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    The headline news that Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), has come out via his Twitter account with what appears to be an off-hand endorsement of the domestic terrorist group, Antifa, has made some waves and raised a few eyebrows. Here is what The New York Post [January 3] reported:...
  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Republicans are spineless worms.
    Trump is a Godsend.
    If Hillary would have won then she would have filled up the US with emigrant scum to such an extent that Democrats would rule the US until eternity.

    With Trump pushing hard for a DACA amnesty I’m not so sure that he’s the Godsend we had hoped for. After all, Trump has long been boastful, inconsistent, pugnacious, and vain. I put up with all that because I thought we had a candidate serious about enforcing immigration law. But now I feel cheated.

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  • @Jake
    Yes, but far from exclusively. MN is a state totally defined by Scandinavian 'niceness,' which is always going to start with bending over backwards to find all the good in all peoples who are not white and move from there into total promotion of The Other.

    Because Ellison so proudly rants his hate for all whites who do not share his hatred of everything to do with the few barely surviving aspects of Christendom, the Good Whites of MN would have elected him even without any Somalis added to the mix.

    Yes, but far from exclusively. MN is a state totally defined by Scandinavian ‘niceness,’ which is always going to start with bending over backwards to find all the good in all peoples who are not white and move from there into total promotion of The Other.

    Scandinavians in general overwhelmingly support militant feminism and queer licentiousness.

    Militant feminism and queer licentiousness ideology is sufficiently pervasive in Minnesota that sympathetic pols consider it a minimum requirement to win state office elections.

    Militant feminism and queer licentiousness ideology is also integral to the federal diversity scheme, making a diversity scheme espousing freak like Keith Ellison reasonably palatable to the average Scandinavian-American voter.

    There is no Antifa worm in existence that doesn’t also support militant feminism and queer licentiousness.

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  • @Dan Hayes
    So we have been blessed with three separate members of the Bush clan: Prescott, GHW and GW.

    Each bad in their own inimitable way, but each in their own way manifesting their WASP sensibilities and sense of entitlement.

    Proving once again the old dictum that the apple never falls far from the tree.

    Or as Bush would say, the tree from the apple.

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  • It’s ridiculous to call the Democratic Party far left. In every way that matters they are only slightly different from Republicans. Both parties are servants of the oligarchs that rule America (for the most part the Deep State or War Party).

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  • @Minnesota Mary
    You nailed it! Minnesota is now the Somalian Capital of the World.

    Yeah! It has surpassed Mogadishu!

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  • @The King is A Fink
    Just how did Minnesota end up with a Muslim in Congress? Well, I'm guessing that will be the thousands of Somalian 'refugees' imported in the last 15 years or so. If ever you needed an example of immigration leading to representation and toxic opposition to the native population...

    You nailed it! Minnesota is now the Somalian Capital of the World.

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    Yeah! It has surpassed Mogadishu!
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  • @Jake
    Yes, but far from exclusively. MN is a state totally defined by Scandinavian 'niceness,' which is always going to start with bending over backwards to find all the good in all peoples who are not white and move from there into total promotion of The Other.

    Because Ellison so proudly rants his hate for all whites who do not share his hatred of everything to do with the few barely surviving aspects of Christendom, the Good Whites of MN would have elected him even without any Somalis added to the mix.

    MN is a state totally defined by Scandinavian ‘niceness,’

    Trump carried nearly every county in the state, so Minnesota may not be quite as leftoid as people assume. But unfortunately, the Twin Cities are a particularly noxious bastion of SJWism, and that metro area dominates Minnesota’s electoral politics (by sheer virtue of the size of it’s population), probably more than any other single metro area dominates the politics of any other large or medium-sized state.

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  • @MEexpert

    Jews in Congress far outnumber the Muslims.
     
    And we wonder why congress is "Israel occupied territory" and we keep electing more of them.

    Perhaps we do witness an inter-Jewish war in the US government. The astonishing degree of both incompetence and opportunism has finally caught up with the US “national security services.” What an entertainment! https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/11/the-fbi-hand-behind-russia-gate/
    “…the Strzok-Page texts provide something that the Russia-gate investigation has been sorely lacking: first-hand evidence of both corrupt intent and action. After months of breathless searching for “evidence” of Russian-Trump collusion designed to put Trump in the White House, what now exists is actual evidence that senior officials of the Obama administration colluded to keep Trump out of the White House – proof of what old-time gumshoes used to call “means, motive and opportunity.”
    Even more unfortunately for Russia-gate enthusiasts, the FBI lovers’ correspondence provides factual evidence exposing much of the made-up “Resistance” narrative – the contrived storyline that The New York Times and much of the rest of the U.S. mainstream media deemed fit to print with little skepticism and few if any caveats, a scenario about brilliantly devious Russians that not only lacks actual evidence – relying on unverified hearsay and rumor – but doesn’t make sense on its face.”
    – And now this misearable — and possbly illegal — addition from Feinstein: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-11/feinstein-admits-she-was-mentally-unstable-when-releasing-fusion-gps-transcript
    “The one regret I have is that I should have spoke with Senator Grassley before. And I don’t make an excuse but I’ve had a bad cold and maybe that slowed down my mental facilitis a little bit.” Perhaps this is a proper time for her to check into some proper mental health facilities for the elderly…

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  • @Moi
    Relax. Jews in Congress far outnumber the Muslims.

    Jews in Congress far outnumber the Muslims.

    And we wonder why congress is “Israel occupied territory” and we keep electing more of them.

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    Perhaps we do witness an inter-Jewish war in the US government. The astonishing degree of both incompetence and opportunism has finally caught up with the US "national security services." What an entertainment! https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/11/the-fbi-hand-behind-russia-gate/
    "...the Strzok-Page texts provide something that the Russia-gate investigation has been sorely lacking: first-hand evidence of both corrupt intent and action. After months of breathless searching for “evidence” of Russian-Trump collusion designed to put Trump in the White House, what now exists is actual evidence that senior officials of the Obama administration colluded to keep Trump out of the White House – proof of what old-time gumshoes used to call “means, motive and opportunity.”
    Even more unfortunately for Russia-gate enthusiasts, the FBI lovers’ correspondence provides factual evidence exposing much of the made-up “Resistance” narrative – the contrived storyline that The New York Times and much of the rest of the U.S. mainstream media deemed fit to print with little skepticism and few if any caveats, a scenario about brilliantly devious Russians that not only lacks actual evidence – relying on unverified hearsay and rumor – but doesn’t make sense on its face."
    -- And now this misearable -- and possbly illegal -- addition from Feinstein: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-11/feinstein-admits-she-was-mentally-unstable-when-releasing-fusion-gps-transcript
    “The one regret I have is that I should have spoke with Senator Grassley before. And I don’t make an excuse but I’ve had a bad cold and maybe that slowed down my mental facilitis a little bit.” Perhaps this is a proper time for her to check into some proper mental health facilities for the elderly...
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  • @Authenticjazzman
    Superb observation.

    If one were to run a nationwide survey of the party affiliation of people sitting in the waiting rooms of
    "Shrinks", ( psychologists, psychiatrists) , one would not be suprised as to the results : 98% identifying as : Democrats.

    Look these people : leftists, are out of their minds and any further attempt to reach compromise or rationality with them is beyond futile.
    All discussion and debating with them is nothing but an abject waste of time and energy.

    Auzthenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz msuician.

    “Mensa” qualified since 1973

    Mensa qualified for what? a janitor!

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  • @willieskull68
    I was being convinced until "in the presence of a child". You must be a teacher or is it an educator; and outrageously over compensated. (angry now) Believe it or not life happens in the presence of a child.
    Oh I forgot, your salary is for the children. All that public service drips of virtue. Get out of here.

    “…Oh I forgot, your salary is for the children.”
    – Could you imagine that a parent wrote the post? Let me guess, you do not have children. And you seem to be firmly in support of the two scoundrels-in-charge.

    “Believe it or not life happens in the presence of a child.”
    – You mean, abuse of a woman by unruly men is a norm and children should be used to it? — and I do not mean the black cop but the two scoundrels with the oversized salaries, who decided to show who is the boss. Is it misogyny that explains your solidarity with the “bosses?”

    “Get out of here.”
    — UnzReview is a forum for intelligent people. Your manners betray you.

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  • @annamaria
    Educational material: https://www.blacklistednews.com/WATCH%3A_Teacher_Questions_Superintendent’s_Massive_Raise%2C_So_She’s_Attacked_and_Arrested/62789/0/38/38/Y/M.html
    Vermillion Parish, LA, “Teacher removed in handcuffs and arrested for questioning superintendent's raise at school board meeting” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daI1rCPnTKM
    The school board gave the unelected superintendent Jerome Puyau a new 3-year contract with a $38,000 raise. "During the time for public comment, Hargrave, an English language arts teacher, was called upon to speak, stood up, and calmly voiced her concern that classroom sizes have greatly increased over the last few years as teachers’ salaries remained stagnant."
    President Anthony Fontana—a local defense attorney often referred to as a “tyrant”—has threatened Hargrave with arrest for questioning the unelected superintendent’ raise.
    “As the camera turns, we can see the cop on top of Hargrave, who is much smaller than him, as he places her under arrest for no reason. “I didn’t do anything wrong and you pushed me to the floor,” Hargrave says as the marshal manhandles her down the hallway. “Sir, I am much smaller than you.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daI1rCPnTKM
    Punchline: “Superintendent Jerome Puyau said they won't press any charges against her.”
    Both Anthony Fontana and Jerome Puyau, these two cockroaches that have decided to emulate the "deciders" by raughing the teacher, should be arrested and questioned for the violation of principles of democracy and for the grave insult to a citizen. By the way, the insult happened in a presence of a child.

    I was being convinced until “in the presence of a child”. You must be a teacher or is it an educator; and outrageously over compensated. (angry now) Believe it or not life happens in the presence of a child.
    Oh I forgot, your salary is for the children. All that public service drips of virtue. Get out of here.

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    "...Oh I forgot, your salary is for the children."
    -- Could you imagine that a parent wrote the post? Let me guess, you do not have children. And you seem to be firmly in support of the two scoundrels-in-charge.

    "Believe it or not life happens in the presence of a child."
    -- You mean, abuse of a woman by unruly men is a norm and children should be used to it? -- and I do not mean the black cop but the two scoundrels with the oversized salaries, who decided to show who is the boss. Is it misogyny that explains your solidarity with the “bosses?”

    "Get out of here."
    --- UnzReview is a forum for intelligent people. Your manners betray you.
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  • The Democrats are becoming the party of black and brown racial chauvinism. It’s led by Latino race chauvinist Tom La Raza Perez and Black Muslim racial chauvinist Keith Ellison. Those two bozos can foment as much hatred towards whites as they want and their fellow Democrats and the (((media))) will not only do cartwheels but chime in.

    Thirty five percent of numb skull, self hating whites will support the Democrat party no matter how radical and anti-white the party platform. I wish those whites all the worst and if I have a say in the matter they will sorely regret their choice to willfully aid and abet those that seek to harm white people.

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  • Maybe the Republicans are cowards in government because the dems have pedo-dirt on some? I can’t imagine any other reason why some of them would rather slink away from a fight rather than defend their principles. The dems seems to be good at blackmail and corruption and digging up dirt. Apart from importing their voter base, that seems to be the only other way they have any power as their policies are destroying America, which let’s not forget, was built from the ground up by MOSTLY white, western Europeans as the pinnacle of WESTERN CULTURE AND SOCIETY.

    Western society is too tolerant and nice and has become the victim of its own tolerance and acceptance. Does nobody else see the hypocrisy? African, Islamic and OTHER cultures are to be celebrated and encouraged, but white, western society must be insulted, undermined and destroyed as white privileged, mysoginistic bastards responsible for all the ills in the world? Surely a white person in a white western society is just as relevant as and other person in any other society! Muslim culture is forced on whites who go to Islamic countries at pain of death or jail if one doesn’t conform. Why is it not the same in America or Canada? We are to accepting, tolerant, friendly. Cultural diversity only counts for everyone except white western culture. Only white people can be racist, and satan’s helper is the white male. So sad. (Last part is probably not for this article, but I think that somehow all this is related. Haven’t linked all the dots yet…)

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  • @Fidelios Automata
    Ellison must resign! His endorsement of terrorism is far worse than Franken's crude tomfoolery.

    “Ellison must resign”

    Never happen as he is the voice, the spokesman for legions of radical leftists, leftist perfessers in the edumacation system, and the Democrat party.

    He is precisely what they want and have been waiting for, such as the crazy Germans were hoping and praying for a leftist anti-American president, and when he appeared, 2008, in Berlin they swooned in collective rapture.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

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  • Ellison must resign! His endorsement of terrorism is far worse than Franken’s crude tomfoolery.

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    "Ellison must resign"

    Never happen as he is the voice, the spokesman for legions of radical leftists, leftist perfessers in the edumacation system, and the Democrat party.

    He is precisely what they want and have been waiting for, such as the crazy Germans were hoping and praying for a leftist anti-American president, and when he appeared, 2008, in Berlin they swooned in collective rapture.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.
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  • @Anonymous
    Too bad about the saxophone.

    “Too bad for the saxophone”

    Okay I’m game, just what are you trying to express, and precisely when did you last hear me blowing my horn.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  • @Eric Novak
    You mean (((Germany))). Hard to believe anyone alive doesn't know this. You're like the Japanese soldier found alone on a Pacific atoll in the 1970s, unaware that the war is over.

    ” Hard to believe anyone alive doesn’t know this”

    As far as “Knowing” about Germany : I lived there for forty-plus years, and was married to a German “von”, ( aristocat ) then a German MD, and now a German teacher (ret) so I am quite sure that I am far more versed in German history, politics, societal issues, etc, than yourself.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

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  • This seems like a perfect opportunity for two or three new parties to challenge the “Coke or Pepsi” status quo. I’d be fine with a real left, real right, and real center to mitigate the “directed drift” from the existing two-headed monster.

    But what we’ll probably get instead is a bigger market for global Coke and diminishing returns for national Pepsi. People have enough trouble understanding more than one side of anything, so they’ll settle for the official version and the official seeming alternative.

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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Republicans are spineless worms.
    Trump is a Godsend.
    If Hillary would have won then she would have filled up the US with emigrant scum to such an extent that Democrats would rule the US until eternity.

    Till eternity or till the collapse of the Republic. Whichever came first.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Antifa is probably another FBI operation to both manipulate the flock and lure patsies into the cause. News media is able to rally around the fresh meat, turn it into all into a pile of shit for public idiots. Really nothing to see here at all, just shift work for DHS.

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  • @Authenticjazzman
    Okay here it is:
    Almost everything destructive over the last several hundred years has come out of Germany :
    Psychology, Heroin, Marxism, Bauhaus, "Da Da", twenties sexual revolution, worship of BS artist "Authority" figures : Judges, Attorneys, Politicians, Clergy, Journalists, Medicos, Professors, Teachers, etc.etc.

    And now "Antifa" the product of the 68 "revolution" and out of , where else : Frankfurt.

    Plus now the newfound hatred for privatly-owned automobiles.

    The most important golden rule for the survival of mankind being : If it comes out of Germany is is bad for mankind, with the exception of Bratwurst and Sauerbraten.

    Germany the gift which never stops giving.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz msuician.

    Too bad about the saxophone.

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    "Too bad for the saxophone"

    Okay I'm game, just what are you trying to express, and precisely when did you last hear me blowing my horn.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.
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  • @Authenticjazzman
    Okay here it is:
    Almost everything destructive over the last several hundred years has come out of Germany :
    Psychology, Heroin, Marxism, Bauhaus, "Da Da", twenties sexual revolution, worship of BS artist "Authority" figures : Judges, Attorneys, Politicians, Clergy, Journalists, Medicos, Professors, Teachers, etc.etc.

    And now "Antifa" the product of the 68 "revolution" and out of , where else : Frankfurt.

    Plus now the newfound hatred for privatly-owned automobiles.

    The most important golden rule for the survival of mankind being : If it comes out of Germany is is bad for mankind, with the exception of Bratwurst and Sauerbraten.

    Germany the gift which never stops giving.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz msuician.

    You mean (((Germany))). Hard to believe anyone alive doesn’t know this. You’re like the Japanese soldier found alone on a Pacific atoll in the 1970s, unaware that the war is over.

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    " Hard to believe anyone alive doesn't know this"

    As far as "Knowing" about Germany : I lived there for forty-plus years, and was married to a German "von", ( aristocat ) then a German MD, and now a German teacher (ret) so I am quite sure that I am far more versed in German history, politics, societal issues, etc, than yourself.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.
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  • the old and storied Democratic Party has moved to the far left:

    There has never been a time in its history when “the old and storied Democratic Party” didn’t celebrate the presence of Africans in North America.

    Rather, it was the statist and increasingly authoritarian nature of the old party of Grover Cleveland and Andrew Jackson—the party that once defended states’ rights and individual liberty—that had become readily visible to even the most inattentive registered party member.

    Not in time to stop the Southern states from being first in line to ratify the Sixteenth Amendment. Statism has to be paid for. And taxed income has to be reported, which necessitates intrusion into one’s privacy. Oh, and there was the Eighteenth Amendment, also quickly ratified below the Mason-Dixon. That’s where the ATF came from.

    The old Democrats were like the Soviets in one way– “conservative” in attempting to conserve a radical lie. In this case, it was the lie that two races can live side-by-side without trouble.

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  • @jilles dykstra
    The political mess in the USA is just being made bigger by using the word fascist.
    I discussed this with a USA citizen, he confirmed that the word has nothing to do with Mussolini, Franco, or Hitler, who was a National-Socialist, but was directed against the USA ruling (money) elite.

    Socialism in the good old days was a simple concept, income transfer through taxation from the rich to the poor.
    What nowadays left is, I do not know.

    In the same way 'right' has become meaningless, in any case a confused concept.
    The absence of political parties in the USA, as seen by European eyes, does not make things clearer.

    Left these days seems to have meanings like unlimited immigration, gay marriages, possibility of abortions, and so on and so forth.
    Right then is the opposite, nationalistic in the first place.

    In Europe we have the same confusion, since socialists became globalists, and for open societies.
    Their traditional role of protecting the weak disappeared, and so the 'socialist' parties disappeared.
    They never understood that just the nation state can protect the weak and the poor.

    And thus populist parties appear anywhere, populist just meaning being against mainstream politics.

    In Belgium government is no longer possible without the populist party NVA, its chairman, Bart de Wever, mayor of Antwerpen, is seen by many as the real prime minister.
    Michel seems a clown to me.

    With us in the Netherlands it may well be that Rutte's one seat majority government ends after the 2019 elections, if his government does not fall before that election, over a new airport, in the vicinity of those who mostly elect on the christian party !

    In Germany the end of Merkel seems near.

    yes this is how the words ‘fascism’ and ‘socialism ‘ were intended and understood .

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  • @Moi
    Relax. Jews in Congress far outnumber the Muslims.

    ….. and are a lot more dangerous!!

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  • Educational material: https://www.blacklistednews.com/WATCH%3A_Teacher_Questions_Superintendent’s_Massive_Raise%2C_So_She’s_Attacked_and_Arrested/62789/0/38/38/Y/M.html
    Vermillion Parish, LA, “Teacher removed in handcuffs and arrested for questioning superintendent’s raise at school board meeting”

    The school board gave the unelected superintendent Jerome Puyau a new 3-year contract with a $38,000 raise. “During the time for public comment, Hargrave, an English language arts teacher, was called upon to speak, stood up, and calmly voiced her concern that classroom sizes have greatly increased over the last few years as teachers’ salaries remained stagnant.”
    President Anthony Fontana—a local defense attorney often referred to as a “tyrant”—has threatened Hargrave with arrest for questioning the unelected superintendent’ raise.
    “As the camera turns, we can see the cop on top of Hargrave, who is much smaller than him, as he places her under arrest for no reason. “I didn’t do anything wrong and you pushed me to the floor,” Hargrave says as the marshal manhandles her down the hallway. “Sir, I am much smaller than you.”

    Punchline: “Superintendent Jerome Puyau said they won’t press any charges against her.”
    Both Anthony Fontana and Jerome Puyau, these two cockroaches that have decided to emulate the “deciders” by raughing the teacher, should be arrested and questioned for the violation of principles of democracy and for the grave insult to a citizen. By the way, the insult happened in a presence of a child.

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    I was being convinced until "in the presence of a child". You must be a teacher or is it an educator; and outrageously over compensated. (angry now) Believe it or not life happens in the presence of a child.
    Oh I forgot, your salary is for the children. All that public service drips of virtue. Get out of here.
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  • Okay here it is:
    Almost everything destructive over the last several hundred years has come out of Germany :
    Psychology, Heroin, Marxism, Bauhaus, “Da Da”, twenties sexual revolution, worship of BS artist “Authority” figures : Judges, Attorneys, Politicians, Clergy, Journalists, Medicos, Professors, Teachers, etc.etc.

    And now “Antifa” the product of the 68 “revolution” and out of , where else : Frankfurt.

    Plus now the newfound hatred for privatly-owned automobiles.

    The most important golden rule for the survival of mankind being : If it comes out of Germany is is bad for mankind, with the exception of Bratwurst and Sauerbraten.

    Germany the gift which never stops giving.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz msuician.

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    You mean (((Germany))). Hard to believe anyone alive doesn't know this. You're like the Japanese soldier found alone on a Pacific atoll in the 1970s, unaware that the war is over.
    , @Anonymous
    Too bad about the saxophone.
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  • @Joe Hide
    Very good article.
    Have you noticed how the representatives of the deep state, globalists, and control freaks are ever more obviously "coming out of the closet"? No, I'm not talking about homosexual "coming out of the closet, but psychotic disorders "coming out of the closet". What with cell phone cameras everywhere their in your face aggressive lunatic behavior has become viral, for everyone to be aghast at. Let them keep displaying their insanity so publically... even the sheep among us are waking up.

    Superb observation.

    If one were to run a nationwide survey of the party affiliation of people sitting in the waiting rooms of
    “Shrinks”, ( psychologists, psychiatrists) , one would not be suprised as to the results : 98% identifying as : Democrats.

    Look these people : leftists, are out of their minds and any further attempt to reach compromise or rationality with them is beyond futile.
    All discussion and debating with them is nothing but an abject waste of time and energy.

    Auzthenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz msuician.

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    “Mensa” qualified since 1973
     
    Mensa qualified for what? a janitor!
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  • @The King is A Fink
    Just how did Minnesota end up with a Muslim in Congress? Well, I'm guessing that will be the thousands of Somalian 'refugees' imported in the last 15 years or so. If ever you needed an example of immigration leading to representation and toxic opposition to the native population...

    Relax. Jews in Congress far outnumber the Muslims.

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    ..... and are a lot more dangerous!!
    , @MEexpert

    Jews in Congress far outnumber the Muslims.
     
    And we wonder why congress is "Israel occupied territory" and we keep electing more of them.
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  • @Wally
    "many Republicans in Congress .... seem to take their marching orders from the illegal immigration lobby and their big business Chamber of Commerce donors."

    No they "take their marching orders from" Jew / Israel lobbies.
    Israel has very strict immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY while Jews / Zionists demand massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    Israel will pay African migrants to leave, to jail if they don't accept.
    http://news.trust.org/item/20180103115805-egc1s
    "Netanyahu has called the migrants' presence a threat to Israel's social fabric and Jewish character, and one government minister has referred to them as "a cancer"."

    Israel to shut migrant centre and deport Africans
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/israel-to-shut-migrant-centre-and-deport-africans/

    The heart of the matter.
    BTW, Keith Ellison has fantasies , I bet, of violence let loose on us.

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  • That photo of Keith Ellison is worth to turn it into a meme from what I saw on this blog. http://moonbattery.com/?p=91226

    https://imgflip.com/i/224dhb

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  • Very good article.
    Have you noticed how the representatives of the deep state, globalists, and control freaks are ever more obviously “coming out of the closet”? No, I’m not talking about homosexual “coming out of the closet, but psychotic disorders “coming out of the closet”. What with cell phone cameras everywhere their in your face aggressive lunatic behavior has become viral, for everyone to be aghast at. Let them keep displaying their insanity so publically… even the sheep among us are waking up.

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    Superb observation.

    If one were to run a nationwide survey of the party affiliation of people sitting in the waiting rooms of
    "Shrinks", ( psychologists, psychiatrists) , one would not be suprised as to the results : 98% identifying as : Democrats.

    Look these people : leftists, are out of their minds and any further attempt to reach compromise or rationality with them is beyond futile.
    All discussion and debating with them is nothing but an abject waste of time and energy.

    Auzthenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz msuician.
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  • The worse, the better.

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  • At the top the demonrats and the republicons are the same cabal , Americans do not need political parties, we need patriots who defend the constitution, parties are subverting America.

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  • @ThereisaGod
    Be kind to the poor guy.
    Just because Ellison is the Deputy Chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) doesn't mean that he isn't stupid.

    So true. After all, he may be an asshole, but at least he’s stupid.

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  • THERE IS NO COWARDICE! It’s simply what they want and they will take the route of least resistance as know the real cowards are the internet conservatives who won’t initiate bloodshed that will be required to take the country back.

    60 million aborted children. Rampant pornography. Hook Up Culture. Feminism. Entertainment Industries. The rejection of the Bible for all matters of Faith & Practice. Blasphemy of God’s name encouraged at every turn. Worshiping of all things man made. Deification of Darwinism because it removes accountability to a Moral Agent Who will Judge men for their deeds and THOUGHTS.

    Who in America wants to reverse any of that? American’s would rather burn forever in Hell. Don’t worry you will get what you want:

    Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

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  • The political mess in the USA is just being made bigger by using the word fascist.
    I discussed this with a USA citizen, he confirmed that the word has nothing to do with Mussolini, Franco, or Hitler, who was a National-Socialist, but was directed against the USA ruling (money) elite.

    Socialism in the good old days was a simple concept, income transfer through taxation from the rich to the poor.
    What nowadays left is, I do not know.

    In the same way ‘right’ has become meaningless, in any case a confused concept.
    The absence of political parties in the USA, as seen by European eyes, does not make things clearer.

    Left these days seems to have meanings like unlimited immigration, gay marriages, possibility of abortions, and so on and so forth.
    Right then is the opposite, nationalistic in the first place.

    In Europe we have the same confusion, since socialists became globalists, and for open societies.
    Their traditional role of protecting the weak disappeared, and so the ‘socialist’ parties disappeared.
    They never understood that just the nation state can protect the weak and the poor.

    And thus populist parties appear anywhere, populist just meaning being against mainstream politics.

    In Belgium government is no longer possible without the populist party NVA, its chairman, Bart de Wever, mayor of Antwerpen, is seen by many as the real prime minister.
    Michel seems a clown to me.

    With us in the Netherlands it may well be that Rutte’s one seat majority government ends after the 2019 elections, if his government does not fall before that election, over a new airport, in the vicinity of those who mostly elect on the christian party !

    In Germany the end of Merkel seems near.

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    yes this is how the words 'fascism' and 'socialism ' were intended and understood .
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  • @The King is A Fink
    Just how did Minnesota end up with a Muslim in Congress? Well, I'm guessing that will be the thousands of Somalian 'refugees' imported in the last 15 years or so. If ever you needed an example of immigration leading to representation and toxic opposition to the native population...

    Yes, but far from exclusively. MN is a state totally defined by Scandinavian ‘niceness,’ which is always going to start with bending over backwards to find all the good in all peoples who are not white and move from there into total promotion of The Other.

    Because Ellison so proudly rants his hate for all whites who do not share his hatred of everything to do with the few barely surviving aspects of Christendom, the Good Whites of MN would have elected him even without any Somalis added to the mix.

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    MN is a state totally defined by Scandinavian ‘niceness,’
     
    Trump carried nearly every county in the state, so Minnesota may not be quite as leftoid as people assume. But unfortunately, the Twin Cities are a particularly noxious bastion of SJWism, and that metro area dominates Minnesota's electoral politics (by sheer virtue of the size of it's population), probably more than any other single metro area dominates the politics of any other large or medium-sized state.
    , @Joe Franklin

    Yes, but far from exclusively. MN is a state totally defined by Scandinavian ‘niceness,’ which is always going to start with bending over backwards to find all the good in all peoples who are not white and move from there into total promotion of The Other.

     

    Scandinavians in general overwhelmingly support militant feminism and queer licentiousness.

    Militant feminism and queer licentiousness ideology is sufficiently pervasive in Minnesota that sympathetic pols consider it a minimum requirement to win state office elections.

    Militant feminism and queer licentiousness ideology is also integral to the federal diversity scheme, making a diversity scheme espousing freak like Keith Ellison reasonably palatable to the average Scandinavian-American voter.

    There is no Antifa worm in existence that doesn't also support militant feminism and queer licentiousness.
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  • “… the simple fact is that the center of gravity of the old and storied Democratic Party has moved to the far left: it has accepted an extremist intellectual and operational template and pushes a narrative that actually makes the views and vision of the old Soviet Communists appear rather mild, even conservative, in comparison.”

    Absolutely!

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  • That someone like Keith Ellison is now a mainstream Democrat confirms the horrible truth that the Democrat party is full-Stalinist, Worse, the Republicans act like the Russian Orthodox Church co-opted by Uncle Joe and the CPSU. We on the right are on our own.

    See:

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/09/post-charlottesville-we-are-on-our-own.html

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  • Just how did Minnesota end up with a Muslim in Congress? Well, I’m guessing that will be the thousands of Somalian ‘refugees’ imported in the last 15 years or so. If ever you needed an example of immigration leading to representation and toxic opposition to the native population…

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    Yes, but far from exclusively. MN is a state totally defined by Scandinavian 'niceness,' which is always going to start with bending over backwards to find all the good in all peoples who are not white and move from there into total promotion of The Other.

    Because Ellison so proudly rants his hate for all whites who do not share his hatred of everything to do with the few barely surviving aspects of Christendom, the Good Whites of MN would have elected him even without any Somalis added to the mix.
    , @Moi
    Relax. Jews in Congress far outnumber the Muslims.
    , @Minnesota Mary
    You nailed it! Minnesota is now the Somalian Capital of the World.
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  • Be kind to the poor guy.
    Just because Ellison is the Deputy Chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) doesn’t mean that he isn’t stupid.

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    So true. After all, he may be an asshole, but at least he's stupid.
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  • Have any of these writers read “Tragedy and Hope?” This left vs. right political dialectic is false. There is no difference between Fascists and Communists. They are all tyrants herding us to adhere to the global world order. The “Secret Societies” that both Quigley and JFK mentioned are still operating at full capacity. It’s all a big wrestling match (a.k.a. bread and circuses). Boycott everything.

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  • So we have been blessed with three separate members of the Bush clan: Prescott, GHW and GW.

    Each bad in their own inimitable way, but each in their own way manifesting their WASP sensibilities and sense of entitlement.

    Proving once again the old dictum that the apple never falls far from the tree.

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    Or as Bush would say, the tree from the apple.
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  • “many Republicans in Congress …. seem to take their marching orders from the illegal immigration lobby and their big business Chamber of Commerce donors.”

    No they “take their marching orders from” Jew / Israel lobbies.
    Israel has very strict immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY while Jews / Zionists demand massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    Israel will pay African migrants to leave, to jail if they don’t accept.

    http://news.trust.org/item/20180103115805-egc1s

    “Netanyahu has called the migrants’ presence a threat to Israel’s social fabric and Jewish character, and one government minister has referred to them as “a cancer”.”

    Israel to shut migrant centre and deport Africans

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/israel-to-shut-migrant-centre-and-deport-africans/

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    The heart of the matter.
    BTW, Keith Ellison has fantasies , I bet, of violence let loose on us.
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  • Republicans are spineless worms.
    Trump is a Godsend.
    If Hillary would have won then she would have filled up the US with emigrant scum to such an extent that Democrats would rule the US until eternity.

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    Till eternity or till the collapse of the Republic. Whichever came first.
    , @SimpleHandle
    With Trump pushing hard for a DACA amnesty I'm not so sure that he's the Godsend we had hoped for. After all, Trump has long been boastful, inconsistent, pugnacious, and vain. I put up with all that because I thought we had a candidate serious about enforcing immigration law. But now I feel cheated.
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  • The most recent of incident of Cultural Marxist commissars refusing to admit that dissidents are to be treated as fellow citizens is the crazed female professor who accosted the NPI’s Richard Spencer while he was exercising at a Alexandria gym. She, recognizing him from coverage of the election campaign, started haranguing him and calling him...
  • Reading through much of the commentary about the Frankfurt School, I’ve become curious about the links between that group and the Rhodes-Milner/Atlanticist network which has given us “Fabian Socialism”. The Tavistock Institute seems to be one name that comes up in association with both of these social engineering groups. The mad science practiced there upon impoverished children ought to cause easily as much revulsion as the crimes laid at the feet of “Nazi Doctors”.

    Perhaps the Atlanticists celebrated by Prof Quigley found the Frankfurt School a useful way to insinuate phony “Marxists” into American academia?

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  • @Clark Westwood

    The Beltway Right operates like front parties under the old Soviet system. Like those parties, our Establishment Right tries to “fit in” by dutifully undermining those to its the Right and slowly absorbing the social positions and heroes of the Left.
     
    The Beltway Right live in a subculture dominated by the Left -- Charles Murray's Beltway superzips, if you will. Their sense of where the center is has been maladjusted by a permanent shift to the Left. That's why the 2016 election caught them so completely flat-footed. They have no idea what the rest of the country is thinking.

    Most actual leftists as opposed to “liberals” (or cultural Marxists) say very much the same thing about the Beltway Left. Everyones fighting a rancid center that exists to protect a technocratic elite that controls the two loci of modern power: the intelligence collection apparat and the money creation system.

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  • Tucker Carlson and his guest Dan Bongino raised what you might call a look-away issue: Looting. As the two looked on at footage of looters in post-Irma Florida, TV talker and guest volunteered that "this" was "not about race." "This," presumably, being a reference to the looting. Here was one of those, "Who are you...
  • @yeah
    Ms. Mercer writes with much passion, much force, and some truth about the foibles of the loony left. Unfortunately, she - and a lot of very smart and educated folks who ought to know better - affix the label "Cultural Marxism" to whatever they don't like. Many of us moderate folk also dislike much about the loony left; but we would rather knock down the real thing and not some straw man erected in haste and without thought by craftsmen lacking basic knowledge of what they are setting up for the express purpose of being knocked down.

    Now, Marx was all about who owns the means of production in a society, the resulting class relations, the economic crisis and collapse that follows concentration of wealth, and other such fairly technical and philosophical stuff, reading which used to put most folk to sleep, even the faithful communists. Had Marx written about trannies, gay rights, bathroom rights, race relations, and the other psychopathologies that curse our age, he may well have been the mascot of the DNC and the loony left. No Ms. Mercer, Marx had zero position on what you pretend he was about. Better do some reading in that area or, if the effort seems a waste of time, at least stop labelling sparrows as crows.

    There ain't no such thing as the "left" in the good ol' USA. Never has been, perhaps never will be. The US has had "leftist democrats", "leftist progressives", leftist trade unionists (in the distant past) and other such make-believe left. And now we have the "Loony left", of certifiable lunacy but make-believe left content.

    The people who fund the lunatics know what they are doing. They and their media label these folk as "Progressives" (to be sold in the name of human progress) or as "Liberals" (to be sold as kind and reasonable). Their agenda includes everything that will maintain the flow of dollars in their direction, keep full-spectrum control firmly in their hands, and keep everyone else bewildered and at each others' throats. Promoting identity politics and political correctness, fostering obsessions with minority rights, rationalizing selective acts of looting - these are all part of the same agenda. You do have to read up on both Marx and Machiavelli (Machiavelli is mandatory, Marx be taken as an elective) to understand what is going on, because the problem is not simply isolated acts of looting and its encouragement by the puppet masters. We face an enemy far, far cleverer than the straw men that are set up to make us feel better.

    A well thought out comment. It’s easy to just come out & blame Blacks for their “predicament” but you have to admit there’s been an awful lot of pre-arranged monkeying around with Black life – the Hollywoods Gangsta / Thug life meme & there can be no denying that young Blacks have been deliberately targeted for hard drug addiction by the CIA & that there’s a policy of imprisoning young Black males. It takes a very determined mother (usually by herself) or rarely both parents, to guide a teenage Black youth through the pitfalls of gangs & drugs & get them into sport or to excel at school so the ghettos can be left far behind.

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  • I still recall a riot form the early 70′s. A then prominent “newscaster” was doing a “stand up”. Behind him a black kid smashed a window and grabbed a TV. The commentator then explained to America that in that day and age, if you didn’t have a TV, no one could blame you for stealing one.

    Did anyone else notice that although the “Cajun Navy” had mobility and opportunity, I recall no reports of them engaging in looting. I guess “deplorables” have more respect for private property.

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  • @Sane Left Libertarian

    “when conservatives hearken back to the “Democrats’” Welfare State to explain away the color of crime; they, too, are making the Cultural Marxist argument.”

    Exactly!
     
    This is where the conversation should take place. LBJ is no more responsible for this behavior than Trump. The signature part of the War On Poverty was Medicare, which saved a lot of seniors of all races, creeds, colors, and genders from destitute "golden years" (and which, BTW every single Nordic country and most others have some variation of). I don't see seniors burning and looting cities.

    If group A is destroyed by largesse, and group B is dignified by largesse, did the largesse create the difference in the groups’ characters?

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  • @Stalin
    Well said Comrade Mao. Obviously people with gold chains, air conditioning, cars, microwave and giant tvs have no capitalist materials and therefor have no stake in a Wall Street dominated society. They are only following the tenets of your little red book chairman. Who was it who said that "power grows out of the barrel of a gun/"

    Clearly Obama's red guard are simply securing the funding necessary for the next step of the glorious revolution by reliefing the whites, koreans, jews, etc of their stolen wealth.

    As the SPLC and academia have demonstrated time and time again the ranks of such looters is far greater than during the depths of the Depression because of the growing class awareness of the glorious BLM movement as spread by the godlike Obama, blessed be the prophet's name.


    So it is evident to the casual observer that Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese. Hindus, Irish, red neck looters are far more common than Obama's children. And as you have observed their numbers are growing.

    We must stop the reactionary forces from pointing out the obvious or unmasking the work of our useful idiots in the media, academia, and labor unions. Smash the fascists by detsroying free speec, freedom of assembly, and their endless lies about black criminality.


    We all know blacks built the pyramids and wre kings of glorious civilizations that were unmatched in their splendor and achievements.

    people with gold chains, air conditioning, cars, microwave and giant tvs

    Interesting fantasies. How often do you have them?

    Perhaps you should consider finally getting out of your mother’s basement and moving right into an inner-city ghetto, since people there, apparently, are swimming in luxury…

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  • @Mao Cheng Ji
    Well, sure, people who have no property can't be expected to have any respect for the institution of private property. And with their number growing, the system is getting less and less stable, requires more and more violence to stay intact. But I don't think this has anything to do with any "Cultural Marxism", which isn't really a thing.

    Well said Comrade Mao. Obviously people with gold chains, air conditioning, cars, microwave and giant tvs have no capitalist materials and therefor have no stake in a Wall Street dominated society. They are only following the tenets of your little red book chairman. Who was it who said that “power grows out of the barrel of a gun/”

    Clearly Obama’s red guard are simply securing the funding necessary for the next step of the glorious revolution by reliefing the whites, koreans, jews, etc of their stolen wealth.

    As the SPLC and academia have demonstrated time and time again the ranks of such looters is far greater than during the depths of the Depression because of the growing class awareness of the glorious BLM movement as spread by the godlike Obama, blessed be the prophet’s name.

    So it is evident to the casual observer that Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese. Hindus, Irish, red neck looters are far more common than Obama’s children. And as you have observed their numbers are growing.

    We must stop the reactionary forces from pointing out the obvious or unmasking the work of our useful idiots in the media, academia, and labor unions. Smash the fascists by detsroying free speec, freedom of assembly, and their endless lies about black criminality.

    We all know blacks built the pyramids and wre kings of glorious civilizations that were unmatched in their splendor and achievements.

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    people with gold chains, air conditioning, cars, microwave and giant tvs
     
    Interesting fantasies. How often do you have them?

    Perhaps you should consider finally getting out of your mother's basement and moving right into an inner-city ghetto, since people there, apparently, are swimming in luxury...
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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Not just lower IQs, but higher testosterone, greater extroversion, more impulsive, limited future orientation, etc.

    Another interesting difference is a 5% frequency of the 2L allele of the MAO-A gene among US black males compared to a .1% frequency among US white males.

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  • @Jason Liu
    Excellent comment. 99% of people don't know what Cultural Marxism is. Even a lot of the people spouting it can't agree on a single definition.

    People who use that term have no understanding of persuasion, effective speaking, or how to package ideas for the mainstream.

    If you mean leftist, say leftist.
    If you mean SJW, say SJW.
    If you mean communist, say communist.

    Or come up with a clearer, more direct word.

    All forms of leftism are subsumed by it.

    In the USA it’s Progressivism (or communism.)
    In the UK it’s Fabianism.

    But all forms of non-Economic Marxism are simply subsets of the Gnostic Heresy (AKA Progressivism….which brings us full circle.)

    SJW’s are Progressives shorn of Christianity, aren’t they?

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  • @sulai daffy
    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr - Descartes and the Fallacy of Cartesian Dualism
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1u6UmJ3fk&index=10&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&t=1279s

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr - The Scientific Revolution Part 1 - The Mechanization of Our Worldview
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ3KMpBSDo0&t=30s&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&index=2

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr - The Scientific Revolution Part 2 - The Reign of Quantity
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPArAiRp62k&t=22s&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&index=3

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr - The Fallacy of the Greek Miracle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AMwCZmdC_U&t=27s&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&index=4

    Dr Seyyed Hossein Nasr - Nature Abhors Metals - Alchemy lecture
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-lZJKms_hg&t=107s&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&index=7

    Thanks sulai. Dr. Nasr is definitely a great resource on these topics.

    Peace.

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  • @Talha
    I just think LARP is silly, that's all. I don't have any moral objections to it.

    The reason I call what these people are doing LARP is because they look like a bunch of fools playing dress up and banging at each other with sticks and shields and other stuff - it's just fisticuffs and hooliganism.

    These people (both sides) have no clue what it means when the stuff gets real. When you go up against the state and it decides to run you over with tanks or give the orders for its soldiers to fire live ammunition into the crowd. If you want to know about the real deal scenarios, I suggest reading details on Tienamen Square or the Rabaa Massacre.

    If you don't like me using LARP, I'm fine calling it cosplay.

    Peace.

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr – Descartes and the Fallacy of Cartesian Dualism

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr – The Scientific Revolution Part 1 – The Mechanization of Our Worldview

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr – The Scientific Revolution Part 2 – The Reign of Quantity

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr – The Fallacy of the Greek Miracle

    Dr Seyyed Hossein Nasr – Nature Abhors Metals – Alchemy lecture

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    Thanks sulai. Dr. Nasr is definitely a great resource on these topics.

    Peace.
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  • @Anon
    While I do not as a matter of fact have any friends who LARP*, neither do I see what you have against the practice.

    I don't mind political activity (such is part of how our republic is supposed to function) but I do mind gangsterism.

    *I think this is other than you mean-- thuggery in dress-up is still thuggery, though, and I prefer to call it that rather than slander what seems to be an innocent form of fun.

    I just think LARP is silly, that’s all. I don’t have any moral objections to it.

    The reason I call what these people are doing LARP is because they look like a bunch of fools playing dress up and banging at each other with sticks and shields and other stuff – it’s just fisticuffs and hooliganism.

    These people (both sides) have no clue what it means when the stuff gets real. When you go up against the state and it decides to run you over with tanks or give the orders for its soldiers to fire live ammunition into the crowd. If you want to know about the real deal scenarios, I suggest reading details on Tienamen Square or the Rabaa Massacre.

    If you don’t like me using LARP, I’m fine calling it cosplay.

    Peace.

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    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr - Descartes and the Fallacy of Cartesian Dualism
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1u6UmJ3fk&index=10&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&t=1279s

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr - The Scientific Revolution Part 1 - The Mechanization of Our Worldview
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ3KMpBSDo0&t=30s&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&index=2

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr - The Scientific Revolution Part 2 - The Reign of Quantity
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPArAiRp62k&t=22s&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&index=3

    Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr - The Fallacy of the Greek Miracle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AMwCZmdC_U&t=27s&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&index=4

    Dr Seyyed Hossein Nasr - Nature Abhors Metals - Alchemy lecture
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-lZJKms_hg&t=107s&list=PL6Asao85VeS-RpIvLByX1BT5Cxw1qcWeF&index=7
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  • @Stan d Mute
    It's hilarious to me how I can shred a Christian and he either just shuts down or silently prays for my poor baptized soul, but a Mohammedan feels he has to defend his primitive mythology.

    Funnier how so damn much of Mohammedan teaching is just "how to wipe your ass." http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2149/viewall/personal-hygiene

    I guess Mohammed knew his audience well huh? How nasty and stupid musta people be to need a sky fairy to tell them to wipe their asses?

    But regarding these old mythologies in general, note the things the great givers of wisdom provided and so too what they omitted. Did YHWH or Yeshua or Hammy explain gravity? Provide insight into how DNA conceptually mirrors AI software code?

    http://tia.si/comparing-dna-computer-software

    At least our ancestral mythologies attempted to explain thunder and lightning, the sun and earth and moon. Jews were taught to avoid broads on the rag and Hamsters were taught to wipe their asses.

    Do our myths define us? Is it that Hamsters know that abandoning their mythology would lead directly to 1.6 Billion shitty asses? Or are Jews terrified that if they forget their myths men will bathe in menstrual blood? Yeshuans quake in fear that without their holy myths neighbors' wives will be coveted?

    Maybe big questions like DNA/AI coding & hardware, gravity, time, etc are all just too big for contemplation. Maybe Talha Paper can enlighten us.

    Hey Stan,

    Anon – seems to be right. You bring up a lot of straw man arguments and ad hominem; sky fairies, psychotic visions, etc. I mean, you’re not really an objective observer in this whole thing are you? What purpose does it serve you to believe in a religion or framework that tells you how to live life? You want to live life as you please, guilt-free and anything that gets in your way, well, you can certainly come up with justifications to pooh-pooh it.

    I don’t know the kind of Christians you debated, but we will certainly pray for you, but if you swing, we might land an elbow to the throat. So, to commence…

    I don’t really care to convince you of the merits of Islam. I have met plenty of converts from other religions or non-religion. None of them said; I converted because I thought washing my hands, face AND feet before prayer was so cool! They accept the larger picture and answers to the big questions and conform (submit) to what the corollary expects of them. If you don’t like the doctrine, it makes zero difference to my life – take it up with your Creator when you see Him. Tell Him you did not like the fact that His book didn’t contain insights into DNA or how to build a steam engine or light bulb or how to combat foot fungus, etc. Or that you refuse to follow a 7th century Arab. He might take your objections into consideration…or not – your afterlife, your choice.

    As far as materialism being the bees-knees…You came to a fork in the road and decided that there is nothing beyond the observable senses – a rational route to take. Others took the other rational route; that there are things that exist beyond the observable senses. Having adopted a framework, your conclusions on all religious/spiritual matters are prefunctory. Very rational men like Leibniz, Newton, Farraday and others had no problem believing in a Divine Being. To this day, the majority of scientists do not believe there is a conflict between science and religious belief:
    “When asked about terms of conflict between religion and science, Ecklund noted that only a minority of scientists in each regional context believe that science and religion are in conflict. In the U.K. – one of the most secular countries studied – only 32 percent of scientists characterized the science-faith interface as one of conflict. In the U.S., this number was only 29 percent. And 25 percent of Hong Kong scientists, 27 percent of Indian scientists and 23 percent of Taiwanese scientists believed science and religion can coexist and be used to help each other.”

    http://news.rice.edu/2015/12/03/first-worldwide-survey-of-religion-and-science-no-not-all-scientists-are-atheists/

    One of my own previous teachers is a qualified scholar of the Hanafi school, a spiritual guide in the Naqshbandi Order and an accomplished medical doctor; a pathologist specializing in molecular genetic pathology:

    http://pureway.org/shaykh-omar/

    In observing Western and other cultures, it seems the best way to put your populations into free fall is to make them more and more materialist/atheist. Which is funny because, the entire “purpose” of organisms in the Darwinian framework is to adapt to change and selective pressures and propagate their genetic code to the next generation. That’s how we know an organism is “fit” in an evolutionary sense when the dust clears – survival of the fittest. So why do atheists tend to be those with maybe one kid or none? There are exceptions of course, but have you met many atheists with big families? I think I have more children than all the atheists at my work place combined. But that is the entire purpose according to the atheist/materialist framework. Furthermore, it is well known that atheists or irreligious people have a significantly higher suicide attempt (and actualization) rate than religious folks:

    http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.12.2303

    So why are materialists failures according to their own framework?

    This anthropologist thinks it has to do with an evolutionary method for getting rid of too much genetic mutational load; atheists/materialists seem to be humanity’s way of culling the herd in a time when the same sort of historic selective pressures are no longer present:

    Furthermore, you mention you chose to reject religion at a young age. But you already know that there really is no choosing according to your framework. We are biological machines – our genetics are determinant. You can only describe “choice” in a meta-abstraction of observed behavior – but it’s all really just chain reactions at the molecular level. There is no ghost in the machine – we don’t have souls that make moral or other choices; the reason you are atheist is because of your genetic makeup, same as why I’m Muslim:

    https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-illusion-of-free-will

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  • @Anon

    Am I missing something?
     
    Yes.

    Ptolemy VIII is the child of Ptolemy V and Cleopatra I, as is (presumably) Cleopatra II, his sister. Ptolemy X is the child of Ptolemy VIII and Cleopatra III, who is in turn the daughter of Cleopatra II (above mentioned) and her brother Ptolemy VI who is presumably of the same parentage as her (P. V and C. I).

    Thanks for clarifying.

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  • @Stan d Mute

    there is no where for a legit Black family to go to under those circumstances, thus have the most to lose from this bad end result.
     
    You had me right up to this point. And I used to agree in full (minus your churchy bit at the end). I always pitied the Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell types. Then serious thought on the subject overcame me and I remembered that these unicorns are the most privileged in our society. Plus, your legit black family exists in the reality that 30+% of African males are convicted felons and there are mountains of data showing that children of these African unicorns are dumber than children of poor whites. As our great great grandfathers may have said, "there's a nigger in every woodpile." Crudely worded by today's standards perhaps, but no less true.

    Also, don't be cavalier about a break up of America. Given our military and civilian weaponry it would be catastrophic perhaps globally. I can imagine only one peaceful way out of this mess we inherited: reparations + repatriation. In other words, supporting Calypso Louie's efforts to lead the Africans back to their promised land and away from us white devils. $1,000,000 cash to each who can prove slave ancestry and $500,000 cash to those who cannot would do the job I think along with first class one way airfare to any African airport. Given their current and future costs to America those prices are like buying Manhattan for a handful of beads.

    Repatriation back to Africa (possibly Liberia) could be the answer if accepted … but you will not get the a) political will to do so; b) afro americans are too addicted to free living entitlements; c) leftist won’t let their manipulated useful idiots go. Therefore thats a pretty dead issue in reality (since Lincoln proposed it), because it is never going to happen.

    Also, don’t be cavalier about a break up of America. Given our military and civilian weaponry it would be catastrophic perhaps globally.

    Cavalier is the wrong word. I am simply acknowledging an unpleasant reality that if things continue as they are, without any abatement, that this will be our eventual destination (whenever that will be).

    I am a paleocon who is allergic to utopian fantasies, whether communist, or anarcho capitalist, so I am not looking forward to our national breakup (besides, my personal desires are completely irrelevant in this regard, because either I am right about this, or wrong).

    I merely acknowledge that this is our probable future if this continues, especially when our national priority is to provide perpetual entitlements to our afro citizens, without any accountability (and judging how much afro racial justice stories occupy the majority of MSM time, it will remain our national priority).

    The canaries in the coal mine is when smaller government bodies (states, counties, and municipalities) start to go bankrupt. At first the Federal govt will attempt to bail them out, but in the long term it will be unsustainable. We are not able to emotionally grasp this because of a normalcy bias towards our current prosperity. However, prosperity is not the normal human condition in history, hardship and struggle is.

    If we continue to misallocate our financial resources as we do, in an attempt to appease the unappeasable afros, that is where we will eventually end up. And I see no reversal on the political horizon; in fact, I see an acceleration. Lets hope that I am wrong.

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    Always do math yourself when it is simple,...
     
    Good idea. I tried reconciling your statement:

    Since all of the ancestry of Cleopatra VII traces to these two she is ~31.25% Persian, or ~(1/3) Persian.
     
    with the statement I quoted earlier:

    Doing some rough math there are 8 Principal people who are responsible for the Ptolemaic column of whom 6 were greek, one was half Greek, and one was a quarter Greek. So… not getting in to the intricacies of how the intermarriages worked, the total percentage of Persian blood would have been low.
     
    While it's true Cleopatra VII traces her ancestry to Ptolemy V and Cleopatra I, there are, according the the genealogy tree you referenced, other descendants of hers who are not related to this couple's bloodline, namely: Cleopatra II (her paternal great great grandmother), Ptolemy VIII (her maternal great grandfather), and Ptolemy X (her maternal grandfather). Since these individuals are not Persian, my math suggests that Cleopatra II is less than 15% Persian, about half of your estimate.

    Am I missing something?

    Am I missing something?

    Yes.

    Ptolemy VIII is the child of Ptolemy V and Cleopatra I, as is (presumably) Cleopatra II, his sister. Ptolemy X is the child of Ptolemy VIII and Cleopatra III, who is in turn the daughter of Cleopatra II (above mentioned) and her brother Ptolemy VI who is presumably of the same parentage as her (P. V and C. I).

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  • @Anon
    Yes, you're on the talk page of the article I linked. Cleopatra I is ~50% Persian (the figure I used) and Ptolemy V is ~12.5% Persian. Since all of the ancestry of Cleopatra VII traces to these two she is ~31.25% Persian, or ~(1/3) Persian.

    Always do math yourself when it is simple, and trust anonymous wiki contributors to the extent you trust anonymous Unz contributors.

    Always do math yourself when it is simple,…

    Good idea. I tried reconciling your statement:

    Since all of the ancestry of Cleopatra VII traces to these two she is ~31.25% Persian, or ~(1/3) Persian.

    with the statement I quoted earlier:

    Doing some rough math there are 8 Principal people who are responsible for the Ptolemaic column of whom 6 were greek, one was half Greek, and one was a quarter Greek. So… not getting in to the intricacies of how the intermarriages worked, the total percentage of Persian blood would have been low.

    While it’s true Cleopatra VII traces her ancestry to Ptolemy V and Cleopatra I, there are, according the the genealogy tree you referenced, other descendants of hers who are not related to this couple’s bloodline, namely: Cleopatra II (her paternal great great grandmother), Ptolemy VIII (her maternal great grandfather), and Ptolemy X (her maternal grandfather). Since these individuals are not Persian, my math suggests that Cleopatra II is less than 15% Persian, about half of your estimate.

    Am I missing something?

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    Am I missing something?
     
    Yes.

    Ptolemy VIII is the child of Ptolemy V and Cleopatra I, as is (presumably) Cleopatra II, his sister. Ptolemy X is the child of Ptolemy VIII and Cleopatra III, who is in turn the daughter of Cleopatra II (above mentioned) and her brother Ptolemy VI who is presumably of the same parentage as her (P. V and C. I).
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  • @Stan d Mute

    you’re not really interested in serious discussion
     
    A serious discussion of what? An omniscient omnipotent entity that revealed itself to some random Jewish bastard carpenter, a lunatic in a cave, a child molesting psychopath on a mountaintop, a washed up sci-fi writer, a broke writer sponging off his friends, or the many lost to history who began our ancient myths? Do you seriously suggest I give more credence to one myth over another based on its number of current year adherents?

    Or would it be more "serious" to discuss something we know is real like Gravity? Or maybe DNAs role in human intelligence and behavior? Or how Lysenkoism is integral to Cultural Marxism mythology just as YHWH mythology is integral to multiculturalism?

    As I said, since you are not interested in serious, reasoned, or intelligent discussion, your auditors have the choice either of ignoring you or of engaging in a contest of insults, the latter of which takes up time too valuable to most to use in this way.

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  • What would Cultural Marxists say about this:

    https://ds9a.nl/dna/

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  • @Stan d Mute
    If they aren't worshippers of an invisible sky fairy then what? I'm being kind here. They're worshipping halucinatory madmen at best and psychopaths at worst. I was born, baptized, and raised in proud WASPy Yeshuanity - descended of Quakers in fact. But I've yet to find the merest scintilla of real evidence that an invisible sky fairy exists in over 50 years of diligent searching. Instead, what I've found is the somewhat depressing but infinitely more interesting universe of Reality where immutable laws appear to exist such as Gravity and Death and Entropy. Further, we are decoding (i.e. physics, biology, mathematics, chemistry) these laws and gradually understanding our sense data. Sky fairies never explained disease to us nor taught us to avoid, harness, and defeat lightning. I stopped needing guidance on toilet habits as a toddler but I recognize some still need a sky fairy to so guide them..

    descended of Quakers in fact

    Ah, everything becomes clear.

    If they aren’t worshippers of an invisible sky fairy then what?

    Here is a good introduction: http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2010/09/classical-theism.html .

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  • @attilathehen
    Here's an interesting article about Jesus. https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/08/19/the-worlds-debt-to-jesus-christ/

    It's easy for us to dismiss Christianity in the 21st century. Your Northern European ancestors were Christian for hundreds of years. Islam is not important in the West. We defeated the Muslims over the centuries and the problems we have with them today are now caused by the Roman Catholic Church and Zioevangizers.

    This is why I said to Stan that we cannot get rid of 2000 years of historical Christianity in the West. It is woven into our history. What we can do is update the churches in that we get rid of the "universal church" belief that is destroying us. I was a cradle RCCer but the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. This is the starting point. As for the Jews, they are not God's chosen. This myth is supported by the Zioevangizers and some RCCers. The state of Israel needs to exist to send people who claim to be Jews to it. Also, I don't need religion to argue against polygamy, gay marriage, most divorce and abortion. But cucks in the West can't go there. Christianity works well with natural law and observation. And IQ, which is related to race, is the way to go. This is what we need to work on.

    You are correct that we cannot wipe out 2000 years of Christian history. There are also practical arguments against polygamy, gay marriage, most divorce and abortion. The official culture of the Soviet Union, after a brief flirtation with “free love” became quite socially conservative. Even in the 1980s, the Commies were tough on gays, lesbians and junkies. It’s called survival and, on top of that, flourishing.

    The fawning of many evangelicals on Jews disgusts me. It reminds me of what someone said about Western-Soviet relations in the Brezhnev era: They spit in our face and we call it dew.

    The Roman Church is blasted for its “conservatism,” but, in reality, it’s only conservative on a few family issues: marriage, life and reproduction. Economically, it’s flaming leftist (I called it the Roman Communist Church) and favors open borders to the West as a way to fill the pews. The Protestants and Mormons often favor open borders as a way to convert immigrants. Many have left the Roman Church.

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  • @Anon

    It’s hilarious to me how I can shred a Christian and he either just shuts down or silently prays for my poor baptized soul, but a Mohammedan feels he has to defend his primitive mythology.
     
    They do this because your juvenile belief that you have "shredded" them, your use of silly terms like "sky fairy", etc. show that you're not really interested in serious discussion. Talha is just more patient, is all, possibly due to the degree of Asiatic in his makeup.

    you’re not really interested in serious discussion

    A serious discussion of what? An omniscient omnipotent entity that revealed itself to some random Jewish bastard carpenter, a lunatic in a cave, a child molesting psychopath on a mountaintop, a washed up sci-fi writer, a broke writer sponging off his friends, or the many lost to history who began our ancient myths? Do you seriously suggest I give more credence to one myth over another based on its number of current year adherents?

    Or would it be more “serious” to discuss something we know is real like Gravity? Or maybe DNAs role in human intelligence and behavior? Or how Lysenkoism is integral to Cultural Marxism mythology just as YHWH mythology is integral to multiculturalism?

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    As I said, since you are not interested in serious, reasoned, or intelligent discussion, your auditors have the choice either of ignoring you or of engaging in a contest of insults, the latter of which takes up time too valuable to most to use in this way.
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  • @Anon

    It’s hilarious to me how I can shred a Christian and he either just shuts down or silently prays for my poor baptized soul, but a Mohammedan feels he has to defend his primitive mythology.
     
    They do this because your juvenile belief that you have "shredded" them, your use of silly terms like "sky fairy", etc. show that you're not really interested in serious discussion. Talha is just more patient, is all, possibly due to the degree of Asiatic in his makeup.

    If they aren’t worshippers of an invisible sky fairy then what? I’m being kind here. They’re worshipping halucinatory madmen at best and psychopaths at worst. I was born, baptized, and raised in proud WASPy Yeshuanity – descended of Quakers in fact. But I’ve yet to find the merest scintilla of real evidence that an invisible sky fairy exists in over 50 years of diligent searching. Instead, what I’ve found is the somewhat depressing but infinitely more interesting universe of Reality where immutable laws appear to exist such as Gravity and Death and Entropy. Further, we are decoding (i.e. physics, biology, mathematics, chemistry) these laws and gradually understanding our sense data. Sky fairies never explained disease to us nor taught us to avoid, harness, and defeat lightning. I stopped needing guidance on toilet habits as a toddler but I recognize some still need a sky fairy to so guide them..

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    descended of Quakers in fact
     
    Ah, everything becomes clear.

    If they aren’t worshippers of an invisible sky fairy then what?
     
    Here is a good introduction: http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2010/09/classical-theism.html .
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  • @geokat62

    ...do the work yourself.
     
    Here's some related info I managed to pull from another source:

    The Persian ancestry is the Ptolemy III married a daughter of Antiochos I and his wife Straonice named Apamea II who was 1/4 Persian. Also Ptolemy V married Cleopatra I of Syra, who was the daughter of Laodice III and Antiochos III, now the Persian ancestry of the Seleukid dynasty at this point was very low, as after Antiochos I's marriage the dynasty was marked for the time with marriages to Greek women, however, Laodice III was the daughter of Laodice II who was the daughter of Antiochos II, and Laodice I, and King Mithridates of Pontus, who would thus have a fair amount of Persian ancestry. Meaning that Cleopatra I would have been roughly 40-50% Persian. At this point no further outside marriages occurred. So there are two sources of Persian blood, one of whom was 1/4 Persian and the other of whom was ~1/2 Persian. Doing some rough math there are 8 Principal people who are responsible for the Ptolemaic column of whom 6 were greek, one was half Greek, and one was a quarter Greek. So... not getting in to the intricacies of how the intermarriages worked, the total percentage of Persian blood would have been low.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cleopatra
     
    Based on this info, it appears that Cleopatra can trace her Persian ancestry from two sources:

    1) Ptolemy III's wife, Apamea II who was 1/4 Persian; and
    2) Cleopatra I who was 40-50% Persian

    Are you working with these same assumptions or something else?

    Yes, you’re on the talk page of the article I linked. Cleopatra I is ~50% Persian (the figure I used) and Ptolemy V is ~12.5% Persian. Since all of the ancestry of Cleopatra VII traces to these two she is ~31.25% Persian, or ~(1/3) Persian.

    Always do math yourself when it is simple, and trust anonymous wiki contributors to the extent you trust anonymous Unz contributors.

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    Always do math yourself when it is simple,...
     
    Good idea. I tried reconciling your statement:

    Since all of the ancestry of Cleopatra VII traces to these two she is ~31.25% Persian, or ~(1/3) Persian.
     
    with the statement I quoted earlier:

    Doing some rough math there are 8 Principal people who are responsible for the Ptolemaic column of whom 6 were greek, one was half Greek, and one was a quarter Greek. So… not getting in to the intricacies of how the intermarriages worked, the total percentage of Persian blood would have been low.
     
    While it's true Cleopatra VII traces her ancestry to Ptolemy V and Cleopatra I, there are, according the the genealogy tree you referenced, other descendants of hers who are not related to this couple's bloodline, namely: Cleopatra II (her paternal great great grandmother), Ptolemy VIII (her maternal great grandfather), and Ptolemy X (her maternal grandfather). Since these individuals are not Persian, my math suggests that Cleopatra II is less than 15% Persian, about half of your estimate.

    Am I missing something?

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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    In many Moslem countries, the majority of marriages are between first or second cousins. It keeps the money within the family and the loyalty. The downside is lower IQs and high rates of miscarriages, stillbirths and disabled babies. It also fosters an extreme nepotistic attachment to family. Moslem cultures are noted for their lack of civil mindedness and concern beyond one's own tribe.

    It ain’t just Mohamsters:

    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/4611-consanguinity-among-jews

    Remember – Hammy is to Jew as Mormon is to Yeshuanity and Yeshuanity is to Jew. You’re all worshippers of YHWH. It’s Jewish mythology with Arab or early American or Greco-Roman/Northern European culture and mythologies blended in.

    And maybe a whole lot of people are unable to logically conclude buggering ones brother, impregnating ones sister or mother, and shitting where you sleep are all really stupid ideas without the command of an invisible sky fairy to guide them. Can an IQ of 65-90 get there without their mythology and fears of wrathful sky fairies?

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  • @attilathehen
    Here's an interesting article about Jesus. https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/08/19/the-worlds-debt-to-jesus-christ/

    It's easy for us to dismiss Christianity in the 21st century. Your Northern European ancestors were Christian for hundreds of years. Islam is not important in the West. We defeated the Muslims over the centuries and the problems we have with them today are now caused by the Roman Catholic Church and Zioevangizers.

    This is why I said to Stan that we cannot get rid of 2000 years of historical Christianity in the West. It is woven into our history. What we can do is update the churches in that we get rid of the "universal church" belief that is destroying us. I was a cradle RCCer but the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. This is the starting point. As for the Jews, they are not God's chosen. This myth is supported by the Zioevangizers and some RCCers. The state of Israel needs to exist to send people who claim to be Jews to it. Also, I don't need religion to argue against polygamy, gay marriage, most divorce and abortion. But cucks in the West can't go there. Christianity works well with natural law and observation. And IQ, which is related to race, is the way to go. This is what we need to work on.

    Christianity Science works well with natural law and observation. And IQ, which is related to race, is the way to go. This is what we need to work on.

    That was an easy fix.

    Still need to work on your severe cognitive dissonance regarding Jews while you pray to YHWH and Yeshua though…

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  • @joef

    the majority of black births were to women below the one-time average black IQ of 85 and the gangbangers set the moral tone of black culture.
     
    Your comments sums up one of the roots of the problem well. My critical response towards afro american behavior is exactly that: a criticism of their cultural antisocial behavior patterns, not for having dark skin color itself (despite what limo libs & progressives claim).

    Our race relations are actually in the afros hands, not ours. They are the ones who need to reform their antagonism; and if they did not pay attention to radical leftist progressives, that agenda would become mostly disempowered (which is probably the New Left greatest fear).

    If afro americans chose to get along with their host society they would receive reciprocal treatment by the rest of society as well. But thats where I see no hope, because afros refuse to let go of their animosity, and belief in perpetual entitlements. Of course this is not a sustainable situation in the long term.

    The ones I feel sorry for are the few rational honest hard working Black family men, who do not buy into all this radical afro american nonsense. What will he do if things devolve into regional failed state conditions in this country? Afro violence will definitely target Whites, and the Whites who refuse to be willing victims will incorporate a shoot first, ask questions later, method in order to survive violent chaos.

    Under such tumultuous conditions, there is no where for a legit Black family to go to under those circumstances, thus have the most to lose from this bad end result. [my only advice is to stay away from identity politics, and establish your social capital within a community of trusted neighbors, especially a Church - - and you would have my prayers, because you are going to very screwed].

    there is no where for a legit Black family to go to under those circumstances, thus have the most to lose from this bad end result.

    You had me right up to this point. And I used to agree in full (minus your churchy bit at the end). I always pitied the Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell types. Then serious thought on the subject overcame me and I remembered that these unicorns are the most privileged in our society. Plus, your legit black family exists in the reality that 30+% of African males are convicted felons and there are mountains of data showing that children of these African unicorns are dumber than children of poor whites. As our great great grandfathers may have said, “there’s a nigger in every woodpile.” Crudely worded by today’s standards perhaps, but no less true.

    Also, don’t be cavalier about a break up of America. Given our military and civilian weaponry it would be catastrophic perhaps globally. I can imagine only one peaceful way out of this mess we inherited: reparations + repatriation. In other words, supporting Calypso Louie’s efforts to lead the Africans back to their promised land and away from us white devils. $1,000,000 cash to each who can prove slave ancestry and $500,000 cash to those who cannot would do the job I think along with first class one way airfare to any African airport. Given their current and future costs to America those prices are like buying Manhattan for a handful of beads.

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    Repatriation back to Africa (possibly Liberia) could be the answer if accepted ... but you will not get the a) political will to do so; b) afro americans are too addicted to free living entitlements; c) leftist won't let their manipulated useful idiots go. Therefore thats a pretty dead issue in reality (since Lincoln proposed it), because it is never going to happen.

    Also, don’t be cavalier about a break up of America. Given our military and civilian weaponry it would be catastrophic perhaps globally.
     
    Cavalier is the wrong word. I am simply acknowledging an unpleasant reality that if things continue as they are, without any abatement, that this will be our eventual destination (whenever that will be).

    I am a paleocon who is allergic to utopian fantasies, whether communist, or anarcho capitalist, so I am not looking forward to our national breakup (besides, my personal desires are completely irrelevant in this regard, because either I am right about this, or wrong).

    I merely acknowledge that this is our probable future if this continues, especially when our national priority is to provide perpetual entitlements to our afro citizens, without any accountability (and judging how much afro racial justice stories occupy the majority of MSM time, it will remain our national priority).

    The canaries in the coal mine is when smaller government bodies (states, counties, and municipalities) start to go bankrupt. At first the Federal govt will attempt to bail them out, but in the long term it will be unsustainable. We are not able to emotionally grasp this because of a normalcy bias towards our current prosperity. However, prosperity is not the normal human condition in history, hardship and struggle is.

    If we continue to misallocate our financial resources as we do, in an attempt to appease the unappeasable afros, that is where we will eventually end up. And I see no reversal on the political horizon; in fact, I see an acceleration. Lets hope that I am wrong.

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan d Mute
    It's hilarious to me how I can shred a Christian and he either just shuts down or silently prays for my poor baptized soul, but a Mohammedan feels he has to defend his primitive mythology.

    Funnier how so damn much of Mohammedan teaching is just "how to wipe your ass." http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2149/viewall/personal-hygiene

    I guess Mohammed knew his audience well huh? How nasty and stupid musta people be to need a sky fairy to tell them to wipe their asses?

    But regarding these old mythologies in general, note the things the great givers of wisdom provided and so too what they omitted. Did YHWH or Yeshua or Hammy explain gravity? Provide insight into how DNA conceptually mirrors AI software code?

    http://tia.si/comparing-dna-computer-software

    At least our ancestral mythologies attempted to explain thunder and lightning, the sun and earth and moon. Jews were taught to avoid broads on the rag and Hamsters were taught to wipe their asses.

    Do our myths define us? Is it that Hamsters know that abandoning their mythology would lead directly to 1.6 Billion shitty asses? Or are Jews terrified that if they forget their myths men will bathe in menstrual blood? Yeshuans quake in fear that without their holy myths neighbors' wives will be coveted?

    Maybe big questions like DNA/AI coding & hardware, gravity, time, etc are all just too big for contemplation. Maybe Talha Paper can enlighten us.

    It’s hilarious to me how I can shred a Christian and he either just shuts down or silently prays for my poor baptized soul, but a Mohammedan feels he has to defend his primitive mythology.

    They do this because your juvenile belief that you have “shredded” them, your use of silly terms like “sky fairy”, etc. show that you’re not really interested in serious discussion. Talha is just more patient, is all, possibly due to the degree of Asiatic in his makeup.

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    If they aren't worshippers of an invisible sky fairy then what? I'm being kind here. They're worshipping halucinatory madmen at best and psychopaths at worst. I was born, baptized, and raised in proud WASPy Yeshuanity - descended of Quakers in fact. But I've yet to find the merest scintilla of real evidence that an invisible sky fairy exists in over 50 years of diligent searching. Instead, what I've found is the somewhat depressing but infinitely more interesting universe of Reality where immutable laws appear to exist such as Gravity and Death and Entropy. Further, we are decoding (i.e. physics, biology, mathematics, chemistry) these laws and gradually understanding our sense data. Sky fairies never explained disease to us nor taught us to avoid, harness, and defeat lightning. I stopped needing guidance on toilet habits as a toddler but I recognize some still need a sky fairy to so guide them..
    , @Stan d Mute

    you’re not really interested in serious discussion
     
    A serious discussion of what? An omniscient omnipotent entity that revealed itself to some random Jewish bastard carpenter, a lunatic in a cave, a child molesting psychopath on a mountaintop, a washed up sci-fi writer, a broke writer sponging off his friends, or the many lost to history who began our ancient myths? Do you seriously suggest I give more credence to one myth over another based on its number of current year adherents?

    Or would it be more "serious" to discuss something we know is real like Gravity? Or maybe DNAs role in human intelligence and behavior? Or how Lysenkoism is integral to Cultural Marxism mythology just as YHWH mythology is integral to multiculturalism?
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  • @Stan d Mute

    Yes, a Christian heresy. I read the Koran. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Arab beliefs and some Christianity. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.
     
    Wow, sounds much like:

    Yes, a heresy. I read the New Testament. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Greek/Roman/Germanic/Norse beliefs and some Golden Rule common sense. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.
     

    If you found Germanic/Norse beliefs in the NT (or thought it was jumbled in the sense that the Koran is jumbled) you have been straining your eyes more than a bit. Get some rest.

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  • @Anon
    They give a genealogy-- do the work yourself. Check mine, I did the math in my head, late at night.

    …do the work yourself.

    Here’s some related info I managed to pull from another source:

    The Persian ancestry is the Ptolemy III married a daughter of Antiochos I and his wife Straonice named Apamea II who was 1/4 Persian. Also Ptolemy V married Cleopatra I of Syra, who was the daughter of Laodice III and Antiochos III, now the Persian ancestry of the Seleukid dynasty at this point was very low, as after Antiochos I’s marriage the dynasty was marked for the time with marriages to Greek women, however, Laodice III was the daughter of Laodice II who was the daughter of Antiochos II, and Laodice I, and King Mithridates of Pontus, who would thus have a fair amount of Persian ancestry. Meaning that Cleopatra I would have been roughly 40-50% Persian. At this point no further outside marriages occurred. So there are two sources of Persian blood, one of whom was 1/4 Persian and the other of whom was ~1/2 Persian. Doing some rough math there are 8 Principal people who are responsible for the Ptolemaic column of whom 6 were greek, one was half Greek, and one was a quarter Greek. So… not getting in to the intricacies of how the intermarriages worked, the total percentage of Persian blood would have been low.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cleopatra

    Based on this info, it appears that Cleopatra can trace her Persian ancestry from two sources:

    1) Ptolemy III’s wife, Apamea II who was 1/4 Persian; and
    2) Cleopatra I who was 40-50% Persian

    Are you working with these same assumptions or something else?

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    Yes, you're on the talk page of the article I linked. Cleopatra I is ~50% Persian (the figure I used) and Ptolemy V is ~12.5% Persian. Since all of the ancestry of Cleopatra VII traces to these two she is ~31.25% Persian, or ~(1/3) Persian.

    Always do math yourself when it is simple, and trust anonymous wiki contributors to the extent you trust anonymous Unz contributors.

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  • @attilathehen
    Yes, a Christian heresy. I read the Koran. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Arab beliefs and some Christianity. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.

    Yes, a Christian heresy. I read the Koran. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Arab beliefs and some Christianity. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.

    Wow, sounds much like:

    Yes, a heresy. I read the New Testament. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Greek/Roman/Germanic/Norse beliefs and some Golden Rule common sense. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.

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    If you found Germanic/Norse beliefs in the NT (or thought it was jumbled in the sense that the Koran is jumbled) you have been straining your eyes more than a bit. Get some rest.
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  • @attilathehen
    Hey Talha, remember your Asian, Paki, (avg. IQ in Pakistan 84). Over 99.9% of Muslims are black/Asian, low IQers. Your belief system is a late starter with inferior biological beings.

    It’s hilarious to me how I can shred a Christian and he either just shuts down or silently prays for my poor baptized soul, but a Mohammedan feels he has to defend his primitive mythology.

    Funnier how so damn much of Mohammedan teaching is just “how to wipe your ass.” http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2149/viewall/personal-hygiene

    I guess Mohammed knew his audience well huh? How nasty and stupid musta people be to need a sky fairy to tell them to wipe their asses?

    But regarding these old mythologies in general, note the things the great givers of wisdom provided and so too what they omitted. Did YHWH or Yeshua or Hammy explain gravity? Provide insight into how DNA conceptually mirrors AI software code?

    http://tia.si/comparing-dna-computer-software

    At least our ancestral mythologies attempted to explain thunder and lightning, the sun and earth and moon. Jews were taught to avoid broads on the rag and Hamsters were taught to wipe their asses.

    Do our myths define us? Is it that Hamsters know that abandoning their mythology would lead directly to 1.6 Billion shitty asses? Or are Jews terrified that if they forget their myths men will bathe in menstrual blood? Yeshuans quake in fear that without their holy myths neighbors’ wives will be coveted?

    Maybe big questions like DNA/AI coding & hardware, gravity, time, etc are all just too big for contemplation. Maybe Talha Paper can enlighten us.

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    It’s hilarious to me how I can shred a Christian and he either just shuts down or silently prays for my poor baptized soul, but a Mohammedan feels he has to defend his primitive mythology.
     
    They do this because your juvenile belief that you have "shredded" them, your use of silly terms like "sky fairy", etc. show that you're not really interested in serious discussion. Talha is just more patient, is all, possibly due to the degree of Asiatic in his makeup.
    , @Talha
    Hey Stan,

    Anon - seems to be right. You bring up a lot of straw man arguments and ad hominem; sky fairies, psychotic visions, etc. I mean, you're not really an objective observer in this whole thing are you? What purpose does it serve you to believe in a religion or framework that tells you how to live life? You want to live life as you please, guilt-free and anything that gets in your way, well, you can certainly come up with justifications to pooh-pooh it.

    I don't know the kind of Christians you debated, but we will certainly pray for you, but if you swing, we might land an elbow to the throat. So, to commence...

    I don't really care to convince you of the merits of Islam. I have met plenty of converts from other religions or non-religion. None of them said; I converted because I thought washing my hands, face AND feet before prayer was so cool! They accept the larger picture and answers to the big questions and conform (submit) to what the corollary expects of them. If you don't like the doctrine, it makes zero difference to my life - take it up with your Creator when you see Him. Tell Him you did not like the fact that His book didn't contain insights into DNA or how to build a steam engine or light bulb or how to combat foot fungus, etc. Or that you refuse to follow a 7th century Arab. He might take your objections into consideration...or not - your afterlife, your choice.

    As far as materialism being the bees-knees...You came to a fork in the road and decided that there is nothing beyond the observable senses - a rational route to take. Others took the other rational route; that there are things that exist beyond the observable senses. Having adopted a framework, your conclusions on all religious/spiritual matters are prefunctory. Very rational men like Leibniz, Newton, Farraday and others had no problem believing in a Divine Being. To this day, the majority of scientists do not believe there is a conflict between science and religious belief:
    "When asked about terms of conflict between religion and science, Ecklund noted that only a minority of scientists in each regional context believe that science and religion are in conflict. In the U.K. – one of the most secular countries studied – only 32 percent of scientists characterized the science-faith interface as one of conflict. In the U.S., this number was only 29 percent. And 25 percent of Hong Kong scientists, 27 percent of Indian scientists and 23 percent of Taiwanese scientists believed science and religion can coexist and be used to help each other."
    http://news.rice.edu/2015/12/03/first-worldwide-survey-of-religion-and-science-no-not-all-scientists-are-atheists/

    One of my own previous teachers is a qualified scholar of the Hanafi school, a spiritual guide in the Naqshbandi Order and an accomplished medical doctor; a pathologist specializing in molecular genetic pathology:
    http://pureway.org/shaykh-omar/

    In observing Western and other cultures, it seems the best way to put your populations into free fall is to make them more and more materialist/atheist. Which is funny because, the entire "purpose" of organisms in the Darwinian framework is to adapt to change and selective pressures and propagate their genetic code to the next generation. That's how we know an organism is "fit" in an evolutionary sense when the dust clears - survival of the fittest. So why do atheists tend to be those with maybe one kid or none? There are exceptions of course, but have you met many atheists with big families? I think I have more children than all the atheists at my work place combined. But that is the entire purpose according to the atheist/materialist framework. Furthermore, it is well known that atheists or irreligious people have a significantly higher suicide attempt (and actualization) rate than religious folks:
    http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.12.2303

    So why are materialists failures according to their own framework?

    This anthropologist thinks it has to do with an evolutionary method for getting rid of too much genetic mutational load; atheists/materialists seem to be humanity's way of culling the herd in a time when the same sort of historic selective pressures are no longer present:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKl9H037C1k

    Furthermore, you mention you chose to reject religion at a young age. But you already know that there really is no choosing according to your framework. We are biological machines - our genetics are determinant. You can only describe "choice" in a meta-abstraction of observed behavior - but it's all really just chain reactions at the molecular level. There is no ghost in the machine - we don't have souls that make moral or other choices; the reason you are atheist is because of your genetic makeup, same as why I'm Muslim:
    https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-illusion-of-free-will

    Peace.

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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    You put your finger on a thought that I have had.

    One of the things that I dislike about Christianity and Islam is that adherents are supposed to identify with and imitate a genetically and culturally alien people. I'm of Northern European descent and even as a child had no interest in the tales of middle eastern nomads. I enjoyed stories of European mythology - I read the Iliad at age 9 - and identified more with my European ancestors and kin.

    I see it as a cognitive dissonance for an adherent of the Alt-Right to accept a Jew as his savior. The irony is that secular historians claim that Jesus had no interest in reaching out to gentiles; his message was for the "lost sheep of Israel." It was Paul who created a faith that was palatable to gentiles.

    Here’s an interesting article about Jesus. https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/08/19/the-worlds-debt-to-jesus-christ/

    It’s easy for us to dismiss Christianity in the 21st century. Your Northern European ancestors were Christian for hundreds of years. Islam is not important in the West. We defeated the Muslims over the centuries and the problems we have with them today are now caused by the Roman Catholic Church and Zioevangizers.

    This is why I said to Stan that we cannot get rid of 2000 years of historical Christianity in the West. It is woven into our history. What we can do is update the churches in that we get rid of the “universal church” belief that is destroying us. I was a cradle RCCer but the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. This is the starting point. As for the Jews, they are not God’s chosen. This myth is supported by the Zioevangizers and some RCCers. The state of Israel needs to exist to send people who claim to be Jews to it. Also, I don’t need religion to argue against polygamy, gay marriage, most divorce and abortion. But cucks in the West can’t go there. Christianity works well with natural law and observation. And IQ, which is related to race, is the way to go. This is what we need to work on.

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    Christianity Science works well with natural law and observation. And IQ, which is related to race, is the way to go. This is what we need to work on.
     
    That was an easy fix.

    Still need to work on your severe cognitive dissonance regarding Jews while you pray to YHWH and Yeshua though...
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    You are correct that we cannot wipe out 2000 years of Christian history. There are also practical arguments against polygamy, gay marriage, most divorce and abortion. The official culture of the Soviet Union, after a brief flirtation with "free love" became quite socially conservative. Even in the 1980s, the Commies were tough on gays, lesbians and junkies. It's called survival and, on top of that, flourishing.

    The fawning of many evangelicals on Jews disgusts me. It reminds me of what someone said about Western-Soviet relations in the Brezhnev era: They spit in our face and we call it dew.

    The Roman Church is blasted for its "conservatism," but, in reality, it's only conservative on a few family issues: marriage, life and reproduction. Economically, it's flaming leftist (I called it the Roman Communist Church) and favors open borders to the West as a way to fill the pews. The Protestants and Mormons often favor open borders as a way to convert immigrants. Many have left the Roman Church.
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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Islam is a mishmash of Judaism and Christianity. Mohammed (piss be upon him) first instructed his dupes to face Jerusalem when praying. After the Jews rejected his self-proclaimed prophethood, he instructed them to face Mecca.

    Yes, a Christian heresy. I read the Koran. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Arab beliefs and some Christianity. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.

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    Yes, a Christian heresy. I read the Koran. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Arab beliefs and some Christianity. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.
     
    Wow, sounds much like:

    Yes, a heresy. I read the New Testament. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Greek/Roman/Germanic/Norse beliefs and some Golden Rule common sense. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.
     
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  • @geokat62

    Actually it’s more like 1/3 Persian.
     
    Checked your link, but couldn't find any reference to her purported Persian ancestry (I even searched for the word "Persian," but got zero hits). Perhaps you meant to reference another source?

    Here’s a source for Cleo’s Persianess. https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-racial-and-family-background-of-Cleopatra. The ancient Persians were Aryans.

    Big picture, this clears up the “we wuz kangz” nonsense that was going around for years. I blame cucks for this. Also geneticists confirmed that the ancient Egyptians were Caucasians.

    Cleopatra was Caucasian, European, white.

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  • @joef

    the majority of black births were to women below the one-time average black IQ of 85 and the gangbangers set the moral tone of black culture.
     
    Your comments sums up one of the roots of the problem well. My critical response towards afro american behavior is exactly that: a criticism of their cultural antisocial behavior patterns, not for having dark skin color itself (despite what limo libs & progressives claim).

    Our race relations are actually in the afros hands, not ours. They are the ones who need to reform their antagonism; and if they did not pay attention to radical leftist progressives, that agenda would become mostly disempowered (which is probably the New Left greatest fear).

    If afro americans chose to get along with their host society they would receive reciprocal treatment by the rest of society as well. But thats where I see no hope, because afros refuse to let go of their animosity, and belief in perpetual entitlements. Of course this is not a sustainable situation in the long term.

    The ones I feel sorry for are the few rational honest hard working Black family men, who do not buy into all this radical afro american nonsense. What will he do if things devolve into regional failed state conditions in this country? Afro violence will definitely target Whites, and the Whites who refuse to be willing victims will incorporate a shoot first, ask questions later, method in order to survive violent chaos.

    Under such tumultuous conditions, there is no where for a legit Black family to go to under those circumstances, thus have the most to lose from this bad end result. [my only advice is to stay away from identity politics, and establish your social capital within a community of trusted neighbors, especially a Church - - and you would have my prayers, because you are going to very screwed].

    Great post, Joef. I think that you are right. I am pessimistic about the ability of whites and blacks to live together amicably because of black resentment about slavery and Jim Crow and blaming whites for their problems and shortcomings. Any number of blacks chortle about the looming slide of whites in minority status, but they don’t realize that they will fare worse under Asians and Hispanics, who regard them inferiors.

    We could see a breakup of the US into multiple ethnic-based nations.

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  • @geokat62

    Actually it’s more like 1/3 Persian.
     
    Checked your link, but couldn't find any reference to her purported Persian ancestry (I even searched for the word "Persian," but got zero hits). Perhaps you meant to reference another source?

    They give a genealogy– do the work yourself. Check mine, I did the math in my head, late at night.

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    ...do the work yourself.
     
    Here's some related info I managed to pull from another source:

    The Persian ancestry is the Ptolemy III married a daughter of Antiochos I and his wife Straonice named Apamea II who was 1/4 Persian. Also Ptolemy V married Cleopatra I of Syra, who was the daughter of Laodice III and Antiochos III, now the Persian ancestry of the Seleukid dynasty at this point was very low, as after Antiochos I's marriage the dynasty was marked for the time with marriages to Greek women, however, Laodice III was the daughter of Laodice II who was the daughter of Antiochos II, and Laodice I, and King Mithridates of Pontus, who would thus have a fair amount of Persian ancestry. Meaning that Cleopatra I would have been roughly 40-50% Persian. At this point no further outside marriages occurred. So there are two sources of Persian blood, one of whom was 1/4 Persian and the other of whom was ~1/2 Persian. Doing some rough math there are 8 Principal people who are responsible for the Ptolemaic column of whom 6 were greek, one was half Greek, and one was a quarter Greek. So... not getting in to the intricacies of how the intermarriages worked, the total percentage of Persian blood would have been low.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cleopatra
     
    Based on this info, it appears that Cleopatra can trace her Persian ancestry from two sources:

    1) Ptolemy III's wife, Apamea II who was 1/4 Persian; and
    2) Cleopatra I who was 40-50% Persian

    Are you working with these same assumptions or something else?
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha
    Sure thing. Still, friends don't let friends LARP.

    the eventual fate of the actual Janissaries
     
    Yeah, well - that usually happens when you try to revive some version or other of the Praetorian Guard, eh?

    Elite soldiers that are beholden to no one but themselves (and the emperors they help install) - what could possibly go wrong??!!

    But back to the point; you'd agree that describing Antifa as janissaries is doing a real injustice to the janissaries right?

    Peace.

    While I do not as a matter of fact have any friends who LARP*, neither do I see what you have against the practice.

    I don’t mind political activity (such is part of how our republic is supposed to function) but I do mind gangsterism.

    *I think this is other than you mean– thuggery in dress-up is still thuggery, though, and I prefer to call it that rather than slander what seems to be an innocent form of fun.

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    I just think LARP is silly, that's all. I don't have any moral objections to it.

    The reason I call what these people are doing LARP is because they look like a bunch of fools playing dress up and banging at each other with sticks and shields and other stuff - it's just fisticuffs and hooliganism.

    These people (both sides) have no clue what it means when the stuff gets real. When you go up against the state and it decides to run you over with tanks or give the orders for its soldiers to fire live ammunition into the crowd. If you want to know about the real deal scenarios, I suggest reading details on Tienamen Square or the Rabaa Massacre.

    If you don't like me using LARP, I'm fine calling it cosplay.

    Peace.
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  • @Anon
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra

    Actually it's more like 1/3 Persian. (31.25%, though I could be wrong)

    Actually it’s more like 1/3 Persian.

    Checked your link, but couldn’t find any reference to her purported Persian ancestry (I even searched for the word “Persian,” but got zero hits). Perhaps you meant to reference another source?

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    They give a genealogy-- do the work yourself. Check mine, I did the math in my head, late at night.
    , @attilathehen
    Here's a source for Cleo's Persianess. https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-racial-and-family-background-of-Cleopatra. The ancient Persians were Aryans.

    Big picture, this clears up the "we wuz kangz" nonsense that was going around for years. I blame cucks for this. Also geneticists confirmed that the ancient Egyptians were Caucasians.

    Cleopatra was Caucasian, European, white.

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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    The crime rate shot up in the economically booming 1960s when job opportunities expanded for blacks. Inbetween the spread of an attitude that law abidingness was racist, desegregation and the lifting of certain informal police methods of keeping blacks in line, blacks felt free to, well, be black. Steve Sailer also pointed out that the majority of black births were to women below the one-time average black IQ of 85 and the gangbangers set the moral tone of black culture.

    the majority of black births were to women below the one-time average black IQ of 85 and the gangbangers set the moral tone of black culture.

    Your comments sums up one of the roots of the problem well. My critical response towards afro american behavior is exactly that: a criticism of their cultural antisocial behavior patterns, not for having dark skin color itself (despite what limo libs & progressives claim).

    Our race relations are actually in the afros hands, not ours. They are the ones who need to reform their antagonism; and if they did not pay attention to radical leftist progressives, that agenda would become mostly disempowered (which is probably the New Left greatest fear).

    If afro americans chose to get along with their host society they would receive reciprocal treatment by the rest of society as well. But thats where I see no hope, because afros refuse to let go of their animosity, and belief in perpetual entitlements. Of course this is not a sustainable situation in the long term.

    The ones I feel sorry for are the few rational honest hard working Black family men, who do not buy into all this radical afro american nonsense. What will he do if things devolve into regional failed state conditions in this country? Afro violence will definitely target Whites, and the Whites who refuse to be willing victims will incorporate a shoot first, ask questions later, method in order to survive violent chaos.

    Under such tumultuous conditions, there is no where for a legit Black family to go to under those circumstances, thus have the most to lose from this bad end result. [my only advice is to stay away from identity politics, and establish your social capital within a community of trusted neighbors, especially a Church - - and you would have my prayers, because you are going to very screwed].

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    Great post, Joef. I think that you are right. I am pessimistic about the ability of whites and blacks to live together amicably because of black resentment about slavery and Jim Crow and blaming whites for their problems and shortcomings. Any number of blacks chortle about the looming slide of whites in minority status, but they don't realize that they will fare worse under Asians and Hispanics, who regard them inferiors.

    We could see a breakup of the US into multiple ethnic-based nations.
    , @Stan d Mute

    there is no where for a legit Black family to go to under those circumstances, thus have the most to lose from this bad end result.
     
    You had me right up to this point. And I used to agree in full (minus your churchy bit at the end). I always pitied the Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell types. Then serious thought on the subject overcame me and I remembered that these unicorns are the most privileged in our society. Plus, your legit black family exists in the reality that 30+% of African males are convicted felons and there are mountains of data showing that children of these African unicorns are dumber than children of poor whites. As our great great grandfathers may have said, "there's a nigger in every woodpile." Crudely worded by today's standards perhaps, but no less true.

    Also, don't be cavalier about a break up of America. Given our military and civilian weaponry it would be catastrophic perhaps globally. I can imagine only one peaceful way out of this mess we inherited: reparations + repatriation. In other words, supporting Calypso Louie's efforts to lead the Africans back to their promised land and away from us white devils. $1,000,000 cash to each who can prove slave ancestry and $500,000 cash to those who cannot would do the job I think along with first class one way airfare to any African airport. Given their current and future costs to America those prices are like buying Manhattan for a handful of beads.
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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Fifty years ago, there were gay bars and meeting places in Western cities, but gays and lesbians were usually left alone if they were discreet and kept it to themselves.

    In the late 19th Century or early 20th century, Mrs. Patrick Campbell, a popular actress, remarked (regarding Oscar Wilde?), "I don't care what they do, as long as they don't do it in the street and frighten the horses."

    I mentioned John Bradley in an earlier post. He wrote that the Saudis turned a blind eye to rampant buggery by boys as the price to keep them away from the girls.

    And there is evidence that some of the Ottoman caliphs may have dabbled in sodomy as well. Again – as long as it was not done publicly – resolving the sin was between the servant and the Master.

    My brother worked in Saudi for a year. He didn’t report it being blatant or widespread, but he did mention there were hints and insinuations you could overhear in some conversations between certain co-workers about a side homosexual relationship.

    Peace.

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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    A contemporary of Jesus, Hero of Alexandria invented the steam engine, among other things, but it wasn't put to practical use.

    Heron’s steam engine would have had to have been substantially improved before it could become anything but a toy, but I get your point– this certainly could have been done.

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  • @Talha
    Hey Ris_Eruwaedhiel,

    is acceptable as long as one is not blatant about it
     
    This is somewhat correct - depending on how one defines "acceptable". People know it is a sin - even many of those engaging in it will readily admit to that. But it is tolerated because private sin or vice is between people and their Creator. This will always happen - whether homo or hetero; some people will fall into temptation and commit sins. Human beings are faulty and that is what repentance is for. It is a mercy upon people that God veils their short-comings from others - to cast away that veil is deep ingratitude.

    A gay pride parade is going over the line.
     
    Precisely! Public advertising to vice is not tolerated; this has deleterious effects on society.

    Peace.

    Fifty years ago, there were gay bars and meeting places in Western cities, but gays and lesbians were usually left alone if they were discreet and kept it to themselves.

    In the late 19th Century or early 20th century, Mrs. Patrick Campbell, a popular actress, remarked (regarding Oscar Wilde?), “I don’t care what they do, as long as they don’t do it in the street and frighten the horses.”

    I mentioned John Bradley in an earlier post. He wrote that the Saudis turned a blind eye to rampant buggery by boys as the price to keep them away from the girls.

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    And there is evidence that some of the Ottoman caliphs may have dabbled in sodomy as well. Again - as long as it was not done publicly - resolving the sin was between the servant and the Master.

    My brother worked in Saudi for a year. He didn't report it being blatant or widespread, but he did mention there were hints and insinuations you could overhear in some conversations between certain co-workers about a side homosexual relationship.

    Peace.
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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Islam is the world's fastest growing religion because Moslems, as a whole, have the highest birth rates. It's also dangerous for Moslems to leave Islam: Islam is like the roach motel; you can check in, but you can't check out. Apostates are threatened with death by both their families and governments. Even reformers are accused of apostasy and threatened.

    It's really in your interest that non-Moslems remain in control of their countries. Considering how many Moslems have left and wish to leave their Moslem homelands, you need a non-Moslem society to leech off of. It defeats your purpose if, say, France becomes an Islamic state. Eventually, it would deteriorate into another Moslem dungheap.

    Hey Ris_Eruwaedhiel,

    Islam is the world’s fastest growing religion because Moslems, as a whole, have the highest birth rates.

    Sure – I think Vox said something like; “The future belongs to those that care to show up.”

    It’s really in your interest that non-Moslems remain in control of their countries.

    “It’s really in their interest that non-Moslems remain in control of their countries.” So – why aren’t they having kids in a system they have propped up with a democratic framework? That’s not intelligent.

    Sure – non-Muslims run them fairly well – no arguments there. A nation of a dwindling demographic of non-Muslim technocratic elite and teeming Muslim masses – sounds grand.

    It defeats your purpose if, say, France becomes an Islamic state.

    There is no “purpose” – though I’m sure some Muslims are keen on taking over – dun, dun, dunnnnn – bwaahahahaaa! Most of us are simply living life and having kids, others seem to think that’s not a priority anymore – this is a mathematical equation. In fact, it seems the achilles heel for one side is they have no “purpose”. As far as welfare, why are European nations supporting Muslim slackers? Cut off the welfare payments to Muslims and they’ll probably go back to their countries of origin – what’s stopping Europeans from doing this? Do they have no agency in dealing with the consequences of decades of stupid policies?

    Eventually, it would deteriorate into another Moslem dungheap.

    Possibly. Have you ever been to the Muslim world? Sure, I don’t recommend going to Somalia or Afghanistan, but places like Selangor, Istanbul, Sarajevo and Amman certainly have their charm – Tashkent, Damascus, etc.

    Morocco seems to becoming an increasingly popular place for Europeans to retire:

    http://www.bestplacesretire.com/morocco-the-best-moorish-country-for-retirement/

    Peace.

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  • @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    The attitude in Moslem countries is that homosexual activity, which is pervasive, is acceptable as long as one is not blatant about it. A gay pride parade is going over the line.

    British journalist John Bradley wrote a book about this:

    https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Veil-Vice-Business-Culture-ebook/dp/B0040ZN3KK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505651827&sr=8-1&keywords=john+bradley+books+behind+the+veil+of+vice

    Hey Ris_Eruwaedhiel,

    is acceptable as long as one is not blatant about it

    This is somewhat correct – depending on how one defines “acceptable”. People know it is a sin – even many of those engaging in it will readily admit to that. But it is tolerated because private sin or vice is between people and their Creator. This will always happen – whether homo or hetero; some people will fall into temptation and commit sins. Human beings are faulty and that is what repentance is for. It is a mercy upon people that God veils their short-comings from others – to cast away that veil is deep ingratitude.

    A gay pride parade is going over the line.

    Precisely! Public advertising to vice is not tolerated; this has deleterious effects on society.

    Peace.

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    Fifty years ago, there were gay bars and meeting places in Western cities, but gays and lesbians were usually left alone if they were discreet and kept it to themselves.

    In the late 19th Century or early 20th century, Mrs. Patrick Campbell, a popular actress, remarked (regarding Oscar Wilde?), "I don't care what they do, as long as they don't do it in the street and frighten the horses."

    I mentioned John Bradley in an earlier post. He wrote that the Saudis turned a blind eye to rampant buggery by boys as the price to keep them away from the girls.

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  • @anon

    Actually it should be for homosexual sex – and that which is witnessed by four people – a pretty blatantly public act
     
    Dunno , Hamas executed this guy for accusations of homosexual sex. There was nothing said about 4 witnesses.
    http://www.newsweek.com/prominent-hamas-commander-was-executed-after-accusations-gay-sex-432343

    Iran executes several hundred homosexuals a year. Guess thats a hell of a lot of gay public sex in front of 4 witnesses willing to go to court and testify !!!!!!!!! Oh dear

    Here Iran executes a teenager for homosexuality .

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gqbwd/iran-hangs-teen-for-engaging-in-gay-sex-vgtrn


    I’ve read Tel Aviv is the place to go for that kind of stuff
     
    Correct , Tel Aviv is the place to go for consentual gay sex. Porkistan is the place to go for non-consentual (rape) Homosexual Pederasty , Bacha Bazzi , Bacha Berrisha .In this video they report 94% of Porkistani truckers engage in pederasty with boys .Several Porkistani guys on this video very casually admit to raping boys some as young as 8 years old.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMp2wm0VMUs

    That plenty of Muslim jurisdictions play hard and fast with the rules is well known – that is a major problem in the Muslim world and a valid criticism; the lack of law and order and vigilante violence. If you’re looking for me to explain or defend the actions of Pakistani tuckers – well, that’s just silly. They will pay for their crimes – either in this world or the next.

    Here Iran executes a teenager for homosexuality

    As far as Iran is concerned, the article states that the crime was sodomy (not being a homosexual) – the article states he admitted to it – the only contention is was it forced or consensual; did you even read the article before citing it, or did you just copy and paste it from your cheat-sheet?

    Now about those Orthodox Rabbis that seem to have a penchant for little boys – how do you account for them? A simple search for words like “Rabbi child sex abuse” brings up plenty of hits and videos.

    Furthermore, why do so many of them escape to Israel to escape charges in their home countries?
    “Diaspora pedophiles increasingly use Israel as ‘a haven,’ activists charge. As sex offenders flee their home countries for the Jewish state, grassroots efforts at raising awareness of their presence has led to a slander lawsuit”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/diaspora-pedophiles-increasingly-use-israel-as-a-haven-activists-charge/

    Tel Aviv is the place to go for consentual gay sex

    And now the holy streets of Jerusalem – the place where prophets walked and revelation descended – also have to put up with this nonsense:
    “Israel’s main gay pride parade will reportedly take place this year in Jerusalem, rather than in Tel Aviv where it is traditionally held.”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jerusalem-to-host-israels-main-gay-pride-parade-report/

    So tell us, do you support all these things? Are you proud of them? I mean, this is getting silly and juvenile isn’t it; you posting links to stupid things some Pakistanis do and me posting links to stupid things some Jews do – what exactly is the point of all this?

    Peace.

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    You should totally tell all these people like JihadWatch to back off – they keep saying stuff like we punish people who commit open sodomy with death and silly stuff like that! It is obvious we totally love gays!!!
     
    Actually you might be on to something . The repressed homosexual feelings and the overt acts of homosexuality and pederasty so common in the Muslim world drives the deviants to prove themselves by acts of agression towards their fellow homosexuals by throwing gays off buildings or extecuting them by other means .

    The boy love and homosexual pederasty that masnisfests iteslf so virulently in places like Afghanistan and Porkistan in the form of Bacha Bazzi and Bacha Berisha contrasts well with the exectution by hanging in places like Iran and Gaza for the death penalty crime of homosexuality.

    Witness that 14 Muslim apartheid states have the death penalty for the crime of homosexuality . Included in the aforementioned list are : Afghanistan and Porkistan. Both hotbeds of homosexual pederasty commonly referred to as Bacha Bazzi.

    A very informative video about Bacha Bazzi in Afghanistan.
    BTW the video was originally by RT , around UNZ a very reputable source .Its bad vlad putin the king of alphas approved !!!!!!!! OMG

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2C3JBdv520

    Top comment : Let me get this straight. They have sex with boys but if you are homosexual they kill you

    A common attitude through history is that homosexual activity is acceptable, but not homosexuality as a lifestyle choice. In other words, homosexuality is acceptable as a side dish, but not the main course. If a man marries and has children, most people don’t care what he does on the side, as long as he isn’t blatant about it.

    Another distinction made is between the, ahem, “active” partner and the “passive” partner. The passive partner is typically younger or of a lower social class.

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  • @Talha

    But Islam loves them
     
    I know!!! Can you believe it??!!

    You should totally tell all these people like JihadWatch to back off - they keep saying stuff like we punish people who commit open sodomy with death and silly stuff like that! It is obvious we totally love gays!!!

    Just this year in Istanbul, the police came out in full force to help LGBT marchers cool off with state-sponsored water(cannon) trucks.


    Being Asian, first cousin marriage, low IQs leads to this.
     
    Yes, it is quite a test to be us - we are too stupid to know that we shouldn't be Asian. Have pity upon us - please don't send us back to that continent, then we'll be back at step one.

    You keep avoiding my question about the name and size of your growing church/congregation...don't you think other intelligent White people here are interested in joining?

    Peace.

    The attitude in Moslem countries is that homosexual activity, which is pervasive, is acceptable as long as one is not blatant about it. A gay pride parade is going over the line.

    British journalist John Bradley wrote a book about this:

    https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Veil-Vice-Business-Culture-ebook/dp/B0040ZN3KK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505651827&sr=8-1&keywords=john+bradley+books+behind+the+veil+of+vice

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    Hey Ris_Eruwaedhiel,

    is acceptable as long as one is not blatant about it
     
    This is somewhat correct - depending on how one defines "acceptable". People know it is a sin - even many of those engaging in it will readily admit to that. But it is tolerated because private sin or vice is between people and their Creator. This will always happen - whether homo or hetero; some people will fall into temptation and commit sins. Human beings are faulty and that is what repentance is for. It is a mercy upon people that God veils their short-comings from others - to cast away that veil is deep ingratitude.

    A gay pride parade is going over the line.
     
    Precisely! Public advertising to vice is not tolerated; this has deleterious effects on society.

    Peace.
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  • @anon
    Hey , how dare you debase the noble Porki muslim culture !!!!
    These are people so fantastic that they won't even marry outside the family so as to preserve their superior gene pool. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/591577/British-Pakistanis-13-times-more-disabled-children

    Of course this has resulted in Porkis having 13 x more retarded children . But dont worry allah and mohamed will fix it soon !!!! Mohamad was also quite discerning in choosing his brides , if you get what I mean......

    In many Moslem countries, the majority of marriages are between first or second cousins. It keeps the money within the family and the loyalty. The downside is lower IQs and high rates of miscarriages, stillbirths and disabled babies. It also fosters an extreme nepotistic attachment to family. Moslem cultures are noted for their lack of civil mindedness and concern beyond one’s own tribe.

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    It ain't just Mohamsters:

    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/4611-consanguinity-among-jews

    Remember - Hammy is to Jew as Mormon is to Yeshuanity and Yeshuanity is to Jew. You're all worshippers of YHWH. It's Jewish mythology with Arab or early American or Greco-Roman/Northern European culture and mythologies blended in.

    And maybe a whole lot of people are unable to logically conclude buggering ones brother, impregnating ones sister or mother, and shitting where you sleep are all really stupid ideas without the command of an invisible sky fairy to guide them. Can an IQ of 65-90 get there without their mythology and fears of wrathful sky fairies?
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  • @geokat62

    Yes, the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians gave us a good start but why didn’t they develop science?
     
    Excerpt from the Introduction to The Forgotten Revolution, How Science Was Born in 300 BC and Why It Had to Be Reborn:

    The period from the late fourth to the late second century B.C. witnessed, in Greek-speaking countries, an explosion of objective knowledge about the external world. While Greek culture had reached great heights in art, literature and philosophy already in the earlier classical era, it is in the so-called Hellenistic period that we see for the first time — anywhere in the world — the appearance of science as we understand it now: not an accumulation of facts or philosophically based speculations, but an organized effort to model nature and apply such models, or scientific theories in a sense we will make precise, to the solution of practical problems and to a growing understanding of nature. We owe this new approach to scientists such as Archimedes, Euclid, Eratosthenes and many others less familiar today but no less remarkable.

    Yet, not long after this golden period, much of this extraordinary development had been reversed. Rome borrowed what it was capable of from the Greeks and kept it for a little while yet, but created very little science of its own. Europe was soon smothered in the obscurantism and stasis that blocked most avenues of intellectual development for a thousand years — until, as is well known, the rediscovery of ancient culture in its fullness paved the way to the modern age.

    What were the landmarks in the meteoric rise of science 2300 years ago? Why are they so little known today, even among scientists, classicists and historians? How do they relate to the post-1500 science that we’re familiar with from school? What led to the end of ancient science? These are the questions that this book discusses, in the belief that the answers bear on choices we face today.
     

    A contemporary of Jesus, Hero of Alexandria invented the steam engine, among other things, but it wasn’t put to practical use.

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    Heron's steam engine would have had to have been substantially improved before it could become anything but a toy, but I get your point-- this certainly could have been done.
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  • @Talha
    Hey Stan,

    Thanks for your opinions. Materialism sometimes amuses me, if not for the horrific body counts involved.

    rejected by the majority of Jews then and now.
     
    This is a silly metric. The number of Jews that have converted to either Christianity or Islam over the centuries easily matches the number of Jews that exist today. Christianity and Islam are also rejected by the majority of Buddhists because - surprise - they're Buddhists and if they convert, they are no longer Buddhists - thus, a majority of Buddhists will always reject Christianity and Islam.

    Pew Research says...
     
    ...keep your eye on the graph...
    http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/04/PF_15.04.02_ProjectionsOverview_2050-sidebar_310px.png

    We got a late start - about 6 centuries, we're doing OK.

    it’s clear that the Jews are the real success story here
     
    You should totally promote this at the various Holocaust Museums; "Dude, what're you talkin' about! You guys are totally winners!"

    I hope your sky fairy doesn’t strike me dead for pointing all this out
     
    We don't believe in a sky fairy - that would be disbelief. Now if you are talking about God, then why would He bother with you? I mean, you're chump change compared to men like Dawkins and Harris who are making thousands and thousands promoting the same ideas. He's being fairly tolerant and forbearing with them - why wouldn't He extend the same courtesy to an anonymous internet guy like you that barely has any influence?

    But hey, I take no offence with any of this - when you meet Him, you can tell Him how amusing you thought this all was - joke's on Him right??!! Yuck, yuck! :)

    Peace.

    Islam is the world’s fastest growing religion because Moslems, as a whole, have the highest birth rates. It’s also dangerous for Moslems to leave Islam: Islam is like the roach motel; you can check in, but you can’t check out. Apostates are threatened with death by both their families and governments. Even reformers are accused of apostasy and threatened.

    It’s really in your interest that non-Moslems remain in control of their countries. Considering how many Moslems have left and wish to leave their Moslem homelands, you need a non-Moslem society to leech off of. It defeats your purpose if, say, France becomes an Islamic state. Eventually, it would deteriorate into another Moslem dungheap.

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    Hey Ris_Eruwaedhiel,

    Islam is the world’s fastest growing religion because Moslems, as a whole, have the highest birth rates.
     
    Sure - I think Vox said something like; "The future belongs to those that care to show up."

    It’s really in your interest that non-Moslems remain in control of their countries.
     
    "It’s really in their interest that non-Moslems remain in control of their countries." So - why aren't they having kids in a system they have propped up with a democratic framework? That's not intelligent.

    Sure - non-Muslims run them fairly well - no arguments there. A nation of a dwindling demographic of non-Muslim technocratic elite and teeming Muslim masses - sounds grand.


    It defeats your purpose if, say, France becomes an Islamic state.
     
    There is no "purpose" - though I'm sure some Muslims are keen on taking over - dun, dun, dunnnnn - bwaahahahaaa! Most of us are simply living life and having kids, others seem to think that's not a priority anymore - this is a mathematical equation. In fact, it seems the achilles heel for one side is they have no "purpose". As far as welfare, why are European nations supporting Muslim slackers? Cut off the welfare payments to Muslims and they'll probably go back to their countries of origin - what's stopping Europeans from doing this? Do they have no agency in dealing with the consequences of decades of stupid policies?

    Eventually, it would deteriorate into another Moslem dungheap.
     
    Possibly. Have you ever been to the Muslim world? Sure, I don't recommend going to Somalia or Afghanistan, but places like Selangor, Istanbul, Sarajevo and Amman certainly have their charm - Tashkent, Damascus, etc.

    Morocco seems to becoming an increasingly popular place for Europeans to retire:
    http://www.bestplacesretire.com/morocco-the-best-moorish-country-for-retirement/

    Peace.

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  • @Realist
    "Metaphorically speaking, free African-American politicians and activists are boiling the bones of their enslaved ancestors to make soup. The suffering of slaves is being exploited posthumously to shape discourse in politically advantageous ways."

    Descendants of slaves in America are the luckiest blacks on the planet.

    After his “Rumble in the Jungle” bout in 1974, Mohammed Ali responded to a reporter’s question about what he thought of Africa by saying, “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat.”

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  • @attilathehen
    Hey Talha, bro, it's been a while. Her Zionist bias is the flipside of your Muslim bias.

    Let's recall our religion lesson, Islam is a Christian heresy.

    Islam is a mishmash of Judaism and Christianity. Mohammed (piss be upon him) first instructed his dupes to face Jerusalem when praying. After the Jews rejected his self-proclaimed prophethood, he instructed them to face Mecca.

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    Yes, a Christian heresy. I read the Koran. A farrago of Old Testament Judaism, pagan Arab beliefs and some Christianity. Nothing but jumbled nonsense.
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