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    David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • I just finished the book today–well okay, I have one chapter left.

    There is a bit of legerdemain going on in the author’s summary of his own arguments. As the Derb points out, the word “mixture” is used a lot, but taken out of context, this is deceptive. And the reviews published in the left wing press do deceive in just this manner.

    Reich is talking about mixtures of groups of people. Todays populations are being spoken of as Sets made up of numerous Subsets. Those Subsets themselves are treated as Sets in their own right, which means they have an identity. Having an identity presupposes both a center of gravity and a perimeter. So the “races” today are not really mixtures in the sense that they are made up of a well-stirred jumble of randomly selected individual bits, which is the impression given by left wing reviews. The Subsets which have combined to create today’s Sets had, themselves, a coherent identity in their own right; they too were Sets.

    What Reich ignores is the issue of why humans tend to group themselves into these coherent Sets. His math demonstrates that they do and I understand that he feels no need to go beyond that, but then by the same coin, he should lay off the moralizing and desist from warning us of the need to avoid hasty generalizations. Either he should take it head on or he should leave it alone. That’s the dishonesty in the book.

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  • @Che Guava
    Mixing with Bushmen seems a good explanation for giant bums on so many black women.

    Overeating probably doesn't help (or does, since a giant bum is seen as desirable by many black men).

    I compare giant arses on obese women of European, African, and east Asian descent, my mental term is 'bench arse'. If you were sitting opposite, you could use it as a chair. The Africans are way on top. I am convinced that this is from earlier intermixing with Bushmen women, and similar types that were wiped out by the Bantu invasion from the north.then selection for huge bums.

    With European women, bench arse tends to coincide with the combo of obesity and same-sex attraction. Otherwise rare, even among the obese.

    I am friends with three or so women who are quite obese in my life, so east Asian, but they do not have bums one may see and think of 'possible seating'.

    Of course, actually sitting on a bench arse without permission would cause great offence and trouble,

    Hating to even mention the name, but does anybody *not* think that Kim Kardassian had implants to make a giant bum for Kanye West? I pay little attentinn to such garbage , but it is seeming obvious from photos.

    Kim’s “bench bum”?

    The old phrase was “five and a half axe handles wide”.

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  • Thanks, Derby.
    Of course, you’re spot on. Burn that book! All science is science until new discoveries prove that the previous science was, in fact, pseudoscience, virtu-signaled drivel. The LEFTIST science is erroneously based politics and its filthy, grubbyhand has been putted, exposed for just what it is…Rothschild NWO Poppycock.

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  • @Seamus Day

    Germans feared Jews because they were ‘too smart’.
     
    Name one Jew you can mention in the same sentence as Kepler, Leibniz, Gödel, Frege, Weierstrass, Heisenberg, Riemann, Hilbert, Planck.

    Oh, yeah, Emmy Nother and the intellectual middleman, Albert Einstein, who borrowed from the relativity theory of Poincare and Lorentz and added slight amplifications. But hey, when you control the narrative Einstein is the greatest thinker in history and Maya Angelou is the greatest writer and poet.

    Agree.

    It may be just my interpretation, but I get the impression that physicists themselves express less adulation for Einstein than does the general(ly misled) public.

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  • @iffen

    You bet there is variation in the distribution, but how that interacts with environment or whether said distribution makes humans of this or that more successful is highly dependent on the definition and purpose of success.
     
    Couldn't agree more. It is up to the individual to decide if he prefers subsistence farming over modern technological economies and to make a determination as to which is "better."

    BTW, you keep going on and on about superiority and hierarchy and I haven't mention that at all.

    Trying to link IQ to farming and its ubiquitous environmental randomness (chaos theory here) is like guessing which child will grow to engage in same sex behavior.

    Uhhh no but I have.

    Laughing.

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  • In June 2017 I declared open season on Davide Piffer, inviting criticisms of his findings: The official response to Piffer is: “publish, and then we will give you our comments in reply.” This will take time, but it is the traditional way of doing things. The unofficial response is to encourage more criticism right now,...
  • @res
    Thanks. I downloaded the data for rs4680 from Piffer's source at http://spsmart.cesga.es/ceph.php?dataSet=ceph_stanford
    which allows me to look at COMT Met% for the exact populations Piffer used. Data below.

    I'll probably try to map the Lynn and Afrosapiens IQ estimates into Piffer's populations as I described in my earlier comment (unless you do it first). I am a bit surprised he did not do the Lynn comparison himself in the correlation page I linked.


    It actually weakened the correlation from r = 0.579 Lynn to r = 0.415 Afrosapiens.
     
    This does not surprise me. Although Afrosapiens's technique is interesting, using it for between country IQ comparisons of countries with widely differing levels of development has an obvious issue with the EA-development correlation interfering with the EA-IQ correlation. I think it is much better for within country comparisons (as in a typical EA GWAS) or countries with similar levels of development. Which makes it ironic that Afrosapiens touts his method in the worldwide IQ comparison context but was strangely silent when I brought it up to argue for an EA-IQ link in Nigeria (in a Chanda Chisala thread). That exchange helped make clear just how selective and motivated his reasoning is.

    P.S. Some links to the Nigeria EA-IQ conversation: http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2016734
    http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2012772
    I still can't believe Chanda tried to argue for a zero or even negative correlation between EA and IQ in Nigeria... SMH

    P.P.S. COMT Met% (rs4680 A allele) for Piffer populations below.



    Continent level:

    population N freq_A
    Population Set 1 944 0.389
    AFRICA 102 0.275
    AMERICA 64 0.305
    EUROPE 158 0.494
    MIDDLE EAST 163 0.463
    CENTRAL-SOUTH ASIA 200 0.477
    OCEANIA 28 0.393
    EAST ASIA 229 0.26

    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.

    Subpopulation level:

    population N freq_A
    Population Set 1 944 0.389
    C. African Republic - Biaka Pygmy 22 0.068
    D. R. of Congo - Mbuti Pygmy 13 0.231
    Kenya - Bantu 11 0.364
    Namibia - San 5 0.1
    Nigeria - Yoruba 21 0.405
    Senegal - Mandenka 22 0.364
    South Africa - Bantu 8 0.313
    Brazil - Karitiana 14 0.036
    Brazil - Surui 8 0.313
    Colombia - Piapoco and Curripaco 7 0
    Mexico - Maya 21 0.571
    Mexico - Pima 14 0.321
    France - Basque 24 0.583
    France - French 28 0.482
    Italy - Sardinian 28 0.357
    Italy - Tuscan 8 0.5
    Italy - from Bergamo 13 0.423
    Orkney Islands - Orcadian 15 0.6
    Russia (Caucasus) - Adygei 17 0.412
    Russia - Russian 25 0.6
    Algeria (Mzab) - Mozabite 29 0.431
    Israel (Carmel) - Druze 42 0.464
    Israel (Central) - Palestinian 46 0.533
    Israel (Negev) - Bedouin 46 0.413
    China - Uygur 10 0.45
    Pakistan - Balochi 24 0.542
    Pakistan - Brahui 25 0.42
    Pakistan - Burusho 25 0.48
    Pakistan - Hazara 22 0.523
    Pakistan - Kalash 23 0.565
    Pakistan - Makrani 25 0.46
    Pakistan - Pathan 22 0.432
    Pakistan - Sindhi 24 0.417
    Bougainville - NAN Melanesian 11 0.318
    New Guinea - Papuan 17 0.441
    Cambodia - Cambodian 10 0.35
    China - Dai 10 0.2
    China - Daur 9 0.278
    China - Han 44 0.25
    China - Hezhen 9 0.333
    China - Lahu 8 0.313
    China - Miaozu 10 0.15
    China - Mongola 10 0.25
    China - Naxi 8 0.125
    China - Oroqen 9 0.222
    China - She 10 0.3
    China - Tu 10 0.3
    China - Tujia 10 0.2
    China - Xibo 9 0.167
    China - Yizu 10 0.25
    Japan - Japanese 28 0.304
    Siberia - Yakut 25 0.3

    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.

    res,

    I found another study that could shed some light on what we were discussing, and actually, I believe, proves both of us right to some extent:

    Association study between COMT 158Met and creativity scores in bipolar disorder and healthy controls

    There are many difficulties inherent to systematic studies of creativity, particularly methodological problems concerning the reliability and validity of creativity measures, and disagreements over the definition of creativity. The BWAS is not the only measure of creativity and other measures should be explored before drawing more definitive conclusions. In the present study, it was decided to examine the correlation between scores on a widely used scale for measuring creativity and the presence of functional polymorphism of COMT (rs4680), which likely influences PFC cognition, in a homogeneous sample of university students. Our results are also consistent with those reported in the literature investigating the role of DA and COMT in PFC function and cognition. However, no influence of COMT on IQ was evident, and BWAS and IQ scores were unrelated, further suggesting some degree of specificity in the association of COMT with creativity.

    This study is the first to report findings that suggest the effects of COMT gene polymorphism may not be limited to isolated basal cognitive abilities, but could partially account for greater cognitive abilities related to creativity in healthy controls.

    http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0101-60832014000200029

    Another Half Brick of Creativity

    The paper is slightly unusual, in that it seeks to model creative processes using IQ120 as a cut-off, and so runs contrary to the general findings of the Lubinski and Benbow work that there is no cut-off point, and that the brighter you are the more creative you are in real life.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/another-half-brick-of-creativity/#p_1_9

    Heave Half a Brick at Creativity

    Source: https://www.unz.com/jthompson/heave-half-brick-at-creativity/

    This raises several questions for me, specifically whether creativity is a better measure of intelligence/brightness than IQ is?

    Population COMT Met frequencies might be the best indicator we have to determine creativity, and lower COMT Met frequencies in East Asian populations might also explain the “low-creativity” stereotype often associated with East Asians.

    ‘Why Do Chinese Lack Creativity?’

    It’s not for lack of trying. The Chinese government now pours billions of dollars annually into research and development — by one estimate, its research and development budget may surpass U.S. spending by 2019 — and Chinese President Xi Jinping has emphasized innovation in his speeches. For the past four years, China has filed more patent applications than any other country, although state news agency Xinhua has described the quality of those patents as “poor.”http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/06/23/china-innovation-creativity-research-patents/

    I discussed something similar a while back with Afrosapiens:

    Following is my position on IQ tests. Maybe instead of “IQ test”, it should more accurately be called a “ Formal Education Potential, Quality and Attainment test” or something like that. I still feel the tests are useful and can offer some interesting insights, but they surely are and should not be the be-all and end-all tool of how we organize and structure our nations and societies, IMHO:

    I think what is important to reiterate is that IQ tests seem to measure and predict certain things very accurately, e.g., better cognitive performance/functioning under pressure/stress, educational attainment, income, possibly testosterone and dopamine levels, etc., but they do ironically/paradoxically only seem to test “intelligence” to a limited extent, at least that is my best, current understanding and interpretation of the data I have researched thus far.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2072872

    To conclude:

    What are Piffer et al.’s SNPs actually measuring?

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  • @iffen
    Power is not by definition linked to IQ.

    Correct. Do you know what is linked to IQ? Chances for successful life outcomes in the modern world.

    But power historically outpaces IQ for being successful. So IQ is limited as per the descriptors I referenced. That’s the point, our world demonstrates that power is primary, and IQ contends to demonstrate superiority make the case.

    But this far, the people with high IQ’s claiming success demonstrate a peculiar definition of success as I referenced.

    Furthermore people around the globe with median or even below average IQ’s are very successful, especially if success is not measured by IQ. Problem solving, relational dynamics, work ethic, productivity, are also more important than IQ.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    Hence one od the many categorical debates about the meaning of race.


    Human kind is all of one species -- one race categorize into various racial groups. There are no subspecies of humans -- there are categorical distinctions based on constructs as decided by and among various groups of humans.

    The social playground of the term race in no manner changes a single reality, despite different shapes, sizes, colors and practices -- humans begat humans and will continue to beget humans, regardless of shape, size, practice or skin color.

    Humankind a race of beings who tower babble our way through rhetorical discourse about who we are and on occasion about which one of us is superior.

    Hey ma . . . watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.

    Human kind is all of one species — one race categorize into various racial groups. There are no subspecies of humans — there are categorical distinctions based on constructs as decided by and among various groups of humans.

    There are no subspecies of animals – there are categorical distinctions based on constructs as decided by and among various groups of animals. Polar Bears and Grizzly bears are really the same subspecies, but the Polar bears are bear surpremist and who wish to kill and oppress the Grizzy bears who dindu nothin’

    The social playground of the term race in no manner changes a single reality, despite different shapes, sizes, colors and practices — humans begat humans and will continue to beget humans, regardless of shape, size, practice or skin color.

    So…different groups of humans evolved to have different size, shapes, and skin color but have the same brains. How is this possible?

    Humankind a race of beings who tower babble our way through rhetorical discourse about who we are and on occasion about which one of us is superior.

    HBD is not about superiority, it’s about scientific reality. You could understand that if you won’t so insecure.

    Hey ma . . . watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.

    Sooner this than provide evidence for race denial.

    There are many at Unz who use syntax and diction to sound much more intelligent than they actually are – they all do it better than you.

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    Considering it’s been near-impossible to get their homepage to appear the last few days, I’m certainly glad they got that permission!

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  • Davide Piffer said he would try to comment shortly, though he is tied up with other work at the moment.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    one Shorter perspective of the several I posit:

    version -- mistaking muscle power for IQ is the history of European practice. During WWI, africans trained by the French were ensconced in a small french village. The villagers gradually accepted the Africans as they sought to supplement their incomes by engaging community projects and odd kibs. Initially, it was thought the africans simpletons, they spoke a very basic crude french. But eventually one women discovered that the africans had in fact been taught only rudimentary french. She took it upon herself to offer the africans the french as it was intended as language and lo and behold discovered that the blacks were in fact as sophisticated a people as those in the village and they adopted general french linguistics which they mastered as well or better than many french themselves.

    It was uncovered that the french deliberately denied teaching the language in full so as to maintain a superior status. The US refused to permit black US troops to fight along side their US brothers in arms. They assigned them to the French, who discovers that the blacks were as sophisticated humans as themselves. equal to or superior in bravery. And when they began awarding blacks medals for the same, the US military demanded they refrain from doing so -- l'est they begin seeing themselves as equals.


    It is deeply embarrassing to visit a plantation only discover the unacknowledged technology that blacks brought to building technique (s), purposefulness and architectural design. It is the uncovering of the manipulation on mass scale that whites in power - have engaged to delimit knowledge about the intelligence of others. To ignore that is to miss the dilemma concerning the distribution of IQ.


    Power is not by definition linked to IQ.

    Power is not by definition linked to IQ.

    Correct. Do you know what is linked to IQ? Chances for successful life outcomes in the modern world.

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    But power historically outpaces IQ for being successful. So IQ is limited as per the descriptors I referenced. That's the point, our world demonstrates that power is primary, and IQ contends to demonstrate superiority make the case.

    But this far, the people with high IQ's claiming success demonstrate a peculiar definition of success as I referenced.

    Furthermore people around the globe with median or even below average IQ's are very successful, especially if success is not measured by IQ. Problem solving, relational dynamics, work ethic, productivity, are also more important than IQ.
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  • @EliteCommInc.
    The peoples on the America's survived successfully before Europeans arrived. In fact they have managed to exist successfully in spite of Europeans. The people's on the Continent have survived and son so successfully longer than the Europeans. And they both survived in periods of drought, famine, warfare, flood, earthquake, etc. And have thrived in spite of it all. They managed to develop waterways, plumbing, roads, technology without destroying the environments they thrived in.

    I think what we are beginning to understand about IQ as defined by the European mind is that it is predicated on need and desire (desire from idleness). On neither continent did the people's needs vast arrays of vaccines, though people in Africa had as practice vaccinations before encountering Europeans. On neither continent did the people's engage in killing their environments for sport as to demonstrate superiority. A practice that has thrown nearly every -- well every environment out of balance that Europeans came into contact with.

    Perhaps, the construct of IQ demonstrates the every present insecurity that Europeans are constantly trying to outrun. The incessant desire to demonstrate superiority. And yet history tells us that to be successful, one need not be superior in any manner. Perhaps, the obsession with IQ to demonstrate superiority -- is but the insecurity of a child constantly having to prove itself to the point of exhaustion. One considers the genius of national parks. When considering why they were created, one must consider how such an obvious composition could have been an oversight in developing cities in the first place.

    One considers the circular rhetorical dynamic, Europeans develop solutions to more problems that they themselves create than the environment demands they create to overcome. Perhaps that is why so many of the indigenous populations look at our heritage as one full of reckless energy that we install as intelligence. And no greater example as that of the Europeans willingness to utterly destroy for the sake of acknowledging superior status as opposed to being a success on the planet. Wiping out the buffalo/bison for profit did not end the native american populations.

    Importing immigrants is not going to save the US republic and one would think people with a successful IQ would learn that lesson from obvious hard core realities of history. Yet the people touting superior intelligence are the advocates of destructive social policies and claiming to be superior humans.


    You bet there is variation in the distribution, but how that interacts with environment or whether said distribution makes humans of this or that more successful is highly dependent on the definition and purpose of success.

    The Jellyfish it is said has successfully exists longer than humans --- as have whales, and even monkey's whether they have the ability to successfully survive humans is predicated on their ability to survive are destructive nature of the few who seem incapable of living without destroying to demonstrate their superior quality.

    You bet there is variation in the distribution, but how that interacts with environment or whether said distribution makes humans of this or that more successful is highly dependent on the definition and purpose of success.

    Couldn’t agree more. It is up to the individual to decide if he prefers subsistence farming over modern technological economies and to make a determination as to which is “better.”

    BTW, you keep going on and on about superiority and hierarchy and I haven’t mention that at all.

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    Trying to link IQ to farming and its ubiquitous environmental randomness (chaos theory here) is like guessing which child will grow to engage in same sex behavior.



    Uhhh no but I have.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    "That’s because of regional differences in the human genome. Like any widely-distributed species, ours has developed regional varieties due to local inbreeding under well-understood genetic rules: founder effect, genetic drift, natural selection. The simplest name for these varieties—the one favored by Charles Darwin, the father of modern biology—is “races.”

    But we now know that it was an incorrect term and convolutes the meaning of what it means to be a human being. One can dress the matter up in all kinds intellectual and even valid scientific garb. The reality genetically is that we are all of one race -- human race. The issue is not all that complex.

    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same. All of which has been shaped over millions of years by environmental actors static and nonstatic. That Darwin and others used race to make distinctions of human hierarchy of most to least human is an issue we have inherited and are now wrestling with. It is untruthful to claim that the academic community are race denialists, though I suspect that some are.

    The issue surrounds, the meaning of the variations and for whites in particular, the suggestion that they are not in fact at the top of the pyramid via genetics. And by challenging that standard exported throughout the world and enforced with great vigor -- a lot of white people are just scared. And many in some manner of panic are racing, no pun intended, though I suppose it works, to solidify their superior status in science.

    When the issue of race is discussed, in modernity, we are not talking about genetics, we are generally discussion its social construction of meaning. And while it is convenient to hoola hoop the debate into one of science, it is a slight of hand gimmick, for the purpose of blurring the matters of question by ignoring the bridging.

    I won't ignore the bridging.

    ________________________________

    Your point . . . .

    "As we all know, a peculiar orthodoxy about human nature has come up among the Liberal Arts and Grievance Studies (LAGS) types who staff academic administrations, media, and government bureaucracies, including those that approve money grants to research scientists. A key tenet of this orthodoxy: There Is No Such Thing As Race. According to this tenet, race is a “social construct,” a sort of collective optical illusion.


    There is certainly a strange thing happening in and among academics. But the nexus of that discussion has nothing to do with race being real or not. Continuing to make that claim is to abuse the issue(s). The second aspect of the argument concerning "race" as a social construct, is not one of optical illusion save that the social implications of racial superiority has been premised on some faulty science and reasoning that on test don't play out for a myriad of reasons.


    But in all my life I have never met anyone who claimed genetics didn't matter to human existence in the real.

    Excellent points – thanks!

    Peace.

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  • @Seamus Padraig

    The reality genetically is that we are all of one race — human race.
     
    Well, actually, no. Mankind (homo sapiens) is not a race, but a species. A race is a subspecies.

    A breed, if you will.

    Peace.

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  • @Henry's Cat
    What brand of anti-Darwinist are you?

    Read him before, Creationist

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  • In June 2017 I declared open season on Davide Piffer, inviting criticisms of his findings: The official response to Piffer is: “publish, and then we will give you our comments in reply.” This will take time, but it is the traditional way of doing things. The unofficial response is to encourage more criticism right now,...
  • @Factorize
    res, one thing that is confusing me is that the polygenic result proposed is a falsifiable assertion. I would like to go at this more from a gedanken point of view, though a brute force empiricism would also give an unequivocal answer.

    This reduces to: Does the polygenic approach proposed replicate in independent preferably by independent researchers? I think that this is an important question to have clarified given the not entirely inconsequential implications if suggested results were indeed found to be accurate.

    Does the polygenic approach proposed replicate in independent preferably by independent researchers?

    Piffer has computed PGS from multiple studies (including different researchers) and they seem to replicate quite well (though I am curious about the apparent exception–lower correlation–noted at the end of comment 14). Also see his Monte Carlo simulation technique discussed in other posts which quantifies how unlikely it is that a random set of SNPs would give a similar result.

    His height work provides another form of replication: https://f1000research.com/articles/4-15/v3

    P.S. While looking at something else today I ran across a file which has forward/reverse (relative to dbSnp) strand data for the SNP chip used in the UKBB (1.1GB uncompressed csv, ouch!): http://www.ukbiobank.ac.uk/scientists-3/uk-biobank-axiom-array/
    It also has reference/alternate allele information (not sure if that is what the researchers typically base that on). That might be helpful for your PGS work.

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  • @gustafus21
    Blacks also have an IQ 20-30 points below whites - causing young males to challenge the male dominance hierarchy as apex predators.

    FEED THE CHILDREN? -- NOT ON YOUR LIFE - then they breed like roaches and burst their borders.

    WHAT HAVE WE DONE? -- Sorry, but it is kill or be killed time, and not just in Europe. We could have left the Africans to perish in their own excrement... but CHRISTIANS... those idiots... kept proffering more cheeks.

    I root for Ebola. AIDS... anything to rid us of this plague

    Blacks also have an IQ 20-30 points below whites – causing young males to challenge the male dominance hierarchy as apex predators.

    Pray tell, what “study” confirmed this? Seems to me I’m black and I’m smarter than you.

    I root for Ebola. AIDS… anything to rid us of this plague

    Speaking of plagues, your ancestors were nearly wiped out because they weren’t smart enough to figure out that filth is deadly.

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  • @Beckow
    A big part of creating civilisation was realising that 'fast running and thug-like fighting' are not all that useful in a war. In Africa that didn't happen, so they were helpless. War is not a sport.

    This from people in the US who have thug lifed their way across the planet who are incapable of adhering to agreements they draft and force upon others. and are now mugging the middle east again . . .

    Next some genius will be spouting that the planet is over populated. And what the US needs is more immigrants to get rid of those .3% of violent blacks who want to take away white guns so when the apocalypse occurs — they can “get white people.”

    Good grief . . . superior analysis from IQ to superior morality has no end.

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  • @Seamus Padraig

    The reality genetically is that we are all of one race — human race.
     
    Well, actually, no. Mankind (homo sapiens) is not a race, but a species. A race is a subspecies.

    Hence one od the many categorical debates about the meaning of race.

    Human kind is all of one species — one race categorize into various racial groups. There are no subspecies of humans — there are categorical distinctions based on constructs as decided by and among various groups of humans.

    The social playground of the term race in no manner changes a single reality, despite different shapes, sizes, colors and practices — humans begat humans and will continue to beget humans, regardless of shape, size, practice or skin color.

    Humankind a race of beings who tower babble our way through rhetorical discourse about who we are and on occasion about which one of us is superior.

    Hey ma . . . watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.

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    Human kind is all of one species — one race categorize into various racial groups. There are no subspecies of humans — there are categorical distinctions based on constructs as decided by and among various groups of humans.

    There are no subspecies of animals - there are categorical distinctions based on constructs as decided by and among various groups of animals. Polar Bears and Grizzly bears are really the same subspecies, but the Polar bears are bear surpremist and who wish to kill and oppress the Grizzy bears who dindu nothin'

    The social playground of the term race in no manner changes a single reality, despite different shapes, sizes, colors and practices — humans begat humans and will continue to beget humans, regardless of shape, size, practice or skin color.

    So...different groups of humans evolved to have different size, shapes, and skin color but have the same brains. How is this possible?

    Humankind a race of beings who tower babble our way through rhetorical discourse about who we are and on occasion about which one of us is superior.

    HBD is not about superiority, it's about scientific reality. You could understand that if you won't so insecure.

    Hey ma . . . watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.

    Sooner this than provide evidence for race denial.

    There are many at Unz who use syntax and diction to sound much more intelligent than they actually are - they all do it better than you.
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  • @another fred
    What are the odds of there being group differences in this gene and its expression?

    "Ramped up fight-or-flight response points to history of warfare for humans and chimps"

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180419141517.htm

    I will reading the article you pnsted tomorrow, but my one USA friend as of now is Puerto Rican and Domican mixed, Bronx-born, cannot help but notice that his waK is like that of a chimp, it is strange.

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  • What are the odds of there being group differences in this gene and its expression?

    Ramped up fight-or-flight response points to history of warfare for humans and chimps

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180419141517.htm

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    I will reading the article you pnsted tomorrow, but my one USA friend as of now is Puerto Rican and Domican mixed, Bronx-born, cannot help but notice that his waK is like that of a chimp, it is strange.
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  • In June 2017 I declared open season on Davide Piffer, inviting criticisms of his findings: The official response to Piffer is: “publish, and then we will give you our comments in reply.” This will take time, but it is the traditional way of doing things. The unofficial response is to encourage more criticism right now,...
  • res, one thing that is confusing me is that the polygenic result proposed is a falsifiable assertion. I would like to go at this more from a gedanken point of view, though a brute force empiricism would also give an unequivocal answer.

    This reduces to: Does the polygenic approach proposed replicate in independent preferably by independent researchers? I think that this is an important question to have clarified given the not entirely inconsequential implications if suggested results were indeed found to be accurate.

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    Does the polygenic approach proposed replicate in independent preferably by independent researchers?
     
    Piffer has computed PGS from multiple studies (including different researchers) and they seem to replicate quite well (though I am curious about the apparent exception--lower correlation--noted at the end of comment 14). Also see his Monte Carlo simulation technique discussed in other posts which quantifies how unlikely it is that a random set of SNPs would give a similar result.

    His height work provides another form of replication: https://f1000research.com/articles/4-15/v3

    P.S. While looking at something else today I ran across a file which has forward/reverse (relative to dbSnp) strand data for the SNP chip used in the UKBB (1.1GB uncompressed csv, ouch!): www.ukbiobank.ac.uk/scientists-3/uk-biobank-axiom-array/
    It also has reference/alternate allele information (not sure if that is what the researchers typically base that on). That might be helpful for your PGS work.
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  • David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • Essentially, Mr Derbyshire is criticizing Professor Reich for doing what he himself and his VDare friends do all the time: twisting science to prop up a pre-conceived political ideology. The modern European ethnic groups didn’t just drop ready-made out of the sky! Europe was populated by successive waves of invaders from central Asia who did indeed slaughter the men and marry the women, thereby creating a new gene pool and giving us the rich diversity of ethnic identities we know in Europe today. That’s established science. Mr Derbyshire then resorts to a rather silly propaganda trick: if you can’t refute your opponent’s argument, attribute to him an argument he didn’t make but which you can refute, refute that and claim you’ve refuted your opponent. Thus: “Does Prof. Reich really expect males from that second group to “embrace” their annihilation?” But earlier he quotes the professor: “Mixture is fundamental to who we are, and we need to embrace it, not deny that it occurred.” “We”. “We” obviously means modern white Americans and the professor’s argument is that they need to accept the scientific reality of their own European ancestry in place of the weird myths and distortions about Europe common in the US (and which we Europeans find amusing, at least until Americans try to ram them down our throats as historical and scientific “fact”!). I suspect that Mr Derbyshire’s “gripe” with Professor Reich is that he has presented a scientific view of genetics, thereby demolishing the rather comical pseudo-genetics which the VDare people use to prop up their political ideology.

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  • Ynu are making a good point, but overpopulation is the biggest problem of all, the populations being destroyed, except in east and *parts of* south-east Asia (Malaysia of now, for example, is a slow-motion horror story of Islamism, as, in technically different ways, is Indonesia). The Burmese are correct in rejecting the Bengali invaders who call themselves ‘Rohingya’. Sure, it is unjust in the few cases where they were there for many generations.

    At the start of the great east Asian war, Burma (or Myanmar) had much the same state in the British empire and simhlar constition to as Australia or Canada, so largely independent. The reason the majority of Burmese nationalists took the side of Japan was the British having placed Indians at the top of the courts and bureaucracy there. NaturalJy, the Burmese did not like that.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    "That’s because of regional differences in the human genome. Like any widely-distributed species, ours has developed regional varieties due to local inbreeding under well-understood genetic rules: founder effect, genetic drift, natural selection. The simplest name for these varieties—the one favored by Charles Darwin, the father of modern biology—is “races.”

    But we now know that it was an incorrect term and convolutes the meaning of what it means to be a human being. One can dress the matter up in all kinds intellectual and even valid scientific garb. The reality genetically is that we are all of one race -- human race. The issue is not all that complex.

    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same. All of which has been shaped over millions of years by environmental actors static and nonstatic. That Darwin and others used race to make distinctions of human hierarchy of most to least human is an issue we have inherited and are now wrestling with. It is untruthful to claim that the academic community are race denialists, though I suspect that some are.

    The issue surrounds, the meaning of the variations and for whites in particular, the suggestion that they are not in fact at the top of the pyramid via genetics. And by challenging that standard exported throughout the world and enforced with great vigor -- a lot of white people are just scared. And many in some manner of panic are racing, no pun intended, though I suppose it works, to solidify their superior status in science.

    When the issue of race is discussed, in modernity, we are not talking about genetics, we are generally discussion its social construction of meaning. And while it is convenient to hoola hoop the debate into one of science, it is a slight of hand gimmick, for the purpose of blurring the matters of question by ignoring the bridging.

    I won't ignore the bridging.

    ________________________________

    Your point . . . .

    "As we all know, a peculiar orthodoxy about human nature has come up among the Liberal Arts and Grievance Studies (LAGS) types who staff academic administrations, media, and government bureaucracies, including those that approve money grants to research scientists. A key tenet of this orthodoxy: There Is No Such Thing As Race. According to this tenet, race is a “social construct,” a sort of collective optical illusion.


    There is certainly a strange thing happening in and among academics. But the nexus of that discussion has nothing to do with race being real or not. Continuing to make that claim is to abuse the issue(s). The second aspect of the argument concerning "race" as a social construct, is not one of optical illusion save that the social implications of racial superiority has been premised on some faulty science and reasoning that on test don't play out for a myriad of reasons.


    But in all my life I have never met anyone who claimed genetics didn't matter to human existence in the real.

    The reality genetically is that we are all of one race — human race.

    Well, actually, no. Mankind (homo sapiens) is not a race, but a species. A race is a subspecies.

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    Hence one od the many categorical debates about the meaning of race.


    Human kind is all of one species -- one race categorize into various racial groups. There are no subspecies of humans -- there are categorical distinctions based on constructs as decided by and among various groups of humans.

    The social playground of the term race in no manner changes a single reality, despite different shapes, sizes, colors and practices -- humans begat humans and will continue to beget humans, regardless of shape, size, practice or skin color.

    Humankind a race of beings who tower babble our way through rhetorical discourse about who we are and on occasion about which one of us is superior.

    Hey ma . . . watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.
    , @Talha
    A breed, if you will.

    Peace.
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  • @iffen
    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same.

    And some of those variations, many of which are unevenly distributed among the various "populations," advantage a higher or lower proportion of a given population with regard to circumstances and environments. Certain "populations" have a higher mean with regard to the variation that leads to the best chances of "success" in a given pursuit. This being reality, you can demand quotas for white sprinters or just accept the results of the race, pun intended.

    that variations deposited in varying degrees withing the human species among various groups of humans

    Saying

    “duh”

    seemed a bit trite.

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  • @Intelligent Dasein
    It will eventually come to light that David Reich's dry and lifeless style, as well as his extensive collaboration with mathematicians, both result from the fact that his genetic research is actually explaining nothing. He must use brutal statistical falsification in order to generate any results at all, and then he needs to write in an obscurantist manner in order to conceal the fact that he has no coherent story to tell.

    "Genetics" is not really a specific term, as it applies broadly to the study of origins; and not just the origins of living things, but the origins of anything. There have always been practical theories of genetics in the living realm, as offspring are clearly derived somehow from their progenerators and this is significant for determining what they will be. But today's obsession with biomolecular genetics and information is simply junk science, to put it kindly. The idea that there is some single, simple, unique causal factor responsible for transmitting information from one generation to the next, is a mythology that was fully developed in the absence of any empirical support. When DNA was discovered, it was immediately cast into this role and enthroned there ever since. The fact that DNA cannot perform this function is responsible for the increasingly arcane hypotheses needed to patch evolutionary theory together.

    In 50 years' time, no serious person will still be a Darwinist and "genetics" will have perished out of frustration and boredom.

    What brand of anti-Darwinist are you?

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    Read him before, Creationist
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  • @Currahee
    "the black fact of superiority in running and fighting"

    African armies may be musical, don't know; but they can't fight.

    A big part of creating civilisation was realising that ‘fast running and thug-like fighting’ are not all that useful in a war. In Africa that didn’t happen, so they were helpless. War is not a sport.

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    This from people in the US who have thug lifed their way across the planet who are incapable of adhering to agreements they draft and force upon others. and are now mugging the middle east again . . .

    Next some genius will be spouting that the planet is over populated. And what the US needs is more immigrants to get rid of those .3% of violent blacks who want to take away white guns so when the apocalypse occurs -- they can "get white people."

    Good grief . . . superior analysis from IQ to superior morality has no end.

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    not very short –

    excuse me.

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  • @iffen
    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same.

    And some of those variations, many of which are unevenly distributed among the various "populations," advantage a higher or lower proportion of a given population with regard to circumstances and environments. Certain "populations" have a higher mean with regard to the variation that leads to the best chances of "success" in a given pursuit. This being reality, you can demand quotas for white sprinters or just accept the results of the race, pun intended.

    one Shorter perspective of the several I posit:

    version — mistaking muscle power for IQ is the history of European practice. During WWI, africans trained by the French were ensconced in a small french village. The villagers gradually accepted the Africans as they sought to supplement their incomes by engaging community projects and odd kibs. Initially, it was thought the africans simpletons, they spoke a very basic crude french. But eventually one women discovered that the africans had in fact been taught only rudimentary french. She took it upon herself to offer the africans the french as it was intended as language and lo and behold discovered that the blacks were in fact as sophisticated a people as those in the village and they adopted general french linguistics which they mastered as well or better than many french themselves.

    It was uncovered that the french deliberately denied teaching the language in full so as to maintain a superior status. The US refused to permit black US troops to fight along side their US brothers in arms. They assigned them to the French, who discovers that the blacks were as sophisticated humans as themselves. equal to or superior in bravery. And when they began awarding blacks medals for the same, the US military demanded they refrain from doing so — l’est they begin seeing themselves as equals.

    It is deeply embarrassing to visit a plantation only discover the unacknowledged technology that blacks brought to building technique (s), purposefulness and architectural design. It is the uncovering of the manipulation on mass scale that whites in power – have engaged to delimit knowledge about the intelligence of others. To ignore that is to miss the dilemma concerning the distribution of IQ.

    Power is not by definition linked to IQ.

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    Power is not by definition linked to IQ.

    Correct. Do you know what is linked to IQ? Chances for successful life outcomes in the modern world.
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  • @anarchyst
    There is another aspect of genetics and DNA coding that has not been explored. Today's scientists involved in genetics and DNA believe that much of our DNA merely consists of "place holders" and is of little importance, being considered "junk DNA". An interesting premise on DNA was presented by Dr. Michael Tellinger in his book "Slave Species of God". His premise is that this "junk DNA" is not "junk", at all, but has been purposely deactivated by extraterrestrials or some other "supreme being". Whether one believes in the existence of extraterrestrials or a supreme being, the premise that much of our DNA has been "deactivated" in order to control us is an interesting premise. It is possible that when humanity was "created", all of our DNA was active, resulting in the ability to communicate without limits--telepathy, etc. with the possession of extensive knowledge. If one takes the Biblical story of Adam and Eve being banished from the "Garden of Eden", it is possible that our "creator" purposely deactivated certain portions of our DNA in order to control us. The "Garden of Eden" story was written for the ages; for those who would not understand scientific principles of DNA and genetics.
    Attempting to apply scientific principles to Biblical stories, it could be argued that "Noah's Ark" was actually a DNA repository.
    Dr. Tellinger's premise is that our dormant, inactive DNA is slowly reactivating itself; hence, the continuing scientific advances in humanity.

    If what you propose is actually true, then human advancement is on the verge of massive acceleration, as the age of CRISPR, and other, yet more powerful genetic editing and engineering tools is now upon us.

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  • Mixing with Bushmen seems a good explanation for giant bums on so many black women.

    Overeating probably doesn’t help (or does, since a giant bum is seen as desirable by many black men).

    I compare giant arses on obese women of European, African, and east Asian descent, my mental term is ‘bench arse’. If you were sitting opposite, you could use it as a chair. The Africans are way on top. I am convinced that this is from earlier intermixing with Bushmen women, and similar types that were wiped out by the Bantu invasion from the north.then selection for huge bums.

    With European women, bench arse tends to coincide with the combo of obesity and same-sex attraction. Otherwise rare, even among the obese.

    I am friends with three or so women who are quite obese in my life, so east Asian, but they do not have bums one may see and think of ‘possible seating’.

    Of course, actually sitting on a bench arse without permission would cause great offence and trouble,

    Hating to even mention the name, but does anybody *not* think that Kim Kardassian had implants to make a giant bum for Kanye West? I pay little attentinn to such garbage , but it is seeming obvious from photos.

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    Kim's "bench bum"?

    The old phrase was "five and a half axe handles wide".
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  • @iffen
    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same.

    And some of those variations, many of which are unevenly distributed among the various "populations," advantage a higher or lower proportion of a given population with regard to circumstances and environments. Certain "populations" have a higher mean with regard to the variation that leads to the best chances of "success" in a given pursuit. This being reality, you can demand quotas for white sprinters or just accept the results of the race, pun intended.

    The peoples on the America’s survived successfully before Europeans arrived. In fact they have managed to exist successfully in spite of Europeans. The people’s on the Continent have survived and son so successfully longer than the Europeans. And they both survived in periods of drought, famine, warfare, flood, earthquake, etc. And have thrived in spite of it all. They managed to develop waterways, plumbing, roads, technology without destroying the environments they thrived in.

    I think what we are beginning to understand about IQ as defined by the European mind is that it is predicated on need and desire (desire from idleness). On neither continent did the people’s needs vast arrays of vaccines, though people in Africa had as practice vaccinations before encountering Europeans. On neither continent did the people’s engage in killing their environments for sport as to demonstrate superiority. A practice that has thrown nearly every — well every environment out of balance that Europeans came into contact with.

    Perhaps, the construct of IQ demonstrates the every present insecurity that Europeans are constantly trying to outrun. The incessant desire to demonstrate superiority. And yet history tells us that to be successful, one need not be superior in any manner. Perhaps, the obsession with IQ to demonstrate superiority — is but the insecurity of a child constantly having to prove itself to the point of exhaustion. One considers the genius of national parks. When considering why they were created, one must consider how such an obvious composition could have been an oversight in developing cities in the first place.

    One considers the circular rhetorical dynamic, Europeans develop solutions to more problems that they themselves create than the environment demands they create to overcome. Perhaps that is why so many of the indigenous populations look at our heritage as one full of reckless energy that we install as intelligence. And no greater example as that of the Europeans willingness to utterly destroy for the sake of acknowledging superior status as opposed to being a success on the planet. Wiping out the buffalo/bison for profit did not end the native american populations.

    Importing immigrants is not going to save the US republic and one would think people with a successful IQ would learn that lesson from obvious hard core realities of history. Yet the people touting superior intelligence are the advocates of destructive social policies and claiming to be superior humans.

    You bet there is variation in the distribution, but how that interacts with environment or whether said distribution makes humans of this or that more successful is highly dependent on the definition and purpose of success.

    The Jellyfish it is said has successfully exists longer than humans — as have whales, and even monkey’s whether they have the ability to successfully survive humans is predicated on their ability to survive are destructive nature of the few who seem incapable of living without destroying to demonstrate their superior quality.

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    You bet there is variation in the distribution, but how that interacts with environment or whether said distribution makes humans of this or that more successful is highly dependent on the definition and purpose of success.
     
    Couldn't agree more. It is up to the individual to decide if he prefers subsistence farming over modern technological economies and to make a determination as to which is "better."

    BTW, you keep going on and on about superiority and hierarchy and I haven't mention that at all.

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  • @Anon
    Why is the book like this?

    Same old story. Galileo knew. Official Geo-centrism vs Empirical Helio-centrism.

    When it comes to evolutionary science, there is bio-centrism under attack from ideo-centrism.

    Reich is torn. He grew up under the Shoah Narrative that has become like a faith. It said German 'Aryans' believed in racial differences and waged wars and committed genocide. But good guys won and established that All Peoples are Equal. This is the faith of the West, as powerful as Geo-centrism in Galileo's time. It was especially useful to Jews who were targeted by 'Aryans'.

    And yet it was always an uneasy myth. After all, Germans feared Jews because they were 'too smart'. Also, black athletes who demolished the 'aryan' myth of superiority established the black fact of superiority in running and fighting.

    “the black fact of superiority in running and fighting”

    African armies may be musical, don’t know; but they can’t fight.

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    A big part of creating civilisation was realising that 'fast running and thug-like fighting' are not all that useful in a war. In Africa that didn't happen, so they were helpless. War is not a sport.
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  • It will eventually come to light that David Reich’s dry and lifeless style, as well as his extensive collaboration with mathematicians, both result from the fact that his genetic research is actually explaining nothing. He must use brutal statistical falsification in order to generate any results at all, and then he needs to write in an obscurantist manner in order to conceal the fact that he has no coherent story to tell.

    “Genetics” is not really a specific term, as it applies broadly to the study of origins; and not just the origins of living things, but the origins of anything. There have always been practical theories of genetics in the living realm, as offspring are clearly derived somehow from their progenerators and this is significant for determining what they will be. But today’s obsession with biomolecular genetics and information is simply junk science, to put it kindly. The idea that there is some single, simple, unique causal factor responsible for transmitting information from one generation to the next, is a mythology that was fully developed in the absence of any empirical support. When DNA was discovered, it was immediately cast into this role and enthroned there ever since. The fact that DNA cannot perform this function is responsible for the increasingly arcane hypotheses needed to patch evolutionary theory together.

    In 50 years’ time, no serious person will still be a Darwinist and “genetics” will have perished out of frustration and boredom.

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    What brand of anti-Darwinist are you?
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  • @Anon
    Why is the book like this?

    Same old story. Galileo knew. Official Geo-centrism vs Empirical Helio-centrism.

    When it comes to evolutionary science, there is bio-centrism under attack from ideo-centrism.

    Reich is torn. He grew up under the Shoah Narrative that has become like a faith. It said German 'Aryans' believed in racial differences and waged wars and committed genocide. But good guys won and established that All Peoples are Equal. This is the faith of the West, as powerful as Geo-centrism in Galileo's time. It was especially useful to Jews who were targeted by 'Aryans'.

    And yet it was always an uneasy myth. After all, Germans feared Jews because they were 'too smart'. Also, black athletes who demolished the 'aryan' myth of superiority established the black fact of superiority in running and fighting.

    Germans feared Jews because they were ‘too smart’.

    Name one Jew you can mention in the same sentence as Kepler, Leibniz, Gödel, Frege, Weierstrass, Heisenberg, Riemann, Hilbert, Planck.

    Oh, yeah, Emmy Nother and the intellectual middleman, Albert Einstein, who borrowed from the relativity theory of Poincare and Lorentz and added slight amplifications. But hey, when you control the narrative Einstein is the greatest thinker in history and Maya Angelou is the greatest writer and poet.

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    Agree.

    It may be just my interpretation, but I get the impression that physicists themselves express less adulation for Einstein than does the general(ly misled) public.
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  • @nickels
    I think it is a unique and important time in the history of science. Science has exposed itself as mystical Neo-Platonism.
    Most of what calls itself science is actually fable generation for problems that are massively undetermined. And the particular fable that wins out is the one that justifies the ruling class's ideology. Every time.
    Just remember this rule of thumb: if the scientist can't build it, drive it or fly it, it isn't science-it's propaganda.
    It has alway been so. In fact, many working assumptions of Western, post Enlightenment culture are nothing more than Neo-Platonic mythology.

    Scientific arrogance is rampant in today’s society. If an ordinary person makes an observation, it is considered a “myth” or a “fable” until it is personally observed by a “scientist”. This arrogance propels what is considered science into the realm of being a “religion”, not unlike “holocaustianity ™” which itself, has so many holes in it, outright fabrications, lies,, and outright impossibilities, but is still taken as total truth, subjecting those who dare to go against the prevailing orthodoxy to prosecution and incarceration in many countries for merely seeking out the truth.
    Science is no different…
    Mariners from ancient times made their oceanic observations of “sea monsters”, giant eels, squids and other large ocean-dwelling creatures and have always been discredited by “scientists”. It turns out that these giant sea creatures DO exist, despite the deniability of so-called “scientists”.
    Another observation by mariners is the “super wave”, which has been responsible for the destruction of many ocean-going vessels which were also discredited by “scientists”, just because they did not personally observe them.. These “super waves” have been observed from orbiting satellites.
    It turns out that these old-time mariners were not so “stupid” and “backwards” as scientists claim.
    Another example of scientific arrogance involves weather phenomenon, particularly tornadoes. There have been ordinary people who have observed tornadoes in action, but were informed that they were merely “straight line winds” despite funnel clouds being observed.
    Let’s not forget “funding” especially from government agencies that are looking to promote their agenda, the truth be damned. “Climate change” is but one prime example of scientific arrogance, misconduct, and malpractice taking place. “Climate” is ALWAYS changing and is actually influenced by solar factors to a much greater degree than previously believed. There are no SUVs on Mars or Venus, (one of the climate change crowd’s blame for “global warming”) yet solar variability has been observed on other celestial bodies. The East Anglia emails are the “smoking gun” in the “climate change” fraud. FOLLOW THE MONEY…

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  • There is another aspect of genetics and DNA coding that has not been explored. Today’s scientists involved in genetics and DNA believe that much of our DNA merely consists of “place holders” and is of little importance, being considered “junk DNA”. An interesting premise on DNA was presented by Dr. Michael Tellinger in his book “Slave Species of God”. His premise is that this “junk DNA” is not “junk”, at all, but has been purposely deactivated by extraterrestrials or some other “supreme being”. Whether one believes in the existence of extraterrestrials or a supreme being, the premise that much of our DNA has been “deactivated” in order to control us is an interesting premise. It is possible that when humanity was “created”, all of our DNA was active, resulting in the ability to communicate without limits–telepathy, etc. with the possession of extensive knowledge. If one takes the Biblical story of Adam and Eve being banished from the “Garden of Eden”, it is possible that our “creator” purposely deactivated certain portions of our DNA in order to control us. The “Garden of Eden” story was written for the ages; for those who would not understand scientific principles of DNA and genetics.
    Attempting to apply scientific principles to Biblical stories, it could be argued that “Noah’s Ark” was actually a DNA repository.
    Dr. Tellinger’s premise is that our dormant, inactive DNA is slowly reactivating itself; hence, the continuing scientific advances in humanity.

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    If what you propose is actually true, then human advancement is on the verge of massive acceleration, as the age of CRISPR, and other, yet more powerful genetic editing and engineering tools is now upon us.
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  • I think it is a unique and important time in the history of science. Science has exposed itself as mystical Neo-Platonism.
    Most of what calls itself science is actually fable generation for problems that are massively undetermined. And the particular fable that wins out is the one that justifies the ruling class’s ideology. Every time.
    Just remember this rule of thumb: if the scientist can’t build it, drive it or fly it, it isn’t science-it’s propaganda.
    It has alway been so. In fact, many working assumptions of Western, post Enlightenment culture are nothing more than Neo-Platonic mythology.

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    • Replies: @anarchyst
    Scientific arrogance is rampant in today's society. If an ordinary person makes an observation, it is considered a "myth" or a "fable" until it is personally observed by a "scientist". This arrogance propels what is considered science into the realm of being a "religion", not unlike "holocaustianity ™" which itself, has so many holes in it, outright fabrications, lies,, and outright impossibilities, but is still taken as total truth, subjecting those who dare to go against the prevailing orthodoxy to prosecution and incarceration in many countries for merely seeking out the truth.
    Science is no different...
    Mariners from ancient times made their oceanic observations of "sea monsters", giant eels, squids and other large ocean-dwelling creatures and have always been discredited by "scientists". It turns out that these giant sea creatures DO exist, despite the deniability of so-called "scientists".
    Another observation by mariners is the "super wave", which has been responsible for the destruction of many ocean-going vessels which were also discredited by "scientists", just because they did not personally observe them.. These "super waves" have been observed from orbiting satellites.
    It turns out that these old-time mariners were not so "stupid" and "backwards" as scientists claim.
    Another example of scientific arrogance involves weather phenomenon, particularly tornadoes. There have been ordinary people who have observed tornadoes in action, but were informed that they were merely "straight line winds" despite funnel clouds being observed.
    Let's not forget "funding" especially from government agencies that are looking to promote their agenda, the truth be damned. "Climate change" is but one prime example of scientific arrogance, misconduct, and malpractice taking place. "Climate" is ALWAYS changing and is actually influenced by solar factors to a much greater degree than previously believed. There are no SUVs on Mars or Venus, (one of the climate change crowd's blame for "global warming") yet solar variability has been observed on other celestial bodies. The East Anglia emails are the "smoking gun" in the "climate change" fraud. FOLLOW THE MONEY...
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  • @Anon
    Does Prof. Reich really expect males from that second group to “embrace” their annihilation?

    Yeah, Bruce Lee kicked Derb's ass but he still ran off with a Chinese girl.

    That is his granddaughter you are talking about… shame on you for suggesting it is something other than what it is. Derb can do no wrong, morally or otherwise!

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  • In June 2017 I declared open season on Davide Piffer, inviting criticisms of his findings: The official response to Piffer is: “publish, and then we will give you our comments in reply.” This will take time, but it is the traditional way of doing things. The unofficial response is to encourage more criticism right now,...
  • I don’t understand why Africa [all africans*] was higher than America [amerindians].

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  • David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • @EliteCommInc.
    "That’s because of regional differences in the human genome. Like any widely-distributed species, ours has developed regional varieties due to local inbreeding under well-understood genetic rules: founder effect, genetic drift, natural selection. The simplest name for these varieties—the one favored by Charles Darwin, the father of modern biology—is “races.”

    But we now know that it was an incorrect term and convolutes the meaning of what it means to be a human being. One can dress the matter up in all kinds intellectual and even valid scientific garb. The reality genetically is that we are all of one race -- human race. The issue is not all that complex.

    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same. All of which has been shaped over millions of years by environmental actors static and nonstatic. That Darwin and others used race to make distinctions of human hierarchy of most to least human is an issue we have inherited and are now wrestling with. It is untruthful to claim that the academic community are race denialists, though I suspect that some are.

    The issue surrounds, the meaning of the variations and for whites in particular, the suggestion that they are not in fact at the top of the pyramid via genetics. And by challenging that standard exported throughout the world and enforced with great vigor -- a lot of white people are just scared. And many in some manner of panic are racing, no pun intended, though I suppose it works, to solidify their superior status in science.

    When the issue of race is discussed, in modernity, we are not talking about genetics, we are generally discussion its social construction of meaning. And while it is convenient to hoola hoop the debate into one of science, it is a slight of hand gimmick, for the purpose of blurring the matters of question by ignoring the bridging.

    I won't ignore the bridging.

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    Your point . . . .

    "As we all know, a peculiar orthodoxy about human nature has come up among the Liberal Arts and Grievance Studies (LAGS) types who staff academic administrations, media, and government bureaucracies, including those that approve money grants to research scientists. A key tenet of this orthodoxy: There Is No Such Thing As Race. According to this tenet, race is a “social construct,” a sort of collective optical illusion.


    There is certainly a strange thing happening in and among academics. But the nexus of that discussion has nothing to do with race being real or not. Continuing to make that claim is to abuse the issue(s). The second aspect of the argument concerning "race" as a social construct, is not one of optical illusion save that the social implications of racial superiority has been premised on some faulty science and reasoning that on test don't play out for a myriad of reasons.


    But in all my life I have never met anyone who claimed genetics didn't matter to human existence in the real.

    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same.

    And some of those variations, many of which are unevenly distributed among the various “populations,” advantage a higher or lower proportion of a given population with regard to circumstances and environments. Certain “populations” have a higher mean with regard to the variation that leads to the best chances of “success” in a given pursuit. This being reality, you can demand quotas for white sprinters or just accept the results of the race, pun intended.

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    The peoples on the America's survived successfully before Europeans arrived. In fact they have managed to exist successfully in spite of Europeans. The people's on the Continent have survived and son so successfully longer than the Europeans. And they both survived in periods of drought, famine, warfare, flood, earthquake, etc. And have thrived in spite of it all. They managed to develop waterways, plumbing, roads, technology without destroying the environments they thrived in.

    I think what we are beginning to understand about IQ as defined by the European mind is that it is predicated on need and desire (desire from idleness). On neither continent did the people's needs vast arrays of vaccines, though people in Africa had as practice vaccinations before encountering Europeans. On neither continent did the people's engage in killing their environments for sport as to demonstrate superiority. A practice that has thrown nearly every -- well every environment out of balance that Europeans came into contact with.

    Perhaps, the construct of IQ demonstrates the every present insecurity that Europeans are constantly trying to outrun. The incessant desire to demonstrate superiority. And yet history tells us that to be successful, one need not be superior in any manner. Perhaps, the obsession with IQ to demonstrate superiority -- is but the insecurity of a child constantly having to prove itself to the point of exhaustion. One considers the genius of national parks. When considering why they were created, one must consider how such an obvious composition could have been an oversight in developing cities in the first place.

    One considers the circular rhetorical dynamic, Europeans develop solutions to more problems that they themselves create than the environment demands they create to overcome. Perhaps that is why so many of the indigenous populations look at our heritage as one full of reckless energy that we install as intelligence. And no greater example as that of the Europeans willingness to utterly destroy for the sake of acknowledging superior status as opposed to being a success on the planet. Wiping out the buffalo/bison for profit did not end the native american populations.

    Importing immigrants is not going to save the US republic and one would think people with a successful IQ would learn that lesson from obvious hard core realities of history. Yet the people touting superior intelligence are the advocates of destructive social policies and claiming to be superior humans.


    You bet there is variation in the distribution, but how that interacts with environment or whether said distribution makes humans of this or that more successful is highly dependent on the definition and purpose of success.

    The Jellyfish it is said has successfully exists longer than humans --- as have whales, and even monkey's whether they have the ability to successfully survive humans is predicated on their ability to survive are destructive nature of the few who seem incapable of living without destroying to demonstrate their superior quality.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    one Shorter perspective of the several I posit:

    version -- mistaking muscle power for IQ is the history of European practice. During WWI, africans trained by the French were ensconced in a small french village. The villagers gradually accepted the Africans as they sought to supplement their incomes by engaging community projects and odd kibs. Initially, it was thought the africans simpletons, they spoke a very basic crude french. But eventually one women discovered that the africans had in fact been taught only rudimentary french. She took it upon herself to offer the africans the french as it was intended as language and lo and behold discovered that the blacks were in fact as sophisticated a people as those in the village and they adopted general french linguistics which they mastered as well or better than many french themselves.

    It was uncovered that the french deliberately denied teaching the language in full so as to maintain a superior status. The US refused to permit black US troops to fight along side their US brothers in arms. They assigned them to the French, who discovers that the blacks were as sophisticated humans as themselves. equal to or superior in bravery. And when they began awarding blacks medals for the same, the US military demanded they refrain from doing so -- l'est they begin seeing themselves as equals.


    It is deeply embarrassing to visit a plantation only discover the unacknowledged technology that blacks brought to building technique (s), purposefulness and architectural design. It is the uncovering of the manipulation on mass scale that whites in power - have engaged to delimit knowledge about the intelligence of others. To ignore that is to miss the dilemma concerning the distribution of IQ.


    Power is not by definition linked to IQ.

    , @EliteCommInc.
    that variations deposited in varying degrees withing the human species among various groups of humans


    Saying

    "duh"

    seemed a bit trite.

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  • @Anon
    Does Prof. Reich really expect males from that second group to “embrace” their annihilation?

    Yeah, Bruce Lee kicked Derb's ass but he still ran off with a Chinese girl.

    Derb is the Über Mensch, he will always prevail.

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  • My gymnasium professor at gymnasium told us about a friend of his, also a scientist, deeply religious.
    This friend had said to him ‘there are two compartments in my head, one scientific, the other religious, I hope the wall between will never break trough’.
    Maybe the scientific part of the mentioned book, and the ideological part, are the result of a break through.

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  • @Disordered
    To be fair, Christians also had that old Paul quote about "being kind to your slave", and the ideas of the guy who opposed Bartolome de las Casas in effectively arguing for race realism in Spain. That debate was won by the encomienda owners of Amerindians, to be fair; but even then the philosophical feeling of the Colonia caste system being good did not start to change until the Enlightenment reached the Spanish Bourbons and they started liberalizing - Napoleon's invasion was the other spark that set off the Latin American independence movements. So perhaps Christians are not to blame always for their cheek-turning, at least not in continental Europe as much as the more faith-based abolitionist movement in Northern Europe and the Anglosphere.

    Even then, you could say Christianity was integration-friendly originally, what with being born in the multi-culti milieu of the Roman empire that had just squashed the nation in which the Messiah was just killed. But precisely because later the papacy inherited the purple mantle of philosophical leader of the West, he in effect led the defense of the West alongside the monarchs he validated in their divine right. When the papacy in turn became full of institutional corruption and lost its immaculate moral power, the aforementioned Caesars recovered the mantle of defending their nations/races - the thing is, this in effect split the West (and whites really) into conflicting national interests, including imperial colonization of other peoples for power and money that eventually comes back to bite us (the Roman influence was too strong in this sense). Which wouldn't be a bad thing in theory, if the ultimate resolution of major Western national interests in 1945 didn't involve a complete reversal of roles, which has devolved into the current cuckery. Considering that by then most Western intellectuals believed in Marx more than in Jesus, we cannot entirely blame said cuckery on the Nazorean. "Turning the other cheek" has certainly had good and bad results (usually the interpreter forgets that turning the other cheek means not backing out, and was used in a religious sense), same as "needle through camel's eye"... lest we forget, however, how he mentioned "coming to bring a sword" and being "zealous for His Father[land]'s house"... a true and honest evaluation of Christianity would acknowledge that Christ was more complex than the one icon of the Lamb, and therefore his followers shouldn't be sheep...

    The inability of humanity to think out of the box and to adopt new ideas are functions of the experience of the individual and the restrictions of the societies that the individual respects and not much else. The ability to use actual experience and transferred experience is genetically controlled, but access to experience is environmentally dictated and politically controlled. A society changes as a critical mass of similar thoughts are allowed or occur.

    Propaganda specific to the society and links to the inner close family, the school, its instructors, and media icons all add inputs that determine much of the ability of a human to entertain and to present outside of the culture restricted box.

    One need look no further than the information expansive capacities of the Internet to see the impact of a broader view of the world.

    What I see coming is the intelligent robot.. as that robot acquires experience and broadens its capacity to relate that experience to immediate need and cloud type thoughts many things are going to change. Robots have genes just the same as do humans; robotic gene sets are found in the software routines or hardware switches that compose its operating systems, just as genes and gene sets are software routines or hardware switches that control experience determined human response to environment.

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  • That past is interesting, but its the future that some have planned for us Caucasians that will be dismal.
    In a hundred years, no one will be looking back and asking what happened.

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  • As someone who’s been following HBD for the past 10 plus years or so, I’ve simultaneously been amused and enlightened by the passionate feelings the topic often engenders. The general conceit of the HBD crowd is that they possess deep insight into a body of scientific truth opening up new avenues of understanding entirely shut...
  • @Yan Shen
    Thanks for the comment!

    It is already at or close to world class level on the applied side, in engineering and technology.
     
    It's strongest in engineering and technology currently, but in physical sciences it's also not that far off from world class, perhaps more so for chemistry compared to physics.

    I think the biggest thing I wanted to argue for in this article was that I don't think East Asia will rival the Anglosphere in either software or the life sciences based on math/verbal split.


    Ultimately, ethnic Chinese should be doing their best science in China, as opposed to in American institutions, which can only accommodate so many.
     
    http://www.ecns.cn/2018/04-08/298317.shtml

    However, according to the latest statistics published by the Ministry of Education, about 540,000 Chinese went to study overseas in 2016, with about 430,000 returning. Compared to 2011, 2016 saw a 37.61 percent increase in the number of Chinese studying abroad and a 56.95 percent increase in returnees.

    "In my opinion, China has more opportunities than the U.S. regarding new technology," said Lei, the postdoctoral scholar who got his bachelor's and doctoral degrees at Stanford under the "Thousand Talents Plan".

    "In the past few years, I've been working on a research project that is based on a novel graphitic carbon material with an ultrahigh surface area," said Lei, who studies organic electronic-device fabrication.

    "An extremely large and often still growing share of electronic and technology supply chains are anchored in China.

    "Thus, China is the best place to get my project into production with strong government support for innovation and research and more opportunities for investment."
     

    The number of returnees seems to be increasing. I think as China further rises, the number of people coming over to America to study will inevitably decline as well. So this is a "problem" that will resolve itself over the coming decades.

    Yan,

    I’ve made more remarks on your piece in the following blog post of mine, which you’ll likely find interesting: https://gmachine1729.com/2018/04/23/back-to-blogging/. Also, you’re very welcome (that means please do) to share it with Ron Unz himself. I certainly wouldn’t mind getting to know him. :) I much respect his intellectual honesty.

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  • I am personally tired of scientists apologizing for their discoveries.

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  • res, I am not sure what to make of this result (i.e., the 0.9 polygenic result). It is a fairly startling. utu really made a run at it last time round. I am going to fence sit on this one. It does make sense from the perspective of polygenic adaption. When people are choosing mates they will choose the cognitive phenotype that is observable and it does not matter if the variants involved have super tiny effect sizes. All the variants act as one package. I am just not sure about the technical questions involved. Are we missing something? It would be amazing if something like this could be applied at the individual level. That would really move things into gear! I think the current polygenic scoring might only be explaining perhaps up to 10% of IQ. Is it really possible that this new method could do much much better than that? Would be very startling if it could! Though I guess this is more about looking at the scale of population differences.

    Did he say that the SNPs he was using were those with maximal discriminatory power? I think utu made an argument that any set of SNPs would do. Nevertheless this is super exciting and I certainly wish some experts would provide clarification on this methodology.

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  • @Factorize
    Wow!

    How well does his polygenic predict individual level IQs? I am not sure whether there are any public IQs with phenotypes, though this would be a helpful resource.

    Might you ask him to run his program to predict the IQs of a few individuals from the 1000 Genomes Project? Perhaps HG00096, HG00097, HG00099, HG00100, HG00101? I would love to have a calibration sample. It would also be of interest to have the polygenic scores for these individuals by phased chromosome. How much variance is there between homologous chromosomes? Looking at the likely points of recombination along chromosomes and determining polygenic scores for different scenarios might be of even greater interest.

    It’s not what you are asking for, but the CEU and Yoruba plots in https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-dna-of-genius-n2/ are somewhat in that vein.

    Was the compressed sensing height predictor ever made public? It would be interesting to see how that works in this methodology. It would also provide a good check for the SNP subset/full predictor correlation idea.

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    Davide Piffer tells me that the correlation between group average IQs and his polygenic prediction is now 0.9

    Thanks! Do you know which populations he was using?

    To add some context: https://www.unz.com/jthompson/genetics-of-racial-differences-in-intelligence-updated/

    https://topseudoscience.wordpress.com/2017/06/02/new-genes-same-results-group-level-genotypic-intelligence-for-26-and-52-populations/

    If I understand correctly the 26 population group is 1000 Genomes: http://www.internationalgenome.org/faq/which-populations-are-part-your-study/

    The 52 population group in the link above is from ALFRED (right?): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3245092/
    but the more recent RPubs documents refer to CEPH-HGDP (included in ALFRED?): http://www.cephb.fr/en/hgdp_panel.php
    Are those two references the same data by different names?

    I think the consistently high correlations of IQ and Piffer’s successive PGS provide a good validation of his hypothesis that the smaller SNP subsets capture selection pressure.

    The one PGS which seems like an exception is the relatively low correlations seen in http://rpubs.com/Daxide/279148
    “Correlation between the intelligence PS and IQ,PS_Piffer2017,PS_Piffer_2017_162SNPs are r=0.496, 0.646, 0.497.”

    To preserve context, the rest of that paragraph was: “Correlations between the intelligence-EA PS and IQ, PS_Piffer2017_9, PS_Piffer_2016_162SNPs are r= 0.877, 0.924, 0.835 These are lower than the correlations previously observed (Piffer, 2017)”

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  • The concept of “cognitive capitalism” was used by Yann Boutang in 2008 (modern economies are becoming more knowledge based), but I first heard it used by Heiner Rindermann in a somewhat different sense: cognitive ability is the cause of wealth. Heiner’s earliest mention of it in the title of a paper is one which we...
  • ”Cognitive capitalism”

    ”high IQ” sociopaths [ =/= than psychop] run society based on: agressivity, greed, manipulation..

    IQ = part of [human] intelligence which is required to serve the [unfair/often problematic] system: learn and apply commands and knowledges.

    knowledge as a coin to be used to serve the ”system” as well those who possess it.

    sociopaths and below-empathetic people compete one each other to ”win” at the top of social hierarchy.

    normies compete one each other to serve the ”system” which is often dominated by sociopaths/parasites and below-empathetic people, of course, the elites also have some drop of high functioning normies.

    Most humans are just like domestic dogs while elites are often composed by less-domesticated-types.

    Capitalism ALWAYS mean huge wealth to a tiny fraction of population.

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  • @Bardon Kaldian
    Re queerty -- Geez, what a massive faggotry.... Homos, it seems, don't want equality; they want live to in their own Homotopia, where everything is related to their version of sex & life...

    Supposed to be, you don’t want to live in your own kaldiantopia…

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  • In June 2017 I declared open season on Davide Piffer, inviting criticisms of his findings: The official response to Piffer is: “publish, and then we will give you our comments in reply.” This will take time, but it is the traditional way of doing things. The unofficial response is to encourage more criticism right now,...
  • Wow!

    How well does his polygenic predict individual level IQs? I am not sure whether there are any public IQs with phenotypes, though this would be a helpful resource.

    Might you ask him to run his program to predict the IQs of a few individuals from the 1000 Genomes Project? Perhaps HG00096, HG00097, HG00099, HG00100, HG00101? I would love to have a calibration sample. It would also be of interest to have the polygenic scores for these individuals by phased chromosome. How much variance is there between homologous chromosomes? Looking at the likely points of recombination along chromosomes and determining polygenic scores for different scenarios might be of even greater interest.

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    It's not what you are asking for, but the CEU and Yoruba plots in https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-dna-of-genius-n2/ are somewhat in that vein.

    Was the compressed sensing height predictor ever made public? It would be interesting to see how that works in this methodology. It would also provide a good check for the SNP subset/full predictor correlation idea.
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  • Unless it involves mocking President Trump’s supposedly “small hands,” there is nothing that horrifies our multiculturalist masters more than judging by appearances. It is impossible, they claim, to infer anything about how someone is likely to behave by their gender or because they are from a particular ethnic group. Everyone is unique (but also, somehow,...
  • top psychology journals

    That phrase is of a piece with ‘smartest mongoloid’ or ‘slimmest hippopotamus’.

    Psych research is some of the worst-executed, least-replicable, pulled-out-of-my-ass garbage in the academic literature. It is endogenously worse than highly-conflicted pharma research.

    Imagine that: being worse than a research field known to be corrupted by money… but not even being paid for it – pharma researchers are bad ‘on purpose’ in exchange for the shekels; psych researchers are worse, just because of the low quality of entrants into the field.

    People from disciplines with higher standards have known this since the mid-20h century, but we can finally start to put some hard borders around it – the Cochrane Collaboration and other replication efforts (e.g., the Open Science Collaboration) have shown that less than 40% of ‘landmark’ psych studies were able to be replicated (see “Estimating the reproducibility of psychological science” Science Vol. 349, Issue 6251, aac4716 DOI: 10.1126/science.aac4716 (28 Aug 2015).

    I think the authors should have put “Science” in scare-quotes, because there’s about as much ‘science’ in psych as there is in Creation “Science”, “Scient”-ology, or the Church of Jesus Christ, “Scientist”.
    .
    .
    That said: I would say that, wouldn’t I… as a tall, hairy, part-spear-chucker with a broad face and big hands… who graduated with a joint First (summa cum laude in US parlance) in a technical discipline from a university in the top two dozen in the world (at the time: my alma mater has slipped in the global rankings in the last 25 years, as its leadership corporatised and tried to emulate UCLA instead of the Ivy League/Oxbridge… like the old joke about the Jewish tailor: never mind the quality, feel the weight).

    Yes, my personal stats are an anecdote, and anecdotes aren’t data… however the hard data says that psych research should be rejected a priori until it’s confirmed by independent research conducted by someone outside the “discipline”.

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  • Davide Piffer tells me that the correlation between group average IQs and his polygenic prediction is now 0.9

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    Thanks! Do you know which populations he was using?

    To add some context: https://www.unz.com/jthompson/genetics-of-racial-differences-in-intelligence-updated/
    https://topseudoscience.wordpress.com/2017/06/02/new-genes-same-results-group-level-genotypic-intelligence-for-26-and-52-populations/

    If I understand correctly the 26 population group is 1000 Genomes: http://www.internationalgenome.org/faq/which-populations-are-part-your-study/

    The 52 population group in the link above is from ALFRED (right?): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3245092/
    but the more recent RPubs documents refer to CEPH-HGDP (included in ALFRED?): http://www.cephb.fr/en/hgdp_panel.php
    Are those two references the same data by different names?

    I think the consistently high correlations of IQ and Piffer's successive PGS provide a good validation of his hypothesis that the smaller SNP subsets capture selection pressure.

    The one PGS which seems like an exception is the relatively low correlations seen in http://rpubs.com/Daxide/279148
    "Correlation between the intelligence PS and IQ,PS_Piffer2017,PS_Piffer_2017_162SNPs are r=0.496, 0.646, 0.497."

    To preserve context, the rest of that paragraph was: "Correlations between the intelligence-EA PS and IQ, PS_Piffer2017_9, PS_Piffer_2016_162SNPs are r= 0.877, 0.924, 0.835 These are lower than the correlations previously observed (Piffer, 2017)"
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  • David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • Sort of an off topic book review, I listened to Comey’s book while shelving books, so my attention often wandered. But towards the end, when the book and the recently released memos on his meetings with the presedent become synoptic, I can clearly see Comey’s agenda in that everything the book adds to the original memos is derogatory of Trump.

    For example, in one of the memos, Comey arrives early to his solo dinner with Trump and takes the time to chat with the severs, former military men, before the president arrives. In the book, two additional details to this scene are that the servers are black and Trump never acknowledges them at all.

    Someone should closely study the differences, because the same things happen in moments that Comey now claims Trump obstructed justice. He has changed his accounts to make them much more damning, significantly reducing their credibility.

    At one point, he favorably compares himself to “many people [who] hesitate to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth to their bosses” in the spirit of “keep ‘em in the dark and feed ‘em sh-t,” which, it seems to me, is exactly how he treated Trump, in not telling him the origin of the Steele Dossier, for example.

    At another point, he claims that Hillary was too ignorant of technology to be regarded as culpable for her use of a private server. He quotes her, as if he believes she is this stupid, as believing that her government records were safe from hacking because stored on a server in a house guarded by the US Secret Service.

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  • @Corvinus
    "Well, the “excitement” comes from analysing real data or living and working in some of those shithole countries for years."

    There are many reasons why some countries are "shitholes". European "invade the world, invite the world" machinations certainly did not help matters.

    "There are other factors (stability, infrastructure etc.) but the average IQ rules."

    No, it is one of several factors. Depends upon one's mileage regarding the importance of IQ.

    People like you are completely clueless. You’ve been brainwashed into believing that these people (and their offspring) are no different than Europeans:

    "It simply doesn’t work like that in the real world. Please get yourself a passport and try to experience the world as it is."

    I do. I have been to many places. The people there--white, black, yellow, red, brown--can be kind and considerate, or boorish and rude. Some are extremely gregarious, while others are more reticent. It's called the art of being human and being humane.

    Try it sometime as a break from your routine.

    > The people there–white, black, yellow, red, brown–can be kind and considerate, or boorish and rude. Some are extremely gregarious, while others are more reticent. It’s called the art of being human and being humane.

    That’s a silly argument. No one disputes that individual people vary considerably.

    But when you talk about large groups, averages matter. People are shaped by the society they are part of, but they also in turn shape the society. As their numbers go up, the latter effect is more prevalent than the former.

    As more Africans move into a country, it is reasonable to believe that the country will take on more characteristics of an African country. Do you dispute this fact, or do you welcome it in order to be more humane?

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  • @Truth

    I root for Ebola. AIDS… anything to rid us of this plague
     
    Don't be a sissy. Go down to your local gun store, root for an AR-15, and start taking care of it yourself. Trust me, others will follow suit.

    LOL, well then great, you guys won’t need ebola.

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    middle aged vet said: I rarely reread my comments, but I felt a little bad, after hitting “publish comment” on my latest comment on this thread, when I recollected that I may have used the verb “posted” referring to my comments on the Marginal Revolution blog, not the more accurate and humble verb “commented” — on the blog in question.

    One of my pals has read more of Shakespeare than the most Tolkien-Loving reader has ever read of Tolkien, and my young Shakespeare-loving friend has told me that it is extremely important to get verbs right, the fantastic number of textual ambiguities in the Shakespeare sources does not bother my friend much, but it is clear that one would have hoped otherwise, when so many beautiful lines were almost in question, and who knows what sounds better, when we are talking about the most empathetic words in the most empathetic order in our language. Shakespeare’s or not? The question is easily answered, or not …

    Anyway, if you are one of those people who have the gift of writing things that other people, upon reading, laugh at or cry at upon reading the words that touched their soul— if you are one of those people, you know that if you get the verbs right, then you can relax with the nouns and the participles and the adjectives. (J.D. Denniston, a scholar of whom I know nothing beyond the fact that he published the supremely useful book titled the Greek Participles – a bargain at its current price on Amazon, just saying – well, J.D.D. wrote a few paragraphs in that wonderful book that explain why small words are, in their way, as worthy of as much respect as the tallest tree in the most sacred wood is … (that last sentence was a pastiche of Wallace Stevens, just saying) (my name is life could be the name of a good book and if someone wrote the title any other way than 2 4 2 4 – well, the question is not that hard, it is nice to see that it so easily answered, if i write a book or two the name of the first book will be my name is life).

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  • In the West today there are factors at work that are not included in this discussion. Furthermore, some of the factors lead to very different outcomes over time in the real world. I am now 71. When I was in high school there were boys more tall, broad-faced, athletic, well off, and handsome, but there were always shy girls with small tits that we could date. However, with each decade the situation improves for the little guy. Being thin and artistic turned out over the long run to be a much better deal. Playing a major team sport, especially American football, will considerably raise raise the odds statistically of many physical ailments over the years, and the boys who were really one of the guys, on the team, tended to drink a lot more, and for many this became a habit. Over time the number of men who are healthy and available for each healthy woman who is looking for one goes down. Women live longer too. So, when my wife of many years divorced me when I was in my 50s, I suddenly entered a dating scene were there were a lot more attractive, eligible women of my generation than men.

    All around the world men in ancient civilisations that had been literate for millennia were generally married to women who were five years younger. Today in America couples with that five year gap who marry have the highest chance statistically of never divorcing. Instinctively knowing the man should be little older or having learned about it subtly through culture may account for more of the preference for taller men than instinctively preferring tall ones. My wife, to whom I have been married for twelve years, is 66, five years my junior. When we first started living together I said that I probably could not have sex every day, day after day, so why don’t we skip it every forth day for a while, and see how that works. I never had to mention this again; we rarely deviate from the routine. Today when we came in from our daily walk, she said: “I assume this is day three,” meaning: “we are about to go at it again for the third day in a row, but tomorrow we’ll take a rest day.” The guys who really get the most and best sex in the end, and have the most children in the long run, these may well be a gang of short, narrow faced, men who have always been very careful about what they eat and drink. The whole ra ra sports bit the tall boys enjoyed may well have taken more of them off line than their hight advantage increased. And, they are more likely become a Marine or a fighter pilot, reducing survival odds yet again.

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  • In June 2017 I declared open season on Davide Piffer, inviting criticisms of his findings: The official response to Piffer is: “publish, and then we will give you our comments in reply.” This will take time, but it is the traditional way of doing things. The unofficial response is to encourage more criticism right now,...
  • @FKA Max
    Thanks again, res.

    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.
     
    I understand your skepticism.

    This does not surprise me. Although Afrosapiens’s technique is interesting, using it for between country IQ comparisons of countries with widely differing levels of development has an obvious issue with the EA-development correlation interfering with the EA-IQ correlation.
     
    Yes, that is correct. His Syria IQ of 71 is probably due to current the war in Syria, for example. Mexico is also affected by drug wars, etc. The low Pakistani results could be due to high cousin marriage rates, which depress intelligence, high fertility rates and resultant resource scarcity/depletion, religious instead of scientific/academic teaching/study, etc.

    I think the Met% IQ correlation will become clearer and more pronounced the more peaceful, less religious/more secular and the more per-capita prosperous the world and/or a population/group becomes.

    The populations with higher Met% will likely experience "Super-Flynn Effects", when conditions are favorable for them:

    Race/IQ: Super-Flynn Effects in Germans, Jews, and Hispanics

    The central argument of my piece had been that although GDP and IQ were highly correlated, the direction of causality might well be from the former to the latter, and this attracted much derision.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/runz/raceiq-super-flynn-effects-in-germans-jews-and-hispanics/

    Put another way, the populations/groups with lower Met% might have a lower IQ ceiling and potential, and only experience "Semi-Flynn Effects" even under favorable conditions.

    These are some of the reasons why I am skeptical of test results coming out of East Asia, in particular China:


    The National Center for Fair and Open Testing, a nonprofit known as FairTest, which advocates against the misuse and abuse of standardized tests, said Chinese test prep companies have reported cancellations in Taiwan, Macao, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore and Shanghai.
     
    - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/09/07/security-breach-forces-act-test-cancellation-in-asia-and-weather-causes-some-in-u-s/


    But as with just about everything concerning modern China, the results should also be viewed with some distance and possible skepticism. The 5000+ students who were tested in China's biggest and most modern city may or may not be indicative of broader progress throughout the country (as the NYT story points out). Anyone who has had experience with schools and testing in China will want to know more about how these tests were administered, supervised, and scored.
     
    - https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/12/on-those-stunning-shanghai-test-scores/67654/

    When I slightly alter/manipulate the sample by taking 85,0.135 Micronesia and 72,0.44 Papa New Guinea out of the sample, changing Syria from IQ 71 to Lebanon’s IQ 86 and Pakistan’s IQ 70 to India’s IQ 79, and Mexico from Met% 0.6 to Met% 0.43 like Spain, I get a correlation coefficient of:

    Sample size: 30

    Correlation coefficient (r): 0.55952261014232 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Sample size: 30
    Mean x (x̄): 88.1
    Mean y (ȳ): 0.40061666666667
    Intercept (a): -0.19408755573084
    Slope (b): 0.006750331695772
    Regression line equation: y=0.006750331695772x-0.19408755573084 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/linear-regression/

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    IQ,Met% Country
    104,0.609 Denmark
    102,0.512 Ireland
    100,0.53 UK
    99,0.572 Estonia
    99,0.248 Korea
    97,0.529 Finland
    97,0.47 France
    97,0.304 Japan
    96,0.533 Hungary
    96,0.46 Italy
    96,0.43 Spain
    95,0.478 Russia
    91,0.25 Mongolia
    89,0.5 Iran
    87,0.45 Turkey
    86,0.416 Lebanon
    86,0.416 Syria
    86,0.45 Mexico
    85,0.221 Thailand
    85,0.57 Palestine
    84,0.243 China
    83,0.3 Vietnam
    79,0.232 India
    79,0.465 Pakistan
    79,0.2475 Ghana
    77,0.345 Kenya
    75,0.332 Nigeria
    74,0.297 Cambodia
    72,0.299 Tanzania
    68,0.33 Senegal

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  • David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • “That’s because of regional differences in the human genome. Like any widely-distributed species, ours has developed regional varieties due to local inbreeding under well-understood genetic rules: founder effect, genetic drift, natural selection. The simplest name for these varieties—the one favored by Charles Darwin, the father of modern biology—is “races.”

    But we now know that it was an incorrect term and convolutes the meaning of what it means to be a human being. One can dress the matter up in all kinds intellectual and even valid scientific garb. The reality genetically is that we are all of one race — human race. The issue is not all that complex.

    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same. All of which has been shaped over millions of years by environmental actors static and nonstatic. That Darwin and others used race to make distinctions of human hierarchy of most to least human is an issue we have inherited and are now wrestling with. It is untruthful to claim that the academic community are race denialists, though I suspect that some are.

    The issue surrounds, the meaning of the variations and for whites in particular, the suggestion that they are not in fact at the top of the pyramid via genetics. And by challenging that standard exported throughout the world and enforced with great vigor — a lot of white people are just scared. And many in some manner of panic are racing, no pun intended, though I suppose it works, to solidify their superior status in science.

    When the issue of race is discussed, in modernity, we are not talking about genetics, we are generally discussion its social construction of meaning. And while it is convenient to hoola hoop the debate into one of science, it is a slight of hand gimmick, for the purpose of blurring the matters of question by ignoring the bridging.

    I won’t ignore the bridging.

    ________________________________

    Your point . . . .

    “As we all know, a peculiar orthodoxy about human nature has come up among the Liberal Arts and Grievance Studies (LAGS) types who staff academic administrations, media, and government bureaucracies, including those that approve money grants to research scientists. A key tenet of this orthodoxy: There Is No Such Thing As Race. According to this tenet, race is a “social construct,” a sort of collective optical illusion.

    There is certainly a strange thing happening in and among academics. But the nexus of that discussion has nothing to do with race being real or not. Continuing to make that claim is to abuse the issue(s). The second aspect of the argument concerning “race” as a social construct, is not one of optical illusion save that the social implications of racial superiority has been premised on some faulty science and reasoning that on test don’t play out for a myriad of reasons.

    But in all my life I have never met anyone who claimed genetics didn’t matter to human existence in the real.

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    And withing the human race there are variation in the biological, social and intellectual, emotional existence and expression of the same.

    And some of those variations, many of which are unevenly distributed among the various "populations," advantage a higher or lower proportion of a given population with regard to circumstances and environments. Certain "populations" have a higher mean with regard to the variation that leads to the best chances of "success" in a given pursuit. This being reality, you can demand quotas for white sprinters or just accept the results of the race, pun intended.

    , @Seamus Padraig

    The reality genetically is that we are all of one race — human race.
     
    Well, actually, no. Mankind (homo sapiens) is not a race, but a species. A race is a subspecies.
    , @Talha
    Excellent points - thanks!

    Peace.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    The one and only way to judge people morally is by what they do.

    We judge based on the information we have. If the only info you have about someone is that they are a young black man you probably be weary of meeting him on a street at night.

    Now if you know he’s a doctor with a 140 IQ, you won’t be as worried cause you have more data.

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  • In June 2017 I declared open season on Davide Piffer, inviting criticisms of his findings: The official response to Piffer is: “publish, and then we will give you our comments in reply.” This will take time, but it is the traditional way of doing things. The unofficial response is to encourage more criticism right now,...
  • @res
    Thanks. I downloaded the data for rs4680 from Piffer's source at http://spsmart.cesga.es/ceph.php?dataSet=ceph_stanford
    which allows me to look at COMT Met% for the exact populations Piffer used. Data below.

    I'll probably try to map the Lynn and Afrosapiens IQ estimates into Piffer's populations as I described in my earlier comment (unless you do it first). I am a bit surprised he did not do the Lynn comparison himself in the correlation page I linked.


    It actually weakened the correlation from r = 0.579 Lynn to r = 0.415 Afrosapiens.
     
    This does not surprise me. Although Afrosapiens's technique is interesting, using it for between country IQ comparisons of countries with widely differing levels of development has an obvious issue with the EA-development correlation interfering with the EA-IQ correlation. I think it is much better for within country comparisons (as in a typical EA GWAS) or countries with similar levels of development. Which makes it ironic that Afrosapiens touts his method in the worldwide IQ comparison context but was strangely silent when I brought it up to argue for an EA-IQ link in Nigeria (in a Chanda Chisala thread). That exchange helped make clear just how selective and motivated his reasoning is.

    P.S. Some links to the Nigeria EA-IQ conversation: http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2016734
    http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2012772
    I still can't believe Chanda tried to argue for a zero or even negative correlation between EA and IQ in Nigeria... SMH

    P.P.S. COMT Met% (rs4680 A allele) for Piffer populations below.



    Continent level:

    population N freq_A
    Population Set 1 944 0.389
    AFRICA 102 0.275
    AMERICA 64 0.305
    EUROPE 158 0.494
    MIDDLE EAST 163 0.463
    CENTRAL-SOUTH ASIA 200 0.477
    OCEANIA 28 0.393
    EAST ASIA 229 0.26

    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.

    Subpopulation level:

    population N freq_A
    Population Set 1 944 0.389
    C. African Republic - Biaka Pygmy 22 0.068
    D. R. of Congo - Mbuti Pygmy 13 0.231
    Kenya - Bantu 11 0.364
    Namibia - San 5 0.1
    Nigeria - Yoruba 21 0.405
    Senegal - Mandenka 22 0.364
    South Africa - Bantu 8 0.313
    Brazil - Karitiana 14 0.036
    Brazil - Surui 8 0.313
    Colombia - Piapoco and Curripaco 7 0
    Mexico - Maya 21 0.571
    Mexico - Pima 14 0.321
    France - Basque 24 0.583
    France - French 28 0.482
    Italy - Sardinian 28 0.357
    Italy - Tuscan 8 0.5
    Italy - from Bergamo 13 0.423
    Orkney Islands - Orcadian 15 0.6
    Russia (Caucasus) - Adygei 17 0.412
    Russia - Russian 25 0.6
    Algeria (Mzab) - Mozabite 29 0.431
    Israel (Carmel) - Druze 42 0.464
    Israel (Central) - Palestinian 46 0.533
    Israel (Negev) - Bedouin 46 0.413
    China - Uygur 10 0.45
    Pakistan - Balochi 24 0.542
    Pakistan - Brahui 25 0.42
    Pakistan - Burusho 25 0.48
    Pakistan - Hazara 22 0.523
    Pakistan - Kalash 23 0.565
    Pakistan - Makrani 25 0.46
    Pakistan - Pathan 22 0.432
    Pakistan - Sindhi 24 0.417
    Bougainville - NAN Melanesian 11 0.318
    New Guinea - Papuan 17 0.441
    Cambodia - Cambodian 10 0.35
    China - Dai 10 0.2
    China - Daur 9 0.278
    China - Han 44 0.25
    China - Hezhen 9 0.333
    China - Lahu 8 0.313
    China - Miaozu 10 0.15
    China - Mongola 10 0.25
    China - Naxi 8 0.125
    China - Oroqen 9 0.222
    China - She 10 0.3
    China - Tu 10 0.3
    China - Tujia 10 0.2
    China - Xibo 9 0.167
    China - Yizu 10 0.25
    Japan - Japanese 28 0.304
    Siberia - Yakut 25 0.3

    Thanks again, res.

    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.

    I understand your skepticism.

    This does not surprise me. Although Afrosapiens’s technique is interesting, using it for between country IQ comparisons of countries with widely differing levels of development has an obvious issue with the EA-development correlation interfering with the EA-IQ correlation.

    Yes, that is correct. His Syria IQ of 71 is probably due to current the war in Syria, for example. Mexico is also affected by drug wars, etc. The low Pakistani results could be due to high cousin marriage rates, which depress intelligence, high fertility rates and resultant resource scarcity/depletion, religious instead of scientific/academic teaching/study, etc.

    I think the Met% IQ correlation will become clearer and more pronounced the more peaceful, less religious/more secular and the more per-capita prosperous the world and/or a population/group becomes.

    The populations with higher Met% will likely experience “Super-Flynn Effects”, when conditions are favorable for them:

    Race/IQ: Super-Flynn Effects in Germans, Jews, and Hispanics

    The central argument of my piece had been that although GDP and IQ were highly correlated, the direction of causality might well be from the former to the latter, and this attracted much derision.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/raceiq-super-flynn-effects-in-germans-jews-and-hispanics/

    Put another way, the populations/groups with lower Met% might have a lower IQ ceiling and potential, and only experience “Semi-Flynn Effects” even under favorable conditions.

    These are some of the reasons why I am skeptical of test results coming out of East Asia, in particular China:

    The National Center for Fair and Open Testing, a nonprofit known as FairTest, which advocates against the misuse and abuse of standardized tests, said Chinese test prep companies have reported cancellations in Taiwan, Macao, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore and Shanghai.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/09/07/security-breach-forces-act-test-cancellation-in-asia-and-weather-causes-some-in-u-s/

    But as with just about everything concerning modern China, the results should also be viewed with some distance and possible skepticism. The 5000+ students who were tested in China’s biggest and most modern city may or may not be indicative of broader progress throughout the country (as the NYT story points out). Anyone who has had experience with schools and testing in China will want to know more about how these tests were administered, supervised, and scored.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/12/on-those-stunning-shanghai-test-scores/67654/

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    When I slightly alter/manipulate the sample by taking 85,0.135 Micronesia and 72,0.44 Papa New Guinea out of the sample, changing Syria from IQ 71 to Lebanon's IQ 86 and Pakistan's IQ 70 to India's IQ 79, and Mexico from Met% 0.6 to Met% 0.43 like Spain, I get a correlation coefficient of:

    Sample size: 30

    Correlation coefficient (r): 0.55952261014232 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Sample size: 30
    Mean x (x̄): 88.1
    Mean y (ȳ): 0.40061666666667
    Intercept (a): -0.19408755573084
    Slope (b): 0.006750331695772
    Regression line equation: y=0.006750331695772x-0.19408755573084 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/linear-regression/

    Changed countries highlighted:

    IQ,Met% Country
    104,0.609 Denmark
    102,0.512 Ireland
    100,0.53 UK
    99,0.572 Estonia
    99,0.248 Korea
    97,0.529 Finland
    97,0.47 France
    97,0.304 Japan
    96,0.533 Hungary
    96,0.46 Italy
    96,0.43 Spain
    95,0.478 Russia
    91,0.25 Mongolia
    89,0.5 Iran
    87,0.45 Turkey
    86,0.416 Lebanon
    86,0.416 Syria
    86,0.45 Mexico
    85,0.221 Thailand
    85,0.57 Palestine
    84,0.243 China
    83,0.3 Vietnam
    79,0.232 India
    79,0.465 Pakistan
    79,0.2475 Ghana
    77,0.345 Kenya
    75,0.332 Nigeria
    74,0.297 Cambodia
    72,0.299 Tanzania
    68,0.33 Senegal
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  • David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • Does Prof. Reich really expect males from that second group to “embrace” their annihilation?

    Yeah, Bruce Lee kicked Derb’s ass but he still ran off with a Chinese girl.

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    Derb is the Über Mensch, he will always prevail.
    , @Dagon Shield
    That is his granddaughter you are talking about... shame on you for suggesting it is something other than what it is. Derb can do no wrong, morally or otherwise!
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  • @Truth

    I root for Ebola. AIDS… anything to rid us of this plague
     
    Don't be a sissy. Go down to your local gun store, root for an AR-15, and start taking care of it yourself. Trust me, others will follow suit.

    Yeah, but you’ll hold the gun sideways and miss your target. A civil war based on race will unleash a genocidal beast and high self-esteem/low achievement African Americans will suffer greatly.

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  • @gustafus21
    Blacks also have an IQ 20-30 points below whites - causing young males to challenge the male dominance hierarchy as apex predators.

    FEED THE CHILDREN? -- NOT ON YOUR LIFE - then they breed like roaches and burst their borders.

    WHAT HAVE WE DONE? -- Sorry, but it is kill or be killed time, and not just in Europe. We could have left the Africans to perish in their own excrement... but CHRISTIANS... those idiots... kept proffering more cheeks.

    I root for Ebola. AIDS... anything to rid us of this plague

    To be fair, Christians also had that old Paul quote about “being kind to your slave”, and the ideas of the guy who opposed Bartolome de las Casas in effectively arguing for race realism in Spain. That debate was won by the encomienda owners of Amerindians, to be fair; but even then the philosophical feeling of the Colonia caste system being good did not start to change until the Enlightenment reached the Spanish Bourbons and they started liberalizing – Napoleon’s invasion was the other spark that set off the Latin American independence movements. So perhaps Christians are not to blame always for their cheek-turning, at least not in continental Europe as much as the more faith-based abolitionist movement in Northern Europe and the Anglosphere.

    Even then, you could say Christianity was integration-friendly originally, what with being born in the multi-culti milieu of the Roman empire that had just squashed the nation in which the Messiah was just killed. But precisely because later the papacy inherited the purple mantle of philosophical leader of the West, he in effect led the defense of the West alongside the monarchs he validated in their divine right. When the papacy in turn became full of institutional corruption and lost its immaculate moral power, the aforementioned Caesars recovered the mantle of defending their nations/races – the thing is, this in effect split the West (and whites really) into conflicting national interests, including imperial colonization of other peoples for power and money that eventually comes back to bite us (the Roman influence was too strong in this sense). Which wouldn’t be a bad thing in theory, if the ultimate resolution of major Western national interests in 1945 didn’t involve a complete reversal of roles, which has devolved into the current cuckery. Considering that by then most Western intellectuals believed in Marx more than in Jesus, we cannot entirely blame said cuckery on the Nazorean. “Turning the other cheek” has certainly had good and bad results (usually the interpreter forgets that turning the other cheek means not backing out, and was used in a religious sense), same as “needle through camel’s eye”… lest we forget, however, how he mentioned “coming to bring a sword” and being “zealous for His Father[land]‘s house”… a true and honest evaluation of Christianity would acknowledge that Christ was more complex than the one icon of the Lamb, and therefore his followers shouldn’t be sheep…

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    The inability of humanity to think out of the box and to adopt new ideas are functions of the experience of the individual and the restrictions of the societies that the individual respects and not much else. The ability to use actual experience and transferred experience is genetically controlled, but access to experience is environmentally dictated and politically controlled. A society changes as a critical mass of similar thoughts are allowed or occur.

    Propaganda specific to the society and links to the inner close family, the school, its instructors, and media icons all add inputs that determine much of the ability of a human to entertain and to present outside of the culture restricted box.

    One need look no further than the information expansive capacities of the Internet to see the impact of a broader view of the world.

    What I see coming is the intelligent robot.. as that robot acquires experience and broadens its capacity to relate that experience to immediate need and cloud type thoughts many things are going to change. Robots have genes just the same as do humans; robotic gene sets are found in the software routines or hardware switches that compose its operating systems, just as genes and gene sets are software routines or hardware switches that control experience determined human response to environment.
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  • @Anon
    You can, as I pointed out when addressing AMERICAN RENAISSANCE conference last year, find credentialed academics who will assure you that there is no such thing as sex: that men and women are biologically indistinguishable. We live in an extraordinary time: a good portion of our intelligentsia is clinically insane.

    This actually isn't very surprising. All through the ages, the idea threatened to usurp the reality that it was supposed to represent. Art also went from representing reality to usurping reality. Art came to represent art.

    It's like what Gospel of John says about how there was first the Word.

    When reality is turned into ideas and when these ideas are treated as abstractions in an enclosed ivory tower, there is the danger of people forgetting about the crucial link between reality and ideas.

    This happened with Confucianism too. It began as a philosophy of life. But over time, it just turned into scholarship-for-scholarship's sake.

    And with foot-binding, the IDEA of femininity overrode reality, the fact that feet are supposed to grow naturally.

    In the West, we have a lot of headbinding.

    Agreed, though to be fair, in a way the idea is what makes us human, or rather, the fact that we can derive ideas from reality. Therefore, the Word is in practice first; the mistake is in forgetting that the Word is intrinsically connected to reality, as the speaker is connected to the listener. When we forget that, we either get head-bound with utopian ideas to avoid the world, or emptied and materialistically chained to ether grey reality.

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  • In June 2017 I declared open season on Davide Piffer, inviting criticisms of his findings: The official response to Piffer is: “publish, and then we will give you our comments in reply.” This will take time, but it is the traditional way of doing things. The unofficial response is to encourage more criticism right now,...
  • @FKA Max
    Thanks so much, res.

    I used an online correlation coefficient and linear regression calculator and calculated the correlation with Afrosapiens IQ data ( https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/09/05/worldwide-iq-estimates-based-on-education-data/ see "Results") for thirty-two (32) populations/nations:

    Sample size: 32

    Correlation coefficient (r): 0.41594921999427 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Sample size: 32
    Mean x (x̄): 86.75
    Mean y (ȳ): 0.398859375
    Intercept (a): -0.037613843077569
    Slope (b): 0.0050313915628538
    Regression line equation: y=0.0050313915628538x-0.037613843077569 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Image linear regression: http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/linear-regression/linear-regression-image.php?n=1

    IQ,Met% Country
    104,0.609 Denmark
    102,0.512 Ireland
    100,0.53 UK
    99,0.572 Estonia
    99,0.248 Korea
    97,0.529 Finland
    97,0.47 France
    97,0.304 Japan
    96,0.533 Hungary
    96,0.46 Italy
    96,0.43 Spain
    95,0.478 Russia
    91,0.25 Mongolia
    89,0.5 Iran
    87,0.45 Turkey
    86,0.416 Lebanon
    86,0.6 Mexico
    85,0.221 Thailand
    85,0.57 Palestine
    85,0.135 Micronesia
    84,0.243 China
    83,0.3 Vietnam
    79,0.232 India
    79,0.2475 Ghana
    77,0.345 Kenya
    75,0.332 Nigeria
    74,0.297 Cambodia
    71,0.416 Syria
    72,0.44 Papa New Guinea
    72,0.299 Tanzania
    70,0.465 Pakistan
    68,0.33 Senegal

    It actually weakened the correlation from r = 0.579 Lynn to r = 0.415 Afrosapiens.

    Thanks. I downloaded the data for rs4680 from Piffer’s source at http://spsmart.cesga.es/ceph.php?dataSet=ceph_stanford
    which allows me to look at COMT Met% for the exact populations Piffer used. Data below.

    I’ll probably try to map the Lynn and Afrosapiens IQ estimates into Piffer’s populations as I described in my earlier comment (unless you do it first). I am a bit surprised he did not do the Lynn comparison himself in the correlation page I linked.

    It actually weakened the correlation from r = 0.579 Lynn to r = 0.415 Afrosapiens.

    This does not surprise me. Although Afrosapiens’s technique is interesting, using it for between country IQ comparisons of countries with widely differing levels of development has an obvious issue with the EA-development correlation interfering with the EA-IQ correlation. I think it is much better for within country comparisons (as in a typical EA GWAS) or countries with similar levels of development. Which makes it ironic that Afrosapiens touts his method in the worldwide IQ comparison context but was strangely silent when I brought it up to argue for an EA-IQ link in Nigeria (in a Chanda Chisala thread). That exchange helped make clear just how selective and motivated his reasoning is.

    P.S. Some links to the Nigeria EA-IQ conversation: http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2016734

    http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2012772

    I still can’t believe Chanda tried to argue for a zero or even negative correlation between EA and IQ in Nigeria… SMH

    P.P.S. COMT Met% (rs4680 A allele) for Piffer populations below.

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    Continent level:

    population N freq_A
    Population Set 1 944 0.389
    AFRICA 102 0.275
    AMERICA 64 0.305
    EUROPE 158 0.494
    MIDDLE EAST 163 0.463
    CENTRAL-SOUTH ASIA 200 0.477
    OCEANIA 28 0.393
    EAST ASIA 229 0.26

    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.

    Subpopulation level:

    population N freq_A
    Population Set 1 944 0.389
    C. African Republic – Biaka Pygmy 22 0.068
    D. R. of Congo – Mbuti Pygmy 13 0.231
    Kenya – Bantu 11 0.364
    Namibia – San 5 0.1
    Nigeria – Yoruba 21 0.405
    Senegal – Mandenka 22 0.364
    South Africa – Bantu 8 0.313
    Brazil – Karitiana 14 0.036
    Brazil – Surui 8 0.313
    Colombia – Piapoco and Curripaco 7 0
    Mexico – Maya 21 0.571
    Mexico – Pima 14 0.321
    France – Basque 24 0.583
    France – French 28 0.482
    Italy – Sardinian 28 0.357
    Italy – Tuscan 8 0.5
    Italy – from Bergamo 13 0.423
    Orkney Islands – Orcadian 15 0.6
    Russia (Caucasus) – Adygei 17 0.412
    Russia – Russian 25 0.6
    Algeria (Mzab) – Mozabite 29 0.431
    Israel (Carmel) – Druze 42 0.464
    Israel (Central) – Palestinian 46 0.533
    Israel (Negev) – Bedouin 46 0.413
    China – Uygur 10 0.45
    Pakistan – Balochi 24 0.542
    Pakistan – Brahui 25 0.42
    Pakistan – Burusho 25 0.48
    Pakistan – Hazara 22 0.523
    Pakistan – Kalash 23 0.565
    Pakistan – Makrani 25 0.46
    Pakistan – Pathan 22 0.432
    Pakistan – Sindhi 24 0.417
    Bougainville – NAN Melanesian 11 0.318
    New Guinea – Papuan 17 0.441
    Cambodia – Cambodian 10 0.35
    China – Dai 10 0.2
    China – Daur 9 0.278
    China – Han 44 0.25
    China – Hezhen 9 0.333
    China – Lahu 8 0.313
    China – Miaozu 10 0.15
    China – Mongola 10 0.25
    China – Naxi 8 0.125
    China – Oroqen 9 0.222
    China – She 10 0.3
    China – Tu 10 0.3
    China – Tujia 10 0.2
    China – Xibo 9 0.167
    China – Yizu 10 0.25
    Japan – Japanese 28 0.304
    Siberia – Yakut 25 0.3

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    Thanks again, res.

    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.
     
    I understand your skepticism.

    This does not surprise me. Although Afrosapiens’s technique is interesting, using it for between country IQ comparisons of countries with widely differing levels of development has an obvious issue with the EA-development correlation interfering with the EA-IQ correlation.
     
    Yes, that is correct. His Syria IQ of 71 is probably due to current the war in Syria, for example. Mexico is also affected by drug wars, etc. The low Pakistani results could be due to high cousin marriage rates, which depress intelligence, high fertility rates and resultant resource scarcity/depletion, religious instead of scientific/academic teaching/study, etc.

    I think the Met% IQ correlation will become clearer and more pronounced the more peaceful, less religious/more secular and the more per-capita prosperous the world and/or a population/group becomes.

    The populations with higher Met% will likely experience "Super-Flynn Effects", when conditions are favorable for them:

    Race/IQ: Super-Flynn Effects in Germans, Jews, and Hispanics

    The central argument of my piece had been that although GDP and IQ were highly correlated, the direction of causality might well be from the former to the latter, and this attracted much derision.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/runz/raceiq-super-flynn-effects-in-germans-jews-and-hispanics/

    Put another way, the populations/groups with lower Met% might have a lower IQ ceiling and potential, and only experience "Semi-Flynn Effects" even under favorable conditions.

    These are some of the reasons why I am skeptical of test results coming out of East Asia, in particular China:


    The National Center for Fair and Open Testing, a nonprofit known as FairTest, which advocates against the misuse and abuse of standardized tests, said Chinese test prep companies have reported cancellations in Taiwan, Macao, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore and Shanghai.
     
    - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/09/07/security-breach-forces-act-test-cancellation-in-asia-and-weather-causes-some-in-u-s/


    But as with just about everything concerning modern China, the results should also be viewed with some distance and possible skepticism. The 5000+ students who were tested in China's biggest and most modern city may or may not be indicative of broader progress throughout the country (as the NYT story points out). Anyone who has had experience with schools and testing in China will want to know more about how these tests were administered, supervised, and scored.
     
    - https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/12/on-those-stunning-shanghai-test-scores/67654/
    , @FKA Max


    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.
     
    res,

    I found another study that could shed some light on what we were discussing, and actually, I believe, proves both of us right to some extent:

    Association study between COMT 158Met and creativity scores in bipolar disorder and healthy controls

    There are many difficulties inherent to systematic studies of creativity, particularly methodological problems concerning the reliability and validity of creativity measures, and disagreements over the definition of creativity. The BWAS is not the only measure of creativity and other measures should be explored before drawing more definitive conclusions. In the present study, it was decided to examine the correlation between scores on a widely used scale for measuring creativity and the presence of functional polymorphism of COMT (rs4680), which likely influences PFC cognition, in a homogeneous sample of university students. Our results are also consistent with those reported in the literature investigating the role of DA and COMT in PFC function and cognition. However, no influence of COMT on IQ was evident, and BWAS and IQ scores were unrelated, further suggesting some degree of specificity in the association of COMT with creativity.

    This study is the first to report findings that suggest the effects of COMT gene polymorphism may not be limited to isolated basal cognitive abilities, but could partially account for greater cognitive abilities related to creativity in healthy controls.
     
    - http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0101-60832014000200029

    Another Half Brick of Creativity


    The paper is slightly unusual, in that it seeks to model creative processes using IQ120 as a cut-off, and so runs contrary to the general findings of the Lubinski and Benbow work that there is no cut-off point, and that the brighter you are the more creative you are in real life.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/another-half-brick-of-creativity/#p_1_9

    Heave Half a Brick at Creativity

    http://lh6.ggpht.com/-6RIi9RaWz0I/VKWLiLxk8fI/AAAAAAAAAuA/LpL_OgIuaec/image_thumb%25255B7%25255D.png

    Source: https://www.unz.com/jthompson/heave-half-brick-at-creativity/

    This raises several questions for me, specifically whether creativity is a better measure of intelligence/brightness than IQ is?

    Population COMT Met frequencies might be the best indicator we have to determine creativity, and lower COMT Met frequencies in East Asian populations might also explain the "low-creativity" stereotype often associated with East Asians.

    ‘Why Do Chinese Lack Creativity?’

    It’s not for lack of trying. The Chinese government now pours billions of dollars annually into research and development — by one estimate, its research and development budget may surpass U.S. spending by 2019 — and Chinese President Xi Jinping has emphasized innovation in his speeches. For the past four years, China has filed more patent applications than any other country, although state news agency Xinhua has described the quality of those patents as “poor.” - http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/06/23/china-innovation-creativity-research-patents/

    I discussed something similar a while back with Afrosapiens:

    Following is my position on IQ tests. Maybe instead of “IQ test”, it should more accurately be called a “ Formal Education Potential, Quality and Attainment test” or something like that. I still feel the tests are useful and can offer some interesting insights, but they surely are and should not be the be-all and end-all tool of how we organize and structure our nations and societies, IMHO:

    I think what is important to reiterate is that IQ tests seem to measure and predict certain things very accurately, e.g., better cognitive performance/functioning under pressure/stress, educational attainment, income, possibly testosterone and dopamine levels, etc., but they do ironically/paradoxically only seem to test “intelligence” to a limited extent, at least that is my best, current understanding and interpretation of the data I have researched thus far.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2072872

    To conclude:

    What are Piffer et al.'s SNPs actually measuring?
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    https://youtu.be/LwDbgE54QYE?t=1m49s

    Ah, old classics.

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  • @FKA Max
    Thanks so much, res.

    I used an online correlation coefficient and linear regression calculator and calculated the correlation with Afrosapiens IQ data ( https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/09/05/worldwide-iq-estimates-based-on-education-data/ see "Results") for thirty-two (32) populations/nations:

    Sample size: 32

    Correlation coefficient (r): 0.41594921999427 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Sample size: 32
    Mean x (x̄): 86.75
    Mean y (ȳ): 0.398859375
    Intercept (a): -0.037613843077569
    Slope (b): 0.0050313915628538
    Regression line equation: y=0.0050313915628538x-0.037613843077569 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Image linear regression: http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/linear-regression/linear-regression-image.php?n=1

    IQ,Met% Country
    104,0.609 Denmark
    102,0.512 Ireland
    100,0.53 UK
    99,0.572 Estonia
    99,0.248 Korea
    97,0.529 Finland
    97,0.47 France
    97,0.304 Japan
    96,0.533 Hungary
    96,0.46 Italy
    96,0.43 Spain
    95,0.478 Russia
    91,0.25 Mongolia
    89,0.5 Iran
    87,0.45 Turkey
    86,0.416 Lebanon
    86,0.6 Mexico
    85,0.221 Thailand
    85,0.57 Palestine
    85,0.135 Micronesia
    84,0.243 China
    83,0.3 Vietnam
    79,0.232 India
    79,0.2475 Ghana
    77,0.345 Kenya
    75,0.332 Nigeria
    74,0.297 Cambodia
    71,0.416 Syria
    72,0.44 Papa New Guinea
    72,0.299 Tanzania
    70,0.465 Pakistan
    68,0.33 Senegal

    It actually weakened the correlation from r = 0.579 Lynn to r = 0.415 Afrosapiens.
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  • @res
    Sounds like something worth testing. I think the best way to do this is to incorporate the additional data into the analysis in http://rpubs.com/Daxide/377423
    I have that running locally so all I need is the appropriate data.

    The easiest way to do that would be to modify the HGDP_PGS .csv available at https://osf.io/uays8/
    Note the specific populations needed in the first column.

    Would it be possible for you to create a file adding the fields you want to that? I assume you would be looking at Lynn IQ, Afro IQ, and % Met?

    I can create the data file, but there are enough population mapping issues that I would prefer the person interested in the results make those assumptions.

    P.S. If Davide would like to look at this himself IMHO that would be even better.

    P.P.S. Do you have any thoughts why rs4680 does not show up in the results for the latest EA study? https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs4680
    Though that page does show an IQ related connection: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24853458?dopt=Abstract
    There is one SNP in the EA study that is in fairly high LD (D' = 0.8, r^2 =0.28 in CEU) with rs4680: rs2240715, but the p value is 0.7 with a small beta (I did not check exhaustively, just a quick visual look at chr 22 hits). Actually, rs165655 is also similar.

    Thanks so much, res.

    I used an online correlation coefficient and linear regression calculator and calculated the correlation with Afrosapiens IQ data ( https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/09/05/worldwide-iq-estimates-based-on-education-data/ see “Results”) for thirty-two (32) populations/nations:

    Sample size: 32

    Correlation coefficient (r): 0.41594921999427 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Sample size: 32
    Mean x (x̄): 86.75
    Mean y (ȳ): 0.398859375
    Intercept (a): -0.037613843077569
    Slope (b): 0.0050313915628538
    Regression line equation: y=0.0050313915628538x-0.037613843077569 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Image linear regression: http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/linear-regression/linear-regression-image.php?n=1

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    IQ,Met% Country
    104,0.609 Denmark
    102,0.512 Ireland
    100,0.53 UK
    99,0.572 Estonia
    99,0.248 Korea
    97,0.529 Finland
    97,0.47 France
    97,0.304 Japan
    96,0.533 Hungary
    96,0.46 Italy
    96,0.43 Spain
    95,0.478 Russia
    91,0.25 Mongolia
    89,0.5 Iran
    87,0.45 Turkey
    86,0.416 Lebanon
    86,0.6 Mexico
    85,0.221 Thailand
    85,0.57 Palestine
    85,0.135 Micronesia
    84,0.243 China
    83,0.3 Vietnam
    79,0.232 India
    79,0.2475 Ghana
    77,0.345 Kenya
    75,0.332 Nigeria
    74,0.297 Cambodia
    71,0.416 Syria
    72,0.44 Papa New Guinea
    72,0.299 Tanzania
    70,0.465 Pakistan
    68,0.33 Senegal

    It actually weakened the correlation from r = 0.579 Lynn to r = 0.415 Afrosapiens.

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    • Replies: @FKA Max
    Correction: I shared the wrong link for the linear regression calculator I used, here the correct one: http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/linear-regression/

    And again, here the Piffer Met% data I used: https://www.amren.com/news/2014/01/correlation-of-the-comt-val158met-polymorphism-with-latitude-and-a-hunter-gather-lifestyle-suggests-culture-gene-coevolution-and-selective-pressure-on-cognition-genes-due-to-climate/

    , @res
    Thanks. I downloaded the data for rs4680 from Piffer's source at http://spsmart.cesga.es/ceph.php?dataSet=ceph_stanford
    which allows me to look at COMT Met% for the exact populations Piffer used. Data below.

    I'll probably try to map the Lynn and Afrosapiens IQ estimates into Piffer's populations as I described in my earlier comment (unless you do it first). I am a bit surprised he did not do the Lynn comparison himself in the correlation page I linked.


    It actually weakened the correlation from r = 0.579 Lynn to r = 0.415 Afrosapiens.
     
    This does not surprise me. Although Afrosapiens's technique is interesting, using it for between country IQ comparisons of countries with widely differing levels of development has an obvious issue with the EA-development correlation interfering with the EA-IQ correlation. I think it is much better for within country comparisons (as in a typical EA GWAS) or countries with similar levels of development. Which makes it ironic that Afrosapiens touts his method in the worldwide IQ comparison context but was strangely silent when I brought it up to argue for an EA-IQ link in Nigeria (in a Chanda Chisala thread). That exchange helped make clear just how selective and motivated his reasoning is.

    P.S. Some links to the Nigeria EA-IQ conversation: http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2016734
    http://www.unz.com/article/my-last-word-on-the-scrabble-and-iq-debate-2/#comment-2012772
    I still can't believe Chanda tried to argue for a zero or even negative correlation between EA and IQ in Nigeria... SMH

    P.P.S. COMT Met% (rs4680 A allele) for Piffer populations below.



    Continent level:

    population N freq_A
    Population Set 1 944 0.389
    AFRICA 102 0.275
    AMERICA 64 0.305
    EUROPE 158 0.494
    MIDDLE EAST 163 0.463
    CENTRAL-SOUTH ASIA 200 0.477
    OCEANIA 28 0.393
    EAST ASIA 229 0.26

    These continent level numbers (particularly East Asia) make me skeptical about a strong Met% IQ connection.

    Subpopulation level:

    population N freq_A
    Population Set 1 944 0.389
    C. African Republic - Biaka Pygmy 22 0.068
    D. R. of Congo - Mbuti Pygmy 13 0.231
    Kenya - Bantu 11 0.364
    Namibia - San 5 0.1
    Nigeria - Yoruba 21 0.405
    Senegal - Mandenka 22 0.364
    South Africa - Bantu 8 0.313
    Brazil - Karitiana 14 0.036
    Brazil - Surui 8 0.313
    Colombia - Piapoco and Curripaco 7 0
    Mexico - Maya 21 0.571
    Mexico - Pima 14 0.321
    France - Basque 24 0.583
    France - French 28 0.482
    Italy - Sardinian 28 0.357
    Italy - Tuscan 8 0.5
    Italy - from Bergamo 13 0.423
    Orkney Islands - Orcadian 15 0.6
    Russia (Caucasus) - Adygei 17 0.412
    Russia - Russian 25 0.6
    Algeria (Mzab) - Mozabite 29 0.431
    Israel (Carmel) - Druze 42 0.464
    Israel (Central) - Palestinian 46 0.533
    Israel (Negev) - Bedouin 46 0.413
    China - Uygur 10 0.45
    Pakistan - Balochi 24 0.542
    Pakistan - Brahui 25 0.42
    Pakistan - Burusho 25 0.48
    Pakistan - Hazara 22 0.523
    Pakistan - Kalash 23 0.565
    Pakistan - Makrani 25 0.46
    Pakistan - Pathan 22 0.432
    Pakistan - Sindhi 24 0.417
    Bougainville - NAN Melanesian 11 0.318
    New Guinea - Papuan 17 0.441
    Cambodia - Cambodian 10 0.35
    China - Dai 10 0.2
    China - Daur 9 0.278
    China - Han 44 0.25
    China - Hezhen 9 0.333
    China - Lahu 8 0.313
    China - Miaozu 10 0.15
    China - Mongola 10 0.25
    China - Naxi 8 0.125
    China - Oroqen 9 0.222
    China - She 10 0.3
    China - Tu 10 0.3
    China - Tujia 10 0.2
    China - Xibo 9 0.167
    China - Yizu 10 0.25
    Japan - Japanese 28 0.304
    Siberia - Yakut 25 0.3
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    "merciless enquiry and savage criticism": you mean, is Piffer piffle?

    precisely. a souffle of barbed wire.

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    So you think he's actually saying "Don't blame me, my wife wrote the dross parts"?

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  • @FKA Max
    res,

    could you, please, do me a favor and calculate the correlation between the population/nation Met allele frequencies of Mr. Piffer's following paper: https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/correlation-of-the-comt-val158met-polymorphism-with-latitude-and-a-hunter-gather-lifestyle-suggests-culturee28093gene-coevolution-and-selective-pressure-on-cognition-genes-due-to-climate.pdf

    https://2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/MetFrequency.jpg

    and Afrosapiens's IQ data instead of Lynn's IQ data, because I believe the correlation will be even stronger and will explain Piffer's contradictory finding: "Particularly interesting is the relatively low frequency of COMT in East Asian populations (range 0.22–0.30), which contrasts with their reported higher IQ (105)." - p. 169

    https://notpolitcallycorrect.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/ranking.png

    Source: https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/09/05/worldwide-iq-estimates-based-on-education-data/

    This is what I wrote a couple of months ago on this:

    If East Asians were not such hard-working students http://www.unz.com/freed/fun-with-iq-deep-thought/#comment-2095195 and were not performing so well on standardized IQ tests due to their studying habits th[e]n the global correlation between IQ and population COMT Met frequencies would be even higher, in my opinion:

    Correlation of the COMT Val158Met Polymorphism with Latitude and a Hunter-Gather Lifestyle Suggests Culture–Gene Coevolution and Selective Pressure on Cognition Genes Due to Climate

    Davide Piffer, Anthropological Science, July 31, 2013

    Thus, the global correlation between IQ and Met allele frequency is r = 0.579 and highly statistically significant (n = 38; P < 0.001). This supports the prediction that populations with higher Met allele frequency have higher IQ, similarly to the correlation observed at the individual level.

    – https://www.amren.com/news/2014/01/correlation-of-the-comt-val158met-polymorphism-with-latitude-and-a-hunter-gather-lifestyle-suggests-culture-gene-coevolution-and-selective-pressure-on-cognition-genes-due-to-climate/
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/time-to-stop-importing-an-immigrant-overclass/#comment-2118604

    I agree with Afrosapiens that Lynn has overestimated East Asian intelligence, and I believe that COMT Met is still the best genetic predictor of intelligence, even though some researchers like Emil Kirkegaard disagree:

    Just commented on this issue over in another Unz Review comments thread, Mr. Thompson, and how these emotional and genetic differences can even affect IQ test scores, etc., since stress-susceptibility is quite a significant moderating/confounding factor when it comes to stressful test taking conditions, in my opinion.
    [...]
    East Asians and Africans, on average, have a competitive advantage under stressful test taking conditions over Caucasians and Mexicans, etc. due to this, in my opinion.
    [...]
    Mr. Kirkegaard thinks that these are “More failed candidate gene ideas.”, but I believe he is jumping to premature conclusion, due to the reasons I stated above
     

    - https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-anatomy-of-melancholy/#comment-2124173

    In this video, the person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_Bronson interviewed claims/estimates that “worriers/strategists” have a 10 IQ point advantage over “warriors” in non-stressful situations/environments. - https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-anatomy-of-melancholy/#comment-2124219

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2_3RXmXoM8

    Thank you very much, res.

    Sounds like something worth testing. I think the best way to do this is to incorporate the additional data into the analysis in http://rpubs.com/Daxide/377423
    I have that running locally so all I need is the appropriate data.

    The easiest way to do that would be to modify the HGDP_PGS .csv available at https://osf.io/uays8/
    Note the specific populations needed in the first column.

    Would it be possible for you to create a file adding the fields you want to that? I assume you would be looking at Lynn IQ, Afro IQ, and % Met?

    I can create the data file, but there are enough population mapping issues that I would prefer the person interested in the results make those assumptions.

    P.S. If Davide would like to look at this himself IMHO that would be even better.

    P.P.S. Do you have any thoughts why rs4680 does not show up in the results for the latest EA study? https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs4680
    Though that page does show an IQ related connection: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24853458?dopt=Abstract
    There is one SNP in the EA study that is in fairly high LD (D’ = 0.8, r^2 =0.28 in CEU) with rs4680: rs2240715, but the p value is 0.7 with a small beta (I did not check exhaustively, just a quick visual look at chr 22 hits). Actually, rs165655 is also similar.

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    Thanks so much, res.

    I used an online correlation coefficient and linear regression calculator and calculated the correlation with Afrosapiens IQ data ( https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/09/05/worldwide-iq-estimates-based-on-education-data/ see "Results") for thirty-two (32) populations/nations:

    Sample size: 32

    Correlation coefficient (r): 0.41594921999427 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Sample size: 32
    Mean x (x̄): 86.75
    Mean y (ȳ): 0.398859375
    Intercept (a): -0.037613843077569
    Slope (b): 0.0050313915628538
    Regression line equation: y=0.0050313915628538x-0.037613843077569 : http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/correlation-coefficient/

    Image linear regression: http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/linear-regression/linear-regression-image.php?n=1

    IQ,Met% Country
    104,0.609 Denmark
    102,0.512 Ireland
    100,0.53 UK
    99,0.572 Estonia
    99,0.248 Korea
    97,0.529 Finland
    97,0.47 France
    97,0.304 Japan
    96,0.533 Hungary
    96,0.46 Italy
    96,0.43 Spain
    95,0.478 Russia
    91,0.25 Mongolia
    89,0.5 Iran
    87,0.45 Turkey
    86,0.416 Lebanon
    86,0.6 Mexico
    85,0.221 Thailand
    85,0.57 Palestine
    85,0.135 Micronesia
    84,0.243 China
    83,0.3 Vietnam
    79,0.232 India
    79,0.2475 Ghana
    77,0.345 Kenya
    75,0.332 Nigeria
    74,0.297 Cambodia
    71,0.416 Syria
    72,0.44 Papa New Guinea
    72,0.299 Tanzania
    70,0.465 Pakistan
    68,0.33 Senegal

    It actually weakened the correlation from r = 0.579 Lynn to r = 0.415 Afrosapiens.
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  • @Steve Gittelson
    Frankly, I believe you have created a number of stories in your mind, and you indulge in variations and adaptations of those stories.

    Far be it from me to concern myself with what you believe and why you believe it.

    But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
    --Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

    Thanks, Steve, for trying to understand. And thanks for the interesting responses.

    I am not going to ramble on here, but if you are interested, I have posted a couple hundred times as “Efim Polenov” at the Marginal Revolution blog, where I attempt to explain, again and again, in a kind-hearted and sometimes consciously foolish way, why intelligent scientists and scholars and honest citizens of our contemporary democratic world should at least feel some respect for those who claim to understand why, exactly why, we all know God loves us, even if we are ignoring that knowledge day to day (if you are a person interested in words, the Book of Proverbs, along with Isaiah, is the wonderful gentle place to which I subtly refer every single time, but it is my failing that it is not the whole Bible I refer to, every single time – Eliot was good on this intellectual (just kidding, “intellectual” is not the word that you want) type of lifelong references to books that are, as Schnabel said about musical compositions he liked, better than they can be played – Little Gidding, for example, which refers again and again to the letters of John the Apostle, when read with compassion for the poet’s failings, explains lots of my basic rhetorical tricks in the referring-to-Proverbs-and-Isaiah way. It is kind of simple and not really complicated, but accurate, which is not nothing) .

    If you are not interested in how I explain everything, that is ok too. I have a couple dozen pals who long ago professed their vows as nuns or priests or contemplatives with vows of poverty and I will ask each and every one of them to pray for each of us to understand the world better. God loves us all. Cor ad cor loquitur, dixit Deus, septimo vespertino hora (heart speaks to heart, said God, in the evening hour of the seventh day)

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  • @Anon
    Why is the book like this?

    Same old story. Galileo knew. Official Geo-centrism vs Empirical Helio-centrism.

    When it comes to evolutionary science, there is bio-centrism under attack from ideo-centrism.

    Reich is torn. He grew up under the Shoah Narrative that has become like a faith. It said German 'Aryans' believed in racial differences and waged wars and committed genocide. But good guys won and established that All Peoples are Equal. This is the faith of the West, as powerful as Geo-centrism in Galileo's time. It was especially useful to Jews who were targeted by 'Aryans'.

    And yet it was always an uneasy myth. After all, Germans feared Jews because they were 'too smart'. Also, black athletes who demolished the 'aryan' myth of superiority established the black fact of superiority in running and fighting.

    Yes, history shows that blacks are as much better at fighting than whites as they are at music:

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  • @gustafus21
    Blacks also have an IQ 20-30 points below whites - causing young males to challenge the male dominance hierarchy as apex predators.

    FEED THE CHILDREN? -- NOT ON YOUR LIFE - then they breed like roaches and burst their borders.

    WHAT HAVE WE DONE? -- Sorry, but it is kill or be killed time, and not just in Europe. We could have left the Africans to perish in their own excrement... but CHRISTIANS... those idiots... kept proffering more cheeks.

    I root for Ebola. AIDS... anything to rid us of this plague

    I root for Ebola. AIDS… anything to rid us of this plague

    Don’t be a sissy. Go down to your local gun store, root for an AR-15, and start taking care of it yourself. Trust me, others will follow suit.

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    Yeah, but you'll hold the gun sideways and miss your target. A civil war based on race will unleash a genocidal beast and high self-esteem/low achievement African Americans will suffer greatly.
    , @Truth
    LOL, well then great, you guys won't need ebola.
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  • @res
    Thanks to you and Piffer for providing this!

    I just downloaded the OSF files. GWAS_EA.to10K.txt appears to be missing. I assume it is the file at https://www.thessgac.org/data so downloaded from there.

    The file.choose mechanism is inconvenient for repeated runs. Would it be possible (I could do this if wanted) to include a small function which takes a binary flag (defined in a single place at the start of the file) and either calls file.choose or loads the default file? Here is a simple version if anyone wants it.

    choose.file <- function(filename, use.chooser=FALSE) {
    if (use.chooser) {
    file.choose()
    } else {
    filename
    }
    }

    use.chooser <- TRUE

    HGDP_CEPH=read.csv(choose.file("Lee_results_10k_final.csv", use.chooser), header=TRUE, sep = ";")#open HGDP-CEPH browser output with freqs from GWAS hits
     
    It might help readability (e.g. the second paragraph) to force line breaks in the output where desired. Adding two spaces at the end of the line does this in R Markdown (otherwise it merges successive lines).

    I found the first bar chart easier to read with "fig.height=8" set.

    The other PGS results and correlations (see either the Rmd files or RPubs) are also very interesting.

    res,

    could you, please, do me a favor and calculate the correlation between the population/nation Met allele frequencies of Mr. Piffer’s following paper: https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/correlation-of-the-comt-val158met-polymorphism-with-latitude-and-a-hunter-gather-lifestyle-suggests-culturee28093gene-coevolution-and-selective-pressure-on-cognition-genes-due-to-climate.pdf

    and Afrosapiens‘s IQ data instead of Lynn’s IQ data, because I believe the correlation will be even stronger and will explain Piffer’s contradictory finding: “Particularly interesting is the relatively low frequency of COMT in East Asian populations (range 0.22–0.30), which contrasts with their reported higher IQ (105).” – p. 169

    Source: https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/09/05/worldwide-iq-estimates-based-on-education-data/

    This is what I wrote a couple of months ago on this:

    If East Asians were not such hard-working students http://www.unz.com/freed/fun-with-iq-deep-thought/#comment-2095195 and were not performing so well on standardized IQ tests due to their studying habits th[e]n the global correlation between IQ and population COMT Met frequencies would be even higher, in my opinion:

    Correlation of the COMT Val158Met Polymorphism with Latitude and a Hunter-Gather Lifestyle Suggests Culture–Gene Coevolution and Selective Pressure on Cognition Genes Due to Climate

    Davide Piffer, Anthropological Science, July 31, 2013

    Thus, the global correlation between IQ and Met allele frequency is r = 0.579 and highly statistically significant (n = 38; P < 0.001). This supports the prediction that populations with higher Met allele frequency have higher IQ, similarly to the correlation observed at the individual level.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2014/01/correlation-of-the-comt-val158met-polymorphism-with-latitude-and-a-hunter-gather-lifestyle-suggests-culture-gene-coevolution-and-selective-pressure-on-cognition-genes-due-to-climate/

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/time-to-stop-importing-an-immigrant-overclass/#comment-2118604

    I agree with Afrosapiens that Lynn has overestimated East Asian intelligence, and I believe that COMT Met is still the best genetic predictor of intelligence, even though some researchers like Emil Kirkegaard disagree:

    Just commented on this issue over in another Unz Review comments thread, Mr. Thompson, and how these emotional and genetic differences can even affect IQ test scores, etc., since stress-susceptibility is quite a significant moderating/confounding factor when it comes to stressful test taking conditions, in my opinion.
    [...]
    East Asians and Africans, on average, have a competitive advantage under stressful test taking conditions over Caucasians and Mexicans, etc. due to this, in my opinion.
    [...]
    Mr. Kirkegaard thinks that these are “More failed candidate gene ideas.”, but I believe he is jumping to premature conclusion, due to the reasons I stated above

    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-anatomy-of-melancholy/#comment-2124173

    In this video, the person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_Bronson interviewed claims/estimates that “worriers/strategists” have a 10 IQ point advantage over “warriors” in non-stressful situations/environments. https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-anatomy-of-melancholy/#comment-2124219

    Thank you very much, res.

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    Sounds like something worth testing. I think the best way to do this is to incorporate the additional data into the analysis in http://rpubs.com/Daxide/377423
    I have that running locally so all I need is the appropriate data.

    The easiest way to do that would be to modify the HGDP_PGS .csv available at https://osf.io/uays8/
    Note the specific populations needed in the first column.

    Would it be possible for you to create a file adding the fields you want to that? I assume you would be looking at Lynn IQ, Afro IQ, and % Met?

    I can create the data file, but there are enough population mapping issues that I would prefer the person interested in the results make those assumptions.

    P.S. If Davide would like to look at this himself IMHO that would be even better.

    P.P.S. Do you have any thoughts why rs4680 does not show up in the results for the latest EA study? https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs4680
    Though that page does show an IQ related connection: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24853458?dopt=Abstract
    There is one SNP in the EA study that is in fairly high LD (D' = 0.8, r^2 =0.28 in CEU) with rs4680: rs2240715, but the p value is 0.7 with a small beta (I did not check exhaustively, just a quick visual look at chr 22 hits). Actually, rs165655 is also similar.
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  • @Daniel Chieh
    This is also why Saudi Arabia is a superstar state now. Please.

    If you can explain how this is any manner related to my comments or your for that matter, I will address it — but as it is — it makes no sense.

    The Middle East has been the target of colonial dynamics.

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  • “merciless enquiry and savage criticism”: you mean, is Piffer piffle?

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    precisely. a souffle of barbed wire.
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  • David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • @res
    The contrast within the book was dramatic as you note. Is it possible his wife was largely responsible for some of the non-science parts? The first acknowledgment was: "First thing first. This book emerged out of a year of intense collaboration with my wife, Eugenie Reich. We researched the book together, prepared the first drafts of the chapters together, and talked about the book incessantly as it matured. This book would not have come into being without her."

    https://eugenier.wordpress.com/

    So you think he’s actually saying “Don’t blame me, my wife wrote the dross parts”?

    Harsh!

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    I did not mean to imply Reich was saying that. I think the acknowledgement was well meant. It is just that I suspect her influence (as a science writer) may have been important for the content of the less scientific (and more ad hominem) parts. Of course, I could be completely wrong...
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  • The truth is that India is composed of a large number of small populations.

    Hasn’t Sailer been making this point for years?

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  • j2 says:

    Happy to see that you are a bit skeptical of Piffer’s results, I thought I was the only one. They are very good and quite what you might want, and that is the problem I have with them. The polygenic score approach itself is a question mark. Most mutations should be recessive, yet in the polygenic score you count 1=heterozygote, 2=homozygote, as if it was partially dominant. I have a somewhat different view of intelligence, wrote a post here

    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/20/men-inherit-male-intelligence-from-mom-but-not-the-iq-variance/

    So, I think men have from the X chromosome a different brain structure, and additionally there are the IQ-boosting autosomal genes and the IQ-lowering recessive X-linked genes, that in men get expressed. Piffer’s papers simplify a difficult issue too much to my liking and the results are better than I would expect.

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  • The contrast within the book was dramatic as you note. Is it possible his wife was largely responsible for some of the non-science parts? The first acknowledgment was: “First thing first. This book emerged out of a year of intense collaboration with my wife, Eugenie Reich. We researched the book together, prepared the first drafts of the chapters together, and talked about the book incessantly as it matured. This book would not have come into being without her.”

    https://eugenier.wordpress.com/

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    • Replies: @dearieme
    So you think he's actually saying "Don't blame me, my wife wrote the dross parts"?

    Harsh!
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  • @Anon
    Why is the book like this?

    Same old story. Galileo knew. Official Geo-centrism vs Empirical Helio-centrism.

    When it comes to evolutionary science, there is bio-centrism under attack from ideo-centrism.

    Reich is torn. He grew up under the Shoah Narrative that has become like a faith. It said German 'Aryans' believed in racial differences and waged wars and committed genocide. But good guys won and established that All Peoples are Equal. This is the faith of the West, as powerful as Geo-centrism in Galileo's time. It was especially useful to Jews who were targeted by 'Aryans'.

    And yet it was always an uneasy myth. After all, Germans feared Jews because they were 'too smart'. Also, black athletes who demolished the 'aryan' myth of superiority established the black fact of superiority in running and fighting.

    Blacks also have an IQ 20-30 points below whites – causing young males to challenge the male dominance hierarchy as apex predators.

    FEED THE CHILDREN? — NOT ON YOUR LIFE – then they breed like roaches and burst their borders.

    WHAT HAVE WE DONE? — Sorry, but it is kill or be killed time, and not just in Europe. We could have left the Africans to perish in their own excrement… but CHRISTIANS… those idiots… kept proffering more cheeks.

    I root for Ebola. AIDS… anything to rid us of this plague

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    I root for Ebola. AIDS… anything to rid us of this plague
     
    Don't be a sissy. Go down to your local gun store, root for an AR-15, and start taking care of it yourself. Trust me, others will follow suit.
    , @Disordered
    To be fair, Christians also had that old Paul quote about "being kind to your slave", and the ideas of the guy who opposed Bartolome de las Casas in effectively arguing for race realism in Spain. That debate was won by the encomienda owners of Amerindians, to be fair; but even then the philosophical feeling of the Colonia caste system being good did not start to change until the Enlightenment reached the Spanish Bourbons and they started liberalizing - Napoleon's invasion was the other spark that set off the Latin American independence movements. So perhaps Christians are not to blame always for their cheek-turning, at least not in continental Europe as much as the more faith-based abolitionist movement in Northern Europe and the Anglosphere.

    Even then, you could say Christianity was integration-friendly originally, what with being born in the multi-culti milieu of the Roman empire that had just squashed the nation in which the Messiah was just killed. But precisely because later the papacy inherited the purple mantle of philosophical leader of the West, he in effect led the defense of the West alongside the monarchs he validated in their divine right. When the papacy in turn became full of institutional corruption and lost its immaculate moral power, the aforementioned Caesars recovered the mantle of defending their nations/races - the thing is, this in effect split the West (and whites really) into conflicting national interests, including imperial colonization of other peoples for power and money that eventually comes back to bite us (the Roman influence was too strong in this sense). Which wouldn't be a bad thing in theory, if the ultimate resolution of major Western national interests in 1945 didn't involve a complete reversal of roles, which has devolved into the current cuckery. Considering that by then most Western intellectuals believed in Marx more than in Jesus, we cannot entirely blame said cuckery on the Nazorean. "Turning the other cheek" has certainly had good and bad results (usually the interpreter forgets that turning the other cheek means not backing out, and was used in a religious sense), same as "needle through camel's eye"... lest we forget, however, how he mentioned "coming to bring a sword" and being "zealous for His Father[land]'s house"... a true and honest evaluation of Christianity would acknowledge that Christ was more complex than the one icon of the Lamb, and therefore his followers shouldn't be sheep...
    , @Okechukwu

    Blacks also have an IQ 20-30 points below whites – causing young males to challenge the male dominance hierarchy as apex predators.
     
    Pray tell, what "study" confirmed this? Seems to me I'm black and I'm smarter than you.

    I root for Ebola. AIDS… anything to rid us of this plague
     
    Speaking of plagues, your ancestors were nearly wiped out because they weren't smart enough to figure out that filth is deadly.
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    “WHO We Got Here”?

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  • Thanks to you and Piffer for providing this!

    I just downloaded the OSF files. GWAS_EA.to10K.txt appears to be missing. I assume it is the file at https://www.thessgac.org/data so downloaded from there.

    The file.choose mechanism is inconvenient for repeated runs. Would it be possible (I could do this if wanted) to include a small function which takes a binary flag (defined in a single place at the start of the file) and either calls file.choose or loads the default file? Here is a simple version if anyone wants it.

    choose.file <- function(filename, use.chooser=FALSE) {
    if (use.chooser) {
    file.choose()
    } else {
    filename
    }
    }

    use.chooser <- TRUE

    HGDP_CEPH=read.csv(choose.file("Lee_results_10k_final.csv", use.chooser), header=TRUE, sep = ";")#open HGDP-CEPH browser output with freqs from GWAS hits

    It might help readability (e.g. the second paragraph) to force line breaks in the output where desired. Adding two spaces at the end of the line does this in R Markdown (otherwise it merges successive lines).

    I found the first bar chart easier to read with “fig.height=8″ set.

    The other PGS results and correlations (see either the Rmd files or RPubs) are also very interesting.

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    res,

    could you, please, do me a favor and calculate the correlation between the population/nation Met allele frequencies of Mr. Piffer's following paper: https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/correlation-of-the-comt-val158met-polymorphism-with-latitude-and-a-hunter-gather-lifestyle-suggests-culturee28093gene-coevolution-and-selective-pressure-on-cognition-genes-due-to-climate.pdf

    https://2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/MetFrequency.jpg

    and Afrosapiens's IQ data instead of Lynn's IQ data, because I believe the correlation will be even stronger and will explain Piffer's contradictory finding: "Particularly interesting is the relatively low frequency of COMT in East Asian populations (range 0.22–0.30), which contrasts with their reported higher IQ (105)." - p. 169

    https://notpolitcallycorrect.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/ranking.png

    Source: https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/09/05/worldwide-iq-estimates-based-on-education-data/

    This is what I wrote a couple of months ago on this:

    If East Asians were not such hard-working students http://www.unz.com/freed/fun-with-iq-deep-thought/#comment-2095195 and were not performing so well on standardized IQ tests due to their studying habits th[e]n the global correlation between IQ and population COMT Met frequencies would be even higher, in my opinion:

    Correlation of the COMT Val158Met Polymorphism with Latitude and a Hunter-Gather Lifestyle Suggests Culture–Gene Coevolution and Selective Pressure on Cognition Genes Due to Climate

    Davide Piffer, Anthropological Science, July 31, 2013

    Thus, the global correlation between IQ and Met allele frequency is r = 0.579 and highly statistically significant (n = 38; P < 0.001). This supports the prediction that populations with higher Met allele frequency have higher IQ, similarly to the correlation observed at the individual level.

    – https://www.amren.com/news/2014/01/correlation-of-the-comt-val158met-polymorphism-with-latitude-and-a-hunter-gather-lifestyle-suggests-culture-gene-coevolution-and-selective-pressure-on-cognition-genes-due-to-climate/
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/time-to-stop-importing-an-immigrant-overclass/#comment-2118604

    I agree with Afrosapiens that Lynn has overestimated East Asian intelligence, and I believe that COMT Met is still the best genetic predictor of intelligence, even though some researchers like Emil Kirkegaard disagree:

    Just commented on this issue over in another Unz Review comments thread, Mr. Thompson, and how these emotional and genetic differences can even affect IQ test scores, etc., since stress-susceptibility is quite a significant moderating/confounding factor when it comes to stressful test taking conditions, in my opinion.
    [...]
    East Asians and Africans, on average, have a competitive advantage under stressful test taking conditions over Caucasians and Mexicans, etc. due to this, in my opinion.
    [...]
    Mr. Kirkegaard thinks that these are “More failed candidate gene ideas.”, but I believe he is jumping to premature conclusion, due to the reasons I stated above
     

    - https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-anatomy-of-melancholy/#comment-2124173

    In this video, the person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_Bronson interviewed claims/estimates that “worriers/strategists” have a 10 IQ point advantage over “warriors” in non-stressful situations/environments. - https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-anatomy-of-melancholy/#comment-2124219

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2_3RXmXoM8

    Thank you very much, res.

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  • David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • Does Prof. Reich really expect males from that second group to “embrace” their annihilation?

    Isn’t this a mute point with respect to the victims?

    I guess this is the Conan the Barbarian genetic phenomena.

    Finally we have a victim group that can’t be appeased.

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  • The concept of “cognitive capitalism” was used by Yann Boutang in 2008 (modern economies are becoming more knowledge based), but I first heard it used by Heiner Rindermann in a somewhat different sense: cognitive ability is the cause of wealth. Heiner’s earliest mention of it in the title of a paper is one which we...
  • @middle aged vet . . .
    Steve - I am not going to disagree with you and say you are wrong, I respect your statements and believe that you are sincere. Smarter people than me have been wrong about God for many more decades than I was.

    I have never believed in the "gods", although when I was young I thought of the ancient Roman gods with deep respect, based on the portraits of Vergilian dolphins on the plastic inflatable swimming pools of the day ("the day" being, roughly, summertime America 50 years ago, with lots of green trees and presumably lots of inflatable swimming pools, whether one lived near or far from the realm of Poseidon - for me, it was a 20 minute car ride to the ocean, but I did not own a car!!! sad, I loved the Ocean !!!!) , and based on the devastatingly accurate corn goddesses one often saw depicted, in beautifully wrought oak or pine woodwork, on the cuckoo clocks in rich people's houses, and based on the fleeting versions of Aphrodite and Apollo and Minerva one saw, depicted sculptures on the back of the stages of plays that almost everybody but me has mostly forgotten, on TV or at the local college theater, back in the day, or in other venues, maybe in the atrium of the college library or maybe on the local village green ....

    But I do believe in God, and I have no reason to believe that God does not need the help of people like you.

    He can do without my help, of course, I lived decades and decades thinking that I knew for certain, and was ok with that, that I could only know the silence of God, even though I knew who He was. But every once in a while I remembered those days when God looked at me with those innocent stupid eyes of His and with that unmatchable empathy of His which I now know is his trademark for most of us (days before I was born, maybe, or when I was uneducated, very uneducated, or days when I faced the prospect of likely death (only 30 or 40 days in my first four decades, but that is still a lot) or days when I faced the likelihood of chronic disease - well, the sort of days we all face, sooner or later) and then I remembered, with a start, that the silence was because I did not want to help Him as much as he would have liked me to. The silence was not because He wanted me to spend a moment thinking he could be silent! Not at all! He was innocent but not stupid, and his empathy was not just what I used to think of as empathy but it was a truth that I ought to have shared as best I could! And,at times, in my humble way, I did: as God is my witness, I tried. That was long ago, yesterday is so long ago to people like us, Steve, remembering the truths of mathematics and arithmetic.

    (What follows is a paragraph of run-on sentences. Please read those sentences, imagining how much better you could have written them: thanks....) It is no small thing to say I did not understand God until I understood that he needed my friendship -
    and it is no small thing to say that once I understood that I remembered every single human interaction I had ever had that demonstrated the truth that, in fact, not only did Adam and Eve and all that gang live real lives, long ago, but also the truth that I, and almost every one I will ever talk to, except them, is older than them, in their fantastic youth: well, once I understood that, I realized that Adam was no myth and Eve was no myth, they may not have felt much of a need to talk to me but if they only knew how many funny stories I could tell them about their grandchildren - well, you know how you go to a party and at first it is kind of awkward and an hour or two later everyone is talking as if they had been friends forever? Like I said, sometime you feel you knew them when they were a lot younger than they are. Memories and all that, and hope.

    Just saying. I have been wrong before. But come on, don't you remember a party that was that good, or almost that good?

    Frankly, I believe you have created a number of stories in your mind, and you indulge in variations and adaptations of those stories.

    Far be it from me to concern myself with what you believe and why you believe it.

    But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
    –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

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    • Replies: @middle aged vet . . .
    Thanks, Steve, for trying to understand. And thanks for the interesting responses.

    I am not going to ramble on here, but if you are interested, I have posted a couple hundred times as "Efim Polenov" at the Marginal Revolution blog, where I attempt to explain, again and again, in a kind-hearted and sometimes consciously foolish way, why intelligent scientists and scholars and honest citizens of our contemporary democratic world should at least feel some respect for those who claim to understand why, exactly why, we all know God loves us, even if we are ignoring that knowledge day to day (if you are a person interested in words, the Book of Proverbs, along with Isaiah, is the wonderful gentle place to which I subtly refer every single time, but it is my failing that it is not the whole Bible I refer to, every single time - Eliot was good on this intellectual (just kidding, "intellectual" is not the word that you want) type of lifelong references to books that are, as Schnabel said about musical compositions he liked, better than they can be played - Little Gidding, for example, which refers again and again to the letters of John the Apostle, when read with compassion for the poet's failings, explains lots of my basic rhetorical tricks in the referring-to-Proverbs-and-Isaiah way. It is kind of simple and not really complicated, but accurate, which is not nothing) .

    If you are not interested in how I explain everything, that is ok too. I have a couple dozen pals who long ago professed their vows as nuns or priests or contemplatives with vows of poverty and I will ask each and every one of them to pray for each of us to understand the world better. God loves us all. Cor ad cor loquitur, dixit Deus, septimo vespertino hora (heart speaks to heart, said God, in the evening hour of the seventh day)

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  • Unless it involves mocking President Trump’s supposedly “small hands,” there is nothing that horrifies our multiculturalist masters more than judging by appearances. It is impossible, they claim, to infer anything about how someone is likely to behave by their gender or because they are from a particular ethnic group. Everyone is unique (but also, somehow,...
  • @Kingfelix
    Nice theory, somewhat undermined by how butt-ugly just about all Americans are.

    Whenever I encounter Yanks in London I am always disappointed that they do not look like Brad Pitt

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  • David Reich [Email him] Professor of Genetics at Harvard, has published a book about ancient human DNA: Who We Are and How We Got Here. He heralded publication with a March 23rd New York Times op-ed [How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of ‘Race’ ] that got the chattering classes a-chattering and the sputtering classes...
  • @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you for the review, Mr. Derbyshire. After reading through "... are qualified to pass judgement", I was ready to look for this book. The latter portion of the review convinced me otherwise, so you saved me some time (not money because I'd have gotten it from the library). I think some bright people do not know how to correctly write to the level of the average reader that they expect. When you brought up the seeming contradiction between "3 populations" and "2 lineages", or what have you, and that you had to look back to get it straight, you gave an example of this. He should have thought during the writing that the readers would be confused and made it easier on them.

    You can,... find credentialed academics who will assure you that there is no such thing as sex...
     
    Sure, but that's usually just the guys in the math department.

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    Ah, old classics.

    But even back then I found that scene cringeworthy. The teenagers behaving like stupid arrogant brats. In that school, not much learning was being done. Might as well close the door.

    Little did I know that things would become worse in education.
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  • Reich thus becomes the genomic equivalent of Eric Turkheimer. Turkheimer became a well-recognized behavioral geneticist, going so far as to articulate the Laws of Behavioral Genetics, the 1st Law being that EVERY human trait is heritable to one degree or another. The 2nd Law is that genetic differences amongst people do more to explain differences in intelligence and personality traits than child-rearing differences or differences in the social environment. The main findings in the field are among the best replicated in the history of psychology.

    However, Turkheimer has spent much of his career trying to explain away the findings of behavioral genetics. In particular, he has claimed that the heritability of IQ among poorer children is low because of poor socioeconomic conditions. His work suggests that black IQ is depressed by these poor socioeconomic conditions although his own research did not have such a finding (which he never disclosed until he was called on it).

    Reich says that it is no longer tenable to say that there are no biological races, but he lashes out against (in his words) “the evils of racism and nationalism”, although he knows that there are differences across races in gene frequencies. He talks as if there isn’t any non-genomic evidence for racial differences when, in fact, intelligence researchers have discussed these differences for many years.

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  • Why is the book like this?

    Same old story. Galileo knew. Official Geo-centrism vs Empirical Helio-centrism.

    When it comes to evolutionary science, there is bio-centrism under attack from ideo-centrism.

    Reich is torn. He grew up under the Shoah Narrative that has become like a faith. It said German ‘Aryans’ believed in racial differences and waged wars and committed genocide. But good guys won and established that All Peoples are Equal. This is the faith of the West, as powerful as Geo-centrism in Galileo’s time. It was especially useful to Jews who were targeted by ‘Aryans’.

    And yet it was always an uneasy myth. After all, Germans feared Jews because they were ‘too smart’. Also, black athletes who demolished the ‘aryan’ myth of superiority established the black fact of superiority in running and fighting.

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    • Replies: @gustafus21
    Blacks also have an IQ 20-30 points below whites - causing young males to challenge the male dominance hierarchy as apex predators.

    FEED THE CHILDREN? -- NOT ON YOUR LIFE - then they breed like roaches and burst their borders.

    WHAT HAVE WE DONE? -- Sorry, but it is kill or be killed time, and not just in Europe. We could have left the Africans to perish in their own excrement... but CHRISTIANS... those idiots... kept proffering more cheeks.

    I root for Ebola. AIDS... anything to rid us of this plague
    , @Silva
    Yes, history shows that blacks are as much better at fighting than whites as they are at music:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHsmZy-YS8
    , @Seamus Day

    Germans feared Jews because they were ‘too smart’.
     
    Name one Jew you can mention in the same sentence as Kepler, Leibniz, Gödel, Frege, Weierstrass, Heisenberg, Riemann, Hilbert, Planck.

    Oh, yeah, Emmy Nother and the intellectual middleman, Albert Einstein, who borrowed from the relativity theory of Poincare and Lorentz and added slight amplifications. But hey, when you control the narrative Einstein is the greatest thinker in history and Maya Angelou is the greatest writer and poet.

    , @Currahee
    "the black fact of superiority in running and fighting"

    African armies may be musical, don't know; but they can't fight.
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  • Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    You can, as I pointed out when addressing AMERICAN RENAISSANCE conference last year, find credentialed academics who will assure you that there is no such thing as sex: that men and women are biologically indistinguishable. We live in an extraordinary time: a good portion of our intelligentsia is clinically insane.

    This actually isn’t very surprising. All through the ages, the idea threatened to usurp the reality that it was supposed to represent. Art also went from representing reality to usurping reality. Art came to represent art.

    It’s like what Gospel of John says about how there was first the Word.

    When reality is turned into ideas and when these ideas are treated as abstractions in an enclosed ivory tower, there is the danger of people forgetting about the crucial link between reality and ideas.

    This happened with Confucianism too. It began as a philosophy of life. But over time, it just turned into scholarship-for-scholarship’s sake.

    And with foot-binding, the IDEA of femininity overrode reality, the fact that feet are supposed to grow naturally.

    In the West, we have a lot of headbinding.

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    • Replies: @Disordered
    Agreed, though to be fair, in a way the idea is what makes us human, or rather, the fact that we can derive ideas from reality. Therefore, the Word is in practice first; the mistake is in forgetting that the Word is intrinsically connected to reality, as the speaker is connected to the listener. When we forget that, we either get head-bound with utopian ideas to avoid the world, or emptied and materialistically chained to ether grey reality.
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