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    Marwan Barghouti has stopped drinking water. He started his hunger strike thirty-six days ago, together with 1,500 other Palestinians who are being held in Israeli prisons. Each day the strikers have been drinking water mixed with salt, the salt needed to keep their electrolytes functioning to stay alive, but their health has reached a critical...
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    It engages in illegal mass, arbitrary arrests of Palestinians who do not reside in Israel but are nevertheless subject to control by the Israeli military authorities who have a relatively free hand on the West Bank.
     
    No different than any lawful, civilized military occupation, for instance that of the USA in Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, and Japan.

    The Palestinians, after their defeat in a war they started, a war in which they promised to destroy Israel and massacre its Jewish population, had and still have a continued obligation to meekly accept the just terms of the victor. They could have had the most prosperous non-oil state in the Middle East they done so in 1949.

    It would not be as nice as Japan, as they are barbarians compared to the Japanese. Nonetheless, the Palestinians failed themselves, morally and practically, but not emulating the Japanese example under American occupation. Or of the Hong Kongese under British occupation.

    Re-post because this was added to the queue as a comment when it was meant as a reply to Lot. Spare us the phony indignation Lot. I’m late to the party but since this is only the 2nd reply it’s likely to be read by many and I can’t let the ad nauseam propaganda talking points stand w/o addressing them. The Palestinians didn’t start the 1967 war (if that’s what you disingenuously allude to). It was started by the Jews with a sneak attack on Egypt’s air force parked on the ground in rows (and before you even try to push the Egyptian military build up or the closing of the straits of Tiran as the justification, your own Generals and (ex Irgun terrorist) Prime Minister Menachem Begin already debunked those excuses). The “Jewish state” euphemistically called it a “preemptive strike”. From that pov, Hitlers attack on Poland was also a preemptive strike as was Pearl Harbor.

    Now..if instead you were referencing the 1948 war..Palestinians didn’t start that war either. To borrow another contemporary term, it was an intervention by the Arab states who intervened to stop the slaughter, the massacres and the ethnic cleansing of indigenous Palestinians by Eastern European Jew terrorists. Today it would be called R2P..the Responsibility to Protect.

    By the time the Jews had arbitrarily declared themselves a state, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians (of the eventual 3/4 of a million) had already been driven out of what is now called Israel, and hundreds of their villages (of the eventual 500 or so) had already been destroyed.

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  • @Reality Check
    Spare us the phony indignation Lot. I'm late to the party but since this is only the 2nd reply it's likely to be read by many and I can't let the ad nauseam propaganda talking points stand w/o addressing them. The Palestinians didn't start the 1967 war (if that's what you disingenuously allude to). It was started by the Jews with a sneak attack on Egypt's air force parked on the ground in rows (and before you even try to push the Egyptian military build up or the closing of the straits of Tiran as the justification, your own Generals and (ex Irgun terrorist) Prime Minister Menachem Begin already debunked those excuses). The "Jewish state" euphemistically called it a "preemptive strike". From that pov, Hitlers attack on Poland was also a preemptive strike as was Pearl Harbor.

    Now..if instead you were referencing the 1948 war..Palestinians didn't start that war either. To borrow another contemporary term, it was an intervention by the Arab states who intervened to stop the slaughter, the massacres and the ethnic cleansing of indigenous Palestinians by Eastern European Jew terrorists. Today it would be called R2P..the Responsibility to Protect.

    By the time the Jews had arbitrarily declared themselves a state, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians (of the eventual 3/4 of a million) had already been driven out of what is now called Israel, and hundreds of their villages (of the eventual 500 or so) had already been destroyed.

    Why didn’t this appear as a reply to Lot? I intended it to be…And now nobody will see it. Great…thanks.

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  • @Lot

    It engages in illegal mass, arbitrary arrests of Palestinians who do not reside in Israel but are nevertheless subject to control by the Israeli military authorities who have a relatively free hand on the West Bank.
     
    No different than any lawful, civilized military occupation, for instance that of the USA in Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, and Japan.

    The Palestinians, after their defeat in a war they started, a war in which they promised to destroy Israel and massacre its Jewish population, had and still have a continued obligation to meekly accept the just terms of the victor. They could have had the most prosperous non-oil state in the Middle East they done so in 1949.

    It would not be as nice as Japan, as they are barbarians compared to the Japanese. Nonetheless, the Palestinians failed themselves, morally and practically, but not emulating the Japanese example under American occupation. Or of the Hong Kongese under British occupation.

    Where did my reply go? It was up for one day and thoroughly debunked Lot’s talking points..and now it’s gone.

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  • Spare us the phony indignation Lot. I’m late to the party but since this is only the 2nd reply it’s likely to be read by many and I can’t let the ad nauseam propaganda talking points stand w/o addressing them. The Palestinians didn’t start the 1967 war (if that’s what you disingenuously allude to). It was started by the Jews with a sneak attack on Egypt’s air force parked on the ground in rows (and before you even try to push the Egyptian military build up or the closing of the straits of Tiran as the justification, your own Generals and (ex Irgun terrorist) Prime Minister Menachem Begin already debunked those excuses). The “Jewish state” euphemistically called it a “preemptive strike”. From that pov, Hitlers attack on Poland was also a preemptive strike as was Pearl Harbor.

    Now..if instead you were referencing the 1948 war..Palestinians didn’t start that war either. To borrow another contemporary term, it was an intervention by the Arab states who intervened to stop the slaughter, the massacres and the ethnic cleansing of indigenous Palestinians by Eastern European Jew terrorists. Today it would be called R2P..the Responsibility to Protect.

    By the time the Jews had arbitrarily declared themselves a state, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians (of the eventual 3/4 of a million) had already been driven out of what is now called Israel, and hundreds of their villages (of the eventual 500 or so) had already been destroyed.

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    Why didn't this appear as a reply to Lot? I intended it to be...And now nobody will see it. Great...thanks.
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  • Israel is illegitimate. It’s as simple as that. Until it is dissolved there will be conflict and US-led multi-trillion-dollar wars for Israel as America’s cities, infrastructure and social programs rot for lack of adequate funding:

    http://www.countercurrents.org/hart050410.htm

    https://leaksource.wordpress.com/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-iraq-and-isis-the-connection/

    Meet the war makers who also putsched Ukraine for the Zionist neocon’s PNAC

    https://mastersofdeception.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/masters-of-deception-chapter-fourteen/

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-the-israel-lobby-works/

    The problem of Israel extends far beyond its yet-undeclared borders:

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  • Amos says:
    @Greasy William
    nobody cares about the Palestinians. Saudis and Gulf Arabs just sold them out... again.

    Alas, more jihadi propaganda. While Israel is not helping its case through the settlement project, it is completely within its rights to keep a feral, combustive, militant society in check through any effective means.

    It is a “homo puer robustus” type of dilemma – Do you keep the wild one in chains sacrificing moral sentiment, or do you give in to sentiment, unshackle the captive and risk an attack.

    Rationally, rights are not absolutes. One’s “right” to statehood cannot come at the expense of another’s right to peaceful and secure living. Sad for

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  • @Rurik
    Hey Sam, the thing about bringing up chocolate for me, vis-a-vis the occupied territories, is how little things I read about often tweak me, for their pettiness and snarky cruelty.

    Like if you have two children, one Jewish and one Arab, and you're responsible for both those children's welfare, (as the government of Israel is legally bound to be for both the Jewish citizens and the Palestinians they occupy). Right?

    Ok, then what happens is when I hear the word chocolate, I can't help but think of how the petty, black-hearted scum in the Israeli government decided that one of the things they were going to specifically prevent from getting into Gaza was chocolate. of all things.

    And I'm sitting there thinking, here's this shining light unto the nations, and there are two children there, and one is Jewish and the other is Arab. And then the man who's responsible for the welfare of both these children, gives to the Jewish child two pieces of chocolate candy, and to the other nothing. And I think what a rat. What a petty, mean-spirited, asshole

    I'm reminded of that picture of the Arminian genocide, where the guy is taunting the starving children with a piece of bread.

    http://www.gazetawarszawska.com/images/armenian_genocide_16.jpg

    but those aren't his children, they're the children of a different religion, so he taunts them and mocks their suffering.

    charming people these Jewish Zionists, eh?

    Love this post! Too all like minded free thinkers, share this on the internet!

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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @Greasy William
    I feel like I was kinda being a dick in my above reply to you, but on the other hand you deliberately provoked me. I sorta feel bad because I consider you an internet friend but I also sorta don't feel bad.

    I take no responsibility for my actions and offer you only a half assed apology.

    I am surprised/interested that you would describe the Jews as a "global fiend". Outside of our conflict with the Arab/Islamic world, what don't you like about us? I would like to remind you that our conflict with the Arab/Islamic world, regardless of how you feel about it, is not truly global. Most of the world doesn't really care one way or the other who rules the Land of Israel.

    Now don't get me wrong, Jews are an extremely unlikeable people. This is not a new thing and although Eastern Ashkenazim (what I am) have the worst case of it, other Jewish groups also tend to be exceedingly unpleasant, at least in my experience. Even die hard Judeophile Winston Churchill thought Jews were unlikeable nation wreckers*. But just because we are jerks doesn't make us bad people.

    You will never find people more likable than Muslims or Latinos, but would you want 10s of millions of them in your country? Affability is like physical beauty: it makes life more pleasant but it isn't really that important.

    *I disagree that we are nation wreckers. Churchill's position, not mine.

    there is no doubt Greasy, that you have a charm. Your unapologetic, brutally unsentimental perspective is, I consider a boon to this site.

    There are a lot of Israelis that think and feel exactly as you do, but few with the nads to come out and say it. So yea, I enjoy your participation even if I consider your attitude towards the Pals as reprehensible, to say the least, but then in your defense I suppose it could be said that white Americans felt pretty much the same way about “injuns” a few generations back.

    I am surprised/interested that you would describe the Jews as a “global fiend”.

    not Jews per se Greasy, but Jewish banksters and international Zionism/Eternal Wars and the subversion of Western culture and life.

    There are very many Jews I like and even have great affection for, some in my own extended family. I know a Jewish gal that has a heart as big as life, and who feels obvious angst at the sight of any suffering of any kind. Jews like Carl Sagan have inspired my mind and jolted my intellectual curiosity. Jews like Ayn Rand have taught us all the value of sound money, and the dangers of collectivism. Michael Rivero is one of my favorite bloggers. So I don’t and never would give a blanket condemnation of the extraordinary Jewish people.

    Now that said, I hate contrived wars for fun and profit. I hate human misery for the sake of it- to amuse an elite who’ve grown so aloof in their arrogance, that for petty amusement they foist wars and strife and conflict. Also some of them want to genocide my phenotype off the planet.

    Sorry, I have to go. The boss just said get off that damn computer!

    I’ll try to respond later if I get the chance. (don’t want to be cut off for the holiday weekend)

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  • @Sam Shama
    I am confused, I admit, trying to sort through all these atrocities Jews have been responsible for, both during Iraq I and II. Of course, those happen to be mere flickers in the scheme of things which started all the way back from Egypt and the Pharaoh, aren't they?

    Brutal honesty in your world are only those items which fit the narrative carefully crafted following the brilliant principle of post hoc ergo propter hoc. I concede the case.

    Brutal honesty in your world are only those items which fit the narrative carefully crafted following the brilliant principle of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

    Sorry for taking so long to respond, Sam. It took me awhile to dig up the specific proposed legislation that a few humane members of Congress had the temerity to introduce in the Knesset West, er, I mean Capitol Hill, back in 2000.

    The title of the proposed bill was Humanitarian Exports Leading to Peace Act. Here is an excerpt of the Findings section from the proposed bill:

    SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

    The Congress finds the following:

    (1) The Iraqi people suffered under a decade of war and continue to suffer under a repressive regime and the most comprehensive economic sanctions ever imposed on any country.

    (2) The economic sanctions have caused extraordinary hardship on the people of Iraq and failed to weaken the leadership of Iraq, and have undermined the institutions of civil society which are necessary for democratic political life.

    (3) The investigative panel established by the United Nations Security Council and other independent bodies have confirmed that the United Nations Oil-for-Food program has failed to adequately meet the needs of the Iraqi people.

    (4) According to the United States Department of Agriculture, Iraq represents a potential market for nearly $1,000,000,000 in agricultural products from the United States.

    (5) The sanctions regime continues to harm the Iraqi population for the crimes of its leaders and has not served either the goal of the United States of punishing Iraq’s leaders or disarming weapons of mass destruction.

    (6) Rigorous weapons inspections and adequate provision for civilian needs in Iraq are not mutually exclusive.

    (7) The devastating effect of the economic sanctions on Iraq has been reported by numerous international and independent bodies, including the following:

    (A) The Center for Economic and Social Rights of the United Nations documented dra- matic increases in malnutrition and disease, leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children under the age of 5 since 1991.

    (B) UNICEF reported in 1995 that ‘‘no significant movement towards food security can be achieved so long as the embargo remains in place’’. Further, despite the Oil-for-Food Program, UNICEF reported in July 1999 survey findings that ‘‘Both the infant mortality rate and the under-five mortality rate consistently show a major increase in mortality over the 10 years preceding the survey. More specifically, the results show that the infant mortality rate has increased from 47 deaths per 1,000 live births for the period 1984–89, to 108 deaths per 1,000 live births for the period 1994–99.’’.

    (C) A report authorized by the United National Security Council on March 30, 1999, found that ‘‘the gravity of the humanitarian situation of the Iraqi people is indisputable and cannot be overstated.’’. Further, it emphasized that ‘‘Even if not all suffering in Iraq can be imputed to external factors, especially sanctions, the Iraqi people would not be undergoing such deprivations in the absence of the prolonged measures imposed by the Security Council and the effects of the war’’.

    (D) UNICEF and the World Food Program found in 1997 that ‘‘One out of every 4 young Iraqi children is malnourished. More than 750,000 children are suffering from malnutrition’’.

    https://www.congress.gov/106/bills/hr3825/BILLS-106hr3825ih.pdf

    The sponsor of the proposed legislation had been Rep. Conyers and it incredibly had 39 cosponsors, one among whom was the courageous Rep. Cynthia McKinney (we all know what The Lobby had in store for her).

    Despite garnering this level of support, the Humanitarian Exports Leading to Peace Act of 2000 was quietly killed for some reason and the harshest sanctions ever imposed on a country continued for another 3 years.

    I concluded that since a representative of The Lobby was on the record with an admission that AIPAC opposed the bill, even conceding the organization recognized the sponsors had “very compassionate reasons” for proposing it, this very fact, along with its initial aim to remove Saddam from power, demonstrated to me The Lobby was willing to have the sanctions continue, and was, therefore, responsible for the deaths of half a million innocent Iraqi children who Ms. Korbelová, in a moment of honesty, was willing to admit that the price had been worth it.

    If you have drawn a different conclusion from this information, Sam, I’m all ears.

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  • @Rurik
    Ok, that was pretty lazy, I admit

    but there still is a shred of truth to it, insofar as they are victimized by savages

    in spite of the recent troll attack, this isn't about me. I never pretended to be any kind of paragon of virtue. But what I've said about the Palestinians is all true, and my only agenda is in tying to speak out against injustice, and stop the global ravages of the Fiend.

    If more people knew what was happening in the holy land/Levant, there'd be less hate and misery and injustice in the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHhByXIwr8

    I feel like I was kinda being a dick in my above reply to you, but on the other hand you deliberately provoked me. I sorta feel bad because I consider you an internet friend but I also sorta don’t feel bad.

    I take no responsibility for my actions and offer you only a half assed apology.

    I am surprised/interested that you would describe the Jews as a “global fiend”. Outside of our conflict with the Arab/Islamic world, what don’t you like about us? I would like to remind you that our conflict with the Arab/Islamic world, regardless of how you feel about it, is not truly global. Most of the world doesn’t really care one way or the other who rules the Land of Israel.

    Now don’t get me wrong, Jews are an extremely unlikeable people. This is not a new thing and although Eastern Ashkenazim (what I am) have the worst case of it, other Jewish groups also tend to be exceedingly unpleasant, at least in my experience. Even die hard Judeophile Winston Churchill thought Jews were unlikeable nation wreckers*. But just because we are jerks doesn’t make us bad people.

    You will never find people more likable than Muslims or Latinos, but would you want 10s of millions of them in your country? Affability is like physical beauty: it makes life more pleasant but it isn’t really that important.

    *I disagree that we are nation wreckers. Churchill’s position, not mine.

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    there is no doubt Greasy, that you have a charm. Your unapologetic, brutally unsentimental perspective is, I consider a boon to this site.

    There are a lot of Israelis that think and feel exactly as you do, but few with the nads to come out and say it. So yea, I enjoy your participation even if I consider your attitude towards the Pals as reprehensible, to say the least, but then in your defense I suppose it could be said that white Americans felt pretty much the same way about "injuns" a few generations back.

    I am surprised/interested that you would describe the Jews as a “global fiend”.
     
    not Jews per se Greasy, but Jewish banksters and international Zionism/Eternal Wars and the subversion of Western culture and life.

    There are very many Jews I like and even have great affection for, some in my own extended family. I know a Jewish gal that has a heart as big as life, and who feels obvious angst at the sight of any suffering of any kind. Jews like Carl Sagan have inspired my mind and jolted my intellectual curiosity. Jews like Ayn Rand have taught us all the value of sound money, and the dangers of collectivism. Michael Rivero is one of my favorite bloggers. So I don't and never would give a blanket condemnation of the extraordinary Jewish people.

    Now that said, I hate contrived wars for fun and profit. I hate human misery for the sake of it- to amuse an elite who've grown so aloof in their arrogance, that for petty amusement they foist wars and strife and conflict. Also some of them want to genocide my phenotype off the planet.

    Sorry, I have to go. The boss just said get off that damn computer!

    I'll try to respond later if I get the chance. (don't want to be cut off for the holiday weekend)
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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @Greasy William
    If you want to support the Palestinians fine, but that was the worst analogy I've ever seen.

    Ok, that was pretty lazy, I admit

    but there still is a shred of truth to it, insofar as they are victimized by savages

    in spite of the recent troll attack, this isn’t about me. I never pretended to be any kind of paragon of virtue. But what I’ve said about the Palestinians is all true, and my only agenda is in tying to speak out against injustice, and stop the global ravages of the Fiend.

    If more people knew what was happening in the holy land/Levant, there’d be less hate and misery and injustice in the world.

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    I feel like I was kinda being a dick in my above reply to you, but on the other hand you deliberately provoked me. I sorta feel bad because I consider you an internet friend but I also sorta don't feel bad.

    I take no responsibility for my actions and offer you only a half assed apology.

    I am surprised/interested that you would describe the Jews as a "global fiend". Outside of our conflict with the Arab/Islamic world, what don't you like about us? I would like to remind you that our conflict with the Arab/Islamic world, regardless of how you feel about it, is not truly global. Most of the world doesn't really care one way or the other who rules the Land of Israel.

    Now don't get me wrong, Jews are an extremely unlikeable people. This is not a new thing and although Eastern Ashkenazim (what I am) have the worst case of it, other Jewish groups also tend to be exceedingly unpleasant, at least in my experience. Even die hard Judeophile Winston Churchill thought Jews were unlikeable nation wreckers*. But just because we are jerks doesn't make us bad people.

    You will never find people more likable than Muslims or Latinos, but would you want 10s of millions of them in your country? Affability is like physical beauty: it makes life more pleasant but it isn't really that important.

    *I disagree that we are nation wreckers. Churchill's position, not mine.
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  • @Rurik

    Rurik tries his bs when he goes around routinely calling Blacks dindu nuffinks
     
    I've written about a billion words here on Unz, and never once have I ever referred to blacks or anyone else as "dindu"s or anything even close to that. I simply don't use such expressions.

    So you're obviously a lying POS, huh?

    Now I have used the word 'nigger' before, and would use it again, if that's the term that most eloquently describes what can't really be described otherwise.

    niggers = https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e0_1445422238

    I don't believe in political correctness and I calls a spade a spade

    I'm not defending the Palestinian people out of some misplaced sentimentality. No mewling, bleeding heart here

    I defend the Palestinian people because they are like the woman in that video, and are being put upon and savaged by the moral equivalent of the nigger in that video

    If you want to support the Palestinians fine, but that was the worst analogy I’ve ever seen.

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    Ok, that was pretty lazy, I admit

    but there still is a shred of truth to it, insofar as they are victimized by savages

    in spite of the recent troll attack, this isn't about me. I never pretended to be any kind of paragon of virtue. But what I've said about the Palestinians is all true, and my only agenda is in tying to speak out against injustice, and stop the global ravages of the Fiend.

    If more people knew what was happening in the holy land/Levant, there'd be less hate and misery and injustice in the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHhByXIwr8
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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @anonymous
    Eagle: Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.

    Rurik to Eagle: what a charming person you are....

    Hypocrisy and crocodile tears anyone? Rurik tries his bs when he goes around routinely calling Blacks dindu nuffinks and niggers. You are nothing but a bullshit artist. You don't give a shit about Palestinians. You only write melodramatic shite to stroke your own ego. You write your weepy-drippy drama to basically flog your dog.

    Rurik tries his bs when he goes around routinely calling Blacks dindu nuffinks

    I’ve written about a billion words here on Unz, and never once have I ever referred to blacks or anyone else as “dindu”s or anything even close to that. I simply don’t use such expressions.

    So you’re obviously a lying POS, huh?

    Now I have used the word ‘nigger’ before, and would use it again, if that’s the term that most eloquently describes what can’t really be described otherwise.

    niggers = https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e0_1445422238

    I don’t believe in political correctness and I calls a spade a spade

    I’m not defending the Palestinian people out of some misplaced sentimentality. No mewling, bleeding heart here

    I defend the Palestinian people because they are like the woman in that video, and are being put upon and savaged by the moral equivalent of the nigger in that video

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    If you want to support the Palestinians fine, but that was the worst analogy I've ever seen.
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  • @L.K
    Plus, Who would build the chosen's houses in the land they stole?

    Who Is Building Israel's Homes?
    There are around 50,000 foreign workers in the trade, of whom 82% are Palestinians

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.652117

    ...So far, the venture has trained about 1,000 workers( Israelis ), of whom 700 went to work. (Training is four months and when the newly trained workers actually start to work and see that the profession is a hard one, many drop out.)
    ...
    Meni Daboosh, 24, of Kfar Sava, a deputy site manager at a Tidhar project in Be’er Yaakov, is one with doubts. He’d like more Israelis in construction, but as a manager feels they can be less reliable than Chinese, European or Palestinian workers. Many Israelis shy from the hard work, he says. “Also, Israeli workers play tricks with you. You give them a job, even a pretty simple one; come back 20 minutes later and discover that the guy’s been smoking a cigarette or playing on his smartphone the whole time. Why would a manager want workers who demand more money and have less output? That may change, but that’s how it is now.”


    :-)

    I think you are struggling with the obvious. Israelis Do the engineering design while Palestinians lay the bricks. It’s called comparative specialization. You want Palestinian engineering?

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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    But, uh, where are the menfolk?
     
    umm, joining Hamas and heroically resisting occupation and oppression? Perhaps languishing (or being tortured) in an Israeli dungeon?

    Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.
     
    what a charming person you are

    No, of course not, you are not the kind of guy who gets sentimental over cynical Pallywood propaganda stunts.
     
    you mean like fourteen Holocaust movies a month on average?

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?
     
    you mock empathy eagle, but it was empathy that led to the founding of Israel. The empathy of the Western world for the suffering of the Jews following the Holocaust. But the Western world never imagined that they were signing up for the likes of you, and Arial Sharon and the perpetrators of 9/11 - and a perpetual state of genocidal hatred, racial supremacism and murder in the holy land.

    If they'd of known what kind vision that 'god's people' had in mind:

    >>warning<<
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsWAVASIAAAqOi5.jpg:large

    I doubt they'd have vouchsafed the shitty little state in the first place. The only question now is how long the planet is going to suffer these profane sadists and moral scourge in the holy land.

    BTW, I've spoken harshly of 'the Jews' here of late, and I want to qualify that by meaning only the Jews like eagle here who mock human suffering and demonstrate the kind of sick pathology I'm talking about. I certainly don't want to impugn the character of the very many honorable and decent Jews who agree that the Palestinians are getting a very raw deal and that the state of affairs is dire and untenable.

    Also there are far more "Christian" Zionists than Jews here in the States that are all for genociding the Palestinians f0r their own selfish delusions of a 'rapture'

    They're the ones that vote for Lindsey Graham and they're arguably far more vile than even eagle is, because they wrap their demonic bloodlust in the sacred shroud of the Christ, the Lamb of Peace, and surly profane their souls to damnation by doing so.

    peace

    Eagle: Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.

    Rurik to Eagle: what a charming person you are….

    Hypocrisy and crocodile tears anyone? Rurik tries his bs when he goes around routinely calling Blacks dindu nuffinks and niggers. You are nothing but a bullshit artist. You don’t give a shit about Palestinians. You only write melodramatic shite to stroke your own ego. You write your weepy-drippy drama to basically flog your dog.

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    Rurik tries his bs when he goes around routinely calling Blacks dindu nuffinks
     
    I've written about a billion words here on Unz, and never once have I ever referred to blacks or anyone else as "dindu"s or anything even close to that. I simply don't use such expressions.

    So you're obviously a lying POS, huh?

    Now I have used the word 'nigger' before, and would use it again, if that's the term that most eloquently describes what can't really be described otherwise.

    niggers = https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e0_1445422238

    I don't believe in political correctness and I calls a spade a spade

    I'm not defending the Palestinian people out of some misplaced sentimentality. No mewling, bleeding heart here

    I defend the Palestinian people because they are like the woman in that video, and are being put upon and savaged by the moral equivalent of the nigger in that video

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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @Eagle Eye


    But, uh, where are the menfolk?
     
    umm, joining Hamas and heroically resisting occupation and oppression? Perhaps languishing (or being tortured) in an Israeli dungeon?
     
    So, since you like to perceive things emotionally, in YOUR EMOTIONAL TERMS, your fictitious, "heroical" Gazans are hoping to inflict, on a massive scale, THIS:

    >>warning<<
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsWAVASIAAAqOi5.jpg:large

    BTW, Gaza still has less than one-third the population of Singapore (1.85 million vs. 5.6 million), and about half the area (141 square miles vs. 277.6 square miles). Singapore's per capita GDP is about $90,000. Strangely, Wikipedia does not give a per capita GDP figure for the hard-working, hard-breeding Gazans.

    Gaza has about 24 miles of Mediterranean beaches.

    eagle, if you’re going to ‘quote’ me, then kindly don’t misquote me

    k?

    I said the men of Gaza are joining Hamas in order to heroically resist genocide and oppression

    just as the Jews of the Warsaw ghetto heroically resisted

    just as the Amerindian heroically resisted

    this guy is heroically resisting ..

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  • @Rurik

    But, uh, where are the menfolk?
     
    umm, joining Hamas and heroically resisting occupation and oppression? Perhaps languishing (or being tortured) in an Israeli dungeon?

    Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.
     
    what a charming person you are

    No, of course not, you are not the kind of guy who gets sentimental over cynical Pallywood propaganda stunts.
     
    you mean like fourteen Holocaust movies a month on average?

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?
     
    you mock empathy eagle, but it was empathy that led to the founding of Israel. The empathy of the Western world for the suffering of the Jews following the Holocaust. But the Western world never imagined that they were signing up for the likes of you, and Arial Sharon and the perpetrators of 9/11 - and a perpetual state of genocidal hatred, racial supremacism and murder in the holy land.

    If they'd of known what kind vision that 'god's people' had in mind:

    >>warning<<
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsWAVASIAAAqOi5.jpg:large

    I doubt they'd have vouchsafed the shitty little state in the first place. The only question now is how long the planet is going to suffer these profane sadists and moral scourge in the holy land.

    BTW, I've spoken harshly of 'the Jews' here of late, and I want to qualify that by meaning only the Jews like eagle here who mock human suffering and demonstrate the kind of sick pathology I'm talking about. I certainly don't want to impugn the character of the very many honorable and decent Jews who agree that the Palestinians are getting a very raw deal and that the state of affairs is dire and untenable.

    Also there are far more "Christian" Zionists than Jews here in the States that are all for genociding the Palestinians f0r their own selfish delusions of a 'rapture'

    They're the ones that vote for Lindsey Graham and they're arguably far more vile than even eagle is, because they wrap their demonic bloodlust in the sacred shroud of the Christ, the Lamb of Peace, and surly profane their souls to damnation by doing so.

    peace

    [RURIK] You’d be like a cruel teenage boy with no cat to set on fire. Like a vicious psychopathic orc with only a sex doll to rape and brutalize.

    [Eagle] For the benefit of [us] less experienced readers, could you explain how the perpetrator of such acts feels?

    After all, empathy and feelings are apparently quite important to you.

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?

    [RURIK]you mock empathy eagle, …

    THAT’s what you mean by “empathy?”

    Let the record show that it was RURIK who called upon far-away, unknown Gazan boys to

    join[] Hamas and heroically resist[] occupation and oppression

    RURIK’s express suggestion is that hundreds of thousands of Gazan boys sacrifice themselves as extras in an emotionally satisfying video game for the enjoyment of progressive Westerners and for the benefit of cynical Arab rulers.

    Is that the kind of “EMPATHY” we want?

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  • But, uh, where are the menfolk?

    umm, joining Hamas and heroically resisting occupation and oppression? Perhaps languishing (or being tortured) in an Israeli dungeon?

    So, since you like to perceive things emotionally, in YOUR EMOTIONAL TERMS, your fictitious, “heroical” Gazans are hoping to inflict, on a massive scale, THIS:

    >>warning<<

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsWAVASIAAAqOi5.jpg:large

    BTW, Gaza still has less than one-third the population of Singapore (1.85 million vs. 5.6 million), and about half the area (141 square miles vs. 277.6 square miles). Singapore's per capita GDP is about $90,000. Strangely, Wikipedia does not give a per capita GDP figure for the hard-working, hard-breeding Gazans.

    Gaza has about 24 miles of Mediterranean beaches.

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    eagle, if you're going to 'quote' me, then kindly don't misquote me

    k?

    I said the men of Gaza are joining Hamas in order to heroically resist genocide and oppression

    just as the Jews of the Warsaw ghetto heroically resisted

    just as the Amerindian heroically resisted

    this guy is heroically resisting ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2l5IugtEh8
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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @Eagle Eye

    You’d be like a cruel teenage boy with no cat to set on fire. Like a vicious psychopathic orc with only a sex doll to rape and brutalize.
     
    For the benefit of less us experienced readers, could you explain how the perpetrator of such acts feels?

    After all, empathy and feelings are apparently quite important to you.

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?

    But, uh, where are the menfolk?

    umm, joining Hamas and heroically resisting occupation and oppression? Perhaps languishing (or being tortured) in an Israeli dungeon?

    Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.

    what a charming person you are

    No, of course not, you are not the kind of guy who gets sentimental over cynical Pallywood propaganda stunts.

    you mean like fourteen Holocaust movies a month on average?

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?

    you mock empathy eagle, but it was empathy that led to the founding of Israel. The empathy of the Western world for the suffering of the Jews following the Holocaust. But the Western world never imagined that they were signing up for the likes of you, and Arial Sharon and the perpetrators of 9/11 – and a perpetual state of genocidal hatred, racial supremacism and murder in the holy land.

    If they’d of known what kind vision that ‘god’s people’ had in mind:

    >>warning<<

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsWAVASIAAAqOi5.jpg:large

    I doubt they'd have vouchsafed the shitty little state in the first place. The only question now is how long the planet is going to suffer these profane sadists and moral scourge in the holy land.

    BTW, I've spoken harshly of 'the Jews' here of late, and I want to qualify that by meaning only the Jews like eagle here who mock human suffering and demonstrate the kind of sick pathology I'm talking about. I certainly don't want to impugn the character of the very many honorable and decent Jews who agree that the Palestinians are getting a very raw deal and that the state of affairs is dire and untenable.

    Also there are far more "Christian" Zionists than Jews here in the States that are all for genociding the Palestinians f0r their own selfish delusions of a 'rapture'

    They're the ones that vote for Lindsey Graham and they're arguably far more vile than even eagle is, because they wrap their demonic bloodlust in the sacred shroud of the Christ, the Lamb of Peace, and surly profane their souls to damnation by doing so.

    peace

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    [RURIK] You’d be like a cruel teenage boy with no cat to set on fire. Like a vicious psychopathic orc with only a sex doll to rape and brutalize.

     

    [Eagle] For the benefit of [us] less experienced readers, could you explain how the perpetrator of such acts feels?

    After all, empathy and feelings are apparently quite important to you.

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?
     

    [RURIK]you mock empathy eagle, ...
     
    THAT's what you mean by "empathy?"

    Let the record show that it was RURIK who called upon far-away, unknown Gazan boys to


    join[] Hamas and heroically resist[] occupation and oppression
     
    RURIK's express suggestion is that hundreds of thousands of Gazan boys sacrifice themselves as extras in an emotionally satisfying video game for the enjoyment of progressive Westerners and for the benefit of cynical Arab rulers.

    Is that the kind of "EMPATHY" we want?

    , @anonymous
    Eagle: Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.

    Rurik to Eagle: what a charming person you are....

    Hypocrisy and crocodile tears anyone? Rurik tries his bs when he goes around routinely calling Blacks dindu nuffinks and niggers. You are nothing but a bullshit artist. You don't give a shit about Palestinians. You only write melodramatic shite to stroke your own ego. You write your weepy-drippy drama to basically flog your dog.

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  • @Rurik

    Pals having a state of their own. But there are conditions, most important ones being security and Jerusalem.
     
    Jerusalem?

    Oh, the irony! Chocolate was not exempt from the restrictions
     
    geeze Sam. Just say it. Chocolate was banned. Along with toys and other trifles as a petty torment. The kinds of petty torments, like forcing people to stand in long lines at check points or drive on separate roads that are intended to humiliate these people. There was no military justification for banning chocolate. Petty torments, like a man holding food in front of starving children, taunting them.

    I state that as a simple matter of fact.
     
    or to impugn their character?

    So you might say, all in all, they have their chocolate and eat it too.
     
    I'll call that your 'let them eat cake' moment

    does that depict a Jewish man holding the bread?
     
    Don't know. I simply posted it as an example of a callous asshole, like the kind that would prevent the children of Gaza, who suffer so much, to even enjoy a meager moment of pleasure in their otherwise destitute lives.

    I don't have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps, but deep in their souls, knowing that they've been robbed of everything. Their land, their homes, their sovereignty and their dignity. And ignored by the vile Arab governments and the sanctimonious Zio-West. May they all rot in hell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9s7t_rM9fY

    I don’t have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable.

    You “don’t have to go to Gaza to know” that he population of Gaza more than quintupled from 1970 to 2014, from 340,000 to 1,820,000, according to U.S. Census (!) figures.

    You “don’t have to go to Gaza to know” that the place is five times more intolerable now than in 1970. The only known industries are rocket building and tunnel digging.

    On the plus side, they now get more U.S. and EU money and, can buy plenty of chocolate.

    As a little consolation, you “don’t have to go to Gaza to know” about chocolate. You can just buy chocolate at any gas station.

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  • @Rurik

    Pals having a state of their own. But there are conditions, most important ones being security and Jerusalem.
     
    Jerusalem?

    Oh, the irony! Chocolate was not exempt from the restrictions
     
    geeze Sam. Just say it. Chocolate was banned. Along with toys and other trifles as a petty torment. The kinds of petty torments, like forcing people to stand in long lines at check points or drive on separate roads that are intended to humiliate these people. There was no military justification for banning chocolate. Petty torments, like a man holding food in front of starving children, taunting them.

    I state that as a simple matter of fact.
     
    or to impugn their character?

    So you might say, all in all, they have their chocolate and eat it too.
     
    I'll call that your 'let them eat cake' moment

    does that depict a Jewish man holding the bread?
     
    Don't know. I simply posted it as an example of a callous asshole, like the kind that would prevent the children of Gaza, who suffer so much, to even enjoy a meager moment of pleasure in their otherwise destitute lives.

    I don't have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps, but deep in their souls, knowing that they've been robbed of everything. Their land, their homes, their sovereignty and their dignity. And ignored by the vile Arab governments and the sanctimonious Zio-West. May they all rot in hell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9s7t_rM9fY

    I don’t have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps, but deep in their souls, knowing that they’ve been robbed of everything. Their land, their homes, their sovereignty and their dignity. And ignored by the vile Arab governments …

    Ah yes, deep in their souls, all that’s left, other than a yearning for chocolate and whisky, is

    the knowledge that they’ve been robbed of everything.

    (Excuse me while I go find a tissue.)

    Uh, maybe you’re unaware of a few facts.

    The Gazans live in their home territory of Gaza, in their own homes, ruled over by the Muslim Hamas thugocracy, the women terrorized into hiding their faces and submitting to the resurgence of polygamy.

    BTW did you read the recent piece in the NYT about how Hamas terrorizes gays and Christians in Gaza? Or is the NYT keeping quiet about this, as they did for about a year about the holocaust, and for decades about the “kulak” genocide in the USSR that was hushed by by Walter Duranty?

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  • @Rurik

    The ONLY reason the Palestinian people still exist at all is because of the weakness and faithlessness of the Israeli secular population.
     
    ahh Greasy, but that's where you're wrong

    I've given this a little thought, and I've come to the summation that there was always a reason for keeping a certain number of Palestinians alive.

    They needed them, you see. You need them. The Palestinian people are a necessity to the Jewish, Zionist id. A requirement, if you will. Yes, they had to be subjugated, and rendered absolutely powerless, but they also had to be kept that way for perpetuity. It is an absolute necessity for the Jews to be able to humiliate another people. Without them, who would the Jews torment as a sign that their god favors them, eh Greasy? If there were only Jews in Israel, how would the Jews express their 'superiority' over others, as the Torah and Talmud demand? As sure as you're sitting there at your computer, you know as well as I do that they'd eat their own. In no time flat the Sephardic Jews with darker skin and a lower IQ would be targeted as the children of Ishmael. Or the secular Jews with their worship of Globohomoism. Isn't that right Greasy?

    But with the Palestinians there to murder and humiliate, the Jews as are happy as pigs in shit. All the angst they feel at being what and who they are, can be ameliorated by punishing the Pals, and lording it over them.

    Your founders knew what they were doing when they left a certain amount of Arabs alive. They knew the Jewish pathological need to kick others and impose themselves upon others, or what's the point?

    So yea Greasy, if you're hoping for the day that the last Palestinian is murdered, then you'll be waiting a long time. The people who set up Israel understood the Jewish id far better than you think they did. The Pals are part of you. They're a necessary part of the expression of your identity, going back to your psychotic god of hatred and vengeance and wrath. Your entire identity is based around enemies and genocide and slaughtering others and stealing their property. If you kill all the Arabs, your Passover Seders will feel empty and drab. Who would you torment and grind down and persecute?

    You'd be like a cruel teenage boy with no cat to set on fire. Like a vicious psychopathic orc with only a sex doll to rape and brutalize. It just wouldn't be the same.

    You’d be like a cruel teenage boy with no cat to set on fire. Like a vicious psychopathic orc with only a sex doll to rape and brutalize.

    For the benefit of less us experienced readers, could you explain how the perpetrator of such acts feels?

    After all, empathy and feelings are apparently quite important to you.

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?

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    But, uh, where are the menfolk?
     
    umm, joining Hamas and heroically resisting occupation and oppression? Perhaps languishing (or being tortured) in an Israeli dungeon?

    Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.
     
    what a charming person you are

    No, of course not, you are not the kind of guy who gets sentimental over cynical Pallywood propaganda stunts.
     
    you mean like fourteen Holocaust movies a month on average?

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?
     
    you mock empathy eagle, but it was empathy that led to the founding of Israel. The empathy of the Western world for the suffering of the Jews following the Holocaust. But the Western world never imagined that they were signing up for the likes of you, and Arial Sharon and the perpetrators of 9/11 - and a perpetual state of genocidal hatred, racial supremacism and murder in the holy land.

    If they'd of known what kind vision that 'god's people' had in mind:

    >>warning<<
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsWAVASIAAAqOi5.jpg:large

    I doubt they'd have vouchsafed the shitty little state in the first place. The only question now is how long the planet is going to suffer these profane sadists and moral scourge in the holy land.

    BTW, I've spoken harshly of 'the Jews' here of late, and I want to qualify that by meaning only the Jews like eagle here who mock human suffering and demonstrate the kind of sick pathology I'm talking about. I certainly don't want to impugn the character of the very many honorable and decent Jews who agree that the Palestinians are getting a very raw deal and that the state of affairs is dire and untenable.

    Also there are far more "Christian" Zionists than Jews here in the States that are all for genociding the Palestinians f0r their own selfish delusions of a 'rapture'

    They're the ones that vote for Lindsey Graham and they're arguably far more vile than even eagle is, because they wrap their demonic bloodlust in the sacred shroud of the Christ, the Lamb of Peace, and surly profane their souls to damnation by doing so.

    peace

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  • L.K says:
    @Rurik

    The ONLY reason the Palestinian people still exist at all is because of the weakness and faithlessness of the Israeli secular population.
     
    ahh Greasy, but that's where you're wrong

    I've given this a little thought, and I've come to the summation that there was always a reason for keeping a certain number of Palestinians alive.

    They needed them, you see. You need them. The Palestinian people are a necessity to the Jewish, Zionist id. A requirement, if you will. Yes, they had to be subjugated, and rendered absolutely powerless, but they also had to be kept that way for perpetuity. It is an absolute necessity for the Jews to be able to humiliate another people. Without them, who would the Jews torment as a sign that their god favors them, eh Greasy? If there were only Jews in Israel, how would the Jews express their 'superiority' over others, as the Torah and Talmud demand? As sure as you're sitting there at your computer, you know as well as I do that they'd eat their own. In no time flat the Sephardic Jews with darker skin and a lower IQ would be targeted as the children of Ishmael. Or the secular Jews with their worship of Globohomoism. Isn't that right Greasy?

    But with the Palestinians there to murder and humiliate, the Jews as are happy as pigs in shit. All the angst they feel at being what and who they are, can be ameliorated by punishing the Pals, and lording it over them.

    Your founders knew what they were doing when they left a certain amount of Arabs alive. They knew the Jewish pathological need to kick others and impose themselves upon others, or what's the point?

    So yea Greasy, if you're hoping for the day that the last Palestinian is murdered, then you'll be waiting a long time. The people who set up Israel understood the Jewish id far better than you think they did. The Pals are part of you. They're a necessary part of the expression of your identity, going back to your psychotic god of hatred and vengeance and wrath. Your entire identity is based around enemies and genocide and slaughtering others and stealing their property. If you kill all the Arabs, your Passover Seders will feel empty and drab. Who would you torment and grind down and persecute?

    You'd be like a cruel teenage boy with no cat to set on fire. Like a vicious psychopathic orc with only a sex doll to rape and brutalize. It just wouldn't be the same.

    Plus, Who would build the chosen’s houses in the land they stole?

    Who Is Building Israel’s Homes?
    There are around 50,000 foreign workers in the trade, of whom 82% are Palestinians

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.652117

    …So far, the venture has trained about 1,000 workers( Israelis ), of whom 700 went to work. (Training is four months and when the newly trained workers actually start to work and see that the profession is a hard one, many drop out.)

    Meni Daboosh, 24, of Kfar Sava, a deputy site manager at a Tidhar project in Be’er Yaakov, is one with doubts. He’d like more Israelis in construction, but as a manager feels they can be less reliable than Chinese, European or Palestinian workers. Many Israelis shy from the hard work, he says. “Also, Israeli workers play tricks with you. You give them a job, even a pretty simple one; come back 20 minutes later and discover that the guy’s been smoking a cigarette or playing on his smartphone the whole time. Why would a manager want workers who demand more money and have less output? That may change, but that’s how it is now.”

    :-)

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    I think you are struggling with the obvious. Israelis Do the engineering design while Palestinians lay the bricks. It's called comparative specialization. You want Palestinian engineering?
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  • @Rurik
    Oh, I know about that Geo. I've seen it and worse. But if you go to Gaza, they'll take you to a café or some mall where there's the illusion of normalcy. A child will play and laugh even, and a couple will sip, well whatever it is they sip over there.

    But the real damage is what you can't see. The despair. The crushing injustice and iniquities that permeate their existence.

    They're not just oppressed by a normal occupier, like England in India, where the authorities were no doubt severe at times, but there was no malice that I know of.

    compare that to a people who're occupied by the likes of Sherman or Greasy. Did you see that video I posted of the giggly IDF coward dancing around and terrorizing the blindfolded young Palestinian woman? How hard is it to imagine Sherman in that uniform, rubbing up on that woman to the cheers of his coward buddies.

    It's what that girl takes home with her that I'm talking about. What's inside her when she goes home and sees that the Jews have bulldozed her family home and her mother and sister and doing all they can to stay strong, but then her little sister breaks down and starts crying in utter despair. They took her father and two brothers away for protesting the demolition, and they may never see them again.

    You can't see that kind of anguish in a picture. You can't understand what it's like to find out your fifteen year old child was murdered and his organs removed to augment the life of a Jew, like the ones living lavishly in your ancient home- subsidized by the American and German tax payer.

    Anyways, I don't want to get too sentimental here, I just wanted to point out that the real wrongs committed in Gaza and the occupied territories aren't always the busted desolation and smoking ruins in the streets, but rather its the desolation in the hearts of these people who've been so cruelly abandoned by the rest of the world to this horrible fate.

    A child will play and laugh even, …

    the blindfolded young Palestinian woman …

    It’s what that girl …

    … and her mother and sister and doing all they can to stay strong, but then her little sister …

    Awwww! Ain’t it sweet!

    But, uh, where are the menfolk? Or have they achieved immaculate conception, the ideal of all Western feminists?

    They took her father and two brothers away for protesting the demolition, and they may never see them again.

    Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.

    … your fifteen year old child was murdered and his organs removed …

    Anyways, I don’t want to get too sentimental here, …

    No, of course not, you are not the kind of guy who gets sentimental over cynical Pallywood propaganda stunts.

    …the desolation in the hearts of these people who’ve been so cruelly abandoned by the rest of the world to this horrible fate.

    Truly desolate. And after all that the Palestinians have done over the centuries for all the oppressed and abandoned on this earth.

    The story is almost as sad as that of “Little Nell” about whom Oscar Wilde famously said:

    “One must have a heart of stone to read the death of little Nell without laughing.”

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  • Rurik says: • Website

    The ONLY reason the Palestinian people still exist at all is because of the weakness and faithlessness of the Israeli secular population.

    ahh Greasy, but that’s where you’re wrong

    I’ve given this a little thought, and I’ve come to the summation that there was always a reason for keeping a certain number of Palestinians alive.

    They needed them, you see. You need them. The Palestinian people are a necessity to the Jewish, Zionist id. A requirement, if you will. Yes, they had to be subjugated, and rendered absolutely powerless, but they also had to be kept that way for perpetuity. It is an absolute necessity for the Jews to be able to humiliate another people. Without them, who would the Jews torment as a sign that their god favors them, eh Greasy? If there were only Jews in Israel, how would the Jews express their ‘superiority’ over others, as the Torah and Talmud demand? As sure as you’re sitting there at your computer, you know as well as I do that they’d eat their own. In no time flat the Sephardic Jews with darker skin and a lower IQ would be targeted as the children of Ishmael. Or the secular Jews with their worship of Globohomoism. Isn’t that right Greasy?

    But with the Palestinians there to murder and humiliate, the Jews as are happy as pigs in shit. All the angst they feel at being what and who they are, can be ameliorated by punishing the Pals, and lording it over them.

    Your founders knew what they were doing when they left a certain amount of Arabs alive. They knew the Jewish pathological need to kick others and impose themselves upon others, or what’s the point?

    So yea Greasy, if you’re hoping for the day that the last Palestinian is murdered, then you’ll be waiting a long time. The people who set up Israel understood the Jewish id far better than you think they did. The Pals are part of you. They’re a necessary part of the expression of your identity, going back to your psychotic god of hatred and vengeance and wrath. Your entire identity is based around enemies and genocide and slaughtering others and stealing their property. If you kill all the Arabs, your Passover Seders will feel empty and drab. Who would you torment and grind down and persecute?

    You’d be like a cruel teenage boy with no cat to set on fire. Like a vicious psychopathic orc with only a sex doll to rape and brutalize. It just wouldn’t be the same.

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    Plus, Who would build the chosen's houses in the land they stole?

    Who Is Building Israel's Homes?
    There are around 50,000 foreign workers in the trade, of whom 82% are Palestinians

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.652117

    ...So far, the venture has trained about 1,000 workers( Israelis ), of whom 700 went to work. (Training is four months and when the newly trained workers actually start to work and see that the profession is a hard one, many drop out.)
    ...
    Meni Daboosh, 24, of Kfar Sava, a deputy site manager at a Tidhar project in Be’er Yaakov, is one with doubts. He’d like more Israelis in construction, but as a manager feels they can be less reliable than Chinese, European or Palestinian workers. Many Israelis shy from the hard work, he says. “Also, Israeli workers play tricks with you. You give them a job, even a pretty simple one; come back 20 minutes later and discover that the guy’s been smoking a cigarette or playing on his smartphone the whole time. Why would a manager want workers who demand more money and have less output? That may change, but that’s how it is now.”


    :-)
    , @Eagle Eye

    You’d be like a cruel teenage boy with no cat to set on fire. Like a vicious psychopathic orc with only a sex doll to rape and brutalize.
     
    For the benefit of less us experienced readers, could you explain how the perpetrator of such acts feels?

    After all, empathy and feelings are apparently quite important to you.

    Is there a Pallywood movie on this theme that you can recommend?

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  • @Rurik
    Oh, I know about that Geo. I've seen it and worse. But if you go to Gaza, they'll take you to a café or some mall where there's the illusion of normalcy. A child will play and laugh even, and a couple will sip, well whatever it is they sip over there.

    But the real damage is what you can't see. The despair. The crushing injustice and iniquities that permeate their existence.

    They're not just oppressed by a normal occupier, like England in India, where the authorities were no doubt severe at times, but there was no malice that I know of.

    compare that to a people who're occupied by the likes of Sherman or Greasy. Did you see that video I posted of the giggly IDF coward dancing around and terrorizing the blindfolded young Palestinian woman? How hard is it to imagine Sherman in that uniform, rubbing up on that woman to the cheers of his coward buddies.

    It's what that girl takes home with her that I'm talking about. What's inside her when she goes home and sees that the Jews have bulldozed her family home and her mother and sister and doing all they can to stay strong, but then her little sister breaks down and starts crying in utter despair. They took her father and two brothers away for protesting the demolition, and they may never see them again.

    You can't see that kind of anguish in a picture. You can't understand what it's like to find out your fifteen year old child was murdered and his organs removed to augment the life of a Jew, like the ones living lavishly in your ancient home- subsidized by the American and German tax payer.

    Anyways, I don't want to get too sentimental here, I just wanted to point out that the real wrongs committed in Gaza and the occupied territories aren't always the busted desolation and smoking ruins in the streets, but rather its the desolation in the hearts of these people who've been so cruelly abandoned by the rest of the world to this horrible fate.

    It’s what that girl takes home with her that I’m talking about. What’s inside her when she goes home and sees that the Jews have bulldozed her family home and her mother and sister and doing all they can to stay strong, but then her little sister breaks down and starts crying in utter despair. They took her father and two brothers away for protesting the demolition, and they may never see them again.

    Should have thought of that before they started illegally squatting on the Land that G-d promised to us.

    Anyways, I don’t want to get too sentimental here, I just wanted to point out that the real wrongs committed in Gaza and the occupied territories aren’t always the busted desolation and smoking ruins in the streets, but rather its the desolation in the hearts of these people who’ve been so cruelly abandoned by the rest of the world to this horrible fate.

    Lol, yes. It’s true. Your fellow goyim don’t care about the Palestinian dogs. But even if they did, what would y’all do about it? We’ve got 150 nuclear warheads and who knows how many more biological and chemical ones. You couldn’t touch us even if you wanted to.

    But the fact that you think that contemporary Israelis are being excessively cruel to the Palestinians is so far beyond ridiculous it just beggars belief. The ONLY reason the Palestinian people still exist at all is because of the weakness and faithlessness of the Israeli secular population. A population that is rapidly disappearing.

    In 30 years, the Land of Israel will be ruled by the Torah True and then you won’t see any more “crimes” against the Palestinians because there simply will be no Palestinians at all. And there is nothing you can do about it.

    The Canaanites are all dead. The Palestinians will be joining them shortly. I pray only that you will live to see it.

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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @geokat62

    I don’t have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps
     
    Not on the surface? Surely, you jest?

    http://themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/gaza-wreckage.jpg

    Oh, I know about that Geo. I’ve seen it and worse. But if you go to Gaza, they’ll take you to a café or some mall where there’s the illusion of normalcy. A child will play and laugh even, and a couple will sip, well whatever it is they sip over there.

    But the real damage is what you can’t see. The despair. The crushing injustice and iniquities that permeate their existence.

    They’re not just oppressed by a normal occupier, like England in India, where the authorities were no doubt severe at times, but there was no malice that I know of.

    compare that to a people who’re occupied by the likes of Sherman or Greasy. Did you see that video I posted of the giggly IDF coward dancing around and terrorizing the blindfolded young Palestinian woman? How hard is it to imagine Sherman in that uniform, rubbing up on that woman to the cheers of his coward buddies.

    It’s what that girl takes home with her that I’m talking about. What’s inside her when she goes home and sees that the Jews have bulldozed her family home and her mother and sister and doing all they can to stay strong, but then her little sister breaks down and starts crying in utter despair. They took her father and two brothers away for protesting the demolition, and they may never see them again.

    You can’t see that kind of anguish in a picture. You can’t understand what it’s like to find out your fifteen year old child was murdered and his organs removed to augment the life of a Jew, like the ones living lavishly in your ancient home- subsidized by the American and German tax payer.

    Anyways, I don’t want to get too sentimental here, I just wanted to point out that the real wrongs committed in Gaza and the occupied territories aren’t always the busted desolation and smoking ruins in the streets, but rather its the desolation in the hearts of these people who’ve been so cruelly abandoned by the rest of the world to this horrible fate.

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    It’s what that girl takes home with her that I’m talking about. What’s inside her when she goes home and sees that the Jews have bulldozed her family home and her mother and sister and doing all they can to stay strong, but then her little sister breaks down and starts crying in utter despair. They took her father and two brothers away for protesting the demolition, and they may never see them again.
     
    Should have thought of that before they started illegally squatting on the Land that G-d promised to us.

    Anyways, I don’t want to get too sentimental here, I just wanted to point out that the real wrongs committed in Gaza and the occupied territories aren’t always the busted desolation and smoking ruins in the streets, but rather its the desolation in the hearts of these people who’ve been so cruelly abandoned by the rest of the world to this horrible fate.
     
    Lol, yes. It's true. Your fellow goyim don't care about the Palestinian dogs. But even if they did, what would y'all do about it? We've got 150 nuclear warheads and who knows how many more biological and chemical ones. You couldn't touch us even if you wanted to.

    But the fact that you think that contemporary Israelis are being excessively cruel to the Palestinians is so far beyond ridiculous it just beggars belief. The ONLY reason the Palestinian people still exist at all is because of the weakness and faithlessness of the Israeli secular population. A population that is rapidly disappearing.

    In 30 years, the Land of Israel will be ruled by the Torah True and then you won't see any more "crimes" against the Palestinians because there simply will be no Palestinians at all. And there is nothing you can do about it.

    The Canaanites are all dead. The Palestinians will be joining them shortly. I pray only that you will live to see it.
    , @Eagle Eye

    A child will play and laugh even, ...

    the blindfolded young Palestinian woman ...

    It’s what that girl ...

    ... and her mother and sister and doing all they can to stay strong, but then her little sister ...
     

    Awwww! Ain't it sweet!

    But, uh, where are the menfolk? Or have they achieved immaculate conception, the ideal of all Western feminists?

    They took her father and two brothers away for protesting the demolition, and they may never see them again.

     

    Ah, of course, evil Israelis blew up their house and took the poor little boys away even though they dindu nuffink.


    ... your fifteen year old child was murdered and his organs removed ...

    Anyways, I don’t want to get too sentimental here, ...

     

    No, of course not, you are not the kind of guy who gets sentimental over cynical Pallywood propaganda stunts.


    ...the desolation in the hearts of these people who’ve been so cruelly abandoned by the rest of the world to this horrible fate.
     

    Truly desolate. And after all that the Palestinians have done over the centuries for all the oppressed and abandoned on this earth.

    The story is almost as sad as that of "Little Nell" about whom Oscar Wilde famously said:

    “One must have a heart of stone to read the death of little Nell without laughing.”

     

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  • @Rurik

    Pals having a state of their own. But there are conditions, most important ones being security and Jerusalem.
     
    Jerusalem?

    Oh, the irony! Chocolate was not exempt from the restrictions
     
    geeze Sam. Just say it. Chocolate was banned. Along with toys and other trifles as a petty torment. The kinds of petty torments, like forcing people to stand in long lines at check points or drive on separate roads that are intended to humiliate these people. There was no military justification for banning chocolate. Petty torments, like a man holding food in front of starving children, taunting them.

    I state that as a simple matter of fact.
     
    or to impugn their character?

    So you might say, all in all, they have their chocolate and eat it too.
     
    I'll call that your 'let them eat cake' moment

    does that depict a Jewish man holding the bread?
     
    Don't know. I simply posted it as an example of a callous asshole, like the kind that would prevent the children of Gaza, who suffer so much, to even enjoy a meager moment of pleasure in their otherwise destitute lives.

    I don't have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps, but deep in their souls, knowing that they've been robbed of everything. Their land, their homes, their sovereignty and their dignity. And ignored by the vile Arab governments and the sanctimonious Zio-West. May they all rot in hell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9s7t_rM9fY

    I don’t have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps

    Not on the surface? Surely, you jest?

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    Oh, I know about that Geo. I've seen it and worse. But if you go to Gaza, they'll take you to a café or some mall where there's the illusion of normalcy. A child will play and laugh even, and a couple will sip, well whatever it is they sip over there.

    But the real damage is what you can't see. The despair. The crushing injustice and iniquities that permeate their existence.

    They're not just oppressed by a normal occupier, like England in India, where the authorities were no doubt severe at times, but there was no malice that I know of.

    compare that to a people who're occupied by the likes of Sherman or Greasy. Did you see that video I posted of the giggly IDF coward dancing around and terrorizing the blindfolded young Palestinian woman? How hard is it to imagine Sherman in that uniform, rubbing up on that woman to the cheers of his coward buddies.

    It's what that girl takes home with her that I'm talking about. What's inside her when she goes home and sees that the Jews have bulldozed her family home and her mother and sister and doing all they can to stay strong, but then her little sister breaks down and starts crying in utter despair. They took her father and two brothers away for protesting the demolition, and they may never see them again.

    You can't see that kind of anguish in a picture. You can't understand what it's like to find out your fifteen year old child was murdered and his organs removed to augment the life of a Jew, like the ones living lavishly in your ancient home- subsidized by the American and German tax payer.

    Anyways, I don't want to get too sentimental here, I just wanted to point out that the real wrongs committed in Gaza and the occupied territories aren't always the busted desolation and smoking ruins in the streets, but rather its the desolation in the hearts of these people who've been so cruelly abandoned by the rest of the world to this horrible fate.
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  • @Sam Shama

    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from “Ishmael”. Not just that the Land should be conquered, but that the inhabitants needed to be dispossessed with only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain. Obviously he didn’t call them Palestinians.
     
    The fact you drew a comparison in your earlier post between Palestinians and Canaanites of yore, I shall let pass, but your narrative is flawed as far as I remember. Maimonides had written to Jews in Yemen an impassioned account of the mistreatment received by the small Jewish minority at the hands of muslims. That was during the rule of Salahadin. He wrote of this injustice and encouraged Jews to not forget their misery and even voice their complaints to Salahadin.

    I'll research this further and return with references. You, I hope, will do the same.

    Forget it – I just looked up “Epistle to Yemen” so I figured it out.

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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @L.K
    You know Rurik,

    Sham is basically treating you like an idiot. I think you deserve it.

    He writes : "You must know not to believe everything you read, Rurik. Travel to Israel, visit the WB and Gaza and you will see for yourself the reality, not the carefully staged photo-journalism produced by Pallywood."

    Sh*t Rurik, Pallywood , eh???? The cheek this zionist rat has!

    Retired US Colonel P. Lang, decorated former special forces and Vietnam vet, did visit the West Bank several times. Some of what he observed:


    In Beit Suhur outside Bethlehem, I have seen IDF troops shoot at Palestinian Christian women hanging out laundry in their gardens. This was done with tank coaxial machine guns from within a bermed up dirt fort a couple of hundred yards away, and evidently just for the fun of it.

    In Bethlehem a lieutenant told me that he would have had his men shoot me in the street during a demonstration that I happened to get caught in, but that he had not because he thought I might not be a Palestinian and that if I were not the incident would have caused him some trouble. I have seen a lot of things like that....

    In my travels in the west Bank in March of 2008, it was noticeable that the behavior towards Palestinian civilians of IDF troops at roadblocks was reminiscent of that of any group of post-adolescents given guns and allowed to bully the helpless in order to look tough for each other.
     
    Nah, Colonel Lang is just another member of 'Pallywood'!
    The same goes for the many IDF soldiers who have been speaking out about the brutality of the zionist occupation:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/08/israel-soldiers-speak-out-brutality-palestine-occupation

    One could go on providing example after example by Westerners and even many Jews who have been to Palestine or live there, but in the end, what's the point, eh?
    It's all 'staged photo-journalism by pallywood'! After all, we all know how powerful and influent the 'pals' are , eh?

    carefully staged photo-journalism produced by Pallywood.”

    Sh*t Rurik, Pallywood , eh???? The cheek this zionist rat has!

    you’re right that Shama is twerking the narrative with chutzpah, and amusing himself by doing so no doubt, but as long as he wants to play the foil, then why not use him to bounce the truth off of and send it flinging into the blogosphere?

    who’s playing whom?

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  • @Sam Shama

    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from “Ishmael”. Not just that the Land should be conquered, but that the inhabitants needed to be dispossessed with only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain. Obviously he didn’t call them Palestinians.
     
    The fact you drew a comparison in your earlier post between Palestinians and Canaanites of yore, I shall let pass, but your narrative is flawed as far as I remember. Maimonides had written to Jews in Yemen an impassioned account of the mistreatment received by the small Jewish minority at the hands of muslims. That was during the rule of Salahadin. He wrote of this injustice and encouraged Jews to not forget their misery and even voice their complaints to Salahadin.

    I'll research this further and return with references. You, I hope, will do the same.

    Hey Sam,

    Wouldn’t that have been the Almohads? They were the extremists of their age and took over Spain, causing most Jews to flee, including Rambam. Rambam (aka OG Thugg according to Greasy) settled in Cairo and worked for Sultan Salahuddin (ra). Was he oppressed by him? Maybe I don’t understand.

    Peace.

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  • L.K says:
    @Rurik
    Hey Sam, the thing about bringing up chocolate for me, vis-a-vis the occupied territories, is how little things I read about often tweak me, for their pettiness and snarky cruelty.

    Like if you have two children, one Jewish and one Arab, and you're responsible for both those children's welfare, (as the government of Israel is legally bound to be for both the Jewish citizens and the Palestinians they occupy). Right?

    Ok, then what happens is when I hear the word chocolate, I can't help but think of how the petty, black-hearted scum in the Israeli government decided that one of the things they were going to specifically prevent from getting into Gaza was chocolate. of all things.

    And I'm sitting there thinking, here's this shining light unto the nations, and there are two children there, and one is Jewish and the other is Arab. And then the man who's responsible for the welfare of both these children, gives to the Jewish child two pieces of chocolate candy, and to the other nothing. And I think what a rat. What a petty, mean-spirited, asshole

    I'm reminded of that picture of the Arminian genocide, where the guy is taunting the starving children with a piece of bread.

    http://www.gazetawarszawska.com/images/armenian_genocide_16.jpg

    but those aren't his children, they're the children of a different religion, so he taunts them and mocks their suffering.

    charming people these Jewish Zionists, eh?

    You know Rurik,

    Sham is basically treating you like an idiot. I think you deserve it.

    He writes : “You must know not to believe everything you read, Rurik. Travel to Israel, visit the WB and Gaza and you will see for yourself the reality, not the carefully staged photo-journalism produced by Pallywood.”

    Sh*t Rurik, Pallywood , eh???? The cheek this zionist rat has!

    Retired US Colonel P. Lang, decorated former special forces and Vietnam vet, did visit the West Bank several times. Some of what he observed:

    In Beit Suhur outside Bethlehem, I have seen IDF troops shoot at Palestinian Christian women hanging out laundry in their gardens. This was done with tank coaxial machine guns from within a bermed up dirt fort a couple of hundred yards away, and evidently just for the fun of it.

    In Bethlehem a lieutenant told me that he would have had his men shoot me in the street during a demonstration that I happened to get caught in, but that he had not because he thought I might not be a Palestinian and that if I were not the incident would have caused him some trouble. I have seen a lot of things like that….

    In my travels in the west Bank in March of 2008, it was noticeable that the behavior towards Palestinian civilians of IDF troops at roadblocks was reminiscent of that of any group of post-adolescents given guns and allowed to bully the helpless in order to look tough for each other.

    Nah, Colonel Lang is just another member of ‘Pallywood’!
    The same goes for the many IDF soldiers who have been speaking out about the brutality of the zionist occupation:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/08/israel-soldiers-speak-out-brutality-palestine-occupation

    One could go on providing example after example by Westerners and even many Jews who have been to Palestine or live there, but in the end, what’s the point, eh?
    It’s all ‘staged photo-journalism by pallywood’! After all, we all know how powerful and influent the ‘pals’ are , eh?

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    carefully staged photo-journalism produced by Pallywood.”

    Sh*t Rurik, Pallywood , eh???? The cheek this zionist rat has!
     
    you're right that Shama is twerking the narrative with chutzpah, and amusing himself by doing so no doubt, but as long as he wants to play the foil, then why not use him to bounce the truth off of and send it flinging into the blogosphere?

    who's playing whom?
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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    Your illogical reply makes you sound obsessive.

    I say "A may be true" and you say "You are wrong: B is not true". I don't know how to handle that.

    I say “A may be true” and you say “You are wrong: B is not true”. I don’t know how to handle that.

    you said:

    My point was that a few isolated killings may well be just thst : nothing to do with [Israeli] government

    I responded that such a suggestion is bullshit. And that the government (and society) are not just complicit and guilty, but fully to blame, at least insofar as they support the Likudniks.

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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @Sam Shama

    ......how little things I read about often tweak me
     
    You must know not to believe everything you read, Rurik. Travel to Israel, visit the WB and Gaza and you will see for yourself the reality, not the carefully staged photo-journalism produced by Pallywood. Look, I am for the Pals having a state of their own. But there are conditions, most important ones being security and Jerusalem.

    Like if you have two children, one Jewish and one Arab, and you’re responsible for both those children’s welfare, (as the government of Israel is legally bound to be for both the Jewish citizens and the Palestinians they occupy). Right?
     
    Agreed.

    Ok, then what happens is when I hear the word chocolate, I can’t help but think of how the petty, black-hearted scum in the Israeli government decided that one of the things they were going to specifically prevent from getting into Gaza was chocolate. of all things.
     
    Oh, the irony! Chocolate was not exempt from the restrictions initially but was later made exempt. In fact Gaza is overflowing with chocolate.

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/12/gaza-siege-ban-chocolate-stores.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/snickers-chocolate-bars-burned-hamas-fire-gaza-recall/


    And I’m sitting there thinking, here’s this shining light unto the nations, and there are two children there, and one is Jewish and the other is Arab. And then the man who’s responsible for the welfare of both these children, gives to the Jewish child two pieces of chocolate candy, and to the other nothing. And I think what a rat. What a petty, mean-spirited, asshole

     

    I am assuming you speak of Jewish citizens and Arab citizens. Palestinians are the responsibility of the PA which receives generous help from international sources [you might imagine who that is] including Israel. A significant portion of this assistance goes to assist the bank accounts of the PA leadership. I state that as a simple matter of fact.

    Arab citizens of Israel are entitled to benefits very similar to the ones enjoyed by Blacks in this nation, essentially from cradle to grave. The 'Arab List' gets about a 15% representation in the Israeli parliament. There are Arab judges in Israel. Interestingly, there is no compulsory military service for Arabs, although many volunteer. So you might say, all in all, they have their chocolate and eat it too. I don't begrudge that at all, but only wish to highlight the truth.

    That picture, which you claimed from the archives of the Armenian genocide, does that depict a Jewish man holding the bread?

    Pals having a state of their own. But there are conditions, most important ones being security and Jerusalem.

    Jerusalem?

    Oh, the irony! Chocolate was not exempt from the restrictions

    geeze Sam. Just say it. Chocolate was banned. Along with toys and other trifles as a petty torment. The kinds of petty torments, like forcing people to stand in long lines at check points or drive on separate roads that are intended to humiliate these people. There was no military justification for banning chocolate. Petty torments, like a man holding food in front of starving children, taunting them.

    I state that as a simple matter of fact.

    or to impugn their character?

    So you might say, all in all, they have their chocolate and eat it too.

    I’ll call that your ‘let them eat cake’ moment

    does that depict a Jewish man holding the bread?

    Don’t know. I simply posted it as an example of a callous asshole, like the kind that would prevent the children of Gaza, who suffer so much, to even enjoy a meager moment of pleasure in their otherwise destitute lives.

    I don’t have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps, but deep in their souls, knowing that they’ve been robbed of everything. Their land, their homes, their sovereignty and their dignity. And ignored by the vile Arab governments and the sanctimonious Zio-West. May they all rot in hell.

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    I don’t have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps
     
    Not on the surface? Surely, you jest?

    http://themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/gaza-wreckage.jpg

    , @Eagle Eye

    I don’t have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps, but deep in their souls, knowing that they’ve been robbed of everything. Their land, their homes, their sovereignty and their dignity. And ignored by the vile Arab governments ...
     
    Ah yes, deep in their souls, all that's left, other than a yearning for chocolate and whisky, is

    the knowledge that they've been robbed of everything.
     
    (Excuse me while I go find a tissue.)

    Uh, maybe you're unaware of a few facts.

    The Gazans live in their home territory of Gaza, in their own homes, ruled over by the Muslim Hamas thugocracy, the women terrorized into hiding their faces and submitting to the resurgence of polygamy.

    BTW did you read the recent piece in the NYT about how Hamas terrorizes gays and Christians in Gaza? Or is the NYT keeping quiet about this, as they did for about a year about the holocaust, and for decades about the "kulak" genocide in the USSR that was hushed by by Walter Duranty?

    , @Eagle Eye

    I don’t have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable.
     
    You "don't have to go to Gaza to know" that he population of Gaza more than quintupled from 1970 to 2014, from 340,000 to 1,820,000, according to U.S. Census (!) figures.

    You "don't have to go to Gaza to know" that the place is five times more intolerable now than in 1970. The only known industries are rocket building and tunnel digging.

    On the plus side, they now get more U.S. and EU money and, can buy plenty of chocolate.

    As a little consolation, you "don't have to go to Gaza to know" about chocolate. You can just buy chocolate at any gas station.

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  • @Sam Shama

    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from “Ishmael”. Not just that the Land should be conquered, but that the inhabitants needed to be dispossessed with only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain. Obviously he didn’t call them Palestinians.
     
    The fact you drew a comparison in your earlier post between Palestinians and Canaanites of yore, I shall let pass, but your narrative is flawed as far as I remember. Maimonides had written to Jews in Yemen an impassioned account of the mistreatment received by the small Jewish minority at the hands of muslims. That was during the rule of Salahadin. He wrote of this injustice and encouraged Jews to not forget their misery and even voice their complaints to Salahadin.

    I'll research this further and return with references. You, I hope, will do the same.

    The fact you drew a comparison in your earlier post between Palestinians and Canaanites of yor, I shall let pass,

    What exactly is the difference between the Palestinians and the Canaanites except that the Palestinians have an even weaker claim to the Land than the Canaanites did?

    The Epistle to Yemen is a non-sequitur, what do the Jews in Yemen have to do with the Land of Israel?

    I’m not going to dig up a citation, but that Maimonides said that conquest of the Land of Israel and the expulsion of it’s inhabitants was a binding Commandment on all generations of Jews is very well known. If you disagree with Maimonides position, that’s fine, I disagree with a lot of stuff Maimonides wrote, but denying that he said it is ridiculous.

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  • @Greasy William

    Where and when precisely did the Rambam call for the elimination of Palestinians? Can you reference the source?
     
    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from "Ishmael". Not just that the Land should be conquered, but that the inhabitants needed to be dispossessed with only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain. Obviously he didn't call them Palestinians.

    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from “Ishmael”. Not just that the Land should be conquered, but that the inhabitants needed to be dispossessed with only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain. Obviously he didn’t call them Palestinians.

    The fact you drew a comparison in your earlier post between Palestinians and Canaanites of yore, I shall let pass, but your narrative is flawed as far as I remember. Maimonides had written to Jews in Yemen an impassioned account of the mistreatment received by the small Jewish minority at the hands of muslims. That was during the rule of Salahadin. He wrote of this injustice and encouraged Jews to not forget their misery and even voice their complaints to Salahadin.

    I’ll research this further and return with references. You, I hope, will do the same.

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    The fact you drew a comparison in your earlier post between Palestinians and Canaanites of yor, I shall let pass,
     
    What exactly is the difference between the Palestinians and the Canaanites except that the Palestinians have an even weaker claim to the Land than the Canaanites did?

    The Epistle to Yemen is a non-sequitur, what do the Jews in Yemen have to do with the Land of Israel?

    I'm not going to dig up a citation, but that Maimonides said that conquest of the Land of Israel and the expulsion of it's inhabitants was a binding Commandment on all generations of Jews is very well known. If you disagree with Maimonides position, that's fine, I disagree with a lot of stuff Maimonides wrote, but denying that he said it is ridiculous.
    , @Talha
    Hey Sam,

    Wouldn't that have been the Almohads? They were the extremists of their age and took over Spain, causing most Jews to flee, including Rambam. Rambam (aka OG Thugg according to Greasy) settled in Cairo and worked for Sultan Salahuddin (ra). Was he oppressed by him? Maybe I don't understand.

    Peace.

    , @Talha
    Forget it - I just looked up "Epistle to Yemen" so I figured it out.
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  • @Rurik

    My point was that a few isolated killings may well be just thst : nothing to do with [Israeli] government beforehand and also telling us little about the [Zionist] society they take place in.
     
    that may be your point wiz, but you'd nevertheless be wrong.

    the slaughter of Palestinians, for instance during Operation Cast Lead, were perpetrated by the Israeli government. Hardly what anyone would call "isolated killings".

    Menachem Begin and Ben-Gurion were flat out terrorists. Ehud Barak was an assassin.

    I'd say that tends to reflect somewhat on the kind of society that Israel is, and the nature of their voting public, no?

    these guys are not crazed settlers carrying out an illegal attack on some Palestinian grandmother, they're uniformed soldiers (cowards) in the IDF

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5T-hKpDSrg

    Your illogical reply makes you sound obsessive.

    I say “A may be true” and you say “You are wrong: B is not true”. I don’t know how to handle that.

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    I say “A may be true” and you say “You are wrong: B is not true”. I don’t know how to handle that.
     
    you said:


    My point was that a few isolated killings may well be just thst : nothing to do with [Israeli] government
     
    I responded that such a suggestion is bullshit. And that the government (and society) are not just complicit and guilty, but fully to blame, at least insofar as they support the Likudniks.
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  • @Rurik
    Hey Sam, the thing about bringing up chocolate for me, vis-a-vis the occupied territories, is how little things I read about often tweak me, for their pettiness and snarky cruelty.

    Like if you have two children, one Jewish and one Arab, and you're responsible for both those children's welfare, (as the government of Israel is legally bound to be for both the Jewish citizens and the Palestinians they occupy). Right?

    Ok, then what happens is when I hear the word chocolate, I can't help but think of how the petty, black-hearted scum in the Israeli government decided that one of the things they were going to specifically prevent from getting into Gaza was chocolate. of all things.

    And I'm sitting there thinking, here's this shining light unto the nations, and there are two children there, and one is Jewish and the other is Arab. And then the man who's responsible for the welfare of both these children, gives to the Jewish child two pieces of chocolate candy, and to the other nothing. And I think what a rat. What a petty, mean-spirited, asshole

    I'm reminded of that picture of the Arminian genocide, where the guy is taunting the starving children with a piece of bread.

    http://www.gazetawarszawska.com/images/armenian_genocide_16.jpg

    but those aren't his children, they're the children of a different religion, so he taunts them and mocks their suffering.

    charming people these Jewish Zionists, eh?

    ……how little things I read about often tweak me

    You must know not to believe everything you read, Rurik. Travel to Israel, visit the WB and Gaza and you will see for yourself the reality, not the carefully staged photo-journalism produced by Pallywood. Look, I am for the Pals having a state of their own. But there are conditions, most important ones being security and Jerusalem.

    Like if you have two children, one Jewish and one Arab, and you’re responsible for both those children’s welfare, (as the government of Israel is legally bound to be for both the Jewish citizens and the Palestinians they occupy). Right?

    Agreed.

    Ok, then what happens is when I hear the word chocolate, I can’t help but think of how the petty, black-hearted scum in the Israeli government decided that one of the things they were going to specifically prevent from getting into Gaza was chocolate. of all things.

    Oh, the irony! Chocolate was not exempt from the restrictions initially but was later made exempt. In fact Gaza is overflowing with chocolate.

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/12/gaza-siege-ban-chocolate-stores.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/snickers-chocolate-bars-burned-hamas-fire-gaza-recall/

    And I’m sitting there thinking, here’s this shining light unto the nations, and there are two children there, and one is Jewish and the other is Arab. And then the man who’s responsible for the welfare of both these children, gives to the Jewish child two pieces of chocolate candy, and to the other nothing. And I think what a rat. What a petty, mean-spirited, asshole

    I am assuming you speak of Jewish citizens and Arab citizens. Palestinians are the responsibility of the PA which receives generous help from international sources [you might imagine who that is] including Israel. A significant portion of this assistance goes to assist the bank accounts of the PA leadership. I state that as a simple matter of fact.

    Arab citizens of Israel are entitled to benefits very similar to the ones enjoyed by Blacks in this nation, essentially from cradle to grave. The ‘Arab List’ gets about a 15% representation in the Israeli parliament. There are Arab judges in Israel. Interestingly, there is no compulsory military service for Arabs, although many volunteer. So you might say, all in all, they have their chocolate and eat it too. I don’t begrudge that at all, but only wish to highlight the truth.

    That picture, which you claimed from the archives of the Armenian genocide, does that depict a Jewish man holding the bread?

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    Pals having a state of their own. But there are conditions, most important ones being security and Jerusalem.
     
    Jerusalem?

    Oh, the irony! Chocolate was not exempt from the restrictions
     
    geeze Sam. Just say it. Chocolate was banned. Along with toys and other trifles as a petty torment. The kinds of petty torments, like forcing people to stand in long lines at check points or drive on separate roads that are intended to humiliate these people. There was no military justification for banning chocolate. Petty torments, like a man holding food in front of starving children, taunting them.

    I state that as a simple matter of fact.
     
    or to impugn their character?

    So you might say, all in all, they have their chocolate and eat it too.
     
    I'll call that your 'let them eat cake' moment

    does that depict a Jewish man holding the bread?
     
    Don't know. I simply posted it as an example of a callous asshole, like the kind that would prevent the children of Gaza, who suffer so much, to even enjoy a meager moment of pleasure in their otherwise destitute lives.

    I don't have to go to Gaza to know that life there must be nearly intolerable. Not on the surface perhaps, but deep in their souls, knowing that they've been robbed of everything. Their land, their homes, their sovereignty and their dignity. And ignored by the vile Arab governments and the sanctimonious Zio-West. May they all rot in hell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9s7t_rM9fY

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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    [Shove your chocolate fixation up your ass, Shama; maybe it will emerge as diamonds you can use to try to buy your way out of hell.]

    It appears you've woken from your slumber with a nasty headache. I recommend a shot of brandy, 1 egg yolk, 1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce, black pepper and salt, all thrown into a blender and then consumed immediately.

    Best of luck

    Hey Sam, the thing about bringing up chocolate for me, vis-a-vis the occupied territories, is how little things I read about often tweak me, for their pettiness and snarky cruelty.

    Like if you have two children, one Jewish and one Arab, and you’re responsible for both those children’s welfare, (as the government of Israel is legally bound to be for both the Jewish citizens and the Palestinians they occupy). Right?

    Ok, then what happens is when I hear the word chocolate, I can’t help but think of how the petty, black-hearted scum in the Israeli government decided that one of the things they were going to specifically prevent from getting into Gaza was chocolate. of all things.

    And I’m sitting there thinking, here’s this shining light unto the nations, and there are two children there, and one is Jewish and the other is Arab. And then the man who’s responsible for the welfare of both these children, gives to the Jewish child two pieces of chocolate candy, and to the other nothing. And I think what a rat. What a petty, mean-spirited, asshole

    I’m reminded of that picture of the Arminian genocide, where the guy is taunting the starving children with a piece of bread.

    but those aren’t his children, they’re the children of a different religion, so he taunts them and mocks their suffering.

    charming people these Jewish Zionists, eh?

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    ......how little things I read about often tweak me
     
    You must know not to believe everything you read, Rurik. Travel to Israel, visit the WB and Gaza and you will see for yourself the reality, not the carefully staged photo-journalism produced by Pallywood. Look, I am for the Pals having a state of their own. But there are conditions, most important ones being security and Jerusalem.

    Like if you have two children, one Jewish and one Arab, and you’re responsible for both those children’s welfare, (as the government of Israel is legally bound to be for both the Jewish citizens and the Palestinians they occupy). Right?
     
    Agreed.

    Ok, then what happens is when I hear the word chocolate, I can’t help but think of how the petty, black-hearted scum in the Israeli government decided that one of the things they were going to specifically prevent from getting into Gaza was chocolate. of all things.
     
    Oh, the irony! Chocolate was not exempt from the restrictions initially but was later made exempt. In fact Gaza is overflowing with chocolate.

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/12/gaza-siege-ban-chocolate-stores.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/snickers-chocolate-bars-burned-hamas-fire-gaza-recall/


    And I’m sitting there thinking, here’s this shining light unto the nations, and there are two children there, and one is Jewish and the other is Arab. And then the man who’s responsible for the welfare of both these children, gives to the Jewish child two pieces of chocolate candy, and to the other nothing. And I think what a rat. What a petty, mean-spirited, asshole

     

    I am assuming you speak of Jewish citizens and Arab citizens. Palestinians are the responsibility of the PA which receives generous help from international sources [you might imagine who that is] including Israel. A significant portion of this assistance goes to assist the bank accounts of the PA leadership. I state that as a simple matter of fact.

    Arab citizens of Israel are entitled to benefits very similar to the ones enjoyed by Blacks in this nation, essentially from cradle to grave. The 'Arab List' gets about a 15% representation in the Israeli parliament. There are Arab judges in Israel. Interestingly, there is no compulsory military service for Arabs, although many volunteer. So you might say, all in all, they have their chocolate and eat it too. I don't begrudge that at all, but only wish to highlight the truth.

    That picture, which you claimed from the archives of the Armenian genocide, does that depict a Jewish man holding the bread?

    , @L.K
    You know Rurik,

    Sham is basically treating you like an idiot. I think you deserve it.

    He writes : "You must know not to believe everything you read, Rurik. Travel to Israel, visit the WB and Gaza and you will see for yourself the reality, not the carefully staged photo-journalism produced by Pallywood."

    Sh*t Rurik, Pallywood , eh???? The cheek this zionist rat has!

    Retired US Colonel P. Lang, decorated former special forces and Vietnam vet, did visit the West Bank several times. Some of what he observed:


    In Beit Suhur outside Bethlehem, I have seen IDF troops shoot at Palestinian Christian women hanging out laundry in their gardens. This was done with tank coaxial machine guns from within a bermed up dirt fort a couple of hundred yards away, and evidently just for the fun of it.

    In Bethlehem a lieutenant told me that he would have had his men shoot me in the street during a demonstration that I happened to get caught in, but that he had not because he thought I might not be a Palestinian and that if I were not the incident would have caused him some trouble. I have seen a lot of things like that....

    In my travels in the west Bank in March of 2008, it was noticeable that the behavior towards Palestinian civilians of IDF troops at roadblocks was reminiscent of that of any group of post-adolescents given guns and allowed to bully the helpless in order to look tough for each other.
     
    Nah, Colonel Lang is just another member of 'Pallywood'!
    The same goes for the many IDF soldiers who have been speaking out about the brutality of the zionist occupation:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/08/israel-soldiers-speak-out-brutality-palestine-occupation

    One could go on providing example after example by Westerners and even many Jews who have been to Palestine or live there, but in the end, what's the point, eh?
    It's all 'staged photo-journalism by pallywood'! After all, we all know how powerful and influent the 'pals' are , eh?
    , @Z-man
    Love this post! Too all like minded free thinkers, share this on the internet!
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  • @Heymrguda
    Yeah, it's always fun to review Netflix's newest offerings to see what new hocaust/nazi stuff has been added. I have this game I play with my wife where I predict which will focus on the nazis. Am almost always right -- anything that shows people in 1940s fashions is a dead giveaway. It's reached the point where it's kind of comical.

    It’s reached the point where it’s kind of comical.

    yes, except most people are very much effected by it all.

    Most people consider what’s on television as more ‘real’ than what’s not

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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    No, with respect, it is not I that is missing the point but you; and you sare doing it because you are begging the question.

    Your question begging shows up in the very next paragraph by way of your assuming that the issue concerns only government killing. My point was that a few isolated killings may well be just thst : nothing to do with government beforehand and also telling us little about the society they take place in.

    My point was that a few isolated killings may well be just thst : nothing to do with [Israeli] government beforehand and also telling us little about the [Zionist] society they take place in.

    that may be your point wiz, but you’d nevertheless be wrong.

    the slaughter of Palestinians, for instance during Operation Cast Lead, were perpetrated by the Israeli government. Hardly what anyone would call “isolated killings”.

    Menachem Begin and Ben-Gurion were flat out terrorists. Ehud Barak was an assassin.

    I’d say that tends to reflect somewhat on the kind of society that Israel is, and the nature of their voting public, no?

    these guys are not crazed settlers carrying out an illegal attack on some Palestinian grandmother, they’re uniformed soldiers (cowards) in the IDF

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    Your illogical reply makes you sound obsessive.

    I say "A may be true" and you say "You are wrong: B is not true". I don't know how to handle that.
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  • Rurik says: • Website
    @RobinG
    ".....when Sam goes on with that bent that killing weaker people and stealing their land is just human nature, I do wonder if he realizes he’s providing moral justification for every questionable act that the Nazis did, including the slaughter of Russians and Poles and persecution and killing of Jews. "

    Excellent post, Rurik. And note how Sam counters by saying Jews use a different math - just as they're entitled to an alternate morality. So says the Chosen. [The primitive.]

    But isn't that what all the race warriors want? Their own math and morality? Preserve the tribe, and to Hell with everyone else! Interesting that Atzmon says the only proper labels for Israel are racist and nationalist.

    Thanks Robin,

    But isn’t that what all the race warriors want? Their own math and morality? Preserve the tribe, and to Hell with everyone else! Interesting that Atzmon says the only proper labels for Israel are racist and nationalist.

    first off ‘racist’ is a loaded word. It can mean almost anything. I’m sure there are some who consider the Palestinians racists/nationalists for demanding a state of their own.

    ‘Why do they have to have their own (racial) nation? What’s wrong with them simply adapting to a second-class status in the Jew-run state of Israel? (and indeed, the same thing can be said about American whites. What’s with their alt-right nationalism? Why don’t they just accept their second-class status in the Jewish-run ZUSA? Sure, the Affirmative Action laws mean they’re legally less than human, but so what?)

    So that word has to be used carefully. For myself, I have always maintained that all peoples are entitled to self-determination. Palestinians, Jews, Kurds, blacks, browns and yes, even whites.

    a lot of people would call me a racist for saying such a thing.

    ‘Germans?! How can you say that Germans deserve their own nation?! How *dare* you say that? Are you a Nazi?!’

    and so forth.

    but the problems I see today are that certain people have been slated for the dustbin of history, and that’s why there is so much strife. The main people that have been slated for the dustbin of history, of course are the Palestinians. They are not only a tragically wronged people, who’ve suffered heart wrenching indignities, but they’re also humanities canary in the coal mine.

    As go the Palestinians, so too go the rest of us (all Gentiles) eventually, unless we can collectively marshal the wherewithal to waylay these netherworld Zionists.

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children? That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties? So they are monsters with perfect foresight. Are you really that lost? I don’t believe so.
     

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4196885,00.html
    צילום: רויטרס
    Should West starve Iran?

    Israeli officials: Starve Iranians to stop nukes

    ". . .hunger in Iran could prompt regime to 'consider whether nuclear adventure is worthwhile', Jerusalem official says"
    Attila Somfalvi|Published: 29.02.12 , 20:18

    Iran's citizens should be starved in order to curb Tehran's nuclear program, officials in Jerusalem said Wednesday ahead of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's upcoming trip to Washington.

    "North Korea is halting its nuclear program in order to receive aid in food, and this is what should be done with Iran as well," one unnamed official said. [h/t Nima Shirazi, http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2012/03/inhumanity-of-iran-threat-rhetoric.html ]
     

    Five important points emerge from this brief article from a Jewish - Israeli newspaper:

    1. Jews have no problem calling for the starvation of other people's children; its a repeated pattern -- they did it to Germans, they collaborated to do it to Russians/Ukrainians, they are doing it to Palestinians (see ** below). Is this psychopathology part of the Israeli DNA: the mythology has become internalized -- spare the son of Abraham, kill the unblemished -- that is, innocent-- ram caught in the thicket, in order to enable Jews to collect on the promises of their psychopathic god.

    2. Jews call upon non-Jews -- i.e. "the West" -- to carry out their murderous endeavors, also a Jewish pattern of behavior.

    3. What is completely and totally outrageous and infuriating is the extent to which "Christian" and Catholic actors line up to suck Jewish balls to carry out their sub-human programs of sanctions and starvation. Ed Royce, nominally Roman Catholic, tops this list. This morning Francis Rooney, former ambassador to Vatican now Rep from Florida, bruited "Judeo-Christian values" -- a contradiction in terms -- and also endorsed increasing sanctions on Iran -- a contradiction of not only (allegedly) Christian values but also of the United Nations Charter/international law. Rooney endorsed the "small sale" of weapons to KSA to assist the Saudis in their campaign of starving Houthis, who are (minimally) supported by Iran.

    4. Starving other nations to force submission to Jewish / Western demands does not work: North Korea did NOT halt its nuclear program.

    5. So enthralled to this psychopathic behavior are Jews and the non-Jews who have been seduced, Faust-like, to that dark side, that they have rendered themselves incapable of behaving within truly civilized norms. Kevin MacDonald explored this phenomenon here:
    The Psychology of Prohibiting Outside Thinkers
    http://www.unz.com/article/justin-murphys-the-psychology-of-prohibiting-outside-thinkers/

    ---
    **


    "In 2006, after Palestinians democratically elected Hamas to the shock and chagrin of both Israel and the United States . . . a devastating economic siege was imposed on the 1.5 million residents of Gaza by Israel as punishment for the crime of Palestinian self-determination. As Dov Weisglass, adviser to then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, said with a chuckle, "It's like an appointment with a dietitian. The Palestinians in Gaza will get a lot thinner, but won't die."

    What's so obviously funny about Weisglass' statement is that, due to the brutal blockade that has deliberately strangled Gaza for six years, at least 61% of Palestinians in the territory are "food insecure," of which "65% are children under 18 years;" the level of anemia in infants is as high as 65.5%, about 70% of Palestinians in Gaza live on less than $1 a day, over 80% rely on food aid, and 60% have no daily access to water, 95% of which is undrinkable anyway." Shirazi, op cit.
     

    Shove your chocolate fixation up your ass, Shama; maybe it will emerge as diamonds you can use to try to buy your way out of hell.

    [Shove your chocolate fixation up your ass, Shama; maybe it will emerge as diamonds you can use to try to buy your way out of hell.]

    It appears you’ve woken from your slumber with a nasty headache. I recommend a shot of brandy, 1 egg yolk, 1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce, black pepper and salt, all thrown into a blender and then consumed immediately.

    Best of luck

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    Hey Sam, the thing about bringing up chocolate for me, vis-a-vis the occupied territories, is how little things I read about often tweak me, for their pettiness and snarky cruelty.

    Like if you have two children, one Jewish and one Arab, and you're responsible for both those children's welfare, (as the government of Israel is legally bound to be for both the Jewish citizens and the Palestinians they occupy). Right?

    Ok, then what happens is when I hear the word chocolate, I can't help but think of how the petty, black-hearted scum in the Israeli government decided that one of the things they were going to specifically prevent from getting into Gaza was chocolate. of all things.

    And I'm sitting there thinking, here's this shining light unto the nations, and there are two children there, and one is Jewish and the other is Arab. And then the man who's responsible for the welfare of both these children, gives to the Jewish child two pieces of chocolate candy, and to the other nothing. And I think what a rat. What a petty, mean-spirited, asshole

    I'm reminded of that picture of the Arminian genocide, where the guy is taunting the starving children with a piece of bread.

    http://www.gazetawarszawska.com/images/armenian_genocide_16.jpg

    but those aren't his children, they're the children of a different religion, so he taunts them and mocks their suffering.

    charming people these Jewish Zionists, eh?
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  • @L.K
    SHAM: 'Barghouti is a criminal, inextricably associated with more than a few bombings and other methods of murder. He acted as the money man, raising funds for the bombers and other terrorists.'

    BS. There is NO evidence to support your zionist lies that Barghouti is a terrorist.
    What's the evidence? Should we believe any of the excrement coming out of the mouth of such a discredited and pathetic sad little liar? Of course not.
    Some Israelis are able to tell the truth;
    Jonathan Ofir writes about the accusation that Barghouti is a terrorist:

    But let’s put the hysteria aside – what do we actually know about Barghouti’s capture, trial and conviction?

    On August 4th 2001, Barghouti went underground, following an Israeli missile attack against two vehicles leaving Fatah headquarters. He was narrowly missed. ...
    A warrant for Barghouti’s arrest was issued in September 2001, and after intense chase, he was caught by the Israeli military in Ramallah on April 15, 2002. ...
    But how was this ‘terrorist record’ to be construed?

    Israel stacked up 37 charges related to the deaths of dozens of civilians during the 2nd Intifada. Out of these, 33 were rejected by the court, as they were conducted by Al Aqsa Martyrs and showed no direct connection to Barghouti. The remaining cases included three attacks, which killed four Israelis and a Greek monk.

    “Think about it,” said Marwan Dalal, a lawyer with the Adalah Legal Centre for Minority Rights inside Israel. “The attorney-general approves indicting him with 37 charges related to attacks that led to the deaths of dozens of people. The prosecution then claims it has proof in documents confiscated by the army from the Palestinian Authority that Barghouti was personally responsible for those killings. Barghouti remains silent. And the verdict: the court throws out 33 of the charges for lack of evidence. It leaves a lot of questions about the judgement of the attorney-general and the credibility of the so-called ‘proof’ found by the army.”

    Indeed, the whole trial contained a massive amount of worrying signs indicating a political show-trial, including numerous violations of international law, which should cast serious doubt as to the credibility of it all. ...

    Ninety-six witnesses were called in by the prosecution. Two-thirds of them (63) were investigators or individuals associated with the investigation into Barghouti but unable to give a personal testimony regarding his involvement.

    Another 12 of the witnesses were victims or witnesses of bomb attacks, with no information regarding the personal involvement of the accused. Thus only 21 of the prosecution witnesses were actually in a position to testify directly regarding Barghouti’s role in these attacks. But none of these 21 individuals in fact accused him. About 12 of them explicitly told the court that he was not involved. Most of them quite simply refused to answer the questions of the court, generally on the ground that it had no jurisdiction to judge Barghouti.

    Thus the court had to fall back on statements collected by the investigators, although several witnesses told the court that these statements had been obtained under duress.
     
    Full article @ http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/making-barghouti-terrorist/#sthash.BNL6K0eF.dpuf

    Barghouti is a wily murderer, convicted fairly in a civilian court. He was Yasser Arafat’s handy man, the chief of Tanzim and the founder terrorist organisation Al Aqsa Martyrs Bridage which carried out suicide bomb attacks on buses, Malls and other places where civilians gathered.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/what-the-ny-times-didnt-say-about-barghouti/

    The thing which stands out most – and is most infuriating – about the opinion piece published by Marwan Barghouti in the New York Times is the single sentence below the article identifying the author. “Marwan Barghouti is a Palestinian leader and parliamentarian,” it says dryly. That isn’t an error, that is an intentional deception.

    Anyone who reads the column without prior knowledge of the facts will come to the conclusion that Barghouti is a freedom fighter imprisoned for his views. Nothing is further from the truth. The missing part of the column is that Marwan Barghouti is a murderer. He was convicted in a civilian (not military) court on five separate counts of murder of innocent civilians. He was involved in dozens of attempted terror attacks. He caused people to lose their families and led to people being maimed. He destroyed lives.

    Barghouti doesn’t only believe in violence, he also believes that its permissible to lie. He believes in the approach, which typifies terror organizations, that the West is weak and naïve and so our media and good intentions should be cynically abused to attack us from within.

    The attempt by the New York Times “to be balanced” amuses Barghouti. He understands that this sacred attempt at balance creates equal standing between murderer and murdered, terrorist and victim, lie and truth.

    So Barghouti tells horror stories about torture he underwent during Israeli investigations. There is no factual basis for these stories. The torture he describes is prohibited under Israeli law and even Israel’s greatest opponents must acknowledge that we abide by our laws.

    The reality is that a convicted terrorist is inventing stories about those who imprison him, as prisoners do all over the world, including in the United States.

    Instead of saying to him – as a responsible newspaper should – that if he doesn’t have a shred of evidence to support his stories then they can’t be published, the New York Times published them in its opinion pages and didn’t even bother to explain to its readers that the author is a convicted murderer of the worst kind.

    The peak of Barghouti’s violent ‘career’ came during the Second Intifada. It’s worth remembering that it broke out immediately after Israel’s prime minister at the time, Ehud Barak, made the Palestinians an offer that the whole world, including president Clinton, thought was impossible to refuse: a withdrawal to 1967 lines, a division of Jerusalem, a humanitarian solution to the refugee issue. Yasser Arafat said “no” and sent Barghouti and his people to murder Israelis in suicide attacks on buses and in shopping malls.

    That’s why Barghouti is in prison. Not for his views, not for his desire for a Palestinian state, not for his right to freedom of expression. He could have – along with the prisoners who are with him – been a free citizen of an independent Palestinian state long ago. He chose the path of terror, murder and violence.

    But the New York Times neglected to tell its readers that.

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  • @L.K
    It's amazing how many lies you can produce in just one miserable post... but then again, you have been caught lying numerous times by several people. Pinocchio would blush near you.

    Sham: "But the Lobby, if they did anything remotely relevant to your charge, mistakenly like many others, fearing Iraq’s possession of WMDs, backed sanctions against Saddam."

    There were NO mistakes, imbecile, the WMD thing was merely a prop to justify the sanctions which, in turn, aimed at regime-change, by punishing the civilian population, and deaths were expected.

    After years of draconian sanctions( a form of terrorism ), your heroes used their well documented influence to get ZUSA to invade Iraq, causing all of the mess we see today.
    The forced war on Syria is also, at heart, a Zionist affair, as former CIA Ray McGovern stated, one cannot make sense of US policy re Syria without Israel.
    It is all part of the “We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..”

    Apoplectic assertions, and even then, merely those coming from the mouth of a reptile do not a credible case make.

    Run along.

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  • L.K says:
    @Sam Shama
    Barghouti is a criminal, inextricably associated with more than a few bombings and other methods of murder. He acted as the money man, raising funds for the bombers and other terrorists.

    There can be no subjective interpretation of the video attached to GabrielM's post above. Marwan is no Gandhi; being instead, a deceitful murderer [I know the family of one of the dead in a Tel Aviv market bombing in 2002, financed and ordered by Barghouti] who finds misguided sponsorship from the naive in the West, people like you and Phil Giraldi.

    There are things Israel needs to address and redress; releasing Barghouti is not one of them.

    SHAM: ‘Barghouti is a criminal, inextricably associated with more than a few bombings and other methods of murder. He acted as the money man, raising funds for the bombers and other terrorists.’

    BS. There is NO evidence to support your zionist lies that Barghouti is a terrorist.
    What’s the evidence? Should we believe any of the excrement coming out of the mouth of such a discredited and pathetic sad little liar? Of course not.
    Some Israelis are able to tell the truth;
    Jonathan Ofir writes about the accusation that Barghouti is a terrorist:

    But let’s put the hysteria aside – what do we actually know about Barghouti’s capture, trial and conviction?

    On August 4th 2001, Barghouti went underground, following an Israeli missile attack against two vehicles leaving Fatah headquarters. He was narrowly missed. …
    A warrant for Barghouti’s arrest was issued in September 2001, and after intense chase, he was caught by the Israeli military in Ramallah on April 15, 2002. …
    But how was this ‘terrorist record’ to be construed?

    Israel stacked up 37 charges related to the deaths of dozens of civilians during the 2nd Intifada. Out of these, 33 were rejected by the court, as they were conducted by Al Aqsa Martyrs and showed no direct connection to Barghouti. The remaining cases included three attacks, which killed four Israelis and a Greek monk.

    “Think about it,” said Marwan Dalal, a lawyer with the Adalah Legal Centre for Minority Rights inside Israel. “The attorney-general approves indicting him with 37 charges related to attacks that led to the deaths of dozens of people. The prosecution then claims it has proof in documents confiscated by the army from the Palestinian Authority that Barghouti was personally responsible for those killings. Barghouti remains silent. And the verdict: the court throws out 33 of the charges for lack of evidence. It leaves a lot of questions about the judgement of the attorney-general and the credibility of the so-called ‘proof’ found by the army.”

    Indeed, the whole trial contained a massive amount of worrying signs indicating a political show-trial, including numerous violations of international law, which should cast serious doubt as to the credibility of it all. …

    Ninety-six witnesses were called in by the prosecution. Two-thirds of them (63) were investigators or individuals associated with the investigation into Barghouti but unable to give a personal testimony regarding his involvement.

    Another 12 of the witnesses were victims or witnesses of bomb attacks, with no information regarding the personal involvement of the accused. Thus only 21 of the prosecution witnesses were actually in a position to testify directly regarding Barghouti’s role in these attacks. But none of these 21 individuals in fact accused him. About 12 of them explicitly told the court that he was not involved. Most of them quite simply refused to answer the questions of the court, generally on the ground that it had no jurisdiction to judge Barghouti.

    Thus the court had to fall back on statements collected by the investigators, although several witnesses told the court that these statements had been obtained under duress.

    Full article @ http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/making-barghouti-terrorist/#sthash.BNL6K0eF.dpuf

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    Barghouti is a wily murderer, convicted fairly in a civilian court. He was Yasser Arafat's handy man, the chief of Tanzim and the founder terrorist organisation Al Aqsa Martyrs Bridage which carried out suicide bomb attacks on buses, Malls and other places where civilians gathered.


    http://www.timesofisrael.com/what-the-ny-times-didnt-say-about-barghouti/

    The thing which stands out most – and is most infuriating – about the opinion piece published by Marwan Barghouti in the New York Times is the single sentence below the article identifying the author. “Marwan Barghouti is a Palestinian leader and parliamentarian,” it says dryly. That isn’t an error, that is an intentional deception.

    Anyone who reads the column without prior knowledge of the facts will come to the conclusion that Barghouti is a freedom fighter imprisoned for his views. Nothing is further from the truth. The missing part of the column is that Marwan Barghouti is a murderer. He was convicted in a civilian (not military) court on five separate counts of murder of innocent civilians. He was involved in dozens of attempted terror attacks. He caused people to lose their families and led to people being maimed. He destroyed lives.


    Barghouti doesn’t only believe in violence, he also believes that its permissible to lie. He believes in the approach, which typifies terror organizations, that the West is weak and naïve and so our media and good intentions should be cynically abused to attack us from within.

    The attempt by the New York Times “to be balanced” amuses Barghouti. He understands that this sacred attempt at balance creates equal standing between murderer and murdered, terrorist and victim, lie and truth.

    So Barghouti tells horror stories about torture he underwent during Israeli investigations. There is no factual basis for these stories. The torture he describes is prohibited under Israeli law and even Israel’s greatest opponents must acknowledge that we abide by our laws.

    The reality is that a convicted terrorist is inventing stories about those who imprison him, as prisoners do all over the world, including in the United States.

    Instead of saying to him – as a responsible newspaper should – that if he doesn’t have a shred of evidence to support his stories then they can’t be published, the New York Times published them in its opinion pages and didn’t even bother to explain to its readers that the author is a convicted murderer of the worst kind.

    The peak of Barghouti’s violent ‘career’ came during the Second Intifada. It’s worth remembering that it broke out immediately after Israel’s prime minister at the time, Ehud Barak, made the Palestinians an offer that the whole world, including president Clinton, thought was impossible to refuse: a withdrawal to 1967 lines, a division of Jerusalem, a humanitarian solution to the refugee issue. Yasser Arafat said “no” and sent Barghouti and his people to murder Israelis in suicide attacks on buses and in shopping malls.

    That’s why Barghouti is in prison. Not for his views, not for his desire for a Palestinian state, not for his right to freedom of expression. He could have – along with the prisoners who are with him – been a free citizen of an independent Palestinian state long ago. He chose the path of terror, murder and violence.

    But the New York Times neglected to tell its readers that.

     

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  • L.K says:
    @Sam Shama
    Yes, a great tragedy and I deplore it. Allbright is a disgrace. But the Lobby, if they did anything remotely relevant to your charge, mistakenly like many others, fearing Iraq's possession of WMDs, backed sanctions against Saddam.

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children? That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties? So they are monsters with perfect foresight. Are you really that lost? I don't believe so.

    Tell me, did Phillip Weis, this bloke you are so fond of quoting know, back when Iraq II was on the cards, that a civil war would result and lead to mass casualties? If he did, had he then rung the alarm bells? If memory serves, this entire nation and its congress were beckoning the dogs of war.

    To compare Barghouti's deliberate, calculated, heinous plots to slaughter Israeli civilians to the lobbying efforts of AIPAC is to engage in a leap of equivalence the likes of which has not been witnessed since the time Rodrigo Borgia equated garotting his competition of the cloth to serving the Almighty!

    It’s amazing how many lies you can produce in just one miserable post… but then again, you have been caught lying numerous times by several people. Pinocchio would blush near you.

    Sham: “But the Lobby, if they did anything remotely relevant to your charge, mistakenly like many others, fearing Iraq’s possession of WMDs, backed sanctions against Saddam.”

    There were NO mistakes, imbecile, the WMD thing was merely a prop to justify the sanctions which, in turn, aimed at regime-change, by punishing the civilian population, and deaths were expected.

    After years of draconian sanctions( a form of terrorism ), your heroes used their well documented influence to get ZUSA to invade Iraq, causing all of the mess we see today.
    The forced war on Syria is also, at heart, a Zionist affair, as former CIA Ray McGovern stated, one cannot make sense of US policy re Syria without Israel.
    It is all part of the “We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..”

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    Apoplectic assertions, and even then, merely those coming from the mouth of a reptile do not a credible case make.

    Run along.
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  • When I hear those supporters of Israel declare that “God gave them the land”, I respond with “God is not a real-estate agent”. Shuts ‘em up every time…

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  • @Greasy William

    Where and when precisely did the Rambam call for the elimination of Palestinians? Can you reference the source?
     
    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from "Ishmael". Not just that the Land should be conquered, but that the inhabitants needed to be dispossessed with only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain. Obviously he didn't call them Palestinians.

    Hey Greasy,

    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from “Ishmael”.

    Dang – that’s some serious OG Thugg talk – especially given Bani Ishmael and her confederates outnumber Bani Ishaac like 80 to 1.

    I’m guessing he didn’t say this within earshot of his employer – Sultan Salahuddin (ra). Maybe I’m wrong, maybe he was just OG Thugg even as chief physician.

    only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain

    Solution to the One State Solution!!!

    I gotta admit Rambam does sound kind of thuggish – though nothing beats Sargon the Akkadian – that name is dope!!! Sumerian honeys lining up for a piece of that!

    Peace.

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  • @Sherman
    Don't tease Art about his PORK and beans.

    This is his favorite meal.

    With Trump's proposed budget cuts he will no longer get free government issued cans of PORK and beans.

    He will have to rummage through trash cans for food.

    [He will have to rummage through trash cans for food.]

    We should be confident nevertheless, that Jewish neighbourhood trash cans are very likely to remain safe from his depredations.

    I can’t speak for others, particularly Cubans, who seem to favour pork over all else. A call for vigilance, I think.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Yes, a great tragedy and I deplore it. Allbright is a disgrace. But the Lobby, if they did anything remotely relevant to your charge, mistakenly like many others, fearing Iraq's possession of WMDs, backed sanctions against Saddam.

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children? That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties? So they are monsters with perfect foresight. Are you really that lost? I don't believe so.

    Tell me, did Phillip Weis, this bloke you are so fond of quoting know, back when Iraq II was on the cards, that a civil war would result and lead to mass casualties? If he did, had he then rung the alarm bells? If memory serves, this entire nation and its congress were beckoning the dogs of war.

    To compare Barghouti's deliberate, calculated, heinous plots to slaughter Israeli civilians to the lobbying efforts of AIPAC is to engage in a leap of equivalence the likes of which has not been witnessed since the time Rodrigo Borgia equated garotting his competition of the cloth to serving the Almighty!

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children? That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties? So they are monsters with perfect foresight. Are you really that lost? I don’t believe so.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4196885,00.html
    צילום: רויטרס
    Should West starve Iran?

    Israeli officials: Starve Iranians to stop nukes

    “. . .hunger in Iran could prompt regime to ‘consider whether nuclear adventure is worthwhile’, Jerusalem official says”
    Attila Somfalvi|Published: 29.02.12 , 20:18

    Iran’s citizens should be starved in order to curb Tehran’s nuclear program, officials in Jerusalem said Wednesday ahead of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s upcoming trip to Washington.

    “North Korea is halting its nuclear program in order to receive aid in food, and this is what should be done with Iran as well,” one unnamed official said. [h/t Nima Shirazi, http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2012/03/inhumanity-of-iran-threat-rhetoric.html ]

    Five important points emerge from this brief article from a Jewish – Israeli newspaper:

    1. Jews have no problem calling for the starvation of other people’s children; its a repeated pattern — they did it to Germans, they collaborated to do it to Russians/Ukrainians, they are doing it to Palestinians (see ** below). Is this psychopathology part of the Israeli DNA: the mythology has become internalized — spare the son of Abraham, kill the unblemished — that is, innocent– ram caught in the thicket, in order to enable Jews to collect on the promises of their psychopathic god.

    2. Jews call upon non-Jews — i.e. “the West” — to carry out their murderous endeavors, also a Jewish pattern of behavior.

    3. What is completely and totally outrageous and infuriating is the extent to which “Christian” and Catholic actors line up to suck Jewish balls to carry out their sub-human programs of sanctions and starvation. Ed Royce, nominally Roman Catholic, tops this list. This morning Francis Rooney, former ambassador to Vatican now Rep from Florida, bruited “Judeo-Christian values” — a contradiction in terms — and also endorsed increasing sanctions on Iran — a contradiction of not only (allegedly) Christian values but also of the United Nations Charter/international law. Rooney endorsed the “small sale” of weapons to KSA to assist the Saudis in their campaign of starving Houthis, who are (minimally) supported by Iran.

    4. Starving other nations to force submission to Jewish / Western demands does not work: North Korea did NOT halt its nuclear program.

    5. So enthralled to this psychopathic behavior are Jews and the non-Jews who have been seduced, Faust-like, to that dark side, that they have rendered themselves incapable of behaving within truly civilized norms. Kevin MacDonald explored this phenomenon here:
    The Psychology of Prohibiting Outside Thinkers

    http://www.unz.com/article/justin-murphys-the-psychology-of-prohibiting-outside-thinkers/


    **

    “In 2006, after Palestinians democratically elected Hamas to the shock and chagrin of both Israel and the United States . . . a devastating economic siege was imposed on the 1.5 million residents of Gaza by Israel as punishment for the crime of Palestinian self-determination. As Dov Weisglass, adviser to then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, said with a chuckle, “It’s like an appointment with a dietitian. The Palestinians in Gaza will get a lot thinner, but won’t die.”

    What’s so obviously funny about Weisglass’ statement is that, due to the brutal blockade that has deliberately strangled Gaza for six years, at least 61% of Palestinians in the territory are “food insecure,” of which “65% are children under 18 years;” the level of anemia in infants is as high as 65.5%, about 70% of Palestinians in Gaza live on less than $1 a day, over 80% rely on food aid, and 60% have no daily access to water, 95% of which is undrinkable anyway.” Shirazi, op cit.

    Shove your chocolate fixation up your ass, Shama; maybe it will emerge as diamonds you can use to try to buy your way out of hell.

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    [Shove your chocolate fixation up your ass, Shama; maybe it will emerge as diamonds you can use to try to buy your way out of hell.]

    It appears you've woken from your slumber with a nasty headache. I recommend a shot of brandy, 1 egg yolk, 1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce, black pepper and salt, all thrown into a blender and then consumed immediately.

    Best of luck
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  • @Sam Shama
    Please don't write nonsense in response to my posts. You consider your reading of the Torah the last word by which all Jews should live.

    No; both the G'd idea and the various interpretations of the Torah, while they change at the subconscious level, actually need to change at the conscious level. You sabotage yourself when clinging to some minority interpretation you've created for yourself, wholly dispensing with all the reliable scientific knowledge we've gained. I won't have any truck with that.

    Where and when precisely did the Rambam call for the elimination of Palestinians? Can you reference the source?

    Where and when precisely did the Rambam call for the elimination of Palestinians? Can you reference the source?

    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from “Ishmael”. Not just that the Land should be conquered, but that the inhabitants needed to be dispossessed with only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain. Obviously he didn’t call them Palestinians.

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    Hey Greasy,

    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from “Ishmael”.
     
    Dang - that's some serious OG Thugg talk - especially given Bani Ishmael and her confederates outnumber Bani Ishaac like 80 to 1.

    I'm guessing he didn't say this within earshot of his employer - Sultan Salahuddin (ra). Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he was just OG Thugg even as chief physician.


    only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain
     
    Solution to the One State Solution!!!

    I gotta admit Rambam does sound kind of thuggish - though nothing beats Sargon the Akkadian - that name is dope!!! Sumerian honeys lining up for a piece of that!

    Peace.

    , @Sam Shama

    He said that the Land of Israel needed to be forcibly taken from “Ishmael”. Not just that the Land should be conquered, but that the inhabitants needed to be dispossessed with only those who accepted Jewish sovereignty being allowed to remain. Obviously he didn’t call them Palestinians.
     
    The fact you drew a comparison in your earlier post between Palestinians and Canaanites of yore, I shall let pass, but your narrative is flawed as far as I remember. Maimonides had written to Jews in Yemen an impassioned account of the mistreatment received by the small Jewish minority at the hands of muslims. That was during the rule of Salahadin. He wrote of this injustice and encouraged Jews to not forget their misery and even voice their complaints to Salahadin.

    I'll research this further and return with references. You, I hope, will do the same.

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  • @Cyrano
    I have a perfect cure for all of you "pro-Arab" morons. You should all be loaded on a plane (one might not be enough) and moved to an Arab neighborhood in Paris. One of the so called no-go zones. There you can enjoy your beautiful friendship with the Arabs. Tell them some of your heartbreaking stories of how the Jews are evil and how much you love them - the Arabs. I am sure they will get sentimental over such emotional outburst of affection.

    You are just a bunch of morons that don't live in a real world. You imagine yourselves as some kind of intellectuals that can't stand injustice or something. Whatever man. And while you are enjoying your friendship with your Arab friends in a Paris suburb, if one of them asks you to carry his innocently looking backpack - say to a rock concert in Manchester or some other venue of similar kind - if I was you, I would refuse. But then again, stupid as you are, chances are you'll probably accept an offer like that.

    I am anti Israel you ass hole not pro Arab. Ideally we would control our borders and kick out all the trash but it’s too late for that.
    But the harm of supporting the most ‘artificial of nation states’ at the expense of the native Palestinian population goes beyond them but causes us to lose our Christian moral compass and mimic the Jew/Semitic ‘eye for an eye’ mentality and gets us attacked by the low life’s that have entered our midst, ironically supported by the big international Jew!
    Open your eyes boy!

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  • @Rurik

    Yes but numbers do matter because a few killings could just be thè evil done by a couple of fanatical nutters while a few every week suggests the government and police are incompetent and don’t care.
     
    you're missing the point wiz

    the point is when the government kills people because they happen to belong to the wrong race (ethnicity, religion, tribe, etc..)

    we all know the Nazis persecuted and executed some Jews simply for being Jews

    just as today, there are Jews in Israel that are murdering and persecuting Arabs simply for being Arabs.

    as a matter of principle, this is either wrong, or it's OK

    and if it's OK for Jews in Israel to murder Palestinians simply for being Palestinians (whether it's two or twenty thousand), then by what moral, ethical logic can we condemn the Nazis for doing the exact same thing- that we Americans are forced to fund and facilitate in the holy land today?

    if I condemn Nazism, (in so far as it was a murderous, racial supremacist agenda of land theft and conquest)*, then how can I possibly be quiescent about the exact same thing being done on my dime and with my country's moral sanction in the holy land?

    the answer is that in principle, Zionism is the exact same thing as Nazism, (at least insofar as Nazism is considered a murderous, genocidal, hate-crazed ideology of racial supremacy and land theft)

    *the degree to which this describes actual Nazism is of course a matter of some debate.

    No, with respect, it is not I that is missing the point but you; and you sare doing it because you are begging the question.

    Your question begging shows up in the very next paragraph by way of your assuming that the issue concerns only government killing. My point was that a few isolated killings may well be just thst : nothing to do with government beforehand and also telling us little about the society they take place in.

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    My point was that a few isolated killings may well be just thst : nothing to do with [Israeli] government beforehand and also telling us little about the [Zionist] society they take place in.
     
    that may be your point wiz, but you'd nevertheless be wrong.

    the slaughter of Palestinians, for instance during Operation Cast Lead, were perpetrated by the Israeli government. Hardly what anyone would call "isolated killings".

    Menachem Begin and Ben-Gurion were flat out terrorists. Ehud Barak was an assassin.

    I'd say that tends to reflect somewhat on the kind of society that Israel is, and the nature of their voting public, no?

    these guys are not crazed settlers carrying out an illegal attack on some Palestinian grandmother, they're uniformed soldiers (cowards) in the IDF

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5T-hKpDSrg
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  • @Eagle Eye

    Our tax dollars don’t pay for what goes on in the Congo, the Sudans, ...
     
    Actually, our tax dollars (aka development aid) do pay for a good chunk of what goes on in sub-Saharan Africa.

    Our reps at the UN do not routinely defend atrocities committed by the governments of those countries.
     
    That's because the UN gives Third World hellholes a pass on human rights while the savages indulge in endless, Third-World style palavers about "human rights" in one particular country.

    If you can’t muster a better response to me than that you are going to have to leave the Hasbara Office and return to the task of beating small Palestinian children and gassing their mothers.

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  • @Sam Shama
    Art how lovely to see you again. Missed your endearing little posts of late. I trust you are drinking salt water exclusively over all other potables?

    No pork and beans either, and certainly not chocolate bars.


    Conflict - Sam

    Don’t tease Art about his PORK and beans.

    This is his favorite meal.

    With Trump’s proposed budget cuts he will no longer get free government issued cans of PORK and beans.

    He will have to rummage through trash cans for food.

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    [He will have to rummage through trash cans for food.]

    We should be confident nevertheless, that Jewish neighbourhood trash cans are very likely to remain safe from his depredations.

    I can't speak for others, particularly Cubans, who seem to favour pork over all else. A call for vigilance, I think.
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  • @Lot

    Ottoman troops defeated a combined force....
     
    And what was the outcome of the war in which that battle took place for the Ottoman Empire? Spoiler: The end of the Ottoman Empire.

    Anyway you missed my point. The Ottomans, even as their empire was collapsing, had no trouble keeping the Arabs under their boot.

    From Lot: “And what was the outcome of the war in which that battle took place for the Ottoman Empire? Spoiler: The end of the Ottoman Empire.”

    So what? WWI was also the end of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Russian Empire and Imperial Germany as well as the Ottoman Empire.

    From Lot: “The Ottomans, even as their empire was collapsing, had no trouble keeping the Arabs under their boot.”

    Again, so what? the Poles couldn’t free themselves from the Russians, nor could the Balts, Finns, Ukrainians, etc., etc. The Czechs, Slovaks and other central European minorities were ruled by the Habsburgs before WWI too.

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  • @geokat62

    That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties?

    back when Iraq II was on the cards, that a civil war would result and lead to mass casualties?
     

    I'm very disappointed in you, Sam. For a person who prides himself on being very informed, I'm somewhat surprised that you think that the civil war caused the deaths of half a million innocent Iraqi children. These children had all died prior to Iraq II, Sam.

    Even the AIPAC official, I quoted above, acknowledged the impact the harsh economic sanctions were having:


    Friedkin said AIPAC opposes the bill, although the organization recognizes the sponsors’ “very compassionate reasons” for proposing it.
     
    The whole world was aware of the impact the brutal economic sanctions were having on the innocent children of Iraq. The consequences of the brutal sanctions were so evident that several UN officials resigned their positions in protest. And the Iraqi ambassador to the UN, Saeed Hasan, bluntly explained why: "People are resigning because they could no more be silent on the genocide which is taking place in Iraq.":

    Second official quits UN Iraq team

    The United Nations sanctions against Iraq suffered a new setback yesterday after another high-ranking official was reported to have resigned in protest at the suffering of the civilian population.
    European diplomats in Baghdad said the head of the UN World Food Programme in Iraq, Jutta Purghart, of Germany, had quit her post.

    Her move came 24 hours after the UN accepted the resignation of the humanitarian coordinator, Hans von Sponeck, who protested at the impact of the sanctions on the civilian population.

    The sanctions policy has been criticised by other international humanitarian organisations operating in Iraq. Mr von Sponeck's predecessor, Denis Halliday, resigned in 1998, also over the sanctions.

    Sanctions were imposed after the invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Six years later, amid public pressure, the UN softened its stance and allowed Iraq to export some oil in return for food and medicines.

    Ms Purghart had administered the distribution of food supplies in Iraq under the oil-for-food deal since taking up her post in January 1999.

    A European diplomat said Ms Purghart had written to the World Food Programme headquarters in Rome to say she could not continue in her job because she believed that sanctions were a failure and caused suffering. She was said to be critical of the recent British-inspired UN resolution that offered to ease sanctions in return for Iraq allowing in weapons inspectors...

    The French government said it could understand the motives behind Mr von Sponeck's resignation. Speaking before Ms Purghart quit, a foreign ministry spokeswoman, Anne Gazeau-Secret, said of Mr von Sponeck: "His evaluation of the humanitarian situation in Iraq corresponds to reality. Without question, it reflects the views of all observers of the situation on the ground."

    Meanwhile, the US and Britain have insisted that President Saddam could end the suffering by allowing entry to weapons inspectors. A British foreign office spokeswoman said: "We would focus on the the programme, not the individuals. We trust the [UN] secretary general to appoint worthy successors."

    The Iraqi ambassador to the UN, Saeed Hasan, said: "People are resigning because they could no more be silent on the genocide which is taking place in Iraq."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/feb/16/iraq.unitednations
     


    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children?
     
    Sam, the answer to that question is a fairly simple one: members of The Lobby supported sanctions so that the Shia and Kurds would rise up against Saddam and over through his regime. That half a million children had to be sacrificed to achieve this goal is a price they were willing to pay, as Ms. Korbelová unexpectedly revealed in a moment of brutal honesty... something, I'm sure, we will never see from you.

    I am confused, I admit, trying to sort through all these atrocities Jews have been responsible for, both during Iraq I and II. Of course, those happen to be mere flickers in the scheme of things which started all the way back from Egypt and the Pharaoh, aren’t they?

    Brutal honesty in your world are only those items which fit the narrative carefully crafted following the brilliant principle of post hoc ergo propter hoc. I concede the case.

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    Brutal honesty in your world are only those items which fit the narrative carefully crafted following the brilliant principle of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
     
    Sorry for taking so long to respond, Sam. It took me awhile to dig up the specific proposed legislation that a few humane members of Congress had the temerity to introduce in the Knesset West, er, I mean Capitol Hill, back in 2000.

    The title of the proposed bill was Humanitarian Exports Leading to Peace Act. Here is an excerpt of the Findings section from the proposed bill:



    SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

    The Congress finds the following:

    (1) The Iraqi people suffered under a decade of war and continue to suffer under a repressive regime and the most comprehensive economic sanctions ever imposed on any country.

    (2) The economic sanctions have caused extraordinary hardship on the people of Iraq and failed to weaken the leadership of Iraq, and have undermined the institutions of civil society which are necessary for democratic political life.

    (3) The investigative panel established by the United Nations Security Council and other independent bodies have confirmed that the United Nations Oil-for-Food program has failed to adequately meet the needs of the Iraqi people.

    (4) According to the United States Department of Agriculture, Iraq represents a potential market for nearly $1,000,000,000 in agricultural products from the United States.

    (5) The sanctions regime continues to harm the Iraqi population for the crimes of its leaders and has not served either the goal of the United States of punishing Iraq’s leaders or disarming weapons of mass destruction.

    (6) Rigorous weapons inspections and adequate provision for civilian needs in Iraq are not mutually exclusive.


    (7) The devastating effect of the economic sanctions on Iraq has been reported by numerous international and independent bodies, including the following:

    (A) The Center for Economic and Social Rights of the United Nations documented dra- matic increases in malnutrition and disease, leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children under the age of 5 since 1991.

    (B) UNICEF reported in 1995 that ‘‘no significant movement towards food security can be achieved so long as the embargo remains in place’’. Further, despite the Oil-for-Food Program, UNICEF reported in July 1999 survey findings that ‘‘Both the infant mortality rate and the under-five mortality rate consistently show a major increase in mortality over the 10 years preceding the survey. More specifically, the results show that the infant mortality rate has increased from 47 deaths per 1,000 live births for the period 1984–89, to 108 deaths per 1,000 live births for the period 1994–99.’’.

    (C) A report authorized by the United National Security Council on March 30, 1999, found that ‘‘the gravity of the humanitarian situation of the Iraqi people is indisputable and cannot be overstated.’’. Further, it emphasized that ‘‘Even if not all suffering in Iraq can be imputed to external factors, especially sanctions, the Iraqi people would not be undergoing such deprivations in the absence of the prolonged measures imposed by the Security Council and the effects of the war’’.

    (D) UNICEF and the World Food Program found in 1997 that ‘‘One out of every 4 young Iraqi children is malnourished. More than 750,000 children are suffering from malnutrition’’.

    https://www.congress.gov/106/bills/hr3825/BILLS-106hr3825ih.pdf
     
    The sponsor of the proposed legislation had been Rep. Conyers and it incredibly had 39 cosponsors, one among whom was the courageous Rep. Cynthia McKinney (we all know what The Lobby had in store for her).

    Despite garnering this level of support, the Humanitarian Exports Leading to Peace Act of 2000 was quietly killed for some reason and the harshest sanctions ever imposed on a country continued for another 3 years.

    I concluded that since a representative of The Lobby was on the record with an admission that AIPAC opposed the bill, even conceding the organization recognized the sponsors had “very compassionate reasons” for proposing it, this very fact, along with its initial aim to remove Saddam from power, demonstrated to me The Lobby was willing to have the sanctions continue, and was, therefore, responsible for the deaths of half a million innocent Iraqi children who Ms. Korbelová, in a moment of honesty, was willing to admit that the price had been worth it.

    If you have drawn a different conclusion from this information, Sam, I'm all ears.
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  • @Sam Shama
    Yes, a great tragedy and I deplore it. Allbright is a disgrace. But the Lobby, if they did anything remotely relevant to your charge, mistakenly like many others, fearing Iraq's possession of WMDs, backed sanctions against Saddam.

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children? That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties? So they are monsters with perfect foresight. Are you really that lost? I don't believe so.

    Tell me, did Phillip Weis, this bloke you are so fond of quoting know, back when Iraq II was on the cards, that a civil war would result and lead to mass casualties? If he did, had he then rung the alarm bells? If memory serves, this entire nation and its congress were beckoning the dogs of war.

    To compare Barghouti's deliberate, calculated, heinous plots to slaughter Israeli civilians to the lobbying efforts of AIPAC is to engage in a leap of equivalence the likes of which has not been witnessed since the time Rodrigo Borgia equated garotting his competition of the cloth to serving the Almighty!

    That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties?

    back when Iraq II was on the cards, that a civil war would result and lead to mass casualties?

    I’m very disappointed in you, Sam. For a person who prides himself on being very informed, I’m somewhat surprised that you think that the civil war caused the deaths of half a million innocent Iraqi children. These children had all died prior to Iraq II, Sam.

    Even the AIPAC official, I quoted above, acknowledged the impact the harsh economic sanctions were having:

    Friedkin said AIPAC opposes the bill, although the organization recognizes the sponsors’ “very compassionate reasons” for proposing it.

    The whole world was aware of the impact the brutal economic sanctions were having on the innocent children of Iraq. The consequences of the brutal sanctions were so evident that several UN officials resigned their positions in protest. And the Iraqi ambassador to the UN, Saeed Hasan, bluntly explained why: “People are resigning because they could no more be silent on the genocide which is taking place in Iraq.”:

    Second official quits UN Iraq team

    The United Nations sanctions against Iraq suffered a new setback yesterday after another high-ranking official was reported to have resigned in protest at the suffering of the civilian population.
    European diplomats in Baghdad said the head of the UN World Food Programme in Iraq, Jutta Purghart, of Germany, had quit her post.

    Her move came 24 hours after the UN accepted the resignation of the humanitarian coordinator, Hans von Sponeck, who protested at the impact of the sanctions on the civilian population.

    The sanctions policy has been criticised by other international humanitarian organisations operating in Iraq. Mr von Sponeck’s predecessor, Denis Halliday, resigned in 1998, also over the sanctions.

    Sanctions were imposed after the invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Six years later, amid public pressure, the UN softened its stance and allowed Iraq to export some oil in return for food and medicines.

    Ms Purghart had administered the distribution of food supplies in Iraq under the oil-for-food deal since taking up her post in January 1999.

    A European diplomat said Ms Purghart had written to the World Food Programme headquarters in Rome to say she could not continue in her job because she believed that sanctions were a failure and caused suffering. She was said to be critical of the recent British-inspired UN resolution that offered to ease sanctions in return for Iraq allowing in weapons inspectors…

    The French government said it could understand the motives behind Mr von Sponeck’s resignation. Speaking before Ms Purghart quit, a foreign ministry spokeswoman, Anne Gazeau-Secret, said of Mr von Sponeck: “His evaluation of the humanitarian situation in Iraq corresponds to reality. Without question, it reflects the views of all observers of the situation on the ground.

    Meanwhile, the US and Britain have insisted that President Saddam could end the suffering by allowing entry to weapons inspectors. A British foreign office spokeswoman said: “We would focus on the the programme, not the individuals. We trust the [UN] secretary general to appoint worthy successors.”

    The Iraqi ambassador to the UN, Saeed Hasan, said: “People are resigning because they could no more be silent on the genocide which is taking place in Iraq.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/feb/16/iraq.unitednations

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children?

    Sam, the answer to that question is a fairly simple one: members of The Lobby supported sanctions so that the Shia and Kurds would rise up against Saddam and over through his regime. That half a million children had to be sacrificed to achieve this goal is a price they were willing to pay, as Ms. Korbelová unexpectedly revealed in a moment of brutal honesty… something, I’m sure, we will never see from you.

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    I am confused, I admit, trying to sort through all these atrocities Jews have been responsible for, both during Iraq I and II. Of course, those happen to be mere flickers in the scheme of things which started all the way back from Egypt and the Pharaoh, aren't they?

    Brutal honesty in your world are only those items which fit the narrative carefully crafted following the brilliant principle of post hoc ergo propter hoc. I concede the case.
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  • @Lot

    Which war do you say “The Palestinians’” started?
     
    The first Arab-Israeli War.

    1948 then? So there was a Palestinian people then?

    An Israeli Uber driver would disagree with you. When I proffered the thought that there was now a Palestinian people created by Israel from 1948 he siad no, it was 1967!

    In fact the discusiion of Palestiniàn non-existence as a people is full of cheap points. All Palestinians would have spoken Arabic. Amongst Jewish immigrants to Israel/Palestine the ethnicities and language groups would have been much more mixed and – less important perhaps – the genetic ancestries would have shown differences greater than any to appear in significant numbers amongst the Palestinians.

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  • @Jake
    It is no mistake, no accident that the New Testament was written not in Hebrew, nor in Aramaic, but in Greek. That is the most important clue about how Christian churches are to operate starting with Scripture and running to the nuts and bolts of how you build and maintain a Christian culture, which necessarily will resist both wings of Semitism. It starts with Greek, the language of philosophy.

    Christianity not operating with European language and European values will degenerate into a farce of anti-intellectualism that bows to Semitism. Specifically, those European languages must be bound to, and proudly, the languages and cultural achievements of Hellenism: namely, Greek and Latin.

    Here is my warning about Germanic languages, such as English. Arabic is the only standard language of the Koran. Islam makes cultural Semites of its adherents with Arabic and resulting immersion into Arabic culture.

    Jews only recreated Hebrew within the last century and a quarter. Yes, Hebrew was the language that Jews used, and still use, to promote the Jewish form of Semitism, which is most obvious in religion. But until very recently vernacular that swerved that purpose was Yiddish. Yiddish is German, with a small handful of Hebraisms. Yiddish is the Jewish dialect of German. Jews in Poland and Lithuania and Russia and Hungary, as well as in German speaking countries, all used Yiddish. French Jews used Yiddish. Jews expelled from Spain picked up Yiddish immediately and never looked back.

    Jews for more than a thousand years have seen German as the vernacular by which they can can keep their own culturally Semitic, and perhaps bring in a few Europeans.

    Now, Jews worldwide are dropping Yiddish for English.

    67 Jake > the New Testament was written not in Hebrew, nor in Aramaic, but in Greek.

    try selling that song-and-dance to the Coptic Christians

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    Marwan was recently busted eating candy in the bathroom as part of his “hunger strike”.
     
    Irene Weisberg Zisblatt ate diamonds -- after she'd pooped them. For four years.

    It would be tasteless to use the word "chocolate" in this comment.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhFN8Bb202I


    Strange but True (?) Tales of the holocaust: " I was sent to the Gas Chamber but it was full!"
    or, "I was on my way into the gas chamber when Mengele pulled me out,"
    or, "Maybe it was god that pulled me out of the gas chamber,"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wAbjUqHTNA

    “Strange but True (?) Tales of the holocaust: ” I was sent to the Gas Chamber but it was full!”
    That’s up there with “My grandparents escaped Belsen by knitting a hot air balloon out of fellow inmates belly button lint”.

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Which war do you say "The Palestinians'" started?
    Don't you have a problem with that script, given that Israelis keep on saying that there was (and usually say "is" despite some conceding that Israel changed everything in1967) no Palestinian people?
    In 1967 it was admitted to be a preemptive war by Israel against Jordan, Syria and Egypt so I am really at a loss to know what you are trying to say.

    Which war do you say “The Palestinians’” started?

    The first Arab-Israeli War.

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    1948 then? So there was a Palestinian people then?

    An Israeli Uber driver would disagree with you. When I proffered the thought that there was now a Palestinian people created by Israel from 1948 he siad no, it was 1967!

    In fact the discusiion of Palestiniàn non-existence as a people is full of cheap points. All Palestinians would have spoken Arabic. Amongst Jewish immigrants to Israel/Palestine the ethnicities and language groups would have been much more mixed and - less important perhaps - the genetic ancestries would have shown differences greater than any to appear in significant numbers amongst the Palestinians.
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  • Lot says:
    @JoaoAlfaiate
    "...the Ottomans were defeated again and again not just by Russians, but by under-supplied and disorganized Greek and Slav peasant armies. "

    Perhaps Lot missed the Gallipoli Campaign (Feb, 1915-Jan, 1916) in which 316,000 Ottoman troops defeated a combined force of Brits, Aussies, French and New Zealanders totalling some 490,000 men. Many of the Ottoman soldiers were Arabs who had been ordered out of greater Syria in 1914 to forestall a mutiny.

    And Lot missed the siege of Kut in Mesopotamia where in April of 1916 an Anglo Indian force under Gen. Townsend surrender to the Ottomans.

    And in April and March of 1917 the British under Archibald Murray were defeated in the First and Second Battles of Gaza. Notably the Brit used poison gas against the Turks, the first use of gas in the Middle East.

    I guess when you are trashing a whole people for "lack of honor and morality", facts just aren't important.

    Ottoman troops defeated a combined force….

    And what was the outcome of the war in which that battle took place for the Ottoman Empire? Spoiler: The end of the Ottoman Empire.

    Anyway you missed my point. The Ottomans, even as their empire was collapsing, had no trouble keeping the Arabs under their boot.

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    From Lot: "And what was the outcome of the war in which that battle took place for the Ottoman Empire? Spoiler: The end of the Ottoman Empire."

    So what? WWI was also the end of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Russian Empire and Imperial Germany as well as the Ottoman Empire.


    From Lot: "The Ottomans, even as their empire was collapsing, had no trouble keeping the Arabs under their boot."

    Again, so what? the Poles couldn't free themselves from the Russians, nor could the Balts, Finns, Ukrainians, etc., etc. The Czechs, Slovaks and other central European minorities were ruled by the Habsburgs before WWI too.
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  • @Sam Shama
    [Who’s responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? ]

    I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!


    [Who’s responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? ]

    Shameless: ‘I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!’

    No, not ‘Jews’ but Zionist vermin such as yourself.

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    You're becoming a bore, Sam.

    Wake me when you've received new talking points.

    Aye, your slumbers are famed for their deeply meditative and supernatural revelations. I dare not disturb that state.

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  • @geokat62

    I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!
     
    Thanks to Philip Weiss, we all got a glimpse into the machinations of The Lobby in perpetrating this dastardly deed:

    Though AIPAC wants to deny it now, it lobbied for the Iraq war. And CAP is participating in a coverup.

    Here’s the data:

    Back in 2000, AIPAC specifically worked to ramp up sanctions on Iraq because of its “weapons of mass destruction.” Remember them? In March 2000, AIPAC circulated an Action Alert to Congress, urging its members to put pressure on Congress to pressure the Clinton administration.

    If sanctions were lifted, Saddam could spend the oil revenue to accelerate Iraq’s military programs rather than on the humanitarian needs of Iraqi citizens.

    It is essential that you contact your representative today and urge them to sign the letter to President Clinton:
     
    Very similar to the Iran sanctions AIPAC pushed last summer.

    Then in April 2003, according to JWeekly, AIPAC rose up against a congressional effort led by California Republican Tom Campbell, then taking on Dianne Feinstein in a Senate race, to weaken those sanctions:

    The military threat from Iraq is a major concern of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which favors retaining economic sanctions.

    “Lifting sanctions wouldn’t benefit the Iraqi people,” said Amy Friedkin, an AIPAC national vice president who lives in San Francisco. Rather, it would enable Saddam to obtain more oil money, and use it to amass more weapons. That would constitute a danger to the rest of the Middle East and the world, she added…

    Campbell and his allies are now rallying behind H.R. 3825, legislation by Rep. John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) that would allow U.S. companies to export food and medicine to Iraq outside of the U.N. oil-for-food program. Campbell and Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-San Jose) are among the bill’s co-sponsors.

    Friedkin said AIPAC opposes the bill, although the organization recognizes the sponsors’ “very compassionate reasons” for proposing it.

    Elliot Brandt, AIPAC’s Pacific Northwest regional director, said: “AIPAC has no desire to hurt the people of Iraq, but we have a vested interest in hurting Saddam Hussein’s ability to build weapons of mass destruction. Rather than blaming the sanctions for hurting the people of Iraq, we should be putting the blame on Saddam Hussein, who is cynically and cruelly using his people as a political card to generate sympathy and support.”
     
    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/02/the-iraq-war-coverup-what-did-aipac-do-and-when-did-it-do-it/#sthash.XKSbwOxM.dpuf
     
    Half a million innocent children, Sam. Does this not qualify The Lobby as terrorists, according to your definition?

    Yes, a great tragedy and I deplore it. Allbright is a disgrace. But the Lobby, if they did anything remotely relevant to your charge, mistakenly like many others, fearing Iraq’s possession of WMDs, backed sanctions against Saddam.

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children? That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties? So they are monsters with perfect foresight. Are you really that lost? I don’t believe so.

    Tell me, did Phillip Weis, this bloke you are so fond of quoting know, back when Iraq II was on the cards, that a civil war would result and lead to mass casualties? If he did, had he then rung the alarm bells? If memory serves, this entire nation and its congress were beckoning the dogs of war.

    To compare Barghouti’s deliberate, calculated, heinous plots to slaughter Israeli civilians to the lobbying efforts of AIPAC is to engage in a leap of equivalence the likes of which has not been witnessed since the time Rodrigo Borgia equated garotting his competition of the cloth to serving the Almighty!

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    That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties?

    back when Iraq II was on the cards, that a civil war would result and lead to mass casualties?
     

    I'm very disappointed in you, Sam. For a person who prides himself on being very informed, I'm somewhat surprised that you think that the civil war caused the deaths of half a million innocent Iraqi children. These children had all died prior to Iraq II, Sam.

    Even the AIPAC official, I quoted above, acknowledged the impact the harsh economic sanctions were having:


    Friedkin said AIPAC opposes the bill, although the organization recognizes the sponsors’ “very compassionate reasons” for proposing it.
     
    The whole world was aware of the impact the brutal economic sanctions were having on the innocent children of Iraq. The consequences of the brutal sanctions were so evident that several UN officials resigned their positions in protest. And the Iraqi ambassador to the UN, Saeed Hasan, bluntly explained why: "People are resigning because they could no more be silent on the genocide which is taking place in Iraq.":

    Second official quits UN Iraq team

    The United Nations sanctions against Iraq suffered a new setback yesterday after another high-ranking official was reported to have resigned in protest at the suffering of the civilian population.
    European diplomats in Baghdad said the head of the UN World Food Programme in Iraq, Jutta Purghart, of Germany, had quit her post.

    Her move came 24 hours after the UN accepted the resignation of the humanitarian coordinator, Hans von Sponeck, who protested at the impact of the sanctions on the civilian population.

    The sanctions policy has been criticised by other international humanitarian organisations operating in Iraq. Mr von Sponeck's predecessor, Denis Halliday, resigned in 1998, also over the sanctions.

    Sanctions were imposed after the invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Six years later, amid public pressure, the UN softened its stance and allowed Iraq to export some oil in return for food and medicines.

    Ms Purghart had administered the distribution of food supplies in Iraq under the oil-for-food deal since taking up her post in January 1999.

    A European diplomat said Ms Purghart had written to the World Food Programme headquarters in Rome to say she could not continue in her job because she believed that sanctions were a failure and caused suffering. She was said to be critical of the recent British-inspired UN resolution that offered to ease sanctions in return for Iraq allowing in weapons inspectors...

    The French government said it could understand the motives behind Mr von Sponeck's resignation. Speaking before Ms Purghart quit, a foreign ministry spokeswoman, Anne Gazeau-Secret, said of Mr von Sponeck: "His evaluation of the humanitarian situation in Iraq corresponds to reality. Without question, it reflects the views of all observers of the situation on the ground."

    Meanwhile, the US and Britain have insisted that President Saddam could end the suffering by allowing entry to weapons inspectors. A British foreign office spokeswoman said: "We would focus on the the programme, not the individuals. We trust the [UN] secretary general to appoint worthy successors."

    The Iraqi ambassador to the UN, Saeed Hasan, said: "People are resigning because they could no more be silent on the genocide which is taking place in Iraq."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/feb/16/iraq.unitednations
     


    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children?
     
    Sam, the answer to that question is a fairly simple one: members of The Lobby supported sanctions so that the Shia and Kurds would rise up against Saddam and over through his regime. That half a million children had to be sacrificed to achieve this goal is a price they were willing to pay, as Ms. Korbelová unexpectedly revealed in a moment of brutal honesty... something, I'm sure, we will never see from you.
    , @SolontoCroesus

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children? That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties? So they are monsters with perfect foresight. Are you really that lost? I don’t believe so.
     

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4196885,00.html
    צילום: רויטרס
    Should West starve Iran?

    Israeli officials: Starve Iranians to stop nukes

    ". . .hunger in Iran could prompt regime to 'consider whether nuclear adventure is worthwhile', Jerusalem official says"
    Attila Somfalvi|Published: 29.02.12 , 20:18

    Iran's citizens should be starved in order to curb Tehran's nuclear program, officials in Jerusalem said Wednesday ahead of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's upcoming trip to Washington.

    "North Korea is halting its nuclear program in order to receive aid in food, and this is what should be done with Iran as well," one unnamed official said. [h/t Nima Shirazi, http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2012/03/inhumanity-of-iran-threat-rhetoric.html ]
     

    Five important points emerge from this brief article from a Jewish - Israeli newspaper:

    1. Jews have no problem calling for the starvation of other people's children; its a repeated pattern -- they did it to Germans, they collaborated to do it to Russians/Ukrainians, they are doing it to Palestinians (see ** below). Is this psychopathology part of the Israeli DNA: the mythology has become internalized -- spare the son of Abraham, kill the unblemished -- that is, innocent-- ram caught in the thicket, in order to enable Jews to collect on the promises of their psychopathic god.

    2. Jews call upon non-Jews -- i.e. "the West" -- to carry out their murderous endeavors, also a Jewish pattern of behavior.

    3. What is completely and totally outrageous and infuriating is the extent to which "Christian" and Catholic actors line up to suck Jewish balls to carry out their sub-human programs of sanctions and starvation. Ed Royce, nominally Roman Catholic, tops this list. This morning Francis Rooney, former ambassador to Vatican now Rep from Florida, bruited "Judeo-Christian values" -- a contradiction in terms -- and also endorsed increasing sanctions on Iran -- a contradiction of not only (allegedly) Christian values but also of the United Nations Charter/international law. Rooney endorsed the "small sale" of weapons to KSA to assist the Saudis in their campaign of starving Houthis, who are (minimally) supported by Iran.

    4. Starving other nations to force submission to Jewish / Western demands does not work: North Korea did NOT halt its nuclear program.

    5. So enthralled to this psychopathic behavior are Jews and the non-Jews who have been seduced, Faust-like, to that dark side, that they have rendered themselves incapable of behaving within truly civilized norms. Kevin MacDonald explored this phenomenon here:
    The Psychology of Prohibiting Outside Thinkers
    http://www.unz.com/article/justin-murphys-the-psychology-of-prohibiting-outside-thinkers/

    ---
    **


    "In 2006, after Palestinians democratically elected Hamas to the shock and chagrin of both Israel and the United States . . . a devastating economic siege was imposed on the 1.5 million residents of Gaza by Israel as punishment for the crime of Palestinian self-determination. As Dov Weisglass, adviser to then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, said with a chuckle, "It's like an appointment with a dietitian. The Palestinians in Gaza will get a lot thinner, but won't die."

    What's so obviously funny about Weisglass' statement is that, due to the brutal blockade that has deliberately strangled Gaza for six years, at least 61% of Palestinians in the territory are "food insecure," of which "65% are children under 18 years;" the level of anemia in infants is as high as 65.5%, about 70% of Palestinians in Gaza live on less than $1 a day, over 80% rely on food aid, and 60% have no daily access to water, 95% of which is undrinkable anyway." Shirazi, op cit.
     

    Shove your chocolate fixation up your ass, Shama; maybe it will emerge as diamonds you can use to try to buy your way out of hell.
    , @L.K
    It's amazing how many lies you can produce in just one miserable post... but then again, you have been caught lying numerous times by several people. Pinocchio would blush near you.

    Sham: "But the Lobby, if they did anything remotely relevant to your charge, mistakenly like many others, fearing Iraq’s possession of WMDs, backed sanctions against Saddam."

    There were NO mistakes, imbecile, the WMD thing was merely a prop to justify the sanctions which, in turn, aimed at regime-change, by punishing the civilian population, and deaths were expected.

    After years of draconian sanctions( a form of terrorism ), your heroes used their well documented influence to get ZUSA to invade Iraq, causing all of the mess we see today.
    The forced war on Syria is also, at heart, a Zionist affair, as former CIA Ray McGovern stated, one cannot make sense of US policy re Syria without Israel.
    It is all part of the “We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..”
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  • @JoaoAlfaiate
    Our tax dollars don't pay for what goes on in the Congo, the Sudans, North Korea and the other places you mention. But we pay for Israel.

    Our reps at the UN do not routinely defend atrocities committed by the governments of those countries. But our folks at the UN defend and excuse Israel's crimes and violations of international law.

    The countries you mention do not have lobbying operations and friends in the USA which distort US foreign policy for their benefit. The US supports Israel's outrageous behavior and is thus the target of Islamic terrorists. And we continue to fight wars for Israel, Syria and Iran being the next targets-justifications being ginned up by Israel and its supporters and lobbyists here.

    Our tax dollars don’t pay for what goes on in the Congo, the Sudans, …

    Actually, our tax dollars (aka development aid) do pay for a good chunk of what goes on in sub-Saharan Africa.

    Our reps at the UN do not routinely defend atrocities committed by the governments of those countries.

    That’s because the UN gives Third World hellholes a pass on human rights while the savages indulge in endless, Third-World style palavers about “human rights” in one particular country.

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    If you can't muster a better response to me than that you are going to have to leave the Hasbara Office and return to the task of beating small Palestinian children and gassing their mothers.
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  • @geokat62

    But [Barghouti] is both a terrorist and a poseur who fancies himself the new M.K. Gandhi; except Gandhi did not sneak chocolate bars during his many hunger strikes, let alone order the murder of children in school buses.
     
    I couldn't agree more, Sam. Anyone who wants to murder innocent children is definitely a terrorist in my books. Which brings me to the death of the 500,000 innocent Iraqi children. You remember them, don't you, Sam? The ones that US Amassador to UN Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová), when 60 Minutes' Lesley Stahl put the following question to her: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" replied, "We think the price is worth it."

    Who's responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? Are you willing to provide as honest an answer as Ms. Korbelová provided to Lesley Stahl?

    Giraldi notes that “1500 Palestinians are held in Israeli prisons,” some of them for life; some of them since their childhood, some of them denied the right to see their parents.

    But American legislators froth at the mouth at the “human rights abuses” committed by Iran’s government.

    One begins to think US Congressmen get a hard on just contemplating imposing sanctions on Iran.

    Five years ago Nima Shirazi wrote about the “Inhumanity of Iran Threat Rhetoric” here:
    “Hurting, Hanging, Suffocating, and Starving”

    http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2012/03/inhumanity-of-iran-threat-rhetoric.html

    A few days ago, the estimable Sanam Naraghi-Anderlini spoke on a NIAC panel about the election in Iran. Once again, the topic of the need to punish Iran for its “human rights abuses” was raised.

    Anderlini said: SANCTIONS WERE THE GREATEST HUMAN RIGHTS ATTACK ON THE AVERAGE IRANIAN OVER THE YEARS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT BABIES AND PREGNANT WOMEN AND PEOPLE WITH CANCER, AND ALL THE ISSUES WE WERE FACED WITH, FOR US, FOR THE WORLD TO SIT HERE IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO TALK ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS IN IRAN AND NOT ADDRESSED THIS ASPECT OF IT IS HYPOCRISY. WE HAVE TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?428820-1/forum-analyzes-iranian-presidential-election-results

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  • @Sam Shama
    [Who’s responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? ]

    I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!

    I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!

    Thanks to Philip Weiss, we all got a glimpse into the machinations of The Lobby in perpetrating this dastardly deed:

    Though AIPAC wants to deny it now, it lobbied for the Iraq war. And CAP is participating in a coverup.

    Here’s the data:

    Back in 2000, AIPAC specifically worked to ramp up sanctions on Iraq because of its “weapons of mass destruction.” Remember them? In March 2000, AIPAC circulated an Action Alert to Congress, urging its members to put pressure on Congress to pressure the Clinton administration.

    If sanctions were lifted, Saddam could spend the oil revenue to accelerate Iraq’s military programs rather than on the humanitarian needs of Iraqi citizens.

    It is essential that you contact your representative today and urge them to sign the letter to President Clinton:

    Very similar to the Iran sanctions AIPAC pushed last summer.

    Then in April 2003, according to JWeekly, AIPAC rose up against a congressional effort led by California Republican Tom Campbell, then taking on Dianne Feinstein in a Senate race, to weaken those sanctions:

    The military threat from Iraq is a major concern of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which favors retaining economic sanctions.

    “Lifting sanctions wouldn’t benefit the Iraqi people,” said Amy Friedkin, an AIPAC national vice president who lives in San Francisco. Rather, it would enable Saddam to obtain more oil money, and use it to amass more weapons. That would constitute a danger to the rest of the Middle East and the world, she added…

    Campbell and his allies are now rallying behind H.R. 3825, legislation by Rep. John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) that would allow U.S. companies to export food and medicine to Iraq outside of the U.N. oil-for-food program. Campbell and Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-San Jose) are among the bill’s co-sponsors.

    Friedkin said AIPAC opposes the bill, although the organization recognizes the sponsors’ “very compassionate reasons” for proposing it.

    Elliot Brandt, AIPAC’s Pacific Northwest regional director, said: “AIPAC has no desire to hurt the people of Iraq, but we have a vested interest in hurting Saddam Hussein’s ability to build weapons of mass destruction. Rather than blaming the sanctions for hurting the people of Iraq, we should be putting the blame on Saddam Hussein, who is cynically and cruelly using his people as a political card to generate sympathy and support.”

    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/02/the-iraq-war-coverup-what-did-aipac-do-and-when-did-it-do-it/#sthash.XKSbwOxM.dpuf

    Half a million innocent children, Sam. Does this not qualify The Lobby as terrorists, according to your definition?

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    Yes, a great tragedy and I deplore it. Allbright is a disgrace. But the Lobby, if they did anything remotely relevant to your charge, mistakenly like many others, fearing Iraq's possession of WMDs, backed sanctions against Saddam.

    Are you seriously asserting that Jewish members of AIPAC supported sanctions just so they could kill children? That they knew, in fact planned, the civil war which would ensue, leading to those casualties? So they are monsters with perfect foresight. Are you really that lost? I don't believe so.

    Tell me, did Phillip Weis, this bloke you are so fond of quoting know, back when Iraq II was on the cards, that a civil war would result and lead to mass casualties? If he did, had he then rung the alarm bells? If memory serves, this entire nation and its congress were beckoning the dogs of war.

    To compare Barghouti's deliberate, calculated, heinous plots to slaughter Israeli civilians to the lobbying efforts of AIPAC is to engage in a leap of equivalence the likes of which has not been witnessed since the time Rodrigo Borgia equated garotting his competition of the cloth to serving the Almighty!

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  • @Anon
    um...Marwan was recently busted eating candy in the bathroom as part of his "hunger strike".

    Go get a life Giraldi

    Marwan was recently busted eating candy in the bathroom as part of his “hunger strike”.

    Irene Weisberg Zisblatt ate diamonds — after she’d pooped them. For four years.

    It would be tasteless to use the word “chocolate” in this comment.

    Strange but True (?) Tales of the holocaust: ” I was sent to the Gas Chamber but it was full!”
    or, “I was on my way into the gas chamber when Mengele pulled me out,”
    or, “Maybe it was god that pulled me out of the gas chamber,”

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    "Strange but True (?) Tales of the holocaust: ” I was sent to the Gas Chamber but it was full!”
    That's up there with "My grandparents escaped Belsen by knitting a hot air balloon out of fellow inmates belly button lint".
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  • @Sam Shama
    A valiant effort to whitewash the record of a convicted murderer.

    The chocolate-in-the-loo affair clearly provides a peek into Barghouti's duplicitous nature, neglecting the list of over 30 cases of massacre, committed primarily by suicide bombers, paid and directed by Barghouti during the 2nd Intifada. Convicted only in 5 of the 33 for lack of evidence, his image is airbrushed of the infamy he deserves in the least, for the slaughter school children in buses.

    It should not require saying the man is a wily operative, politically savvy and always resourceful with support from his gullible western bleeders. This whole theatre about mistreatment in Israeli gaols is nothing more than a stunt to gain in absentia, the leading slot in PA polls.

    [he should be treated to a week in a Turkish prison https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-10-19/torture-and-abuse-rampant-turkish-prisons-despite-attempts-reform]

    You’re becoming a bore, Sam.

    Wake me when you’ve received new talking points.

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    Aye, your slumbers are famed for their deeply meditative and supernatural revelations. I dare not disturb that state.
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  • @Art
    [he should be treated to a week in a Turkish prison

    Oh my – the Jew claims to be better than the worst. Give him a ribbon!

    How is it that the Jew is always second from the bottom?

    An aside:

    In the current upside-down Jew Western world – little 8-year-old little girls go to concerts were the entertainment is a perverse example of womanhood, who shows off her body parts in provocative twerks. The little girl gets to yell and scream for two hours before she is murdered by an enemy of the Jews.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. In the Christian West, for the previous 145 years, she went to Barnum & Baily circuses with her family. She was in danger of eating too much cotton candy.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/prison-conditions/

    What on earth were you trying to get at with your ‘aside’?

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  • @geokat62

    But [Barghouti] is both a terrorist and a poseur who fancies himself the new M.K. Gandhi; except Gandhi did not sneak chocolate bars during his many hunger strikes, let alone order the murder of children in school buses.
     
    I couldn't agree more, Sam. Anyone who wants to murder innocent children is definitely a terrorist in my books. Which brings me to the death of the 500,000 innocent Iraqi children. You remember them, don't you, Sam? The ones that US Amassador to UN Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová), when 60 Minutes' Lesley Stahl put the following question to her: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" replied, "We think the price is worth it."

    Who's responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? Are you willing to provide as honest an answer as Ms. Korbelová provided to Lesley Stahl?

    [Who’s responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? ]

    I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!

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    I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!
     
    Thanks to Philip Weiss, we all got a glimpse into the machinations of The Lobby in perpetrating this dastardly deed:

    Though AIPAC wants to deny it now, it lobbied for the Iraq war. And CAP is participating in a coverup.

    Here’s the data:

    Back in 2000, AIPAC specifically worked to ramp up sanctions on Iraq because of its “weapons of mass destruction.” Remember them? In March 2000, AIPAC circulated an Action Alert to Congress, urging its members to put pressure on Congress to pressure the Clinton administration.

    If sanctions were lifted, Saddam could spend the oil revenue to accelerate Iraq’s military programs rather than on the humanitarian needs of Iraqi citizens.

    It is essential that you contact your representative today and urge them to sign the letter to President Clinton:
     
    Very similar to the Iran sanctions AIPAC pushed last summer.

    Then in April 2003, according to JWeekly, AIPAC rose up against a congressional effort led by California Republican Tom Campbell, then taking on Dianne Feinstein in a Senate race, to weaken those sanctions:

    The military threat from Iraq is a major concern of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which favors retaining economic sanctions.

    “Lifting sanctions wouldn’t benefit the Iraqi people,” said Amy Friedkin, an AIPAC national vice president who lives in San Francisco. Rather, it would enable Saddam to obtain more oil money, and use it to amass more weapons. That would constitute a danger to the rest of the Middle East and the world, she added…

    Campbell and his allies are now rallying behind H.R. 3825, legislation by Rep. John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) that would allow U.S. companies to export food and medicine to Iraq outside of the U.N. oil-for-food program. Campbell and Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-San Jose) are among the bill’s co-sponsors.

    Friedkin said AIPAC opposes the bill, although the organization recognizes the sponsors’ “very compassionate reasons” for proposing it.

    Elliot Brandt, AIPAC’s Pacific Northwest regional director, said: “AIPAC has no desire to hurt the people of Iraq, but we have a vested interest in hurting Saddam Hussein’s ability to build weapons of mass destruction. Rather than blaming the sanctions for hurting the people of Iraq, we should be putting the blame on Saddam Hussein, who is cynically and cruelly using his people as a political card to generate sympathy and support.”
     
    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/02/the-iraq-war-coverup-what-did-aipac-do-and-when-did-it-do-it/#sthash.XKSbwOxM.dpuf
     
    Half a million innocent children, Sam. Does this not qualify The Lobby as terrorists, according to your definition?
    , @L.K
    @geokat62
    [Who’s responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? ]

    Shameless: 'I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!'

    No, not 'Jews' but Zionist vermin such as yourself.
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  • @Art
    [he should be treated to a week in a Turkish prison

    Oh my – the Jew claims to be better than the worst. Give him a ribbon!

    How is it that the Jew is always second from the bottom?

    An aside:

    In the current upside-down Jew Western world – little 8-year-old little girls go to concerts were the entertainment is a perverse example of womanhood, who shows off her body parts in provocative twerks. The little girl gets to yell and scream for two hours before she is murdered by an enemy of the Jews.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. In the Christian West, for the previous 145 years, she went to Barnum & Baily circuses with her family. She was in danger of eating too much cotton candy.

    You are mentally disturbed, you really are. Seek help.

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  • @geokat62

    But [Barghouti] is both a terrorist and a poseur who fancies himself the new M.K. Gandhi; except Gandhi did not sneak chocolate bars during his many hunger strikes, let alone order the murder of children in school buses.
     
    I couldn't agree more, Sam. Anyone who wants to murder innocent children is definitely a terrorist in my books. Which brings me to the death of the 500,000 innocent Iraqi children. You remember them, don't you, Sam? The ones that US Amassador to UN Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová), when 60 Minutes' Lesley Stahl put the following question to her: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" replied, "We think the price is worth it."

    Who's responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? Are you willing to provide as honest an answer as Ms. Korbelová provided to Lesley Stahl?

    Anyone who wants to murder innocent children is definitely a terrorist in my books.

    You haven’t addressed the question of whether the hero of this post murdered children.

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  • Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    A valiant effort to whitewash the record of a convicted murderer.

    The chocolate-in-the-loo affair clearly provides a peek into Barghouti's duplicitous nature, neglecting the list of over 30 cases of massacre, committed primarily by suicide bombers, paid and directed by Barghouti during the 2nd Intifada. Convicted only in 5 of the 33 for lack of evidence, his image is airbrushed of the infamy he deserves in the least, for the slaughter school children in buses.

    It should not require saying the man is a wily operative, politically savvy and always resourceful with support from his gullible western bleeders. This whole theatre about mistreatment in Israeli gaols is nothing more than a stunt to gain in absentia, the leading slot in PA polls.

    [he should be treated to a week in a Turkish prison https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-10-19/torture-and-abuse-rampant-turkish-prisons-despite-attempts-reform]

    [he should be treated to a week in a Turkish prison

    Oh my – the Jew claims to be better than the worst. Give him a ribbon!

    How is it that the Jew is always second from the bottom?

    An aside:

    In the current upside-down Jew Western world – little 8-year-old little girls go to concerts were the entertainment is a perverse example of womanhood, who shows off her body parts in provocative twerks. The little girl gets to yell and scream for two hours before she is murdered by an enemy of the Jews.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. In the Christian West, for the previous 145 years, she went to Barnum & Baily circuses with her family. She was in danger of eating too much cotton candy.

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    You are mentally disturbed, you really are. Seek help.
    , @Sam Shama
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/prison-conditions/

    What on earth were you trying to get at with your 'aside'?
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  • @Sam Shama
    There are no contradictions. Of course, Begin et al were considered terrorists by the British authority, according to the law in effect at the time.

    Barghouti, according to the sovereign law in effect today. But he is both a terrorist and a poseur who fancies himself the new M.K. Gandhi; except Gandhi did not sneak chocolate bars during his many hunger strikes, let alone order the murder of children in school buses.

    But [Barghouti] is both a terrorist and a poseur who fancies himself the new M.K. Gandhi; except Gandhi did not sneak chocolate bars during his many hunger strikes, let alone order the murder of children in school buses.

    I couldn’t agree more, Sam. Anyone who wants to murder innocent children is definitely a terrorist in my books. Which brings me to the death of the 500,000 innocent Iraqi children. You remember them, don’t you, Sam? The ones that US Amassador to UN Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová), when 60 Minutes’ Lesley Stahl put the following question to her: “We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?” replied, “We think the price is worth it.”

    Who’s responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? Are you willing to provide as honest an answer as Ms. Korbelová provided to Lesley Stahl?

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Anyone who wants to murder innocent children is definitely a terrorist in my books.

    You haven't addressed the question of whether the hero of this post murdered children.
    , @Sam Shama
    [Who’s responsible for the deaths of those half a million innocent children, Sam? ]

    I get the feeling you are about to tell me. So do tell me. But wait, let me take a wild guess: Jews!
    , @SolontoCroesus
    Giraldi notes that "1500 Palestinians are held in Israeli prisons," some of them for life; some of them since their childhood, some of them denied the right to see their parents.

    But American legislators froth at the mouth at the "human rights abuses" committed by Iran's government.

    One begins to think US Congressmen get a hard on just contemplating imposing sanctions on Iran.

    Five years ago Nima Shirazi wrote about the "Inhumanity of Iran Threat Rhetoric" here:
    "Hurting, Hanging, Suffocating, and Starving"
    http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2012/03/inhumanity-of-iran-threat-rhetoric.html

    A few days ago, the estimable Sanam Naraghi-Anderlini spoke on a NIAC panel about the election in Iran. Once again, the topic of the need to punish Iran for its "human rights abuses" was raised.

    Anderlini said: SANCTIONS WERE THE GREATEST HUMAN RIGHTS ATTACK ON THE AVERAGE IRANIAN OVER THE YEARS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT BABIES AND PREGNANT WOMEN AND PEOPLE WITH CANCER, AND ALL THE ISSUES WE WERE FACED WITH, FOR US, FOR THE WORLD TO SIT HERE IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO TALK ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS IN IRAN AND NOT ADDRESSED THIS ASPECT OF IT IS HYPOCRISY. WE HAVE TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?428820-1/forum-analyzes-iranian-presidential-election-results
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  • @Anon
    um...Marwan was recently busted eating candy in the bathroom as part of his "hunger strike".

    Go get a life Giraldi

    That is funny. LOL.

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    I feel so sorry for poor Sam Shama, single-handedly fighting the good fight, defending the Jewish version of truth, justice and the zionist way. With nothing to support and sustain him but his Viennese elitist pedigree, his European education, his PhD, his Wall Street career, his participation in 'reparations payments' and political cover to his tribe, which tribe enjoys the military, financial and political backing of the world's most deluded superpower; his membership in the Chosens, -- in other words, just this side of bare-knuckes, Sam maintains righteously that Barghouti deserves everything he's suffering

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1881768

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1882033

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1882248

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883349

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883479

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883482

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883575


    CHOCOLATE!

    Guilty as charged!

    Into the oven with you, Barghouti.

    A valiant effort to whitewash the record of a convicted murderer.

    The chocolate-in-the-loo affair clearly provides a peek into Barghouti’s duplicitous nature, neglecting the list of over 30 cases of massacre, committed primarily by suicide bombers, paid and directed by Barghouti during the 2nd Intifada. Convicted only in 5 of the 33 for lack of evidence, his image is airbrushed of the infamy he deserves in the least, for the slaughter school children in buses.

    It should not require saying the man is a wily operative, politically savvy and always resourceful with support from his gullible western bleeders. This whole theatre about mistreatment in Israeli gaols is nothing more than a stunt to gain in absentia, the leading slot in PA polls.

    [he should be treated to a week in a Turkish prison https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-10-19/torture-and-abuse-rampant-turkish-prisons-despite-attempts-reform

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    [he should be treated to a week in a Turkish prison

    Oh my – the Jew claims to be better than the worst. Give him a ribbon!

    How is it that the Jew is always second from the bottom?

    An aside:

    In the current upside-down Jew Western world – little 8-year-old little girls go to concerts were the entertainment is a perverse example of womanhood, who shows off her body parts in provocative twerks. The little girl gets to yell and scream for two hours before she is murdered by an enemy of the Jews.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. In the Christian West, for the previous 145 years, she went to Barnum & Baily circuses with her family. She was in danger of eating too much cotton candy.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    You're becoming a bore, Sam.

    Wake me when you've received new talking points.

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  • Art says:
    @Eagle Eye

    [Eagle Eye:] What Barghouti and his ilk REALLY want is a Final Solution without a single Jew, not a “two-state solution.”

    [Art responds:] What self-respecting human being would not feel as Barghouti does?

     
    Thank you for the honest reply.

    This is what the sober portion of Israel's body politic is faced with. This is why a two-state "solution" would be suicide, no matter what safeguards are solemnly recited on parchment.

    Deals with Muslims are like shooting stars or Instagram pictures - they sparkle for one bright and shiny moment, then disappear never to be seen again.

    [Eagle Eye:] What Barghouti and his ilk REALLY want is a Final Solution without a single Jew, not a “two-state solution.”

    [Art responds:] What self-respecting human being would not feel as Barghouti does?

    Thank you for the honest reply.

    This is what the sober portion of Israel’s body politic is faced with. This is why a two-state “solution” would be suicide, no matter what safeguards are solemnly recited on parchment.

    How does this work – you steal my land – then you say, “there is no recourse to you because you are so mad at me.”

    You say, “after we abused and treated you so badly and because you are so disgruntled, you may never have the normal freedoms and benefits of being part of a nation of your own.”

    When are you Jews going to accept responsibility for the wrong that you have so obviously done?

    Peace — Art

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  • @Rurik

    Humans are humans, not the messiah responsible for every so called ‘wrong’ on the planet. We are designed to care about our immediate contacts, not people living on the other side of the world.

    ... Into this melee come whinging Western do-gooders, complaining people are killing one another
     
    well, speaking about whinging, since I've been alive, I've been subjected to a barrage of whinging the likes of which would fill a thousand galaxies.

    the narrative of the evil Nazi and the hysterical histrionics of their messianic suffering- has permeated every facet of my existence until it has become codified into the matrix of the Western 'reality'. Holocaust here, Holocaust there. Holocaust everywhere! The seminal event in the history of the world ! Nothing come close to what they suffered.

    The evil of the Nazis defines every questionable motive on earth. Adolf Hitler has become the modern Satan, only far, far worse.

    Ask any person living in the Western world who were the most evil, evil, evil people that ever lived? And we all know the answer, don't we?

    ask anyone who the most EVIL man that ever lived was in the history of the universe. And yep, that's right. We all know, instinctively, intuitively, like a catechism hammered in with Pavlovian determination and relentless, endless repetition. Our suffering!!!!

    Yea, talk to me about whinging all you want to, but if you're alive today, you've probably seen about three thousand Holocaust/evil Nazi movies in your lifetime, and many, many more to come.

    So then that brings us to the issue of hypocrisy vis-a-vis the Palestinian question, doesn't it?

    If the most evil people in the history of the world, that ever lived and whose descendants must be reminded of their evil every single day... because they tried to ethnically cleanse / or genocide, (depending on the narrative that suits you) a race of people out of their lands...

    and if doing so was the most EVIL and monstrous and unforgiveable thing that has ever, ever, ever been done.....

    then how is it that we Americans are supposed to sanguinely stand by as our tax dollars and moral sanction are used to perpetrate an even less justifiable ethnic cleansing today, after we've been so thoroughly harangued and berated and screeched at our entire lives, that genocide is not only wrong, but the worst thing on this planet that anyone could be party to?

    Eh?

    Are we to believe that the only reason that the Holocaust was the most EVIL thing that ever happened since the beginning of time, is because it was done to the chosen people?

    and that if such a state of affairs is reversed, and it's the chosen people who are perpetrating the genocide, that we should all cheer, or at least stop whinging about it?

    pop the cap on a beer and turn on the game and pay our taxes and chew our cud?

    wow honey, it's another Holocaust, evil Nazi show on TV! That's the third one today. Get the nachos and put the Budweiser in the fridge, it looks like Meryl Streep and Liam Neeson are in this one and it's directed by Stephan Spielberg!

    Yeah, it’s always fun to review Netflix’s newest offerings to see what new hocaust/nazi stuff has been added. I have this game I play with my wife where I predict which will focus on the nazis. Am almost always right — anything that shows people in 1940s fashions is a dead giveaway. It’s reached the point where it’s kind of comical.

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    It’s reached the point where it’s kind of comical.
     
    yes, except most people are very much effected by it all.

    Most people consider what's on television as more 'real' than what's not
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  • @Art

    So Pals bring suicide bombers to nightclubs, weddings and shopping malls while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas’ military positions. Where people arguing the Pal position run into trouble, is when they demand Israel not enforce laws.
     
    This Jew knows that the pain inflected on the Palestinians is a hundred times what the Palestinians have done to the Jews.

    This man marks himself as a liar and propagandist. He uses his brain to thwart justice and peace. What a sad little man.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Jew law is the law of the tribal jungle - the only outlet the Palestinians have is physical.

    p.s. Palestinians did not have a hand in making those laws.

    Art how lovely to see you again. Missed your endearing little posts of late. I trust you are drinking salt water exclusively over all other potables?

    No pork and beans either, and certainly not chocolate bars.

    Conflict – Sam

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    Don't tease Art about his PORK and beans.

    This is his favorite meal.

    With Trump's proposed budget cuts he will no longer get free government issued cans of PORK and beans.

    He will have to rummage through trash cans for food.
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  • @Sam Shama
    Well, I agree with you, perhaps better to have not responded.

    But Begin was considered a terrorist by the Crown, and he did inflict severe damage to British assets. But they were all non-civilian targets. So Pals bring suicide bombers to nightclubs, weddings and shopping malls while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas' military positions. Where people arguing the Pal position run into trouble, is when they demand Israel not enforce laws. It is irrelevant to me whether the Barghoutis consider those laws null and void; yet I require they do so while understanding the consequences, which are well-defined.

    All Arab states have more or less washed their hands clean of the Palestinian question. They kept the 'cause' alive as long as it suited their domestic political agenda.

    BTW, here's the video of Barghouti sneaking chocolate in his prison cell, while on 'hunger strike' which he had previously announced on the NYTimes.

    https://youtu.be/3TknOt_GSkQ

    I feel so sorry for poor Sam Shama, single-handedly fighting the good fight, defending the Jewish version of truth, justice and the zionist way. With nothing to support and sustain him but his Viennese elitist pedigree, his European education, his PhD, his Wall Street career, his participation in ‘reparations payments’ and political cover to his tribe, which tribe enjoys the military, financial and political backing of the world’s most deluded superpower; his membership in the Chosens, — in other words, just this side of bare-knuckes, Sam maintains righteously that Barghouti deserves everything he’s suffering

    because

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1881768

    because

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1882033

    because

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1882248

    because

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883349

    because

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883479

    because

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883482

    because

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883575

    CHOCOLATE!

    Guilty as charged!

    Into the oven with you, Barghouti.

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    A valiant effort to whitewash the record of a convicted murderer.

    The chocolate-in-the-loo affair clearly provides a peek into Barghouti's duplicitous nature, neglecting the list of over 30 cases of massacre, committed primarily by suicide bombers, paid and directed by Barghouti during the 2nd Intifada. Convicted only in 5 of the 33 for lack of evidence, his image is airbrushed of the infamy he deserves in the least, for the slaughter school children in buses.

    It should not require saying the man is a wily operative, politically savvy and always resourceful with support from his gullible western bleeders. This whole theatre about mistreatment in Israeli gaols is nothing more than a stunt to gain in absentia, the leading slot in PA polls.

    [he should be treated to a week in a Turkish prison https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-10-19/torture-and-abuse-rampant-turkish-prisons-despite-attempts-reform]
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  • @Art
    What Barghouti and his ilk REALLY want is a Final Solution without a single Jew, not a “two-state solution.”

    What self-respecting human being would not feel as Barghouti does?

    Jews bring hate to themselves.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Squatters have no rights.

    [Eagle Eye:] What Barghouti and his ilk REALLY want is a Final Solution without a single Jew, not a “two-state solution.”

    [Art responds:] What self-respecting human being would not feel as Barghouti does?

    Thank you for the honest reply.

    This is what the sober portion of Israel’s body politic is faced with. This is why a two-state “solution” would be suicide, no matter what safeguards are solemnly recited on parchment.

    Deals with Muslims are like shooting stars or Instagram pictures – they sparkle for one bright and shiny moment, then disappear never to be seen again.

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    [Eagle Eye:] What Barghouti and his ilk REALLY want is a Final Solution without a single Jew, not a “two-state solution.”

    [Art responds:] What self-respecting human being would not feel as Barghouti does?

     

    Thank you for the honest reply.

    This is what the sober portion of Israel’s body politic is faced with. This is why a two-state “solution” would be suicide, no matter what safeguards are solemnly recited on parchment.
     
    How does this work – you steal my land – then you say, “there is no recourse to you because you are so mad at me.”

    You say, “after we abused and treated you so badly and because you are so disgruntled, you may never have the normal freedoms and benefits of being part of a nation of your own.”

    When are you Jews going to accept responsibility for the wrong that you have so obviously done?

    Peace --- Art
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  • Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    Please don't write nonsense in response to my posts. You consider your reading of the Torah the last word by which all Jews should live.

    No; both the G'd idea and the various interpretations of the Torah, while they change at the subconscious level, actually need to change at the conscious level. You sabotage yourself when clinging to some minority interpretation you've created for yourself, wholly dispensing with all the reliable scientific knowledge we've gained. I won't have any truck with that.

    Where and when precisely did the Rambam call for the elimination of Palestinians? Can you reference the source?

    No; both the G’d idea and the various interpretations of the Torah, while they change at the subconscious level, actually need to change at the conscious level. You sabotage yourself when clinging to some minority interpretation you’ve created for yourself, wholly dispensing with all the reliable scientific knowledge we’ve gained.

    Oh my – more Jew pretensions of goodness – what a boat load of gobbledygook and intentional disinformation.

    You can see the Torah in action every day – just look at Israel – a nation of squatters and militaristic thugs.

    Apartheid, check-points, torture, preventive detention, summary killings, shooting children who throw rocks, a 1,500,000-open-air prison, and hidden nukes. And those are just the obvious evils.

    Jews live the Torah in Israel – and look at what it produces – shame – shame – shame!

    Peace — Art

    p.s. All this talk of subconscious and conscious and science about the Torah is pseudo-intellectual garbage. The man who writes that nonsense, is a sad little person with an overactive ego.

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  • @Lot

    almost as if they are prepped and organized to regurgitate the official Israel point of view
     
    I just give my opinion. Your readership is too small and too full of basement dwelling nutbars to get official Hasbara trolls. What do you think about those Codoh links they keep posting?

    What do you think about those Codoh links they keep posting?

    Invitation? Opportunity? Enablement? Acquiescence? Exposure?

    Wait! Wait! I know! Sincere commitment to free speech, free thought and inquiry.

    A sacred search for The Truth, wink, wink, winkety wink.

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  • @Eagle Eye

    Israel has three choices: ...
     
    Do you care as much about the countless REAL human rights hell holes on earth? DR Congo? Sudan and South Sudan (still annihilating tribes)? Zimbabwe (economic shambles, millions living in SA)? Equatorial Guinea? North Korea?

    Pray do share your solutions for each of those. Or are those human lives somehow worth less than the Phakestinian drama queens who have a real Israeli Supreme Court looking out for them? But of course not everyone is "into" black men, right?

    Are you telling us Barghouti the chocolate sneak and his family would still be in one piece if they had perpetrated their crimes in Equatorial Guinea? In Katanga?

    Our tax dollars don’t pay for what goes on in the Congo, the Sudans, North Korea and the other places you mention. But we pay for Israel.

    Our reps at the UN do not routinely defend atrocities committed by the governments of those countries. But our folks at the UN defend and excuse Israel’s crimes and violations of international law.

    The countries you mention do not have lobbying operations and friends in the USA which distort US foreign policy for their benefit. The US supports Israel’s outrageous behavior and is thus the target of Islamic terrorists. And we continue to fight wars for Israel, Syria and Iran being the next targets-justifications being ginned up by Israel and its supporters and lobbyists here.

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    Our tax dollars don’t pay for what goes on in the Congo, the Sudans, ...
     
    Actually, our tax dollars (aka development aid) do pay for a good chunk of what goes on in sub-Saharan Africa.

    Our reps at the UN do not routinely defend atrocities committed by the governments of those countries.
     
    That's because the UN gives Third World hellholes a pass on human rights while the savages indulge in endless, Third-World style palavers about "human rights" in one particular country.
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  • Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    Well, I agree with you, perhaps better to have not responded.

    But Begin was considered a terrorist by the Crown, and he did inflict severe damage to British assets. But they were all non-civilian targets. So Pals bring suicide bombers to nightclubs, weddings and shopping malls while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas' military positions. Where people arguing the Pal position run into trouble, is when they demand Israel not enforce laws. It is irrelevant to me whether the Barghoutis consider those laws null and void; yet I require they do so while understanding the consequences, which are well-defined.

    All Arab states have more or less washed their hands clean of the Palestinian question. They kept the 'cause' alive as long as it suited their domestic political agenda.

    BTW, here's the video of Barghouti sneaking chocolate in his prison cell, while on 'hunger strike' which he had previously announced on the NYTimes.

    https://youtu.be/3TknOt_GSkQ

    So Pals bring suicide bombers to nightclubs, weddings and shopping malls while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas’ military positions. Where people arguing the Pal position run into trouble, is when they demand Israel not enforce laws.

    This Jew knows that the pain inflected on the Palestinians is a hundred times what the Palestinians have done to the Jews.

    This man marks himself as a liar and propagandist. He uses his brain to thwart justice and peace. What a sad little man.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Jew law is the law of the tribal jungle – the only outlet the Palestinians have is physical.

    p.s. Palestinians did not have a hand in making those laws.

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    Art how lovely to see you again. Missed your endearing little posts of late. I trust you are drinking salt water exclusively over all other potables?

    No pork and beans either, and certainly not chocolate bars.


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  • @Eagle Eye

    demands for Marwan Barghouti’s release ... based on his relative moderation and desire to see a peaceful transition into a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. He has sometimes been likened to Nelson Mandela
     
    Cue the violins for St. Marwan the noble martyr.

    What Barghouti and his ilk REALLY want is a Final Solution without a single Jew, not a "two-state solution."

    Of course, without Israelis, West-Jordan would relapse into another over-populated post-Ottoman hellhole within 2-3 years. By then, Barghouti will long have relocated to a perch as university lecturer in the U.S. or Europe if he is not first executed by his Arab brethren.

    What Barghouti and his ilk REALLY want is a Final Solution without a single Jew, not a “two-state solution.”

    What self-respecting human being would not feel as Barghouti does?

    Jews bring hate to themselves.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Squatters have no rights.

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    [Eagle Eye:] What Barghouti and his ilk REALLY want is a Final Solution without a single Jew, not a “two-state solution.”

    [Art responds:] What self-respecting human being would not feel as Barghouti does?

     
    Thank you for the honest reply.

    This is what the sober portion of Israel's body politic is faced with. This is why a two-state "solution" would be suicide, no matter what safeguards are solemnly recited on parchment.

    Deals with Muslims are like shooting stars or Instagram pictures - they sparkle for one bright and shiny moment, then disappear never to be seen again.
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  • @Sam Shama
    Well, I agree with you, perhaps better to have not responded.

    But Begin was considered a terrorist by the Crown, and he did inflict severe damage to British assets. But they were all non-civilian targets. So Pals bring suicide bombers to nightclubs, weddings and shopping malls while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas' military positions. Where people arguing the Pal position run into trouble, is when they demand Israel not enforce laws. It is irrelevant to me whether the Barghoutis consider those laws null and void; yet I require they do so while understanding the consequences, which are well-defined.

    All Arab states have more or less washed their hands clean of the Palestinian question. They kept the 'cause' alive as long as it suited their domestic political agenda.

    BTW, here's the video of Barghouti sneaking chocolate in his prison cell, while on 'hunger strike' which he had previously announced on the NYTimes.

    https://youtu.be/3TknOt_GSkQ

    Not true…Begin WAS (and still is) a “terrorist”. In fact, the first modern-day example of today’s terrorism, (violence purposely committed against civilians to achieve a political aim) WAS the jewish bombing of the King David Hotel.
    Let’s not forget the Lavon affair, in which jewish terrorists attacked the U S interests section, and attempted to frame the Egyptians in order to foment a war between Egypt and the USA. This attempted terrorist act failed when one of the jewish bombers blew himself up, exposing the operation as a wholly jewish affair.
    The “biggie” is the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) in which the ship and its lifeboats was attacked by Israel for HOURS, with the full knowledge of President Lyndon Johnson, and his jewish handlers in the U S government. When the brave sailors did not all “die on command” Johnson reluctantly (had to) send help to the stricken ship (after 3 futile requests for help). Of course, the “cover up” was orchestrated by none other than Admiral John S. McCain, who threatened the surviving sailors with courts martial, if they didn’t keep quiet about the attack. The “apple certainly does not fall far from the tree”…
    The ROT that is Israel and the U S government goes way back…

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  • @Sam Shama
    Well, I agree with you, perhaps better to have not responded.

    But Begin was considered a terrorist by the Crown, and he did inflict severe damage to British assets. But they were all non-civilian targets. So Pals bring suicide bombers to nightclubs, weddings and shopping malls while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas' military positions. Where people arguing the Pal position run into trouble, is when they demand Israel not enforce laws. It is irrelevant to me whether the Barghoutis consider those laws null and void; yet I require they do so while understanding the consequences, which are well-defined.

    All Arab states have more or less washed their hands clean of the Palestinian question. They kept the 'cause' alive as long as it suited their domestic political agenda.

    BTW, here's the video of Barghouti sneaking chocolate in his prison cell, while on 'hunger strike' which he had previously announced on the NYTimes.

    https://youtu.be/3TknOt_GSkQ

    while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas’ military positions.

    here’s some of those Palestinian terrorists that are righteously targeted

    Israel must be allowed to defend itself!

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  • @Rurik

    Are we all willing to resign ourselves to the fact that “might is truly right”…
     
    yep Geo, when Sam goes on with that bent that killing weaker people and stealing their land is just human nature, I do wonder if he realizes he's providing moral justification for every questionable act that the Nazis did, including the slaughter of Russians and Poles and persecution and killing of Jews.

    I would have thought that the Nuremberg Tribunals, in which Jewry played a leading role, was supposed to be a turning point.
     
    exactly Geo

    human history up to that point never really had a universal tribunal to codify moral principles and laws to guide us all. We flailed blindly in the mire of ignorance and nature- 'red in tooth and claw'. It had been thus since the beginning of our slog out of the muck, into the inspired truths of our enlightenment. The Rule of Law.

    No more slavery. No more genocide. No more aggressive wars and stealing your weaker neighbors property. International law.

    That's what I was raised to believe. That the human race had agreed to universal principles and International Laws to establish them in the hearts and law books of mankind.

    But it was all bullshit. No sooner had they hung the Nazis, than the Zionists started plotting to butcher Palestinians and steal their land, with the sinister and pernicious scheming and collusion of the Western governments who had just sanctimoniously hanged the Nazis for what they themselves would be doing in earnest in only a short time. It seems the problem with Nazism wasn't the principles of Nazism, but rather it was just the wrong tribe practicing them. Nazism, (taking other people's land by force) was always supposed to be a Jewish thang, ya see? Not for white Christians, who when they do it are EVIL! But rather for Jews, (huh Sam?) who when they do are doing God's work!

    Nobody understood these people better than George Orwell. When the Jews invented and implemented Marxism and Bolshevism and Soviet communism, with all its oppressive and genocidal lust for power run amok, he saw their nature up close and personal. Treachery was their calling card, cruelty their daily bread. And the hypocrisy you describe when you mention the Nuremburg trials, are all part of the doublethink that Orwell talks about. We're all supposed to be OK with 'that genocide is doubleplus bad, but this genocide is doubleplus good', and 2 + 2 can some times = 5

    I think all we're doing here Geo, is pointing out to Sam that 2 + 2 = 4

    “…..when Sam goes on with that bent that killing weaker people and stealing their land is just human nature, I do wonder if he realizes he’s providing moral justification for every questionable act that the Nazis did, including the slaughter of Russians and Poles and persecution and killing of Jews. ”

    Excellent post, Rurik. And note how Sam counters by saying Jews use a different math – just as they’re entitled to an alternate morality. So says the Chosen. [The primitive.]

    But isn’t that what all the race warriors want? Their own math and morality? Preserve the tribe, and to Hell with everyone else! Interesting that Atzmon says the only proper labels for Israel are racist and nationalist.

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    Thanks Robin,

    But isn’t that what all the race warriors want? Their own math and morality? Preserve the tribe, and to Hell with everyone else! Interesting that Atzmon says the only proper labels for Israel are racist and nationalist.
     
    first off 'racist' is a loaded word. It can mean almost anything. I'm sure there are some who consider the Palestinians racists/nationalists for demanding a state of their own.

    'Why do they have to have their own (racial) nation? What's wrong with them simply adapting to a second-class status in the Jew-run state of Israel? (and indeed, the same thing can be said about American whites. What's with their alt-right nationalism? Why don't they just accept their second-class status in the Jewish-run ZUSA? Sure, the Affirmative Action laws mean they're legally less than human, but so what?)

    So that word has to be used carefully. For myself, I have always maintained that all peoples are entitled to self-determination. Palestinians, Jews, Kurds, blacks, browns and yes, even whites.

    a lot of people would call me a racist for saying such a thing.

    'Germans?! How can you say that Germans deserve their own nation?! How *dare* you say that? Are you a Nazi?!'

    and so forth.

    but the problems I see today are that certain people have been slated for the dustbin of history, and that's why there is so much strife. The main people that have been slated for the dustbin of history, of course are the Palestinians. They are not only a tragically wronged people, who've suffered heart wrenching indignities, but they're also humanities canary in the coal mine.

    As go the Palestinians, so too go the rest of us (all Gentiles) eventually, unless we can collectively marshal the wherewithal to waylay these netherworld Zionists.

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  • @Lot
    The Arab lack of honor and morality is one reason they are so terrible at war. Easily conquered and occupied for centuries by the Ottomans, even during their long "sick man of Europe phase." Even as the Ottomans were defeated again and again not just by Russians, but by under-supplied and disorganized Greek and Slav peasant armies. Then the British effortlessly held onto Palestine until, not the Arabs, but the small Jewish minority population rebelled and sent them packing.

    During the first Arab-Israel war, the Arab armies all fled like cowards before an enemy who they outnumbered more than 5 to 1 and started the war surrounding on all sides.

    Today the Turks are able to control their large Kurdish population. But in Syria and Iraq, the Kurds, who are Iranic/Caucasian hybrids, not Arabs, are far better warriors and control areas far larger than their share of population. They also run their zones with more justice and less corruption.

    Be that as it may regarding the Turks and the Arabs, Lot. But it is the Persians, stupid.
    The principled, formidable, fearless and indomitable Persians.

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  • @anarchyst
    The only thing Christianity adopted from Judaism is the Ten Commandments--nothing more. In fact, Christianity is so hated by Jews, they have hatred for Jesus Christ and Mary codified in their Talmud.
    Contrast Jewish hatred with the way Islam treats Jesus Christ and his mother Mary. Both Jesus Christ and Mary are given high regard in the Islamic world, unlike the jewish hatred of both figures. In fact, Mary is specifically mentioned in the Qur'an...
    The Catholic church was co-opted and possibly mortally wounded by interference from jewish and protestant types during the Second Ecumenical Council (Vatican II). Both jews and protestants were given unparallelled access to the inner workings and had major influence in the changes imposed on the world's Catholic population.
    Absolving the jews of Christ's crucifixion and death was one major error. Of course, as is the case presently, jews got the Romans to do their "dirty work" for them--hence Jesus Christ was crucified and murdered with the jews taking full responsibility.
    Banning the celebration of the Tridentine Mass was another error. Only in recent times has the Catholic Church relented and allowed the celebration of this beautiful rite.

    The only thing Christianity adopted from Judaism is the Ten Commandments

    And the 10 C’s are not even Jewish. The Jews adopted/abridged them from the (much longer, 20+?) ancient Egyptian moral code.

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    @Wizard of Oz
    Yes but numbers do matter because a few killings could just be thè evil done by a couple of fanatical nutters while a few every week suggests the government and police are incompetent and don't care. What Idi Amin's numerous atrocities said about Uganda and Ugandans was much modified once he was overthrown.....

    Yes but numbers do matter because a few killings could just be thè evil done by a couple of fanatical nutters while a few every week suggests the government and police are incompetent and don’t care.

    you’re missing the point wiz

    the point is when the government kills people because they happen to belong to the wrong race (ethnicity, religion, tribe, etc..)

    we all know the Nazis persecuted and executed some Jews simply for being Jews

    just as today, there are Jews in Israel that are murdering and persecuting Arabs simply for being Arabs.

    as a matter of principle, this is either wrong, or it’s OK

    and if it’s OK for Jews in Israel to murder Palestinians simply for being Palestinians (whether it’s two or twenty thousand), then by what moral, ethical logic can we condemn the Nazis for doing the exact same thing- that we Americans are forced to fund and facilitate in the holy land today?

    if I condemn Nazism, (in so far as it was a murderous, racial supremacist agenda of land theft and conquest)*, then how can I possibly be quiescent about the exact same thing being done on my dime and with my country’s moral sanction in the holy land?

    the answer is that in principle, Zionism is the exact same thing as Nazism, (at least insofar as Nazism is considered a murderous, genocidal, hate-crazed ideology of racial supremacy and land theft)

    *the degree to which this describes actual Nazism is of course a matter of some debate.

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    No, with respect, it is not I that is missing the point but you; and you sare doing it because you are begging the question.

    Your question begging shows up in the very next paragraph by way of your assuming that the issue concerns only government killing. My point was that a few isolated killings may well be just thst : nothing to do with government beforehand and also telling us little about the society they take place in.
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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Sam, if that was a joke better not to have replied unless it was intentional to concede the point that Barghouti could be a Begin.

    Well, I agree with you, perhaps better to have not responded.

    But Begin was considered a terrorist by the Crown, and he did inflict severe damage to British assets. But they were all non-civilian targets. So Pals bring suicide bombers to nightclubs, weddings and shopping malls while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas’ military positions. Where people arguing the Pal position run into trouble, is when they demand Israel not enforce laws. It is irrelevant to me whether the Barghoutis consider those laws null and void; yet I require they do so while understanding the consequences, which are well-defined.

    All Arab states have more or less washed their hands clean of the Palestinian question. They kept the ’cause’ alive as long as it suited their domestic political agenda.

    BTW, here’s the video of Barghouti sneaking chocolate in his prison cell, while on ‘hunger strike’ which he had previously announced on the NYTimes.

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    while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas’ military positions.
     
    here's some of those Palestinian terrorists that are righteously targeted

    Israel must be allowed to defend itself!

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/17/article-2695793-1FB70E4C00000578-571_964x612.jpg
    , @anarchyst
    Not true...Begin WAS (and still is) a "terrorist". In fact, the first modern-day example of today's terrorism, (violence purposely committed against civilians to achieve a political aim) WAS the jewish bombing of the King David Hotel.
    Let's not forget the Lavon affair, in which jewish terrorists attacked the U S interests section, and attempted to frame the Egyptians in order to foment a war between Egypt and the USA. This attempted terrorist act failed when one of the jewish bombers blew himself up, exposing the operation as a wholly jewish affair.
    The "biggie" is the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) in which the ship and its lifeboats was attacked by Israel for HOURS, with the full knowledge of President Lyndon Johnson, and his jewish handlers in the U S government. When the brave sailors did not all "die on command" Johnson reluctantly (had to) send help to the stricken ship (after 3 futile requests for help). Of course, the "cover up" was orchestrated by none other than Admiral John S. McCain, who threatened the surviving sailors with courts martial, if they didn't keep quiet about the attack. The "apple certainly does not fall far from the tree"...
    The ROT that is Israel and the U S government goes way back...
    , @Art

    So Pals bring suicide bombers to nightclubs, weddings and shopping malls while Israel responds by annihilating Hamas’ military positions. Where people arguing the Pal position run into trouble, is when they demand Israel not enforce laws.
     
    This Jew knows that the pain inflected on the Palestinians is a hundred times what the Palestinians have done to the Jews.

    This man marks himself as a liar and propagandist. He uses his brain to thwart justice and peace. What a sad little man.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Jew law is the law of the tribal jungle - the only outlet the Palestinians have is physical.

    p.s. Palestinians did not have a hand in making those laws.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    I feel so sorry for poor Sam Shama, single-handedly fighting the good fight, defending the Jewish version of truth, justice and the zionist way. With nothing to support and sustain him but his Viennese elitist pedigree, his European education, his PhD, his Wall Street career, his participation in 'reparations payments' and political cover to his tribe, which tribe enjoys the military, financial and political backing of the world's most deluded superpower; his membership in the Chosens, -- in other words, just this side of bare-knuckes, Sam maintains righteously that Barghouti deserves everything he's suffering

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1881768

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1882033

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1882248

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883349

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883479

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883482

    because
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hunger-striking-for-palestinian-rights/#comment-1883575


    CHOCOLATE!

    Guilty as charged!

    Into the oven with you, Barghouti.

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  • @Rurik

    Since the establishment of Israel, how many Palestinians [terrorists and civilians] have died?
     
    I'm speaking of principles Sam. If it turns out that there were less than six million killed, and the actual numbers murdered because they were Jews was far less, would that make the crime any less heinous?

    If a Jew is being killed simply for being a Jew, this is the crime. Not how many. Just as if a Palestinian is being killed simply for being a Palestinians, then who cares if it is twenty thousand or two. The principle is the same, and what we should all be condemning is the mentality that tries to justify such crimes, no?

    when the Nazis (or Palestinian terrorists) kill(ed) Jews for being Jews, it was/is wrong

    when the Jews kill Arabs for being Arabs, it is equally wrong

    no?

    Yes but numbers do matter because a few killings could just be thè evil done by a couple of fanatical nutters while a few every week suggests the government and police are incompetent and don’t care. What Idi Amin’s numerous atrocities said about Uganda and Ugandans was much modified once he was overthrown…..

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    Yes but numbers do matter because a few killings could just be thè evil done by a couple of fanatical nutters while a few every week suggests the government and police are incompetent and don’t care.
     
    you're missing the point wiz

    the point is when the government kills people because they happen to belong to the wrong race (ethnicity, religion, tribe, etc..)

    we all know the Nazis persecuted and executed some Jews simply for being Jews

    just as today, there are Jews in Israel that are murdering and persecuting Arabs simply for being Arabs.

    as a matter of principle, this is either wrong, or it's OK

    and if it's OK for Jews in Israel to murder Palestinians simply for being Palestinians (whether it's two or twenty thousand), then by what moral, ethical logic can we condemn the Nazis for doing the exact same thing- that we Americans are forced to fund and facilitate in the holy land today?

    if I condemn Nazism, (in so far as it was a murderous, racial supremacist agenda of land theft and conquest)*, then how can I possibly be quiescent about the exact same thing being done on my dime and with my country's moral sanction in the holy land?

    the answer is that in principle, Zionism is the exact same thing as Nazism, (at least insofar as Nazism is considered a murderous, genocidal, hate-crazed ideology of racial supremacy and land theft)

    *the degree to which this describes actual Nazism is of course a matter of some debate.
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