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    The magazine Profile.ru in 2015 compiled a list of Russia's most subsidized regions. It went exactly as you'd expect. # Russian Region %dep. Majority Group 1 Ingushetia 85.0% Caucasian 2 Chechnya 81.4% Caucasian 3 Crimea 80.0% Russian 4 Tyva 77.1% Other Minority 5 Sevastopol 75.0% Russian 6 Altay 73.5% Russian 7 Dagestan 70.0% Caucasian 8...
  • […] они только на 70% зависят от федеральных трансфертов — в отличие от чечено-ингушских […]

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  • Russians feed the Caucasus which is filled with Muslims. This is suicidal.

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  • @Cyrano
    Ask your mother to breastfeed you, so you can sleep better, you retard.

    gay loser

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  • @gT
    Stop trying to disturb my nap, loser.

    Ask your mother to breastfeed you, so you can sleep better, you retard.

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    gay loser
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  • Stop trying to disturb my nap, loser.

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    Ask your mother to breastfeed you, so you can sleep better, you retard.
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  • @gT
    Shall do loser.

    Tell that to your mother. She’s a loser for polluting the earth with a scumbag like you.

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  • @Cyrano
    You are right. Reading requires brain. Go take a nap.

    Shall do loser.

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    Tell that to your mother. She's a loser for polluting the earth with a scumbag like you.
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  • @gT
    Nah, its Sunday and I'm too lazy to go and read up on the 1'st Balkan war. All I know is that Bulgaria always chooses the "opposite" side and the "opposite" side always loses.

    You are right. Reading requires brain. Go take a nap.

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    Shall do loser.
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  • @Cyrano
    They should send you to UN in some capacity. With your knowledge of the world affairs, you'll fix the world in one day - maybe even less.

    you’ll fix the world in one day

    What’s to fix? The world is what it is. All we can do is observe.

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  • @Cyrano
    All right, my mistake. Read then on the 1st Blakan war.

    The Bulgarians were stabbed in the back by the Serbs in the 1st Balkan war – thus resulting in the 2nd one – which wasn’t supposed to happen at all since the main objective – defeating Ottoman Turkey and chasing them out of the Balkans once and for all was achieved in the 1st Balkan war.

    I think that’s the biggest strategic mistake Serbia has ever made, ever – stabbing fellow Slavs in the back to make a third party make gains that they didn’t deserve at all (Greece). Bulgaria did the lion share of the fighting in the 1st Balkan war and was supposed to be awarded with certain territory as agreed with the Serbs – who broke the agreement.

    This has influenced Balkan politics to this day – why Bulgaria always choose to be an ally of Germany – because they always promised them that they’ll help them redress the injustice that they suffered in the 2nd Balkan war and regain the territory that they lost then and there. I personally also think that it was unforgivable the way the Serbs acted.

    Nah, its Sunday and I’m too lazy to go and read up on the 1′st Balkan war. All I know is that Bulgaria always chooses the “opposite” side and the “opposite” side always loses.

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    You are right. Reading requires brain. Go take a nap.
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  • @Mao Cheng Ji
    Hey, it's the Balkans. Everyone is stabbing everyone else. Or, rather, everyone is stabbing their immediate neighbors while declaring love and friendship towards everyone they don't have a common border with.

    They should send you to UN in some capacity. With your knowledge of the world affairs, you’ll fix the world in one day – maybe even less.

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    you’ll fix the world in one day
     
    What's to fix? The world is what it is. All we can do is observe.
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  • @gT
    Although I never heard about the Balkan wars before, it seems like Bulgaria was the one who stabbed their former allies from the 1st Balkan war, Serbia and Greece, in the back. And then everyone in the region seems to have climbed into Bulgaria.

    Taken straight from Wikipedia "The Second Balkan War was a conflict which broke out when Bulgaria, dissatisfied with its share of the spoils of the First Balkan War, attacked its former allies, Serbia and Greece, on 16 (O.S.)/29 June 1913. Serbian and Greek armies repulsed the Bulgarian offensive and counter-attacked, entering Bulgaria. With Bulgaria also having previously engaged in territorial disputes with Romania, this war provoked Romanian intervention against Bulgaria. The Ottoman Empire also took advantage of the situation to regain some lost territories from the previous war. "

    All right, my mistake. Read then on the 1st Blakan war.

    The Bulgarians were stabbed in the back by the Serbs in the 1st Balkan war – thus resulting in the 2nd one – which wasn’t supposed to happen at all since the main objective – defeating Ottoman Turkey and chasing them out of the Balkans once and for all was achieved in the 1st Balkan war.

    I think that’s the biggest strategic mistake Serbia has ever made, ever – stabbing fellow Slavs in the back to make a third party make gains that they didn’t deserve at all (Greece). Bulgaria did the lion share of the fighting in the 1st Balkan war and was supposed to be awarded with certain territory as agreed with the Serbs – who broke the agreement.

    This has influenced Balkan politics to this day – why Bulgaria always choose to be an ally of Germany – because they always promised them that they’ll help them redress the injustice that they suffered in the 2nd Balkan war and regain the territory that they lost then and there. I personally also think that it was unforgivable the way the Serbs acted.

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    Nah, its Sunday and I'm too lazy to go and read up on the 1'st Balkan war. All I know is that Bulgaria always chooses the "opposite" side and the "opposite" side always loses.
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  • Hey, it’s the Balkans. Everyone is stabbing everyone else. Or, rather, everyone is stabbing their immediate neighbors while declaring love and friendship towards everyone they don’t have a common border with.

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    They should send you to UN in some capacity. With your knowledge of the world affairs, you'll fix the world in one day - maybe even less.
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  • @Cyrano
    Your grasp of history is fascinating. Bulgaria didn't actively participate in NATO attack on Serbia, they only allowed their territory to be used by NATO during the attack, which is bad enough, but then again Bulgaria has a long history of grievances against Serbia dating to the 2nd Balkan war when the Serbs stabbed Bulgaria in the back. So again, I can't really blame Bulgaria for being hostile to Serbia.

    Although I never heard about the Balkan wars before, it seems like Bulgaria was the one who stabbed their former allies from the 1st Balkan war, Serbia and Greece, in the back. And then everyone in the region seems to have climbed into Bulgaria.

    Taken straight from Wikipedia “The Second Balkan War was a conflict which broke out when Bulgaria, dissatisfied with its share of the spoils of the First Balkan War, attacked its former allies, Serbia and Greece, on 16 (O.S.)/29 June 1913. Serbian and Greek armies repulsed the Bulgarian offensive and counter-attacked, entering Bulgaria. With Bulgaria also having previously engaged in territorial disputes with Romania, this war provoked Romanian intervention against Bulgaria. The Ottoman Empire also took advantage of the situation to regain some lost territories from the previous war. “

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    All right, my mistake. Read then on the 1st Blakan war.

    The Bulgarians were stabbed in the back by the Serbs in the 1st Balkan war – thus resulting in the 2nd one – which wasn’t supposed to happen at all since the main objective – defeating Ottoman Turkey and chasing them out of the Balkans once and for all was achieved in the 1st Balkan war.

    I think that’s the biggest strategic mistake Serbia has ever made, ever – stabbing fellow Slavs in the back to make a third party make gains that they didn’t deserve at all (Greece). Bulgaria did the lion share of the fighting in the 1st Balkan war and was supposed to be awarded with certain territory as agreed with the Serbs – who broke the agreement.

    This has influenced Balkan politics to this day – why Bulgaria always choose to be an ally of Germany – because they always promised them that they’ll help them redress the injustice that they suffered in the 2nd Balkan war and regain the territory that they lost then and there. I personally also think that it was unforgivable the way the Serbs acted.

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  • @gT
    You're welcome. And Bulgaria always seems to support the opposite side. The Nazi's during WWII and Nato during the Serbian war. Maybe not so smart.

    Your grasp of history is fascinating. Bulgaria didn’t actively participate in NATO attack on Serbia, they only allowed their territory to be used by NATO during the attack, which is bad enough, but then again Bulgaria has a long history of grievances against Serbia dating to the 2nd Balkan war when the Serbs stabbed Bulgaria in the back. So again, I can’t really blame Bulgaria for being hostile to Serbia.

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    Although I never heard about the Balkan wars before, it seems like Bulgaria was the one who stabbed their former allies from the 1st Balkan war, Serbia and Greece, in the back. And then everyone in the region seems to have climbed into Bulgaria.

    Taken straight from Wikipedia "The Second Balkan War was a conflict which broke out when Bulgaria, dissatisfied with its share of the spoils of the First Balkan War, attacked its former allies, Serbia and Greece, on 16 (O.S.)/29 June 1913. Serbian and Greek armies repulsed the Bulgarian offensive and counter-attacked, entering Bulgaria. With Bulgaria also having previously engaged in territorial disputes with Romania, this war provoked Romanian intervention against Bulgaria. The Ottoman Empire also took advantage of the situation to regain some lost territories from the previous war. "
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  • @Cyrano
    It’s good to see someone clueless on this site once in a while. It’s like a breath of fresh air among all the geniuses.

    Romanians, Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians are not Slavs. Only the Bulgarians and the Croats are, and of those 2 only Croats actually tried to fight against the Russians. I think those miserable f**ks send a brigade to Stalingrad and the Russians quickly put them out of their misery. No one made back home alive, I think.

    The Bulgarians were German allies – yes, but none of them fought alongside the Germans on the eastern front. Smart people.

    You’re welcome. And Bulgaria always seems to support the opposite side. The Nazi’s during WWII and Nato during the Serbian war. Maybe not so smart.

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    Your grasp of history is fascinating. Bulgaria didn't actively participate in NATO attack on Serbia, they only allowed their territory to be used by NATO during the attack, which is bad enough, but then again Bulgaria has a long history of grievances against Serbia dating to the 2nd Balkan war when the Serbs stabbed Bulgaria in the back. So again, I can't really blame Bulgaria for being hostile to Serbia.
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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    Chinese people, Russians, and Indians need to come together to forge a new idea for nationalism. The new direction for nationalism will discard with the old idea that territorial sovereignty must be absolute and put a premium on national human capital and cohesion.

    What this practically means:

    - China should dump southwest Xinjiang (4 prefectures including Kashgar, Hotan, Aksu) and give that new entity Kashgaria the independence they want.
    - Russia should get rid of the NCFD, giving them independence, and build a wall around it
    - India should let the Kashmir Valley vote for independence (90%+ of the Vale would vote yes)

    Same kind of benefits for everyone:

    - China gets rid of almost 8 million Uighurs who can’t get along with Chinese people. That ends the insurgency and burden of paying for the loyalty of these people for generations to come. There are 2 million other Uighurs in northeast Xinjiang but this group is better assimilated and not a single insurgent attack has originated from there.
    - Russia can end its insurgency and get rid of 8 million people from the most violent ethnic groups and save a lot of state money
    - India will end its biggest and longest running internal security problem and get rid of 7 million disloyal people

    Since it’s such a break from tradition for a majority people to want to discard territory, new nationalists need to find strength and confidence by voicing the same idea together.

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  • @melanf

    I’m just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.
     
    At present, Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan relatively peaceful region, due to the fact that the Russian intelligence services a systematic exterminated the jihadists.
    http://imgur.com/a/kuxcW

    In the case of a (hypothetical) independence of these republics, they will start a civil war (accompanied by a flow of refugees to Russia), in which radical jihadists will win . After that, these areas will become ISIS-like enclaves, and "military bases" for waging Jihad against Russia. Of course, in this case, to deal with these tumors will be many times more expensive.


    I should add that subsidies for the Islamic regions of the Caucasus have one positive consequence - due to their growing standard of living the birth rate is falling (this is good because the trouble of these places - overpopulation)

    The likely more important reason for the stability is the exodus of jihadists and potential jihadi recruits to Syria and Iraq.

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  • @gT
    Didn't the Croats defect wholesale to Aldolf? Along with lots of Bulgarians and Romanians, lots in Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania. And lets not forget about the Banderites in Ukraine. And nearly all of them were Slavs, just like the Russians.

    You're thinking more about the Tartars in Crimea, who were essentially Turkish. But the Russian Muslims couldn't have loved communism too much, after all, the bulk of the original Bolsheviks were Jewish. Stalin quickly rectified that matter. But prior to Communism, the Muslims seemed to have got on with the Tsars, but only after they were defeated of course. Caucasian Muslims served with distinction in the Tsar's army and bodyguards, some even reached the rank of general.

    There is even a statue of a Muslim general in St Petersburg, who was executed by the Bolsheviks because he refused to betray Tsar Nicholas II.

    It’s good to see someone clueless on this site once in a while. It’s like a breath of fresh air among all the geniuses.

    Romanians, Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians are not Slavs. Only the Bulgarians and the Croats are, and of those 2 only Croats actually tried to fight against the Russians. I think those miserable f**ks send a brigade to Stalingrad and the Russians quickly put them out of their misery. No one made back home alive, I think.

    The Bulgarians were German allies – yes, but none of them fought alongside the Germans on the eastern front. Smart people.

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    You're welcome. And Bulgaria always seems to support the opposite side. The Nazi's during WWII and Nato during the Serbian war. Maybe not so smart.
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  • @ussr andy

    When war comes the palm and the fingers come together to form a fist
     
    didn't they defect wholesale to Adolf last time?

    Didn’t the Croats defect wholesale to Aldolf? Along with lots of Bulgarians and Romanians, lots in Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania. And lets not forget about the Banderites in Ukraine. And nearly all of them were Slavs, just like the Russians.

    You’re thinking more about the Tartars in Crimea, who were essentially Turkish. But the Russian Muslims couldn’t have loved communism too much, after all, the bulk of the original Bolsheviks were Jewish. Stalin quickly rectified that matter. But prior to Communism, the Muslims seemed to have got on with the Tsars, but only after they were defeated of course. Caucasian Muslims served with distinction in the Tsar’s army and bodyguards, some even reached the rank of general.

    There is even a statue of a Muslim general in St Petersburg, who was executed by the Bolsheviks because he refused to betray Tsar Nicholas II.

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    It’s good to see someone clueless on this site once in a while. It’s like a breath of fresh air among all the geniuses.

    Romanians, Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians are not Slavs. Only the Bulgarians and the Croats are, and of those 2 only Croats actually tried to fight against the Russians. I think those miserable f**ks send a brigade to Stalingrad and the Russians quickly put them out of their misery. No one made back home alive, I think.

    The Bulgarians were German allies – yes, but none of them fought alongside the Germans on the eastern front. Smart people.
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  • @gT
    Nope, bigger is always better only applies to the Russian brown bear, not to the American bald eagle. Russia should annex Central Asia, Ukraine and BeloRussia, those areas belong to Russia since the days of the Tsars.

    Think of Russia as a hand. The palm of the hand is Russian and Orthodox, and must always remain Russian and Orthodox, some of the fingers of the hand are Asiatic or Moslem. When war comes the palm and the fingers come together to form a fist to KO whoever is stupid enough to get that close. That one baby finger on the one hand, Chechnya, has got a very useful altitude (attitude with vengeance), that's the reason why the Russian Special Forces have their training base there.

    At a much later stage Afghanistan would make a great addition to the Russian "Empire". They're self sufficient and are sitting on lots of untapped mineral resources. The Afghans have respect for the Russians, they don't respect the Americans. Pakistan is too much trouble.

    When war comes the palm and the fingers come together to form a fist

    didn’t they defect wholesale to Adolf last time?

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    Didn't the Croats defect wholesale to Aldolf? Along with lots of Bulgarians and Romanians, lots in Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania. And lets not forget about the Banderites in Ukraine. And nearly all of them were Slavs, just like the Russians.

    You're thinking more about the Tartars in Crimea, who were essentially Turkish. But the Russian Muslims couldn't have loved communism too much, after all, the bulk of the original Bolsheviks were Jewish. Stalin quickly rectified that matter. But prior to Communism, the Muslims seemed to have got on with the Tsars, but only after they were defeated of course. Caucasian Muslims served with distinction in the Tsar's army and bodyguards, some even reached the rank of general.

    There is even a statue of a Muslim general in St Petersburg, who was executed by the Bolsheviks because he refused to betray Tsar Nicholas II.
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  • @German_reader
    Thanks for the link, that's pretty interesting. Seems to confirm a negative view of Chechens and their culture.

    It is interesting, but there are no statistics there, and no mention of base rates, so it is not so useful in estimating the magnitude of the problem. For example, Chechens make up roughly .8 percent of the population of the Russian federation, according to the numbers on Wikipedia. By contrast, drug addicts make up roughly 1.6 percent of the population. And don’t even mention alcoholics. So you’d have to compare the base rates for violent criminality in these populations to begin to understand how much of a problem Chechens are. For example, I’d like to know what percentage of Chechen men, aged 16-40, have killed someone, versus the same for drug addicts or alcoholics.

    Anecdotally, Chechens are very much over-represented in the “Russian” mafia, which Anatoly discussed at some point. But to what degree? Are there any reliable statistics on this?

    And even the really crazy ones who have sworn allegiance to ISIS number in the few thousands, from the estimates that I have seen. I suspect the rest of them really just want to go about their lives and are probably damned tired of war.

    I am saying all these things not to deny that there is a problem, but to point out that it is not so easy to know how big the problem is.

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  • @The Big Red Scary
    " Someone like Kadyrov can hardly be considered as reliable and will eventually cause trouble."

    This article discusses how complicated the situation is:

    https://gordonhahn.com/2017/05/05/chechnya-russias-black-hole-putins-achilles-heel-complete-version-parts-1-and-2/

    I'd like to make a general caveat, however, which is that while there is good reason to be concerned about this and other problems, one somehow has to estimate the magnitude of a problem before
    choosing a course of action, and I see very few attempts at such estimation, with this or any other scary problem. An expert on Caucasian extremism, like Gordon Hahn, might be particularly prone to over-estimating the threat from his subject of expertise.

    Thanks for the link, that’s pretty interesting. Seems to confirm a negative view of Chechens and their culture.

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    It is interesting, but there are no statistics there, and no mention of base rates, so it is not so useful in estimating the magnitude of the problem. For example, Chechens make up roughly .8 percent of the population of the Russian federation, according to the numbers on Wikipedia. By contrast, drug addicts make up roughly 1.6 percent of the population. And don't even mention alcoholics. So you'd have to compare the base rates for violent criminality in these populations to begin to understand how much of a problem Chechens are. For example, I'd like to know what percentage of Chechen men, aged 16-40, have killed someone, versus the same for drug addicts or alcoholics.

    Anecdotally, Chechens are very much over-represented in the "Russian" mafia, which Anatoly discussed at some point. But to what degree? Are there any reliable statistics on this?

    And even the really crazy ones who have sworn allegiance to ISIS number in the few thousands, from the estimates that I have seen. I suspect the rest of them really just want to go about their lives and are probably damned tired of war.

    I am saying all these things not to deny that there is a problem, but to point out that it is not so easy to know how big the problem is.

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  • @melanf

    I’m just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.
     
    At present, Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan relatively peaceful region, due to the fact that the Russian intelligence services a systematic exterminated the jihadists.
    http://imgur.com/a/kuxcW

    In the case of a (hypothetical) independence of these republics, they will start a civil war (accompanied by a flow of refugees to Russia), in which radical jihadists will win . After that, these areas will become ISIS-like enclaves, and "military bases" for waging Jihad against Russia. Of course, in this case, to deal with these tumors will be many times more expensive.


    I should add that subsidies for the Islamic regions of the Caucasus have one positive consequence - due to their growing standard of living the birth rate is falling (this is good because the trouble of these places - overpopulation)

    In the case of a (hypothetical) independence of these republics, they will start a civil war (accompanied by a flow of refugees to Russia), in which radical jihadists will win . After that, these areas will become ISIS-like enclaves, and “military bases” for waging Jihad against Russia.

    If I understand correctly, that’s what happened after the 1st Chechen war, so it looks like a serious danger.
    Seems like there aren’t really any good alternatives to the present course then.

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  • @AP

    Bigger is always better
     
    So do you think that America would be better if it annexed Mexico? And Mexicans are orders of magnitude less troublesome than are Chechens.

    But I see you support Russia annexing Central Asia if it could. Why not take Afghanistan too? And Pakistan while you are at it.

    Nope, bigger is always better only applies to the Russian brown bear, not to the American bald eagle. Russia should annex Central Asia, Ukraine and BeloRussia, those areas belong to Russia since the days of the Tsars.

    Think of Russia as a hand. The palm of the hand is Russian and Orthodox, and must always remain Russian and Orthodox, some of the fingers of the hand are Asiatic or Moslem. When war comes the palm and the fingers come together to form a fist to KO whoever is stupid enough to get that close. That one baby finger on the one hand, Chechnya, has got a very useful altitude (attitude with vengeance), that’s the reason why the Russian Special Forces have their training base there.

    At a much later stage Afghanistan would make a great addition to the Russian “Empire”. They’re self sufficient and are sitting on lots of untapped mineral resources. The Afghans have respect for the Russians, they don’t respect the Americans. Pakistan is too much trouble.

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    When war comes the palm and the fingers come together to form a fist
     
    didn't they defect wholesale to Adolf last time?
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  • @German_reader

    The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.
     
    There aren't many Russian settlers in Chechnya though anymore, if I understand correctly the Chechens expelled them during the 1990s. There are plenty of Israelis who want to colonize the West bank...do many Russians want to go to Chechnya (I certainly wouldn't)?
    Anyway, my intention isn't to lecture you or engage in pointless moralizing, I'm just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia's relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.

    I’m just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.

    At present, Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan relatively peaceful region, due to the fact that the Russian intelligence services a systematic exterminated the jihadists.

    http://imgur.com/a/kuxcW

    In the case of a (hypothetical) independence of these republics, they will start a civil war (accompanied by a flow of refugees to Russia), in which radical jihadists will win . After that, these areas will become ISIS-like enclaves, and “military bases” for waging Jihad against Russia. Of course, in this case, to deal with these tumors will be many times more expensive.

    I should add that subsidies for the Islamic regions of the Caucasus have one positive consequence – due to their growing standard of living the birth rate is falling (this is good because the trouble of these places – overpopulation)

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    In the case of a (hypothetical) independence of these republics, they will start a civil war (accompanied by a flow of refugees to Russia), in which radical jihadists will win . After that, these areas will become ISIS-like enclaves, and “military bases” for waging Jihad against Russia.
     
    If I understand correctly, that's what happened after the 1st Chechen war, so it looks like a serious danger.
    Seems like there aren't really any good alternatives to the present course then.
    , @Gordon Hahn
    The likely more important reason for the stability is the exodus of jihadists and potential jihadi recruits to Syria and Iraq.
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  • @German_reader

    it’s deprives us of power and resources
     
    If I understand Ak correctly, he believes those regions are actually a drain on resources.
    Personally I have no opinion on the matter; it just seems to me Russia hasn't really found a viable long-term strategy for the Caucasus (or at least for Chechnya). Someone like Kadyrov can hardly be considered as reliable and will eventually cause trouble.

    ” Someone like Kadyrov can hardly be considered as reliable and will eventually cause trouble.”

    This article discusses how complicated the situation is:

    https://gordonhahn.com/2017/05/05/chechnya-russias-black-hole-putins-achilles-heel-complete-version-parts-1-and-2/

    I’d like to make a general caveat, however, which is that while there is good reason to be concerned about this and other problems, one somehow has to estimate the magnitude of a problem before
    choosing a course of action, and I see very few attempts at such estimation, with this or any other scary problem. An expert on Caucasian extremism, like Gordon Hahn, might be particularly prone to over-estimating the threat from his subject of expertise.

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    Thanks for the link, that's pretty interesting. Seems to confirm a negative view of Chechens and their culture.
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  • @German_reader

    The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.
     
    There aren't many Russian settlers in Chechnya though anymore, if I understand correctly the Chechens expelled them during the 1990s. There are plenty of Israelis who want to colonize the West bank...do many Russians want to go to Chechnya (I certainly wouldn't)?
    Anyway, my intention isn't to lecture you or engage in pointless moralizing, I'm just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia's relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.

    {I’m just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.}

    The reason Russian empire expanded southward in the first place was because its heartland was being attacked by various roaming and nomadic invaders from the South. If Russia leaves, Caucasus republics will not stay independent for long. They will be ‘independent’ in name only, but will be taken over and run by multitudes of historic and contemporary Muslim enemies and rivals of Russia: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan,….you name it.

    Then it will be back to the situation of centuries ago when Russia was just Grand Duchy of Moscow.

    Same with Chechnya: Russian Empire invaded and took over Chechnya, because Chechen bandits were raiding Russian settlements to the North, kidnapping people and holding them for ransom.
    btw: Chechens reverted to their bandit ways during the brief, lawless ‘independence’ period after Russia’s defeat in 1st Chechen war.

    Same with Crimea: Russian Empire finally cleared Crimea of its Islamist Tatar scum, after suffering 3 centuries of raids by savage Islamist nomads. Millions of Slavs were kidnapped from Russian lands and sold into slavery.

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  • @gT

    Russian nationalists are not wrong when they say that Russians are “feeding the Caucasus.”

     

    Are Russian nationalists really Russian nationalists or are they Russian traitors? Any attempt to make Russia smaller means that Russia is more vulnerable to Russia's enemies, Nato and the USA. Do Russian nationalists want to make Russia kowtow to the USA?????

    Bigger is always better, somehow methods must be found to make the Russian "Empire" work better and even grow bigger. Russia must just manage matters more efficiently than the Soviet Union did. Muslims must be controlled, that is definite, but so must Jews. Muslims have the added benefit that they make good soldiers. Look how in Donetsk and Luhansk the average Russian soldier doesn't really want to "volunteer" because the pay is too little and the risks too high, but the "Caucasian's" don't seem to have that problem.

    So in times of peace Russia might have to subsidize here and there, within reason. Not everyone can be rich, that's obvious, but some need to be aided in achieving self sufficiency, within reason. Muslims should be happy if they have to live their lives just like the Prophet Mohammed did. All this modern stuff like cars, electricity, tv's, etc, is all haram (forbidden) because its not in the Koran.

    Russia should take over all the former Soviet Republics, except for all those Eastern European monkeys like Poland, Latvia, etc. If war breaks out Russia would be glad to have all that available manpower and resources. “In times of peace a wise man prepares for war.”

    Short term thinking by bean counters (accountants / MBA's) always ruins everything, rather think long term like engineers do. If Russia plays her cards right, she can extend the middle finger to all on earth and in space for the next 1000 years.

    Bigger is always better

    So do you think that America would be better if it annexed Mexico? And Mexicans are orders of magnitude less troublesome than are Chechens.

    But I see you support Russia annexing Central Asia if it could. Why not take Afghanistan too? And Pakistan while you are at it.

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    Nope, bigger is always better only applies to the Russian brown bear, not to the American bald eagle. Russia should annex Central Asia, Ukraine and BeloRussia, those areas belong to Russia since the days of the Tsars.

    Think of Russia as a hand. The palm of the hand is Russian and Orthodox, and must always remain Russian and Orthodox, some of the fingers of the hand are Asiatic or Moslem. When war comes the palm and the fingers come together to form a fist to KO whoever is stupid enough to get that close. That one baby finger on the one hand, Chechnya, has got a very useful altitude (attitude with vengeance), that's the reason why the Russian Special Forces have their training base there.

    At a much later stage Afghanistan would make a great addition to the Russian "Empire". They're self sufficient and are sitting on lots of untapped mineral resources. The Afghans have respect for the Russians, they don't respect the Americans. Pakistan is too much trouble.
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  • @gT

    Russian nationalists are not wrong when they say that Russians are “feeding the Caucasus.”

     

    Are Russian nationalists really Russian nationalists or are they Russian traitors? Any attempt to make Russia smaller means that Russia is more vulnerable to Russia's enemies, Nato and the USA. Do Russian nationalists want to make Russia kowtow to the USA?????

    Bigger is always better, somehow methods must be found to make the Russian "Empire" work better and even grow bigger. Russia must just manage matters more efficiently than the Soviet Union did. Muslims must be controlled, that is definite, but so must Jews. Muslims have the added benefit that they make good soldiers. Look how in Donetsk and Luhansk the average Russian soldier doesn't really want to "volunteer" because the pay is too little and the risks too high, but the "Caucasian's" don't seem to have that problem.

    So in times of peace Russia might have to subsidize here and there, within reason. Not everyone can be rich, that's obvious, but some need to be aided in achieving self sufficiency, within reason. Muslims should be happy if they have to live their lives just like the Prophet Mohammed did. All this modern stuff like cars, electricity, tv's, etc, is all haram (forbidden) because its not in the Koran.

    Russia should take over all the former Soviet Republics, except for all those Eastern European monkeys like Poland, Latvia, etc. If war breaks out Russia would be glad to have all that available manpower and resources. “In times of peace a wise man prepares for war.”

    Short term thinking by bean counters (accountants / MBA's) always ruins everything, rather think long term like engineers do. If Russia plays her cards right, she can extend the middle finger to all on earth and in space for the next 1000 years.

    The sanest and most intelligent comment on this thread so far… Bravo!

    Anatoly Karlin should take his half-baked HBD theories based on exam-score data and his fantasies of an almost-pure ethnostate in a country the size of Russia; and SHOVE them. These theories and prescriptions seem like they’ve been developed in a near-autistic mental state, with no appreciation of existing internal and external conditions and threats, or consideration of real-world consequences. Adoption of Karlin’s nerdy HBD-nationalist dogma as actual policy in Russia would lead to swift disaster, with vicious ethnic and regional separatist conflicts breaking out across the country and Russia losing her crucial geostrategic Northern Caucasus defensive underbelly – which would morph into a U.S./NATO and jihadi forward base aimed at the rest of Russia in no time, just as the former Ukrainian and Baltic Soviet republics and allied Warsaw Pact nations such as Poland and Romania have now become daggers aimed at the heart of Russia, governed by hostile anti-Russian regimes and bristling with NATO troops, bases and missiles on Russia’s border. In case of the loss of the Northern Caucasus, it would be even WORSE – ten times worse.

    Sometimes I can’t help suspecting that Karlin may actually be some sort of a U.S. intelligence agent sent on a mission to foment trouble in Russia (now that the liberast subversives seem to have failed) by riling up the dumber and more gullible elements among the ethnonationalist scene there.

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  • @German_reader

    The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.
     
    There aren't many Russian settlers in Chechnya though anymore, if I understand correctly the Chechens expelled them during the 1990s. There are plenty of Israelis who want to colonize the West bank...do many Russians want to go to Chechnya (I certainly wouldn't)?
    Anyway, my intention isn't to lecture you or engage in pointless moralizing, I'm just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia's relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.

    or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future

    It appears to be stable and relatively peaceful now, to compare with, say, Muslim enclaves in the Philippines, or Jammu and Kashmir in India.

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  • @Felix Keverich
    If we're going to talk about Russian identity, then Ukraine and Belarus should be annexed. I was referring to specific socio-political model, which I believe could be replicated in Russia's Caucasus. The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.

    The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.

    There aren’t many Russian settlers in Chechnya though anymore, if I understand correctly the Chechens expelled them during the 1990s. There are plenty of Israelis who want to colonize the West bank…do many Russians want to go to Chechnya (I certainly wouldn’t)?
    Anyway, my intention isn’t to lecture you or engage in pointless moralizing, I’m just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.

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    or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future
     
    It appears to be stable and relatively peaceful now, to compare with, say, Muslim enclaves in the Philippines, or Jammu and Kashmir in India.
    , @Avery
    {I’m just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.}

    The reason Russian empire expanded southward in the first place was because its heartland was being attacked by various roaming and nomadic invaders from the South. If Russia leaves, Caucasus republics will not stay independent for long. They will be 'independent' in name only, but will be taken over and run by multitudes of historic and contemporary Muslim enemies and rivals of Russia: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan,....you name it.

    Then it will be back to the situation of centuries ago when Russia was just Grand Duchy of Moscow.

    Same with Chechnya: Russian Empire invaded and took over Chechnya, because Chechen bandits were raiding Russian settlements to the North, kidnapping people and holding them for ransom.
    btw: Chechens reverted to their bandit ways during the brief, lawless 'independence' period after Russia's defeat in 1st Chechen war.

    Same with Crimea: Russian Empire finally cleared Crimea of its Islamist Tatar scum, after suffering 3 centuries of raids by savage Islamist nomads. Millions of Slavs were kidnapped from Russian lands and sold into slavery.
    , @melanf

    I’m just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia’s relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.
     
    At present, Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan relatively peaceful region, due to the fact that the Russian intelligence services a systematic exterminated the jihadists.
    http://imgur.com/a/kuxcW

    In the case of a (hypothetical) independence of these republics, they will start a civil war (accompanied by a flow of refugees to Russia), in which radical jihadists will win . After that, these areas will become ISIS-like enclaves, and "military bases" for waging Jihad against Russia. Of course, in this case, to deal with these tumors will be many times more expensive.


    I should add that subsidies for the Islamic regions of the Caucasus have one positive consequence - due to their growing standard of living the birth rate is falling (this is good because the trouble of these places - overpopulation)
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  • @Felix Keverich
    If we're going to talk about Russian identity, then Ukraine and Belarus should be annexed. I was referring to specific socio-political model, which I believe could be replicated in Russia's Caucasus. The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.

    The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine

    Chechens are settlers in Chechnya? Wow!

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  • @German_reader

    Hey, if State of Israel can still be “a beacon of democracy for mankind”
     
    Apart from Americans and some dumb "conservatives" in Europe nobody believes this, Israel's image has suffered a lot.
    And anyway, the situation isn't exactly comparable. I can see how there could be real arguments against Russia giving up the Caucasus (security concerns regarding Islamism; could it lead to separatist movements in other areas and lead to the breakup of the Russian Federation - which might diminish Russia's power in international politics and put it at the mercy of the US), I make no judgment on the matter...but is the Caucasus central to Russian national identity like the territories Israel controls or wants to control are to at least some strains of Zionism? That seems doubtful to me.

    If we’re going to talk about Russian identity, then Ukraine and Belarus should be annexed. I was referring to specific socio-political model, which I believe could be replicated in Russia’s Caucasus. The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.

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    The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine

    Chechens are settlers in Chechnya? Wow!
    , @German_reader

    The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.
     
    There aren't many Russian settlers in Chechnya though anymore, if I understand correctly the Chechens expelled them during the 1990s. There are plenty of Israelis who want to colonize the West bank...do many Russians want to go to Chechnya (I certainly wouldn't)?
    Anyway, my intention isn't to lecture you or engage in pointless moralizing, I'm just interested in arguments for/against Russia getting rid of the Caucasus republics, or how Russia's relationship to this volatile area could be stabilized in the future.
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  • @Felix Keverich

    Worse …the USA may do their American thingy…support ‘the oppressed Chechens’ as a pretext to weaken Russia by all means, using gross human rights violation by Russia as a moral justification.
     
    The USA is not going to do anything they don't already do. At the end of the day, it's the job of Russian military, secret services etc to secure the border, make sure no weapons smuggling and no organized insurgency is going on.

    'Moral high ground' is not a good reason to tolerate bad Caucasian behavior, and since their behavior cannot change, we'll need to take steps to insulate our population.

    As I alluded to A22, I am not really suggesting to back off from Western ‘anger’ indefinitely, it’s a question of timing.
    The other thing is how to practically include the north caucasus within Russia and yet treating the natives there humanely and yet ‘insulate’ Russians from ‘Caucasian violence’ – I have no idea if it can ever be done.

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  • @A22
    Backing off to not anger the West is not really logical.
    the US&EU are already doing their best to weaken off Russia with continuous sanctions ( even when they lift old sanctions new sanctions for whatever stupid reason are quickly introduced).
    So it is pretty much status quo, US&EU will introduce some sanctions. China and the rest of asia will not care.
    Also Apartheid can be done in a smart way such that it minimizes pr damage.

    Agree, EU and USA are doing all they can to weaken Russia.
    That said, the USA and EU are still too powerful ,I think, to completely snub off.
    China, I agree, couldn’t care less, but their economic intertwinings with the West mean they tend to just be neutral in these issues which , in my view, isn’t enough a support. Japan and South Korea are American Asian lapdogs.
    I am trying to say, it is perhaps too early to snub the West until the Russo-Chinese alliance becomes more formidable. And Japan and South Korea to be weaned out of their American idol worship(ie their fear of China) and Eastern Europe of their EU idol worship(ie their fear of Russia).
    To me America and Western Europe with their rabid multiculturalism are ultimately doomed polities. For the rest of the world…we have to stand our ground and not crumble by Western meddlings and wait for the eventuality.
    Care to elaborate on the smart Apartheid?
    De-islamization of the Caucasian ethnicities would be a good thing but I cant even think how.

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  • Russian nationalists are not wrong when they say that Russians are “feeding the Caucasus.”

    Are Russian nationalists really Russian nationalists or are they Russian traitors? Any attempt to make Russia smaller means that Russia is more vulnerable to Russia’s enemies, Nato and the USA. Do Russian nationalists want to make Russia kowtow to the USA?????

    Bigger is always better, somehow methods must be found to make the Russian “Empire” work better and even grow bigger. Russia must just manage matters more efficiently than the Soviet Union did. Muslims must be controlled, that is definite, but so must Jews. Muslims have the added benefit that they make good soldiers. Look how in Donetsk and Luhansk the average Russian soldier doesn’t really want to “volunteer” because the pay is too little and the risks too high, but the “Caucasian’s” don’t seem to have that problem.

    So in times of peace Russia might have to subsidize here and there, within reason. Not everyone can be rich, that’s obvious, but some need to be aided in achieving self sufficiency, within reason. Muslims should be happy if they have to live their lives just like the Prophet Mohammed did. All this modern stuff like cars, electricity, tv’s, etc, is all haram (forbidden) because its not in the Koran.

    Russia should take over all the former Soviet Republics, except for all those Eastern European monkeys like Poland, Latvia, etc. If war breaks out Russia would be glad to have all that available manpower and resources. “In times of peace a wise man prepares for war.”

    Short term thinking by bean counters (accountants / MBA’s) always ruins everything, rather think long term like engineers do. If Russia plays her cards right, she can extend the middle finger to all on earth and in space for the next 1000 years.

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    The sanest and most intelligent comment on this thread so far... Bravo!

    Anatoly Karlin should take his half-baked HBD theories based on exam-score data and his fantasies of an almost-pure ethnostate in a country the size of Russia; and SHOVE them. These theories and prescriptions seem like they've been developed in a near-autistic mental state, with no appreciation of existing internal and external conditions and threats, or consideration of real-world consequences. Adoption of Karlin's nerdy HBD-nationalist dogma as actual policy in Russia would lead to swift disaster, with vicious ethnic and regional separatist conflicts breaking out across the country and Russia losing her crucial geostrategic Northern Caucasus defensive underbelly - which would morph into a U.S./NATO and jihadi forward base aimed at the rest of Russia in no time, just as the former Ukrainian and Baltic Soviet republics and allied Warsaw Pact nations such as Poland and Romania have now become daggers aimed at the heart of Russia, governed by hostile anti-Russian regimes and bristling with NATO troops, bases and missiles on Russia's border. In case of the loss of the Northern Caucasus, it would be even WORSE - ten times worse.

    Sometimes I can't help suspecting that Karlin may actually be some sort of a U.S. intelligence agent sent on a mission to foment trouble in Russia (now that the liberast subversives seem to have failed) by riling up the dumber and more gullible elements among the ethnonationalist scene there.
    , @AP

    Bigger is always better
     
    So do you think that America would be better if it annexed Mexico? And Mexicans are orders of magnitude less troublesome than are Chechens.

    But I see you support Russia annexing Central Asia if it could. Why not take Afghanistan too? And Pakistan while you are at it.
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  • @sinotibetan
    The problem is no one can 'keep them' confined in some reservations for long. 'Treating them like a wildlife' will give geopolitical rivals of Russia like the EU and the USA to claim the 'moral higher ground' that 'Russia violates human rights'. Even nations who symphatize with Russia will not be able to support this. Not good for international relations and diplomacy.
    Worse ...the USA may do their American thingy...support 'the oppressed Chechens' as a pretext to weaken Russia by all means, using gross human rights violation by Russia as a moral justification.
    Whether it is Muslim terrorists landmowing victims in some city in Western Europe or Kadyrov spewing solidarity with Rohingyas or Uyghur 'splittists' using daggers to kill victims or some pastor decapitated etc - somehow it has to do with Islam. Islam is both religion and a political ideology. Part of the solution is how non Muslims deal with Islam. We cannot rely on politicians because they all fear this ideology which has more than 1 billion adherents and growing fast, they will never say it out or figure a solution. Their solution is say niceties and appease. I am not sure what the solution(s) may be but the longer we are in a state of denial, the worse the future carnage will be.

    Backing off to not anger the West is not really logical.
    the US&EU are already doing their best to weaken off Russia with continuous sanctions ( even when they lift old sanctions new sanctions for whatever stupid reason are quickly introduced).
    So it is pretty much status quo, US&EU will introduce some sanctions. China and the rest of asia will not care.
    Also Apartheid can be done in a smart way such that it minimizes pr damage.

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    Agree, EU and USA are doing all they can to weaken Russia.
    That said, the USA and EU are still too powerful ,I think, to completely snub off.
    China, I agree, couldn't care less, but their economic intertwinings with the West mean they tend to just be neutral in these issues which , in my view, isn't enough a support. Japan and South Korea are American Asian lapdogs.
    I am trying to say, it is perhaps too early to snub the West until the Russo-Chinese alliance becomes more formidable. And Japan and South Korea to be weaned out of their American idol worship(ie their fear of China) and Eastern Europe of their EU idol worship(ie their fear of Russia).
    To me America and Western Europe with their rabid multiculturalism are ultimately doomed polities. For the rest of the world...we have to stand our ground and not crumble by Western meddlings and wait for the eventuality.
    Care to elaborate on the smart Apartheid?
    De-islamization of the Caucasian ethnicities would be a good thing but I cant even think how.
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  • @Felix Keverich
    Ideal solution is to keep the territory, get rid of the natives somehow. Of course, the ideal solution isn't always practical, but we know for a fact that giving them independence will accomplish nothing, as these people will simply move to live in Russian cities, just like Central Asians did.

    Personally, I'm in favor of Israeli style apartheid system for North Caucasus. End all fiscal transfers, keep Caucasians walled off in their mountain regions, restrict their movements across Russia, use overwhelming force if they get rowdy.

    I suggest labeling them all as gays and sending them to Germany and/or Sweden.

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  • @sinotibetan
    The problem is no one can 'keep them' confined in some reservations for long. 'Treating them like a wildlife' will give geopolitical rivals of Russia like the EU and the USA to claim the 'moral higher ground' that 'Russia violates human rights'. Even nations who symphatize with Russia will not be able to support this. Not good for international relations and diplomacy.
    Worse ...the USA may do their American thingy...support 'the oppressed Chechens' as a pretext to weaken Russia by all means, using gross human rights violation by Russia as a moral justification.
    Whether it is Muslim terrorists landmowing victims in some city in Western Europe or Kadyrov spewing solidarity with Rohingyas or Uyghur 'splittists' using daggers to kill victims or some pastor decapitated etc - somehow it has to do with Islam. Islam is both religion and a political ideology. Part of the solution is how non Muslims deal with Islam. We cannot rely on politicians because they all fear this ideology which has more than 1 billion adherents and growing fast, they will never say it out or figure a solution. Their solution is say niceties and appease. I am not sure what the solution(s) may be but the longer we are in a state of denial, the worse the future carnage will be.

    Worse …the USA may do their American thingy…support ‘the oppressed Chechens’ as a pretext to weaken Russia by all means, using gross human rights violation by Russia as a moral justification.

    The USA is not going to do anything they don’t already do. At the end of the day, it’s the job of Russian military, secret services etc to secure the border, make sure no weapons smuggling and no organized insurgency is going on.

    ‘Moral high ground’ is not a good reason to tolerate bad Caucasian behavior, and since their behavior cannot change, we’ll need to take steps to insulate our population.

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    As I alluded to A22, I am not really suggesting to back off from Western 'anger' indefinitely, it's a question of timing.
    The other thing is how to practically include the north caucasus within Russia and yet treating the natives there humanely and yet 'insulate' Russians from 'Caucasian violence' - I have no idea if it can ever be done.
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  • @Felix Keverich
    Hey, if State of Israel can still be "a beacon of democracy for mankind", while keeping Palestinians in holding pens, then I see no reason why this solution can't be replicated here. I'm not saying we should exterminate the Chechens - just keep them safely contained within their reservation so they can't hurt us, treat them like a form of wildlife of something.

    Hey, if State of Israel can still be “a beacon of democracy for mankind”

    Apart from Americans and some dumb “conservatives” in Europe nobody believes this, Israel’s image has suffered a lot.
    And anyway, the situation isn’t exactly comparable. I can see how there could be real arguments against Russia giving up the Caucasus (security concerns regarding Islamism; could it lead to separatist movements in other areas and lead to the breakup of the Russian Federation – which might diminish Russia’s power in international politics and put it at the mercy of the US), I make no judgment on the matter…but is the Caucasus central to Russian national identity like the territories Israel controls or wants to control are to at least some strains of Zionism? That seems doubtful to me.

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    If we're going to talk about Russian identity, then Ukraine and Belarus should be annexed. I was referring to specific socio-political model, which I believe could be replicated in Russia's Caucasus. The situation is in fact quite comparable, because Jews are settlers in Israel/Palestine.
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  • @sinotibetan
    The problem is no one can 'keep them' confined in some reservations for long. 'Treating them like a wildlife' will give geopolitical rivals of Russia like the EU and the USA to claim the 'moral higher ground' that 'Russia violates human rights'. Even nations who symphatize with Russia will not be able to support this. Not good for international relations and diplomacy.
    Worse ...the USA may do their American thingy...support 'the oppressed Chechens' as a pretext to weaken Russia by all means, using gross human rights violation by Russia as a moral justification.
    Whether it is Muslim terrorists landmowing victims in some city in Western Europe or Kadyrov spewing solidarity with Rohingyas or Uyghur 'splittists' using daggers to kill victims or some pastor decapitated etc - somehow it has to do with Islam. Islam is both religion and a political ideology. Part of the solution is how non Muslims deal with Islam. We cannot rely on politicians because they all fear this ideology which has more than 1 billion adherents and growing fast, they will never say it out or figure a solution. Their solution is say niceties and appease. I am not sure what the solution(s) may be but the longer we are in a state of denial, the worse the future carnage will be.

    The problem is no one can ‘keep them’ confined in some reservations for long. ‘Treating them like a wildlife’ will give geopolitical rivals of Russia like the EU and the USA to claim the ‘moral higher ground’ that ‘Russia violates human rights’.

    They can take them to US and EU and show them the beauty of “democracy”, and maybe someone like Tsarnaev brothers will pay them back for their kindness. Terrorism is wrong only when conducted against US, otherwise it can be a useful tool of “diplomacy”.

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  • @Felix Keverich
    Hey, if State of Israel can still be "a beacon of democracy for mankind", while keeping Palestinians in holding pens, then I see no reason why this solution can't be replicated here. I'm not saying we should exterminate the Chechens - just keep them safely contained within their reservation so they can't hurt us, treat them like a form of wildlife of something.

    The problem is no one can ‘keep them’ confined in some reservations for long. ‘Treating them like a wildlife’ will give geopolitical rivals of Russia like the EU and the USA to claim the ‘moral higher ground’ that ‘Russia violates human rights’. Even nations who symphatize with Russia will not be able to support this. Not good for international relations and diplomacy.
    Worse …the USA may do their American thingy…support ‘the oppressed Chechens’ as a pretext to weaken Russia by all means, using gross human rights violation by Russia as a moral justification.
    Whether it is Muslim terrorists landmowing victims in some city in Western Europe or Kadyrov spewing solidarity with Rohingyas or Uyghur ‘splittists’ using daggers to kill victims or some pastor decapitated etc – somehow it has to do with Islam. Islam is both religion and a political ideology. Part of the solution is how non Muslims deal with Islam. We cannot rely on politicians because they all fear this ideology which has more than 1 billion adherents and growing fast, they will never say it out or figure a solution. Their solution is say niceties and appease. I am not sure what the solution(s) may be but the longer we are in a state of denial, the worse the future carnage will be.

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    The problem is no one can ‘keep them’ confined in some reservations for long. ‘Treating them like a wildlife’ will give geopolitical rivals of Russia like the EU and the USA to claim the ‘moral higher ground’ that ‘Russia violates human rights’.
     
    They can take them to US and EU and show them the beauty of "democracy", and maybe someone like Tsarnaev brothers will pay them back for their kindness. Terrorism is wrong only when conducted against US, otherwise it can be a useful tool of "diplomacy".
    , @Felix Keverich

    Worse …the USA may do their American thingy…support ‘the oppressed Chechens’ as a pretext to weaken Russia by all means, using gross human rights violation by Russia as a moral justification.
     
    The USA is not going to do anything they don't already do. At the end of the day, it's the job of Russian military, secret services etc to secure the border, make sure no weapons smuggling and no organized insurgency is going on.

    'Moral high ground' is not a good reason to tolerate bad Caucasian behavior, and since their behavior cannot change, we'll need to take steps to insulate our population.
    , @A22
    Backing off to not anger the West is not really logical.
    the US&EU are already doing their best to weaken off Russia with continuous sanctions ( even when they lift old sanctions new sanctions for whatever stupid reason are quickly introduced).
    So it is pretty much status quo, US&EU will introduce some sanctions. China and the rest of asia will not care.
    Also Apartheid can be done in a smart way such that it minimizes pr damage.
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  • @Hector_St_Clare
    you can consistently be in favour of ethnic homogeneity as a goal in defining nationhood, or you can be in favour of 'power and resources', but you can't be both. Unless you want to go the route of 19th century colonialism, and that didn't end well. (The Nazis and the South Africans represent even unsavoury variations on the same theme).

    This sort of power-worship (and that's exactly the same phrase that German Reader used to describe Richard Spencer, and I think it perfectly sums up why I consider him so morally dangerous) is really creepy at best, and at worst it can go some very dark places. I have nothing against people wanting to live in relatively homogenous societies made up mostly of people who share common descent, ethnic heritage, more or less similar phenotype, etc.. I favour that goal, wich is why I favour independence for the Caucasus, just like I favoured independence for Pakistan, and also why I favour limiting mass migration into Europe. You want to have your cake and eat it too, by having a large Russia and also one dominated by ethnic Russians.

    I don't get the obsession with bigness anyway and never have. Most of the world's large countries would probably be a lot better off if they were smaller, and most of them have smaller neighbors which seem to function much better.

    I share your view ….. that people living in a homogeneous nation(phenotype + culture – wise) is preferable to multiethnic states( especially when the different ethnicities have visibly different phenotypes and culturally different). Hence a state like Sweden should have remained monoethnic(with perhaps a very small Saami minority plus other Scandinavians like Finns and Norwegians who could have assimilated well) …too bad their political elites(and population) think otherwise. The scientific + technological + economic success of generally ‘monoethnic’ Japan(and South Korea) is proof that the current Western mantra multiculturalism and/or multiethnicalism = progress is nonsense. The great scientific progress of the 18th till early/mid 20th Century in Europe occured in rather homogenous societies(the migrant nationalities were majority still assimiliable Europeans).
    Most multicultural or multiethnic nations currently are due to imperialistic adventures of the great powers of the past(either nations subjugated into a bigger empire or ethnic groups forced by an imperial power to migrate to a foreign colony etc.)
    And I agree…. sometimes we cannot have both: a homogenous society but authority and power over homelands of subjugated nations. Tibet and Xinjiang( and to a lesser extend Nei Monggol) for the Chinese; the North Caucasian republics for the Russians.
    Yet at the same time, I think I can understand Felix’s feelings on this issue. ‘Based on history…these Caucasian areas were incorporated into Russia. They are part of Russia. Why should Russia give them up?’. For the Chinese , ‘giving up’ Tibet , Xinjiang and Nei Monggol are even greater territorial loss than all North Caucasus combined. And they have similar reasons as the Russians to hold on to these territories – that these regions were within the grip of the Qing dynasty(even though the emperors of this dynasty were not even ethnic Han Chinese).
    I have laid down some of my guess(in another thread in this blog) why Russia doesnt just kick the Chechens out. It perhaps boils down to geopolitics at play…
    Another thing I notice is the majority of Russian people(including ‘ultranationalists’) do not seem to have issues with say Volga Finns or Buddhist Asians like Buryats or Tyvans(despite their northeast Asian phenotypes and different cultures). My guess is these groups are fine with respecting the dominance of Russians ethnically and culturally. Whereas groups like Chechens or migrant groups like Tajiks compete for this dominance – partly due to their own inherent ‘ethnic pride’ combined with the religion of Islam. I think these 2 almost always precipitates violence and visciousness. One can compare Tibetan separatism vs Uyghur separatism and note the relative levels of violence lead to a common denominator – Islam.

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  • @Hector_St_Clare
    you can consistently be in favour of ethnic homogeneity as a goal in defining nationhood, or you can be in favour of 'power and resources', but you can't be both. Unless you want to go the route of 19th century colonialism, and that didn't end well. (The Nazis and the South Africans represent even unsavoury variations on the same theme).

    This sort of power-worship (and that's exactly the same phrase that German Reader used to describe Richard Spencer, and I think it perfectly sums up why I consider him so morally dangerous) is really creepy at best, and at worst it can go some very dark places. I have nothing against people wanting to live in relatively homogenous societies made up mostly of people who share common descent, ethnic heritage, more or less similar phenotype, etc.. I favour that goal, wich is why I favour independence for the Caucasus, just like I favoured independence for Pakistan, and also why I favour limiting mass migration into Europe. You want to have your cake and eat it too, by having a large Russia and also one dominated by ethnic Russians.

    I don't get the obsession with bigness anyway and never have. Most of the world's large countries would probably be a lot better off if they were smaller, and most of them have smaller neighbors which seem to function much better.

    Hey, if State of Israel can still be “a beacon of democracy for mankind”, while keeping Palestinians in holding pens, then I see no reason why this solution can’t be replicated here. I’m not saying we should exterminate the Chechens – just keep them safely contained within their reservation so they can’t hurt us, treat them like a form of wildlife of something.

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    The problem is no one can 'keep them' confined in some reservations for long. 'Treating them like a wildlife' will give geopolitical rivals of Russia like the EU and the USA to claim the 'moral higher ground' that 'Russia violates human rights'. Even nations who symphatize with Russia will not be able to support this. Not good for international relations and diplomacy.
    Worse ...the USA may do their American thingy...support 'the oppressed Chechens' as a pretext to weaken Russia by all means, using gross human rights violation by Russia as a moral justification.
    Whether it is Muslim terrorists landmowing victims in some city in Western Europe or Kadyrov spewing solidarity with Rohingyas or Uyghur 'splittists' using daggers to kill victims or some pastor decapitated etc - somehow it has to do with Islam. Islam is both religion and a political ideology. Part of the solution is how non Muslims deal with Islam. We cannot rely on politicians because they all fear this ideology which has more than 1 billion adherents and growing fast, they will never say it out or figure a solution. Their solution is say niceties and appease. I am not sure what the solution(s) may be but the longer we are in a state of denial, the worse the future carnage will be.
    , @German_reader

    Hey, if State of Israel can still be “a beacon of democracy for mankind”
     
    Apart from Americans and some dumb "conservatives" in Europe nobody believes this, Israel's image has suffered a lot.
    And anyway, the situation isn't exactly comparable. I can see how there could be real arguments against Russia giving up the Caucasus (security concerns regarding Islamism; could it lead to separatist movements in other areas and lead to the breakup of the Russian Federation - which might diminish Russia's power in international politics and put it at the mercy of the US), I make no judgment on the matter...but is the Caucasus central to Russian national identity like the territories Israel controls or wants to control are to at least some strains of Zionism? That seems doubtful to me.
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  • @Hector_St_Clare
    The Caucasus should be independent on the grounds that it was forcibly incorporated into Russia in the first place, it's radically different ethnically and culturally, and many Caucasian peoples never recognized legitimacy of Russian conquest in the first place. They need to be made their own countries and separated from Russia proper.

    I'd actually be in favour of partitioning England and possibly countries like Austria as well, cordoning off places like London and Vienna into independent city-states. I don't know enough about Germany to say- liberal immigration policies seem to really be popular there- but if there's enough social division over these issues, maybe partitioning Germany would be a good idea too. possibly along the old East vs. West lines- all the immigrants seem to be in west Germany, more or less.

    You realise that the entire North America was “forcibly incorporated” in Canada&USA?

    There are no nations in North Caucasus. These are primitives, tribals, who never really left early Middle Age.

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  • @Felix Keverich
    There is no Chechnya, or Karelia - these are just names on the map, this whole land is equally Russian, and it's non-negotiable. The land itself is never a drain on resources.

    We do need a strategy to deal with the Chechens (and other ethnic minorities, there is a lot of them in Russia). But it cannot involve surrendering land. That's just dumb!

    you can consistently be in favour of ethnic homogeneity as a goal in defining nationhood, or you can be in favour of ‘power and resources’, but you can’t be both. Unless you want to go the route of 19th century colonialism, and that didn’t end well. (The Nazis and the South Africans represent even unsavoury variations on the same theme).

    This sort of power-worship (and that’s exactly the same phrase that German Reader used to describe Richard Spencer, and I think it perfectly sums up why I consider him so morally dangerous) is really creepy at best, and at worst it can go some very dark places. I have nothing against people wanting to live in relatively homogenous societies made up mostly of people who share common descent, ethnic heritage, more or less similar phenotype, etc.. I favour that goal, wich is why I favour independence for the Caucasus, just like I favoured independence for Pakistan, and also why I favour limiting mass migration into Europe. You want to have your cake and eat it too, by having a large Russia and also one dominated by ethnic Russians.

    I don’t get the obsession with bigness anyway and never have. Most of the world’s large countries would probably be a lot better off if they were smaller, and most of them have smaller neighbors which seem to function much better.

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    Hey, if State of Israel can still be "a beacon of democracy for mankind", while keeping Palestinians in holding pens, then I see no reason why this solution can't be replicated here. I'm not saying we should exterminate the Chechens - just keep them safely contained within their reservation so they can't hurt us, treat them like a form of wildlife of something.
    , @sinotibetan
    I share your view ..... that people living in a homogeneous nation(phenotype + culture - wise) is preferable to multiethnic states( especially when the different ethnicities have visibly different phenotypes and culturally different). Hence a state like Sweden should have remained monoethnic(with perhaps a very small Saami minority plus other Scandinavians like Finns and Norwegians who could have assimilated well) ...too bad their political elites(and population) think otherwise. The scientific + technological + economic success of generally 'monoethnic' Japan(and South Korea) is proof that the current Western mantra multiculturalism and/or multiethnicalism = progress is nonsense. The great scientific progress of the 18th till early/mid 20th Century in Europe occured in rather homogenous societies(the migrant nationalities were majority still assimiliable Europeans).
    Most multicultural or multiethnic nations currently are due to imperialistic adventures of the great powers of the past(either nations subjugated into a bigger empire or ethnic groups forced by an imperial power to migrate to a foreign colony etc.)
    And I agree.... sometimes we cannot have both: a homogenous society but authority and power over homelands of subjugated nations. Tibet and Xinjiang( and to a lesser extend Nei Monggol) for the Chinese; the North Caucasian republics for the Russians.
    Yet at the same time, I think I can understand Felix's feelings on this issue. 'Based on history...these Caucasian areas were incorporated into Russia. They are part of Russia. Why should Russia give them up?'. For the Chinese , 'giving up' Tibet , Xinjiang and Nei Monggol are even greater territorial loss than all North Caucasus combined. And they have similar reasons as the Russians to hold on to these territories - that these regions were within the grip of the Qing dynasty(even though the emperors of this dynasty were not even ethnic Han Chinese).
    I have laid down some of my guess(in another thread in this blog) why Russia doesnt just kick the Chechens out. It perhaps boils down to geopolitics at play...
    Another thing I notice is the majority of Russian people(including 'ultranationalists') do not seem to have issues with say Volga Finns or Buddhist Asians like Buryats or Tyvans(despite their northeast Asian phenotypes and different cultures). My guess is these groups are fine with respecting the dominance of Russians ethnically and culturally. Whereas groups like Chechens or migrant groups like Tajiks compete for this dominance - partly due to their own inherent 'ethnic pride' combined with the religion of Islam. I think these 2 almost always precipitates violence and visciousness. One can compare Tibetan separatism vs Uyghur separatism and note the relative levels of violence lead to a common denominator - Islam.
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  • @Felix Keverich
    I seriously question the underlying logic here:

    On what basis should the Caucasus be independent?

    Do you guys think that western territories with majority non-white populations should become separate countries? Should London become a separate "country"? I hear in some cities in West Germany most of the population under 18 is non-white - so how do you propose we should partition Germany? :)

    The Caucasus should be independent on the grounds that it was forcibly incorporated into Russia in the first place, it’s radically different ethnically and culturally, and many Caucasian peoples never recognized legitimacy of Russian conquest in the first place. They need to be made their own countries and separated from Russia proper.

    I’d actually be in favour of partitioning England and possibly countries like Austria as well, cordoning off places like London and Vienna into independent city-states. I don’t know enough about Germany to say- liberal immigration policies seem to really be popular there- but if there’s enough social division over these issues, maybe partitioning Germany would be a good idea too. possibly along the old East vs. West lines- all the immigrants seem to be in west Germany, more or less.

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    You realise that the entire North America was "forcibly incorporated" in Canada&USA?

    There are no nations in North Caucasus. These are primitives, tribals, who never really left early Middle Age.
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  • @German_reader

    it’s deprives us of power and resources
     
    If I understand Ak correctly, he believes those regions are actually a drain on resources.
    Personally I have no opinion on the matter; it just seems to me Russia hasn't really found a viable long-term strategy for the Caucasus (or at least for Chechnya). Someone like Kadyrov can hardly be considered as reliable and will eventually cause trouble.

    Yeah I try to avoid being overly prescriptive, my readers do that for me well enough.

    Sailer has this down to an art form.

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  • @German_reader
    That sounds like a rather extreme position...and what kind of a strategy for ethnic minorities are you thinking of? You can't just forcibly Russify all of them, let alone just expel or kill them. That would be very bad pr for Russia.
    Anyway, I'd like to read AK's ideas for how to deal with those problematic regions.

    Anyway, I’d like to read AK’s ideas for how to deal with those problematic regions.

    AK hasn’t gone there AFAIK. He did say that one could be an atheist as long as one was a Russian Ortodox atheist.

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  • @German_reader
    That sounds like a rather extreme position...and what kind of a strategy for ethnic minorities are you thinking of? You can't just forcibly Russify all of them, let alone just expel or kill them. That would be very bad pr for Russia.
    Anyway, I'd like to read AK's ideas for how to deal with those problematic regions.

    I already outlined my strategy for North Caucasus – Israeli style apartheid. We don’t need to Russify the natives, we just need to restrain their movement; keep them from infesting Russian cities.

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  • @Felix Keverich
    There is no Chechnya, or Karelia - these are just names on the map, this whole land is equally Russian, and it's non-negotiable. The land itself is never a drain on resources.

    We do need a strategy to deal with the Chechens (and other ethnic minorities, there is a lot of them in Russia). But it cannot involve surrendering land. That's just dumb!

    That sounds like a rather extreme position…and what kind of a strategy for ethnic minorities are you thinking of? You can’t just forcibly Russify all of them, let alone just expel or kill them. That would be very bad pr for Russia.
    Anyway, I’d like to read AK’s ideas for how to deal with those problematic regions.

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    I already outlined my strategy for North Caucasus - Israeli style apartheid. We don't need to Russify the natives, we just need to restrain their movement; keep them from infesting Russian cities.
    , @iffen
    Anyway, I’d like to read AK’s ideas for how to deal with those problematic regions.

    AK hasn't gone there AFAIK. He did say that one could be an atheist as long as one was a Russian Ortodox atheist.
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  • @German_reader

    it’s deprives us of power and resources
     
    If I understand Ak correctly, he believes those regions are actually a drain on resources.
    Personally I have no opinion on the matter; it just seems to me Russia hasn't really found a viable long-term strategy for the Caucasus (or at least for Chechnya). Someone like Kadyrov can hardly be considered as reliable and will eventually cause trouble.

    There is no Chechnya, or Karelia – these are just names on the map, this whole land is equally Russian, and it’s non-negotiable. The land itself is never a drain on resources.

    We do need a strategy to deal with the Chechens (and other ethnic minorities, there is a lot of them in Russia). But it cannot involve surrendering land. That’s just dumb!

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    That sounds like a rather extreme position...and what kind of a strategy for ethnic minorities are you thinking of? You can't just forcibly Russify all of them, let alone just expel or kill them. That would be very bad pr for Russia.
    Anyway, I'd like to read AK's ideas for how to deal with those problematic regions.
    , @Hector_St_Clare
    you can consistently be in favour of ethnic homogeneity as a goal in defining nationhood, or you can be in favour of 'power and resources', but you can't be both. Unless you want to go the route of 19th century colonialism, and that didn't end well. (The Nazis and the South Africans represent even unsavoury variations on the same theme).

    This sort of power-worship (and that's exactly the same phrase that German Reader used to describe Richard Spencer, and I think it perfectly sums up why I consider him so morally dangerous) is really creepy at best, and at worst it can go some very dark places. I have nothing against people wanting to live in relatively homogenous societies made up mostly of people who share common descent, ethnic heritage, more or less similar phenotype, etc.. I favour that goal, wich is why I favour independence for the Caucasus, just like I favoured independence for Pakistan, and also why I favour limiting mass migration into Europe. You want to have your cake and eat it too, by having a large Russia and also one dominated by ethnic Russians.

    I don't get the obsession with bigness anyway and never have. Most of the world's large countries would probably be a lot better off if they were smaller, and most of them have smaller neighbors which seem to function much better.
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  • @Felix Keverich
    As a Russian, I don't see it that way. And I don't like surrendering territory: it's deprives us of power and resources, and it solves absolutely nothing (just look at what happened with Central Asia).

    it’s deprives us of power and resources

    If I understand Ak correctly, he believes those regions are actually a drain on resources.
    Personally I have no opinion on the matter; it just seems to me Russia hasn’t really found a viable long-term strategy for the Caucasus (or at least for Chechnya). Someone like Kadyrov can hardly be considered as reliable and will eventually cause trouble.

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    There is no Chechnya, or Karelia - these are just names on the map, this whole land is equally Russian, and it's non-negotiable. The land itself is never a drain on resources.

    We do need a strategy to deal with the Chechens (and other ethnic minorities, there is a lot of them in Russia). But it cannot involve surrendering land. That's just dumb!
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Yeah I try to avoid being overly prescriptive, my readers do that for me well enough.

    Sailer has this down to an art form.
    , @The Big Red Scary
    " Someone like Kadyrov can hardly be considered as reliable and will eventually cause trouble."

    This article discusses how complicated the situation is:

    https://gordonhahn.com/2017/05/05/chechnya-russias-black-hole-putins-achilles-heel-complete-version-parts-1-and-2/

    I'd like to make a general caveat, however, which is that while there is good reason to be concerned about this and other problems, one somehow has to estimate the magnitude of a problem before
    choosing a course of action, and I see very few attempts at such estimation, with this or any other scary problem. An expert on Caucasian extremism, like Gordon Hahn, might be particularly prone to over-estimating the threat from his subject of expertise.
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  • I strongly suspect that perhaps even some of your neighbors in your apartment building are subsidizing some of your other neighbors – what the fuck? The time has come for super-productive high-IQ individuals to leave this rotten place full of lazy mediocre bastards — and move to beautiful Galt’s Gulch already! Enough is enough.

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  • @German_reader

    Should London become a separate “country”? I hear in some cities in West Germany most of the population under 18 is non-white – so how do you propose we should partition Germany?
     
    In effect something like this might eventually happen, large parts of Britain and Germany won't be "British" or "German" in any meaningful way anyway. Arguably it might even be better for patriots if they wouldn't have to live in a common state with more "diverse" and "cosmopolitan" areas...I mean, is London still England? Does it have a beneficial effect on the rest of England?
    But anyway, you can't really compare regions that have been English or German since the 10th century or longer and whose loss to foreigners is incredibly painful on an emotional level to colonial territories Russia conquered only in the 19th century.

    As a Russian, I don’t see it that way. And I don’t like surrendering territory: it’s deprives us of power and resources, and it solves absolutely nothing (just look at what happened with Central Asia).

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    it’s deprives us of power and resources
     
    If I understand Ak correctly, he believes those regions are actually a drain on resources.
    Personally I have no opinion on the matter; it just seems to me Russia hasn't really found a viable long-term strategy for the Caucasus (or at least for Chechnya). Someone like Kadyrov can hardly be considered as reliable and will eventually cause trouble.
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  • @Cyrano
    You a probably right. I was just trying to be funny.

    I know :-)
    I still wonder about “Caucasians” though, its continuing use for “whites” seems to be pecular to the US (which is odd since its origins in that sense lie with 19th century racial theories which don’t fit at all with the present intellectual climate in the US).

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  • @German_reader

    They are afraid that the Caucasians might sue the white race for copyright violations for using the term Caucasians to describe their race.
     
    Does anybody apart from Americans actually still use "Caucasians" in the sense of "whites"? I don't know about Russia, but as far as I can tell it isn't commonly used that way in continental Europe, or even in Britain.

    You a probably right. I was just trying to be funny.

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    I know :-)
    I still wonder about "Caucasians" though, its continuing use for "whites" seems to be pecular to the US (which is odd since its origins in that sense lie with 19th century racial theories which don't fit at all with the present intellectual climate in the US).
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  • @Felix Keverich
    I seriously question the underlying logic here:

    On what basis should the Caucasus be independent?

    Do you guys think that western territories with majority non-white populations should become separate countries? Should London become a separate "country"? I hear in some cities in West Germany most of the population under 18 is non-white - so how do you propose we should partition Germany? :)

    Should London become a separate “country”? I hear in some cities in West Germany most of the population under 18 is non-white – so how do you propose we should partition Germany?

    In effect something like this might eventually happen, large parts of Britain and Germany won’t be “British” or “German” in any meaningful way anyway. Arguably it might even be better for patriots if they wouldn’t have to live in a common state with more “diverse” and “cosmopolitan” areas…I mean, is London still England? Does it have a beneficial effect on the rest of England?
    But anyway, you can’t really compare regions that have been English or German since the 10th century or longer and whose loss to foreigners is incredibly painful on an emotional level to colonial territories Russia conquered only in the 19th century.

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    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    As a Russian, I don't see it that way. And I don't like surrendering territory: it's deprives us of power and resources, and it solves absolutely nothing (just look at what happened with Central Asia).
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  • @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader: In regards to security issues, Russia (and the West) could still maintain security cooperation with the leaders of newly independent Caucasian states, no?

    Plus, if things become really bad, can't Russia simply invade these states and implement regime change there?

    I seriously question the underlying logic here:

    On what basis should the Caucasus be independent?

    Do you guys think that western territories with majority non-white populations should become separate countries? Should London become a separate “country”? I hear in some cities in West Germany most of the population under 18 is non-white – so how do you propose we should partition Germany? :)

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    Should London become a separate “country”? I hear in some cities in West Germany most of the population under 18 is non-white – so how do you propose we should partition Germany?
     
    In effect something like this might eventually happen, large parts of Britain and Germany won't be "British" or "German" in any meaningful way anyway. Arguably it might even be better for patriots if they wouldn't have to live in a common state with more "diverse" and "cosmopolitan" areas...I mean, is London still England? Does it have a beneficial effect on the rest of England?
    But anyway, you can't really compare regions that have been English or German since the 10th century or longer and whose loss to foreigners is incredibly painful on an emotional level to colonial territories Russia conquered only in the 19th century.
    , @Hector_St_Clare
    The Caucasus should be independent on the grounds that it was forcibly incorporated into Russia in the first place, it's radically different ethnically and culturally, and many Caucasian peoples never recognized legitimacy of Russian conquest in the first place. They need to be made their own countries and separated from Russia proper.

    I'd actually be in favour of partitioning England and possibly countries like Austria as well, cordoning off places like London and Vienna into independent city-states. I don't know enough about Germany to say- liberal immigration policies seem to really be popular there- but if there's enough social division over these issues, maybe partitioning Germany would be a good idea too. possibly along the old East vs. West lines- all the immigrants seem to be in west Germany, more or less.
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  • @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader: In regards to security issues, Russia (and the West) could still maintain security cooperation with the leaders of newly independent Caucasian states, no?

    Plus, if things become really bad, can't Russia simply invade these states and implement regime change there?

    In regards to security issues, Russia (and the West) could still maintain security cooperation with the leaders of newly independent Caucasian states, no?

    Plus, if things become really bad, can’t Russia simply invade these states and implement regime change there?

    But that’s pretty much what has already happened in regard to Chechnya; iirc after the 1st war it became a haven for Islamists terrorising neighbouring areas, which led to the 2nd war…what would be a viable long-term solution?

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  • @German_reader
    What would be your ideal solution, would you like to get rid of the Caucasus republics? But that could be problematic regarding security issues, couldn't it?

    Ideal solution is to keep the territory, get rid of the natives somehow. Of course, the ideal solution isn’t always practical, but we know for a fact that giving them independence will accomplish nothing, as these people will simply move to live in Russian cities, just like Central Asians did.

    Personally, I’m in favor of Israeli style apartheid system for North Caucasus. End all fiscal transfers, keep Caucasians walled off in their mountain regions, restrict their movements across Russia, use overwhelming force if they get rowdy.

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    I suggest labeling them all as gays and sending them to Germany and/or Sweden.
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  • : In regards to security issues, Russia (and the West) could still maintain security cooperation with the leaders of newly independent Caucasian states, no?

    Plus, if things become really bad, can’t Russia simply invade these states and implement regime change there?

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    In regards to security issues, Russia (and the West) could still maintain security cooperation with the leaders of newly independent Caucasian states, no?

    Plus, if things become really bad, can’t Russia simply invade these states and implement regime change there?
     

    But that's pretty much what has already happened in regard to Chechnya; iirc after the 1st war it became a haven for Islamists terrorising neighbouring areas, which led to the 2nd war...what would be a viable long-term solution?
    , @Felix Keverich
    I seriously question the underlying logic here:

    On what basis should the Caucasus be independent?

    Do you guys think that western territories with majority non-white populations should become separate countries? Should London become a separate "country"? I hear in some cities in West Germany most of the population under 18 is non-white - so how do you propose we should partition Germany? :)
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  • @Cyrano
    I think that the subsidies to the Caucasus by the Russians are hush money. They are afraid that the Caucasians might sue the white race for copyright violations for using the term Caucasians to describe their race.

    Then if the courts rule in favor of the geographical Caucasians, the white race might be left feeling the whiter shade of pale – totally confused about their identity, and who knows, they might even start to call themselves multiculturalists.

    They are afraid that the Caucasians might sue the white race for copyright violations for using the term Caucasians to describe their race.

    Does anybody apart from Americans actually still use “Caucasians” in the sense of “whites”? I don’t know about Russia, but as far as I can tell it isn’t commonly used that way in continental Europe, or even in Britain.

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    You a probably right. I was just trying to be funny.
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  • I think that the subsidies to the Caucasus by the Russians are hush money. They are afraid that the Caucasians might sue the white race for copyright violations for using the term Caucasians to describe their race.

    Then if the courts rule in favor of the geographical Caucasians, the white race might be left feeling the whiter shade of pale – totally confused about their identity, and who knows, they might even start to call themselves multiculturalists.

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    They are afraid that the Caucasians might sue the white race for copyright violations for using the term Caucasians to describe their race.
     
    Does anybody apart from Americans actually still use "Caucasians" in the sense of "whites"? I don't know about Russia, but as far as I can tell it isn't commonly used that way in continental Europe, or even in Britain.
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  • Hmm:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/04/chechen-leader-ramzan-kadyrov-odds-russia-calls-protests-killings/

    I guess that pan-Islamic activism is a pretty big negative when weighed against Kadyrov’s “positives” like his harsh words against homos…

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  • I believe this was also the situation with the USSR.

    Offhand, I’d guess it is all dwarfed by the domestic subsidies of ethnic groups in the West. I wouldn’t be surprised if Puerto Rico ultimately cost the US a lot more than the non-Russian republics cost Russia.

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  • What would be your ideal solution, would you like to get rid of the Caucasus republics? But that could be problematic regarding security issues, couldn’t it?

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    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    Ideal solution is to keep the territory, get rid of the natives somehow. Of course, the ideal solution isn't always practical, but we know for a fact that giving them independence will accomplish nothing, as these people will simply move to live in Russian cities, just like Central Asians did.

    Personally, I'm in favor of Israeli style apartheid system for North Caucasus. End all fiscal transfers, keep Caucasians walled off in their mountain regions, restrict their movements across Russia, use overwhelming force if they get rowdy.
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  • In the aftermath of the 2011 Duma elections, the Russian blogosphere was abuzz with allegations of electoral fraud. Many of these were anecdotal or purely rhetorical in nature; some were more concrete, but variegated or ambiguous. A prime example of these were opinion polls and exit polls, which variably supported and contradicted the Kremlin's claims...
  • […] fraudes et les importantes manifestations qui ont eu lieu après les élections législatives de 2011,  pendant  l’hiver 2011-2012, on […]

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  • After a long break, a new contribution to the Experts Panel: Western journalists have been in the business of dismissing Russian achievements and magnifying Russian failures ever since Putin drove them into a collective derangement syndrome - he even haunts their dreams, as recently revealed by the Guardian's Shaun Walker - so the preemptive besmirching...
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    We were in Sochi last week. The logistical achievement, particularly in the Mountain Cluster, was mind-boggling. We appreciated the mild temps in the coastal area. Our stay in seaside Adler, well away from the Disneyland where most journalists appear to have been billeted and from which they rarely seemed to venture, was wonderful. Sochi was a brilliant choice. The agenda-based reportage that spooked potential visitors into staying home from the Games is shameful.

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  • There is always room for debate whether money spent on one project might be better spent on another. For what it’s worth my personal view is that a long term investment that develops Sochi into a major tourist and services hub in a way that will provide a long term boost to the economy of the northern Caucasus is money that is better spent than the same amount of money spent on space programmes. It is not as if Russia is neglecting its space programme. Work on the Vostochny cosmodrome is proceeding, the GLONASS system seems to be (finally!) approaching fruition and it seems a new manned space vehicle to replace the Soyuz is in development. I am not a scientist or a technologist but my feeling is that space research basically reached a technological plateau some time around the mid 1970s and I doubt there is much to be gained by artificially boosting investment in this area above the levels it is attracting at the moment.

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  • @Drutten
    They are ramping up their space explorations effort as well, with numerous big projects (for example, the Luna programme has been restarted after a 38 year hiatus, and Roscosmos has partnered with ESA on future Mars and Jupiter missions, including a Ganymede lander mission).

    And mind you, Russia is without compare the world leader in spaceflight as it is. Typically, they conduct almost twice as many space missions per year as the runner-up (which is usually the USA, but it was China in 2011 I reckon). And adding to that, Russia is the only nation that conducts scheduled manned space launches and such (and the US is completely in their hands until at least 2018!). China has the capability too, but they're not as experienced and as for now they're busy trying to accomplish various landmark achievements that the US and Russia did and grew tired of some 30-40 years ago.

    However, in terms of prestige and return, spaceflight is not what it used to be, especially not in the eyes of the general public - and that's where it matters in this particular context. It's not worthless by any means, but if it were between overhauling Sochi and spending the same money on some spaceflight endeavour my vote would definitely go to Sochi.

    Karlin has touched upon a few of the aspects, but there are many more. Sochi is slated to host the G8 meeting this summer, and later this year it will also host the first Russian Formula One Grand Prix in a 100 years (yeah, right on the mark), be a host of some FIFA WC 2018 games and so on. It's a truly massive project, the Olympics themselves being but a small part.

    It benefits the region enormously, and it will benefit Russia as a whole too. Basically it's a huge leap, to use a spacefaring cliché, and an overt milestone in post-Soviet Russia development.

    “However, in terms of prestige and return, spaceflight is not what it used to be…”

    That’s because the projects have gotten smaller, less ambitious. A return to big projects would ramp up the prestige. A Lunar colony, a Martian colony, a space elevator, sending a probe to Europa and looking for life under its ice – stuff like that would make as much noise now as the Soviet and American successes of 1957 – 1969 did then. The returns of such projects would be long-term international prestige and self-confidence. One positive side effect would be the reversal of some of the brain drain of the 1990s.

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  • @Glossy
    I wish Russia spent this money on space exploration instead. It would have gotten more international prestige out of it, and this prestige would have been longer-lasting. Almost any country can put on an Olympics. Even Brazil. Russia is the only country on Earth that could return to space in a big way. The US and the EU are bankrupt, and China only ever copies.

    They are ramping up their space explorations effort as well, with numerous big projects (for example, the Luna programme has been restarted after a 38 year hiatus, and Roscosmos has partnered with ESA on future Mars and Jupiter missions, including a Ganymede lander mission).

    And mind you, Russia is without compare the world leader in spaceflight as it is. Typically, they conduct almost twice as many space missions per year as the runner-up (which is usually the USA, but it was China in 2011 I reckon). And adding to that, Russia is the only nation that conducts scheduled manned space launches and such (and the US is completely in their hands until at least 2018!). China has the capability too, but they’re not as experienced and as for now they’re busy trying to accomplish various landmark achievements that the US and Russia did and grew tired of some 30-40 years ago.

    However, in terms of prestige and return, spaceflight is not what it used to be, especially not in the eyes of the general public – and that’s where it matters in this particular context. It’s not worthless by any means, but if it were between overhauling Sochi and spending the same money on some spaceflight endeavour my vote would definitely go to Sochi.

    Karlin has touched upon a few of the aspects, but there are many more. Sochi is slated to host the G8 meeting this summer, and later this year it will also host the first Russian Formula One Grand Prix in a 100 years (yeah, right on the mark), be a host of some FIFA WC 2018 games and so on. It’s a truly massive project, the Olympics themselves being but a small part.

    It benefits the region enormously, and it will benefit Russia as a whole too. Basically it’s a huge leap, to use a spacefaring cliché, and an overt milestone in post-Soviet Russia development.

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    "However, in terms of prestige and return, spaceflight is not what it used to be..."

    That's because the projects have gotten smaller, less ambitious. A return to big projects would ramp up the prestige. A Lunar colony, a Martian colony, a space elevator, sending a probe to Europa and looking for life under its ice - stuff like that would make as much noise now as the Soviet and American successes of 1957 - 1969 did then. The returns of such projects would be long-term international prestige and self-confidence. One positive side effect would be the reversal of some of the brain drain of the 1990s.

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  • I wish Russia spent this money on space exploration instead. It would have gotten more international prestige out of it, and this prestige would have been longer-lasting. Almost any country can put on an Olympics. Even Brazil. Russia is the only country on Earth that could return to space in a big way. The US and the EU are bankrupt, and China only ever copies.

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    They are ramping up their space explorations effort as well, with numerous big projects (for example, the Luna programme has been restarted after a 38 year hiatus, and Roscosmos has partnered with ESA on future Mars and Jupiter missions, including a Ganymede lander mission).

    And mind you, Russia is without compare the world leader in spaceflight as it is. Typically, they conduct almost twice as many space missions per year as the runner-up (which is usually the USA, but it was China in 2011 I reckon). And adding to that, Russia is the only nation that conducts scheduled manned space launches and such (and the US is completely in their hands until at least 2018!). China has the capability too, but they're not as experienced and as for now they're busy trying to accomplish various landmark achievements that the US and Russia did and grew tired of some 30-40 years ago.

    However, in terms of prestige and return, spaceflight is not what it used to be, especially not in the eyes of the general public - and that's where it matters in this particular context. It's not worthless by any means, but if it were between overhauling Sochi and spending the same money on some spaceflight endeavour my vote would definitely go to Sochi.

    Karlin has touched upon a few of the aspects, but there are many more. Sochi is slated to host the G8 meeting this summer, and later this year it will also host the first Russian Formula One Grand Prix in a 100 years (yeah, right on the mark), be a host of some FIFA WC 2018 games and so on. It's a truly massive project, the Olympics themselves being but a small part.

    It benefits the region enormously, and it will benefit Russia as a whole too. Basically it's a huge leap, to use a spacefaring cliché, and an overt milestone in post-Soviet Russia development.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    How would ordinary westerners react if somebody was caught preying on children with propaganda for depraved and degenerated US lifestyles? Can´t children just be left alone, just being children? I think they would like it as much as they would like to have Jimmie Savile´s lurking around, no matter what the political correctness of their regimes.

    About the Olympics. If we see this in a wider context including the increasing and extreme anti-russian propaganda the Americans are drumming up in every media, their and Soros obvious attempts to instigate civil war in Ukraine, the Volgograd bombings and Obama´s speech. Is it just me or don´t you also get a creepy feeling that they are planning something that might involve all the above mentioned in some sort of climax? On a nod from Washington, Georgia started the onslaught on South Ossetia and used the shadow of the Olympic´s trying to get away with it. Im not happy at all that the Russians accepted US “help” in Sochi, that is certainly not an insurance that they and Bandar bin Chimpanzee wont try something, rather the opposite

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  • Is discussed at the other blog. To add a couple of things that are Russia specific: (1) We now learn that the FBI had interviewed the older brother at the bequest of an unspecific foreign government – almost certainly Russia. Tamerlan had visited it for 6 months in 2011. I wonder if he established links...
  • More interesting information regarding Uncle Ruslan his Congress of Chechen International run out of his then wife’s CIA agent Fullers house linking it to the notorious terrorist front NGO The Benevolence Foundation and British energy company for British oil interests in Kazakhstan.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/scandals/2013/05/boston-bombers-uncle-aided-chechanterrorists-for-cia-2431240.html?currentSplittedPage=0

    US v. Benevolence International Foundation, et al

    http://www.investigativeproject.org/case/106

    Ruslan Tsarni (Tsarnaev Uncle) Documents

    http://cryptome.org/2013/04/ruslan-tsarni.zip

    Graham Fuller/NY Times 1985-2011 (Ex-CIA-Tsarni)

    http://cryptome.org/2013/04/graham-fuller.zip

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  • @Mr. X
    I would only add a few things here, now some weeks removed from the events:

    1) The 'ex' CIA founded/run Jamestown Foundation has vigorously denied that Tamerlane T. ever visited any of their conferences, which is to be expected, and they also note that the godfather of the "Grand Chessboard" strategy of permanently keeping Russia down Z. Bzrezinski is no longer on their board. The former is a response to an article published in Izvestia, the latter almost seems to me a response to the online critics of Jamestown that it's an Amerikansky silovik front for Prometheanism and other strategies of subversion in the former Soviet space.

    2) I saw Michael D. Weiss joked on Twitter that if Menatep Bank was paying for his new Russian translations mag than he wasn't getting paid. Ahem, his paychecks come from the Qataris these days not the empty Khodorkovsky/Berezovsky cupboard. In any case, having previously asked him sarcastically why he doesn't just strap on a suicide vest and go out with a bang alongside his glorious Syrian jihadist brothers, I won't commence further trolling and am thoroughly done with Twitter.

    3) The feds in Boston have finally caught up with reality that few folks find it credible that the brothers acted entirely alone. The White House has doubled down on the Saudi kid being a totally innocent bystander after the photos of Michelle O visiting Al-Harbi (who comes from a terror watch listed family in KSA) in the hospital leaked. The Saudis then released their own 'leak' to the Daily Mail insisting that they warned BigSis, who denies getting any written warning from KSA about Tsaernaev. Score one for Glenn Beck and no wonder the Establishment is so pissed with Beck and Brother Alex right now you don't expose to what extent the Saudis (and their co-Syria jihad funders the Qataris) own Washington it's a big no-no.

    4) Alt media outlets now reporting that Uncle Ruslan was married to the daughter of an American silovik/ex-Reagan Admin spook who resides in Maryland and did some legal work for Kazahks who paid a huge kickback to Prince Andrew by paying gazillions for his overvalued UK real estate. Uncle Ruslan was also allegedly involved in a Chechen compatriots org that raised money for boots during the mid-1990s bound for the Chechen jihadists. The Debka theory that Tamerlane was recruited than turned on his handlers grows more credible...and now that the mother of Tamerlane is saying her son was in regular contact with FBI who monitored his web usage for five years they're all a pack of liars as far as the SWP hive mind is concerned. But of course. Musn't admit at the very least the feds spectacularly dropped the ball on monitoring 'their' informants.

    Part 4 is the most interesting about Fullers daughter marrying the uncle and running a pro-Chechen organisation out of his house something myself and Sibel Edmonds have been saying and covering for years about support and trafficking of Islamic terrorism in Russia and Central Asia including back in 2008 on Karlin own Sublime Oblivion forum at real at is phoney “war on terror” actually is offshoot of Islamic groups that have been recruited and allowed to recruit, promote, finance Muslims to fight in the Balkans, Russia and Central Asia so they can bring that Caspian oil and gas through the Caucasus, Turkey, the Balkans into Europe making Turkey the predominant regional player essentially creating a pan-Turanian Empire.

    http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1727

    “Most recently, his provocative statement last month that Bosnia and Herzegovina is in the care of his country has caused no reaction in Washington. Bosnia and Herzegovina is entrusted to us, stated Erdoan during a meeting of Justice and Development Party (AK Party) provincial heads held in Ankara on July 11, recalling the alleged statement of the late Bosnian Muslim leader, Alija Izetbegovi, whom Erdoan visited on his deathbed in Sarajevo. He whispered in my ear these phrases: Bosnia is entrusted to you [Turkey]. These places are what remain of the Ottoman Empire, said Erdoan. He went on to describe Izetbegovi as a legendary hero and captain, and to declare that Turkey would put this trust in God with high precision.”

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  • @Alexander Mercouris
    There is NO POSSIBILITY that Putin or anyone in the Russian government was in any way responsible for the mayhem in Boston. The idea is absurd. Quite apart from anything else, since when has Putin sought US permission or approval to do what needs to be done in Chechnya and the northern Caucasus?

    Way back in 2001 I made a comment to the one Russian friend I had at that time. I pointed out to him that during the whole history of the Cold War and of the entire East West confrontation the USSR had never launched or contemplated launching a terrorist attack on US territory. I remember how utterly horrified he was at the mere idea. I also pointed out that the 2001 attacks showed that Russia has never been the US's implacable enemy in the way some of the militant jihadi groups are. I pointed out that the US regularly colluded with these groups because of their anti Russian policies (eg. in Afghanistan and Chechnya) and that the 2001 attacks showed that it was purest folly to go on doing so out of some sort of idiot principle that "my enemy's enemy is my friend". He agreed with that too. He was quite a liberal Russian back then (not any more). Obviously Russian liberalism has travelled a lot further down on the road towards becoming a lunatic fringe since then.

    Prior to 9/11 Russia was giving the US/West from intelligence it was gathering from the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance that it helped create and support and Putin was pushing for military action while Taliban representative was trying to have diplomatic talks in the US and with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia trying to get CIA connected oil firm UNOCAL to be part of the oil consortium in 97 that was helping fund the Taliban regime and keeping it in power.

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  • Mr. X says: • Website

    I would only add a few things here, now some weeks removed from the events:

    1) The ‘ex’ CIA founded/run Jamestown Foundation has vigorously denied that Tamerlane T. ever visited any of their conferences, which is to be expected, and they also note that the godfather of the “Grand Chessboard” strategy of permanently keeping Russia down Z. Bzrezinski is no longer on their board. The former is a response to an article published in Izvestia, the latter almost seems to me a response to the online critics of Jamestown that it’s an Amerikansky silovik front for Prometheanism and other strategies of subversion in the former Soviet space.

    2) I saw Michael D. Weiss joked on Twitter that if Menatep Bank was paying for his new Russian translations mag than he wasn’t getting paid. Ahem, his paychecks come from the Qataris these days not the empty Khodorkovsky/Berezovsky cupboard. In any case, having previously asked him sarcastically why he doesn’t just strap on a suicide vest and go out with a bang alongside his glorious Syrian jihadist brothers, I won’t commence further trolling and am thoroughly done with Twitter.

    3) The feds in Boston have finally caught up with reality that few folks find it credible that the brothers acted entirely alone. The White House has doubled down on the Saudi kid being a totally innocent bystander after the photos of Michelle O visiting Al-Harbi (who comes from a terror watch listed family in KSA) in the hospital leaked. The Saudis then released their own ‘leak’ to the Daily Mail insisting that they warned BigSis, who denies getting any written warning from KSA about Tsaernaev. Score one for Glenn Beck and no wonder the Establishment is so pissed with Beck and Brother Alex right now you don’t expose to what extent the Saudis (and their co-Syria jihad funders the Qataris) own Washington it’s a big no-no.

    4) Alt media outlets now reporting that Uncle Ruslan was married to the daughter of an American silovik/ex-Reagan Admin spook who resides in Maryland and did some legal work for Kazahks who paid a huge kickback to Prince Andrew by paying gazillions for his overvalued UK real estate. Uncle Ruslan was also allegedly involved in a Chechen compatriots org that raised money for boots during the mid-1990s bound for the Chechen jihadists. The Debka theory that Tamerlane was recruited than turned on his handlers grows more credible…and now that the mother of Tamerlane is saying her son was in regular contact with FBI who monitored his web usage for five years they’re all a pack of liars as far as the SWP hive mind is concerned. But of course. Musn’t admit at the very least the feds spectacularly dropped the ball on monitoring ‘their’ informants.

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    @Mr. X

    Part 4 is the most interesting about Fullers daughter marrying the uncle and running a pro-Chechen organisation out of his house something myself and Sibel Edmonds have been saying and covering for years about support and trafficking of Islamic terrorism in Russia and Central Asia including back in 2008 on Karlin own Sublime Oblivion forum at real at is phoney "war on terror" actually is offshoot of Islamic groups that have been recruited and allowed to recruit, promote, finance Muslims to fight in the Balkans, Russia and Central Asia so they can bring that Caspian oil and gas through the Caucasus, Turkey, the Balkans into Europe making Turkey the predominant regional player essentially creating a pan-Turanian Empire.

    http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1727

    "Most recently, his provocative statement last month that Bosnia and Herzegovina is in the care of his country has caused no reaction in Washington. Bosnia and Herzegovina is entrusted to us, stated Erdoan during a meeting of Justice and Development Party (AK Party) provincial heads held in Ankara on July 11, recalling the alleged statement of the late Bosnian Muslim leader, Alija Izetbegovi, whom Erdoan visited on his deathbed in Sarajevo. He whispered in my ear these phrases: Bosnia is entrusted to you [Turkey]. These places are what remain of the Ottoman Empire, said Erdoan. He went on to describe Izetbegovi as a legendary hero and captain, and to declare that Turkey would put this trust in God with high precision."

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  • Hard as it is to believe, but in the wake of the Boston Bombings, many Western commentators actively trying to find the roots of the Tsarnaev brothers' rage in Russia's "aggression" or even "genocide" of Chechnya. This is not to deny that Chechens did not have an exceptionally hard time of it in the 1990s....
  • [...] as oppressed victims of big bad Russia” narrative. They ignore the reality that in Chechyna the real ethnic cleansing since the collapse of the Soviet Union has been of ethnic Russ…. There used to be over 250,000 in Chechnya and now there are fewer than [...]

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  • @Anonymous
    The Boston bombing has nothing to do with Chechnya per se. The real issue is that fewer numbers of poorly educated people are needed in modern society. This is leading to unemployment, mass displacements and will lead to extreme levels of global violence and extremism of all stripes as a reaction.

    Russia has made a grave error in cracking down and giving life sentences to your skinheads. They were the leukocytes of Russia. Without them, your land will quickly be submerged. Get used to Islam. You will soon have an Islamic country. The birth and immigration rates and a little bit of simple math will tell the whole story.

    @baaltanit

    Most of the Russian convert to radical Islam are from nationalist/fascist organisations specifically for the purpose of jihad.

    There was an article about this a few years ago on Interfax Religion but I can’t find it.

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  • The americans supports chechen extremists & other russophobes then they asks “Why anti-americanism exists in Russia?”

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  • “it is a simple morality tale of small, plucky Chechnya being repeatedly ravaged by the big, bad Russian imperialist – and it is one that many people, conditioned in appropriate ways for two decades by the Western media, swallow hook, line, and sinker.”

    Yes… it looks like pure reverse spin…we’ll know for sure if and when Obama starts making funny noises about moving the so-called “war on terror” to the Caspian region. IMO means and motive for cultivating terror activity point to others. The intellectual snobs that populate Boston should have figured out by now that something isn’t quite right with Western media.

    http://www.hydrocarbons-technology.com/projects/bp

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  • FINALLY!

    2011-11-14 Юрий Сошин
    Северный Кавказ изнутри. По казачьим районам Чечни
    Часть 1

    Недавно в «Комсомольской правде» был помещен прекрасный репортаж Дмитрия Стешина и Александра Коца об их поездке в Чечню. Посему перепрыгнув через ненаписанные еще свои социологические заметки о более ранних поездках, автор решил «в тему» Стешину и Коцу побыстрее написать о своем путешествии по современной Чеченской республике. Заранее сообщаю будущим критикам на обвинения в «продажности», что записки мои никем не были ангажированы, я старался быть максимально беспристрастным при их написании. Заранее приношу извинения за описательный характер изложения материала.

    2 августа 2011 года я на белой «Волге» пересек границу Чеченской республики со стороны города Моздок. Себя я чувствовал сталкером, въезжал в ЧР с известным страхом, ибо был под впечатлением услышанного на территории КБР за пару дней до въезда рассказа моего приятеля. Содержание этого рассказа приведу в конце заметок.

    Вез меня в Чечню казак-моздокчанин, работающий инженером-электриком в Чечне. Его путь лежал в отдаленные горные районы, где шли монтажные работы. В эти отдаленные районы инженер ехал один и, по его словам, поездка безопасна: «Времена, когда одному было опасно ездить, прошли».

    На границе Чечни и Ставропольского края стояли два капитально укрепленных блокпоста. Сначала ставропольский, через сотню метров чеченский. На чеченском блок-посте был закреплен большой плакат с рекламой фирмы «Вайнахтелеком» и портретами Дмитрия Медведева и Рамзана Кадырова. Портретов и плакатов изображающих отца и сына Кадыровых в дальнейшем встречалось великое множество, и я в дальнейшем не буду на этом особо останавливаться.
    На блокпосту у инженера проверили документы, у меня не проверяли. Как рассказывали мне потом, машины часто тщательно обыскивают в поисках запрещенного к ввозу в ЧР спиртного.

    Первым населенным пунктом, через который мы проехали, был поселок Алпатово. В нем запомнилась высокая и узкая что-то символизирующая триумфальная арка. Под этой аркой стояла девушка в хиджабе. Первая, кроме полицейских, жительница Чечни был в своем облике весьма символична. Далее начался поселок Черноречье. Алпатово и Черноречье в советское время были центрами традиционного для терских казаков виноделия. Делали в Алпатово и Чернокозово марочные вина, а коньяки «Вайнах» и «Илли» не уступали по качеству самым лучшим армянским. Сейчас виноделия в этих поселках, как и во всей республике, нет совсем.

    Инженер привез меня в райцентр, (бывшую?) казачью станицу Наурскую. На въезде в станицу заканчивалась постройка большого стадиона с искусственным покрытием футбольного поля. 2011 год в Ч.Р. был объявлен «Годом Наурского района», а через две недели после моего визита, 15 августа, должен был состояться «Праздник Наурского района», с прибытием на него Рамзана Кадырова. К этому дню готовились тщательно: везде шли работы по ремонту, отделке, покраске всего чего только можно. Но почти все уже было сделано.

    Вся, подчеркиваю вся, Наурская полностью перестроена и переделана. Вокруг домов новые заборы, в основном из эмалевого металлопрофиля, типа «металлочерепицы», везде типичные для горцев железные высоченные ворота. Дома выкрашены краской, крыши все были или новые (та же металлочерепица) или выкрашены. Очень редко и с большим трудом под краской и новой крышей можно было узнать традиционный казачий дом.

    Нигде не было ни одного старого забора, ни одной старой шиферной или черепичной крыши. Сразу бросилось в глаза (вернее бросилось в глаза еще в Алпатово) что весь «видеоряд» хорошо зачищен, в нем уже ничего нет от недавнего славянско-казачьго прошлого станицы. Дома и все причитающееся к ним, выглядело как свежепостроенное горское жилье.

    «По старому» выглядели в Наурской церковь и побеленный домик казачьего правления рядом с ней. Вместе с инженером-электриком мы приехали к церкви, где он меня передал «с рук на руки» атаману Терско-Сунженского окружного казачьего общества Анатолию Михайловичу Черкашину, а затем уехал в чеченские горы.

    Сначала мы пошли на церковную службу. Был церковный праздник, день поминовения пророка Божия Ильи. Церковь, – перестроенное административное здание, – была довольно просторна и хорошо оборудована. На службе было, кроме нас с атаманом, 16 человек: 12 старушек, 3 старика, – один из них инвалид, а так же один ребенок. Служил молодой священник иеромонах Амвросий. После службы пред церковью местные жители, разговаривали с атаманом Черкашиным и священником о своих делах. Слышались совершенно мирные фразы: «Где купить полторы тонны ячменя»? – «В Ищерской один чеченец продает недорого».

    Как сказали жители, власти Чеченской республике наурскому храму сильно помогают. Так лично Рамзан Кадыров дал церкви автомобили ВАЗ 07-й модели и «Газель».

    С Анатолием Михайловичем Черкашиным проходим в здание казачьего правления. Четыре комнаты, слева от входа атаманский кабинет. Простой стол, компьютер, сейф. Интернет подключен, пользуясь, случаем проверяю почту. В соседней комнате рядами стоят скамьи, здесь проводятся собрания. В дальней комнате собрано все для приготовления пищи на большое количество людей: большие кастрюли, сковороды и т.п. Впрочем, долго мы в правлении не задерживаемся, садимся в белую, на этот раз уже атаманскую «Волгу» и едем смотреть Наурскую.
    Первым пунктом было посещение строящегося православного храма и «Памятника наурской казачке». Подъезжаем к большому наглухо заделанному металлическим забором строительному участку. Напротив стройки, в тени дома стоит стул, на котором сидит человек в серебристом камуфляже с автоматом Калашникова. Увидев фотоаппарат, охранник энергично машет руками, протестуя против съемки. Приходится делать фотографии, так выбирая ракурс, чтобы он не попал в кадр.

    Анатолий Черкашин стучит в закрытые изнутри ворота, их изнутри открывают, и мы входим на территорию стройки. Над воротами плакат с изображением будущего храма. За забором стоит вагончик над ним большой простер с изображением Патриарха Кирилла. Перед вагончиком шланг, из него течет вода. Под струей из шланга купается мужчина кавказского вида. Строят православный храм рабочие из Дагестана.

    etc. http://www.apn.ru/publications/article25324.htm

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  • Для чего казаков зовут в Чечню?

    Президент Чечни Алу Алханов заявил, что ждёт в республике всех, кто жил в ней до начала войны. В том числе и русских…

    В КАЗАЧЬИ станицы по обе стороны чеченской границы отправился корреспондент «АиФ».

    В МОЗДОКСКИЙ штаб казаков, расположенный в маленьком домике за школой, привезли новую форму. «В ней мы будем дежурить в школах, которым после Беслана уделяется особое внимание», — рассказывает походный атаман Моздокского отдела Валерий Косенко. Едем смотреть, как охраняются детские учреждения. По дороге нам попадаются два рынка. Один из них — добротный, только что отстроенный, с павильонами, с куполообразной металлической крышей, но пустой. Второй старый, не такой красивый, зато битком набитый народом. «Знаешь, почему? — спрашивает меня казак. — Новый — чеченский, а второй наш. Он так и называется — «Казачий». Все ходят на второй базар. Знаешь, сколько раз мне чеченцы предлагали денег за это название?»

    «Так и живём: детей растим, хлеб сажаем, худо-бедно зарабатываем. Ты лучше к казакам в Чечню съезди. Вот им там приказано: «Выжить!», — взволнованно подытоживает секретарь казачьего штаба Антонина Васильевна.
    Овощи и фрукты — федералам

    ПО ДОРОГЕ в казачьи станицы не увидишь настоящую Чечню: ни тебе сожжённой военной техники, ни развалин домов. Практически всюду аккуратненькие домишки с зелёными или голубыми воротами. О том, что это зона контртеррористической операции, не говорит ничего, кроме бронепоездов, медленно курсирующих между Грозным и Моздоком. Немудрено, что, пережив вторую чеченскую войну в Ставрополье, некоторые казаки, воодушевлённые речами чиновников, вернулись на родину… погибать от бандитских пуль. В 2003 г. бандиты в масках ворвались в дом атамана Николая Ложкина в станице Ищерской, увели его и зверски убили. Труп нашли через неделю недалеко от дома. Ложкин стал восьмым по счёту казачьим атаманом, убитым бандитами за последние годы. До этого бандиты выкрали его маленького сына, которого чудом нашли через два месяца. На следующий год двое в масках ворвались в станице Червлёная в дом атамана Михаила Сенчикова, вывели его за околицу и расстреляли на глазах у семьи.

    «Жалко, такие казачуры были,» — вздыхают, вспоминая погибших, станичники. Вообще же воспоминания — это то, чем живут оставшиеся в сёлах старики. «До первой войны в Надтеречном и Наурском районах Чечни русских проживало около 80%. Когда в 94-м году началась вся канитель, казакам предложили встать на сторону боевиков против федералов. А как мы можем встать, если казаки в Чернокозово в церкви клятву давали на верность Отечеству?» — спрашивает меня станичник дед Ефим.

    Мы с дедом едем мимо пшеничных полей в станицу Калиновская, где стоит полк, в котором отбирают контрактников для службы в Чечне. Наш старенький грузовик забит доверху овощами и фруктами. Дело в том, что станичники шефствуют над военными. Это обычная практика для приграничных станиц. Сейчас они снабжают продуктами 1000 человек, а раньше гоняли целые фуры во многие области России. Внезапно посреди дороги останавливается наглухо затонированная BMW с иностранными номерами, и старик тормозит свой грузовик. Дед крестится, смотрит на меня, бормочет: «Схорониться бы тебе». Но хорониться уже поздно — из-за тёмных стекол на нас смотрит не одна пара глаз. Поэтому, затаив дыхание, ждём. Через пять минут легковая машина исчезает с дороги.
    Нас оставили «до лучших времён»

    ЕФИМ жалеет, что у него с собой гранаты не было, и опять ударяется в воспоминания. На этот раз о походном атамане Иване Ивановиче Аксютенко. Чеченцы знали, что атаман воевал в первую кампанию на стороне федералов, поэтому он всегда ходил с двумя гранатами в кармане. И всё-таки однажды его пытались украсть. Посадили в уазик, в котором он умудрился рвануть лимонки. Его конвоиры услышали стук и успели выпрыгнуть из машины. В результате пострадал только шофёр, а сам Иванович остался живой. Как он потом рассказывал станичникам, думал, что, если в руке взорвёт гранату, крест потом некуда будет положить. Взял и на пол бросил. Позже его всё равно посадили. Потом кубанские казаки обменяли атамана на трёх боевиков. Умер он уже на Ставрополье: сердце слабое было.

    «Им уже ничего не поможет, даже оружие, — делится своим мнением о проблеме казаков чиновник из чеченской администрации, просивший не называть его имени. — В апреле будут выборы глав администраций. Сейчас среди них осталось пятеро русских. После выборов не будет никого».

    Объездив северные станицы Чечни, корреспондент «АиФ» насчитал около 250 оставшихся казаков из 3,5 тысячи, живших там когда-то.

    Сделав выводы после убийств Николая Ложкина и Михаила Сенчикова, оставшиеся казаки никого «в свои ряды» призывать не стали, потому что даже сейчас никто не может поручиться за жизнь тех, кто носит казачьи погоны. «До лучших времён…» — говорит атаман Натура.

    P. S. В администрации президента Чечни «АиФ» сообщили, что переговоры о возвращении казаков из Ставрополья действительно ведутся. Но рабочих мест и жилья для них пока нет.

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  • etc.

    23.05.2003
    Казаки Чечни ищут защиты у Владимира Путина
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    Мария Бондаренко

    Тэги: чечня, казаки, геноцид

    В Чечне продолжается геноцид в отношении русских, начавшийся более десяти лет назад. С 90-х годов из Чечни были изгнаны 300 тыс. русских. В траурном списке – сотни человек, тысячи фактов ограблений и изнасилований. И ни в одном указе правительства России, которые принимались за это время, не заложено механизма защиты русских.

    Только по официальным данным Министерства по делам национальностей РФ, в Чечне с 1991 г. было убито более 21 тыс. русских (не считая погибших в ходе военных действий), захвачено более 100 тыс. квартир и домов, принадлежащих представителям нечеченских этносов, более 46 тыс. человек были фактически превращены в рабов. А сколько русских, не дождавшись выкупа, погибло в подвалах и ямах, мы, наверное, не узнаем никогда. Через несколько дней после освобождения одного из занятых ранее боевиками сел Аргунского ущелья я собственными глазами видела не менее сотни паспортов российских граждан. Где теперь их владельцы?

    В начале нынешнего года в станице Ищерской Наурского района Чечни боевиками был похищен, а затем зверски убит 40-летний атаман Николай Ложкин. Ложкин стал восьмым по счету казачьим атаманом, убитым бандитами за последние годы.

    Расправа над станичником, который был заместителем главы местной администрации, вызвала бурю возмущения среди русского населения республики. Впервые за все время русские провели митинг у могилы атамана. “Мы устали высматривать в “большой” политике Кремля и Грозного хоть что-то, что могли бы расценить как благодарность за пролитую кровь, покалеченные и утраченные жизни, украденное, отобранное имущество и спокойствие за судьбы детей, за непоколебимую преданность Родине”. Это строки из заявления, скрепленного подписями жителей казачьих станиц и отправленного в Москву президенту РФ и в Ростов его полпреду.

    По словам Василия Бондарева, атамана Терского казачьего войска, в ряды которого уже не одно столетие входят и казаки, проживающие в Чечне, до русских никому нет дела – ни на уровне Центра, ни в правительстве республики. В Чечне продолжается отток русского населения с исконных казачьих земель, а отношение к казачеству остается пренебрежительным.

    Больше года прошло, как на территории Чечни был создан Терско-Сунженский казачий округ, призванный объединить оставшихся в Чечне казаков. “Но, несмотря на все наши усилия, – подчеркивает Василий Бондарев, – устав округа не зарегистрирован руководителем Чечни Ахмадом Кадыровым. Вопрос поднимался и в администрации президента РФ, и в представительстве ЮФО. Непробиваемо”.

    Корреспондент “НГ” попыталась выяснить у президентского полпреда Виктора Казанцева, в чем причина такой задержки. Вместо ответа полпред стал распекать “казачку” (так он назвал корреспондента): дескать, знает ли она вообще, что такое казаки┘ Подумаешь, гибнут┘ Вон на территории Ростовской области не меньше людей умирает┘

    А тем временем помощник Ахмада Кадырова 80-летний Григорий Погребной создает оппозиционное традиционным казачьим общинам так называемое “чеченское казачье войско”, которое будет представлять интересы казачества и оставшегося в Чечне русского населения. Погребной уже выдал около 2 тыс. удостоверений “общественного политического войска” чеченцам, в том числе руководящим кадрам республики. Исконные жители казачьих станиц “атамана” Погребного не то что не выбирали, но даже и в глаза не видели. Мало того, казаки возмущены распространяемыми Погребным слухами о том, что казачество Чечни было против референдума по Конституции республики.

    Сегодня в станицах Наурского и Шелковского районов осталось около 17 тыс. русских. “Слышали, что есть федеральная программа возвращения жителей, покинувших наши районы, но реализации ее мы не видим, – говорит атаман Наурской Анатолий Черкашин. – Это может привести к полному вытеснению русских из исконно казачьих станиц”.

    Терское казачество неоднократно обращалось за помощью в Центр. Начиная с 1995 г. казаки писали письма, заявления, жалобы. Ответа ждут до сих пор. Сейчас на казачьих землях в Чечне русские составляют 2%, а еще недавно доля проживающих там казаков достигала 70%. Массовая миграция чеченского населения из горных районов на равнину приводит к вытеснению русских. Только за последние полтора года в станицу Мекенская Наурского района из сел Веденского района переселились около тысячи человек.

    Еще два года назад Виктор Казанцев ставил вопрос о том, чтобы казаки принимали активное участие в восстановлении мирной жизни, говорил о возвращении русских в приграничные станицы. Атаманы готовы приступить к этой работе. Но для этого у них нет ни средств, ни способов, в том числе и поддержки полпредства ЮФО. И не случайно теперь атаманы Терского, Кубанского и Донского казачьих войск не просят поддержки у Виктора Казанцева, а требуют встречи непосредственно с президентом России. “Но такую встречу сначала надо подготовить”, – ответил им Казанцев.

    Семья убитого атамана Николая Ложкина, боясь расправы со стороны боевиков, решила навсегда уехать из Чечни. Казаки Терского войска, собрав деньги, купили ей дом в одном из сел Ставрополья. “Это все, что мы смогли сделать для нашего атамана”, – сказал Василий Бондарев.

    Получить комментарий по данной проблеме у советника президента РФ по вопросам казачества генерал-полковника Геннадия Трошева редакции не удалось. После нескольких попыток дозвониться до самого Геннадия Николаевича его секретарю была сообщена интересующая “НГ” тема и в ответ получено обещание связаться с редакцией, как только у генерала будет время. За несколько дней, видимо, такового не нашлось.

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  • FWIW

    В случае отмены режима контртеррористической операции (КТО) на территории Чечни, контроль над ситуацией в республике готово взять на себя Терское казачье войско. Если КТО будет отменён (на этом активно настаивает президент ЧР Рамзан Кадыров), из Чеченской республики будут выведены практически все подразделения внутренних войск – более 20 тысяч человек.

    «С отменой контртеррористической операции наступит ещё большее спокойствие и мир, – полагает атаман Терского казачьего войска, депутат Государственной думы Ставропольского края Василий Бондарев. – В Чечню сможет приехать каждый, кто захочет, но, тем не менее, ситуацию мы будет держать под контролем, чтобы была обеспечена безопасность».

    Терские казаки заинтересованы в нормализации обстановки в этом регионе, казачьи подразделения принимали активное участие в чеченской военной кампании. «Правительственными наградами были отмечены 98 «ермоловцев», орден Мужества получили 25 казаков, – напоминает атаман Ставропольского казачьего округа Терского казачьего войска Александр Фалько. – Не обошлось и без потерь: в Чечне погибли 45 казаков и 262 получили ранения»

    http://www.rus-obr.ru/days/2405

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  • I know a few years ago Kadyrov was trying to get Terek Cossacks to come back to Chechnya, and I know there are SOME there. I also know they were there in the interwar period, since Chechen teips with connections to them would seek sanctuary from the Ichkerians/Salafists. I hav e no idea how many there are though,

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  • @Anatoly Karlin
    I don't think there's much point in engaging the above user in discussion.

    aha

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  • @jputley
    "any purportedly scholarly work that continues to suggest that the Moscow apartment bombings were the work of Putin and of the FSB is worthless trash and is not worth the paper it’s written on whilst the opinions of the author of such a work are obviously not to be taken seriously"
    You really haven't read the book, have you? I think you demonstrate, by your attitude, that the truth of the events does not really interest you, that your mind was made up a long time ago, and you prefer delusion to reality.

    On one point you are absolutely correct. I did make my mind up about the apartment bombings years ago. As I said took several weeks to research them and I arrived at the clear conclusions I have said.

    As for the book, I did in fact look at the book after you mentioned it in Foyles (I didn’t buy it) and I have also read the full review of the book by Amy Knight, which I found on the internet. There wasn’t a single fact in the book or the review that I could find that was new to me and which I hadn’t come across before. Instead there was the usual tissue of wild assumptions and non sequiturs unsupported by evidence.

    Just one example: the book makes much of rumours about terrorist attacks that were circulating in Moscow before the apartment bombings took place as if this somehow proves foreknowledge of the apartment bombings. However the jihadi movement in the Caucasus already by this time had a long history of terrorist activity so why should it be surprising that there were fears in Moscow of possible terrorist attacks at a time when the jihadis were in the process of carrying out an invasion of Dagestan? The book also makes claims about Yeltsin’s Family, which are entirely unsupported by evidence. It also entirely fails to explain why the FSB would compromise itself by taking the criminal step of planting bombs in apartment buildings in order to help the Family at a time when Yeltsin was both extremely unpopular and about to lose power. This moreover at a time when one of the supposed members of the Family – Berezovsky – had publicly claimed that the FSB wanted to kill him. Lastly the book takes totally on trust “evidence” supposedly provided by various supposed witnesses concerning an incident in Ryazan, which took place several weeks after the bombings and which was simply a case of overreaction by local people, whilst failing to acknowledge the extent to which this “evidence” had become contaminated because of Berezovsky’s interference.

    There is no mystery about the apartment bombings and who was responsible for them and it was not the Russian authorities. The Russian authorities identified all those involved. Most were killed in the subsequent fighting but several were caught and tried in trials that have never been challenged by the European Court of Human Rights. Basayev himself in an interview with Czech radio at the time of the bombings said they were the work of jihadis and he again offered on behalf of the jihadi movement to take formal responsibility for them as part of a peace offer he tried to send to Putin which was carried for him by the Beslan hostage takers. The only persons who are deluded on this issue are those who deny these facts and look for fantastic explanations elsewhere which are in accord with their political prejudices.

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  • @Alexander Mercouris
    Many years ago I had a lengthy argument with someone in Cambridge about the Moscow apartment bombings and I researched for several weeks all the information about them exhaustively. Unfortunately I do not have my notes to hand any more. However there was simply no possible doubt that the Moscow apartment bombings were the work of the jihadi insurgents in the Caucasus. The evidence is overwhelming with all of the individuals involved being identified and a few of them being caught and put on trial and convicted for what they did in cases that the European Court of Human Rights has never expressed any concerns about. Moreover no less a person than Shamil Basayev said at the time in an interview with a Czech radio station that the bombings were the work of jihadis whilst in a handwritten note Basayev gave to the Beslan hostage takers, which was addressed to Putin, Basayev whilst purporting in a rather vague way to distance the jihadis from the Moscow apartment bombings nonetheless offered to take responsibility for them as part of a peace deal. Needless to say Basayev would never have offered to do that if the jihadis had not been responsible for them.

    It was also absolutely clear to me that the person who was most responsible for promoting the myth of Putin's and the FSB's involvement in the Moscow apartment bombings (even if he did not originate it) and who did so as an exercise in pure propaganda was none other than Berezovsky. For what it's worth I have heard from someone who was involved in the Berezovsky v Abramovitch trial (though I cannot confirm this) that even Berezovsky quietly admitted the falsity of the story to his intimates shortly before his death.

    In conclusion any purportedly scholarly work that continues to suggest that the Moscow apartment bombings were the work of Putin and of the FSB is worthless trash and is not worth the paper it's written on whilst the opinions of the author of such a work are obviously not to be taken seriously.

    For the rest, whether ethnically cleansed or not (and there undoubtedly was ethnic cleansing of Russians - I remember television interviews with Chechen militants bragging about it) and though ruled by Kadyrov in his own special way, the indisputable fact is that the jihadi movement in Chechnya has been comprehensively defeated and Chechnya is now once again firmly a republic within the Russian Federation and is basically at peace. As Moscow Exile has pointed out, a Chechen military unit (since disbanded) even participated in the 2008 South Ossetia war. What other country in recent years apart from Russia has succeeded in defeating a jihadi insurgency so completely? None that I can think of. Certainly not the US.

    “any purportedly scholarly work that continues to suggest that the Moscow apartment bombings were the work of Putin and of the FSB is worthless trash and is not worth the paper it’s written on whilst the opinions of the author of such a work are obviously not to be taken seriously”
    You really haven’t read the book, have you? I think you demonstrate, by your attitude, that the truth of the events does not really interest you, that your mind was made up a long time ago, and you prefer delusion to reality.

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    On one point you are absolutely correct. I did make my mind up about the apartment bombings years ago. As I said took several weeks to research them and I arrived at the clear conclusions I have said.

    As for the book, I did in fact look at the book after you mentioned it in Foyles (I didn't buy it) and I have also read the full review of the book by Amy Knight, which I found on the internet. There wasn't a single fact in the book or the review that I could find that was new to me and which I hadn't come across before. Instead there was the usual tissue of wild assumptions and non sequiturs unsupported by evidence.

    Just one example: the book makes much of rumours about terrorist attacks that were circulating in Moscow before the apartment bombings took place as if this somehow proves foreknowledge of the apartment bombings. However the jihadi movement in the Caucasus already by this time had a long history of terrorist activity so why should it be surprising that there were fears in Moscow of possible terrorist attacks at a time when the jihadis were in the process of carrying out an invasion of Dagestan? The book also makes claims about Yeltsin's Family, which are entirely unsupported by evidence. It also entirely fails to explain why the FSB would compromise itself by taking the criminal step of planting bombs in apartment buildings in order to help the Family at a time when Yeltsin was both extremely unpopular and about to lose power. This moreover at a time when one of the supposed members of the Family - Berezovsky - had publicly claimed that the FSB wanted to kill him. Lastly the book takes totally on trust "evidence" supposedly provided by various supposed witnesses concerning an incident in Ryazan, which took place several weeks after the bombings and which was simply a case of overreaction by local people, whilst failing to acknowledge the extent to which this "evidence" had become contaminated because of Berezovsky's interference.

    There is no mystery about the apartment bombings and who was responsible for them and it was not the Russian authorities. The Russian authorities identified all those involved. Most were killed in the subsequent fighting but several were caught and tried in trials that have never been challenged by the European Court of Human Rights. Basayev himself in an interview with Czech radio at the time of the bombings said they were the work of jihadis and he again offered on behalf of the jihadi movement to take formal responsibility for them as part of a peace offer he tried to send to Putin which was carried for him by the Beslan hostage takers. The only persons who are deluded on this issue are those who deny these facts and look for fantastic explanations elsewhere which are in accord with their political prejudices.

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  • @AM
    Actually, a lot of observers believe that the "peace" in Chechnya is very flimys and Kadyrov will fall as soon as Putin dies and/or Moscow stops sending money. For example, see this article titled "Putin’s Medieval Peace Pact in Chechnya" by Ben Judah
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-25/putin-s-medieval-peace-pact-in-chechnya.html
    I'm not sure I agree with this. Seems to me, that Kadyrov might just be the first ever legitimate leader of all the Chechens. Chechens were historically very clannish and thus reluctant to accept any central government, including Chechen one. But now, it seems, it's Kadyrov's Chechnya against the emirate kavkaz types.

    Ben Judah’s hostility to Putin is well established and this article is just another example. As for Kadyrov, the reason Kadyrov comes in for so much criticism from people like Ben Judah is not because his grip on Chechnya is authoritarian (which it is) but because he is pro Russian. Dudayev was much more brutally authoritarian than Kadyrov but came in for almost no criticism at all.

    The article anyway contradicts itself by saying that Chechnya is somehow outside Moscow’s control whilst admitting that it is heavily dependent on Moscow for funds. On the principle of who pays the piper it is Moscow that clearly calls the tune. It is clearly in Moscow’s interest to support Kadyrov, who does seem to enjoy genuine support in Chechnya, but to suggest that this is somehow inconsistent with Moscow having ultimate control is nonsense. As for the lurid claims that Kadyrov operates some sort of gangster network on Putin’s behalf, that claim though often made has no evidence to support it and is actually absurd. By contrast people like Ben Judah have consistently ignored or underplayed the very real evidence of Berezovsky’s use of Chechen gangsters, a subject brought up by Abramovitch in the recent trial in London.

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  • @jputley
    The article by Thor Halvorssen which you have described as vomit-inducing makes reference to "a recently published book about the events by a Stanford University academic," by which he means the important book by John Dunlop entitled "The Moscow Bombings of September 1999: Examinations of Russian Terrorist Attacks at the Onset of Vladimir Putin’s Rule" published in November 2012. I strongly recommend anyone who wants the extraordinary truth to read this excellent book. In her review, Amy Knight wrote: "Dunlop cites Russian journalist Anton Orekh, who made the following observations about the Russian bombings....

    "If those bombings were not accidental in the sequence of events which followed; if, to put it bluntly, they were the work of our [Russian] authorities—then everything will once and forever take its proper place. Then there is not and cannot be an iota of illusion about [the nature of] those who rule us. Then those people are not minor or large-scale swindlers and thieves. Then they are the most terrible of criminals."

    There is not much more to be said. Will your forthcoming book have anything to add for the benefit of future historians?

    As to the reason why 90% of the former Russian population left Chechnya, I would add to Sean Guillory's comment, "the obvious answer why Russians left was because of war in general, not ethnic cleansing in particular" the observation that the results of Putin's "victorious" war against the Chechens have included converting Chechnya from a basically secular society into a lawless and increasingly fundamentalist state in which most Russians would feel alienated. Some victory!

    Mythical Dagestan invasion too, baby? Did you conveniently forget that too. A cake made out of BS is still BS. Fruitcakes out in force on this thread.

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  • @Chrisius Maximus
    Didn't Anatole just do a blog post refuting this position?

    I don’t think there’s much point in engaging the above user in discussion.

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    aha
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  • @Anonymous
    The Boston bombing has nothing to do with Chechnya per se. The real issue is that fewer numbers of poorly educated people are needed in modern society. This is leading to unemployment, mass displacements and will lead to extreme levels of global violence and extremism of all stripes as a reaction.

    Russia has made a grave error in cracking down and giving life sentences to your skinheads. They were the leukocytes of Russia. Without them, your land will quickly be submerged. Get used to Islam. You will soon have an Islamic country. The birth and immigration rates and a little bit of simple math will tell the whole story.

    Didn’t Anatole just do a blog post refuting this position?

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    I don't think there's much point in engaging the above user in discussion.
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  • @Sean Guillory
    Good question. I don't know how the Chechens could ever be regional rivals to the Georgians.

    Especially considering the way Stalin and Ordzhonikidze dealt with the Georgian party organization that was trying to exert their themselves over the balance of power in the Transcaucasian Federation in the 1920s. Then there was the Mengrelian Affair in 1951-52, where Stalin wiped out Beria's influence in Georgia. Stalin was a lot of things, but not a Georgian nationalist. If anything he was a Great Russian nationalist.

    But bigger issue that I have is with Anatoly's chart. It's merely stats without context to make some strange claim of a "genocide" of Russians in Chechnya. I would assume that the big drop in the Russian population between 1989 and 2002 is because many Russians left--partly because of the collapse of the Soviet Union and another because of the devastating war. I would assume that the drop in Russian population has more to do with refugeedom than "genocide"

    I’m not sure how much this counts, but Sergo Beria’s book presents both his father and Stalin as Georgian nationalists. It’s a central theme.

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  • AM says:
    @Alexander Mercouris
    Many years ago I had a lengthy argument with someone in Cambridge about the Moscow apartment bombings and I researched for several weeks all the information about them exhaustively. Unfortunately I do not have my notes to hand any more. However there was simply no possible doubt that the Moscow apartment bombings were the work of the jihadi insurgents in the Caucasus. The evidence is overwhelming with all of the individuals involved being identified and a few of them being caught and put on trial and convicted for what they did in cases that the European Court of Human Rights has never expressed any concerns about. Moreover no less a person than Shamil Basayev said at the time in an interview with a Czech radio station that the bombings were the work of jihadis whilst in a handwritten note Basayev gave to the Beslan hostage takers, which was addressed to Putin, Basayev whilst purporting in a rather vague way to distance the jihadis from the Moscow apartment bombings nonetheless offered to take responsibility for them as part of a peace deal. Needless to say Basayev would never have offered to do that if the jihadis had not been responsible for them.

    It was also absolutely clear to me that the person who was most responsible for promoting the myth of Putin's and the FSB's involvement in the Moscow apartment bombings (even if he did not originate it) and who did so as an exercise in pure propaganda was none other than Berezovsky. For what it's worth I have heard from someone who was involved in the Berezovsky v Abramovitch trial (though I cannot confirm this) that even Berezovsky quietly admitted the falsity of the story to his intimates shortly before his death.

    In conclusion any purportedly scholarly work that continues to suggest that the Moscow apartment bombings were the work of Putin and of the FSB is worthless trash and is not worth the paper it's written on whilst the opinions of the author of such a work are obviously not to be taken seriously.

    For the rest, whether ethnically cleansed or not (and there undoubtedly was ethnic cleansing of Russians - I remember television interviews with Chechen militants bragging about it) and though ruled by Kadyrov in his own special way, the indisputable fact is that the jihadi movement in Chechnya has been comprehensively defeated and Chechnya is now once again firmly a republic within the Russian Federation and is basically at peace. As Moscow Exile has pointed out, a Chechen military unit (since disbanded) even participated in the 2008 South Ossetia war. What other country in recent years apart from Russia has succeeded in defeating a jihadi insurgency so completely? None that I can think of. Certainly not the US.

    Actually, a lot of observers believe that the “peace” in Chechnya is very flimys and Kadyrov will fall as soon as Putin dies and/or Moscow stops sending money. For example, see this article titled “Putin’s Medieval Peace Pact in Chechnya” by Ben Judah

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-25/putin-s-medieval-peace-pact-in-chechnya.html

    I’m not sure I agree with this. Seems to me, that Kadyrov might just be the first ever legitimate leader of all the Chechens. Chechens were historically very clannish and thus reluctant to accept any central government, including Chechen one. But now, it seems, it’s Kadyrov’s Chechnya against the emirate kavkaz types.

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    Ben Judah's hostility to Putin is well established and this article is just another example. As for Kadyrov, the reason Kadyrov comes in for so much criticism from people like Ben Judah is not because his grip on Chechnya is authoritarian (which it is) but because he is pro Russian. Dudayev was much more brutally authoritarian than Kadyrov but came in for almost no criticism at all.

    The article anyway contradicts itself by saying that Chechnya is somehow outside Moscow's control whilst admitting that it is heavily dependent on Moscow for funds. On the principle of who pays the piper it is Moscow that clearly calls the tune. It is clearly in Moscow's interest to support Kadyrov, who does seem to enjoy genuine support in Chechnya, but to suggest that this is somehow inconsistent with Moscow having ultimate control is nonsense. As for the lurid claims that Kadyrov operates some sort of gangster network on Putin's behalf, that claim though often made has no evidence to support it and is actually absurd. By contrast people like Ben Judah have consistently ignored or underplayed the very real evidence of Berezovsky's use of Chechen gangsters, a subject brought up by Abramovitch in the recent trial in London.

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    The Boston bombing has nothing to do with Chechnya per se. The real issue is that fewer numbers of poorly educated people are needed in modern society. This is leading to unemployment, mass displacements and will lead to extreme levels of global violence and extremism of all stripes as a reaction.

    Russia has made a grave error in cracking down and giving life sentences to your skinheads. They were the leukocytes of Russia. Without them, your land will quickly be submerged. Get used to Islam. You will soon have an Islamic country. The birth and immigration rates and a little bit of simple math will tell the whole story.

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    • Replies: @Chrisius Maximus
    Didn't Anatole just do a blog post refuting this position?
    , @johnUK
    @baaltanit

    Most of the Russian convert to radical Islam are from nationalist/fascist organisations specifically for the purpose of jihad.

    There was an article about this a few years ago on Interfax Religion but I can't find it.

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  • @Anonymous
    That was already mentioned here, that the Russian exodus precedes the onset of the war in 1994, That has nothing to do with first war or result of the second.

    IIRC exodus of Chechen intellectual classes also precedes 1994.

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  • @Chrisius Maximus
    Stavropol

    sorry I nwas responding to Sean.

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