwan to lay down their vocal tracks. You could physically do it in Singapore, but any Singaporean who became rather good at engineeering such a session, is already in Taiwan, or perhaps HongKong.

    Singapore ALSO allows its nightclubs to import live-club pop-music cover-bands from the Philippines.

    that REALLY puts a damper on any Singaporean musician kid thinking that if he just pays his dues for a few years, he might someday MAKE A LIVING at his craft.

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    This is interesting. It seems like their real beef is they feel like this isn’t a “nice” thing to do.

    I think they are sincere and actually seem to understand a part of the PC ideology they live with.

    ” According to him, the group won’t ask the chancellor to disinvite the Dalai Lama. But it will request that he “send out statements that clarify the content of Dalai Lama’s speech,” “make sure his speech has nothing to do with politics,” and “stop using words like ‘spiritual leader’ or ‘exile’” to describe the Dalai Lama.”

    Their beef, in part, is that it is ‘bad manners’ and ‘disrespectful’ to invite a divisive political figure to speak at a ceremonial event. And sure, it is *insensitive*.

    They are surrounded with students who claim to need ‘trigger warnings’ and safe spaces and the utmost respect and tolerance for their unique ‘differences’.

    So, in that context, why shouldn’t the university show sensitivity to conservative Chinese parents who will be attended. After all, there is no form of gender or sexuality diversity that isn’t entitled to it.

    Its not like I disagree with Derb. It is bizarre. To me, the disturbing part is that the students didn’t find the campus liberating in any sense nor the notion of freedom of speech an important value. But hell … they didn’t experience it.

    And maybe, consistent with Derb, its because there are so many of them that they found it easy to live within their own community. And correctly interpreted a dominant value that of ‘being nice’ as more important than debate and diversity of opinion.

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  • These visas are about 2 things:
    1. money !! The money grubbing Unis want the tuition bucks. Likely are charging “out of state” tuition too which is usually double or more than “in state” tuition.
    2. Immigration. Since we have “immigration by hanging out” here in the USA getting a student visa gets you a 90% chance of citizenship …100% if you marry a local or knock out a kid….

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  • The New Kids: VICE News Tonight on HBO (Full Segment)

    Published on Feb 9, 2017

    The number of Chinese students enrolling at American secondary schools is on the rise–and if the success of the Wisconsin International Academy is any indication, it will grow exponentially in the years ahead. VICE News Tonight visits a former hotel in Milwaukee that is now home to 170 Chinese teenagers. They have left their families on the other side of the world to study for a better future in the American Midwest.

    http://www.unz.com/forum/white-students-unfair-advantage-in-admissions/#comment-1748458

    Harmonic Divergence: The Wealthy Are Dropping the Dalai Lama’s Name, Literally

    by Jamie Johnson July 19, 2011

    The maneuver reflects increasing concerns in the U.S. that emphatic public support for the Tibetan leader will alienate Chinese officials, and in turn jeopardize our strategic interests in the world’s fastest growing economy. Like the president, a rising number of international billionaires have begun to worry that backing the Dalai Lama could pose a risk to their personal wealth by potentially limiting access to lucrative markets in China. Years ago, before surging Asian industry became a force impossible to ignore, such fears were remote, if they existed at all, for the American super-rich. But now that the seat of financial power has started shifting eastward, patronage of the Dalai Lama can come at a considerable cost.
    [...]
    Sadly, China’s increasing sway over our economy compromises the Dalai Lama’s ability to attract wealthy American patrons. The opportunity to make money is something billionaires simply can’t resist—even if giving in to that persistent urge means shunning an enlightened spiritual guru.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/07/harmonic-divergence-wealthy-dropping-the-dalai-lamas-name-literally

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    I guess all those "Free Tibet" stickers on the bumpers of Progressive's Priuses and Volvos are going to have to come off.
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:

    That song is weak.

    Teng had a good song, but Faye Wong’s cover version is much better:

    I sampled some Sino-pop. You’re right. Most are dross.

    But this one’s folk-pop is really good. It has heart. She was good in late 80s and 90s but then got silly. Something in the late 90s turned everyone into MTV-crap.

    Not a fan of Chinese language, but Pan makes it musical enough.

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  • This is one of the funniest mutations of PC.

    ROTFL.

    Chinese invoke ‘diversity’ to shut out the Dalai.

    ‘Justice’ is so ‘fluid’ depending on who’s got the power.

    Just ask the Palestinians.

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  • I’ve had several articles up at Asia Times in the last few weeks. Ghosts of Wenchuan marks the third anniversary of the Wenchuan earthquake of May 12, 2008. Two of China’s best known dissident artists, Ai Weiwei and Liao Yiwu, make Wenchuan an important part of their critique of the Chinese political system. Ai focussed...
  • Nice piece on the Dalai Lama.

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  • Justin says: • Website

    That’s what I bloody hate about people like Ai. They think that shoddy schools isn’t a function of being a developing country without strong regulation and enforcement, it’s a function of being democratic or non-democratic.

    So those schools wouldn’t have been built if the country was a democratic developing country instead of a authoritarian developing country? The fudging of numbers killed wouldn’t have been so complete but those children would still been just as dead.

    If you don’t have a fucking solution, you’re an irrelevance to the problem.

    That rant over I liked your recent articles on Tibet.

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  • Amidst the horrific violence of the last few days, somebody’s been working overtime to marginalize the Dalai Lama and undercut him as the leader of the worldwide Tibetan movement. Not just the Chinese. I’m talking to you, Tsewang Rigzin. Tibetan unrest in China is not just a problem for the PRC. It’s a major problem...
  • Dalai Lama is bad,the Tibet is chinese,A537CL1

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  • Wow I am so stoked…my 4yrold son and I along w/ my mother want to see the show so bad…I am convinced that my little boy Dylan is BEP Biggest fan…some kids pretend to be firemen,Doctors and Police Officers…NOT my Boy HE pretends to be Apple, Will or Taboo and lucky me…he always makes me Fergie! turnstile

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  • I have an article up at Asia Times Online under the pen name Peter Lee entitled Dalai Lama at apex of Sino-Indian tensions. It's keyed to a high profile news item--the Dalai Lama's provocative visit to a border town in territory held by India but disputed by China--and a significant but rather underreported development--the escalating...
  • Facts Behind China-India Border Dispute
    http://tinyurl.com/27fm9u

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  • the only thing that matters is what the residents of this “disputed”region want. I’m willing to bet they don’t want to be citizens of China.

    Frankly, the world is getting tired of China throwing its weight around irresponsibly and interfering in other peoples matters.

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  • 6. I would think India would NOT openly support the independence of Tibet. In particular, the Pakistan factor should not relate to such a decision since India has other thing to worry about, viz. China’s counter to such move would be to support Assam separatism Tit-for-Tat.

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  • you have made a lot of polemic conclusion and statement, but not really any convincing evidence leading to your speculation/theory.

    a few notes:

    1. the key and overwhelming reason for Mao’s strike (back) in 1962 was that Nehru was pushing too much (70-80% of his outposts in East (NEFA) were north of McMahon line — crossing even what the Indian claim was) as he misjudge the ability of China’s military over such a harsh terrain and supply line. Mao decided Indian encroachment would not stop unless he acted.

    2. Indian’s defeat was simply bad leadership and bad training. PLA was as inexperienced in fighting in such terrain as India was. PLA leadership had the experiences of the civil war and the Korean war. You have simply taken the Indian official excuse for the defeat.

    3. Nepal factor is peripheral to the whole Indian-China dispute. If anything, the relationship between the Maoist and current PRC is not amicable, since China effectively denounced Mao for 30 years.

    4. Pakistan-China relationship was A RESULT of the 1962 war. You made it seems like a decisive factor for Sino-Indian dispute, which really isn’t. Even if Pakistan collapses, kashmir will still be a hot spot, it is geopolitic, and religion, irrespective of who rules Pakistan

    5. Aksai Chin was not really part of Kashimir. the West side of the disputed problem include other part of Jammu-Kashmir other than Aksai Chin.

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    To sum up such an important war (1962)in a psychological explanation is too misleading, and suggests wrong things. India obviously has its own stragetical considerations in supporting Dalai Lama, and playing the Tibet card. China (or Mao) would be extremely stupid if it failed to recognize this. Mao’s temper may add some salt on this tension. But it is completely wrong and disingenous to suggest that the war is mostly out of Communist China’s intention to punish Nehru over its frustration on the latter’s accommodation of Dalai Lama. This kind of explanation runs counter to the solution of the crisis on the Chinese side–the victor lost the disputed territory. It is understandable from this perspective that why you ommitted mentioning it.

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  • Amidst the horrific violence of the last few days, somebody’s been working overtime to marginalize the Dalai Lama and undercut him as the leader of the worldwide Tibetan movement. Not just the Chinese. I’m talking to you, Tsewang Rigzin. Tibetan unrest in China is not just a problem for the PRC. It’s a major problem...
  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    One of the offshoots of Western Education and emphasize on individualism is the denial of population dynamics and clash of cultures. The expansionist conquest of North America is covered up and similar dynamics by other races overlooked.

    Decades ago in another war from the back of an Army truck I got glimpses of a massive Khmer Buddhist temple falling into ruin. Except, in the central coast of Vietnam there are no Khmer. The Vietnamese had forced them out centuries earlier. For failing to understand the strength and unity of their culture, the American occupation was futile and inevitably a total failure.

    The Han Chinese will continue to immigrate to the Tibetan Plateau until it is in integral part of greater China. The only counter measures minority races have to being placed into reservations are AK-47s and IEDs. The Tibetan failing may be that it is so isolated that they do not have secure adjacent safe zones to stock and replenished their war supplies.

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  • Dan says: • Website

    The Tibetan movement is a national liberation movement of an oppressed minority. The TYC congress has always been an dissident group, disagreeing with the TGIE on a number of issues, and hardly represents Tibetan refugees as a whole, let alone Tibetans inside the TAR. I haven’t detected much if any “balance” here, so I’m off to another blog. Do you think that the Xinhua and the foreign press have the same weight, and that one has to weigh one side in each hand to find this so-called “balance”? Interesting idea, but I don’t get it. Goes nowhere toward any kind of truth.

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  • master_of_americans

    Where did I say Dalai orchestrated the recent violence?

    I said he orchestrated the Tibet for Tibetans movement which Dalai actively promotes spurs racial hatred and segregation of minorities. This nationalism sentiment will only encourage radicalism and not mutual understanding. understand that these minorities in Tibet are there to stay. Tibetans have not right in refusing both legally or morally.

    Employing violence and scare tactics to root them out is quite against what Dalai stands for.

    If this is how Tibetans are treating minorities I don’t see much hope in calling for equality and human rights.

    Hui has been in Tibet since the 17th century and not recent arrivals as you seems to suggest.

    Another factor that anyone conveniently forgets is the fact that religious conflict has spilled out in Tibet area for centuries and Tibetans aren’t known for non violence in the treatment of others.

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  • hallo84,

    What is the evidence that the Dalai Lama somehow orchestrated the recent violence in Tibet?

    Do you think that Hui and Han are perceived by Tibetans as being particularly different? They are both Chinese-speaking groups who arrived recently and are assumed to be supporters of the army which maintains the PRC’s control over Tibet. Your statement implies that the rioters were going after anyone who looked different from them, but I’m not sure that’s the case.

    Also, it is a popular misconception that Tibetans are a minority in large parts of the Zangqu. According to government statistics, Tibetans are a majority of at least 60% in the following autonomous areas outside of the TAR: Gardze, Yushu, Hainan, Huangnan, and Golog; plus Tibetans and Qiangs together are 71% in Ngawa. I think it is safe to assume that Tibetans form a majority in sections of several other areas, such as in the Xiahe region. A lot of land area is inhabited primarily by Tibetans.

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  • As a fellow blogger, I really appreciate the information about the Tibetan Independence Movement. Let me point out, however, that if the Chinese government weren’t so repressive, even of their own ethnic groups, the current situation might not be so bad.

    I firmly believe that the US must reduce its dependence upon cheap Chinese goods…the tainted toys, food and pharmaceuticals don’t do anything to improve China’s image, either. Let’s make China matter LESS, until they clean up their act.

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  • I don’t agree…
    Tibet independence movement has effectively evolved from anti government motive to racial intolerance.

    The ball has rolled on from simply grievance against social injustice and Dali has, intentionally or otherwise, fueled this change.

    The Tibet for Tibetans movement is racist at its core and seeks to destroy the ethnic minorities of Tibet.

    Hui(Muslims) are persecuted along with the Han Chinese. Minorities are driven out under calls for a Greater Tibet which includes major parts of near by provinces where Tibetans are the minority and violence have already broken out.

    I don’t see the pacifist of a monk you are pointing out as Dali lama.
    Instead I see someone who orchestrated a movement but seeing the backlash, tries to distance himself personally from the damage.

    What’s ironic is that no matter if he resigns, he will always be the spiritual leader of Tibet and have the authority to call upon a fellowship if need be. His influence even without office will remain unchanged much like Ayatollah Khomein.

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  • Probably one of the most insightful postings on the present troubles which I’ve read so far. Almost too well written as it leaves me with few points on which I can pull you up :-)

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    Man, you are great and i totally mean it. This is the most unbiased view i have seen so far, actually i don’t think there is any bias at all. The propoganda machines, from the western , chinese and tibetian are working hard around the clock and publishing a bunch of one sided BS. Its glad to see someone like you still exists in the world when no press is worth trusting.

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  • Fantastic stuff. It’s great to see the Tibet issue getting such thoughtful coverage. I’ve been drowning in the misinformation from both Western and Chinese media. There is a bigger story in the midst of all this and the people on the ground, both Tibetan and Han Chinese, are suffering.

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  • You’ve been writing some of the most balanced, thought-provoking, and insightful posts about the situation I’ve read. Please keep it up.

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