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    From the New York Times: Women’s March on Washington Opens Contentious Dialogues About Race By FARAH STOCKMAN JAN. 9, 2017 Many thousands of women are expected to converge on the nation’s capital for the Women’s March on Washington the day after Donald J. Trump’s inauguration. Jennifer Willis no longer plans to be one of them....
  • […] understand this and are doing their best to keep their “coalition of the fringes” from tearing each other’s throats out.  But like the Mosul dam, the cracks […]

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  • @Daniel Chieh
    For what it is worth, I'm an Asian and I give a damn about immigration. My ideas on welfare and entitlements are also not identical the average Democratic position.

    While I was the child of immigrants, they came in legally after numerous hurdles. They also did not take advantage of the system, and didn't get any benefits from it. Nonetheless, they managed to be successful enough that when I went to college, I couldn't have benefitted from any subsidies.

    I also was excluded from any minority programs for some reason, as they strictly defined it as "black, women, Hispanic, etc"; I remember finding it strange because there are fewer Asians than Hispanics, but Hispanics were protected.

    Probably the last straw was the fact that my brother with a perfect GPA was intentionally targeted and ultimately destroyed from his career by a "diverse" student association of Vietnamese and black women, for basically no reason, other than that he would have taken a quota spot away from them.

    I've had some unpleasant experiences with whites and racism, certainly. I mean, at one point I was pretty annoyed at the "what country are you from" questions and being called "sonny" a lot. But it never went as far as the vehemence that some of the Coalition of the Fringes would inflict.

    Some of those "racist" white men were genuinely pleasant and gentle souls - I remember one, a boss, trying to explain to me the importance of being a servant to the Lord even in his management style, and often basically picking up after us because it was the right thing to do, as he felt it. He was a poor fit in technology, a poor fit for this modern world, and ultimately couldn't survive the daily backstabbing of corporate life. But he was, despite anything else, a good person.

    Those of the Coalition of the Fringes that I knew? Good person is never a word I could use for them. They were screeching, entitled, and always angry. Whatever little privilege the old white men I knew had, they often had a strong sense of obligation and responsibility as well. Responsibility and SJWs are never aligned.

    Responsibility and SJWs are never aligned.

    Agreed. That’s the core of most SJW beliefs – no member of a victim group can ever be at fault. If a woman does something stupid it’s the fault of men. If a black commits a crime it’s the fault of white men. If a homosexual gets some horrible disease as a result of his promiscuous lifestyle it’s the fault of homophobia.

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  • @dfordoom

    So the only two issues that matter are church/state and rapacious resource extraction?

    Immigration, welfare, entitlements, education – all insignificant?
     
    If "a significant number of relatively affluent, educated, and not very religious whites (and Asians) drifts toward the Republican coalition" then those new "republican" voters aren't going to give a damn about immigration. And their views on welfare, entitlements and education will be identical to the Democrat position.

    What you're talking about is trying to attract liberals to the Republican Party. Liberals will never abandon their liberalism. Attracting liberals to the Republican Party will simply turn the Republican Party into another liberal party. It's one of the most wrong-headed misguided ideas I've ever heard.

    For what it is worth, I’m an Asian and I give a damn about immigration. My ideas on welfare and entitlements are also not identical the average Democratic position.

    While I was the child of immigrants, they came in legally after numerous hurdles. They also did not take advantage of the system, and didn’t get any benefits from it. Nonetheless, they managed to be successful enough that when I went to college, I couldn’t have benefitted from any subsidies.

    I also was excluded from any minority programs for some reason, as they strictly defined it as “black, women, Hispanic, etc”; I remember finding it strange because there are fewer Asians than Hispanics, but Hispanics were protected.

    Probably the last straw was the fact that my brother with a perfect GPA was intentionally targeted and ultimately destroyed from his career by a “diverse” student association of Vietnamese and black women, for basically no reason, other than that he would have taken a quota spot away from them.

    I’ve had some unpleasant experiences with whites and racism, certainly. I mean, at one point I was pretty annoyed at the “what country are you from” questions and being called “sonny” a lot. But it never went as far as the vehemence that some of the Coalition of the Fringes would inflict.

    Some of those “racist” white men were genuinely pleasant and gentle souls – I remember one, a boss, trying to explain to me the importance of being a servant to the Lord even in his management style, and often basically picking up after us because it was the right thing to do, as he felt it. He was a poor fit in technology, a poor fit for this modern world, and ultimately couldn’t survive the daily backstabbing of corporate life. But he was, despite anything else, a good person.

    Those of the Coalition of the Fringes that I knew? Good person is never a word I could use for them. They were screeching, entitled, and always angry. Whatever little privilege the old white men I knew had, they often had a strong sense of obligation and responsibility as well. Responsibility and SJWs are never aligned.

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    Responsibility and SJWs are never aligned.
     
    Agreed. That's the core of most SJW beliefs - no member of a victim group can ever be at fault. If a woman does something stupid it's the fault of men. If a black commits a crime it's the fault of white men. If a homosexual gets some horrible disease as a result of his promiscuous lifestyle it's the fault of homophobia.
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  • So the only two issues that matter are church/state and rapacious resource extraction?

    Immigration, welfare, entitlements, education – all insignificant?

    If “a significant number of relatively affluent, educated, and not very religious whites (and Asians) drifts toward the Republican coalition” then those new “republican” voters aren’t going to give a damn about immigration. And their views on welfare, entitlements and education will be identical to the Democrat position.

    What you’re talking about is trying to attract liberals to the Republican Party. Liberals will never abandon their liberalism. Attracting liberals to the Republican Party will simply turn the Republican Party into another liberal party. It’s one of the most wrong-headed misguided ideas I’ve ever heard.

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    For what it is worth, I'm an Asian and I give a damn about immigration. My ideas on welfare and entitlements are also not identical the average Democratic position.

    While I was the child of immigrants, they came in legally after numerous hurdles. They also did not take advantage of the system, and didn't get any benefits from it. Nonetheless, they managed to be successful enough that when I went to college, I couldn't have benefitted from any subsidies.

    I also was excluded from any minority programs for some reason, as they strictly defined it as "black, women, Hispanic, etc"; I remember finding it strange because there are fewer Asians than Hispanics, but Hispanics were protected.

    Probably the last straw was the fact that my brother with a perfect GPA was intentionally targeted and ultimately destroyed from his career by a "diverse" student association of Vietnamese and black women, for basically no reason, other than that he would have taken a quota spot away from them.

    I've had some unpleasant experiences with whites and racism, certainly. I mean, at one point I was pretty annoyed at the "what country are you from" questions and being called "sonny" a lot. But it never went as far as the vehemence that some of the Coalition of the Fringes would inflict.

    Some of those "racist" white men were genuinely pleasant and gentle souls - I remember one, a boss, trying to explain to me the importance of being a servant to the Lord even in his management style, and often basically picking up after us because it was the right thing to do, as he felt it. He was a poor fit in technology, a poor fit for this modern world, and ultimately couldn't survive the daily backstabbing of corporate life. But he was, despite anything else, a good person.

    Those of the Coalition of the Fringes that I knew? Good person is never a word I could use for them. They were screeching, entitled, and always angry. Whatever little privilege the old white men I knew had, they often had a strong sense of obligation and responsibility as well. Responsibility and SJWs are never aligned.

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    I would imagine if this comes to pass – let’s say a significant number of relatively affluent, educated, and not very religious whites (and Asians) drifts toward the Republican coalition – the Republicans will become less overtly religious, and maybe less overtly hostile to environmentalism.
     
    The Republicans will eventually become even more indistinguishable from the Democrats. That's not a victory.

    So the only two issues that matter are church/state and rapacious resource extraction?

    Immigration, welfare, entitlements, education – all insignificant?

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  • @Frau Katze
    I hope she's never coming to Canada because that's where I live.

    We already have a sufficient stock of leftist loons, thanks just the same.

    Mind you, our prime minister (Justin Trudeau) is a fool.

    I fully expect that if Trump does start deporting people, there will be a mad stampede to the Canadian border, saying they are "refugees" from the horrors of Trump-land.

    And I can just imagine Trudeau buying it. Or if he doesn't, they might try an illegal crossing.

    I have spent summers in Canada for 60+ years and I remember it as a nice white country that was proud to be part of the British Commonwealth. The decline started when Lester Pearson changed the flag to that awful maple leaf; my grandfather called it “Pearson’s pennant”. Trudeau the Elder accelerated the decline with his lefty multi-culturalism. I thought he was a ruthless bastard, but I think even he would be amazed at what an empty-headed pretty boy moron his son Justin is. He makes BHO look good.

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  • @Mr. Anon
    "We’ll see what happens. I’ve been reading stories about how one party or the other is dead after every major upset. 2, 4, or 6 years later they sweep back and now the other party is dead."

    True. And demographic trends still favor the Democrats.

    True. And demographic trends still favor the Democrats.

    In the short- and possibly medium-term. Long-term points to a fundamental change in the country’s politics.

    The country changed fundamentally after the first big wave of Central/Eastern/Southern European immigration from 1880-1920, but that was part of a big increase in European and founding stock American populations anyway. We were inevitably headed toward a more national-level political culture away from the state-level regional culture pre-Civil War. Think of small-town and county-level politics as an echo of that America.

    This new wave of largely non-European immigration will change the governing relationship between the citizen and the State that is hard to predict. Some of the new arrivals have no problem culturally with a strong, authoritarian central government (Russians, Chinese, Latins, Hindus), but others not as much (tribal Middle Easterners).

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  • @anon

    That 53% will not have a meaningful behind it commitment, nor will it grow, until White men man up.
     
    It might work the other way round.

    I think the undermining of western ethnic/national consciousness was brought about by the media's use of empathy based manipulation (films like "To Kill a Mockingbird" and filtering the news) so I wonder if it wasn't more that white men "manned down" in response to female pressure. If so then if white women finally figure out they've been conned all these years by the media the pressure might reverse.

    if white women finally figure out they’ve been conned all these years by the media the pressure might reverse.

    It already did about ten years ago. It’s why the red pill stuff arose – men figuring out that women weren’t interested in suckers anymore.

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  • @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Not me. I would prefer separate countries for each nationality/race/ethnic group. Doesn't mean I hate other groups; I just prefer my own.

    I hate white SJWs, but, in the end, they are family. Black conservatives are not.

    Besides, there's regression to the mean. Sooner or later, the children, nieces, nephews and so on of black conservatives will regress to black means in intelligence and violence.

    We're all happier living among our own. It's natural, not hateful. I wish blacks well. I just don't want to live with them.

    Not me. I would prefer separate countries for each nationality/race/ethnic group. Doesn’t mean I hate other groups; I just prefer my own.

    I agree with that. The ideal would be separate countries for each nationality/race/ethnic group, and a separate country for SJWs.

    I sure as hell don’t want any SJWs at all in my country. None. The incompatibility between SJWs and normal people is more extreme than the incompatibilities between races. Put SJWs in their own country and build a really really big wall along the border.

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  • @Dr. X

    As for the altright, what exactly do Falangists, people who want to bring back the Ancien Regime with Catholicism as a state religion (I.e. marine le pen or people who want to bring back the romanovs and the rest of the nrx), and libertarians or anarcho capitalists have in common anyway? I mean has anyone seen the graphic of how diverse and disparate the ideologies of the altright are?
     
    That's a really, really excellent question!

    The short answer is, simply, that the common thread between Falangists, nationalists, libertarians and anarcho-capitalists is opposition to global socialism and globalist racial egalitarianism, which is really a form of communism. And although contemporary "soft communism" doesn't (yet) have Soviet-style gulags, it is plenty totalitarian when it comes to policing speech, disseminating propaganda, and enforcing the "proper" attitudes as a condition of employment and social status.

    Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists might have plenty to bitch about under a truly alt-right nationalist government, but since no such thing really exists that's not the issue today. Libertarians can't stand getting global socialist egalitarianism and political correctness and constant hectoring about speech crimes and thought crimes crammed down their throats by the left-wing State any more than cultural/racial nationalists can stand it.

    The short answer is, simply, that the common thread between Falangists, nationalists, libertarians and anarcho-capitalists is opposition to global socialism and globalist racial egalitarianism, which is really a form of communism.

    Where does that leave those of us who see global capitalism as an equally menacing threat?

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  • @Massimo Heitor

    Blacks ruin everything they touch and will drive away non-blacks from the left and the Democrat party.
     
    Just about everyone here would prefer black conservatives to ultra left whites. And black conservatives are minorities among blacks, there are more than a few of them.

    Just about everyone here would prefer black conservatives to ultra left whites.

    Yup.

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  • @biz
    This could be one of the most important political developments of the next 20 years. While much is rightly made of the white working class being driven away from the Democrats, there could be a lot of cultural and political fallout if and when SWPLs (as distinct from hardcore SJWs) also start to leave.

    Already we see the beginnings of people who in a previous era would be natural liberals being pushed out and/or leaving the ideological left and in many cases the Democratic party. Early examples are Dave Rubin and Sam Harris. Look for dissident academics such as Steve Pinker, Jerry Coyne, and Jonathan Haidt to be the next batch of high profile liberal exits from the Left.

    For many of these people their strongest connection to liberalism is/was opposition to the religious right. But nowadays some blowhard creationist bumpkin in a trailer park just doesn't seem that threatening when compared against the agents of hardcore Jihad. And with these people feeling literal, explicit hatred in the academy and the mediasphere for being stale, pale, and male, I don't think they're masochistic enough to stick around for the abuse for too long.

    Outside of the academy, there are probably a lot of otherwise well-behaved and mild-mannered knowledge economy workers who will be forced to sit through one too many diversity seminars.

    I would imagine if this comes to pass - let's say a significant number of relatively affluent, educated, and not very religious whites (and Asians) drifts toward the Republican coalition - the Republicans will become less overtly religious, and maybe less overtly hostile to environmentalism. Upper middle class SWPLs are probably not that ideologically invested in food stamps, Head Start, or even abortion when it comes down to it, but they really don't want their kids being taught creationism in school or seeing oil rigs in National Parks.

    I would imagine if this comes to pass – let’s say a significant number of relatively affluent, educated, and not very religious whites (and Asians) drifts toward the Republican coalition – the Republicans will become less overtly religious, and maybe less overtly hostile to environmentalism.

    The Republicans will eventually become even more indistinguishable from the Democrats. That’s not a victory.

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    So the only two issues that matter are church/state and rapacious resource extraction?

    Immigration, welfare, entitlements, education - all insignificant?
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  • @Ivy
    Opera and choirs, with selected groups from across flyover country, too. Many kids in years past enjoyed singing in elementary school and learned a little history and culture in the process. Some non-PC old standards would reinforce the new Administration tone.

    I think it would be a fabulous night if there were many, many choirs (youth/HS/university/service academies/Men’s/Women’s/prison choirs, performing at the Inauguration. I think the human voice in a choir, performing on a big stage, is a staggeringly beautiful thing.

    And, I read Jack’s response, and bag pipes are always cool :). In fact, there could be some international flavor by having music performances/choirs from the many ethnic groups/nationalities in this country. My grandpa sang in a Men’s Choir his entire life…in a kinda’ Freemasons choir.

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  • @Daniel Chieh
    I actually suspect its to our strength that we have no focused issues. Unlike, say, the liberal left which could focused down on a single issue such as same-sex marriages and then disband because they've accomplished their goal, the nebulous boundaries mean that the alt-right basically form a steady subgroup that is united more by a hazy set of ideas and common rejection of liberal shibboleths.

    On top of it is the actual construction of a rival set of norms, spaces and culture. It looks a much stronger contender for power than say, the Religious Right or the Moral Majority ever could be.

    exactly, and I agree. It is better to be a large group of people with wildly different views (like on this blog), who like to throw ideas around, challenge each other, for example, than let “progressives” define who we are. It is fascinating to see Progs cite alt-right but have no idea what it is. The hilarious thing is, not one person I know who is not a Prog, finds the term, “alt-right,” sort of nebulous or just not correct, just not the right label for them. Labels are starting to fail…and I am so happy about that. My point was, the “ we all have time to think now, time to define,” how we really feel about issues since HRC is out.

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  • @Harry Baldwin
    To quote Houellebecq, "If the human species has any ability to adapt, this is due entirely to the intellectual plasticity of women."

    Nice pull.

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  • @Daniel Chieh
    Why am I here, half of you probably want me to kill myself.

    Truly, it is the enemies that drive you to build new friendships. Or tenuous allies, at any rate.

    Truly, it is the enemies that drive you to build new friendships. Or tenuous allies, at any rate.

    Amen, brother.

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  • @Jim Don Bob
    Whoopi Goldberg, professional Negress, said about Polanski that it wasn't rape rape. A true statement because after Polanski fed the 13 year old champagne and qualudes, he took her anally despite her protestations, so it wasn't actually rape rape.

    http://jezebel.com/5369395/whoopi-on-roman-polanski-it-wasnt-rape-rape

    Remind me again when Whoopi is leaving for Canada.

    I hope she’s never coming to Canada because that’s where I live.

    We already have a sufficient stock of leftist loons, thanks just the same.

    Mind you, our prime minister (Justin Trudeau) is a fool.

    I fully expect that if Trump does start deporting people, there will be a mad stampede to the Canadian border, saying they are “refugees” from the horrors of Trump-land.

    And I can just imagine Trudeau buying it. Or if he doesn’t, they might try an illegal crossing.

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    I have spent summers in Canada for 60+ years and I remember it as a nice white country that was proud to be part of the British Commonwealth. The decline started when Lester Pearson changed the flag to that awful maple leaf; my grandfather called it "Pearson's pennant". Trudeau the Elder accelerated the decline with his lefty multi-culturalism. I thought he was a ruthless bastard, but I think even he would be amazed at what an empty-headed pretty boy moron his son Justin is. He makes BHO look good.
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  • @Frau Katze
    Yes, I have noticed that the Hollywood crowd seems not terribly hard on Polanski.

    I didn't know that about Streep. That needs to be publicized — but it won't be.

    They're complete hypocrites.

    Whoopi Goldberg, professional Negress, said about Polanski that it wasn’t rape rape. A true statement because after Polanski fed the 13 year old champagne and qualudes, he took her anally despite her protestations, so it wasn’t actually rape rape.

    http://jezebel.com/5369395/whoopi-on-roman-polanski-it-wasnt-rape-rape

    Remind me again when Whoopi is leaving for Canada.

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    I hope she's never coming to Canada because that's where I live.

    We already have a sufficient stock of leftist loons, thanks just the same.

    Mind you, our prime minister (Justin Trudeau) is a fool.

    I fully expect that if Trump does start deporting people, there will be a mad stampede to the Canadian border, saying they are "refugees" from the horrors of Trump-land.

    And I can just imagine Trudeau buying it. Or if he doesn't, they might try an illegal crossing.
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  • @Jefferson
    “You should be reading our books and understanding the roots of racism and white supremacy. Listening to our speeches. You should be drowning yourselves in our poetry.”

    Once you have listened to 1 Black poem, you have listened to them all. They all sound like this.

    https://youtu.be/kga2soqvMF0

    It’s been remarked here before just how few black creative types and intellectuals exist whose work is about anything other than being black. Mediocrity though he may be, I at least give Neil deGrasse Tyson credit for having a rather larger focus of interest.

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  • @Daniel Chieh
    Why am I here, half of you probably want me to kill myself.

    Truly, it is the enemies that drive you to build new friendships. Or tenuous allies, at any rate.

    I don’t. The last thing we need is on the right is for whites to start fighting with each other based on nationality. Or to pick on non-whites who typically make good immigrants.

    But the “alt-right” is no more unified than the left.

    So far, however, it doesn’t get expressed, except in the comment sections of alt-right blogs.

    On the whole, the right as a whole doesn’t go in for mass marches and demonstrations. They’re very much a left thing.

    This blog isn’t as bad as some. Some do resent Jews, with the stupid triple bracket thing. That seems be as virulent it gets on this site.

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  • @Mr. Anon
    "I’m not even sure what they’re protesting. I thought it was something to do with Trump’s alleged behaviour toward women. But leftists didn’t seem to have any problem with Bill Clinton."

    The outrage of the left is highly selective. Meryl Streep used her podium at the Golden Globes as a pulpit to inveigh against Donald Trump. And yet, somebody dug up video of her from 2003, at the Oscars, giving a standing ovation to child-rapist Roman Polanski.

    Yes, I have noticed that the Hollywood crowd seems not terribly hard on Polanski.

    I didn’t know that about Streep. That needs to be publicized — but it won’t be.

    They’re complete hypocrites.

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    Whoopi Goldberg, professional Negress, said about Polanski that it wasn't rape rape. A true statement because after Polanski fed the 13 year old champagne and qualudes, he took her anally despite her protestations, so it wasn't actually rape rape.

    http://jezebel.com/5369395/whoopi-on-roman-polanski-it-wasnt-rape-rape

    Remind me again when Whoopi is leaving for Canada.

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  • @Patrick Harris
    Low-level nastiness to "gingers" seems to be, or once was, a feature of U.K. culture, though I doubt it seriously impacts anyone's life chances. I've never seen any sign of it here.

    The ginger women I have known were a lot of fun. RCH and all that.

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  • @Ivy
    Opera and choirs, with selected groups from across flyover country, too. Many kids in years past enjoyed singing in elementary school and learned a little history and culture in the process. Some non-PC old standards would reinforce the new Administration tone.

    Border Patrol Pipes and Drums is leading the parade.

    An ominous sign of things to come (for illegal aliens).

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  • @Citizen of a Silly Country
    At some point, Nice White Ladies will realize that race trumps gender (and everything else). When they do, they'll turn on a dime. Most women don't have deep political attachments. It's mostly fashion for them.

    I'd suspect that upper middle class women from the South understand this much better than Northern women, but that's just a guess.

    To quote Houellebecq, “If the human species has any ability to adapt, this is due entirely to the intellectual plasticity of women.”

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  • @Jefferson
    "it is notable that the GOP leaders of the past opposed Trump and in fact worked to elect Hillary. But I suspect it may have helped Trump when the Bush clan , along with many notable necons, decided to support Hillary."

    Among the Republicans who are Never Trumpers, the vast majority of them were never real Conservatives to begin with. There are tweets and articles showing that Rick Wilson, Jennifer Rubin, and Evan McMullin for example were already bashing The GOP as The White Party long before Donald J. Trump officially announced he was running for POTUS.

    As absurd as it may be for the New York Times to have as its house conservative David Brooks, the Washington Post does them one better with Jennifer Rubin. But perhaps it’s six of one, half a dozen of the other; I can’t recall either of them proposing a strong conservative argument for anything.

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  • You can see the brilliance of the Left getting dose White wimmens to shut they mouth soze monosyllabic buffoons can take the mic. That’s brilliant! Couldn’t have done better myself.

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  • @Jefferson
    "I dunno, but I do know there are a Hell of a lot more blacks east of the Mississippi.Have you ever lived east of the Mississippi?"

    Where you live Non Immigrant Black women still work as hotel maids?

    That’s how it is in St Louis.

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  • @Lagertha
    BUT. With Melania, American media can't go full out and say: "Europeans are xenophobes" since she is.... inconveniently, a former Soviet , suppressed country citizen, snap . Also, Eu elections and "state elections" are coming up, so, calling any Europeans racist, is risky/more like never-gonna-work, will actually, backfire.

    OT kinda' : My wish is: Trump goes full-out high Opera with his inaugural: Pick Carmina Burana. Why not the the fantastic choirs in all of our Uni's and the Armed Forces. Also, there are really good choirs in like, little Finland.

    Opera and choirs, with selected groups from across flyover country, too. Many kids in years past enjoyed singing in elementary school and learned a little history and culture in the process. Some non-PC old standards would reinforce the new Administration tone.

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    Border Patrol Pipes and Drums is leading the parade.

    An ominous sign of things to come (for illegal aliens).
    , @Lagertha
    I think it would be a fabulous night if there were many, many choirs (youth/HS/university/service academies/Men's/Women's/prison choirs, performing at the Inauguration. I think the human voice in a choir, performing on a big stage, is a staggeringly beautiful thing.

    And, I read Jack's response, and bag pipes are always cool :). In fact, there could be some international flavor by having music performances/choirs from the many ethnic groups/nationalities in this country. My grandpa sang in a Men's Choir his entire life...in a kinda' Freemasons choir.
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  • @Mike Zwick
    Two of the best thing that can happen to Donald Trump in the next four years are for the economy to improve and for people to keep asking whites to check their privilege.

    New TV show idea to facilitate enjoyable four years:
    Real Housewives of DC Marches

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  • @biz
    This could be one of the most important political developments of the next 20 years. While much is rightly made of the white working class being driven away from the Democrats, there could be a lot of cultural and political fallout if and when SWPLs (as distinct from hardcore SJWs) also start to leave.

    Already we see the beginnings of people who in a previous era would be natural liberals being pushed out and/or leaving the ideological left and in many cases the Democratic party. Early examples are Dave Rubin and Sam Harris. Look for dissident academics such as Steve Pinker, Jerry Coyne, and Jonathan Haidt to be the next batch of high profile liberal exits from the Left.

    For many of these people their strongest connection to liberalism is/was opposition to the religious right. But nowadays some blowhard creationist bumpkin in a trailer park just doesn't seem that threatening when compared against the agents of hardcore Jihad. And with these people feeling literal, explicit hatred in the academy and the mediasphere for being stale, pale, and male, I don't think they're masochistic enough to stick around for the abuse for too long.

    Outside of the academy, there are probably a lot of otherwise well-behaved and mild-mannered knowledge economy workers who will be forced to sit through one too many diversity seminars.

    I would imagine if this comes to pass - let's say a significant number of relatively affluent, educated, and not very religious whites (and Asians) drifts toward the Republican coalition - the Republicans will become less overtly religious, and maybe less overtly hostile to environmentalism. Upper middle class SWPLs are probably not that ideologically invested in food stamps, Head Start, or even abortion when it comes down to it, but they really don't want their kids being taught creationism in school or seeing oil rigs in National Parks.

    Fake stereotype much (creationist, bumpkin, trailer)? Geez can you not be more original than that. Do you even know one person who believes in God?

    If what you say will happen you’ll just be back to having two liberal parties.

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  • @Barnard
    This is the first I had heard of not having red hair being a sign of privilege. Also, what is a standard accent? What would be an example of a non standard one? They must have been desperate to fill in spaces on their bingo card.

    This is the first I had heard of not having red hair being a sign of privilege. Also, what is a standard accent?

    A “core” or “non-fringy” accent.

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  • @tsotha
    Sure, but that's not the point. The point is there are only two genders, so if women are voting heavily for Democrats, Republicans can't be competitive unless men are voting Republican by similar margins.

    Maybe this conundrum underlies the efforts to pretend there are fifteen genders (or whatever the number is today).

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  • @Jefferson
    “You should be reading our books and understanding the roots of racism and white supremacy. Listening to our speeches. You should be drowning yourselves in our poetry.”

    Once you have listened to 1 Black poem, you have listened to them all. They all sound like this.

    https://youtu.be/kga2soqvMF0

    Yes.

    Black poetry nowadays is pretty much all the same.

    “Yakety yak (Don’t talk back)
    ‘Cause I’m blackety black.”

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  • White privilege is a silly idea since whatever you can say about white privilege is even more true of Asian privilege, not to mention Jewish privilege.

    In the end it’s really IQ Privilege. IQ Privilege exists… but if you try and get rid of it (either on purpose, or Detroit Style) civilization collapses.

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  • @George
    Is discrimination against red heads real? Are red heads really less privileged?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Prejudice_and_discrimination_against_redheads

    Low-level nastiness to “gingers” seems to be, or once was, a feature of U.K. culture, though I doubt it seriously impacts anyone’s life chances. I’ve never seen any sign of it here.

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  • @Mr. Anon
    I think it would help the cause of women's solidarity if the feminists of color asked the white feminists to fetch them some coffee, there's a good girl.

    Black coffee, of course; cream and sugar represent intrusive white privilege.

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  • The convoluted language of the left is used to facilitate a convoluted logic, so dissecting these articles is like shooting ducks in a barrel. Still, it’s fun to read.

    As to the privilege bingo, “Not a red-head” ? What’s with that?

    And speaking of negative qualifiers, I notice they don’t use a “not a ____” approach in any of the other bingo squares because it would illustrate all of the common ways that status is lowered for white people. For example, they say, “standard accent” instead of:

    - not a Southern accent
    - not a Queens or Bronx accent
    - not a Boston accent
    - not a Chicago (Great Lakes) accent (

    )

    They say “Christian,” but don’t say:

    - not a Catholic (less debilitating to status than it used to be)
    - not a Southern evangelical (far more debilitating to status than it used to be)
    - not Eastern Orthodox

    They also don’t say:

    - not a farmer
    - not from a town of less than 10,000 people
    - not from Appalachia
    - not a coal miner

    …and so on.

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  • @George
    Is discrimination against red heads real? Are red heads really less privileged?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Prejudice_and_discrimination_against_redheads

    Evidently yes. Weird as heck, to me. My wife, who is French-Irish herself, told me that she hoped gingers will be extinct soon: “They are crazy. They are angry-crazy. Something is wrong with them.” Then she referred to the black sheep sister of her family as proof.

    My guess is that the prejudice is very limited to very specific groups who have formed such stereotypes. My wife is mostly French with only slight Irish heritage, so it might have been a Continent mindset.

    I suppose if there any reality to the stereotype, though, might come from possibly some correlation of alcoholism? That always seemed to be the bane of her family.

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  • @BenKenobi
    This is delicious. And it's happening to the most deserving people: Nice White Ladies.

    I thought we were all supposed to be buddies here at The End of History. But no, it's all "back-of-the-bus, Whitey."

    I hope they continue to alienate their White "Allies" -- we're not polarized enough yet. 53% of White women seem to understand already, and I feel that number will continue to grow

    Continue to alienate their white “allies” – You mean, like the below:

    From a Black Lives Matter organizer / leader (Ashleigh Shackelford) “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”

    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, Let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?

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  • @Whiskey
    This is awesome, I never ever thought I'd see this -- the non-Whites actively pushing out their major power center, Nice White Ladies.

    Its also hilarious to see Nice White Ladies get the treatment that I as a White man get. Its just so funny.

    It was a failure of my imagination to see it, too focused on the past and expecting a linear progression rather than a discontinuous function that abruptly breaks. Think the carrying capacity of the arctic for lemmings.

    Yes, Black and Latinx activists or what have you are maybe on average just one step above Vesper Lee Flanagan or THEY in the ability to avoid stupidity and venting to keep allies on side.

    This is breaking out all over. OUT: Barbara Boxer, Hillary, Harry Reid (and even if they don't know it yet, Liawatha/Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer). IN: Keith Ellison X, Maxine Waters, Genius T. Coates, and THEY.

    Not exactly a genius assemblage. And this group will surely alienate their Nice White Lady allies just for the feelz. The ability to dominate. And that is what Democratic Politics offer at its core -- the ability of the various groups to dominate Whites. That used to be just White men, see how the Nice White Ladies like say, Megyn Kelly reflexively side with non-White activists and despise Donald Trump. [This alone explains the Cuckservative movement -- beta males which is 90% of White men attempting vainly to placate their angry women.]

    Now that its White women, eventually even Megyn Kelly will be replaced by say, that actress from "Precious" or some other woman of color who is "thinly challenged." [F.A.T.]

    Opportunity for fun -- register as some "person of color" and abuse Nice White Ladies for not checking their privilege and opening IRAs (Individual Reparation Accounts to pay Black people for the original sin of being born White. Or something.)

    Figured that this would be right up your alley. I’ll give you credit for pointing out the Nice White Lady problem long before any of the rest of us thought about it.

    However, the next big question relates to the group that you seem loathe to even acknowledge, much less criticize: Jews. Are blacks and THEY stupid enough or just unaware enough to start pushing back against liberal (most) Jews? I suppose in one sense they already are. I mean, if you start demanding positions of power in the Democratic Party, you’re going to force out a number of Jews due to their over representation at the top.

    At what point do Jews, like Nice White Ladies, realize that they’re not going to get a Victim Pass from blacks and THEM, that blacks and Hispanics and the others will consider Jews as whites regardless of the clever arguments that they aren’t?

    The Dems would like to keep Nice White Ladies, but the Dems NEED Jewish money, organization and influence. Lose the Jews and it’s over for the Dems. At what point do Jews start fearing real blacks and Hispanics more than mystical Nazis?

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  • @Barnard
    This is the first I had heard of not having red hair being a sign of privilege. Also, what is a standard accent? What would be an example of a non standard one? They must have been desperate to fill in spaces on their bingo card.

    I am pretty bald and would prefer a full head of red hair than nothing at this point!! Hey…Victim points for me, me!!

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  • @Jefferson
    "A young white woman from Baltimore wrote with bitterness that white women who might have been victims of rape and abuse"

    Blacks outnumber Whites in Baltimore, so I bet the majority of White female rape victims in that city were sexually assaulted by Black men.

    "were being “asked to check their privilege,”

    "That phrase — check your privilege — exasperates Ms. Willis. She asked a reporter: “Can you please tell me what that means?”

    White feminists are just now finding out in 2017 that when People Of Color say White privilege they are not limiting it to only White men.

    Yep. Nice White Ladies thought that they would get praised by blacks for helping them. They are in for a surprise.

    Nice White Ladies live in a bubble without realizing it. If that bubble is punctured, they will not be happy.

    Fun to watch.

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  • @Mr. Anon
    "We’ll see what happens. I’ve been reading stories about how one party or the other is dead after every major upset. 2, 4, or 6 years later they sweep back and now the other party is dead."

    True. And demographic trends still favor the Democrats.

    Yep. Bit by bit, it will be harder and harder for a Republican to win the presidency. Of course, before Trump, who the hell cared. The GOP was just as bad as the Dems on the only issue that matters: Immigration.

    At the end of the, you could cut immigration tomorrow, and we’d still be screwed. Whites a slight minority of births. A Brazil-like future is already baked in the pie. It’s more a question of how bad it’s going to get.

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  • @Bernie
    Blacks ruin everything they touch and will drive away non-blacks from the left and the Democrat party.

    At some point, Nice White Ladies will realize that race trumps gender (and everything else). When they do, they’ll turn on a dime. Most women don’t have deep political attachments. It’s mostly fashion for them.

    I’d suspect that upper middle class women from the South understand this much better than Northern women, but that’s just a guess.

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  • @Massimo Heitor

    Blacks ruin everything they touch and will drive away non-blacks from the left and the Democrat party.
     
    Just about everyone here would prefer black conservatives to ultra left whites. And black conservatives are minorities among blacks, there are more than a few of them.

    Not me. I would prefer separate countries for each nationality/race/ethnic group. Doesn’t mean I hate other groups; I just prefer my own.

    I hate white SJWs, but, in the end, they are family. Black conservatives are not.

    Besides, there’s regression to the mean. Sooner or later, the children, nieces, nephews and so on of black conservatives will regress to black means in intelligence and violence.

    We’re all happier living among our own. It’s natural, not hateful. I wish blacks well. I just don’t want to live with them.

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    Not me. I would prefer separate countries for each nationality/race/ethnic group. Doesn’t mean I hate other groups; I just prefer my own.

     

    I agree with that. The ideal would be separate countries for each nationality/race/ethnic group, and a separate country for SJWs.

    I sure as hell don't want any SJWs at all in my country. None. The incompatibility between SJWs and normal people is more extreme than the incompatibilities between races. Put SJWs in their own country and build a really really big wall along the border.
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  • @Polynikes
    That would be the block that sends their coalition crumbling, at least nationally. Pulling 5% or so more white ladies, especially young ones, would hurt national democratic candidates in a way that would be hard to compensate for with more minority turnout (as documented in this blog).

    If I were a wealthy Republican financier and/strategist I’d be pumping money to these black and Latin groups that babble about white privilege, or whatever…..tell them to amp it up 1000 pc…..

    You’ll dampen that output among whites by a tenth to a third.

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  • @Opinionator
    53% of White women seem to understand already, and I feel that number will continue to grow

    Women need to be able to join a strong and secure group. That number is so low--actually--because White men have abdicated their responsibility for maintaining collective strength. That 53% will not have a meaningful behind it commitment, nor will it grow, until White men man up.

    In response to that I shall refer you to the St Crispin’s Day Speech from Henry V.

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Opinionator
    53% of White women seem to understand already, and I feel that number will continue to grow

    Women need to be able to join a strong and secure group. That number is so low--actually--because White men have abdicated their responsibility for maintaining collective strength. That 53% will not have a meaningful behind it commitment, nor will it grow, until White men man up.

    That 53% will not have a meaningful behind it commitment, nor will it grow, until White men man up.

    It might work the other way round.

    I think the undermining of western ethnic/national consciousness was brought about by the media’s use of empathy based manipulation (films like “To Kill a Mockingbird” and filtering the news) so I wonder if it wasn’t more that white men “manned down” in response to female pressure. If so then if white women finally figure out they’ve been conned all these years by the media the pressure might reverse.

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    if white women finally figure out they’ve been conned all these years by the media the pressure might reverse.
     
    It already did about ten years ago. It's why the red pill stuff arose - men figuring out that women weren't interested in suckers anymore.
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  • @jjxjx
    As for the altright, what exactly do Falangists, people who want to bring back the Ancien Regime with Catholicism as a state religion (I.e. marine le pen or people who want to bring back the romanovs and the rest of the nrx), and libertarians or anarcho capitalists have in common anyway? I mean has anyone seen the graphic of how diverse and disparate the ideologies of the altright are?

    the dominant culture, enforced by media/academia, is already explicitly anti-white and becoming more so every year

    on current trends my future grand-children have no future

    so…

    the world needs to be re-arranged so that possible future is no longer possible

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  • @Jefferson
    “You should be reading our books and understanding the roots of racism and white supremacy. Listening to our speeches. You should be drowning yourselves in our poetry.”

    Once you have listened to 1 Black poem, you have listened to them all. They all sound like this.

    https://youtu.be/kga2soqvMF0

    Is this a parody? It is so hard to tell these days.

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  • I hope they keep this up.

    I have some Facebook friends who are so dense they not only eat all this stuff up, they don’t even notice when it changes. The more they try to conform to the views that they believe they are expected to have, the stupider they make themselves. Orwell documented this process well, and it is horrifying, but the only way many people can learn they were wrong is by hitting bottom (that is, reaching contradictions so obvious it is no longer possible to ignore them). The people who are not capable of such learning are doomed to be ground to dust between the gears of political correctness, and I won’t shed many tears for them.

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  • @Frau Katze

    ...demographic trends still favor the Democrats.
     
    True. But for some reason or other, I find this story encouraging.

    I was formerly a leftist myself (more from family background than anything else) but after reading around in the aftermath of 9/11 I fairly quickly started to rethink it.

    I had no idea how nutty and extreme these people could be. This just adds to it. Yes, they're even worse than I thought.

    I'm not even sure what they're protesting. I thought it was something to do with Trump's alleged behaviour toward women. But leftists didn't seem to have any problem with Bill Clinton.

    “I’m not even sure what they’re protesting. I thought it was something to do with Trump’s alleged behaviour toward women. But leftists didn’t seem to have any problem with Bill Clinton.”

    The outrage of the left is highly selective. Meryl Streep used her podium at the Golden Globes as a pulpit to inveigh against Donald Trump. And yet, somebody dug up video of her from 2003, at the Oscars, giving a standing ovation to child-rapist Roman Polanski.

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    Yes, I have noticed that the Hollywood crowd seems not terribly hard on Polanski.

    I didn't know that about Streep. That needs to be publicized — but it won't be.

    They're complete hypocrites.
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  • anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. X
    Trump has never said a word against blacks. (In fact, he did a bit of pandering to them with his Detroit church visit during the campaign.)

    And Trump has never said anything against women, either. He only said that if you're a celebrity "they let you grab them by the pussy."

    So why are blacks and women upset at Trump? Because both groups know that Trump is immune to politically-correct bullshit and childish whining, and consequently they fear that the free ride on the Federal gravy train might be coming to an end.

    Always follow the money.

    So why are blacks and women upset at Trump?

    Because the media are manipulating them.

    Because both groups know that Trump is immune to politically-correct bullshit and childish whining, and consequently they fear that the free ride on the Federal gravy train might be coming to an end.

    Because the people who own the media profit from open borders and off-shoring.

    Always follow the money.

    Quite.

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  • @countenance
    The WaPo's slick mag ran this cover about this march:

    https://countenance.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/express_cover.jpg

    Whoops.

    if i was in charge of that cover i’d have done it deliberately for the lulz

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  • @Whiskey
    This is awesome, I never ever thought I'd see this -- the non-Whites actively pushing out their major power center, Nice White Ladies.

    Its also hilarious to see Nice White Ladies get the treatment that I as a White man get. Its just so funny.

    It was a failure of my imagination to see it, too focused on the past and expecting a linear progression rather than a discontinuous function that abruptly breaks. Think the carrying capacity of the arctic for lemmings.

    Yes, Black and Latinx activists or what have you are maybe on average just one step above Vesper Lee Flanagan or THEY in the ability to avoid stupidity and venting to keep allies on side.

    This is breaking out all over. OUT: Barbara Boxer, Hillary, Harry Reid (and even if they don't know it yet, Liawatha/Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer). IN: Keith Ellison X, Maxine Waters, Genius T. Coates, and THEY.

    Not exactly a genius assemblage. And this group will surely alienate their Nice White Lady allies just for the feelz. The ability to dominate. And that is what Democratic Politics offer at its core -- the ability of the various groups to dominate Whites. That used to be just White men, see how the Nice White Ladies like say, Megyn Kelly reflexively side with non-White activists and despise Donald Trump. [This alone explains the Cuckservative movement -- beta males which is 90% of White men attempting vainly to placate their angry women.]

    Now that its White women, eventually even Megyn Kelly will be replaced by say, that actress from "Precious" or some other woman of color who is "thinly challenged." [F.A.T.]

    Opportunity for fun -- register as some "person of color" and abuse Nice White Ladies for not checking their privilege and opening IRAs (Individual Reparation Accounts to pay Black people for the original sin of being born White. Or something.)

    Whiskey I actually asked blacks online once about reparations & what would be an acceptable amount. I pulled a number from my ass…..30k$ i think it was…..a 1-time payment. The Federal Reserve, the central bank would print it up and that was it. That would satisfy and AND ALL CLAIMS forever.

    Basically they take the money they sign a contract with the govt to never seek another dime.

    To my surprise a few said they didn’t want the money. Others said and I quote “nuh uh, you’re on a pay what we want when we demand it.”

    Instead of “here’s the money, take it and fuck off” it’s more about submission and dominance.

    There’s no debate here

    These people don’twant reparaty, they want power.

    Sadly I don’t think there’s much hope for a peacefy co existence.

    What we have now is as good as it gets.

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  • @biz
    The other day an acquaintance of mine mentioned that his wife is going to this march. I was shocked because they seem like the last people to take an interest in anything political. I'll bet she's in for a rude awakening, being currently under the impression that she's going to something positive, festive, and nebulously 'pro-female.'

    yep – SJWs will end up being forced to de-SJWize themselves as a result of the anti-white hostility they helped to create

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  • @biz
    The other day an acquaintance of mine mentioned that his wife is going to this march. I was shocked because they seem like the last people to take an interest in anything political. I'll bet she's in for a rude awakening, being currently under the impression that she's going to something positive, festive, and nebulously 'pro-female.'

    Agree that she is in for a shock. A lesbian friend of mine said all her lesbian friends are going. So it ain’t gonna be a replay of the Million Mom March.

    Let us know what happens.

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  • @EvolutionistX
    Thing is, women--at least heterosexual women--aren't actually in competition with men. If a woman is married to a man, then what does it matter if he makes $1 and she makes 50 cents, or if they both make 75 cents? The net income coming into the household is the same either way. Donald Trump is not a real threat to these women; worst case scenario, their sons die in war in Syria. (And if they thought their sons' lives were actually on the line, they wouldn't bullshit around with this race nonsense.)

    Rather, women compete primarily with other women--for the most valuable resource, men (or men's incomes.) Women can make friends with other women or work together to advance actual common interests, but all of these women (illegal immigrants excepted) actually have more to gain by competing against each other than by competing against Trump. They can conquer each other; they can't conquer Trump.

    The new Apprentice is arranged as an 8 person female team competing against an 8 person male team. For Diversity and inclusivity the male team has two famous homosexuals, 2 famous black athletes and a never was Jewish comedian; the female team has 2 black athletes and several famous housewives and one of the Jersey Shore girls
    Watching the women’s team approach the challenges is like watching crabs in a bucket. If one of them has an idea of merit, two of the housewives start rattle-jawing over the idea till it is swamped.
    Passive aggressive to the max; combined with poor-little-old-meism and so far the women are 1-3. It should not surprise that the only time the women won was with Laila Ali in charge. Mohammed’s daughter is not passive aggressive.
    While the ratings are not as good as for the final Trump season yet; and Arnold is a long way from being a leader the show is worth an hour of your time just to watch how women actually cannot work together toward any goal including things that to a man appear to be of mutual value to the women involved

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  • None of this nonsense would be taken seriously if the media told the truth about the black crime problem.

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  • @Lagertha
    you have time to think. Time to define your issues.

    I actually suspect its to our strength that we have no focused issues. Unlike, say, the liberal left which could focused down on a single issue such as same-sex marriages and then disband because they’ve accomplished their goal, the nebulous boundaries mean that the alt-right basically form a steady subgroup that is united more by a hazy set of ideas and common rejection of liberal shibboleths.

    On top of it is the actual construction of a rival set of norms, spaces and culture. It looks a much stronger contender for power than say, the Religious Right or the Moral Majority ever could be.

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    exactly, and I agree. It is better to be a large group of people with wildly different views (like on this blog), who like to throw ideas around, challenge each other, for example, than let "progressives" define who we are. It is fascinating to see Progs cite alt-right but have no idea what it is. The hilarious thing is, not one person I know who is not a Prog, finds the term, "alt-right," sort of nebulous or just not correct, just not the right label for them. Labels are starting to fail...and I am so happy about that. My point was, the " we all have time to think now, time to define," how we really feel about issues since HRC is out.
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  • @jjxjx
    As for the altright, what exactly do Falangists, people who want to bring back the Ancien Regime with Catholicism as a state religion (I.e. marine le pen or people who want to bring back the romanovs and the rest of the nrx), and libertarians or anarcho capitalists have in common anyway? I mean has anyone seen the graphic of how diverse and disparate the ideologies of the altright are?

    Why am I here, half of you probably want me to kill myself.

    Truly, it is the enemies that drive you to build new friendships. Or tenuous allies, at any rate.

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    I don't. The last thing we need is on the right is for whites to start fighting with each other based on nationality. Or to pick on non-whites who typically make good immigrants.

    But the "alt-right" is no more unified than the left.

    So far, however, it doesn't get expressed, except in the comment sections of alt-right blogs.

    On the whole, the right as a whole doesn't go in for mass marches and demonstrations. They're very much a left thing.

    This blog isn't as bad as some. Some do resent Jews, with the stupid triple bracket thing. That seems be as virulent it gets on this site.
    , @biz

    Truly, it is the enemies that drive you to build new friendships. Or tenuous allies, at any rate.
     
    Amen, brother.
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  • @Travis
    it is notable that the GOP leaders of the past opposed Trump and in fact worked to elect Hillary. But I suspect it may have helped Trump when the Bush clan , along with many notable necons, decided to support Hillary.

    “it is notable that the GOP leaders of the past opposed Trump and in fact worked to elect Hillary. But I suspect it may have helped Trump when the Bush clan , along with many notable necons, decided to support Hillary.”

    Among the Republicans who are Never Trumpers, the vast majority of them were never real Conservatives to begin with. There are tweets and articles showing that Rick Wilson, Jennifer Rubin, and Evan McMullin for example were already bashing The GOP as The White Party long before Donald J. Trump officially announced he was running for POTUS.

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    As absurd as it may be for the New York Times to have as its house conservative David Brooks, the Washington Post does them one better with Jennifer Rubin. But perhaps it's six of one, half a dozen of the other; I can't recall either of them proposing a strong conservative argument for anything.
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  • If Donald Trump Didn’t Exist, the Coalition of the Fringes Would Have to Invent Him to Keep Themselves from Clawing Each Other’s Eyes Out

    That’s pretty much what they’ve done – their Trump is a caricature of the real one.

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  • Black women are more concerned with identity politics than anyone else, if they do work, it tends to be for the government.

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  • @Jefferson
    "Her prophet was a feminist? Yup, nothing says feminist like an arranged marriage to a nine year old girl, amirite?"

    Wishful thinking on my part, but I would love to see South Park do an episode where The Prophet Mohammad is talking to someone on Facebook who he thinks is a 9 year old girl, but is really an FBI agent with a fake Facebook profile. They agree to meet each other at her house for some sexy time in his Arabic Borat accent. When The Prophet Mohammad arrives at the house he is greeted by Chris Hansen from To Catch A Predator who reads the Facebook transcript of all the things The Prophet Mohammad said he wants to sexually do to the 9 year old girl, but The Prophet Mohammad denies all of this and says he only wanted to meet up with the 9 year old girl so that they can watch Aladdin together. Chris Hansen than tells him he is free to leave, only for The Prophet Mohammad to be bumrushed by FBI agents as soon as he leaves the house. While they are putting the handcuffs on him he starts yelling THIS IS RACISM, THIS IS ISLAMOPHOBIA, ALLAHU AKBAR. Than attorney Eric Holder schedules a press conference to announce he will be representing The Prophet Muhammad in his pedophilia trial because America is a nation of immigrants, Islam is a religion of peace, and I am afraid this trial will cause an increase in hate crimes against Muslims among other Left Wing talking points.

    Ha, I wish! But South Park already punted on showing Muhammad in the Cartoon Wars episodes. I can’t say I blame those guys though – there is no point to having a mansion in Maui if you’re dead.

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  • @Ripple Earthdevil
    It's pretty amazing that in the space of fourteen years control of the presidency and both houses of Congress went from GOP (barely) to Dem and back to GOP.

    it is notable that the GOP leaders of the past opposed Trump and in fact worked to elect Hillary. But I suspect it may have helped Trump when the Bush clan , along with many notable necons, decided to support Hillary.

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    "it is notable that the GOP leaders of the past opposed Trump and in fact worked to elect Hillary. But I suspect it may have helped Trump when the Bush clan , along with many notable necons, decided to support Hillary."

    Among the Republicans who are Never Trumpers, the vast majority of them were never real Conservatives to begin with. There are tweets and articles showing that Rick Wilson, Jennifer Rubin, and Evan McMullin for example were already bashing The GOP as The White Party long before Donald J. Trump officially announced he was running for POTUS.
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  • Two of the best thing that can happen to Donald Trump in the next four years are for the economy to improve and for people to keep asking whites to check their privilege.

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    New TV show idea to facilitate enjoyable four years:
    Real Housewives of DC Marches
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  • Always, always, always … the left is a one trick pony. Racism is all they have.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2016/10/from-moral-blackmail-to-political.html

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  • Is discrimination against red heads real? Are red heads really less privileged?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Prejudice_and_discrimination_against_redheads

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    Evidently yes. Weird as heck, to me. My wife, who is French-Irish herself, told me that she hoped gingers will be extinct soon: "They are crazy. They are angry-crazy. Something is wrong with them." Then she referred to the black sheep sister of her family as proof.

    My guess is that the prejudice is very limited to very specific groups who have formed such stereotypes. My wife is mostly French with only slight Irish heritage, so it might have been a Continent mindset.

    I suppose if there any reality to the stereotype, though, might come from possibly some correlation of alcoholism? That always seemed to be the bane of her family.

    , @Patrick Harris
    Low-level nastiness to "gingers" seems to be, or once was, a feature of U.K. culture, though I doubt it seriously impacts anyone's life chances. I've never seen any sign of it here.
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  • @Whiskey
    This is awesome, I never ever thought I'd see this -- the non-Whites actively pushing out their major power center, Nice White Ladies.

    Its also hilarious to see Nice White Ladies get the treatment that I as a White man get. Its just so funny.

    It was a failure of my imagination to see it, too focused on the past and expecting a linear progression rather than a discontinuous function that abruptly breaks. Think the carrying capacity of the arctic for lemmings.

    Yes, Black and Latinx activists or what have you are maybe on average just one step above Vesper Lee Flanagan or THEY in the ability to avoid stupidity and venting to keep allies on side.

    This is breaking out all over. OUT: Barbara Boxer, Hillary, Harry Reid (and even if they don't know it yet, Liawatha/Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer). IN: Keith Ellison X, Maxine Waters, Genius T. Coates, and THEY.

    Not exactly a genius assemblage. And this group will surely alienate their Nice White Lady allies just for the feelz. The ability to dominate. And that is what Democratic Politics offer at its core -- the ability of the various groups to dominate Whites. That used to be just White men, see how the Nice White Ladies like say, Megyn Kelly reflexively side with non-White activists and despise Donald Trump. [This alone explains the Cuckservative movement -- beta males which is 90% of White men attempting vainly to placate their angry women.]

    Now that its White women, eventually even Megyn Kelly will be replaced by say, that actress from "Precious" or some other woman of color who is "thinly challenged." [F.A.T.]

    Opportunity for fun -- register as some "person of color" and abuse Nice White Ladies for not checking their privilege and opening IRAs (Individual Reparation Accounts to pay Black people for the original sin of being born White. Or something.)

    I was waiting for your take on this Whiskey. It is possible that being on the receiving end of “people of color,” and other members of the coalition of the fringes’ criticism could cause White women to overcome their dislike of beta males and actually side with them electorally?

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  • @Mikey Darmody
    Maybe a good, long march for black ladies isn't such a bad idea.

    http://wjla.com/news/health/african-american-women-have-highest-obesity-rate-cdc-says-82913

    “Maybe a good, long march for black ladies isn’t such a bad idea.”

    Every year in London (and elsewhere for all I know) there’s a 26-mile all-night sponsored walk in aid of breast cancer research, the Moonwalk (if you want to see lots of young and not so young (exhibitionist) ladies in pink bras, it’s the place to be – I’d have thought it was dangerous, but there are a lot of them).

    The attendees are 99.9% white, despite London’s demographics. Asian ladies aren’t going to walk the streets in their underwear, and I would bet there are more white men than black women walking.

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  • @Jefferson
    “You should be reading our books and understanding the roots of racism and white supremacy. Listening to our speeches. You should be drowning yourselves in our poetry.”

    Once you have listened to 1 Black poem, you have listened to them all. They all sound like this.

    https://youtu.be/kga2soqvMF0

    I think that this is also true of black literature–it just goes on longer.

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  • Pan-Feminism meaning a movement that unites women from Sweden to South Korea to Senegal to Slovakia to Sri Lanka to South Africa to Singapore to Syria to Saudi Arabia, etc is such a pipe dream that even a Pan-White movement looks a lot more realistic in comparison and that’s because race ALWAYS trumps gender, no exceptions.

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  • @MQ
    In a previous era you'd be worried about the Dems disappearing as a national party. But today it's institutionally almost impossible for third parties to emerge, and if the two-party duopoly permanently collapses to leave one-party rule then America's pretenses to being a democracy would collapse as well. That can't be allowed to happen. So I seem some version of the Dems coming back into some kind of power the next time the economy goes south with Republicans in charge.

    No. the DNC is calving. I am a prime example. I couldn’t fake smile any longer (bad for an aging face, too) and believe in the duplicitous crap fed by so-called, progressives.

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  • “You should be reading our books and understanding the roots of racism and white supremacy. Listening to our speeches. You should be drowning yourselves in our poetry.”

    Once you have listened to 1 Black poem, you have listened to them all. They all sound like this.

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    I think that this is also true of black literature--it just goes on longer.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Is this a parody? It is so hard to tell these days.
    , @Kylie
    Yes.

    Black poetry nowadays is pretty much all the same.

    "Yakety yak (Don't talk back)
    'Cause I'm blackety black."
    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    It's been remarked here before just how few black creative types and intellectuals exist whose work is about anything other than being black. Mediocrity though he may be, I at least give Neil deGrasse Tyson credit for having a rather larger focus of interest.
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  • @Massimo Heitor

    Blacks ruin everything they touch and will drive away non-blacks from the left and the Democrat party.
     
    Just about everyone here would prefer black conservatives to ultra left whites. And black conservatives are minorities among blacks, there are more than a few of them.

    agree. there are plenty of blacks in this country that don’t buy what the DNC was selling. There are many black conservatives…and, the people I grew up with who believe in personal responsibility, and hard work, sacrifices for your kids, with a hint of chance.

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  • @Dr. X

    As for the altright, what exactly do Falangists, people who want to bring back the Ancien Regime with Catholicism as a state religion (I.e. marine le pen or people who want to bring back the romanovs and the rest of the nrx), and libertarians or anarcho capitalists have in common anyway? I mean has anyone seen the graphic of how diverse and disparate the ideologies of the altright are?
     
    That's a really, really excellent question!

    The short answer is, simply, that the common thread between Falangists, nationalists, libertarians and anarcho-capitalists is opposition to global socialism and globalist racial egalitarianism, which is really a form of communism. And although contemporary "soft communism" doesn't (yet) have Soviet-style gulags, it is plenty totalitarian when it comes to policing speech, disseminating propaganda, and enforcing the "proper" attitudes as a condition of employment and social status.

    Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists might have plenty to bitch about under a truly alt-right nationalist government, but since no such thing really exists that's not the issue today. Libertarians can't stand getting global socialist egalitarianism and political correctness and constant hectoring about speech crimes and thought crimes crammed down their throats by the left-wing State any more than cultural/racial nationalists can stand it.

    you have time to think. Time to define your issues.

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    I actually suspect its to our strength that we have no focused issues. Unlike, say, the liberal left which could focused down on a single issue such as same-sex marriages and then disband because they've accomplished their goal, the nebulous boundaries mean that the alt-right basically form a steady subgroup that is united more by a hazy set of ideas and common rejection of liberal shibboleths.

    On top of it is the actual construction of a rival set of norms, spaces and culture. It looks a much stronger contender for power than say, the Religious Right or the Moral Majority ever could be.
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  • @Jefferson
    "Her prophet was a feminist? Yup, nothing says feminist like an arranged marriage to a nine year old girl, amirite?"

    Wishful thinking on my part, but I would love to see South Park do an episode where The Prophet Mohammad is talking to someone on Facebook who he thinks is a 9 year old girl, but is really an FBI agent with a fake Facebook profile. They agree to meet each other at her house for some sexy time in his Arabic Borat accent. When The Prophet Mohammad arrives at the house he is greeted by Chris Hansen from To Catch A Predator who reads the Facebook transcript of all the things The Prophet Mohammad said he wants to sexually do to the 9 year old girl, but The Prophet Mohammad denies all of this and says he only wanted to meet up with the 9 year old girl so that they can watch Aladdin together. Chris Hansen than tells him he is free to leave, only for The Prophet Mohammad to be bumrushed by FBI agents as soon as he leaves the house. While they are putting the handcuffs on him he starts yelling THIS IS RACISM, THIS IS ISLAMOPHOBIA, ALLAHU AKBAR. Than attorney Eric Holder schedules a press conference to announce he will be representing The Prophet Muhammad in his pedophilia trial because America is a nation of immigrants, Islam is a religion of peace, and I am afraid this trial will cause an increase in hate crimes against Muslims among other Left Wing talking points.

    haha! you should have been a screenwriter, right? you wanted to be a screenwriter? I hope there is a screenwriter out there…cause, it would be funny and in line with poking fun at cultures….any cultures, to make everyone stay sincere.

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  • @EvolutionistX
    Thing is, women--at least heterosexual women--aren't actually in competition with men. If a woman is married to a man, then what does it matter if he makes $1 and she makes 50 cents, or if they both make 75 cents? The net income coming into the household is the same either way. Donald Trump is not a real threat to these women; worst case scenario, their sons die in war in Syria. (And if they thought their sons' lives were actually on the line, they wouldn't bullshit around with this race nonsense.)

    Rather, women compete primarily with other women--for the most valuable resource, men (or men's incomes.) Women can make friends with other women or work together to advance actual common interests, but all of these women (illegal immigrants excepted) actually have more to gain by competing against each other than by competing against Trump. They can conquer each other; they can't conquer Trump.

    I think, the women who will get on that bus late January, want to post that shit on FB for their future, supposed grandchildren. For the life of me, I do not understand why some of my peers want to go to fracking DC in January to walk and prove nothing/gain nothing new.

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  • @Mr. Anon
    I think it would help the cause of women's solidarity if the feminists of color asked the white feminists to fetch them some coffee, there's a good girl.

    exactly. I think I just snorted really loud!

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  • @Mr. Anon
    "We’ll see what happens. I’ve been reading stories about how one party or the other is dead after every major upset. 2, 4, or 6 years later they sweep back and now the other party is dead."

    True. And demographic trends still favor the Democrats.

    …demographic trends still favor the Democrats.

    True. But for some reason or other, I find this story encouraging.

    I was formerly a leftist myself (more from family background than anything else) but after reading around in the aftermath of 9/11 I fairly quickly started to rethink it.

    I had no idea how nutty and extreme these people could be. This just adds to it. Yes, they’re even worse than I thought.

    I’m not even sure what they’re protesting. I thought it was something to do with Trump’s alleged behaviour toward women. But leftists didn’t seem to have any problem with Bill Clinton.

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    "I’m not even sure what they’re protesting. I thought it was something to do with Trump’s alleged behaviour toward women. But leftists didn’t seem to have any problem with Bill Clinton."

    The outrage of the left is highly selective. Meryl Streep used her podium at the Golden Globes as a pulpit to inveigh against Donald Trump. And yet, somebody dug up video of her from 2003, at the Oscars, giving a standing ovation to child-rapist Roman Polanski.
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  • @candid_observer
    I think Steve isn't quite appreciating the full significance of this story.

    The point is that Trump does exist, these feminists believe he's Hitler for Women, they want desperately to protest everything he personifies, and they are still clawing each other's eyes out.

    If the most reviled of a common enemy can't unite you even for a moment, how much of a megabitch must you all be?

    Thing is, women–at least heterosexual women–aren’t actually in competition with men. If a woman is married to a man, then what does it matter if he makes $1 and she makes 50 cents, or if they both make 75 cents? The net income coming into the household is the same either way. Donald Trump is not a real threat to these women; worst case scenario, their sons die in war in Syria. (And if they thought their sons’ lives were actually on the line, they wouldn’t bullshit around with this race nonsense.)

    Rather, women compete primarily with other women–for the most valuable resource, men (or men’s incomes.) Women can make friends with other women or work together to advance actual common interests, but all of these women (illegal immigrants excepted) actually have more to gain by competing against each other than by competing against Trump. They can conquer each other; they can’t conquer Trump.

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    I think, the women who will get on that bus late January, want to post that shit on FB for their future, supposed grandchildren. For the life of me, I do not understand why some of my peers want to go to fracking DC in January to walk and prove nothing/gain nothing new.
    , @CK
    The new Apprentice is arranged as an 8 person female team competing against an 8 person male team. For Diversity and inclusivity the male team has two famous homosexuals, 2 famous black athletes and a never was Jewish comedian; the female team has 2 black athletes and several famous housewives and one of the Jersey Shore girls
    Watching the women's team approach the challenges is like watching crabs in a bucket. If one of them has an idea of merit, two of the housewives start rattle-jawing over the idea till it is swamped.
    Passive aggressive to the max; combined with poor-little-old-meism and so far the women are 1-3. It should not surprise that the only time the women won was with Laila Ali in charge. Mohammed's daughter is not passive aggressive.
    While the ratings are not as good as for the final Trump season yet; and Arnold is a long way from being a leader the show is worth an hour of your time just to watch how women actually cannot work together toward any goal including things that to a man appear to be of mutual value to the women involved
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  • @Mr. Anon
    "Women’s March on Washington Opens Contentious Dialogues About Race"

    Contentious Dialogues About Race. Are there any other kind?

    for the life of me, I don’t get this march. I have friends who are hell-bent on going to this. Only two know that I voted differently, from them; and because they are decent, they won’t rat me out.

    I have a really bad feeling about this whole endeavor, as Steve does. The buzz has died for this march on my FB page. I mean January (also Gay Ski Week in Aspen at this time – so much funner!), is tough to march with women who you don’t hang-out with; who you have no connection with? If this was in Finland/Iceland/Canada there might be “vodka stations” to stay warm, and Nordics can connect with vodka; but haha, never here, in DC and not at a resort in winter.

    From what I know of my friends who are gonna go to DC, they are not getting on a bus! They are still too rich for a bus.

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  • @Jefferson
    "I dunno, but I do know there are a Hell of a lot more blacks east of the Mississippi.Have you ever lived east of the Mississippi?"

    Where you live Non Immigrant Black women still work as hotel maids?

    In the Deep South, they probably do. I noticed during cross-country drives that the staff at fast food restaurants, for example, is solidly Mexican throughout the western half of the country, but highly black throughout the Deep South.

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  • When you face losing, you make alliances to grow your numbers. When you win, you can afford to purge/fight over the squabbles.

    White women think they’re losing. Non-whites think they’re wining.

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  • @Ivy
    Crashes in the intersection of life.
    Obama won't be around to be held accountable for his irresponsible identity politics, and Hillary isn't likely to, either. Trump will have some distractions from squabbling marchers and their awomen chorus in the media, and should ride that out while focusing on matters of greater duration.

    BUT. With Melania, American media can’t go full out and say: “Europeans are xenophobes” since she is…. inconveniently, a former Soviet , suppressed country citizen, snap . Also, Eu elections and “state elections” are coming up, so, calling any Europeans racist, is risky/more like never-gonna-work, will actually, backfire.

    OT kinda’ : My wish is: Trump goes full-out high Opera with his inaugural: Pick Carmina Burana. Why not the the fantastic choirs in all of our Uni’s and the Armed Forces. Also, there are really good choirs in like, little Finland.

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    Opera and choirs, with selected groups from across flyover country, too. Many kids in years past enjoyed singing in elementary school and learned a little history and culture in the process. Some non-PC old standards would reinforce the new Administration tone.
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  • @Joe Franklin
    Diversity people are not a coalition nor are they "the fringes".

    Diversity people are a victim cult entitled by many federal laws and they are a super-majority of American and Israeli voters.

    Their common ideological bond is victimhood, forever persecuted by Nazi, white supremacist, and the oppressor classes of people:

    Women are entitled because of Male oppression
    Jewish are entitled because of Gentile oppression
    Queers are entitled because of Straight oppression
    Muslims are entitled because of Christian oppression
    Disabled are entitled because of Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are entitled because of White oppression
    Latinos are entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Military Veterans are entitled because of Militia oppression
    2-party System Dependents are entitled because of Independent oppression
    Aboriginals are entitled because of Paleface oppression
    Asians are entitled because of Occidental oppression
    National Socialist are entitled because of Local-State Government oppression
    Crony Capitalist are entitled because of Honest Businessmen oppression
    Zionist are entitled because of anti-Fascist oppression

    I love this, and, I am not a teenage girl! love, love, love

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  • @biz
    Her prophet was a feminist? Yup, nothing says feminist like an arranged marriage to a nine year old girl, amirite?

    “Her prophet was a feminist? Yup, nothing says feminist like an arranged marriage to a nine year old girl, amirite?”

    Wishful thinking on my part, but I would love to see South Park do an episode where The Prophet Mohammad is talking to someone on Facebook who he thinks is a 9 year old girl, but is really an FBI agent with a fake Facebook profile. They agree to meet each other at her house for some sexy time in his Arabic Borat accent. When The Prophet Mohammad arrives at the house he is greeted by Chris Hansen from To Catch A Predator who reads the Facebook transcript of all the things The Prophet Mohammad said he wants to sexually do to the 9 year old girl, but The Prophet Mohammad denies all of this and says he only wanted to meet up with the 9 year old girl so that they can watch Aladdin together. Chris Hansen than tells him he is free to leave, only for The Prophet Mohammad to be bumrushed by FBI agents as soon as he leaves the house. While they are putting the handcuffs on him he starts yelling THIS IS RACISM, THIS IS ISLAMOPHOBIA, ALLAHU AKBAR. Than attorney Eric Holder schedules a press conference to announce he will be representing The Prophet Muhammad in his pedophilia trial because America is a nation of immigrants, Islam is a religion of peace, and I am afraid this trial will cause an increase in hate crimes against Muslims among other Left Wing talking points.

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    haha! you should have been a screenwriter, right? you wanted to be a screenwriter? I hope there is a screenwriter out there...cause, it would be funny and in line with poking fun at cultures....any cultures, to make everyone stay sincere.
    , @biz
    Ha, I wish! But South Park already punted on showing Muhammad in the Cartoon Wars episodes. I can't say I blame those guys though - there is no point to having a mansion in Maui if you're dead.
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  • @jJay
    Desiderius:

    "Stockman doesn’t even know how to capitalize bell hooks’ name."


    Sorry, but I don't get the joke. And explaining it to me will only ruin it, but I'm not too proud to ask.

    It’s not a joke. Her name is like e.e. cummings, i.e. correctly not capitalized.

    I’ve had her book assigned to me no less than three separate times in grad school classes at what was supposed to be a world-class institution of higher learning. She’s catnip to the SWPL radical chic crowd.

    https://www.amazon.com/Teaching-Transgress-Education-Practice-Translation/dp/0415908086

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  • @biz
    This could be one of the most important political developments of the next 20 years. While much is rightly made of the white working class being driven away from the Democrats, there could be a lot of cultural and political fallout if and when SWPLs (as distinct from hardcore SJWs) also start to leave.

    Already we see the beginnings of people who in a previous era would be natural liberals being pushed out and/or leaving the ideological left and in many cases the Democratic party. Early examples are Dave Rubin and Sam Harris. Look for dissident academics such as Steve Pinker, Jerry Coyne, and Jonathan Haidt to be the next batch of high profile liberal exits from the Left.

    For many of these people their strongest connection to liberalism is/was opposition to the religious right. But nowadays some blowhard creationist bumpkin in a trailer park just doesn't seem that threatening when compared against the agents of hardcore Jihad. And with these people feeling literal, explicit hatred in the academy and the mediasphere for being stale, pale, and male, I don't think they're masochistic enough to stick around for the abuse for too long.

    Outside of the academy, there are probably a lot of otherwise well-behaved and mild-mannered knowledge economy workers who will be forced to sit through one too many diversity seminars.

    I would imagine if this comes to pass - let's say a significant number of relatively affluent, educated, and not very religious whites (and Asians) drifts toward the Republican coalition - the Republicans will become less overtly religious, and maybe less overtly hostile to environmentalism. Upper middle class SWPLs are probably not that ideologically invested in food stamps, Head Start, or even abortion when it comes down to it, but they really don't want their kids being taught creationism in school or seeing oil rigs in National Parks.

    But nowadays some blowhard creationist bumpkin in a trailer park just doesn’t seem that threatening when compared against the agents of hardcore Jihad.

    The theory was that Trump gives them an excuse to stick around (and recruit disaffected Rs), which we did see somewhat, but he’s also inflaming the hell out of the SJWs and that’s got to be all to the good.

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  • Someone please explain to Ms. Willis that the phrase “check your privilege” means STFU, whitey.

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  • @Desiderius
    Stockman doesn't even know how to capitalize bell hooks' name.

    Don't underestimate how much that undermines her street cred for that crowd.

    Desiderius:

    “Stockman doesn’t even know how to capitalize bell hooks’ name.”

    Sorry, but I don’t get the joke. And explaining it to me will only ruin it, but I’m not too proud to ask.

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    It's not a joke. Her name is like e.e. cummings, i.e. correctly not capitalized.

    I've had her book assigned to me no less than three separate times in grad school classes at what was supposed to be a world-class institution of higher learning. She's catnip to the SWPL radical chic crowd.

    https://www.amazon.com/Teaching-Transgress-Education-Practice-Translation/dp/0415908086
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  • @Jefferson
    "Many young activists have spent years protesting police tactics and criminal justice policies — issues they feel too many white liberals have ignored."

    To be anti-law & order and anti-rape at the same time is an oxymoron. You can't say there is a rape epidemic in America & that legally something needs to be done about it and than in the same breathe complain that the police arrest way too many Black men, when Black men are disproportionately overrepresented among men who sexually assault women.

    If a war on women exists, Black men and Muslim men certainly make up a significant number of the foot soldiers. The demographics of men who are responsible for the war on women is nowhere near as lily White as The Empire villains in Star Wars Rogue One.

    Feminists have not been in favor of doing anything to prevent rapes for years. They were even against the nail polish that could detect rape drugs.

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  • @Anonymous
    Here is a funny 15 second clip of Linda Sarsour saying preposterous things:

    https://youtu.be/FDOMVP6uatQ?t=6m28s

    Her prophet was a feminist? Yup, nothing says feminist like an arranged marriage to a nine year old girl, amirite?

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    "Her prophet was a feminist? Yup, nothing says feminist like an arranged marriage to a nine year old girl, amirite?"

    Wishful thinking on my part, but I would love to see South Park do an episode where The Prophet Mohammad is talking to someone on Facebook who he thinks is a 9 year old girl, but is really an FBI agent with a fake Facebook profile. They agree to meet each other at her house for some sexy time in his Arabic Borat accent. When The Prophet Mohammad arrives at the house he is greeted by Chris Hansen from To Catch A Predator who reads the Facebook transcript of all the things The Prophet Mohammad said he wants to sexually do to the 9 year old girl, but The Prophet Mohammad denies all of this and says he only wanted to meet up with the 9 year old girl so that they can watch Aladdin together. Chris Hansen than tells him he is free to leave, only for The Prophet Mohammad to be bumrushed by FBI agents as soon as he leaves the house. While they are putting the handcuffs on him he starts yelling THIS IS RACISM, THIS IS ISLAMOPHOBIA, ALLAHU AKBAR. Than attorney Eric Holder schedules a press conference to announce he will be representing The Prophet Muhammad in his pedophilia trial because America is a nation of immigrants, Islam is a religion of peace, and I am afraid this trial will cause an increase in hate crimes against Muslims among other Left Wing talking points.

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  • @jjxjx
    As for the altright, what exactly do Falangists, people who want to bring back the Ancien Regime with Catholicism as a state religion (I.e. marine le pen or people who want to bring back the romanovs and the rest of the nrx), and libertarians or anarcho capitalists have in common anyway? I mean has anyone seen the graphic of how diverse and disparate the ideologies of the altright are?

    As for the altright, what exactly do Falangists, people who want to bring back the Ancien Regime with Catholicism as a state religion (I.e. marine le pen or people who want to bring back the romanovs and the rest of the nrx), and libertarians or anarcho capitalists have in common anyway? I mean has anyone seen the graphic of how diverse and disparate the ideologies of the altright are?

    That’s a really, really excellent question!

    The short answer is, simply, that the common thread between Falangists, nationalists, libertarians and anarcho-capitalists is opposition to global socialism and globalist racial egalitarianism, which is really a form of communism. And although contemporary “soft communism” doesn’t (yet) have Soviet-style gulags, it is plenty totalitarian when it comes to policing speech, disseminating propaganda, and enforcing the “proper” attitudes as a condition of employment and social status.

    Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists might have plenty to bitch about under a truly alt-right nationalist government, but since no such thing really exists that’s not the issue today. Libertarians can’t stand getting global socialist egalitarianism and political correctness and constant hectoring about speech crimes and thought crimes crammed down their throats by the left-wing State any more than cultural/racial nationalists can stand it.

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    you have time to think. Time to define your issues.
    , @dfordoom

    The short answer is, simply, that the common thread between Falangists, nationalists, libertarians and anarcho-capitalists is opposition to global socialism and globalist racial egalitarianism, which is really a form of communism.
     
    Where does that leave those of us who see global capitalism as an equally menacing threat?
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  • @Bernie
    Blacks ruin everything they touch and will drive away non-blacks from the left and the Democrat party.

    Blacks ruin everything they touch and will drive away non-blacks from the left and the Democrat party.

    Just about everyone here would prefer black conservatives to ultra left whites. And black conservatives are minorities among blacks, there are more than a few of them.

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    agree. there are plenty of blacks in this country that don't buy what the DNC was selling. There are many black conservatives...and, the people I grew up with who believe in personal responsibility, and hard work, sacrifices for your kids, with a hint of chance.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Not me. I would prefer separate countries for each nationality/race/ethnic group. Doesn't mean I hate other groups; I just prefer my own.

    I hate white SJWs, but, in the end, they are family. Black conservatives are not.

    Besides, there's regression to the mean. Sooner or later, the children, nieces, nephews and so on of black conservatives will regress to black means in intelligence and violence.

    We're all happier living among our own. It's natural, not hateful. I wish blacks well. I just don't want to live with them.
    , @dfordoom

    Just about everyone here would prefer black conservatives to ultra left whites.

     

    Yup.
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  • @BenKenobi
    This is delicious. And it's happening to the most deserving people: Nice White Ladies.

    I thought we were all supposed to be buddies here at The End of History. But no, it's all "back-of-the-bus, Whitey."

    I hope they continue to alienate their White "Allies" -- we're not polarized enough yet. 53% of White women seem to understand already, and I feel that number will continue to grow

    53% of White women seem to understand already, and I feel that number will continue to grow

    Women need to be able to join a strong and secure group. That number is so low–actually–because White men have abdicated their responsibility for maintaining collective strength. That 53% will not have a meaningful behind it commitment, nor will it grow, until White men man up.

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    That 53% will not have a meaningful behind it commitment, nor will it grow, until White men man up.
     
    It might work the other way round.

    I think the undermining of western ethnic/national consciousness was brought about by the media's use of empathy based manipulation (films like "To Kill a Mockingbird" and filtering the news) so I wonder if it wasn't more that white men "manned down" in response to female pressure. If so then if white women finally figure out they've been conned all these years by the media the pressure might reverse.
    , @BenKenobi
    In response to that I shall refer you to the St Crispin's Day Speech from Henry V.
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