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    I spoke recently at a conference on America’s war party where afterwards an elderly gentleman came up to me and asked, “Why doesn’t anyone ever speak honestly about the six-hundred-pound gorilla in the room? Nobody has mentioned Israel in this conference and we all know it’s American Jews with all their money and power who...
  • @Anonymous
    It's more likely that the western establishment is hiring some Jews to hide themselves than Jews really being behind driving wars.

    The Vatican which is the Roman Empire system has spent the last 1700 years setting up the Western system and they have always had court Jews!

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  • The solution to all you mentioned:FARA. That and enforcing the nuclear weapons agreement.

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  • The Roman Empire began building walls to deter barbarian invasions, The Empire had spread largely but loosely. Many Roman veteran legions had mixed into the local populations that had lost all traces of their Roman identity and loyalty. Likewise Napoleon Bonaparte had invaded Russia but his army had spread too wide and grew weaker and eventually insolvent. Lets also remember that Britain, France, Germany lost their colonies during great internal socioeconomic upheavals, Will America repeat/scape this fate??? The US involvement in Vietnam came to (humlating)end in large part to internal US socioeconomic crisis( and zealots Anti Nixon zionistconspiracies). Foreign WARS (for Israel) had overextended the USA Military, bankrupt the nation fiscally and economically, and gain many more enemies for the USA abroad thus making the country more vulnerable to internal terrorists growing attacks that see American as the main (Zionists) aggressor and perpetrator of ANTI arab/Islamic countries and faith. Unfortunately the Pentagons Budget architects see no virtues in Social NATIONAL investments specially in our youths (education, employment)whom will be called (force?) to figt those foreign wars. The Yinon Greater Israel Project (insanity) will suck America into a WW III conflagration that involves major NUCLEAR powers, religious fundamentalists fanatics (jews, islam,christian), within failed authoritarian states with mass poverty, with no hopeful future for their largely young populations.

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  • @Hollywood Mark
    Dude: You really need to get some psychiatric help for your anti-Semitism. Yikes! WTF is wrong with you? Did your dad run off with a Jewish woman or something? Spike Lee's dad did so I understand his anti-Semitism. What caused yours? Get some help, you sick f--k.

    Phillip needs to contact the mother ship.. tinfoil needs replacing. Iran has demonstrated it’s antipathy to the US countless times and Israel her allegiance. Jews are the commercial backbone of America and wily and guiley.

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  • @Bubba
    Amen brother! And I would like to throw some gasoline on your Neocon fire. President Trump has never worked with military generals before and he is extremely naive to their absolute Machiavellian manipulation of him. Most generals today are expert political backstabbers who advanced during the tragic Neocon and PC era of the past 30 years. Who can forget the disgusting General Casey when he said, "And what happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here." The generals that Trump hired for his administration are now running circles around him, particularly McMaster. They want war to keep the Neocons happy and that is what this crop of generals has been trained to do.

    My guess is that Trump had to encircle himself with the generals and befriended the military rank and file in general to protect himself from the treacherous activities of the leadership of the CIA, FBI, NSA and other security agencies. Once he has those agencies cleaned out, hopefully he will turn his attention to restructuring the military leadership. But I could be wrong. I was surprised by his strong support of Israel as outside of his family’s spouses and fiancees, his is pretty much despised by Jews in New York and he seems to know it.

    His social qualities or lack thereof aside, he is America’s best hope and succeeds because he is much smarter than meets the eye and he gets people to continuously underestimate him.

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  • Sucked into Fighting for Jews http://www.dcdave.com/poet15/160207.htm

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  • @Hollywood Mark
    Dude: You really need to get some psychiatric help for your anti-Semitism. Yikes! WTF is wrong with you? Did your dad run off with a Jewish woman or something? Spike Lee's dad did so I understand his anti-Semitism. What caused yours? Get some help, you sick f--k.

    The neocons did for Conservatism what the movie “Deliverance” did for southern hospitality.

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  • What’s your opinion (real feelings) about Islam/Muslims ?
    DO you think you can co-exist with them ?
    Will they tolerate you (infidel) ?
    Are you aware that you’re afflicted with mental disease ? (Denial)

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  • […] det? 15 år senare skriver Philip Giraldi en artikel i samma tidning på samma tema men med titeln America’s Jews are Driving America’s Wars. Frågeställningen var ungefär densamma men nu utan omskrivningar. Artikeln pekar helt enkelt ut […]

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  • Incredible. A writer in Canada would be thrown in prison for writing that. We’re not allowed to criticise Isreal or even say the word Jew without breaking the law about “inciting racial hatred.” Oddly, we’re allowed to have a go at Natives or Indians, but Isreal is sacred.

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  • In addition to neocons is this :
    http://truepublica.org.uk/ global/ex-british-ambassador- makes-astonishing-speech- about-tony-blair-george-bush- war-and-profit/

    Ex British Ambassador Makes Astonishing Speech About Tony Blair, George Bush, War and Profit

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  • @Hollywood Mark
    Dude: You really need to get some psychiatric help for your anti-Semitism. Yikes! WTF is wrong with you? Did your dad run off with a Jewish woman or something? Spike Lee's dad did so I understand his anti-Semitism. What caused yours? Get some help, you sick f--k.

    When people exclaim how they want to “kill all the Arabs”, how is that not anti-semitic? Do you folks even know what a semite is? It’s an ARABIC person, not some European person who has hijacked a religion from middle easterners. Best to watch some speeches by Rabbi David Weiss of NYC.

    So I prefer to refer to them as Zionists rather than ‘jews’ as I do not want to smear a whole religion for what some who run a bad government do.

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  • @Minnesota Mary
    I'm quite sure Kristol's friend that served is Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas.

    Neocon meteor Sen. Cotton is funded by Abrams, Adelson and Kristol and loves war a little too much

    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/militaristic-adelson-kristol/

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  • @Anon-og
    The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel

    Although it is generally understood that American neoconservatives pushed hard for the war in Iraq, this book forcefully argues that the neocons' goal was not the spread of democracy, but the protection of Israel's interests in the Middle East. Showing that the neocon movement has always identified closely with the interests of Israel's Likudnik right wing, the discussion contends that neocon advice on Iraq was the exact opposite of conventional United States foreign policy, which has always sought to maintain stability in the region to promote the flow of oil. Various players in the rush to war are assessed according to their motives, including President Bush, Ariel Sharon, members of the foreign-policy establishment, and the American people, who are seen not as having been dragged into war against their will, but as ready after 9/11 for retaliation.

    https://www.amazon.com/Transparent-Cabal-Neoconservative-National-Interest/dp/1932528172

    The Unfolding of Yinon’s “Zionist Plan for the Middle East”: The Crisis in Iraq and the Centrality of the National Interest of Israel:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-the-crisis-in-iraq-and-the-centrality-of-the-national-interest-of-israel/

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  • @RobinG
    This was made for you, Geo.

    Co-Authors Reflect Ten years After Publishing Controversial Book,
    'The Israel Lobby'

    https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview-podcast/coauthors-reflect-ten-years-after-publishing-controversial-book-the-israel-lobby/912a4c83-8144-442e-99b2-93e6156f39f4

    "The 2007 book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy argued that a loose coalition of interests, which supports Israel, lobbies the U.S. government to skew U.S. foreign policy to Israel’s favor. The authors also assert this reality damages, both America’s and Israel’s, long-term interests. “The Israel Lobby” ignited a firestorm of debate. Critics accused the authors of giving voice to historic anti-Semitic slurs. Supporters hailed the book as opening a door to needed dialogue on a taboo subject.



    Ten years later, the book’s co-authors, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, join Worldview to discuss the changes in Middle East dialogue in the decade since they wrote the book. Mearsheimer is professor of political science at the University of Chicago and authored numerous books including, The Tragedy of Great Power Politics. Walt is a professor of International Affairs at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. He also authored the book, Taming American Power: The Global Response to U.S. Primacy."

    CBS ’60 Minutes’ Executive Producer Jewish Jeff Fager tweets about ‘Russian influence’ but refused to have ’60 Minutes’ do a segment about the Mearsheimer/Walt book:

    The debate about the Mearsheimer/Walt book continues. 60 Minutes declines to do a segment
    :

    https://snuffysmithsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/debate-about-mearsheimerwalt-book.html

    Walt & Mearsheimer’s Proof That ‘Tail Wagged the Dog’ Points American Jews to a Universalist Ethos:

    http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me/

    Mearsheimer/Walt ‘The Israel Lobby’ book mentioned during following radio show Phil Giraldi was on yesterday:

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    1 TV report: Islamic State chiefs gather near Israel border, set up training camp
    Having fled Iraq and northern Syria, several top commanders of terror group now in Golan Heights enclave, recruiting and running propaganda effort, says Israel’s Channel 2″ https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-report-islamic-state-chiefs-gather-near-israel-border-set-up-training-camp/

    2 Several senior commanders from Islamic State who recently fled from Iraq and northern Syria are now based in southern Syria, just across the Golan Heights border with Israel, and are training hundreds of new recruits there, an Israeli television report said.

    Israel’s Channel 2 said the commanders have made their way to an Islamic State-controlled enclave “close to the border” with Israel. They have set up a training camp to which they have recruited 300 local youths, said the report, which showed footage apparently of the camp and training sessions.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-report-islamic-state-chiefs-gather-near-israel-border-set-up-training-camp/

    3 Both the IS-affiliated Khalid ibn al-Walid Army and the Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, formerly the al-Nusra Front, which is linked to al-Qaeda, have been set up on Israel’s borders for years. .timesofisrael.com/

    4 (
    Then they kill some (expendable terrorist to show the stupid Americans that Israel is against terrorism ) and sends F 16 to kill Syrian army threatens to fly 1000 miles to kill Iranians but leaves the terrorist next door

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Israeli intelligence services, and the International Atomic Energy Agency, agrees: Iran is fulfilling its obligations.” A comment on antiwar.com
    “Even Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s former national security advisor, Uzi Arad, says we ought to keep the deal in place” http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/trump-horrifying-iran-deal-gambit-article-1.3546355

    Many weeks after the disastrous direct ugly conflicts between US and Iran , those few dissenting opinions will be used to hide the otherwise 100% contribution ,solo efforts, persistent machinations to initiation of the war by the Evil Network .

    Nowadays we hear a lot about some of those peripheral insignificant and transients utterances against the Iraq war in pre –March 2003 by certain as evidences of absence of any role by the Evil Network .

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  • The problem with the phrase “The Jews” is that as a group Jews are so diverse and different, that one cannot properly speak about The Jews. When Zionist do so, they are wrong and should be called out. They have no right to speak for all “the” Jews. Since Zionists should not do so, neither should non-Jews or non Zionists. This is bound to lead to misunderstandings. Rather than speak of “The Jews” why not “some Jews” or “Zionist Jews”? Or Jewish Groups or “wealthy Jews”. But not The Jews. At least that is what it seems to me. That said, there is no question that deep pocketed Zionist Jews are absolutely obnoxious in their arrogance and deceitfulness.

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  • Philip, an excellent article with which you hit the nail right on the head. The fact that TAC fired you over the phone by simply stating that the article was unacceptable, without giving proper reasons, is in fact a compliment, if I may say so, because it is an endorsement of everything you stated.

    I hope you will find the energy and motivation to keep up the good work, calling a spade a spade, esp. in this case, and I sincerely hope the harassment will be bearable. I wish you lots of luck, success, and some result in a very corrupt US government that is in Israel’s stranglehold.

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  • @Thomm
    Jews are white.

    Brainwashed?

    just like they acquire western firstnames, they mix to sneak in.

    Europeans know this topic very well.

    Too well in my opinion.

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  • In all probability not, however that’s the market charge.

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  • Unfortunately, I think the mistake that Mr. Giraldi makes is in calling for open identification of hawkish Jewish talking-heads. Because of the nature of Jewish power this just won’t work.

    The way to confront the problems he correctly identifies in his article is to adopt what one might call Jewish methods. These methods would necessarily be unofficial, relatively unbureaucratic, somewhat grassroots and out of the public eye.

    The gentiles might consider making a list, and simply making it available online. Of course, it would have to be ensured that the person belling the cat is not motivated by hate. No David Dukes or Brian Ruhes thank you very much.

    But sadly, I do not trust that such a person could be found. So the only way forward with which the goyim are left, which I honestly think works just fine, is to seek out those for whom “The Jews” are an idee fixe, read them, and determine the validity of what they say. Here one should feel free to read those motivated by hate. For those not motivated by hate Mr Giraldi is wonderful, or I might mention Kevin Macdonald & The Occidental Observer.

    So in the final analysis, I guess all that I’m advocating is reading widely.

    (dear comment section moderator, would you pretty please delete my previous comment and replace it with this one?)

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  • Unfortunately, I think the mistake that Mr. Giraldi makes is in calling for open identification of hawkish Jewish talking-heads. Because of the nature of Jewish power this just won’t work.

    The way to confront the problems he correctly identifies in his article is to adopt what one might call Jewish methods. These methods would necessarily be unofficial, relatively unbureaucratic, somewhat grassroots and out of the public eye.

    The gentiles might consider making a list, and simply making it available online. Of course, it would have to be ensured that the person belling the cat is not motivated by hate. No David Dukes or Brian Ruhes thank you very much.

    But sadly, I do not trust that such a person could be found. So the only way forward with which the goyim are left, which I honestly think works just fine, is to seek out those for whom “The Jews” are an idee fixe (David Duke, Brian Ruhe, Brother Nathanael, and while not motivated by hate, Mr Giraldi), read them, and determine the validity of what they say.

    So in the final analysis, I guess all that I’m advocating is reading widely.

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  • Thank you for this article. Finally someone with enough “chandelier” to call a spade a spade. “Wherever there is strife, unemployment, poverty and war is looming you’ll fund the jews are at work..” never have truer words been spoken.

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  • Henceforward, I shall regard articles in The American Conservative with suspicion. I’ll disfavor articles I see in favor of those from other outlets, like the Unz Review.

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  • You make it hard for me; so many problems so little ability.

    Well…it’s not me, it’s the world we live in.
    But, that sentence is the crux of it. Realizing own ability. Self-assessment, introspection. The hardest part today. Because, we are all…special….unique….we deserve the best….we, if given opportunity can be kings. Whites in particular.

    Well…no.

    Most of us aren’t very smart, don’t have high talents, lack hard self-discipline…etc…etc….
    But…..the problem can be solved or not.
    If it can be solved and I can’t do it…well…somebody probably can.

    My personal belief (based on a bit of experience) is that pooling resources from similar minded folks can solve any practical political problem.

    So…in this case, say, if I were that adviser to the President, I’d reach, over Internet, fuck, over this (and some other, of course) Websites and ask ….”who feels capable to start addressing THIS/THAT problem? Send your resume with cover letter to this email address.”
    Then, I’d choose several persons who appear much, much smarter than I am and make a team.
    Give them a task and time frame.
    Replace some in instant if feeling not delivering. Blah…blah….Basic crisis management.

    That is something I was, after November Miracle, expecting from the “Team Trump”. Because……I’ve seen this done, on lower levels of course, somewhere else.
    You’d be surprised by amount of talent and capability that exists around. Those people just need an opportunity.

    And, yes, for sure, wouldn’t mind some Jews on that team for sure. Groves didn’t mind Oppenheimer, Szilard, Peierls, Berthe and the rest.

    From then on it’s simple.
    I do not support isolating the Jews (or any ethnic group) in American politics.

    To go off the JQ topic, I hope that there is a chance that Trumpism will split the Republican Party and the resulting populist/nationalist/freedom loving part will give America a shot at surviving.

    Military: Universal draft by lottery, no exemptions, additional draft as needed by occupation and ability.

    Education: Voucher for pre-K through year 14 for each child. No financial support for students past year 14 except for proven intellectual heft (strict cut-off using ACT type tests; zero AA).

    Agree, of course. At least as a starting point of the, say, “The Improvement Project”/whatever.
    Especially “the resulting populist/nationalist/freedom loving part”. There was a huge positive energy after November. A REAL populist would’ve used it. Should’ve used it. He/they didn’t.
    Why he/they didn’t I do not know.
    It would be….prudent….to know that “why”.
    Next time (if it happens) they must.

    Now, for this one:

    Economy: Immediate and total immigration hiatus (except for Einsteins and beauty queens). Immediate hiatus in expanded “free trade” with appropriate roll-back in crucial industries and sectors. Restricted universal basic income for every citizen.

    could be a starting point for the real work. Everything is based on economy.
    How would that work, I, personally, have no idea.
    Financial system evaluation and possible change would the the most important.
    Maybe before that realizing the future of work in increased automation.
    And based on that the idea of “restricted universal income”. Etc.
    The……….real……work………….
    And, yes, Jews, Mongols, Aborigines, X-file aliens ….anyone is welcome in the team if capable and willing to contribute.

    Or….all that is just bullshit.
    Just get rid of Jews and all will be fine.

    Much easier.
    No headache.

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  • @peterAUS
    Well...how about this?

    You appear to be interested in the topic.
    You also pose a lot of questions.

    Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?

    See how all this "things aren't good" ....uhm....Internet conversations.....look, really:
    1. This is not good...that is not good...this..that...this ....that.......with plenty of quotes, links..whatever.
    2. Jews did it....Niggers did it......Communists....this group...that group....evil group.....

    And that's pretty much it.

    Looks very....competent.....productive......doesn't it?
    Yeah....
    Beats shrinks, pills, alcohol, family violence and especially occasional public shootings, but still....

    So is this post.
    Long history of imperial wars by United States.
    Same 1/2 pattern, of course with "Jews" in majority.

    So....if you, say, were US President adviser, what would you suggest to him?

    This is what I'd suggest (it's easy to ask questions; suggesting answers is where the real work is).
    BTW, once upon a time when I was in position of some power, my subordinates wouldn't ask a question unless they'd be able to suggest a possible answer. Now, of course, there are no superiors/subordinates on Internet, but the same rule could apply. Of course it will not.

    So, I'd suggest:
    "You got into this position by promising certain things to people who put you here.
    Going/not going to wars was ONE of those promises.
    We both know that the most important thing you have to do is deliver MEANINGFUL JOBS to people.
    Now, we both BELIEVE also that our economy and overall way of life as it is depends on imperial wars. Maybe it isn't.
    I'd suggest creating a committee/panel/team to see is that true or not. The members should be picked up from within your power base. One month to deliver their position paper.
    If....if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
    A big problem."

    Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?

    You make it hard for me; so many problems so little ability.

    I do not support isolating the Jews (or any ethnic group) in American politics.

    To go off the JQ topic, I hope that there is a chance that Trumpism will split the Republican Party and the resulting populist/nationalist/freedom loving part will give America a shot at surviving.

    Military: Universal draft by lottery, no exemptions, additional draft as needed by occupation and ability.

    Education: Voucher for pre-K through year 14 for each child. No financial support for students past year 14 except for proven intellectual heft (strict cut-off using ACT type tests; zero AA).

    Economy: Immediate and total immigration hiatus (except for Einsteins and beauty queens). Immediate hiatus in expanded “free trade” with appropriate roll-back in crucial industries and sectors. Restricted universal basic income for every citizen.

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  • Those who won all battles shall lose the war.
    Bilderberg Group and the crimes against humanity.

    Whatever does not belong to them as property is under their absolute control. Just by looking at the executive staff of these mechanisms, conclusions may be drawn. Here follows the list with the Jews CEO running the global mechanism for the “production” and “dissemination” of propaganda for the New Order.

    http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/02/world-war-iii.html

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  • @peterAUS
    Well...how about this?

    You appear to be interested in the topic.
    You also pose a lot of questions.

    Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?

    See how all this "things aren't good" ....uhm....Internet conversations.....look, really:
    1. This is not good...that is not good...this..that...this ....that.......with plenty of quotes, links..whatever.
    2. Jews did it....Niggers did it......Communists....this group...that group....evil group.....

    And that's pretty much it.

    Looks very....competent.....productive......doesn't it?
    Yeah....
    Beats shrinks, pills, alcohol, family violence and especially occasional public shootings, but still....

    So is this post.
    Long history of imperial wars by United States.
    Same 1/2 pattern, of course with "Jews" in majority.

    So....if you, say, were US President adviser, what would you suggest to him?

    This is what I'd suggest (it's easy to ask questions; suggesting answers is where the real work is).
    BTW, once upon a time when I was in position of some power, my subordinates wouldn't ask a question unless they'd be able to suggest a possible answer. Now, of course, there are no superiors/subordinates on Internet, but the same rule could apply. Of course it will not.

    So, I'd suggest:
    "You got into this position by promising certain things to people who put you here.
    Going/not going to wars was ONE of those promises.
    We both know that the most important thing you have to do is deliver MEANINGFUL JOBS to people.
    Now, we both BELIEVE also that our economy and overall way of life as it is depends on imperial wars. Maybe it isn't.
    I'd suggest creating a committee/panel/team to see is that true or not. The members should be picked up from within your power base. One month to deliver their position paper.
    If....if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
    A big problem."

    You’re starting to make some sense in your most recent posts, Pete.

    If….if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
    A big problem.”

    Yes, I think that is precisely the “problem” the US faces, and has been facing for some years. Its hemming and hawing over that decision is to be seen in its chaotic policy statements and decisions. It’s been prevaricating around the bush for a decade.

    If the decision to go to war is made, you must simultaneously examine and prepare for an even bigger potential problem. What happens if you lose those wars? No jobs, no Empire, social/political/economic/financial chaos at home, and all the other features of a crash ‘n burn. March 2003 was a different world, and Imperial Wars at this stage of the game are going to be a close run thing. It would be damnably incompetent of you to leave the aftermath of failure to the vagaries of collapse.
    Better start building lots more FEMA camps, and prepare to activate all those dormant clauses in the Patriot Act (inter alia) that allow the fully totalitarian state that alone stands a chance of handling the situation to stand up, should the US’ competitors better them in the field. After all, that’s why those clauses were placed there.

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  • Those who railed at Giraldi and at Plame-Wilson claiming they were spouting anti Semitic tropes have obviously missed this mini-clip of a longer article…see if this galls as much…and then I’ll tell you who wrote it and where…

    “White Man’s Burden: Written in MARCH 2003…
    “The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who were pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible. But another journalist, Thomas Friedman (not part of the group), was skeptical…………………and:
    “In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history. They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion of morality and FORCE, human rights and grit.
    The philosophical underpinnings of the Washington Neoconservatives are the writings of Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke. They also admire Winston Churchill and the policy pursued by Ronald Reagan. They tend to read reality in terms of the failure of the 1930s (Munich) versus the success of the 1980s (the fall of the Berlin Wall).

    This older article is longer but I think the above snippets are enough to confirm that any who agree with such information must have been reading Ari Shavet on Haaretz….he was quite right..and so was Giraldi. Facts are facts.

    read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/white-man-s-burden-1.14110#article-comments

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  • @iffen
    Some call the Jews “in question” neocons, in the same response call them Bolsheviks. Can’t have it both ways.

    What is your argument here? Are you calling for anti-Semites to be more competent and knowledgeable?

    Never thought it would happen in the US.

    Some of us never thought that the rule of law, electoral democracy, informed and professional journalism, academic freedom and freedom of speech and thought would be kicked to the curb, but it is happening.

    Well…how about this?

    You appear to be interested in the topic.
    You also pose a lot of questions.

    Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?

    See how all this “things aren’t good” ….uhm….Internet conversations…..look, really:
    1. This is not good…that is not good…this..that…this ….that…….with plenty of quotes, links..whatever.
    2. Jews did it….Niggers did it……Communists….this group…that group….evil group…..

    And that’s pretty much it.

    Looks very….competent…..productive……doesn’t it?
    Yeah….
    Beats shrinks, pills, alcohol, family violence and especially occasional public shootings, but still….

    So is this post.
    Long history of imperial wars by United States.
    Same 1/2 pattern, of course with “Jews” in majority.

    So….if you, say, were US President adviser, what would you suggest to him?

    This is what I’d suggest (it’s easy to ask questions; suggesting answers is where the real work is).
    BTW, once upon a time when I was in position of some power, my subordinates wouldn’t ask a question unless they’d be able to suggest a possible answer. Now, of course, there are no superiors/subordinates on Internet, but the same rule could apply. Of course it will not.

    So, I’d suggest:
    “You got into this position by promising certain things to people who put you here.
    Going/not going to wars was ONE of those promises.
    We both know that the most important thing you have to do is deliver MEANINGFUL JOBS to people.
    Now, we both BELIEVE also that our economy and overall way of life as it is depends on imperial wars. Maybe it isn’t.
    I’d suggest creating a committee/panel/team to see is that true or not. The members should be picked up from within your power base. One month to deliver their position paper.
    If….if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
    A big problem.”

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    You're starting to make some sense in your most recent posts, Pete.

    If….if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
    A big problem.”
     
    Yes, I think that is precisely the "problem" the US faces, and has been facing for some years. Its hemming and hawing over that decision is to be seen in its chaotic policy statements and decisions. It's been prevaricating around the bush for a decade.

    If the decision to go to war is made, you must simultaneously examine and prepare for an even bigger potential problem. What happens if you lose those wars? No jobs, no Empire, social/political/economic/financial chaos at home, and all the other features of a crash 'n burn. March 2003 was a different world, and Imperial Wars at this stage of the game are going to be a close run thing. It would be damnably incompetent of you to leave the aftermath of failure to the vagaries of collapse.
    Better start building lots more FEMA camps, and prepare to activate all those dormant clauses in the Patriot Act (inter alia) that allow the fully totalitarian state that alone stands a chance of handling the situation to stand up, should the US' competitors better them in the field. After all, that's why those clauses were placed there.

    , @iffen
    Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?

    You make it hard for me; so many problems so little ability.

    I do not support isolating the Jews (or any ethnic group) in American politics.

    To go off the JQ topic, I hope that there is a chance that Trumpism will split the Republican Party and the resulting populist/nationalist/freedom loving part will give America a shot at surviving.

    Military: Universal draft by lottery, no exemptions, additional draft as needed by occupation and ability.

    Education: Voucher for pre-K through year 14 for each child. No financial support for students past year 14 except for proven intellectual heft (strict cut-off using ACT type tests; zero AA).

    Economy: Immediate and total immigration hiatus (except for Einsteins and beauty queens). Immediate hiatus in expanded “free trade” with appropriate roll-back in crucial industries and sectors. Restricted universal basic income for every citizen.
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  • @BostonPatriot
    Giraldi's article could have been taken right out of Der Shturmer. And the responses. Some call the Jews "in question" neocons, in the same response call them Bolsheviks. Can't have it both ways.

    I've not read one comment mentioning that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. And make no mistake, please. Jews = Israel = Jews.

    Never thought it would happen in the US.

    Some call the Jews “in question” neocons, in the same response call them Bolsheviks. Can’t have it both ways.

    What is your argument here? Are you calling for anti-Semites to be more competent and knowledgeable?

    Never thought it would happen in the US.

    Some of us never thought that the rule of law, electoral democracy, informed and professional journalism, academic freedom and freedom of speech and thought would be kicked to the curb, but it is happening.

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    Well...how about this?

    You appear to be interested in the topic.
    You also pose a lot of questions.

    Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?

    See how all this "things aren't good" ....uhm....Internet conversations.....look, really:
    1. This is not good...that is not good...this..that...this ....that.......with plenty of quotes, links..whatever.
    2. Jews did it....Niggers did it......Communists....this group...that group....evil group.....

    And that's pretty much it.

    Looks very....competent.....productive......doesn't it?
    Yeah....
    Beats shrinks, pills, alcohol, family violence and especially occasional public shootings, but still....

    So is this post.
    Long history of imperial wars by United States.
    Same 1/2 pattern, of course with "Jews" in majority.

    So....if you, say, were US President adviser, what would you suggest to him?

    This is what I'd suggest (it's easy to ask questions; suggesting answers is where the real work is).
    BTW, once upon a time when I was in position of some power, my subordinates wouldn't ask a question unless they'd be able to suggest a possible answer. Now, of course, there are no superiors/subordinates on Internet, but the same rule could apply. Of course it will not.

    So, I'd suggest:
    "You got into this position by promising certain things to people who put you here.
    Going/not going to wars was ONE of those promises.
    We both know that the most important thing you have to do is deliver MEANINGFUL JOBS to people.
    Now, we both BELIEVE also that our economy and overall way of life as it is depends on imperial wars. Maybe it isn't.
    I'd suggest creating a committee/panel/team to see is that true or not. The members should be picked up from within your power base. One month to deliver their position paper.
    If....if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
    A big problem."
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  • Giraldi’s article could have been taken right out of Der Shturmer. And the responses. Some call the Jews “in question” neocons, in the same response call them Bolsheviks. Can’t have it both ways.

    I’ve not read one comment mentioning that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. And make no mistake, please. Jews = Israel = Jews.

    Never thought it would happen in the US.

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    Some call the Jews “in question” neocons, in the same response call them Bolsheviks. Can’t have it both ways.

    What is your argument here? Are you calling for anti-Semites to be more competent and knowledgeable?

    Never thought it would happen in the US.

    Some of us never thought that the rule of law, electoral democracy, informed and professional journalism, academic freedom and freedom of speech and thought would be kicked to the curb, but it is happening.
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  • Looks like the Jew Trolls are having discussions among themselves to spam up the comment section.

    Related to the title of this article “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars
    Shouldn’t they recuse themselves when dealing with the Middle East?”

    PROOF

    Assange: REAL threat to US is not Russia but Israel

    http://tapnewswire.com/2017/10/assange-real-threat-to-us-is-not-russia-but-israel/

    Read this article and watch the video carefully. Mega mucho info.

    Link to the the Senate Bill

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/10/text

    Link to the Sponsor and 4 co-sponsoring TRAITORS and Goyim whores of this Bill

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/10/cosponsors

    Trump the Goyim Tramp ain’t gonna do shit about this.

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  • @Nick_P
    Thank you for writing this.

    Jewish thought is not only a factor in our wars in the Middle East but may also be instrumental in our animosity towards Russia.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski - was a Jew born in Poland
    Henry Kissinger - was a Jew born in Germany

    It's obvious to me that their experiences affected their attitudes towards Russia and that this played out in their foreign policy ideas.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski – was a Jew born in Poland
    Henry Kissinger – was a Jew born in Germany

    Zbig was a gentile. Catholic.!

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  • @peterAUS

    Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.
     
    Agree, in principle.

    There are real and mounting problems in West.
    It feels as powers that be aren't keen on addressing those problems.
    When I said problems, I meant "problems for lower 60 % of society". Higher you go those problems stop being problems and start becoming opportunities and even benefits.

    So, you have rising resentment of the current state by those 60 %.
    You have to address it....MANAGE it......not change....manage. Keep the system going, of course, because ti benefits you, but you do have to manage that resentment.

    First it come breads and circuses...a bit of carrot.
    Then a bit of stick (surveillance and police state).

    Then you sacrifice a pawn; one of your own.
    'They did all this to you. We just get rid of them and all will be fine..all will be back as before when you were happy..We..will..be...great...again....".

    This "Jews did it all" thing just feels that way.

    This “Jews did it all” thing just feels that way.

    You seem to imply that a part of the power structure is ready and willing to pick this up and go with it.
    Anti-Semitism is a fringe of a fringe.

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  • This is not the first op-ed in which Giraldi has asked uncomfortable questions of America’s Power Jews.

    But from the moment I began noticing multiple “screen captures” of Valerie Plame’s tweet, whose sole purpose was to seal off her one means of escape (ie, deleting the tweet), you knew America’s Power Jews were out to bag a few scalps on this one. Resulting, sadly, in another instance of Conservatism, Inc stepping on its own dick while grinning painfully for the photo-op (that neither Jew nor Greek will bother to believe, or accept, in the first place).

    It’s kind of unfortunate that APJs feign distaste at that gravy-sweating pantload John Podhoretz, who always comes in so handy on these yarmulke’d witch-hunts. Ever since he publicly twisted St Martin’s Press’s arm nearly out of its socket to violate their contracts with David Irving, back in the mid-90s, with dark threats of isolation and demonization – to say nothing of the subsequent demonetization sure to follow – all the snootier members of the tribe were handed the template for How To Do It, which they made sure to quietly Xerox for both study and safekeeping. Well – as long as they’re going to benefit from his tactics, they might as well be openly grateful to the greasy fat thug.

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  • @iffen
    find a solution to REAL problems of this world

    Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.

    Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.

    Agree, in principle.

    There are real and mounting problems in West.
    It feels as powers that be aren’t keen on addressing those problems.
    When I said problems, I meant “problems for lower 60 % of society”. Higher you go those problems stop being problems and start becoming opportunities and even benefits.

    So, you have rising resentment of the current state by those 60 %.
    You have to address it….MANAGE it……not change….manage. Keep the system going, of course, because ti benefits you, but you do have to manage that resentment.

    First it come breads and circuses…a bit of carrot.
    Then a bit of stick (surveillance and police state).

    Then you sacrifice a pawn; one of your own.
    ‘They did all this to you. We just get rid of them and all will be fine..all will be back as before when you were happy..We..will..be…great…again….”.

    This “Jews did it all” thing just feels that way.

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    This “Jews did it all” thing just feels that way.

    You seem to imply that a part of the power structure is ready and willing to pick this up and go with it.
    Anti-Semitism is a fringe of a fringe.

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  • Thank you for writing this.

    Jewish thought is not only a factor in our wars in the Middle East but may also be instrumental in our animosity towards Russia.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski – was a Jew born in Poland
    Henry Kissinger – was a Jew born in Germany

    It’s obvious to me that their experiences affected their attitudes towards Russia and that this played out in their foreign policy ideas.

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    Zbigniew Brzezinski – was a Jew born in Poland
    Henry Kissinger – was a Jew born in Germany
     
    Zbig was a gentile. Catholic.!
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  • @geokat62

    ...piss on hoi poi, I got mine.
     
    What the heck is"hoi poi"? Is it some kind of Vietnamese dish that is so bad people usually end up pissing on it?

    Or, maybe, you meant "hoi polloi" - Greek for "the many"?

    What the heck is”hoi poi”?

    Relax, I misspelled a word.

    It’s not like I committed a major fox paw.

    It’s not like it interferes with my Nazi recognition abilities.

    It’s not like I forgot what holohoax spells.

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  • @peterAUS

    I am not entirely sure what you mean by “try to find a way out of it all”.
     
    Well….I was thinking along the lines of you Jews, being smart and all that, could try to find a solution to REAL problems of this world. I mean, somebody should.

    If you mean an impending revolution with guillotines and the other paraphernalia destined for the elite, I should very much doubt it. The median American is getting on reasonably well, though not relative to the upper deciles; and the lower third are not suffering the conditions of the sans culottes viewed from the perch of the noblesse de l’Ancien Regime. If there is discontent, it is chiefly perceptible in the erstwhile lower ranges of the top twentieth percentile and the thirtieth percentile, i.e., your middle management and rank and file knowledge workers who find themselves increasing displaced by forces of technological change and policies which were undertaken decades earlier to offshore industrial production.
     
    It’s more than those I am afraid.
    Its lower strata of society, from lower middle class downwards.
    So, if we put all those together, it’s a sizeable chunk of society getting unhappy.
    I believe that social upheavals start when middle class (all layers of it) starts getting pissed off. And humans, being what they are, do like finding human target to unload all that rage on. And, as things look now, your people started appearing more and more as that target.

    I am not even sure how one goes about such re-industrialisation.
     
    Me neither.
    And after all these years chatting on Internet haven’t found any feasible option. Hence, maybe there is none. I don’t know.
    But what I do know is rage. Seen it…was part of it, worked with it…..and wasn’t pretty. Seen movie “Forbidden Planet”? Demon from Id?
    When a mass of people get into that state you either try to move them down with automatic weapon until even spare barrels melt, or you run away (O.K, with Gatling systems it is easier, I concede). There is no reasoning with IT.
    Maybe Americans can’t get there. Maybe they can.

    The question is who is this SOMEBODY? I’d be the first to concede that financialisation of the economy, in which my fellow co-religionists play no small part, has become the most glaring departure from what used to be a more “wholesome” society according to some.
     
    That’s it.
    Your people….money masters. That’s the growing perception. And that perception is all what matters.
    I HATE getting personal on Internet sites. You strike me as an “intellectual” type. A type who knows about dark sides of human nature through studying it. Books, intellectual approach. But you’ve never dealt with it face to face. You should try sometime.
    You try for a couple of seconds and then you see…feel it. And from then on it’s either you cut them down or they stomp you head into pulp. You of all people should know that.
    Do not ever overestimate a hindbrain of an average person frustrated by perceived failure in his/her life.

    Thus fractional reserve banking can be viewed as a rapid deployment strategy to harness future savings in order to promote current investments. Without those investments over the 1945-1990 period, the world would not be what it is today. Of this I am confident.
     
    Hehe…see…you are a smart guy.
    I don’t know much about that topic. Or, better, more I read about it more I got confused. What I do know, though, is problem solving, planning…execution. The method.
    That’s why I see all this Internet blathering just that……blathering with occasional connect with somebody you can learn a bit here and there.
    I’ve never seen, so far, the method in works there.
    Say, a world wide alt-right/whatever panel of top intellectuals discussing the issue, producing an action plan, marketing it to people (Internet) and then, forcing powers that be to do something. Having plan for that “forcing” as well.

    I do not see this changing.
     
    Me neither if it goes this way. But, then, everyday “little” Jews will feel the fallout. I am sure of it.

    For matters more in the context of nurturing our human condition, where the economic model is considered wanting, more of a hindrance than an aid, I am not your man. As a Jew, I am only capable of talking about simple things, not in the realm of philosophy, morality, or ethics. For that, there are better men here on this board.
     
    Probably. Hopefully. Not only on this board but anywhere.
    They are good at keeping silent and ineffective for the moment, though. Very good indeed.

    find a solution to REAL problems of this world

    Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.

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    Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.
     
    Agree, in principle.

    There are real and mounting problems in West.
    It feels as powers that be aren't keen on addressing those problems.
    When I said problems, I meant "problems for lower 60 % of society". Higher you go those problems stop being problems and start becoming opportunities and even benefits.

    So, you have rising resentment of the current state by those 60 %.
    You have to address it....MANAGE it......not change....manage. Keep the system going, of course, because ti benefits you, but you do have to manage that resentment.

    First it come breads and circuses...a bit of carrot.
    Then a bit of stick (surveillance and police state).

    Then you sacrifice a pawn; one of your own.
    'They did all this to you. We just get rid of them and all will be fine..all will be back as before when you were happy..We..will..be...great...again....".

    This "Jews did it all" thing just feels that way.
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  • @geokat62

    ...piss on hoi poi, I got mine.
     
    What the heck is"hoi poi"? Is it some kind of Vietnamese dish that is so bad people usually end up pissing on it?

    Or, maybe, you meant "hoi polloi" - Greek for "the many"?

    What the heck is”hoi poi”? Is it some kind of Vietnamese dish… ?

    Sorta. It’s how PC round eye tourists in Saigon try to order Vietnamese hot pot.

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  • I am not entirely sure what you mean by “try to find a way out of it all”.

    Well….I was thinking along the lines of you Jews, being smart and all that, could try to find a solution to REAL problems of this world. I mean, somebody should.

    If you mean an impending revolution with guillotines and the other paraphernalia destined for the elite, I should very much doubt it. The median American is getting on reasonably well, though not relative to the upper deciles; and the lower third are not suffering the conditions of the sans culottes viewed from the perch of the noblesse de l’Ancien Regime. If there is discontent, it is chiefly perceptible in the erstwhile lower ranges of the top twentieth percentile and the thirtieth percentile, i.e., your middle management and rank and file knowledge workers who find themselves increasing displaced by forces of technological change and policies which were undertaken decades earlier to offshore industrial production.

    It’s more than those I am afraid.
    Its lower strata of society, from lower middle class downwards.
    So, if we put all those together, it’s a sizeable chunk of society getting unhappy.
    I believe that social upheavals start when middle class (all layers of it) starts getting pissed off. And humans, being what they are, do like finding human target to unload all that rage on. And, as things look now, your people started appearing more and more as that target.

    I am not even sure how one goes about such re-industrialisation.

    Me neither.
    And after all these years chatting on Internet haven’t found any feasible option. Hence, maybe there is none. I don’t know.
    But what I do know is rage. Seen it…was part of it, worked with it…..and wasn’t pretty. Seen movie “Forbidden Planet”? Demon from Id?
    When a mass of people get into that state you either try to move them down with automatic weapon until even spare barrels melt, or you run away (O.K, with Gatling systems it is easier, I concede). There is no reasoning with IT.
    Maybe Americans can’t get there. Maybe they can.

    The question is who is this SOMEBODY? I’d be the first to concede that financialisation of the economy, in which my fellow co-religionists play no small part, has become the most glaring departure from what used to be a more “wholesome” society according to some.

    That’s it.
    Your people….money masters. That’s the growing perception. And that perception is all what matters.
    I HATE getting personal on Internet sites. You strike me as an “intellectual” type. A type who knows about dark sides of human nature through studying it. Books, intellectual approach. But you’ve never dealt with it face to face. You should try sometime.
    You try for a couple of seconds and then you see…feel it. And from then on it’s either you cut them down or they stomp you head into pulp. You of all people should know that.
    Do not ever overestimate a hindbrain of an average person frustrated by perceived failure in his/her life.

    Thus fractional reserve banking can be viewed as a rapid deployment strategy to harness future savings in order to promote current investments. Without those investments over the 1945-1990 period, the world would not be what it is today. Of this I am confident.

    Hehe…see…you are a smart guy.
    I don’t know much about that topic. Or, better, more I read about it more I got confused. What I do know, though, is problem solving, planning…execution. The method.
    That’s why I see all this Internet blathering just that……blathering with occasional connect with somebody you can learn a bit here and there.
    I’ve never seen, so far, the method in works there.
    Say, a world wide alt-right/whatever panel of top intellectuals discussing the issue, producing an action plan, marketing it to people (Internet) and then, forcing powers that be to do something. Having plan for that “forcing” as well.

    I do not see this changing.

    Me neither if it goes this way. But, then, everyday “little” Jews will feel the fallout. I am sure of it.

    For matters more in the context of nurturing our human condition, where the economic model is considered wanting, more of a hindrance than an aid, I am not your man. As a Jew, I am only capable of talking about simple things, not in the realm of philosophy, morality, or ethics. For that, there are better men here on this board.

    Probably. Hopefully. Not only on this board but anywhere.
    They are good at keeping silent and ineffective for the moment, though. Very good indeed.

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    find a solution to REAL problems of this world

    Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.
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  • @peterAUS

    There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required.
     
    Oh yes.... But, see, maybe the time for discussion is running out. Not here in "chat-sphere" but in real life. You guys ARE smart. So....maybe you should try to find a way out of all....that.

    BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.
     
    I agree, actually. But, see, the problem is, SOMEBODY has to be held responsible for the death of "social contract". Of, essentially, death of "upward mobility", "American dream", any expression which describes that by obeying a law and decent work a person can make his/her life better. As I sad before several times all this "Jew this/that" just......feels.....wrong. Just a feeling.

    Like blaming a junior partner, or Finance Director, for not delivering profit to small shareholders as promised. Not blaming the game (small shareholders) and taking responsibility (senior partner, Board of Directors). THAT is something of interest, maybe.

    Feels as.....scapegoating........a junior partner/Finance Director.

    Seen before.

    The king and his Jewish "money guy" fleeced the kingdom. King stupid, Jewish "money guy", well, didn't have much of a choice to start with. And when the kingdom got pissed of, voila...it's not the King, or nobles...it's that filthy Jewish "money guy". I mean, the "money guy" was definitely guilty party for sure. But not the only one. And probably not the most guilty as well.

    All this recently just......feels...........that way.

    Sorry for the delayed response, but it was Yom Kippur, which just got over.

    But, see, maybe the time for discussion is running out. Not here in “chat-sphere” but in real life. You guys ARE smart. So….maybe you should try to find a way out of all….that.

    I am not sure that we are any smarter than the rest of humanity, and no such claims are being made by Jews. I just got back to reading this blog post and thought I should respond to this entry of yours, since there is something meaningful to say here, as opposed to the rest. I confess nonetheless, I am not entirely sure what you mean by “try to find a way out of it all”. If you mean an impending revolution with guillotines and the other paraphernalia destined for the elite, I should very much doubt it. The median American is getting on reasonably well, though not relative to the upper deciles; and the lower third are not suffering the conditions of the sans culottes viewed from the perch of the noblesse de l’Ancien Regime. If there is discontent, it is chiefly perceptible in the erstwhile lower ranges of the top twentieth percentile and the thirtieth percentile, i.e., your middle management and rank and file knowledge workers who find themselves increasing displaced by forces of technological change and policies which were undertaken decades earlier to offshore industrial production.

    This is reversible in theory, but as we know, theory never quite translates into practice. I am not even sure how one goes about such re-industrialisation. It would be an effort of massive scale and a fundamental change in the attitudes of the polity towards re-tooling education and training, perhaps mirroring the model of the German state today, or that of Korea. The American liberal arts college system, I fear, is primarily a holding pen for the semi-literate, scantily mathematical, herds of barely willing youth for whom work begins to resemble a chore. And they’d much rather collect a living stipend from the state [or Soros? Revo, Lucio, and Nario, the three brothers of Marxist lore are nowhere in sight!], a few Apple gadgets thrown in semi-annually for good measure, and you’d keep them from excessive mischief. Zuck’s proposal in other words. We are rapidly moving in that direction in my reckoning.

    I agree, actually. But, see, the problem is, SOMEBODY has to be held responsible for the death of “social contract”. Of, essentially, death of “upward mobility”, “American dream”, any expression which describes that by obeying a law and decent work a person can make his/her life better. As I said before several times all this “Jew this/that” just……feels…..wrong. Just a feeling.

    The question is who is this SOMEBODY? I’d be the first to concede that financialisation of the economy, in which my fellow co-religionists play no small part, has become the most glaring departure from what used to be a more “wholesome” society according to some. Yet it was in the making whether America participated in that inevitability or not. The industrial world, post-WWII, consisting of W. Europe, Japan, and China [albeit to a lesser extent initially] was hardly going to decelerate its march forward had the US decision been to remain static. Financialisation today is little more than the logical end-result of fractional reserve banking: a vital necessity for a world in which the forces of technological advancement could simply not be met by a monetary regime stuck with a model where only current period savings finance the capacity produced by technology. Thus fractional reserve banking can be viewed as a rapid deployment strategy to harness future savings in order to promote current investments. Without those investments over the 1945-1990 period, the world would not be what it is today. Of this I am confident.

    Yet financialisation and the ensuing technological change unleashed inequality of income and wealth. Regulations, or rather the removal of certain important ones, also contributed to inequality. I do not see this changing. Trump today, is busy extending and enhancing this trend while pouring anodynes into the ears of the crowd [including your interlocutor] which voted him to power.

    Perhaps the only remedy is a more robust version of Zuckerberg’s proposal, one which somehow manages to impart a sense of achievement amongst the population not particularly critical nor entirely redundant in growing the economic output. A virtual reality augmentation, if you will.

    For matters more in the context of nurturing our human condition, where the economic model is considered wanting, more of a hindrance than an aid, I am not your man. As a Jew, I am only capable of talking about simple things, not in the realm of philosophy, morality, or ethics. For that, there are better men here on this board.

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  • …piss on hoi poi, I got mine.

    What the heck is”hoi poi”? Is it some kind of Vietnamese dish that is so bad people usually end up pissing on it?

    Or, maybe, you meant “hoi polloi” – Greek for “the many”?

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    What the heck is”hoi poi”? Is it some kind of Vietnamese dish... ?
     
    Sorta. It's how PC round eye tourists in Saigon try to order Vietnamese hot pot.
    , @iffen
    What the heck is”hoi poi”?

    Relax, I misspelled a word.

    It's not like I committed a major fox paw.

    It's not like it interferes with my Nazi recognition abilities.

    It's not like I forgot what holohoax spells.
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  • iffen:

    You can’t out-Jew the Jew.

    Unless you’re Chinese, or more accurately, China.

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  • @peterAUS

    True, one of my favorite points.

    More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.
     

    My thought and sentiment for quite some time, definitely.

    Maybe you aren't smart enough for that.
    I, personally, know I am not.

    But, and this is really, IMHO, bottom line for all this online blathering; how come that nobody came up with it so far?
    THAT is the fundamental question, a big elephant in the room, nobody wants to talk about.

    All these Web sites, forums, hundreds of thousands posts, apparently huge effort.......and no result?

    If we take into account that for most posters on Internet that's just either entertainment, socializing and online therapy, still, there is at least 10 % of smart people who could produce something.

    But all we have is "that not good, this not good, look at that...look at this....and, of course, Jews this, Neocons that...blah..blah...blah..."

    Powers that be have tons of think tanks producing position papers, plans, platforms, the works. Serious work. Serious people.
    "Alternative".......just..........endless complaining really. Nothing of substance. No effective result. Irrelevant.
    Boils down to simple .......relief.
    And then back to real life. Ruled by the PTBs.

    So, the question is "why"?

    And a possible answer is: maybe we are all just losers in the game.
    For any reason imaginable.

    We lost and now we congregate together and have our online therapy.

    Virtual fantasies that help us keep going in real life.

    how come that nobody came up with it so far?

    Capable people are doing okay (especially Jews); piss on hoi poi, I got mine.

    Hoi poi do not have the skills to organize and protect themselves.

    The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine tells us quite a bit about where “we” are vis-a-vis Jews. It is very difficult to argue against his thesis.

    You can’t out-Jew the Jew.

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  • @Thomm
    Jews are white.

    Why is that a comment? What is all this craziness about white. Do you mean Caucasian?
    We are. So are Hispanics, Arabs, persians, etc., etc. What’s the point?

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  • Get rid of the “christian-zionist” OXYMORON.
    The “rapture” Prophets for PROFIT are ANTI-Christ DEATH CULTISTS. God/Jesus put you in this LIFE to learn “soul lessons”, to increase your consciousness to the point of Redemption. Hagee and his Ilk REJECT the LIFE God gave you, and dangle a “shortcut” in front of people, just as SATAN dangled Temptation in front of Jesus. Do not follow the ANTI-Christ lies of FALSE prophets. There will be ONE Judgement Day, and NO ONE is going to “bypass” it by being “raptured”, that is a lie from Satan and his television IMPS. Their “shortcut” of cheating God’s lessons does NOT lead to Heaven, any more than cheating on school work teaches you the subject. Hagee, Robertson, the whole group, do NOT believe in anything except the MONEY they collect for leading their Flocks astray. From the Hagee church on down to Pat Robertson, it’s all ANTI-Christ. I don’t believe their savior would’ve approved of fat bank accounts & massive multi million dollar buildings. Christian institutions today represent the most perverse translation of Christianity

    http://www.jeff-goodall.com/?p=8955

    The problem, is the belief system of Christian Zionists. They believe that what Israel wants is what God wants. Therefore, it is perfectly acceptable to give the green light to whatever it is Israel wants and then conceal this from the American people. Anything, including lies, theft, even murder, is justified as long as Israel wants it. Then why did JESUS suffer on the cross!?

    With more than 50 millions members, Christians United for Israel is a major politica force in the U.S.. Its Chairman, pastor John Haggee, declared: “The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West, [...] a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ”. Have you ever LOOKED at HAGEE — at best he is a glutton ….

    “rapture” is actually a vicarious form of SUICIDE. “rapture” is an extremely SELF-ABSORBED way of saying “I am SO perfect” and anyone I dislike will be LEFT BEHIND to suffer(feel bad because I am gone) but I will revel in heaven.
    One of the major problems America faces is a large population of religious fundamentalists who have become as fanatical in their own way as any Middle Eastern Ayatollah. At present, they are caught up in their own version of the myth of the end of the world, and hope that by working to bring it about, they’ll get to sit at the right hand of their diety and to hell with everyone else. No doubt fistfights will break out over who gets to sit closest, but that is a subject for another article.
    So fervent is the belief of the mythoholics that they are ready and willing to sacrifice money, children, civil rights, freedom, even life itself (so long as it is someone else’s) to bring about the final rapture and end of the world. Never mind that the story of the Rapture appears nowhere in the Bible, but was the invention of a Civil War veteran, Cyrus Scofield. Never mind that the present-day charlatan selling this belief might be a child molester and makes money off of these fables; the seekers (and there is one born every minute) do so want to believe!
    “The Incredible Scofield and His Book” written by Joseph M. Canfield, reveals the following:Cyrus Scofield is a small time politician and career criminal. In 1873, he is forced to resign his position as a District Attorney because of crooked financial transactions that include accepting bribes stealing political contributions, and securing bank notes by forging signatures. Scofield then serves jail time for forgery charges. A heavy drinker, Scofield later abandons his wife and two daughters. His wife finally divorces the drunken crook in 1883. As so many con-men do, Scofield will then claim to have “found Jesus”. He is ordained as a Minister and then claims to have a Doctor of Divinity degree, but this degree is never verified. After several mysterious trips to Europe and New York, Scofield publishes the notated reference Bible that bears his name. scofield’s wife divorced him when he went to prison for mortgage fraud. Scofield defrauded his mother in law out of her life savings and went to prison. supposedly he was “saved” in prison and wrote his Bible notes. His “Bible” sold hundreds of thousands of copies and made him a rich man. Scofield never repaid his mother in law for the money he stole from her and per his two daughters he never paid one penny of support to either one of them.The added side notes in Scofield’s Bible inject a very weird “End Times” prophecy into Christianity.

    http://www.rense.com/general60/zcre.htm

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  • @Marty T
    As even you admit, the "native inhabitants of Palestine" are in fact Jews. There is no such thing as a "Palestinian".

    Anyway, the vast majority of American Jews voted for the anti-Iraq war candidate in 2008 over the "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" candidate.

    Giraldi clearly has an emotionally based animus toward and obsession with Jews. Good for the American Conservative.

    As even you admit, the “native inhabitants of Palestine” are in fact Jews. There is no such thing as a “Palestinian”.

    Another wet dream of the Jews. Millions of disappeared Palestinians.

    The Jew capacity for lies is unbound. What a tribal cabal of thug guilt pushers. They say your relatives killed six million of them in WWII – so you must ignore their evil today. Of course the “six million” is a lie.

    Tell the truth about them and they will attack you – call you names – threaten your livelihood.

    Clearly the Jews have an inferior thug culture.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @iffen
    They appear not to have even a platform to start with.

    True, one of my favorite points.

    More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.

    BTW, if the piece that Sam linked is true, it doesn't matter anymore.

    We's all Jews now! Same-same!

    True, one of my favorite points.

    More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.

    My thought and sentiment for quite some time, definitely.

    Maybe you aren’t smart enough for that.
    I, personally, know I am not.

    But, and this is really, IMHO, bottom line for all this online blathering; how come that nobody came up with it so far?
    THAT is the fundamental question, a big elephant in the room, nobody wants to talk about.

    All these Web sites, forums, hundreds of thousands posts, apparently huge effort…….and no result?

    If we take into account that for most posters on Internet that’s just either entertainment, socializing and online therapy, still, there is at least 10 % of smart people who could produce something.

    But all we have is “that not good, this not good, look at that…look at this….and, of course, Jews this, Neocons that…blah..blah…blah…”

    Powers that be have tons of think tanks producing position papers, plans, platforms, the works. Serious work. Serious people.
    “Alternative”…….just……….endless complaining really. Nothing of substance. No effective result. Irrelevant.
    Boils down to simple …….relief.
    And then back to real life. Ruled by the PTBs.

    So, the question is “why”?

    And a possible answer is: maybe we are all just losers in the game.
    For any reason imaginable.

    We lost and now we congregate together and have our online therapy.

    Virtual fantasies that help us keep going in real life.

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    how come that nobody came up with it so far?

    Capable people are doing okay (especially Jews); piss on hoi poi, I got mine.

    Hoi poi do not have the skills to organize and protect themselves.

    The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine tells us quite a bit about where "we" are vis-a-vis Jews. It is very difficult to argue against his thesis.

    You can't out-Jew the Jew.

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  • Another article that supports the validity of the premise of Phil’s article:

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    Are Billionaire Donors Driving Trump’s Iran Policy?

    by Eli Clifton

    President Donald Trump’s latest denunciation of the Iran nuclear deal (also known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action or JCPOA) at the United Nations was hardly a surprise. Indeed, attacking the agreement was a mainstay of Trump’s campaign rhetoric from the early days of his candidacy. But with an October 15 deadline looming for the White House to certify Iranian compliance with the deal, as the president must do every 90 days, there is growing speculation that he will not certify Iran’s compliance.

    Trump is considering this move despite the U.S. military’s assessment and International Atomic Energy Agency certifications that Iran is in compliance with the JCPOA. Also, decertification would decrease the likelihood of Iranian willingness to negotiate on the Trump administration’s stated areas of concern, including Iran’s ballistic missile program and Tehran’s support for Hezbollah, Bashar al-Assad, and the Houthis in Yemen.

    Trump is leaning in this direction to fulfill one of his campaign promises and tear up President Barack Obama’s signature foreign policy achievement.

    But a review of the statements and activities of some of Trump’s key donors also helps explain why he is considering reneging on the agreement. A small number of his biggest campaign and legal defense donors have made extreme comments about Iran and, in at least one case, advocated for the use of a nuclear weapon against the Islamic Republic.

    Bernard Marcus

    Take, for instance, Bernard Marcus, billionaire and Home Depot founder. He’s one of a handful of wealthy donors paying for legal costs incurred by Trump and Donald Trump Jr.’s attorneys as part of the probe into Russian election interference, via a Republican Party account. Marcus contributed $101,700, an amount matched by five other big donors.

    Marcus is also an outspoken critic of the Iran deal. In a 2015 Fox Business interview, he said, “when you do business with the devil you’re in deep trouble and I think that Iran is the devil.”. Marcus went on to insist that the JCPOA “is a treaty as far as I’m concerned,” which it is not, describing it as a “deadly, deadly treaty” that should have gotten a “full vote by the full Congress” and an “abrogation of the congress’s control.”

    And Marcus is happy to put his money to use in supporting groups that have opposed nuclear diplomacy with Iran. In 2015, his foundation contributed $1 million to the American Israel Education Foundation (AIPAC’s 501c3 wing), $3.5 million to the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), $75,000 to Israel Emergency Alliance, $250,0000 to The Israel Project, $350,000 to the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), and $250,000 to the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), all groups which actively opposed the JCPOA.

    Sheldon Adelson

    Marcus isn’t the biggest donor opposing the Iran deal. Casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson, alongside his wife Miriam, was Trump’s biggest single campaign supporter, sending $35 million to pro-Trump Super PAC Future 45.

    Earlier in the election cycle, Trump made clear that Adelson’s financial support came with strings attached. He mocked Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), who was courting the Adelsons. In October 2015, Trump tweeted “Sheldon Adelson is looking to give big dollars to [Marco] Rubio because he feels he can mold him into the perfect little puppet. I agree!”

    Trump didn’t say why Adelson wanted to use Rubio, but in 2012 Newt Gingrich said that Adelson’s “central value” is unconditional support for Israel, specifically its right-wing Likud party and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (the two have reportedly experienced a falling out over the past three months).

    Adelson was treated as a guest of honor when the Israeli prime minister delivered a March 2015 speech before Congress to blast the Iran deal, a rare moment in which Netanyahu appeared to be dabbling in partisan politics and throwing into question the bipartisan support usually enjoyed by Israeli leaders on Capitol Hill.

    Adelson, like Marcus and Singer, has given generously to groups opposing the JCPOA, contributing at least $1.5 million to the FDD by the end of the group’s 2011 tax year. In 2015, his foundation contributed $400,000 to Christians United for Israel (CUFI), $50,000 to the David Horowitz Freedom Center, $100,000 to the Endowment for Middle East Truth (EMET), $7.45 million to the Israeli American Council, $250,000 to JINSA, $1.47 million to Shmuley Boteach’s The World Jewish Values Network, and $1 million to the ZOA, all groups that have opposed the JCPOA.

    And the Las Vegas-based billionaire makes no secret of what he considers a preferable approach toward the Islamic Republic, telling a Yeshiva University audience in 2013 that U.S. negotiators should launch a nuclear weapon at the Islamic Republic as a negotiating tactic.

    Paul Singer

    Although less outspoken than Marcus or Adelson and an early opponent of Trump’s candidacy, hedge-fund billionaire Paul Singer opened his wallet to Trump’s inaugural committee, contributing $1 million, while simultaneously funding a number of groups opposed to the Iran deal.

    Politico reported that Singer was included in a White House meeting of key donors in June.

    In 2015, Singer’s foundation made a number of contributions to groups opposed to the Iran deal, including, $2 million to the American Israel Education Foundation, $150,000 to the Israel Emergency Alliance, and $118,982 to JINSA. Singer, according to The Atlantic, was the primary donor to the Foreign Policy Initiative, a small neoconservative think tank with a hawkish foreign policy agenda, before withdrawing his funding last summer.

    A 2011 donor roll from the FDD showed that Singer had contributed at least $3.6 million to the group.

    Trump’s Turnabout

    Trump told the Republican Jewish Coalition, of which Adelson, Singer, and Marcus are all members, in a December 2015 meeting that:

    You’re not gonna support me because I don’t want your money. You want to control your politicians; that’s fine. …I do want your support, but I don’t want your money.

    But he promptly went back on his word when he accepted their support for his candidacy once he had secured the nomination.

    Marcus, Adelson, and Singer would not be the first political donors, as Trump readily admits, to seek a return on their investments.

    http://lobelog.com/are-billionaire-donors-driving-trumps-iran-policy/

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  • Another fantastic article by Phil Weiss, who some would describe as a “self-loathing creature” for revealing the truth. While I’ve provided an excerpt of the first few paragraphs below, it’s worth reading the entire article:

    Three megadonors (who just happen to love Israel) are pushing Trump against Iran deal

    You’d think that in Year 15 of the Iraq debacle, neoconservative would be a dirty word in America; but neoconservatives are having a field day! Phil Giraldi’s article blaming American Jews for stoking the “war engine,” followed by Valerie Plame’s retweet of the article, has given neocons (adherents of a hawkish ideology that came out of the Jewish community) an opportunity to grandstand about the supposed anti-semitism of the antiwar community.

    Bret Stephens in the New York Times and Jamie Kirchick are using the occasion to paint all critics of the Israel lobby as anti-Semites. So is Israel lobbyist Omri Ceren.

    The righteous outbursts could not be coming at a worse time. Donald Trump seems to be leaning toward decertifying the Iran deal, and the Israel lobby is hard at work to make that happen. Trump is “clearly listening to the hawks on Iran, not the realists,” says Scott McConnell, in the National Interest, and he sees a financial angle in the policy-making.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/09/megadonors-pushing-against/

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  • @Jus' Sayin'...
    One of the great triumphs of Zionism is its success at conflating Zionism with Judaism. In some sense Zionism is the antithesis of Judaism. Zionism is the suicidal ideology that seeks to replace the native inhabitants of Palestine with alien Jews. These Jews will then be surrounded by implacable enemies who will sooner or later wipe them out. Throughout their history, Jews have had a fatal attraction to this kind of zealotry. It's why Jews have a fascination with communism and it's what got the Jews booted out of Palestine, in the first place, nearly two thousand years ago.

    As even you admit, the “native inhabitants of Palestine” are in fact Jews. There is no such thing as a “Palestinian”.

    Anyway, the vast majority of American Jews voted for the anti-Iraq war candidate in 2008 over the “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” candidate.

    Giraldi clearly has an emotionally based animus toward and obsession with Jews. Good for the American Conservative.

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    As even you admit, the “native inhabitants of Palestine” are in fact Jews. There is no such thing as a “Palestinian”.

    Another wet dream of the Jews. Millions of disappeared Palestinians.

    The Jew capacity for lies is unbound. What a tribal cabal of thug guilt pushers. They say your relatives killed six million of them in WWII - so you must ignore their evil today. Of course the "six million" is a lie.

    Tell the truth about them and they will attack you - call you names - threaten your livelihood.

    Clearly the Jews have an inferior thug culture.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  • @peterAUS

    I don’t buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.
     
    Now they are.

    But it started with serving the Power.
    The problem with that Power was.....it was.....not wise.
    It used "Jew thing" to create and maintain own credibility.
    Well, the "Jew thing", by its very nature, serves Jews better than that Power.
    So, in time Jews took over.

    It helps, when dealing with an opponent, to put yourself in his/her shoes.

    All this......rage..........irrational outbursts..........against Jews does NOT do that.

    It's expected.

    Americans, for all their knowledge, capability and power are not wise.

    They are now dealing with something that most of other peoples of this world have been dealing for millennia.

    So, Americans have a new problem, and they deal with wise people (in that game) who have been developing their game for millennia in most adverse conditions.
    The masters of the game.

    In any case it's interesting to watch all that.

    And, I am not quite sure Americans ("deplorables" that is) are going to win this one.

    They appear not to have even a platform to start with.
    The opponent has it all sassed out in minute detail.

    So.....

    They appear not to have even a platform to start with.

    True, one of my favorite points.

    More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.

    BTW, if the piece that Sam linked is true, it doesn’t matter anymore.

    We’s all Jews now! Same-same!

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    True, one of my favorite points.

    More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.
     

    My thought and sentiment for quite some time, definitely.

    Maybe you aren't smart enough for that.
    I, personally, know I am not.

    But, and this is really, IMHO, bottom line for all this online blathering; how come that nobody came up with it so far?
    THAT is the fundamental question, a big elephant in the room, nobody wants to talk about.

    All these Web sites, forums, hundreds of thousands posts, apparently huge effort.......and no result?

    If we take into account that for most posters on Internet that's just either entertainment, socializing and online therapy, still, there is at least 10 % of smart people who could produce something.

    But all we have is "that not good, this not good, look at that...look at this....and, of course, Jews this, Neocons that...blah..blah...blah..."

    Powers that be have tons of think tanks producing position papers, plans, platforms, the works. Serious work. Serious people.
    "Alternative".......just..........endless complaining really. Nothing of substance. No effective result. Irrelevant.
    Boils down to simple .......relief.
    And then back to real life. Ruled by the PTBs.

    So, the question is "why"?

    And a possible answer is: maybe we are all just losers in the game.
    For any reason imaginable.

    We lost and now we congregate together and have our online therapy.

    Virtual fantasies that help us keep going in real life.

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  • Honorable Mr. Philip Giraldi! Thanks for your courage. Your article is good minded and gives a solution to solve the problem, but as you mention “As none of the above is likely to happen” there is at least the hope remaining . Nevertheless all readers are enriched by your strength and your clarity. This article is providing a lot of energy for fighting against the devil..

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  • @iffen
    serve the Power and get the benefit.

    I don't buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.

    being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.


    If they are still afraid of Ivan because Ivan only works for the week-end, why don't they just give Ivan what he needs?

    I don’t buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.

    Now they are.

    But it started with serving the Power.
    The problem with that Power was…..it was…..not wise.
    It used “Jew thing” to create and maintain own credibility.
    Well, the “Jew thing”, by its very nature, serves Jews better than that Power.
    So, in time Jews took over.

    It helps, when dealing with an opponent, to put yourself in his/her shoes.

    All this……rage……….irrational outbursts……….against Jews does NOT do that.

    It’s expected.

    Americans, for all their knowledge, capability and power are not wise.

    They are now dealing with something that most of other peoples of this world have been dealing for millennia.

    So, Americans have a new problem, and they deal with wise people (in that game) who have been developing their game for millennia in most adverse conditions.
    The masters of the game.

    In any case it’s interesting to watch all that.

    And, I am not quite sure Americans (“deplorables” that is) are going to win this one.

    They appear not to have even a platform to start with.
    The opponent has it all sassed out in minute detail.

    So…..

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    They appear not to have even a platform to start with.

    True, one of my favorite points.

    More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.

    BTW, if the piece that Sam linked is true, it doesn't matter anymore.

    We's all Jews now! Same-same!
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  • @iffen

    but always loyal to the State.

    It doesn’t help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.
     
    Allow me to correct this observation.

    It may not be a good thing for Jews to be seen as loyal to "the State" or "the Crown" as opposed to being loyal to the nation, to the people.

    Yeah, that’s the problem Joseph’s people had with the Egyptians.

    And Chmielnicki’s problem, come to think of it.

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  • @iffen
    serve the Power and get the benefit.

    I don't buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.

    being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.


    If they are still afraid of Ivan because Ivan only works for the week-end, why don't they just give Ivan what he needs?

    It couldn’t happen in Poland until Chmielnicki happened first.

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  • @peterAUS

    Feels as they are getting……..slightly anxious.

    What supports this opinion?
     
    Isn't that obvious?
    The approach to the "hate speech" we see recently, among other things.
    Trying to nip the issue in bud before it spreads out.

    So why are most of them doubling down on the other side?

     

    You mean on the side of the Establishment?

    Well.....that's very interesting question.
    Multiple reasons I guess.
    From being Satan spawn to clueless kids....
    One of reasons, though, could be.....what choice do they have?
    When dealing with the Establishment it's simple: serve the Power and get the benefit. There is certain logic, predictability there.
    When dealing with ....sort of....movement against Establishment, as it is now, one doesn't have that predictability there . There is certain....irrationality....there.
    They, being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with "power and greed" then "irrational, emotional, angry crowd".
    Something like that.
    I suspect.

    serve the Power and get the benefit.

    I don’t buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.

    being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.

    If they are still afraid of Ivan because Ivan only works for the week-end, why don’t they just give Ivan what he needs?

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    It couldn't happen in Poland until Chmielnicki happened first.
    , @peterAUS

    I don’t buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.
     
    Now they are.

    But it started with serving the Power.
    The problem with that Power was.....it was.....not wise.
    It used "Jew thing" to create and maintain own credibility.
    Well, the "Jew thing", by its very nature, serves Jews better than that Power.
    So, in time Jews took over.

    It helps, when dealing with an opponent, to put yourself in his/her shoes.

    All this......rage..........irrational outbursts..........against Jews does NOT do that.

    It's expected.

    Americans, for all their knowledge, capability and power are not wise.

    They are now dealing with something that most of other peoples of this world have been dealing for millennia.

    So, Americans have a new problem, and they deal with wise people (in that game) who have been developing their game for millennia in most adverse conditions.
    The masters of the game.

    In any case it's interesting to watch all that.

    And, I am not quite sure Americans ("deplorables" that is) are going to win this one.

    They appear not to have even a platform to start with.
    The opponent has it all sassed out in minute detail.

    So.....

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  • Feels as they are getting……..slightly anxious.

    What supports this opinion?

    Isn’t that obvious?
    The approach to the “hate speech” we see recently, among other things.
    Trying to nip the issue in bud before it spreads out.

    So why are most of them doubling down on the other side?

    You mean on the side of the Establishment?

    Well…..that’s very interesting question.
    Multiple reasons I guess.
    From being Satan spawn to clueless kids….
    One of reasons, though, could be…..what choice do they have?
    When dealing with the Establishment it’s simple: serve the Power and get the benefit. There is certain logic, predictability there.
    When dealing with ….sort of….movement against Establishment, as it is now, one doesn’t have that predictability there . There is certain….irrationality….there.
    They, being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.
    Something like that.
    I suspect.

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    serve the Power and get the benefit.

    I don't buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.

    being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.


    If they are still afraid of Ivan because Ivan only works for the week-end, why don't they just give Ivan what he needs?
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  • @peterAUS

    I think America is different. It can’t happen here.
     
    You mean blaming Jews for the current ills of society?

    Sure........

    Because America is........special. Because Americans are.........special. Unique in their qualities. Not as the rest of the world.

    You joking?

    Looks to me as Jews aren't getting the joke. Feels as they are getting........slightly anxious.

    They are probably wrong. I mean...what are they basing their concern on? A couple of thousand years of experience? They should rely on "special quality" of American people The country with, what, around 200 years of history behind it. Doubt it, somehow.

    Besides, that America (the land of opportunity) ain't there anymore.

    So...as always, WHY?

    An average American is going to study the topics, get into deep introspection and act upon the result of all that mental...even spiritual work?

    Sure........

    Or he/she is going to blame the current guy percieved to be on the top? Especially if that guy is slightly....different. And especially if some other powerful guy is saying so. A guy who feels less different. And especially if that guy is perceived as a good guy. A guy who brought that good life he/she had before. As some people here keep saying: we just get rid of Jews and we'll get back to when things were good. Simple, clear....marketable and sell-able solution. For crowds. And that is all what matters.

    I somehow believe that Jews would put their money on the later.

    You joking?

    No, I think we are different, politically and demographically.

    Feels as they are getting……..slightly anxious.

    What supports this opinion? (Don’t cite Sam’s recent trend toward outrageousness in his comments.)

    I somehow believe that Jews would put their money on the later.

    So why are most of them doubling down on the other side?

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  • @iffen
    but always loyal to the State.

    I doesn't help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.

    but always loyal to the State.

    It doesn’t help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.

    Allow me to correct this observation.

    It may not be a good thing for Jews to be seen as loyal to “the State” or “the Crown” as opposed to being loyal to the nation, to the people.

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    Yeah, that's the problem Joseph's people had with the Egyptians.

    And Chmielnicki's problem, come to think of it.
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  • I guess it is now time to cancel my TAC on-line subscription. If TAC feels like it should fire PG for this, then they obviously no longer represent true conservatives. I may not agree with all of his assessments, but I stand by his right to discuss these things.

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  • I think America is different. It can’t happen here.

    You mean blaming Jews for the current ills of society?

    Sure……..

    Because America is……..special. Because Americans are………special. Unique in their qualities. Not as the rest of the world.

    You joking?

    Looks to me as Jews aren’t getting the joke. Feels as they are getting……..slightly anxious.

    They are probably wrong. I mean…what are they basing their concern on? A couple of thousand years of experience? They should rely on “special quality” of American people The country with, what, around 200 years of history behind it. Doubt it, somehow.

    Besides, that America (the land of opportunity) ain’t there anymore.

    So…as always, WHY?

    An average American is going to study the topics, get into deep introspection and act upon the result of all that mental…even spiritual work?

    Sure……..

    Or he/she is going to blame the current guy percieved to be on the top? Especially if that guy is slightly….different. And especially if some other powerful guy is saying so. A guy who feels less different. And especially if that guy is perceived as a good guy. A guy who brought that good life he/she had before. As some people here keep saying: we just get rid of Jews and we’ll get back to when things were good. Simple, clear….marketable and sell-able solution. For crowds. And that is all what matters.

    I somehow believe that Jews would put their money on the later.

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    You joking?

    No, I think we are different, politically and demographically.

    Feels as they are getting……..slightly anxious.

    What supports this opinion? (Don't cite Sam's recent trend toward outrageousness in his comments.)

    I somehow believe that Jews would put their money on the later.

    So why are most of them doubling down on the other side?

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  • @peterAUS

    There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required.
     
    Oh yes.... But, see, maybe the time for discussion is running out. Not here in "chat-sphere" but in real life. You guys ARE smart. So....maybe you should try to find a way out of all....that.

    BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.
     
    I agree, actually. But, see, the problem is, SOMEBODY has to be held responsible for the death of "social contract". Of, essentially, death of "upward mobility", "American dream", any expression which describes that by obeying a law and decent work a person can make his/her life better. As I sad before several times all this "Jew this/that" just......feels.....wrong. Just a feeling.

    Like blaming a junior partner, or Finance Director, for not delivering profit to small shareholders as promised. Not blaming the game (small shareholders) and taking responsibility (senior partner, Board of Directors). THAT is something of interest, maybe.

    Feels as.....scapegoating........a junior partner/Finance Director.

    Seen before.

    The king and his Jewish "money guy" fleeced the kingdom. King stupid, Jewish "money guy", well, didn't have much of a choice to start with. And when the kingdom got pissed of, voila...it's not the King, or nobles...it's that filthy Jewish "money guy". I mean, the "money guy" was definitely guilty party for sure. But not the only one. And probably not the most guilty as well.

    All this recently just......feels...........that way.

    All this recently just……feels………..that way.

    The Jews have been through this before, in Europe and Russia.

    I think America is different. It can’t happen here.

    I’m not sure that if I was Jewish I would rely upon iffen’s intuition.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Permit me to make a small observation, Iffen. I am confident that any person uninitiated to the customs and themes on offer at UR, especially in PG's pieces, would arrive at a conclusion the contours of which I needn't leave to your imagination. This address, additionally, has the potential to delude the unmindful. There are some truths to be gleaned here, yet most of it rendered outre through vicious zeal and outright mendacity; and, as all conspiracies, entirely self-perpetuating in their outlandishness.

    Ethan's reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one's position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her's. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.

    Iffen, apologies, but I'll use this space for a general message:
    General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR - a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?

    9:00 am Berlin – a statement by Herr Samuel Shamaberg on October 29, 1929,

    General message to snivelers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of German life and business today. What of it?

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @Sam Shama
    There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required. BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.

    This bit:

    The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it’s police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.

    So…either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem “out of it”.
     

    is crudely true and I believe we've thought about it once in a while

    There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required.

    Oh yes…. But, see, maybe the time for discussion is running out. Not here in “chat-sphere” but in real life. You guys ARE smart. So….maybe you should try to find a way out of all….that.

    BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.

    I agree, actually. But, see, the problem is, SOMEBODY has to be held responsible for the death of “social contract”. Of, essentially, death of “upward mobility”, “American dream”, any expression which describes that by obeying a law and decent work a person can make his/her life better. As I sad before several times all this “Jew this/that” just……feels…..wrong. Just a feeling.

    Like blaming a junior partner, or Finance Director, for not delivering profit to small shareholders as promised. Not blaming the game (small shareholders) and taking responsibility (senior partner, Board of Directors). THAT is something of interest, maybe.

    Feels as…..scapegoating……..a junior partner/Finance Director.

    Seen before.

    The king and his Jewish “money guy” fleeced the kingdom. King stupid, Jewish “money guy”, well, didn’t have much of a choice to start with. And when the kingdom got pissed of, voila…it’s not the King, or nobles…it’s that filthy Jewish “money guy”. I mean, the “money guy” was definitely guilty party for sure. But not the only one. And probably not the most guilty as well.

    All this recently just……feels………..that way.

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    All this recently just……feels………..that way.

    The Jews have been through this before, in Europe and Russia.

    I think America is different. It can't happen here.

    I'm not sure that if I was Jewish I would rely upon iffen's intuition.

    , @Sam Shama
    Sorry for the delayed response, but it was Yom Kippur, which just got over.

    But, see, maybe the time for discussion is running out. Not here in “chat-sphere” but in real life. You guys ARE smart. So….maybe you should try to find a way out of all….that.
     
    I am not sure that we are any smarter than the rest of humanity, and no such claims are being made by Jews. I just got back to reading this blog post and thought I should respond to this entry of yours, since there is something meaningful to say here, as opposed to the rest. I confess nonetheless, I am not entirely sure what you mean by "try to find a way out of it all". If you mean an impending revolution with guillotines and the other paraphernalia destined for the elite, I should very much doubt it. The median American is getting on reasonably well, though not relative to the upper deciles; and the lower third are not suffering the conditions of the sans culottes viewed from the perch of the noblesse de l'Ancien Regime. If there is discontent, it is chiefly perceptible in the erstwhile lower ranges of the top twentieth percentile and the thirtieth percentile, i.e., your middle management and rank and file knowledge workers who find themselves increasing displaced by forces of technological change and policies which were undertaken decades earlier to offshore industrial production.

    This is reversible in theory, but as we know, theory never quite translates into practice. I am not even sure how one goes about such re-industrialisation. It would be an effort of massive scale and a fundamental change in the attitudes of the polity towards re-tooling education and training, perhaps mirroring the model of the German state today, or that of Korea. The American liberal arts college system, I fear, is primarily a holding pen for the semi-literate, scantily mathematical, herds of barely willing youth for whom work begins to resemble a chore. And they'd much rather collect a living stipend from the state [or Soros? Revo, Lucio, and Nario, the three brothers of Marxist lore are nowhere in sight!], a few Apple gadgets thrown in semi-annually for good measure, and you'd keep them from excessive mischief. Zuck's proposal in other words. We are rapidly moving in that direction in my reckoning.


    I agree, actually. But, see, the problem is, SOMEBODY has to be held responsible for the death of “social contract”. Of, essentially, death of “upward mobility”, “American dream”, any expression which describes that by obeying a law and decent work a person can make his/her life better. As I said before several times all this “Jew this/that” just……feels…..wrong. Just a feeling.
     
    The question is who is this SOMEBODY? I'd be the first to concede that financialisation of the economy, in which my fellow co-religionists play no small part, has become the most glaring departure from what used to be a more "wholesome" society according to some. Yet it was in the making whether America participated in that inevitability or not. The industrial world, post-WWII, consisting of W. Europe, Japan, and China [albeit to a lesser extent initially] was hardly going to decelerate its march forward had the US decision been to remain static. Financialisation today is little more than the logical end-result of fractional reserve banking: a vital necessity for a world in which the forces of technological advancement could simply not be met by a monetary regime stuck with a model where only current period savings finance the capacity produced by technology. Thus fractional reserve banking can be viewed as a rapid deployment strategy to harness future savings in order to promote current investments. Without those investments over the 1945-1990 period, the world would not be what it is today. Of this I am confident.

    Yet financialisation and the ensuing technological change unleashed inequality of income and wealth. Regulations, or rather the removal of certain important ones, also contributed to inequality. I do not see this changing. Trump today, is busy extending and enhancing this trend while pouring anodynes into the ears of the crowd [including your interlocutor] which voted him to power.

    Perhaps the only remedy is a more robust version of Zuckerberg's proposal, one which somehow manages to impart a sense of achievement amongst the population not particularly critical nor entirely redundant in growing the economic output. A virtual reality augmentation, if you will.

    For matters more in the context of nurturing our human condition, where the economic model is considered wanting, more of a hindrance than an aid, I am not your man. As a Jew, I am only capable of talking about simple things, not in the realm of philosophy, morality, or ethics. For that, there are better men here on this board.

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  • @Sam Shama
    There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required. BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.

    This bit:

    The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it’s police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.

    So…either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem “out of it”.
     

    is crudely true and I believe we've thought about it once in a while

    but always loyal to the State.

    I doesn’t help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.

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    but always loyal to the State.

    It doesn’t help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.
     
    Allow me to correct this observation.

    It may not be a good thing for Jews to be seen as loyal to "the State" or "the Crown" as opposed to being loyal to the nation, to the people.
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  • @peterAUS

    Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it?
     
    Well....well......

    A couple of things out of it.

    First, your group is seen as a competitor in the power game. Not a victim, not a group to be careful about because of all those bad things that happened to it, but a competitor. That's for power players. Your "smart" approach could, maybe, appease those other players. Worked well so far. But maybe you just got too successful?

    Second, for the common people. In the current world (1 %, destruction of middle class and the works) your group, as the top group in the game is then perceived responsible for all that. All the.....rage....at the current paradigm goes against your group. What is that hard to understand about it I wonder? Your "smart" approach does not work here. The world here is crude, simple and hard. Nor erudite spinning works here.

    So....you have a problem. Your group, and then of course, implicitly you.

    You are also smart enough to understand that what protects you, really, is a collusion with Anglo-Saxon group. While your group controls "smarts" of the system, they control "tools" of it. The power of the state. Police...military.....guns....The things that, ultimately, really matter in the game of power. Nobody would give a shit about saying what he/she thinks about Jews if it weren't for the power of the state. Don't delude yourself for a second that control of finance, media, educational system and such gives you the power. The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it's police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.

    So...either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem "out of it".

    There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required. BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.

    This bit:

    The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it’s police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.

    So…either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem “out of it”.

    is crudely true and I believe we’ve thought about it once in a while

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    but always loyal to the State.

    I doesn't help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.
    , @peterAUS

    There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required.
     
    Oh yes.... But, see, maybe the time for discussion is running out. Not here in "chat-sphere" but in real life. You guys ARE smart. So....maybe you should try to find a way out of all....that.

    BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.
     
    I agree, actually. But, see, the problem is, SOMEBODY has to be held responsible for the death of "social contract". Of, essentially, death of "upward mobility", "American dream", any expression which describes that by obeying a law and decent work a person can make his/her life better. As I sad before several times all this "Jew this/that" just......feels.....wrong. Just a feeling.

    Like blaming a junior partner, or Finance Director, for not delivering profit to small shareholders as promised. Not blaming the game (small shareholders) and taking responsibility (senior partner, Board of Directors). THAT is something of interest, maybe.

    Feels as.....scapegoating........a junior partner/Finance Director.

    Seen before.

    The king and his Jewish "money guy" fleeced the kingdom. King stupid, Jewish "money guy", well, didn't have much of a choice to start with. And when the kingdom got pissed of, voila...it's not the King, or nobles...it's that filthy Jewish "money guy". I mean, the "money guy" was definitely guilty party for sure. But not the only one. And probably not the most guilty as well.

    All this recently just......feels...........that way.
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  • @Svigor
    To sum up my previous comment; not only are diaspora Jews way more "leftist" and "anti-racist" than White Americans, they're also way more "rightist" and "racist" than White Americans. The only way to square this circle is Jewish Supremacy; Jews do what's "good for the Jews." In the diaspora, as a minority, that means pushing leftism and "anti-racism." In Israel, as a majority, that means pushing rightism and "racism." Globally, it means a strong alliance between the two camps.

    That's Jewish White Supremacy, plain and simple. There's no better explanation (Occam's Razor certainly agrees).

    Now, are Jews, in the main and in the aggregate, conscious of this? No. They're masters of rationalization, compartmentalization, self-deception, etc. And one of the least ethnically introspective groups on the planet, after correcting for IQ (usually it's stupid people who share that trait). And the major convenience of Jewish Culture is, if you criticize them, question them, or bring this stuff to their attention, you're an antisemtic Nazi who wants to kill 6 million more. Basically, their Jewish White Supremacist culture is hardened, weaponized, and impenetrable to criticism.

    Jews fucking know I'm right. They always run from me or ignore me after a few exchanges. They're too ethnocentric and in love with themselves to handle an honest discussion of this issue.

    Iffen, apologies, but I’ll use this space for a general message:
    General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR – a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?
     
    If diaspora Jews divest from the sniveling Israeli Jewish race, which bars all competition from foreign goys altogether (Chinese alone would eat their lunch, otherwise), you'll have a point. But as long as Israeli Jewry cowers in fear of competition, not so much.

    Makes sense?
     
    No. Empirical knowledge is still FTW.

    They always run from me or ignore me after a few exchanges.

    That’s intriguing coming from you Svigor, the man who established the ploy of unlinked responses.

    To sum up my previous comment; not only are diaspora Jews way more “leftist” and “anti-racist” than White Americans, they’re also way more “rightist” and “racist” than White Americans.

    Life is a study in duality, or did you miss that important lesson in the Talmud? For Chrissakes! Why Talmud? Our G’d the omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, the definition of perfection, was split asunder in Christianity to become a human, with all sins, including argumentativeness.

    Well, perhaps I am wrong about the duality; I should more accurately speak of the Trinity: what is the Holy ghost? Do you realise that when you chose Jesus you submittted to this Jewish paradox?

    Now, are Jews, in the main and in the aggregate, conscious of this? No.

    Are you blind? Jewish introspectiveness, or rather its surfeit, is precisely why we are usually branded neurotic. Woody Allen anyone? What about the crazy loon Jews dotting the landscape? The ones that support the BDS and the like, people like Weiss, Finklestein and their ilk?

    Basically, their Jewish White Supremacist culture is hardened, weaponized, and impenetrable to criticism.

    Humbug. Define White. Jews can be white-skinned, olive skinned, and every shade in between and beyond. Listen to Ben Shapiro. He says clearly he is White, but his wife, who is of Moroccan heritage isn’t. Jews overwhelmingly do not subscribe to any form of supremacism. When you see a plurality of Israelis expressing the view that Arabs ought to be driven out of Israel, you are witnessing rather a recent attitude precipitated by many factors.

    Jews fucking know I’m right. They always run from me or ignore me after a few exchanges. They’re too ethnocentric and in love with themselves to handle an honest discussion of this issue

    .

    They do? What’s your goal/purpose? Ask and thou shall receive.

    If diaspora Jews divest from the sniveling Israeli Jewish race, which bars all competition from foreign goys altogether (Chinese alone would eat their lunch, otherwise), you’ll have a point. But as long as Israeli Jewry cowers in fear of competition, not so much.

    “Divest from Israeli Jewish race”. Ok by that you mean Jewish Americans should stop supporting Israel, I presume. Break up AIPAC? Stop using Israeli products and technology? Why should they? The Chinese are actually increasing their collaboration with Israel [as is India], so why precisely should American Jews do the reverse?

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  • @Sam Shama
    Permit me to make a small observation, Iffen. I am confident that any person uninitiated to the customs and themes on offer at UR, especially in PG's pieces, would arrive at a conclusion the contours of which I needn't leave to your imagination. This address, additionally, has the potential to delude the unmindful. There are some truths to be gleaned here, yet most of it rendered outre through vicious zeal and outright mendacity; and, as all conspiracies, entirely self-perpetuating in their outlandishness.

    Ethan's reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one's position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her's. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.

    Iffen, apologies, but I'll use this space for a general message:
    General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR - a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?

    Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it?

    Well….well……

    A couple of things out of it.

    First, your group is seen as a competitor in the power game. Not a victim, not a group to be careful about because of all those bad things that happened to it, but a competitor. That’s for power players. Your “smart” approach could, maybe, appease those other players. Worked well so far. But maybe you just got too successful?

    Second, for the common people. In the current world (1 %, destruction of middle class and the works) your group, as the top group in the game is then perceived responsible for all that. All the…..rage….at the current paradigm goes against your group. What is that hard to understand about it I wonder? Your “smart” approach does not work here. The world here is crude, simple and hard. Nor erudite spinning works here.

    So….you have a problem. Your group, and then of course, implicitly you.

    You are also smart enough to understand that what protects you, really, is a collusion with Anglo-Saxon group. While your group controls “smarts” of the system, they control “tools” of it. The power of the state. Police…military…..guns….The things that, ultimately, really matter in the game of power. Nobody would give a shit about saying what he/she thinks about Jews if it weren’t for the power of the state. Don’t delude yourself for a second that control of finance, media, educational system and such gives you the power. The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it’s police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.

    So…either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem “out of it”.

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    There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required. BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.

    This bit:

    The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it’s police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.

    So…either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem “out of it”.
     

    is crudely true and I believe we've thought about it once in a while
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  • @geokat62
    And that's just the lives lost eliminating Iraq. I should have also added the lives lost eliminating Libya (~100,00) and almost elininating Syria (~500,000) in an effort to defend the Jewish state.

    Can’t we assume Ethan cares even less for non-American lives?

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  • To sum up my previous comment; not only are diaspora Jews way more “leftist” and “anti-racist” than White Americans, they’re also way more “rightist” and “racist” than White Americans. The only way to square this circle is Jewish Supremacy; Jews do what’s “good for the Jews.” In the diaspora, as a minority, that means pushing leftism and “anti-racism.” In Israel, as a majority, that means pushing rightism and “racism.” Globally, it means a strong alliance between the two camps.

    That’s Jewish White Supremacy, plain and simple. There’s no better explanation (Occam’s Razor certainly agrees).

    Now, are Jews, in the main and in the aggregate, conscious of this? No. They’re masters of rationalization, compartmentalization, self-deception, etc. And one of the least ethnically introspective groups on the planet, after correcting for IQ (usually it’s stupid people who share that trait). And the major convenience of Jewish Culture is, if you criticize them, question them, or bring this stuff to their attention, you’re an antisemtic Nazi who wants to kill 6 million more. Basically, their Jewish White Supremacist culture is hardened, weaponized, and impenetrable to criticism.

    Jews fucking know I’m right. They always run from me or ignore me after a few exchanges. They’re too ethnocentric and in love with themselves to handle an honest discussion of this issue.

    Iffen, apologies, but I’ll use this space for a general message:
    General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR – a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?

    If diaspora Jews divest from the sniveling Israeli Jewish race, which bars all competition from foreign goys altogether (Chinese alone would eat their lunch, otherwise), you’ll have a point. But as long as Israeli Jewry cowers in fear of competition, not so much.

    Makes sense?

    No. Empirical knowledge is still FTW.

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    They always run from me or ignore me after a few exchanges.
     
    That's intriguing coming from you Svigor, the man who established the ploy of unlinked responses.

    To sum up my previous comment; not only are diaspora Jews way more “leftist” and “anti-racist” than White Americans, they’re also way more “rightist” and “racist” than White Americans.
     

    Life is a study in duality, or did you miss that important lesson in the Talmud? For Chrissakes! Why Talmud? Our G'd the omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, the definition of perfection, was split asunder in Christianity to become a human, with all sins, including argumentativeness.

    Well, perhaps I am wrong about the duality; I should more accurately speak of the Trinity: what is the Holy ghost? Do you realise that when you chose Jesus you submittted to this Jewish paradox?

    Now, are Jews, in the main and in the aggregate, conscious of this? No.
     

    Are you blind? Jewish introspectiveness, or rather its surfeit, is precisely why we are usually branded neurotic. Woody Allen anyone? What about the crazy loon Jews dotting the landscape? The ones that support the BDS and the like, people like Weiss, Finklestein and their ilk?

    Basically, their Jewish White Supremacist culture is hardened, weaponized, and impenetrable to criticism.
     

    Humbug. Define White. Jews can be white-skinned, olive skinned, and every shade in between and beyond. Listen to Ben Shapiro. He says clearly he is White, but his wife, who is of Moroccan heritage isn't. Jews overwhelmingly do not subscribe to any form of supremacism. When you see a plurality of Israelis expressing the view that Arabs ought to be driven out of Israel, you are witnessing rather a recent attitude precipitated by many factors.

    Jews fucking know I’m right. They always run from me or ignore me after a few exchanges. They’re too ethnocentric and in love with themselves to handle an honest discussion of this issue
     
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    They do? What's your goal/purpose? Ask and thou shall receive.


    If diaspora Jews divest from the sniveling Israeli Jewish race, which bars all competition from foreign goys altogether (Chinese alone would eat their lunch, otherwise), you’ll have a point. But as long as Israeli Jewry cowers in fear of competition, not so much.
     
    "Divest from Israeli Jewish race". Ok by that you mean Jewish Americans should stop supporting Israel, I presume. Break up AIPAC? Stop using Israeli products and technology? Why should they? The Chinese are actually increasing their collaboration with Israel [as is India], so why precisely should American Jews do the reverse?
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  • @iffen
    his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality.

    He thinks I'm an anti-Semite. Is that what you consider a good grip on reality?

    More later.

    No, not that part; obviously he doesn’t know you and he’s only concluding from your recent posts written in aid of balancing matters. Although I hardly think pro-Jewish posters wrote much here to disbalance the discussion. They are reacting to the article and the usual suspects at UR.

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  • I mean let’s just review a few salient facts, just to make sure they don’t get overlooked:

    American Jews are “leftist” as Hell: 75% voted against Trump, and 72% voted for Hillary (they’re “anti-racist” as Hell, too, but I don’t have exit poll numbers for that). All other White American demographics voted for Trump, often substantially so. This is a huge disconnect between the two groups.

    American Jews are also Zionist. Zionism is the overwhelming reigning ideology of American Jews, right up there with their “leftism” and “anti-racism.” Anti-Zionism is a total fringe among American Jews. There is nothing remotely like an anti-AIPAC among Americans in general, never mind Jews in particular, to counter Jews’ AIPAC.

    Again, here are the people who American Jews are allied to, via their Zionism:

    Half of Israeli Jews think Arabs should be ethnically cleansed from Israel; 80% think Jews deserve preferential treatment in Israel

    Jews can’t defend this obvious Jewish White Supremacy. So they deny (“American Jews aren’t Zionist,” and other such obvious horseshit), obfuscate, deflect.

    Keep in mind I am criticizing from the right; I want Whites and Euros to start acting JUST…LIKE…JEWS.

    ANTISEMITISM!!!

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  • @Sam Shama
    Permit me to make a small observation, Iffen. I am confident that any person uninitiated to the customs and themes on offer at UR, especially in PG's pieces, would arrive at a conclusion the contours of which I needn't leave to your imagination. This address, additionally, has the potential to delude the unmindful. There are some truths to be gleaned here, yet most of it rendered outre through vicious zeal and outright mendacity; and, as all conspiracies, entirely self-perpetuating in their outlandishness.

    Ethan's reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one's position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her's. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.

    Iffen, apologies, but I'll use this space for a general message:
    General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR - a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?

    his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality.

    He thinks I’m an anti-Semite. Is that what you consider a good grip on reality?

    More later.

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    No, not that part; obviously he doesn't know you and he's only concluding from your recent posts written in aid of balancing matters. Although I hardly think pro-Jewish posters wrote much here to disbalance the discussion. They are reacting to the article and the usual suspects at UR.
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  • Guide for Spotting Anti-Semitic Political Writer:

    Guide for spotting the Zionist/Jewish Supremacist political writer: all his criticism is on behalf of Jews. None of his standards are ever turned against Jews.

    1) The subject seems obsessed with all things Jewish…how many articles has the person written about Jews this or that?

    No matter how obsessed any countersemite is with all things Jewish, there is always a Jew somewhere who is far more obsessed with all things Jewish.

    2) The subject claims a Jewish cabal controls X, then lists a bunch of actors involved in X, half of whom are not even Jewish. Example: The Jews control the media, just look at all the Jews in the media: Bloomberg, Murdoch (not actually Jewish), Bezos (not actually Jewish), Saban, Turner (not actually Jewish), etc etc.

    Fun fact about Bezos, the Jewish press (JTA? Can’t remember) incorrectly identified him as Jewish, had to issue a correction. Those raging antisemites in the Jewish press! *shakes fist*

    As for Murdoch, he’s just a fanatical Zionist, not a Jew. He reminds me a bit of that fake Jew in Snatch, Dough the Head. I’m prompted to wonder what’s the difference, exactly?

    3) The subject connects dots linking Jews to something, while totally ignoring all the participants who are not Jewish, or the Jews who are completely against that something. For example, subject lists all the Jewish neo-cons (and don’t forget, half the folks on his Jew list are not actual Jews), neglects to tell us about all the non-Jewish neo cons, and also neglects to mention that MOST of the Jews in congress opposed the Neo-Cons and voted against the Iraq war resolution.

    Well, if you’re making the argument that Jews are up to no good, it makes sense to focus on Jews. Somebody else being up to no good doesn’t absolve the Jews being up to no good, does it?

    But sure, let’s talk about how, say, American Whites are up to no good, just like American Jews are up to no good. There’s really no difference, right? American Jews are big-time “anti-racists” who police American Whites for any hint of ethnonationalism, even as they are politically wedded to the Jewish White Supremacist state, Israel. Similarly, American Whites are big-time “anti-racists” who police American Whites for any hint of ethnonationalism, even as… oh. I guess there isn’t that much similarity there at all! My mistake.

    4) The subject makes the claim that Jews control X, or favor Y. As if all Jews have a secret meeting where they come to a consensus on everything…..forgetting for a minute that Jews in actuality occupy the spectrum of political opinions like any other group.

    Jewish White Supremacy is baked into the Jewish cultural cake. They don’t need secret meetings; they’re raised as Jewish White Supremacists from birth.

    Jews don’t occupy any “spectrum” on denying to White Americans what Jews have for themselves in Israel; they’re all down with the program.

    5) The subject always claims self-righteously, that the MSM is trying to silence them, not because he/she is practicing obvious bigotry, but because the MSM is….controlled by….guess who….not the Armenians…….not the Greeks….getting warmer…The JEWS!

    If you don’t think the Jews effectively control Big Media, your head’s up your ass.

    P.S., Jewish guy, why don’t Jews like you ever go to bat for other groups they way you just have for Jews? Answer: because Jews are ethnocentric.

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  • @iffen
    If you are comparing the Patels running the budget motel businesses, the Vietnamese dominating the nail salon business and the Korean wig shop dominance on the one hand with the influence of Jews in the visual and print media, and the financial, economic, academic, legal and governmental sectors in the US and much of the West, you are absolutely correct; you just happen to be 3 or 4 orders of magnitude off in the importance department. (I have it on good authority that rednecks completely dominate the boiled peanut market.)

    I am not obsessed with the JQ, although the longer it takes me to climb out of this rabbit-hole weakens the certainty of that assertion.

    We actually created South Korea, and that was before Vietnam taught us how to extricate ourselves from that type of situation, so there we are.

    You need to work on your anti-Semitic detection devices. I think that there is some sort of overload in the circuitry.

    Permit me to make a small observation, Iffen. I am confident that any person uninitiated to the customs and themes on offer at UR, especially in PG’s pieces, would arrive at a conclusion the contours of which I needn’t leave to your imagination. This address, additionally, has the potential to delude the unmindful. There are some truths to be gleaned here, yet most of it rendered outre through vicious zeal and outright mendacity; and, as all conspiracies, entirely self-perpetuating in their outlandishness.

    Ethan’s reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one’s position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her’s. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.

    Iffen, apologies, but I’ll use this space for a general message:
    General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR – a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?

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    his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality.

    He thinks I'm an anti-Semite. Is that what you consider a good grip on reality?

    More later.
    , @peterAUS

    Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it?
     
    Well....well......

    A couple of things out of it.

    First, your group is seen as a competitor in the power game. Not a victim, not a group to be careful about because of all those bad things that happened to it, but a competitor. That's for power players. Your "smart" approach could, maybe, appease those other players. Worked well so far. But maybe you just got too successful?

    Second, for the common people. In the current world (1 %, destruction of middle class and the works) your group, as the top group in the game is then perceived responsible for all that. All the.....rage....at the current paradigm goes against your group. What is that hard to understand about it I wonder? Your "smart" approach does not work here. The world here is crude, simple and hard. Nor erudite spinning works here.

    So....you have a problem. Your group, and then of course, implicitly you.

    You are also smart enough to understand that what protects you, really, is a collusion with Anglo-Saxon group. While your group controls "smarts" of the system, they control "tools" of it. The power of the state. Police...military.....guns....The things that, ultimately, really matter in the game of power. Nobody would give a shit about saying what he/she thinks about Jews if it weren't for the power of the state. Don't delude yourself for a second that control of finance, media, educational system and such gives you the power. The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it's police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.

    So...either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem "out of it".
    , @Art
    9:00 am Berlin - a statement by Herr Samuel Shamaberg on October 29, 1929,

    General message to snivelers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of German life and business today. What of it?

    Think Peace --- Art
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  • Anyone who talks about “The JQ,” is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it’s disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn’t shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula….yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?

    1. No one here will defend Koreans. That’s because criticism of Koreans isn’t attacked by hyperethnocentric Koreans, or their water-carrying mopes, as “disgusting” or [special, very specific word for anti-Korean sentiment that everyone knows and fears here]. That’s because Koreans don’t have a giant hasbara team working for free in the USA.

    2. Why do Jews never talk about non-European racism? Why are they so obsessed with Europeans’ racism, Europeans’ attitudes, Europeans’ immigration policy, Europeans’ xenophobia, Europeans Europeans Europeans Europeans Europeans?

    Jews miserably fail to live up to your standards.

    Take the word “Jews,” replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I’m sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how “Koreans,” or “Armenians,” or “Italians” control XYZ.

    AND NO ONE WILL GIVE A FUCK. THERE WILL BE NO ARMY DEPLOYED TO UNPERSON HIM. THERE WILL BE NO TEAM OF KOREAN HASBARISTS UP HIS NOSE.

    They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON’T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum.

    Really, Jewish guy? Not on the issue of White Americans having for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel. The Jewish opinion on that one is pretty much monolithic: “over our dead bodies.”

    This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It’s ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I’m shocked at how un-aware some of you people are….do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany’s defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It’s insane, it’s factually incorrect, and it’s bigotry against Jews.

    Jews: “German Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.”
    Also Jews: “The idea that Soviet Jews were instrumental to the USSR’s murder of tens of millions of people, a great many of them before Hitler ever became chancellor of Germany, is antisemitism.”

    Jews: “Jewish White Supremacy (Zionism) is great, and Jews’ right.”
    Also Jews: “White ethnonationalism is bad, Whites have no right.”

    We’ve heard it all before, kiddo.

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  • My mistake, the survey is from Pew Research, not Gallup.

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  • A little more background on the Alliance for Securing Democracy and its primary objective:

    The Neocons, Again!

    So, let’s stop and unpack this Times’ reporting. First, this Alliance for Securing Democracy is not some neutral truth-seeking organization but a neoconservative-dominated outfit that includes on its advisory board such neocon luminaries as Mike Chertoff, Bill Kristol and former Freedom House president David Kramer along with other anti-Russia hardliners such as former deputy CIA director Michael Morell and former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers.

    How many of these guys, do you think, were assuring us that Iraq was hiding WMDs back in 2003?

    This group clearly has an ax to grind, a record of deception, and plenty of patrons in the Military-Industrial Complex who stand to make billions of dollars from the New Cold War.

    The neocons also have been targeting Russia for regime change for years because they see Russian President Vladimir Putin as the chief obstacle to their goal of helping Israel achieve its desire for “regime change” in Syria and a chance to bomb-bomb-bomb Iran. Russia-gate has served the neocons well as a very convenient way to pull Democrats, liberals and even progressives into the neocon agenda because Russia-gate is sold as a powerful weapon for the anti-Trump Resistance…

    So, a scramble is on to develop seemingly academic models to “prove” what Western authorities want proven: that Russia is at fault for pretty much every bad thing that happens in the world, particularly the alienation of many working-class people from the Washington-Brussels elites.

    The truth cannot be that establishment policies have led to massive income inequality and left the working class struggling to survive and thus are to blame for ugly political manifestations – from Trump to Brexit to the surprising support for Germany’s far-right AfD party. No, it must be Russia! Russia! Russia! And there’s a lot of money on the bed to prove that point.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/09/28/the-slimy-business-of-russia-gate/

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  • @Ethan
    Anyone who talks about "The JQ," is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it's disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn't shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula....yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?

    Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.

    Hilarious! The idea that US war on Korea had anything to do with protecting Koreans or their interests. ;o

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  • We can add two more groups – Alliance for Securing Democracy and InvestigateRussia.org – to the already very long list of groups that form the Zionist Lobby:

    A highly touted story yesterday from the New York Times – claiming that Russians used Twitter more widely known than before to manipulate U.S. politics – demonstrates this recklessness. The story is based on the claims of a new group formed just two months ago by a union of neocons and Democratic national security officials, led by long-time liars and propagandists such as Bill Kristol, former acting CIA chief Mike Morell, and Bush Homeland Security Secretary Mike Chertoff. I reported on the founding of this group, calling itself the Alliance for Securing Democracy, when it was unveiled (this is not to be confused with the latest new Russia group unveiled last week by Rob Reiner and David Frum and featuring a different former CIA chief (James Clapper) – calling itself InvestigateRussia.org – featuring a video declaring that the U.S. is now “at war with Russia”).

    https://theintercept.com/2017/09/28/yet-another-major-russia-story-falls-apart-is-skepticism-permissible-yet/

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  • @geokat62

    The US hasn’t shed 1 life defending the Jewish state.
     
    You're right. The US shed the lives of ~4,500 of its own servicemen and, according to some studies, the lives of over a million Iraqis defending the Jewish state.

    And that’s just the lives lost eliminating Iraq. I should have also added the lives lost eliminating Libya (~100,00) and almost elininating Syria (~500,000) in an effort to defend the Jewish state.

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  • @Ethan
    Anyone who talks about "The JQ," is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it's disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn't shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula....yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?

    Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.

    The US hasn’t shed 1 life defending the Jewish state.

    You’re right. The US shed the lives of ~4,500 of its own servicemen and, according to some studies, the lives of over a million Iraqis defending the Jewish state.

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    And that's just the lives lost eliminating Iraq. I should have also added the lives lost eliminating Libya (~100,00) and almost elininating Syria (~500,000) in an effort to defend the Jewish state.
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  • Let us congratulate the American Jews who have used their energy, intellect, passion and obsession over Israel to attain such power over the American people, government, media and our military.

    But, let us recall the words of JFK in his inaugural address, ” Those foolish enough to ride the back of the tiger to obtain power, often end up inside the tiger.”

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  • @Thomm
    Jews are white.

    I always assumed so, but actually many would deny it. Ben Shapiro seemed uncertain on the point. Mike Wallace once objected to being characterized as white. Those who are Sephardic may be of the same stock as Arabs. The Ashkenazi may be of mixed blood. Since Jewish writers tend to demonize the white race (e.g. Susan Sontag: ‘The white race is the cancer of history’) perhaps most don’t see themselves as white.

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    @iffen
    If you are comparing the Patels running the budget motel businesses, the Vietnamese dominating the nail salon business and the Korean wig shop dominance on the one hand with the influence of Jews in the visual and print media, and the financial, economic, academic, legal and governmental sectors in the US and much of the West, you are absolutely correct; you just happen to be 3 or 4 orders of magnitude off in the importance department. (I have it on good authority that rednecks completely dominate the boiled peanut market.)

    I am not obsessed with the JQ, although the longer it takes me to climb out of this rabbit-hole weakens the certainty of that assertion.

    We actually created South Korea, and that was before Vietnam taught us how to extricate ourselves from that type of situation, so there we are.

    You need to work on your anti-Semitic detection devices. I think that there is some sort of overload in the circuitry.

    Samsung and ‘the Jews of Wall Street’: Korean Takeover Fight Gets Uglier
    Anti-Semitism flares up against billionaire investor Paul Singer, painted in the press as one of a cabal of ‘ruthless’ Jews
    By Bruce Einhorn
    July 16, 2015 at 12:15:48 AM EDT

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-16/samsung-and-shylock-korean-takeover-fight-gets-uglie

    Fight over one of the world’s largest tech companies turns anti-Semitic
    A titanic row between Samsung and a hedge fund run by an American Jew sparks anti-Jewish assault in South Korean media
    A titanic row between Samsung and a hedge fund run by an American Jew sparks anti-Jewish assault in South Korean media

    By HAVIV RETTIG GUR
    July 9, 2015, 3:57 am

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/fight-over-one-of-the-worlds-largest-tech-companies-turns-anti-semitic/

    ‘Korea’s Top Expert on Jews’ Gets in on Samsung Debate
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/koreas-top-expert-on-jews-gets-in…samsung…/991956
    Jul 16, 2015 – Samsung C&T and New York investor Paul Singer have been engaged in a heated battle over the future of the telecommunications company.

    Thousands gather to mourn US Armenian er Jewish student imprisoned in North Korea
    Otto Warmbier recalled by family, friends at Ohio funeral as a spirited young man with ‘a deep desire to know God in a personal way’
    By AP and ERIC CORTELLESSA
    June 22, 2017

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/family-friends-gather-for-funeral-of-us-jewish-student-imprisoned-in-n-korea/

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    WYOMING, Ohio — Hundreds of mourners gathered Thursday to celebrate the life of a Jewish American college student who was detained in North Korea for over a year and died shortly after being returned home to Ohio in a coma.

    Otto Warmbier’s brother, sister and friends were among the scheduled speakers for the funeral Thursday at a high school in his hometown of Wyoming, near Cincinnati. A rabbi was officiating at the public service, which was closed to the news media.

    Rabbi Jake Rubin, executive director of the Brody Jewish Center at the University of Virginia, called Warmbier “one of the most intellectually curious people I’ve ever met” during the service.

    US Sen. Rob Portman, a Republican from the Cincinnati area, told the throng of reporters stationed outside that Warmbier was “an amazing young man” from a resilient family and that North Korea must be held accountable for what happened to the 22-year-old University of Virginia student, who died Monday.

    “This college kid never should have been detained in the first place,” said Portman, who previously revealed that he met secretly with North Korean officials in New York last December to press for Warmbier’s release. He said North Korea’s treatment of Otto demonstrated “a basic disregard for human rights, for human dignity.”

    Warmbier was accused of trying to steal a propaganda banner while visiting North Korea in 2015 and was later convicted of subversion. His family said they were told that he had been in a coma since shortly after he was sentenced to prison with hard labor in March 2016.

    His former soccer coach, Steve Thomas, said Warmbier came from a religious family and was involved in mission trips and a Birthright trip to Israel.

    “He had a deep desire to know God in a personal way,” Thomas said. “He wasn’t big on doing things because he was supposed to do it. He did things because he wanted to do them.”

    During his incarceration, Warmbier’s family was advised to keep his Jewish background and identity concealed while officials tried to negotiate his release, a negotiator told The Times of Israel.

    That was because the North Korean justification for his imprisonment centered on a dubious claim that Warmbier had stolen a propaganda poster in a Pyongyang hotel lobby on orders from the Friendship United Methodist Church in Wyoming, Ohio, to bring it back “as a trophy” in exchange for a used car worth $10,000.

    “We didn’t want to share it,” said Mickey Bergman, who worked on negotiations for Warmbier’s release, referring to the fact of Warmbier’s Jewishness. “The family chose, rightfully so, not to share that information while he was in captivity… because they didn’t want to embarrass [North Korea] by explaining that he actually was Jewish” and thus would not have been affiliated with the church.

    “That’s why that part of the story was kept quiet,” added Bergman, executive director of The Richardson Center, an organization founded by former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson that works to negotiate the release of prisoners and hostages held by hostile regimes.

    Warmbier was visiting the reclusive Asian nation on a New Year’s student tour in January 2016. He was arrested just before departing Pyongyang International Airport. Earlier in his trip, he was briefly detained for taking down a sign on a staff-only floor at the Yanggakdo International Hotel, where he was staying.

    Almost two months later, he appeared at a staged news conference, clearly under coercion, where he gave a tearful confession and begged for forgiveness. It was there that North Korean officials told CNN their belief of the church’s role in the incident.

    “If that’s what their story is, there’s no point fighting it if your objective is to get him out,” Bergman said. “When you realize he’s Jewish, you realize how ridiculous that claim is.”

    After Warmbier’s release last week — in a coma and suffering severe brain damage — reports surfaced that he had gone on a Birthright trip in 2014 and subsequently became active with his campus Hillel at the University of Virginia (UVA).

    During his visit to Israel, Warmbier was given a Hebrew name and wrote a blog post about his experience visiting the Western Wall in Jerusalem’s Old City for the first time.

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  • @Ethan
    Anyone who talks about "The JQ," is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it's disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn't shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula....yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?

    Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.

    Take the word “Jews,” replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I’m sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how “Koreans,” or “Armenians,” or “Italians” control XYZ.

    Ethan,

    That is an outrageous lie. No other ethnicity comes within one hundred million miles of the Jews when it comes to controlling America.

    How can you write crap like that?

    There must be some perverse motivation for you to do this.

    Think Peace — Art

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    Anyone who talks about "The JQ," is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it's disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn't shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula....yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?

    Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.

    Ethan,

    The primary reason that no one talks about the AQ or KQ is that Armenians and Koreans have been relatively reticent about airing grievance and providing suggestions for amendment of fundamental social structures. If you behave as a control freak and attention engine, please do not be surprised when the natives address the question.

    Neil

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  • @Sam Shama
    The main reason behind linking Ross' article as a response to Talha's post was to further examine what seems to me, a particularly vile idea, reminiscent of wearing the Star of David armband required of Jews back in the glory days of Germany, and thus a practice to be rationally rejected by all Americans.

    I do not agree with Ross' many views on a range of subjects, most importantly his [perhaps not overt, but unthinking] support of militant black hats in Israel. On Tikkun Olam, which requires every Jew to help heal the world, I am fully invested. To be clear, and this I mentioned to Jacques earlier, I believe any approach to the ME problem must be based on none else but uncompromised reality. It is for that reason I am deeply against BDS [which now gains support from #BLM]; for it will, on the ground, harm those it proposes to help, not to mention the corrupted roster of its actors, here, as on the Pal side.

    On Rosh Hashana, I am not aware of any prohibition on tweeting. And Plame is hardly an observant Jew if a Jew at all. I reckon she is one when she finds it effective. I suppose Ross was merely observing that her tweet could've been better timed, though I find myself shrugging my shoulders.

    [How can it be well-worn if it only appears on fringe sites? ]

    The subject of Neocon Jews fomenting ME wars has been discussed ad nauseum, including in books, like the one by Herrshiemer & Waltz, prior to by this piece on UR.

    Of course, he is piling on Plame. Frankly, I'd have given it a wide berth, especially in a major newspaper, but I guess Dennis wanted to say something, and now, Brett follows.

    [And how did he do that? White papers? Free and open discussions in all the national media of importance?]

    My impression was that Baker did not cast a particularly avuncular gaze upon Israel or toward Jews in general. It might've come as a directive of the POTUS.

    [Do you want us to understand that Irish-Americans vis-à-vis Ireland are equivalent to Jewish Americans vis-à-vis Israel? Do you want us to understand that Israel is “just like Ireland”?]

    No, I don't. Ross does apparently. I'll say what I've said before: the Jewish nation is only sixty of age, and therefore retains amongst Jews still that connection to the "mother country" as would've been the case amongst the Irish, or Italians, etc, 50-60 years after emigrating. Nevertheless, it is true that all ethnicities retain some connection with the old country for hundreds of years.

    [Maybe the difference is because missionaries don’t have a sovereign state in the ME. ]

    Everyone goes with a purpose. Missionaries to proselytise, Oilmen for oil and Jews like Ross to shape US policy in the direction they thought right.

    [Because as we all know, non-Jews can’t be committed to their community and to others, much less do they have any humanitarian obligations arising from the milieu of their community.]

    LOL. I'm quite sure he doesn't mean that. I think he presumes not to lecture anyone but his co-religionists.

    [In fact, this is actually a weakness. It would be much better to discuss the problem without engaging in mis-direction.]

    It is a bit of a misdirection.

    Parenthetically, diversity is an issue I struggle with as well. Still, here we are, and we do have a diverse nation. It's a diversity of races, religions and political views. I believe it vital that Diversity not get in the way of essential American culture. I am speaking of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and mom's apple pie. Of freedom from crony capitalism etc. It would be nice to retain America's original religious heritage, of which I have written in the past, but we shall see.

    [So, you and others who are like-minded are going to be after TAC like chickens after a Junebug?]

    Not quite sure I understand the metaphor.

    Do you want us to understand that Israel is “just like Ireland”?]

    therefore retains amongst Jews still that connection to the “mother country” as would’ve been the case amongst the Irish, or Italians, etc, 50-60 years after emigrating.

    Play It Again Sam – Sing “Six Million Lie”,

    Any comparison between the Irish, Italians, and Greeks of seventy years ago and current day Jew control of our political system is ludicrous – it is insulting – it is mendacity cubed.

    What 9/11 event did the Irish, Italians, and Greeks bring to our shores.

    What wars did America engage in for the Irish, Italians, and Greeks?

    What are the AIPAC’S associated with the Irish, Italians, and Greeks?

    I see that hasbara has descended on this tread – with thousands of words – all with a twist – a spin – a half-truth – a big lie – and all with intended malicious mendacity aimed at quelling free speech.

    I know this is wasted on you Jews but —-

    Think Peace — Art

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    Blind weasels consume everything that they find; all sorts of garbage.
     
    Care to provide just one example of the garbage I supposedly spew?

    I didn’t say that you spewed it, although I could probably find an instance of that, I said that you consumed it.

    I can’t work on your problem right now, I have to battle these hasbara types that have come on board lately. :)

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  • @Ethan
    Anyone who talks about "The JQ," is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it's disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn't shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula....yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?

    Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.

    If you are comparing the Patels running the budget motel businesses, the Vietnamese dominating the nail salon business and the Korean wig shop dominance on the one hand with the influence of Jews in the visual and print media, and the financial, economic, academic, legal and governmental sectors in the US and much of the West, you are absolutely correct; you just happen to be 3 or 4 orders of magnitude off in the importance department. (I have it on good authority that rednecks completely dominate the boiled peanut market.)

    I am not obsessed with the JQ, although the longer it takes me to climb out of this rabbit-hole weakens the certainty of that assertion.

    We actually created South Korea, and that was before Vietnam taught us how to extricate ourselves from that type of situation, so there we are.

    You need to work on your anti-Semitic detection devices. I think that there is some sort of overload in the circuitry.

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    Samsung and 'the Jews of Wall Street': Korean Takeover Fight Gets Uglier
    Anti-Semitism flares up against billionaire investor Paul Singer, painted in the press as one of a cabal of 'ruthless' Jews
    By Bruce Einhorn
    July 16, 2015 at 12:15:48 AM EDT
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-16/samsung-and-shylock-korean-takeover-fight-gets-uglie


    Fight over one of the world’s largest tech companies turns anti-Semitic
    A titanic row between Samsung and a hedge fund run by an American Jew sparks anti-Jewish assault in South Korean media
    A titanic row between Samsung and a hedge fund run by an American Jew sparks anti-Jewish assault in South Korean media

    By HAVIV RETTIG GUR
    July 9, 2015, 3:57 am
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/fight-over-one-of-the-worlds-largest-tech-companies-turns-anti-semitic/

    'Korea's Top Expert on Jews' Gets in on Samsung Debate
    www.weeklystandard.com/koreas-top-expert-on-jews-gets-in...samsung.../991956
    Jul 16, 2015 - Samsung C&T and New York investor Paul Singer have been engaged in a heated battle over the future of the telecommunications company.

    Thousands gather to mourn US Armenian er Jewish student imprisoned in North Korea
    Otto Warmbier recalled by family, friends at Ohio funeral as a spirited young man with 'a deep desire to know God in a personal way'
    By AP and ERIC CORTELLESSA
    June 22, 2017
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/family-friends-gather-for-funeral-of-us-jewish-student-imprisoned-in-n-korea/

    WYOMING, Ohio — Hundreds of mourners gathered Thursday to celebrate the life of a Jewish American college student who was detained in North Korea for over a year and died shortly after being returned home to Ohio in a coma.

    Otto Warmbier’s brother, sister and friends were among the scheduled speakers for the funeral Thursday at a high school in his hometown of Wyoming, near Cincinnati. A rabbi was officiating at the public service, which was closed to the news media.


    Rabbi Jake Rubin, executive director of the Brody Jewish Center at the University of Virginia, called Warmbier “one of the most intellectually curious people I’ve ever met” during the service.

    US Sen. Rob Portman, a Republican from the Cincinnati area, told the throng of reporters stationed outside that Warmbier was “an amazing young man” from a resilient family and that North Korea must be held accountable for what happened to the 22-year-old University of Virginia student, who died Monday.

    “This college kid never should have been detained in the first place,” said Portman, who previously revealed that he met secretly with North Korean officials in New York last December to press for Warmbier’s release. He said North Korea’s treatment of Otto demonstrated “a basic disregard for human rights, for human dignity.”

    Warmbier was accused of trying to steal a propaganda banner while visiting North Korea in 2015 and was later convicted of subversion. His family said they were told that he had been in a coma since shortly after he was sentenced to prison with hard labor in March 2016.




    His former soccer coach, Steve Thomas, said Warmbier came from a religious family and was involved in mission trips and a Birthright trip to Israel.

    “He had a deep desire to know God in a personal way,” Thomas said. “He wasn’t big on doing things because he was supposed to do it. He did things because he wanted to do them.”

    During his incarceration, Warmbier’s family was advised to keep his Jewish background and identity concealed while officials tried to negotiate his release, a negotiator told The Times of Israel.

    That was because the North Korean justification for his imprisonment centered on a dubious claim that Warmbier had stolen a propaganda poster in a Pyongyang hotel lobby on orders from the Friendship United Methodist Church in Wyoming, Ohio, to bring it back “as a trophy” in exchange for a used car worth $10,000.

    “We didn’t want to share it,” said Mickey Bergman, who worked on negotiations for Warmbier’s release, referring to the fact of Warmbier’s Jewishness. “The family chose, rightfully so, not to share that information while he was in captivity… because they didn’t want to embarrass [North Korea] by explaining that he actually was Jewish” and thus would not have been affiliated with the church.

    “That’s why that part of the story was kept quiet,” added Bergman, executive director of The Richardson Center, an organization founded by former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson that works to negotiate the release of prisoners and hostages held by hostile regimes.

    Warmbier was visiting the reclusive Asian nation on a New Year’s student tour in January 2016. He was arrested just before departing Pyongyang International Airport. Earlier in his trip, he was briefly detained for taking down a sign on a staff-only floor at the Yanggakdo International Hotel, where he was staying.

    Almost two months later, he appeared at a staged news conference, clearly under coercion, where he gave a tearful confession and begged for forgiveness. It was there that North Korean officials told CNN their belief of the church’s role in the incident.



    “If that’s what their story is, there’s no point fighting it if your objective is to get him out,” Bergman said. “When you realize he’s Jewish, you realize how ridiculous that claim is.”

    After Warmbier’s release last week — in a coma and suffering severe brain damage — reports surfaced that he had gone on a Birthright trip in 2014 and subsequently became active with his campus Hillel at the University of Virginia (UVA).

    During his visit to Israel, Warmbier was given a Hebrew name and wrote a blog post about his experience visiting the Western Wall in Jerusalem’s Old City for the first time.
    , @Sam Shama
    Permit me to make a small observation, Iffen. I am confident that any person uninitiated to the customs and themes on offer at UR, especially in PG's pieces, would arrive at a conclusion the contours of which I needn't leave to your imagination. This address, additionally, has the potential to delude the unmindful. There are some truths to be gleaned here, yet most of it rendered outre through vicious zeal and outright mendacity; and, as all conspiracies, entirely self-perpetuating in their outlandishness.

    Ethan's reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one's position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her's. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.

    Iffen, apologies, but I'll use this space for a general message:
    General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR - a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?
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  • @iffen
    Ethan says:

    Thanks for the input, Ethan, some of us here love to grapple with the JQ.

    Guide for Spotting Anti-Semitic Political Writer:


    1) The subject seems obsessed with all things Jewish…how many articles has the person written about Jews this or that?
     
    Of course this would not apply to Jewish writers who write nothing but defenses of most things Jewish.

    2) The subject claims a Jewish cabal controls X, then lists a bunch of actors involved in X, half of whom are not even Jewish. Example: The Jews control the media, just look at all the Jews in the media: Bloomberg, Murdoch (not actually Jewish), Bezos (not actually Jewish), Saban, Turner (not actually Jewish), etc etc.
     
    Well, you are getting to shakier ground here. Certainly, code words like cabal are a tip-off (blood and treasure is one of my favorites). The key word here is control. Jews are disproportionately represented in the media, greatly over-represented. Not only that, as anti-Semites and other observers note, all hell can break loose if something dear to the hearts of Jews is questioned.

    <3) The subject connects dots linking Jews to something, while totally ignoring all the participants who are not Jewish …
     
    Same disproportionality problem here as in #2.

    … neglects to mention that MOST of the Jews in congress opposed the Neo-Cons and voted against the Iraq war resolution.
     
    This is a pretty weak argument here because the outcome of votes are known to the leadership so when there is no doubt on the outcome, members can be allowed to vote for show. (Happens every day.)

    4) As if all Jews have a secret meeting where they come to a consensus on everything…
     
    No, they do it in public, right in front of God and everybody. cf. NYT>Ross>Plame

    5) … claims self-righteously, that the MSM is trying to silence them, not because he/she is practicing obvious bigotry, but because the MSM is….controlled by….guess who….not the Armenians…….not the Greeks….getting warmer…The JEWS
     
    Well, you are repeating #2 here, but who gets to decide what is obvious bigotry?

    Anyone who talks about “The JQ,” is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it’s disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn’t shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula….yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?

    Take the word “Jews,” replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I’m sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how “Koreans,” or “Armenians,” or “Italians” control XYZ. These “JQ-talking” people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON’T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There’s 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It’s ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I’m shocked at how un-aware some of you people are….do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany’s defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It’s insane, it’s factually incorrect, and it’s bigotry against Jews.

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    If you are comparing the Patels running the budget motel businesses, the Vietnamese dominating the nail salon business and the Korean wig shop dominance on the one hand with the influence of Jews in the visual and print media, and the financial, economic, academic, legal and governmental sectors in the US and much of the West, you are absolutely correct; you just happen to be 3 or 4 orders of magnitude off in the importance department. (I have it on good authority that rednecks completely dominate the boiled peanut market.)

    I am not obsessed with the JQ, although the longer it takes me to climb out of this rabbit-hole weakens the certainty of that assertion.

    We actually created South Korea, and that was before Vietnam taught us how to extricate ourselves from that type of situation, so there we are.

    You need to work on your anti-Semitic detection devices. I think that there is some sort of overload in the circuitry.
    , @Neil Templeton
    Ethan,

    The primary reason that no one talks about the AQ or KQ is that Armenians and Koreans have been relatively reticent about airing grievance and providing suggestions for amendment of fundamental social structures. If you behave as a control freak and attention engine, please do not be surprised when the natives address the question.

    Neil
    , @Art

    Take the word “Jews,” replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I’m sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how “Koreans,” or “Armenians,” or “Italians” control XYZ.
     
    Ethan,

    That is an outrageous lie. No other ethnicity comes within one hundred million miles of the Jews when it comes to controlling America.

    How can you write crap like that?

    There must be some perverse motivation for you to do this.

    Think Peace --- Art

    , @geokat62

    The US hasn’t shed 1 life defending the Jewish state.
     
    You're right. The US shed the lives of ~4,500 of its own servicemen and, according to some studies, the lives of over a million Iraqis defending the Jewish state.
    , @RobinG
    Hilarious! The idea that US war on Korea had anything to do with protecting Koreans or their interests. ;o
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  • Blind weasels consume everything that they find; all sorts of garbage.

    Care to provide just one example of the garbage I supposedly spew?

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    I didn't say that you spewed it, although I could probably find an instance of that, I said that you consumed it.

    I can't work on your problem right now, I have to battle these hasbara types that have come on board lately. :)
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  • I’ve always liked Phil Giraldi’s work at TAC, but saying that Jews should be barred from working in any U.S. government position that relates to Israel and that the media should display a “Jew alert” when ever a Jewish American appears on TV is way over the line. I’m very opposed to the Israel lobby, but how is having special rules against Jews anything other than anti-Semitism?

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  • @Ethan
    Guide for Spotting Anti-Semitic Political Writer:

    1) The subject seems obsessed with all things Jewish...how many articles has the person written about Jews this or that?

    2) The subject claims a Jewish cabal controls X, then lists a bunch of actors involved in X, half of whom are not even Jewish. Example: The Jews control the media, just look at all the Jews in the media: Bloomberg, Murdoch (not actually Jewish), Bezos (not actually Jewish), Saban, Turner (not actually Jewish), etc etc.

    3) The subject connects dots linking Jews to something, while totally ignoring all the participants who are not Jewish, or the Jews who are completely against that something. For example, subject lists all the Jewish neo-cons (and don't forget, half the folks on his Jew list are not actual Jews), neglects to tell us about all the non-Jewish neo cons, and also neglects to mention that MOST of the Jews in congress opposed the Neo-Cons and voted against the Iraq war resolution.

    4) The subject makes the claim that Jews control X, or favor Y. As if all Jews have a secret meeting where they come to a consensus on everything.....forgetting for a minute that Jews in actuality occupy the spectrum of political opinions like any other group.

    5) The subject always claims self-righteously, that the MSM is trying to silence them, not because he/she is practicing obvious bigotry, but because the MSM is....controlled by....guess who....not the Armenians.......not the Greeks....getting warmer...The JEWS!

    Ethan says:

    Thanks for the input, Ethan, some of us here love to grapple with the JQ.

    Guide for Spotting Anti-Semitic Political Writer:

    1) The subject seems obsessed with all things Jewish…how many articles has the person written about Jews this or that?

    Of course this would not apply to Jewish writers who write nothing but defenses of most things Jewish.

    2) The subject claims a Jewish cabal controls X, then lists a bunch of actors involved in X, half of whom are not even Jewish. Example: The Jews control the media, just look at all the Jews in the media: Bloomberg, Murdoch (not actually Jewish), Bezos (not actually Jewish), Saban, Turner (not actually Jewish), etc etc.

    Well, you are getting to shakier ground here. Certainly, code words like cabal are a tip-off (blood and treasure is one of my favorites). The key word here is control. Jews are disproportionately represented in the media, greatly over-represented. Not only that, as anti-Semites and other observers note, all hell can break loose if something dear to the hearts of Jews is questioned.

    <3) The subject connects dots linking Jews to something, while totally ignoring all the participants who are not Jewish …

    Same disproportionality problem here as in #2.

    … neglects to mention that MOST of the Jews in congress opposed the Neo-Cons and voted against the Iraq war resolution.

    This is a pretty weak argument here because the outcome of votes are known to the leadership so when there is no doubt on the outcome, members can be allowed to vote for show. (Happens every day.)

    4) As if all Jews have a secret meeting where they come to a consensus on everything…

    No, they do it in public, right in front of God and everybody. cf. NYT>Ross>Plame

    5) … claims self-righteously, that the MSM is trying to silence them, not because he/she is practicing obvious bigotry, but because the MSM is….controlled by….guess who….not the Armenians…….not the Greeks….getting warmer…The JEWS

    Well, you are repeating #2 here, but who gets to decide what is obvious bigotry?

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    Anyone who talks about "The JQ," is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it's disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn't shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula....yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?

    Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.
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  • @Svigor

    All this “Jews this” and “Jews that” just feels simply not quite right.

    Can’t really put my finger on it, but reminds me of blaming tobacco companies executives/marketing/sales people for smoking induced health issues.
    Or, blaming food companies executives/marketing/sales people for being overweight.

    Feels……disingenuous.
     
    Healthy people blame drug dealers more than junkies, pimps more than whores or johns. But Jews and their water carriers aren't healthy people.

    It’s not the Jews
     
    Of course not. It's never the Jews. Anything else would be antisemitism.

    This is not bigotry. This is not bigotry. This is not bigotry.

    This message will self-destruct...

    Protip: when someone says, "it's not the Jews," ask them, "what is?" 99% of the time, they will offer no answer. They can't.

    The government of Israel wants the character of Israel to be Jewish (although Rabbi Shapiro would argue, not TOO Jewish.
     
    Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds

    2016 Gallup poll shows 80% of Israeli Jews say Jews deserve preferential treatment in Israel, and 50% think Arabs should be expelled.

    Just so we have a baseline for what Israeli Jewry is, and isn't. And a good handle on what diaspora Jews willingly and enthusiastically ally themselves to, when they aren't obsessively policing anything similar from the minds of the White goyim.

    In fact, Jewish popular opinion tends, in my opinion, to be extremely stupid and self-destructive. In 2003, there were at least two states in the Middle East very hostile to Israel: Iraq and Iran. Who was the biggest enemy of Iran: Iraq. So, was taking out Iraq as a country helpful to Israel?
     
    The basic Israeli strategy is to tear down every regime around them, with priority given to regimes that show independence or hostility. I don't see how this is stupid, so much as aggressive.

    It’s not like if the Jews dropped out they wouldn’t be replaced by non-Jews.
     
    Only way to find out is to remove Jews from power and observe the results. Empirical knowledge FTW.

    the most contemptible Zionists are always the goyim.

    from George Will to Tony Blair, Paul Ryan to Marco Rubio, they’re feces-eaters and they’ll do *anything* for their bag of thirty shekels – (access to little boys from war-torn regions for Lindsey Graham, television time for John McCain, political power for Paul Ryan)

    many of the Jewish neocons at least have some shred of dignity, as their treachery is at least intended to benefit their own tribe. But the goyim who serve Israel are lower than snail slime on the scale of abased human depravities. Marco would eat the **** literally out of Sheldon Adelson’s *** for a chance to be potus. Same for Jeb and all the other goyim feces feasters.

    it is because guys like Paul Ryan are utterly without a shred of human integrity or dignity that they’ve been anointed to serve the tribe.
     
    Very true.

    Guess what, tiny? We’re ready for you this time. Just try it. I dare you.
     
    Yes, and no. Nobody's going to try to shoah the Jews of Israel. Everybody except Israel's neighbors is just fiiiiine with there being a Jewish state for Jews to go live in, trust me. No, the next threat against the Jews, as pitiful as it may be at the moment, is to the diaspora. In America's case, there is no superpower to come and save them. A distant, even phantasmal threat, perhaps, but the lack of any potential savior is worth mentioning.

    Now 3 out of 9 and, just writing on that which I know, I don’t see why you would regard Stephen Breyer’s Jewish ancestry as significant other than perhaps for the genes which equip him to be a good lawyer.
     
    Jew genes amount to more than just good lawyering.

    Israel is administratively a democracy, but it defines itself by race/blood. Any other country that did so would not only receive no US support, but would be the target of sanctions, with many American Jews leading the charge.
     
    Well said.

    Shouldn’t anti-Semites (Jewish and gentile alike) have to recuse themselves from commenting on Jews?
     
    Nick, I love ya, and I even have you on my Righteous Jews list (if only in pencil), but you're a complete nut when it comes to the Jewish Question. I'd sooner listen to Abe Foxman.

    Haha…..

    Only way to find out is to remove Jews from power and observe the results.

    You know how it sounds for, say, “outsider”? I’ll show you:

    Two partners created a criminal enterprise. Senior partner used some elements of junior partner background to enforce his legitimacy around other thugs around. In time the junior partner took over. The game suited him better; the very game the senior partner created.

    Now the senior partner is not happy. He want things as before….when HE was great, not this…junior….impostor who lost a feel for his place.

    So…he (the senior partner) says: “Things aren’t good. The only way to get them better is to remove this …impostor…”.

    Then, a little thug from periphery asks: “Excuse me Boss…but…wouldn’t then we be back to the same state of affairs when YOU were in charge? I mean…what’s there for us…really? What’s the difference?”.

    Makes sense?

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  • Guide for Spotting Anti-Semitic Political Writer:

    1) The subject seems obsessed with all things Jewish…how many articles has the person written about Jews this or that?

    2) The subject claims a Jewish cabal controls X, then lists a bunch of actors involved in X, half of whom are not even Jewish. Example: The Jews control the media, just look at all the Jews in the media: Bloomberg, Murdoch (not actually Jewish), Bezos (not actually Jewish), Saban, Turner (not actually Jewish), etc etc.

    3) The subject connects dots linking Jews to something, while totally ignoring all the participants who are not Jewish, or the Jews who are completely against that something. For example, subject lists all the Jewish neo-cons (and don’t forget, half the folks on his Jew list are not actual Jews), neglects to tell us about all the non-Jewish neo cons, and also neglects to mention that MOST of the Jews in congress opposed the Neo-Cons and voted against the Iraq war resolution.

    4) The subject makes the claim that Jews control X, or favor Y. As if all Jews have a secret meeting where they come to a consensus on everything…..forgetting for a minute that Jews in actuality occupy the spectrum of political opinions like any other group.

    5) The subject always claims self-righteously, that the MSM is trying to silence them, not because he/she is practicing obvious bigotry, but because the MSM is….controlled by….guess who….not the Armenians…….not the Greeks….getting warmer…The JEWS!

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    Ethan says:

    Thanks for the input, Ethan, some of us here love to grapple with the JQ.

    Guide for Spotting Anti-Semitic Political Writer:


    1) The subject seems obsessed with all things Jewish…how many articles has the person written about Jews this or that?
     
    Of course this would not apply to Jewish writers who write nothing but defenses of most things Jewish.

    2) The subject claims a Jewish cabal controls X, then lists a bunch of actors involved in X, half of whom are not even Jewish. Example: The Jews control the media, just look at all the Jews in the media: Bloomberg, Murdoch (not actually Jewish), Bezos (not actually Jewish), Saban, Turner (not actually Jewish), etc etc.
     
    Well, you are getting to shakier ground here. Certainly, code words like cabal are a tip-off (blood and treasure is one of my favorites). The key word here is control. Jews are disproportionately represented in the media, greatly over-represented. Not only that, as anti-Semites and other observers note, all hell can break loose if something dear to the hearts of Jews is questioned.

    <3) The subject connects dots linking Jews to something, while totally ignoring all the participants who are not Jewish …
     
    Same disproportionality problem here as in #2.

    … neglects to mention that MOST of the Jews in congress opposed the Neo-Cons and voted against the Iraq war resolution.
     
    This is a pretty weak argument here because the outcome of votes are known to the leadership so when there is no doubt on the outcome, members can be allowed to vote for show. (Happens every day.)

    4) As if all Jews have a secret meeting where they come to a consensus on everything…
     
    No, they do it in public, right in front of God and everybody. cf. NYT>Ross>Plame

    5) … claims self-righteously, that the MSM is trying to silence them, not because he/she is practicing obvious bigotry, but because the MSM is….controlled by….guess who….not the Armenians…….not the Greeks….getting warmer…The JEWS
     
    Well, you are repeating #2 here, but who gets to decide what is obvious bigotry?
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