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    I am reluctant to write about the “Israel problem” at the heart of U.S. foreign policy two weeks in a row but it seems that the story just will not go away as the usual suspects pile on the Barack Obama Administration over its alleged betrayal of America’s “best and greatest friend and ally in...
  • Israel is not an ally (no treaties signed) it is an albatross around our collective necks!
    Very apropos to put a picture of that Zionist boot licker boob Bolton at the top of the article.

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  • @Charlotte Allen
    I never called her Pancake Corrie. She was a naive idiot to think she could go into a war zone waving her arms around and everyone would put down their weapons just like that. Her parents were idiots for letting her do a college "internship" in a war zone. It was all very sad.

    I’m a terrible person, but I thought that Pancake Corrie is hilarious. I mean, some people are just itching to win the Darwin Awards. Effort should be rewarded!

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  • Bolton is the worst! Hooray Phil Giraldi!

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  • @Chuck Orloski
    Junior,

    Below is Roger Waters singing "We shall overcome" for Palestinians with beautiful images. I understand Pete Seeger made the original song famous, but the actual writer is to date undetermined.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh33ycOrc4

    If you have time, and need a good laugh, go to You Tube and look for Hunter S. Thompson's crazy interview with Keith Richards. They talk about the "afterlife."

    Thank you, I must leave now for my am school bus run.

    Hey, Chuck!

    I was looking into whether Nirvana was a Tavistock Institute creation and whether the rise of Grunge music in the 90′s had a direct correlation to the rise in Heroin addiction at the same time(it does), and I came upon an interesting article about the Dead’s connections to Tavistock which I had not been aware of. I had heard theories about the Beatles and Stones being their creations but never heard this about the Dead. I feel that the author is misdirected in his Jesuit theme because their creator, Ignatius Loyola, was a Marrano so the author doesn’t go far enough into his identification process but an interesting read nonetheless.

    Hope all is well and that you get a chance to check it out. :)

    https://tabublog.com/2015/12/26/the-manufactured-invention-of-the-beatles-stones-grateful-dead-and-the-birth-of-rock-n-roll-by-the-tavistock-institute-a-jesuit-corporation/

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  • @Chuck Orloski
    Junior,

    Below is Roger Waters singing "We shall overcome" for Palestinians with beautiful images. I understand Pete Seeger made the original song famous, but the actual writer is to date undetermined.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh33ycOrc4

    If you have time, and need a good laugh, go to You Tube and look for Hunter S. Thompson's crazy interview with Keith Richards. They talk about the "afterlife."

    Thank you, I must leave now for my am school bus run.

    Right on! Roger Waters is definitely THE man! One of the few artists that is actually willing to stand up to the insanity. All these other artists just talk about raging against the machine, Waters is doing it.

    I’ll definitely check out that Richards & Thompson interview, but can’t now cuz also gotta get on the road to get car fixed before too late.

    Safe travels, Brudda!

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    Hey also in relation to the Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead, and Hunter S. Thompson's Hell's Angels, in case you've never seen it, here's a clip that ties them all together and I think you'll get a kick out of that shows Jagger talking with Jerry while they're waiting to take a helicopter ride over to the show at Altamont for which the Angels were "security". Love his music but Jagger is being his usual attention-seeking asinine self in the video. And Jerry is being his usual calm-humble-coolest-down-to-earth-dude-ever self in the video while waiting for the helicopter. Gotta love Jerry at 1:49 of the video: "It won't be long. Not long, now. We'll get higher yet." TOO funny! :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQl1heKBNWI


    And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician!
     
    I probably went to about a dozen Dead shows but I gotta tell you that one of my favorite experiences at a show is Phish doing Cracklin' Rosie live cuz there may not be a finer thing in the world than being in a crowd of thousands of like minded lunatics singing "Oh I love my Rosie child" and TRYING to sound like Neil but not really giving a DAMN what we sound like. Now that is what I call fun!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKvjBY_oZ1o

    Now, if only, I wish I could find a video that SORT OF ties in with the topic of this article and also ties in with the Dead but it HAS to use some of the FINEST Deadhead humor that I've ever seen... if only... :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-6YgVKtmmY

    Junior,

    Below is Roger Waters singing “We shall overcome” for Palestinians with beautiful images. I understand Pete Seeger made the original song famous, but the actual writer is to date undetermined.

    If you have time, and need a good laugh, go to You Tube and look for Hunter S. Thompson’s crazy interview with Keith Richards. They talk about the “afterlife.”

    Thank you, I must leave now for my am school bus run.

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    Right on! Roger Waters is definitely THE man! One of the few artists that is actually willing to stand up to the insanity. All these other artists just talk about raging against the machine, Waters is doing it.

    I'll definitely check out that Richards & Thompson interview, but can't now cuz also gotta get on the road to get car fixed before too late.

    Safe travels, Brudda!
    , @Junior
    Hey, Chuck!

    I was looking into whether Nirvana was a Tavistock Institute creation and whether the rise of Grunge music in the 90's had a direct correlation to the rise in Heroin addiction at the same time(it does), and I came upon an interesting article about the Dead's connections to Tavistock which I had not been aware of. I had heard theories about the Beatles and Stones being their creations but never heard this about the Dead. I feel that the author is misdirected in his Jesuit theme because their creator, Ignatius Loyola, was a Marrano so the author doesn't go far enough into his identification process but an interesting read nonetheless.

    Hope all is well and that you get a chance to check it out. :)

    https://tabublog.com/2015/12/26/the-manufactured-invention-of-the-beatles-stones-grateful-dead-and-the-birth-of-rock-n-roll-by-the-tavistock-institute-a-jesuit-corporation/
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    Junior,

    Thanks for the convincing correction on my assertion that "The Dead" launched to fortune and fame minus Jewish help. And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician! Please do not tell me Neil had Vatican Bank connections???

    Seriously, it's good that you're around to catch my mistake and kindly point it out here @ Unz Review, and I thank you catching the error.

    Based upon your information that the song "He's Gone is about Jewish member of The Dead Mikey Hart's (Jewish) father Lenny Hart," I wonder if Lenny did any jail time for the sizable embezzlement? Did they put him away, Junior?

    Also regarding King Faisal's status as a peaceful "Deadhead," I see that your quotation refers to the name "Hunter." Is that a reference to the-late Hunter S. Thompson who rode with The Hell's Angels and (much prior to the 9-11 attacks) ruminated on the Death of The American Dream?

    Again, thank you.

    Hey also in relation to the Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead, and Hunter S. Thompson’s Hell’s Angels, in case you’ve never seen it, here’s a clip that ties them all together and I think you’ll get a kick out of that shows Jagger talking with Jerry while they’re waiting to take a helicopter ride over to the show at Altamont for which the Angels were “security”. Love his music but Jagger is being his usual attention-seeking asinine self in the video. And Jerry is being his usual calm-humble-coolest-down-to-earth-dude-ever self in the video while waiting for the helicopter. Gotta love Jerry at 1:49 of the video: “It won’t be long. Not long, now. We’ll get higher yet.” TOO funny! :)

    And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician!

    I probably went to about a dozen Dead shows but I gotta tell you that one of my favorite experiences at a show is Phish doing Cracklin’ Rosie live cuz there may not be a finer thing in the world than being in a crowd of thousands of like minded lunatics singing “Oh I love my Rosie child” and TRYING to sound like Neil but not really giving a DAMN what we sound like. Now that is what I call fun!

    Now, if only, I wish I could find a video that SORT OF ties in with the topic of this article and also ties in with the Dead but it HAS to use some of the FINEST Deadhead humor that I’ve ever seen… if only… :)

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    Junior,

    Below is Roger Waters singing "We shall overcome" for Palestinians with beautiful images. I understand Pete Seeger made the original song famous, but the actual writer is to date undetermined.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh33ycOrc4

    If you have time, and need a good laugh, go to You Tube and look for Hunter S. Thompson's crazy interview with Keith Richards. They talk about the "afterlife."

    Thank you, I must leave now for my am school bus run.
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    Junior,

    Thanks for the convincing correction on my assertion that "The Dead" launched to fortune and fame minus Jewish help. And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician! Please do not tell me Neil had Vatican Bank connections???

    Seriously, it's good that you're around to catch my mistake and kindly point it out here @ Unz Review, and I thank you catching the error.

    Based upon your information that the song "He's Gone is about Jewish member of The Dead Mikey Hart's (Jewish) father Lenny Hart," I wonder if Lenny did any jail time for the sizable embezzlement? Did they put him away, Junior?

    Also regarding King Faisal's status as a peaceful "Deadhead," I see that your quotation refers to the name "Hunter." Is that a reference to the-late Hunter S. Thompson who rode with The Hell's Angels and (much prior to the 9-11 attacks) ruminated on the Death of The American Dream?

    Again, thank you.

    I wonder if Lenny did any jail time for the sizable embezzlement?

    6 months.

    Is that a reference to the-late Hunter S. Thompson

    It’s a reference to their songwriter, Robert Hunter.

    Again, thank you.

    No doubt, Brudda! And my thanks to you for reminding me about just how much I love the Dead! I love the free flow of ideas from one topic to the next while staying ON topic of articles that occurs here at Unz.

    And also thanks for bringing up the topic of Dead connections to Judaism for examination! Not a topic that has ever crossed my mind because it makes no difference to me what religion a person is, only their actions and the content of their character matter to me, but an interesting topic to explore none the less. It gave me the chance to combine my two favorite topics, Politics and Music, in one post without forcing it. A rarity for me. :)

    And, iffen, sorry to set-up a joke and then knock it down myself but… no, my favorite topics aren’t Music loving and “Jew Hating”. ;) However on the topics of Zionism-control-of-America Hating and Stevie Nicks Loving… as they say, the cap fits so I’m wearing it. :)

    I guess that I should also nip in the bud, the cap I wear is a Brooklyn Dodgers fitted cap and NO it isn’t made from tin-foil. Cotton. The touch… the feel… :) My apologies to iffen, for pre-knocking down this joke set-up also. ;)

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  • @Anon
    Iffen.... Remember the title "America or Israel


    Why so many Jew haters?

    http://www.ihr.org/audio/archives/straight-talk-about-zionism

    Here’s the transcript of that audio recording:

    Straight Talk About Zionism: What Jewish Nationalism Means

    By Mark Weber
    April 14, 2009

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    It’s important to understand Zionism, not just because it’s an influential ideology and a powerful social-political movement, but also because there’s a lot of ignorance, confusion and deliberate misinformation about it.

    If you look up the word “Zionism” in a standard American dictionary, what you’ll find is likely to be inaccurate, or least misleading. For example, a popular and supposedly authoritative American dictionary in my office defines Zionism as “A movement formerly for reestablishing, now for supporting, the Jewish national state of Israel.” / 1 This definition, which is typical of American reference works, is more than just misleading. It’s deceitful.

    The founder of the modern Zionist movement was a Jewish writer named Theodor Herzl. In the 1890s he was living in Paris, where he was a journalist for a major newspaper in Vienna. He was deeply troubled by the widespread anti-Semitism, or anti-Jewish sentiment, in France at the time. He thought a lot about the pattern of tension, distrust and conflict between Jews and non-Jews that had persisted through the centuries, and he hit upon what he believed is a solution to this age-old problem.

    Herzl laid out his views in a book, written in German, entitled The Jewish State (Der Judenstaat). Published in 1896, this work is the manifesto or basic document of the Zionist movement. A year and a half later, Herzl convened the first international Zionist conference. Fifty one years later, when the “State of Israel” was solemnly proclaimed at a meeting in Tel Aviv, above the speakers’ podium at the conference was, appropriately, a large portrait of Herzl.

    In his book Herzl explained that regardless of where they live, or their citizenship, Jews constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people. He used the German word, Volk. Wherever large numbers of Jews live among non-Jews, he said, conflict is not only likely, it’s inevitable. He wrote: “The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers. Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving Jews … I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear.” / 2

    In his public and private writings, Herzl explained that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but rather a natural response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes. Anti-Jewish sentiment, he said, is not due to ignorance or bigotry, as so many have claimed. Instead, he concluded, the ancient and seemingly intractable conflict between Jews and non-Jews is entirely understandable, because Jews are a distinct and separate people, with interests that are different from, and which often conflict with, the interests of the people among whom they live.

    A prime source of modern anti-Jewish sentiment, Herzl believed, was that the so-called “emancipation” of Jews in the 18th and 19th centuries from the confined life of the ghetto into modern urban society brought them into direct economic competition with non-Jews in the middle classes. Anti-Semitism, Herzl wrote, is “an understandable reaction to Jewish defects.” In his diary he wrote: “I find the anti-Semites are fully within their rights.” / 3

    Herzl maintained that Jews must stop pretending — both to themselves and to non-Jews — that they are like everyone else, and instead must frankly acknowledge that they are a distinct and separate people, with distinct and separate goals and interests. The only workable long-term solution, he said, is for Jews to recognize reality and live, finally, as a “normal” people in a separate state of their own. In a memo to the Tsar of Russia, Herzl wrote that Zionism is the “final solution of the Jewish question.” / 4

    Over the years many other Jewish leaders have affirmed Herzl’s outlook. Louis Brandeis, a US Supreme Court justice and a leading American Zionist, said: “Let us all recognize that we Jews are a distinctive nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.” / 5

    Stephen S. Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and of the World Jewish Congress, told a rally in New York in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith. I am a Jew … Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race.” / 6

    Israel’s first president, Chaim Weizmann, wrote in his memoirs: “Whenever the quantity of Jews in any country reaches the saturation point, that country reacts against them … [This] reaction … cannot be looked upon as anti-Semitism in the ordinary or vulgar sense of that word; it is a universal social and economic concomitant of Jewish immigration, and we cannot shake it off.” / 7

    In keeping with the Zionist worldview, Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon told a meeting of American Jews in Jerusalem in July 2004 that all Jews around the world should relocate to Israel as soon as possible. And because anti-Semitism was especially widespread in France, he added, Jews in that country should immediately move to Israel. French officials quickly, and predictably, responded by rejecting Sharon’s remarks as “unacceptable.” / 8

    But imagine if the leaders of France, the United States, and other countries were to respond to those remarks by Sharon, and similar ones by other Zionists, by expressing agreement. Imagine if an American president were to respond by saying: “You’re right, Mr. Sharon. We agree with you. We agree that Jews do not belong in the United States. In fact, we are ready to show our support for what you say by doing everything we can to promote and encourage all Jews to leave our country and move to Israel.”

    That would be the logical and honest attitude of non-Jewish political leaders who say that they support Israel and Zionism. But the political leaders of the United States, France, Britain, and other such countries today are neither honest nor consistent.

    During the 1930s, one European government that was honest and consistent in its attitude on this issue was the government of Third Reich Germany. Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared similar views about how best to handle what Herzl called “the Jewish question.” They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in Europe, but rather in the so-called “Jewish homeland” in Palestine.

    On the basis of their shared views, Germans and Jews worked together for what each community believed was in its own best national interest. The Hitler government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until 1940-41, when the Second World War prevented further extensive collaboration. / 9

    (During the war years attitudes hardened, and policy shifted drastically. The German policy of collaboration with Zionists and support for Jewish emigration to Palestine gave way to a harsh “final solution” policy.)

    During the 1930s, the central SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, repeatedly proclaimed its support for Zionism. An article published in 1935, for example, told readers: / 10

    “The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the world, and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis, Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.”

    In late 1933, a leading German shipping line began direct passenger service from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, providing “strictly kosher food” on board.

    In September 1935, the German government enacted the “Nuremberg Laws,” which prohibited marriages and sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the country’s Jews an alien minority group. / 11 A few days after the Nuremberg Laws were enacted, the main German Zionist newspaper, the Jüdische Rundschau, editorially welcomed the new measures. It explained to readers: / 12

    “Germany … is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own theater, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all aspects of national life …”

    During the 1930s, Zionist groups, working together with Third Reich authorities, organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.

    The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the Ha’avara — Hebrew for “transfer” — was concluded in August 1933 following talks between German officials and an official of the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. / 13

    Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine through the Ha’avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten percent of Germany’s 1933 Jewish population. Some Ha’avara emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: “Many of these people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories — indeed rough replicas of their very existence.” / 14

    The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact, Hitler’s Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support the Zionist movement and Jewish development in Palestine.

    The essence of Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, is that Jews everywhere — regardless of where they live, regardless of their religious outlook, and regardless of their citizenship — are members of the Jewish “people” or “nation,” to whom all Jews owe a primary loyalty and allegiance.

    The overwhelming majority of Jews in the United States today identify with and support Israel, and are affiliated with Zionist groups and organizations. Every significant Jewish group or association in the United States, and every prominent Jewish American political or community leader supports Israel and Zionism, in most cases fervently so. With very few exceptions, even American Jews who are critical of some of Israel’s more embarrassing policies nonetheless express support for Israel and the nationalist ideology upon which the Zionist state is based.

    A Zionist Jew, by definition, owes his primary loyalty to the Jewish community and to Israel. Zionism is not compatible with patriotism to any country or entity other than Israel and the world Jewish community. That’s why it’s difficult to accept as sincere or honest the pious assurances of Jewish leaders in the United States that American Jews are just as loyal to the US as everyone else.

    In the United States, nearly every prominent political leader — Jewish and non-Jewish, Democrat and Republican — ardently supports Israel and the Jewish nationalist ideology upon which it is based. In Washington, political leaders of both major parties insist on US support for Israel as an ethnically Jewish state. They fervently support, and eagerly seek the favor of, influential Jewish-Zionist groups, such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

    Everyone — whether Jewish or non-Jewish — who claims to support Israel should, if he is honest and consistent, endorse the view of Israeli prime minister Sharon, and other Zionist leaders, and support the migration of Jews everywhere to Israel. But of course that’s not what happens.

    With regard to Zionism and Israel, the attitude and policies of nearly all American political leaders, Jewish and non-Jewish, is characterized by hypocrisy and deceit. To put it another way, Zionist Jews and their non-Jewish supporters embrace a blatant double standard. Jewish-Zionist organizations, along with their non-Jewish allies, support one social-political ideology for Israel and the world Jewish community, and a completely different one for the United States and other non-Jewish countries. They insist that ethnic nationalism is evil and bad for non-Jews, while at the same time they vigorously support ethnic nationalism — that is, Zionism — for Jews.

    They insist that Israel is and must be a Jewish nationalist state, with a privileged status for its Jewish population, including immigration laws that discriminate against non-Jews. At the same time, Jewish-Zionist groups and leaders, and the non-Jews who support them, insist that in the United States, Britain, France, Germany and other countries, there must be no privileged status for anyone based on race, ethnicity or religion.

    Our political leaders tell us that American Jews should be encouraged to think of themselves as a distinct national group with an identity and community interests separate from those of other Americans. At the same time American politicians insist that Zionist Jews be given all rights as full and equal US citizens. On the basis of this double standard, Jews are given a privileged status in American political and cultural life.

    Americans are led to believe that Zionism is a benign outlook of altruistic and righteous support for a so-called Jewish homeland. In fact, Zionism is an ideology and movement of ethnically-based Jewish nationalism that reinforces the identity and self-image of Jews as a distinct and separate community with interests different from those of non-Jews, and which strengthens the already powerful world Jewish community.

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    I consider Jerry Garcia’s vocals as irreplaceable
     
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    Amen to that! Truer words have never been spoken! Poppa Bear will never be forgotten! W.A.L.S.T.I.B.!

    Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.
     
    You are forgetting one of the most important concert promoters that the Dead had, Bill Graham. Here is an interesting article that I found about the many Jewish connections that the Dead had.

    The group’s 1975 album, “Blues for Allah,” was intended as a eulogy to Saudi Arabia’s peace-minded King Faisal, who fell victim to an assassin’s bullet. Hunter claimed that King Faisal was a fan of The Grateful Dead. The album includes an instrumental song, “King Solomon’s Marbles,” and the original LP featured the printed lyrics of the title track in four languages: English, Arabic, Persian and Hebrew.
     
    http://forward.com/culture/310778/the-secret-jewish-history-of-the-grateful-dead/

    Also in regards to the Dead never having vital "help" from Jewish managers, I'd like to point out the fact that the song "He's Gone" is about Jewish member of the Dead Mikey Hart's Jewish father, Lenny Hart, who managed the Dead and ended up embezzling close to a million 2017 dollars from them. "Help", indeed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Hart

    Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb, you know better but I know him.
    Like I told you, what I said, Steal your face right off your head.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-yDZdHn6mw

    Junior,

    Thanks for the convincing correction on my assertion that “The Dead” launched to fortune and fame minus Jewish help. And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician! Please do not tell me Neil had Vatican Bank connections???

    Seriously, it’s good that you’re around to catch my mistake and kindly point it out here @ Unz Review, and I thank you catching the error.

    Based upon your information that the song “He’s Gone is about Jewish member of The Dead Mikey Hart’s (Jewish) father Lenny Hart,” I wonder if Lenny did any jail time for the sizable embezzlement? Did they put him away, Junior?

    Also regarding King Faisal’s status as a peaceful “Deadhead,” I see that your quotation refers to the name “Hunter.” Is that a reference to the-late Hunter S. Thompson who rode with The Hell’s Angels and (much prior to the 9-11 attacks) ruminated on the Death of The American Dream?

    Again, thank you.

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    I wonder if Lenny did any jail time for the sizable embezzlement?
     
    6 months.

    Is that a reference to the-late Hunter S. Thompson
     
    It's a reference to their songwriter, Robert Hunter.

    Again, thank you.
     
    No doubt, Brudda! And my thanks to you for reminding me about just how much I love the Dead! I love the free flow of ideas from one topic to the next while staying ON topic of articles that occurs here at Unz.

    And also thanks for bringing up the topic of Dead connections to Judaism for examination! Not a topic that has ever crossed my mind because it makes no difference to me what religion a person is, only their actions and the content of their character matter to me, but an interesting topic to explore none the less. It gave me the chance to combine my two favorite topics, Politics and Music, in one post without forcing it. A rarity for me. :)

    And, iffen, sorry to set-up a joke and then knock it down myself but... no, my favorite topics aren't Music loving and "Jew Hating". ;) However on the topics of Zionism-control-of-America Hating and Stevie Nicks Loving... as they say, the cap fits so I'm wearing it. :)

    I guess that I should also nip in the bud, the cap I wear is a Brooklyn Dodgers fitted cap and NO it isn't made from tin-foil. Cotton. The touch... the feel... :) My apologies to iffen, for pre-knocking down this joke set-up also. ;)
    , @Junior
    Hey also in relation to the Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead, and Hunter S. Thompson's Hell's Angels, in case you've never seen it, here's a clip that ties them all together and I think you'll get a kick out of that shows Jagger talking with Jerry while they're waiting to take a helicopter ride over to the show at Altamont for which the Angels were "security". Love his music but Jagger is being his usual attention-seeking asinine self in the video. And Jerry is being his usual calm-humble-coolest-down-to-earth-dude-ever self in the video while waiting for the helicopter. Gotta love Jerry at 1:49 of the video: "It won't be long. Not long, now. We'll get higher yet." TOO funny! :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQl1heKBNWI


    And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician!
     
    I probably went to about a dozen Dead shows but I gotta tell you that one of my favorite experiences at a show is Phish doing Cracklin' Rosie live cuz there may not be a finer thing in the world than being in a crowd of thousands of like minded lunatics singing "Oh I love my Rosie child" and TRYING to sound like Neil but not really giving a DAMN what we sound like. Now that is what I call fun!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKvjBY_oZ1o

    Now, if only, I wish I could find a video that SORT OF ties in with the topic of this article and also ties in with the Dead but it HAS to use some of the FINEST Deadhead humor that I've ever seen... if only... :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-6YgVKtmmY

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    I HATE that the clip I posted above of my favorite Dead song is cut, but LOVE that there is video of this first performance ever of "He's Gone".

    Nothin' left to do but :) :) :)

    Nothin’ left to do but :) :) :)

    To keep from cryin’. :)

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    I consider Jerry Garcia’s vocals as irreplaceable
     
    .

    Amen to that! Truer words have never been spoken! Poppa Bear will never be forgotten! W.A.L.S.T.I.B.!

    Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.
     
    You are forgetting one of the most important concert promoters that the Dead had, Bill Graham. Here is an interesting article that I found about the many Jewish connections that the Dead had.

    The group’s 1975 album, “Blues for Allah,” was intended as a eulogy to Saudi Arabia’s peace-minded King Faisal, who fell victim to an assassin’s bullet. Hunter claimed that King Faisal was a fan of The Grateful Dead. The album includes an instrumental song, “King Solomon’s Marbles,” and the original LP featured the printed lyrics of the title track in four languages: English, Arabic, Persian and Hebrew.
     
    http://forward.com/culture/310778/the-secret-jewish-history-of-the-grateful-dead/

    Also in regards to the Dead never having vital "help" from Jewish managers, I'd like to point out the fact that the song "He's Gone" is about Jewish member of the Dead Mikey Hart's Jewish father, Lenny Hart, who managed the Dead and ended up embezzling close to a million 2017 dollars from them. "Help", indeed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Hart

    Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb, you know better but I know him.
    Like I told you, what I said, Steal your face right off your head.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-yDZdHn6mw

    I HATE that the clip I posted above of my favorite Dead song is cut, but LOVE that there is video of this first performance ever of “He’s Gone”.

    Nothin’ left to do but :) :) :)

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    Nothin’ left to do but :) :) :) ...

     

    To keep from cryin'. :)
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  • @Chuck Orloski
    Chris,

    Looks like this thread to P.G.'s article is petering out. Will look to converse with you again soon.

    One last thing about "The Grateful Dead." Annually, the Scranton, PA area hosts "The Peach Festival" at the Toyota Pavilion located atop Montage Mountain, during month of August. Thousands of "Dead" fans attend and love to watch the tribute band "Dark Star" perform.

    I am a life long Allman Brothers Band fan and this year I was disappointed when Gregg Allman was hospitalized and could not perform. However, a terrific drummer, (Joe Rizzo?), from the band "Almost Dead" played a non-vocal jazz set, along with the very cool bassist Ottile and a keyboard player. In addition, guitarist Chris Robinson took the stage!

    I will try and tune in to "One From The Vault" which I have not listened to in many years. I really prefer "Grateful Dead" Live and I consider Jerry Garcia's vocals as irreplaceable.

    Thank you. (F.Y.I., Be on look out for wiles performed by Trump appointee Cotton (from Arkansas) who for years has sucked upon the teat of Israel. The Mainstream Media has the U.S. population magnetized to Putin's subversive election action and excludes Netanyahu's subversion which is right-in-front of their noses.

    I consider Jerry Garcia’s vocals as irreplaceable

    .

    Amen to that! Truer words have never been spoken! Poppa Bear will never be forgotten! W.A.L.S.T.I.B.!

    Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.

    You are forgetting one of the most important concert promoters that the Dead had, Bill Graham. Here is an interesting article that I found about the many Jewish connections that the Dead had.

    The group’s 1975 album, “Blues for Allah,” was intended as a eulogy to Saudi Arabia’s peace-minded King Faisal, who fell victim to an assassin’s bullet. Hunter claimed that King Faisal was a fan of The Grateful Dead. The album includes an instrumental song, “King Solomon’s Marbles,” and the original LP featured the printed lyrics of the title track in four languages: English, Arabic, Persian and Hebrew.

    http://forward.com/culture/310778/the-secret-jewish-history-of-the-grateful-dead/

    Also in regards to the Dead never having vital “help” from Jewish managers, I’d like to point out the fact that the song “He’s Gone” is about Jewish member of the Dead Mikey Hart’s Jewish father, Lenny Hart, who managed the Dead and ended up embezzling close to a million 2017 dollars from them. “Help”, indeed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Hart

    Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb, you know better but I know him.
    Like I told you, what I said, Steal your face right off your head.

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    I HATE that the clip I posted above of my favorite Dead song is cut, but LOVE that there is video of this first performance ever of "He's Gone".

    Nothin' left to do but :) :) :)

    , @Chuck Orloski
    Junior,

    Thanks for the convincing correction on my assertion that "The Dead" launched to fortune and fame minus Jewish help. And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician! Please do not tell me Neil had Vatican Bank connections???

    Seriously, it's good that you're around to catch my mistake and kindly point it out here @ Unz Review, and I thank you catching the error.

    Based upon your information that the song "He's Gone is about Jewish member of The Dead Mikey Hart's (Jewish) father Lenny Hart," I wonder if Lenny did any jail time for the sizable embezzlement? Did they put him away, Junior?

    Also regarding King Faisal's status as a peaceful "Deadhead," I see that your quotation refers to the name "Hunter." Is that a reference to the-late Hunter S. Thompson who rode with The Hell's Angels and (much prior to the 9-11 attacks) ruminated on the Death of The American Dream?

    Again, thank you.
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  • A better question to ask is when will the majority of US voters and the US 2-party system and the US mafia media stop emulating and promoting Israel’s victim cult supremacy politics?

    The answer is never.

    It will take a major revolution to return the US to a constitutionally limited federal government that respects the power of the people and respects the autonomy of their state governments.

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  • @RobinG
    Thanks for the link, Junior! Gotta love this guy:

    "Why do you think Ambassador Christopher Stephens was left to die? Because he was a witness to Hillary Clinton's crimes of gun-running and supporting ISIS.....end of story."

    If only the "Benghazi, Benghazi" relatives of the dead would catch on to the underlying story. It's not too late. Hilligula (along with the O'Bombster) should be indicted for the felony of providing aid to terrorists.

    Hey, Robin!

    I agree that they say SOME great things on that Next News Network(NNN) but when it comes to the topic of Israel, all you get is obfuscation and lies from the NNN(Netenyahu News Network). If anything, I believe that Mr. Giraldi needs to be wary that they are trying to co-opt him into their false narrative that he is being critical of Obama for criticizing Israel instead of him being critical of Obama for not criticizing Israel ENOUGH.

    Here is another clip from the Netenyahu News Network where they refer to the UN resolution as “screwing Israel”. Zionist Propaganda posing as Alternative Media. Be wary of them.

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  • @Anon
    Iffen.... Remember the title "America or Israel


    Why so many Jew haters?

    http://www.ihr.org/audio/archives/straight-talk-about-zionism

    Thank you very much, anon. I thought “iffen’s” slam against me as a “Jew Hater” was to become left unchallenged on the comment thread, and I’d be lost in Strait of Hormuz waters.

    Maybe “iffen” will view the valuable “link’ you have provided, consider & learn to respect the reality for how things are

    I recall how Bernard Shaw’s admittedly “propagandist” prefaces and Plays spelled out the author’s desire for people to always consider the “degree provocation” that lay beneath both HATE and LOVE.

    Besides, on this very day, the U.S. military has announced having fired upon Iranian vessel(s) due to what appears to be a very shallow “provocation” — a scary event which will be welcomed by both the Israeli government and incoming Trump administration.

    Thanks again, anon. I intuit “iffen” will need Sam Shama’s higher level (strained) ideological reinforcement… and in meantime I go back to driving school bus.

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  • @iffen
    but I am hoping either iffen

    Perhaps you were suspected of being a secret Jew-hater, they were afraid that the Palestinian was passing along more material for Jew-hating and took him out. Your photo, of course, was for the suspected Jew-hater roster, in case you came back.

    Pure speculation on my part, Chuck.

    Iffen…. Remember the title “America or Israel

    Why so many Jew haters?

    http://www.ihr.org/audio/archives/straight-talk-about-zionism

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    Thank you very much, anon. I thought "iffen's" slam against me as a "Jew Hater" was to become left unchallenged on the comment thread, and I'd be lost in Strait of Hormuz waters.

    Maybe "iffen" will view the valuable "link' you have provided, consider & learn to respect the reality for how things are

    I recall how Bernard Shaw's admittedly "propagandist" prefaces and Plays spelled out the author's desire for people to always consider the "degree provocation" that lay beneath both HATE and LOVE.

    Besides, on this very day, the U.S. military has announced having fired upon Iranian vessel(s) due to what appears to be a very shallow "provocation" -- a scary event which will be welcomed by both the Israeli government and incoming Trump administration.

    Thanks again, anon. I intuit "iffen" will need Sam Shama's higher level (strained) ideological reinforcement... and in meantime I go back to driving school bus.
    , @geokat62
    Here's the transcript of that audio recording:

    Straight Talk About Zionism: What Jewish Nationalism Means

    By Mark Weber
    April 14, 2009



    It’s important to understand Zionism, not just because it’s an influential ideology and a powerful social-political movement, but also because there’s a lot of ignorance, confusion and deliberate misinformation about it.

    If you look up the word “Zionism” in a standard American dictionary, what you’ll find is likely to be inaccurate, or least misleading. For example, a popular and supposedly authoritative American dictionary in my office defines Zionism as “A movement formerly for reestablishing, now for supporting, the Jewish national state of Israel.” / 1 This definition, which is typical of American reference works, is more than just misleading. It’s deceitful.

    The founder of the modern Zionist movement was a Jewish writer named Theodor Herzl. In the 1890s he was living in Paris, where he was a journalist for a major newspaper in Vienna. He was deeply troubled by the widespread anti-Semitism, or anti-Jewish sentiment, in France at the time. He thought a lot about the pattern of tension, distrust and conflict between Jews and non-Jews that had persisted through the centuries, and he hit upon what he believed is a solution to this age-old problem.

    Herzl laid out his views in a book, written in German, entitled The Jewish State (Der Judenstaat). Published in 1896, this work is the manifesto or basic document of the Zionist movement. A year and a half later, Herzl convened the first international Zionist conference. Fifty one years later, when the “State of Israel” was solemnly proclaimed at a meeting in Tel Aviv, above the speakers’ podium at the conference was, appropriately, a large portrait of Herzl.

    In his book Herzl explained that regardless of where they live, or their citizenship, Jews constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people. He used the German word, Volk. Wherever large numbers of Jews live among non-Jews, he said, conflict is not only likely, it’s inevitable. He wrote: "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers. Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear." / 2

    In his public and private writings, Herzl explained that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but rather a natural response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes. Anti-Jewish sentiment, he said, is not due to ignorance or bigotry, as so many have claimed. Instead, he concluded, the ancient and seemingly intractable conflict between Jews and non-Jews is entirely understandable, because Jews are a distinct and separate people, with interests that are different from, and which often conflict with, the interests of the people among whom they live.

    A prime source of modern anti-Jewish sentiment, Herzl believed, was that the so-called “emancipation” of Jews in the 18th and 19th centuries from the confined life of the ghetto into modern urban society brought them into direct economic competition with non-Jews in the middle classes. Anti-Semitism, Herzl wrote, is “an understandable reaction to Jewish defects.” In his diary he wrote: “I find the anti-Semites are fully within their rights.” / 3

    Herzl maintained that Jews must stop pretending -- both to themselves and to non-Jews -- that they are like everyone else, and instead must frankly acknowledge that they are a distinct and separate people, with distinct and separate goals and interests. The only workable long-term solution, he said, is for Jews to recognize reality and live, finally, as a “normal” people in a separate state of their own. In a memo to the Tsar of Russia, Herzl wrote that Zionism is the “final solution of the Jewish question.” / 4

    Over the years many other Jewish leaders have affirmed Herzl’s outlook. Louis Brandeis, a US Supreme Court justice and a leading American Zionist, said: “Let us all recognize that we Jews are a distinctive nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.” / 5

    Stephen S. Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and of the World Jewish Congress, told a rally in New York in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith. I am a Jew ... Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race." / 6

    Israel’s first president, Chaim Weizmann, wrote in his memoirs: “Whenever the quantity of Jews in any country reaches the saturation point, that country reacts against them ... [This] reaction ... cannot be looked upon as anti-Semitism in the ordinary or vulgar sense of that word; it is a universal social and economic concomitant of Jewish immigration, and we cannot shake it off.” / 7

    In keeping with the Zionist worldview, Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon told a meeting of American Jews in Jerusalem in July 2004 that all Jews around the world should relocate to Israel as soon as possible. And because anti-Semitism was especially widespread in France, he added, Jews in that country should immediately move to Israel. French officials quickly, and predictably, responded by rejecting Sharon’s remarks as “unacceptable.” / 8

    But imagine if the leaders of France, the United States, and other countries were to respond to those remarks by Sharon, and similar ones by other Zionists, by expressing agreement. Imagine if an American president were to respond by saying: “You’re right, Mr. Sharon. We agree with you. We agree that Jews do not belong in the United States. In fact, we are ready to show our support for what you say by doing everything we can to promote and encourage all Jews to leave our country and move to Israel.”

    That would be the logical and honest attitude of non-Jewish political leaders who say that they support Israel and Zionism. But the political leaders of the United States, France, Britain, and other such countries today are neither honest nor consistent.

    During the 1930s, one European government that was honest and consistent in its attitude on this issue was the government of Third Reich Germany. Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared similar views about how best to handle what Herzl called “the Jewish question.” They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in Europe, but rather in the so-called "Jewish homeland” in Palestine.

    On the basis of their shared views, Germans and Jews worked together for what each community believed was in its own best national interest. The Hitler government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until 1940-41, when the Second World War prevented further extensive collaboration. / 9

    (During the war years attitudes hardened, and policy shifted drastically. The German policy of collaboration with Zionists and support for Jewish emigration to Palestine gave way to a harsh “final solution” policy.)

    During the 1930s, the central SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, repeatedly proclaimed its support for Zionism. An article published in 1935, for example, told readers: / 10

    “The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the world, and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis, Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.”

    In late 1933, a leading German shipping line began direct passenger service from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, providing "strictly kosher food” on board.

    In September 1935, the German government enacted the “Nuremberg Laws," which prohibited marriages and sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the country’s Jews an alien minority group. / 11 A few days after the Nuremberg Laws were enacted, the main German Zionist newspaper, the Jüdische Rundschau, editorially welcomed the new measures. It explained to readers: / 12

    “Germany ... is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own theater, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all aspects of national life ...”

    During the 1930s, Zionist groups, working together with Third Reich authorities, organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.

    The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the Ha’avara -- Hebrew for "transfer" -- was concluded in August 1933 following talks between German officials and an official of the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. / 13

    Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. Some Ha'avara emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -- indeed rough replicas of their very existence." / 14

    The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact, Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support the Zionist movement and Jewish development in Palestine.

    The essence of Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, is that Jews everywhere -- regardless of where they live, regardless of their religious outlook, and regardless of their citizenship -- are members of the Jewish “people” or “nation,” to whom all Jews owe a primary loyalty and allegiance.

    The overwhelming majority of Jews in the United States today identify with and support Israel, and are affiliated with Zionist groups and organizations. Every significant Jewish group or association in the United States, and every prominent Jewish American political or community leader supports Israel and Zionism, in most cases fervently so. With very few exceptions, even American Jews who are critical of some of Israel’s more embarrassing policies nonetheless express support for Israel and the nationalist ideology upon which the Zionist state is based.

    A Zionist Jew, by definition, owes his primary loyalty to the Jewish community and to Israel. Zionism is not compatible with patriotism to any country or entity other than Israel and the world Jewish community. That’s why it’s difficult to accept as sincere or honest the pious assurances of Jewish leaders in the United States that American Jews are just as loyal to the US as everyone else.

    In the United States, nearly every prominent political leader -- Jewish and non-Jewish, Democrat and Republican -- ardently supports Israel and the Jewish nationalist ideology upon which it is based. In Washington, political leaders of both major parties insist on US support for Israel as an ethnically Jewish state. They fervently support, and eagerly seek the favor of, influential Jewish-Zionist groups, such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

    Everyone -- whether Jewish or non-Jewish -- who claims to support Israel should, if he is honest and consistent, endorse the view of Israeli prime minister Sharon, and other Zionist leaders, and support the migration of Jews everywhere to Israel. But of course that’s not what happens.

    With regard to Zionism and Israel, the attitude and policies of nearly all American political leaders, Jewish and non-Jewish, is characterized by hypocrisy and deceit. To put it another way, Zionist Jews and their non-Jewish supporters embrace a blatant double standard. Jewish-Zionist organizations, along with their non-Jewish allies, support one social-political ideology for Israel and the world Jewish community, and a completely different one for the United States and other non-Jewish countries. They insist that ethnic nationalism is evil and bad for non-Jews, while at the same time they vigorously support ethnic nationalism -- that is, Zionism -- for Jews.

    They insist that Israel is and must be a Jewish nationalist state, with a privileged status for its Jewish population, including immigration laws that discriminate against non-Jews. At the same time, Jewish-Zionist groups and leaders, and the non-Jews who support them, insist that in the United States, Britain, France, Germany and other countries, there must be no privileged status for anyone based on race, ethnicity or religion.

    Our political leaders tell us that American Jews should be encouraged to think of themselves as a distinct national group with an identity and community interests separate from those of other Americans. At the same time American politicians insist that Zionist Jews be given all rights as full and equal US citizens. On the basis of this double standard, Jews are given a privileged status in American political and cultural life.

    Americans are led to believe that Zionism is a benign outlook of altruistic and righteous support for a so-called Jewish homeland. In fact, Zionism is an ideology and movement of ethnically-based Jewish nationalism that reinforces the identity and self-image of Jews as a distinct and separate community with interests different from those of non-Jews, and which strengthens the already powerful world Jewish community.
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  • I’ve been reading people like Philip G for over 15 years now. Things have only gotten worse it seems. All the exposure of these criminals has done little. I’m weary and tired. It seems pointless to keep trying.

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  • @chris
    Thanks again for your great reply, Chuck !

    Master Zionist political-planners know and expect levels of population resentment! Grave danger is that they have President Donald Trump’s mighty military arsenal at their back and I have a sense that a “Superpower” Middle East solution, advantageous to Greater Israel territorial design, will be soon underway.
     
    I certainly understand your apprehension, but the thing about Trump is that he can't easily be bribed, he hates to loose, and he doesn't like to be told what to do.

    He won't roll over like those cowards, Bush and Obama; and Yahoo knows this ! A new Gaza offensive, mass expulsions, or incursion into Lebanon or Sinai, which is what is probably being planned in Tel Aviv, won't go smoothly with president Trump. The way I look at it, is that a bull might do a lot of good in a very kitschy china shop.

    I know it's not much of a hand for us but they're the only cards we've got!

    PS Thanks a lot for the link to "Blues for Allah." "One from the Vault" is my favorite Dead album !

    Chris,

    Looks like this thread to P.G.’s article is petering out. Will look to converse with you again soon.

    One last thing about “The Grateful Dead.” Annually, the Scranton, PA area hosts “The Peach Festival” at the Toyota Pavilion located atop Montage Mountain, during month of August. Thousands of “Dead” fans attend and love to watch the tribute band “Dark Star” perform.

    I am a life long Allman Brothers Band fan and this year I was disappointed when Gregg Allman was hospitalized and could not perform. However, a terrific drummer, (Joe Rizzo?), from the band “Almost Dead” played a non-vocal jazz set, along with the very cool bassist Ottile and a keyboard player. In addition, guitarist Chris Robinson took the stage!

    I will try and tune in to “One From The Vault” which I have not listened to in many years. I really prefer “Grateful Dead” Live and I consider Jerry Garcia’s vocals as irreplaceable.

    Thank you. (F.Y.I., Be on look out for wiles performed by Trump appointee Cotton (from Arkansas) who for years has sucked upon the teat of Israel. The Mainstream Media has the U.S. population magnetized to Putin’s subversive election action and excludes Netanyahu’s subversion which is right-in-front of their noses.

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    I consider Jerry Garcia’s vocals as irreplaceable
     
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    Amen to that! Truer words have never been spoken! Poppa Bear will never be forgotten! W.A.L.S.T.I.B.!

    Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.
     
    You are forgetting one of the most important concert promoters that the Dead had, Bill Graham. Here is an interesting article that I found about the many Jewish connections that the Dead had.

    The group’s 1975 album, “Blues for Allah,” was intended as a eulogy to Saudi Arabia’s peace-minded King Faisal, who fell victim to an assassin’s bullet. Hunter claimed that King Faisal was a fan of The Grateful Dead. The album includes an instrumental song, “King Solomon’s Marbles,” and the original LP featured the printed lyrics of the title track in four languages: English, Arabic, Persian and Hebrew.
     
    http://forward.com/culture/310778/the-secret-jewish-history-of-the-grateful-dead/

    Also in regards to the Dead never having vital "help" from Jewish managers, I'd like to point out the fact that the song "He's Gone" is about Jewish member of the Dead Mikey Hart's Jewish father, Lenny Hart, who managed the Dead and ended up embezzling close to a million 2017 dollars from them. "Help", indeed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Hart

    Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb, you know better but I know him.
    Like I told you, what I said, Steal your face right off your head.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-yDZdHn6mw
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  • @Kek
    American Jews are the ones constantly trying to shame white Gentiles for their treatment of other races, yet usually support Israel's behavior as well as their own tribe's tendencies toward malignant narcissism. Total hypocrites, to the point of pathology.

    Yes, Jews (and others) who support or excuse Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians are worse racists than are the majority of white gentiles. As for “their own tribe’s tendencies toward malignant narcissism”, it’s not as concrete, but it is certainly real, although the “malignant” part, if you mean active hostility to “goyim”, was and is quite variable among ethnic Jews, as is such hostility towards non-whites among white gentiles.

    Incidentally, at least during the first few decades of Israel’s existence, white (Ashkenazi) Israeli treatment of Arab Jews, especially those from North Africa and Yemen, was easily as bad as the treatment of Blacks in the U.S. South during the same period, even if they were allowed to vote and to participate in the oppression of Palestinians.

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  • @Junior
    Hey, I was just going through a couple videos on Youtube and came across the news that Obama is boiling mad at a certain someone. Thought you'd get a kick out of it. :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyTdsKMJxB0

    Thanks for the link, Junior! Gotta love this guy:

    “Why do you think Ambassador Christopher Stephens was left to die? Because he was a witness to Hillary Clinton’s crimes of gun-running and supporting ISIS…..end of story.”

    If only the “Benghazi, Benghazi” relatives of the dead would catch on to the underlying story. It’s not too late. Hilligula (along with the O’Bombster) should be indicted for the felony of providing aid to terrorists.

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    Hey, Robin!

    I agree that they say SOME great things on that Next News Network(NNN) but when it comes to the topic of Israel, all you get is obfuscation and lies from the NNN(Netenyahu News Network). If anything, I believe that Mr. Giraldi needs to be wary that they are trying to co-opt him into their false narrative that he is being critical of Obama for criticizing Israel instead of him being critical of Obama for not criticizing Israel ENOUGH.

    Here is another clip from the Netenyahu News Network where they refer to the UN resolution as "screwing Israel". Zionist Propaganda posing as Alternative Media. Be wary of them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ejajCBMsI
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  • @Chuck Orloski
    Chris,

    During my stay at Jolie Ville Hotel in Giza, during evenings, I walked lonely streets, looking for something to do. At the time, I noted no women were around and upon my return to the States, a friend, Hossam el'Bassiouni, told me Islamic tradition forbade a man's simply meeting with an Egyptian girl and going on a simple date. One had to first meet with the girl's Muslim family, eat dinner, and sing traditional songs until a comfort level was reached when a couple could go out together alone.

    As you noted, and my knowing that "The Dead" played close to the Great Pyramid and Sphinx, I was hard pressed to imagine an Islamic audience getting down and wild to Grateful Dead's cool version of "Good Loving." Inside a taxi cab ride on a Cairo street, the driver's radio played songs and he sang along with the voice described as "Egypt's Elvis Presley." Also, I noticed a very cool "Grateful Dead" poster for sale and I regret having not stopped and making purchase. Below is a "link" to an article on the intriguing Dead album "Blues for Allah."

    http://www.dead.net/features/greatest-stories-ever-told/greatest-stories-ever-told-blues-allah

    I totally agree with you, Chris. "Inconceivable" that popular (& industry approved) American musicians would play anywhere in the Middle East except for Tel Aviv of course. Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.

    Re; I consider your final sentence prophetic, "... (Zionists) they will end up learning the lessons of the Old Testament the hard way, all over again." Even casual American news readers can detect how much world wide anger there is for Israel's never ending apartheid government, which just a couple months ago got a 10-year $38 billion gift from Netanyahu's pretend nemesis, the Obama administration.

    Like you (perhaps), I do believe evil governments get a "free ride" for too long periods of time, but one can merely look at the outspoken & angry comments simmering at P. Giraldi's present article. Master Zionist political-planners know and expect levels of population resentment! Grave danger is that they have President Donald Trump's mighty military arsenal at their back and I have a sense that a "Superpower" Middle East solution, advantageous to Greater Israel territorial design, will be soon underway.

    Post scriptum: I follow with interest how our USrael government is gradually legalizing weed. That's good but I have a little foreboding! While riding in the Cairo taxi, I asked my friendly driver, "How is it that everywhere I look, there's men on curbs playing backgammon and taking hits on hashish bongs? Why don't they get busted by Egyptian cops?'

    "Ha-ha! Situation much different here. Egyptian people can possess and smoke just about all the hashish they desire! President Sadat government like it that way when majority jobless citizens are STONED so that they do not take to streets and riot! Everybody happy to some political degree... Ha-ha."

    "Oh, I see, sir, thanks for the insight." I distinctly recall how the cab driver rolled the word, riot, "ryye-yat."

    Less than a year (?) after my return from the Middle East, and post-Sadat assassination, a terrorist mass shooting of tourists at Luxor's cross Nile River (west bank) occurred at the Valley of the Queens. Right now, Chris, I am looking at my picture of the Temple of Queen Hatshepsut including an Egyptian tour guide (wearing a cabbie cap) and his looking straight into the lens of my "Brownie" automatic camera. The photo is modern of course but his gaze is ancient.

    Thank you!

    Thanks again for your great reply, Chuck !

    Master Zionist political-planners know and expect levels of population resentment! Grave danger is that they have President Donald Trump’s mighty military arsenal at their back and I have a sense that a “Superpower” Middle East solution, advantageous to Greater Israel territorial design, will be soon underway.

    I certainly understand your apprehension, but the thing about Trump is that he can’t easily be bribed, he hates to loose, and he doesn’t like to be told what to do.

    He won’t roll over like those cowards, Bush and Obama; and Yahoo knows this ! A new Gaza offensive, mass expulsions, or incursion into Lebanon or Sinai, which is what is probably being planned in Tel Aviv, won’t go smoothly with president Trump. The way I look at it, is that a bull might do a lot of good in a very kitschy china shop.

    I know it’s not much of a hand for us but they’re the only cards we’ve got!

    PS Thanks a lot for the link to “Blues for Allah.” “One from the Vault” is my favorite Dead album !

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    Chris,

    Looks like this thread to P.G.'s article is petering out. Will look to converse with you again soon.

    One last thing about "The Grateful Dead." Annually, the Scranton, PA area hosts "The Peach Festival" at the Toyota Pavilion located atop Montage Mountain, during month of August. Thousands of "Dead" fans attend and love to watch the tribute band "Dark Star" perform.

    I am a life long Allman Brothers Band fan and this year I was disappointed when Gregg Allman was hospitalized and could not perform. However, a terrific drummer, (Joe Rizzo?), from the band "Almost Dead" played a non-vocal jazz set, along with the very cool bassist Ottile and a keyboard player. In addition, guitarist Chris Robinson took the stage!

    I will try and tune in to "One From The Vault" which I have not listened to in many years. I really prefer "Grateful Dead" Live and I consider Jerry Garcia's vocals as irreplaceable.

    Thank you. (F.Y.I., Be on look out for wiles performed by Trump appointee Cotton (from Arkansas) who for years has sucked upon the teat of Israel. The Mainstream Media has the U.S. population magnetized to Putin's subversive election action and excludes Netanyahu's subversion which is right-in-front of their noses.
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  • @Philip Giraldi
    Brian Mast will soon be on his way to Israel together with the rest of the freshman class to have an all expenses paid luxury 360 degree experience learning all about the terrible Ayrabs and Persians who continue to threaten America's best friend and closest ally. I wonder what Mast thought he was accomplishing while kicking in doors in Afghanistan? Did he ever question why he was there? Now he is a congressman with nary a thought of anything contrary in his head. Kind of makes you sick.

    Hey, I was just going through a couple videos on Youtube and came across the news that Obama is boiling mad at a certain someone. Thought you’d get a kick out of it. :)

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    Thanks for the link, Junior! Gotta love this guy:

    "Why do you think Ambassador Christopher Stephens was left to die? Because he was a witness to Hillary Clinton's crimes of gun-running and supporting ISIS.....end of story."

    If only the "Benghazi, Benghazi" relatives of the dead would catch on to the underlying story. It's not too late. Hilligula (along with the O'Bombster) should be indicted for the felony of providing aid to terrorists.
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  • @chris
    Those are excellent pictures Chuck, thanks !

    Yeah, those were times back then, the Grateful Dead had had a concert in Egypt in front of the pyramids in 1978 (3 years before your visit); anything like that is inconceivable today.

    And a great deal of the change for the worse was orchestrated by our "bestes ally" over there through the strings they pull in the western world. Gone is the statesmanship veneer of their leaders from back then, today they are fraught in a mix of paranoia and triumphalism, lead by a troglodytic, knuckle-headed moron; this is not how you pave the way to years of peace but exactly how you fall off the cliff.

    "Yahoo" is no Moses, they will end up learning the lessons of the old testament the hard way, all over again.

    Chris,

    During my stay at Jolie Ville Hotel in Giza, during evenings, I walked lonely streets, looking for something to do. At the time, I noted no women were around and upon my return to the States, a friend, Hossam el’Bassiouni, told me Islamic tradition forbade a man’s simply meeting with an Egyptian girl and going on a simple date. One had to first meet with the girl’s Muslim family, eat dinner, and sing traditional songs until a comfort level was reached when a couple could go out together alone.

    As you noted, and my knowing that “The Dead” played close to the Great Pyramid and Sphinx, I was hard pressed to imagine an Islamic audience getting down and wild to Grateful Dead’s cool version of “Good Loving.” Inside a taxi cab ride on a Cairo street, the driver’s radio played songs and he sang along with the voice described as “Egypt’s Elvis Presley.” Also, I noticed a very cool “Grateful Dead” poster for sale and I regret having not stopped and making purchase. Below is a “link” to an article on the intriguing Dead album “Blues for Allah.”

    http://www.dead.net/features/greatest-stories-ever-told/greatest-stories-ever-told-blues-allah

    I totally agree with you, Chris. “Inconceivable” that popular (& industry approved) American musicians would play anywhere in the Middle East except for Tel Aviv of course. Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.

    Re; I consider your final sentence prophetic, “… (Zionists) they will end up learning the lessons of the Old Testament the hard way, all over again.” Even casual American news readers can detect how much world wide anger there is for Israel’s never ending apartheid government, which just a couple months ago got a 10-year $38 billion gift from Netanyahu’s pretend nemesis, the Obama administration.

    Like you (perhaps), I do believe evil governments get a “free ride” for too long periods of time, but one can merely look at the outspoken & angry comments simmering at P. Giraldi’s present article. Master Zionist political-planners know and expect levels of population resentment! Grave danger is that they have President Donald Trump’s mighty military arsenal at their back and I have a sense that a “Superpower” Middle East solution, advantageous to Greater Israel territorial design, will be soon underway.

    Post scriptum: I follow with interest how our USrael government is gradually legalizing weed. That’s good but I have a little foreboding! While riding in the Cairo taxi, I asked my friendly driver, “How is it that everywhere I look, there’s men on curbs playing backgammon and taking hits on hashish bongs? Why don’t they get busted by Egyptian cops?’

    “Ha-ha! Situation much different here. Egyptian people can possess and smoke just about all the hashish they desire! President Sadat government like it that way when majority jobless citizens are STONED so that they do not take to streets and riot! Everybody happy to some political degree… Ha-ha.”

    “Oh, I see, sir, thanks for the insight.” I distinctly recall how the cab driver rolled the word, riot, “ryye-yat.”

    Less than a year (?) after my return from the Middle East, and post-Sadat assassination, a terrorist mass shooting of tourists at Luxor’s cross Nile River (west bank) occurred at the Valley of the Queens. Right now, Chris, I am looking at my picture of the Temple of Queen Hatshepsut including an Egyptian tour guide (wearing a cabbie cap) and his looking straight into the lens of my “Brownie” automatic camera. The photo is modern of course but his gaze is ancient.

    Thank you!

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    Thanks again for your great reply, Chuck !

    Master Zionist political-planners know and expect levels of population resentment! Grave danger is that they have President Donald Trump’s mighty military arsenal at their back and I have a sense that a “Superpower” Middle East solution, advantageous to Greater Israel territorial design, will be soon underway.
     
    I certainly understand your apprehension, but the thing about Trump is that he can't easily be bribed, he hates to loose, and he doesn't like to be told what to do.

    He won't roll over like those cowards, Bush and Obama; and Yahoo knows this ! A new Gaza offensive, mass expulsions, or incursion into Lebanon or Sinai, which is what is probably being planned in Tel Aviv, won't go smoothly with president Trump. The way I look at it, is that a bull might do a lot of good in a very kitschy china shop.

    I know it's not much of a hand for us but they're the only cards we've got!

    PS Thanks a lot for the link to "Blues for Allah." "One from the Vault" is my favorite Dead album !
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  • @Chuck Orloski
    "Regarding the pictures you posted..."

    Chris, I appreciated your cross-time/space insight, "Today Israel is more like Rome was in Jesus's time."

    In addition, I tried to transfer the pics using imgur.com, and below (hopefully!) you can view them.

    http://imgur.com/L75giob

    Most important are the two pics which depict my Palestinian tour guide. The bottom photo includes me and the two Israeli soldiers nearby the Dead Sea Scroll museum. For the sake of verification, I hope the pics appear!

    I totally agree with you that priests should not get involved with weapon smuggling. As you know, Chris, deceptive "Set Ups" (Framing) happened both in the past and to this very date. (Having read John Le Carre's novel, "The Little Drummer Girl," I can not ignore the possibility of weapons being planted in the Archbishop's car)

    P.S.: Initially, I considered making a response to "iffen" @ comment 214. He proposed that my forced-photo with Israeli soldiers was added to the "Jew-hater" list, just in case I happened to make return to Jerusalem. "iffen's" guess is as good as mine and I let it be... knowing full that the Parousia might happen quicker than I could possibly make a return to the Holy Land. .

    Those are excellent pictures Chuck, thanks !

    Yeah, those were times back then, the Grateful Dead had had a concert in Egypt in front of the pyramids in 1978 (3 years before your visit); anything like that is inconceivable today.

    And a great deal of the change for the worse was orchestrated by our “bestes ally” over there through the strings they pull in the western world. Gone is the statesmanship veneer of their leaders from back then, today they are fraught in a mix of paranoia and triumphalism, lead by a troglodytic, knuckle-headed moron; this is not how you pave the way to years of peace but exactly how you fall off the cliff.

    “Yahoo” is no Moses, they will end up learning the lessons of the old testament the hard way, all over again.

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    Chris,

    During my stay at Jolie Ville Hotel in Giza, during evenings, I walked lonely streets, looking for something to do. At the time, I noted no women were around and upon my return to the States, a friend, Hossam el'Bassiouni, told me Islamic tradition forbade a man's simply meeting with an Egyptian girl and going on a simple date. One had to first meet with the girl's Muslim family, eat dinner, and sing traditional songs until a comfort level was reached when a couple could go out together alone.

    As you noted, and my knowing that "The Dead" played close to the Great Pyramid and Sphinx, I was hard pressed to imagine an Islamic audience getting down and wild to Grateful Dead's cool version of "Good Loving." Inside a taxi cab ride on a Cairo street, the driver's radio played songs and he sang along with the voice described as "Egypt's Elvis Presley." Also, I noticed a very cool "Grateful Dead" poster for sale and I regret having not stopped and making purchase. Below is a "link" to an article on the intriguing Dead album "Blues for Allah."

    http://www.dead.net/features/greatest-stories-ever-told/greatest-stories-ever-told-blues-allah

    I totally agree with you, Chris. "Inconceivable" that popular (& industry approved) American musicians would play anywhere in the Middle East except for Tel Aviv of course. Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.

    Re; I consider your final sentence prophetic, "... (Zionists) they will end up learning the lessons of the Old Testament the hard way, all over again." Even casual American news readers can detect how much world wide anger there is for Israel's never ending apartheid government, which just a couple months ago got a 10-year $38 billion gift from Netanyahu's pretend nemesis, the Obama administration.

    Like you (perhaps), I do believe evil governments get a "free ride" for too long periods of time, but one can merely look at the outspoken & angry comments simmering at P. Giraldi's present article. Master Zionist political-planners know and expect levels of population resentment! Grave danger is that they have President Donald Trump's mighty military arsenal at their back and I have a sense that a "Superpower" Middle East solution, advantageous to Greater Israel territorial design, will be soon underway.

    Post scriptum: I follow with interest how our USrael government is gradually legalizing weed. That's good but I have a little foreboding! While riding in the Cairo taxi, I asked my friendly driver, "How is it that everywhere I look, there's men on curbs playing backgammon and taking hits on hashish bongs? Why don't they get busted by Egyptian cops?'

    "Ha-ha! Situation much different here. Egyptian people can possess and smoke just about all the hashish they desire! President Sadat government like it that way when majority jobless citizens are STONED so that they do not take to streets and riot! Everybody happy to some political degree... Ha-ha."

    "Oh, I see, sir, thanks for the insight." I distinctly recall how the cab driver rolled the word, riot, "ryye-yat."

    Less than a year (?) after my return from the Middle East, and post-Sadat assassination, a terrorist mass shooting of tourists at Luxor's cross Nile River (west bank) occurred at the Valley of the Queens. Right now, Chris, I am looking at my picture of the Temple of Queen Hatshepsut including an Egyptian tour guide (wearing a cabbie cap) and his looking straight into the lens of my "Brownie" automatic camera. The photo is modern of course but his gaze is ancient.

    Thank you!
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  • So it is not complete backgroud until a thoroughly examination over a big cause of 911, completed.

    Dont belittle it.

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  • Quislings in Congress and the Media need to decide which comes first

    What comes first are their smelly arses. They know what happens when they defy the well funded terrorist mafiosi.

    From a good article on how the Zionists are not only terrorists, but anti-Semites. They stop at nothing.

    The historical record makes plain what should already have been obvious from the present reality—that Israel’s and Zionism’s pretenses regarding Jews and Judaism, and in particular its pretense of being a response to anti-Semitism and Jewish persecution, is a fraud. Indeed quite the opposite, it thrives by exacerbating and capitalizing on these, and has turned them into a cynical, deadly business.

    -Tom Suarez,Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/

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  • @Anon
    My hunch is that the job will be done with genetically engineered, Arab-selective bacteriological weapons. Israel has researched these for decades. If the right technology was available, manufacturing a cover story would be the easy part..

    The Israelis need the bloodthirsty Arabs as an enemy. The entire point of Israel is to live off the tax empt donations of the American Jews and the goyishe kopf American taxpayer.

    Without the bloodthirsty Arabs threatening God’s chosen the need to give and give and give to Israel would stop.

    And they might have to go to work at something other than fundraising.

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  • @chris
    Thanks a lot, Chuck !

    I really appreciate your telling me the rest of your story. Yeah, those are difficult decisions to make at a certain age and in certain times and it is not clear you really could have helped your guide through your inquiry. Back in 1981 they were probably still playing be the Marquis of Queensbury rules compared to what they're doing nowadays.

    Regarding the pictures you posted, I wasn't able to see them because I think the links you provided are local to your computer. I tried to search on google images but the pictures you described were not among what came up.

    Very interesting story of Archbishop Capucci!
    I don't think a priest should be involved with smuggling weapons, but the story of his escapades illustrates how different the times were back then. It was still a struggle of equals. Today Israel is more like Rome was in the times of Jesus, an overwhelming force, void of any sense of justice.

    Take care, Chris

    “Regarding the pictures you posted…”

    Chris, I appreciated your cross-time/space insight, “Today Israel is more like Rome was in Jesus’s time.”

    In addition, I tried to transfer the pics using imgur.com, and below (hopefully!) you can view them.

    http://imgur.com/L75giob

    Most important are the two pics which depict my Palestinian tour guide. The bottom photo includes me and the two Israeli soldiers nearby the Dead Sea Scroll museum. For the sake of verification, I hope the pics appear!

    I totally agree with you that priests should not get involved with weapon smuggling. As you know, Chris, deceptive “Set Ups” (Framing) happened both in the past and to this very date. (Having read John Le Carre’s novel, “The Little Drummer Girl,” I can not ignore the possibility of weapons being planted in the Archbishop’s car)

    P.S.: Initially, I considered making a response to “iffen” @ comment 214. He proposed that my forced-photo with Israeli soldiers was added to the “Jew-hater” list, just in case I happened to make return to Jerusalem. “iffen’s” guess is as good as mine and I let it be… knowing full that the Parousia might happen quicker than I could possibly make a return to the Holy Land. .

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    Those are excellent pictures Chuck, thanks !

    Yeah, those were times back then, the Grateful Dead had had a concert in Egypt in front of the pyramids in 1978 (3 years before your visit); anything like that is inconceivable today.

    And a great deal of the change for the worse was orchestrated by our "bestes ally" over there through the strings they pull in the western world. Gone is the statesmanship veneer of their leaders from back then, today they are fraught in a mix of paranoia and triumphalism, lead by a troglodytic, knuckle-headed moron; this is not how you pave the way to years of peace but exactly how you fall off the cliff.

    "Yahoo" is no Moses, they will end up learning the lessons of the old testament the hard way, all over again.
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  • @chris
    Thanks a lot, Chuck !

    I really appreciate your telling me the rest of your story. Yeah, those are difficult decisions to make at a certain age and in certain times and it is not clear you really could have helped your guide through your inquiry. Back in 1981 they were probably still playing be the Marquis of Queensbury rules compared to what they're doing nowadays.

    Regarding the pictures you posted, I wasn't able to see them because I think the links you provided are local to your computer. I tried to search on google images but the pictures you described were not among what came up.

    Very interesting story of Archbishop Capucci!
    I don't think a priest should be involved with smuggling weapons, but the story of his escapades illustrates how different the times were back then. It was still a struggle of equals. Today Israel is more like Rome was in the times of Jesus, an overwhelming force, void of any sense of justice.

    Take care, Chris

    Correction: “Today Israel is more like Rome was in the times of Jesus” – sorry this is noting like the truth.

    I think only South Africa in the 1970s is analogous, and even that was probably a lot milder !

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  • @geokat62

    Israel more or less neutral as far as I can see, while US with the enthusiastic support of all other NATO countries, massacres Arabs every day in the last quarter of century. When they don’t bomb them – they kill them by sanctions.
     
    On whose behalf is the US massacring Arabs every day in the last quarter century?

    Have you read Mearsheimer and Walt's The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy?

    Here's the 60-page essay version http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

    Take a quick read and let us know whether you still think "Israel [is] more or less neutral as far as I can see."

    On whose behalf? American Military-industrial complex made a lot of money. Oil corporations, American and UK, they also got very good deals in Iraq. Some of those money went to American politicians of course – without them nothing would happen. I tell you who is looser – all human kind, ordinary people, first of all Arabs, but also Americans, Israelites and all the rest.

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  • @Chuck Orloski
    "Sounds like a story from the Soviet Union."

    I am very pleased you responded to my story, Chris, and thank you.

    Frankly, I did not try and determine what happened to the Palestinian guide. My explanation may sound like a "cop out," but I will tell you why.

    At age 24, while a Teamster dock worker at Roadway Express, Tannersville, PA, & during breaks and lunch time, I read the New York Times. Subsequently, I became aware about the tense and dangerous political situation involving Jews and Palestinians. So prior to my departure for the Middle East, I learned about the fate of the great Melkite Archbishop, Hilarion Capucci, who in 1974, was charged with smuggling weapons to Palestinians and arrested by the Israelis. (Note, last week, Archbishop Capucci passed away at age 94) Please look at N.Y. Times obituary, below?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/world/middleeast/hilarion-capucci-archbishop-jailed-for-aiding-palestinian-militants-dies-at-94.html?_r=0

    Safe inside the Mount Scopus Hotel, Jerusalem, age 29, the next morning (1/1981) I admit to being guilty of a "sin of omission" and did nothing to learn about what happened to the Palestinian guide.

    At approximately 10 am, the Byzantine Catholic priest and I were driven to the Dead Sea Scroll museum located in West Jerusalem. I'll never forget walking toward the museum and being approached by two (2) young Israeli soldiers.

    Weirdly, without even saying "hello," the two seized me took by the arms, and posed while an unknown person took a picture. Soon as the picture was taken, I asked the Byzantine Catholic priest to also take a snap shot of the three of us and he obliged. (NOTE: Later I'll try to get a cell phone picture that will display the arrested Palestinian tour guide and in addition, the peculiar picture of me with the two Israeli soldiers, nearby the Dead Sea scroll museum)

    To conclude, Chris, while in Jerusalem, the American hostages were released by Iran. Months later, President Anwar Satat was assassinated! My memories from time spent in the Middle East are FRESH. This past Christmas Eve 2016, I attended services at St. Joseph's Melkite Church, Cabrini Avenue, with friend Lindy Morelli, a Carmelite Nun/Coordinator of Lighthouse. Lindy is blind since birth. So you know, Lindy Morelli shares my concerns for Palestinians and all others who are "put upon" and as you please, her web site is available.

    Post scriptum: Not to try and exaggerate this experience, but I am hoping either iffen or Sam Shama chimes in here. I like when people freely speak their minds on the U.S./Israel "special" relationship because time is running out for such luxury)

    Thanks a lot, Chuck !

    I really appreciate your telling me the rest of your story. Yeah, those are difficult decisions to make at a certain age and in certain times and it is not clear you really could have helped your guide through your inquiry. Back in 1981 they were probably still playing be the Marquis of Queensbury rules compared to what they’re doing nowadays.

    Regarding the pictures you posted, I wasn’t able to see them because I think the links you provided are local to your computer. I tried to search on google images but the pictures you described were not among what came up.

    Very interesting story of Archbishop Capucci!
    I don’t think a priest should be involved with smuggling weapons, but the story of his escapades illustrates how different the times were back then. It was still a struggle of equals. Today Israel is more like Rome was in the times of Jesus, an overwhelming force, void of any sense of justice.

    Take care, Chris

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    Correction: "Today Israel is more like Rome was in the times of Jesus" - sorry this is noting like the truth.

    I think only South Africa in the 1970s is analogous, and even that was probably a lot milder !
    , @Chuck Orloski
    "Regarding the pictures you posted..."

    Chris, I appreciated your cross-time/space insight, "Today Israel is more like Rome was in Jesus's time."

    In addition, I tried to transfer the pics using imgur.com, and below (hopefully!) you can view them.

    http://imgur.com/L75giob

    Most important are the two pics which depict my Palestinian tour guide. The bottom photo includes me and the two Israeli soldiers nearby the Dead Sea Scroll museum. For the sake of verification, I hope the pics appear!

    I totally agree with you that priests should not get involved with weapon smuggling. As you know, Chris, deceptive "Set Ups" (Framing) happened both in the past and to this very date. (Having read John Le Carre's novel, "The Little Drummer Girl," I can not ignore the possibility of weapons being planted in the Archbishop's car)

    P.S.: Initially, I considered making a response to "iffen" @ comment 214. He proposed that my forced-photo with Israeli soldiers was added to the "Jew-hater" list, just in case I happened to make return to Jerusalem. "iffen's" guess is as good as mine and I let it be... knowing full that the Parousia might happen quicker than I could possibly make a return to the Holy Land. .
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  • @Aaron Aarons
    Your first paragraph doesn't apply to me, since I have always encouraged people I interact with to repudiate Israel along with its patron, the U.S..

    But the rest of what you write is arrogant, patronizing nonsense. On a technological level, the indigenous peoples of North America were living like Northern Europeans had been living a few hundred, or maybe even a few thousand, years earlier, but they were, for the most part, living decent lives. The main thing the white invaders did was to kill the overwhelming majority of those native people and force the survivors onto lands that could barely sustain life. And the settler population's capitalists continue to ignore treaties and deny the indigenous survivors the rights to the wealth that is often discovered on their remaining land. Pay them for this wealth, and past stolen wealth, as white property owners would be paid, and the native peoples wouldn't have any need fot all those programs you refer to. Largesse, my ass!

    But you know all that, don't you?

    BTW, a disproportionate contribution to the inventions that whites generously bestowed upon the ghosts of those they exterminated was made by Jews, who are only, and then without acknowledgement, included as whites when it suits the needs of Christian white supremacists.

    a disproportionate contribution to the inventions that whites generously bestowed upon the ghosts of those they exterminated was made by Jews

    Gee – what inventions were those?

    One of your tribe just claimed the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are Jew documents.

    Perhaps you can add to that also?

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Jew did contribute to WESTERN science. There is no Jew science – right!

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  • @Chuck Orloski
    "Sounds like a story from the Soviet Union."

    I am very pleased you responded to my story, Chris, and thank you.

    Frankly, I did not try and determine what happened to the Palestinian guide. My explanation may sound like a "cop out," but I will tell you why.

    At age 24, while a Teamster dock worker at Roadway Express, Tannersville, PA, & during breaks and lunch time, I read the New York Times. Subsequently, I became aware about the tense and dangerous political situation involving Jews and Palestinians. So prior to my departure for the Middle East, I learned about the fate of the great Melkite Archbishop, Hilarion Capucci, who in 1974, was charged with smuggling weapons to Palestinians and arrested by the Israelis. (Note, last week, Archbishop Capucci passed away at age 94) Please look at N.Y. Times obituary, below?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/world/middleeast/hilarion-capucci-archbishop-jailed-for-aiding-palestinian-militants-dies-at-94.html?_r=0

    Safe inside the Mount Scopus Hotel, Jerusalem, age 29, the next morning (1/1981) I admit to being guilty of a "sin of omission" and did nothing to learn about what happened to the Palestinian guide.

    At approximately 10 am, the Byzantine Catholic priest and I were driven to the Dead Sea Scroll museum located in West Jerusalem. I'll never forget walking toward the museum and being approached by two (2) young Israeli soldiers.

    Weirdly, without even saying "hello," the two seized me took by the arms, and posed while an unknown person took a picture. Soon as the picture was taken, I asked the Byzantine Catholic priest to also take a snap shot of the three of us and he obliged. (NOTE: Later I'll try to get a cell phone picture that will display the arrested Palestinian tour guide and in addition, the peculiar picture of me with the two Israeli soldiers, nearby the Dead Sea scroll museum)

    To conclude, Chris, while in Jerusalem, the American hostages were released by Iran. Months later, President Anwar Satat was assassinated! My memories from time spent in the Middle East are FRESH. This past Christmas Eve 2016, I attended services at St. Joseph's Melkite Church, Cabrini Avenue, with friend Lindy Morelli, a Carmelite Nun/Coordinator of Lighthouse. Lindy is blind since birth. So you know, Lindy Morelli shares my concerns for Palestinians and all others who are "put upon" and as you please, her web site is available.

    Post scriptum: Not to try and exaggerate this experience, but I am hoping either iffen or Sam Shama chimes in here. I like when people freely speak their minds on the U.S./Israel "special" relationship because time is running out for such luxury)

    but I am hoping either iffen

    Perhaps you were suspected of being a secret Jew-hater, they were afraid that the Palestinian was passing along more material for Jew-hating and took him out. Your photo, of course, was for the suspected Jew-hater roster, in case you came back.

    Pure speculation on my part, Chuck.

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    Iffen.... Remember the title "America or Israel


    Why so many Jew haters?

    http://www.ihr.org/audio/archives/straight-talk-about-zionism
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  • @Anon-og
    Judeo-Christian
    I don’t think so!

    "The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would be like saying Satanic-Christianity. The religion now called Judaism did not even come formally into existence until six hundred years after Jesus Christ. It began with the codification of the Babylonian Talmud. In Judaism, the Talmud is the supreme scripture, not the Old Testament. Only Satanism can rival Judaism’s vicious hatred for Jesus Christ. The Talmud even claims that Jesus Christ is being punished in hell by “being boiled in hot semen!”1
    When I first read this hateful Talmudic quote, I just couldn’t believe it. Maybe you don’t believe what I am saying right now, but read on and I will prove to you that this quotation is accurate and that Judaism is intrinsically and viciously anti-Christian. Judaism is the embodiment of the same Satanic tradition that Christ condemned when He referred to “the synagogue of Satan.” (Rev. 2-9) What I say here I can prove in the documented words of the most sacred texts of Judaism and in the clearly documented words of the highest authorities of Judaism itself, and even more importantly, in the scriptures of the New Testament.
    Interestingly enough, Islam is much closer to Christianity than Judaism. For instance, Judaism condemns the Virgin Mary as a prostitute and viciously condemns Jesus as an evil sorcerer and a bastard. The Talmud even claims that Jesus was a sexual pervert who had intercourse relations with his donkey. In stark contrast, although Islam certainly does not share all the Christian views of Jesus Christ, it views Christ as a true prophet of God, virgin-born, and that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. Ironically, the chief religious book of Islam, the Qur’an, actually defends Jesus Christ from the obscene slanders made against Him in the Jewish Talmud.

    https://argoweaver.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/judeo-christianity-the-big-lie-promoted-by-the-deceivers-in-the-christian-radio-broadcast-businessr-b-n-for-example/

    I’m pretty sure Jesus boils in hot human manure, not semen.
    What’s interesting is that the Talmud relates the same story as the NT. Mary was not married; his father was a manual laborer, the lowest of the low, lower than a beggar or criminal in Jewish eyes.

    Mary could not support Jesus and sold him as a slave to an Egyptian circus where trained as a magician. Having served his 30 years of slavery he came back to Judea abd used his magician tricks to convert the gullible proles and peasants to his heresy.

    Change Mary and Joseph to a respectable couple, send them to Egypt with their newborn for an undetermined period of time, Jesus suddenly appears as an adult preaching heresy, and the stories are similar in the important parts.

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  • @Anon
    I am secure in understanding, not owning, the facts. You cook the bs foo-yong.

    Good, thanks for clarification, Anon. Your understating is obviously your own business, entirely. As long as it’s your personal understanding, I have no problem with “Tibet is not a province of China” or “the moon is made of cheese”, or any other statement you may come up with. Keep ‘em coming, by all means. Cheers.

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  • @Junior

    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything like some are trying to go for that route.
     
    Wait, what happened? Who did what now? As usual... I'm confused :)

    Hey... wait a second... AstuteObservor 2 are you the poster previously known as AstuteConfusor 1? I KNEW IT! Well played, sir. Well played. ;)

    My mistake. I think I may have misconstrued Ji's statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn't for that reason. Looking back on it I THINK that Ji is saying that the US "elite" are using Israel, but I should clarify my position if Ji is because I believe the opposite. Israel is using the US "elite", and the Global "elite" are using Israel. This macro vs. micro view of the distinction between the Global and American "elite" is one that is extremely important.

    The Central Bankster Global "elite" don't care about Israel or the US or our "elite". They use us ALL as pawns on their grand chessboard. They already control the world by controlling the global money supply but at this point all they care about is consolidating their power. Their endgame for all the chaos they've been causing is Global Governance. That's all that One World Government is, a consolidation of power. I believe that Israel is going to be used to set off WW3. The Global "elite" don't even live in Israel. They are headquartered in Switzerland where there are nice big alp mountains to hide themselves and their plunder under when the proverbial shit hits the fan.

    With all that being said of my THEORY about them hiding in the Alps and that Israel will be used as the spark for WW3, the FACT remains that Zionism is strangling this country. I believe that breaking the chain that Israel holds over the US should be the immediate priority due to the lives being lost in these wars for Israel. The next step, freeing our chains from the Central Banks... if there's still time and that is even possible at this point.

    It seems that in my misunderstanding of Ji, I've in turn been misunderstood. Hope that I've clarified my self-muddied position. :)

    Oh, lawd, please don't let me be misunderstood

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo

    hahaha :P my theory is that the global “elite” is no different than the us “elite” or the jewish “elite”. they are interchangeable. especially the us/jewish “elite”. all three are just factions of the same “elite” group? that has to be it. they are all getting something out of it. jewish “elites” are the ones with the most obvious perk, they are given free reign when it comes to land grabbing, in 2017 no less :) it is too visible and catching alot of flak.

    fyi, I think my previous comment actually goes rather well with your last comment :) you were saying jewish power is as powerful as ever, while I supported that notion :) 2 negatives makes a positive! :P

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  • @Mao Cheng Ji

    I think I may have misconstrued Ji’s statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn’t for that reason.
     
    The point I was trying to make is that having a powerful organization (i.e. the Teamsters) is no guarantee that the establishment is going to kiss your ass. If you're useful to them, they'll glorify you anyway (a with the afghan mujahideen in the 1980s), and if you're a threat to them, they'll destroy you no matter how powerful your lobby is (as with the trade unions).

    hell, teamsters and trade unions had to go before jobs/manufacturing can be outsourced. there was no chance they stand a chance if it affected the bottom-line.

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  • @chris
    Interesting story, Chuck. Sounds just like a story from the Soviet Union !

    Did you try to find out what happened to your guide? Might not have cost you too much, but it would sure have helped your guide.

    Chris,

    Attached below are “Brownie automatic” photos (1-page) which correspond to my January 1981 journey to the Middle East and comment # 187.

    file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Orloski/LOCALS~1/Temp/20170106_114002-1.jpg

    Top left is a camel & me in front of Great Pyramid, Giza.

    Top right is Masada & Dead Sea in background.

    Bottom left is Palestinian tour guide at Nablus.

    Bottom right is the tour guide at Capernaum.

    The final pic displays the 2-Israeli soldiers (and me) nearby West Jerusalem-based Dead Sea Scroll Museum museum. To reiterate, the 2-soldiers just took me by the arm and someone unknown took the snapshot. The available one — taken by companion, a Byzantine Catholic priest — shows me less befuddled and smiling!

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  • “Obama’s Betrayal of Israel at the U.N. Must Not Stand”

    Hard to ague with this sentiment… our leaders in Washington are so busy betraying America we simply cannot burden them with having to sell out another nation.

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  • @Mao Cheng Ji
    You have the right to an opinion, and to worship the guy known as the 'Dalai Lama', as you wish. You do not, however, have the right to your own facts. Tibet is a province of China.

    I am secure in understanding, not owning, the facts. You cook the bs foo-yong.

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    Good, thanks for clarification, Anon. Your understating is obviously your own business, entirely. As long as it's your personal understanding, I have no problem with "Tibet is not a province of China" or "the moon is made of cheese", or any other statement you may come up with. Keep 'em coming, by all means. Cheers.
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  • @chris
    Interesting story, Chuck. Sounds just like a story from the Soviet Union !

    Did you try to find out what happened to your guide? Might not have cost you too much, but it would sure have helped your guide.

    “Sounds like a story from the Soviet Union.”

    I am very pleased you responded to my story, Chris, and thank you.

    Frankly, I did not try and determine what happened to the Palestinian guide. My explanation may sound like a “cop out,” but I will tell you why.

    At age 24, while a Teamster dock worker at Roadway Express, Tannersville, PA, & during breaks and lunch time, I read the New York Times. Subsequently, I became aware about the tense and dangerous political situation involving Jews and Palestinians. So prior to my departure for the Middle East, I learned about the fate of the great Melkite Archbishop, Hilarion Capucci, who in 1974, was charged with smuggling weapons to Palestinians and arrested by the Israelis. (Note, last week, Archbishop Capucci passed away at age 94) Please look at N.Y. Times obituary, below?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/world/middleeast/hilarion-capucci-archbishop-jailed-for-aiding-palestinian-militants-dies-at-94.html?_r=0

    Safe inside the Mount Scopus Hotel, Jerusalem, age 29, the next morning (1/1981) I admit to being guilty of a “sin of omission” and did nothing to learn about what happened to the Palestinian guide.

    At approximately 10 am, the Byzantine Catholic priest and I were driven to the Dead Sea Scroll museum located in West Jerusalem. I’ll never forget walking toward the museum and being approached by two (2) young Israeli soldiers.

    Weirdly, without even saying “hello,” the two seized me took by the arms, and posed while an unknown person took a picture. Soon as the picture was taken, I asked the Byzantine Catholic priest to also take a snap shot of the three of us and he obliged. (NOTE: Later I’ll try to get a cell phone picture that will display the arrested Palestinian tour guide and in addition, the peculiar picture of me with the two Israeli soldiers, nearby the Dead Sea scroll museum)

    To conclude, Chris, while in Jerusalem, the American hostages were released by Iran. Months later, President Anwar Satat was assassinated! My memories from time spent in the Middle East are FRESH. This past Christmas Eve 2016, I attended services at St. Joseph’s Melkite Church, Cabrini Avenue, with friend Lindy Morelli, a Carmelite Nun/Coordinator of Lighthouse. Lindy is blind since birth. So you know, Lindy Morelli shares my concerns for Palestinians and all others who are “put upon” and as you please, her web site is available.

    Post scriptum: Not to try and exaggerate this experience, but I am hoping either iffen or Sam Shama chimes in here. I like when people freely speak their minds on the U.S./Israel “special” relationship because time is running out for such luxury)

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    but I am hoping either iffen

    Perhaps you were suspected of being a secret Jew-hater, they were afraid that the Palestinian was passing along more material for Jew-hating and took him out. Your photo, of course, was for the suspected Jew-hater roster, in case you came back.

    Pure speculation on my part, Chuck.

    , @chris
    Thanks a lot, Chuck !

    I really appreciate your telling me the rest of your story. Yeah, those are difficult decisions to make at a certain age and in certain times and it is not clear you really could have helped your guide through your inquiry. Back in 1981 they were probably still playing be the Marquis of Queensbury rules compared to what they're doing nowadays.

    Regarding the pictures you posted, I wasn't able to see them because I think the links you provided are local to your computer. I tried to search on google images but the pictures you described were not among what came up.

    Very interesting story of Archbishop Capucci!
    I don't think a priest should be involved with smuggling weapons, but the story of his escapades illustrates how different the times were back then. It was still a struggle of equals. Today Israel is more like Rome was in the times of Jesus, an overwhelming force, void of any sense of justice.

    Take care, Chris
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  • @Mao Cheng Ji

    Tibetans say country
     
    I presume you are talking about ethnic Tibetans? Are you the officially appointed spokesman for each one of them? If so, please upload your credentials.

    Anyway, since Tibet is both de facto and de jure a province of China, your (impressive) effort of simultaneously reading the minds of 7 million people doesn't really matter.

    Tibet is both de facto and de jure a province of China

    So, you were playing coy, you do know where provinces come from.

    You are also not the only one who knows where political power comes from.

    the officially appointed spokesman for each one of them

    No dawg in that fight, just observing.

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  • @Mikhailovich
    Lot of money and efforts invested in the hatred. And that is not only about Jews. The strategy of the Elites of the West is to divide the people and make them hate each other, so they would be able to manipulate all of them and make meanwhile even more money.

    Elites of the West is to divide the people and make them hate each other, so they would be able to manipulate all of them and make meanwhile even more money.

    And they are very, very good at it and have been for centuries. Some say that they can never be defeated.

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  • @iffen
    I am so good that I no longer have to follow the manual. I have been given the okay to wing-it.

    I'm not sure if you're genuinely unable to understand that what makes an entity a province or not is what the one doing the provincing decides. I say to-ma-to; you say to-mah-to. Han say province; Tibetans say country.

    Tibetans say country

    I presume you are talking about ethnic Tibetans? Are you the officially appointed spokesman for each one of them? If so, please upload your credentials.

    Anyway, since Tibet is both de facto and de jure a province of China, your (impressive) effort of simultaneously reading the minds of 7 million people doesn’t really matter.

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    Tibet is both de facto and de jure a province of China

    So, you were playing coy, you do know where provinces come from.

    You are also not the only one who knows where political power comes from.

    the officially appointed spokesman for each one of them

    No dawg in that fight, just observing.

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  • @Anon
    Tibet is not a province of China and jawboning that truth won't make one bit of a difference. All Tibetans, foremost the Dalai Lama would laugh at your nonsense; many including the DL fled to Dharamsala, India, to escape Chinese ethnic cleansing. Han Chinese have flooded the country since the 1950's.

    You have the right to an opinion, and to worship the guy known as the ‘Dalai Lama’, as you wish. You do not, however, have the right to your own facts. Tibet is a province of China.

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    I am secure in understanding, not owning, the facts. You cook the bs foo-yong.
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  • @iffen
    it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.

    Not really of major importance, any Jew will do when all you want to do is hate dem Jews.

    Lot of money and efforts invested in the hatred. And that is not only about Jews. The strategy of the Elites of the West is to divide the people and make them hate each other, so they would be able to manipulate all of them and make meanwhile even more money.

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    Elites of the West is to divide the people and make them hate each other, so they would be able to manipulate all of them and make meanwhile even more money.

    And they are very, very good at it and have been for centuries. Some say that they can never be defeated.
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  • @Mao Cheng Ji
    I am aware that you're unable to distinguish between a province (Tibet) and a settler-colonial entity (Israel).

    I'm not sure if you're genuinely unable to make this distinction, or you're just following your hasbara manual. In any case, there's nothing I can do for you.

    I am so good that I no longer have to follow the manual. I have been given the okay to wing-it.

    I’m not sure if you’re genuinely unable to understand that what makes an entity a province or not is what the one doing the provincing decides. I say to-ma-to; you say to-mah-to. Han say province; Tibetans say country.

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    Tibetans say country
     
    I presume you are talking about ethnic Tibetans? Are you the officially appointed spokesman for each one of them? If so, please upload your credentials.

    Anyway, since Tibet is both de facto and de jure a province of China, your (impressive) effort of simultaneously reading the minds of 7 million people doesn't really matter.
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  • @Mikhailovich
    Israel more or less neutral as far as I can see, while US with the enthusiastic support of all other NATO countries, massacres Arabs every day in the last quarter of century. When they don't bomb them - they kill them by sanctions.
    If The West wanted peace - they would have it long time ago.
    And this rabid Russo-phobia? Where it comes from? Israel? Israel doesn't even participate in anti-Russian sanctions.

    Israel more or less neutral as far as I can see, while US with the enthusiastic support of all other NATO countries, massacres Arabs every day in the last quarter of century. When they don’t bomb them – they kill them by sanctions.

    On whose behalf is the US massacring Arabs every day in the last quarter century?

    Have you read Mearsheimer and Walt’s The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy?

    Here’s the 60-page essay version http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

    Take a quick read and let us know whether you still think “Israel [is] more or less neutral as far as I can see.”

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    On whose behalf? American Military-industrial complex made a lot of money. Oil corporations, American and UK, they also got very good deals in Iraq. Some of those money went to American politicians of course - without them nothing would happen. I tell you who is looser - all human kind, ordinary people, first of all Arabs, but also Americans, Israelites and all the rest.
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji
    I am aware that you're unable to distinguish between a province (Tibet) and a settler-colonial entity (Israel).

    I'm not sure if you're genuinely unable to make this distinction, or you're just following your hasbara manual. In any case, there's nothing I can do for you.

    Tibet is not a province of China and jawboning that truth won’t make one bit of a difference. All Tibetans, foremost the Dalai Lama would laugh at your nonsense; many including the DL fled to Dharamsala, India, to escape Chinese ethnic cleansing. Han Chinese have flooded the country since the 1950′s.

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    You have the right to an opinion, and to worship the guy known as the 'Dalai Lama', as you wish. You do not, however, have the right to your own facts. Tibet is a province of China.
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  • @geokat62

    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.
     
    Technically you're right. Netanyahu shouted "Saddam must go." It was Sharon who shouted "Assad must go."


    Gunning for Syria

    Israeli leaders did not push the Bush administration to put the screws on Syria before March 2003; they were too busy pushing for war against Iraq. But once Baghdad fell in mid-April, Sharon and his lieutenants began urging Washington to target Damascus. On April 16, for example, Sharon and Shaul Mofaz, his defense minister, gave high-profile interviews in different Israeli newspapers. Sharon, in Yedioth Ahronoth, called for the United States to put "very heavy" pressure on Syria. Mofaz told Ma'ariv, "We have a long list of issues that we are thinking of demanding of the Syrians, and it is appropriate that it should be done through the Americans." Sharon's national security adviser, Ephraim Halevy, told a WINEP audience that it was now important for the United States to get rough with Syria. The Washington Post reported that Israel was "fueling the campaign" against Syria by feeding the United States intelligence reports about the actions of President Bashar al-Asad.

    Prominent members of the lobby made the same arguments after Baghdad fell. Wolfowitz declared, "There has got to be regime change in Syria." Richard Perle told a journalist, "We could deliver a short message, a two-word message [to other hostile regimes in the Middle East]: 'You're next'." In early April, WINEP released a bipartisan report stating that Syria "should not miss the message that countries that pursue Saddam's reckless, irresponsible and defiant behavior could end up sharing his fate." On April 15, Yossi Klein Halevi wrote a piece in The Los Angeles Times entitled "Next, Turn the Screws on Syria." The following day, Zev Chafets wrote an article for the New York Daily News entitled "Terror-Friendly Syria Needs a Change, Too." Not to be outdone, Lawrence Kaplan wrote in The New Republic on April 21 that Syrian leader Asad was a serious threat to America.

    Back on Capitol Hill, Congressman Eliot Engel (D-NY) had reintroduced the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act on April 12. It threatened sanctions against Syria if it did not withdraw from Lebanon, give up its WMD and stop supporting terrorism. It also called for Syria and Lebanon to take concrete steps to make peace with Israel. This legislation was strongly endorsed by the lobby — especially AIPAC — and "framed," according to the Jewish Telegraph Agency, "by some of Israel's best friends in Congress." It had been on the back burner for some time, largely because the Bush administration had little enthusiasm for it. But the anti-Syrian act passed overwhelmingly (398-4 in the House; 89-4 in the Senate), and Bush signed it into law on December 12, 2003.

    Yet the Bush administration was still divided about the wisdom of targeting Syria at that time. Although the neoconservatives were eager to pick a fight with Damascus, the CIA and the State Department were opposed. Even after Bush signed the new law, he emphasized that he would go slowly in implementing it.

    Bush's ambivalence is understandable. First, the Syrian government had been providing the United States with important intelligence about al-Qaeda since 9/11 and had also warned Washington about a planned terrorist attack in the Gulf.

    Syria had also given CIA interrogators access to Mohammed Zammar, the alleged recruiter of some of the 9/11 hijackers. Targeting the Asad regime would jeopardize these valuable connections and thus undermine the larger war on terrorism.

    Second, Syria was not on bad terms with Washington before the Iraq War (it had even voted for U.N. Resolution 1441), and it was no threat to the United States. Playing hardball with Syria would make the United States look like a bully with an insatiable appetite for beating up Arab states. Finally, putting Syria on the American hit list would give Damascus a powerful incentive to cause trouble in Iraq. Even if one wanted to pressure Syria, it made good sense to finish the job in Iraq first.

    Yet Congress insisted on putting the screws to Damascus, largely in response to pressure from Israeli officials and pro-Israel groups like AIPAC. If there were no lobby, there would have been no Syria Accountability Act, and U.S. policy toward Damascus would have been more in line with the U.S. national interest.

    http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

     

    Israel more or less neutral as far as I can see, while US with the enthusiastic support of all other NATO countries, massacres Arabs every day in the last quarter of century. When they don’t bomb them – they kill them by sanctions.
    If The West wanted peace – they would have it long time ago.
    And this rabid Russo-phobia? Where it comes from? Israel? Israel doesn’t even participate in anti-Russian sanctions.

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    Israel more or less neutral as far as I can see, while US with the enthusiastic support of all other NATO countries, massacres Arabs every day in the last quarter of century. When they don’t bomb them – they kill them by sanctions.
     
    On whose behalf is the US massacring Arabs every day in the last quarter century?

    Have you read Mearsheimer and Walt's The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy?

    Here's the 60-page essay version http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

    Take a quick read and let us know whether you still think "Israel [is] more or less neutral as far as I can see."
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  • @iffen
    Mid 20th century would be about 1950. (I am not a math whiz.)

    the eventual acceptance of the Seventeen Point Agreement by the Government of Tibet under Chinese pressure in October 1951.[1] The Government of Tibet and Tibetan social structure remained in place in the TAR under the authority of China until the 1959 Tibetan uprising, when the Dalai Lama fled into exile and after which the Government of Tibet was dissolved.
     

    I am aware that you’re unable to distinguish between a province (Tibet) and a settler-colonial entity (Israel).

    I’m not sure if you’re genuinely unable to make this distinction, or you’re just following your hasbara manual. In any case, there’s nothing I can do for you.

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    Tibet is not a province of China and jawboning that truth won't make one bit of a difference. All Tibetans, foremost the Dalai Lama would laugh at your nonsense; many including the DL fled to Dharamsala, India, to escape Chinese ethnic cleansing. Han Chinese have flooded the country since the 1950's.
    , @iffen
    I am so good that I no longer have to follow the manual. I have been given the okay to wing-it.

    I'm not sure if you're genuinely unable to understand that what makes an entity a province or not is what the one doing the provincing decides. I say to-ma-to; you say to-mah-to. Han say province; Tibetans say country.
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  • @Mao Cheng Ji
    It's true that Zionism is the same thing as 18-19th century European settler-colonialism in North America.

    The difference is that this is the 21th century now. Once upon a time, cannibalism was commonly practiced by humans, but we don't do it anymore. Some things that were considered normal then, are completely unacceptable now. Slavery, for example. And settler-colonialism is one of these unacceptable things. The period of colonialism ended, somewhere in the mid-20th century. It's unacceptable, end of story.

    Mid 20th century would be about 1950. (I am not a math whiz.)

    the eventual acceptance of the Seventeen Point Agreement by the Government of Tibet under Chinese pressure in October 1951.[1] The Government of Tibet and Tibetan social structure remained in place in the TAR under the authority of China until the 1959 Tibetan uprising, when the Dalai Lama fled into exile and after which the Government of Tibet was dissolved.

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    I am aware that you're unable to distinguish between a province (Tibet) and a settler-colonial entity (Israel).

    I'm not sure if you're genuinely unable to make this distinction, or you're just following your hasbara manual. In any case, there's nothing I can do for you.
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  • @Junior

    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything like some are trying to go for that route.
     
    Wait, what happened? Who did what now? As usual... I'm confused :)

    Hey... wait a second... AstuteObservor 2 are you the poster previously known as AstuteConfusor 1? I KNEW IT! Well played, sir. Well played. ;)

    My mistake. I think I may have misconstrued Ji's statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn't for that reason. Looking back on it I THINK that Ji is saying that the US "elite" are using Israel, but I should clarify my position if Ji is because I believe the opposite. Israel is using the US "elite", and the Global "elite" are using Israel. This macro vs. micro view of the distinction between the Global and American "elite" is one that is extremely important.

    The Central Bankster Global "elite" don't care about Israel or the US or our "elite". They use us ALL as pawns on their grand chessboard. They already control the world by controlling the global money supply but at this point all they care about is consolidating their power. Their endgame for all the chaos they've been causing is Global Governance. That's all that One World Government is, a consolidation of power. I believe that Israel is going to be used to set off WW3. The Global "elite" don't even live in Israel. They are headquartered in Switzerland where there are nice big alp mountains to hide themselves and their plunder under when the proverbial shit hits the fan.

    With all that being said of my THEORY about them hiding in the Alps and that Israel will be used as the spark for WW3, the FACT remains that Zionism is strangling this country. I believe that breaking the chain that Israel holds over the US should be the immediate priority due to the lives being lost in these wars for Israel. The next step, freeing our chains from the Central Banks... if there's still time and that is even possible at this point.

    It seems that in my misunderstanding of Ji, I've in turn been misunderstood. Hope that I've clarified my self-muddied position. :)

    Oh, lawd, please don't let me be misunderstood

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo

    I think I may have misconstrued Ji’s statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn’t for that reason.

    The point I was trying to make is that having a powerful organization (i.e. the Teamsters) is no guarantee that the establishment is going to kiss your ass. If you’re useful to them, they’ll glorify you anyway (a with the afghan mujahideen in the 1980s), and if you’re a threat to them, they’ll destroy you no matter how powerful your lobby is (as with the trade unions).

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    hell, teamsters and trade unions had to go before jobs/manufacturing can be outsourced. there was no chance they stand a chance if it affected the bottom-line.
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  • @Chuck Orloski
    Sam,

    Yes -- I even liked the music provided by "Pallywood."

    I'll share a true story on my January 1981 tour of the Middle East, including Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, and Israel, which upon return I wrote quite a comprehensive paper and received 3-undergraduate credits at University of Scranton.

    After my departure from coastal cities Haifa and Caesarea, I was provided with a Palestinian gentleman as tour guide. Riding in a Mercedes Benz, and along with an Ohio-born Byzantine Catholic priest, the Palestinian drove us to Jaffa, Nablus, and Bethlehem. Very learned and eager to talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the tour guide provided me with an alternative (non-Zionist) introduction to the steamy political situation.

    (Note Sam I keep photos of the Palestinian guide while at the Jaffa-based Franciscan Church of Peter at Nablus "Jacob's Well," and at the small door to Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity. Had I scan ability with my desktop, I'd do so and provide you with the pictures)

    At any rate, after spending two days in the Old City of Jerusalem, the tour guide drove the priest and I down the amazing highway leading to the Dead Sea. First stop Masada!

    We rode the lift to Masada peak, and besides the obvious ancient encampments, the first thing I saw was Israeli officers being "sworn in" beneath Israel's flag. Watching this stirring event, the tour guide nudged me and said, "The Israeli's do this as ritual & take a vow that there will never be another successful conqueror." Quite impressive!

    Time passed as I walked around the site and after approximately four (4) anxious hours, I realized that the Palestinian guide was MISSING. Very weird, I felt like an ancient Roman soldier who searched Masada's grounds to find only one "living" Zealot.

    Perhaps you might know, Sam Shama, the Masada site (at the time) was not very tourist friendly, like for example, the Civil War museum and refreshment perks available at Gettysburg. Frankly, I had to inquire around for a simple place to take a pee-pee.

    Late afternoon, I was approached by two men (plain clothes) who formally apologized for the inconvenience and informed me that the planned visit to Jericho had to be cancelled! Confused as shit, but tolerably understanding, I asked, "What happened to my tour guide... did he become ill?"

    "No. Your guide was arrested and taken back to Jerusalem."

    "Arrested? Uh, what did he do? He did such a good job!"

    "Never you mind, the guide made trouble. So just follow us and we'll take you back to the Mount Scopus Hotel. A new tour guide will be assigned to take you to West Jerusalem tomorrow and you can visit our Dead Sea scroll museum."

    W.T.F. ?

    Strange episode, eh, Sam Shama? And now here at Unz Review, a Byzantine Catholic and a Jew opines about Judawood and Pallywood.

    Wish you well and thanks for the talk.

    Interesting story, Chuck. Sounds just like a story from the Soviet Union !

    Did you try to find out what happened to your guide? Might not have cost you too much, but it would sure have helped your guide.

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    "Sounds like a story from the Soviet Union."

    I am very pleased you responded to my story, Chris, and thank you.

    Frankly, I did not try and determine what happened to the Palestinian guide. My explanation may sound like a "cop out," but I will tell you why.

    At age 24, while a Teamster dock worker at Roadway Express, Tannersville, PA, & during breaks and lunch time, I read the New York Times. Subsequently, I became aware about the tense and dangerous political situation involving Jews and Palestinians. So prior to my departure for the Middle East, I learned about the fate of the great Melkite Archbishop, Hilarion Capucci, who in 1974, was charged with smuggling weapons to Palestinians and arrested by the Israelis. (Note, last week, Archbishop Capucci passed away at age 94) Please look at N.Y. Times obituary, below?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/world/middleeast/hilarion-capucci-archbishop-jailed-for-aiding-palestinian-militants-dies-at-94.html?_r=0

    Safe inside the Mount Scopus Hotel, Jerusalem, age 29, the next morning (1/1981) I admit to being guilty of a "sin of omission" and did nothing to learn about what happened to the Palestinian guide.

    At approximately 10 am, the Byzantine Catholic priest and I were driven to the Dead Sea Scroll museum located in West Jerusalem. I'll never forget walking toward the museum and being approached by two (2) young Israeli soldiers.

    Weirdly, without even saying "hello," the two seized me took by the arms, and posed while an unknown person took a picture. Soon as the picture was taken, I asked the Byzantine Catholic priest to also take a snap shot of the three of us and he obliged. (NOTE: Later I'll try to get a cell phone picture that will display the arrested Palestinian tour guide and in addition, the peculiar picture of me with the two Israeli soldiers, nearby the Dead Sea scroll museum)

    To conclude, Chris, while in Jerusalem, the American hostages were released by Iran. Months later, President Anwar Satat was assassinated! My memories from time spent in the Middle East are FRESH. This past Christmas Eve 2016, I attended services at St. Joseph's Melkite Church, Cabrini Avenue, with friend Lindy Morelli, a Carmelite Nun/Coordinator of Lighthouse. Lindy is blind since birth. So you know, Lindy Morelli shares my concerns for Palestinians and all others who are "put upon" and as you please, her web site is available.

    Post scriptum: Not to try and exaggerate this experience, but I am hoping either iffen or Sam Shama chimes in here. I like when people freely speak their minds on the U.S./Israel "special" relationship because time is running out for such luxury)
    , @Chuck Orloski
    Chris,

    Attached below are "Brownie automatic" photos (1-page) which correspond to my January 1981 journey to the Middle East and comment # 187.

    file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Orloski/LOCALS~1/Temp/20170106_114002-1.jpg

    Top left is a camel & me in front of Great Pyramid, Giza.

    Top right is Masada & Dead Sea in background.

    Bottom left is Palestinian tour guide at Nablus.

    Bottom right is the tour guide at Capernaum.

    The final pic displays the 2-Israeli soldiers (and me) nearby West Jerusalem-based Dead Sea Scroll Museum museum. To reiterate, the 2-soldiers just took me by the arm and someone unknown took the snapshot. The available one -- taken by companion, a Byzantine Catholic priest -- shows me less befuddled and smiling!

    file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Orloski/LOCALS~1/Temp/20170106_114002-1.jpg
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  • @Astuteobservor II
    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything :) like some are trying to go for that route. I guess that was how she earned all the msm support during her run.

    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything like some are trying to go for that route.

    Wait, what happened? Who did what now? As usual… I’m confused :)

    Hey… wait a second… AstuteObservor 2 are you the poster previously known as AstuteConfusor 1? I KNEW IT! Well played, sir. Well played. ;)

    My mistake. I think I may have misconstrued Ji’s statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn’t for that reason. Looking back on it I THINK that Ji is saying that the US “elite” are using Israel, but I should clarify my position if Ji is because I believe the opposite. Israel is using the US “elite”, and the Global “elite” are using Israel. This macro vs. micro view of the distinction between the Global and American “elite” is one that is extremely important.

    The Central Bankster Global “elite” don’t care about Israel or the US or our “elite”. They use us ALL as pawns on their grand chessboard. They already control the world by controlling the global money supply but at this point all they care about is consolidating their power. Their endgame for all the chaos they’ve been causing is Global Governance. That’s all that One World Government is, a consolidation of power. I believe that Israel is going to be used to set off WW3. The Global “elite” don’t even live in Israel. They are headquartered in Switzerland where there are nice big alp mountains to hide themselves and their plunder under when the proverbial shit hits the fan.

    With all that being said of my THEORY about them hiding in the Alps and that Israel will be used as the spark for WW3, the FACT remains that Zionism is strangling this country. I believe that breaking the chain that Israel holds over the US should be the immediate priority due to the lives being lost in these wars for Israel. The next step, freeing our chains from the Central Banks… if there’s still time and that is even possible at this point.

    It seems that in my misunderstanding of Ji, I’ve in turn been misunderstood. Hope that I’ve clarified my self-muddied position. :)

    Oh, lawd, please don’t let me be misunderstood

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    I think I may have misconstrued Ji’s statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn’t for that reason.
     
    The point I was trying to make is that having a powerful organization (i.e. the Teamsters) is no guarantee that the establishment is going to kiss your ass. If you're useful to them, they'll glorify you anyway (a with the afghan mujahideen in the 1980s), and if you're a threat to them, they'll destroy you no matter how powerful your lobby is (as with the trade unions).
    , @Astuteobservor II
    hahaha :P my theory is that the global "elite" is no different than the us "elite" or the jewish "elite". they are interchangeable. especially the us/jewish "elite". all three are just factions of the same "elite" group? that has to be it. they are all getting something out of it. jewish "elites" are the ones with the most obvious perk, they are given free reign when it comes to land grabbing, in 2017 no less :) it is too visible and catching alot of flak.

    fyi, I think my previous comment actually goes rather well with your last comment :) you were saying jewish power is as powerful as ever, while I supported that notion :) 2 negatives makes a positive! :P
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  • It’s true that Zionism is the same thing as 18-19th century European settler-colonialism in North America.

    The difference is that this is the 21th century now. Once upon a time, cannibalism was commonly practiced by humans, but we don’t do it anymore. Some things that were considered normal then, are completely unacceptable now. Slavery, for example. And settler-colonialism is one of these unacceptable things. The period of colonialism ended, somewhere in the mid-20th century. It’s unacceptable, end of story.

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    Mid 20th century would be about 1950. (I am not a math whiz.)

    the eventual acceptance of the Seventeen Point Agreement by the Government of Tibet under Chinese pressure in October 1951.[1] The Government of Tibet and Tibetan social structure remained in place in the TAR under the authority of China until the 1959 Tibetan uprising, when the Dalai Lama fled into exile and after which the Government of Tibet was dissolved.
     
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  • @Aaron Aarons
    Again, I must refute the claim that I have any desire to rationalize Israel’s contemporary criminality. Rather, I am answering the question raised by this article by pointing out the reasons for rejecting loyalty to either the United States or Israel.

    And while the United States has made some moves towards "coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged", most of the population that is heir to their genocide* still acts like it has virtually exclusive rights not only to the political entity called "the United States" but to the land that that entity occupies! Thus U.S. nationalists don't hesitate to insist, by force, that Native Americans from Central America and Mexico have no rights to be on the land occupied by the United States without the permission, usually refused, of the settler population.

    * We are talking here of genocide by physical annihilation, not by largely-voluntary assimilation, as in so-called "white genocide".

    I was under the impression that native Americans have the same right to one vote as other Americans do. Do I have that wrong?

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  • @anonymous
    "hypocrisy"

    The white race has proven to be the greatest hypocrites this world has ever seen.

    And, who needs the sympathy of hypocrites.

    “And, who needs the sympathy of hypocrites.”

    But you left out the bit about still needing the billions and the blood of the needlessly sacrificed youth.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Hi Chuck,
    Yeah, Pallywood does a good job in producing these. Here is one for you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdHJlzsnvfk


    Best

    Sam,

    Yes — I even liked the music provided by “Pallywood.”

    I’ll share a true story on my January 1981 tour of the Middle East, including Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, and Israel, which upon return I wrote quite a comprehensive paper and received 3-undergraduate credits at University of Scranton.

    After my departure from coastal cities Haifa and Caesarea, I was provided with a Palestinian gentleman as tour guide. Riding in a Mercedes Benz, and along with an Ohio-born Byzantine Catholic priest, the Palestinian drove us to Jaffa, Nablus, and Bethlehem. Very learned and eager to talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the tour guide provided me with an alternative (non-Zionist) introduction to the steamy political situation.

    (Note Sam I keep photos of the Palestinian guide while at the Jaffa-based Franciscan Church of Peter at Nablus “Jacob’s Well,” and at the small door to Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity. Had I scan ability with my desktop, I’d do so and provide you with the pictures)

    At any rate, after spending two days in the Old City of Jerusalem, the tour guide drove the priest and I down the amazing highway leading to the Dead Sea. First stop Masada!

    We rode the lift to Masada peak, and besides the obvious ancient encampments, the first thing I saw was Israeli officers being “sworn in” beneath Israel’s flag. Watching this stirring event, the tour guide nudged me and said, “The Israeli’s do this as ritual & take a vow that there will never be another successful conqueror.” Quite impressive!

    Time passed as I walked around the site and after approximately four (4) anxious hours, I realized that the Palestinian guide was MISSING. Very weird, I felt like an ancient Roman soldier who searched Masada’s grounds to find only one “living” Zealot.

    Perhaps you might know, Sam Shama, the Masada site (at the time) was not very tourist friendly, like for example, the Civil War museum and refreshment perks available at Gettysburg. Frankly, I had to inquire around for a simple place to take a pee-pee.

    Late afternoon, I was approached by two men (plain clothes) who formally apologized for the inconvenience and informed me that the planned visit to Jericho had to be cancelled! Confused as shit, but tolerably understanding, I asked, “What happened to my tour guide… did he become ill?”

    “No. Your guide was arrested and taken back to Jerusalem.”

    “Arrested? Uh, what did he do? He did such a good job!”

    “Never you mind, the guide made trouble. So just follow us and we’ll take you back to the Mount Scopus Hotel. A new tour guide will be assigned to take you to West Jerusalem tomorrow and you can visit our Dead Sea scroll museum.”

    W.T.F. ?

    Strange episode, eh, Sam Shama? And now here at Unz Review, a Byzantine Catholic and a Jew opines about Judawood and Pallywood.

    Wish you well and thanks for the talk.

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    Interesting story, Chuck. Sounds just like a story from the Soviet Union !

    Did you try to find out what happened to your guide? Might not have cost you too much, but it would sure have helped your guide.
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  • @Mikhailovich
    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: "Assad must go". They say Israel profited from the devastation of Syria, Iraq etc., but who decided to start all those criminal wars? Who bombed peaceful and prosperous country Libya? And what for?

    it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.

    Not really of major importance, any Jew will do when all you want to do is hate dem Jews.

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    Lot of money and efforts invested in the hatred. And that is not only about Jews. The strategy of the Elites of the West is to divide the people and make them hate each other, so they would be able to manipulate all of them and make meanwhile even more money.
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  • @Anon
    Wishful thinking. Israel can just nuke the Arabs when they get tired of kicking them around. Not that this will happen anytime soon.

    My hunch is that the job will be done with genetically engineered, Arab-selective bacteriological weapons. Israel has researched these for decades. If the right technology was available, manufacturing a cover story would be the easy part..

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    • Replies: @Alden
    The Israelis need the bloodthirsty Arabs as an enemy. The entire point of Israel is to live off the tax empt donations of the American Jews and the goyishe kopf American taxpayer.

    Without the bloodthirsty Arabs threatening God's chosen the need to give and give and give to Israel would stop.

    And they might have to go to work at something other than fundraising.
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  • @Anon-og
    An insightful I came upon a few days ago

    A Cautionary Tale

    Modern Israel is simply a re-incarnation of the Crusader kingdoms. It is an invasion from the West, mainly Europe, supported by the West, to establish a religious-based government in the area. The first time around, it was Roman Catholic, this time, it is Jewish, but the dynamic is the same.
    The Crusader kingdoms lasted a couple of hundred years, which is long, measured against the span of a single human life, but rather short, considering the whole sweep of history. Those Crusader kingdoms, like modern Israel, could only be established, and continue to survive, so long as their Western base (at that time, Europe) continued to provide support.
    Given the ups and downs that all great empires experience, it is only a matter of time before Israel's sponsors and benefactors in the West (this time, it's America), are distracted by some other problem, whether it's a war, a depression, or some other difficulty, and will be unable, or unwilling to maintain support. It is also just a matter of time before the Muslim world has another of it's resurgences. It has happened before, including the original period of the spread of Islam, the age of Saladin, (when the Crusader kingdoms were wiped out), and during the heyday of the Ottomans.
    When those conditions come together, modern Israel, as we know it, will disappear. That is not to say, however that the population of Israel will disappear. There, are, after all, Maronite Christians still living in Lebanon, and elsewhere in the Middle East, including present day Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. There are even a few Assyrians in the region, even though their empire collapsed a couple of millenia ago.
    The fate of the Jewish people in Israel, as opposed to the Jewish state, itself, will depend upon how Israelis treat the majority population of the Middle East. If the Israelis act humanely and fairly, they will most likely be living there, raising their families, and practicing their culture, long after the present Israeli regime collapses, just as they did in many Middle Eastern countries for centuries, prior to 1948.
    But the long term danger is that during their present Crusader kingdom phase; the Israelis will act so badly, will develop such a reputation, and will be hated so much, as a result of their actions, that when Israel's survival conditions no longer exist (i.e., U.S. support); and when a new Saladin emerges, they will be thrown out of the Middle East, entirely.
    Israel wins short-term tactical victories, but is making a huge strategic blunder, with it's present policies. The people of Gaza, and Jenin, and Hebron, are going to remember what has happened to them for generations. They will probably build museums to keep the memorabilia of their suffering, and they will teach their children to say: (in the ultimate irony) "Never again".
    Call it Kharma, or simply say: "what goes around, comes around".

    Wishful thinking. Israel can just nuke the Arabs when they get tired of kicking them around. Not that this will happen anytime soon.

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    My hunch is that the job will be done with genetically engineered, Arab-selective bacteriological weapons. Israel has researched these for decades. If the right technology was available, manufacturing a cover story would be the easy part..
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  • @RobinG
    Embrace the Pain!!

    Whatever you think of Max (btw, his acknowledgement that the Syrian White Helmets are not impartial humanists is a good step) this short video from 2007 is priceless. Laugh, cry, grimace, but stick around for the final ecstatic dance. [And yes, Sam, I did protest a CUFI conference with a sign saying YOUR SUPPORT FOR JOHN HAGEE IS YOUR TICKET STRAIGHT TO HELL.]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
    Rapture Ready: The Christians United for Israel Tour

    excellent video, Robin, thanks – the word “bovine” comes to mind.
    Who keeps the leash on these morons ? They can’t be let loose on their own; somewhere in the organization there must be a connection to the mother ship which filters their waywardness so it’s always in sync with the main message.

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  • @Mikhailovich
    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: "Assad must go". They say Israel profited from the devastation of Syria, Iraq etc., but who decided to start all those criminal wars? Who bombed peaceful and prosperous country Libya? And what for?

    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.

    Of course not. He’s fixated on Iran. In fact, he may have a case of palilalia with regard to the word, “Iran.”

    Crying “wolf,” again. Netanyahu is on record as early as 1992 claiming that Iran was “close” to having a nuke.

    Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning ~25 years ago.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/20/1992-breaking-news-netanyahu-says-iran-close-to-nuclear-weapon/

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    • Replies: @Mikhailovich
    The conflict between Israel and Muslims is complicated. Both sides have strong arguments. They need an honest broker who would be interested in peace. But first US should leave them in peace.
    I wonder what you would say about Iraq - Iran war in 1980th which did cost a couple of millions of lives. Guess who organized it. And who supplied Hussein with weapons?
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  • @Aaron Aarons
    Again, I must refute the claim that I have any desire to rationalize Israel’s contemporary criminality. Rather, I am answering the question raised by this article by pointing out the reasons for rejecting loyalty to either the United States or Israel.

    And while the United States has made some moves towards "coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged", most of the population that is heir to their genocide* still acts like it has virtually exclusive rights not only to the political entity called "the United States" but to the land that that entity occupies! Thus U.S. nationalists don't hesitate to insist, by force, that Native Americans from Central America and Mexico have no rights to be on the land occupied by the United States without the permission, usually refused, of the settler population.

    * We are talking here of genocide by physical annihilation, not by largely-voluntary assimilation, as in so-called "white genocide".

    most of the population that is heir to their genocide

    Would that the son bore sins of the father … Such an argument may be made of those who continue to rationalize those sins. Comparing contemporary Americans against today’s zionists, it’s rather easy to demonstrate generational continuity of conviction among the latter of the two. More difficult to do so among the former.

    Thus U.S. nationalists don’t hesitate to insist, by force, that Native Americans from Central America and Mexico have no rights to be on the land occupied by the United States without the permission, usually refused, of the settler population.

    An unfortunate reality with which at least half of the American population disagrees.

    As for the racist dispositions of Israelis, the vast majority have them. Moreover, their effects are currently far more overwhelming and devastating than those which you ascribe to America’s treatment of Natives.

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  • Wait ’til son in law Jared gets into the White House then you’ll see the real action. Sit’s on the board Director’s of th American Friends of the IDF and family big on funding for occupied land

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  • @Mikhailovich
    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: "Assad must go". They say Israel profited from the devastation of Syria, Iraq etc., but who decided to start all those criminal wars? Who bombed peaceful and prosperous country Libya? And what for?

    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.

    Technically you’re right. Netanyahu shouted “Saddam must go.” It was Sharon who shouted “Assad must go.”

    [MORE]

    Gunning for Syria

    Israeli leaders did not push the Bush administration to put the screws on Syria before March 2003; they were too busy pushing for war against Iraq. But once Baghdad fell in mid-April, Sharon and his lieutenants began urging Washington to target Damascus. On April 16, for example, Sharon and Shaul Mofaz, his defense minister, gave high-profile interviews in different Israeli newspapers. Sharon, in Yedioth Ahronoth, called for the United States to put “very heavy” pressure on Syria. Mofaz told Ma’ariv, “We have a long list of issues that we are thinking of demanding of the Syrians, and it is appropriate that it should be done through the Americans.” Sharon’s national security adviser, Ephraim Halevy, told a WINEP audience that it was now important for the United States to get rough with Syria. The Washington Post reported that Israel was “fueling the campaign” against Syria by feeding the United States intelligence reports about the actions of President Bashar al-Asad.

    Prominent members of the lobby made the same arguments after Baghdad fell. Wolfowitz declared, “There has got to be regime change in Syria.” Richard Perle told a journalist, “We could deliver a short message, a two-word message [to other hostile regimes in the Middle East]: ‘You’re next’.” In early April, WINEP released a bipartisan report stating that Syria “should not miss the message that countries that pursue Saddam’s reckless, irresponsible and defiant behavior could end up sharing his fate.” On April 15, Yossi Klein Halevi wrote a piece in The Los Angeles Times entitled “Next, Turn the Screws on Syria.” The following day, Zev Chafets wrote an article for the New York Daily News entitled “Terror-Friendly Syria Needs a Change, Too.” Not to be outdone, Lawrence Kaplan wrote in The New Republic on April 21 that Syrian leader Asad was a serious threat to America.

    Back on Capitol Hill, Congressman Eliot Engel (D-NY) had reintroduced the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act on April 12. It threatened sanctions against Syria if it did not withdraw from Lebanon, give up its WMD and stop supporting terrorism. It also called for Syria and Lebanon to take concrete steps to make peace with Israel. This legislation was strongly endorsed by the lobby — especially AIPAC — and “framed,” according to the Jewish Telegraph Agency, “by some of Israel’s best friends in Congress.” It had been on the back burner for some time, largely because the Bush administration had little enthusiasm for it. But the anti-Syrian act passed overwhelmingly (398-4 in the House; 89-4 in the Senate), and Bush signed it into law on December 12, 2003.

    Yet the Bush administration was still divided about the wisdom of targeting Syria at that time. Although the neoconservatives were eager to pick a fight with Damascus, the CIA and the State Department were opposed. Even after Bush signed the new law, he emphasized that he would go slowly in implementing it.

    Bush’s ambivalence is understandable. First, the Syrian government had been providing the United States with important intelligence about al-Qaeda since 9/11 and had also warned Washington about a planned terrorist attack in the Gulf.

    Syria had also given CIA interrogators access to Mohammed Zammar, the alleged recruiter of some of the 9/11 hijackers. Targeting the Asad regime would jeopardize these valuable connections and thus undermine the larger war on terrorism.

    Second, Syria was not on bad terms with Washington before the Iraq War (it had even voted for U.N. Resolution 1441), and it was no threat to the United States. Playing hardball with Syria would make the United States look like a bully with an insatiable appetite for beating up Arab states. Finally, putting Syria on the American hit list would give Damascus a powerful incentive to cause trouble in Iraq. Even if one wanted to pressure Syria, it made good sense to finish the job in Iraq first.

    Yet Congress insisted on putting the screws to Damascus, largely in response to pressure from Israeli officials and pro-Israel groups like AIPAC. If there were no lobby, there would have been no Syria Accountability Act, and U.S. policy toward Damascus would have been more in line with the U.S. national interest.

    http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

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    Israel more or less neutral as far as I can see, while US with the enthusiastic support of all other NATO countries, massacres Arabs every day in the last quarter of century. When they don't bomb them - they kill them by sanctions.
    If The West wanted peace - they would have it long time ago.
    And this rabid Russo-phobia? Where it comes from? Israel? Israel doesn't even participate in anti-Russian sanctions.
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  • @Chuck Orloski
    Sam Shama,

    No doubt, you'd find it intriguing by interacting with "groups" identified in the You Tube video, below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_lNVJqaCMg

    I'd wager that quite a number of evangelical physicists and mathematicians already know about the Christian Sandals (remaining) on-the-Ground, in Occupied Palestine.

    Thank you, wish you well!

    Hi Chuck,
    Yeah, Pallywood does a good job in producing these. Here is one for you:

    Best

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    Sam,

    Yes -- I even liked the music provided by "Pallywood."

    I'll share a true story on my January 1981 tour of the Middle East, including Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, and Israel, which upon return I wrote quite a comprehensive paper and received 3-undergraduate credits at University of Scranton.

    After my departure from coastal cities Haifa and Caesarea, I was provided with a Palestinian gentleman as tour guide. Riding in a Mercedes Benz, and along with an Ohio-born Byzantine Catholic priest, the Palestinian drove us to Jaffa, Nablus, and Bethlehem. Very learned and eager to talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the tour guide provided me with an alternative (non-Zionist) introduction to the steamy political situation.

    (Note Sam I keep photos of the Palestinian guide while at the Jaffa-based Franciscan Church of Peter at Nablus "Jacob's Well," and at the small door to Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity. Had I scan ability with my desktop, I'd do so and provide you with the pictures)

    At any rate, after spending two days in the Old City of Jerusalem, the tour guide drove the priest and I down the amazing highway leading to the Dead Sea. First stop Masada!

    We rode the lift to Masada peak, and besides the obvious ancient encampments, the first thing I saw was Israeli officers being "sworn in" beneath Israel's flag. Watching this stirring event, the tour guide nudged me and said, "The Israeli's do this as ritual & take a vow that there will never be another successful conqueror." Quite impressive!

    Time passed as I walked around the site and after approximately four (4) anxious hours, I realized that the Palestinian guide was MISSING. Very weird, I felt like an ancient Roman soldier who searched Masada's grounds to find only one "living" Zealot.

    Perhaps you might know, Sam Shama, the Masada site (at the time) was not very tourist friendly, like for example, the Civil War museum and refreshment perks available at Gettysburg. Frankly, I had to inquire around for a simple place to take a pee-pee.

    Late afternoon, I was approached by two men (plain clothes) who formally apologized for the inconvenience and informed me that the planned visit to Jericho had to be cancelled! Confused as shit, but tolerably understanding, I asked, "What happened to my tour guide... did he become ill?"

    "No. Your guide was arrested and taken back to Jerusalem."

    "Arrested? Uh, what did he do? He did such a good job!"

    "Never you mind, the guide made trouble. So just follow us and we'll take you back to the Mount Scopus Hotel. A new tour guide will be assigned to take you to West Jerusalem tomorrow and you can visit our Dead Sea scroll museum."

    W.T.F. ?

    Strange episode, eh, Sam Shama? And now here at Unz Review, a Byzantine Catholic and a Jew opines about Judawood and Pallywood.

    Wish you well and thanks for the talk.
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  • @n230099

    "...and it comes so late because Obama wasted his entire presidency..."
     
    LOL!! And yet still a God to some. He was supposed to get the U.S. out of the region. Now the trail he and the war criminals Bush, Rumsfeld, Clinton, Kerry, Rice and Power leave is lined with more dead civilians than have died on either side in Palestine and Israel since 48. Israeli/Palestinian issues are not without some significance but pale in the scope of the war crimes of the U.S in the past 16 years. Millions dead and all we hear is 'f'n Jews'....

    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”. They say Israel profited from the devastation of Syria, Iraq etc., but who decided to start all those criminal wars? Who bombed peaceful and prosperous country Libya? And what for?

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    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.
     
    Technically you're right. Netanyahu shouted "Saddam must go." It was Sharon who shouted "Assad must go."


    Gunning for Syria

    Israeli leaders did not push the Bush administration to put the screws on Syria before March 2003; they were too busy pushing for war against Iraq. But once Baghdad fell in mid-April, Sharon and his lieutenants began urging Washington to target Damascus. On April 16, for example, Sharon and Shaul Mofaz, his defense minister, gave high-profile interviews in different Israeli newspapers. Sharon, in Yedioth Ahronoth, called for the United States to put "very heavy" pressure on Syria. Mofaz told Ma'ariv, "We have a long list of issues that we are thinking of demanding of the Syrians, and it is appropriate that it should be done through the Americans." Sharon's national security adviser, Ephraim Halevy, told a WINEP audience that it was now important for the United States to get rough with Syria. The Washington Post reported that Israel was "fueling the campaign" against Syria by feeding the United States intelligence reports about the actions of President Bashar al-Asad.

    Prominent members of the lobby made the same arguments after Baghdad fell. Wolfowitz declared, "There has got to be regime change in Syria." Richard Perle told a journalist, "We could deliver a short message, a two-word message [to other hostile regimes in the Middle East]: 'You're next'." In early April, WINEP released a bipartisan report stating that Syria "should not miss the message that countries that pursue Saddam's reckless, irresponsible and defiant behavior could end up sharing his fate." On April 15, Yossi Klein Halevi wrote a piece in The Los Angeles Times entitled "Next, Turn the Screws on Syria." The following day, Zev Chafets wrote an article for the New York Daily News entitled "Terror-Friendly Syria Needs a Change, Too." Not to be outdone, Lawrence Kaplan wrote in The New Republic on April 21 that Syrian leader Asad was a serious threat to America.

    Back on Capitol Hill, Congressman Eliot Engel (D-NY) had reintroduced the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act on April 12. It threatened sanctions against Syria if it did not withdraw from Lebanon, give up its WMD and stop supporting terrorism. It also called for Syria and Lebanon to take concrete steps to make peace with Israel. This legislation was strongly endorsed by the lobby — especially AIPAC — and "framed," according to the Jewish Telegraph Agency, "by some of Israel's best friends in Congress." It had been on the back burner for some time, largely because the Bush administration had little enthusiasm for it. But the anti-Syrian act passed overwhelmingly (398-4 in the House; 89-4 in the Senate), and Bush signed it into law on December 12, 2003.

    Yet the Bush administration was still divided about the wisdom of targeting Syria at that time. Although the neoconservatives were eager to pick a fight with Damascus, the CIA and the State Department were opposed. Even after Bush signed the new law, he emphasized that he would go slowly in implementing it.

    Bush's ambivalence is understandable. First, the Syrian government had been providing the United States with important intelligence about al-Qaeda since 9/11 and had also warned Washington about a planned terrorist attack in the Gulf.

    Syria had also given CIA interrogators access to Mohammed Zammar, the alleged recruiter of some of the 9/11 hijackers. Targeting the Asad regime would jeopardize these valuable connections and thus undermine the larger war on terrorism.

    Second, Syria was not on bad terms with Washington before the Iraq War (it had even voted for U.N. Resolution 1441), and it was no threat to the United States. Playing hardball with Syria would make the United States look like a bully with an insatiable appetite for beating up Arab states. Finally, putting Syria on the American hit list would give Damascus a powerful incentive to cause trouble in Iraq. Even if one wanted to pressure Syria, it made good sense to finish the job in Iraq first.

    Yet Congress insisted on putting the screws to Damascus, largely in response to pressure from Israeli officials and pro-Israel groups like AIPAC. If there were no lobby, there would have been no Syria Accountability Act, and U.S. policy toward Damascus would have been more in line with the U.S. national interest.

    http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

     

    , @jacques sheete

    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.
     
    Of course not. He's fixated on Iran. In fact, he may have a case of palilalia with regard to the word, "Iran."

    Crying “wolf,” again. Netanyahu is on record as early as 1992 claiming that Iran was “close” to having a nuke.

    Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning ~25 years ago.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/20/1992-breaking-news-netanyahu-says-iran-close-to-nuclear-weapon/

     

    , @iffen
    it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.

    Not really of major importance, any Jew will do when all you want to do is hate dem Jews.
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  • @Sam Shama
    Hi Robin:
    I persevered till the very end and was rewarded with "Yerushalayim shel zahav, ve shel nekhoshet ve shel or, halo lekol shirayikh ani kinor"

    :-) Thank you!

    Look, I have a number of evangelical friends, and they are not crazy nor stupid. Far from it; many of them are very accomplished [including physicists, mathematicians etc] have a very nuanced reading of the world today: the role of religion, the meaning of rapture and the eschatology involved; it does NOT involve a nuclear armageddon as many misguided people seem to think [like that Jewish bloke in the video] . Of course, they have in their ranks, the loons who believe other religions, [Islam, mostly], to be the club of Satan, a common accusation made by and against any and all competing religions, Judaism rather not spared of that distinction by its detractors.

    I find interacting with groups like these intriguing, that's all.

    Sam Shama,

    No doubt, you’d find it intriguing by interacting with “groups” identified in the You Tube video, below.

    I’d wager that quite a number of evangelical physicists and mathematicians already know about the Christian Sandals (remaining) on-the-Ground, in Occupied Palestine.

    Thank you, wish you well!

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    Hi Chuck,
    Yeah, Pallywood does a good job in producing these. Here is one for you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdHJlzsnvfk


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  • @Aaron Aarons
    George Washington and his fellow European settler-colonists did to the indigenous people of North America what Jewish European settler-colonists did to the indigenous people of the Levant. (To be fair, though, the Zionists, if only for lack of opportunity, did not capture, import, and permanently enslave millions of people from another land.)

    It's noteworthy that both Zionists and Nazis invoked the "American" treatment of the indigenous population to justify their own crimes. As Israeli historian Benny Morris said back in 2004, “Even the great American democracy could not have been created without the annihilation of the Indians.”

    So invoking the settler-colonial nationalism of the slave owner and murdering land-stealer, George Washington, is something Zionists, not their opponents, can do honestly.

    So why don’t you go back to Russia or wherever your communist grandparents came from if you are so outraged about living in a country stolen from the Indians?

    Anyway, recent archeological discoveries shows that European Whites arrived on the east coast of America about 30,000 years ago, 15,000 years before the first evidence of Asian types arriving on the west coast.

    The only skeleton found on the west coast in Washington state happens to be a 9,000 year old Caucasian.

    The east coast Indians of Anerica and especially Canada all had legends that their ancestors came from across the sea, the Atlantic.
    Latest theory is that the Asians from the west coast eventually overwhelmed the Soultryean Caucasian people of the east coast.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Charlotte Allen
    Love all you Joo-obsessors coming out of the woodwork.

    I'm neither Disaspora-Jewish nor Evangelical Christian, and I'm behind Israel 100 percent. The problem in the Holy Land is this: two objects occupying--or claiming to occupy--the same space. That's impossible, so you have to pick one. I pick Israel. Israel is the West--and it's the way the West ought to be but isn't, at least so far in Europe: a bulwark against Islam, which is the real menace to Western civilization, not some crazy haredim in yarmulkes living out in the middle of nowhere. Israel stands up to Islam. We don't. At least till now (Trump). I don't care if everything you say about the Jews, the Jewish lobby, or whatever, is true. I stand for Israel, because I don't stand for the Dar al-Islam. Have any of you ever been to Israel? I have. Where would you rather live: Israel (a beautiful and prosperous country) or an Islamic hellhole (pick any Muslim country--hey, pick Turkey! See you at the next Istanbul nightclub!)?

    The settlements are Israel's way of saying: We won. It's what the victors in wars do. Want to have no settlements in your country? Try actually winning one of the three stupid wars plus God knows how many intifadas you've started with the aim of driving the Israelis to the sea. "International law"? You actually believe the U.N. ought to be running the world? What are you--a bunch of lefties?

    How sorry do I feel for the poor, poor Palestinians? Hey--not sorry at all! They've spent, what, six decades sitting on their behinds and whining when not 1) lobbing rockets at Israelis; 2) bombing school buses and restaurants; and 3) dancing in the streets over stuff like 9/11. Plus making life miserable for the few Christians left in the Holy Land. That alone puts me on the side of the Israelis.

    Yeah, yeah, most American Jews are irritating liberals, and I wish they'd cut it out. Especially the victimology stuff with the country clubs, since they're America's most successful ethnic group. And I don't buy neocon foreign policy, since there's no reason for Americans to be fighting wars and dying in them in the Mideast, period. Israel does an excellent job of furthering its own interests, such as staying in existence, and Bibi strikes me as an excellent behind-the-scenes power player--you know he's got lines into both Syria and Russia.

    If Israel gets attacked, I'm all for aiding Israel, but that hasn't happened yet, and probably won't--unless the Muslims would like to see even more settlements.

    And finally, I can't stand John Bolton's mustache. Neither can Trump, I'm told. Meanwhile, yay for Trump! When I think "quisling," I think Obama, not Trump--sorry.

    “…or an Islamic hellhole (pick any Muslim country–hey, pick Turkey!”

    When you dig at the root causes of who caused these “hellholes,” to be “hellholes,” you will find dirty, lily white hands.

    You do realise that primary punishment is reserved for the evil masterminds, who put their evil into motion, not the fools who actually pull the trigger.

    Muslims may be guilty of being foolish, but your side… boy!!

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  • @Junior

    I would really like to see some serious analysis of the US establishment support for Zionism.
     
    A great place to start is, one of the more recent examples of our treasonous politicians putting Israel interests above the interest of America, Hillary Clinton's Dec. 31, 2012 email while she was Secretary of State that was revealed by Wikileaks.

    “The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad.” - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

    US Department of State under case number F-2014-20439, Doc No. C05794498.

    http://yournewswire.com/clinton-email-we-must-destroy-syria-for-israel/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqgKMXwmO4c

    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything :) like some are trying to go for that route. I guess that was how she earned all the msm support during her run.

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    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything like some are trying to go for that route.
     
    Wait, what happened? Who did what now? As usual... I'm confused :)

    Hey... wait a second... AstuteObservor 2 are you the poster previously known as AstuteConfusor 1? I KNEW IT! Well played, sir. Well played. ;)

    My mistake. I think I may have misconstrued Ji's statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn't for that reason. Looking back on it I THINK that Ji is saying that the US "elite" are using Israel, but I should clarify my position if Ji is because I believe the opposite. Israel is using the US "elite", and the Global "elite" are using Israel. This macro vs. micro view of the distinction between the Global and American "elite" is one that is extremely important.

    The Central Bankster Global "elite" don't care about Israel or the US or our "elite". They use us ALL as pawns on their grand chessboard. They already control the world by controlling the global money supply but at this point all they care about is consolidating their power. Their endgame for all the chaos they've been causing is Global Governance. That's all that One World Government is, a consolidation of power. I believe that Israel is going to be used to set off WW3. The Global "elite" don't even live in Israel. They are headquartered in Switzerland where there are nice big alp mountains to hide themselves and their plunder under when the proverbial shit hits the fan.

    With all that being said of my THEORY about them hiding in the Alps and that Israel will be used as the spark for WW3, the FACT remains that Zionism is strangling this country. I believe that breaking the chain that Israel holds over the US should be the immediate priority due to the lives being lost in these wars for Israel. The next step, freeing our chains from the Central Banks... if there's still time and that is even possible at this point.

    It seems that in my misunderstanding of Ji, I've in turn been misunderstood. Hope that I've clarified my self-muddied position. :)

    Oh, lawd, please don't let me be misunderstood

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo
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  • @Mao Cheng Ji
    I would really like to see some serious analysis of the US establishment support for Zionism. But this piece is not it. The establishment, I believe, has no ethnic loyalties; it's only loyal to itself. And the idea that the usual suspects, the Dershowitzs, the Krauthammers, the AIPAKs, the ADLs are responsible for it, that doesn't sound convincing to me at all.

    The Teamsters used to be a powerful organization once too, and yet Hoffa was jailed and then disappeared.

    In the 1980s, the jihadists (in Afghanistan) were "the moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers" who could do no wrong, and yet they had no ethnic lobby to influence the US media, or money to bribe the US Congress. Then they became 'evildoers, hating us for our freedom'. But today, in an Orwellian twist, they (in Aleppo) are beautiful Saints who can do no wrong again.

    All this makes me thing that the Dershowitzs and Krauthammers are just foam on the surface. There have to be real, totally non-sentimental, non-ethnic, power-and-money interests makings Zionism useful for the US elite...

    I would really like to see some serious analysis of the US establishment support for Zionism.

    A great place to start is, one of the more recent examples of our treasonous politicians putting Israel interests above the interest of America, Hillary Clinton’s Dec. 31, 2012 email while she was Secretary of State that was revealed by Wikileaks.

    “The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad.” - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

    US Department of State under case number F-2014-20439, Doc No. C05794498.

    http://yournewswire.com/clinton-email-we-must-destroy-syria-for-israel/

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    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything :) like some are trying to go for that route. I guess that was how she earned all the msm support during her run.
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  • @Jeff Albertson
    The deficit is roughly one trillion per year. The budget of the MICC is roughly the same, and is almost entirely wasted, indeed damaging to America's actual interests. If we weren't borrowing the money to shower on the financial, defense and bogus "security" sectors of the economy, the remainder of equities (the real economy) would be a small fraction of what we have now, and the corporations would have to provide real services to voluntary consumers.

    The entirety of the war on terror is to provide an excuse to lock taxpayers into permanent, involuntary debt servitude and divert resources to the financial elite, who either (to be charitable) don't care about the resulting death and destruction, or more likely are quite pleased with it. The twin signatures of the neocon project are that the real goals are never stated, and all the expenses fall on someone else. Hillary summed it up nicely in her remarks about public and private truths; she spilled the Straussian beans. They are liars, thieves and murderers. God willing, Trump will Andrew Jackson their fat asses.

    ahh ok. basically making constant war for the sake of money funneling into the MIC. and the debt it incurs is to lock the public into debt servitude. that is how I understood your comment. is that correct?

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  • @pensword
    You appeal to a distant, shameful history in order to rationalize Israel's contemporary criminality. Native Americans' traditional worldview of ownership was vastly different from that of the white men who claimed "newfound" territory as their own. They did not consider land to have any particular owner. White men exploited this to their advantage, leaving the Natives little choice but to eventually assimilate a concept of land ownership originally alien to them. The mitigation of this conflict is not something of which we Americans should be proud, and it could stand some improvement, but most Native Americans aren't staking a claim to anything more than traditional burial or ceremonial terrain.

    Furthermore, Native American nations are recognized as sovereign jurisdictions under the aegis of American federal law. Israel does not recognize Palestinian sovereignty, and regularly interferes in the PA's political administration.

    But here's the central distinction: America is still coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged. Israel refuses even acknowledgment of its current dispossession and mistreatment.

    Big difference.

    Again, I must refute the claim that I have any desire to rationalize Israel’s contemporary criminality. Rather, I am answering the question raised by this article by pointing out the reasons for rejecting loyalty to either the United States or Israel.

    And while the United States has made some moves towards “coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged”, most of the population that is heir to their genocide* still acts like it has virtually exclusive rights not only to the political entity called “the United States” but to the land that that entity occupies! Thus U.S. nationalists don’t hesitate to insist, by force, that Native Americans from Central America and Mexico have no rights to be on the land occupied by the United States without the permission, usually refused, of the settler population.

    * We are talking here of genocide by physical annihilation, not by largely-voluntary assimilation, as in so-called “white genocide”.

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    most of the population that is heir to their genocide

    Would that the son bore sins of the father ... Such an argument may be made of those who continue to rationalize those sins. Comparing contemporary Americans against today's zionists, it's rather easy to demonstrate generational continuity of conviction among the latter of the two. More difficult to do so among the former.

    Thus U.S. nationalists don’t hesitate to insist, by force, that Native Americans from Central America and Mexico have no rights to be on the land occupied by the United States without the permission, usually refused, of the settler population.

    An unfortunate reality with which at least half of the American population disagrees.

    As for the racist dispositions of Israelis, the vast majority have them. Moreover, their effects are currently far more overwhelming and devastating than those which you ascribe to America's treatment of Natives.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    I was under the impression that native Americans have the same right to one vote as other Americans do. Do I have that wrong?
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  • @Sam Shama
    Hi Robin:
    I persevered till the very end and was rewarded with "Yerushalayim shel zahav, ve shel nekhoshet ve shel or, halo lekol shirayikh ani kinor"

    :-) Thank you!

    Look, I have a number of evangelical friends, and they are not crazy nor stupid. Far from it; many of them are very accomplished [including physicists, mathematicians etc] have a very nuanced reading of the world today: the role of religion, the meaning of rapture and the eschatology involved; it does NOT involve a nuclear armageddon as many misguided people seem to think [like that Jewish bloke in the video] . Of course, they have in their ranks, the loons who believe other religions, [Islam, mostly], to be the club of Satan, a common accusation made by and against any and all competing religions, Judaism rather not spared of that distinction by its detractors.

    I find interacting with groups like these intriguing, that's all.

    I found an Evangelical who said X shares the same discontinuity of thought as the I found a Jew who said Y.

    Evangelical and Jew are interchangeable with other terms just as X, Y and Z are interchangeable.

    Afterwards, the value to rational thought is zero.

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  • @RobinG
    Embrace the Pain!!

    Whatever you think of Max (btw, his acknowledgement that the Syrian White Helmets are not impartial humanists is a good step) this short video from 2007 is priceless. Laugh, cry, grimace, but stick around for the final ecstatic dance. [And yes, Sam, I did protest a CUFI conference with a sign saying YOUR SUPPORT FOR JOHN HAGEE IS YOUR TICKET STRAIGHT TO HELL.]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
    Rapture Ready: The Christians United for Israel Tour

    Hi Robin:
    I persevered till the very end and was rewarded with “Yerushalayim shel zahav, ve shel nekhoshet ve shel or, halo lekol shirayikh ani kinor
    :-) Thank you!

    Look, I have a number of evangelical friends, and they are not crazy nor stupid. Far from it; many of them are very accomplished [including physicists, mathematicians etc] have a very nuanced reading of the world today: the role of religion, the meaning of rapture and the eschatology involved; it does NOT involve a nuclear armageddon as many misguided people seem to think [like that Jewish bloke in the video] . Of course, they have in their ranks, the loons who believe other religions, [Islam, mostly], to be the club of Satan, a common accusation made by and against any and all competing religions, Judaism rather not spared of that distinction by its detractors.

    I find interacting with groups like these intriguing, that’s all.

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    I found an Evangelical who said X shares the same discontinuity of thought as the I found a Jew who said Y.

    Evangelical and Jew are interchangeable with other terms just as X, Y and Z are interchangeable.

    Afterwards, the value to rational thought is zero.
    , @Chuck Orloski
    Sam Shama,

    No doubt, you'd find it intriguing by interacting with "groups" identified in the You Tube video, below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_lNVJqaCMg

    I'd wager that quite a number of evangelical physicists and mathematicians already know about the Christian Sandals (remaining) on-the-Ground, in Occupied Palestine.

    Thank you, wish you well!
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  • @Mark Green
    We are in a crisis. And Trump--like the Hope and Change president who preceded him--is not going to alleviate, or even address, this conundrum. Why? Officially, it doesn't even exist.

    Mainstream opinion requires the denial of Jewish power. It's taboo.

    This unacknowledged mandate is why there is good reason to believe that 'America First' will be remembered primarily as a slogan; since to solve a problem, one must be free to talk about it. Openly.

    As for Trump's alleged 'America First' movement, well, one cannot serve two masters. Therefore, when push comes to shove, America's core political interests will have to wait. Supreme power enjoys supreme privilege. Trump understands this. After all, he's just an elected official.

    Incredibly, American civilization has been captured in a quiet, slow-motion, multi-faceted and near-bloodless coup. Few realize that it's even occurred. Its key operatives dominate our legislatures, our courts, our media, and our schools. We live in an All-Zion-All-the-Time universe. Hitler, Holocaust, Racism, Nativism, Terrorism and Bigotry are just some of the loaded pillars that elevate this cult and keep the counter-revolution nascent, if not still-born.

    America's dominant media deserves special credit for the efficacy of this extraordinary deception.

    Not only are media-numbed Americans subjected to a Zio-friendly propaganda storm 24/7, but dissident analysts like Giraldi will be forever marginalized for the sin of daring to tamper with the kosher narrative. Of course, censorship of this kind is entirely acceptable in PC America. After all, they're Nazis! 'Stop the hate!'

    End of story. End of conversation.

    The Children of Zion not only manage the megaphone but the taboos as well. This is privilege. This is power.

    Yes, Zionist hegemony in American life requires massive amounts of money. But finance is just one element in this complex and well-coordinated scheme. Those who shape our understanding of the past can steer our future. And this is where America's big, historical lessons come into play; chief among them: 'anti-Semitism'. Is it the West's last unpardonable sin?

    Stop the hate!

    Who cares that 220,000,000 million people died in state-initiated wars in the 20th century? That's a mere footnote now.

    Not all human tragedies are created equal.

    Thus the recent passage of the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act (along with similar, pending, Jewish-scripted legislation in Europe) gives nourishment to the Zionist-friendly war against Free Speech and independent political thought that is storming forward with little opposition.

    "Never forget!"

    An undeclared war is underway. Slowly, the noose is tightening. You are the enemy.

    they are not children of zion but they are satans spawn as Jesus described them…..John 8-44

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  • @Aaron Aarons
    George Washington and his fellow European settler-colonists did to the indigenous people of North America what Jewish European settler-colonists did to the indigenous people of the Levant. (To be fair, though, the Zionists, if only for lack of opportunity, did not capture, import, and permanently enslave millions of people from another land.)

    It's noteworthy that both Zionists and Nazis invoked the "American" treatment of the indigenous population to justify their own crimes. As Israeli historian Benny Morris said back in 2004, “Even the great American democracy could not have been created without the annihilation of the Indians.”

    So invoking the settler-colonial nationalism of the slave owner and murdering land-stealer, George Washington, is something Zionists, not their opponents, can do honestly.

    when the americans fought the Indians most of the time it was a fair fight until the end. America did not force the west to finance the war or did the indian wars were to lead to a world war. the americans did not site idiotic bible verses written by inbred rabbis saying god promised them the land . there is no comparison

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  • @Johnny Smoggins
    I have little sympathy for Palestinians either to be honest and I'd be happy if all Semites were back where they belong; in the Middle East, but hypocrisy has to be called out.

    I've noticed lately that this "America was stolen from the natives, so you can't say anything about Israel" argument has become more common so it has to be nipped in the bud.

    “hypocrisy”

    The white race has proven to be the greatest hypocrites this world has ever seen.

    And, who needs the sympathy of hypocrites.

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    "And, who needs the sympathy of hypocrites."

    But you left out the bit about still needing the billions and the blood of the needlessly sacrificed youth.
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  • @OilcanFloyd
    "I wonder what Mast thought he was accomplishing while kicking in doors in Afghanistan? Did he ever question why he was there? Now he is a congressman with nary a thought of anything contrary in his head. Kind of makes you sick."

    Nope. He lost two legs and an arm, and has apparently done no reflection at all. The combat vets that I have known aren't fond of war, and question the government's motives. Something is wrong with this man.

    well brian mast is certainly not a “demolition expert” unless that means blowing yourself up. at least he has paid for his crimes

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  • @jacques sheete
    Bolton is a Chenyesque wanker.

    Remaining expletives deleted.

    Bolton is captain kangaroo

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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @TTaylor
    Israel is the model country for how white people should behave if they want to be great again. White people got to the top by behaving like Israel is behaving at the present.

    Go Israel, I support Israel.

    Given what Israel has been doing, that is quite an indictment of criminality of your kind. If you think that is something to be proud of, you are too screwed to be salvaged.

    “White people got to the top by behaving like Israel is behaving at the present.”

    Since you sound like one of those alt-right white supremacist christians, I’ll say this… If your faith makes you believe that the One who created everything, actually created one race of man to be superior to another, then that proves the sheer moral and spiritual bankruptcy of your faith.

    It feels good that the likes of you are on the opposite side of mine.

    It proves that *we* are on to something true. Thank you for that.

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  • @Aaron Aarons
    Yes, Jews were heavily involved in the African slave trade. I make no excuses for that, nor for many other crimes that Jewish merchants and bankers have played a large part in. But what does that have to do with my objection to invoking the white settler nationalism of George Washington in supposed opposition to the white settler nationalism of the European Jewish settlers of Palestine?

    You appeal to a distant, shameful history in order to rationalize Israel’s contemporary criminality. Native Americans’ traditional worldview of ownership was vastly different from that of the white men who claimed “newfound” territory as their own. They did not consider land to have any particular owner. White men exploited this to their advantage, leaving the Natives little choice but to eventually assimilate a concept of land ownership originally alien to them. The mitigation of this conflict is not something of which we Americans should be proud, and it could stand some improvement, but most Native Americans aren’t staking a claim to anything more than traditional burial or ceremonial terrain.

    Furthermore, Native American nations are recognized as sovereign jurisdictions under the aegis of American federal law. Israel does not recognize Palestinian sovereignty, and regularly interferes in the PA’s political administration.

    But here’s the central distinction: America is still coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged. Israel refuses even acknowledgment of its current dispossession and mistreatment.

    Big difference.

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    Again, I must refute the claim that I have any desire to rationalize Israel’s contemporary criminality. Rather, I am answering the question raised by this article by pointing out the reasons for rejecting loyalty to either the United States or Israel.

    And while the United States has made some moves towards "coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged", most of the population that is heir to their genocide* still acts like it has virtually exclusive rights not only to the political entity called "the United States" but to the land that that entity occupies! Thus U.S. nationalists don't hesitate to insist, by force, that Native Americans from Central America and Mexico have no rights to be on the land occupied by the United States without the permission, usually refused, of the settler population.

    * We are talking here of genocide by physical annihilation, not by largely-voluntary assimilation, as in so-called "white genocide".
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  • @Charlotte Allen
    Love all you Joo-obsessors coming out of the woodwork.

    I'm neither Disaspora-Jewish nor Evangelical Christian, and I'm behind Israel 100 percent. The problem in the Holy Land is this: two objects occupying--or claiming to occupy--the same space. That's impossible, so you have to pick one. I pick Israel. Israel is the West--and it's the way the West ought to be but isn't, at least so far in Europe: a bulwark against Islam, which is the real menace to Western civilization, not some crazy haredim in yarmulkes living out in the middle of nowhere. Israel stands up to Islam. We don't. At least till now (Trump). I don't care if everything you say about the Jews, the Jewish lobby, or whatever, is true. I stand for Israel, because I don't stand for the Dar al-Islam. Have any of you ever been to Israel? I have. Where would you rather live: Israel (a beautiful and prosperous country) or an Islamic hellhole (pick any Muslim country--hey, pick Turkey! See you at the next Istanbul nightclub!)?

    The settlements are Israel's way of saying: We won. It's what the victors in wars do. Want to have no settlements in your country? Try actually winning one of the three stupid wars plus God knows how many intifadas you've started with the aim of driving the Israelis to the sea. "International law"? You actually believe the U.N. ought to be running the world? What are you--a bunch of lefties?

    How sorry do I feel for the poor, poor Palestinians? Hey--not sorry at all! They've spent, what, six decades sitting on their behinds and whining when not 1) lobbing rockets at Israelis; 2) bombing school buses and restaurants; and 3) dancing in the streets over stuff like 9/11. Plus making life miserable for the few Christians left in the Holy Land. That alone puts me on the side of the Israelis.

    Yeah, yeah, most American Jews are irritating liberals, and I wish they'd cut it out. Especially the victimology stuff with the country clubs, since they're America's most successful ethnic group. And I don't buy neocon foreign policy, since there's no reason for Americans to be fighting wars and dying in them in the Mideast, period. Israel does an excellent job of furthering its own interests, such as staying in existence, and Bibi strikes me as an excellent behind-the-scenes power player--you know he's got lines into both Syria and Russia.

    If Israel gets attacked, I'm all for aiding Israel, but that hasn't happened yet, and probably won't--unless the Muslims would like to see even more settlements.

    And finally, I can't stand John Bolton's mustache. Neither can Trump, I'm told. Meanwhile, yay for Trump! When I think "quisling," I think Obama, not Trump--sorry.

    “…a bulwark against Islam”

    Islam simply stands for complete submission to the One, Infinite & Unique God. Infinite & Unique connotes that He can’t be man-like, animal-like, or ghost-like. You understand? I suppose not.

    Heartless, diseased souls, the likes of you, who stands against that are necessarily standing with Satan.

    -

    I vaguely wonder how you will manage to cohabit a certain place, with the evil whose moustache you can’t stand… that too, for all eternity. But, I suppose that will be the very least of your torment.

    In anticipation of that just comeuppance, please allow me this intense feeling of advance schadenfreude.
    ;)

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    re the first cartoon, "Join the US Army, Fight for Israel"

    This morning C Span Washington Journal interviewed new members of US Congress.

    Among them was Brian Mast, a Republican who defeated Patrick Murphy in Florida's 18th district, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen's former district. https://www.c-span.org/video/?419267-3/interview-representativeelect-brian-mast-rfl

    Mast was a bomb detonations expert in US military who lost both legs and an arm in Afghanistan. Mast said he'd never thought about running for congress until he wound up at Walter Reed hospital; he said he had thought he'd spend his career doing what he loved -- "jumping out of airplanes and kicking in doors and roping out of helicopters." He said it was "very difficult for him to lose that purpose" he'd had in life.
    In the process of "finding another battlefield to fight on," many congressmen & staffers visited him.
    He eventually went to work for various US counterterrorism agencies in addition to
    "spending some time in the Israeli army . . . of which I'm very very proud. . . . I'm probably the only congressman who has been in the Israeli military . . .

    According to wikipedia, Mast attended Christian schools and identifies as a Christian; no denomination is mentioned.
    Whatever denomination it is, apparently their Jesus counsels:
    "Blessed are they who kick in doors, for they shall be called peacemakers;"
    and
    "Seek and ye shall find, kick and the door shall open . . ."

    Mast said he applied his military, mission-oriented training to preparing himself to function in congress. He moved seamlessly from military to counterterrorism,

    With the Israeli military he worked in a role that Mast identified as SAREL (?),
    "which allows individuals from around the world to work with the Israeli military . . . a program they rely on quite heavily to accomplish a lot of what they need to go on with their military, as they don't have nearly as large a military as the United States."

    (The closest I could find to "SAREL" was an Israeli medical and pharmaceutical research, development and production corporation,
    Israel’s largest private supplier under one roof of goods and services to healthcare and medical institutions.
    )

    I find it troublesome that the US military or associated agencies are so interwoven with Israeli state forces and institutions.

    In my assessment, such intense interrelationships violate George Washington's counsels in his Farewell Address, just as surely as Mast's attitudes invert the counsels of Christianity.

    The unity of Government, which constitutes you one people, is also now dear to you. It is justly so; for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquillity at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very Liberty, which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee, that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed, to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth; as this is the point in your political fortress against which the batteries of internal and external enemies will be most constantly and actively (though often covertly and insidiously) directed, it is of infinite moment, that you should properly estimate the immense value of your national Union to your collective and individual happiness; that you should cherish a cordial, habitual, and immovable attachment to it; accustoming yourselves to think and speak of it as of the Palladium of your political safety and prosperity; watching for its preservation with jealous anxiety; discountenancing whatever may suggest even a suspicion, that it can in any event be abandoned; and indignantly frowning upon the first dawning of every attempt to alienate any portion of our country from the rest, or to enfeeble the sacred ties which now link together the various parts.

    For this you have every inducement of sympathy and interest. Citizens, by birth or choice, of a common country, that country has a right to concentrate your affections. The name of american, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations.
     
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  • @Aaron Aarons
    Yes, Jews were heavily involved in the African slave trade. I make no excuses for that, nor for many other crimes that Jewish merchants and bankers have played a large part in. But what does that have to do with my objection to invoking the white settler nationalism of George Washington in supposed opposition to the white settler nationalism of the European Jewish settlers of Palestine?

    Only that one occurred prior to the concept of international laws and the other didn’t. How could you not know this?

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  • @Duglarri
    I've come to the conclusion that the annexation of the West Bank that people like Bolton have made inevitable will lead to a reckoning on values.

    The value is this: that all men are created equal. And here we have a state that says, no, in our state, some people are less than equal, and will always be so, and will always have lesser rights.

    We won't abide slavery. Will we abide this attenuated version of slavery?

    Zionism stands in opposition to core principle on which Western civilization is founded.

    Can a state like this be tolerated?

    It think the 14-0 vote with one abstention shows the answer. In the long run, no.

    “We won’t abide slavery. Will we abide this attenuated version of slavery.”

    On the day U.S.S. Liberty was attacked by Israelis, the successful fighter pilots might have boarded the sinking recon ship, and toss commemorative crates, labeled “U.S. justice,” overboard into Med Sea, and afterward deign the act as The Bolton Tea Party.

    Please consider looking Dr. William Pierce’s You Tube video (below) and you will more so appreciate web site “news” & comment exchanges available at The Unz Review?

    Sadly, Dugglarri, the nation of USrael has no choice but to “tolerate” Zionist injustice.

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  • @Johnny Smoggins
    This is a ridiculous, and all too common argument from Jews - the land of the U.S. was stolen from the natives so Americans can't say anything about Israel stealing Palestine from Palestinians.

    First of all, the native people of North America were literally living in the stone age when Whites showed up and their lives have been made immeasurably better thanks to the inventions and largesse of the White man. In contrast, Palestinians have done nothing but suffer under Israeli rule.

    Second, native North Americans are subsidized to the point of billions of dollars every year and receive every possible benefit from the government (and taxpaying Whites). Free health care, education and every form of affirmative action that's ever been dreamt up are all theirs for the taking. Tell us friend, does the Jewish state extend this to Palestinians as it does to Jews?

    Your first paragraph doesn’t apply to me, since I have always encouraged people I interact with to repudiate Israel along with its patron, the U.S..

    But the rest of what you write is arrogant, patronizing nonsense. On a technological level, the indigenous peoples of North America were living like Northern Europeans had been living a few hundred, or maybe even a few thousand, years earlier, but they were, for the most part, living decent lives. The main thing the white invaders did was to kill the overwhelming majority of those native people and force the survivors onto lands that could barely sustain life. And the settler population’s capitalists continue to ignore treaties and deny the indigenous survivors the rights to the wealth that is often discovered on their remaining land. Pay them for this wealth, and past stolen wealth, as white property owners would be paid, and the native peoples wouldn’t have any need fot all those programs you refer to. Largesse, my ass!

    But you know all that, don’t you?

    BTW, a disproportionate contribution to the inventions that whites generously bestowed upon the ghosts of those they exterminated was made by Jews, who are only, and then without acknowledgement, included as whites when it suits the needs of Christian white supremacists.

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    a disproportionate contribution to the inventions that whites generously bestowed upon the ghosts of those they exterminated was made by Jews
     
    Gee - what inventions were those?

    One of your tribe just claimed the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are Jew documents.

    Perhaps you can add to that also?

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Jew did contribute to WESTERN science. There is no Jew science - right!
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  • @Druid
    Sorry, but the Jews, not Zionism because it didn't exist, were in the slave trade up to their tonsils!

    Yes, Jews were heavily involved in the African slave trade. I make no excuses for that, nor for many other crimes that Jewish merchants and bankers have played a large part in. But what does that have to do with my objection to invoking the white settler nationalism of George Washington in supposed opposition to the white settler nationalism of the European Jewish settlers of Palestine?

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    Only that one occurred prior to the concept of international laws and the other didn't. How could you not know this?
    , @pensword
    You appeal to a distant, shameful history in order to rationalize Israel's contemporary criminality. Native Americans' traditional worldview of ownership was vastly different from that of the white men who claimed "newfound" territory as their own. They did not consider land to have any particular owner. White men exploited this to their advantage, leaving the Natives little choice but to eventually assimilate a concept of land ownership originally alien to them. The mitigation of this conflict is not something of which we Americans should be proud, and it could stand some improvement, but most Native Americans aren't staking a claim to anything more than traditional burial or ceremonial terrain.

    Furthermore, Native American nations are recognized as sovereign jurisdictions under the aegis of American federal law. Israel does not recognize Palestinian sovereignty, and regularly interferes in the PA's political administration.

    But here's the central distinction: America is still coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged. Israel refuses even acknowledgment of its current dispossession and mistreatment.

    Big difference.
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  • I’ve come to the conclusion that the annexation of the West Bank that people like Bolton have made inevitable will lead to a reckoning on values.

    The value is this: that all men are created equal. And here we have a state that says, no, in our state, some people are less than equal, and will always be so, and will always have lesser rights.

    We won’t abide slavery. Will we abide this attenuated version of slavery?

    Zionism stands in opposition to core principle on which Western civilization is founded.

    Can a state like this be tolerated?

    It think the 14-0 vote with one abstention shows the answer. In the long run, no.

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    "We won't abide slavery. Will we abide this attenuated version of slavery."

    On the day U.S.S. Liberty was attacked by Israelis, the successful fighter pilots might have boarded the sinking recon ship, and toss commemorative crates, labeled "U.S. justice," overboard into Med Sea, and afterward deign the act as The Bolton Tea Party.

    Please consider looking Dr. William Pierce's You Tube video (below) and you will more so appreciate web site "news" & comment exchanges available at The Unz Review?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdXj0d5_I6g&app=desktop

    Sadly, Dugglarri, the nation of USrael has no choice but to "tolerate" Zionist injustice.
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  • @jacques sheete
    Ineffable sickos.

    “WASHINGTON — “I’m not spreading propaganda,” George Stephanopoulos’ orthodox-nun sister vows, but Israeli soldiers last week “defecated” on the floors of a West Bank medical clinic they raided.
    They’re also looting Palestinians’ homes there, claims Sister Maria Stephanopoulos, a nun at the Convent of St. Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem.”

    www.wnd.com/2002/04/13678/

    Did someone mention shit?

    “[Israeli] Skunk truck spraying putrid liquid [sewage]all over residential homes in the village of Nabi Saleh.”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2013/01/israeli-occupied-palestine.html

    Vid

    Americans...Your tax dollars at work.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jR_SN3Jcg3g


    http://mondoweiss.net/2013/01/israeli-occupied-palestine.html

    The Zionists did that back in the 1940s to show their contempt for the Goyim, defined as unclean, filth, abomination 2 legged animal.

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  • @NoseytheDuke
    I know little about Sirhan Sirhan's real intentions but on the night of the murder of RFK he was used as a patsy.

    I post the story of the Sirhan family as an excellent illustration of what happened to just one of millions of Palestinians. And the Jews always claim that the Palestinians just fled their homes and refused to return.
    I know there are various theories about who killed both Kennedys. That the Israelis did those assassinations makes sense.
    But I like to post the story to illustrate what happened to just one harmless Christian family among millions of Paleatinians.
    The Old Testament bible thumpers go beserk because they think that only Muslims were driven out.

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  • @Paul C.
    Chris Bollyn did an analysis of who shot RFK.

    http://www.bollyn.com/political-assassinations/

    Given what we know now about staged events, it was most certainly not Sirhan Sirhan. He's just the "Palestinian" fall guy. It was revealed that his gun held 8 bullets yet 13 were found.

    The Kennedy's wanted AIPAC to be registered as a foreign agent, so Israel couldn't buy and control US politicians as they are today. With their assassinations, this never came to pass.

    I’ve read some of those Sirhan didn’t kill Kennedy books. They make a point, who knows? But I like to post what happened to the Sirhan family as an illustration of what the Jews did to just one upper middle class harmless Christian family.
    But the Palestinians are lucky compared to what the Jewish communists did in Russia and Eastern Europe
    I live near a big federal building. Every once a while the Palestinians have a demonstration. I always go. Useless of course.

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