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    As the 100th anniversary of Hollywood's first blockbuster classic film, The Birth of a Nation, awkwardly approaches on March 3, it's fascinating to reflect upon how much attitudes have changed in the South toward the threat of black men raping white women. A couple of decades ago, Tom Wolfe dreamed up a plot for A...
  • […] incident sounds kind of like the recent Vanderbilt football team gang rapescandal. There seems to be a pattern of scandals that start with drunk coeds maybe wanting to have […]

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    Your post is classic Ad Hominem.
    If you don't like what he wrote, post a rebuttal of the content.

    I happen to agree 100% with what he wrote. But I don’t like Jared.

    Is this an acceptable reason to attack him or does this also violate your safe space?

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  • Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. At Vassar some ditzbunny got blitzed, got laid, and a year later decided that she had been sexually assaulted. I guess she didn’t notice it at the time. You have to be alert to know when you have been raped. It can happen when you are distracted, maybe working...
  • they can send as much money to their cousins in Tel Aviv as they want. Operative word here is “they.” Yes, of course, Jews in America are free to send their own money anywhere they like.

    Problem is, US Jews demand taxpayer-paid foreign aid be sent to Israel, which means “they” are sending *my* money. Which DOES hurt America’s interests, because those taxpayer dollars could be spent building the g-d wall on our southern border.

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  • SFG says:
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    As for Art’s point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Mr. j Lemming – do you have any idea how extreme you are – how out of the mainstream of humanity you are. When well meaning people hear your hateful lemming talk, red flags go up. You are a jihadi of the Zionist flavor. You are a Zionist Jew.

    There is an endless word shell game being played – who is a Jew, who is religious Jew, and who is a Zionist Jew. From the standpoint of most Gentiles it is the Zionist Jew who is to be feared, who has to be reckoned with, who persists in manipulating host cultures.

    The point is that not every Jew is a Zionist – some Jews see the evil – they see the lemming effect – they see the down side of Zionism. With great courage and hope and love they speak up.

    From what I can gather Mr. Unz is not a Zionist – he opposes Zionism - so the truth is that he is not one of your leaders. What more can be said?

    I don’t see the big deal about Zionism.

    I don’t like what left-wing Jews are doing to the USA in terms of pushing identity politics, feminism, and anti-whitism (antijaphetism, as Glaivester puts it).

    But support for Israel (which is mostly the right-wing ones)? Whatever. I don’t like them hijacking our foreign policy (Iran, etc.) or the Iraq War, but as long as it doesn’t hurt America’s interests (which to me is the key issue) they can send as much money to their cousins in Tel Aviv as they want.

    Israel vs Palestine? Whatever my ancestry, I’ve got no dog in that fight anymore, and the Israelis are paler and more civilized to my eye.

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  • It’s time for journalists to stop putting the cart before the horse. There has been a disturbing trend in the media of creating a narrative, a conclusion, and proselytizing content consumers, far before the facts come out. This rush to judgment may get eyeballs on stories, but it is a reckless and unethical practice that...
  • Your post is classic Ad Hominem.
    If you don’t like what he wrote, post a rebuttal of the content.

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    I happen to agree 100% with what he wrote. But I don't like Jared.

    Is this an acceptable reason to attack him or does this also violate your safe space?
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  • As the 100th anniversary of Hollywood's first blockbuster classic film, The Birth of a Nation, awkwardly approaches on March 3, it's fascinating to reflect upon how much attitudes have changed in the South toward the threat of black men raping white women. A couple of decades ago, Tom Wolfe dreamed up a plot for A...
  • Witness Julianna Martell, a student who was with the victim at a bar on the night of the alleged assault, testified that she helped recruiting over one summer….

    Good thing her uncle Charles is not alive anymore. He wouldn’t have agreed, I’m sure.

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  • Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. At Vassar some ditzbunny got blitzed, got laid, and a year later decided that she had been sexually assaulted. I guess she didn’t notice it at the time. You have to be alert to know when you have been raped. It can happen when you are distracted, maybe working...
  • So did “Fred Reed” formerly also write for the World Weekly News under the by-line “Ed Anger”? The two are indistinguishable.

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  • @M_Young
    "MarkinLA says:
    April 18, 2015 at 3:03 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @M_Young
    As somebody who has worked with a lot of Asian engineers, I think a lot of the “grinder” dismissal of Asians is misplaced. Work and school are very focused on deadlines. Asians make it a higher priority to meet these (many times ridiculous and arbitrary) deadlines in any manner possible. So they take advantage of brute force programming, copying junk inefficient code from somebody else, and all manner of things that make managers happy but look like garbage to other engineers."

    I think you are making my point.

    I think you are making my point.

    Not quite because the grinder pejorative also comes with the belief that they aren’t smart enough to do any better.

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  • @Art
    As for Art’s point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Mr. j Lemming – do you have any idea how extreme you are – how out of the mainstream of humanity you are. When well meaning people hear your hateful lemming talk, red flags go up. You are a jihadi of the Zionist flavor. You are a Zionist Jew.

    There is an endless word shell game being played – who is a Jew, who is religious Jew, and who is a Zionist Jew. From the standpoint of most Gentiles it is the Zionist Jew who is to be feared, who has to be reckoned with, who persists in manipulating host cultures.

    The point is that not every Jew is a Zionist – some Jews see the evil – they see the lemming effect – they see the down side of Zionism. With great courage and hope and love they speak up.

    From what I can gather Mr. Unz is not a Zionist – he opposes Zionism - so the truth is that he is not one of your leaders. What more can be said?

    I think you are wrong about it being Zionist Jews that (anti-Semitic) gentiles had a problem with. On the contrary they tended to be very happy at the idea of them going off to a small area in the Ottoman domains instead of spreading their imagined tentacles from London, New York, Vienna and Berlin….

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  • Oh, and no doubt the current American nation would not only not solicit Von Braun’s help, but would persecute him. If the ‘Office of Special Vendettas Investigations’ of the Department of ‘Justice’ could pursue an octogenarian who might have been, for a short period while under duress, a camp guard when he was twenty, think of what they would have done to the V-2 project head.

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  • “I think the nation you have in mind is Germany, not America.”

    LOL, certain Von Braun played a huge role. But he owed a huge debt to the New England Yankee Goddard.

    “At the time, Germany was highly interested in American physicist Robert H. Goddard’s research. Before 1939, German scientists occasionally contacted Goddard directly with technical questions. Wernher von Braun used Goddard’s plans from various journals and incorporated them into the building of the Aggregat (A) series of rockets. The A-4 rocket would become well known as the V-2.[25] In 1963, Braun reflected on the history of rocketry, and said of Goddard’s work: “His rockets … may have been rather crude by present-day standards, but they blazed the trail and incorporated many features used in our most modern rockets and space vehicles.”[8]

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  • @a Newsreader
    This is the writing of a college student. College students are supposed to know the difference between "then" and "than" and between "effect" and "affect". Vassar is supposed to be one of the better liberal arts colleges. When Fred was young, no American college, let alone Vassar, would tolerate students who couldn't use basic English words correctly.

    As Fred puts it, "I couldn’t have gotten away with such stuff in the sixth grade."

    I have the suspicion that we are so far around the bend that too many Americans can no longer understand what the world of higher standards was like. Explaining to you how lousy the student's grammar was is akin to explaining to a fish how wet the water is.

    What an age Fred must have lived in…a time of high standards and low competition.

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  • @M_Young
    Espenshade found that working/poor class whites were 1/7 as likely to get admitted to an elite University as similarly situated Asians (and the ratio went downhill from there).

    As for Asians and their alleged technical/scientific prowess -- it just doesn't seem to be there. Jerry Kang? Guy Kawasaki? I'm perfectly open to the idea of Asian superiority in intellectual endeavors, but the empirical evidence outside the hothouse flower world of competitive entry education is sorely lacking. It's not like we haven't had a lot of Asians in the country for 30+ years now, many of whom hail from technically inclined families. And yet their mark is minimal. There is a reason the America of the 'Gentleman's C ' could put a man on the moon, but grade grinding, Asian influence America has to buy human space carriage from the Russians.

    >There is a reason the America of the ‘Gentleman’s C ‘ could put a man on the moon

    I think the nation you have in mind is Germany, not America.

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  • @j
    You bunch of butthole nubbing shkotzim...

    Back before steve bowed to Mammon, rku was just another despicable jew to the lot of ya.

    As for Art's point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Of course our leadership has been as ruinous to us throughout history as most ppl's traitorous elites. Just look at what happens when some of us get rich, we pull up the ladder behind us! See: Ronny boy.

    Ah, J – or the original J – (Jeremiah and Job??) can you bypass crude insult and explain why you have failed to see that Ron, very far from being a “self-hating Jew” simply despises a lot of Jews not including himself.

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  • “He is right though that our language is not logical.”

    With that I agree.

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  • “MarkinLA says:
    April 18, 2015 at 3:03 pm GMT • 100 Words

    As somebody who has worked with a lot of Asian engineers, I think a lot of the “grinder” dismissal of Asians is misplaced. Work and school are very focused on deadlines. Asians make it a higher priority to meet these (many times ridiculous and arbitrary) deadlines in any manner possible. So they take advantage of brute force programming, copying junk inefficient code from somebody else, and all manner of things that make managers happy but look like garbage to other engineers.”

    I think you are making my point.

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    I think you are making my point.

    Not quite because the grinder pejorative also comes with the belief that they aren't smart enough to do any better.
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  • @Realist
    "When English is spoken, there is no diff between “then” and “than” or between “effect” and “affect.”"

    Where the hell did you 'grow-up'? If you cannot hear the difference between then and than you are on the left of the curve.

    I think he grew up somewhere deep Southish because he did say the two pairs of words are pronounced the same in his “nick” of the woods. Then and than would both be pronounced something like “they-en”, and affect and effect might both start with a hard A sound. Still no excuse for thinking they mean the same, a quick look at the dictionary would establish that. He is right though that our language is not logical. Remember, English is a language in which you can say with perfect validity that the two words “quail” and “quail” have completely different meanings!

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Fartin horse never tire
    Fartin man’s the man to hire!
    I think Ron is doing a Hell of a job here, it’s a great site.
    Sure there are a few tin foil hats, grammar nerds and assorted arse holes but all in all its’ a very interesting group!
    I like Fred a lot as well.

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  • @j
    You bunch of butthole nubbing shkotzim...

    Back before steve bowed to Mammon, rku was just another despicable jew to the lot of ya.

    As for Art's point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Of course our leadership has been as ruinous to us throughout history as most ppl's traitorous elites. Just look at what happens when some of us get rich, we pull up the ladder behind us! See: Ronny boy.

    As for Art’s point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Mr. j Lemming – do you have any idea how extreme you are – how out of the mainstream of humanity you are. When well meaning people hear your hateful lemming talk, red flags go up. You are a jihadi of the Zionist flavor. You are a Zionist Jew.

    There is an endless word shell game being played – who is a Jew, who is religious Jew, and who is a Zionist Jew. From the standpoint of most Gentiles it is the Zionist Jew who is to be feared, who has to be reckoned with, who persists in manipulating host cultures.

    The point is that not every Jew is a Zionist – some Jews see the evil – they see the lemming effect – they see the down side of Zionism. With great courage and hope and love they speak up.

    From what I can gather Mr. Unz is not a Zionist – he opposes Zionism – so the truth is that he is not one of your leaders. What more can be said?

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    I think you are wrong about it being Zionist Jews that (anti-Semitic) gentiles had a problem with. On the contrary they tended to be very happy at the idea of them going off to a small area in the Ottoman domains instead of spreading their imagined tentacles from London, New York, Vienna and Berlin....
    , @SFG
    I don't see the big deal about Zionism.

    I don't like what left-wing Jews are doing to the USA in terms of pushing identity politics, feminism, and anti-whitism (antijaphetism, as Glaivester puts it).

    But support for Israel (which is mostly the right-wing ones)? Whatever. I don't like them hijacking our foreign policy (Iran, etc.) or the Iraq War, but as long as it doesn't hurt America's interests (which to me is the key issue) they can send as much money to their cousins in Tel Aviv as they want.

    Israel vs Palestine? Whatever my ancestry, I've got no dog in that fight anymore, and the Israelis are paler and more civilized to my eye.
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  • X says:
    @X
    I would recommend perusing the information contained in the ETS report Fred cited.

    “Sponsored by the OECD, the test was designed to measure the job skills of adults, aged 16 to 65, in 23 countries. When the results were analyzed by age group and nationality, ETS got a shock. It turns out, says a new report, that Millennials in the U.S. fall short when it comes to the skills employers want most: literacy (including the ability to follow simple instructions), practical math, and — hold on to your hat — a category called “problem-solving in technology-rich environments.”

    Specifically, the chapters on Nativity (see Table 3) and Race/ethnicity in the U.S. (See Tables 6 and 7)

    http://www.ets.org/s/research/30079/nativity.html

    http://www.ets.org/s/research/30079/race-ethnicity.html

    According to these results, Asian Americans are not outperforming Whites in America, even at higher levels of education, but America is dumbing itself downward away from the mean higher values of Northern and Central Europeans. There is no reason to doubt that this circling the bowl as "The Indispensable Nation" flushes itself down the toilet is not going to continue, if not accelerate.

    The people America destroyed in 1918-1945 at the command of the international banking overlords will have the last laugh on the descendants of the “Greatest Generation”.

    It appears America is headed towards a chocolate colored, third world fate as described by Tito Perdue and others… but we will knew that anyway, right.

    Karma is just and unmerciful to the deserving.

    And yes, I have read Tom Goodrich’s book. I’d also recommend reading Dr. Kollerstrom’s and Samuel Crowell’s books as well.

    I know that America’s evil doing in Europe did not end in 1945. Indeed, Serbia and Novorossiya could reasonably argue that it has been and is continuous.

    1945 is the year the average Hollywoodized Murican can recognize.

    And the unpleasant truth is that there will be a future reckoning for what Murica has done. Leave if you can.

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  • Please get it accurate, Unz is a typical, self-hating HALF Jew. We don’t even know if it’s the half that counts.

    But please correct me if I’m wrong; what fun is being Jewish if one can’t self-hate a bit?

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  • @rastignac
    When English is spoken, there is no diff between "then" and "than" or between "effect" and "affect." There is no phonological difference whatever. Here, "then" and "than" are pronounced the same way. Hence, phonologically, one word. The same with "effect" and "affect." Syntactically, it's a different story. Don't preach to me about linguistics, your insufferable amateur, you. You never got out of hi school. Fred's marking some spelling errors and calling them grammatical (syntactic) errors is like not knowing shit from shinola.

    “When English is spoken, there is no diff between “then” and “than” or between “effect” and “affect.””

    Where the hell did you ‘grow-up’? If you cannot hear the difference between then and than you are on the left of the curve.

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    I think he grew up somewhere deep Southish because he did say the two pairs of words are pronounced the same in his "nick" of the woods. Then and than would both be pronounced something like "they-en", and affect and effect might both start with a hard A sound. Still no excuse for thinking they mean the same, a quick look at the dictionary would establish that. He is right though that our language is not logical. Remember, English is a language in which you can say with perfect validity that the two words "quail" and "quail" have completely different meanings!
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  • X says:

    I would recommend perusing the information contained in the ETS report Fred cited.

    “Sponsored by the OECD, the test was designed to measure the job skills of adults, aged 16 to 65, in 23 countries. When the results were analyzed by age group and nationality, ETS got a shock. It turns out, says a new report, that Millennials in the U.S. fall short when it comes to the skills employers want most: literacy (including the ability to follow simple instructions), practical math, and — hold on to your hat — a category called “problem-solving in technology-rich environments.”

    Specifically, the chapters on Nativity (see Table 3) and Race/ethnicity in the U.S. (See Tables 6 and 7)

    http://www.ets.org/s/research/30079/nativity.html

    http://www.ets.org/s/research/30079/race-ethnicity.html

    According to these results, Asian Americans are not outperforming Whites in America, even at higher levels of education, but America is dumbing itself downward away from the mean higher values of Northern and Central Europeans. There is no reason to doubt that this circling the bowl as “The Indispensable Nation” flushes itself down the toilet is not going to continue, if not accelerate.

    The people America destroyed in 1918-1945 at the command of the international banking overlords will have the last laugh on the descendants of the “Greatest Generation”.

    It appears America is headed towards a chocolate colored, third world fate as described by Tito Perdue and others… but we will knew that anyway, right.

    Karma is just and unmerciful to the deserving.

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    And yes, I have read Tom Goodrich's book. I’d also recommend reading Dr. Kollerstrom’s and Samuel Crowell's books as well.

    I know that America’s evil doing in Europe did not end in 1945. Indeed, Serbia and Novorossiya could reasonably argue that it has been and is continuous.

    1945 is the year the average Hollywoodized Murican can recognize.

    And the unpleasant truth is that there will be a future reckoning for what Murica has done. Leave if you can.
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  • @j
    You bunch of butthole nubbing shkotzim...

    Back before steve bowed to Mammon, rku was just another despicable jew to the lot of ya.

    As for Art's point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Of course our leadership has been as ruinous to us throughout history as most ppl's traitorous elites. Just look at what happens when some of us get rich, we pull up the ladder behind us! See: Ronny boy.

    Somebody is impersonating me. I am J.

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  • @Gene Su
    Now, about the little drama that took place at Vassar: I have a solution once suggested by Murray Rothbard. I went to a parochial school in high school and believe boys and girls should be, to some extent, physically separated. It is sad but since too many of them can't behave like responsible adults, it is probably the most convenient and least painful solution to these accusations of rape (whether they are true or not).

    “It is sad but since too many of them can’t behave like responsible adults, it is probably the most convenient and least painful solution to these accusations of rape (whether they are true or not)”

    Not at all. Universities have lowered their standards to such a degree that they are now full of scum. Most college students shouldn’t be in college. They are allowed in because of greed.

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  • @anonymous

    being behind everyone but Spain, Ireland, and Poland. Welcome to Vassar.
     
    But why do Americans assume that they are a superior breed and therefore must always outshine everyone else? Americans are nobody special. I couldn't count the number of Americans I've met who 'don't know nuttin bout nuttin' . That they came out ahead of Spain, Ireland and Poland surprises me; that must be some sort of mistake. Face it, a lot of people here are descended from Europe's rejects. But just keep chanting, over and over again like a Hare Krishna in a trance:

    USA, USA, USA
    We're number one, We're number one

    “But why do Americans assume that they are a superior breed and therefore must always outshine everyone else?”

    Unjustified ego. The idea of a form of government where abject stupidity does not disqualify you from voting is….well stupid.

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  • j says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    A well deserved reproof as I hope you will agree mine is too. "J" should be ashamed to come on the blog of someone who has given so much and hide behind a pseudonym so the nasty lowbrow vitriol of his cheap sneers won't publicly disgrace him. I am sure Ron could work out who I am without consulting my unpublished details and I am perfectly happy to stand by anything I may say which is unsatisfactory without a real name or identity attached.

    You bunch of butthole nubbing shkotzim…

    Back before steve bowed to Mammon, rku was just another despicable jew to the lot of ya.

    As for Art’s point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Of course our leadership has been as ruinous to us throughout history as most ppl’s traitorous elites. Just look at what happens when some of us get rich, we pull up the ladder behind us! See: Ronny boy.

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    Somebody is impersonating me. I am J.
    , @Art
    As for Art’s point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Mr. j Lemming – do you have any idea how extreme you are – how out of the mainstream of humanity you are. When well meaning people hear your hateful lemming talk, red flags go up. You are a jihadi of the Zionist flavor. You are a Zionist Jew.

    There is an endless word shell game being played – who is a Jew, who is religious Jew, and who is a Zionist Jew. From the standpoint of most Gentiles it is the Zionist Jew who is to be feared, who has to be reckoned with, who persists in manipulating host cultures.

    The point is that not every Jew is a Zionist – some Jews see the evil – they see the lemming effect – they see the down side of Zionism. With great courage and hope and love they speak up.

    From what I can gather Mr. Unz is not a Zionist – he opposes Zionism - so the truth is that he is not one of your leaders. What more can be said?
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Ah, J - or the original J - (Jeremiah and Job??) can you bypass crude insult and explain why you have failed to see that Ron, very far from being a "self-hating Jew" simply despises a lot of Jews not including himself.
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  • @aandrews
    ………………………. edit-edit .....................................

    "More specifically, the school will admit the unqualified at the expense of the qualified."

    Thinking about it, though, I wonder if all the unqualified will be admitted equally?”

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  • @Truth
    "More specifically, the school will admit unqualified blacks and Hispanics at the expense of whites, or at the expense of Asians."

    .............................................. edit .................................................................................

    "More specifically, the school will admit unqualified blacks, Hispanics and whites at the expense of Asians.

    ………………………. edit-edit ……………………………….

    “More specifically, the school will admit the unqualified at the expense of the qualified.”

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    Thinking about it, though, I wonder if all the unqualified will be admitted equally?"
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  • Gee, I didn’t know Newton and Einstein were Chinese.

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  • @anonymous

    being behind everyone but Spain, Ireland, and Poland. Welcome to Vassar.
     
    But why do Americans assume that they are a superior breed and therefore must always outshine everyone else? Americans are nobody special. I couldn't count the number of Americans I've met who 'don't know nuttin bout nuttin' . That they came out ahead of Spain, Ireland and Poland surprises me; that must be some sort of mistake. Face it, a lot of people here are descended from Europe's rejects. But just keep chanting, over and over again like a Hare Krishna in a trance:

    USA, USA, USA
    We're number one, We're number one

    In fact, over a lifetime of observation I have come to the conclusion that the lower down the ladder one is, the more vocally do the said persons scream “I (we) are number one”. Those who really ARE “number one” have no need to say anything at all.

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  • @George123
    Asians are also proportionally overrepresented compared to their IQ.

    What it means is, not that whites are discriminated against, but that whites ain't showing up in all senses of that term. Whites simply aren't motivated anymore to do much. This is obvious across the board in all fields.

    If we went by IQ alone whites would be the majority at every elite educational institution in the country.

    Every people, every country, every nation, has a peak of success and then loses motivation to do much. The Chinese were lazy in the 19th century when they thought they were at the top of the world. They re-found their motivation after Europe made them doubt that.

    Whites can be compared to Chinese in the 19th century. They are so arrogant, so self-satisfied, so smug, so sure of their superiority to everyone and everything, that they don't even bother to compete. Competition is for losers. Competition is for those still trying to prove something. Whites feel threatened by no one. They don't even care if Asians make up 70% of these good high schools. Who are Asians? People that still need to prove something, that's who.

    That this is a fatally hubristic attitude is obvious. But all people's enter this phase. Then they get smacked down, and they learn to compete again. China could have easily retained its independence in the 19th century but its incredible arrogance and self-satisfaction caused it to utterly miscalculate its own strength relative to everyone else.

    Who will smack down the West to make it learn to compete again? I wonder. Maybe no one, in which case the West will just die.

    What it means is, not that whites are discriminated against, but that whites ain’t showing up in all senses of that term.

    Unless you have the transcripts of rural whites who do seem to be discriminated against at these elite universities, you can’t make that statement. If the rural whites are the same in SATs and GPA and the only difference is that being in the Future Farmers of America isn’t considered as good as working at the local homeless shelter, then there is a problem.

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  • @M_Young
    Espenshade found that working/poor class whites were 1/7 as likely to get admitted to an elite University as similarly situated Asians (and the ratio went downhill from there).

    As for Asians and their alleged technical/scientific prowess -- it just doesn't seem to be there. Jerry Kang? Guy Kawasaki? I'm perfectly open to the idea of Asian superiority in intellectual endeavors, but the empirical evidence outside the hothouse flower world of competitive entry education is sorely lacking. It's not like we haven't had a lot of Asians in the country for 30+ years now, many of whom hail from technically inclined families. And yet their mark is minimal. There is a reason the America of the 'Gentleman's C ' could put a man on the moon, but grade grinding, Asian influence America has to buy human space carriage from the Russians.

    As somebody who has worked with a lot of Asian engineers, I think a lot of the “grinder” dismissal of Asians is misplaced. Work and school are very focused on deadlines. Asians make it a higher priority to meet these (many times ridiculous and arbitrary) deadlines in any manner possible. So they take advantage of brute force programming, copying junk inefficient code from somebody else, and all manner of things that make managers happy but look like garbage to other engineers.

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  • He had sex with the inebriated daughter of a Vassar professor, that was high-risk, a bit like an enlisted Marine banging the daughter of his commanding officer. He is Chinese and had never had sex before, I doubt it was any fun for her at all.

    Compare what happened to that home schooled 15 year old the University of Alabama put in the athletes’ accommodation block. (It was all her fault).

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  • @M_Young
    Espenshade found that working/poor class whites were 1/7 as likely to get admitted to an elite University as similarly situated Asians (and the ratio went downhill from there).

    As for Asians and their alleged technical/scientific prowess -- it just doesn't seem to be there. Jerry Kang? Guy Kawasaki? I'm perfectly open to the idea of Asian superiority in intellectual endeavors, but the empirical evidence outside the hothouse flower world of competitive entry education is sorely lacking. It's not like we haven't had a lot of Asians in the country for 30+ years now, many of whom hail from technically inclined families. And yet their mark is minimal. There is a reason the America of the 'Gentleman's C ' could put a man on the moon, but grade grinding, Asian influence America has to buy human space carriage from the Russians.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memristor

    Leon Chua’s research may eventually be significant in microelectronics or it may not – remember bubble memory?

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  • @Anonymous

    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.
     
    This may be true, but what does this have to do with the objective fact that jews are disproportionally overrepresented at Harvard, even after taking into account supposed higher average IQ assumptions? Unz isn't the only one who has pointed this out. It means, even after eliminating all non-white affirmative action, non-jewish whites are being discriminated against. Perhaps because they politically have "bad thoughts". They are being squeezed out of elite institutions.

    Asians are also proportionally overrepresented compared to their IQ.

    What it means is, not that whites are discriminated against, but that whites ain’t showing up in all senses of that term. Whites simply aren’t motivated anymore to do much. This is obvious across the board in all fields.

    If we went by IQ alone whites would be the majority at every elite educational institution in the country.

    Every people, every country, every nation, has a peak of success and then loses motivation to do much. The Chinese were lazy in the 19th century when they thought they were at the top of the world. They re-found their motivation after Europe made them doubt that.

    Whites can be compared to Chinese in the 19th century. They are so arrogant, so self-satisfied, so smug, so sure of their superiority to everyone and everything, that they don’t even bother to compete. Competition is for losers. Competition is for those still trying to prove something. Whites feel threatened by no one. They don’t even care if Asians make up 70% of these good high schools. Who are Asians? People that still need to prove something, that’s who.

    That this is a fatally hubristic attitude is obvious. But all people’s enter this phase. Then they get smacked down, and they learn to compete again. China could have easily retained its independence in the 19th century but its incredible arrogance and self-satisfaction caused it to utterly miscalculate its own strength relative to everyone else.

    Who will smack down the West to make it learn to compete again? I wonder. Maybe no one, in which case the West will just die.

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    What it means is, not that whites are discriminated against, but that whites ain’t showing up in all senses of that term.

    Unless you have the transcripts of rural whites who do seem to be discriminated against at these elite universities, you can't make that statement. If the rural whites are the same in SATs and GPA and the only difference is that being in the Future Farmers of America isn't considered as good as working at the local homeless shelter, then there is a problem.
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  • @anonymous

    being behind everyone but Spain, Ireland, and Poland. Welcome to Vassar.
     
    But why do Americans assume that they are a superior breed and therefore must always outshine everyone else? Americans are nobody special. I couldn't count the number of Americans I've met who 'don't know nuttin bout nuttin' . That they came out ahead of Spain, Ireland and Poland surprises me; that must be some sort of mistake. Face it, a lot of people here are descended from Europe's rejects. But just keep chanting, over and over again like a Hare Krishna in a trance:

    USA, USA, USA
    We're number one, We're number one

    It must have something to do with the people that built America from scratch after giving everybody else a millennia head start.

    Now she’s just one of lots of countries that traded prosperity for diversity.

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  • @rastignac
    You are wrong, Fred, dead wrong, and a insufferable pedant like Miss Fiddich, that old mare, who used to get het up over "than" vs. "then" (pronounced the same way in my nick of woods) or "effect" vs. "affect" (one and the same thing here, too). It's indecent for a male (but maybe "Fred" short for "Frederica"?) to care about this kind of chickenshit. These are spelling errors, which are a hallmark of a badly designed language. But here's the real catch. Spelling errors have nothing to do with grammar or, as you don't seem to know it, syntax. An intellectual poseur should know.

    You, Rasty, are in idiot who is resorting to whining when you don’t have an argument. “So what?”, she said as she stamped her stiletto healed shoes bought on sale, “the narrative is the important thing, not the grammar.”

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    I was going to say after you first, on this thread, called Ron Unz "a typical self-hating Jew" that you should out yourself with a name - a real name and perhaps some other identifying features if you really are as deservedly unknown as I suspect. Then we might at least be intrigued to know whether it is worth listening to your explanation, which I invite now, of the term "self hating Jew" preferably as qualified by the word "typical" if your use of that wasn't just a meaningless clichéd tic. But then you described him as a non-entity! I don't think that makes you a troll. Mere rudeness or even stupidity is not enough. But can you please prove yourself sufficiently entitous to make your opinion on someone else's public achievements and substantial qualities worth anything at all?
    I presume you can use a search engine. Even applying your probably random scepticism and chance iconoclasm you could only come away from researchimg Ron's achievements and intelligence (which I mention since even you would perhaps concede that it had something to do with the question whether a persons arguments were worth answering)with admiration, even awe, at what someone with no helpful start in life but his brain has achieved, and contributed to the community.

    Now you, or SOMEONE, could tell us what this "self-hating Jew" business is about. Being the son of old-fashioned Hasidic Ostjuden in Germany when (though sadly it didn't appease Hitler) prosperous upper middle class German Jews were highly assimilated could essily have produced a syndrome to which the term might apply but is it/was it anything different from the class problems of the English nouveau riche son whose father hadn't made his money in time to send the boy to a school where he could learn to speak like Old Etonians? It really would be interesting and quite a test of your intellect if you would try your hand at a survey and analysis of the causes, varieties, manifestations and consequences of hating of one's natural or inevitable identity. It might excuse your crass rudeness and supercilious air of self-acclaimed superiority.

    So I said, in a thread where pedantry about words has intervened in comments, “typical” when the word used was “classical”. Yes I have now picked that up from reading Art and I mention it so that it doesn’t give an excuse to a cheap fellow like J to avoid the thrust of criticisms There is no relevant distiction to be made between the two qualifiers.

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  • @Art
    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    He wants you, and any Germans who may be listening, to know that he’s one of the “good jews”.


    From your post we can gather that you are one of those lemming Jews who never questions your leaders. You believe that they are so smart that they can manipulate the whole world forever and ever.

    Well Mr. Lemming, in three thousand years of human history your leaders have NEVER accomplished that, they have ALWAYS gotten you band wagon lemmings in trouble and run off with the booty – they have always left you little ones holding the bag. Enjoy it while it lasts!

    p.s. Your post drips with hate - illustrating the contempt your culture has for everyone.

    A well deserved reproof as I hope you will agree mine is too. “J” should be ashamed to come on the blog of someone who has given so much and hide behind a pseudonym so the nasty lowbrow vitriol of his cheap sneers won’t publicly disgrace him. I am sure Ron could work out who I am without consulting my unpublished details and I am perfectly happy to stand by anything I may say which is unsatisfactory without a real name or identity attached.

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    You bunch of butthole nubbing shkotzim...

    Back before steve bowed to Mammon, rku was just another despicable jew to the lot of ya.

    As for Art's point, all good and correct except that Ron IS one of our leaders, you dumb sh$t!

    Of course our leadership has been as ruinous to us throughout history as most ppl's traitorous elites. Just look at what happens when some of us get rich, we pull up the ladder behind us! See: Ronny boy.
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  • @rastignac
    When English is spoken, there is no diff between "then" and "than" or between "effect" and "affect." There is no phonological difference whatever. Here, "then" and "than" are pronounced the same way. Hence, phonologically, one word. The same with "effect" and "affect." Syntactically, it's a different story. Don't preach to me about linguistics, your insufferable amateur, you. You never got out of hi school. Fred's marking some spelling errors and calling them grammatical (syntactic) errors is like not knowing shit from shinola.

    This is the writing of a college student. College students are supposed to know the difference between “then” and “than” and between “effect” and “affect”. Vassar is supposed to be one of the better liberal arts colleges. When Fred was young, no American college, let alone Vassar, would tolerate students who couldn’t use basic English words correctly.

    As Fred puts it, “I couldn’t have gotten away with such stuff in the sixth grade.”

    I have the suspicion that we are so far around the bend that too many Americans can no longer understand what the world of higher standards was like. Explaining to you how lousy the student’s grammar was is akin to explaining to a fish how wet the water is.

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    What an age Fred must have lived in...a time of high standards and low competition.
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  • @Art
    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    He wants you, and any Germans who may be listening, to know that he’s one of the “good jews”.


    From your post we can gather that you are one of those lemming Jews who never questions your leaders. You believe that they are so smart that they can manipulate the whole world forever and ever.

    Well Mr. Lemming, in three thousand years of human history your leaders have NEVER accomplished that, they have ALWAYS gotten you band wagon lemmings in trouble and run off with the booty – they have always left you little ones holding the bag. Enjoy it while it lasts!

    p.s. Your post drips with hate - illustrating the contempt your culture has for everyone.


    Bravo for the comment!!! Mr j is one of those pretentious natty-yahoo Jews who calls everyone who does fall on his knees in front of the leader “a farting imbecile”. But you are terribly wrong about the “culture”, those nutcases have none of that.

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  • @j
    If you've studied the data and find it infallible I'll grant it some hearsay credit but everyone knows that his data on other subjects (hint Hispanics) is ridiculous.

    I haven't seen anyone tear into his data here either because he's such a nonentity as to not be worth disproving or because they really enjoy his anti-Jewish conclusions.

    I was going to say after you first, on this thread, called Ron Unz “a typical self-hating Jew” that you should out yourself with a name – a real name and perhaps some other identifying features if you really are as deservedly unknown as I suspect. Then we might at least be intrigued to know whether it is worth listening to your explanation, which I invite now, of the term “self hating Jew” preferably as qualified by the word “typical” if your use of that wasn’t just a meaningless clichéd tic. But then you described him as a non-entity! I don’t think that makes you a troll. Mere rudeness or even stupidity is not enough. But can you please prove yourself sufficiently entitous to make your opinion on someone else’s public achievements and substantial qualities worth anything at all?
    I presume you can use a search engine. Even applying your probably random scepticism and chance iconoclasm you could only come away from researchimg Ron’s achievements and intelligence (which I mention since even you would perhaps concede that it had something to do with the question whether a persons arguments were worth answering)with admiration, even awe, at what someone with no helpful start in life but his brain has achieved, and contributed to the community.

    Now you, or SOMEONE, could tell us what this “self-hating Jew” business is about. Being the son of old-fashioned Hasidic Ostjuden in Germany when (though sadly it didn’t appease Hitler) prosperous upper middle class German Jews were highly assimilated could essily have produced a syndrome to which the term might apply but is it/was it anything different from the class problems of the English nouveau riche son whose father hadn’t made his money in time to send the boy to a school where he could learn to speak like Old Etonians? It really would be interesting and quite a test of your intellect if you would try your hand at a survey and analysis of the causes, varieties, manifestations and consequences of hating of one’s natural or inevitable identity. It might excuse your crass rudeness and supercilious air of self-acclaimed superiority.

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    So I said, in a thread where pedantry about words has intervened in comments, "typical" when the word used was "classical". Yes I have now picked that up from reading Art and I mention it so that it doesn't give an excuse to a cheap fellow like J to avoid the thrust of criticisms There is no relevant distiction to be made between the two qualifiers.
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  • @anon
    Rasty has a point. The 'then' - 'than' mix-up is easy to make if you don't expend specific energy double-checking (sort of like 'there', they're, and their). And the difference in meaning between 'effect' and 'affect' is still not very clear to me and probably not many who don't write for a living.

    And the run-on sentences? This was an e-mail between college peers. When I write to friends (usually old college friends) I always dumb-down my writing by using less precise diction, simpler sentence structure, etc. It is meant to convey that you regard the addressee as being an equal peer who you have warm feelings toward.

    That this dumbed-down language between peers is de riguer in the U.S. may reveal the probably unfortunate deep-seated anti-intellectualism here, but I don't think it necessarily means this particular e-mail couldn't pull off smart-sounding formal writing if she needed to. In other words, run-on-sentences may have been her method for avoiding the kiss-of-social-death hoity-toity intellectual label in America.

    You know, it’s also easy to make if you’re hung over.

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  • Espenshade found that working/poor class whites were 1/7 as likely to get admitted to an elite University as similarly situated Asians (and the ratio went downhill from there).

    As for Asians and their alleged technical/scientific prowess — it just doesn’t seem to be there. Jerry Kang? Guy Kawasaki? I’m perfectly open to the idea of Asian superiority in intellectual endeavors, but the empirical evidence outside the hothouse flower world of competitive entry education is sorely lacking. It’s not like we haven’t had a lot of Asians in the country for 30+ years now, many of whom hail from technically inclined families. And yet their mark is minimal. There is a reason the America of the ‘Gentleman’s C ‘ could put a man on the moon, but grade grinding, Asian influence America has to buy human space carriage from the Russians.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memristor

    Leon Chua's research may eventually be significant in microelectronics or it may not - remember bubble memory?
    , @MarkinLA
    As somebody who has worked with a lot of Asian engineers, I think a lot of the "grinder" dismissal of Asians is misplaced. Work and school are very focused on deadlines. Asians make it a higher priority to meet these (many times ridiculous and arbitrary) deadlines in any manner possible. So they take advantage of brute force programming, copying junk inefficient code from somebody else, and all manner of things that make managers happy but look like garbage to other engineers.
    , @Heaviside
    >There is a reason the America of the ‘Gentleman’s C ‘ could put a man on the moon

    I think the nation you have in mind is Germany, not America.

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  • @j
    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    He hates the fact that he's Jewish and wishes he were a goyish millionaire.

    Not being one, the best he can do is try to argue that only HE is special, not the other Jews who cheated their way to wealth.

    He wants you, and any Germans who may be listening, to know that he's one of the "good jews".

    I love the guy for doing so much good (see this site, etc) but he's also a farting imbecile (see: Jews, Mexicans, etc).

    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    He wants you, and any Germans who may be listening, to know that he’s one of the “good jews”.

    From your post we can gather that you are one of those lemming Jews who never questions your leaders. You believe that they are so smart that they can manipulate the whole world forever and ever.

    Well Mr. Lemming, in three thousand years of human history your leaders have NEVER accomplished that, they have ALWAYS gotten you band wagon lemmings in trouble and run off with the booty – they have always left you little ones holding the bag. Enjoy it while it lasts!

    p.s. Your post drips with hate – illustrating the contempt your culture has for everyone.

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    @Art
    Bravo for the comment!!! Mr j is one of those pretentious natty-yahoo Jews who calls everyone who does fall on his knees in front of the leader "a farting imbecile". But you are terribly wrong about the "culture", those nutcases have none of that.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    A well deserved reproof as I hope you will agree mine is too. "J" should be ashamed to come on the blog of someone who has given so much and hide behind a pseudonym so the nasty lowbrow vitriol of his cheap sneers won't publicly disgrace him. I am sure Ron could work out who I am without consulting my unpublished details and I am perfectly happy to stand by anything I may say which is unsatisfactory without a real name or identity attached.
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  • This is the worst comment thread I have ever, seen, anywhere, short of the “LOL, you are a dick” stuff you see on Youtube.
    Wins the Much Heat but no Light award, hands down.

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  • @rastignac
    Since you're able to find/recognize three sentences there, then there cannot be a grammatical error anywhere. There maybe a punctuation/spelling error but that's not a grammatical error. A period doesn't a sentence make. John Jeremiah, you're an amateur in matters linguistic.

    Pish. Linguistics is irrelevant to the written language, thus to formal grammar.

    Okay, so you tried to excuse your failure by fading into a claim to “linguistics”. Gosh, I’ve never seen anybody do something like that before.

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  • @Eustace Tilley (not)
    My Most Illiterate Sire:

    'Than' is not the same word as 'then' and 'affect' is not the same word as 'effect'. If you have a university degree and yet still fancy them the same, you are living proof of the damage done to the humanities in American universities since 1960 or so.

    When English is spoken, there is no diff between “then” and “than” or between “effect” and “affect.” There is no phonological difference whatever. Here, “then” and “than” are pronounced the same way. Hence, phonologically, one word. The same with “effect” and “affect.” Syntactically, it’s a different story. Don’t preach to me about linguistics, your insufferable amateur, you. You never got out of hi school. Fred’s marking some spelling errors and calling them grammatical (syntactic) errors is like not knowing shit from shinola.

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    This is the writing of a college student. College students are supposed to know the difference between "then" and "than" and between "effect" and "affect". Vassar is supposed to be one of the better liberal arts colleges. When Fred was young, no American college, let alone Vassar, would tolerate students who couldn't use basic English words correctly.

    As Fred puts it, "I couldn’t have gotten away with such stuff in the sixth grade."

    I have the suspicion that we are so far around the bend that too many Americans can no longer understand what the world of higher standards was like. Explaining to you how lousy the student's grammar was is akin to explaining to a fish how wet the water is.
    , @Realist
    "When English is spoken, there is no diff between “then” and “than” or between “effect” and “affect.”"

    Where the hell did you 'grow-up'? If you cannot hear the difference between then and than you are on the left of the curve.
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  • @John Jeremiah Smith
    What an insufferable jackass you are, rastignac.

    "I don’t think any less of you at all I had a wonderful time last night I’m just too close to my previous relationship to be in one right now.”

    That is a grammar error. Three sentences, one period.

    What can you do, Rasty? Read, read, read. Go back to 6th grade, or something.

    Since you’re able to find/recognize three sentences there, then there cannot be a grammatical error anywhere. There maybe a punctuation/spelling error but that’s not a grammatical error. A period doesn’t a sentence make. John Jeremiah, you’re an amateur in matters linguistic.

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    Pish. Linguistics is irrelevant to the written language, thus to formal grammar.

    Okay, so you tried to excuse your failure by fading into a claim to "linguistics". Gosh, I've never seen anybody do something like that before.
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  • j says:
    @Anonymous

    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.
     
    This may be true, but what does this have to do with the objective fact that jews are disproportionally overrepresented at Harvard, even after taking into account supposed higher average IQ assumptions? Unz isn't the only one who has pointed this out. It means, even after eliminating all non-white affirmative action, non-jewish whites are being discriminated against. Perhaps because they politically have "bad thoughts". They are being squeezed out of elite institutions.

    If you’ve studied the data and find it infallible I’ll grant it some hearsay credit but everyone knows that his data on other subjects (hint Hispanics) is ridiculous.

    I haven’t seen anyone tear into his data here either because he’s such a nonentity as to not be worth disproving or because they really enjoy his anti-Jewish conclusions.

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    I was going to say after you first, on this thread, called Ron Unz "a typical self-hating Jew" that you should out yourself with a name - a real name and perhaps some other identifying features if you really are as deservedly unknown as I suspect. Then we might at least be intrigued to know whether it is worth listening to your explanation, which I invite now, of the term "self hating Jew" preferably as qualified by the word "typical" if your use of that wasn't just a meaningless clichéd tic. But then you described him as a non-entity! I don't think that makes you a troll. Mere rudeness or even stupidity is not enough. But can you please prove yourself sufficiently entitous to make your opinion on someone else's public achievements and substantial qualities worth anything at all?
    I presume you can use a search engine. Even applying your probably random scepticism and chance iconoclasm you could only come away from researchimg Ron's achievements and intelligence (which I mention since even you would perhaps concede that it had something to do with the question whether a persons arguments were worth answering)with admiration, even awe, at what someone with no helpful start in life but his brain has achieved, and contributed to the community.

    Now you, or SOMEONE, could tell us what this "self-hating Jew" business is about. Being the son of old-fashioned Hasidic Ostjuden in Germany when (though sadly it didn't appease Hitler) prosperous upper middle class German Jews were highly assimilated could essily have produced a syndrome to which the term might apply but is it/was it anything different from the class problems of the English nouveau riche son whose father hadn't made his money in time to send the boy to a school where he could learn to speak like Old Etonians? It really would be interesting and quite a test of your intellect if you would try your hand at a survey and analysis of the causes, varieties, manifestations and consequences of hating of one's natural or inevitable identity. It might excuse your crass rudeness and supercilious air of self-acclaimed superiority.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @j
    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    He hates the fact that he's Jewish and wishes he were a goyish millionaire.

    Not being one, the best he can do is try to argue that only HE is special, not the other Jews who cheated their way to wealth.

    He wants you, and any Germans who may be listening, to know that he's one of the "good jews".

    I love the guy for doing so much good (see this site, etc) but he's also a farting imbecile (see: Jews, Mexicans, etc).

    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    This may be true, but what does this have to do with the objective fact that jews are disproportionally overrepresented at Harvard, even after taking into account supposed higher average IQ assumptions? Unz isn’t the only one who has pointed this out. It means, even after eliminating all non-white affirmative action, non-jewish whites are being discriminated against. Perhaps because they politically have “bad thoughts”. They are being squeezed out of elite institutions.

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    If you've studied the data and find it infallible I'll grant it some hearsay credit but everyone knows that his data on other subjects (hint Hispanics) is ridiculous.

    I haven't seen anyone tear into his data here either because he's such a nonentity as to not be worth disproving or because they really enjoy his anti-Jewish conclusions.
    , @George123
    Asians are also proportionally overrepresented compared to their IQ.

    What it means is, not that whites are discriminated against, but that whites ain't showing up in all senses of that term. Whites simply aren't motivated anymore to do much. This is obvious across the board in all fields.

    If we went by IQ alone whites would be the majority at every elite educational institution in the country.

    Every people, every country, every nation, has a peak of success and then loses motivation to do much. The Chinese were lazy in the 19th century when they thought they were at the top of the world. They re-found their motivation after Europe made them doubt that.

    Whites can be compared to Chinese in the 19th century. They are so arrogant, so self-satisfied, so smug, so sure of their superiority to everyone and everything, that they don't even bother to compete. Competition is for losers. Competition is for those still trying to prove something. Whites feel threatened by no one. They don't even care if Asians make up 70% of these good high schools. Who are Asians? People that still need to prove something, that's who.

    That this is a fatally hubristic attitude is obvious. But all people's enter this phase. Then they get smacked down, and they learn to compete again. China could have easily retained its independence in the 19th century but its incredible arrogance and self-satisfaction caused it to utterly miscalculate its own strength relative to everyone else.

    Who will smack down the West to make it learn to compete again? I wonder. Maybe no one, in which case the West will just die.

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  • […] [email protected] (Vox) Fred Reed observes as much:At Vassar some ditzbunny got blitzed, got laid, and a year later decided that she had been sexually […]

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith
    What an insufferable jackass you are, rastignac.

    "I don’t think any less of you at all I had a wonderful time last night I’m just too close to my previous relationship to be in one right now.”

    That is a grammar error. Three sentences, one period.

    What can you do, Rasty? Read, read, read. Go back to 6th grade, or something.

    Rasty has a point. The ‘then’ – ‘than’ mix-up is easy to make if you don’t expend specific energy double-checking (sort of like ‘there’, they’re, and their). And the difference in meaning between ‘effect’ and ‘affect’ is still not very clear to me and probably not many who don’t write for a living.

    And the run-on sentences? This was an e-mail between college peers. When I write to friends (usually old college friends) I always dumb-down my writing by using less precise diction, simpler sentence structure, etc. It is meant to convey that you regard the addressee as being an equal peer who you have warm feelings toward.

    That this dumbed-down language between peers is de riguer in the U.S. may reveal the probably unfortunate deep-seated anti-intellectualism here, but I don’t think it necessarily means this particular e-mail couldn’t pull off smart-sounding formal writing if she needed to. In other words, run-on-sentences may have been her method for avoiding the kiss-of-social-death hoity-toity intellectual label in America.

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    You know, it's also easy to make if you're hung over.
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  • @stew11
    I believe that it was Sheridan not Sherman who the remark has been attributed. I have been told that the answer went something to the effect that," the only Indians I have met are on the field of battle therefore the only good Indian has been a dead Indian."

    I believe it was General Hezekiah Quayle,the great great grandfather of Dan Quayle,who made the original comment:”A dead Indian can be a good Indian if he is dead but it is a terrible thing to be dead.”

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  • j says:
    @Cloudswrest
    Actually Jews are disproportionately overrepresented at Harvard based on objective measures of merit such as SAT tests, etc. and population. See http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/ by Ron Unz.

    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    He hates the fact that he’s Jewish and wishes he were a goyish millionaire.

    Not being one, the best he can do is try to argue that only HE is special, not the other Jews who cheated their way to wealth.

    He wants you, and any Germans who may be listening, to know that he’s one of the “good jews”.

    I love the guy for doing so much good (see this site, etc) but he’s also a farting imbecile (see: Jews, Mexicans, etc).

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    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.
     
    This may be true, but what does this have to do with the objective fact that jews are disproportionally overrepresented at Harvard, even after taking into account supposed higher average IQ assumptions? Unz isn't the only one who has pointed this out. It means, even after eliminating all non-white affirmative action, non-jewish whites are being discriminated against. Perhaps because they politically have "bad thoughts". They are being squeezed out of elite institutions.
    , @Art
    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    He wants you, and any Germans who may be listening, to know that he’s one of the “good jews”.


    From your post we can gather that you are one of those lemming Jews who never questions your leaders. You believe that they are so smart that they can manipulate the whole world forever and ever.

    Well Mr. Lemming, in three thousand years of human history your leaders have NEVER accomplished that, they have ALWAYS gotten you band wagon lemmings in trouble and run off with the booty – they have always left you little ones holding the bag. Enjoy it while it lasts!

    p.s. Your post drips with hate - illustrating the contempt your culture has for everyone.
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  • @Truth
    From what I've read from the stats here, if admissions were totally "fair", Harvard would have 15 or 20 blacks, 100 Hispanics, a lower number of WASPS than it does now, and be almost totally comprised of Indians, Jews and Asians, thus, it now admits "unqualified whites."

    Actually Jews are disproportionately overrepresented at Harvard based on objective measures of merit such as SAT tests, etc. and population. See http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/ by Ron Unz.

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    Unz is a classical self hating jew and this is reflected all over the place.

    He hates the fact that he's Jewish and wishes he were a goyish millionaire.

    Not being one, the best he can do is try to argue that only HE is special, not the other Jews who cheated their way to wealth.

    He wants you, and any Germans who may be listening, to know that he's one of the "good jews".

    I love the guy for doing so much good (see this site, etc) but he's also a farting imbecile (see: Jews, Mexicans, etc).
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    Do you really think the school will admit "unqualified whites"? What elite school does now? Where would the political pressure to force this come from? You're not qualified to "edit" Fred Reed's essays, my friend.

    From what I’ve read from the stats here, if admissions were totally “fair”, Harvard would have 15 or 20 blacks, 100 Hispanics, a lower number of WASPS than it does now, and be almost totally comprised of Indians, Jews and Asians, thus, it now admits “unqualified whites.”

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    Actually Jews are disproportionately overrepresented at Harvard based on objective measures of merit such as SAT tests, etc. and population. See http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/ by Ron Unz.
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  • Now, about the little drama that took place at Vassar: I have a solution once suggested by Murray Rothbard. I went to a parochial school in high school and believe boys and girls should be, to some extent, physically separated. It is sad but since too many of them can’t behave like responsible adults, it is probably the most convenient and least painful solution to these accusations of rape (whether they are true or not).

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    "It is sad but since too many of them can’t behave like responsible adults, it is probably the most convenient and least painful solution to these accusations of rape (whether they are true or not)"

    Not at all. Universities have lowered their standards to such a degree that they are now full of scum. Most college students shouldn't be in college. They are allowed in because of greed.
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  • . At CalTech, with probably the highest entrance standards in the US, and no affirmative action: Asians 40%, whites 29%, Hispanics 10%, and blacks 1.7%. In the elite high schools of New York, the same pattern holds.

    The left welfare hates Silicon Valley’s tech elite and the cognitive elite of Caltech and MIT. They want the the entire country to become like Detroit.

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  • I believe that it was Sheridan not Sherman who the remark has been attributed. I have been told that the answer went something to the effect that,” the only Indians I have met are on the field of battle therefore the only good Indian has been a dead Indian.”

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    I believe it was General Hezekiah Quayle,the great great grandfather of Dan Quayle,who made the original comment:"A dead Indian can be a good Indian if he is dead but it is a terrible thing to be dead."
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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    being behind everyone but Spain, Ireland, and Poland. Welcome to Vassar.

    But why do Americans assume that they are a superior breed and therefore must always outshine everyone else? Americans are nobody special. I couldn’t count the number of Americans I’ve met who ‘don’t know nuttin bout nuttin’ . That they came out ahead of Spain, Ireland and Poland surprises me; that must be some sort of mistake. Face it, a lot of people here are descended from Europe’s rejects. But just keep chanting, over and over again like a Hare Krishna in a trance:

    USA, USA, USA
    We’re number one, We’re number one

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    It must have something to do with the people that built America from scratch after giving everybody else a millennia head start.

    Now she's just one of lots of countries that traded prosperity for diversity.
    , @Isabella
    In fact, over a lifetime of observation I have come to the conclusion that the lower down the ladder one is, the more vocally do the said persons scream "I (we) are number one". Those who really ARE "number one" have no need to say anything at all.
    , @Realist
    "But why do Americans assume that they are a superior breed and therefore must always outshine everyone else?"

    Unjustified ego. The idea of a form of government where abject stupidity does not disqualify you from voting is....well stupid.
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  • @Gene Su
    I don't think that the decline in academics has anything to do with racial genetics or general indolence on the part of the American. Google John Taylor Gatto, Sam Blumenfeld, and Charlotte Iserbyt. They talk a great deal about the "deliberate dumbing down of America" through fraudulent education.

    John Taylor Gatto, Sam Blumenfeld, and Charlotte Iserbyt have all been systematically marginalized — made invisible. Gatto hammered about the problem for 15 years — ignored.

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  • @rastignac
    You are wrong, Fred, dead wrong, and a insufferable pedant like Miss Fiddich, that old mare, who used to get het up over "than" vs. "then" (pronounced the same way in my nick of woods) or "effect" vs. "affect" (one and the same thing here, too). It's indecent for a male (but maybe "Fred" short for "Frederica"?) to care about this kind of chickenshit. These are spelling errors, which are a hallmark of a badly designed language. But here's the real catch. Spelling errors have nothing to do with grammar or, as you don't seem to know it, syntax. An intellectual poseur should know.

    What an insufferable jackass you are, rastignac.

    “I don’t think any less of you at all I had a wonderful time last night I’m just too close to my previous relationship to be in one right now.”

    That is a grammar error. Three sentences, one period.

    What can you do, Rasty? Read, read, read. Go back to 6th grade, or something.

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    Rasty has a point. The 'then' - 'than' mix-up is easy to make if you don't expend specific energy double-checking (sort of like 'there', they're, and their). And the difference in meaning between 'effect' and 'affect' is still not very clear to me and probably not many who don't write for a living.

    And the run-on sentences? This was an e-mail between college peers. When I write to friends (usually old college friends) I always dumb-down my writing by using less precise diction, simpler sentence structure, etc. It is meant to convey that you regard the addressee as being an equal peer who you have warm feelings toward.

    That this dumbed-down language between peers is de riguer in the U.S. may reveal the probably unfortunate deep-seated anti-intellectualism here, but I don't think it necessarily means this particular e-mail couldn't pull off smart-sounding formal writing if she needed to. In other words, run-on-sentences may have been her method for avoiding the kiss-of-social-death hoity-toity intellectual label in America.
    , @rastignac
    Since you're able to find/recognize three sentences there, then there cannot be a grammatical error anywhere. There maybe a punctuation/spelling error but that's not a grammatical error. A period doesn't a sentence make. John Jeremiah, you're an amateur in matters linguistic.
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  • @rastignac
    You are wrong, Fred, dead wrong, and a insufferable pedant like Miss Fiddich, that old mare, who used to get het up over "than" vs. "then" (pronounced the same way in my nick of woods) or "effect" vs. "affect" (one and the same thing here, too). It's indecent for a male (but maybe "Fred" short for "Frederica"?) to care about this kind of chickenshit. These are spelling errors, which are a hallmark of a badly designed language. But here's the real catch. Spelling errors have nothing to do with grammar or, as you don't seem to know it, syntax. An intellectual poseur should know.

    My Most Illiterate Sire:

    ‘Than’ is not the same word as ‘then’ and ‘affect’ is not the same word as ‘effect’. If you have a university degree and yet still fancy them the same, you are living proof of the damage done to the humanities in American universities since 1960 or so.

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    When English is spoken, there is no diff between "then" and "than" or between "effect" and "affect." There is no phonological difference whatever. Here, "then" and "than" are pronounced the same way. Hence, phonologically, one word. The same with "effect" and "affect." Syntactically, it's a different story. Don't preach to me about linguistics, your insufferable amateur, you. You never got out of hi school. Fred's marking some spelling errors and calling them grammatical (syntactic) errors is like not knowing shit from shinola.
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  • I don’t think that the decline in academics has anything to do with racial genetics or general indolence on the part of the American. Google John Taylor Gatto, Sam Blumenfeld, and Charlotte Iserbyt. They talk a great deal about the “deliberate dumbing down of America” through fraudulent education.

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    John Taylor Gatto, Sam Blumenfeld, and Charlotte Iserbyt have all been systematically marginalized -- made invisible. Gatto hammered about the problem for 15 years -- ignored.
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  • You are wrong, Fred, dead wrong, and a insufferable pedant like Miss Fiddich, that old mare, who used to get het up over “than” vs. “then” (pronounced the same way in my nick of woods) or “effect” vs. “affect” (one and the same thing here, too). It’s indecent for a male (but maybe “Fred” short for “Frederica”?) to care about this kind of chickenshit. These are spelling errors, which are a hallmark of a badly designed language. But here’s the real catch. Spelling errors have nothing to do with grammar or, as you don’t seem to know it, syntax. An intellectual poseur should know.

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    My Most Illiterate Sire:

    'Than' is not the same word as 'then' and 'affect' is not the same word as 'effect'. If you have a university degree and yet still fancy them the same, you are living proof of the damage done to the humanities in American universities since 1960 or so.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith
    What an insufferable jackass you are, rastignac.

    "I don’t think any less of you at all I had a wonderful time last night I’m just too close to my previous relationship to be in one right now.”

    That is a grammar error. Three sentences, one period.

    What can you do, Rasty? Read, read, read. Go back to 6th grade, or something.
    , @markflag
    You, Rasty, are in idiot who is resorting to whining when you don't have an argument. "So what?", she said as she stamped her stiletto healed shoes bought on sale, "the narrative is the important thing, not the grammar."
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  • @Truth
    "More specifically, the school will admit unqualified blacks and Hispanics at the expense of whites, or at the expense of Asians."

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    "More specifically, the school will admit unqualified blacks, Hispanics and whites at the expense of Asians.

    Do you really think the school will admit “unqualified whites”? What elite school does now? Where would the political pressure to force this come from? You’re not qualified to “edit” Fred Reed’s essays, my friend.

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    From what I've read from the stats here, if admissions were totally "fair", Harvard would have 15 or 20 blacks, 100 Hispanics, a lower number of WASPS than it does now, and be almost totally comprised of Indians, Jews and Asians, thus, it now admits "unqualified whites."
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  • “More specifically, the school will admit unqualified blacks and Hispanics at the expense of whites, or at the expense of Asians.”

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    “More specifically, the school will admit unqualified blacks, Hispanics and whites at the expense of Asians.

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    Do you really think the school will admit "unqualified whites"? What elite school does now? Where would the political pressure to force this come from? You're not qualified to "edit" Fred Reed's essays, my friend.
    , @aandrews
    ………………………. edit-edit .....................................

    "More specifically, the school will admit the unqualified at the expense of the qualified."
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  • I could never take UVAgate seriously. To be unapologetically blunt, even if it was all literally true, all those lurid accounts of broken glass and so forth... so what? There are about 15,000 homicides in the US every year. Rapes are an order of magnitude higher; around 250,000 per year as of 2011, according to...
  • It’s not white privilege. It’s Weiss privilege.

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  • The definition has even been loosened to include publishing, er, punishing leaks, if you are a certain Australian found in the territory of a close conservative Swedish ally with laws simultaneously ridiculously liberal and draconian.

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  • Ivy says:

    Erdely and other so-called journalists with chips on their shoulders are a plague on civilized, honest discourse.

    Contemporary media seems to require evermore deconstruction and parsing of backstories to get at whatever truth there may be.

    One silver lining is that articles on Unz.com and similar sites help lay readers pierce the media veil.

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  • P says:

    Speaking specifically of UVA, there were a grand total of 14 recorded sexual offenses on campus in 2013, which translates to a rate of around 70/100,000 rapes when adjusted for just its 20,000 student body. That is lower than the overall US rate of around 100/100,000 according to the NCVS

    You shouldn’t compare the rate of recorded offenses at UVA to the rate of offenses based on victim surveys. Fewer than 50 percent of the offenses reported in victim surveys are reported to authorities, so UVA’s rate of 70 per 100,000 recorded offenses is higher than the corresponding national rate. Is the nature of offenses even the same? “Sexual offense” at UVA versus rape in the NCVS?

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Well you pretty much nailed the whole thing down. Could only add that in Sweden, the most feminist-brainwasht country in the world our home-grown feminist-SJWs love to claim that “all men are rapist”. The only problem is that when you actually take a look at those sitting in jail for rape in Sweden, 50% need a Swedish translator in court, and to judge from their names 90% are neither swedes nor even from Europe but a very specific region down blow…
    But be sure that if you say it straight out the same feminist-SJWs will scream that you are a racist pig….

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  • Let commenting begin.

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  • As the 100th anniversary of Hollywood's first blockbuster classic film, The Birth of a Nation, awkwardly approaches on March 3, it's fascinating to reflect upon how much attitudes have changed in the South toward the threat of black men raping white women. A couple of decades ago, Tom Wolfe dreamed up a plot for A...
  • @GUI
    Girls want the bbc. Can't say I blame them

    Don’t sell the swc short, although it may be.

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  • many are good – 2 examples: Calhoun for college and JJ Watt for pros. And, a “bouncer” would still have had to be attached to a college program to play for pros…look at Butler (worked at Popeye’s, played junior college ball, and little-known state U…wound up with a very big play in the Super Bowl.

    The best players do have their innate skills come to focus sooner or later. I’ve always been skeptical of the idea of “anybody could do that.” My previous post just explains the process of the HS-College-Pro pipeline, nothing much else.

    And, certainly, there are “big guys,” who are recruited/playing on a team to just gum-up the middle – the whole point is to make it difficult for the quarterback and offense to have space and time, which, I’m sure you know. Yet, there are defensive players who are innately skilled in doing something just better, suddenly, that changes the course of the game.

    In some ways, you have to be crazy to play football since the evidence of brain deterioration is now a fact. Yet, the money is too big to ignore by many who have the size, speed, instincts, skills, focus that any sport requires. The best college players who become pros may not have many options career-wise, than to play football…try to get future jobs involving football somewhere, or if a former pro, a job in broadcasting. Believe, me, it is harder to get a job with ESPN than getting accepted at Harvard, or being recruited to play for an SEC/Big 10 school, for that matter.

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  • @ben tillman

    The old-line SEC fans overlook the criminality of the players and pretend things are still what they were 50 years ago.
     
    And they weren't all that great back then. For some reason, when I had Thanksgiving dinner on Long Island one year, one of the guests was a former UGA player who recounted how he used to raise hell with Fran Tarkenton. They didn't get away with murder, but they got away with a lot of stuff that your typical Georgia cracker wouldn't have.

    “Back then,” the “hell raising” was getting drunk and bar fights. Now it’s rape, robbery, assault, etc.

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  • @MC
    "I want my school to eventually be seen as a University of Virginia type of place, not a football school."

    You know that Virginia plays major college football and basketball, right? And that its basketball team is currently ranked #2 in the country? Having major sports teams is part of the identify of UVA. If it didn't, it would have a much different vibe.

    Not only that, but Virginia was in the college baseball finals last year and in the men’s and women’s soccer finals this year. And, their lacrosse teams are always good.

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  • i must be from some other world… the article’s content as well as most of the comments made me violently ill.

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  • “… trying to persuade his daughter to play geisha to visiting 18-year-old cornerbacks?”

    Just for the record, Geishas are neither prostitutes nor bimbos. They are highly intelligent, often highly educated women who provide pleasant companionship for men.

    Unlike western women, they do not regard it as degrading for them to be nice to men or as criminal for men to enjoy their company.

    Very few American college women could qualify to become Geishas even if they wanted to do it.

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  • @The most deplorable one
    Steve, you might be interested in this:

    Trading the Megaphone for the Gavel in Title IX Enforcement


    FACILITATING BIAS AGAINST AND DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON SEXUALLY STIGMATIZED MINORITIES

    From Emmett Till to the Central Park Five, American racial history is laced with vendetta-like scandals in which black men are accused of sexually assaulting white women that become reverse scandals when it is revealed that the accused men were not wrongdoers at all. No reader of To Kill a Mockingbird should be able to forget how this American classic convinces its readers that some of these accusations will be based on racially exploitative evasions of responsibility by white women who willingly had sex with black men and then disavowed it as rape.

     

    It seems that you are guilty of all the prejudices of those southern white racists! Haven't you read To KKKill a Mockingbird?

    But more importantly, isn't this a text-book illustration of the hierarchies of victim-hood? When two different victim classes are pitted against each other, out comes the victim-blaming rhetoric:


    But nothing so malign need be at work when black men show up in the dock: morning-after remorse can make sex that seemed like a good idea at the time look really alarming in retrospect;
     
    What? I thought women never lied about rape!

    The old-line SEC fans overlook the criminality of the players and pretend things are still what they were 50 years ago.

    And they weren’t all that great back then. For some reason, when I had Thanksgiving dinner on Long Island one year, one of the guests was a former UGA player who recounted how he used to raise hell with Fran Tarkenton. They didn’t get away with murder, but they got away with a lot of stuff that your typical Georgia cracker wouldn’t have.

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    "Back then," the "hell raising" was getting drunk and bar fights. Now it's rape, robbery, assault, etc.
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  • UVA is a bit more mixed than you are suggesting. It has a football stadium that holds about 60,000, and regularly has 30,000 in the stands. So there is something a bit different about its college sports (or at least its football).

    joeyjoejoe

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  • “I thought women never lied about rape!”

    Only when it’s about black males. When it’s about white men women are always to be believed, even (or especially) when they’re lying.

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  • @MC
    "I want my school to eventually be seen as a University of Virginia type of place, not a football school."

    You know that Virginia plays major college football and basketball, right? And that its basketball team is currently ranked #2 in the country? Having major sports teams is part of the identify of UVA. If it didn't, it would have a much different vibe.

    You know that Virginia plays major college football and basketball, right?

    Look, until Shawn got hurt, UVA’s football team featuring the Moore “brothers” (Shawn and Herman) was the best in the country in 1990. No doubt about it. Without the injury to Shawn Moore, UVA would have been national champions that year. But I just can’t agree that that’s UVA’s “identity.”

    UVA’s going 0-29 against Clemson in football before 1990 and winning 1 ACC basketball championship in 61 years before 2014 should put this in perspective.

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  • @MC
    "I want my school to eventually be seen as a University of Virginia type of place, not a football school."

    You know that Virginia plays major college football and basketball, right? And that its basketball team is currently ranked #2 in the country? Having major sports teams is part of the identify of UVA. If it didn't, it would have a much different vibe.

    “I want my school to eventually be seen as a University of Virginia type of place, not a football school.”

    You know that Virginia plays major college football and basketball, right? And that its basketball team is currently ranked #2 in the country? Having major sports teams is part of the identify of UVA.

    You failed to mention that its baseball team is also ranked #2 in the country. And that its soccer team is about a million times better than any of its other teams. And you failed to mention what the school’s founder — Thomas Jefferson — said:

    In 1785 Thomas Jefferson wrote to his fifteen-year-old nephew, Peter Carr, regarding what he considered the best form of exercise: “…I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.”

    You’ve overlooked something significant about UVA’s identity.

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  • @Anonymous
    Right, but don't jump to conclusions that girls don't tell, um, white lies.

    Right, but don’t jump to conclusions that girls don’t tell, um, white lies.

    Implying that I can’t tell when a woman I have known for 25 years is lying reflects poorly on you. And she wouldn’t be able to tell “white” lies in the sense you’re talking about. Her mother was Korean.

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  • @anon
    Yes, I've been saying this for years. Your comment was great until the end. What are you waiting for? Yes, of course, stop being a "huge college football fan."

    I attended a major state school football powerhouse. Have not been to a game in 14 years. Those thugs are not "students" and they don't give a damn about me or my school or even my civilization. Fuck them. I want my school to eventually be seen as a University of Virginia type of place, not a football school.

    “I want my school to eventually be seen as a University of Virginia type of place, not a football school.”

    You know that Virginia plays major college football and basketball, right? And that its basketball team is currently ranked #2 in the country? Having major sports teams is part of the identify of UVA. If it didn’t, it would have a much different vibe.

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    “I want my school to eventually be seen as a University of Virginia type of place, not a football school.”

    You know that Virginia plays major college football and basketball, right? And that its basketball team is currently ranked #2 in the country? Having major sports teams is part of the identify of UVA.

     

    You failed to mention that its baseball team is also ranked #2 in the country. And that its soccer team is about a million times better than any of its other teams. And you failed to mention what the school's founder -- Thomas Jefferson -- said:

    In 1785 Thomas Jefferson wrote to his fifteen-year-old nephew, Peter Carr, regarding what he considered the best form of exercise: "...I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."
     
    You've overlooked something significant about UVA's identity.
    , @ben tillman

    You know that Virginia plays major college football and basketball, right?
     
    Look, until Shawn got hurt, UVA's football team featuring the Moore "brothers" (Shawn and Herman) was the best in the country in 1990. No doubt about it. Without the injury to Shawn Moore, UVA would have been national champions that year. But I just can't agree that that's UVA's "identity."

    UVA's going 0-29 against Clemson in football before 1990 and winning 1 ACC basketball championship in 61 years before 2014 should put this in perspective.

    , @Marty T
    Not only that, but Virginia was in the college baseball finals last year and in the men's and women's soccer finals this year. And, their lacrosse teams are always good.
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  • @JSM

    I wonder if the better sort of schools will start to ditch major sports in favor of actual student athletics. I’m a huge college football fan, and therefore conflicted about this.
     
    Hi, MC. I am curious about your being conflicted. I ask sincerely, because I just don't "get" the appeal of football, at all, but particularly, what is it about *college* football that makes you crave it so much?

    Because, you see, I've never understood why televised, big-bucks semi-pro football is associated with college at all. College is supposed to be intellectual pursuits. You know, physics, math, ethics.

    Certainly, I can see why a college might sponsor intramural sports just as a way for their true scholars to have some fun and activity for their physical health and relaxation, but why should institutions whose raison d'etre is the life of the mind serve as a free (taxpayer-financed) training center for fantastically rich professional football team owners?

    It seems to me that, like baseball with its farm teams that the major league itself funds and recruits from, NFL should have to recruit, teach and pay its own dam*ed rookies, nowhere near the college campuses.

    “I am curious about your being conflicted. I ask sincerely, because I just don’t “get” the appeal of football, at all, but particularly, what is it about *college* football that makes you crave it so much?”

    Well, “crave” might be putting it a little too strongly, but there’s a lot that I love about college football.

    1. The game itself is a fun spectacle of athleticism and strategy.
    2. Pure territorial tribalism strikes a chord.
    3. Nostalgia for an exciting time in one’s life.
    4. Traditions which echo from the past (there’s something neat about how Michigan or OSU will always have the same basic colors, uniforms, fight songs, etc)
    5. 90% of the players know that they have no future in the pros. Thus, they are playing purely for pride, which makes for good drama.
    6. Rivalries which are quite old for a young country like ours.

    I could think of more, but you get the point. There’s a lot to like about college football, but the utter shambolicism of guys with a 13 ACT score pretending to be students at UCLA or UNC or wherever does detract from the enjoyment. If the NFL started a minor league, I would probably still watch college football and enjoy it more. In fact, when all the best high school basketball players used to jump to the NBA without stopping at a college (this is essentially prohibited now) back in the Oughts, that was probably my favorite time to watch college basketball.

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    You're part of the problem.

    You don’t think I know that? Why else would I feel conflicted about it?

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  • The Obama administration made two announcements Friday regarding health insurance coverage under Obamacare — one involving some 800,000 inaccurate tax forms sent to people who purchased health insurance through Healthcare.
    800 rejectees at Carnegie Mellon University unhappy. Land of the free, home of the inaccurate. The check is in the mail!

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  • Dateline Jersey: “Guinea broke my heart … I wasn’t prepared to watch entire families die. I wasn’t prepared to watch villages die,” said Watson-Stryker, a Rutgers graduate. That’s Life and then you die.

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  • @Lagertha
    Ok, so, my very white, very Aryan (Finnish, German, Scottish, Armenian - yeah, weird, oldest Christian country IN THE WORLD) sons were ALL-State (defensive line) for football, wrestling, rugby; academically, included. My eldest was also "All-American" for fencing, with addition to soccer & rugby. The B & W thing is something EVERYONE here, needs to avoid speculating about because it's tacky...if you don't have a kid in HS right now, you haven't a clue about the demographics of all the sports of HS. Why am I espousing this? - well, I may be younger or more worldly than you. And, like, you spelled 'defense' wrong.

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/defence

    I´m not saying football defensive players are unathletic per se, just that juice and recruiting big guys can do the trick. Without the need of very special skills.In other words, a bouncer could play those positions. Prove me wrong.

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  • @Anonymous
    The opening references to Birth of a Nation, and outdated racial stereotypes, provide an awkward, if not irrelevant, sequey into the central subject matter of the column ~ college football programs' use of co-ed 'escorts;' which is fundamentally a story about gender, not race. The inexplicable phrenological reference to 'old penitentiary face' seems like a throwback to the racist social science that fueled Jim Crow.

    This may be a failure to communicate problem. Steve understands what you are saying. I’m not sure that you understand what he is saying.

    Even when people pretend otherwise, it usually is about race.

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  • “The best-paid public workers in the state of California are the athletic coaches at UCLA and UC Berkeley, with compensation often eclipsing $2 million a year, according to data from the state controller’s office.” OC Register

    You want to play, coach and dodge.

    “Ansel Adams elevated dodging and burning to an art form. Many of his famous prints were manipulated in the darkroom with these two techniques. Adams wrote a comprehensive book on producing prints called The Print (Adams 1995), which features dodging and burning prominently, in the context of his Zone System.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodging_and_burning

    Create your own system or be enslaved by anothers.

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  • @sunny

    No family qualifies for federal financial aid to cover 90% of tuition (even if another child is at university the same time) if the family earns more than $130,000.00 annual salary which they must declare on the FAFSA.
     
    True, but, two unemployed college students married to each other qualify for 95% of their college tuition room and board.

    Go

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  • @Anonymous
    That would probably be too heavy handed and kill the intentional irony of the book and thus diminish its literary value.

    The reality of black on white murders are considered by the MSM (for the most part) to be “too heavy handed.”

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  • @BB753
    Thugs on steroids aren´t athletes, let alone students. Let´s be honest, what kind of athleticism is involved in playing football in defence positions? Just being big, juiced up and reasonably quick seem enough. Please enlighten me.

    Ok, so, my very white, very Aryan (Finnish, German, Scottish, Armenian – yeah, weird, oldest Christian country IN THE WORLD) sons were ALL-State (defensive line) for football, wrestling, rugby; academically, included. My eldest was also “All-American” for fencing, with addition to soccer & rugby. The B & W thing is something EVERYONE here, needs to avoid speculating about because it’s tacky…if you don’t have a kid in HS right now, you haven’t a clue about the demographics of all the sports of HS. Why am I espousing this? – well, I may be younger or more worldly than you. And, like, you spelled ‘defense’ wrong.

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    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/defence

    I´m not saying football defensive players are unathletic per se, just that juice and recruiting big guys can do the trick. Without the need of very special skills.In other words, a bouncer could play those positions. Prove me wrong.

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  • @sunny

    No family qualifies for federal financial aid to cover 90% of tuition (even if another child is at university the same time) if the family earns more than $130,000.00 annual salary which they must declare on the FAFSA.
     
    True, but, two unemployed college students married to each other qualify for 95% of their college tuition room and board.

    Go

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  • @Anonymous
    I'm familiar with student loans. It doesn't change my point about price discrimination. Price discrimination and student loans are not mutually exclusive.

    duh

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