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    Most Americans have no idea of just how powerful Israeli and Jewish interests are. Two recent stories out of Kansas and Texas illustrate exactly how supporters of Israel in the United States are ready, willing and able to subvert the existing constitutional and legal protections that uphold the right to fair and impartial treatment for...
  • @JW500
    This is very amusing. The Neo-Nazis and Jew-haters on this forum do not actually give a damn about the poor Palestinians or the Arabs or Muslims more broadly. Why would you care about supporters of that death cult, Islam?

    So what is all this Jew-bashing and Israel-bashing about? Very simple. Most of the world tolerated Jews were they were pitiful victims, but that did not save them from the Holocaust. But the concept of a Jew who punches back...hard and of a whole nation of Jews who have audacity to claim their own homeland and be willing to use whatever means necessary to defend it...now that really get your gall doesn't it?

    Not only is Israel the only decent nation in the Middle East and one that shares our beliefs but it is also the strongest. It is natural for the US to ally with her and it is also moral and religiously mandated (unless you are an atheist).

    …….now that really get your gall doesn’t it?

    No what galls us is your hypocrisy and parasitism.
    One day you claim to be mighty warriors, the next day you cry about a bunch of rag tag Palestine freedom fighters throwing rocks.

    The truth is you are nothing, you never were anything except a primitive tribe hopping from one country to another, being run from one country to another because of your parasitic ways.

    You were never capable of creating a civilization or a country until WWll made it possible for you to become ‘victim beggars’ …crying to the world for handouts for a Jewish homeland . And look at what the Jews created in their homeland…a US welfare client state, a little midget Nazi state with warriors capable only of shooting women and children
    You didn’t build Israel the US and Germany built Israel and are still building Israel -without the gentile world’s money and protection you would no longer exist.

    Some day the US will be finished with you, its only a matter of time and the more you puff up on your hubris the sooner it will happen.

    And when you’re finished in America you’re finished every where….

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  • @Dr. X

    Can someone please explain to me (with limited snark, if possible) why you side with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel?
     
    I don't side with Hamas or Hezbollah over Israel. I think a lot of Muslims are nutjobs and lunatics. However, I as an American am under no obligation to pick one side or the other. America should be neutral with regard to Muslim nutjobs, as well as Jewish nutjobs who think that Yahweh made them the "Chosen People" and will give them the "Promised Land."

    Not. My. Problem.

    As John Quincy Adams said, America "goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy" and America "is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

    Screw Hamas and Hezbollah, and screw Israel, too.

    Not. My. Problem

    “Something happens…then you pick a side”….Graham Green…..”The Quiet American’

    They may not be your problem but your useless kind are America’s problem.

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  • @Cloak And Dagger
    Yes, pandering to Israel has to stop - but how will it? It won't stop until we chop off all the heads of the Hydra. There is a good reason why all these pols are pandering to Israel, and with the exception of the ones who are jewish, I suspect the rest are doing it for three reasons:

    1. Blackmail
    2. Bribes
    3. Threats

    The blackmail part is easy. As the Harvey Weinstein case is uncovering scads of others in Hollywood, Washington D.C. is also rife with sexual deviants. With AMDOCS processing all US phone billing, the Mossad undoubtedly has fat dossiers on every single one of these corrupt politicians. Moreover, every politician that has taken an AIPAC-paid trip to Israel has undoubtedly had compromising pictures taken with honeypots (and the male equivalent for female politicians). You will recall that Epstein had video cameras in all the bedrooms on his island mansion to record his guests in the company of underaged prostitutes. You can bet that he has extensive footage on Bill Clinton, among others, which is why he got away with a very brief stay in white-collar "prison".

    http://smoloko.com/wp-content/uploads/epstienPedoPHILEmossadblackmail.jpg

    Bribes are easy too, and funded by the US taxpayers. Congress allocates huge amounts of direct and indirect "aid" to Israel, a part of which is returned from Israel to fund the Israel Lobby, which in turn contributes the the campaigns of their favorite politicians - who then allocate more funds for Israel. This is a diabolically perfect system.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/64/ea/d8/64ead8f51077fcd85e059a2b634f883b--org--mother-jones.jpg

    Threats. For the occasional incorruptible politician, like Cynthia McKinney and others, the money goes to bribe their opponents, and since elections are won based on how much money is spent (with some exceptions), it doesn't take long to boot the incorruptible politician out of office, to be replaced by more devil spawn.

    http://smoloko.com/wp-content/uploads/CynthiaMckinneyMemeIsraelPledge.jpg

    We have to take them all down. But how?

    We have to take them all down. But how?

    Patriot assassination team?

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  • The Holocaust was necessary.

    Explains a lot.

    What happened to “I give up”?

    What my comment attempts to point out is the hypocrisy of the defenders of Zionism when they condemn the Nazis for carrying out the holocaust on strictly moral grounds and then proceed to defend all the horrors committed by the Jewish state on the basis of “the ends justify the means.”

    I trust this explains a lot.

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  • The Holocaust was necessary.

    Explains a lot.

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  • @JW500
    This is very amusing. The Neo-Nazis and Jew-haters on this forum do not actually give a damn about the poor Palestinians or the Arabs or Muslims more broadly. Why would you care about supporters of that death cult, Islam?

    So what is all this Jew-bashing and Israel-bashing about? Very simple. Most of the world tolerated Jews were they were pitiful victims, but that did not save them from the Holocaust. But the concept of a Jew who punches back...hard and of a whole nation of Jews who have audacity to claim their own homeland and be willing to use whatever means necessary to defend it...now that really get your gall doesn't it?

    Not only is Israel the only decent nation in the Middle East and one that shares our beliefs but it is also the strongest. It is natural for the US to ally with her and it is also moral and religiously mandated (unless you are an atheist).

    Most of the world tolerated Jews were they were pitiful victims, but that did not save them from the Holocaust. But the concept of a Jew who punches back…hard and of a whole nation of Jews who have audacity to claim their own homeland and be willing to use whatever means necessary to defend it…now that really get your gall doesn’t it?

    You do realize you’ve juxtaposed “the holocaust” and using “whatever means necessary” in the same paragraph, don’t you?

    It is natural for the US to ally with her and it is also moral and religiously mandated…

    If it is so natural, as you suggest, why do they need the services of The Lobby?

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  • @JW500
    This is very amusing. The Neo-Nazis and Jew-haters on this forum do not actually give a damn about the poor Palestinians or the Arabs or Muslims more broadly. Why would you care about supporters of that death cult, Islam?

    So what is all this Jew-bashing and Israel-bashing about? Very simple. Most of the world tolerated Jews were they were pitiful victims, but that did not save them from the Holocaust. But the concept of a Jew who punches back...hard and of a whole nation of Jews who have audacity to claim their own homeland and be willing to use whatever means necessary to defend it...now that really get your gall doesn't it?

    Not only is Israel the only decent nation in the Middle East and one that shares our beliefs but it is also the strongest. It is natural for the US to ally with her and it is also moral and religiously mandated (unless you are an atheist).

    Hey JW500 – Israel is the rectum of the world.

    Apartheid, squatting, summery killing, shooting children, jailing children, detention without trial, torture, trafficking in body parts, a mean unjust army, greatest per capita arms sales, hidden nukes, wars on all its neighbors. All counter to Western values.

    Every day, more and more people see Israel for what it is – an unbounded evil.

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  • This is very amusing. The Neo-Nazis and Jew-haters on this forum do not actually give a damn about the poor Palestinians or the Arabs or Muslims more broadly. Why would you care about supporters of that death cult, Islam?

    So what is all this Jew-bashing and Israel-bashing about? Very simple. Most of the world tolerated Jews were they were pitiful victims, but that did not save them from the Holocaust. But the concept of a Jew who punches back…hard and of a whole nation of Jews who have audacity to claim their own homeland and be willing to use whatever means necessary to defend it…now that really get your gall doesn’t it?

    Not only is Israel the only decent nation in the Middle East and one that shares our beliefs but it is also the strongest. It is natural for the US to ally with her and it is also moral and religiously mandated (unless you are an atheist).

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    Hey JW500 – Israel is the rectum of the world.

    Apartheid, squatting, summery killing, shooting children, jailing children, detention without trial, torture, trafficking in body parts, a mean unjust army, greatest per capita arms sales, hidden nukes, wars on all its neighbors. All counter to Western values.

    Every day, more and more people see Israel for what it is – an unbounded evil.
    , @geokat62

    Most of the world tolerated Jews were they were pitiful victims, but that did not save them from the Holocaust. But the concept of a Jew who punches back…hard and of a whole nation of Jews who have audacity to claim their own homeland and be willing to use whatever means necessary to defend it…now that really get your gall doesn’t it?
     
    You do realize you've juxtaposed "the holocaust" and using "whatever means necessary" in the same paragraph, don't you?

    It is natural for the US to ally with her and it is also moral and religiously mandated...
     
    If it is so natural, as you suggest, why do they need the services of The Lobby?
    , @renfro

    .......now that really get your gall doesn’t it?
     
    No what galls us is your hypocrisy and parasitism.
    One day you claim to be mighty warriors, the next day you cry about a bunch of rag tag Palestine freedom fighters throwing rocks.

    The truth is you are nothing, you never were anything except a primitive tribe hopping from one country to another, being run from one country to another because of your parasitic ways.

    You were never capable of creating a civilization or a country until WWll made it possible for you to become 'victim beggars' ...crying to the world for handouts for a Jewish homeland . And look at what the Jews created in their homeland...a US welfare client state, a little midget Nazi state with warriors capable only of shooting women and children
    You didn't build Israel the US and Germany built Israel and are still building Israel -without the gentile world's money and protection you would no longer exist.

    Some day the US will be finished with you, its only a matter of time and the more you puff up on your hubris the sooner it will happen.

    And when you're finished in America you're finished every where....

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  • PART I: Who, Which Tribe, Exactly, Gave Us Western Civilization? (Read on, to find out)

    I kind of get a “kick” out of these “alternative” media guys (like Alex Jones, and many, many others), who keep TALKING about “empowering people with TRUTH”, but yet, RARELY, if ever, provide ANY OF THE ACTUAL FACTS, WHICH, IF KNOWN & COMPREHENDED BY THE PEOPLE, WOULD THEN ~ ACTUALLY ~ EMPOWER THE PEOPLE.

    Here are MOST, though not all, of those HISTORICAL FACTS:

    NOTE: I am an (AVID, amateur) historian, and have spent the past nearly two decades now, since 1999, reading, researching, and investigating the HIDDEN history of the West. Below are some of my most important findings. I cannot recommend the books of COMYNS BEAUMONT highly enough! I’ve found NO OTHER HISTORIAN that comes close to matching the depth of research and evidence of COMYNS BEAUMONT, as it relates to TRUE ANCIENT HISTORY. Here is an important quote from COMYNS BEAUMONT:

    “Despite the fact that the modern Jew has only in very rare cases any of the Blood of ancient Judah, the belief persists that Israel is the ancient home of the Jewish people, and the ancient conflict carries on there, by proxy.” – pg. 226, THE GREAT DECEPTION: SYRIA, BRITAIN AND THE ROMAN CONSPIRACY, by Comyns Beaumont.

    NOTE: What follows is the SAME quote (above), with EDITORIAL NOTES:

    “Despite the fact that the modern Jew [90% OF WHOM ARE DESCENDED FROM EASTERN EUROPEAN YIDDISH-SPEAKERS, WHO HAVE, AND WHO HAD, NOTHING ~ WHATSOEVER ~ TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL ACTUAL ANCIENT HOLY LAND, BRITAIN!] has only in very rare cases any of the Blood of ancient Judah, the belief persists that [ROTHSCHILD-] Israel [established in 1948, FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, EVER, in historic PALESTINE] is the ancient home of the [SO-CALLED] Jewish [AGAIN, 90% YIDDISH], people, and the ancient conflict carries on there, by proxy.” – pg. 226, THE GREAT DECEPTION: SYRIA, BRITAIN AND THE ROMAN CONSPIRACY, by Comyns Beaumont.

    Here’s the “kicker”:

    Edinburgh, Scotland = Jerusalem (Both Old Testament & NEW). I know, sounds “crazy” until you read the extensive & detailed evidence, provided by a man that I consider a true GENIUS ~ Comyns Beaumont.

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    The ENTIRETY OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION, HAS BEEN COMPLETELY HIJACKED BY SO-CALLED “JEWS”

    When did it happen? By 1540 AD. But, that was just when it ~ STARTED. It was a “fait accompli” by about 1815 AD. (Find out why, below).

    There really are but two questions to be asked (ok, maybe three): 1) WHO, EXACTLY, GAVE US WESTERN CIVILIZATION? 2) Are the so-called “Jews” [really, 90% YIDZ] famous for their MANY & GREAT civilizations of antiquity? 3) Can EITHER the YIDDISH-SPEAKERS of EASTERN-EUROPEAN origin, whose descendants comprise 90% of those who today call themselves “Jews”, or their 10% “Sephardi” co-religionists ~ can EITHER of these two groups ~ claim descent from the ancient Ibri, Iberi, of Illyria (also called Siluria) who, according to Comyns Beaumont are the true, original Jews (who inhabited the ancient land, that we today call Britain)?

    Of course, it doesn’t take a degree in “rocket science” to answer either of those first two questions. However, CLEARLY, true History has been “occulted” (which, of course, just means HIDDEN), from the masses, or those un-initiated into the TRUE HIDDEN HISTORY of the West.

    The PROCESS of Western Civilization being hijacked by “Jews” (SION-ists, ZION-ists, really predominantly YIDDISH-SPEAKERS) really began in earnest, when the TRUE Aristocracy of ENGLAND the young LANDED & TITLED (but fiat-cash-poor) Nobility/Noblemen of England, began marrying the daughters of wealthy “Jew”-ish bankers & merchants, their offspring, having a “Jew”-ish mother, were now considered “Jews” among the “Jews”, but now, also had LAND & TITLES of English NOBILITY (in name only.)

    Downloading the TRUTH, in 5,4,3,2,1… (Do you KNOW who actually RULES America? Find out).

    1) An ABSOLUTE MUST Read! Is the New World Order “Jewish”?

    https://www.henrymakow.com/000808.html

    2) The “Jewish” Conspiracy is British Imperialism: (I have a copy of the L.G. Pine book, which Henry Makow refers to! It’s all there!)

    https://www.henrymakow.com/000447.html

    3) Banking Cartel is the Cause of Humanity’s Woes:

    https://www.savethemales.ca/260602.html

    4) German Historian Says Rothschilds are Chasid Puppets

    https://www.henrymakow.com/historian_demands_action_on_do.html

    (Or, is it HUMANITY, ITSELF (by going along with the Western Int’l Central Bankers & their policies, along with their Allied “Globalists” & legions of minions – Jesuits, Freemasons, FABIAN-Socialists, Socialists, social-justice-warriors, LIBTARDS, Communists, & Sion-ists/Zion-ists) that is the problem?)

    5) Read ALBION & ZION UNITED: THE BRIZI/JEWZI WORLD MENACE, by Veronika Kuzniar (first published, 1940).

    6) Read ENGLAND UNDER THE JEWS, by Joseph Banister (1907).

    Watch these three videos:

    A) All Wars Are Bankers’ Wars

    B) Minority Rule: The Rise of Political Correctness – Documentary

    C)1666 Sabbatean-Frankist Illuminati History (Jakob Frank, Adam Weishaupt, Mayer Amschel Rothschild co-created the “Order of the Illuminati” on May 1, 1776)

    NOTE: The “British-Israelites” have a FAR GREATER CLAIM to being descended from the Original Jews ~ the Ibri or Iberi of Ancient Britain ~ than do any of the 90% of so-called “Jews” today, who are descended from Ashkenazi “Jews” from Eastern Europe, who spoke YIDDISH, and originated in ancient Khazaria. Read the work of COMYNS BEAUMONT, in addition to THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, by Arthur Koestler. Question: What does YIDDISH have to do with the ancient Hebrew language?

    Again ~ Who Gave Us Western Civilization? (Athens, & Sparta, Greece. From WHOM ~ from which TRIBE, exactly, are the ancient Athenians & Spartans descended? (Both Greeks & Romans correctly claimed descent from ancient Trojans, who originally hailed from an area on or near the BALTIC SEA! Also, who exactly, gave us the Declaration of Independence, & the U.S. Constitution, AND ITS BILL OF RIGHTS?)

    Was it Asians? Arabs? Africans? Latinos? Eastern-European Slavics or Yidz (Yiddish-speakers)? (Think about it.)

    Again, the answer to THAT question does NOT require a degree in “Rocket Science”.

    Quote: “The Revolution won’t happen with guns, rather it will happen incrementally, year by year, generation by generation. (((We))) will gradually infiltrate their educational institutions and their political offices, transforming them slowly into Marxist entities as we move towards universal egalitarianism.” — (((Max Horkheimer)))

    Egalitarian-ism? Add yet ANOTHER “-ism” to the ever-growing list of Western “elite” “Jew”-ish [YIDDISH] “-ism’s”. You see, the Western “elites” are playing us ~ ALL ~ off against each other ~ to keep us ALL distracted from their FIAT RULE.

    Question: Who, which tribe, exactly, gave the world CIVILIZATION? Who were the ancient Athenians/GREEKS? Where did they come from? FIND OUT!

    Have you read the work of COMYNS BEAUMONT? He wrote several books, probably the most important of which are 1) THE RIDDLE OF PREHISTORIC BRITAIN, 2) BRITAIN: THE KEY TO WORLD HISTORY, and 3) THE GREAT DECEPTION: SYRIA, BRITAIN AND THE ROMAN CONSPIRACY (all of which can be obtained NEW, here: http://blackhorsebooks.storenvy.com/collections/1119696-suppressed-and-alternative-histories/products/4157699-the-riddle-of-prehistoric-britain-by-comyns-beaumont-paperback)

    According to Comyns Beaumont, Britain IS the “Holy Land” of the Bible (BOTH Old Testament & NEW). In fact, he states in the intro. that the history of the Old Testament is the history of Atlantis. IF you read Italian Engineer FELICE VINCI who wrote THE BALTIC ORIGINS OF HOMERS EPIC TALES, you’ll see that what COMYNS BEAUMONT was writing about in his work, is fully supported by FELICE VINCI. Also, read ATLANTIS FROM A GEOGRAPHERS PERSPECTIVE, by ULF ERLINGSSON. (You can obtain both of these books, by F. Vinci & U. Erlingsson, on Amazon.com)

    It appears FROM THE ACTUAL EVIDENCE, that the remnant of “Atlantis” (Old Testament-era history) which exists today can be found in the NW British Isles. The original “Pillars of Hercules” were the southern tip of Norway, and to the South and West, Denmark (NOT Gibraltar or Cadiz, Spain & N. Africa/Tangier, Morocco). Question: What lay beyond these ORIGINAL “Pillars of Hercules” (or Herakles)? Answer: The British Isles (Plato’s Atlantis). Some 12,000 years ago (and more), the British Isles were still ATTACHED to Europe, by a land-bridge, which connected ancient Ireland with Denmark, a land-bridge which is now submerged, beneath the English Channel, & North Atlantic. According to Comyns Beaumont, the Shetland/Orkney Islands are a remnant of ancient “Atlantis” or “Atland”. It is most likely that this is also the source of the Mexican “myth” of “Aztlan”, brought to Mexico by the clearly (as depicted on ancient stelae of Mexico) WHITE, “CAUCASIAN”, BEARDED “Quetzalcoatl”. These ancient “Hyperborean” people were a SEA-FARING people, LONG prior to Leif Erikson! They were very likely the people who were the “Bringers of Civilization”, following THE BIBLICAL FLOOD, to places like EGYPT, SUMER, and the INDUS VALLEY, as they migrated out of the White, Sacred, Blessed, or FORTUNATE Isles, to more hospitable climes, AFTER THE CATACLYSM!

    The ancient “British” Peoples affected by the Cataclysm which sunk portions of ancient “Atlantis”, and brought about the so-called “myth” of Atlantis ~ MIGRATED SOUTH ~ to the much warmer Mediterranean (and carried their ancestral memory, oral history & “myths” with them!) The ancestors of the Classical Greeks ~ were “Hyperboreans” ~ the Bronze Age and earlier Northern and Western European Peoples, who inhabited present-day Britain, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland (Read Felice Vinci & Comyns Beaumont). The so-called “Celts” ~ really all the descendants of so-called “Indo-Europeans”, including Germans, and Scandinavians ~ these “Arya” peoples share a common ancestry and history, that has clearly been tampered with since the time of ancient Rome, and Roman Emperors Vespasian & Constantine. (The Romans hunted down and slaughtered the Druid Priests of Anglesey, Wales, around 60 AD, exactly during Vespasian’s era. Read Terry Jones’ BARBARIANS, to find out who the REAL barbarians of that era were! The Druids were the men of KNOW-ledge ~ the CELTIC HIGH PRIESTS OF THEIR ERA!)

    History begins at Sumer? Sure it does (facetious). The real question is: Where was UR, originally? (Comyns Beaumont answers this question). Civilization arrived already in its highest form, from the beginning in Sumer, Egypt, and the Indus Valley, as if it had been transplanted there from somewhere else! Recall that King Menes (Minos), the son of Sargon of Akkad (who called himself a “Guti” or Goth), Uniter of Upper & Lower Egypt, is buried in Ireland. Recall also, that Meritaten, daughter of Akhenaton, sister of Tutankhamun, also called Scota, returned to her ancestors’ ancient homeland (the British Isles) and is buried there as well. (Read L.A. Waddell in his work The Phoenician Origin of Britons, Scots and Anglo-Saxons, & THE MAKERS OF CIVILIZATION. Also, read Ralph Ellis’ book on Queen Scota.)

    It appears, that we have been DECEIVED well beyond even our wildest imagination(s). Our Western CIVILIZATION & heritage is FAR GREATER, HISTORICALLY than Western “elite” (Anglo-Judaic, SION-ist, ZION-ist) & COMMUN-ist “Jew”-ish (really, predominantly 90%-YIDDISH) POLITICAL CORRECTNESS will now allow. According to Comyns Beaumont, and his VERY convincing array of evidence brought forward in his work, supported by the work of Italian Engineer, Felice Vinci, we can thank Emperor Constantine for the 1,600+ year deception, regarding the TRUE location of the earliest recorded events from especially the Old Testament (but also the New Testament).

    (NOTE: Prior to about 1500 AD, it was considered a SIN by the Vatican (punishable by ex-communication) for anyone to charge INTEREST (USURY) on a loan! (Per Historian, Michael A. Hoffman II) Gee, I wonder what changed?)

    WHAT MUST AMERICANS ~ KNOW ~ IN ORDER TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?

    Here is what MOST Americans are unfortunately practically TOTALLY ignorant of: “Jew”-ish (predominantly 90% Yiddish/Khazar) control over Western Civilization including ALL it’s primary institutions!

    ALL ~ the information anyone requires to KNOW why the world (and especially AMERICA) is the way that it is ~ is readily available on the Internet. Yet, how many WHITE, CAUCASIAN (non-“Jew”-ish, really non-Yiddish, non-KHAZAR) AMERICANS of NW European Descent (especially “Leftists” & ZION-IST “Christians”) KNOW the following established FACTS from history:

    #1 The “Society of Jesus” (Jesuits) was created by Spanish “Marrano” or “Converso” “Jews” led by Ignatius Loyola, from Spain, in 1540 AD. Secretly-practicing “Jews” gained total control over the Vatican, by 1540 AD! Again, the question remains, was Ignatius Loyola descended from the ancient Ibri, Iberi, Illyrians/Silurians of which Comyns Beaumont writes in his work? “Iberia” is the ancient name of the Spanish Peninsula, itself, but can Ignatius Loyola claim descent from the ancient Ibri, Iberi, Illyrians/Silurians of which Comyns Beaumont writes?

    #2 Jesuit -trained Ingolstadt Professor Adam Weishaupt created and rolled out, the “Order of the Illuminati” (May 1, 1776) in order to HIJACK Speculative FREEMASONRY (est. 1717, London) FROM THE TOP, for the Rothschilds. By 1811, the Rothschild name appears in the official membership list of Freemasonry. Before it became SPECULATIVE Freemasonry, it’s roots can be traced back to the ancient Druid Priests.

    #3 Mayer Amschel [Bauer] Rothschild became the financier to William IX of Hesse-Kassel in 1789. A “Jew” was now in control of a GOVERNMENT’S money-supply. (William IX of Hesse-Kassel inherited a fortune, when his Father Frederick II earned about 5 million British pounds from renting Hessian mercenaries to England in it’s war against the American Colonies ~ a nearly unheard of sum at that time. Rothschild now administered this fortune & had major influence over Hesse-Kassel’s finances).

    #4 In AD 1815 as Napoleon was losing the Battle of Waterloo, Nathan Mayer Rothschild essentially took a controlling position on the London Stock Exchange. In that same year, the British Pound surpassed the French Franc as the reserve currency of Europe. The British Pound would maintain this position for at least the next 105 years. During that 105 years, practicing-“Jews” would become accepted as members of the HOUSE OF LORDS! in English Parliament, due to the efforts of Bejamin D’Israeli & the Rothschilds.

    #5 In the 1820’s, the Rothschilds became “Bankers to the Vatican” (& to the “Jew”-ish-controlled Jesuits). Think of this as a “JEW”-ISH (Yiddish/KHAZAR) CORPORATE MERGER and consolidation of power & control.

    #6 COMMUNISM is a “Jew”-ish creation. It was created by Moses Hess & Karl Marx (& Friedrich Engels). 1/4 “Jew” Lenin, and “Jew” Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) ~ both FREEMASONS & COMMUNISTS ~ were FINANCED by Western ZIONIST “Jews” Jacob Schiff, and Paul & Max Warburg, among others. The newly formed “Bolshevik” government in 1917 in Russia, was at least 72-82% “Jew”-ish in composition, with at least 265 of those “Jews” hailing from the Lower East Side of Manhattan (whose parents & grandparents spoke YIDDISH, and hailed from Eastern Europe!, before arriving on the shores of AMERICA! in the late 1800’s!) According to Nobel Laureate Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, some 66 MILLION Russians (mostly ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS) ~ Peasants ~ and Nobles ~ were SLAUGHTERED by these “Jews”, between 1917 and 1953. (In my research, I even found a YALE-connection, to Mao, who under his COMMUNIST-inspired regime, slaughtered some 20-40 million CHINESE. Recall that Yale is home to the Chapter 322, Skull & Bones secret society, to which Prescott Bush, George H.W. Bush, and George W. “Dubya” Bush belong, as Alumni.)

    #7 ZIONISM is a “Jew”-ish creation. Its creation is attributed to Theodor Herzl (1897). It is a “Jew”-ish RACIST, SUPREMACIST IDEOLOGY. It was during this same era that we had the orchestration of events that led up to WWI, and WWII, which enriched the Western International Central Bankers (predominantly “Jews”, YIDZ/KHAZARS) immensely, and assisted them toward their goal: SUPPOSEDLY A “HOMELAND” FOR THE “JEWS”(!) in Palestine. However, what the creation of Rothschild-Israel (est. 1948 in Palestine) REALLY was, was the establishment of a NATION-STATE totally in the hands of the predominantly “Jew”-ish Western International Central Bankers and their “Committee of 300″ “globalist” Allies and legions of ZIONIST, COMMUNIST, & FREEMASONIC minions, based primarily in the ‘City’ of London. How many WHITE, CAUCASIAN MEN & WOMEN, OF NW EUROPE & OF NW EUROPEAN DESCENT (INCLUDING AMERICAN SOLDIERS, AND GERMAN SOLDIERS AND CIVILIANS, WERE KILLED IN WWI AND WWII? Conservative estimate: 106 MILLION. Yet, the “Jews” constantly cry ALLIGATOR TEARS! over the vastly-exaggerated “6 MILLION” “Jews” reported (falsely) to have been “gassed” and “exterminated” in their nearly-completely fabricated HOLLOW HOAX! Zyklon-B was used to stop the spread of LICE & TYPHUS! (Read THE HOLOCAUST HOAX EXPOSED: DEBUNKING THE 20TH CENTURY’S BIGGEST LIE, by Victor Thorn, available for a mere $25 on Texe Marrs’ website! What a bargain. $25 for the TRUTH about the most massive hoax of the 20th Century!) It appears, that Hitler’s ~ ONLY ~ crime, was putting the “Jews” TO WORK! in the LABOR Camps, which supported the German War Effort ~ against the “Allies” ~ the U.K. (“Jew”K), U.S.A. (“Jew”SA) & France.

    #8 All the “liberal” causes are “Jew”-ish in origin. Primary among them: Political correctness. (Feminism is also a “Jew”-ish creation. Gloria Steinem, Betty Freidan, Barbara Spectre ~ “Jew”-esses. Gloria Steinem was backed by the CIA/CFR. “Jews” created the NAACP. Do your OWN investigation, and you’ll see. It was “Jews” behind Communism & Nelson Mandela.)

    #9 All of the following are part of the Western “elite” TECHNOCRATIC “Jew” (predominantly YIDDISH) World Order AGENDA: “Gun Control”, “Global Warming” – oops! – “Climate Change”, “War on Terror”, “War on Drugs”. 5G “INTERNET OF THINGS”! “Gun Control” is to dis-arm the masses of Americans to totally subjugate them to the Western “elite” “Jews”. “Climate Change” or “Global Warming” is the brain-child of the CLUB OF ROME, one of the FRONT ORGANIZATIONS of the “COMMITTEE OF 300″, the “CROWN CORPORATION” of the ‘City’ of London (Rothschilds/Rhodes’/Milner Roundtable Groups). The “War on Terror” is a pre-planned effort on the part of a) CENTRAL BANKING, b) BIG OIL, c) WEAPONS MANUFACTURERS, & d) CIA/MI6/MOSSAD & the PENTAGON ~ to wage a never-ending war, for profit & total control. The “War on Drugs” is equally a total sham, because the Western “elites” originally became so rich due to the BRITISH OPIUM TRADE WITH CHINA, under the British East India Company. The TOO-BIG-TO-FAIL BANKS, behind the BIS/IMF/World Bank/ECB/”Federal” “Reserve”/SWIFT Payment System (like HSBC, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs) ~ LAUNDER the proceeds! The 5G “Internet of Things” is for 24/7 surveillance and TOTAL CONTROL (which “they” term FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE). The House of Saud was placed in power by the ‘City’ of London & MI6. The “28 Pages” blaming SAUDi Arabia for 9/11 is clearly ‘the West’ throwing their PROXY, Saudi Arabia, under the bus, very conveniently, and completely ignoring the TRUTH, which is that the blame for 9/11 rests squarely with the CIA/MOSSAD. (ISRAEL IS NOTHING BUT A PROXY, JUST LIKE SAUDI ARABIA!) Who do you suppose is behind the OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES allowing the entry into the U.S., of CHEAP LABOR from Mexico? Why do you suppose they are constantly demonizing PUTIN, and Russia, as somehow having “hacked” the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election? RUSSIA is a RESOURCE-RICH country. Putin kicked out the “Gang of Eight” (“Jew”-ish BANKERS & Industrialists) who formerly controlled Russian Banking and Industry, such as GAZPROM. Putin nationalized these critical industries, returned their rightful ownership to the sovereign Russian people, and sent the Billionaire “Jews” either to jail, or running for their lives (in exile). How does SHILL-ary Clinton fit into all of this? Remember ~ MENA, ARKANSAS AIRPORT ~ mid-1980’s. Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas. G.H.W. Bush was Vice-President under Reagan. (G.H.W. Bush was also former Director of the CIA, and ~ CLEARLY ~ IMPLICATED IN THE JFK ASSASSINATION, of Nov. 22, 1963.) CIA Pilot, Barry Seal was transporting guns to the Contras in Nicaragua, from the MENA, ARKANSAS AIRPORT, and on the return flight, transporting COCAINE into the U.S., for distribution in American cities. All under the watch of G.H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton ~ the two primary lackeys of the CIA/CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), which answers to CHATHAM HOUSE formerly the Royal Institute for International Affairs (RIIA) in the ‘City’ of London(!) ~ all FRONT ORGANIZATIONS for the Western “elites” (“Jews”).

    #10 On Dec. 23, 1913, the so-called “Federal” “Reserve” Act was quietly passed through Congress while most in Congress had already gone home for Christmas. (“Jew”) Paul WARBURG, of the 16th Century Venetian “Del Banco” family is among the co-creators of the “Federal” “Reserve” (who met in secret on Jekyll Island, GA, in 1910). Wait a sec. What, exactly, is a descendant of a 16TH CENTURY (1500’s) Venetian “Del Banco” family doing co-creating the so-called “Federal” “Reserve” in ~ AMERICA ~ in 1913? !! Good question, eh? But wait ~ can the WARBURG family claim descent from the ancient Ibri, Iberi, Illyrians/Silurians (the TRUE, ORIGINAL JEWS) of ancient Britain? It is not merely enough, that VENICE or VENETIA is named after the original PHOENICIA. In other words, VENETIA either became home to the ORIGINAL PHOENICIANS from ancient BRITAIN (sometime between 1323 and 800 BC), or was simply named after ancient PHOENICIA. (These dates accord with Comyns Beaumont’s dating of the Cataclysm ~ 1323 BC ~ and the time when the Greek Poet Homer lived and wrote down the “myths” (oral history) of his ancient Greek ancestors ~ 800 BC.)

    #11 ~ 90% of those who call themselves “Jews”, today, are descended from YIDDISH-speaking people from Eastern Europe, who have ~ NOTHING ~ WHATSOEVER ~ to do with the ancient HOLY LAND of the Bible (neither in the FAUX holy land of ancient Palestine, nor in the ACTUAL, TRUE HOLY LAND: Old-Testament-era Ancient Britain!).

    #12 ~ How many Americans are aware of the now 1600(+) year DECEPTION of Roman Emperor Constantine, who transplanted the Old Testament events which occurred in what we today call Britain, into the land of Palestine? (Read the STUNNING! evidence of Comyns Beaumont in his books previously cited). (Also, read THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, by Arthur Koestler.) The TRUTH shall prevail.

    Still, Americans continue to rush headlong (somnambulently) over the cliff when all the info. they need is right there at their iPhone & iPad fingertips. When will we stop fighting all these wars for “Jew”-ish International Central Bankers and all their Allied “Globalists” & Legions of Libtard Minions? When will we print our UNITED STATES NOTES through the U.S. Treasury, and by-pass the so-called “Federal” “Reserve”? When will we STOP FUNDING THE TECHNOCRATIC “JEW” WORLD ORDER (NWO/JWO)? When will we return to the RULE OF LAW ~ the U.S. Constitution?

    PART II: Why is ALL of the foregoing SO IMPORTANT? (Just look at what “they” did in Russia, beginning in 1917!)

    1) “Give me control of a Nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.” — Mayer Amschel (Bauer) Rothschild, February 23, 1744 – September 19, 1812.

    2) Here are a few pertinent Jewish quotes about Jewish Supremacism:

    “We Jews regard our race as superior to all humanity, and look forward, not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph over them.” (Goldwin Smith, Jewish Professor of Modern History at Oxford University, October, 1981)

    “We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.” (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

    “We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).

    Source: 1001 Quotes By and About Jews: https://www.stormfront.org/posterity/13texan/q351-400.htm

    3) Dual Citizenship — Loyal to Whom?, by Dan Eden for View Zone: http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

    4) Zionists Are a Fifth Column in America: http://www.henrymakow.com/zionists_fifth_column_in_ameri.html

    5) “The Individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.” — J. Edgar Hoover (Former Director of the FBI, August, 1956, in “The Elks Magazine”)

    NOTE: J. EDGAR HOOVER USED THE WORD “CONSPIRACY” without using the word “THEORY”. BECAUSE ~ IT’S AN ACTUAL CONSPIRACY. JFK also used the word conspiracy, without attaching the word “theory”. There’s no “theory” here. It’s an ~ ACTUAL ~ CONSPIRACY!

    “For we are opposed, around the world, by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence; on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice; on guerillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed and not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined, its dissenters are silenced, not praised; no expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the cold war, in short, with a wartime discipline no democracy would ever hope to wish to match…” — President John F. Kennedy, in a speech before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, April 27, 1961. Source: https://archive.org/details/jfks19610427

    “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” — David Rockefeller, 1994, at the U.N.

    “History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance.” — James Madison, 4th U.S. President, 1809-1817.

    “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.” — Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President, 1801-1809.

    “Give me control of a Nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.” — Mayer Amschel (Bauer) Rothschild, February 23, 1744 – September 19, 1812.

    “A nation of laws, and not of men.” — John Adams, 2nd U.S. President, 1797-1801

    Facts are facts. For a better understanding of how this claim of “Anti-Semitism” works to silence all critics of “Jews” and therefore of International Central Bankers, as well as critics of the so-called “Holocaust” ~ watch this:

    DEFAMATION, a film, by Yoav Shamir

    https://archive.org/details/YoavShamirsDefamation

    https://archive.org/details/Defamation

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    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.
     

     
    hmmm

    A few months ago Peter Slen talked with author Michael Korda about his latest book, Alone, about the British at Dunkirk.
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?429194-4/alone

    Korda claims that Germany lost the war at Dunkirk: many British leaders were willing and eager to negotiate a peace with Germany, as the Belgians and French had done. But when the Germans failed or declined to finish off the British, and the British people, the Little People, in their little boats, were able to save their entire army, the British were invigorated, and emboldened. They didn't need no stinkin' peace; they bloody well could heath the Hun.
    Churchill seized that moment and war spirit. Peace was brushed off the table.

    At the end of the conversation, Korda said that Chamberlain was not the umbrella-toting sop he is frequently pictured to have been; he was tough and cold and conniving. He knew -- but could not disclose -- that the British wanted war but that the planes would not be ready until 1940, so "he bought time . . . It's not nice, but the price of that time was Czechoslovakia . . . it's not nice, it's real politick."

    So either Korda is blowing smoke, or Chamberlain played out his deceptive real politick mode in his conversation with Kennedy.

    --
    PS Interesting that British Gen. Alexander was the last Brit military leader out of Dunkirk, and also the British general who oversaw the obliteration of Monte Cassino -- a wanton act of culturecide. Had Hitler creamed the British at Dunkirk, millions of lives could have been spared.

    … Korda said that Chamberlain was not the umbrella-toting sop he is frequently pictured to have been; he was tough and cold and conniving.

    Oh, I have no doubt about it.

    So either Korda is blowing smoke, or Chamberlain played out his deceptive real politick mode in his conversation with Kennedy.

    It’s not out of the question that both aspects of Chamberlain are true, that he was an idealist one day and a prick the next, but he very likely saw the blood that was going to be spilled as a result of the role he seemed (in Kennedy’s description) to have been traped into playing.

    For me, Hoover’s description about the behind the scene American pressure on Poland and England to play their roles in starting the war seems extremely important and very revealing in explaining the declarations of war which were then triggered. The fact that the Soviet Union delayed their attack on Poland until France and England had declared war on Germany makes it almost indisputable that they, England and France and thus the US had all coordinated their actions ahead of time. For why would Russia wait a couple of days to invade ? And why invade Poland with the risk of having France and England declare war on them also, unless that was all agreed to ahead of time?

    BTW, none of this coordination contradicts Sovolov’s theory that Stalin planned, behind everyone’s back, to let France and England fight Germany and then invade all of Europe afterward.

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    interesting bit of trivia:

    As Benjamin Ginsberg detailed in "How the Jews Defeated Hitler," Jews allied with East Coast Protestants (WASPs) in their campaign to involve USA in WWII, and in waging the war. Ginsberg relates the extensive involvement of Jews in anti-German propaganda.

    He may have mentioned this book (or I tripped upon it elsewhere);

    The German Reich and Americans of German Origin (1938)
    by Charles C., Et Al, Sponsors Burlingham (Author)

    It's a compilation of articles that Germans in USA published in US venues, that indicated pride in German-ness and supported National Socialism. The items were reproduced in the original German, accompanied by English translation.
    The purpose of the slim volume was to impugn the loyalty of German-Americans, as suggested by the epigraph:


    "We can have no "fifty-fifty" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all. We are akin by blood and descent to most of the nations of Europe; but we are separate from all of them; we are a new and distinct nation."
    -Theodore Roosevelt
    1917
     
    These lines are from he Preface:

    "The excerpts in this book are derived from various sources and are the utterances of many persons, but all preach a single idea: that a person of German descent is always a German and belongs to Germany.
    The likelihood that this form of foreign propaganda will become a danger is remote, yet it is desirable to inform the American public of the attitude of the German government toward American institutions and particularly toward American principles of citizenship. . . . "
     
    The slender volume was "sponsored" by 14 big names from Wall Street, NYCity white-shoe law firms, Henry L. Stimson, and Jewish leadership -- Felix Frankfurter, Nathan Straus, Monty Lemann, Alfred E Cohn.

    Just by coincidence, in 1935, Vladimir Jabotinsky told "several thousand youth" assembled at the Revisionist Zionist congress in Vienna that :


    "Revisionist Zionism . . .will seek not only to build Palestine, but to liquidate the Diaspora. Declaring that the aim of the organization is “the high Zionism,” he explained that the “high Zionism” does not mean the solution of the Diaspora problem by the mere creation of a model state in Palestine, but by the liquidation of the Diaspora with a return of the Jews to their homeland.
    The Jewish State, he declared, is not the end but only the first step, the second being the return of the people, which will be the solution of the Jewish problem.
    The third step, he said, will be the final one and will aim at the creation of a national center of culture, radiating its influence all over the world."

     
    In other words, a person of Jewish descent is always a Jew and not only belongs to Israel but in Israel.

    The intriguing trivia:

    I bought a copy of the book for $0.35 +S&H.
    Another, too-rich-for-my-blood copy was offered for $36.95; it was from William C. Bullitt's library ---


    Collectible - Very Good
    Oxford U.P., New York, NY, 1938.Edition: 1st Edition 1st Printing.Binding: Hard Cover. Condition: VG-.. . . No ink names, bookplates, etc. Text in Fine Almost New condition. From the library of William C. Bullitt with his card pasted to front endpaper. Bullitt was first U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union & also Ambassador to France, as well an non-fiction author. Illustrations in German, Text in English.
     

    Very interestnig, Solon!

    Juat like today’s calls for binging in migrants into Europe and the US, those 1938 calls for assimilation apply to all nations, … except for n=1 ! It’s taken as a given that it is so.

    Teddy Roosevelt’s calls for immigrants to assimilate had the added advantage scrubbing clear collective memories, so much better to implant new myths in them !

    Interesting also the tidbit about the original owner of your copy of the book. I doubt he ever read it but if he ever did, it would be intersting to ses if he underlined anything in it. (I love this about him from wikipedia: “Margaret MacMillan describes both Bullitt and Steffens as “useful idiots” having been swindled by Lenin into Western abandonment of the White Russian factions.” She was probably too kind in regards to their moral culpabilities)

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    This tidbit find from the Mosquito is also startling !

    Hoover documents his conversations with US Ambassador to Britain, Joseph Kennedy, during the run-up to the war. Hoover met with Kennedy in May, 1945. According to Kennedy:

    …Roosevelt and Bullitt were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles.


    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

    Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this most gigantic blunder in history.
     
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/03/bionic-mosquito/how-did-ww2-start/

    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

    hmmm

    A few months ago Peter Slen talked with author Michael Korda about his latest book, Alone, about the British at Dunkirk.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?429194-4/alone

    Korda claims that Germany lost the war at Dunkirk: many British leaders were willing and eager to negotiate a peace with Germany, as the Belgians and French had done. But when the Germans failed or declined to finish off the British, and the British people, the Little People, in their little boats, were able to save their entire army, the British were invigorated, and emboldened. They didn’t need no stinkin’ peace; they bloody well could heath the Hun.
    Churchill seized that moment and war spirit. Peace was brushed off the table.

    At the end of the conversation, Korda said that Chamberlain was not the umbrella-toting sop he is frequently pictured to have been; he was tough and cold and conniving. He knew — but could not disclose — that the British wanted war but that the planes would not be ready until 1940, so “he bought time . . . It’s not nice, but the price of that time was Czechoslovakia . . . it’s not nice, it’s real politick.”

    So either Korda is blowing smoke, or Chamberlain played out his deceptive real politick mode in his conversation with Kennedy.


    PS Interesting that British Gen. Alexander was the last Brit military leader out of Dunkirk, and also the British general who oversaw the obliteration of Monte Cassino — a wanton act of culturecide. Had Hitler creamed the British at Dunkirk, millions of lives could have been spared.

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    ... Korda said that Chamberlain was not the umbrella-toting sop he is frequently pictured to have been; he was tough and cold and conniving.
     
    Oh, I have no doubt about it.

    So either Korda is blowing smoke, or Chamberlain played out his deceptive real politick mode in his conversation with Kennedy.
     
    It's not out of the question that both aspects of Chamberlain are true, that he was an idealist one day and a prick the next, but he very likely saw the blood that was going to be spilled as a result of the role he seemed (in Kennedy's description) to have been traped into playing.

    For me, Hoover's description about the behind the scene American pressure on Poland and England to play their roles in starting the war seems extremely important and very revealing in explaining the declarations of war which were then triggered. The fact that the Soviet Union delayed their attack on Poland until France and England had declared war on Germany makes it almost indisputable that they, England and France and thus the US had all coordinated their actions ahead of time. For why would Russia wait a couple of days to invade ? And why invade Poland with the risk of having France and England declare war on them also, unless that was all agreed to ahead of time?

    BTW, none of this coordination contradicts Sovolov's theory that Stalin planned, behind everyone's back, to let France and England fight Germany and then invade all of Europe afterward.
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  • @chris
    This tidbit find from the Mosquito is also startling !

    Hoover documents his conversations with US Ambassador to Britain, Joseph Kennedy, during the run-up to the war. Hoover met with Kennedy in May, 1945. According to Kennedy:

    …Roosevelt and Bullitt were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles.


    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

    Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this most gigantic blunder in history.
     
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/03/bionic-mosquito/how-did-ww2-start/

    interesting bit of trivia:

    As Benjamin Ginsberg detailed in “How the Jews Defeated Hitler,” Jews allied with East Coast Protestants (WASPs) in their campaign to involve USA in WWII, and in waging the war. Ginsberg relates the extensive involvement of Jews in anti-German propaganda.

    He may have mentioned this book (or I tripped upon it elsewhere);

    The German Reich and Americans of German Origin (1938)
    by Charles C., Et Al, Sponsors Burlingham (Author)

    It’s a compilation of articles that Germans in USA published in US venues, that indicated pride in German-ness and supported National Socialism. The items were reproduced in the original German, accompanied by English translation.
    The purpose of the slim volume was to impugn the loyalty of German-Americans, as suggested by the epigraph:

    “We can have no “fifty-fifty” allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all. We are akin by blood and descent to most of the nations of Europe; but we are separate from all of them; we are a new and distinct nation.”
    -Theodore Roosevelt
    1917

    These lines are from he Preface:

    “The excerpts in this book are derived from various sources and are the utterances of many persons, but all preach a single idea: that a person of German descent is always a German and belongs to Germany.
    The likelihood that this form of foreign propaganda will become a danger is remote, yet it is desirable to inform the American public of the attitude of the German government toward American institutions and particularly toward American principles of citizenship. . . . “

    The slender volume was “sponsored” by 14 big names from Wall Street, NYCity white-shoe law firms, Henry L. Stimson, and Jewish leadership — Felix Frankfurter, Nathan Straus, Monty Lemann, Alfred E Cohn.

    Just by coincidence, in 1935, Vladimir Jabotinsky told “several thousand youth” assembled at the Revisionist Zionist congress in Vienna that :

    “Revisionist Zionism . . .will seek not only to build Palestine, but to liquidate the Diaspora. Declaring that the aim of the organization is “the high Zionism,” he explained that the “high Zionism” does not mean the solution of the Diaspora problem by the mere creation of a model state in Palestine, but by the liquidation of the Diaspora with a return of the Jews to their homeland.
    The Jewish State, he declared, is not the end but only the first step, the second being the return of the people, which will be the solution of the Jewish problem.
    The third step, he said, will be the final one and will aim at the creation of a national center of culture, radiating its influence all over the world.”

    In other words, a person of Jewish descent is always a Jew and not only belongs to Israel but in Israel.

    The intriguing trivia:

    I bought a copy of the book for $0.35 +S&H.
    Another, too-rich-for-my-blood copy was offered for $36.95; it was from William C. Bullitt’s library —

    Collectible – Very Good
    Oxford U.P., New York, NY, 1938.Edition: 1st Edition 1st Printing.Binding: Hard Cover. Condition: VG-.. . . No ink names, bookplates, etc. Text in Fine Almost New condition. From the library of William C. Bullitt with his card pasted to front endpaper. Bullitt was first U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union & also Ambassador to France, as well an non-fiction author. Illustrations in German, Text in English.

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    Very interestnig, Solon!

    Juat like today's calls for binging in migrants into Europe and the US, those 1938 calls for assimilation apply to all nations, ... except for n=1 ! It's taken as a given that it is so.

    Teddy Roosevelt's calls for immigrants to assimilate had the added advantage scrubbing clear collective memories, so much better to implant new myths in them !

    Interesting also the tidbit about the original owner of your copy of the book. I doubt he ever read it but if he ever did, it would be intersting to ses if he underlined anything in it. (I love this about him from wikipedia: "Margaret MacMillan describes both Bullitt and Steffens as "useful idiots" having been swindled by Lenin into Western abandonment of the White Russian factions." She was probably too kind in regards to their moral culpabilities)
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  • @SolontoCroesus
    thanks for the link & recommendation.

    By way of bionic mosquito, came upon Mark Solonin's website
    http://www.solonin.org/en/biography

    Solonin on Suvorov: (Comrade Stalin's Three Plans http://www.solonin.org/en/article_comrade-stalins-three-plans )


    Twenty years ago Viktor Suvorov gave a detailed answer to this question. He assumed – and supported his assumption with the open Soviet publications that were at his disposal – that Stalin was preparing for war. He was always preparing, from the very first day he gained power. Collectivization, industrialization, the Great Terror –those were just difference faces of Comrade Stalin’s multifaceted work towards turning the Country of the Soviets into a gigantic military camp and dividing the builders of communism into two categories: the workforce and the cannon fodder. In August, 1939 Stalin made a final decision to support Hitler, to support him the same way in which the noose supports the hanged man. Stalin helped Hitler to start the war against the coalition of Western countries (Great Britain, France, and their allies) in order that the exterminatory struggle would destroy Europe and allow Stalin’s armies to march over its ashes in triumph. In June, 1941 the preparations for this march were interrupted by the invasion by the Wehrmacht, a surprise for a Stalin who was blinded by his delusions of grandeur.
     
    PS re "The Germans were morally right," maybe yes maybe no. Imo the Germans were royally used, by FDR & his zionist handlers, to establish US hegemony under directorship of zionists in USA, w/ hideout in Palestine.

    This tidbit find from the Mosquito is also startling !

    Hoover documents his conversations with US Ambassador to Britain, Joseph Kennedy, during the run-up to the war. Hoover met with Kennedy in May, 1945. According to Kennedy:

    …Roosevelt and Bullitt were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles.

    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

    Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this most gigantic blunder in history.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/03/bionic-mosquito/how-did-ww2-start/

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    interesting bit of trivia:

    As Benjamin Ginsberg detailed in "How the Jews Defeated Hitler," Jews allied with East Coast Protestants (WASPs) in their campaign to involve USA in WWII, and in waging the war. Ginsberg relates the extensive involvement of Jews in anti-German propaganda.

    He may have mentioned this book (or I tripped upon it elsewhere);

    The German Reich and Americans of German Origin (1938)
    by Charles C., Et Al, Sponsors Burlingham (Author)

    It's a compilation of articles that Germans in USA published in US venues, that indicated pride in German-ness and supported National Socialism. The items were reproduced in the original German, accompanied by English translation.
    The purpose of the slim volume was to impugn the loyalty of German-Americans, as suggested by the epigraph:


    "We can have no "fifty-fifty" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all. We are akin by blood and descent to most of the nations of Europe; but we are separate from all of them; we are a new and distinct nation."
    -Theodore Roosevelt
    1917
     
    These lines are from he Preface:

    "The excerpts in this book are derived from various sources and are the utterances of many persons, but all preach a single idea: that a person of German descent is always a German and belongs to Germany.
    The likelihood that this form of foreign propaganda will become a danger is remote, yet it is desirable to inform the American public of the attitude of the German government toward American institutions and particularly toward American principles of citizenship. . . . "
     
    The slender volume was "sponsored" by 14 big names from Wall Street, NYCity white-shoe law firms, Henry L. Stimson, and Jewish leadership -- Felix Frankfurter, Nathan Straus, Monty Lemann, Alfred E Cohn.

    Just by coincidence, in 1935, Vladimir Jabotinsky told "several thousand youth" assembled at the Revisionist Zionist congress in Vienna that :


    "Revisionist Zionism . . .will seek not only to build Palestine, but to liquidate the Diaspora. Declaring that the aim of the organization is “the high Zionism,” he explained that the “high Zionism” does not mean the solution of the Diaspora problem by the mere creation of a model state in Palestine, but by the liquidation of the Diaspora with a return of the Jews to their homeland.
    The Jewish State, he declared, is not the end but only the first step, the second being the return of the people, which will be the solution of the Jewish problem.
    The third step, he said, will be the final one and will aim at the creation of a national center of culture, radiating its influence all over the world."

     
    In other words, a person of Jewish descent is always a Jew and not only belongs to Israel but in Israel.

    The intriguing trivia:

    I bought a copy of the book for $0.35 +S&H.
    Another, too-rich-for-my-blood copy was offered for $36.95; it was from William C. Bullitt's library ---


    Collectible - Very Good
    Oxford U.P., New York, NY, 1938.Edition: 1st Edition 1st Printing.Binding: Hard Cover. Condition: VG-.. . . No ink names, bookplates, etc. Text in Fine Almost New condition. From the library of William C. Bullitt with his card pasted to front endpaper. Bullitt was first U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union & also Ambassador to France, as well an non-fiction author. Illustrations in German, Text in English.
     
    , @SolontoCroesus


    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.
     

     
    hmmm

    A few months ago Peter Slen talked with author Michael Korda about his latest book, Alone, about the British at Dunkirk.
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?429194-4/alone

    Korda claims that Germany lost the war at Dunkirk: many British leaders were willing and eager to negotiate a peace with Germany, as the Belgians and French had done. But when the Germans failed or declined to finish off the British, and the British people, the Little People, in their little boats, were able to save their entire army, the British were invigorated, and emboldened. They didn't need no stinkin' peace; they bloody well could heath the Hun.
    Churchill seized that moment and war spirit. Peace was brushed off the table.

    At the end of the conversation, Korda said that Chamberlain was not the umbrella-toting sop he is frequently pictured to have been; he was tough and cold and conniving. He knew -- but could not disclose -- that the British wanted war but that the planes would not be ready until 1940, so "he bought time . . . It's not nice, but the price of that time was Czechoslovakia . . . it's not nice, it's real politick."

    So either Korda is blowing smoke, or Chamberlain played out his deceptive real politick mode in his conversation with Kennedy.

    --
    PS Interesting that British Gen. Alexander was the last Brit military leader out of Dunkirk, and also the British general who oversaw the obliteration of Monte Cassino -- a wanton act of culturecide. Had Hitler creamed the British at Dunkirk, millions of lives could have been spared.

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  • @jacques sheete

    Here is someone who discussed the book very eloquently.

    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.de/search?q=culprit

    I’m going back to reading these articles myself now.
     
    Yeh, that mosquito guy is damned good! He knows how to write, too.

    thanks for the link & recommendation.

    By way of bionic mosquito, came upon Mark Solonin’s website

    http://www.solonin.org/en/biography

    Solonin on Suvorov: (Comrade Stalin’s Three Plans http://www.solonin.org/en/article_comrade-stalins-three-plans )

    Twenty years ago Viktor Suvorov gave a detailed answer to this question. He assumed – and supported his assumption with the open Soviet publications that were at his disposal – that Stalin was preparing for war. He was always preparing, from the very first day he gained power. Collectivization, industrialization, the Great Terror –those were just difference faces of Comrade Stalin’s multifaceted work towards turning the Country of the Soviets into a gigantic military camp and dividing the builders of communism into two categories: the workforce and the cannon fodder. In August, 1939 Stalin made a final decision to support Hitler, to support him the same way in which the noose supports the hanged man. Stalin helped Hitler to start the war against the coalition of Western countries (Great Britain, France, and their allies) in order that the exterminatory struggle would destroy Europe and allow Stalin’s armies to march over its ashes in triumph. In June, 1941 the preparations for this march were interrupted by the invasion by the Wehrmacht, a surprise for a Stalin who was blinded by his delusions of grandeur.

    PS re “The Germans were morally right,” maybe yes maybe no. Imo the Germans were royally used, by FDR & his zionist handlers, to establish US hegemony under directorship of zionists in USA, w/ hideout in Palestine.

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    This tidbit find from the Mosquito is also startling !

    Hoover documents his conversations with US Ambassador to Britain, Joseph Kennedy, during the run-up to the war. Hoover met with Kennedy in May, 1945. According to Kennedy:

    …Roosevelt and Bullitt were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles.


    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

    Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this most gigantic blunder in history.
     
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/03/bionic-mosquito/how-did-ww2-start/
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  • @chris
    Hi Chuck,

    Here is someone who discussed the book very eloquently.
    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.de/search?q=culprit

    I'm going back to reading these articles myself now.

    Here is someone who discussed the book very eloquently.

    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.de/search?q=culprit

    I’m going back to reading these articles myself now.

    Yeh, that mosquito guy is damned good! He knows how to write, too.

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    thanks for the link & recommendation.

    By way of bionic mosquito, came upon Mark Solonin's website
    http://www.solonin.org/en/biography

    Solonin on Suvorov: (Comrade Stalin's Three Plans http://www.solonin.org/en/article_comrade-stalins-three-plans )


    Twenty years ago Viktor Suvorov gave a detailed answer to this question. He assumed – and supported his assumption with the open Soviet publications that were at his disposal – that Stalin was preparing for war. He was always preparing, from the very first day he gained power. Collectivization, industrialization, the Great Terror –those were just difference faces of Comrade Stalin’s multifaceted work towards turning the Country of the Soviets into a gigantic military camp and dividing the builders of communism into two categories: the workforce and the cannon fodder. In August, 1939 Stalin made a final decision to support Hitler, to support him the same way in which the noose supports the hanged man. Stalin helped Hitler to start the war against the coalition of Western countries (Great Britain, France, and their allies) in order that the exterminatory struggle would destroy Europe and allow Stalin’s armies to march over its ashes in triumph. In June, 1941 the preparations for this march were interrupted by the invasion by the Wehrmacht, a surprise for a Stalin who was blinded by his delusions of grandeur.
     
    PS re "The Germans were morally right," maybe yes maybe no. Imo the Germans were royally used, by FDR & his zionist handlers, to establish US hegemony under directorship of zionists in USA, w/ hideout in Palestine.
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Chris,

    I respect how you think.

    By chance, have you read Suvorov's military detailed history book, "The Chief Culprit"?

    Politely and respectfully, I have asked SolontoCroesus to offer comment about the "meat & potato" in Suvorov's unorthodox work but he has not done so.

    According to author Suvorov, Josef Stalin had awesome means & plans for a Soviet military invasion and conquest of western Europe. Of course, Hitler beat Stalin to the "punch" though, and the Germans went on what became doomed offense.

    The "Chief Culprit" provides a WW II history that the victors want vanquished. Thanks very much, Chris.

    By chance, have you read Suvorov’s military detailed history book, “The Chief Culprit”?

    I’ve read it and recommend it highly. Lots of good stuff there.

    Here’s another

    As late as 1958, then, Taylor clung as tenaciously as before to his Germanophobic line… [then]’ A.J.P. Taylor began to investigate the documents, and as he did so, he began to realize the truth. The power of the truth, and his courageous recognition of the truth swept away all of his own biases and preconceptions

    … the Germans were morally right…

    -Murray N. Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, by A.J .P. Taylor, (London: Hamish Hamilton, 1961 — now New York: Athenaeum, 1962).
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/03/murray-n-rothbard/origins-2nd-world-war/

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  • @Rurik (from another location)

    the Big Jews have major financial correction on their mind (within years) – and they do not want a Jew to take responsibility for the crash
     
    the bubble will pop

    they have stocks trading at prices exponentially inflated over the value of these companies

    it is madness what's going on with the market, and the correction will come, it's just a matter of when


    The result will be that they will take private ownership of many mega large US corporations.
     
    and why not?

    they did it with the Great Depression, (the Bernank admitted this), and they did it with the 2008 crash, and the solution our government decided upon was to give the swindlers responsible hundreds of billions of dollars in bailouts. The Fed is still buying their toxic debts from all those CDSs, synthetic derivatives and sub-prime liar loans. It was an orgy of greed and the greatest theft of wealth in history. And it went from the working and middle class, from the pensioners and public pensions, all into the pocket of the .01% and their assorted congressional and media whores.

    If it worked that well last time, then why on earth wouldn't they do it all again?

    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

    TJ (and others like Ron Paul and Ayn Rand) tried to warn us

    Peace

    The result will be that they will take private ownership of many mega large US corporations.

    So true.

    That’s what was behind Teddy Roosevelt’s “trust busting” too. Only certain trusts were targeted and guess which ones went Scot free.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Hey Jacques!

    Wherefore art thou? Are you away "on business" like the Trumps and The Maven Shama?

    Just joshing, but as I know you like a good (gallows) laugh every now & then, please listen to the catchy DEBT-tune (linked below), "God's away on business," written & performed by my favorite singer / songwriter, Tom Waits?

    https://youtu.be/YbAeeNgXSzk

    Selah The Ship is Sinking The Ship is Sinking!

    I’ve been occupied. Just saw tonight that this thread is still going. I’ll see what I have to add.

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  • When they get us involved in their unnecessary and failed wars, as the Saudis, Emiratis, and others have done in Yemen, reevaluating the merits of the client relationship is long overdue.

    That’s why they should be referred to as The American Cuckservative.

    A more accurate concluding paragraph would’ve been:

    When they get us involved in their unnecessary and failed wars, as The Lobby and Israelis have done in MENA, reevaluating the merits of the client relationship is long overdue.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    SolontoCroesus,

    I hoped that you would not bother responding to Judah Ben iffen-iffen because the joke is on him and his head is up The Maven Shama's ass. He doesn't even know he's alive and called to enhanced awareness.

    Otherwise, among my favorite films is "The Leopard" with Burt Lancaster and I liked Sophia Loren' s (hubba-hubba) looks, and Bob Dylan's album covering Frank Sinatra songs.

    Polish background, for me, I have poetry written by Czeslaw Miloscz, the classic book "Quo Vadis," kielbasa, The Black Madonna, and (traditional) polka music played by Stanky and The Coal Miners.

    I don't like how Poland bought into letting ZUSA / NATO stage anti-ballistic missiles on their soil in order to defend against Iranian nukes that did not exist. (SIGH) Helped proliferate dumb Polock jokes though.

    Thanks again for your work!

    Don’t worry Woodchuck, I’m not trying to steal your beau; I’m not that kind of iffen. You go ahead with no daylight between you and S2C; you can be Ernst. Don’t worry about those Polock jokes, it’s the Polack ones that sting. Of course, only if one is Polish.

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    Thank you, iffen, for reading my material so carefully.
    I'm flattered.
    God not only has a sense of humor but also uses unworthy instruments to educate the ignorant and even those with a head and heart of stone.

    I am your reed, sweet shepherd, glad to be
    Now if you will, breathe out your joy in me
    And make bright songs
    or fill me with the soft moan of your love
    When your delight has failed
    To call or move your flock from wrong

    Make children songs or any song to fill
    Your reed with breath of life
    But at your will
    Lay down the flute and take repose
    While music infinite
    Is silence in your heart
    And laid on it your reed is mute

    SolontoCroesus,

    I hoped that you would not bother responding to Judah Ben iffen-iffen because the joke is on him and his head is up The Maven Shama’s ass. He doesn’t even know he’s alive and called to enhanced awareness.

    Otherwise, among my favorite films is “The Leopard” with Burt Lancaster and I liked Sophia Loren’ s (hubba-hubba) looks, and Bob Dylan’s album covering Frank Sinatra songs.

    Polish background, for me, I have poetry written by Czeslaw Miloscz, the classic book “Quo Vadis,” kielbasa, The Black Madonna, and (traditional) polka music played by Stanky and The Coal Miners.

    I don’t like how Poland bought into letting ZUSA / NATO stage anti-ballistic missiles on their soil in order to defend against Iranian nukes that did not exist. (SIGH) Helped proliferate dumb Polock jokes though.

    Thanks again for your work!

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    Don't worry Woodchuck, I'm not trying to steal your beau; I'm not that kind of iffen. You go ahead with no daylight between you and S2C; you can be Ernst. Don't worry about those Polock jokes, it's the Polack ones that sting. Of course, only if one is Polish.
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  • Daniel Larison at The American Conservative

    There Should Always Be ‘Daylight’ Between the U.S. and Our Clients

    U.S. foreign policy under the Trump administration has often seemed erratic or confused, but Trump has consistently eliminated any public differences with a handful of client states in a bid to have “no daylight” with them. In some cases, the vow to make sure there is “no daylight” between the U.S. and the other government has been explicit, and in others it can be recognized by the total identification of the U.S. with the policies of the other government. Conflating U.S. interests with the interests of clients is not new, but it is still remarkable how completely Trump has tried to blur American interests with Israeli and Saudi ones in particular since taking office.

    The danger in avoiding “daylight” with these clients isn’t just that it forces the U.S. to act against its interests, but that it risks dragging the U.S. into wars with their enemies to satisfy “allies” that are not really allies at all.

    When they get us involved in their unnecessary and failed wars, as the Saudis, Emiratis, and others have done in Yemen, reevaluating the merits of the client relationship is long overdue.

    The article is illustrated with a picture of Trump and Bibi.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/there-should-always-be-daylight-between-the-u-s-and-our-clients/

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  • @iffen
    the “DPs” — Displaced Persons — from Hungary wearing stocking caps on their heads after being treated for lice, and lining up to have my scalp examined for lice.

    Lucky for you that you were subjected to the American de-lousing model rather than the Nazi one.

    And people claim God doesn't have a sense of humor.

    Thank you, iffen, for reading my material so carefully.
    I’m flattered.
    God not only has a sense of humor but also uses unworthy instruments to educate the ignorant and even those with a head and heart of stone.

    I am your reed, sweet shepherd, glad to be
    Now if you will, breathe out your joy in me
    And make bright songs
    or fill me with the soft moan of your love
    When your delight has failed
    To call or move your flock from wrong

    Make children songs or any song to fill
    Your reed with breath of life
    But at your will
    Lay down the flute and take repose
    While music infinite
    Is silence in your heart
    And laid on it your reed is mute

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    SolontoCroesus,

    I hoped that you would not bother responding to Judah Ben iffen-iffen because the joke is on him and his head is up The Maven Shama's ass. He doesn't even know he's alive and called to enhanced awareness.

    Otherwise, among my favorite films is "The Leopard" with Burt Lancaster and I liked Sophia Loren' s (hubba-hubba) looks, and Bob Dylan's album covering Frank Sinatra songs.

    Polish background, for me, I have poetry written by Czeslaw Miloscz, the classic book "Quo Vadis," kielbasa, The Black Madonna, and (traditional) polka music played by Stanky and The Coal Miners.

    I don't like how Poland bought into letting ZUSA / NATO stage anti-ballistic missiles on their soil in order to defend against Iranian nukes that did not exist. (SIGH) Helped proliferate dumb Polock jokes though.

    Thanks again for your work!
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  • @chris
    Hi Chuck,

    Here is someone who discussed the book very eloquently.
    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.de/search?q=culprit

    I'm going back to reading these articles myself now.

    Thank you very much for such find, Chris!

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    SolontoCroesus,

    I am 65 and I can relate to your beautiful history and beloved family.

    Often obsessive, I desired for someone like you to make comment on "The Chief Culprit."

    Alas, in the same anxious vein, I made comment on a Saker U.R. article that vanished.

    My use of the "meat & potato" metaphor was as empty as an old POTUS candidate debate question, "Where's the beef?"

    Suvorov's "Chief Culprit" is not for the average (predisposed) WW II history student. Loaded with comparative detail; i.e., comparison of opposing forces tanks, heavy bombers, et al.

    Finally, I (think?) am aware that both Italian and Spanish (Catholic) falange were unsettled by the German National Socialist party ideals. Spaniard author Jose Maria Gironella wrote a great (fiction) trilogy on the great battle that became the Spanish Civil War.

    Mr. Gironella mentioned that Franco requested German bombing of Guernica. The 1st ever bombing of a civilian population.

    I digress, must drive school bus, S2C. No need for apology, we are brothers of concience.

    Hi Chuck,

    Here is someone who discussed the book very eloquently.

    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.de/search?q=culprit

    I’m going back to reading these articles myself now.

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    Thank you very much for such find, Chris!
    , @jacques sheete

    Here is someone who discussed the book very eloquently.

    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.de/search?q=culprit

    I’m going back to reading these articles myself now.
     
    Yeh, that mosquito guy is damned good! He knows how to write, too.
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  • @SolontoCroesus
    Apologies, ChuckOrloski.

    You know I love you, man, and support your efforts.

    I'm just a little guy with a keyboard and access to some very good libraries. I do what I can. I also have to pay the bills. I have heard of Suvarov, I think I've read- or youtubed his central arguments -- they seemed plausible to me, but I know that several regulars on UF criticize him strenuously. I wonder if The Saker has ever opined on Suvarov.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "meat and potatoes" re Suvarov and Poland.

    My own history is really weird: Mother came here from Italy to escape Mussolini, lost her family home and farm in the process. Dad's family from the same village in Italy but Dad was born in USA; he was injured while fighting the Italians in Sept. 1943 (just before Italy shifted from Axis to Allies). None of my grandparents spoke English, but it didn't really matter because I never knew them. We lived in a Polish parish (in an Irish diocese -- pre-diversity diversity) where I went to school; the nuns were from Poland: as you know, the intelligentsia in Poland were killed; my teachers/ nuns had been trained as housekeepers; they could barely speak English: I learned prayers in Polish before I learned ABCs. Being a poor neighborhood w/ a Slavic base, Hungarian refugees moved into our neighborhood and attended my church/school. Like many of my -- our -- generation, I remember ducking under desks, but I also remember the "DPs" -- Displaced Persons -- from Hungary wearing stocking caps on their heads after being treated for lice, and lining up to have my scalp examined for lice.

    I'm refining my obsession with WWII: I want to know what my parents's lives were like; I want to know what Italy was like before the war, during the war and after the war. I want to know what it was like for my grandparents to be Italian immigrants in an America that did not trust them, and what it was like for my Father to return, injured & disabled, from a war to an America that still hated Italians. I want to know the character of the soil in which my roots grew. I'm not that interested in Poland, Chuck; sorry.

    the “DPs” — Displaced Persons — from Hungary wearing stocking caps on their heads after being treated for lice, and lining up to have my scalp examined for lice.

    Lucky for you that you were subjected to the American de-lousing model rather than the Nazi one.

    And people claim God doesn’t have a sense of humor.

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    Thank you, iffen, for reading my material so carefully.
    I'm flattered.
    God not only has a sense of humor but also uses unworthy instruments to educate the ignorant and even those with a head and heart of stone.

    I am your reed, sweet shepherd, glad to be
    Now if you will, breathe out your joy in me
    And make bright songs
    or fill me with the soft moan of your love
    When your delight has failed
    To call or move your flock from wrong

    Make children songs or any song to fill
    Your reed with breath of life
    But at your will
    Lay down the flute and take repose
    While music infinite
    Is silence in your heart
    And laid on it your reed is mute
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  • SolontoCroesus,

    I am 65 and I can relate to your beautiful history and beloved family.

    Often obsessive, I desired for someone like you to make comment on “The Chief Culprit.”

    Alas, in the same anxious vein, I made comment on a Saker U.R. article that vanished.

    My use of the “meat & potato” metaphor was as empty as an old POTUS candidate debate question, “Where’s the beef?”

    Suvorov’s “Chief Culprit” is not for the average (predisposed) WW II history student. Loaded with comparative detail; i.e., comparison of opposing forces tanks, heavy bombers, et al.

    Finally, I (think?) am aware that both Italian and Spanish (Catholic) falange were unsettled by the German National Socialist party ideals. Spaniard author Jose Maria Gironella wrote a great (fiction) trilogy on the great battle that became the Spanish Civil War.

    Mr. Gironella mentioned that Franco requested German bombing of Guernica. The 1st ever bombing of a civilian population.

    I digress, must drive school bus, S2C. No need for apology, we are brothers of concience.

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    • Replies: @chris
    Hi Chuck,

    Here is someone who discussed the book very eloquently.
    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.de/search?q=culprit

    I'm going back to reading these articles myself now.
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Chris,

    I respect how you think.

    By chance, have you read Suvorov's military detailed history book, "The Chief Culprit"?

    Politely and respectfully, I have asked SolontoCroesus to offer comment about the "meat & potato" in Suvorov's unorthodox work but he has not done so.

    According to author Suvorov, Josef Stalin had awesome means & plans for a Soviet military invasion and conquest of western Europe. Of course, Hitler beat Stalin to the "punch" though, and the Germans went on what became doomed offense.

    The "Chief Culprit" provides a WW II history that the victors want vanquished. Thanks very much, Chris.

    Apologies, ChuckOrloski.

    You know I love you, man, and support your efforts.

    I’m just a little guy with a keyboard and access to some very good libraries. I do what I can. I also have to pay the bills. I have heard of Suvarov, I think I’ve read- or youtubed his central arguments — they seemed plausible to me, but I know that several regulars on UF criticize him strenuously. I wonder if The Saker has ever opined on Suvarov.

    I’m not sure what you mean by “meat and potatoes” re Suvarov and Poland.

    My own history is really weird: Mother came here from Italy to escape Mussolini, lost her family home and farm in the process. Dad’s family from the same village in Italy but Dad was born in USA; he was injured while fighting the Italians in Sept. 1943 (just before Italy shifted from Axis to Allies). None of my grandparents spoke English, but it didn’t really matter because I never knew them. We lived in a Polish parish (in an Irish diocese — pre-diversity diversity) where I went to school; the nuns were from Poland: as you know, the intelligentsia in Poland were killed; my teachers/ nuns had been trained as housekeepers; they could barely speak English: I learned prayers in Polish before I learned ABCs. Being a poor neighborhood w/ a Slavic base, Hungarian refugees moved into our neighborhood and attended my church/school. Like many of my — our — generation, I remember ducking under desks, but I also remember the “DPs” — Displaced Persons — from Hungary wearing stocking caps on their heads after being treated for lice, and lining up to have my scalp examined for lice.

    I’m refining my obsession with WWII: I want to know what my parents’s lives were like; I want to know what Italy was like before the war, during the war and after the war. I want to know what it was like for my grandparents to be Italian immigrants in an America that did not trust them, and what it was like for my Father to return, injured & disabled, from a war to an America that still hated Italians. I want to know the character of the soil in which my roots grew. I’m not that interested in Poland, Chuck; sorry.

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    the “DPs” — Displaced Persons — from Hungary wearing stocking caps on their heads after being treated for lice, and lining up to have my scalp examined for lice.

    Lucky for you that you were subjected to the American de-lousing model rather than the Nazi one.

    And people claim God doesn't have a sense of humor.

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  • @Dannie
    Clyde, you seem to forget that Europe caved first to Jewish migration. The Jews brought their demands for open immigration, communism/bolshevism and their false flag terrorism attributed to Arabs. Had Christian Europe simply said no to Jewish immigration, they'd be in good shape. There would be at least 60 million more Christians, too, since the Bolsheviks, who were nearly all Jewish, killed 60 million of us. Where are the holocaust memorials to MY people, Clyde?

    Where are the holocaust memorials to MY people, Clyde?

    A compounded tragedy.

    I just became aware of Paul Hollander, editor of “From the Gulag to the Killing Fields: Personal Accounts of Political Violence and Repression in Communist States,” published by ISI Books in 2006. It took Hollander ten years to find a publisher for his 760-page collection of stories of victims of Communism in Soviet Union, Eastern Europe (320 pages); China, Cambodia, Viet Nam, North Korea, & others, ~410 pages.

    Hollander was also active in the effort to create a memorial to the Victims of Communism, in Washington, DC. By a unanimous vote, in 1993 U S Congress resolved that such a memorial should be erected. In 2007, George H Bush dedicated the “10-foot bronze replica of the Papier-mâché Goddess of Democracy statue made by student democracy protesters leading up to the Tiananmenn Square Massacre in 1989″ on land donated by the U S Park Service, at the intersection of Massachusetts Ave and G Street, Washington, DC.

    Even as this comment is being written, the Victims of Communism Centennial Commemoration is taking place in several venues around the District of Columbia.

    The statement, Compounded Tragedy, came to mind upon noticing that Natan Sharansky was honoree of the event and was to receive the Truman-Reagan Medal of Freedom; and that Niall Ferguson was the keynote speaker for the event. It’s difficult to view any of them as authentic representatives of- or spokespersons for- Victims of Communism.

    The statue — pointing to events in China — is not a memorial to the victims of Communism, it is a mockery. Imo its function is to point the finger at some Other, while failing to come to terms with the fact that the United States of America funded and supported the known-perpetrator of one of history’s most outrageous genocides, Josef Stalin and Bolsheviks.

    imo the Victims of Communism effort/committee/organization has been captured by gatekeepers commissioned to whitewash the disproportionate role of Bolshevik Jews in the near-total subversion of Russia in the late-19th and 20th centuries.

    An event scheduled for tomorrow at the Library of Congress is described as follows:

    Featuring Congressional remarks and panel discussions dedicated to an examination of the interrelatedness of Truth, Memory, and Justice in rendering an account of and coming to terms with the crimes of communist regimes. Specifically, panels will discuss: the scope of Soviet subversive activities abroad, the scale of communism’s crimes at home, and the ideological hurdles that must be overcome in writing a true account of both; the importance of memory [emphasis added] to reconciliation and justice and the danger of current attempts to whitewash the history of the Soviet era; and whether the legacy of the Soviet Union can be overcome and the Russian people finally be free.

    It seems to suggest an attempt to locate culpability in the Russian people, past AND present; and the use of the word Memory implies the appeal to emotion, rather than more vigorous evidence-based rationality in the process of seeking “reconciliation and justice.”

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  • @chris
    Thanks Chuck, I appreciate that.

    Yes I've read Suvorov's book and found his thesis to extremely plausible. He makes a very compelling argument which is 100% consistent with Stalin's character and with his "MO!" It's sort of our present (mercifully failed) strategy in Syria: support Terrorists to fight against the Regime and then jump, beat them and take over the government. ... and come to think of it, his advisers and our government's current ones may have had common some common lineage.

    Aside from some of it's stylistic shortcomings, I would have appreciated seeing pictures of German or Russian war maps, maybe captured by the Germans, to reinforce his argument that the Russians were going to let the Germans beat the French and then were going to stroll in and take all of Europe over.

    The most amazing information in the book was how Stalin fooled Hitler into attacking Poland first and joining the fight only after France and England declared war on Germany. That sequence is never described in that way in our history books! To me, this indicates that Stalin may well have had an agreement with the Western Powers beforehand!

    cheers, Chris

    Chris,

    Agreed, Stalin may have enjoyed prior agreements with western political-financial powers that had t.b.d. components.

    Great Britain went to war to save Poland from irredentist (“evil”) Germany.

    Post WW 2, Stalin’s award of central-east Europe (including Poland) by the Allies was triumphant for Ltd. Soviet expansion goal, but Operation Gladio helped trump the spread of communism into Italy and other western nations.

    I am for one a bit stymied as to the reluctance (hesitance) of powerful western financiers to “nip in the bud” Stalin’s advance of the revolution, Comintern.

    At any rate, with BIG $$$$$$ at stake given the need for rebuilding war ravaged western Europe, and of course revenue generating Cold War again$t “enemy” communism, the supreme Anglo-Zionist goal for creating the N.W.O. could wait a few decades.

    Thank you very much for the learned comment on “The Chief Culprit.”

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  • @Art
    If you’d only know, for how long I have been waiting for Mr. Giraldi to slide down the memory hole.

    Old Jew,

    You live a pseudo superior fantasy - you cannot kill the human spirit - the wrong being done is obvious - the deeds onerous - there will be more and more people like Mr. Giraldi.

    America was living off past accomplishments - now we are living off things that Jews did. Now we are reaping the impairments that Jews have put in play - and it is ugly.

    Clearly things are going badly - and getting worst by the day - and the reasons for these troubles can be traced back to you Jews. As you Jews get richer - we get poorer - as Israel get stronger - America gets more hated -- those are the facts.

    You can jibber-jabber all you want - but that is all that it is - empty talk. There are more people on to your Jew lies every day.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. I am doing a little survey among you Jews – when Israel does its well advertised “Samson suicide thing” - and nukes the world – what city do you want them to start with --- the Vatican or Berlin?

    p.s. Right now it is 50-50.

    It is easy to see the pervasiveness of Israel’s Mossad (if one knows where to look), arguably the most effective spy agency on the planet, please read “By Way of Deception” by Viktor Ostrowsky. From the Lavon affair (a “false flag” operation designed to draw the USA into a war with Egypt by making it appear that Arabs bombed the U S interests section–a planted bomb exploded prematurely, exposing this as a Israeli planned and executed “incident”) to the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty (NOT “misidentification”, but another attempt to draw the USA into a war with Egypt and to hide the deliberate massacre of civilians in an Egyptian city, Deir Yassin), to Jonathon Pollard and NSA spying utilizing a company named Amdocs (which handles all US telephone billing records), you will find that Israel looks out for Israel’s interests ONLY. Normally, there is nothing wrong with a country looking out after it’s own interests, BUT Israel has a nasty habit of spying (and setting up) it’s “friends”.

    Who the hell died and appointed Israel the “master” of the middle east?? Iran (and all other middle-eastern countries) KNOWS that any nuclear “discharge” would affect the whole middle east . . . Any country that possesses nukes is not stupid . . . Israel has over a hundred nukes, manufactured with stolen American classified technology, refuses inspections of its nuclear facilities and is, in general, a “pain in the ass” to the rest of the world, along with (blackmailed) “big brother” United States of America.

    It is no secret that the U S State Department is infested with dual-nationality Israeli-Americans who form (and foment) the bulk of our neocon “foreign policy” straight from Tel Aviv. In fact there are 40 or so congressmen and senators with dual-nationality “ties” to Israel.

    Most people are unaware that Israel holds a “Damocles sword” over the world. Any attack on Israel will be met with a nuclear device being detonated in a city of Israel’s choosing. Israel calls this the “Samson option” and is very real.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as its nukes are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

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  • @IsraelHatesChristians
    Nobody is siding with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel. On the contrary, we realize that you essentially ARE Hamas and Hezbollah. You have either infiltrated or outright CREATED many of these muslim terror groups. Al Qaeda and ISIS are 100% Israel created and run. Sorry, but we are not stupid; we see through you. You also commit a hell of a lot of false flag terrorism to blame on Muslims, in order to get Muslims and Christians to hate each other and kill each other. You hate Christians as much as you hate Muslims. And we return the sentiment.

    Islam is not just a “religion”, but is an all-encompassing foreign social and political system that governs all aspect of every moslem’s life. As such, NO Constitutional “First Amendment” protections need be afforded this foreign political system and their adherents. In fact, ALL moslems who hold American citizenship should be required to (re)affirm their loyalty to the United States.

    The only way for Islam to “reform itself” is to separate the spiritual aspect of the “religion” from the social and political part. Christianity did just that, hundreds of years ago… It is long overdue for Islam to reform itself–if it can…

    Islam is actually an arabicized version of judaism. Both the talmud and the koran have virtually identical passages in which the “supremacy” of each respective group is proclaimed. Both texts declare that non-believers are “less than human” and are to be used for the advantage of each respective cult. You can bet that, if push came to shove, jews would align with the muslims as they are of the same cloth.

    Add to that, ALL dual-citizenship should be abolished. There is no room in the United States for those who hold “dual-citizenship”. One cannot have split loyalties…split loyalties have contributed to our present situation.

    There is a “group” of dual-citizenship” types that deserve strict scrutiny. There are approximately 40 or so congresscritters who hold dual-citizenship with a “certain little country” in the middle east. In fact, many of these congresscritters are given all-expenses paid “vacations” to this “certain little country” as a “reward” for doing that country’s bidding. There are THOUSANDS of high-level federal “policy wonks” and government employees who also hold dual-citizenship with that “certain little country”. It is reasonable to question who they really work for–the USA or “that certain other country”.

    It is sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they are unconditional supporters of that “certain little country” in the middle east…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and deport themselves to that “certain little country” in the middle east…

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  • @Rurik
    Yes, I too want to thank Old Jew for that honest and eloquent account of his relatives. It all rings true, with tragedy to spare.

    and I agree with your characterization of Mr. Giralidi's profoundly important articles.

    even if the neocon-globalist-Zionists were to prevail, and enslave / murder the West, do they suppose the East will fail to notice, and allow the mission creep to reach their shores too?

    Hubris goes before a fall, and whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad.

    here's to all of us working to spread the truth in all things. The suffering of so many during the last century, (many of whom were Jews as well), and the terrible horrors that loom in this century if we don't wrest control of the West from the Fiend.

    btw, Old Jew, I did a quick search of that word you used; Sabra, and it gave me a new perspective on your name..

    Old Jew:


    For good reason did the Sabra’s despise the Yehudim Galutim (Diaspora Jews) that reached Palestine after the war. How come you did not put up a fight?
     
    from Wiki:

    Jewish immigrants to Palestine began using the term [Sabra] in the early 1930s. The term was used by the Zionist movement, to celebrate the "New Jew" that emerged in the Holy Land. Unlike the bourgeois "Old Jew" born in the diaspora, the "New Jew" was a kibbutz member or a farmer. The "Old Jew" often spoke broken Hebrew with a heavy accent, while the sabra spoke the language as a mother tongue. Unlike the "Old Jew" who did not fight for his self-defense, the Sabra fought in the Jewish resistance movements
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_(person)

    That’s great detective work, Rurik !!! (Once again)

    OJ’s family story matches the label he used.

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  • @chris
    Thank you OJ, thank you very much for sharing the story of your grandparents, I am very sorry to hear that.

    Thank you also for describing the actual narrative of what happened to your family and to that of your people there. I have Jewish friends from the Ukraine who related their experiences there, but my knowledge of the plight of the people from your area was a little sketchy. I really appreciate your clearing that up for me.

    The horror which is ultimately bestowed on the "little" people by the hatred which is set in motion from the criminals at the top (then as well as now) is the reason we need to work together to stop these crimes; because in the end, we're all going to pay a very heavy toll again for their misdeeds.

    This is why we all feel so strongly for the work which Phil is doing here. You're in no danger that his writings will trigger some kind of pogrom. His hammering away at the nefarious machinations of our elites is what might ultimately wake more people up in both our communities to derail their plans. We're all screwed if we don't do that.


    I can't imagine what the imbecile planners in Tel Aviv and their allies in DC are thinking in laying waste to the whole middle East and in antagonizing Russia. I don't mean to sound patronizing, but if Jews don't understand the machinations and reversals of history, especially after the last century, I don't know who can.

    Yes, I too want to thank Old Jew for that honest and eloquent account of his relatives. It all rings true, with tragedy to spare.

    and I agree with your characterization of Mr. Giralidi’s profoundly important articles.

    even if the neocon-globalist-Zionists were to prevail, and enslave / murder the West, do they suppose the East will fail to notice, and allow the mission creep to reach their shores too?

    Hubris goes before a fall, and whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad.

    here’s to all of us working to spread the truth in all things. The suffering of so many during the last century, (many of whom were Jews as well), and the terrible horrors that loom in this century if we don’t wrest control of the West from the Fiend.

    btw, Old Jew, I did a quick search of that word you used; Sabra, and it gave me a new perspective on your name..

    Old Jew:

    For good reason did the Sabra’s despise the Yehudim Galutim (Diaspora Jews) that reached Palestine after the war. How come you did not put up a fight?

    from Wiki:

    Jewish immigrants to Palestine began using the term [Sabra] in the early 1930s. The term was used by the Zionist movement, to celebrate the “New Jew” that emerged in the Holy Land. Unlike the bourgeois “Old Jew” born in the diaspora, the “New Jew” was a kibbutz member or a farmer. The “Old Jew” often spoke broken Hebrew with a heavy accent, while the sabra spoke the language as a mother tongue. Unlike the “Old Jew” who did not fight for his self-defense, the Sabra fought in the Jewish resistance movements

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_(person)

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    That's great detective work, Rurik !!! (Once again)

    OJ's family story matches the label he used.
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Chris,

    I respect how you think.

    By chance, have you read Suvorov's military detailed history book, "The Chief Culprit"?

    Politely and respectfully, I have asked SolontoCroesus to offer comment about the "meat & potato" in Suvorov's unorthodox work but he has not done so.

    According to author Suvorov, Josef Stalin had awesome means & plans for a Soviet military invasion and conquest of western Europe. Of course, Hitler beat Stalin to the "punch" though, and the Germans went on what became doomed offense.

    The "Chief Culprit" provides a WW II history that the victors want vanquished. Thanks very much, Chris.

    Thanks Chuck, I appreciate that.

    Yes I’ve read Suvorov’s book and found his thesis to extremely plausible. He makes a very compelling argument which is 100% consistent with Stalin’s character and with his “MO!” It’s sort of our present (mercifully failed) strategy in Syria: support Terrorists to fight against the Regime and then jump, beat them and take over the government. … and come to think of it, his advisers and our government’s current ones may have had common some common lineage.

    Aside from some of it’s stylistic shortcomings, I would have appreciated seeing pictures of German or Russian war maps, maybe captured by the Germans, to reinforce his argument that the Russians were going to let the Germans beat the French and then were going to stroll in and take all of Europe over.

    The most amazing information in the book was how Stalin fooled Hitler into attacking Poland first and joining the fight only after France and England declared war on Germany. That sequence is never described in that way in our history books! To me, this indicates that Stalin may well have had an agreement with the Western Powers beforehand!

    cheers, Chris

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    Chris,

    Agreed, Stalin may have enjoyed prior agreements with western political-financial powers that had t.b.d. components.

    Great Britain went to war to save Poland from irredentist ("evil") Germany.

    Post WW 2, Stalin's award of central-east Europe (including Poland) by the Allies was triumphant for Ltd. Soviet expansion goal, but Operation Gladio helped trump the spread of communism into Italy and other western nations.

    I am for one a bit stymied as to the reluctance (hesitance) of powerful western financiers to "nip in the bud" Stalin's advance of the revolution, Comintern.

    At any rate, with BIG $$$$$$ at stake given the need for rebuilding war ravaged western Europe, and of course revenue generating Cold War again$t "enemy" communism, the supreme Anglo-Zionist goal for creating the N.W.O. could wait a few decades.

    Thank you very much for the learned comment on "The Chief Culprit."
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  • @Clyde
    Good for Israel. They resist and fight Islam. They are the front line against the eternal jihad of Islam. You want a comparison, just look at ultra cuckified Western Europe as they cave into the Muslim migration jihad and demographic jihad of making Muslim babies to swamp Sweden Germany France and Europe.

    Clyde, you seem to forget that Europe caved first to Jewish migration. The Jews brought their demands for open immigration, communism/bolshevism and their false flag terrorism attributed to Arabs. Had Christian Europe simply said no to Jewish immigration, they’d be in good shape. There would be at least 60 million more Christians, too, since the Bolsheviks, who were nearly all Jewish, killed 60 million of us. Where are the holocaust memorials to MY people, Clyde?

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    Where are the holocaust memorials to MY people, Clyde?
     
    A compounded tragedy.

    I just became aware of Paul Hollander, editor of "From the Gulag to the Killing Fields: Personal Accounts of Political Violence and Repression in Communist States," published by ISI Books in 2006. It took Hollander ten years to find a publisher for his 760-page collection of stories of victims of Communism in Soviet Union, Eastern Europe (320 pages); China, Cambodia, Viet Nam, North Korea, & others, ~410 pages.

    Hollander was also active in the effort to create a memorial to the Victims of Communism, in Washington, DC. By a unanimous vote, in 1993 U S Congress resolved that such a memorial should be erected. In 2007, George H Bush dedicated the "10-foot bronze replica of the Papier-mâché Goddess of Democracy statue made by student democracy protesters leading up to the Tiananmenn Square Massacre in 1989" on land donated by the U S Park Service, at the intersection of Massachusetts Ave and G Street, Washington, DC.

    Even as this comment is being written, the Victims of Communism Centennial Commemoration is taking place in several venues around the District of Columbia.

    The statement, Compounded Tragedy, came to mind upon noticing that Natan Sharansky was honoree of the event and was to receive the Truman-Reagan Medal of Freedom; and that Niall Ferguson was the keynote speaker for the event. It's difficult to view any of them as authentic representatives of- or spokespersons for- Victims of Communism.

    The statue -- pointing to events in China -- is not a memorial to the victims of Communism, it is a mockery. Imo its function is to point the finger at some Other, while failing to come to terms with the fact that the United States of America funded and supported the known-perpetrator of one of history's most outrageous genocides, Josef Stalin and Bolsheviks.

    imo the Victims of Communism effort/committee/organization has been captured by gatekeepers commissioned to whitewash the disproportionate role of Bolshevik Jews in the near-total subversion of Russia in the late-19th and 20th centuries.

    An event scheduled for tomorrow at the Library of Congress is described as follows:

    Featuring Congressional remarks and panel discussions dedicated to an examination of the interrelatedness of Truth, Memory, and Justice in rendering an account of and coming to terms with the crimes of communist regimes. Specifically, panels will discuss: the scope of Soviet subversive activities abroad, the scale of communism’s crimes at home, and the ideological hurdles that must be overcome in writing a true account of both; the importance of memory [emphasis added] to reconciliation and justice and the danger of current attempts to whitewash the history of the Soviet era; and whether the legacy of the Soviet Union can be overcome and the Russian people finally be free.
     
    It seems to suggest an attempt to locate culpability in the Russian people, past AND present; and the use of the word Memory implies the appeal to emotion, rather than more vigorous evidence-based rationality in the process of seeking "reconciliation and justice."
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  • Excellent! I have never heard that quote by John Sheehan, but you can bet I’ll be repeating it from now on.

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  • @Old Jew
    Chris and Rurik,

    1.Chris , your description of the situation in Romania is 90% accurate. The situation of adult Jewish males in Old Romania (vechiul Regat) was perhaps paradoxically better than that of their Romanian counterparts. Jews were doing forced labor , more or less harsh. Romanian were on the front, fighting the Russians, dying or as prisoners of war (taken near Stalingrad) starving and freezing.

    Transnistria was a part of Ukraine (Soviet Union) that Hitler gave to Romania in compensation for Northern Transylvania given to Hungary. (Sept. 1940).

    Earlier (June 1940) the Soviet Union gave an ultimatum to retreat from Bessarabia (today the Country of Moldova) former a Russian territory conquered from the Ottomans (Moldavia was their vassal) and the northern half of Bukowina (included my town of birth Czernowitz) a former province of the Austrian Empire annexed by Romania in November 1918.

    The big protector of Romania was France. But in May 1940, Germans occupied Paris. Britain was fighting for is life. Romania obeyed the Russian ultimatum, and retreated in 3 day.

    The Jews of Bessarabia, and Bukowina (at least young hotheads) were happy about the liberation from those Romanian antisemites.

    On 22 June 1941 Romanians crossed the river Prut, and in about 2-3 weeks chased out the Soviets from all the lands given up in 1940, almost a year ago. If only they would have stopped there.

    For their treachery from June 1940, the Jews were punished to leave their homes (was it the 9th or 11th of October 1941) doors unlocked , hand luggage only, go to the train station and be transported to their future. After interminable train rides (military train had precedence) they were disembarked on the right bank of the river Nistru (Dniestr in Russian) , that is the border between Bessarabia
    and Ukraine and crossed by ferry into the land beyond (Transnistria). The lucky ones managed to stay in Mogylev. most were placed into columns and marched deeper deeper East all the way to the Bug (the eastern most border of Transnistria),

    A single Romanian gendarme (state trooper?) would control a column of hundreds or thousands of Jews,marching like sheep in the mud and in the cold.

    For good reason did the Sabra's despise the Yehudim Galutim (Diaspora Jews) that reached Palestine after the war. How come you did not put up a fight?

    My grandfather was a men's tailor, and my grandmother was a women's tailor. They had been good subjects of Emperor Franz Joseph, and never learned well Romanian. Everybody in Czernowitz spoke German (my mother tongue).
    It did not much the Romanian National mythos, of Bukowina chaffing under the alien (Austrian) yoke and dreaming of the return to Moldavia.

    Good Oestereicher, with ingrained respect for Authority, my grandparents showed up at the train station in October 1941. What fight ? what resistance?

    And in 1942 they died a month apart of typhus.

    Thank you OJ, thank you very much for sharing the story of your grandparents, I am very sorry to hear that.

    Thank you also for describing the actual narrative of what happened to your family and to that of your people there. I have Jewish friends from the Ukraine who related their experiences there, but my knowledge of the plight of the people from your area was a little sketchy. I really appreciate your clearing that up for me.

    The horror which is ultimately bestowed on the “little” people by the hatred which is set in motion from the criminals at the top (then as well as now) is the reason we need to work together to stop these crimes; because in the end, we’re all going to pay a very heavy toll again for their misdeeds.

    This is why we all feel so strongly for the work which Phil is doing here. You’re in no danger that his writings will trigger some kind of pogrom. His hammering away at the nefarious machinations of our elites is what might ultimately wake more people up in both our communities to derail their plans. We’re all screwed if we don’t do that.

    I can’t imagine what the imbecile planners in Tel Aviv and their allies in DC are thinking in laying waste to the whole middle East and in antagonizing Russia. I don’t mean to sound patronizing, but if Jews don’t understand the machinations and reversals of history, especially after the last century, I don’t know who can.

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    Yes, I too want to thank Old Jew for that honest and eloquent account of his relatives. It all rings true, with tragedy to spare.

    and I agree with your characterization of Mr. Giralidi's profoundly important articles.

    even if the neocon-globalist-Zionists were to prevail, and enslave / murder the West, do they suppose the East will fail to notice, and allow the mission creep to reach their shores too?

    Hubris goes before a fall, and whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad.

    here's to all of us working to spread the truth in all things. The suffering of so many during the last century, (many of whom were Jews as well), and the terrible horrors that loom in this century if we don't wrest control of the West from the Fiend.

    btw, Old Jew, I did a quick search of that word you used; Sabra, and it gave me a new perspective on your name..

    Old Jew:


    For good reason did the Sabra’s despise the Yehudim Galutim (Diaspora Jews) that reached Palestine after the war. How come you did not put up a fight?
     
    from Wiki:

    Jewish immigrants to Palestine began using the term [Sabra] in the early 1930s. The term was used by the Zionist movement, to celebrate the "New Jew" that emerged in the Holy Land. Unlike the bourgeois "Old Jew" born in the diaspora, the "New Jew" was a kibbutz member or a farmer. The "Old Jew" often spoke broken Hebrew with a heavy accent, while the sabra spoke the language as a mother tongue. Unlike the "Old Jew" who did not fight for his self-defense, the Sabra fought in the Jewish resistance movements
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_(person)
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  • @whyamihere
    It's amazing to me how people like the ones on this site who are so in the know about the dangers of Islam and mass-Muslim migration get so angry at the thought of the US supporting the only friend it has in the region, Israel.

    You subsequently take the side of Muslim terrorists who if they got their way would slaughter every Jew and turn Israel into another third world Muslim hellhole where barbarity is commonplace. Instead, you vilify a leader in technological and agricultural innovation, Israel.

    True, many Jews are leftist, but these are mainly secular Jews. If you read the Old Testament, you'd find out that Judaism is most certainly conservative.

    Can someone please explain to me (with limited snark, if possible) why you side with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel?

    Nobody is siding with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel. On the contrary, we realize that you essentially ARE Hamas and Hezbollah. You have either infiltrated or outright CREATED many of these muslim terror groups. Al Qaeda and ISIS are 100% Israel created and run. Sorry, but we are not stupid; we see through you. You also commit a hell of a lot of false flag terrorism to blame on Muslims, in order to get Muslims and Christians to hate each other and kill each other. You hate Christians as much as you hate Muslims. And we return the sentiment.

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    Islam is not just a “religion”, but is an all-encompassing foreign social and political system that governs all aspect of every moslem’s life. As such, NO Constitutional “First Amendment” protections need be afforded this foreign political system and their adherents. In fact, ALL moslems who hold American citizenship should be required to (re)affirm their loyalty to the United States.

    The only way for Islam to “reform itself” is to separate the spiritual aspect of the “religion” from the social and political part. Christianity did just that, hundreds of years ago… It is long overdue for Islam to reform itself–if it can…

    Islam is actually an arabicized version of judaism. Both the talmud and the koran have virtually identical passages in which the “supremacy” of each respective group is proclaimed. Both texts declare that non-believers are “less than human” and are to be used for the advantage of each respective cult. You can bet that, if push came to shove, jews would align with the muslims as they are of the same cloth.

    Add to that, ALL dual-citizenship should be abolished. There is no room in the United States for those who hold “dual-citizenship”. One cannot have split loyalties…split loyalties have contributed to our present situation.

    There is a “group” of dual-citizenship” types that deserve strict scrutiny. There are approximately 40 or so congresscritters who hold dual-citizenship with a “certain little country” in the middle east. In fact, many of these congresscritters are given all-expenses paid “vacations” to this “certain little country” as a “reward” for doing that country’s bidding. There are THOUSANDS of high-level federal “policy wonks” and government employees who also hold dual-citizenship with that “certain little country”. It is reasonable to question who they really work for–the USA or “that certain other country”.

    It is sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they are unconditional supporters of that “certain little country” in the middle east…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and deport themselves to that “certain little country” in the middle east…
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  • @Old Jew
    Chris and Rurik,

    1.Chris , your description of the situation in Romania is 90% accurate. The situation of adult Jewish males in Old Romania (vechiul Regat) was perhaps paradoxically better than that of their Romanian counterparts. Jews were doing forced labor , more or less harsh. Romanian were on the front, fighting the Russians, dying or as prisoners of war (taken near Stalingrad) starving and freezing.

    Transnistria was a part of Ukraine (Soviet Union) that Hitler gave to Romania in compensation for Northern Transylvania given to Hungary. (Sept. 1940).

    Earlier (June 1940) the Soviet Union gave an ultimatum to retreat from Bessarabia (today the Country of Moldova) former a Russian territory conquered from the Ottomans (Moldavia was their vassal) and the northern half of Bukowina (included my town of birth Czernowitz) a former province of the Austrian Empire annexed by Romania in November 1918.

    The big protector of Romania was France. But in May 1940, Germans occupied Paris. Britain was fighting for is life. Romania obeyed the Russian ultimatum, and retreated in 3 day.

    The Jews of Bessarabia, and Bukowina (at least young hotheads) were happy about the liberation from those Romanian antisemites.

    On 22 June 1941 Romanians crossed the river Prut, and in about 2-3 weeks chased out the Soviets from all the lands given up in 1940, almost a year ago. If only they would have stopped there.

    For their treachery from June 1940, the Jews were punished to leave their homes (was it the 9th or 11th of October 1941) doors unlocked , hand luggage only, go to the train station and be transported to their future. After interminable train rides (military train had precedence) they were disembarked on the right bank of the river Nistru (Dniestr in Russian) , that is the border between Bessarabia
    and Ukraine and crossed by ferry into the land beyond (Transnistria). The lucky ones managed to stay in Mogylev. most were placed into columns and marched deeper deeper East all the way to the Bug (the eastern most border of Transnistria),

    A single Romanian gendarme (state trooper?) would control a column of hundreds or thousands of Jews,marching like sheep in the mud and in the cold.

    For good reason did the Sabra's despise the Yehudim Galutim (Diaspora Jews) that reached Palestine after the war. How come you did not put up a fight?

    My grandfather was a men's tailor, and my grandmother was a women's tailor. They had been good subjects of Emperor Franz Joseph, and never learned well Romanian. Everybody in Czernowitz spoke German (my mother tongue).
    It did not much the Romanian National mythos, of Bukowina chaffing under the alien (Austrian) yoke and dreaming of the return to Moldavia.

    Good Oestereicher, with ingrained respect for Authority, my grandparents showed up at the train station in October 1941. What fight ? what resistance?

    And in 1942 they died a month apart of typhus.

    Old Jew,

    You document the horrors of tribalism so well – you know what tribalism leads to – yet as a Jew you promote it – you us it to gain power over other people.

    Your adult conscious mind tells the truth – but your childhood subconscious mind filled with hate and rage for your fellow humans overrides your logic – your childhood culture owns you.

    How sad – live by the tribe – die by the tribe.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @chris
    Wow, Rurik that's a very good analysis and, in my opinion, much closer to the truth than anything that's being taught about this period anywhere.

    As you allude in your post, what our friend OJ leaves out of his accusation is what had lead up to the "spirit" of those 1940-1 newspapers.

    In the period after the Russian Revolution, great numbers of people in Europe had been horrified at the monstrous crimes the Bolsheviks had and were continuning to commit in Russia, the Ukraine and everywhere else in the Russian domains. And because the ring leaders of this slaughter were initially almost entirely all Jews, their communities came naturally under suspicion in European countries. This, also after attempted revolutions in Germany and Hungary in 1918/19, had again been lead by Jews. Revolutions which, if successful, were plausably believed to lead to the same slaughter the original one had in Russia.

    With the onset of the world economic depression of the 1930s, and in a direct reaction to the socialist/communist movements foisting revolution, military dictatorships arose in Europe "to deal with" the perceived states of emergency threatening the continent. What OJ's Romanian newspapers were probably referring to, was pointing out the Jewish connection to the crazed Communist revolutionaries. Yet for all that, the initial measures which were adopted against their community had been relatively mild, considering that the revolutionaries were perceived to be the ISIS of their day. By the 30s, these were not just theoretical threats, as the Spanish Civil war, with its Soviet support, was showing.

    Being allied with Germany at the beginning of the war, Romania was not occupied by the Germans. Parts of its territories such as Transylvania were given by Germany to Hungary. In the parts which stayed under Romanian control, Jews were NOT deported but lived freely with everyone else under war time restrictions for the duration of the war (this has remained a little secret in the popular narrative of the war). The only exception was OJ's Romanian territory of Transnistria, the present day country of Moldova I think where, following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops against Romanian troops joining the German Russia campaign, the Romanian military dictator, declared he would remove "his protective hand" from their society. Consequently, the Jews in that region were rounded put into some concentration camps, but mostly, I think, relocated onto open land, outside of towns an villages, which was indeed a great hazard for them.

    The Jewish communities in Eastern Europe were never able to entirely dispell the suspicion that they supported the Russian revolutionaries. And it was clear to all that in the event of a communist win, those communities were going to be spared the brunt of the predations which the Christian communities were going to be subject to - in fact, their members could look forward to leading positions in those Communist governments, as it later came to be.

    And so, at the onset of the war, in about 1939, as you point out in your comment, the eastern European countries didn't have the choice between allying themselves with Stalin or with Albert Schweitzer but between Stalin and Hitler. Up until that point in time, Lenin and then Stalin had already murdered millions of people, which was an unprecedented peace-time slaughter in Europe not seen since the French Revolution, while Hitler had, in essence, "only" imposed regulations which were, more or less commensurate with a state of emergency (Only a couple of years later Roosevelt interred all the Japanese-Americans!). The Axis allies may or may not have known what Hitler would do, but they sure knew what crimes Stalin had committed already and was continuing to commit.

    Unlike the socialists/communists, the Fascists did not create totalitarian regimes upending society, but imposed "emergency measures." Where, "upended society," actually means that they arrested and murdered almost entirely the upper part and completely terrorized the rest of society.

    This procedure was imposed in Russia after the Revolution, and in Eastern Europe, after 1945, when the "liberating" Russian troops installed "satellite" regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews.

    Chris and Rurik,

    1.Chris , your description of the situation in Romania is 90% accurate. The situation of adult Jewish males in Old Romania (vechiul Regat) was perhaps paradoxically better than that of their Romanian counterparts. Jews were doing forced labor , more or less harsh. Romanian were on the front, fighting the Russians, dying or as prisoners of war (taken near Stalingrad) starving and freezing.

    Transnistria was a part of Ukraine (Soviet Union) that Hitler gave to Romania in compensation for Northern Transylvania given to Hungary. (Sept. 1940).

    Earlier (June 1940) the Soviet Union gave an ultimatum to retreat from Bessarabia (today the Country of Moldova) former a Russian territory conquered from the Ottomans (Moldavia was their vassal) and the northern half of Bukowina (included my town of birth Czernowitz) a former province of the Austrian Empire annexed by Romania in November 1918.

    The big protector of Romania was France. But in May 1940, Germans occupied Paris. Britain was fighting for is life. Romania obeyed the Russian ultimatum, and retreated in 3 day.

    The Jews of Bessarabia, and Bukowina (at least young hotheads) were happy about the liberation from those Romanian antisemites.

    On 22 June 1941 Romanians crossed the river Prut, and in about 2-3 weeks chased out the Soviets from all the lands given up in 1940, almost a year ago. If only they would have stopped there.

    For their treachery from June 1940, the Jews were punished to leave their homes (was it the 9th or 11th of October 1941) doors unlocked , hand luggage only, go to the train station and be transported to their future. After interminable train rides (military train had precedence) they were disembarked on the right bank of the river Nistru (Dniestr in Russian) , that is the border between Bessarabia
    and Ukraine and crossed by ferry into the land beyond (Transnistria). The lucky ones managed to stay in Mogylev. most were placed into columns and marched deeper deeper East all the way to the Bug (the eastern most border of Transnistria),

    A single Romanian gendarme (state trooper?) would control a column of hundreds or thousands of Jews,marching like sheep in the mud and in the cold.

    For good reason did the Sabra’s despise the Yehudim Galutim (Diaspora Jews) that reached Palestine after the war. How come you did not put up a fight?

    My grandfather was a men’s tailor, and my grandmother was a women’s tailor. They had been good subjects of Emperor Franz Joseph, and never learned well Romanian. Everybody in Czernowitz spoke German (my mother tongue).
    It did not much the Romanian National mythos, of Bukowina chaffing under the alien (Austrian) yoke and dreaming of the return to Moldavia.

    Good Oestereicher, with ingrained respect for Authority, my grandparents showed up at the train station in October 1941. What fight ? what resistance?

    And in 1942 they died a month apart of typhus.

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    Old Jew,

    You document the horrors of tribalism so well – you know what tribalism leads to - yet as a Jew you promote it – you us it to gain power over other people.

    Your adult conscious mind tells the truth – but your childhood subconscious mind filled with hate and rage for your fellow humans overrides your logic – your childhood culture owns you.

    How sad – live by the tribe – die by the tribe.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @chris
    Thank you OJ, thank you very much for sharing the story of your grandparents, I am very sorry to hear that.

    Thank you also for describing the actual narrative of what happened to your family and to that of your people there. I have Jewish friends from the Ukraine who related their experiences there, but my knowledge of the plight of the people from your area was a little sketchy. I really appreciate your clearing that up for me.

    The horror which is ultimately bestowed on the "little" people by the hatred which is set in motion from the criminals at the top (then as well as now) is the reason we need to work together to stop these crimes; because in the end, we're all going to pay a very heavy toll again for their misdeeds.

    This is why we all feel so strongly for the work which Phil is doing here. You're in no danger that his writings will trigger some kind of pogrom. His hammering away at the nefarious machinations of our elites is what might ultimately wake more people up in both our communities to derail their plans. We're all screwed if we don't do that.


    I can't imagine what the imbecile planners in Tel Aviv and their allies in DC are thinking in laying waste to the whole middle East and in antagonizing Russia. I don't mean to sound patronizing, but if Jews don't understand the machinations and reversals of history, especially after the last century, I don't know who can.

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    I do not blame Islam for terrorism. I blame circumstances and the nature of youth. When young men see their identity people being kill by a powerful force – it is natural that they fight back.
     
    The problem is who defines terrorism. When the US bombs and kills civilians, it is called collateral damage. When the civilians fight back and kill Americans, it is called terrorism. I am not condoning terrorism, I am just trying to explain the problem. Israel, which is the real instigator, sits quietly and smiles while its puppets kill her enemies or get killed themselves.

    Israel's new boogie man is Iran. The US/CIA is trying their level best to appease Israel by blaming everything on Iran. From Afghanistan to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen, the US sees Iran's hand behind them. Now comes the latest revelation about Iran's ties to Al-Qaeda. It took them 16 years to finally put the blame on Iran for 9/11, the facts be damned. Not one of the 19 hijackers was Irani. But hey, Israel wants it that way , that's the way it is going to be.

    Both the Al-Qaeda and ISIS have been killing Shias all over the world and the US wants us to believe that Iran will side with killers of its own people. Unfortunately, as long as the Jewish/Zionist money controls the US politics American blood will continue to be spilt along with the blood of millions of innocent Muslim civilians.

    “Israel, which is the real instigator, sits quietly and smiles while its puppets kill her enemies or get killed themselves. Israel’s new boogie man is Iran. The US/CIA is trying their level best to appease Israel by blaming everything on Iran. From Afghanistan to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen, the US sees Iran’s hand behind them. Now comes the latest revelation about Iran’s ties to Al-Qaeda. It took them 16 years to finally put the blame on Iran for 9/11, the facts be damned. Not one of the 19 hijackers was Irani. But hey, Israel wants it that way , that’s the way it is going to be. Both the Al-Qaeda and ISIS have been killing Shias all over the world and the US wants us to believe that Iran will side with killers of its own people.”

    Agree.

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  • @chris
    Thanks Rurik, I was very impressed by your analysis: you used logic to deduce a hole in OJ's missive and I couldn't bear not providing you the confirmation which I happen to know.

    The popular narrative of Jewish victimhood in the 20th century, coming out of the blue from the biggoted Europeans, as OJ was trying to insinuate doesn't hold water, and I think that anyone who thinks about it realize that; but it's hard to argue agains the popular narrative without considering the historical context.

    The Russian Revolution set in motion a series of events which resulted in an enormous amount of death and suffering of innocent people, including in both the Christian and Jewish communities. For for that reason alone it's very important to try to understand how these events fueled a reaction, which in tern fueled more death and suffering in a cycle of "genocidal hatred," as you put it.

    Like many people, I'm trying to piece together the actual narrative of the 20th century to understand for myself the context of what happened and what continues to happen in the 21st century. I'm no historian but my narrative came from discussions I've had with people in these communities, and ought to be the subject of historical research, in order to correct inaccuracies which it might contain, ... but as any cursive view of such research might indicate, this just ain't the case.

    PS in the interest of this clarity, I wanted to correct 2 points in my previous comment:
    1. "following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops" - no, not "partisan troops" they were just "partisans" (guerrillas).
    2, "Russian troops installed “satellite” regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews." These regimes were eventually replaced by native collaborators.

    The popular narrative of Jewish victimhood in the 20th century, coming out of the blue from the biggoted Europeans, as OJ was trying to insinuate doesn’t hold water

    thank you Chris,

    you’re so right about that

    and it’s punctuated by Bibi standing there at the UN lectern – scolding the world’s governments (and by implication, all of us) for our lack of compassion for human rights and countenancing genocide.

    as that revolting piece of shit is the biggest genocidal mass murderer on the planet

    what a farce!

    what an over-the-top hypocritical insult to our collective intelligence. It’s like Jerry Sandusky lecturing us all on our lack of compassion for the innocence of little boys.

    and you’re so right about the twisted, duplicitous narrative that they’ve foisted all over the place that has everyone bowing and scraping with guilt over the Holocaust, as if the rage of the Polish and Hungarian and Ukrainian and German and Russian people came out of nowhere

    there was a cartoon (subsequently scrubbed from the Internet) that showed a Jew with the blood of Russians and Ukrainians and Poles dripping from his knife, crying about how persecuted he is.

    when I think of Bibi standing there at the UN, I think of that cartoon.

    The Russian Revolution set in motion a series of events which resulted in an enormous amount of death and suffering of innocent people, including in both the Christian and Jewish communities. For for that reason alone it’s very important to try to understand how these events fueled a reaction, which in tern fueled more death and suffering in a cycle of “genocidal hatred,” as you put it.

    for that reason, and because they’re trying to do it all again in this century too!

    that’s what 9/11 was all about. Creating the kind of genocidal horrors and mass-murder and atrocities (even a permanent American torture camp! – Our very own Room 101) in this century that they perpetrated in the last one. That’s why they are installing their Total Surveillance Police State all over the Western world. That’s why our media are now universally known as a ‘Ministry of Truth’, because we all know it’s all lies all day long)

    Cheers Chris, and thanks for your reply and your comments

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    Thanks Rurik, I was very impressed by your analysis: you used logic to deduce a hole in OJ's missive and I couldn't bear not providing you the confirmation which I happen to know.

    The popular narrative of Jewish victimhood in the 20th century, coming out of the blue from the biggoted Europeans, as OJ was trying to insinuate doesn't hold water, and I think that anyone who thinks about it realize that; but it's hard to argue agains the popular narrative without considering the historical context.

    The Russian Revolution set in motion a series of events which resulted in an enormous amount of death and suffering of innocent people, including in both the Christian and Jewish communities. For for that reason alone it's very important to try to understand how these events fueled a reaction, which in tern fueled more death and suffering in a cycle of "genocidal hatred," as you put it.

    Like many people, I'm trying to piece together the actual narrative of the 20th century to understand for myself the context of what happened and what continues to happen in the 21st century. I'm no historian but my narrative came from discussions I've had with people in these communities, and ought to be the subject of historical research, in order to correct inaccuracies which it might contain, ... but as any cursive view of such research might indicate, this just ain't the case.

    PS in the interest of this clarity, I wanted to correct 2 points in my previous comment:
    1. "following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops" - no, not "partisan troops" they were just "partisans" (guerrillas).
    2, "Russian troops installed “satellite” regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews." These regimes were eventually replaced by native collaborators.

    Chris,

    I respect how you think.

    By chance, have you read Suvorov’s military detailed history book, “The Chief Culprit”?

    Politely and respectfully, I have asked SolontoCroesus to offer comment about the “meat & potato” in Suvorov’s unorthodox work but he has not done so.

    According to author Suvorov, Josef Stalin had awesome means & plans for a Soviet military invasion and conquest of western Europe. Of course, Hitler beat Stalin to the “punch” though, and the Germans went on what became doomed offense.

    The “Chief Culprit” provides a WW II history that the victors want vanquished. Thanks very much, Chris.

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    Thanks Chuck, I appreciate that.

    Yes I've read Suvorov's book and found his thesis to extremely plausible. He makes a very compelling argument which is 100% consistent with Stalin's character and with his "MO!" It's sort of our present (mercifully failed) strategy in Syria: support Terrorists to fight against the Regime and then jump, beat them and take over the government. ... and come to think of it, his advisers and our government's current ones may have had common some common lineage.

    Aside from some of it's stylistic shortcomings, I would have appreciated seeing pictures of German or Russian war maps, maybe captured by the Germans, to reinforce his argument that the Russians were going to let the Germans beat the French and then were going to stroll in and take all of Europe over.

    The most amazing information in the book was how Stalin fooled Hitler into attacking Poland first and joining the fight only after France and England declared war on Germany. That sequence is never described in that way in our history books! To me, this indicates that Stalin may well have had an agreement with the Western Powers beforehand!

    cheers, Chris
    , @SolontoCroesus
    Apologies, ChuckOrloski.

    You know I love you, man, and support your efforts.

    I'm just a little guy with a keyboard and access to some very good libraries. I do what I can. I also have to pay the bills. I have heard of Suvarov, I think I've read- or youtubed his central arguments -- they seemed plausible to me, but I know that several regulars on UF criticize him strenuously. I wonder if The Saker has ever opined on Suvarov.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "meat and potatoes" re Suvarov and Poland.

    My own history is really weird: Mother came here from Italy to escape Mussolini, lost her family home and farm in the process. Dad's family from the same village in Italy but Dad was born in USA; he was injured while fighting the Italians in Sept. 1943 (just before Italy shifted from Axis to Allies). None of my grandparents spoke English, but it didn't really matter because I never knew them. We lived in a Polish parish (in an Irish diocese -- pre-diversity diversity) where I went to school; the nuns were from Poland: as you know, the intelligentsia in Poland were killed; my teachers/ nuns had been trained as housekeepers; they could barely speak English: I learned prayers in Polish before I learned ABCs. Being a poor neighborhood w/ a Slavic base, Hungarian refugees moved into our neighborhood and attended my church/school. Like many of my -- our -- generation, I remember ducking under desks, but I also remember the "DPs" -- Displaced Persons -- from Hungary wearing stocking caps on their heads after being treated for lice, and lining up to have my scalp examined for lice.

    I'm refining my obsession with WWII: I want to know what my parents's lives were like; I want to know what Italy was like before the war, during the war and after the war. I want to know what it was like for my grandparents to be Italian immigrants in an America that did not trust them, and what it was like for my Father to return, injured & disabled, from a war to an America that still hated Italians. I want to know the character of the soil in which my roots grew. I'm not that interested in Poland, Chuck; sorry.

    , @jacques sheete

    By chance, have you read Suvorov’s military detailed history book, “The Chief Culprit”?
     
    I've read it and recommend it highly. Lots of good stuff there.

    Here's another


    As late as 1958, then, Taylor clung as tenaciously as before to his Germanophobic line... [then]’ A.J.P. Taylor began to investigate the documents, and as he did so, he began to realize the truth. The power of the truth, and his courageous recognition of the truth swept away all of his own biases and preconceptions

    … the Germans were morally right…


    -Murray N. Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, by A.J .P. Taylor, (London: Hamish Hamilton, 1961 — now New York: Athenaeum, 1962).
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/03/murray-n-rothbard/origins-2nd-world-war/
     

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    @Incitatus

    “We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world…”
     
    Good advice Art.

    Wonder why S2C, Beefcake, Rurik and others have WW1-WW2 Germany-on-the-brain disease? Few (if any) suggestions on dropping ‘passionate attachments’, reigning in Likud or improving Palestinian life? No vision of any hopeful ME future? No acquaintance with Pals? Just rage vented at Jews that always seems designed to exonerate odious war crimes?

    Here’s todays example:

    “Whites can be some really dumb shitz at times. To this day, most revile one of their finest, Herr Hitler, and Mr Buchanan should understand that.”
    - Jaques/Jacques Sheet 5 Nov 17 #26
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/their-america-and-ours/
     
    Don’t know about you Art, but I have family that fought the “finest”. Cousins injured and imprisoned by him. Don’t recall them letting perfumed farts for the Führer.

    Have any remarked on our NSA giving American-Palestinian citizens’ Metadata to Israel, allowing blackmail in Gaza and the West Bank? We don’t do it for any other ally. Indeed, it’s probably unconstitutional.

    Could it be because Planet Germania doesn’t care about Palestinians? They’re breathless for a Fourth Reich? Getting up a lynch mob here would be a good beginning. Whad’ya think?

    Kati Marton’s ‘Death in Jerusalem’ might interest you. Yehoshua Cohen’s murder of (unarmed) UN envoy Folke Bernadotte and André Sérot. History more relevant than the Nazi echo-chamber.

    Remember. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

    Don’t know about you Art, but I have family that fought the “finest”. Cousins injured and imprisoned by him.

    assume said cousins recovered from their injuries, were released from prison and returned to the loving embrace of your family?
    In contrast to millions of German civilians who were ethnically cleansed from their homes; and hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers who were killed if they turned back, or who were sent to gulags after fighting for Stalin, or whose families were also sent to forced labor camps.

    Ever think that maybe your cousins fought for the wrong side?

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    Excellent analysis and summery Chris,

    you obviously know more about the evils of Bolshevism/Soviet horrors in Eastern Europe than most, certainly myself.

    thanks for the thoughtful and enlightening post

    there are real cases of anti-Semitism, it isn't always bullshit

    but when ever it does happen, it seems to me that it is always comes on reluctantly by a host people who eventually have to protect themselves from a nether-worldly murderous and genocidal hatred that threatens these people's very existence

    I suspect that if you were a Palestinian or Kulak.. a Libyan, Iraqi or a Polish intellectual at Katyn, who got to meet the NKVD / Zionists up close and personal, that you'd end up being an anti-Semite of sorts too.

    Thanks Rurik, I was very impressed by your analysis: you used logic to deduce a hole in OJ’s missive and I couldn’t bear not providing you the confirmation which I happen to know.

    The popular narrative of Jewish victimhood in the 20th century, coming out of the blue from the biggoted Europeans, as OJ was trying to insinuate doesn’t hold water, and I think that anyone who thinks about it realize that; but it’s hard to argue agains the popular narrative without considering the historical context.

    The Russian Revolution set in motion a series of events which resulted in an enormous amount of death and suffering of innocent people, including in both the Christian and Jewish communities. For for that reason alone it’s very important to try to understand how these events fueled a reaction, which in tern fueled more death and suffering in a cycle of “genocidal hatred,” as you put it.

    Like many people, I’m trying to piece together the actual narrative of the 20th century to understand for myself the context of what happened and what continues to happen in the 21st century. I’m no historian but my narrative came from discussions I’ve had with people in these communities, and ought to be the subject of historical research, in order to correct inaccuracies which it might contain, … but as any cursive view of such research might indicate, this just ain’t the case.

    PS in the interest of this clarity, I wanted to correct 2 points in my previous comment:
    1. “following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops” – no, not “partisan troops” they were just “partisans” (guerrillas).
    2, “Russian troops installed “satellite” regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews.” These regimes were eventually replaced by native collaborators.

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    Chris,

    I respect how you think.

    By chance, have you read Suvorov's military detailed history book, "The Chief Culprit"?

    Politely and respectfully, I have asked SolontoCroesus to offer comment about the "meat & potato" in Suvorov's unorthodox work but he has not done so.

    According to author Suvorov, Josef Stalin had awesome means & plans for a Soviet military invasion and conquest of western Europe. Of course, Hitler beat Stalin to the "punch" though, and the Germans went on what became doomed offense.

    The "Chief Culprit" provides a WW II history that the victors want vanquished. Thanks very much, Chris.
    , @Rurik

    The popular narrative of Jewish victimhood in the 20th century, coming out of the blue from the biggoted Europeans, as OJ was trying to insinuate doesn’t hold water
     
    thank you Chris,

    you're so right about that

    and it's punctuated by Bibi standing there at the UN lectern - scolding the world's governments (and by implication, all of us) for our lack of compassion for human rights and countenancing genocide.

    as that revolting piece of shit is the biggest genocidal mass murderer on the planet

    what a farce!

    what an over-the-top hypocritical insult to our collective intelligence. It's like Jerry Sandusky lecturing us all on our lack of compassion for the innocence of little boys.

    and you're so right about the twisted, duplicitous narrative that they've foisted all over the place that has everyone bowing and scraping with guilt over the Holocaust, as if the rage of the Polish and Hungarian and Ukrainian and German and Russian people came out of nowhere

    there was a cartoon (subsequently scrubbed from the Internet) that showed a Jew with the blood of Russians and Ukrainians and Poles dripping from his knife, crying about how persecuted he is.

    when I think of Bibi standing there at the UN, I think of that cartoon.

    The Russian Revolution set in motion a series of events which resulted in an enormous amount of death and suffering of innocent people, including in both the Christian and Jewish communities. For for that reason alone it’s very important to try to understand how these events fueled a reaction, which in tern fueled more death and suffering in a cycle of “genocidal hatred,” as you put it.
     
    for that reason, and because they're trying to do it all again in this century too!

    that's what 9/11 was all about. Creating the kind of genocidal horrors and mass-murder and atrocities (even a permanent American torture camp! - Our very own Room 101) in this century that they perpetrated in the last one. That's why they are installing their Total Surveillance Police State all over the Western world. That's why our media are now universally known as a 'Ministry of Truth', because we all know it's all lies all day long)

    Cheers Chris, and thanks for your reply and your comments
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  • @Incitatus

    “We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world…”
     
    Good advice Art.

    Wonder why S2C, Beefcake, Rurik and others have WW1-WW2 Germany-on-the-brain disease? Few (if any) suggestions on dropping ‘passionate attachments’, reigning in Likud or improving Palestinian life? No vision of any hopeful ME future? No acquaintance with Pals? Just rage vented at Jews that always seems designed to exonerate odious war crimes?

    Here’s todays example:

    “Whites can be some really dumb shitz at times. To this day, most revile one of their finest, Herr Hitler, and Mr Buchanan should understand that.”
    - Jaques/Jacques Sheet 5 Nov 17 #26
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/their-america-and-ours/
     
    Don’t know about you Art, but I have family that fought the “finest”. Cousins injured and imprisoned by him. Don’t recall them letting perfumed farts for the Führer.

    Have any remarked on our NSA giving American-Palestinian citizens’ Metadata to Israel, allowing blackmail in Gaza and the West Bank? We don’t do it for any other ally. Indeed, it’s probably unconstitutional.

    Could it be because Planet Germania doesn’t care about Palestinians? They’re breathless for a Fourth Reich? Getting up a lynch mob here would be a good beginning. Whad’ya think?

    Kati Marton’s ‘Death in Jerusalem’ might interest you. Yehoshua Cohen’s murder of (unarmed) UN envoy Folke Bernadotte and André Sérot. History more relevant than the Nazi echo-chamber.

    Remember. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

    Could it be because Planet Germania doesn’t care about Palestinians? They’re breathless for a Fourth Reich? Getting up a lynch mob here would be a good beginning. Whad’ya think?

    If you honestly believe that – I think that you are sick! You exhibit the all-consuming Jew disease “they want to kill all the Jews” scenario. If you don’t believe that, then you are a nasty person putting a guilt trip on everyone. (Doubtless both.)

    On a personal note – I did lose a significant relative to the Nazis – I hate war – not the German people.

    However, I am totally disappointed the German government – they are giving nuclear delivery capable submarines to Israel.

    How stupid can one nation be – when Israel does its crazy Samson suicide thing – Germany will be target number one for their nukes.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @Incitatus
    Bernadotte’s very interesting. Rescued Jews during WW2. Fringe-Zionists hate explaining why he was murdered, André Sérot as well. A flaw in the ‘we did all we could for peace, it was Arabs who wanted war’ stick. If memory serves, Bernadotte was about to propose peace involving right-to-return? Been a while since I read Marton’s book.

    Hey Incitatus,

    Your assessment sounds right, though I forget the details – as I said, it’s been a while! Yeah, the man was far too reasonable a figure – that simply did not serve the agenda.

    Therefore, he said to be – ahem – taken out of the picture.

    Swedes who are old enough to remember, like my mother-in-law, are still pissed off at the Zionists for that one.

    Peace.

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  • @Talha
    Being a Swedish fan...

    Folke Bernadotte reference!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3LE15AyT5g

    Bernadotte’s very interesting. Rescued Jews during WW2. Fringe-Zionists hate explaining why he was murdered, André Sérot as well. A flaw in the ‘we did all we could for peace, it was Arabs who wanted war’ stick. If memory serves, Bernadotte was about to propose peace involving right-to-return? Been a while since I read Marton’s book.

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    Hey Incitatus,

    Your assessment sounds right, though I forget the details - as I said, it's been a while! Yeah, the man was far too reasonable a figure - that simply did not serve the agenda.

    Therefore, he said to be - ahem - taken out of the picture.

    Swedes who are old enough to remember, like my mother-in-law, are still pissed off at the Zionists for that one.

    Peace.
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  • @Incitatus

    “We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world…”
     
    Good advice Art.

    Wonder why S2C, Beefcake, Rurik and others have WW1-WW2 Germany-on-the-brain disease? Few (if any) suggestions on dropping ‘passionate attachments’, reigning in Likud or improving Palestinian life? No vision of any hopeful ME future? No acquaintance with Pals? Just rage vented at Jews that always seems designed to exonerate odious war crimes?

    Here’s todays example:

    “Whites can be some really dumb shitz at times. To this day, most revile one of their finest, Herr Hitler, and Mr Buchanan should understand that.”
    - Jaques/Jacques Sheet 5 Nov 17 #26
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/their-america-and-ours/
     
    Don’t know about you Art, but I have family that fought the “finest”. Cousins injured and imprisoned by him. Don’t recall them letting perfumed farts for the Führer.

    Have any remarked on our NSA giving American-Palestinian citizens’ Metadata to Israel, allowing blackmail in Gaza and the West Bank? We don’t do it for any other ally. Indeed, it’s probably unconstitutional.

    Could it be because Planet Germania doesn’t care about Palestinians? They’re breathless for a Fourth Reich? Getting up a lynch mob here would be a good beginning. Whad’ya think?

    Kati Marton’s ‘Death in Jerusalem’ might interest you. Yehoshua Cohen’s murder of (unarmed) UN envoy Folke Bernadotte and André Sérot. History more relevant than the Nazi echo-chamber.

    Remember. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

    Being a Swedish fan…

    Folke Bernadotte reference!

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    Bernadotte’s very interesting. Rescued Jews during WW2. Fringe-Zionists hate explaining why he was murdered, André Sérot as well. A flaw in the ‘we did all we could for peace, it was Arabs who wanted war’ stick. If memory serves, Bernadotte was about to propose peace involving right-to-return? Been a while since I read Marton’s book.
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  • @chris
    Wow, Rurik that's a very good analysis and, in my opinion, much closer to the truth than anything that's being taught about this period anywhere.

    As you allude in your post, what our friend OJ leaves out of his accusation is what had lead up to the "spirit" of those 1940-1 newspapers.

    In the period after the Russian Revolution, great numbers of people in Europe had been horrified at the monstrous crimes the Bolsheviks had and were continuning to commit in Russia, the Ukraine and everywhere else in the Russian domains. And because the ring leaders of this slaughter were initially almost entirely all Jews, their communities came naturally under suspicion in European countries. This, also after attempted revolutions in Germany and Hungary in 1918/19, had again been lead by Jews. Revolutions which, if successful, were plausably believed to lead to the same slaughter the original one had in Russia.

    With the onset of the world economic depression of the 1930s, and in a direct reaction to the socialist/communist movements foisting revolution, military dictatorships arose in Europe "to deal with" the perceived states of emergency threatening the continent. What OJ's Romanian newspapers were probably referring to, was pointing out the Jewish connection to the crazed Communist revolutionaries. Yet for all that, the initial measures which were adopted against their community had been relatively mild, considering that the revolutionaries were perceived to be the ISIS of their day. By the 30s, these were not just theoretical threats, as the Spanish Civil war, with its Soviet support, was showing.

    Being allied with Germany at the beginning of the war, Romania was not occupied by the Germans. Parts of its territories such as Transylvania were given by Germany to Hungary. In the parts which stayed under Romanian control, Jews were NOT deported but lived freely with everyone else under war time restrictions for the duration of the war (this has remained a little secret in the popular narrative of the war). The only exception was OJ's Romanian territory of Transnistria, the present day country of Moldova I think where, following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops against Romanian troops joining the German Russia campaign, the Romanian military dictator, declared he would remove "his protective hand" from their society. Consequently, the Jews in that region were rounded put into some concentration camps, but mostly, I think, relocated onto open land, outside of towns an villages, which was indeed a great hazard for them.

    The Jewish communities in Eastern Europe were never able to entirely dispell the suspicion that they supported the Russian revolutionaries. And it was clear to all that in the event of a communist win, those communities were going to be spared the brunt of the predations which the Christian communities were going to be subject to - in fact, their members could look forward to leading positions in those Communist governments, as it later came to be.

    And so, at the onset of the war, in about 1939, as you point out in your comment, the eastern European countries didn't have the choice between allying themselves with Stalin or with Albert Schweitzer but between Stalin and Hitler. Up until that point in time, Lenin and then Stalin had already murdered millions of people, which was an unprecedented peace-time slaughter in Europe not seen since the French Revolution, while Hitler had, in essence, "only" imposed regulations which were, more or less commensurate with a state of emergency (Only a couple of years later Roosevelt interred all the Japanese-Americans!). The Axis allies may or may not have known what Hitler would do, but they sure knew what crimes Stalin had committed already and was continuing to commit.

    Unlike the socialists/communists, the Fascists did not create totalitarian regimes upending society, but imposed "emergency measures." Where, "upended society," actually means that they arrested and murdered almost entirely the upper part and completely terrorized the rest of society.

    This procedure was imposed in Russia after the Revolution, and in Eastern Europe, after 1945, when the "liberating" Russian troops installed "satellite" regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews.

    Excellent analysis and summery Chris,

    you obviously know more about the evils of Bolshevism/Soviet horrors in Eastern Europe than most, certainly myself.

    thanks for the thoughtful and enlightening post

    there are real cases of anti-Semitism, it isn’t always bullshit

    but when ever it does happen, it seems to me that it is always comes on reluctantly by a host people who eventually have to protect themselves from a nether-worldly murderous and genocidal hatred that threatens these people’s very existence

    I suspect that if you were a Palestinian or Kulak.. a Libyan, Iraqi or a Polish intellectual at Katyn, who got to meet the NKVD / Zionists up close and personal, that you’d end up being an anti-Semite of sorts too.

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    Thanks Rurik, I was very impressed by your analysis: you used logic to deduce a hole in OJ's missive and I couldn't bear not providing you the confirmation which I happen to know.

    The popular narrative of Jewish victimhood in the 20th century, coming out of the blue from the biggoted Europeans, as OJ was trying to insinuate doesn't hold water, and I think that anyone who thinks about it realize that; but it's hard to argue agains the popular narrative without considering the historical context.

    The Russian Revolution set in motion a series of events which resulted in an enormous amount of death and suffering of innocent people, including in both the Christian and Jewish communities. For for that reason alone it's very important to try to understand how these events fueled a reaction, which in tern fueled more death and suffering in a cycle of "genocidal hatred," as you put it.

    Like many people, I'm trying to piece together the actual narrative of the 20th century to understand for myself the context of what happened and what continues to happen in the 21st century. I'm no historian but my narrative came from discussions I've had with people in these communities, and ought to be the subject of historical research, in order to correct inaccuracies which it might contain, ... but as any cursive view of such research might indicate, this just ain't the case.

    PS in the interest of this clarity, I wanted to correct 2 points in my previous comment:
    1. "following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops" - no, not "partisan troops" they were just "partisans" (guerrillas).
    2, "Russian troops installed “satellite” regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews." These regimes were eventually replaced by native collaborators.

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  • The plot thickens:

    Breaking News

    Saudi Arabia blames Iran for missile launched from Yemen, warns it could be considered ‘act of war’

    https://www.rt.com/news/408864-saudi-iran-missile-war/

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  • @Art
    If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    RobinG,

    Israel hides behind a series of word lies.

    Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, blood libel, WWII. Each of those words encapsulate lies – they are a gross exaggeration of the truth.

    When those words are used “victim Jew” is subconsciously regurgitated. In the Western mind when WWII is brought up, it is automatic, _Victim JEWS_ comes to mind.

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.

    We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews.

    That battle we can win. “That truth will set us free.”

    Think Peace --- Art

    “We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world…”

    Good advice Art.

    Wonder why S2C, Beefcake, Rurik and others have WW1-WW2 Germany-on-the-brain disease? Few (if any) suggestions on dropping ‘passionate attachments’, reigning in Likud or improving Palestinian life? No vision of any hopeful ME future? No acquaintance with Pals? Just rage vented at Jews that always seems designed to exonerate odious war crimes?

    Here’s todays example:

    “Whites can be some really dumb shitz at times. To this day, most revile one of their finest, Herr Hitler, and Mr Buchanan should understand that.”
    - Jaques/Jacques Sheet 5 Nov 17 #26
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/their-america-and-ours/

    Don’t know about you Art, but I have family that fought the “finest”. Cousins injured and imprisoned by him. Don’t recall them letting perfumed farts for the Führer.

    Have any remarked on our NSA giving American-Palestinian citizens’ Metadata to Israel, allowing blackmail in Gaza and the West Bank? We don’t do it for any other ally. Indeed, it’s probably unconstitutional.

    Could it be because Planet Germania doesn’t care about Palestinians? They’re breathless for a Fourth Reich? Getting up a lynch mob here would be a good beginning. Whad’ya think?

    Kati Marton’s ‘Death in Jerusalem’ might interest you. Yehoshua Cohen’s murder of (unarmed) UN envoy Folke Bernadotte and André Sérot. History more relevant than the Nazi echo-chamber.

    Remember. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

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    Being a Swedish fan...

    Folke Bernadotte reference!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3LE15AyT5g
    , @Art
    Could it be because Planet Germania doesn’t care about Palestinians? They’re breathless for a Fourth Reich? Getting up a lynch mob here would be a good beginning. Whad’ya think?

    If you honestly believe that - I think that you are sick! You exhibit the all-consuming Jew disease “they want to kill all the Jews” scenario. If you don’t believe that, then you are a nasty person putting a guilt trip on everyone. (Doubtless both.)

    On a personal note - I did lose a significant relative to the Nazis – I hate war – not the German people.

    However, I am totally disappointed the German government – they are giving nuclear delivery capable submarines to Israel.

    How stupid can one nation be – when Israel does its crazy Samson suicide thing – Germany will be target number one for their nukes.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @anon

    Don’t know about you Art, but I have family that fought the “finest”. Cousins injured and imprisoned by him.
     
    assume said cousins recovered from their injuries, were released from prison and returned to the loving embrace of your family?
    In contrast to millions of German civilians who were ethnically cleansed from their homes; and hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers who were killed if they turned back, or who were sent to gulags after fighting for Stalin, or whose families were also sent to forced labor camps.

    Ever think that maybe your cousins fought for the wrong side?
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  • @Talha
    Hey Miro23,

    Good stuff...


    Modernity/Technology isn’t going into reverse gear.
     
    Barring a massive solar flare that puts us back into the 18th century - you are probably correct. Have you read Brave New World?

    isn’t necessarily a bad thing
     
    Not necessarily, but quite possible. Thus far, those societies that have adopted "technology" as the apex of their culture haven't thought about what they have lost. My earnest advice, please read this book:
    "Tools are not integrated into the culture; they attack the culture. They bid to become the culture. As a consequence, tradition, social mores, myth, politics, ritual, and religion have to fight for their lives."
    "Technocracy gave us the idea of progress, and of necessity loosened our bonds with tradition — whether political or spiritual. Technocracy filled the air with the promise o new freedoms and new forms of social organization. Technocracy also speeded up the world. We could get places faster, do things faster, accomplish more in a shorter time. Time, in fact, became an adversary over which technology could triumph. And this meant that there was no time to look back or to contemplate what was being lost."
    https://vialogue.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/technopoly-notes-review/
    http://www.scottlondon.com/reviews/postman.html

    why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore...and good decision making has an ethical content
     
    Who defines these ethics? Can we come to a universal agreement on them? What is the basis for ethics in the post-modernism world when it has spent so much effort in deconstructing any of the other ethical traditions. For instance (bringing it back to the topic at hand - hat tip to Chuck), one of the claims of the Zionists that they bring to the West is couched in the terms of "efficiency" and the redefining of "human rights":
    We turned the desert into a prosperous country, the olive groves* of the Palestinians must be removed for progress, if they ever take over they won't allow gay people to hold parades in Jerusalem because it is a "holy" city, etc.

    Darwinian selectivity ("survival of the fittest") can be used to frame ethics - plenty of people on these forum do it. Is it any more immoral for an African tribe to wipe out, say, the pygmies (if it can be proven empirically that one is genetically superior in all aspects) than for one type of boar to eliminate another set of bboars by driving them away from a watering hole? Why? The fittest boars or humans survive - makes no sense to shed tears over genetic dead waste any more that it does to shed tears over the mastodon. This is progress after all.

    Peace.

    *These trees have lifespans greater than most empires and human civilizations. Some of these olive trees have been around since before Islam appeared in the Hijaz and have been generously providing for man through the Crusades, through the Mongol invasions, through the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The Qur'an takes an oath upon the olive. Does the modern world have any room for any respect for such things any more:
    "Provided with the appropriate growing conditions, this tree can survive in relative neglect for hundreds of years. While olive trees may live to be as old as 1,500 years, the average lifespan is 500 years."
    http://homeguides.sfgate.com/life-span-olive-trees-60048.html

    “Technocracy gave us the idea of progress, and of necessity loosened our bonds with tradition — whether political or spiritual. Technocracy filled the air with the promise o new freedoms and new forms of social organization.

    Tech gives the average person the “rich decease” – to much free time.

    “Idle hands are the devil’s workshop.” In our tech future there is going to be more free time.

    The middle class will be less preoccupied with the business of sustaining a living.

    Doing family things will become more important.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @Talha
    Hey Miro23,

    Good stuff...


    Modernity/Technology isn’t going into reverse gear.
     
    Barring a massive solar flare that puts us back into the 18th century - you are probably correct. Have you read Brave New World?

    isn’t necessarily a bad thing
     
    Not necessarily, but quite possible. Thus far, those societies that have adopted "technology" as the apex of their culture haven't thought about what they have lost. My earnest advice, please read this book:
    "Tools are not integrated into the culture; they attack the culture. They bid to become the culture. As a consequence, tradition, social mores, myth, politics, ritual, and religion have to fight for their lives."
    "Technocracy gave us the idea of progress, and of necessity loosened our bonds with tradition — whether political or spiritual. Technocracy filled the air with the promise o new freedoms and new forms of social organization. Technocracy also speeded up the world. We could get places faster, do things faster, accomplish more in a shorter time. Time, in fact, became an adversary over which technology could triumph. And this meant that there was no time to look back or to contemplate what was being lost."
    https://vialogue.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/technopoly-notes-review/
    http://www.scottlondon.com/reviews/postman.html

    why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore...and good decision making has an ethical content
     
    Who defines these ethics? Can we come to a universal agreement on them? What is the basis for ethics in the post-modernism world when it has spent so much effort in deconstructing any of the other ethical traditions. For instance (bringing it back to the topic at hand - hat tip to Chuck), one of the claims of the Zionists that they bring to the West is couched in the terms of "efficiency" and the redefining of "human rights":
    We turned the desert into a prosperous country, the olive groves* of the Palestinians must be removed for progress, if they ever take over they won't allow gay people to hold parades in Jerusalem because it is a "holy" city, etc.

    Darwinian selectivity ("survival of the fittest") can be used to frame ethics - plenty of people on these forum do it. Is it any more immoral for an African tribe to wipe out, say, the pygmies (if it can be proven empirically that one is genetically superior in all aspects) than for one type of boar to eliminate another set of bboars by driving them away from a watering hole? Why? The fittest boars or humans survive - makes no sense to shed tears over genetic dead waste any more that it does to shed tears over the mastodon. This is progress after all.

    Peace.

    *These trees have lifespans greater than most empires and human civilizations. Some of these olive trees have been around since before Islam appeared in the Hijaz and have been generously providing for man through the Crusades, through the Mongol invasions, through the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The Qur'an takes an oath upon the olive. Does the modern world have any room for any respect for such things any more:
    "Provided with the appropriate growing conditions, this tree can survive in relative neglect for hundreds of years. While olive trees may live to be as old as 1,500 years, the average lifespan is 500 years."
    http://homeguides.sfgate.com/life-span-olive-trees-60048.html

    “Technocracy also speeded up the world. We could get places faster, do things faster, accomplish more in a shorter time. Time, in fact, became an adversary over which technology could triumph. And this meant that there was no time to look back or to contemplate what was being lost.”

    I’ve ordered Postman’s book and this is true enough. Technology and instant communication work against people actually physically meeting round a table, and it allows entertainment in a personal bubble, but on the other hand, it’s also got amazing minority reach (e.g. Unz).

    why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore…and good decision making has an ethical content

    Who defines these ethics? Can we come to a universal agreement on them?

    I don’t buy Darwinian “Survival of the Fittest” for humans. It more or less works for animals but humans have to organize some kind of rule based society to survive at anything other than the most basic level. Somehow you have to organize a society that allows you to buy food in a supermarket rather than go out hunting each day.

    The implications are rules, contracts, enforcement etc. and there have to be some judgments of fairness, right and wrong, and state protection behind the rules.

    In J. Storr Hall’s interesting book, “Beyond AI: Creating the Conscience of the Machine” he discusses (Chapter 18 onwards), robotic/ A.I. ethics as applicable to a new hypothetical network “self”, and for what it’s worth, he opts for the Boy Scout Law: “One should be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent”, and he sees the task as, “… building a machine that understands what these qualities mean and what can we do to ensure that the machines that are built will have them.”

    https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-AI-Creating-Conscience-Machine/dp/1591025117/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1509912667&sr=1-1&keywords=AI+storrs+hall

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  • @chris
    Wow, Rurik that's a very good analysis and, in my opinion, much closer to the truth than anything that's being taught about this period anywhere.

    As you allude in your post, what our friend OJ leaves out of his accusation is what had lead up to the "spirit" of those 1940-1 newspapers.

    In the period after the Russian Revolution, great numbers of people in Europe had been horrified at the monstrous crimes the Bolsheviks had and were continuning to commit in Russia, the Ukraine and everywhere else in the Russian domains. And because the ring leaders of this slaughter were initially almost entirely all Jews, their communities came naturally under suspicion in European countries. This, also after attempted revolutions in Germany and Hungary in 1918/19, had again been lead by Jews. Revolutions which, if successful, were plausably believed to lead to the same slaughter the original one had in Russia.

    With the onset of the world economic depression of the 1930s, and in a direct reaction to the socialist/communist movements foisting revolution, military dictatorships arose in Europe "to deal with" the perceived states of emergency threatening the continent. What OJ's Romanian newspapers were probably referring to, was pointing out the Jewish connection to the crazed Communist revolutionaries. Yet for all that, the initial measures which were adopted against their community had been relatively mild, considering that the revolutionaries were perceived to be the ISIS of their day. By the 30s, these were not just theoretical threats, as the Spanish Civil war, with its Soviet support, was showing.

    Being allied with Germany at the beginning of the war, Romania was not occupied by the Germans. Parts of its territories such as Transylvania were given by Germany to Hungary. In the parts which stayed under Romanian control, Jews were NOT deported but lived freely with everyone else under war time restrictions for the duration of the war (this has remained a little secret in the popular narrative of the war). The only exception was OJ's Romanian territory of Transnistria, the present day country of Moldova I think where, following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops against Romanian troops joining the German Russia campaign, the Romanian military dictator, declared he would remove "his protective hand" from their society. Consequently, the Jews in that region were rounded put into some concentration camps, but mostly, I think, relocated onto open land, outside of towns an villages, which was indeed a great hazard for them.

    The Jewish communities in Eastern Europe were never able to entirely dispell the suspicion that they supported the Russian revolutionaries. And it was clear to all that in the event of a communist win, those communities were going to be spared the brunt of the predations which the Christian communities were going to be subject to - in fact, their members could look forward to leading positions in those Communist governments, as it later came to be.

    And so, at the onset of the war, in about 1939, as you point out in your comment, the eastern European countries didn't have the choice between allying themselves with Stalin or with Albert Schweitzer but between Stalin and Hitler. Up until that point in time, Lenin and then Stalin had already murdered millions of people, which was an unprecedented peace-time slaughter in Europe not seen since the French Revolution, while Hitler had, in essence, "only" imposed regulations which were, more or less commensurate with a state of emergency (Only a couple of years later Roosevelt interred all the Japanese-Americans!). The Axis allies may or may not have known what Hitler would do, but they sure knew what crimes Stalin had committed already and was continuing to commit.

    Unlike the socialists/communists, the Fascists did not create totalitarian regimes upending society, but imposed "emergency measures." Where, "upended society," actually means that they arrested and murdered almost entirely the upper part and completely terrorized the rest of society.

    This procedure was imposed in Russia after the Revolution, and in Eastern Europe, after 1945, when the "liberating" Russian troops installed "satellite" regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews.

    The Axis allies may or may not have known what Hitler would do, but they sure knew what crimes Stalin had committed already and was continuing to commit.

    LOL. Another Trump v. Killary analogy.

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  • @Millennial
    My comments (directed at earlier commenters that did not include you), were, in fact, relevant to the subject at hand - chiefly because there remains a cottage industry of commentators (Moldbuggists, professional Celtic/Southron victims, Jews) who specifically, and incorrectly, blame "Puritans" "Yankees" "Calvinists" etc for the state of the modern West (incl. the pandering to Israel).

    "Hollywood's demoralizing..."

    Kevin Spacey and his ilk would be right at home in the Elizabethan/Jacobean theatre scene (when both adult men and young boys were groomed to play female roles). "Puritans" specifically targeted theatre for its institutionalized pedophilia, homosexuality, and other such things. The UK crown, in this era, was an ally of the thespians (See also - Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew).

    "stage plays, the common idol and prevailing evil of our dissolute and degenerous age....He that speaks against them... is forthwith branded for a schismatical or factious Puritan. And if any one assay to alter or suppress them, he becomes so odious unto many... Whereas such who further these delights of sin are highly magnified, as the chief contrivers of the public happiness."

    -William Prynne, 1633

    (Zigh)

    Absolutely. The Jews all by their lonesome seized control of the country and do whatever they feel like.

    Where’s iffen when you need him?

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  • @Talha
    Hey Miro23,

    Good stuff...


    Modernity/Technology isn’t going into reverse gear.
     
    Barring a massive solar flare that puts us back into the 18th century - you are probably correct. Have you read Brave New World?

    isn’t necessarily a bad thing
     
    Not necessarily, but quite possible. Thus far, those societies that have adopted "technology" as the apex of their culture haven't thought about what they have lost. My earnest advice, please read this book:
    "Tools are not integrated into the culture; they attack the culture. They bid to become the culture. As a consequence, tradition, social mores, myth, politics, ritual, and religion have to fight for their lives."
    "Technocracy gave us the idea of progress, and of necessity loosened our bonds with tradition — whether political or spiritual. Technocracy filled the air with the promise o new freedoms and new forms of social organization. Technocracy also speeded up the world. We could get places faster, do things faster, accomplish more in a shorter time. Time, in fact, became an adversary over which technology could triumph. And this meant that there was no time to look back or to contemplate what was being lost."
    https://vialogue.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/technopoly-notes-review/
    http://www.scottlondon.com/reviews/postman.html

    why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore...and good decision making has an ethical content
     
    Who defines these ethics? Can we come to a universal agreement on them? What is the basis for ethics in the post-modernism world when it has spent so much effort in deconstructing any of the other ethical traditions. For instance (bringing it back to the topic at hand - hat tip to Chuck), one of the claims of the Zionists that they bring to the West is couched in the terms of "efficiency" and the redefining of "human rights":
    We turned the desert into a prosperous country, the olive groves* of the Palestinians must be removed for progress, if they ever take over they won't allow gay people to hold parades in Jerusalem because it is a "holy" city, etc.

    Darwinian selectivity ("survival of the fittest") can be used to frame ethics - plenty of people on these forum do it. Is it any more immoral for an African tribe to wipe out, say, the pygmies (if it can be proven empirically that one is genetically superior in all aspects) than for one type of boar to eliminate another set of bboars by driving them away from a watering hole? Why? The fittest boars or humans survive - makes no sense to shed tears over genetic dead waste any more that it does to shed tears over the mastodon. This is progress after all.

    Peace.

    *These trees have lifespans greater than most empires and human civilizations. Some of these olive trees have been around since before Islam appeared in the Hijaz and have been generously providing for man through the Crusades, through the Mongol invasions, through the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The Qur'an takes an oath upon the olive. Does the modern world have any room for any respect for such things any more:
    "Provided with the appropriate growing conditions, this tree can survive in relative neglect for hundreds of years. While olive trees may live to be as old as 1,500 years, the average lifespan is 500 years."
    http://homeguides.sfgate.com/life-span-olive-trees-60048.html

    These trees have lifespans greater than most empires and human civilizations. Some of these olive trees have been around since before Islam appeared in the Hijaz and have been generously providing for man through the Crusades, through the Mongol invasions, through the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The Qur’an takes an oath upon the olive. Does the modern world have any room for any respect for such things any more

    Just in case any of you were interested in how Athens got its name:

    According to Greek mythology, the creation of the olive tree was the result of a contest between Athena, Goddess of Wisdom, and Poseidon, God of the Sea, as to who would become the protector of a newly built city in Attica (the historical region of Greece). The city would then be named after the god or goddess who gave the citizens the most precious, useful and divine gift. With his trident, Poseidon struck a rock. Water rushed out of the rock, creating a spring of salty water, symbolizing his gift of sea power. Athena followed by striking a rock with her spear and produced the olive tree, an offering signifying fruitfulness and peace. The citizens (wisely) chose the gift of Athena and she forever became the patroness of the city named after her. The story of her precious gift and the recognition of its value have been carried down through the millennia. Even today, an olive tree stands where the story of this legendary competition is said to have taken place. The myth continues as a “living legend” as it is said that all the olive trees in Athens were descended from that first olive tree offered by Athena.

    https://www.oliveoilsource.com/article/mythology-101-greatest-gift

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  • @Miro23

    I can only speak for myself based on what I have observed over the years; it seems Modernity has a place for humans, but I am unsure it has room for man.
     
    Modernity/Technology isn't going into reverse gear. If anything it's going to speed up, but this isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    Assuming that the trend continues, and computing/automation take over ever larger slices of human activity, why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore.

    After all, machines are now entering the realm of decision making, and good decision making has an ethical content (despite current anti-normative arguments).

    Hey Miro23,

    Good stuff…

    Modernity/Technology isn’t going into reverse gear.

    Barring a massive solar flare that puts us back into the 18th century – you are probably correct. Have you read Brave New World?

    isn’t necessarily a bad thing

    Not necessarily, but quite possible. Thus far, those societies that have adopted “technology” as the apex of their culture haven’t thought about what they have lost. My earnest advice, please read this book:
    “Tools are not integrated into the culture; they attack the culture. They bid to become the culture. As a consequence, tradition, social mores, myth, politics, ritual, and religion have to fight for their lives.”
    “Technocracy gave us the idea of progress, and of necessity loosened our bonds with tradition — whether political or spiritual. Technocracy filled the air with the promise o new freedoms and new forms of social organization. Technocracy also speeded up the world. We could get places faster, do things faster, accomplish more in a shorter time. Time, in fact, became an adversary over which technology could triumph. And this meant that there was no time to look back or to contemplate what was being lost.”

    https://vialogue.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/technopoly-notes-review/

    http://www.scottlondon.com/reviews/postman.html

    why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore…and good decision making has an ethical content

    Who defines these ethics? Can we come to a universal agreement on them? What is the basis for ethics in the post-modernism world when it has spent so much effort in deconstructing any of the other ethical traditions. For instance (bringing it back to the topic at hand – hat tip to Chuck), one of the claims of the Zionists that they bring to the West is couched in the terms of “efficiency” and the redefining of “human rights”:
    We turned the desert into a prosperous country, the olive groves* of the Palestinians must be removed for progress, if they ever take over they won’t allow gay people to hold parades in Jerusalem because it is a “holy” city, etc.

    Darwinian selectivity (“survival of the fittest”) can be used to frame ethics – plenty of people on these forum do it. Is it any more immoral for an African tribe to wipe out, say, the pygmies (if it can be proven empirically that one is genetically superior in all aspects) than for one type of boar to eliminate another set of bboars by driving them away from a watering hole? Why? The fittest boars or humans survive – makes no sense to shed tears over genetic dead waste any more that it does to shed tears over the mastodon. This is progress after all.

    Peace.

    *These trees have lifespans greater than most empires and human civilizations. Some of these olive trees have been around since before Islam appeared in the Hijaz and have been generously providing for man through the Crusades, through the Mongol invasions, through the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The Qur’an takes an oath upon the olive. Does the modern world have any room for any respect for such things any more:
    “Provided with the appropriate growing conditions, this tree can survive in relative neglect for hundreds of years. While olive trees may live to be as old as 1,500 years, the average lifespan is 500 years.”

    http://homeguides.sfgate.com/life-span-olive-trees-60048.html

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    These trees have lifespans greater than most empires and human civilizations. Some of these olive trees have been around since before Islam appeared in the Hijaz and have been generously providing for man through the Crusades, through the Mongol invasions, through the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The Qur’an takes an oath upon the olive. Does the modern world have any room for any respect for such things any more
     
    Just in case any of you were interested in how Athens got its name:

    According to Greek mythology, the creation of the olive tree was the result of a contest between Athena, Goddess of Wisdom, and Poseidon, God of the Sea, as to who would become the protector of a newly built city in Attica (the historical region of Greece). The city would then be named after the god or goddess who gave the citizens the most precious, useful and divine gift. With his trident, Poseidon struck a rock. Water rushed out of the rock, creating a spring of salty water, symbolizing his gift of sea power. Athena followed by striking a rock with her spear and produced the olive tree, an offering signifying fruitfulness and peace. The citizens (wisely) chose the gift of Athena and she forever became the patroness of the city named after her. The story of her precious gift and the recognition of its value have been carried down through the millennia. Even today, an olive tree stands where the story of this legendary competition is said to have taken place. The myth continues as a “living legend” as it is said that all the olive trees in Athens were descended from that first olive tree offered by Athena.

    https://www.oliveoilsource.com/article/mythology-101-greatest-gift
     
    , @Miro23

    "Technocracy also speeded up the world. We could get places faster, do things faster, accomplish more in a shorter time. Time, in fact, became an adversary over which technology could triumph. And this meant that there was no time to look back or to contemplate what was being lost.”
     
    I've ordered Postman's book and this is true enough. Technology and instant communication work against people actually physically meeting round a table, and it allows entertainment in a personal bubble, but on the other hand, it's also got amazing minority reach (e.g. Unz).


    why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore…and good decision making has an ethical content
     
    Who defines these ethics? Can we come to a universal agreement on them?
     
    I don't buy Darwinian "Survival of the Fittest" for humans. It more or less works for animals but humans have to organize some kind of rule based society to survive at anything other than the most basic level. Somehow you have to organize a society that allows you to buy food in a supermarket rather than go out hunting each day.

    The implications are rules, contracts, enforcement etc. and there have to be some judgments of fairness, right and wrong, and state protection behind the rules.

    In J. Storr Hall's interesting book, "Beyond AI: Creating the Conscience of the Machine" he discusses (Chapter 18 onwards), robotic/ A.I. ethics as applicable to a new hypothetical network "self", and for what it's worth, he opts for the Boy Scout Law: "One should be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent", and he sees the task as, "... building a machine that understands what these qualities mean and what can we do to ensure that the machines that are built will have them."

    https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-AI-Creating-Conscience-Machine/dp/1591025117/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1509912667&sr=1-1&keywords=AI+storrs+hall
    , @Art

    “Technocracy gave us the idea of progress, and of necessity loosened our bonds with tradition — whether political or spiritual. Technocracy filled the air with the promise o new freedoms and new forms of social organization.
     
    Tech gives the average person the "rich decease" - to much free time.

    “Idle hands are the devil’s workshop.” In our tech future there is going to be more free time.

    The middle class will be less preoccupied with the business of sustaining a living.

    Doing family things will become more important.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  • @Rurik

    My grandfather and grandmother died of disease in 1942, in the camp of Moghilev in Transnistria.
    And an uncle and aunt too. The spirit of Giraldi’s texts is the same as I find in the Romanian Nazi newspapers from 1940-1941.

     

    were the Romanian Nazis telling the truth also?

    let me ask you OJ, does it ever occur to you that maybe, just perhaps, some of the bad things that have happened to Jews throughout history, were brought on by Jewish actions?!

    If a survivor of the Holodomor were to get their hands on Kaganovich, would you blame them for exacting revenge?

    If a Palestinian who lost his home and family to the Jewish terrorists who founded Israel, were to kill some of them on the spot, perhaps the ones living in his house, for instance, would you begrudge him for it?

    Or is it a truism that for a Jew, that every act of murderous treachery they commit against others, is sanctified by their religion- and like Goldman Sachs today, are just doing 'god's work'? And that conversely, every act of righteous vengeance that's exacted upon Jews, (like Bela Kun for instance, or Trotsky)

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Leon_Trotsky.JPG

    were always the act of evil, irrational anti-Semites who hated Jews simply because they were Jewish?

    those Romanian Nazis, as you called them, probably had a choice...

    either side with the Germans, as millions of Russians and Ukrainians and Cossacks and Poles and Norwegians and others did / or suffer living (or more likely dying) under the cruel and sadistic Jews who were operating the 'gulag archipelago' in post Tsarist Russia (and Ukraine and everywhere else their demonic grip of hatred and murder was being expressed in suffering, torture and death)

    so, at some point, it becomes incumbent upon a people to start telling the truth about the lies that are responsible for so much death and misery.

    Who doubts that it is Zionist, neocon lies and treachery that have led to over a million deaths of innocent people in the Middle East in this nascent, 21st century, eh 'old Jew?

    Their lies (and hate and treachery and demonic, murderous rapine) have led to torture, mass-murder, horrific atrocities, the loss of our hard-won freedoms, going all the way back to the Magna Carta. Today their lies have resulted in moral and legal abominations like the NDAA.

    Their lies about 9/11 and Iran and Iraq and Libya and WMD and 'yellow cake' and Syria are responsible for literally incalculable suffering and horrors.

    at what point, does telling the truth about these Jewish, neocon, Zionist lies... equate to = 'making soap and lampshades', as your comment suggests?

    Jews like you have a tried and true method that they/you have been using.

    if someone tells the truth about Jewish lies and perfidy, you accuse them of being a Nazi (or pellet dropper) and wanting to make soap and lampshades out of Jews and push Ann Frank into an oven.

    This used to silence any criticism of Jewish crimes and terror, but not so much anymore. It's gotten so overused, that's it's become really quite laughable anymore.

    Just like the mass-murdering, genocidal butcher, standing there at the UN, lecturing the world's leaders on their lack of pandering to his lies, in order to slaughter Iranians and destroy their nation as well

    look at this beyond vile piece of shit, sanctimoniously glowering at the world, for not acting like they believe his lies, while the blood of thousands of Palestinian and Syrian (and so many others) men, women and children are dripping from his Jewish, gnarled murderous hands

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YllqrXMkDWo

    that's what you remind me of, Old Jew, as you attempt to equate Mr. Giraldi's honorable and courageous truth telling = to lampshades and soap

    You remind me of grotesque Bibi, sneering at the world for their lack of obeisance to his lies and Jewish, racial supremacism

    as if that genocidal mass-murderer had a shred of moral authority.

    Wow, Rurik that’s a very good analysis and, in my opinion, much closer to the truth than anything that’s being taught about this period anywhere.

    As you allude in your post, what our friend OJ leaves out of his accusation is what had lead up to the “spirit” of those 1940-1 newspapers.

    In the period after the Russian Revolution, great numbers of people in Europe had been horrified at the monstrous crimes the Bolsheviks had and were continuning to commit in Russia, the Ukraine and everywhere else in the Russian domains. And because the ring leaders of this slaughter were initially almost entirely all Jews, their communities came naturally under suspicion in European countries. This, also after attempted revolutions in Germany and Hungary in 1918/19, had again been lead by Jews. Revolutions which, if successful, were plausably believed to lead to the same slaughter the original one had in Russia.

    With the onset of the world economic depression of the 1930s, and in a direct reaction to the socialist/communist movements foisting revolution, military dictatorships arose in Europe “to deal with” the perceived states of emergency threatening the continent. What OJ’s Romanian newspapers were probably referring to, was pointing out the Jewish connection to the crazed Communist revolutionaries. Yet for all that, the initial measures which were adopted against their community had been relatively mild, considering that the revolutionaries were perceived to be the ISIS of their day. By the 30s, these were not just theoretical threats, as the Spanish Civil war, with its Soviet support, was showing.

    Being allied with Germany at the beginning of the war, Romania was not occupied by the Germans. Parts of its territories such as Transylvania were given by Germany to Hungary. In the parts which stayed under Romanian control, Jews were NOT deported but lived freely with everyone else under war time restrictions for the duration of the war (this has remained a little secret in the popular narrative of the war). The only exception was OJ’s Romanian territory of Transnistria, the present day country of Moldova I think where, following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops against Romanian troops joining the German Russia campaign, the Romanian military dictator, declared he would remove “his protective hand” from their society. Consequently, the Jews in that region were rounded put into some concentration camps, but mostly, I think, relocated onto open land, outside of towns an villages, which was indeed a great hazard for them.

    The Jewish communities in Eastern Europe were never able to entirely dispell the suspicion that they supported the Russian revolutionaries. And it was clear to all that in the event of a communist win, those communities were going to be spared the brunt of the predations which the Christian communities were going to be subject to – in fact, their members could look forward to leading positions in those Communist governments, as it later came to be.

    And so, at the onset of the war, in about 1939, as you point out in your comment, the eastern European countries didn’t have the choice between allying themselves with Stalin or with Albert Schweitzer but between Stalin and Hitler. Up until that point in time, Lenin and then Stalin had already murdered millions of people, which was an unprecedented peace-time slaughter in Europe not seen since the French Revolution, while Hitler had, in essence, “only” imposed regulations which were, more or less commensurate with a state of emergency (Only a couple of years later Roosevelt interred all the Japanese-Americans!). The Axis allies may or may not have known what Hitler would do, but they sure knew what crimes Stalin had committed already and was continuing to commit.

    Unlike the socialists/communists, the Fascists did not create totalitarian regimes upending society, but imposed “emergency measures.” Where, “upended society,” actually means that they arrested and murdered almost entirely the upper part and completely terrorized the rest of society.

    This procedure was imposed in Russia after the Revolution, and in Eastern Europe, after 1945, when the “liberating” Russian troops installed “satellite” regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews.

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    The Axis allies may or may not have known what Hitler would do, but they sure knew what crimes Stalin had committed already and was continuing to commit.
     
    LOL. Another Trump v. Killary analogy.
    , @Rurik
    Excellent analysis and summery Chris,

    you obviously know more about the evils of Bolshevism/Soviet horrors in Eastern Europe than most, certainly myself.

    thanks for the thoughtful and enlightening post

    there are real cases of anti-Semitism, it isn't always bullshit

    but when ever it does happen, it seems to me that it is always comes on reluctantly by a host people who eventually have to protect themselves from a nether-worldly murderous and genocidal hatred that threatens these people's very existence

    I suspect that if you were a Palestinian or Kulak.. a Libyan, Iraqi or a Polish intellectual at Katyn, who got to meet the NKVD / Zionists up close and personal, that you'd end up being an anti-Semite of sorts too.
    , @Old Jew
    Chris and Rurik,

    1.Chris , your description of the situation in Romania is 90% accurate. The situation of adult Jewish males in Old Romania (vechiul Regat) was perhaps paradoxically better than that of their Romanian counterparts. Jews were doing forced labor , more or less harsh. Romanian were on the front, fighting the Russians, dying or as prisoners of war (taken near Stalingrad) starving and freezing.

    Transnistria was a part of Ukraine (Soviet Union) that Hitler gave to Romania in compensation for Northern Transylvania given to Hungary. (Sept. 1940).

    Earlier (June 1940) the Soviet Union gave an ultimatum to retreat from Bessarabia (today the Country of Moldova) former a Russian territory conquered from the Ottomans (Moldavia was their vassal) and the northern half of Bukowina (included my town of birth Czernowitz) a former province of the Austrian Empire annexed by Romania in November 1918.

    The big protector of Romania was France. But in May 1940, Germans occupied Paris. Britain was fighting for is life. Romania obeyed the Russian ultimatum, and retreated in 3 day.

    The Jews of Bessarabia, and Bukowina (at least young hotheads) were happy about the liberation from those Romanian antisemites.

    On 22 June 1941 Romanians crossed the river Prut, and in about 2-3 weeks chased out the Soviets from all the lands given up in 1940, almost a year ago. If only they would have stopped there.

    For their treachery from June 1940, the Jews were punished to leave their homes (was it the 9th or 11th of October 1941) doors unlocked , hand luggage only, go to the train station and be transported to their future. After interminable train rides (military train had precedence) they were disembarked on the right bank of the river Nistru (Dniestr in Russian) , that is the border between Bessarabia
    and Ukraine and crossed by ferry into the land beyond (Transnistria). The lucky ones managed to stay in Mogylev. most were placed into columns and marched deeper deeper East all the way to the Bug (the eastern most border of Transnistria),

    A single Romanian gendarme (state trooper?) would control a column of hundreds or thousands of Jews,marching like sheep in the mud and in the cold.

    For good reason did the Sabra's despise the Yehudim Galutim (Diaspora Jews) that reached Palestine after the war. How come you did not put up a fight?

    My grandfather was a men's tailor, and my grandmother was a women's tailor. They had been good subjects of Emperor Franz Joseph, and never learned well Romanian. Everybody in Czernowitz spoke German (my mother tongue).
    It did not much the Romanian National mythos, of Bukowina chaffing under the alien (Austrian) yoke and dreaming of the return to Moldavia.

    Good Oestereicher, with ingrained respect for Authority, my grandparents showed up at the train station in October 1941. What fight ? what resistance?

    And in 1942 they died a month apart of typhus.
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  • @helena
    Could we draw a line in the sand between studying accurate history through reading contemporary documents, and appropriating symbols?

    studying accurate history through reading contemporary documents, and appropriating symbols?

    what does that mean?

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  • @Miro23

    This is especially important for me as to the case of Jerome Powell and looming appointment to Fed Reserve Chairman. Why would President Bonespur * pick a non-Jew for such a time honored ritual (marquee) position?
     
    In a Pump & Dump scam, you put your friends in charge of the Pump phase and your enemies in charge of Dump phase. You get the profits and the praise, and they get the loses and the blame.

    “… a Pump and Dump scam.”

    Above, a terrific plain spoken insight which even a Qumran Caveman could understand.

    I agree and THANK YOU VERY much, Miro23!

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  • @Millennial
    My comments (directed at earlier commenters that did not include you), were, in fact, relevant to the subject at hand - chiefly because there remains a cottage industry of commentators (Moldbuggists, professional Celtic/Southron victims, Jews) who specifically, and incorrectly, blame "Puritans" "Yankees" "Calvinists" etc for the state of the modern West (incl. the pandering to Israel).

    "Hollywood's demoralizing..."

    Kevin Spacey and his ilk would be right at home in the Elizabethan/Jacobean theatre scene (when both adult men and young boys were groomed to play female roles). "Puritans" specifically targeted theatre for its institutionalized pedophilia, homosexuality, and other such things. The UK crown, in this era, was an ally of the thespians (See also - Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew).

    "stage plays, the common idol and prevailing evil of our dissolute and degenerous age....He that speaks against them... is forthwith branded for a schismatical or factious Puritan. And if any one assay to alter or suppress them, he becomes so odious unto many... Whereas such who further these delights of sin are highly magnified, as the chief contrivers of the public happiness."

    -William Prynne, 1633

    (Zigh)

    “(inclu. the pandering to Israel) Kevin Spacey, J. Epstein and Prince Andrew)

    Millenial,

    Now you helped me make connection as to your U.R. comment offering goal.

    THANK you.

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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    Have to disagree, WW2 is not ancient history and the myth of the “Good War”, while not exclusively central to current events, is nonetheless an important part of that intellectual bodyguard and must be constantly challenged.

    Could we draw a line in the sand between studying accurate history through reading contemporary documents, and appropriating symbols?

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    what does that mean?
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  • @RobinG
    But, but, Geo....

    That Israel struck first in 1967 is well established. For instance, see Miko Peled's book, The General's Son, for which he researched Israeli military archives.

    However, the US pre-approval and encouragement of the attack is more of a revelation. Not surprising, perhaps, but disgusting. [NB - the facts were in plain sight, but ignored, virtually erased by Zionist propaganda.] One might ask, wouldn't the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light? But, as it stands, the episode reinforces the argument that Israel is America's cat's paw for nefarious activity in the ME.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed? Are such inconvenient facts used for mutual blackmail? We oppose Israeli influence on our FP, but both countries are dependent on a military economy.

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it's the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    Agree!

    I’m grateful to you, RobinG, for introducing me to Alison Weir and her work.

    Alison’s organization, If Americans Knew, sent out this email recently:

    On November 2nd, the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration, AL-Mayadeen TV – the satellite TV news station headquartered in Beirut, Lebanon – interviewed Alison Weir at length about the U.S. connection to the declaration.

    The interview, dubbed in Arabic, will be re-broadcast on Monday at 13:30 & Tuesday at 03:30 and 08:30 (Lebanon time). It will be possible to view this by tuning in to http://www.almayadeen.net.

    The information Alison discussed – which explains that Zionists obtained the Balfour Declaration by promising they would push the U.S. into “the Great War” if the British would promise to facilitate their Zionist colonization of Palestine – is included in her book and recent article — at the link below.)

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/wrote-balfour-declaration-world-war-connection/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=506d7ab8-cf5e-40f2-b135-f8e1cbfde0ee

    The article traces the imminent establishment of Israel to events in WWI, and names several Jewish persons as well as the American and British politicians who were induced, by ignoble means and at the cost of millions of lives, to bring that about.

    The word “imminent” is used to signify the events in the midst of WWI — around 1917– by which zionists gained the protection of a superpower for its project.

    But by that time, Jews had already claimed major tracts of territory in Palestine, built TelAviv, dispossessed Palestinian Arabs, and aided thousands of East European Jews to migrate to Palestine.

    The claim that “Israel was established because of the Holocaust” is, um, chronologically challenged: those events/topics — zionism, the World Wars, Versailles, Weimar, the intense efforts to ‘ingather” Jews from the diaspora that took place in the 1930s, the destruction of Germany, the migration of Jews to Palestine AND to USA — some of it coerced by zionist leaders — must be understood together, interacting in tandem, not as discrete and unrelated events.

    The reproductive boom among East European Jews in the mid- to late-1800s; the emergence of zionism in Russia in the 1880s; the relationship of those two factors to mass Jewish migration to Germany and to Bolshevism — all these and more should be understood in order “to revise . . . the mythical story of Israel . . .from beginning to end.”

    (My argument about Holocaust is a maximalist one: the ordained narrative is too uniform, too cant; has too many failures of logic, and omits too many crucial and rock-solid facts. I think The Holocaust dogma is a red herring construct. The energy with which that false narrative is protected strongly suggests that something truly damning is concealed behind those lies. People all over the world are peeling away the layers of that false construct and assembling a ‘theory of the crime’ that is more in touch with reality. That will continue inexorably.

    Jews — and their gentile enablers– are very foolish to continue to disseminate –and to believe! — those lies; better to come clean, make amends, and join the civilized world.)

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Brother Nathanael,

    I am very pleased to see another appearance here at the U.R.

    I do not know precisely what is a "Sabbath Goy" and one's being invited to the Bar Mitzvah.

    This is especially important for me as to the case of Jerome Powell and looming appointment to Fed Reserve Chairman. Why would President Bonespur * pick a non-Jew for such a time honored ritual (marquee) position?

    Thank you and God bless you.

    * Thanks to J. St. Clair for coining "President Bonespur."

    This is especially important for me as to the case of Jerome Powell and looming appointment to Fed Reserve Chairman. Why would President Bonespur * pick a non-Jew for such a time honored ritual (marquee) position?

    In a Pump & Dump scam, you put your friends in charge of the Pump phase and your enemies in charge of Dump phase. You get the profits and the praise, and they get the loses and the blame.

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    "... a Pump and Dump scam."

    Above, a terrific plain spoken insight which even a Qumran Caveman could understand.

    I agree and THANK YOU VERY much, Miro23!
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  • @Talha
    Hey Art,

    It is unfair to ask – but how does this lead to ISIS.
     
    I consider it a fair question actually. It's something I have pondered about as well. My guess is that many of these people are simply not interested in this part of Islam nor looking at it holistically. They concentrate on the verses that seem to justify what they want to do and simply ignore the scholars (and the consensus of the past generations) who tell them that this is not allowed.

    Extremist strains are a part of historic Islam and will likely remain so. They split with the majority and go their own way. The Prophet (pbuh) warned us:
    “O people, beware of extremism in religion for those who came before you were only destroyed because of extremism in religion.” - reported in Ibn Majah

    He also warned us from becoming those that are concerned with the outward and do not absorb guidance in the core of our spirits:
    "There will be dissension and division in my nation and a people will come with beautiful words but evil deeds. They recite the Quran but it will not pass beyond their throats. They will leave the religion as an arrow leaves its target and they will not return until the arrows returns to its notch. They are the worst of the creation." - reported in Abu Dawud

    The great exegete, Imam Ibn Kathir (ra), wrote about the first group of extremists (the Khawarij who killed Companions [ra] without a second thought):
    "If the Khawarij ever gained power, they would corrupt the entire earth, Iraq, and Syria. They would not leave a boy or a girl or a man or a woman, for in their view the people have become so corrupt that they cannot be reformed except by mass killing."

    I hope we are done with this ISIS business - at least for my lifetime.


    does the deep emotional, spiritual, and communal nature of these prayers lead to or trigger other strong feelings?
     
    It should, especially during the nights of Ramadan - many tears flow.

    is being so emotionally close to the mystery of God, debilitating?
     
    Yes - it should debilitate people from sinning and vice; such as running over innocent people with trucks and doing so in His blessed name.

    Do the heartfelt words “God willing” hold back the Muslim peoples from entering modernity?
     
    This is a good question. My personal feeling is that, I would hope that we are held back from running into the arms of Modernity and its step-child Post-Modernity. Adopting technology and tools with caution is all fine, but Post-modernity is a mindset. And I'm not so sure it is the healthiest of mindsets. Keep in mind, the distilled message of those early poetic chapters of the Qur'an is:
    Mankind, do not let the world distract you from your purpose; you will certainly meet your Lord, so take action to make sure it is a Day of joy and honor and not one of humiliation and regret

    All the rest is details.

    Will (post)Modernity make us lose our connection with God as it has for others? Has any Modern society escaped this trend? If so, what good is it?

    I can only speak for myself based on what I have observed over the years; it seems Modernity has a place for humans, but I am unsure it has room for man.

    Peace.

    I can only speak for myself based on what I have observed over the years; it seems Modernity has a place for humans, but I am unsure it has room for man.

    Modernity/Technology isn’t going into reverse gear. If anything it’s going to speed up, but this isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

    Assuming that the trend continues, and computing/automation take over ever larger slices of human activity, why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore.

    After all, machines are now entering the realm of decision making, and good decision making has an ethical content (despite current anti-normative arguments).

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    Hey Miro23,

    Good stuff...


    Modernity/Technology isn’t going into reverse gear.
     
    Barring a massive solar flare that puts us back into the 18th century - you are probably correct. Have you read Brave New World?

    isn’t necessarily a bad thing
     
    Not necessarily, but quite possible. Thus far, those societies that have adopted "technology" as the apex of their culture haven't thought about what they have lost. My earnest advice, please read this book:
    "Tools are not integrated into the culture; they attack the culture. They bid to become the culture. As a consequence, tradition, social mores, myth, politics, ritual, and religion have to fight for their lives."
    "Technocracy gave us the idea of progress, and of necessity loosened our bonds with tradition — whether political or spiritual. Technocracy filled the air with the promise o new freedoms and new forms of social organization. Technocracy also speeded up the world. We could get places faster, do things faster, accomplish more in a shorter time. Time, in fact, became an adversary over which technology could triumph. And this meant that there was no time to look back or to contemplate what was being lost."
    https://vialogue.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/technopoly-notes-review/
    http://www.scottlondon.com/reviews/postman.html

    why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore...and good decision making has an ethical content
     
    Who defines these ethics? Can we come to a universal agreement on them? What is the basis for ethics in the post-modernism world when it has spent so much effort in deconstructing any of the other ethical traditions. For instance (bringing it back to the topic at hand - hat tip to Chuck), one of the claims of the Zionists that they bring to the West is couched in the terms of "efficiency" and the redefining of "human rights":
    We turned the desert into a prosperous country, the olive groves* of the Palestinians must be removed for progress, if they ever take over they won't allow gay people to hold parades in Jerusalem because it is a "holy" city, etc.

    Darwinian selectivity ("survival of the fittest") can be used to frame ethics - plenty of people on these forum do it. Is it any more immoral for an African tribe to wipe out, say, the pygmies (if it can be proven empirically that one is genetically superior in all aspects) than for one type of boar to eliminate another set of bboars by driving them away from a watering hole? Why? The fittest boars or humans survive - makes no sense to shed tears over genetic dead waste any more that it does to shed tears over the mastodon. This is progress after all.

    Peace.

    *These trees have lifespans greater than most empires and human civilizations. Some of these olive trees have been around since before Islam appeared in the Hijaz and have been generously providing for man through the Crusades, through the Mongol invasions, through the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The Qur'an takes an oath upon the olive. Does the modern world have any room for any respect for such things any more:
    "Provided with the appropriate growing conditions, this tree can survive in relative neglect for hundreds of years. While olive trees may live to be as old as 1,500 years, the average lifespan is 500 years."
    http://homeguides.sfgate.com/life-span-olive-trees-60048.html

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  • @Avery
    {Rand Paul puckered up with Netanyahu....}


    Hapless Rand was savaged by the Neocon peanut gallery for not sucking up to Nutsoyeyhoo enthusiastically enough.

    https://www.mrctv.org/blog/rand-paul-responds-criticism-his-slow-clapping-netanyahu-s-speech
    [Paul was asked about National Review’s criticism of the “slow clap” on Fox and Friends].

    And of course the US Senator from Kentucky had to scrape and bow and lick Neocon boots to be allowed to live another day as a bootlicker.

    [“You have these gossipy websites who really demean themselves by putting stuff like that out,” Paul said. “I gave the Prime Minister 50 standing ovations, I co-sponsored bringing him here…”]


    This is what Americans have been degraded to.
    The proud American people who defeated the greatest world military power of its time have been reduced to bowing to a foreign leader whose country only exists thanks to America and the largess of the overtaxed and abused American taxpayer.

    And of course the US Senator from Kentucky had to scrape and bow and lick Neocon boots to be allowed to live another day as a bootlicker.

    [“You have these gossipy websites who really demean themselves by putting stuff like that out,” Paul said. “I gave the Prime Minister 50 standing ovations, I co-sponsored bringing him here…”]

    This is what Americans have been degraded to.
    The proud American people who defeated the greatest world military power of its time have been reduced to bowing to a foreign leader whose country only exists thanks to America and the largess of the overtaxed and abused American taxpayer.

    Absolute power requires bowing and scraping – there’s nothing Democratic about it. And, it doesn’t matter whether it’s Louis XIV , the medieval Church or the Bolsheviks – absolute power hunts down “heretics”.

    In fact, the US Jewish Nomenklatura hasn’t quite got there yet ( although they tried for it on 9/11), and had another setback with the defeat of their latest Facade Goy, Hilary Clinton. But if they do get absolute power, the outcome isn’t difficult to predict. The US gets a permanent upper class (with a detailed explanation of their natural right to that position) along with Political Correctness trails, mass detentions and strictly enforced speech codes.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Hey Cloak And Dagger,

    I really did not enjoy intervening with "Millenial" having gone so off course with the article topic.

    His/Her screen name "Millenial" suggests youth and at minimum ought to be (at least) accredited for thinking about "has been" religious worldviews and lingering effects.

    (Zigh) Millenials do tend to get worse and open themselves up to Hollywood's demoralizing (im-Puritan) socialization system.

    (Zigh) I doubt he/she even looked at the truth-telling flag pictures which correspond to P. Giraldi's important topic.

    (Zigh) There are just puppeteers anymore and their puppets.

    The "pandering" to The Lobby is all that is..., what makes ZUSA tick, tic.

    Awareness and "sticking together" is the hand we're dealt and I am in.

    Thank you, C&D... very cool name!

    My comments (directed at earlier commenters that did not include you), were, in fact, relevant to the subject at hand – chiefly because there remains a cottage industry of commentators (Moldbuggists, professional Celtic/Southron victims, Jews) who specifically, and incorrectly, blame “Puritans” “Yankees” “Calvinists” etc for the state of the modern West (incl. the pandering to Israel).

    “Hollywood’s demoralizing…”

    Kevin Spacey and his ilk would be right at home in the Elizabethan/Jacobean theatre scene (when both adult men and young boys were groomed to play female roles). “Puritans” specifically targeted theatre for its institutionalized pedophilia, homosexuality, and other such things. The UK crown, in this era, was an ally of the thespians (See also – Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew).

    “stage plays, the common idol and prevailing evil of our dissolute and degenerous age….He that speaks against them… is forthwith branded for a schismatical or factious Puritan. And if any one assay to alter or suppress them, he becomes so odious unto many… Whereas such who further these delights of sin are highly magnified, as the chief contrivers of the public happiness.”

    -William Prynne, 1633

    (Zigh)

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    "(inclu. the pandering to Israel) Kevin Spacey, J. Epstein and Prince Andrew)


    Millenial,

    Now you helped me make connection as to your U.R. comment offering goal.

    THANK you.
    , @Anon
    Absolutely. The Jews all by their lonesome seized control of the country and do whatever they feel like.

    Where's iffen when you need him?
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  • @RobinG
    Great point, Art:

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.
     
    That's why I'm so skeptical of S2C, Wally, et al insisting on dwelling there.

    In addition (and contrast) to the word lies you listed, (Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, etc.) there's another set of lies: Land w/o people for a people w/o land, ...democracy, Jewish (one can argue, as Miko Peled does, that Israel embodies no real Jewish values, and most Jews choose not to live there).

    "We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews." Agreed.

    Have to disagree, WW2 is not ancient history and the myth of the “Good War”, while not exclusively central to current events, is nonetheless an important part of that intellectual bodyguard and must be constantly challenged.

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    • Replies: @helena
    Could we draw a line in the sand between studying accurate history through reading contemporary documents, and appropriating symbols?
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.

    Thank you.

    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.

    Hear Hear — If the Jews were on their heels having to defend what they are doing today – S2C’s worthy task would be attainable.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @Art
    If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    RobinG,

    Israel hides behind a series of word lies.

    Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, blood libel, WWII. Each of those words encapsulate lies – they are a gross exaggeration of the truth.

    When those words are used “victim Jew” is subconsciously regurgitated. In the Western mind when WWII is brought up, it is automatic, _Victim JEWS_ comes to mind.

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.

    We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews.

    That battle we can win. “That truth will set us free.”

    Think Peace --- Art

    Hey Art,

    Guarantee smart and dedicated Palestinian warriors know the importance of Dumb Goyim perpetual ingestion & digestion of distorted WW 1 / 2 history is to Zionist Jews!

    Remember the mysterious airplane crash involving V.I.P.’s who were curious to learn more about the Katyn Forest mass murders? That’s ho-hum Pole history, eh?

    Perhaps S2C knows what’s what regarding the above travesty, and respectfully, I am not about to try & provoke him to do so. Let him be and learn.

    Thank you, Art.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.

    Thank you.

    Fully agree. A lot of the current conundrum that we find ourselves in has its origin in the Holocaust myth and the exploitations thereof, by the likes of Ellie Wiesel, et. al. In order for the current narrative to be destroyed, the original hoax has to be destroyed from its nascence. This is a good start:

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.

    Thank you.

    S2C is an invaluable asset to this board. He has the makings of a great Secretary of State. We can dream can’t we?

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  • @RobinG
    Great point, Art:

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.
     
    That's why I'm so skeptical of S2C, Wally, et al insisting on dwelling there.

    In addition (and contrast) to the word lies you listed, (Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, etc.) there's another set of lies: Land w/o people for a people w/o land, ...democracy, Jewish (one can argue, as Miko Peled does, that Israel embodies no real Jewish values, and most Jews choose not to live there).

    "We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews." Agreed.

    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.

    Thank you.

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    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    S2C is an invaluable asset to this board. He has the makings of a great Secretary of State. We can dream can’t we?
    , @Cloak And Dagger
    Fully agree. A lot of the current conundrum that we find ourselves in has its origin in the Holocaust myth and the exploitations thereof, by the likes of Ellie Wiesel, et. al. In order for the current narrative to be destroyed, the original hoax has to be destroyed from its nascence. This is a good start:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc_cRTc62MQ
    , @Art

    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.
     
    Hear Hear --- If the Jews were on their heels having to defend what they are doing today - S2C's worthy task would be attainable.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  • @Cloak And Dagger
    Indeed. Can we go back to discussing how to get all this Israeli pandering to stop? I am hoping that all the sexual perversion exposure that is bringing the Hollywood jewish power brokers in Hollywood down, extends to bring down similar power brokers in our government.

    Hey Cloak And Dagger,

    I really did not enjoy intervening with “Millenial” having gone so off course with the article topic.

    His/Her screen name “Millenial” suggests youth and at minimum ought to be (at least) accredited for thinking about “has been” religious worldviews and lingering effects.

    (Zigh) Millenials do tend to get worse and open themselves up to Hollywood’s demoralizing (im-Puritan) socialization system.

    (Zigh) I doubt he/she even looked at the truth-telling flag pictures which correspond to P. Giraldi’s important topic.

    (Zigh) There are just puppeteers anymore and their puppets.

    The “pandering” to The Lobby is all that is…, what makes ZUSA tick, tic.

    Awareness and “sticking together” is the hand we’re dealt and I am in.

    Thank you, C&D… very cool name!

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    My comments (directed at earlier commenters that did not include you), were, in fact, relevant to the subject at hand - chiefly because there remains a cottage industry of commentators (Moldbuggists, professional Celtic/Southron victims, Jews) who specifically, and incorrectly, blame "Puritans" "Yankees" "Calvinists" etc for the state of the modern West (incl. the pandering to Israel).

    "Hollywood's demoralizing..."

    Kevin Spacey and his ilk would be right at home in the Elizabethan/Jacobean theatre scene (when both adult men and young boys were groomed to play female roles). "Puritans" specifically targeted theatre for its institutionalized pedophilia, homosexuality, and other such things. The UK crown, in this era, was an ally of the thespians (See also - Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew).

    "stage plays, the common idol and prevailing evil of our dissolute and degenerous age....He that speaks against them... is forthwith branded for a schismatical or factious Puritan. And if any one assay to alter or suppress them, he becomes so odious unto many... Whereas such who further these delights of sin are highly magnified, as the chief contrivers of the public happiness."

    -William Prynne, 1633

    (Zigh)
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  • @Art
    If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    RobinG,

    Israel hides behind a series of word lies.

    Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, blood libel, WWII. Each of those words encapsulate lies – they are a gross exaggeration of the truth.

    When those words are used “victim Jew” is subconsciously regurgitated. In the Western mind when WWII is brought up, it is automatic, _Victim JEWS_ comes to mind.

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.

    We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews.

    That battle we can win. “That truth will set us free.”

    Think Peace --- Art

    Great point, Art:

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.

    That’s why I’m so skeptical of S2C, Wally, et al insisting on dwelling there.

    In addition (and contrast) to the word lies you listed, (Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, etc.) there’s another set of lies: Land w/o people for a people w/o land, …democracy, Jewish (one can argue, as Miko Peled does, that Israel embodies no real Jewish values, and most Jews choose not to live there).

    “We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews.” Agreed.

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    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.

    Thank you.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Have to disagree, WW2 is not ancient history and the myth of the “Good War”, while not exclusively central to current events, is nonetheless an important part of that intellectual bodyguard and must be constantly challenged.
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  • @RobinG
    Hi Art,

    At 29min: ".....we discovered [the Israelis] have nuclear landmines seeded on the Golan Heights."

    This interview from July, 1991, is laced with bombshells: the US pre-approved Israel's FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967 and their invasion of Lebanon in '82; Israel's role in arms sales to Iran; Mossad involvement in Honduras; etc., etc.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?20968-1/dangerous-liaisons

    "The husband-and-wife team of Andrew and Leslie Cockburn discussed their experiences researching their book Dangerous Liaisons, which details collaboration between Israeli intelligence and the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies. They amassed documentation from U.S. and Israeli intelligence sources, Israeli press reports, interviews and Hebrew documents."

    At 29min: “…..we discovered [the Israelis] have nuclear landmines seeded on the Golan Heights.”

    This interview from July, 1991, is laced with bombshells: the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967 and their invasion of Lebanon in ’82; Israel’s role in arms sales to Iran; Mossad involvement in Honduras; etc., etc.

    RobinG,

    Holding Israel accountable for their nukes is an easy win – they cannot defend themselves. Charging “anti-Semite” does not wash. It puts their evil defensive tactics front and center.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @RobinG
    But, but, Geo....

    That Israel struck first in 1967 is well established. For instance, see Miko Peled's book, The General's Son, for which he researched Israeli military archives.

    However, the US pre-approval and encouragement of the attack is more of a revelation. Not surprising, perhaps, but disgusting. [NB - the facts were in plain sight, but ignored, virtually erased by Zionist propaganda.] One might ask, wouldn't the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light? But, as it stands, the episode reinforces the argument that Israel is America's cat's paw for nefarious activity in the ME.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed? Are such inconvenient facts used for mutual blackmail? We oppose Israeli influence on our FP, but both countries are dependent on a military economy.

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it's the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    RobinG,

    Israel hides behind a series of word lies.

    Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, blood libel, WWII. Each of those words encapsulate lies – they are a gross exaggeration of the truth.

    When those words are used “victim Jew” is subconsciously regurgitated. In the Western mind when WWII is brought up, it is automatic, _Victim JEWS_ comes to mind.

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.

    We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews.

    That battle we can win. “That truth will set us free.”

    Think Peace — Art

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    Great point, Art:

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.
     
    That's why I'm so skeptical of S2C, Wally, et al insisting on dwelling there.

    In addition (and contrast) to the word lies you listed, (Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, etc.) there's another set of lies: Land w/o people for a people w/o land, ...democracy, Jewish (one can argue, as Miko Peled does, that Israel embodies no real Jewish values, and most Jews choose not to live there).

    "We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews." Agreed.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Hey Art,

    Guarantee smart and dedicated Palestinian warriors know the importance of Dumb Goyim perpetual ingestion & digestion of distorted WW 1 / 2 history is to Zionist Jews!

    Remember the mysterious airplane crash involving V.I.P.'s who were curious to learn more about the Katyn Forest mass murders? That's ho-hum Pole history, eh?

    Perhaps S2C knows what's what regarding the above travesty, and respectfully, I am not about to try & provoke him to do so. Let him be and learn.

    Thank you, Art.
    , @Incitatus

    “We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world…”
     
    Good advice Art.

    Wonder why S2C, Beefcake, Rurik and others have WW1-WW2 Germany-on-the-brain disease? Few (if any) suggestions on dropping ‘passionate attachments’, reigning in Likud or improving Palestinian life? No vision of any hopeful ME future? No acquaintance with Pals? Just rage vented at Jews that always seems designed to exonerate odious war crimes?

    Here’s todays example:

    “Whites can be some really dumb shitz at times. To this day, most revile one of their finest, Herr Hitler, and Mr Buchanan should understand that.”
    - Jaques/Jacques Sheet 5 Nov 17 #26
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/their-america-and-ours/
     
    Don’t know about you Art, but I have family that fought the “finest”. Cousins injured and imprisoned by him. Don’t recall them letting perfumed farts for the Führer.

    Have any remarked on our NSA giving American-Palestinian citizens’ Metadata to Israel, allowing blackmail in Gaza and the West Bank? We don’t do it for any other ally. Indeed, it’s probably unconstitutional.

    Could it be because Planet Germania doesn’t care about Palestinians? They’re breathless for a Fourth Reich? Getting up a lynch mob here would be a good beginning. Whad’ya think?

    Kati Marton’s ‘Death in Jerusalem’ might interest you. Yehoshua Cohen’s murder of (unarmed) UN envoy Folke Bernadotte and André Sérot. History more relevant than the Nazi echo-chamber.

    Remember. Hate the sin, love the sinner.
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  • @Rurik (from another location)

    the Big Jews have major financial correction on their mind (within years) – and they do not want a Jew to take responsibility for the crash
     
    the bubble will pop

    they have stocks trading at prices exponentially inflated over the value of these companies

    it is madness what's going on with the market, and the correction will come, it's just a matter of when


    The result will be that they will take private ownership of many mega large US corporations.
     
    and why not?

    they did it with the Great Depression, (the Bernank admitted this), and they did it with the 2008 crash, and the solution our government decided upon was to give the swindlers responsible hundreds of billions of dollars in bailouts. The Fed is still buying their toxic debts from all those CDSs, synthetic derivatives and sub-prime liar loans. It was an orgy of greed and the greatest theft of wealth in history. And it went from the working and middle class, from the pensioners and public pensions, all into the pocket of the .01% and their assorted congressional and media whores.

    If it worked that well last time, then why on earth wouldn't they do it all again?

    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

    TJ (and others like Ron Paul and Ayn Rand) tried to warn us

    Peace

    The Fed is still buying their toxic debts from all those CDSs, synthetic derivatives and sub-prime liar loans. It was an orgy of greed and the greatest theft of wealth in history.

    The Rothschilds have been doing this for centuries. They have so much actually money that only governments are big enough to be their customers. They are notorious for financing both sides of a war. Such a deal! Those Jews are clever. They know how to manipulate money and screw everyone.

    Without a doubt, that family of Jews has caused great hardship in this world.

    Block-chain tech can now create money for growth and exchange – that will mean the end of the evil Rothschild central banking system of manipulated debt.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • Better to have the Jews in Israel than Brighton Beach or next door to you.

    They will not fight to win, because being hated and killed keeps the group together.

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  • @RobinG
    But, but, Geo....

    That Israel struck first in 1967 is well established. For instance, see Miko Peled's book, The General's Son, for which he researched Israeli military archives.

    However, the US pre-approval and encouragement of the attack is more of a revelation. Not surprising, perhaps, but disgusting. [NB - the facts were in plain sight, but ignored, virtually erased by Zionist propaganda.] One might ask, wouldn't the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light? But, as it stands, the episode reinforces the argument that Israel is America's cat's paw for nefarious activity in the ME.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed? Are such inconvenient facts used for mutual blackmail? We oppose Israeli influence on our FP, but both countries are dependent on a military economy.

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it's the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    One might ask, wouldn’t the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light?

    Let’s recall that the ’67 War was a mere decade after the Suez Crisis in which the Israelis (along with the French and British) had their knuckles rapped by Eisenhower who had warned them not to invade. I think it’s safe to say that the days of a strong president like Ike are long gone.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed?

    When you have many of the republican candidates for president line up to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson (whose one issue is Israel), I’m I the only one who’s prepared to go out on a limb and say who is the puppet and who is the puppeteer in the “special relationship”?

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/24/gop-contenders-gather-at-sheldon-adelson-primary-in-vegas/

    Bottom Line: unfortunately, things have indeed changed since the days of Ike.

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  • @Anon

    Sorry. They do. There’s no link from Ishtar to Eostre. “Easter” is an adaptation of “Eostre”, not “Ishtar”. The two mythologies are too far apart. Sorry.
     
    Yes, I know. Did you read the article?

    Xtians
     
    Xians. Jesus Christ, not Jesus Chris.

    I shouldn’t go off on so many tangents.
     
    Eh, it makes life more interesting.

    Xtians

    Xians. Jesus Christ, not Jesus Chris.

    Damn! You’re right. I hate when that happens.

    Considering how pissed-off the Xians get when you call ‘em Xtians, I can only imagine the white-hot fury of those-who-will-not-be-called-Xians. But, thanks for the tip. ;-)

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  • @geokat62

    ...the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967...
     
    But, but, Robin, Sam Shama assured us Dumb Goyim that the '67 war was started by Nasser, he even has the polls to prove it.

    P.S. Thanks for sharing that clip, very informative.

    But, but, Geo….

    That Israel struck first in 1967 is well established. For instance, see Miko Peled’s book, The General’s Son, for which he researched Israeli military archives.

    However, the US pre-approval and encouragement of the attack is more of a revelation. Not surprising, perhaps, but disgusting. [NB - the facts were in plain sight, but ignored, virtually erased by Zionist propaganda.] One might ask, wouldn’t the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light? But, as it stands, the episode reinforces the argument that Israel is America’s cat’s paw for nefarious activity in the ME.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed? Are such inconvenient facts used for mutual blackmail? We oppose Israeli influence on our FP, but both countries are dependent on a military economy.

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

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    One might ask, wouldn’t the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light?
     
    Let's recall that the '67 War was a mere decade after the Suez Crisis in which the Israelis (along with the French and British) had their knuckles rapped by Eisenhower who had warned them not to invade. I think it's safe to say that the days of a strong president like Ike are long gone.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed?
     
    When you have many of the republican candidates for president line up to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson (whose one issue is Israel), I'm I the only one who's prepared to go out on a limb and say who is the puppet and who is the puppeteer in the "special relationship"?

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/24/gop-contenders-gather-at-sheldon-adelson-primary-in-vegas/

    Bottom Line: unfortunately, things have indeed changed since the days of Ike.
    , @Art
    If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    RobinG,

    Israel hides behind a series of word lies.

    Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, blood libel, WWII. Each of those words encapsulate lies – they are a gross exaggeration of the truth.

    When those words are used “victim Jew” is subconsciously regurgitated. In the Western mind when WWII is brought up, it is automatic, _Victim JEWS_ comes to mind.

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.

    We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews.

    That battle we can win. “That truth will set us free.”

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @SolontoCroesus

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.
     
    Agree!

    I'm grateful to you, RobinG, for introducing me to Alison Weir and her work.

    Alison's organization, If Americans Knew, sent out this email recently:

    On November 2nd, the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration, AL-Mayadeen TV – the satellite TV news station headquartered in Beirut, Lebanon – interviewed Alison Weir at length about the U.S. connection to the declaration.

    The interview, dubbed in Arabic, will be re-broadcast on Monday at 13:30 & Tuesday at 03:30 and 08:30 (Lebanon time). It will be possible to view this by tuning in to www.almayadeen.net.

    The information Alison discussed – which explains that Zionists obtained the Balfour Declaration by promising they would push the U.S. into "the Great War" if the British would promise to facilitate their Zionist colonization of Palestine – is included in her book and recent article -- at the link below.)

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/wrote-balfour-declaration-world-war-connection/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=506d7ab8-cf5e-40f2-b135-f8e1cbfde0ee
     
    The article traces the imminent establishment of Israel to events in WWI, and names several Jewish persons as well as the American and British politicians who were induced, by ignoble means and at the cost of millions of lives, to bring that about.

    The word "imminent" is used to signify the events in the midst of WWI -- around 1917-- by which zionists gained the protection of a superpower for its project.

    But by that time, Jews had already claimed major tracts of territory in Palestine, built TelAviv, dispossessed Palestinian Arabs, and aided thousands of East European Jews to migrate to Palestine.

    The claim that "Israel was established because of the Holocaust" is, um, chronologically challenged: those events/topics -- zionism, the World Wars, Versailles, Weimar, the intense efforts to 'ingather" Jews from the diaspora that took place in the 1930s, the destruction of Germany, the migration of Jews to Palestine AND to USA -- some of it coerced by zionist leaders -- must be understood together, interacting in tandem, not as discrete and unrelated events.



    The reproductive boom among East European Jews in the mid- to late-1800s; the emergence of zionism in Russia in the 1880s; the relationship of those two factors to mass Jewish migration to Germany and to Bolshevism -- all these and more should be understood in order "to revise . . . the mythical story of Israel . . .from beginning to end."

    (My argument about Holocaust is a maximalist one: the ordained narrative is too uniform, too cant; has too many failures of logic, and omits too many crucial and rock-solid facts. I think The Holocaust dogma is a red herring construct. The energy with which that false narrative is protected strongly suggests that something truly damning is concealed behind those lies. People all over the world are peeling away the layers of that false construct and assembling a 'theory of the crime' that is more in touch with reality. That will continue inexorably.

    Jews -- and their gentile enablers-- are very foolish to continue to disseminate --and to believe! -- those lies; better to come clean, make amends, and join the civilized world.)
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  • @Art

    goys like Jerome Powell

    I do wonder what he bodes for this country and beyond
     
    Don’t think for a minute that Trump made this decision on his own – he got a Big Jew bankster OK.

    Me thinks the Big Jews have major financial correction on their mind (within years) – and they do not want a Jew to take responsibility for the crash.

    The result will be that they will take private ownership of many mega large US corporations.

    Their US dollar is losing its attraction and value – block-chain is rising – they intend to swap their dollar holdings into actual ownership of production on the cheap.

    Think Peace --- Art

    the Big Jews have major financial correction on their mind (within years) – and they do not want a Jew to take responsibility for the crash

    the bubble will pop

    they have stocks trading at prices exponentially inflated over the value of these companies

    it is madness what’s going on with the market, and the correction will come, it’s just a matter of when

    The result will be that they will take private ownership of many mega large US corporations.

    and why not?

    they did it with the Great Depression, (the Bernank admitted this), and they did it with the 2008 crash, and the solution our government decided upon was to give the swindlers responsible hundreds of billions of dollars in bailouts. The Fed is still buying their toxic debts from all those CDSs, synthetic derivatives and sub-prime liar loans. It was an orgy of greed and the greatest theft of wealth in history. And it went from the working and middle class, from the pensioners and public pensions, all into the pocket of the .01% and their assorted congressional and media whores.

    If it worked that well last time, then why on earth wouldn’t they do it all again?

    “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered…. I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”

    TJ (and others like Ron Paul and Ayn Rand) tried to warn us

    Peace

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    The Fed is still buying their toxic debts from all those CDSs, synthetic derivatives and sub-prime liar loans. It was an orgy of greed and the greatest theft of wealth in history.

    The Rothschilds have been doing this for centuries. They have so much actually money that only governments are big enough to be their customers. They are notorious for financing both sides of a war. Such a deal! Those Jews are clever. They know how to manipulate money and screw everyone.

    Without a doubt, that family of Jews has caused great hardship in this world.

    Block-chain tech can now create money for growth and exchange – that will mean the end of the evil Rothschild central banking system of manipulated debt.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @jacques sheete

    The result will be that they will take private ownership of many mega large US corporations.
     
    So true.

    That's what was behind Teddy Roosevelt's "trust busting" too. Only certain trusts were targeted and guess which ones went Scot free.
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    (Zigh)

    Hard to swallow how P.G.'s important article comments have descended into "Puritans and other O.T. reading Europeans, French Huguenots and Dutch Calvinists military innovators."

    Selah Anti-Sexual Harrassment Training for Lobbyotimized Congress, Find the Cost of Freedom, & Honor "The Decider" Dubya' at West Point!

    Indeed. Can we go back to discussing how to get all this Israeli pandering to stop? I am hoping that all the sexual perversion exposure that is bringing the Hollywood jewish power brokers in Hollywood down, extends to bring down similar power brokers in our government.

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    Hey Cloak And Dagger,

    I really did not enjoy intervening with "Millenial" having gone so off course with the article topic.

    His/Her screen name "Millenial" suggests youth and at minimum ought to be (at least) accredited for thinking about "has been" religious worldviews and lingering effects.

    (Zigh) Millenials do tend to get worse and open themselves up to Hollywood's demoralizing (im-Puritan) socialization system.

    (Zigh) I doubt he/she even looked at the truth-telling flag pictures which correspond to P. Giraldi's important topic.

    (Zigh) There are just puppeteers anymore and their puppets.

    The "pandering" to The Lobby is all that is..., what makes ZUSA tick, tic.

    Awareness and "sticking together" is the hand we're dealt and I am in.

    Thank you, C&D... very cool name!
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  • @RobinG
    Hi Art,

    At 29min: ".....we discovered [the Israelis] have nuclear landmines seeded on the Golan Heights."

    This interview from July, 1991, is laced with bombshells: the US pre-approved Israel's FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967 and their invasion of Lebanon in '82; Israel's role in arms sales to Iran; Mossad involvement in Honduras; etc., etc.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?20968-1/dangerous-liaisons

    "The husband-and-wife team of Andrew and Leslie Cockburn discussed their experiences researching their book Dangerous Liaisons, which details collaboration between Israeli intelligence and the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies. They amassed documentation from U.S. and Israeli intelligence sources, Israeli press reports, interviews and Hebrew documents."

    …the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967…

    But, but, Robin, Sam Shama assured us Dumb Goyim that the ’67 war was started by Nasser, he even has the polls to prove it.

    P.S. Thanks for sharing that clip, very informative.

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    But, but, Geo....

    That Israel struck first in 1967 is well established. For instance, see Miko Peled's book, The General's Son, for which he researched Israeli military archives.

    However, the US pre-approval and encouragement of the attack is more of a revelation. Not surprising, perhaps, but disgusting. [NB - the facts were in plain sight, but ignored, virtually erased by Zionist propaganda.] One might ask, wouldn't the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light? But, as it stands, the episode reinforces the argument that Israel is America's cat's paw for nefarious activity in the ME.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed? Are such inconvenient facts used for mutual blackmail? We oppose Israeli influence on our FP, but both countries are dependent on a military economy.

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it's the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.
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  • Hi Art,

    At 29min: “…..we discovered [the Israelis] have nuclear landmines seeded on the Golan Heights.”

    This interview from July, 1991, is laced with bombshells: the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967 and their invasion of Lebanon in ’82; Israel’s role in arms sales to Iran; Mossad involvement in Honduras; etc., etc.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?20968-1/dangerous-liaisons

    “The husband-and-wife team of Andrew and Leslie Cockburn discussed their experiences researching their book Dangerous Liaisons, which details collaboration between Israeli intelligence and the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies. They amassed documentation from U.S. and Israeli intelligence sources, Israeli press reports, interviews and Hebrew documents.”

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    ...the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967...
     
    But, but, Robin, Sam Shama assured us Dumb Goyim that the '67 war was started by Nasser, he even has the polls to prove it.

    P.S. Thanks for sharing that clip, very informative.
    , @Art

    At 29min: “…..we discovered [the Israelis] have nuclear landmines seeded on the Golan Heights.”

    This interview from July, 1991, is laced with bombshells: the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967 and their invasion of Lebanon in ’82; Israel’s role in arms sales to Iran; Mossad involvement in Honduras; etc., etc.
     
    RobinG,

    Holding Israel accountable for their nukes is an easy win - they cannot defend themselves. Charging "anti-Semite" does not wash. It puts their evil defensive tactics front and center.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  • How is it that NO one will talk about Israeli nukes — all 7,000,000,000 refuse to talk about the threat that the Jews put on everyone in the world to cause a nuke Armageddon.

    It is time for world sanctions against Israel until they eliminate all their WMDs – nuke, chemical, and biological.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @Millennial
    "the Puritans ignored the goody goody be nice..."

    Yes, to the lay reader, the OT is vastly more conservative and interesting than the NT.

    The "God of Israel" is the "Strict Father" of the Bible. He was just as likely to punish Jews as help or reward them. The OT is arguably more "anti-Semitic" than the NT.

    In the NT, Jesus says "neither Jew nor Greek..." establishing the universalist nature of Christianity, but also says "salvation is of the Jews" - essentially hinting that non-Jewish "believers" should venerate the Jewish people.

    "Puritanical" and other OT-reading Europeans were attracted to the martial and law-enforcing spirit in the OT. The NT was valued primarily for the promises of forgiveness, resurrection, and eternal life.

    "followed the Jewish custom..."

    The Catholic bread and wine (among other rituals) come from Genesis. OT.

    It's worth noting the correlation between Calvinism and warfare. The 16th c. French Huguenots and Dutch Calvinists were military innovators. The only Calvinist states in early modern Germany also became the most militaristic: Brandenburg-Prussia and Hesse-Kassel.

    (Zigh)

    Hard to swallow how P.G.’s important article comments have descended into “Puritans and other O.T. reading Europeans, French Huguenots and Dutch Calvinists military innovators.”

    Selah Anti-Sexual Harrassment Training for Lobbyotimized Congress, Find the Cost of Freedom, & Honor “The Decider” Dubya’ at West Point!

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    Indeed. Can we go back to discussing how to get all this Israeli pandering to stop? I am hoping that all the sexual perversion exposure that is bringing the Hollywood jewish power brokers in Hollywood down, extends to bring down similar power brokers in our government.
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  • @Alden
    Calvin, Knox, Fox and their other preachers proudly proclaimed that Jesus was not God. They proclaimed that there was "but one God and that is the God of Israel"

    The essence of Christianity is that Jesus is God along with the desert sky God known as Jehovaha and God the Father.

    The Puritans ignored the goody goody be nice Christian part of the bible and go off on the sex and violence of the OT. they even discussed not eating pork and oysters and having church services on Saturday instead of Sunday. They also followed the Jewish custom of eating cold food on the sabbath.

    “the Puritans ignored the goody goody be nice…”

    Yes, to the lay reader, the OT is vastly more conservative and interesting than the NT.

    The “God of Israel” is the “Strict Father” of the Bible. He was just as likely to punish Jews as help or reward them. The OT is arguably more “anti-Semitic” than the NT.

    In the NT, Jesus says “neither Jew nor Greek…” establishing the universalist nature of Christianity, but also says “salvation is of the Jews” – essentially hinting that non-Jewish “believers” should venerate the Jewish people.

    “Puritanical” and other OT-reading Europeans were attracted to the martial and law-enforcing spirit in the OT. The NT was valued primarily for the promises of forgiveness, resurrection, and eternal life.

    “followed the Jewish custom…”

    The Catholic bread and wine (among other rituals) come from Genesis. OT.

    It’s worth noting the correlation between Calvinism and warfare. The 16th c. French Huguenots and Dutch Calvinists were military innovators. The only Calvinist states in early modern Germany also became the most militaristic: Brandenburg-Prussia and Hesse-Kassel.

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    (Zigh)

    Hard to swallow how P.G.'s important article comments have descended into "Puritans and other O.T. reading Europeans, French Huguenots and Dutch Calvinists military innovators."

    Selah Anti-Sexual Harrassment Training for Lobbyotimized Congress, Find the Cost of Freedom, & Honor "The Decider" Dubya' at West Point!
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  • @Ace
    The stern part I think has been unfairly stuck on the Puritans. Wasn't bundling a Puritan practice? And women would complain in church that their husbands were not paying them attention sexually.

    Winthrop didn't want people in the Colony who didn't have a testimony but those who didn't were merely invited to go elsewhere. Anne Hutchinson was a real disturber but was only banished and excommunicated. The Salem witch hysteria had nothing to do with Puritan scriptural interpretation. James I himself, no Puritan, wrote a book about witchcraft, belief in which was widespread. Sometimes I wonder myself if it accounts for the betrayal of Western elites or the stupidity of Western whites. Or . . . .

    “women would complain in church”

    Women were explicitly forbidden from speaking in church (and sat in church segregated) in 17th century New England.

    Both men and women could, and did, complain to local magistrates if marital duties were not being fulfilled. This was hardly unique.

    Quaker groups allowed women to speak and preach. The Puritans exiled, hanged, whipped, and mutilated Quaker men and women. Eventually, Charles II was moved to tears after seeing mutilated Quakers and issued several Royal proclamations forbidding further violence against them. The Puritans reluctantly, and gradually, complied.

    But, as we all know, the Puritans were proto-feminists.

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  • Somewhat OT, but outstanding comment on related matters here:

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11472

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  • @Vinteuil
    "...there is nothing in any Red Cross document to suggest these were 'death camps'."

    According to David Cole, that's because "Germany never gave the Red Cross access to its Eastern camps and ghettos."

    Do you know better?

    http://takimag.com/article/how_many_jews_can_be_gassed_on_the_head_of_a_pin_david_cole/print#ixzz4xOrSnKSh

    I wasn’t referring to transit camps like Treblinka; I’m guessing Cole (and you, presumably) doesn’t regard Upper Silesia as “Eastern”. In the public perception, Auschwitz was a “death camp”, even if official historiography is congruent with revisionists in understanding that it’s main function was serving the German war effort.

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  • DANGEROUS LIASONS: ISRAEL & THE CIA

    This 1991 interview with Andrew and Leslie Cockburn is packed with gold and a few (still today, since they’ve been buried) bombshells, (UXB). Also dripping with cynicism, but the mainstream doesn’t permit journalism like this anymore – and the alternative media doesn’t have the necessary funds or access.

    If you’re in a hurry, see -
    @32min.-34min., Meir Amit gets US green light for 1967 attack on Egypt

    @49min. -end, US involvement in Israel’s attack on Lebanon; operation Tipped Kettle, Israel involvement in Honduras; etc.

    Dangerous Liaisons: Israel & The CIA

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    anonymous: "what Ivanka is wearing is a kimono like a skateboard."

    (Sigh)

    Frustrated words of The Christ to disciples: "You judge by appearances."

    (SIGH)

    My, my... how I long for the return of The Maven Shama and even Judah Ben iffen-iffen.

    Sorry Chuck, your first comment I totally disagree with:

    … how I long for the return of The Maven Shama and even Judah Ben iffen-iffen.

    I certainly appreciate the peace and focus of the present threads; be grateful for the little things ! :-)

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  • @anonymous
    oh please

    what Ivanka is wearing is a kimono like a skateboard is a Porsche.

    Kimono are designed/constructed to turn the female figure into a column -- obi smooths curves from breasts over abdomen to hips.

    OMG, what a friggin ditz she is, she thinks she’s a fashion model on tour. No, Ivanka, you’re not in a parallel universe, it’s not about you and your air-headed husband, it’s about your dad, the pres.

    Can hardly wait until Trump goes to Mexico and Ivanka shows up with a poncho and sombrero.

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  • @geokat62
    Our worst fears are coming true. The Lobby has dusted off the playbook they developed for the Iraq War and they have simply replaced the letter "q" with the letter "n."

    Do you recall how soon after 9/11 stories were coming out alleging Saddam had ties to al-Qaeda? Well, according to this communication from The Israel Project (TIP), so does the Islamic Republic of Iran:

    Newly Released Bin Laden Papers Confirm Iran, Al Qaeda Allied as Enemies of America

    The CIA has released thousands of documents and other files recovered from Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan, when the terrorist leader was killed, providing "invaluable insights" into the terror group's operations, and confirming previous reporting on its ties to Iran, Thomas Joscelyn and Bill Roggio of the Long War Journal reported Wednesday.

    While the authors acknowledge that it will take years for "experts and researchers to comb through this treasure trove of information," they offered some "preliminary observations" of the material they have reviewed.

    Though ties between al-Qaeda, the Sunni terrorist organization, and Iran, the Shiite nation that has been designated by the United States State Department as "foremost state sponsor of terrorism," have been reported previously, they have often been discounted due to their diverging religious philosophies. The latest revelations mentioned by Joscelyn and Roggio confirm that the two collaborated - despite their philosophical differences - motivated by a shared enmity for the U.S.

    An earlier release of papers included a letter in which bin Laden called Iran "our main artery for funds, personnel, and communication, as well as the matter of hostages."

    In the newly released trove, a senior member of al-Qaeda assessed his organization's ties with Iran and observed that Iran offered them "everything they needed," including financing, weapons and "training in Hezbollah camps in Lebanon, in exchange for striking American interests in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf.” In addition Iranian intelligence provided visas for some members of al-Qaeda and offered protection to others.
     
    P.S. I like the "Enemies of America" part... their deception is breathtaking.

    As Scott Horton has pointed out, if Iran was the perpetrator, it sure took them long enough (16 years) to get on the “right” track.

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