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    To pin the arrival of Europeans on the year 1652 is not entirely correct. The history of European settlement of South Africa dates back further. For example, Bartolomeu Dias anchored his ship in Mossel Bay 164 years earlier, on 3 February 1488. The local Khoi people reportedly pelted Dias’s ships with stones. Dias planted a padrao (large stone cross) in Kwaaihoek (present day Eastern Cape) on March 12th, 1488, which marked the eastern most point of Portuguese exploration of that voyage.
    Thereafter, Portuguese sailors were present at the Cape and utilised Robben island regularly. Vasco da Gama also visited the Cape in 1497. He landed further up the east coast an initiated first contact between Europeans and Bantu speakers. The mass of Africans lived further north. Bantu people are originated in modern-day Cameroon and Nigeria and migrated southward.
    Europeans continued to expand their exploration of South Africa. Table Mountain was given its name in 1503 by Antonio de Saldanha, a Portuguese admiral and explorer.

    About 150 years later, Johan Anthoniszoon “Jan” van Riebeeck arrived in 1652 again (for the second, or 3rd etc time). There already was a Dutch settlement in Cape Town, which was used as a refreshment station for passing ships.

    Before van Riebeeck arrived in 1652, the figure of ships that called at the Cape was 1071.
    This represented a rise from around 8 ships a year in the last decade of the 1500s to around 30 in a year with layovers of 2 days to 8 days by the time Van Riebeeck arrived. So hey, wait a minute. Table Bay was quite a busy port for at least four decades before van Riebeeck arrived.

    There are accounts of 20 shipwrecks full of white castaways that occurred from 1500 along the eastern coast of South Africa. Having no means of returning home, these castaways decided to settle on the coast.
    The Cape of Good Hope has been famous for more than 500 years as the ‘graveyard of ships’. Sea captains of yore also talked about another danger spot: the ‘mountains of water’ off the Wild Coast of the Eastern Cape.
    Indeed, the 3000km South African coastline has claimed perhaps 3000 vessels over the centuries, with known records dating back to the 1500s and the heyday of Portuguese navigation and conquest by sail. That’s about 1 for every kilometre of coastline.

    In fact, the Dutch colony in South Africa began in March 1647, with the shipwreck of the Dutch ship, Nieuwe Haarlem. The shipwreck victims built a small fort named “Sand Fort of the Cape of Good Hope”. About 62 men stayed nearly one year at the Cape. They guarded the supplies from the shipwreck and planted vegetables to sustain themselves. During this time, various ships stopped over in Cape Town, and recieved supplies from the Dutch shipwreck survivors, but none of the ships were homebound to the Netherlands and therefore the Dutch shipwreck survivors remained in Cape Town. Finally, after months, the arrival of a Netherlands-bound fleet of 12 ships under command of Wollebrandt Geleynsz de Jongh collected the survivors. On one of these ships was Jan van Riebeeck, who was on his way from Asia to Amsterdam. The shipped stayed in the harbour for 18 days.

    Few people know the history of Jan van Riebeeck prior to 1652. Prior to setteling in Cape Town, Jan first went to Japan, and was given charge of the company trading station in Tongkin (Vietnam). He traded in cinnamon in his own time in the evenings. He was recalled when it was discovered that he was trading for his own account. It is also mentioned that in 1650 he said that he wanted to trade fur from wild animals in South Africa with Japan. He spent 18 days in Cape Town on his way back to Amsterdam. In 1649 he got married in Schiedam, the Netherlands, whereafter he went to Greenland and then the West-Indies. It was during this time that Jan was requested to establish the Dutch colony in Cape Town, based on a report that was submitted to the Lords XVII by Leendert Jansz and Mathys Proot in 1649. They were two survivors of the shipwreck who together with others, built a temporary fort in Cape Town and planted vegetables in the fertile soil, which was used to resupply passing ships.

    Jan returned to Cape Town to improve the existing settlement and to establish a permanent colony. They departed from the Netherlands on 24 December 1651 with 220 people on 5 ships, and arrived in Cape Town on 6 April 1652 with 90 people (82 men and 8 woman). 130 people died on the way and were burried at sea. Thereafter 19 more people died during the first winter in Cape Town.

    Therefore, Jan van Riebeeck may have been the first governor of the Cape, and resonsible for establishing the first formal European settlement in South Africa, but he and the group of people traveling with him in 1652 were not the first Europeans to live in South Africa.

    Europeans had visited and some lived in South Africa since 1488.

    There were various small settlements, and as mentioned, an established colony in Cape Town in 1647. More Europeans besides the Dutch; i.e the French Huguenots, arrived in 1688. The Cape remained under Dutch rule until 1695 and again from 1803 (Treaty of Amiens) to 1806. In between, in 1795, England took control over the colony, since the Netherlands was invaded by France. The Cape was returned to the Dutch in 1802, but the English came back and defeated the Dutch in tbe battle of Blaauwberg in 1806. This period saw major developments and can be said to be the start of Cape Town as a city. The Cape was permanently taken from the Dutch in 1814 when the war between England and France ended with a treaty and pieces if real estate were exchanged. The Dutch government was too impoverished and depleted to argue, and agreed with the condition that they be allowed to continue to use the Cape for repairs and refreshments. The Great Trek of the Boers began a few years later, in 1836. As you state, diamonds and gold were discovered only in 1870′s and 1880′s, AFTER the Great Trek started. The libertarian minded Boers did not trek due to discovery of diamonds or gold, but to reclaim their freedom.

    The Boers (“Trek Boere” – distinct from “Afrikaners” who remained under Dutch and British rule) already moved inland away from Cape Town a 146 years earlier, between 1690 and 1699, to get away from the authoritarian rule of the Dutch East India Company telling farmers what to grow for what price, monopolising trade etc.

    Important to note is that the VOC had no desire for either conquest or administration of a territory in South Africa. Their interest was to insure provision of vital supplies to their shipping fleets. Therefore, to claim that the Dutch (the Boere and Afrikaners) were settlers that came to conquer land in South Africa is factually wrong. They had an interest in peaceful bartering with the local Khoikhoi people (the “Strandlopers” / Khoi San). The Castle in Capetown was only completed in 1679. That is 27 years after Jan van Riebeeck arrived, and it was years after he had left Cape Town (in May 1662 when Zacharias Wagenaar was appointed Governor of the Cape). There was no intention of conquest or aggression if the land or its people. The first Dutch-Khoi war was faught in 1659 due to a dispute over cattle where the settlers did seek refuge in the temporary fort they built. Building of the Castle started in 1666.

    The first encouters with Bantu people were only in the second half of the 18th century, i.e the 1750′s in the Somerset East area. That is 262 years after the first Europeans landed in South Africa, and more than hundred years after Cape Town settlement was established by Europeans. The first conflict encounters between British, Boers, Khoikhoi, San and Xhosas were in 1779 in the Eastern Cape in the region of the Great Fish river. The VOC established the Great Fish River as the eastern frontier border in 1778, less than a year before the first border war.

    The interaction between Europeans were fruitful and peaceful apart from the nine skirmishes on the Eastern frontier and the British-Zulu wars of the 1870′s.

    The Zulu Kingdom was founded 165 years after Jan van Riebeeck established a colony in Cape Town, when Shaka defeated the Ndwandwe in 1817.
    As King Shaka created the militaristic Zulu Kingdom in the territory between the Tugela River and Pongola River, his forces caused a wave of warfare and disruption to sweep to other peoples. This was the prelude of the Mfecane, which spread from there. The movement of peoples caused many tribes to try to dominate those in new territories, leading to widespread warfare; consolidation of other groups, such as the Matabele, the Mfengu and the Makololo; and the creation of states such as the modern Lesotho.
    Mfecane is used primarily to refer to the period when Mzilikazi, a king of the Matabele, dominated the Transvaal. During his reign, roughly from 1826 to 1836, he ordered widespread killings and devastation to remove all opposition. He reorganised the territory to establish the new Ndebele order. The death toll has never been satisfactorily determined, but the whole region became nearly depopulated. Normal estimates for the death toll range from 1 million to 2 million.
    After Shaka’s death, the Zulu Kingdom lasted only for another 50 years before it was conquered by the British.

    The Xhosa are part of the South African Nguni migration which slowly moved south from the region around the Great Lakes, displacing the original Khoisan hunter gatherers of Southern Africa. A self induced catastrophy envoloped the Xhosa in 1857 when they followed prophesying voices (Nonqawuse prophetess) and killed all their cattle (between April 1856 and June 1857) in the belief that two suns will rise and their enemies would be overthrown. Starvation followed.

    It was thereafter that gold was discovered in South Africa.

    I did some further research on this. Interesting findings.

    So we know Table Bay at the Cape was already a Port before 1652. Secondly it was already a trading and layover station.

    The Dutch dominated the numbers of ships doing lay-overs and then England followed with France, Portugal, Denmark also regularly coming to the Cape. Interestingly in the period 1610 to 1620 English ships increased to ten times the number of the previous decade. This strongly indicates why the English considered colonization at this point in time and then later opted to support local development of indigene support infrastructure.

    Just over the period 1590 until 1700 there were 2632 ships that had to call at the Cape. Before van Riebeeck arrived in 1652, the figure of ships that called at the Cape was 1071.

    Over the full span of the1600s over 1770 Dutch ships alone had called at the Cape.

    Therefore, the Dutch colony in South Africa began well before March 1647, when the Dutch ship, Nieuwe Haarlem, shipwrecked on Woodstock beach in Table Bay.

    We also know that across the Peninsula there were up to 40,000 indigene inhabitants, mainly Khoena and over the broader Western Cape up to 50,000 more, both Khoena and San, making up around 16 Khoena clan groupings and at least five San or /Xam groupings of different strengths, and the they were very rich in livestock.

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  • Along with ‘Whiteness Studies’ and ‘Black Lives Matter,’ the concept of ‘decolonization’ is currently rampant in Western institutions of higher education. In the most recent example, academics at England’s University of Cambridge are considering how to implement a call from a small group of Black and leftist undergraduates to “decolonize” its English literature syllabus by...
  • @wayfarer
    Noel Ignatiev is a white man, espousing the genocide of white men.

    On the darker side, we're talking textbook case for a delusional identity crisis.

    On the lighter side, we're talking great material for a stand-up comic routine.

    Noel Ignatiev is not White in the least. He is a White-hating, anti-White racist, second-generation Ashkenazi Russian Jew.

    Jews are not White. Ashkenazis – eastern European Jews – are DNA-descended from an aggressive, warlike Turkic tribe once known as Khazars, who took on Jewish identity in the 7th century. See Arthur Koestler’s seminal work The Thirteenth Tribe

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  • @Anon
    Thanks for publishing this thoughtful, well-written, and courageous essay. I have never heard of Mr Joyce before, but will seek out his work in the future. Kudos to Mr Unz and his Review.

    Dr Joyce has been writing, among others, for the Occidental Observer website for many years. You can find a large set of his previous essays – every one of them, like this one, meticulously researched, impeccably reasoned and beautifully written – included in the Author Archive list which is always linked on the front page of that site.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net

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  • @Svigor
    What did Jews develop, outside of Western Civilization?

    The Torah. Anything else?

    Without Western civilization, this is the highest lifestyle Jews would have achieved.

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  • @German_reader

    Well, which arts? And which sciences?
     
    In pretty much every field, e.g. to give you just one example, one of the founders of German palaeography (research in medieval manuscripts) and studies in Medieval Latin was Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Traube_(palaeographer)

    And you could add much more, in humanities, medicine, sciences. It's not that I don't believe criticism of Jews isn't often justified (it certainly is), but to state that Jewish individuals have contributed nothing positive at all to Western civilization isn't tenable imo.
    And you're writing your comment on a website and a commenting system whose creator is Jewish after all.

    In pretty much every field, e.g. to give you just one example, one of the founders of German palaeography (research in medieval manuscripts) and studies in Medieval Latin was Jewish:

    My my,that explains all this propaganda about the evil backward crusader barbarians vs noble kind Mohammedans, the myth of the golden period of Andalus, the so called “Dark ages”. It is better to have command of your own historical research than depend on outsiders, especially outsiders who hate you.

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  • @Svigor
    Without non-white contributions, whites would be somewhere around 2010.

    Vice-versa, non-whites would be somewhere around 1500.

    They wouldn’t be anywhere near the year 1500, unless you’re talking about Asians.

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  • @geokat62

    As for the Judaic tradition — I can only respond that there are numerous references in our western stem to – the judeo-christian belief and practice — neither born of white people. In fact our baeline body of justice ethos is referred to as judeo-christian...

    Our Judeo-christian tradition . . .
     
    The "Judeo-Christian" fraud by Vox Popoli:

    Needless to say, Diasporans like the Littlest Chickenhawk push it every chance they get, because they are shameless liars.

    Tariq [email protected]
    Trump did a speech in Poland and spoke about Western values. Now we all know what "Western" is a code word for, don't we?

    Ben Shapiro‏@benshapir
    Yes, "Judeo-Christian." You know, the civilization that protects your freedoms.

    Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
    "Judeo-Christian" civilization does not exist. There is only Christian civilization, you cowardly fraud. "Judeo-Christian" is anti-semitic.
     
    If you happen doubt my observation that "Judeo-Christian values" is a complete 20th century fraud, have a look at the Google NGram below. There is no such thing as "Judeo-Christianity" or "Judeo-Christian civilization" or "Judeo-Christian values". You can make a far better case for Islamo-Christian civilization despite the exaggerations that surround the medieval paradise of al-Andalus. Judeo-Christianity does not exist. It never existed. It does not "bless Israel" and it is nothing more than post-Holocaust propaganda directed against Americans. And you will find absolutely ZERO historical references to it in the Western civilization known as Christendom.

    Want to see what decades of relentless propaganda looks like? Look at the graph of "Christendom" vs "Judeo-Christian" since 1940. Or, better yet, "Christian civilization" vs "Judeo-Christian civilization" and "Muslim civilization".

    https://voxday.blogspot.ca/2017/07/the-judeo-christian-fraud.html
     

    For people who live in the US there is according to;

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/10/judeochristian_values.html

    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/john-kasich-judeo-christian-agency-216001

    https://spectator.org/24258_washington-post-judeo-christian-ethic-problem-be-solved/

    https://www.weaselzippers.us/128433-paul-ryan-rips-obama-for-compromising-our-judeo-christian-values/

    http://infospaze.com/Judeo-Christian_ethics

    http://www.10news.com/news/national/trump-we-are-stopping-cold-the-attacks-on-judeo-christian-values-

    In short judeo christian values Simply refers to a shared traditional ethos and practices. And while I would not contend that they have been under assault and some dismantle, I think it i safe to say the ideas are intertwined in our polity. Now suppose one wanted to avoid the whole jewish quetion, fine. You just want to cut out anything to with Jews, one is still left with christian interlaced traditions/values/ethos

    If you want to embrace christian-muslim traditions or ethos, fine with me. However in bot cases, one is left with a vast body or social practices that are not uniquely derived from being white. For Muslims consider all incorporate judeo-christian history with all due vigor as part of their faith.

    I think I have run my course on this matter. As the introduction of Muslim ethos has made the ability to embrace whiteness as a stand alone source of culture more difficult 0 extremely more difficult.

    But I have appreciated the responses.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    All cultural constructs are manufactured. Making that observation does not help me acknowledge what is uniquely white as to culture.

    Our Judeo-christian tradition . . .

    As for the Judaic tradition — I can only respond that there are numerous references in our western stem to – the judeo-christian belief and practice — neither born of white people. In fact our baeline body of justice ethos is referred to as judeo-christian…

    Our Judeo-christian tradition . . .

    The “Judeo-Christian” fraud by Vox Popoli:

    Needless to say, Diasporans like the Littlest Chickenhawk push it every chance they get, because they are shameless liars.

    Tariq [email protected]
    Trump did a speech in Poland and spoke about Western values. Now we all know what “Western” is a code word for, don’t we?

    Ben Shapiro‏@benshapir
    Yes, “Judeo-Christian.” You know, the civilization that protects your freedoms.

    Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
    “Judeo-Christian” civilization does not exist. There is only Christian civilization, you cowardly fraud. “Judeo-Christian” is anti-semitic.

    If you happen doubt my observation that “Judeo-Christian values” is a complete 20th century fraud, have a look at the Google NGram below. There is no such thing as “Judeo-Christianity” or “Judeo-Christian civilization” or “Judeo-Christian values”. You can make a far better case for Islamo-Christian civilization despite the exaggerations that surround the medieval paradise of al-Andalus. Judeo-Christianity does not exist. It never existed. It does not “bless Israel” and it is nothing more than post-Holocaust propaganda directed against Americans. And you will find absolutely ZERO historical references to it in the Western civilization known as Christendom.

    Want to see what decades of relentless propaganda looks like? Look at the graph of “Christendom” vs “Judeo-Christian” since 1940. Or, better yet, “Christian civilization” vs “Judeo-Christian civilization” and “Muslim civilization”.

    https://voxday.blogspot.ca/2017/07/the-judeo-christian-fraud.html

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    For people who live in the US there is according to;

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/10/judeochristian_values.html

    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/john-kasich-judeo-christian-agency-216001

    https://spectator.org/24258_washington-post-judeo-christian-ethic-problem-be-solved/

    https://www.weaselzippers.us/128433-paul-ryan-rips-obama-for-compromising-our-judeo-christian-values/

    http://infospaze.com/Judeo-Christian_ethics

    http://www.10news.com/news/national/trump-we-are-stopping-cold-the-attacks-on-judeo-christian-values-

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32rzcy


    In short judeo christian values Simply refers to a shared traditional ethos and practices. And while I would not contend that they have been under assault and some dismantle, I think it i safe to say the ideas are intertwined in our polity. Now suppose one wanted to avoid the whole jewish quetion, fine. You just want to cut out anything to with Jews, one is still left with christian interlaced traditions/values/ethos

    If you want to embrace christian-muslim traditions or ethos, fine with me. However in bot cases, one is left with a vast body or social practices that are not uniquely derived from being white. For Muslims consider all incorporate judeo-christian history with all due vigor as part of their faith.

    I think I have run my course on this matter. As the introduction of Muslim ethos has made the ability to embrace whiteness as a stand alone source of culture more difficult 0 extremely more difficult.

    But I have appreciated the responses.
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  • @Svigor
    What did Jews develop, outside of Western Civilization?

    The Torah. Anything else?

    All cultural constructs are manufactured. Making that observation does not help me acknowledge what is uniquely white as to culture.

    Our Judeo-christian tradition . . .

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    As for the Judaic tradition — I can only respond that there are numerous references in our western stem to – the judeo-christian belief and practice — neither born of white people. In fact our baeline body of justice ethos is referred to as judeo-christian...

    Our Judeo-christian tradition . . .
     
    The "Judeo-Christian" fraud by Vox Popoli:

    Needless to say, Diasporans like the Littlest Chickenhawk push it every chance they get, because they are shameless liars.

    Tariq Nasheed[email protected]
    Trump did a speech in Poland and spoke about Western values. Now we all know what "Western" is a code word for, don't we?

    Ben Shapiro‏@benshapir
    Yes, "Judeo-Christian." You know, the civilization that protects your freedoms.

    Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
    "Judeo-Christian" civilization does not exist. There is only Christian civilization, you cowardly fraud. "Judeo-Christian" is anti-semitic.
     
    If you happen doubt my observation that "Judeo-Christian values" is a complete 20th century fraud, have a look at the Google NGram below. There is no such thing as "Judeo-Christianity" or "Judeo-Christian civilization" or "Judeo-Christian values". You can make a far better case for Islamo-Christian civilization despite the exaggerations that surround the medieval paradise of al-Andalus. Judeo-Christianity does not exist. It never existed. It does not "bless Israel" and it is nothing more than post-Holocaust propaganda directed against Americans. And you will find absolutely ZERO historical references to it in the Western civilization known as Christendom.

    Want to see what decades of relentless propaganda looks like? Look at the graph of "Christendom" vs "Judeo-Christian" since 1940. Or, better yet, "Christian civilization" vs "Judeo-Christian civilization" and "Muslim civilization".

    https://voxday.blogspot.ca/2017/07/the-judeo-christian-fraud.html
     
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  • @Svigor
    Without non-white contributions, whites would be somewhere around 2010.

    Vice-versa, non-whites would be somewhere around 1500.

    I have no doubt that supporting this advance would be ground breaking. A model minus early rocketry, water engineering, agriculture, writing.

    That would be an interesting and no doubt dynamic model to develop.

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  • @Svigor

    I think it would be helpful if we could decipher exactly what only white developed minus any input from any other people of nonwhites. Then maybe we could pinpoint what constitutes white culture. In just a brief scan and remembering my own education in epistemological training, non-whites seem to have interfered or contributed to our larger body of knowledge.

    Several years ago, I visited several plantations, and learned that much of the structure and building methods were from slaves — I never would have thought — prefab construction, ventilation systems to air cool buildings and homes.

    I think I can have an idea of western schools of thought but even then nonwhites bring understanding to the that as well.
     
    I think it would be helpful if we could decipher exactly what only humans developed, minus any input from any other species (mules, horses, dogs, etc.). Then maybe we could pinpoint what constitutes human culture. In just a brief scan and remembering of my own education in epistemological training, non-humans seem to have interfered or contributed to our larger body of knowledge.

    Several years ago, I visited Asia, and learned that nothing was built, prior to the modernity of the white man, without input from other species (horses, mules, donkeys, etc.).

    There really is no human culture.

    Also, Jews don't exist. Jewry and Jewishness are social constructs.

    I think you have stumbled on the dilemma of sorts. But culture and skin color are two very different constructs. So if in fact, skin color is unique to some higher existence, then there i something unique about whiteness that is can only attributed uniquely to whiteness.

    Yellow peoples don’t have a singular culture. Blacks have no singular culture. But certainly if cultural purity is the case, they in the US could claim a culture uniquely US having been divorced from heir previous cultural underpinnings via slavery for some 600 hundred years and may have created something unique because of internal and external separation. Browns and reds have no singular culture, but the claim is made here of white culture.

    I am nor being facetious — I would like to know what that culture is.

    As for that unique quality that distinguishes humans from animals — one might single out the written word. But the deeper flaw in your suggestion is that we are species jumping. It might be a good idea to stay with one species at a time.

    As for your commentary about Asia — I have never heard the suggestion – it sounds a tad strange, as language was once thought to have been born in Asia — Mesopotamia. But we are not searching out those cultural characteristics of yellow, greens, blue, blacks, red, browns, but whites.

    That is the issue. If your response is that humans have intermingled to such a extent that whites are not unique — ok, but I think others would take issue.

    As for the Judaic tradition — I can only respond that there are numerous references in our western stem to – the judeo-christian belief and practice — neither born of white people. In fact our baeline body of justice ethos is referred to as judeo-christian.

    Humans uniquely develop written language. And there is sparse evidence that they obtained the idea from watching dogs or ape scratch into the earth.

    Ultimately, they are not white either. so I remain lost s to what white culture looks like. It was just a thought. My own brand of gobble de gook, I suppose. Interesting response.

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  • What did Jews develop, outside of Western Civilization?

    The Torah. Anything else?

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    All cultural constructs are manufactured. Making that observation does not help me acknowledge what is uniquely white as to culture.

    Our Judeo-christian tradition . . .
    , @Malla
    Without Western civilization, this is the highest lifestyle Jews would have achieved.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRpioEES9BQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7u5n26yXdI
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  • Without non-white contributions, whites would be somewhere around 2010.

    Vice-versa, non-whites would be somewhere around 1500.

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    I have no doubt that supporting this advance would be ground breaking. A model minus early rocketry, water engineering, agriculture, writing.


    That would be an interesting and no doubt dynamic model to develop.

    , @Anon
    They wouldn't be anywhere near the year 1500, unless you're talking about Asians.
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  • I think it would be helpful if we could decipher exactly what only white developed minus any input from any other people of nonwhites. Then maybe we could pinpoint what constitutes white culture. In just a brief scan and remembering my own education in epistemological training, non-whites seem to have interfered or contributed to our larger body of knowledge.

    Several years ago, I visited several plantations, and learned that much of the structure and building methods were from slaves — I never would have thought — prefab construction, ventilation systems to air cool buildings and homes.

    I think I can have an idea of western schools of thought but even then nonwhites bring understanding to the that as well.

    I think it would be helpful if we could decipher exactly what only humans developed, minus any input from any other species (mules, horses, dogs, etc.). Then maybe we could pinpoint what constitutes human culture. In just a brief scan and remembering of my own education in epistemological training, non-humans seem to have interfered or contributed to our larger body of knowledge.

    Several years ago, I visited Asia, and learned that nothing was built, prior to the modernity of the white man, without input from other species (horses, mules, donkeys, etc.).

    There really is no human culture.

    Also, Jews don’t exist. Jewry and Jewishness are social constructs.

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    I think you have stumbled on the dilemma of sorts. But culture and skin color are two very different constructs. So if in fact, skin color is unique to some higher existence, then there i something unique about whiteness that is can only attributed uniquely to whiteness.

    Yellow peoples don't have a singular culture. Blacks have no singular culture. But certainly if cultural purity is the case, they in the US could claim a culture uniquely US having been divorced from heir previous cultural underpinnings via slavery for some 600 hundred years and may have created something unique because of internal and external separation. Browns and reds have no singular culture, but the claim is made here of white culture.

    I am nor being facetious -- I would like to know what that culture is.

    As for that unique quality that distinguishes humans from animals -- one might single out the written word. But the deeper flaw in your suggestion is that we are species jumping. It might be a good idea to stay with one species at a time.

    As for your commentary about Asia --- I have never heard the suggestion - it sounds a tad strange, as language was once thought to have been born in Asia -- Mesopotamia. But we are not searching out those cultural characteristics of yellow, greens, blue, blacks, red, browns, but whites.

    That is the issue. If your response is that humans have intermingled to such a extent that whites are not unique -- ok, but I think others would take issue.

    As for the Judaic tradition --- I can only respond that there are numerous references in our western stem to - the judeo-christian belief and practice -- neither born of white people. In fact our baeline body of justice ethos is referred to as judeo-christian.

    Humans uniquely develop written language. And there is sparse evidence that they obtained the idea from watching dogs or ape scratch into the earth.

    Ultimately, they are not white either. so I remain lost s to what white culture looks like. It was just a thought. My own brand of gobble de gook, I suppose. Interesting response.
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  • I am sure that you would be the first to tell me that there has never been a successful socialist regime. What I can tell you though is that you probably have no idea what socialism means. Whether people that call themselves socialists are greedy or not is irrelevant anyway – the issue is what the system encourages – capitalism encourages greed, greedy people thrive. in socialism greedy people would not thrive.

    It seems to mean failure, with “means for ‘socialists’ to foment revolution, with themselves as the beneficiaries” as the second definition.

    As for what socialism “means” to this fellow, that is the third definition: “gobbedlygook by which socialists pursue definitions 1 and 2.”

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  • I just want to be clear how much of the knowledge contained in the below can be left out so that whites can claim unique knowledge by which to build a system only whites can developed without ay build or pollution from other people whose skin is not white.

    http://www.scaruffi.com/know/history.html

    http://dlib.nyu.edu/awdl/isaw/ancient-jewish-sciences/

    http://historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistoriesResponsive.asp?historyid=ab42

    http://www.all-art.org/contents.html

    I think it would be helpful if we could decipher exactly what only white developed minus any input from any other people of nonwhites. Then maybe we could pinpoint what constitutes white culture. In just a brief scan and remembering my own education in epistemological training, non-whites seem to have interfered or contributed to our larger body of knowledge.

    Several years ago, I visited several plantations, and learned that much of the structure and building methods were from slaves — I never would have thought — prefab construction, ventilation systems to air cool buildings and homes.

    I think I can have an idea of western schools of thought but even then nonwhites bring understanding to the that as well.

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  • @Sollipsist
    A good place to start might be the entire curriculum of any British or American educational institution before ideological deconstruction cemented its oppressive occupation of academia (pre-1970s or thereabouts?).

    Or you could just read Barzun's Dawn to Decadence, although it's obviously not big on optimism for said culture.

    So if is understand you white culture begin with the British and US educational system educational system.

    Does that mean I leave out the number zero, or our understanding of reason, logos, architecture, , art, and science which includes knowledge from the Egyptians, Carthaginians, Chinese, Jewish, Persians . . .

    I just want to make sure that when I am considering what belongs to white people, we don’t get any polluted knowledge from other cultures. You know concepts such irrigation; toilets, aqueducts, canal, bridges, christian society, etc.

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  • @AnOn
    Disagree.

    Joyce's writing is loaded w/ academic jargon, wordy, too involved w/ abstractions. seems to be aimed at impressing a PhD committee, not with explaining fundamental points to a general audience.

    instead of allowing himself to be drawn into the White vs Black "discourse," Joyce -- who is, I agree, an important contributor to the debate -- would do a better job if he talked about various ethnic cultural groups -- the French are different from Anglos different from Germans different from Persians different from Spaniards, etc. What makes them different?

    regarding "Blacks," and something this Forum is guilty of devolving to, a concentration on "White IQ = HIGH, Black IQ = low," -- that's all meaningless and offensive generalizations, imo -- applying "white" standards to a dense & rich Black/African cultures that we know precious little about.

    Black people span the spectrum, just as 'white' people do; there were Black kings, princes, queens; Black people are from numerous cultural backgrounds spanning a vast geographic area: we should explore them, appreciate their long and significant histories, from their ancient roots.

    This is especially important at a time when USA is competing with China to militarize / colonize Africa.

    I think Whites in general appreciate and explore Black culture and history much more so than Blacks do ours. The IQ differences are real and pretending that they do not exist to make “diversity” work doesn’t help anyone.

    There is no good argument for Whites to give up their territory, their tax dollars and their children’s future to prop up and help non-Whites. No other race would ever contemplate doing the same to help Whites. Try peddling “diversity” in Africa or Asia and see how far you get.

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  • AnOn • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark Green
    Andrew Joyce is not only a gifted writer, but a first-rate intellectual. Few can deflate pc cant with his dexterity. And he's always prepared to blow back exhaust from the ever-present Zionist fog machine. Joyce pops the pc bubble wherever he goes. And he's prolific. The endless and fraudulent sermons that rain down on Americans concerning race, immigration and 'anti-Semitism' are no match for his scholarly rebuttals.

    For years I have savored Joyce's analyses on the The Occidental Observer. It's gratifying to see that he is arousing plenty of attention here on UNZ.

    Disagree.

    Joyce’s writing is loaded w/ academic jargon, wordy, too involved w/ abstractions. seems to be aimed at impressing a PhD committee, not with explaining fundamental points to a general audience.

    instead of allowing himself to be drawn into the White vs Black “discourse,” Joyce — who is, I agree, an important contributor to the debate — would do a better job if he talked about various ethnic cultural groups — the French are different from Anglos different from Germans different from Persians different from Spaniards, etc. What makes them different?

    regarding “Blacks,” and something this Forum is guilty of devolving to, a concentration on “White IQ = HIGH, Black IQ = low,” — that’s all meaningless and offensive generalizations, imo — applying “white” standards to a dense & rich Black/African cultures that we know precious little about.

    Black people span the spectrum, just as ‘white’ people do; there were Black kings, princes, queens; Black people are from numerous cultural backgrounds spanning a vast geographic area: we should explore them, appreciate their long and significant histories, from their ancient roots.

    This is especially important at a time when USA is competing with China to militarize / colonize Africa.

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    I think Whites in general appreciate and explore Black culture and history much more so than Blacks do ours. The IQ differences are real and pretending that they do not exist to make "diversity" work doesn't help anyone.

    There is no good argument for Whites to give up their territory, their tax dollars and their children's future to prop up and help non-Whites. No other race would ever contemplate doing the same to help Whites. Try peddling "diversity" in Africa or Asia and see how far you get.
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  • @German_reader

    Well, which arts? And which sciences?
     
    In pretty much every field, e.g. to give you just one example, one of the founders of German palaeography (research in medieval manuscripts) and studies in Medieval Latin was Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Traube_(palaeographer)

    And you could add much more, in humanities, medicine, sciences. It's not that I don't believe criticism of Jews isn't often justified (it certainly is), but to state that Jewish individuals have contributed nothing positive at all to Western civilization isn't tenable imo.
    And you're writing your comment on a website and a commenting system whose creator is Jewish after all.

    I would have to agree that Jews have made contributions. Whether those contributions have been a net positive after taking in to account the Barbara Spectre’s, Noel Ignatiev’s and Soros’s is another matter.

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  • @wazzally
    "that I know" is the key to your comment - you obviously do not know of any of the peoples that lived lives in harmony with nature and their fellows.

    Because it doesnt happen. They get eaten by their bigger neighbor.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I am just not clear on what constitutes white culture.

    A good place to start might be the entire curriculum of any British or American educational institution before ideological deconstruction cemented its oppressive occupation of academia (pre-1970s or thereabouts?).

    Or you could just read Barzun’s Dawn to Decadence, although it’s obviously not big on optimism for said culture.

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    So if is understand you white culture begin with the British and US educational system educational system.

    Does that mean I leave out the number zero, or our understanding of reason, logos, architecture, , art, and science which includes knowledge from the Egyptians, Carthaginians, Chinese, Jewish, Persians . . .

    I just want to make sure that when I am considering what belongs to white people, we don't get any polluted knowledge from other cultures. You know concepts such irrigation; toilets, aqueducts, canal, bridges, christian society, etc.
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  • @German_reader

    Well, which arts? And which sciences?
     
    In pretty much every field, e.g. to give you just one example, one of the founders of German palaeography (research in medieval manuscripts) and studies in Medieval Latin was Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Traube_(palaeographer)

    And you could add much more, in humanities, medicine, sciences. It's not that I don't believe criticism of Jews isn't often justified (it certainly is), but to state that Jewish individuals have contributed nothing positive at all to Western civilization isn't tenable imo.
    And you're writing your comment on a website and a commenting system whose creator is Jewish after all.

    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia when it comes to any topic that is known to be of special financial & political interests to deluded supremacist Jews.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    Then there are the frauds Einstein & Salk.

    Albert Einstein was a Fraud

    http://coconutrevival.com/?p=5656

    and

    and
    Einstein, plagiarist of the century

    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_einstein.htm

    Salk the shyster

    http://vanguardnewsnetwork.com/v1/2004b/SalkBombshell.htm

    http://naturalsociety.com/vaccine-fraud-the-polio-elimination-by-vaccine-hoax/

    http://whale.to/c/great_salk_vaccine_fiasco.html

    Fraud seems to be a way of life for deluded Jews:

    Deluded supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869.
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

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  • @Corvinus
    "If “capitalism” and colonialism was / is so horrible, then why is it that the former ‘colonialized’ people try their hardest to get into the “capitalist”/ ‘colonial’ countries?"

    Because the capitalists/colonialists invaded the world and invited the world.

    No they didn’t.

    That’s merely a tired, unfounded, college freshman cliche that awkwardly avoided my question.

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  • @jbwilson24
    "it cannot be denied that Jews or people of Jewish descent contributed much to arts and sciences in Europe during the 19th and 20th centuries"

    Well, which arts? And which sciences? Jewish involvement in science was actually pretty middling prior to the 19th century. I'm fuzzy on the early 19th century, but certainly a large contribution in the 20th.

    As for the 'arts', their main contribution in painting has been modern abstract atrocities (e.g., rothko, frankethaler, etc etc). The Dada movement was overtly political, weaponizing art against European culture by making a mockery of it.

    Take the Jewish gallery owners, movie studio owners, theater owners, magazine owners (etc) out of the arts and replace them with Arabs, how many successful jewish abstract artists, actors, playwrights (etc) would there be?

    Well, which arts? And which sciences?

    In pretty much every field, e.g. to give you just one example, one of the founders of German palaeography (research in medieval manuscripts) and studies in Medieval Latin was Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Traube_(palaeographer)

    And you could add much more, in humanities, medicine, sciences. It’s not that I don’t believe criticism of Jews isn’t often justified (it certainly is), but to state that Jewish individuals have contributed nothing positive at all to Western civilization isn’t tenable imo.
    And you’re writing your comment on a website and a commenting system whose creator is Jewish after all.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia when it comes to any topic that is known to be of special financial & political interests to deluded supremacist Jews.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    Then there are the frauds Einstein & Salk.

    Albert Einstein was a Fraud
    http://coconutrevival.com/?p=5656
    and
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMTQFFFeOVs
    and
    Einstein, plagiarist of the century
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_einstein.htm

    Salk the shyster
    http://vanguardnewsnetwork.com/v1/2004b/SalkBombshell.htm

    http://naturalsociety.com/vaccine-fraud-the-polio-elimination-by-vaccine-hoax/

    http://whale.to/c/great_salk_vaccine_fiasco.html

    Fraud seems to be a way of life for deluded Jews:

    Deluded supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869.

    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    , @WhiteWolf
    I would have to agree that Jews have made contributions. Whether those contributions have been a net positive after taking in to account the Barbara Spectre's, Noel Ignatiev's and Soros's is another matter.
    , @Malla

    In pretty much every field, e.g. to give you just one example, one of the founders of German palaeography (research in medieval manuscripts) and studies in Medieval Latin was Jewish:
     
    My my,that explains all this propaganda about the evil backward crusader barbarians vs noble kind Mohammedans, the myth of the golden period of Andalus, the so called "Dark ages". It is better to have command of your own historical research than depend on outsiders, especially outsiders who hate you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QlrpWDW-y8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoqW3bd6FfE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bc5f9_YoFk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTpeJFcDt2M
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  • @Anonymous
    I don't know much about the black man's administration but what if he did a good job? That would encourage the Estonians to be open to the possibility of black politicians in Brussels or even in Tallinn.

    That would encourage the Estonians to be open to the possibility of black politicians in Brussels or even in Tallinn

    I don’t think that would be desirable. But yes, that’s the intent behind such retconning of European history of course.

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  • Great article. One thing that is missing is criticism of the ideology of “diversity”. That poisonous ideology which has become the defacto state religion in most White countries, will eventually destroy any country that continues down the “diversity” path. Either “diversity” gets destroyed or the country gets destroyed. Take your pick.

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  • @lavoisier
    Mr. Joyce. Another interesting and thoughtful essay. But I have to challenge you on one point.

    You write: "I’ve long regarded the Jewish presence in Europe and European societies as a unique form of colonialism (though without the “good things” mentioned by Roberts)."

    Do you not see ANYTHING positive coming from the Jewish presence in European societies?

    While I am deeply troubled by the Jewish question, in all its varied and often hostile manifestations, I think Jewish individuals have made significant contributions to Western Civilization and our culture. Jewish people have been a civilizing influence in many ways and I do not think it is fair to ignore their genuine contributions to European societies.

    I would just prefer that their negative contributions be far more circumscribed and their positive contributions amplified.

    I would just prefer that their negative contributions be far more circumscribed and their positive contributions amplified.

    That’s what you get in the mainstream media and culture 24/7.

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  • “it cannot be denied that Jews or people of Jewish descent contributed much to arts and sciences in Europe during the 19th and 20th centuries”

    Well, which arts? And which sciences? Jewish involvement in science was actually pretty middling prior to the 19th century. I’m fuzzy on the early 19th century, but certainly a large contribution in the 20th.

    As for the ‘arts’, their main contribution in painting has been modern abstract atrocities (e.g., rothko, frankethaler, etc etc). The Dada movement was overtly political, weaponizing art against European culture by making a mockery of it.

    Take the Jewish gallery owners, movie studio owners, theater owners, magazine owners (etc) out of the arts and replace them with Arabs, how many successful jewish abstract artists, actors, playwrights (etc) would there be?

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    • Replies: @German_reader

    Well, which arts? And which sciences?
     
    In pretty much every field, e.g. to give you just one example, one of the founders of German palaeography (research in medieval manuscripts) and studies in Medieval Latin was Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Traube_(palaeographer)

    And you could add much more, in humanities, medicine, sciences. It's not that I don't believe criticism of Jews isn't often justified (it certainly is), but to state that Jewish individuals have contributed nothing positive at all to Western civilization isn't tenable imo.
    And you're writing your comment on a website and a commenting system whose creator is Jewish after all.
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  • @German_reader

    German reader, why do you disagree with suggestion that Baltic children should be taught about the black leader in their history?
     
    No, you're right, it's actually a very good idea...if Estonians learn that an African was involved in the oppression of their people by Russian imperialism, they might realize blacks aren't always and forever victims and might not become as susceptible to guilt-tripping as Western Europeans have become.
    Similar lessons about "people of color" in European history could perhaps also be introduced in the school systems of other European countries, e.g. in Italy they could maybe focus on Saracen and Ottoman slave raiders or on the behaviour of France's Moroccan troops during WW2.

    I don’t know much about the black man’s administration but what if he did a good job? That would encourage the Estonians to be open to the possibility of black politicians in Brussels or even in Tallinn.

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    That would encourage the Estonians to be open to the possibility of black politicians in Brussels or even in Tallinn
     
    I don't think that would be desirable. But yes, that's the intent behind such retconning of European history of course.
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  • @Wally
    If "capitalism" and colonialism was / is so horrible, then why is it that the former 'colonialized' people try their hardest to get into the "capitalist"/ 'colonial' countries?

    “If “capitalism” and colonialism was / is so horrible, then why is it that the former ‘colonialized’ people try their hardest to get into the “capitalist”/ ‘colonial’ countries?”

    Because the capitalists/colonialists invaded the world and invited the world.

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    No they didn't.

    That's merely a tired, unfounded, college freshman cliche that awkwardly avoided my question.

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  • @anonymous
    German reader, why do you disagree with suggestion that Baltic children should be taught about the black leader in their history?

    German reader, why do you disagree with suggestion that Baltic children should be taught about the black leader in their history?

    No, you’re right, it’s actually a very good idea…if Estonians learn that an African was involved in the oppression of their people by Russian imperialism, they might realize blacks aren’t always and forever victims and might not become as susceptible to guilt-tripping as Western Europeans have become.
    Similar lessons about “people of color” in European history could perhaps also be introduced in the school systems of other European countries, e.g. in Italy they could maybe focus on Saracen and Ottoman slave raiders or on the behaviour of France’s Moroccan troops during WW2.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I don't know much about the black man's administration but what if he did a good job? That would encourage the Estonians to be open to the possibility of black politicians in Brussels or even in Tallinn.
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  • Our struggle against invaders, both old and new, should be based on the obvious truth that it is quite simply in our interests to defend the homogenous nature of our territory as a means of promoting a safe and successful future for our children. This is where our ‘moral’ code should begin and end.

    While this truth might be obvious to some, there are many who are still drinking the Kosher Kool-Aid that reassures The Dumb Goyim that Diversity Is Our Strength.

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  • German reader, why do you disagree with suggestion that Baltic children should be taught about the black leader in their history?

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    German reader, why do you disagree with suggestion that Baltic children should be taught about the black leader in their history?
     
    No, you're right, it's actually a very good idea...if Estonians learn that an African was involved in the oppression of their people by Russian imperialism, they might realize blacks aren't always and forever victims and might not become as susceptible to guilt-tripping as Western Europeans have become.
    Similar lessons about "people of color" in European history could perhaps also be introduced in the school systems of other European countries, e.g. in Italy they could maybe focus on Saracen and Ottoman slave raiders or on the behaviour of France's Moroccan troops during WW2.
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  • @lavoisier
    Mr. Joyce. Another interesting and thoughtful essay. But I have to challenge you on one point.

    You write: "I’ve long regarded the Jewish presence in Europe and European societies as a unique form of colonialism (though without the “good things” mentioned by Roberts)."

    Do you not see ANYTHING positive coming from the Jewish presence in European societies?

    While I am deeply troubled by the Jewish question, in all its varied and often hostile manifestations, I think Jewish individuals have made significant contributions to Western Civilization and our culture. Jewish people have been a civilizing influence in many ways and I do not think it is fair to ignore their genuine contributions to European societies.

    I would just prefer that their negative contributions be far more circumscribed and their positive contributions amplified.

    I agree, it cannot be denied that Jews or people of Jewish descent contributed much to arts and sciences in Europe during the 19th and 20th centuries, this antisemitic one-sidedness hurts Mr Joyce’s argument.
    Otherwise very interesting piece, there certainly is a determined attempt by some “historians” to retcon blacks and other “people of color” into European history, and I agree that the purpose of this is to legitimize mass immigration and colonization (similar with the alleged contributions of Islam to European civilization).

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  • @Anon
    All the available evidence would seem to suggest otherwise.

    What evidence?

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  • Mr. Joyce. Another interesting and thoughtful essay. But I have to challenge you on one point.

    You write: “I’ve long regarded the Jewish presence in Europe and European societies as a unique form of colonialism (though without the “good things” mentioned by Roberts).”

    Do you not see ANYTHING positive coming from the Jewish presence in European societies?

    While I am deeply troubled by the Jewish question, in all its varied and often hostile manifestations, I think Jewish individuals have made significant contributions to Western Civilization and our culture. Jewish people have been a civilizing influence in many ways and I do not think it is fair to ignore their genuine contributions to European societies.

    I would just prefer that their negative contributions be far more circumscribed and their positive contributions amplified.

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    • Replies: @German_reader
    I agree, it cannot be denied that Jews or people of Jewish descent contributed much to arts and sciences in Europe during the 19th and 20th centuries, this antisemitic one-sidedness hurts Mr Joyce's argument.
    Otherwise very interesting piece, there certainly is a determined attempt by some "historians" to retcon blacks and other "people of color" into European history, and I agree that the purpose of this is to legitimize mass immigration and colonization (similar with the alleged contributions of Islam to European civilization).
    , @utu
    I would just prefer that their negative contributions be far more circumscribed and their positive contributions amplified.


    That's what you get in the mainstream media and culture 24/7.
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  • @Wally
    Except he wasn't black.

    All the available evidence would seem to suggest otherwise.

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    What evidence?
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  • @wazzally
    I am sure that you would be the first to tell me that there has never been a successful socialist regime. What I can tell you though is that you probably have no idea what socialism means. Whether people that call themselves socialists are greedy or not is irrelevant anyway - the issue is what the system encourages - capitalism encourages greed, greedy people thrive. in socialism greedy people would not thrive.

    So called “socialism” is the very definition of failure.

    If you disagree, then please give us an example of a successful “socialist” country.

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  • @wazzally
    Hi Wally,

    Me again. Have your read about IQ tests? Do you know that nurture plays a huge role in outcomes? Do you know that IQ does not measure innate intelligence? What is your IQ BTW? Maybe not much more than the poor downtrodden blacks and brownies that you mention.

    So you are saying low IQ people know nothing about ‘nurture’.

    I know all about IQ tests. They are the best predictor of outcome there is.
    Just look at a globe.

    My IQ is 152, yours?

    Touche.

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  • @wazzally
    I think your name Wally suits you! If people have very little and the neighbour has lots then why would you not seek more?

    So why do they have so little?

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  • @renfro
    No surprise that Ignatiev is jewish.

    ''Ignatiev, the son of Jewish immigrants from Russia, was raised in Philadelphia.[4] He attended the University of Pennsylvania but dropped out after three years.

    Under the name Noel Ignatin, he joined the Communist Party USA in January 1958, but in August left (along with Theodore W. Allen and Harry Haywood) to help form the Provisional Organizing Committee to Reconstitute the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party (POC). He was expelled from the POC in 1966.[5]

    Later he became involved in the Students for a Democratic Society. When that organization fractured in the late 1960s, Ignatiev became part of the Third-worldist and Maoist New Communist Movement, forming the group Sojourner Truth Organization in 1970. Unlike other groups in the New Communist Movement, the STO and Ignatiev were also heavily influenced by the ideas of Trinidadian writer C. L. R. James.

    For 20 years, Ignatiev worked in a Chicago steel mill in the manufacturing of farming equipment and electrical components. A Marxist activist, he was involved in strikes by the mostly-African-American laborers of the steel mill. In 1984, he was laid off from the steel mill, approximately a year after an arrest on charges of attacking a strike-breaker's car with a paint bomb

    Noel Ignatiev is a white man, espousing the genocide of white men.

    On the darker side, we’re talking textbook case for a delusional identity crisis.

    On the lighter side, we’re talking great material for a stand-up comic routine.

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    Noel Ignatiev is not White in the least. He is a White-hating, anti-White racist, second-generation Ashkenazi Russian Jew.

    Jews are not White. Ashkenazis - eastern European Jews - are DNA-descended from an aggressive, warlike Turkic tribe once known as Khazars, who took on Jewish identity in the 7th century. See Arthur Koestler's seminal work The Thirteenth Tribe
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  • @Ozymandias
    "If society rewards greed then people will be greedy. It is capitalism that breeds evil not the human."

    No such thing as a greedy socialist then. Got it.

    I am sure that you would be the first to tell me that there has never been a successful socialist regime. What I can tell you though is that you probably have no idea what socialism means. Whether people that call themselves socialists are greedy or not is irrelevant anyway – the issue is what the system encourages – capitalism encourages greed, greedy people thrive. in socialism greedy people would not thrive.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    So called "socialism" is the very definition of failure.

    If you disagree, then please give us an example of a successful "socialist" country.

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  • It’s all about gimmedats and free cookies.

    If these people had any pride, they would set up their own decolonized institutions and have drug-fuelled hippie feasts till 04:00 every single day. Then they could retreat to their schoolrooms and study books of 15 pages written in reduced vocabulary. After 5 years of that, finding a job in the ghetto should be easy.

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  • @Wally
    The real denial is the left's denial of the obvious, observable low IQs of blacks & browns.

    In EVERY instance where blacks are in great numbers, control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we ALWAYS see:
    massive murder rates
    massive crime in general
    degraded property
    massive disease, especially STDs
    massive drug abuse
    general filth, squalor
    massive, unable to support their own children, birthrates
    massive youth pregnancies rates
    massive school dropout rates
    incredibly low IQs & test scores
    violence as a way of life
    fathers nowhere to be found

    Hi Wally,

    Me again. Have your read about IQ tests? Do you know that nurture plays a huge role in outcomes? Do you know that IQ does not measure innate intelligence? What is your IQ BTW? Maybe not much more than the poor downtrodden blacks and brownies that you mention.

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    So you are saying low IQ people know nothing about 'nurture'.

    I know all about IQ tests. They are the best predictor of outcome there is.
    Just look at a globe.

    My IQ is 152, yours?

    Touche.

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  • @Wally
    If "capitalism" and colonialism was / is so horrible, then why is it that the former 'colonialized' people try their hardest to get into the "capitalist"/ 'colonial' countries?

    I think your name Wally suits you! If people have very little and the neighbour has lots then why would you not seek more?

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    So why do they have so little?
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  • @bomag

    I ask for evidence...
     
    Is there any evidence for your side? All societies and peoples that I know of spent plenty of resources taking things from their neighbors.

    “that I know” is the key to your comment – you obviously do not know of any of the peoples that lived lives in harmony with nature and their fellows.

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    • Replies: @Delinquent Snail
    Because it doesnt happen. They get eaten by their bigger neighbor.
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  • @FKA Max
    As our population becomes less white, however, more and more whites will be forced to step away from this painting and view it with fresh eyes. They will have no choice, given that the greater presence of unruly nonwhites will make viewing this painting even from a moderate distance increasingly dangerous. Such nonwhites possess the same insecurities as the Jews but tend to be more violent and totalitarian in expressing them. As their power and confidence swells, however, these nonwhites will increase their efforts to thought-police whites into coming closer to the painting or shutting their eyes to it entirely, which is tantamount to complete submission. They will do this through threats and they will do this through violence, and they will continue to be egged on or ignored by our elites, Jewish or otherwise. In any event, a white population blinded from the Truth, unable to control its destiny, and completely denuded of its fighting spirit will not survive long. - https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/08/a-perspective-as-wide-as-the-world/

    The case for colonialism

    by Bruce Gilley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Gilley

    Abstract

    WITHDRAWAL NOTICE

    This Viewpoint essay has been withdrawn at the request of the academic journal editor, and in agreement with the author of the essay. Following a number of complaints, Taylor & Francis conducted a thorough investigation into the peer review process on this article. Whilst this clearly demonstrated the essay had undergone double-blind peer review, in line with the journal's editorial policy, the journal editor has subsequently received serious and credible threats of personal violence. These threats are linked to the publication of this essay. As the publisher, we must take this seriously. Taylor & Francis has a strong and supportive duty of care to all our academic editorial teams, and this is why we are withdrawing this essay.
     
    - http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01436597.2017.1369037

    Archived Abstract:

    Abstract
    For the last 100 years, Western colonialism has had a bad name. It is high time to question this orthodoxy. Western colonialism was, as a general rule, both objectively beneficial and subjectively legitimate in most of the places where it was found, using realistic measures of those concepts. The countries that embraced their colonial inheritance, by and large, did better than those that spurned it. Anti-colonial ideology imposed grave harms on subject peoples and continues to thwart sustained development and a fruitful encounter with modernity in many places. Colonialism can be recovered by weak and fragile states today in three ways: by reclaiming colonial modes of governance; by recolonising some areas; and by creating new Western colonies from scratch.
     
    - http://archive.is/Q0BKX

    ABOLISH ALL SCIENCE 'COS ITS RACIST! -SJW University Student

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i80qaETtw8

    Its honestly sickening to see this level of science denialism in universities.

    The journal editor has subsequently received serious and credible threats of personal violence. These threats are linked to the publication of this essay. As the publisher, we must take this seriously. Taylor & Francis has a strong and supportive duty of care to all our academic editorial teams, and this is why we are withdrawing this essay.

    Completely unacceptable behaviour. If there are “credible threats” then the police should get involved. Retiring an article is not on, because that’s the end of everything.

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  • @Wally
    The real denial is the left's denial of the obvious, observable low IQs of blacks & browns.

    In EVERY instance where blacks are in great numbers, control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we ALWAYS see:
    massive murder rates
    massive crime in general
    degraded property
    massive disease, especially STDs
    massive drug abuse
    general filth, squalor
    massive, unable to support their own children, birthrates
    massive youth pregnancies rates
    massive school dropout rates
    incredibly low IQs & test scores
    violence as a way of life
    fathers nowhere to be found

    There are exceptions like Prince George’s County, for example, and Barbados, etc.: http://www.unz.com/isteve/tyler-cowen-interviews-raj-chetty-on-my-critique/#comment-1888686

    Why Is Barbados So Civilized?

    Remember that Barbados was the jewel in the crown of the British colonies, and was a colony until it was granted independence in 1966. Contrary to contemporary opinion, colonialism, especially the English variety, was (compared to the governments ruling in former colonies today), a very effective and successful system of government.
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/why-is-barbados-so-civilized/#comment-1956532

    I think an important distinction has to me made between Catholic/French/Belgian, etc. and Protestant/British/Dutch, etc. colonies here, when it comes to the promotion or prohibition of birth control, etc. and what kind of effect this has had on the difference in observed levels of civility and violence these nations exhibit even today. In my experience, even majority-African populations can be relatively civilized and prosperous if they have the combination and follow the formula of a lower fertility rate and a higher median age population. This demographic combination has a civilizing and pacifying effect on any culture and people, no matter the genetic, racial predisposition towards aggression, impulsivity, etc. due to a higher prevalence of “warrior gene” (low-activity MAOA alleles) carriers in certain populations: http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2056086

    This, incidentally, probably also explains why Hispanics born in the U.S. are more criminal on average than Hispanic immigrants; they are simply much younger, and therefore more unruly, rebellious, risk-taking, etc. U.S. born Hispanics’ median age is 19, whereas foreign-born U.S. Hispanics’ median age is 40, according to Pew Research.

    Source: http://www.pewhispanic.org/ph_2015-03_statistical-portrait-of-hispanics-in-the-united-states-2013_current-09/

    Youth Bulge: A Demographic Dividend or a Demographic Bomb in Developing Countries?

    http://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/youth-bulge-a-demographic-dividend-or-a-demographic-bomb-in-developing-countries

    The Effects of ‘Youth Bulge’ on Civil Conflicts

    http://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/youth-bulge-a-demographic-dividend-or-a-demographic-bomb-in-developing-countries

    Compare Protestant/British Barbados’ fertility rate history (currently it has a fertility rate of ~1.84):

    Source: https://en.actualitix.com/country/brb/barbados-birth-rate.php

    to Catholic/French Haiti’s fertility rate history (currently it has a fertility rate of ~2.8):

    Source: https://en.actualitix.com/country/hti/haiti-birth-rate.php

    Throughout the 1920s, Stopes and other feminist pioneers, including Dora Russell and Stella Browne, played a major role in breaking down taboos about sex and increasing knowledge, pleasure and improved reproductive health. Stopes was particularly influential in helping emerging birth control movements in a number of British colonies.[47]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control#Modern_birth_control_movement

    In France, the 1920 Birth Law contained a clause that criminalized dissemination of birth-control literature.[56] That law, however, was annulled in 1967 by the Neuwirth Law, thus authorizing contraception, which was followed in 1975 with the Veil Law. Women fought for reproductive rights and they helped end the nation’s ban on birth control in 1965.[57] In 1994, 5% of French women aged 20 to 49 who were at risk of unintended pregnancy did not use contraception.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control#Late_20th_century

    Reasons for extremely high fertility
    rates in Syria can be explained from a
    cultural as well as a sociopolitical per-
    spective. One explanation to the high fer-
    tility rates especially before the 1980s da-
    tes back to the early 20th century when
    Syria was under the French mandate. The
    French banned contraception and abor-
    tion, following policies they enforced in
    other colonies and in France itself.
    These
    policies, which in no way countered the
    Syrian preference for large families,
    remained in effect even after Syria gained
    its independence.
    http://www.bioetica.ro/index.php/arhiva-bioetica/article/download/44/44

    I had a detailed and contentious discussion/debate on this particular topic and what role it has played in the war in Syria, in the following comments thread: I believe demographics is the answer, because Iran took population growth and control more seriously than Syria et al. This is not tinfoil-hattery, this is a sober and objective analysis of demographics, economics, political corruption, resource availability, etc.http://www.unz.com/jpetras/how-billionaires-become-billionaires/#comment-2043743

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  • I am just not clear on what constitutes white culture.

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    A good place to start might be the entire curriculum of any British or American educational institution before ideological deconstruction cemented its oppressive occupation of academia (pre-1970s or thereabouts?).

    Or you could just read Barzun's Dawn to Decadence, although it's obviously not big on optimism for said culture.
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  • An excellent and brave piece by Andrew Joyce for which we again must thank Ron Unz for hosting.

    I would merely like to add a few comments. First to add to Roberts comments, we add those of Thomas Pakenham at the end of his Scramble for Africa. ‘Yet how many Africans would want to turn the clock back to the 1880s. The steamers and airlines of the world now bring material benefits to the 47 new states of the continent on a scale undreamt of a century ago. Best of all Europe has given Africa the aspiration for freedom and human dignity..”

    Indeed! King Leopold’s statue is back in Kinshasa. The first thing the Eritreans did on realizing their independence in 1991 was to rebuild the old Italian railway from Massawa to Asmara. In many countries there is a movement to protect the colonial architectural heritage. And if you talk to Africans in Africa, many are appreciative of what Europeans left behind and how scathing they are of their own elites who join the blame fest. As one Zimbabwean said to me ‘you know things are going to go downhill when they start renaming the towns and the streets.’ That was in 1993 and you know where Zimbabwe is now.

    As Robert Weissberg pointed out in a recent piece, those who climb most enthusiastically on the anti-colonial and racist bandwagon are African-Americans and second and third generation black immigrants who have never set foot in Africa nor have any intention to do so.

    We whites are responsible for this. We accept this continuing denigration of ourselves, our culture and our achievements. We accept marginalization of our achievements by wildly exaggerating the role of blacks (the film Hidden Figures is a great example) and we never stop excusing black failure by hoisting the petard of racism and discrimination. If we are to start to get minorities to respect us, we better start respecting ourselves.

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  • And on it goes. ..where it ends no one knows.

    NYTimes: Can My Children Be Friends With White People?
    By EKOW N. YANKAHNOV. 11, 2017

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/opinion/sunday/interracial-friendship-donald-trump.html?ref=oembed

    ” Donald Trump’s election has made it clear that I will teach my boys the lesson generations old, one that I for the most part nearly escaped. I will teach them to be cautious, I will teach them suspicion, and I will teach them distrust. Much sooner than I thought I would, I will have to discuss with my boys whether they can truly be friends with white people.”

    *Ekow N. Yankah is a professor at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University

    NYT Op-Ed: White People Are Violent Racists | The American …
    Ekow N. Yankah, graduate not of Baton Rouge Community College, but of Columbia and Oxford, teaches law at Yeshiva University. He lives in the West Village, … theamericanconservative.com/dreher/yankah-whites-violent

    California NAACP Is Pushing To Remove ‘Racist’ Star-Spangled Banner As National Anthem

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/california-naacp-pushing-remove-racist-195524080.html

    ’The California chapter of the NAACP is pushing for the removal of “The Star-Spangled Banner” as the national anthem, blaming it for much of controversy surrounding NFL players’ decision to kneel during the singing of it, The Sacramento Bee reports.
    The group also plans on doing what they can to get Colin Kaepernick hired by another NFL team.
    “”“”“We owe a lot of it to Kaepernick,” said NAACP California chapter president Alice Huffman. “I think all this controversy about the knee will go away once the song is removed.”
    “”“”Huffman called the national anthem “racist” and “anti-black,” citing the lyrics of the third stanza during an interview with a local CBS station

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  • Andrew Joyce is not only a gifted writer, but a first-rate intellectual. Few can deflate pc cant with his dexterity. And he’s always prepared to blow back exhaust from the ever-present Zionist fog machine. Joyce pops the pc bubble wherever he goes. And he’s prolific. The endless and fraudulent sermons that rain down on Americans concerning race, immigration and ‘anti-Semitism’ are no match for his scholarly rebuttals.

    For years I have savored Joyce’s analyses on the The Occidental Observer. It’s gratifying to see that he is arousing plenty of attention here on UNZ.

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    Disagree.

    Joyce's writing is loaded w/ academic jargon, wordy, too involved w/ abstractions. seems to be aimed at impressing a PhD committee, not with explaining fundamental points to a general audience.

    instead of allowing himself to be drawn into the White vs Black "discourse," Joyce -- who is, I agree, an important contributor to the debate -- would do a better job if he talked about various ethnic cultural groups -- the French are different from Anglos different from Germans different from Persians different from Spaniards, etc. What makes them different?

    regarding "Blacks," and something this Forum is guilty of devolving to, a concentration on "White IQ = HIGH, Black IQ = low," -- that's all meaningless and offensive generalizations, imo -- applying "white" standards to a dense & rich Black/African cultures that we know precious little about.

    Black people span the spectrum, just as 'white' people do; there were Black kings, princes, queens; Black people are from numerous cultural backgrounds spanning a vast geographic area: we should explore them, appreciate their long and significant histories, from their ancient roots.

    This is especially important at a time when USA is competing with China to militarize / colonize Africa.

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  • @FKA Max
    As our population becomes less white, however, more and more whites will be forced to step away from this painting and view it with fresh eyes. They will have no choice, given that the greater presence of unruly nonwhites will make viewing this painting even from a moderate distance increasingly dangerous. Such nonwhites possess the same insecurities as the Jews but tend to be more violent and totalitarian in expressing them. As their power and confidence swells, however, these nonwhites will increase their efforts to thought-police whites into coming closer to the painting or shutting their eyes to it entirely, which is tantamount to complete submission. They will do this through threats and they will do this through violence, and they will continue to be egged on or ignored by our elites, Jewish or otherwise. In any event, a white population blinded from the Truth, unable to control its destiny, and completely denuded of its fighting spirit will not survive long. - https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/08/a-perspective-as-wide-as-the-world/

    The case for colonialism

    by Bruce Gilley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Gilley

    Abstract

    WITHDRAWAL NOTICE

    This Viewpoint essay has been withdrawn at the request of the academic journal editor, and in agreement with the author of the essay. Following a number of complaints, Taylor & Francis conducted a thorough investigation into the peer review process on this article. Whilst this clearly demonstrated the essay had undergone double-blind peer review, in line with the journal's editorial policy, the journal editor has subsequently received serious and credible threats of personal violence. These threats are linked to the publication of this essay. As the publisher, we must take this seriously. Taylor & Francis has a strong and supportive duty of care to all our academic editorial teams, and this is why we are withdrawing this essay.
     
    - http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01436597.2017.1369037

    Archived Abstract:

    Abstract
    For the last 100 years, Western colonialism has had a bad name. It is high time to question this orthodoxy. Western colonialism was, as a general rule, both objectively beneficial and subjectively legitimate in most of the places where it was found, using realistic measures of those concepts. The countries that embraced their colonial inheritance, by and large, did better than those that spurned it. Anti-colonial ideology imposed grave harms on subject peoples and continues to thwart sustained development and a fruitful encounter with modernity in many places. Colonialism can be recovered by weak and fragile states today in three ways: by reclaiming colonial modes of governance; by recolonising some areas; and by creating new Western colonies from scratch.
     
    - http://archive.is/Q0BKX

    ABOLISH ALL SCIENCE 'COS ITS RACIST! -SJW University Student

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i80qaETtw8

    Its honestly sickening to see this level of science denialism in universities.

    The real denial is the left’s denial of the obvious, observable low IQs of blacks & browns.

    In EVERY instance where blacks are in great numbers, control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we ALWAYS see:
    massive murder rates
    massive crime in general
    degraded property
    massive disease, especially STDs
    massive drug abuse
    general filth, squalor
    massive, unable to support their own children, birthrates
    massive youth pregnancies rates
    massive school dropout rates
    incredibly low IQs & test scores
    violence as a way of life
    fathers nowhere to be found

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    There are exceptions like Prince George's County, for example, and Barbados, etc.: http://www.unz.com/isteve/tyler-cowen-interviews-raj-chetty-on-my-critique/#comment-1888686

    Why Is Barbados So Civilized?

    Remember that Barbados was the jewel in the crown of the British colonies, and was a colony until it was granted independence in 1966. Contrary to contemporary opinion, colonialism, especially the English variety, was (compared to the governments ruling in former colonies today), a very effective and successful system of government.
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/why-is-barbados-so-civilized/#comment-1956532

    I think an important distinction has to me made between Catholic/French/Belgian, etc. and Protestant/British/Dutch, etc. colonies here, when it comes to the promotion or prohibition of birth control, etc. and what kind of effect this has had on the difference in observed levels of civility and violence these nations exhibit even today. In my experience, even majority-African populations can be relatively civilized and prosperous if they have the combination and follow the formula of a lower fertility rate and a higher median age population. This demographic combination has a civilizing and pacifying effect on any culture and people, no matter the genetic, racial predisposition towards aggression, impulsivity, etc. due to a higher prevalence of ``warrior gene'' (low-activity MAOA alleles) carriers in certain populations: http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2056086

    This, incidentally, probably also explains why Hispanics born in the U.S. are more criminal on average than Hispanic immigrants; they are simply much younger, and therefore more unruly, rebellious, risk-taking, etc. U.S. born Hispanics' median age is 19, whereas foreign-born U.S. Hispanics' median age is 40, according to Pew Research.

    http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2015/03/PH_2015-03_statistical-portrait-of-hispanics-in-the-united-states-2013_current-09.png

    Source: http://www.pewhispanic.org/ph_2015-03_statistical-portrait-of-hispanics-in-the-united-states-2013_current-09/


    Youth Bulge: A Demographic Dividend or a Demographic Bomb in Developing Countries?

    http://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/youth-bulge-a-demographic-dividend-or-a-demographic-bomb-in-developing-countries

    The Effects of ‘Youth Bulge’ on Civil Conflicts

    http://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/youth-bulge-a-demographic-dividend-or-a-demographic-bomb-in-developing-countries

    Compare Protestant/British Barbados' fertility rate history (currently it has a fertility rate of ~1.84):

    https://en.actualitix.com/chart/brb/barbados-birth-rate.png

    Source: https://en.actualitix.com/country/brb/barbados-birth-rate.php

    to Catholic/French Haiti's fertility rate history (currently it has a fertility rate of ~2.8):

    https://en.actualitix.com/chart/hti/haiti-birth-rate.png

    Source: https://en.actualitix.com/country/hti/haiti-birth-rate.php

    Throughout the 1920s, Stopes and other feminist pioneers, including Dora Russell and Stella Browne, played a major role in breaking down taboos about sex and increasing knowledge, pleasure and improved reproductive health. Stopes was particularly influential in helping emerging birth control movements in a number of British colonies.[47] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control#Modern_birth_control_movement

    In France, the 1920 Birth Law contained a clause that criminalized dissemination of birth-control literature.[56] That law, however, was annulled in 1967 by the Neuwirth Law, thus authorizing contraception, which was followed in 1975 with the Veil Law. Women fought for reproductive rights and they helped end the nation's ban on birth control in 1965.[57] In 1994, 5% of French women aged 20 to 49 who were at risk of unintended pregnancy did not use contraception.[58] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control#Late_20th_century

    Reasons for extremely high fertility
    rates in Syria can be explained from a
    cultural as well as a sociopolitical per-
    spective. One explanation to the high fer-
    tility rates especially before the 1980s da-
    tes back to the early 20th century when
    Syria was under the French mandate. The
    French banned contraception and abor-
    tion, following policies they enforced in
    other colonies and in France itself.
    These
    policies, which in no way countered the
    Syrian preference for large families,
    remained in effect even after Syria gained
    its independence.
    - http://www.bioetica.ro/index.php/arhiva-bioetica/article/download/44/44

    I had a detailed and contentious discussion/debate on this particular topic and what role it has played in the war in Syria, in the following comments thread: I believe demographics is the answer, because Iran took population growth and control more seriously than Syria et al. This is not tinfoil-hattery, this is a sober and objective analysis of demographics, economics, political corruption, resource availability, etc. - http://www.unz.com/jpetras/how-billionaires-become-billionaires/#comment-2043743
    , @wazzally
    Hi Wally,

    Me again. Have your read about IQ tests? Do you know that nurture plays a huge role in outcomes? Do you know that IQ does not measure innate intelligence? What is your IQ BTW? Maybe not much more than the poor downtrodden blacks and brownies that you mention.
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  • @wayfarer
    http://www.strengthsensei.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Homer.jpg

    “We’ll keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as the White race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed. The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists.”

    – Noel Ignatiev, Harvard Professor.
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDWIgJzmi0Y

    ...

    No surprise that Ignatiev is jewish.

    ”Ignatiev, the son of Jewish immigrants from Russia, was raised in Philadelphia.[4] He attended the University of Pennsylvania but dropped out after three years.

    Under the name Noel Ignatin, he joined the Communist Party USA in January 1958, but in August left (along with Theodore W. Allen and Harry Haywood) to help form the Provisional Organizing Committee to Reconstitute the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party (POC). He was expelled from the POC in 1966.[5]

    Later he became involved in the Students for a Democratic Society. When that organization fractured in the late 1960s, Ignatiev became part of the Third-worldist and Maoist New Communist Movement, forming the group Sojourner Truth Organization in 1970. Unlike other groups in the New Communist Movement, the STO and Ignatiev were also heavily influenced by the ideas of Trinidadian writer C. L. R. James.

    For 20 years, Ignatiev worked in a Chicago steel mill in the manufacturing of farming equipment and electrical components. A Marxist activist, he was involved in strikes by the mostly-African-American laborers of the steel mill. In 1984, he was laid off from the steel mill, approximately a year after an arrest on charges of attacking a strike-breaker’s car with a paint bomb

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    Noel Ignatiev is a white man, espousing the genocide of white men.

    On the darker side, we're talking textbook case for a delusional identity crisis.

    On the lighter side, we're talking great material for a stand-up comic routine.

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  • @Anonymous
    I think despite all of the black washing going on there's still black history in Europe that is not acknowledged or given the level of attention due.

    Take Pushkin's great-grandfather, a black man, who ruled over Estonia about 250 years ago. No one in Estonia seems to have heard of him as far as I can tell. But all Baltic school children should be taught about the life of this black man.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abram_Petrovich_Gannibal

    Except he wasn’t black.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    All the available evidence would seem to suggest otherwise.
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  • @Wazzally
    Quote "Colonialism has thus ceased to be regarded in modern social and academic discourse as a human universal, easily explained by evolutionary impulses"

    I ask for evidence that colonialism is a universal easily explained by Darwin. If society rewards greed then people will be greedy. It is capitalism that breeds evil not the human.

    If “capitalism” and colonialism was / is so horrible, then why is it that the former ‘colonialized’ people try their hardest to get into the “capitalist”/ ‘colonial’ countries?

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    I think your name Wally suits you! If people have very little and the neighbour has lots then why would you not seek more?
    , @Corvinus
    "If “capitalism” and colonialism was / is so horrible, then why is it that the former ‘colonialized’ people try their hardest to get into the “capitalist”/ ‘colonial’ countries?"

    Because the capitalists/colonialists invaded the world and invited the world.
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  • @Michael Kenny
    Here in Europe, the aversion to colonialism came, not so much from moral principles, as from the European concept of the nation-state, of which decolonisation is in fact a logical corollary. The concept of the nation-state flowed from the principles of the French Revolution and has been spreading slowly across Europe ever since. In its pure form, the concept of the nation-state is that each and every European ethnic group (nation) is entitled to have its own sovereign state, which should embrace all members of that group. Even today, of course, very few European countries are nation-states in the pure form. Many have at least some small ethnic minorities and some ethnic groups are split between different states. In the 19th century, when the multi-ethnic empires dominated the European scene and when the word “nation” meant little more than the population of the state, no one saw anything wrong with colonialism. After WWI, when the concept of the nation-state really took hold and “intra-European” colonialism began to fall apart, the European-educated elites of the colonies began to say “why not us?”. In terms of European political principles, there was no way of saying no to that. All the colonial elites were asking was to do in their own indigenous territories what we Europeans were doing in our indigenous territories. After WWII, that led to the wave of decolonisation that we saw so that, nowadays, the only European empire still in existence is the Russian Federation.
    The problem is that the European concept of the nation-state cannot be applied to the white settler states (the US, Australia …). They are not, and never can be, nation-states and, unlike European whites, the descendants of the settlers are not the indigenous people of their modern territory. There is no existential threat to white people in Europe, but a South Africa-style scenario is always possible in the settler states as other ethnic groups, whether the indigenous people or non-European immigrants, become predominant. The white population of the settler states are going to have to make their peace in whatever way they think appropriate with the land to which their ancestors brought them and with the other people who now live there. Human civilisation is an infinitely slowly forward-moving perpetual motion machine. There is no “end of history” and no turning back. Without their being any need whatsoever to debate the rights and wrongs of colonialism, therefore, trying to turn back the clock to the colonial era is quite simply impossible.

    If the Russian Federation is an empire, then how are Spain, the UK, Denmark, France and the Netherlands not empires too? Let’s throw Italy in while we’re at it.

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  • Fine. Just boot all blacks from the institutions they consider ‘colonized’. Let them build their own institutions from the ground up. We know they can’t govern themselves in Africa and urban US areas, so I doubt they’d be successful at that either.

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  • By all means, let’s remove the awful White presence, but let’s make it real. No more White presence for your electricity, no more White presence for your water and sewer, for farms, for transportation, energy supplies, remove EVERYTHING White. Why should they have the behind-the-scenes Whiteness-effect (lights and running water, food, a roof, all the things Blacks could NEVER put together for themselves, ever) along with a complete subjugation of the very people that keep things comfortable for those who would slay us? Is that not the very embodiment of the slavery they claim we still impose? Well they can go fuck themselves. And shame on the Whites that cooperate.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I think despite all of the black washing going on there’s still black history in Europe that is not acknowledged or given the level of attention due.

    Take Pushkin’s great-grandfather, a black man, who ruled over Estonia about 250 years ago. No one in Estonia seems to have heard of him as far as I can tell. But all Baltic school children should be taught about the life of this black man.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abram_Petrovich_Gannibal

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    Except he wasn't black.
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  • Here in Europe, the aversion to colonialism came, not so much from moral principles, as from the European concept of the nation-state, of which decolonisation is in fact a logical corollary. The concept of the nation-state flowed from the principles of the French Revolution and has been spreading slowly across Europe ever since. In its pure form, the concept of the nation-state is that each and every European ethnic group (nation) is entitled to have its own sovereign state, which should embrace all members of that group. Even today, of course, very few European countries are nation-states in the pure form. Many have at least some small ethnic minorities and some ethnic groups are split between different states. In the 19th century, when the multi-ethnic empires dominated the European scene and when the word “nation” meant little more than the population of the state, no one saw anything wrong with colonialism. After WWI, when the concept of the nation-state really took hold and “intra-European” colonialism began to fall apart, the European-educated elites of the colonies began to say “why not us?”. In terms of European political principles, there was no way of saying no to that. All the colonial elites were asking was to do in their own indigenous territories what we Europeans were doing in our indigenous territories. After WWII, that led to the wave of decolonisation that we saw so that, nowadays, the only European empire still in existence is the Russian Federation.
    The problem is that the European concept of the nation-state cannot be applied to the white settler states (the US, Australia …). They are not, and never can be, nation-states and, unlike European whites, the descendants of the settlers are not the indigenous people of their modern territory. There is no existential threat to white people in Europe, but a South Africa-style scenario is always possible in the settler states as other ethnic groups, whether the indigenous people or non-European immigrants, become predominant. The white population of the settler states are going to have to make their peace in whatever way they think appropriate with the land to which their ancestors brought them and with the other people who now live there. Human civilisation is an infinitely slowly forward-moving perpetual motion machine. There is no “end of history” and no turning back. Without their being any need whatsoever to debate the rights and wrongs of colonialism, therefore, trying to turn back the clock to the colonial era is quite simply impossible.

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    If the Russian Federation is an empire, then how are Spain, the UK, Denmark, France and the Netherlands not empires too? Let's throw Italy in while we're at it.
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  • Colonialism is bad for whites. When whites (meaning peoples of European culture and language via genetics) practice colonialism on ‘other’ whites, they are destroying white culture. When whites practice colonialism on non-whites, they produce more and more whites who feel sorry for the non-whites. Eventually, the bleeding hearts create a fantasy about the non-whites as especially pure and insightful, and then they make all whites the ogre.

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  • A most excellent essay.

    Except for the Jewish point; their intellectual contribution makes them a net contributor.

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  • @Wazzally
    Quote "Colonialism has thus ceased to be regarded in modern social and academic discourse as a human universal, easily explained by evolutionary impulses"

    I ask for evidence that colonialism is a universal easily explained by Darwin. If society rewards greed then people will be greedy. It is capitalism that breeds evil not the human.

    That’s the reason no Marxist nation ever conquered another nation or acted to destrroy any group of people it ruled.

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  • @Wazzally
    Quote "Colonialism has thus ceased to be regarded in modern social and academic discourse as a human universal, easily explained by evolutionary impulses"

    I ask for evidence that colonialism is a universal easily explained by Darwin. If society rewards greed then people will be greedy. It is capitalism that breeds evil not the human.

    I ask for evidence…

    Is there any evidence for your side? All societies and peoples that I know of spent plenty of resources taking things from their neighbors.

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    "that I know" is the key to your comment - you obviously do not know of any of the peoples that lived lives in harmony with nature and their fellows.
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  • “We’ll keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as the White race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed. The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists.”

    – Noel Ignatiev, Harvard Professor.
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

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    No surprise that Ignatiev is jewish.

    ''Ignatiev, the son of Jewish immigrants from Russia, was raised in Philadelphia.[4] He attended the University of Pennsylvania but dropped out after three years.

    Under the name Noel Ignatin, he joined the Communist Party USA in January 1958, but in August left (along with Theodore W. Allen and Harry Haywood) to help form the Provisional Organizing Committee to Reconstitute the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party (POC). He was expelled from the POC in 1966.[5]

    Later he became involved in the Students for a Democratic Society. When that organization fractured in the late 1960s, Ignatiev became part of the Third-worldist and Maoist New Communist Movement, forming the group Sojourner Truth Organization in 1970. Unlike other groups in the New Communist Movement, the STO and Ignatiev were also heavily influenced by the ideas of Trinidadian writer C. L. R. James.

    For 20 years, Ignatiev worked in a Chicago steel mill in the manufacturing of farming equipment and electrical components. A Marxist activist, he was involved in strikes by the mostly-African-American laborers of the steel mill. In 1984, he was laid off from the steel mill, approximately a year after an arrest on charges of attacking a strike-breaker's car with a paint bomb
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  • Life imitates art ….

    What Have the Romans Ever Done For Us?

    From “Monty Python’s Life of Brian”

    Reg: They’ve bled us white, the bastards. They’ve taken everything we had, not just from us, from our fathers and from our fathers’ fathers.

    Stan: And from our fathers’ fathers’ fathers.

    Reg: Yes.

    Stan: And from our fathers’ fathers’ fathers’ fathers.

    Reg: All right, Stan. Don’t labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?

    Xerxes: The aqueduct.

    Reg: Oh yeah, yeah they gave us that. Yeah. That’s true.

    Masked Activist: And the sanitation!

    Stan: Oh yes… sanitation, Reg, you remember what the city used to be like.

    Reg: All right, I’ll grant you that the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done…

    Matthias: And the roads…

    Reg: (sharply) Well yes obviously the roads… the roads go without saying. But apart from the aqueduct, the sanitation and the roads…

    Another Masked Activist: Irrigation…

    Other Masked Voices: Medicine… Education… Health…

    Reg: Yes… all right, fair enough…

    Activist Near Front: And the wine…

    Omnes: Oh yes! True!

    Francis: Yeah. That’s something we’d really miss if the Romans left, Reg.

    Masked Activist at Back: Public baths!

    Stan: And it’s safe to walk in the streets at night now.

    Francis: Yes, they certainly know how to keep order… (general nodding)… let’s face it, they’re the only ones who could in a place like this.

    (more general murmurs of agreement)

    Reg: All right… all right… but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order… what have the Romans done for us?

    Xerxes: Brought peace!

    Reg: (very angry, he’s not having a good meeting at all) What!? Oh… (scornfully) Peace, yes… shut up!

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  • The idea that colonisation is just a white phenomenon is nonsense.
    The Aztecs in about a hundred years colonised, by force, large territories in what now is S America.
    After the colonisation there was a good government, food storage and distribution.
    There is a lot te be said against western colonisation, but two remarks.
    Someone from N Africa said in a documentary a few years ago ‘in colonial times we were better off’.
    The income per capita in the Dutch East Indies in 1940 Indonesia reached again in the seventies.

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  • Across the planet it is the cities that have colonized the land, through the “democratic” process. The entire US has been colonized by the District of Columbia, just think of the term “fly-over country”.

    The status quo will continue until the jews are disarmed of their primary weapon: control of money itself. This time could be rapidly approaching and when the EBT cards aren’t reloaded and government stops spewing government cheese, then even these affirmative action intellectuals will be busy colonizing Walmarts, Malls and gated communities.

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  • Thanks for publishing this thoughtful, well-written, and courageous essay. I have never heard of Mr Joyce before, but will seek out his work in the future. Kudos to Mr Unz and his Review.

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    Dr Joyce has been writing, among others, for the Occidental Observer website for many years. You can find a large set of his previous essays - every one of them, like this one, meticulously researched, impeccably reasoned and beautifully written - included in the Author Archive list which is always linked on the front page of that site.

    www.theoccidentalobserver.net
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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Alt Right’s disapproval of colonialism is not just practical but is the result of an instinctual recognition that the alleged “good things” of colonialism such as modernity, development, and science are not good at all but are the supreme dangers whose telos is the inexorable annihilation of man and being.

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  • “Colonialism has thus ceased to be regarded in modern social and academic discourse as a human universal, easily explained by evolutionary impulses”

    Sure, it’s universal, but the genesis is not morally content free evolution, but Original Sin.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    In Britain, this led to an initial mass influx of non-Whites from the colonies between the passage of the British Nationality Act (1948), which defined British citizenship in accordance with the principle outlined by Powell, and the Commonwealth Immigration Act (1962), which only moderately slowed the tide. An almost identical scenario played out in France between 1945 and 1974, and in the Netherlands, which took in, between 1945 and 1990, around 730,000 migrants from the former Dutch colonies of Indonesia, Surinam, and the Dutch Antilles. It should be stated that the principles outlined by Powell were almost certainly always intended to remain just that — principles, but the vulnerability was nonetheless made available for exploitation in the form of mass non-White adoption of European citizenships. A similar vulnerability of principle may be observed in the jus soli interpretation of citizenship employed by the United States, which has been equally subjected to countless exploitations.

    It was because the Allies refused to surrender to Germany and Japan, give up their empires, and acquiesce to a new German order in Europe, even though they would have been able to keep their homelands and many of their holdings. They were too greedy and proud, and rather than giving up their empires and their non-white imperial subjects, wanted to keep them and use the subjects as troops against the Axis. They basically gave up citizenship to their subjects when they decided to rely on them for their survival as sovereign states.

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  • @Wazzally
    Quote "Colonialism has thus ceased to be regarded in modern social and academic discourse as a human universal, easily explained by evolutionary impulses"

    I ask for evidence that colonialism is a universal easily explained by Darwin. If society rewards greed then people will be greedy. It is capitalism that breeds evil not the human.

    “If society rewards greed then people will be greedy. It is capitalism that breeds evil not the human.”

    No such thing as a greedy socialist then. Got it.

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    I am sure that you would be the first to tell me that there has never been a successful socialist regime. What I can tell you though is that you probably have no idea what socialism means. Whether people that call themselves socialists are greedy or not is irrelevant anyway - the issue is what the system encourages - capitalism encourages greed, greedy people thrive. in socialism greedy people would not thrive.
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  • @FKA Max
    As our population becomes less white, however, more and more whites will be forced to step away from this painting and view it with fresh eyes. They will have no choice, given that the greater presence of unruly nonwhites will make viewing this painting even from a moderate distance increasingly dangerous. Such nonwhites possess the same insecurities as the Jews but tend to be more violent and totalitarian in expressing them. As their power and confidence swells, however, these nonwhites will increase their efforts to thought-police whites into coming closer to the painting or shutting their eyes to it entirely, which is tantamount to complete submission. They will do this through threats and they will do this through violence, and they will continue to be egged on or ignored by our elites, Jewish or otherwise. In any event, a white population blinded from the Truth, unable to control its destiny, and completely denuded of its fighting spirit will not survive long. - https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/08/a-perspective-as-wide-as-the-world/

    The case for colonialism

    by Bruce Gilley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Gilley

    Abstract

    WITHDRAWAL NOTICE

    This Viewpoint essay has been withdrawn at the request of the academic journal editor, and in agreement with the author of the essay. Following a number of complaints, Taylor & Francis conducted a thorough investigation into the peer review process on this article. Whilst this clearly demonstrated the essay had undergone double-blind peer review, in line with the journal's editorial policy, the journal editor has subsequently received serious and credible threats of personal violence. These threats are linked to the publication of this essay. As the publisher, we must take this seriously. Taylor & Francis has a strong and supportive duty of care to all our academic editorial teams, and this is why we are withdrawing this essay.
     
    - http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01436597.2017.1369037

    Archived Abstract:

    Abstract
    For the last 100 years, Western colonialism has had a bad name. It is high time to question this orthodoxy. Western colonialism was, as a general rule, both objectively beneficial and subjectively legitimate in most of the places where it was found, using realistic measures of those concepts. The countries that embraced their colonial inheritance, by and large, did better than those that spurned it. Anti-colonial ideology imposed grave harms on subject peoples and continues to thwart sustained development and a fruitful encounter with modernity in many places. Colonialism can be recovered by weak and fragile states today in three ways: by reclaiming colonial modes of governance; by recolonising some areas; and by creating new Western colonies from scratch.
     
    - http://archive.is/Q0BKX

    ABOLISH ALL SCIENCE 'COS ITS RACIST! -SJW University Student

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i80qaETtw8

    Its honestly sickening to see this level of science denialism in universities.

    Whites (and the legitimacy of their civilization) are thus especially vulnerable in modern discussions of colonization, slavery, and empire, not because their actions in these areas were particularly nefarious, but because they are the only successful ethnic group in these spheres willing to subject itself to such a critique, not only by others within the ethnic group, but also by ethnic outsiders claiming moral superiority.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erdmann_Isert

    He was appointed Chief Surgeon to Christiansborg (Osu, Accra) in Danish Guinea, arriving there in 1783. He sought this position because of his burning desire to collect plant specimens from West Africa. Once there, realizing that the inhabitants had no written language, he felt it his duty to record – for future generations – details of all aspects of life on the Gold Coast, as he observed them, thus creating an ethnographic, as well as botanical, work.


    Why were our forefathers not sensible enough to establish plantations right there in the fertile continent of Africa; plantations for sugar, coffee, cacao, cotton and other articles that had become so necessary in Europe?

    “…if we had come to them with an olive branch in our hand instead of murderous steel, the natives would willingly have given us access to the best and most fertile parts of their lands, areas which for untold years had been lying desolate.”

    These African people would have helped us in freedom and, for low wages would have given us greatness and riches with no offense against nature, or our personal and national consciences.

    Convinced of the feasibility of the plantations, an edict was issued in the name of King Christian VII by his son Prince Frederick (who was then Regent because of his father’s mental illness) on 16 March 1792, which came into effect on 1 January 1803. Denmark-Norway thus bears the honour of being the first established sovereign state to prohibit the transatlantic slave trade. But ultimately, the experimental plantations proved to be unsuccessful.

    Letters on West Africa and the Slave Trade. Paul Erdmann Isert’s Journey to Guinea and the Carribean Islands in Columbia (1788) https://www.amazon.com/Letters-Erdmann-Journey-Carribean-Columbia/dp/9988647018

    Source: https://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/493514/THE-DANISH-NATIONAL-ARCHIVES-Timeline-on-the-Danish-slave-trade/

    The World Bank contact for Ghana is located on:

    Ghana 69 Dr. Isert Road North Ridge Residential Area Postal address: P.O. Box M. 27 Accra, Ghana

    http://www.worldbank.org/en/region/afr/contacts

    Beyond the Paycheck Placer Dome Care Project in Southern Africa

    Placer Dome’s Care project was the first private sector project to ever win a World Bank Development Innovation Award.

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  • As our population becomes less white, however, more and more whites will be forced to step away from this painting and view it with fresh eyes. They will have no choice, given that the greater presence of unruly nonwhites will make viewing this painting even from a moderate distance increasingly dangerous. Such nonwhites possess the same insecurities as the Jews but tend to be more violent and totalitarian in expressing them. As their power and confidence swells, however, these nonwhites will increase their efforts to thought-police whites into coming closer to the painting or shutting their eyes to it entirely, which is tantamount to complete submission. They will do this through threats and they will do this through violence, and they will continue to be egged on or ignored by our elites, Jewish or otherwise. In any event, a white population blinded from the Truth, unable to control its destiny, and completely denuded of its fighting spirit will not survive long.https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/08/a-perspective-as-wide-as-the-world/

    The case for colonialism

    by Bruce Gilley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Gilley

    Abstract

    WITHDRAWAL NOTICE

    This Viewpoint essay has been withdrawn at the request of the academic journal editor, and in agreement with the author of the essay. Following a number of complaints, Taylor & Francis conducted a thorough investigation into the peer review process on this article. Whilst this clearly demonstrated the essay had undergone double-blind peer review, in line with the journal’s editorial policy, the journal editor has subsequently received serious and credible threats of personal violence. These threats are linked to the publication of this essay. As the publisher, we must take this seriously. Taylor & Francis has a strong and supportive duty of care to all our academic editorial teams, and this is why we are withdrawing this essay.

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01436597.2017.1369037

    Archived Abstract:

    Abstract
    For the last 100 years, Western colonialism has had a bad name. It is high time to question this orthodoxy. Western colonialism was, as a general rule, both objectively beneficial and subjectively legitimate in most of the places where it was found, using realistic measures of those concepts. The countries that embraced their colonial inheritance, by and large, did better than those that spurned it. Anti-colonial ideology imposed grave harms on subject peoples and continues to thwart sustained development and a fruitful encounter with modernity in many places. Colonialism can be recovered by weak and fragile states today in three ways: by reclaiming colonial modes of governance; by recolonising some areas; and by creating new Western colonies from scratch.

    http://archive.is/Q0BKX

    ABOLISH ALL SCIENCE ‘COS ITS RACIST! -SJW University Student

    Its honestly sickening to see this level of science denialism in universities.

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    Whites (and the legitimacy of their civilization) are thus especially vulnerable in modern discussions of colonization, slavery, and empire, not because their actions in these areas were particularly nefarious, but because they are the only successful ethnic group in these spheres willing to subject itself to such a critique, not only by others within the ethnic group, but also by ethnic outsiders claiming moral superiority.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erdmann_Isert

    He was appointed Chief Surgeon to Christiansborg (Osu, Accra) in Danish Guinea, arriving there in 1783. He sought this position because of his burning desire to collect plant specimens from West Africa. Once there, realizing that the inhabitants had no written language, he felt it his duty to record – for future generations – details of all aspects of life on the Gold Coast, as he observed them, thus creating an ethnographic, as well as botanical, work.


    Why were our forefathers not sensible enough to establish plantations right there in the fertile continent of Africa; plantations for sugar, coffee, cacao, cotton and other articles that had become so necessary in Europe?


    "...if we had come to them with an olive branch in our hand instead of murderous steel, the natives would willingly have given us access to the best and most fertile parts of their lands, areas which for untold years had been lying desolate."

    These African people would have helped us in freedom and, for low wages would have given us greatness and riches with no offense against nature, or our personal and national consciences.

    Convinced of the feasibility of the plantations, an edict was issued in the name of King Christian VII by his son Prince Frederick (who was then Regent because of his father's mental illness) on 16 March 1792, which came into effect on 1 January 1803. Denmark-Norway thus bears the honour of being the first established sovereign state to prohibit the transatlantic slave trade. But ultimately, the experimental plantations proved to be unsuccessful.

    Letters on West Africa and the Slave Trade. Paul Erdmann Isert's Journey to Guinea and the Carribean Islands in Columbia (1788) https://www.amazon.com/Letters-Erdmann-Journey-Carribean-Columbia/dp/9988647018

    https://www.sa.dk/undervisningfiler/2015/02/tl_slavehandel_07a_TitelbladetPaulErdmannIsertsBog.png

    Source: https://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/493514/THE-DANISH-NATIONAL-ARCHIVES-Timeline-on-the-Danish-slave-trade/

    The World Bank contact for Ghana is located on:

    Ghana 69 Dr. Isert Road North Ridge Residential Area Postal address: P.O. Box M. 27 Accra, Ghana
     
    - http://www.worldbank.org/en/region/afr/contacts

    Beyond the Paycheck Placer Dome Care Project in Southern Africa

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZMMqW3Qizk

    Placer Dome's Care project was the first private sector project to ever win a World Bank Development Innovation Award.
    , @Wally
    The real denial is the left's denial of the obvious, observable low IQs of blacks & browns.

    In EVERY instance where blacks are in great numbers, control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we ALWAYS see:
    massive murder rates
    massive crime in general
    degraded property
    massive disease, especially STDs
    massive drug abuse
    general filth, squalor
    massive, unable to support their own children, birthrates
    massive youth pregnancies rates
    massive school dropout rates
    incredibly low IQs & test scores
    violence as a way of life
    fathers nowhere to be found
    , @El Dato

    The journal editor has subsequently received serious and credible threats of personal violence. These threats are linked to the publication of this essay. As the publisher, we must take this seriously. Taylor & Francis has a strong and supportive duty of care to all our academic editorial teams, and this is why we are withdrawing this essay.
     
    Completely unacceptable behaviour. If there are "credible threats" then the police should get involved. Retiring an article is not on, because that's the end of everything.
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  • Irony is that people who claim to be post-colonial immediately adopt white SJW thought from their college professors.

    If they really were decolonizing their minds, they would reject western values altogether and replace them with their own native values. Except most of these people know nothing of their own values and thus hide under the alleged universalism of western ideas, making them supreme hypocrites.

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  • Quote “Colonialism has thus ceased to be regarded in modern social and academic discourse as a human universal, easily explained by evolutionary impulses”

    I ask for evidence that colonialism is a universal easily explained by Darwin. If society rewards greed then people will be greedy. It is capitalism that breeds evil not the human.

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    "If society rewards greed then people will be greedy. It is capitalism that breeds evil not the human."

    No such thing as a greedy socialist then. Got it.
    , @bomag

    I ask for evidence...
     
    Is there any evidence for your side? All societies and peoples that I know of spent plenty of resources taking things from their neighbors.
    , @Jake
    That's the reason no Marxist nation ever conquered another nation or acted to destrroy any group of people it ruled.
    , @Wally
    If "capitalism" and colonialism was / is so horrible, then why is it that the former 'colonialized' people try their hardest to get into the "capitalist"/ 'colonial' countries?
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  • Introduction Since World War II most of the world’s conflicts have revolved around struggles for independence against Western and Japanese colonial/imperial regimes Following formal independence, a new type of imperial domination was imposed – neo-colonial regimes, in which the US and its European allies imposed vassal rulers acting as proxies for economic exploitation. With the...
  • @gustafus
    Hamilton's Rule. It's our hard wiring.

    A couple hundred years of migration and integration hasn't changed our hard wiring to care for and defend, those who look and act like we do. And fight, and repel, those who don't look and act like we do.

    But the world is running out of time to find solutions to this state of nature, as 3rd world populations explode and the mean IQ of the planet is plummeting.

    WE SAVED THE CHILDREN .... and now they breed and don't read. We are awash in worthless breeders in a world of diminishing resources, and mass extinctions.

    The economic music is slowing and there are not 7 billion chairs. The big losers will be low IQ black and brown people who still practice r reproductive strategies in a world with penicillin and vaccines. Their numbers cannot be justified ... or contained.

    Tragically, very little can be done about low IQ - absent interbreeding. If that is a shocking statement, readers haven't been paying attention to the volumes of new information on the human genome project and the limits to raising IQ or changing r reproductive habits in emerging countries.

    Add the racial component and Hamilton's Rule - and we have the perfect storm for radical population reduction with suitcase nukes - designer CRISPER gene manipulation - or just old fashioned combat between races and ethnicities in a shrinking world.

    Everybody wants fewer people... the left wants fewer icky Wal Mart shoppers to match the numbers of Bangladishi's who will perish. The right wants rid of all the icky brown people.

    But we are in agreement on ONE thing. If we want clean air, water, forests, rivers and open space - a whole lotta people have to go. Soon.

    I, myself, have more sympathy for a giraffe than a Masai. I want tigers, not Hindus, to populate the southern Himalayas. I have ZERO interest in the hopes and dreams of the barrio children of Rio.

    And yes - I'm a racist. An unapologetic racist. But so are my adversaries with dark skin.

    I don't believe Western Civilization can be saved, absent a huge die off of low IQ 3rd world populations. The mean IQ of even American blacks is below that necessary for Democracy.

    Add 600 million Latinos to the south with a mean IQ of 85 - and constitutional government is finished. We are seeing the infiltration of our courts, legislatures, media and culture by low IQ populations whose ALLEGIANCE.... ie Hamilton's Rule - is to their own, and not America, the Republic.

    We see Blacks and Latinos in the courts forgiving the LOW IQ behaviors of their "brethren".

    AND we see the highest IQ citizens of the planet... Ashkenazi Jews - underwriting and advancing this sabotage of Western Culture - in , what is now, a failed evolutionary strategy to sabotage their nearest economic competitors... whites and Asians.

    The war on Trump - is the war on White Western Civilization by the dying DEEP STATE controlled by Ashkanazi Jews . Yes, Virginia.... is there anybody out there who still maintains that this enemy within isn't at the heart of the culture wars.?????

    But now the stakes are way way out of control. Emerging Muslim political muscle has caused a rift between Jews who believe they can control the low IQ brown and black populations after crushing White Christian civilization.... and those who are frightened of the alliance of blacks, browns and ISLAM.

    The time is NOW for Jewry to take a side. A definitive side. Because we are kidding ourselves that the levers of government, media, banking and world commerce aren't FIRMLY under the control of Jews. and ONLY JEWS.... but for the Oil Rich Middle East... which is proving to be more problematic than they anticipated.

    In a word... it's shit or get off the pot time for Hersh and company. You will either side with White Western Civilization against the breeding illiterati.... or perish with us.

    the highest IQ citizens of the planet… Ashkenazi Jews –

    Surely, the *disproof* of this thesis is WYSIWYG = all around, the world, supposedly dominated by Jews, is falling apart in most important directions, i.e. a planet mostly ruled by ‘Western democratic’ thieving tyrants, population numbers out of control with excess climate-killer CO2 moving in to slay Gaia = the until-now guardian of a liveable biosphere? A 2nd disproof is the illegitimate entity squatting in/on Palestine, what sort of ‘smarts’ is it that premeditatedly inflicts an alien invasion to implement land-theft via genocidal methods = the ultimate war-crime? Possible worst is their ‘supremacy complex’ which prevents them seeing any error until it’s irretrievable, then let’s hear “Der, I didn’t think…”

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  • From the article:

    The US imperialist state, like all aspiring empire-builders, represses or supports movements for self-determination according to their class and imperial interests. To be clear: Self-determination is a class-defined issue; it is not a general moral-legal principle.

    It is not because it would be a “class and imperial interests issue” for the US, that it would mean that it is not also a “moral-legal principle” per se.

    Or it would imply that phenomena are only defined by what they mean for the US.

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  • Capitalist ‘globalization’ is today’s greatest enemy to authentic self-determination.

    Capitalism is merely a tool. The greatest enemy to authentic self determination is a small number of especially sick money and power grubbers who sometimes act in concert and who sometimes do not.

    Governments, as pointed out in the article, are another tool they use.

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  • Since World War II most of the world’s conflicts have revolved around struggles for independence against Western and Japanese colonial/imperial regimes

    Could someone bring me up to speed on the colonies/imperial regimes of post WW2 Japan?

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  • The author referred to a great article about Kosovo, but provided no link. I wrote an editorial about it in 2004 that remains on line with the article. I won’t post the whole thing, but my editorial begins with:

    Editorial

    While the Bush Administration dances around their lies about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction used to justify the conquest of Iraq, let us recall the Clinton administration lied to justify their conquest of Kosovo in 1999. No mass graves were found, except in places where a few dozen Islamic terrorists, and civilians caught in the crossfire, were killed in firefights with Serbian police. There was no “ethnic cleansing” by the Serbian army, which includes thousands of Muslim soldiers. Reports that civilians were forced to vacate cities by evil Serbian police proved false; they fled because they were terrified as NATO aircraft unleashed hundreds of bombs over a three week period, killing 2000 civilians. This destroyed the Serbian economy and terrorized their government into submission, which resulted in a compromise in which Serbia retained sovereignty over its Kosovo province and agreed to allow NATO peacekeepers to occupy Kosovo on a temporary basis.

    As with the conquest of Iraq, it is uncertain why this conflict arose. Some think it was created by the powerful NATO bureaucracy to justify their post Cold war existence. Defense contractors made handsome profits though supplemental funding while contractors like Halliburton continue to pocket billions of dollars to support the occupation of Kosovo. Others claim it was a public relations gimmick by President Clinton, while a few think more sinister reasons were involved. Here is an excellent update on the present situation:

    THE NATIONAL POST (Canada) | 2004-04-06 |

    We bombed the wrong side?

    Major General Lewis MacKenzie – Armed Forces of Canada (retired)

    Five years ago our television screens were dominated by pictures of Kosovo…

    http://www.g2mil.com/Jun2004.htm

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  • Hamilton’s Rule. It’s our hard wiring.

    A couple hundred years of migration and integration hasn’t changed our hard wiring to care for and defend, those who look and act like we do. And fight, and repel, those who don’t look and act like we do.

    But the world is running out of time to find solutions to this state of nature, as 3rd world populations explode and the mean IQ of the planet is plummeting.

    WE SAVED THE CHILDREN …. and now they breed and don’t read. We are awash in worthless breeders in a world of diminishing resources, and mass extinctions.

    The economic music is slowing and there are not 7 billion chairs. The big losers will be low IQ black and brown people who still practice r reproductive strategies in a world with penicillin and vaccines. Their numbers cannot be justified … or contained.

    Tragically, very little can be done about low IQ – absent interbreeding. If that is a shocking statement, readers haven’t been paying attention to the volumes of new information on the human genome project and the limits to raising IQ or changing r reproductive habits in emerging countries.

    Add the racial component and Hamilton’s Rule – and we have the perfect storm for radical population reduction with suitcase nukes – designer CRISPER gene manipulation – or just old fashioned combat between races and ethnicities in a shrinking world.

    Everybody wants fewer people… the left wants fewer icky Wal Mart shoppers to match the numbers of Bangladishi’s who will perish. The right wants rid of all the icky brown people.

    But we are in agreement on ONE thing. If we want clean air, water, forests, rivers and open space – a whole lotta people have to go. Soon.

    I, myself, have more sympathy for a giraffe than a Masai. I want tigers, not Hindus, to populate the southern Himalayas. I have ZERO interest in the hopes and dreams of the barrio children of Rio.

    And yes – I’m a racist. An unapologetic racist. But so are my adversaries with dark skin.

    I don’t believe Western Civilization can be saved, absent a huge die off of low IQ 3rd world populations. The mean IQ of even American blacks is below that necessary for Democracy.

    Add 600 million Latinos to the south with a mean IQ of 85 – and constitutional government is finished. We are seeing the infiltration of our courts, legislatures, media and culture by low IQ populations whose ALLEGIANCE…. ie Hamilton’s Rule – is to their own, and not America, the Republic.

    We see Blacks and Latinos in the courts forgiving the LOW IQ behaviors of their “brethren”.

    AND we see the highest IQ citizens of the planet… Ashkenazi Jews – underwriting and advancing this sabotage of Western Culture – in , what is now, a failed evolutionary strategy to sabotage their nearest economic competitors… whites and Asians.

    The war on Trump – is the war on White Western Civilization by the dying DEEP STATE controlled by Ashkanazi Jews . Yes, Virginia…. is there anybody out there who still maintains that this enemy within isn’t at the heart of the culture wars.?????

    But now the stakes are way way out of control. Emerging Muslim political muscle has caused a rift between Jews who believe they can control the low IQ brown and black populations after crushing White Christian civilization…. and those who are frightened of the alliance of blacks, browns and ISLAM.

    The time is NOW for Jewry to take a side. A definitive side. Because we are kidding ourselves that the levers of government, media, banking and world commerce aren’t FIRMLY under the control of Jews. and ONLY JEWS…. but for the Oil Rich Middle East… which is proving to be more problematic than they anticipated.

    In a word… it’s shit or get off the pot time for Hersh and company. You will either side with White Western Civilization against the breeding illiterati…. or perish with us.

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    the highest IQ citizens of the planet… Ashkenazi Jews –
     
    Surely, the *disproof* of this thesis is WYSIWYG = all around, the world, supposedly dominated by Jews, is falling apart in most important directions, i.e. a planet mostly ruled by 'Western democratic' thieving tyrants, population numbers out of control with excess climate-killer CO2 moving in to slay Gaia = the until-now guardian of a liveable biosphere? A 2nd disproof is the illegitimate entity squatting in/on Palestine, what sort of 'smarts' is it that premeditatedly inflicts an alien invasion to implement land-theft via genocidal methods = the ultimate war-crime? Possible worst is their 'supremacy complex' which prevents them seeing any error until it's irretrievable, then let's hear "Der, I didn't think..."
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  • @anon
    I wrote months ago that the U.S, the EU, the Kiev provisional government and Russia should have met and then proposed a solution to Ukraine. They could have suggested a poll of Ukrainian citizens as to whether to split the country into East and West Ukrainian nations along the Dnieper, with built in provisions for free movement of people, finance and goods between the two countries for a specified period in order to ameliorate difficulties of transition. This would have maintained both countries' access to the Black Sea and eliminated the cause of Russia's occupation of Crimea, as well avoiding the subsequent trouble and bloodshed tearing the country apart and the increasing international tension it's causing.
    The Kiev government needs increased connection with the West, not the problem of governing half a country's worth of Russophiles in the east. There would be no great threat to the West by having an Eastern Ukraine bordering the Dnieper - the longer the East acceded to the mindset and demands of the kleptocracy that is Russia, especially as greener forms of energy take over, the worse it would look to both itself and others in comparison to West Ukraine, which would be well rid of it, and accelerating its own progress aided by its connections with the West.
    But this scenario would require political leadership instead of the standard bumbling and gamesmanship in response to each daily event.

    Perhaps Odessa (at least the southern-eastern part) should be joined with Transnistria to accomodate another area with strong Russian population.

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  • Tibet has been free since 1951.

    Serfs burning their serfdom papers.

    Of course, I don’t expect western propaganda ever mention such things.

    Dalai and his gang can go and rot in hell….

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  • Is Free Tibet – Tibetan self-determination movement – AUTHENTIC?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=144&v=QoLvSIXHLrQ

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  • “Self-determination is a class-defined issue; it is not a general moral-legal principle.” — Petras

    That seems clear enough on its face, but then, in his conclusion, Petras introduces “authenticity” into the mix:

    Capitalist ‘globalization’ is today’s greatest enemy to authentic self-determination.

    So it appears that we are right back in the moral-legal realm after all, under the heading of “authenticity.” Or, perhaps, under the mind-numbing category of “class-defined issues”?

    In effect, Petras does indeed apply a moral-legal principle: the principle of “authenticity.” Under this pretence, Petras essentially equates Kosovo and Tibet, going so far as to conflate the Dalai Lama with whatever “warlords” perhaps exist anywhere in the western regions claimed by the PRC.

    Not only is Petras’ BS an instance of guilt by association, the association exists nowhere but in Petras’ rhetoric — certainly not any place on the ground in Asia. Ah, but this is where Petras’ arch-villain comes in handy for his argument! Who knows whether there may be CIA operatives skulking around, spreading USD in places like Samarkand, setting up arms deals and the like? (Clearly, the Dalai Lams is involved in that, eh?) Thus Petras would pull off a trick of shifting the burden of proof: since the Dalai Lama never involved himself in Vietnam or Korea, then clearly the burden of proof is on those like myself, who question Petras’ grand narrative, to show that the Dalai Lama is anything other than a stooge of the arch-villain USA.

    Petras expects us to agree, categorically, that there is nothing authentic about “free Tibet” or about objections that the PRC’s occupation of Tibet is an instance of genocide, just as surely as was the campaign of the Japanese Empire to annex vast regions of China in WW2. But the truth is that the world doesn’t know that the “free Tibet” meme is in any way inauthentic … actually we recognize something authentic about it! Perhaps we can condemn the occupation of Palestine by Israel, but to also condemn the occupation of Tibet by China? No, no, no … nothing “authentic” about Tibetans’ desire for freedom from Chinese imperialism?

    https://www.freetibet.org/about-us

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  • It would seem that the average Ukrainian would tend to benefit from increasing trade with both Russia and the Western countries. Why mention only that “[t]he Kiev government needs increased connection with the West” without mentioning the benefit of trade with the Russian Federation?

    As for “kleptocracy”, that term would seem to describe both the Russian government and the US government, and its vast wasteful & crooked complex of “connected” military contractors, medical-insurance and pharma corporations, big union leadership, and the revolving door of think tanks and “media” outlets.

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    I wrote months ago that the U.S, the EU, the Kiev provisional government and Russia should have met and then proposed a solution to Ukraine. They could have suggested a poll of Ukrainian citizens as to whether to split the country into East and West Ukrainian nations along the Dnieper, with built in provisions for free movement of people, finance and goods between the two countries for a specified period in order to ameliorate difficulties of transition. This would have maintained both countries’ access to the Black Sea and eliminated the cause of Russia’s occupation of Crimea, as well avoiding the subsequent trouble and bloodshed tearing the country apart and the increasing international tension it’s causing.
    The Kiev government needs increased connection with the West, not the problem of governing half a country’s worth of Russophiles in the east. There would be no great threat to the West by having an Eastern Ukraine bordering the Dnieper – the longer the East acceded to the mindset and demands of the kleptocracy that is Russia, especially as greener forms of energy take over, the worse it would look to both itself and others in comparison to West Ukraine, which would be well rid of it, and accelerating its own progress aided by its connections with the West.
    But this scenario would require political leadership instead of the standard bumbling and gamesmanship in response to each daily event.

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  • Some time ago I wrote a book about one of the great crimes of the last 150 years: the conquest and exploitation of the Congo by King Leopold II of Belgium. When King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa was published, I thought I had found all the major...
  • @vinteuil
    "The movie, I was certain, would make viewers in multiplexes across the world realize at last that colonialism in Africa deserved to be ranked with Nazism and Soviet communism as one of the great totalitarian systems of modern times."

    So you were certain that the movie would convince people of something that isn't true?

    What happened in the Belgian Congo was pretty small potatoes, and very much an outlier, in the history of colonialism.

    What happened in the Congo was not small potatoes. It was one of the great crimes of history. However, it was definitely an outlier.

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  • From their plush apartments, over groaning dinner tables, pseudo-intellectuals have the luxury of depicting squalor and sickness as idyllic, primordially peaceful and harmonious. After all, when the affluent relinquish their earthly possessions to return to the simple life, it is always with aid of sophisticated technology and the option to be air-lifted to a hospital...
  • @Selvar
    Without a corresponding effort to increase the genetic capital and aggregate IQ of the average African population, the development caused by colonialism and Western investment in sub-Saharan Africa created the conditions for a massive dysgenic population explosion that will soon threaten to engulf Europe (if not the world). From this perspective, colonialism has had terrible long-term consequences.

    I also think it's possible to make the argument that, in a psychological and cultural sense at least, blacks were better off prior to the existence of AIDS and modern weaponry in Africa. Yes, many African customs are utterly barbaric by Western standards. However, keep in mind that Africans evolved such customs over tens of thousands of years. They were not necessarily unhappy or dissatisfied under them. Forcing modernity upon populations which did not evolve for it is often not beneficial for the population impacted, even if material improvements occur.

    It is also reasonable to note that modern wonderful white people had “utterly barbaric” customs not all that long ago. Slavery less than 150 years. The last person killed by the Inquisition 1826. Drawing and quartering 1782. Last witch burned 1727.

    These are (mostly) British dates. Remoter parts of Europe were a good deal worse.

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  • @Chris Bridges
    The simple truth is that most ordinary Africans were perfectly content to allow the European colonial powers to run their countries, as long as they were generally left alone to live their lives. When the shoe pinched - as it sometimes did - they pushed back but in most cases they were unconcerned with who was in the capital city and they had little day-to-day contact with whites. Life was slowly getting better for most people and that was enough. Almost without exception the trouble in African countries was caused by a tiny class of local malcontents who had been educated in Europe and figured out that by spouting slogans and collaborating with European liberal fools they could seize political power and enjoy the fruits of looting and plunder. A goodly number of these people were latent psychopaths, as they proved once they were in the presidential palace. That, in a nutshell, is the post-colonial history of Sub-Saharan Africa.

    That’s a pretty decent analysis of post-colonial SSA.

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  • our girl made the best tagelach

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  • @ANon
    Not all Oromos believe they were colonized. The Ethiopians are so intermarried and intermixed that it is difficult to mark the line. Hoewever some Ormos do believe that, but a significant part thinks they are part of Ethiopia, not a subordinate. The humiliation the Oromos have suffered cannot be justified,

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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    BTW, when did I ever object to or resist a proper forensic investigation of these sites? I fully support such a thing, it would resolve a lot of questions. Interesting that, some 75 years after "the best documented event in human history", nothing of the sort has ever been done. In Sturdy-Colls' "ground-breaking" investigation, the chief Rabbi of Poland (a New Yorker!), kept a watchful eye to alert them when they'd gone far enough. Her report resolves absolutely nothing.

    You distracted from such suggestion on my part and here you distract again with the overly broad ‘resisted’. Comment 73, though 63 in response to my 58 is the most obvious.

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  • @Surafel
    “Overall, American society is superior to assorted African and Arab societies because America is still inhabited by the kind of individuals who make possible a thriving civil society”

    This is very frightening to read when one comes from Africa. I thought this superior society was the one which is bombing others for no other reason than looting what they have and creating havoc– Libya, Iraq, Syria and others.

    Only a sick and retarded person would justify colonialism and its “achievements” in Africa. I wonder what an alien from another universe would think when he sees the brutalities and senseless killings being committed by humans on this planet (by people of European origin and Africans alike). It might think that he is seeing a zoo full of insensitive animals. I don’t know what you would say if these aliens colonize, humiliate and degrade you but bring you a sophisticated civilization.

    You are bragging about your civilization, but may I remind you that Africa has had its flowering civilization and culture for thousands of years when the Europeans were still crawling in their caves.

    Christianity has come to Ethiopia, 325 AC. The country has its own languages and written alphabet for thousands of years. This language is still being used as one of the official languages, is taught at school and is as good as any other language in Europe.
    Ethiopia has defied and defeated those who had tried to colonize and remained independent for more than three thousand years, so no development can be attributed to you or to colonialism.

    Yes, we were unfortunate to have hunger, starvation and a civil war, but were you really better off? Europe had also its plagues, a hundred and thirty year wars, the first and second world war, unless of course you choose to forget that. We are no different in that. It is a human nature.
    Yes, we have not invented the car, the plane, the tanks and the drones simply because we did not need them. We have weaved our own textile, tilled our land, melt our gold and silver for ornament, melted iron and produced tools, we have had our own astrology, maths, calendar etc., etc. You have not heard about them doesn’t mean that they have never existed. Nobody claimed glory or patent because the invention belonged to the people. Textile, pottery, leather products, you name it was and is still there
    Oh, and this bragging about your high IQ. IQ is about survival and not about solving some fancy mathematical problem or passing an aptitude test. You won’t survive a day with your 200 plus IQ in an African desert whereas a pygmy with an IQ of 70, according to your method attributing an intelligence to a human being, would.
    What you call magic medicines actually cured people, unlike yours which treats a person for life or make him/her dependent on big pharma. So, please give us a break!! Yes, we admit your achievements and nobody denies them, they have made our lives easier, but what about also admitting the achievements of others as well?

    How do you justify Abyssinian colonial rule of the Oromo tribes?

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  • @Truth
    Hey Cheers, Old Sport.

    I noticed your resume is getting longer, might I suggest your golf handicap, height (but only if at least 6-1), foreign languages spoken, and FIDE rating as supplemental additions?

    lulz just read yer comment. I don’t mind his self promotion. Dizzy Dean said, “It ain’t bragging if you can do it”

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