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    In the 17th century, the Manchus conquered China, causing thousands of defeated Chinese soldiers and their families to flee to Vietnam, then divided between north and south. The Nguyen Clan, rulers of the south, granted these Chinese land in nominal Cambodian territory, paving the way for Vietnam’s annexation of a third of Cambodia. This obscure...
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    I blame the Cultural Revolution for destroying what remained of the ethical roots of chinese culture (Confucianism, Taoism, Legalism - they're not the best foundation for developmental ethics, but they're also all we had then). Add in the deprivation, the cannibalism, the starvation, and what was left of the chinese people when Deng started his reforms were an amoral lot seeking wealth and fortune at any cost. Can't really blame them.

    Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore fared better because we still held some vestiges of traditional culture. HK and Sg particularly so when British systems were layered on top.

    It's gonna be a long time before the Chinese people as a whole regain some semblance of socially-useful morality - noblesse oblige and the sort. I suspect that's what the ruling CCP is concerned about nowadays - what happens after you get rich? Maybe that's why Xi Jinping is focusing on corruption and harmony - he's trying to rebuild an ethical culture which had been lost.

    There's certainly some bent in PRC media towards these in recent years. My mom's currently hooked on some PRC talk show that tries to reconcile quarreling families. I'm sure there are others lauding philanthropic works by rich chinese.

    Maybe that’s why Xi Jinping is focusing on corruption and harmony – he’s trying to rebuild an ethical culture which had been lost.

    He’s using it as a pretext to elevate himself to absolute power, much like Mao. This card-carrying member of the apparat has a family fortune estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars, no doubt garnered through less than honest means. He’s persecuting alleged corruption among his rivals in order to replace them with his men. That will help him create a government in harmony with anything he wants to do.

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    As smart and successful immigrants to be found in many countries, Chinese and Jews have often been compared, but there are many key differences between them. Unlike Jews, Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries. Native children are not taught to despise themselves for having wronged the Chinese, and Chinese don’t produce or host television or radio shows that mock the locals.
     
    This is a good point that can never be overemphasized. I used to think that hostility towards the Jews was nothing more than envy. The Jews are smart and have their act together. Thus they are successful and therefor resented. I lived in SE Asia during part of the late 90's and worked with and did business with many overseas Chinese. The overseas Chinese tend to be entrepreneurs, are content to make lots of money, and by and large do not attempt to influence the politics and culture of their host countries. I used to think the Jews were a lot like the overseas Chinese in this regard.

    Unfortunately, they are not. Instead of focusing on technology and entrepreneurship, they instead go into fields such as academics, media, politics, and political punditry. They are not content with merely being successful in business (if they did, there would be no problem as Americans respect success). Rather, they seek to have political and culture influence in the host societies they live in, and I think this is the REAL reason why they are resented.

    If the Jews were to be like the Overseas Chinese, there would be no problem. Despite occasional riots in Indonesia (Indonesians "run amok" about every 30 years or so), there is no overseas Chinese equivalent to antisemitism. This fact alone suggests that it is not mere envy that drives antisemitism.

    Overseas Chinese do engage in much commercial banking, but are almost never interested in control of public policy regarding such activities. Their interest is profit, nothing more.

    They also engage in owning media outlets and studios – again as profitable ventures, not as propaganda vehicles.

    For the more intellectual members of their people, there is academe, where they have no political agenda, only purely professional ones (in other words to research and teach).

    To be fair, the Overseas Chinese do engage in defensive propaganda, mostly to counter blatantly anti-Chinese propaganda that they feel is directed at their community. But as far as trying to shape society, or god forbid “improve” it? They know enough to leave that to the locals.

    It seems the Overseas Chinese are very careful not to overstep their bounds. They know they are outsiders, so they keep quiet, keep their heads down, and get on with things.

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  • @Anon
    Very interesting, thank you. Would you say competitiveness is a common trait among all the groups?

    And why do you think there is "the desire to be anything but Chinese, the desperate to escape"?

    That’s very simple. The desire, innate or indoctrinated, to escape to anything but Chinese is very common among Chinese women.

    That’s why you see many Chinese women with Western men.

    Western men can be bald, lanky, socially awkward, ultra racists, white supremacist, but Chinese women (all Asian women) will stick to those losers like a moth to a flame.

    1. Richard Spencer
    2. Derb

    If you google it, all White supremacists once had or still have Asian women as their partners. This works for both genders.

    White supremacist denigrate anything but Whites, but can’t get White women.
    Asian women denigrate anything Chinese, but can’t manage to get rid of their DNA.

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  • @AaronB
    I've done business with Chinese in NY where they tried to use Jewish tactics on me. Undermine my self-confidence through criticism, feigned outrage - moral atracks, engage me in futile debate, shape my perceptions, create stress and confusion, guilt trip me, use heavily emotional language to make clear thinking difficult, and "assume" the superior pose.

    I don't know if they learned from American Jews, or its just a natural tactic for a collectivist society to use against an individualistic and rationalistic one. Or if they picked up on American weaknesses intuitively.

    But I was very amused by it and couldn't help but chuckle to myself.

    What the Chinese would do in SE Asia if they were dealing with an individualistic and hyper rationalistic society (everything open to debate, thus to being manipulated) is hard to say.

    How Jews would fare in SE Asia among a collectivist society where questions of identity and power are off the table and not open to debate - thus not open to being undermined, is easier to predict.

    Being overly rationalistic is a huge weakness among Americans - if everything is open to debate, including your identity, everything is open to being manipulated and undermined, and it's easy to create confusion.

    Being individualistic is also a huge liability - studies show its very hard to maintain your opinions, even your perceptions, in the absence of social support. It's quite remarkable. An individual us easily confused and undermined - a member of group, almost never.

    The individual from a collectivist society "knows" - he has the backing of the collective for his beliefs and opinions, and the individual from a non rational society also refuses to even debate certain questions, like identity. They are off the table. He cannot be confused.

    You can't really analyze Chinese and Jewish behavior in their host countries without analyzing the culture of the host countries.

    Your view on Chinese is partially true and others are diametrically opposite.

    Don’t lump Chinese in South East Asia and Chinese from mainland together.

    Chinese in SEA (Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, ….) have different manners albeit follow the traditional Chinese value, i.e., respect elderly, work ethics, etc etc etc.

    What seems to be different then?

    Chinese in SEA are more open with their outlook and views. Chinese from mainland are still clannish and stick to their mainland Chinese. They don’t stick with Chinese from SEA. You won’t find two Chinese from mainland and HongKong together. The only time you’d see them together is one migrated to HongKong or Singapore in their late stage, and then still stick with their mainland Chinese. That’s when you think all Chinese stick. Not at all.

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  • I was avoiding this discussion for obvious reasons — I am going to focus on one advance, the pushing of Jesus in order to effect policy by the west.

    http://royalheritagecruise.com/Vietnam/Vietnam-Facts/vietnam-religions.html

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/asia/rsv/rsv10.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/asia/rsv/rsv11.htm

    The numbers indicate that in South Vietnam two groups preached about Christ: Catholics and protestants.

    The total percentage of protestants: 1%

    The total percentage of Catholics: 5.6 – 7%

    The press of or for a Jewish anything met with little success and more importantly, was not a serious factor during the cold war. The most contentious internal battles were not between the Jew pushers and the rest of the population, but rather among the various nonjewish related belief systems indigenous to Asia. Note: christianity requires no belief in the Old Testament rendering of being Jewish.

    92% of the population if my read of the stats is correct had no affiliation with Christ, nor were they required to do for support. It’s a very strange twist given that North Vietnam commenced to slaughter the entire population North of South in an attempt to kill any religious belief system at all. Whatever the consequences from North Vietnam purging it is the fault of Christ believers or Jews. Contrary to the authors suggestion.

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  • As smart and successful immigrants to be found in many countries, Chinese and Jews have often been compared, but there are many key differences between them. Unlike Jews, Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries. Native children are not taught to despise themselves for having wronged the Chinese, and Chinese don’t produce or host television or radio shows that mock the locals.

    This is a good point that can never be overemphasized. I used to think that hostility towards the Jews was nothing more than envy. The Jews are smart and have their act together. Thus they are successful and therefor resented. I lived in SE Asia during part of the late 90′s and worked with and did business with many overseas Chinese. The overseas Chinese tend to be entrepreneurs, are content to make lots of money, and by and large do not attempt to influence the politics and culture of their host countries. I used to think the Jews were a lot like the overseas Chinese in this regard.

    Unfortunately, they are not. Instead of focusing on technology and entrepreneurship, they instead go into fields such as academics, media, politics, and political punditry. They are not content with merely being successful in business (if they did, there would be no problem as Americans respect success). Rather, they seek to have political and culture influence in the host societies they live in, and I think this is the REAL reason why they are resented.

    If the Jews were to be like the Overseas Chinese, there would be no problem. Despite occasional riots in Indonesia (Indonesians “run amok” about every 30 years or so), there is no overseas Chinese equivalent to antisemitism. This fact alone suggests that it is not mere envy that drives antisemitism.

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    Overseas Chinese do engage in much commercial banking, but are almost never interested in control of public policy regarding such activities. Their interest is profit, nothing more.

    They also engage in owning media outlets and studios - again as profitable ventures, not as propaganda vehicles.

    For the more intellectual members of their people, there is academe, where they have no political agenda, only purely professional ones (in other words to research and teach).

    To be fair, the Overseas Chinese do engage in defensive propaganda, mostly to counter blatantly anti-Chinese propaganda that they feel is directed at their community. But as far as trying to shape society, or god forbid "improve" it? They know enough to leave that to the locals.

    It seems the Overseas Chinese are very careful not to overstep their bounds. They know they are outsiders, so they keep quiet, keep their heads down, and get on with things.
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  • @myself
    You know, I have lived in China, mostly in the birthplace of the Han racial identity - the Central Plain. This is the region, about the size of the combined American north-east and north-west Europe, which is north of the Yangtzi river. You know, Beijing etc.

    There, I met many other wai-guo-ren (broadly, "foreigners"). Americans, Russians, Scandinavians, Poles, Brits, Frenchmen, Germans, Italians, Scandinavians plus of course lots of Koreans and even some Japanese, as well as Israelis, Latin Americans - you get the gist.

    All these groups THOUGHT they saw some of their traits in the Han - anything from business pioneer ethos (said Americans), love of motherland (said by Russians), family orientation (remarked upon by Latin Americans), and so forth.

    Naturally, Koreans and Japanese have actual similarity to Han. That's too obvious.

    But indeed the most consistent remarks, at least as voiced by Whites, about broad similarity between themselves and the Han were expressed by . . . the Germans.

    To be fair, foreigners also saw in the Han many bad traits they disliked in themselves.

    Americans – “Han have limitless greed! Fucking cowboy capitalists without rules!”
    Russians – “Han actively and enthusiastically support totalitarianism!”
    Brits – “Han are arrogant”
    Japanese – “Han are unreasonable nationalists”
    Germans – “Han are much too obedient, like robots”

    Hmm. I’d say all these people were projecting.

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  • @The Seneca Effect
    Chinese are not like Jews. In the West, it is the Germans that they share most affinity with. Jews have been in galuth for a long time. They have no peasantry. It was a driving force for the Zionists, this realization that they could not be a true landed nation without this. Peasant types were mocked and scorned (understand why Haaretz is named as it is) in Jewry, as opposed to Germany and China, where they were looked at as the bedrock of the nation-state.

    Germans prospered everywhere they went, not just in Europe, but globally. They retained their language, their rituals, their familial culture, just like the Chinese. They were not averse to intermarrying with the locals, like the Chinese, and unlike the Jews and Hindus, but culturally they kept apart, and found themselves superior to the lazy locals surrounding them. They were an historical people (i.e. seeing themselves as playing a role in history), like the Chinese. Their respective populations were equally at home farming, working in mines, or making shoes, and did not deign to refuse to work in particular fields. Popular unrest could be stirred up against them (Russia, the Baltic states, etc...), as it is the Chinese (Indonesia, the Philippines, etc...), due to the jealousy inherent to their success among indigenous. As in Bien Hoa, the Germans were invited to Poland, to Chile, to Russia, etc...to work and bring about prosperity.

    Internationally, in the aftermath of two (race) wars against them, Germans have been wiped off of the map, both physically and spiritually. From Russia to the United States, from Guatemala to Estonia, from Cameroon to Papua New Guinea, their contributions and prosperity have been erased, and very few recognize that the foundations they make their livings on are due to the previous industriousness of the Germans.

    This ridiculous trope about the Jews being like the Chinese, and vice versa, is spouted by superficial academics (e.g. Amy Chua) and such, particularly Jews, in a bid to show a link between successful peoples and turn it into self-praise, or as some type of talismanic assurance that hey, you can't juggernaut us, we're like you, ha ha ha. That's all fine, until the struggle for resources becomes more glaring.

    The worldwide Chinese will not be as easy to dislodge as the Germans were.

    You know, I have lived in China, mostly in the birthplace of the Han racial identity – the Central Plain. This is the region, about the size of the combined American north-east and north-west Europe, which is north of the Yangtzi river. You know, Beijing etc.

    There, I met many other wai-guo-ren (broadly, “foreigners”). Americans, Russians, Scandinavians, Poles, Brits, Frenchmen, Germans, Italians, Scandinavians plus of course lots of Koreans and even some Japanese, as well as Israelis, Latin Americans – you get the gist.

    All these groups THOUGHT they saw some of their traits in the Han – anything from business pioneer ethos (said Americans), love of motherland (said by Russians), family orientation (remarked upon by Latin Americans), and so forth.

    Naturally, Koreans and Japanese have actual similarity to Han. That’s too obvious.

    But indeed the most consistent remarks, at least as voiced by Whites, about broad similarity between themselves and the Han were expressed by . . . the Germans.

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    To be fair, foreigners also saw in the Han many bad traits they disliked in themselves.

    Americans - "Han have limitless greed! Fucking cowboy capitalists without rules!"
    Russians - "Han actively and enthusiastically support totalitarianism!"
    Brits - "Han are arrogant"
    Japanese - "Han are unreasonable nationalists"
    Germans - "Han are much too obedient, like robots"

    Hmm. I'd say all these people were projecting.
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  • @Malla
    Could we say
    Japanese=Northern Europeans
    Chinese=Mediterranean Europeans
    Vietnamese=Turks
    Other South East Asians=Arabs/Middle Easterners
    Papuans/Aboriginal Australians=Sub Saharan Africans

    Strange parallels if we go North to South in the European longitude zone and the East Asian longitude zone.
    Of course where does one put Koreans? Mongols? Siberians in Russia? Ainu?
    And is these any such difference in between Northern and Southern Chinese. Many early European traders wrote of Northern Chinese being more honest and introvert than Southern Chinese. Any truth in this?
    The Indian subcontinent would be akin to South America with India being the Brazil.

    Mongolians and Manchurians = Vikings
    Japanese = Teutons
    Han Chinese = Roman-Macedonians
    Koreans = Gauls and Briton Celts
    Vietnamese = Phoenicians
    South East Asians = Aztecs-Incas
    Aboriginals = Sub Saharans

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  • @TT
    What a good job. So you get to research much stories to refute us with your big notebk and broadband while i had to base on old memory typing on small cell phone.

    But i prefer freedom to travel widely, while busy, every project and people i met, i learned. Life is short, live meaningfully, go for what you really love while still young... and die without regrets.

    Fly like a bird, with wings as burden.

    But i prefer freedom to travel widely, while busy, every project and people i met, i learned. Life is short, live meaningfully, go for what you really love while still young… and die without regrets.

    Fly like a bird, with wings as burden.

    Thanks for the wise words TT, I will think about it.
    Cheers.

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  • @TT
    Check out the crime ratings websites link. Don't worry, Indians will overwhelm these criminals very soon, Anglo or not. They aren't aware of Indian power of real criminal until they see it, and make the untouchable lower caste in US.

    No I meant, I have lived in many European countries including Britain, in all White towns. Crime is nearly non existent. If you go to areas with more ‘diversity’, you get crime.

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  • @TT
    That's rt. Mallas isnt a student cum worker as he said. He is a Pro, 24/7 with voracious capacity.

    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?

    Im retiree enjoying free time traveling and residing somewhere hidden, still find it demanding... and eyes are blurring and tearing recently.

    But its addictive to read you guys and many good commenters interesting yet funny comments. That's only thing attract me to unz. Got to offline a while to rest. Thks denk for encouragement.

    恭喜发财 TT

    May New Year bring Prosperity and Happiness to you and loved ones.

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  • @denk
    You ingrate !
    I aint got all day for this, do you know whats CNY ?

    恭喜发财

    hhhhh

    You want the truth ?
    this is the truth.


    Modi/Israel love fest.....

    Despite Recent Setbacks, India-Israel Ties Have Never Been Stronger

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/despite-recent-setbacks-india-israel-ties-have-never_us_5a51485de4b0f9b24bf317f1

    fukusI[ndia]

    QED

    hhhhh

    Modi/Israel love fest…..

    Despite Recent Setbacks, India-Israel Ties Have Never Been Stronger

    Check post 237, I never denied it.

    Also check post 326 about prosperous and happy marriage between long lost soulmatey.

    恭喜发财

    Happy New Year to you, Denk. May New Year bring Prosperity and Happiness to you and loved ones.

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  • @Malla

    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?
     
    Fortunately my job gives me a lot of free time. I am a specialist in some technologies/ complicated machines (I cannot specify on Unz), very very few people in India are specialized in this technology (I studied in Europe) and am hired by a multinational European company. I am mostly needed in time of troubleshooting technical/software problems and presentation to clients on the technologies (if dumb sales team gets hard technical questions, dumb client manager cannot understand and have to be explained like kid). But such things happen only 3 to 4 times a week on average, some weeks I am totally free. So I get a lot of free time in my job and get bored. Am in office with laptop. So I am getting paid to type on Unz and debating denk.

    What a good job. So you get to research much stories to refute us with your big notebk and broadband while i had to base on old memory typing on small cell phone.

    But i prefer freedom to travel widely, while busy, every project and people i met, i learned. Life is short, live meaningfully, go for what you really love while still young… and die without regrets.

    Fly like a bird, with wings as burden.

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    But i prefer freedom to travel widely, while busy, every project and people i met, i learned. Life is short, live meaningfully, go for what you really love while still young… and die without regrets.

    Fly like a bird, with wings as burden.
     
    Thanks for the wise words TT, I will think about it.
    Cheers.
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  • @TT

    No wonder China has such a negative image in the world today..
    fukusi rumour mills have the field all to themselves !

    Its left to old men like us who couldnt stand all the B.S. and take it up on ourself to do something about it .
    YOu’r right, what a thankless job. !

    If only CCP would give me one dollar for every post I wrote since 1999,
     
    May be i will change to new handle called Chicom troll. Then no need to defense myself anymore.

    Xi, Putin, Kim, Assad, Aungsan,..haven't paid even 1cent for all my hardwork. My report used to worth more than US$25k. They should at least reimburse my data cost, or grant me free citizenship to travel freely.

    Indians are very diligent to write obvious distorted propaganda on China everywhere, even Spore Straits Times and west msm published such junks.

    Well i need some rest now. You strive on with coy Malla cheering for you, since 1999.

    no need to entertain Malla , whenever you feel bored, just disengage.

    The guy is obsessed, he’ll grab some sands even when falling down ;-)

    If you humor him you wont have any quality time for yourself,

    hhhhh

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  • @Malla

    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed,
     
    Typical standard response when difficult questions asked. LOL.

    Obsession with the truth is not a bad quality, Denk. Ask Confucius scholar.

    hehehehe

    thats all folks,
     
    Translation: Too many difficult questions asked. Am bailing out.

    hehehehehe

    You ingrate !
    I aint got all day for this, do you know whats CNY ?

    恭喜发财

    hhhhh

    You want the truth ?
    this is the truth.

    Modi/Israel love fest…..

    Despite Recent Setbacks, India-Israel Ties Have Never Been Stronger

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/despite-recent-setbacks-india-israel-ties-have-never_us_5a51485de4b0f9b24bf317f1

    fukusI[ndia]

    QED

    hhhhh

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    Modi/Israel love fest…..

    Despite Recent Setbacks, India-Israel Ties Have Never Been Stronger
     
    Check post 237, I never denied it.

    Also check post 326 about prosperous and happy marriage between long lost soulmatey.

    恭喜发财
     
    Happy New Year to you, Denk. May New Year bring Prosperity and Happiness to you and loved ones.
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  • @TT
    That's rt. Mallas isnt a student cum worker as he said. He is a Pro, 24/7 with voracious capacity.

    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?

    Im retiree enjoying free time traveling and residing somewhere hidden, still find it demanding... and eyes are blurring and tearing recently.

    But its addictive to read you guys and many good commenters interesting yet funny comments. That's only thing attract me to unz. Got to offline a while to rest. Thks denk for encouragement.

    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?

    Fortunately my job gives me a lot of free time. I am a specialist in some technologies/ complicated machines (I cannot specify on Unz), very very few people in India are specialized in this technology (I studied in Europe) and am hired by a multinational European company. I am mostly needed in time of troubleshooting technical/software problems and presentation to clients on the technologies (if dumb sales team gets hard technical questions, dumb client manager cannot understand and have to be explained like kid). But such things happen only 3 to 4 times a week on average, some weeks I am totally free. So I get a lot of free time in my job and get bored. Am in office with laptop. So I am getting paid to type on Unz and debating denk.

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    What a good job. So you get to research much stories to refute us with your big notebk and broadband while i had to base on old memory typing on small cell phone.

    But i prefer freedom to travel widely, while busy, every project and people i met, i learned. Life is short, live meaningfully, go for what you really love while still young... and die without regrets.

    Fly like a bird, with wings as burden.
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  • @TT
    Secret societies are prevalent in older time like 1950's-80. Now its more sophisticated syndicate. If you are not with ass, you are against ass... gangster is like George Bush. So either you join one to bully or get bullied ...

    The police has concluded its better to be the biggest organized gang so all gangs have to obey and toe their line to keep society safe, instead of playing cat & mouse. Only criminal know criminal mind.

    No one asks protection money now. 20yrs ago I personally heard one woman shopkeeper actually mocked a gangster asking for money. If she complaint, Police will beat up the gang's boss of that area and have him guaranteed the safety of complainants. Of course the boss know how to deal with that culprit that hurt his ass sorely. How efficient.

    But wonder why illegal prostitution is flourishing in such strict law enforcement Spore? LKY told, we could but shouldn't, clamp down prostitution. Otherwise our women will be harmed by many sailors on R&R (like Jpn Okinawa). No complaint, no raid.

    So you hardly find any woman there forced into prostitution by organized gangs like in the West or causing public nuisance. The pimp boss worry more than anyone for his business. Any complaint will land him in jail and lost his lucrative business.

    School bully and gang infiltration? I heard now all Spore school discipline masters are make volunteer uniform police, no asshole want to mess up with the biggest gang.

    What a genius to come out with all such systems-Self regulated controlled crimes.

    Wow, that is really smart. Smart moves to keep down crime.

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  • @denk

    Wonder where are the 1.4B mainland Chinese, always depending on few foreigners to help defend China.
     
    I feel your pain. !

    But dont blame the Chinese, I doubt even 1% frequent any English forums, let alone political sites/

    Trouble is,
    The CCP has absolutely no idea of information warfare.

    Every country's embassies have dedicated personnels to scour the local press for 'negative' stories and to counter it when necessary.
    I've never seen Chinese embassies doing this duty.

    Even discrepit Indonesia has embassy staffs monitoring Chinese media, no less !
    I was surprised some years back when Indon embassy wrote to the Chinese mag 'Asiaweek' to 'clarify' some perceived errors in a story about Indon !

    No wonder China has such a negative image in the world today..
    fukusi rumour mills have the field all to themselves !

    Its left to old men like us who couldnt stand all the B.S. and take it up on ourself to do something about it .
    YOu'r right, what a thankless job. !

    If only CCP would give me one dollar for every post I wrote since 1999,
    hhhhhhhh

    No wonder China has such a negative image in the world today..
    fukusi rumour mills have the field all to themselves !

    Its left to old men like us who couldnt stand all the B.S. and take it up on ourself to do something about it .
    YOu’r right, what a thankless job. !

    If only CCP would give me one dollar for every post I wrote since 1999,

    May be i will change to new handle called Chicom troll. Then no need to defense myself anymore.

    Xi, Putin, Kim, Assad, Aungsan,..haven’t paid even 1cent for all my hardwork. My report used to worth more than US$25k. They should at least reimburse my data cost, or grant me free citizenship to travel freely.

    Indians are very diligent to write obvious distorted propaganda on China everywhere, even Spore Straits Times and west msm published such junks.

    Well i need some rest now. You strive on with coy Malla cheering for you, since 1999.

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    no need to entertain Malla , whenever you feel bored, just disengage.

    The guy is obsessed, he'll grab some sands even when falling down ;-)

    If you humor him you wont have any quality time for yourself,

    hhhhh
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  • @Malla
    What I learn on Unz from denk

    People's Republic of China
    http://newsroom.unl.edu/announce/files/file24537.jpg

    Anglo World
    http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/b03b442758d2c6dfb65cb1739285baa2.jpg

    Japan
    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/48/e4/15/48e41552b9a16bdff8f8825eafce587c--japanese-film-movie-stars.jpg

    India
    http://drop.ndtv.com/albums/ENTERTAINMENT/bollywoods-20-best-characters/crimemaster-gogo.jpg

    ---------------------------

    Why does denk waste time writing posts? Denk should just post above post on all Unz pages and throughout the Internet and we will understand. We will get the message. He can save his time and efforts.
    hehehehe

    Why does denk waste time writing posts? Denk should just post above post on all Unz pages and throughout the Internet and we will understand. We will get the message. He can save his time and efforts.

    LoL. That’s really a good one. You have beaten denk, Pro since 1998. If all Chinese & Indians are like you both, China & India can be real BaBa brothers.

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  • @Malla

    while all English speaking anglo countries like US, UK, Australia,… have highest crimes rating.
     
    What? US, UK, Australia have highest crime rating?
    They have higher crime rating than Haiti? Guatemala? Brazil? Venezuela?

    Non Anglos commit crimes in these countries far above their percentage of population. Remove non Anglos and the crime rate will plummet.

    Check out the crime ratings websites link. Don’t worry, Indians will overwhelm these criminals very soon, Anglo or not. They aren’t aware of Indian power of real criminal until they see it, and make the untouchable lower caste in US.

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    No I meant, I have lived in many European countries including Britain, in all White towns. Crime is nearly non existent. If you go to areas with more 'diversity', you get crime.
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  • @denk
    In case you havent notice,

    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed, like you say, we need some quality time for ourself

    hhhhhh

    thats all folks,

    That’s rt. Mallas isnt a student cum worker as he said. He is a Pro, 24/7 with voracious capacity.

    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?

    Im retiree enjoying free time traveling and residing somewhere hidden, still find it demanding… and eyes are blurring and tearing recently.

    But its addictive to read you guys and many good commenters interesting yet funny comments. That’s only thing attract me to unz. Got to offline a while to rest. Thks denk for encouragement.

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    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?
     
    Fortunately my job gives me a lot of free time. I am a specialist in some technologies/ complicated machines (I cannot specify on Unz), very very few people in India are specialized in this technology (I studied in Europe) and am hired by a multinational European company. I am mostly needed in time of troubleshooting technical/software problems and presentation to clients on the technologies (if dumb sales team gets hard technical questions, dumb client manager cannot understand and have to be explained like kid). But such things happen only 3 to 4 times a week on average, some weeks I am totally free. So I get a lot of free time in my job and get bored. Am in office with laptop. So I am getting paid to type on Unz and debating denk.
    , @Malla
    恭喜发财 TT

    May New Year bring Prosperity and Happiness to you and loved ones.
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  • @Third world nationalist
    You got good knowledge of how things work in Singapore. And the organised crime scene here. Personally i like traids as they were they were formed to evict the manchus. A sort of brotherhood. As long as human biology is what it is, the mannerbund will be eternal.

    Secret societies are prevalent in older time like 1950′s-80. Now its more sophisticated syndicate. If you are not with ass, you are against ass… gangster is like George Bush. So either you join one to bully or get bullied …

    The police has concluded its better to be the biggest organized gang so all gangs have to obey and toe their line to keep society safe, instead of playing cat & mouse. Only criminal know criminal mind.

    No one asks protection money now. 20yrs ago I personally heard one woman shopkeeper actually mocked a gangster asking for money. If she complaint, Police will beat up the gang’s boss of that area and have him guaranteed the safety of complainants. Of course the boss know how to deal with that culprit that hurt his ass sorely. How efficient.

    But wonder why illegal prostitution is flourishing in such strict law enforcement Spore? LKY told, we could but shouldn’t, clamp down prostitution. Otherwise our women will be harmed by many sailors on R&R (like Jpn Okinawa). No complaint, no raid.

    So you hardly find any woman there forced into prostitution by organized gangs like in the West or causing public nuisance. The pimp boss worry more than anyone for his business. Any complaint will land him in jail and lost his lucrative business.

    School bully and gang infiltration? I heard now all Spore school discipline masters are make volunteer uniform police, no asshole want to mess up with the biggest gang.

    What a genius to come out with all such systems-Self regulated controlled crimes.

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    Wow, that is really smart. Smart moves to keep down crime.
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  • @denk
    In case you havent notice,

    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed, like you say, we need some quality time for ourself

    hhhhhh

    thats all folks,

    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed,

    Typical standard response when difficult questions asked. LOL.

    Obsession with the truth is not a bad quality, Denk. Ask Confucius scholar.

    hehehehe

    thats all folks,

    Translation: Too many difficult questions asked. Am bailing out.

    hehehehehe

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    You ingrate !
    I aint got all day for this, do you know whats CNY ?

    恭喜发财

    hhhhh

    You want the truth ?
    this is the truth.


    Modi/Israel love fest.....

    Despite Recent Setbacks, India-Israel Ties Have Never Been Stronger

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/despite-recent-setbacks-india-israel-ties-have-never_us_5a51485de4b0f9b24bf317f1

    fukusI[ndia]

    QED

    hhhhh
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  • @denk
    I feel your pain.

    No need to disappear, just moderate you output,

    When I was younger and very gungho, I often did real time debate , even overnight.

    Such indulgence are taking its toll on me, eyes are failing and my day job is demanding,

    These days moderate my post to at most two sessions a day when I got the time, seldom do real time unless Im free and aint going anywhere like today ;-)

    Not need to quit,
    just take it easy and post whenever you find the time and feel like doing it.

    In case you havent notice,

    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed, like you say, we need some quality time for ourself

    hhhhhh

    thats all folks,

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    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed,
     
    Typical standard response when difficult questions asked. LOL.

    Obsession with the truth is not a bad quality, Denk. Ask Confucius scholar.

    hehehehe

    thats all folks,
     
    Translation: Too many difficult questions asked. Am bailing out.

    hehehehehe
    , @TT
    That's rt. Mallas isnt a student cum worker as he said. He is a Pro, 24/7 with voracious capacity.

    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?

    Im retiree enjoying free time traveling and residing somewhere hidden, still find it demanding... and eyes are blurring and tearing recently.

    But its addictive to read you guys and many good commenters interesting yet funny comments. That's only thing attract me to unz. Got to offline a while to rest. Thks denk for encouragement.
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  • @Malla
    Hahahaha this is funny
    This is denk's own link

    http://www.ilaam.net/Intl/IndiaTerrorist.html

    India has a long record of Anti-Americanism. On May 18, 1999, The Indian Express reported that Mr. Fernandes, the Defense Minister, organized and led a meeting with the Ambassadors from Red China, Cuba, Russia, Yugoslavia, Libya, and Iraq to discuss setting up a security alliance "to stop the U.S."

    India votes against the United States at the United Nations more often than any country except Cuba. It had a long term friendship with the former Soviet Union and supported its invasion of Afghanistan.



    Hahahah fukusi[ndia] is a Chinese scam.

    did I post that link ?

    LOL,

    Nixon, Kissinger, Indira Ghandi blah blah….

    Malla you’r so yesterday !

    A sample of some recent headlines…..

    Trump Discovers ‘Indo-Pacific’ on Asia Tour in Boost for India
    [make way China, Asia = Indo, hhhhhhh]

    Modi’s enthusiastic bear hug beats Trump’s handshake

    Donald Trump’s quotes on India: Narendra Modi is a great man, I am a fan of Hindus

    President Obama and India’s Modi Forge an Unlikely Friendship

    Hillary supported export of nuke technology to India after Clinton Foundation got cash infusion from Indian politician – and it wasn’t even his own money!

    Hillary Clinton as next US president will be good news for India

    Kirchick: In India, they’re missing George W. Bush – NY Daily …
    Former president George Bush came to India last month in what marked his first overseas visit since leaving office in January – and was very warmly received.

    Manmohan to Bush: people of India love you

    tip of an iceberg !

    Indian are so anti fukus , the murkkans must be grade A masochists

    buahahahaha

    thats all folks !

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  • @denk
    No but post Nixon, every prez sez Indians are 'our kind of guys'

    meaning fukusI[ndia] are one big happy tefloned family,

    nuthin sticks !


    hhhhh

    But they support us so much that Western media talk about evul Apartheid, Evul Rhodesia (load of b.s.) but keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram? And even before Nixon, world media keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram? Media also keep quite about Bangladesh’s Chittaging Hill tract people (who are similar to nagas in looks and culture). How is that possible?
    Indians and Bangladeshis are more Anglo than Rhodesians and Afrikaners? How iz dat more possible?

    hehehehehe

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  • @denk
    WMM my ass !

    hundreds or even thousands of Chinese workers are just like a drop in that Indian ocean, !

    hhhhh

    You should visit Fiji for example,
    [tip of an iceberg]

    The Indian tsunami got so bad the native Fijians had to BAN further Indian WMM lest they became minorities in their own land, may be they already are !

    The Fijians got whacked by the "international communities', read fukusI, for 'unacceptable racial discrimination against Indian tsunami', just like what they'r dissing out to Myanmar to day.

    WMM is our prerogative, do as I say, not what I do,
    sez fukusI

    hhhhh

    Or YOU CAN try Sg,
    wherever you go, you'd bump into Indian WMM, left , right and centre.

    Whiteys who mourn about white genocide ain seen nuthin yet,

    hhhhhh

    You should visit Fiji for example

    I could not even tho I had a chance. I got on a flight to Fiji, but I guess, I got on wrong flight and I ended up in Taiwan. I went searching for native Taiwanese, found only Han and more Han and only Han in Taipei.

    hehehehehe

    WMM my ass !

    Wooo, were you stuck in migrant camp in Europe by mistake? Were you unfortunate victim there? Must have been a horrible experience, no wonder you are so emotionally scared.

    hehehehehe

    hundreds or even thousands of Chinese workers are just like a drop in that Indian ocean, !

    And already, the Indians cannot stand the Chinese workers?

    hehehehehe

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  • @denk
    LOL,

    ME no chicom,

    just that I hold India to a higher standard, what with all that jazz
    about 'the world's largest democracy',

    hhhh

    just that I hold India to a higher standard,

    You need not. We are folk tongued Indians remember. Need to hold your Pakistani friends to higher standards. They are paragons of truthfulness and kindness.

    hehehehe

    From link provided by you earlier

    https://www.sott.net/article/359163-The-Truth-Perspective-Weapons-of-Mass-Migration-Interview-with-Michael-Springmann-on-Europes-Migrant-Crisis

    Daesh or whatever you want to call them, but it’s the same crowd of fanatical Muslims that the Americans, Saudis and Pakistanis had recruited, trained and supported all these years.

    So you Pak buddies have been on Murrikka’s lap recruiting ‘Warriors of Islam’ for Zio- Murrica’s use.
    But Pak is your best friend now.

    Check out the lovin in between Paks and Chins. Check from 0.24 seconds (English part out of Urdu) where the Pak leader narates his love for the Chinese Leadership in impeccable English (LOL) in front of his embarrassed aides.
    ‘Our freindship higher than the Himalayas
    Deeper than the deepest Sea in the World
    And Sweetest and Sweeter than Honey’

    Tears rolled down my eyes when I listened to this. What love, what friendship!!
    Birds of a feather flock……
    hehehehe

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  • @TT
    If you and denk found i stop responding or dissappear, it means i have successfully quit my addiction to read you guys funny comments, not some mishaps. Im in very safe 3rd world country now...but need to spend more quality time in my other interest. Unz took most of my data plan and time.

    I feel your pain.

    No need to disappear, just moderate you output,

    When I was younger and very gungho, I often did real time debate , even overnight.

    Such indulgence are taking its toll on me, eyes are failing and my day job is demanding,

    These days moderate my post to at most two sessions a day when I got the time, seldom do real time unless Im free and aint going anywhere like today ;-)

    Not need to quit,
    just take it easy and post whenever you find the time and feel like doing it.

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    In case you havent notice,

    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed, like you say, we need some quality time for ourself

    hhhhhh

    thats all folks,
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  • @Malla
    Well China decided to WMM us too. But we would not let them.

    http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/chinese-labourers-banned-from-indian-power-sector/521778/

    The government has banned Chinese labourers from working in the Indian power sector. What remains to be seen is whether Chinese power players will continue to bid on parts of larger projects if the hundreds of labourers required per project are banned from entering India, or if the Centre and much of the private sector will pitch in.

    "Those unskilled and semi-skilled workers can be found in India," home minister P Chidambaram told The Indian Express. "We are no longer approving visas for temporary workers."

    hhhhhhh

    WMM my ass !

    hundreds or even thousands of Chinese workers are just like a drop in that Indian ocean, !

    hhhhh

    You should visit Fiji for example,
    [tip of an iceberg]

    The Indian tsunami got so bad the native Fijians had to BAN further Indian WMM lest they became minorities in their own land, may be they already are !

    The Fijians got whacked by the “international communities’, read fukusI, for ‘unacceptable racial discrimination against Indian tsunami’, just like what they’r dissing out to Myanmar to day.

    WMM is our prerogative, do as I say, not what I do,
    sez fukusI

    hhhhh

    Or YOU CAN try Sg,
    wherever you go, you’d bump into Indian WMM, left , right and centre.

    Whiteys who mourn about white genocide ain seen nuthin yet,

    hhhhhh

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    You should visit Fiji for example
     
    I could not even tho I had a chance. I got on a flight to Fiji, but I guess, I got on wrong flight and I ended up in Taiwan. I went searching for native Taiwanese, found only Han and more Han and only Han in Taipei.

    hehehehehe

    WMM my ass !
     
    Wooo, were you stuck in migrant camp in Europe by mistake? Were you unfortunate victim there? Must have been a horrible experience, no wonder you are so emotionally scared.

    hehehehehe

    hundreds or even thousands of Chinese workers are just like a drop in that Indian ocean, !
     
    And already, the Indians cannot stand the Chinese workers?

    hehehehehe
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  • Hahahaha this is funny
    This is denk’s own link

    http://www.ilaam.net/Intl/IndiaTerrorist.html

    India has a long record of Anti-Americanism. On May 18, 1999, The Indian Express reported that Mr. Fernandes, the Defense Minister, organized and led a meeting with the Ambassadors from Red China, Cuba, Russia, Yugoslavia, Libya, and Iraq to discuss setting up a security alliance “to stop the U.S.”

    India votes against the United States at the United Nations more often than any country except Cuba. It had a long term friendship with the former Soviet Union and supported its invasion of Afghanistan.

    Hahahah fukusi[ndia] is a Chinese scam.

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    did I post that link ?

    LOL,


    Nixon, Kissinger, Indira Ghandi blah blah....

    Malla you'r so yesterday !

    A sample of some recent headlines.....

    Trump Discovers ‘Indo-Pacific’ on Asia Tour in Boost for India
    [make way China, Asia = Indo, hhhhhhh]

    Modi's enthusiastic bear hug beats Trump's handshake


    Donald Trump’s quotes on India: Narendra Modi is a great man, I am a fan of Hindus

    President Obama and India’s Modi Forge an Unlikely Friendship


    Hillary supported export of nuke technology to India after Clinton Foundation got cash infusion from Indian politician – and it wasn't even his own money!

    Hillary Clinton as next US president will be good news for India


    Kirchick: In India, they're missing George W. Bush - NY Daily ...
    Former president George Bush came to India last month in what marked his first overseas visit since leaving office in January - and was very warmly received.


    Manmohan to Bush: people of India love you

    tip of an iceberg !

    Indian are so anti fukus , the murkkans must be grade A masochists

    buahahahaha

    thats all folks !
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  • @Malla
    It is not funny at all, I agree
    Answer me this
    The whole world (the U.N, Western press) spoke about evil Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia (which was a lot of b.s.) but keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram in India?
    Are Indians more Anglo then Rhodesians or Afrikaners?

    No but post Nixon, every prez sez Indians are ‘our kind of guys’

    meaning fukusI[ndia] are one big happy tefloned family,

    nuthin sticks !

    hhhhh

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    But they support us so much that Western media talk about evul Apartheid, Evul Rhodesia (load of b.s.) but keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram? And even before Nixon, world media keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram? Media also keep quite about Bangladesh's Chittaging Hill tract people (who are similar to nagas in looks and culture). How is that possible?
    Indians and Bangladeshis are more Anglo than Rhodesians and Afrikaners? How iz dat more possible?

    hehehehehe
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  • @Malla
    And why you keep quite about Bangladesh/Pakistan?
    Only speak bad about India?

    Chittagong Hill tracts of Bangladesh
    Before colonization, the indigenous Jumma people of CHT were independent. There had been no external interference by any outside power in the affairs of the CHT until 1787, when an agreement was signed with the British, who started colonizing the area in 1860. From 1787 to 1860, the British government did not intervene in the internal administration of the CHT, then from 1860 to 1900 it administered CHT through a set of laws promulgated from time to time. For the maintenance of discipline among the police personnel in the CHT, Frontier Police Regulation III of 1881 was promulgated on the 7 December 1881 and the CHT Police Force was raised with indigenous Jumma people. In the interest of good governance of CHT, in 1900 the British government enacted the CHT Regulation 1 of 1900 and declared it as an Excluded Area in order to protect the Jumma people from economic exploitation by non-indigenous Bengali people, and to preserve their traditional socio-cultural and political institutions based on customary laws and communal ownership of land.
    In August 1947, the British handed over the administration of CHT to the government of Pakistan. The Pakistani government recognized CHT as an Excluded Area under the CHT Regulation of 1900 in the first Constitution of Pakistan adopted in 1956. However, from the outset the Pakistani government looked upon the Jumma people with an eye of suspicion for being anti-Pakistani as well as anti-Islam. The Jumma people were discriminated against in areas of employment, business, and education. Government policy was clearly revealed by the repeal of the CHT Frontier Police Regulation of 1881 that disbanded the Jumma police force in 1948.
    In 1950, implementing its brazen designs violating the principles and spirit of the CHT Regulation of 1900, the government of Pakistan started a Bengali Muslim settlement program which continued until 1966. The government enacted the CHT (Land Acquisition) Regulation in 1958 in order to grab the Jumma people’s ancestral lands. Moreover, the government snatched away the rights and privileges of the Jumma people by cancelling the Excluded Area status of the CHT in 1963. In 1960, in order to carry out its plan and break down the economic backbone of the Jumma people of the CHT in the name of so-called industrial development, the Pakistani government built the Kaptai hydro-electric dam on the Karnaphuli river in the heartland of the indigenous Jumma people.
    After nine months of war of independence against Pakistan, Bangladesh emerged as an independent state on 16 December 1971. The Jumma people, hoping that the new rulers of Bangladesh would realize their hopes and aspirations, demanded regional autonomy in a democratic way. Unfortunately, the government of Bangladesh did not respect their fundamental rights and did not write a single word in the Constitution regarding the entity and safeguard of the Jumma people. Rather, immediately following the independence of Bangladesh in early 1972 the CHT underwent militarization.
    When the democratic movement to safeguard the national existence of the Jumma people was negotiated by the government with repressive measures through the civil and police administrations, including through militarization with the construction of three Army cantonments, it forced Manabendra Narayan Larma, then MP and hero of the CHT Jumma movement, to call for an armed struggle. An armed wing of PCJSS was formed under the name Shanti Bahini (Peace Force). Since 1979, the Government of Bangladesh has undertaken a drastic program to settle the Bengali population from other districts of Bangladesh to CHT so they would outnumber the Jumma people, and to use them as human shields for the protection of Army personnel.

    Iz it becuz Pakistan and Bangladesh are good freinds of China and are joining OBOR?
    Chicom Hypocrisy!!!

    hehehehe

    LOL,

    ME no chicom,

    just that I hold India to a higher standard, what with all that jazz
    about ‘the world’s largest democracy’,

    hhhh

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    just that I hold India to a higher standard,
     
    You need not. We are folk tongued Indians remember. Need to hold your Pakistani friends to higher standards. They are paragons of truthfulness and kindness.

    hehehehe

    From link provided by you earlier

    https://www.sott.net/article/359163-The-Truth-Perspective-Weapons-of-Mass-Migration-Interview-with-Michael-Springmann-on-Europes-Migrant-Crisis

    Daesh or whatever you want to call them, but it's the same crowd of fanatical Muslims that the Americans, Saudis and Pakistanis had recruited, trained and supported all these years.

     

    So you Pak buddies have been on Murrikka's lap recruiting 'Warriors of Islam' for Zio- Murrica's use.
    But Pak is your best friend now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11dLOkzEhJw

    Check out the lovin in between Paks and Chins. Check from 0.24 seconds (English part out of Urdu) where the Pak leader narates his love for the Chinese Leadership in impeccable English (LOL) in front of his embarrassed aides.
    'Our freindship higher than the Himalayas
    Deeper than the deepest Sea in the World
    And Sweetest and Sweeter than Honey'

    Tears rolled down my eyes when I listened to this. What love, what friendship!!
    Birds of a feather flock......
    hehehehe
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  • @TT

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.
     
    Its foolish to call 5000yrs civilization of tradition Chinese culture as rotten. Every civilization has its own merits and cons.

    Singapore
    LKY himself emphasized much on traditional Chinese culture, esp Confucianism, as his corner stone to guide his own Hakka family/clans and rule the country. All his three children were purposely sent to study in Chinese medium school until high school to instill the Chinese value deep in them before moving on to higher English medium school merely because English is the dominating medium, not because English is any superior compare to Chinese, Japanese, Germans, French, Spanish....

    However, LKY had correctly see the important rise of English as business medium due to US hegemonic power. So English is adopted as first language for all English medium school, while different ethnics study their own mother tongue as 2nd language, namely Chinese, Malay, Tamil. But Nanyang University(before shut down to cutoff Chinese communist) & Chinese school like Hua Zhong High School still produce many of Singapore best elites, tycoons, bankers,... and ministers till these days.

    In LKY memoir, he cited his observation that those Chinese educated ones were most intelligence, very patriotic and willingly to sacrifice, esp communist, will give up their life for the good of country, while most English educated one embracing Anglo value were only seeking opportunities in prosperous time and flee on the moment of trouble.

    Long history of Organized Crimes
    Singapore has a long history of organized gangster culture involving all races(Indians, Malays, Eurasian too) till now which the older generation knew better or had directly involved. It also has one of biggest black economy (eg. leader in global soccer match fixing, Top10 money laundry country). Interestingly, all Anglo associated countries are the forefront in black economy too, with US the apex.

    Lee KY was ruthless in cracking down on organized gangs using infamous Internal Security Act(ISA), a open ended jail term without trial. ISA is most feared by all till this very day. It got nothing to do with English usage but a combination of many factors like good governing, improve living standard, education, etc.

    How SG police is so super efficient in crime control and arresting criminals?

    Here's the trick. Besides adopting all effective conventional tactics, Police and Gangs are closely linked. When a crime happens in a certain gang's territory, that gang chief is responsible. Only gangs know how to track down and restraint gangs efficiently in their own way and network.

    Police will arrest disobedient gangsters giving trouble, and co-exist with cooperative one. This is most efficient self-regulated controlled crime applied in most countries including yours. Don't be naive thinking there is no organized criminal gangs in some country.

    You got good knowledge of how things work in Singapore. And the organised crime scene here. Personally i like traids as they were they were formed to evict the manchus. A sort of brotherhood. As long as human biology is what it is, the mannerbund will be eternal.

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    Secret societies are prevalent in older time like 1950's-80. Now its more sophisticated syndicate. If you are not with ass, you are against ass... gangster is like George Bush. So either you join one to bully or get bullied ...

    The police has concluded its better to be the biggest organized gang so all gangs have to obey and toe their line to keep society safe, instead of playing cat & mouse. Only criminal know criminal mind.

    No one asks protection money now. 20yrs ago I personally heard one woman shopkeeper actually mocked a gangster asking for money. If she complaint, Police will beat up the gang's boss of that area and have him guaranteed the safety of complainants. Of course the boss know how to deal with that culprit that hurt his ass sorely. How efficient.

    But wonder why illegal prostitution is flourishing in such strict law enforcement Spore? LKY told, we could but shouldn't, clamp down prostitution. Otherwise our women will be harmed by many sailors on R&R (like Jpn Okinawa). No complaint, no raid.

    So you hardly find any woman there forced into prostitution by organized gangs like in the West or causing public nuisance. The pimp boss worry more than anyone for his business. Any complaint will land him in jail and lost his lucrative business.

    School bully and gang infiltration? I heard now all Spore school discipline masters are make volunteer uniform police, no asshole want to mess up with the biggest gang.

    What a genius to come out with all such systems-Self regulated controlled crimes.
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  • @denk

    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too.
     
    You should try interviewing some Nagas how they feel about said 'concessions' !

    Is it supposed to write off the 300000 Nagas who're ,,,
    Shot to death, starved to death. , tortured to death and rape to death ?

    It'd be funny if it hadnt been so brutal .

    hhhhhh

    And why you keep quite about Bangladesh/Pakistan?
    Only speak bad about India?

    Chittagong Hill tracts of Bangladesh
    Before colonization, the indigenous Jumma people of CHT were independent. There had been no external interference by any outside power in the affairs of the CHT until 1787, when an agreement was signed with the British, who started colonizing the area in 1860. From 1787 to 1860, the British government did not intervene in the internal administration of the CHT, then from 1860 to 1900 it administered CHT through a set of laws promulgated from time to time. For the maintenance of discipline among the police personnel in the CHT, Frontier Police Regulation III of 1881 was promulgated on the 7 December 1881 and the CHT Police Force was raised with indigenous Jumma people. In the interest of good governance of CHT, in 1900 the British government enacted the CHT Regulation 1 of 1900 and declared it as an Excluded Area in order to protect the Jumma people from economic exploitation by non-indigenous Bengali people, and to preserve their traditional socio-cultural and political institutions based on customary laws and communal ownership of land.
    In August 1947, the British handed over the administration of CHT to the government of Pakistan. The Pakistani government recognized CHT as an Excluded Area under the CHT Regulation of 1900 in the first Constitution of Pakistan adopted in 1956. However, from the outset the Pakistani government looked upon the Jumma people with an eye of suspicion for being anti-Pakistani as well as anti-Islam. The Jumma people were discriminated against in areas of employment, business, and education. Government policy was clearly revealed by the repeal of the CHT Frontier Police Regulation of 1881 that disbanded the Jumma police force in 1948.
    In 1950, implementing its brazen designs violating the principles and spirit of the CHT Regulation of 1900, the government of Pakistan started a Bengali Muslim settlement program which continued until 1966. The government enacted the CHT (Land Acquisition) Regulation in 1958 in order to grab the Jumma people’s ancestral lands. Moreover, the government snatched away the rights and privileges of the Jumma people by cancelling the Excluded Area status of the CHT in 1963. In 1960, in order to carry out its plan and break down the economic backbone of the Jumma people of the CHT in the name of so-called industrial development, the Pakistani government built the Kaptai hydro-electric dam on the Karnaphuli river in the heartland of the indigenous Jumma people.
    After nine months of war of independence against Pakistan, Bangladesh emerged as an independent state on 16 December 1971. The Jumma people, hoping that the new rulers of Bangladesh would realize their hopes and aspirations, demanded regional autonomy in a democratic way. Unfortunately, the government of Bangladesh did not respect their fundamental rights and did not write a single word in the Constitution regarding the entity and safeguard of the Jumma people. Rather, immediately following the independence of Bangladesh in early 1972 the CHT underwent militarization.
    When the democratic movement to safeguard the national existence of the Jumma people was negotiated by the government with repressive measures through the civil and police administrations, including through militarization with the construction of three Army cantonments, it forced Manabendra Narayan Larma, then MP and hero of the CHT Jumma movement, to call for an armed struggle. An armed wing of PCJSS was formed under the name Shanti Bahini (Peace Force). Since 1979, the Government of Bangladesh has undertaken a drastic program to settle the Bengali population from other districts of Bangladesh to CHT so they would outnumber the Jumma people, and to use them as human shields for the protection of Army personnel.

    Iz it becuz Pakistan and Bangladesh are good freinds of China and are joining OBOR?
    Chicom Hypocrisy!!!

    hehehehe

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    LOL,

    ME no chicom,

    just that I hold India to a higher standard, what with all that jazz
    about 'the world's largest democracy',

    hhhh
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  • @denk

    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too.
     
    You should try interviewing some Nagas how they feel about said 'concessions' !

    Is it supposed to write off the 300000 Nagas who're ,,,
    Shot to death, starved to death. , tortured to death and rape to death ?

    It'd be funny if it hadnt been so brutal .

    hhhhhh

    It is not funny at all, I agree
    Answer me this
    The whole world (the U.N, Western press) spoke about evil Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia (which was a lot of b.s.) but keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram in India?
    Are Indians more Anglo then Rhodesians or Afrikaners?

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    No but post Nixon, every prez sez Indians are 'our kind of guys'

    meaning fukusI[ndia] are one big happy tefloned family,

    nuthin sticks !


    hhhhh
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  • @denk
    Not you,

    Ask the native American Indians about how paled face speaking in forked tongue.

    They must be turning in their grave knowing that ..

    South Asia Indians also speak with forked tongues !

    Thats you guys.,
    hhhhh

    You mean what I fork tongued Asian Indian said was all lies in that post, opposite of truth?
    So truth would be
    ‘China is imperfect hell, violently sinking Middle Kingdom, full of scaly reptilian devils with imbalance of yin and yang, no milk, no honey, no baiju anywhere’

    There, I guess that is the truth now.

    hehehehehe

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  • @Malla
    What I learn on Unz from denk

    People's Republic of China
    http://newsroom.unl.edu/announce/files/file24537.jpg

    Anglo World
    http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/b03b442758d2c6dfb65cb1739285baa2.jpg

    Japan
    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/48/e4/15/48e41552b9a16bdff8f8825eafce587c--japanese-film-movie-stars.jpg

    India
    http://drop.ndtv.com/albums/ENTERTAINMENT/bollywoods-20-best-characters/crimemaster-gogo.jpg

    ---------------------------

    Why does denk waste time writing posts? Denk should just post above post on all Unz pages and throughout the Internet and we will understand. We will get the message. He can save his time and efforts.
    hehehehe

    I also learn the difference from denk and TT
    between
    Chicoms

    and Vietcoms

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  • @Malla
    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too. Just like Han give concessions to minorities in PRC like exemption from One Child Policy.
    NE Indians do not have to pay many taxes paid by mainland Indians. Also mainland Indians cannot buy land in many NE states, can only lease land. NE people face more threat from Bangladeshi migrants than mainlander Indians. Though many mainlander Indian mercantile communities like Marwaris exploit North East Indians but they cannot own land, only lease, by government rule. Only in NE state of Tripura have the natives (like Kock Borok) become minority (WMMed) as Bengali Hindus moved there in millions to escape Bengali Muslims in 1971 War. Bengali Hindus have become majority there.

    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too.

    You should try interviewing some Nagas how they feel about said ‘concessions’ !

    Is it supposed to write off the 300000 Nagas who’re ,,,
    Shot to death, starved to death. , tortured to death and rape to death ?

    It’d be funny if it hadnt been so brutal .

    hhhhhh

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    It is not funny at all, I agree
    Answer me this
    The whole world (the U.N, Western press) spoke about evil Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia (which was a lot of b.s.) but keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram in India?
    Are Indians more Anglo then Rhodesians or Afrikaners?
    , @Malla
    And why you keep quite about Bangladesh/Pakistan?
    Only speak bad about India?

    Chittagong Hill tracts of Bangladesh
    Before colonization, the indigenous Jumma people of CHT were independent. There had been no external interference by any outside power in the affairs of the CHT until 1787, when an agreement was signed with the British, who started colonizing the area in 1860. From 1787 to 1860, the British government did not intervene in the internal administration of the CHT, then from 1860 to 1900 it administered CHT through a set of laws promulgated from time to time. For the maintenance of discipline among the police personnel in the CHT, Frontier Police Regulation III of 1881 was promulgated on the 7 December 1881 and the CHT Police Force was raised with indigenous Jumma people. In the interest of good governance of CHT, in 1900 the British government enacted the CHT Regulation 1 of 1900 and declared it as an Excluded Area in order to protect the Jumma people from economic exploitation by non-indigenous Bengali people, and to preserve their traditional socio-cultural and political institutions based on customary laws and communal ownership of land.
    In August 1947, the British handed over the administration of CHT to the government of Pakistan. The Pakistani government recognized CHT as an Excluded Area under the CHT Regulation of 1900 in the first Constitution of Pakistan adopted in 1956. However, from the outset the Pakistani government looked upon the Jumma people with an eye of suspicion for being anti-Pakistani as well as anti-Islam. The Jumma people were discriminated against in areas of employment, business, and education. Government policy was clearly revealed by the repeal of the CHT Frontier Police Regulation of 1881 that disbanded the Jumma police force in 1948.
    In 1950, implementing its brazen designs violating the principles and spirit of the CHT Regulation of 1900, the government of Pakistan started a Bengali Muslim settlement program which continued until 1966. The government enacted the CHT (Land Acquisition) Regulation in 1958 in order to grab the Jumma people’s ancestral lands. Moreover, the government snatched away the rights and privileges of the Jumma people by cancelling the Excluded Area status of the CHT in 1963. In 1960, in order to carry out its plan and break down the economic backbone of the Jumma people of the CHT in the name of so-called industrial development, the Pakistani government built the Kaptai hydro-electric dam on the Karnaphuli river in the heartland of the indigenous Jumma people.
    After nine months of war of independence against Pakistan, Bangladesh emerged as an independent state on 16 December 1971. The Jumma people, hoping that the new rulers of Bangladesh would realize their hopes and aspirations, demanded regional autonomy in a democratic way. Unfortunately, the government of Bangladesh did not respect their fundamental rights and did not write a single word in the Constitution regarding the entity and safeguard of the Jumma people. Rather, immediately following the independence of Bangladesh in early 1972 the CHT underwent militarization.
    When the democratic movement to safeguard the national existence of the Jumma people was negotiated by the government with repressive measures through the civil and police administrations, including through militarization with the construction of three Army cantonments, it forced Manabendra Narayan Larma, then MP and hero of the CHT Jumma movement, to call for an armed struggle. An armed wing of PCJSS was formed under the name Shanti Bahini (Peace Force). Since 1979, the Government of Bangladesh has undertaken a drastic program to settle the Bengali population from other districts of Bangladesh to CHT so they would outnumber the Jumma people, and to use them as human shields for the protection of Army personnel.

    Iz it becuz Pakistan and Bangladesh are good freinds of China and are joining OBOR?
    Chicom Hypocrisy!!!

    hehehehe

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  • @Malla

    just ask the Indians !
     
    Me Indian sez 'China is perfect heaven, peaceful rising Middle Kingdom (rising so fast peacefully that it will escape Earth's gravity very soon), full of fluffy panda angels with perfect balance of yin and yang, land of milk and honey and baiju fountains everywhere.'
    Even Borat agree with me.
    hehehehe

    Not you,

    Ask the native American Indians about how paled face speaking in forked tongue.

    They must be turning in their grave knowing that ..

    South Asia Indians also speak with forked tongues !

    Thats you guys.,
    hhhhh

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    You mean what I fork tongued Asian Indian said was all lies in that post, opposite of truth?
    So truth would be
    'China is imperfect hell, violently sinking Middle Kingdom, full of scaly reptilian devils with imbalance of yin and yang, no milk, no honey, no baiju anywhere'

    There, I guess that is the truth now.

    hehehehehe
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  • What I learn on Unz from denk

    People’s Republic of China

    Anglo World

    Japan

    India

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    Why does denk waste time writing posts? Denk should just post above post on all Unz pages and throughout the Internet and we will understand. We will get the message. He can save his time and efforts.
    hehehehe

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    I also learn the difference from denk and TT
    between
    Chicoms
    http://www.iisg.nl/landsberger/images/c05.jpg

    and Vietcoms
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WRoDNsy4HfM/maxresdefault.jpg
    , @TT

    Why does denk waste time writing posts? Denk should just post above post on all Unz pages and throughout the Internet and we will understand. We will get the message. He can save his time and efforts.
     
    LoL. That's really a good one. You have beaten denk, Pro since 1998. If all Chinese & Indians are like you both, China & India can be real BaBa brothers.
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  • @denk

    both are dishonest and untrustworthy
     
    Paled face speaking in forked tongue,

    just ask the Indians !

    hhhhhhh

    just ask the Indians !

    Me Indian sez ‘China is perfect heaven, peaceful rising Middle Kingdom (rising so fast peacefully that it will escape Earth’s gravity very soon), full of fluffy panda angels with perfect balance of yin and yang, land of milk and honey and baiju fountains everywhere.’
    Even Borat agree with me.
    hehehehe

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    Not you,

    Ask the native American Indians about how paled face speaking in forked tongue.

    They must be turning in their grave knowing that ..

    South Asia Indians also speak with forked tongues !

    Thats you guys.,
    hhhhh
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  • @TT

    The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.
     
    Name one country esp in the West who speak English as primary language but has no corruption or gang activities? While you are glorifying English as moral superior Language that when adopted will eliminate crimes in Asia, yet all English speaking Anglo countries are themselves the most corrupted with highest crime rates in world ranking, esp USUK!

    Anglos might be very established to legalize big corruptions like Clinton's fund while keeping daily small deal clean, even legalizing drugs usage as Opoid, still their high crimes rate can't be hidden.

    The biggest drug organizers are also mostly educated & sophisticated western English speaking drug lords, CIA is the chief Godfather(quote Globalresearch) large scale farming in Afghanistan, transporting in tonnes using container cargo and flight under diplomats cover.

    You might want to educate yourself that all Mandarin speaking countries (China, Taiwan, HK, Singapore) and most Asia(Japan, Korea) that you mentioned, all have the top10 lowest crime rates, while all English speaking anglo countries like US, UK, Australia,... have highest crimes rating.

    Your nonsensical claim is thus without merits.

    http://chartsbin.com/view/39717

    http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate

    Who are Singapore Chinese diaspora
    Lee Kuang Yew was the only gold medalist of Cambridge University, first and only one in 15yrs history no British can achieved. Yet he spent much time to learn Chinese till his old age, not English. Singapore, with 75% Chinese ethnics majority still speaking Mandarin, is as some had highly appraised, equivalent to Northern Europe, having many Top global rankings well above every Anglo countries.

    These highly achieved Chinese diaspora, are what LeeKY reminded the West: "If you think Spore is highly achieved, then you should know we(including him) are only the descendants of poor China peasants who came Singapore to work as labour. The real elites are all in China and Taiwan KMT. What we had/can achieve, they will do in many folds given similar peaceful condition."

    That really scare the shits out of all Potus and Congress elites everytime he reminded them to work with China for a peaceful rise. Trumps is first Potus to miss that important message after LKY death.

    while all English speaking anglo countries like US, UK, Australia,… have highest crimes rating.

    What? US, UK, Australia have highest crime rating?
    They have higher crime rating than Haiti? Guatemala? Brazil? Venezuela?

    Non Anglos commit crimes in these countries far above their percentage of population. Remove non Anglos and the crime rate will plummet.

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    Check out the crime ratings websites link. Don't worry, Indians will overwhelm these criminals very soon, Anglo or not. They aren't aware of Indian power of real criminal until they see it, and make the untouchable lower caste in US.
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  • @TT

    Cannot sit idly by!!! Had to sit idly by because when Soviets thunder, Chicoms (and murricans/Brits) shivered.
     
    This repeated comment is not true. China & US aren't afraid of Soviet if they need to attack India.

    China probably think its not justifiable if Pak was really at fault, even tho they had allied up against India threat. Without China ground involvement, US can't defend Pak against Soviet & India.

    China had proven itself in Vietnam war against Soviet threat, and against US nuclear threat in Korean War. This is why US takes Chinese warning very serious, but not Russian.

    1. Under Soviet threat, China enmassed 1.5M troops at Soviet border, went ahead to attacked Vietnam without US military backing. Nuclear armed Soviet failed to honor its 25yrs mutual defense treaty with Viet.

    Loud thunder storm without rain is empty.

    2. US aggressively risked nuclear war with Soviet in Cuba missile crisis, embargo Cuba, blockaged Soviet ships and forced its nuclear submarine to surface which tantamount to act of war. Soviet withdrawn. Im not a fan to justify this hedgmon US crazy challenge to nuclear armed Soviet, but truth should prevail.

    Wonder where are the 1.4B mainland Chinese, always depending on few foreigners to help defend China.

    Wiki.


    On November 3, 1978, the Soviet Union and Vietnam signed a 25-year mutual defense treaty, which made Vietnam the "linchpin" in the Soviet Union's "drive to contain China."[52]

    On January 1, 1979, Chinese Vice-premier Deng Xiaoping visited the United States for the first time and told American president Jimmy Carter: "The little child is getting naughty, it's time he get spanked." (original Chinese words: 小朋友不听话,该打打屁股了。).[53]
    On February 15, the first day that China could have officially announced the termination of the 1950 Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance and Mutual Assistance, Deng Xiaoping declared that China planned to conduct a limited attack on Vietnam.
     

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China's ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam's ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China. To prevent Soviet intervention on Vietnam's behalf, Deng warned Moscow the next day that China was prepared for a full-scale war against the Soviet Union; in preparation for this conflict, China put all of its troops along the Sino-Soviet border on an emergency war alert, set up a new military command in Xinjiang, and even evacuated an estimated 300,000 civilians from the Sino-Soviet border.[54] In addition, the bulk of China's active forces (as many as one-and-a-half million troops) were stationed along China's border with the Soviet Union.[55]
     

    Wonder where are the 1.4B mainland Chinese, always depending on few foreigners to help defend China.

    I feel your pain. !

    But dont blame the Chinese, I doubt even 1% frequent any English forums, let alone political sites/

    Trouble is,
    The CCP has absolutely no idea of information warfare.

    Every country’s embassies have dedicated personnels to scour the local press for ‘negative’ stories and to counter it when necessary.
    I’ve never seen Chinese embassies doing this duty.

    Even discrepit Indonesia has embassy staffs monitoring Chinese media, no less !
    I was surprised some years back when Indon embassy wrote to the Chinese mag ‘Asiaweek’ to ‘clarify’ some perceived errors in a story about Indon !

    No wonder China has such a negative image in the world today..
    fukusi rumour mills have the field all to themselves !

    Its left to old men like us who couldnt stand all the B.S. and take it up on ourself to do something about it .
    YOu’r right, what a thankless job. !

    If only CCP would give me one dollar for every post I wrote since 1999,
    hhhhhhhh

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    No wonder China has such a negative image in the world today..
    fukusi rumour mills have the field all to themselves !

    Its left to old men like us who couldnt stand all the B.S. and take it up on ourself to do something about it .
    YOu’r right, what a thankless job. !

    If only CCP would give me one dollar for every post I wrote since 1999,
     
    May be i will change to new handle called Chicom troll. Then no need to defense myself anymore.

    Xi, Putin, Kim, Assad, Aungsan,..haven't paid even 1cent for all my hardwork. My report used to worth more than US$25k. They should at least reimburse my data cost, or grant me free citizenship to travel freely.

    Indians are very diligent to write obvious distorted propaganda on China everywhere, even Spore Straits Times and west msm published such junks.

    Well i need some rest now. You strive on with coy Malla cheering for you, since 1999.
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  • @Orwellian State
    Interesting article. To be sure there are a lot of similarities as well as difference between the Chinese and the Jews. Some of their key similarities are:
    - both are good in business
    - both place high emphasis on education and family
    - both are clannish, though the Jews much more so than the Chinese
    - both tend to be the successful minority group wherever they land
    - both are dishonest and untrustworthy

    But the similarity ends there. IMO the single biggest difference between the Jews and the Chinese is this:

    The Jews are idealistic to a fault, while the Chinese are the exact opposite, pragmatic to a fault.

    The Jews started or dominated Judeo-Christianism, Marxism, Socialism, Communism, Zionism, Liberalism, Hedonism, Hippism, Tribalism, Cronyism, Neoconservatism, dominate Capitalism, basically invented every fecking -ism in the world, while the only -ism that stuck with the Chinese is Pragmatism.

    I think a lot of this is due to the Jewish intelligence being mainly verbal, while the Chinese intelligence being mainly spatial/mathematical.

    But this key difference is the reason why Jews tend to get involved in politics, the law, media, academia, while the Chinese tend to steer clear of those fields and concentrate in business or engineering. A perfect example is in Malaysia, where the Chinese have been highly discriminated for 5 decades, yet they rarely make a fuss, continue to keep their heads down, work hard, and look for ways to emigrate rather than try to get into politics to change their predicament. The Jews under similar circumstance would've organized and tried to take over the governments in these countries. Perhaps it's as Alan Dershowitz said, Jews have Chutzpah, which makes them much more confrontational, while the Chinese eschew confrontations.

    both are dishonest and untrustworthy

    Paled face speaking in forked tongue,

    just ask the Indians !

    hhhhhhh

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    just ask the Indians !
     
    Me Indian sez 'China is perfect heaven, peaceful rising Middle Kingdom (rising so fast peacefully that it will escape Earth's gravity very soon), full of fluffy panda angels with perfect balance of yin and yang, land of milk and honey and baiju fountains everywhere.'
    Even Borat agree with me.
    hehehehe
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  • @Malla

    The appointment of some locals to high officialdom in NE
     
    High officialdom in only NE????
    Kiren Rijiju, is Union Minister of State for Home Affairs of All India.
    Minister of State of Home Affairs. He can decide fate of mainland Indian states. He controls all police in all India. He is that powerful!!!

    He controls all police in all India. He is that powerful!!!

    Hmm

    So they appoint a NE man to oversee the rape of NE ?

    Like adding insult to injury !

    hhhhhh

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  • @Malla
    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too. Just like Han give concessions to minorities in PRC like exemption from One Child Policy.
    NE Indians do not have to pay many taxes paid by mainland Indians. Also mainland Indians cannot buy land in many NE states, can only lease land. NE people face more threat from Bangladeshi migrants than mainlander Indians. Though many mainlander Indian mercantile communities like Marwaris exploit North East Indians but they cannot own land, only lease, by government rule. Only in NE state of Tripura have the natives (like Kock Borok) become minority (WMMed) as Bengali Hindus moved there in millions to escape Bengali Muslims in 1971 War. Bengali Hindus have become majority there.

    Heartlanders are right to call them chinki terrorists, look its obvious they are like some Yunnan tribal no matter how they assimilate.

    Illegally hiding inside India forest with those long string weapon and scanty army uniform, for sure they have no gd intend but forcing Indian armies to rape them for self defense, then they cry foul. What a cunning terrorist.

    Ahh… so these women are actually minority ethnics of India, not illegal sneak in terrorists. They look nothing Indian but absolutely of China minority ethnics, how they ended up been in India land becoming its minority, targeted as chinki terrorists?

    So Indian has grabbed their land again and blamed them for wearing scanty uniform fighting with string instruments, what a sins they have done. Still malevolent Indian gave them tax concession after violating them as punishment, how kind our indies… hehehehe…

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  • @Orwellian State

    However, none of those countries (other than Singapore) is really comparable to the Northern Euros.
     
    Singapore is the only Chinese dominant society that uses English as its lingua franca. Lee Kuan Yew was educated in the UK and was very pro-British in his early years. I think that has a lot to do with why Singapore is such a clean(both figurative and literal) and safe country.

    HK was ruled by the British for 100 years, but the HKers kept Chinese as their lingua franca, they never fully adopted English norms, and remained very much a Chinese society, which is why the triads ran wild there for a while, while the British turned a blind eye. Many of these triads came from China, they were chased out of China by the Chinese Communist party in 1949. Since HK reverted back to Chinese control in 1997, there have been massive crackdowns with mass arrests. The last one occured in 2015 with some 4,300 arrested in HK. In a span of a few months in 2015 the Chinese government arrested 43,000 gang members in Southern China. These days they keep a low profile in HK.

    Taiwan is the same way, except it was never ruled by a western power, but by Japan. Taiwan has a very large black market economy, with the triads pretty much running the underground economy of gambling, drugs, money laundering, trafficking, prostitution etc. They operate under the tacit acceptance of the government, and has mass influence over the government.

    The Yakuzas in Japan also run a similar black market economy and operate under the tacit acceptance of the government.South Korea also has prominent gangs.

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    All the illicit activities in the Chinese diaspora are among people who still speak Chinese. The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.

    The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.

    Name one country esp in the West who speak English as primary language but has no corruption or gang activities? While you are glorifying English as moral superior Language that when adopted will eliminate crimes in Asia, yet all English speaking Anglo countries are themselves the most corrupted with highest crime rates in world ranking, esp USUK!

    Anglos might be very established to legalize big corruptions like Clinton’s fund while keeping daily small deal clean, even legalizing drugs usage as Opoid, still their high crimes rate can’t be hidden.

    The biggest drug organizers are also mostly educated & sophisticated western English speaking drug lords, CIA is the chief Godfather(quote Globalresearch) large scale farming in Afghanistan, transporting in tonnes using container cargo and flight under diplomats cover.

    You might want to educate yourself that all Mandarin speaking countries (China, Taiwan, HK, Singapore) and most Asia(Japan, Korea) that you mentioned, all have the top10 lowest crime rates, while all English speaking anglo countries like US, UK, Australia,… have highest crimes rating.

    Your nonsensical claim is thus without merits.

    http://chartsbin.com/view/39717

    http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate

    Who are Singapore Chinese diaspora
    Lee Kuang Yew was the only gold medalist of Cambridge University, first and only one in 15yrs history no British can achieved. Yet he spent much time to learn Chinese till his old age, not English. Singapore, with 75% Chinese ethnics majority still speaking Mandarin, is as some had highly appraised, equivalent to Northern Europe, having many Top global rankings well above every Anglo countries.

    These highly achieved Chinese diaspora, are what LeeKY reminded the West: “If you think Spore is highly achieved, then you should know we(including him) are only the descendants of poor China peasants who came Singapore to work as labour. The real elites are all in China and Taiwan KMT. What we had/can achieve, they will do in many folds given similar peaceful condition.”

    That really scare the shits out of all Potus and Congress elites everytime he reminded them to work with China for a peaceful rise. Trumps is first Potus to miss that important message after LKY death.

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    while all English speaking anglo countries like US, UK, Australia,… have highest crimes rating.
     
    What? US, UK, Australia have highest crime rating?
    They have higher crime rating than Haiti? Guatemala? Brazil? Venezuela?

    Non Anglos commit crimes in these countries far above their percentage of population. Remove non Anglos and the crime rate will plummet.
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  • @Orwellian State

    However, none of those countries (other than Singapore) is really comparable to the Northern Euros.
     
    Singapore is the only Chinese dominant society that uses English as its lingua franca. Lee Kuan Yew was educated in the UK and was very pro-British in his early years. I think that has a lot to do with why Singapore is such a clean(both figurative and literal) and safe country.

    HK was ruled by the British for 100 years, but the HKers kept Chinese as their lingua franca, they never fully adopted English norms, and remained very much a Chinese society, which is why the triads ran wild there for a while, while the British turned a blind eye. Many of these triads came from China, they were chased out of China by the Chinese Communist party in 1949. Since HK reverted back to Chinese control in 1997, there have been massive crackdowns with mass arrests. The last one occured in 2015 with some 4,300 arrested in HK. In a span of a few months in 2015 the Chinese government arrested 43,000 gang members in Southern China. These days they keep a low profile in HK.

    Taiwan is the same way, except it was never ruled by a western power, but by Japan. Taiwan has a very large black market economy, with the triads pretty much running the underground economy of gambling, drugs, money laundering, trafficking, prostitution etc. They operate under the tacit acceptance of the government, and has mass influence over the government.

    The Yakuzas in Japan also run a similar black market economy and operate under the tacit acceptance of the government.South Korea also has prominent gangs.

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    All the illicit activities in the Chinese diaspora are among people who still speak Chinese. The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.

    All the illicit activities in the Chinese diaspora are among people who still speak Chinese.

    This is like saying all child sexual crimes in the UK paedophiles are among people who still speak English. Sure some speak wales, scottish, Irish…

    In fact, many Chinese diaspora couldn’t speak Mandarin, let alone those uneducated criminals. No gangster will speak Mandarin to make himself a laughing stock bcos its a language deemed as used by weakling educated gentleman. Gangster prefer to use their own macho dialects with jargon peppered with obscene fxxk and sending regards to others mother private parts. Using Mandarin is like Anglo mafia using Shakespeare’s old English poetic language, not very eloquent and awkward.

    Nowsaday most criminals are better educated, speak English. They utilize IT to run criminal business efficiently eluding Police tracking, like illegal loan shark. They employed professionals and set up front shops to launder money, legalize and corporatize their illicit business. Those still using dialects are been look down as obsolete uneducated gangs.

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  • @Orwellian State

    However, none of those countries (other than Singapore) is really comparable to the Northern Euros.
     
    Singapore is the only Chinese dominant society that uses English as its lingua franca. Lee Kuan Yew was educated in the UK and was very pro-British in his early years. I think that has a lot to do with why Singapore is such a clean(both figurative and literal) and safe country.

    HK was ruled by the British for 100 years, but the HKers kept Chinese as their lingua franca, they never fully adopted English norms, and remained very much a Chinese society, which is why the triads ran wild there for a while, while the British turned a blind eye. Many of these triads came from China, they were chased out of China by the Chinese Communist party in 1949. Since HK reverted back to Chinese control in 1997, there have been massive crackdowns with mass arrests. The last one occured in 2015 with some 4,300 arrested in HK. In a span of a few months in 2015 the Chinese government arrested 43,000 gang members in Southern China. These days they keep a low profile in HK.

    Taiwan is the same way, except it was never ruled by a western power, but by Japan. Taiwan has a very large black market economy, with the triads pretty much running the underground economy of gambling, drugs, money laundering, trafficking, prostitution etc. They operate under the tacit acceptance of the government, and has mass influence over the government.

    The Yakuzas in Japan also run a similar black market economy and operate under the tacit acceptance of the government.South Korea also has prominent gangs.

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    All the illicit activities in the Chinese diaspora are among people who still speak Chinese. The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    Its foolish to call 5000yrs civilization of tradition Chinese culture as rotten. Every civilization has its own merits and cons.

    Singapore
    LKY himself emphasized much on traditional Chinese culture, esp Confucianism, as his corner stone to guide his own Hakka family/clans and rule the country. All his three children were purposely sent to study in Chinese medium school until high school to instill the Chinese value deep in them before moving on to higher English medium school merely because English is the dominating medium, not because English is any superior compare to Chinese, Japanese, Germans, French, Spanish….

    However, LKY had correctly see the important rise of English as business medium due to US hegemonic power. So English is adopted as first language for all English medium school, while different ethnics study their own mother tongue as 2nd language, namely Chinese, Malay, Tamil. But Nanyang University(before shut down to cutoff Chinese communist) & Chinese school like Hua Zhong High School still produce many of Singapore best elites, tycoons, bankers,… and ministers till these days.

    In LKY memoir, he cited his observation that those Chinese educated ones were most intelligence, very patriotic and willingly to sacrifice, esp communist, will give up their life for the good of country, while most English educated one embracing Anglo value were only seeking opportunities in prosperous time and flee on the moment of trouble.

    Long history of Organized Crimes
    Singapore has a long history of organized gangster culture involving all races(Indians, Malays, Eurasian too) till now which the older generation knew better or had directly involved. It also has one of biggest black economy (eg. leader in global soccer match fixing, Top10 money laundry country). Interestingly, all Anglo associated countries are the forefront in black economy too, with US the apex.

    Lee KY was ruthless in cracking down on organized gangs using infamous Internal Security Act(ISA), a open ended jail term without trial. ISA is most feared by all till this very day. It got nothing to do with English usage but a combination of many factors like good governing, improve living standard, education, etc.

    How SG police is so super efficient in crime control and arresting criminals?

    Here’s the trick. Besides adopting all effective conventional tactics, Police and Gangs are closely linked. When a crime happens in a certain gang’s territory, that gang chief is responsible. Only gangs know how to track down and restraint gangs efficiently in their own way and network.

    Police will arrest disobedient gangsters giving trouble, and co-exist with cooperative one. This is most efficient self-regulated controlled crime applied in most countries including yours. Don’t be naive thinking there is no organized criminal gangs in some country.

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    You got good knowledge of how things work in Singapore. And the organised crime scene here. Personally i like traids as they were they were formed to evict the manchus. A sort of brotherhood. As long as human biology is what it is, the mannerbund will be eternal.
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  • @Orwellian State

    However, none of those countries (other than Singapore) is really comparable to the Northern Euros.
     
    Singapore is the only Chinese dominant society that uses English as its lingua franca. Lee Kuan Yew was educated in the UK and was very pro-British in his early years. I think that has a lot to do with why Singapore is such a clean(both figurative and literal) and safe country.

    HK was ruled by the British for 100 years, but the HKers kept Chinese as their lingua franca, they never fully adopted English norms, and remained very much a Chinese society, which is why the triads ran wild there for a while, while the British turned a blind eye. Many of these triads came from China, they were chased out of China by the Chinese Communist party in 1949. Since HK reverted back to Chinese control in 1997, there have been massive crackdowns with mass arrests. The last one occured in 2015 with some 4,300 arrested in HK. In a span of a few months in 2015 the Chinese government arrested 43,000 gang members in Southern China. These days they keep a low profile in HK.

    Taiwan is the same way, except it was never ruled by a western power, but by Japan. Taiwan has a very large black market economy, with the triads pretty much running the underground economy of gambling, drugs, money laundering, trafficking, prostitution etc. They operate under the tacit acceptance of the government, and has mass influence over the government.

    The Yakuzas in Japan also run a similar black market economy and operate under the tacit acceptance of the government.South Korea also has prominent gangs.

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    All the illicit activities in the Chinese diaspora are among people who still speak Chinese. The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.

    HK was ruled by the British for 100 years, but the HKers kept Chinese as their lingua franca, they never fully adopted English norms, and remained very much a Chinese society, which is why the triads ran wild there for a while, while the British turned a blind eye.

    HK
    Under British 100yrs ruling, HKers never kept Mandarin Chinese as their lingua franca simply because majority aren’t educated to speak Mandarin at all. They only can speak Cantonese, with some English.

    Yes, HK was full of crimes because corrupted British turning a blind eye, either of no goodwills or utter negligent. Upon returning to China, crimes were massively cracked down and HK today has lowest crime rate. Did HK people all start speaking English and adopt English norm after China took over like you said a prerequisite for safe clean country? No, most actually start learning Chinese and speak Mandarin, while their Cantonese traditional life goes on.

    Ironically, those countries uses English as lingual franca and fully adopted English norms, are having highest crime rates. Where Anglo touches, it becomes crime infested corrupted place.

    Taiwan
    Whereas for Taiwan, KMT had brought over the original Chinese language 繁体字 and traditional culture together with many Chinese elites, and preserved till these days without been destroyed by Culture Revolution in China or affected by China simplified Chinese writing 简体字. These are real preserved traditional Chinese culture.

    And most Taiwanese actually speak their local dialect闽南语, similar to Hokkien 福建话use in Asean, or a mixture with Mandarin. Those triads and gangsters are more inclined to use common macho dialect instead of Mandarin usually spoken by the educated deemed a weakling. Taiwan is actually ranked among lowest crimes rate country, although their triads have high standing in global secret society.

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  • @Orwellian State

    However, none of those countries (other than Singapore) is really comparable to the Northern Euros.
     
    Singapore is the only Chinese dominant society that uses English as its lingua franca. Lee Kuan Yew was educated in the UK and was very pro-British in his early years. I think that has a lot to do with why Singapore is such a clean(both figurative and literal) and safe country.

    HK was ruled by the British for 100 years, but the HKers kept Chinese as their lingua franca, they never fully adopted English norms, and remained very much a Chinese society, which is why the triads ran wild there for a while, while the British turned a blind eye. Many of these triads came from China, they were chased out of China by the Chinese Communist party in 1949. Since HK reverted back to Chinese control in 1997, there have been massive crackdowns with mass arrests. The last one occured in 2015 with some 4,300 arrested in HK. In a span of a few months in 2015 the Chinese government arrested 43,000 gang members in Southern China. These days they keep a low profile in HK.

    Taiwan is the same way, except it was never ruled by a western power, but by Japan. Taiwan has a very large black market economy, with the triads pretty much running the underground economy of gambling, drugs, money laundering, trafficking, prostitution etc. They operate under the tacit acceptance of the government, and has mass influence over the government.

    The Yakuzas in Japan also run a similar black market economy and operate under the tacit acceptance of the government.South Korea also has prominent gangs.

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    All the illicit activities in the Chinese diaspora are among people who still speak Chinese. The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.

    First, let us make clear that Chinese speak many kind of languages and dialects, not just Mandarin Chinese. For the China official language used in Beijing its better to just call it Mandarin (Chinese) here to avoid confusing with dialects. Many Chinese still speak their own dialects like Cantonese, Fujian-Hokkien, Teochew, Hakka, Hainan….etc.

    Singapore is the only Chinese dominant society that uses English as its lingua franca. Lee Kuan Yew was educated in the UK and was very pro-British in his early years. I think that has a lot to do with why Singapore is such a clean(both figurative and literal) and safe country.

    I would said it got to do more with LKY leadership quality than this educated in UK, very pro-British claims. Many countries leaders are educated in UK, pro-British, yet their countries are dirty and unsafe. HK during British ruling, was a stellar example of dirty and unsafe place. Even UKUS themselves weren’t safe consider its high crime rates. These speak for itself.

    However, LKY did mentioned he had noticed of UK greenery during his study there, which aspired him to apply on Spore.

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  • @TT

    It is true. Probably think?
     
    Its not true even you repeat thousand time. Tell me why China dare defy Soviet military threat who had enmassed million troops at China northern border, launched punitive attack to Vietnam who actually had a mutual defense treaty that India don't? After Soviet failed to attack China to help Vietnam, Soviet credibility was greatly damaged.

    I can't read current China leaders mind, let alone those dead one. So the best guess i can said is they probably think, Pak case is not worth for China sacrifice like Vietnam & Korea under naked US invasion at its doorstep.

    May be they had regretted now, because a Pak's Bangladesh will cutoff India access into 7sisters and Tibets. That also will give China access to Bay of Bengal more easily.

    Maybe you are right. Maybe China was not gonna attack India in 1971, no first strike principle and all. But from India’s point of view, our government was concerned of such a possibility. Indeed the Soviet-Indian accord was signed with China (as well as the U.S.A and Great Britain) in mind.
    From

    http://www.indiandefencereview.com/spotlights/1971-manekshaw-prepares-for-war/

    1971: Manekshaw Prepares for War

    “Though there had been no open hostilities with the Chinese after 1962, except for an artillery duel in 1967 around Nathu La, India could not be sure of China’s attitude if we went to war with Pakistan. That country’s leaders had consistently wooed China and had been receiving assurances of friendship and considerable aid in weapons and equipment. In the 22-day war of 1965, China had issued an ultimatum to India and had moved some troops threateningly, but had refrained from intervention.

    Sensing the likelihood of war over Bangladesh, Pakistan’s rulers had been at great pains to cement their friendship with China. At the military level, India’s planners proposed to neutralise the Chinese threat to some extent with a winter campaign, when the passes connecting India and Tibet would be snowbound. But the Chinese would still have some potential for intervention. At this stage, the politicians came to the rescue with the Indo-Soviet Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation. The clause on mutual help in case of aggression1 was intended to deter the Chinese in case they wanted to come in on Pakistan’s side. ”

    From

    http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/apr/03sam1.htm

    “The delay witnessed the establishment of a formal Bangladesh government in exile inside India, enabled the government of India to finalise a Treaty of Friendship with the Soviet Union and neutralise interference from both China and the US.”

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @M.Radant
    More proof all Jews need to be exterminated once and for all!

    You guys have serious problem. Did jews ever harm you? They didn’t even steal a cent from you or touch your butt yet you harbour such sickening thots to terminate them once and for all like cockroaches.

    Everyone is digging jews hard here, Malla even come out with a long collection of poetics verse that make me laugh. But probably for fun, and open for jews to defend or mock us back as we deserved for starting it.

    Ron is a jews, who kindly give us a platform to enjoy it free. You wanna terminate him?

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  • @TT
    Ok, i will try visit NE, always wonder what is inside that huge land link to India in a thread like a forgotten land.

    The Nagas, Assamese, Manipuris……
    They dont look Indian at all !
    Why do the heartlanders call them chinki terrorists ?
     
    They have to stick out tongue to prove Indian like Mukkam & Israel did.

    Heartlanders are right to call them chinki terrorists, look its obvious they are like some Yunnan tribal no matter how they assimilate.

    Illegally hiding inside India forest with those long string weapon and scanty army uniform, for sure they have no gd intend but forcing Indian armies to rape them for self defense, then they cry foul. What a cunning terrorist.

    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too. Just like Han give concessions to minorities in PRC like exemption from One Child Policy.
    NE Indians do not have to pay many taxes paid by mainland Indians. Also mainland Indians cannot buy land in many NE states, can only lease land. NE people face more threat from Bangladeshi migrants than mainlander Indians. Though many mainlander Indian mercantile communities like Marwaris exploit North East Indians but they cannot own land, only lease, by government rule. Only in NE state of Tripura have the natives (like Kock Borok) become minority (WMMed) as Bengali Hindus moved there in millions to escape Bengali Muslims in 1971 War. Bengali Hindus have become majority there.

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    Heartlanders are right to call them chinki terrorists, look its obvious they are like some Yunnan tribal no matter how they assimilate.

    Illegally hiding inside India forest with those long string weapon and scanty army uniform, for sure they have no gd intend but forcing Indian armies to rape them for self defense, then they cry foul. What a cunning terrorist.
     
    Ahh... so these women are actually minority ethnics of India, not illegal sneak in terrorists. They look nothing Indian but absolutely of China minority ethnics, how they ended up been in India land becoming its minority, targeted as chinki terrorists?

    So Indian has grabbed their land again and blamed them for wearing scanty uniform fighting with string instruments, what a sins they have done. Still malevolent Indian gave them tax concession after violating them as punishment, how kind our indies... hehehehe...
    , @denk

    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too.
     
    You should try interviewing some Nagas how they feel about said 'concessions' !

    Is it supposed to write off the 300000 Nagas who're ,,,
    Shot to death, starved to death. , tortured to death and rape to death ?

    It'd be funny if it hadnt been so brutal .

    hhhhhh
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  • @TT

    China wanted to rule the world together with the USA via globalization via the New World Order,
     
    No.... China want to go it alone without US even been offered the G2.

    China vision is larger than NWO, its a multi polars properous peaceful world co-exist in harmony, under non interference and mutual respect system, with China at center.

    China will avoid all historical empires' same mistake in expansionary imperialism that collapsed everyone of them. It could become center of the world for long time if base on moral virtue and self sustained strength.

    If you can understd Mandarin, Watch youtube 大国崛起 you will get insight of what China up to. Im observing China closely for last 20yrs, they have grand plan not just to revive past glory, but to reach another apex that will affect the world greatly.

    https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVzrhuQ4Bp-CB9qIN1rOmhdf

    Yippy, its the cute, cuddly Disneyland fairy tale narrative again, you guys need a new play book with better tactics.

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  • @Malla
    Thanks bud. Hey, even if we have differences of opinions sometimes, I enjoy reading your posts and debating you.
    And yes, I really like Denk's comments too.

    If you and denk found i stop responding or dissappear, it means i have successfully quit my addiction to read you guys funny comments, not some mishaps. Im in very safe 3rd world country now…but need to spend more quality time in my other interest. Unz took most of my data plan and time.

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    • Replies: @denk
    I feel your pain.

    No need to disappear, just moderate you output,

    When I was younger and very gungho, I often did real time debate , even overnight.

    Such indulgence are taking its toll on me, eyes are failing and my day job is demanding,

    These days moderate my post to at most two sessions a day when I got the time, seldom do real time unless Im free and aint going anywhere like today ;-)

    Not need to quit,
    just take it easy and post whenever you find the time and feel like doing it.
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  • @Malla

    If India refuse to get out of Donglan after repeated warnings, China had to force them out. Is that call first strike or self defense? You got to understand meaning of first strike. Otherwise every tom dick harry will go into China land and do whatever they like as long their military don’t strike Chinese?
     
    Donglan (Dokhlam) is different. India just got scared as it is so close to Bhutan. Recently with Nepal getting closer to China (because of Indian bullying and China building up good reputation in infrastructure development), India is scared of losing border nations to China's side. India does not allow Bhutan to have diplomatic relations with China. They were even scared of Bhutan having diplomatic relations with Japan, even though India has good relations with Japan and Japan is very far away. We gave green signal only after a long time to Bhutan Japan diplomatic relations. This is obviously wrong, Bhutan is independent country and has right to have diplomatic relations with anybody it chooses.
    Bhutan had such protectorate relations with British Empire/British Raj/British India, not independent India. India forced Bhutan to continue the protectorate status even if Bhutan was not interested in continuing it anymore.

    You say China forced us out. Do you have any links to this? As, in India, media propaganda is that China got scared and we got out after giving tough lesson. I want the truth. Give me link in English if you have.

    You say China forced us out. Do you have any links to this? As, in India, media propaganda is that China got scared and we got out after giving tough lesson. I want the truth. Give me link in English if you have.

    Its just an example, not to mean China had taken physical action to drive India out that time.

    As many Western analysts pointed out, China is practising Sun Tze strategy, highest level is to win a war without fighting. But knowing a war means Obor, Brics, SCO and all grand plans, peaceful rise are in jeopardy, a result Yankee ploted with India as canon fodder, China tried to restraint.

    A large troops with multi rockets launchers and artillery had moved there, with permanent defense structure built up. Even Blood donation drive to prepare for real war, not an impulse to fight with mouth unprepared. Ultimatum is then given.

    India knew this is for real, so withdrawn since already gotten enough mileage.

    Dokhlam was a backward peaceful place. There is even no border fence or troops, just occasionally some border patrolling, and a dirt road. Now, India is facing a permanent armed large troop at its most sensitive chicken neck, what it has asked for.

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  • @Joe Wong
    Obviously, you are either not a Chinese or you are a mentally colonized Gweilo wannabe. You should know there was a clear distinction between Manchus and Chinese then. Qing force was Chinese not Manchus.

    You should be grateful, because someone is taking the trouble to point out the Western BS even on the UNZ Review.

    Oh, what, the Han Bannermen that the Manchu were constantly trying to suppress in despite being overall more effective? Yes, there was a clear distinction. A distinction where Han could always count on being a second-class citizen that if lucky, he could someday be married and count as a Manchu, and while the Manchu Bannermen were basically a subsidized freeloading class…and this you defend?

    Although the banners were instrumental in the Qing Empire takeover of China proper in the 17th century from the Ming dynasty, they began to fall behind rising Western powers in the 18th century. By the 1730s, the traditional martial spirit had been discarded, as the well-paid Bannerman spent their time gambling and theatergoing. Subsidizing the 1.5 million men, women and children in the system was an expensive proposition, compounded by embezzlement and corruption

    Its immaterial either way. The Vietnamese had rebelled against the Ming dynasty after the successful invasion in 1400s; was that caused by the French? The Vietnamese defended against Qianlong Emperor’s invasion, was that caused by the French? For all practical purposes, by the time the Vietnamese loyalists to the Ming lost, any reality that Vietnam would be part of China anymore was gone. The purging of pro-Chinese sentiment was done by the Vietnamese, not by any foreign power at the time.

    So its mostly an impoverished country now. And it probably will remain that way forever. But its what they chose.

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  • @denk

    If thing going so bad in India, then i might have to move to Taiwan first, from there sneak into China after they unified. Its almost impossible to get citizenship in China, safe from India WMM.
     
    Bad news here my friend !

    They'r all over Sg, HK, SEA, these Indian sexpats,


    TW is also bringing in h1b Indians, ditto Jp


    can you see the patterns, all fukus vassals are required to shoot themselves in the foot by voluntarily getting penetrated by fukus sepoys !

    Even China is now crawling with Indian WMM

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/2-indian-men-held-in-china-for-trying-to-molest-woman-1429802

    The 'seven sisters', Sikkim, Bhutan had long been zapped by Indian tsunami,

    Myanmar is currently being hammered by fukus , UN for its attempt to stem this yellow holocaust.

    Is NK the only yellow country left standing ??

    Those who whine about white genocide aint seen nuthin yet !

    hhhhhh

    Bhutan actually reversed the Hindu WMM many years ago, expelling Nepalese Hindus (mostly madeshi). They are Hindu Nepalese, India used earlier, to absorb Sikkim by financing fake anti King revolution.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2009/09/bhutan_refugees/

    But fukus/UN decided to use them as WMM on American Whitey instead.

    from

    https://www.amren.com/features/2013/10/the-refugee-racket/

    “Bhutan? These people were actually ethnic Nepalese who had moved, uninvited, into Bhutan, which kicked them out. They were living in refugee camps in what is actually their own country—Nepal—but the Nepalese didn’t want them either, so UNHCR decided we needed them”

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  • @TT

    It is true. Probably think?
     
    Its not true even you repeat thousand time. Tell me why China dare defy Soviet military threat who had enmassed million troops at China northern border, launched punitive attack to Vietnam who actually had a mutual defense treaty that India don't? After Soviet failed to attack China to help Vietnam, Soviet credibility was greatly damaged.

    I can't read current China leaders mind, let alone those dead one. So the best guess i can said is they probably think, Pak case is not worth for China sacrifice like Vietnam & Korea under naked US invasion at its doorstep.

    May be they had regretted now, because a Pak's Bangladesh will cutoff India access into 7sisters and Tibets. That also will give China access to Bay of Bengal more easily.

    That also will give China access to Bay of Bengal more easily.

    Past is past, China is getting access to Bay of Bengal via Myanmar OBOR and Bangladesh is also joining OBOR.

    http://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2017/10/31/one-belt-one-road-means-bangladesh/

    http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/dhaka-defends-belt-and-road-project/article19804468.ece

    Dhaka defends China’s OBOR project

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  • @TT

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China’s ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam’s ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China.
     
    Didn't i give the reason? Viet make the first strike to China ally Cambodia, mistreat Chinese minority like Linh, and occupied China's island.

    If India refuse to get out of Donglan after repeated warnings, China had to force them out. Is that call first strike or self defense? You got to understand meaning of first strike. Otherwise every tom dick harry will go into China land and do whatever they like as long their military don't strike Chinese?

    Im not defending Denk debate with you here, as he is real pro, no need my clumsy add on.

    If India refuse to get out of Donglan after repeated warnings, China had to force them out. Is that call first strike or self defense? You got to understand meaning of first strike. Otherwise every tom dick harry will go into China land and do whatever they like as long their military don’t strike Chinese?

    Donglan (Dokhlam) is different. India just got scared as it is so close to Bhutan. Recently with Nepal getting closer to China (because of Indian bullying and China building up good reputation in infrastructure development), India is scared of losing border nations to China’s side. India does not allow Bhutan to have diplomatic relations with China. They were even scared of Bhutan having diplomatic relations with Japan, even though India has good relations with Japan and Japan is very far away. We gave green signal only after a long time to Bhutan Japan diplomatic relations. This is obviously wrong, Bhutan is independent country and has right to have diplomatic relations with anybody it chooses.
    Bhutan had such protectorate relations with British Empire/British Raj/British India, not independent India. India forced Bhutan to continue the protectorate status even if Bhutan was not interested in continuing it anymore.

    You say China forced us out. Do you have any links to this? As, in India, media propaganda is that China got scared and we got out after giving tough lesson. I want the truth. Give me link in English if you have.

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    You say China forced us out. Do you have any links to this? As, in India, media propaganda is that China got scared and we got out after giving tough lesson. I want the truth. Give me link in English if you have.
     
    Its just an example, not to mean China had taken physical action to drive India out that time.

    As many Western analysts pointed out, China is practising Sun Tze strategy, highest level is to win a war without fighting. But knowing a war means Obor, Brics, SCO and all grand plans, peaceful rise are in jeopardy, a result Yankee ploted with India as canon fodder, China tried to restraint.

    A large troops with multi rockets launchers and artillery had moved there, with permanent defense structure built up. Even Blood donation drive to prepare for real war, not an impulse to fight with mouth unprepared. Ultimatum is then given.

    India knew this is for real, so withdrawn since already gotten enough mileage.

    Dokhlam was a backward peaceful place. There is even no border fence or troops, just occasionally some border patrolling, and a dirt road. Now, India is facing a permanent armed large troop at its most sensitive chicken neck, what it has asked for.
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  • @Daniel Chieh
    I'm waiting for Gordon Chang's predictions to come true any day now.

    Same goes for all related hokum by self-haters.

    When the West cannot use destruction to get their way, they turn to delusion web weaver like Gordon Chang for savior, mind you Gordon Chang gets his tips from Peter Narrvao via his wife.

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  • @Malla

    “Punitive mission” is not first strike.
     
    How is punitive action not first strike????

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China’s ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam’s ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China.

    Didn’t i give the reason? Viet make the first strike to China ally Cambodia, mistreat Chinese minority like Linh, and occupied China’s island.

    If India refuse to get out of Donglan after repeated warnings, China had to force them out. Is that call first strike or self defense? You got to understand meaning of first strike. Otherwise every tom dick harry will go into China land and do whatever they like as long their military don’t strike Chinese?

    Im not defending Denk debate with you here, as he is real pro, no need my clumsy add on.

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    If India refuse to get out of Donglan after repeated warnings, China had to force them out. Is that call first strike or self defense? You got to understand meaning of first strike. Otherwise every tom dick harry will go into China land and do whatever they like as long their military don’t strike Chinese?
     
    Donglan (Dokhlam) is different. India just got scared as it is so close to Bhutan. Recently with Nepal getting closer to China (because of Indian bullying and China building up good reputation in infrastructure development), India is scared of losing border nations to China's side. India does not allow Bhutan to have diplomatic relations with China. They were even scared of Bhutan having diplomatic relations with Japan, even though India has good relations with Japan and Japan is very far away. We gave green signal only after a long time to Bhutan Japan diplomatic relations. This is obviously wrong, Bhutan is independent country and has right to have diplomatic relations with anybody it chooses.
    Bhutan had such protectorate relations with British Empire/British Raj/British India, not independent India. India forced Bhutan to continue the protectorate status even if Bhutan was not interested in continuing it anymore.

    You say China forced us out. Do you have any links to this? As, in India, media propaganda is that China got scared and we got out after giving tough lesson. I want the truth. Give me link in English if you have.
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  • @Daniel Chieh
    He's referring to this, basically.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annam_(province)

    Please read comment #353.

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  • @TT
    Got to really stop visiting UNZ. Its so addicting sucking much of my time reading vast interesting comments from so many knowledgeable people.

    Malla and Denk are good soulmate, both knowledgeable and good funny writer....hehehehe..dont be coy, you are pro... really make me lol.

    Thanks bud. Hey, even if we have differences of opinions sometimes, I enjoy reading your posts and debating you.
    And yes, I really like Denk’s comments too.

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    If you and denk found i stop responding or dissappear, it means i have successfully quit my addiction to read you guys funny comments, not some mishaps. Im in very safe 3rd world country now...but need to spend more quality time in my other interest. Unz took most of my data plan and time.
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  • @Daniel Chieh

    You should know if not the corrupted and incompetent Manchurian court, the joint Vietnamese and Qing forces would have kicked the French out of Indo-China right from the beginning, China would not have such ungrateful thorn at it side right now.

     

    Qing are Manchus. What are you talking about? Are you even Chinese? Sometimes your rambles make me doubt, because you don't even sound like one of the ultranationalists. You just...ramble, usually along SJW lines.

    In a world where the French didn't exist, Vietnam would continue to be a thorn because opposition to China is essentially their founding myth. Its the glue that keeps them together.

    Obviously, you are either not a Chinese or you are a mentally colonized Gweilo wannabe. You should know there was a clear distinction between Manchus and Chinese then. Qing force was Chinese not Manchus.

    You should be grateful, because someone is taking the trouble to point out the Western BS even on the UNZ Review.

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    Oh, what, the Han Bannermen that the Manchu were constantly trying to suppress in despite being overall more effective? Yes, there was a clear distinction. A distinction where Han could always count on being a second-class citizen that if lucky, he could someday be married and count as a Manchu, and while the Manchu Bannermen were basically a subsidized freeloading class...and this you defend?

    Although the banners were instrumental in the Qing Empire takeover of China proper in the 17th century from the Ming dynasty, they began to fall behind rising Western powers in the 18th century. By the 1730s, the traditional martial spirit had been discarded, as the well-paid Bannerman spent their time gambling and theatergoing. Subsidizing the 1.5 million men, women and children in the system was an expensive proposition, compounded by embezzlement and corruption
     

    Its immaterial either way. The Vietnamese had rebelled against the Ming dynasty after the successful invasion in 1400s; was that caused by the French? The Vietnamese defended against Qianlong Emperor's invasion, was that caused by the French? For all practical purposes, by the time the Vietnamese loyalists to the Ming lost, any reality that Vietnam would be part of China anymore was gone. The purging of pro-Chinese sentiment was done by the Vietnamese, not by any foreign power at the time.

    So its mostly an impoverished country now. And it probably will remain that way forever. But its what they chose.

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  • @denk

    Im gonna migrate to India as WMM counter strike
     
    Dont forget to visit the NE,
    Ever wonder how the seven sisters got WMM into mother India ?

    The Nagas, Assamese, Manipuris......
    They dont look Indian at all !
    Why do the heartlanders call them chinki terrorists ?

    https://www.nelive.in/sites/default/files/styles/juicebox_medium/public/Tetseo%20Sisters%20with%20their%20Tati%20.JPG?itok=WJh38z4u

    Ever wonder how Xinjiang got WMM into Middle Kingdom People’s Republic of China ?

    The Uyghurs
    They are not pure Mongoloids at all like the JKCs (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese)

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2008/03/uyghurs-are-hybrids/

    The Uyghurs are an ‘in between’ population of pure Mongoloids (North East Asians Japanese, Koreans, Chinese) and pure Caucasoids (Northern Europeans like Russians, English, Germans, Poles, Swedes etc…).
    Uyghurs should be independent, they are more like Central Asian ex Soviet republic Stans.

    hehehehehe

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  • Got to really stop visiting UNZ. Its so addicting sucking much of my time reading vast interesting comments from so many knowledgeable people.

    Malla and Denk are good soulmate, both knowledgeable and good funny writer….hehehehe..dont be coy, you are pro… really make me lol.

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    Thanks bud. Hey, even if we have differences of opinions sometimes, I enjoy reading your posts and debating you.
    And yes, I really like Denk's comments too.
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  • @Miltiades
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam

    Either you are incorrect about Vietnamese history or Wikipedia is.

    The link confirmed that Vietnam was part of China for large part of its history, it seems you are reading it selectively based on the Cold war mentality.

    Wikipedia was written by the Westerner, so they present Vietnam in their point of view of Vietnam, not a Vietnam before they know about Vietnam, in addition the Wikipedia article did not mention the deep culture link between Vietnam and China, so the West can portray Vietnam to fit their never ending full spectrum dominance needs. The information of that article is skewed by the Western Eurocentrism bias; in fact most Wikipedia articles carry such systematic bias, for example the author(a Russian) wrote about Japanese Burakumin even claimed Japanese Kanji was developed by the Japanese themselves in according to his parallel development theory. Wikipedia is full of half-baked hypothesis written by Edward Harper Parker, Gordon Chang, or Peter Navarro like pundits. Wikipedia is in fact a skillfully disguised extension of Eurocentrism.

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  • @denk
    Since you'r an avid anglophile ,
    Lets compare China to your idol, fukus.

    China HAD TO support Pak cuz its practically Beijing's only breathing space,
    being strangled from all sides by hostile forces.

    fukusi[ndia] have no such worries, no existential threats,
    they do have the luxury to choose their 'allies' , yet they WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY to lap up hundreds of hideous regimes as long as its 'our kind of guys'

    Compared to the democrazies, China actually looks like an angel, !

    hhhhhh

    P.S.

    did Pak commit war crimes as alleged ?
    prolly,
    but Im not gonna take wiki's words for it 1

    Lets compare China to your idol, fukus.

    What???? There is nothing called fukus, it is and always has been fukuschi.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/new-world-order-takeover-very-real-and-will-begin-germany-and-china

    The New World Order Takeover Is Very Real… And Will Begin With Germany And China

    Some believe the NWO is a purely “western” construct and that eastern nations are defending themselves against an encroaching globalist empire. I have also shown that this is nonsense, and that eastern nations work closely with the same exact globalists they are supposedly at war with. This includes Russia’s Vladimir Putin, a figure often ignorantly praised by select liberty activists.

    What we see in the mainstream is conflict, yes; but it is theatrical conflict. At the end of the day, Eastern leaders pander to globalist high priests at the IMF and BIS and have lunch with NWO icons like Henry Kissinger, just as heads of the Republican Party and even Donald Trump’s family go out to parties with Democrat strategists and George Soros.

    It’s all a kabuki play. All the world is a stage…

    So, the question then remains, since the NWO and a one world economic system is in fact a real threat proven to exist through considerable evidence including the very words of prominent globalists, how does such a thing begin? If the U.S. is merely a limb that the globalists are willing to sacrifice in trade to gain even greater centralization, where will the NWO actually take root? As noted, both Eastern and Western nations are at the disposal of the international financiers, so it should come as no surprise that the NWO is seemingly taking shape around the relationship between two nations; one from either side.

    China has served the NWO model as more of an oppressive economic testing ground.

    China’s relationship with globalist institutions is well known. They are one of the first nations to openly call for a new global currency system headed by the IMF and based on the SDR basket. China has also recently been inducted into membership in the SDR basket by the IMF, showing that the back scratching is mutual.

    hhhhhhhhhhh

    http://yournewswire.com/george-soros-china-new-world-order/

    George Soros Announces China Must Lead The New World Order

    In an interview with the Financial Times, George Soros (‘Soros = Sore ass’ from all that humping from the devil himself LOL) has subtly laid out the banksters’ plan for ushering in the New World Order, announcing that China must lead the New World Order, “creating it and owning it” and supplanting the United States as the world’s economic superpower.

    hhhhhhhhhh

    I have been sayin this since the day I woz born. It is not fukus but fukuschi.

    hehehehehe

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  • @Malla

    This repeated comment is not true. China & US aren’t afraid of Soviet if they need to attack India.

    China probably think its not justifiable if Pak was really at fault, even tho they had allied up against India threat.
     
    It is true. Probably think?

    It is true. Probably think?

    Its not true even you repeat thousand time. Tell me why China dare defy Soviet military threat who had enmassed million troops at China northern border, launched punitive attack to Vietnam who actually had a mutual defense treaty that India don’t? After Soviet failed to attack China to help Vietnam, Soviet credibility was greatly damaged.

    I can’t read current China leaders mind, let alone those dead one. So the best guess i can said is they probably think, Pak case is not worth for China sacrifice like Vietnam & Korea under naked US invasion at its doorstep.

    May be they had regretted now, because a Pak’s Bangladesh will cutoff India access into 7sisters and Tibets. That also will give China access to Bay of Bengal more easily.

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    That also will give China access to Bay of Bengal more easily.
     
    Past is past, China is getting access to Bay of Bengal via Myanmar OBOR and Bangladesh is also joining OBOR.
    http://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2017/10/31/one-belt-one-road-means-bangladesh/

    http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/dhaka-defends-belt-and-road-project/article19804468.ece
    Dhaka defends China’s OBOR project
    , @Malla
    Maybe you are right. Maybe China was not gonna attack India in 1971, no first strike principle and all. But from India's point of view, our government was concerned of such a possibility. Indeed the Soviet-Indian accord was signed with China (as well as the U.S.A and Great Britain) in mind.
    From
    http://www.indiandefencereview.com/spotlights/1971-manekshaw-prepares-for-war/
    1971: Manekshaw Prepares for War

    "Though there had been no open hostilities with the Chinese after 1962, except for an artillery duel in 1967 around Nathu La, India could not be sure of China’s attitude if we went to war with Pakistan. That country’s leaders had consistently wooed China and had been receiving assurances of friendship and considerable aid in weapons and equipment. In the 22-day war of 1965, China had issued an ultimatum to India and had moved some troops threateningly, but had refrained from intervention.

    Sensing the likelihood of war over Bangladesh, Pakistan’s rulers had been at great pains to cement their friendship with China. At the military level, India’s planners proposed to neutralise the Chinese threat to some extent with a winter campaign, when the passes connecting India and Tibet would be snowbound. But the Chinese would still have some potential for intervention. At this stage, the politicians came to the rescue with the Indo-Soviet Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation. The clause on mutual help in case of aggression1 was intended to deter the Chinese in case they wanted to come in on Pakistan’s side. "


    From
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/apr/03sam1.htm

    "The delay witnessed the establishment of a formal Bangladesh government in exile inside India, enabled the government of India to finalise a Treaty of Friendship with the Soviet Union and neutralise interference from both China and the US."
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  • @Joe Wong
    Anyone exposes anything fabricated by the West in according to their 'God-fearing' morally defunct evil 'inquisitor' imagation is troll, no wonder nearly all clips on the Youtube about China produced by the West follow the Orientalism laid down by their barbaric racist forebears since 18th century.

    You are contradicting yourself, if Vietnamese was not closely linked to China, the French, American and the Japanese would not have spent so much effort and spilt so much blood to make sure the Vietnamese will never able to read their own history and get back to the old relationship with China. You should know if not the corrupted and incompetent Manchurian court, the joint Vietnamese and Qing forces would have kicked the French out of Indo-China right from the beginning, China would not have such ungrateful thorn at it side right now.

    French was always looked down by the Brits, because the French always stole spoils on the Brits coattail like the American.

    You should know if not the corrupted and incompetent Manchurian court, the joint Vietnamese and Qing forces would have kicked the French out of Indo-China right from the beginning, China would not have such ungrateful thorn at it side right now.

    Qing are Manchus. What are you talking about? Are you even Chinese? Sometimes your rambles make me doubt, because you don’t even sound like one of the ultranationalists. You just…ramble, usually along SJW lines.

    In a world where the French didn’t exist, Vietnam would continue to be a thorn because opposition to China is essentially their founding myth. Its the glue that keeps them together.

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    Obviously, you are either not a Chinese or you are a mentally colonized Gweilo wannabe. You should know there was a clear distinction between Manchus and Chinese then. Qing force was Chinese not Manchus.

    You should be grateful, because someone is taking the trouble to point out the Western BS even on the UNZ Review.
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  • @TT
    "Punitive mission" is not first strike. China is quite impressive to keep its no first strike rule very consistently under much threats so far.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China's ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam's ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China.

     

    After Viet invaded Cambodia, SEAsia will be next. Asean with Spore exPM Lee KY flown in to personally asked DengXP help defending Asean. All Asean troops enmassed at Thai border to form second line to defend once Cambodia fall, est. can last few weeks at most.

    This is very severe condition for Asean, as world most powerful US Allied had just suffered disastrous defeat under Vietcon, won't be able to get its people stomach another bigger bloody war immediately.

    “Punitive mission” is not first strike.

    How is punitive action not first strike????

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    The reason cited for the attack was to support China’s ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam’s ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China.
     
    Didn't i give the reason? Viet make the first strike to China ally Cambodia, mistreat Chinese minority like Linh, and occupied China's island.

    If India refuse to get out of Donglan after repeated warnings, China had to force them out. Is that call first strike or self defense? You got to understand meaning of first strike. Otherwise every tom dick harry will go into China land and do whatever they like as long their military don't strike Chinese?

    Im not defending Denk debate with you here, as he is real pro, no need my clumsy add on.
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  • @denk

    If thing going so bad in India, then i might have to move to Taiwan first, from there sneak into China after they unified. Its almost impossible to get citizenship in China, safe from India WMM.
     
    Bad news here my friend !

    They'r all over Sg, HK, SEA, these Indian sexpats,


    TW is also bringing in h1b Indians, ditto Jp


    can you see the patterns, all fukus vassals are required to shoot themselves in the foot by voluntarily getting penetrated by fukus sepoys !

    Even China is now crawling with Indian WMM

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/2-indian-men-held-in-china-for-trying-to-molest-woman-1429802

    The 'seven sisters', Sikkim, Bhutan had long been zapped by Indian tsunami,

    Myanmar is currently being hammered by fukus , UN for its attempt to stem this yellow holocaust.

    Is NK the only yellow country left standing ??

    Those who whine about white genocide aint seen nuthin yet !

    hhhhhh

    Well China decided to WMM us too. But we would not let them.

    http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/chinese-labourers-banned-from-indian-power-sector/521778/

    The government has banned Chinese labourers from working in the Indian power sector. What remains to be seen is whether Chinese power players will continue to bid on parts of larger projects if the hundreds of labourers required per project are banned from entering India, or if the Centre and much of the private sector will pitch in.

    “Those unskilled and semi-skilled workers can be found in India,” home minister P Chidambaram told The Indian Express. “We are no longer approving visas for temporary workers.”

    hhhhhhh

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    WMM my ass !

    hundreds or even thousands of Chinese workers are just like a drop in that Indian ocean, !

    hhhhh

    You should visit Fiji for example,
    [tip of an iceberg]

    The Indian tsunami got so bad the native Fijians had to BAN further Indian WMM lest they became minorities in their own land, may be they already are !

    The Fijians got whacked by the "international communities', read fukusI, for 'unacceptable racial discrimination against Indian tsunami', just like what they'r dissing out to Myanmar to day.

    WMM is our prerogative, do as I say, not what I do,
    sez fukusI

    hhhhh

    Or YOU CAN try Sg,
    wherever you go, you'd bump into Indian WMM, left , right and centre.

    Whiteys who mourn about white genocide ain seen nuthin yet,

    hhhhhh
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  • @denk

    If thing going so bad in India, then i might have to move to Taiwan first, from there sneak into China after they unified. Its almost impossible to get citizenship in China, safe from India WMM.
     
    Bad news here my friend !

    They'r all over Sg, HK, SEA, these Indian sexpats,


    TW is also bringing in h1b Indians, ditto Jp


    can you see the patterns, all fukus vassals are required to shoot themselves in the foot by voluntarily getting penetrated by fukus sepoys !

    Even China is now crawling with Indian WMM

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/2-indian-men-held-in-china-for-trying-to-molest-woman-1429802

    The 'seven sisters', Sikkim, Bhutan had long been zapped by Indian tsunami,

    Myanmar is currently being hammered by fukus , UN for its attempt to stem this yellow holocaust.

    Is NK the only yellow country left standing ??

    Those who whine about white genocide aint seen nuthin yet !

    hhhhhh

    Guess i have to troll even harder for Putin and Kim now, they might give me a honary citizenship for that like Paul CR. The last two safe countries from Malla’s kins… lol.

    Seriously, i think China leaders are smart enough for India WMM to even start. Indian is only good in English speaking countries, but not China. At max, India 1.3B is still less than China population, so can’t over run it. And Indian still see China with great enmity, as tho Chinese had slaved and killed them like British did.

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  • @anonymous
    Oh please. We're the Chosen People for a reason and we have suffered a great deal for it. Just because want to stay in the mud forever doesn't mean that you should.

    We’re the Chosen People for a reason

    Chosen people? What childish non sense is this? According to whom? When your ancestors wee barbarian nothings in the middle East, my ancestors had already composed the Vedas. Why Vedas not say you are chosen people? According to ancient Indians, your people would be called ‘Mleccha’ which means barbarian.
    It is all self gloating and nothing else. you are no chosen people and thus on that account at least you do not have to suffer.

    Just because want to stay in the mud forever doesn’t mean that you should.

    This ‘piece of Wisdom’ needs to be directed against jews more than anyone else.

    As far as chosen people b.s. , may be this will make things clear

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  • @TT

    Cannot sit idly by!!! Had to sit idly by because when Soviets thunder, Chicoms (and murricans/Brits) shivered.
     
    This repeated comment is not true. China & US aren't afraid of Soviet if they need to attack India.

    China probably think its not justifiable if Pak was really at fault, even tho they had allied up against India threat. Without China ground involvement, US can't defend Pak against Soviet & India.

    China had proven itself in Vietnam war against Soviet threat, and against US nuclear threat in Korean War. This is why US takes Chinese warning very serious, but not Russian.

    1. Under Soviet threat, China enmassed 1.5M troops at Soviet border, went ahead to attacked Vietnam without US military backing. Nuclear armed Soviet failed to honor its 25yrs mutual defense treaty with Viet.

    Loud thunder storm without rain is empty.

    2. US aggressively risked nuclear war with Soviet in Cuba missile crisis, embargo Cuba, blockaged Soviet ships and forced its nuclear submarine to surface which tantamount to act of war. Soviet withdrawn. Im not a fan to justify this hedgmon US crazy challenge to nuclear armed Soviet, but truth should prevail.

    Wonder where are the 1.4B mainland Chinese, always depending on few foreigners to help defend China.

    Wiki.


    On November 3, 1978, the Soviet Union and Vietnam signed a 25-year mutual defense treaty, which made Vietnam the "linchpin" in the Soviet Union's "drive to contain China."[52]

    On January 1, 1979, Chinese Vice-premier Deng Xiaoping visited the United States for the first time and told American president Jimmy Carter: "The little child is getting naughty, it's time he get spanked." (original Chinese words: 小朋友不听话,该打打屁股了。).[53]
    On February 15, the first day that China could have officially announced the termination of the 1950 Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance and Mutual Assistance, Deng Xiaoping declared that China planned to conduct a limited attack on Vietnam.
     

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China's ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam's ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China. To prevent Soviet intervention on Vietnam's behalf, Deng warned Moscow the next day that China was prepared for a full-scale war against the Soviet Union; in preparation for this conflict, China put all of its troops along the Sino-Soviet border on an emergency war alert, set up a new military command in Xinjiang, and even evacuated an estimated 300,000 civilians from the Sino-Soviet border.[54] In addition, the bulk of China's active forces (as many as one-and-a-half million troops) were stationed along China's border with the Soviet Union.[55]
     

    This repeated comment is not true. China & US aren’t afraid of Soviet if they need to attack India.

    China probably think its not justifiable if Pak was really at fault, even tho they had allied up against India threat.

    It is true. Probably think?

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    It is true. Probably think?
     
    Its not true even you repeat thousand time. Tell me why China dare defy Soviet military threat who had enmassed million troops at China northern border, launched punitive attack to Vietnam who actually had a mutual defense treaty that India don't? After Soviet failed to attack China to help Vietnam, Soviet credibility was greatly damaged.

    I can't read current China leaders mind, let alone those dead one. So the best guess i can said is they probably think, Pak case is not worth for China sacrifice like Vietnam & Korea under naked US invasion at its doorstep.

    May be they had regretted now, because a Pak's Bangladesh will cutoff India access into 7sisters and Tibets. That also will give China access to Bay of Bengal more easily.
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  • @Anon
    I mean if you could share some historical facts to back up will be good, not a refute to your claim.

    Ancient China had labeled all southern people including Guangzhou, Fujian, SE Asia as Southern Barbarians because of their uncivilization compare to advanced Northern China, which make Vietnam even more unlikely of any interest to them.

    Its a burden to have such faraway land that required your protection and aids but nothing in return. That's probably the reason why US didn't want to include Mexico in it.

    He’s referring to this, basically.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annam_(province)

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  • @TT


    Deng Xiaoping One of Greatest Men of 20th Century: Kissinger...

    Kissinger: Well, the Indians are bastards anyway. They are starting a war there.

    Who iz with fukus? India or China? It iz fukuchi behind the scenes.
     
    Indians called US(Kissinger) slimeball, he called Indians bastard, that's why they are perfect soulmate by nature. Well, all are soulmates when they can benefit each other. Only China & India calling Ba..ba...brother long time but still can't make up.

    No leaders had really criticized Mr DengXP, but many praised him. Even enemies like Fukus and West all out to smear China, they remained venerating him as a Greatest Man in personal level. That speak great volume for itself.

    Mr Deng, who survived Mao's communism, had brought China 1.4Bil poor nation from disastrous war strickened state to current prosperous Socialist country that will shape the world positively for a long time. Such achievements is qualified to make Mr Deng one of Greatest Men in history.

    Mr Lee Kuan Yew said that too, even go further in his memoir, "There is only one leader i admired, that is Mr Deng Xiao Ping." As Deng admirer, LKY himself, had make his mark in Singapore, is one leader that:

    Henry A. Kissinger said: The world will miss Lee Kuan Yew.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-world-will-miss-lee-kuan-yew/2015/03/23/80867914-d172-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html?utm_term=.3a8becf119f2


    Lee Kuan Yew was a great man. And he was a close personal friend, a fact that I consider one of the great blessings of my life. A world needing to distill order from incipient chaos will miss his leadership.

    …He developed into a world statesman who acted as a kind of conscience to leaders around the globe.

    ….

    A visit by Lee to Washington was a kind of national event. A presidential conversation was nearly automatic; eminent members of the Cabinet and Congress would seek meetings. They did so not to hear of Singapore’s national problems; Lee rarely, if ever, lobbied policymakers for assistance. His theme was the indispensable U.S. contribution.....His interlocutors attended not to be petitioned but to learn from one of the truly profound global thinkers of our time.
     

    Indians called US(Kissinger) slimeball,

    Wrong, everybody KNOWS (not only Indians) he is a slimeball. He has been (and still is) behind a lot of policies of fukus.

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  • @Miltiades
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam

    Either you are incorrect about Vietnamese history or Wikipedia is.

    Being a troll, he can occupy both positions at once.

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  • @Daniel Chieh
    Vietnam hasn't been part of China since the 1500s, and that has nothing to do with the French; nor would adding more intractable corruption problems to China help in the forseeable future.

    He's pretty much a troll, just ignore him.

    Anyone exposes anything fabricated by the West in according to their ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘inquisitor’ imagation is troll, no wonder nearly all clips on the Youtube about China produced by the West follow the Orientalism laid down by their barbaric racist forebears since 18th century.

    You are contradicting yourself, if Vietnamese was not closely linked to China, the French, American and the Japanese would not have spent so much effort and spilt so much blood to make sure the Vietnamese will never able to read their own history and get back to the old relationship with China. You should know if not the corrupted and incompetent Manchurian court, the joint Vietnamese and Qing forces would have kicked the French out of Indo-China right from the beginning, China would not have such ungrateful thorn at it side right now.

    French was always looked down by the Brits, because the French always stole spoils on the Brits coattail like the American.

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    You should know if not the corrupted and incompetent Manchurian court, the joint Vietnamese and Qing forces would have kicked the French out of Indo-China right from the beginning, China would not have such ungrateful thorn at it side right now.

     

    Qing are Manchus. What are you talking about? Are you even Chinese? Sometimes your rambles make me doubt, because you don't even sound like one of the ultranationalists. You just...ramble, usually along SJW lines.

    In a world where the French didn't exist, Vietnam would continue to be a thorn because opposition to China is essentially their founding myth. Its the glue that keeps them together.

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong
    Vietnam has been part of China more than a thousand years starting BC. It is written all over the places in history including Vietnamese own history. Unless you are one of those megalomaniac Eurocentrists who consider there was no civilization outside of Europe while stealing the fruits produced by other civilizations as their own inventions.

    I mean if you could share some historical facts to back up will be good, not a refute to your claim.

    Ancient China had labeled all southern people including Guangzhou, Fujian, SE Asia as Southern Barbarians because of their uncivilization compare to advanced Northern China, which make Vietnam even more unlikely of any interest to them.

    Its a burden to have such faraway land that required your protection and aids but nothing in return. That’s probably the reason why US didn’t want to include Mexico in it.

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    He's referring to this, basically.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annam_(province)

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  • @Joe Wong

    China is a constant threat to encroach upon Vietnam, that Vietnam may be swallowed up entirely by China.
     
    Linh Dinh was wrong, "Vietnam" was part of China before it has its own state. In Chinese eyes, Vietnam like Taiwan are renegaded provinces. Vietnam was pried away by the French while Taiwan was pried away by the Japanese while China was weak.

    BTW, while the educated Linh Dinh in Vietnam he should mobilize the Vietnamese to get rid of the French imposed ugly curly European script and restore their ancestor writing script back as their national writing script. The French imposed curly script reminds people the Vietnamese is still servile to their ex-White master, and are deeply mentally colonized by the White like the Taiwanese who are deeply mentally colonized by the unrepentant war criminal Japanese.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam

    Either you are incorrect about Vietnamese history or Wikipedia is.

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    Being a troll, he can occupy both positions at once.
    , @Joe Wong
    The link confirmed that Vietnam was part of China for large part of its history, it seems you are reading it selectively based on the Cold war mentality.

    Wikipedia was written by the Westerner, so they present Vietnam in their point of view of Vietnam, not a Vietnam before they know about Vietnam, in addition the Wikipedia article did not mention the deep culture link between Vietnam and China, so the West can portray Vietnam to fit their never ending full spectrum dominance needs. The information of that article is skewed by the Western Eurocentrism bias; in fact most Wikipedia articles carry such systematic bias, for example the author(a Russian) wrote about Japanese Burakumin even claimed Japanese Kanji was developed by the Japanese themselves in according to his parallel development theory. Wikipedia is full of half-baked hypothesis written by Edward Harper Parker, Gordon Chang, or Peter Navarro like pundits. Wikipedia is in fact a skillfully disguised extension of Eurocentrism.
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  • More proof all Jews need to be exterminated once and for all!

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    You guys have serious problem. Did jews ever harm you? They didn't even steal a cent from you or touch your butt yet you harbour such sickening thots to terminate them once and for all like cockroaches.

    Everyone is digging jews hard here, Malla even come out with a long collection of poetics verse that make me laugh. But probably for fun, and open for jews to defend or mock us back as we deserved for starting it.

    Ron is a jews, who kindly give us a platform to enjoy it free. You wanna terminate him?
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  • @Anon

    Linh Dinh was wrong, “Vietnam” was part of China before it has its own state. In Chinese eyes, Vietnam like Taiwan are renegaded provinces. Vietnam was pried away by the French while Taiwan was pried away by the Japanese while China was weak.
     
    This is something new, Vietnam is part of China. Facts pls.

    China regards all southern areas as uncivilized South Barbarians. Its not interested at all these lands, even when Zhenhe found Australia and many new lands well before Western Explorer uses his maps to explore.

    Vietnam has been part of China more than a thousand years starting BC. It is written all over the places in history including Vietnamese own history. Unless you are one of those megalomaniac Eurocentrists who consider there was no civilization outside of Europe while stealing the fruits produced by other civilizations as their own inventions.

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    I mean if you could share some historical facts to back up will be good, not a refute to your claim.

    Ancient China had labeled all southern people including Guangzhou, Fujian, SE Asia as Southern Barbarians because of their uncivilization compare to advanced Northern China, which make Vietnam even more unlikely of any interest to them.

    Its a burden to have such faraway land that required your protection and aids but nothing in return. That's probably the reason why US didn't want to include Mexico in it.
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  • @TT

    You will give up Aussie citizenship to get Indian citizenship? Really? India is gonna become a slave state to Zio elites..
     
    Already given up decades ago.

    If thing going so bad in India, then i might have to move to Taiwan first, from there sneak into China after they unified. Its almost impossible to get citizenship in China, safe from India WMM.

    Maybe marry a Israeli chick (your kids will be Jewish and Chosen) and live in the states.
     
    Which nice jew chicks will marry to old bloke.... and old jews are fat ugly. Then got to circumcise. No no..never live in states, it will at best collapse under debt and civil war bcom shithole, or fried by nuke.

    If thing going so bad in India, then i might have to move to Taiwan first, from there sneak into China after they unified. Its almost impossible to get citizenship in China, safe from India WMM.

    Bad news here my friend !

    They’r all over Sg, HK, SEA, these Indian sexpats,

    TW is also bringing in h1b Indians, ditto Jp

    can you see the patterns, all fukus vassals are required to shoot themselves in the foot by voluntarily getting penetrated by fukus sepoys !

    Even China is now crawling with Indian WMM

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/2-indian-men-held-in-china-for-trying-to-molest-woman-1429802

    The ‘seven sisters’, Sikkim, Bhutan had long been zapped by Indian tsunami,

    Myanmar is currently being hammered by fukus , UN for its attempt to stem this yellow holocaust.

    Is NK the only yellow country left standing ??

    Those who whine about white genocide aint seen nuthin yet !

    hhhhhh

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    Guess i have to troll even harder for Putin and Kim now, they might give me a honary citizenship for that like Paul CR. The last two safe countries from Malla's kins... lol.

    Seriously, i think China leaders are smart enough for India WMM to even start. Indian is only good in English speaking countries, but not China. At max, India 1.3B is still less than China population, so can't over run it. And Indian still see China with great enmity, as tho Chinese had slaved and killed them like British did.
    , @Malla
    Well China decided to WMM us too. But we would not let them.

    http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/chinese-labourers-banned-from-indian-power-sector/521778/

    The government has banned Chinese labourers from working in the Indian power sector. What remains to be seen is whether Chinese power players will continue to bid on parts of larger projects if the hundreds of labourers required per project are banned from entering India, or if the Centre and much of the private sector will pitch in.

    "Those unskilled and semi-skilled workers can be found in India," home minister P Chidambaram told The Indian Express. "We are no longer approving visas for temporary workers."

    hhhhhhh
    , @Malla
    Bhutan actually reversed the Hindu WMM many years ago, expelling Nepalese Hindus (mostly madeshi). They are Hindu Nepalese, India used earlier, to absorb Sikkim by financing fake anti King revolution.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2009/09/bhutan_refugees/

    But fukus/UN decided to use them as WMM on American Whitey instead.

    from
    https://www.amren.com/features/2013/10/the-refugee-racket/

    "Bhutan? These people were actually ethnic Nepalese who had moved, uninvited, into Bhutan, which kicked them out. They were living in refugee camps in what is actually their own country—Nepal—but the Nepalese didn’t want them either, so UNHCR decided we needed them"

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  • @Another German reader
    The Viets are running circles around some commenters' view of them. The Vietnamese economy is booming, because they play off ALL the major powers and play nice to ALL middle-powers and stay away from global bar-brawls.

    China is VN's biggest trade-partner. Many MNCs only came to Vietnam because they got 2 flies with one strike - the Chinese market and SEA market. The Chinese are feeding their own rival in the Spratleys.

    VN sells produce & other goods to Iran in exchange for oil, while using the profits to buy weapons from the Israelis. Weapons aimed at China.

    Indians, Europeans, Americans, Japanese, Korean and foremost Russians are selling weapons to Vietnam. Unlike Taiwan China can't say anything. Russians declined the sale of Iskanders to VN, so Isrealis are jumping in with LORA TBMs.

    Arab oil-sheiks are also investing heavily many sectors, while in case of the UAE a whole regiment of VPA soldiers are "private security".

    Japan/South-Korea distrust China and gave/is giving the much-needed low-interest loans for infrastructure-projects. This makes VN more and more interesting for foreign investors.

    Meanwhile the Vietnamese labour-market is eased by sending 80k guest-workers overseas every year. Here in Germany over 25 000 Viets are expected in the timeframe 2015-22. Average Hans is pissed off the Arabs and Africans migrants, but praise the Viets, who control the Crystal-Meth/Weed market and using Arabs/Africans as small time street-pushers.

    In addition the numbers of Viet Kieus jumped from 1 million in 1990 to 4 million in 2017. Meaning 14 billion USD remittance last year. This fuels the growth of light-industries and stabilizes the real-estate sector. This attracts lots of investors.

    Europeans talk about Nigerian asylum-seekers and Afghan refugees, while ignoring the 15k of illegal Viets, who arrive every year in addition to the legal ones.

    The children of Viet Kieu and UMC Viets are climbing the ladders in their new homelands, but due the wide spread do not draw unwanted attention. In many business-consultancies Vietnamese experts are pushing their clients to invest in VN.

    Now keep in mind the Vietnamese are still quite young and are expected to grow to 115 million in 2050 from 95 million in 2017. Combine that with 5-7% GDP-growth per year with GDP per capita 2300 USD in 2017 vs 1800 USD for India.

    Vietnam might end up being "Switzerland on steroids with a navy" by the mid of this century.

    TL-DR

    Vietnam is like that inconspicuous VW Golf. Just keep in mind that a VW Golf comes in many flavors from 75hp to 400hp. But even if you are in Porsche shaking off that Golf R400 won't be easy.

    Enjoy your interesting rare insight of Viets.

    Could you share the latest status in Germany about Muslim refugees affecting Germany, what’s possible future outcome like a uprising to overthrow gov by either peaceful voting or violent means, or continue eroded till muslimized?

    Why would Merkel want so many Muslim refugees and low grade foreign migrants in? Germany is extremely high developed country when i visited, it don’t need low level immigrants or can they assimilate. Social cost will be astronomical.

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  • @Malla
    Henry Kissinger, Slimeball, fukus Darth vader Lord on Chinese Leader

    http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/dengxiaoping/103469.htm
    Deng Xiaoping One of Greatest Men of 20th Century: Kissinger

    I see trees of green, red roses too
    I see them bloom for me and you
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world….

    hehehehehe

    Kissinger, fukus Darth vader Lord on Indians

    https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/indira-gandhi-is-a-bitch-the-indians-are-bastards/227789

    Kissinger: Well, the Indians are bastards anyway. They are starting a war there.

    Who iz with fukus? India or China? It iz fukuchi behind the scenes.

    hehehehe

    Deng Xiaoping One of Greatest Men of 20th Century: Kissinger…

    Kissinger: Well, the Indians are bastards anyway. They are starting a war there.

    Who iz with fukus? India or China? It iz fukuchi behind the scenes.

    Indians called US(Kissinger) slimeball, he called Indians bastard, that’s why they are perfect soulmate by nature. Well, all are soulmates when they can benefit each other. Only China & India calling Ba..ba…brother long time but still can’t make up.

    No leaders had really criticized Mr DengXP, but many praised him. Even enemies like Fukus and West all out to smear China, they remained venerating him as a Greatest Man in personal level. That speak great volume for itself.

    Mr Deng, who survived Mao’s communism, had brought China 1.4Bil poor nation from disastrous war strickened state to current prosperous Socialist country that will shape the world positively for a long time. Such achievements is qualified to make Mr Deng one of Greatest Men in history.

    Mr Lee Kuan Yew said that too, even go further in his memoir, “There is only one leader i admired, that is Mr Deng Xiao Ping.” As Deng admirer, LKY himself, had make his mark in Singapore, is one leader that:

    Henry A. Kissinger said: The world will miss Lee Kuan Yew.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-world-will-miss-lee-kuan-yew/2015/03/23/80867914-d172-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html?utm_term=.3a8becf119f2

    Lee Kuan Yew was a great man. And he was a close personal friend, a fact that I consider one of the great blessings of my life. A world needing to distill order from incipient chaos will miss his leadership.

    …He developed into a world statesman who acted as a kind of conscience to leaders around the globe.

    ….

    A visit by Lee to Washington was a kind of national event. A presidential conversation was nearly automatic; eminent members of the Cabinet and Congress would seek meetings. They did so not to hear of Singapore’s national problems; Lee rarely, if ever, lobbied policymakers for assistance. His theme was the indispensable U.S. contribution…..His interlocutors attended not to be petitioned but to learn from one of the truly profound global thinkers of our time.

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    Indians called US(Kissinger) slimeball,
     
    Wrong, everybody KNOWS (not only Indians) he is a slimeball. He has been (and still is) behind a lot of policies of fukus.
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  • @gT
    Stop imagining crap you crouching dragon hidden tiger load of BS. And once again, so sorry, China wanted to rule the world together with the USA via globalization via the New World Order, but the plan didn’t work out too well, so sorry.

    China wanted to rule the world together with the USA via globalization via the New World Order,

    No…. China want to go it alone without US even been offered the G2.

    China vision is larger than NWO, its a multi polars properous peaceful world co-exist in harmony, under non interference and mutual respect system, with China at center.

    China will avoid all historical empires’ same mistake in expansionary imperialism that collapsed everyone of them. It could become center of the world for long time if base on moral virtue and self sustained strength.

    If you can understd Mandarin, Watch youtube 大国崛起 you will get insight of what China up to. Im observing China closely for last 20yrs, they have grand plan not just to revive past glory, but to reach another apex that will affect the world greatly.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVzrhuQ4Bp-CB9qIN1rOmhdf

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    Yippy, its the cute, cuddly Disneyland fairy tale narrative again, you guys need a new play book with better tactics.
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  • @Malla

    China chose not to menace India ..inspite of murkkan pledge to cover its back !

    Its not about the Russians, its China’s ‘no first strike‘ principle at work,
     
    Chose LOL. USA was far away. Soviet was nearby with shared border, so choice was easy as China was not sure how much Murrica could help them. LOL

    Chinese Prime Minister Zhou Enlai: “In our opinion, if India continues on its present course in disregard of world opinion, it will continue to go on recklessly. We, however, support the stand of Pakistan. This is known to the world. If they [the Indians] are bent on provoking such a situation, then we cannot sit idly by.’
     
    Cannot sit idly by!!! Had to sit idly by because when Soviets thunder, Chicoms (and murricans/Brits) shivered.

    its China’s ‘no first strike‘ principle at work
     
    That principle vanished when punitive action taken against Vietnam.

    hehehehe

    Cannot sit idly by!!! Had to sit idly by because when Soviets thunder, Chicoms (and murricans/Brits) shivered.

    This repeated comment is not true. China & US aren’t afraid of Soviet if they need to attack India.

    China probably think its not justifiable if Pak was really at fault, even tho they had allied up against India threat. Without China ground involvement, US can’t defend Pak against Soviet & India.

    China had proven itself in Vietnam war against Soviet threat, and against US nuclear threat in Korean War. This is why US takes Chinese warning very serious, but not Russian.

    1. Under Soviet threat, China enmassed 1.5M troops at Soviet border, went ahead to attacked Vietnam without US military backing. Nuclear armed Soviet failed to honor its 25yrs mutual defense treaty with Viet.

    Loud thunder storm without rain is empty.

    2. US aggressively risked nuclear war with Soviet in Cuba missile crisis, embargo Cuba, blockaged Soviet ships and forced its nuclear submarine to surface which tantamount to act of war. Soviet withdrawn. Im not a fan to justify this hedgmon US crazy challenge to nuclear armed Soviet, but truth should prevail.

    Wonder where are the 1.4B mainland Chinese, always depending on few foreigners to help defend China.

    Wiki.

    On November 3, 1978, the Soviet Union and Vietnam signed a 25-year mutual defense treaty, which made Vietnam the “linchpin” in the Soviet Union’s “drive to contain China.”[52]

    On January 1, 1979, Chinese Vice-premier Deng Xiaoping visited the United States for the first time and told American president Jimmy Carter: “The little child is getting naughty, it’s time he get spanked.” (original Chinese words: 小朋友不听话,该打打屁股了。).[53]
    On February 15, the first day that China could have officially announced the termination of the 1950 Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance and Mutual Assistance, Deng Xiaoping declared that China planned to conduct a limited attack on Vietnam.

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China’s ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam’s ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China. To prevent Soviet intervention on Vietnam’s behalf, Deng warned Moscow the next day that China was prepared for a full-scale war against the Soviet Union; in preparation for this conflict, China put all of its troops along the Sino-Soviet border on an emergency war alert, set up a new military command in Xinjiang, and even evacuated an estimated 300,000 civilians from the Sino-Soviet border.[54] In addition, the bulk of China’s active forces (as many as one-and-a-half million troops) were stationed along China’s border with the Soviet Union.[55]

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    This repeated comment is not true. China & US aren’t afraid of Soviet if they need to attack India.

    China probably think its not justifiable if Pak was really at fault, even tho they had allied up against India threat.
     
    It is true. Probably think?
    , @denk

    Wonder where are the 1.4B mainland Chinese, always depending on few foreigners to help defend China.
     
    I feel your pain. !

    But dont blame the Chinese, I doubt even 1% frequent any English forums, let alone political sites/

    Trouble is,
    The CCP has absolutely no idea of information warfare.

    Every country's embassies have dedicated personnels to scour the local press for 'negative' stories and to counter it when necessary.
    I've never seen Chinese embassies doing this duty.

    Even discrepit Indonesia has embassy staffs monitoring Chinese media, no less !
    I was surprised some years back when Indon embassy wrote to the Chinese mag 'Asiaweek' to 'clarify' some perceived errors in a story about Indon !

    No wonder China has such a negative image in the world today..
    fukusi rumour mills have the field all to themselves !

    Its left to old men like us who couldnt stand all the B.S. and take it up on ourself to do something about it .
    YOu'r right, what a thankless job. !

    If only CCP would give me one dollar for every post I wrote since 1999,
    hhhhhhhh
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  • @Malla

    So China didnt jump on the opportunity offered by USSA to attack India cuz of USSR ?

    Yet Beijing had no hesitation thrashing the Indian’s ass in 1962 ,
    in defiance to BOTH USSA./USSR !
     

    The USSR did not threaten China in 1962. The USSR was overall neutral.

    https://www.rbth.com/articles/2012/10/25/reassessing_the_soviet_stand_on_the_indo-china_conflict_18635

    There was no open Soviet threat to China in 1962

    1971 was different. People's Republic of China was in bed with USA in 1971. With fukus. Making sweet love. So USSR was not so neutral in 1971. Remember, when Soviets thunder, Chicoms shake in their boots.

    hehehehe


    “no first strike’ principle at work,
     
    LOL LMFAO. Is this what you call no first strike principle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    Chinese forces entered northern Vietnam and captured several cities near the border. On March 6, 1979, China declared that the gate to Hanoi was open and that their punitive mission had been achieved, before withdrawing their troops from Vietnam.

    Entered? Entered? How you enter another nation as no first strike? You drinking a lot of strong warm baiju again?

    https://beerswinesspirits.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/mao-tai.png

    If that is no strike principle of Chicoms, the world is very concerned.

    hehehehe

    “Punitive mission” is not first strike. China is quite impressive to keep its no first strike rule very consistently under much threats so far.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China’s ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam’s ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China.

    After Viet invaded Cambodia, SEAsia will be next. Asean with Spore exPM Lee KY flown in to personally asked DengXP help defending Asean. All Asean troops enmassed at Thai border to form second line to defend once Cambodia fall, est. can last few weeks at most.

    This is very severe condition for Asean, as world most powerful US Allied had just suffered disastrous defeat under Vietcon, won’t be able to get its people stomach another bigger bloody war immediately.

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    “Punitive mission” is not first strike.
     
    How is punitive action not first strike????
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  • @denk
    Hey kiddie,

    I had kicked that anon butt back then,
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2138352

    Was that you ?

    *so sorry*
     
    You ought ta be, just keep making yourself look like a sorry ass !

    do I smell some Indian trolls, ?

    hhhhh

    But thanks to you, I come across a comment that I missed ,
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2147523

    My apology to TT, I had prolly gone on to some other business and missed your comment, some times I dont follow up on a thread for too long,.

    Stop imagining crap you crouching dragon hidden tiger load of BS. And once again, so sorry, China wanted to rule the world together with the USA via globalization via the New World Order, but the plan didn’t work out too well, so sorry.

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    China wanted to rule the world together with the USA via globalization via the New World Order,
     
    No.... China want to go it alone without US even been offered the G2.

    China vision is larger than NWO, its a multi polars properous peaceful world co-exist in harmony, under non interference and mutual respect system, with China at center.

    China will avoid all historical empires' same mistake in expansionary imperialism that collapsed everyone of them. It could become center of the world for long time if base on moral virtue and self sustained strength.

    If you can understd Mandarin, Watch youtube 大国崛起 you will get insight of what China up to. Im observing China closely for last 20yrs, they have grand plan not just to revive past glory, but to reach another apex that will affect the world greatly.

    https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVzrhuQ4Bp-CB9qIN1rOmhdf
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  • @denk
    Hey kiddie,

    I had kicked that anon butt back then,
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2138352

    Was that you ?

    *so sorry*
     
    You ought ta be, just keep making yourself look like a sorry ass !

    do I smell some Indian trolls, ?

    hhhhh

    But thanks to you, I come across a comment that I missed ,
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2147523

    My apology to TT, I had prolly gone on to some other business and missed your comment, some times I dont follow up on a thread for too long,.

    Henry Kissinger, Slimeball, fukus Darth vader Lord on Chinese Leader

    http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/dengxiaoping/103469.htm

    Deng Xiaoping One of Greatest Men of 20th Century: Kissinger

    I see trees of green, red roses too
    I see them bloom for me and you
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world….

    hehehehehe

    Kissinger, fukus Darth vader Lord on Indians

    https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/indira-gandhi-is-a-bitch-the-indians-are-bastards/227789

    Kissinger: Well, the Indians are bastards anyway. They are starting a war there.

    Who iz with fukus? India or China? It iz fukuchi behind the scenes.

    hehehehe

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    Deng Xiaoping One of Greatest Men of 20th Century: Kissinger...

    Kissinger: Well, the Indians are bastards anyway. They are starting a war there.

    Who iz with fukus? India or China? It iz fukuchi behind the scenes.
     
    Indians called US(Kissinger) slimeball, he called Indians bastard, that's why they are perfect soulmate by nature. Well, all are soulmates when they can benefit each other. Only China & India calling Ba..ba...brother long time but still can't make up.

    No leaders had really criticized Mr DengXP, but many praised him. Even enemies like Fukus and West all out to smear China, they remained venerating him as a Greatest Man in personal level. That speak great volume for itself.

    Mr Deng, who survived Mao's communism, had brought China 1.4Bil poor nation from disastrous war strickened state to current prosperous Socialist country that will shape the world positively for a long time. Such achievements is qualified to make Mr Deng one of Greatest Men in history.

    Mr Lee Kuan Yew said that too, even go further in his memoir, "There is only one leader i admired, that is Mr Deng Xiao Ping." As Deng admirer, LKY himself, had make his mark in Singapore, is one leader that:

    Henry A. Kissinger said: The world will miss Lee Kuan Yew.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-world-will-miss-lee-kuan-yew/2015/03/23/80867914-d172-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html?utm_term=.3a8becf119f2


    Lee Kuan Yew was a great man. And he was a close personal friend, a fact that I consider one of the great blessings of my life. A world needing to distill order from incipient chaos will miss his leadership.

    …He developed into a world statesman who acted as a kind of conscience to leaders around the globe.

    ….

    A visit by Lee to Washington was a kind of national event. A presidential conversation was nearly automatic; eminent members of the Cabinet and Congress would seek meetings. They did so not to hear of Singapore’s national problems; Lee rarely, if ever, lobbied policymakers for assistance. His theme was the indispensable U.S. contribution.....His interlocutors attended not to be petitioned but to learn from one of the truly profound global thinkers of our time.
     
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  • @denk

    Im gonna migrate to India as WMM counter strike
     
    Dont forget to visit the NE,
    Ever wonder how the seven sisters got WMM into mother India ?

    The Nagas, Assamese, Manipuris......
    They dont look Indian at all !
    Why do the heartlanders call them chinki terrorists ?

    https://www.nelive.in/sites/default/files/styles/juicebox_medium/public/Tetseo%20Sisters%20with%20their%20Tati%20.JPG?itok=WJh38z4u

    Ok, i will try visit NE, always wonder what is inside that huge land link to India in a thread like a forgotten land.

    The Nagas, Assamese, Manipuris……
    They dont look Indian at all !
    Why do the heartlanders call them chinki terrorists ?

    They have to stick out tongue to prove Indian like Mukkam & Israel did.

    Heartlanders are right to call them chinki terrorists, look its obvious they are like some Yunnan tribal no matter how they assimilate.

    Illegally hiding inside India forest with those long string weapon and scanty army uniform, for sure they have no gd intend but forcing Indian armies to rape them for self defense, then they cry foul. What a cunning terrorist.

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    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too. Just like Han give concessions to minorities in PRC like exemption from One Child Policy.
    NE Indians do not have to pay many taxes paid by mainland Indians. Also mainland Indians cannot buy land in many NE states, can only lease land. NE people face more threat from Bangladeshi migrants than mainlander Indians. Though many mainlander Indian mercantile communities like Marwaris exploit North East Indians but they cannot own land, only lease, by government rule. Only in NE state of Tripura have the natives (like Kock Borok) become minority (WMMed) as Bengali Hindus moved there in millions to escape Bengali Muslims in 1971 War. Bengali Hindus have become majority there.
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  • @denk
    That pic serves as the perfect backdrop to my question,
    How did the 'seven sisters' , aka NE, ended up in India, the people simply dont belong. !
    Fact is, when you look at a map, the NE stick out like a sore thumb from the Indian land mass. !


    Here's a dirty little secret but you wont hear it in fukus MSM...
    The 'seven sisters' were actually part of South Tibet and its peripherals, before India, 'the world's largest democracy', WMMed, genocided, gangraped them into mother India.

    That why I've been calling '
    The Tibet that no anglos wanna talk about' !


    Exhibit Nagaland....[same for Assam, Manipur;........]

    ' By my side is Yongkong, a Naga who has been in exile in London since the 1960s.

    He watches the film quietly; the villagers gathering to give their testimonies, one by one. A woman in white describes what the soldiers did to her children. A man, a rice grower, twists and turns as he re-enacts the various forms his own torture took – finally opening his mouth to the camera and showing the place where his teeth were before the Indian soldiers plucked them out with pliers.
    ..................
    Do we look like Indians?’ another Naga exile, Khodao Yanthan, rhetorically asks me.

    The three million Nagas who inhabit the region are of Sino-Mongolian origin.

    Culturally, linguistically and physically they have more in common with the Karen people in Burma or even the Chinese than with the Indians. Indian troops – many from the notoriously undisciplined Assam Rifles – are taught that the Nagas are cannibals and head-hunters who must be dealt with accordingly. The result is pitiful.

    https://newint.org/features/1994/06/05/keynote
     
    If you think thats evil, reading this make my blood boil,,,

    'For 91 years, ever since the Simon Commission’s visit, we have been saying “Nagas are not Indians”. Between 1955-1964 more than 200,000 Nagas were killed by Indian army shot to death, starved to death, burnt to death, raped to death, among those raped to death 709 were said to be below 20 years. Many maimed and many became insane. 4 lakhs detained in concentration camp for one year, chained and locked, all in the so called state of Nagaland. Out of 860 villages 645 were burned some of them 19 times with all their granaries. (Sources – The blood and tears written by Kaka D Iralu and From Phizo to Muivah written br Dr Lanu Nungsan Ao).
    Can we the Nagas in Manipur simply say it did not happen to us?'

    http://kanglaonline.com/2016/12/the-hill-valley-divide-widens-again/

     

    Well it might as well 'did not happen' as far as the five eyes is concerned,
    they have a full time job keep an eye on 'oppression' in Chinese Tibet !

    I heard the ICC is now guning for Duterte's 'human rights abuses', obviously cuz Ph is no longer brown nosing uncle sham like Modi !

    hhhhhhhh

    Ergo,

    The appointment of some locals to high officialdom in NE is nuthin but window dressing to obfuscate the hideous realities on the ground.

    The appointment of some locals to high officialdom in NE

    High officialdom in only NE????
    Kiren Rijiju, is Union Minister of State for Home Affairs of All India.
    Minister of State of Home Affairs. He can decide fate of mainland Indian states. He controls all police in all India. He is that powerful!!!

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    He controls all police in all India. He is that powerful!!!
     
    Hmm

    So they appoint a NE man to oversee the rape of NE ?

    Like adding insult to injury !

    hhhhhh
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  • @denk
    Hey kiddie,

    I had kicked that anon butt back then,
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2138352

    Was that you ?

    *so sorry*
     
    You ought ta be, just keep making yourself look like a sorry ass !

    do I smell some Indian trolls, ?

    hhhhh

    But thanks to you, I come across a comment that I missed ,
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2147523

    My apology to TT, I had prolly gone on to some other business and missed your comment, some times I dont follow up on a thread for too long,.

    Hey denko buddy,
    gT is rite.

    Check dis out

    How the Rothschilds Prepared China to Be the Next USA

    hehehehe
    After USA collapse, China will be new fukus.

    hehehehe

    Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu : ‘Jewish and Chinese culture have much in common’
    He says there is so much similarity in between Chinese people and Jewish people. He says ‘marry the two’.

    hehehehe

    Chinese have a lot of similarity with Jews. Should one trust Chinese? Bibi destroyed the credibility of Chinese. Now all think Chinese are like Jews and not trust them.
    Congrats for marriage, China, for getting new Jewish wife. Where is honeymoon?

    hehehehehe

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  • @denk
    That pic serves as the perfect backdrop to my question,
    How did the 'seven sisters' , aka NE, ended up in India, the people simply dont belong. !
    Fact is, when you look at a map, the NE stick out like a sore thumb from the Indian land mass. !


    Here's a dirty little secret but you wont hear it in fukus MSM...
    The 'seven sisters' were actually part of South Tibet and its peripherals, before India, 'the world's largest democracy', WMMed, genocided, gangraped them into mother India.

    That why I've been calling '
    The Tibet that no anglos wanna talk about' !


    Exhibit Nagaland....[same for Assam, Manipur;........]

    ' By my side is Yongkong, a Naga who has been in exile in London since the 1960s.

    He watches the film quietly; the villagers gathering to give their testimonies, one by one. A woman in white describes what the soldiers did to her children. A man, a rice grower, twists and turns as he re-enacts the various forms his own torture took – finally opening his mouth to the camera and showing the place where his teeth were before the Indian soldiers plucked them out with pliers.
    ..................
    Do we look like Indians?’ another Naga exile, Khodao Yanthan, rhetorically asks me.

    The three million Nagas who inhabit the region are of Sino-Mongolian origin.

    Culturally, linguistically and physically they have more in common with the Karen people in Burma or even the Chinese than with the Indians. Indian troops – many from the notoriously undisciplined Assam Rifles – are taught that the Nagas are cannibals and head-hunters who must be dealt with accordingly. The result is pitiful.

    https://newint.org/features/1994/06/05/keynote
     
    If you think thats evil, reading this make my blood boil,,,

    'For 91 years, ever since the Simon Commission’s visit, we have been saying “Nagas are not Indians”. Between 1955-1964 more than 200,000 Nagas were killed by Indian army shot to death, starved to death, burnt to death, raped to death, among those raped to death 709 were said to be below 20 years. Many maimed and many became insane. 4 lakhs detained in concentration camp for one year, chained and locked, all in the so called state of Nagaland. Out of 860 villages 645 were burned some of them 19 times with all their granaries. (Sources – The blood and tears written by Kaka D Iralu and From Phizo to Muivah written br Dr Lanu Nungsan Ao).
    Can we the Nagas in Manipur simply say it did not happen to us?'

    http://kanglaonline.com/2016/12/the-hill-valley-divide-widens-again/

     

    Well it might as well 'did not happen' as far as the five eyes is concerned,
    they have a full time job keep an eye on 'oppression' in Chinese Tibet !

    I heard the ICC is now guning for Duterte's 'human rights abuses', obviously cuz Ph is no longer brown nosing uncle sham like Modi !

    hhhhhhhh

    Ergo,

    The appointment of some locals to high officialdom in NE is nuthin but window dressing to obfuscate the hideous realities on the ground.

    I am aware of it. India act like imperialist power. We had no right to capture and force them in Indian Union against their will.

    Naga “A cry for Freedom”

    But you make mistake. This has nothing to do with fukus. This was done by Indian ‘freedom fighters’, who fought for independence from Britain. Nehru was Independence Hero, Sardar Patel was independence Hero, they deny north Eastern people their own independence. The Indian elites, when they did this to the Nagas and other, were ENEMIES of UK and USA. They were the freedom fighters, they taught in school curriculum to hate the British, covering up the good things British Raj did. India joined fukus much later.

    So why is it that international press before 1947 were crying to the British to give independence to India, keep quite about Indian imperialism in north East? Why they keep quite? Whay they accuse Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia of evil but keep quite about India in North East/Kashmir, Indonesia in Irian Jaya? Why western lefties talk all day about evul White colonialism but keep mum about non White imperialism???? Why Why Why? That is my question. And how is it that one people who get independence from another power themselves take away the independence of other peoples?

    The ‘seven sisters’ were actually part of South Tibet

    False, Only Arunachal Pradesh was Southern Tibet. The others are different. But they deserve independence from India anyways.

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  • @denk
    So China didnt jump on the opportunity offered by USSA to attack India cuz of USSR ?

    Yet Beijing had no hesitation thrashing the Indian's ass in 1962 ,
    in defiance to BOTH USSA./USSR !

    What gives ?
    Obviously USSR wasnt the factor here,
    in 1962 China was attacked !


    VN....

    Same scenario, China launched a punitive campaign, AFTER repeated warnings to Hanoi not to shell Chinese villages at the border fell on deaf ears.

    "no first strike' principle at work,

    QED

    hhhhhh

    So China didnt jump on the opportunity offered by USSA to attack India cuz of USSR ?

    Yet Beijing had no hesitation thrashing the Indian’s ass in 1962 ,
    in defiance to BOTH USSA./USSR !

    The USSR did not threaten China in 1962. The USSR was overall neutral.

    https://www.rbth.com/articles/2012/10/25/reassessing_the_soviet_stand_on_the_indo-china_conflict_18635

    There was no open Soviet threat to China in 1962

    1971 was different. People’s Republic of China was in bed with USA in 1971. With fukus. Making sweet love. So USSR was not so neutral in 1971. Remember, when Soviets thunder, Chicoms shake in their boots.

    hehehehe

    “no first strike’ principle at work,

    LOL LMFAO. Is this what you call no first strike principle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    Chinese forces entered northern Vietnam and captured several cities near the border. On March 6, 1979, China declared that the gate to Hanoi was open and that their punitive mission had been achieved, before withdrawing their troops from Vietnam.

    Entered? Entered? How you enter another nation as no first strike? You drinking a lot of strong warm baiju again?

    If that is no strike principle of Chicoms, the world is very concerned.

    hehehehe

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    "Punitive mission" is not first strike. China is quite impressive to keep its no first strike rule very consistently under much threats so far.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China's ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam's ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China.

     

    After Viet invaded Cambodia, SEAsia will be next. Asean with Spore exPM Lee KY flown in to personally asked DengXP help defending Asean. All Asean troops enmassed at Thai border to form second line to defend once Cambodia fall, est. can last few weeks at most.

    This is very severe condition for Asean, as world most powerful US Allied had just suffered disastrous defeat under Vietcon, won't be able to get its people stomach another bigger bloody war immediately.
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