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    From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • […] a slight damper on Zuckerberg’s imperial ambition is a small victory. The downside is that it feeds into the myth that somehow Vladimir Putin put […]

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  • From the New York Times: Okay ... "cried among the farmland." ... Possible alternatives: "cried among the crops." "sobbed among the succotash." "blubbered all over the beets." "sniveled about the terrain." "eyeless in Gaza." It is, of course, unfair to judge an entire county with a population of almost 200,000 on the behavior of one...
  • Icch freue mch vvon Ihnen zu hören!

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • I guess it’s better than naming them Nero and Caligula, respectively.

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  • From the New York Times: Okay ... "cried among the farmland." ... Possible alternatives: "cried among the crops." "sobbed among the succotash." "blubbered all over the beets." "sniveled about the terrain." "eyeless in Gaza." It is, of course, unfair to judge an entire county with a population of almost 200,000 on the behavior of one...
  • @Michael Soeren
    Am I the only one to get this or is the allusion to Keats' Ode (the Biblical Ruth, standing "in tears amid the alien corn") just too obvious for anyone to remark upon?

    I have just quoted Keat’s lines on Ruth but this the source and it is beautiful too.

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  • @Grumpy
    "among the farmland"

    Let's just call it bad writing.

    It has been put better:

    Through the sad heart of Ruth, when, sick for home,
    She stood in tears amid the alien corn.

    Keats Ode to a nightingale.

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @guest
    This may or may not be on topic, but I was recently watching the show Boardwalk Empire (or, as my dad always referred to it, Broadway Empire), which takes place on the 20s. There are scattered references to certain characters' experiences in the Philippines war. (Or the "benevolent assimilation.") One guy called them "Filthy-pinos."

    That brings up a few questions:

    1). Were Filipinos allowed to come over back then, since we owned them?

    2). If not, when did they start coming over? With the rest of the world?

    3). Howcome we don't call them filthy-pinos anymore? Among those allowed to distinguish between different Asian peoples (basically, other Asians), and even coin slurs against them, what are Filipinos commonly called?

    An exemption was carved into the Asian Ezxclusion Zone for Phillipinos in the 1940 Immigration Law.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @snorlax

    A good Bayesian uses priors but updates them when counter evidence is found. I think the prior on right hate hoaxes just increased, but is still far lower than for a leftist hate hoax.
     
    Agreed; in the future I'm not going to be so credulous (as I foolishly was with this guy) about cases where rightists claim to have been violently attacked by unknown assailants, but anatomy and common sense indicate their wounds were self-inflicted. (In my partial defense I think it was more his status as active-duty military than the political angle that caused me to abandon Occam's Razor).

    The right is actually talking about the hoax rather than simply memory holing it.
     
    Is it? Steve hasn't posted about the hoax revelation and we're the only ones I've seen talking about it in the comments (that I've read).

    Come to think of it, I can think of more than two right-wing hate hoaxes. Leftists would say (correctly, IMO, given what we consider to be left-wing hate hoaxes) that we ought to count that fairly common type of case where a white woman either blames a crime she committed and/or (like "B" woman) falsely claims to have been attacked by "a black man."

    That variety of hate hoax makes the national news at least a few times a year, which isn't nothing, even accounting for the obvious observation that such stories are promoted as loudly as possible, while stories about the more-common reverse variety where a member of the Coalition of the Ascendant falsely accuses "a white man" are quashed ASAP after the hoax is revealed.

    Thanks for the thoughtful response. I thought I had heard about this case as a hate hoax in multiple places, but it is not exactly being shouted from the rooftops. What I don’t hear is it being defended (unlike the leftist examples).

    Regarding

    we ought to count that fairly common type of case where a white woman either blames a crime she committed and/or (like “B” woman) falsely claims to have been attacked by “a black man.”

    That’s a good point. It’s worth noting that part of the Bayesian assessment is how often the “true positive” occurs compared to the “false positive” though–and it would take a large number of hoaxes to offset the reality.

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  • From the New York Times: Okay ... "cried among the farmland." ... Possible alternatives: "cried among the crops." "sobbed among the succotash." "blubbered all over the beets." "sniveled about the terrain." "eyeless in Gaza." It is, of course, unfair to judge an entire county with a population of almost 200,000 on the behavior of one...
  • @MEH 0910
    Remembering My Mother’s Obsession
    By Saïd Sayrafiezadeh January 29, 2014 9:30 pm

    Of all the troubling events from my childhood, one of the most enduring remains the afternoon I visited a prisoner serving a life sentence for murder. It was 1978 and I was 9 years old, escorted to Western Penitentiary in Pittsburgh by my mother, who, compelled by a lifelong objective of raising her son’s awareness of injustice in the world, no doubt considered this to be a well-suited occasion.

    The injustice, in this particular instance, was the framing of a 21-year-old black man named Stanton Story for the killing of a white Pittsburgh police officer. At the time of our visit, three years had passed since Mr. Story’s trial, in which, despite having apparently been in North Carolina on the day of the shooting, he was found guilty by an all-white jury and sentenced to die in the electric chair. Almost three years later, however, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court granted Mr. Story a new trial (on the grounds that prejudicial evidence had been introduced at the first one) and, having recently declared the death penalty unconstitutional, set aside his death sentence. It was during the run-up to this second trial that the Socialist Workers Party, of which my mother was a dedicated member, began advocating on Mr. Story’s behalf.
     

    At the new trial, Mr. Story was again found guilty by an all-white jury, and since the death penalty had been reinstated, sentenced a second time to the electric chair — a sentence that on appeal would once more be reduced to life in prison. My mother, mercifully, spared me the details, informing me only that he had “lost.” What are we going to do now, I remember asking, because surely, given Mr. Story’s innocence, and given my mother’s unflagging determination, there was always something more to be done. But no, my mother said, this was it, there was nothing else we could do. So after that, we never mentioned his name again.

    But I never forgot him. Over the years, that final image of Mr. Story, looking back at us, would pop into my head at the most inopportune moments. Here I am playing basketball, I would think, and Stanton Story is still in prison. Here I am sitting on my new couch from Crate and Barrel, and Stanton Story is still in prison. Thus my mother’s goal to raise my awareness of injustice in the world had been achieved. Achieved so effectively, in fact, that 30 years after that visit it occurred to me that I could contact Mr. Story, perhaps hear his account of the injustice done to him and, as with other wrongful convictions, help free him. If this sounds like a childish thought, that’s because it is.
     

    In the meantime, I began to research his case. One of the first websites that I came across, though, was a memorial for slain police officers, which had dedicated a page to Patrick Wallace, the officer who had allegedly been killed by Mr. Story. Up to this point, I had never given much thought to Mr. Wallace. In fact, I had never given any thought to him. It occurred to me as I read that not only did I know very little about Mr. Wallace, but I also knew very little about any of the details of the case.

    I soon discovered some troubling things. I learned, for instance, that at his second trial, Mr. Story admitted he had lied about his alibi of being in North Carolina. He had been in Pittsburgh, at the scene of the shooting, but he insisted that it was his companion, a man named Richard Davis, who had fired the fatal shot. Moreover, I found that he had a long history with crime, beginning as a teenager. When he was 21, he was convicted on multiple counts of armed robbery and sent to Western Penitentiary. In prison, his behavior was so exemplary that he was granted a three-day furlough, but during those three days he robbed two banks and fled to North Carolina. A month later he returned to Pittsburgh, where he may or may not have shot and killed Patrick Wallace.
     

    Lots of people adopted pet prisoners for exoneration in the 1960s/1970s: WF Buckley, Norman Mailer, and William Styron each had their own, and each prisoner committed a similar crime soon after getting released.

    It’s a less common hobby now.

    A young lawyer I know recently got an apparently innocent man out of prison on a dubious murder conviction. Hopefully he won’t now kill somebody! But, anyway, the unjustly convicted man in this case was extremely colorless, while the Buckley/Mailer/Stryon type prisoners tended to be brilliant sociopaths. So maybe that’s a lesson: there are still unjustly convicted prisoners out there for crusaders to help, but they tend to be kind of boring individuals.

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  • Remembering My Mother’s Obsession
    By Saïd Sayrafiezadeh January 29, 2014 9:30 pm

    Of all the troubling events from my childhood, one of the most enduring remains the afternoon I visited a prisoner serving a life sentence for murder. It was 1978 and I was 9 years old, escorted to Western Penitentiary in Pittsburgh by my mother, who, compelled by a lifelong objective of raising her son’s awareness of injustice in the world, no doubt considered this to be a well-suited occasion.

    The injustice, in this particular instance, was the framing of a 21-year-old black man named Stanton Story for the killing of a white Pittsburgh police officer. At the time of our visit, three years had passed since Mr. Story’s trial, in which, despite having apparently been in North Carolina on the day of the shooting, he was found guilty by an all-white jury and sentenced to die in the electric chair. Almost three years later, however, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court granted Mr. Story a new trial (on the grounds that prejudicial evidence had been introduced at the first one) and, having recently declared the death penalty unconstitutional, set aside his death sentence. It was during the run-up to this second trial that the Socialist Workers Party, of which my mother was a dedicated member, began advocating on Mr. Story’s behalf.

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    At the new trial, Mr. Story was again found guilty by an all-white jury, and since the death penalty had been reinstated, sentenced a second time to the electric chair — a sentence that on appeal would once more be reduced to life in prison. My mother, mercifully, spared me the details, informing me only that he had “lost.” What are we going to do now, I remember asking, because surely, given Mr. Story’s innocence, and given my mother’s unflagging determination, there was always something more to be done. But no, my mother said, this was it, there was nothing else we could do. So after that, we never mentioned his name again.

    But I never forgot him. Over the years, that final image of Mr. Story, looking back at us, would pop into my head at the most inopportune moments. Here I am playing basketball, I would think, and Stanton Story is still in prison. Here I am sitting on my new couch from Crate and Barrel, and Stanton Story is still in prison. Thus my mother’s goal to raise my awareness of injustice in the world had been achieved. Achieved so effectively, in fact, that 30 years after that visit it occurred to me that I could contact Mr. Story, perhaps hear his account of the injustice done to him and, as with other wrongful convictions, help free him. If this sounds like a childish thought, that’s because it is.

    In the meantime, I began to research his case. One of the first websites that I came across, though, was a memorial for slain police officers, which had dedicated a page to Patrick Wallace, the officer who had allegedly been killed by Mr. Story. Up to this point, I had never given much thought to Mr. Wallace. In fact, I had never given any thought to him. It occurred to me as I read that not only did I know very little about Mr. Wallace, but I also knew very little about any of the details of the case.

    I soon discovered some troubling things. I learned, for instance, that at his second trial, Mr. Story admitted he had lied about his alibi of being in North Carolina. He had been in Pittsburgh, at the scene of the shooting, but he insisted that it was his companion, a man named Richard Davis, who had fired the fatal shot. Moreover, I found that he had a long history with crime, beginning as a teenager. When he was 21, he was convicted on multiple counts of armed robbery and sent to Western Penitentiary. In prison, his behavior was so exemplary that he was granted a three-day furlough, but during those three days he robbed two banks and fled to North Carolina. A month later he returned to Pittsburgh, where he may or may not have shot and killed Patrick Wallace.

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    Lots of people adopted pet prisoners for exoneration in the 1960s/1970s: WF Buckley, Norman Mailer, and William Styron each had their own, and each prisoner committed a similar crime soon after getting released.

    It's a less common hobby now.

    A young lawyer I know recently got an apparently innocent man out of prison on a dubious murder conviction. Hopefully he won't now kill somebody! But, anyway, the unjustly convicted man in this case was extremely colorless, while the Buckley/Mailer/Stryon type prisoners tended to be brilliant sociopaths. So maybe that's a lesson: there are still unjustly convicted prisoners out there for crusaders to help, but they tend to be kind of boring individuals.

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @Erik L
    Does one "co-found" a podcast? That seems a bit high falutin'.

    He found some sucker suffering from white guilt — I mean, some enlightened white person or corporation — to finance him.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @Mr. Anon
    I remember thinking Mel Brooks was funny. When I was about ten years old. Then I grew up. With the possible exception of The Producers and The Twelve Chairs (his first two), his movies are excruciatingly unfunny and bad.

    Makes me laugh every time.

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  • @jsr
    Remember, Augustus also had a daughter named Julia who was a notorious slut and party girl who was exiled by her father along with her pal Ovid (the poet). Being the classicist he is, Markus Zuckus must know this.

    The Julia who was exiled along with Ovid (though not to the same place) was not Augustus’ daughter, but granddaughter. She’s called Julia Minor (the Younger) to differentiate her from her mother Julia, i.e. Augustus’ daughter.
    Augustus wound up disavowing and exiling both women to small desolate islands, though the daughter was eventually allowed to return. The granddaughter died in exile.

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @Cortes
    "As the spirit of Lord Sandwich I object to the cultural misappropriation of my name."

    That's the first message our Beyond The Restraining Limits of Portland Honkiness Group got through the brand-new SPLC-approved PC Ouija Board we just invested in.

    “As the spirit of Lord Sandwich I object to the cultural misappropriation of my name.”

    That’s the first message our Beyond The Restraining Limits of Portland Honkiness Group got through the brand-new SPLC-approved PC Ouija Board we just invested in.

    You might be getting more such messages. If you go back one or two generations from the boomers, they would scarcely believe how bad things have become.

    Any earlier and they won’t even communicate via Ouija boards. That’s how bad we’ve become.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @res
    Not sure about that. It was absurd and hysterical, but compare the response to graffiti on LeBron's house and then think about the severity of what happened. You do you remember all those widely disseminated news stories about that graffiti, right?

    The differences I see:
    - It looks like the hoaxer is actually going to be punished for the hoax.
    - The right seems to be OK with that punishment. (though I for one complain about the differing responses to left/right hoaxes, I think the punishment is proper).
    - The right is actually talking about the hoax rather than simply memory holing it.

    P.S. A good Bayesian uses priors but updates them when counter evidence is found. I think the prior on right hate hoaxes just increased, but is still far lower than for a leftist hate hoax.

    A good Bayesian uses priors but updates them when counter evidence is found. I think the prior on right hate hoaxes just increased, but is still far lower than for a leftist hate hoax.

    Agreed; in the future I’m not going to be so credulous (as I foolishly was with this guy) about cases where rightists claim to have been violently attacked by unknown assailants, but anatomy and common sense indicate their wounds were self-inflicted. (In my partial defense I think it was more his status as active-duty military than the political angle that caused me to abandon Occam’s Razor).

    The right is actually talking about the hoax rather than simply memory holing it.

    Is it? Steve hasn’t posted about the hoax revelation and we’re the only ones I’ve seen talking about it in the comments (that I’ve read).

    Come to think of it, I can think of more than two right-wing hate hoaxes. Leftists would say (correctly, IMO, given what we consider to be left-wing hate hoaxes) that we ought to count that fairly common type of case where a white woman either blames a crime she committed and/or (like “B” woman) falsely claims to have been attacked by “a black man.”

    That variety of hate hoax makes the national news at least a few times a year, which isn’t nothing, even accounting for the obvious observation that such stories are promoted as loudly as possible, while stories about the more-common reverse variety where a member of the Coalition of the Ascendant falsely accuses “a white man” are quashed ASAP after the hoax is revealed.

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    Thanks for the thoughtful response. I thought I had heard about this case as a hate hoax in multiple places, but it is not exactly being shouted from the rooftops. What I don't hear is it being defended (unlike the leftist examples).

    Regarding

    we ought to count that fairly common type of case where a white woman either blames a crime she committed and/or (like “B” woman) falsely claims to have been attacked by “a black man.”
     
    That's a good point. It's worth noting that part of the Bayesian assessment is how often the "true positive" occurs compared to the "false positive" though--and it would take a large number of hoaxes to offset the reality.
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  • @Anon
    In times of instability, countries typically vote for strongmen, not aspy geeks who come across as overly precious and weak when strength is needed to handle a crisis. Name one genuine aspy geek who's ever been elected US president.

    Calvin Coolidge and both John Adamses come to mind, although (IMO) they’d never be elected today, and of course they were all one-termers (voluntarily in Coolidge’s case).

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  • @Anon
    Julius Caesar was one of history's great soldiers. That requires intelligence but is not necessarily the test of an intelligent man.

    As Steve indicated, Caesar wrote books people still read (if he actually wrote them) . Very few people write anything that is still read thousands of years later, let alone two whole books. And we don’t still read them merely because he’s Caesar.

    He wasn’t just a great soldier but a great conqueror. That’s uncommon even among great soldiers. He ate up present-day France, Switzerland, Belgium, and Northern Italy. He gave Rome a foothold in Britain and helped consolidate Roman power over Egypt. That all takes a bit of intelligence.

    More than that, he was a brilliant politician, though he got himself killed.

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  • @Anonymous
    It's not surprising that Zuckerberg would be inspired by Octavian. I think the reason for this is not only the kind of similar facial features - except for Zuckerberg's semitic nose, different from Octavian's straight nose -, but also because they are quite similar in personal style, both being pupeteers working behind the curtains to gain power, not very "showy" in terms of personal style.

    But Zuckerberg's ambition of being a de facto emperor will never happen. Zuckerberg is an intelligent and capable man, but he is no Octavian. He is not on his level. Very few people in World history are. Octavian was a philosopher as insightful as Plato, a pupeteer of people more skillfull than Machiaveli, a strategist as capable as Charlamagne and Alexander, and an administrator as capable as Charlemagne. In an extremely ruthless selection process for World Kingship, he defeated all rivals and came out on top., becoming the ruler of the then known World. There is a huge difference between being the head of a social network, and being the head of a true World Empire(political, military and cultural)

    The inhuman cleverness and cunning of Octavian: even as a small boy, he made everyone around him feel dim-witted:https://youtu.be/HWdtPy4fQ6U

    "It would look strange if he made no effort to retrieve his stolen eagle. In fact, losing his eagle is useful to Caesar. Pompey is no deep philosopher. He would take the loss for a real weakness. Caesar doesen't want to strike the first blow against an old friend. So he wants to lure Pompey into attacking him first. Pompey will only do this if he believes that Caesar is weak. When Julia died, the last bond between them was lost. Caesar has taken the love of the people from Pompey, his most prized possesion. The battle between them is inevitable."

    Let’s not overlook the fact that Augustus had a HUGE head start by being Caesar’s legal heir and inheritor of his name and fortune. If he was just as smart without those things, he probably wouldn’t have won.

    Imagine if Zuck was born a Kennedy. Another sort of usually unpresidential ethnicity, but with a giant leg-up in public perception, political capital, and social cachet. Even the duds in that family get fawning media attention.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Based on their biographies and writing, Julius C was smarter than his grandnephew. Augustus's good luck was to be JC's closest male relative and heir.

    JC repeatedly won battles when outnumbered. Augustus won when it counted, but never so impressively.

    +Lot

    Very few people in the history of the World were smarter than Julius Caesar in terms of raw intelligence. If we are talking IQ, his IQ was estimated by Anthony Buzan at 178. And that is an adult score, which makes it even freakier. This would put him above the likes of Mozart(IQ 165), Kepler(IQ 170) and Kant(IQ 175), and less than 1SD below the likes of Gallilleo and Newton. According to Plutarch, he was writing poems in both Latin and Greek before turning 5 years old, and by the age of 16 he was considered Rome’s greatest juridical scholar. When in Alexandria, he in his spare time created an entire new calendar based on deductions on astronomy that he made himself. All of this besides his genius as a military strategist, prose stylist and his political savy.

    So, yes, in tems of overall intelligence in the way we use the word, he was even smarter than Octavian. But Octavian proved to be an even more shrewed judge of character with even more refined political instincts than his great-uncle. Not that Julius Caesar wasn’t great at understanding and manipulating people: Caesar had extraordinary tact and people skills. Many of his victories in Gaul came by due to his skills as a negotiator. But Octavian was even better at this than his great-uncle. Julius Caesar misread his closest friends and allies once, either due to hubris or because he overestimated human gratitude(humans are usually not very grateful), and that cost him his life. Octavian would never make the same mistake, having a cynical attitude of always assuming the worse from people, and as a result he died of old age at age 76 the unquestioned ruler of the World. Sulla was also like that, and died of heavy drinking having sex with transvestites rather than dying from the blades of his enemies.

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  • @guest
    I've never understood that ploy. The mother's name is merely her father's name. Patriarchy still wins!

    Of course, after a few generations that'll get confused. But they won't be able to escape the patriarchal origins. Unless they make up their own names. As people do, for instance with anagrams. It's all very foolish.

    I'd like to see feminists and SJWs generally adopt Puritan-like names. Goody Raceblind and Blankslate Unprivileged, for instance. Or like blacks abandoning their slave names. "I'm Trigglypuff X, y'all!"

    I wish I hadn’t already used up my lol. So lol.

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  • @Anon
    Julius Caesar was one of history's great soldiers. That requires intelligence but is not necessarily the test of an intelligent man.

    Julius Caesar was extraordinarily effective at whatever he did, including writing.

    I’ve read a couple of Robert Harris’s historical novels about Cicero. In the first volume, Cicero outsmarts everybody in Rome. In the second one, Julius Caesar comes on the scene and relentlessly outsmarts Cicero.

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  • @Lot
    Based on their biographies and writing, Julius C was smarter than his grandnephew. Augustus's good luck was to be JC's closest male relative and heir.

    JC repeatedly won battles when outnumbered. Augustus won when it counted, but never so impressively.

    Julius Caesar was one of history’s great soldiers. That requires intelligence but is not necessarily the test of an intelligent man.

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    Julius Caesar was extraordinarily effective at whatever he did, including writing.

    I've read a couple of Robert Harris's historical novels about Cicero. In the first volume, Cicero outsmarts everybody in Rome. In the second one, Julius Caesar comes on the scene and relentlessly outsmarts Cicero.

    , @guest
    As Steve indicated, Caesar wrote books people still read (if he actually wrote them) . Very few people write anything that is still read thousands of years later, let alone two whole books. And we don't still read them merely because he's Caesar.

    He wasn't just a great soldier but a great conqueror. That's uncommon even among great soldiers. He ate up present-day France, Switzerland, Belgium, and Northern Italy. He gave Rome a foothold in Britain and helped consolidate Roman power over Egypt. That all takes a bit of intelligence.

    More than that, he was a brilliant politician, though he got himself killed.
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  • @Anonymous
    It's not surprising that Zuckerberg would be inspired by Octavian. I think the reason for this is not only the kind of similar facial features - except for Zuckerberg's semitic nose, different from Octavian's straight nose -, but also because they are quite similar in personal style, both being pupeteers working behind the curtains to gain power, not very "showy" in terms of personal style.

    But Zuckerberg's ambition of being a de facto emperor will never happen. Zuckerberg is an intelligent and capable man, but he is no Octavian. He is not on his level. Very few people in World history are. Octavian was a philosopher as insightful as Plato, a pupeteer of people more skillfull than Machiaveli, a strategist as capable as Charlamagne and Alexander, and an administrator as capable as Charlemagne. In an extremely ruthless selection process for World Kingship, he defeated all rivals and came out on top., becoming the ruler of the then known World. There is a huge difference between being the head of a social network, and being the head of a true World Empire(political, military and cultural)

    The inhuman cleverness and cunning of Octavian: even as a small boy, he made everyone around him feel dim-witted:https://youtu.be/HWdtPy4fQ6U

    "It would look strange if he made no effort to retrieve his stolen eagle. In fact, losing his eagle is useful to Caesar. Pompey is no deep philosopher. He would take the loss for a real weakness. Caesar doesen't want to strike the first blow against an old friend. So he wants to lure Pompey into attacking him first. Pompey will only do this if he believes that Caesar is weak. When Julia died, the last bond between them was lost. Caesar has taken the love of the people from Pompey, his most prized possesion. The battle between them is inevitable."

    Based on their biographies and writing, Julius C was smarter than his grandnephew. Augustus’s good luck was to be JC’s closest male relative and heir.

    JC repeatedly won battles when outnumbered. Augustus won when it counted, but never so impressively.

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    Julius Caesar was one of history's great soldiers. That requires intelligence but is not necessarily the test of an intelligent man.
    , @Anonymous
    +Lot

    Very few people in the history of the World were smarter than Julius Caesar in terms of raw intelligence. If we are talking IQ, his IQ was estimated by Anthony Buzan at 178. And that is an adult score, which makes it even freakier. This would put him above the likes of Mozart(IQ 165), Kepler(IQ 170) and Kant(IQ 175), and less than 1SD below the likes of Gallilleo and Newton. According to Plutarch, he was writing poems in both Latin and Greek before turning 5 years old, and by the age of 16 he was considered Rome's greatest juridical scholar. When in Alexandria, he in his spare time created an entire new calendar based on deductions on astronomy that he made himself. All of this besides his genius as a military strategist, prose stylist and his political savy.

    So, yes, in tems of overall intelligence in the way we use the word, he was even smarter than Octavian. But Octavian proved to be an even more shrewed judge of character with even more refined political instincts than his great-uncle. Not that Julius Caesar wasn't great at understanding and manipulating people: Caesar had extraordinary tact and people skills. Many of his victories in Gaul came by due to his skills as a negotiator. But Octavian was even better at this than his great-uncle. Julius Caesar misread his closest friends and allies once, either due to hubris or because he overestimated human gratitude(humans are usually not very grateful), and that cost him his life. Octavian would never make the same mistake, having a cynical attitude of always assuming the worse from people, and as a result he died of old age at age 76 the unquestioned ruler of the World. Sulla was also like that, and died of heavy drinking having sex with transvestites rather than dying from the blades of his enemies.

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  • @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Ok, uh, after carefully considering your main points regarding Zuck, I have to honestly say that I cannot continue to smoke this pipe dream any longer.

    For one thing, Zuckerberg's being Jewish may not go over so well with black voters. Something to consider though it may not be PC to state it. Many blacks harbor anti-semitic views and may not agree to vote for him in the same vein that they did for Obama, and especially if he chooses a white (or a real light skinned black) to run with him. To black voters, he's just another whitey.

    Another thing to consider, is that Zuckerberg is very much pro-open borders and all of his pubic statements as well as the organizations he's funded bear this out. Also, I wouldn't put him in the same category as Trump, who, because of his traditional brick and mortar businesses, can plausibly claim to have directly created hundreds of thousands (if not more) jobs during his forty plus career.

    How many US workers does Facebook employ? 50? 100? Perhaps 1,000 at most. So, over a little more than a decade Zuck could lay claim to create about 1,000 US based jobs (at most) and about 50-100 at worst. Doesn't sound like a businessman who's looking out for the little guy. In fact, it sounds like someone along the lines of Mitt Romney.

    Professionally speaking, and allowing for the quirkiness of both candidates, I see little difference between Zuckerberg and Mitt Romney. Both worked in fields that produce intangible things, have engaged in outsourcing, and don't particularly give a damn about helping the middle classes.

    I fully get WHY the lower middle class white family in OH, MI, WI, PA, IN, IA voted for Trump. I can never imagine them ever getting enthusiastically exited to go and vote for Zuckerberg. Why would they? Cause he likes Augustus Ceasar? I can't imagine for the second coming before dawn, that Mark Zuckerberg would ever take such a tangible position as "Let's build a wall on the Southern Border, yeah! Let's do it!" That's not in his profile. That might make many of his pals in Silicon Valley upset and they wouldn't campaign for him. I mean, where is a potential Zuck base for voting for him? Sanders and even Hillary you can see it. Obama's base was obvious. There's nothing for Zuck.


    Did millions of desperate and disillusioned, out of work white families desperate to stay afloat put their trust in the likes of outsourcer Mitt Romney? That's right, they didn't. Same thing with Zuck. He doesn't register much less relate to ordinary Americans, especially compared with "The People's Billionaire".

    In some ways, publicly identifying with Augustus and not with Joe and Jane Blow in Ash Cosh WI, Bakersfield,CA Zionsville,IN Butler, PA (the Brexit states) only makes Trump's case even more. "That guy with the weird cockamamie haircut who wouldn't know a hammer from nail's gonna build the wall and clamp down on immigration? Nah, that's so lame!"

    I mean, the top 1% simply doesn't have that many votes at the actual ballot box. Too much of a pipe dream and I wouldn't want to wake up from having taken that bad trip.

    There is no real world evidence blacks don’t like Jews when it is voting time. There is a Cohen in a majority black district in TN, he keeps getting primaried by blacks and keeps winning.

    Another point is that black voters tend to be practical and want winners. Zuck is the biggest winner in business history, a self made decabillionaire at age 25.

    In 00, 04, and 16, blacks went with the moderate establishment Dem who seemed likelier to win, not the more liberal one who promised more goodies. Even in 2008, they stuck with Hillary in polls until Obama started winning Iowa.

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  • @Marat Said
    I did the opposite, trying to dissuade someone from naming their daughter Rachel.

    Me: Do you know Rachel means "ewe"? Are you going to name your daughter "sheep"? "Female sheep", how can you do that to her?!

    The mother wasn't fazed by this information. She chose the name for its sound, had no idea that it meant anything, and figured (accurately, it appears) that no one else would either know or care.

    I did the opposite, trying to dissuade someone from naming their daughter Rachel.

    Me: Do you know Rachel means “ewe”? Are you going to name your daughter “sheep”? “Female sheep”, how can you do that to her?!

    The mother wasn’t fazed by this information. She chose the name for its sound, had no idea that it meant anything, and figured (accurately, it appears) that no one else would either know or care.

    Nothing wrong with a woman having sheep-like qualities…..provided, of course, that she has a good shepherd……

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It’s not surprising that Zuckerberg would be inspired by Octavian. I think the reason for this is not only the kind of similar facial features – except for Zuckerberg’s semitic nose, different from Octavian’s straight nose -, but also because they are quite similar in personal style, both being pupeteers working behind the curtains to gain power, not very “showy” in terms of personal style.

    But Zuckerberg’s ambition of being a de facto emperor will never happen. Zuckerberg is an intelligent and capable man, but he is no Octavian. He is not on his level. Very few people in World history are. Octavian was a philosopher as insightful as Plato, a pupeteer of people more skillfull than Machiaveli, a strategist as capable as Charlamagne and Alexander, and an administrator as capable as Charlemagne. In an extremely ruthless selection process for World Kingship, he defeated all rivals and came out on top., becoming the ruler of the then known World. There is a huge difference between being the head of a social network, and being the head of a true World Empire(political, military and cultural)

    The inhuman cleverness and cunning of Octavian: even as a small boy, he made everyone around him feel dim-witted:https://youtu.be/HWdtPy4fQ6U

    “It would look strange if he made no effort to retrieve his stolen eagle. In fact, losing his eagle is useful to Caesar. Pompey is no deep philosopher. He would take the loss for a real weakness. Caesar doesen’t want to strike the first blow against an old friend. So he wants to lure Pompey into attacking him first. Pompey will only do this if he believes that Caesar is weak. When Julia died, the last bond between them was lost. Caesar has taken the love of the people from Pompey, his most prized possesion. The battle between them is inevitable.”

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    Based on their biographies and writing, Julius C was smarter than his grandnephew. Augustus's good luck was to be JC's closest male relative and heir.

    JC repeatedly won battles when outnumbered. Augustus won when it counted, but never so impressively.
    , @guest
    Let's not overlook the fact that Augustus had a HUGE head start by being Caesar's legal heir and inheritor of his name and fortune. If he was just as smart without those things, he probably wouldn't have won.

    Imagine if Zuck was born a Kennedy. Another sort of usually unpresidential ethnicity, but with a giant leg-up in public perception, political capital, and social cachet. Even the duds in that family get fawning media attention.

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “…said Robin Ye, a Chinese American recent graduate of the University of Chicago who is now once again in his native Portland. “The issue is that for many white people, they walk into an office meeting or classroom, see no people of color around, and feel like there’s nothing wrong about that.”’

    I wouldn’t say that, Robin. You’d have to tell me where. Portland, or Chicago, probably quite a bit still wrong with whites there. Feel free to get rid of as many as you want. Idaho, Wyoming, Texas, probably not.

    “Reading all these I Cried Among the Farmland essays of Immigriping, I have to agree with one commenter: They’re not sending their best.”

    - Sad thing is, they probably are.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @DFH
    Why did Zuck marry a Chinese?

    Because no white woman was interested. Perhaps there aren’t as many non-Jewish white women at Harvard the way there used to be.

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  • @Steve Sailer
    Or maybe Zuckerberg could scratch up the money to pay for some tailored suits if his consultants tell him that's what voters want him to wear?

    No different than Romney’s ’12 campaign. And there are similarities between Zuck and Romney. (e.g. both are globalists, don’t come from any one section of the US, both worked in intangible parts of the economy and are easily open to charges of outsourcing, etc).

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  • @Lot
    Some other Zuck advantages is that he is youthful and energetic, appears to be devoted to the same woman his entire adult life, and will have an emotional appeal to Jews/NE Asians.

    The closest think we have had to a tech billionaire running for president was Perot, who could have won if he did not have the breakdown, drop out, get back in thing.

    If he does get in, the Dem primary will be wild. His path to victory could also replicate Trump's: the establishment candidates split the vote 4 or 5 ways while Zuck takes the segments ignored by the establishment: new economy nerds, asians, and middle American white moderates. They are certainly a minority of Dem primary, but Booker, Harris, Gillibrand, and Cuomo will be splitting the black and SJW voters four ways.

    Ok, uh, after carefully considering your main points regarding Zuck, I have to honestly say that I cannot continue to smoke this pipe dream any longer.

    For one thing, Zuckerberg’s being Jewish may not go over so well with black voters. Something to consider though it may not be PC to state it. Many blacks harbor anti-semitic views and may not agree to vote for him in the same vein that they did for Obama, and especially if he chooses a white (or a real light skinned black) to run with him. To black voters, he’s just another whitey.

    Another thing to consider, is that Zuckerberg is very much pro-open borders and all of his pubic statements as well as the organizations he’s funded bear this out. Also, I wouldn’t put him in the same category as Trump, who, because of his traditional brick and mortar businesses, can plausibly claim to have directly created hundreds of thousands (if not more) jobs during his forty plus career.

    How many US workers does Facebook employ? 50? 100? Perhaps 1,000 at most. So, over a little more than a decade Zuck could lay claim to create about 1,000 US based jobs (at most) and about 50-100 at worst. Doesn’t sound like a businessman who’s looking out for the little guy. In fact, it sounds like someone along the lines of Mitt Romney.

    Professionally speaking, and allowing for the quirkiness of both candidates, I see little difference between Zuckerberg and Mitt Romney. Both worked in fields that produce intangible things, have engaged in outsourcing, and don’t particularly give a damn about helping the middle classes.

    I fully get WHY the lower middle class white family in OH, MI, WI, PA, IN, IA voted for Trump. I can never imagine them ever getting enthusiastically exited to go and vote for Zuckerberg. Why would they? Cause he likes Augustus Ceasar? I can’t imagine for the second coming before dawn, that Mark Zuckerberg would ever take such a tangible position as “Let’s build a wall on the Southern Border, yeah! Let’s do it!” That’s not in his profile. That might make many of his pals in Silicon Valley upset and they wouldn’t campaign for him. I mean, where is a potential Zuck base for voting for him? Sanders and even Hillary you can see it. Obama’s base was obvious. There’s nothing for Zuck.

    Did millions of desperate and disillusioned, out of work white families desperate to stay afloat put their trust in the likes of outsourcer Mitt Romney? That’s right, they didn’t. Same thing with Zuck. He doesn’t register much less relate to ordinary Americans, especially compared with “The People’s Billionaire”.

    In some ways, publicly identifying with Augustus and not with Joe and Jane Blow in Ash Cosh WI, Bakersfield,CA Zionsville,IN Butler, PA (the Brexit states) only makes Trump’s case even more. “That guy with the weird cockamamie haircut who wouldn’t know a hammer from nail’s gonna build the wall and clamp down on immigration? Nah, that’s so lame!”

    I mean, the top 1% simply doesn’t have that many votes at the actual ballot box. Too much of a pipe dream and I wouldn’t want to wake up from having taken that bad trip.

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    There is no real world evidence blacks don't like Jews when it is voting time. There is a Cohen in a majority black district in TN, he keeps getting primaried by blacks and keeps winning.

    Another point is that black voters tend to be practical and want winners. Zuck is the biggest winner in business history, a self made decabillionaire at age 25.

    In 00, 04, and 16, blacks went with the moderate establishment Dem who seemed likelier to win, not the more liberal one who promised more goodies. Even in 2008, they stuck with Hillary in polls until Obama started winning Iowa.
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  • Assuming they don’t mind increasing the family’s carbon footprint, it will be interesting to see if they have another child – and if it’s a boy or girl. And if it’s another daughter, will they decide to keep having kids in order to have, you know, a son….

    Does Larry or Sergey have a son available to marry off to one of the Zuckerberg daughters?

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  • @res
    Can you please point me to the full history? I see 90 day charts but nothing further back. Perhaps an account is necessary?

    I don’t see it either, I thought they used to have it.

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  • @Anon
    He's going to lose the women's vote. Women take clothes extremely seriously, and they're freaked out by a man who just wears the same type of grey T-shirt every day. He's the type that women classify as a brain-damaged freak, and they won't vote for him. They think that a guy who doesn't know how to dress for social occasions is someone who doesn't pick up on or understand social cues at all. Women classify that type of man as a joke. Of course, that's a perfectly accurate real-life assessment of the Zuck.

    Besides, The Fifty Shades of Grey billionaire is supposed to dress better than that, and be more savvy.

    Or maybe Zuckerberg could scratch up the money to pay for some tailored suits if his consultants tell him that’s what voters want him to wear?

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    No different than Romney's '12 campaign. And there are similarities between Zuck and Romney. (e.g. both are globalists, don't come from any one section of the US, both worked in intangible parts of the economy and are easily open to charges of outsourcing, etc).
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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @Nico
    And in England, impregnating white girls.

    Doesn’t the morning after pill and abortion take of that Praise Allah?

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  • @anonymous

    What struck me was the very frank and seldom heard opinions by POC born and raised in Portland who are tired—understandably so—by new transplants like myself criticizing their city.
     
    I don't understand this quote. Is he saying that people of color who were born and raised in Portland are tired of newbies like Mr. Janmohamed complaining about Portland?

    I thought his beef was against whites. But I read his quote as POC, not whites, are tired of the new transplants complaining about Portland.

    The point is not to make sense.

    The point is to use one’s immigration status as a PC orange crate to haul into the public square, whereupon to b!tch, and b!tch loudly and without cease.

    It’s a highly feminized form of communication. Trying to figure it out–so that, then, what? you can fix it?–is pointless.

    Except where it keeps guys tied up in trying to figure it out and fix it.

    Scan this, then substitute “immigrants” for “women.”

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/26v17z/do_women_have_an_emotional_need_to_complain/#bottom-comments

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  • @Brutusale
    And it's a good chance that the city is about to elect a chocolate mayor, a namesake of the old Jackson Five.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito_Jackson_(politician)

    He seems measurably more intelligent than the dumb Mick who's the current mayor. The downside is that he'll immediately start fighting with the cops and firefighters about their unbearable whiteness. The only people in Boston doing any sort of good job are the cops.

    Steve will ban this for the Mick slur, but I refuse to remove it!

    Steve will ban this for the Mick slur, but I refuse to remove it!

    The taigs are a protected class now?

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • I know some older women from Italy named Augusta. I think it’s a beautiful name and a great name for a daughter. I prefer Augusta over August, but I still think August is a beautiful girl’s name. I wouldn’t consider it a wrong-gender or mis-gendered name. And even then, I don’t even dislike misgendered names, like naming a girl Charlie. I wouldn’t choose that name myself, but I don’t dislike it.

    Sailer makes a reference to Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. He was one of the more benevolent, constructive dictators. He was still a dictator backed my military means, but he seemed to have genuinely positive intentions with free market economics.

    I can fault Zuckerberg for other things… Here, I see nothing worthy of criticism.

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  • @bossel

    Giving a girl a girl’s name is sexist, dontchaknow?

    Naming her after a Chilean dictator, in contrast, is stereotype shattering.
     
    Or, just maybe, it's idiotic to say a girl's name isn't a girl's name just because it's not so common (anymore)?
    Wiktionary: "August (plural Augusts)

    The eighth month of the Roman, Julian, and Gregorian calendars, following July and preceding September.
    A female given name derived from the month (rare modern usage).
    [...]
    In some cases a month name from English. In other cases inspired by the common German given name August, from Latin Augustus.
    Proper noun

    August

    A male given name. "


    August as a male name seems more German than anything else. & since when is Sailer in favour of using German names in the US?

    Why did I waste time answering this seriously?

    To make up:

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @bossel

    Giving a girl a girl’s name is sexist, dontchaknow?

    Naming her after a Chilean dictator, in contrast, is stereotype shattering.
     
    Or, just maybe, it's idiotic to say a girl's name isn't a girl's name just because it's not so common (anymore)?
    Wiktionary: "August (plural Augusts)

    The eighth month of the Roman, Julian, and Gregorian calendars, following July and preceding September.
    A female given name derived from the month (rare modern usage).
    [...]
    In some cases a month name from English. In other cases inspired by the common German given name August, from Latin Augustus.
    Proper noun

    August

    A male given name. "


    August as a male name seems more German than anything else. & since when is Sailer in favour of using German names in the US?

    The only citation for the rare modern usage of “August” as a female name is from Margaret Atwood’s “The Robber Bride”, which features as its leads the three traditionally-named female characters Tony, Charis, and Roz.

    In the movie the character is named “Augusta” and the wiki citation may well be a typo for all I know.

    The typical masculine English form would seem to be Augustus (see Augustus Fink-Nottle for a notable example) but August is as far as I know an acceptable variant.

    Edit: In Atwood apparently “August” is used only for the (asexual?) child because “August turned into Augusta” at some point. Perhaps some Atwood fan can help me out here.

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  • @Charles Pewitt
    The Roman Empire was overrun by Germans. I wish the Germans were the ones overrunning the American Empire. Mark Zuckerberg is a Jew billionaire who wants to flood the United States with non-European foreigners in order to attack the European Christian ancestral core of the United States. Shelly Adelson is a billionaire Jew who also wants to flood the United States with non-European foreigners.

    This 2014 Tweet is still fresh:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/486924026619502592

    Contemporary Germans are not that inspiring.

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @nigel
    "But you can bike in the innercity."

    Any bicycle in an American metro automatically becomes part of the African American Urban Bikeshare Initiative. That bike is not going to be there when you get back.

    Look up bait bikes on YouTube. Bike theft is predictable enough that there is an entire genre of YouTube videos dedicated to it.

    There is a great Youtube video of some guy who wired an electrical shock device to the seat of this bike, left it lying around in a vibrant neighborhood, and then filmed the hilarious attempts to steal the bike.

    This may be it: http://www.cyclingweekly.com/videos/watch/pranksters-give-bike-thieves-a-nasty-shock-video

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @DFH
    Why did Zuck marry a Chinese?

    There’s a higher percentage of Asian women than there used to be in the computing and tech industry, so that’s why they’re marrying nerdy guys. The percentage of Asian women in US colleges has also increased dramatically in the last 40 years, so that means more white guys-Asian women hookups.

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  • @Cwhatfuture
    Zuckerberg has a minimum of 40 IQ points on Kamla Harris and he has a vision: a shiny America where technology solves all problems

    That may be nonsense but what is the vision of the GOP? An increasingly shabby America where lowering the marginal tax rate for the top 1% solves all problems?

    This guy went head to head with Google while in his 20s and he beat them. Kamla Harris or the GOP won't scare him.

    Of course his sister may be trying to sabotage all that by going full SJW but I suspect he will rein her in as he gets closer to announcing

    Solving all problems with tech won’t appeal to working-class voters. They are the people who end up being replaced by tech, and they know it. They want jobs for themselves, not more technology.

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  • @The Man From K Street

    Trump looks more like Schwarzeneggar in Cali every day (one-termer).
     
    You do know that Arnold was re-elected in his own right, correct?

    But perhaps you mean that Trump will mirror him in another respect: Arnie tried to govern as a right-populist for a few months after his election in the 2003 recall, but after being stymied by the legislature and in referenda, he decided eff this for a game of soldiers, fired Pete Wilson and all the others who were coaching him in his start, and governed as a bog-standard liberal for the remainder of his six years in office in a ploy for high approval ratings.

    Trump doesn't have that option. The MSM will not allow him to "mellow" into another RINO.

    Right-populism was never going to work in California due to the demographics. Latin American populism is always left wing.

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  • @Anonymous
    I find this quite insightful.

    A few thoughts:

    1) Very few people took Trump seriously. That much is obvious. But people who are at least somewhat sympathetic to Trump, in some ways, which includes most people here, may be liable to misunderstand this, and think that it is mainly because we get it and they are bunch of... I don't know exactly. The people who failed to predict Trump's rise range from the CIA to Antifa. Did they all fail in exactly the same way? Maybe, but that is a deep question, and it is not obvious how to answer it. What is clear is that there is now even more instability in the political system. This offers opportunities both for creative outsiders in general, and for those who can reliably promise to offer some sort of familiar uniformity that promises to end chaos. Zuckerberg is both an outsider to the political system, in the same way as Trump, but richer, but also someone in many ways extremely familiar, and associated with stability.

    2) Zuckerberg might seem weird, geeky, whatever... but we are in new territory. What are Zuckerberg's eccentricities being compared to? Trump's? Trump is an extreme (in a personal, if not political sense) and polarizing figure who... was elected President! As for the Democratic likely's in 2020 (or 2024), they are mainly political hacks. That Sanders, who was not even a Democrat, was the main opposition to Hillary was largely due to the realization on the part of sincere leftists (too late) that she was a corrupt globalist. But he was a throwback to another era, and served to fill a void. Zuckerberg's strangeness is liable to seem an asset. Many, many people voted for Trump despite finding him odd and not a role model for children. At least he was better than them, the thinking went...

    3) Zuckerberg is, as they say, a "cishet white man". No doubt many people who are being purged from the internet object to his being a Jew married to an Asian... but many "cishet white men" who voted for Trump are less than entirely enthusiastic about Nazis of any sort, real, fake or otherwise. He is, moreover, by at least some metrics, a very successful cishet white man. More successful than Trump, even. He's richer than Trump. He's probably smarter than Trump. He is clearly more intellectually curious than Trump. Both have built businesses that mostly cater to the baser instincts of humanity, mostly. I'll call that a tie, since adjudicating it requires a complex debate. Trump has been with more attractive women. But judging a man's success by the number and sex appeal of the women he's banged is ... while better than many things ... still a sign of a decadent society. I think most men, most "cishet white men" at least and probably many others too, sort of grasp this complex fact.

    4) I suspect most Democratic candidates are liable to fall into the trap that Ted Cruz fell into. (Or maybe some will do much worse. Cruz was clearly the most astute. He strikes me as much more astute than most of the Democratic contenders.) Cruz embraced Trump, thinking he would eventually fall away. But Trump didn't.

    5) Steve has noted that Zuck, in reality, seems to have center-right tendencies. (Ignore his public acts.) Steve also suggested that he might actually have a range of quite masculine interests. This strikes me as about right. Forget what SJW's say: most actual men want to do manly things, and this includes highly intelligent "geeks". But they don't want to sacrifice their intelligence or their intellectual curiosity. I could easily see Zuckerberg genuinely denouncing some elements of the current left. Once he is actually running for President, he could easily come out with an overt denunciation of Antifa, for instance, and promise that they will be treated just like "Nazis". Don't lose track of reality: they hatehim.

    6) Recent political events have revealed the current Democratic party as being an extremely unstable alliance between the top globalists and some of the most extreme anti-globalists. This "alliance" might seem to work so long as the opposition is not organized. But clearly, the opposition to that alliance is getting organized and battle is underway. If it no longer serves the interest of cosmopolitan globalists to ally with dirty antifa types, why not jettison them? Why not promise order and amusement and a feeling of connectedness? Why not embrace a degree of "realism" and jettison the hardcore SJW stuff, while at the same time mocking the "idealism" of some of the current dissident class? (I mean dissident rightists...) Couldn't this win?

    7) Facebook, so far as I can tell, is doomed. It is too dependent on perception, and in an unstable environment, will eventually lose cachet. By contrast, Google/Alphabet and Amazon control infrastructure. Zuck could excusably divest himself of Facebook shares if he is going into politics, so that he does not precipitate a collapse. This could even be the thing that saves Facebook, if it becomes a sort of Trump Tower exponentiated.

    8) If he is really seriously interested in Augustus, then he is interested in the transformation of Rome from a republic, a republic immersed in decades of civil conflict, into an empire. It was a republic that, against the advice of many, had acquired a great deal of power over others, and didn't exactly know how to deal with that. "Rome" seemed on the verge of fragmentation, but survived another five centuries. Augustus Caesar is better than Hitler.

    That strikes me as a pretty good point, so I'll stop there.

    In times of instability, countries typically vote for strongmen, not aspy geeks who come across as overly precious and weak when strength is needed to handle a crisis. Name one genuine aspy geek who’s ever been elected US president.

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    Calvin Coolidge and both John Adamses come to mind, although (IMO) they'd never be elected today, and of course they were all one-termers (voluntarily in Coolidge's case).
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    OT: A first for the Washington Post.

    Black-clad antifa members attack peaceful right-wing demonstrators in Berkeley.

    Their faces hidden behind black bandannas and hoodies, about 100 anarchists and antifa— “anti-fascist” — members barreled into a protest Sunday afternoon in Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park.

    Jumping over plastic and concrete barriers, the group melted into a larger crowd of around 2,000 that had marched peacefully throughout the sunny afternoon for a “Rally Against Hate” gathering.

    Shortly after, violence began to flare. A pepper-spray-wielding Trump supporter was smacked to the ground with homemade shields. Another was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself.
     

    I've set my timer to see how long it takes before both headline and story are revised.

    I doubt it has anything to do with give. Likely the Post/Bezos ran a private poll on the popularity of Antifa, and the results told them any more bias and Democratic promotion of Antifa would tank them in the next round of national elections, and it scared the heck out of the Post. If the optics become Antifa=Democrats (which is exactly what is happening), then the Dems will become known as the party of illegal violence, and they’ll be finished as a national party. Mr. and Mrs. Average American are not impressed by adolescent street violence, although aspy and clueless Dems are always overly impressed by it because Democrats suffer from arrested emotional development.

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  • Giving a girl a girl’s name is sexist, dontchaknow?

    Naming her after a Chilean dictator, in contrast, is stereotype shattering.

    Or, just maybe, it’s idiotic to say a girl’s name isn’t a girl’s name just because it’s not so common (anymore)?
    Wiktionary: “August (plural Augusts)

    The eighth month of the Roman, Julian, and Gregorian calendars, following July and preceding September.
    A female given name derived from the month (rare modern usage).
    [...]
    In some cases a month name from English. In other cases inspired by the common German given name August, from Latin Augustus.
    Proper noun

    August

    A male given name. ”

    August as a male name seems more German than anything else. & since when is Sailer in favour of using German names in the US?

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    The only citation for the rare modern usage of "August" as a female name is from Margaret Atwood's "The Robber Bride", which features as its leads the three traditionally-named female characters Tony, Charis, and Roz.

    In the movie the character is named "Augusta" and the wiki citation may well be a typo for all I know.

    The typical masculine English form would seem to be Augustus (see Augustus Fink-Nottle for a notable example) but August is as far as I know an acceptable variant.

    Edit: In Atwood apparently "August" is used only for the (asexual?) child because "August turned into Augusta" at some point. Perhaps some Atwood fan can help me out here.

    , @Anon
    Why did I waste time answering this seriously?

    To make up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w

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  • @J1234

    Naming his daughter, say, Julia after Julius Caesar’s much-admired daughter would have been a low key way for Zuckerberg to indulge his taste for Roman history, without saddling his daughter with a strange, wrong-sex first name.
     
    This is an intentional signal from the rich, the powerful and the influential to the rest of us: they are above culture. While we all find familiarity in our inter-generational continuity, they find the whole thing annoying and confining. Their elite position and circumstance open up all sorts of new horizons to them, and they want us to know it. They're kind of like the effeminate nobility class of the 18th century.

    I’ve noticed that ghetto blacks have the same thoughts when it comes to naming their own children. Their kids don’t need any conventional names because they aren’t going to need any stinkin’ jobs, or have to please any boss-man, no way, not with whitey paying for everything via welfare.

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @guest
    I increasingly live among black people (and near farmland, but I don't cry among either), who I imagine are bused in from the cities and told to run free. Like how people get rid of "problem dogs" in the movies. Anyway, I don't see them riding bikes. But I'm also not aware of biking as a white thing. Unlike swimming.

    White people ride for reasons of conscience, leisure, sport, and utility. My guess would be blacks are less likely to ride for the first three, but I don't know. Certainly they would if it came in handy. For instance, when your license is suspended.

    I'm beginning to believe that black people like to stereotype themselves as not doing things, even things not strongly associated with whites or other non-blacks, simply to stand out. Makes sense for things like swimming or hunting, which may involve going out into Klan Kountry or Get Out-ville. But you can bike in the innercity.

    “But you can bike in the innercity.”

    Any bicycle in an American metro automatically becomes part of the African American Urban Bikeshare Initiative. That bike is not going to be there when you get back.

    Look up bait bikes on YouTube. Bike theft is predictable enough that there is an entire genre of YouTube videos dedicated to it.

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    There is a great Youtube video of some guy who wired an electrical shock device to the seat of this bike, left it lying around in a vibrant neighborhood, and then filmed the hilarious attempts to steal the bike.

    This may be it: http://www.cyclingweekly.com/videos/watch/pranksters-give-bike-thieves-a-nasty-shock-video
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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @mobi
    He's cornered, too, on the First Amendment:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833109/Zuckerberg-Animals-taste-better-ve-hunted-yourself.html


    ‘Things taste better when you make them yourself,' he said. 'And they taste doubly better when you’ve hunted the animal yourself.’

    Zuckerberg said he has been hunting for around four or five years, saying it's a 'good way to feel connected to nature.'

    ...He added: 'It's pretty fun, that's why so many people enjoy it.'
     

    Unless he hunts with his bare hands.

    Or points to the target, and has his entourage do the dirty work.

    He’s trying to appear less nerdy to the masses, but he’s going to enrage the left with the optics on this and lost the Democratic primary

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @Brutusale
    And it's a good chance that the city is about to elect a chocolate mayor, a namesake of the old Jackson Five.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito_Jackson_(politician)

    He seems measurably more intelligent than the dumb Mick who's the current mayor. The downside is that he'll immediately start fighting with the cops and firefighters about their unbearable whiteness. The only people in Boston doing any sort of good job are the cops.

    Steve will ban this for the Mick slur, but I refuse to remove it!

    Steve will ban this for the Mick slur, but I refuse to remove it!

    How would we ever have known? OK, then, Mick it is!

    Just don’t try to call anyone a beaner*.

    (C’mon, Steve, they’re just LOADED with protein.**)
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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @syonredux
    <blockquote>In one of the film’s early scenes, Zuckerberg and friends are partying at the Jewish fraternity Alpha Epsilon Pi, on “Caribbean Night,” when they observe a group of Asian-American young women dancing in a cluster.

    “There’s an algorithm for the connection between Jewish guys and Asian girls,” one of Zuckerberg’s friends says wryly. “They’re hot, smart, not Jewish and can dance.”


    Sorkin would have us believe that in the eyes of some Jewish men — or at least, you know, those run-of-the-mill Harvard scholars — one of the best things about being an Asian woman is that she isn’t a Jewish woman. If this were pure fiction, it might sting a little less, but unfortunately it isn’t: Zuckerberg, who might be the most eligible Jewish bachelor in the world met his current girlfriend, Chinese-American medical student Priscilla Chan on erev Shabbat at an AEPi party during his sophomore year.
     http://www.huffingtonpost.com/danielle-berrin/the-social-network-mark-z_b_741914.html

    Asian women are being practical when they chase after nerds who turn off Anglo women. The Asians are looking at long-term earnings potential.

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  • @carol
    I had a favorite cousin named Augusta. Which sadly became Gussie.

    She was a top student, got an elite education. Last I heard she was teaching esl classes.

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  • @mobi

    They should’ve called their second daughter Minima.
     
    And their third, 'Mean'

    And their third, ‘Mean’

    And their fourth, “Median”.

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Detective Club
    Fuck-You-Berg owns 50 tee-shirts. Does each one have a different name? Inquiring minds want to know! NOT!
    https://youtu.be/IatovFVJrjI

    He’s going to lose the women’s vote. Women take clothes extremely seriously, and they’re freaked out by a man who just wears the same type of grey T-shirt every day. He’s the type that women classify as a brain-damaged freak, and they won’t vote for him. They think that a guy who doesn’t know how to dress for social occasions is someone who doesn’t pick up on or understand social cues at all. Women classify that type of man as a joke. Of course, that’s a perfectly accurate real-life assessment of the Zuck.

    Besides, The Fifty Shades of Grey billionaire is supposed to dress better than that, and be more savvy.

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    Or maybe Zuckerberg could scratch up the money to pay for some tailored suits if his consultants tell him that's what voters want him to wear?
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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • Whites possess an externalized form of altruism, not present in any other race. Every race (but whites) has internalized their altruism, directing it inward, primarily to do what is good for their own respective races.
    White externalized altruism looks out for the downtrodden, disadvantaged, and others who are perceived to be in need of “help”.
    Let’s look at what these evil “privileged” whites have done for the United States (and the world):
    1. Well-meaning, but misguided “civil-rights (for some)” laws and statutes that have marginalized whites, while extending “extra” rights–only to people of color”. In fact, these special “civil-rights (for some)” protections, laws and statutes DO NOT APPLY to whites.
    2. Prohibiting true “freedom of association”, but only for whites. “People of color” can discriminate and form their own race-exclusive organizations and are, quite often praised for doing so.
    3. The institution of race-based “affirmative action” policies which effectively marginalize truly qualified whites, in favor of “people of color” with lesser abilities and skills.
    4. Race-based scholarships and grants are looked upon favorably EXCEPT FOR WHITES.
    Every other race has downtrodden and disadvantaged types within their own respective race, and still do not offer help to those within their own race, let alone those of other races.
    Almost every other race has gotten on to the “blame whitey” bandwagon, assigning blame for their own shortcomings and failures on the backs of whites (who built this society).
    It is long overdue for whites to abandon their externalized altruism and turn it inward, just as every other race has done. There is absolutely no shame in looking out for “your own kind” first.
    I, for one, am PROUD to be called “racist”. When the name-calling commences, I offer to shake their hands, and state “thank you for noticing”. The bewildered looks on their faces is priceless.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • Remember, Augustus also had a daughter named Julia who was a notorious slut and party girl who was exiled by her father along with her pal Ovid (the poet). Being the classicist he is, Markus Zuckus must know this.

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    The Julia who was exiled along with Ovid (though not to the same place) was not Augustus' daughter, but granddaughter. She's called Julia Minor (the Younger) to differentiate her from her mother Julia, i.e. Augustus' daughter.
    Augustus wound up disavowing and exiling both women to small desolate islands, though the daughter was eventually allowed to return. The granddaughter died in exile.
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  • @guest
    In the Social Network they show either a Jewish frat party, or just a generic Jewish mixer. Asian ladies show up, and the characters talk about Jewish men's attraction to Asian girls, which is apparently a Thing.

    Later, the co-founder dates a Crazy Asian Girlfriend.

    In real life, Zuck marries an Asian.

    I guess it's just a Thing.

    <blockquote>In one of the film’s early scenes, Zuckerberg and friends are partying at the Jewish fraternity Alpha Epsilon Pi, on “Caribbean Night,” when they observe a group of Asian-American young women dancing in a cluster.

    “There’s an algorithm for the connection between Jewish guys and Asian girls,” one of Zuckerberg’s friends says wryly. “They’re hot, smart, not Jewish and can dance.”

    Sorkin would have us believe that in the eyes of some Jewish men — or at least, you know, those run-of-the-mill Harvard scholars — one of the best things about being an Asian woman is that she isn’t a Jewish woman. If this were pure fiction, it might sting a little less, but unfortunately it isn’t: Zuckerberg, who might be the most eligible Jewish bachelor in the world met his current girlfriend, Chinese-American medical student Priscilla Chan on erev Shabbat at an AEPi party during his sophomore year.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/danielle-berrin/the-social-network-mark-z_b_741914.html

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    Asian women are being practical when they chase after nerds who turn off Anglo women. The Asians are looking at long-term earnings potential.
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  • @Lot
    I don't follow it closely. You can get full history on the site.

    Can you please point me to the full history? I see 90 day charts but nothing further back. Perhaps an account is necessary?

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    I don't see it either, I thought they used to have it.
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  • @StillCARealist
    Like Gussie Finknottle? I think that was her name. Wodehouse rules.

    Except that was a he (Augustus): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gussie_Fink-Nottle

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • I handle “immigripers” this way: When they brag about how good life is “in the old country”, while criticizing and condemning their host country, I ask them point-blank: “If life was so good in the old country, why did you come here?” Shuts ‘em up, every time.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @Flip
    And several August Busches of the beer family.

    He should have gone with Augusta for the daughter.

    Whenever I hear the name “Augusta”, I think of this mother:

    http://real-life-villains.wikia.com/wiki/Augusta_Gein

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  • @res
    What was up with the high spiking to 65 on August 2nd? Can you get data/charts farther back than 90 days?

    I don’t follow it closely. You can get full history on the site.

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  • @Lot
    Some other Zuck advantages is that he is youthful and energetic, appears to be devoted to the same woman his entire adult life, and will have an emotional appeal to Jews/NE Asians.

    The closest think we have had to a tech billionaire running for president was Perot, who could have won if he did not have the breakdown, drop out, get back in thing.

    If he does get in, the Dem primary will be wild. His path to victory could also replicate Trump's: the establishment candidates split the vote 4 or 5 ways while Zuck takes the segments ignored by the establishment: new economy nerds, asians, and middle American white moderates. They are certainly a minority of Dem primary, but Booker, Harris, Gillibrand, and Cuomo will be splitting the black and SJW voters four ways.

    How do you think Zuck would respond to BLM on his podium? One thing I think people here are missing in the Trump/Zuck comparison is Trump’s decades of experience in manufacturing and promoting his public persona. Perhaps Zuck will be able to make it through the campaign and debates with no major missteps, but I don’t see his previous experience really preparing him for that.

    I wonder how the black and SJW voters would react to a candidate who defeats someone they think “deserves” the nomination and is one of them. Their expectations are sky high right now.

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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • Zahir Janmohamed is a grade “A” @ssh0le. Portland is racist??? Give me a F*CKING BREAK! The place is so liberal that they think San Franciscans are literally Hitler. This guy is a creep and just looking to get on the top of the “victimhood” pyramid.

    If anything the people he met were trying to show an interest in him and make him feel comfortable in their city. Cry me a river.

    There’s a reason that show is called “Portlandia.”

    Zahir Janmohamed has to go back. Wouldn’t want him to cry over racist Portland or Ohio.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @syonredux

    Remember the Campbell, Mackinzie, etc fad for girls? More and more I like the traditional names, Anne, Mary, Elizabeth, Barbara, Marilyn, Ellen, Eleanor and the endless El*** variations Richard, Robert, Thomas, Jeffrey. James, John,
     
    Traditional names (the older the better) are always a solid choice. A friend of mine recently gave birth to a baby girl, and she was torn between naming her either Madison or Rachel. I convinced her to go with Rachel. It's been around for millennia.

    I did the opposite, trying to dissuade someone from naming their daughter Rachel.

    Me: Do you know Rachel means “ewe”? Are you going to name your daughter “sheep”? “Female sheep”, how can you do that to her?!

    The mother wasn’t fazed by this information. She chose the name for its sound, had no idea that it meant anything, and figured (accurately, it appears) that no one else would either know or care.

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    I did the opposite, trying to dissuade someone from naming their daughter Rachel.

    Me: Do you know Rachel means “ewe”? Are you going to name your daughter “sheep”? “Female sheep”, how can you do that to her?!

    The mother wasn’t fazed by this information. She chose the name for its sound, had no idea that it meant anything, and figured (accurately, it appears) that no one else would either know or care.
     
    Nothing wrong with a woman having sheep-like qualities.....provided, of course, that she has a good shepherd......
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  • @Marat Said
    Ha!
    You know, this would actually be quite Roman. One of the most common ways to differentiate between women in the same family with the same name was to use the comparative adjectives Maior (bigger, elder) and Minor (lesser, younger), as we see with the two famous Agrippinas. Maxima and minima are the superlative forms of those adjectives --- though I think this would work better with three children. And then, what could the one in the middle be called, the Latin for "most middling"?

    The middle one (feminine) would be Media.

    But of course no baby is a middle child at name-giving time.

    The Romans sometimes gave ordinal names to boys: Tertius, Quintus, Sextus, Septimus, and Octavus from which is derived Octavianus, the name of the man who became Augustus.

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  • @Lot
    Yet I made like $1400 betting on the 2016 primary and general election. Check my comment history, I said everyone should buy Trump wins NC when it was even money and buy Trump Utah at the peak of the McMuffin bubble when it was about 3:2.

    I am betting on Zuck Runs right now. Got in at 22, now at 32. I will sell at 60.

    https://www.predictit.org/Contract/5534/Will-Facebook's-Mark-Zuckerberg-run-for-president-in-2020

    What was up with the high spiking to 65 on August 2nd? Can you get data/charts farther back than 90 days?

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    I don't follow it closely. You can get full history on the site.
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  • @anonguy
    And the hyperventilating in the alt-right-o-sphere was just as absurd and hysterical as it was at Oberlin or wherever other hate hoaxes happen.

    Not sure about that. It was absurd and hysterical, but compare the response to graffiti on LeBron’s house and then think about the severity of what happened. You do you remember all those widely disseminated news stories about that graffiti, right?

    The differences I see:
    - It looks like the hoaxer is actually going to be punished for the hoax.
    - The right seems to be OK with that punishment. (though I for one complain about the differing responses to left/right hoaxes, I think the punishment is proper).
    - The right is actually talking about the hoax rather than simply memory holing it.

    P.S. A good Bayesian uses priors but updates them when counter evidence is found. I think the prior on right hate hoaxes just increased, but is still far lower than for a leftist hate hoax.

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    A good Bayesian uses priors but updates them when counter evidence is found. I think the prior on right hate hoaxes just increased, but is still far lower than for a leftist hate hoax.
     
    Agreed; in the future I'm not going to be so credulous (as I foolishly was with this guy) about cases where rightists claim to have been violently attacked by unknown assailants, but anatomy and common sense indicate their wounds were self-inflicted. (In my partial defense I think it was more his status as active-duty military than the political angle that caused me to abandon Occam's Razor).

    The right is actually talking about the hoax rather than simply memory holing it.
     
    Is it? Steve hasn't posted about the hoax revelation and we're the only ones I've seen talking about it in the comments (that I've read).

    Come to think of it, I can think of more than two right-wing hate hoaxes. Leftists would say (correctly, IMO, given what we consider to be left-wing hate hoaxes) that we ought to count that fairly common type of case where a white woman either blames a crime she committed and/or (like "B" woman) falsely claims to have been attacked by "a black man."

    That variety of hate hoax makes the national news at least a few times a year, which isn't nothing, even accounting for the obvious observation that such stories are promoted as loudly as possible, while stories about the more-common reverse variety where a member of the Coalition of the Ascendant falsely accuses "a white man" are quashed ASAP after the hoax is revealed.
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  • @kaganovitch
    No pokemon points for Pinochet! He usurped the Great White Hope, the beloved Allende.

    Does that make Pinochet a White Hispanic, like Zimmerman?

    I’m starting to think that Cuckersperg really screwed up.

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  • @Vermont Apple
    They should've called their second daughter Minima.

    Ha!
    You know, this would actually be quite Roman. One of the most common ways to differentiate between women in the same family with the same name was to use the comparative adjectives Maior (bigger, elder) and Minor (lesser, younger), as we see with the two famous Agrippinas. Maxima and minima are the superlative forms of those adjectives — though I think this would work better with three children. And then, what could the one in the middle be called, the Latin for “most middling”?

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    The middle one (feminine) would be Media.

    But of course no baby is a middle child at name-giving time.

    The Romans sometimes gave ordinal names to boys: Tertius, Quintus, Sextus, Septimus, and Octavus from which is derived Octavianus, the name of the man who became Augustus.
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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @larry lurker

    No thanks, I’ll stay here in 95% White Boston.
     
    Boston is 46% non-Hispanic white according to the 2015 census. It was 95% in 1950.

    Wikipedia: Boston#Demographics

    And it’s a good chance that the city is about to elect a chocolate mayor, a namesake of the old Jackson Five.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito_Jackson_(politician)

    He seems measurably more intelligent than the dumb Mick who’s the current mayor. The downside is that he’ll immediately start fighting with the cops and firefighters about their unbearable whiteness. The only people in Boston doing any sort of good job are the cops.

    Steve will ban this for the Mick slur, but I refuse to remove it!

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    Steve will ban this for the Mick slur, but I refuse to remove it!
     
    How would we ever have known? OK, then, Mick it is!

    Just don't try to call anyone a beaner*.

    (C'mon, Steve, they're just LOADED with protein.**)
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    Steve will ban this for the Mick slur, but I refuse to remove it!
     
    The taigs are a protected class now?
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  • @al gore rhythms
    "Our generosity to the non-white world has been unprecedented in world history"

    But can you call it generosity when half the people don't want them here and the other half only want them because the other half dont?

    The generosity of spirit that you say half of the natives lack in no way changes the fact that these very same people give aid and sustenance to these immingrates.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @Desiderius
    Trump looks more like Schwarzeneggar in Cali every day (one-termer).

    I think Zuck runs as an R.

    Trump looks more like Schwarzeneggar in Cali every day (one-termer).

    You do know that Arnold was re-elected in his own right, correct?

    But perhaps you mean that Trump will mirror him in another respect: Arnie tried to govern as a right-populist for a few months after his election in the 2003 recall, but after being stymied by the legislature and in referenda, he decided eff this for a game of soldiers, fired Pete Wilson and all the others who were coaching him in his start, and governed as a bog-standard liberal for the remainder of his six years in office in a ploy for high approval ratings.

    Trump doesn’t have that option. The MSM will not allow him to “mellow” into another RINO.

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    Right-populism was never going to work in California due to the demographics. Latin American populism is always left wing.
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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @3g4me
    @82 jim jones: "My Filipino neighbour is a nurse at the local NHS Hospital . . . " Another job White people won't do?

    The only English Filippinos know is "I'm an American" or "I'm married to an American" or "I want to be an American."

    My girlfriend’s hospital in Boston has had a recent influx of Filipino nurses. According to her, they’re marginally less obnoxious than the Haitian and Jamaican staff.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @Anonymous
    It's just a cheap trans-aware gesture. The girl will call herself Augusta and everybody knows it. Unisex baby names are probably the fashion now. Giving girls 'girly' names will soon be cause for social disapproval in politically correct circles.

    Names going from boy names to girl names is a thing in English (and other languages for all I know). Baby name books sometimes discuss this phenomenon. For example, Archie Bunker’s first name is about the most masculine name that could be imagined. It means manly. It comes from Charlemagne. Etc.

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  • @mobi

    Vox Day has an interesting post which says that you can only communicate with people who are within 30 IQ points. I assume Zuck has a high IQ so he will never be able to establish any rapport with the general population:
     
    And here:

    when IQ differences are greater than 30 points, leader/follower relationships will break down or will not form. It establishes an absolute limit to the intellectual gulf between leader and followers.
     

    ...D.K. Simonton found that persuasiveness is at its maximum when the IQ differential between speaker and audience is about 20 points.

    ...This has been corroborated with empirical studies of manager and leader success, which peaks between a 1.0 and 1.2 standard deviation differential.
     


    ...We already know that elites have an average IQ of about 125 (R16 128) which implies that the audience that is to be convinced by the elites has a mean R16IQ of 108... People with R16IQs below 98...are not effective followers and in a modern meritocracy are essentially disenfranchised and in the public discourse, essentially 'The Clueless'. It means that the 'The Followers' in the public discourse have a R16IQ mode of 108 R16IQ and 'The Leaders' have a R16IQ mode of 128 (125 D15IQ). These calculations provide us with a theoretical understanding of why the intellectually elite professions so consistently have mean D15IQs of 125.
     

    ...In free markets people choose to whom they listen. In other words, in audiences dominated by high school graduates, who average around 105 IQ, the successful leaders will have an average IQ of 105+20=125. Speakers with R16IQs over 105+30=135 (D15IQ130) will be cancelled from radio, fired from TV and print or not elected because they confuse rather than enlighten their audience. A college educated audience (115 IQ) will be most convinced by a R16IQ of 115+20=135 and confused by a 115+30=145 R16IQ (140 D15IQ).
     

    ...So we see that these parameters of maximum persuasiveness of 20 R16 points and maximum leader/follower differential of 30 R16 points, create a natural trifurcation of enfranchised people into 'The Advisors' (128-168 R16IQ; 125-155 D15IQ), Leaders (115-141 R16IQ; 112-138 D15IQ) and Followers (98-128 R16IQ; 98-125 D15IQ) 'The Clueless' with D15 IQs below 98 are effectively lost to the process. They cannot really understand the public discourse and will often not follow discussions in productive environments.

    People with D15IQs over 150 are effectively 'The Excluded', routinely finding their thoughts to be unconvincing in the public discourse and in productive environments. If placed in a leadership position, they will not succeed.
     

    [and much more]

    http://polymatharchives.blogspot.ca/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html


    Zuckerberg obviously succeeds, but with a highly pre-selected group of already-high IQ followers.

    With the masses, he does, and will, struggle to connect, and seem 'real'.

    Pretty much the effect we can already sense.

    Zuckerberg suffers from a fatal arrogance … probably due to his reflexive assessment of his high IQ as well as what happened to him that magic summer when angel investors launched him into the stratosphere. Zuck once made the comment that he could afford to drop out of Harvard at the end of his sophomore year because he knew he had the resources (and, one assumes, the intelligence) to land on his feet regardless of what he did in life. In a self-assessment, he proved it.

    Arrogance also explains Zuck’s plan, as President, to pass out “free” money to the proles so that they have the free time and free money to do what he did … learn to code, design an app to pick up girls, and make billions in Silicon Valley. (We know in our hearts that is not what the proles would do with “free” money.)

    Zuck’s message: “I want everyone to have the opportunity to be like me, as I model myself after Augustus, the first Emperor of Rome … Princeps and Pontifex Maximus and lots of other things.” He wants the universe modeled on his eminence.

    “No thanks, Zuck, I’ll pass.”

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  • @Ed
    IQ isn't everything. This is politics not a quiz show. People don't like being spoken down to. If he doesn't know how to communicate with people. If he can't connect with the white working class or blacks he's not going anywhere. He won't even win the Dem primary.

    Agree.

    That is why I think you will see more attempts at normalizing – like Zuckerberg’s recent declaration at his Harvard Commencement speech that he prays at times of great challenge, his claim that he hunts etc., his sister’s resentful wackiness notwithstanding.

    I don’t use Facebook but what this guy did is impressive. He undoubtedly understands the problem you note and is working on it.

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  • @guest
    In the Social Network they show either a Jewish frat party, or just a generic Jewish mixer. Asian ladies show up, and the characters talk about Jewish men's attraction to Asian girls, which is apparently a Thing.

    Later, the co-founder dates a Crazy Asian Girlfriend.

    In real life, Zuck marries an Asian.

    I guess it's just a Thing.

    In my experience, it’s a Thing with Jewish guys with sisters.

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  • @DFH
    Why did Zuck marry a Chinese?

    smart Chinese girls keep their virginity until marriage (or at least betrothal). Other races of women could learn a lesson.

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  • @Lot
    The reason Mark would make a good candidate is similar to Trump:

    (1) Outsider, not a professional politician

    (2) Billionaire who can self fund (but MZ is much richer, and also more liquid, than DJT)

    (3) Can tailor his positions and issues to whatever opening the year provides, unlike most politicians who have to adopt positions based on fundraising, winning lower level elections, keeping in the good graces of top lobbyists and party leaders, etc.

    Trump's 2016 positions on immigration were not at all radical, but right in the middle of the actual GOP electorate, and closer to the political center than Hillary's. But EVERY SINGLE ONE of the 17 other GOP candidates were to the left on immigration of the median GOP voter and median GOP congressman. The opening Trump saw was huge, but taking it required someone who did not need to stay in the good graces of Paul Ryan, the WSJ, and the Koch Bros.

    Same thing for Zuck in 2020. He can take the popular parts of the Dem platform, while jettisoning the unpopular parts like late term abortion, open borders extremism, and all the BLM stuff.

    Nope, I’ve already had 8 years of a political cipher whose paradigm is to surround himself with harpies.

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  • @carol
    I had a favorite cousin named Augusta. Which sadly became Gussie.

    She was a top student, got an elite education. Last I heard she was teaching esl classes.

    I guess she wasn’t much of a favorite if you’re saying “last I heard she was…”

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  • @carol
    I had a favorite cousin named Augusta. Which sadly became Gussie.

    She was a top student, got an elite education. Last I heard she was teaching esl classes.

    Like Gussie Finknottle? I think that was her name. Wodehouse rules.

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    Except that was a he (Augustus): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gussie_Fink-Nottle
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  • From the Portland [Oregon] Mercury: As I hope you expect, iSteve has already been covering the Racist Sandwich beat. It's cool when, instead of saying they live in Columbus, journalists say they are "based in Columbus." It would be cooler, however, if they said they were based out of Columbus, like hitmen in an Elmore...
  • @Liberal hypocrisy
    Sheriff Arpaio is a true patriot. John McCain the POS had the gall to call Trump "lawless" for pardoning him, while saying nothing about all the sanctuary city mayors and governors who lawlessly protect criminal aliens from deportation. Ann Coulter was right to call McCain, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell the 3 gigolos of the GOP, all 3 are in office thanks to their wives' wealth and connections, and all 3 are leading the pack of RINOs who are selling out the country along with the Dems. All 3 need to be primary out in the next election, along with Lindsay Graham.

    Good comment, L.H. I must have missed that Ann Coulter remark, which is weird, as I read all her stuff now. She’s come to be a real conservative/constitutionalist, albeit slowly over 10 years or so.

    As for those 3 gigolo US Senators, lazy people can’t be bothered to get out of their routines once every 6 years to make this primary vote. The shame of it is that if just the real conservatives came out to give support to, and vote for, a primary challenger, they’d have a lot of pull because the normal establishment gigolos won’t get a lot of people coming out either.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @Chrisnonymous
    He was trying to avoid naming her after a golf course.

    It’s just a cheap trans-aware gesture. The girl will call herself Augusta and everybody knows it. Unisex baby names are probably the fashion now. Giving girls ‘girly’ names will soon be cause for social disapproval in politically correct circles.

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    Names going from boy names to girl names is a thing in English (and other languages for all I know). Baby name books sometimes discuss this phenomenon. For example, Archie Bunker's first name is about the most masculine name that could be imagined. It means manly. It comes from Charlemagne. Etc.
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  • From the New York Times: Okay ... "cried among the farmland." ... Possible alternatives: "cried among the crops." "sobbed among the succotash." "blubbered all over the beets." "sniveled about the terrain." "eyeless in Gaza." It is, of course, unfair to judge an entire county with a population of almost 200,000 on the behavior of one...
  • Harris, way over rated.

    Can’t stand her tinny voice. Sounds like amateur country music to me.

    Can no one remember Joni Mitchell?

    I disliked her music when it first came out, but it has grown on me. Same thing with early Elton John. Both very talented.

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  • From TechCrunch: As I mentioned last week, the founder of Facebook is obsessed with Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire:
  • @Steve Sailer
    Or maybe she's named after the sedan?

    I don’t know why y’all are so certain the girls were named by Daddy. Aren’t any of you married? Don’t you have children? Didn’t your lovely wife look at you that way until you agreed her choice of name was perfect? Am I the only guy here who did that , four times?

    He may be nuts, but for certain the wife is more crazy. And ambitious.

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  • I think August could be quite a pretty name, especially if she grows up to be hot. Like April, May, June, Julia, but a bit later in the year.

    Augustina might have been an even more feminine alternate choice, then at least you have Tina for a short form. Gussie as a diminutive is a bit reminiscent of ‘gusset’, which you might not want.

    If I had another daughter, I would give her the classical Roman name Tipitina.

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  • @Anonymous
    Zuck took Latin and Greek in high school.

    A classical education isn’t taking Latin and Greek in high school.

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  • @Anonymous
    "August" actually does sound more feminine in standard American English than "Augusta" does, despite "Augusta" being a feminine form. Plus the association of "Augusta" with the golf course, which is a masculine association.

    I’m with syonredux here. Can you say why you think “August” is more feminine than “Augusta?”

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  • @Cwhatfuture
    Zuckerberg has a minimum of 40 IQ points on Kamla Harris and he has a vision: a shiny America where technology solves all problems

    That may be nonsense but what is the vision of the GOP? An increasingly shabby America where lowering the marginal tax rate for the top 1% solves all problems?

    This guy went head to head with Google while in his 20s and he beat them. Kamla Harris or the GOP won't scare him.

    Of course his sister may be trying to sabotage all that by going full SJW but I suspect he will rein her in as he gets closer to announcing

    IQ isn’t everything. This is politics not a quiz show. People don’t like being spoken down to. If he doesn’t know how to communicate with people. If he can’t connect with the white working class or blacks he’s not going anywhere. He won’t even win the Dem primary.

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    Agree.

    That is why I think you will see more attempts at normalizing - like Zuckerberg's recent declaration at his Harvard Commencement speech that he prays at times of great challenge, his claim that he hunts etc., his sister's resentful wackiness notwithstanding.

    I don't use Facebook but what this guy did is impressive. He undoubtedly understands the problem you note and is working on it.
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  • @Steve Sailer
    Giving a girl a girl's name is sexist, dontchaknow?

    Naming her after a Chilean dictator, in contrast, is stereotype shattering.

    Pokémon points if you do … Pokémon points if you don’t.

    Virtue signaling offers such grand possibilities. That’s why the Left loves it. Like so much else in their arsenal of “feelz good” adolescent seditives, you can be praised for “doing your own thing”, regardless of what it is … like claiming you are changing your gender, or not; or, bragging about having sought refuge in “safe spaces” to ward off evil White spirits, or not.

    The virtue is in advertising your willingness to act … on anything: Nietzsche’s Will to Power, albeit almost always about the most trivial of things. It’s the shallow world of Political Correctness with True Believers feeling a collective empowerment in a world of ever-changing amulets and talismans.

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  • @Richard of Melbourne
    Fair enough: I can't claim priority for using "Sugar Hill" for Mr Zuckerberg.

    But unless I'm mistaken, no-one has previously suggested his family be known as "The Sugar Hill Gang" - has he?

    The Sugar Hill Gang is a good one.

    I was trying to do something with Neil Young’s “Sugar Mountain” song a few years ago, when I discovered Donna Z’s “Sugar Mountain” desert baking blog.

    But Sugar Hill Gang is better.

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  • @carol
    I had a favorite cousin named Augusta. Which sadly became Gussie.

    She was a top student, got an elite education. Last I heard she was teaching esl classes.

    The fact that you are a girl named Carol seems relevant.

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  • @bored identity




    "Nobody has yet pointed out that Zuckerberg translates as 'sugar hill'. "

     

    Not so fast, Richard...

    Nobody was expecting bored identity's inquisition:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/donna-zuckerbergs-classics-mag-demands-the-dissembling-of-this-dangerously-misguided-dream-of-white-europe/#comment-1982772


    Actually, in hindsight, bored identity wished he had already apologized to The Emperor and his First Sister Donna Octavia Minor Saccharina;

    Now, would you be so kind to recall that Blue Thunder from making rounds above bored identity's humble dwelling?

    Fair enough: I can’t claim priority for using “Sugar Hill” for Mr Zuckerberg.

    But unless I’m mistaken, no-one has previously suggested his family be known as “The Sugar Hill Gang” – has he?

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    The Sugar Hill Gang is a good one.

    I was trying to do something with Neil Young's "Sugar Mountain" song a few years ago, when I discovered Donna Z's "Sugar Mountain" desert baking blog.

    But Sugar Hill Gang is better.

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  • @Thea
    That Japanese psychologist who got fired for telling the truth of sexual appeal of various races said that couples where the wife is more attractive than the husband have more daughters.

    Is a question like “Who’s uglier: Zuck or Mrs Zuck?” more unpleasant than it is uninteresting or more uninteresting than it is unpleasant?

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  • @Mr. Anon
    I remember thinking Mel Brooks was funny. When I was about ten years old. Then I grew up. With the possible exception of The Producers and The Twelve Chairs (his first two), his movies are excruciatingly unfunny and bad.

    Smart ten-year-old boys still like his movies.

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  • @International Jew
    What, Zuck name his kid for the kind of cheap car one of his Indian software engineers would drive? Camry, anyone? Accord?

    And, considering his classical education, he would have named her Augusta, not August, if he had the emperor in mind.

    It reminds me of a black comedian back in the 80s who riffed on names black people used to give their kids: just name them after the latest Toyota.

    And yes, I’ve met TWO guys named Tercel!

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  • @Thea
    That Japanese psychologist who got fired for telling the truth of sexual appeal of various races said that couples where the wife is more attractive than the husband have more daughters.

    Ok, but neither Priscilla nor Mark Cuckerberg are attractive.

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  • @dearieme
    Girls used to be called Augusta. And come to that, Julia. And Claudia. Maybe it's time for a revival of classical and cod-classical names. Tiberia? Too close to Siberia?

    Or months. April, May and June used to be used. How about using names of months from the French Revolution? Thermidor: who could resist calling a little pink baby girl Thermidor?

    How about Trixie ?

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