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    Congress is on a one-month summer recess. You would think that given the recent turmoil over the bill to eliminate Obamacare and the upcoming debate over tax policy the nation’s legislators would be back in their home districts talking to the voters. Some are, but many are not. “More than fifty” Congressmen are off on...
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    @Willem Hendrik
    Can't help but stand in awe of the jews.
    Taking the biggest kid on the block by the ear and let him pave the way through the international schoolyard, letting him think it is the Russian doing the ear jerking and, on top of that, make him foot the bill too. The pinnacle of diplomacy.

    How can one not admire that?

    Not so admirable when it’s done behind people’s back through lies, dishonesty, suppressing free speech and other basic civil rights, warping cultural values, ruining the lives of millions, killing millions of others, destroying a country that was good, and promoted good over evil in the world, etc.

    An analogy, though much smaller, would be like saying you admired a waiter who, when he is away from you, and hidden behind your back, spits in your burger, clones your credit card and later uses it to rack up hundreds of dollars at Wallyworld. All the while putting on a grin and happily taking your tip when you behave like a good patron.

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  • […] but is something that also will possibly become illegal thanks to Congressional attempts to criminalize such activity. We Americans will stand by mutely as we begin to wonder what has happened to our country. And some […]

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  • @Willem Hendrik
    Can't help but stand in awe of the jews.
    Taking the biggest kid on the block by the ear and let him pave the way through the international schoolyard, letting him think it is the Russian doing the ear jerking and, on top of that, make him foot the bill too. The pinnacle of diplomacy.

    How can one not admire that?

    Yes Sr.
    As Mixtli the Aztec told the Spaniard priests:
    “that you are superior than us is self evident”
    “but that that by itself justified what you had done to us ?

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    Notice the hypocrisy of the Jewish lobby which has long supported Turkey’s denial of its genocide against one million Christian Armenians:

    In other words, the Jewish lobby’s viewpoint:

    Holocaust – It was terrible, awful, unique, so everyone pay attention and pay up or else!

    Armenian genocide – It was not a genocide, and anyway who cares. Christians aren’t as important as Jews.

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  • @MEexpert

    To be a ‘sacred’ book, it is terribly wicked and full of sheer evil. As if written by demons, or demon-possessed folks.
     
    Talmud was written by men. How could it be sacred?

    Talmud was written by men. How could it be sacred?

    This is why I used quotation marks. These books are sacred according to their followers.

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  • Where is the investigation of ISRAELI “collusion in American elections”?!

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/29/how-soon-can-we-get-aipac-owned-traitors-out-of-congress/

    https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=Q05

    How many of YOUR/America’s $4+BILLION in WELFARE given to Israel every year comes back to America in the form of BRIBES to “american” politicians? Traitors voting to give Israel MORE, so they can get bigger BRIBES. .

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/former-us-lawmaker-cynthia-mckinney-says-every-candidate-for-congress-has-to-sign-a-pledge-to-vote-for-supporting-the-military-superiority-of-israel/

    America, the “MASTERBLASTER” from the movie “Thunderdome” a giant moron ridden on and directed by Twisted Jewish Dwarves ……..
    What is good for Israel should be good for America. NO “dual citizen” allowed in government.
    Israel: Three dual-citizen MKs ordered to annul their foreign passports
    by Shahar Ilan – Haaretz – Feb18 2009
    The Central Elections Committee has ordered three Knesset members with dual citizenship to annul their foreign passports by next Tuesday’s swearing-in ceremony, or at least begin steps to cancel them.
    The three lawmakers are Yohanan Plesner of Kadima (who has Danish citizenship), Nitzan Horowitz of Meretz (a Polish citizen) and Yisrael Beiteinu’s Anastasia Michaeli, who holds a Russian passport. The Basic Law on the Knesset states that “a member of Knesset holding an additional citizenship that is not Israeli … will not take the oath of loyalty until he has done everything he can to relinquish it.” -
    Nobody can have loyalty to TWO Nations at the same time. SO nobody with “dual citizenship” should be allowed to hold any post in our government.
    By the way ……. How many CHRISTIANS sit in the Israeli “knesset”? ANY? EVER?
    CHRISTIAN tax dollars bought and paid for Israel —- their knesset should be 50% CHRISTIAN.
    Israel would not EXIST without JESUS CHRIST and the tax dollars of HIS Flock.

    What the Jewish Rabbis think of JESUS “As for Christianity, there is a dispute among Halachic authorities, but the vast majority consider it idolatry as well. Islam, on the other hand, is not considered idolatry.”
    Read that last bit again VERY SLOWLY so the “christianzionists” can follow: “ISLAM, on the other hand, is NOT considered idolatry.” ………..
    “My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” — Benyamin Netanyahu, at the time a former. prime minister”
    “I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government,” Jewish columnist Joel Stein wrote in the Los Angeles Times in December 2008. “I just care that we get to keep running them.”
    A major problem in the USA today is the concept of “dual citizenship”. Until 1968, “dual citizenship” was strictly prohibited. An Eastern European (I forget which country) wanted to vote in his home country’s election without losing his American citizenship. As a result of a lawsuit, the courts ruled in his favor. The Jews took full advantage of this new “right”. As a result, we have forty or so congresscritters and senators who hold “dual nationality” with Israel. In addition, there are thousands of “dual nationality” influential “policy wonks” and others that are infecting MY country’s government that have no allegiance to the USA and have split loyalties, siding with Israel. In addition, there are many “dual nationality” Americans who are in Israel, who have enlisted in the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) in contravention of American law, but are never prosecuted…WHY?? Jews are almost non-existent in the American military, but Jew Americans are overrepresented in the IDF. It is long overdue to prohibit “dual citizenship” and to deport those who will not renounce their foreign citizenship.

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  • Loyalty to Israel and the Jewish people is quite proper if you are Jew in Israel.
    On the other hand considering the contributions by Jews and their allies to the history of mankind it is quite improper for non Jews to be loyal to Jews and Israel. To be loyal means that you are disloyal to your nation and unique race and approve of all the illegal and immoral offences committed by Jews and their fellow travellers including the wars, revolutions, genocides and wicked social engineering projects which are legion and legendary. It is time for humanity to wake up and smell the non kosher coffee and defend their own interests as well as see the world as it really is. No more sleep walking to one’s doom in the Jewtrix.

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  • @white noise

    The Holocaust tragedy (stopped by the Soviet army, by the way) was a minor episode in comparison to the horrors inflicted by the Bolshevik government on Russia. Is this clear? There were scores of very talented Jewish artists, political activists, and professionals who fell victims to the Bolshevik regime. Like any ethnic group, Jews include both decent people and scoundrels. The same is true for any other people, particularly Germans who have contributed mightily to the world civilization. The sooner Israel stops squeaking about “special victimhood” and the bestest morality of Jewish people, the sooner people stop questioning both the victimhood and morality with the documented facts like the terrifying facts of Bolshevik revolution.
     
    " Like any ethnic group, Jews include both decent people and scoundrels. " - Certainly. But there are a lot of scoundrels in this gang!

    Indeed... The Jews hide themselves behind the mask of being victims, when they are the worse predators in the history of mankind . So, they're the most hypocritical "victims" ever. But a tricky Jew will never accept the truth. To them, the truth is unimportant. All they want is to get things to go their way. The Talmud says that lies and deceit and even murder are ok. That to abuse and even kill the goyim is ok. To be a 'sacred' book, it is terribly wicked and full of sheer evil. As if written by demons, or demon-possessed folks.

    In fact, the worst of them (and there are many) fill the profile of psychopaths: merciless, incredibly selfish and devoid of any semblance of love or compassion. And what is what makes us human? So, maybe they're a defective gene pool, and if one is to believe the New Testament, this is because they're the offspring of the Evil One himself.

    To be a ‘sacred’ book, it is terribly wicked and full of sheer evil. As if written by demons, or demon-possessed folks.

    Talmud was written by men. How could it be sacred?

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    Talmud was written by men. How could it be sacred?
     
    This is why I used quotation marks. These books are sacred according to their followers.
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  • Jesus specifically told them, singling them out: “You are of your father the Devil”

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  • The Holocaust tragedy (stopped by the Soviet army, by the way) was a minor episode in comparison to the horrors inflicted by the Bolshevik government on Russia. Is this clear? There were scores of very talented Jewish artists, political activists, and professionals who fell victims to the Bolshevik regime. Like any ethnic group, Jews include both decent people and scoundrels. The same is true for any other people, particularly Germans who have contributed mightily to the world civilization. The sooner Israel stops squeaking about “special victimhood” and the bestest morality of Jewish people, the sooner people stop questioning both the victimhood and morality with the documented facts like the terrifying facts of Bolshevik revolution.

    ” Like any ethnic group, Jews include both decent people and scoundrels. ” – Certainly. But there are a lot of scoundrels in this gang!

    Indeed… The Jews hide themselves behind the mask of being victims, when they are the worse predators in the history of mankind . So, they’re the most hypocritical “victims” ever. But a tricky Jew will never accept the truth. To them, the truth is unimportant. All they want is to get things to go their way. The Talmud says that lies and deceit and even murder are ok. That to abuse and even kill the goyim is ok. To be a ‘sacred’ book, it is terribly wicked and full of sheer evil. As if written by demons, or demon-possessed folks.

    In fact, the worst of them (and there are many) fill the profile of psychopaths: merciless, incredibly selfish and devoid of any semblance of love or compassion. And what is what makes us human? So, maybe they’re a defective gene pool, and if one is to believe the New Testament, this is because they’re the offspring of the Evil One himself.

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    To be a ‘sacred’ book, it is terribly wicked and full of sheer evil. As if written by demons, or demon-possessed folks.
     
    Talmud was written by men. How could it be sacred?
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  • The Zionist United States of America. No honor, no decency, no memory, no dignity.

    I couldn’t have said it better…

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    It's not about Catholics.

    The point is that Italians made important contributions to the early development of USA.

    Of course, Rome conveyed to savage Britain that bit of civilization it managed to absorb :-j

    ah. thankyou

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  • “In the past month, there has been a lot of talk about the planned removal of monuments in Poland (230 memorials to Red Army soldiers who liberated Poland) … We consider the decision of the International Steering Committee (ISC), responsible for the construction of the renovated museum on the site of the former Nazi death camp in Sobibor, to exclude Russia from participating in the project an outrageous act of a “historical amnesia.”
    Some 600.000 Societ soldiers died during the liberation of Poland from Nazi armies.
    “… Israel is one of the countries that has behaved disgracefully in this situation. What should remain in history forever must not be distorted for immediate political reasons, because the common memory of the heroes and victims of the Second World War should live through the ages. Apart from that, we are calling on Jewish and international organizations to provide a public assessment of the situation. There has been no response. Those using a magnifying glass to peruse certain situations that have no relation to nationalism or extremism keep silent when their voices should be the first to be heard..”

    http://thesaker.is/russias-foreign-ministry-answer-to-anti-russia-statements-by-cia-director-mike-pompeo/

    The Zionist United States of America. No honor, no decency, no memory, no dignity.

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  • @annamaria
    Remembering the Liberty: http://thesaker.is/remembering-the-liberty/
    "In the meantime, the original mast with the US flag had been hit – and the Liberty sailors raised a new larger American flag.
    The forward torpedo boat opened fire on the defenseless ship. This would provide cover for the attacking boats to get close and launch their torpedoes. Though crippled himself and with a crippled ship operating with one engine, McGonagle attempted evasive maneuvers. Of the 5 torpedoes launched by the Israelis, one hit – creating a gash 24 ft high and 39 ft wide. The Liberty listed by 8 degrees; the entire intelligence section was instantly flooded trapping and killing 20 people.
    Now the torpedo boats halted fire while remaining at less than 800 yards from the Liberty. Still shocked, amazed and in disbelief, the Liberty signaled repeatedly with a hand-held Aldis lamp, “US Naval Ship.” “
    Do you need any help?” signaled the Israelis. A response that, in the circumstances, was almost adding insult to injury. “No” signaled back the Liberty.
    The torpedo boats had not yet departed when two oncoming Israeli helicopters circled the ship. Fearful of more attacks, McGonagle had the international flag hoisted signaling “Not Under Command.”
    At 6.40 PM another Israeli helicopter arrived and dropped a bag containing a business card from the US Naval Attaché at the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, Ernest Castle. On the back of the card there was a hand-written question, “Have you any casualties?” Which seemed another insult added to injury. The Liberty’s deck was a wreck, still strewn with blood and some dead sailors… impossible to miss.

    The main objective (inside the White House and notably with Johnson and McNamara), was not to antagonize Israel, along with the fear of not appearing sufficiently pro-Israel with the cadre of Israeli-firsters that comprised advisers, consultants, aids and secretaries within the Administration.
    There were multiple meetings and exchanges between Jewish members of White House and the Israeli Embassy in Washington. Cynically, some suggested that the attack on the Liberty could help weaken the accusations of American support for Israel, and gain some credibility with the Arabs.
    It was now clear that the Administration had (or for that matter has) no leverage with the Jewish state. ... the plan for a Greater Israel has not been canceled. During his administration, Obama declared that peace with the Palestinians should be achieved on the basis of returning to Palestine the lands occupied in 1967. Next day, uninvited, the Prime Minister of Israel, flew to Washington to deliver a counter-speech to the joint audience of Congress and the Senate. He received 29 standing ovations. And how about Jewish influence? Here is a quote from the Los Angeles Times from Joel Stein, “I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them."

    Don't forget the traitorous McCain family; the daddy had been most instrumental in whitewashing the "Liberty incident, " while the son has become known as Tokyo Rose and the best buddy of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

    It would have been interesting to hear the conversation between Admiral John S McCain and Admiral George Morrison, who wanted to send help to the Liberty but was countermanded by Admiral McCain. BTW, Admiral Morrison was the father of “Doors” front man, Jim Morrison…

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  • @helena
    I'm sorry to be thick, but is the point that, Catholics were influential in the early colony?

    It’s not about Catholics.

    The point is that Italians made important contributions to the early development of USA.

    Of course, Rome conveyed to savage Britain that bit of civilization it managed to absorb :-j

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    Constantino Brumidi, born in Rome, Italy in 1805, is best known for the murals he painted in the United States Capitol over a 25-year period, including the "Apotheosis of Washington," the "Frieze of American History" and the walls of the Brumidi Corridors.
     
    https://www.aoc.gov/capitol-hill/artists/constantino-brumidi

    You're welcome.

    I’m sorry to be thick, but is the point that, Catholics were influential in the early colony?

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    It's not about Catholics.

    The point is that Italians made important contributions to the early development of USA.

    Of course, Rome conveyed to savage Britain that bit of civilization it managed to absorb :-j

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  • @Chris Mallory
    Ok, if you want to stay, you drop the Irish-, Italian-, German-, Jewish-, and every other hyphenation used to bastardize AMERICAN. You learn to speak English and convert to a Protestant Christian sect. If you don't want to do all that, you have to go back.

    Constantino Brumidi, born in Rome, Italy in 1805, is best known for the murals he painted in the United States Capitol over a 25-year period, including the “Apotheosis of Washington,” the “Frieze of American History” and the walls of the Brumidi Corridors.

    https://www.aoc.gov/capitol-hill/artists/constantino-brumidi

    You’re welcome.

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  • @Chris Mallory
    The American Indians were stone age savages who did not have a nation. There was no nation here until it was founded by the British colonists.

    The American Indians were stone age savages who did not have a nation. There was no nation here until it was founded by the British colonists.

    I guess it is only a nation if white man says it is a nation. You called them savages but the history tells us that savagery came from the white man. The white man looted their land, killed their source of food and income just for fun, killed indian men, women, and children and burned their villages and you call them savages. Isn’t it interesting that Indians’ victory in the battlefield was termed a “massacre” but the white man’s massacre was called a “great victory?”

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  • @Chris Mallory
    Ok, if you want to stay, you drop the Irish-, Italian-, German-, Jewish-, and every other hyphenation used to bastardize AMERICAN. You learn to speak English and convert to a Protestant Christian sect. If you don't want to do all that, you have to go back.

    Italian Enlightenment and the U.S. Constitution – Gaetano Filangieri and Benjamin Franklin

    https://www.loc.gov/today/cyberlc/feature_wdesc.php?rec=5095

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  • @Chris Mallory
    Ok, if you want to stay, you drop the Irish-, Italian-, German-, Jewish-, and every other hyphenation used to bastardize AMERICAN. You learn to speak English and convert to a Protestant Christian sect. If you don't want to do all that, you have to go back.

    Ok, if you want to stay, you drop the Irish-, Italian-, German-, Jewish-, and every other hyphenation used to bastardize AMERICAN. You learn to speak English and convert to a Protestant Christian sect. If you don’t want to do all that, you have to go back.

    Agreed that the problem is that hyphen.

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  • @Chris Mallory
    Ok, if you want to stay, you drop the Irish-, Italian-, German-, Jewish-, and every other hyphenation used to bastardize AMERICAN. You learn to speak English and convert to a Protestant Christian sect. If you don't want to do all that, you have to go back.

    Philip Mazzei (1730-1816), a Florentine merchant, surgeon, and horticulturist, befriended Thomas Jefferson through business connections several years before the two men actually met. . . .

    Mazzei sailed to Virginia in 1773 to indulge his interest in the political life of the Colonies and to conduct agricultural experiments. The Virginia Legislature had promised Mazzei some land in Augusta County and, on his way to the Shenandoah Valley, he stopped to see Jefferson. When he discovered that the land he was to receive was divided into separate tracts, Mazzei was persuaded by Jefferson to settle in Albemarle County. Jefferson gave him a tract of land on the south side of Monticello.2 Mazzei purchased about 700 more acres by 1778 and named his farm Colle.3

    Mazzei brought many people with him, including a tailor, several laborers, and the widow Maria Martini, whom he married in 1774. Carlo Bellini, whom Jefferson recommended for a position as professor of modern languages at the College of William and Mary, and more vignerons arrived soon thereafter. . . .

    Mazzei began to establish his reputation as a patriot. He joined the “Independent Company” of Albemarle County volunteers when the British landed troops at Hampton, Virginia, in 1775.7 Elected to the vestry after only six months of residence in the area, Mazzei began to speak in various churches about Thomas Jefferson’s ideas on religious freedom and he signed a “petition of dissenters” that was presented to the General Assembly’s Committee on Religion.8 Jefferson gave Mazzei a copy of the “Rough Draught” of the Declaration of Independence,9 while an excerpt from Mazzei’s own “Instructions of the Freeholders of Albemarle County to their Delegates in Convention” was used by Jefferson in his attempt to institute a new state constitution.

    By 1778, Jefferson, Patrick Henry, George Mason, and others decided that Mazzei’s efforts would be most useful abroad. Accordingly, Mazzei was sent to borrow money for Virginia from the Grand Duke of Tuscany fmadisand to gather useful political and military information for Governor Jefferson. . . .

    After his departure, Mazzei maintained a close relationship with many of his former compatriots, including Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe. Relying on his Virginia connections for material, Mazzei published a four-volume history of the colonies, Recherches Historiques et Politiques sur les États-Unis de l’Amérique Septentrionale, in 1788.11 As the first history of the American Revolution to be published in French, the book became known as a source about the truth of the American Revolution, a counterweight to British propaganda and French misinformation.

    https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/mazzei-philip

    You’re welcome.

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  • @Cloak And Dagger

    But if your paternal ancestors were not citizens of this new nation in 1788, then yes you should go back
     
    Interesting. The population of the US in 1790 was 697,681 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_historical_population )

    So, it would seem that the majority of everyone's ancestors came after that date including most Europeans. So whom would you send back (ignoring the fact the no nation would "take back" an 8th generation descendant of a emigrant from that nation over 200 years ago, even if you have an algorithm for identifying those individuals)?

    We can certainly stem the flood of today's immigrants into the country, but could we stop blathering about "sending back" people who were born here? Our population is destined to continue to be a hybrid of multiple cultures and ethnic groups. That train has long left the station. The best any particular segment of our populace can hope to do if they want to have a critical mass of representation, is get busy in bed and pump out more children, consuming more of this planet's depleting resources.

    Ok, if you want to stay, you drop the Irish-, Italian-, German-, Jewish-, and every other hyphenation used to bastardize AMERICAN. You learn to speak English and convert to a Protestant Christian sect. If you don’t want to do all that, you have to go back.

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    Philip Mazzei (1730-1816), a Florentine merchant, surgeon, and horticulturist, befriended Thomas Jefferson through business connections several years before the two men actually met. . . .

    Mazzei sailed to Virginia in 1773 to indulge his interest in the political life of the Colonies and to conduct agricultural experiments. The Virginia Legislature had promised Mazzei some land in Augusta County and, on his way to the Shenandoah Valley, he stopped to see Jefferson. When he discovered that the land he was to receive was divided into separate tracts, Mazzei was persuaded by Jefferson to settle in Albemarle County. Jefferson gave him a tract of land on the south side of Monticello.2 Mazzei purchased about 700 more acres by 1778 and named his farm Colle.3

    Mazzei brought many people with him, including a tailor, several laborers, and the widow Maria Martini, whom he married in 1774. Carlo Bellini, whom Jefferson recommended for a position as professor of modern languages at the College of William and Mary, and more vignerons arrived soon thereafter. . . .

    Mazzei began to establish his reputation as a patriot. He joined the "Independent Company" of Albemarle County volunteers when the British landed troops at Hampton, Virginia, in 1775.7 Elected to the vestry after only six months of residence in the area, Mazzei began to speak in various churches about Thomas Jefferson's ideas on religious freedom and he signed a "petition of dissenters" that was presented to the General Assembly’s Committee on Religion.8 Jefferson gave Mazzei a copy of the "Rough Draught" of the Declaration of Independence,9 while an excerpt from Mazzei's own "Instructions of the Freeholders of Albemarle County to their Delegates in Convention" was used by Jefferson in his attempt to institute a new state constitution.

    By 1778, Jefferson, Patrick Henry, George Mason, and others decided that Mazzei's efforts would be most useful abroad. Accordingly, Mazzei was sent to borrow money for Virginia from the Grand Duke of Tuscany fmadisand to gather useful political and military information for Governor Jefferson. . . .

    After his departure, Mazzei maintained a close relationship with many of his former compatriots, including Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe. Relying on his Virginia connections for material, Mazzei published a four-volume history of the colonies, Recherches Historiques et Politiques sur les États-Unis de l'Amérique Septentrionale, in 1788.11 As the first history of the American Revolution to be published in French, the book became known as a source about the truth of the American Revolution, a counterweight to British propaganda and French misinformation.

    https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/mazzei-philip
     
    You're welcome.
    , @Miro23

    Ok, if you want to stay, you drop the Irish-, Italian-, German-, Jewish-, and every other hyphenation used to bastardize AMERICAN. You learn to speak English and convert to a Protestant Christian sect. If you don’t want to do all that, you have to go back.
     
    Agreed that the problem is that hyphen.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    Italian Enlightenment and the U.S. Constitution - Gaetano Filangieri and Benjamin Franklin

    https://www.loc.gov/today/cyberlc/feature_wdesc.php?rec=5095




    You're welcome
    , @SolontoCroesus

    Constantino Brumidi, born in Rome, Italy in 1805, is best known for the murals he painted in the United States Capitol over a 25-year period, including the "Apotheosis of Washington," the "Frieze of American History" and the walls of the Brumidi Corridors.
     
    https://www.aoc.gov/capitol-hill/artists/constantino-brumidi

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  • @MEexpert

    All immigration has been harmful to the nation founded by my ancestors.
     
    Which Indian tribe did your ancestors belong to?

    If the American Indians had a better immigration policy, we would not have this problem today.

    The American Indians were stone age savages who did not have a nation. There was no nation here until it was founded by the British colonists.

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    The American Indians were stone age savages who did not have a nation. There was no nation here until it was founded by the British colonists.
     
    I guess it is only a nation if white man says it is a nation. You called them savages but the history tells us that savagery came from the white man. The white man looted their land, killed their source of food and income just for fun, killed indian men, women, and children and burned their villages and you call them savages. Isn't it interesting that Indians' victory in the battlefield was termed a "massacre" but the white man's massacre was called a "great victory?"
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  • @Sam Shama
    Hello Annamarina

    Afraid this is going to be a short non-response for the time being.

    While many of these charges you level at Jews are each rather grave in sound, I am intrigued when you say " ferociously active in destroying the ....Russian gene pool of prominent nobles, merchants, writers, clergy, industrialists......"

    Those are words which strongly suggest Jews have been rather busy at genetic engineering/modification of the entire Russian intelligentsia!

    Many Russain Jews belonged to the flower of the Russian intelligentsia. The Bolshevik “modification” of Russian intelligentsia proceeded along the lines of destroying the nobility, clergy, merchants, writers, and poets who showed either the independence of thinking or simply a lack of enthusiasm for the Bolshevik government. At least 80% of the highest echelon of the Bolshevik government were Jews. They included the founder of Soviet secret police, the founder of Red Army, the organizer of Holodomor, and perhaps the most murderous woman in the annals of history. The systematic destruction of Russain culture and Russain intelligentsia has depleted the Russain gene pool. Is this clear? The Holocaust tragedy (stopped by the Soviet army, by the way) was a minor episode in comparison to the horrors inflicted by the Bolshevik government on Russia. Is this clear? There were scores of very talented Jewish artists, political activists, and professionals who fell victims to the Bolshevik regime. Like any ethnic group, Jews include both decent people and scoundrels. The same is true for any other people, particularly Germans who have contributed mightily to the world civilization. The sooner Israel stops squeaking about “special victimhood” and the bestest morality of Jewish people, the sooner people stop questioning both the victimhood and morality with the documented facts like the terrifying facts of Bolshevik revolution.

    http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2008/07/genrikh-yagoda-greatest-mass-murderer.html

    https://justice4poland.com/2017/03/23/lazar-kaganovich-the-chief-of-stalins-willing-executioners-implications-for-holodomor-the-great-terror-and-katyn-massacre/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror

    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/signscorpion/signscorpion07.htm

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  • @RobinG
    Hey Geo,

    This is a monumental documentary. I'm up to the burning of the Fed. Bldg. in Odessa. Hilligula made that. May she burn in Hell forever.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSx8HJfBl7U
    8 Months in Ukraine (Euromaidan - MH17)

    This is a monumental documentary.

    Hey, Robin. Monumental, indeed. That said, it is well worth watching as it underscores the contradictory nature of two narratives the Luggenpresse of Weimerica (LOW) have been propagating, depending on the particular circumstances… what some might be call situational morality.

    In preparation for the invasion of Iraq, the LOW was selling the narrative that Saddam was a brutal dictator who was bent on killing his own people (the truth was, as we now know, he was keeping a tight lid on the Islamists who were keen on establishing a caliphate in the region).

    In the Ukrainian theatre, on the other hand, instead of pushing the same line and condemning the junta in Kiev for killing its own people, the LOW is now propagating the false narrative that the junta has “every right to secure its sovereignty and its borders,” and, therefore, can deal with the “terrorists” as they see fit, even by shelling them with Grads in their homes, schools, and hospitals.

    So in Iraq, the Kurds and Shia (who were seeking autonomy) were freedom fighters, while in Ukraine, the people (who are seeking autonomy) are “terrorists.”

    The contradiction between these two narratives cannot be any greater.

    But just like the documentary about The Magnitsky Act, Behind the Scenes, something tells me the American people will never get a chance to see this documentary about what is really transpiring in eastern Ukraine. Can you even imagine 60 minutes airing something like this? I can’t.

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  • Interesting to contrast this recent exchange on the term “goy”:

    lavoisier- I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.

    Sam Shama – On the matter of using the term Goy, I agree its employment implies hostility, thus proscribing my use. I couldn’t agree more with your ending sentiment.

    with this previous one:

    geokat62 – Speaking of chutzpah, do you recall our little debate on the meaning of term “goyim”? Well, I came across some interesting information posted on a website hosted by the Santa Barbara Jewish Connection. It is quite revealing about the origins of various selected Yiddish words and phrases… “to impress your friends and family.” Here are a few of the words they’ve included:

    shiksa = A gentile girl or woman. Yiddish shikse, from Hebrew šiqṣāh (from šeqeṣ ‘detested thing’ + the feminine suffix -āh ).

    Shegetz = Yiddish racial and religious epithet that has entered English to refer to a non-Jewish boy or young man.

    The slur shegetz, like its feminine counterpart shiksa, comes from the Hebrew sheketz (“detestable,” “abomination”, “loathed”, “blemish”)

    Oh, and wouldn’t you know it, the word “goy” is also one of the words included:

    GOY: A derogatory term meaning gentile, goyim is the plural, and goyisher is the adjective.

    http://www.sbjf.org/sbjco/schmaltz/yiddish_phrases.htm

    Sam Shama – Also, Geo, all that Yiddish is makes me nostalgic for the Fiddler. Trust me, American Jews do not view gentiles in the manner you are trying to portray. Not one bit. I’ve said this before, have you checked the intermarriage rates lately?

    The recent HuffPo headline on Bannon seems to suggest these assurances may not have been completely sincere.

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  • @jacques sheete

    Second, Jewry is opposed to Nazism
     
    So how does that explain the Zionists who claimed to be Jews, yet collaborated with Nazis?

    PS: Denying it won't get you very far.
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  • @geokat62

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.
     
    Speaking of the use of the term Goyim, get a load of this headline on Bannon by HuffPo (they've since removed it):

    What HuffPo Meant With ‘Goy, Bye!’ Headline On Bannon — And Why Twitter Hated It

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/380495/huffington-post-goy-bye-headline-bannon/
     

    It appears that the editors of HP are just as cocky as some of the habarists here at UR.

    They are letting the mask slip, that is for sure.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Hello S2C,

    I am obligated, I feel, to answer your queries, but I'm afraid it'll have to wait till the day after tomorrow when I arrive at Cape Cod for our summer rituals. I trust you'll find this an acceptable wait. If not, do inform and I shall refrain.

    Best

    That works, Sam.

    I’m traveling the other direction to see the Solar Eclipse in toto.

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  • @jacques sheete

    Avnery had some good ideas but in the end proved too much of a dreamer. His own mother disowned him.
     
    Careful there or you might sound like an anti-Semitic jerk and your own mother should disown you for it.

    As for the rest of your comment, I'll let you edit it until it makes some sense, then I may decide to honor it with a reasonable reply.

    Ah, I had missed this one, from our resident holiest-of-all, passive-aggressive bitter-righteous-sheete-in chief, M. Jacques!
     

    You pretty much nailed it. So much so that I can't keep from blushing ( I don't do compliments well). Merci!

    Short entry monsieur, but my mother disowns me and reverses her act, each one a subject of her most immediate convenience. It’s my granny who guards my meagre inheritance :-)

    On the matter of the middle portion of my post, I find myself wondering what is it that you wish to hear? The truth about the world of politics between nation-states, or a paean to indulgent morality and make-believe?

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  • @annamaria
    "... Jews have always been attracted to all manner of political and philosophical movements of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries."
    True.
    But while people have been educated about Nazis' crimes against humanity, the horrors inflicted by the Jewish Bolshevik government and by some particularly bloodthirsty and sadistic Jews have been obscured and denied, hence the infamy of the sequestration of Solzhenitsyn documentary "Two Hundred Years Together" (http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/)
    There were Yagoda (Secret police CheKa), Kaganovich (organizer of Holodomor), Zemlyachka (Zalkind: https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/ - a prototype of Nuland-Kagan), Trotsky (Bronshtein) and others who had been ferociously active in destroying the Russian culture and Russian gene pool of the prominent nobles, merchants, writers, clergy, industrialists, and simply independent-minded people. Surely were some good ideas in Bolshevism, but the same is true about Nazism and Zionism. The Jewish Bolshevik government was a scourge of Russian people.

    Hello Annamarina

    Afraid this is going to be a short non-response for the time being.

    While many of these charges you level at Jews are each rather grave in sound, I am intrigued when you say ” ferociously active in destroying the ….Russian gene pool of prominent nobles, merchants, writers, clergy, industrialists……”

    Those are words which strongly suggest Jews have been rather busy at genetic engineering/modification of the entire Russian intelligentsia!

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    Many Russain Jews belonged to the flower of the Russian intelligentsia. The Bolshevik "modification" of Russian intelligentsia proceeded along the lines of destroying the nobility, clergy, merchants, writers, and poets who showed either the independence of thinking or simply a lack of enthusiasm for the Bolshevik government. At least 80% of the highest echelon of the Bolshevik government were Jews. They included the founder of Soviet secret police, the founder of Red Army, the organizer of Holodomor, and perhaps the most murderous woman in the annals of history. The systematic destruction of Russain culture and Russain intelligentsia has depleted the Russain gene pool. Is this clear? The Holocaust tragedy (stopped by the Soviet army, by the way) was a minor episode in comparison to the horrors inflicted by the Bolshevik government on Russia. Is this clear? There were scores of very talented Jewish artists, political activists, and professionals who fell victims to the Bolshevik regime. Like any ethnic group, Jews include both decent people and scoundrels. The same is true for any other people, particularly Germans who have contributed mightily to the world civilization. The sooner Israel stops squeaking about "special victimhood" and the bestest morality of Jewish people, the sooner people stop questioning both the victimhood and morality with the documented facts like the terrifying facts of Bolshevik revolution.
    http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2008/07/genrikh-yagoda-greatest-mass-murderer.html
    https://justice4poland.com/2017/03/23/lazar-kaganovich-the-chief-of-stalins-willing-executioners-implications-for-holodomor-the-great-terror-and-katyn-massacre/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/signscorpion/signscorpion07.htm
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  • @SolontoCroesus

    To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism
     
    I've been thinking about your comment all evening; wrote about a thousand words in response.

    It occurred to me that the words I wrote attempted to read your mind to answer the question, "what is the virus of Nazism?"

    What I think you think defines "the virus of Nazism" is irrelevant.

    Please explain how you define "the virus of Nazism."
    In your analysis, What is pathological about Nazism?
    With moral clarity and specifics -- Who did what to whom, when and why -- define the "virus of Nazism," s'il vous plait.

    Hello S2C,

    I am obligated, I feel, to answer your queries, but I’m afraid it’ll have to wait till the day after tomorrow when I arrive at Cape Cod for our summer rituals. I trust you’ll find this an acceptable wait. If not, do inform and I shall refrain.

    Best

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    That works, Sam.

    I'm traveling the other direction to see the Solar Eclipse in toto.
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  • @geokat62

    Tell McDonald [and yourself] to make points without resort to obscure Jews.
     
    How 'bout this obscure Jew:

    “America’s pluralistic society is at the heart of Jewish security,” says Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League – a leading Jewish-Zionist organization. “In the long run,” he continues, “what has made American Jewish life a uniquely positive experience in Diaspora history and which has enabled us to be such important allies for the State of Israel, is the health of a pluralistic, tolerant and inclusive American society.”

    http://ihr.org/other/biden_jewish_role
     

    If you call opposing neo-Nazism mischief, you are barking up the wrong tree, rover.
     
    I call The Lobby's 100 year effort to alter the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples mischief, Fido.

    Final word; always dial the Lobby when in doubt.
     
    Final word; always dissemble when awake.

    “what has made American Jewish life a uniquely positive experience in Diaspora history and which has enabled us to be such important allies for the State of Israel, is the health of a pluralistic, tolerant and inclusive American society.” Abraham Foxman

    or alternatively;

    “what has made American Jewish life a uniquely negative experience in American history and which has enabled them to be such important enemies of the United States, is Jewish abuse of trust in a pluralistic, tolerant and inclusive American society.” American Foxman

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  • @geokat62
    Rather than specializing in dissembling, here's someone who is comfortable speaking the truth:

    American Jews need to get clear on the nationalism question. Are they for an ethnic state that seeks to shelter one ethnicity, even if that means driving out the minority and discriminating against that minority on an ongoing basis– and having government coalitions composed of parties representing one religious belief? Or are they against that kind of arrangement? If they’re against it here, they should be against it there, in what Cory Booker’s largest donor calls the “Jewish Homeland”– the country of Greater Israel, which is half Jewish and half Palestinian, with most of those Palestinians lacking all rights.

    Charlottesville makes this conversation urgent because the hypocrisy of the Democratic leadership hurts resistance to intolerance. You can’t be righteously anti-nationalist in the U.S. and evangelists for Jewish nationalism over there.

    This is not just good liberal philosophy. It’s the best policy to fight anti-Semitism. Israel’s status as a human-rights abuser is now its global reputation; and Jews and Jewish organizations who blindly defend it are hurting the reputation of Jews. Tony Klug explained this at J Street a few months ago. The Palestinian conflict is now defining the Jewish reputation around the world and making Jewish life in other countries “precarious.”

    [I]f Israel does not end the occupation sharply, and if organized Jewish opinion in other countries appears openly to back it, there will indeed almost certainly be a further surge in anti-Jewish sentiment, potentially unleashing more sinister impulses.

    To stem those “sinister” forces, Klug said American Jews must pressure Israel to end the occupation or give Palestinians equal rights. Pretty much what happened in the South, a long time ago….

    Liberalism and Zionism (as it has worked out anyway) are incompatible. That is why so many liberal Zionists have turned quietly into non-Zionists in recent years. We see this in the surging membership of Jewish Voice for Peace, and in the ways Bernie Sanders, Tom Friedman and Ayelet Waldman have stepped away from Zionism. Jeffrey Goldberg is in the halfway house. Deep in their hearts, liberals know that we are in a different age from the mid-20th century, and that Zionism is an untenable ideology in an era in which the country is seeking to solidify minority rights and other progressive achievements. They need to say so out loud. - Philip Weiss of MW

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/08/charlottesville-empowered-children/
     

    Pretty much consistent with what I've been saying for quite some time, notwithstanding the dissembling from our resident hasbarists.

    As Philip Weiss admonishes at the very end of his piece, liberal Zionists must choose one ideology or the other, they can't defend both. So, to our resident hasbarists, which is it: do you truly subscribe to liberalism or Zionism? Pick one. If you choose to ardently defend the Zionist state, you'll have to keep your mouth shut about Charlottesville and other similar events, for consistency's sake.

    Israel’s status as a human-rights abuser is now its global reputation; and Jews and Jewish organizations who blindly defend it are hurting the reputation of Jews.

    Of course that’s true and even a dumb goy like me can understand the concept.

    Furthermore it was predicted by intelligent and moral anti-Zionist Jews many decades ago.

    …It’s hard to imagine now, but in 1944, six years after Kristallnacht, Lessing J. Rosenwald, president of the American Council for Judaism, felt comfortable equating the Zionist ideal of Jewish statehood with “the concept of a racial state — the Hitlerian concept.” For most of the last century, a principled opposition to Zionism was a mainstream stance within American Judaism.

    Even after the foundation of Israel, anti-Zionism was not a particularly heretical position.

    -Ben Ehrenreich, Zionism is the problem

    http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-ehrenreich15-2009mar15-story.html

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  • @Sam Shama
    Ah, I had missed this one, from our resident holiest-of-all, passive-aggressive bitter-righteous-sheete-in chief, M. Jacques!

    Let's see. What have you to say which requires a response? Nothing substantial.

    Who is the U.S. to call Hamas a terrorist organisation? Who is Israel? Well, Jacques, they'd be two nations who can and do. American Dept of State pronounces Hamas a terrorist organisation with sufficient cause. You calling America whatever grabs your interest is not of any consequence. You seem to live in a highly conflicted mental world of your own making. Any State Depts. you can name which make statements based on a strict code of academic ethics? Or morality? If you find it, set sail for that mythical land without delay!

    Avnery had some good ideas but in the end proved too much of a dreamer. His own mother disowned him.

    Avnery had some good ideas but in the end proved too much of a dreamer. His own mother disowned him.

    Careful there or you might sound like an anti-Semitic jerk and your own mother should disown you for it.

    As for the rest of your comment, I’ll let you edit it until it makes some sense, then I may decide to honor it with a reasonable reply.

    Ah, I had missed this one, from our resident holiest-of-all, passive-aggressive bitter-righteous-sheete-in chief, M. Jacques!

    You pretty much nailed it. So much so that I can’t keep from blushing ( I don’t do compliments well). Merci!

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    Short entry monsieur, but my mother disowns me and reverses her act, each one a subject of her most immediate convenience. It's my granny who guards my meagre inheritance :-)

    On the matter of the middle portion of my post, I find myself wondering what is it that you wish to hear? The truth about the world of politics between nation-states, or a paean to indulgent morality and make-believe?

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  • @Sam Shama
    Tell McDonald [and yourself] to make points without resort to obscure Jews. Second, Jewry is opposed to Nazism, which McDonald dreams of resurrecting. If you call opposing neo-Nazism mischief, you are barking up the wrong tree, rover. This is America, the nation of the brave and scourge of Nazism. Final word; always dial the Lobby when in doubt.

    cheerio.

    Second, Jewry is opposed to Nazism

    So how does that explain the Zionists who claimed to be Jews, yet collaborated with Nazis?

    PS: Denying it won’t get you very far.

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    Indeed:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreement
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  • @lavoisier
    Indeed that is true and would not be disputed by me.

    But I do think the evils of the Nazis have been placed on white Christian Civilization by far too many Jewish individuals--just as the evils of slavery have been seen as the collective responsibility of all white people, even those who fought to free the slaves.

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.

    We all have to learn to be better people and to forgive each other for our sins.

    The only way for this to happen is for anti-Gentilism to be perceived as vile a concept as is anti-Semitism.

    Hate begets hate.

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.

    Speaking of the use of the term Goyim, get a load of this headline on Bannon by HuffPo (they’ve since removed it):

    What HuffPo Meant With ‘Goy, Bye!’ Headline On Bannon — And Why Twitter Hated It

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/380495/huffington-post-goy-bye-headline-bannon/

    It appears that the editors of HP are just as cocky as some of the habarists here at UR.

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    They are letting the mask slip, that is for sure.
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  • Rather than specializing in dissembling, here’s someone who is comfortable speaking the truth:

    American Jews need to get clear on the nationalism question. Are they for an ethnic state that seeks to shelter one ethnicity, even if that means driving out the minority and discriminating against that minority on an ongoing basis– and having government coalitions composed of parties representing one religious belief? Or are they against that kind of arrangement? If they’re against it here, they should be against it there, in what Cory Booker’s largest donor calls the “Jewish Homeland”– the country of Greater Israel, which is half Jewish and half Palestinian, with most of those Palestinians lacking all rights.

    Charlottesville makes this conversation urgent because the hypocrisy of the Democratic leadership hurts resistance to intolerance. You can’t be righteously anti-nationalist in the U.S. and evangelists for Jewish nationalism over there.

    This is not just good liberal philosophy. It’s the best policy to fight anti-Semitism. Israel’s status as a human-rights abuser is now its global reputation; and Jews and Jewish organizations who blindly defend it are hurting the reputation of Jews. Tony Klug explained this at J Street a few months ago. The Palestinian conflict is now defining the Jewish reputation around the world and making Jewish life in other countries “precarious.”

    [I]f Israel does not end the occupation sharply, and if organized Jewish opinion in other countries appears openly to back it, there will indeed almost certainly be a further surge in anti-Jewish sentiment, potentially unleashing more sinister impulses.

    To stem those “sinister” forces, Klug said American Jews must pressure Israel to end the occupation or give Palestinians equal rights. Pretty much what happened in the South, a long time ago….

    Liberalism and Zionism (as it has worked out anyway) are incompatible. That is why so many liberal Zionists have turned quietly into non-Zionists in recent years. We see this in the surging membership of Jewish Voice for Peace, and in the ways Bernie Sanders, Tom Friedman and Ayelet Waldman have stepped away from Zionism. Jeffrey Goldberg is in the halfway house. Deep in their hearts, liberals know that we are in a different age from the mid-20th century, and that Zionism is an untenable ideology in an era in which the country is seeking to solidify minority rights and other progressive achievements. They need to say so out loud. – Philip Weiss of MW

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/08/charlottesville-empowered-children/

    Pretty much consistent with what I’ve been saying for quite some time, notwithstanding the dissembling from our resident hasbarists.

    As Philip Weiss admonishes at the very end of his piece, liberal Zionists must choose one ideology or the other, they can’t defend both. So, to our resident hasbarists, which is it: do you truly subscribe to liberalism or Zionism? Pick one. If you choose to ardently defend the Zionist state, you’ll have to keep your mouth shut about Charlottesville and other similar events, for consistency’s sake.

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    Israel’s status as a human-rights abuser is now its global reputation; and Jews and Jewish organizations who blindly defend it are hurting the reputation of Jews.
     
    Of course that's true and even a dumb goy like me can understand the concept.

    Furthermore it was predicted by intelligent and moral anti-Zionist Jews many decades ago.


    …It's hard to imagine now, but in 1944, six years after Kristallnacht, Lessing J. Rosenwald, president of the American Council for Judaism, felt comfortable equating the Zionist ideal of Jewish statehood with "the concept of a racial state -- the Hitlerian concept." For most of the last century, a principled opposition to Zionism was a mainstream stance within American Judaism.

    Even after the foundation of Israel, anti-Zionism was not a particularly heretical position.

    -Ben Ehrenreich, Zionism is the problem

    http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-ehrenreich15-2009mar15-story.html

     

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  • Art

    As always, I admire how you think & your comments consistently raise reader awareness

    Ivanka’s rabbi has a part in ZUSA theater.

    I intuit that no ZUSA Catholics will complain about rabbinical interference in politics.

    The rabbi’s shady intervention into First Family affairs will help intensify prole love for ZioThink.

    Thanks!

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Art,

    I am impressed with the logical, plain spoken way that you deal with Sam the Sham.

    A few months ago, The Shammie unsuccessfully tried to force P. Giraldi into making a response to one of his typical arrogant Jew elitist comments on U.R.

    I applauded Mr. Giraldi for ignoring Sam Shama and I wish SolontoCroesus could throw Bruno Mali size 14's at the prick.

    One more matter? The trashing of the Trump administration is THEATER and Charlottesville has done well at advancing ZUSA's One Party/One Ideology script.

    Do you think The Donald is unaccountable to the wrath of his daughter's pissed off Manhattan-based rabbi? Oh my... the drama!

    Stay tuned, Art, for the next episode of C.S.I. Kellogg, Brown, & Newt.

    Thanks!

    Do you think The Donald is unaccountable to the wrath of his daughter’s pissed off Manhattan-based rabbi? Oh my… the drama!

    Chuck,

    That rabbi is a typical Jew – all politics all the time. His culture and upbringing dictates that he must make political hay out this situation. He cannot help himself.

    He illustrates the sick classless nature of the Jew culture. He publicly went tribal and political, over his personal responsibilities as a shepherd. Ivanka is an import person in his religious charge. He chose to take issue and attack her father and embarrass her, rather than protect her. He shamed her father to the world – rather than loving her, and supporting her as her protective spiritual leader. Hurting her, he chose to put a wedge between father and daughter for political tribal gain. He is human trash.

    What defines a Jew is tribal politics – they live in fear of being found out to be what they are. They must continuously keep their neighbors of balance with claims of victimhood. They cannot love their neighbor. It is forbidden.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Me thinks the rabbi will always see Ivanka as a separate goy!

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  • @Sam Shama
    Hello lavoisier,
    Goyim is not a term I use, nor do any of my Jewish friends. I find it somewhat archaic, even demeaning. I can't imagine why anyone, Christian, Jew or Muslim, would be expected to own the evils of Nazism. The world suffered its consequences and remembers it, hopefully not to repeat.

    Bolshevism a philosophy founded on the principles of democratic centralism, which in itself sounds reasonable enough, suffered deep flaws, being vulnerable to authoritarian takeovers. Certainly, the leadership was comprised of many Jews, but Jews have always been attracted to all manner of political and philosophical movements of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. So yes Jews were Bolshevists. But they were also anti-Bolshevists, communists, anti-communists, capitalists, anti-capitalists, anti-fascists, anti-authoritarianists, monarchists, anti-monarchists etc. You'll find Jews in anything which involves debate and experimentation!

    “… Jews have always been attracted to all manner of political and philosophical movements of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries.”
    True.
    But while people have been educated about Nazis’ crimes against humanity, the horrors inflicted by the Jewish Bolshevik government and by some particularly bloodthirsty and sadistic Jews have been obscured and denied, hence the infamy of the sequestration of Solzhenitsyn documentary “Two Hundred Years Together” (http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/)
    There were Yagoda (Secret police CheKa), Kaganovich (organizer of Holodomor), Zemlyachka (Zalkind: https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/ – a prototype of Nuland-Kagan), Trotsky (Bronshtein) and others who had been ferociously active in destroying the Russian culture and Russian gene pool of the prominent nobles, merchants, writers, clergy, industrialists, and simply independent-minded people. Surely were some good ideas in Bolshevism, but the same is true about Nazism and Zionism. The Jewish Bolshevik government was a scourge of Russian people.

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    Hello Annamarina

    Afraid this is going to be a short non-response for the time being.

    While many of these charges you level at Jews are each rather grave in sound, I am intrigued when you say " ferociously active in destroying the ....Russian gene pool of prominent nobles, merchants, writers, clergy, industrialists......"

    Those are words which strongly suggest Jews have been rather busy at genetic engineering/modification of the entire Russian intelligentsia!
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  • @lavoisier
    Indeed that is true and would not be disputed by me.

    But I do think the evils of the Nazis have been placed on white Christian Civilization by far too many Jewish individuals--just as the evils of slavery have been seen as the collective responsibility of all white people, even those who fought to free the slaves.

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.

    We all have to learn to be better people and to forgive each other for our sins.

    The only way for this to happen is for anti-Gentilism to be perceived as vile a concept as is anti-Semitism.

    Hate begets hate.

    But I do think the evils of the Nazis have been placed on white Christian Civilization by far too many Jewish individuals–just as the evils of slavery have been seen as the collective responsibility of all white people, even those who fought to free the slaves.

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.

    If that is the case, it is wrong and beyond debate. Even in cinema, a medium which reaches the largest audience, take a work such as Schindler’s list; I found the portrayal actually very positive in light for those who rescued the Jews. That is how I’ve seen most of these things.

    On the matter of using the term Goy, I agree its employment implies hostility, thus proscribing my use. I couldn’t agree more with your ending sentiment.

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  • @Sam Shama
    [But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.]

    The nonsensical tropes abundant in Kevin McDonald's "research", and other esteemable sources such as Stormfront are to be dismissed in the summary manner one reserves for material destined for the dustbins of history.

    Ashkenazi Jewish life is, if anything, deeply steeped in Western cultural traditions of music, literature, science, and technology.

    To say otherwise is to deny that which is undeniable. To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism is to reject the lessons of history so tragically visited upon the nations of Europe and beyond. To fail to acknowledge that Aryan themed claptrap reduces Western values is to reject that which is deepest in the Occidental canon; those values which undergird American Exceptionalism, of Individual effort, responsibility, work and the right to engage in voluntary transactions.

    Pay close attention to events about to unfold. We citizens of America and her allies shall never brook opposition to these glorious principles while the helots of Nazism drink the waters of Lethe and invite oblivion.

    To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism

    I’ve been thinking about your comment all evening; wrote about a thousand words in response.

    It occurred to me that the words I wrote attempted to read your mind to answer the question, “what is the virus of Nazism?”

    What I think you think defines “the virus of Nazism” is irrelevant.

    Please explain how you define “the virus of Nazism.”
    In your analysis, What is pathological about Nazism?
    With moral clarity and specifics — Who did what to whom, when and why — define the “virus of Nazism,” s’il vous plait.

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    Hello S2C,

    I am obligated, I feel, to answer your queries, but I'm afraid it'll have to wait till the day after tomorrow when I arrive at Cape Cod for our summer rituals. I trust you'll find this an acceptable wait. If not, do inform and I shall refrain.

    Best
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  • @Sam Shama
    Tell McDonald [and yourself] to make points without resort to obscure Jews. Second, Jewry is opposed to Nazism, which McDonald dreams of resurrecting. If you call opposing neo-Nazism mischief, you are barking up the wrong tree, rover. This is America, the nation of the brave and scourge of Nazism. Final word; always dial the Lobby when in doubt.

    cheerio.

    “This is America, the nation of the brave and scourge of Nazism.”
    Thanks for the nice formulation.

    For those who are in doubt, here is some educational material:

    “Exposing troubling ties in the U.S. to overt Nazi and fascist protesters in Ukraine:” http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/us-backing-neo-nazis-ukraine

    “BBC now admits that armed Nazis led a revolution in Kiev:” https://journal-neo.org/2014/03/07/bbc-now-admits-armed-nazis-led/

    “U.S. imperialists in bed with Ukrainian fascists:” http://www.reddirtreport.com/prairie-opinions/us-imperialists-bed-ukrainian-fascists

    The Odessa Massacre: Pro-Kiev Loyalists in Action:

    “…open fascism and neo-Nazi extremism in Ukraine…” http://www.salon.com/2014/02/25/is_the_us_backing_neo_nazis_in_ukraine_partner/

    “Obama, Pentagon clear way to send US aid to Ukraine neo-Nazis:”

    https://www.rt.com/usa/329010-ukraine-neo-nazis-aid/

    “UKRAINE CITY TO HOLD FESTIVAL IN HONOR OF NAZI COLLABORATOR:” http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Ukraine-city-to-hold-festival-in-honor-of-Nazi-collaborator-498159

    “Torchlight march: Neo-Nazis mark 73rd anniversary of Ukrainian SS division:”

    “Ukraine nationalists march in Kiev to honour Bandera:” http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30655184

    ‘The Kagans Are Back; Wars to Follow:” https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/15/the-kagans-are-back-wars-to-follow/

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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    Idiot.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-18/heres-how-huffpost-reported-bannon-firing

    No; apparently, there are two idiots in this exchange, you and Polgreen. Perhaps you missed what I wrote as well the condemnations of Polgreen’s asinine tweet by many other Jews.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Hello lavoisier,
    Goyim is not a term I use, nor do any of my Jewish friends. I find it somewhat archaic, even demeaning. I can't imagine why anyone, Christian, Jew or Muslim, would be expected to own the evils of Nazism. The world suffered its consequences and remembers it, hopefully not to repeat.

    Bolshevism a philosophy founded on the principles of democratic centralism, which in itself sounds reasonable enough, suffered deep flaws, being vulnerable to authoritarian takeovers. Certainly, the leadership was comprised of many Jews, but Jews have always been attracted to all manner of political and philosophical movements of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. So yes Jews were Bolshevists. But they were also anti-Bolshevists, communists, anti-communists, capitalists, anti-capitalists, anti-fascists, anti-authoritarianists, monarchists, anti-monarchists etc. You'll find Jews in anything which involves debate and experimentation!

    Indeed that is true and would not be disputed by me.

    But I do think the evils of the Nazis have been placed on white Christian Civilization by far too many Jewish individuals–just as the evils of slavery have been seen as the collective responsibility of all white people, even those who fought to free the slaves.

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.

    We all have to learn to be better people and to forgive each other for our sins.

    The only way for this to happen is for anti-Gentilism to be perceived as vile a concept as is anti-Semitism.

    Hate begets hate.

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    But I do think the evils of the Nazis have been placed on white Christian Civilization by far too many Jewish individuals–just as the evils of slavery have been seen as the collective responsibility of all white people, even those who fought to free the slaves.

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.
     

    If that is the case, it is wrong and beyond debate. Even in cinema, a medium which reaches the largest audience, take a work such as Schindler's list; I found the portrayal actually very positive in light for those who rescued the Jews. That is how I've seen most of these things.

    On the matter of using the term Goy, I agree its employment implies hostility, thus proscribing my use. I couldn't agree more with your ending sentiment.

    , @geokat62

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.
     
    Speaking of the use of the term Goyim, get a load of this headline on Bannon by HuffPo (they've since removed it):

    What HuffPo Meant With ‘Goy, Bye!’ Headline On Bannon — And Why Twitter Hated It

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/380495/huffington-post-goy-bye-headline-bannon/
     

    It appears that the editors of HP are just as cocky as some of the habarists here at UR.
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  • @Sam Shama
    Hello lavoisier,
    Goyim is not a term I use, nor do any of my Jewish friends. I find it somewhat archaic, even demeaning. I can't imagine why anyone, Christian, Jew or Muslim, would be expected to own the evils of Nazism. The world suffered its consequences and remembers it, hopefully not to repeat.

    Bolshevism a philosophy founded on the principles of democratic centralism, which in itself sounds reasonable enough, suffered deep flaws, being vulnerable to authoritarian takeovers. Certainly, the leadership was comprised of many Jews, but Jews have always been attracted to all manner of political and philosophical movements of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. So yes Jews were Bolshevists. But they were also anti-Bolshevists, communists, anti-communists, capitalists, anti-capitalists, anti-fascists, anti-authoritarianists, monarchists, anti-monarchists etc. You'll find Jews in anything which involves debate and experimentation!

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    No; apparently, there are two idiots in this exchange, you and Polgreen. Perhaps you missed what I wrote as well the condemnations of Polgreen's asinine tweet by many other Jews.
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  • @jacques sheete

    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation.
     
    Who are the US and Israel calling terrorist organizations? Are they looking in the mirror? Ever hear of the Irgun? A terrorist organization that stunk so bad that the Israeli government admitted it and supposedly disbanded it.

    Israeli authorities in Jerusalem today handed the Irgun Zvai Leumi an ultimatum to liquidate itself as an independent organization and demanded that all its members immediately enlist in the Israeli Army, without attaching any conditions to their service. This is the latest in a series of antiterrorist activities initiated by the government in the wake of the assassination in Jerusalem last Friday of U.N. mediator Count Folke Bernadotte and his French aide, Col. Andre Serot.

    Irgun Accepts Govt. Ultimatum to Disband; Israel Erects Detention Camp for Terrorists
    Jewish Telegraphic Agency, September 21, 1948
    TEL AVIV (Sep. 20)
    http://www.jta.org/1948/09/21/archive/irgun-accepts-govt-ultimatum-to-disband-israel-erects-detention-camp-for-terrorists

     

    .

    When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel.
     
    Now that's hilarious. From a former Israeli fighter and Knesset memeber himself.:

    The entire [Israeli] military and civilian environment seems to be infected by corruption, as in a failed African state.

    Uri Avnery, "Anyone But Bibi" 12/08/17
    http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1502458442/

     

    Would it be too much to ask that you clean your own tush first?

    Ah, I had missed this one, from our resident holiest-of-all, passive-aggressive bitter-righteous-sheete-in chief, M. Jacques!

    Let’s see. What have you to say which requires a response? Nothing substantial.

    Who is the U.S. to call Hamas a terrorist organisation? Who is Israel? Well, Jacques, they’d be two nations who can and do. American Dept of State pronounces Hamas a terrorist organisation with sufficient cause. You calling America whatever grabs your interest is not of any consequence. You seem to live in a highly conflicted mental world of your own making. Any State Depts. you can name which make statements based on a strict code of academic ethics? Or morality? If you find it, set sail for that mythical land without delay!

    Avnery had some good ideas but in the end proved too much of a dreamer. His own mother disowned him.

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    Avnery had some good ideas but in the end proved too much of a dreamer. His own mother disowned him.
     
    Careful there or you might sound like an anti-Semitic jerk and your own mother should disown you for it.

    As for the rest of your comment, I'll let you edit it until it makes some sense, then I may decide to honor it with a reasonable reply.

    Ah, I had missed this one, from our resident holiest-of-all, passive-aggressive bitter-righteous-sheete-in chief, M. Jacques!
     

    You pretty much nailed it. So much so that I can't keep from blushing ( I don't do compliments well). Merci!
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  • Tell McDonald [and yourself] to make points without resort to obscure Jews.

    How ’bout this obscure Jew:

    “America’s pluralistic society is at the heart of Jewish security,” says Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League – a leading Jewish-Zionist organization. “In the long run,” he continues, “what has made American Jewish life a uniquely positive experience in Diaspora history and which has enabled us to be such important allies for the State of Israel, is the health of a pluralistic, tolerant and inclusive American society.”

    http://ihr.org/other/biden_jewish_role

    If you call opposing neo-Nazism mischief, you are barking up the wrong tree, rover.

    I call The Lobby’s 100 year effort to alter the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples mischief, Fido.

    Final word; always dial the Lobby when in doubt.

    Final word; always dissemble when awake.

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    “what has made American Jewish life a uniquely positive experience in Diaspora history and which has enabled us to be such important allies for the State of Israel, is the health of a pluralistic, tolerant and inclusive American society.” Abraham Foxman
     
    or alternatively;

    “what has made American Jewish life a uniquely negative experience in American history and which has enabled them to be such important enemies of the United States, is Jewish abuse of trust in a pluralistic, tolerant and inclusive American society.” American Foxman

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  • @lavoisier
    Come on Sam, come clean.

    We goyim have on the evils of the Nazis, can you at least come clean on the Bolshevik terrors and the harm caused by the Jewish left?

    Hello lavoisier,
    Goyim is not a term I use, nor do any of my Jewish friends. I find it somewhat archaic, even demeaning. I can’t imagine why anyone, Christian, Jew or Muslim, would be expected to own the evils of Nazism. The world suffered its consequences and remembers it, hopefully not to repeat.

    Bolshevism a philosophy founded on the principles of democratic centralism, which in itself sounds reasonable enough, suffered deep flaws, being vulnerable to authoritarian takeovers. Certainly, the leadership was comprised of many Jews, but Jews have always been attracted to all manner of political and philosophical movements of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. So yes Jews were Bolshevists. But they were also anti-Bolshevists, communists, anti-communists, capitalists, anti-capitalists, anti-fascists, anti-authoritarianists, monarchists, anti-monarchists etc. You’ll find Jews in anything which involves debate and experimentation!

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    Idiot.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-18/heres-how-huffpost-reported-bannon-firing
    , @lavoisier
    Indeed that is true and would not be disputed by me.

    But I do think the evils of the Nazis have been placed on white Christian Civilization by far too many Jewish individuals--just as the evils of slavery have been seen as the collective responsibility of all white people, even those who fought to free the slaves.

    I use the word Goyim not to disparage the unbeliever as you imply, but to use it in the hostile sense of the word as it has been applied to this outgroup throughout history by far too many Jews.

    We all have to learn to be better people and to forgive each other for our sins.

    The only way for this to happen is for anti-Gentilism to be perceived as vile a concept as is anti-Semitism.

    Hate begets hate.

    , @annamaria
    "... Jews have always been attracted to all manner of political and philosophical movements of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries."
    True.
    But while people have been educated about Nazis' crimes against humanity, the horrors inflicted by the Jewish Bolshevik government and by some particularly bloodthirsty and sadistic Jews have been obscured and denied, hence the infamy of the sequestration of Solzhenitsyn documentary "Two Hundred Years Together" (http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/)
    There were Yagoda (Secret police CheKa), Kaganovich (organizer of Holodomor), Zemlyachka (Zalkind: https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/ - a prototype of Nuland-Kagan), Trotsky (Bronshtein) and others who had been ferociously active in destroying the Russian culture and Russian gene pool of the prominent nobles, merchants, writers, clergy, industrialists, and simply independent-minded people. Surely were some good ideas in Bolshevism, but the same is true about Nazism and Zionism. The Jewish Bolshevik government was a scourge of Russian people.
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  • @Sam Shama
    [But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.]

    The nonsensical tropes abundant in Kevin McDonald's "research", and other esteemable sources such as Stormfront are to be dismissed in the summary manner one reserves for material destined for the dustbins of history.

    Ashkenazi Jewish life is, if anything, deeply steeped in Western cultural traditions of music, literature, science, and technology.

    To say otherwise is to deny that which is undeniable. To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism is to reject the lessons of history so tragically visited upon the nations of Europe and beyond. To fail to acknowledge that Aryan themed claptrap reduces Western values is to reject that which is deepest in the Occidental canon; those values which undergird American Exceptionalism, of Individual effort, responsibility, work and the right to engage in voluntary transactions.

    Pay close attention to events about to unfold. We citizens of America and her allies shall never brook opposition to these glorious principles while the helots of Nazism drink the waters of Lethe and invite oblivion.

    Come on Sam, come clean.

    We goyim have on the evils of the Nazis, can you at least come clean on the Bolshevik terrors and the harm caused by the Jewish left?

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    Hello lavoisier,
    Goyim is not a term I use, nor do any of my Jewish friends. I find it somewhat archaic, even demeaning. I can't imagine why anyone, Christian, Jew or Muslim, would be expected to own the evils of Nazism. The world suffered its consequences and remembers it, hopefully not to repeat.

    Bolshevism a philosophy founded on the principles of democratic centralism, which in itself sounds reasonable enough, suffered deep flaws, being vulnerable to authoritarian takeovers. Certainly, the leadership was comprised of many Jews, but Jews have always been attracted to all manner of political and philosophical movements of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. So yes Jews were Bolshevists. But they were also anti-Bolshevists, communists, anti-communists, capitalists, anti-capitalists, anti-fascists, anti-authoritarianists, monarchists, anti-monarchists etc. You'll find Jews in anything which involves debate and experimentation!

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  • @geokat62

    The nonsensical tropes abundant in Kevin McDonald’s “research”, and other esteemable sources such as Stormfront are to be dismissed in the summary manner one reserves for material destined for the dustbins of history.
     
    I like how you conflate Prof. MacDonald's research with the Stormfront... a very clever attempt at "guilt by association" for those not paying attention.

    The trouble with this line of argument is that it is not Prof. MacDonald who is saying these things. He is merely quoting reputable Jewish sources, like the social scientist and political activist Earl Raab. Here's a little backgrounder on the Stormfonter, Raab:

    Raab is associated with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL), and is executive director emeritus of the Perlmutter Institute for Jewish Advocacy at Brandeis University. He is also a columnist for the San Francisco Jewish Bulletin. Among other works, he is co-author, with Seymour Lipset of The Politics of Unreason: Right Wing-Extremism in America, 1790-1970 (Lipset & Raab 1970), a volume in a series of books on anti-Semitism in the United States sponsored by the ADL.
     
    Or if you prefer something from down under, here is a quote from the Australian branch of The Lobby:

    "The strengthening of multicultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against anti-semitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would feel more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian" - Miriam Faine, an editorial committee member of the Australian Jewish Democrat(in McCormack 1994, p. 11).
     

    To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism is to reject the lessons of history so tragically visited upon the nations of Europe and beyond.
     
    To say they are not involved in mischief is a bald face lie. The evidence is overwhelming... and it doesn't come from the mouths of the goyim, it comes straight from Jewish sources, no less. Speaking of history lessons, it is your co-religionists who fail to heed them. As I continually remonstrate, organized Jewry should cease and desist from continuing to lobby for policies that may be to their short-term advantage, but detrimental to them in the long-term.

    To fail to acknowledge that Aryan themed claptrap reduces Western values is to reject that which is deepest in the Occidental canon; those values which undergird American Exceptionalism...
     
    Not sure why you take issue with Aryan themed claptrap when it is so perfectly aligned with Zionist themed claptrap.

    Pay close attention to events about to unfold.
     
    Pay close attention, indeed. What is about to unfold is as a direct consequence of the nefarious deeds of The Lobby and the chickens will be coming home to roost.

    We citizens of America and her allies shall never brook opposition to these glorious principles while the helots of Nazism drink the waters of Lethe and invite oblivion.
     
    It is abundantly clear to which glorious principles Zionists subscribe, just ask any Palestinian. And it is not the european and european-derived peoples who are inviting oblivion. They are the ones who are actually fighting against oblivion, something that was intentionally set in motion by leading members of The Lobby.

    Tell McDonald [and yourself] to make points without resort to obscure Jews. Second, Jewry is opposed to Nazism, which McDonald dreams of resurrecting. If you call opposing neo-Nazism mischief, you are barking up the wrong tree, rover. This is America, the nation of the brave and scourge of Nazism. Final word; always dial the Lobby when in doubt.

    cheerio.

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    "This is America, the nation of the brave and scourge of Nazism."
    Thanks for the nice formulation.

    For those who are in doubt, here is some educational material:

    "Exposing troubling ties in the U.S. to overt Nazi and fascist protesters in Ukraine:" http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/us-backing-neo-nazis-ukraine

    "BBC now admits that armed Nazis led a revolution in Kiev:" https://journal-neo.org/2014/03/07/bbc-now-admits-armed-nazis-led/

    "U.S. imperialists in bed with Ukrainian fascists:" http://www.reddirtreport.com/prairie-opinions/us-imperialists-bed-ukrainian-fascists

    The Odessa Massacre: Pro-Kiev Loyalists in Action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q

    "...open fascism and neo-Nazi extremism in Ukraine..." http://www.salon.com/2014/02/25/is_the_us_backing_neo_nazis_in_ukraine_partner/

    "Obama, Pentagon clear way to send US aid to Ukraine neo-Nazis:"
    https://www.rt.com/usa/329010-ukraine-neo-nazis-aid/

    "UKRAINE CITY TO HOLD FESTIVAL IN HONOR OF NAZI COLLABORATOR:" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Ukraine-city-to-hold-festival-in-honor-of-Nazi-collaborator-498159

    "Torchlight march: Neo-Nazis mark 73rd anniversary of Ukrainian SS division:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foqRBVlo__k

    "Ukraine nationalists march in Kiev to honour Bandera:" http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30655184

    'The Kagans Are Back; Wars to Follow:" https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/15/the-kagans-are-back-wars-to-follow/

    , @jacques sheete

    Second, Jewry is opposed to Nazism
     
    So how does that explain the Zionists who claimed to be Jews, yet collaborated with Nazis?

    PS: Denying it won't get you very far.
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  • The nonsensical tropes abundant in Kevin McDonald’s “research”, and other esteemable sources such as Stormfront are to be dismissed in the summary manner one reserves for material destined for the dustbins of history.

    I like how you conflate Prof. MacDonald’s research with the Stormfront… a very clever attempt at “guilt by association” for those not paying attention.

    The trouble with this line of argument is that it is not Prof. MacDonald who is saying these things. He is merely quoting reputable Jewish sources, like the social scientist and political activist Earl Raab. Here’s a little backgrounder on the Stormfonter, Raab:

    Raab is associated with the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith (ADL), and is executive director emeritus of the Perlmutter Institute for Jewish Advocacy at Brandeis University. He is also a columnist for the San Francisco Jewish Bulletin. Among other works, he is co-author, with Seymour Lipset of The Politics of Unreason: Right Wing-Extremism in America, 1790-1970 (Lipset & Raab 1970), a volume in a series of books on anti-Semitism in the United States sponsored by the ADL.

    Or if you prefer something from down under, here is a quote from the Australian branch of The Lobby:

    “The strengthening of multicultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against anti-semitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would feel more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian” – Miriam Faine, an editorial committee member of the Australian Jewish Democrat(in McCormack 1994, p. 11).

    To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism is to reject the lessons of history so tragically visited upon the nations of Europe and beyond.

    To say they are not involved in mischief is a bald face lie. The evidence is overwhelming… and it doesn’t come from the mouths of the goyim, it comes straight from Jewish sources, no less. Speaking of history lessons, it is your co-religionists who fail to heed them. As I continually remonstrate, organized Jewry should cease and desist from continuing to lobby for policies that may be to their short-term advantage, but detrimental to them in the long-term.

    To fail to acknowledge that Aryan themed claptrap reduces Western values is to reject that which is deepest in the Occidental canon; those values which undergird American Exceptionalism…

    Not sure why you take issue with Aryan themed claptrap when it is so perfectly aligned with Zionist themed claptrap.

    Pay close attention to events about to unfold.

    Pay close attention, indeed. What is about to unfold is as a direct consequence of the nefarious deeds of The Lobby and the chickens will be coming home to roost.

    We citizens of America and her allies shall never brook opposition to these glorious principles while the helots of Nazism drink the waters of Lethe and invite oblivion.

    It is abundantly clear to which glorious principles Zionists subscribe, just ask any Palestinian. And it is not the european and european-derived peoples who are inviting oblivion. They are the ones who are actually fighting against oblivion, something that was intentionally set in motion by leading members of The Lobby.

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    Tell McDonald [and yourself] to make points without resort to obscure Jews. Second, Jewry is opposed to Nazism, which McDonald dreams of resurrecting. If you call opposing neo-Nazism mischief, you are barking up the wrong tree, rover. This is America, the nation of the brave and scourge of Nazism. Final word; always dial the Lobby when in doubt.

    cheerio.
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  • Oh I am sure our congressman would be in hot water if he did not go.
    This is the Bible belt, and the Jews are “the apple of God’s eye” (Zach.2:8). Everybody knows that. Ask any Christian around here.
    God is going to curse you if you do not support Israel.
    Haven’t you noticed how blessed this land is? Ask any Christian around the Bible belt.

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  • @Art
    The world does change, and you needn’t tell Jews what we know very well. Russia, India, China, Gulf States, KSA, Egypt have all woken up or are at various stages of wakefulness, to the realities of the ME.

    Say Mr. Sam --- are you whistling past the grave yard?

    You are losing in Syria – Russia and Turkey play with you but go their own way, Iran is on your borders. Your ME friends are all run by old world potentates or dictators. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi are all an assassin’s bullet away from an Israeli nightmare.

    But your biggest problem is America’s government – today it is falling apart – it works for Israel but not the American people. You Jews broke it. The only agreement in DC is about Jew inspired sanctions on Russia and Iran. Your leader (Netanyahu) gets standing ovations from congress – the American people get unsolved problems.

    Your Jew divide and conquer identity politics is creating a Moa type cultural revolution that is destroying our history and its good pathos. Clearly your Jew owned MSM is attacking our past.

    Your shame game is starting to fall on deaf ears – the majority of America is fed up with your hate agenda. The worse things get, the surer you Jews will be exposed.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Even with the 24/7 lying Jew media megaphone, fifty percent support Trump on "both sides being responsible" for Charlottesville.

    Art,

    I am impressed with the logical, plain spoken way that you deal with Sam the Sham.

    A few months ago, The Shammie unsuccessfully tried to force P. Giraldi into making a response to one of his typical arrogant Jew elitist comments on U.R.

    I applauded Mr. Giraldi for ignoring Sam Shama and I wish SolontoCroesus could throw Bruno Mali size 14′s at the prick.

    One more matter? The trashing of the Trump administration is THEATER and Charlottesville has done well at advancing ZUSA’s One Party/One Ideology script.

    Do you think The Donald is unaccountable to the wrath of his daughter’s pissed off Manhattan-based rabbi? Oh my… the drama!

    Stay tuned, Art, for the next episode of C.S.I. Kellogg, Brown, & Newt.

    Thanks!

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    Do you think The Donald is unaccountable to the wrath of his daughter’s pissed off Manhattan-based rabbi? Oh my… the drama!


    Chuck,

    That rabbi is a typical Jew – all politics all the time. His culture and upbringing dictates that he must make political hay out this situation. He cannot help himself.

    He illustrates the sick classless nature of the Jew culture. He publicly went tribal and political, over his personal responsibilities as a shepherd. Ivanka is an import person in his religious charge. He chose to take issue and attack her father and embarrass her, rather than protect her. He shamed her father to the world – rather than loving her, and supporting her as her protective spiritual leader. Hurting her, he chose to put a wedge between father and daughter for political tribal gain. He is human trash.

    What defines a Jew is tribal politics – they live in fear of being found out to be what they are. They must continuously keep their neighbors of balance with claims of victimhood. They cannot love their neighbor. It is forbidden.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Me thinks the rabbi will always see Ivanka as a separate goy!
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  • @SolontoCroesus
    the first comment had been deleted -- imperfectly, apparently.

    your reply, otoh, is similarly imperfect. without a firm grasp on ad hominem, you'd have nuthin' Sammy bro.

    and btw -- did you minor in psychiatric diagnosis as part of your economics studies, or is it something you picked up at the local pub?

    Still pulling out the Virginia creeper to allow the Harry Lauder Walking stick to flourish.
    Later

    The first post, through an act of providence, remains; it provides a peek into your own proclivity to indulge in ad hominem, compelling me to ask “do you project much?”

    SolontoCroesus says:
    August 18, 2017 at 6:17 pm GMT

    Damn, Sam

    Shakespeare’s already written, “Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing;” but maybe a slight rearrangement would apply –

    Full of sound and fury, signifying a fart in a windstorm??

    (a really big fart, to be sure . . .)

    One doesn’t require a psychiatric degree to notice the rapid succession of agitated entries, each outdoing the last in attempts at [uncomfortable] glee meant to pass as humour? Sorry, Bro, system failure there.

    Good luck on the Harry Lauder stick’s [what on Earth is it?] progress.

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  • Back in the “Best Generation” time we rooted for the underdog.

    Now we support the murders with our self-pity.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Oh dear. Permit me the laugh, my usual reaction when I read your mental flights of fancy.

    First, I'm confident your knowledge of Israel's bench of scientific talent and the places of origin of its members will rival at most that of a potted plant.

    Second, speaking of AIs, a subject in which I have been involved in certain capacities, is best left alone here. Wouldn't be your cup of tea, I imagine.

    Ada Yonath, Adin Steinsaltz, Aharon Barak, Amos Tversky, Amotz Zahavi, Andrei Broder, Anita Shapira, Asher Peres, Chaim Weizmann, Dahlia Gredinger, Dan Boneh, Dan Shechtman, Daniel Kahneman, David Samuel, 3rd Viscount Samuel, Doron Zeilberger, Ephraim Katzir, Eva Jablonka
    Giora Ram, Hanina Ben-Menahem, Joseph Bernstein, Judea Pearl, Leo Sachs, Liviu Librescu, Louis Guttman, Moshe Wolman, Nathan Rosen of the Einstein-Rosen "Bridge", Reshef Tenne, Robert Aumann, Yakir Aharonov, Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Yitzhak Katznelson, Yuval Ne'eman......

    A tiny list of top mathematicians, linguists, carbon nanotube inventors, AI researchers etc. Only one directly from Russia, Joseph Bernstein. Certainly, Israel, per the nation's charter is sanctuary for Jews escaping persecution or mal-treatment, and benefits from incoming Russian-Jewish emigres. Israel has a fine relationship with Russia. What troubles you in all of this?

    But I should know; your problems are simple. What's that Classical piece I am thinking of? Yes! Respighi's Birdsong; sounds which suggest frantic activity in the envy centre of the brain.

    More seriously, S2C, the wrongheaded ideas you seem to advocate, e.g., what did you say? '[..] pushing foreign nationals to technology jobs....? is pure lowbrow Stormfront dog-feed. Tbh I actually expected something better from you. But no. 'twas not to be. I have no desire to launch into a precis to explain the pitfalls of your idea. An idea worthy of Mahathir Mohammed of Malaysia.

    The world does change, and you needn't tell Jews what we know very well. Russia, India, China, Gulf States, KSA, Egypt have all woken up or are at various stages of wakefulness, to the realities of the ME.

    The world does change, and you needn’t tell Jews what we know very well. Russia, India, China, Gulf States, KSA, Egypt have all woken up or are at various stages of wakefulness, to the realities of the ME.

    Say Mr. Sam — are you whistling past the grave yard?

    You are losing in Syria – Russia and Turkey play with you but go their own way, Iran is on your borders. Your ME friends are all run by old world potentates or dictators. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi are all an assassin’s bullet away from an Israeli nightmare.

    But your biggest problem is America’s government – today it is falling apart – it works for Israel but not the American people. You Jews broke it. The only agreement in DC is about Jew inspired sanctions on Russia and Iran. Your leader (Netanyahu) gets standing ovations from congress – the American people get unsolved problems.

    Your Jew divide and conquer identity politics is creating a Moa type cultural revolution that is destroying our history and its good pathos. Clearly your Jew owned MSM is attacking our past.

    Your shame game is starting to fall on deaf ears – the majority of America is fed up with your hate agenda. The worse things get, the surer you Jews will be exposed.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Even with the 24/7 lying Jew media megaphone, fifty percent support Trump on “both sides being responsible” for Charlottesville.

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    Art,

    I am impressed with the logical, plain spoken way that you deal with Sam the Sham.

    A few months ago, The Shammie unsuccessfully tried to force P. Giraldi into making a response to one of his typical arrogant Jew elitist comments on U.R.

    I applauded Mr. Giraldi for ignoring Sam Shama and I wish SolontoCroesus could throw Bruno Mali size 14's at the prick.

    One more matter? The trashing of the Trump administration is THEATER and Charlottesville has done well at advancing ZUSA's One Party/One Ideology script.

    Do you think The Donald is unaccountable to the wrath of his daughter's pissed off Manhattan-based rabbi? Oh my... the drama!

    Stay tuned, Art, for the next episode of C.S.I. Kellogg, Brown, & Newt.

    Thanks!
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  • @Sam Shama
    Two disjointed replies to a post not addressed to you reek of a state of significant mental agitation, S2C.

    What causes it, one wonders? Could it be the rejection of Nazism from the highest office of the land to the common citizen mother deprived of the life a loved daughter by a Nazi using his car as a weapon?

    Those are the relevant questions of today, which you must answer. Not the flights of fancy into a past of your own creation.

    It is just as well you decided to go among plants in the interlude; life-form better suited for your emissions, both bodily and otherwise, till you are partially relieved of noxium, such that company indoors is somewhat better able to tolerate it, behind every polite smile.

    the first comment had been deleted — imperfectly, apparently.

    your reply, otoh, is similarly imperfect. without a firm grasp on ad hominem, you’d have nuthin’ Sammy bro.

    and btw — did you minor in psychiatric diagnosis as part of your economics studies, or is it something you picked up at the local pub?

    Still pulling out the Virginia creeper to allow the Harry Lauder Walking stick to flourish.
    Later

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    The first post, through an act of providence, remains; it provides a peek into your own proclivity to indulge in ad hominem, compelling me to ask "do you project much?"

    SolontoCroesus says:
    August 18, 2017 at 6:17 pm GMT

    Damn, Sam

    Shakespeare’s already written, “Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing;” but maybe a slight rearrangement would apply –

    Full of sound and fury, signifying a fart in a windstorm??

    (a really big fart, to be sure . . .)


     

    One doesn't require a psychiatric degree to notice the rapid succession of agitated entries, each outdoing the last in attempts at [uncomfortable] glee meant to pass as humour? Sorry, Bro, system failure there.

    Good luck on the Harry Lauder stick's [what on Earth is it?] progress.

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    damn, Sam

    cue the violins!

    No -- make that booming bass drums -- yeah, drums, and cymbals; toss in a couple tongues of fire, that's the ticket.

    The only thing missing from your socko boffo performance is truthiness with its qualities of wholeness and nothing-but-ness.

    later dude;
    working on the garden just now; will apply the Truthiness machine in a bit.

    btw, Priss has your number -- rather, Priss is my inspiration: thanks again, Priss. http://www.unz.com/article/narrative-collapse-is-charlottesvilles-james-alex-fields-the-next-george-zimmerman/#comment-1973140

    Be back in a few minutes; hold your breath (tee hee).

    Two disjointed replies to a post not addressed to you reek of a state of significant mental agitation, S2C.

    What causes it, one wonders? Could it be the rejection of Nazism from the highest office of the land to the common citizen mother deprived of the life a loved daughter by a Nazi using his car as a weapon?

    Those are the relevant questions of today, which you must answer. Not the flights of fancy into a past of your own creation.

    It is just as well you decided to go among plants in the interlude; life-form better suited for your emissions, both bodily and otherwise, till you are partially relieved of noxium, such that company indoors is somewhat better able to tolerate it, behind every polite smile.

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    the first comment had been deleted -- imperfectly, apparently.

    your reply, otoh, is similarly imperfect. without a firm grasp on ad hominem, you'd have nuthin' Sammy bro.

    and btw -- did you minor in psychiatric diagnosis as part of your economics studies, or is it something you picked up at the local pub?

    Still pulling out the Virginia creeper to allow the Harry Lauder Walking stick to flourish.
    Later

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  • You’re absolutely right .. S720 is a serious violation of the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution .. This bill makes boycotting Israel, or advocating such boycott, an illegal act, infringing on our sovereign human/civil rights. It also violates International law for the same reasons.
    Even if S720 were to be passed and signed into law, there’s no way it could ever be enforced. Law Enforcement officers are way too busy dealing with criminal activities nationwide, and that’s one reason lawmakers are peeling away from this clearly unconstitutional bill.
    This bill’s a provocation to turn the US citizenry against Israel and its agents, AIPAC, SPLC and ADL; so, why would these idiotic lawmakers promote such hatred by bringing it up?

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  • damn, Sam

    cue the violins!

    No — make that booming bass drums — yeah, drums, and cymbals; toss in a couple tongues of fire, that’s the ticket.

    The only thing missing from your socko boffo performance is truthiness with its qualities of wholeness and nothing-but-ness.

    later dude;
    working on the garden just now; will apply the Truthiness machine in a bit.

    btw, Priss has your number — rather, Priss is my inspiration: thanks again, Priss. http://www.unz.com/article/narrative-collapse-is-charlottesvilles-james-alex-fields-the-next-george-zimmerman/#comment-1973140

    Be back in a few minutes; hold your breath (tee hee).

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    Two disjointed replies to a post not addressed to you reek of a state of significant mental agitation, S2C.

    What causes it, one wonders? Could it be the rejection of Nazism from the highest office of the land to the common citizen mother deprived of the life a loved daughter by a Nazi using his car as a weapon?

    Those are the relevant questions of today, which you must answer. Not the flights of fancy into a past of your own creation.

    It is just as well you decided to go among plants in the interlude; life-form better suited for your emissions, both bodily and otherwise, till you are partially relieved of noxium, such that company indoors is somewhat better able to tolerate it, behind every polite smile.
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  • @Sam Shama
    [But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.]

    The nonsensical tropes abundant in Kevin McDonald's "research", and other esteemable sources such as Stormfront are to be dismissed in the summary manner one reserves for material destined for the dustbins of history.

    Ashkenazi Jewish life is, if anything, deeply steeped in Western cultural traditions of music, literature, science, and technology.

    To say otherwise is to deny that which is undeniable. To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism is to reject the lessons of history so tragically visited upon the nations of Europe and beyond. To fail to acknowledge that Aryan themed claptrap reduces Western values is to reject that which is deepest in the Occidental canon; those values which undergird American Exceptionalism, of Individual effort, responsibility, work and the right to engage in voluntary transactions.

    Pay close attention to events about to unfold. We citizens of America and her allies shall never brook opposition to these glorious principles while the helots of Nazism drink the waters of Lethe and invite oblivion.

    Damn, Sam

    Shakespeare’s already written, “Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing;” but maybe a slight rearrangement would apply –

    Full of sound and fury, signifying a fart in a windstorm??

    (a really big fart, to be sure . . .)

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  • @lavoisier
    Jewish scientific and technical expertise is legitimate and well-earned. Enormous intellectual contributions have come from Jewish scientists and engineers.

    But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.

    [But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.]

    The nonsensical tropes abundant in Kevin McDonald’s “research”, and other esteemable sources such as Stormfront are to be dismissed in the summary manner one reserves for material destined for the dustbins of history.

    Ashkenazi Jewish life is, if anything, deeply steeped in Western cultural traditions of music, literature, science, and technology.

    To say otherwise is to deny that which is undeniable. To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism is to reject the lessons of history so tragically visited upon the nations of Europe and beyond. To fail to acknowledge that Aryan themed claptrap reduces Western values is to reject that which is deepest in the Occidental canon; those values which undergird American Exceptionalism, of Individual effort, responsibility, work and the right to engage in voluntary transactions.

    Pay close attention to events about to unfold. We citizens of America and her allies shall never brook opposition to these glorious principles while the helots of Nazism drink the waters of Lethe and invite oblivion.

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    Damn, Sam

    Shakespeare's already written, "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing;" but maybe a slight rearrangement would apply --

    Full of sound and fury, signifying a fart in a windstorm??

    (a really big fart, to be sure . . .)

    , @lavoisier
    Come on Sam, come clean.

    We goyim have on the evils of the Nazis, can you at least come clean on the Bolshevik terrors and the harm caused by the Jewish left?
    , @SolontoCroesus

    To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism
     
    I've been thinking about your comment all evening; wrote about a thousand words in response.

    It occurred to me that the words I wrote attempted to read your mind to answer the question, "what is the virus of Nazism?"

    What I think you think defines "the virus of Nazism" is irrelevant.

    Please explain how you define "the virus of Nazism."
    In your analysis, What is pathological about Nazism?
    With moral clarity and specifics -- Who did what to whom, when and why -- define the "virus of Nazism," s'il vous plait.

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  • @annamaria
    "All three branches of the US government are subservient to Israel."

    And thus the beauty of the US government cooperation with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. The cooperation had been initiated by the prominent ziocons from the Kagans' clan and supported by the prominent ziocons owning the MSM. There is no way to separate the Lobby' benevolent "tolerance" of Ukrainian neo-Nazis from the hypocrisy of the Congressional squeakers about Jewish Holocaust. The memory of the WWII victims has been insulted thoroughly by the US policies in Ukraine.
    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/08/us-building-naval-base-in-ochakov.html
    "...there are three polygons (training grounds) at which American instructors are training Ukrainian soldiers for the Anti-Terrorist Operation zone in Donbass. Moreover, American instructors are training not only UAF unit personnel, but also some Nazi groups, in particular Right Sector. On the one hand, US Congressmen have demanded that American military aid not to be distributed to Nazi battalions such as Azov and others. On the other hand, American commandos are secretly training Ukrainian Nazis in at least in one place - Transcarpathia."
    The Azov battalion used to be financed by the Israeli citizen Kolomojsky. The Kiev-junta loyal Azov battalion was involved in burning the dozens of civilians alive during Odessa massacre of 2014 (a pregnant woman was one of the victims): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q
    None of the murderers were punished.

    The memory of the WWII victims has been insulted thoroughly by the US policies in Ukraine.

    I’m aware of your perspective, annamaria, so I think I understand why you wrote the above.

    But — two points:

    1. Perhaps the “memory of WWII victims” is not so much “insulted” but rather exposed: exposed for the fraud that much of it is, at least wrt to so many “survivors” and also to the complicity of many of Allied forces in crimes against humanity.

    2. With respect to who gets to claim victim status, Who oversees that? Were the thousands upon thousands of French civilians who were killed by Allied terror bombing victims? Do they get to claim reparations from US and British?
    How about the hundreds of thousands of German civilians who were victims of Allied terror bombing? Victims? or did they deserve to be incinerated for the crime of being German?
    How about the many thousands of Italilan children who were orphaned in the war? The Allies rained down most of the firepower that devastated Italy in WWII. Did those children deserve to be rendered homeless and parentless for the crime of being born in Italy?

    I’ve had it up to here w/ Jewish victimhood. continuing to prate about “victimhood” is to pay the bar tab for a dangerous drunk. This drunk is adept at avoiding hitting the wall; he needs a robust intervention, beginning with cutting off his supply of intoxicant.

    In a speech in Washington in 2015 both Peter Falk and Gideon Levy enumerated the principles that allow Jews in Israel to live side-by-side with the brutal occupation of Palestine:

    I’ll just give you the three principles which enable us Israelis to live so easily with this brutal reality.

    Most of Israelis but not all of them DEEPLY believe that we are the chosen people and if we are the chosen people we have the right to do whatever we want.
    There were more brutal occupations in history, there were longer occupations in history, even tho the Israel occupation gets to quite a nice record.
    But there was never an occupation in which the occupier presented himself as the victim. Not only the victim the Only victim around. This also enable any Israeli to live in peace because we are the victims.

    Jews were involved at the highest level in the conflicts in Russia, Europe, Ottoman; Jews were among the primary beneficiaries of those wars; and Jews claim to be history’s sole and unique and perpetual victims.

    A heady intoxicant indeed.
    But like all such intoxicating substances, divorced from reality and ultimately destructive of the human and social psyche

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  • @annamaria
    "All three branches of the US government are subservient to Israel."

    And thus the beauty of the US government cooperation with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. The cooperation had been initiated by the prominent ziocons from the Kagans' clan and supported by the prominent ziocons owning the MSM. There is no way to separate the Lobby' benevolent "tolerance" of Ukrainian neo-Nazis from the hypocrisy of the Congressional squeakers about Jewish Holocaust. The memory of the WWII victims has been insulted thoroughly by the US policies in Ukraine.
    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/08/us-building-naval-base-in-ochakov.html
    "...there are three polygons (training grounds) at which American instructors are training Ukrainian soldiers for the Anti-Terrorist Operation zone in Donbass. Moreover, American instructors are training not only UAF unit personnel, but also some Nazi groups, in particular Right Sector. On the one hand, US Congressmen have demanded that American military aid not to be distributed to Nazi battalions such as Azov and others. On the other hand, American commandos are secretly training Ukrainian Nazis in at least in one place - Transcarpathia."
    The Azov battalion used to be financed by the Israeli citizen Kolomojsky. The Kiev-junta loyal Azov battalion was involved in burning the dozens of civilians alive during Odessa massacre of 2014 (a pregnant woman was one of the victims): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q
    None of the murderers were punished.

    Remember, we are the exceptional nation. We can do anything we like. We can condemn Hitler but we can also train the neo-nazis. We can call ISIS a terrorist organization in Iraq but we can fight side-by-side with them in Syria. We can bomb Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan but we can help them in Yemen. The word hypocrisy comes to mind. Our representatives should be rightly called members of the American Knesset. We can condemn North Korea for having nuclear weapons but keep mum about the nuclear weapons that Israel has. We can put an Arab in jail for meeting/talking/sympathizing with a terrorist but it is OK for John McCain and Lindsey Graham to be photographed with know terrorists in Syria.

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  • @Carroll Price
    All three branches of the US government are subservient to Israel.

    “All three branches of the US government are subservient to Israel.”

    And thus the beauty of the US government cooperation with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. The cooperation had been initiated by the prominent ziocons from the Kagans’ clan and supported by the prominent ziocons owning the MSM. There is no way to separate the Lobby’ benevolent “tolerance” of Ukrainian neo-Nazis from the hypocrisy of the Congressional squeakers about Jewish Holocaust. The memory of the WWII victims has been insulted thoroughly by the US policies in Ukraine.

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/08/us-building-naval-base-in-ochakov.html

    “…there are three polygons (training grounds) at which American instructors are training Ukrainian soldiers for the Anti-Terrorist Operation zone in Donbass. Moreover, American instructors are training not only UAF unit personnel, but also some Nazi groups, in particular Right Sector. On the one hand, US Congressmen have demanded that American military aid not to be distributed to Nazi battalions such as Azov and others. On the other hand, American commandos are secretly training Ukrainian Nazis in at least in one place – Transcarpathia.”
    The Azov battalion used to be financed by the Israeli citizen Kolomojsky. The Kiev-junta loyal Azov battalion was involved in burning the dozens of civilians alive during Odessa massacre of 2014 (a pregnant woman was one of the victims):

    None of the murderers were punished.

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    Remember, we are the exceptional nation. We can do anything we like. We can condemn Hitler but we can also train the neo-nazis. We can call ISIS a terrorist organization in Iraq but we can fight side-by-side with them in Syria. We can bomb Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan but we can help them in Yemen. The word hypocrisy comes to mind. Our representatives should be rightly called members of the American Knesset. We can condemn North Korea for having nuclear weapons but keep mum about the nuclear weapons that Israel has. We can put an Arab in jail for meeting/talking/sympathizing with a terrorist but it is OK for John McCain and Lindsey Graham to be photographed with know terrorists in Syria.
    , @SolontoCroesus

    The memory of the WWII victims has been insulted thoroughly by the US policies in Ukraine.
     
    I'm aware of your perspective, annamaria, so I think I understand why you wrote the above.

    But -- two points:

    1. Perhaps the "memory of WWII victims" is not so much "insulted" but rather exposed: exposed for the fraud that much of it is, at least wrt to so many "survivors" and also to the complicity of many of Allied forces in crimes against humanity.

    2. With respect to who gets to claim victim status, Who oversees that? Were the thousands upon thousands of French civilians who were killed by Allied terror bombing victims? Do they get to claim reparations from US and British?
    How about the hundreds of thousands of German civilians who were victims of Allied terror bombing? Victims? or did they deserve to be incinerated for the crime of being German?
    How about the many thousands of Italilan children who were orphaned in the war? The Allies rained down most of the firepower that devastated Italy in WWII. Did those children deserve to be rendered homeless and parentless for the crime of being born in Italy?

    I've had it up to here w/ Jewish victimhood. continuing to prate about "victimhood" is to pay the bar tab for a dangerous drunk. This drunk is adept at avoiding hitting the wall; he needs a robust intervention, beginning with cutting off his supply of intoxicant.

    In a speech in Washington in 2015 both Peter Falk and Gideon Levy enumerated the principles that allow Jews in Israel to live side-by-side with the brutal occupation of Palestine:

    I’ll just give you the three principles which enable us Israelis to live so easily with this brutal reality.


    Most of Israelis but not all of them DEEPLY believe that we are the chosen people and if we are the chosen people we have the right to do whatever we want.
    There were more brutal occupations in history, there were longer occupations in history, even tho the Israel occupation gets to quite a nice record.
    But there was never an occupation in which the occupier presented himself as the victim. Not only the victim the Only victim around. This also enable any Israeli to live in peace because we are the victims.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO3eBxQX7Q


    Jews were involved at the highest level in the conflicts in Russia, Europe, Ottoman; Jews were among the primary beneficiaries of those wars; and Jews claim to be history's sole and unique and perpetual victims.

    A heady intoxicant indeed.
    But like all such intoxicating substances, divorced from reality and ultimately destructive of the human and social psyche

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  • @RobinG
    Hey Geo,

    This is a monumental documentary. I'm up to the burning of the Fed. Bldg. in Odessa. Hilligula made that. May she burn in Hell forever.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSx8HJfBl7U
    8 Months in Ukraine (Euromaidan - MH17)

    Some nations have been engaged in building, others in destruction and saughter. “The 2014 Ukraine Coup Was as Much About China as Russia. Eurasian Trade and the New Silk Road:”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2014-ukraine-coup-was-as-much-about-china-as-russia-eurasian-trade-and-the-new-silk-road/5604387

    “The EU was supposed to be the last minute savior of Ukraine as fascist street-fighters and foreign mercenaries with fresh injections of American money readied a violent coup.
    It was on the 20th of February 2014 that the Foreign Ministers of EU member states France, Germany, and Poland convened in Kiev to broker a deal that was supposed to bring stability. Instead, it brought about a genocidal war on the people of Donbass … The deal also brought wide scale corruption in an already deeply corrupt place as well as total economic collapse that continues to get worse by the day.
    Most ominously, the then Polish Foreign Minister who helped broker the deal which the insurgents had no intention of keeping, told representatives of the radicals that if they did not sign the agreement “you’ll all be dead”. The truth is that the death came and continues to come not from those who opposed the coup but from those who came to power as a result of the coup.
    The routes of China’s New Silk Road still plan on partly traveling through Ukraine, but the current regime in Ukraine will doubtlessly make such matters more difficult for China…”

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  • @Andrei Martyanov
    It is absolutely astounding, unprecedented that powerful nation has its main legislative body to be completely subservient to some foreign entity. Un-freaking-believable. I can even understand bribes and sinecures from MIC or other businesses--it is bad but at least this doesn't amount to a direct treason. US Congress is a complete disgrace, well--no surprise they barely rank above Al Qaeda in their "approval" rating. Disgusting, especially sappy sentimentalism and cringe worthy pathos towards Israel.

    All three branches of the US government are subservient to Israel.

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    "All three branches of the US government are subservient to Israel."

    And thus the beauty of the US government cooperation with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. The cooperation had been initiated by the prominent ziocons from the Kagans' clan and supported by the prominent ziocons owning the MSM. There is no way to separate the Lobby' benevolent "tolerance" of Ukrainian neo-Nazis from the hypocrisy of the Congressional squeakers about Jewish Holocaust. The memory of the WWII victims has been insulted thoroughly by the US policies in Ukraine.
    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/08/us-building-naval-base-in-ochakov.html
    "...there are three polygons (training grounds) at which American instructors are training Ukrainian soldiers for the Anti-Terrorist Operation zone in Donbass. Moreover, American instructors are training not only UAF unit personnel, but also some Nazi groups, in particular Right Sector. On the one hand, US Congressmen have demanded that American military aid not to be distributed to Nazi battalions such as Azov and others. On the other hand, American commandos are secretly training Ukrainian Nazis in at least in one place - Transcarpathia."
    The Azov battalion used to be financed by the Israeli citizen Kolomojsky. The Kiev-junta loyal Azov battalion was involved in burning the dozens of civilians alive during Odessa massacre of 2014 (a pregnant woman was one of the victims): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q
    None of the murderers were punished.
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  • @Wally
    The most used tactic in these indoctrination tours of "that shitty little country" is to take politicians to the Holocau$t Theme Park known as Yad Vashem, a veritable Potemkin Village of stagecraft and downright lies, a bloated version of the taxpayer funded & supported US Holocau$t Theme Park in Washington, DC.

    The 'holocaust' scam is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    3 Wally > The most used tactic in these indoctrination tours of “that shitty little country” is to take politicians to the Holocau$t Theme Park known as Yad Vashem

    not true.

    The most used tactic is to take them to a hilltop in Samaria, hand them an ordinary rifle with a Walmart-grade hunting scope, and tell them to look to the West.

    When they see with their own eyes that they can target individuals on the beach in Tel Aviv…… then that’s all she wrote.

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  • @Reality Check
    replying here so it may be seen: Thought you would find this new propaganda app (act.il) interesting I copied this from one of their pages touting it’s effectiveness. - A new propaganda app for israel’s thousands of internet trolls, act.il : “A new app ‘arms’ thousands of motivated civilians worldwide, defending Israel’s image online” … “We had about 1,000 volunteers, most of them students from the IDC, who created pro-Israel PR content in 35 different languages, reaching some 40 million web users.” …

    Oops..I had characters in the rest of the post that aren’t recognized. Here’s the rest without the bolded text: we started working from the operations room on a regular basis. We had a database of student volunteers from dozens of countries, and it became more and more organized. We started setting up departments: One department created pro-Israeli marketing content, another department found and marked online articles that required our attention, and a third department dealt with finding and reporting pages that incite against Israel.” … Within only two weeks, it was downloaded by over 6,000 people in 27 countries around the world … “In the months before the app’s launch, we ran it a pilot among a group of some 800 students, most of them Americans,” … During the pilot period, we were able to remove 2-5 inciting pages or videos every week. We’re working with the IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] and the Shin Bet [Israeli version of the FBI], who are giving us information on such inciting content, and even they couldn’t keep us with how fast we were getting things removed.” … “Companies, such as Facebook, remove content following reports from the community,” Ben-Yosef explains. “If there is only one person reporting it, he usually gets told by Facebook the content doesn’t meet the criteria for removal. If 300 report it—the content is removed immediately. As soon as content inciting against Israel is posted online, we send a message through the app and all of its subscribers immediately report it.” … “Students from the University of California (UC), where there are a lot of anti-Israel activists, came to us for help,” Briga says. “We organized a joint campaign, in which we opened Skype chats at the IDC and at

    UC campuses and we let random students just sit down and have a conversation with someone from here

    [Israel].

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  • @geokat62

    But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?
     

    I'll let Earl Raab answer these questions:

    A congruent opinion is expressed by prominent Jewish social scientist and political activist Earl Raab’ who remarks very positively on the success of revised American immigration policy in altering the ethnic composition of the United States since 1965. Raab notes that the Jewish community has taken a leadership role in changing the Northwestern European bias of American immigration policy (1993a, p. 17), and he has also maintained that one factor inhibiting anti-Semitism in the contemporary United States is that “(a)n increasing ethnic heterogeneity, as a result of immigration, has made it even more difficult for a political party or mass movement of bigotry to develop” (1995, p. 91). Or more colorfully:

    The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country. We [i.e., Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever (Raab, 1993b, p. 23).
     
    Indeed, the “primary objective” of Jewish political activity after 1945 “was … to prevent the emergence of an anti-Semitic reactionary mass movement in the United States” (Svonkin 1997,1998). - . 300 of Kevin MacDonald's Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
     

    Hey Geo,

    This is a monumental documentary. I’m up to the burning of the Fed. Bldg. in Odessa. Hilligula made that. May she burn in Hell forever.

    8 Months in Ukraine (Euromaidan – MH17)

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    Some nations have been engaged in building, others in destruction and saughter. "The 2014 Ukraine Coup Was as Much About China as Russia. Eurasian Trade and the New Silk Road:"
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2014-ukraine-coup-was-as-much-about-china-as-russia-eurasian-trade-and-the-new-silk-road/5604387
    “The EU was supposed to be the last minute savior of Ukraine as fascist street-fighters and foreign mercenaries with fresh injections of American money readied a violent coup.
    It was on the 20th of February 2014 that the Foreign Ministers of EU member states France, Germany, and Poland convened in Kiev to broker a deal that was supposed to bring stability. Instead, it brought about a genocidal war on the people of Donbass ... The deal also brought wide scale corruption in an already deeply corrupt place as well as total economic collapse that continues to get worse by the day.
    Most ominously, the then Polish Foreign Minister who helped broker the deal which the insurgents had no intention of keeping, told representatives of the radicals that if they did not sign the agreement “you’ll all be dead”. The truth is that the death came and continues to come not from those who opposed the coup but from those who came to power as a result of the coup.
    The routes of China’s New Silk Road still plan on partly traveling through Ukraine, but the current regime in Ukraine will doubtlessly make such matters more difficult for China..."
    , @geokat62

    This is a monumental documentary.
     
    Hey, Robin. Monumental, indeed. That said, it is well worth watching as it underscores the contradictory nature of two narratives the Luggenpresse of Weimerica (LOW) have been propagating, depending on the particular circumstances... what some might be call situational morality.

    In preparation for the invasion of Iraq, the LOW was selling the narrative that Saddam was a brutal dictator who was bent on killing his own people (the truth was, as we now know, he was keeping a tight lid on the Islamists who were keen on establishing a caliphate in the region).

    In the Ukrainian theatre, on the other hand, instead of pushing the same line and condemning the junta in Kiev for killing its own people, the LOW is now propagating the false narrative that the junta has "every right to secure its sovereignty and its borders," and, therefore, can deal with the "terrorists" as they see fit, even by shelling them with Grads in their homes, schools, and hospitals.

    So in Iraq, the Kurds and Shia (who were seeking autonomy) were freedom fighters, while in Ukraine, the people (who are seeking autonomy) are "terrorists."

    The contradiction between these two narratives cannot be any greater.

    But just like the documentary about The Magnitsky Act, Behind the Scenes, something tells me the American people will never get a chance to see this documentary about what is really transpiring in eastern Ukraine. Can you even imagine 60 minutes airing something like this? I can't.

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  • @lavoisier
    Jewish scientific and technical expertise is legitimate and well-earned. Enormous intellectual contributions have come from Jewish scientists and engineers.

    But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.

    But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    I’ll let Earl Raab answer these questions:

    A congruent opinion is expressed by prominent Jewish social scientist and political activist Earl Raab’ who remarks very positively on the success of revised American immigration policy in altering the ethnic composition of the United States since 1965. Raab notes that the Jewish community has taken a leadership role in changing the Northwestern European bias of American immigration policy (1993a, p. 17), and he has also maintained that one factor inhibiting anti-Semitism in the contemporary United States is that “(a)n increasing ethnic heterogeneity, as a result of immigration, has made it even more difficult for a political party or mass movement of bigotry to develop” (1995, p. 91). Or more colorfully:

    The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country. We [i.e., Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever (Raab, 1993b, p. 23).

    Indeed, the “primary objective” of Jewish political activity after 1945 “was … to prevent the emergence of an anti-Semitic reactionary mass movement in the United States” (Svonkin 1997,1998). – . 300 of Kevin MacDonald’s Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review

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    Hey Geo,

    This is a monumental documentary. I'm up to the burning of the Fed. Bldg. in Odessa. Hilligula made that. May she burn in Hell forever.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSx8HJfBl7U
    8 Months in Ukraine (Euromaidan - MH17)
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  • @Sam Shama
    You wrote much nonsense, nary a word which hasn't graced the predictable sandlots of UR. Yawn.

    Left you stunned, didn’t it. Truth has a way of doing that.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Oh dear. Permit me the laugh, my usual reaction when I read your mental flights of fancy.

    First, I'm confident your knowledge of Israel's bench of scientific talent and the places of origin of its members will rival at most that of a potted plant.

    Second, speaking of AIs, a subject in which I have been involved in certain capacities, is best left alone here. Wouldn't be your cup of tea, I imagine.

    Ada Yonath, Adin Steinsaltz, Aharon Barak, Amos Tversky, Amotz Zahavi, Andrei Broder, Anita Shapira, Asher Peres, Chaim Weizmann, Dahlia Gredinger, Dan Boneh, Dan Shechtman, Daniel Kahneman, David Samuel, 3rd Viscount Samuel, Doron Zeilberger, Ephraim Katzir, Eva Jablonka
    Giora Ram, Hanina Ben-Menahem, Joseph Bernstein, Judea Pearl, Leo Sachs, Liviu Librescu, Louis Guttman, Moshe Wolman, Nathan Rosen of the Einstein-Rosen "Bridge", Reshef Tenne, Robert Aumann, Yakir Aharonov, Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Yitzhak Katznelson, Yuval Ne'eman......

    A tiny list of top mathematicians, linguists, carbon nanotube inventors, AI researchers etc. Only one directly from Russia, Joseph Bernstein. Certainly, Israel, per the nation's charter is sanctuary for Jews escaping persecution or mal-treatment, and benefits from incoming Russian-Jewish emigres. Israel has a fine relationship with Russia. What troubles you in all of this?

    But I should know; your problems are simple. What's that Classical piece I am thinking of? Yes! Respighi's Birdsong; sounds which suggest frantic activity in the envy centre of the brain.

    More seriously, S2C, the wrongheaded ideas you seem to advocate, e.g., what did you say? '[..] pushing foreign nationals to technology jobs....? is pure lowbrow Stormfront dog-feed. Tbh I actually expected something better from you. But no. 'twas not to be. I have no desire to launch into a precis to explain the pitfalls of your idea. An idea worthy of Mahathir Mohammed of Malaysia.

    The world does change, and you needn't tell Jews what we know very well. Russia, India, China, Gulf States, KSA, Egypt have all woken up or are at various stages of wakefulness, to the realities of the ME.

    Jewish scientific and technical expertise is legitimate and well-earned. Enormous intellectual contributions have come from Jewish scientists and engineers.

    But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.

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    But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?
     

    I'll let Earl Raab answer these questions:

    A congruent opinion is expressed by prominent Jewish social scientist and political activist Earl Raab’ who remarks very positively on the success of revised American immigration policy in altering the ethnic composition of the United States since 1965. Raab notes that the Jewish community has taken a leadership role in changing the Northwestern European bias of American immigration policy (1993a, p. 17), and he has also maintained that one factor inhibiting anti-Semitism in the contemporary United States is that “(a)n increasing ethnic heterogeneity, as a result of immigration, has made it even more difficult for a political party or mass movement of bigotry to develop” (1995, p. 91). Or more colorfully:

    The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country. We [i.e., Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever (Raab, 1993b, p. 23).
     
    Indeed, the “primary objective” of Jewish political activity after 1945 “was … to prevent the emergence of an anti-Semitic reactionary mass movement in the United States” (Svonkin 1997,1998). - . 300 of Kevin MacDonald's Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
     
    , @Sam Shama
    [But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.]

    The nonsensical tropes abundant in Kevin McDonald's "research", and other esteemable sources such as Stormfront are to be dismissed in the summary manner one reserves for material destined for the dustbins of history.

    Ashkenazi Jewish life is, if anything, deeply steeped in Western cultural traditions of music, literature, science, and technology.

    To say otherwise is to deny that which is undeniable. To say Jews are involved in mischief when they oppose the virus of Nazism is to reject the lessons of history so tragically visited upon the nations of Europe and beyond. To fail to acknowledge that Aryan themed claptrap reduces Western values is to reject that which is deepest in the Occidental canon; those values which undergird American Exceptionalism, of Individual effort, responsibility, work and the right to engage in voluntary transactions.

    Pay close attention to events about to unfold. We citizens of America and her allies shall never brook opposition to these glorious principles while the helots of Nazism drink the waters of Lethe and invite oblivion.

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  • @jacques sheete

    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation.
     
    Who are the US and Israel calling terrorist organizations? Are they looking in the mirror? Ever hear of the Irgun? A terrorist organization that stunk so bad that the Israeli government admitted it and supposedly disbanded it.

    Israeli authorities in Jerusalem today handed the Irgun Zvai Leumi an ultimatum to liquidate itself as an independent organization and demanded that all its members immediately enlist in the Israeli Army, without attaching any conditions to their service. This is the latest in a series of antiterrorist activities initiated by the government in the wake of the assassination in Jerusalem last Friday of U.N. mediator Count Folke Bernadotte and his French aide, Col. Andre Serot.

    Irgun Accepts Govt. Ultimatum to Disband; Israel Erects Detention Camp for Terrorists
    Jewish Telegraphic Agency, September 21, 1948
    TEL AVIV (Sep. 20)
    http://www.jta.org/1948/09/21/archive/irgun-accepts-govt-ultimatum-to-disband-israel-erects-detention-camp-for-terrorists

     

    .

    When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel.
     
    Now that's hilarious. From a former Israeli fighter and Knesset memeber himself.:

    The entire [Israeli] military and civilian environment seems to be infected by corruption, as in a failed African state.

    Uri Avnery, "Anyone But Bibi" 12/08/17
    http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1502458442/

     

    Would it be too much to ask that you clean your own tush first?

    A story (video) by Abby Martin who actually visited the Israel-occupied territories: http://thesaker.is/abby-martin-speaks-the-plain-truth-about-the-zionist-regime-in-palestine/
    Very educational. The existence of torture chambers for minors was confirmed by the former Israelis on many occasions. “Never again,” indeed. An obvious moral rot of the “chosen” and a rather tragic transformation of the former victim into a murderous villain. The transformation would have been aborted a long time ago if not the power of the Lobby and Friends of Israel.
    There was once upon a time a sentimental dream that took on a shape of Oded Yinon Plan and PNAC and other “humanitarian” interventions that have resulted in the multitude of dead and mutilated children, the destroyed states (the formerly functioning ones, where women could study at the universities), and the ongoing humanitarian disaster of refugees. In short, the crimes of Zionism have been catching up with the crimes of Nazism. And this is without taking into consideration the Bolshevik revolution.

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  • @MEexpert

    Israel left Gaza and inherited an irritating headache in the process. The conditions Gazans are living under? You mean when they are not digging tunnels to smuggle arms and drugs?
     
    If Israel left Gaza then why did it inherit the "irritating headache." The irritating headache is self inflicted by not letting Gaza go. Its cure is very simple. Let Gaza alone. Lift the siege. Let people who want to help the people in Gaza through. If people of Gaza are allowed to come and go as they please, as in a free country," there won't be any need for them to dig tunnels. The billions Egypt gets in bribes from the US helps Israel in keeping Gazans pinned down in the so-called "largest open-air prison" in the world.

    The Palestinian leadership is but a nest of thieves, quite happy to rob its own people.
     
    It is funny thieves calling other people thieves. Thievery is in your DNA. Your beginning is in the theft of "birth rights." Since then all your people have done is to steal and murder and asked for hand outs.

    there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel.
     
    Yes, BDS is one sign that people are "realizing" it. That is why Israel is terrified and wants its poodles, the US congressmen and senators, to criminalize it. There have been more US vetoes in the UN, in support of Israel" to suppress this "realization" by the people of the world.

    including India, led by Mr. Modi, who strongly endorsed this attitude in his recent visit to Israel.
     
    Funny you should give example of another thief and murderer to support Israel's behavior. Modi murdered several innocent people in the Indian state of Gujrat, not unlike Netanyahu and Israel. Why not? Thieves must band together. Although officially classified as a communalist riot, the events of 2002 in the state of Gujrat, have been described as a pogrom by many scholars.

    You wrote much nonsense, nary a word which hasn’t graced the predictable sandlots of UR. Yawn.

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    Left you stunned, didn't it. Truth has a way of doing that.
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  • @annamaria
    How to promote antisemitism: http://www.globalresearch.ca/love-for-israel-senate-bill-s720-making-it-a-crime-to-support-palestinian-human-rights/5603963
    "...by making illegal either the act of boycotting Israel, or advocating for such a boycott, S720 is criminalizing free speech and stifling legitimate peaceful protest.
    Since S720 quickly gained 48 co-sponsors (35 Republicans and 13 Democrats) and has been supported by AIPAC and the Anti-Defamation League, one might have expected it to sail effortlessly through the Congress and be put on the President’s desk for his signature. That, however, has not been the case due to the efforts of many, including the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and other progressive organizations led by MoveOn.
    While the ACLU has based its opposition on the concern that the legislation violates the free speech rights of American citizens, MoveOn has taken a more expansive approach addressing both the concern with free speech and the fact that 720 “erases the distinction in US law between Israel and Israeli settlements”.

    Here we are, an appendix to Israel. Idiots.

    replying here so it may be seen: Thought you would find this new propaganda app (act.il) interesting I copied this from one of their pages touting it’s effectiveness. – A new propaganda app for israel’s thousands of internet trolls, act.il : “A new app ‘arms’ thousands of motivated civilians worldwide, defending Israel’s image online” … “We had about 1,000 volunteers, most of them students from the IDC, who created pro-Israel PR content in 35 different languages, reaching some 40 million web users.” …

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    Oops..I had characters in the rest of the post that aren't recognized. Here's the rest without the bolded text: we started working from the operations room on a regular basis. We had a database of student volunteers from dozens of countries, and it became more and more organized. We started setting up departments: One department created pro-Israeli marketing content, another department found and marked online articles that required our attention, and a third department dealt with finding and reporting pages that incite against Israel.” … Within only two weeks, it was downloaded by over 6,000 people in 27 countries around the world … “In the months before the app’s launch, we ran it a pilot among a group of some 800 students, most of them Americans,” … During the pilot period, we were able to remove 2-5 inciting pages or videos every week. We’re working with the IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] and the Shin Bet [Israeli version of the FBI], who are giving us information on such inciting content, and even they couldn’t keep us with how fast we were getting things removed.” … “Companies, such as Facebook, remove content following reports from the community,” Ben-Yosef explains. “If there is only one person reporting it, he usually gets told by Facebook the content doesn’t meet the criteria for removal. If 300 report it—the content is removed immediately. As soon as content inciting against Israel is posted online, we send a message through the app and all of its subscribers immediately report it.” … “Students from the University of California (UC), where there are a lot of anti-Israel activists, came to us for help,” Briga says. “We organized a joint campaign, in which we opened Skype chats at the IDC and at

    UC campuses and we let random students just sit down and have a conversation with someone from here

    [Israel].

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    Sammy Sammy Sammy.
    Poor dear Sam.
    The LAST thing you want is for people to Wake Up.

    In fact, that's your biggest problem: People ARE waking up.

    Herzl wrote, "If you will it, it is no dream," while Hollywood created "the American dream" and sold it for years as the touchstone of American culture.

    Herzl was right: for Jews, it was not a dream: they knew what they were doing when they popped sleeping tablets into the American cultural bloodstream: we are waking up to the nightmare.

    ---

    Your job, Sammy my good bro, appears to be to keep us comfy in our sweet slumbers.


    Y'know, I'm just starting to research Artificial Intelligence -- how machines can talk to machines; and machines can be programmed -- by other machines -- to carry out repetitive processes.

    From "2001: A Space Odyssey," we know that machines have human names: "Open the pod door, Hal."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o09L-hkrzhw

    I think Sam Shama is a walking - talking hasbara machine, programmed by Unit 8200, working for Israeli MFA.

    Your tax dollars at work.

    We also know - because Dan Señor wrote about it in "StartUp Nation," that the brain-power behind Unit 8200 came from Russia --

    --- off on a tangent: ain't it ironic: in the 1980s Israel was in the early stages of economic crisis; I recall reports about how its education system, too, was failing. So they stirred up turmoil in Russia, got USA to pay for real-or-faux Jews to migrate to Israel, taking with them the superb technological education acquired from Russian institutions (without, of course, compensating Russian taxpayers who payed for those institutions -- it's the Israeli way: don't be a freier), then voila, Israeli is a technological superstar.

    Your tax dollars working overtime.

    So in a way, it WAS the Russians who "interfered" with US elections -- Russian technology deployed by Unit 8200, MFA, and the Unz forum's own hasbara bot.

    there oughta be a better word for hasbara bot .

    Any suggestions?

    ShamBot?
    BotSham and JetSam?

    -- but back to the ironic part: So Jews get all these highly educated Russians to take their Russia-provided technological capital to Israel and deploy it to the benefit of Jews in Israel. Israel prospers thereby.

    -- simultaneously, Israel firsters dumb down the American people by taking control of US education system at all levels.

    -- THEN they push the system of flooding USA with foreign nationals to take technology jobs that those American young people indebted themselves to acquire the skills to perform.

    Oh dear. Permit me the laugh, my usual reaction when I read your mental flights of fancy.

    First, I’m confident your knowledge of Israel’s bench of scientific talent and the places of origin of its members will rival at most that of a potted plant.

    Second, speaking of AIs, a subject in which I have been involved in certain capacities, is best left alone here. Wouldn’t be your cup of tea, I imagine.

    Ada Yonath, Adin Steinsaltz, Aharon Barak, Amos Tversky, Amotz Zahavi, Andrei Broder, Anita Shapira, Asher Peres, Chaim Weizmann, Dahlia Gredinger, Dan Boneh, Dan Shechtman, Daniel Kahneman, David Samuel, 3rd Viscount Samuel, Doron Zeilberger, Ephraim Katzir, Eva Jablonka
    Giora Ram, Hanina Ben-Menahem, Joseph Bernstein, Judea Pearl, Leo Sachs, Liviu Librescu, Louis Guttman, Moshe Wolman, Nathan Rosen of the Einstein-Rosen “Bridge”, Reshef Tenne, Robert Aumann, Yakir Aharonov, Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Yitzhak Katznelson, Yuval Ne’eman……

    A tiny list of top mathematicians, linguists, carbon nanotube inventors, AI researchers etc. Only one directly from Russia, Joseph Bernstein. Certainly, Israel, per the nation’s charter is sanctuary for Jews escaping persecution or mal-treatment, and benefits from incoming Russian-Jewish emigres. Israel has a fine relationship with Russia. What troubles you in all of this?

    But I should know; your problems are simple. What’s that Classical piece I am thinking of? Yes! Respighi’s Birdsong; sounds which suggest frantic activity in the envy centre of the brain.

    More seriously, S2C, the wrongheaded ideas you seem to advocate, e.g., what did you say? ‘[..] pushing foreign nationals to technology jobs….? is pure lowbrow Stormfront dog-feed. Tbh I actually expected something better from you. But no. ’twas not to be. I have no desire to launch into a precis to explain the pitfalls of your idea. An idea worthy of Mahathir Mohammed of Malaysia.

    The world does change, and you needn’t tell Jews what we know very well. Russia, India, China, Gulf States, KSA, Egypt have all woken up or are at various stages of wakefulness, to the realities of the ME.

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    Jewish scientific and technical expertise is legitimate and well-earned. Enormous intellectual contributions have come from Jewish scientists and engineers.

    But where is the wisdom in fucking up Western civilization with Jewish mischief and malice towards the goyim?

    What is to be gained with this insane agenda pushed by far too many Jews?

    All of us, including Jews, are harmed by this malice.
    , @Art
    The world does change, and you needn’t tell Jews what we know very well. Russia, India, China, Gulf States, KSA, Egypt have all woken up or are at various stages of wakefulness, to the realities of the ME.

    Say Mr. Sam --- are you whistling past the grave yard?

    You are losing in Syria – Russia and Turkey play with you but go their own way, Iran is on your borders. Your ME friends are all run by old world potentates or dictators. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi are all an assassin’s bullet away from an Israeli nightmare.

    But your biggest problem is America’s government – today it is falling apart – it works for Israel but not the American people. You Jews broke it. The only agreement in DC is about Jew inspired sanctions on Russia and Iran. Your leader (Netanyahu) gets standing ovations from congress – the American people get unsolved problems.

    Your Jew divide and conquer identity politics is creating a Moa type cultural revolution that is destroying our history and its good pathos. Clearly your Jew owned MSM is attacking our past.

    Your shame game is starting to fall on deaf ears – the majority of America is fed up with your hate agenda. The worse things get, the surer you Jews will be exposed.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Even with the 24/7 lying Jew media megaphone, fifty percent support Trump on "both sides being responsible" for Charlottesville.
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  • Thought you would find this new propaganda app (act.il) interesting I copied this from one of their pages touting it’s effectiveness. – A new propaganda app for israel’s thousands of internet trolls, act.il : “A new app ‘arms’ thousands of motivated civilians worldwide, defending Israel’s image online” … “We had about 1,000 volunteers, most of them students from the IDC, who created pro-Israel PR content in 35 different languages, reaching some 40 million web users.” …

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  • The Syrian (Israeli) saga: http://theduran.com/russian-demands-investigation-allegations-us-uk-supplied-chemical-weapons-terrorists/
    “… chemical weapons confirmed by the OPCW [Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapon] to be in the hands of terrorists in Aleppo and Damascus are said to have derived from the US and UK. … This crucial information that Russia intends to verify as soon as possible not only validates an OPCW report and mission which signed off on the fact that the Syrian government has not possessed chemical weapons since 2014, but that the terrorists in Syria which have been known to use such weapons may have obtained them via the United States and the United Kingdom.”

    http://yournewswire.com/clinton-email-we-must-destroy-syria-for-israel/

    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/israel-makes-it-official-destruction-syria-will-legitimize-israeli-land-grabs/ri19676

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  • @Sam Shama

    Do they go over there to talk to the Palestinians to find out the conditions they are living under Israeli occupation?
     
    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation. Israel left Gaza and inherited an irritating headache in the process. The conditions Gazans are living under? You mean when they are not digging tunnels to smuggle arms and drugs? The Palestinian leadership is but a nest of thieves, quite happy to rob its own people. When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel. Many nations are arriving at this very POV, including India, led by Mr. Modi, who strongly endorsed this attitude in his recent visit to Israel.

    Wake up.

    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation.

    Who are the US and Israel calling terrorist organizations? Are they looking in the mirror? Ever hear of the Irgun? A terrorist organization that stunk so bad that the Israeli government admitted it and supposedly disbanded it.

    Israeli authorities in Jerusalem today handed the Irgun Zvai Leumi an ultimatum to liquidate itself as an independent organization and demanded that all its members immediately enlist in the Israeli Army, without attaching any conditions to their service. This is the latest in a series of antiterrorist activities initiated by the government in the wake of the assassination in Jerusalem last Friday of U.N. mediator Count Folke Bernadotte and his French aide, Col. Andre Serot.

    Irgun Accepts Govt. Ultimatum to Disband; Israel Erects Detention Camp for Terrorists
    Jewish Telegraphic Agency, September 21, 1948
    TEL AVIV (Sep. 20)

    http://www.jta.org/1948/09/21/archive/irgun-accepts-govt-ultimatum-to-disband-israel-erects-detention-camp-for-terrorists

    .

    When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel.

    Now that’s hilarious. From a former Israeli fighter and Knesset memeber himself.:

    The entire [Israeli] military and civilian environment seems to be infected by corruption, as in a failed African state.

    Uri Avnery, “Anyone But Bibi” 12/08/17

    http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1502458442/

    Would it be too much to ask that you clean your own tush first?

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    A story (video) by Abby Martin who actually visited the Israel-occupied territories: http://thesaker.is/abby-martin-speaks-the-plain-truth-about-the-zionist-regime-in-palestine/
    Very educational. The existence of torture chambers for minors was confirmed by the former Israelis on many occasions. "Never again," indeed. An obvious moral rot of the "chosen" and a rather tragic transformation of the former victim into a murderous villain. The transformation would have been aborted a long time ago if not the power of the Lobby and Friends of Israel.
    There was once upon a time a sentimental dream that took on a shape of Oded Yinon Plan and PNAC and other "humanitarian" interventions that have resulted in the multitude of dead and mutilated children, the destroyed states (the formerly functioning ones, where women could study at the universities), and the ongoing humanitarian disaster of refugees. In short, the crimes of Zionism have been catching up with the crimes of Nazism. And this is without taking into consideration the Bolshevik revolution.
    , @Sam Shama
    Ah, I had missed this one, from our resident holiest-of-all, passive-aggressive bitter-righteous-sheete-in chief, M. Jacques!

    Let's see. What have you to say which requires a response? Nothing substantial.

    Who is the U.S. to call Hamas a terrorist organisation? Who is Israel? Well, Jacques, they'd be two nations who can and do. American Dept of State pronounces Hamas a terrorist organisation with sufficient cause. You calling America whatever grabs your interest is not of any consequence. You seem to live in a highly conflicted mental world of your own making. Any State Depts. you can name which make statements based on a strict code of academic ethics? Or morality? If you find it, set sail for that mythical land without delay!

    Avnery had some good ideas but in the end proved too much of a dreamer. His own mother disowned him.

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  • @Chris Mallory
    No, it does not mean that. When my ancestors came here it was a howling wilderness inhabited by savage tribes that had not even invented the wheel. They conquered those tribes and colonized this land, creating a nation. This nation was left to the descendants of those Founders. But if your paternal ancestors were not citizens of this new nation in 1788, then yes you should go back. All immigration has been harmful to the nation founded by my ancestors.

    But if your paternal ancestors were not citizens of this new nation in 1788, then yes you should go back

    Interesting. The population of the US in 1790 was 697,681 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_historical_population )

    So, it would seem that the majority of everyone’s ancestors came after that date including most Europeans. So whom would you send back (ignoring the fact the no nation would “take back” an 8th generation descendant of a emigrant from that nation over 200 years ago, even if you have an algorithm for identifying those individuals)?

    We can certainly stem the flood of today’s immigrants into the country, but could we stop blathering about “sending back” people who were born here? Our population is destined to continue to be a hybrid of multiple cultures and ethnic groups. That train has long left the station. The best any particular segment of our populace can hope to do if they want to have a critical mass of representation, is get busy in bed and pump out more children, consuming more of this planet’s depleting resources.

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    Ok, if you want to stay, you drop the Irish-, Italian-, German-, Jewish-, and every other hyphenation used to bastardize AMERICAN. You learn to speak English and convert to a Protestant Christian sect. If you don't want to do all that, you have to go back.
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  • @Sam Shama

    Do they go over there to talk to the Palestinians to find out the conditions they are living under Israeli occupation?
     
    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation. Israel left Gaza and inherited an irritating headache in the process. The conditions Gazans are living under? You mean when they are not digging tunnels to smuggle arms and drugs? The Palestinian leadership is but a nest of thieves, quite happy to rob its own people. When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel. Many nations are arriving at this very POV, including India, led by Mr. Modi, who strongly endorsed this attitude in his recent visit to Israel.

    Wake up.

    Israel left Gaza and inherited an irritating headache in the process. The conditions Gazans are living under? You mean when they are not digging tunnels to smuggle arms and drugs?

    If Israel left Gaza then why did it inherit the “irritating headache.” The irritating headache is self inflicted by not letting Gaza go. Its cure is very simple. Let Gaza alone. Lift the siege. Let people who want to help the people in Gaza through. If people of Gaza are allowed to come and go as they please, as in a free country,” there won’t be any need for them to dig tunnels. The billions Egypt gets in bribes from the US helps Israel in keeping Gazans pinned down in the so-called “largest open-air prison” in the world.

    The Palestinian leadership is but a nest of thieves, quite happy to rob its own people.

    It is funny thieves calling other people thieves. Thievery is in your DNA. Your beginning is in the theft of “birth rights.” Since then all your people have done is to steal and murder and asked for hand outs.

    there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel.

    Yes, BDS is one sign that people are “realizing” it. That is why Israel is terrified and wants its poodles, the US congressmen and senators, to criminalize it. There have been more US vetoes in the UN, in support of Israel” to suppress this “realization” by the people of the world.

    including India, led by Mr. Modi, who strongly endorsed this attitude in his recent visit to Israel.

    Funny you should give example of another thief and murderer to support Israel’s behavior. Modi murdered several innocent people in the Indian state of Gujrat, not unlike Netanyahu and Israel. Why not? Thieves must band together. Although officially classified as a communalist riot, the events of 2002 in the state of Gujrat, have been described as a pogrom by many scholars.

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    You wrote much nonsense, nary a word which hasn't graced the predictable sandlots of UR. Yawn.
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  • Remembering the Liberty: http://thesaker.is/remembering-the-liberty/
    “In the meantime, the original mast with the US flag had been hit – and the Liberty sailors raised a new larger American flag.
    The forward torpedo boat opened fire on the defenseless ship. This would provide cover for the attacking boats to get close and launch their torpedoes. Though crippled himself and with a crippled ship operating with one engine, McGonagle attempted evasive maneuvers. Of the 5 torpedoes launched by the Israelis, one hit – creating a gash 24 ft high and 39 ft wide. The Liberty listed by 8 degrees; the entire intelligence section was instantly flooded trapping and killing 20 people.
    Now the torpedo boats halted fire while remaining at less than 800 yards from the Liberty. Still shocked, amazed and in disbelief, the Liberty signaled repeatedly with a hand-held Aldis lamp, “US Naval Ship.” “
    Do you need any help?” signaled the Israelis. A response that, in the circumstances, was almost adding insult to injury. “No” signaled back the Liberty.
    The torpedo boats had not yet departed when two oncoming Israeli helicopters circled the ship. Fearful of more attacks, McGonagle had the international flag hoisted signaling “Not Under Command.”
    At 6.40 PM another Israeli helicopter arrived and dropped a bag containing a business card from the US Naval Attaché at the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, Ernest Castle. On the back of the card there was a hand-written question, “Have you any casualties?” Which seemed another insult added to injury. The Liberty’s deck was a wreck, still strewn with blood and some dead sailors… impossible to miss.

    The main objective (inside the White House and notably with Johnson and McNamara), was not to antagonize Israel, along with the fear of not appearing sufficiently pro-Israel with the cadre of Israeli-firsters that comprised advisers, consultants, aids and secretaries within the Administration.
    There were multiple meetings and exchanges between Jewish members of White House and the Israeli Embassy in Washington. Cynically, some suggested that the attack on the Liberty could help weaken the accusations of American support for Israel, and gain some credibility with the Arabs.
    It was now clear that the Administration had (or for that matter has) no leverage with the Jewish state. … the plan for a Greater Israel has not been canceled. During his administration, Obama declared that peace with the Palestinians should be achieved on the basis of returning to Palestine the lands occupied in 1967. Next day, uninvited, the Prime Minister of Israel, flew to Washington to deliver a counter-speech to the joint audience of Congress and the Senate. He received 29 standing ovations. And how about Jewish influence? Here is a quote from the Los Angeles Times from Joel Stein, “I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.”

    Don’t forget the traitorous McCain family; the daddy had been most instrumental in whitewashing the “Liberty incident, ” while the son has become known as Tokyo Rose and the best buddy of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

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    It would have been interesting to hear the conversation between Admiral John S McCain and Admiral George Morrison, who wanted to send help to the Liberty but was countermanded by Admiral McCain. BTW, Admiral Morrison was the father of "Doors" front man, Jim Morrison...
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  • @SolontoCroesus
    Sammy Sammy Sammy.
    Poor dear Sam.
    The LAST thing you want is for people to Wake Up.

    In fact, that's your biggest problem: People ARE waking up.

    Herzl wrote, "If you will it, it is no dream," while Hollywood created "the American dream" and sold it for years as the touchstone of American culture.

    Herzl was right: for Jews, it was not a dream: they knew what they were doing when they popped sleeping tablets into the American cultural bloodstream: we are waking up to the nightmare.

    ---

    Your job, Sammy my good bro, appears to be to keep us comfy in our sweet slumbers.


    Y'know, I'm just starting to research Artificial Intelligence -- how machines can talk to machines; and machines can be programmed -- by other machines -- to carry out repetitive processes.

    From "2001: A Space Odyssey," we know that machines have human names: "Open the pod door, Hal."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o09L-hkrzhw

    I think Sam Shama is a walking - talking hasbara machine, programmed by Unit 8200, working for Israeli MFA.

    Your tax dollars at work.

    We also know - because Dan Señor wrote about it in "StartUp Nation," that the brain-power behind Unit 8200 came from Russia --

    --- off on a tangent: ain't it ironic: in the 1980s Israel was in the early stages of economic crisis; I recall reports about how its education system, too, was failing. So they stirred up turmoil in Russia, got USA to pay for real-or-faux Jews to migrate to Israel, taking with them the superb technological education acquired from Russian institutions (without, of course, compensating Russian taxpayers who payed for those institutions -- it's the Israeli way: don't be a freier), then voila, Israeli is a technological superstar.

    Your tax dollars working overtime.

    So in a way, it WAS the Russians who "interfered" with US elections -- Russian technology deployed by Unit 8200, MFA, and the Unz forum's own hasbara bot.

    there oughta be a better word for hasbara bot .

    Any suggestions?

    ShamBot?
    BotSham and JetSam?

    -- but back to the ironic part: So Jews get all these highly educated Russians to take their Russia-provided technological capital to Israel and deploy it to the benefit of Jews in Israel. Israel prospers thereby.

    -- simultaneously, Israel firsters dumb down the American people by taking control of US education system at all levels.

    -- THEN they push the system of flooding USA with foreign nationals to take technology jobs that those American young people indebted themselves to acquire the skills to perform.

    And people are waking up: http://thesaker.is/remembering-the-liberty/
    from the comment section:
    “Just on the basis of the $38 Billion 10 year aid package that Obama signed off on, Israel gets over $10 million per day. And there are multiple other aid that gets sent to them that adds up to 100s of millions more.
    Senator Lindsey Graham of the US Knesset is on record saying that the aid package was way too small and he vowed to increase it. http://news.antiwar.com/2016/09/14/senator-38-billion-israel-aid-deal-not-enough/
    The senator who was visiting Israel and reporting to his masters at a time the deal was signed was so upset, that he reportedly told the Israeli prime minister that Obama could go f… himself.
    The US is an Israeli vassal state and it has to pay tribute to Zion and do its bidding.
    The Liberty incident is just one of many that proved long ago the power and corrosiveness of Jewish influence in America.
    Today Trump’s presidency is being derailed largely because Zion wants it derailed.
    No matter how much support the US gives to Israel it will never be enough.
    Never…”

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  • @Sam Shama

    Do they go over there to talk to the Palestinians to find out the conditions they are living under Israeli occupation?
     
    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation. Israel left Gaza and inherited an irritating headache in the process. The conditions Gazans are living under? You mean when they are not digging tunnels to smuggle arms and drugs? The Palestinian leadership is but a nest of thieves, quite happy to rob its own people. When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel. Many nations are arriving at this very POV, including India, led by Mr. Modi, who strongly endorsed this attitude in his recent visit to Israel.

    Wake up.

    Sammy Sammy Sammy.
    Poor dear Sam.
    The LAST thing you want is for people to Wake Up.

    In fact, that’s your biggest problem: People ARE waking up.

    Herzl wrote, “If you will it, it is no dream,” while Hollywood created “the American dream” and sold it for years as the touchstone of American culture.

    Herzl was right: for Jews, it was not a dream: they knew what they were doing when they popped sleeping tablets into the American cultural bloodstream: we are waking up to the nightmare.

    Your job, Sammy my good bro, appears to be to keep us comfy in our sweet slumbers.

    Y’know, I’m just starting to research Artificial Intelligence — how machines can talk to machines; and machines can be programmed — by other machines — to carry out repetitive processes.

    From “2001: A Space Odyssey,” we know that machines have human names: “Open the pod door, Hal.”

    I think Sam Shama is a walking – talking hasbara machine, programmed by Unit 8200, working for Israeli MFA.

    Your tax dollars at work.

    We also know – because Dan Señor wrote about it in “StartUp Nation,” that the brain-power behind Unit 8200 came from Russia —

    — off on a tangent: ain’t it ironic: in the 1980s Israel was in the early stages of economic crisis; I recall reports about how its education system, too, was failing. So they stirred up turmoil in Russia, got USA to pay for real-or-faux Jews to migrate to Israel, taking with them the superb technological education acquired from Russian institutions (without, of course, compensating Russian taxpayers who payed for those institutions — it’s the Israeli way: don’t be a freier), then voila, Israeli is a technological superstar.

    Your tax dollars working overtime.

    So in a way, it WAS the Russians who “interfered” with US elections — Russian technology deployed by Unit 8200, MFA, and the Unz forum’s own hasbara bot.

    there oughta be a better word for hasbara bot .

    Any suggestions?

    ShamBot?
    BotSham and JetSam?

    – but back to the ironic part: So Jews get all these highly educated Russians to take their Russia-provided technological capital to Israel and deploy it to the benefit of Jews in Israel. Israel prospers thereby.

    – simultaneously, Israel firsters dumb down the American people by taking control of US education system at all levels.

    – THEN they push the system of flooding USA with foreign nationals to take technology jobs that those American young people indebted themselves to acquire the skills to perform.

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    And people are waking up: http://thesaker.is/remembering-the-liberty/
    from the comment section:
    "Just on the basis of the $38 Billion 10 year aid package that Obama signed off on, Israel gets over $10 million per day. And there are multiple other aid that gets sent to them that adds up to 100s of millions more.
    Senator Lindsey Graham of the US Knesset is on record saying that the aid package was way too small and he vowed to increase it. http://news.antiwar.com/2016/09/14/senator-38-billion-israel-aid-deal-not-enough/
    The senator who was visiting Israel and reporting to his masters at a time the deal was signed was so upset, that he reportedly told the Israeli prime minister that Obama could go f… himself.
    The US is an Israeli vassal state and it has to pay tribute to Zion and do its bidding.
    The Liberty incident is just one of many that proved long ago the power and corrosiveness of Jewish influence in America.
    Today Trump’s presidency is being derailed largely because Zion wants it derailed.
    No matter how much support the US gives to Israel it will never be enough.
    Never…"
    , @Sam Shama
    Oh dear. Permit me the laugh, my usual reaction when I read your mental flights of fancy.

    First, I'm confident your knowledge of Israel's bench of scientific talent and the places of origin of its members will rival at most that of a potted plant.

    Second, speaking of AIs, a subject in which I have been involved in certain capacities, is best left alone here. Wouldn't be your cup of tea, I imagine.

    Ada Yonath, Adin Steinsaltz, Aharon Barak, Amos Tversky, Amotz Zahavi, Andrei Broder, Anita Shapira, Asher Peres, Chaim Weizmann, Dahlia Gredinger, Dan Boneh, Dan Shechtman, Daniel Kahneman, David Samuel, 3rd Viscount Samuel, Doron Zeilberger, Ephraim Katzir, Eva Jablonka
    Giora Ram, Hanina Ben-Menahem, Joseph Bernstein, Judea Pearl, Leo Sachs, Liviu Librescu, Louis Guttman, Moshe Wolman, Nathan Rosen of the Einstein-Rosen "Bridge", Reshef Tenne, Robert Aumann, Yakir Aharonov, Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Yitzhak Katznelson, Yuval Ne'eman......

    A tiny list of top mathematicians, linguists, carbon nanotube inventors, AI researchers etc. Only one directly from Russia, Joseph Bernstein. Certainly, Israel, per the nation's charter is sanctuary for Jews escaping persecution or mal-treatment, and benefits from incoming Russian-Jewish emigres. Israel has a fine relationship with Russia. What troubles you in all of this?

    But I should know; your problems are simple. What's that Classical piece I am thinking of? Yes! Respighi's Birdsong; sounds which suggest frantic activity in the envy centre of the brain.

    More seriously, S2C, the wrongheaded ideas you seem to advocate, e.g., what did you say? '[..] pushing foreign nationals to technology jobs....? is pure lowbrow Stormfront dog-feed. Tbh I actually expected something better from you. But no. 'twas not to be. I have no desire to launch into a precis to explain the pitfalls of your idea. An idea worthy of Mahathir Mohammed of Malaysia.

    The world does change, and you needn't tell Jews what we know very well. Russia, India, China, Gulf States, KSA, Egypt have all woken up or are at various stages of wakefulness, to the realities of the ME.

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  • @MEexpert

    Every freshman tour goes to, at least the borders of Gaza, which includes typically a stop at the Erez Crossing to check security concerns at these crossings.
     
    Going to the Gaza border or to the check point does not constitute visiting Gaza. Do they go over there to talk to the Palestinians to find out the conditions they are living under Israeli occupation? The answer is big fat NO. Israel will never allow them to find out how she treats Palestinians.

    John Kerry, Brian Baird, and Keith Ellison were on an official visit to see Gaza and talk to United Nation officials. They did not go on an Israeli planned wining, dinning, and "educational" tour.

    Hamas is a terrorist organisation according to the U.S. State Department.

     

    Only because Israel wants it that way and US does not have a choice but to comply. Hamas is at war with Israel. Warring parties are not called terrorists. Hamas is fighting the occupiers. If any one should be labeled a terrorists, it should be Israel.


    I will grant you that you may know more about Israel but Gulf, I don't think so. And yes I speak Arabic and few other languages.

    Do they go over there to talk to the Palestinians to find out the conditions they are living under Israeli occupation?

    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation. Israel left Gaza and inherited an irritating headache in the process. The conditions Gazans are living under? You mean when they are not digging tunnels to smuggle arms and drugs? The Palestinian leadership is but a nest of thieves, quite happy to rob its own people. When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel. Many nations are arriving at this very POV, including India, led by Mr. Modi, who strongly endorsed this attitude in his recent visit to Israel.

    Wake up.

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    Sammy Sammy Sammy.
    Poor dear Sam.
    The LAST thing you want is for people to Wake Up.

    In fact, that's your biggest problem: People ARE waking up.

    Herzl wrote, "If you will it, it is no dream," while Hollywood created "the American dream" and sold it for years as the touchstone of American culture.

    Herzl was right: for Jews, it was not a dream: they knew what they were doing when they popped sleeping tablets into the American cultural bloodstream: we are waking up to the nightmare.

    ---

    Your job, Sammy my good bro, appears to be to keep us comfy in our sweet slumbers.


    Y'know, I'm just starting to research Artificial Intelligence -- how machines can talk to machines; and machines can be programmed -- by other machines -- to carry out repetitive processes.

    From "2001: A Space Odyssey," we know that machines have human names: "Open the pod door, Hal."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o09L-hkrzhw

    I think Sam Shama is a walking - talking hasbara machine, programmed by Unit 8200, working for Israeli MFA.

    Your tax dollars at work.

    We also know - because Dan Señor wrote about it in "StartUp Nation," that the brain-power behind Unit 8200 came from Russia --

    --- off on a tangent: ain't it ironic: in the 1980s Israel was in the early stages of economic crisis; I recall reports about how its education system, too, was failing. So they stirred up turmoil in Russia, got USA to pay for real-or-faux Jews to migrate to Israel, taking with them the superb technological education acquired from Russian institutions (without, of course, compensating Russian taxpayers who payed for those institutions -- it's the Israeli way: don't be a freier), then voila, Israeli is a technological superstar.

    Your tax dollars working overtime.

    So in a way, it WAS the Russians who "interfered" with US elections -- Russian technology deployed by Unit 8200, MFA, and the Unz forum's own hasbara bot.

    there oughta be a better word for hasbara bot .

    Any suggestions?

    ShamBot?
    BotSham and JetSam?

    -- but back to the ironic part: So Jews get all these highly educated Russians to take their Russia-provided technological capital to Israel and deploy it to the benefit of Jews in Israel. Israel prospers thereby.

    -- simultaneously, Israel firsters dumb down the American people by taking control of US education system at all levels.

    -- THEN they push the system of flooding USA with foreign nationals to take technology jobs that those American young people indebted themselves to acquire the skills to perform.
    , @MEexpert

    Israel left Gaza and inherited an irritating headache in the process. The conditions Gazans are living under? You mean when they are not digging tunnels to smuggle arms and drugs?
     
    If Israel left Gaza then why did it inherit the "irritating headache." The irritating headache is self inflicted by not letting Gaza go. Its cure is very simple. Let Gaza alone. Lift the siege. Let people who want to help the people in Gaza through. If people of Gaza are allowed to come and go as they please, as in a free country," there won't be any need for them to dig tunnels. The billions Egypt gets in bribes from the US helps Israel in keeping Gazans pinned down in the so-called "largest open-air prison" in the world.

    The Palestinian leadership is but a nest of thieves, quite happy to rob its own people.
     
    It is funny thieves calling other people thieves. Thievery is in your DNA. Your beginning is in the theft of "birth rights." Since then all your people have done is to steal and murder and asked for hand outs.

    there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel.
     
    Yes, BDS is one sign that people are "realizing" it. That is why Israel is terrified and wants its poodles, the US congressmen and senators, to criminalize it. There have been more US vetoes in the UN, in support of Israel" to suppress this "realization" by the people of the world.

    including India, led by Mr. Modi, who strongly endorsed this attitude in his recent visit to Israel.
     
    Funny you should give example of another thief and murderer to support Israel's behavior. Modi murdered several innocent people in the Indian state of Gujrat, not unlike Netanyahu and Israel. Why not? Thieves must band together. Although officially classified as a communalist riot, the events of 2002 in the state of Gujrat, have been described as a pogrom by many scholars.
    , @jacques sheete

    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation.
     
    Who are the US and Israel calling terrorist organizations? Are they looking in the mirror? Ever hear of the Irgun? A terrorist organization that stunk so bad that the Israeli government admitted it and supposedly disbanded it.

    Israeli authorities in Jerusalem today handed the Irgun Zvai Leumi an ultimatum to liquidate itself as an independent organization and demanded that all its members immediately enlist in the Israeli Army, without attaching any conditions to their service. This is the latest in a series of antiterrorist activities initiated by the government in the wake of the assassination in Jerusalem last Friday of U.N. mediator Count Folke Bernadotte and his French aide, Col. Andre Serot.

    Irgun Accepts Govt. Ultimatum to Disband; Israel Erects Detention Camp for Terrorists
    Jewish Telegraphic Agency, September 21, 1948
    TEL AVIV (Sep. 20)
    http://www.jta.org/1948/09/21/archive/irgun-accepts-govt-ultimatum-to-disband-israel-erects-detention-camp-for-terrorists

     

    .

    When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel.
     
    Now that's hilarious. From a former Israeli fighter and Knesset memeber himself.:

    The entire [Israeli] military and civilian environment seems to be infected by corruption, as in a failed African state.

    Uri Avnery, "Anyone But Bibi" 12/08/17
    http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1502458442/

     

    Would it be too much to ask that you clean your own tush first?
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  • Hi PG, we are that jewel in the crown, providing the Empire with all her needs under the supervision of the Raj, aka all branches of government, and control of all information to the subjects aka MSM.
    The good thing about the old Imperialism is that the majority of the subjects ruled knew they were being ruled. We on the other hand are so fooled with rhetoric, Hollywood propaganda, Messages of toughness from our cuck Rajes, it’s gonna take a long time to wake up and break off the chains of Zionist servitude Until then the Emperor comes first and the subjects have to be ready to sacrifice their lives for the crown. Like Cotton, they have to be proud, it’s the only way to prove your patriotism

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  • @Chris Mallory
    No, it does not mean that. When my ancestors came here it was a howling wilderness inhabited by savage tribes that had not even invented the wheel. They conquered those tribes and colonized this land, creating a nation. This nation was left to the descendants of those Founders. But if your paternal ancestors were not citizens of this new nation in 1788, then yes you should go back. All immigration has been harmful to the nation founded by my ancestors.

    All immigration has been harmful to the nation founded by my ancestors.

    Which Indian tribe did your ancestors belong to?

    If the American Indians had a better immigration policy, we would not have this problem today.

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    The American Indians were stone age savages who did not have a nation. There was no nation here until it was founded by the British colonists.
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  • @Cloak And Dagger

    Let them go to the Middle East, Africa, and Asia where they belong.
     
    By that logic, should we self-deport ourselves back to Europe where we belong? Many of these semites/muslims were born here, just as you (presumably) and I were, even though our ancestors came from across the ocean.

    No, it does not mean that. When my ancestors came here it was a howling wilderness inhabited by savage tribes that had not even invented the wheel. They conquered those tribes and colonized this land, creating a nation. This nation was left to the descendants of those Founders. But if your paternal ancestors were not citizens of this new nation in 1788, then yes you should go back. All immigration has been harmful to the nation founded by my ancestors.

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    All immigration has been harmful to the nation founded by my ancestors.
     
    Which Indian tribe did your ancestors belong to?

    If the American Indians had a better immigration policy, we would not have this problem today.
    , @Cloak And Dagger

    But if your paternal ancestors were not citizens of this new nation in 1788, then yes you should go back
     
    Interesting. The population of the US in 1790 was 697,681 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_historical_population )

    So, it would seem that the majority of everyone's ancestors came after that date including most Europeans. So whom would you send back (ignoring the fact the no nation would "take back" an 8th generation descendant of a emigrant from that nation over 200 years ago, even if you have an algorithm for identifying those individuals)?

    We can certainly stem the flood of today's immigrants into the country, but could we stop blathering about "sending back" people who were born here? Our population is destined to continue to be a hybrid of multiple cultures and ethnic groups. That train has long left the station. The best any particular segment of our populace can hope to do if they want to have a critical mass of representation, is get busy in bed and pump out more children, consuming more of this planet's depleting resources.
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  • Israel is upset with the possibility of no more mass slaughter in Syria. http://www.voltairenet.org/article197530.html
    “An Israeli delegation will be received at the White House this week. The agenda: Syria.
    The three members of the Israeli delegation are:
    • Yossi Cohen, Head of Mossad (Foreign Intelligence);
    • General Herzl Halevi, Head of Aman (Military Intelligence); and
    • Colonel Zohar Palti, Head of Military and Political Affairs at the Ministry of Defense.
    This delegation will meet with the following US representatives:
    • General H.R. McMaster, National Security Advisor;
    • Dina Powell, Vice National Security Advisor; and
    • Jason Greenblatt, The President’s representative for international negotiations.
    The three members of the Israeli delegation and Trump’s representative (Jason Greenblatt), all four of them are Jewish Orthodox. As for Dina Powell, she was involved in the assassination of Rafiq Hariri and planning the “Arab Springs”.
    No escape from the clutches of the voracious parasite.

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  • @Chris Mallory
    As long as they are not in my nation, I don't care about Muslims one way or the other. I do support mass deportations of all Semites and other assorted Muslims from my nation. Let them go to the Middle East, Africa, and Asia where they belong.

    Let them go to the Middle East, Africa, and Asia where they belong.

    By that logic, should we self-deport ourselves back to Europe where we belong? Many of these semites/muslims were born here, just as you (presumably) and I were, even though our ancestors came from across the ocean.

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    No, it does not mean that. When my ancestors came here it was a howling wilderness inhabited by savage tribes that had not even invented the wheel. They conquered those tribes and colonized this land, creating a nation. This nation was left to the descendants of those Founders. But if your paternal ancestors were not citizens of this new nation in 1788, then yes you should go back. All immigration has been harmful to the nation founded by my ancestors.
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  • @MEexpert

    Inference as to or from my persona as Wizard of Oz is what the MEexpert poseur was referring to and it was what I was clearly referring to.
     
    Yes he is Wizardd of Oz. But in his case instead of Wizard pulling strings from behind the curtain, his Masters are pulling the Wizard's strings. He himself has no valid opinion or argument. He and Sam Sharma specialize in questioning others and calling them names. I mostly ignore people like them but will throw an occasional bone towards them.

    But if your bones have neither meat nor marrow and are not presented with humour or as satire you must fail in whatever effect you sre hoping to achieve on anyone not already in your glee club.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Congressmen do go to Gaza when the security environment permits. Every freshman tour goes to, at least the borders of Gaza, which includes typically a stop at the Erez Crossing to check security concerns at these crossings. Reps. Brian Baird, D-Washington, and Keith Ellison, D-Minnesota, who is the first Muslim to serve in the U.S. Congress have all spent time in Gaza. John Kerry went on a few occasions as well. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) and Mark Pocan (D-Wis.) after denied entry for reasons of security are slated to visit.

    None have met with Hamas nor plan to. Hamas is a terrorist organisation according to the U.S. State Department. Are you Hamas?

    I am confident I know more about Israel and its neighbourhood than you do. Ditto the Gulf. Do you speak Hebrew or Arabic?

    Every freshman tour goes to, at least the borders of Gaza, which includes typically a stop at the Erez Crossing to check security concerns at these crossings.

    Going to the Gaza border or to the check point does not constitute visiting Gaza. Do they go over there to talk to the Palestinians to find out the conditions they are living under Israeli occupation? The answer is big fat NO. Israel will never allow them to find out how she treats Palestinians.

    John Kerry, Brian Baird, and Keith Ellison were on an official visit to see Gaza and talk to United Nation officials. They did not go on an Israeli planned wining, dinning, and “educational” tour.

    Hamas is a terrorist organisation according to the U.S. State Department.

    Only because Israel wants it that way and US does not have a choice but to comply. Hamas is at war with Israel. Warring parties are not called terrorists. Hamas is fighting the occupiers. If any one should be labeled a terrorists, it should be Israel.

    I will grant you that you may know more about Israel but Gulf, I don’t think so. And yes I speak Arabic and few other languages.

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    Do they go over there to talk to the Palestinians to find out the conditions they are living under Israeli occupation?
     
    The U.S. will not dignify Hamas, a terrorist organisation. Israel left Gaza and inherited an irritating headache in the process. The conditions Gazans are living under? You mean when they are not digging tunnels to smuggle arms and drugs? The Palestinian leadership is but a nest of thieves, quite happy to rob its own people. When Palestinians decide their benefit lies in working with Israel, and there are some signs the people are realising this, they can be the proud citizens of a modern state and an ally of Israel. Many nations are arriving at this very POV, including India, led by Mr. Modi, who strongly endorsed this attitude in his recent visit to Israel.

    Wake up.

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  • The 271,000 figure was for all internment camps. The 731,000 figure was all non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations during WW2. Sorry for the confusion.
    Regards,

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  • @anarchyst
    ...from the IRC archives themselves...

    Sorry, I was confused; I had seen a 270K number from the IRC, which indeed included all camps, 70K for Auschwitz. (The usual counter-response is that supposedly there were millions of “unregistered” inmates who wouldn’t have been included in these records.) So, where does your 730K number come from?

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  • Is there a deep-deep state? Those in deep state who work against deep state? There was Edward Snowden I guess but he seemed like a rogue character.

    I mean someone who stays IN the system but secretly and patiently works against it.

    And not as a foreign spy or some such but as a man of principles appalled by how much the system is mendacious and unscrupulous.

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Dlid I misunderstand what you meant by "I like to see where my congressman's loyalties lie" or do you not understand the clear implications of your words?

    Do you not understand that I was saying that I have knowledge of comparable circumstances from which you can see that divided or misplaced loyalties is not the only inference to be drawn sbout such junkets?

    If this was an isolated event with a dozen or so people, sure.

    The thing is, this happens every other year, and the people going are the ones who had funding from AIPAC during the campaign (most likely, the ones we’ve named so far have had campaign donations from AIPAC). these same people are going to come back and praise “our eternal ally”, regardless of what they do or how they do it.

    What if russia or china had the same setup? Every election season, they spend millions promoting their guy or gal, then they get an all-expense-paid trip to the donators home country if they win? Thats extremely fishy and if you cant see that, you don’t want to.

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