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  • Let’s stop the pretense, please! The US American system created. perpetuated and legalized the present system and it is only by stopping the madness of their own legislative afterbarf can the crap be stopped.

    The original Europeans to USA claimed that the monarchy was an infringement of their beliefs and freedoms and they strove to destroy that monopoly only to solidify a ‘democratic monarch” based on tyranny! It means that tyranny is part and parcel of democracy when people allegedly vote to instill slavery, poverty, etc in the name of voting and it works today. They are still at work in trying to legislate their beliefs through the US Congress regarding rights of the people, by the people and for the people so nothing will change as long as this is the law of the land. Rights are not a process of majority votes but the sine qua non of a democratic nation/state

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    Darcy says:
    Equally savage? Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people). There’s a funny episode in Conrad’s Heart of Darkness where the bored and hungry African leans on the boat and stares at another African saying he like to eat ‘im. He means it.

    Interesting, because you see, actually, European "role models" have had a long history of cannibalism. Sorry to disillusion ..
    http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9026/cannibalismineurope.jpg


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    No Global Aid Society ever came to help Europeans progress. They were on their own.

    Not quite. Actually, Europeans are heavy beneficiaries numerous technological and cultural advances crucial to civilization, (from key animal and plant domestication- cattle or wheat for example, to literacy, to advanced metallurgy and a host of other items) that were put in place first by non-Europeans, and then imported along an easy East-West climate axis to Europeans to cash in on the windfall, without having to do the hard, initial, original work themselves.

    On top of this are certain geographical windfalls for Europe, as shown in detail in Jared Diamond's 1997 Guns, Germs and Steel. Other writers such as Sowell 1981 note further geographic windfalls such as navigable river systems and harbor-friendly coastlines that enabled the spread of non-European derived ideas, technology and innovation. Europeans are borrowers from, and copiers of other peoples par excellence, even in cultural products nowadays deemed "European", such as the massively influential Christian religion.

    The Christian religion by the way is the product of a sub-tropical people from the "middle east" not Europeans. These people were, wait for it, called Jews. Whoops.. Now what were you saying about all the stuff Europe supposedly "did on its own"?


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    After eliminating the worst punishments and egregious customs, Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered.
    Are you sure Europeans eliminated the most ghastly practices? Let's take a look at some pace-setting Nordics not too long ago.


    QUOTE:
    ".. at the Janowska death pits in Lvov hundreds of Jewish labourers were forced to dig up those who had been murdered and extract gold teeth and rings from the fingers of the dead. As a witness recounted: 'The fire crackles and sizzles Some of the bodies in the fire have had their hands extended. It looks as if they are pleading to be taken out. Many bodies are lying with open mouths. Could they be trying to say: ;we are your own mothers, fathers, who raised you and took care of you. Now you are burning us.' "
    -- Dan Cohn-Sherbok. 2008. God and the Holocaust. p.11

    "He called the method of mass killing he invented Sardinenpackung. As Meier describes, it involved forcing victims to lie together face down and side and side and killing them with Genickschussen, then forcing the next group of victims who preceded them to form another layer, ignoring the victims; terror and horror in the interest of efficiently filling up the killing pit. Jeckeln's despicably cruel execution protocols destroys SS claims, during and after the warm that its executions were 'correct' military-style executions of partisans. Himmler's goal was mass murder.. By the end of August 1941, commanding the Kommandostab SS First Brigade in the western Ukraine, Jeckeln had personally supervised the murder of more than 44,000 human beings, the largest total of Jews murdered by any of Himmler's virulent legions that month."
    -- Richard Rhodes. Masters of Death: The Ss-Einsatzgruppen .. 2002
     

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    Indeed, the only reason there are countless millions of SSAs, not to mention other POCs, is because of Europeans and the advances they introduced

    Funny you should mention Conrad's "Heart of Darkness." You see kind white colonialists under King Leopold killed about 10 million Africans in establishing Leopold personal fiefdom, the so-called "Congo Free State" (see Adam Rothchild's King Leopold's Ghost for the gory details). I wonder if the murdered appreciated such white "beneficence."

    According to author Hochschild- the colonial regimes own records estimate about 10 million dead from kindly European rule. Quote:


    " An official Belgian government commission in 1919 estimated that from the time Stanley began laying the foundation of Leopold's state, the population of the territory had "been reduced by half." Major Charles C. Libbrechts, a top executive of the Congo state administration for most of its existence, arrived at the same estimate in 1920. The most authoritative judgment comes from Jan Vansina, professor emeritus of history and anthropology at the University of Wisconsin and perhaps the greatest living ethnographer at the University of Wisconsin and perhaps the greatest living ethnographer of the Congo basin peoples. He bases his calculation on 'innumerable local sources from different areas: priests noticing their flocks shrinking, oral traditions, genealogies, and much more.; Hi estimate is the same: between 1880 and 1920, the population of the Congo was cit "by at least a half."..

    In 1924 the population was reckoned at ten million, a figure confirmed by later counts. This would mean, according to the estimates, that during the Leopold period and its immediate aftermath, the population of the territory dropped by approximately ten million people.

    Burned villages, starved hostages, terrified refuges, dying in swamps, orders for 'extermination' - even in crass, purely monetary terms, aren't these inefficient means of doing business? massacring huge numbers of people my frighten the survivors into gathering rubber, but doesn't it destroy the labor force? Indeed it does. Belgian administrators ordered the census in 1924 because they were deeply concerned about a shortage of available workers. 'We run the risk of someday seeing our native population collapse and disappear,' fretfully declared the permanent committee of the National Colonial Congress of Belgium that year. 'So that we will find ourselves confronted with a kind of desert.'

    --Adam Hochschild (1999) King Leopold's Ghost pg. 233
     

    Forgot about this. This person tends to sound like what I call “brown noise.” You’ve heard of “white noise”, that soporific whirring sound of no special variety. Well brown noise is the PC Bible on auto-pilot, a recording guaranteed to put you to sleep.

    You seem to think you know a lot about what was taught in the 4th grade. Doesn’t ring a bell.
    Yeah, I know the books on your high school reading list, and there is nothing you have copied & pasted that I am not already aware of. Makes the eyes glaze over. You hope it will do your arguing for you. Been there, read that. Fact remains, we don’t want the ex-Belgian Congo tipped into Europe. And why are they all dying to get into as white a country as they can find? There are no Africans around today (and it is only due to the white man’s ways that there are so many surviving) who would not want all the amenities that the whites brought in the last couple centuries. They just want them for themselves without whites. Simple but impossible. Which seems to be your dilemma. Trying to convince us that our ideas are bigoted while your opinions are righteousness itself, chock full of political/cultural/social agenda.

    Cannibalism was/is part of everyday life in parts of Africa. Even Africans talk about it, though not all engaged in it. In some areas it was ritualistic, but in Central Africa it was for food. Cannibalism also showed up in China during the Cultural Revolution (Scarlet Memorials), as a tool of political terror. Never was it used in Europe in that way, in such a public way. Even the northern Chinese were taken aback, and tried to suppress info about it until a journalist finally investigated and wrote the book. Now in Europe, you had to be insane or starving. Among American Indians, for some it was an absolute taboo even if starving; among others it was accepted.

    Diseases of unknown origin entered Europe from Asia and Africa so often that quarantine was typically one month. It was common belief, and still is, that diseases originated in Africa and other tropical areas. Bubonic plague was recorded in Africa, India, and China, long before it was recorded in Europe, whatever its origin. Europeans were right to be wary of people from those areas. Indeed, the American Indians should have put the Spaniards in quarantine. We get it. Unjust things were done. But now is now, many years later.

    The only reason various black, brown, red, and yellow peoples are deified as Eternal Victims is because they did not have the means. The will they most certainly had. That is shown in a thousand ways- these societies were replete with imaginative methods of torture and warfare, and these have been waged history, everywhere.

    Now that the whites made the modern world, we just want to opt out of being everybody’s scapegoat. Too many other candidates are ripe.

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  • @Enrique Cardova
    Your example is like taking Norway and Sweden's population and dividing it by all white people worldwide, which would include all the white population in all the South American countries. Using your own method, Norway/Sweden would not be representative of white people either.

    Then you try to compare Norway, a country already established several centuries ago -way back in the 1500s or before, with links to all Europe back then, and which has more resources and more productive agricultural terrain to work with than Botswana, a mostly desert country (70%) or Gabon with its more limited tropical agricultural base, a country barely established less than 60 years ago. Its like comparing Canada to one of those newly established countries out there, like little Vanatu island. Same thing with Gabon.

    The better comparison is to other European countries recently established, that also have limited agricultural base with good mineral resources like mining used as a primary driver. Albania only declared independence in 1912, and is one such country rich in oil and gas and forests. It is barely 100 years old just a few decades shy of Botswana. And Albania has the added advantage of being surrounded by long established countries tied into long-standing European trade networks. But Botswana and Gabon still comes out ahead. You can also take Romania- another recently established European state with independence obtained in 1878, rich in natural resources, located close to established European powerhouses and trade networks. And yet Botswana and Gabon still come out ahead.

    People can say that Albania and Romania were long established European kingdoms going back centuries too, compared to Botswana and Gabon which had minor chiefdoms, and only got independence in the 1960s. Yeah, they could say that, but even with all the advantages Albania and Romania have with being long-standing European countries, Botswana and Gabon are still ahead.

    Are you just being deliberately obtuse at this point? Botswana has some of the worst Gini coefficient rankings in the world for income inequality. Botswana has a 20% unemployment rate. Botswana has the aforementioned AIDS epidemic and crushingly low lifespan. They’ve a foreign-run diamond mining industry, a bitchin’ heavy metal scene, safaris, and little else.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/world/africa/africa-botswana-metal-heads/

    You must honestly be joking if you expect anyone to take you seriously about Albania being a resource-rich country. Albania has not even one tenth the oil production of Gabon and twice the population. Albania, really. Resource rich compared to what? Kosovo?

    Now I want you to take a look at this chart of Botswana’s exports.

    And compare it to Albania’s.

    And then to Gabon’s:

    And finally Romania’s:

    Which of these countries have actual industries and diversified economies? And which of these countries depend on resource extraction carried out by foreign corporations and have cows, wood, and fuck all else?

    Romania has 7.5% unemployment, Albania 13.5%. Botswana has around 20% and Gabon has 27%.

    What a buffonishly incompetent comparison to make.

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  • Your example is like taking Norway and Sweden’s population and dividing it by all white people worldwide, which would include all the white population in all the South American countries. Using your own method, Norway/Sweden would not be representative of white people either.

    Then you try to compare Norway, a country already established several centuries ago -way back in the 1500s or before, with links to all Europe back then, and which has more resources and more productive agricultural terrain to work with than Botswana, a mostly desert country (70%) or Gabon with its more limited tropical agricultural base, a country barely established less than 60 years ago. Its like comparing Canada to one of those newly established countries out there, like little Vanatu island. Same thing with Gabon.

    The better comparison is to other European countries recently established, that also have limited agricultural base with good mineral resources like mining used as a primary driver. Albania only declared independence in 1912, and is one such country rich in oil and gas and forests. It is barely 100 years old just a few decades shy of Botswana. And Albania has the added advantage of being surrounded by long established countries tied into long-standing European trade networks. But Botswana and Gabon still comes out ahead. You can also take Romania- another recently established European state with independence obtained in 1878, rich in natural resources, located close to established European powerhouses and trade networks. And yet Botswana and Gabon still come out ahead.

    People can say that Albania and Romania were long established European kingdoms going back centuries too, compared to Botswana and Gabon which had minor chiefdoms, and only got independence in the 1960s. Yeah, they could say that, but even with all the advantages Albania and Romania have with being long-standing European countries, Botswana and Gabon are still ahead.

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    Are you just being deliberately obtuse at this point? Botswana has some of the worst Gini coefficient rankings in the world for income inequality. Botswana has a 20% unemployment rate. Botswana has the aforementioned AIDS epidemic and crushingly low lifespan. They've a foreign-run diamond mining industry, a bitchin' heavy metal scene, safaris, and little else.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/world/africa/africa-botswana-metal-heads/

    You must honestly be joking if you expect anyone to take you seriously about Albania being a resource-rich country. Albania has not even one tenth the oil production of Gabon and twice the population. Albania, really. Resource rich compared to what? Kosovo?

    Now I want you to take a look at this chart of Botswana's exports.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Tree_map_export_2009_Botswana.jpeg

    And compare it to Albania's.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Albania_Export_Treemap.jpg/800px-Albania_Export_Treemap.jpg

    And then to Gabon's:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Gabon_Export_Treemap.jpg/800px-Gabon_Export_Treemap.jpg

    And finally Romania's:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Romania_Export_Treemap.png


    Which of these countries have actual industries and diversified economies? And which of these countries depend on resource extraction carried out by foreign corporations and have cows, wood, and fuck all else?

    Romania has 7.5% unemployment, Albania 13.5%. Botswana has around 20% and Gabon has 27%.

    What a buffonishly incompetent comparison to make.
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  • It’s amazing how you idiots routinely humiliate yourselves and your race, and keep coming back for more. As if in hopes that one day, everyone will have tired of humiliating you with reality, and you’ll be able to spew your nonsense unchallenged.

    Botswana (GDP (PP) per capita: $17k; GDP (nominal) per capita: $8k) has a population of around 2.2 million. Gabon (GDP (PPP) per capita: $20k; GDP (nominal) $13k) has a population of around 1.5 million. That’s around 3.7 million, total. Apparently how many black or predominantly-black people there are in the world is a question that is too horrific to even contemplate, if G**gle results are any indication, so let’s call it an even billion. That means Botswana and Gabon represent somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.3% of the worldwide total.

    Assuming they’re the best examples you have (if not, we can re-jigger the math to use any example you like), i.e., the cream of the black crop, we should compare them to the cream of the white crop, say, Norway (population 5.1 million, GDP (PPP) per capita: $67k; GDP (nominal) per capita: $81k). Which works, because Norway has a lot of natural resource wealth, too.

    I think I know which country I’d rather live in, given the choice of Norway, Botswana, or Gabon. Want to compare crime stats, health care, IQ stats, etc., too?

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  • 7. As adversity increases, so do ethnocentrism, rightism, and religiousity. Or so the studies say. Multiculturalism, diversity, open borders, all recipes for increased adversity.

    8. As the white population dwindles, the foundation of liberal stupidity erodes. Largesse is a function of wealth and power. As the latter fade for whites, so will the former. Minorities don’t give a damn about each other.

    9. As the white population dwindles, so too does the glue that holds the minority coalition together. Self-explanatory, I think.

    10. The slow crackup of centralized media power will allow more and more of the truth to escape over time. I’ve seen a lot more open (if anonymous) criticism of America and the West’s racial regime in recent years than I did in the years preceding.

    11. Suicide cults tend to die out. The longer the timeline, the better the odds that whites will wake the fuck up.

    When arguing for immigration restriction against a Jewish open-borders advocate, it has for years been a standard rhetorical ploy to ask: “Can we try out open borders in Israel first?”

    A perhaps minor quibble, but I think it works well against open-borders advocates of any stripe; everyone is supposed to take Jews’ ethnic interests very, very seriously (and uber alles), and Jews are (bizarrely, if understandably) the gold standard of ethnic morality in the minds of most everyone but the pro-Palestinian faction of the left.

    This is due to intense pathological hatred Judaists have towards whites and Christians

    Miz Goldblatt of Baltimore’s City Paper would certainly seem to fall into this category.

    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?

    There’s this bum that lives under a bridge. All he had was the clothes on his back. Then he panhandled until he could afford a blanket and a bottle of ripple, in just a day. Who else can show me a 100% growth rate in a single day?

    It’s an economic miracle, I say.

    ^This is a bit over the top, Derbyshire suggests no such thing. Try to address his points specifically.

    Homosexualist radicals are psychos, just use your scroll button.

    But why not? Taylor has a clear game plan. (a) Flood the one with distorted “HBD” propaganda to promote white racial consciousness, and (b) work to implement measures to restore apartheid structures- from repealing the Civil Right Act of 1964, to bringing back restrictive covenants so as to purge white neighborhoods of the Jews and culluds [snip]

    See what I mean? Psychos will usually loudly announce their psychotic status early on in a post. Then you can just scroll past.

    Remember, their whole schtick is beating their spouse, and blaming all their problems on their spouse, and then screaming bloody murder when they go through their spouse’s things and find divorce papers. They have no shame, and no pride. Just greed.

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  • @Enrique Cardova
    Travis says:
    Solving the race problem, as defined by Jared, is pointless. The problem is not convincing the general public about racial differences.

    Agreed, and there is an important flip side to what you say. While most whites would agree that there are racial differences, and that IQ tests and such make blacks appear less intelligent than whites, they distrust the oft sneering "HBD" flavor surrounding the whole issue, and distrust the HBD baiters, bashers and bigots often lurking just below the surface, including the anti-Semites, and the Anglophile types bashing other white ethnics like Italians.

    Most white Americans do not want to get into a draining round of "white supremacy" battles either, and would actually like to put numerous unsavory aspects of white supremacism such as Jim Crow and Nazism behind them. White people as even some black conservatives like Shelby Steele say, don't want their racial sins brought up. When they see "HBD" proponents virtually endorsing those unsavory aspects of the past, under an "IQ" banner, they are not enthusiastic to jump on the bandwagon, because they know there will be fierce pushback from the no longer quiescent culluds. More pushback means more exposure, and more attacks heaped against self-serving white myths of goodness and light.

    Here is the first central dilemma for the Taylorites. They can always draw a crowd by railing against the culluds, sneeringly playing up the "IQ card", but that same sneering, or barely veiled sneer approach is a turn off to many white Americans. Such a card plays well in the usual echo chambers and can always get some short term press. But in the long run people consider the implications and see that the Taylorites want to bring back a painful, at times shameful era- from reappeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, to the restoration of enforceable racial covenants in property ownership.

    Most whites for example do not want government telling Jews and blacks where they can or cannot live. Nor do they want smirking hotel operators turning away black families just trying to get a room for the night as they travel cross-country because they are "not white enough." Who needs to re-fight that crap? They do not want government agents barging into the bedrooms of interracial couples in the night hours (as happened with the landmark Loving case) in search of "interracial criminals." White America wants no part with that, and the subtle "IQ" insinuations of the HBD set which provide an unspoken "IQ justification" for this past, turns them off.

    In fact, this is one of the key vulnerabilities of Taylorism- the liberals will have a field day going after the veiled racialism or racism below the surface, and will exploit it to the hilt. Hence the insoluble dilemma- racism is necessary to mobilize the "HBD" base, but racism will provoke the fiercest pushback from the culluds, and the most damaging liberal counter-attacks.

    I knew that if you kept writing you would eventually say something sensible.

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  • @Andrew E. Mathis

    Right, black Africa has done a bang up job in promoting equal rights for homosexuals.
     
    Actually, given the analogy of the stopped clock being right twice per day, you're correct that gay rights are in terrible shape in Africa. Where you're wrong is ascribing that (apparently) to the race of the people that live there. Actually, there are two big factors in anti-gay discrimation in Africa. The first is Islam; the second is colonialism. None of the non-Muslim countries in sub-Saharan Africa had cultural biases against homosexuality before colonialism. The anti-gay legislation was introduced almost entirely under colonialism by Europeans. Since the end of colonialism, the major factor driving radical anti-gay agendas has actually been American fundamentalist Christianity.

    I suggest that Ronald West review the status of every geographical entity where blacks run the government, every geographical entity where blacks are a majority. Not a pretty picture.
     
    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?

    Of course, everyone knows about the incredible black work ethic.
     
    It's almost like they have cushy library jobs at which they spend all day online moderating anti-Semitic Internet forums. The nerve!

    Actually, there are two big factors in anti-gay discrimation in Africa. The first is Islam…

    …in the wake of which much pederasty follows…

    …the second is colonialism.…

    … in the wake of which much pederasty follows.

    “Anti-gay discrimation” seems like a reasonable reaction to the invasion of foreign perverts.

    Admit it: Africans have agency, and they’re right about this, and modern “progressive” whites are wrong. Very wrong.

    And damned supremacist about it, too.

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  • @Corvinus
    “In addition to the fact that any applicant who is denied employment that has been applied for has standing to sue the employer who chose an alternate candidate, claiming that the choice process was illegal, the EEOC or the Justice Department (just at the federal level) may sue any employer that the government claims has engaged in hiring practices that are in violation of federal law, such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”

    “Counselor”, standing to sue, indeed, with a claim that has merit, lest they get laughed out of court.

    “Being able to get away with committing a crime, because of a lack of public evidence, is a very different thing from being allowed to engage in a particular hiring practice.”
    
The hiring practice is a company choosing from a pool of applicants one person best deemed qualified and competent to work there. That company has the liberty to make that decision. Best wishes to the person or people who were denied employment suing in court without a basis of fact that indeed. Regardless of my fopa (beyond a reasonable doubt), my point still stands--unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

    Regardless of my fopa (beyond a reasonable doubt), my point still stands–unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

    With certain narrow exceptions this is mostly correct. A mere claim of discrimination doesn’t mean anything. Plaintiff must first establish a prima facie case by a preponderance of evidence, or he/she will get their action dismissed. A Plainiff has to show up loaded for bear, or they are doomed. Assuming Plaintiff survives the employer’s inevitable ‘Motion to Dismiss,” employer must then provide “evidence which, taken as true, would permit the conclusion that there was a non-discriminatory reason for the adverse action.” Most employers can always find a plausible-sounding reason for their decision. They may say oh- well we picked Melissa for the job not because she has nice boobs and is a friend of a friend, but because she has special skills in sales that fit our new direction for .. and so on.. They do have to package things nicely enough to put something plausible or that seems legit on the table- any old story of course is not acceptable. Most employers are able enough to do this and have the cash to pay for good legal talent to this end.

    Plaintiff now has a much tougher burden. He must prove by a preponderance of evidence, that “the legitimate reasons offered by the Defendant were not its true reasons, but were a pretext for discrimination.” To establish an indicia of pretext, Plaintiff must show more than the employer’s decision was incorrect: the plaintiff must also show that the employer lied about its proffered explanation.” Even an employer’s erroneous decision-making, exhibiting poor business judgment, is not sufficient to establish pretext.

    In other words, not only must the Plaintiff rebut the employer’s reasons, he/she must prove that the employer is lying as a pretext. As can be imagined, employers have an advantage in the process. They usually control most of the evidence initially at least, and can still hold some back by various maneuvers, and can call a slew of people forward to testify on their behalf, whereby the typical Plaintiff fights on alone and isolated, with mounting legal bills. Courts recognize this tough reality. As one court decision sardonically notes:
    “Employers are rarely so cooperative as to include a motion in the personnel file, ‘fired due to age,’ or to inform a dismissed employee candidly that he is too old for the job.” (Texas Employment Law, Volume 1- By Laura M. Franze)

    While there is NO guarantee that an employer will prevail, it has the bulk of the advantages, and also typically has deeper pockets for litigation. In fact employers often stretch out such litigation, putting heavy pressure on individual Defendants as their legal bills mount. Time to court is usually measured in years, and even with an adverse decision, an employer has more resources to appeal, and then can drag things out for even more additional years. Most job applicants simply do not have the time or money to battle. Just filing a court case is gonna set you back a few hundred. As standard personnel law textbooks show, most employment discrimination cases are won by employers. (The Complete Guide to Human Resources and the Law- Dana Shilling – 2013- 42-35)

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  • @Corvinus
    “In addition to the fact that any applicant who is denied employment that has been applied for has standing to sue the employer who chose an alternate candidate, claiming that the choice process was illegal, the EEOC or the Justice Department (just at the federal level) may sue any employer that the government claims has engaged in hiring practices that are in violation of federal law, such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”

    “Counselor”, standing to sue, indeed, with a claim that has merit, lest they get laughed out of court.

    “Being able to get away with committing a crime, because of a lack of public evidence, is a very different thing from being allowed to engage in a particular hiring practice.”
    
The hiring practice is a company choosing from a pool of applicants one person best deemed qualified and competent to work there. That company has the liberty to make that decision. Best wishes to the person or people who were denied employment suing in court without a basis of fact that indeed. Regardless of my fopa (beyond a reasonable doubt), my point still stands--unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

    You evidently are simply too dense to grasp any salient distinction, be it linguistic or legal. Ciao, Bobo!

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  • “In addition to the fact that any applicant who is denied employment that has been applied for has standing to sue the employer who chose an alternate candidate, claiming that the choice process was illegal, the EEOC or the Justice Department (just at the federal level) may sue any employer that the government claims has engaged in hiring practices that are in violation of federal law, such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”

    “Counselor”, standing to sue, indeed, with a claim that has merit, lest they get laughed out of court.

    “Being able to get away with committing a crime, because of a lack of public evidence, is a very different thing from being allowed to engage in a particular hiring practice.”
    
The hiring practice is a company choosing from a pool of applicants one person best deemed qualified and competent to work there. That company has the liberty to make that decision. Best wishes to the person or people who were denied employment suing in court without a basis of fact that indeed. Regardless of my fopa (beyond a reasonable doubt), my point still stands–unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

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    You evidently are simply too dense to grasp any salient distinction, be it linguistic or legal. Ciao, Bobo!
    , @Enrique Cardova
    Regardless of my fopa (beyond a reasonable doubt), my point still stands–unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

    With certain narrow exceptions this is mostly correct. A mere claim of discrimination doesn't mean anything. Plaintiff must first establish a prima facie case by a preponderance of evidence, or he/she will get their action dismissed. A Plainiff has to show up loaded for bear, or they are doomed. Assuming Plaintiff survives the employer's inevitable 'Motion to Dismiss," employer must then provide “evidence which, taken as true, would permit the conclusion that there was a non-discriminatory reason for the adverse action.” Most employers can always find a plausible-sounding reason for their decision. They may say oh- well we picked Melissa for the job not because she has nice boobs and is a friend of a friend, but because she has special skills in sales that fit our new direction for .. and so on.. They do have to package things nicely enough to put something plausible or that seems legit on the table- any old story of course is not acceptable. Most employers are able enough to do this and have the cash to pay for good legal talent to this end.

    Plaintiff now has a much tougher burden. He must prove by a preponderance of evidence, that “the legitimate reasons offered by the Defendant were not its true reasons, but were a pretext for discrimination.” To establish an indicia of pretext, Plaintiff must show more than the employer’s decision was incorrect: the plaintiff must also show that the employer lied about its proffered explanation." Even an employer’s erroneous decision-making, exhibiting poor business judgment, is not sufficient to establish pretext.

    In other words, not only must the Plaintiff rebut the employer's reasons, he/she must prove that the employer is lying as a pretext. As can be imagined, employers have an advantage in the process. They usually control most of the evidence initially at least, and can still hold some back by various maneuvers, and can call a slew of people forward to testify on their behalf, whereby the typical Plaintiff fights on alone and isolated, with mounting legal bills. Courts recognize this tough reality. As one court decision sardonically notes:
    "Employers are rarely so cooperative as to include a motion in the personnel file, 'fired due to age,' or to inform a dismissed employee candidly that he is too old for the job." (Texas Employment Law, Volume 1- By Laura M. Franze)

    While there is NO guarantee that an employer will prevail, it has the bulk of the advantages, and also typically has deeper pockets for litigation. In fact employers often stretch out such litigation, putting heavy pressure on individual Defendants as their legal bills mount. Time to court is usually measured in years, and even with an adverse decision, an employer has more resources to appeal, and then can drag things out for even more additional years. Most job applicants simply do not have the time or money to battle. Just filing a court case is gonna set you back a few hundred. As standard personnel law textbooks show, most employment discrimination cases are won by employers. (The Complete Guide to Human Resources and the Law- Dana Shilling - 2013- 42-35)
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  • @Corvinus
    “Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people).”

    As opposed to the Spanish conquistadors widespread by-choice jackbooting of Native American women and children? Sir, savagery is savagery. There are no shades.

    Regarding cannibalism in Africa, that is colonial myth and cultural myopia. SOME tribal groups engaged in the practice, but it was not as widespread as you were led to believe by your 4th grade teacher.


    “Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered. Yet they did. and countless millions have benefited.”

    Those laws were repeatedly violated.


    “Funny you mention the Black Death; that was brought from Asia and Africa.“

    The Black Death is thought to have originated in the arid plains of Central Asia, where it then travelled along the Silk Road, reaching the Crimea by 1343. Not Africa. Boy, your 4th grade teacher did a number on you!


    “It “can” in the same sense that you “can” loot a liquor store. Neither of you “can” do so, however, without breaking the law, pinhead.”

    Except when you loot that liquor store the law has been decidedly broken, especially if there are video cameras on site. When a company hires someone it PREFERS, the candidate must offer evidence beyond reasonable doubt that they were purposely denied the opportunity to be employed there. My point still stands. Try again, “former attorney”?

    P.S. People who believe that they have not been offered gainful employment for unlawful reasons may sue the respective employers who denied them those positions. When those people sue, the standard of proof is merely “a preponderance of the evidence”– not, as you have erroneously claimed, “beyond [a] reasonable doubt.” You might need to take a break from all of those history books, and break out one on elementary law, instead.

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  • @Corvinus
    “Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people).”

    As opposed to the Spanish conquistadors widespread by-choice jackbooting of Native American women and children? Sir, savagery is savagery. There are no shades.

    Regarding cannibalism in Africa, that is colonial myth and cultural myopia. SOME tribal groups engaged in the practice, but it was not as widespread as you were led to believe by your 4th grade teacher.


    “Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered. Yet they did. and countless millions have benefited.”

    Those laws were repeatedly violated.


    “Funny you mention the Black Death; that was brought from Asia and Africa.“

    The Black Death is thought to have originated in the arid plains of Central Asia, where it then travelled along the Silk Road, reaching the Crimea by 1343. Not Africa. Boy, your 4th grade teacher did a number on you!


    “It “can” in the same sense that you “can” loot a liquor store. Neither of you “can” do so, however, without breaking the law, pinhead.”

    Except when you loot that liquor store the law has been decidedly broken, especially if there are video cameras on site. When a company hires someone it PREFERS, the candidate must offer evidence beyond reasonable doubt that they were purposely denied the opportunity to be employed there. My point still stands. Try again, “former attorney”?

    In addition to the fact that any applicant who is denied employment that has been applied for has standing to sue the employer who chose an alternate candidate, claiming that the choice process was illegal, the EEOC or the Justice Department (just at the federal level) may sue any employer that the government claims has engaged in hiring practices that are in violation of federal law, such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964. What can be proved in court is a wholly separate matter. Being able to get away with committing a crime, because of a lack of public evidence, is a very different thing from being allowed to engage in a particular hiring practice. I appreciate if you are incapable, as an apparent layperson of no particularly relevant expertise, of grasping such an elementary distinction.

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  • “Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people).”

    As opposed to the Spanish conquistadors widespread by-choice jackbooting of Native American women and children? Sir, savagery is savagery. There are no shades.

    Regarding cannibalism in Africa, that is colonial myth and cultural myopia. SOME tribal groups engaged in the practice, but it was not as widespread as you were led to believe by your 4th grade teacher.

    “Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered. Yet they did. and countless millions have benefited.”

    Those laws were repeatedly violated.

    “Funny you mention the Black Death; that was brought from Asia and Africa.“

    The Black Death is thought to have originated in the arid plains of Central Asia, where it then travelled along the Silk Road, reaching the Crimea by 1343. Not Africa. Boy, your 4th grade teacher did a number on you!

    “It “can” in the same sense that you “can” loot a liquor store. Neither of you “can” do so, however, without breaking the law, pinhead.”

    Except when you loot that liquor store the law has been decidedly broken, especially if there are video cameras on site. When a company hires someone it PREFERS, the candidate must offer evidence beyond reasonable doubt that they were purposely denied the opportunity to be employed there. My point still stands. Try again, “former attorney”?

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    In addition to the fact that any applicant who is denied employment that has been applied for has standing to sue the employer who chose an alternate candidate, claiming that the choice process was illegal, the EEOC or the Justice Department (just at the federal level) may sue any employer that the government claims has engaged in hiring practices that are in violation of federal law, such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964. What can be proved in court is a wholly separate matter. Being able to get away with committing a crime, because of a lack of public evidence, is a very different thing from being allowed to engage in a particular hiring practice. I appreciate if you are incapable, as an apparent layperson of no particularly relevant expertise, of grasping such an elementary distinction.
    , @D. K.
    P.S. People who believe that they have not been offered gainful employment for unlawful reasons may sue the respective employers who denied them those positions. When those people sue, the standard of proof is merely "a preponderance of the evidence"-- not, as you have erroneously claimed, "beyond [a] reasonable doubt." You might need to take a break from all of those history books, and break out one on elementary law, instead.
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  • @Stealth
    Whether you agree with him or not, John Derbyshire does indeed make sense. I'd also say he has you beaten when it comes to conveying ideas and information to readers.

    Stealth, you are a master of understatement.

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  • @Flower
    Ivy, you obviously didn't read what I said. Who cares about the Hispanics and their gangs, they are just another group looking for payback. My feeling is that you see the "urban gang" as some sort of toastier, hyper-"Spanky and the Little Rascals". I note this because the most obvious aspect of your personal defense relies on never your never ending naivete. So, you just keep on believing those govt reports about the inner city turf wars - why you can hang those on your wall right next to the govt's promises and claims about unemployment.

    The difference between the black gangs and the Hispanic gangs is that the blacks have had substantially more military training (courtesy of the US Army) than the Hispanics, primarily because the Hispanics have been a bit slower in getting their people thru the US Army training program. Many members of the black gangs joined the US military (actually, many of them were given the assignment to enroll in the US Army training programs) for a specific purpose: to get trained. What are they training on: weapons, tactics, explosives, communications, etc., all the things a guy could want to create mayhem. The best part is, you paid them to get that training. Now that they have left the army and returned home, guess what they are doing ? That's right, training other Bloods and Crips to makes IEDs and Molotov Cocktails and Napalm straight from the kitchen, plus all the other little fashionable and lethal toys that urban guerrillas lust after.

    Like I said, all it is going to take is an attack on our rush hour traffic, and this country will be on it's knees.

    Let me give you an example of the last thing you are likely to ever see. It's a typical weekday morning, and you've reached that certain bottleneck in the commute, y'know, that place where traffic always seems to turn into a bumper to bumper crawl. In front of you is a late model Lexus with two passengers. Suddenly, the two occupants do a curious thing, they turn off the Lexus, open the doors, and run away. As you watch them leap over the guardrails you sort of note that they didn't look like the kind of guys who could own a Lexus, but, oh well. Ninety-two seconds after those two guys bail, the traffic still hasn't started moving yet, the crude but effective ignition system attached to the 50 gallons of stolen diesel fuel, which is sitting up against an 80 pound sack of stolen Ammonia Nitrate fertilizer times out.
    Two miles away, some old guy who stepped out to get his morning paper, marvels at the latest light show on the Ventura Freeway, as the Lexus explodes in a massive fireball that takes out acres of cars and highway. But, by some miracle there wasn't a gasoline tanker truck next to the Lexus, so you live. Tell me, you going to go to work the next day? Are you going to use the Ventura Highway to get there?

    The Bloods and Crips won't really have to do much after that, except sit and watch whitey tear each other's guts out. Oh, and the best part, right after the explosion, some member of the Bloods or Crips makes an "anonymous" call to the LA Times claiming to be a representative of MS13 and that "we did the bomb so all you Gringos can go to hell!" and laughs and laughs and laughs.

    I read it, and your feeling is incorrect. I understand your point of view, but don’t share it. Demographics are clearly on the Hispanic side.

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  • @Flower
    Ivy, you obviously didn't read what I said. Who cares about the Hispanics and their gangs, they are just another group looking for payback. My feeling is that you see the "urban gang" as some sort of toastier, hyper-"Spanky and the Little Rascals". I note this because the most obvious aspect of your personal defense relies on never your never ending naivete. So, you just keep on believing those govt reports about the inner city turf wars - why you can hang those on your wall right next to the govt's promises and claims about unemployment.

    The difference between the black gangs and the Hispanic gangs is that the blacks have had substantially more military training (courtesy of the US Army) than the Hispanics, primarily because the Hispanics have been a bit slower in getting their people thru the US Army training program. Many members of the black gangs joined the US military (actually, many of them were given the assignment to enroll in the US Army training programs) for a specific purpose: to get trained. What are they training on: weapons, tactics, explosives, communications, etc., all the things a guy could want to create mayhem. The best part is, you paid them to get that training. Now that they have left the army and returned home, guess what they are doing ? That's right, training other Bloods and Crips to makes IEDs and Molotov Cocktails and Napalm straight from the kitchen, plus all the other little fashionable and lethal toys that urban guerrillas lust after.

    Like I said, all it is going to take is an attack on our rush hour traffic, and this country will be on it's knees.

    Let me give you an example of the last thing you are likely to ever see. It's a typical weekday morning, and you've reached that certain bottleneck in the commute, y'know, that place where traffic always seems to turn into a bumper to bumper crawl. In front of you is a late model Lexus with two passengers. Suddenly, the two occupants do a curious thing, they turn off the Lexus, open the doors, and run away. As you watch them leap over the guardrails you sort of note that they didn't look like the kind of guys who could own a Lexus, but, oh well. Ninety-two seconds after those two guys bail, the traffic still hasn't started moving yet, the crude but effective ignition system attached to the 50 gallons of stolen diesel fuel, which is sitting up against an 80 pound sack of stolen Ammonia Nitrate fertilizer times out.
    Two miles away, some old guy who stepped out to get his morning paper, marvels at the latest light show on the Ventura Freeway, as the Lexus explodes in a massive fireball that takes out acres of cars and highway. But, by some miracle there wasn't a gasoline tanker truck next to the Lexus, so you live. Tell me, you going to go to work the next day? Are you going to use the Ventura Highway to get there?

    The Bloods and Crips won't really have to do much after that, except sit and watch whitey tear each other's guts out. Oh, and the best part, right after the explosion, some member of the Bloods or Crips makes an "anonymous" call to the LA Times claiming to be a representative of MS13 and that "we did the bomb so all you Gringos can go to hell!" and laughs and laughs and laughs.

    Now that they have left the army and returned home, guess what they are doing ? That’s right, training other Bloods and Crips to makes IEDs and Molotov Cocktails and Napalm straight from the kitchen, plus all the other little fashionable and lethal toys that urban guerrillas lust after.
    What you say MAY be true as to more black military training, but I think your scenario is a stretch at present. The Bloods and Crips spend most of their time drug running, extorting and killing one another. I doubt they could put together a credible guerrilla strike-force. Sure its a potential, but realistically, not much chance. Hell by the time they got something going, 10% or more of the guerrilla “army” would be FBI informants. Its like the Black Panthers in the 1960s who spouted much fiery “revolutionary” rhetoric, but whose ludicrous “military strategy” mostly consisted of holing up in alleged “safe” houses until they were raided by dozens or hundreds of heavily armed police- that simply blew them away, or captured the lot. This from people who kept quoting Mao and Giap, and who kept giving away key info on their order of battle and weaponry by parading in front of police stations to get press. They were also riddled with informers..

    One exception to this pattern is the hard-nosed black “Deacons of Defense” in the 1960s whose armed patrols, and sometimes well aimed volleys, routed racists interfering with Civil Rights work in the south. See book “Negroes with Guns” by Rob Williams.

    Your scenario is much more realistic with a group like the Black Muslims, who have a mass organization, and undergo indoctrination or have exposure of some sort of disciplined unit, and somewhat less susceptible to infiltration though not invulnerable to it. Some do have US military training, but such training is not essential if you want a dedicated hit team. Like the Viet Cong, most lessons learned will be on the job. If linked with an ideology such as jihadi Islam, and securing support from jihadi sources in or outside the US, they can give the gubment a run for its money- FBI informers, agent provocateurs or no. But the Black Muslims have usually avoided, or have no interest in such confrontations, unless pushed into them in extreme cases.

    Like I said, all it is going to take is an attack on our rush hour traffic, and this country will be on it’s knees.
    Hmm, not really. In such cases the gubment need only secure the area, reroute traffic, and post additional personnel and aerial assets to monitor what needs to be monitored. In Israel they have been dealing with such scenarios for a long time, and are very proficient. And in the US, the feds have been stocking local law enforcement with all sorts of military hardware, and outfitting SWAt teams all over the place. Hell some local regimes even have surplus army choppers to work with. What the Crips gonna do when a Blackhawk or Apache chopper appears overhead- flash gang signs and hope for the best? It would not be nearly as easy as you make out.

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    The Bloods and Crips won’t really have to do much after that, except sit and watch whitey tear each other’s guts out. Oh, and the best part, right after the explosion, some member of the Bloods or Crips makes an “anonymous” call to the LA Times claiming to be a representative of MS13 and that “we did the bomb so all you Gringos can go to hell!” and laughs and laughs and laughs.
    Sure, ANYTHING is possible but the Bloods and Crips are not likely to go in for any such scenario. Why bother, when they can keep running lucrative drug rackets and making money? There is no real incentive to take on the gubment which is well armed and organized even at the local level. Makes no sense- its a losing proposition from the get go. It would take a dedicated, hard-nosed, ideologically driven force who are willing to die in large numbers for the cause. Palestinian suicide bombers, or hardcore Viet Cong are an example of what it takes. That doesn’t describe greedy, self-seeking street gangs. A dedicated jihadi outfit most suits your scenario.

    But you miss another, more dangerous force that can work mayhem- the hundreds of thousands of well armed whites from Maine to Texas, who have had much more military exposure, and among them numerous racist hate groups and additional “survivalist” types, preparing for years to confront the government. These guys have mountain strongholds already in place, weapons stockpiled, food laid in, On top of that they have all the “2nd Amendment” type sympathizers to work with. If scenarios are being bandied about, they would be a much more credible threat to the social order.

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  • @Ivy
    Perhaps in reviewing your reply to Darcy, you missed your own wording:

    "Are you sure Europeans eliminated the most ghastly practices? Let’s take a look at some pace-setting Nordics not too long ago."

    You missed reading accurately. The pace-setting Nordics referred to were Germans as is clear from the context of the quotes. The word Poles doesn’t even appear on this page until you mentioned it. The Einsatzgruppen were not Poles.

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  • @Ivy
    MS13, El Norte, etc have been encroaching on the home turf of Bloods and Crips in California for quite a long time, whether on the street or in the pen. Mexican/Hispanic gangs represent more danger for a lot of the country than black gangs do, and they are more organized with better quasi-family structures and fertility rates.

    Ivy, you obviously didn’t read what I said. Who cares about the Hispanics and their gangs, they are just another group looking for payback. My feeling is that you see the “urban gang” as some sort of toastier, hyper-”Spanky and the Little Rascals”. I note this because the most obvious aspect of your personal defense relies on never your never ending naivete. So, you just keep on believing those govt reports about the inner city turf wars – why you can hang those on your wall right next to the govt’s promises and claims about unemployment.

    The difference between the black gangs and the Hispanic gangs is that the blacks have had substantially more military training (courtesy of the US Army) than the Hispanics, primarily because the Hispanics have been a bit slower in getting their people thru the US Army training program. Many members of the black gangs joined the US military (actually, many of them were given the assignment to enroll in the US Army training programs) for a specific purpose: to get trained. What are they training on: weapons, tactics, explosives, communications, etc., all the things a guy could want to create mayhem. The best part is, you paid them to get that training. Now that they have left the army and returned home, guess what they are doing ? That’s right, training other Bloods and Crips to makes IEDs and Molotov Cocktails and Napalm straight from the kitchen, plus all the other little fashionable and lethal toys that urban guerrillas lust after.

    Like I said, all it is going to take is an attack on our rush hour traffic, and this country will be on it’s knees.

    Let me give you an example of the last thing you are likely to ever see. It’s a typical weekday morning, and you’ve reached that certain bottleneck in the commute, y’know, that place where traffic always seems to turn into a bumper to bumper crawl. In front of you is a late model Lexus with two passengers. Suddenly, the two occupants do a curious thing, they turn off the Lexus, open the doors, and run away. As you watch them leap over the guardrails you sort of note that they didn’t look like the kind of guys who could own a Lexus, but, oh well. Ninety-two seconds after those two guys bail, the traffic still hasn’t started moving yet, the crude but effective ignition system attached to the 50 gallons of stolen diesel fuel, which is sitting up against an 80 pound sack of stolen Ammonia Nitrate fertilizer times out.
    Two miles away, some old guy who stepped out to get his morning paper, marvels at the latest light show on the Ventura Freeway, as the Lexus explodes in a massive fireball that takes out acres of cars and highway. But, by some miracle there wasn’t a gasoline tanker truck next to the Lexus, so you live. Tell me, you going to go to work the next day? Are you going to use the Ventura Highway to get there?

    The Bloods and Crips won’t really have to do much after that, except sit and watch whitey tear each other’s guts out. Oh, and the best part, right after the explosion, some member of the Bloods or Crips makes an “anonymous” call to the LA Times claiming to be a representative of MS13 and that “we did the bomb so all you Gringos can go to hell!” and laughs and laughs and laughs.

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    Now that they have left the army and returned home, guess what they are doing ? That’s right, training other Bloods and Crips to makes IEDs and Molotov Cocktails and Napalm straight from the kitchen, plus all the other little fashionable and lethal toys that urban guerrillas lust after.
    What you say MAY be true as to more black military training, but I think your scenario is a stretch at present. The Bloods and Crips spend most of their time drug running, extorting and killing one another. I doubt they could put together a credible guerrilla strike-force. Sure its a potential, but realistically, not much chance. Hell by the time they got something going, 10% or more of the guerrilla "army" would be FBI informants. Its like the Black Panthers in the 1960s who spouted much fiery "revolutionary" rhetoric, but whose ludicrous "military strategy" mostly consisted of holing up in alleged "safe" houses until they were raided by dozens or hundreds of heavily armed police- that simply blew them away, or captured the lot. This from people who kept quoting Mao and Giap, and who kept giving away key info on their order of battle and weaponry by parading in front of police stations to get press. They were also riddled with informers..

    One exception to this pattern is the hard-nosed black "Deacons of Defense" in the 1960s whose armed patrols, and sometimes well aimed volleys, routed racists interfering with Civil Rights work in the south. See book "Negroes with Guns" by Rob Williams.

    Your scenario is much more realistic with a group like the Black Muslims, who have a mass organization, and undergo indoctrination or have exposure of some sort of disciplined unit, and somewhat less susceptible to infiltration though not invulnerable to it. Some do have US military training, but such training is not essential if you want a dedicated hit team. Like the Viet Cong, most lessons learned will be on the job. If linked with an ideology such as jihadi Islam, and securing support from jihadi sources in or outside the US, they can give the gubment a run for its money- FBI informers, agent provocateurs or no. But the Black Muslims have usually avoided, or have no interest in such confrontations, unless pushed into them in extreme cases.


    Like I said, all it is going to take is an attack on our rush hour traffic, and this country will be on it’s knees.
    Hmm, not really. In such cases the gubment need only secure the area, reroute traffic, and post additional personnel and aerial assets to monitor what needs to be monitored. In Israel they have been dealing with such scenarios for a long time, and are very proficient. And in the US, the feds have been stocking local law enforcement with all sorts of military hardware, and outfitting SWAt teams all over the place. Hell some local regimes even have surplus army choppers to work with. What the Crips gonna do when a Blackhawk or Apache chopper appears overhead- flash gang signs and hope for the best? It would not be nearly as easy as you make out.

    .
    The Bloods and Crips won’t really have to do much after that, except sit and watch whitey tear each other’s guts out. Oh, and the best part, right after the explosion, some member of the Bloods or Crips makes an “anonymous” call to the LA Times claiming to be a representative of MS13 and that “we did the bomb so all you Gringos can go to hell!” and laughs and laughs and laughs.
    Sure, ANYTHING is possible but the Bloods and Crips are not likely to go in for any such scenario. Why bother, when they can keep running lucrative drug rackets and making money? There is no real incentive to take on the gubment which is well armed and organized even at the local level. Makes no sense- its a losing proposition from the get go. It would take a dedicated, hard-nosed, ideologically driven force who are willing to die in large numbers for the cause. Palestinian suicide bombers, or hardcore Viet Cong are an example of what it takes. That doesn't describe greedy, self-seeking street gangs. A dedicated jihadi outfit most suits your scenario.

    But you miss another, more dangerous force that can work mayhem- the hundreds of thousands of well armed whites from Maine to Texas, who have had much more military exposure, and among them numerous racist hate groups and additional "survivalist" types, preparing for years to confront the government. These guys have mountain strongholds already in place, weapons stockpiled, food laid in, On top of that they have all the "2nd Amendment" type sympathizers to work with. If scenarios are being bandied about, they would be a much more credible threat to the social order.

    , @Ivy
    I read it, and your feeling is incorrect. I understand your point of view, but don't share it. Demographics are clearly on the Hispanic side.
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  • @Enrique Cardova
    Neither on the above quote, or indeed on this entire page are Poles even referenced until your weak diversionary attempt to cover your intellectual weakness. The citations above do not mention Poles. Here they are again:

    QUOTE:


    “.. at the Janowska death pits in Lvov hundreds of Jewish labourers were forced to dig up those who had been murdered and extract gold teeth and rings from the fingers of the dead. As a witness recounted: ‘The fire crackles and sizzles Some of the bodies in the fire have had their hands extended. It looks as if they are pleading to be taken out. Many bodies are lying with open mouths. Could they be trying to say: ;we are your own mothers, fathers, who raised you and took care of you. Now you are burning us.’ ”
    — Dan Cohn-Sherbok. 2008. God and the Holocaust. p.11

    “He called the method of mass killing he invented Sardinenpackung. As Meier describes, it involved forcing victims to lie together face down and side and side and killing them with Genickschussen, then forcing the next group of victims who preceded them to form another layer, ignoring the victims; terror and horror in the interest of efficiently filling up the killing pit. Jeckeln’s despicably cruel execution protocols destroys SS claims, during and after the warm that its executions were ‘correct’ military-style executions of partisans. Himmler’s goal was mass murder.. By the end of August 1941, commanding the Kommandostab SS First Brigade in the western Ukraine, Jeckeln had personally supervised the murder of more than 44,000 human beings, the largest total of Jews murdered by any of Himmler’s virulent legions that month.”
    – Richard Rhodes. Masters of Death: The SS-Einsatzgruppen .. 2002
     

    The SS-Einsatzgruppen were mostly Germans. Janowska was an extermination camp in Poland set up by Germans, to murder Jews. Hope this helps you grasp a bit of basic history. End of today's lesson.

    Perhaps in reviewing your reply to Darcy, you missed your own wording:

    “Are you sure Europeans eliminated the most ghastly practices? Let’s take a look at some pace-setting Nordics not too long ago.”

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    You missed reading accurately. The pace-setting Nordics referred to were Germans as is clear from the context of the quotes. The word Poles doesn't even appear on this page until you mentioned it. The Einsatzgruppen were not Poles.
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  • @Stan D Mute

    If current newspapers articles are even somewhat truthful, you should be terrified to your bones. What I am talking about is the announcement that the Bloods and the Crips have banded together in an alliance against cops (i.e. the establishment). What this alliance constitutes is an army, a Guerrilla army, a veteran Guerrilla army, a military trained veteran Guerrilla army. A military trained veteran Guerrilla army who’s avowed purpose is to make Whitey’s life as miserable as there’s.
     

    The instant that IED goes off and the BloodyCrips claim responsibilty, you can kiss your politicians good bye, as they are now superfluous.
     
    That sounds more like white nationalist porn from stormfront or another of the FBI's entrapment sites than a real threat. There may be some isolated negroes or negro groups worked up enough to say these things, but it won't go any further. There is a reason they burn down their own neighborhoods rather than going into white neighborhoods or going after cops. At the end of the day, they know that (1) whites are the best friends the negro has ever had and (2) they know where their mama's EBT card comes from.

    Yeah Stan, that’s quite a tune you’re whistling past that graveyard.

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  • Neither on the above quote, or indeed on this entire page are Poles even referenced until your weak diversionary attempt to cover your intellectual weakness. The citations above do not mention Poles. Here they are again:

    QUOTE:

    “.. at the Janowska death pits in Lvov hundreds of Jewish labourers were forced to dig up those who had been murdered and extract gold teeth and rings from the fingers of the dead. As a witness recounted: ‘The fire crackles and sizzles Some of the bodies in the fire have had their hands extended. It looks as if they are pleading to be taken out. Many bodies are lying with open mouths. Could they be trying to say: ;we are your own mothers, fathers, who raised you and took care of you. Now you are burning us.’ ”
    — Dan Cohn-Sherbok. 2008. God and the Holocaust. p.11

    “He called the method of mass killing he invented Sardinenpackung. As Meier describes, it involved forcing victims to lie together face down and side and side and killing them with Genickschussen, then forcing the next group of victims who preceded them to form another layer, ignoring the victims; terror and horror in the interest of efficiently filling up the killing pit. Jeckeln’s despicably cruel execution protocols destroys SS claims, during and after the warm that its executions were ‘correct’ military-style executions of partisans. Himmler’s goal was mass murder.. By the end of August 1941, commanding the Kommandostab SS First Brigade in the western Ukraine, Jeckeln had personally supervised the murder of more than 44,000 human beings, the largest total of Jews murdered by any of Himmler’s virulent legions that month.”
    – Richard Rhodes. Masters of Death: The SS-Einsatzgruppen .. 2002

    The SS-Einsatzgruppen were mostly Germans. Janowska was an extermination camp in Poland set up by Germans, to murder Jews. Hope this helps you grasp a bit of basic history. End of today’s lesson.

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    Perhaps in reviewing your reply to Darcy, you missed your own wording:

    "Are you sure Europeans eliminated the most ghastly practices? Let’s take a look at some pace-setting Nordics not too long ago."
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  • @Enrique Cardova
    Darcy says:
    Equally savage? Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people). There’s a funny episode in Conrad’s Heart of Darkness where the bored and hungry African leans on the boat and stares at another African saying he like to eat ‘im. He means it.

    Interesting, because you see, actually, European "role models" have had a long history of cannibalism. Sorry to disillusion ..
    http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9026/cannibalismineurope.jpg


    .
    No Global Aid Society ever came to help Europeans progress. They were on their own.

    Not quite. Actually, Europeans are heavy beneficiaries numerous technological and cultural advances crucial to civilization, (from key animal and plant domestication- cattle or wheat for example, to literacy, to advanced metallurgy and a host of other items) that were put in place first by non-Europeans, and then imported along an easy East-West climate axis to Europeans to cash in on the windfall, without having to do the hard, initial, original work themselves.

    On top of this are certain geographical windfalls for Europe, as shown in detail in Jared Diamond's 1997 Guns, Germs and Steel. Other writers such as Sowell 1981 note further geographic windfalls such as navigable river systems and harbor-friendly coastlines that enabled the spread of non-European derived ideas, technology and innovation. Europeans are borrowers from, and copiers of other peoples par excellence, even in cultural products nowadays deemed "European", such as the massively influential Christian religion.

    The Christian religion by the way is the product of a sub-tropical people from the "middle east" not Europeans. These people were, wait for it, called Jews. Whoops.. Now what were you saying about all the stuff Europe supposedly "did on its own"?


    .
    After eliminating the worst punishments and egregious customs, Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered.
    Are you sure Europeans eliminated the most ghastly practices? Let's take a look at some pace-setting Nordics not too long ago.


    QUOTE:
    ".. at the Janowska death pits in Lvov hundreds of Jewish labourers were forced to dig up those who had been murdered and extract gold teeth and rings from the fingers of the dead. As a witness recounted: 'The fire crackles and sizzles Some of the bodies in the fire have had their hands extended. It looks as if they are pleading to be taken out. Many bodies are lying with open mouths. Could they be trying to say: ;we are your own mothers, fathers, who raised you and took care of you. Now you are burning us.' "
    -- Dan Cohn-Sherbok. 2008. God and the Holocaust. p.11

    "He called the method of mass killing he invented Sardinenpackung. As Meier describes, it involved forcing victims to lie together face down and side and side and killing them with Genickschussen, then forcing the next group of victims who preceded them to form another layer, ignoring the victims; terror and horror in the interest of efficiently filling up the killing pit. Jeckeln's despicably cruel execution protocols destroys SS claims, during and after the warm that its executions were 'correct' military-style executions of partisans. Himmler's goal was mass murder.. By the end of August 1941, commanding the Kommandostab SS First Brigade in the western Ukraine, Jeckeln had personally supervised the murder of more than 44,000 human beings, the largest total of Jews murdered by any of Himmler's virulent legions that month."
    -- Richard Rhodes. Masters of Death: The Ss-Einsatzgruppen .. 2002
     

    .
    Indeed, the only reason there are countless millions of SSAs, not to mention other POCs, is because of Europeans and the advances they introduced

    Funny you should mention Conrad's "Heart of Darkness." You see kind white colonialists under King Leopold killed about 10 million Africans in establishing Leopold personal fiefdom, the so-called "Congo Free State" (see Adam Rothchild's King Leopold's Ghost for the gory details). I wonder if the murdered appreciated such white "beneficence."

    According to author Hochschild- the colonial regimes own records estimate about 10 million dead from kindly European rule. Quote:


    " An official Belgian government commission in 1919 estimated that from the time Stanley began laying the foundation of Leopold's state, the population of the territory had "been reduced by half." Major Charles C. Libbrechts, a top executive of the Congo state administration for most of its existence, arrived at the same estimate in 1920. The most authoritative judgment comes from Jan Vansina, professor emeritus of history and anthropology at the University of Wisconsin and perhaps the greatest living ethnographer at the University of Wisconsin and perhaps the greatest living ethnographer of the Congo basin peoples. He bases his calculation on 'innumerable local sources from different areas: priests noticing their flocks shrinking, oral traditions, genealogies, and much more.; Hi estimate is the same: between 1880 and 1920, the population of the Congo was cit "by at least a half."..

    In 1924 the population was reckoned at ten million, a figure confirmed by later counts. This would mean, according to the estimates, that during the Leopold period and its immediate aftermath, the population of the territory dropped by approximately ten million people.

    Burned villages, starved hostages, terrified refuges, dying in swamps, orders for 'extermination' - even in crass, purely monetary terms, aren't these inefficient means of doing business? massacring huge numbers of people my frighten the survivors into gathering rubber, but doesn't it destroy the labor force? Indeed it does. Belgian administrators ordered the census in 1924 because they were deeply concerned about a shortage of available workers. 'We run the risk of someday seeing our native population collapse and disappear,' fretfully declared the permanent committee of the National Colonial Congress of Belgium that year. 'So that we will find ourselves confronted with a kind of desert.'

    --Adam Hochschild (1999) King Leopold's Ghost pg. 233
     

    Poles aren’t Nordics.
    You write a lot of nonsense and seem to think that your quick research makes sense. Go away, study the source materials and critiques, and try again when you can make a cogent argument.

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  • @dcite
    "Laughs] Do the Vandals and Visogoths, the Black Plague, and the Hundred Years War ring a bell with you? Europeans were also experiencing this balance as well. Europeans and Africans were equally savage in how they approached life."

    Equally savage? Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people). East Africans feel they are superior to west and central Africans because they never practiced cannibalism -- hey, don't get on my case about it. A Kenyan told me that. There's a funny episode in Conrad's Heart of Darkness where the bored and hungry African leans on the boat and stares at another African saying he like to eat 'im. He means it. The white captain is miffed and hopes that he in his whiteness, doesn't appear quite so...unappetizing as all that, even though he really wouldn't want to be eaten.

    No Global Aid Society ever came to help Europeans progress. They were on their own. No superior Mongol (oh--they were actually storming Europe like a scourge) came to tell them to stop burning people. After eliminating the worst punishments and egregious customs, Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered. Yet they did. and countless millions have benefited. Indeed, the only reason there are countless millions of SSAs, not to mention other POCs, is because of Europeans and the advances they introduced

    Funny you mention the Black Death; that was brought from Asia and Africa. They are facing a new Black Death now it seems.

    Darcy says:
    Equally savage? Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people). There’s a funny episode in Conrad’s Heart of Darkness where the bored and hungry African leans on the boat and stares at another African saying he like to eat ‘im. He means it.

    Interesting, because you see, actually, European “role models” have had a long history of cannibalism. Sorry to disillusion ..

    .
    No Global Aid Society ever came to help Europeans progress. They were on their own.

    Not quite. Actually, Europeans are heavy beneficiaries numerous technological and cultural advances crucial to civilization, (from key animal and plant domestication- cattle or wheat for example, to literacy, to advanced metallurgy and a host of other items) that were put in place first by non-Europeans, and then imported along an easy East-West climate axis to Europeans to cash in on the windfall, without having to do the hard, initial, original work themselves.

    On top of this are certain geographical windfalls for Europe, as shown in detail in Jared Diamond’s 1997 Guns, Germs and Steel. Other writers such as Sowell 1981 note further geographic windfalls such as navigable river systems and harbor-friendly coastlines that enabled the spread of non-European derived ideas, technology and innovation. Europeans are borrowers from, and copiers of other peoples par excellence, even in cultural products nowadays deemed “European”, such as the massively influential Christian religion.

    The Christian religion by the way is the product of a sub-tropical people from the “middle east” not Europeans. These people were, wait for it, called Jews. Whoops.. Now what were you saying about all the stuff Europe supposedly “did on its own”?

    .
    After eliminating the worst punishments and egregious customs, Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered.
    Are you sure Europeans eliminated the most ghastly practices? Let’s take a look at some pace-setting Nordics not too long ago.

    QUOTE:
    “.. at the Janowska death pits in Lvov hundreds of Jewish labourers were forced to dig up those who had been murdered and extract gold teeth and rings from the fingers of the dead. As a witness recounted: ‘The fire crackles and sizzles Some of the bodies in the fire have had their hands extended. It looks as if they are pleading to be taken out. Many bodies are lying with open mouths. Could they be trying to say: ;we are your own mothers, fathers, who raised you and took care of you. Now you are burning us.’ ”
    — Dan Cohn-Sherbok. 2008. God and the Holocaust. p.11

    “He called the method of mass killing he invented Sardinenpackung. As Meier describes, it involved forcing victims to lie together face down and side and side and killing them with Genickschussen, then forcing the next group of victims who preceded them to form another layer, ignoring the victims; terror and horror in the interest of efficiently filling up the killing pit. Jeckeln’s despicably cruel execution protocols destroys SS claims, during and after the warm that its executions were ‘correct’ military-style executions of partisans. Himmler’s goal was mass murder.. By the end of August 1941, commanding the Kommandostab SS First Brigade in the western Ukraine, Jeckeln had personally supervised the murder of more than 44,000 human beings, the largest total of Jews murdered by any of Himmler’s virulent legions that month.”
    – Richard Rhodes. Masters of Death: The Ss-Einsatzgruppen .. 2002

    .
    Indeed, the only reason there are countless millions of SSAs, not to mention other POCs, is because of Europeans and the advances they introduced

    Funny you should mention Conrad’s “Heart of Darkness.” You see kind white colonialists under King Leopold killed about 10 million Africans in establishing Leopold personal fiefdom, the so-called “Congo Free State” (see Adam Rothchild’s King Leopold’s Ghost for the gory details). I wonder if the murdered appreciated such white “beneficence.”

    According to author Hochschild- the colonial regimes own records estimate about 10 million dead from kindly European rule. Quote:

    ” An official Belgian government commission in 1919 estimated that from the time Stanley began laying the foundation of Leopold’s state, the population of the territory had “been reduced by half.” Major Charles C. Libbrechts, a top executive of the Congo state administration for most of its existence, arrived at the same estimate in 1920. The most authoritative judgment comes from Jan Vansina, professor emeritus of history and anthropology at the University of Wisconsin and perhaps the greatest living ethnographer at the University of Wisconsin and perhaps the greatest living ethnographer of the Congo basin peoples. He bases his calculation on ‘innumerable local sources from different areas: priests noticing their flocks shrinking, oral traditions, genealogies, and much more.; Hi estimate is the same: between 1880 and 1920, the population of the Congo was cit “by at least a half.”..

    In 1924 the population was reckoned at ten million, a figure confirmed by later counts. This would mean, according to the estimates, that during the Leopold period and its immediate aftermath, the population of the territory dropped by approximately ten million people.

    Burned villages, starved hostages, terrified refuges, dying in swamps, orders for ‘extermination’ – even in crass, purely monetary terms, aren’t these inefficient means of doing business? massacring huge numbers of people my frighten the survivors into gathering rubber, but doesn’t it destroy the labor force? Indeed it does. Belgian administrators ordered the census in 1924 because they were deeply concerned about a shortage of available workers. ‘We run the risk of someday seeing our native population collapse and disappear,’ fretfully declared the permanent committee of the National Colonial Congress of Belgium that year. ‘So that we will find ourselves confronted with a kind of desert.’

    –Adam Hochschild (1999) King Leopold’s Ghost pg. 233

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    Poles aren't Nordics.
    You write a lot of nonsense and seem to think that your quick research makes sense. Go away, study the source materials and critiques, and try again when you can make a cogent argument.
    , @dcite
    Forgot about this. This person tends to sound like what I call "brown noise." You've heard of "white noise", that soporific whirring sound of no special variety. Well brown noise is the PC Bible on auto-pilot, a recording guaranteed to put you to sleep.

    You seem to think you know a lot about what was taught in the 4th grade. Doesn't ring a bell.
    Yeah, I know the books on your high school reading list, and there is nothing you have copied & pasted that I am not already aware of. Makes the eyes glaze over. You hope it will do your arguing for you. Been there, read that. Fact remains, we don't want the ex-Belgian Congo tipped into Europe. And why are they all dying to get into as white a country as they can find? There are no Africans around today (and it is only due to the white man's ways that there are so many surviving) who would not want all the amenities that the whites brought in the last couple centuries. They just want them for themselves without whites. Simple but impossible. Which seems to be your dilemma. Trying to convince us that our ideas are bigoted while your opinions are righteousness itself, chock full of political/cultural/social agenda.

    Cannibalism was/is part of everyday life in parts of Africa. Even Africans talk about it, though not all engaged in it. In some areas it was ritualistic, but in Central Africa it was for food. Cannibalism also showed up in China during the Cultural Revolution (Scarlet Memorials), as a tool of political terror. Never was it used in Europe in that way, in such a public way. Even the northern Chinese were taken aback, and tried to suppress info about it until a journalist finally investigated and wrote the book. Now in Europe, you had to be insane or starving. Among American Indians, for some it was an absolute taboo even if starving; among others it was accepted.

    Diseases of unknown origin entered Europe from Asia and Africa so often that quarantine was typically one month. It was common belief, and still is, that diseases originated in Africa and other tropical areas. Bubonic plague was recorded in Africa, India, and China, long before it was recorded in Europe, whatever its origin. Europeans were right to be wary of people from those areas. Indeed, the American Indians should have put the Spaniards in quarantine. We get it. Unjust things were done. But now is now, many years later.

    The only reason various black, brown, red, and yellow peoples are deified as Eternal Victims is because they did not have the means. The will they most certainly had. That is shown in a thousand ways- these societies were replete with imaginative methods of torture and warfare, and these have been waged history, everywhere.

    Now that the whites made the modern world, we just want to opt out of being everybody's scapegoat. Too many other candidates are ripe.

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  • @Corvinus
    “No, I am not a communist; I am a former attorney, as well as a former manager for two different Fortune 500 companies.”

    I don’t recall asking for your resume.


    “I just happen to know the law of the land, as legislated by the Congress, upheld by the courts, and administered by the executive branch, whereas you apparently do not.”

    What part that a company is able to hire whomever they want for tech jobs don’t you understand?


    “Whites found the negro in a Malthusian state of natural balance. Their lives were violent and short, always on the precipice of demise from violence, pestilence, or famine.”

    [Laughs] Do the Vandals and Visogoths, the Black Plague, and the Hundred Years War ring a bell with you? Europeans were also experiencing this balance as well. Europeans and Africans were equally savage in how they approached life.


    “Whites stopped their tribal warfare…’

    Actually, tribal warfare increased dramatically with the implementation of European slavery.

    “cured their diseases”

    “and fed them so that now their population is absurdly beyond their ability to feed themselves guaranteeing a massive burden on whites or famine of unprecedented scale.”
    
Actually, African tribal groups had plenty to eat.


    “At the same time, whites have brought millions upon millions of these negroes into white homelands where they behave exactly as they have always behaved with chaos and violence imposing untold social costs on white societies.”

    Whites “brought” over blacks as slaves in the name of progress. Are you impugning the reputations of those well-intended whites? Race traitor.


    “We send missionaries out to preach the Gospel and convert the “savages” first”
    
Does not God want his flock to reach out to the heathens as their duty to serve Him? Why do you hate the Bible?


    “We don’t need to build roads and hospitals and schools in Africa to obtain germanium.”

    And you have the audacity to call whites “civilized”?


    “whites will be simply swallowed up and subsumed by the demographic tidal wave they’ve created by eliminating the Malthusian population controls on immensely more fecund primitive peoples and the world will be plunged into a new Dark Age or an age where the pragmatic East Asian rules for millennia to come.”



    Bravo, sir, bravo, for your over the top analysis.


    “The White Liberal Greedy Cheating Mega-CEO Class…”

    Most CEO’s are actually conservative who desire the liberty to have LESS regulation. Why do you hate capitalism?


    “for there are thousands of horror stories in the Native Born White American Heartland about the extreme economic violence known as the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Program.”

    Do companies have the liberty to do what they want with their property by hiring whomever they want to associate with?


    “The only thing that has changed is that white misguided beneficence has caused a population explosion destined to create more misery than this world has ever before seen.”

    Hello, anyone home? It was Europeans in the first place who believed that blacks needed to be enslaved and shipped to a place where they could be “properly taught”.

    “What part that a company is able to hire whomever they want for tech jobs don’t you understand?”

    It “can” in the same sense that you “can” loot a liquor store. Neither of you “can” do so, however, without breaking the law, pinhead.

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  • @Enrique Cardova
    Ivy says:
    There are ethnic/group-based hiring protocols for most groups, particularly those with tribal-based cultures. Northeastern US labor issues are only part of the national picture, but do benefit from more press. Each region hones its particular approach, as what works in Texas won’t in Idaho, for example.
    True and to some extent this, at some level, will never change. Everyone understands that there will always be some of this. But why is it when the Irish good old boys or the Italian paisans lock up the jobs at city hall or down at the plant, and divvy up the goodies only among themselves, everything is fine, but when a black man shows up, then we have a virtual moral crusade "defending" the "sacred" principles of "color-blindness" or "merit" and a slew of IQ "metrics" alleging that blacks need not apply, due to alleged "evolutionary" deficiencies"? As the saying goes, how come white people were not that concerned about "color blindness" or "merit" until a black man showed up for a piece of the action? Anger at this white hypocrisy is one of the things that drove government policies towards preferences for women and minorities. Even the Nixon Administration, which cared little for blacks, but was facing black unrest, got exasperated at white unions and their stonewalling, and pressured them to do deeds, not words, if they wanted federal money to keep flowing.

    Blacks have emulated the Irish example of advancing through political means to some extent. But whereas the Irish fresh off the boat were enrolled as voters and could build the vast and corrupt urban political machines, a huge proportion blacks were disenfranchised until close to 1970. It took the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and subsequent years of enforcement and follow-on litigation to finally make the franchise a reality to the majority of blacks. Blockaded by whites denying them the vote, and lacking the political machines of the Irish, blacks used the only political leverage open to them- demonstrations, marches, lawsuits, and ultimately voting, (once whites ceased sandbagging them) in parallel with these other measures. Again, if an Irish mayor stacks the rolls with his buddies, all is well- its just politics as usual. But when a black mayor does the same, he is violating "timeless principles" of noble "merit," and assorted "IQ metrics"? This is the hypocritical ground that makes up the foundation of assorted 'HBD' narratives.

    But at least you are honest about it- something one doesn't find much in this area.

    Just the facts, ma’am.

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  • @War for Blair Mountain
    I don't know if you are a White American...Native. I suspect that with high probability that you are not. But your comments are the ones that Asians in the US level at the victims of Asian scab workers imported into the US.

    You have made a declaration of a race-war against Native Born White American Tech workers who you obviously despise. But let me assure you:Native Born White American Engineers are in a rage state against Asian scab labor in US tech labor markets-whether you want to accept this or not doesn't matter. The hostility you expressed in your comments can be found in the comments section Steve Sailer's many posts about race-replacement in the Tech Field by your racial kind. I have read them all, and all the responses from Steve's Native Born White American Male Readers. Your kind ends up being demolished in the debating game. But, it really isn't a debating game:you have made an open declaration of a race-war against my people. The Historic Native Born White American Majority is under no obligation to commit racial suicide because you and the Asians imported onto Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space demand it.

    Asians in the US resent the fact that when NASA was 99 percent Native Born White American Male...and America was 90 percent Native Born White American...Native Born White America put 12 Alpha Native Born White American Males...fighter jet test pilots all with advanced engineering degrees on the Moon. Asians in Our America want to make sure that this never happens again..And this is why Asians in the US are actively involved and boast about ethnically cleansing...Genocide...Native Born White Americans out of the Tech...Engineering...Scientific...and Medical labor markets.

    How did Native Born White Americans do when there were hardly any Asians in the US at all? Very Obvious Answer:very well!!!

    And just what exactly is someone who posts comments on One People's Project doing giving "friendly" advice to Jared Taylor?

    Blair Mountain says:
    You have made a declaration of a race-war against Native Born White American Tech workers who you obviously despise. But let me assure you:Native Born White American Engineers are in a rage state against Asian scab labor in US tech labor markets-whether you want to accept this or not doesn’t matter.
    lol, why are you pointing the finger at some comments on a blog when your own white leaders are shafting your white tech guys 24/7? Why haven’t you written to or lobbied these white tech leaders directly to cease and desist? When you got the chance with the Asian guy Tao, above, by your own admission, you backed off. Why did you back out of confronting the evil Asians big time?

    And as I told you Taylor doesn’t really care about your white tech guys. His program depends on priming an older base with race-bait against the culluds. Unless your angry white tech guys can be folded into this program, they are irrelevant to Taylor. Why do you think Taylor ain’t sending much cash or attention (aside from basic lip service boilerplate) on your issue? He can’t make any money or generate much echo chamber buzz by beating up on some Asian tech guys. Everything depends on focusing on the culluds. For example Taylor wants to bring back a modified Jim Crow- a rollback of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and a return to restrictive racial covenants in housing and other venues. None of this will help your white tech guys. Barring a black guy from eating a hamburger in some restaurant is the least of the worries of a white tech guy. Who the hell cares about the black guy and his hamburger?

    I agree more attention can be paid to white plight on the issue. But Taylor’s attention is elsewhere, on more profitable venues. Besides, how much money can Taylor make off your smart white tech guys, who are younger types that are willing to think beyond standard racial boilerplate, compared to an older audience of bashers and bigots who can be primed with easy race-bait talking points?

    .
    The hostility you expressed in your comments can be found in the comments section Steve Sailer’s many posts about race-replacement in the Tech Field by your racial kind. I have read them all, and all the responses from Steve’s Native Born White American Male Readers. Your kind ends up being demolished in the debating game.

    Bwa hah aha ah ahaha hahah hahaha…. Dude please. Most of Steve Sailer’ stuff is lightweight race-bait boilerplate where “the white faithful” chime in agreement. Most of the time they avoid, and run from substantative debate, retreating into race-bait snark rather than stepping up to the plate. Demolish what? Avoidance is their primary tactic. And no one is giving Taylor any “advice”, but rather pointing out the contradictions and dilemmas and obstacles his racialist program faces. One of them, by your own suggestion, is connecting with younger, educated white people- like the white tech guys you keep crying about. Younger, more educated white people can see through a lot of the “HBD” bullshiit. Five minutes on Google and they can debunk numerous talking points accepted as virtual gospel by the older set. They are not buying many aspects of his “bash the blacks” approach, or distorted “evolutionary” claims.

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  • @Ivy
    Have folks worked in a job where there are Jews (e.g., NPR, university admissions, etc), Chinese (restaurants, fill in blank), Chechens (various street-level entrepreneurial jobs), women (schools, more recently accounting firms), take your pick?

    There are ethnic/group-based hiring protocols for most groups, particularly those with tribal-based cultures. Northeastern US labor issues are only part of the national picture, but do benefit from more press. Each region hones its particular approach, as what works in Texas won't in Idaho, for example.

    Ivy says:
    There are ethnic/group-based hiring protocols for most groups, particularly those with tribal-based cultures. Northeastern US labor issues are only part of the national picture, but do benefit from more press. Each region hones its particular approach, as what works in Texas won’t in Idaho, for example.
    True and to some extent this, at some level, will never change. Everyone understands that there will always be some of this. But why is it when the Irish good old boys or the Italian paisans lock up the jobs at city hall or down at the plant, and divvy up the goodies only among themselves, everything is fine, but when a black man shows up, then we have a virtual moral crusade “defending” the “sacred” principles of “color-blindness” or “merit” and a slew of IQ “metrics” alleging that blacks need not apply, due to alleged “evolutionary” deficiencies”? As the saying goes, how come white people were not that concerned about “color blindness” or “merit” until a black man showed up for a piece of the action? Anger at this white hypocrisy is one of the things that drove government policies towards preferences for women and minorities. Even the Nixon Administration, which cared little for blacks, but was facing black unrest, got exasperated at white unions and their stonewalling, and pressured them to do deeds, not words, if they wanted federal money to keep flowing.

    Blacks have emulated the Irish example of advancing through political means to some extent. But whereas the Irish fresh off the boat were enrolled as voters and could build the vast and corrupt urban political machines, a huge proportion blacks were disenfranchised until close to 1970. It took the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and subsequent years of enforcement and follow-on litigation to finally make the franchise a reality to the majority of blacks. Blockaded by whites denying them the vote, and lacking the political machines of the Irish, blacks used the only political leverage open to them- demonstrations, marches, lawsuits, and ultimately voting, (once whites ceased sandbagging them) in parallel with these other measures. Again, if an Irish mayor stacks the rolls with his buddies, all is well- its just politics as usual. But when a black mayor does the same, he is violating “timeless principles” of noble “merit,” and assorted “IQ metrics”? This is the hypocritical ground that makes up the foundation of assorted ‘HBD’ narratives.

    But at least you are honest about it- something one doesn’t find much in this area.

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    Just the facts, ma'am.
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  • “Laughs] Do the Vandals and Visogoths, the Black Plague, and the Hundred Years War ring a bell with you? Europeans were also experiencing this balance as well. Europeans and Africans were equally savage in how they approached life.”

    Equally savage? Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people). East Africans feel they are superior to west and central Africans because they never practiced cannibalism — hey, don’t get on my case about it. A Kenyan told me that. There’s a funny episode in Conrad’s Heart of Darkness where the bored and hungry African leans on the boat and stares at another African saying he like to eat ‘im. He means it. The white captain is miffed and hopes that he in his whiteness, doesn’t appear quite so…unappetizing as all that, even though he really wouldn’t want to be eaten.

    No Global Aid Society ever came to help Europeans progress. They were on their own. No superior Mongol (oh–they were actually storming Europe like a scourge) came to tell them to stop burning people. After eliminating the worst punishments and egregious customs, Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered. Yet they did. and countless millions have benefited. Indeed, the only reason there are countless millions of SSAs, not to mention other POCs, is because of Europeans and the advances they introduced

    Funny you mention the Black Death; that was brought from Asia and Africa. They are facing a new Black Death now it seems.

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    Darcy says:
    Equally savage? Well, it depends on how you regard widespread by-choice cannibalism (as opposed to the rare cases of insane or starving people). There’s a funny episode in Conrad’s Heart of Darkness where the bored and hungry African leans on the boat and stares at another African saying he like to eat ‘im. He means it.

    Interesting, because you see, actually, European "role models" have had a long history of cannibalism. Sorry to disillusion ..
    http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9026/cannibalismineurope.jpg


    .
    No Global Aid Society ever came to help Europeans progress. They were on their own.

    Not quite. Actually, Europeans are heavy beneficiaries numerous technological and cultural advances crucial to civilization, (from key animal and plant domestication- cattle or wheat for example, to literacy, to advanced metallurgy and a host of other items) that were put in place first by non-Europeans, and then imported along an easy East-West climate axis to Europeans to cash in on the windfall, without having to do the hard, initial, original work themselves.

    On top of this are certain geographical windfalls for Europe, as shown in detail in Jared Diamond's 1997 Guns, Germs and Steel. Other writers such as Sowell 1981 note further geographic windfalls such as navigable river systems and harbor-friendly coastlines that enabled the spread of non-European derived ideas, technology and innovation. Europeans are borrowers from, and copiers of other peoples par excellence, even in cultural products nowadays deemed "European", such as the massively influential Christian religion.

    The Christian religion by the way is the product of a sub-tropical people from the "middle east" not Europeans. These people were, wait for it, called Jews. Whoops.. Now what were you saying about all the stuff Europe supposedly "did on its own"?


    .
    After eliminating the worst punishments and egregious customs, Europeans outlawed or condemned so many ghastly practices in other areas where they had any influence, that I have often wondered why they bothered.
    Are you sure Europeans eliminated the most ghastly practices? Let's take a look at some pace-setting Nordics not too long ago.


    QUOTE:
    ".. at the Janowska death pits in Lvov hundreds of Jewish labourers were forced to dig up those who had been murdered and extract gold teeth and rings from the fingers of the dead. As a witness recounted: 'The fire crackles and sizzles Some of the bodies in the fire have had their hands extended. It looks as if they are pleading to be taken out. Many bodies are lying with open mouths. Could they be trying to say: ;we are your own mothers, fathers, who raised you and took care of you. Now you are burning us.' "
    -- Dan Cohn-Sherbok. 2008. God and the Holocaust. p.11

    "He called the method of mass killing he invented Sardinenpackung. As Meier describes, it involved forcing victims to lie together face down and side and side and killing them with Genickschussen, then forcing the next group of victims who preceded them to form another layer, ignoring the victims; terror and horror in the interest of efficiently filling up the killing pit. Jeckeln's despicably cruel execution protocols destroys SS claims, during and after the warm that its executions were 'correct' military-style executions of partisans. Himmler's goal was mass murder.. By the end of August 1941, commanding the Kommandostab SS First Brigade in the western Ukraine, Jeckeln had personally supervised the murder of more than 44,000 human beings, the largest total of Jews murdered by any of Himmler's virulent legions that month."
    -- Richard Rhodes. Masters of Death: The Ss-Einsatzgruppen .. 2002
     

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    Indeed, the only reason there are countless millions of SSAs, not to mention other POCs, is because of Europeans and the advances they introduced

    Funny you should mention Conrad's "Heart of Darkness." You see kind white colonialists under King Leopold killed about 10 million Africans in establishing Leopold personal fiefdom, the so-called "Congo Free State" (see Adam Rothchild's King Leopold's Ghost for the gory details). I wonder if the murdered appreciated such white "beneficence."

    According to author Hochschild- the colonial regimes own records estimate about 10 million dead from kindly European rule. Quote:


    " An official Belgian government commission in 1919 estimated that from the time Stanley began laying the foundation of Leopold's state, the population of the territory had "been reduced by half." Major Charles C. Libbrechts, a top executive of the Congo state administration for most of its existence, arrived at the same estimate in 1920. The most authoritative judgment comes from Jan Vansina, professor emeritus of history and anthropology at the University of Wisconsin and perhaps the greatest living ethnographer at the University of Wisconsin and perhaps the greatest living ethnographer of the Congo basin peoples. He bases his calculation on 'innumerable local sources from different areas: priests noticing their flocks shrinking, oral traditions, genealogies, and much more.; Hi estimate is the same: between 1880 and 1920, the population of the Congo was cit "by at least a half."..

    In 1924 the population was reckoned at ten million, a figure confirmed by later counts. This would mean, according to the estimates, that during the Leopold period and its immediate aftermath, the population of the territory dropped by approximately ten million people.

    Burned villages, starved hostages, terrified refuges, dying in swamps, orders for 'extermination' - even in crass, purely monetary terms, aren't these inefficient means of doing business? massacring huge numbers of people my frighten the survivors into gathering rubber, but doesn't it destroy the labor force? Indeed it does. Belgian administrators ordered the census in 1924 because they were deeply concerned about a shortage of available workers. 'We run the risk of someday seeing our native population collapse and disappear,' fretfully declared the permanent committee of the National Colonial Congress of Belgium that year. 'So that we will find ourselves confronted with a kind of desert.'

    --Adam Hochschild (1999) King Leopold's Ghost pg. 233
     

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  • “No, I am not a communist; I am a former attorney, as well as a former manager for two different Fortune 500 companies.”

    I don’t recall asking for your resume.

    “I just happen to know the law of the land, as legislated by the Congress, upheld by the courts, and administered by the executive branch, whereas you apparently do not.”

    What part that a company is able to hire whomever they want for tech jobs don’t you understand?

    “Whites found the negro in a Malthusian state of natural balance. Their lives were violent and short, always on the precipice of demise from violence, pestilence, or famine.”

    [Laughs] Do the Vandals and Visogoths, the Black Plague, and the Hundred Years War ring a bell with you? Europeans were also experiencing this balance as well. Europeans and Africans were equally savage in how they approached life.

    “Whites stopped their tribal warfare…’

    Actually, tribal warfare increased dramatically with the implementation of European slavery.

    “cured their diseases”

    “and fed them so that now their population is absurdly beyond their ability to feed themselves guaranteeing a massive burden on whites or famine of unprecedented scale.”
    
Actually, African tribal groups had plenty to eat.

    “At the same time, whites have brought millions upon millions of these negroes into white homelands where they behave exactly as they have always behaved with chaos and violence imposing untold social costs on white societies.”

    Whites “brought” over blacks as slaves in the name of progress. Are you impugning the reputations of those well-intended whites? Race traitor.

    “We send missionaries out to preach the Gospel and convert the “savages” first”
    
Does not God want his flock to reach out to the heathens as their duty to serve Him? Why do you hate the Bible?

    “We don’t need to build roads and hospitals and schools in Africa to obtain germanium.”

    And you have the audacity to call whites “civilized”?

    “whites will be simply swallowed up and subsumed by the demographic tidal wave they’ve created by eliminating the Malthusian population controls on immensely more fecund primitive peoples and the world will be plunged into a new Dark Age or an age where the pragmatic East Asian rules for millennia to come.”



    Bravo, sir, bravo, for your over the top analysis.

    “The White Liberal Greedy Cheating Mega-CEO Class…”

    Most CEO’s are actually conservative who desire the liberty to have LESS regulation. Why do you hate capitalism?

    “for there are thousands of horror stories in the Native Born White American Heartland about the extreme economic violence known as the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Program.”

    Do companies have the liberty to do what they want with their property by hiring whomever they want to associate with?

    “The only thing that has changed is that white misguided beneficence has caused a population explosion destined to create more misery than this world has ever before seen.”

    Hello, anyone home? It was Europeans in the first place who believed that blacks needed to be enslaved and shipped to a place where they could be “properly taught”.

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    "What part that a company is able to hire whomever they want for tech jobs don’t you understand?"

    It "can" in the same sense that you "can" loot a liquor store. Neither of you "can" do so, however, without breaking the law, pinhead.

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  • @Flower
    What a silly, silly article. If current newspapers articles are even somewhat truthful, you should be terrified to your bones. What I am talking about is the announcement that the Bloods and the Crips have banded together in an alliance against cops (i.e. the establishment). What this alliance constitutes is an army, a Guerrilla army, a veteran Guerrilla army, a military trained veteran Guerrilla army. A military trained veteran Guerrilla army who's avowed purpose is to make Whitey's life as miserable as there's.

    Here is what's in store: think about how many hundreds of miles of rush-hour traffic come into existence every week day. Now, imagine in the midst of that rush hour traffic the BloodyCrips bury an IED, which is detonated wife great loss of life and property. How many of you are going to be going to work the next day. And the day after that. Effectively, the whole sheebang has been shut down. Or, an IED in the mall? A hospital?

    The instant that IED goes off and the BloodyCrips claim responsibilty, you can kiss your politicians good bye, as they are now superfluous.

    MS13, El Norte, etc have been encroaching on the home turf of Bloods and Crips in California for quite a long time, whether on the street or in the pen. Mexican/Hispanic gangs represent more danger for a lot of the country than black gangs do, and they are more organized with better quasi-family structures and fertility rates.

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    Ivy, you obviously didn't read what I said. Who cares about the Hispanics and their gangs, they are just another group looking for payback. My feeling is that you see the "urban gang" as some sort of toastier, hyper-"Spanky and the Little Rascals". I note this because the most obvious aspect of your personal defense relies on never your never ending naivete. So, you just keep on believing those govt reports about the inner city turf wars - why you can hang those on your wall right next to the govt's promises and claims about unemployment.

    The difference between the black gangs and the Hispanic gangs is that the blacks have had substantially more military training (courtesy of the US Army) than the Hispanics, primarily because the Hispanics have been a bit slower in getting their people thru the US Army training program. Many members of the black gangs joined the US military (actually, many of them were given the assignment to enroll in the US Army training programs) for a specific purpose: to get trained. What are they training on: weapons, tactics, explosives, communications, etc., all the things a guy could want to create mayhem. The best part is, you paid them to get that training. Now that they have left the army and returned home, guess what they are doing ? That's right, training other Bloods and Crips to makes IEDs and Molotov Cocktails and Napalm straight from the kitchen, plus all the other little fashionable and lethal toys that urban guerrillas lust after.

    Like I said, all it is going to take is an attack on our rush hour traffic, and this country will be on it's knees.

    Let me give you an example of the last thing you are likely to ever see. It's a typical weekday morning, and you've reached that certain bottleneck in the commute, y'know, that place where traffic always seems to turn into a bumper to bumper crawl. In front of you is a late model Lexus with two passengers. Suddenly, the two occupants do a curious thing, they turn off the Lexus, open the doors, and run away. As you watch them leap over the guardrails you sort of note that they didn't look like the kind of guys who could own a Lexus, but, oh well. Ninety-two seconds after those two guys bail, the traffic still hasn't started moving yet, the crude but effective ignition system attached to the 50 gallons of stolen diesel fuel, which is sitting up against an 80 pound sack of stolen Ammonia Nitrate fertilizer times out.
    Two miles away, some old guy who stepped out to get his morning paper, marvels at the latest light show on the Ventura Freeway, as the Lexus explodes in a massive fireball that takes out acres of cars and highway. But, by some miracle there wasn't a gasoline tanker truck next to the Lexus, so you live. Tell me, you going to go to work the next day? Are you going to use the Ventura Highway to get there?

    The Bloods and Crips won't really have to do much after that, except sit and watch whitey tear each other's guts out. Oh, and the best part, right after the explosion, some member of the Bloods or Crips makes an "anonymous" call to the LA Times claiming to be a representative of MS13 and that "we did the bomb so all you Gringos can go to hell!" and laughs and laughs and laughs.

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  • @Enrique Cardova
    Corvinius says:
    Moreover, unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

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    You are correct. Outside of openly sexist/racist/racialist employment denials, (which are illegal) companies can pretty much hire whom they want, and companies at present are too smart to openly post an ad saying "no blacks or women need apply." What dummy would do that these days? But even regarding laws governing discrimination however, whites have found ways to get around them, as bulging EEOC backlog files and court cases show. here are several techniques in play:

    White 'word of mouth. One method used by whites is selective advertising, or word of mouth only advertising of job openings. Cousin Carl passes the word of slots open down at city hall, or out on the plant floor. Only those of a whiter shade get the word. In the past this was more blatant- whites have gotten more sophisticated. Auto plants actually used to post guards to block job seekers, who couldn't enter unless they had SPECIFIC knowledge of, or were making application for a SPECIFIC job opening. Since most of these, except for the most menial slots, were by "the white word" the black candidates had nothing to go on, and were shown the door.


    'Plausible denial' farm out to third parties. EEOC files show whites using third parties like employment agencies to "white out" minority candidates. The agencies use "code words" when notifying employers or "coded" job applications to flag minority candidates for employers so they can be screened out. The code "ask for Maria" for example, means the job seeker is Hispanic. The employer can then kill the Mexican application or route it into the pool for menial only jobs. Note- that on the face of it, the employment agency is a neutral party in full legal compliance, but hidden "coding" gets the job done undercover.

    The white union card. This one is still used by unions in some ways though less blatantly in the past- the bottom line "white out" results however, are the same. To get access to the jobs locked up by the union, you need a union card. To get a union card you need to be nominated by an existing member of the union. Since the union is 95% white, who do you think are gonna get the requisite nominations, and cards? Note all the requirements are "neutral" on the face, but the actual results are, conveniently, white only. This is one of the reasons an exasperated Nixon Administration began its famous Philadelphia quota plan- ordering intransigent white unions benefiting from federal contracts to provide hard numerical proof that they had stopped discriminating.

    The token culluds. Another dodge is to hire a few black or minority tokens, which the employer can show case as proof of "equal opportunity." Once the tokens are in place however, its back to business as usual. The widely reported phenomenon of "tokenism in the 1970s and part of 1980s is part of this pattern. Tokenism has also been applied to make discrimination lawsuits go away. Hence many employers entered into so-called "consent agreements" as part of legal settlements in which they agreed to say, promote the next 5 women, in order to compensate these people who were there for years and never had a chance to move up because they were the wrong gender or race.

    Another benefit of this "go away tokenism" is that any negative fallout could be blamed on "government quotas" or "the culluds." Disgruntled white job seekers for example who resent the slots taken from the white only train can be fobbed off by blaming "quotas for the culluds." One can see this in the white urban legends or just so stories where people say "they know" or "heard of" so and so who didn't get the job because of "quotas." A final benefit of "go away tokenism" is that minority tokens are relatively small in number, and closure of lawsuits means that more embarrassing exposure into long-standing white cronyism, or deeper structural bias is avoided and goes unexamined.

    Have folks worked in a job where there are Jews (e.g., NPR, university admissions, etc), Chinese (restaurants, fill in blank), Chechens (various street-level entrepreneurial jobs), women (schools, more recently accounting firms), take your pick?

    There are ethnic/group-based hiring protocols for most groups, particularly those with tribal-based cultures. Northeastern US labor issues are only part of the national picture, but do benefit from more press. Each region hones its particular approach, as what works in Texas won’t in Idaho, for example.

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    Ivy says:
    There are ethnic/group-based hiring protocols for most groups, particularly those with tribal-based cultures. Northeastern US labor issues are only part of the national picture, but do benefit from more press. Each region hones its particular approach, as what works in Texas won’t in Idaho, for example.
    True and to some extent this, at some level, will never change. Everyone understands that there will always be some of this. But why is it when the Irish good old boys or the Italian paisans lock up the jobs at city hall or down at the plant, and divvy up the goodies only among themselves, everything is fine, but when a black man shows up, then we have a virtual moral crusade "defending" the "sacred" principles of "color-blindness" or "merit" and a slew of IQ "metrics" alleging that blacks need not apply, due to alleged "evolutionary" deficiencies"? As the saying goes, how come white people were not that concerned about "color blindness" or "merit" until a black man showed up for a piece of the action? Anger at this white hypocrisy is one of the things that drove government policies towards preferences for women and minorities. Even the Nixon Administration, which cared little for blacks, but was facing black unrest, got exasperated at white unions and their stonewalling, and pressured them to do deeds, not words, if they wanted federal money to keep flowing.

    Blacks have emulated the Irish example of advancing through political means to some extent. But whereas the Irish fresh off the boat were enrolled as voters and could build the vast and corrupt urban political machines, a huge proportion blacks were disenfranchised until close to 1970. It took the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and subsequent years of enforcement and follow-on litigation to finally make the franchise a reality to the majority of blacks. Blockaded by whites denying them the vote, and lacking the political machines of the Irish, blacks used the only political leverage open to them- demonstrations, marches, lawsuits, and ultimately voting, (once whites ceased sandbagging them) in parallel with these other measures. Again, if an Irish mayor stacks the rolls with his buddies, all is well- its just politics as usual. But when a black mayor does the same, he is violating "timeless principles" of noble "merit," and assorted "IQ metrics"? This is the hypocritical ground that makes up the foundation of assorted 'HBD' narratives.

    But at least you are honest about it- something one doesn't find much in this area.
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  • @Stan D Mute

    He does have some good points, such as, for instance, that white people have been a (shall we say) mixed blessing for the world.
     
    Sure, if by "mixed blessing" you mean utterly non-pragmatic religious zealot driven foolishness. Whites found the negro in a Malthusian state of natural balance. Their lives were violent and short, always on the precipice of demise from violence, pestilence, or famine. Whites stopped their tribal warfare, cured their diseases, and fed them so that now their population is absurdly beyond their ability to feed themselves guaranteeing a massive burden on whites or famine of unprecedented scale. At the same time, whites have brought millions upon millions of these negroes into white homelands where they behave exactly as they have always behaved with chaos and violence imposing untold social costs on white societies. Wash, rinse, and repeat for Central American aborigines and other primitive peoples from other climes such as the desert dwellers of South Asia and North Africa.

    All this has been done in the name of Christian Universalism. We send missionaries out to preach the Gospel and convert the "savages" first. Then we give them the goodies of white invention like medicines, law & order, and food followed by automobiles, trains, and technology. Capitalists follow the missionaries and dig up some raw materials to be sure, but it's a classic case of capitalists socializing costs - those raw materials could well be obtained without any white do-gooder meddling and only minimal disruption of native people and societies. We don't need to build roads and hospitals and schools in Africa to obtain germanium.

    And make no mistake the transfer of wealth has been absolutely staggering. Trillions upon untold trillions of white dollars have been expended trying essentially to make donkeys into thoroughbred horses with exactly predictable results. And all because whites refuse to abandon an ideology that was written thousands of years ago when the world's primitive peoples were yet undiscovered. Whites the world over continue today forking over 10% of their labor on top of the 30-70% taken by force by their governments to extend this "missionary" do-gooder meddling because a character in a story book says "all men are the same" and "everyone can be saved."

    The costs inflicted on white people by these old story books through the two millennia are truly incalculable. If a scientific and pragmatic based ideology isn't adopted soon, whites will be simply swallowed up and subsumed by the demographic tidal wave they've created by eliminating the Malthusian population controls on immensely more fecund primitive peoples and the world will be plunged into a new Dark Age or an age where the pragmatic East Asian rules for millennia to come.

    Stan D Mute says:
    Whites found the negro in a Malthusian state of natural balance.
    Simplistic nonsense. But let’s go with it for a moment, and look at Malthus. Using your own “HBD” approach, actually the very conditions that demonstrate the “Malthusian state” are found very early in Europe, among the Neanderthal progenitors of today’s Europeans, who share some of their genome with Neanderthals. Indeed HBD writer Henry Harpending holds that this mixing with the Neanderthals may contributed to producing a capacity or “spark” for civilization in Europe. Other HBD writers like Michael Bradley support this, holding that such mixing may be also contributory for white genetic lineages selected for violence and aggression. One ultimate expression of this white European evolutionary selection for violence is seen in the Holocaust.

    And “Malthusianism” is old news elsewhere in Europe. Among northern European role models like the white Irish for example, Malthusianism was rampant. In fact the white Irish, indeed the white English, are Exhibit A of “malthusianism” in some eras.

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    Their lives were violent and short, always on the precipice of demise from violence, pestilence, or famine. Whites stopped their tribal warfare, cured their diseases, and fed them so that now their population is absurdly beyond their ability to feed themselves guaranteeing a massive burden on whites or famine of unprecedented scale.
    Bwa hah ahaha hahah.. what ludicrous rubbish. What else these white saviors done- usher in world peace? Oh no. I forgot, They were actually doing 2 World Wars and murdering millions of Jewish kids. And you say they stopped warfare and famine in Africa? Right…. But what’s even more strange, how come they didn’t stop the same in Europe? Why just a few years ago Europeans failed to stop war in the Balkans. What happened to “that old white magic”? And famine has been common place in Europe historically, why, as recently as the 1990s in the Balkans. Why didn’t your “white magic” stop that either?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1315-17

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    All this has been done in the name of Christian Universalism. We send missionaries out to preach the Gospel and convert the “savages” first. Then we give them the goodies of white invention like medicines, law & order, and food followed by automobiles, trains, and technology.
    Mighty Odin! Uh, for one thing, “Christian Universalism” was what converted white people from their tribal gods, and that same Christian religion is based on, and was founded by a sub-tropical people from the “Middle East”, not Europeans. They were called Jews. Maybe you should call it “Jewish Universalism.” But let’s move on.

    You say the white folk gave the culluds all these good things, including food and “law and order”? Gee, now the white colonialists under King Leopold killed about one million Africans in establishing Leopold personal fiefdom, the Congo Free State (see Adam Rothchild’s King Leopold’s Ghost for the gory details). I wonder if they appreciated such white “beneficence.” And you say white people invented food? [[[ collapses on floor in laughter at "HBD" logic]]…

    Capitalists follow the missionaries and dig up some raw materials to be sure, but it’s a classic case of capitalists socializing costs – those raw materials could well be obtained without any white do-gooder meddling and only minimal disruption of native people and societies.
    But your argument is contradictory. You say part of Christian Universalism” was to give the culluds goodies. But now you say its the capitalists. Which is it? Are the capitalists also “Christian universalists’ – sort of like a “Church of Capitalism”?

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    And make no mistake the transfer of wealth has been absolutely staggering. Trillions upon untold trillions of white dollars have been expended ..all because whites refuse to abandon an ideology that was written thousands of years ago when the world’s primitive peoples were yet undiscovered. Whites the world over continue today forking over 10% of their labor on top of the 30-70% taken by force by their governments to extend this “missionary” do-gooder meddling because a character in a story book says “all men are the same” and “everyone can be saved.”

    [[doubles up on floor in continued laughter]].. Ok so lemme see if I can follow your HBD “logic” here. You said the capitalists “dig up some raw materials to be sure”. OK homes, so you mean to tell be out of the goodness of their white hearts they were doing this for free? That’s they didn’t reap any profits from the mines, farms, plantations, and numerous other things they used exploited African labor to build? So King Leopold killed one million people to expand his empire of rubber production just for free, outta the goodness of his white heart? That the diamond and gold mines of South Africa didn’t garner white people any profits- the “trillions and trillions” (channel Carl Sagan) you speak of? [Pause.. for laughter..]

    So you blame it all on these no good Christian do gooders eh? Lol, but you are again contradicting yourself. You tout all the good things done for the culluds – white inventions like medicine and food etc. But then you say the very same missionaries who brought them were no good. How could they be no good if they were bringing all these good things to the natives? You can’t have it both ways.

    And the very same Christian missionaries, who were created by Jews from he sub-tropical middle east, themselves converted tribal Europe to Christianity, and they started numerous “do gooder” projects in Europe too- oh you know things like hospitals, orphanages, feeding the hungry etc etc and even contributed to some philosophical strands like the idea of a covenant. Why would these things be “good” for Europe but “bad” for Africans? Your spiel reveals a persistent anti-Christian strain in ‘HBD; logic.

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    If a scientific and pragmatic based ideology isn’t adopted soon, whites will be simply swallowed up and subsumed by the demographic tidal wave they’ve created by eliminating the Malthusian population controls on immensely more fecund primitive peoples and the world will be plunged into a new Dark Age or an age where the pragmatic East Asian rules for millennia to come.
    lol.. OK let’s go with this “logic” for a moment. How come white people cannot deploy your touted “scientific and pragmatic based ideology” to reverse their demographic decline? Matter of fact, why are white people deploying some of that “science” to kill 2 white babies for each live birth in places like white Russia?

    How come white people with their “pragmatic based ideology” have been so good at killing other white people- as in the tens of millions in Stalin’s Holodomor and the multiple millions in Hitler’s Holocaust? And if as you say, white people done such good things for Africa, why have they done such bad things for and to themselves, back in Europe? How does this mystical “old white magic” explain these contradictions?

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  • @Flower
    What a silly, silly article. If current newspapers articles are even somewhat truthful, you should be terrified to your bones. What I am talking about is the announcement that the Bloods and the Crips have banded together in an alliance against cops (i.e. the establishment). What this alliance constitutes is an army, a Guerrilla army, a veteran Guerrilla army, a military trained veteran Guerrilla army. A military trained veteran Guerrilla army who's avowed purpose is to make Whitey's life as miserable as there's.

    Here is what's in store: think about how many hundreds of miles of rush-hour traffic come into existence every week day. Now, imagine in the midst of that rush hour traffic the BloodyCrips bury an IED, which is detonated wife great loss of life and property. How many of you are going to be going to work the next day. And the day after that. Effectively, the whole sheebang has been shut down. Or, an IED in the mall? A hospital?

    The instant that IED goes off and the BloodyCrips claim responsibilty, you can kiss your politicians good bye, as they are now superfluous.

    If current newspapers articles are even somewhat truthful, you should be terrified to your bones. What I am talking about is the announcement that the Bloods and the Crips have banded together in an alliance against cops (i.e. the establishment). What this alliance constitutes is an army, a Guerrilla army, a veteran Guerrilla army, a military trained veteran Guerrilla army. A military trained veteran Guerrilla army who’s avowed purpose is to make Whitey’s life as miserable as there’s.

    The instant that IED goes off and the BloodyCrips claim responsibilty, you can kiss your politicians good bye, as they are now superfluous.

    That sounds more like white nationalist porn from stormfront or another of the FBI’s entrapment sites than a real threat. There may be some isolated negroes or negro groups worked up enough to say these things, but it won’t go any further. There is a reason they burn down their own neighborhoods rather than going into white neighborhoods or going after cops. At the end of the day, they know that (1) whites are the best friends the negro has ever had and (2) they know where their mama’s EBT card comes from.

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    Yeah Stan, that's quite a tune you're whistling past that graveyard.
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  • War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    I don’t know if you are a White American…Native. I suspect that with high probability that you are not. But your comments are the ones that Asians in the US level at the victims of Asian scab workers imported into the US.

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    You have made a declaration of a race-war against Native Born White American Tech workers who you obviously despise. But let me assure you:Native Born White American Engineers are in a rage state against Asian scab labor in US tech labor markets-whether you want to accept this or not doesn’t matter. The hostility you expressed in your comments can be found in the comments section Steve Sailer’s many posts about race-replacement in the Tech Field by your racial kind. I have read them all, and all the responses from Steve’s Native Born White American Male Readers. Your kind ends up being demolished in the debating game. But, it really isn’t a debating game:you have made an open declaration of a race-war against my people. The Historic Native Born White American Majority is under no obligation to commit racial suicide because you and the Asians imported onto Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space demand it.

    Asians in the US resent the fact that when NASA was 99 percent Native Born White American Male…and America was 90 percent Native Born White American…Native Born White America put 12 Alpha Native Born White American Males…fighter jet test pilots all with advanced engineering degrees on the Moon. Asians in Our America want to make sure that this never happens again..And this is why Asians in the US are actively involved and boast about ethnically cleansing…Genocide…Native Born White Americans out of the Tech…Engineering…Scientific…and Medical labor markets.

    How did Native Born White Americans do when there were hardly any Asians in the US at all? Very Obvious Answer:very well!!!

    And just what exactly is someone who posts comments on One People’s Project doing giving “friendly” advice to Jared Taylor?

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    Blair Mountain says:
    You have made a declaration of a race-war against Native Born White American Tech workers who you obviously despise. But let me assure you:Native Born White American Engineers are in a rage state against Asian scab labor in US tech labor markets-whether you want to accept this or not doesn’t matter.
    lol, why are you pointing the finger at some comments on a blog when your own white leaders are shafting your white tech guys 24/7? Why haven't you written to or lobbied these white tech leaders directly to cease and desist? When you got the chance with the Asian guy Tao, above, by your own admission, you backed off. Why did you back out of confronting the evil Asians big time?

    And as I told you Taylor doesn't really care about your white tech guys. His program depends on priming an older base with race-bait against the culluds. Unless your angry white tech guys can be folded into this program, they are irrelevant to Taylor. Why do you think Taylor ain't sending much cash or attention (aside from basic lip service boilerplate) on your issue? He can't make any money or generate much echo chamber buzz by beating up on some Asian tech guys. Everything depends on focusing on the culluds. For example Taylor wants to bring back a modified Jim Crow- a rollback of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and a return to restrictive racial covenants in housing and other venues. None of this will help your white tech guys. Barring a black guy from eating a hamburger in some restaurant is the least of the worries of a white tech guy. Who the hell cares about the black guy and his hamburger?

    I agree more attention can be paid to white plight on the issue. But Taylor's attention is elsewhere, on more profitable venues. Besides, how much money can Taylor make off your smart white tech guys, who are younger types that are willing to think beyond standard racial boilerplate, compared to an older audience of bashers and bigots who can be primed with easy race-bait talking points?


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    The hostility you expressed in your comments can be found in the comments section Steve Sailer’s many posts about race-replacement in the Tech Field by your racial kind. I have read them all, and all the responses from Steve’s Native Born White American Male Readers. Your kind ends up being demolished in the debating game.

    Bwa hah aha ah ahaha hahah hahaha.... Dude please. Most of Steve Sailer' stuff is lightweight race-bait boilerplate where "the white faithful" chime in agreement. Most of the time they avoid, and run from substantative debate, retreating into race-bait snark rather than stepping up to the plate. Demolish what? Avoidance is their primary tactic. And no one is giving Taylor any "advice", but rather pointing out the contradictions and dilemmas and obstacles his racialist program faces. One of them, by your own suggestion, is connecting with younger, educated white people- like the white tech guys you keep crying about. Younger, more educated white people can see through a lot of the "HBD" bullshiit. Five minutes on Google and they can debunk numerous talking points accepted as virtual gospel by the older set. They are not buying many aspects of his "bash the blacks" approach, or distorted "evolutionary" claims.
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  • @War for Blair Mountain
    John

    You will find this interesting. Back in 2007, on the eve of Narcissistic Kenyan Dear Leaders' Coronation...I had a polite conversation with Field Medalist Terrence Tao over at his blog about the upcomming election. Tao started a conservation about the 2007 POTUS election and wanted his readers opinions. Tao made it very clear that he was a supporter of the Democratic Party. I politely raised the issue of the H1B and L1B Visa Program..but didn't pull any punches about its consequences. Terrence Tao's response went something like this: "We have to have the H1B and L1B Visa Program..blah blah market equilibrium..economic efficiency..econometrics". I could have followed up with a rebuttal, and I am sure Terrence Tao would have engaged me in his usual very civil tone. But I left it at that. I was more curious about what Tao's viewpoint was, and have him state it in public. You can go google my exchange with Terrence Tao...over at his math blog "What's new"...2007 close to election time.

    Of course, I have no doubt that Tao's silly econometric jibber jabber was a cover for his enthusiasm for Han People racial colonization of California-and that economic theory and econometrics requires and demands this.

    Also had some interesting exchanges with German Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder on her blog "Backreaction". Hossenfelder was really angry about the use of Asian scab labor in US Tech labor markets and German Tech and scientific labor markets...expressed through sarcasm about the obvious double standard involved in this issue. As it came time to elect and install Kenyan Dear Leader in the US...Hossenfelders' physicist husband and co-blogger got very nervous and went ballistic on me for not being deferential enough to Kenyan Foriegner Dear Leader. Sabine Hossenfelder asked me politely to stop posting comments on her blog...which I respectfully stopped doing.

    BlairMountain says:
    Tao started a conservation about the 2007 POTUS election and wanted his readers opinions. Tao made it very clear that he was a supporter of the Democratic Party. I politely raised the issue of the H1B and L1B Visa Program..but didn’t pull any punches about its consequences. Terrence Tao’s response went something like this: “We have to have the H1B and L1B Visa Program..blah blah market equilibrium..economic efficiency..econometrics”

    Tao simply recognizes “racial reality” but doesnt want to openly offend. He knows Asians have superior intelligence as shown by the tests etc etc, and he knows more productive, intelligent Asians can be hired to do the work more cheaply than whites. He is right about the market economics. Its nothing personal- just business. Less intelligent whites have to give way to more intelligent, harder working Asians. Why do you think white liberals refuse to give up “affirmative action quotas” even though they have been sharply limited for almost last 2 decades, including California’s Prop 209, which was almost 20 years ago? The so-called “diversity” is not primarily to benefit the small black/brown numbers (at the most 2-5 percent on campus under quotas). They are there to cap Asian numbers so whites with lower test scores get ahead of the Asians. And the nice thing is that the negative feedback on the Asian caps can be blamed on perennial black/brown scapegoats.

    See the erudite analyses of Ron Unz on how universities are discriminating against Asians, and over-representation of Jews, as background. So called “affirmative action” is a convenient weapon to limit higher performing Asians. Smart white people have figured this out already.

    See article by Ron Unz- Asian quotas in the Ivy League” in which quotas are used TO FAVOR WHITES, over Asians.

    http://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/2014/06/asian-quotas-ivy-league-see-nothing-nothing/

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    Of course, I have no doubt that Tao’s silly econometric jibber jabber was a cover for his enthusiasm for Han People racial colonization of California-and that economic theory and econometrics requires and demands this.
    You have to recognize racial reality, and accept the superiority and better productivity of Asians. And you also have to accept the reality that many whites are going into fields where there is less competition from Asians. In fact, some whites are moving AWAY from certain schools and districts to AVOID superior Asian competition. See article below. This is inevitable under an IQ driven regime as favored by many HBDers.

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    Hossenfelders’ physicist husband and co-blogger got very nervous and went ballistic on me for not being deferential enough to Kenyan Foriegner Dear Leader. Sabine Hossenfelder asked me politely to stop posting comments on her blog…which I respectfully stopped doing.
    Could be she was disturbed at the heavy black bashing and racialism as is so typical of many HBDers, and that so often lurks below the surface. But this black bashing, viscerally satisfying as it is, will do little to reverse white demographic or moral decline.

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  • @War for Blair Mountain
    I want to point out to John Derbyshire's readers that the points made by Enrique Cordava were made by Cordova and other Asianphiles in Steve Sailer's Blog over the past several years only to be obliterated and demolished by many of Steve Sailer's commenters.

    Several years ago on You Tube a young teenager Hindu..living in the US.... posted a video arguing that White Americans are absolutely dependent upon Hindus..legal immigrant variety and their US soil born geneline variety. Here is what happened:Hundreds and hundreds of very very nasty hatefull highly racialized comments ripping to shreds the lie of the indispensability of the Hindu in America. It was over-the-top nasty....so nasty that this Hindu teenager pulled the video off of You Tube. You can go google this story. These are of course the kind of Native Born White Americans that Jared Taylor should be mobilizing...which he can't do with truck loads of Robert Plomim's+Rushton's research. I can give you several real world examples of why this strategy wont work.

    My own view of the IQ test score issue and race is this:it is being used to justify Native Born White American Race Replacement in the Tech and Medical Fields. As far as blacks go...we are in the home-break-in and gang rape White Wives and White Daughters era. Good luck quoting Plomin and Rushton to the Rev Sharpton inspired black yuts when you are tied-up-beaten-forced to watch the brutal gang rape of your White Wife and White Daughters. The Greedy Cheating White Class is not immune to being a victim of this kind of stuff...As one well -to-do White Family in Lloyd Neck experienced two decades ago when they were visited by black yuts from Hutington Station one night. The Lloyd Neck Police Chief was fired as a consequence.

    BlairMountain says:
    These are of course the kind of Native Born White Americans that Jared Taylor should be mobilizing…which he can’t do with truck loads of Robert Plomim’s+Rushton’s research. I can give you several real world examples of why this strategy wont work.
    But the level of bile generated is only because of a dumb race-bait video supposedly by a “Hindu” who may simply have been a troll. Its like the alleged “black militants” who show up on assorted websites, spouting “militant” rhetoric, while setting up easy strawmen to be “refuted.” Behind the “militant” persona is usually some lame white guy setting up strawmen. You’re likely being played.

    Now you point out that Taylor won’t get much traction with his Ruston research. Maybe, because its the horns of a dilemma. To get attention and contributions, Taylor has to keep the base pumped with “race-bait” research bashing or disparaging the blacks on the basis of IQ, as one of the primary talking points. This is a cornerstone, a foundation of Taylorism as indeed it is of HBD- the black enemy “Other” who functions the same as the Jews do for Nazism, and today’s anti-Semites. Without this “enemy” for myriad “Two Minutes of Hate,” Taylorism falls apart. So he is not gonna spend much time bashing Asian tech guys. There’s no money or easy base priming benefit in it. Your white tech guys are essentially irrelevant to Taylor, except as part of the general “angry white guy” pool, who can be used in the black/brown-bashing format. Bottom line is- they have to fend for themselves.

    Keep in mind also that Taylor can do little for these guys anyway apart from some boilerplate rhetoric. After all, having put so many of his eggs in the IQ basket, he can’t backtrack when the same IQ measures show that Asians post superior intelligence to whites based on IQ and other tests. Some white leaders have noticed the Asian advantage and have seen that good profits can be reaped thereby. Why pay a white guy $30 an hour in America, when an Asian with the same tech background and equivalent degree can be had for $10 per hour overseas or less, or if imported, maybe $20 per hour or less during that Visa period? Smart white business leaders have done the math.

    Also keep in mind that many smart whites are not going into these technical fields, when greater rewards can be reaped elsewhere. Look at all those white guys going to law school, or look at all the guys going into the FIRE industries (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate)? Why compete against hard-nosed Asians in a more demanding field, when the same or better money can be made elsewhere?

    .
    My own view of the IQ test score issue and race is this:it is being used to justify Native Born White American Race Replacement in the Tech and Medical Fields.
    This replacement is inevitable due to superior Asian intelligence based on the tests. Since many HBD leaders worship IQ they realize that this is the logical end result. White people simply have to specialize elsewhere. But also keep in mind that there is a second irony. Higher IQ whites, on the average, overall, trend more liberal, more homosexual and are not reproducing themselves. So the IQ worshipers are caught in a cruel, second dilemma. Their IQ gods are delivering people with more liberalism, more low fertility, and more instability as the supposedly better folk embrace things like gay marriage and other destructive trends to traditional family arrangements. Their gods must be laughing.

    .As far as blacks go…we are in the home-break-in and gang rape White Wives and White Daughters era. Good luck quoting Plomin and Rushton to the Rev Sharpton inspired black yuts
    See you have proven my point. One third of your post is bashing the enemy blacks. This is the essence of “HBD” and Taylorism. This is the foundation. Your white tech losers are simply a minor sideline, unless they can be brought into this bashing format. Oh sure, Taylor talks about Asians negatively sometimes- but its light boilerplate compared to the main black-bashing project. This is why your hopes of turning the spotlight on Asian competition are doomed.

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  • What a silly, silly article. If current newspapers articles are even somewhat truthful, you should be terrified to your bones. What I am talking about is the announcement that the Bloods and the Crips have banded together in an alliance against cops (i.e. the establishment). What this alliance constitutes is an army, a Guerrilla army, a veteran Guerrilla army, a military trained veteran Guerrilla army. A military trained veteran Guerrilla army who’s avowed purpose is to make Whitey’s life as miserable as there’s.

    Here is what’s in store: think about how many hundreds of miles of rush-hour traffic come into existence every week day. Now, imagine in the midst of that rush hour traffic the BloodyCrips bury an IED, which is detonated wife great loss of life and property. How many of you are going to be going to work the next day. And the day after that. Effectively, the whole sheebang has been shut down. Or, an IED in the mall? A hospital?

    The instant that IED goes off and the BloodyCrips claim responsibilty, you can kiss your politicians good bye, as they are now superfluous.

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    If current newspapers articles are even somewhat truthful, you should be terrified to your bones. What I am talking about is the announcement that the Bloods and the Crips have banded together in an alliance against cops (i.e. the establishment). What this alliance constitutes is an army, a Guerrilla army, a veteran Guerrilla army, a military trained veteran Guerrilla army. A military trained veteran Guerrilla army who’s avowed purpose is to make Whitey’s life as miserable as there’s.
     

    The instant that IED goes off and the BloodyCrips claim responsibilty, you can kiss your politicians good bye, as they are now superfluous.
     
    That sounds more like white nationalist porn from stormfront or another of the FBI's entrapment sites than a real threat. There may be some isolated negroes or negro groups worked up enough to say these things, but it won't go any further. There is a reason they burn down their own neighborhoods rather than going into white neighborhoods or going after cops. At the end of the day, they know that (1) whites are the best friends the negro has ever had and (2) they know where their mama's EBT card comes from.
    , @Ivy
    MS13, El Norte, etc have been encroaching on the home turf of Bloods and Crips in California for quite a long time, whether on the street or in the pen. Mexican/Hispanic gangs represent more danger for a lot of the country than black gangs do, and they are more organized with better quasi-family structures and fertility rates.
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  • @Corvinus
    "Companies (and other employers) are not allowed to hire whomever they prefer!"

    Try to keep up. I was responding rhetorically to Battle for Blair Mountain, who was complaining about the number of Asians being hired by companies. It is well within their liberty to procure employment from Asians, blacks, whites, Hispanics, or females. That is, unless one is a communist. Are you a communist?

    Moreover, unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

    Corvinius says:
    Moreover, unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

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    You are correct. Outside of openly sexist/racist/racialist employment denials, (which are illegal) companies can pretty much hire whom they want, and companies at present are too smart to openly post an ad saying “no blacks or women need apply.” What dummy would do that these days? But even regarding laws governing discrimination however, whites have found ways to get around them, as bulging EEOC backlog files and court cases show. here are several techniques in play:

    White ‘word of mouth. One method used by whites is selective advertising, or word of mouth only advertising of job openings. Cousin Carl passes the word of slots open down at city hall, or out on the plant floor. Only those of a whiter shade get the word. In the past this was more blatant- whites have gotten more sophisticated. Auto plants actually used to post guards to block job seekers, who couldn’t enter unless they had SPECIFIC knowledge of, or were making application for a SPECIFIC job opening. Since most of these, except for the most menial slots, were by “the white word” the black candidates had nothing to go on, and were shown the door.

    ‘Plausible denial’ farm out to third parties. EEOC files show whites using third parties like employment agencies to “white out” minority candidates. The agencies use “code words” when notifying employers or “coded” job applications to flag minority candidates for employers so they can be screened out. The code “ask for Maria” for example, means the job seeker is Hispanic. The employer can then kill the Mexican application or route it into the pool for menial only jobs. Note- that on the face of it, the employment agency is a neutral party in full legal compliance, but hidden “coding” gets the job done undercover.

    The white union card. This one is still used by unions in some ways though less blatantly in the past- the bottom line “white out” results however, are the same. To get access to the jobs locked up by the union, you need a union card. To get a union card you need to be nominated by an existing member of the union. Since the union is 95% white, who do you think are gonna get the requisite nominations, and cards? Note all the requirements are “neutral” on the face, but the actual results are, conveniently, white only. This is one of the reasons an exasperated Nixon Administration began its famous Philadelphia quota plan- ordering intransigent white unions benefiting from federal contracts to provide hard numerical proof that they had stopped discriminating.

    The token culluds. Another dodge is to hire a few black or minority tokens, which the employer can show case as proof of “equal opportunity.” Once the tokens are in place however, its back to business as usual. The widely reported phenomenon of “tokenism in the 1970s and part of 1980s is part of this pattern. Tokenism has also been applied to make discrimination lawsuits go away. Hence many employers entered into so-called “consent agreements” as part of legal settlements in which they agreed to say, promote the next 5 women, in order to compensate these people who were there for years and never had a chance to move up because they were the wrong gender or race.

    Another benefit of this “go away tokenism” is that any negative fallout could be blamed on “government quotas” or “the culluds.” Disgruntled white job seekers for example who resent the slots taken from the white only train can be fobbed off by blaming “quotas for the culluds.” One can see this in the white urban legends or just so stories where people say “they know” or “heard of” so and so who didn’t get the job because of “quotas.” A final benefit of “go away tokenism” is that minority tokens are relatively small in number, and closure of lawsuits means that more embarrassing exposure into long-standing white cronyism, or deeper structural bias is avoided and goes unexamined.

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    Have folks worked in a job where there are Jews (e.g., NPR, university admissions, etc), Chinese (restaurants, fill in blank), Chechens (various street-level entrepreneurial jobs), women (schools, more recently accounting firms), take your pick?

    There are ethnic/group-based hiring protocols for most groups, particularly those with tribal-based cultures. Northeastern US labor issues are only part of the national picture, but do benefit from more press. Each region hones its particular approach, as what works in Texas won't in Idaho, for example.
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  • @travis
    Solving the race problem, as defined by Jared, is pointless.

    The problem is not convincing the general public about racial differences.
    The general public is already convinced, while the elite who control the media also know the races have significant differences (they hide their true beliefs, and use the enforcers of political correctness to maintain their power and punish outsiders)

    But even if the media began to promote the same racial views as Jared, whites in America are a shrinking demographic. Embracing the racial views of Jared Taylor may result in more immigration from Asian, but would not result in white women having more children.

    The only true solution is saving the white race entails convincing the public to reject "feminism" and other leftists creeds which destroy the family.

    Feminism is the biggest reason America has less white people today than 20 years ago.

    while highlighting the differences between races, Jared Taylor and other race realists have failed to focus on the destructive path we have been driven to due to feminism...The general public is quite aware that blacks have lower IQs than whites....but without convincing white women to form families and raise their children the white race will continue to shrink

    Travis says:
    Solving the race problem, as defined by Jared, is pointless. The problem is not convincing the general public about racial differences.

    Agreed, and there is an important flip side to what you say. While most whites would agree that there are racial differences, and that IQ tests and such make blacks appear less intelligent than whites, they distrust the oft sneering “HBD” flavor surrounding the whole issue, and distrust the HBD baiters, bashers and bigots often lurking just below the surface, including the anti-Semites, and the Anglophile types bashing other white ethnics like Italians.

    Most white Americans do not want to get into a draining round of “white supremacy” battles either, and would actually like to put numerous unsavory aspects of white supremacism such as Jim Crow and Nazism behind them. White people as even some black conservatives like Shelby Steele say, don’t want their racial sins brought up. When they see “HBD” proponents virtually endorsing those unsavory aspects of the past, under an “IQ” banner, they are not enthusiastic to jump on the bandwagon, because they know there will be fierce pushback from the no longer quiescent culluds. More pushback means more exposure, and more attacks heaped against self-serving white myths of goodness and light.

    Here is the first central dilemma for the Taylorites. They can always draw a crowd by railing against the culluds, sneeringly playing up the “IQ card”, but that same sneering, or barely veiled sneer approach is a turn off to many white Americans. Such a card plays well in the usual echo chambers and can always get some short term press. But in the long run people consider the implications and see that the Taylorites want to bring back a painful, at times shameful era- from reappeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, to the restoration of enforceable racial covenants in property ownership.

    Most whites for example do not want government telling Jews and blacks where they can or cannot live. Nor do they want smirking hotel operators turning away black families just trying to get a room for the night as they travel cross-country because they are “not white enough.” Who needs to re-fight that crap? They do not want government agents barging into the bedrooms of interracial couples in the night hours (as happened with the landmark Loving case) in search of “interracial criminals.” White America wants no part with that, and the subtle “IQ” insinuations of the HBD set which provide an unspoken “IQ justification” for this past, turns them off.

    In fact, this is one of the key vulnerabilities of Taylorism- the liberals will have a field day going after the veiled racialism or racism below the surface, and will exploit it to the hilt. Hence the insoluble dilemma- racism is necessary to mobilize the “HBD” base, but racism will provoke the fiercest pushback from the culluds, and the most damaging liberal counter-attacks.

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  • @Stan D Mute

    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?
     
    It must have been taxing to take a break from your "peaceful demonstrating" in Baltimore to write this comment, but the absurdity of it was very entertaining and inspiring. I decided to do a google image search for the majestic and modern Botswana and found some sterling examples of its wealth and modernity. Consider for example the Botswanan businessmen on their way to a technology launch review meeting with their white manservant:

    http://www.intrepidtravel.com/sites/default/files/elements/product/hero/botswana_maun_tall_12.jpg

    Or these future nuclear physicists taking a brief respite from their studies:

    http://www.heybrian.com/lib/images/travels/botswana/botswana_kids.jpg

    Oh heck. You can work that Google thingy yourself right? Use that to find the World Bank stats on Botswana and see the per capita income is $7,700 and life expectancy is 47yrs. According to the CIA, Botswana's economy is diamond mining and tourism. So white folk paying for sparkly trinkets and white folks visiting to see lions and elephants. It also has one of the world's highest AIDS infection rates at 21.86%. Now the CIA isn't saying, but there is a common AIDS cure in Botswana and that is raping infants - perhaps this is part of the nation's very high infant mortality rate?

    I could keep going with this, but I've now become depressed. The amount of misery Africa inflicts on itself, not to mention the misery it exports into white countries, is incomprehensible to my apparently "racist" mind. Every time I read about Africa or watch video shot in Africa or just visit an African colony like Detroit, I feel like Marlow in Conrad's Heart of Darkness. The only thing that has changed is that white misguided beneficence has caused a population explosion destined to create more misery than this world has ever before seen.

    Wow. Guess you got me there. Egg on my face. How embarrassing.

    Re: “peaceful demonstrating,” see:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot

    So apparently black people riot when they perceive that they’ve been treated unjustly. Whites, in contrast, riot when their hockey team wins. Or loses. Or both. It’s frankly hard to tell.

    Re: photos apparently supposed to demonstrate something, see:

    Main “street” in Dacia, Romania: https://www.flickr.com/photos/143andy/2422791645/
    Street scene from Russia:Russia again:
    I know, I know: Of course those countries are behind the economic eight-ball; they lived under communism for decades. Botswana lived under colonialism for nearly a century.

    Re: World Bank income data on Botswana

    Well, I don’t think GNI means what you think it means. Here’s a more comprehensive list:

    http://data.worldbank.org/topic/economy-and-growth?display=graph

    See the one for Europe and Central Asia? See how Botswana’s is more? Yeah, that’s weird, huh?

    Re: Botswana’s sources of wealth

    You know why Greece’s economy is in the toilet? Because among its primary industries is tourism. Ditto for Spain and Italy. You also demonstrate the sheer extent to which you’re ignorant of the significance of the diamond trade outside of luxury goods. The vast majority of the diamond trade goes to fulfill industrial needs.

    Re: AIDS in Botswana

    Again, based on the principle that even the stopped clock is right twice per day, you got me on this one. Botswana has a critically high HIV rate — the second highest in the world, it turns out. In fact, the top 25 countries on the list are all in Africa and/or have predominantly black populations. I suppose we could debate why that is — I mean, other than the disease being indigenous to the continent, the sheer communicability of the disease, population density, non-Western sexual morés, poor immune resistance due to poor public health, sex tourism by white people, and so on, but where would it really get us? Instead, just for kicks, let’s look at the places outside of Africa where AIDS rates are very high.

    Suriname is both not in Africathat does not have a predominantly black population — and in fact, it has a higher rate than some 30 countries in Africa. Suriname is predominantly populated by people from South and East Asia. Do we make some gross generalization about South and East Asian people on the basis of the high rate of AIDS in Suriname? Why or why not?

    You know which European country has the highest rate? Estonia! I mean, have you seen just how white those people are?

    Given how white Estonians (or as I like to call them, “Finns without money”) are, do you think I can conclude that, the more white a person is, the more likely it is that s/he is going to have AIDS? And if not, then why not?

    Re: How people in Botswana “cure” AIDS

    Prove it. I mean, I understand that all black people look alike to you, but does the fact that some idiotic black people believe this mean that it can be generalized across all Africans? Jeffrey Dahmer was a white American: What does that say about you?

    Re: Your apparently “racist” mind

    You can dispense with the quotation marks.

    You’re welcome.

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  • Immigrant from former USSR [AKA "Florida Resident"] says:
    @Stan D Mute

    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?
     
    It must have been taxing to take a break from your "peaceful demonstrating" in Baltimore to write this comment, but the absurdity of it was very entertaining and inspiring. I decided to do a google image search for the majestic and modern Botswana and found some sterling examples of its wealth and modernity. Consider for example the Botswanan businessmen on their way to a technology launch review meeting with their white manservant:

    http://www.intrepidtravel.com/sites/default/files/elements/product/hero/botswana_maun_tall_12.jpg

    Or these future nuclear physicists taking a brief respite from their studies:

    http://www.heybrian.com/lib/images/travels/botswana/botswana_kids.jpg

    Oh heck. You can work that Google thingy yourself right? Use that to find the World Bank stats on Botswana and see the per capita income is $7,700 and life expectancy is 47yrs. According to the CIA, Botswana's economy is diamond mining and tourism. So white folk paying for sparkly trinkets and white folks visiting to see lions and elephants. It also has one of the world's highest AIDS infection rates at 21.86%. Now the CIA isn't saying, but there is a common AIDS cure in Botswana and that is raping infants - perhaps this is part of the nation's very high infant mortality rate?

    I could keep going with this, but I've now become depressed. The amount of misery Africa inflicts on itself, not to mention the misery it exports into white countries, is incomprehensible to my apparently "racist" mind. Every time I read about Africa or watch video shot in Africa or just visit an African colony like Detroit, I feel like Marlow in Conrad's Heart of Darkness. The only thing that has changed is that white misguided beneficence has caused a population explosion destined to create more misery than this world has ever before seen.

    It would be interesting to compare
    Joseph Conrad’ perception of Africa in general, see “Heart of Darkness”,
    with the perception of Alexander McCall Smith, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_McCall_Smith ,
    who “help[ed] co-found and teach law at the University of Botswana.”
    His most known book is “The No.1 Ladies’ Detective Agency”.
    I read in full both books mentioned above.
    Interestingly, Alexander McCall Smith’s fiction
    was recommended to me by a person,
    who earned “Knighthood” in Britain by his work known to Derbyshire.
    Actually you should not compare those books.
    It is like comparing Anna Netrebko and Édith Piaf,
    and I do not know who plays who’s role.
    I have never been to Africa, and should not (and will not) express any opinion.

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  • War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    John

    You will find this interesting. Back in 2007, on the eve of Narcissistic Kenyan Dear Leaders’ Coronation…I had a polite conversation with Field Medalist Terrence Tao over at his blog about the upcomming election. Tao started a conservation about the 2007 POTUS election and wanted his readers opinions. Tao made it very clear that he was a supporter of the Democratic Party. I politely raised the issue of the H1B and L1B Visa Program..but didn’t pull any punches about its consequences. Terrence Tao’s response went something like this: “We have to have the H1B and L1B Visa Program..blah blah market equilibrium..economic efficiency..econometrics”. I could have followed up with a rebuttal, and I am sure Terrence Tao would have engaged me in his usual very civil tone. But I left it at that. I was more curious about what Tao’s viewpoint was, and have him state it in public. You can go google my exchange with Terrence Tao…over at his math blog “What’s new”…2007 close to election time.

    Of course, I have no doubt that Tao’s silly econometric jibber jabber was a cover for his enthusiasm for Han People racial colonization of California-and that economic theory and econometrics requires and demands this.

    Also had some interesting exchanges with German Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder on her blog “Backreaction”. Hossenfelder was really angry about the use of Asian scab labor in US Tech labor markets and German Tech and scientific labor markets…expressed through sarcasm about the obvious double standard involved in this issue. As it came time to elect and install Kenyan Dear Leader in the US…Hossenfelders’ physicist husband and co-blogger got very nervous and went ballistic on me for not being deferential enough to Kenyan Foriegner Dear Leader. Sabine Hossenfelder asked me politely to stop posting comments on her blog…which I respectfully stopped doing.

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    BlairMountain says:
    Tao started a conservation about the 2007 POTUS election and wanted his readers opinions. Tao made it very clear that he was a supporter of the Democratic Party. I politely raised the issue of the H1B and L1B Visa Program..but didn’t pull any punches about its consequences. Terrence Tao’s response went something like this: “We have to have the H1B and L1B Visa Program..blah blah market equilibrium..economic efficiency..econometrics”

    Tao simply recognizes "racial reality" but doesnt want to openly offend. He knows Asians have superior intelligence as shown by the tests etc etc, and he knows more productive, intelligent Asians can be hired to do the work more cheaply than whites. He is right about the market economics. Its nothing personal- just business. Less intelligent whites have to give way to more intelligent, harder working Asians. Why do you think white liberals refuse to give up "affirmative action quotas" even though they have been sharply limited for almost last 2 decades, including California's Prop 209, which was almost 20 years ago? The so-called "diversity" is not primarily to benefit the small black/brown numbers (at the most 2-5 percent on campus under quotas). They are there to cap Asian numbers so whites with lower test scores get ahead of the Asians. And the nice thing is that the negative feedback on the Asian caps can be blamed on perennial black/brown scapegoats.

    See the erudite analyses of Ron Unz on how universities are discriminating against Asians, and over-representation of Jews, as background. So called "affirmative action" is a convenient weapon to limit higher performing Asians. Smart white people have figured this out already.

    See article by Ron Unz- Asian quotas in the Ivy League" in which quotas are used TO FAVOR WHITES, over Asians.
    http://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/2014/06/asian-quotas-ivy-league-see-nothing-nothing/


    .
    Of course, I have no doubt that Tao’s silly econometric jibber jabber was a cover for his enthusiasm for Han People racial colonization of California-and that economic theory and econometrics requires and demands this.
    You have to recognize racial reality, and accept the superiority and better productivity of Asians. And you also have to accept the reality that many whites are going into fields where there is less competition from Asians. In fact, some whites are moving AWAY from certain schools and districts to AVOID superior Asian competition. See article below. This is inevitable under an IQ driven regime as favored by many HBDers.

    .
    Hossenfelders’ physicist husband and co-blogger got very nervous and went ballistic on me for not being deferential enough to Kenyan Foriegner Dear Leader. Sabine Hossenfelder asked me politely to stop posting comments on her blog…which I respectfully stopped doing.
    Could be she was disturbed at the heavy black bashing and racialism as is so typical of many HBDers, and that so often lurks below the surface. But this black bashing, viscerally satisfying as it is, will do little to reverse white demographic or moral decline.

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  • @Andrew E. Mathis

    Right, black Africa has done a bang up job in promoting equal rights for homosexuals.
     
    Actually, given the analogy of the stopped clock being right twice per day, you're correct that gay rights are in terrible shape in Africa. Where you're wrong is ascribing that (apparently) to the race of the people that live there. Actually, there are two big factors in anti-gay discrimation in Africa. The first is Islam; the second is colonialism. None of the non-Muslim countries in sub-Saharan Africa had cultural biases against homosexuality before colonialism. The anti-gay legislation was introduced almost entirely under colonialism by Europeans. Since the end of colonialism, the major factor driving radical anti-gay agendas has actually been American fundamentalist Christianity.

    I suggest that Ronald West review the status of every geographical entity where blacks run the government, every geographical entity where blacks are a majority. Not a pretty picture.
     
    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?

    Of course, everyone knows about the incredible black work ethic.
     
    It's almost like they have cushy library jobs at which they spend all day online moderating anti-Semitic Internet forums. The nerve!

    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?

    It must have been taxing to take a break from your “peaceful demonstrating” in Baltimore to write this comment, but the absurdity of it was very entertaining and inspiring. I decided to do a google image search for the majestic and modern Botswana and found some sterling examples of its wealth and modernity. Consider for example the Botswanan businessmen on their way to a technology launch review meeting with their white manservant:

    Or these future nuclear physicists taking a brief respite from their studies:

    Oh heck. You can work that Google thingy yourself right? Use that to find the World Bank stats on Botswana and see the per capita income is $7,700 and life expectancy is 47yrs. According to the CIA, Botswana’s economy is diamond mining and tourism. So white folk paying for sparkly trinkets and white folks visiting to see lions and elephants. It also has one of the world’s highest AIDS infection rates at 21.86%. Now the CIA isn’t saying, but there is a common AIDS cure in Botswana and that is raping infants – perhaps this is part of the nation’s very high infant mortality rate?

    I could keep going with this, but I’ve now become depressed. The amount of misery Africa inflicts on itself, not to mention the misery it exports into white countries, is incomprehensible to my apparently “racist” mind. Every time I read about Africa or watch video shot in Africa or just visit an African colony like Detroit, I feel like Marlow in Conrad’s Heart of Darkness. The only thing that has changed is that white misguided beneficence has caused a population explosion destined to create more misery than this world has ever before seen.

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    It would be interesting to compare
    Joseph Conrad' perception of Africa in general, see "Heart of Darkness",
    with the perception of Alexander McCall Smith, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_McCall_Smith ,
    who "help[ed] co-found and teach law at the University of Botswana."
    His most known book is "The No.1 Ladies' Detective Agency".
    I read in full both books mentioned above.
    Interestingly, Alexander McCall Smith's fiction
    was recommended to me by a person,
    who earned "Knighthood" in Britain by his work known to Derbyshire.
    Actually you should not compare those books.
    It is like comparing Anna Netrebko and Édith Piaf,
    and I do not know who plays who's role.
    I have never been to Africa, and should not (and will not) express any opinion.
    , @Andrew E. Mathis
    Wow. Guess you got me there. Egg on my face. How embarrassing.

    Re: “peaceful demonstrating,” see:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot

    So apparently black people riot when they perceive that they’ve been treated unjustly. Whites, in contrast, riot when their hockey team wins. Or loses. Or both. It’s frankly hard to tell.

    Re: photos apparently supposed to demonstrate something, see:

    Main “street” in Dacia, Romania: https://www.flickr.com/photos/143andy/2422791645/
    Street scene from Russia: http://motorcitytimes.com/mct/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/RussiaStreet.jpg
    Russia again: http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/52d9c125eab8eaae6ac10be5-480/russia-poverty.jpg

    I know, I know: Of course those countries are behind the economic eight-ball; they lived under communism for decades. Botswana lived under colonialism for nearly a century.

    Re: World Bank income data on Botswana

    Well, I don’t think GNI means what you think it means. Here’s a more comprehensive list:

    http://data.worldbank.org/topic/economy-and-growth?display=graph

    See the one for Europe and Central Asia? See how Botswana’s is more? Yeah, that’s weird, huh?

    Re: Botswana’s sources of wealth

    You know why Greece’s economy is in the toilet? Because among its primary industries is tourism. Ditto for Spain and Italy. You also demonstrate the sheer extent to which you’re ignorant of the significance of the diamond trade outside of luxury goods. The vast majority of the diamond trade goes to fulfill industrial needs.

    Re: AIDS in Botswana

    Again, based on the principle that even the stopped clock is right twice per day, you got me on this one. Botswana has a critically high HIV rate — the second highest in the world, it turns out. In fact, the top 25 countries on the list are all in Africa and/or have predominantly black populations. I suppose we could debate why that is — I mean, other than the disease being indigenous to the continent, the sheer communicability of the disease, population density, non-Western sexual morés, poor immune resistance due to poor public health, sex tourism by white people, and so on, but where would it really get us? Instead, just for kicks, let’s look at the places outside of Africa where AIDS rates are very high.

    Suriname is both not in Africathat does not have a predominantly black population — and in fact, it has a higher rate than some 30 countries in Africa. Suriname is predominantly populated by people from South and East Asia. Do we make some gross generalization about South and East Asian people on the basis of the high rate of AIDS in Suriname? Why or why not?

    You know which European country has the highest rate? Estonia! I mean, have you seen just how white those people are?

    http://f.elu24.ee/f/2011/07/01/649686t54hdda0.jpg

    Given how white Estonians (or as I like to call them, "Finns without money") are, do you think I can conclude that, the more white a person is, the more likely it is that s/he is going to have AIDS? And if not, then why not?

    Re: How people in Botswana “cure” AIDS

    Prove it. I mean, I understand that all black people look alike to you, but does the fact that some idiotic black people believe this mean that it can be generalized across all Africans? Jeffrey Dahmer was a white American: What does that say about you?

    Re: Your apparently “racist” mind

    You can dispense with the quotation marks.

    You’re welcome.

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  • War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:
    @Corvinus
    "Companies (and other employers) are not allowed to hire whomever they prefer!"

    Try to keep up. I was responding rhetorically to Battle for Blair Mountain, who was complaining about the number of Asians being hired by companies. It is well within their liberty to procure employment from Asians, blacks, whites, Hispanics, or females. That is, unless one is a communist. Are you a communist?

    Moreover, unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

    The White Liberal Greedy Cheating Mega-CEO Class(also forcing Social and Cultural Filth on American Society) gets two choices:1)Massive wealth confiscation…because it was stolen…and a one way ticket with family to a Sudanese slave market in the Sudan…or 2)rusty barbed-wire around the neck from street lights should they decide to stay in the America.

    I never liked the argument for slavery..which you basically made…and I still don’t like it.

    Jared Taylor should have made American Renaissance into a Wall of Horror Stories from Native Born White American Victims of the Asian Scab Labor H1B and L1B Visa Program….if he was a serious Native Born White American Racial Patriot…..for there are thousands of horror stories in the Native Born White American Heartland about the extreme economic violence known as the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Program.

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  • @Stealth
    He does have some good points, such as, for instance, that white people have been a (shall we say) mixed blessing for the world. It doesn't matter, though. His response is filled with the kinds of things liberals say when they want to shut down a discussion. They don't want to talk about it, and they don't want you to, either.

    He does have some good points, such as, for instance, that white people have been a (shall we say) mixed blessing for the world.

    Sure, if by “mixed blessing” you mean utterly non-pragmatic religious zealot driven foolishness. Whites found the negro in a Malthusian state of natural balance. Their lives were violent and short, always on the precipice of demise from violence, pestilence, or famine. Whites stopped their tribal warfare, cured their diseases, and fed them so that now their population is absurdly beyond their ability to feed themselves guaranteeing a massive burden on whites or famine of unprecedented scale. At the same time, whites have brought millions upon millions of these negroes into white homelands where they behave exactly as they have always behaved with chaos and violence imposing untold social costs on white societies. Wash, rinse, and repeat for Central American aborigines and other primitive peoples from other climes such as the desert dwellers of South Asia and North Africa.

    All this has been done in the name of Christian Universalism. We send missionaries out to preach the Gospel and convert the “savages” first. Then we give them the goodies of white invention like medicines, law & order, and food followed by automobiles, trains, and technology. Capitalists follow the missionaries and dig up some raw materials to be sure, but it’s a classic case of capitalists socializing costs – those raw materials could well be obtained without any white do-gooder meddling and only minimal disruption of native people and societies. We don’t need to build roads and hospitals and schools in Africa to obtain germanium.

    And make no mistake the transfer of wealth has been absolutely staggering. Trillions upon untold trillions of white dollars have been expended trying essentially to make donkeys into thoroughbred horses with exactly predictable results. And all because whites refuse to abandon an ideology that was written thousands of years ago when the world’s primitive peoples were yet undiscovered. Whites the world over continue today forking over 10% of their labor on top of the 30-70% taken by force by their governments to extend this “missionary” do-gooder meddling because a character in a story book says “all men are the same” and “everyone can be saved.”

    The costs inflicted on white people by these old story books through the two millennia are truly incalculable. If a scientific and pragmatic based ideology isn’t adopted soon, whites will be simply swallowed up and subsumed by the demographic tidal wave they’ve created by eliminating the Malthusian population controls on immensely more fecund primitive peoples and the world will be plunged into a new Dark Age or an age where the pragmatic East Asian rules for millennia to come.

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    Stan D Mute says:
    Whites found the negro in a Malthusian state of natural balance.
    Simplistic nonsense. But let's go with it for a moment, and look at Malthus. Using your own "HBD" approach, actually the very conditions that demonstrate the "Malthusian state" are found very early in Europe, among the Neanderthal progenitors of today's Europeans, who share some of their genome with Neanderthals. Indeed HBD writer Henry Harpending holds that this mixing with the Neanderthals may contributed to producing a capacity or "spark" for civilization in Europe. Other HBD writers like Michael Bradley support this, holding that such mixing may be also contributory for white genetic lineages selected for violence and aggression. One ultimate expression of this white European evolutionary selection for violence is seen in the Holocaust.

    And "Malthusianism" is old news elsewhere in Europe. Among northern European role models like the white Irish for example, Malthusianism was rampant. In fact the white Irish, indeed the white English, are Exhibit A of "malthusianism" in some eras.

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    Their lives were violent and short, always on the precipice of demise from violence, pestilence, or famine. Whites stopped their tribal warfare, cured their diseases, and fed them so that now their population is absurdly beyond their ability to feed themselves guaranteeing a massive burden on whites or famine of unprecedented scale.
    Bwa hah ahaha hahah.. what ludicrous rubbish. What else these white saviors done- usher in world peace? Oh no. I forgot, They were actually doing 2 World Wars and murdering millions of Jewish kids. And you say they stopped warfare and famine in Africa? Right.... But what's even more strange, how come they didn't stop the same in Europe? Why just a few years ago Europeans failed to stop war in the Balkans. What happened to "that old white magic"? And famine has been common place in Europe historically, why, as recently as the 1990s in the Balkans. Why didn't your "white magic" stop that either?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1315-17

    .
    All this has been done in the name of Christian Universalism. We send missionaries out to preach the Gospel and convert the “savages” first. Then we give them the goodies of white invention like medicines, law & order, and food followed by automobiles, trains, and technology.
    Mighty Odin! Uh, for one thing, "Christian Universalism" was what converted white people from their tribal gods, and that same Christian religion is based on, and was founded by a sub-tropical people from the "Middle East", not Europeans. They were called Jews. Maybe you should call it "Jewish Universalism." But let's move on.

    You say the white folk gave the culluds all these good things, including food and "law and order"? Gee, now the white colonialists under King Leopold killed about one million Africans in establishing Leopold personal fiefdom, the Congo Free State (see Adam Rothchild's King Leopold's Ghost for the gory details). I wonder if they appreciated such white "beneficence." And you say white people invented food? [[[ collapses on floor in laughter at "HBD" logic]]...


    Capitalists follow the missionaries and dig up some raw materials to be sure, but it’s a classic case of capitalists socializing costs - those raw materials could well be obtained without any white do-gooder meddling and only minimal disruption of native people and societies.
    But your argument is contradictory. You say part of Christian Universalism" was to give the culluds goodies. But now you say its the capitalists. Which is it? Are the capitalists also "Christian universalists' - sort of like a "Church of Capitalism"?

    .
    And make no mistake the transfer of wealth has been absolutely staggering. Trillions upon untold trillions of white dollars have been expended ..all because whites refuse to abandon an ideology that was written thousands of years ago when the world’s primitive peoples were yet undiscovered. Whites the world over continue today forking over 10% of their labor on top of the 30-70% taken by force by their governments to extend this “missionary” do-gooder meddling because a character in a story book says “all men are the same” and “everyone can be saved.”

    [[doubles up on floor in continued laughter]].. Ok so lemme see if I can follow your HBD "logic" here. You said the capitalists "dig up some raw materials to be sure". OK homes, so you mean to tell be out of the goodness of their white hearts they were doing this for free? That's they didn't reap any profits from the mines, farms, plantations, and numerous other things they used exploited African labor to build? So King Leopold killed one million people to expand his empire of rubber production just for free, outta the goodness of his white heart? That the diamond and gold mines of South Africa didn't garner white people any profits- the "trillions and trillions" (channel Carl Sagan) you speak of? [Pause.. for laughter..]

    So you blame it all on these no good Christian do gooders eh? Lol, but you are again contradicting yourself. You tout all the good things done for the culluds - white inventions like medicine and food etc. But then you say the very same missionaries who brought them were no good. How could they be no good if they were bringing all these good things to the natives? You can't have it both ways.

    And the very same Christian missionaries, who were created by Jews from he sub-tropical middle east, themselves converted tribal Europe to Christianity, and they started numerous "do gooder" projects in Europe too- oh you know things like hospitals, orphanages, feeding the hungry etc etc and even contributed to some philosophical strands like the idea of a covenant. Why would these things be "good" for Europe but "bad" for Africans? Your spiel reveals a persistent anti-Christian strain in 'HBD; logic.


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    If a scientific and pragmatic based ideology isn’t adopted soon, whites will be simply swallowed up and subsumed by the demographic tidal wave they’ve created by eliminating the Malthusian population controls on immensely more fecund primitive peoples and the world will be plunged into a new Dark Age or an age where the pragmatic East Asian rules for millennia to come.
    lol.. OK let's go with this "logic" for a moment. How come white people cannot deploy your touted "scientific and pragmatic based ideology" to reverse their demographic decline? Matter of fact, why are white people deploying some of that "science" to kill 2 white babies for each live birth in places like white Russia?

    How come white people with their "pragmatic based ideology" have been so good at killing other white people- as in the tens of millions in Stalin's Holodomor and the multiple millions in Hitler's Holocaust? And if as you say, white people done such good things for Africa, why have they done such bad things for and to themselves, back in Europe? How does this mystical "old white magic" explain these contradictions?

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  • @Corvinus
    "Companies (and other employers) are not allowed to hire whomever they prefer!"

    Try to keep up. I was responding rhetorically to Battle for Blair Mountain, who was complaining about the number of Asians being hired by companies. It is well within their liberty to procure employment from Asians, blacks, whites, Hispanics, or females. That is, unless one is a communist. Are you a communist?

    Moreover, unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

    No, I am not a communist; I am a former attorney, as well as a former manager for two different Fortune 500 companies. I just happen to know the law of the land, as legislated by the Congress, upheld by the courts, and administered by the executive branch, whereas you apparently do not.

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  • “Companies (and other employers) are not allowed to hire whomever they prefer!”

    Try to keep up. I was responding rhetorically to Battle for Blair Mountain, who was complaining about the number of Asians being hired by companies. It is well within their liberty to procure employment from Asians, blacks, whites, Hispanics, or females. That is, unless one is a communist. Are you a communist?

    Moreover, unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

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    No, I am not a communist; I am a former attorney, as well as a former manager for two different Fortune 500 companies. I just happen to know the law of the land, as legislated by the Congress, upheld by the courts, and administered by the executive branch, whereas you apparently do not.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    The White Liberal Greedy Cheating Mega-CEO Class(also forcing Social and Cultural Filth on American Society) gets two choices:1)Massive wealth confiscation...because it was stolen...and a one way ticket with family to a Sudanese slave market in the Sudan...or 2)rusty barbed-wire around the neck from street lights should they decide to stay in the America.

    I never liked the argument for slavery..which you basically made...and I still don't like it.

    Jared Taylor should have made American Renaissance into a Wall of Horror Stories from Native Born White American Victims of the Asian Scab Labor H1B and L1B Visa Program....if he was a serious Native Born White American Racial Patriot.....for there are thousands of horror stories in the Native Born White American Heartland about the extreme economic violence known as the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Program.
    , @Enrique Cardova
    Corvinius says:
    Moreover, unless it is definitively proven by an applicant that a business is overtly denying them an opportunity to be employed by a company, that company is able to hire whomever they prefer.

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    You are correct. Outside of openly sexist/racist/racialist employment denials, (which are illegal) companies can pretty much hire whom they want, and companies at present are too smart to openly post an ad saying "no blacks or women need apply." What dummy would do that these days? But even regarding laws governing discrimination however, whites have found ways to get around them, as bulging EEOC backlog files and court cases show. here are several techniques in play:

    White 'word of mouth. One method used by whites is selective advertising, or word of mouth only advertising of job openings. Cousin Carl passes the word of slots open down at city hall, or out on the plant floor. Only those of a whiter shade get the word. In the past this was more blatant- whites have gotten more sophisticated. Auto plants actually used to post guards to block job seekers, who couldn't enter unless they had SPECIFIC knowledge of, or were making application for a SPECIFIC job opening. Since most of these, except for the most menial slots, were by "the white word" the black candidates had nothing to go on, and were shown the door.


    'Plausible denial' farm out to third parties. EEOC files show whites using third parties like employment agencies to "white out" minority candidates. The agencies use "code words" when notifying employers or "coded" job applications to flag minority candidates for employers so they can be screened out. The code "ask for Maria" for example, means the job seeker is Hispanic. The employer can then kill the Mexican application or route it into the pool for menial only jobs. Note- that on the face of it, the employment agency is a neutral party in full legal compliance, but hidden "coding" gets the job done undercover.

    The white union card. This one is still used by unions in some ways though less blatantly in the past- the bottom line "white out" results however, are the same. To get access to the jobs locked up by the union, you need a union card. To get a union card you need to be nominated by an existing member of the union. Since the union is 95% white, who do you think are gonna get the requisite nominations, and cards? Note all the requirements are "neutral" on the face, but the actual results are, conveniently, white only. This is one of the reasons an exasperated Nixon Administration began its famous Philadelphia quota plan- ordering intransigent white unions benefiting from federal contracts to provide hard numerical proof that they had stopped discriminating.

    The token culluds. Another dodge is to hire a few black or minority tokens, which the employer can show case as proof of "equal opportunity." Once the tokens are in place however, its back to business as usual. The widely reported phenomenon of "tokenism in the 1970s and part of 1980s is part of this pattern. Tokenism has also been applied to make discrimination lawsuits go away. Hence many employers entered into so-called "consent agreements" as part of legal settlements in which they agreed to say, promote the next 5 women, in order to compensate these people who were there for years and never had a chance to move up because they were the wrong gender or race.

    Another benefit of this "go away tokenism" is that any negative fallout could be blamed on "government quotas" or "the culluds." Disgruntled white job seekers for example who resent the slots taken from the white only train can be fobbed off by blaming "quotas for the culluds." One can see this in the white urban legends or just so stories where people say "they know" or "heard of" so and so who didn't get the job because of "quotas." A final benefit of "go away tokenism" is that minority tokens are relatively small in number, and closure of lawsuits means that more embarrassing exposure into long-standing white cronyism, or deeper structural bias is avoided and goes unexamined.

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  • @Corvinus
    “raise consciousness among the larger Native Born White American Population about the very serious threat that Asians in America pose…”

    Didn’t John marry himself an Asian? Isn’t therefore John’s wife a “threat”? Isn’t John a race traitor?


    “These are exactly the type-kind of Native Born White American…”

    Please define “Native Born White American”. Thanks.


    “What Asians in America are doing is most definitely in the realm of Genocide…”

    Do individuals have the liberty under the Constitution do associate with whomever they please? By extension, companies are merely hiring people they prefer. How are their actions genocide?
As if you even know what the term means…


    "over the past several years only to be obliterated and demolished by many of Steve Sailer’s commenters."

    Yeah, right.

    Companies (and other employers) are not allowed to hire whomever they prefer! Where have you been living, the past half-century?!?

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  • “raise consciousness among the larger Native Born White American Population about the very serious threat that Asians in America pose…”

    Didn’t John marry himself an Asian? Isn’t therefore John’s wife a “threat”? Isn’t John a race traitor?

    “These are exactly the type-kind of Native Born White American…”

    Please define “Native Born White American”. Thanks.

    “What Asians in America are doing is most definitely in the realm of Genocide…”

    Do individuals have the liberty under the Constitution do associate with whomever they please? By extension, companies are merely hiring people they prefer. How are their actions genocide?
As if you even know what the term means…

    “over the past several years only to be obliterated and demolished by many of Steve Sailer’s commenters.”

    Yeah, right.

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    Companies (and other employers) are not allowed to hire whomever they prefer! Where have you been living, the past half-century?!?
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  • War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    I want to point out to John Derbyshire’s readers that the points made by Enrique Cordava were made by Cordova and other Asianphiles in Steve Sailer’s Blog over the past several years only to be obliterated and demolished by many of Steve Sailer’s commenters.

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    Several years ago on You Tube a young teenager Hindu..living in the US…. posted a video arguing that White Americans are absolutely dependent upon Hindus..legal immigrant variety and their US soil born geneline variety. Here is what happened:Hundreds and hundreds of very very nasty hatefull highly racialized comments ripping to shreds the lie of the indispensability of the Hindu in America. It was over-the-top nasty….so nasty that this Hindu teenager pulled the video off of You Tube. You can go google this story. These are of course the kind of Native Born White Americans that Jared Taylor should be mobilizing…which he can’t do with truck loads of Robert Plomim’s+Rushton’s research. I can give you several real world examples of why this strategy wont work.

    My own view of the IQ test score issue and race is this:it is being used to justify Native Born White American Race Replacement in the Tech and Medical Fields. As far as blacks go…we are in the home-break-in and gang rape White Wives and White Daughters era. Good luck quoting Plomin and Rushton to the Rev Sharpton inspired black yuts when you are tied-up-beaten-forced to watch the brutal gang rape of your White Wife and White Daughters. The Greedy Cheating White Class is not immune to being a victim of this kind of stuff…As one well -to-do White Family in Lloyd Neck experienced two decades ago when they were visited by black yuts from Hutington Station one night. The Lloyd Neck Police Chief was fired as a consequence.

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    BlairMountain says:
    These are of course the kind of Native Born White Americans that Jared Taylor should be mobilizing…which he can’t do with truck loads of Robert Plomim’s+Rushton’s research. I can give you several real world examples of why this strategy wont work.
    But the level of bile generated is only because of a dumb race-bait video supposedly by a "Hindu" who may simply have been a troll. Its like the alleged "black militants" who show up on assorted websites, spouting "militant" rhetoric, while setting up easy strawmen to be "refuted." Behind the "militant" persona is usually some lame white guy setting up strawmen. You're likely being played.

    Now you point out that Taylor won't get much traction with his Ruston research. Maybe, because its the horns of a dilemma. To get attention and contributions, Taylor has to keep the base pumped with "race-bait" research bashing or disparaging the blacks on the basis of IQ, as one of the primary talking points. This is a cornerstone, a foundation of Taylorism as indeed it is of HBD- the black enemy "Other" who functions the same as the Jews do for Nazism, and today's anti-Semites. Without this "enemy" for myriad "Two Minutes of Hate," Taylorism falls apart. So he is not gonna spend much time bashing Asian tech guys. There's no money or easy base priming benefit in it. Your white tech guys are essentially irrelevant to Taylor, except as part of the general "angry white guy" pool, who can be used in the black/brown-bashing format. Bottom line is- they have to fend for themselves.

    Keep in mind also that Taylor can do little for these guys anyway apart from some boilerplate rhetoric. After all, having put so many of his eggs in the IQ basket, he can't backtrack when the same IQ measures show that Asians post superior intelligence to whites based on IQ and other tests. Some white leaders have noticed the Asian advantage and have seen that good profits can be reaped thereby. Why pay a white guy $30 an hour in America, when an Asian with the same tech background and equivalent degree can be had for $10 per hour overseas or less, or if imported, maybe $20 per hour or less during that Visa period? Smart white business leaders have done the math.

    Also keep in mind that many smart whites are not going into these technical fields, when greater rewards can be reaped elsewhere. Look at all those white guys going to law school, or look at all the guys going into the FIRE industries (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate)? Why compete against hard-nosed Asians in a more demanding field, when the same or better money can be made elsewhere?


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    My own view of the IQ test score issue and race is this:it is being used to justify Native Born White American Race Replacement in the Tech and Medical Fields.
    This replacement is inevitable due to superior Asian intelligence based on the tests. Since many HBD leaders worship IQ they realize that this is the logical end result. White people simply have to specialize elsewhere. But also keep in mind that there is a second irony. Higher IQ whites, on the average, overall, trend more liberal, more homosexual and are not reproducing themselves. So the IQ worshipers are caught in a cruel, second dilemma. Their IQ gods are delivering people with more liberalism, more low fertility, and more instability as the supposedly better folk embrace things like gay marriage and other destructive trends to traditional family arrangements. Their gods must be laughing.


    .As far as blacks go…we are in the home-break-in and gang rape White Wives and White Daughters era. Good luck quoting Plomin and Rushton to the Rev Sharpton inspired black yuts
    See you have proven my point. One third of your post is bashing the enemy blacks. This is the essence of "HBD" and Taylorism. This is the foundation. Your white tech losers are simply a minor sideline, unless they can be brought into this bashing format. Oh sure, Taylor talks about Asians negatively sometimes- but its light boilerplate compared to the main black-bashing project. This is why your hopes of turning the spotlight on Asian competition are doomed.

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  • War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    The fact that you think Native Born White American Tech Workers have not been harmed by Asian scab workers counts for this much:0. For it is the experiences of Native Born White American Tech Workers in the Labor Market that are the only data points that matter…this is how the issue will be decided and resolved.

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    Asians are imported tech scab workers who are in a position to accelerate the process of race-replacement in the tech and medical field by 1)voting to import more of their own racial kind that allows them to colonize the tech and medical labor markets up to the point of determining who gets hired and fired and 2)to be put themselves in mentoring positions such as Academia. This is how thousands of years of Native Born White American engineering-tech-medical experience gets exterminatead-wiped post-passage of The 1965 Immigration Reform act.

    Look…you are a liar and you hate Native Born White American Labor-in addition to being an obvious Asianphile. Asians were not bought in because Native Born White America couldn’t produce its own Engineers…Programmers…Medical Professional.The White Greedy Cheating Class brought them in for one reason:massive wage suppression and the corresponding massive wealth transfer from Native Born White American Workers to the White Greedy Cheating Mega CEO Class…Alan Greenpan’s friends.

    Since you have not given Native Born White American Tech Workers any reasons why they should tolerate their systematic elimination from the Tech and Medical Workforce(Union busting North Shore University Hospital is importing right-off-the-boat Chinese Nurses in its hospital system).

    Larger point:there is no economic case for race-replacing The Historic Native Born White American Majority…and the fact that you think there is counts for this much:0..For surely you are not even gonna be close to being the final word on this issue. When a full-blown highly racialized revolt occurs against the open and deliberate policy of race-replacing The Historic Native Born White American Majority across the US…just what are you gonna do about it?

    The race-replacement enthusiasts have been read the riot act!!

    I should also point out that Asian Legal Immigrants also have very nasty ecological consequences such as destabilizing the State of Virginia’s Riparian Ecosystems when they introduced pregnant Asian Snakehead Fish into the Potomac River over ten years ago.

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  • Blair says:
    Asians in the US are actively involved in the destruction of thousands of years of Native Born White American collective-acquired Engineering-Technological-Medical Experience. Putting a laser beam focus on Asian aggression against the Historic Native Born White American Population is exactly what Jared Taylor is suppose to do!!!. Once this experience is lost..it is lost forever. What Asians in America are doing is most definitely in the realm of Genocide…
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    Over-exaggerated and inaccurate. Asians aren’t responsible for “destruction of thousands of years of Native Born White American collective-acquired Engineering-Technological-Medical Experience.” For one thing, Asians are the ones who provided key technologies of the Industrial age to white people- things like gunpowder, the compass and paper, transmitted directly or thru Aran middlemen, as credible scholars like Joseph Needham show (Needam- Science and Civilization in China). And in the modern era, Asians like Japanese are the ones who have provided much advanced techniques, and if it were not for Asians American engineering an computer tech would be in poorer shape.

    There are thousands of Native Born White American victims of the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Asian scab labor programs across the US. And I can assure you that these folks are in a rage state about the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Asian Scab Labor Programs. These are exactly the type-kind of Native Born White Americans that Jared Taylor should be mobilizing.
    White America would not need the Asian engineers and computer sci and medical sci imports if it had its educational house in order, but corrupt white unions are the ones who for the most part control white education, and have delivered mediocre results. White people have no one to blame but themselves. Jared Taylor knows this which is why he can’t get much traction behind any “anti-Asian” movement. White people need the Asians, and besides powerful deep-pocketed corporate interests who support Republicans also want the Asians. So Taylor isn’t going to bite the deep-pocket hands that feed him contributions. Taylor’s only hope is to race bait against “the culluds”, but even that is showing diminishing returns.

    Think about it. Liberals would not keep getting elected unless they created value for white people. They have. By using various “soft” measures, they have essentially corralled off the minorities into segregated venues- socially and spatially, and have relegated them to the lower-end of the economic ladder. White liberals for example support shrewd zoning laws, which sound “race neutral” on the face of it, but whose effect is to raise the cost of housing, and thus eliminate the culluds from certain neighborhoods and schools. Same with the token quotas of “affirmative action.” Conservative scholars like Thomas Sowell show that AA has had little impact as far as raising overall black income and education, which were on the upswing since the 1950s, long before any “quotas” in the 1970s. White liberals have used “quotas” to limit the number of slots available to better performing Asians, so whites can get them Why do you think liberals still hold on to quotas? They ain’t doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They know Asian competition will hit whites hard, so quotas are used to cap Asian numbers. And best of all, it can all be blamed on cullud scapegoats. Sweet!

    And on top of that, white women are the main beneficiaries of quotas, so the token cullud scapegoats not only garner the majority of the attention and resentment, but they can be eased out of those slots and white women take their place. And as an added bonus, all that that money supposedly being spent to “help the culluds” is actually placed in the pockets of whites, who talk piously bout “helping” the unfortunate, but are helping themselves. All that money pumped into education for example ends up in the pockets of entrenched white unions and union bosses. White people are not stupid. They keep voting liberal because they know that white liberals are creating value for white people. The culluds serve as window dressing for a variety of white agendas. You need to stop relying on “HBD” talking points and start analyzing the deep game being played.
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    and you can’t mobilize them into a full-blown revolt against a threat they already experienced first-hand from personal experience by lecturing them that-based upon IQ Test scores-that Asians in the US are smarter than they are.
    But higher IQ folk are more intelligent and productive. If lazy whites, or less intelligent low-end whites refuse to get the job done, white leaders have to go with a better class of volk. If that be Asians, so be it. Asians are more intelligent than white people. This is shown in terms of IQ scores, general test performance, and other data as detailed in the research of Professor JP Rushton.

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  • @Anonymous
    To say the least, pointing out that two Eastern European countries have per capita GDP's higher than Botswana and Gabon doesn't exactly prove your belief that B and G have a higher standard of living than EE.

    As you can easily check, I am providing data from Wikipedia.
    I personally do not have any beliefs about those 4 nations.
    Possibly you have confused me with “Stealth”.

    1. You are welcome not to trust the source.

    2. Myself, I do not make any conclusions from those data.
    You are welcome to make any conclusions.

    3. I learned form Wikipedia their meaning of (PPP) symbol:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity

    Purchasing Power Parity.
    I personally have no idea if it is a good criterion or not.
    But at least it is the same criterion for all 4 countries in question.

    Best to you.

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  • Solving the race problem, as defined by Jared, is pointless.

    The problem is not convincing the general public about racial differences.
    The general public is already convinced, while the elite who control the media also know the races have significant differences (they hide their true beliefs, and use the enforcers of political correctness to maintain their power and punish outsiders)

    But even if the media began to promote the same racial views as Jared, whites in America are a shrinking demographic. Embracing the racial views of Jared Taylor may result in more immigration from Asian, but would not result in white women having more children.

    The only true solution is saving the white race entails convincing the public to reject “feminism” and other leftists creeds which destroy the family.

    Feminism is the biggest reason America has less white people today than 20 years ago.

    while highlighting the differences between races, Jared Taylor and other race realists have failed to focus on the destructive path we have been driven to due to feminism…The general public is quite aware that blacks have lower IQs than whites….but without convincing white women to form families and raise their children the white race will continue to shrink

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    Travis says:
    Solving the race problem, as defined by Jared, is pointless. The problem is not convincing the general public about racial differences.

    Agreed, and there is an important flip side to what you say. While most whites would agree that there are racial differences, and that IQ tests and such make blacks appear less intelligent than whites, they distrust the oft sneering "HBD" flavor surrounding the whole issue, and distrust the HBD baiters, bashers and bigots often lurking just below the surface, including the anti-Semites, and the Anglophile types bashing other white ethnics like Italians.

    Most white Americans do not want to get into a draining round of "white supremacy" battles either, and would actually like to put numerous unsavory aspects of white supremacism such as Jim Crow and Nazism behind them. White people as even some black conservatives like Shelby Steele say, don't want their racial sins brought up. When they see "HBD" proponents virtually endorsing those unsavory aspects of the past, under an "IQ" banner, they are not enthusiastic to jump on the bandwagon, because they know there will be fierce pushback from the no longer quiescent culluds. More pushback means more exposure, and more attacks heaped against self-serving white myths of goodness and light.

    Here is the first central dilemma for the Taylorites. They can always draw a crowd by railing against the culluds, sneeringly playing up the "IQ card", but that same sneering, or barely veiled sneer approach is a turn off to many white Americans. Such a card plays well in the usual echo chambers and can always get some short term press. But in the long run people consider the implications and see that the Taylorites want to bring back a painful, at times shameful era- from reappeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, to the restoration of enforceable racial covenants in property ownership.

    Most whites for example do not want government telling Jews and blacks where they can or cannot live. Nor do they want smirking hotel operators turning away black families just trying to get a room for the night as they travel cross-country because they are "not white enough." Who needs to re-fight that crap? They do not want government agents barging into the bedrooms of interracial couples in the night hours (as happened with the landmark Loving case) in search of "interracial criminals." White America wants no part with that, and the subtle "IQ" insinuations of the HBD set which provide an unspoken "IQ justification" for this past, turns them off.

    In fact, this is one of the key vulnerabilities of Taylorism- the liberals will have a field day going after the veiled racialism or racism below the surface, and will exploit it to the hilt. Hence the insoluble dilemma- racism is necessary to mobilize the "HBD" base, but racism will provoke the fiercest pushback from the culluds, and the most damaging liberal counter-attacks.
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  • @Anon23
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovakia
    population 2013 estimate 5,415,949
    GDP (PPP) 2015 estimate
    - Per capita $28,888(43)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic
    Population - Sep 2014 estimate 10,538,275
    GDP (PPP)- Per capita $29,658(39th)

    Botswana
    GDP (PPP) 2014 estimate
    - Per capita $17,106

    Gabon
    GDP (PPP) 2014 estimate
    - Per capita $20,612

    To say the least, pointing out that two Eastern European countries have per capita GDP’s higher than Botswana and Gabon doesn’t exactly prove your belief that B and G have a higher standard of living than EE.

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    As you can easily check, I am providing data from Wikipedia.
    I personally do not have any beliefs about those 4 nations.
    Possibly you have confused me with "Stealth".

    1. You are welcome not to trust the source.

    2. Myself, I do not make any conclusions from those data.
    You are welcome to make any conclusions.

    3. I learned form Wikipedia their meaning of (PPP) symbol:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity
    Purchasing Power Parity.
    I personally have no idea if it is a good criterion or not.
    But at least it is the same criterion for all 4 countries in question.

    Best to you.

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  • War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Wrong click…my response was meant for Enrique Cardova…not fnn.

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  • War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:
    @fnn
    It looks like Botswana is run by De Beers, the diamond, manganese and copper mining company:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/business/worldbusiness/09nocera.html?em=&pagewanted=all&_r=0

    There is also no question, though, that Botswana was greatly aided by something else: De Beers’s own sense of — to use the current term of art — corporate social responsibility. Unlike most big companies that have exploited Africa’s resources over the course of its tragic history — indeed, unlike most Chinese companies operating in Africa today — De Beers did not simply plunder Botswana. Practically from the start, it entered into a 50-50 joint venture with the government; about a decade ago, it also sold the government a 15 percent stake in the company. (De Beers has only two other shareholders: the South African-based Oppenheimer family, which has controlled the company for over 100 years, and the publicly traded Anglo-American Corporation.)

    It has also built roads, hospitals and schools in Botswana; worked to help the country deal with H.I.V. and AIDS; and been involved in and paid for a hundred other things that have helped make Botswana an African success story.
     

    Very Far from Naive. I write from personal experience as a living-breathing Native Born White American who lives in the US. As a Native Born White American Racial Patriot, Jared Taylor has an enormous responsibility(tied to deep racial survival instincts) to raise consciousness among the larger Native Born White American Population about the very serious threat that Asians in America pose to The Historic Native Born White American Majority. Asians in the US are actively involved in the destruction of thousands of years of Native Born White American collective-acquired Engineering-Technological-Medical Experience. Putting a laser beam focus on Asian aggression against the Historic Native Born White American Population is exactly what Jared Taylor is suppose to do!!!. Once this experience is lost..it is lost forever. What Asians in America are doing is most definitely in the realm of Genocide…

    There are thousands of Native Born White American victims of the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Asian scab labor programs across the US. And I can assure you that these folks are in a rage state about the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Asian Scab Labor Programs. These are exactly the type-kind of Native Born White Americans that Jared Taylor should be mobilizing. These are the kind of Native Born White Americans that already get it…and you can’t mobilize them into a full-blown revolt against a threat they already experienced first-hand from personal experience by lecturing them that-based upon IQ Test scores-that Asians in the US are smarter than they are.

    Al Sharpton is far from washed-uped…he has visited the Kenyan Foriegner White House at least 60 times….And he is not going just for the White House Ice Cream Parlor. Sharpton is actively involved in formulating White House domestic policy against Whitey. Sharpton knows exactly what wave-length to send out to the feral black male yut underclass ..the one that corresponds to black-on-white-violence. Sharpton is far from washed-up.

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  • @Stealth
    Anything about Eastern Europe?

    Another fun tidbit you can look up on Wikipedia is Botswana's intentional homicide rate. Spoiler alert: it's a lot higher than that of any Eastern European country.

    Does a country with that large an AIDS problem sound good to you?

    If life there is more peaceful there than in other African countries, it's probably because everyone is so spread out.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovakia

    population 2013 estimate 5,415,949
    GDP (PPP) 2015 estimate
    – Per capita $28,888(43)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic

    Population – Sep 2014 estimate 10,538,275
    GDP (PPP)- Per capita $29,658(39th)

    Botswana
    GDP (PPP) 2014 estimate
    – Per capita $17,106

    Gabon
    GDP (PPP) 2014 estimate
    – Per capita $20,612

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    To say the least, pointing out that two Eastern European countries have per capita GDP's higher than Botswana and Gabon doesn't exactly prove your belief that B and G have a higher standard of living than EE.
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  • @International Jew
    I don't think Taylor's two conditions "solving" the "black problem" are either necessary or sufficient. I think we'd have no more problem to speak of, if we could do just one thing: enforce the laws in colorblind fashion. The moment blacks stop getting a pass for antisocial behavior -- from the trivial to the lethal -- we'll be close to where we want to be.

    Start with doing to Al Sharpton what they'd do to me if I blew off the IRS. Move on to prosecuting those perjurers from Ferguson. "Broken-windows" policing nationwide. Blacks were well-behaved last time we had that (ie pre-1960).

    International Jew says:
    I don’t think Taylor’s two conditions “solving” the “black problem” are either necessary or sufficient.
    But why not? Taylor has a clear game plan. (a) Flood the one with distorted “HBD” propaganda to promote white racial consciousness, and (b) work to implement measures to restore apartheid structures- from repealing the Civil Right Act of 1964, to bringing back restrictive covenants so as to purge white neighborhoods of the Jews and culluds, to implementation of a web of race conscious policies in employment and education- like white quotas. Taylor is to be commended for his realism. He is covering and obscuring these bottom lines in this approaches and appeals to different audiences, but anyone who has read his writings clearly understands his neo-apartheid vision.

    I think we’d have no more problem to speak of, if we could do just one thing: enforce the laws in colorblind fashion.
    Agreed. And this would include enforcing the laws in colorblind fashion so whites do not unfairly manipulate them to benefit their own color- as they have done during US history and continue to do. Lets be real about it like Taylor.

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    The moment blacks stop getting a pass for antisocial behavior — from the trivial to the lethal — we’ll be close to where we want to be.
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    Rather dubious. Blacks are not getting any pass for anti-social behavior, To the contrary. Whites have implemented plenty of suppressive measures to against any such pass, such as race profiling “stop and frisk,” “stop and seizure” as was popular in the 1990s with “suspected drug money” being taken from motorists, to differential law enforcement where certain drugs are concerned, and many other things. You are naively misinformed. Blacks aren’t getting any special “pass.” The reality on the ground is completely different from what you claim.
    See for example:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2014/03/12/cops-use-traffic-stops-to-seize-millions-from-drivers-never-charged-with-a-crime/

    or
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    An Orlando Sentinel investigation of more than 1,000 traffic stops made by Vogel’s drug interstate squad showed minority drivers were stopped much more frequently than white drivers, although far more whites traveled on I-95. And the stops often ended with money seized even though no criminal charges were filed. A Hispanic man and a black woman, whose cash was taken by Volusia deputies in separate stops and who were never charged with crimes, challenged Vogel in court.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1996-03-10/news/9603090744_1_seizing-volusia-vogel

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    ^^Perhaps white America can apply some of that “colorblindness” you were talking about aye?

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    Start with doing to Al Sharpton what they’d do to me if I blew off the IRS. Move on to prosecuting those perjurers from Ferguson. “Broken-windows” policing nationwide. Blacks were well-behaved last time we had that (ie pre-1960).
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    Al Sharpton is washed up hack, useful for political mobilization by those who indulge him. He is nothing special. White banksters have gotten numerous passes and very little jail time for the devastation they wrought to ordinary WHITE Americans, not to mention the many passes given white political lobbyists all the time.

    But even more interesting, you are contradicting your own statement. Up above you talk about this “free pass” blacks keep getting. But now you say “broken windows” forced nice behavior from blacks. If “broken windows” is doing so well in suppressing bad black behavior, how would blacks be getting the mystical “free pass” you talk about? Which is it?

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  • @Anon23
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabon
    population is estimated at 1.5 million people;
    Low population density, abundant petroleum, and foreign private investment ... .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana
    A mid-sized country of just over two million people, Botswana is one of the most sparsely populated nations in the world. ... . Botswana's impressive economic record has been built on a foundation of diamond mining, prudent fiscal policies, international financial and technical assistance, and a cautious foreign policy.
    Despite its political stability and relative socioeconomic prosperity, the country is among the hardest hit by the HIV/AIDS epidemic, with around a quarter of the population estimated to be infected.

    It looks like Botswana is run by De Beers, the diamond, manganese and copper mining company:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/business/worldbusiness/09nocera.html?em=&pagewanted=all&_r=0

    There is also no question, though, that Botswana was greatly aided by something else: De Beers’s own sense of — to use the current term of art — corporate social responsibility. Unlike most big companies that have exploited Africa’s resources over the course of its tragic history — indeed, unlike most Chinese companies operating in Africa today — De Beers did not simply plunder Botswana. Practically from the start, it entered into a 50-50 joint venture with the government; about a decade ago, it also sold the government a 15 percent stake in the company. (De Beers has only two other shareholders: the South African-based Oppenheimer family, which has controlled the company for over 100 years, and the publicly traded Anglo-American Corporation.)

    It has also built roads, hospitals and schools in Botswana; worked to help the country deal with H.I.V. and AIDS; and been involved in and paid for a hundred other things that have helped make Botswana an African success story.

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    Very Far from Naive. I write from personal experience as a living-breathing Native Born White American who lives in the US. As a Native Born White American Racial Patriot, Jared Taylor has an enormous responsibility(tied to deep racial survival instincts) to raise consciousness among the larger Native Born White American Population about the very serious threat that Asians in America pose to The Historic Native Born White American Majority. Asians in the US are actively involved in the destruction of thousands of years of Native Born White American collective-acquired Engineering-Technological-Medical Experience. Putting a laser beam focus on Asian aggression against the Historic Native Born White American Population is exactly what Jared Taylor is suppose to do!!!. Once this experience is lost..it is lost forever. What Asians in America are doing is most definitely in the realm of Genocide...

    There are thousands of Native Born White American victims of the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Asian scab labor programs across the US. And I can assure you that these folks are in a rage state about the H1B Visa and L1B Visa Asian Scab Labor Programs. These are exactly the type-kind of Native Born White Americans that Jared Taylor should be mobilizing. These are the kind of Native Born White Americans that already get it...and you can't mobilize them into a full-blown revolt against a threat they already experienced first-hand from personal experience by lecturing them that-based upon IQ Test scores-that Asians in the US are smarter than they are.

    Al Sharpton is far from washed-uped...he has visited the Kenyan Foriegner White House at least 60 times....And he is not going just for the White House Ice Cream Parlor. Sharpton is actively involved in formulating White House domestic policy against Whitey. Sharpton knows exactly what wave-length to send out to the feral black male yut underclass ..the one that corresponds to black-on-white-violence. Sharpton is far from washed-up.
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  • Ronald West says:
    Derbyshire’s answer? Probably exclusive gay communities to get the homosexuals ‘out of sight, out of mind’ (surrounded by barbed wire)

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    ^This is a bit over the top, Derbyshire suggests no such thing. Try to address his points specifically.

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    Blair Mountain says:
    The great failure of Jared Taylor and American Renaissance is that Taylor and his organization should have put a laser beam focus-unrelentingly-on the H1B…L1 B Asian scab labor program to the exclusion of IQ Test score psychometric jibber jabber.
    This is naive. Taylor can’t get much traction railing against Indian engineers. “The white faithful” will always get pumped up though if its “the culluds” that are the subject.

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    Derbyshire says:
    “Solve the race problem,” Jared told us, was defined to mean, for the purposes of the debate, (a) attain general public recognition of race differences in intelligence and temperament, and (b) bring about the repeal of enough anti-discrimination laws to restore true freedom of association.
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    Jared Taylor is to be commended for laying it out there. The more the better. Black Muslim activist Malcolm X said he preferred to deal with an honest racist than a hypocritical liberal- at least he knew what he had to contend with up front. Kudos to Taylor for “keeping it real.”

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    For the purposes of this debate, a solution will consist of, first, attaining general public recognition of race differences in intelligence and temperament,
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    Translation- fool the public with misleading and distorted claims about “race”, and flood the zone with associated propaganda.

    .
    and second, the repeal of enough anti-discrimination laws to restore true freedom of association, so that explicitly white-and explicitly black, explicitly Asian, explicitly Comanche, explicitly anything-groups and communities can be formed.
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    Translation: Similar to the call by convicted felon Dinesh D’souza in his 1996 book “The End of Racism”, who calls for a reappeal the Civil Rights act of 1964. Lets go ahead and reappeal that, and then enforce restrictive covenants in housing against Jews and blacks, such as that struck down in US vs Lake Lucerne which specifically included “Jew undesirables” among its targets. With the Jews and cullud purged form lily white neighborhoods, let’s re-authorize Jim Crow segregation in schools and other public facilities. Just don’t state these real objective too openly. Conceal and obfuscate with “coded” language that allows “plausible denial.”

    .
    Homosexual marriage didn’t go from being a joke to being conventional wisdom because politicians willed it so. The politicians tagged along behind media and show business elites, who in turn were capitalizing on changes of sensibility in the broad upper-middle classes.
    ——–
    Actually if the white upper middle classes willed homosexual marriage into being, they are the trendsetters for where white America is headed, both morally and practically. But today, most whites who support homosexual marriage are not from the upper classes. The latest pols show that 55 percent of white Americans support homosexual marriage- among these 62% white non evangelicals. But even white Catholics are 50-52 percent. Presumably as these percentages grow, white people will have to find some other mechanisms to reproduce themselves. And interestingly enough, support for homosexual marriage is greatest among higher IQ whites. Ironic fallout for those who tout IQ as their racial god. Touted IQ nirvanas of the future will yield increasingly bitter white fruit.

    .
    A century and a half later, Regency dissipation gave way to Victorian primness.
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    Actually during the Victorian age, LIBERALISM INCREASED – from the actual implementation of the abolition of slavery, to a greater emphasis on individualism, to expansion of the democratic franchise, Irish liberalization, expansion of public schooling, and several other social reforms. On the science front, atheism and skepticism advanced. And curiously, one of the key figures of the era was a Jew, one Benjamin Disraeli. In short the Victorian era was hardly a period of vast rollbacks to conservatism and reaction. Likewise hoped for “racial rollbacks” down the road are doomed to failure. The landscape has changed. The “culluds” no long sit quiescent

    .
    The nation has twice voted for Barack Obama as President: an affirmative-action hire
    Dubious. As credible analyses show, Obama did not get any special extra white votes due to “affirmative action” or reputed “white guilt.” These laughable talking points have long since been debunked, though they do well in certain echo chambers. Obama got about the same average number of white votes as other recent white Democrat presidential candidates- Obama 43%, Clinton 44%. Jimmy Carter 48%. White people did not need to vote for “guilt” or because “i would be nice to have a black president.” Give them more credit than that. They (a) were tired of Bush and his war, (b) did not want Clinton cronyism back, (c) wanted the liberal gravy train from which they benefited to keep rolling, and (d) were unconvinced enough by the weak Republican alternative- which in 2008 included that brilliant intellect Sarah Palin, herself an “affirmative action” pick to apply the same reasoning. So much for “white guilt.”

    .
    Race realism may come to an acceptance by a reverse process: the Old World redressing the balance of the New.
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    The “Old World” will not redress any balance, for its own decadence and corruption has ensured that:
    (a) it is not reproducing itself fast enough, (b) it will continue to turn its back on traditional mores in favor of travesties like “gay” marriage, (c) it will continue to kill its future white stocks with high rates of abortion, (d) its own desire for material gain and comfort will cause it to continue to import significant amounts of immigrants to work low end economic slots and also help cover bloated social security payments, and (e) much touted increases in IQ, mean that ironically, these same higher IQ folk will CONTINUE to support the above- in short a perfect spiral down. People with higher IQs by the way are trending more liberal, more homosexual, and with less fertility to replace the whole. No “Old World” panacea will reverse these trends.

    .Recently, however, the mass immigration of anti-Semitic Muslims into European countries has convinced many European Jews that multiculturalism may have reached the point of diminishing returns—may no longer be “Good for the Jews.” American Jewry is some way behind here, but a couple more Charlie Hebdo-style Islamist atrocities may swing them round.
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    The weakness of this notion is the fact that “multicuturalism” can still be good for Jews even with increased anti-Jewish Muslim presence. For one thing, Jews have discovered in America that “multiculturalism” can be used to limit gains by more intelligent and productive Asians- such as the “informal quota” limits of universities that reserve only so many slots for Asians even though many outperform white students. Less Asian slots means more Jewish slots. See some background on this from Ron Unz’s several analyses. Furthermore “multiculturalism” allows a good bit of blame to be shifted to the culluds when the game is exposed. White liberals have already figured this out.

    In addition, “multiculturalism” can still work hand in hand with Muslim suppression. France has pioneered the approach. Multi-culti’s disparaging of religion for example can keep the Muslims in check- via suppression of religious expression, or job and school quotas favoring whites in the alleged interest of “multicultural balance” or, er, “diversity.” In France the Muslims have basically been corralled into segregated venues, both social, spatial and economic, all under a seemingly pro-liberal regime. Who needs Le Pen when liberalism has accomplished the same bottom lines?
    And as for Jews getting tired of “multiculturalism” – sure, SOME might, but others to the contrary will embrace multi-culti even more, in response to the attacks of “HBDers” and assorted anti-Semites. What better way to push back against “HBD” attacks that counter-attacking via a noble-sounding multi-cultural perspective, that contrasts tolerance and equality against snarling, sneering race-baiting HBD? Who says American Jews till “cross over” anytime soon? Why would they give up one of the most effective weapons in the arsenal for pushing back against their enemies?

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    Next up: Designer babies by embryo selection. We can already do some of this. As we get better acquainted with the genome, we shall be able to do much more.
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    lol, if this is a panacea it will fail dismally. “Designer” embyro selection will likely be most accessible to the more affluent white, who, apart for using it to “distance” themselves from their lower-end white brethren, will apply it to the IQ side of the equation, which will STILL bring about the pattern of higher IQ Volk: low fertility, less regard for traditional mores- like boosters of “transgender” and “gay” unions and more liberalism. Charles Murray in his Coming Apart touted a higher cognitive future via new genetic tech but ironically, this shiny white future will recycle the same old corruption and decadence.

    .
    Can the Standard Social Science Model, with its insistence that race is a social construct, survive when fine points of genomic difference are everyday topics of conversation?
    Actually it has survived quite well- indeed thrived. In fact, the new geonomic advances have gone far in debunking some cherished “HBD” race notions. Such advances for example have indicated that modern Europeans are heavily a product mix with advanced subtropical “Middle Eastern” populations- from when sprang those pesky Jews. Oh and depending on the era and area studied, those same advanced populations contained certain “Sub-Saharan” elements.

    The same tech now tells us that the so-called “cognitive” revolutions of HBD evolutionary lore, did not begin in Europe but in Africa, and that much touted white skin color is a rather recent phenomenon (Jablonski 2000, 2004). And indeed, the work of one prominent conservative genome scientist- an informal believer in “race,” actually helps further deconstruct cherished race categories. His data showed that Europeans were not a primary race at all but actually a hybrid population, or to use the proper HBD term “race”- one third African, two-thirds Asian. (Cavalli-Sforza 1997, 2001). Don’t worry though. It will get better.

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  • @Anon23
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabon
    population is estimated at 1.5 million people;
    Low population density, abundant petroleum, and foreign private investment ... .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana
    A mid-sized country of just over two million people, Botswana is one of the most sparsely populated nations in the world. ... . Botswana's impressive economic record has been built on a foundation of diamond mining, prudent fiscal policies, international financial and technical assistance, and a cautious foreign policy.
    Despite its political stability and relative socioeconomic prosperity, the country is among the hardest hit by the HIV/AIDS epidemic, with around a quarter of the population estimated to be infected.

    Anything about Eastern Europe?

    Another fun tidbit you can look up on Wikipedia is Botswana’s intentional homicide rate. Spoiler alert: it’s a lot higher than that of any Eastern European country.

    Does a country with that large an AIDS problem sound good to you?

    If life there is more peaceful there than in other African countries, it’s probably because everyone is so spread out.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovakia
    population 2013 estimate 5,415,949
    GDP (PPP) 2015 estimate
    - Per capita $28,888(43)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic
    Population - Sep 2014 estimate 10,538,275
    GDP (PPP)- Per capita $29,658(39th)

    Botswana
    GDP (PPP) 2014 estimate
    - Per capita $17,106

    Gabon
    GDP (PPP) 2014 estimate
    - Per capita $20,612

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  • @International Jew
    I don't think Taylor's two conditions "solving" the "black problem" are either necessary or sufficient. I think we'd have no more problem to speak of, if we could do just one thing: enforce the laws in colorblind fashion. The moment blacks stop getting a pass for antisocial behavior -- from the trivial to the lethal -- we'll be close to where we want to be.

    Start with doing to Al Sharpton what they'd do to me if I blew off the IRS. Move on to prosecuting those perjurers from Ferguson. "Broken-windows" policing nationwide. Blacks were well-behaved last time we had that (ie pre-1960).

    Sure they were! Here is what “Time” was saying, on behalf of the forward-thinking Establishment, at the height of American Civilization, back when I was barely eighteen months old, and growing up in Gary, Indiana (“The City of the Century”), along with my parents and eight siblings:

    http://www.amren.com/news/2008/06/the_negro_crime/

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  • @Stealth

    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world...
     
    Nice try. I hope all the best for Botswana and Gabon, but presuming your statement is accurate, their economic growth needs to be put into perspective. It's kind of like a very low-ranked student who wins the award for most improvement. Said student is not the equal to the valedictorian and probably never will be.

    , not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?
     
    Got a source for that claim? I don't believe it for a second. Tell you what, though; both Botswana and a whole swath of Eastern Europe can be viewed on the ground level, using Google Maps. Take a little "drive" through both and tell me which one you'd rather relocate to if you had to move to either.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabon

    population is estimated at 1.5 million people;
    Low population density, abundant petroleum, and foreign private investment … .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana

    A mid-sized country of just over two million people, Botswana is one of the most sparsely populated nations in the world. … . Botswana’s impressive economic record has been built on a foundation of diamond mining, prudent fiscal policies, international financial and technical assistance, and a cautious foreign policy.
    Despite its political stability and relative socioeconomic prosperity, the country is among the hardest hit by the HIV/AIDS epidemic, with around a quarter of the population estimated to be infected.

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    Anything about Eastern Europe?

    Another fun tidbit you can look up on Wikipedia is Botswana's intentional homicide rate. Spoiler alert: it's a lot higher than that of any Eastern European country.

    Does a country with that large an AIDS problem sound good to you?

    If life there is more peaceful there than in other African countries, it's probably because everyone is so spread out.

    , @fnn
    It looks like Botswana is run by De Beers, the diamond, manganese and copper mining company:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/business/worldbusiness/09nocera.html?em=&pagewanted=all&_r=0

    There is also no question, though, that Botswana was greatly aided by something else: De Beers’s own sense of — to use the current term of art — corporate social responsibility. Unlike most big companies that have exploited Africa’s resources over the course of its tragic history — indeed, unlike most Chinese companies operating in Africa today — De Beers did not simply plunder Botswana. Practically from the start, it entered into a 50-50 joint venture with the government; about a decade ago, it also sold the government a 15 percent stake in the company. (De Beers has only two other shareholders: the South African-based Oppenheimer family, which has controlled the company for over 100 years, and the publicly traded Anglo-American Corporation.)

    It has also built roads, hospitals and schools in Botswana; worked to help the country deal with H.I.V. and AIDS; and been involved in and paid for a hundred other things that have helped make Botswana an African success story.
     
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  • Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world…

    Nice try. I hope all the best for Botswana and Gabon, but presuming your statement is accurate, their economic growth needs to be put into perspective. It’s kind of like a very low-ranked student who wins the award for most improvement. Said student is not the equal to the valedictorian and probably never will be.

    , not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?

    Got a source for that claim? I don’t believe it for a second. Tell you what, though; both Botswana and a whole swath of Eastern Europe can be viewed on the ground level, using Google Maps. Take a little “drive” through both and tell me which one you’d rather relocate to if you had to move to either.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabon
    population is estimated at 1.5 million people;
    Low population density, abundant petroleum, and foreign private investment ... .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana
    A mid-sized country of just over two million people, Botswana is one of the most sparsely populated nations in the world. ... . Botswana's impressive economic record has been built on a foundation of diamond mining, prudent fiscal policies, international financial and technical assistance, and a cautious foreign policy.
    Despite its political stability and relative socioeconomic prosperity, the country is among the hardest hit by the HIV/AIDS epidemic, with around a quarter of the population estimated to be infected.
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  • @Wally
    Right, black Africa has done a bang up job in promoting equal rights for homosexuals.

    And whites are so incredibly horrific that blacks, browns, & yellows are begging for entry into the countries where whites are a majority.

    I suggest that Ronald West review the status of every geographical entity where blacks run the government, every geographical entity where blacks are a majority. Not a pretty picture.

    Of course, everyone knows about the incredible black work ethic.

    Right, black Africa has done a bang up job in promoting equal rights for homosexuals.

    Actually, given the analogy of the stopped clock being right twice per day, you’re correct that gay rights are in terrible shape in Africa. Where you’re wrong is ascribing that (apparently) to the race of the people that live there. Actually, there are two big factors in anti-gay discrimation in Africa. The first is Islam; the second is colonialism. None of the non-Muslim countries in sub-Saharan Africa had cultural biases against homosexuality before colonialism. The anti-gay legislation was introduced almost entirely under colonialism by Europeans. Since the end of colonialism, the major factor driving radical anti-gay agendas has actually been American fundamentalist Christianity.

    I suggest that Ronald West review the status of every geographical entity where blacks run the government, every geographical entity where blacks are a majority. Not a pretty picture.

    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?

    Of course, everyone knows about the incredible black work ethic.

    It’s almost like they have cushy library jobs at which they spend all day online moderating anti-Semitic Internet forums. The nerve!

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    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?
     
    It must have been taxing to take a break from your "peaceful demonstrating" in Baltimore to write this comment, but the absurdity of it was very entertaining and inspiring. I decided to do a google image search for the majestic and modern Botswana and found some sterling examples of its wealth and modernity. Consider for example the Botswanan businessmen on their way to a technology launch review meeting with their white manservant:

    http://www.intrepidtravel.com/sites/default/files/elements/product/hero/botswana_maun_tall_12.jpg

    Or these future nuclear physicists taking a brief respite from their studies:

    http://www.heybrian.com/lib/images/travels/botswana/botswana_kids.jpg

    Oh heck. You can work that Google thingy yourself right? Use that to find the World Bank stats on Botswana and see the per capita income is $7,700 and life expectancy is 47yrs. According to the CIA, Botswana's economy is diamond mining and tourism. So white folk paying for sparkly trinkets and white folks visiting to see lions and elephants. It also has one of the world's highest AIDS infection rates at 21.86%. Now the CIA isn't saying, but there is a common AIDS cure in Botswana and that is raping infants - perhaps this is part of the nation's very high infant mortality rate?

    I could keep going with this, but I've now become depressed. The amount of misery Africa inflicts on itself, not to mention the misery it exports into white countries, is incomprehensible to my apparently "racist" mind. Every time I read about Africa or watch video shot in Africa or just visit an African colony like Detroit, I feel like Marlow in Conrad's Heart of Darkness. The only thing that has changed is that white misguided beneficence has caused a population explosion destined to create more misery than this world has ever before seen.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Actually, there are two big factors in anti-gay discrimation in Africa. The first is Islam…
     
    …in the wake of which much pederasty follows…

    …the second is colonialism.…
     
    … in the wake of which much pederasty follows.

    "Anti-gay discrimation" seems like a reasonable reaction to the invasion of foreign perverts.

    Admit it: Africans have agency, and they're right about this, and modern "progressive" whites are wrong. Very wrong.

    And damned supremacist about it, too.
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  • @Wally
    Right, black Africa has done a bang up job in promoting equal rights for homosexuals.

    And whites are so incredibly horrific that blacks, browns, & yellows are begging for entry into the countries where whites are a majority.

    I suggest that Ronald West review the status of every geographical entity where blacks run the government, every geographical entity where blacks are a majority. Not a pretty picture.

    Of course, everyone knows about the incredible black work ethic.

    He does have some good points, such as, for instance, that white people have been a (shall we say) mixed blessing for the world. It doesn’t matter, though. His response is filled with the kinds of things liberals say when they want to shut down a discussion. They don’t want to talk about it, and they don’t want you to, either.

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    He does have some good points, such as, for instance, that white people have been a (shall we say) mixed blessing for the world.
     
    Sure, if by "mixed blessing" you mean utterly non-pragmatic religious zealot driven foolishness. Whites found the negro in a Malthusian state of natural balance. Their lives were violent and short, always on the precipice of demise from violence, pestilence, or famine. Whites stopped their tribal warfare, cured their diseases, and fed them so that now their population is absurdly beyond their ability to feed themselves guaranteeing a massive burden on whites or famine of unprecedented scale. At the same time, whites have brought millions upon millions of these negroes into white homelands where they behave exactly as they have always behaved with chaos and violence imposing untold social costs on white societies. Wash, rinse, and repeat for Central American aborigines and other primitive peoples from other climes such as the desert dwellers of South Asia and North Africa.

    All this has been done in the name of Christian Universalism. We send missionaries out to preach the Gospel and convert the "savages" first. Then we give them the goodies of white invention like medicines, law & order, and food followed by automobiles, trains, and technology. Capitalists follow the missionaries and dig up some raw materials to be sure, but it's a classic case of capitalists socializing costs - those raw materials could well be obtained without any white do-gooder meddling and only minimal disruption of native people and societies. We don't need to build roads and hospitals and schools in Africa to obtain germanium.

    And make no mistake the transfer of wealth has been absolutely staggering. Trillions upon untold trillions of white dollars have been expended trying essentially to make donkeys into thoroughbred horses with exactly predictable results. And all because whites refuse to abandon an ideology that was written thousands of years ago when the world's primitive peoples were yet undiscovered. Whites the world over continue today forking over 10% of their labor on top of the 30-70% taken by force by their governments to extend this "missionary" do-gooder meddling because a character in a story book says "all men are the same" and "everyone can be saved."

    The costs inflicted on white people by these old story books through the two millennia are truly incalculable. If a scientific and pragmatic based ideology isn't adopted soon, whites will be simply swallowed up and subsumed by the demographic tidal wave they've created by eliminating the Malthusian population controls on immensely more fecund primitive peoples and the world will be plunged into a new Dark Age or an age where the pragmatic East Asian rules for millennia to come.
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  • Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Homosexual marriage didn’t go from being a joke to being conventional wisdom because politicians willed it so. The politicians tagged along behind media and show business elites, who in turn were capitalizing on changes of sensibility in the broad upper-middle classes
     
    Riiight... probably because the conservatives had lost the 'right' of repression of what amounts to ingrained cultural phenomena:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/16/raphaels-paradox/

    Derbyshire's answer? Probably exclusive gay communities to get the homosexuals 'out of sight, out of mind' (surrounded by barbed wire)

    Regency dissipation gave way to Victorian primness
     
    From in the closet to in the closet?

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/10/marquis-de-sade/

    Derbyshire doesn't make any sense at all .. except we point to the hypocrisy behind closed doors consistent in the European culture's behaviors

    Race realism may come to an acceptance by a reverse process: the Old World redressing the balance of the New
     
    Oh yeah, Franz Boas' big-brained White people' have done this world nothing but good at the top of the civilized food chain ..

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/22/junipero-serra/

    Shouldn't they be the ones confined to the apartheid of 'new world' reservations? Methinks YES!

    There has always, in any case, been a serious cognitive dissonance between the intense nationalism of Israel and the multicultural transnationalism of most American Jews
     
    No... in actuality:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/14/gods-chosen-a-dumb-idea/

    America's 'New Jews' .. 'clique' just fine with Israel's 'intense nationalism'

    Can the Standard Social Science Model, with its insistence that race is a social construct, survive when fine points of genomic difference are everyday topics of conversation?
     
    Actually, inter-racial mixing is the better solution; because no one will be interested in recreating a White race that is pointed to collective suicide

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/02/03/people-who-behave-as-stupid-as-they-look/

    The Japanese should stay focused on resurrecting the more intelligent woolly mammoths

    Two-party politics may be just a legacy from the industrial age. It’s not cast in stone. If the duopoly is broken, there is more political space for viewpoints out of the mainstream, and more general willingness to engage with them
     
    Just goes to show the most delusional people on earth can stumble onto the right thing to do

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/07/23/scooby-doo-on-lyndon-ladouche/

    ^ But of course the USA's 'alternative' selections are right up there with the nutters behind UKIP

    And just to pile insult on insult:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/10/09/liberals/

    ^ actually a reply to Derbyshire's multiculturalism point (worth a read)

    Right, black Africa has done a bang up job in promoting equal rights for homosexuals.

    And whites are so incredibly horrific that blacks, browns, & yellows are begging for entry into the countries where whites are a majority.

    I suggest that Ronald West review the status of every geographical entity where blacks run the government, every geographical entity where blacks are a majority. Not a pretty picture.

    Of course, everyone knows about the incredible black work ethic.

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    He does have some good points, such as, for instance, that white people have been a (shall we say) mixed blessing for the world. It doesn't matter, though. His response is filled with the kinds of things liberals say when they want to shut down a discussion. They don't want to talk about it, and they don't want you to, either.
    , @Andrew E. Mathis

    Right, black Africa has done a bang up job in promoting equal rights for homosexuals.
     
    Actually, given the analogy of the stopped clock being right twice per day, you're correct that gay rights are in terrible shape in Africa. Where you're wrong is ascribing that (apparently) to the race of the people that live there. Actually, there are two big factors in anti-gay discrimation in Africa. The first is Islam; the second is colonialism. None of the non-Muslim countries in sub-Saharan Africa had cultural biases against homosexuality before colonialism. The anti-gay legislation was introduced almost entirely under colonialism by Europeans. Since the end of colonialism, the major factor driving radical anti-gay agendas has actually been American fundamentalist Christianity.

    I suggest that Ronald West review the status of every geographical entity where blacks run the government, every geographical entity where blacks are a majority. Not a pretty picture.
     
    Now you can explain to us why Botswana and Gabon have among the highest rates of economic growth in the world, not to mention higher standards of living than most of Eastern Europe. Must be race, right?

    Of course, everyone knows about the incredible black work ethic.
     
    It's almost like they have cushy library jobs at which they spend all day online moderating anti-Semitic Internet forums. The nerve!
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  • “The politicians tagged along behind media and show business elites, who in turn were capitalizing on changes of sensibility in the broad upper-middle classes.”

    I’d say that chain of causality isn’t linked together quite right. Or it’s at least very much incomplete. Political activists aren’t mentioned in the equation, nor is the public education system.

    Political activists often can be politicians, and if they get murdered, like Harvey Milk, then all the better (even if – like Milk – their murder has little or nothing to do with their gayness.) More often, political activists work behind the scenes, often concentrating on policy changes that will allow for the indoctrination of children. Only the public ind0ctrination of children can change cultural views on faith, race and sexuality so much in such a short period of time. Complicit school systems have been the cornerstone for this rash of cultural change.

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  • @annamaria
    Thank you. This link is fantastic. Finally, a beautiful and highly intelligent woman has guts to call a spade a spade:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIi4a7ri-dc

    No problem; I find her quite charming myself.

    I just remembered that President Putin made a roughly 20min speech in German from that same podium back in 2001. It can be found at YouTube under the title: “Putin spricht Deutsch / Putin speaks German”. Interestingly a lot of the Germans say he speaks their language quite well but with a French accent.

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  • @Cagey Beast
    You make good points. From everything I can tell, looking at Europe from this side of the Atlantic, the continent is at the start of deep political upheaval. To add to all that, the "Euro-Atlantic consensus" of the EU. US and NATO seem to all be perfectly comfortable walking hand in hand into a war with Russia.

    The best way for people to get a sense of how weird and wobbly the European political base is getting is to read about France's Alain Soral. This article from November of 2013 is from a thoroughly respectable source and gives a surprisingly even-handed summary of the ideology of someone they must see as an opponent and potential threat:


    ‘Leftwing on labour but rightwing values’
    The online politics of Alain Soral
    Millions of French people, especially the young, read the website of Alain Soral and watch his monthly online talks, in which he thinks and argues his way through to a nationalist, sometimes socialist, always anti-Semitic, parallel politics.
    by Evelyne Pieiller

    Visitors to Alain Soral’s Egalité et Réconciliation (Equality and Reconciliation, E & R) website see pictures of Hugo Chávez, Che Guevara, Muammar Gaddafi, Patrice Lumumba, Thomas Sankara, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Fidel Castro and Vladimir Putin on the left of the masthead. Joan of Arc and Soral are on the right. The site, with its motto “leftwing on labour, but rightwing values”, is France’s 269th most popular, a few places behind the TV magazine Télérama.

    The juxtaposition of Guevara and Putin, of Chávez and rightwing values is a sign of the confused political times. The big questions are, who stands for what and what does it mean to be on the right or left?
    [...]
     

    http://mondediplo.com/2013/11/11rightwing

    Have a look too at the very East German Sahra Wagenknecht taking the Atlanticists to task over Ukraine:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIi4a7ri-dc

    Long story short, the liberal-libertine Atlantic consensus is in deep crisis and is gathering enemies on all sides. Everything has to end sometime, I guess.

    Thank you. This link is fantastic. Finally, a beautiful and highly intelligent woman has guts to call a spade a spade:

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    No problem; I find her quite charming myself.

    I just remembered that President Putin made a roughly 20min speech in German from that same podium back in 2001. It can be found at YouTube under the title: "Putin spricht Deutsch / Putin speaks German". Interestingly a lot of the Germans say he speaks their language quite well but with a French accent.
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  • The breakup of the so-called two party system(it’s really one party with two faces) isn’t going to happen, too many very wealthy and powerful people have invested a lot of time and money to make sure they have a lock on things through it. Not to mention it’s created a permanent political class in D.C. and surrounding areas that has benefited immensely from the two party duopoly.

    In short too many people have too much to lose to tolerate a break up into a multi-party system. It will be around until someone drops a nuke on soggy bottom.

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  • Just a few more thoughts on Soral, France and such things:

    1) Soral on the topic of condoms for Africa:

    Every time I hear – and it’s usually from the mouth of some lefty dumbass or vulgar f****t – the pope being denounced as being responsible for the AIDS epidemic in Africa, for not calling for the wearing of condoms, I can’t help but deplore this brutal refusal to see the other person’s point of view.

    Alain Soral, 2003 “The Pope: Mandatory Differences and Forbidden Differences”, Socrates at Saint Tropez

    2) Jean Raspail of Camp of the Saints was on a Desert Island Discs type of French radio program a few days ago and was asked about what the European governments can do about the current migration crisis in the Med: “nothing” was essentially his response. They then played one of his musical choices, “Je Ne Regrete Rien” by Edith Piaf and Raspail pointed out it was an anthem for the paratroopers when they were driven off in custody after their failed coup attempt in 1961. He then said that as a monarchist he’s always had time for lost causes. Republics and regimes come and go but France is eternal, in other words.

    3) People should do an image search using the phrase “manif pour tous” to see the massive crowds who turned out to protest against legalizing gay marriage, gay adoption and gay artificial insemination. They lost that fight but imagine how much of a deep schism that must leave. The Socialist government said essentially “this is not your country anymore”.

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  • @FWIW
    Europe won't tolerate it. Why? Because all good ideas are pushed too far. It is almost a law of history. It is the good ideas that prove to be the most damaging.

    Europe is the EU, NATO and the Eurozone.

    The mere fact that they are transnational European institutions that have different members is a clue. The EU has expanded beyond reason. Romania, Bulgaria, and now, the attempt to recruit Ukraine is a sign of its weakness, not its strength. But it is truly an ill wind that blows nobody any good. The Eastern Europeans got rolled over in WWII. Then brutalized by the USSR. And are in no mood to take any shit from the East or the West. Romania now has a Gypsy population of 3%. It's a problem, but very manageable. And everyone will state openly what they know. That they are uncivilized and impossible to assimilate. Or, "I hate Gypsies." Just a matter of fact. They won't be shy speaking up about Africans. Why would they? They were never a colonial power. They don't have America's history of slavery hanging over their head. No concentration camps. They aren't guilty, they are pissed off.

    And the Germans? Not so much. Their mere insistence that people follow the rules will make the country inhospitable to impoverished illegal immigrants. The Swiss? They had the good sense to avoid the UN, The EU, NATO, and the Euro. No one can immigrate to Switzerland.

    The Euro and NATO are examples of just how different Europe is from the United States. Alabama? They use the $US, our military would actually fight for them, we would never send in the IMF to reform them, etc. The Union was cemented with blood, and the citizens of Alabama want Federal Dollars for defense industries, universities, &c. The Fed, love it or hate it, calls the shots on the dollar. The ECB? They are about to lose Greece. The remainder of the PIIGS are barely hanging in.

    Even the Swedes are tired of their blonde women getting raped by immigrants. My hunch is that the first shot in this culture war will be fired by the Romanians. The rest will notice that no one stopped them. That they couldn't be shamed because they are had no choice but to be realists.

    The Eastern Europeans also want to work in the West. They won't just roll over and be bullied out of their menial jobs (by Western European standards). And the Scottish. They can talk a good game about the social welfare state, but they just aren't genetically able to give an inch. I don't see the Irish taking a lot of shit either.

    With EU immigration policies, citizens are free to move as they see fit. But the individual countries can also enforce laws as they wish. Once any country decides to deport illegals, they will get sent to the next one. It is one thing to let some immigrants trickle in. Entirely another to have their borders overrun by tougher and poorer countries enforcing their laws. It will be crystal clear that someone will be left holding the bag.

    Who knows. This is a possible scenario.

    You make good points. From everything I can tell, looking at Europe from this side of the Atlantic, the continent is at the start of deep political upheaval. To add to all that, the “Euro-Atlantic consensus” of the EU. US and NATO seem to all be perfectly comfortable walking hand in hand into a war with Russia.

    The best way for people to get a sense of how weird and wobbly the European political base is getting is to read about France’s Alain Soral. This article from November of 2013 is from a thoroughly respectable source and gives a surprisingly even-handed summary of the ideology of someone they must see as an opponent and potential threat:

    ‘Leftwing on labour but rightwing values’
    The online politics of Alain Soral
    Millions of French people, especially the young, read the website of Alain Soral and watch his monthly online talks, in which he thinks and argues his way through to a nationalist, sometimes socialist, always anti-Semitic, parallel politics.
    by Evelyne Pieiller

    Visitors to Alain Soral’s Egalité et Réconciliation (Equality and Reconciliation, E & R) website see pictures of Hugo Chávez, Che Guevara, Muammar Gaddafi, Patrice Lumumba, Thomas Sankara, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Fidel Castro and Vladimir Putin on the left of the masthead. Joan of Arc and Soral are on the right. The site, with its motto “leftwing on labour, but rightwing values”, is France’s 269th most popular, a few places behind the TV magazine Télérama.

    The juxtaposition of Guevara and Putin, of Chávez and rightwing values is a sign of the confused political times. The big questions are, who stands for what and what does it mean to be on the right or left?
    [...]

    http://mondediplo.com/2013/11/11rightwing

    Have a look too at the very East German Sahra Wagenknecht taking the Atlanticists to task over Ukraine:

    Long story short, the liberal-libertine Atlantic consensus is in deep crisis and is gathering enemies on all sides. Everything has to end sometime, I guess.

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    Thank you. This link is fantastic. Finally, a beautiful and highly intelligent woman has guts to call a spade a spade:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIi4a7ri-dc
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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    TO SOLVE THE BLACK RACE PROBLEM, WE HAVE TO FIRST SOLVE ANOTHER RACE PROBLEM FIRST.

    Thanks for the interesting article, Sir. You are right, Muslims are anti-Jewish but Judaists know this, but still want to bring more 3rd world Muslims here to US/EU/AUS, because they hate white Christians more than Muslims!

    A Prayer for 5772: “According to a Gallup poll released last month, 80% of American Jews have favorable views of American Muslims. ..American Jews are second only to American Muslims in their support for Muslim Americans.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=239791

    For example, Judaists like Barbara Lerner Spectre wants more blacks and Muslims to invade Sweden.

    This is due to intense pathological hatred Judaists have towards whites and Christians, based on the lies they have been told by their Rabbis, such as the Holohoax, etc. And pathological is irrational, so irrational that even though the Blacks are likely to attack her and her white children, and be anti-Jewish, Judaists like her do not care and believe they will run away to Israel, after destroying Sweden, USA, etc.

    This is because Judaists (who call themselves “Jews”) have delusions that they are a special race called “Jews”, descendents of an African Abraham (who sold his own wife Sarai to an African pharaoh), when, in fact, they are whites whose ancestors converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages (See: Koestler, Schlomo Sand) and there is no such race as “Jew”. See:

    See the article: The Fallacy of Biological Judaism, on:

    http://forward.com/opinion/9406/the-fallacy-of-biological-judaism/

    So we have to awaken these people first and make them love their own White race by getting the delusion of the mythical African race “Jew” out of their minds. That is the first “race problem” we have to solve.

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  • @Ronald Thomas West

    Homosexual marriage didn’t go from being a joke to being conventional wisdom because politicians willed it so. The politicians tagged along behind media and show business elites, who in turn were capitalizing on changes of sensibility in the broad upper-middle classes
     
    Riiight... probably because the conservatives had lost the 'right' of repression of what amounts to ingrained cultural phenomena:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/16/raphaels-paradox/

    Derbyshire's answer? Probably exclusive gay communities to get the homosexuals 'out of sight, out of mind' (surrounded by barbed wire)

    Regency dissipation gave way to Victorian primness
     
    From in the closet to in the closet?

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/10/marquis-de-sade/

    Derbyshire doesn't make any sense at all .. except we point to the hypocrisy behind closed doors consistent in the European culture's behaviors

    Race realism may come to an acceptance by a reverse process: the Old World redressing the balance of the New
     
    Oh yeah, Franz Boas' big-brained White people' have done this world nothing but good at the top of the civilized food chain ..

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/22/junipero-serra/

    Shouldn't they be the ones confined to the apartheid of 'new world' reservations? Methinks YES!

    There has always, in any case, been a serious cognitive dissonance between the intense nationalism of Israel and the multicultural transnationalism of most American Jews
     
    No... in actuality:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/14/gods-chosen-a-dumb-idea/

    America's 'New Jews' .. 'clique' just fine with Israel's 'intense nationalism'

    Can the Standard Social Science Model, with its insistence that race is a social construct, survive when fine points of genomic difference are everyday topics of conversation?
     
    Actually, inter-racial mixing is the better solution; because no one will be interested in recreating a White race that is pointed to collective suicide

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/02/03/people-who-behave-as-stupid-as-they-look/

    The Japanese should stay focused on resurrecting the more intelligent woolly mammoths

    Two-party politics may be just a legacy from the industrial age. It’s not cast in stone. If the duopoly is broken, there is more political space for viewpoints out of the mainstream, and more general willingness to engage with them
     
    Just goes to show the most delusional people on earth can stumble onto the right thing to do

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/07/23/scooby-doo-on-lyndon-ladouche/

    ^ But of course the USA's 'alternative' selections are right up there with the nutters behind UKIP

    And just to pile insult on insult:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/10/09/liberals/

    ^ actually a reply to Derbyshire's multiculturalism point (worth a read)

    Whether you agree with him or not, John Derbyshire does indeed make sense. I’d also say he has you beaten when it comes to conveying ideas and information to readers.

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    Stealth, you are a master of understatement.
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  • Zooty bow tie John – is it real or a cheaty clip-on?

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  • War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Hypothetically, suppose there are no differences in racial intelligence. As far as the fundamental issue facing Native Born White Americans …very rapid race-replacement…how would anything change?…Answer:0. The case against nonwhite legal immigrants would still be very strong.

    As far as blacks go…do you really think we are going to have a policy wonk debate about mind-numbing-the-eyes-glaze over IQ psychometrics with blacks? We are in the era of home-break-ins and gang rape by black males…..IQ psychometrics is used by H1B and L1 B enthusiasts to justify race-replacing Native Born White American Males in the Tech Field.

    The great failure of Jared Taylor and American Renaissance is that Taylor and his organization should have put a laser beam focus-unrelentingly-on the H1B…L1 B Asian scab labor program to the exclusion of IQ Test score psychometric jibber jabber.

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  • Europe won’t tolerate it. Why? Because all good ideas are pushed too far. It is almost a law of history. It is the good ideas that prove to be the most damaging.

    Europe is the EU, NATO and the Eurozone.

    The mere fact that they are transnational European institutions that have different members is a clue. The EU has expanded beyond reason. Romania, Bulgaria, and now, the attempt to recruit Ukraine is a sign of its weakness, not its strength. But it is truly an ill wind that blows nobody any good. The Eastern Europeans got rolled over in WWII. Then brutalized by the USSR. And are in no mood to take any shit from the East or the West. Romania now has a Gypsy population of 3%. It’s a problem, but very manageable. And everyone will state openly what they know. That they are uncivilized and impossible to assimilate. Or, “I hate Gypsies.” Just a matter of fact. They won’t be shy speaking up about Africans. Why would they? They were never a colonial power. They don’t have America’s history of slavery hanging over their head. No concentration camps. They aren’t guilty, they are pissed off.

    And the Germans? Not so much. Their mere insistence that people follow the rules will make the country inhospitable to impoverished illegal immigrants. The Swiss? They had the good sense to avoid the UN, The EU, NATO, and the Euro. No one can immigrate to Switzerland.

    The Euro and NATO are examples of just how different Europe is from the United States. Alabama? They use the $US, our military would actually fight for them, we would never send in the IMF to reform them, etc. The Union was cemented with blood, and the citizens of Alabama want Federal Dollars for defense industries, universities, &c. The Fed, love it or hate it, calls the shots on the dollar. The ECB? They are about to lose Greece. The remainder of the PIIGS are barely hanging in.

    Even the Swedes are tired of their blonde women getting raped by immigrants. My hunch is that the first shot in this culture war will be fired by the Romanians. The rest will notice that no one stopped them. That they couldn’t be shamed because they are had no choice but to be realists.

    The Eastern Europeans also want to work in the West. They won’t just roll over and be bullied out of their menial jobs (by Western European standards). And the Scottish. They can talk a good game about the social welfare state, but they just aren’t genetically able to give an inch. I don’t see the Irish taking a lot of shit either.

    With EU immigration policies, citizens are free to move as they see fit. But the individual countries can also enforce laws as they wish. Once any country decides to deport illegals, they will get sent to the next one. It is one thing to let some immigrants trickle in. Entirely another to have their borders overrun by tougher and poorer countries enforcing their laws. It will be crystal clear that someone will be left holding the bag.

    Who knows. This is a possible scenario.

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    You make good points. From everything I can tell, looking at Europe from this side of the Atlantic, the continent is at the start of deep political upheaval. To add to all that, the "Euro-Atlantic consensus" of the EU. US and NATO seem to all be perfectly comfortable walking hand in hand into a war with Russia.

    The best way for people to get a sense of how weird and wobbly the European political base is getting is to read about France's Alain Soral. This article from November of 2013 is from a thoroughly respectable source and gives a surprisingly even-handed summary of the ideology of someone they must see as an opponent and potential threat:


    ‘Leftwing on labour but rightwing values’
    The online politics of Alain Soral
    Millions of French people, especially the young, read the website of Alain Soral and watch his monthly online talks, in which he thinks and argues his way through to a nationalist, sometimes socialist, always anti-Semitic, parallel politics.
    by Evelyne Pieiller

    Visitors to Alain Soral’s Egalité et Réconciliation (Equality and Reconciliation, E & R) website see pictures of Hugo Chávez, Che Guevara, Muammar Gaddafi, Patrice Lumumba, Thomas Sankara, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Fidel Castro and Vladimir Putin on the left of the masthead. Joan of Arc and Soral are on the right. The site, with its motto “leftwing on labour, but rightwing values”, is France’s 269th most popular, a few places behind the TV magazine Télérama.

    The juxtaposition of Guevara and Putin, of Chávez and rightwing values is a sign of the confused political times. The big questions are, who stands for what and what does it mean to be on the right or left?
    [...]
     

    http://mondediplo.com/2013/11/11rightwing

    Have a look too at the very East German Sahra Wagenknecht taking the Atlanticists to task over Ukraine:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIi4a7ri-dc

    Long story short, the liberal-libertine Atlantic consensus is in deep crisis and is gathering enemies on all sides. Everything has to end sometime, I guess.

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  • Nice group of bullet points John.

    On the two party system, my impression of these is that the major political parties are fairly stable, though often quite inflexible in the short term. Over the longer term they can morph quite a bit – we can see this in how the left parties are often no longer the party of workers but of immigrants, homosexuals and the like.

    However, it is self-evident that society and the issues of the day will change vastly from the time of the genesis of a party to the current day. Usually a viable third party will only emerge when there is a large/powerful enough group of people whose wishes are not being represented by the major political parties. I think we are seeing that now. Should the third party succeed in winning an election, one of the major parties will die off and the remaining one may or may not adopt the new policies of the winning party.

    I think this is what we may be seeing with the rise of UKIP and the like. Hopefully.

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  • Will this be an interim solution or a final one?

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  • @Tom_R
    SOLUTION TO MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS--BINDING SUPERSEDING NATIONAL REFERENDA.

    Thanks for the great article, Sir. I agree with you. The 2 party system is a joke. But England has not done better as it has massive 3rd world immigration. But I have a better idea.

    Regarding immigration, the crooked EU and US politicians are allowing this invasion. They could use the navy and armed forces to guard borders, stop giving visas and asylums (most applications are fake) and ban immigration, but they are too corrupt and evil to care about their own country. They must have been bribed, of course, or why would they allow 3rd world aliens to invade their country?

    But there is one great solution: It is a constitutional amendment to allow irreversible binding superseding national referenda, so people can pass good laws in the national interest themselves. These laws will supersede laws passed by Congress or Parliaments and Sup. Ct. rulings and cannot be overturned except on constitutional grounds by a supermajority of both houses and a unanimous vote of the Supreme Court. The people can thereupon override them with a 66% vote.

    That way, the people can ban immigrant themselves and pass other laws to stop this invasion. Whites must have 10 children each also, in the meantime.

    Laws that affect the nation as a whole, such as immigration, EU membership, etc. must be approved by the people first.

    For eg., see:

    National Citizen’s Initiative for Democracy:
    http://ncid.us/
    http://www.iandrinstitute.org/National%20I&R.htm

    We Americans (and Europeans and Australians and Canadians) need to visit these websites, join these groups, contribute and call radio talk shows, etc. and promote this idea and get the process started soon, before it is too late or America (and similarly Europe/Canada/Australia), as we know it, will be finished.

    You can’t have a national referendum in the United States because there is no national electorate before which to put it.

    My state has Election Day registration and no ID requirement. Other states have 30-day deadlines and photo ID. Those two differences alone destroy the legitimacy of any “popular vote” total. Add in things like differences in mail-in procedures, restoration of felon rights, and the like and you’ve got quite the sandbox for the Supreme Court to play in.

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  • JOE BIDEN ACCIDENTALLY NAMES HIS OWNERS AND OPERATORS WHO USED HIM TO FORCE LIBERALISM ON USA AND EU.

    Sir, I do not think that politicians listen to the people and the people did not become liberal and start accepting homopathy and the alien invasion and the politicians then succumbed.

    On the contrary, one group that controls the media and the govt. is pushing liberalism AGAINST the will of the people and the people are too afraid to speak out.

    Joe Biden knows them very well. He is so afraid of them, he had to thank them for making him destroy his own country!! See:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/349155/joe-biden-attributes-social-liberalism-jewish-control-hollywood-and-social-media

    They control him so much, he later had to apologize for thanking them.

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  • I don’t think Taylor’s two conditions “solving” the “black problem” are either necessary or sufficient. I think we’d have no more problem to speak of, if we could do just one thing: enforce the laws in colorblind fashion. The moment blacks stop getting a pass for antisocial behavior — from the trivial to the lethal — we’ll be close to where we want to be.

    Start with doing to Al Sharpton what they’d do to me if I blew off the IRS. Move on to prosecuting those perjurers from Ferguson. “Broken-windows” policing nationwide. Blacks were well-behaved last time we had that (ie pre-1960).

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    Sure they were! Here is what "Time" was saying, on behalf of the forward-thinking Establishment, at the height of American Civilization, back when I was barely eighteen months old, and growing up in Gary, Indiana ("The City of the Century"), along with my parents and eight siblings:

    http://www.amren.com/news/2008/06/the_negro_crime/

    , @Enrique Cardova
    International Jew says:
    I don’t think Taylor’s two conditions “solving” the “black problem” are either necessary or sufficient.
    But why not? Taylor has a clear game plan. (a) Flood the one with distorted "HBD" propaganda to promote white racial consciousness, and (b) work to implement measures to restore apartheid structures- from repealing the Civil Right Act of 1964, to bringing back restrictive covenants so as to purge white neighborhoods of the Jews and culluds, to implementation of a web of race conscious policies in employment and education- like white quotas. Taylor is to be commended for his realism. He is covering and obscuring these bottom lines in this approaches and appeals to different audiences, but anyone who has read his writings clearly understands his neo-apartheid vision.

    I think we’d have no more problem to speak of, if we could do just one thing: enforce the laws in colorblind fashion.
    Agreed. And this would include enforcing the laws in colorblind fashion so whites do not unfairly manipulate them to benefit their own color- as they have done during US history and continue to do. Lets be real about it like Taylor.

    .
    The moment blacks stop getting a pass for antisocial behavior — from the trivial to the lethal — we’ll be close to where we want to be.
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    Rather dubious. Blacks are not getting any pass for anti-social behavior, To the contrary. Whites have implemented plenty of suppressive measures to against any such pass, such as race profiling "stop and frisk," "stop and seizure" as was popular in the 1990s with "suspected drug money" being taken from motorists, to differential law enforcement where certain drugs are concerned, and many other things. You are naively misinformed. Blacks aren't getting any special "pass." The reality on the ground is completely different from what you claim.
    See for example:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2014/03/12/cops-use-traffic-stops-to-seize-millions-from-drivers-never-charged-with-a-crime/

    or
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    An Orlando Sentinel investigation of more than 1,000 traffic stops made by Vogel's drug interstate squad showed minority drivers were stopped much more frequently than white drivers, although far more whites traveled on I-95. And the stops often ended with money seized even though no criminal charges were filed. A Hispanic man and a black woman, whose cash was taken by Volusia deputies in separate stops and who were never charged with crimes, challenged Vogel in court.
    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1996-03-10/news/9603090744_1_seizing-volusia-vogel

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    ^^Perhaps white America can apply some of that "colorblindness" you were talking about aye?


    .
    Start with doing to Al Sharpton what they’d do to me if I blew off the IRS. Move on to prosecuting those perjurers from Ferguson. “Broken-windows” policing nationwide. Blacks were well-behaved last time we had that (ie pre-1960).
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    Al Sharpton is washed up hack, useful for political mobilization by those who indulge him. He is nothing special. White banksters have gotten numerous passes and very little jail time for the devastation they wrought to ordinary WHITE Americans, not to mention the many passes given white political lobbyists all the time.

    But even more interesting, you are contradicting your own statement. Up above you talk about this "free pass" blacks keep getting. But now you say "broken windows" forced nice behavior from blacks. If "broken windows" is doing so well in suppressing bad black behavior, how would blacks be getting the mystical "free pass" you talk about? Which is it?

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  • Homosexual marriage didn’t go from being a joke to being conventional wisdom because politicians willed it so. The politicians tagged along behind media and show business elites, who in turn were capitalizing on changes of sensibility in the broad upper-middle classes

    Riiight… probably because the conservatives had lost the ‘right’ of repression of what amounts to ingrained cultural phenomena:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/16/raphaels-paradox/

    Derbyshire’s answer? Probably exclusive gay communities to get the homosexuals ‘out of sight, out of mind’ (surrounded by barbed wire)

    Regency dissipation gave way to Victorian primness

    From in the closet to in the closet?

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/10/marquis-de-sade/

    Derbyshire doesn’t make any sense at all .. except we point to the hypocrisy behind closed doors consistent in the European culture’s behaviors

    Race realism may come to an acceptance by a reverse process: the Old World redressing the balance of the New

    Oh yeah, Franz Boas’ big-brained White people’ have done this world nothing but good at the top of the civilized food chain ..

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/22/junipero-serra/

    Shouldn’t they be the ones confined to the apartheid of ‘new world’ reservations? Methinks YES!

    There has always, in any case, been a serious cognitive dissonance between the intense nationalism of Israel and the multicultural transnationalism of most American Jews

    No… in actuality:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/14/gods-chosen-a-dumb-idea/

    America’s ‘New Jews’ .. ‘clique’ just fine with Israel’s ‘intense nationalism’

    Can the Standard Social Science Model, with its insistence that race is a social construct, survive when fine points of genomic difference are everyday topics of conversation?

    Actually, inter-racial mixing is the better solution; because no one will be interested in recreating a White race that is pointed to collective suicide

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/02/03/people-who-behave-as-stupid-as-they-look/

    The Japanese should stay focused on resurrecting the more intelligent woolly mammoths

    Two-party politics may be just a legacy from the industrial age. It’s not cast in stone. If the duopoly is broken, there is more political space for viewpoints out of the mainstream, and more general willingness to engage with them

    Just goes to show the most delusional people on earth can stumble onto the right thing to do

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/07/23/scooby-doo-on-lyndon-ladouche/

    ^ But of course the USA’s ‘alternative’ selections are right up there with the nutters behind UKIP

    And just to pile insult on insult:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/10/09/liberals/

    ^ actually a reply to Derbyshire’s multiculturalism point (worth a read)

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    Whether you agree with him or not, John Derbyshire does indeed make sense. I'd also say he has you beaten when it comes to conveying ideas and information to readers.
    , @Wally
    Right, black Africa has done a bang up job in promoting equal rights for homosexuals.

    And whites are so incredibly horrific that blacks, browns, & yellows are begging for entry into the countries where whites are a majority.

    I suggest that Ronald West review the status of every geographical entity where blacks run the government, every geographical entity where blacks are a majority. Not a pretty picture.

    Of course, everyone knows about the incredible black work ethic.

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  • SOLUTION TO MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS–BINDING SUPERSEDING NATIONAL REFERENDA.

    Thanks for the great article, Sir. I agree with you. The 2 party system is a joke. But England has not done better as it has massive 3rd world immigration. But I have a better idea.

    Regarding immigration, the crooked EU and US politicians are allowing this invasion. They could use the navy and armed forces to guard borders, stop giving visas and asylums (most applications are fake) and ban immigration, but they are too corrupt and evil to care about their own country. They must have been bribed, of course, or why would they allow 3rd world aliens to invade their country?

    But there is one great solution: It is a constitutional amendment to allow irreversible binding superseding national referenda, so people can pass good laws in the national interest themselves. These laws will supersede laws passed by Congress or Parliaments and Sup. Ct. rulings and cannot be overturned except on constitutional grounds by a supermajority of both houses and a unanimous vote of the Supreme Court. The people can thereupon override them with a 66% vote.

    That way, the people can ban immigrant themselves and pass other laws to stop this invasion. Whites must have 10 children each also, in the meantime.

    Laws that affect the nation as a whole, such as immigration, EU membership, etc. must be approved by the people first.

    For eg., see:

    National Citizen’s Initiative for Democracy:

    http://ncid.us/

    http://www.iandrinstitute.org/National%20I&R.htm

    We Americans (and Europeans and Australians and Canadians) need to visit these websites, join these groups, contribute and call radio talk shows, etc. and promote this idea and get the process started soon, before it is too late or America (and similarly Europe/Canada/Australia), as we know it, will be finished.

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    You can't have a national referendum in the United States because there is no national electorate before which to put it.

    My state has Election Day registration and no ID requirement. Other states have 30-day deadlines and photo ID. Those two differences alone destroy the legitimacy of any "popular vote" total. Add in things like differences in mail-in procedures, restoration of felon rights, and the like and you've got quite the sandbox for the Supreme Court to play in.
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  • Unz.com provides us with an opportunity to introduce New Terminology: in place of the Standard Social Science Model, contributors and readers seem to be evolving a crowd-sourced Daylight Social Science Model.

    That title may include the notion of disinfectant properties of daylight (Louis Brandeis: “Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman.”), along with a temporal nod about the seasonality of social interactions. To every movement there is a season…

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  • At Salon.com I encounter an article lengthily titled, America’s virulent racists: The sick ideas and perverted “science” of the American Renaissance, and published in book for by Harvard University Press. The burden of the piece is that American Renaissance and its honcho, Jared Taylor, are “Hitlerian,” “anti-Semitic," and hold “extremist views.” These are grave accusations,...
  • @Bliss

    . You know Reed was referring to Europeans, more explicitly Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent
     
    So to you caucasian means Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent? Can you show us where you learned that nordicist nonsense?

    Then what are middle-easterners and southern europeans in your racial classification system?

    I can see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I told you that was what Reed was referring to not what I believe.

    Up your game or get out troll. You just doubled down on either your stupidity or cupidity, take your pick. Or maybe English isn’t your first language.

    Troll factor 2 out of 10 you’re actually getting worse at trolling.

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  • @Frankie
    Knock it off. You're going for the one point you think you have a chance at, and hoping it casts doubt over the other points by association. TUJ pulls this kind of transparent nonsense all the time. You're wrong about Wise, but even if you were right, it would not make people forget the examples you ignore like Foxman, Spectre and Steinlight.

    I'm not interested in debating Jews, I'm interested in Mr. Reed's opinion on the topic, given that his experience in elite media and politics is greater than my own.

    Then you should send Mr. Reed an email. I don’t think that he responds to commenters on this website, and his personal site doesn’t allow comments.

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  • @Anonymous
    Tim Wise is not Jewish, he is of one-fourth Jewish ancestry. There is a difference.

    Knock it off. You’re going for the one point you think you have a chance at, and hoping it casts doubt over the other points by association. TUJ pulls this kind of transparent nonsense all the time. You’re wrong about Wise, but even if you were right, it would not make people forget the examples you ignore like Foxman, Spectre and Steinlight.

    I’m not interested in debating Jews, I’m interested in Mr. Reed’s opinion on the topic, given that his experience in elite media and politics is greater than my own.

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    Then you should send Mr. Reed an email. I don't think that he responds to commenters on this website, and his personal site doesn't allow comments.
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  • @Frankie
    Mr. Reed,

    I greatly enjoy reading your articles, and have read through much of your archives.

    However, I am genuinely puzzled by your stance on Jews in the West. For instance, in your article about Tim Wise, you did not think it relevant that he is Jewish, in that he does not consider himself to be among those so-called "privileged" whites he so loathes?

    Not all Jews are anti-white as this very website shows, but I don't think it is controversial to suggest that the radical Jewish left, particularly Ashkenazi from Eastern Europe, has been a leading, if not the leading voice of the anti-white movement of the past fifty years.

    The best writer on Jews today that I know of is Luke Ford, moreso than Kevin Macdonald. Ford is a convert into Orthodox Judaism, and his written extensively on the topic of anti-whiteism among leftist Jews. For instance, the consensus of organized Jewry in favor of amnesty. I know you'll argue that Gentile elites support amnesty too, but those are economic elites, not cultural elites. There's a difference between supporting cheap labor as a multinational corporation, and supporting race replacement of an ethnic rival as the Jewish Family & Children’s Service (Pittsburgh, PA). There is a transcript available of Stephen Steinlight's address to a Jewish audience about immigration, and it's truly vile.

    Mr. Reed, I am certain that you have more experience around Jews in elite journalism and politics than I do, but the prominence of Jews in the anti-white movement, and their near media monopoly* in controlling public discourse on race and immigration, deserves further discussion than dismissal as "anti-semitism".

    * Sailer has documented the dominance of Jews among America's most influential writers. I can dig up the link if you would like.

    Tim Wise is not Jewish, he is of one-fourth Jewish ancestry. There is a difference.

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    • Replies: @Frankie
    Knock it off. You're going for the one point you think you have a chance at, and hoping it casts doubt over the other points by association. TUJ pulls this kind of transparent nonsense all the time. You're wrong about Wise, but even if you were right, it would not make people forget the examples you ignore like Foxman, Spectre and Steinlight.

    I'm not interested in debating Jews, I'm interested in Mr. Reed's opinion on the topic, given that his experience in elite media and politics is greater than my own.
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  • @Bliss

    . You know Reed was referring to Europeans, more explicitly Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent
     
    So to you caucasian means Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent? Can you show us where you learned that nordicist nonsense?

    Then what are middle-easterners and southern europeans in your racial classification system?

    Off-white?

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  • @TWS
    Don't be deliberately obtuse. You know Reed was referring to Europeans, more explicitly Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent. You're not being remotely clever or even fooling anyone but yourself.

    Troll factor 3 out of 10. You need to up your 'troll game'.

    . You know Reed was referring to Europeans, more explicitly Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent

    So to you caucasian means Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent? Can you show us where you learned that nordicist nonsense?

    Then what are middle-easterners and southern europeans in your racial classification system?

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    Off-white?
    , @TWS
    I can see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I told you that was what Reed was referring to not what I believe.

    Up your game or get out troll. You just doubled down on either your stupidity or cupidity, take your pick. Or maybe English isn't your first language.

    Troll factor 2 out of 10 you're actually getting worse at trolling.

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  • Mr. Reed, are you the Unz commenter Fred, FredR, or neither?
    If you are Fred, I retract my question. I see you’ve talked about antigentilism in Israel and among the Foxmans of the world, and perhaps you answered my question in prior comments which I haven’t yet read.
    Still, I’m sure you knew someone would inevitably bring Sussman’s Jewishness and the media in general into the discussion, and so perhaps a brief clarification on your part, or a reference to a prior article or comment, may be helpful.

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  • @Bliss

    As a group they tended to accept the validity of IQ testing, which in intelligence puts humanity in the order Ashkenazi Jews, North Asians, Caucasians, Hispanics, American blacks, African blacks.
     
    That means that as a group they are either dishonest, irrational, or in denial. For their Bible, the Bell Curve, finds that black americans have the same IQ as caucasian middle-easterners. And hispanics are found to have higher IQs than middle-eastern caucasians. And all of them have higher IQs than south asians, who are also classified as caucasians in their crackpot race theories.

    So how the heck do they rank caucasians as a group above hispanics and african-americans?

    Don’t be deliberately obtuse. You know Reed was referring to Europeans, more explicitly Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent. You’re not being remotely clever or even fooling anyone but yourself.

    Troll factor 3 out of 10. You need to up your ‘troll game’.

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    . You know Reed was referring to Europeans, more explicitly Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent
     
    So to you caucasian means Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent? Can you show us where you learned that nordicist nonsense?

    Then what are middle-easterners and southern europeans in your racial classification system?
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  • As a group they tended to accept the validity of IQ testing, which in intelligence puts humanity in the order Ashkenazi Jews, North Asians, Caucasians, Hispanics, American blacks, African blacks.

    That means that as a group they are either dishonest, irrational, or in denial. For their Bible, the Bell Curve, finds that black americans have the same IQ as caucasian middle-easterners. And hispanics are found to have higher IQs than middle-eastern caucasians. And all of them have higher IQs than south asians, who are also classified as caucasians in their crackpot race theories.

    So how the heck do they rank caucasians as a group above hispanics and african-americans?

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    • Replies: @TWS
    Don't be deliberately obtuse. You know Reed was referring to Europeans, more explicitly Americans of (mostly) Northern European descent. You're not being remotely clever or even fooling anyone but yourself.

    Troll factor 3 out of 10. You need to up your 'troll game'.
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  • The major names in the pro-white (or anti-antiwhite I’ve heard as well) movement like Taylor, Macdonald, etc. haven’t proven effective in mounting a successful counterattack.
    America wasn’t taken over by dispassionate essays, it was taken over by memes and emotionally loaded attack words: Racist! Supremacist! Nazi! None of these guys know meme warfare. Textbooks are useful in the classroom, but not in the battlefield, and they get creamed.

    Fred, have you heard of BUGS, the creators of the “anti-racist is code for anti-white” and associated memes? They created the “anti-racist Hitler” video. Those guys seem to have greater success in influencing the narrative, and in a much shorter timespan as well.
    It’s noteworthy that Tim Wise won’t debate BUGS, but he is willing to debate Taylor, perhaps because Taylor is seen as an easier target. The BUGS mantra is solid and hard to crack.

    If you like the message, maybe you could use the terminology in your writing, to increase the spread of the message?

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  • Mr. Reed,

    I greatly enjoy reading your articles, and have read through much of your archives.

    However, I am genuinely puzzled by your stance on Jews in the West. For instance, in your article about Tim Wise, you did not think it relevant that he is Jewish, in that he does not consider himself to be among those so-called “privileged” whites he so loathes?

    Not all Jews are anti-white as this very website shows, but I don’t think it is controversial to suggest that the radical Jewish left, particularly Ashkenazi from Eastern Europe, has been a leading, if not the leading voice of the anti-white movement of the past fifty years.

    The best writer on Jews today that I know of is Luke Ford, moreso than Kevin Macdonald. Ford is a convert into Orthodox Judaism, and his written extensively on the topic of anti-whiteism among leftist Jews. For instance, the consensus of organized Jewry in favor of amnesty. I know you’ll argue that Gentile elites support amnesty too, but those are economic elites, not cultural elites. There’s a difference between supporting cheap labor as a multinational corporation, and supporting race replacement of an ethnic rival as the Jewish Family & Children’s Service (Pittsburgh, PA). There is a transcript available of Stephen Steinlight’s address to a Jewish audience about immigration, and it’s truly vile.

    Mr. Reed, I am certain that you have more experience around Jews in elite journalism and politics than I do, but the prominence of Jews in the anti-white movement, and their near media monopoly* in controlling public discourse on race and immigration, deserves further discussion than dismissal as “anti-semitism”.

    * Sailer has documented the dominance of Jews among America’s most influential writers. I can dig up the link if you would like.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Tim Wise is not Jewish, he is of one-fourth Jewish ancestry. There is a difference.
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