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    The Chinese sure can be exasperating. Paul Midler writes in his new book What’s Wrong with China: (Laowai is the common—informal, non-hostile—Chinese term for a foreigner, equivalent to Japanese gaijin. Pronunciation here. During my own China days in the early 1980s the usual expat term for the syndrome under discus
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    history is often written by liars like you, so maybe i am historically iliterate, and proudly so. gmd forces were serious in running from the japanese. gmd will fight ONLY against those who were defenseless. as fraudulent as history is, they have documented the atrocities comited NOT ONLY on the mainland, but also your beloved TW. you see, this isnt a left/right problem. both the left, and the right acknowledge that the gmd comited atrocities. but you know whats funny is you bullies lost against a bunch of farmers in sandals. on yea, the comunists lost jinmen, but the gmd lost EVERYWHERE else. whats worse is that the gmd was armed, and backed by the us inperialists, with modern weapons, yet you still lost. with an army like that, i'd say that it's a shame to be a general of such an army. sad, how you even have the balls to mention it on here. and even after you got defeated badly on the mainland, your thug army tried numerous times in conjunction with the amerikan inperialists to retake the mainland. all failed attempts of course. the failures MUST be because they had incomptent generals like your grandfather, and YOUR own personal failures must be a direct inheritance from your parasitical grandfather. losers spawning little losers, makes sense to me. tell me, what does it feel like to be a loser? and an outcast. thats why your family ran to the us. like i said before, even tw despises the gmd, and after running into you, we can all see why. where you gonna run to next when the white amerikan nationalists boot you out? and beleive me, they will boot you out. amerika is heading in a very nationalist direction, and if i were a white nationalist, youd be perfect for my chop suey. i think hell may be your last option.

    and hows this for history. you can tell alot about a party based on activities theyre involved in. now since your grandfather was a general, he was probably involved in peddling dope. have him tell you about how he was dealing dope out of myanmar. the golden triangle was/is one of the biggest drug trades in the world, and the gmd is behind it. face it, theyre criminal through and through, and the only place people like you belong is behind bars getting but raped.

    well, i cant say im surprised that this isnt your real name.... there isnt much thats real about you, but the advice still stands. change your name to rhodes. name yourself after your inperialist masters. maybe they'll give you a little biscuit for being the dog that you are.

    haha. outcast to the comunist party? there hasnt been a comunist party in 40yrs. deng/ye were the outcasts. im sure even a phony like you knows that. im sure you remember deng/ye, they were phonys like you who joined the comunist party, but wanted to carry out kapitalist policies. speaking of outcasts, im sure you know all about being an outcast in amerika, and thats precisely what you are. isnt it sad that reactionary far right lunatics like you are so greedy that youre willing to go to a country that hates you, and looks down on you. you and your family have no self respect. it's no wonder why nobody else respects you either. you were hated on the mainland, hated on tw, and now hated in amerika, just like the rodent that you are.

    you confirm that the gmd were indeed sell outs, because sell outs always end up in amerika. stop insulting everyones intelligence by claiming to be fighting for the japanese. no one believes it, not me, and not your inperialist masters. personal gains is all that you care about, and thats why the inperialists hired the gmd in the 1st place. they know youre greedy, and they know youre selfish. remember that chump.

    Whereas for KMT vs Communist Mao, i can’t give fair judgement consider so much Western propaganda smearing. You & Daniel have better understanding.

    According to wikipedia, KMT had adopted Germans help to re-industrialization & militarization before Jp invasion. Gen Zhang Xueliang was said to have forced KMT Gen Jiang JS to defend Shanghai together with Comm using its best German trained army against its German advisor advice.

    If KMT will to win the struggle and rule China, with Jiang JS & Song QL close acquaintance with US & Soviet factor, China could have developed to unimaginable level by now. What Jp can achieved after ww2, China certainly can do better. It may likely bcom another evil corrupted empire like US filled with greed, but a few times bigger, and all christianized.

    Life is full of uncertainty, every turn can change entire life, but death is certained for everyone. Another few tens years all will be perished, another new generation appear, what’s there to cling on & whine so much about KMT & Deng’s mistake when Deng policy has elevated billion of Chinese from poverty?

    Look forwards, wish China can be successful to bring about peace & prosperity to this chaotic world. The only hope for mankind. Internal bickering don’t help to bring out a better China & world. As China reach a threshold of development(20yrs at most), Taiwan will naturally rejoin its long lost motherland for a better future.

    You bet, Tibetans & Xinjiang are now laughing at their sky fallen fortune to be connected to China. Mongolia will want claim its historical ties soon, so are other lost territories & overseas Chinese diaspora. Even Oz will want to say since Zhenghe visited it & its located in Asia, it should be considered part of China domain. Chinese old saying: “Has milk is mother.”

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  • TT says:
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    the kultural revalution stands correct. you notice when those targeted during the kultural revalution regained their power, they led china down a road of disaster, and humiliation that continues til this day. the coruption, polution, and crime came. which proves that the kultural revalution was corect, and those targeted were indeed the true criminals. actually, i heard from a chinese guy that his thermos got stolen the day that deng seized power. before that, there werent any thieves. factory workers were their own masters throughout the comunist era, and it was only until your precious reforms that the workers, and peasants became reenslaved again. you also notice that a large % of high profile anti chinese cliques outside of china were also targets of the kultural revalution, just like you suposedly claim to be. this indicates that the so called "victims" of the kultral revalution are and were the sell outs who continue to sell out china just like gorbachev did the ussr. and sell outs like you wont stop until china is split up into 20 countries. the fact of the matter is, china wouldnt be in such a sad state if it werent for these sell outs like "daniel". you see he is so much of a sell out, the guy has to use a christian name. how pathetic. stop trying to impress your inperialist master for just one minute, and just be yourself boy. are you right wingers capable of being genuine even for just one moment? youve been kowtowing to your inperialist masters for 40yrs straight, and where has that gotten you?

    read this, my little 50 cent man, and please reflect on your own stupidity.

    China uses its markets to get what it wants, but this doesn't work. When China first became kapitalist in 1978, China thought it could neutralize the world with its markets. The logic behind this is, if foreigners are allowed to make money in China, foreigners would not attack China the way that foreigners were attacking China all through the history of the PRC. Deng was wrong. Only 11 yrs after China went kapitalist, the west tried to overthrow Deng. So, what does this tell you? It should tell you that giving markets to the west will not neurtralize them, or satisfy them. You can't use money to buy them out. The only way out is by defeating them.

    Despite the obvious flaws in Deng/Ye's policies, and ideas, they went with this throughout the 80s, and 90s. Even today, they use this idea of trying to buy influence with their markets. The one belt one road initiative highlights this point exactly. You look at one belt one road, and you can see that the primary objective of this plan is to allow foreign countries to make money off of China. They want to set up a platform that makes it easier for foreigners to import their products INTO China, and not the other way around. You look at a country like the Czech republic. How much Chinese products could they possibly buy from China? Whatever they can give China, it would be peanuts compared to how much the Czech republic can make off of China.

    Deng's gang used this policy with Hongers, Taiwanese, Japanese, Singaporians, and south Koreans. They allowed for foreigners to make trillions off of China's exploitation. Even Xi's rejim has repeately said, we have such a huge market, don't you want a piece of it? That's their catch phrase, and it's how they hope to lure foreigners in. Compare this with the US and west's policy of "disobey me, and I will beat you senseless".

    Just like using markets to buy influence didn't work with American, neither did it work with the Hongers, Taiwanese, Japanese, Singaporians, and south Koreans.

    Hongers are given access to the mainland markets. They run many companies in the mainland. They are also given access to the mainland's entertainment market where many of HK's unentertaining actors, and singers are given a platform to rake in billions. However, today's Hong Kong is more anti Chinese than ever before in history. Mainlanders are getting beaten and bullied in public all throughout the city. They even had a year long protest directed at the central goverment. The most ironic thing about the revisionist move to use markets to buy influence is, in 1967, Hongers started riots that were pro Chinese in nature, and anti British. However, fast fwd 40yrs after Dengism, and Hongers are now rioting against China on behalf of the west. Isn't that ironic? The Dengists believed that giving Hongers markets would buy sympathy from Hongers, but it did the opposite.

    Billions in concesions have been given to Taiwan. Like Hong Kong, the mainland also gave a huge concesion to TW's "entertainment industry". The mainland buys many products from Taiwan that the mainland can make themselves. The mainland allows Taiwan to exploit the mainland workers, and open factories. The mainland sends millions of tourists to Taiwan each year. And where has this gotten the mainland? Nowhere. Like Hong Kong, the Taiwanese are arguably more anti Chinese today than they were 40 years ago. To give you an idea on how anti Chinese Taiwan has become, in Taiwan's university campuses, mainland students are marginalized, and avoided like the plague. The separatist movement in the province has gotten so big that many of both sides of the strait are talking about a military confrontation. Some even say that the mainland's military build up is precisely preparing for such a confrontation.

    Japan makes tons of money off of China. They are the top selling cameras, cars, and many electronic devices. Millions of Chinese tourists also go to Japan. The Chinese goverment uses Japanese cameras. Walk on any Chinese street, and you will see Japanese cars. Thousands of Japanese restraunts are scattered throughout China, raking in billions in profits. So where does that get China? You guessed it. Nowhere. Not only are Japanese anti Chinese, but the Japanese goverment has come out, and publicly challenged China. For the past few years, Japan has been fighting China for the Diaoyu islands, islands that are rich in natural resources. The Japanese air force also reguarly menaces the PLA. Japan is also a major backer of anti Chinese forces on Taiwan. Japan has also conspired with India on numerous platforms against China. Before Duterte came to power, Japan was regularly instigating trouble between China, and the Philipines. Japan even gave weapons to Aquino in order to iritate China, because at the time, the west was counting on the Philipines to confront China. Now that Aquino is out of the picture, Japan is still up to its old tricks in instigating trouble between China, and Vietnam.

    Like the others Singapore, although a country the size of a booger, makes a killing in China. For those who don't know, Singapore has a long history of pro inperialist politics, but they are also very dear friends to the revisionist Chinese rejim. This is why they operate numerous companies, malls, and food courts in China. Singapore is also a major investor in Xiaomi, and makes billions off of Xiaomi alone. And how does Singapore pay China back? They publicly denounce China, and insist that the south China sea belongs to the Philipines, and NOT China. Yes, this is how Singapore pays China back. Singapore also regularly hosts military exercises with the US directed AGAINST China. Singapore has gone so far in their anti Chinese stunts that it actually iritated some Chinese politicians, and prompted the building of an alternative port (to Singapore) based in Malaysia.

    Last but not least, south Korea is also another properous parasite. For many years, Chinese taxis exclusively bought and used Hyundai vehicles, allowing south Korea to make billions off of this deal alone. This on top of south Korea's ability to make billions more off of China's entertainment industry. China allowed south Korean "actors and singers" to perform in China, pulling in billions. South Korea was given many benefits by the Chinese goverment, but despite this, south Korea still stabbed China in the back. The most obvious example of this is south Korea's decision to install the Thad weapon system, a weapon system that is directed against China. Not only this, south Korea also regularly sponsors activities to cause trouble in the Korean peninsula, often times by provoking north Korea. The south Korean rejim is also responsible for hosting many US military drills, and exercises aimed at destabilizing China.

    People don't understand that influence comes from the barel of a gun, not through markets. You can give all the markets in the world to people, but without a strong fist to back up your policies, it will never amount to anything. America doesn't influence the world through markets, neither did the British before them. This is why the US maintains hundreds of bases across the world, and regularly conducts menacing military exercises aimed to intimidate countries like China. It is only through a strong offensive that the US, and west is able to maintain their influence throughout the world. If you look at Europe, they hardly buy anything from Taiwan. Not only that, Taiwan actually buys tons from Europe, but it can be argued that Europe have more influence in Taiwan than Mainland China despite all the things the mainland buys from Taiwan. I'm assuming that it's because Europe has a much more offensive strategy, and character. The world's leader understands that if you offend the US or Europe, they will back opposition movements right up to your front door just like the kinds you saw in Libya, and the Ukraine. It's these kinds of stunts that really highlight western power. This is something that markets alone can control. Foreigners run no such risks by offending China. This is why rejims turn against China, time and time again.

    i’m assuming that it’s because Europe has a much more offensive strategy, and character. The world’s leader understands that if you offend the US or Europe, they will back opposition movements right up to your front door just like the kinds you saw in Libya, and the Ukraine. It’s these kinds of stunts that really highlight western power. This is something that markets alone can control. Foreigners run no such risks by offending China. This is why rejims turn against China, time and time again.

    Do you want China to take that same foolish empire path? Chinese has better wisdom over 5,000yrs.

    Precisely bcos of this evil empires, all China allies are subverted by FukusIndiaJp. These allies turn anti-China nonsense can only stop when China can counter-FukusIndiaJp to protect its allies, which China has juz did for Philippines(US ISIS attack), Nepal(India oil embargo) & Mauritius(US India military threat & regime change).

    Spore has proven itself under Lee Kuang Yew since China open up, by providing every helps it could. Lee Kuang Yew was a extraordinary stateman that could balance geopolitical power. But Lee HL is simply there through nepotism, unable to resist Fukus manipulation.

    Look at SK ex-Pres Park, she is now in 30yrs prison term for been pro-China & refusing to install Thaad. Can new SK Pres resist US? You bet, Thaad is up immediately.

    HK is instigated for independent by Fukus, CIA is in full force. So is Taiwan, US & Jp hands are all deep inside, brainwashing them for last 50yrs with frightening false Tiananmen massacre of students propaganda. Who you gonna blame for Tibet & Xinjiang secession drive, Deng?

    Every single country that are pro-China or helpful for China progress(BRI nodes) are all under attacked or regime change now. Entire Asean, Asia, Oz, Nz, Latin America, Africa, Brazil, Pak, Nepal, Mauritius, Mongolia, Malaysia, Thailand…. either change leader by corrupted judge, or color revolution, or election meddling or coup. If all failed, then its sanction & direct invasion like Libya, Syria, NK, Myanmar…

    So stop whining, and blame FukusIndiaJp sabotage on your own greatest leader Deng foolishly. China leaders have done an excellent Hercules job to transform poor China under enormous West sabotage to what it is today, a stellar powerful country that the world look up for hope to prosperity & peace.

    And PLA is going through unprecedented modernization to defend China interest spreading globally, including its allies too. All these required huge economy to support.

    China think tank is better than you can imagine, they see the entire geopolitical situation as a whole & are rolling out strategies in multi complex phases. One big bang move will be Petrol-Yuan, this will be a Domino effect to dismantle US evil empire prop up by unlimited Petrol dollars printing, without risking a devastating nuclear war.

    If you unable to understand SunTze Arts of War, at least see the result. The world is in a mess, only China & Russia are progressing in stability & working towards de-clawing of the evil empires.

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    history is often written by liars like you, so maybe i am historically iliterate, and proudly so. gmd forces were serious in running from the japanese. gmd will fight ONLY against those who were defenseless. as fraudulent as history is, they have documented the atrocities comited NOT ONLY on the mainland, but also your beloved TW. you see, this isnt a left/right problem. both the left, and the right acknowledge that the gmd comited atrocities. but you know whats funny is you bullies lost against a bunch of farmers in sandals. on yea, the comunists lost jinmen, but the gmd lost EVERYWHERE else. whats worse is that the gmd was armed, and backed by the us inperialists, with modern weapons, yet you still lost. with an army like that, i'd say that it's a shame to be a general of such an army. sad, how you even have the balls to mention it on here. and even after you got defeated badly on the mainland, your thug army tried numerous times in conjunction with the amerikan inperialists to retake the mainland. all failed attempts of course. the failures MUST be because they had incomptent generals like your grandfather, and YOUR own personal failures must be a direct inheritance from your parasitical grandfather. losers spawning little losers, makes sense to me. tell me, what does it feel like to be a loser? and an outcast. thats why your family ran to the us. like i said before, even tw despises the gmd, and after running into you, we can all see why. where you gonna run to next when the white amerikan nationalists boot you out? and beleive me, they will boot you out. amerika is heading in a very nationalist direction, and if i were a white nationalist, youd be perfect for my chop suey. i think hell may be your last option.

    and hows this for history. you can tell alot about a party based on activities theyre involved in. now since your grandfather was a general, he was probably involved in peddling dope. have him tell you about how he was dealing dope out of myanmar. the golden triangle was/is one of the biggest drug trades in the world, and the gmd is behind it. face it, theyre criminal through and through, and the only place people like you belong is behind bars getting but raped.

    well, i cant say im surprised that this isnt your real name.... there isnt much thats real about you, but the advice still stands. change your name to rhodes. name yourself after your inperialist masters. maybe they'll give you a little biscuit for being the dog that you are.

    haha. outcast to the comunist party? there hasnt been a comunist party in 40yrs. deng/ye were the outcasts. im sure even a phony like you knows that. im sure you remember deng/ye, they were phonys like you who joined the comunist party, but wanted to carry out kapitalist policies. speaking of outcasts, im sure you know all about being an outcast in amerika, and thats precisely what you are. isnt it sad that reactionary far right lunatics like you are so greedy that youre willing to go to a country that hates you, and looks down on you. you and your family have no self respect. it's no wonder why nobody else respects you either. you were hated on the mainland, hated on tw, and now hated in amerika, just like the rodent that you are.

    you confirm that the gmd were indeed sell outs, because sell outs always end up in amerika. stop insulting everyones intelligence by claiming to be fighting for the japanese. no one believes it, not me, and not your inperialist masters. personal gains is all that you care about, and thats why the inperialists hired the gmd in the 1st place. they know youre greedy, and they know youre selfish. remember that chump.

    Deng understood well, a weak China like Qing Dynasty has no future of peace, but shall subject to another humiliating opium war.

    Look at those countries like NK, Cuba.. yes they probably enjoy what you wish, a central planning economy where everyone live simple, peaceful, few crimes, morally upright, with social security like free schooling & medical.

    But will the West empires vultures permit them to live in peace? Without China protection, NK will be in sanction hardship or get invaded. Cuba, Venezuela, Iran are still under constant threats & subversion. Many countries like Myanmar, Cambodia, Sukarno’s Indonesia, Libya, Syria, ..are examples.

    So to have real communism benefits, China needs to be powerful enough to resist foreign aggression while able to protect its borders like SCS & against FukusIndia invasion. Without strong economy as backbone, what’s there for modernizing military?

    Deng had good foresight to make China strong & prosperous through socialism-capitalism first. Only when reaches a threshold, and the world has rid off US evil empire, then China can start to roll out its own version of Socialism-Confucianism-Buddhism for a truly peaceful, prosperous, self sufficient, strong country with high morality people. Pres Xi has already working on that, a China dream with a common prosperous destiny for mankind.

    In reality, communism is destined for failure not bcos its not perfect, but a perfect idealism required perfect holy people to run it. Yet we know rare is Buddhist Ariyan or Confucianism saint, plentiful are greedy imperfect crooks that will lead the communism, that’s a great disaster awaiting for mankind that history has proven.

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  • @ve1
    history is often written by liars like you, so maybe i am historically iliterate, and proudly so. gmd forces were serious in running from the japanese. gmd will fight ONLY against those who were defenseless. as fraudulent as history is, they have documented the atrocities comited NOT ONLY on the mainland, but also your beloved TW. you see, this isnt a left/right problem. both the left, and the right acknowledge that the gmd comited atrocities. but you know whats funny is you bullies lost against a bunch of farmers in sandals. on yea, the comunists lost jinmen, but the gmd lost EVERYWHERE else. whats worse is that the gmd was armed, and backed by the us inperialists, with modern weapons, yet you still lost. with an army like that, i'd say that it's a shame to be a general of such an army. sad, how you even have the balls to mention it on here. and even after you got defeated badly on the mainland, your thug army tried numerous times in conjunction with the amerikan inperialists to retake the mainland. all failed attempts of course. the failures MUST be because they had incomptent generals like your grandfather, and YOUR own personal failures must be a direct inheritance from your parasitical grandfather. losers spawning little losers, makes sense to me. tell me, what does it feel like to be a loser? and an outcast. thats why your family ran to the us. like i said before, even tw despises the gmd, and after running into you, we can all see why. where you gonna run to next when the white amerikan nationalists boot you out? and beleive me, they will boot you out. amerika is heading in a very nationalist direction, and if i were a white nationalist, youd be perfect for my chop suey. i think hell may be your last option.

    and hows this for history. you can tell alot about a party based on activities theyre involved in. now since your grandfather was a general, he was probably involved in peddling dope. have him tell you about how he was dealing dope out of myanmar. the golden triangle was/is one of the biggest drug trades in the world, and the gmd is behind it. face it, theyre criminal through and through, and the only place people like you belong is behind bars getting but raped.

    well, i cant say im surprised that this isnt your real name.... there isnt much thats real about you, but the advice still stands. change your name to rhodes. name yourself after your inperialist masters. maybe they'll give you a little biscuit for being the dog that you are.

    haha. outcast to the comunist party? there hasnt been a comunist party in 40yrs. deng/ye were the outcasts. im sure even a phony like you knows that. im sure you remember deng/ye, they were phonys like you who joined the comunist party, but wanted to carry out kapitalist policies. speaking of outcasts, im sure you know all about being an outcast in amerika, and thats precisely what you are. isnt it sad that reactionary far right lunatics like you are so greedy that youre willing to go to a country that hates you, and looks down on you. you and your family have no self respect. it's no wonder why nobody else respects you either. you were hated on the mainland, hated on tw, and now hated in amerika, just like the rodent that you are.

    you confirm that the gmd were indeed sell outs, because sell outs always end up in amerika. stop insulting everyones intelligence by claiming to be fighting for the japanese. no one believes it, not me, and not your inperialist masters. personal gains is all that you care about, and thats why the inperialists hired the gmd in the 1st place. they know youre greedy, and they know youre selfish. remember that chump.

    haha. outcast to the comunist party? there hasnt been a comunist party in 40yrs. deng/ye were the outcasts. im sure even a phony like you knows that. im sure you remember deng/ye, they were phonys like you who joined the comunist party, but wanted to carry out kapitalist policie…

    Oh yeah, speaking of losers, you would know quite well, wouldn’t you? Welcome to future of the world that doesn’t need you or the rest of your commies. Deng knew that, too.

    So, you old red bandit…

    Hurry up and die. Mao needs your company in Hell. I hope all of the children that you starved to death get to torment you for the rest of eternity.

    Ponder which philosophy actually won, and helped more people in the end while you’re there.

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  • history is often written by liars like you, so maybe i am historically iliterate, and proudly so. gmd forces were serious in running from the japanese. gmd will fight ONLY against those who were defenseless. as fraudulent as history is, they have documented the atrocities comited NOT ONLY on the mainland, but also your beloved TW. you see, this isnt a left/right problem. both the left, and the right acknowledge that the gmd comited atrocities. but you know whats funny is you bullies lost against a bunch of farmers in sandals. on yea, the comunists lost jinmen, but the gmd lost EVERYWHERE else. whats worse is that the gmd was armed, and backed by the us inperialists, with modern weapons, yet you still lost. with an army like that, i’d say that it’s a shame to be a general of such an army. sad, how you even have the balls to mention it on here. and even after you got defeated badly on the mainland, your thug army tried numerous times in conjunction with the amerikan inperialists to retake the mainland. all failed attempts of course. the failures MUST be because they had incomptent generals like your grandfather, and YOUR own personal failures must be a direct inheritance from your parasitical grandfather. losers spawning little losers, makes sense to me. tell me, what does it feel like to be a loser? and an outcast. thats why your family ran to the us. like i said before, even tw despises the gmd, and after running into you, we can all see why. where you gonna run to next when the white amerikan nationalists boot you out? and beleive me, they will boot you out. amerika is heading in a very nationalist direction, and if i were a white nationalist, youd be perfect for my chop suey. i think hell may be your last option.

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    and hows this for history. you can tell alot about a party based on activities theyre involved in. now since your grandfather was a general, he was probably involved in peddling dope. have him tell you about how he was dealing dope out of myanmar. the golden triangle was/is one of the biggest drug trades in the world, and the gmd is behind it. face it, theyre criminal through and through, and the only place people like you belong is behind bars getting but raped.

    well, i cant say im surprised that this isnt your real name…. there isnt much thats real about you, but the advice still stands. change your name to rhodes. name yourself after your inperialist masters. maybe they’ll give you a little biscuit for being the dog that you are.

    haha. outcast to the comunist party? there hasnt been a comunist party in 40yrs. deng/ye were the outcasts. im sure even a phony like you knows that. im sure you remember deng/ye, they were phonys like you who joined the comunist party, but wanted to carry out kapitalist policies. speaking of outcasts, im sure you know all about being an outcast in amerika, and thats precisely what you are. isnt it sad that reactionary far right lunatics like you are so greedy that youre willing to go to a country that hates you, and looks down on you. you and your family have no self respect. it’s no wonder why nobody else respects you either. you were hated on the mainland, hated on tw, and now hated in amerika, just like the rodent that you are.

    you confirm that the gmd were indeed sell outs, because sell outs always end up in amerika. stop insulting everyones intelligence by claiming to be fighting for the japanese. no one believes it, not me, and not your inperialist masters. personal gains is all that you care about, and thats why the inperialists hired the gmd in the 1st place. they know youre greedy, and they know youre selfish. remember that chump.

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    haha. outcast to the comunist party? there hasnt been a comunist party in 40yrs. deng/ye were the outcasts. im sure even a phony like you knows that. im sure you remember deng/ye, they were phonys like you who joined the comunist party, but wanted to carry out kapitalist policie...
     
    Oh yeah, speaking of losers, you would know quite well, wouldn't you? Welcome to future of the world that doesn't need you or the rest of your commies. Deng knew that, too.

    So, you old red bandit...

    Hurry up and die. Mao needs your company in Hell. I hope all of the children that you starved to death get to torment you for the rest of eternity.

    Ponder which philosophy actually won, and helped more people in the end while you're there.

    , @TT
    Deng understood well, a weak China like Qing Dynasty has no future of peace, but shall subject to another humiliating opium war.

    Look at those countries like NK, Cuba.. yes they probably enjoy what you wish, a central planning economy where everyone live simple, peaceful, few crimes, morally upright, with social security like free schooling & medical.

    But will the West empires vultures permit them to live in peace? Without China protection, NK will be in sanction hardship or get invaded. Cuba, Venezuela, Iran are still under constant threats & subversion. Many countries like Myanmar, Cambodia, Sukarno's Indonesia, Libya, Syria, ..are examples.

    So to have real communism benefits, China needs to be powerful enough to resist foreign aggression while able to protect its borders like SCS & against FukusIndia invasion. Without strong economy as backbone, what's there for modernizing military?

    Deng had good foresight to make China strong & prosperous through socialism-capitalism first. Only when reaches a threshold, and the world has rid off US evil empire, then China can start to roll out its own version of Socialism-Confucianism-Buddhism for a truly peaceful, prosperous, self sufficient, strong country with high morality people. Pres Xi has already working on that, a China dream with a common prosperous destiny for mankind.

    In reality, communism is destined for failure not bcos its not perfect, but a perfect idealism required perfect holy people to run it. Yet we know rare is Buddhist Ariyan or Confucianism saint, plentiful are greedy imperfect crooks that will lead the communism, that's a great disaster awaiting for mankind that history has proven.
    , @TT
    Whereas for KMT vs Communist Mao, i can't give fair judgement consider so much Western propaganda smearing. You & Daniel have better understanding.

    According to wikipedia, KMT had adopted Germans help to re-industrialization & militarization before Jp invasion. Gen Zhang Xueliang was said to have forced KMT Gen Jiang JS to defend Shanghai together with Comm using its best German trained army against its German advisor advice.

    If KMT will to win the struggle and rule China, with Jiang JS & Song QL close acquaintance with US & Soviet factor, China could have developed to unimaginable level by now. What Jp can achieved after ww2, China certainly can do better. It may likely bcom another evil corrupted empire like US filled with greed, but a few times bigger, and all christianized.

    Life is full of uncertainty, every turn can change entire life, but death is certained for everyone. Another few tens years all will be perished, another new generation appear, what's there to cling on & whine so much about KMT & Deng's mistake when Deng policy has elevated billion of Chinese from poverty?

    Look forwards, wish China can be successful to bring about peace & prosperity to this chaotic world. The only hope for mankind. Internal bickering don't help to bring out a better China & world. As China reach a threshold of development(20yrs at most), Taiwan will naturally rejoin its long lost motherland for a better future.

    You bet, Tibetans & Xinjiang are now laughing at their sky fallen fortune to be connected to China. Mongolia will want claim its historical ties soon, so are other lost territories & overseas Chinese diaspora. Even Oz will want to say since Zhenghe visited it & its located in Asia, it should be considered part of China domain. Chinese old saying: "Has milk is mother."
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  • @ve1
    i figured with a name like chieh, you had to be one of those compradores. you know, you should just change your last name too, to something like rhodes. meaning cecil rhodes, the great inperialist, and probably your idol. why stop with only your 1st name?

    i must not be that much of an idiot, because saw through your lies quickly and call you out on it, so dont get but hurt. you come on here lying, you should expect to be caught. you know whats sad about you boy? youre like a ju who complains about the holacaust. you make up stories to get sympathy, and when anyone with half a brain looks into the matter, they find out youre just another liar. and just like the juz who pretend to be victims, they turn out to be the real agresors, just like you.

    like i said, its a shame they didnt wipe you out. the world would be a better place without your extended family.

    if you claim that your family was wiped out by the kultural revalution, then you are just on here lying. the gmd was booted out of the mainland 17yrs prior to the kultural revalution. and like i said, china did the right thing by booting you out, because even 3 generations later, you show your anti demokratic colors. once heiwulei ALWAYS heiwulei. how about that? lol. it;s just a bloody shame they didnt boot you out earlier. let's just hope your scavenger ass doesnt go back.

    is there anything about you that isnt a lie? your ancestors were gmd, and died fighting japanese. why dont you get your lies straightened out. did they die fighting the japanese, or did they get wiped out by the kultural revalution? or did they die in the holacaust? lol. you couldnt fool a child, you mental midget. even inperialist amerikan universities will teach you that the gmd were a bunch of thugs, much like you, who were doing anything but fighting the japanese. why dont you go ask your amerikan dady. i dont believe for a second that the gmd was fighting the japanese. whats more believable was that the gmd was working with the japanese to kill defenseless people, because thats what cowards like you and your ancestors do. the gmd colludes with the japanese today, and im certain they were coluding with the japanese then. the only thing the gmd knew how to do was bully weak, poor peasants, and thats why you lost! serves you right. if there was ever a time in chinese history where justice was served it was when your family got snuffed. the masses turned on you as soon as they had capable leaders to back them. even though most people have forgotten how rotten the gmd was, i havent. and you know why else i dont buy that the gmd were fighting the japanese? all the gmd has been doing was serving the japanese once they got to taiwan. they were nothing but lap dogs for japan...from 49 til this day. japanese concesions could be found throughout tw from the 70s all the way til today. and none of it would happen if the gmd didnt give it the green light. of course you wont expect the gmd to defy their amerikan masters, because amerika said tw would come under japanese control. it's sad that you have to come here and lie. the gmd were killing their own people. thats the truth. and your attitude confirms the filth that is associated with the gmd. i dont even know why you guys call yourself gmd. theres nothing nationalistic about you. all you can do is run, and serve inperialism. youve never done a dam thing for your country execpt exploit it, and rob it. the fact that the mainland is relying on the gmd to unify china just shows how delusional xi is.

    isnt it interesting to note that the gmd always enjoys talking about chinese starving to death, yet they were the ones who made that happen. chinese people were starving precisely because the gmd robbed china of all its wealth. dont worry about us peasants though. we know how to farm, so we wont starve, unlike you parasites who need to exploit others to work. we carry our own weight. thats something youre unlikely to ever know about.

    ask your grandparents how much gold the kapitalist chiang thugs stole from china. if anything it's the gmd who owes the mainland trillions plus interest. the gmd has such a bad reputation, that theyre hated in tw too now. what a surprise. looks like you and your ancestors have a real bad track record. because it seems like no matter where you go, massacres, and atrocities follow. they even made a holiday after you in tw called 228. why dont you show your ugly mug around tw on that day. im sure theyll give you the payback you deserve. theyll beat you worse than the amerikan jocks who stuffed you in your locker.

    regardless of what savages your ancesters were, i doubt you would try to act a fool in amerika, cause whitey will quickly put you in your place. so hopefully your savagry ends there. you better watch yourself, because if your anything like your bandit ancestors, youll end up part of the amerikan prison industrial complex with the quickness, and end up being someones wife. and it may be there that youll end up working for the first time in your life, washing someones draws.

    nobody owes you a dam thing. the only thing i owe you is a swift kick to the ass, but im sure you got enough of that from your white dady over in amerika. actually i love it when i see racism in amerika, because compradore scum like you do so much to serve your master, and then when you get to amerika, they welcome you with a slap to your cowardly face.

    you want hand outs, go ask your japanese, and amerikan masters, because you belong to them. if anything, you should be put to work (you probably never worked a day in your life) in the fields to pay for your ancestors crimes against humanity. and it doesnt surprise me that your ancestors is from shanghai either. shanghainese have a solid reputation for being swine parasite, no matter in hk, tw, or the mainland.

    the only thing compradore scum like you can ever do is serve your inperialist masters. like i said, the comunists did the right thing by going to war with you, and booting you off the mainland. the biggest mistake the chinese ever did was to end the revalution, and let diseases like you resurface.

    now im willing to bet that your family went running to the usa because everyone in china wanted to kill them, but you cant blame them. instead of blaming the comunists, you might want to look at why ordinary peasants picked up arms against you. maybe it was your ancestors dispicable behavior that led to your expulsion. youre just mad that your victims rose up against you. i applaud, and commend them for doing so. more power to them for booting you out. and shame on your family for being cowards and running. you should have at least stayed for the ass woopin. i guess i wouldnt expect anymore from bullies like your ancestors. when the going gets tough, the cowards are the first ones to run.

    If you weren’t historically illiterate, you’d know that KMT forces were the only serious force defending Shanghai against the Japanese. You lack the mental dexterity to figure out what happens to survivors left on the mainland who got struggled, clearly, and I don’t feel a need to enlighten you. Enjoy being in outcast even to the Communist party.

    BTW, this is not my real name and grandfather is a Taiwanese general. Unlike you, I am not an outcast.

    Now give me my land back.

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  • ve1 says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    if your entire family was wiped out, why are you still here?
     
    We were KMT you idiot.

    Because you lost at Kinmen. I mean "you" loosely, because unlike my ancestors that died in just about every part of China fighting your commie kin and the Japanese, I bet yours did nothing but kill little girls.

    And after having reduced a great civilization to eating tree bark, infanticide and cannibalism, and indeed having been rejected by Communist Party itself, you're still blabbering here.

    Oh, and you owe me a good chunk of Pudong, Shanghai. We've had it since the Ming. For someone blabbing about foreign influence, you do a good job of destroying your own mandarin class.

    I commend you for your fanaticism, Maozuo Red. Now get lost. No one is stopping you from living your communist utopia in the boonies, you know and starving to death like what you inflicted upon others.

    i figured with a name like chieh, you had to be one of those compradores. you know, you should just change your last name too, to something like rhodes. meaning cecil rhodes, the great inperialist, and probably your idol. why stop with only your 1st name?

    i must not be that much of an idiot, because saw through your lies quickly and call you out on it, so dont get but hurt. you come on here lying, you should expect to be caught. you know whats sad about you boy? youre like a ju who complains about the holacaust. you make up stories to get sympathy, and when anyone with half a brain looks into the matter, they find out youre just another liar. and just like the juz who pretend to be victims, they turn out to be the real agresors, just like you.

    like i said, its a shame they didnt wipe you out. the world would be a better place without your extended family.

    if you claim that your family was wiped out by the kultural revalution, then you are just on here lying. the gmd was booted out of the mainland 17yrs prior to the kultural revalution. and like i said, china did the right thing by booting you out, because even 3 generations later, you show your anti demokratic colors. once heiwulei ALWAYS heiwulei. how about that? lol. it;s just a bloody shame they didnt boot you out earlier. let’s just hope your scavenger ass doesnt go back.

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    is there anything about you that isnt a lie? your ancestors were gmd, and died fighting japanese. why dont you get your lies straightened out. did they die fighting the japanese, or did they get wiped out by the kultural revalution? or did they die in the holacaust? lol. you couldnt fool a child, you mental midget. even inperialist amerikan universities will teach you that the gmd were a bunch of thugs, much like you, who were doing anything but fighting the japanese. why dont you go ask your amerikan dady. i dont believe for a second that the gmd was fighting the japanese. whats more believable was that the gmd was working with the japanese to kill defenseless people, because thats what cowards like you and your ancestors do. the gmd colludes with the japanese today, and im certain they were coluding with the japanese then. the only thing the gmd knew how to do was bully weak, poor peasants, and thats why you lost! serves you right. if there was ever a time in chinese history where justice was served it was when your family got snuffed. the masses turned on you as soon as they had capable leaders to back them. even though most people have forgotten how rotten the gmd was, i havent. and you know why else i dont buy that the gmd were fighting the japanese? all the gmd has been doing was serving the japanese once they got to taiwan. they were nothing but lap dogs for japan…from 49 til this day. japanese concesions could be found throughout tw from the 70s all the way til today. and none of it would happen if the gmd didnt give it the green light. of course you wont expect the gmd to defy their amerikan masters, because amerika said tw would come under japanese control. it’s sad that you have to come here and lie. the gmd were killing their own people. thats the truth. and your attitude confirms the filth that is associated with the gmd. i dont even know why you guys call yourself gmd. theres nothing nationalistic about you. all you can do is run, and serve inperialism. youve never done a dam thing for your country execpt exploit it, and rob it. the fact that the mainland is relying on the gmd to unify china just shows how delusional xi is.

    isnt it interesting to note that the gmd always enjoys talking about chinese starving to death, yet they were the ones who made that happen. chinese people were starving precisely because the gmd robbed china of all its wealth. dont worry about us peasants though. we know how to farm, so we wont starve, unlike you parasites who need to exploit others to work. we carry our own weight. thats something youre unlikely to ever know about.

    ask your grandparents how much gold the kapitalist chiang thugs stole from china. if anything it’s the gmd who owes the mainland trillions plus interest. the gmd has such a bad reputation, that theyre hated in tw too now. what a surprise. looks like you and your ancestors have a real bad track record. because it seems like no matter where you go, massacres, and atrocities follow. they even made a holiday after you in tw called 228. why dont you show your ugly mug around tw on that day. im sure theyll give you the payback you deserve. theyll beat you worse than the amerikan jocks who stuffed you in your locker.

    regardless of what savages your ancesters were, i doubt you would try to act a fool in amerika, cause whitey will quickly put you in your place. so hopefully your savagry ends there. you better watch yourself, because if your anything like your bandit ancestors, youll end up part of the amerikan prison industrial complex with the quickness, and end up being someones wife. and it may be there that youll end up working for the first time in your life, washing someones draws.

    nobody owes you a dam thing. the only thing i owe you is a swift kick to the ass, but im sure you got enough of that from your white dady over in amerika. actually i love it when i see racism in amerika, because compradore scum like you do so much to serve your master, and then when you get to amerika, they welcome you with a slap to your cowardly face.

    you want hand outs, go ask your japanese, and amerikan masters, because you belong to them. if anything, you should be put to work (you probably never worked a day in your life) in the fields to pay for your ancestors crimes against humanity. and it doesnt surprise me that your ancestors is from shanghai either. shanghainese have a solid reputation for being swine parasite, no matter in hk, tw, or the mainland.

    the only thing compradore scum like you can ever do is serve your inperialist masters. like i said, the comunists did the right thing by going to war with you, and booting you off the mainland. the biggest mistake the chinese ever did was to end the revalution, and let diseases like you resurface.

    now im willing to bet that your family went running to the usa because everyone in china wanted to kill them, but you cant blame them. instead of blaming the comunists, you might want to look at why ordinary peasants picked up arms against you. maybe it was your ancestors dispicable behavior that led to your expulsion. youre just mad that your victims rose up against you. i applaud, and commend them for doing so. more power to them for booting you out. and shame on your family for being cowards and running. you should have at least stayed for the ass woopin. i guess i wouldnt expect anymore from bullies like your ancestors. when the going gets tough, the cowards are the first ones to run.

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    If you weren't historically illiterate, you'd know that KMT forces were the only serious force defending Shanghai against the Japanese. You lack the mental dexterity to figure out what happens to survivors left on the mainland who got struggled, clearly, and I don't feel a need to enlighten you. Enjoy being in outcast even to the Communist party.

    BTW, this is not my real name and grandfather is a Taiwanese general. Unlike you, I am not an outcast.

    Now give me my land back.

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  • @JohnnyWalker123

    You are assuming all of them are poor
     
    I'm assuming that the fraction of affluent upper-castes is much large than the fraction of affluent lower-castes. So this could explain why upper-caste children are much more likely to gain admission to competitive universities. Also, even affluent lower-castes likely haven't been affluent for a particularly long time. So they don't have the advantages of coming from a family that's been affluent and educated for generations. The also are more likely to have poorer, uneducated relatives and therefore much different peer groups.

    I'd like to see a comparison of lower-caste and upper-caste which adjusts for socioeconomic status. Poor lower-caste vs poor upper caste. Rich lower-caste vs rich upper-caste. That'd be more interesting to see.

    The percentages of Brahmin castes is higher in the North than the South. Yet the IT/software industry is in the South. So if upper-caste Indians really were that much smarter than lower-castes, why is the North no more advanced?

    Because the North is full of warmongers & you’re retarded if you think ‘upper’ ‘lower’ correlates with North South or Dark Light like you wannabe Aryan whites need to believe।।

    See how much of IT is dominated by North or Brahmin & who cares anyway

    “All along the platform, blue-turbaned Sikhs sat cross-legged, their curved kirpans across their knees, patiently waiting for the next arriving Special.”

    http://www.caravanmagazine.in/vantage/did-sikhs-squads-participate-organised-attempt-cleanse-east-punjab-during-partition

    This is your fate, Dirty Melech.

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  • @ve1
    if your entire family was wiped out, why are you still here? obviously they didnt do a good enough job. how bout this? why dont you join them in the abys? like i always said, mao was too soft on the fashists, and thats precisely why youre still here. think about this......how many livlihoods have been wiped out by your precious reforms. better to wipe out 10000000000 bourgeoisie than to affect 1 proletariat.

    if your entire family was wiped out, why are you still here?

    We were KMT you idiot.

    Because you lost at Kinmen. I mean “you” loosely, because unlike my ancestors that died in just about every part of China fighting your commie kin and the Japanese, I bet yours did nothing but kill little girls.

    And after having reduced a great civilization to eating tree bark, infanticide and cannibalism, and indeed having been rejected by Communist Party itself, you’re still blabbering here.

    Oh, and you owe me a good chunk of Pudong, Shanghai. We’ve had it since the Ming. For someone blabbing about foreign influence, you do a good job of destroying your own mandarin class.

    I commend you for your fanaticism, Maozuo Red. Now get lost. No one is stopping you from living your communist utopia in the boonies, you know and starving to death like what you inflicted upon others.

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    i figured with a name like chieh, you had to be one of those compradores. you know, you should just change your last name too, to something like rhodes. meaning cecil rhodes, the great inperialist, and probably your idol. why stop with only your 1st name?

    i must not be that much of an idiot, because saw through your lies quickly and call you out on it, so dont get but hurt. you come on here lying, you should expect to be caught. you know whats sad about you boy? youre like a ju who complains about the holacaust. you make up stories to get sympathy, and when anyone with half a brain looks into the matter, they find out youre just another liar. and just like the juz who pretend to be victims, they turn out to be the real agresors, just like you.

    like i said, its a shame they didnt wipe you out. the world would be a better place without your extended family.

    if you claim that your family was wiped out by the kultural revalution, then you are just on here lying. the gmd was booted out of the mainland 17yrs prior to the kultural revalution. and like i said, china did the right thing by booting you out, because even 3 generations later, you show your anti demokratic colors. once heiwulei ALWAYS heiwulei. how about that? lol. it;s just a bloody shame they didnt boot you out earlier. let's just hope your scavenger ass doesnt go back.

    is there anything about you that isnt a lie? your ancestors were gmd, and died fighting japanese. why dont you get your lies straightened out. did they die fighting the japanese, or did they get wiped out by the kultural revalution? or did they die in the holacaust? lol. you couldnt fool a child, you mental midget. even inperialist amerikan universities will teach you that the gmd were a bunch of thugs, much like you, who were doing anything but fighting the japanese. why dont you go ask your amerikan dady. i dont believe for a second that the gmd was fighting the japanese. whats more believable was that the gmd was working with the japanese to kill defenseless people, because thats what cowards like you and your ancestors do. the gmd colludes with the japanese today, and im certain they were coluding with the japanese then. the only thing the gmd knew how to do was bully weak, poor peasants, and thats why you lost! serves you right. if there was ever a time in chinese history where justice was served it was when your family got snuffed. the masses turned on you as soon as they had capable leaders to back them. even though most people have forgotten how rotten the gmd was, i havent. and you know why else i dont buy that the gmd were fighting the japanese? all the gmd has been doing was serving the japanese once they got to taiwan. they were nothing but lap dogs for japan...from 49 til this day. japanese concesions could be found throughout tw from the 70s all the way til today. and none of it would happen if the gmd didnt give it the green light. of course you wont expect the gmd to defy their amerikan masters, because amerika said tw would come under japanese control. it's sad that you have to come here and lie. the gmd were killing their own people. thats the truth. and your attitude confirms the filth that is associated with the gmd. i dont even know why you guys call yourself gmd. theres nothing nationalistic about you. all you can do is run, and serve inperialism. youve never done a dam thing for your country execpt exploit it, and rob it. the fact that the mainland is relying on the gmd to unify china just shows how delusional xi is.

    isnt it interesting to note that the gmd always enjoys talking about chinese starving to death, yet they were the ones who made that happen. chinese people were starving precisely because the gmd robbed china of all its wealth. dont worry about us peasants though. we know how to farm, so we wont starve, unlike you parasites who need to exploit others to work. we carry our own weight. thats something youre unlikely to ever know about.

    ask your grandparents how much gold the kapitalist chiang thugs stole from china. if anything it's the gmd who owes the mainland trillions plus interest. the gmd has such a bad reputation, that theyre hated in tw too now. what a surprise. looks like you and your ancestors have a real bad track record. because it seems like no matter where you go, massacres, and atrocities follow. they even made a holiday after you in tw called 228. why dont you show your ugly mug around tw on that day. im sure theyll give you the payback you deserve. theyll beat you worse than the amerikan jocks who stuffed you in your locker.

    regardless of what savages your ancesters were, i doubt you would try to act a fool in amerika, cause whitey will quickly put you in your place. so hopefully your savagry ends there. you better watch yourself, because if your anything like your bandit ancestors, youll end up part of the amerikan prison industrial complex with the quickness, and end up being someones wife. and it may be there that youll end up working for the first time in your life, washing someones draws.

    nobody owes you a dam thing. the only thing i owe you is a swift kick to the ass, but im sure you got enough of that from your white dady over in amerika. actually i love it when i see racism in amerika, because compradore scum like you do so much to serve your master, and then when you get to amerika, they welcome you with a slap to your cowardly face.

    you want hand outs, go ask your japanese, and amerikan masters, because you belong to them. if anything, you should be put to work (you probably never worked a day in your life) in the fields to pay for your ancestors crimes against humanity. and it doesnt surprise me that your ancestors is from shanghai either. shanghainese have a solid reputation for being swine parasite, no matter in hk, tw, or the mainland.

    the only thing compradore scum like you can ever do is serve your inperialist masters. like i said, the comunists did the right thing by going to war with you, and booting you off the mainland. the biggest mistake the chinese ever did was to end the revalution, and let diseases like you resurface.

    now im willing to bet that your family went running to the usa because everyone in china wanted to kill them, but you cant blame them. instead of blaming the comunists, you might want to look at why ordinary peasants picked up arms against you. maybe it was your ancestors dispicable behavior that led to your expulsion. youre just mad that your victims rose up against you. i applaud, and commend them for doing so. more power to them for booting you out. and shame on your family for being cowards and running. you should have at least stayed for the ass woopin. i guess i wouldnt expect anymore from bullies like your ancestors. when the going gets tough, the cowards are the first ones to run.
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  • ve1 says:

    the kultural revalution stands correct. you notice when those targeted during the kultural revalution regained their power, they led china down a road of disaster, and humiliation that continues til this day. the coruption, polution, and crime came. which proves that the kultural revalution was corect, and those targeted were indeed the true criminals. actually, i heard from a chinese guy that his thermos got stolen the day that deng seized power. before that, there werent any thieves. factory workers were their own masters throughout the comunist era, and it was only until your precious reforms that the workers, and peasants became reenslaved again. you also notice that a large % of high profile anti chinese cliques outside of china were also targets of the kultural revalution, just like you suposedly claim to be. this indicates that the so called “victims” of the kultral revalution are and were the sell outs who continue to sell out china just like gorbachev did the ussr. and sell outs like you wont stop until china is split up into 20 countries. the fact of the matter is, china wouldnt be in such a sad state if it werent for these sell outs like “daniel”. you see he is so much of a sell out, the guy has to use a christian name. how pathetic. stop trying to impress your inperialist master for just one minute, and just be yourself boy. are you right wingers capable of being genuine even for just one moment? youve been kowtowing to your inperialist masters for 40yrs straight, and where has that gotten you?

    read this, my little 50 cent man, and please reflect on your own stupidity.

    China uses its markets to get what it wants, but this doesn’t work. When China first became kapitalist in 1978, China thought it could neutralize the world with its markets. The logic behind this is, if foreigners are allowed to make money in China, foreigners would not attack China the way that foreigners were attacking China all through the history of the PRC. Deng was wrong. Only 11 yrs after China went kapitalist, the west tried to overthrow Deng. So, what does this tell you? It should tell you that giving markets to the west will not neurtralize them, or satisfy them. You can’t use money to buy them out. The only way out is by defeating them.

    Despite the obvious flaws in Deng/Ye’s policies, and ideas, they went with this throughout the 80s, and 90s. Even today, they use this idea of trying to buy influence with their markets. The one belt one road initiative highlights this point exactly. You look at one belt one road, and you can see that the primary objective of this plan is to allow foreign countries to make money off of China. They want to set up a platform that makes it easier for foreigners to import their products INTO China, and not the other way around. You look at a country like the Czech republic. How much Chinese products could they possibly buy from China? Whatever they can give China, it would be peanuts compared to how much the Czech republic can make off of China.

    Deng’s gang used this policy with Hongers, Taiwanese, Japanese, Singaporians, and south Koreans. They allowed for foreigners to make trillions off of China’s exploitation. Even Xi’s rejim has repeately said, we have such a huge market, don’t you want a piece of it? That’s their catch phrase, and it’s how they hope to lure foreigners in. Compare this with the US and west’s policy of “disobey me, and I will beat you senseless”.

    Just like using markets to buy influence didn’t work with American, neither did it work with the Hongers, Taiwanese, Japanese, Singaporians, and south Koreans.

    Hongers are given access to the mainland markets. They run many companies in the mainland. They are also given access to the mainland’s entertainment market where many of HK’s unentertaining actors, and singers are given a platform to rake in billions. However, today’s Hong Kong is more anti Chinese than ever before in history. Mainlanders are getting beaten and bullied in public all throughout the city. They even had a year long protest directed at the central goverment. The most ironic thing about the revisionist move to use markets to buy influence is, in 1967, Hongers started riots that were pro Chinese in nature, and anti British. However, fast fwd 40yrs after Dengism, and Hongers are now rioting against China on behalf of the west. Isn’t that ironic? The Dengists believed that giving Hongers markets would buy sympathy from Hongers, but it did the opposite.

    Billions in concesions have been given to Taiwan. Like Hong Kong, the mainland also gave a huge concesion to TW’s “entertainment industry”. The mainland buys many products from Taiwan that the mainland can make themselves. The mainland allows Taiwan to exploit the mainland workers, and open factories. The mainland sends millions of tourists to Taiwan each year. And where has this gotten the mainland? Nowhere. Like Hong Kong, the Taiwanese are arguably more anti Chinese today than they were 40 years ago. To give you an idea on how anti Chinese Taiwan has become, in Taiwan’s university campuses, mainland students are marginalized, and avoided like the plague. The separatist movement in the province has gotten so big that many of both sides of the strait are talking about a military confrontation. Some even say that the mainland’s military build up is precisely preparing for such a confrontation.

    Japan makes tons of money off of China. They are the top selling cameras, cars, and many electronic devices. Millions of Chinese tourists also go to Japan. The Chinese goverment uses Japanese cameras. Walk on any Chinese street, and you will see Japanese cars. Thousands of Japanese restraunts are scattered throughout China, raking in billions in profits. So where does that get China? You guessed it. Nowhere. Not only are Japanese anti Chinese, but the Japanese goverment has come out, and publicly challenged China. For the past few years, Japan has been fighting China for the Diaoyu islands, islands that are rich in natural resources. The Japanese air force also reguarly menaces the PLA. Japan is also a major backer of anti Chinese forces on Taiwan. Japan has also conspired with India on numerous platforms against China. Before Duterte came to power, Japan was regularly instigating trouble between China, and the Philipines. Japan even gave weapons to Aquino in order to iritate China, because at the time, the west was counting on the Philipines to confront China. Now that Aquino is out of the picture, Japan is still up to its old tricks in instigating trouble between China, and Vietnam.

    Like the others Singapore, although a country the size of a booger, makes a killing in China. For those who don’t know, Singapore has a long history of pro inperialist politics, but they are also very dear friends to the revisionist Chinese rejim. This is why they operate numerous companies, malls, and food courts in China. Singapore is also a major investor in Xiaomi, and makes billions off of Xiaomi alone. And how does Singapore pay China back? They publicly denounce China, and insist that the south China sea belongs to the Philipines, and NOT China. Yes, this is how Singapore pays China back. Singapore also regularly hosts military exercises with the US directed AGAINST China. Singapore has gone so far in their anti Chinese stunts that it actually iritated some Chinese politicians, and prompted the building of an alternative port (to Singapore) based in Malaysia.

    Last but not least, south Korea is also another properous parasite. For many years, Chinese taxis exclusively bought and used Hyundai vehicles, allowing south Korea to make billions off of this deal alone. This on top of south Korea’s ability to make billions more off of China’s entertainment industry. China allowed south Korean “actors and singers” to perform in China, pulling in billions. South Korea was given many benefits by the Chinese goverment, but despite this, south Korea still stabbed China in the back. The most obvious example of this is south Korea’s decision to install the Thad weapon system, a weapon system that is directed against China. Not only this, south Korea also regularly sponsors activities to cause trouble in the Korean peninsula, often times by provoking north Korea. The south Korean rejim is also responsible for hosting many US military drills, and exercises aimed at destabilizing China.

    People don’t understand that influence comes from the barel of a gun, not through markets. You can give all the markets in the world to people, but without a strong fist to back up your policies, it will never amount to anything. America doesn’t influence the world through markets, neither did the British before them. This is why the US maintains hundreds of bases across the world, and regularly conducts menacing military exercises aimed to intimidate countries like China. It is only through a strong offensive that the US, and west is able to maintain their influence throughout the world. If you look at Europe, they hardly buy anything from Taiwan. Not only that, Taiwan actually buys tons from Europe, but it can be argued that Europe have more influence in Taiwan than Mainland China despite all the things the mainland buys from Taiwan. I’m assuming that it’s because Europe has a much more offensive strategy, and character. The world’s leader understands that if you offend the US or Europe, they will back opposition movements right up to your front door just like the kinds you saw in Libya, and the Ukraine. It’s these kinds of stunts that really highlight western power. This is something that markets alone can control. Foreigners run no such risks by offending China. This is why rejims turn against China, time and time again.

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    i’m assuming that it’s because Europe has a much more offensive strategy, and character. The world’s leader understands that if you offend the US or Europe, they will back opposition movements right up to your front door just like the kinds you saw in Libya, and the Ukraine. It’s these kinds of stunts that really highlight western power. This is something that markets alone can control. Foreigners run no such risks by offending China. This is why rejims turn against China, time and time again.
     
    Do you want China to take that same foolish empire path? Chinese has better wisdom over 5,000yrs.

    Precisely bcos of this evil empires, all China allies are subverted by FukusIndiaJp. These allies turn anti-China nonsense can only stop when China can counter-FukusIndiaJp to protect its allies, which China has juz did for Philippines(US ISIS attack), Nepal(India oil embargo) & Mauritius(US India military threat & regime change).

    Spore has proven itself under Lee Kuang Yew since China open up, by providing every helps it could. Lee Kuang Yew was a extraordinary stateman that could balance geopolitical power. But Lee HL is simply there through nepotism, unable to resist Fukus manipulation.

    Look at SK ex-Pres Park, she is now in 30yrs prison term for been pro-China & refusing to install Thaad. Can new SK Pres resist US? You bet, Thaad is up immediately.

    HK is instigated for independent by Fukus, CIA is in full force. So is Taiwan, US & Jp hands are all deep inside, brainwashing them for last 50yrs with frightening false Tiananmen massacre of students propaganda. Who you gonna blame for Tibet & Xinjiang secession drive, Deng?

    Every single country that are pro-China or helpful for China progress(BRI nodes) are all under attacked or regime change now. Entire Asean, Asia, Oz, Nz, Latin America, Africa, Brazil, Pak, Nepal, Mauritius, Mongolia, Malaysia, Thailand.... either change leader by corrupted judge, or color revolution, or election meddling or coup. If all failed, then its sanction & direct invasion like Libya, Syria, NK, Myanmar...

    So stop whining, and blame FukusIndiaJp sabotage on your own greatest leader Deng foolishly. China leaders have done an excellent Hercules job to transform poor China under enormous West sabotage to what it is today, a stellar powerful country that the world look up for hope to prosperity & peace.

    And PLA is going through unprecedented modernization to defend China interest spreading globally, including its allies too. All these required huge economy to support.

    China think tank is better than you can imagine, they see the entire geopolitical situation as a whole & are rolling out strategies in multi complex phases. One big bang move will be Petrol-Yuan, this will be a Domino effect to dismantle US evil empire prop up by unlimited Petrol dollars printing, without risking a devastating nuclear war.

    If you unable to understand SunTze Arts of War, at least see the result. The world is in a mess, only China & Russia are progressing in stability & working towards de-clawing of the evil empires.
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  • @Daniel Chieh
    Hello, Mao-Zuo holdout.

    My entire family was basically wiped out by your precious Cultural Revolution of "high moral standards."

    Fuck you.

    if your entire family was wiped out, why are you still here? obviously they didnt do a good enough job. how bout this? why dont you join them in the abys? like i always said, mao was too soft on the fashists, and thats precisely why youre still here. think about this……how many livlihoods have been wiped out by your precious reforms. better to wipe out 10000000000 bourgeoisie than to affect 1 proletariat.

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    if your entire family was wiped out, why are you still here?
     
    We were KMT you idiot.

    Because you lost at Kinmen. I mean "you" loosely, because unlike my ancestors that died in just about every part of China fighting your commie kin and the Japanese, I bet yours did nothing but kill little girls.

    And after having reduced a great civilization to eating tree bark, infanticide and cannibalism, and indeed having been rejected by Communist Party itself, you're still blabbering here.

    Oh, and you owe me a good chunk of Pudong, Shanghai. We've had it since the Ming. For someone blabbing about foreign influence, you do a good job of destroying your own mandarin class.

    I commend you for your fanaticism, Maozuo Red. Now get lost. No one is stopping you from living your communist utopia in the boonies, you know and starving to death like what you inflicted upon others.

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  • @ve1
    Recently, the Chinese media has been talking about gun control. The Chinese love to use this opportunity to talk about how safe China is because they have gun controls. While it is true that China is safer than the west, the Chinese revisionists will only give you one side of the story. Something they'd rather not touch upon is how today's China is much more dangerous and chaotic than it was in 1966, or even 1976 for that matter. The obvious reason for this is because China has become kapitalist, and kapitalism brings crime. It's a pattern that could be seen not only in China, but also eastern Europe. China doesn't want to admit that their reforms have brought about more crime since 1978. They want to take credit for all the "good things" that have happened since 1978 (whatever those are), but not take credit for all the bad things that have happened.

    Almost all the bad things are a result of China's opening up, and reform. Think about the bad things that the inperialits always complain about. Coruption, and pollution. The kultural revalution kept pollution down to a minimum, and fought coruption hard. What the revisionists did was increase it. In fact, it's so bad, that corruption, and pollution is what the revisionists are known for now.

    Then let's talk about the things that the inperialists don't want to talk about. Crime isn't an issue for inperialists because inperialism, and kapitalism go hand in hand with crime, but ordinary people may not agree. For those of us who can't afford to hire body guards, crime is just as important of an issue as pollution, or coruption. In kapitalist societies we have to worry about our kids walking home from school. Not so under comunism, where kids are generally safe to walk home, play with strangers, and live their lives.

    Trust. People in China simply don't trust each other like the way they did during the kultural revalution. People are suspicious of one another because of all the bad things that have been going on in these past 40yrs. Furthermore, the revisionist rejim has unable to educate people on how to properly behave. They want quick fix solutions like religion. In recent years, there has been talk of using religion to civilize people, but the truth is, religion can't do that. The west is very religious, yet that hasn't done a whole lot to curb crime. On the other hand, comunism has done a lot to curb crime. Mao was able to boot out the biggest godfathers of crime in his first few years in power. This is why you see the majority of Chinese crime families are based out of HK, or TW.

    Unfortunately, the revisionists have chosen to distance themselves from comunism, and now they the people must pay the price for the eroneous descisions of the post Mao leadership. The lack of trust in Chinese society directly reflects the flawed leadership in the CCP (Chinese capitalist party).

    The fact of the matter is, since 1978, the more reforms China has introduced, the more dangerous the streets got. Today's China is a polar opposite to what it was in 1966. There is more security in China than possibly anywhere else in the world. Hotels are required to take your photograph. Internet cafes want your fingerprints. There's gates at schools. The security in Chinese schools are more strict than schools in New York's suburbs. China has security checks, and xrays at every single subway, railway, and bus station. That's even worse than Amerika. This all indicates that there's something very wrong with Chinese society, and Chinese leadership today. When you have a good society, and good leadership, you don't need security, especially the kinds of security we see today. Throughout the kultural revalution, there were no security guards at schools, or gates. However, it would be hard to find a Chinese school without that today. During the kultural revalution, 2 cops were often enough to take care of a town, however, today, 200 would not be enough. The revisionists accused Jiang Qing of being paranoid, but Jiang Qing's China did not have a fraction of all this security. Back then, there wasn't even a Wujing. So who's really paranoid?

    Let's face it, reforms have brought out the worst in everyone. We can also conclude that the Chinese goverment has failed at educating two generations worth of people. One of the main reasons why Chinese leaders fail at educating Chinese youth is because the Chinese leaders moral values are in the wrong place themselves. How can you expect the people to do the right thing if you are doing the wrong thing? If the Chinese rejim doesn't take responsibility for this, who will? They want to tell you that in 40 years, they've lifted millions out of poverty, but how many millions of benevolent people did you turn into crooks? I often look at today's Chinese degenerates and wonder what these people would have been like during the kultural revalution. What would their role have been in society? One thing's for sure, it can't be as bad as today. These thugs would not have been hustling in the streets.

    Something else that is disturbing is the rise in separatist movements, particularly in the Xingjiang, and Xizang areas. The kultural revalution gave the muslims, and tibetans something they could believe in, in contrast to Deng's ambitions of making foreigners wealthier. When your ideas are bad, it's hard to get people to along with them, and that's what's happening in China today. Chinese leaders have bad ideas, people can't get behind it. The dismisal of comunism in China has left millions broken, and lost. So they lose the loyalty and faith of not only the ethnic minorities but also the Han majority. Therefore it is no surprise that muslims, and tibetans find themselves unsuspectingly revolting against China, and through many proxies, on behalf of the west. Today, it is patriotism that has been contained, largely because the Chinese leaders' loyalties have shifted from China, to the west. Therefore, the separatism in China serves as a reflection to the traitorous policies of the leaders who succeeded Mao who have worked hard to pillage China, and making foreigners wealthier.

    China's gun control laws don't make China safe, and people need to take another look at why China is so much less safe today that it was in 1966. Simplay claiming that China is safer than the west only masks the problem that China is facing. Crime has been rising consistently since 1978, and will continue to do so with the far right politics that China is imposing upon the people. The revisionists also need to reflect upon themselves on whether or not they're taking China in the wrong direction, and all the problems kapitalism has brought to China in the past 40 years, partcularly the decline in Chinese people's moral values since 1978. This is not only a concern arising from the left. Even those on the right will admit that people were nicer in 1966 than they are today. The only problem is, as with right winters, they are willing to accept chaos in order to get rich, but the question is, who gave these revisionists, and bourgeoisie the right to bring agony to the Chinese masses just so a small group of bourgeois parasites can get rich?

    The revisionists use their "economy" to confirm that revisionism, and reforms were justified. However, the crime, coruption, pollution confirms that deng's reforms are wrong.

    Hello, Mao-Zuo holdout.

    My entire family was basically wiped out by your precious Cultural Revolution of “high moral standards.”

    Fuck you.

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    if your entire family was wiped out, why are you still here? obviously they didnt do a good enough job. how bout this? why dont you join them in the abys? like i always said, mao was too soft on the fashists, and thats precisely why youre still here. think about this......how many livlihoods have been wiped out by your precious reforms. better to wipe out 10000000000 bourgeoisie than to affect 1 proletariat.
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  • ve1 says:

    Recently, the Chinese media has been talking about gun control. The Chinese love to use this opportunity to talk about how safe China is because they have gun controls. While it is true that China is safer than the west, the Chinese revisionists will only give you one side of the story. Something they’d rather not touch upon is how today’s China is much more dangerous and chaotic than it was in 1966, or even 1976 for that matter. The obvious reason for this is because China has become kapitalist, and kapitalism brings crime. It’s a pattern that could be seen not only in China, but also eastern Europe. China doesn’t want to admit that their reforms have brought about more crime since 1978. They want to take credit for all the “good things” that have happened since 1978 (whatever those are), but not take credit for all the bad things that have happened.

    Almost all the bad things are a result of China’s opening up, and reform. Think about the bad things that the inperialits always complain about. Coruption, and pollution. The kultural revalution kept pollution down to a minimum, and fought coruption hard. What the revisionists did was increase it. In fact, it’s so bad, that corruption, and pollution is what the revisionists are known for now.

    Then let’s talk about the things that the inperialists don’t want to talk about. Crime isn’t an issue for inperialists because inperialism, and kapitalism go hand in hand with crime, but ordinary people may not agree. For those of us who can’t afford to hire body guards, crime is just as important of an issue as pollution, or coruption. In kapitalist societies we have to worry about our kids walking home from school. Not so under comunism, where kids are generally safe to walk home, play with strangers, and live their lives.

    Trust. People in China simply don’t trust each other like the way they did during the kultural revalution. People are suspicious of one another because of all the bad things that have been going on in these past 40yrs. Furthermore, the revisionist rejim has unable to educate people on how to properly behave. They want quick fix solutions like religion. In recent years, there has been talk of using religion to civilize people, but the truth is, religion can’t do that. The west is very religious, yet that hasn’t done a whole lot to curb crime. On the other hand, comunism has done a lot to curb crime. Mao was able to boot out the biggest godfathers of crime in his first few years in power. This is why you see the majority of Chinese crime families are based out of HK, or TW.

    Unfortunately, the revisionists have chosen to distance themselves from comunism, and now they the people must pay the price for the eroneous descisions of the post Mao leadership. The lack of trust in Chinese society directly reflects the flawed leadership in the CCP (Chinese capitalist party).

    The fact of the matter is, since 1978, the more reforms China has introduced, the more dangerous the streets got. Today’s China is a polar opposite to what it was in 1966. There is more security in China than possibly anywhere else in the world. Hotels are required to take your photograph. Internet cafes want your fingerprints. There’s gates at schools. The security in Chinese schools are more strict than schools in New York’s suburbs. China has security checks, and xrays at every single subway, railway, and bus station. That’s even worse than Amerika. This all indicates that there’s something very wrong with Chinese society, and Chinese leadership today. When you have a good society, and good leadership, you don’t need security, especially the kinds of security we see today. Throughout the kultural revalution, there were no security guards at schools, or gates. However, it would be hard to find a Chinese school without that today. During the kultural revalution, 2 cops were often enough to take care of a town, however, today, 200 would not be enough. The revisionists accused Jiang Qing of being paranoid, but Jiang Qing’s China did not have a fraction of all this security. Back then, there wasn’t even a Wujing. So who’s really paranoid?

    Let’s face it, reforms have brought out the worst in everyone. We can also conclude that the Chinese goverment has failed at educating two generations worth of people. One of the main reasons why Chinese leaders fail at educating Chinese youth is because the Chinese leaders moral values are in the wrong place themselves. How can you expect the people to do the right thing if you are doing the wrong thing? If the Chinese rejim doesn’t take responsibility for this, who will? They want to tell you that in 40 years, they’ve lifted millions out of poverty, but how many millions of benevolent people did you turn into crooks? I often look at today’s Chinese degenerates and wonder what these people would have been like during the kultural revalution. What would their role have been in society? One thing’s for sure, it can’t be as bad as today. These thugs would not have been hustling in the streets.

    Something else that is disturbing is the rise in separatist movements, particularly in the Xingjiang, and Xizang areas. The kultural revalution gave the muslims, and tibetans something they could believe in, in contrast to Deng’s ambitions of making foreigners wealthier. When your ideas are bad, it’s hard to get people to along with them, and that’s what’s happening in China today. Chinese leaders have bad ideas, people can’t get behind it. The dismisal of comunism in China has left millions broken, and lost. So they lose the loyalty and faith of not only the ethnic minorities but also the Han majority. Therefore it is no surprise that muslims, and tibetans find themselves unsuspectingly revolting against China, and through many proxies, on behalf of the west. Today, it is patriotism that has been contained, largely because the Chinese leaders’ loyalties have shifted from China, to the west. Therefore, the separatism in China serves as a reflection to the traitorous policies of the leaders who succeeded Mao who have worked hard to pillage China, and making foreigners wealthier.

    China’s gun control laws don’t make China safe, and people need to take another look at why China is so much less safe today that it was in 1966. Simplay claiming that China is safer than the west only masks the problem that China is facing. Crime has been rising consistently since 1978, and will continue to do so with the far right politics that China is imposing upon the people. The revisionists also need to reflect upon themselves on whether or not they’re taking China in the wrong direction, and all the problems kapitalism has brought to China in the past 40 years, partcularly the decline in Chinese people’s moral values since 1978. This is not only a concern arising from the left. Even those on the right will admit that people were nicer in 1966 than they are today. The only problem is, as with right winters, they are willing to accept chaos in order to get rich, but the question is, who gave these revisionists, and bourgeoisie the right to bring agony to the Chinese masses just so a small group of bourgeois parasites can get rich?

    The revisionists use their “economy” to confirm that revisionism, and reforms were justified. However, the crime, coruption, pollution confirms that deng’s reforms are wrong.

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    Hello, Mao-Zuo holdout.

    My entire family was basically wiped out by your precious Cultural Revolution of "high moral standards."

    Fuck you.

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  • ve1 says:

    china has failed at making an operating system, or even a web browser. you look at qq, 360, liebao, and sogou browser. theyre all based on chromium. making an operating system cant be that hard. linux was made by a student. the problem is, china is so interested in acomodating the west that china has failed at doing what is right. china has not given us an alternative to these fashist western os’s like android, windows, linux, and ios.

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  • T,T,,

    You are raising too wide a field.

    Why is a refrigator needing an LCD screen?

    To me, such things are very wasteful.

    Mine is old, almost 20 years, it is needing repairs this spring, but only because I was knocking it backwards in early winter, and it is nice that a repair service is still existing (of course, freelance). The repair will cost no more than a tenth of your new machine.

    What is a two-dollar shop? I would guess like a hundred-yen shop, only more expensive. What in them is made in Japan? I am curious. Am knowing of quite ingenious made-in-Japan products, beadcraft (DIY junk jewellery, very nice if one is having the time for it), a few tools, toys, in hundred-yen shops in Japan, almost everything else made in PRC.

    Quality goes beyond just motor vehicles, I have been happy with phones from Kyocera, trouble with an iOS or Android phone, the battery life is becoming useless within two years.

    So, google is controlling Android, apple is controlling iOS, there is no reliable way of backing up anything but the contacts list and file gallery. To me, that is a real problem with reliability, and is imposed by the thinking of the U.S. companies.

    End up (as I will, until I track down all of my files) dragging around an external power supply, which will itself wear out at almost, or even a faster, rate, and weighing almost as much as a super-light PC (including the ultra-mini Vaios of old).

    It is not reliability. It is determined by the U.S. monster corps, not by the makers of handsets.

    I note that the display on my Kyocera has a single very slight crack, from my having sat on it or dropped it once. Long enough ago to not remember which right now.

    Friends with iPhones have a web of cracks after a single such incident, their ‘Gorilla glass’ is just a cheap marketing ploy, but the cheap western press always was playing along.

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  • ve1 says:

    china is engaged in a lose lose situation. china is only allowed to sell cheap products to the west. china makes more expensive items, but these items are generally prohibited into the west. take for example, chinese sneakers like lining, anta, and 361. youve probably never heard of these brands, but they go for about $50us. chinese brands are generally not allowed to export. the only things that are allowed for export are chinese made products that carry western brands. for example, iphones that are made in china.

    on the other hand, the west sells expensive things to china. like for example, nike shoes. they are often sold at prices that are higher than even western markets. a $100 pair of sneakers being sold in toronto could very well sell for $150 in china. theres very little restriction on what the west, and their henchmen can sell in china. they can sell iphones, samsungs, nikes, and pretty much whatever they want. all the major hotel chains like hilton, and mariot operate in china. on the other hand, how many chinese hotel chains can you name that operate in the west?

    the general pattern here is the west sells expensive crap to china, and china is only allowed to sell cheap things to the west. notice how iphones, and samsungs flood the chinese market, but verizon, and sprint in amerika wont sign any deals with the huawei, or xiaomi. what makes matters worse is that the west doesnt even make these shoes, phones, and products themselves. they simply exploit someone else to make these, so westerners actually do none of the work, while making all the money.

    westerners make a killing opening english language schools. they charge top dollar to teach chinese english. china would never be able to make even 10% of this teaching chinese in western countries. once again, the west wins. can you imagine paying $1000 a month to learn chinese? because thats pretty much what the chinese are paying to learn english. it ends up costing a huge fraction on the local chinese salary.

    china lends all of its money to the west. whether it’s amerika, or europe, china is giving hand outs to these countries, all while there are chinese who cant even pay their medical bills. not only that, in order to prevent countries like vietnam from turning against china, china has to buy billions worth of their products.

    china sends millions of tourists and students to the west each year. on the other hand, the west sends not even 1% tourists/students of what china sends. droves and droves of chinese go to the west, and spend billions. however, hardly any westerners are going to china, and the ones who do, hardly spend any money in china.

    rich chinese exclusively buy imported products. all the money that china makes actually ends up going right back in the pockets of their inperialist masters. rich chinese also “invest” heavily in foreign countries. take for example how chinese “businessmen” bought the waldorf astoria, and amc cinemas. the money that china makes, doesnt stay in china.

    the west then uses all the money that the chinese give them to back the enemies of china. some of them include radical factions in taiwan, hong kong, india, and vietnam.

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    @bookish1
    You people just don't get it about Chinese and xtianity. You see xtianity is meant to be a world religion as the great gawd profit claimed. He said he is everyones gawd. But in order for xtianity to be a world religion it has to travel around the world. It started in the middle-east and made its way to Europe and then across the pond to the Americas and thats about as far as it has went. Xtian missionaries tried to bring it to other parts of the world but made very little progress. I guess they forgot to bring their swords with them along with the bible. Anyway for xtianity to be a world religion it has to cross the great pacific lake and consume the orient which it seems to be doing in China, maybe. So China's destiny is to take xtianity through asia and back to the middle east which will mean xtiaity will have made around the world and will be a world religion. Now 600 million Chinese xtian crusaders will take Jeruselum and the destiny of xtiany will be sealed and the prosephy complete. Why the leaders of China don't realize this opportunity I don't know. If China wants to conquer the world their is no better thing to use than religion since people will have no problem dying for their religious beliefs. A Chinese Xtian army of crusaders could conquer asia.

    i strongly disagree with that. in the long run, christianity will be abandoned, just like so many juz abandoned judiasm.

    china has missed the opportunity to make an alliance with the arabs, and muslims. let’s look at the facts, china’s closest, and probably only allly is pakistan, a muslim country. western inperialists are most afraid of a muslim, chinese alliance, and theres a reason for this. islam is probably the single most influential in the world. it’s the fastest growing religion in the west. in fact, if china appreciated islam more, they could advance their position in the world. the chinese need to study and learn from islam, and arabs. one of today’s china’s biggest weaknesses is nationalism. they want to unify the chinese around the world, but what these fools dont understand is that most oversesas chinese are anti chinese. china is also very weak in prapaganda. so no matter what they say, people arent really listening. chinese nationalism shutts out the possibility for chinese to learn from others. unfortunately when the chinese do learn from others, they are usually bad things. take how chinese women are now starting to wear sluty clothes. it’s really pathetic how china accepts, and embraces decadence. china is also embracing violence too, such as hollywood, and hong kong films. another bad thing they embraced is materialism. this is how you know chinese leadership is troubled and flawed. here they have some of the greatest civilizations on earth, and china ignores them. instead they choose to embrace western decadence.
    a more competent chinese leader would have to look at why, and how the arabs were able to be so influential in the world, and how their influence lasts thousands of years. islam, and the arabs have been the most influetial in this world. look at how islam has touched people from indonesia, all the way to spain, and back. and you notice how people stick with islam, long after the conquerers left. take iran for example. islam was brought to iran by force. this country was not originally muslim, but they stuck with it. you cant say that about very many religions. in fact, you look at christianity in europe. it;s dying out. even christians dont want to believe in christianity. thats what a weak religion that is. and you look at black amerikans, they are flocking to islam, and away from christianity. europeans are becoming atheist. children who were raised as christians abandon the religion as soon as theyre old enough to do so. this is a pattern. you dont really see too many muslims abandoning islam after they are grown up.

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  • ve1 says:

    china’s biggest problem was its departure from comunism. when they did that, they shifted their allegiance to the bourgeoisie, and away from the proletariat. by doing this, china has given all the benefits over to the bourgeoisie. look at how china lends trillions of dollars to amerikans instead of lettings its own citizens live a prosperous life. when you look at the foreigners in china, most of them look down on china. it’s almost like china has returned to the republican era, where inperialists had special privaleges. this in contrast to the comunist era, where chinese controled theiir own country, and foreigners couldnt just do whatever they wanted. back in those days, china would invite people, usually socialists, who were friendly to china. nowadays, china places business first, and attracts some of the dirtiest rats into china. china also buys so much crap from the west, that china is making the inperialists richer. the inperialists then use the money they make from china, and use it against china, by backing china’s enemies.

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  • ve1 says:

    china’s has done a 180, and it’s largely associated with the restoration of kapitalism. 50yrs ago, if you were greedy, and selfish, people would have criticised you, but they wont today. 50yrs ago, chinese people were fairly patriotic, but today’s kapitalist china has given rise to alot of anti chinese voices. there are lots of people who openly bad mouth china, saying that the west is better, and that china has low standards. 50 yrs ago, chinese people trusted each other. today, if you ask someone what time it is, there will be people scared to tell you, because people dont trust each other.

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  • @Duke of Qin
    God I hope not. The Taiwanese are a bunch of boring deracinate cucks who are happy to follow the West into oblivion if it means some additional status points for themselves. The Mainlanders need double down on the nationalism. Not the shitty "big state" nationalism of the Communist Party though (analogous to Putin's version of Russian Nationalism or even the dominant strain of American nationalism), rather the natural tribal racial nationalism of the Han people. Volkish race nationalism good; Imperialist boilerplate masquerading as nationalism, bad.

    mainland politicians are also generally followers of the west, theyre just not as bad as the twnese. nationalism has actually hurt china. the reason why china was so strong during the kultural revalution was because they practiced internationalism

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  • @Daniel Chieh
    I know Russians of all political persuasions. Yet, amazingly, not one of them feels persuaded morally that Chechnya or Crimea should not be part of their country(I'm sure some exist, just not in my circle). And yet you seem so surprised that Chinese of various political persuasions have equally little fervor in splitting up their country.

    Whataboutism is boring, so I won't go there. But it should be obvious that going around encouraging separatism in a country might find that idea rejected, especially separatism to create mutually hostile neighbors.

    One might even suspect ulterior motives there.

    i doubt it. when vietnam, and outer mongolia split from china, there was very little resistance from the chinese populace

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  • @A Currency Lad
    "No one is sure when it began, but the phrase “I’m having a bad China day” has become synonymous with the expatriate experience …"

    Related:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5jIB2UWK3U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2_L71lFItk

    the guys who made those videos are spooks

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  • TT says:
    @Che Guava
    TT.

    Firstly, I will say that when in Korea for a holiday not much less than 20 yrs ago (liking the place, so not the last), I was very impressed by the tech., both at the markets in Seoul and Busan (much pirate stuff, but also interesting products), and in the showcase building not far from the National Theatre of Trad. Performance.

    So, SK's good tech. is not new.

    As for Japan, I would guess from knowledge that there have been quality problems in some overseas sites.

    Still strong. You are probably using more made-in-Japan tech. than you imagine, again, I cannot go into details.

    Sony is an outlier, thanks to their unwise investments in U.S. media companies, it ain't Sony any more, the U.S. media companies control the whole thing, although parts are nominally indedendent, as long as they make a quarterly profit.

    Sony having been revolutionary in consumer tech., that makes me sad.

    Hope you are to read this. TT, main parts, but partial, sorry for late reply.

    Sony used to be my favourite since small starting from Aiwa & Sony Walkman. Its special, very innovative & best quality. But now i don’t see anything special. Their Vaio laptop used to be real gd, but no more.

    Toshiba now miserable, bought a US$3k fridge, look very old design but i thot good quality like previous one, end up many quality issues. Replaced with Samsung, $1.5K, wow very modern steel surface with LCD screen, ice cube making, quality very good.

    Only Toyota, Nissan cars are getting better.

    Now i use very few jp products, except $2 shop things. Even new Tiger thermal flask is getting poor design now.

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  • @TT
    Che, i understand what you mean.

    NEC is top technology company. NEC HK & Japan Tokyo office used to handle China market directly instead of setting a regional HQ in China, so that may be the problem.

    20yrs ago almost every consumer products, electronics, its Japan brands competing against themselves leading in every markets. US & European brands only few survive by niche technology.

    SK is non existing, so backward in everything competing on low price, only Samsung is better in Dram through strategic massive investment due to its very smart chairman Lee. Now SK is quite impressive, but they still lack talent to go real high tech.

    I found Japan is in a total declination from innovation, technology, design, manufacturing, quality, sales, price down to after sales service. This is a serious structural problem if not crisis for Jp?

    Could it due to very old aging work force unable to innovate & design new things with new ideas anymore, while fewer young people no longer interested in engineering (as its hard long work but low pay in Jp)?

    Also cost is high due to too many unproductive old senior staffs on top, with same old system of agents(for retired management) sucking too much commission, so young employees find no incentive to strive hard?

    Is outsourcing to Asean/China production causing quality problem? I knew many Japan production when transfer out from Singapore to Malaysia or Indonesia become bad, their management & engr are very bad.

    Now Yen ex-ch rate is high 112 vs USD. If strengthen to below 100 that will be bigger problem for Jp.

    TT.

    Firstly, I will say that when in Korea for a holiday not much less than 20 yrs ago (liking the place, so not the last), I was very impressed by the tech., both at the markets in Seoul and Busan (much pirate stuff, but also interesting products), and in the showcase building not far from the National Theatre of Trad. Performance.

    So, SK’s good tech. is not new.

    As for Japan, I would guess from knowledge that there have been quality problems in some overseas sites.

    Still strong. You are probably using more made-in-Japan tech. than you imagine, again, I cannot go into details.

    Sony is an outlier, thanks to their unwise investments in U.S. media companies, it ain’t Sony any more, the U.S. media companies control the whole thing, although parts are nominally indedendent, as long as they make a quarterly profit.

    Sony having been revolutionary in consumer tech., that makes me sad.

    Hope you are to read this. TT, main parts, but partial, sorry for late reply.

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    Sony used to be my favourite since small starting from Aiwa & Sony Walkman. Its special, very innovative & best quality. But now i don't see anything special. Their Vaio laptop used to be real gd, but no more.

    Toshiba now miserable, bought a US$3k fridge, look very old design but i thot good quality like previous one, end up many quality issues. Replaced with Samsung, $1.5K, wow very modern steel surface with LCD screen, ice cube making, quality very good.

    Only Toyota, Nissan cars are getting better.

    Now i use very few jp products, except $2 shop things. Even new Tiger thermal flask is getting poor design now.
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  • @myself
    also true that Malaysia is avoided recently because the Moslem arrogance of most Malays these days makes them useless as any kind of employees

    ____________________________________________________________________

    The irony is that, despite what the Koran says, Arabs consider themselves above all other Muslims, so far above in fact that they actively despise South East Asian Muslims like the Malaysians and Indonesians. Even Filipino Muslims have noted the Arab racial arrogance.

    So the Malays are at pains to become true fourth-class, practically sub-human Muslims, which is all they will ever be in the eyes of Arabs.

    Well, that is irony.

    I had some upbringing in S’pore and Malaysia, at that time, except for the nth. east of the peninsula, malays were normal. School-friends, I was welcome in the villages where my friends were living.
    Now I gather it is not so. As Lee Kuan Yew said, they increasingly self-segregate.

    If you are wanting the exact quote, look up his name and ‘self-segregate’.

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  • TT says:
    @denk
    Yes she's Swede, her Taiwanese hubby encourage her to take on this daunting task .

    Here'R some samples how she translate the martial arts,''

    the 18 palm attacks to defeat dragons


    “Nine Yin Skeleton Claw

    LOL !

    the 18 palm attacks to defeat dragons

    “Nine Yin Skeleton Claw

    ROFLOMA

    This show she lacked understanding of both English & Chinese for translation.

    降龙十八掌

    Its not defeating but to subdue the dragon. Palm attack is wrong for 掌. More appropriate may be:

    Dragon Subduing Eighteen Palm Strikes

    So goes the rest, muz have corrupted my most favourite sword man novel to a comical cartoons…Chinese novel cannot be translated this way. Best is leave as it is with hanyupingyin, like JiuYingBaiGu Zhua/Zhao with a foot note to explain the meaning once. 八卦掌 as bāguàzhǎng

    Give me if you have the free soft copy for some entertainment.

    What’s wrong with China? To have Laowai to translate their classic literature, corrupting the soft power. Yijing, Daoism, Fengsui, Laozi…

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  • @TT
    How would you translate 九阴白骨爪?I think its a Swedish lady who studied Chinese in China do that translation. You gonna taste how a Kwailo cook your favourite Chinese wok fried sweet sour ribs using a western pan & Induction heater with ketchup.

    Freq block, esp longer comment. Usually after 24hr ok again. So i need to keep short, else Ron get too tired moderating 100s juz default all mine into spam. :)

    [Actually, the problem is the automatic spam-filter, that apparently sometimes assumes that long comments with lots of links or foreign symbols are just spam and sends them to the spam folder. If that happens, just leave a much shorter note without links or foreign symbols, alerting us to the problem.]

    Yes she’s Swede, her Taiwanese hubby encourage her to take on this daunting task .

    Here’R some samples how she translate the martial arts,”

    the 18 palm attacks to defeat dragons

    “Nine Yin Skeleton Claw

    LOL !

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    the 18 palm attacks to defeat dragons

    “Nine Yin Skeleton Claw
     

    ROFLOMA

    This show she lacked understanding of both English & Chinese for translation.

    降龙十八掌

    Its not defeating but to subdue the dragon. Palm attack is wrong for 掌. More appropriate may be:

    Dragon Subduing Eighteen Palm Strikes

    So goes the rest, muz have corrupted my most favourite sword man novel to a comical cartoons...Chinese novel cannot be translated this way. Best is leave as it is with hanyupingyin, like JiuYingBaiGu Zhua/Zhao with a foot note to explain the meaning once. 八卦掌 as bāguàzhǎng

    Give me if you have the free soft copy for some entertainment.

    What's wrong with China? To have Laowai to translate their classic literature, corrupting the soft power. Yijing, Daoism, Fengsui, Laozi...

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  • TT says:
    @denk
    Afaic, Jing YOng is the best writer in Chinese history !

    His works are being translated into English, but I think much of the spirit and essence would be lost in transit . :-(

    I dont think you'r are blocked , Ron very seldom censor comments , let alone banning commentators.

    May be some software hitches some times ???

    How would you translate 九阴白骨爪?I think its a Swedish lady who studied Chinese in China do that translation. You gonna taste how a Kwailo cook your favourite Chinese wok fried sweet sour ribs using a western pan & Induction heater with ketchup.

    Freq block, esp longer comment. Usually after 24hr ok again. So i need to keep short, else Ron get too tired moderating 100s juz default all mine into spam. :)

    [Actually, the problem is the automatic spam-filter, that apparently sometimes assumes that long comments with lots of links or foreign symbols are just spam and sends them to the spam folder. If that happens, just leave a much shorter note without links or foreign symbols, alerting us to the problem.]

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    Yes she's Swede, her Taiwanese hubby encourage her to take on this daunting task .

    Here'R some samples how she translate the martial arts,''

    the 18 palm attacks to defeat dragons


    “Nine Yin Skeleton Claw

    LOL !
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  • TT says:
    @atillathegoththumper
    I dont know why you say german stuff is better quality than the japanese, japanese cncs cameras especially cars are much higher quality than the germans the land cruiser, lexus will go 500000 with minimum maintenance and are competetively priced

    If you ever drive both a German & Japan car you know the big diff. Those own German car will never buy a Japan light weight tin can car.

    Read engineering specs, you know which is truly superior. Mercedes Benz is true petrol economical (weight based) & solid in maintenance vs Jp. You pay cheap, u get cheap parts. Moreover, Lexus is more expensive vis a vis specs after changing the badge of Toyota, but no way near German quality.

    Land Cruiser may be good. In one test, Ssanyong 4WD(using Mercedes tech) could beat all including Land Rover over steep climbing. And Ssy is using obsolete Mercedes sedan engine 250E. That surprised all judges when they check power train.

    Only BMW is great for sporty driving, but maintenance sucked, esp 4WD tech acquired from Rover, its differential drive system may have design problem, at least in the one i have.

    These my direct experience, may be others have own opinion. Similar to all Germ vis Jp. Its precision & quality always impress me, even Braun shaver & Muhle/Merkur Razor. Siemens, Bosch, Volkswagen, Audi, Opel, Porsche, Adidas, SAP, DHL, Osram,….

    Japan has declined tremendously over last 20yrs. That’s why im asking Che what happen.

    Germany(80M population) export could rank world No3(near to US 400M pp), double of Jp(130M pp), there is reason.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/264623/leading-export-countries-worldwide/

    China 2,098.16B US$
    US 1,454.61
    Germany1,339.65
    Japan 644.93
    Netherlands 569.71
    Hong Kong, China 516.73
    France 501.26
    Korea 495.43
    Italy 461.52
    United Kingdom 409.4

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  • @TT
    Denk you mean 金庸? My favourite novels.

    But to compare it with China classic literature? Altho im quite illiterate in Chinese, their literature & philosophy are profound, like 国学,百家,孔子,孟子,禅宗...岳飞传,杨家将,...these are more inspiring. Jinyong novels standout bcos included 易经,五行,战国,etc.

    Don't worry for China, Xi already promoting Confucianism & TCM. Good enough for Chinese mind & body welfare.

    Problem is many are brainwashed by Western msm & CIAed Horriwood glorifying West values into believing: West is Modern, East is Backward.

    So many blindly follow Western junks to try appear superior against peers. Xtianity main attraction in Asia is this nonsense of West Value is Scientific, Asian Value is Superstitious.

    Im waiting to see when Pres Xi will drop its unfitting Western suits for Mao suit or 马褂 . Also change that Shanghai hairstyle of greasy black side combed hair. EU make a derogating joke about all Chinese officials standard hairstyle. I prefer a pig tail or shoulder length hair with 马褂 like 中华英雄, very stylish. Chinese should look like Chinese.

    im freq block, can't comment.

    Afaic, Jing YOng is the best writer in Chinese history !

    His works are being translated into English, but I think much of the spirit and essence would be lost in transit . :-(

    I dont think you’r are blocked , Ron very seldom censor comments , let alone banning commentators.

    May be some software hitches some times ???

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    How would you translate 九阴白骨爪?I think its a Swedish lady who studied Chinese in China do that translation. You gonna taste how a Kwailo cook your favourite Chinese wok fried sweet sour ribs using a western pan & Induction heater with ketchup.

    Freq block, esp longer comment. Usually after 24hr ok again. So i need to keep short, else Ron get too tired moderating 100s juz default all mine into spam. :)

    [Actually, the problem is the automatic spam-filter, that apparently sometimes assumes that long comments with lots of links or foreign symbols are just spam and sends them to the spam folder. If that happens, just leave a much shorter note without links or foreign symbols, alerting us to the problem.]
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  • @TT

    Chinese goods is beating Western, Japanese and Korean products everywhere, are you saying the Americans and Europeans consumers do not know what they are doing?
     
    Joe, this is far from true, i myself are frustrated with many China make goods that only allow me to use a few times or worst, not even once.

    Does it make sense to spend $5 for a China make that can't use, or a $10 Thailand make that last 2yrs, Japan $30 used to last 10yrs but now 2yrs, Germany $50 with great design that last till your grandchildren.

    I muz admit that China has make many things so cheap, some with reasonable or quite amazing good quality, that i enjoy much with affordability(even i choose the higher price products).

    But the cut throat competition for cost and rampant fake or counterfeit are flooding market with very bad quality products. You shop in Taobao should know, although its convenient & cheap, you might get a hammer that broken on first hit. These same mixture of gd/bad products are also flooding the world.

    Its still some way for it to reach even Singapore/Malaysia design & quality, let alone Japan/ Europe.

    Don’t insult your compatriots’ intelligence. The only stupid guy here is the only buries his head in the hole

     

    That's why we are here discussing openly, no need to follow same mistake the West make, refuse to wake up from their past colonial glory hubris whining how Asia steal their lunch with cheap labour. Germany is the only pragmatic realistic country able to recognize and remain the best without hollowing its manufacturing.

    In comment 370 below i said, its time China gov push for Quality now after all the pollution & junks sacrifice to keep break neck growth for sustain development & social stability. China has very steep learning curve, under most severe threat and restriction by West, but it has already passed that critical threshold.

    After the copy & paste 1st phase, now it has started R&D phase with some leading innovation, Quality is critical factor for it to reach EU/Jp standard. Korea development is a gd example. Only then China can really start the next phase of innovation to leapfrog everyone like Germany, but 10x capacity.

    China urgently needs to start going for high quality and customer relationship now as economy already reach sufficient level that failed State Owned Enterprise SOE that produced junks can phased out without destabilizing whole society. Every country went through this path, Japan was famous as日本= 一日够本 (product worth a day), but it embraced Lee’s quality theory to bcom top premium quality (declining now). The world incl you mainland Chinese are all too irritated by China poor quality products.

     

    I dont know why you say german stuff is better quality than the japanese, japanese cncs cameras especially cars are much higher quality than the germans the land cruiser, lexus will go 500000 with minimum maintenance and are competetively priced

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    If you ever drive both a German & Japan car you know the big diff. Those own German car will never buy a Japan light weight tin can car.

    Read engineering specs, you know which is truly superior. Mercedes Benz is true petrol economical (weight based) & solid in maintenance vs Jp. You pay cheap, u get cheap parts. Moreover, Lexus is more expensive vis a vis specs after changing the badge of Toyota, but no way near German quality.

    Land Cruiser may be good. In one test, Ssanyong 4WD(using Mercedes tech) could beat all including Land Rover over steep climbing. And Ssy is using obsolete Mercedes sedan engine 250E. That surprised all judges when they check power train.

    Only BMW is great for sporty driving, but maintenance sucked, esp 4WD tech acquired from Rover, its differential drive system may have design problem, at least in the one i have.

    These my direct experience, may be others have own opinion. Similar to all Germ vis Jp. Its precision & quality always impress me, even Braun shaver & Muhle/Merkur Razor. Siemens, Bosch, Volkswagen, Audi, Opel, Porsche, Adidas, SAP, DHL, Osram,....

    Japan has declined tremendously over last 20yrs. That's why im asking Che what happen.

    Germany(80M population) export could rank world No3(near to US 400M pp), double of Jp(130M pp), there is reason.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/264623/leading-export-countries-worldwide/

    China 2,098.16B US$
    US 1,454.61
    Germany1,339.65
    Japan 644.93
    Netherlands 569.71
    Hong Kong, China 516.73
    France 501.26
    Korea 495.43
    Italy 461.52
    United Kingdom 409.4
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  • TT says:
    @denk
    Do you read JIng Yong ?
    He should be feted as a national treasure. !
    Jing's books entertain and inspire billions of Chinese worldwide, its about love, filial piety, camaraderie, kindness, protecting the weak against the strong....his works all brimming with positive energies and its damn good read as well !

    China needs all the 正能量,positive energy it can get, Jing should be in compulsory syllabus for Chinese schools, but then as we all know, anything that you need to study soon become a bore , so it defeats the purpose !

    The next best thing is, promote Jing's masterpiece alongside with the classics , Romance of the three kingdoms, Rebels of the water margin etc etc.
    It'd do wonders to the Chinese psyche and make China
    a truly humane society.

    Denk you mean 金庸? My favourite novels.

    But to compare it with China classic literature? Altho im quite illiterate in Chinese, their literature & philosophy are profound, like 国学,百家,孔子,孟子,禅宗…岳飞传,杨家将,…these are more inspiring. Jinyong novels standout bcos included 易经,五行,战国,etc.

    Don’t worry for China, Xi already promoting Confucianism & TCM. Good enough for Chinese mind & body welfare.

    Problem is many are brainwashed by Western msm & CIAed Horriwood glorifying West values into believing: West is Modern, East is Backward.

    So many blindly follow Western junks to try appear superior against peers. Xtianity main attraction in Asia is this nonsense of West Value is Scientific, Asian Value is Superstitious.

    Im waiting to see when Pres Xi will drop its unfitting Western suits for Mao suit or 马褂 . Also change that Shanghai hairstyle of greasy black side combed hair. EU make a derogating joke about all Chinese officials standard hairstyle. I prefer a pig tail or shoulder length hair with 马褂 like 中华英雄, very stylish. Chinese should look like Chinese.

    im freq block, can’t comment.

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    Afaic, Jing YOng is the best writer in Chinese history !

    His works are being translated into English, but I think much of the spirit and essence would be lost in transit . :-(

    I dont think you'r are blocked , Ron very seldom censor comments , let alone banning commentators.

    May be some software hitches some times ???
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  • @Wizard of Oz
    But aren't America's evangelical Zionists a bizarre American peculiarity? And if they evangelise as missionaries in China are they really likely to turn sensible Chinese minds to such lunacy? Hasn't some cynic written "In Praise of the Rice Christians"? :-)

    I am afraid “Christian Zionism” among evangelicals is pretty common. And yes, I don’t see why the converted in China will not embrace it as others have elsewhere.

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  • @Astuteobservor II
    it is never stupid to prepare for war. I think the 250 nukes china have is too small of a deterrent vs the current retards in the usa who thinks usa can win a nuclear war due to china's small number of nukes.

    get ICBM with MIRV to 500 count. no more hot war. they may think usa can survive 50 nukes but not 500 nukes raining down. china should do this for world peace, so retards like that would not start a nuclear war.

    It’s too small if it is perceived it is as too small.
    Thus it’s too small. Yes need more nukes and also need a conventional skirmish of some sort with a sufficient capable foe to show western naval assets will China’s anti ship missiles.

    Those from the “diplomat/wenhua” faction has control the script so far and all the appeasement moves have resulted with XJP getting his face full of eggs courtesy of Trump. Hopefully this approach has by now been discredited by now.

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  • @Joe Wong
    Chinese is going to work together with rest of the world to get rid of the the toxic, vindictive, cult, hypocritical culture and world order established by the brbaric White in the last few hundred years thru organized violence, lies and cult crusades and inquisition. Restoring basic decency destroyed by the White back to humanity is the responsibility of all mankind not just the Chinese.

    BTW, Japanese like the Indian are pitbulls created by the White to harm Asians, they have no identity, they identify with their abusers. Using a lackey as a precedent is showing the White's anxiety.

    I am Indian and I agree. I see no reason why India allies with America against China. We should make peace with Chinese and stop cuddling up to these bizarre progressive/xtian missionary countries in Europe and America.

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  • @Alden
    I read Jewish publications all the time They are always writing about how much Jewish and Chinese are similar. They praise Chinese woman Jewish man marriages as much as they praised Jewish communist woman black man marriages 60 years ago. They constantly write about the Persian Jewish trader colony in China that existed for centuries

    The Jews are looking to make their next historic jump and China is their target.
    It will be interesting. If the Jews manage to conquer China as they conquered Russia and America it will be proof that the God of Israel does exist and that Jews are his chosen.

    Senator Feinstein’s husband, Richard Blum was investing in the PRC as early as 1973. He’s made billions from those investments.

    “If the Jews manage to conquer China as they conquered Russia and America it will be proof that the God of Israel does exist and that Jews are his chosen.”

    Jews don’t like it when some goy thinks like they are thinking. The vast majority of the nations are already in their fold 95% – so essentially hey have proved to themselves that they are God’s chosen people. Time marches on, leaders come and go and the quality and character of leaders eventually falls to become as mediocre and amoral as the average citizen. While they cannot change because they have been chosen to be a holy people apart from humanity and must maintain their holiness and faithfulness.

    As Samuel Johnson wrote: “Great works are performed realized not by strength, but by perseverance.” so we have the steadfastness tenacity determination and solidarity of the holy chosen Jews on one side and the spineless goy morons with no character – only fake ethics and principles. Essentially professional con artists. So who do you think YHWH wants to win?

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  • TT says:
    @denk
    Do you read JIng Yong ?
    He should be feted as a national treasure. !
    Jing's books entertain and inspire billions of Chinese worldwide, its about love, filial piety, camaraderie, kindness, protecting the weak against the strong....his works all brimming with positive energies and its damn good read as well !

    China needs all the 正能量,positive energy it can get, Jing should be in compulsory syllabus for Chinese schools, but then as we all know, anything that you need to study soon become a bore , so it defeats the purpose !

    The next best thing is, promote Jing's masterpiece alongside with the classics , Romance of the three kingdoms, Rebels of the water margin etc etc.
    It'd do wonders to the Chinese psyche and make China
    a truly humane society.

    You mean 金庸?my favourite sword man novels, i had full collection in past. Its very addictive.

    But you’re kidding to compare that to Chinese classic literatures that are much profound. Even im quite Chinese illiterate, certainly 国学,百家, 儒家思想,….禅宗Zen, 岳飞传,杨家将 …are more arousing. Jinyong novels standout bcos he copied many classic literature & arts/philosophy. You probably find inside some 易经YiJin, 道家Tao, 少林武功Shaolin kungfu, 五行八卦,战国春秋, etc.

    Don’t worry for China, wise prez Xi already embarked on Confucianism & TCM. That’s more than sufficient for their mind & body welfare without conflicting with communism non believers. If Chinese study Confucianism alone, they won’t fall into Xtianity horror story of endless threat & punishments for total subordination to a violent gawd. CPC also promoting Han’s Buddhism. Original Theravada Buddhism is flourishing in Yunnan 西双版纳 now.

    TCM 中医养生学will solve all their widespread illness created by Western greedy drug giants. Organic farming will resolve food shortage & pollution problem, and remove one major cancer caused by Monsanto GMO beans & maze.

    Problem is stupidity of brainwashed Asian by CIAed Horriwood: West is Modern, East is Superstitious/Backward. So they embrace every Western junk including fast food, wine/beer drinking, English teas, aerobics, even Jp Korea Karate/Taekwondo, casual sex, feminism, LBGT, crazy arts..despising own superior culture juz to show they are upper class sophisticated.

    If you are self confident, you pick only the best for yourself. Who cares its origin.

    There is nothing comparable to Chinese tea art. British bought tea tree from China to grow in India/Celon to save $, but they didn’t learn the real arts of treatment. Try 普洱PuEr you will never drink Red Tea.

    With Chinese Shaolin martial arts, Qigong, Taiji, who need other monkey tricks(I tried many in young time). Chinese civilization is simply too vast, too profound.

    West technology is superior, British & Italian suits are great, German car best, Russian weapon superior, Samsung S8 good, Spore food excellent, Cuba cigar nice, ok, embrace and use it, don’t be stupid.

    Know what is suitable for oneself is best. Putin suits is impeccably tailored. Lee Kuang Yew used a cheap tailor in Spore, wear Casio $20 watch. American high rank officers are fond of wearing $20 fake Rolex watch selling in Lucky Plaza. PM May spend a bomb even on her hair. Who care.

    Im still waiting for Pres Xi to chge his non fitting Western suits & ties to Mao’s suit or MaGua马褂, put on a pony tail or shoulder length hair like 中华英雄,at least stop that Shanghai style greasy side combed hair, that German/EU minister made derogating remarks about all Chinese officials standard hairstyle.

    Every nations needs to find its own suitable life. But Uncle Scam want everyone to swallow its sewage culture is the problem.

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  • @attilathehen
    If China is going to get rid of toxic white culture they need to give up the car, telephone, computer, airplane, the list can go on and on.


    As to Japan, here is a history lesson. Japan invaded China during World War II. Have you ever heard of the Rape of Nanking? Japan has fought China and won. When Japan decides to start producing nuclear weapons again, China will tremble.

    Your jealously of India is evident. They have an Aryan past. Chinese does not.

    Damn, thats surprising, the cunt is correct, in her latest comment that is, 2000% correct :-)

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    please ignore attilathecunt,

    the troll isnt worth our time, I’ve consigned it into my bozo file.

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  • @TT
    Without religion, people aren't restraint and all hell get loose. To defuse that known time bomb, best way is to replace it with better one that it deems safe through natural process.

    Most told Xi favour Han's tradition Mahayana Buddhism as its heavily doped with Han's culture & wisdom, but there is juz chronic lack of good quality Mahayana monks. In fact most are corrupted gathering $ that their precepts prohibited. Once they touch $, all vices follow.

    So Chinese gov are supporting some good Theravada Buddhist monks to help reestablish Mahayana Buddhism, esp on the meditation aspect that Mahayana lack off.

    China think tank probably has studied all religions carefully to conclude Buddhism is the best for its people spiritual welfare and country stability.

    Btw, Buddhism is not a religion as it doesn't profess a All Mighty Creator God that transcend central gov power, but a teaching of Nature Truth that are in line with all Chinese teachings like Taoism & Confucianism promoting harmony with nature & society(hence the emperor).

    So Xi is indeed wise to fuse Chinese culture with Confucianism virtue social behavior and Buddhism spiritual development into its China Dream.

    Do you read JIng Yong ?
    He should be feted as a national treasure. !
    Jing’s books entertain and inspire billions of Chinese worldwide, its about love, filial piety, camaraderie, kindness, protecting the weak against the strong….his works all brimming with positive energies and its damn good read as well !

    China needs all the 正能量,positive energy it can get, Jing should be in compulsory syllabus for Chinese schools, but then as we all know, anything that you need to study soon become a bore , so it defeats the purpose !

    The next best thing is, promote Jing’s masterpiece alongside with the classics , Romance of the three kingdoms, Rebels of the water margin etc etc.
    It’d do wonders to the Chinese psyche and make China
    a truly humane society.

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    You mean 金庸?my favourite sword man novels, i had full collection in past. Its very addictive.

    But you're kidding to compare that to Chinese classic literatures that are much profound. Even im quite Chinese illiterate, certainly 国学,百家, 儒家思想,....禅宗Zen, 岳飞传,杨家将 ...are more arousing. Jinyong novels standout bcos he copied many classic literature & arts/philosophy. You probably find inside some 易经YiJin, 道家Tao, 少林武功Shaolin kungfu, 五行八卦,战国春秋, etc.

    Don't worry for China, wise prez Xi already embarked on Confucianism & TCM. That's more than sufficient for their mind & body welfare without conflicting with communism non believers. If Chinese study Confucianism alone, they won't fall into Xtianity horror story of endless threat & punishments for total subordination to a violent gawd. CPC also promoting Han's Buddhism. Original Theravada Buddhism is flourishing in Yunnan 西双版纳 now.

    TCM 中医养生学will solve all their widespread illness created by Western greedy drug giants. Organic farming will resolve food shortage & pollution problem, and remove one major cancer caused by Monsanto GMO beans & maze.

    Problem is stupidity of brainwashed Asian by CIAed Horriwood: West is Modern, East is Superstitious/Backward. So they embrace every Western junk including fast food, wine/beer drinking, English teas, aerobics, even Jp Korea Karate/Taekwondo, casual sex, feminism, LBGT, crazy arts..despising own superior culture juz to show they are upper class sophisticated.

    If you are self confident, you pick only the best for yourself. Who cares its origin.

    There is nothing comparable to Chinese tea art. British bought tea tree from China to grow in India/Celon to save $, but they didn't learn the real arts of treatment. Try 普洱PuEr you will never drink Red Tea.

    With Chinese Shaolin martial arts, Qigong, Taiji, who need other monkey tricks(I tried many in young time). Chinese civilization is simply too vast, too profound.

    West technology is superior, British & Italian suits are great, German car best, Russian weapon superior, Samsung S8 good, Spore food excellent, Cuba cigar nice, ok, embrace and use it, don't be stupid.

    Know what is suitable for oneself is best. Putin suits is impeccably tailored. Lee Kuang Yew used a cheap tailor in Spore, wear Casio $20 watch. American high rank officers are fond of wearing $20 fake Rolex watch selling in Lucky Plaza. PM May spend a bomb even on her hair. Who care.

    Im still waiting for Pres Xi to chge his non fitting Western suits & ties to Mao's suit or MaGua马褂, put on a pony tail or shoulder length hair like 中华英雄,at least stop that Shanghai style greasy side combed hair, that German/EU minister made derogating remarks about all Chinese officials standard hairstyle.

    Every nations needs to find its own suitable life. But Uncle Scam want everyone to swallow its sewage culture is the problem.
    , @TT
    Denk you mean 金庸? My favourite novels.

    But to compare it with China classic literature? Altho im quite illiterate in Chinese, their literature & philosophy are profound, like 国学,百家,孔子,孟子,禅宗...岳飞传,杨家将,...these are more inspiring. Jinyong novels standout bcos included 易经,五行,战国,etc.

    Don't worry for China, Xi already promoting Confucianism & TCM. Good enough for Chinese mind & body welfare.

    Problem is many are brainwashed by Western msm & CIAed Horriwood glorifying West values into believing: West is Modern, East is Backward.

    So many blindly follow Western junks to try appear superior against peers. Xtianity main attraction in Asia is this nonsense of West Value is Scientific, Asian Value is Superstitious.

    Im waiting to see when Pres Xi will drop its unfitting Western suits for Mao suit or 马褂 . Also change that Shanghai hairstyle of greasy black side combed hair. EU make a derogating joke about all Chinese officials standard hairstyle. I prefer a pig tail or shoulder length hair with 马褂 like 中华英雄, very stylish. Chinese should look like Chinese.

    im freq block, can't comment.
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  • @Joe Wong
    Chinese is going to work together with rest of the world to get rid of the the toxic, vindictive, cult, hypocritical culture and world order established by the brbaric White in the last few hundred years thru organized violence, lies and cult crusades and inquisition. Restoring basic decency destroyed by the White back to humanity is the responsibility of all mankind not just the Chinese.

    BTW, Japanese like the Indian are pitbulls created by the White to harm Asians, they have no identity, they identify with their abusers. Using a lackey as a precedent is showing the White's anxiety.

    If China is going to get rid of toxic white culture they need to give up the car, telephone, computer, airplane, the list can go on and on.

    As to Japan, here is a history lesson. Japan invaded China during World War II. Have you ever heard of the Rape of Nanking? Japan has fought China and won. When Japan decides to start producing nuclear weapons again, China will tremble.

    Your jealously of India is evident. They have an Aryan past. Chinese does not.

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    Damn, thats surprising, the cunt is correct, in her latest comment that is, 2000% correct :-)
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  • @Johann Ricke

    So, perhaps I should look forward to China showing how to modify democracy though Xi’s Mugabeesque move to permanancy doesn’t strike me as promising.
     
    Xi hopes to become a second Mao. He may end up being a second Yuan Shikai. Whether his place on the throne can be maintained will depend on the mettle of his factional adversaries. So far, they're looking pretty feckless. The real question for non-Chinese is how much blood and treasure this emperor is willing to sacrifice to annex foreign lands in order to etch his name on the list of China's great leaders.

    Xi hopes to become a second Mao. He may end up being a second Yuan Shikai. Whether his place on the throne can be maintained will depend on the mettle of his factional adversaries. So far, they’re looking pretty feckless.

    Could you share how did you derive that Xi hopes to be 2nd Mao, may end up as Yuan SK?

    According to an interview with Xi elder sister, Xi is among all siblings most non ambitious & power clinging, very blend type. So his father selected him to serve the country and requested the rest to migrate for safety. Reason been such Xi character is safest to survive in China politics, as no one feel threaten. True enough, he rise up well, but thru many hard works.

    When Spore ex-PM Lee Kuang Yew tried to size him up over lunch meeting after predicting he could be next pres, he remarked Xi is a very quiet man but with will of steel.

    During SCS crisis leading to potential nuclear confrontation with USN, Xi was conspicuously silent throughout yet in control. In last year India border crisis, again Xi is quiet. Everything is done thru Foreign office. So when one day Xi tell Trump or Modi FOff, they know its real serious.

    Xi exude confident and exert great influence thru his capability and performance to get consensus support from all party members & his people, without need of violent or police state. Even to abolish his term limit has not get any slightest resistance. They simply have faith with him.

    All these resemble Deng XP style, few words, real action, show result, influence thru having complete trust from everyone, unlike autocratic Mao. So Xi likely will do quietly and dissappear quietly like Deng & Hu when his present is no longer required.

    The real question for non-Chinese is how much blood and treasure this emperor is willing to sacrifice to annex foreign lands in order to etch his name on the list of China’s great leaders.

    Why a need to annex foreign land to etch? Mao & Deng were considered great leaders, but never need or have done that. By fulfilling China peaceful rise & dream of a strong prosperous country is suffice. Only US, UK, European leaders did that historically DNA is different.

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  • @TT

    Chinese goods is beating Western, Japanese and Korean products everywhere, are you saying the Americans and Europeans consumers do not know what they are doing?
     
    Joe, this is far from true, i myself are frustrated with many China make goods that only allow me to use a few times or worst, not even once.

    Does it make sense to spend $5 for a China make that can't use, or a $10 Thailand make that last 2yrs, Japan $30 used to last 10yrs but now 2yrs, Germany $50 with great design that last till your grandchildren.

    I muz admit that China has make many things so cheap, some with reasonable or quite amazing good quality, that i enjoy much with affordability(even i choose the higher price products).

    But the cut throat competition for cost and rampant fake or counterfeit are flooding market with very bad quality products. You shop in Taobao should know, although its convenient & cheap, you might get a hammer that broken on first hit. These same mixture of gd/bad products are also flooding the world.

    Its still some way for it to reach even Singapore/Malaysia design & quality, let alone Japan/ Europe.

    Don’t insult your compatriots’ intelligence. The only stupid guy here is the only buries his head in the hole

     

    That's why we are here discussing openly, no need to follow same mistake the West make, refuse to wake up from their past colonial glory hubris whining how Asia steal their lunch with cheap labour. Germany is the only pragmatic realistic country able to recognize and remain the best without hollowing its manufacturing.

    In comment 370 below i said, its time China gov push for Quality now after all the pollution & junks sacrifice to keep break neck growth for sustain development & social stability. China has very steep learning curve, under most severe threat and restriction by West, but it has already passed that critical threshold.

    After the copy & paste 1st phase, now it has started R&D phase with some leading innovation, Quality is critical factor for it to reach EU/Jp standard. Korea development is a gd example. Only then China can really start the next phase of innovation to leapfrog everyone like Germany, but 10x capacity.

    China urgently needs to start going for high quality and customer relationship now as economy already reach sufficient level that failed State Owned Enterprise SOE that produced junks can phased out without destabilizing whole society. Every country went through this path, Japan was famous as日本= 一日够本 (product worth a day), but it embraced Lee’s quality theory to bcom top premium quality (declining now). The world incl you mainland Chinese are all too irritated by China poor quality products.

     

    Joe Wong’s name is missing a “r” between the W and the O.

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  • @Che Guava
    TT,

    I cannot give a true and full answer, for obvious reasons of contract and honour.

    However, very impressed by S.K. tech. innovation, even when last there (some time ago). You will find that tech. from Japan is still in many places, but I agree, it is bad that most finished consumer products are made in China, Vietnam, Malysia
    etc.now.also true that Malaysia is avoided recently because the Moslem arrogance of most Malays these days makes them useless as any kind of employees.

    Che, i understand what you mean.

    NEC is top technology company. NEC HK & Japan Tokyo office used to handle China market directly instead of setting a regional HQ in China, so that may be the problem.

    20yrs ago almost every consumer products, electronics, its Japan brands competing against themselves leading in every markets. US & European brands only few survive by niche technology.

    SK is non existing, so backward in everything competing on low price, only Samsung is better in Dram through strategic massive investment due to its very smart chairman Lee. Now SK is quite impressive, but they still lack talent to go real high tech.

    I found Japan is in a total declination from innovation, technology, design, manufacturing, quality, sales, price down to after sales service. This is a serious structural problem if not crisis for Jp?

    Could it due to very old aging work force unable to innovate & design new things with new ideas anymore, while fewer young people no longer interested in engineering (as its hard long work but low pay in Jp)?

    Also cost is high due to too many unproductive old senior staffs on top, with same old system of agents(for retired management) sucking too much commission, so young employees find no incentive to strive hard?

    Is outsourcing to Asean/China production causing quality problem? I knew many Japan production when transfer out from Singapore to Malaysia or Indonesia become bad, their management & engr are very bad.

    Now Yen ex-ch rate is high 112 vs USD. If strengthen to below 100 that will be bigger problem for Jp.

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    TT.

    Firstly, I will say that when in Korea for a holiday not much less than 20 yrs ago (liking the place, so not the last), I was very impressed by the tech., both at the markets in Seoul and Busan (much pirate stuff, but also interesting products), and in the showcase building not far from the National Theatre of Trad. Performance.

    So, SK's good tech. is not new.

    As for Japan, I would guess from knowledge that there have been quality problems in some overseas sites.

    Still strong. You are probably using more made-in-Japan tech. than you imagine, again, I cannot go into details.

    Sony is an outlier, thanks to their unwise investments in U.S. media companies, it ain't Sony any more, the U.S. media companies control the whole thing, although parts are nominally indedendent, as long as they make a quarterly profit.

    Sony having been revolutionary in consumer tech., that makes me sad.

    Hope you are to read this. TT, main parts, but partial, sorry for late reply.
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  • You people just don’t get it about Chinese and xtianity. You see xtianity is meant to be a world religion as the great gawd profit claimed. He said he is everyones gawd. But in order for xtianity to be a world religion it has to travel around the world. It started in the middle-east and made its way to Europe and then across the pond to the Americas and thats about as far as it has went. Xtian missionaries tried to bring it to other parts of the world but made very little progress. I guess they forgot to bring their swords with them along with the bible. Anyway for xtianity to be a world religion it has to cross the great pacific lake and consume the orient which it seems to be doing in China, maybe. So China’s destiny is to take xtianity through asia and back to the middle east which will mean xtiaity will have made around the world and will be a world religion. Now 600 million Chinese xtian crusaders will take Jeruselum and the destiny of xtiany will be sealed and the prosephy complete. Why the leaders of China don’t realize this opportunity I don’t know. If China wants to conquer the world their is no better thing to use than religion since people will have no problem dying for their religious beliefs. A Chinese Xtian army of crusaders could conquer asia.

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    i strongly disagree with that. in the long run, christianity will be abandoned, just like so many juz abandoned judiasm.

    china has missed the opportunity to make an alliance with the arabs, and muslims. let's look at the facts, china's closest, and probably only allly is pakistan, a muslim country. western inperialists are most afraid of a muslim, chinese alliance, and theres a reason for this. islam is probably the single most influential in the world. it's the fastest growing religion in the west. in fact, if china appreciated islam more, they could advance their position in the world. the chinese need to study and learn from islam, and arabs. one of today's china's biggest weaknesses is nationalism. they want to unify the chinese around the world, but what these fools dont understand is that most oversesas chinese are anti chinese. china is also very weak in prapaganda. so no matter what they say, people arent really listening. chinese nationalism shutts out the possibility for chinese to learn from others. unfortunately when the chinese do learn from others, they are usually bad things. take how chinese women are now starting to wear sluty clothes. it's really pathetic how china accepts, and embraces decadence. china is also embracing violence too, such as hollywood, and hong kong films. another bad thing they embraced is materialism. this is how you know chinese leadership is troubled and flawed. here they have some of the greatest civilizations on earth, and china ignores them. instead they choose to embrace western decadence.
    a more competent chinese leader would have to look at why, and how the arabs were able to be so influential in the world, and how their influence lasts thousands of years. islam, and the arabs have been the most influetial in this world. look at how islam has touched people from indonesia, all the way to spain, and back. and you notice how people stick with islam, long after the conquerers left. take iran for example. islam was brought to iran by force. this country was not originally muslim, but they stuck with it. you cant say that about very many religions. in fact, you look at christianity in europe. it;s dying out. even christians dont want to believe in christianity. thats what a weak religion that is. and you look at black amerikans, they are flocking to islam, and away from christianity. europeans are becoming atheist. children who were raised as christians abandon the religion as soon as theyre old enough to do so. this is a pattern. you dont really see too many muslims abandoning islam after they are grown up.
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  • @Che Guava
    TT,

    I cannot give a true and full answer, for obvious reasons of contract and honour.

    However, very impressed by S.K. tech. innovation, even when last there (some time ago). You will find that tech. from Japan is still in many places, but I agree, it is bad that most finished consumer products are made in China, Vietnam, Malysia
    etc.now.also true that Malaysia is avoided recently because the Moslem arrogance of most Malays these days makes them useless as any kind of employees.

    also true that Malaysia is avoided recently because the Moslem arrogance of most Malays these days makes them useless as any kind of employees

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    The irony is that, despite what the Koran says, Arabs consider themselves above all other Muslims, so far above in fact that they actively despise South East Asian Muslims like the Malaysians and Indonesians. Even Filipino Muslims have noted the Arab racial arrogance.

    So the Malays are at pains to become true fourth-class, practically sub-human Muslims, which is all they will ever be in the eyes of Arabs.

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    Well, that is irony.

    I had some upbringing in S'pore and Malaysia, at that time, except for the nth. east of the peninsula, malays were normal. School-friends, I was welcome in the villages where my friends were living.
    Now I gather it is not so. As Lee Kuan Yew said, they increasingly self-segregate.

    If you are wanting the exact quote, look up his name and 'self-segregate'.
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  • @TT
    Che, but im seeing Japan consumer products esp white goods & other technologies are declining so fast in last 10~20yrs. Could you share what is happening in Jp?

    -The design of Jp make brands are generally getting very antique look unattractive now, ave tech, design not so good, reliability/quality problem, but expensive.

    Whereas Korea brands are becoming better tech, new modern look with innovative design, good features, gd quality, cheap. China brand is still trying to catch up, cheap but quality no gd.

    -There are continuous news that Jp factories are having fraud QC like false claimed specs of special Steel, cars,..

    -Jp Semiconductor used to be world No.1 largest, but now its like dropping quite low. Even Toshiba is selling off its Dram factories. Memory its typical Korea brand Samsung/LG/Hynix. LCD, OLED screen...

    -Why near total absent from smart phone & tablets market, except Sony but simply not competitive.

    TT,

    I cannot give a true and full answer, for obvious reasons of contract and honour.

    However, very impressed by S.K. tech. innovation, even when last there (some time ago). You will find that tech. from Japan is still in many places, but I agree, it is bad that most finished consumer products are made in China, Vietnam, Malysia
    etc.now.also true that Malaysia is avoided recently because the Moslem arrogance of most Malays these days makes them useless as any kind of employees.

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    also true that Malaysia is avoided recently because the Moslem arrogance of most Malays these days makes them useless as any kind of employees

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    The irony is that, despite what the Koran says, Arabs consider themselves above all other Muslims, so far above in fact that they actively despise South East Asian Muslims like the Malaysians and Indonesians. Even Filipino Muslims have noted the Arab racial arrogance.

    So the Malays are at pains to become true fourth-class, practically sub-human Muslims, which is all they will ever be in the eyes of Arabs.
    , @TT
    Che, i understand what you mean.

    NEC is top technology company. NEC HK & Japan Tokyo office used to handle China market directly instead of setting a regional HQ in China, so that may be the problem.

    20yrs ago almost every consumer products, electronics, its Japan brands competing against themselves leading in every markets. US & European brands only few survive by niche technology.

    SK is non existing, so backward in everything competing on low price, only Samsung is better in Dram through strategic massive investment due to its very smart chairman Lee. Now SK is quite impressive, but they still lack talent to go real high tech.

    I found Japan is in a total declination from innovation, technology, design, manufacturing, quality, sales, price down to after sales service. This is a serious structural problem if not crisis for Jp?

    Could it due to very old aging work force unable to innovate & design new things with new ideas anymore, while fewer young people no longer interested in engineering (as its hard long work but low pay in Jp)?

    Also cost is high due to too many unproductive old senior staffs on top, with same old system of agents(for retired management) sucking too much commission, so young employees find no incentive to strive hard?

    Is outsourcing to Asean/China production causing quality problem? I knew many Japan production when transfer out from Singapore to Malaysia or Indonesia become bad, their management & engr are very bad.

    Now Yen ex-ch rate is high 112 vs USD. If strengthen to below 100 that will be bigger problem for Jp.
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  • @Mitleser

    Germany and Japan had never been top world powers, or even substantial regional powers before the 18th century (in fact, the country of Germany didn’t even exist before the 17th or 18th century, Germans on the other hand, existed before that).
     
    There was the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation since the late 15th century.
    What did not exist was a German nation state, but the German country is as old as France.

    You are right. I should have used the phrase “nation state”. Or perhaps to be more precise, the “German Republic”.

    But the Holy Roman Empire itself was a multi-ethnic state that also included Kingdom of Bohemia, the Kingdom of Burgundy, the Kingdom of Italy, and numerous other territories (quoted from Wikipedia).

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  • @TT
    Read his comment 528.

    The real question for non-Chinese is how much blood and treasure this emperor is willing to sacrifice to annex foreign lands in order to etch his name on the list of China’s great leaders.
     
    Then again link this

    Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man’s Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands – it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.
     
    Not conquer, but first annex & then acquire foreign land.

    Thank you for reminding me of what he posted before. That comment (528) was inexcusable, and I disagree with that comment entirely.

    But still, judging by comment 548 alone, I don’t think he said China “wants to” annex and acquire foreign lands, he said China is given license and moral imperative to do so. I think there is a clear distinction there.

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  • @Astuteobservor II
    google shows only 24 ICBM capable of reaching anywhere in the usa with 11,000km range(not sure how accurate). with MIRV it should be enough for the sane people. not with the current retards in the usa and else where. china needs the capability to rain down 500+ nukes for the retards to stay harmless retards.

    I like peace. I am sure all of us don't want to die due to retards. china needs to do this for us all.

    Yes, google says that.

    In fact, the estimate for China’s ICBM force in 1980 was 20 missiles, all capable of reaching most U.S. cities. Not accurate, but with multi-megaton thermonuclear warheads, and since they target CITIES, enough for deterrence.

    That’s 1980! China was so impoverished and technologically backward then. 20 ICBMs was believable in 1980. 24 ICBMs able to reaching U.S. metro areas are not very believable now, 2018. Quite a number of experts say they have more.

    I think the current estimate is about 100 to 150 ICBMs, so what I did was I low-balled the expert estimate to come up with ~100 missiles. (Median estimate is ~130 missiles)

    Though I agree, 100 or 150 missiles is truly pathetic for a nation like China. Modern rocketry, unlike jet technology, was something long ago mastered by China, as was thermonuclear (H-bomb) weaponry and laser-inertial guidance.

    With those 3 technologies, even with no GPS whatsoever, you have viable very-long-range ICBMs.

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  • @TT
    Che, but im seeing Japan consumer products esp white goods & other technologies are declining so fast in last 10~20yrs. Could you share what is happening in Jp?

    -The design of Jp make brands are generally getting very antique look unattractive now, ave tech, design not so good, reliability/quality problem, but expensive.

    Whereas Korea brands are becoming better tech, new modern look with innovative design, good features, gd quality, cheap. China brand is still trying to catch up, cheap but quality no gd.

    -There are continuous news that Jp factories are having fraud QC like false claimed specs of special Steel, cars,..

    -Jp Semiconductor used to be world No.1 largest, but now its like dropping quite low. Even Toshiba is selling off its Dram factories. Memory its typical Korea brand Samsung/LG/Hynix. LCD, OLED screen...

    -Why near total absent from smart phone & tablets market, except Sony but simply not competitive.

    This is too late, but I was reading many years ago, many (more than ten) years ago, about some clever people in China setting up a fake NEC. They had a plush head office, and several branch offices.

    Since I love many stories by Phillip K. Dick, this was like one come true, fascinated me.

    They were closed down, but to make a simulacrum of a big corporation, and run it for some years, it is just like something from one of PKDs novels.

    Only, it was real.

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    "The West is nice now because it's exhausted". Your point is obviously not entirely wrong any more than your observation about our being a nasty species. But I think you are leaving out some huge factors.

    One is simply the supersession of Malthusian demographics over the last two hundred years. Remember that WW2 was made possible by birth rates that meant 2 million Germans and 5 million Russians were born in 1913. Not surprising that an old fashioned chap like Hitler thought the master race needed Lebensraum. Japan is not so exhausted thatit couldn't quickly carve out an empire somewhere that is badly run and no modern people want: say Somalia. But it has absolutely no need to think of it. An English cricket or soccer team could easily beat its counterparts of 1900, 1925, 1950, 1975.... but the prosperity that underpins that and the enjoyment the players' grandparents are probably getting from their performances means that there is no reason to lament the end of Empire.

    Another approach is that of applying Maslow's hierarchy of needs to explaining the changing behaviour of prosperous middle class people in Europe from early in the 19th century.

    I could throw in the theory that busy executioners up to the mid 19th century reduced the gene pool for serious nastiness quite a bit but I think I have made my point.

    Re: the executions part.

    Reminds me of a conversation I had with a Chinese friend.

    Me: “Is it true what unofficial estimates say, that China publicly executes maybe 5,000 people a year?

    Friend: “That’s absolutely not true!”

    “We publicly execute at least 16,000 people a year – and it’s not enough”.

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  • @Joe Wong
    Chinese goods is beating Western, Japanese and Korean products everywhere, are you saying the Americans and Europeans consumers do not know what they are doing? Don't insult your compatriots' intelligence. The only stupid guy here is the only buries his head in the hole with old days of colonialsim and cold war rhetoric instead of seeing the real world and pull himself up to compete.

    Chinese goods is beating Western, Japanese and Korean products everywhere, are you saying the Americans and Europeans consumers do not know what they are doing?

    Joe, this is far from true, i myself are frustrated with many China make goods that only allow me to use a few times or worst, not even once.

    Does it make sense to spend $5 for a China make that can’t use, or a $10 Thailand make that last 2yrs, Japan $30 used to last 10yrs but now 2yrs, Germany $50 with great design that last till your grandchildren.

    I muz admit that China has make many things so cheap, some with reasonable or quite amazing good quality, that i enjoy much with affordability(even i choose the higher price products).

    But the cut throat competition for cost and rampant fake or counterfeit are flooding market with very bad quality products. You shop in Taobao should know, although its convenient & cheap, you might get a hammer that broken on first hit. These same mixture of gd/bad products are also flooding the world.

    Its still some way for it to reach even Singapore/Malaysia design & quality, let alone Japan/ Europe.

    Don’t insult your compatriots’ intelligence. The only stupid guy here is the only buries his head in the hole

    That’s why we are here discussing openly, no need to follow same mistake the West make, refuse to wake up from their past colonial glory hubris whining how Asia steal their lunch with cheap labour. Germany is the only pragmatic realistic country able to recognize and remain the best without hollowing its manufacturing.

    In comment 370 below i said, its time China gov push for Quality now after all the pollution & junks sacrifice to keep break neck growth for sustain development & social stability. China has very steep learning curve, under most severe threat and restriction by West, but it has already passed that critical threshold.

    After the copy & paste 1st phase, now it has started R&D phase with some leading innovation, Quality is critical factor for it to reach EU/Jp standard. Korea development is a gd example. Only then China can really start the next phase of innovation to leapfrog everyone like Germany, but 10x capacity.

    China urgently needs to start going for high quality and customer relationship now as economy already reach sufficient level that failed State Owned Enterprise SOE that produced junks can phased out without destabilizing whole society. Every country went through this path, Japan was famous as日本= 一日够本 (product worth a day), but it embraced Lee’s quality theory to bcom top premium quality (declining now). The world incl you mainland Chinese are all too irritated by China poor quality products.

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    Joe Wong's name is missing a "r" between the W and the O.
    , @atillathegoththumper
    I dont know why you say german stuff is better quality than the japanese, japanese cncs cameras especially cars are much higher quality than the germans the land cruiser, lexus will go 500000 with minimum maintenance and are competetively priced
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  • @Snowman

    I’d call Xi a run-of-the-mill Chinese leader. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao must be kicking themselves for not elevating themselves to President-for-life when they had the chance. As to Xi’s ambitions, they are Chinese ambitions rather than a personal affectation. China’s not Germany or Japan, a bit player on the world stage for most of recorded history. China’s self-conception, reflected in its very name, is of itself as the center of the world – the sole civilization in a veritable ocean of barbarians. Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man’s Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands – it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.
     

    He thinks that China wants to conquer the world.

    You think that’s a rational reflection of Chinese thinking?
     

    That's not what I read from his comment.

    From what I understand, he says unlike Germany and Japan, China had been a top world power for millenias, which is what I also stressed. Germany and Japan had never been top world powers, or even substantial regional powers before the 18th century (in fact, the country of Germany didn't even exist before the 17th or 18th century, Germans on the other hand, existed before that).

    And consequently, China's ambitions is different from Germany's or Japan's ambition, in that China is not a "new-rich" like Germany and Japan, who desperately want to show-off and dominate and prove themselves. And that China prides itself over its high civilization, and wants to return to its former glory. That doesn't mean China wants to conquer the world at all. These are completely two different things. In any case, from what I understand, that means China does NOT want to try to conquer the world, like Germany and Japan tried to and miserably failed and brought terrible sufferings on its own peoples. Because Chinese people have more wisdom and experience than that, due to a very long historical tenure and experience as world's top power. And obviously, nowhere in his comments did I see the word "conquer".

    Germany and Japan had never been top world powers, or even substantial regional powers before the 18th century (in fact, the country of Germany didn’t even exist before the 17th or 18th century, Germans on the other hand, existed before that).

    There was the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation since the late 15th century.
    What did not exist was a German nation state, but the German country is as old as France.

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    You are right. I should have used the phrase "nation state". Or perhaps to be more precise, the "German Republic”.

    But the Holy Roman Empire itself was a multi-ethnic state that also included Kingdom of Bohemia, the Kingdom of Burgundy, the Kingdom of Italy, and numerous other territories (quoted from Wikipedia).

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  • @TT

    pride in China’s achievement in building nuclear weapons
     
    What would you expect from a nation that get constant aggression threats by many foreign countries including getting nukes by US during Korean war?

    Many Chinese appreciate Mao for letting China stand up. Deng for filling stomach. Xi for prosperity.

    How about superstition (though I know too much to brand as unintelligent the surprising number of high achieving religious people I know) and how about gambling for starters?
     
    These are deeply ingrained in majority less intelligent Chinese DNA, incl its overseas diaspora, they juz can't resist like fire to moths.

    Wouldn’t it be absurdly paranoid to imagine China seriously threatened today, or any time since about 1953?
     
    No, its a very true serious threats brewing for last many yrs. USUK are doing everything they could to undermine China. China will be naive to trust these vultures are pigeons.

    Deng was smart to apply 韬光养晦-to conceal one's strengths and bide one's time (idiom) to avoid USEu excessive attention to draw containment. Russia Putin make that mistake but China help shielded him from total containment.

    Now China has grown too big its not possible to conceal or afraid of been swallow up anymore, Xi decided its time to move on to next higher phase for China dream, that alarm/frighten the West much seeing China surge pass in every fronts.

    And BTW can any general case be made for giving control of navigation rights in the SCT to one country?
     
    China never make such claim, nor ever stupid to interfer any navigation rts in SCS that benefit it most. Its US overwhelming propaganda war to stir tension betw China & Asia, demonized China as a menacing bully.

    Didn't you noticed since 2017 every single news article about SCS carried on its bottom a standard template stating something like 5Trillions trade pass thru SCS and China is doing whatsover.... to subconsciously scare the world.

    China is contesting on:
    1. FON- A nonsense that USmilitary warship has been intruding many countries like Iran & even its allies territories 12 nautical miles. FON is for commercial ships, or due to some valid reason but with consent for military ships. Why US not try Russia?

    200miles is EEZ, Center line is between two countries borders when its narrower than 400miles.

    2. Its historical rights in 9 dotted lines & all spratly islands that whole world recognized until Obama trying to rebalance there.

    I have tried debunk the SCS myth here:
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-chinese-in-southern-vietnam/#comment-2197730

    There are some Western scholars and academics also pointed out these, esp all maps showing China owned the international recognized 9 dotted lines & its islands since 1800 or earlier up to 1950's Canada still printing such maps. So are Japan ancient maps. The world leaders know well, very few support the fake Hague ruling but some are toeing US war against China.

    Singapore KT Lim(i think she possibly a professor in marine laws) done an excellent job to expose Princeton Professors shameless lies about SCS judgements & US Jp Phip conspiracy. China should reward her for standing up against the lying world You can contact her facebook by KT Lim.
    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/did-the-ruling-sink-the-rule-of-law

    China has evolved to a stage that territory expansion by force is not in their textbook, knowing its reason how every empire fall. Their many ancient teachings on Arts of managing country sternly war Emperor from engaging any wars by all mean unless for defense, esp for useless border lands.

    Xi has been obviously practising these ancient arts & Confucianism skillfully.
    修身齐家治国平天下
    Cultivate one's moral virtue first, then regulate the family, and rule the state(country) before pacifying the country(world).

    Xi is ruling China now with many own enormous problems, there is no need to interfer the world like USEU so busy poking noses into other ass thousands of miles away to complaint its smelly, while own backyards are stink with sewage overflowing.

    Singapore KT Lim(i think she possibly a professor in marine laws) done an excellent job to expose Princeton Professors shameless lies about SCS judgements & US Jp Phip conspiracy. China should reward her for standing up against the lying world You can contact her facebook by KT Lim.

    Sorry, its KT Tan. My memory is declining… after too much time spend reading unz.

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  • @Snowman

    I’d call Xi a run-of-the-mill Chinese leader. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao must be kicking themselves for not elevating themselves to President-for-life when they had the chance. As to Xi’s ambitions, they are Chinese ambitions rather than a personal affectation. China’s not Germany or Japan, a bit player on the world stage for most of recorded history. China’s self-conception, reflected in its very name, is of itself as the center of the world – the sole civilization in a veritable ocean of barbarians. Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man’s Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands – it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.
     

    He thinks that China wants to conquer the world.

    You think that’s a rational reflection of Chinese thinking?
     

    That's not what I read from his comment.

    From what I understand, he says unlike Germany and Japan, China had been a top world power for millenias, which is what I also stressed. Germany and Japan had never been top world powers, or even substantial regional powers before the 18th century (in fact, the country of Germany didn't even exist before the 17th or 18th century, Germans on the other hand, existed before that).

    And consequently, China's ambitions is different from Germany's or Japan's ambition, in that China is not a "new-rich" like Germany and Japan, who desperately want to show-off and dominate and prove themselves. And that China prides itself over its high civilization, and wants to return to its former glory. That doesn't mean China wants to conquer the world at all. These are completely two different things. In any case, from what I understand, that means China does NOT want to try to conquer the world, like Germany and Japan tried to and miserably failed and brought terrible sufferings on its own peoples. Because Chinese people have more wisdom and experience than that, due to a very long historical tenure and experience as world's top power. And obviously, nowhere in his comments did I see the word "conquer".

    Read his comment 528.

    The real question for non-Chinese is how much blood and treasure this emperor is willing to sacrifice to annex foreign lands in order to etch his name on the list of China’s great leaders.

    Then again link this

    Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man’s Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands – it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.

    Not conquer, but first annex & then acquire foreign land.

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    Thank you for reminding me of what he posted before. That comment (528) was inexcusable, and I disagree with that comment entirely.

    But still, judging by comment 548 alone, I don't think he said China "wants to" annex and acquire foreign lands, he said China is given license and moral imperative to do so. I think there is a clear distinction there.

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  • @TT
    Che, but im seeing Japan consumer products esp white goods & other technologies are declining so fast in last 10~20yrs. Could you share what is happening in Jp?

    -The design of Jp make brands are generally getting very antique look unattractive now, ave tech, design not so good, reliability/quality problem, but expensive.

    Whereas Korea brands are becoming better tech, new modern look with innovative design, good features, gd quality, cheap. China brand is still trying to catch up, cheap but quality no gd.

    -There are continuous news that Jp factories are having fraud QC like false claimed specs of special Steel, cars,..

    -Jp Semiconductor used to be world No.1 largest, but now its like dropping quite low. Even Toshiba is selling off its Dram factories. Memory its typical Korea brand Samsung/LG/Hynix. LCD, OLED screen...

    -Why near total absent from smart phone & tablets market, except Sony but simply not competitive.

    Chinese goods is beating Western, Japanese and Korean products everywhere, are you saying the Americans and Europeans consumers do not know what they are doing? Don’t insult your compatriots’ intelligence. The only stupid guy here is the only buries his head in the hole with old days of colonialsim and cold war rhetoric instead of seeing the real world and pull himself up to compete.

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    Chinese goods is beating Western, Japanese and Korean products everywhere, are you saying the Americans and Europeans consumers do not know what they are doing?
     
    Joe, this is far from true, i myself are frustrated with many China make goods that only allow me to use a few times or worst, not even once.

    Does it make sense to spend $5 for a China make that can't use, or a $10 Thailand make that last 2yrs, Japan $30 used to last 10yrs but now 2yrs, Germany $50 with great design that last till your grandchildren.

    I muz admit that China has make many things so cheap, some with reasonable or quite amazing good quality, that i enjoy much with affordability(even i choose the higher price products).

    But the cut throat competition for cost and rampant fake or counterfeit are flooding market with very bad quality products. You shop in Taobao should know, although its convenient & cheap, you might get a hammer that broken on first hit. These same mixture of gd/bad products are also flooding the world.

    Its still some way for it to reach even Singapore/Malaysia design & quality, let alone Japan/ Europe.

    Don’t insult your compatriots’ intelligence. The only stupid guy here is the only buries his head in the hole

     

    That's why we are here discussing openly, no need to follow same mistake the West make, refuse to wake up from their past colonial glory hubris whining how Asia steal their lunch with cheap labour. Germany is the only pragmatic realistic country able to recognize and remain the best without hollowing its manufacturing.

    In comment 370 below i said, its time China gov push for Quality now after all the pollution & junks sacrifice to keep break neck growth for sustain development & social stability. China has very steep learning curve, under most severe threat and restriction by West, but it has already passed that critical threshold.

    After the copy & paste 1st phase, now it has started R&D phase with some leading innovation, Quality is critical factor for it to reach EU/Jp standard. Korea development is a gd example. Only then China can really start the next phase of innovation to leapfrog everyone like Germany, but 10x capacity.

    China urgently needs to start going for high quality and customer relationship now as economy already reach sufficient level that failed State Owned Enterprise SOE that produced junks can phased out without destabilizing whole society. Every country went through this path, Japan was famous as日本= 一日够本 (product worth a day), but it embraced Lee’s quality theory to bcom top premium quality (declining now). The world incl you mainland Chinese are all too irritated by China poor quality products.

     

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  • @TT
    Mr Deng had said it nicely, while we got destroyed by someone, they are not gonna get away without some punishment.

    A punishment beyond tolerable for entire world, even 200 is too many to juz self-explode. Realist China don't need number game as US vs Soviet, wasting immense resources on 15,000 each. But more realistic est is 400-500, with JL2, JL3 Submarine launch indestructible.

    Now US & Russia probably have less than 1000 workable warheads each after decades of deterioration. US is working on 3 nuke warheads renewal programs simultaneously, overload their single prog capacity. Russia declared complete renewal.

    China is buildg world most new Nuclear power plants now. cheapest way to get nuke grade for new design. Its only one with A-bomb now, a design diff from US/SU, long lasting type. Late comer bonus.

    Ex-com of 2nd artillery BG Zhu WH once warned Bush against starting a regional war to destroy China rising; "China won't fight a losing conven war, get ready to exchg hundreds of cities, and China will survive.". Then he shot down a satellite to prove what it means for US blinded war machines without GPS. World leaders gone panicked, the rest is history. Cities, you got it. Murkans most concern is own fat ass, not mercenaries military lifes.

    One nuke is too many for deterrent. In every US wargaming, its said red China-player always reverse loss and win by launching its Muderer Mace 杀手锏trump card...a unknown killer weapon hidden by mysterious Chinese that worry murkans.

    Its only one with A-bomb now, a design diff from US/SU, long lasting type. Late comer bonus.

    Sorry, i mean H-bomb, or Mega ton yield thermonuclear bomb.

    It was believed that only China still keep multimegaton-yield warheads on some missiles. These are small numbers designed as a deterrent against enemy cities. Single warhead 3Mt is sufficient to make US consider seriously the destruction & radiation fall out. However Russia has claimed several times last year it still possessed heavy missiles with a single warhead capable to wipe out a France or Texas area. India boasted to have H-bomb, but its ever highest yield achieved is 50Kt, far too low.

    Israel is suspected(sure) to own nuke, but never been need subjected to international inspection while Iran, NK are always been sanctioned & harassed by US.

    Some info copied elsewhere for those interested to know more:

    China development
    Chinese nuclear test no. 6, the first Chinese thermonuclear test with a yield of 3.3 Mt
    The People’s Republic of China detonated its first device using a Teller–Ulam design June 17, 1967 (“Test No. 6″), a mere 32 months after detonating its first fission weapon (the shortest fission-to-fusion development in history), with a yield of 3.31 Mt.

    India development
    India’s first nuclear test occurred on May 18, 1974. On May 11, 1998, India detonated a hydrogen bomb in its Operation Shakti tests (“Shakti 1″, specifically). Indian announced total yield of 56 kilotonnes [15][16] However, several independent and Western experts have reported lower yields for the nuclear test, and have posited that even the 50-odd kilotonne test claimed by India would still have been a very low yield for confirmation of a thermonuclear design.

    French developments
    Very little is known about the French development of the Teller–Ulam design beyond the fact that they detonated a 2.6 Mt device in the “Canopus” test in August 1968.

    UK development
    Grapple X Round C was exploded on November 8 and yielded approximately 1.8 megatons. On April 28, 1958 a bomb was dropped that yielded 3 megatons —Britain’s most powerful test. Two final air burst tests on September 2 and September 11, 1958, dropped smaller bombs that yielded around 1 megaton each.

    US development
    In 1954 this was tested in the “Castle Bravo” shot (the device was code-named the Shrimp), which had a yield of 15 megatons (2.5 times higher than expected) and is the largest U.S. bomb ever tested.

    The US arsenal evolved towards “counterforce” designed to destroy Soviet missile silos, and towards moderate-yield warheads to accomplish that job without releasing as much radioactivity, as a war with thousands or tens of thousands of these going off could inject a great deal of radioactivity into the biosphere.

    Soviet development
    The Soviets demonstrated the power of the “staging” concept in October 1961, when they detonated the massive and unwieldy Tsar Bomba, a 50 megaton hydrogen bomb that derived almost 97% of its energy from fusion. It was the largest nuclear weapon developed and tested by any country, but was far too large for military purpose to use as a weapon – even though it was dropped from an airplane in its lone test over Novaya Zemlya.

    Pakistan, Israel not yet detonated a H-bomb test. NK claimed so, but too small yield.

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  • @attilathehen
    China's not going to conquer anything. They have their own internal huge problems to deal with. It is the fastest aging country in the world. They have performed over 400 millions abortions since the 1980s. Xi Jingping's now dictator status is just a reflection of the Chinese character. The masses will accept this and do as told. The Japanese, who are smarter than the Chinese, were supposed to take over the world in the 1980s. The world didn't turn Japanese.

    Chinese is going to work together with rest of the world to get rid of the the toxic, vindictive, cult, hypocritical culture and world order established by the brbaric White in the last few hundred years thru organized violence, lies and cult crusades and inquisition. Restoring basic decency destroyed by the White back to humanity is the responsibility of all mankind not just the Chinese.

    BTW, Japanese like the Indian are pitbulls created by the White to harm Asians, they have no identity, they identify with their abusers. Using a lackey as a precedent is showing the White’s anxiety.

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    If China is going to get rid of toxic white culture they need to give up the car, telephone, computer, airplane, the list can go on and on.


    As to Japan, here is a history lesson. Japan invaded China during World War II. Have you ever heard of the Rape of Nanking? Japan has fought China and won. When Japan decides to start producing nuclear weapons again, China will tremble.

    Your jealously of India is evident. They have an Aryan past. Chinese does not.
    , @Anonymous
    I am Indian and I agree. I see no reason why India allies with America against China. We should make peace with Chinese and stop cuddling up to these bizarre progressive/xtian missionary countries in Europe and America.
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  • @myself
    Not concerned with John Derbyshire per se.

    However, it seems to me a significant fraction of especially older Caucasian males with Asian wives, are much more comfortable with the notion of Asia remaining poor, weak and subservient to the West.

    It does speak to some underlying, unspoken view of their own wives as not really partners, but rather "trophies" for the Victorious, Triumphant White Man.

    Thus the great unease, very soon shading into panic, at the rise of the "non-West".

    For Russia, Iran, India, Brazil, China, even Korea and Japan, and others, to rise and develop so rapidly challenges the concept of Western Exceptionalism. (Yup, Western and not merely American).

    There are plenty of those mentally colonized bananas, the separatists in HK and Taiwan amounts for tens of millions. The road to restore the dignity of the victims of the old days of colonialsim is long and hard. The unrepentant mentality of the White makes one wonders their genetic makeups.

    Japanese has no civilization, they steal and borrow whatever they see fit, they don’t treasure what the got, because it is not theirs, everything they have is disposable when time is right, this is historical fact. The Japanese does not see there is anything wrong to be submissive to the White, they feel right in it as an honorary White despite the White tell them they are an unnormal one.

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  • @ANON
    Oh dear, you have problems don't you. Anger management? I think Mao's Cultural Revolution might have been good for your apparent mixture of frustration, resentment and feelings of inadequacy exacerbated by career failures. A calming couple of years without electronic media back in China amidst peasants struggling with water shortages in the west might be good for your soul, and, in the end, your intellect.

    Which part of my of comment shows anger? Are you saying Chinese is not allowed to expose the White’s lies with historical facts? It seems you are same as the unrepentant war criminal Japanese, a history denier, a diehard Eurocentrist like John Derbyshire, a ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘Puritan’ like those White causing the Boxer movement. Poor native Americans, they don’t have any chance to tell the horror they endured under the hands of the psychopathic barbaric White and they are still being labeled as savages by their murderers, rapists and thieves.

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Thanks. I knew about Maro Polo but didn't know about John of Montecorvino as one of the very rare birds

    A National Geograaphic TV doco on China”s Grand Canal I’ve just seen suggests that , over a long period, there was much to dazzle Eurppean eyeds though it probably had its periids of neglect.

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  • @Anon
    They did get there.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Montecorvino

    They were impressed but not dazzled.

    Thanks. I knew about Maro Polo but didn’t know about John of Montecorvino as one of the very rare birds

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    A National Geograaphic TV doco on China"s Grand Canal I've just seen suggests that , over a long period, there was much to dazzle Eurppean eyeds though it probably had its periids of neglect.
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  • @attilathehen
    China's not going to conquer anything. They have their own internal huge problems to deal with. It is the fastest aging country in the world. They have performed over 400 millions abortions since the 1980s. Xi Jingping's now dictator status is just a reflection of the Chinese character. The masses will accept this and do as told. The Japanese, who are smarter than the Chinese, were supposed to take over the world in the 1980s. The world didn't turn Japanese.

    “The Japanese, who are smarter than the Chinese, were supposed to take over the world in the 1980s. The world didn’t turn Japanese.”

    Though you don’t sound rational, funny nonetheless.

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen
    Since you like being Asian, I hope you don't live in the West. If you do, leave. As to your relatives who married whites in Australia. If they still believe Asians are superior, you can take them and their spouses to whatever part of Asia whence you came.

    You seem to be a pathological Asian hater, often bragging your white IQ 90 and jabbing John Derbs imported Chinese wife & offsprings jealously.

    Been a unattractive (fat?)white woman with low 90 got nothing to do with obedient beautiful Asian women out competing you, its your feminism, gene & diet. Loose a few pounds by skipping dinner, go Korea has a good plastic surgery & behave lady-like gracefully to find a handsome Asian man will make all your life more happy than self-pitying criticizing Asians grudgingly.

    To leave, it got to start with all whites leaving US, Canada, Oz, Nz, South Africa ….as they illegally occupied others land by violent force.

    On the other hand, Asians in the West are welcome in legally by qualifying all stringent immigration requirements.

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  • @denk
    Here's murkkan hubris, hypocrisy at its finest.
    See how the sob Frank Wolf bludgeoned poor Gary Locke to take up the cudgels for 'oppressed Chinese xtians' !

    Representative Frank Wolf, a frequent and fierce critic of Beijing, who had asked Mr Locke whether he would worship at one of the underground churches.

    When Mr Locke attempted to elaborate, saying, 'how I practise my religion is not something for the American people...', Mr Wolf cut him off, raising his voice and pounding the table as he demanded a stronger stand against Beijing.

    'It is for the American people,' Mr Wolf said.

    'It's to stand with the dissidents who are being persecuted, who are being hauled away, and the American embassy in China ought to be an island of freedom.'
     
    What a shameless twit !

    hehehehe

    http://heresthenews.blogspot.sg/2011/03/obama-china-envoy-grilled-on-church.html

    Without religion, people aren’t restraint and all hell get loose. To defuse that known time bomb, best way is to replace it with better one that it deems safe through natural process.

    Most told Xi favour Han’s tradition Mahayana Buddhism as its heavily doped with Han’s culture & wisdom, but there is juz chronic lack of good quality Mahayana monks. In fact most are corrupted gathering $ that their precepts prohibited. Once they touch $, all vices follow.

    So Chinese gov are supporting some good Theravada Buddhist monks to help reestablish Mahayana Buddhism, esp on the meditation aspect that Mahayana lack off.

    China think tank probably has studied all religions carefully to conclude Buddhism is the best for its people spiritual welfare and country stability.

    Btw, Buddhism is not a religion as it doesn’t profess a All Mighty Creator God that transcend central gov power, but a teaching of Nature Truth that are in line with all Chinese teachings like Taoism & Confucianism promoting harmony with nature & society(hence the emperor).

    So Xi is indeed wise to fuse Chinese culture with Confucianism virtue social behavior and Buddhism spiritual development into its China Dream.

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    Do you read JIng Yong ?
    He should be feted as a national treasure. !
    Jing's books entertain and inspire billions of Chinese worldwide, its about love, filial piety, camaraderie, kindness, protecting the weak against the strong....his works all brimming with positive energies and its damn good read as well !

    China needs all the 正能量,positive energy it can get, Jing should be in compulsory syllabus for Chinese schools, but then as we all know, anything that you need to study soon become a bore , so it defeats the purpose !

    The next best thing is, promote Jing's masterpiece alongside with the classics , Romance of the three kingdoms, Rebels of the water margin etc etc.
    It'd do wonders to the Chinese psyche and make China
    a truly humane society.
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  • @attilathehen
    Since you like being Asian, I hope you don't live in the West. If you do, leave. As to your relatives who married whites in Australia. If they still believe Asians are superior, you can take them and their spouses to whatever part of Asia whence you came.

    Hey, sweet heart,
    I had lived in the West. And I’m a well read person.
    “As to your relatives who married whites in Australia. If they still believe Asians are superior..”
    Tell me why should people want to tag this or that ‘people’ superior or not ? Some ethnic groups have a bad time like the dalits in india or Shiites in Saudi Arabia; that’s due to historical circumstances, why label them as ‘inferior’ ?
    “you can take them and their spouses to whatever part of Asia whence you came.”
    Was it how you father treated your mom and take her to wherever without her consent?
    I suspect you were abused as a child, very resentful in personal relationship and I feel lots of anger in you. My sympathy as a fellow human being.

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  • @Snowman
    Like I said, I don't answer anon comments. If you want to talk to me, use your real handle. Otherwise I will ignore you from now on.

    This is my “real handle” for all intents and purposes.

    Like I said, no harm, no foul. Life is short– respond to whom you like.

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  • @Lin
    attilathehen,

    I'm amazed that you assume I prefer to be Caucasian if I've the choice. You're a very insecure person.
    Obviously you would like to be born with an IQ of 99 rather than 91 as Ron Unz estimated.
    My apology if I mistook you as hindu.
    BTW, deja vu ? You're a woman ? If I remember right,I encountered someone by that username at Robert Lindsay's blog.

    Since you like being Asian, I hope you don’t live in the West. If you do, leave. As to your relatives who married whites in Australia. If they still believe Asians are superior, you can take them and their spouses to whatever part of Asia whence you came.

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    Hey, sweet heart,
    I had lived in the West. And I'm a well read person.
    "As to your relatives who married whites in Australia. If they still believe Asians are superior.."
    Tell me why should people want to tag this or that 'people' superior or not ? Some ethnic groups have a bad time like the dalits in india or Shiites in Saudi Arabia; that's due to historical circumstances, why label them as 'inferior' ?
    "you can take them and their spouses to whatever part of Asia whence you came."
    Was it how you father treated your mom and take her to wherever without her consent?
    I suspect you were abused as a child, very resentful in personal relationship and I feel lots of anger in you. My sympathy as a fellow human being.
    , @Anon
    You seem to be a pathological Asian hater, often bragging your white IQ 90 and jabbing John Derbs imported Chinese wife & offsprings jealously.

    Been a unattractive (fat?)white woman with low 90 got nothing to do with obedient beautiful Asian women out competing you, its your feminism, gene & diet. Loose a few pounds by skipping dinner, go Korea has a good plastic surgery & behave lady-like gracefully to find a handsome Asian man will make all your life more happy than self-pitying criticizing Asians grudgingly.

    To leave, it got to start with all whites leaving US, Canada, Oz, Nz, South Africa ....as they illegally occupied others land by violent force.

    On the other hand, Asians in the West are welcome in legally by qualifying all stringent immigration requirements.
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  • @Joe Wong
    John Derbyshire is a classic history denier, a diehard Eurocentrist, and Orientalism believer. JD lies about the present, about the past, even about the future. JD is jealous, resentful and fear of China’s rise.

    Derbyshire has a Chinese wife and offspring. He is conflicted because of whom walks around his house, some Chinese people who he realizes are his family. Derbyshire’s writing is a strange variation of Christian confession. He is also an atheist. He is conflicted about this family, afraid of the Jews, and believes Asians are superior to whites. It is time for him to put himself away and quietly suffer from the sins of his choices.

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  • @Johann Ricke

    You raise the spectre of Xi as a megalomaniac who knows he must stay in power for another 15 years to guarantee that China is powerful enough to achoeve his ambitions.
     
    I'd call Xi a run-of-the-mill Chinese leader. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao must be kicking themselves for not elevating themselves to President-for-life when they had the chance. As to Xi's ambitions, they are Chinese ambitions rather than a personal affectation. China's not Germany or Japan, a bit player on the world stage for most of recorded history. China's self-conception, reflected in its very name, is of itself as the center of the world - the sole civilization in a veritable ocean of barbarians. Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man's Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands - it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.

    China’s not going to conquer anything. They have their own internal huge problems to deal with. It is the fastest aging country in the world. They have performed over 400 millions abortions since the 1980s. Xi Jingping’s now dictator status is just a reflection of the Chinese character. The masses will accept this and do as told. The Japanese, who are smarter than the Chinese, were supposed to take over the world in the 1980s. The world didn’t turn Japanese.

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    "The Japanese, who are smarter than the Chinese, were supposed to take over the world in the 1980s. The world didn’t turn Japanese."
     
    Though you don't sound rational, funny nonetheless.
    , @Joe Wong
    Chinese is going to work together with rest of the world to get rid of the the toxic, vindictive, cult, hypocritical culture and world order established by the brbaric White in the last few hundred years thru organized violence, lies and cult crusades and inquisition. Restoring basic decency destroyed by the White back to humanity is the responsibility of all mankind not just the Chinese.

    BTW, Japanese like the Indian are pitbulls created by the White to harm Asians, they have no identity, they identify with their abusers. Using a lackey as a precedent is showing the White's anxiety.

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  • @Jason Liu
    ‎✓ Disgruntled expat masking hurt feelings with cultural criticism
    ‎✓ Information drawn from outdated 1920s missionary stereotypes
    ‎✓ Unironic reference to Ralph Townsend
    ‎✓ Taiwan as a stepping stone for hating the mainland
    ‎✓ Someone screwed me in business now I hate China

    The only thing missing from Midler's resume is "ESL teacher"

    Listen, Chinese people are perfectly aware of Chinese society's shortcomings. The "Ugly Chinaman" trope -- deceit, corner-cutting, greed, face-saving, dog-eat-dog mentality that all stem from excessive materialism -- has been described in some form by Chinese commentators since at least the 13th century.

    Chinese people, including me, are often critical of these issues in private, but less so to foreigners. China has always been a harsh, densely populated rat race where being moral puts you at a disadvantage. I'm sorry a lot of foreigners didn't know this going in, but people aren't going to become nicer until there is a substantial period of wealth and higher living standards, like in Taiwan or Singapore. We don't need any more assblasted expats feeling bitter about every single thing in China. People like Midler writing this in 2018 should realize that this is the era when China finally starts transitioning to a nicer place.

    As for politics, I'm not convinced liberal democracy is a superior system, or even a lasting one. Even accounting for potential tyrants, the authoritarian state is still better equipped to rapidly and decisively deal with existential threats to the nation, especially internal ones. Equality other than basic legal protections is not desirable at all. Universal suffrage is the dumbest idea in the history of political thought. Freedom is hardly the most important thing in society, and even then most Chinese people do not feel unfree, because most people in any society don't intend on being dissidents. The major gripe about freedoms in China is not about any particular political topic, but rather the internet blocking of foreign sites that hold entertainment value (Youtube, Instagram, etc).

    I agree that Chinese nationalism can be arrogant and hypersensitive. Angry nationalists should tone it down and ask whether or not hating some other country/group actually benefits China. Most of the hate directed at our neighbors is pointless, counterproductive, just pride for the sake of pride. However, after living in the west, I firmly believe that nationalism is basically a positive thing for humanity, despite its excesses. Tribal feeling and the friendly competition that results is the greatest engine of true progress ever known. Given a choice between the west's self-loathing "open society" and China's current system, I'd pick the nationalist autocracy any day.

    Excellent riposte to [the description of] Midler’s book. I’m reading it now – about half way through and I am quite enjoying it even though I get the feeling I don’t much like the author. Too US neocon for my liking.

    However, he’s clearly very intelligent and very experienced in doing business in China at high levels. His opinions, making due allowance for American neocon biases, have weight behind them.

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  • @Anon
    I don't care particularly, it just seemed that your comment had not much of a point, and it struck me that as it appeared to me (due to whatever deficit of perception on my part) it might to others as well, and you might want to address that. But no harm, no foul.

    Like I said, I don’t answer anon comments. If you want to talk to me, use your real handle. Otherwise I will ignore you from now on.

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    This is my "real handle" for all intents and purposes.

    Like I said, no harm, no foul. Life is short-- respond to whom you like.
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  • @Daniel Chieh
    He thinks that China wants to conquer the world.

    You think that's a rational reflection of Chinese thinking?

    :P

    I’d call Xi a run-of-the-mill Chinese leader. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao must be kicking themselves for not elevating themselves to President-for-life when they had the chance. As to Xi’s ambitions, they are Chinese ambitions rather than a personal affectation. China’s not Germany or Japan, a bit player on the world stage for most of recorded history. China’s self-conception, reflected in its very name, is of itself as the center of the world – the sole civilization in a veritable ocean of barbarians. Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man’s Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands – it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.

    He thinks that China wants to conquer the world.

    You think that’s a rational reflection of Chinese thinking?

    That’s not what I read from his comment.

    From what I understand, he says unlike Germany and Japan, China had been a top world power for millenias, which is what I also stressed. Germany and Japan had never been top world powers, or even substantial regional powers before the 18th century (in fact, the country of Germany didn’t even exist before the 17th or 18th century, Germans on the other hand, existed before that).

    And consequently, China’s ambitions is different from Germany’s or Japan’s ambition, in that China is not a “new-rich” like Germany and Japan, who desperately want to show-off and dominate and prove themselves. And that China prides itself over its high civilization, and wants to return to its former glory. That doesn’t mean China wants to conquer the world at all. These are completely two different things. In any case, from what I understand, that means China does NOT want to try to conquer the world, like Germany and Japan tried to and miserably failed and brought terrible sufferings on its own peoples. Because Chinese people have more wisdom and experience than that, due to a very long historical tenure and experience as world’s top power. And obviously, nowhere in his comments did I see the word “conquer”.

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    • Replies: @TT
    Read his comment 528.

    The real question for non-Chinese is how much blood and treasure this emperor is willing to sacrifice to annex foreign lands in order to etch his name on the list of China’s great leaders.
     
    Then again link this

    Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man’s Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands – it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.
     
    Not conquer, but first annex & then acquire foreign land.
    , @Mitleser

    Germany and Japan had never been top world powers, or even substantial regional powers before the 18th century (in fact, the country of Germany didn’t even exist before the 17th or 18th century, Germans on the other hand, existed before that).
     
    There was the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation since the late 15th century.
    What did not exist was a German nation state, but the German country is as old as France.
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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Thousands of years of mission civilatrice which you appear to endorse as a reasonable self image is not quite what my recent reading supports. While the Egyptian and Mesopotamian (and maybe Indus) great periods had ended, the Chinese Warring States Period coincided with growth of Hellenism and ended with the utter barbarity of the first emperor and his son before Han rule began about 205 BC. It appears that it was from Greek models that the form of the Xian army of soldiers as individual statues was taken. It is surely only from about 600 or 700 AD until - with Mongol interposition - about 1430 that China was a civilisation to dazzle Western eyes (if they had got there).
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    Thanks. I knew about Maro Polo but didn't know about John of Montecorvino as one of the very rare birds
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  • @Johann Ricke

    You raise the spectre of Xi as a megalomaniac who knows he must stay in power for another 15 years to guarantee that China is powerful enough to achoeve his ambitions.
     
    I'd call Xi a run-of-the-mill Chinese leader. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao must be kicking themselves for not elevating themselves to President-for-life when they had the chance. As to Xi's ambitions, they are Chinese ambitions rather than a personal affectation. China's not Germany or Japan, a bit player on the world stage for most of recorded history. China's self-conception, reflected in its very name, is of itself as the center of the world - the sole civilization in a veritable ocean of barbarians. Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man's Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands - it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.

    Thousands of years of mission civilatrice which you appear to endorse as a reasonable self image is not quite what my recent reading supports. While the Egyptian and Mesopotamian (and maybe Indus) great periods had ended, the Chinese Warring States Period coincided with growth of Hellenism and ended with the utter barbarity of the first emperor and his son before Han rule began about 205 BC. It appears that it was from Greek models that the form of the Xian army of soldiers as individual statues was taken. It is surely only from about 600 or 700 AD until – with Mongol interposition – about 1430 that China was a civilisation to dazzle Western eyes (if they had got there).

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    They did get there.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Montecorvino

    They were impressed but not dazzled.
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  • @TT

    pride in China’s achievement in building nuclear weapons
     
    What would you expect from a nation that get constant aggression threats by many foreign countries including getting nukes by US during Korean war?

    Many Chinese appreciate Mao for letting China stand up. Deng for filling stomach. Xi for prosperity.

    How about superstition (though I know too much to brand as unintelligent the surprising number of high achieving religious people I know) and how about gambling for starters?
     
    These are deeply ingrained in majority less intelligent Chinese DNA, incl its overseas diaspora, they juz can't resist like fire to moths.

    Wouldn’t it be absurdly paranoid to imagine China seriously threatened today, or any time since about 1953?
     
    No, its a very true serious threats brewing for last many yrs. USUK are doing everything they could to undermine China. China will be naive to trust these vultures are pigeons.

    Deng was smart to apply 韬光养晦-to conceal one's strengths and bide one's time (idiom) to avoid USEu excessive attention to draw containment. Russia Putin make that mistake but China help shielded him from total containment.

    Now China has grown too big its not possible to conceal or afraid of been swallow up anymore, Xi decided its time to move on to next higher phase for China dream, that alarm/frighten the West much seeing China surge pass in every fronts.

    And BTW can any general case be made for giving control of navigation rights in the SCT to one country?
     
    China never make such claim, nor ever stupid to interfer any navigation rts in SCS that benefit it most. Its US overwhelming propaganda war to stir tension betw China & Asia, demonized China as a menacing bully.

    Didn't you noticed since 2017 every single news article about SCS carried on its bottom a standard template stating something like 5Trillions trade pass thru SCS and China is doing whatsover.... to subconsciously scare the world.

    China is contesting on:
    1. FON- A nonsense that USmilitary warship has been intruding many countries like Iran & even its allies territories 12 nautical miles. FON is for commercial ships, or due to some valid reason but with consent for military ships. Why US not try Russia?

    200miles is EEZ, Center line is between two countries borders when its narrower than 400miles.

    2. Its historical rights in 9 dotted lines & all spratly islands that whole world recognized until Obama trying to rebalance there.

    I have tried debunk the SCS myth here:
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-chinese-in-southern-vietnam/#comment-2197730

    There are some Western scholars and academics also pointed out these, esp all maps showing China owned the international recognized 9 dotted lines & its islands since 1800 or earlier up to 1950's Canada still printing such maps. So are Japan ancient maps. The world leaders know well, very few support the fake Hague ruling but some are toeing US war against China.

    Singapore KT Lim(i think she possibly a professor in marine laws) done an excellent job to expose Princeton Professors shameless lies about SCS judgements & US Jp Phip conspiracy. China should reward her for standing up against the lying world You can contact her facebook by KT Lim.
    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/did-the-ruling-sink-the-rule-of-law

    China has evolved to a stage that territory expansion by force is not in their textbook, knowing its reason how every empire fall. Their many ancient teachings on Arts of managing country sternly war Emperor from engaging any wars by all mean unless for defense, esp for useless border lands.

    Xi has been obviously practising these ancient arts & Confucianism skillfully.
    修身齐家治国平天下
    Cultivate one's moral virtue first, then regulate the family, and rule the state(country) before pacifying the country(world).

    Xi is ruling China now with many own enormous problems, there is no need to interfer the world like USEU so busy poking noses into other ass thousands of miles away to complaint its smelly, while own backyards are stink with sewage overflowing.

    You have added much interesting information which I hope to follow up. That said, let me add my own take on the SCS controversy. First that it should be unimportant in practice (although allowing China to bully neighbours much as the US does). [Contrast and compare Canada and Taiwan in relation to their relations with the US and China respectively I toss in. The Phillipines could be Columbia say.]
    Second that most of the trade and shipping in the SCS is going to and from China; and that to send trade with Korea and Japan to the East of the Phillipines would not be earth shattering in its impact.

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  • @Snowman
    Agreed. You seem to have a very good understanding of the Chinese way of thinking.

    He thinks that China wants to conquer the world.

    You think that’s a rational reflection of Chinese thinking?

    :P

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    I’d call Xi a run-of-the-mill Chinese leader. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao must be kicking themselves for not elevating themselves to President-for-life when they had the chance. As to Xi’s ambitions, they are Chinese ambitions rather than a personal affectation. China’s not Germany or Japan, a bit player on the world stage for most of recorded history. China’s self-conception, reflected in its very name, is of itself as the center of the world – the sole civilization in a veritable ocean of barbarians. Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man’s Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands – it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.
     

    He thinks that China wants to conquer the world.

    You think that’s a rational reflection of Chinese thinking?
     

    That's not what I read from his comment.

    From what I understand, he says unlike Germany and Japan, China had been a top world power for millenias, which is what I also stressed. Germany and Japan had never been top world powers, or even substantial regional powers before the 18th century (in fact, the country of Germany didn't even exist before the 17th or 18th century, Germans on the other hand, existed before that).

    And consequently, China's ambitions is different from Germany's or Japan's ambition, in that China is not a "new-rich" like Germany and Japan, who desperately want to show-off and dominate and prove themselves. And that China prides itself over its high civilization, and wants to return to its former glory. That doesn't mean China wants to conquer the world at all. These are completely two different things. In any case, from what I understand, that means China does NOT want to try to conquer the world, like Germany and Japan tried to and miserably failed and brought terrible sufferings on its own peoples. Because Chinese people have more wisdom and experience than that, due to a very long historical tenure and experience as world's top power. And obviously, nowhere in his comments did I see the word "conquer".

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Would it not have been almost insane in the 1990s to propose as realistic a possible major war (with or without nuclear weapons) between China and the USA. Even the loons who thought America could effectually govern Iraq wouldn't have proposed allowing US forces to get bogged down in China or seen it as acceptable to risk even one Chinese nuclear weapon killing Americans in America. But now??? I would be almost as confident except that Trump's tweets and White House revolving chaos leave a 5 per cent doubt, which, if an accurate assessment, is horrifying, and, if not accurate and vastly overstated, is still a reason for deploring the behaviour of Ameriva's political class, including the President.

    there are alot of online crazies posting about how usa can survive 50+ nukes and still be a super power and be set back only 10-20 years of progress. this is how crazy, naive and stupid they are. they have reached even the super serious forums I visit. it is why I have taken them seriously since 2017.

    that is what china needs to safeguard against. china needs to take this seriously. china needs 5x the current ICBM numbers. china needs to do this so we can all live in peace.

    I don’t want to chance it, not this.

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  • @myself
    The official published estimate of China's nuclear force is 100 ICBMs, many road- and rail-mobile, many with multiple warheads.

    That's the official version. Still a force basically impossible to preemptively knock out and prevent from destroying the U.S. in a retaliatory strike.

    Note that China aims no weapons at military targets - all Chinese weapons are aimed only at cities. They are not going to play games with limited nuclear war, beyond a certain threshold of nuclear weapons use by the enemy, they will let fly with everything, basically making sure everyone loses.

    But I do agree, China seems to spend so little on the nuclear deterrent. The spending may not even reach 5% of their defense budget, which is itself only about 1.5% of their economy. They could spend considerably more without slowing down the economy.

    google shows only 24 ICBM capable of reaching anywhere in the usa with 11,000km range(not sure how accurate). with MIRV it should be enough for the sane people. not with the current retards in the usa and else where. china needs the capability to rain down 500+ nukes for the retards to stay harmless retards.

    I like peace. I am sure all of us don’t want to die due to retards. china needs to do this for us all.

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    Yes, google says that.

    In fact, the estimate for China's ICBM force in 1980 was 20 missiles, all capable of reaching most U.S. cities. Not accurate, but with multi-megaton thermonuclear warheads, and since they target CITIES, enough for deterrence.

    That's 1980! China was so impoverished and technologically backward then. 20 ICBMs was believable in 1980. 24 ICBMs able to reaching U.S. metro areas are not very believable now, 2018. Quite a number of experts say they have more.

    I think the current estimate is about 100 to 150 ICBMs, so what I did was I low-balled the expert estimate to come up with ~100 missiles. (Median estimate is ~130 missiles)

    Though I agree, 100 or 150 missiles is truly pathetic for a nation like China. Modern rocketry, unlike jet technology, was something long ago mastered by China, as was thermonuclear (H-bomb) weaponry and laser-inertial guidance.

    With those 3 technologies, even with no GPS whatsoever, you have viable very-long-range ICBMs.
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  • @Che Guava
    That is an ignorant statement. Japan was (and remains) very important in consumer tech., one fundamental step forward was the development of advanced electronics separately from military programs.

    The world's most advanced OS at the time, TRON. That was a particular case of U.S. perfidy, while the U.S. was allowing sales and installation of Apple machines in schools, they were forcing, through threats, our govt. to halt a similar plan to have TRON computers as standard in schools, the U.S. was making all kinds of stupid threats, so the plan stopped.

    We were also the first place to have Java applications running on phones, called 'appli', not 'app', but the latter term is clearly derived from the former.

    Also the first for relatively large DRAMs, necessary to represent the written language. That too, was the target of trade war by the U.S.

    Much more.

    Che, but im seeing Japan consumer products esp white goods & other technologies are declining so fast in last 10~20yrs. Could you share what is happening in Jp?

    -The design of Jp make brands are generally getting very antique look unattractive now, ave tech, design not so good, reliability/quality problem, but expensive.

    Whereas Korea brands are becoming better tech, new modern look with innovative design, good features, gd quality, cheap. China brand is still trying to catch up, cheap but quality no gd.

    -There are continuous news that Jp factories are having fraud QC like false claimed specs of special Steel, cars,..

    -Jp Semiconductor used to be world No.1 largest, but now its like dropping quite low. Even Toshiba is selling off its Dram factories. Memory its typical Korea brand Samsung/LG/Hynix. LCD, OLED screen…

    -Why near total absent from smart phone & tablets market, except Sony but simply not competitive.

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    Chinese goods is beating Western, Japanese and Korean products everywhere, are you saying the Americans and Europeans consumers do not know what they are doing? Don't insult your compatriots' intelligence. The only stupid guy here is the only buries his head in the hole with old days of colonialsim and cold war rhetoric instead of seeing the real world and pull himself up to compete.
    , @Che Guava
    This is too late, but I was reading many years ago, many (more than ten) years ago, about some clever people in China setting up a fake NEC. They had a plush head office, and several branch offices.

    Since I love many stories by Phillip K. Dick, this was like one come true, fascinated me.

    They were closed down, but to make a simulacrum of a big corporation, and run it for some years, it is just like something from one of PKDs novels.

    Only, it was real.
    , @Che Guava
    TT,

    I cannot give a true and full answer, for obvious reasons of contract and honour.

    However, very impressed by S.K. tech. innovation, even when last there (some time ago). You will find that tech. from Japan is still in many places, but I agree, it is bad that most finished consumer products are made in China, Vietnam, Malysia
    etc.now.also true that Malaysia is avoided recently because the Moslem arrogance of most Malays these days makes them useless as any kind of employees.
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  • @Snowman
    Sorry, I don't want to answer anon comments.
    For all I know, you could be Derbyshire himself.
    If you really want an answer, you can ask me with your real handle. Then I'll answer.

    I don’t care particularly, it just seemed that your comment had not much of a point, and it struck me that as it appeared to me (due to whatever deficit of perception on my part) it might to others as well, and you might want to address that. But no harm, no foul.

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    Like I said, I don't answer anon comments. If you want to talk to me, use your real handle. Otherwise I will ignore you from now on.
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    You seem very confident of your not very original and even half baked views (e.g. about polygamy where there is much more to be said). Perhaps you would sound a little more mature if you more or less identified yourself - like Malla for example - and gave yourself something to live up to.

    So after getting a polite return complement for all your unwarranted polemical firings, your hip auto shoot again?

    I already said odour is over, let’s start a new. Old habit hard to change, too much half baked beans eating indeed can cause flatulence. Ok, call it a day, my dear Oz brother.

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  • @Johann Ricke

    You raise the spectre of Xi as a megalomaniac who knows he must stay in power for another 15 years to guarantee that China is powerful enough to achoeve his ambitions.
     
    I'd call Xi a run-of-the-mill Chinese leader. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao must be kicking themselves for not elevating themselves to President-for-life when they had the chance. As to Xi's ambitions, they are Chinese ambitions rather than a personal affectation. China's not Germany or Japan, a bit player on the world stage for most of recorded history. China's self-conception, reflected in its very name, is of itself as the center of the world - the sole civilization in a veritable ocean of barbarians. Its particular sense of mission civilisatrice, which pre- dates the White Man's Burden by thousands of years, does not merely give it license to acquire foreign lands - it confers upon such efforts the status of moral imperative.

    Agreed. You seem to have a very good understanding of the Chinese way of thinking.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    He thinks that China wants to conquer the world.

    You think that's a rational reflection of Chinese thinking?

    :P
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  • @Anon
    Do you think Derbyshire would disagree with that statement?

    If so, why?

    Sorry, I don’t want to answer anon comments.
    For all I know, you could be Derbyshire himself.
    If you really want an answer, you can ask me with your real handle. Then I’ll answer.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    I don't care particularly, it just seemed that your comment had not much of a point, and it struck me that as it appeared to me (due to whatever deficit of perception on my part) it might to others as well, and you might want to address that. But no harm, no foul.
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Lin
    BTW, regarding some indian women turned fat, there's a reason:the Camel Effect:
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Gene_making_Indians_fat_found/rssarticleshow/3013224.cms
    http://www.halls.md/bmi/singapore.htm
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    Many 3rd worlders(Chinese included)suffered presently or historically from chronical hunger and its particularly obviously in India. The environmental factors got into the genes that during time of normal food sufficiency, the body would tend to accumulate fat, just like a camel,to prepare for future food shortage. Comparing an indian to other people of the same weight and height, the indian usually have higher fat content. That also explain why Indians often love candies and confectionery. Because 'hunger' usually is associated with severe carbohydates deficiency. The Irish famine in early 1840s was a potato famine, not a beef burger famine.
    Chinese diet actually isn't that bad. I did checked some stats(correct me if I were wrong): Chinese grain production in 1978, just after the cultural revolution was some 40% higher than indian figure in 2015. Chinese meat consumption/capita/yr now is about 60-65 kg while the US figure is about 100 to 110 kg. We've come a long way. Trump IMO made a bad mistake to charge higher tariff on Chinese products; what he should've done is asking Xi to import more US food like beef and chicken
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    I suspect attilathehen is one of those overweight feminists who couldn't get the dates she fancies and keeps complaining. I do hope she could lose a few pounds and be happy

    I noticed animals always gobbled up food in their mouth/ throat (monkeys, squirrels) or stomach(dogs, cattle) quickly for later consumption when face danger. camel effect is another.

    But indians are not any camel effect. They simply talk through flour-rich curry dinner starting from 8-11pm…that’s part of culture & where family/frnd gather. My North indian friends with beautiful wife import from India(match making with good dowry, better than pick a non obedient white) did that, sometimes i join in.

    Its very fattening yet they seldom exercise, so his wife beauty can’t last long…but Indians like big fatty tummy women in Bollywood, correct Malla?

    Chinese, Korean & Japanese diet are prone to simple less oily cuisine. Slim figures are highly admired, they will go on diet or fasting Immed whenever someone casually ask about their flabby arms.

    Asians have no thick long blackish facial body hair so skin is smooth like Tofu. Look at whites or Indians women prickling legs like toilet brush you know. They shave regularly like men, incl moustache…

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  • @ANON
    You remind me of my noticing with interest the expression of pride in China's achievement in building nuclear weapons that I heard from a Chinese university student from Hong Kong in the 60s when we wete both doing a bit of casual gardening work.

    I am the first to point out that Chinese people's good qualities were accurately appreciated by the great Sir Francis Galton in what should be a famous letter to The Times in June 1864 headed "Africa for the Chinese" (I first learned of it from John Derbyshire btw) but sadly "the madness of crowds" and other human follies haven't bypassed the Chinese. How about superstition (though I know too much to brand as unintelligent the surprising number of high achieving religious people I know) and how about gambling for starters?

    But let me just take off from your "united to defend against external threat" for one salient comment. Wouldn't it be absurdly paranoid to imagine China seriously threatened today, or any time since about 1953? As to the STC trivia (relatively) I think the US should certainly expect China to take steps to prevent the US being the effective enforcer right on its doorstep but what's your problem with the Hague court decision. Is it going further than saying that territorial limits are 12 miles from established permanently above sea level territory? (I forget how the 200 miles and the halfway lines and lines on continental shelf edge) work. Do you claim to know beyond making ethnocentric polemic noises?) That has surely been ling established while many existing countries didn't even have ocean going ships. Are you claiming that China, because it is big and strong enough to bully others (like the USA I agree) should be able to pick and choose which established institutions it will respect now that ir is a permant member of the Security Council, a member of the WTO etc? BTW i have known only a few international court judges, arbitrators etc. and I know of no reason for holding international court decisions in generalused contempt despite the problems of the field such as lack of a police force and enforceability generally. Have you particular knowledge? And BTW can any general case be made for giving control of navigation rights in the SCT to one country?

    What a pity that US polucy towards Russia and China since 1990 has been so unintelligent that it is not possible to be sure one is fair in criticising a leader like Xi for not, urbanely, broadcasting to his people a message of modesty, restraint and dignity befitting a great people whose methods of government in a changing world lost their way for a time. but which is now effectually restored to where it should be (OK there are probably a lot of country people who would listen cynically and say "when do we benefit - even though they have already...)

    pride in China’s achievement in building nuclear weapons

    What would you expect from a nation that get constant aggression threats by many foreign countries including getting nukes by US during Korean war?

    Many Chinese appreciate Mao for letting China stand up. Deng for filling stomach. Xi for prosperity.

    How about superstition (though I know too much to brand as unintelligent the surprising number of high achieving religious people I know) and how about gambling for starters?

    These are deeply ingrained in majority less intelligent Chinese DNA, incl its overseas diaspora, they juz can’t resist like fire to moths.

    Wouldn’t it be absurdly paranoid to imagine China seriously threatened today, or any time since about 1953?

    No, its a very true serious threats brewing for last many yrs. USUK are doing everything they could to undermine China. China will be naive to trust these vultures are pigeons.

    Deng was smart to apply 韬光养晦-to conceal one’s strengths and bide one’s time (idiom) to avoid USEu excessive attention to draw containment. Russia Putin make that mistake but China help shielded him from total containment.

    Now China has grown too big its not possible to conceal or afraid of been swallow up anymore, Xi decided its time to move on to next higher phase for China dream, that alarm/frighten the West much seeing China surge pass in every fronts.

    And BTW can any general case be made for giving control of navigation rights in the SCT to one country?

    China never make such claim, nor ever stupid to interfer any navigation rts in SCS that benefit it most. Its US overwhelming propaganda war to stir tension betw China & Asia, demonized China as a menacing bully.

    Didn’t you noticed since 2017 every single news article about SCS carried on its bottom a standard template stating something like 5Trillions trade pass thru SCS and China is doing whatsover…. to subconsciously scare the world.

    China is contesting on:
    1. FON- A nonsense that USmilitary warship has been intruding many countries like Iran & even its allies territories 12 nautical miles. FON is for commercial ships, or due to some valid reason but with consent for military ships. Why US not try Russia?

    200miles is EEZ, Center line is between two countries borders when its narrower than 400miles.

    2. Its historical rights in 9 dotted lines & all spratly islands that whole world recognized until Obama trying to rebalance there.

    I have tried debunk the SCS myth here:

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-chinese-in-southern-vietnam/#comment-2197730

    There are some Western scholars and academics also pointed out these, esp all maps showing China owned the international recognized 9 dotted lines & its islands since 1800 or earlier up to 1950′s Canada still printing such maps. So are Japan ancient maps. The world leaders know well, very few support the fake Hague ruling but some are toeing US war against China.

    Singapore KT Lim(i think she possibly a professor in marine laws) done an excellent job to expose Princeton Professors shameless lies about SCS judgements & US Jp Phip conspiracy. China should reward her for standing up against the lying world You can contact her facebook by KT Lim.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/did-the-ruling-sink-the-rule-of-law

    China has evolved to a stage that territory expansion by force is not in their textbook, knowing its reason how every empire fall. Their many ancient teachings on Arts of managing country sternly war Emperor from engaging any wars by all mean unless for defense, esp for useless border lands.

    Xi has been obviously practising these ancient arts & Confucianism skillfully.
    修身齐家治国平天下
    Cultivate one’s moral virtue first, then regulate the family, and rule the state(country) before pacifying the country(world).

    Xi is ruling China now with many own enormous problems, there is no need to interfer the world like USEU so busy poking noses into other ass thousands of miles away to complaint its smelly, while own backyards are stink with sewage overflowing.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    You have added much interesting information which I hope to follow up. That said, let me add my own take on the SCS controversy. First that it should be unimportant in practice (although allowing China to bully neighbours much as the US does). [Contrast and compare Canada and Taiwan in relation to their relations with the US and China respectively I toss in. The Phillipines could be Columbia say.]
    Second that most of the trade and shipping in the SCS is going to and from China; and that to send trade with Korea and Japan to the East of the Phillipines would not be earth shattering in its impact.
    , @TT

    Singapore KT Lim(i think she possibly a professor in marine laws) done an excellent job to expose Princeton Professors shameless lies about SCS judgements & US Jp Phip conspiracy. China should reward her for standing up against the lying world You can contact her facebook by KT Lim.
     
    Sorry, its KT Tan. My memory is declining... after too much time spend reading unz.
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  • @Anon
    You have not able to defend why do you make repetitive polemical firing, from silly attack to a valid quip on Attilathehen foolish comment, to again attempt to call a reasonable IQ remarks absurd & ridiculous when politely been ask to clarify.

    You indeed have a habit of shooting from your ass firing off comment without grabbing its pts, isnt it, but ok the odor is over now, let's breath again.

    Consider what must happen when female equality means most of your bright females are putting off having children till their 30s, and are having only one or two while their medical skills are saving the eight children of the young peasant (or Palestinian refugee!! Jihadists to spare).
     
    This is whole world problem, brought by break neck fast speed globalization that making urban life so tense & materialistic in midst of fierce competition in every levels, internal & external. Even Animal don't produce more offspring under unfavourable condition. In agri life you need many free helpful hands like 12 kids, not in urban life where a misfired kid cost you a lifetime bomb.

    Ancient China Han Polygamy practice is the way out to organically revolves human gene improvement, the best male mate with as many best beautiful females to produce the best offsprings with best upbringing condition. Feminist will scream.

    Catholic & Islam have took a wrong turn to use it as: when we multiply like rabbits to outnumber everyone, we are the winner. Turkey Erogan is screaming this slogan now for his Ottoman Empire dream...produce more poor retard jihadists.

    You seem very confident of your not very original and even half baked views (e.g. about polygamy where there is much more to be said). Perhaps you would sound a little more mature if you more or less identified yourself – like Malla for example – and gave yourself something to live up to.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    So after getting a polite return complement for all your unwarranted polemical firings, your hip auto shoot again?

    I already said odour is over, let's start a new. Old habit hard to change, too much half baked beans eating indeed can cause flatulence. Ok, call it a day, my dear Oz brother.
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  • @TT

    Further to the centralisation point, are you not aware that the term limit for Xi has now been abolished unless what I have just been reminded of in the NR is wrong. Even Mugabe seemed OK once but…. 35 years on.
     
    Imo, its a wise move, when existential "war" is imminent, pres muz not be tied by term restriction that only applied in peace time.

    Yes, my china visitors juz told its done with blessing of even Hu JT. They are receptive, with very high appraisal of Xi performance and outlook of China.

    That idea of abolishing 2 terms & age limits are pushed by other elders, not Xi idea, in order to better govern the 1.4B huge nation. But Xi will still look out for successor, its tiring job afterall.

    Another said this move is necessary for Xi to able continue carry out restructuring and exec grand plans without been slided as last term pres. Who know he may juz step down suddenly after 2 terms.

    Corruption was literally gone even down to lowest level that make their biz more difficult, unable to bribe through now. People are now monitoring, publicizing any abuse through media that will make these officials lose their job. But they are now paid so well, petty corruption is not worth anymore.

    If its true, within 5yrs Xi could really turn around China deep seated corruption is a miraculous feat. There are so many restructuring in every levels. China is striving ahead daily while Uncle Sham still wallowing in mud playing tyranny everywhere.

    And the interesting extension of my ambivalent warning about China returning to centralisation is that Almerica’s residual federalism (my usage emphasises the division of power geographically) and that of Europe may mean that copying the best Chinese models will take place earlier and more vigorously than it would under a Qing Emperor (OK that’s a low bar – and reminds me to contrast and compare Japan in the 19th century). As someone who believes my family (absent some ghastly mutation – fragile X syndrome anyone) has the genes and investment nous, combined with past good luck and ordinary future luck to enjoy the best of education and material comfort over let’s say a six generation period or more I am interested in what a Xi led government might do to facilitate sane, conscientious people of talent and high to very high IQs being able to live without having to counterplot against the envy and greed or just sanctimonious mala fide moralising of those with less talent, and maybe less luck, who would drag them down whether with taxes or more general means. I have been a democratic political animal but I don’t trust to the brains and generosity of the demos to look after those I really care about. Maybe I would have been a happy court Jew provided the court looked stable.

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  • @AaronB
    Malla, you're funny in that you are very realistic about Asians but romanticize the West.

    Shed your illusions, my friend, and accept that mankind is just a nasty animal.

    The West is nice now because it's exhausted - it's lost its will you power. As the world teaches the West the wages of niceness, it will become mean again.

    The niceness of the West is a brief window in history.

    If you really wanted to save the West, you would advise it to become more evil - deceitful, treacherous, and violent.

    Of course, that would destroy all the things you like about the West. You couldn't romanticize it anymore.

    Of course, one cannot he self-consciously evil - the real way to survival, then power and greatness, is to be self-righteously evil.

    Proclaim morality but be evil. Double-think - hypocrisy - is necessary for all greatness.

    I was reading about slavery in the South - apparently, whenever slaves rebelled whites were shocked and described rebellious slaves as "evil, ungrateful, crazy". They simply could not imagine that slavery was causing rebellions. They were good people!

    Like today, when school shootings are described as just "crazy". We can't imagine that something about the cruelty of American culture is responsible.

    What's worse, slaves mostly sided with their masters against their fellow slave rebels and sold them out. That's the human animal.

    This is just the way of the human world. Human affairs will always be like this.

    If you want to be a part of the human world, you have to accept all this and play by the rules of the human animal.

    It's just stupid to think you can be part of the human world and not play by its rules - that kind of romantic stupidity gets ruthlessly crushed by reality, as the West is now learning.

    All this whining about the Jews - Jews are just more evil than whites now, which makes them top dog. If whites want to be top dog, they need you become as evil as Jews.

    It's really that simple.

    If you don't like it, there is a way out - fly to the woods, the deserts, the mountain caves, or the monasteries. Become a mystic, a bohemian, etc.

    But it's just stupid to think the human world can ever be anything other than it is.

    The oy two honest people in the world are the evil people and the mystics and bohemians. They see reality clearly but make different choices.

    “The West is nice now because it’s exhausted”. Your point is obviously not entirely wrong any more than your observation about our being a nasty species. But I think you are leaving out some huge factors.

    One is simply the supersession of Malthusian demographics over the last two hundred years. Remember that WW2 was made possible by birth rates that meant 2 million Germans and 5 million Russians were born in 1913. Not surprising that an old fashioned chap like Hitler thought the master race needed Lebensraum. Japan is not so exhausted thatit couldn’t quickly carve out an empire somewhere that is badly run and no modern people want: say Somalia. But it has absolutely no need to think of it. An English cricket or soccer team could easily beat its counterparts of 1900, 1925, 1950, 1975…. but the prosperity that underpins that and the enjoyment the players’ grandparents are probably getting from their performances means that there is no reason to lament the end of Empire.

    Another approach is that of applying Maslow’s hierarchy of needs to explaining the changing behaviour of prosperous middle class people in Europe from early in the 19th century.

    I could throw in the theory that busy executioners up to the mid 19th century reduced the gene pool for serious nastiness quite a bit but I think I have made my point.

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    Re: the executions part.

    Reminds me of a conversation I had with a Chinese friend.

    Me: "Is it true what unofficial estimates say, that China publicly executes maybe 5,000 people a year?

    Friend: "That's absolutely not true!"

    "We publicly execute at least 16,000 people a year - and it's not enough".
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  • @denk
    These guy raise some good points on the issue of clandestine churches in China.....

    China’s experience with western colonialism opened its eyes to the dangers of Christianity as a tool of imperialism, a fifth column that could undermine its political freedom. Transcending Mao, a politically, militarily and economically ascendant China moved, after the 1989 Tiananmen Square disaster, to encourage revival of its Confucian-Taoist-Buddhist traditions, to revive nationalism. It was doubtless nudged by the warlike invasion of underground evangelicals trained and funded by the West, as part of a cultural assault on the regime.

    As part of an effort to stem the underground church, Beijing is funding official churches under the auspices of the China Christian Council (for Protestants) and the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association (not affiliated to the Vatican). But the ‘nationalist church’ is being eroded by an insidious campaign that it supports the official establishment, and does not oppose it. The authors of this mischief know that dharma is not revolutionary ideology; its purpose is to maintain the harmony of the individual with the society. Only extreme stress can produce opposition: Kautilya advised the people to overthrow unjust rulers; but with all their shortcomings the Chinese rulers do try to improve the lot of their people. Western infiltration in China can only reproduce the paradise that resulted in the Opium Wars.
     
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/contaminating-confucius-christianity-in-china/5410359

    It would be interesting to contrast and compare the element of paranoia in European attitudes and behaviour toward Jews, Chinese toward Christians and, say, Buddhists in Sri Lanka to Tamils and in Burma to Rohingya. Hitler and the Nazis managed to make the outcome for Jews unique thoughn
    I suppose the last 70,000 years has seen some complete genocides. One of the problems for Egypt’s Copts is that there are so many of them. Maybe Russia will be a country that one day welcomes them all – for more than one obvious reason.

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  • @Lin
    BTW, regarding some indian women turned fat, there's a reason:the Camel Effect:
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Gene_making_Indians_fat_found/rssarticleshow/3013224.cms
    http://www.halls.md/bmi/singapore.htm
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    Many 3rd worlders(Chinese included)suffered presently or historically from chronical hunger and its particularly obviously in India. The environmental factors got into the genes that during time of normal food sufficiency, the body would tend to accumulate fat, just like a camel,to prepare for future food shortage. Comparing an indian to other people of the same weight and height, the indian usually have higher fat content. That also explain why Indians often love candies and confectionery. Because 'hunger' usually is associated with severe carbohydates deficiency. The Irish famine in early 1840s was a potato famine, not a beef burger famine.
    Chinese diet actually isn't that bad. I did checked some stats(correct me if I were wrong): Chinese grain production in 1978, just after the cultural revolution was some 40% higher than indian figure in 2015. Chinese meat consumption/capita/yr now is about 60-65 kg while the US figure is about 100 to 110 kg. We've come a long way. Trump IMO made a bad mistake to charge higher tariff on Chinese products; what he should've done is asking Xi to import more US food like beef and chicken
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    I suspect attilathehen is one of those overweight feminists who couldn't get the dates she fancies and keeps complaining. I do hope she could lose a few pounds and be happy

    I’d never heard it called the “camel effect” though it is immediately understandable. I wonder if there is a class/caste difference derived from hundreds of years without food shortage. Maybe check the Parsees.

    In Australia it is notorious that Aborigines don’t handle the availability of modern high calorie foods well with high rates of obesity and diabetes. Even the Polynesians who did a bit of gardening show some of the same problem. And that of course is before you introduce the novel attraction of alcohol.

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  • @ThatDamnGood
    You are missing the elephant with regards to xtians in China. Don't worry so much about RC. Be more concerned with protestants and evangelicals. In the USA, without them, the Israel lobby would not be that powerful.

    But aren’t America’s evangelical Zionists a bizarre American peculiarity? And if they evangelise as missionaries in China are they really likely to turn sensible Chinese minds to such lunacy? Hasn’t some cynic written “In Praise of the Rice Christians”? :-)

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    I am afraid "Christian Zionism" among evangelicals is pretty common. And yes, I don't see why the converted in China will not embrace it as others have elsewhere.
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  • @Astuteobservor II
    it is never stupid to prepare for war. I think the 250 nukes china have is too small of a deterrent vs the current retards in the usa who thinks usa can win a nuclear war due to china's small number of nukes.

    get ICBM with MIRV to 500 count. no more hot war. they may think usa can survive 50 nukes but not 500 nukes raining down. china should do this for world peace, so retards like that would not start a nuclear war.

    Would it not have been almost insane in the 1990s to propose as realistic a possible major war (with or without nuclear weapons) between China and the USA. Even the loons who thought America could effectually govern Iraq wouldn’t have proposed allowing US forces to get bogged down in China or seen it as acceptable to risk even one Chinese nuclear weapon killing Americans in America. But now??? I would be almost as confident except that Trump’s tweets and White House revolving chaos leave a 5 per cent doubt, which, if an accurate assessment, is horrifying, and, if not accurate and vastly overstated, is still a reason for deploring the behaviour of Ameriva’s political class, including the President.

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    there are alot of online crazies posting about how usa can survive 50+ nukes and still be a super power and be set back only 10-20 years of progress. this is how crazy, naive and stupid they are. they have reached even the super serious forums I visit. it is why I have taken them seriously since 2017.

    that is what china needs to safeguard against. china needs to take this seriously. china needs 5x the current ICBM numbers. china needs to do this so we can all live in peace.

    I don't want to chance it, not this.

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  • @ThatDamnGood
    You are missing the elephant with regards to xtians in China. Don't worry so much about RC. Be more concerned with protestants and evangelicals. In the USA, without them, the Israel lobby would not be that powerful.

    Hmmm

    But they’r WMMing that toxic brew to the Chinese,
    ITS like a time bomb ticking right inside the PRC !

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  • @Moi
    Here, in the US, we just walk over them, no?

    They even took off his valuables after walking pass that fainted guy in US.

    Jim is trying to single out China unfairly, and just lucky he fainted in London save by some kind souls. Try some London outskirts poor area by lying down pretend to faint, see if his trouser still intact.

    In India or some countries, your kidneys are gone. Ass is sore, oops, who did it.

    These are common human problems prevalence in poverty hit area, even in developed countries to lesser extend, Dinh and others had discussed about that in Vietnam too.

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  • @PandaAtWar
    Denk, are you by chance a German-speaker?

    I only learned some German words like achtung achtung from those ww2 war comics .

    I kinda like Germans, but….
    What has gotten to Merkel’s head ?

    https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/970512/news-angela-merkel-china-balkans-investments-free-trade-new-silk-roads

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  • ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @TT
    Joe is typical patriotic Chinese angered by Western 8 alliance bullying till this day. While we are not from China, we too feel very agitated by FukusFrInd evil behaviour now. So naturally Chinese getting the direct shit has greater resentment.

    My China friend told, some are ready to sell everything to support their gov for war during SCS fake Hague court judgement. People esp Chinese are united to defend against external threat, better than their penchant for internal bickering in peace time.

    You remind me of my noticing with interest the expression of pride in China’s achievement in building nuclear weapons that I heard from a Chinese university student from Hong Kong in the 60s when we wete both doing a bit of casual gardening work.

    I am the first to point out that Chinese people’s good qualities were accurately appreciated by the great Sir Francis Galton in what should be a famous letter to The Times in June 1864 headed “Africa for the Chinese” (I first learned of it from John Derbyshire btw) but sadly “the madness of crowds” and other human follies haven’t bypassed the Chinese. How about superstition (though I know too much to brand as unintelligent the surprising number of high achieving religious people I know) and how about gambling for starters?

    But let me just take off from your “united to defend against external threat” for one salient comment. Wouldn’t it be absurdly paranoid to imagine China seriously threatened today, or any time since about 1953? As to the STC trivia (relatively) I think the US should certainly expect China to take steps to prevent the US being the effective enforcer right on its doorstep but what’s your problem with the Hague court decision. Is it going further than saying that territorial limits are 12 miles from established permanently above sea level territory? (I forget how the 200 miles and the halfway lines and lines on continental shelf edge) work. Do you claim to know beyond making ethnocentric polemic noises?) That has surely been ling established while many existing countries didn’t even have ocean going ships. Are you claiming that China, because it is big and strong enough to bully others (like the USA I agree) should be able to pick and choose which established institutions it will respect now that ir is a permant member of the Security Council, a member of the WTO etc? BTW i have known only a few international court judges, arbitrators etc. and I know of no reason for holding international court decisions in generalused contempt despite the problems of the field such as lack of a police force and enforceability generally. Have you particular knowledge? And BTW can any general case be made for giving control of navigation rights in the SCT to one country?

    What a pity that US polucy towards Russia and China since 1990 has been so unintelligent that it is not possible to be sure one is fair in criticising a leader like Xi for not, urbanely, broadcasting to his people a message of modesty, restraint and dignity befitting a great people whose methods of government in a changing world lost their way for a time. but which is now effectually restored to where it should be (OK there are probably a lot of country people who would listen cynically and say “when do we benefit – even though they have already…)

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    pride in China’s achievement in building nuclear weapons
     
    What would you expect from a nation that get constant aggression threats by many foreign countries including getting nukes by US during Korean war?

    Many Chinese appreciate Mao for letting China stand up. Deng for filling stomach. Xi for prosperity.

    How about superstition (though I know too much to brand as unintelligent the surprising number of high achieving religious people I know) and how about gambling for starters?
     
    These are deeply ingrained in majority less intelligent Chinese DNA, incl its overseas diaspora, they juz can't resist like fire to moths.

    Wouldn’t it be absurdly paranoid to imagine China seriously threatened today, or any time since about 1953?
     
    No, its a very true serious threats brewing for last many yrs. USUK are doing everything they could to undermine China. China will be naive to trust these vultures are pigeons.

    Deng was smart to apply 韬光养晦-to conceal one's strengths and bide one's time (idiom) to avoid USEu excessive attention to draw containment. Russia Putin make that mistake but China help shielded him from total containment.

    Now China has grown too big its not possible to conceal or afraid of been swallow up anymore, Xi decided its time to move on to next higher phase for China dream, that alarm/frighten the West much seeing China surge pass in every fronts.

    And BTW can any general case be made for giving control of navigation rights in the SCT to one country?
     
    China never make such claim, nor ever stupid to interfer any navigation rts in SCS that benefit it most. Its US overwhelming propaganda war to stir tension betw China & Asia, demonized China as a menacing bully.

    Didn't you noticed since 2017 every single news article about SCS carried on its bottom a standard template stating something like 5Trillions trade pass thru SCS and China is doing whatsover.... to subconsciously scare the world.

    China is contesting on:
    1. FON- A nonsense that USmilitary warship has been intruding many countries like Iran & even its allies territories 12 nautical miles. FON is for commercial ships, or due to some valid reason but with consent for military ships. Why US not try Russia?

    200miles is EEZ, Center line is between two countries borders when its narrower than 400miles.

    2. Its historical rights in 9 dotted lines & all spratly islands that whole world recognized until Obama trying to rebalance there.

    I have tried debunk the SCS myth here:
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-chinese-in-southern-vietnam/#comment-2197730

    There are some Western scholars and academics also pointed out these, esp all maps showing China owned the international recognized 9 dotted lines & its islands since 1800 or earlier up to 1950's Canada still printing such maps. So are Japan ancient maps. The world leaders know well, very few support the fake Hague ruling but some are toeing US war against China.

    Singapore KT Lim(i think she possibly a professor in marine laws) done an excellent job to expose Princeton Professors shameless lies about SCS judgements & US Jp Phip conspiracy. China should reward her for standing up against the lying world You can contact her facebook by KT Lim.
    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/did-the-ruling-sink-the-rule-of-law

    China has evolved to a stage that territory expansion by force is not in their textbook, knowing its reason how every empire fall. Their many ancient teachings on Arts of managing country sternly war Emperor from engaging any wars by all mean unless for defense, esp for useless border lands.

    Xi has been obviously practising these ancient arts & Confucianism skillfully.
    修身齐家治国平天下
    Cultivate one's moral virtue first, then regulate the family, and rule the state(country) before pacifying the country(world).

    Xi is ruling China now with many own enormous problems, there is no need to interfer the world like USEU so busy poking noses into other ass thousands of miles away to complaint its smelly, while own backyards are stink with sewage overflowing.
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    @Wizard of Oz
    RAccepted that you have put rational thought into the issue but before your next polemical firing I recommend reading up on Flynn Effect and thinking of its many possible causes (and consequences) plus Ron Unz's demolition of the left and right by demonstrating the nonsense to be found in the (for some it seems) canonical works of Lynn (with or without Vanhenen and not excluding some of the late Phil Rushton's excesses of credulity).

    I simply wish to point to the dysgenic breeding which started in the Protestant West in the late 19th century and has certainly spread to East Asian cities. Consider what must happen when female equality means most of your bright females are putting off having children till their 30s, and are having only one or two while their medical skills are saving the eight children of the young peasant (or Palestinian refugee!! Jihadists to spare). I pointed out to one bright young man that few of the marvellous female CEOs will benefit our future as much as their high IQ great grandmothers who reared twelve children (typically 6 to adulthood in my case) and the bright chap said "same goes for the blokes!" You may, as I have done , get mileage out of telling that to a group of eight smart 17/18 year old females at a holiday house with family :-)

    You have not able to defend why do you make repetitive polemical firing, from silly attack to a valid quip on Attilathehen foolish comment, to again attempt to call a reasonable IQ remarks absurd & ridiculous when politely been ask to clarify.

    You indeed have a habit of shooting from your ass firing off comment without grabbing its pts, isnt it, but ok the odor is over now, let’s breath again.

    Consider what must happen when female equality means most of your bright females are putting off having children till their 30s, and are having only one or two while their medical skills are saving the eight children of the young peasant (or Palestinian refugee!! Jihadists to spare).

    This is whole world problem, brought by break neck fast speed globalization that making urban life so tense & materialistic in midst of fierce competition in every levels, internal & external. Even Animal don’t produce more offspring under unfavourable condition. In agri life you need many free helpful hands like 12 kids, not in urban life where a misfired kid cost you a lifetime bomb.

    Ancient China Han Polygamy practice is the way out to organically revolves human gene improvement, the best male mate with as many best beautiful females to produce the best offsprings with best upbringing condition. Feminist will scream.

    Catholic & Islam have took a wrong turn to use it as: when we multiply like rabbits to outnumber everyone, we are the winner. Turkey Erogan is screaming this slogan now for his Ottoman Empire dream…produce more poor retard jihadists.

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    You seem very confident of your not very original and even half baked views (e.g. about polygamy where there is much more to be said). Perhaps you would sound a little more mature if you more or less identified yourself - like Malla for example - and gave yourself something to live up to.
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