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    "Have you noticed how the neocons were the first to go apoplectic when Trump announced he would, if elected president, end support of the regime-change program and have more friendly relations with Russia?"
     
    The unholy neocon alliance with HRC was entertaining. Dracula meets Wolfwoman? They had visible distaste for her, fidgety desperation at the prospect of losing relevance. As oft said, those involved in Iraq '03 - neocons and pols - should be indicted for crimes against peace. Don't hold my breath.

    DJT? Liked the neutrality spiel but never believed him. Remember his promise to release tax returns? His "I don't want your money speech to Jewish donors'? The "self-financing" promise? Five deferments, four bankruptcies, three wives, two positions on any issue, one thing he cares about - himself.

    Doesn't mean I like the DNC any better - it's a dead man walking, zombie populism.

    "the Luggenpresse of Wiemerica"
     
    Appropriating WN, Alt-Right language? Careful. Irrational fondness for brown uniforms and jackboots may follow. Accompanied by involuntary arm raising and cries of 'heil'. Not pretty.

    "My list isn't a ME list, it is a list of measures that is intended to help drain the swamp."
     
    The same swamp DJT is busy gilding? Midas would envy his touch!

    "Oh, I see, I'm the one creating the crisis?"
     
    You lay blame at one threshold, when many may share it. Over and over and over. Same phrases, same urgency. Same crisis. Sky is falling, falling, falling. No other crisis, no other issue concerns Americans.

    "…if everyone, and I mean everyone, renounces the concept of having raced based countries, count me in."
     
    Let me get this right. You'll accept diversity if everyone else promises same? Otherwise - only otherwise - you want a 'race based country'? What do you suggest? A blood oath, swearing by Odin and Wötan? Adding International 'Diversity Police' to the UN?

    What 'racial' basis defines your nation? What glue binds citizenry? Skin color, religion, national origins, congenital health, genetic quality, ancestry? How many generations? Professional and academic accomplishment? Occupational skill? Emotional disposition? Political views? What dissent will you allow? Any protest? Is individual thought permitted, or will conformity govern?

    If Kenneth Roberts (read long ago) is accurate, a third of Americans were rebels, a third royalists, and the middle third watched wind direction 1775-83. Even after Tories departed, there was diversity. Multiplied galore by la vente de la Louisiane 1803. The 19C influx of Chinese and Irish is well known. And others. Even Italians and Greeks! Where would you have us return?

    "If I claim The Lobby is the "driving force" this, according to you means The Lobby is exclusively responsible for everything that happens in the world as they are the only actors in the world, there are no other agents? Nice try."
     
    Unless I missed it (possible), you don't entertain any other influence in US ME policy. Or North Korea, for that matter. For you, 'the Lobby' is determinant. Your only quarry. Your White Whale.

    "If I come across comments that try and perpetuate the two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby, you can count on seeing a comment from me. Otherwise, I generally try and mind my own business."
     
    So be it. Whatever turns you on. Bonne chance, inspecteur Javert!

    Appropriating WN, Alt-Right language?

    Like MAGA or America First?

    You lay blame at one threshold, when many may share it. Over and over and over. Same phrases, same urgency. Same crisis. Sky is falling, falling, falling. No other crisis, no other issue concerns Americans.

    True. But there is a reason for that. For all other issues, we are permitted to talk about. But no one is supposed to notice the pink elephant/800 lb gorilla in the room. Hopefully, this explanation of my monomania is to your satisfaction.

    What do you suggest? A blood oath, swearing by Odin and Wötan? Adding International ‘Diversity Police’ to the UN?

    I suggest we return to the status quo ante that prevailed in 1965, the time before which the floodgates were flung open to mass immigration, courtesy of The Lobby.

    Even Italians and Greeks! Where would you have us return?

    For the umpteenth time, repealing H-C is not the equivalent of expulsions. But, I see you have a flare for the dramatic. So, keep knocking yourself out.

    For you, ‘the Lobby’ is determinant. Your only quarry. Your White Whale.

    As it happens to be the driving force behind the policy to remake the ME, The Lobby is chiefly responsible for the deaths of over a million innocents and the destruction of several Muslim countries. So, yes, I am on a mission to see to it that the Night Flower wilts, by exposing it to the light of day.

    Bonne chance, inspecteur Javert!

    Merci, inspecteur Clouseau.

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  • @Philip Giraldi
    Robjil - The Solzhenitsyn book has been translated into English and is available on Amazon:

    https://www.amazon.com/Crucifixion-Russia-Russians-translation-Solzhenitsyns/dp/1548660272/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516555570&sr=8-1&keywords=solzhenitsyn+200+years+together

    I just got the “20o years together” book that was supposedly translated into English. It is a joke. The book is a censored version; a shorten version with most of the names and detail descriptions of events left out. It is almost unreadable with all the names and the descriptive details taken out. This translation is meant to say to the world – “Oh we translated the most banned book.” Well, they didn’t translate the most banned book into English after all. It is better to stick with many good English translations of the chapters of the book on the internet. Kevin MacDonald site has a good translation of the chapters of this most banned book in English.

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  • @geokat62

    Russia? Where’d that come from?
     
    Ever hear of Russia-gate? Have you noticed how the neocons were the first to go apoplectic when Trump announced he would, if elected president, end support of the regime-change program and have more friendly relations with Russia? Who do you think was responsible for spearheading Cold War 2.0? Are you familiar with the name of the (((Russian))) oligarch, William Browder*? Well, this one individual was able to convince two US Senators (Benjamin Cardin and John McCain) to sponsor a bill, The Magnitsky Act, that would jump-start the Cold War. Not bad, huh? And why has the Luggenpresse of Wiemerica incessantly demonized Putin as the next Hitler? Could it be that Russia is a key ally of the states that comprise the Shia Crescent, the arch enemy of the Jewish state?

    Your ME list starts with US immigration reform. Why? How does HC repeal help Pals?
     
    My list isn't a ME list, it is a list of measures that is intended to help drain the swamp. I put that measure at the top of the list because of the grave danger mass immigration represents to European and European-derived countries. See the Barbara Lerner Spectre video to get a glimpse of what The Lobby has in store for these countries.

    Geo, you’re not interested in ME solutions. You need crisis to create outrage, like picking the scab off a wound. Then you play doctor.
     
    Oh, I see, I'm the one creating the crisis? A little insignificant individual who resides north of the border is trying to create a crisis? Not the innumerable organizations that comprise The Lobby that has the resources, both financial and human, to implement their agenda that strives to accomplish one thing and one thing alone - promote the interests of Diaspora Jewry and the Jews of Israel by propagating two Big Lies:

    1. "Diversity Is Our Strength" for European and European-derived peoples
    2. The Global War On Terrorism is being waged to enhance the security of European and European-derived peoples

    These two Big Lies are creating the crisis we see around us and not my comments that are trying to shine a spotlight on the activities of the perpetrators of these crises.

    This Lawrence Auster:

    “I have always called myself a racialist..."
     
    Look, if everyone, and I mean everyone, renounces the concept of having raced based countries, count me in. But that isn't the case. What we have is The Lobby pumping out this propaganda for European and European-derived countries, while AT THE SAME TIME, insisting that the Jewish state remain a state exclusively for the Jews. Tell you what, you should try getting them to renounce their support of a state based on race, before you try convincing the peoples of European and European-derived countries to do the same, ok?

    Really? The CIA had nothing to do with them? Are you sure? Sources please.
    Whoops, forgot we concentrate only on ‘the Lobby’. Sorry.
     
    There you go again with your "absolutist" argument. If I claim The Lobby is the "driving force" this, according to you means The Lobby is exclusively responsible for everything that happens in the world as they are the only actors in the world, there are no other agents? Nice try.

    Geo, appreciate your tone, but don’t you get tired of the same old strawmen? Suppose – like Auster – it’s all you have. Knock yourself out!
     
    If I come across comments that try and perpetuate the two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby, you can count on seeing a comment from me. Otherwise, I generally try and mind my own business.

    * Excerpt from Alex Krainer's The Killing of William Browder:


    Escaping American gestapo

    Although it is unrelated to Magnitsky’s death and the $230 million tax fraud, the story about Browder’s change of citizenship from U.S. to U.K. and his varying explanations of this act, add another shining exhibit of the quality of Browder’s character. He became UK citizen in 1998. In a 2011 interview for Institutional Investor’s Alpha magazine, Browder explained that he didn’t give up his U.S. citizenship for tax reasons but because his then wife was English and because he liked the UK. “ I did not do it for tax reasons,” he insisted: “My tax bill was roughly the same either way.” 179 Four years later, Browder thought up a better explanation. During his deposition in the U.S.A. vs. Prevezon lawsuit it turned out that Browder gave up his U.S. citizenship just as the laws about reporting foreign income came into effect. Browder pretended that he was not aware of this and explained instead that he gave up U.S. citizenship because his family had been persecuted in the United States during the McCarthy era:

    Mr. Cymrot: You gave up your U.S. citizenship in 1998, right?
    Browder: Correct.
    Mr. Cymrot: Just as the laws about reporting foreign income came into effect; is that right?
    Browder: I don’t know.
    Mr. Cymrot: Why did you give up your U.S. citizenship in 1998?
    Browder: I immigrated to the U.K. ten years earlier.
    Mr. Cymrot: So the U.K. required you to give up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: No.
    Mr. Cymrot: So why did you give up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: Personal reasons.
    Mr. Cymrot: And what are those personal reasons?
    Browder: My family was persecuted during the McCarthy era.
    Mr Cymrot: And your father is the head of the economics department where, what university?
    Browder: He’s not –
    Mr. Cymrot: Where was he?
    Browder: My father was a professor of mathematics at the University of Chicago.
    Mr. Cymrot: Was he the head of the department at some point?
    Browder: Yes
    Mr. Cymrot: And your uncle, what position did he have?
    Browder: He was a mathematician at Princeton.
    Mr. Cymrot: Head of the department at one point?
    Browder: Yes.
    Mr. Cymrot: But your concern that your family was persecuted, but they made it to the head of the department of two prestigious universities and that's why you gave up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: Yes
    Mr. Cymrot: What kind of persecution did you face?
    Browder: My grandmother was sick with cancer and the U.S. Government tried to deport her to Russia when she was dying.
    Mr. Cymrot: What year was that?
    Browder: In 1950 something.
    Mr. Cymrot: I see. And so in 1998, this all came back as a rush of emotion and you decided to give up your U.S. citizenship?

    Apparently, after Bill Browder gave up his U.S. citizenship, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service reinstated the great American tradition of persecuting the Browder family by placing Bill on a “name and shame” list of Americans who renounced their citizenship to avoid paying their taxes. Thankfully for him, he was by then living between Moscow and London, travelling on a British passport, safely out of reach of the American Gestapo.
     

    “Have you noticed how the neocons were the first to go apoplectic when Trump announced he would, if elected president, end support of the regime-change program and have more friendly relations with Russia?”

    The unholy neocon alliance with HRC was entertaining. Dracula meets Wolfwoman? They had visible distaste for her, fidgety desperation at the prospect of losing relevance. As oft said, those involved in Iraq ’03 – neocons and pols – should be indicted for crimes against peace. Don’t hold my breath.

    DJT? Liked the neutrality spiel but never believed him. Remember his promise to release tax returns? His “I don’t want your money speech to Jewish donors’? The “self-financing” promise? Five deferments, four bankruptcies, three wives, two positions on any issue, one thing he cares about – himself.

    Doesn’t mean I like the DNC any better – it’s a dead man walking, zombie populism.

    “the Luggenpresse of Wiemerica”

    Appropriating WN, Alt-Right language? Careful. Irrational fondness for brown uniforms and jackboots may follow. Accompanied by involuntary arm raising and cries of ‘heil’. Not pretty.

    “My list isn’t a ME list, it is a list of measures that is intended to help drain the swamp.”

    The same swamp DJT is busy gilding? Midas would envy his touch!

    “Oh, I see, I’m the one creating the crisis?”

    You lay blame at one threshold, when many may share it. Over and over and over. Same phrases, same urgency. Same crisis. Sky is falling, falling, falling. No other crisis, no other issue concerns Americans.

    “…if everyone, and I mean everyone, renounces the concept of having raced based countries, count me in.”

    Let me get this right. You’ll accept diversity if everyone else promises same? Otherwise – only otherwise – you want a ‘race based country’? What do you suggest? A blood oath, swearing by Odin and Wötan? Adding International ‘Diversity Police’ to the UN?

    What ‘racial’ basis defines your nation? What glue binds citizenry? Skin color, religion, national origins, congenital health, genetic quality, ancestry? How many generations? Professional and academic accomplishment? Occupational skill? Emotional disposition? Political views? What dissent will you allow? Any protest? Is individual thought permitted, or will conformity govern?

    If Kenneth Roberts (read long ago) is accurate, a third of Americans were rebels, a third royalists, and the middle third watched wind direction 1775-83. Even after Tories departed, there was diversity. Multiplied galore by la vente de la Louisiane 1803. The 19C influx of Chinese and Irish is well known. And others. Even Italians and Greeks! Where would you have us return?

    “If I claim The Lobby is the “driving force” this, according to you means The Lobby is exclusively responsible for everything that happens in the world as they are the only actors in the world, there are no other agents? Nice try.”

    Unless I missed it (possible), you don’t entertain any other influence in US ME policy. Or North Korea, for that matter. For you, ‘the Lobby’ is determinant. Your only quarry. Your White Whale.

    “If I come across comments that try and perpetuate the two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby, you can count on seeing a comment from me. Otherwise, I generally try and mind my own business.”

    So be it. Whatever turns you on. Bonne chance, inspecteur Javert!

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    Appropriating WN, Alt-Right language?
     
    Like MAGA or America First?

    You lay blame at one threshold, when many may share it. Over and over and over. Same phrases, same urgency. Same crisis. Sky is falling, falling, falling. No other crisis, no other issue concerns Americans.
     
    True. But there is a reason for that. For all other issues, we are permitted to talk about. But no one is supposed to notice the pink elephant/800 lb gorilla in the room. Hopefully, this explanation of my monomania is to your satisfaction.

    What do you suggest? A blood oath, swearing by Odin and Wötan? Adding International ‘Diversity Police’ to the UN?
     
    I suggest we return to the status quo ante that prevailed in 1965, the time before which the floodgates were flung open to mass immigration, courtesy of The Lobby.

    Even Italians and Greeks! Where would you have us return?
     
    For the umpteenth time, repealing H-C is not the equivalent of expulsions. But, I see you have a flare for the dramatic. So, keep knocking yourself out.

    For you, ‘the Lobby’ is determinant. Your only quarry. Your White Whale.
     
    As it happens to be the driving force behind the policy to remake the ME, The Lobby is chiefly responsible for the deaths of over a million innocents and the destruction of several Muslim countries. So, yes, I am on a mission to see to it that the Night Flower wilts, by exposing it to the light of day.

    Bonne chance, inspecteur Javert!
     
    Merci, inspecteur Clouseau.
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  • @geokat62

    Russia? Where’d that come from?
     
    Ever hear of Russia-gate? Have you noticed how the neocons were the first to go apoplectic when Trump announced he would, if elected president, end support of the regime-change program and have more friendly relations with Russia? Who do you think was responsible for spearheading Cold War 2.0? Are you familiar with the name of the (((Russian))) oligarch, William Browder*? Well, this one individual was able to convince two US Senators (Benjamin Cardin and John McCain) to sponsor a bill, The Magnitsky Act, that would jump-start the Cold War. Not bad, huh? And why has the Luggenpresse of Wiemerica incessantly demonized Putin as the next Hitler? Could it be that Russia is a key ally of the states that comprise the Shia Crescent, the arch enemy of the Jewish state?

    Your ME list starts with US immigration reform. Why? How does HC repeal help Pals?
     
    My list isn't a ME list, it is a list of measures that is intended to help drain the swamp. I put that measure at the top of the list because of the grave danger mass immigration represents to European and European-derived countries. See the Barbara Lerner Spectre video to get a glimpse of what The Lobby has in store for these countries.

    Geo, you’re not interested in ME solutions. You need crisis to create outrage, like picking the scab off a wound. Then you play doctor.
     
    Oh, I see, I'm the one creating the crisis? A little insignificant individual who resides north of the border is trying to create a crisis? Not the innumerable organizations that comprise The Lobby that has the resources, both financial and human, to implement their agenda that strives to accomplish one thing and one thing alone - promote the interests of Diaspora Jewry and the Jews of Israel by propagating two Big Lies:

    1. "Diversity Is Our Strength" for European and European-derived peoples
    2. The Global War On Terrorism is being waged to enhance the security of European and European-derived peoples

    These two Big Lies are creating the crisis we see around us and not my comments that are trying to shine a spotlight on the activities of the perpetrators of these crises.

    This Lawrence Auster:

    “I have always called myself a racialist..."
     
    Look, if everyone, and I mean everyone, renounces the concept of having raced based countries, count me in. But that isn't the case. What we have is The Lobby pumping out this propaganda for European and European-derived countries, while AT THE SAME TIME, insisting that the Jewish state remain a state exclusively for the Jews. Tell you what, you should try getting them to renounce their support of a state based on race, before you try convincing the peoples of European and European-derived countries to do the same, ok?

    Really? The CIA had nothing to do with them? Are you sure? Sources please.
    Whoops, forgot we concentrate only on ‘the Lobby’. Sorry.
     
    There you go again with your "absolutist" argument. If I claim The Lobby is the "driving force" this, according to you means The Lobby is exclusively responsible for everything that happens in the world as they are the only actors in the world, there are no other agents? Nice try.

    Geo, appreciate your tone, but don’t you get tired of the same old strawmen? Suppose – like Auster – it’s all you have. Knock yourself out!
     
    If I come across comments that try and perpetuate the two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby, you can count on seeing a comment from me. Otherwise, I generally try and mind my own business.

    * Excerpt from Alex Krainer's The Killing of William Browder:


    Escaping American gestapo

    Although it is unrelated to Magnitsky’s death and the $230 million tax fraud, the story about Browder’s change of citizenship from U.S. to U.K. and his varying explanations of this act, add another shining exhibit of the quality of Browder’s character. He became UK citizen in 1998. In a 2011 interview for Institutional Investor’s Alpha magazine, Browder explained that he didn’t give up his U.S. citizenship for tax reasons but because his then wife was English and because he liked the UK. “ I did not do it for tax reasons,” he insisted: “My tax bill was roughly the same either way.” 179 Four years later, Browder thought up a better explanation. During his deposition in the U.S.A. vs. Prevezon lawsuit it turned out that Browder gave up his U.S. citizenship just as the laws about reporting foreign income came into effect. Browder pretended that he was not aware of this and explained instead that he gave up U.S. citizenship because his family had been persecuted in the United States during the McCarthy era:

    Mr. Cymrot: You gave up your U.S. citizenship in 1998, right?
    Browder: Correct.
    Mr. Cymrot: Just as the laws about reporting foreign income came into effect; is that right?
    Browder: I don’t know.
    Mr. Cymrot: Why did you give up your U.S. citizenship in 1998?
    Browder: I immigrated to the U.K. ten years earlier.
    Mr. Cymrot: So the U.K. required you to give up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: No.
    Mr. Cymrot: So why did you give up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: Personal reasons.
    Mr. Cymrot: And what are those personal reasons?
    Browder: My family was persecuted during the McCarthy era.
    Mr Cymrot: And your father is the head of the economics department where, what university?
    Browder: He’s not –
    Mr. Cymrot: Where was he?
    Browder: My father was a professor of mathematics at the University of Chicago.
    Mr. Cymrot: Was he the head of the department at some point?
    Browder: Yes
    Mr. Cymrot: And your uncle, what position did he have?
    Browder: He was a mathematician at Princeton.
    Mr. Cymrot: Head of the department at one point?
    Browder: Yes.
    Mr. Cymrot: But your concern that your family was persecuted, but they made it to the head of the department of two prestigious universities and that's why you gave up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: Yes
    Mr. Cymrot: What kind of persecution did you face?
    Browder: My grandmother was sick with cancer and the U.S. Government tried to deport her to Russia when she was dying.
    Mr. Cymrot: What year was that?
    Browder: In 1950 something.
    Mr. Cymrot: I see. And so in 1998, this all came back as a rush of emotion and you decided to give up your U.S. citizenship?

    Apparently, after Bill Browder gave up his U.S. citizenship, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service reinstated the great American tradition of persecuting the Browder family by placing Bill on a “name and shame” list of Americans who renounced their citizenship to avoid paying their taxes. Thankfully for him, he was by then living between Moscow and London, travelling on a British passport, safely out of reach of the American Gestapo.
     

    Thanks for highlighting Browder. VERY important.

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    Looks like Da Joos dun it again

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/02/habakkuk-on-longtime-sources.html?cid=6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d2d71534970c#comment-6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d2d71534970c
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  • @Incitatus

    “Larger [challenges] than that posed by the “special relationship” which may bring us to the brink of nuclear annihilation…"
     
    Sky is falling, sky is falling!

    Russia? Where’d that come from? Couldn’t think a way to link ‘the Lobby’ to Jerry Chun Shing Lee and China? Work on it. Loved your Lobby-US-North Korea spiel. Better than Dr. Strangelove.

    “Could you elaborate a bit about what [ME] reform you have in mind?”
     
    Again? Scroll through the archive. For Israel/Palestine:
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-obstacle-to-peace/#comment-1558317

    Your ME list starts with US immigration reform. Why? How does HC repeal help Pals?

    Geo, you’re not interested in ME solutions. You need crisis to create outrage, like picking the scab off a wound. Then you play doctor.

    “Repealing the mass immigration laws is the equivalent of establishing planet Germania…”
     
    Read your colleagues’ posts.“Rage, rage against those who have harmed us. Anger focuses the mind, and hatred motivates action.” “Die fahne hoch…” “If we had helped Germany…we would have also solved our “jewish problem.” Etc. Your pal Richard Spencer is honest:

    “For us “immigration” is a proxy for race…The ideal I advocate is the creation of a White Ethno-State on the North American continent…We must give up the false dreams of equality and democracy… We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created unequal…Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory.”
     
    Sounds like Planet Germania to me.

    “The Lobby is chiefly responsible for setting things on fire…”
     
    ‘The Lobby’ is the best thing that ever happened to you. Your very own pet scapegoat. Flogging it is leverage to power.

    “You are a proponent of Diversity Is Our Strength meme?”
     
    I’m for individual thought, freedom and rights. Value based on merit and accomplishment. Mother and apple pie. Gasbag theories and crackpot history have little appeal. Though lectures on “our culture” are entertaining. Were your kin at Plymouth or Yorktown?

    "Did you happen to read Lawrence Auster’s Path To National Suicide?"
     
    This Lawrence Auster:

    "I have always called myself a racialist, which to me means two things. First, as a general proposition, I think that race matters in all kinds of ways. Second, I care about the white race. It is the source of and is inseparable from everything we are, everything we have, and everything our civilization has achieved."
     
    Amazing he made a living, but suppose a BA in English gives few options. How often did he launder his hood and robe?

    BTW do you guys have all apostate Jews on your rolodex?

    “there is no doubt it [the Lobby] took centre stage in the other theatres of war you listed…”
     
    Really? The CIA had nothing to do with them? Are you sure? Sources please.

    Whoops, forgot we concentrate only on ‘the Lobby’. Sorry.

    “I’ll have to follow-up with The Lobby to get the scoop on how to go about setting something like this [tax exempt educational foundation] up.”
     
    By all means. Why not ask Dr. Phil?

    Geo, appreciate your tone, but don’t you get tired of the same old strawmen? Suppose – like Auster - it’s all you have. Knock yourself out!

    Russia? Where’d that come from?

    Ever hear of Russia-gate? Have you noticed how the neocons were the first to go apoplectic when Trump announced he would, if elected president, end support of the regime-change program and have more friendly relations with Russia? Who do you think was responsible for spearheading Cold War 2.0? Are you familiar with the name of the (((Russian))) oligarch, William Browder*? Well, this one individual was able to convince two US Senators (Benjamin Cardin and John McCain) to sponsor a bill, The Magnitsky Act, that would jump-start the Cold War. Not bad, huh? And why has the Luggenpresse of Wiemerica incessantly demonized Putin as the next Hitler? Could it be that Russia is a key ally of the states that comprise the Shia Crescent, the arch enemy of the Jewish state?

    Your ME list starts with US immigration reform. Why? How does HC repeal help Pals?

    My list isn’t a ME list, it is a list of measures that is intended to help drain the swamp. I put that measure at the top of the list because of the grave danger mass immigration represents to European and European-derived countries. See the Barbara Lerner Spectre video to get a glimpse of what The Lobby has in store for these countries.

    Geo, you’re not interested in ME solutions. You need crisis to create outrage, like picking the scab off a wound. Then you play doctor.

    Oh, I see, I’m the one creating the crisis? A little insignificant individual who resides north of the border is trying to create a crisis? Not the innumerable organizations that comprise The Lobby that has the resources, both financial and human, to implement their agenda that strives to accomplish one thing and one thing alone – promote the interests of Diaspora Jewry and the Jews of Israel by propagating two Big Lies:

    1. “Diversity Is Our Strength” for European and European-derived peoples
    2. The Global War On Terrorism is being waged to enhance the security of European and European-derived peoples

    These two Big Lies are creating the crisis we see around us and not my comments that are trying to shine a spotlight on the activities of the perpetrators of these crises.

    This Lawrence Auster:

    “I have always called myself a racialist…”

    Look, if everyone, and I mean everyone, renounces the concept of having raced based countries, count me in. But that isn’t the case. What we have is The Lobby pumping out this propaganda for European and European-derived countries, while AT THE SAME TIME, insisting that the Jewish state remain a state exclusively for the Jews. Tell you what, you should try getting them to renounce their support of a state based on race, before you try convincing the peoples of European and European-derived countries to do the same, ok?

    Really? The CIA had nothing to do with them? Are you sure? Sources please.
    Whoops, forgot we concentrate only on ‘the Lobby’. Sorry.

    There you go again with your “absolutist” argument. If I claim The Lobby is the “driving force” this, according to you means The Lobby is exclusively responsible for everything that happens in the world as they are the only actors in the world, there are no other agents? Nice try.

    Geo, appreciate your tone, but don’t you get tired of the same old strawmen? Suppose – like Auster – it’s all you have. Knock yourself out!

    If I come across comments that try and perpetuate the two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby, you can count on seeing a comment from me. Otherwise, I generally try and mind my own business.

    * Excerpt from Alex Krainer’s The Killing of William Browder:

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    Escaping American gestapo

    Although it is unrelated to Magnitsky’s death and the $230 million tax fraud, the story about Browder’s change of citizenship from U.S. to U.K. and his varying explanations of this act, add another shining exhibit of the quality of Browder’s character. He became UK citizen in 1998. In a 2011 interview for Institutional Investor’s Alpha magazine, Browder explained that he didn’t give up his U.S. citizenship for tax reasons but because his then wife was English and because he liked the UK. “ I did not do it for tax reasons,” he insisted: “My tax bill was roughly the same either way.” 179 Four years later, Browder thought up a better explanation. During his deposition in the U.S.A. vs. Prevezon lawsuit it turned out that Browder gave up his U.S. citizenship just as the laws about reporting foreign income came into effect. Browder pretended that he was not aware of this and explained instead that he gave up U.S. citizenship because his family had been persecuted in the United States during the McCarthy era:

    Mr. Cymrot: You gave up your U.S. citizenship in 1998, right?
    Browder: Correct.
    Mr. Cymrot: Just as the laws about reporting foreign income came into effect; is that right?
    Browder: I don’t know.
    Mr. Cymrot: Why did you give up your U.S. citizenship in 1998?
    Browder: I immigrated to the U.K. ten years earlier.
    Mr. Cymrot: So the U.K. required you to give up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: No.
    Mr. Cymrot: So why did you give up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: Personal reasons.
    Mr. Cymrot: And what are those personal reasons?
    Browder: My family was persecuted during the McCarthy era.
    Mr Cymrot: And your father is the head of the economics department where, what university?
    Browder: He’s not –
    Mr. Cymrot: Where was he?
    Browder: My father was a professor of mathematics at the University of Chicago.
    Mr. Cymrot: Was he the head of the department at some point?
    Browder: Yes
    Mr. Cymrot: And your uncle, what position did he have?
    Browder: He was a mathematician at Princeton.
    Mr. Cymrot: Head of the department at one point?
    Browder: Yes.
    Mr. Cymrot: But your concern that your family was persecuted, but they made it to the head of the department of two prestigious universities and that’s why you gave up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: Yes
    Mr. Cymrot: What kind of persecution did you face?
    Browder: My grandmother was sick with cancer and the U.S. Government tried to deport her to Russia when she was dying.
    Mr. Cymrot: What year was that?
    Browder: In 1950 something.
    Mr. Cymrot: I see. And so in 1998, this all came back as a rush of emotion and you decided to give up your U.S. citizenship?

    Apparently, after Bill Browder gave up his U.S. citizenship, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service reinstated the great American tradition of persecuting the Browder family by placing Bill on a “name and shame” list of Americans who renounced their citizenship to avoid paying their taxes. Thankfully for him, he was by then living between Moscow and London, travelling on a British passport, safely out of reach of the American Gestapo.

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    Thanks for highlighting Browder. VERY important.
    , @Incitatus

    "Have you noticed how the neocons were the first to go apoplectic when Trump announced he would, if elected president, end support of the regime-change program and have more friendly relations with Russia?"
     
    The unholy neocon alliance with HRC was entertaining. Dracula meets Wolfwoman? They had visible distaste for her, fidgety desperation at the prospect of losing relevance. As oft said, those involved in Iraq '03 - neocons and pols - should be indicted for crimes against peace. Don't hold my breath.

    DJT? Liked the neutrality spiel but never believed him. Remember his promise to release tax returns? His "I don't want your money speech to Jewish donors'? The "self-financing" promise? Five deferments, four bankruptcies, three wives, two positions on any issue, one thing he cares about - himself.

    Doesn't mean I like the DNC any better - it's a dead man walking, zombie populism.

    "the Luggenpresse of Wiemerica"
     
    Appropriating WN, Alt-Right language? Careful. Irrational fondness for brown uniforms and jackboots may follow. Accompanied by involuntary arm raising and cries of 'heil'. Not pretty.

    "My list isn't a ME list, it is a list of measures that is intended to help drain the swamp."
     
    The same swamp DJT is busy gilding? Midas would envy his touch!

    "Oh, I see, I'm the one creating the crisis?"
     
    You lay blame at one threshold, when many may share it. Over and over and over. Same phrases, same urgency. Same crisis. Sky is falling, falling, falling. No other crisis, no other issue concerns Americans.

    "…if everyone, and I mean everyone, renounces the concept of having raced based countries, count me in."
     
    Let me get this right. You'll accept diversity if everyone else promises same? Otherwise - only otherwise - you want a 'race based country'? What do you suggest? A blood oath, swearing by Odin and Wötan? Adding International 'Diversity Police' to the UN?

    What 'racial' basis defines your nation? What glue binds citizenry? Skin color, religion, national origins, congenital health, genetic quality, ancestry? How many generations? Professional and academic accomplishment? Occupational skill? Emotional disposition? Political views? What dissent will you allow? Any protest? Is individual thought permitted, or will conformity govern?

    If Kenneth Roberts (read long ago) is accurate, a third of Americans were rebels, a third royalists, and the middle third watched wind direction 1775-83. Even after Tories departed, there was diversity. Multiplied galore by la vente de la Louisiane 1803. The 19C influx of Chinese and Irish is well known. And others. Even Italians and Greeks! Where would you have us return?

    "If I claim The Lobby is the "driving force" this, according to you means The Lobby is exclusively responsible for everything that happens in the world as they are the only actors in the world, there are no other agents? Nice try."
     
    Unless I missed it (possible), you don't entertain any other influence in US ME policy. Or North Korea, for that matter. For you, 'the Lobby' is determinant. Your only quarry. Your White Whale.

    "If I come across comments that try and perpetuate the two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby, you can count on seeing a comment from me. Otherwise, I generally try and mind my own business."
     
    So be it. Whatever turns you on. Bonne chance, inspecteur Javert!
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  • @Rurik

    discussion with Anon-Og .I posted on it. No reply.
     
    Hello Old Jew!

    Yes, I'm sorry I didn't reply to your post at the time. And then I sort of let the discussion waift away after it dropped off the page.

    Also, as I contemplated OG's eloquent questions about a disastrous lack of spirituality in the West, and it's terrible consequences, having tossed out their religion with nothing to replace it but crass materialism and individuality, consumerism and ((pop culture)), I was at a loss for how to bolster an argument in favor of all that.

    I don't want to belabor it here, since as you mention, it's off topic, but I have been down that road before, in other conversations with devout Christians who eventually say, 'well then, if not Christianity, then what?'

    And I find myself at a loss. Humans are spiritual beings. We crave, we need a belief system that transcends Mammon/the dirt/born-live-die. We need to believe in things bigger, more sacred than ourselves, and I just don't have any answers for that. For people like myself, of the scientific bent, we're satisfied with the ineffable nuances of our improbability, of the unlikeliness of it all, and the wonderfulness of all that. But we're a tiny few, Old Jew, and most people find such answers to the eternal questions lacking of...

    I remember having a discussion with a fascinating woman some time ago, and she pointed out that we're on a collision course with ourselves and runaway technology. Without a spirituality, Dutch children (for instance) are finding life meaningless, and then for a solution to that, they've legalized euthanasia. I don't remember exactly how she put it, but something like 'first we kill their little souls, and then once their spiritually devoid, we let them walk into the suicide machine and snuff it'. It was poignant, only I can't say it like she did.

    And of course, she's right. And OG is right. I wish I had the answers to these questions, but I don't.

    I will however contemplate it all more, and see what we can come up with.

    Shalom

    Hey Rurik,

    we’re on a collision course with ourselves and runaway technology.

    I cannot stress enough how Neil Postman’s book should be required reading for everyone in our age. It is fairly short and full of amazing insights on this subject:

    https://www.amazon.com/Technopoly-Surrender-Technology-Neil-Postman/dp/0679745408

    Peace.

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  • @Rurik
    thanks Chris,

    Intriguing stuff there. Will definitely have a look see

    Cheers

    Excellent, Rurik!

    This book is the quintessential Chesterton. He may not answer all our questions on the subject, but you have the feeling that you’re getting the opinion of a very brilliant man.

    One of the drawbacks is also that his examples are so captivating that only when you read or listen to it multiple times can you get a better perspective on his milestones; at least it is that way for me. The other interesting point in the book is that his “modern world” is very similar to ours; except in his time, the “moderns” were more erudite and up-front with their philosophies. The fact that they hide them better now is only because (in my opinion) they haven’t been able to substitute any better philosophy in the intervening time.

    The major lesson I get from the book, and I’ve been able to add to it with every reading and listen, is the fact that it’s Christian Orthodox values which are create the best balance and proportions to human life. And the proof is that the resulting “man” which emerges from this set of values is objectively the better man, as judged by not just by Christians themselves but any man (admittedly a bit subjective); in his ideal he is more balanced than any other philosophy can render.

    But you be the judge. (I continue to learn.)

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  • @chris
    Wow Rurik, that’s well encapsulated (and thanks OJ for being persistent). The dilemma you elucidate, is a tough nut to crack and we’re not the first to come across it. GK Chesterton was grappling with it 100 years ago, and surely, the open discussions probably date back to the Enlightenment.

    Though I don’t have an answer to your dilemma either, I found Chesterton’s Orthodoxy, on this subject to be a fountain of brilliance which seems to keep on giving each time I go over it again.

    I read it a number of times and listened to it even more often.
    https://librivox.org/orthodoxy-by-gk-chesterton/

    thanks Chris,

    Intriguing stuff there. Will definitely have a look see

    Cheers

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    Excellent, Rurik!

    This book is the quintessential Chesterton. He may not answer all our questions on the subject, but you have the feeling that you're getting the opinion of a very brilliant man.

    One of the drawbacks is also that his examples are so captivating that only when you read or listen to it multiple times can you get a better perspective on his milestones; at least it is that way for me. The other interesting point in the book is that his "modern world" is very similar to ours; except in his time, the "moderns" were more erudite and up-front with their philosophies. The fact that they hide them better now is only because (in my opinion) they haven't been able to substitute any better philosophy in the intervening time.

    The major lesson I get from the book, and I've been able to add to it with every reading and listen, is the fact that it's Christian Orthodox values which are create the best balance and proportions to human life. And the proof is that the resulting "man" which emerges from this set of values is objectively the better man, as judged by not just by Christians themselves but any man (admittedly a bit subjective); in his ideal he is more balanced than any other philosophy can render.

    But you be the judge. (I continue to learn.)
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  • @SolontoCroesus
    No, not "coy" but precision:

    The Victorian townhouse has 3 exterior doors (w/ thresholds) not counting the 4th floor balcony. The beach house had 2 doors (w/ thresholds), and the urban pied-à-terre has two doors at-grade plus a utility entrance, each with its own threshold.

    So, Which house determines the response to Little Orphan iffen's query, how many thresholds?

    “So, Which house determines the response to Little Orphan iffen’s query, how many thresholds?”

    That’s easy. The threshold of insanity, which you artfully transgress on a regular basis. Entertaining journeys into a Third Reich ‘Twilight Zone.’

    I’d worry about getting back – you might wake up in a bunker.

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  • @helena
    But we also make films of books.

    And apparently – more frequently – comic books…

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  • @iffen
    So the picture is complex.

    It is indeed. Which is why we always use words to describe the picture.

    But we also make films of books.

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  • @helena
    "Anyway, hope to follow your progress with keen interest as you proceed to fling yourself into the ‘machinery’, wherever that happens to be….."

    Don't forget your brolly!

    The weather has been beastly. Brolly in hand, certainly not in Cricket-whites, is ideal for stepping into the UR.

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    Possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity. They would leave perhaps 2% for the sake of diversity useful for their own survival.
     
    First of all, Mike Garrett, I'm at a loss how to think about you. I pulled apart some of your earlier comments rather harshly, and it may be that I owe you an apology.
    But I'm still suspicious of your plea that Christian churches rescue "religious" Jews, particularly since you framed it thus:

    The vast majority of of the Jews who will be available for arrest and camps will be nearly as innocent as the Moravians.
     
    Moravians are pretty obscure.

    Here's what Douglas Reed wrote in Controversy of Zion about Moravians vis a vis Jews:

    Two examples from our present time illustrate the effect of the Talmud, many centuries after its compilation.
    The brothers Thoreau in their books give the diligent student some rare glimpses behind the Talmudic walls; in one book they depict the little Jewish boy in Poland who had been taught to spit, quite mechanically, as he passed the wayside Calvary and to say, "Cursed be thou who created another religion".
    In 1953, in New York, a young missionary of the Moravian Church in Jerusalem described the seizure by the Zionists of the Moravian leper home there, called "The Jesus Mission"; their first act was to putty over the name "Jesus" which for more than a hundred years had been inscribed above its door.

    Such incidents as these (and the ban on the mention of the name Jesus) derive directly from the teaching of the Talmud, which in effect was another "New Law" with a specifically anti-Christian application. For this reason the next period in the story of Zion is best described as that of the Talmudists, the former ones being those of the Pharisees and of the Levites.
     
    It is terrifying that these sentiments are still so deeply ingrained in the Jewish psyche. In the Abby Martin video, Jewish persons, male and female, old and young, from USA and (apparently) sabra, all gave voice to the belief that Arabs must to die: "Gaza should be carpet bombed;" "Jews have a right to hate Arabs;" "kill all the Arabs" was punctuated with laughter.

    This is a sick society and a danger to the world.

    re: Your mention of the possibility that Israel would not feel constrained from releasing bio-chem agents to kill much of the world:
    1. When he appeared before a Congressional committee to urge the Congress to support George Bush in waging war on Iraq, Benjamin Netanyahu demanded that US Congress supply Israelis with gas masks and other protective supplies to ensure that no Israelis be harmed. The US Congress complied with Netanyahu's demand.

    2. In 2004, the George Bush administration funded Project BioShield: What It Is, Why It Is Needed, and Its Accomplishments So Far.

    In 2014, the Obama administration raided Project BioShield funds

    "to offset the costs of a legal settlement with black farmers and American Indians, to increase education aid to the states and to develop a vaccine for swine flu.

    To get those billions, they looked to the same coffer: Project BioShield, a $5.6 billion fund created specifically to prepare America for a bioterrorist attack and develop treatments for deadly viruses such as Ebola. http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/25/white-house-congress-raided-hundreds-millions-anti-bioterrorism-project-targets-included-ebola/
     
    I'm unable to find the specific clip, but yesterday or today an advocate for Project BioShield was interviewed on C Span. He noted that the fund was just about drained; that public funding rather than private financing of such a project was necessary because the threat was speculative; the possible market might be very small, but the investment substantial -- far greater than the investment community would be willing to underwrite based on risk-reward.

    So the possibility that Israel would release a chemical toxin or a biological virus, either out of the depths of Levitic pathology or as a means of generating revenue -- Israel already controls major pharmaceutical sources of revenue -- is not unthinkable.

    So thanks for raising the issue, Mike Garrett.

    …and nobody has yet explained the radioactive hotspot at the Israeli embassy in NYC.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread266278/pg1

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    For some time now it has to me seemed possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity. They would leave perhaps 2% for the sake of diversity useful for their own survival. Would people intentionally setting off wars that killed millions not do this too? They released Communism and nuclear weapons technology in the 20th century. Do you not think it dangerous to underestimate what they might do, given what they have just done? Go visit Israel and talk with Israelis. Their level of arrogance will scare you.

    Possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity. They would leave perhaps 2% for the sake of diversity useful for their own survival.

    First of all, Mike Garrett, I’m at a loss how to think about you. I pulled apart some of your earlier comments rather harshly, and it may be that I owe you an apology.
    But I’m still suspicious of your plea that Christian churches rescue “religious” Jews, particularly since you framed it thus:

    The vast majority of of the Jews who will be available for arrest and camps will be nearly as innocent as the Moravians.

    Moravians are pretty obscure.

    Here’s what Douglas Reed wrote in Controversy of Zion about Moravians vis a vis Jews:

    Two examples from our present time illustrate the effect of the Talmud, many centuries after its compilation.
    The brothers Thoreau in their books give the diligent student some rare glimpses behind the Talmudic walls; in one book they depict the little Jewish boy in Poland who had been taught to spit, quite mechanically, as he passed the wayside Calvary and to say, “Cursed be thou who created another religion”.
    In 1953, in New York, a young missionary of the Moravian Church in Jerusalem described the seizure by the Zionists of the Moravian leper home there, called “The Jesus Mission”; their first act was to putty over the name “Jesus” which for more than a hundred years had been inscribed above its door.

    Such incidents as these (and the ban on the mention of the name Jesus) derive directly from the teaching of the Talmud, which in effect was another “New Law” with a specifically anti-Christian application. For this reason the next period in the story of Zion is best described as that of the Talmudists, the former ones being those of the Pharisees and of the Levites.

    It is terrifying that these sentiments are still so deeply ingrained in the Jewish psyche. In the Abby Martin video, Jewish persons, male and female, old and young, from USA and (apparently) sabra, all gave voice to the belief that Arabs must to die: “Gaza should be carpet bombed;” “Jews have a right to hate Arabs;” “kill all the Arabs” was punctuated with laughter.

    This is a sick society and a danger to the world.

    re: Your mention of the possibility that Israel would not feel constrained from releasing bio-chem agents to kill much of the world:
    1. When he appeared before a Congressional committee to urge the Congress to support George Bush in waging war on Iraq, Benjamin Netanyahu demanded that US Congress supply Israelis with gas masks and other protective supplies to ensure that no Israelis be harmed. The US Congress complied with Netanyahu’s demand.

    2. In 2004, the George Bush administration funded Project BioShield: What It Is, Why It Is Needed, and Its Accomplishments So Far.

    In 2014, the Obama administration raided Project BioShield funds

    “to offset the costs of a legal settlement with black farmers and American Indians, to increase education aid to the states and to develop a vaccine for swine flu.

    To get those billions, they looked to the same coffer: Project BioShield, a $5.6 billion fund created specifically to prepare America for a bioterrorist attack and develop treatments for deadly viruses such as Ebola. http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/25/white-house-congress-raided-hundreds-millions-anti-bioterrorism-project-targets-included-ebola/

    I’m unable to find the specific clip, but yesterday or today an advocate for Project BioShield was interviewed on C Span. He noted that the fund was just about drained; that public funding rather than private financing of such a project was necessary because the threat was speculative; the possible market might be very small, but the investment substantial — far greater than the investment community would be willing to underwrite based on risk-reward.

    So the possibility that Israel would release a chemical toxin or a biological virus, either out of the depths of Levitic pathology or as a means of generating revenue — Israel already controls major pharmaceutical sources of revenue — is not unthinkable.

    So thanks for raising the issue, Mike Garrett.

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  • @Mike Garrett
    For some time now it has to me seemed possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity. They would leave perhaps 2% for the sake of diversity useful for their own survival. Would people intentionally setting off wars that killed millions not do this too? They released Communism and nuclear weapons technology in the 20th century. Do you not think it dangerous to underestimate what they might do, given what they have just done? Go visit Israel and talk with Israelis. Their level of arrogance will scare you.

    Do you not think it dangerous to underestimate what they might do, given what they have just done? Go visit Israel and talk with Israelis. Their level of arrogance will scare you.

    Abby Martin’s walk-and-talk in Zion Square in Jerusalem last Fall offered some compelling insights into the Jewish Israeli psyche

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e_dbsVQrk4&feature=youtu.be

    About 2/3 of the way into the video, Martin speaks with an older man w/white hair. Their exchange:

    Old man: shouting: “Where are the Palestinian people during 4000 years and the Ottoman empire? Answer me that.”
    Abby: “I’ the journalist —”
    Man: “aaaaahhhhh
    And how God punished [our] sins?
    By other people.
    He sent the Nazis and now he sends Palestinians.”

    Here’s what’s compelling — and frightening — about that brief exchange: With exquisite economy tt mimics and describes the ideological — or pathological — mindset Douglas Reed traced to Deuteronomy and the Levites, and summarized in ch. 3 of Controversy of Zion, The Levites and The Law :

    “Deuteronomy employs this Doublespeak (to use the modem idiom) throughout: the Lord makes the special people homeless [or otherwise punishes them] among the heathen for their transgressions; the heathen, who have no blame either for their exile or for those transgressions, are their “persecutors “; ergo, the heathen will be destroyed.

    The Judaist attitude towards other mankind, creation, and the universe in general, is better understood when these and related passages have been pondered, and especially the constant plaint that Jews are “persecuted” everywhere, which in one tone or another runs through nearly all Jewish literature. To any who accept this book as The Law, the mere existence of others is in fact persecution; Deuteronomy plainly implies that.

    Elitecomminc insists, without evidence or reference, nor by filling in the appropriate context, that “Germans scapegoated Jews” and persecuted Jews because that is the conviction Elitecomminc’s Hebraic indoctrination process has demanded for all of the history of the Hebrew/Yehud/Jewish people.

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  • @Incitatus
    Hello iffen,

    S2C’s being coy.

    He’s in his bunker, where (like a submarine) every door has a threshold.

    Best.

    No, not “coy” but precision:

    The Victorian townhouse has 3 exterior doors (w/ thresholds) not counting the 4th floor balcony. The beach house had 2 doors (w/ thresholds), and the urban pied-à-terre has two doors at-grade plus a utility entrance, each with its own threshold.

    So, Which house determines the response to Little Orphan iffen’s query, how many thresholds?

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    "So, Which house determines the response to Little Orphan iffen's query, how many thresholds?"
     
    That's easy. The threshold of insanity, which you artfully transgress on a regular basis. Entertaining journeys into a Third Reich 'Twilight Zone.'

    I'd worry about getting back - you might wake up in a bunker.
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  • @helena
    Sounds like Notting Hill in the 50-60s:

    "he also subdivided large properties into flats and let rooms, initially often for prostitution. Much of this area, south of Westbourne Park Road, having become derelict, was compulsorily purchased by Westminster City Council in the late 1960s and was demolished in 1973–74 to make way for the Wessex Gardens estate.[6][7]
    According to his biographer, Shirley Green, Rachman moved the protected tenants into a smaller concentration of properties or bought them out to minimise the number of tenancies with statutory rent controls. Houses were also subdivided into a number of flats to increase the number of tenancies without rent controls.[8] He then filled the properties with recent immigrants from the West Indies. Rachman's initial reputation, which he even promoted in the media, was as someone who could help to find and provide accommodation for immigrants. However, some suggested he was overcharging West Indians, as they did not have the same protection under the law as had the previous ones.
    By 1958 he had largely moved out of slum-landlording into property development, but his former henchmen, including the equally-notorious Michael de Freitas (aka Michael X/Abdul Malik), who created a reputation as a black-power leader, and Johnny Edgecombe, who became a promoter of jazz and blues, helped to keep him in the limelight.[9][10] A special police unit was set up to investigate Rachman in 1959, and uncovered a network of 33 companies controlling his property empire.[5] They also discovered Rachman was involved in prostitution and he was prosecuted twice for brothel-keeping.[11]
    Rachman did not achieve general notoriety until after his death, when the Profumo Affair of 1963 hit the headlines and it emerged that both Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice-Davies had been his mistresses, and that he had owned the mews house in Marylebone where Rice-Davies and Keeler had stayed.
    As full details of his activities were revealed, there was a call for new legislation to prevent such practices, led by Ben Parkin, MP for Paddington North, who coined the term "Rachmanism". The subsequent Rent Act 1965 gave security to tenants."


    But also:
    "Rachman was born in Lwów, Poland, in 1919, the son of a Jewish dentist.[1] After the German invasion of Poland in 1939, Rachman may have joined the Polish resistance.[2] He was first interned by the Germans and, after escaping across the Soviet border, was reinterned in a Soviet labour camp in Siberia and cruelly treated.[3] After the Germans declared war on the Soviet Union in 1941, Rachman and other Polish prisoners joined the 2nd Polish Corps and fought on behalf of the Allies in the Middle East and Italy. After the war he stayed with his unit, which remained as an occupying force in Italy until 1946 when they transferred to Britain. Rachman was eventually demobilised in 1948 and became a British resident.[4]"

    So the picture is complex.

    [extracts from Wiki]

    So the picture is complex.

    It is indeed. Which is why we always use words to describe the picture.

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  • @iffen
    Which house?

    The house with Jews in the attic, Jews in the basement and Jews in the closet. The one where Jews jump out from behind every curtain and door. The one where Jews come up out of the drain. The one where Jews bang on your window pane.

    Sounds like Notting Hill in the 50-60s:

    “he also subdivided large properties into flats and let rooms, initially often for prostitution. Much of this area, south of Westbourne Park Road, having become derelict, was compulsorily purchased by Westminster City Council in the late 1960s and was demolished in 1973–74 to make way for the Wessex Gardens estate.[6][7]
    According to his biographer, Shirley Green, Rachman moved the protected tenants into a smaller concentration of properties or bought them out to minimise the number of tenancies with statutory rent controls. Houses were also subdivided into a number of flats to increase the number of tenancies without rent controls.[8] He then filled the properties with recent immigrants from the West Indies. Rachman’s initial reputation, which he even promoted in the media, was as someone who could help to find and provide accommodation for immigrants. However, some suggested he was overcharging West Indians, as they did not have the same protection under the law as had the previous ones.
    By 1958 he had largely moved out of slum-landlording into property development, but his former henchmen, including the equally-notorious Michael de Freitas (aka Michael X/Abdul Malik), who created a reputation as a black-power leader, and Johnny Edgecombe, who became a promoter of jazz and blues, helped to keep him in the limelight.[9][10] A special police unit was set up to investigate Rachman in 1959, and uncovered a network of 33 companies controlling his property empire.[5] They also discovered Rachman was involved in prostitution and he was prosecuted twice for brothel-keeping.[11]
    Rachman did not achieve general notoriety until after his death, when the Profumo Affair of 1963 hit the headlines and it emerged that both Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice-Davies had been his mistresses, and that he had owned the mews house in Marylebone where Rice-Davies and Keeler had stayed.
    As full details of his activities were revealed, there was a call for new legislation to prevent such practices, led by Ben Parkin, MP for Paddington North, who coined the term “Rachmanism”. The subsequent Rent Act 1965 gave security to tenants.”

    But also:
    “Rachman was born in Lwów, Poland, in 1919, the son of a Jewish dentist.[1] After the German invasion of Poland in 1939, Rachman may have joined the Polish resistance.[2] He was first interned by the Germans and, after escaping across the Soviet border, was reinterned in a Soviet labour camp in Siberia and cruelly treated.[3] After the Germans declared war on the Soviet Union in 1941, Rachman and other Polish prisoners joined the 2nd Polish Corps and fought on behalf of the Allies in the Middle East and Italy. After the war he stayed with his unit, which remained as an occupying force in Italy until 1946 when they transferred to Britain. Rachman was eventually demobilised in 1948 and became a British resident.[4]”

    So the picture is complex.

    [extracts from Wiki]

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  • @Sam Shama
    [Hate them, my fellow humans, with all the ferocity that you can muster, and then, hurl your bodies into the machinery thus stopping it. The fiend, as Rurik terms it, cannot be halted in any other way.]

    I sense you are in pain. The source of it remains shrouded in mystery. I know what you think causes the condition, but imho, you, as others here, are solely responsible for creating a parable replete with the requisite monsters in order to feed the need for masochism.

    As I travel these United States, I speak to people in the heartland, of matters which trouble and concern them. Never have I encountered anything vaguely resembling that which you incessantly recount here. Mostly, the concerns are of healthcare costs, college costs and lamentations about the loss of a way of life that used to prevail in the days past. Overwhelmingly, these people are a hearty lot, pleasant and deeply patriotic. They know what is good and what isn't for America. Nazism would find any purchase with them.

    You might find kindred souls amongst a narrow class of urban professionals of a certain age, now frustrated on account of difficulties for a variety of reasons, including international competition, but, these would be people whose Sturm und Drang, displayed e.g. on the UR, rapidly vanishes when faced with the possibility of exposure. These, my friend, are not your pools to prospect revolutionaries from.

    Anyway, hope to follow your progress with keen interest as you proceed to fling yourself into the 'machinery', wherever that happens to be.....

    “Anyway, hope to follow your progress with keen interest as you proceed to fling yourself into the ‘machinery’, wherever that happens to be…..”

    Don’t forget your brolly!

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    The weather has been beastly. Brolly in hand, certainly not in Cricket-whites, is ideal for stepping into the UR.
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  • @Mike Garrett
    For some time now it has to me seemed possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity. They would leave perhaps 2% for the sake of diversity useful for their own survival. Would people intentionally setting off wars that killed millions not do this too? They released Communism and nuclear weapons technology in the 20th century. Do you not think it dangerous to underestimate what they might do, given what they have just done? Go visit Israel and talk with Israelis. Their level of arrogance will scare you.

    For some time now it has to me seemed possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity.

    Mike Garrett,

    I would like to think that some Jew would rat them out. But then I can be over optimistic at times.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. I don’t think we could count on Jerry S.

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  • @Mike Garrett
    After reviewing the material presented here again and reading once more through the comments, I am astonished at how few references there are here to the events of 11 September 2001. That well-planned and executed event was most certainly a Hollywood production, a Jewish achievement from start to finish that forced millions of conservative Americans to support a Jewish lie. Yes, they did have Bush administration acquiescence and assistance, but it was a Larry Silverstein and Israeli explosive teams production all the way. This was an action designed to advance Israeli interests in ever so many ways, but perhaps their greatest achievement was to destroy the last vestiges of faith of the most intelligent of Americans in the future of their world. Believing the story of 9 11 became the litmus test for American loyalty. That hit was so totally, obviously, blatantly not a simple airplane hijacking. The fake nature of the event was so blatant and obvious to anyone with a brain from the very beginning that having to watch their own people swallow it and keep to the story after more than a decade - this has had a most destructive effect on bright Americans. Everyone with brains enough to see through that immediately was left completely frustrated and alone. This effect weeded out many thousands of America's brightest people, leaving them intellectually isolated and unlikely to ever really use their talents and energy again in the public sphere.

    For myself, emigration worked. I can’t speak for the rest.

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  • @Incitatus
    Hello iffen,

    S2C’s being coy.

    He’s in his bunker, where (like a submarine) every door has a threshold.

    Best.

    Uh-oh, in a bunker, this might not end well.

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  • @iffen
    Which house?

    The house with Jews in the attic, Jews in the basement and Jews in the closet. The one where Jews jump out from behind every curtain and door. The one where Jews come up out of the drain. The one where Jews bang on your window pane.

    Hello iffen,

    S2C’s being coy.

    He’s in his bunker, where (like a submarine) every door has a threshold.

    Best.

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    Uh-oh, in a bunker, this might not end well.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    No, not "coy" but precision:

    The Victorian townhouse has 3 exterior doors (w/ thresholds) not counting the 4th floor balcony. The beach house had 2 doors (w/ thresholds), and the urban pied-à-terre has two doors at-grade plus a utility entrance, each with its own threshold.

    So, Which house determines the response to Little Orphan iffen's query, how many thresholds?
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  • @Art
    People here – and only here – talk of little else.

    ONLY HERE?

    Oh dear'- how you Jews can lie - every day there are more intelligent people getting on to you Jews. Every day now, there are more YouTube personalities banging Jews and Israel, more gutsy blogs taking on you Jews.

    You own the top because you buy them – but only the top – the elite upper middle’s loyalty is an inch deep – they will turn on you in a NY minute.

    People are seeing who is crying for more war – JEWS. How long will it be before someone will ask a warmonger “are you a Jew?”

    You Jews are responsible for 9/11, the Iraq war and aftermath, and the nuke Samson threat to the world.

    Buck up boy!

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. You Jews are fighting fighting fighting – but the American people do not even know that there is a war going on – that is changing.

    Art,

    Eight on the HebrewMeter!

    Congratulations, you’re improving!

    I’d remind you I’m not Jewish, but what’s the use?

    Treat yourself to a philosophic bagel!

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  • @geokat62

    Simple. There are larger challenges to our future.
     
    Larger than that posed by the "special relationship" which may bring us to the brink of nuclear annihilation if The Lobby gets it way in demonizing Putin as the next Hitler and Russia as the revanchist empire.

    Meanwhile the building burns down.

    I support ME policy reform.
     

    Could you elaborate a bit about what reform you have in mind?

    You – first generation Greco-Canadian – want to end diversity, place yourself among the select and create a Euro-Ethno-State. A homogenous, exclusive nation. Details to follow.
     
    There you go again. Repealing the mass immigration laws is the equivalent of establishing planet Germania in your mind. As your good buddy once put it, it is all in the numbers. A little salt in the stew is pleasing... too much and it spoils the dish.

    An arsonist-would-be-fire chief. Focus solely on the scapegoat. Nothing less will do. No other problem exists.
     
    Back to the arsonist analogy, I see. As you know, The Lobby is chiefly responsible for setting things on fire. I'm just a dumb goy trying to put out the flames with a small bucket of water.

    We must return to ‘Ein Volk’ – a state of drab uniformity, unquestioning obedience, blessed dictatorship. Ah, the good old race-baiting days. What could be better?
     
    I see. You are a proponent of Diversity Is Our Strength meme? Rather than closing the floodgates, you're content if the European and European-derived countries become minorities... one of many cultures in a multicultural dreamland? Did you happen to read Lawrence Auster's Path To National Suicide? If so, I suggest you give it another, more careful, read this time.

    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?
     
    Not sure what role The Lobby played in Iran '53, but there is no doubt it took centre stage in the other theatres of war you listed.

    You should consider a “tax deductible educational foundation’. After all, 501(c)(3) status is good enough for AIPAC,... How about DGI - Dumb Goyim Institute?
     
    That's the best advice you've proffered yet, Incy. I'll have to follow-up with The Lobby to get the scoop on how to go about setting something like this up. Thanks!

    “Larger [challenges] than that posed by the “special relationship” which may bring us to the brink of nuclear annihilation…”

    Sky is falling, sky is falling!

    Russia? Where’d that come from? Couldn’t think a way to link ‘the Lobby’ to Jerry Chun Shing Lee and China? Work on it. Loved your Lobby-US-North Korea spiel. Better than Dr. Strangelove.

    “Could you elaborate a bit about what [ME] reform you have in mind?”

    Again? Scroll through the archive. For Israel/Palestine:

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-obstacle-to-peace/#comment-1558317

    Your ME list starts with US immigration reform. Why? How does HC repeal help Pals?

    Geo, you’re not interested in ME solutions. You need crisis to create outrage, like picking the scab off a wound. Then you play doctor.

    “Repealing the mass immigration laws is the equivalent of establishing planet Germania…”

    Read your colleagues’ posts.“Rage, rage against those who have harmed us. Anger focuses the mind, and hatred motivates action.” “Die fahne hoch…” “If we had helped Germany…we would have also solved our “jewish problem.” Etc. Your pal Richard Spencer is honest:

    “For us “immigration” is a proxy for race…The ideal I advocate is the creation of a White Ethno-State on the North American continent…We must give up the false dreams of equality and democracy… We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created unequal…Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory.”

    Sounds like Planet Germania to me.

    “The Lobby is chiefly responsible for setting things on fire…”

    ‘The Lobby’ is the best thing that ever happened to you. Your very own pet scapegoat. Flogging it is leverage to power.

    “You are a proponent of Diversity Is Our Strength meme?”

    I’m for individual thought, freedom and rights. Value based on merit and accomplishment. Mother and apple pie. Gasbag theories and crackpot history have little appeal. Though lectures on “our culture” are entertaining. Were your kin at Plymouth or Yorktown?

    “Did you happen to read Lawrence Auster’s Path To National Suicide?”

    This Lawrence Auster:

    “I have always called myself a racialist, which to me means two things. First, as a general proposition, I think that race matters in all kinds of ways. Second, I care about the white race. It is the source of and is inseparable from everything we are, everything we have, and everything our civilization has achieved.”

    Amazing he made a living, but suppose a BA in English gives few options. How often did he launder his hood and robe?

    BTW do you guys have all apostate Jews on your rolodex?

    “there is no doubt it [the Lobby] took centre stage in the other theatres of war you listed…”

    Really? The CIA had nothing to do with them? Are you sure? Sources please.

    Whoops, forgot we concentrate only on ‘the Lobby’. Sorry.

    “I’ll have to follow-up with The Lobby to get the scoop on how to go about setting something like this [tax exempt educational foundation] up.”

    By all means. Why not ask Dr. Phil?

    Geo, appreciate your tone, but don’t you get tired of the same old strawmen? Suppose – like Auster – it’s all you have. Knock yourself out!

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    Russia? Where’d that come from?
     
    Ever hear of Russia-gate? Have you noticed how the neocons were the first to go apoplectic when Trump announced he would, if elected president, end support of the regime-change program and have more friendly relations with Russia? Who do you think was responsible for spearheading Cold War 2.0? Are you familiar with the name of the (((Russian))) oligarch, William Browder*? Well, this one individual was able to convince two US Senators (Benjamin Cardin and John McCain) to sponsor a bill, The Magnitsky Act, that would jump-start the Cold War. Not bad, huh? And why has the Luggenpresse of Wiemerica incessantly demonized Putin as the next Hitler? Could it be that Russia is a key ally of the states that comprise the Shia Crescent, the arch enemy of the Jewish state?

    Your ME list starts with US immigration reform. Why? How does HC repeal help Pals?
     
    My list isn't a ME list, it is a list of measures that is intended to help drain the swamp. I put that measure at the top of the list because of the grave danger mass immigration represents to European and European-derived countries. See the Barbara Lerner Spectre video to get a glimpse of what The Lobby has in store for these countries.

    Geo, you’re not interested in ME solutions. You need crisis to create outrage, like picking the scab off a wound. Then you play doctor.
     
    Oh, I see, I'm the one creating the crisis? A little insignificant individual who resides north of the border is trying to create a crisis? Not the innumerable organizations that comprise The Lobby that has the resources, both financial and human, to implement their agenda that strives to accomplish one thing and one thing alone - promote the interests of Diaspora Jewry and the Jews of Israel by propagating two Big Lies:

    1. "Diversity Is Our Strength" for European and European-derived peoples
    2. The Global War On Terrorism is being waged to enhance the security of European and European-derived peoples

    These two Big Lies are creating the crisis we see around us and not my comments that are trying to shine a spotlight on the activities of the perpetrators of these crises.

    This Lawrence Auster:

    “I have always called myself a racialist..."
     
    Look, if everyone, and I mean everyone, renounces the concept of having raced based countries, count me in. But that isn't the case. What we have is The Lobby pumping out this propaganda for European and European-derived countries, while AT THE SAME TIME, insisting that the Jewish state remain a state exclusively for the Jews. Tell you what, you should try getting them to renounce their support of a state based on race, before you try convincing the peoples of European and European-derived countries to do the same, ok?

    Really? The CIA had nothing to do with them? Are you sure? Sources please.
    Whoops, forgot we concentrate only on ‘the Lobby’. Sorry.
     
    There you go again with your "absolutist" argument. If I claim The Lobby is the "driving force" this, according to you means The Lobby is exclusively responsible for everything that happens in the world as they are the only actors in the world, there are no other agents? Nice try.

    Geo, appreciate your tone, but don’t you get tired of the same old strawmen? Suppose – like Auster – it’s all you have. Knock yourself out!
     
    If I come across comments that try and perpetuate the two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby, you can count on seeing a comment from me. Otherwise, I generally try and mind my own business.

    * Excerpt from Alex Krainer's The Killing of William Browder:


    Escaping American gestapo

    Although it is unrelated to Magnitsky’s death and the $230 million tax fraud, the story about Browder’s change of citizenship from U.S. to U.K. and his varying explanations of this act, add another shining exhibit of the quality of Browder’s character. He became UK citizen in 1998. In a 2011 interview for Institutional Investor’s Alpha magazine, Browder explained that he didn’t give up his U.S. citizenship for tax reasons but because his then wife was English and because he liked the UK. “ I did not do it for tax reasons,” he insisted: “My tax bill was roughly the same either way.” 179 Four years later, Browder thought up a better explanation. During his deposition in the U.S.A. vs. Prevezon lawsuit it turned out that Browder gave up his U.S. citizenship just as the laws about reporting foreign income came into effect. Browder pretended that he was not aware of this and explained instead that he gave up U.S. citizenship because his family had been persecuted in the United States during the McCarthy era:

    Mr. Cymrot: You gave up your U.S. citizenship in 1998, right?
    Browder: Correct.
    Mr. Cymrot: Just as the laws about reporting foreign income came into effect; is that right?
    Browder: I don’t know.
    Mr. Cymrot: Why did you give up your U.S. citizenship in 1998?
    Browder: I immigrated to the U.K. ten years earlier.
    Mr. Cymrot: So the U.K. required you to give up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: No.
    Mr. Cymrot: So why did you give up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: Personal reasons.
    Mr. Cymrot: And what are those personal reasons?
    Browder: My family was persecuted during the McCarthy era.
    Mr Cymrot: And your father is the head of the economics department where, what university?
    Browder: He’s not –
    Mr. Cymrot: Where was he?
    Browder: My father was a professor of mathematics at the University of Chicago.
    Mr. Cymrot: Was he the head of the department at some point?
    Browder: Yes
    Mr. Cymrot: And your uncle, what position did he have?
    Browder: He was a mathematician at Princeton.
    Mr. Cymrot: Head of the department at one point?
    Browder: Yes.
    Mr. Cymrot: But your concern that your family was persecuted, but they made it to the head of the department of two prestigious universities and that's why you gave up your U.S. citizenship?
    Browder: Yes
    Mr. Cymrot: What kind of persecution did you face?
    Browder: My grandmother was sick with cancer and the U.S. Government tried to deport her to Russia when she was dying.
    Mr. Cymrot: What year was that?
    Browder: In 1950 something.
    Mr. Cymrot: I see. And so in 1998, this all came back as a rush of emotion and you decided to give up your U.S. citizenship?

    Apparently, after Bill Browder gave up his U.S. citizenship, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service reinstated the great American tradition of persecuting the Browder family by placing Bill on a “name and shame” list of Americans who renounced their citizenship to avoid paying their taxes. Thankfully for him, he was by then living between Moscow and London, travelling on a British passport, safely out of reach of the American Gestapo.
     
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  • After reviewing the material presented here again and reading once more through the comments, I am astonished at how few references there are here to the events of 11 September 2001. That well-planned and executed event was most certainly a Hollywood production, a Jewish achievement from start to finish that forced millions of conservative Americans to support a Jewish lie. Yes, they did have Bush administration acquiescence and assistance, but it was a Larry Silverstein and Israeli explosive teams production all the way. This was an action designed to advance Israeli interests in ever so many ways, but perhaps their greatest achievement was to destroy the last vestiges of faith of the most intelligent of Americans in the future of their world. Believing the story of 9 11 became the litmus test for American loyalty. That hit was so totally, obviously, blatantly not a simple airplane hijacking. The fake nature of the event was so blatant and obvious to anyone with a brain from the very beginning that having to watch their own people swallow it and keep to the story after more than a decade – this has had a most destructive effect on bright Americans. Everyone with brains enough to see through that immediately was left completely frustrated and alone. This effect weeded out many thousands of America’s brightest people, leaving them intellectually isolated and unlikely to ever really use their talents and energy again in the public sphere.

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    For myself, emigration worked. I can't speak for the rest.
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  • @Art

    That appears to be very short-sighted thinking on their part – piss off the world and flee to a small country and be concentrated in a small space surrounded by enemies, requiring just a handful of bombs to achieve what Hitler is falsely accused of trying to do. I thought they were supposed to be high IQ…
     
    C&D,

    Without question the craziest aspect of the Jews is their “Samson plan” to nuke and kill all of humanity if they are in danger of fatal attack.

    Just think, that Jew that you are sitting next too wants to kill you and everyone else on the planet. He wants to end humanity. His leaders are planning this today. It is not an ideal threat – they have five nuclear capable subs (soon to be six) plying the seas ready to strike at any time.

    I don’t like to be one of those who says we are all stupid – but we no not even have the gonads to ask them about their nukes.

    Think Peace --- Art

    For some time now it has to me seemed possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity. They would leave perhaps 2% for the sake of diversity useful for their own survival. Would people intentionally setting off wars that killed millions not do this too? They released Communism and nuclear weapons technology in the 20th century. Do you not think it dangerous to underestimate what they might do, given what they have just done? Go visit Israel and talk with Israelis. Their level of arrogance will scare you.

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    For some time now it has to me seemed possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity.
     
    Mike Garrett,

    I would like to think that some Jew would rat them out. But then I can be over optimistic at times.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. I don't think we could count on Jerry S.

    , @SolontoCroesus

    Do you not think it dangerous to underestimate what they might do, given what they have just done? Go visit Israel and talk with Israelis. Their level of arrogance will scare you.
     
    Abby Martin's walk-and-talk in Zion Square in Jerusalem last Fall offered some compelling insights into the Jewish Israeli psyche

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e_dbsVQrk4&feature=youtu.be

    About 2/3 of the way into the video, Martin speaks with an older man w/white hair. Their exchange:


    Old man: shouting: “Where are the Palestinian people during 4000 years and the Ottoman empire? Answer me that."
    Abby: "I’ the journalist —"
    Man: "aaaaahhhhh
    And how God punished [our] sins?
    By other people.
    He sent the Nazis and now he sends Palestinians."

     
    Here's what's compelling -- and frightening -- about that brief exchange: With exquisite economy tt mimics and describes the ideological -- or pathological -- mindset Douglas Reed traced to Deuteronomy and the Levites, and summarized in ch. 3 of Controversy of Zion, The Levites and The Law :

    “Deuteronomy employs this Doublespeak (to use the modem idiom) throughout: the Lord makes the special people homeless [or otherwise punishes them] among the heathen for their transgressions; the heathen, who have no blame either for their exile or for those transgressions, are their "persecutors "; ergo, the heathen will be destroyed.

    The Judaist attitude towards other mankind, creation, and the universe in general, is better understood when these and related passages have been pondered, and especially the constant plaint that Jews are "persecuted" everywhere, which in one tone or another runs through nearly all Jewish literature. To any who accept this book as The Law, the mere existence of others is in fact persecution; Deuteronomy plainly implies that.
     

    Elitecomminc insists, without evidence or reference, nor by filling in the appropriate context, that "Germans scapegoated Jews" and persecuted Jews because that is the conviction Elitecomminc's Hebraic indoctrination process has demanded for all of the history of the Hebrew/Yehud/Jewish people.
    , @SolontoCroesus

    Possible, probable even, that the arrogance of Israel will be so extreme that they will inoculate their own people against a devastating engineered virus that they they can release to wipe out 98% of the rest of humanity. They would leave perhaps 2% for the sake of diversity useful for their own survival.
     
    First of all, Mike Garrett, I'm at a loss how to think about you. I pulled apart some of your earlier comments rather harshly, and it may be that I owe you an apology.
    But I'm still suspicious of your plea that Christian churches rescue "religious" Jews, particularly since you framed it thus:

    The vast majority of of the Jews who will be available for arrest and camps will be nearly as innocent as the Moravians.
     
    Moravians are pretty obscure.

    Here's what Douglas Reed wrote in Controversy of Zion about Moravians vis a vis Jews:

    Two examples from our present time illustrate the effect of the Talmud, many centuries after its compilation.
    The brothers Thoreau in their books give the diligent student some rare glimpses behind the Talmudic walls; in one book they depict the little Jewish boy in Poland who had been taught to spit, quite mechanically, as he passed the wayside Calvary and to say, "Cursed be thou who created another religion".
    In 1953, in New York, a young missionary of the Moravian Church in Jerusalem described the seizure by the Zionists of the Moravian leper home there, called "The Jesus Mission"; their first act was to putty over the name "Jesus" which for more than a hundred years had been inscribed above its door.

    Such incidents as these (and the ban on the mention of the name Jesus) derive directly from the teaching of the Talmud, which in effect was another "New Law" with a specifically anti-Christian application. For this reason the next period in the story of Zion is best described as that of the Talmudists, the former ones being those of the Pharisees and of the Levites.
     
    It is terrifying that these sentiments are still so deeply ingrained in the Jewish psyche. In the Abby Martin video, Jewish persons, male and female, old and young, from USA and (apparently) sabra, all gave voice to the belief that Arabs must to die: "Gaza should be carpet bombed;" "Jews have a right to hate Arabs;" "kill all the Arabs" was punctuated with laughter.

    This is a sick society and a danger to the world.

    re: Your mention of the possibility that Israel would not feel constrained from releasing bio-chem agents to kill much of the world:
    1. When he appeared before a Congressional committee to urge the Congress to support George Bush in waging war on Iraq, Benjamin Netanyahu demanded that US Congress supply Israelis with gas masks and other protective supplies to ensure that no Israelis be harmed. The US Congress complied with Netanyahu's demand.

    2. In 2004, the George Bush administration funded Project BioShield: What It Is, Why It Is Needed, and Its Accomplishments So Far.

    In 2014, the Obama administration raided Project BioShield funds

    "to offset the costs of a legal settlement with black farmers and American Indians, to increase education aid to the states and to develop a vaccine for swine flu.

    To get those billions, they looked to the same coffer: Project BioShield, a $5.6 billion fund created specifically to prepare America for a bioterrorist attack and develop treatments for deadly viruses such as Ebola. http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/25/white-house-congress-raided-hundreds-millions-anti-bioterrorism-project-targets-included-ebola/
     
    I'm unable to find the specific clip, but yesterday or today an advocate for Project BioShield was interviewed on C Span. He noted that the fund was just about drained; that public funding rather than private financing of such a project was necessary because the threat was speculative; the possible market might be very small, but the investment substantial -- far greater than the investment community would be willing to underwrite based on risk-reward.

    So the possibility that Israel would release a chemical toxin or a biological virus, either out of the depths of Levitic pathology or as a means of generating revenue -- Israel already controls major pharmaceutical sources of revenue -- is not unthinkable.

    So thanks for raising the issue, Mike Garrett.
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  • @SolontoCroesus

    How many thresholds does your house have? What sort of world do you live in?
     
    Which house?

    Which house?

    The house with Jews in the attic, Jews in the basement and Jews in the closet. The one where Jews jump out from behind every curtain and door. The one where Jews come up out of the drain. The one where Jews bang on your window pane.

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    Hello iffen,

    S2C’s being coy.

    He’s in his bunker, where (like a submarine) every door has a threshold.

    Best.
    , @helena
    Sounds like Notting Hill in the 50-60s:

    "he also subdivided large properties into flats and let rooms, initially often for prostitution. Much of this area, south of Westbourne Park Road, having become derelict, was compulsorily purchased by Westminster City Council in the late 1960s and was demolished in 1973–74 to make way for the Wessex Gardens estate.[6][7]
    According to his biographer, Shirley Green, Rachman moved the protected tenants into a smaller concentration of properties or bought them out to minimise the number of tenancies with statutory rent controls. Houses were also subdivided into a number of flats to increase the number of tenancies without rent controls.[8] He then filled the properties with recent immigrants from the West Indies. Rachman's initial reputation, which he even promoted in the media, was as someone who could help to find and provide accommodation for immigrants. However, some suggested he was overcharging West Indians, as they did not have the same protection under the law as had the previous ones.
    By 1958 he had largely moved out of slum-landlording into property development, but his former henchmen, including the equally-notorious Michael de Freitas (aka Michael X/Abdul Malik), who created a reputation as a black-power leader, and Johnny Edgecombe, who became a promoter of jazz and blues, helped to keep him in the limelight.[9][10] A special police unit was set up to investigate Rachman in 1959, and uncovered a network of 33 companies controlling his property empire.[5] They also discovered Rachman was involved in prostitution and he was prosecuted twice for brothel-keeping.[11]
    Rachman did not achieve general notoriety until after his death, when the Profumo Affair of 1963 hit the headlines and it emerged that both Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice-Davies had been his mistresses, and that he had owned the mews house in Marylebone where Rice-Davies and Keeler had stayed.
    As full details of his activities were revealed, there was a call for new legislation to prevent such practices, led by Ben Parkin, MP for Paddington North, who coined the term "Rachmanism". The subsequent Rent Act 1965 gave security to tenants."


    But also:
    "Rachman was born in Lwów, Poland, in 1919, the son of a Jewish dentist.[1] After the German invasion of Poland in 1939, Rachman may have joined the Polish resistance.[2] He was first interned by the Germans and, after escaping across the Soviet border, was reinterned in a Soviet labour camp in Siberia and cruelly treated.[3] After the Germans declared war on the Soviet Union in 1941, Rachman and other Polish prisoners joined the 2nd Polish Corps and fought on behalf of the Allies in the Middle East and Italy. After the war he stayed with his unit, which remained as an occupying force in Italy until 1946 when they transferred to Britain. Rachman was eventually demobilised in 1948 and became a British resident.[4]"

    So the picture is complex.

    [extracts from Wiki]

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  • @Art
    People here – and only here – talk of little else.

    ONLY HERE?

    Oh dear'- how you Jews can lie - every day there are more intelligent people getting on to you Jews. Every day now, there are more YouTube personalities banging Jews and Israel, more gutsy blogs taking on you Jews.

    You own the top because you buy them – but only the top – the elite upper middle’s loyalty is an inch deep – they will turn on you in a NY minute.

    People are seeing who is crying for more war – JEWS. How long will it be before someone will ask a warmonger “are you a Jew?”

    You Jews are responsible for 9/11, the Iraq war and aftermath, and the nuke Samson threat to the world.

    Buck up boy!

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. You Jews are fighting fighting fighting – but the American people do not even know that there is a war going on – that is changing.

    every day there are more intelligent people getting on to you Jews.

    ROTFL

    Stop it Arts!

    I can’t take it anymore.

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  • @iffen
    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Well, why didn't you just say so at the beginning?

    What's all they coy hemming and hawing about?

    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated

    Wait a minute. You are making me dizzy. How many thresholds does your house have? What sort of world do you live in?

    How many thresholds does your house have? What sort of world do you live in?

    Which house?

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    Which house?

    The house with Jews in the attic, Jews in the basement and Jews in the closet. The one where Jews jump out from behind every curtain and door. The one where Jews come up out of the drain. The one where Jews bang on your window pane.

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  • Long before I became “Jew-wise” I would often wonder why people despised Jews so much. Like many out there I had been indoctrinated through countless documentaries and movies produced by you-know-who to believe that Jews were persecuted only because they were Jewish. I was taught through Jew-produced and directed movies and documentaries that there were a whole slew of evil “anti-Semites” out there who hated these humble, angelic, totally innocent people just because of their ethnicity and/or religion. Never did I see, hear, or read about the Jewish takeover in the Soviet Union or the Holodomor. Never did I hear, see or read about Jewish bankers like Jacob Schiff bankrolling the Bolshevik takeover in Russia. Never did I know about Jews being behind every manufactured so-called “liberal” movement designed to bring this country to its knees for over a century now. Never did I hear, see or read of the Jewish hatred for White Gentiles. I well know now that Jews are the polar opposite of how they are portrayed in all those bullsheet movies about WWII and/or the Holocaust. Innocent victims? Bwaaa haaaa. Yeah right, just like Blacks are totally innocent also.

    Jews are the biggest mass murderers in history. The Commie bolsheviks killed more then 60 million people,mostly Christians. You have Jews like Michael Savage who brings up The Holocaust™,Hitler, Germany and Israel on a daily basis on his show,but will never brings up the murdering jews of the 20th century.Lazar Kaganovich,a Jew had 20 million people killed in the Ukrain during the Russian revolution,not one word from the Jews in the media. Genrikh Yagoda,another jew had many millions more killed,mostly Christians and not one word from the JEWS in the media and in the talk show world. Kaganovich had 20 times as many people killed then Hitler and the Jews don’t call this a Holocaust. The reason it’s never mentioned is the jews were the murderers and the people killed were 90% Christians. The Jews are behind the destruction of this country. The Talmud is the Jews holy of holy books and it’s very anti-Christian.

    This is the main reason that when the German forces of WW2 marched into the communist-occupied countries, they were met as “liberators”.
    It is no secret that the population of these countries were then free to go after their oppressors–their former jewish “commissars”. The occupying German forces did not have to root out the “enemy”. The local residents knew who they were and “helped” the Germans “take care of business”–only to be “sold out” by the Americans and the British in the post-war “agreements” that gave eastern Europe to the communist jews. As far as I am concerned, we were on the “wrong side” of WW2. If we had helped Germany roll into the Soviet Union, we would not have had a “cold War”. Of course, we would have also solved our “jewish problem”–NOT with a “holocaust ™”, but with deportations. . .

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  • @Incitatus

    “you’d like to change the subject? I wonder why that is?”
     
    Simple. There are larger challenges to our future.

    “People are finally mustering the courage to talk about the pink elephant/800 lb gorilla in the room…”
     
    People here – and only here - talk of little else. The same poor, tired beast in every breath. Flogged week after week. Month after month. Over, over, over and over. PETA alert!

    Meanwhile the building burns down.

    I support ME policy reform. That’s not the largest crop in Dr. Phil’s garden. Readers seem mostly bereft of constructive suggestions. Conspiracies and scapegoats, on the other hand, reign supreme, cherished like pure gold.

    You – first generation Greco-Canadian - want to end diversity, place yourself among the select and create a Euro-Ethno-State. A homogenous, exclusive nation. Details to follow. Crisis immanent, outrage over ‘the Lobby’ (wink-wink) essential. Power follows. An arsonist-would-be-fire chief. Focus solely on the scapegoat. Nothing less will do. No other problem exists.

    Planet Germanians may share your vision. Hard to say, given juvenile passion for crackpot history and Nazi necrophilia. Most reinvent Ludendorff’s Dolchstoßlegende. We are victims of notorious perfidy, must fight the [name your favorite here] culprits. Focus your anger. Forget individual rights or independent thought. We must return to ‘Ein Volk’ - a state of drab uniformity, unquestioning obedience, blessed dictatorship. Ah, the good old race-baiting days. What could be better?

    Naturally, Wilson, FDR, Churchill – controlled by Jews, Jews, and more Jews – started 20C WWs. Details on how they forced Germans to invade (telekinesis?) are scarce, but nobody’s perfect. Scapegoating well past the sell-by-date. Repeated week after week, month after month. Sorry. “Die fahne hoch” gets boring after a few choruses. Just my opinion.

    Take a tip from Anders Behring Breivik. Shares your terror of diversity and ‘Cultural Marxism’. Follows Odin, dislikes feminism, obsessed with Robert Spencer. Sound familiar? Did his best to prevent ‘white genocide’. Admires ‘exclusive’ Israel – it’s all he wants Norway to be. No need for smoke and mirrors. Has “narcissistic personality disorder”, likes video games and the Hitlergruß. Common Planet Germania traits? Murdered to create outrage necessary for his ethno-state. Thanks for not doing that (yet). Leave it to your colleague:

    “Do not go gently into the sinister night. Rage, rage against those who have harmed us. Anger focuses the mind, and hatred motivates action.”
     
    Quit the video games! Light the tiki-torches! Break out flags and hobnail boots!

    Dr. Phil wants his country back (or something to that effect). Agree we should avoid “passionate attachments.” Are they the only danger? Remember health care? A Stanford University Hospital room cost $7.50/day in 1939. Prices have increased an average 10.44%/year. US GDP should be $2,690.0 trillion and average annual income $2,868,341 at the that rate. Guess what? Premiums and deductibles just went up again by double digits. What were you saying about elephants and gorillas?

    “Keep ‘em coming, Phil. You are like fine wine, you get better with age!”
     
    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?

    “P.S. I especially liked your use of the term goyim. Perhaps in future, you might even adopt the use of my trademark phrase, The Dumb Goyim, in one of your articles.”
     
    You should consider a “tax deductible educational foundation’. After all, 501(c)(3) status is good enough for AIPAC, AEI, AE9/11Truth and Dr. Phil. How about DGI – Dumb Goyim Institute? Don’t worry. “Educational foundations” hold no classes, grant no degrees and need only believe in tax avoidance. AE9/11Truth took in $834,619 in tax deductible contributions. Not bad for Dick Gage, otherwise an undistinguished architect. Doubtless his foundation will last a (profitable) lifetime. DGI’s could too, Geo.

    People here – and only here – talk of little else.

    ONLY HERE?

    Oh dear’- how you Jews can lie – every day there are more intelligent people getting on to you Jews. Every day now, there are more YouTube personalities banging Jews and Israel, more gutsy blogs taking on you Jews.

    You own the top because you buy them – but only the top – the elite upper middle’s loyalty is an inch deep – they will turn on you in a NY minute.

    People are seeing who is crying for more war – JEWS. How long will it be before someone will ask a warmonger “are you a Jew?”

    You Jews are responsible for 9/11, the Iraq war and aftermath, and the nuke Samson threat to the world.

    Buck up boy!

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. You Jews are fighting fighting fighting – but the American people do not even know that there is a war going on – that is changing.

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    every day there are more intelligent people getting on to you Jews.

    ROTFL

    Stop it Arts!

    I can't take it anymore.
    , @Incitatus
    Art,

    Eight on the HebrewMeter!

    Congratulations, you’re improving!

    I’d remind you I’m not Jewish, but what’s the use?

    Treat yourself to a philosophic bagel!
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  • @Incitatus

    “you’d like to change the subject? I wonder why that is?”
     
    Simple. There are larger challenges to our future.

    “People are finally mustering the courage to talk about the pink elephant/800 lb gorilla in the room…”
     
    People here – and only here - talk of little else. The same poor, tired beast in every breath. Flogged week after week. Month after month. Over, over, over and over. PETA alert!

    Meanwhile the building burns down.

    I support ME policy reform. That’s not the largest crop in Dr. Phil’s garden. Readers seem mostly bereft of constructive suggestions. Conspiracies and scapegoats, on the other hand, reign supreme, cherished like pure gold.

    You – first generation Greco-Canadian - want to end diversity, place yourself among the select and create a Euro-Ethno-State. A homogenous, exclusive nation. Details to follow. Crisis immanent, outrage over ‘the Lobby’ (wink-wink) essential. Power follows. An arsonist-would-be-fire chief. Focus solely on the scapegoat. Nothing less will do. No other problem exists.

    Planet Germanians may share your vision. Hard to say, given juvenile passion for crackpot history and Nazi necrophilia. Most reinvent Ludendorff’s Dolchstoßlegende. We are victims of notorious perfidy, must fight the [name your favorite here] culprits. Focus your anger. Forget individual rights or independent thought. We must return to ‘Ein Volk’ - a state of drab uniformity, unquestioning obedience, blessed dictatorship. Ah, the good old race-baiting days. What could be better?

    Naturally, Wilson, FDR, Churchill – controlled by Jews, Jews, and more Jews – started 20C WWs. Details on how they forced Germans to invade (telekinesis?) are scarce, but nobody’s perfect. Scapegoating well past the sell-by-date. Repeated week after week, month after month. Sorry. “Die fahne hoch” gets boring after a few choruses. Just my opinion.

    Take a tip from Anders Behring Breivik. Shares your terror of diversity and ‘Cultural Marxism’. Follows Odin, dislikes feminism, obsessed with Robert Spencer. Sound familiar? Did his best to prevent ‘white genocide’. Admires ‘exclusive’ Israel – it’s all he wants Norway to be. No need for smoke and mirrors. Has “narcissistic personality disorder”, likes video games and the Hitlergruß. Common Planet Germania traits? Murdered to create outrage necessary for his ethno-state. Thanks for not doing that (yet). Leave it to your colleague:

    “Do not go gently into the sinister night. Rage, rage against those who have harmed us. Anger focuses the mind, and hatred motivates action.”
     
    Quit the video games! Light the tiki-torches! Break out flags and hobnail boots!

    Dr. Phil wants his country back (or something to that effect). Agree we should avoid “passionate attachments.” Are they the only danger? Remember health care? A Stanford University Hospital room cost $7.50/day in 1939. Prices have increased an average 10.44%/year. US GDP should be $2,690.0 trillion and average annual income $2,868,341 at the that rate. Guess what? Premiums and deductibles just went up again by double digits. What were you saying about elephants and gorillas?

    “Keep ‘em coming, Phil. You are like fine wine, you get better with age!”
     
    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?

    “P.S. I especially liked your use of the term goyim. Perhaps in future, you might even adopt the use of my trademark phrase, The Dumb Goyim, in one of your articles.”
     
    You should consider a “tax deductible educational foundation’. After all, 501(c)(3) status is good enough for AIPAC, AEI, AE9/11Truth and Dr. Phil. How about DGI – Dumb Goyim Institute? Don’t worry. “Educational foundations” hold no classes, grant no degrees and need only believe in tax avoidance. AE9/11Truth took in $834,619 in tax deductible contributions. Not bad for Dick Gage, otherwise an undistinguished architect. Doubtless his foundation will last a (profitable) lifetime. DGI’s could too, Geo.

    Simple. There are larger challenges to our future.

    Larger than that posed by the “special relationship” which may bring us to the brink of nuclear annihilation if The Lobby gets it way in demonizing Putin as the next Hitler and Russia as the revanchist empire.

    Meanwhile the building burns down.

    I support ME policy reform.

    Could you elaborate a bit about what reform you have in mind?

    You – first generation Greco-Canadian – want to end diversity, place yourself among the select and create a Euro-Ethno-State. A homogenous, exclusive nation. Details to follow.

    There you go again. Repealing the mass immigration laws is the equivalent of establishing planet Germania in your mind. As your good buddy once put it, it is all in the numbers. A little salt in the stew is pleasing… too much and it spoils the dish.

    An arsonist-would-be-fire chief. Focus solely on the scapegoat. Nothing less will do. No other problem exists.

    Back to the arsonist analogy, I see. As you know, The Lobby is chiefly responsible for setting things on fire. I’m just a dumb goy trying to put out the flames with a small bucket of water.

    We must return to ‘Ein Volk’ – a state of drab uniformity, unquestioning obedience, blessed dictatorship. Ah, the good old race-baiting days. What could be better?

    I see. You are a proponent of Diversity Is Our Strength meme? Rather than closing the floodgates, you’re content if the European and European-derived countries become minorities… one of many cultures in a multicultural dreamland? Did you happen to read Lawrence Auster’s Path To National Suicide? If so, I suggest you give it another, more careful, read this time.

    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?

    Not sure what role The Lobby played in Iran ’53, but there is no doubt it took centre stage in the other theatres of war you listed.

    You should consider a “tax deductible educational foundation’. After all, 501(c)(3) status is good enough for AIPAC,… How about DGI – Dumb Goyim Institute?

    That’s the best advice you’ve proffered yet, Incy. I’ll have to follow-up with The Lobby to get the scoop on how to go about setting something like this up. Thanks!

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    “Larger [challenges] than that posed by the “special relationship” which may bring us to the brink of nuclear annihilation…"
     
    Sky is falling, sky is falling!

    Russia? Where’d that come from? Couldn’t think a way to link ‘the Lobby’ to Jerry Chun Shing Lee and China? Work on it. Loved your Lobby-US-North Korea spiel. Better than Dr. Strangelove.

    “Could you elaborate a bit about what [ME] reform you have in mind?”
     
    Again? Scroll through the archive. For Israel/Palestine:
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-obstacle-to-peace/#comment-1558317

    Your ME list starts with US immigration reform. Why? How does HC repeal help Pals?

    Geo, you’re not interested in ME solutions. You need crisis to create outrage, like picking the scab off a wound. Then you play doctor.

    “Repealing the mass immigration laws is the equivalent of establishing planet Germania…”
     
    Read your colleagues’ posts.“Rage, rage against those who have harmed us. Anger focuses the mind, and hatred motivates action.” “Die fahne hoch…” “If we had helped Germany…we would have also solved our “jewish problem.” Etc. Your pal Richard Spencer is honest:

    “For us “immigration” is a proxy for race…The ideal I advocate is the creation of a White Ethno-State on the North American continent…We must give up the false dreams of equality and democracy… We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created unequal…Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory.”
     
    Sounds like Planet Germania to me.

    “The Lobby is chiefly responsible for setting things on fire…”
     
    ‘The Lobby’ is the best thing that ever happened to you. Your very own pet scapegoat. Flogging it is leverage to power.

    “You are a proponent of Diversity Is Our Strength meme?”
     
    I’m for individual thought, freedom and rights. Value based on merit and accomplishment. Mother and apple pie. Gasbag theories and crackpot history have little appeal. Though lectures on “our culture” are entertaining. Were your kin at Plymouth or Yorktown?

    "Did you happen to read Lawrence Auster’s Path To National Suicide?"
     
    This Lawrence Auster:

    "I have always called myself a racialist, which to me means two things. First, as a general proposition, I think that race matters in all kinds of ways. Second, I care about the white race. It is the source of and is inseparable from everything we are, everything we have, and everything our civilization has achieved."
     
    Amazing he made a living, but suppose a BA in English gives few options. How often did he launder his hood and robe?

    BTW do you guys have all apostate Jews on your rolodex?

    “there is no doubt it [the Lobby] took centre stage in the other theatres of war you listed…”
     
    Really? The CIA had nothing to do with them? Are you sure? Sources please.

    Whoops, forgot we concentrate only on ‘the Lobby’. Sorry.

    “I’ll have to follow-up with The Lobby to get the scoop on how to go about setting something like this [tax exempt educational foundation] up.”
     
    By all means. Why not ask Dr. Phil?

    Geo, appreciate your tone, but don’t you get tired of the same old strawmen? Suppose – like Auster - it’s all you have. Knock yourself out!
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Rurik said to me: "I know all of that must sound silly to you, but we’re one year in and Assad’s still there, Turkey is bombing Israel’s Kurdish faction, and old alliances are coming apart at the seams."

    Hi Rurik,

    Re; above, nothing sounds "silly" to because of all the Zio Deception and I believe global Jewish Zionists maintain a modicum of control as it appears "old alliances" are coming "apart at the seams."

    I hate to draw you away from Phil Giraldi's important article, but please consider a look at the comment-action developing on the Saker's latest which focused on the strange fact that Russia does not retaliate against Israel when their crews bomb southern-based (Assad aligned) Syrian operations.

    You will take special interest when you read Andrei Matyanov's comment which referenced the UNIQUE but somewhat obscured work of Israel Shamir.

    Thanks, Rurik & all the best to you and others here!

    You will take special interest when you read Andrei Matyanov’s comment which referenced the UNIQUE but somewhat obscured work of Israel Shamir.

    Hey Chuck! Links, please!

    If you like to read history, you’ll like this.:

    -Douglas Reed, “the Controversy of Zion,” (~1956)

    https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt

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  • @Kenny
    Read some history. The Arabs stole the land first.

    Read some history. The Arabs stole the land first.

    Read some history. The Arabs don’t control the USA, and if they did, it wouldn’t be used as a police agent for degenerates.

    Ziojerks go home!

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  • @Rurik
    Hey Chuck,

    President Putin is preparing to sell his comrades “down the river.”

    Not so here in ZUS homeland!
     
    yes, but please consider..

    what are the chances that Putin would have been installed if Rothschild imagined for one fraction of a second that he'd turn out to be a Russian nationalist?

    Putin caught them off guard once he set up a praetorian guard in the Kremlin.

    Hope springs eternal..

    I consider your less than enthusiastic opinion of Trump perfectly reasonable and rational, knowing all we know. I just have to cling to some shred of ephemeral, ethereal hope, because the alternative seems a bit too bleak for me.

    And when the day comes.. if Trump bombs Iran, or crosses some other Rubicon, then I'll ruefully join you in your realism, but until then, I'm watching to see where this goes..

    https://www.rt.com/news/416498-turkey-bombs-kurds-afrin-fsa/

    (first brought to my attention by someone here on Unz)

    I'm hoping that the current debacle vis-a-vis the 'Russian collusion', FBI collaboration, ends up with Comey's and Hillary's indictment. I'm hoping that it will mushroom and bring the neocons down with her. Sort of like the me too# movement, only with subverting our democracy.

    I'm hoping that Trump too builds a praetorian guard, and surrounds himself with generals and CIA heads and operatives that are loyal to him, vs. the deepstate.

    I know all of that must sound silly to you, but we're one year in and Assad's still there, Turkey is bombing Israel's Kurdish faction, and old alliances are coming apart at the seams.

    Rurik ~ the Pollyanna

    Rurik said to me: “I know all of that must sound silly to you, but we’re one year in and Assad’s still there, Turkey is bombing Israel’s Kurdish faction, and old alliances are coming apart at the seams.”

    Hi Rurik,

    Re; above, nothing sounds “silly” to because of all the Zio Deception and I believe global Jewish Zionists maintain a modicum of control as it appears “old alliances” are coming “apart at the seams.”

    I hate to draw you away from Phil Giraldi’s important article, but please consider a look at the comment-action developing on the Saker’s latest which focused on the strange fact that Russia does not retaliate against Israel when their crews bomb southern-based (Assad aligned) Syrian operations.

    You will take special interest when you read Andrei Matyanov’s comment which referenced the UNIQUE but somewhat obscured work of Israel Shamir.

    Thanks, Rurik & all the best to you and others here!

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    You will take special interest when you read Andrei Matyanov’s comment which referenced the UNIQUE but somewhat obscured work of Israel Shamir.
     
    Hey Chuck! Links, please!

    If you like to read history, you'll like this.:

    -Douglas Reed, “the Controversy of Zion,” (~1956)

    https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt
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  • @SolontoCroesus

    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances.
     
    In fact, RobinG, and as you may know or should well know, S2 (I speak only for my avatar) has engaged in alliance - building-- in the early 1990s I created a group to introduce more representative religious programming on TV in my community. The leadership team I recruited included Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Unitarians, United Methodists, Mormons-- I shared a podium with Jack Anderson at a 3-day Harvest Fest at Mormon Temple. When J-Street was an embryo I and the Pax Christi group I was part of participated in J-Street training at Jewish community centers and synagogues; we went together to JCC when Jews trotted out Izzeldin Abuelaish in a dog-and-pony show to demonstrate how virtuous Jews were; Pax Christi organized a potluck dinner to be held at my home to which representatives of five different Christian and Jewish churches/synagogues were invited -- the Christian groups all were enthusiastic, no Jewish group accepted the invitation.

    I've hosted Iranian authors and arranged 'religious-cultural exchange' between Roman Catholics and Muslims at which scholars from prestigious universities discussed the congruences in literature and poetry from their separate traditions.

    As you know, I've done street-protest (a waste of time except for having met some interesting people), participated in memorials to victims.

    As somebody elsewhere on this thread (iirc) said, Jews don't respond to rational arguments, they're for the powerless, Jews take the power position from the outset. I've wasted my time -- at greater personal cost than you can imagine -- engaging in what I honestly thought was "Christian" or "golden rule"-based collegiality. Nothing bore fruit.

    . . . relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances . . . ?
    Firstly, I don't see that those in my position have ever been in the center of the room; I see my activities as working a way out of the corner.

    Second, One does not make alliances with the enemy. Cloak And Dagger posted a passionate comment here http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whats-wrong-with-liberal-jews/#comment-2170043 including the appropriateness of "hating." Sam Shama took offense. But Shama posted no response to the Abby Martin video where Jewish Americans- now- Israelis giggled as they urged "kill all Arabs," while other Israeli Jews declared Jews had the right to hate Arabs, and that Gaza should be carpet bombed.

    I struggle not to react with hate when my blood boils at the outrageous inhumanity Jews in Israel and Jews in US, including Jews in positions of power and influence, mete out against Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, and Germans. I was raised not to hate. But I do hate what Jews have done and are doing to my own Italian culture, in Italy as also in USA and elsewhere, and to the American form of Constitutional Republicanism.

    In a talk at London Forum in 2016 E Michael Jones told the audience, "the gospels of my religion tell to Love my Enemies. It's hard, I know. But I love Jews! It's what my religion tells me to do!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc

    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Earlier, Jones said that "Catholics internalize the demands of their oppressors."
    So do most of us; it is extremely uncomfortable to stand toe-to-toe with someone who can harm you or, worst of all, harm your children, and say, What you are doing is wrong and criminal; you are my enemy."

    Far from our "special relation," or our "perpetual ally," Israel is inimical to most of what USA stands for.
    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated, not least to US Congress: When you, Mr. Congressman, give money to Israel to use to kill Palestinians, you are complicit in murder. The person/entity that elicits that collaboration is not your friend, does not represent your values nor the founding principles of your government, they are your enemy. For you to support them is to support an enemy to the American people.

    If a teen-aged, unarmed, impoverished Palestinian girl could stand up to her enemy, why can't we?
    Why can't the US Congress?

    There’s a world of difference between saying we shouldn’t give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
     
    Two more points:
    First, re: "we shouldn't give Israel so much support." How much support should one give to an enemy? In your estimation, how far into your house should you invite a thief, or a murderer?

    Second, re: asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
    They did (as to WWII), and there wasn't -- not as to Jews. There was a holocaust of Germans, and Japanese.

    Take a look at Patrick Cockburn's current article to see why it is still important to drive that point home, relentlessly, objectively, passionately and with no quarter given. It’s Time We Saw Sanctions for What They Really Are – War Crimes, with special attention to comment #2.

    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Well, why didn’t you just say so at the beginning?

    What’s all they coy hemming and hawing about?

    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated

    Wait a minute. You are making me dizzy. How many thresholds does your house have? What sort of world do you live in?

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    How many thresholds does your house have? What sort of world do you live in?
     
    Which house?
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  • Read some history. The Arabs stole the land first.

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    Read some history. The Arabs stole the land first.
     
    Read some history. The Arabs don't control the USA, and if they did, it wouldn't be used as a police agent for degenerates.

    Ziojerks go home!
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  • @Sam Shama
    [Hate them, my fellow humans, with all the ferocity that you can muster, and then, hurl your bodies into the machinery thus stopping it. The fiend, as Rurik terms it, cannot be halted in any other way.]

    I sense you are in pain. The source of it remains shrouded in mystery. I know what you think causes the condition, but imho, you, as others here, are solely responsible for creating a parable replete with the requisite monsters in order to feed the need for masochism.

    As I travel these United States, I speak to people in the heartland, of matters which trouble and concern them. Never have I encountered anything vaguely resembling that which you incessantly recount here. Mostly, the concerns are of healthcare costs, college costs and lamentations about the loss of a way of life that used to prevail in the days past. Overwhelmingly, these people are a hearty lot, pleasant and deeply patriotic. They know what is good and what isn't for America. Nazism would find any purchase with them.

    You might find kindred souls amongst a narrow class of urban professionals of a certain age, now frustrated on account of difficulties for a variety of reasons, including international competition, but, these would be people whose Sturm und Drang, displayed e.g. on the UR, rapidly vanishes when faced with the possibility of exposure. These, my friend, are not your pools to prospect revolutionaries from.

    Anyway, hope to follow your progress with keen interest as you proceed to fling yourself into the 'machinery', wherever that happens to be.....

    As I travel these United States, I speak to people in the heartland, of matters which trouble and concern them. Never have I encountered anything vaguely resembling that which you incessantly recount here. Mostly, the concerns are of healthcare costs, college costs and lamentations about the loss of a way of life that used to prevail in the days past. Overwhelmingly, these people are a hearty lot, pleasant and deeply patriotic. They know what is good and what isn’t for America. Nazism would find any purchase with them.

    This can change overnight, once ISISRaelGate is exposed. According to VP Pence, the USA embassy will move to Jerusalem before the end of next year. He just gave us the time period of how soon ISISRaelGate will be exposed. Muller investigation cannot go on forever…

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances.
     
    In fact, RobinG, and as you may know or should well know, S2 (I speak only for my avatar) has engaged in alliance - building-- in the early 1990s I created a group to introduce more representative religious programming on TV in my community. The leadership team I recruited included Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Unitarians, United Methodists, Mormons-- I shared a podium with Jack Anderson at a 3-day Harvest Fest at Mormon Temple. When J-Street was an embryo I and the Pax Christi group I was part of participated in J-Street training at Jewish community centers and synagogues; we went together to JCC when Jews trotted out Izzeldin Abuelaish in a dog-and-pony show to demonstrate how virtuous Jews were; Pax Christi organized a potluck dinner to be held at my home to which representatives of five different Christian and Jewish churches/synagogues were invited -- the Christian groups all were enthusiastic, no Jewish group accepted the invitation.

    I've hosted Iranian authors and arranged 'religious-cultural exchange' between Roman Catholics and Muslims at which scholars from prestigious universities discussed the congruences in literature and poetry from their separate traditions.

    As you know, I've done street-protest (a waste of time except for having met some interesting people), participated in memorials to victims.

    As somebody elsewhere on this thread (iirc) said, Jews don't respond to rational arguments, they're for the powerless, Jews take the power position from the outset. I've wasted my time -- at greater personal cost than you can imagine -- engaging in what I honestly thought was "Christian" or "golden rule"-based collegiality. Nothing bore fruit.

    . . . relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances . . . ?
    Firstly, I don't see that those in my position have ever been in the center of the room; I see my activities as working a way out of the corner.

    Second, One does not make alliances with the enemy. Cloak And Dagger posted a passionate comment here http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whats-wrong-with-liberal-jews/#comment-2170043 including the appropriateness of "hating." Sam Shama took offense. But Shama posted no response to the Abby Martin video where Jewish Americans- now- Israelis giggled as they urged "kill all Arabs," while other Israeli Jews declared Jews had the right to hate Arabs, and that Gaza should be carpet bombed.

    I struggle not to react with hate when my blood boils at the outrageous inhumanity Jews in Israel and Jews in US, including Jews in positions of power and influence, mete out against Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, and Germans. I was raised not to hate. But I do hate what Jews have done and are doing to my own Italian culture, in Italy as also in USA and elsewhere, and to the American form of Constitutional Republicanism.

    In a talk at London Forum in 2016 E Michael Jones told the audience, "the gospels of my religion tell to Love my Enemies. It's hard, I know. But I love Jews! It's what my religion tells me to do!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc

    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Earlier, Jones said that "Catholics internalize the demands of their oppressors."
    So do most of us; it is extremely uncomfortable to stand toe-to-toe with someone who can harm you or, worst of all, harm your children, and say, What you are doing is wrong and criminal; you are my enemy."

    Far from our "special relation," or our "perpetual ally," Israel is inimical to most of what USA stands for.
    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated, not least to US Congress: When you, Mr. Congressman, give money to Israel to use to kill Palestinians, you are complicit in murder. The person/entity that elicits that collaboration is not your friend, does not represent your values nor the founding principles of your government, they are your enemy. For you to support them is to support an enemy to the American people.

    If a teen-aged, unarmed, impoverished Palestinian girl could stand up to her enemy, why can't we?
    Why can't the US Congress?

    There’s a world of difference between saying we shouldn’t give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
     
    Two more points:
    First, re: "we shouldn't give Israel so much support." How much support should one give to an enemy? In your estimation, how far into your house should you invite a thief, or a murderer?

    Second, re: asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
    They did (as to WWII), and there wasn't -- not as to Jews. There was a holocaust of Germans, and Japanese.

    Take a look at Patrick Cockburn's current article to see why it is still important to drive that point home, relentlessly, objectively, passionately and with no quarter given. It’s Time We Saw Sanctions for What They Really Are – War Crimes, with special attention to comment #2.

    Hello S2C,

    You are a true disciple of Prince of Peace (as). As it is said, “God plans and satan plans, and God is the best of the planner”!

    Keep your chin up and as well keep up the good work.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances.
     
    In fact, RobinG, and as you may know or should well know, S2 (I speak only for my avatar) has engaged in alliance - building-- in the early 1990s I created a group to introduce more representative religious programming on TV in my community. The leadership team I recruited included Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Unitarians, United Methodists, Mormons-- I shared a podium with Jack Anderson at a 3-day Harvest Fest at Mormon Temple. When J-Street was an embryo I and the Pax Christi group I was part of participated in J-Street training at Jewish community centers and synagogues; we went together to JCC when Jews trotted out Izzeldin Abuelaish in a dog-and-pony show to demonstrate how virtuous Jews were; Pax Christi organized a potluck dinner to be held at my home to which representatives of five different Christian and Jewish churches/synagogues were invited -- the Christian groups all were enthusiastic, no Jewish group accepted the invitation.

    I've hosted Iranian authors and arranged 'religious-cultural exchange' between Roman Catholics and Muslims at which scholars from prestigious universities discussed the congruences in literature and poetry from their separate traditions.

    As you know, I've done street-protest (a waste of time except for having met some interesting people), participated in memorials to victims.

    As somebody elsewhere on this thread (iirc) said, Jews don't respond to rational arguments, they're for the powerless, Jews take the power position from the outset. I've wasted my time -- at greater personal cost than you can imagine -- engaging in what I honestly thought was "Christian" or "golden rule"-based collegiality. Nothing bore fruit.

    . . . relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances . . . ?
    Firstly, I don't see that those in my position have ever been in the center of the room; I see my activities as working a way out of the corner.

    Second, One does not make alliances with the enemy. Cloak And Dagger posted a passionate comment here http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whats-wrong-with-liberal-jews/#comment-2170043 including the appropriateness of "hating." Sam Shama took offense. But Shama posted no response to the Abby Martin video where Jewish Americans- now- Israelis giggled as they urged "kill all Arabs," while other Israeli Jews declared Jews had the right to hate Arabs, and that Gaza should be carpet bombed.

    I struggle not to react with hate when my blood boils at the outrageous inhumanity Jews in Israel and Jews in US, including Jews in positions of power and influence, mete out against Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, and Germans. I was raised not to hate. But I do hate what Jews have done and are doing to my own Italian culture, in Italy as also in USA and elsewhere, and to the American form of Constitutional Republicanism.

    In a talk at London Forum in 2016 E Michael Jones told the audience, "the gospels of my religion tell to Love my Enemies. It's hard, I know. But I love Jews! It's what my religion tells me to do!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc

    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Earlier, Jones said that "Catholics internalize the demands of their oppressors."
    So do most of us; it is extremely uncomfortable to stand toe-to-toe with someone who can harm you or, worst of all, harm your children, and say, What you are doing is wrong and criminal; you are my enemy."

    Far from our "special relation," or our "perpetual ally," Israel is inimical to most of what USA stands for.
    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated, not least to US Congress: When you, Mr. Congressman, give money to Israel to use to kill Palestinians, you are complicit in murder. The person/entity that elicits that collaboration is not your friend, does not represent your values nor the founding principles of your government, they are your enemy. For you to support them is to support an enemy to the American people.

    If a teen-aged, unarmed, impoverished Palestinian girl could stand up to her enemy, why can't we?
    Why can't the US Congress?

    There’s a world of difference between saying we shouldn’t give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
     
    Two more points:
    First, re: "we shouldn't give Israel so much support." How much support should one give to an enemy? In your estimation, how far into your house should you invite a thief, or a murderer?

    Second, re: asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
    They did (as to WWII), and there wasn't -- not as to Jews. There was a holocaust of Germans, and Japanese.

    Take a look at Patrick Cockburn's current article to see why it is still important to drive that point home, relentlessly, objectively, passionately and with no quarter given. It’s Time We Saw Sanctions for What They Really Are – War Crimes, with special attention to comment #2.

    I’ve wasted my time — at greater personal cost than you can imagine — engaging in what I honestly thought was “Christian” or “golden rule”-based collegiality. Nothing bore fruit.

    That is so true.

    They don’t respond to healthy human interaction. Their default position seems to be that you’re a sucker if you give’em an inch. If you do that, they’ll get as much as they can out of you then laugh and sneer about it.

    They call us dumb goyim “animals” but they’re the ones who only respond well to being handled that way. Arrogant, cocky, sneering, domineering jokers. Handle them as anything else at your own peril!

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    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances.
     
    In fact, RobinG, and as you may know or should well know, S2 (I speak only for my avatar) has engaged in alliance - building-- in the early 1990s I created a group to introduce more representative religious programming on TV in my community. The leadership team I recruited included Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Unitarians, United Methodists, Mormons-- I shared a podium with Jack Anderson at a 3-day Harvest Fest at Mormon Temple. When J-Street was an embryo I and the Pax Christi group I was part of participated in J-Street training at Jewish community centers and synagogues; we went together to JCC when Jews trotted out Izzeldin Abuelaish in a dog-and-pony show to demonstrate how virtuous Jews were; Pax Christi organized a potluck dinner to be held at my home to which representatives of five different Christian and Jewish churches/synagogues were invited -- the Christian groups all were enthusiastic, no Jewish group accepted the invitation.

    I've hosted Iranian authors and arranged 'religious-cultural exchange' between Roman Catholics and Muslims at which scholars from prestigious universities discussed the congruences in literature and poetry from their separate traditions.

    As you know, I've done street-protest (a waste of time except for having met some interesting people), participated in memorials to victims.

    As somebody elsewhere on this thread (iirc) said, Jews don't respond to rational arguments, they're for the powerless, Jews take the power position from the outset. I've wasted my time -- at greater personal cost than you can imagine -- engaging in what I honestly thought was "Christian" or "golden rule"-based collegiality. Nothing bore fruit.

    . . . relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances . . . ?
    Firstly, I don't see that those in my position have ever been in the center of the room; I see my activities as working a way out of the corner.

    Second, One does not make alliances with the enemy. Cloak And Dagger posted a passionate comment here http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whats-wrong-with-liberal-jews/#comment-2170043 including the appropriateness of "hating." Sam Shama took offense. But Shama posted no response to the Abby Martin video where Jewish Americans- now- Israelis giggled as they urged "kill all Arabs," while other Israeli Jews declared Jews had the right to hate Arabs, and that Gaza should be carpet bombed.

    I struggle not to react with hate when my blood boils at the outrageous inhumanity Jews in Israel and Jews in US, including Jews in positions of power and influence, mete out against Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, and Germans. I was raised not to hate. But I do hate what Jews have done and are doing to my own Italian culture, in Italy as also in USA and elsewhere, and to the American form of Constitutional Republicanism.

    In a talk at London Forum in 2016 E Michael Jones told the audience, "the gospels of my religion tell to Love my Enemies. It's hard, I know. But I love Jews! It's what my religion tells me to do!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc

    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Earlier, Jones said that "Catholics internalize the demands of their oppressors."
    So do most of us; it is extremely uncomfortable to stand toe-to-toe with someone who can harm you or, worst of all, harm your children, and say, What you are doing is wrong and criminal; you are my enemy."

    Far from our "special relation," or our "perpetual ally," Israel is inimical to most of what USA stands for.
    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated, not least to US Congress: When you, Mr. Congressman, give money to Israel to use to kill Palestinians, you are complicit in murder. The person/entity that elicits that collaboration is not your friend, does not represent your values nor the founding principles of your government, they are your enemy. For you to support them is to support an enemy to the American people.

    If a teen-aged, unarmed, impoverished Palestinian girl could stand up to her enemy, why can't we?
    Why can't the US Congress?

    There’s a world of difference between saying we shouldn’t give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
     
    Two more points:
    First, re: "we shouldn't give Israel so much support." How much support should one give to an enemy? In your estimation, how far into your house should you invite a thief, or a murderer?

    Second, re: asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
    They did (as to WWII), and there wasn't -- not as to Jews. There was a holocaust of Germans, and Japanese.

    Take a look at Patrick Cockburn's current article to see why it is still important to drive that point home, relentlessly, objectively, passionately and with no quarter given. It’s Time We Saw Sanctions for What They Really Are – War Crimes, with special attention to comment #2.

    That’s one fantastic post, Solon! Thanks.

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    Watched the E Michael Jones video posted by S2C in his comment #486. What a waste of one hour. Both Carter and Evil Kissinger are portrayed as angels. It was Evil Carter, who brought the Taliban in power and destroyed the secular Afghanistan, which had mixed gender higher education institutions prior to 1950. Evil Carter brought Taliban for three reasons:
     
    Didn't re-review the video, but to the best of my recollection, Jones did cover a lot of ground and knock a few, if not each and every, icon off his undeserved pedestal.

    I agree, Kissinger is evil incarnate, not least for arranging the rescue of Israel in 1973. I believe I heard that Iranians protested in the streets when Iran did not join the oil boycott.

    As for Carter -- we have him to thank for the United States Holocaust Museum and freak-show/trojan horse at USA's front door -- Carter gave the land and the green-light to Golda Meier (rhymes with freier) in exchange for Israeli participation in peace initiatives. Israel, of course, welched on the peace bargains, but got the museum.

    Eager to hear more about Carter and the Afghanis. I'm aware only of Zbigniew Brzezinski's machinations re Mujahaddin and also setting off Iran-Iraq war. About a decade ago on a flight to Iran I sat next to an Iranian woman who was returning from Germany where she had visited her brother in a German hospital. She had X-rays of his lungs -- he had been among those 50,000 or so Iranians permanently injured in gas attacks in which USA was complicit. "He will never leave the hospital," my seat mate made me understand.

    One final thought -- on that visit to Iran we met a number of Afghani refugees in towns outside Mashad, near Harat. Iran has been home to well over 2 million refugees from the Iraq wars as well as Afghanistan. One Afghani we talked with was angry: he had been in Iran for most of his live, had been able to complete high school, but could not get into college in Iran. He could not return to his home country. Iranian friends told us there was a 'cottage industry' of Afghanis attempting to get American visitors to Iran to befriend them and help them get to USA.

    About a decade ago on a flight to Iran I sat next to an Iranian woman who was returning from Germany where she had visited her brother in a German hospital. She had X-rays of his lungs — he had been among those 50,000 or so Iranians permanently injured in gas attacks in which USA was complicit. “He will never leave the hospital,” my seat mate made me understand.

    Greetings S2C,

    Even though the Shia Mullahs are called crazies by the MSN, Khomeini never allowed his troops to gas the other side. Where as the Sunni Saddam didn’t have qualms not only to gas the Iranian troops, he didn’t care for the civilians too. He gassed them all.

    This is the ethical and the spiritual difference between a Shia and a Sunni.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @Sam Shama
    [Hate them, my fellow humans, with all the ferocity that you can muster, and then, hurl your bodies into the machinery thus stopping it. The fiend, as Rurik terms it, cannot be halted in any other way.]

    I sense you are in pain. The source of it remains shrouded in mystery. I know what you think causes the condition, but imho, you, as others here, are solely responsible for creating a parable replete with the requisite monsters in order to feed the need for masochism.

    As I travel these United States, I speak to people in the heartland, of matters which trouble and concern them. Never have I encountered anything vaguely resembling that which you incessantly recount here. Mostly, the concerns are of healthcare costs, college costs and lamentations about the loss of a way of life that used to prevail in the days past. Overwhelmingly, these people are a hearty lot, pleasant and deeply patriotic. They know what is good and what isn't for America. Nazism would find any purchase with them.

    You might find kindred souls amongst a narrow class of urban professionals of a certain age, now frustrated on account of difficulties for a variety of reasons, including international competition, but, these would be people whose Sturm und Drang, displayed e.g. on the UR, rapidly vanishes when faced with the possibility of exposure. These, my friend, are not your pools to prospect revolutionaries from.

    Anyway, hope to follow your progress with keen interest as you proceed to fling yourself into the 'machinery', wherever that happens to be.....

    As I travel these United States, I speak to people in the heartland, of matters which trouble and concern them. ”

    Ask them what they read,what they watch,what websites they go, what books they read in life .

    Overwhelmingly, these people are a hearty lot, pleasant and deeply patriotic. They know what is good and what isn’t for America. .” Same is true for Somalia or Yemen , Saudi Arab Kenya . Like them ,the American can’t do much to change the gov.

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  • @Rurik

    In his farewell speech Eisenhower warned against the military-industrial complex, not something one would expect of a jew.
     
    true, and he ordered Israel out of the Sinai

    but what he did to Germany (after the war was over!), sticks in my craw

    Not to mention leaving POWs behind in Korea and other suspected atrocities. Those however, don't make him Jewish per se. But the fact he was put in charge of the allied forces, (with so little qualifications) is perhaps most damning.

    In his farewell speech Eisenhower warned against the military-industrial complex, not something one would expect of a jew.

    true, and he ordered Israel out of the Sinai

    What ever else he was, he was a product of Baruch, and therefore a tool of the Zionists if not Communists. In my mind a typical dumbass West Point goof wannabe-somebody.

    As for Sinai, Reed makes the case that Eisenhower not only kicked the Israelis out of it, but also their buddies, the French and English. This was done, I believe, to humiliate Britain’s Anthony Eden whom Eisenhower’s Ziomasters (primarily the “adviser” to 6 presidents, Baruch) wanted to destroy, (if I got it straight.)

    The point is that he didn’t do it to do the right thing or to help the Egyptians, he did it because he was told to and he was told to because it would ultimately help the Zionist cause. Reed doesn’t say it, but I suspect another reason it was done is to keep the Brits out of Israel once and for all, a long time goal of the Ziothugs.

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  • @Hubbard
    BTW, what is the literal meaning of Quran?

    Are you supposed to recite Quran and don't understand it like a Wahhabi?

    Or, you supposed to read the Quran and understand it like an intelligent person?

    This is my last post to you as this has nothing to do with the thread's topic!

    Think Peace - Paul!

    Or, you supposed to read the Quran and understand it like an intelligent person?

    This is the essence of Qur’an. It must be read or recited, understood, and acted upon (not literally). Wahhabis (Saudis) are only interested in their power. They are using Islam to keep it.

    Personally, I find this whole thread useless. I feel Dr. Giraldi wasted his energy on a useless article. I know he can do better. Jew is a Jew, whether liberal, conservative, neocon, or Zionist. I have not commented on any of the posts for that reason. I just happened to see your post and felt that it should be answered. I have no problem ending this discussion here.

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    discussion with Anon-Og .I posted on it. No reply.
     
    Hello Old Jew!

    Yes, I'm sorry I didn't reply to your post at the time. And then I sort of let the discussion waift away after it dropped off the page.

    Also, as I contemplated OG's eloquent questions about a disastrous lack of spirituality in the West, and it's terrible consequences, having tossed out their religion with nothing to replace it but crass materialism and individuality, consumerism and ((pop culture)), I was at a loss for how to bolster an argument in favor of all that.

    I don't want to belabor it here, since as you mention, it's off topic, but I have been down that road before, in other conversations with devout Christians who eventually say, 'well then, if not Christianity, then what?'

    And I find myself at a loss. Humans are spiritual beings. We crave, we need a belief system that transcends Mammon/the dirt/born-live-die. We need to believe in things bigger, more sacred than ourselves, and I just don't have any answers for that. For people like myself, of the scientific bent, we're satisfied with the ineffable nuances of our improbability, of the unlikeliness of it all, and the wonderfulness of all that. But we're a tiny few, Old Jew, and most people find such answers to the eternal questions lacking of...

    I remember having a discussion with a fascinating woman some time ago, and she pointed out that we're on a collision course with ourselves and runaway technology. Without a spirituality, Dutch children (for instance) are finding life meaningless, and then for a solution to that, they've legalized euthanasia. I don't remember exactly how she put it, but something like 'first we kill their little souls, and then once their spiritually devoid, we let them walk into the suicide machine and snuff it'. It was poignant, only I can't say it like she did.

    And of course, she's right. And OG is right. I wish I had the answers to these questions, but I don't.

    I will however contemplate it all more, and see what we can come up with.

    Shalom

    Wow Rurik, that’s well encapsulated (and thanks OJ for being persistent). The dilemma you elucidate, is a tough nut to crack and we’re not the first to come across it. GK Chesterton was grappling with it 100 years ago, and surely, the open discussions probably date back to the Enlightenment.

    Though I don’t have an answer to your dilemma either, I found Chesterton’s Orthodoxy, on this subject to be a fountain of brilliance which seems to keep on giving each time I go over it again.

    I read it a number of times and listened to it even more often.

    https://librivox.org/orthodoxy-by-gk-chesterton/

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    thanks Chris,

    Intriguing stuff there. Will definitely have a look see

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  • @anon
    "The collapse of the Roman Empire ushered in the rise of Ashkenazi Jewry. For the next 500 years Jews had a virtual monopoly on banking and credit. It allowed the formation of a Jewish elite of large scale bankers.
    These Jewish merchants exported furs, swords, and lumber from the great forests of Europe. And slaves. Jews were very much involved in white slave traffic in the early Middle Ages


    These great capitalists of the early medieval world were protected by Christian nobility who protected them against Bishops and meshugena monks.
    A Rabbinic-Capitalist Elite
    The Jewish community came to be dominated—until the late 19th Century—by a narrow band of capitalist families who intermarried with great rabbinical families. Together these families formed an aristocracy. There was a small degree of upward mobility.

    This capitalist-rabbinic dynasty was accompanied by the rise of Jewish law (halakha). Halakha spread westward from the great schools of Iraq towards Western Europe, but the strict observance of the law took hold very slowly in Western Europe. By 1000 CE, however, Talmudic schools had been established in the West and the law became the dominant way of life, imposed on the Jewish masses by this narrow capitalist-rabbinic elite.

    After the middle of the 11th century three changes brought an end to the good fortune of the Jews of the early middle ages: the monopoly on banking and credit ended, there was a great revival of Christian spirituality, and there was a revival of Roman law.

    The emergence of Christian merchants, bankers, and creditors provided intense competition to the Jewish capitalist hegemony. The field of competition was tilted when bishops and princes placed restrictions on Jewish trade.

    It was a disaster for Jews.

    There was a great upsurge of Christian spirituality starting in the mid-eleventh century. This reached far beyond liturgy and worship: it enriched the arts, literature, and music--the sublime. But it also revived and generated a great Jew-phobia among Christians.


    This presentd a terrible problem for the Jewish community. The European nobility, who had been protective of the Jews, were overcome by mass hysteria against the Jews.

    Jews moved to Poland in the 16th century, carrying their Yiddish, their rabbinical elite, and their law with them. n response to this decline of the Ashkenaz during the high Middle Ages, in the 12 and 13th centuries there was a crisis in intellectual life among the rabbis and among Jewish intellectuals. Western Europe was undergoing a revival of Aristotelian philosophy and science,
    They rejected science and technology and new philosophy , and instead kept only his biblical commentaries. Instead of moving toward science, the rabbis moved towards the kabbala, and "the accentuation of a Hellenistic astrological mystical pastiche." Judaism moved towards an irrationalist, mystical culture



    http://rolandnikles.blogspot.com/2017/12/medieval-jewry-in-western-europe.html
    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/01/israel-perversion-judaism/

    Israel is the entity that serves the current interest of the priest-capitalist axis forged in the aftermath of Roman dissolution in 500 CE. Liberalism is hoax as far Judaism is concerned . While other religion can carve up nation states and keep religion separate from State, Israel can't . Israel is the coalescing of the far flung spread out family connections of middle ages

    1 And slaves. Jews were very much involved in white slave traffic in the early Middle Ages” can’t happen without wholehearted participation of the whites form both end of the transactions.

    Slavery has been a blot but nothing comes close to transatlantic slave trade .

    2 They rejected science and technology and new philosophy ,

    It is very much in line with human coping and strategies though destructive , to safeguard the last remnant of the survival kits . Myth allegories , traditions, beliefs and rituals don’t able sense until we face annihilation . Then those very illogical faiths hold the societies together,nation together . Applies mostly to smaller nation or collection of people where space for accommodation to various differences are limited.

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  • @Rurik
    Hey Chuck,

    President Putin is preparing to sell his comrades “down the river.”

    Not so here in ZUS homeland!
     
    yes, but please consider..

    what are the chances that Putin would have been installed if Rothschild imagined for one fraction of a second that he'd turn out to be a Russian nationalist?

    Putin caught them off guard once he set up a praetorian guard in the Kremlin.

    Hope springs eternal..

    I consider your less than enthusiastic opinion of Trump perfectly reasonable and rational, knowing all we know. I just have to cling to some shred of ephemeral, ethereal hope, because the alternative seems a bit too bleak for me.

    And when the day comes.. if Trump bombs Iran, or crosses some other Rubicon, then I'll ruefully join you in your realism, but until then, I'm watching to see where this goes..

    https://www.rt.com/news/416498-turkey-bombs-kurds-afrin-fsa/

    (first brought to my attention by someone here on Unz)

    I'm hoping that the current debacle vis-a-vis the 'Russian collusion', FBI collaboration, ends up with Comey's and Hillary's indictment. I'm hoping that it will mushroom and bring the neocons down with her. Sort of like the me too# movement, only with subverting our democracy.

    I'm hoping that Trump too builds a praetorian guard, and surrounds himself with generals and CIA heads and operatives that are loyal to him, vs. the deepstate.

    I know all of that must sound silly to you, but we're one year in and Assad's still there, Turkey is bombing Israel's Kurdish faction, and old alliances are coming apart at the seams.

    Rurik ~ the Pollyanna

    I’m hoping that the current debacle vis-a-vis the ‘Russian collusion’, FBI collaboration, ends up with Comey’s and Hillary’s indictment. I’m hoping that it will mushroom and bring the neocons down with her. Sort of like the me too# movement, only with subverting our democracy.

    I think that Hellary throwing in the towel for Presidency avoided jail sentence. Comey seems a good person and I think as Mr. Girladi has already mentioned that it will be exposed as ISISRaelGate.

    I know all of that must sound silly to you, but we’re one year in and Assad’s still there, Turkey is bombing Israel’s Kurdish faction, and old alliances are coming apart at the seams.

    God bless Trump, he has now pissed off Pakistan too. A genius in my opinion, especially when he recognized Jerusalem as ISISRael’s Capital. Mr. Nasrallah talks about Armageddon, thus Trump is creating more Muslim troops for Nasrallah.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @jacques sheete

    Unfortunately, the people on this thread are not interested in learning about what Islam really is.
     
    I believe that a big reason is that most here (including the hasbara trolls) know that Islam isn't the problem made out to be by the mass media, neocons and Zionists.

    The ones who think it's a problem and the trolls who want it to be portrayed as such are not worth trying to convince.

    I believe that our main efforts need to be focused on the perpetra(i)tors of our problems and that discussing Islam itself represents a distraction. The discussion ought to focus on the perfidy of the Zionistas and Izzy-firsters. Their never ending string of lies, trickery, deception, and other outrages against humanity need to be fought head on.

    believe that our main efforts need to be focused on the perpetra(i)tors of our problems and that discussing Islam itself represents a distraction. The discussion ought to focus on the perfidy of the Zionistas and Izzy-firsters. Their never ending string of lies, trickery, deception, and other outrages against humanity need to be fought head on.

    I could not agree with you more. However, when one of these trolls attacks Islam, it needs to be answered, because there are people on this thread that will believe this misinformation.

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  • BTW, what is the literal meaning of Quran?

    Are you supposed to recite Quran and don’t understand it like a Wahhabi?

    Or, you supposed to read the Quran and understand it like an intelligent person?

    This is my last post to you as this has nothing to do with the thread’s topic!

    Think Peace – Paul!

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    Or, you supposed to read the Quran and understand it like an intelligent person?
     
    This is the essence of Qur'an. It must be read or recited, understood, and acted upon (not literally). Wahhabis (Saudis) are only interested in their power. They are using Islam to keep it.

    Personally, I find this whole thread useless. I feel Dr. Giraldi wasted his energy on a useless article. I know he can do better. Jew is a Jew, whether liberal, conservative, neocon, or Zionist. I have not commented on any of the posts for that reason. I just happened to see your post and felt that it should be answered. I have no problem ending this discussion here.
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  • @Rurik
    Thanks Jaques,

    I have started it and it's looks fascinating..

    Best I’ve read so far. Ties it all together.

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  • @RobinG
    Too bad there was that much on Stephen Cooper. What difference does it make who he is? Who are you, anyway? It was apparent 2 years ago that you didn't realize I was gently mocking when I asked if you wanted jumbo-trons on the Mall. No, I never thought a "big march" was a good idea. That's because I knew you didn't have a prayer. If you'd tried, I would have supported you (on the keyboard), that's all.

    Phil's key point, which you ignore, is his change of strategy.

    I used to believe that educating the American public about what is really going on in the Middle East would bring about a change in policy. I don’t believe it any longer because Jews control the media and the message.
    ..... as soon as Jewish American liberals get on board and convince themselves that they cannot stand any more of the lying about Israel change will come. It is all about Jewish power in America, but this time as a potential positive force.
     
    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances. Your poll questions are irrelevant. There's a world of difference between saying we shouldn't give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn't a holocaust.

    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances.

    In fact, RobinG, and as you may know or should well know, S2 (I speak only for my avatar) has engaged in alliance – building– in the early 1990s I created a group to introduce more representative religious programming on TV in my community. The leadership team I recruited included Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Unitarians, United Methodists, Mormons– I shared a podium with Jack Anderson at a 3-day Harvest Fest at Mormon Temple. When J-Street was an embryo I and the Pax Christi group I was part of participated in J-Street training at Jewish community centers and synagogues; we went together to JCC when Jews trotted out Izzeldin Abuelaish in a dog-and-pony show to demonstrate how virtuous Jews were; Pax Christi organized a potluck dinner to be held at my home to which representatives of five different Christian and Jewish churches/synagogues were invited — the Christian groups all were enthusiastic, no Jewish group accepted the invitation.

    I’ve hosted Iranian authors and arranged ‘religious-cultural exchange’ between Roman Catholics and Muslims at which scholars from prestigious universities discussed the congruences in literature and poetry from their separate traditions.

    As you know, I’ve done street-protest (a waste of time except for having met some interesting people), participated in memorials to victims.

    As somebody elsewhere on this thread (iirc) said, Jews don’t respond to rational arguments, they’re for the powerless, Jews take the power position from the outset. I’ve wasted my time — at greater personal cost than you can imagine — engaging in what I honestly thought was “Christian” or “golden rule”-based collegiality. Nothing bore fruit.

    . . . relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances . . . ?
    Firstly, I don’t see that those in my position have ever been in the center of the room; I see my activities as working a way out of the corner.

    Second, One does not make alliances with the enemy. Cloak And Dagger posted a passionate comment here http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whats-wrong-with-liberal-jews/#comment-2170043 including the appropriateness of “hating.” Sam Shama took offense. But Shama posted no response to the Abby Martin video where Jewish Americans- now- Israelis giggled as they urged “kill all Arabs,” while other Israeli Jews declared Jews had the right to hate Arabs, and that Gaza should be carpet bombed.

    I struggle not to react with hate when my blood boils at the outrageous inhumanity Jews in Israel and Jews in US, including Jews in positions of power and influence, mete out against Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, and Germans. I was raised not to hate. But I do hate what Jews have done and are doing to my own Italian culture, in Italy as also in USA and elsewhere, and to the American form of Constitutional Republicanism.

    In a talk at London Forum in 2016 E Michael Jones told the audience, “the gospels of my religion tell to Love my Enemies. It’s hard, I know. But I love Jews! It’s what my religion tells me to do!”

    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Earlier, Jones said that “Catholics internalize the demands of their oppressors.”
    So do most of us; it is extremely uncomfortable to stand toe-to-toe with someone who can harm you or, worst of all, harm your children, and say, What you are doing is wrong and criminal; you are my enemy.”

    Far from our “special relation,” or our “perpetual ally,” Israel is inimical to most of what USA stands for.
    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated, not least to US Congress: When you, Mr. Congressman, give money to Israel to use to kill Palestinians, you are complicit in murder. The person/entity that elicits that collaboration is not your friend, does not represent your values nor the founding principles of your government, they are your enemy. For you to support them is to support an enemy to the American people.

    If a teen-aged, unarmed, impoverished Palestinian girl could stand up to her enemy, why can’t we?
    Why can’t the US Congress?

    There’s a world of difference between saying we shouldn’t give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.

    Two more points:
    First, re: “we shouldn’t give Israel so much support.” How much support should one give to an enemy? In your estimation, how far into your house should you invite a thief, or a murderer?

    Second, re: asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
    They did (as to WWII), and there wasn’t — not as to Jews. There was a holocaust of Germans, and Japanese.

    Take a look at Patrick Cockburn’s current article to see why it is still important to drive that point home, relentlessly, objectively, passionately and with no quarter given. It’s Time We Saw Sanctions for What They Really Are – War Crimes, with special attention to comment #2.

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    That’s one fantastic post, Solon! Thanks.
    , @jacques sheete

    I’ve wasted my time — at greater personal cost than you can imagine — engaging in what I honestly thought was “Christian” or “golden rule”-based collegiality. Nothing bore fruit.
     
    That is so true.

    They don't respond to healthy human interaction. Their default position seems to be that you're a sucker if you give'em an inch. If you do that, they'll get as much as they can out of you then laugh and sneer about it.

    They call us dumb goyim "animals" but they're the ones who only respond well to being handled that way. Arrogant, cocky, sneering, domineering jokers. Handle them as anything else at your own peril!
    , @Hubbard
    Hello S2C,

    You are a true disciple of Prince of Peace (as). As it is said, "God plans and satan plans, and God is the best of the planner"!

    Keep your chin up and as well keep up the good work.

    Think Peace - Paul!
    , @iffen
    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Well, why didn't you just say so at the beginning?

    What's all they coy hemming and hawing about?

    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated

    Wait a minute. You are making me dizzy. How many thresholds does your house have? What sort of world do you live in?

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  • @MEexpert

    Islam was hijacked on the onset. The first 4 verses to Prophet of Islam were about, “Read and Write”.
     
    You are right about Islam being hijacked but it was not about reading or writing. Islam has emphasized education at every step. There are several sayings of the Prophet about acquiring education. He called himself the "City of Knowledge." He was there to guide them and help them learn. Another one says to go as far as China (implying distance here, not literally to China) to acquire knowledge. In the beginning of the second chapter Allah says

    "This is the book for which there is no doubt. A guidance for those conscious of Allah."( Qur'an, 2:1)
     
    A book was not sent down just to look at. Reading is implied. A book has to be read and the prophet came to teach and explain what was revealed.

    Of course, the Quran is not in serial order of revelation, not only by chapters, but verses within the chapters too. Go figure!
     
    This arrangement was directed by the Prophet and for a reason. This is neither the place nor there is enough space to go into the details of why. But there are books that explain this arrangement.

    The true translation is “Read and Write” and not “Recite and Write”. Most Muzzies don’t know Arabic and rely on skewed translations.
     
    You are wrong here. You are also assuming too many things here and making a broad statements. You have no way of knowing who has read Qur'an and who hasn't. You are also implying that you know Arabic. The correct translation is "to recite." The prophet was not handed a book and asked to read it. He was given some verses and asked to recite.

    Those who know Arabic, have not read the full Quran.
     
    One can only laugh at a statement like that. No intelligent person will say something like it.

    The correct translation is “to recite.”

    Wrong! I am not going to argue with you. Here is Google Translation for:

    Read: https://translate.google.com/#en/ar/Read

    Recite: https://translate.google.com/#en/ar/Recite

    The word in the Quran is Akra which means Read.

    One can only laugh at a statement like that. No intelligent person will say something like it.

    Wrong! How many people who know English have read the full Bible? Even how many Christians with English being their first language have read the full Bible?

    Unfortunately, the people on this thread are not interested in learning about what Islam really is.

    You really don’t get it, do you? I didn’t say that, what I said, read it below again:

    Hubbard said: Your gripe is about Shia killings, which is natural. But, you should make your struggle (jihad) to expose lies about Islam. Lies against Islam by Muslims themselves.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @Old Jew
    Off Topic:

    Rurik,

    I liked your defense of science in your discussion with Anon-Og .I posted on it. No reply.

    I understood that your boss (girlfriend) dragged you away from the computer.

    I then wondered, where was Rurik away for eight days (from the 12 to the 20th of January).

    sf

    discussion with Anon-Og .I posted on it. No reply.

    Hello Old Jew!

    Yes, I’m sorry I didn’t reply to your post at the time. And then I sort of let the discussion waift away after it dropped off the page.

    Also, as I contemplated OG’s eloquent questions about a disastrous lack of spirituality in the West, and it’s terrible consequences, having tossed out their religion with nothing to replace it but crass materialism and individuality, consumerism and ((pop culture)), I was at a loss for how to bolster an argument in favor of all that.

    I don’t want to belabor it here, since as you mention, it’s off topic, but I have been down that road before, in other conversations with devout Christians who eventually say, ‘well then, if not Christianity, then what?’

    And I find myself at a loss. Humans are spiritual beings. We crave, we need a belief system that transcends Mammon/the dirt/born-live-die. We need to believe in things bigger, more sacred than ourselves, and I just don’t have any answers for that. For people like myself, of the scientific bent, we’re satisfied with the ineffable nuances of our improbability, of the unlikeliness of it all, and the wonderfulness of all that. But we’re a tiny few, Old Jew, and most people find such answers to the eternal questions lacking of…

    I remember having a discussion with a fascinating woman some time ago, and she pointed out that we’re on a collision course with ourselves and runaway technology. Without a spirituality, Dutch children (for instance) are finding life meaningless, and then for a solution to that, they’ve legalized euthanasia. I don’t remember exactly how she put it, but something like ‘first we kill their little souls, and then once their spiritually devoid, we let them walk into the suicide machine and snuff it’. It was poignant, only I can’t say it like she did.

    And of course, she’s right. And OG is right. I wish I had the answers to these questions, but I don’t.

    I will however contemplate it all more, and see what we can come up with.

    Shalom

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    Wow Rurik, that’s well encapsulated (and thanks OJ for being persistent). The dilemma you elucidate, is a tough nut to crack and we’re not the first to come across it. GK Chesterton was grappling with it 100 years ago, and surely, the open discussions probably date back to the Enlightenment.

    Though I don’t have an answer to your dilemma either, I found Chesterton’s Orthodoxy, on this subject to be a fountain of brilliance which seems to keep on giving each time I go over it again.

    I read it a number of times and listened to it even more often.
    https://librivox.org/orthodoxy-by-gk-chesterton/

    , @Talha
    Hey Rurik,

    we’re on a collision course with ourselves and runaway technology.
     
    I cannot stress enough how Neil Postman’s book should be required reading for everyone in our age. It is fairly short and full of amazing insights on this subject:
    https://www.amazon.com/Technopoly-Surrender-Technology-Neil-Postman/dp/0679745408

    Peace.
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  • @Hubbard


    SolontoCroesus (Comment 486) "Stirred, not shaken"
     
    To some degree, I posit that within the scope of (present) dumb goyim ltd. memory is the G.W. Bush administration’s Fall 2001 unnecessary & immoral attack upon Afghanistan.

    During an opportune “frenzy” which included a need for anthrax attacks upon even Jewish Lobby-friendly Congress, the Neoconservatives lunged at going to war because of the Taliban’s hesitation to handover OBL to the same justice system that avoided a forensic investigation of the 9/11 attacks. W.T.F.?
     

    Watched the E Michael Jones video posted by S2C in his comment #486. What a waste of one hour. Both Carter and Evil Kissinger are portrayed as angels. It was Evil Carter, who brought the Taliban in power and destroyed the secular Afghanistan, which had mixed gender higher education institutions prior to 1950. Evil Carter brought Taliban for three reasons:

    1. To bleed USSR
    2. To overthrow the Shah, see my comment 526. Carter tried to put 2 stooges for replacement of Shah, but it didn't work. Thus, Taliban an insurance policy against the then powerful Iran.
    3. To destroy secular Muslims countries along with their mixed gender higher education institutions.

    Clinton did the same with Sudan, being a secular country with mixed gender higher education institutions. It all started prior to 9/11.

    Taliban means, a student who strives for knowledge, but this knowledge is limited to Wahhabism, and for men only. Mui Macho!

    After 9/11 things are being put to right. Who is the real enemy finally recognized and realized.

    Think Peace - Paul!

    Watched the E Michael Jones video posted by S2C in his comment #486. What a waste of one hour. Both Carter and Evil Kissinger are portrayed as angels. It was Evil Carter, who brought the Taliban in power and destroyed the secular Afghanistan, which had mixed gender higher education institutions prior to 1950. Evil Carter brought Taliban for three reasons:

    Didn’t re-review the video, but to the best of my recollection, Jones did cover a lot of ground and knock a few, if not each and every, icon off his undeserved pedestal.

    I agree, Kissinger is evil incarnate, not least for arranging the rescue of Israel in 1973. I believe I heard that Iranians protested in the streets when Iran did not join the oil boycott.

    As for Carter — we have him to thank for the United States Holocaust Museum and freak-show/trojan horse at USA’s front door — Carter gave the land and the green-light to Golda Meier (rhymes with freier) in exchange for Israeli participation in peace initiatives. Israel, of course, welched on the peace bargains, but got the museum.

    Eager to hear more about Carter and the Afghanis. I’m aware only of Zbigniew Brzezinski’s machinations re Mujahaddin and also setting off Iran-Iraq war. About a decade ago on a flight to Iran I sat next to an Iranian woman who was returning from Germany where she had visited her brother in a German hospital. She had X-rays of his lungs — he had been among those 50,000 or so Iranians permanently injured in gas attacks in which USA was complicit. “He will never leave the hospital,” my seat mate made me understand.

    One final thought — on that visit to Iran we met a number of Afghani refugees in towns outside Mashad, near Harat. Iran has been home to well over 2 million refugees from the Iraq wars as well as Afghanistan. One Afghani we talked with was angry: he had been in Iran for most of his live, had been able to complete high school, but could not get into college in Iran. He could not return to his home country. Iranian friends told us there was a ‘cottage industry’ of Afghanis attempting to get American visitors to Iran to befriend them and help them get to USA.

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    About a decade ago on a flight to Iran I sat next to an Iranian woman who was returning from Germany where she had visited her brother in a German hospital. She had X-rays of his lungs — he had been among those 50,000 or so Iranians permanently injured in gas attacks in which USA was complicit. “He will never leave the hospital,” my seat mate made me understand.
     
    Greetings S2C,

    Even though the Shia Mullahs are called crazies by the MSN, Khomeini never allowed his troops to gas the other side. Where as the Sunni Saddam didn't have qualms not only to gas the Iranian troops, he didn't care for the civilians too. He gassed them all.

    This is the ethical and the spiritual difference between a Shia and a Sunni.

    Think Peace - Paul!
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Rurik wrote: "330 million souls are being betrayed and sold down the river by a handful of bankers, politicians, media barons, and corrupt acronyms of Satan: CIA, CFR, PNAC, DEA, AIPAC, FBI, ADL and so on.."

    Hi Rurik,

    When the USSR fell, and likely after huge bribes were paid to hard core Soviet military leaders, the same lot as you referenced above installed the malleable Boris Yeltsin government; in other words, a government in-place that the American-Israeli Empire MAFIA could "do business with."

    Remarkably, Vladimir Putin came to power and some scum-sucking Russian oligarchs exited, stage left.

    I do not know Russia's present population, Rurik, but at present it does not appear Russian Orthodox-President Putin is preparing to sell his comrades "down the river."

    Not so here in ZUS homeland!

    Bottom line, for me: There's a satanic plan underway for USA collapse similar to that of the USSR.

    The crime of 9/11 was huge and the BIGGER the crime, the more obvious (as a rule) is the MOTIVE. We wanted to "trust" and got fucked by our own.

    So pitiful to know how even Thomas L. Friedman's upfront words about Iraq being "the war Neoconservatives marketed" floated to shore on Ellis Island?

    Thanks.

    Hey Chuck,

    President Putin is preparing to sell his comrades “down the river.”

    Not so here in ZUS homeland!

    yes, but please consider..

    what are the chances that Putin would have been installed if Rothschild imagined for one fraction of a second that he’d turn out to be a Russian nationalist?

    Putin caught them off guard once he set up a praetorian guard in the Kremlin.

    Hope springs eternal..

    I consider your less than enthusiastic opinion of Trump perfectly reasonable and rational, knowing all we know. I just have to cling to some shred of ephemeral, ethereal hope, because the alternative seems a bit too bleak for me.

    And when the day comes.. if Trump bombs Iran, or crosses some other Rubicon, then I’ll ruefully join you in your realism, but until then, I’m watching to see where this goes..

    https://www.rt.com/news/416498-turkey-bombs-kurds-afrin-fsa/

    (first brought to my attention by someone here on Unz)

    I’m hoping that the current debacle vis-a-vis the ‘Russian collusion’, FBI collaboration, ends up with Comey’s and Hillary’s indictment. I’m hoping that it will mushroom and bring the neocons down with her. Sort of like the me too# movement, only with subverting our democracy.

    I’m hoping that Trump too builds a praetorian guard, and surrounds himself with generals and CIA heads and operatives that are loyal to him, vs. the deepstate.

    I know all of that must sound silly to you, but we’re one year in and Assad’s still there, Turkey is bombing Israel’s Kurdish faction, and old alliances are coming apart at the seams.

    Rurik ~ the Pollyanna

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    I’m hoping that the current debacle vis-a-vis the ‘Russian collusion’, FBI collaboration, ends up with Comey’s and Hillary’s indictment. I’m hoping that it will mushroom and bring the neocons down with her. Sort of like the me too# movement, only with subverting our democracy.
     
    I think that Hellary throwing in the towel for Presidency avoided jail sentence. Comey seems a good person and I think as Mr. Girladi has already mentioned that it will be exposed as ISISRaelGate.

    I know all of that must sound silly to you, but we’re one year in and Assad’s still there, Turkey is bombing Israel’s Kurdish faction, and old alliances are coming apart at the seams.
     
    God bless Trump, he has now pissed off Pakistan too. A genius in my opinion, especially when he recognized Jerusalem as ISISRael's Capital. Mr. Nasrallah talks about Armageddon, thus Trump is creating more Muslim troops for Nasrallah.

    Think Peace - Paul!
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Rurik said to me: "I know all of that must sound silly to you, but we’re one year in and Assad’s still there, Turkey is bombing Israel’s Kurdish faction, and old alliances are coming apart at the seams."

    Hi Rurik,

    Re; above, nothing sounds "silly" to because of all the Zio Deception and I believe global Jewish Zionists maintain a modicum of control as it appears "old alliances" are coming "apart at the seams."

    I hate to draw you away from Phil Giraldi's important article, but please consider a look at the comment-action developing on the Saker's latest which focused on the strange fact that Russia does not retaliate against Israel when their crews bomb southern-based (Assad aligned) Syrian operations.

    You will take special interest when you read Andrei Matyanov's comment which referenced the UNIQUE but somewhat obscured work of Israel Shamir.

    Thanks, Rurik & all the best to you and others here!
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  • @jacques sheete

    ...because as George H Bush once ruminated.. “if the American people ever find out what we have done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.’
     
    I always suspected that we Americans had been screwed, but I never knew how bad it was until I read Douglas Reed's book, written over a half century ago that lays it all wide open, "The Controversy of Zion."

    He was a ww1 combat vet and was injured, became a well known journalist but got blackballed for writing his version of the truth, which makes a lot more sense than the standard versions of US history.

    Available online here:
    https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt

    Thanks Jaques,

    I have started it and it’s looks fascinating..

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    Best I've read so far. Ties it all together.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    I knew about the West Point assertion that Eisenhower was a jew.
    However, not much that supports this.
    Hatred of Germans was quite common, see for example
    Colonel Roderick Macleod, D.S.O., M.C., and Dennis Kelly, 'TIME UNGUARDED The Ironside Diaries 1937- 1940', New York, 1963
    MacLeod, I suppose was a Scot, a region where jews I suppose were as scarce as in pre WWII Sweden.
    In his farewell speech Eisenhower warned against the military-industrial complex, not something one would expect of a jew.

    In his farewell speech Eisenhower warned against the military-industrial complex, not something one would expect of a jew.

    true, and he ordered Israel out of the Sinai

    but what he did to Germany (after the war was over!), sticks in my craw

    Not to mention leaving POWs behind in Korea and other suspected atrocities. Those however, don’t make him Jewish per se. But the fact he was put in charge of the allied forces, (with so little qualifications) is perhaps most damning.

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    In his farewell speech Eisenhower warned against the military-industrial complex, not something one would expect of a jew.
     
    true, and he ordered Israel out of the Sinai
     
    What ever else he was, he was a product of Baruch, and therefore a tool of the Zionists if not Communists. In my mind a typical dumbass West Point goof wannabe-somebody.

    As for Sinai, Reed makes the case that Eisenhower not only kicked the Israelis out of it, but also their buddies, the French and English. This was done, I believe, to humiliate Britain’s Anthony Eden whom Eisenhower’s Ziomasters (primarily the “adviser” to 6 presidents, Baruch) wanted to destroy, (if I got it straight.)

    The point is that he didn't do it to do the right thing or to help the Egyptians, he did it because he was told to and he was told to because it would ultimately help the Zionist cause. Reed doesn't say it, but I suspect another reason it was done is to keep the Brits out of Israel once and for all, a long time goal of the Ziothugs.

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  • @MEexpert

    Your gripe is about Shia killings, which is natural. But, you should make your struggle (jihad) to expose lies about Islam. Lies against Islam by Muslims themselves.
     
    That is what I have been trying to do but I have to do it in bits and pieces. Unfortunately, the people on this thread are not interested in learning about what Islam really is. Terrorism is more interesting to them. I have said many times that there is no such thing as "radical Islam." There are only "radical Muslims." These are two different things. I would love to teach people about the real Islam if I am given the opportunity. The neocons are afraid that if people found out about real Islam, the truth will be revealed and the people will turn against them. The Wahhabis have the same problem. They don't want the real Islam revealed either.

    Unfortunately, the people on this thread are not interested in learning about what Islam really is.

    I believe that a big reason is that most here (including the hasbara trolls) know that Islam isn’t the problem made out to be by the mass media, neocons and Zionists.

    The ones who think it’s a problem and the trolls who want it to be portrayed as such are not worth trying to convince.

    I believe that our main efforts need to be focused on the perpetra(i)tors of our problems and that discussing Islam itself represents a distraction. The discussion ought to focus on the perfidy of the Zionistas and Izzy-firsters. Their never ending string of lies, trickery, deception, and other outrages against humanity need to be fought head on.

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    believe that our main efforts need to be focused on the perpetra(i)tors of our problems and that discussing Islam itself represents a distraction. The discussion ought to focus on the perfidy of the Zionistas and Izzy-firsters. Their never ending string of lies, trickery, deception, and other outrages against humanity need to be fought head on.
     
    I could not agree with you more. However, when one of these trolls attacks Islam, it needs to be answered, because there are people on this thread that will believe this misinformation.
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  • Did I get the coveted 666 comment!

    Wow, what luck. Lucky man…

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @Incitatus

    “you’d like to change the subject? I wonder why that is?”
     
    Simple. There are larger challenges to our future.

    “People are finally mustering the courage to talk about the pink elephant/800 lb gorilla in the room…”
     
    People here – and only here - talk of little else. The same poor, tired beast in every breath. Flogged week after week. Month after month. Over, over, over and over. PETA alert!

    Meanwhile the building burns down.

    I support ME policy reform. That’s not the largest crop in Dr. Phil’s garden. Readers seem mostly bereft of constructive suggestions. Conspiracies and scapegoats, on the other hand, reign supreme, cherished like pure gold.

    You – first generation Greco-Canadian - want to end diversity, place yourself among the select and create a Euro-Ethno-State. A homogenous, exclusive nation. Details to follow. Crisis immanent, outrage over ‘the Lobby’ (wink-wink) essential. Power follows. An arsonist-would-be-fire chief. Focus solely on the scapegoat. Nothing less will do. No other problem exists.

    Planet Germanians may share your vision. Hard to say, given juvenile passion for crackpot history and Nazi necrophilia. Most reinvent Ludendorff’s Dolchstoßlegende. We are victims of notorious perfidy, must fight the [name your favorite here] culprits. Focus your anger. Forget individual rights or independent thought. We must return to ‘Ein Volk’ - a state of drab uniformity, unquestioning obedience, blessed dictatorship. Ah, the good old race-baiting days. What could be better?

    Naturally, Wilson, FDR, Churchill – controlled by Jews, Jews, and more Jews – started 20C WWs. Details on how they forced Germans to invade (telekinesis?) are scarce, but nobody’s perfect. Scapegoating well past the sell-by-date. Repeated week after week, month after month. Sorry. “Die fahne hoch” gets boring after a few choruses. Just my opinion.

    Take a tip from Anders Behring Breivik. Shares your terror of diversity and ‘Cultural Marxism’. Follows Odin, dislikes feminism, obsessed with Robert Spencer. Sound familiar? Did his best to prevent ‘white genocide’. Admires ‘exclusive’ Israel – it’s all he wants Norway to be. No need for smoke and mirrors. Has “narcissistic personality disorder”, likes video games and the Hitlergruß. Common Planet Germania traits? Murdered to create outrage necessary for his ethno-state. Thanks for not doing that (yet). Leave it to your colleague:

    “Do not go gently into the sinister night. Rage, rage against those who have harmed us. Anger focuses the mind, and hatred motivates action.”
     
    Quit the video games! Light the tiki-torches! Break out flags and hobnail boots!

    Dr. Phil wants his country back (or something to that effect). Agree we should avoid “passionate attachments.” Are they the only danger? Remember health care? A Stanford University Hospital room cost $7.50/day in 1939. Prices have increased an average 10.44%/year. US GDP should be $2,690.0 trillion and average annual income $2,868,341 at the that rate. Guess what? Premiums and deductibles just went up again by double digits. What were you saying about elephants and gorillas?

    “Keep ‘em coming, Phil. You are like fine wine, you get better with age!”
     
    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?

    “P.S. I especially liked your use of the term goyim. Perhaps in future, you might even adopt the use of my trademark phrase, The Dumb Goyim, in one of your articles.”
     
    You should consider a “tax deductible educational foundation’. After all, 501(c)(3) status is good enough for AIPAC, AEI, AE9/11Truth and Dr. Phil. How about DGI – Dumb Goyim Institute? Don’t worry. “Educational foundations” hold no classes, grant no degrees and need only believe in tax avoidance. AE9/11Truth took in $834,619 in tax deductible contributions. Not bad for Dick Gage, otherwise an undistinguished architect. Doubtless his foundation will last a (profitable) lifetime. DGI’s could too, Geo.

    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?

    You forgot Iran ’79.

    Anyhow, things are changing fast. Nasrallah is very relaxed and Iran is at the doorsteps of ISISRael.

    What more one can ask?

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @geokat62

    Too bad about Jerry Chun Shing Lee. Suppose it’s not worth attention.

    Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.
     
    Hey, Incy. People are finally mustering the courage to talk about the pink elephant/800 lb gorilla in the room... and you’d like to change the subject? I wonder why that is?

    “you’d like to change the subject? I wonder why that is?”

    Simple. There are larger challenges to our future.

    “People are finally mustering the courage to talk about the pink elephant/800 lb gorilla in the room…”

    People here – and only here – talk of little else. The same poor, tired beast in every breath. Flogged week after week. Month after month. Over, over, over and over. PETA alert!

    Meanwhile the building burns down.

    I support ME policy reform. That’s not the largest crop in Dr. Phil’s garden. Readers seem mostly bereft of constructive suggestions. Conspiracies and scapegoats, on the other hand, reign supreme, cherished like pure gold.

    You – first generation Greco-Canadian – want to end diversity, place yourself among the select and create a Euro-Ethno-State. A homogenous, exclusive nation. Details to follow. Crisis immanent, outrage over ‘the Lobby’ (wink-wink) essential. Power follows. An arsonist-would-be-fire chief. Focus solely on the scapegoat. Nothing less will do. No other problem exists.

    Planet Germanians may share your vision. Hard to say, given juvenile passion for crackpot history and Nazi necrophilia. Most reinvent Ludendorff’s Dolchstoßlegende. We are victims of notorious perfidy, must fight the [name your favorite here] culprits. Focus your anger. Forget individual rights or independent thought. We must return to ‘Ein Volk’ – a state of drab uniformity, unquestioning obedience, blessed dictatorship. Ah, the good old race-baiting days. What could be better?

    Naturally, Wilson, FDR, Churchill – controlled by Jews, Jews, and more Jews – started 20C WWs. Details on how they forced Germans to invade (telekinesis?) are scarce, but nobody’s perfect. Scapegoating well past the sell-by-date. Repeated week after week, month after month. Sorry. “Die fahne hoch” gets boring after a few choruses. Just my opinion.

    Take a tip from Anders Behring Breivik. Shares your terror of diversity and ‘Cultural Marxism’. Follows Odin, dislikes feminism, obsessed with Robert Spencer. Sound familiar? Did his best to prevent ‘white genocide’. Admires ‘exclusive’ Israel – it’s all he wants Norway to be. No need for smoke and mirrors. Has “narcissistic personality disorder”, likes video games and the Hitlergruß. Common Planet Germania traits? Murdered to create outrage necessary for his ethno-state. Thanks for not doing that (yet). Leave it to your colleague:

    “Do not go gently into the sinister night. Rage, rage against those who have harmed us. Anger focuses the mind, and hatred motivates action.”

    Quit the video games! Light the tiki-torches! Break out flags and hobnail boots!

    Dr. Phil wants his country back (or something to that effect). Agree we should avoid “passionate attachments.” Are they the only danger? Remember health care? A Stanford University Hospital room cost $7.50/day in 1939. Prices have increased an average 10.44%/year. US GDP should be $2,690.0 trillion and average annual income $2,868,341 at the that rate. Guess what? Premiums and deductibles just went up again by double digits. What were you saying about elephants and gorillas?

    “Keep ‘em coming, Phil. You are like fine wine, you get better with age!”

    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?

    “P.S. I especially liked your use of the term goyim. Perhaps in future, you might even adopt the use of my trademark phrase, The Dumb Goyim, in one of your articles.”

    You should consider a “tax deductible educational foundation’. After all, 501(c)(3) status is good enough for AIPAC, AEI, AE9/11Truth and Dr. Phil. How about DGI – Dumb Goyim Institute? Don’t worry. “Educational foundations” hold no classes, grant no degrees and need only believe in tax avoidance. AE9/11Truth took in $834,619 in tax deductible contributions. Not bad for Dick Gage, otherwise an undistinguished architect. Doubtless his foundation will last a (profitable) lifetime. DGI’s could too, Geo.

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    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?
     
    You forgot Iran '79.

    Anyhow, things are changing fast. Nasrallah is very relaxed and Iran is at the doorsteps of ISISRael.

    What more one can ask?

    Think Peace - Paul!
    , @geokat62

    Simple. There are larger challenges to our future.
     
    Larger than that posed by the "special relationship" which may bring us to the brink of nuclear annihilation if The Lobby gets it way in demonizing Putin as the next Hitler and Russia as the revanchist empire.

    Meanwhile the building burns down.

    I support ME policy reform.
     

    Could you elaborate a bit about what reform you have in mind?

    You – first generation Greco-Canadian – want to end diversity, place yourself among the select and create a Euro-Ethno-State. A homogenous, exclusive nation. Details to follow.
     
    There you go again. Repealing the mass immigration laws is the equivalent of establishing planet Germania in your mind. As your good buddy once put it, it is all in the numbers. A little salt in the stew is pleasing... too much and it spoils the dish.

    An arsonist-would-be-fire chief. Focus solely on the scapegoat. Nothing less will do. No other problem exists.
     
    Back to the arsonist analogy, I see. As you know, The Lobby is chiefly responsible for setting things on fire. I'm just a dumb goy trying to put out the flames with a small bucket of water.

    We must return to ‘Ein Volk’ – a state of drab uniformity, unquestioning obedience, blessed dictatorship. Ah, the good old race-baiting days. What could be better?
     
    I see. You are a proponent of Diversity Is Our Strength meme? Rather than closing the floodgates, you're content if the European and European-derived countries become minorities... one of many cultures in a multicultural dreamland? Did you happen to read Lawrence Auster's Path To National Suicide? If so, I suggest you give it another, more careful, read this time.

    Why not decant the grand-cru? CIA ME involvement. Iran ’53? Gulf Wars 1 & 2? Libya, Syria? Possible sans CIA? Or is ‘the Lobby’ solely at fault?
     
    Not sure what role The Lobby played in Iran '53, but there is no doubt it took centre stage in the other theatres of war you listed.

    You should consider a “tax deductible educational foundation’. After all, 501(c)(3) status is good enough for AIPAC,... How about DGI - Dumb Goyim Institute?
     
    That's the best advice you've proffered yet, Incy. I'll have to follow-up with The Lobby to get the scoop on how to go about setting something like this up. Thanks!
    , @Art
    People here – and only here – talk of little else.

    ONLY HERE?

    Oh dear'- how you Jews can lie - every day there are more intelligent people getting on to you Jews. Every day now, there are more YouTube personalities banging Jews and Israel, more gutsy blogs taking on you Jews.

    You own the top because you buy them – but only the top – the elite upper middle’s loyalty is an inch deep – they will turn on you in a NY minute.

    People are seeing who is crying for more war – JEWS. How long will it be before someone will ask a warmonger “are you a Jew?”

    You Jews are responsible for 9/11, the Iraq war and aftermath, and the nuke Samson threat to the world.

    Buck up boy!

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. You Jews are fighting fighting fighting – but the American people do not even know that there is a war going on – that is changing.
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  • @Hubbard

    I just saw an ad by the “International Fellowship of Christians and Jews” asking money to support the poor old and homeless “Holocaust Survivors.”
     
    Keep up the good work, bro!

    RobinG has already been exposed as a hasbara troll. She went after Tammy with vengeance. And, of course TalhaGhee faned the fires further. In the end, thing always happen for the good and the real trolls exposed themselves.

    TalhaGhee, a Pakistani tried to teach Arabic from Lexicon to Tammy who is a real Arab. That "to submit", which is an order is not a verb, but a noun. Go figure!

    Your gripe is about Shia killings, which is natural. But, you should make your struggle (jihad) to expose lies about Islam. Lies against Islam by Muslims themselves.

    Think Peace - Paul!

    Your gripe is about Shia killings, which is natural. But, you should make your struggle (jihad) to expose lies about Islam. Lies against Islam by Muslims themselves.

    That is what I have been trying to do but I have to do it in bits and pieces. Unfortunately, the people on this thread are not interested in learning about what Islam really is. Terrorism is more interesting to them. I have said many times that there is no such thing as “radical Islam.” There are only “radical Muslims.” These are two different things. I would love to teach people about the real Islam if I am given the opportunity. The neocons are afraid that if people found out about real Islam, the truth will be revealed and the people will turn against them. The Wahhabis have the same problem. They don’t want the real Islam revealed either.

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    Unfortunately, the people on this thread are not interested in learning about what Islam really is.
     
    I believe that a big reason is that most here (including the hasbara trolls) know that Islam isn't the problem made out to be by the mass media, neocons and Zionists.

    The ones who think it's a problem and the trolls who want it to be portrayed as such are not worth trying to convince.

    I believe that our main efforts need to be focused on the perpetra(i)tors of our problems and that discussing Islam itself represents a distraction. The discussion ought to focus on the perfidy of the Zionistas and Izzy-firsters. Their never ending string of lies, trickery, deception, and other outrages against humanity need to be fought head on.

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  • @Hubbard
    Very interesting videos, Paul!

    How quaint the times when torture and Jewish power were discussed ever so coily.


    Hi Chris,

    Yes, one can see the Shah is almost repenting. He did lots of good too, while he was in power. In the late 60's and early 70's lots of Iranian students were in USA on scholarship due to Shah. Today, if Iran is in forefront of scientific field is mostly due to these returnee students.

    Islam was hijacked on the onset. The first 4 verses to Prophet of Islam were about, "Read and Write".

    Education!

    Of course, the Quran is not in serial order of revelation, not only by chapters, but verses within the chapters too. Go figure!

    Totally, there are 114 chapters in Quran, the verses of "Read and Write" are in chapter 96. Well hidden!

    Recite in the name of your Lord who created, created man from a clinging substance. Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous, Who taught by the pen. (Chapter 96, Verses 1-4)

    https://muflihun.com/96
     
    It says, Sahih (Authenticated) International translation, read Wahhabi translation. The true translation is "Read and Write" and not "Recite and Write". Most Muzzies don't know Arabic and rely on skewed translations. Those who know Arabic, have not read the full Quran.

    Think Peace - Paul!

    Islam was hijacked on the onset. The first 4 verses to Prophet of Islam were about, “Read and Write”.

    You are right about Islam being hijacked but it was not about reading or writing. Islam has emphasized education at every step. There are several sayings of the Prophet about acquiring education. He called himself the “City of Knowledge.” He was there to guide them and help them learn. Another one says to go as far as China (implying distance here, not literally to China) to acquire knowledge. In the beginning of the second chapter Allah says

    “This is the book for which there is no doubt. A guidance for those conscious of Allah.”( Qur’an, 2:1)

    A book was not sent down just to look at. Reading is implied. A book has to be read and the prophet came to teach and explain what was revealed.

    Of course, the Quran is not in serial order of revelation, not only by chapters, but verses within the chapters too. Go figure!

    This arrangement was directed by the Prophet and for a reason. This is neither the place nor there is enough space to go into the details of why. But there are books that explain this arrangement.

    The true translation is “Read and Write” and not “Recite and Write”. Most Muzzies don’t know Arabic and rely on skewed translations.

    You are wrong here. You are also assuming too many things here and making a broad statements. You have no way of knowing who has read Qur’an and who hasn’t. You are also implying that you know Arabic. The correct translation is “to recite.” The prophet was not handed a book and asked to read it. He was given some verses and asked to recite.

    Those who know Arabic, have not read the full Quran.

    One can only laugh at a statement like that. No intelligent person will say something like it.

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    The correct translation is “to recite.”
     
    Wrong! I am not going to argue with you. Here is Google Translation for:

    Read: https://translate.google.com/#en/ar/Read

    Recite: https://translate.google.com/#en/ar/Recite

    The word in the Quran is Akra which means Read.

    One can only laugh at a statement like that. No intelligent person will say something like it.
     
    Wrong! How many people who know English have read the full Bible? Even how many Christians with English being their first language have read the full Bible?

    Unfortunately, the people on this thread are not interested in learning about what Islam really is.
     
    You really don't get it, do you? I didn't say that, what I said, read it below again:

    Hubbard said: Your gripe is about Shia killings, which is natural. But, you should make your struggle (jihad) to expose lies about Islam. Lies against Islam by Muslims themselves.
     
    Think Peace – Paul!
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  • @MEexpert
    I just saw an ad by the "International Fellowship of Christians and Jews" asking money to support the poor old and homeless "Holocaust Survivors."

    With the likes of Sheldon Adelson, Haim Saban, Goerge Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Michael Bloomberg, Larry Ellison, and a multitude of Jewish Hollywood billionaires, such as, Fox News President Peter Chernin; Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey; Walt Disney CEO Robert Igor; Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton; Warner Brothers Chairman Barry Meyer; CBS CEO Leslie Moonves; MGM Chairman Harry Sloan; and NBC/Universal Studios CEO Jeff Zucker, they want us poor working class to dole out more money for these "poor" survivors.

    I just saw an ad by the “International Fellowship of Christians and Jews” asking money to support the poor old and homeless “Holocaust Survivors.”

    Keep up the good work, bro!

    RobinG has already been exposed as a hasbara troll. She went after Tammy with vengeance. And, of course TalhaGhee faned the fires further. In the end, thing always happen for the good and the real trolls exposed themselves.

    TalhaGhee, a Pakistani tried to teach Arabic from Lexicon to Tammy who is a real Arab. That “to submit”, which is an order is not a verb, but a noun. Go figure!

    Your gripe is about Shia killings, which is natural. But, you should make your struggle (jihad) to expose lies about Islam. Lies against Islam by Muslims themselves.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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    Your gripe is about Shia killings, which is natural. But, you should make your struggle (jihad) to expose lies about Islam. Lies against Islam by Muslims themselves.
     
    That is what I have been trying to do but I have to do it in bits and pieces. Unfortunately, the people on this thread are not interested in learning about what Islam really is. Terrorism is more interesting to them. I have said many times that there is no such thing as "radical Islam." There are only "radical Muslims." These are two different things. I would love to teach people about the real Islam if I am given the opportunity. The neocons are afraid that if people found out about real Islam, the truth will be revealed and the people will turn against them. The Wahhabis have the same problem. They don't want the real Islam revealed either.
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Hubbard asked me: "I will use it from now on with your permission."

    Hi Hubbard,

    I am not the creator of the very comical nickname "Little Orphan iffen." Another commenter invented it and unlike you, I started to use the name without courteously asking the author's permission.

    The nickname irked iffen and he whined about it to Maven Shama. And such is a documentable victory.

    Thanks!

    The nickname irked iffen and he whined about it to Maven Shama. And such is a documentable victory.

    Little Orphan iffen, saying it makes my day.

    God bless you…

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @jilles dykstra
    Read the books written by himself,
    Bernard M. Baruch, ‘Die Jahre des Dienens’, München 1962 (The public years, New York, 1960)
    Bernard M. Baruch, Gute 88 Jahre, Autobiographie, München 1963 (New York)
    or the biography
    Margaret L. Coit, ‘Mr. Baruch’, Cambridge MA, 1957
    Nowhere any mention of support of zionism.
    Many jews in the USA saw the USA as 'the new zion', therefore were opposed to zionism.
    Though all the anti zionist jewish organisations world wide dissolved themselves after Israel was established in 1948, it was not until 1967 that most jews in the world began to support Israel.
    Even in 1946 Baruch tried to establish a world government.

    Read the books written by himself,
    Bernard M. Baruch…
    Nowhere any mention of support of zionism.

    That, my dear friend, is illogical.

    Think of it this way: How many pedophiles would admit to it?

    Baruch was an “adviser” of 6 US presidents, all of whom licked Zionist boots, then bent over for a Zio-reaming on command. That ought to suggest a few things.

    During the period of violence in Palestine which culminated in the pogrom of Arabs at Deir Yasin, this Mr. [Ben] Hecht inserted a full-page advertisement in many of the leading newspapers throughout America. It was addressed “To the [Zionist]Terrorists of Palestine” and included this message:

    “The Jews of America are for you. You are their champions . . . Every time you blow up a British arsenal, or wreck a British railroad train sky high, or rob a British bank, or let go with your guns and bombs at the British betrayers and invaders of your homeland, the Jews of America make a little holiday in their hearts”.

    It was the author of this advertisement (according to his autobiography) whom Mr. Baruch chose to visit and inform of his affinity and support:

    “One day the door of my room opened and a tall white-haired man entered. It was Bernard Baruch, my first Jewish social visitor. He sat down, observed me for a moment and then spoke. ‘I am on your side’, said Baruch, ‘the only way the Jews will ever get anything is by fighting for it. I’d like you to think of me as one of your Jewish fighters in the tall grass with a long gun. I’ve always done my best work that way, out of sight’. ”

    -Douglas Reed, “the Controversy of Zion,” p 472 (~1955) -

    https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt

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  • @Hubbard

    Little Orphan iffen
     
    I like your description much better than Tammy's, "Little Cow Worshiper", if you catch my drift.

    I will use it from now on with your permission.

    Think Peace - Paul!

    Hubbard asked me: “I will use it from now on with your permission.”

    Hi Hubbard,

    I am not the creator of the very comical nickname “Little Orphan iffen.” Another commenter invented it and unlike you, I started to use the name without courteously asking the author’s permission.

    The nickname irked iffen and he whined about it to Maven Shama. And such is a documentable victory.

    Thanks!

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    The nickname irked iffen and he whined about it to Maven Shama. And such is a documentable victory.
     
    Little Orphan iffen, saying it makes my day.

    God bless you...

    Think Peace - Paul!
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  • @RobinG
    You ignore whom, exactly? A few trolls on the internet? Meanwhile, the whole world is ignoring you.

    You ignore whom, exactly? A few trolls on the internet? Meanwhile, the whole world is ignoring you.

    Except for you!

    Please join the world.

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  • @RobinG
    Too bad there was that much on Stephen Cooper. What difference does it make who he is? Who are you, anyway? It was apparent 2 years ago that you didn't realize I was gently mocking when I asked if you wanted jumbo-trons on the Mall. No, I never thought a "big march" was a good idea. That's because I knew you didn't have a prayer. If you'd tried, I would have supported you (on the keyboard), that's all.

    Phil's key point, which you ignore, is his change of strategy.

    I used to believe that educating the American public about what is really going on in the Middle East would bring about a change in policy. I don’t believe it any longer because Jews control the media and the message.
    ..... as soon as Jewish American liberals get on board and convince themselves that they cannot stand any more of the lying about Israel change will come. It is all about Jewish power in America, but this time as a potential positive force.
     
    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances. Your poll questions are irrelevant. There's a world of difference between saying we shouldn't give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn't a holocaust.

    Who are you, anyway?

    Like you, I’m a nobody.

    If you’d tried, I would have supported you (on the keyboard), that’s all.

    Good to know the level of support people are prepared to give.

    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner… and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.

    To be clear, I’ve never asserted any of these things. I merely was curious to see what Sam’s view was on the Rothbard quote, which I happened to find quite intriguing, as most reasonable people presumably would, were they to come across it for the first time. What’s your view on Rothbard’s assertions?

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    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @geokat62

    So many rabbit holes. Logical fallacies are such a waste.
     
    So, to undercut the musings of AJ Taylor you quote the great Stephen Cooper? I have to admit, the first thought that came to my mind was who is this Stephen Cooper? Is he such an acclaimed authority on WWII that his words can put to shame those of AJ Taylor's. So, I decided to do a little search and discovered the great Stephen Copper is one of five people to review Taylor's magnum opus on Amazon.

    I clicked on Stephen's name to get more info on him. Here's what is provided:

    About
    South Yorkshire, England
    I enjoy writing, both reviews and my own articles for History Today and books, the latest of which is Cocos Island and the Treasure of Lima (2017, Create Space, USA)
    Reviewer ranking
    #4,215

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Origins-Second-World-War/product-reviews/B000O6MJT0?pageNumber=7
     
    NB - did you notice that impressive reviewer ranking? Not quite the towering authority as an AJ Taylor, is he?

    ... reminds me of your call for a “really, really big march on DC.” Turned out to be too daunting. Way too few people with your particular priorities. Building a movement way too difficult. So, just talk.
     
    While initially skeptical, didn't you eventually warm up to the idea, especially after Phil endorsed it?

    I still think, however, if Trump does Adelson's bidding and decides the remove enemy #7 on AIPAC's hit list, a mass protest may have some merit. But, hey, what do I know? I'm just a crazy Canuck who has peculiar priorities. Better to push a bought and paid for congress to co-sponsor bills to halt US arms supplies to Syria, I guess.

    So, to undercut the musings of AJ Taylor you quote the great Stephen Cooper?

    So RobinG turns out to be a Hasbara Troll.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @Wally
    They benefit the same way all Jews benefit from The Big Lie.

    Power, prestige, preferrential treatment, Jew Privilege, etc.


    "We can force through any lie. It just has to be big enough so that a normal person says, 'Well that cannot be a lie!'. Then the lie cannot be recognized as such. And the lie has to be repeated continuously. Then it is believed and is powerful because it is the belief in a 'truth.'"

    - from 'Propaganda', by Zionist Jew Edward Bernays
     

    www.codoh.com

    Wally, you are good man and keep up the good work.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Sam Shama to me: "I recall you canvassing for that coveted position of dogsbody-in-chief to the Gnatster. Any progress? Can’t wait for the new video releases, featuring the new duo. Ron Unz might consider adding a new sub-section entitled ‘The Comic Strip at Unz’ Cheerio."

    Good morning Maven,

    An update on your concerned inquiry, above:
    Due to intensifying Corporate Media lies and subtle ZUS military pressure placed upon Russia and potential for hostile Jewish "blowback" upon the large American-Russian Orthodox community, I intuit Real Jew News (umderstandably) has a "hiring freeze" in effect at present, & subsequently..., I will happily stick with driving school bus.

    Otherwise, I would support Ron Unz adding an occassional "Comic Strip" (subsection) at the U.R.

    Linked below is an example of a creative one from The Israel Lobby Archive. Catchy, both Little Orphan iffen and you can sing-a-long with the video's cool blend of American Country and contrasting Arabic music.

    https://youtu.be/Y2q1ZCn1FKk

    Little Orphan iffen

    I like your description much better than Tammy’s, “Little Cow Worshiper”, if you catch my drift.

    I will use it from now on with your permission.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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    Hubbard asked me: "I will use it from now on with your permission."

    Hi Hubbard,

    I am not the creator of the very comical nickname "Little Orphan iffen." Another commenter invented it and unlike you, I started to use the name without courteously asking the author's permission.

    The nickname irked iffen and he whined about it to Maven Shama. And such is a documentable victory.

    Thanks!
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Murray Rothbard quoted as having said: "Truth and rationality are always the first victims in any war frenzy;"

    Hi geokat,

    Had I suffered from making comments from the dark side (crypt) as consistently does Maven Shama, and knowing you are around & inclined to retaliate with logical & documented common sense, I'd beware the embarrassing (self inflicted) consequences.

    But despite the Mave's hazardous blend of arrogance & alleged superior I.Q., I reflect and admit, "There but for the grace of Jesus Christ, there go I."

    Re; Mr. Rothbard's profound words above,
    To some degree, I posit that within the scope of (present) dumb goyim ltd. memory is the G.W. Bush administration's Fall 2001 unnecessary & immoral attack upon Afghanistan.

    During an opportune "frenzy" which included a need for anthrax attacks upon even Jewish Lobby-friendly Congress, the Neoconservatives lunged at going to war because of the Taliban's hesitation to handover OBL to the same justice system that avoided a forensic investigation of the 9/11 attacks. W.T.F.?

    Going forward with your comment, geo, the Maven is likely to do one of the following three respnse options:

    1. Dig himself deeper into his dark hole.
    2. Change the subject.
    3. Attack me.
    4. Shut up.

    Thank you very much!

    SolontoCroesus (Comment 486) “Stirred, not shaken”

    To some degree, I posit that within the scope of (present) dumb goyim ltd. memory is the G.W. Bush administration’s Fall 2001 unnecessary & immoral attack upon Afghanistan.

    During an opportune “frenzy” which included a need for anthrax attacks upon even Jewish Lobby-friendly Congress, the Neoconservatives lunged at going to war because of the Taliban’s hesitation to handover OBL to the same justice system that avoided a forensic investigation of the 9/11 attacks. W.T.F.?

    Watched the E Michael Jones video posted by S2C in his comment #486. What a waste of one hour. Both Carter and Evil Kissinger are portrayed as angels. It was Evil Carter, who brought the Taliban in power and destroyed the secular Afghanistan, which had mixed gender higher education institutions prior to 1950. Evil Carter brought Taliban for three reasons:

    1. To bleed USSR
    2. To overthrow the Shah, see my comment 526. Carter tried to put 2 stooges for replacement of Shah, but it didn’t work. Thus, Taliban an insurance policy against the then powerful Iran.
    3. To destroy secular Muslims countries along with their mixed gender higher education institutions.

    Clinton did the same with Sudan, being a secular country with mixed gender higher education institutions. It all started prior to 9/11.

    Taliban means, a student who strives for knowledge, but this knowledge is limited to Wahhabism, and for men only. Mui Macho!

    After 9/11 things are being put to right. Who is the real enemy finally recognized and realized.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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    Watched the E Michael Jones video posted by S2C in his comment #486. What a waste of one hour. Both Carter and Evil Kissinger are portrayed as angels. It was Evil Carter, who brought the Taliban in power and destroyed the secular Afghanistan, which had mixed gender higher education institutions prior to 1950. Evil Carter brought Taliban for three reasons:
     
    Didn't re-review the video, but to the best of my recollection, Jones did cover a lot of ground and knock a few, if not each and every, icon off his undeserved pedestal.

    I agree, Kissinger is evil incarnate, not least for arranging the rescue of Israel in 1973. I believe I heard that Iranians protested in the streets when Iran did not join the oil boycott.

    As for Carter -- we have him to thank for the United States Holocaust Museum and freak-show/trojan horse at USA's front door -- Carter gave the land and the green-light to Golda Meier (rhymes with freier) in exchange for Israeli participation in peace initiatives. Israel, of course, welched on the peace bargains, but got the museum.

    Eager to hear more about Carter and the Afghanis. I'm aware only of Zbigniew Brzezinski's machinations re Mujahaddin and also setting off Iran-Iraq war. About a decade ago on a flight to Iran I sat next to an Iranian woman who was returning from Germany where she had visited her brother in a German hospital. She had X-rays of his lungs -- he had been among those 50,000 or so Iranians permanently injured in gas attacks in which USA was complicit. "He will never leave the hospital," my seat mate made me understand.

    One final thought -- on that visit to Iran we met a number of Afghani refugees in towns outside Mashad, near Harat. Iran has been home to well over 2 million refugees from the Iraq wars as well as Afghanistan. One Afghani we talked with was angry: he had been in Iran for most of his live, had been able to complete high school, but could not get into college in Iran. He could not return to his home country. Iranian friends told us there was a 'cottage industry' of Afghanis attempting to get American visitors to Iran to befriend them and help them get to USA.
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  • @chris

    A place like this is not only for posting your views, but also for reading others, and learning something, and on occasion, being edified, or if you’re really lucky, exalted in some way from the wisdom and perspective and knowledge of others, no?
     
    Yeah, that’s very well put, Rurik; that’s how I feel about it.

    Rurik: “A place like this is not only for posting your views, but also for reading others, and learning something, and on occasion, being edified, or if you’re really lucky, exalted in some way from the wisdom and perspective and knowledge of others, no?”

    Yeah, that’s very well put, Rurik; that’s how I feel about it.

    Exactly, my sentiments too!

    Think Peace – Paul!

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  • @Cloak And Dagger

    Oh dear heavens, “The Rothschilds!” I hadn’t pinned you for one those
     
    Yes, relegate me to the dreaded ranks of conspiracy-theorists and tin foil hatted kooks. It is a tried and safe defense.

    Good night and safe travels. I may not be able to respond to you in detail until next weekend except in small blurbs, should you choose to further engage tomorrow, so apologies in advance. I have not yet attained the leisure of the idle rich.

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  • @jacques sheete

    Baruch was not a zionist
     
    Prove it, or it's a lie.

    Read the books written by himself,
    Bernard M. Baruch, ‘Die Jahre des Dienens’, München 1962 (The public years, New York, 1960)
    Bernard M. Baruch, Gute 88 Jahre, Autobiographie, München 1963 (New York)
    or the biography
    Margaret L. Coit, ‘Mr. Baruch’, Cambridge MA, 1957
    Nowhere any mention of support of zionism.
    Many jews in the USA saw the USA as ‘the new zion’, therefore were opposed to zionism.
    Though all the anti zionist jewish organisations world wide dissolved themselves after Israel was established in 1948, it was not until 1967 that most jews in the world began to support Israel.
    Even in 1946 Baruch tried to establish a world government.

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    Read the books written by himself,
    Bernard M. Baruch...
    Nowhere any mention of support of zionism.
     
    That, my dear friend, is illogical.

    Think of it this way: How many pedophiles would admit to it?

    Baruch was an "adviser" of 6 US presidents, all of whom licked Zionist boots, then bent over for a Zio-reaming on command. That ought to suggest a few things.


    During the period of violence in Palestine which culminated in the pogrom of Arabs at Deir Yasin, this Mr. [Ben] Hecht inserted a full-page advertisement in many of the leading newspapers throughout America. It was addressed "To the [Zionist]Terrorists of Palestine" and included this message:


    "The Jews of America are for you. You are their champions . . . Every time you blow up a British arsenal, or wreck a British railroad train sky high, or rob a British bank, or let go with your guns and bombs at the British betrayers and invaders of your homeland, the Jews of America make a little holiday in their hearts".


    It was the author of this advertisement (according to his autobiography) whom Mr. Baruch chose to visit and inform of his affinity and support:


    "One day the door of my room opened and a tall white-haired man entered. It was Bernard Baruch, my first Jewish social visitor. He sat down, observed me for a moment and then spoke. 'I am on your side', said Baruch, ‘the only way the Jews will ever get anything is by fighting for it. I'd like you to think of me as one of your Jewish fighters in the tall grass with a long gun. I’ve always done my best work that way, out of sight'. "


    -Douglas Reed, “the Controversy of Zion,” p 472 (~1955) -

    https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt

     

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  • @chris
    Very interesting videos, Paul!

    How quaint the times when torture and Jewish power were discussed ever so coily.

    Very interesting videos, Paul!

    How quaint the times when torture and Jewish power were discussed ever so coily.

    Hi Chris,

    Yes, one can see the Shah is almost repenting. He did lots of good too, while he was in power. In the late 60′s and early 70′s lots of Iranian students were in USA on scholarship due to Shah. Today, if Iran is in forefront of scientific field is mostly due to these returnee students.

    Islam was hijacked on the onset. The first 4 verses to Prophet of Islam were about, “Read and Write”.

    Education!

    Of course, the Quran is not in serial order of revelation, not only by chapters, but verses within the chapters too. Go figure!

    Totally, there are 114 chapters in Quran, the verses of “Read and Write” are in chapter 96. Well hidden!

    Recite in the name of your Lord who created, created man from a clinging substance. Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous, Who taught by the pen. (Chapter 96, Verses 1-4)

    https://muflihun.com/96

    It says, Sahih (Authenticated) International translation, read Wahhabi translation. The true translation is “Read and Write” and not “Recite and Write”. Most Muzzies don’t know Arabic and rely on skewed translations. Those who know Arabic, have not read the full Quran.

    Think Peace – Paul!

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    Islam was hijacked on the onset. The first 4 verses to Prophet of Islam were about, “Read and Write”.
     
    You are right about Islam being hijacked but it was not about reading or writing. Islam has emphasized education at every step. There are several sayings of the Prophet about acquiring education. He called himself the "City of Knowledge." He was there to guide them and help them learn. Another one says to go as far as China (implying distance here, not literally to China) to acquire knowledge. In the beginning of the second chapter Allah says

    "This is the book for which there is no doubt. A guidance for those conscious of Allah."( Qur'an, 2:1)
     
    A book was not sent down just to look at. Reading is implied. A book has to be read and the prophet came to teach and explain what was revealed.

    Of course, the Quran is not in serial order of revelation, not only by chapters, but verses within the chapters too. Go figure!
     
    This arrangement was directed by the Prophet and for a reason. This is neither the place nor there is enough space to go into the details of why. But there are books that explain this arrangement.

    The true translation is “Read and Write” and not “Recite and Write”. Most Muzzies don’t know Arabic and rely on skewed translations.
     
    You are wrong here. You are also assuming too many things here and making a broad statements. You have no way of knowing who has read Qur'an and who hasn't. You are also implying that you know Arabic. The correct translation is "to recite." The prophet was not handed a book and asked to read it. He was given some verses and asked to recite.

    Those who know Arabic, have not read the full Quran.
     
    One can only laugh at a statement like that. No intelligent person will say something like it.
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  • I just saw an ad by the “International Fellowship of Christians and Jews” asking money to support the poor old and homeless “Holocaust Survivors.”

    With the likes of Sheldon Adelson, Haim Saban, Goerge Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Michael Bloomberg, Larry Ellison, and a multitude of Jewish Hollywood billionaires, such as, Fox News President Peter Chernin; Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey; Walt Disney CEO Robert Igor; Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton; Warner Brothers Chairman Barry Meyer; CBS CEO Leslie Moonves; MGM Chairman Harry Sloan; and NBC/Universal Studios CEO Jeff Zucker, they want us poor working class to dole out more money for these “poor” survivors.

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    I just saw an ad by the “International Fellowship of Christians and Jews” asking money to support the poor old and homeless “Holocaust Survivors.”
     
    Keep up the good work, bro!

    RobinG has already been exposed as a hasbara troll. She went after Tammy with vengeance. And, of course TalhaGhee faned the fires further. In the end, thing always happen for the good and the real trolls exposed themselves.

    TalhaGhee, a Pakistani tried to teach Arabic from Lexicon to Tammy who is a real Arab. That "to submit", which is an order is not a verb, but a noun. Go figure!

    Your gripe is about Shia killings, which is natural. But, you should make your struggle (jihad) to expose lies about Islam. Lies against Islam by Muslims themselves.

    Think Peace - Paul!
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  • @geokat62

    So many rabbit holes. Logical fallacies are such a waste.
     
    So, to undercut the musings of AJ Taylor you quote the great Stephen Cooper? I have to admit, the first thought that came to my mind was who is this Stephen Cooper? Is he such an acclaimed authority on WWII that his words can put to shame those of AJ Taylor's. So, I decided to do a little search and discovered the great Stephen Copper is one of five people to review Taylor's magnum opus on Amazon.

    I clicked on Stephen's name to get more info on him. Here's what is provided:

    About
    South Yorkshire, England
    I enjoy writing, both reviews and my own articles for History Today and books, the latest of which is Cocos Island and the Treasure of Lima (2017, Create Space, USA)
    Reviewer ranking
    #4,215

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Origins-Second-World-War/product-reviews/B000O6MJT0?pageNumber=7
     
    NB - did you notice that impressive reviewer ranking? Not quite the towering authority as an AJ Taylor, is he?

    ... reminds me of your call for a “really, really big march on DC.” Turned out to be too daunting. Way too few people with your particular priorities. Building a movement way too difficult. So, just talk.
     
    While initially skeptical, didn't you eventually warm up to the idea, especially after Phil endorsed it?

    I still think, however, if Trump does Adelson's bidding and decides the remove enemy #7 on AIPAC's hit list, a mass protest may have some merit. But, hey, what do I know? I'm just a crazy Canuck who has peculiar priorities. Better to push a bought and paid for congress to co-sponsor bills to halt US arms supplies to Syria, I guess.

    Too bad there was that much on Stephen Cooper. What difference does it make who he is? Who are you, anyway? It was apparent 2 years ago that you didn’t realize I was gently mocking when I asked if you wanted jumbo-trons on the Mall. No, I never thought a “big march” was a good idea. That’s because I knew you didn’t have a prayer. If you’d tried, I would have supported you (on the keyboard), that’s all.

    Phil’s key point, which you ignore, is his change of strategy.

    I used to believe that educating the American public about what is really going on in the Middle East would bring about a change in policy. I don’t believe it any longer because Jews control the media and the message.
    ….. as soon as Jewish American liberals get on board and convince themselves that they cannot stand any more of the lying about Israel change will come. It is all about Jewish power in America, but this time as a potential positive force.

    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances. Your poll questions are irrelevant. There’s a world of difference between saying we shouldn’t give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.

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    Who are you, anyway?
     
    Like you, I'm a nobody.

    If you’d tried, I would have supported you (on the keyboard), that’s all.
     
    Good to know the level of support people are prepared to give.

    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner... and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
     
    To be clear, I've never asserted any of these things. I merely was curious to see what Sam's view was on the Rothbard quote, which I happened to find quite intriguing, as most reasonable people presumably would, were they to come across it for the first time. What's your view on Rothbard's assertions?
    , @SolontoCroesus

    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances.
     
    In fact, RobinG, and as you may know or should well know, S2 (I speak only for my avatar) has engaged in alliance - building-- in the early 1990s I created a group to introduce more representative religious programming on TV in my community. The leadership team I recruited included Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Unitarians, United Methodists, Mormons-- I shared a podium with Jack Anderson at a 3-day Harvest Fest at Mormon Temple. When J-Street was an embryo I and the Pax Christi group I was part of participated in J-Street training at Jewish community centers and synagogues; we went together to JCC when Jews trotted out Izzeldin Abuelaish in a dog-and-pony show to demonstrate how virtuous Jews were; Pax Christi organized a potluck dinner to be held at my home to which representatives of five different Christian and Jewish churches/synagogues were invited -- the Christian groups all were enthusiastic, no Jewish group accepted the invitation.

    I've hosted Iranian authors and arranged 'religious-cultural exchange' between Roman Catholics and Muslims at which scholars from prestigious universities discussed the congruences in literature and poetry from their separate traditions.

    As you know, I've done street-protest (a waste of time except for having met some interesting people), participated in memorials to victims.

    As somebody elsewhere on this thread (iirc) said, Jews don't respond to rational arguments, they're for the powerless, Jews take the power position from the outset. I've wasted my time -- at greater personal cost than you can imagine -- engaging in what I honestly thought was "Christian" or "golden rule"-based collegiality. Nothing bore fruit.

    . . . relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances . . . ?
    Firstly, I don't see that those in my position have ever been in the center of the room; I see my activities as working a way out of the corner.

    Second, One does not make alliances with the enemy. Cloak And Dagger posted a passionate comment here http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whats-wrong-with-liberal-jews/#comment-2170043 including the appropriateness of "hating." Sam Shama took offense. But Shama posted no response to the Abby Martin video where Jewish Americans- now- Israelis giggled as they urged "kill all Arabs," while other Israeli Jews declared Jews had the right to hate Arabs, and that Gaza should be carpet bombed.

    I struggle not to react with hate when my blood boils at the outrageous inhumanity Jews in Israel and Jews in US, including Jews in positions of power and influence, mete out against Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, and Germans. I was raised not to hate. But I do hate what Jews have done and are doing to my own Italian culture, in Italy as also in USA and elsewhere, and to the American form of Constitutional Republicanism.

    In a talk at London Forum in 2016 E Michael Jones told the audience, "the gospels of my religion tell to Love my Enemies. It's hard, I know. But I love Jews! It's what my religion tells me to do!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc

    The threshold recognition must be that Jews are the enemy.

    Earlier, Jones said that "Catholics internalize the demands of their oppressors."
    So do most of us; it is extremely uncomfortable to stand toe-to-toe with someone who can harm you or, worst of all, harm your children, and say, What you are doing is wrong and criminal; you are my enemy."

    Far from our "special relation," or our "perpetual ally," Israel is inimical to most of what USA stands for.
    That is a threshold realization that must be communicated, not least to US Congress: When you, Mr. Congressman, give money to Israel to use to kill Palestinians, you are complicit in murder. The person/entity that elicits that collaboration is not your friend, does not represent your values nor the founding principles of your government, they are your enemy. For you to support them is to support an enemy to the American people.

    If a teen-aged, unarmed, impoverished Palestinian girl could stand up to her enemy, why can't we?
    Why can't the US Congress?

    There’s a world of difference between saying we shouldn’t give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
     
    Two more points:
    First, re: "we shouldn't give Israel so much support." How much support should one give to an enemy? In your estimation, how far into your house should you invite a thief, or a murderer?

    Second, re: asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn’t a holocaust.
    They did (as to WWII), and there wasn't -- not as to Jews. There was a holocaust of Germans, and Japanese.

    Take a look at Patrick Cockburn's current article to see why it is still important to drive that point home, relentlessly, objectively, passionately and with no quarter given. It’s Time We Saw Sanctions for What They Really Are – War Crimes, with special attention to comment #2.
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  • @jacques sheete

    So far, so good. What do you use, if not facts and logic?
     
    I've learned from them to use mockery. When I get tired of that, I ignore 'em. That drives 'em even nuttier.

    I must've inherited a few sadistic Zio-genes somewhere along the line even though I'm not aware of any bestiality in the family.

    Hey, that rhymes! ;)

    You ignore whom, exactly? A few trolls on the internet? Meanwhile, the whole world is ignoring you.

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    You ignore whom, exactly? A few trolls on the internet? Meanwhile, the whole world is ignoring you.
     
    Except for you!

    Please join the world.
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  • @Sam Shama
    Oh dear heavens, "The Rothschilds!" I hadn't pinned you for one those....Well perhaps tomorrow. Early flight to St. Louis, another visit to the heartland, I'm happy to say...

    Good Night

    Oh dear heavens, “The Rothschilds!” I hadn’t pinned you for one those

    Yes, relegate me to the dreaded ranks of conspiracy-theorists and tin foil hatted kooks. It is a tried and safe defense.

    Good night and safe travels. I may not be able to respond to you in detail until next weekend except in small blurbs, should you choose to further engage tomorrow, so apologies in advance. I have not yet attained the leisure of the idle rich.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Hi geokat,

    As predicted, the Maven Shama avoided the topic of Murray Rothbard's admirable quotation which you provided to us.

    A highfalutin' fool, he called Rothbard a "fool."

    Maybe you will enjoy the video link (speech below) where Mr. Rothbard is credited for being an exceptional Germanophile andii revionist historian.

    https://youtu.be/2Kj7tJpwYRc

    Maybe you will enjoy the video link (speech below) where Mr. Rothbard is credited for being an exceptional Germanophile andii revisionist historian.

    I think Rothbard was “intuitive” too, evunnnn! ;)

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Hi geokat,

    As predicted, the Maven Shama avoided the topic of Murray Rothbard's admirable quotation which you provided to us.

    A highfalutin' fool, he called Rothbard a "fool."

    Maybe you will enjoy the video link (speech below) where Mr. Rothbard is credited for being an exceptional Germanophile andii revionist historian.

    https://youtu.be/2Kj7tJpwYRc

    A highfalutin’ fool, he called Rothbard a “fool.”

    Rothbard was Jewish; therefore in the (degenerated) spirit of the times, I call any fool criticizing Rothbard an anti-Semite!

    That oughta shut it up! Uh huh.

    Rothbard would no doubt laugh Krugman outta the room on any topic regarding economics.

    [conservatives believed] deficits and the public debt were bad, piled up by free-spending Keynesians and socialists, who absurdly proclaimed that there was nothing wrong or onerous about the public debt. In the famous words of the left-Keynesian apostle of “functional finance,” Professor Abba Lernr, there is nothing wrong with the public debt because “we owe it to ourselves.” In those days, at least, conservatives were astute enough to realize that it made an enormous amount of difference whether – slicing through the obfuscatory collective nouns – one is a member of the “we” (the burdened taxpayer) or of the “ourselves” (those living off the proceeds of taxation).

    -Murray N. Rothbard, Repudiating the National Debt
    October 9, 2013

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/10/murray-n-rothbard/repudiate-the-national-debt-3/

    Copy/paste annoys ‘em too. Probably because they don’t understand how to do it.

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  • @Sparkon
    So far, so good. What do you use, if not facts and logic?

    So far, so good. What do you use, if not facts and logic?

    I’ve learned from them to use mockery. When I get tired of that, I ignore ‘em. That drives ‘em even nuttier.

    I must’ve inherited a few sadistic Zio-genes somewhere along the line even though I’m not aware of any bestiality in the family.

    Hey, that rhymes! ;)

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  • @Cloak And Dagger

    By “your ilk”, I suppose you mean Jews; one fell swoop and an entire people is cast in the shape of a power monolith, evil, cunning, relentless and single-minded over generations in the pursuit of power.
     
    Hardly. "your ilk" refers to the subsection of jews and non-jews (like Chenney) who are apologists for Israel and supportive of neocon/neoliberal control of this country and responsible for much misery and death abroad. The generational pursuit of power refers to Rothschild and the banking cabal's " evil, cunning, relentless and single-minded" acquisition of control over the world's wealth and power. Either through direct participation or through implicit/explicit support, this group has enabled the state of the world today by corrupting the institutions of the world.

    You don’t credit the average American with sufficient understanding of the world they live in. I do. They are perfectly informed, willing, and able to do that which is in their own interest.
     
    No I don't. Why do you? How have we demonstrated this understanding? Are you suggesting that all the conflicts that we are engaged in is a reflection of such comprehension, and is somehow in their interest? Why would I want my hard-earned tax dollars to be spent on wars for Israel instead of fixing the potholes on my roads?

    Also, lighten up on the holocaust rhetoric. The noises are coming chiefly from your direction, and in truth, from a small section of Jewry who would have us not forget what happened.
     
    Rubbish. It may be a small subsection, but it is a powerful one. Hollywood churns out one movie after another at regular intervals bemoaning the horrors of the holocaust and the culpability of the common German. Holocaust museums are exploding across the nation to keep the drumbeat going. It seems that every time Israel is about to do something atrocious, the holocaust gets waved around.

    How many movies have you seen about Hamburg or Dresden? Is there a museum to Stalin's rape and murder across Europe, including that of German women and children? Or, in more modern times, what movies has Hollywood produced about the plight of the Palestinians? You can't have it both ways - provide a one sided narrative that enshrines your team while turning a blind eye to what they have done or are doing. Are you in the camp of people who claim that 9/11 happened because they hate us for our freedom, or is it not more plausible that they struck us for supporting what your pals in Israel are doing in their land?

    You are engaged in an effort to systematically falsify the record of the Wars.
     
    Well that is rich. The "records of the War" are not open to investigation, and incarceration has followed any that have questioned the official narrative in many countries of the world.

    Therefore, you are besmirching the memories of those American soldiers who witnessed the horrors and told of it upon returning home.
     
    Sorry, not buying it without the ability to investigate, after all, your gang is happy to besmirch the memories of an 80-year old "Nazi grandma" who has witnessed an alternate perspective on the truth - except in her case she had to go to jail. You get to expound on your narrative without such risk.

    Quick last question on this subparagraph. What’s wrong with watching the Kardashians? Perfectly good way to pass a half-hour.
     
    Simple, the human brain is like a hard drive with a primary cache and limited storage. The cache can only retain recent data, and if you fill it with the Kardashians, there is no room to contemplate what is happening with this country - a desired outcome of the media. As more of the drive fills up with garbage data, other data has to be pushed out to make room for it.

    Did you back Trump?
     
    Yes, but more because I did not want to see Hillary elected. I did have expectations of him based on his campaign rhetoric to withdraw from wars, promises that he didn't fulfill. His claim of MAGA turned out to be election pablum, and his licking of Israeli ass and continued forays into Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, and the senseless demonization of Iran and Russia continues to disappoint. I was a Ron Paul supporter, but there was no way he was going to get the nomination.

    Consider that. You don’t like Nietzsche, I categorically do.
     
    Interesting, because he didn't like you, despite railing against antisemites.

    Even if his philosophy was not to your taste
     
    Well, that is all that matters to me. His personal life and challenges are uninteresting to me, just as I may be interested in the musical performance of an artist with absolutely no interest in their various eccentricities and scandals.

    The tendency to assign to one’s own group the mantle of moral highmindedness is a particular trait amongst humans.
     
    On this we agree. However, if one doesn't reflect on their action, then this becomes a mere delusion.

    Oh dear heavens, “The Rothschilds!” I hadn’t pinned you for one those….Well perhaps tomorrow. Early flight to St. Louis, another visit to the heartland, I’m happy to say…

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    Oh dear heavens, “The Rothschilds!” I hadn’t pinned you for one those
     
    Yes, relegate me to the dreaded ranks of conspiracy-theorists and tin foil hatted kooks. It is a tried and safe defense.

    Good night and safe travels. I may not be able to respond to you in detail until next weekend except in small blurbs, should you choose to further engage tomorrow, so apologies in advance. I have not yet attained the leisure of the idle rich.

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  • @jilles dykstra
    Baruch was not a zionist

    Baruch was not a zionist

    Prove it, or it’s a lie.

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    Read the books written by himself,
    Bernard M. Baruch, ‘Die Jahre des Dienens’, München 1962 (The public years, New York, 1960)
    Bernard M. Baruch, Gute 88 Jahre, Autobiographie, München 1963 (New York)
    or the biography
    Margaret L. Coit, ‘Mr. Baruch’, Cambridge MA, 1957
    Nowhere any mention of support of zionism.
    Many jews in the USA saw the USA as 'the new zion', therefore were opposed to zionism.
    Though all the anti zionist jewish organisations world wide dissolved themselves after Israel was established in 1948, it was not until 1967 that most jews in the world began to support Israel.
    Even in 1946 Baruch tried to establish a world government.
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  • @Anonymous
    Yes, he's only human and so I don't hold it against him. I called him out on it for the sake of keeping up standards on this fine site!

    As for myself, it’s almost as if I’m asking a shadow government’s deep state to take me out of this futile game. As they’d actually be doing me a favor, saving me the trouble and bad karma that goes along with taking life.

     

    That's unforgivably nihilistic and I hope you don't go the same way as Kurt Cobain. Please trust me when I say that places in the world where you can find life to be as enjoying and fulfilling as it should be. In this respect, when you have nothing to lose, you are greatly advantaged.

    In retrospect, you did Philip Giraldi a favor. I’ll admit it now, he did need a bit of coaching on that one. Unchecked emotion, can be our own worst enemy at times.

    As for my plans, well it’s all about dreams. At least that’s the advice an angel gave me once.

    As one of life’s dreams naturally concludes, it’s vital to construct a new one, and live it out.

    …..

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  • @Sam Shama

    This is evidence of the success of your ilk. Your control of the media and education, as well as the systematic indoctrination of the myth of the holocaust and the fact that the latest with the Kardashians captivates national attention more than the hidden realities of how we are looted and destroyed, is a source of much sorrow.
     
    By "your ilk", I suppose you mean Jews; one fell swoop and an entire people is cast in the shape of a power monolith, evil, cunning, relentless and single-minded over generations in the pursuit of power. In this belief lies your weakness. You don't credit the average American with sufficient understanding of the world they live in. I do. They are perfectly informed, willing, and able to do that which is in their own interest. My ilk, are they. Merely Christian heritage or an atheist one, does not an American make. Therefore a piece of advice: do not assume to know the lives of others you essentially conjure in the confines of your skull. Also, lighten up on the holocaust rhetoric. The noises are coming chiefly from your direction, and in truth, from a small section of Jewry who would have us not forget what happened. I am, through consequence of birth, though none through any particular personal inquiry, close to the history of that event. And I've heard more whinging about the Holocaust from the likes of you than has ever crossed my own lips. Or those of any Jew. You are engaged in an effort to systematically falsify the record of the Wars. Therefore, you are besmirching the memories of those American soldiers who witnessed the horrors and told of it upon returning home. It won't work. While we are on the subject of American lads going to war, I spoke about the very same with a number of my friends/interlocutors - military families - and we shared our common sentiments. Yes, I've had more than a few members of my family who, in the recent and not so recent past, served, two of them maimed for life. Quick last question on this subparagraph. What's wrong with watching the Kardashians? Perfectly good way to pass a half-hour. Don't tell me you spend every free minute reading Virgil. Or Dante, since you invoked the Inferno. [Dante btw was an impish fellow; he didn't mean all he wrote, convinced that in the afterlife he'd enjoy a good guffaw at the expense of us, those who take themselves too seriously]

    Sadly, this is probably true as well. By “throwing ourselves at the machinery”, you must know that I don’t imply acts of suicide (which would be futile anyway), but disruption of the status quo by any means possible – from something as small as blanketing the nation with flyers exposing the truths that the MSM and all the holocaust museums are hiding, to financing electoral challengers that run on the platform of displacing Israel-firsters in our government and institutions of authority.

     

    I didn't think you meant suicide, although there are others I suspect who might. A perfectly valid method in a democracy to back a candidate of your choice. Did you back Trump?

    It may already be too late and there is nothing I or anyone can do to avoid our fate, but human life without hope has no purpose beyond nihilism (and I never liked Nietzsche). It is interesting that for a people who do not believe in an afterlife (and I don’t either), all rewards and retributions must happen solely in this plane of existence. And yet, your team has spent generations inserting yourself into the affairs of others to gain power through chaos and a life less than pleasant, when it is as fleeting as a wisp of wind. Some of us are motivated by a desire to increase the beauty in this world and enhance the greater good. Rousseau posited that virtuosity is an inherent human trait, and that ethical perspective resonates with me. Thus, either Rousseau and I are idiots (not unlikely, at least in my case), or your ilk is not of the human species, at least from a moral datum.
     
    It is not too late for it was never a fate to consider. Consider that. You don't like Nietzsche, I categorically do. Most never understood the man. Even if his philosophy was not to your taste, you may not dismiss nor decenter his evolution from a youthful, inimitable, philologist, to the enlightened [birth of a] tragedist, and finally to the Man who realised we are in need of Superman. Neither you nor Rousseau is an idiot, nor we inhuman. The tendency to assign to one's own group the mantle of moral highmindedness is a particular trait amongst humans. You might listen to Goethe if Nietsczhe doesn't compute: "Behaviour is the mirror in which everyone shows their image"

    By “your ilk”, I suppose you mean Jews; one fell swoop and an entire people is cast in the shape of a power monolith, evil, cunning, relentless and single-minded over generations in the pursuit of power.

    Hardly. “your ilk” refers to the subsection of jews and non-jews (like Chenney) who are apologists for Israel and supportive of neocon/neoliberal control of this country and responsible for much misery and death abroad. The generational pursuit of power refers to Rothschild and the banking cabal’s ” evil, cunning, relentless and single-minded” acquisition of control over the world’s wealth and power. Either through direct participation or through implicit/explicit support, this group has enabled the state of the world today by corrupting the institutions of the world.

    You don’t credit the average American with sufficient understanding of the world they live in. I do. They are perfectly informed, willing, and able to do that which is in their own interest.

    No I don’t. Why do you? How have we demonstrated this understanding? Are you suggesting that all the conflicts that we are engaged in is a reflection of such comprehension, and is somehow in their interest? Why would I want my hard-earned tax dollars to be spent on wars for Israel instead of fixing the potholes on my roads?

    Also, lighten up on the holocaust rhetoric. The noises are coming chiefly from your direction, and in truth, from a small section of Jewry who would have us not forget what happened.

    Rubbish. It may be a small subsection, but it is a powerful one. Hollywood churns out one movie after another at regular intervals bemoaning the horrors of the holocaust and the culpability of the common German. Holocaust museums are exploding across the nation to keep the drumbeat going. It seems that every time Israel is about to do something atrocious, the holocaust gets waved around.

    How many movies have you seen about Hamburg or Dresden? Is there a museum to Stalin’s rape and murder across Europe, including that of German women and children? Or, in more modern times, what movies has Hollywood produced about the plight of the Palestinians? You can’t have it both ways – provide a one sided narrative that enshrines your team while turning a blind eye to what they have done or are doing. Are you in the camp of people who claim that 9/11 happened because they hate us for our freedom, or is it not more plausible that they struck us for supporting what your pals in Israel are doing in their land?

    You are engaged in an effort to systematically falsify the record of the Wars.

    Well that is rich. The “records of the War” are not open to investigation, and incarceration has followed any that have questioned the official narrative in many countries of the world.

    Therefore, you are besmirching the memories of those American soldiers who witnessed the horrors and told of it upon returning home.

    Sorry, not buying it without the ability to investigate, after all, your gang is happy to besmirch the memories of an 80-year old “Nazi grandma” who has witnessed an alternate perspective on the truth – except in her case she had to go to jail. You get to expound on your narrative without such risk.

    Quick last question on this subparagraph. What’s wrong with watching the Kardashians? Perfectly good way to pass a half-hour.

    Simple, the human brain is like a hard drive with a primary cache and limited storage. The cache can only retain recent data, and if you fill it with the Kardashians, there is no room to contemplate what is happening with this country – a desired outcome of the media. As more of the drive fills up with garbage data, other data has to be pushed out to make room for it.

    Did you back Trump?

    Yes, but more because I did not want to see Hillary elected. I did have expectations of him based on his campaign rhetoric to withdraw from wars, promises that he didn’t fulfill. His claim of MAGA turned out to be election pablum, and his licking of Israeli ass and continued forays into Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, and the senseless demonization of Iran and Russia continues to disappoint. I was a Ron Paul supporter, but there was no way he was going to get the nomination.

    Consider that. You don’t like Nietzsche, I categorically do.

    Interesting, because he didn’t like you, despite railing against antisemites.

    Even if his philosophy was not to your taste

    Well, that is all that matters to me. His personal life and challenges are uninteresting to me, just as I may be interested in the musical performance of an artist with absolutely no interest in their various eccentricities and scandals.

    The tendency to assign to one’s own group the mantle of moral highmindedness is a particular trait amongst humans.

    On this we agree. However, if one doesn’t reflect on their action, then this becomes a mere delusion.

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    Oh dear heavens, "The Rothschilds!" I hadn't pinned you for one those....Well perhaps tomorrow. Early flight to St. Louis, another visit to the heartland, I'm happy to say...

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  • @geokat62

    So many rabbit holes. Logical fallacies are such a waste.
     
    So, to undercut the musings of AJ Taylor you quote the great Stephen Cooper? I have to admit, the first thought that came to my mind was who is this Stephen Cooper? Is he such an acclaimed authority on WWII that his words can put to shame those of AJ Taylor's. So, I decided to do a little search and discovered the great Stephen Copper is one of five people to review Taylor's magnum opus on Amazon.

    I clicked on Stephen's name to get more info on him. Here's what is provided:

    About
    South Yorkshire, England
    I enjoy writing, both reviews and my own articles for History Today and books, the latest of which is Cocos Island and the Treasure of Lima (2017, Create Space, USA)
    Reviewer ranking
    #4,215

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Origins-Second-World-War/product-reviews/B000O6MJT0?pageNumber=7
     
    NB - did you notice that impressive reviewer ranking? Not quite the towering authority as an AJ Taylor, is he?

    ... reminds me of your call for a “really, really big march on DC.” Turned out to be too daunting. Way too few people with your particular priorities. Building a movement way too difficult. So, just talk.
     
    While initially skeptical, didn't you eventually warm up to the idea, especially after Phil endorsed it?

    I still think, however, if Trump does Adelson's bidding and decides the remove enemy #7 on AIPAC's hit list, a mass protest may have some merit. But, hey, what do I know? I'm just a crazy Canuck who has peculiar priorities. Better to push a bought and paid for congress to co-sponsor bills to halt US arms supplies to Syria, I guess.

    It is quite true and doesn’t require a towering status to observe that Taylor, a bit late in life, discovered a taste for Lafite verticals, which but for the small matter of funds would not have prompted his descent to controversy and the delicious ascent of his book sales.

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  • @Sparkon
    It may have escaped your attention, but it is not I who is playing the role of gatekeeper.

    never mind. at least it made it to the right thread.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @wayfarer
    It's easy for people to take cheap shots, when they're not face-to-face.

    Philip Giraldi is only human, and fury emerges as an emotion within all of us from time to time.

    I understand and respect “practical considerations,” when calculating risk-to-reward ratios.

    As for myself, it's almost as if I'm asking a shadow government's deep state to take me out of this futile game. As they'd actually be doing me a favor, saving me the trouble and bad karma that goes along with taking life.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Dn98SMAvo

    Yes, he’s only human and so I don’t hold it against him. I called him out on it for the sake of keeping up standards on this fine site!

    As for myself, it’s almost as if I’m asking a shadow government’s deep state to take me out of this futile game. As they’d actually be doing me a favor, saving me the trouble and bad karma that goes along with taking life.

    That’s unforgivably nihilistic and I hope you don’t go the same way as Kurt Cobain. Please trust me when I say that places in the world where you can find life to be as enjoying and fulfilling as it should be. In this respect, when you have nothing to lose, you are greatly advantaged.

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    In retrospect, you did Philip Giraldi a favor. I'll admit it now, he did need a bit of coaching on that one. Unchecked emotion, can be our own worst enemy at times.

    As for my plans, well it's all about dreams. At least that's the advice an angel gave me once.

    As one of life's dreams naturally concludes, it's vital to construct a new one, and live it out.

    http://thepamliconews.com/image/121440077_scaled_295x251.png

    .....
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  • @RobinG
    So many rabbit holes. Logical fallacies are such a waste.

    "...here was Taylor, ["Origins of the Second World War"] calmly explaining that Hitler did want to make Germany great again, and was not averse to war, but that he had not actually planned the war. Despite the clearly stated agenda in `Mein Kampf', he stumbled into it in 1939, almost by accident.

    The fundamental objection to this thesis, as A.L.Rowse wrote in `Historians I have Known' (1995), is that it is perfectly possible to be an opportunist and a planner at the same time; and it is pretty obvious, looking at the history of the Third Reich as a whole, that Hitler was indeed both. Taylor was an intelligent man and not naive; and he must have known this. He pretended otherwise, knowing that this enabled him to make statements which would outrage both his many opponents and the man in the street. His book would sell better that way - and it did."

    Stephen Cooper
     
    C&D advocating throwing oneself into the machine reminds me of your call for a "really, really big march on DC." Turned out to be too daunting. Way too few people with your particular priorities. Building a movement way too difficult. So, just talk.

    So many rabbit holes. Logical fallacies are such a waste.

    So, to undercut the musings of AJ Taylor you quote the great Stephen Cooper? I have to admit, the first thought that came to my mind was who is this Stephen Cooper? Is he such an acclaimed authority on WWII that his words can put to shame those of AJ Taylor’s. So, I decided to do a little search and discovered the great Stephen Copper is one of five people to review Taylor’s magnum opus on Amazon.

    I clicked on Stephen’s name to get more info on him. Here’s what is provided:

    About
    South Yorkshire, England
    I enjoy writing, both reviews and my own articles for History Today and books, the latest of which is Cocos Island and the Treasure of Lima (2017, Create Space, USA)
    Reviewer ranking
    #4,215

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Origins-Second-World-War/product-reviews/B000O6MJT0?pageNumber=7

    NB – did you notice that impressive reviewer ranking? Not quite the towering authority as an AJ Taylor, is he?

    … reminds me of your call for a “really, really big march on DC.” Turned out to be too daunting. Way too few people with your particular priorities. Building a movement way too difficult. So, just talk.

    While initially skeptical, didn’t you eventually warm up to the idea, especially after Phil endorsed it?

    I still think, however, if Trump does Adelson’s bidding and decides the remove enemy #7 on AIPAC’s hit list, a mass protest may have some merit. But, hey, what do I know? I’m just a crazy Canuck who has peculiar priorities. Better to push a bought and paid for congress to co-sponsor bills to halt US arms supplies to Syria, I guess.

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    It is quite true and doesn't require a towering status to observe that Taylor, a bit late in life, discovered a taste for Lafite verticals, which but for the small matter of funds would not have prompted his descent to controversy and the delicious ascent of his book sales.
    , @RobinG
    Too bad there was that much on Stephen Cooper. What difference does it make who he is? Who are you, anyway? It was apparent 2 years ago that you didn't realize I was gently mocking when I asked if you wanted jumbo-trons on the Mall. No, I never thought a "big march" was a good idea. That's because I knew you didn't have a prayer. If you'd tried, I would have supported you (on the keyboard), that's all.

    Phil's key point, which you ignore, is his change of strategy.

    I used to believe that educating the American public about what is really going on in the Middle East would bring about a change in policy. I don’t believe it any longer because Jews control the media and the message.
    ..... as soon as Jewish American liberals get on board and convince themselves that they cannot stand any more of the lying about Israel change will come. It is all about Jewish power in America, but this time as a potential positive force.
     
    You, S2, et al, insist on relegating yourselves to the most extreme corner, from which you are least likely to broker any alliances. Your poll questions are irrelevant. There's a world of difference between saying we shouldn't give Israel so much support, and asserting that Jews started the world wars and there wasn't a holocaust.
    , @Hubbard

    So, to undercut the musings of AJ Taylor you quote the great Stephen Cooper?
     
    So RobinG turns out to be a Hasbara Troll.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6d9zph

    Think Peace - Paul!
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  • @geokat62

    As I travel these United States, I speak to people in the heartland, of matters which trouble and concern them. Never have I encountered anything vaguely resembling that which you incessantly recount here. Mostly, the concerns are of healthcare costs, college costs and lamentations about the loss of a way of life that used to prevail in the days past. Overwhelmingly, these people are a hearty lot, pleasant and deeply patriotic.
     
    In your travels in the heartland, Sam, did the good people of America raise the issue of The Lobby and how it has diverted over $6 trillion to remake the MENA in the phony GWOT which actually makes them less safe to ensure the people of the Jewish state are more safe? If they didn't, did you reveal to them that you and your coreligionists make automatic monthly payments to fund The Lobby to undertake a program that diverts $6 trillion from healthcare costs, college costs, and infrastructure projects and, instead, directs it toward enhancing the security of the villa in the jungle?

    ... and lamentations about the loss of a way of life that used to prevail in the days past.
     
    Did you mention to them that the Franfurt School was responsible for undermining the pillars of their society (the family, the church, the media, the political institutions) so that fascism never again rears its ugly head in a country that was deemed to be too barbaric and therefore, antisemitic? And that The Lobby was responsible for flinging open the floodgates to mass immigration by pushing for almost 100 years for the passage of Celler-Hart in 1965?

    They know what is good and what isn’t for America. Nazism would find any purchase with them.
     
    Did you base this assessment on the fact that the American people have unfettered access to the truth, furnished by the Luggenpresse of Weimerica? Did they tell you that Putin is another Hilter, since the LOW is pumping out the lies non-stop about Russia-gate? Did you inform them that the Zionist media is responsible for portraying Putin as a villain, as Russia is a sponsor of the Shia Crescent, because it is allies with the Jewish state's arch enemies, Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah? Did any of these things come up in your conversations with these patriotic people? I didn't think so.

    Did you mention to them that the Franfurt School was responsible for undermining the pillars of their society (the family, the church, the media, the political institutions) so that fascism never again rears its ugly head in a country …..

    I think Iffen answered this post in greater depth so that I confine myself here, to two observations, the first concerning the “Frankfurt School” which happens not to be any great interest of mine, and even less so of the people of the heartland. Frankfurters perhaps, not so much the former. The second item had me scratching my head, which upon a re-read assuaged my concerns. One might be forgiven for thinking that you suggest the family and church were responsible for Fascism, but of course, you indicted the blighted Frankfurt School.

    I’ll be sure to inform them of it, during my next trip to Frankfurt.

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  • @geokat62

    Ask the specific question, “Do we need to support Israel politically and economically?” and you will get a resounding, yes!
     
    More like a resounding, no!

    Key polling results recently conducted by WRMEA, American Public Opinion About U.S. Aid to Israel and Other Top AIPAC Programs:

    1. When informed of its relative size, 60 percent of Americans believe that U.S. foreign aid to Israel is either much too much or too much.


    2. When we polled this right after the MOU signing, the public responded—60 percent of them—that they had higher priorities. When questioned if the $38 billion was a good investment, 60 percent said health care for U.S. veterans, education, and paying down the national debt would be far better expenditures. Only 17 percent thought it should be spent on Israel.


    3. Americans, when told and asked, Israel and its U.S. lobby are the only parties making such a demand in a question—“Israel and its U.S. lobby want a no-daylight policy, the president never criticizing Israeli settlements and giving Israel billions in aid and diplomatic support at the U.N.”—most say, 56 percent say, the majority say, there should not be a no-daylight policy.


    4. I think this is the most important survey question, because it gets to the heart of the entire mechanism by which the Israel lobby has accumulated so much influence—campaign contributions. So here it is. That system ranges from seed funding of political candidates to funding through coordinated stealth political action committees, bundled campaign contributions, and pro-Israel mega donors... Seventy-one percent of Americans do not support this system...

    So, in conclusion, solid majorities of Americans polled, when using accurate survey technology, believe that U.S. foreign aid to Israel is too much. They don’t really even approve of the means by which they’re won, and the funds and the U.S. unilateral commitments that are made to execute. However, this is a passive majority. None of these opinions and views has recently been, with few exceptions, translated into direct action by their members of Congress.

    https://www.wrmea.org/2017-may/grant-smith-american-public-opinion-about-u.s.-aid-to-israel-and-other-top-aipac-programs.html
     

    Read the election returns and weep.

    Wipe your ass with your poll results.

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