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    Two weeks ago, I wrote for Unz.com an article entitled “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars.” It sought to make several points concerning the consequences of Jewish political power vis-à-vis some aspects of U.S. foreign policy. It noted that some individual American Jews and organizations with close ties to Israel, whom I named and identified,...
  • @Hu Mi Yu
    I don't think the problem is entirely Israeli influence. The US has had a hypnotic fascination with Jews since its founding. British religious dissenters read the Bible and reinterpreted the Exodus to refer to themselves. Their migration to the promised land was their journey to America. They identify with Jews. This thread still runs through many of our religions such as Baptist and Mormon.

    We are running into a brick wall of religion. No amount of reason will sway this emotional bond with Jews.

    The bright side here is the rise of Chinese influence. The Chinese will never be convinced that writing was invented by Jews, that the Bible is the world's oldest book, or that the laws of physics suddenly changed in 4004 BC.

    Yes, and I’m glad for the Chinese immigration, as communism government forbids religious beliefs in China. What I worry is the intermarriages. I have several Chinese friends and non Chinese friends who intermarry. When they wined up in marriages amongst Jews, which I am not against, it’s the conversion that bothers me. Why convert to someones God? Why brainwash ourselves into other peoples religions? We need to educate our children that under no circumstances shall they convert to others religion. Look at President Trumps daughter. In order to marry Kushner, she had to convert into Orthodox Judaism. Her grandparents must be rolling in their grave.

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  • @David Novate
    The US is an Israeli’s colony but thanks to Trump, Kushner, Sheldon Adelson, and Zionist Bannon, it will be liberated in the next war.
    No one voted for an Israeli’s puppet; Trump has been fully exposed.

    what have we done?

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  • @John Kirby
    As an 80 year-old Englishman I have watched in sorrow over the years as the USA lost its moral authority. Jewish Power is now so great in America that it seems that instructions comes directly from Tel Aviv. I hope the groundswell apparent on this site can grow to end the Jewish grip on the nation's throat.

    The truth will set us free, but that won't happen until we get a realy free press.


    Press on Mr Giraldi, good luck and God Bless.

    Well said Mr. Giraldi

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  • I’m surprised you’re writing about this now. My ancestors ingrained this information to us since the day we can remember. Countries in the Middle East have been destroyed, ripped of their country for the sake of Israel. Part of Cyprus, (thanks to Kissinger) was practically handed over by the US (because of Israel influence). It was given to Turkey (a friendly ally of Israel). Turkish/Cyprus now has US bases there to protect Israel. All this happened because Cyprus and Greece said they wanted no part of Israel connections back in 1974. Read Allison Weir. Awesome writer “When will the Giant Wake Up?”

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  • I think it would be better to avoid ethno-collectivism in this matter, however very tempting it may be. And I believe you realize the issue involved.

    If Jews were THAT cohesive, would there be Christianity to begin with? Also, as you understand to some extent, but may not realize to the fullest extent, some Jews have had more severe career and credential-destroying experiences with other Jews than many of the Gentiles who have been criticizing Jews or Jewish entities in a strenuous manner. At least such Gentiles have fora, positions, status in order to suffer with a certain amount of insulation! Some should be thankful they even got teaching posts in the 1970′s or ’80′s however terrible the situation may be in academia today or decades back.

    Jews who are not ethnic collectivists are far more isolated than their Gentile counterparts who can bond comfortably with fellow-sufferers, but fewer and fewer seem to grasp this today as a Tsunami of revenge is brewing out there–long in the making since the first energy crisis of the Nixon years.

    Just a few thoughts for mutual reflection…..

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  • @Hairway To Steven
    If you look at things through the prism of pure national interest, and ask yourself, "Has our relationship with Israel hurt us more than it has helped us?," the answer is so obvious as to be painful.

    Ever since bipartisan policies with Israel, since 1985.

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  • As an 80 year-old Englishman I have watched in sorrow over the years as the USA lost its moral authority. Jewish Power is now so great in America that it seems that instructions comes directly from Tel Aviv. I hope the groundswell apparent on this site can grow to end the Jewish grip on the nation’s throat.

    The truth will set us free, but that won’t happen until we get a realy free press.

    Press on Mr Giraldi, good luck and God Bless.

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  • The US is an Israeli’s colony but thanks to Trump, Kushner, Sheldon Adelson, and Zionist Bannon, it will be liberated in the next war.
    No one voted for an Israeli’s puppet; Trump has been fully exposed.

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    what have we done?
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  • I am (was) a charter subscriber to The American Conservative and always looked forward to Philip Giraldi’s column because it was always full of information and not just opinion. After reading that TAC’s editor fired him for his audacity in criticizing the Tribe’s activities, I wrote a message to Mr. Merry, the editor, and asked him to cancel my subscription.

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  • I never get posts published by certain key authors of TAC. The firing or Philip Giraldi by TAC explains much. This means that TAC is descending into the despair of Main Stream Media. TAC’s value as a Fourth Estate guardian just went south.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Tom Welsh
    "It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them".

    - Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar, Ch. XX

    Thus it becomes possible to prate continually about one's devotion to human rights, freedom of speech, etc. without ever having to suffer the inconvenience of actually respecting those rights.

    I seriously think that the USA could well be renamed "The United States of Hypocrisy". It seems unlikely that hypocrisy has ever been raised to such a fine art as it has in the USA, more or less since its creation.

    Indeed, one may well consider that the American Revolution was brought about by a rich and powerful minority of colonists, in order to escape from the relatively moderate government of London and the better to engage in slavery, the murder of the Native Americans and the theft of their lands.

    “theft of their lands.”

    THEIR lands? How do you figure that, cuckboy? Indians had no concept of land ownership. We arrived with superior intelligence and technology, helped by them dropping like flies from disease. How did we “take their land”? What you mean is we conquered their land. It’s what humans have done for a few millennia.

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  • @Rurik
    well then there was nothing cryptic at all

    when the priest (Father Zosima) started to smell, it was a spiritual crisis for Alexei

    Fyodor was not the devout proponent he's sometimes made out to be

    A sinner, for sure, admittedly, in the prisoners’ Christmas in The House of the Dead. In reality, there are no saints who aren’t sinners, the admission is a requirement.

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  • On a recent article on Richard Spencer’s right to speak at Ohio State University by Peter Van Buren in The American Conservative, I commented, “that everyone has a right to free speech (verbal or written) as long as it is not critical of Israel or Jews. Take the case of Philip Giraldi who was fired by American Conservative for doing just that. Mr. Van Buren where were you then?” Needless to say, my comment was censored.

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  • @Blake
    Terribly sorry that someone with a form sense of justice has fallen prey to this very sinister agenda which has been brewing for decades turning humanity on its head where the abnormal becomes the norm. The reverse trend needs to happen fast to save us all.

    Decades you say? Decades? You jest of course.

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  • Great article. Thank you for daring to speak out.

    What Israel wants is world government with the US as vice president.

    The Jews, since time immemorial tried to get power by educating their children so they would be in the top professions, as a means to gain power. That is what ultimately brought about the Jewish Pogroms in Nazi Germany: Hitler needed both, to galvanize the public hatred against the economic difficulties and a faltering economy in order to safeguard his idea of a thousand year Reich and justify endless war to gain from plunder what the economy couldn’t produce anymore – it is in essence the same policy as the US policy now. The Jews, hated by the public for controlling the banks and professions, were an easy target. Today for the US it is Islamo-fascism, created by the CIA with groups like al Qaida and ISIS and their affiliates, which are of the CIA’s own making. The principle is the same. The social group chosen to be discriminated against changed. What Israel does in Palestine is almost verbatim taken from Hitler’s playbook.

    I think people should let go of their illusions that the US is genuinely a democracy. It isn’t. While it has all the institutions to make it a democracy, these institutions are so corrupted as to be the means for oppression, not freedom. See the two-tiered judicial system, the police violence, the complete absence from Congress of the needs and interests of the US people as guiding principle of policy.

    If a nation’s government does not have the welfare of all its people at heart – then what is the purpose of that government? Clearly: elitism, empire and the despotism to maintain empire. That is the shortest summary of the US foreign and domestic policy. And note that this policy never changes from one president to the next.

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  • @Rurik
    well done Incitatus !

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?
     
    the starvation blockade was only possible because Germany had agreed. based on Wilson's Fourteen Points, to disarm, honorably. And put their fate in the hands of the Allies, who they counted on also to act honorable.

    But the Fourteen Points turned out to be a ruse and the treacherous Allies used the disarmament of Germany as an opportunity to starve her into perpetual slavery and humiliation.

    It was all a betrayal. The whole history of the World Wars are tales of treachery, betrayal and murderous perfidy.

    And speaking of, the reason all of this is salient, is because this is an article about Jewish treachery in bringing the US into perpetual wars for Israel, and this was going on a hundred years ago, exactly as Mr. Freedman points out.

    You see Incitatus, that's why I'm grateful to you for having read and critiqued Mr. Freedman's speech, because the crux of the speech is that American Jews, having made a treacherous deal with England for the status of Palestine, dragged America into a war for Israel. (wow, isn't that getting tiresome by now?)

    And so Germany was betrayed by America and the allies, and then once Germany was in ruins and prostrate, the world's Jews descended upon her, and used their possession of the Federal Reserve Bank to buy up all of Germany's media and institutions and then lord it over the German people, using their children in the infamous brothels of Weimer Berlin. (Weinstein's predatory rapine is child's play compared to the notorious ((Weimar regime))

    So, even as Mr. Giraldi laments the treachery of American Jews, using their ill-gotten lucre to control the institutions of our nation, and drag her into endless wars on the Jew's behalf, this has been going on for over a hundred years! Ever since Woodrow Wilson handed the world's greediest Jews the keys to the US Treasury.

    May he rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.

    or, I'm sure as far as you and the Maven are concerned, he was quite a mensch, right in there with FDR, George Bush and Barak Obama.

    You see Incitatus, that’s why I’m grateful to you for having read and critiqued Mr. Freedman’s speech,

    I highly doubt he read it. Me may have scanned it looking for things to pick apart and subject to mockery, but the evidence has long been that they don’t give a damn about facts or the truth unless they can twist such things to their own perversions.

    The Shamsters are on the losing side, and like dying snakes, twist and turn in failed attempts to save themselves.

    It’s almost enough to tempt a person to pity them.

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  • Yup, debt is not only good, but necessary, sez the shamsters.

    Despite a brutal U.S. blockade on food, finance and technology, and without incurring debt,Mao grew China’s economy by an average of 7.3 percent annually, compared to America’s postwar boom years’ 3.7 percent.

    GODFREE ROBERTS , Mao Reconsidered, OCTOBER 16, 2017

    http://www.unz.com/article/mao-reconsidered/#comment-2046531

    Debt, who needs it?

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  • Oh my – 600 words of worthless boring Jew dribble about WWII designed to put guilt on people who were not even alive.

    Shame on you Jew – you know that is not nice.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @Sam Shama
    Hi Art,
    Great gusts of hot air from Trump, no doubt with AIPAC's encouragement, yet all of it likely to amount to nothing. A war with Iran is simply not in the cards. What these people want is to somehow re-introduce economic sanctions on Iran, a mistake in itself, but Trump, I think hates anything that has Obama's signature on it, and wants to wipe out any and all reminders of his predecessor. Me? A war with Iran would be a terrible folly, every which way.

    “(Trump) hates anything that has Obama’s signature on it.”

    Hey Maven Shammy,

    Does Trump hate the $38 billion that Obama agreed to give Israel late last year?

    (A deep State sigh)

    More likely ZUSA President Trump is upset that “Bibi” got short changed by Barack Hussein Obama.

    Selah Gust of Mar a lago hot air & “Chasing Light” Fingers ‘Til Debt Do They Part.

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  • Hark! ‘Copier-coller’!

    “He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.”

    The Nocturnal Pedagogic Parrot! Rare cousin of the Proselytizing Pedagogic Peacock!

    A penchant for anonymity keeps this species on the fringe, where it’s less likely to be confronted for garden-variety plagiarism. The NPP cuts and pastes maxims without quotes or attribution, seeking stature concealing native stupidity. Links are sometimes proffered without comment. Usually contradicting any point attempted, though it’s impossible to be certain. Lacking originality, the NPP avoids attributable positions in favor of thinly masked passive-aggressive squeals.

    The PPP, unlike the NPP, prefers to cut and paste quotes with prominent attribution, ritually simulating scholarly accomplishment in a vomitious mix of undigested tidbits. ‘Umble flattery, like mating scent, is liberally involved. Flustered, the PPP accelerates glib commentary and servile comradeship, symptoms best described as excessive emissions from twin orifices.

    Each species is unable to interpret facts, chronology or sources, much less evaluate complete sentences. Irrational faith in crackpot ideas is commonplace. On rare occasions, the Nocturnal Pedagogic Parrot and Proselytizing Pedagogic Peacock breed, usually with disastrous results.

    Ornithologists advise careful avoidance of both species as notorious wastes of time.

    ‘Copier-coller’, ‘Copier-coller’

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  • @Rurik
    well done Incitatus !

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?
     
    the starvation blockade was only possible because Germany had agreed. based on Wilson's Fourteen Points, to disarm, honorably. And put their fate in the hands of the Allies, who they counted on also to act honorable.

    But the Fourteen Points turned out to be a ruse and the treacherous Allies used the disarmament of Germany as an opportunity to starve her into perpetual slavery and humiliation.

    It was all a betrayal. The whole history of the World Wars are tales of treachery, betrayal and murderous perfidy.

    And speaking of, the reason all of this is salient, is because this is an article about Jewish treachery in bringing the US into perpetual wars for Israel, and this was going on a hundred years ago, exactly as Mr. Freedman points out.

    You see Incitatus, that's why I'm grateful to you for having read and critiqued Mr. Freedman's speech, because the crux of the speech is that American Jews, having made a treacherous deal with England for the status of Palestine, dragged America into a war for Israel. (wow, isn't that getting tiresome by now?)

    And so Germany was betrayed by America and the allies, and then once Germany was in ruins and prostrate, the world's Jews descended upon her, and used their possession of the Federal Reserve Bank to buy up all of Germany's media and institutions and then lord it over the German people, using their children in the infamous brothels of Weimer Berlin. (Weinstein's predatory rapine is child's play compared to the notorious ((Weimar regime))

    So, even as Mr. Giraldi laments the treachery of American Jews, using their ill-gotten lucre to control the institutions of our nation, and drag her into endless wars on the Jew's behalf, this has been going on for over a hundred years! Ever since Woodrow Wilson handed the world's greediest Jews the keys to the US Treasury.

    May he rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.

    or, I'm sure as far as you and the Maven are concerned, he was quite a mensch, right in there with FDR, George Bush and Barak Obama.

    i: “How did Britain, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?”
    r: “…the starvation blockade was only possible because Germany had agreed. based on Wilson’s Fourteen Points, to disarm, honorably…”

    Kindly recall Benjamin Freedman’s assertion

    “World War I broke out in the summer of 1914…Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines…had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic…”

    You’re referring to 1918-19. Sage Freedman – your source – specifically meant December 1916, the date Willie ‘offered’ peace terms. Before, need one say, French mutinies (1917). I’ll skip the Verdun geography lesson and body count. And the specious claim Germany wanted the ‘status quo ante’. Benji fumbled all counts.

    “…the crux of the speech is that American Jews, having made a treacherous deal with England for the status of Palestine, dragged America into a war for Israel.”

    Didn’t read the rest of the speech. It’s pretty clear that’s where Freedman was going. Jews and Israel, Jews and Israel. As you admit, a subject “ getting tiresome.” But some scapegoats never go out of style, do they? Save a lot of time if you simply said as much without the bogus WW1 history. Knock yourself out!

    “May he [Wilson] rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.”

    Tell us how you really feel!

    Rurik, believe what you like. Doesn’t bother me. Have little affection for Wilson (distrust preachers’ sons), but no animus either. Suggest, judging from your tone, you keep antacid close at hand!

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  • @Sam Shama
    Hi Incitatus,
    I admire the industry, the precision, as well the wit and imagery which always find a place in your responses.

    I must believe what you do here is the work of a wise yeoman to warn and thus benefit those unwary souls as might accidentally stumble upon this mostly half-digested often mawkish but always churlish remarks from the Proselytising Peacock and his lot.

    In the midst of reading two excellent titles: Ricks' Churchill and Orwell on your recommendation; and Sebastian Haffner's The Meaning of Hitler. Haffner's book, I recently recalled after it had slipped my mind to purchase a copy of, earned high praise from Hitch in one of his essays collected in the Arguably series.

    Haffner's concision is the quality which caught Hitch's attention, prompting him to call a worthy companion, Haffner's work, for Kershaw's. [The scene from The Silence of Lambs, Hitch writes, when an entomologist having pried out the moth chrysalis from the throat of the mutilated woman, is the ominous insect, well nurtured by someone who loved it, and altogether exact in effect of Hitler's insertion down the throats of the German people in the "..perfect psychological moment"]

    Haffner writes of Munich 1918 as the turning point for Hitler, when the man who earned some praise from unlikely quarters previously, resolved "There must never again be and there will never again be a November 1918 in Germany", coining that intoxicating slogan Dolchstoss.

    P.S. Iffen unearthed a keen review of Mearsheimer and Walt's opus which I read over at Foreign Affairs written by Walter Russell Mead. Have you read it?


    Best.

    Sam,

    The Blattella germanica seem especially active, almost in extremis. Though it’s difficult to be sure with all the spattering guano. Ashamed to admit little more than involuntary agrarian instinct in my posts: shoveling manure back at those so adept at producing it.

    Reasonably sure I read Haffner (library’s in storage). Careful about histories, but individual memoirs are too easily digested. Agree with your:

    “Hitler’s insertion..perfect psychological moment”

    Perfect timing, but too many credit Hitler rather than his context. He had decisive help. Ludendorff and his buddies started the Dolchstoß throwing negotiations to others. Made it easy to deny defeat, evade responsibility, and blame Versailles on civilian treachery, Jews and Freemasons.

    The Reichswehr, Freikorps, and police conspired against Versailles. Hitler thrived in the mix, but his advent was early ‘20s. Ludendorff was still marginally senior partner in the Nov ‘23 Putsch. Dolf emerged dominant from his prison chrysalis ‘24. Peter Range’s ‘1924: the Year That Made Hitler’ is persuasive.

    Ernst Jünger’s ‘Stahlgewittern’ (‘Storm of Steel’) describes a WW1 probably shared by most German veterans. The addiction of comradeship in violence surpassing sense, the daily gamble for triumph or just survival. Two themes: a passion for gambling and unity.

    Hitler’s fondness for risk is well known, oft demonstrated. Unity embeds the German ethos: central to growth, power and expansion. Product of the Franco-Prussian War, but still not all that firm in 1914. Bavaria and Prussia weren’t all that fond of each other. Ullrich and Wawro both describe widespread German and Austrian cathartic euphoria in declaring war 1914. Unity of purpose, us against the world. Riefenstahl’s ‘Triumph des Willens’ highlights individual Gau swearing unity. Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Führer. The rapture of sacrificing finicky individualism for collective animal esprit. The roots of any war (not least Iraq ’03).

    If Hitler wasn’t available, would another have risen to the same tasks? He was brilliant, ambitious and ruthless. But so were those who made him possible. WW1 General Staff (Ludendorff, Hindenberg), Reichswehr, weapons makers like Krupp, industrialists, businessmen, bankers, landed nobility, etc. They were essential. Sectors deeply woven into the Reich tapestry. Most, like Papen, probably thought they could control Hitler. But in the end they were happy for subordinate unity promising profits or prominence.

    Hindenberg betrayed his oath to favor the Nazis. His thumb on the scale made them possible, just as Ludendorff’s smile earlier helped engender Hitler. Hindenberg’s dying wish? Restoration of the monarchy. Unity. The Führereid oath wasn’t demanded by Hitler. Blumberg and Reichenau fell over themselves suggesting it. Unity. Relief from thinking. The Wehrmacht! Strength!

    Aside: Hans Ulrich Rüdel’s ‘Stuka Pilot’ is a WW2 memoir similar to Jünger’s work. Hans was a true believer. Ended up sans legs, a diehard Nazi in South America.

    ‘Churchill & Orwell’ is a fair- if brief – contrast. Amazing men. Biggest surprise:

    “According to one account, when Hitler sent troops into the Rhineland in March 1936, breaking the terms of the Versailles Treaty, the king [Edward VIII] called the German ambassador in London to tell him that he had “given Prime Minister Baldwin “a piece of my mind…I told the old so-and-so that I would abdicate if he ever made war. There was a frightful scene. But you needn’t worry. There won’t be war.”

    Pity Wallis didn’t spin her web sooner. ‘Fiasco’ is still Ricks’ best.

    Hope to get to your economic posts soon (busy days). Sorry for the random thoughts.

    Best

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  • A war with Iran is simply not in the cards.

    Sam — are you sure?

    Concentrated Jew wealth and concentrated Arab wealth and a US president with a hardon for Iran is a prescription for war.

    Israel wants to eliminate Hezbollah in the worst way – if Assad should survive against ISIS then Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon would be a formidable force.

    There is no time like now, for Israel/US to put a stake in that. The window is closing.

    I used to think that Trump was a bastard – but that he was my bastard. He campaigned, saying he was not interested in foreign involvement. That made me feel good. Now it looks like that is the only campaign promise he will not keep. 300,000,000 Gentiles by damned. 5,000,000 Jews and his grandchildren have priority.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. It is painfully obvious that any Iran war would be because of Israel – you US Jews need to stop this.

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  • @Art
    Hey Sam --- sorry to break into this WWII love fest – but what about the Iran nuke treaty?

    Trump has turned over the nuke treaty decision to AIPAC. (America’s self-interest does not have a chance.)

    He thinks Iran’s NO nukes are more dangerous than Israel’s 200 hidden nukes. (How can anyone so important be so wrong – oh’ I know – coercion)

    Jared and Ivanka and children are ecstatic – how about you?

    Think Peace --- Art

    Hi Art,
    Great gusts of hot air from Trump, no doubt with AIPAC’s encouragement, yet all of it likely to amount to nothing. A war with Iran is simply not in the cards. What these people want is to somehow re-introduce economic sanctions on Iran, a mistake in itself, but Trump, I think hates anything that has Obama’s signature on it, and wants to wipe out any and all reminders of his predecessor. Me? A war with Iran would be a terrible folly, every which way.

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    "(Trump) hates anything that has Obama's signature on it."

    Hey Maven Shammy,

    Does Trump hate the $38 billion that Obama agreed to give Israel late last year?

    (A deep State sigh)

    More likely ZUSA President Trump is upset that "Bibi" got short changed by Barack Hussein Obama.

    Selah Gust of Mar a lago hot air & "Chasing Light" Fingers 'Til Debt Do They Part.
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  • @Art
    Hey Sam --- sorry to break into this WWII love fest – but what about the Iran nuke treaty?

    Trump has turned over the nuke treaty decision to AIPAC. (America’s self-interest does not have a chance.)

    He thinks Iran’s NO nukes are more dangerous than Israel’s 200 hidden nukes. (How can anyone so important be so wrong – oh’ I know – coercion)

    Jared and Ivanka and children are ecstatic – how about you?

    Think Peace --- Art

    Brother Art,

    The Maven Sham might be still inside his crypt and Mau not emerge to answer your fair question.

    But here’s how he might reply:

    Art,

    “You slimey Bible Thumper! So Israel has > 200 nuke weapons, eh? Haa haaaa. Get over it! ‘Vae victus’ and screw the UN & A.E.C. inspectors and the prize winning Arabian steeds on which they rode into future Ayatollah-managed Al-Manhattan Project sites! You know deep within your dirty goy heart that with or without AIPAC making Trump’s decertification deal a reality, my tribe still holds the “Sampson” hammer option over the entire eastern Mediterranean basin and there’s big money to be made for all the endarkened Enlightened goyim who eat from the vine of the Jew debt tree
    … blah, blah, blah.”

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  • @Sam Shama
    [I am curious, is mentioning Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski all in the same sentence a “blood libel against the Jews?”]

    Mention them, write about them is disparaging terms to your heart's content. Each one is a pervert.

    Hey Sam — sorry to break into this WWII love fest – but what about the Iran nuke treaty?

    Trump has turned over the nuke treaty decision to AIPAC. (America’s self-interest does not have a chance.)

    He thinks Iran’s NO nukes are more dangerous than Israel’s 200 hidden nukes. (How can anyone so important be so wrong – oh’ I know – coercion)

    Jared and Ivanka and children are ecstatic – how about you?

    Think Peace — Art

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    Brother Art,

    The Maven Sham might be still inside his crypt and Mau not emerge to answer your fair question.

    But here's how he might reply:

    Art,

    "You slimey Bible Thumper! So Israel has > 200 nuke weapons, eh? Haa haaaa. Get over it! 'Vae victus' and screw the UN & A.E.C. inspectors and the prize winning Arabian steeds on which they rode into future Ayatollah-managed Al-Manhattan Project sites! You know deep within your dirty goy heart that with or without AIPAC making Trump's decertification deal a reality, my tribe still holds the "Sampson" hammer option over the entire eastern Mediterranean basin and there's big money to be made for all the endarkened Enlightened goyim who eat from the vine of the Jew debt tree
    ... blah, blah, blah."
    , @Sam Shama
    Hi Art,
    Great gusts of hot air from Trump, no doubt with AIPAC's encouragement, yet all of it likely to amount to nothing. A war with Iran is simply not in the cards. What these people want is to somehow re-introduce economic sanctions on Iran, a mistake in itself, but Trump, I think hates anything that has Obama's signature on it, and wants to wipe out any and all reminders of his predecessor. Me? A war with Iran would be a terrible folly, every which way.
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  • @Rurik
    Hey Brother Chuck,

    it is a great illustration isn't it?

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/600x315/d1/1b/bf/d11bbff4dae2e474ad0d422b879f4e2b.jpg

    and as all that 'Quantitative Easing' lucre is dumped into the Wall Street $lop trough for all the Wall Street pigs to squeal over, the value of our savings is eviscerated and the working poor are bedeviled by rapidly rising prices at the grocery store.

    Not to mention the stock market bubble de jour that will pop, and take with it trillions of dollars of pension money and retirement savings.

    But it's all good, because the 1% are awash in corrupt cash via the Fed, and as always, will profit from people's misery.

    and this is of course as it should be. The middle and working classes must be scourged with inflation and debt and routine lootings of the economy. Good itz!

    just ask the Maven's maven, Kruggy himself. For whom no amount of debt is ever enough. When you're so deep in debt that you're digging to China, then Kruggy as always counsels to 'dig faster'! The solution to your debt, is always more debt! Good it'z!

    Well, Brother Rurik, we may save the ZUSA Department of Homeland Security and FBI a little trouble and oodles of expendable debt-based money by showing this cartoon to the respective Trump administration Directors, White Collar Crime Division. (Sigh)

    But, as the old Carol King song goes, (sigh), “Will Mr. Mueller & Zelikow still love me tomorrow?”

    As you know though, Rurik, the tenacious & ever cunning elite Zionist Jews have “bedeviled” the once respected US government concept of “separation of powers” by secretly separating our 3-Branch system from the Will of The People. (SIGH)

    Thanks for giving the ‘Toon a debt curtain call!

    Selah The (ZUSA) Nationwide Insurance Policy is Always “On Your Side” and EverReady to Loot The Dumb Goyim.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Brother Rurik,

    How the hell do you access such GREAT illustrations such as the one on display in your VALUABLE, awareness-enhancement comment # 1122.

    P.M. "Bibi" would not join hands with fellow elite fiends in support of the FREE SPEECH rights belonging to the artist who created the (modified) "Vampire Squid."

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

    P.S. Looks like this great P.G. article might set a U.R. record for most comments.

    Hey Brother Chuck,

    it is a great illustration isn’t it?

    and as all that ‘Quantitative Easing’ lucre is dumped into the Wall Street $lop trough for all the Wall Street pigs to squeal over, the value of our savings is eviscerated and the working poor are bedeviled by rapidly rising prices at the grocery store.

    Not to mention the stock market bubble de jour that will pop, and take with it trillions of dollars of pension money and retirement savings.

    But it’s all good, because the 1% are awash in corrupt cash via the Fed, and as always, will profit from people’s misery.

    and this is of course as it should be. The middle and working classes must be scourged with inflation and debt and routine lootings of the economy. Good itz!

    just ask the Maven’s maven, Kruggy himself. For whom no amount of debt is ever enough. When you’re so deep in debt that you’re digging to China, then Kruggy as always counsels to ‘dig faster’! The solution to your debt, is always more debt! Good it’z!

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    Well, Brother Rurik, we may save the ZUSA Department of Homeland Security and FBI a little trouble and oodles of expendable debt-based money by showing this cartoon to the respective Trump administration Directors, White Collar Crime Division. (Sigh)

    But, as the old Carol King song goes, (sigh), "Will Mr. Mueller & Zelikow still love me tomorrow?"

    As you know though, Rurik, the tenacious & ever cunning elite Zionist Jews have "bedeviled" the once respected US government concept of "separation of powers" by secretly separating our 3-Branch system from the Will of The People. (SIGH)

    Thanks for giving the 'Toon a debt curtain call!

    Selah The (ZUSA) Nationwide Insurance Policy is Always "On Your Side" and EverReady to Loot The Dumb Goyim.
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  • @Rurik
    well done Incitatus !

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?
     
    the starvation blockade was only possible because Germany had agreed. based on Wilson's Fourteen Points, to disarm, honorably. And put their fate in the hands of the Allies, who they counted on also to act honorable.

    But the Fourteen Points turned out to be a ruse and the treacherous Allies used the disarmament of Germany as an opportunity to starve her into perpetual slavery and humiliation.

    It was all a betrayal. The whole history of the World Wars are tales of treachery, betrayal and murderous perfidy.

    And speaking of, the reason all of this is salient, is because this is an article about Jewish treachery in bringing the US into perpetual wars for Israel, and this was going on a hundred years ago, exactly as Mr. Freedman points out.

    You see Incitatus, that's why I'm grateful to you for having read and critiqued Mr. Freedman's speech, because the crux of the speech is that American Jews, having made a treacherous deal with England for the status of Palestine, dragged America into a war for Israel. (wow, isn't that getting tiresome by now?)

    And so Germany was betrayed by America and the allies, and then once Germany was in ruins and prostrate, the world's Jews descended upon her, and used their possession of the Federal Reserve Bank to buy up all of Germany's media and institutions and then lord it over the German people, using their children in the infamous brothels of Weimer Berlin. (Weinstein's predatory rapine is child's play compared to the notorious ((Weimar regime))

    So, even as Mr. Giraldi laments the treachery of American Jews, using their ill-gotten lucre to control the institutions of our nation, and drag her into endless wars on the Jew's behalf, this has been going on for over a hundred years! Ever since Woodrow Wilson handed the world's greediest Jews the keys to the US Treasury.

    May he rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.

    or, I'm sure as far as you and the Maven are concerned, he was quite a mensch, right in there with FDR, George Bush and Barak Obama.

    May he rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.

    And after that may he be boiled in a cauldron of pig scat. I got that from the Babylonian Talmud, and there’s more.

    I gotta run for a bit.

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  • @Rurik
    well done Incitatus !

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?
     
    the starvation blockade was only possible because Germany had agreed. based on Wilson's Fourteen Points, to disarm, honorably. And put their fate in the hands of the Allies, who they counted on also to act honorable.

    But the Fourteen Points turned out to be a ruse and the treacherous Allies used the disarmament of Germany as an opportunity to starve her into perpetual slavery and humiliation.

    It was all a betrayal. The whole history of the World Wars are tales of treachery, betrayal and murderous perfidy.

    And speaking of, the reason all of this is salient, is because this is an article about Jewish treachery in bringing the US into perpetual wars for Israel, and this was going on a hundred years ago, exactly as Mr. Freedman points out.

    You see Incitatus, that's why I'm grateful to you for having read and critiqued Mr. Freedman's speech, because the crux of the speech is that American Jews, having made a treacherous deal with England for the status of Palestine, dragged America into a war for Israel. (wow, isn't that getting tiresome by now?)

    And so Germany was betrayed by America and the allies, and then once Germany was in ruins and prostrate, the world's Jews descended upon her, and used their possession of the Federal Reserve Bank to buy up all of Germany's media and institutions and then lord it over the German people, using their children in the infamous brothels of Weimer Berlin. (Weinstein's predatory rapine is child's play compared to the notorious ((Weimar regime))

    So, even as Mr. Giraldi laments the treachery of American Jews, using their ill-gotten lucre to control the institutions of our nation, and drag her into endless wars on the Jew's behalf, this has been going on for over a hundred years! Ever since Woodrow Wilson handed the world's greediest Jews the keys to the US Treasury.

    May he rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.

    or, I'm sure as far as you and the Maven are concerned, he was quite a mensch, right in there with FDR, George Bush and Barak Obama.

    Rurik, you are tops, my man! I admire your stamina, persisting, against ALL odds to reason with a willfully ignorant quadruped.

    Bless you!

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  • @jacques sheete
    Sam and the rest of the herd seem to be trying desperately to apply the lessons in the Luntz technique, but it's evident they're going to need a lot more practice. Too bad for them that they've managed to shut down any serious discussion as they've outed themselves as unpolished frauds.

    Every one of the 112 pages in the [Luntz] booklet is marked "not for distribution or publication" and it is easy to see why. The Luntz report, officially entitled "The Israel project's 2009 Global Language Dictionary, was leaked almost immediately to Newsweek Online, but its true importance has seldom been appreciated. It should be required reading for everybody, especially journalists, interested in any aspect of Israeli policy because of its "dos and don'ts" for Israeli spokesmen.

    These are highly illuminating about the gap between what Israeli officials and politicians really believe, and what they say, the latter shaped in minute detail by polling to determine what Americans want to hear.

    -Patrick Cockburn The secret report that helps Israel hide facts
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israel-gaza-conflict-the-secret-report-that-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html
     

    hey Jacques, this scene reminds me of you on this forum

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  • @Incitatus
    RootenTootenRurik!

    What a pleasure! Excuse the delay. Had to put on my hip-waders in anticipation of the tears. Thanks for holding them back!

    “what a lowlife POS”
    “WTF are you doing here anyways?”
    “now you’re slinking back in here, and making a mockery of yourself”
    “now go read and learn something”
     
    Temper, temper! The stench of sulphur’s showing. Remember the NiceNazis perfumed invitation?

    “No name calling, level playing field debate here.”
     
    Sheesh. Embarrassed to have tell a humanitarian like you. It’s like a tilt sign warning you’re morphing into mini-JR. Vomiting pejoratives indeed!

    On second thought, should that be added to your SuperPowers? Uncontrollable coprophagic ejection? Goes well with rivers of tears, pious whines and sauerkraut, doesn’t it? Let us know.

    “…didn’t I give you an assignment?”
     
    Sincere apologies. Waited for you to deliver your long-held promise:

    “...if the Nazis burned women and children alive for the fun of it, then by God I tell you I would condemn them with all of my breath...”
     
    Short-winded? Competing with Dolf in the ‘promises made, promises broken’ olympiad?

    Went this far in Freedman’s speech:

    “World War I broke out in the summer of 1914…Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines...had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic...Britain stood there without ammunition...with one week's food supply facing...starvation.”

    “At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000...[at] Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home...And the Italian army had collapsed.”

    “...not a shot had been fired on the German soil...And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms...a negotiated peace..[on] status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.”
     
    Benji’s a little short in the facts department.

    • Germany “won it actually”? Willie sleep through the Allied surrender? Von Moltke wrote “Things have not gone well...and we shall have to pay for the damage we have done” 9 Sep ‘14. Sound like a victory paean?

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?

    • The French Army didn’t mutiny.

    • Verdun isn’t on the Somme, it’s on the Meuse.

    • France lost ±300,000 poilus at Verdun. Germany lost equally. Nitwit von Falkenhayn (sacked 29 Aug ‘16) slaughtered ±300,000 of his own men! QED Willie’s peace overture.

    • Germany dropped it’s peace offer when the Allies sought withdrawal from occupied territories, reparations, and respect for principles of nationality. Willie wanted to keep occupied territory and escape financial responsibility. Willie did not want to return “everything...as it was before the war started.”

    That’s where I stopped. What’s the point? Benji sounds a lot like you. Suppose that’s backwards. You sound a lot like him and just as knowledgeable. You’re not a soapmaker by any chance?

    OK, I admit anti-Zionist Jewish holocaust-denier apostate revisionists are rare. And sweet prizes for such as you. How can Jews defend themselves from their own (wink, wink)? Pity he’s as accurate as a stopped clock. But do carry on. No doubt he’ll help your Fourth Reich peace crusade. Like Betty Parris or Abigail Williams helped Cotton Mather in Salem. Got your tree picked out, Reverend?

    Best to the asylum staff. You must really keep them busy!

    well done Incitatus !

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?

    the starvation blockade was only possible because Germany had agreed. based on Wilson’s Fourteen Points, to disarm, honorably. And put their fate in the hands of the Allies, who they counted on also to act honorable.

    But the Fourteen Points turned out to be a ruse and the treacherous Allies used the disarmament of Germany as an opportunity to starve her into perpetual slavery and humiliation.

    It was all a betrayal. The whole history of the World Wars are tales of treachery, betrayal and murderous perfidy.

    And speaking of, the reason all of this is salient, is because this is an article about Jewish treachery in bringing the US into perpetual wars for Israel, and this was going on a hundred years ago, exactly as Mr. Freedman points out.

    You see Incitatus, that’s why I’m grateful to you for having read and critiqued Mr. Freedman’s speech, because the crux of the speech is that American Jews, having made a treacherous deal with England for the status of Palestine, dragged America into a war for Israel. (wow, isn’t that getting tiresome by now?)

    And so Germany was betrayed by America and the allies, and then once Germany was in ruins and prostrate, the world’s Jews descended upon her, and used their possession of the Federal Reserve Bank to buy up all of Germany’s media and institutions and then lord it over the German people, using their children in the infamous brothels of Weimer Berlin. (Weinstein’s predatory rapine is child’s play compared to the notorious ((Weimar regime))

    So, even as Mr. Giraldi laments the treachery of American Jews, using their ill-gotten lucre to control the institutions of our nation, and drag her into endless wars on the Jew’s behalf, this has been going on for over a hundred years! Ever since Woodrow Wilson handed the world’s greediest Jews the keys to the US Treasury.

    May he rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.

    or, I’m sure as far as you and the Maven are concerned, he was quite a mensch, right in there with FDR, George Bush and Barak Obama.

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    Rurik, you are tops, my man! I admire your stamina, persisting, against ALL odds to reason with a willfully ignorant quadruped.

    Bless you!
    , @jacques sheete

    May he rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.
     
    And after that may he be boiled in a cauldron of pig scat. I got that from the Babylonian Talmud, and there's more.

    I gotta run for a bit.
    , @Incitatus

    i: “How did Britain, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?”
    r: “...the starvation blockade was only possible because Germany had agreed. based on Wilson’s Fourteen Points, to disarm, honorably...”
     
    Kindly recall Benjamin Freedman’s assertion

    “World War I broke out in the summer of 1914…Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines...had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic...”
     
    You’re referring to 1918-19. Sage Freedman - your source - specifically meant December 1916, the date Willie ‘offered’ peace terms. Before, need one say, French mutinies (1917). I’ll skip the Verdun geography lesson and body count. And the specious claim Germany wanted the ‘status quo ante’. Benji fumbled all counts.

    “...the crux of the speech is that American Jews, having made a treacherous deal with England for the status of Palestine, dragged America into a war for Israel.”
     
    Didn’t read the rest of the speech. It’s pretty clear that’s where Freedman was going. Jews and Israel, Jews and Israel. As you admit, a subject “ getting tiresome.” But some scapegoats never go out of style, do they? Save a lot of time if you simply said as much without the bogus WW1 history. Knock yourself out!

    “May he [Wilson] rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.”
     
    Tell us how you really feel!

    Rurik, believe what you like. Doesn’t bother me. Have little affection for Wilson (distrust preachers’ sons), but no animus either. Suggest, judging from your tone, you keep antacid close at hand!
    , @jacques sheete

    You see Incitatus, that’s why I’m grateful to you for having read and critiqued Mr. Freedman’s speech,
     
    I highly doubt he read it. Me may have scanned it looking for things to pick apart and subject to mockery, but the evidence has long been that they don't give a damn about facts or the truth unless they can twist such things to their own perversions.

    The Shamsters are on the losing side, and like dying snakes, twist and turn in failed attempts to save themselves.

    It's almost enough to tempt a person to pity them.
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  • @Sam Shama
    I rarely conduct the business of life guided by aphorisms. They are fine enough for that odd moment here and there, or to impress the impressionable at cocktail parties, but remember, my dear anonymous, life demands things done; where only the chairbound propose we do them aphoristically. Reality always intrudes. What I prefer are facts, and the facts are those which count the great weight of scholarship and research as kindred.

    That is what I admire about Incitatus' posts. If you have a position which contradicts his, write of it, using your own lexicon not inundated by 'copier-coller' cut-n-paste. Then, and only then, do we know we have a debate worthy of pursuit.

    Among the topics we discussed here, are many items of history; and history, as you know, is the privilege claimed by the victors. Even aphorisms of great age, e.g. ones from the pre-common era, now in the realm more of myth, rather than history, and invoked by those who would self-indulgently claim great wisdom and lofty morals, were but the tales and axioms of the victor.

    Find me a history and I shall show you the winner. And the 'Truth' which so eludes the Lost.

    “Find me a history and I shall show you a winner.”

    Hey Maven Shammy and InZitatus,

    You two plumed birds “of a feather” should peruse Nir Rosen’ s great travel history, “In The Belly of the Green Bird.”

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0743277031/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508152294&sr=1-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=nir+rosen+belly+of+the+green+bird&dpPl=1&dpID=51DgLRQTMhL&ref=plSrch

    (A deep dumb goyim stoned sigh)

    Selah also the triumph of the martyr Saint Stephen.

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  • @alternatereality
    the way Jews teach their children to shill for Israel -- drill them in the Luntz methods of propaganda -- sorta indicates that the title to Giraldi's original article was not off the mark.

    It's about JEWS -- Giraldi did some gentlemanly and scholarly work in refining the offensive agents to a defined circle, but as long as Jews teach their children crap like The Holocaust, and teach them to lie and create hatred toward other people, like they do regarding Iran, Palestinians, and Arabs -- and Christians -- then generalizations like "Jews" is not only acceptable and accurate, it's necessary.

    Sam and the rest of the herd seem to be trying desperately to apply the lessons in the Luntz technique, but it’s evident they’re going to need a lot more practice. Too bad for them that they’ve managed to shut down any serious discussion as they’ve outed themselves as unpolished frauds.

    Every one of the 112 pages in the [Luntz] booklet is marked “not for distribution or publication” and it is easy to see why. The Luntz report, officially entitled “The Israel project’s 2009 Global Language Dictionary, was leaked almost immediately to Newsweek Online, but its true importance has seldom been appreciated. It should be required reading for everybody, especially journalists, interested in any aspect of Israeli policy because of its “dos and don’ts” for Israeli spokesmen.

    These are highly illuminating about the gap between what Israeli officials and politicians really believe, and what they say, the latter shaped in minute detail by polling to determine what Americans want to hear.

    -Patrick Cockburn The secret report that helps Israel hide facts

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israel-gaza-conflict-the-secret-report-that-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html

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    hey Jacques, this scene reminds me of you on this forum

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NnyVc8r2SM
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  • We’ve been informed that debt is good.

    Maybe so, but who needs it?

    Despite a brutal U.S. blockade on food, finance and technology, and without incurring debt,Mao grew China’s economy by an average of 7.3 percent annually, compared to America’s postwar boom years’ 3.7 percent.

    -GODFREE ROBERTS, Mao Reconsidered

    http://www.unz.com/article/mao-reconsidered/#comment-2045228

    One wonders whether the Jughead’s fabulous intuition still holds. Maybe he paid tuition to the wrong skool…
    Wa haa haa haa!

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  • @anonymous
    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
    He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple. Teach him.
    He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
    He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise. Follow him.


    The 2- or 4-legged creature is a point-scorer, not a serious seeker of wisdom.

    Not worth arguing with -- a fool, flee him.

    One notices that Sam Shama bends the knee -- or four of them -- to what he assesses as the ass's wisdom.

    How to assess that form of assitude not even the Persian aphorism can comprehend.

    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
    He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple. Teach him.
    He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
    He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise. Follow him.

    He who knows but preaches lies is a deceiver. Mock him.

    “Debt is good” is not the whole truth. Anyone who preaches that is either stupid or a deceiver or both. I wonder if our Maven wrote it with a straight face or an evil cackle…

    It’s pretty funny stuff either way.

    More humor.: Krugman admires Hume.

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  • Sammy’s back!

    Is he still preaching his “Debt is good” mantra?

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  • @Art
    Say Sam ---- can we get past Hitler for a minute or two.

    I am curious, is mentioning Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski all in the same sentence a “blood libel against the Jews?”

    Just asking!

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Woody is sad that Weinstein is having these troubles (am sure that all 15,000,000 Jews feel that same way).

    p.s. You can go back to your WWII diversion tactics now.

    [I am curious, is mentioning Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski all in the same sentence a “blood libel against the Jews?”]

    Mention them, write about them is disparaging terms to your heart’s content. Each one is a pervert.

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    Hey Sam --- sorry to break into this WWII love fest – but what about the Iran nuke treaty?

    Trump has turned over the nuke treaty decision to AIPAC. (America’s self-interest does not have a chance.)

    He thinks Iran’s NO nukes are more dangerous than Israel’s 200 hidden nukes. (How can anyone so important be so wrong – oh’ I know – coercion)

    Jared and Ivanka and children are ecstatic – how about you?

    Think Peace --- Art
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  • @SolontoCroesus
    It's almost amusing how so many people are obsessed with Hitler and feel compelled to psychoanalyze his 72-years dead corpse; they poke and probe his incorporeal psyche all the while avoiding like bacon on their bagels inconvenient realities, like the extent of Jewish financing that enabled Hitler to buy all those colorful banners and shiny black boots.

    It's like a confession of the near-total falsity of the ordained narrative.

    Sad, really. Or maybe pathetic.
    The greater the attempt to diminish and demonize the long-dead demon, the more is revealed of their own daemons.

    Anyone who's ever dealt with petty crooks understands that the thief thinks the swaggering front he displays conceals from existence and notice the purloined goods he's shoved in his back pocket.
    The unnatural bulge was the first thing the detective noticed.

    [It’s almost amusing how so many people are obsessed with Hitler ]

    You don’t say!

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  • @Sam Shama
    Hi Incitatus,
    I admire the industry, the precision, as well the wit and imagery which always find a place in your responses.

    I must believe what you do here is the work of a wise yeoman to warn and thus benefit those unwary souls as might accidentally stumble upon this mostly half-digested often mawkish but always churlish remarks from the Proselytising Peacock and his lot.

    In the midst of reading two excellent titles: Ricks' Churchill and Orwell on your recommendation; and Sebastian Haffner's The Meaning of Hitler. Haffner's book, I recently recalled after it had slipped my mind to purchase a copy of, earned high praise from Hitch in one of his essays collected in the Arguably series.

    Haffner's concision is the quality which caught Hitch's attention, prompting him to call a worthy companion, Haffner's work, for Kershaw's. [The scene from The Silence of Lambs, Hitch writes, when an entomologist having pried out the moth chrysalis from the throat of the mutilated woman, is the ominous insect, well nurtured by someone who loved it, and altogether exact in effect of Hitler's insertion down the throats of the German people in the "..perfect psychological moment"]

    Haffner writes of Munich 1918 as the turning point for Hitler, when the man who earned some praise from unlikely quarters previously, resolved "There must never again be and there will never again be a November 1918 in Germany", coining that intoxicating slogan Dolchstoss.

    P.S. Iffen unearthed a keen review of Mearsheimer and Walt's opus which I read over at Foreign Affairs written by Walter Russell Mead. Have you read it?


    Best.

    Say Sam —- can we get past Hitler for a minute or two.

    I am curious, is mentioning Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski all in the same sentence a “blood libel against the Jews?”

    Just asking!

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Woody is sad that Weinstein is having these troubles (am sure that all 15,000,000 Jews feel that same way).

    p.s. You can go back to your WWII diversion tactics now.

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    [I am curious, is mentioning Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski all in the same sentence a “blood libel against the Jews?”]

    Mention them, write about them is disparaging terms to your heart's content. Each one is a pervert.
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  • @anonymous
    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
    He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple. Teach him.
    He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
    He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise. Follow him.


    The 2- or 4-legged creature is a point-scorer, not a serious seeker of wisdom.

    Not worth arguing with -- a fool, flee him.

    One notices that Sam Shama bends the knee -- or four of them -- to what he assesses as the ass's wisdom.

    How to assess that form of assitude not even the Persian aphorism can comprehend.

    I rarely conduct the business of life guided by aphorisms. They are fine enough for that odd moment here and there, or to impress the impressionable at cocktail parties, but remember, my dear anonymous, life demands things done; where only the chairbound propose we do them aphoristically. Reality always intrudes. What I prefer are facts, and the facts are those which count the great weight of scholarship and research as kindred.

    That is what I admire about Incitatus’ posts. If you have a position which contradicts his, write of it, using your own lexicon not inundated by ‘copier-coller’ cut-n-paste. Then, and only then, do we know we have a debate worthy of pursuit.

    Among the topics we discussed here, are many items of history; and history, as you know, is the privilege claimed by the victors. Even aphorisms of great age, e.g. ones from the pre-common era, now in the realm more of myth, rather than history, and invoked by those who would self-indulgently claim great wisdom and lofty morals, were but the tales and axioms of the victor.

    Find me a history and I shall show you the winner. And the ‘Truth’ which so eludes the Lost.

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    "Find me a history and I shall show you a winner."

    Hey Maven Shammy and InZitatus,

    You two plumed birds "of a feather" should peruse Nir Rosen' s great travel history, "In The Belly of the Green Bird."

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0743277031/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508152294&sr=1-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=nir+rosen+belly+of+the+green+bird&dpPl=1&dpID=51DgLRQTMhL&ref=plSrch

    (A deep dumb goyim stoned sigh)

    Selah also the triumph of the martyr Saint Stephen.
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  • @SolontoCroesus
    I AM laughing!!

    The PCR link is great, ChuckOrloski, thanks for passing it along.

    Synchronize your Mickey Mouse watches -- everybody LAUGH OUT LOUD !

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/13/time-for-a-laugh/

    Plus, I bought burkas for me to wear when I shop or travel.
    Everyone moves out of the way, and security can’t pat me down.
    If they say I’m a male wearing a burka, I just say I’m feeling like a
    woman today.

    Even better, all he has to do to have free access to probably any building in D.C.and the nearby Pentagon is wear a yarmulke or maybe a shel rosh.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    (Sigh)

    I let Little iffen-iffen go into O.T. to answer Paul C.'s good & plain spoken question.

    (Sigh) Remember that popular ZUSA TV game show called "Who wants to be a millionaire?"

    Well at times, when excited contestants had to make a big decision, & prior to committing to a "final answer," the host would allow them to make one (1) telephone call to either a wise friend or a "significant other."

    (SIGH)

    Right now, & in order to make an approved reply to Paul C.' question, Little iffen-iffen is likely awaiting a text/email from his "significant other," The Maven Shama.

    Oh well, Jacques, we had a good rumble here on P.G.'s article, and I suggest a station break which features a good Zio Matrix-MOCKING laugh which was passed on by Paul Craig Roberts. Refer to link below?

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/13/time-for-a-laugh/

    My thanks in particular to you and Paul C.

    Selah Who Wants To Be Sheldon Adelson?

    Oh well, Jacques, we had a good rumble here on P.G.’s article,

    Thank you! I learned a lot, and had many more of my suspicions confirmed, so it’s not only been fun but worthwhile.

    Nahum 3

    3 Woe to the city of blood,
    full of lies,
    full of plunder,
    never without victims!
    5 “I am against you,” declares the Lord Almighty.
    “I will lift your skirts over your face.
    I will show the nations your nakedness
    and the kingdoms your shame.
    19 Nothing can heal you;
    your wound is fatal.
    All who hear the news about you
    clap their hands at your fall,

    The Lord Almighty didn’t even have to lift a finger to show what they were made of; they did it all themselves, and it’s a wretched sight indeed!

    I’m sure hasbara central sent their “best” attack dogs and it shows that the “emperor” has no clothes. Must be scraping the bottom of the hasbarrel.

    This fits’em perfectly. They even make “anti-Semitic” comments against Atzmon and Weiss et. al.

    Introduction by Gilad Atzmon: We are all aware of the Hasbara trolls, the Wikipedia Jews and the Israeli Neocon smear outlets. In the following important piece internet expert Jonathon Blakeley explores the vile and destructive impact of Sayanim and Hasbara agents on the social networks. What we really see is a surge of Zio-centric anti- social behaviour in our midst. They are united against humanity, humanism, pluralism, freedom of expression and tolerance basically all those things that are precious to the rest of us.

    http://www.zimoz.co.uk/news/elite/a-guide-to-hasbara-trolls/

    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/The-Goyim-Guide-to-Hasbara-Trolls-from-Jonathon-Blakeley22nov11.shtml

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    (Sigh)

    I let Little iffen-iffen go into O.T. to answer Paul C.'s good & plain spoken question.

    (Sigh) Remember that popular ZUSA TV game show called "Who wants to be a millionaire?"

    Well at times, when excited contestants had to make a big decision, & prior to committing to a "final answer," the host would allow them to make one (1) telephone call to either a wise friend or a "significant other."

    (SIGH)

    Right now, & in order to make an approved reply to Paul C.' question, Little iffen-iffen is likely awaiting a text/email from his "significant other," The Maven Shama.

    Oh well, Jacques, we had a good rumble here on P.G.'s article, and I suggest a station break which features a good Zio Matrix-MOCKING laugh which was passed on by Paul Craig Roberts. Refer to link below?

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/13/time-for-a-laugh/

    My thanks in particular to you and Paul C.

    Selah Who Wants To Be Sheldon Adelson?

    I AM laughing!!

    The PCR link is great, ChuckOrloski, thanks for passing it along.

    Synchronize your Mickey Mouse watches — everybody LAUGH OUT LOUD !

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/13/time-for-a-laugh/

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    Plus, I bought burkas for me to wear when I shop or travel.
    Everyone moves out of the way, and security can’t pat me down.
    If they say I’m a male wearing a burka, I just say I’m feeling like a
    woman today.
     
    Even better, all he has to do to have free access to probably any building in D.C.and the nearby Pentagon is wear a yarmulke or maybe a shel rosh.
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  • @Sam Shama
    Hi Incitatus,
    I admire the industry, the precision, as well the wit and imagery which always find a place in your responses.

    I must believe what you do here is the work of a wise yeoman to warn and thus benefit those unwary souls as might accidentally stumble upon this mostly half-digested often mawkish but always churlish remarks from the Proselytising Peacock and his lot.

    In the midst of reading two excellent titles: Ricks' Churchill and Orwell on your recommendation; and Sebastian Haffner's The Meaning of Hitler. Haffner's book, I recently recalled after it had slipped my mind to purchase a copy of, earned high praise from Hitch in one of his essays collected in the Arguably series.

    Haffner's concision is the quality which caught Hitch's attention, prompting him to call a worthy companion, Haffner's work, for Kershaw's. [The scene from The Silence of Lambs, Hitch writes, when an entomologist having pried out the moth chrysalis from the throat of the mutilated woman, is the ominous insect, well nurtured by someone who loved it, and altogether exact in effect of Hitler's insertion down the throats of the German people in the "..perfect psychological moment"]

    Haffner writes of Munich 1918 as the turning point for Hitler, when the man who earned some praise from unlikely quarters previously, resolved "There must never again be and there will never again be a November 1918 in Germany", coining that intoxicating slogan Dolchstoss.

    P.S. Iffen unearthed a keen review of Mearsheimer and Walt's opus which I read over at Foreign Affairs written by Walter Russell Mead. Have you read it?


    Best.

    It’s almost amusing how so many people are obsessed with Hitler and feel compelled to psychoanalyze his 72-years dead corpse; they poke and probe his incorporeal psyche all the while avoiding like bacon on their bagels inconvenient realities, like the extent of Jewish financing that enabled Hitler to buy all those colorful banners and shiny black boots.

    It’s like a confession of the near-total falsity of the ordained narrative.

    Sad, really. Or maybe pathetic.
    The greater the attempt to diminish and demonize the long-dead demon, the more is revealed of their own daemons.

    Anyone who’s ever dealt with petty crooks understands that the thief thinks the swaggering front he displays conceals from existence and notice the purloined goods he’s shoved in his back pocket.
    The unnatural bulge was the first thing the detective noticed.

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    [It’s almost amusing how so many people are obsessed with Hitler ]

    You don't say!
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  • @anonymous
    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
    He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple. Teach him.
    He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
    He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise. Follow him.


    The 2- or 4-legged creature is a point-scorer, not a serious seeker of wisdom.

    Not worth arguing with -- a fool, flee him.

    One notices that Sam Shama bends the knee -- or four of them -- to what he assesses as the ass's wisdom.

    How to assess that form of assitude not even the Persian aphorism can comprehend.

    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.

    For that reason I dismissed the horse, the Dizzard, and eff’n some time ago. I now’ve included the Shamster, who’s shown himself to be a pompous fake. All mouth, no sense.

    One notices that Sam Shama bends the knee — or four of them — to what he assesses as the ass’s wisdom.

    I wouldn’t know, but thanks for letting me know. Glad I decided not to waste any time responding directly to that crew.

    Can you imagine? Recommending that we read Krugman to gain knowledge about debt. I bet one can read his garbage for free on line if he can stand the stench. I bet it’s worth every penny as well, so I hope no one need get into debt to do it.

    I’m still laughing, and no doubt shall for some time.

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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete
    Did the cow that gave itself a horsey name really say,

    The French Army didn’t mutiny.
     
    ????

    That's as hilarious as it is preposterous, Every 6th grader knows that they did. I bet even Wiki, the cow's favorite source, even admits to it.

    The shamasters are too funny.

    At least with their joking they've cured any bitterness I've ever had!

    Bless you all!

    Remember gang, we've been told that "Debt is good!" by one who's "studied" debt by reading the "intuitive" Krugman in the WSJ. Wow! Impressive , eh?

    Hehehehe!

    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
    He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple. Teach him.
    He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
    He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise. Follow him.

    The 2- or 4-legged creature is a point-scorer, not a serious seeker of wisdom.

    Not worth arguing with — a fool, flee him.

    One notices that Sam Shama bends the knee — or four of them — to what he assesses as the ass’s wisdom.

    How to assess that form of assitude not even the Persian aphorism can comprehend.

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    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
     
    For that reason I dismissed the horse, the Dizzard, and eff'n some time ago. I now've included the Shamster, who's shown himself to be a pompous fake. All mouth, no sense.

    One notices that Sam Shama bends the knee — or four of them — to what he assesses as the ass’s wisdom.
     
    I wouldn't know, but thanks for letting me know. Glad I decided not to waste any time responding directly to that crew.

    Can you imagine? Recommending that we read Krugman to gain knowledge about debt. I bet one can read his garbage for free on line if he can stand the stench. I bet it's worth every penny as well, so I hope no one need get into debt to do it.

    I'm still laughing, and no doubt shall for some time.
    , @Sam Shama
    I rarely conduct the business of life guided by aphorisms. They are fine enough for that odd moment here and there, or to impress the impressionable at cocktail parties, but remember, my dear anonymous, life demands things done; where only the chairbound propose we do them aphoristically. Reality always intrudes. What I prefer are facts, and the facts are those which count the great weight of scholarship and research as kindred.

    That is what I admire about Incitatus' posts. If you have a position which contradicts his, write of it, using your own lexicon not inundated by 'copier-coller' cut-n-paste. Then, and only then, do we know we have a debate worthy of pursuit.

    Among the topics we discussed here, are many items of history; and history, as you know, is the privilege claimed by the victors. Even aphorisms of great age, e.g. ones from the pre-common era, now in the realm more of myth, rather than history, and invoked by those who would self-indulgently claim great wisdom and lofty morals, were but the tales and axioms of the victor.

    Find me a history and I shall show you the winner. And the 'Truth' which so eludes the Lost.

    , @jacques sheete
    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
    He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple. Teach him.
    He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
    He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise. Follow him.

    He who knows but preaches lies is a deceiver. Mock him.

    "Debt is good" is not the whole truth. Anyone who preaches that is either stupid or a deceiver or both. I wonder if our Maven wrote it with a straight face or an evil cackle...

    It's pretty funny stuff either way.

    More humor.: Krugman admires Hume.

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  • @jacques sheete
    They always avoid the real issues. They think they're clever by doing everything but answer anything honestly. It's a game. Their main tool is employing strawmen then mocking folks. Fun to witness but waste of time overall.

    They have nothing else.

    But never mind, they have it all figured out for us goyim.

    (Sigh)

    I let Little iffen-iffen go into O.T. to answer Paul C.’s good & plain spoken question.

    (Sigh) Remember that popular ZUSA TV game show called “Who wants to be a millionaire?”

    Well at times, when excited contestants had to make a big decision, & prior to committing to a “final answer,” the host would allow them to make one (1) telephone call to either a wise friend or a “significant other.”

    (SIGH)

    Right now, & in order to make an approved reply to Paul C.’ question, Little iffen-iffen is likely awaiting a text/email from his “significant other,” The Maven Shama.

    Oh well, Jacques, we had a good rumble here on P.G.’s article, and I suggest a station break which features a good Zio Matrix-MOCKING laugh which was passed on by Paul Craig Roberts. Refer to link below?

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/13/time-for-a-laugh/

    My thanks in particular to you and Paul C.

    Selah Who Wants To Be Sheldon Adelson?

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    I AM laughing!!

    The PCR link is great, ChuckOrloski, thanks for passing it along.

    Synchronize your Mickey Mouse watches -- everybody LAUGH OUT LOUD !

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/13/time-for-a-laugh/
    , @jacques sheete

    Oh well, Jacques, we had a good rumble here on P.G.’s article,
     
    Thank you! I learned a lot, and had many more of my suspicions confirmed, so it's not only been fun but worthwhile.

    Nahum 3

    3 Woe to the city of blood,
    full of lies,
    full of plunder,
    never without victims!
    5 “I am against you,” declares the Lord Almighty.
    “I will lift your skirts over your face.
    I will show the nations your nakedness
    and the kingdoms your shame.
    19 Nothing can heal you;
    your wound is fatal.
    All who hear the news about you
    clap their hands at your fall,


    The Lord Almighty didn't even have to lift a finger to show what they were made of; they did it all themselves, and it's a wretched sight indeed!


    I'm sure hasbara central sent their "best" attack dogs and it shows that the "emperor" has no clothes. Must be scraping the bottom of the hasbarrel.

    This fits'em perfectly. They even make "anti-Semitic" comments against Atzmon and Weiss et. al.


    Introduction by Gilad Atzmon: We are all aware of the Hasbara trolls, the Wikipedia Jews and the Israeli Neocon smear outlets. In the following important piece internet expert Jonathon Blakeley explores the vile and destructive impact of Sayanim and Hasbara agents on the social networks. What we really see is a surge of Zio-centric anti- social behaviour in our midst. They are united against humanity, humanism, pluralism, freedom of expression and tolerance basically all those things that are precious to the rest of us.

    http://www.zimoz.co.uk/news/elite/a-guide-to-hasbara-trolls/
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/The-Goyim-Guide-to-Hasbara-Trolls-from-Jonathon-Blakeley22nov11.shtml
     
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  • @Paul C.
    I noticed you didn't address Geokat's comment. Do you support the killing of innocents for Israel?

    They always avoid the real issues. They think they’re clever by doing everything but answer anything honestly. It’s a game. Their main tool is employing strawmen then mocking folks. Fun to witness but waste of time overall.

    They have nothing else.

    But never mind, they have it all figured out for us goyim.

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    (Sigh)

    I let Little iffen-iffen go into O.T. to answer Paul C.'s good & plain spoken question.

    (Sigh) Remember that popular ZUSA TV game show called "Who wants to be a millionaire?"

    Well at times, when excited contestants had to make a big decision, & prior to committing to a "final answer," the host would allow them to make one (1) telephone call to either a wise friend or a "significant other."

    (SIGH)

    Right now, & in order to make an approved reply to Paul C.' question, Little iffen-iffen is likely awaiting a text/email from his "significant other," The Maven Shama.

    Oh well, Jacques, we had a good rumble here on P.G.'s article, and I suggest a station break which features a good Zio Matrix-MOCKING laugh which was passed on by Paul Craig Roberts. Refer to link below?

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/13/time-for-a-laugh/

    My thanks in particular to you and Paul C.

    Selah Who Wants To Be Sheldon Adelson?
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  • @iffen
    Try wrapping your PEAbrain around that, dude.

    You were the one that made the appeal to morality, not me.


    a political/moral cleansing
     
    Can't you keep up with your argument?

    I noticed you didn’t address Geokat’s comment. Do you support the killing of innocents for Israel?

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    They always avoid the real issues. They think they're clever by doing everything but answer anything honestly. It's a game. Their main tool is employing strawmen then mocking folks. Fun to witness but waste of time overall.

    They have nothing else.

    But never mind, they have it all figured out for us goyim.
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  • After reading my buddy, Sam’s always “brilliant” comments, I wondered if “intuition” was the secret to his brilliance in his own mind, since intelligence and education were obviously not, so this dumb goy, (me), went to “Bro Gnat” for an answer.

    Bro Gnat you say? That’s the anti-Semitic term Sammy used for Bro Nathaniel. Here’s what he had to say.

    The Riddle Of Jewish Success

    What do you think? I, being a dumb goy, will wait til I read it in Krugman, the Messiah. That way I won’t have to think. Good thing I’m at least marginally literate, hunh?

    ‘Bye sweet bitterness
    Your company’s
    something I will miss!

    Cuz the Shamsters make me laugh!

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  • @Incitatus

    Ah, golden plumage
    Spread in fan array

    chain mail chin
    beak foamed in spray

    Strut and flutter
    Wheel and mutter

    words shower
    stutter, stutter

    Ah, the call of 'umbleness
    ‘Copier-coller’, ‘Copier-coller’

    -Ode to the Proselytizing Pedagogic Peacock
     
    Known to nest in dark internet corners, the PPP is famous for randomly spattering half digested quotes from a wide variety of sources - most unread and nearly all beyond it’s understanding. It accomplishes this in a ritual of self-admiration, displaying plumes of scholarly condescension, proud strutting, and granite-like intelligence.

    Adolescent PPPs oft can’t spell their own names. Corrected, they usually sputter in fits of pique:

    Q: “btw shouldn’t ‘Jacues’ be spelled ‘Jacques’?”

    PPP: "At one time it was, but your mention of it is as irrelevant as it is petty. Anyway it’s about time you became aware that it’s pretty common for folks to vary things a little.”

    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/who-got-us-into-these-endless-wars/#comment-1526974
     
    Servile flattery attracts PPP admirers, while vomitous plagiarism keeps them hypnotically awash in undigested, borrowed thinking. Poor comprehension or outright stupidity is no impediment:

    “Such “anti-federalist” arguments were and are as correct and prescient as they are compelling. One of my favorite pieces is…Brutus (aka Robert Yates) ‘To the Citizens of the State of New-York’ 18 October 1787…I’d like to add further that I’m sure Adolph Hitler would have agreed with most, if not all, and that’s evidence that he wasn’t the evil that Allied propaganda would have us all believing to this day.”

    http://www.unz.com/freed/general-lee-speaks-had-it-figured-out/#comment-1904438
     
    Anti-federalist, states rights Yates embraced by a dictator who abolished states rights? No problem for the PPP, whose pretentious sagacity oft masks foul (fowl) Teutonic odors!

    Naturally, the Proselytizing Pedagogic Peacock, like the Dodo, is earth bound and, for all practical purposes, extinct. Rare examples existent post legendary quantities of commentary, some over 282,000 words (‘Brave New World’ counts just 64,531)! Of course, many words - if not most - are ‘borrowed’ quotes.

    This bird is remarkable to behold, but observers should beware it’s neurotic habits.

    Ah, the call of ’umbleness
    ‘Copier-coller’, ‘Copier-coller’

    Hi Incitatus,
    I admire the industry, the precision, as well the wit and imagery which always find a place in your responses.

    I must believe what you do here is the work of a wise yeoman to warn and thus benefit those unwary souls as might accidentally stumble upon this mostly half-digested often mawkish but always churlish remarks from the Proselytising Peacock and his lot.

    In the midst of reading two excellent titles: Ricks’ Churchill and Orwell on your recommendation; and Sebastian Haffner’s The Meaning of Hitler. Haffner’s book, I recently recalled after it had slipped my mind to purchase a copy of, earned high praise from Hitch in one of his essays collected in the Arguably series.

    Haffner’s concision is the quality which caught Hitch’s attention, prompting him to call a worthy companion, Haffner’s work, for Kershaw’s. [The scene from The Silence of Lambs, Hitch writes, when an entomologist having pried out the moth chrysalis from the throat of the mutilated woman, is the ominous insect, well nurtured by someone who loved it, and altogether exact in effect of Hitler's insertion down the throats of the German people in the "..perfect psychological moment"]

    Haffner writes of Munich 1918 as the turning point for Hitler, when the man who earned some praise from unlikely quarters previously, resolved “There must never again be and there will never again be a November 1918 in Germany”, coining that intoxicating slogan Dolchstoss.

    P.S. Iffen unearthed a keen review of Mearsheimer and Walt’s opus which I read over at Foreign Affairs written by Walter Russell Mead. Have you read it?

    Best.

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    It's almost amusing how so many people are obsessed with Hitler and feel compelled to psychoanalyze his 72-years dead corpse; they poke and probe his incorporeal psyche all the while avoiding like bacon on their bagels inconvenient realities, like the extent of Jewish financing that enabled Hitler to buy all those colorful banners and shiny black boots.

    It's like a confession of the near-total falsity of the ordained narrative.

    Sad, really. Or maybe pathetic.
    The greater the attempt to diminish and demonize the long-dead demon, the more is revealed of their own daemons.

    Anyone who's ever dealt with petty crooks understands that the thief thinks the swaggering front he displays conceals from existence and notice the purloined goods he's shoved in his back pocket.
    The unnatural bulge was the first thing the detective noticed.
    , @Art
    Say Sam ---- can we get past Hitler for a minute or two.

    I am curious, is mentioning Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski all in the same sentence a “blood libel against the Jews?”

    Just asking!

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Woody is sad that Weinstein is having these troubles (am sure that all 15,000,000 Jews feel that same way).

    p.s. You can go back to your WWII diversion tactics now.
    , @Incitatus
    Sam,

    The Blattella germanica seem especially active, almost in extremis. Though it’s difficult to be sure with all the spattering guano. Ashamed to admit little more than involuntary agrarian instinct in my posts: shoveling manure back at those so adept at producing it.

    Reasonably sure I read Haffner (library’s in storage). Careful about histories, but individual memoirs are too easily digested. Agree with your:

    “Hitler's insertion..perfect psychological moment”
     
    Perfect timing, but too many credit Hitler rather than his context. He had decisive help. Ludendorff and his buddies started the Dolchstoß throwing negotiations to others. Made it easy to deny defeat, evade responsibility, and blame Versailles on civilian treachery, Jews and Freemasons.

    The Reichswehr, Freikorps, and police conspired against Versailles. Hitler thrived in the mix, but his advent was early ‘20s. Ludendorff was still marginally senior partner in the Nov ‘23 Putsch. Dolf emerged dominant from his prison chrysalis ‘24. Peter Range’s ‘1924: the Year That Made Hitler’ is persuasive.

    Ernst Jünger’s ‘Stahlgewittern’ (‘Storm of Steel’) describes a WW1 probably shared by most German veterans. The addiction of comradeship in violence surpassing sense, the daily gamble for triumph or just survival. Two themes: a passion for gambling and unity.

    Hitler's fondness for risk is well known, oft demonstrated. Unity embeds the German ethos: central to growth, power and expansion. Product of the Franco-Prussian War, but still not all that firm in 1914. Bavaria and Prussia weren’t all that fond of each other. Ullrich and Wawro both describe widespread German and Austrian cathartic euphoria in declaring war 1914. Unity of purpose, us against the world. Riefenstahl’s ‘Triumph des Willens’ highlights individual Gau swearing unity. Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Führer. The rapture of sacrificing finicky individualism for collective animal esprit. The roots of any war (not least Iraq '03).

    If Hitler wasn’t available, would another have risen to the same tasks? He was brilliant, ambitious and ruthless. But so were those who made him possible. WW1 General Staff (Ludendorff, Hindenberg), Reichswehr, weapons makers like Krupp, industrialists, businessmen, bankers, landed nobility, etc. They were essential. Sectors deeply woven into the Reich tapestry. Most, like Papen, probably thought they could control Hitler. But in the end they were happy for subordinate unity promising profits or prominence.

    Hindenberg betrayed his oath to favor the Nazis. His thumb on the scale made them possible, just as Ludendorff’s smile earlier helped engender Hitler. Hindenberg’s dying wish? Restoration of the monarchy. Unity. The Führereid oath wasn’t demanded by Hitler. Blumberg and Reichenau fell over themselves suggesting it. Unity. Relief from thinking. The Wehrmacht! Strength!

    Aside: Hans Ulrich Rüdel’s ‘Stuka Pilot’ is a WW2 memoir similar to Jünger’s work. Hans was a true believer. Ended up sans legs, a diehard Nazi in South America.

    ‘Churchill & Orwell’ is a fair- if brief - contrast. Amazing men. Biggest surprise:

    “According to one account, when Hitler sent troops into the Rhineland in March 1936, breaking the terms of the Versailles Treaty, the king [Edward VIII] called the German ambassador in London to tell him that he had “given Prime Minister Baldwin “a piece of my mind…I told the old so-and-so that I would abdicate if he ever made war. There was a frightful scene. But you needn’t worry. There won’t be war.”
     
    Pity Wallis didn’t spin her web sooner. ‘Fiasco’ is still Ricks’ best.

    Hope to get to your economic posts soon (busy days). Sorry for the random thoughts.

    Best
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  • P.S. But, but… Sam Shama assured us Dumb Goyim there would be no war (he even has polls to prove it).

    Either way they win. Just the constant threat of war can and no doubt is being propagated and milked in their favor. The on again, off again nature of the supposed threat has several benefits to them too tedious to discuss here, and which most already are aware of anyway.

    When they get all the mileage they can out of threats, they can either abandon the rhetoric or go full bore. No one knows what the crazies in power will do, including themselves, and they are subject to wild gyrations and flip-flops depending on their whims and preferences at any given moment.

    I think an important thing is for the rest of us to remember that they’re all basically nuts, and putting any faith in them as saviors is equally nutty.

    I’m probably nuts with jealousy tho, ya know. (My apologies to the Shaman what doesn’t like my cringeworthy rhymes. Deal with it, Baby!)
    ;)

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  • @geokat62
    Here's Philip Weiss' take on Trump's decision to decertify Iran deal:

    Trump’s speech on Iran deal is an orgy for Israel and its US friends

    Trump’s decertification of the Iran deal is sad news of course, though there are some silver linings. Nothing may come of it. The Congress might woof a lot but leave it alone. Germany, France, and Britain have already slapped the president down– they “stand committed” to the deal. Though look who was quick to “congratulate” the president:

    https://youtu.be/Zawj56lJvyM


    “Israel embraces this opportunity,” Netanyahu says. And so should every leader responsible for “the security of the world.”

    So it is clear as ever who is against the deal. Israel and its lobby. That’s all, folks. The other night on NBC, Andrea Mitchell said that Trump would gladden “his base” by decertifying the deal, but this is simply a lie. Trump’s base of disaffected white voters in red states don’t care about Iran. The pro-Israel wing does. Trump’s “billionaire donors”– three rightwing Israel supporters– care. The media’s evasion of this central question is more transparent than ever.

    The leading Israel lobby group AIPAC was quick to adore the president on his speech. “POTUS policy objectives: Confront Iran’s regional aggression and fix dangerous flaws in the nuclear deal.”

    BS https://t.co/dgSF86kH3a

    — Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice) October 14, 2017

    Too bad that Susan Rice didn’t openly confront AIPAC when she had power, as national security adviser to Obama, and ambassador to the U.N. Though Obama tried to call out Israel, in his great, I’d be abrogating my constitutional duties speech, when he said he couldn’t defer to Netanyahu.

    Israel runs through all arguments on the deal. Mark Dubowitz of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, which is funded by Paul Singer, Sheldon Adelson and Bernard Marcus and is all about Israel, stole Netanyahu’s line on PBS last night–“Fix it or nix it”– without crediting the Israeli p.m. The Republican Jewish Coalition promptly declared that Trump has bolstered Israel’s security. The Israel Project at least tells us what the real problem with Iran is: It helps Hamas and Hezbollah, Israel’s pesky enemies. That’s an existential threat to the west?

    While supporters of the deal also have to salute Israel in order to seem plausible. Rob Malley cited “Prime Minister Netanyahu” approvingly last night on the News Hour– Netanyahu described Iran’s “existential threat” back in 2014 and we have addressed it. Fred Kaplan invokes “the vast majority of Israeli military and intelligence officers.” Trudy Rubin cites Ami Ayalon and other Israeli “security experts.” So does J Street: “Killing the JCPOA would also increase the threat to Israel – which is why the majority of the Israeli security establishment believes the agreement should be maintained.”

    So Israel’s security interest is what matters– the establishment agrees. South Korea and Japan should have it so good when it comes to North Korea. But they don’t.

    The lobby’s friends in the Senate are very happy. Tom Cotton wants regime change. While Marco Rubio says the deal is “Munich” for the 21st century. Iran is going to take over Europe, cracks Ben Rhodes. We really are going nuts.
     
    Hey, but us Dumb Goyim are antisemites for saying exactly the same things since the invasion of Iraq - i.e., it's all about enhancing the security of the villa in the jungle, period.

    Hey, but us Dumb Goyim are antisemites for saying exactly the same things since the invasion of Iraq – i.e., it’s all about enhancing the security of the villa in the jungle, period.

    Hey, whatsamatta, you jealous and bitter er sumpin???

    ;)

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  • Here’s Philip Weiss’ take on Trump’s decision to decertify Iran deal:

    Trump’s speech on Iran deal is an orgy for Israel and its US friends

    Trump’s decertification of the Iran deal is sad news of course, though there are some silver linings. Nothing may come of it. The Congress might woof a lot but leave it alone. Germany, France, and Britain have already slapped the president down– they “stand committed” to the deal. Though look who was quick to “congratulate” the president:

    “Israel embraces this opportunity,” Netanyahu says. And so should every leader responsible for “the security of the world.”

    So it is clear as ever who is against the deal. Israel and its lobby. That’s all, folks. The other night on NBC, Andrea Mitchell said that Trump would gladden “his base” by decertifying the deal, but this is simply a lie. Trump’s base of disaffected white voters in red states don’t care about Iran. The pro-Israel wing does. Trump’s “billionaire donors”– three rightwing Israel supporters– care. The media’s evasion of this central question is more transparent than ever.

    The leading Israel lobby group AIPAC was quick to adore the president on his speech. “POTUS policy objectives: Confront Iran’s regional aggression and fix dangerous flaws in the nuclear deal.”

    BS https://t.co/dgSF86kH3a

    — Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice) October 14, 2017

    Too bad that Susan Rice didn’t openly confront AIPAC when she had power, as national security adviser to Obama, and ambassador to the U.N. Though Obama tried to call out Israel, in his great, I’d be abrogating my constitutional duties speech, when he said he couldn’t defer to Netanyahu.

    Israel runs through all arguments on the deal. Mark Dubowitz of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, which is funded by Paul Singer, Sheldon Adelson and Bernard Marcus and is all about Israel, stole Netanyahu’s line on PBS last night–“Fix it or nix it”– without crediting the Israeli p.m. The Republican Jewish Coalition promptly declared that Trump has bolstered Israel’s security. The Israel Project at least tells us what the real problem with Iran is: It helps Hamas and Hezbollah, Israel’s pesky enemies. That’s an existential threat to the west?

    While supporters of the deal also have to salute Israel in order to seem plausible. Rob Malley cited “Prime Minister Netanyahu” approvingly last night on the News Hour– Netanyahu described Iran’s “existential threat” back in 2014 and we have addressed it. Fred Kaplan invokes “the vast majority of Israeli military and intelligence officers.” Trudy Rubin cites Ami Ayalon and other Israeli “security experts.” So does J Street: “Killing the JCPOA would also increase the threat to Israel – which is why the majority of the Israeli security establishment believes the agreement should be maintained.”

    So Israel’s security interest is what matters– the establishment agrees. South Korea and Japan should have it so good when it comes to North Korea. But they don’t.

    The lobby’s friends in the Senate are very happy. Tom Cotton wants regime change. While Marco Rubio says the deal is “Munich” for the 21st century. Iran is going to take over Europe, cracks Ben Rhodes. We really are going nuts.

    Hey, but us Dumb Goyim are antisemites for saying exactly the same things since the invasion of Iraq – i.e., it’s all about enhancing the security of the villa in the jungle, period.

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    Hey, but us Dumb Goyim are antisemites for saying exactly the same things since the invasion of Iraq – i.e., it’s all about enhancing the security of the villa in the jungle, period.
     
    Hey, whatsamatta, you jealous and bitter er sumpin???

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  • @geokat62
    It seems that Phil was justified in sounding the alarm. Here is an excerpt from an article written by Joe Cirincione, president of the Ploughshares Fund and author of “Nuclear Nightmares: Securing the World Before It Is Too Late.”:

    Trump’s horrifying Iran deal gambit

    President Trump is creating another crisis, and this could be the worst of all. He is planning next week to begin pulling the United States out of the agreement made with the nations of the world to stop Iran’s nuclear program. He reportedly will say that the accord, the product of years of exhaustive negotiations that was approved unanimously by the United Nations Security Council in 2015, is not in our national security interest...


    “We are sleepwalking into an armed conflict,” Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) wrote on Thursday. He blasted the efforts to cherry-pick data to claim Iran was violating the agreement when the administration has presented no such evidence to Congress.

    “The hidden scandal of the Iraq War — the manipulation of intelligence to support a predetermined outcome,” he said, “is now an overt political strategy to undermine a multilateral nonproliferation agreement.”

    He is right. A small group of neoconservative groups in Washington have stroked Trump’s ego and fanned his obsessive hatred of former President Obama to convince him that he could and must tear down Obama’s signature foreign policy achievement.

    They manufacture “violations” no agency can find, invent a “spirit of the deal” than never existed, and imagine an alternative future where Iran caves to new, unilateral American demands — or we use military force to remove the regime once and for all.

    This is not a dream, but a nightmare.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/trump-horrifying-iran-deal-gambit-article-1.3546355

     

    That didn’t take long:

    Israeli minister says Trump speech may start war with Iran
    Reuters Staff

    JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israel’s intelligence minister said U.S. President Donald Trump’s speech against the 2015 international nuclear deal with Iran on Friday was “very significant” and could lead to war given threats that preceded it from Tehran.

    Israel’s Channel 2 TV asked Intelligence Minister Israel Katz whether he saw a risk of war after Trump’s speech.

    “Absolutely, yes. I think that the speech was very significant,” Katz responded. “Iran is the new North Korea. We see where things are goings.”

    We do, indeed.

    Get ready. The Wurlitzer is about to be cranked into high gear.

    P.S. But, but… Sam Shama assured us Dumb Goyim there would be no war (he even has polls to prove it).

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  • It is time for all the people in Law Enforcement, Military and who work under those individuals to join and take back the power. What they are doing is illegal and their rank means nothing except prison or death for what they are doing.

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  • @anonymous

    The French Army didn’t mutiny.
     
    http://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-17-3-a-the-french-army-mutinies-of-world-war-i

    In the first two months of the war, the French lost 329,000 soldiers. By Christmas 1914, almost a half million French soldiers had died. By December 1916, 3 million Frenchmen had been killed or wounded.

    Early in 1917, a new French Army commander-in-chief, General Robert Nivelle, planned a major offensive on the German lines. His strategy was to soften the German defenses with artillery and then, with the aid of tanks, hurl large numbers of troops at the enemy. Nivelle predicted that a "break-through" would occur within 48 hours. This would then lead to a crushing defeat of the German Army and an end to the war.

    More than a million French soldiers left their trenches to attack across no-man's land on April 16. But things went wrong. . . .

    After a week of French attacks, the German lines still held. More than 100,000 French soldiers had been killed or wounded. Incredibly, General Nivelle insisted on continuing his offensive, believing that the big "break-through" would come at any time.

    . . . Of the 600 men in the battalion, only 200 lived through the assault. Dazed and demoralized, the 2nd Battalion survivors were promised a period of rest behind the front. Instead, replacements filled the ranks of the dead and wounded, and on April 29 the battalion was again ordered to the front.

    Angry and unbelieving, the men refused. Many of them, drunk on cheap wine, shouted, "Down with the war!" By midnight, the soldiers had sobered up and regained their military discipline. By 2 a.m., they reluctantly began to march to the trenches on the French front lines. Recognizing that a brief mutiny had occurred, officers decided that an example had to made of some of the mutineers. In the dark, about a dozen members of the battalion were pulled, more or less at random, from the ranks. They were court-martialed for leading the mutiny. . . . Most were sentenced to prisons outside the country. Five were sentenced to be shot. . . .

    Another, far larger mutiny broke out on May 3. When called to assemble in their battalions and regiments, almost the entire battle-weary 2nd Division came drunk and without their weapons. "We're not marching!" the soldiers shouted. They refused to move out to the trenches. The officers retreated to headquarters, unsure of what to do.
     

    Did the cow that gave itself a horsey name really say,

    The French Army didn’t mutiny.

    ????

    That’s as hilarious as it is preposterous, Every 6th grader knows that they did. I bet even Wiki, the cow’s favorite source, even admits to it.

    The shamasters are too funny.

    At least with their joking they’ve cured any bitterness I’ve ever had!

    Bless you all!

    Remember gang, we’ve been told that “Debt is good!” by one who’s “studied” debt by reading the “intuitive” Krugman in the WSJ. Wow! Impressive , eh?

    Hehehehe!

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    He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
    He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple. Teach him.
    He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
    He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise. Follow him.


    The 2- or 4-legged creature is a point-scorer, not a serious seeker of wisdom.

    Not worth arguing with -- a fool, flee him.

    One notices that Sam Shama bends the knee -- or four of them -- to what he assesses as the ass's wisdom.

    How to assess that form of assitude not even the Persian aphorism can comprehend.

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  • @anonymous

    The French Army didn’t mutiny.
     
    http://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-17-3-a-the-french-army-mutinies-of-world-war-i

    In the first two months of the war, the French lost 329,000 soldiers. By Christmas 1914, almost a half million French soldiers had died. By December 1916, 3 million Frenchmen had been killed or wounded.

    Early in 1917, a new French Army commander-in-chief, General Robert Nivelle, planned a major offensive on the German lines. His strategy was to soften the German defenses with artillery and then, with the aid of tanks, hurl large numbers of troops at the enemy. Nivelle predicted that a "break-through" would occur within 48 hours. This would then lead to a crushing defeat of the German Army and an end to the war.

    More than a million French soldiers left their trenches to attack across no-man's land on April 16. But things went wrong. . . .

    After a week of French attacks, the German lines still held. More than 100,000 French soldiers had been killed or wounded. Incredibly, General Nivelle insisted on continuing his offensive, believing that the big "break-through" would come at any time.

    . . . Of the 600 men in the battalion, only 200 lived through the assault. Dazed and demoralized, the 2nd Battalion survivors were promised a period of rest behind the front. Instead, replacements filled the ranks of the dead and wounded, and on April 29 the battalion was again ordered to the front.

    Angry and unbelieving, the men refused. Many of them, drunk on cheap wine, shouted, "Down with the war!" By midnight, the soldiers had sobered up and regained their military discipline. By 2 a.m., they reluctantly began to march to the trenches on the French front lines. Recognizing that a brief mutiny had occurred, officers decided that an example had to made of some of the mutineers. In the dark, about a dozen members of the battalion were pulled, more or less at random, from the ranks. They were court-martialed for leading the mutiny. . . . Most were sentenced to prisons outside the country. Five were sentenced to be shot. . . .

    Another, far larger mutiny broke out on May 3. When called to assemble in their battalions and regiments, almost the entire battle-weary 2nd Division came drunk and without their weapons. "We're not marching!" the soldiers shouted. They refused to move out to the trenches. The officers retreated to headquarters, unsure of what to do.
     

    “The French Army didn’t mutiny.”

    My response to Freedman’s assertion “At that time [Dec 1916], the French army had mutinied.” Your link affirms, despite catastrophic losses, they had not.

    By Nov 1918, France lost 1.4 million to 1.7 million kia/missing. Can’t remember exactly, but something like 80% of survivors had been wounded. 340,000 French civilians died. 4.39% of the French population perished, a higher percentage than the German Reich (4.32%).

    A nasty abattoir for all concerned.

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  • Ah, golden plumage
    Spread in fan array

    chain mail chin
    beak foamed in spray

    Strut and flutter
    Wheel and mutter

    words shower
    stutter, stutter

    Ah, the call of ‘umbleness
    ‘Copier-coller’, ‘Copier-coller’

    -Ode to the Proselytizing Pedagogic Peacock

    Known to nest in dark internet corners, the PPP is famous for randomly spattering half digested quotes from a wide variety of sources – most unread and nearly all beyond it’s understanding. It accomplishes this in a ritual of self-admiration, displaying plumes of scholarly condescension, proud strutting, and granite-like intelligence.

    Adolescent PPPs oft can’t spell their own names. Corrected, they usually sputter in fits of pique:

    Q: “btw shouldn’t ‘Jacues’ be spelled ‘Jacques’?”

    PPP: “At one time it was, but your mention of it is as irrelevant as it is petty. Anyway it’s about time you became aware that it’s pretty common for folks to vary things a little.”

    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/who-got-us-into-these-endless-wars/#comment-1526974

    Servile flattery attracts PPP admirers, while vomitous plagiarism keeps them hypnotically awash in undigested, borrowed thinking. Poor comprehension or outright stupidity is no impediment:

    “Such “anti-federalist” arguments were and are as correct and prescient as they are compelling. One of my favorite pieces is…Brutus (aka Robert Yates) ‘To the Citizens of the State of New-York’ 18 October 1787…I’d like to add further that I’m sure Adolph Hitler would have agreed with most, if not all, and that’s evidence that he wasn’t the evil that Allied propaganda would have us all believing to this day.”

    http://www.unz.com/freed/general-lee-speaks-had-it-figured-out/#comment-1904438

    Anti-federalist, states rights Yates embraced by a dictator who abolished states rights? No problem for the PPP, whose pretentious sagacity oft masks foul (fowl) Teutonic odors!

    Naturally, the Proselytizing Pedagogic Peacock, like the Dodo, is earth bound and, for all practical purposes, extinct. Rare examples existent post legendary quantities of commentary, some over 282,000 words (‘Brave New World’ counts just 64,531)! Of course, many words – if not most – are ‘borrowed’ quotes.

    This bird is remarkable to behold, but observers should beware it’s neurotic habits.

    Ah, the call of ’umbleness
    ‘Copier-coller’, ‘Copier-coller’

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    Hi Incitatus,
    I admire the industry, the precision, as well the wit and imagery which always find a place in your responses.

    I must believe what you do here is the work of a wise yeoman to warn and thus benefit those unwary souls as might accidentally stumble upon this mostly half-digested often mawkish but always churlish remarks from the Proselytising Peacock and his lot.

    In the midst of reading two excellent titles: Ricks' Churchill and Orwell on your recommendation; and Sebastian Haffner's The Meaning of Hitler. Haffner's book, I recently recalled after it had slipped my mind to purchase a copy of, earned high praise from Hitch in one of his essays collected in the Arguably series.

    Haffner's concision is the quality which caught Hitch's attention, prompting him to call a worthy companion, Haffner's work, for Kershaw's. [The scene from The Silence of Lambs, Hitch writes, when an entomologist having pried out the moth chrysalis from the throat of the mutilated woman, is the ominous insect, well nurtured by someone who loved it, and altogether exact in effect of Hitler's insertion down the throats of the German people in the "..perfect psychological moment"]

    Haffner writes of Munich 1918 as the turning point for Hitler, when the man who earned some praise from unlikely quarters previously, resolved "There must never again be and there will never again be a November 1918 in Germany", coining that intoxicating slogan Dolchstoss.

    P.S. Iffen unearthed a keen review of Mearsheimer and Walt's opus which I read over at Foreign Affairs written by Walter Russell Mead. Have you read it?


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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus
    RootenTootenRurik!

    What a pleasure! Excuse the delay. Had to put on my hip-waders in anticipation of the tears. Thanks for holding them back!

    “what a lowlife POS”
    “WTF are you doing here anyways?”
    “now you’re slinking back in here, and making a mockery of yourself”
    “now go read and learn something”
     
    Temper, temper! The stench of sulphur’s showing. Remember the NiceNazis perfumed invitation?

    “No name calling, level playing field debate here.”
     
    Sheesh. Embarrassed to have tell a humanitarian like you. It’s like a tilt sign warning you’re morphing into mini-JR. Vomiting pejoratives indeed!

    On second thought, should that be added to your SuperPowers? Uncontrollable coprophagic ejection? Goes well with rivers of tears, pious whines and sauerkraut, doesn’t it? Let us know.

    “…didn’t I give you an assignment?”
     
    Sincere apologies. Waited for you to deliver your long-held promise:

    “...if the Nazis burned women and children alive for the fun of it, then by God I tell you I would condemn them with all of my breath...”
     
    Short-winded? Competing with Dolf in the ‘promises made, promises broken’ olympiad?

    Went this far in Freedman’s speech:

    “World War I broke out in the summer of 1914…Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines...had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic...Britain stood there without ammunition...with one week's food supply facing...starvation.”

    “At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000...[at] Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home...And the Italian army had collapsed.”

    “...not a shot had been fired on the German soil...And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms...a negotiated peace..[on] status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.”
     
    Benji’s a little short in the facts department.

    • Germany “won it actually”? Willie sleep through the Allied surrender? Von Moltke wrote “Things have not gone well...and we shall have to pay for the damage we have done” 9 Sep ‘14. Sound like a victory paean?

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?

    • The French Army didn’t mutiny.

    • Verdun isn’t on the Somme, it’s on the Meuse.

    • France lost ±300,000 poilus at Verdun. Germany lost equally. Nitwit von Falkenhayn (sacked 29 Aug ‘16) slaughtered ±300,000 of his own men! QED Willie’s peace overture.

    • Germany dropped it’s peace offer when the Allies sought withdrawal from occupied territories, reparations, and respect for principles of nationality. Willie wanted to keep occupied territory and escape financial responsibility. Willie did not want to return “everything...as it was before the war started.”

    That’s where I stopped. What’s the point? Benji sounds a lot like you. Suppose that’s backwards. You sound a lot like him and just as knowledgeable. You’re not a soapmaker by any chance?

    OK, I admit anti-Zionist Jewish holocaust-denier apostate revisionists are rare. And sweet prizes for such as you. How can Jews defend themselves from their own (wink, wink)? Pity he’s as accurate as a stopped clock. But do carry on. No doubt he’ll help your Fourth Reich peace crusade. Like Betty Parris or Abigail Williams helped Cotton Mather in Salem. Got your tree picked out, Reverend?

    Best to the asylum staff. You must really keep them busy!

    The French Army didn’t mutiny.

    http://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-17-3-a-the-french-army-mutinies-of-world-war-i

    [MORE]

    In the first two months of the war, the French lost 329,000 soldiers. By Christmas 1914, almost a half million French soldiers had died. By December 1916, 3 million Frenchmen had been killed or wounded.

    Early in 1917, a new French Army commander-in-chief, General Robert Nivelle, planned a major offensive on the German lines. His strategy was to soften the German defenses with artillery and then, with the aid of tanks, hurl large numbers of troops at the enemy. Nivelle predicted that a “break-through” would occur within 48 hours. This would then lead to a crushing defeat of the German Army and an end to the war.

    More than a million French soldiers left their trenches to attack across no-man’s land on April 16. But things went wrong. . . .

    After a week of French attacks, the German lines still held. More than 100,000 French soldiers had been killed or wounded. Incredibly, General Nivelle insisted on continuing his offensive, believing that the big “break-through” would come at any time.

    . . . Of the 600 men in the battalion, only 200 lived through the assault. Dazed and demoralized, the 2nd Battalion survivors were promised a period of rest behind the front. Instead, replacements filled the ranks of the dead and wounded, and on April 29 the battalion was again ordered to the front.

    Angry and unbelieving, the men refused. Many of them, drunk on cheap wine, shouted, “Down with the war!” By midnight, the soldiers had sobered up and regained their military discipline. By 2 a.m., they reluctantly began to march to the trenches on the French front lines. Recognizing that a brief mutiny had occurred, officers decided that an example had to made of some of the mutineers. In the dark, about a dozen members of the battalion were pulled, more or less at random, from the ranks. They were court-martialed for leading the mutiny. . . . Most were sentenced to prisons outside the country. Five were sentenced to be shot. . . .

    Another, far larger mutiny broke out on May 3. When called to assemble in their battalions and regiments, almost the entire battle-weary 2nd Division came drunk and without their weapons. “We’re not marching!” the soldiers shouted. They refused to move out to the trenches. The officers retreated to headquarters, unsure of what to do.

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    “The French Army didn’t mutiny.”

    My response to Freedman’s assertion “At that time [Dec 1916], the French army had mutinied.” Your link affirms, despite catastrophic losses, they had not.

    By Nov 1918, France lost 1.4 million to 1.7 million kia/missing. Can’t remember exactly, but something like 80% of survivors had been wounded. 340,000 French civilians died. 4.39% of the French population perished, a higher percentage than the German Reich (4.32%).

    A nasty abattoir for all concerned.
    , @jacques sheete
    Did the cow that gave itself a horsey name really say,

    The French Army didn’t mutiny.
     
    ????

    That's as hilarious as it is preposterous, Every 6th grader knows that they did. I bet even Wiki, the cow's favorite source, even admits to it.

    The shamasters are too funny.

    At least with their joking they've cured any bitterness I've ever had!

    Bless you all!

    Remember gang, we've been told that "Debt is good!" by one who's "studied" debt by reading the "intuitive" Krugman in the WSJ. Wow! Impressive , eh?

    Hehehehe!
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  • @Rurik

    The only WW victims were Germans and Italians!
     
    what a lowlife POS

    all anyone has heard for the last 70 years is blubbering over the so-called "six million", to the point of mass nausea. Leaders in Europe are punished for telling the simple truth of history, that the Holocaust was a minor detail of the war, hardly worth mentioning. But pick up a history textbook today and it's like a kosher kvetch fest.

    and WTF are you doing here anyways?!

    didn't I give you an assignment?

    you were to go read or listen to the words of Benjamin Freedman's speech, and then tell us all in what manner he was in error, remember?

    and now you're slinking back in here, and making a mockery of yourself

    if you can't repudiate the words of Freedman's speech, then all you're doing is pointing out how right and perceptive and spot on the money that he was, with your craven silence

    now go read and learn something, and once you have something salient to add to the conversation, then come back and edify us all.

    …you were to go read or listen to the words of Benjamin Freedman’s speech, and then tell us all in what manner he was in error, remember?

    That speech is a gem. Thanks for jogging my memory. I went back and read it. Superb.
    There are a few minor transcription errors in the copy I read but nothing to get excited about in a speech that informative.

    One error that I noted was

    They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme.

    http://solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/jewish-defector-warns-america-benjamin-h-freedman.pdf

    I think he meant

    They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun and the Somme.

    And that can be easily attributed to a transcription error especially since that way the total, 600,000, makes more sense. I believe that they suffered ~400,000 casualties at Verdun and ~200,000 on the Somme, if I recall correctly.

    In any case the points he was making are of course valid nevertheless.
    Minor, dismissable errors. Nothing like the fabulous tales we hear about the Shoa.

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  • @OilcanFloyd
    I think he knows better. Or maybe he benefits from debt. Who knows?

    I think he knows better. Or maybe he benefits from debt. Who knows?

    I don’t know what he knows, but anyone that tells folks to go read Krugman to learn about debt would probably tell folks to go to Subway for fine dining.

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  • @anonymous

    Teddy was a fashion freak so eschewed the stuff. Instead he had his goofy tough guy get up custom tailored by Brooks Brothers, if I remember correctly. He was your typical cornball poseur, but that may merely be my bitterness and envy speaking.
     
    Might have been Evan Thomas or maybe Jon Meacham -- wrote a biography of Teddy, or a book called "The War Lovers" that included Teddy -- Anyway, TR's father bought his way out of the Civil War -- paid some schmuck $300; I think the guy died. Close friends/relatives of the Roosevelts were seriously permanently injured in Civil War. The whole family felt the shame of Papa Roosevelt taking the coward's way out.

    Teddy was a child at the time, and witnessed soldiers parading and his whole town getting caught up in patriotic frenzy. The soldiers looked swell in their colors and braid and trim. Teddy's father had a military uniform made to scale and in detail for little Teddy. He marched around in his boots and belt and hat saying "Ain't I a soldier too"

    The militaristic streak in TR was deeply embedded.

    Stephen Kinzer has a new book about US's emergence as an imperialist, militarist power; TR takes a lead position . Curiously, Kinzer juxtaposes Teddy with Mark Twain, the leading political critic of his time -- kind of a Phil Giraldi.

    Curiously, Kinzer juxtaposes Teddy with Mark Twain, the leading political critic of his time — kind of a Phil Giraldi.

    Thanks for your fine comment. It’s interesting that Mark Twain also wrote an excellent piece wherein he distinguished moral courage, (very rare) from physical courage (which is pretty common). it took a lot of moral courage for Mr Giraldi to write this piece, to name names, but I wish to heck he would have avoided the broad brush. I remain, however, very grateful for the fact that he did what he felt was his honest best.

    You may find this interesting and it illustrates my point.

    And so Missouri has fallen, that great state! Certain of her children have joined the lynchers, and the smirch is upon the rest of us. That handful of her children have given us a character and labeled us with a name, and to the dwellers in the four quarters of the earth we are “lynchers,” now, and ever shall be. For the world will not stop and think–it never does, it is not its way; its way is to generalize from a single sample. It will not say, “Those Missourians have been busy eighty years in building an honorable good name for themselves; these hundred lynchers down in the corner of the state are not real Missourians, they are renegades.” No, that truth will not enter its mind; it will generalize from the one or two misleading samples and say, “The Missourians are lynchers.” It “

    …“We are out of moral-courage material; we are in a condition of profound poverty. “

    Mark Twain (Samuel Clemmens), THE UNITED STATES OF LYNCHERDOM (1901)
    http://www.angelfire.com/mn3/mixed_lit/twain_lyncherdom.htm

    By the looks of it we’re all out of moral courage and shall be for some time.

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  • @jacques sheete

    I’ll go with naive.
     
    You go, Oilcan! :)

    Anyway, I'm naive about a lot of things, but I'm learning. At least I know that there're yuuuge differences between private debt and public debt, and I know that only a moron would make the blanket claim that "debt is good, " and that the pop-economist, Paul Krugman is some kind of authority on it because, well you know, he's "intuitive" 'n stuff.

    Tell me, are the Shamster's claims naive or what?

    I think he knows better. Or maybe he benefits from debt. Who knows?

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    I think he knows better. Or maybe he benefits from debt. Who knows?
     
    I don't know what he knows, but anyone that tells folks to go read Krugman to learn about debt would probably tell folks to go to Subway for fine dining.
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  • @Rurik

    The only WW victims were Germans and Italians!
     
    what a lowlife POS

    all anyone has heard for the last 70 years is blubbering over the so-called "six million", to the point of mass nausea. Leaders in Europe are punished for telling the simple truth of history, that the Holocaust was a minor detail of the war, hardly worth mentioning. But pick up a history textbook today and it's like a kosher kvetch fest.

    and WTF are you doing here anyways?!

    didn't I give you an assignment?

    you were to go read or listen to the words of Benjamin Freedman's speech, and then tell us all in what manner he was in error, remember?

    and now you're slinking back in here, and making a mockery of yourself

    if you can't repudiate the words of Freedman's speech, then all you're doing is pointing out how right and perceptive and spot on the money that he was, with your craven silence

    now go read and learn something, and once you have something salient to add to the conversation, then come back and edify us all.

    RootenTootenRurik!

    What a pleasure! Excuse the delay. Had to put on my hip-waders in anticipation of the tears. Thanks for holding them back!

    “what a lowlife POS”
    “WTF are you doing here anyways?”
    “now you’re slinking back in here, and making a mockery of yourself”
    “now go read and learn something”

    Temper, temper! The stench of sulphur’s showing. Remember the NiceNazis perfumed invitation?

    “No name calling, level playing field debate here.”

    Sheesh. Embarrassed to have tell a humanitarian like you. It’s like a tilt sign warning you’re morphing into mini-JR. Vomiting pejoratives indeed!

    On second thought, should that be added to your SuperPowers? Uncontrollable coprophagic ejection? Goes well with rivers of tears, pious whines and sauerkraut, doesn’t it? Let us know.

    “…didn’t I give you an assignment?”

    Sincere apologies. Waited for you to deliver your long-held promise:

    “…if the Nazis burned women and children alive for the fun of it, then by God I tell you I would condemn them with all of my breath…”

    Short-winded? Competing with Dolf in the ‘promises made, promises broken’ olympiad?

    Went this far in Freedman’s speech:

    “World War I broke out in the summer of 1914…Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines…had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic…Britain stood there without ammunition…with one week’s food supply facing…starvation.”

    “At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000…[at] Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home…And the Italian army had collapsed.”

    “…not a shot had been fired on the German soil…And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms…a negotiated peace..[on] status quo ante basis. That means: “Let’s call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.”

    Benji’s a little short in the facts department.

    • Germany “won it actually”? Willie sleep through the Allied surrender? Von Moltke wrote “Things have not gone well…and we shall have to pay for the damage we have done” 9 Sep ‘14. Sound like a victory paean?

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?

    • The French Army didn’t mutiny.

    • Verdun isn’t on the Somme, it’s on the Meuse.

    • France lost ±300,000 poilus at Verdun. Germany lost equally. Nitwit von Falkenhayn (sacked 29 Aug ‘16) slaughtered ±300,000 of his own men! QED Willie’s peace overture.

    • Germany dropped it’s peace offer when the Allies sought withdrawal from occupied territories, reparations, and respect for principles of nationality. Willie wanted to keep occupied territory and escape financial responsibility. Willie did not want to return “everything…as it was before the war started.”

    That’s where I stopped. What’s the point? Benji sounds a lot like you. Suppose that’s backwards. You sound a lot like him and just as knowledgeable. You’re not a soapmaker by any chance?

    OK, I admit anti-Zionist Jewish holocaust-denier apostate revisionists are rare. And sweet prizes for such as you. How can Jews defend themselves from their own (wink, wink)? Pity he’s as accurate as a stopped clock. But do carry on. No doubt he’ll help your Fourth Reich peace crusade. Like Betty Parris or Abigail Williams helped Cotton Mather in Salem. Got your tree picked out, Reverend?

    Best to the asylum staff. You must really keep them busy!

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    The French Army didn’t mutiny.
     
    http://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-17-3-a-the-french-army-mutinies-of-world-war-i

    In the first two months of the war, the French lost 329,000 soldiers. By Christmas 1914, almost a half million French soldiers had died. By December 1916, 3 million Frenchmen had been killed or wounded.

    Early in 1917, a new French Army commander-in-chief, General Robert Nivelle, planned a major offensive on the German lines. His strategy was to soften the German defenses with artillery and then, with the aid of tanks, hurl large numbers of troops at the enemy. Nivelle predicted that a "break-through" would occur within 48 hours. This would then lead to a crushing defeat of the German Army and an end to the war.

    More than a million French soldiers left their trenches to attack across no-man's land on April 16. But things went wrong. . . .

    After a week of French attacks, the German lines still held. More than 100,000 French soldiers had been killed or wounded. Incredibly, General Nivelle insisted on continuing his offensive, believing that the big "break-through" would come at any time.

    . . . Of the 600 men in the battalion, only 200 lived through the assault. Dazed and demoralized, the 2nd Battalion survivors were promised a period of rest behind the front. Instead, replacements filled the ranks of the dead and wounded, and on April 29 the battalion was again ordered to the front.

    Angry and unbelieving, the men refused. Many of them, drunk on cheap wine, shouted, "Down with the war!" By midnight, the soldiers had sobered up and regained their military discipline. By 2 a.m., they reluctantly began to march to the trenches on the French front lines. Recognizing that a brief mutiny had occurred, officers decided that an example had to made of some of the mutineers. In the dark, about a dozen members of the battalion were pulled, more or less at random, from the ranks. They were court-martialed for leading the mutiny. . . . Most were sentenced to prisons outside the country. Five were sentenced to be shot. . . .

    Another, far larger mutiny broke out on May 3. When called to assemble in their battalions and regiments, almost the entire battle-weary 2nd Division came drunk and without their weapons. "We're not marching!" the soldiers shouted. They refused to move out to the trenches. The officers retreated to headquarters, unsure of what to do.
     
    , @Rurik
    well done Incitatus !

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?
     
    the starvation blockade was only possible because Germany had agreed. based on Wilson's Fourteen Points, to disarm, honorably. And put their fate in the hands of the Allies, who they counted on also to act honorable.

    But the Fourteen Points turned out to be a ruse and the treacherous Allies used the disarmament of Germany as an opportunity to starve her into perpetual slavery and humiliation.

    It was all a betrayal. The whole history of the World Wars are tales of treachery, betrayal and murderous perfidy.

    And speaking of, the reason all of this is salient, is because this is an article about Jewish treachery in bringing the US into perpetual wars for Israel, and this was going on a hundred years ago, exactly as Mr. Freedman points out.

    You see Incitatus, that's why I'm grateful to you for having read and critiqued Mr. Freedman's speech, because the crux of the speech is that American Jews, having made a treacherous deal with England for the status of Palestine, dragged America into a war for Israel. (wow, isn't that getting tiresome by now?)

    And so Germany was betrayed by America and the allies, and then once Germany was in ruins and prostrate, the world's Jews descended upon her, and used their possession of the Federal Reserve Bank to buy up all of Germany's media and institutions and then lord it over the German people, using their children in the infamous brothels of Weimer Berlin. (Weinstein's predatory rapine is child's play compared to the notorious ((Weimar regime))

    So, even as Mr. Giraldi laments the treachery of American Jews, using their ill-gotten lucre to control the institutions of our nation, and drag her into endless wars on the Jew's behalf, this has been going on for over a hundred years! Ever since Woodrow Wilson handed the world's greediest Jews the keys to the US Treasury.

    May he rot in a thousand hells. May his bones be fed to pigs and his soul burn for ten thousand eternities.

    or, I'm sure as far as you and the Maven are concerned, he was quite a mensch, right in there with FDR, George Bush and Barak Obama.

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  • @geokat62

    Dude, we don’t share the same morality.
     
    I know that, dude. You and your Most Beloved Zionist Bretheren subscribe to a most peculiar morality, indeed.

    Take a look at the pic at the top of the page. See all the bodies strewn in front of the lectern? Though you and your MBZB would deny it, they are the direct result of wars for Israel.

    But your "morality" can somehow justify supporting even more wars for Israel, the result of which would be bodies stacked to the top of the lectern.

    And the two of you have the gall to mock the rest of us for advocating an end to these policies.

    Share the same morality? Not even close.

    Try wrapping your PEAbrain around that, dude.

    Try wrapping your PEAbrain around that, dude.

    You were the one that made the appeal to morality, not me.

    a political/moral cleansing

    Can’t you keep up with your argument?

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    I noticed you didn't address Geokat's comment. Do you support the killing of innocents for Israel?
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    @jacques sheete

    That is something I’d expect The Maven Sham to have written.
     
    Ouch! Now that stings, my friend! Did you take insult lessons from our fave shaman or one of his shamsters? I hope not! ;)

    Anyway, I hear what you're saying and you make a very good point. I maintain that things really never do change fundamentally, but I will agree that the particulars of the times are new.

    The working classes have always been threatened but never before has the ruling class had access to cheap energy in abundance, the benefits of the Industrial Rev, the ability to create unlimited debt out of nothing, or the ability to brainwash and pacify the masses so thoroughly.

    Also, this time the threats are gargantuan, not to the nation, per se, but to the middle class schmuck, particularly the dumb goyim.

    But hey, Like I said, the Messiah has arrived as announced by our very own guru who's "studied these things." The answer, clearly, is more debt. What could go wrong???

    PS:


    Mencken considered the Rough Rider as being equally militant as the Kaiser, without of course a point helmet & chest full of medals.
     
    A little known fact is that the US military sported like decorations including the pickelhalbe. Teddy was a fashion freak so eschewed the stuff. Instead he had his goofy tough guy get up custom tailored by Brooks Brothers, if I remember correctly. He was your typical cornball poseur, but that may merely be my bitterness and envy speaking.

    Remember: Debt is gooood!

    Teddy was a fashion freak so eschewed the stuff. Instead he had his goofy tough guy get up custom tailored by Brooks Brothers, if I remember correctly. He was your typical cornball poseur, but that may merely be my bitterness and envy speaking.

    Might have been Evan Thomas or maybe Jon Meacham — wrote a biography of Teddy, or a book called “The War Lovers” that included Teddy — Anyway, TR’s father bought his way out of the Civil War — paid some schmuck $300; I think the guy died. Close friends/relatives of the Roosevelts were seriously permanently injured in Civil War. The whole family felt the shame of Papa Roosevelt taking the coward’s way out.

    Teddy was a child at the time, and witnessed soldiers parading and his whole town getting caught up in patriotic frenzy. The soldiers looked swell in their colors and braid and trim. Teddy’s father had a military uniform made to scale and in detail for little Teddy. He marched around in his boots and belt and hat saying “Ain’t I a soldier too”

    The militaristic streak in TR was deeply embedded.

    Stephen Kinzer has a new book about US’s emergence as an imperialist, militarist power; TR takes a lead position . Curiously, Kinzer juxtaposes Teddy with Mark Twain, the leading political critic of his time — kind of a Phil Giraldi.

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    Curiously, Kinzer juxtaposes Teddy with Mark Twain, the leading political critic of his time — kind of a Phil Giraldi.
     
    Thanks for your fine comment. It's interesting that Mark Twain also wrote an excellent piece wherein he distinguished moral courage, (very rare) from physical courage (which is pretty common). it took a lot of moral courage for Mr Giraldi to write this piece, to name names, but I wish to heck he would have avoided the broad brush. I remain, however, very grateful for the fact that he did what he felt was his honest best.

    You may find this interesting and it illustrates my point.

    And so Missouri has fallen, that great state! Certain of her children have joined the lynchers, and the smirch is upon the rest of us. That handful of her children have given us a character and labeled us with a name, and to the dwellers in the four quarters of the earth we are "lynchers," now, and ever shall be. For the world will not stop and think--it never does, it is not its way; its way is to generalize from a single sample. It will not say, "Those Missourians have been busy eighty years in building an honorable good name for themselves; these hundred lynchers down in the corner of the state are not real Missourians, they are renegades." No, that truth will not enter its mind; it will generalize from the one or two misleading samples and say, "The Missourians are lynchers." It “



    ...“We are out of moral-courage material; we are in a condition of profound poverty. “

    Mark Twain (Samuel Clemmens), THE UNITED STATES OF LYNCHERDOM (1901)
    http://www.angelfire.com/mn3/mixed_lit/twain_lyncherdom.htm
     
    By the looks of it we're all out of moral courage and shall be for some time.
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  • Dude, we don’t share the same morality.

    I know that, dude. You and your Most Beloved Zionist Bretheren subscribe to a most peculiar morality, indeed.

    Take a look at the pic at the top of the page. See all the bodies strewn in front of the lectern? Though you and your MBZB would deny it, they are the direct result of wars for Israel.

    But your “morality” can somehow justify supporting even more wars for Israel, the result of which would be bodies stacked to the top of the lectern.

    And the two of you have the gall to mock the rest of us for advocating an end to these policies.

    Share the same morality? Not even close.

    Try wrapping your PEAbrain around that, dude.

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    Try wrapping your PEAbrain around that, dude.

    You were the one that made the appeal to morality, not me.


    a political/moral cleansing
     
    Can't you keep up with your argument?
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  • @geokat62

    You may want to take a moment.
     
    And Zionists of all stripes (incl. evangelicals) should take a moment to heed PW's advice:

    Progressive Jews must do this, a political/moral cleansing for the sake of the United States and Jewish tradition.
     

    moral cleansing

    Dude, we don’t share the same morality.
    Can’t you wrap your brain around that?

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  • You may want to take a moment.

    And Zionists of all stripes (incl. evangelicals) should take a moment to heed PW’s advice:

    Progressive Jews must do this, a political/moral cleansing for the sake of the United States and Jewish tradition.

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    moral cleansing

    Dude, we don't share the same morality.
    Can't you wrap your brain around that?
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  • @iffen
    They somehow forgot to include this fine article by Phil Weiss in their extensive Roundup:

    You may want to take a moment.

    I agree that this article, which contributes very little, could have been included to balance some of the poor quality pieces offered up in opposition to W&M's positions. I complained to Sam that the Cohen article was very weak, but from reading some of the others it looks like it may turn out to be one of the stronger ones.

    Little iffen-iffen on the Phil Weiss article, linked by geokat62: “(P.W.’s) article contributes very little.”

    (Sigh)

    In addition, Little iffen-iffen weakly harkens back to the Maven Sham and whines, “I complained to Sam that the Cohen article was very weak, blah, blah.”

    (Sigh) And W.T.F. am I doing here and bothering with such a weak & little “iffen” mind that has nothing better to do?

    Selah the U.R. Gall & Fall twins.

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  • @geokat62

    CAMERA has an article on Giraldi’s Americas Jews article...

    They also have a Roundup of the Walt and Mearsheimer “Israel Lobby” Controversy where they list book reviews and articles:
     
    They somehow forgot to include this fine article by Phil Weiss in their extensive Roundup:

    Walt & Mearsheimer’s Proof That ‘Tail Wagged the Dog’ Points American Jews to a Universalist Ethos

    ........

    But the main reason the book cannot be ignored is that the arguments go much further, and are devastating. Simply put, the book proves that the tail has wagged the dog on the greatest foreign policy mistake of the last 40 years, a mistake that has caused incredible suffering in Iraq and the U.S., and blasted my country’s image. The evidence the authors marshal is so compelling that it leaves me, as a progressive Jew, weeping with distress over what the fervid particularist imagination of rightwing Jews has done to my country. I applaud the authors for being cold. They don’t seem to have any of my feeling. They leave it to the readers, and they trust educated Americans to be able to discuss these issues without setting loose the cossacks.

    Again I say, it is progressive American Jews who as much as anyone ought to be morally and spiritually engaged by this book. I hope that the JJ Goldbergs and Dan Fleshlers and Seymour Hershes and Glenn Greenwalds and Jerrold Nadlers of the world (none of whom supported this war) will at last turn on the neocons openly and say, Your wrongheaded policies about Israel are a big reason our country is in Iraq, how do you answer? Progressive Jews must do this, a political/moral cleansing for the sake of the United States and Jewish tradition. And they will do it. The only question is how many of us there will be.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me/
     

    They somehow forgot to include this fine article by Phil Weiss in their extensive Roundup:

    You may want to take a moment.

    I agree that this article, which contributes very little, could have been included to balance some of the poor quality pieces offered up in opposition to W&M’s positions. I complained to Sam that the Cohen article was very weak, but from reading some of the others it looks like it may turn out to be one of the stronger ones.

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    Little iffen-iffen on the Phil Weiss article, linked by geokat62: "(P.W.'s) article contributes very little."

    (Sigh)

    In addition, Little iffen-iffen weakly harkens back to the Maven Sham and whines, "I complained to Sam that the Cohen article was very weak, blah, blah."

    (Sigh) And W.T.F. am I doing here and bothering with such a weak & little "iffen" mind that has nothing better to do?

    Selah the U.R. Gall & Fall twins.
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  • Brother Rurik,

    How the hell do you access such GREAT illustrations such as the one on display in your VALUABLE, awareness-enhancement comment # 1122.

    P.M. “Bibi” would not join hands with fellow elite fiends in support of the FREE SPEECH rights belonging to the artist who created the (modified) “Vampire Squid.”

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

    P.S. Looks like this great P.G. article might set a U.R. record for most comments.

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    Hey Brother Chuck,

    it is a great illustration isn't it?

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/600x315/d1/1b/bf/d11bbff4dae2e474ad0d422b879f4e2b.jpg

    and as all that 'Quantitative Easing' lucre is dumped into the Wall Street $lop trough for all the Wall Street pigs to squeal over, the value of our savings is eviscerated and the working poor are bedeviled by rapidly rising prices at the grocery store.

    Not to mention the stock market bubble de jour that will pop, and take with it trillions of dollars of pension money and retirement savings.

    But it's all good, because the 1% are awash in corrupt cash via the Fed, and as always, will profit from people's misery.

    and this is of course as it should be. The middle and working classes must be scourged with inflation and debt and routine lootings of the economy. Good itz!

    just ask the Maven's maven, Kruggy himself. For whom no amount of debt is ever enough. When you're so deep in debt that you're digging to China, then Kruggy as always counsels to 'dig faster'! The solution to your debt, is always more debt! Good it'z!
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  • …is it any wonder Kruggy (and the Maven) and all the others are apologists for this demonic system of debt slavery?

    Uh-oh, Rurik! There you go, referring to debt as slavery. Listen up now.

    Debt is good.

    Debt slavery is better.

    But you ‘n me, we’re bitter!

    …and the late Lord Chatham said, more than forty years ago, that the spirits of the [184] Fundholders and Money Dealers always rose in the same proportion as the liberty of their country fell. More than thirteen years ago, I said, that, unless a stop was put to the Funding System, this country must become a den of slaves; for, that it would, in process of time, become impossible to carry on the System, [which has] a great and permanent military force, and without putting an end to every fragment of the people’s freedom..

    -William Cobbett, TO THE PAPER-MONEY MEN, 26th March, 1817

    http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/selections-from-cobbetts-political-works-vol-5

    it is debt that gives them control – power – dominance. The very thing they worship more than the lives of their children. Power.

    Which is also why they still adore the great and bloody centralizer, Saint FDR. (See the shameless sahman’s comments above.)

    The dumb goyim are only good for slavery. Are we envious yet?

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  • @jacques sheete
    We're told, from on high, that...

    Debt is good.


    It would be interesting if UR would publish this guy. It'd be hoot reading what the oracular quacksalvers around here would have to say.


    Would you lend the household your savings, knowing you'll never get any interest and the principal will never be repaid? Of course not. Nobody in a functioning market for capital would throw their hard-earned savings away on a debtor who can't pay any interest or principal.

    The only institutions that can play this game are central banks, which create money out of thin air at zero cost. As for risk — the way to manage defaults is to print more money.

    But once again — printing money doesn't create collateral or income needed to service debt. Printing money is akin to adding a zero to currency. Every $1 bill is now a $10 bill. Are you ten times wealthier once the central bank adds a zero to every bill? No, because the $5 loaf of bread is re-set to $50.

    -Charles Hugh Smith, Will the Crazy Global Debt Bubble Ever End?
    https://mises.org/blog/will-crazy-global-debt-bubble-ever-end

     

    Inflation? Who ever heard uvvit? No pwoblem! Debt be good.

    I must be jealous of debtors!. Better get me some debt quick!

    Better get me some debt quick!

    just imagine that there is zero oversight of the Fed

    these fiends ‘print’ as much of our money as amuses them, and then loan it to us, + interest as they hand in out [in secret] to their buddies all over the world

    and this has been going on for over a hundred years

    it’s a miracle there’s even a semblance of freedom anywhere on the planet

    is it any wonder Kruggy (and the Maven) and all the others are apologists for this demonic system of debt slavery?

    it is debt that gives them control – power – dominance. The very thing they worship more than the lives of their children. Power.

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  • @Paul C.
    We're all slaves to those who create fiat currency. It's one thing if an honest government (likely is no such thing) controlled a central bank and the interest went towards funding this limited government's requirements (national security, infrastructure, clean water, clean air). Income tax wouldn't be necessary and the country wouldn't be in debt. Perhaps there would be some debt if we were importing much more than exporting, but on the flip side we could become a creditor nation once again.

    Our demise started in 1913, when the Fed and IRS were created. Since then, the thieves have been gaming the system. We're all slaves to them. And the system is rigged so it cannot be challenged. No one is pushing back against the Fed except a few, Ron & Rand Paul and some others. The Fed is a criminal enterprise. It's counterfeiting by private bankers. It has bankrupted not just America, but nearly every nation on earth (private central banks). If this is not the case, what nations do not have debt?

    The way things are heading, if you protest the Fed, you'll be accused of being an anti-semite. Soon they'll be a prison sentence attached to it, just like there is in Europe and Russia for questioning the Holocaust narrative (fable).

    Thank you Paul C,

    there is only one way out of the dilemma the world faces from these people, and that way is straight though the Fed

    as long as they’re in possession of that counterfeiting machine, they can conjure as many trillions as they require at any given moment to corrupt and debase anything they touch, especially politicians.

    that is the reason we have endless wars and a permanent torture camp and the unimaginable suffering in the Middle East and elsewhere, and why Europe is being systematically murdered off.

    because Satanic ogres like the one above have unlimited tribal power of the purse to destroy anything and everything on their whim$

    there is only one way out, and that is straight though Rothschild’s central banking schemes

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  • @Incitatus

    “geokat62, Rurik, Chuck Orloski, JacquesSheete — you guys have me drinking from a firehose.”
     
    Put on your glasses S2C. That’s not a firehose, it’s a toilet.

    “…but the German PEOPLE had been starved to death — 800,000 died, and of those civilians who did not die, many were ruined for life due to malnutrition…”
     
    1.18% of population, a terrible loss. About the same percentage as Belgian civilians (1.16%, many executed by Germans). But wait! Tiny Serbia also lost 800,000 civilians! What a coincidence! Consider populations: Germany 64.9 million; Serbia 4.5 million. Germany lost 1.18%, Serbia 17.78%! Are Germans the only victims worth lamenting?

    Why did Willie and Frankie-Joe invade neighbors S2C? Club Hun vacations? Wrong turn on maneuvers? Mass hypnosis by (whisper) those evil (you know who)? Why did Willie persist in the slaughter when von Moltke knew they’d failed 9 Sep ’14?

    “…it [Rathenaus death] was an ad hoc action, not a plot, like the assassination of the Archduke…The German university student-hotheads who killed Rathenau…”
     
    “Ad hoc action?” The assassins were members of Organisation Consul, a former Freikorps unit. OC murdered 354+ people 1919-22, including Matthias Erzberger and Rathenau. OC’s ‘spiritual aims’ were: “The cultivation and dissemination of nationalist thinking; warfare against all anti-nationalists and internationalists; warfare against Jewry, Social Democracy and Leftist-radicalism; fomentation of internal unrest in order to attain the overthrow of the anti-nationalist Weimar constitution…” After murdering Rathenau, OC members formed the Viking League and eventually became related to the SA. Thank goodness they were ‘ad hoc’ and not plotters!

    “I raise these tedious details not because it’s going to change what happened in Germany — that’s over, you can’t change history.”
     
    You’re too modest S2C. Gross editing and omission can change history. Your posts are ample proof! The only WW victims were Germans and Italians!

    “That’s why I argue that it is essential to “deny the holocaust,” so that this cycle of lying/hate/destruction/war can be broken. Rudolf & “Inconvenient History” & CODOH (as well as Mark Weber at IHR) do a tremendous service in exposing the truth of the history…”
     
    Hypocrisy pealed like an onion and just as odious. 'Deny the holocaust’ to engender peace? Rehab Nazis to stop war? Indeed. You’d name a scout chapter after John Wayne Gacy to instill wholesome Christian ethos!

    Back to CODOH? Wally teach you the secret handshake? You forgot “ No name calling, level playing field debate here.” That’s the trademark wink-wink invitation isn’t it? Rather like smothering rotten meat with heavy seasoning to keep the uninitiated from retching.

    S2C why did Italy and Nazi Germany invade Greece? Another Hun holiday? Sunspots? Alien telekinesis? Whoops, forgot. Was it those evil (well, you know who)?

    The only WW victims were Germans and Italians!

    what a lowlife POS

    all anyone has heard for the last 70 years is blubbering over the so-called “six million”, to the point of mass nausea. Leaders in Europe are punished for telling the simple truth of history, that the Holocaust was a minor detail of the war, hardly worth mentioning. But pick up a history textbook today and it’s like a kosher kvetch fest.

    and WTF are you doing here anyways?!

    didn’t I give you an assignment?

    you were to go read or listen to the words of Benjamin Freedman’s speech, and then tell us all in what manner he was in error, remember?

    and now you’re slinking back in here, and making a mockery of yourself

    if you can’t repudiate the words of Freedman’s speech, then all you’re doing is pointing out how right and perceptive and spot on the money that he was, with your craven silence

    now go read and learn something, and once you have something salient to add to the conversation, then come back and edify us all.

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    RootenTootenRurik!

    What a pleasure! Excuse the delay. Had to put on my hip-waders in anticipation of the tears. Thanks for holding them back!

    “what a lowlife POS”
    “WTF are you doing here anyways?”
    “now you’re slinking back in here, and making a mockery of yourself”
    “now go read and learn something”
     
    Temper, temper! The stench of sulphur’s showing. Remember the NiceNazis perfumed invitation?

    “No name calling, level playing field debate here.”
     
    Sheesh. Embarrassed to have tell a humanitarian like you. It’s like a tilt sign warning you’re morphing into mini-JR. Vomiting pejoratives indeed!

    On second thought, should that be added to your SuperPowers? Uncontrollable coprophagic ejection? Goes well with rivers of tears, pious whines and sauerkraut, doesn’t it? Let us know.

    “…didn’t I give you an assignment?”
     
    Sincere apologies. Waited for you to deliver your long-held promise:

    “...if the Nazis burned women and children alive for the fun of it, then by God I tell you I would condemn them with all of my breath...”
     
    Short-winded? Competing with Dolf in the ‘promises made, promises broken’ olympiad?

    Went this far in Freedman’s speech:

    “World War I broke out in the summer of 1914…Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines...had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic...Britain stood there without ammunition...with one week's food supply facing...starvation.”

    “At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000...[at] Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home...And the Italian army had collapsed.”

    “...not a shot had been fired on the German soil...And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms...a negotiated peace..[on] status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.”
     
    Benji’s a little short in the facts department.

    • Germany “won it actually”? Willie sleep through the Allied surrender? Von Moltke wrote “Things have not gone well...and we shall have to pay for the damage we have done” 9 Sep ‘14. Sound like a victory paean?

    • How did Britian, as you oft lament, conduct a lethal blockade if German subs controlled the seas?

    • The French Army didn’t mutiny.

    • Verdun isn’t on the Somme, it’s on the Meuse.

    • France lost ±300,000 poilus at Verdun. Germany lost equally. Nitwit von Falkenhayn (sacked 29 Aug ‘16) slaughtered ±300,000 of his own men! QED Willie’s peace overture.

    • Germany dropped it’s peace offer when the Allies sought withdrawal from occupied territories, reparations, and respect for principles of nationality. Willie wanted to keep occupied territory and escape financial responsibility. Willie did not want to return “everything...as it was before the war started.”

    That’s where I stopped. What’s the point? Benji sounds a lot like you. Suppose that’s backwards. You sound a lot like him and just as knowledgeable. You’re not a soapmaker by any chance?

    OK, I admit anti-Zionist Jewish holocaust-denier apostate revisionists are rare. And sweet prizes for such as you. How can Jews defend themselves from their own (wink, wink)? Pity he’s as accurate as a stopped clock. But do carry on. No doubt he’ll help your Fourth Reich peace crusade. Like Betty Parris or Abigail Williams helped Cotton Mather in Salem. Got your tree picked out, Reverend?

    Best to the asylum staff. You must really keep them busy!
    , @jacques sheete

    …you were to go read or listen to the words of Benjamin Freedman’s speech, and then tell us all in what manner he was in error, remember?
     
    That speech is a gem. Thanks for jogging my memory. I went back and read it. Superb.
    There are a few minor transcription errors in the copy I read but nothing to get excited about in a speech that informative.

    One error that I noted was

    They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme.
    http://solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/jewish-defector-warns-america-benjamin-h-freedman.pdf
     
    I think he meant

    They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun and the Somme.
     
    And that can be easily attributed to a transcription error especially since that way the total, 600,000, makes more sense. I believe that they suffered ~400,000 casualties at Verdun and ~200,000 on the Somme, if I recall correctly.

    In any case the points he was making are of course valid nevertheless.
    Minor, dismissable errors. Nothing like the fabulous tales we hear about the Shoa.
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  • I hope that the JJ Goldbergs and Dan Fleshlers and Seymour Hershes and Glenn Greenwalds and Jerrold Nadlers of the world (none of whom supported this war) will at last turn on the neocons openly…

    Turn them on??????!! Yikes. Someone turn ‘em off, please!

    (Yes, I do know what he’s saying, and I agree, but instead of 40 years, I’d go back more than a century, but you know how we bitter goyim think. Did the shaman mean bitter or better?.)

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  • CAMERA has an article on Giraldi’s Americas Jews article…

    They also have a Roundup of the Walt and Mearsheimer “Israel Lobby” Controversy where they list book reviews and articles:

    They somehow forgot to include this fine article by Phil Weiss in their extensive Roundup:

    Walt & Mearsheimer’s Proof That ‘Tail Wagged the Dog’ Points American Jews to a Universalist Ethos

    ……..

    But the main reason the book cannot be ignored is that the arguments go much further, and are devastating. Simply put, the book proves that the tail has wagged the dog on the greatest foreign policy mistake of the last 40 years, a mistake that has caused incredible suffering in Iraq and the U.S., and blasted my country’s image. The evidence the authors marshal is so compelling that it leaves me, as a progressive Jew, weeping with distress over what the fervid particularist imagination of rightwing Jews has done to my country. I applaud the authors for being cold. They don’t seem to have any of my feeling. They leave it to the readers, and they trust educated Americans to be able to discuss these issues without setting loose the cossacks.

    Again I say, it is progressive American Jews who as much as anyone ought to be morally and spiritually engaged by this book. I hope that the JJ Goldbergs and Dan Fleshlers and Seymour Hershes and Glenn Greenwalds and Jerrold Nadlers of the world (none of whom supported this war) will at last turn on the neocons openly and say, Your wrongheaded policies about Israel are a big reason our country is in Iraq, how do you answer? Progressive Jews must do this, a political/moral cleansing for the sake of the United States and Jewish tradition. And they will do it. The only question is how many of us there will be.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me/

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    They somehow forgot to include this fine article by Phil Weiss in their extensive Roundup:

    You may want to take a moment.

    I agree that this article, which contributes very little, could have been included to balance some of the poor quality pieces offered up in opposition to W&M's positions. I complained to Sam that the Cohen article was very weak, but from reading some of the others it looks like it may turn out to be one of the stronger ones.
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  • We’re told, from on high, that…

    Debt is good.

    It would be interesting if UR would publish this guy. It’d be hoot reading what the oracular quacksalvers around here would have to say.

    Would you lend the household your savings, knowing you’ll never get any interest and the principal will never be repaid? Of course not. Nobody in a functioning market for capital would throw their hard-earned savings away on a debtor who can’t pay any interest or principal.

    The only institutions that can play this game are central banks, which create money out of thin air at zero cost. As for risk — the way to manage defaults is to print more money.

    But once again — printing money doesn’t create collateral or income needed to service debt. Printing money is akin to adding a zero to currency. Every $1 bill is now a $10 bill. Are you ten times wealthier once the central bank adds a zero to every bill? No, because the $5 loaf of bread is re-set to $50.

    -Charles Hugh Smith, Will the Crazy Global Debt Bubble Ever End?

    https://mises.org/blog/will-crazy-global-debt-bubble-ever-end

    Inflation? Who ever heard uvvit? No pwoblem! Debt be good.

    I must be jealous of debtors!. Better get me some debt quick!

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    Better get me some debt quick!
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8FnbdfFVQQ

    just imagine that there is zero oversight of the Fed

    these fiends 'print' as much of our money as amuses them, and then loan it to us, + interest as they hand in out [in secret] to their buddies all over the world

    http://mewoki.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/octopus.jpg

    and this has been going on for over a hundred years

    it's a miracle there's even a semblance of freedom anywhere on the planet

    is it any wonder Kruggy (and the Maven) and all the others are apologists for this demonic system of debt slavery?

    it is debt that gives them control - power - dominance. The very thing they worship more than the lives of their children. Power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFqx2sROwsE
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  • @Sam Shama


    "Thank goodness they were ‘ad hoc’ and not plotters!"

     

    HAHAAAAAA. That was the best! It reminded me of the scene from Hogwarts when Headmistress Mcgonagle accosts poor Harry caught practicing unsanctioned, ad-hoc, wizardry:
    "Mr. Potter you are a plotter!"

    I daren't read the whole thing again, for fear of splitting my sides.

    Best

    (A deep State mass socialization sigh)

    Figures the Maven Sham would support reverse-Catholic evangelization of American kids with Harry Potter books.

    Selah What Happened To The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and The Hardy Boys?

    Post scriptum: Uh, Maven, do you wear cap & gown along with your red tights and pointy tail wardrobe?

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  • @geokat62

    I wonder if Rep. Gerry Connally (D. Va) is an AIPAC member?
     
    Bought and paid for, Chuck:

    Rep. Gerald E. Connolly faces constituents’ ire in making the case for striking Syria

    ......

    He starts by reminding his audience of President Lyndon B. Johnson’s Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which got the United States more deeply involved in Vietnam, and then talks about President George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq.

    “Syria is different,” Connolly insists. “We have a president who is a reluctant warrior. . . . Anyone who believes he has some secret plan to put troops in Syria and invade it — I don’t think anyone really believes that about him.”

    Then Connolly makes the moral case that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad must be stopped from gassing his own people. “This is a great test. This is not a pleasant moment,” he says, before conceding of the use-of-force resolution: “I don’t even know if it will pass the House.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-gerald-e-connolly-faces-constituents-ire-in-making-the-case-for-striking-syria/2013/09/05/827351f4-1646-11e3-be6e-dc6ae8a5b3a8_story.html?utm_term=.5e5f460e3ce3
     

    Re, Rep. Connally: “Bought and paid for.”

    Hey geokat62,

    Now I’m anxious to see what our Knesset Congress does with POT(Z)USA Trump’s move to decertify the Iran deal.

    Thanks for delivering the (pitiful) “goods” on little Gerry from ole Virginny!

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  • We’ve all been informed…

    Debt is good.

    Too bad Herbert Spencer referred to corporate debt as something less than desireable. I wonder why. Too bad he couldn’t have learned from the New Messiah. Here’s what that poor dumb gooy had to say…

    What an astounding illustration of the defeat of dishonesty by the eternal laws of things we have in the history of the East India Company! Selfish, unscrupulous, worldly-wise in policy, and with unlimited force to back it, this oligarchy, year by year, perseveringly carried out its schemes of aggrandisement. It subjugated province upon province; it laid one prince after another under tribute; it made exorbitant demands upon adjacent rulers, and construed refusal into a pretext for aggression; it became sole proprietor of the land, claiming nearly one-half the produce as rent; and it entirely monopolized commerce: thus uniting in itself the character of conqueror, ruler, landowner, and merchant. With all these resources, what could it be but prosperous? From the spoils of victorious war, the rent of millions of acres, the tribute of dependent monarchs, the profits of an exclusive trade, what untold wealth must have poured in upon it! what revenues! what a bursting exchequer! Alas! the Company is some 50,000,000l. in debt.⚓✪

    Protected trades, too, have afforded many proofs of the impolicy of injustice.

    Herbert Spencer, Social Statics [1851]

    http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/spencer-social-statics-1851?q=east+india#Spencer_0331_162

    “Eternal laws of things?” Who cares about quaint crap like that. Cringeworthy (sic), ya know? What a duffer. What does he know? This is the 21st century after all and it’s all different this time. Yup. The Oracle has speaketh!

    The dumb ogy that I am, I could be reading that all wrong. Could be that Spencer is hailing the debt as a good thing. I guess I’ll have to think about it. Maybe I should refer to Krugman, who, no doubt, is an “admirer” of Spencer as well. And besides, his colleagues anoint him “intooitiff.” What goy could argue with that?

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  • CAMERA has an article on Giraldi’s Americas Jews article.

    http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=35&x_article=3751

    They also have a Roundup of the Walt and Mearsheimer “Israel Lobby” Controversy
    where they list book reviews and articles:

    http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=8&x_nameinnews=189&x_article=1105

    I found an interesting statement in the Boston Globe article:

    This is the first time the Kennedy School has posted a rebuttal [Dershowitz’s] to a working paper on its website, under a new policy announced by Dean David Ellwood in response to widespread complaints about the Mearsheimer-Walt paper.

    This seems to me very damaging in that one of the contentions in the W&M article is that Jews exercise undue and disparate influence in academia and use this influence to defend Israel from criticism and attack those who are critical of Israel. I also noticed that Dershowitz referenced the Holocaust four times in the body of his article and five times in the footnotes.

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  • @Paul C.
    We're all slaves to those who create fiat currency. It's one thing if an honest government (likely is no such thing) controlled a central bank and the interest went towards funding this limited government's requirements (national security, infrastructure, clean water, clean air). Income tax wouldn't be necessary and the country wouldn't be in debt. Perhaps there would be some debt if we were importing much more than exporting, but on the flip side we could become a creditor nation once again.

    Our demise started in 1913, when the Fed and IRS were created. Since then, the thieves have been gaming the system. We're all slaves to them. And the system is rigged so it cannot be challenged. No one is pushing back against the Fed except a few, Ron & Rand Paul and some others. The Fed is a criminal enterprise. It's counterfeiting by private bankers. It has bankrupted not just America, but nearly every nation on earth (private central banks). If this is not the case, what nations do not have debt?

    The way things are heading, if you protest the Fed, you'll be accused of being an anti-semite. Soon they'll be a prison sentence attached to it, just like there is in Europe and Russia for questioning the Holocaust narrative (fable).

    Paul, Everything you said makes sense, but you simply don’t understand.

    One of our resident shamans has pronounced that…

    Debt is good.

    What’s even better is that we dumb goyim don’t even have to think about it because according to an anointed one who’s already “thought about these things,” and has done our thinking for us, all we have to do is kneel at the altar of the WSJ and listen to the voice of the New Messiah, Paul Krugman.

    Even better, the man-god-authority derives his wisdom and authority from “intuition.” Now how can you argue with that? Especially if you happen to be a dumb goy?

    PS: Remember, “We Owe It To Ourselves, evun! How kool izzat?

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Jacques,

    I loved reading Mencken's book called "Prejudices" and recommend you try it.

    He loved to bust the "Comstock" balls and one of the essays dealt with the graveyard of dead gods.

    Of course Mencken had a very mischievous nature and penned a Fake News article about the 1st POTUS to have a bathtub. Crazier was the fact that MANY of his peer journalists did not "vet" H.L.'s false facts and they reveled in the article.

    In my mind, no modern writer bites as funny and hard as him. We need a Mencken now. (SIGH) What the hell am I drunk? No ZUSA-sponsored "rag" would allow thought like his.

    Gluten nachten.

    We do need a Mencken now but sadly his talents would be wasted on the morons that infest this “fabulous” debt-fueled madhouse.

    Meanwhile, Mr Unz has provided us with a treasure trove of great stuff, The American Mercury included.

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/

    Ya’ll remember now, “Debt be good.”

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  • @Incitatus

    “geokat62, Rurik, Chuck Orloski, JacquesSheete — you guys have me drinking from a firehose.”
     
    Put on your glasses S2C. That’s not a firehose, it’s a toilet.

    “…but the German PEOPLE had been starved to death — 800,000 died, and of those civilians who did not die, many were ruined for life due to malnutrition…”
     
    1.18% of population, a terrible loss. About the same percentage as Belgian civilians (1.16%, many executed by Germans). But wait! Tiny Serbia also lost 800,000 civilians! What a coincidence! Consider populations: Germany 64.9 million; Serbia 4.5 million. Germany lost 1.18%, Serbia 17.78%! Are Germans the only victims worth lamenting?

    Why did Willie and Frankie-Joe invade neighbors S2C? Club Hun vacations? Wrong turn on maneuvers? Mass hypnosis by (whisper) those evil (you know who)? Why did Willie persist in the slaughter when von Moltke knew they’d failed 9 Sep ’14?

    “…it [Rathenaus death] was an ad hoc action, not a plot, like the assassination of the Archduke…The German university student-hotheads who killed Rathenau…”
     
    “Ad hoc action?” The assassins were members of Organisation Consul, a former Freikorps unit. OC murdered 354+ people 1919-22, including Matthias Erzberger and Rathenau. OC’s ‘spiritual aims’ were: “The cultivation and dissemination of nationalist thinking; warfare against all anti-nationalists and internationalists; warfare against Jewry, Social Democracy and Leftist-radicalism; fomentation of internal unrest in order to attain the overthrow of the anti-nationalist Weimar constitution…” After murdering Rathenau, OC members formed the Viking League and eventually became related to the SA. Thank goodness they were ‘ad hoc’ and not plotters!

    “I raise these tedious details not because it’s going to change what happened in Germany — that’s over, you can’t change history.”
     
    You’re too modest S2C. Gross editing and omission can change history. Your posts are ample proof! The only WW victims were Germans and Italians!

    “That’s why I argue that it is essential to “deny the holocaust,” so that this cycle of lying/hate/destruction/war can be broken. Rudolf & “Inconvenient History” & CODOH (as well as Mark Weber at IHR) do a tremendous service in exposing the truth of the history…”
     
    Hypocrisy pealed like an onion and just as odious. 'Deny the holocaust’ to engender peace? Rehab Nazis to stop war? Indeed. You’d name a scout chapter after John Wayne Gacy to instill wholesome Christian ethos!

    Back to CODOH? Wally teach you the secret handshake? You forgot “ No name calling, level playing field debate here.” That’s the trademark wink-wink invitation isn’t it? Rather like smothering rotten meat with heavy seasoning to keep the uninitiated from retching.

    S2C why did Italy and Nazi Germany invade Greece? Another Hun holiday? Sunspots? Alien telekinesis? Whoops, forgot. Was it those evil (well, you know who)?

    “Thank goodness they were ‘ad hoc’ and not plotters!”

    HAHAAAAAA. That was the best! It reminded me of the scene from Hogwarts when Headmistress Mcgonagle accosts poor Harry caught practicing unsanctioned, ad-hoc, wizardry:
    “Mr. Potter you are a plotter!”

    I daren’t read the whole thing again, for fear of splitting my sides.

    Best

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    (A deep State mass socialization sigh)

    Figures the Maven Sham would support reverse-Catholic evangelization of American kids with Harry Potter books.

    Selah What Happened To The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and The Hardy Boys?

    Post scriptum: Uh, Maven, do you wear cap & gown along with your red tights and pointy tail wardrobe?
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  • @Art
    Sam --- sorry for the delay in responding. Thanks for the extensive reply.

    The sum of your comment is that “debt is good.” This is true if one builds something that truly advances the future. China has built whole cities with debt, that no one lives within.

    There is nothing written in stone that says that the only way to finance the future is by debt and interest. It seems that all these money systems have a shelf life – that they all fail and come to a crashing end, with a large devaluation.

    It can be observed that in time the money creator, always ends up with the wealth to buy back what was created. This is a giant flaw in the interest/debt system of money.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Art,
    Well, I am glad you read the post through the end and did so without preconceptions. There are a few key points that merit repeating.

    1. There is no special magic to debt, in and of itself. It is the way of issuing IOUs to our own future to make available financing for our endeavours; businesses, scientific advancements etc what they require in the current period. Without that ability, envisioning America as it stands today with its highways, cities, teleconnnectivity etc is simply impossible. Had we depended only on current savings, say since the 1940s, it would’ve surely been the case that we’d have progressed to a far lower stage of development than that which we enjoy today.

    2. No one, at least no sane person, claims that we can issue unlimited debt. That is simply an acerbic exaggeration employed by those who do not understand; or care not to, and even if they did, due to some twisted article of faith, they find it difficult to reconcile. Economics deals with optimal debt, at least at the macroeconomic level. There are trade-offs with inflation e.g.

    3. It is important to think of capital in this context. Issuance of debt is importantly dependent on the amount of capital we have or can generate. The US has more capital than any other nation. China e.g despite its gdp being around the same, has nowhere near the amount of capital we possess.

    4. China has indeed built excessively in some areas, but that is hardly the case with the U.S. We haven’t built nearly enough for our prospects, or to maintain what we already have.

    5. Think about this: our personal savings today is about 3.8% of our personal income. We need about 10% of personal income in spending for new investments and depreciation replacement in order to achieve our growth targets. Otherwise, we’ll end in a recession and unemployment. Where are we going to get that extra 6.2%? We can say to ourselves that we do not need that growth; that we are content to live with high levels of unemployment; or we can issue debt against future income and savings to achieve our targets. It’s a stark choice. In the Long Run, we are all dead. Take care of today and the future shall take care of itself. This is a major insight in Macroeconomics: if we are unwilling to do what needs doing today, sagely “worrying about the future”, we’ll surely lose the present and doom our future. That was a paraphrase of Mr. Keynes.

    6. I’ve said often, we do not have the knowledge to know exactly what is needed for optimal functioning of the economy, but we do have a fairly good approximation. At times, due to human nature, we will flirt with excesses of wealth concentration in the hands of a few which can lead to recessions. It has always been my view that in those times we engage in debt relief for the common man and even the wealth gap to a more acceptable level. And then there is taxation of income. All of this has to be done while accepting an inviolate human instinct: self-interest. There is obviously the common good which we are all endowed with, but take away self-interest (viz communism) and you end up with no interest.

    7. Anyway, good talking and hope I’ve been less obtuse than usual.

    P.S. Note to my friend Jacques Sheete: you were wondering if Krugman is going to get the Nobel for his intooishun. Well, he did get the Nobel back in 2008 and the committee in its various addresses did remark on his uncommon intuition.

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  • @Art
    Sam --- sorry for the delay in responding. Thanks for the extensive reply.

    The sum of your comment is that “debt is good.” This is true if one builds something that truly advances the future. China has built whole cities with debt, that no one lives within.

    There is nothing written in stone that says that the only way to finance the future is by debt and interest. It seems that all these money systems have a shelf life – that they all fail and come to a crashing end, with a large devaluation.

    It can be observed that in time the money creator, always ends up with the wealth to buy back what was created. This is a giant flaw in the interest/debt system of money.

    Think Peace --- Art

    We’re all slaves to those who create fiat currency. It’s one thing if an honest government (likely is no such thing) controlled a central bank and the interest went towards funding this limited government’s requirements (national security, infrastructure, clean water, clean air). Income tax wouldn’t be necessary and the country wouldn’t be in debt. Perhaps there would be some debt if we were importing much more than exporting, but on the flip side we could become a creditor nation once again.

    Our demise started in 1913, when the Fed and IRS were created. Since then, the thieves have been gaming the system. We’re all slaves to them. And the system is rigged so it cannot be challenged. No one is pushing back against the Fed except a few, Ron & Rand Paul and some others. The Fed is a criminal enterprise. It’s counterfeiting by private bankers. It has bankrupted not just America, but nearly every nation on earth (private central banks). If this is not the case, what nations do not have debt?

    The way things are heading, if you protest the Fed, you’ll be accused of being an anti-semite. Soon they’ll be a prison sentence attached to it, just like there is in Europe and Russia for questioning the Holocaust narrative (fable).

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    Paul, Everything you said makes sense, but you simply don't understand.

    One of our resident shamans has pronounced that...

    Debt is good.

    What's even better is that we dumb goyim don't even have to think about it because according to an anointed one who's already "thought about these things," and has done our thinking for us, all we have to do is kneel at the altar of the WSJ and listen to the voice of the New Messiah, Paul Krugman.

    Even better, the man-god-authority derives his wisdom and authority from "intuition." Now how can you argue with that? Especially if you happen to be a dumb goy?

    PS: Remember, "We Owe It To Ourselves, evun! How kool izzat?

    , @Rurik
    Thank you Paul C,

    there is only one way out of the dilemma the world faces from these people, and that way is straight though the Fed

    as long as they're in possession of that counterfeiting machine, they can conjure as many trillions as they require at any given moment to corrupt and debase anything they touch, especially politicians.

    that is the reason we have endless wars and a permanent torture camp and the unimaginable suffering in the Middle East and elsewhere, and why Europe is being systematically murdered off.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ClUFlHDknpU/hqdefault.jpg

    because Satanic ogres like the one above have unlimited tribal power of the purse to destroy anything and everything on their whim$

    there is only one way out, and that is straight though Rothschild's central banking schemes
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  • @SolontoCroesus
    geokat62, Rurik, Chuck Orloski, JacquesSheete -- you guys have me drinking from a firehose.

    Thanks for all the commentary and also links. I was acquainted with Inconvenient Truth -- it's Rudolf's work -- but I'd never read anything like that first-person testimony about Buchenwald and Hitchcock.

    Also grateful for the Henry C K Liu link, "Nazism and the German Economic Miracle" Miraclehttp://www.henryckliu.com/page105.html

    Some of Liu's analysis is a bit Off, imo, because he omits crucial facts: he writes,
    "Not having been a battlefield in World War I, Germany in 1933 was not physically in ruins, as it was in 1945. . . and that is true in terms of infrastructure, but the German PEOPLE had been starved to death -- 800,000 died, and of those civilians who did not die, many were ruined for life due to malnutrition. That's not a small thing in terms of the motivations for some of the Third Reich's policies and goals.

    As regards Rathenau -- Liu is very critical of Germans for assassinating him, and of course that set off deep animosity among some Jews -- it was one of the prime motives for Rabbi Stephen Wise's seething hatred of Hitler. Now, Hitler didn't assassinate Rathenau or even order or arrange his death -- it was an ad hoc action, not a plot, like the assassination of the Archduke. Edwin Black argues that the deaths of those 800,000 Germans was the fault of Germany's economic planners; Black basically says it was their own fault if German civilians died. But Rathenau was in charge of balancing Germany's economy and supplying the military, so if Black is consistent, he would have to single out Rathenau for special blame (he does not). The German university student-hotheads who killed Rathenau may have been aware of Rathenau's role in the domestic situation that brought about the defeat of the German people.

    I raise these tedious details not because it's going to change what happened in Germany -- that's over, you can't change history. But I listen to US representatives plotting the similar actions against states -- like Iran, Syria, North Korea, Russia -- "let's sanction them until they behave," or "let's disrupt their economy so totally that their people will riot and overthrow the government -- that we don't like."

    Those are acts of war. They are motivated by hatred, and the hatred is engendered by propagandist and liars -- just as Benjamin Ginsberg detailed that Jews & British controlled media and propaganda to get Americans to go to war against Germany. Furthermore, they're stupid and counterproductive: if we know that stable states are less likely to wage war or engage in violent acts, they why set about deliberately destabilizing states in order to "make them behave?" It makes no sense at all: one hopes desperately that these legislators are not raising children.


    That's why I argue that it is essential to "deny the holocaust," so that this cycle of lying/hate/destruction/war can be broken. Rudolf & "Inconvenient History" & CODOH (as well as Mark Weber at IHR) do a tremendous service in exposing the truth of the history -- striking at the roots--, and Giraldi does tremendous service in exposing how the same folks are carrying out the same aggressive tactics -- the tree that has grown & borne bitter fruit.


    When and how can our representative be made to understand that they are engaging in not only criminal acts but in grossly counterproductive policies? While USA is busy fighting a "war on terror," China is eating our lunch. 50 years ago we were in grad school with a Japanese fellow who returned to Japan and helped build Japan's high-speed rail system; he's retired now, but USA has not achieved what Japan has achieved -- we fought Viet Nam, then a Cold War, then a War on Terror, while our water and sewer lines rotted and our mass transit systems degraded. THOSE are costs of the "special relationship" with a lying and hate-filled zionist Israel.

    “geokat62, Rurik, Chuck Orloski, JacquesSheete — you guys have me drinking from a firehose.”

    Put on your glasses S2C. That’s not a firehose, it’s a toilet.

    “…but the German PEOPLE had been starved to death — 800,000 died, and of those civilians who did not die, many were ruined for life due to malnutrition…”

    1.18% of population, a terrible loss. About the same percentage as Belgian civilians (1.16%, many executed by Germans). But wait! Tiny Serbia also lost 800,000 civilians! What a coincidence! Consider populations: Germany 64.9 million; Serbia 4.5 million. Germany lost 1.18%, Serbia 17.78%! Are Germans the only victims worth lamenting?

    Why did Willie and Frankie-Joe invade neighbors S2C? Club Hun vacations? Wrong turn on maneuvers? Mass hypnosis by (whisper) those evil (you know who)? Why did Willie persist in the slaughter when von Moltke knew they’d failed 9 Sep ’14?

    “…it [Rathenaus death] was an ad hoc action, not a plot, like the assassination of the Archduke…The German university student-hotheads who killed Rathenau…”

    “Ad hoc action?” The assassins were members of Organisation Consul, a former Freikorps unit. OC murdered 354+ people 1919-22, including Matthias Erzberger and Rathenau. OC’s ‘spiritual aims’ were: “The cultivation and dissemination of nationalist thinking; warfare against all anti-nationalists and internationalists; warfare against Jewry, Social Democracy and Leftist-radicalism; fomentation of internal unrest in order to attain the overthrow of the anti-nationalist Weimar constitution…” After murdering Rathenau, OC members formed the Viking League and eventually became related to the SA. Thank goodness they were ‘ad hoc’ and not plotters!

    “I raise these tedious details not because it’s going to change what happened in Germany — that’s over, you can’t change history.”

    You’re too modest S2C. Gross editing and omission can change history. Your posts are ample proof! The only WW victims were Germans and Italians!

    “That’s why I argue that it is essential to “deny the holocaust,” so that this cycle of lying/hate/destruction/war can be broken. Rudolf & “Inconvenient History” & CODOH (as well as Mark Weber at IHR) do a tremendous service in exposing the truth of the history…”

    Hypocrisy pealed like an onion and just as odious. ‘Deny the holocaust’ to engender peace? Rehab Nazis to stop war? Indeed. You’d name a scout chapter after John Wayne Gacy to instill wholesome Christian ethos!

    Back to CODOH? Wally teach you the secret handshake? You forgot “ No name calling, level playing field debate here.” That’s the trademark wink-wink invitation isn’t it? Rather like smothering rotten meat with heavy seasoning to keep the uninitiated from retching.

    S2C why did Italy and Nazi Germany invade Greece? Another Hun holiday? Sunspots? Alien telekinesis? Whoops, forgot. Was it those evil (well, you know who)?

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    "Thank goodness they were ‘ad hoc’ and not plotters!"

     

    HAHAAAAAA. That was the best! It reminded me of the scene from Hogwarts when Headmistress Mcgonagle accosts poor Harry caught practicing unsanctioned, ad-hoc, wizardry:
    "Mr. Potter you are a plotter!"

    I daren't read the whole thing again, for fear of splitting my sides.

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    , @Rurik

    The only WW victims were Germans and Italians!
     
    what a lowlife POS

    all anyone has heard for the last 70 years is blubbering over the so-called "six million", to the point of mass nausea. Leaders in Europe are punished for telling the simple truth of history, that the Holocaust was a minor detail of the war, hardly worth mentioning. But pick up a history textbook today and it's like a kosher kvetch fest.

    and WTF are you doing here anyways?!

    didn't I give you an assignment?

    you were to go read or listen to the words of Benjamin Freedman's speech, and then tell us all in what manner he was in error, remember?

    and now you're slinking back in here, and making a mockery of yourself

    if you can't repudiate the words of Freedman's speech, then all you're doing is pointing out how right and perceptive and spot on the money that he was, with your craven silence

    now go read and learn something, and once you have something salient to add to the conversation, then come back and edify us all.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Hi Incitatus

    Too much time laboring in the vineyard.
     
    I noticed the patience and precision deployed in your many responses, reassuringly familiar, as they are, for those in search of facts and reason. Notably #945, where your systematic methods unravel Rivulet's melodrama and virtue signalling, not to mention his typical rambles, in which the body and end banish the start 'twixt brambles!

    I have often struggled to reconcile my admiration for Ronald Reagan's stature as a leader - I suppose I would've been a Reagan Democrat had I been of voting age at the time - with some of the economic policies unleashed during that period; Supply Side Economics essentially a ruse cooked up by Art Laffer & Co. And debt trajectory entirely unwarranted as it merely bolstered defense expenditures with little accruing to the private economy. I held much hope that Trump should recognise debt as a means to undertake great infrastructure outlays, reminiscent of FDR sans military buildup, but my hopes are likely headed for the rocks. The man speaks of a 10x expansion in our nuclear arsenal!

    Just ordered 'Churchill & Orwell', both men great influences from opposite ends of the spectrum. Although I reckon both despised illiberal censorship. Promises to be a great read. Thanks!

    Best

    Sam,

    “…Supply Side Economics essentially a ruse cooked up by Art Laffer & Co.”

    Laffer racked up a high score on my peasant distrust meter. Almost pitchfork level. His Curve, appropriately born on a used napkin, simply reprised perpetual motion legends. Not surprised he’s made mischief in Kansas, but sure he’ll escape all blame.

    “…debt trajectory entirely unwarranted as it merely bolstered defense expenditures with little accruing to the private economy.”

    Couldn’t agree more.

    Oh, I like WW2 battleships as much as the next person. And seeing those 16-inchers let off a salvo is better than viagra. But seemed an expensive way to excavate Lebanon. SuperWeapons F-35, V-22 Osprey, and the Littoral Combat Ship are natural children of such spending. Comic book fantasies? Complexity designed to pad the bill? One thing’s certain: Kelly Johnson’s KISS is dead and buried.

    The F-35 falls well into the ‘what were they thinking’ category:

    “The aircraft and its parts aren’t as reliable as expected, and it’s taking longer to repair them…20 percent of the jets…await spares…suppliers can’t keep up with…production while fixing returned parts.”

    “…spare parts.[availability]..is getting worse, affecting fly rates” and pilot training…Reliability metrics linked to “critical failures have worsened…improvement “has stagnated.”

    “…lifecycle costs”…are “likely to increase significantly” over the current $1.2 trillion estimate and affect budgets of the services…”

    “…fleetwide availability of F-35s to fly when needed is 52 percent, short of…the 80 percent needed to start combat testing next year…”

    “The goal…is 20 hours between failures after 75,000 hours of flight. As of August…models [averaged]…7.3 hours between failures after 34,197 hours of flight…”

    -Tony Capaccio The Hartford Courant (Bloomberg) 28 Jun 2017
    http://touch.courant.com/#section/4321/article/p2p-93967874/

    52% availability means the legendary $155 million/plane understates operational cost: $298+ million for an F-35 that flies! NIC operations and maintenance, gifts that’ll keep on taking in future.

    “I held much hope that Trump should recognise debt as a means to undertake great infrastructure outlays, reminiscent of FDR sans military buildup, but my hopes are likely headed for the rocks.”

    Agree, and not just due to nuclear delusions:

    “President Donald Trump requested 70 F-35s in his fiscal 2018 budget request, up from 63 last year. The two primary House defense committees signaled this week that they want to add as many as 17 more.”

    Hope to read #1020 and #1063 with care. Offhand, deficit spending scares me less than the irresponsibility it engenders. If we paid for what we spend, would the F-35 happen?

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Brother geokat62,

    Your U.R. comments are a special gift, a learning experience for me. Thank you very much!

    I wonder if Rep. Gerry Connally (D. Va) is an AIPAC member?

    If so, I feel The Lobby might attack him for truthfully asserting, "We are sleepwalking into an armed conflict."

    (Sigh)

    As you know, AIPAC supports and capitalizes on ZUSA citizens' deep "insouciant" slumber whether it be walking, standing, or sitting.

    Also, I am convinced that The Lobby would love to enhance their organization's Profit and Loss (P&L) margin by their not having to "cough up" so much private money to charismatic & ambitious legislators and presidents for them to do what Israel wants.

    Given the scary times we now endure, geokat, including ZUSA President Trump's looming break with the Iran deal, I sense a terrible calamity afoot where The Lobby can simply tell a "dead ender" Congressman, "You are fired" and not be concerned whatsoever with dum goyim "voter" reaction.

    Selah Support a Russian Financed Audit Of The Lobby!

    I wonder if Rep. Gerry Connally (D. Va) is an AIPAC member?

    Bought and paid for, Chuck:

    Rep. Gerald E. Connolly faces constituents’ ire in making the case for striking Syria

    ……

    He starts by reminding his audience of President Lyndon B. Johnson’s Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which got the United States more deeply involved in Vietnam, and then talks about President George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq.

    “Syria is different,” Connolly insists. “We have a president who is a reluctant warrior. . . . Anyone who believes he has some secret plan to put troops in Syria and invade it — I don’t think anyone really believes that about him.”

    Then Connolly makes the moral case that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad must be stopped from gassing his own people. “This is a great test. This is not a pleasant moment,” he says, before conceding of the use-of-force resolution: “I don’t even know if it will pass the House.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-gerald-e-connolly-faces-constituents-ire-in-making-the-case-for-striking-syria/2013/09/05/827351f4-1646-11e3-be6e-dc6ae8a5b3a8_story.html?utm_term=.5e5f460e3ce3

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    Re, Rep. Connally: "Bought and paid for."

    Hey geokat62,

    Now I'm anxious to see what our Knesset Congress does with POT(Z)USA Trump's move to decertify the Iran deal.

    Thanks for delivering the (pitiful) "goods" on little Gerry from ole Virginny!
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  • @jacques sheete
    I thought I'd read most of Mancken's stuff, but I missed this. Thanks for the heads up. While reading the article, I kept thinking of Trump.

    The man was blatant, crude, overly confidential, devious, tyrannical, vainglorious, sometimes quite childish. One often observed in him a certain pathetic wistfulness, a reaching out for a grand manner that was utterly beyond him.

    - H.L. Mencken Roosevelt: An Autopsy (1920)
    http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2013/06/roosevelt-autopsy-by-hl-mencken-1920.html

     

    In that respect, are these times....No, I won't ask that...!

    Jacques,

    I loved reading Mencken’s book called “Prejudices” and recommend you try it.

    He loved to bust the “Comstock” balls and one of the essays dealt with the graveyard of dead gods.

    Of course Mencken had a very mischievous nature and penned a Fake News article about the 1st POTUS to have a bathtub. Crazier was the fact that MANY of his peer journalists did not “vet” H.L.’s false facts and they reveled in the article.

    In my mind, no modern writer bites as funny and hard as him. We need a Mencken now. (SIGH) What the hell am I drunk? No ZUSA-sponsored “rag” would allow thought like his.

    Gluten nachten.

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    We do need a Mencken now but sadly his talents would be wasted on the morons that infest this "fabulous" debt-fueled madhouse.

    Meanwhile, Mr Unz has provided us with a treasure trove of great stuff, The American Mercury included.


    http://www.unz.org/Pub/

    Ya'll remember now, "Debt be good."

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Jacques Sbeete: "Did you take insult lessons from our fave shaman?"

    No, Jacques. (Sigh) He's probably too expensive, and besides, The Maven Sham's insults deinspire; they are consistenly corny, "low energy."

    Born when Eisenhower was president, my first insult lessons were taught by another Jew, Don Rickles.

    However, I owe all of my often crude satire "bent" to Jonathan Swift, H.L. Mencken, and H.S. Thompson, and of course the vintage Mad Magazine.

    (Sigh) I also like to nag sometimes to get points across, and simultaneously, I want to keep-the-peace especially with a good thinker/decent guy such as yourself.

    But every now & then, I confess to being a dumb prick goyim and I resort to "rubbing" another's "face in it."

    So before signing off this Friday the 13th, I ask you to look at the most bizarrely unique & creepy POT(Z)USA speech (linked below) that I have ever heard in all my lifetime.
    (Brrrr)

    https://youtu.be/7IYAuN6SLxE

    Selah Animal Farm Commandment: "Debt is Good, Bankruptcy is Cool, Only Dumb Good Goyim Pay Taxes, and Farmer Jones is bad... the stupid fucker supports the 4-legged Arms for Iran deal!

    No, Jacques. (Sigh) He’s probably too expensive, and besides, The Maven Sham’s insults deinspire; they are consistenly corny, “low energy.”

    Yeah, no kiddink.

    It really torques me that he stole the Cringeworthy title too. Now we’re on radio silence ‘er sumthin…runs off wit da title and we never get to cringe again. I’ll never get it back! I’m jealous and bitter about it too!

    I thought you’d get a kick outta this piece from Mencken. It’s not quite 2000 years old, but it’s still timeless.

    THESE books all belong to that literature of Katzenjammer which now flourishes so amazingly in the United States… they all embody attempts to find out what is the matter with the Republic. I wish I could add that one or another of them solves the problem, or at least contributes something to its illumination, but that would be going somewhat beyond the facts.

    -H.L. Mencken, Autopsy (4 Reviews), , September 1927, pp. 123-125 – PDF

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1927sep-00123

    I bet ol H.L. is rolling in his grave. He never got to hear that debt is good. Interest is better. Usury is supreme. Debt, the gift that keeps on giving. Except for the chump what duz da paying. (Sorry for the rhyme.)

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  • @jacques sheete

    That is something I’d expect The Maven Sham to have written.
     
    Ouch! Now that stings, my friend! Did you take insult lessons from our fave shaman or one of his shamsters? I hope not! ;)

    Anyway, I hear what you're saying and you make a very good point. I maintain that things really never do change fundamentally, but I will agree that the particulars of the times are new.

    The working classes have always been threatened but never before has the ruling class had access to cheap energy in abundance, the benefits of the Industrial Rev, the ability to create unlimited debt out of nothing, or the ability to brainwash and pacify the masses so thoroughly.

    Also, this time the threats are gargantuan, not to the nation, per se, but to the middle class schmuck, particularly the dumb goyim.

    But hey, Like I said, the Messiah has arrived as announced by our very own guru who's "studied these things." The answer, clearly, is more debt. What could go wrong???

    PS:


    Mencken considered the Rough Rider as being equally militant as the Kaiser, without of course a point helmet & chest full of medals.
     
    A little known fact is that the US military sported like decorations including the pickelhalbe. Teddy was a fashion freak so eschewed the stuff. Instead he had his goofy tough guy get up custom tailored by Brooks Brothers, if I remember correctly. He was your typical cornball poseur, but that may merely be my bitterness and envy speaking.

    Remember: Debt is gooood!

    Jacques Sbeete: “Did you take insult lessons from our fave shaman?”

    No, Jacques. (Sigh) He’s probably too expensive, and besides, The Maven Sham’s insults deinspire; they are consistenly corny, “low energy.”

    Born when Eisenhower was president, my first insult lessons were taught by another Jew, Don Rickles.

    However, I owe all of my often crude satire “bent” to Jonathan Swift, H.L. Mencken, and H.S. Thompson, and of course the vintage Mad Magazine.

    (Sigh) I also like to nag sometimes to get points across, and simultaneously, I want to keep-the-peace especially with a good thinker/decent guy such as yourself.

    But every now & then, I confess to being a dumb prick goyim and I resort to “rubbing” another’s “face in it.”

    So before signing off this Friday the 13th, I ask you to look at the most bizarrely unique & creepy POT(Z)USA speech (linked below) that I have ever heard in all my lifetime.
    (Brrrr)

    Selah Animal Farm Commandment: “Debt is Good, Bankruptcy is Cool, Only Dumb Good Goyim Pay Taxes, and Farmer Jones is bad… the stupid fucker supports the 4-legged Arms for Iran deal!

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    No, Jacques. (Sigh) He’s probably too expensive, and besides, The Maven Sham’s insults deinspire; they are consistenly corny, “low energy.”
     
    Yeah, no kiddink.

    It really torques me that he stole the Cringeworthy title too. Now we're on radio silence 'er sumthin...runs off wit da title and we never get to cringe again. I'll never get it back! I'm jealous and bitter about it too!

    I thought you'd get a kick outta this piece from Mencken. It's not quite 2000 years old, but it's still timeless.

    THESE books all belong to that literature of Katzenjammer which now flourishes so amazingly in the United States… they all embody attempts to find out what is the matter with the Republic. I wish I could add that one or another of them solves the problem, or at least contributes something to its illumination, but that would be going somewhat beyond the facts.

    -H.L. Mencken, Autopsy (4 Reviews), , September 1927, pp. 123-125 - PDF
    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1927sep-00123

     

    I bet ol H.L. is rolling in his grave. He never got to hear that debt is good. Interest is better. Usury is supreme. Debt, the gift that keeps on giving. Except for the chump what duz da paying. (Sorry for the rhyme.)
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  • Anybody know what Pat Buchanan has to say about the firing?

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  • @Art
    Sam --- sorry for the delay in responding. Thanks for the extensive reply.

    The sum of your comment is that “debt is good.” This is true if one builds something that truly advances the future. China has built whole cities with debt, that no one lives within.

    There is nothing written in stone that says that the only way to finance the future is by debt and interest. It seems that all these money systems have a shelf life – that they all fail and come to a crashing end, with a large devaluation.

    It can be observed that in time the money creator, always ends up with the wealth to buy back what was created. This is a giant flaw in the interest/debt system of money.

    Think Peace --- Art

    There is nothing written in stone that says that the only way to finance the future is by debt and interest. It seems that all these money systems have a shelf life – that they all fail and come to a crashing end, with a large devaluation.

    C’mon Art! What are you, some wise goy? A smart ar$e goy?

    Doncha know that debt is always good cuz the Great Guru Jughead the K-man sez it is and he gets published in the WSJ?? And not only that but he has colleagues who say he has intuition. How’s them apples? I wonder if he’ll get a Nobel prize for Intooishin???

    Anyway don’t you know that the Shaman has studied these things? How dare you have the audacity think when you have these authorities in high places telling you what’s good for you? You think you can question the mutterings of the greatest horse breeder on the planet?

    Wink, wink! ;)

    PS: Ask the shaman if he now has a clue that there’s a huge set of differences between public and private debt. He never heard of such things til I mentioned it to him. He pretends to be an expert on Hume, so he’s quite the expert you know. Never heard of the man before I mentioned him, either.

    PSS: Art, think peace? Think debt is gooood!

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  • Look, saw it for years, and I have nothing but contempt for them and their idiotic faith is really just a confidence game.

    I will not speak up, and I know my own mind and understand.

    When they day comes, they will be dust in the wind and not know what hit them.

    Am I calling for their extirpation? No, but when people understand that the whole thing is a lie from people who see the rest of us and animals, the deal will be over.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Jacques,

    I admired H.L.'s work including his support for Theodore Dreiser and contempt for Teddy Roosevelt.

    Mencken considered the Rough Rider as being equally militant as the Kaiser, without of course a point helmet & chest full of medals.

    Speaking as a Bro here, I suggest you rethink that our times are "not fundamentally different" than all others.

    (A deep State sigh)

    That is something I'd expect The Maven Sham to have written.

    I thought I’d read most of Mancken’s stuff, but I missed this. Thanks for the heads up. While reading the article, I kept thinking of Trump.

    The man was blatant, crude, overly confidential, devious, tyrannical, vainglorious, sometimes quite childish. One often observed in him a certain pathetic wistfulness, a reaching out for a grand manner that was utterly beyond him.

    - H.L. Mencken Roosevelt: An Autopsy (1920)

    http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2013/06/roosevelt-autopsy-by-hl-mencken-1920.html

    In that respect, are these times….No, I won’t ask that…!

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    Jacques,

    I loved reading Mencken's book called "Prejudices" and recommend you try it.

    He loved to bust the "Comstock" balls and one of the essays dealt with the graveyard of dead gods.

    Of course Mencken had a very mischievous nature and penned a Fake News article about the 1st POTUS to have a bathtub. Crazier was the fact that MANY of his peer journalists did not "vet" H.L.'s false facts and they reveled in the article.

    In my mind, no modern writer bites as funny and hard as him. We need a Mencken now. (SIGH) What the hell am I drunk? No ZUSA-sponsored "rag" would allow thought like his.

    Gluten nachten.
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