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    The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
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    war – but then, sum up by blaming it on “The Joos.”
     
    exactly!

    if anything, the "Joos" are trying to stop all these wars!

    who came out strongest against the wars on Iraq, and then Libya and then Syria, if not the ((NYT))?!

    who has condemned the recent bombing of Syria, (over obvious lies about chemical attacks) if not Sheldon Adelson and bb Netanyahu!

    I mean come on, right?

    AIPAC has little to no influence in DC, but still that plucky little voice has been adamant that all of these wars are illegal, misguided and wrong.

    The Kagan 'cabal' (as some anti-Semites refer to them) have been demanding investigations into the contrived putsch (Yatz is our guy') in Ukraine, and all the lies about MH17!

    The entire Jewish media, from CNN to all the rest have been exposing the lies about these wars like no other! Look how they railed at Clinton for her role in Libya!

    But these tiresome anti-Semites will always look for an excuse for their own failures and failings, and it's not like we haven't seen this kind of scapegoat blaming before! When you're having difficulties, there's the temptation to always find some group to blame and spread blood libels, just as a certain mustached demagogue from history showed us all how it's done.

    It reminds me of those terrorists in Israel that never lose an opportunity to try to blame "The Joos" for all of their problems, so they attack Israel (on Passover!), and threaten to push her into the sea, demanding Hitlerian calls for genocide, like "The right of Return"!

    They may as well be building gas chambers and ovens with talk like that, and what does the world do?!

    they act all crybaby because a few terrorists got shot. Well what does these modern day Adolf Hitlers think the Jews are going to do when they demand The Right of Return / genocide?

    The Jews suffered the world to walk into those "showers" in the last century. You'll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again' this time around.

    From Palestinian terrorists, to neo-white supremacists like Ron Paul and PCR, pooh-poohing these wars, there's always someone looking for a group to blame for their own mediocrity and incompetence.

    You forgot that we goyim are all motivated by jealousy, too! ;)

    Ya wanna hear something utterly depressing? I was talking to a young lady who’s been working on some degree in nursing and she said that they were required to take an “ethics” class. Guess what the big issue was? Yup, “The” Holycaust!!!!

    Cheezus, the holycaust fanatics are everywhere. I mean everywhere and the layers of irony are piled on thick. You can bet your sore emerods that they weren’t discussing the “ethics” of making stuff like that up and brainwashing people with it 75 years after it was supposed to have occurred.

    The holocaust conspiracy theorists just never give up. They are obsessed; nutzo! Good grief.

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  • @peterAUS
    Pointless.

    People as Ms. Johnston should be thinking about the paradigm.

    In the current, this is what has been happening, is happening, and will be happening.
    That's the nature of it.

    Thinking about meaning of life, nature of work, (re)distribution of goods and services and such is the only way to make any difference.

    Otherwise, most of us will be serfs for the top 20 %, "managed" and, if necessary, "retired".

    That's the most likely future, actually.
    The mixture of new Ancient Egypt and Huxley's "New World Order". No slaves and order maintained, mostly, with a gloved hand.

    Working class has been fucked over and nobody was paying attention. On the contrary, the rest liked it.
    Now they are coming for the middle class, with gusto.

    Pleasant dreams.

    There’s blame to go around.
    The post-war history of American labor is of a movement with one strategy and double-down, double-down, double-down, ’till it went broke.
    There are two strategies labor needed to take and bears responsibility for failing at: 1) at about the time when it should have accepted that American laborers were getting a pretty good deal that could only be improved in the short-term by consuming the host, it should have shifted resources to bargain for the long-haul by moving for a German-style public corporate, corporate/labor model, namely where labor had a seat on the board, 2) rather than tunnel-vision resistance to free trade up to and until it simply lost in a total wash-out, it should have looked for alternative models to global trade, one of which has been on display : the British Commonwealth of Nations.
    If in 1975 American labor threw its strength behind those two long-term goals we would have a much different world today – one with much more prosperity, better distributed, and with less identity politics.
    On the right, well: the right seemed absolutely convinced that it could kill its opposition and nothing would replace it.
    You can of course kill your loyal opposition for the incremental pennies on the dollar back that its worth to you – but usually when you kill the loyal opposition its replaced by the disloyal opposition.

    When I go to places where American working class are still found – they still love America. Can’t say that for the left we have, which is the left that we have the Republican right to thank for.

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  • Keep your eye on ebay, theres one for 1974 George Washington Carver Jr High School Yearbook – Los Angeles CA for $24.99

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-George-Washington-Carver-Jr-High-School-Yearbook-Original-Los-Angeles-CA/152521876258?hash=item2383032322:g:YVIAAOSw3ZRY~MFm

    One for 1961 George Washington High School San Francisco, California for $50

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Surveyor-1961-George-Washington-High-School-Yearbook-San-Francisco-Califor/131464439669?hash=item1e9be42775:m:mWuqyPNz8sy5i6JMIUD00VQ

    Not the one your’re looking for, but sooner or later I’m sure one will pop up, I’ve seen several over the years at garage sales and estate sales going all the way back to the 50′s. I’ll try and look out for one when I’m on Ebay.

    Even if you did have the book, there would still be the crowd doubting you. Pretty much everyone I’ve ever talked to knows the official story is a lie.

    Anyone with a brain can watch the videos and tell the buildings were blown up with demolition charges. The plane or no plane thing is just something to distract from that. I personally don’t think planes hit the Pentagon or crashed into the farm in Penn.

    It really doesn’t matter until we get some people in charge of America that aren’t corrupt traitors, that actually care about the country, not just about the money or their political career, they have all the info. right now as we speak. They could release it tomorrow if they wanted. The fact that they haven’t tells me that who did it is still in charge of things, and we all know who is pulling the strings in DC. They openly brag about it routinely.

    The energy beam weapon theories, no planes theories are put out there to poison the well, so the MSM can get on TV and say something like:
    “The conspiracy theorist nutjobs believe 9/11 was an inside job and used Star Wars death star beams to blow up the WTC!”
    This makes the whole thing look stupid to the brainwashed zombies, they put theories like these out there just for this purpose..
    David Icke thinks Elites are lizard people, so he is clearly put out there to make people who doubt the official story look like loons too.
    Same with the flat earth crowd, obviously.
    James Corbett, Christopher Bollyn seem ok from what I’ve seen.

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  • Am I alone in thinking that the on-line version may well be a true rendition of the original hard copy yearbook, and that the multi-layer confusion surrounding her appearance therein is one of the features that made the “Betty Ong” persona attractive to anyone who needed to create an identity?

    That, after all is exactly what identity creators do. They scour birth/death records, school yearbooks, etc looking for a person who was really born, but who’s official life history goes murky/disappears, thus creating a tabula rasa on which to paint the new identity’s life history.

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  • @anonymous
    looks the same, graduated at the same time, cannot be identified as a different person

    My thoughts exactly. She look very similar to me, although I will freely admit that my judgment in this regard may be off. Maybe it wasn't even a typo. Maybe it was entered in the yearbook that way for some very trivial, as of yet unknown reason. Maybe the different spelling is actually a conspiracy in itself. I don't know what the answer is, and I don't know that anyone has ever even looked into it.

    I just find it amazing that other commenters here are suggesting that the idea that her name may have been spelled slightly differently in some old yearbook (for whatever reason) is ludicrous, crazy, outlandish nonsense that is completely outside the realm of possibility, while the simpler and more likely conclusion is that she never really existed, and is in reality part of a huge, highly elaborate, multilayered conspiracy involving dozens, possibly hundreds of people. All of the people in on the conspiracy are perfectly fine with being complicit in the murder of thousands of innocent Americans for unexplained reasons. Not a single one of these people ever comes forward. Ever.

    Maybe it was entered in the yearbook that way for some very trivial, as of yet unknown reason.

    That’s a stretch, given that both Betty Ng and Betty Ong are in the yearbook and that the yearbook’s names would have been transcribed from the school’s official student roll.

    Did the student roll contain two names for one person?
    If it did:
    Are there two transcripts? Are they the same, or different?
    Did they participate in the same, or different extracurricular clubs, associations, etc?
    Did that person get 2 graduation diplomas?

    IOW, if Betty Ng is, in fact Betty Ong then things can get weird very quickly.

    As for:

    She look very similar to me, although I will freely admit that my judgment in this regard may be off.

    … the latter half of the statement would appear to be much closer to the mark than the former. FWIW, I’ve been living in Asia for a decade, and to my eye they’re not even close. 8 or 9 years ago, I probably would’ve agreed with you.

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  • @utu
    Sorry I engaged you. I forgot you are an idiot after all.

    It takes an idiot, like you, to recognize another fucking idiot, like sean.

    Both of you are also pathetic liars and trolls.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @SolontoCroesus

    The New England Puritans frowned on violence as a way of resolving social conflicts.
     
    ha

    Ask Hester Prynne.

    Puritans had a keen sense of psychological violence.
    It's still violence.
    The mouthpieces of god who mandated that violence still operated on the proposition, "Damn it, I am in charge."

    Interesting that quote is what stood out to me as well. The Puritans could be some sadistic SOBs by what I understand of their history. Their treatment of their fellow “Christians” including Quakers was a bit creative and not exactly gentle.

    Here’s someone commenting on their furious nuttiness.:

    The Puritans are almost always portrayed as a peaceful and persecuted bunch, but they were a very revolutionary, seditious, and violent people.:

    England was plunged into an environment of Puritan blood rage and unreasonable fundamentalism. In the words of Hume, “fanaticism had its own language, it was a new jargon invented by the fury and hypocrisy of the times.” The Puritans wanted “No king, no nobility,” and like every leftists or progressive, the Puritans wanted “universal equality.” To use the words of Hume, “it was, in short, necessary to fanaticize the people with notions of perfect equality, to assure the obedience of the masses, and gradually to form a coalition against the monarchy.”

    http://shoebat.com/2014/11/03/puritans-just-violent-muslims/

    Another source wrote this. (Sorry no link)

    The Puritans wanted to be free to establish a “Christian” theocracy. (A perverted one complete with Indian extermination, communist principles, a police state…)

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  • @redmudhooch
    Oops, forgot the video, Watch this video at 4:20, 5:40, 6:40
    Those are explosions, below the falling top, even the reporters agree!

    https://youtu.be/qhyu-fZ2nRA

    Regrettably, I have fallen into the habit of referring to the explosions as collapses even though I’ve known almost from the beginning that explosives caused the buildings to be destroyed. I shall take greater care to no longer do so.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I would encourage you not to despise the good will of citizens, even when it is irritating. I appreciate your service. I honor your sacrifice in Vietnam and millions of S. Vietnamese respect what you and your fellows did on their behalf. We generally assume that you served honorably, if not that is a matter for you to rest with your conscience.


    I want to encourage you to embrace whatever blessings citizens can and are willing to bestow -- even if in the main said bequeathed is obtuse and annoying. No one wants to insult vets, well few anymore and no one can immediately heal the wounds of an ungrateful and vastly misinformed citizenry on the issue of Vietnam. But I like to encourage you to let them try and embrace it the same -----


    excuse or not my well intentioned comments. I tell me father repeatedly, "Appreciate your service" he too served in Vietnam and elsewhere.


    so great a sacrifice none can repay . . .

    What does it mean to “serve honorably” in an unjust war of aggression? The only “honorable” action is to refuse orders.

    I know, I know….You are incapable of seeing Vietnam as anything but an honorable endeavor from the charitable US govt. lol.

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  • @lack of meaning
    I had the chance to speak with many american veterans of the Vietnam war in the 70`s . There was the draft ot the time .

    Many of them came back very sick , abuse of alcohol , drugs , postraumatic stress disorder , they committed genocides against civilians , they felt guilty , they " fragged " , they were demoralized , they felt their country had betrayed them ...

    Many of them told me that the worse was that after a time in Vietnam they did nor see the meaning of the war , some of them told me : well if those f.... gooks want to be communists , let them be communists , I do not understand them , who am I or my country to tell them what to do , after all if communism is a shitty system let them eat shit , and at the end if it is a good system we will copy them , but what the hell are we doing there ....

    The war of Vietnam was a big defeat fot the USA in the peak of its power at the hands ot a little
    backwarded country , a military defeat , a moral defeat , a human defeat , an economical defeat ( except for the vultures who got rich with the war )

    If Bacevich ( nice Russian name tovarich , privet ) defends the draft , or the arab wars , he has not learned anything fron the Vietnam war , and I am affraid from none of the arab wars , habibi .

    SHAME ON YOU…”lack of meaning”
    YOU and your ilk are responsible for perpetuating the “Vietnam Veteran” stereotype in which YOU paint all of us with a very broad brush. For your information, almost ALL of us Vietnam veterans came back with sound minds to an ungrateful country and quietly resumed our lives without incident or fanfare. The promised government jobs that were mandated into law for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. YOU are of the same ilk as traitor “Hanoi” Jane Fonda who gave “aid and comfort” to the enemy while our POWS were (and are) still in captivity. Very few returning Vietnam veterans had problems…the stereotype that YOU claim…is totally false.
    I notice that you have swallowed the standard “loss of Vietnam” lies hook line and sinker. Americans and South Vietnamese prevailed in every battle…bar none. In fact, TET 1968 was a decisive victory for the South s the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces were decimated. Of course, the American “mainstream media” claimed it was a victory for the communists.
    For your information, the American Vietnam war was not a “civil-war” but was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese, who wanted control of the whole country. The INVASION was allowed to continue when American troops left and South Vietnamese troops were not resupplied.
    YOU must have watched the Ken Burns’ “schlockumentary” on Vietnam, in which he built up the North Vietnamese while exacting harsh criticism (lies) on the American and South Vietnamese troops. Of course, to his credit, Burns “let it slip” that the “re-education camps” contrary to communist claims (actually prisons) would be in operation for approximately six months after the war was over–it turns out that many former South Vietnamese were “detained” for as long as twenty years.
    Post-war Vietnam was so wonderful, tens of thousands of “boat people risked life and limb to escape that “communist paradise” [silence].

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  • Anon[674] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris Mallory

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.
     
    In other words "To take their stuff". Why else have a "puppet regime"?

    The purposes of America’s fake wars are not complex. Its the desire of adolescents to be war heroes, ie the American version of the medieval saint, plus a lot of cowboy excitement from shooting off lots of guns and missiles. Add in the vast amounts of money and prestige the military engenders in adolescent or pubescent American society, and you end up with a gigantic bureaucracy desperate with the need for war, and the ability to create as many wars as it wants via its ownership of the media and political system. What happens to the invaded and regime changed victim country is largely irrelevant, as by that time the American war machine, grossly obese like everything else in America, has moved on to its next theater of excitement and thrills.

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  • Y. V. says:

    I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior than I do about Islamic terrorism.

    ”China has thoroughly studied the Western technique of getting out of crises via controllable armed conflicts and wars. It has written its own script for squeezing the United States off the world stage. The Western script becomes an episode in a larger game.”

    Contents of the script:

    - while remaining inactive and all but invisible, China retains and replenishes its resources;

    - China supports actions of the West aimed at mutually assured destruction of Russia and the Muslim world;

    - China supports bilateral conflicts in line with the Western script;

    - China becomes ideologically active and active in the military sense when the moment is ripe;

    - when the conflicts are over, China moves into the new territories…

    The global conclusion is simple. This is the first time strategic interests of the West, Russia, Israel, and the Muslim world coincide. We can only survive together.

    [MORE]

    Under the unfolding script, all of us are victims. China has already won, strategically and tactically.

    The test is plain – we will sink or swim together. The new global Chinese order will follow the rules the Americans drew up for themselves. What counts is that the “golden billion” of the world’s population alone will prosper; the remaining 4 billion are expendable. Unlike the United States, to say nothing of the Russians or Jews, China has this billion already. All of us are expendable in this wicked colonial system of distribution of resources.

    Proposals:

    1. All efforts, including from the elite of international finance, should be made to stop the war.

    2. Russia should become the real leader of the new process. (It has already become it but not yet aware of the fact.) The West and Israel need a strategic alliance with the Muslim world more than anything else, and this alliance is possible only through Russia. Only Russia in an alliance with the Muslim world can keep China in check without conflicts, helping it find its new place in the world as another super-power.

    3. Leaders of Russia, America, Israel, Europe, Iran, India, and international financial capitals must initiate a dialogue over leaving this crisis behind and preventing events like those which swept America on September 11.

    A time of change is upon us, and it’s futile to wish we were living in some other era. We have to change ourselves and change the world.”

    THE WESTERN SCRIPT

    Using techniques of manipulating public opinion, the West is trying to establish the illusion of a global forces with the fascist- like ideology of Wahhabi fundamentalism. As far as the West is concerned, Wahhabi and Islam are the same thing. It is because of this that the essential terrorism of Wahhabi ideas is being formulated so simply for public consumption: all Muslims are terrorists by nature.

    The preliminary objective of brainwashing (Islam is the basis of terrorism) is thus achieved. Therefore, the terrorist world of Islam should be maneuvered into fighting Russia. Russia and the Muslim world will destroy each other, and the West will gain access to the natural resources on their territories. The dollar pyramid will straighten once again, and the economic crisis will be over. Life goes on.

    Apart from the need to shock the international community with atrocities of Islamic terrorists, this script requires the presence of some country fundamental for this particular global force. It should answer the following requirements: a large Muslim population, government based on military dictatorship (which allows prompt replacement of the leader); borders with Russia, China, and India; nuclear arsenals; and a well-trained army with combat experience. Pakistan is an ideal fit, and Afghanistan is just a capsule.

    Continuation of the script after the terrorist attacks in the United States: retaliatory strikes at Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, and so on, depending on the situation. A dramatic rise in anti-American sentiments throughout the Muslim world as a result. A coup in Pakistan, leading to the rise of a radical Wahhabi leader there. Unification of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    A Taliban invasion of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan will follow. Conflicts with Iran and Iraq will follow. The second phase of preferable armed conflicts is as follows: Iran and Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Turkey and Greece, Georgia and Abkhazia, China and Taiwan, North Korea and South Korea, Israel and Palestine, and escalation of the situation in Chechnya. Russia will inevitably find itself dragged into some war or other, and declare general mobilization. Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, and some other ethnic republics will refuse to go to war under those circumstances. The rest of the population of Russia will also object. All this may result in a drastic destabilization in Russia, and a loss of control. Things may even reach extremes, ending in a military coup or disintegration of the Russian Federation.

    However, some details indicate that this particular script has bogged down. The world is different now. In the past, it was sufficient to torch the Reichstag or assassinate a prince; but now, even the horrors of September 11 no longer suffice.

    That is why some sort of “fuel” is needed to give the script momentum – terrorist attacks on the scale of September 11, but not in America alone. Over there, in Europe, and in Russia as well. Anthrax is just a prelude. Controllable terrorism, however, has its own limits. Russia knows, for example, that “Chechen terrorists” will no longer suffice. After all, linking them to Islam is fairly difficult.

    But even that is not the key point. Certain indirect aspects indicate that the script considered here is not the only one. Most probably, it is not even the whole script, just part of an even larger one. In accordance with the latter, Russia and the Muslim world fighting each other are not the only objectives. The West and Israel are too. It follows that some unknown Contractor and Player must be present somewhere. This script becomes possible when we assume that some Western elites and secret services made a kind of covert pact with this still-unknown Player.”

    #14
    Novaya Gazeta
    No. 75
    October 2001
    THE THIRD FORCE OF WORLD WAR III (excerpts, emphasis added)

    http://www.russialist.org/archives/5497-14.php

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  • Trump pulled the trigger, but instead of a “bang!” what the world heard was a demure “click”. Considering that we are talking about playing a most dangerous game of potentially nuclear Russian AngloZionist roulette, the “click” is very good news indeed. But, to use the words of Nikki Haley, the US “gun” is still “locked...
  • @SteveM

    Frankly, the development of the Polish political system towards a totalitarian repressive regime doesn’t surprise me in the least.
     
    The Poles are no more "totalitarian" and "repressive" than the Russians. They have an open society with free elections. They are nationalists fully aware of their history with Moscow. Painting the Poles as crypto-fascists is insulting and condescending. Floating that kind of bile only aggravates the relationship between the two countries/cultures.

    I'm not saying that the Poles' interpretation of current Russian foreign policy is accurate. But it's up to the Poles and Russians to collectively work that out over time.

    The MASSIVE impediment to a productive and peaceful rapprochement between Poland and Russia is the Global Cop Gorilla in Washington that loves to stir the pot of conflict for its own ego's sake.

    P.S. I'm thinking the catalyst for improved relations between Poland and Russia would be visible exchanges between the Polish Catholic Primate and the Russian Orthodox Patriarch. Being brothers in Christ in what is largely a Post-Christian Europe should transcend political boundaries.

    Painting the Poles as crypto-fascists is insulting and condescending.

    Don’t say.

    Being brothers in Christ in what is largely a Post-Christian Europe should transcend political boundaries.

    Whoah…..
    Orthodox and Catholic, together, in Eastern Europe.
    Stunned.

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  • @Cold N. Holefield
    Chuck Orloski,

    There's no doubt J.R. is highly intelligent and incredibly thorough & comprehensive. I like how he even corrected my hyperbole to Keep it Honest. I respect that.

    I guess I was a bit taken aback because it appeared he was taking me the wrong way. I respect the work he's done on this and his thinking on this. I wasn't trying to attack him or impugn him in any way.

    Terrific literary “screen name” pun, Cold N. Holefield! Thanks!
     
    Thank you. Catcher In The Rye is an excellent book, and the fact that various Freaks like Mark David Chapman and John Hinckley were so drawn to it has always intrigued me. As well, the messaging in that book is Spot On. Everyone, or most everyone, is a Phoney. Or, It's All Lies.

    Sweet dreams are made of this
    Who am I to disagree?
    I travel the world and the seven seas
    Everybody's looking for something

    Some of them want to use you
    Some of them want to get used by you
    Some of them want to abuse you
    Some of them want to be abused
     

    Cold N. Holefield wrote reflectively:
    “There’s no doubt J.R. is highly intelligent and incredibly thorough & comprehensive. I like how he even corrected my hyperbole to Keep it Honest. I respect that.”

    Hi “Catcher,”

    I like the way you think and how you exhibit signs of having “thick skin” with some people’s lack thereof.

    Strong minds & personalities, it’s too bad Jon & Ron are currently reacting as acid & base on this very “unspeakable” 9/11 matter. *

    Thanks, Cold N. Holefield!

    *The late-Thomas Merton wrote about President JFK’s absolute need for having “thick skin,” due to ruthless pressures being brought to bear by what the Trappist monk deigned as “UNSPEAKABLE” (domestic) warmongering forces.

    P.S.:
    I like the song-lyric you featured but for the life of me, my foot tapped, but I can’t recall the title name & original artist. At first, I considered Dylan’s “The Mighty Quinn (the Eskimo).”

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  • @Seamus Day

    I have more than you have, a man who lived in NYC and saw it happen.
     
    A friend of my mom’s who lives in Arlington, VA, called right after the news from the WTC was breaking, and smoke was coming from what the news thought was from the Capitol, and she was crying and told my mom that see just saw a plane fly into the Pentagon. I was there when my mom took the call.

    No plane hit the Pentagon, unless you believe in The Incredible Shrinking Plane, one that leaves a much smaller hole than its actual size when it crashes.

    “They shall find it difficult, they who have taken authority as truth rather than truth as authority.”

    Gerald Massey.

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  • @Rick Johnson
    As a Vietnam War vet, I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: "Thank you for your service."

    How do they know what kind of service I rendered? Was it honorable or dishonorable? Did I perform my duties or just drink booze and chase the native women? Most of us serving did a little bit of all of the foregoing.

    But methinks the Col. doesn't understand Trump and his followers. The worldwide transition of values and forces will hasten immanent events that will rock the post-war foundations is ongoing, but not elevated up to the public consciousness yet. Stay tuned. April showers bring May flowers.

    April showers bring May flowers.

    If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    the lazy bum Revusky
     
    Utu, you pathetic dumbass... by your logic, if you took your car to a mechanic specifically for an oil change, and he did just that, changed the oil, he would be a "lazy bum" because he did not take the opportunity to rebuild your car's engine!

    The wager with Unz was specifically about whether Betty Ong was in the appropriate high school yearbook. To say that I'm lazy because I resolved that question and didn't go further makes no sense really.

    Now, granted, as the scriptures say, out of the mouths of dumbasses can come words of wisdom, so you do make a valid point about hiring a private investigator. Assuming one really did want to resolve the Betty Ong question thoroughly, I guess that is what one would do -- as opposed to insisting that I, somebody who is not any sort of professional investigator, do it.

    So, yes, I would be perfectly happy if Ron hired a PI to do just that. However, he really ought to pay off on this wager to me first.

    Have you considered putting a classified ad in a local paper or a listing on Craig’s List in the Bay Area offering a reward for a hard copy of the yearbook? I would think that $500 would flush one out, assuming one still exists.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.

    I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.

    The best way to “ameliorate the primary dynamic in question” is to mandate that the arrogant DC nitwits read the foreign policy sections of George Washington’s Farewell Address first thing every day. Have C-SPAN televise the reading every day that Congress is in session.

    Then maybe those militarist clowns will eventually put 2 and 2 together without the need to draft American citizens into militarized slavery.

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  • @Sean
    According to Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying In International Politics by John J. Mearsheimer (Oxford University Press) Lying isn't necessary, useful or even possible most of the time.
    A False Flag 9/11 would require total mastery of US government, intelligence security, police, and most crucially the army, which could always stage a coup. It just isn't that easy to be make a selfish penguin conspiracy work. A nation state is not as sophisticated as a bunch on penguins.

    I apologize for my earlier comment where I thought we were in agreement.
    Oxford University? They couldn’t POSSIBLY be in on it, could they?? THEM, INSIDERS??
    And that was quite a gem,
    ‘A nation state is not as sophisticated as a bunch of penguins.’
    I’m beginning to think you are indeed yourself a penguin, and good for you.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Dr. X

    What Happens When a Few Volunteer and the Rest Just Watch?
     
    ...the volunteers become mercenaries for Israel.

    If Jews direct our military forces for their nefarious ends these Jews must be incompetent halfwits. How did making Iraq an Iranian client benefit Israel? Did the Libyan failure benefit Israel? Is the Syrian/Russian/Iranian state a boon to Israel? Maybe Israel should try something else.

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  • @Ronald Thomas West

    "Thucydides’s famed .. “The strong do what they will, while the weak suffer what they must.”"
     
    Well, colonel, in case of Thucydides, I'd go with “Their judgment was based more upon blind wishing than upon any sound pre-vision; for it is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not fancy” pointing to human nature hasn't changed one bit, bringing up the more apropos:

    “The extension of the empire has meant the growth of private fortunes. This is nothing new, indeed it is in keeping with the most ancient history” -Gaius Asinius Gallus (from Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome)

    Meanwhile, under the terms of our military system, attention to how this money actually gets spent by our yet-to-be-audited Pentagon tends to be — to put the matter politely — spotty
     
    Just come out and say "Criminal." Or, look at whose books THE PENTAGON is auditing:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/30/usaid-in-central-africa/

    The legal profession exists to implement the rule of law. We hope that the result is some approximation of justice
     
    Colonel, we haven't had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947. What we have is called "color of law." You might wish to study up on that:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/12/01/the-oath-and-the-trash-bin/

    I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior than I do about Islamic terrorism. And I worry more about changing weather patterns here in New England or somebody shutting down the electrical grid in my home town than I do about what Beijing and Moscow may be cooking up
     
    That's just oymoronish stupid (typo?) because it's our military and intelligence agencies combined behavior, inclusive of radicalizing Islam and setting it loose in Western China and Russia's Caucus, is no small reason for those rising giants looking at us like we're rabid dogs. BTW if you're really worried about the grid going down, well, you might have a look at EMP:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/10/14/devolution-part-1/

    As for:

    "The generals who followed one another in presiding over that war are undoubtedly estimable, well-intentioned men..."
     
    The colonel is just flat out wrong; and I don't give a rat's a** if I was a mere sergeant and Bacevich was a colonel, because I went on to work in the trenches investigating corruption and the colonel went to the la-la-land of the ivory tower. Here's the real score:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/05/26/counterfeit-coin/

    All in all, the colonel's article is a fail.

    Colonel Bacevich is only playing the devil’s advocate, and, in a diplomatic manner, showing the contradictions between the “official” military agenda and the reality of today’s world.

    If the US was ruled with the interests of its people and servicemen in mind, it would not be engaged in endless and unwinnable wars. But the NeoCons imperial elite don’t care, as they don’t have skin in the game, unlike the military (Colonel Bacevich lost his only son in Iraq).

    The fate of an Empire is demise, because it is ruled by the few, who don’t care about reality, until this reality engulfs them.
    Patriots try to stop such demise by the modest , realistic means available to them: enlightening people.

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Anonymous

    I picked up somewhere that Betty Ong went to George Washington High on 32nd Avenue
     
    Perhaps someone decided after the fact to connect Betty Ong with the WRONG high school as a diversionary psyop, and created "supporting" material to keep this diversion afloat as long as possible.

    Since a considerable number of people actually died on 9/11, it is not clear why someone would have to invent a FICTITIOUS individual to hang the phone dialogues on.

    The fiction has to be contrived prior to the actual event taking place so that media can all parrot the same lines and how the BBC came to report the collapse of WTC7 prior to its actual collapse. This is also why media announces the names and pictures of the so called perpetrators long before any real investigation has commenced and, more importantly, to derail any inconvenient facts that might emerge prior to the entire media being corralled.

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  • In March 2003, Pat Buchanan wrote a groundbreaking article entitled "Whose War?" in opposition to the Bush Administration fueled growing hysteria over Saddam Hussein’s alleged weapons of mass destruction which was producing demands for an armed intervention to disarm him. Buchanan rightly identified a number of prominent Jewish officials and journalists closely tied to the...
  • @tac
    Right on Rurik ....

    I am not sure if you'd seen the latest hit jobs by the Guardian and BBC on prominent social media/twitter voices who challenge the official narratives, but here it is in this thread (follow the subsequent comments as well:

    http://www.unz.com/article/tracing-the-rush-to-war/#comment-2296924

    thanks tac,

    we live in Abusurdistan

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @SolontoCroesus
    you really should have put a warning atop that photo.

    mea culpa sir

    mea culpa

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  • @Bill Jones
    The Official Version of 9/11 goes something like this…

    Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, ( This well appointed Suite http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/nether_fictoid3.htm according to the London Times): nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah…

    Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes…

    And hangover or not, they manage to give the world’s most sophisticated air defense system the slip…

    Unfazed by leaving their “How to Fly a Passenger Jet” guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely…

    Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two… and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically – through their own mass – at free-fall speed, for the first time in history.

    Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground… only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI…

    …Meanwhile down in Washington…

    Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing…

    Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little…

    Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world’s most heavily defended building…

    …all without a single shot being fired…. or ruining the nicely mowed lawn… and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video…

    …Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania…

    So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later…

    And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, it crashes into a Shankesville field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants… except for the standard issue Muslim terrorists bandana…

    …Further south in Florida…

    President Bush, our brave Commander-in-Chief continues to read “My Pet Goat” to a class full of primary school children… shrugging off the obvious possibility that his life could be in imminent danger…

    …In New York…

    World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously…

    While back in Washington, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shake their heads in disbelief at their own luck in getting the ‘New Pearl Harbor’ catalyzing event they so desired to pursue their agenda of world domination…

    And finally, not to be disturbed too much by reports of their own deaths, at least seven of our nineteen suicide hijackers turn up alive and kicking in mainstream media reports…

    And If you don’t believe this, you are a conspiracy theorist.

    You reminded me of the 5 min video by James Corbett:

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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • @Vojkan
    Israel can exist without the USA. Nukes are a pretty good life insurance. How it would fare without US taxpayers' money is another matter. You should bear in mind though that Jews rule the banks, the media, the entertainment, the justice, and the education in the whole Western world, not only in the US.

    Nukes aren’t defensive weapons and couldn’t be used to stop an invasion. Israel could be invaded and taken down much more quickly than any of its neighbors. Only having a defender like the US has allowed Israel to survive this long.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Rick Johnson
    As a Vietnam War vet, I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: "Thank you for your service."

    How do they know what kind of service I rendered? Was it honorable or dishonorable? Did I perform my duties or just drink booze and chase the native women? Most of us serving did a little bit of all of the foregoing.

    But methinks the Col. doesn't understand Trump and his followers. The worldwide transition of values and forces will hasten immanent events that will rock the post-war foundations is ongoing, but not elevated up to the public consciousness yet. Stay tuned. April showers bring May flowers.

    I would encourage you not to despise the good will of citizens, even when it is irritating. I appreciate your service. I honor your sacrifice in Vietnam and millions of S. Vietnamese respect what you and your fellows did on their behalf. We generally assume that you served honorably, if not that is a matter for you to rest with your conscience.

    I want to encourage you to embrace whatever blessings citizens can and are willing to bestow — even if in the main said bequeathed is obtuse and annoying. No one wants to insult vets, well few anymore and no one can immediately heal the wounds of an ungrateful and vastly misinformed citizenry on the issue of Vietnam. But I like to encourage you to let them try and embrace it the same —–

    excuse or not my well intentioned comments. I tell me father repeatedly, “Appreciate your service” he too served in Vietnam and elsewhere.

    so great a sacrifice none can repay . . .

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    What does it mean to "serve honorably" in an unjust war of aggression? The only "honorable" action is to refuse orders.

    I know, I know....You are incapable of seeing Vietnam as anything but an honorable endeavor from the charitable US govt. lol.
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  • The current series of railroad strikes in France are portrayed in the media as “labor unrest”, a conflict between the government and trade union leaders, or as a temporary nuisance to travelers caused by the self-interest of a privileged category of workers. In Anglo-American media, there is the usual self-satisfied tongue-clicking over “those cheese-eaters, always...
  • I hope that French society has a sense of solidarity and won’t be taken apart by Schadenfreude like American society where worsening of somebody’s social position like that of unionized workers is always cheered by the rest of society. However in American rich are excluded form this treatment. They are always admired and everybody wishes them to become richer and richer.

    Somebody did a job on Americans and the suckers do not have a clue.

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Sean
    I don't know anything "FOR SURE" and neither do you. No one in this world does because no one may have absolute verification of data, no matter how loudly and persistently they call for it. It is not empirically verifiable that a Brotherhood of the Bell type organisation (Skull and Bones according to Anthony P. Sutton ) does not deliberately create enemies such as Hitler and Stalin all the better to forment war and control America. Nor is it "for sure" that anyone died in 9/11, which may have been staged by the cia chief two presidents and a senator Bonesmen Bush clan, maybe the victims were not 100% veritably real people because 9/11 never actually happened.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulf_War_Did_Not_Take_Place

    The essays in Libération and The Guardian were published before, during and after the Gulf War and they were titled accordingly: during the American military and rhetorical buildup as "The Gulf War Will not take Place"; during military action as "The Gulf War is not Taking Place", and after action was over, "The Gulf War Did Not Take Place".
     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality#Simulacrum
    In his work Simulacra and Simulation, Baudrillard argues the "imaginary world" of Disneyland magnetizes people inside and has been presented as "imaginary" to make people believe that all its surroundings are "real". But he believes that the Los Angeles area is not real; thus it is hyperreal. Disneyland is a set of apparatuses which tries to bring imagination and fiction to what is called "real". This concerns the American values and way of life in a sense and "concealing the fact that the real is no longer real, and thus of saving the reality principle."[19]

    "The Disneyland imaginary is neither true or false: it is a deterrence machine set up in order to rejuvenate in reverse the fiction of the real. Whence the debility, the infantile degeneration of this imaginary. It's meant to be an infantile world, in order to make us believe that the adults are elsewhere, in the "real" world, and to conceal the fact that real childishness is everywhere, particularly among those adults who go there to act the child in order to foster illusions of their real childishness."
     

     
    Its possible at the centre of the huddle of south pole Emperor penguins is always the same bunch of free riders, and a secret organisation running the USA stays in power whatever happens.

    ‘Its possible at the centre of the huddle of south pole Emperor penguins is always the same bunch of free riders, and a secret organisation running the USA stays in power whatever happens.’

    We seem to be in agreement. And though I certainly don’t claim to be absolutely sure, the latter part of the above statement can only conceivably be absolutely true–all evidence in daily life confirms it, if one pays attention, as certainly do the farcicle elections every year or so, as does common sense when you ask yourself, Do I have ANY political power, any whatsoever? What about my state? Or town for that matter? How can we all possibly be ever in lock step with master’s agenda, shit and puked out 24/7 right into our brains?

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  • Trump pulled the trigger, but instead of a “bang!” what the world heard was a demure “click”. Considering that we are talking about playing a most dangerous game of potentially nuclear Russian AngloZionist roulette, the “click” is very good news indeed. But, to use the words of Nikki Haley, the US “gun” is still “locked...
  • @EugeneGur
    Thanks for the information. I was wondering what happened to Dr. Pisorski after he was arrested more than a years ago, I think, on ridiculous charges of spying for Russia, and I believe China (!) was also mentioned. As ridiculous as it gets.

    Frankly, the development of the Polish political system towards a totalitarian repressive regime doesn't surprise me in the least. A rabidly nationalistic stance with extreme hostility towards any deviation from the official viewpoint in the interpretation of the historic or political events was to lead to repressions - this was inevitable.

    Frankly, the development of the Polish political system towards a totalitarian repressive regime doesn’t surprise me in the least.

    The Poles are no more “totalitarian” and “repressive” than the Russians. They have an open society with free elections. They are nationalists fully aware of their history with Moscow. Painting the Poles as crypto-fascists is insulting and condescending. Floating that kind of bile only aggravates the relationship between the two countries/cultures.

    I’m not saying that the Poles’ interpretation of current Russian foreign policy is accurate. But it’s up to the Poles and Russians to collectively work that out over time.

    The MASSIVE impediment to a productive and peaceful rapprochement between Poland and Russia is the Global Cop Gorilla in Washington that loves to stir the pot of conflict for its own ego’s sake.

    P.S. I’m thinking the catalyst for improved relations between Poland and Russia would be visible exchanges between the Polish Catholic Primate and the Russian Orthodox Patriarch. Being brothers in Christ in what is largely a Post-Christian Europe should transcend political boundaries.

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    Painting the Poles as crypto-fascists is insulting and condescending.
     
    Don't say.

    Being brothers in Christ in what is largely a Post-Christian Europe should transcend political boundaries.
     
    Whoah.....
    Orthodox and Catholic, together, in Eastern Europe.
    Stunned.
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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Fran Macadam
    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    "The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else."

    Laughing . . . I get it.

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  • @Anon

    No.
    “War is the continuation of politics by other means.”
     
    You and the author simplify a bit; here is some context; you can find more context if you care.

    As, then, there may be life without pain, while there cannot be pain without some kind of life, so there may be peace without war, but there cannot be war without some kind of peace, because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.
     
    I've noticed you absent from Revusky's last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).

    Nice.
    Agree, of course.
    Didn’t want to go that path on this site. Tried a couple of times and, let’s say that the level of misunderstanding was staggering.
    Getting phylosophical, or even deep into human very makeup, well, this isn’t the place.

    …because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.

    I’ll say just one thing.
    I had my own war. Apparently, it was really a very bad one, by everybody’s account.
    I just know one thing: I never felt so alive then and there. Nothing compares. Nothing……
    All elements of life itself were on the level I’ve never felt after that. The scent of air, intensity of sounds, taste of food and drinks, sleep, rest, comradeship, well…everything was 100 %. Nothing in civilian life compares. Nothing. Well, one thing only, actually.Won’t say what.
    Crazy a?
    Or….hehe…..poor civilians, “chattering class” in particular.

    If we want to get analytical now, the same applies to groups. A couple of mates, together, in war. A small community…larger community…..etc….etc.
    Anyway.

    I’ve noticed you absent from Revusky’s last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).

    Read some of the article, skimmed through some parts. Read some comments; got surprised by, say, “internal workings” of this site. Too much personal bullshit and politics if you ask me.
    As for the topic itself, well, got that video about Pentagon plane, so here I am:
    Before reading some stuff on this site (thank you guys, a couple only, of course) I thought one thing.
    Now I am inclined to think otherwise.
    Two things:
    I buy, 70/30 that the buildings, all of three of them, did collapse due to a peculiar combination of how they were built with how and with what they were hit, plus the rest. So, no demolitions.
    Second, Pentagon plane. That video, well….so, again, I believe that a plane (the plane) hit Pentagon.

    Now, did the government know that hijacking was going to happen, I am sure some parts of the intelligence community/security apparatus did. Was it intentionally not prevented, don’t think so. I go with incompetence and organizational culture there.

    That the event was manipulated and used for the Deep State goals, of course.
    I am sure that as soon some of them knew what was happening they started calculating and acting.
    Having said all this, I really don’t want to get into debate about that. I mean…done around zillion times already.

    One more thing.
    Mentioned my little war. So, can’t get emotionally involved into 9/11. What Americans see as a terrible thing re loss of life, limb and property, guys like me see “and…..?”.
    I am widely known as Russia hater here. So.. this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege

    is, in my book, worse than 9/11.
    Much worse.
    And, to add insult to the injury, only this

    2004

    In September 2004, following bombing attacks on two aircraft and the downtown Moscow Metro, Chechen terrorists seized over 1,000 hostages at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia.

    is on the Wikipedia site re “Terrorism in Russia”. Not even a fucking link.

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  • @Wally
    You laughably stated:

    "The Jews suffered the world to walk into those “showers” in the last century. You’ll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again’ this time around."

    Problem is that Jews were not 'holocausted' as they allege. There was no 'millions of Jews murdered', there were no 'gas chambers'. Absurdly impossible. Proof is utterly lacking.

    It's all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.

    The facts are that the 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth?
    Only lies require censorship.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/HHSl.jpg

    It’s all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.

    yes, because the only thing the cow-like goyim brain understands is raw power, and for the Jews to accomplish this, they have to use treachery and lies.

    that’s why you must be made to feel guilty, so when the Senator who’s asked by Tucker Carlson, ‘why must we go to war in Syria’, and he answers ‘if you care about Israel…’

    now if you didn’t kneejerk feel guilty about all the Jews you goyim gassed and your ovens, then would you feel the proper levels of guilt for what you did to them?!

    No. You’d say ‘fuck Israel, what do I care?’

    and so this is why they had to lie about it all, because of anti-Semites like you, who otherwise wouldn’t be willing to engage in endless wars for Israel! And wouldn’t give them endless billions and build endless Holocaust museums, to guilt-trip the next generations. How dumb do you have to be?!

    It’s not rocket science man!

    If you’d have simply allowed the world to destroy Germany, and then set about building Israel on her ashes, and then sent Israel all those billions it demanded and waged endless wars on her behalf, then they wouldn’t have even needed to go to all of that trouble to create the Holocaust narrative to enslave your minds and soul$.

    Duh!

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  • @Wally
    "it is to encircle Iran and preventing it from linking up with China."

    Yet Iran is linking up with China, big time.

    https://thediplomat.com/2016/11/iran-china-sign-military-cooperation-agreement/

    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/iran-and-china-are-strengthening-their-military-ties

    https://financialtribune.com/articles/economy-domestic-economy/69312/iran-china-h1-trade-up-31-to-18-billion

    You are right. However, they probably would prefer to have an overland connection also that is not threatened by the U.S.

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  • @Seamus Day

    I have more than you have, a man who lived in NYC and saw it happen.
     
    A friend of my mom’s who lives in Arlington, VA, called right after the news from the WTC was breaking, and smoke was coming from what the news thought was from the Capitol, and she was crying and told my mom that see just saw a plane fly into the Pentagon. I was there when my mom took the call.

    ‘and she was crying and told my mom that see just saw a plane fly into the Pentagon. I was there when my mom took the call.’

    And yet, with all the surveillance cameras, probably numbering in the hundreds, pointed right there, no video has been released by the Pentagon or FBI or CIA, for national security reasons. But there is one single linked video, easy to find, which shows an almost lightening-quick flash and what looks like a missile.
    And of course, no seats, engines, dead bodies–ever see footage of a real airplane crash?

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  • @Cold N. Holefield

    So you can’t just start going on saying that these people are repeating the story, therefore the story must be true, because that is precisely the proposition that is under dispute! Can’t you see that?
     
    Why do you think I can't see that? Of course I see it!!! The next logical question then becomes, is the entire story false or is some of it false, and if some of it's false, which parts are false and which are true? That's what I'm interested in, not your Wager.

    If it doesn't mean any more to you than the Wager, then why are you even bothering with it any longer? You've proven your point, and if you're not curious beyond that, well, that's your prerogative, but I'm still curious.

    To satisfy your curiosity, it occurs to me that the Social Security Death Index might be something to check. It’s public record and you have two points to enter: her name and the date of death.

    I’d think that if she’s real and she died on 9/11/2001, there would be a record for her.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Cold N. Holefield commented:
    "The Wager part of it, for me at least, is non-essential. For you, yes, I realize, $10,000 is nothing to sneeze at and it’s also a matter of principle."

    Hi Cold N. Holefield,

    Agreed, above, and thanks for writing such practical sense!

    Ideally, Jon Revusky's article was written for a principled purpose.

    I trust J.R. did the work as a result of having made a choice between the forces of enlightenment & truth versus those of endarkenment & lies.

    For me, on the bright side, the anecdotal Unz / Revusky "wager" proliferates comments, but I'd like to see both scholarly men "pool" what is now apparent about the Phantom of The Flight 11 Opera, Betty Ong.

    P.S.:
    Terrific literary "screen name" pun, Cold N. Holefield! Thanks!

    Chuck Orloski,

    There’s no doubt J.R. is highly intelligent and incredibly thorough & comprehensive. I like how he even corrected my hyperbole to Keep it Honest. I respect that.

    I guess I was a bit taken aback because it appeared he was taking me the wrong way. I respect the work he’s done on this and his thinking on this. I wasn’t trying to attack him or impugn him in any way.

    Terrific literary “screen name” pun, Cold N. Holefield! Thanks!

    Thank you. Catcher In The Rye is an excellent book, and the fact that various Freaks like Mark David Chapman and John Hinckley were so drawn to it has always intrigued me. As well, the messaging in that book is Spot On. Everyone, or most everyone, is a Phoney. Or, It’s All Lies.

    Sweet dreams are made of this
    Who am I to disagree?
    I travel the world and the seven seas
    Everybody’s looking for something

    Some of them want to use you
    Some of them want to get used by you
    Some of them want to abuse you
    Some of them want to be abused

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    Cold N. Holefield wrote reflectively:
    "There’s no doubt J.R. is highly intelligent and incredibly thorough & comprehensive. I like how he even corrected my hyperbole to Keep it Honest. I respect that."

    Hi "Catcher,"

    I like the way you think and how you exhibit signs of having "thick skin" with some people's lack thereof.

    Strong minds & personalities, it's too bad Jon & Ron are currently reacting as acid & base on this very "unspeakable" 9/11 matter. *

    Thanks, Cold N. Holefield!

    *The late-Thomas Merton wrote about President JFK's absolute need for having "thick skin," due to ruthless pressures being brought to bear by what the Trappist monk deigned as "UNSPEAKABLE" (domestic) warmongering forces.

    P.S.:
    I like the song-lyric you featured but for the life of me, my foot tapped, but I can't recall the title name & original artist. At first, I considered Dylan's "The Mighty Quinn (the Eskimo)."
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  • Trump pulled the trigger, but instead of a “bang!” what the world heard was a demure “click”. Considering that we are talking about playing a most dangerous game of potentially nuclear Russian AngloZionist roulette, the “click” is very good news indeed. But, to use the words of Nikki Haley, the US “gun” is still “locked...
  • @peterAUS

    This means that Russia is fighting a defensive war and the West the war of aggression, which by definition makes Russia right and the West wrong.
     
    Some people don't equate the regime in Kremlin with Russia.

    For the Russians “the turf”, as you put it, is our own country and we do defend it.
     
    Nobody was attacking Russia last time (5 minutes ago) I checked.
    Last time it happened '41. At least you people are fond of regurgitating that all the time.

    That we do not know.
     
    Some of us do. We also aren't bad in history either. Like remembering USSR expansion into Europe.We simply don't like to see another.
    "Do not trust Moscow". Short and simple. Keyword "trust".

    We made our positions clear.
    Let's move on.

    The “regime” — and a theocratic one — is in your beloved apartheid Jewish State. (“Israel does not have a written constitution,” “the Israeli government gives special preference to Judaism,” “Although Israel does not grant special privileges to any special Jewish group, many European Jews belong to higher social classes than Arabs and “Oriental” Jews”).
    And who are these “we” in your mysterious “We made our positions clear” – the US ziocons?
    The ziocons had attacked Russian interests in Ukraine (which borders with Russia) and arranged the NATO military bae there. The coup d’etat was to the detriments of the majority of Ukrainian people, including Ukrainian Jews that have been enjoying the triumph of banderism in Kiev and beyond since then. Nothing pleasures the Kagans’ clan more than a profitable cooperation with the followers of Bandera. “Lionized as a nationalist hero in Ukraine, Stepan Bandera was a Nazi sympathizer who left behind a horrific legacy,” https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/09/stepan-bandera-nationalist-euromaidan-right-sector/
    The ziocons have been arming and providing with the logistics the “moderate” terrorists in the Middle East, where Russia has been defending her interests by the legitimate means, on the legitimate invitation from the legitimate Syrian government — unlike the ziocon coalition of the US/NATO + Israel + the oh-so-democratic Saudis + the CIA-trained head-choppers and liver eaters.
    Russia is just another unfortunate country where the militant Jews wanted to get the upper hand for the expense of the natives. What your tribe has been commemorating for centuries during Purim? — A mass slaughter of the native population provoked by the obnoxious Jewish guests. And this is what gives joy to your tribe: “Happy is the one who seizes your [Persian, Russian, German...] infants and dashes them against the rocks.” Psalm 137:9

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Uebersetzer
    Kind of interesting, this. A staple of Unz comments and some articles is of how low-IQ everyone is outside North America and Western Europe (and even there there are blacks etc.) but suddenly they are more perceptive and see through what is phony, in say, the Central African Republic compared to the States, simply because they watch less TV.

    ‘suddenly they are more perceptive and see through what is phony, in say, the Central African Republic compared to the States, simply because they watch less TV’

    Not only do most people watch far less tv than Americans, but they are actually, many of them, INVADED BY … Americans (and Brits and French, the grand coalition in lock step). But tv brainwashes anyone it touches. Its extremely harmful effects have to be consciously unlearned, a sometimes painful process (finding out this or that cherished thing is there to do you harm, from sports teams and individuals to favorite tv shows and movies and music).

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  • @Ngo Ng
    If you are not on anti-psychotic meds, you should begin taking them. If you are on anti-psychotic meds, you should immediately stop taking them.

    Michelle Malkin's blabberwith is more relevant than your "I myself" misadled sloppiness. In fact, Trump makes more sense than you. By the way my one really born in Ireland Irish friend adopted a child from Asia (so you can understand, the child is actually an asian) and the rest you can try to imagine.

    You must be a project of Ron's (a Columbia graduate crack head in rehab type project) for him to put your nuttiness to this site.

    This will trip your wire, if 911 was a false flag operation, and Betty Ong "hersef" does not exist, why?

    The Official Version of 9/11 goes something like this…

    Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, ( This well appointed Suite http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/nether_fictoid3.htm according to the London Times): nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah…

    Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes…

    And hangover or not, they manage to give the world’s most sophisticated air defense system the slip…

    Unfazed by leaving their “How to Fly a Passenger Jet” guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely…

    Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two… and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically – through their own mass – at free-fall speed, for the first time in history.

    Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground… only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI…

    …Meanwhile down in Washington…

    Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing…

    Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little…

    Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world’s most heavily defended building…

    …all without a single shot being fired…. or ruining the nicely mowed lawn… and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video…

    …Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania…

    So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later…

    And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, it crashes into a Shankesville field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants… except for the standard issue Muslim terrorists bandana…

    …Further south in Florida…

    President Bush, our brave Commander-in-Chief continues to read “My Pet Goat” to a class full of primary school children… shrugging off the obvious possibility that his life could be in imminent danger…

    …In New York…

    World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously…

    While back in Washington, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shake their heads in disbelief at their own luck in getting the ‘New Pearl Harbor’ catalyzing event they so desired to pursue their agenda of world domination…

    And finally, not to be disturbed too much by reports of their own deaths, at least seven of our nineteen suicide hijackers turn up alive and kicking in mainstream media reports…

    And If you don’t believe this, you are a conspiracy theorist.

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    You reminded me of the 5 min video by James Corbett:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Rurik

    except for the vultures who got rich with the war
     
    when I read post 83, where he said " I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: “Thank you for your service.”

    I was tempted to suggest that some of them, may have wondered if he hadn't 'fragged' an ambitious lieutenant or two, and wanted to thank him for the effort.

    If a war is immoral, illegal, unconstitutional, 'based on lies, conducted against civilians for the fun and profit of evil men and women, (as all of our recent wars have clearly been)

    then there's few things in this world that would bolster my disposition more than news that one or two particularly vile war pigs might catch a bit of their own medicine.

    https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/madeleine-albright-6.jpg

    you really should have put a warning atop that photo.

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    mea culpa sir

    mea culpa
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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Anon
    I have more than you have, a man who lived in NYC and saw it happen.

    Okay, I didn’t see it happen live, but was in NY six months later and saw the still-smoldering crater. Indeed, I hereby confirm that the World Trade Center is no more. And big whoop. Who ever said otherwise?

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  • anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2
    If there's a girl who looks the same, graduated at the same time, cannot be identified as a different person, has the same English first name and has the same Chinese surname then she surely is the same whatever small and understandable typo may have been made in a student produced yearbook.

    Until Revusky discounts this perfectly sensible set of inferences he cannot be said to have won the bet. A one letter transliteration mistake is hum drum. All of the conspiracy freaks keep ignoring this...I assume because they have no answer to it.

    looks the same, graduated at the same time, cannot be identified as a different person

    My thoughts exactly. She look very similar to me, although I will freely admit that my judgment in this regard may be off. Maybe it wasn’t even a typo. Maybe it was entered in the yearbook that way for some very trivial, as of yet unknown reason. Maybe the different spelling is actually a conspiracy in itself. I don’t know what the answer is, and I don’t know that anyone has ever even looked into it.

    I just find it amazing that other commenters here are suggesting that the idea that her name may have been spelled slightly differently in some old yearbook (for whatever reason) is ludicrous, crazy, outlandish nonsense that is completely outside the realm of possibility, while the simpler and more likely conclusion is that she never really existed, and is in reality part of a huge, highly elaborate, multilayered conspiracy involving dozens, possibly hundreds of people. All of the people in on the conspiracy are perfectly fine with being complicit in the murder of thousands of innocent Americans for unexplained reasons. Not a single one of these people ever comes forward. Ever.

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    Maybe it was entered in the yearbook that way for some very trivial, as of yet unknown reason.
     
    That's a stretch, given that both Betty Ng and Betty Ong are in the yearbook and that the yearbook's names would have been transcribed from the school's official student roll.

    Did the student roll contain two names for one person?
    If it did:
    Are there two transcripts? Are they the same, or different?
    Did they participate in the same, or different extracurricular clubs, associations, etc?
    Did that person get 2 graduation diplomas?

    IOW, if Betty Ng is, in fact Betty Ong then things can get weird very quickly.

    As for:

    She look very similar to me, although I will freely admit that my judgment in this regard may be off.
     
    ... the latter half of the statement would appear to be much closer to the mark than the former. FWIW, I've been living in Asia for a decade, and to my eye they're not even close. 8 or 9 years ago, I probably would've agreed with you.
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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • @Z-man

    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel –
     
    Isruel would not exist without the USA and the fact that they have 100 nukes, the Samson option.

    Targeted assassinations, the Jews do it, the anti Zionist movement should do it also. Oye vey do I have a list. (Grin) Surprisingly many are shabbos goys.

    Israel can exist without the USA. Nukes are a pretty good life insurance. How it would fare without US taxpayers’ money is another matter. You should bear in mind though that Jews rule the banks, the media, the entertainment, the justice, and the education in the whole Western world, not only in the US.

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    Nukes aren't defensive weapons and couldn't be used to stop an invasion. Israel could be invaded and taken down much more quickly than any of its neighbors. Only having a defender like the US has allowed Israel to survive this long.
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  • The current series of railroad strikes in France are portrayed in the media as “labor unrest”, a conflict between the government and trade union leaders, or as a temporary nuisance to travelers caused by the self-interest of a privileged category of workers. In Anglo-American media, there is the usual self-satisfied tongue-clicking over “those cheese-eaters, always...
  • Good to have Ms. Johnston on this site. She has always been a great Counterpunch contributor.

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  • A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country's constitution. To progressives across the West, this was disturbing news. For the bete noire of Orban's campaign was uber-globalist George Soros. And Orban's commitments were to halt any further surrenders of Hungarian sovereignty and independence...
  • @Anon
    Churchill of Marlborough was a snake. A remarkably talented snake, but still a snake.

    Churchill of Marlborough was a snake. A remarkably talented snake, but still a snake.

    Agreed. Treachery seemed to run in the Churchill family.

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  • The current series of railroad strikes in France are portrayed in the media as “labor unrest”, a conflict between the government and trade union leaders, or as a temporary nuisance to travelers caused by the self-interest of a privileged category of workers. In Anglo-American media, there is the usual self-satisfied tongue-clicking over “those cheese-eaters, always...
  • Pointless.

    People as Ms. Johnston should be thinking about the paradigm.

    In the current, this is what has been happening, is happening, and will be happening.
    That’s the nature of it.

    Thinking about meaning of life, nature of work, (re)distribution of goods and services and such is the only way to make any difference.

    Otherwise, most of us will be serfs for the top 20 %, “managed” and, if necessary, “retired”.

    That’s the most likely future, actually.
    The mixture of new Ancient Egypt and Huxley’s “New World Order”. No slaves and order maintained, mostly, with a gloved hand.

    Working class has been fucked over and nobody was paying attention. On the contrary, the rest liked it.
    Now they are coming for the middle class, with gusto.

    Pleasant dreams.

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    There's blame to go around.
    The post-war history of American labor is of a movement with one strategy and double-down, double-down, double-down, 'till it went broke.
    There are two strategies labor needed to take and bears responsibility for failing at: 1) at about the time when it should have accepted that American laborers were getting a pretty good deal that could only be improved in the short-term by consuming the host, it should have shifted resources to bargain for the long-haul by moving for a German-style public corporate, corporate/labor model, namely where labor had a seat on the board, 2) rather than tunnel-vision resistance to free trade up to and until it simply lost in a total wash-out, it should have looked for alternative models to global trade, one of which has been on display : the British Commonwealth of Nations.
    If in 1975 American labor threw its strength behind those two long-term goals we would have a much different world today - one with much more prosperity, better distributed, and with less identity politics.
    On the right, well: the right seemed absolutely convinced that it could kill its opposition and nothing would replace it.
    You can of course kill your loyal opposition for the incremental pennies on the dollar back that its worth to you - but usually when you kill the loyal opposition its replaced by the disloyal opposition.

    When I go to places where American working class are still found - they still love America. Can't say that for the left we have, which is the left that we have the Republican right to thank for.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Rurik

    war – but then, sum up by blaming it on “The Joos.”
     
    exactly!

    if anything, the "Joos" are trying to stop all these wars!

    who came out strongest against the wars on Iraq, and then Libya and then Syria, if not the ((NYT))?!

    who has condemned the recent bombing of Syria, (over obvious lies about chemical attacks) if not Sheldon Adelson and bb Netanyahu!

    I mean come on, right?

    AIPAC has little to no influence in DC, but still that plucky little voice has been adamant that all of these wars are illegal, misguided and wrong.

    The Kagan 'cabal' (as some anti-Semites refer to them) have been demanding investigations into the contrived putsch (Yatz is our guy') in Ukraine, and all the lies about MH17!

    The entire Jewish media, from CNN to all the rest have been exposing the lies about these wars like no other! Look how they railed at Clinton for her role in Libya!

    But these tiresome anti-Semites will always look for an excuse for their own failures and failings, and it's not like we haven't seen this kind of scapegoat blaming before! When you're having difficulties, there's the temptation to always find some group to blame and spread blood libels, just as a certain mustached demagogue from history showed us all how it's done.

    It reminds me of those terrorists in Israel that never lose an opportunity to try to blame "The Joos" for all of their problems, so they attack Israel (on Passover!), and threaten to push her into the sea, demanding Hitlerian calls for genocide, like "The right of Return"!

    They may as well be building gas chambers and ovens with talk like that, and what does the world do?!

    they act all crybaby because a few terrorists got shot. Well what does these modern day Adolf Hitlers think the Jews are going to do when they demand The Right of Return / genocide?

    The Jews suffered the world to walk into those "showers" in the last century. You'll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again' this time around.

    From Palestinian terrorists, to neo-white supremacists like Ron Paul and PCR, pooh-poohing these wars, there's always someone looking for a group to blame for their own mediocrity and incompetence.

    You laughably stated:

    “The Jews suffered the world to walk into those “showers” in the last century. You’ll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again’ this time around.”

    Problem is that Jews were not ‘holocausted’ as they allege. There was no ‘millions of Jews murdered’, there were no ‘gas chambers’. Absurdly impossible. Proof is utterly lacking.

    It’s all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.

    The facts are that the ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth?
    Only lies require censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

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    It’s all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.
     
    yes, because the only thing the cow-like goyim brain understands is raw power, and for the Jews to accomplish this, they have to use treachery and lies.

    that's why you must be made to feel guilty, so when the Senator who's asked by Tucker Carlson, 'why must we go to war in Syria', and he answers 'if you care about Israel...'

    now if you didn't kneejerk feel guilty about all the Jews you goyim gassed and your ovens, then would you feel the proper levels of guilt for what you did to them?!

    No. You'd say 'fuck Israel, what do I care?'

    and so this is why they had to lie about it all, because of anti-Semites like you, who otherwise wouldn't be willing to engage in endless wars for Israel! And wouldn't give them endless billions and build endless Holocaust museums, to guilt-trip the next generations. How dumb do you have to be?!

    It's not rocket science man!

    If you'd have simply allowed the world to destroy Germany, and then set about building Israel on her ashes, and then sent Israel all those billions it demanded and waged endless wars on her behalf, then they wouldn't have even needed to go to all of that trouble to create the Holocaust narrative to enslave your minds and soul$.

    Duh!
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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • @Anonymous
    It's a package deal. If they take out Russia, global domination is virtually assured and Israel will get the World's crown sooner or later. At the heart of it there's a messianic lunacy and that's why we're facing WW3 at, say, 90% probability.

    If they take out Russia, Russia will take out Israel so Israel will be a dead king. The Zionists should better reign in the neocons if they want there to be an Israel.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @anonymous

    Any war failing to yield peace is purposeless and, if purposeless, both wrong and stupid.
     
    What about the most common example of war for the purpose of plunder and material gain? The morality of "wrong" doesn't enter into it and ultimate peace may or may not be a goal.
    It's not the fault of the military that Afghans haven't all cooperated with their occupation. They've done the job assigned to them but impossible jobs are, after all, impossible. It's a military-political pipe-dream that was created by the incompetents of the Bush years and the political part is unattainable.

    Madeleine Albright said it best: “If we have to use force, it is because we are America
     
    I like this "we" part. That evil witch certainly never risked herself but sent other people's children into the cauldron. There's no "we" in all this. The upper echelon sacrifices the small fry and their lives mean nothing to them.

    Having outsourced responsibility for defending the country
     
    They're not defending the country, that's mind-boggling propaganda. There's so much delusion here that one could go through this article line-by-line and dissect it. I'm off this "support our troops" wagon. It's just a fiction; you sign up, you know the risks.

    They’re not defending the country, that’s mind-boggling propaganda.

    Indeed. The last Americans to die defending their country were the Confederate soldiers who died defending theirs. All others died for the US empire, including Union forces who died while making the South it’s first victim.

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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • @geokat62

    For neocons,... it’s global domination, for Zionists, it’s Greater Israel...
     
    Global domination for neocons is not an end in itself, it is a means to an end... and that end is the enhancement of the security of the Jewish state.

    ... but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn’t help at all achieve the Zionists’ goals.
     
    Surely, you jest. The neocons like Robert Kaganovitch and his wife Victoria Nudelman, Willian Kristol, David Frum, etc, are obsessed with Russia as Russia is the sponsor of both Iran and Syria, which supply Hezbollah the means by which to keep Israel out of Lebanon.

    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel
     
    While the former is true, the latter isn’t.

    The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.
     
    On this, we both can agree.

    If the US and its suppletives take on Russia, Israel becomes fair game. So to take out Russia, neocons would have to sacrify Israel. That’s where the Khazars diverge from mainstream Zionism. What’s the use of being God’s “chosen people” if you don’t rule the world but then what’s the use of ruling the world if there is no Israel?
    Zionist support of neocon agenda may well terminate their beloved creature’s existence in the ME so they should think twice before pushing their US vassal to attack Russia.

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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • @Simply Simon
    JJ, I understand your anger, but I would be happy if just the major perps would be convicted. Sunday the Austin American-Statesman ran a comprehensive story commemorating the entire incident as it unfolded. Basically it was your Federal government at its worst. Yesterday the same paper ran an article concerning the lessons learned from that debacle, many years too late and millions of dollars too short. In the article one of the FBI agents there, now retired indicated he believed Hillary was the one who actually gave the go ahead to set fire to the compound.

    I would like every one of the the war criminals, from top to bottom, hanged.

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  • @Mike P

    The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It’s not the military that is deciding to stay forever.
     
    The failure to rebuild functioning nation states and the "need" for continuous occupation are not bugs but features. The ongoing occupation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with "fighting terror" or "spreading democracy and freedom" - it is to encircle Iran and preventing it from linking up with China. Afghanistan cannot be allowed to make its own decisions in this matter, so it must endure the occupation.
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    You are right. However, they probably would prefer to have an overland connection also that is not threatened by the U.S.
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  • A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country's constitution. To progressives across the West, this was disturbing news. For the bete noire of Orban's campaign was uber-globalist George Soros. And Orban's commitments were to halt any further surrenders of Hungarian sovereignty and independence...
  • @SunBakedSuburb
    " ... whites have every liberty to form their own groups. "

    Not really. If a group of whites publicly professed in-group preference and wanted to coalesce around identitarian issues, white sjw Stalinists would move quickly, primarily on social media, to stigmatize such a group. Especially if said group was more serious than Richard Spencer's cavalcade of gay Nazi camp.

    "Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture."

    I will assume you're being sincere: Apparently, you don't follow trends. The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint or be doxxed, which will be followed by economic marginalization.

    “If a group of whites publicly professed in-group preference and wanted to coalesce around identitarian issues, white sjw Stalinists would move quickly, primarily on social media, to stigmatize such a group.”

    Yet, despite SJW machinations, those whites have the freedom to form their own in-group. It doesn’t mean they are free from outside pressure. Besides, any group is “stigmatized” by their ideological opponents, so that argument goes out the door.

    “Especially if said group was more serious than Richard Spencer’s cavalcade of gay Nazi camp.”

    Spencer’s group is indeed serious. See, you just stigmatized his merry band, yet they still remain steadfast in their desire to gain footing in their community.

    “Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture.”

    “I will assume you’re being sincere: Apparently, you don’t follow trends.”

    The trend is that the Coalition of the Fringes, Right and Left, write a narrative that normies find over-the-top.

    “The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint or be doxxed, which will be followed by economic marginalization.”

    A societal mantra as dictated by radical white liberals, not whites in general. In similar fashion, the Alt Right demands that whites accept “race realism”, lest they be labeled “race traitors” and summarily labeled as “enemies”.

    Works both ways here.

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  • Trump pulled the trigger, but instead of a “bang!” what the world heard was a demure “click”. Considering that we are talking about playing a most dangerous game of potentially nuclear Russian AngloZionist roulette, the “click” is very good news indeed. But, to use the words of Nikki Haley, the US “gun” is still “locked...
  • @Miro23

    Perhaps the next “click” will be some kind of catastrophic false-flag attack?
     
    To be "catastrophic" means that Russia gets false-flagged, not Syria or Iran. It could happen. The Zionists want "regime change" with the destruction of Syria and Iran, and they're not going to get it while the Russians remain in the area .

    False-flags need time, preparation and co-ordination, and a clue might be the current intense anti-Russian propaganda. Modern day Zionist false-flags always seem to start with a preparatory media barrage against the target, and there's no doubt that Russia is getting the treatment.

    They could sink a US Navy ship to get their war, but what would the subsequent US assault look like? and with what kind of Russian response? It's given that the US can't fight a ground war in Syria and Iran, and it's navy and air force are too exposed to modern weapons, so as Saker suggests it could quickly develop into a Middle East nuclear war.

    This would give Israel/US/Saudi Arabia their victory, with the bet that Russia would pull back from a full inter-continental nuclear engagement given that only Syrian and Iranian targets are hit with nuclear weapons.

    However, if the fated bullet happened to be in that fated chamber, the Russians would decide to get it over with, and flatten Israel, New York, Washington, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, the Pentagon, Langley etc. with a few thousand warheads to spare.

    It’s given that the US can’t fight a ground war in Syria and Iran, and it’s navy and air force are too exposed to modern weapons….

    Wishful thinking.

    US can fight those ground wars and the other side is more exposed to modern weapons.
    Much more.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.

    Indeed, it would cure the primary dynamic in question practically over-night.

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  • @lack of meaning
    I had the chance to speak with many american veterans of the Vietnam war in the 70`s . There was the draft ot the time .

    Many of them came back very sick , abuse of alcohol , drugs , postraumatic stress disorder , they committed genocides against civilians , they felt guilty , they " fragged " , they were demoralized , they felt their country had betrayed them ...

    Many of them told me that the worse was that after a time in Vietnam they did nor see the meaning of the war , some of them told me : well if those f.... gooks want to be communists , let them be communists , I do not understand them , who am I or my country to tell them what to do , after all if communism is a shitty system let them eat shit , and at the end if it is a good system we will copy them , but what the hell are we doing there ....

    The war of Vietnam was a big defeat fot the USA in the peak of its power at the hands ot a little
    backwarded country , a military defeat , a moral defeat , a human defeat , an economical defeat ( except for the vultures who got rich with the war )

    If Bacevich ( nice Russian name tovarich , privet ) defends the draft , or the arab wars , he has not learned anything fron the Vietnam war , and I am affraid from none of the arab wars , habibi .

    except for the vultures who got rich with the war

    when I read post 83, where he said ” I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: “Thank you for your service.”

    I was tempted to suggest that some of them, may have wondered if he hadn’t ‘fragged’ an ambitious lieutenant or two, and wanted to thank him for the effort.

    If a war is immoral, illegal, unconstitutional, ‘based on lies, conducted against civilians for the fun and profit of evil men and women, (as all of our recent wars have clearly been)

    then there’s few things in this world that would bolster my disposition more than news that one or two particularly vile war pigs might catch a bit of their own medicine.

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • @Ali Choudhury
    Outside of a few ritzy neighborhoods which would have been out of reach of the ordinary locals going back decades, foreign oligarchs have not been buying that much property in London. Low interest rates are the primary reason prices have skyrocketed.

    Well that’s what I hear from people there. Although, you are right that the perception and actual cause of the problem are not necessarily the same.

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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • To Ptrick Lang:
    “The neocons believe so strongly that America must lead the world and mankind forward that they accept the idea that the achievement of human progress justifies any means needed to advance that goal.”
    This statement has thrown me for a loop. It raises a few questions, like:
    What are the neocons?
    Aren`t the neocons Zionists?
    What are the Zionists?
    The neocons/Zionists are for “the achievement of human progress”, now?
    What is “human progress”?
    If neocons are Zionists, how does “America must lead the world and mankind forward” play into this, shouldn`t it state Israel, instead?
    Why is “America must lead the world and mankind forward” seemingly equated with “the achievement of human progress”?
    Why wasn`t it explained that “the end justifies the means” is a fallacious concept, since, if used, “the means” BECOME “the end” (humans, after all, are creatures of habit, in other words, addicts)?
    Thank you.

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  • what bollocks.
    The purpose of all wars is conquest..

    That a few “volunteer” is hopefully a sign of decreasing stupidity.

    What sane person would fight, kill or die for the political filth?

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • @Polish Perspective
    Eurostat is out with numbers on book reading. Curious trivia.

    https://jodi.graphics/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/People-reading-books.png

    France looks curiously low. And share is not the same as time spent. Here's that:

    https://jodi.graphics/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Time-spent-reading-books.png

    So France continues to underperform. Very strange. Finally a map:

    https://jodi.graphics/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Share-of-people-reading-books-2016-Eurostat-Jo-Di-graphics_.png

    Unfortunately the mapmaker is retarded. It isn't the "share of people" but "time spent" that is being highlighted. I was positively surprised by Greece and to some extent even Turkey. Outside of France I'd say the biggest negative outlier is Austria.

    https://jodi.graphics/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Expenditure-on-books.png

    Though if you look at expenditure on newspapers, books etc, both the French and the Austrians do decently well. Maybe they just buy more expensive books which are more intellectual but read less? Or maybe their newspapers are high-brow enough that less of book-reading is needed.

    I'd be interested in the quality of books rather than just time spent on books. Someone reading Harry Potter, 50 shades of grey and a ton of chick-lit isn't on the same level as someone reading a few major intellectual tomes per year. But I guess that would be too "elitist", or maybe hard to measure.

    I’d be interested in the quality of books rather than just time spent on books. Someone reading Harry Potter, 50 shades of grey and a ton of chick-lit isn’t on the same level as someone reading a few major intellectual tomes per year.

    Might be able to compile this from an index of sales stats based on popular, widely-translated science, history, etc. books (though I imagine Eastern Europe will be a bit underweighed due to widespread piracy).

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  • @Mitleser

    What did all those brave men suffer and die for at the gates of Vienna in the 1600s and centuries before?
     
    What did all those brave Roman men suffer and die for at the gates of Anatolia in the 900s and centuries before?

    “So that a man’s right to publicly dress up as a fruity Roman soldier shall not perish from this Earth!”

    If it weren’t for those darned Turks, it would be happening in Constantinople too!

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-27/turkish-anti-riot-police-officers-disperse-lgbt-community/7545284

    “So that the poz shall perish from the Earth!”

    Peace.

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  • @Seamus Day

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”
     

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    No, the trillions weren’t spent (as in wasted) they were simply diverted from the public to the private sector.

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Cold N. Holefield
    I'm not disputing the verity or specifics of the Wager. I'm genuinely interested in this and in getting to the bottom of it. The Wager part of it, for me at least, is non-essential. For you, yes, I realize, $10,000 is nothing to sneeze at and it's also a matter of principle. I understand, but I have no dog in that fight.

    Cold N. Holefield commented:
    “The Wager part of it, for me at least, is non-essential. For you, yes, I realize, $10,000 is nothing to sneeze at and it’s also a matter of principle.”

    Hi Cold N. Holefield,

    Agreed, above, and thanks for writing such practical sense!

    Ideally, Jon Revusky’s article was written for a principled purpose.

    I trust J.R. did the work as a result of having made a choice between the forces of enlightenment & truth versus those of endarkenment & lies.

    For me, on the bright side, the anecdotal Unz / Revusky “wager” proliferates comments, but I’d like to see both scholarly men “pool” what is now apparent about the Phantom of The Flight 11 Opera, Betty Ong.

    P.S.:
    Terrific literary “screen name” pun, Cold N. Holefield! Thanks!

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    Chuck Orloski,

    There's no doubt J.R. is highly intelligent and incredibly thorough & comprehensive. I like how he even corrected my hyperbole to Keep it Honest. I respect that.

    I guess I was a bit taken aback because it appeared he was taking me the wrong way. I respect the work he's done on this and his thinking on this. I wasn't trying to attack him or impugn him in any way.

    Terrific literary “screen name” pun, Cold N. Holefield! Thanks!
     
    Thank you. Catcher In The Rye is an excellent book, and the fact that various Freaks like Mark David Chapman and John Hinckley were so drawn to it has always intrigued me. As well, the messaging in that book is Spot On. Everyone, or most everyone, is a Phoney. Or, It's All Lies.

    Sweet dreams are made of this
    Who am I to disagree?
    I travel the world and the seven seas
    Everybody's looking for something

    Some of them want to use you
    Some of them want to get used by you
    Some of them want to abuse you
    Some of them want to be abused
     
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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • @Anonymous
    Very good post.

    Thanks

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  • @mark green
    Well-written article, but Andrew Bacevich avoids (as usual) examining--or even mentioning--(1) the massive money, (2) entrenched political machinery, and (3) intellectual sleight-of-hand which funds, formulates, and justifies Washington's lopsided and murderous Mideast 'foreign policies'.

    Shall we count the bodies together, Andrew?

    Iraq, for instance, was a functioning and rising society before Zio-American forces went in there and annihilated it. Millions died or were wounded. Millions more have been displaced. Chaos came next.

    Shouldn't the perpetrators be identified and punished, Mr. Bacevich?

    Any thoughts on crime and punishment?

    In the meantime, let's see if we can detect a pattern in all this.

    Here's the hit list:

    Anti-Zionist Iraq: Crushed and neutralized. Anti-Zionist Syria: In ruins. Anti-Zionist Palestine: Under siege and in permanent lockdown. Anti-Zionist Libya: Dismembered and neutralized. And (coming soon): Death, misery and mayhem delivered to pro-Palestinian (and anti-Zionist) Lebanon and pro-Palestinian (anti-Zionist) Iran.

    Is there a pattern here?--(one that Mr. Bacevich failed to notice)

    Perhaps.

    Are there pro-Zionist fingerprints in this crime scene?

    Oh, maybe.

    With entire nations destroyed, does this massive destruction not have the appearance of a criminal enterprise?

    Possibly.

    But support our troops!

    Bibi was right when he (privately) whispered to a concerned Israeli: "Don't worry about America. America can be moved."

    So true.

    America has certainly been 'moved'.

    We are headed over a cliff!

    But Bacevich barely notices. His 'scholarship' is typical of the Zionist-friendly, PC drivel that emanates from 'TomDispatch'.

    Fact: Zio-Washington is on a prolonged, blood-soaked, trillion-dollar killing spree.

    Can we talk about it?

    Death, discord and destruction (of Israel's foes) is the objective.

    So from an Israeli perspective, things are going very well in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Palestine.

    Israel is rising. Her foes are sinking.

    America's 'military disasters' are just what the Jewish doctor ordered. Mission accomplished!

    Yet all Bacevich can finally say is that America's all-volunteer army is "the root cause of our predicament".

    Are we to take this man seriously?

    What about Israel's de facto ownership of the US Congress, Andrew?

    Any thoughts about 'patterns' of ownership of American mass media, Mr. Bacevich?

    Maybe next article, eh?

    Bacevich as presented his readers a huge puzzle which he is determined not to solve. Perhaps that's his objective.

    Fact: Zio-Washington is on a prolonged, blood-soaked, trillion-dollar killing spree.

    multi-trillion dollar killing spree

    What about Israel’s de facto ownership of the US Congress, Andrew?

    Any thoughts about ‘patterns’ of ownership of American mass media, Mr. Bacevich?

    Bacevich is a rank whore

    an unctuous, gaping gash, undulating in yawning anticipation for copious and well-earned wampum.

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  • @Ngo Ng
    What's your evidence that they were "clearly reading from a script"?

    He just got through saying that he read it in a book.

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  • I had the chance to speak with many american veterans of the Vietnam war in the 70`s . There was the draft ot the time .

    Many of them came back very sick , abuse of alcohol , drugs , postraumatic stress disorder , they committed genocides against civilians , they felt guilty , they ” fragged ” , they were demoralized , they felt their country had betrayed them …

    Many of them told me that the worse was that after a time in Vietnam they did nor see the meaning of the war , some of them told me : well if those f…. gooks want to be communists , let them be communists , I do not understand them , who am I or my country to tell them what to do , after all if communism is a shitty system let them eat shit , and at the end if it is a good system we will copy them , but what the hell are we doing there ….

    The war of Vietnam was a big defeat fot the USA in the peak of its power at the hands ot a little
    backwarded country , a military defeat , a moral defeat , a human defeat , an economical defeat ( except for the vultures who got rich with the war )

    If Bacevich ( nice Russian name tovarich , privet ) defends the draft , or the arab wars , he has not learned anything fron the Vietnam war , and I am affraid from none of the arab wars , habibi .

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    except for the vultures who got rich with the war
     
    when I read post 83, where he said " I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: “Thank you for your service.”

    I was tempted to suggest that some of them, may have wondered if he hadn't 'fragged' an ambitious lieutenant or two, and wanted to thank him for the effort.

    If a war is immoral, illegal, unconstitutional, 'based on lies, conducted against civilians for the fun and profit of evil men and women, (as all of our recent wars have clearly been)

    then there's few things in this world that would bolster my disposition more than news that one or two particularly vile war pigs might catch a bit of their own medicine.

    https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/madeleine-albright-6.jpg
    , @anarchyst
    SHAME ON YOU..."lack of meaning"
    YOU and your ilk are responsible for perpetuating the "Vietnam Veteran" stereotype in which YOU paint all of us with a very broad brush. For your information, almost ALL of us Vietnam veterans came back with sound minds to an ungrateful country and quietly resumed our lives without incident or fanfare. The promised government jobs that were mandated into law for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. YOU are of the same ilk as traitor "Hanoi" Jane Fonda who gave "aid and comfort" to the enemy while our POWS were (and are) still in captivity. Very few returning Vietnam veterans had problems...the stereotype that YOU claim...is totally false.
    I notice that you have swallowed the standard "loss of Vietnam" lies hook line and sinker. Americans and South Vietnamese prevailed in every battle...bar none. In fact, TET 1968 was a decisive victory for the South s the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces were decimated. Of course, the American "mainstream media" claimed it was a victory for the communists.
    For your information, the American Vietnam war was not a "civil-war" but was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese, who wanted control of the whole country. The INVASION was allowed to continue when American troops left and South Vietnamese troops were not resupplied.
    YOU must have watched the Ken Burns' "schlockumentary" on Vietnam, in which he built up the North Vietnamese while exacting harsh criticism (lies) on the American and South Vietnamese troops. Of course, to his credit, Burns "let it slip" that the "re-education camps" contrary to communist claims (actually prisons) would be in operation for approximately six months after the war was over--it turns out that many former South Vietnamese were "detained" for as long as twenty years.
    Post-war Vietnam was so wonderful, tens of thousands of "boat people risked life and limb to escape that "communist paradise" [silence].
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  • @Steve Gittelson

    What’s pathetic here is that you think you’re being funny.
     
    What's pathetic is that you conspiracy wackadoodles thinks it makes any difference if any of it IS a product of conspiracy. It doesn't.

    Fine, let's say the 9/11 events are products of conspiracy. Let's say the CIA colluded with Mossad to do it so that America will support and fund Israel ad infinitum. Media foments distrust for all things Arabic. "Hate Islam" reigns, etc.

    So what? What are you going to DO???? How are circumstances and conditions going to change?? How will the corrupted ship of state right itself?

    Heck, personally, I'm inclined to believe the CIA and Mossad had a lot to do with what happened. I think the CIA and Mossad made some converts, provided ideas and support, and let external actors run with it. It doesn't surprise me a bit. Worse, I believe that puneto of a President was in on it from the git-go. Washington is corrupt, criminally treasonous right down to its last little toenail.

    But, so what? The MI-complex rules. Israel dictates at least 80% of all US government policy. The productive class of American citizens is being systematically stripped of all wealth and power.

    So, you want to expose "conspiracies" with a weak sauce of conjecture and Internet gossip? And everything will be fixed? America will return to equal rights under constitutional democracy? The sky will be blue, babies will laugh under the Sun of Freedom, and the Mexicans will go back to Mexico?

    WTF, man? Grow the f--k up.

    So what? What are you going to DO???? How are circumstances and conditions going to change?? How will the corrupted ship of state right itself?

    One useful thing Americans could do with this information is to stop giving them what they wanted out of 911 to begin with. Stop supporting any wars and the next time something big or small happens and they say “and now we need to pass The Patriot Act 2.0″ .. or they need to ban guns, or anytime US citizens are asked to sacrifice their rights, security, blood or treasure as the result of a crisis we can all just say no.

    And yet after the fake chemical gas attack this month nearly everyone is back at it again in the media telling us it was real. I’m assuming most Americans just believe it.

    It’s possible to turn this around. Something like 75% of Americans no longer believed in the Warren Commission by the early 1990′s. And now according to a recent Rasmussen poll 51% of US citizens don’t believe the government’s story on 911.

    This is a good development. Who can be most easily taken advantage of, the credulous or the skeptical? I for one am looking forward to a time when even the conservative Americans who voted for Bush no longer believe in 911 and realize that the justifications for almost every war in the 20th century, including WWI and WWII were all shams.

    It’s not impossible. As Ron Unz himself pointed out that up until about 1949 the standard textbook assumption about the Civil War that most historians openly touted was that the Civil War had little or nothing to do with slavery but instead was to do with northern industrial interests.

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    But, look, the origin of the wager was that it was competely inconceivable to Ron Unz that the story would not check out.

    From the snippets of the discussion that you published, it seems more likely that Ron Unz felt it was unlikely that Betty Ong was NOT in the GWHS yearbook, but that it would be interesting if it turned out she wasn’t. Hence the challenge to JR to prove this (limited) negative by reference to the cardboard-and-paper yearbook.

    If it turns out – as JR suspects – that there may have been some hanky-panky with the digital pages (insertion of the name “Betty Ong”) that diverges from the paper version, the matter becomes even more interesting.

    At 530 comments so far, reader interest appears to be considerable.

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  • In March 2003, Pat Buchanan wrote a groundbreaking article entitled "Whose War?" in opposition to the Bush Administration fueled growing hysteria over Saddam Hussein’s alleged weapons of mass destruction which was producing demands for an armed intervention to disarm him. Buchanan rightly identified a number of prominent Jewish officials and journalists closely tied to the...
  • @tac
    LOL (People are having enough of these anti-Russian propaganda campaigns and are venting their frustrations in various ways):

    https://twitter.com/michaelchildi/status/986418411696742406

    This is one of the poster's I was referring to in my previous reply:

    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/987231852959236096

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  • I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury, amongst other possibilities. But I do rule out the possibility that Assad is dropping chemical weapons in Ghouta. In this extraordinary war, where Saudi-funded jihadist head choppers have Israeli air support and US and UK military “advisers”, every time...
  • @tac
    The comment above only shows Ian56's link, but not PartisanGirl's ...

    I'm not sure what happened to the link to PartisanGirl's response to the Guardian article but here it is again:
    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987386740104036352

    Also RT has an article on these 'Russian Bots':

    https://www.rt.com/uk/424716-uk-government-accuse-bot-russia/

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  • @Fran Macadam
    One fiendish way to neutralize the good counsel of those against these wars, is to state all the many obvious and provable negative motives, properties and consequences of war - but then, sum up by blaming it on "The Joos."

    war – but then, sum up by blaming it on “The Joos.”

    exactly!

    if anything, the “Joos” are trying to stop all these wars!

    who came out strongest against the wars on Iraq, and then Libya and then Syria, if not the ((NYT))?!

    who has condemned the recent bombing of Syria, (over obvious lies about chemical attacks) if not Sheldon Adelson and bb Netanyahu!

    I mean come on, right?

    AIPAC has little to no influence in DC, but still that plucky little voice has been adamant that all of these wars are illegal, misguided and wrong.

    The Kagan ‘cabal’ (as some anti-Semites refer to them) have been demanding investigations into the contrived putsch (Yatz is our guy’) in Ukraine, and all the lies about MH17!

    The entire Jewish media, from CNN to all the rest have been exposing the lies about these wars like no other! Look how they railed at Clinton for her role in Libya!

    But these tiresome anti-Semites will always look for an excuse for their own failures and failings, and it’s not like we haven’t seen this kind of scapegoat blaming before! When you’re having difficulties, there’s the temptation to always find some group to blame and spread blood libels, just as a certain mustached demagogue from history showed us all how it’s done.

    It reminds me of those terrorists in Israel that never lose an opportunity to try to blame “The Joos” for all of their problems, so they attack Israel (on Passover!), and threaten to push her into the sea, demanding Hitlerian calls for genocide, like “The right of Return”!

    They may as well be building gas chambers and ovens with talk like that, and what does the world do?!

    they act all crybaby because a few terrorists got shot. Well what does these modern day Adolf Hitlers think the Jews are going to do when they demand The Right of Return / genocide?

    The Jews suffered the world to walk into those “showers” in the last century. You’ll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again’ this time around.

    From Palestinian terrorists, to neo-white supremacists like Ron Paul and PCR, pooh-poohing these wars, there’s always someone looking for a group to blame for their own mediocrity and incompetence.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    You laughably stated:

    "The Jews suffered the world to walk into those “showers” in the last century. You’ll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again’ this time around."

    Problem is that Jews were not 'holocausted' as they allege. There was no 'millions of Jews murdered', there were no 'gas chambers'. Absurdly impossible. Proof is utterly lacking.

    It's all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.

    The facts are that the 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth?
    Only lies require censorship.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/HHSl.jpg

    , @jacques sheete
    You forgot that we goyim are all motivated by jealousy, too! ;)

    Ya wanna hear something utterly depressing? I was talking to a young lady who's been working on some degree in nursing and she said that they were required to take an "ethics" class. Guess what the big issue was? Yup, "The" Holycaust!!!!

    Cheezus, the holycaust fanatics are everywhere. I mean everywhere and the layers of irony are piled on thick. You can bet your sore emerods that they weren't discussing the "ethics" of making stuff like that up and brainwashing people with it 75 years after it was supposed to have occurred.

    The holocaust conspiracy theorists just never give up. They are obsessed; nutzo! Good grief.
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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Jonathan Revusky

    Interesting that most of the photos of “Betty” on findagrave.com were added in 2017, 16 years after she died, by someone going by “paradise965.” Clicking over to paradise965’s profile on the site, I see they’ve added 81 (!) memorials on the site:

     

    Yeah, I saw that earlier. I came across the same thing but it's not in the article because it's not directly relevant.

    But all that is extraordinary, isn't it? All these murky events and there is a set of people adding virtual memorials for all these alleged victims on that site!

    I almost thought the other commenters had you with this “Betty Ng” (admittedly, facial recognition isn’t my strength), until I saw that. You’d think they’d at least bother to create different usernames for the different events!

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  • Introduction As of April 7, nearly three thousand unarmed Christian, Muslim and secular Palestinians have been wounded, over three dozen are in critical condition and at least twenty-five unarmed protestors, including children have been assassinated by hundreds of Israeli snipers and heavily armed troops shooting tank shells into crowds of civilians protesting their decades of...
  • anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    Actor Gerard Depardieu, singer Charles Aznavour and former President Nicolas Sarkozy are among some 300 well-known French people urging national action to counter a “new anti-Semitism” that they blame on rising Islamic radicalism.
    They signed a manifesto published Sunday in Le Parisien newspaper, joining politicians from the right and left, as well as Jewish, Muslim and Catholic leaders.
    The statement urges prominent Muslims to denounce anti-Jewish and anti-Christian references in the Quran as outdated so “no believer can refer to a holy text to commit a crime.” It also calls for combating anti-Semitism “before it’s too late.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/sns-bc-eu–france-anti-semitism-20180422-story.html

    Audacity of these bastards!! Made possible by the Jews’s support to the anti Islam brouhaha and by the Jew creation of Islamophobia.

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  • During the bombing of Baghdad in January 1991 I went with other journalists on a government-organised trip to what they claimed was the remains of a baby milk plant at Abu Ghraib which the US had just destroyed, saying that it was really a biological warfare facility. Walking around the wreckage, I found a smashed-up...
  • Patrick Cockburn is the same guy who claimed without any evidence that the Syrian government was behind this year and last year’s chemical attacks. Now he says beware of people who claim to know what’s going on in Syria. Sounds like he’s trying to rehabilitate himself.

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  • Introduction As of April 7, nearly three thousand unarmed Christian, Muslim and secular Palestinians have been wounded, over three dozen are in critical condition and at least twenty-five unarmed protestors, including children have been assassinated by hundreds of Israeli snipers and heavily armed troops shooting tank shells into crowds of civilians protesting their decades of...
  • @JoaoAlfaiate
    It matters not what the Palestinians do. They could be led by Gandhi and Mother Teresa but whatever they do, given their opposition to the Zionist enterprise, they are going to be marginalized and demonized.

    “It matters not what the Palestinians do. They could be led by Gandhi and Mother Teresa but whatever they do, given their opposition to the Zionist enterprise, they are going to be marginalized and demonized.”

    Israel’s George Washington David Ben Gurion – “It doesn’t matter what the goy (non Jews) think – it only matter what the Jews do.”

    Ben Gurion already knew that they already effectively controlled the world via their effective control of England, United States, France and via the Rothchild’s and other Jew’s banking empire and their control of the mass media. They have been doing what they or anyone should ever try to do i.e, become masters of the world in order to be mankind’s blessing and light etc. for a long time. Strabo a Greek cartographer said he “found them in high places everywhere” in every country he traveled through. Cicero in 50 BC feared their power in Rome. Voltaire wrote that he wouldn’t be surprised ‘if these people will one day become deadly to the human race.” Ben Franklin and George Washington thought they were dangerous to the Republic. And here they are being revered venerated celebrated adored bootlicked brown nosed kowtow fawned funded and protected and groveled before – and justifiably feared because they never forget and never forgive – by not only the entire United States but also by the entire Christian West and all of it’s international allies.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @mark green
    Well-written article, but Andrew Bacevich avoids (as usual) examining--or even mentioning--(1) the massive money, (2) entrenched political machinery, and (3) intellectual sleight-of-hand which funds, formulates, and justifies Washington's lopsided and murderous Mideast 'foreign policies'.

    Shall we count the bodies together, Andrew?

    Iraq, for instance, was a functioning and rising society before Zio-American forces went in there and annihilated it. Millions died or were wounded. Millions more have been displaced. Chaos came next.

    Shouldn't the perpetrators be identified and punished, Mr. Bacevich?

    Any thoughts on crime and punishment?

    In the meantime, let's see if we can detect a pattern in all this.

    Here's the hit list:

    Anti-Zionist Iraq: Crushed and neutralized. Anti-Zionist Syria: In ruins. Anti-Zionist Palestine: Under siege and in permanent lockdown. Anti-Zionist Libya: Dismembered and neutralized. And (coming soon): Death, misery and mayhem delivered to pro-Palestinian (and anti-Zionist) Lebanon and pro-Palestinian (anti-Zionist) Iran.

    Is there a pattern here?--(one that Mr. Bacevich failed to notice)

    Perhaps.

    Are there pro-Zionist fingerprints in this crime scene?

    Oh, maybe.

    With entire nations destroyed, does this massive destruction not have the appearance of a criminal enterprise?

    Possibly.

    But support our troops!

    Bibi was right when he (privately) whispered to a concerned Israeli: "Don't worry about America. America can be moved."

    So true.

    America has certainly been 'moved'.

    We are headed over a cliff!

    But Bacevich barely notices. His 'scholarship' is typical of the Zionist-friendly, PC drivel that emanates from 'TomDispatch'.

    Fact: Zio-Washington is on a prolonged, blood-soaked, trillion-dollar killing spree.

    Can we talk about it?

    Death, discord and destruction (of Israel's foes) is the objective.

    So from an Israeli perspective, things are going very well in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Palestine.

    Israel is rising. Her foes are sinking.

    America's 'military disasters' are just what the Jewish doctor ordered. Mission accomplished!

    Yet all Bacevich can finally say is that America's all-volunteer army is "the root cause of our predicament".

    Are we to take this man seriously?

    What about Israel's de facto ownership of the US Congress, Andrew?

    Any thoughts about 'patterns' of ownership of American mass media, Mr. Bacevich?

    Maybe next article, eh?

    Bacevich as presented his readers a huge puzzle which he is determined not to solve. Perhaps that's his objective.

    Great post, just what I think.

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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • @Anonymous
    It's a package deal. If they take out Russia, global domination is virtually assured and Israel will get the World's crown sooner or later. At the heart of it there's a messianic lunacy and that's why we're facing WW3 at, say, 90% probability.

    I saw this in the brochure:

    Refuge for the Jews..
    Guard the flank of the Suez for the British..
    Western capitalist power against the Arab Soviet back Socialists for the cold warriors..
    Democracy in the Middle East for Americans..
    Jesus is coming soon for the Evangelicals ..
    Access to oil for the Investment bankers ..

    Something in it for everyone, yay.

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @DESERT FOX
    The attack on 911 was done by Israel and the deep state ziocons and no planes were used only holograms of planes, the WTC was hit with directed energy weapons and 7 WTC buildings were destroyed.

    The pentagon was a preplanted charge ie no plane or missile hit the pentagon.

    Check Dr. Judy Wood.com for details and check the youtube videos the John Lear.

    The attack on 911 was done by Israel and the deep state ziocons

    Agreed on this only. Nothing else you said seems reasonable or even necessary. Stay away from Judy Wood. I suspect someone is paying her to be that obnoxious.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • As a Vietnam War vet, I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: “Thank you for your service.”

    How do they know what kind of service I rendered? Was it honorable or dishonorable? Did I perform my duties or just drink booze and chase the native women? Most of us serving did a little bit of all of the foregoing.

    But methinks the Col. doesn’t understand Trump and his followers. The worldwide transition of values and forces will hasten immanent events that will rock the post-war foundations is ongoing, but not elevated up to the public consciousness yet. Stay tuned. April showers bring May flowers.

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    I would encourage you not to despise the good will of citizens, even when it is irritating. I appreciate your service. I honor your sacrifice in Vietnam and millions of S. Vietnamese respect what you and your fellows did on their behalf. We generally assume that you served honorably, if not that is a matter for you to rest with your conscience.


    I want to encourage you to embrace whatever blessings citizens can and are willing to bestow -- even if in the main said bequeathed is obtuse and annoying. No one wants to insult vets, well few anymore and no one can immediately heal the wounds of an ungrateful and vastly misinformed citizenry on the issue of Vietnam. But I like to encourage you to let them try and embrace it the same -----


    excuse or not my well intentioned comments. I tell me father repeatedly, "Appreciate your service" he too served in Vietnam and elsewhere.


    so great a sacrifice none can repay . . .
    , @Steve Gittelson

    April showers bring May flowers.
     
    If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?
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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Steve Gittelson

    NIST admitted in their study and analysis of WTC7 that it fell at free-fall for 2.25 seconds or roughly 8 stories.
     
    Let me give you just a trifling bit of assistance with your wild-eyed horror at the thought of NIST making a statement without absolute qualification on all physical phenomena related .... : NOTHING falls in atmosphere as pure "free fall". NOTHING. Got that?

    Yes, I know ... that just means NIST was part of the conspiracy.

    Oh, lord, why am I talking to loons?

    There, there, everyone knows that nothing “perfect” exists anywhere, not even a perfect vacuum in outer space where there is at least a molecule of something every cubic yard or so. So of course, the buildings did not fall in “perfect free fall.” There was some air resistance. “Free fall” is just a manner of speaking to say that they fell because they were demolished with a controlled demolition, that’ s all. And of course, it was not a “perfectly” controlled demolition either, but it did the job.

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  • @Brabantian
    Italy's former President, Francesco Cossiga, flat-out told Italy's largest newspaper, the Corriere della Serra, that major governments in Europe all privately know, that 9-11 was run by USA & Mossad
    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2818/217/original.jpg

    Thanks, if anyone wants a link:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/ex-italian-president-intel-agencies-know-9-11-an-inside-job/7550

    Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, Francesco Cossiga, has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy’s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

    Cossiga was elected President of Italian Senate in July 1983 before being winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.

    Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed – an honest politician – and led the country for seven years until April 1992.

    Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio – a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s.

    Gladio’s specialty was to carry out what they coined “false flag operations,” terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.

    Cossiga’s revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of Gladio in 2000, during which evidence was unearthed that the attacks were being overseen by the U.S. intelligence apparatus.

    In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force … the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.”

    Cossiga’s new revelations appeared last week in Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.

    “[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe … now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part … in Iraq [and] Afghanistan.”

    Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9/11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley’s book as stating that “The mastermind of the attack must have been a “sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.”

    Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga’s assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals – he can’t be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist.a

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  • So you can’t just start going on saying that these people are repeating the story, therefore the story must be true, because that is precisely the proposition that is under dispute! Can’t you see that?

    Why do you think I can’t see that? Of course I see it!!! The next logical question then becomes, is the entire story false or is some of it false, and if some of it’s false, which parts are false and which are true? That’s what I’m interested in, not your Wager.

    If it doesn’t mean any more to you than the Wager, then why are you even bothering with it any longer? You’ve proven your point, and if you’re not curious beyond that, well, that’s your prerogative, but I’m still curious.

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    To satisfy your curiosity, it occurs to me that the Social Security Death Index might be something to check. It's public record and you have two points to enter: her name and the date of death.

    I'd think that if she's real and she died on 9/11/2001, there would be a record for her.
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  • @Sean
    According to Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying In International Politics by John J. Mearsheimer (Oxford University Press) Lying isn't necessary, useful or even possible most of the time.
    A False Flag 9/11 would require total mastery of US government, intelligence security, police, and most crucially the army, which could always stage a coup. It just isn't that easy to be make a selfish penguin conspiracy work. A nation state is not as sophisticated as a bunch on penguins.

    A False Flag 9/11 would require total mastery of US government, intelligence security, police, ….

    This reflects such confused, warped thinking. Let’s try to unravel this a bit… Think about this question:

    If a political faction did have total mastery over every power center in the country, why would they need to execute a False Flag psy-op in the first place?

    I mean, just think about that a bit.

    You see, there are various proven false flags in history, like the Mukden incident where the Japs had a “terrorist attack” on their own railway somewhere in Manchuria, I think. But the point of the false flag is that the faction that wants to get the country further into the situation in China, they execute the operation to make their case for the policy they want.

    If the faction behind the false flag already had total mastery over every power center, then they just do WTF they want! They don’t need the false flag in the first place!

    Aside from the proven false flags, like that one, there are almost certain false flags, like the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana Harbor. And so on…

    But the reason for the false flag is that there is a political faction that wants whatever policy (typically some war of aggression that will be presented as not being a war of aggression) and to get that policy, they execute this psy-op to pave the way for the policy they want that would otherwise be politically impossible, typically because most people do not want that policy, they don’t want the wars etc….

    So, the war party that executes the false flag does so precisely because they do not have total control.

    Okay, that’s enough on your plate for now. The above is just like Deep Politics 101. Just think about it.

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  • Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    But bizarrely George Washington High School, per your 75th Anniversary Link, contends she did attend their school even though she’s not listed in the Yearbook.
     
    Well, actually, to be precise, the 75th anniversary event would be organized by the alumni association, I suppose, not the school administration specifically. That is why it's a separate website.

    But, look, the origin of the wager was that it was competely inconceivable to Ron Unz that the story would not check out. To the extent that he told me I was wasting my time to even bother.

    So, if Ron Unz reasons this way, it stands to reason that the people who set up that website likely reason the same way. It was so widely reported that Betty Ong graduated from George Washington High School in 1974 that they never checked!

    The fundamental problem here is that the Ronnie Unz reasoning in question is flawed. The repetition of a story does not make it true! That was what, in final analysis, the wager was about.

    So you can't just start going on saying that these people are repeating the story, therefore the story must be true, because that is precisely the proposition that is under dispute! Can't you see that?


    Perhaps George Washington High School can provide copies of her Original Transcripts since she isn’t shown in the Yearbook.
     
    Well, I didn't have a wager with Ron Unz about any transcripts, just about the yearbook.

    Maybe you can make a wager with him on this. (I'm personally tired of the whole thing so I leave it to you.)

    However, if Unz makes a separate wager with you on the transcripts, I would like him to pay me off on this wager on the yearbook first.

    Speaking of that site, further examination yields oddities in sfgenealogy. Several people on that site are clearly misidentified or misspelled: Mark O’Neill has become Mark O’Niel, for instance. Lisa Look, who pays tribute to Betty Ong on the sign-in page, identifies herself as graduating in ’75 but is listed as graduating in ’76. So I don’t think other errors are unlikely.

    You did make a plausible enough case to intrigue me enough to make me waste several hours of my life (which is probably about what you spent), I’ll give you that, but if that’s all …

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    JR has provided a link where George Washington High School heralds Betty Ong as their most Distinguished Alumnus.
     
    Well, they don't say that explicitly. The main page of that site, specifically for the celebration of the school's 75th anniversary, has Betty up top. She is in a higher position than the actor Danny Glover, or Maya Angelou, or the singer Johnny Mathis, whose photos appear lower down on the page. That is here:

    http://www.gwhs75thanniversary.com/

    Unless that link JR provided is bogus.
     
    Dude, the above site is something I just found in a search. It is a website related to the celebration of the 75th anniversary of that school. 1936-2011. It never crossed my mind that it was anything other than what it represents itself as, because it is beyond my comprehension that anybody would create such an elaborate hoax just for the pure heck of it!

    Do you seriously think there is much possibility that that site is fraudulent?

    Dude, the above site is something I just found in a search. It is a website related to the celebration of the 75th anniversary of that school. 1936-2011. It never crossed my mind that it was anything other than what it represents itself as, because it is beyond my comprehension that anybody would create such an elaborate hoax just for the pure heck of it!

    Do you seriously think there is much possibility that that site is fraudulent?

    Dude, chill. I’m not saying you made the website up. No, I don’t seriously think the site is fraudulent.

    You’re making a leap yourself by claiming those responsible for the 75th anniversary site heralded Betty as a prominent alumnus based off of the news stories. You don’t know that. Maybe they did, or maybe they didn’t.

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    No he should not. You must get a hard copies of yearbooks
     
    Utu, did Ron Unz appoint you as his advocate? If Ron Unz wants to argue that the only way to settle the question is with a hard copy, let him show up and make the argument. But there is no point in arguing with you!

    The digital copy can be altered by people like you.
     
    No, it can't. The digital copy is up there on the classmates.com site. I have no way of altering it. (Maybe somebody else has the means to alter that, but NOT ME!)

    You're just talking shit and obviously doing so out of personal hostility towards me. Be hostile towards me, fine, but find some legitimate arguments if you can. Don't just start picking up random shit and flinging it at me like a monkey. (Though, okay, I suppose you can't help it, it's in your nature...)


    It is possible you did tin order to swindle Ron Unz.
     
    Well, it's not possible because I cannot alter the version on the classmates.com website. Anybody can sign up for an account there and peruse the yearbooks. The graphics in the article are just screenshots I took when doing so. Anybody can do that. When I sent Unz the email outlining what I had found out, I gave him the URL's to do so but pointed out that you need to sign in with a (free) account to do that. That's all. But it's easy to do so. Actually, here is the URL for the page with "Black Betty" on it.

    http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yearbooks/4182821566?page=157&searchTerm=betty&yearbookViewerEnabled=true&swipeEnabled=true

    But if you don't have an account, it redirects you to a login page and you need to sign up for an account. You do that and log in and try that URL and you'll see. But you would know that if you weren't such a pathetic bullshitter, because you would have gone through those steps.

    And the whole idea that I have some project of swindling Unz is preposterous! What is this? The classic swindle where you induce somebody to wager $10,000 that somebody is in a yearbook??!!

    Sure, that's a classic confidence trick, up there with selling people swamp land in Florida!


    He clearly stated (presuming that what you cite indeed came from his email) that you should spend $500 or so and get the hard copy.
     
    That is basically nonsense. Ron was just thinking out loud about how I could get my hands on a yearbook, that's all. There was no requirement that I spend $500 to get one! Like, suppose I was in Frisco and happened on the yearbook in a box of old junk at a garage sale and somebody sold it to me for $1. Are you saying that this would be no good because there was a requirement for me to spend $500 on the yearbook?

    This is just all such nonsense. And even if it were not such nonsense, it would be a waste of time to argue with you or anybody else here who is NOT Ron Unz! Unz did not appoint you as his advocate! If he wants to show up and argue that he did not lose the wager because of blah blah blah, then let him show up and argue the case. And if he declines to do that, then he has OBVIOUSLY conceded the wager. The wager was about whether this person, the Betty Ong who made the phone call on 9/11, the Chinese flight attendant, is in the yearbook. She clearly is NOT!

    That is basically nonsense. Ron was just thinking out loud about how I could get my hands on a yearbook, that’s all. There was no requirement that I spend $500 to get one!

    Are you for real? Do you really believe there was a formal bet and now it is you who can interpret what ever was written in emails between you and RU to your advantage? I still thought a bit (not much but a tiny bit) more about you thinking that perhaps you are interested in finding some facts about Betty Ong but it looks like you just want the money because RU happened to inadvertently utter the amount of $10k and actually you believe that you deserve it. What a chutzpah!

    Ron Unz definitively should not pay you anything, though as I wrote earlier it would be nice if he hired a PI to investigate existence of Betty Ong. And definitively he should not engage in personal communication with you. Nobody should.

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • Russia is not irked by the resignation. Declarations indicate indifference toward the unrest.

    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/moscow-reacts-to-resignation-of-armenian-prime-minister-sargsyan-61243

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Sean
    According to Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying In International Politics by John J. Mearsheimer (Oxford University Press) Lying isn't necessary, useful or even possible most of the time.
    A False Flag 9/11 would require total mastery of US government, intelligence security, police, and most crucially the army, which could always stage a coup. It just isn't that easy to be make a selfish penguin conspiracy work. A nation state is not as sophisticated as a bunch on penguins.

    Sorry I engaged you. I forgot you are an idiot after all.

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    It takes an idiot, like you, to recognize another fucking idiot, like sean.

    Both of you are also pathetic liars and trolls.
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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    But bizarrely George Washington High School, per your 75th Anniversary Link, contends she did attend their school even though she’s not listed in the Yearbook.
     
    Well, actually, to be precise, the 75th anniversary event would be organized by the alumni association, I suppose, not the school administration specifically. That is why it's a separate website.

    But, look, the origin of the wager was that it was competely inconceivable to Ron Unz that the story would not check out. To the extent that he told me I was wasting my time to even bother.

    So, if Ron Unz reasons this way, it stands to reason that the people who set up that website likely reason the same way. It was so widely reported that Betty Ong graduated from George Washington High School in 1974 that they never checked!

    The fundamental problem here is that the Ronnie Unz reasoning in question is flawed. The repetition of a story does not make it true! That was what, in final analysis, the wager was about.

    So you can't just start going on saying that these people are repeating the story, therefore the story must be true, because that is precisely the proposition that is under dispute! Can't you see that?


    Perhaps George Washington High School can provide copies of her Original Transcripts since she isn’t shown in the Yearbook.
     
    Well, I didn't have a wager with Ron Unz about any transcripts, just about the yearbook.

    Maybe you can make a wager with him on this. (I'm personally tired of the whole thing so I leave it to you.)

    However, if Unz makes a separate wager with you on the transcripts, I would like him to pay me off on this wager on the yearbook first.

    I’m not disputing the verity or specifics of the Wager. I’m genuinely interested in this and in getting to the bottom of it. The Wager part of it, for me at least, is non-essential. For you, yes, I realize, $10,000 is nothing to sneeze at and it’s also a matter of principle. I understand, but I have no dog in that fight.

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    Cold N. Holefield commented:
    "The Wager part of it, for me at least, is non-essential. For you, yes, I realize, $10,000 is nothing to sneeze at and it’s also a matter of principle."

    Hi Cold N. Holefield,

    Agreed, above, and thanks for writing such practical sense!

    Ideally, Jon Revusky's article was written for a principled purpose.

    I trust J.R. did the work as a result of having made a choice between the forces of enlightenment & truth versus those of endarkenment & lies.

    For me, on the bright side, the anecdotal Unz / Revusky "wager" proliferates comments, but I'd like to see both scholarly men "pool" what is now apparent about the Phantom of The Flight 11 Opera, Betty Ong.

    P.S.:
    Terrific literary "screen name" pun, Cold N. Holefield! Thanks!
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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • @Dmitry
    That's the logical and rational view.

    But EU is also worshiped by some - middle-class and educated - Western demographics as a new religion.

    Even in the UK, it was very divided, the society, on this question - and the end result of the voting was within a couple of percent.

    And the UK - is the country in the EU, with the lowest approval ratings for the EU.

    In addition, I would worry that younger generations are very brainwashed into this religion.

    This is much more amongst people like Spanish. When I was learning Spanish, I used read sometimes the Spanish newspaper websites - and they publish many irrational and emotional articles saying how wonderful the EU is (it is a very accepted viewpoint there).

    The young quite like the prospect of being able to work, travel, study and live without restriction in a polity of half a billion people. How they live their lives and spend their time predisposes them to favour the EU.

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  • @Sean
    Revusky would need to have put up his own money for there to be an actual wager. The bet never really existed at all except in his narrative. Bad Betty.

    Revusky would need to have put up his own money for there to be an actual wager.

    My side of the wager was to put in the work to verify this.

    At various times, Ron stated that he was 99.99% certain that all the details about Betty Ong’s life would check out, i.e. nothing to see here. Okay, the 99.99% could just be a figure of speech, but if you do take that literally, that means that a bet of $10,000 against one dollar would be statistically a “fair bet”. And one dollar, to all intents and purposes, is just nothing.

    In any case, I certainly did a lot more than one dollar’s worth of effort to put the information here together!

    The bet never really existed at all except in his narrative.

    Well, although Ron has been quite a dick about this whole thing, he never attempted to deny, either in private or in public, that the wager existed.

    Now, if Ron now wants to change his position (even though I have private emails over the last couple of weeks where Ron clearly accepts there was a wager) and say there never really was a wager, it was all in jest or whatever, then he would have to show up and say so.

    There are all these clowns (you’re not the only one) who act as if Ron appointed them to be his advocate! This is ridiculous!

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • @Hyperborean
    Just because the people selling their country to the highest bidder only care about getting the highest price doesn't mean ordinary Georgians don't resent it.

    Considering how even in full-pozzed London I've heard ordinary people complain about all the foreign oligarchs buying up everything, I don't find it hard to believe that Georgians might find it painful.

    Outside of a few ritzy neighborhoods which would have been out of reach of the ordinary locals going back decades, foreign oligarchs have not been buying that much property in London. Low interest rates are the primary reason prices have skyrocketed.

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    Well that's what I hear from people there. Although, you are right that the perception and actual cause of the problem are not necessarily the same.
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  • @Mitleser

    It came from the investment in capital/technology.
     
    That and very favorable geography which includes cheap water and soil.

    https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/usa_great.jpg

    And all those waterways connecting to the world ocean. Almost free transport.

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  • @Polish Perspective

    I understand we needed foreigners to run the show
     
    There's a significant difference between taking in selective FDI in key industries and outright letting "foreigners run the show". East Asia and especially China did the former. Are you sure you are a nationalist?

    but please don’t turn this into a morality play of how they are supposed to “subsidize” us.
     
    My argument is much simpler. The West gains more from the East once you consider all three factors: public funds, private funds and labour movement. In the debate, we only hear about the first. We never hear about the last two.

    Therefore, the solution I prefer is clean and simple: we stop receiving public funds(literal pay-off money) and they stop getting free labour+monopolistic access to our domestic market. Don't forget that 75% of our EU funds are re-invested in Western European companies.

    The thing is, the West knows this. Günther Öttinger, who is in charge of cohesion funds has all but admitted this. There's a quote I'm too lazy to google where he says in half-jest that if anything the EU should pay EE countries more. But instead of that, my preferred option would achieve a far cleaner break. However, the West would also never agree to it, precisely because they know the real scorecard, which is why their threats of cutting EU funds during the asylum crisis was always a hoax.

    It's interesting, but perhaps not surprising, that Eastern Europeans like yourself have completely and whoolly swallowed the "you should be grateful" meme, while warning about "morality tales" when you aren't advocating for your own colonisation of "letting foreigners running the show".

    I doubt most Poles would be keen to ditch the opportunity of making German wages out of some sort of nationalistic amour propre.

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  • @Thorfinnsson
    Low domestic gas prices are only a problem if it results in production dropping below domestic demand, with demand substituted by imports.

    Obviously this will not happen since the imports themselves would be LNG, excluding Canadian imports which are benign (and Canada doesn't have enough reserves to replace American producers in bulk).

    Increased gas production to satisfy export demand will simply result in us running out of gas reserves sooner at the expensive of a smaller heavy industrial production base.

    In the long-term I'm also skeptical of the viability of LNG in any case. With the development of OBOR and Russia's own efforts it's inevitable that FSU and Persian Gulf gas will be delivered to East Asia by pipeline.

    It's also worth pointing out that according to the US Energy Information Agency that China presently has the world's largest reserves of technically recoverable shale gas. Exploitation is a problem owing to distance from water resources and a lack of technological expertise.

    These are surmountable problems as proven by America's fracking industry. Both the Eagle Ford and Bakken formations are in dry areas not very close to fresh water, and the fracking industry didn't even exist at the turn of the century. Dick Cheney promoted invading Iraq because his energy working group predicted that by this time America would be importing 90% of its oil consumption.

    Meanwhile larger and more competitive industries in chemicals, steel, fertilizer, plastics, cement, etc. add more final value and represent a greater overall level of product complexity and technical efficiency. As most of these products are themselves intermediate input goods they'll increase the competitiveness of our final goods industries as well.

    Another possible use of our gas supremacy is in our world class freight railroad system. Currently this system is diesel-based. The Burlington Northern Santa Fe railroad (a Berkshire Hathaway subsidiary) is currently experimenting with gas-powered locomotives.

    China (and Asia in general) are going to be severely water-stressed over the next few decades.

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  • Trump pulled the trigger, but instead of a “bang!” what the world heard was a demure “click”. Considering that we are talking about playing a most dangerous game of potentially nuclear Russian AngloZionist roulette, the “click” is very good news indeed. But, to use the words of Nikki Haley, the US “gun” is still “locked...
  • @Harold Smith
    "I honestly don’t know who in the US should get the credit for doing the right thing, but that person(s) deserves our collective gratitude. Rumors say that Mattis was the man, others point to Dunford and some even to Trump himself (I doubt that). Again, I don’t know who did it, but this action deserves a standing ovation."

    I believe the decision to scale back the missile attack on Syria was made by Orange Clown's jewish-supremacist handlers themselves. As I see it, Orange Clown and the "people" around him are nothing but props. The whole Orange Clown administration is pure political theater, IMO.

    I think the reason Bolton was appointed (and the reason Mattis has not been fired), is because the juxtaposition of the two – on either side of the arbitrary and capricious Orange Clown – gives our gamesmen maximum propagandistic flexibility in their psyop against humanity.

    When a bellicose Trump makes threats, we're to take it that he’s merely channeling Bolton. Then the gamesmen observe the response of the "system", and they’re free to appropriately follow up with anything on the spectrum from bloodthirsty psychopath (Bolton) to that of a somewhat more reasonable bastard (Mattis).

    I think this Bolton/Mattis dialectic is exemplified with the strike against Syria. Orange Clown was ordered by his handlers to marshal the naval strike group and make the necessary threats, i.e., to provide the stimulus, then the gamesmen studied the Russian response. And when the Russians put their ships to sea and the Russian Airborne Command Center took to flight or whatever, they assessed that Russia would respond militarily. Apparently not yet willing to start WW3, they had the flexibility to take a step back and attribute it to the influence of Mattis, thus limiting the loss of face.

    Anyway, the big picture here, as I see it, is that Orange Clown and his handlers are faced with the same problem that Obama and his handlers had: All the low-hanging fruit has already been picked. And any attempt to pick the fruit hanging at a higher level, e.g. Syria, is associated with some very serious risks.

    In the confusion that reigned immediately after Orange Clown’s inauguration, the opportunistic Orange Clown was able to quickly prop a ladder up against the tree, and start climbing (something that Hillary Clinton wouldn’t have been able to do). Despite Orange Clown's affectatious posturing, it has now become clear that Orange Clown intended to pick the fruit himself (of course for his handlers), rather than spray the insects threatening the fruit, as he had disingenuously intimated.

    So here we are now at a stalemate, albeit a very dangerous one, with Vladimir Putin trying to avoid a nuclear war (but already backed into a corner and ready to fight if forced), and Orange Clown’s handlers working day and night, interminably probing and pushing the limits, trying to come up with their next move.

    Perhaps the next "click" will be some kind of catastrophic false-flag attack?

    Perhaps the next “click” will be some kind of catastrophic false-flag attack?

    To be “catastrophic” means that Russia gets false-flagged, not Syria or Iran. It could happen. The Zionists want “regime change” with the destruction of Syria and Iran, and they’re not going to get it while the Russians remain in the area .

    False-flags need time, preparation and co-ordination, and a clue might be the current intense anti-Russian propaganda. Modern day Zionist false-flags always seem to start with a preparatory media barrage against the target, and there’s no doubt that Russia is getting the treatment.

    They could sink a US Navy ship to get their war, but what would the subsequent US assault look like? and with what kind of Russian response? It’s given that the US can’t fight a ground war in Syria and Iran, and it’s navy and air force are too exposed to modern weapons, so as Saker suggests it could quickly develop into a Middle East nuclear war.

    This would give Israel/US/Saudi Arabia their victory, with the bet that Russia would pull back from a full inter-continental nuclear engagement given that only Syrian and Iranian targets are hit with nuclear weapons.

    However, if the fated bullet happened to be in that fated chamber, the Russians would decide to get it over with, and flatten Israel, New York, Washington, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, the Pentagon, Langley etc. with a few thousand warheads to spare.

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    It’s given that the US can’t fight a ground war in Syria and Iran, and it’s navy and air force are too exposed to modern weapons....
     
    Wishful thinking.

    US can fight those ground wars and the other side is more exposed to modern weapons.
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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Seamus Day

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”
     

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    The biological purpose of war is to kill off ignorant, violent people and those who value themselves so little that they willing to risk their lives follow orders from literally anyone with a dollar in their pocket.

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  • Anonymous[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @gsjackson
    I go to baseball games regularly at the local university, and whenever a member of the U.S. military is identified as being in the audience he stands on the home dugout and receives a rousing two-minute standing ovation from virtually ever one of the roughly 3,500 souls assembled. It is beyond bizarre, especially for someone who was on campus during Vietnam. And quite scary.

    I go to baseball games regularly at the local university, and whenever a member of the U.S. military is identified as being in the audience he stands on the home dugout and receives a rousing two-minute standing ovation from virtually ever one of the roughly 3,500 souls assembled. It is beyond bizarre, especially for someone who was on campus during Vietnam. And quite scary.

    My dad, who is a WWII veteran in his 90’s, saw heavy combat and received a Purple Heart and still has shrapnel in him from a Japanese grenade. He hates to be thanked for his service and never stands in church on Veterans Day weekend when they ask for veterans to stand. He thinks this glorification of people who “served” is total ludicrous and they should not get any benefits or preference for it. He said no one ever mentioned being in the war, and especially not simply being in the military, when he was younger.

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Tyrion 2
    If there's a girl who looks the same, graduated at the same time, cannot be identified as a different person, has the same English first name and has the same Chinese surname then she surely is the same whatever small and understandable typo may have been made in a student produced yearbook.

    Until Revusky discounts this perfectly sensible set of inferences he cannot be said to have won the bet. A one letter transliteration mistake is hum drum. All of the conspiracy freaks keep ignoring this...I assume because they have no answer to it.

    Revusky would need to have put up his own money for there to be an actual wager. The bet never really existed at all except in his narrative. Bad Betty.

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    Revusky would need to have put up his own money for there to be an actual wager.
     
    My side of the wager was to put in the work to verify this.

    At various times, Ron stated that he was 99.99% certain that all the details about Betty Ong's life would check out, i.e. nothing to see here. Okay, the 99.99% could just be a figure of speech, but if you do take that literally, that means that a bet of $10,000 against one dollar would be statistically a "fair bet". And one dollar, to all intents and purposes, is just nothing.

    In any case, I certainly did a lot more than one dollar's worth of effort to put the information here together!

    The bet never really existed at all except in his narrative.
     
    Well, although Ron has been quite a dick about this whole thing, he never attempted to deny, either in private or in public, that the wager existed.

    Now, if Ron now wants to change his position (even though I have private emails over the last couple of weeks where Ron clearly accepts there was a wager) and say there never really was a wager, it was all in jest or whatever, then he would have to show up and say so.

    There are all these clowns (you're not the only one) who act as if Ron appointed them to be his advocate! This is ridiculous!
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  • @Cold N. Holefield

    Anyway, I am not the one who claims that Betty Ong went to this school. (I kinda doubt it frankly.) I’m just checking a fact that appeared in a lot of different places in the MSM. And Ron’s wager, of course, was based on the idea that Ronnie can’t conceive of such a widely reported “fact” not being so! So he never thought his $10,000 was at any real risk! (Think again, Ronnie…)
     
    But bizarrely George Washington High School, per your 75th Anniversary Link, contends she did attend their school even though she's not listed in the Yearbook. Perhaps George Washington High School can provide copies of her Original Transcripts since she isn't shown in the Yearbook.

    What is it with the Chinese and these Terrorist Spectacle Events? Dun Meng's claim he was carjacked by the alleged Boston Bombers is also a bizarre story. And then we have the steel from the World Trade Center site being quickly disposed of to a Chinese Company, Baosteel. At least they were smart enough not to sell it to an Israeli Company. That would have been a bit too audacious, I suppose.

    Mangled WTC Steel Bought By China

    On a lighter note, nobody names their daughters Betty anymore. Or Barbara. Thank goodness.

    But bizarrely George Washington High School, per your 75th Anniversary Link, contends she did attend their school even though she’s not listed in the Yearbook.

    Well, actually, to be precise, the 75th anniversary event would be organized by the alumni association, I suppose, not the school administration specifically. That is why it’s a separate website.

    But, look, the origin of the wager was that it was competely inconceivable to Ron Unz that the story would not check out. To the extent that he told me I was wasting my time to even bother.

    So, if Ron Unz reasons this way, it stands to reason that the people who set up that website likely reason the same way. It was so widely reported that Betty Ong graduated from George Washington High School in 1974 that they never checked!

    The fundamental problem here is that the Ronnie Unz reasoning in question is flawed. The repetition of a story does not make it true! That was what, in final analysis, the wager was about.

    So you can’t just start going on saying that these people are repeating the story, therefore the story must be true, because that is precisely the proposition that is under dispute! Can’t you see that?

    Perhaps George Washington High School can provide copies of her Original Transcripts since she isn’t shown in the Yearbook.

    Well, I didn’t have a wager with Ron Unz about any transcripts, just about the yearbook.

    Maybe you can make a wager with him on this. (I’m personally tired of the whole thing so I leave it to you.)

    However, if Unz makes a separate wager with you on the transcripts, I would like him to pay me off on this wager on the yearbook first.

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    I'm not disputing the verity or specifics of the Wager. I'm genuinely interested in this and in getting to the bottom of it. The Wager part of it, for me at least, is non-essential. For you, yes, I realize, $10,000 is nothing to sneeze at and it's also a matter of principle. I understand, but I have no dog in that fight.
    , @Anon
    Speaking of that site, further examination yields oddities in sfgenealogy. Several people on that site are clearly misidentified or misspelled: Mark O'Neill has become Mark O'Niel, for instance. Lisa Look, who pays tribute to Betty Ong on the sign-in page, identifies herself as graduating in '75 but is listed as graduating in '76. So I don't think other errors are unlikely.

    You did make a plausible enough case to intrigue me enough to make me waste several hours of my life (which is probably about what you spent), I'll give you that, but if that's all ...
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  • @utu

    I don’t know anything “FOR SURE” and neither do you. No one in this world does because no one may have absolute verification of data, no matter how loudly and persistently they call for it.
     
    This is true. Nevertheless some narratives are considered more true, more known, more factual than others. Truth in this context is merely a rhetorical device. Who poses the truth wins. But in fact it is the other way around: who wins poses the truth.

    According to Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying In International Politics by John J. Mearsheimer (Oxford University Press) Lying isn’t necessary, useful or even possible most of the time.
    A False Flag 9/11 would require total mastery of US government, intelligence security, police, and most crucially the army, which could always stage a coup. It just isn’t that easy to be make a selfish penguin conspiracy work. A nation state is not as sophisticated as a bunch on penguins.

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    Sorry I engaged you. I forgot you are an idiot after all.
    , @Jonathan Revusky

    A False Flag 9/11 would require total mastery of US government, intelligence security, police, ....
     
    This reflects such confused, warped thinking. Let's try to unravel this a bit... Think about this question:

    If a political faction did have total mastery over every power center in the country, why would they need to execute a False Flag psy-op in the first place?

    I mean, just think about that a bit.

    You see, there are various proven false flags in history, like the Mukden incident where the Japs had a "terrorist attack" on their own railway somewhere in Manchuria, I think. But the point of the false flag is that the faction that wants to get the country further into the situation in China, they execute the operation to make their case for the policy they want.

    If the faction behind the false flag already had total mastery over every power center, then they just do WTF they want! They don't need the false flag in the first place!

    Aside from the proven false flags, like that one, there are almost certain false flags, like the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana Harbor. And so on...

    But the reason for the false flag is that there is a political faction that wants whatever policy (typically some war of aggression that will be presented as not being a war of aggression) and to get that policy, they execute this psy-op to pave the way for the policy they want that would otherwise be politically impossible, typically because most people do not want that policy, they don't want the wars etc....

    So, the war party that executes the false flag does so precisely because they do not have total control.

    Okay, that's enough on your plate for now. The above is just like Deep Politics 101. Just think about it.

    , @daniel le mouche
    I apologize for my earlier comment where I thought we were in agreement.
    Oxford University? They couldn't POSSIBLY be in on it, could they?? THEM, INSIDERS??
    And that was quite a gem,
    'A nation state is not as sophisticated as a bunch of penguins.'
    I'm beginning to think you are indeed yourself a penguin, and good for you.
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  • @Cold N. Holefield
    You doubt JR AND you doubt George Washington High School? I don't understand your stance or argument if you have one.

    JR has provided a link where George Washington High School heralds Betty Ong as their most Distinguished Alumnus. Are they lying? If they are, why would they lie about something like this? Are they mistaken? If they're mistaken, how the hell could they be about something like this? I would think they'd verify it before heralding it, don't you?

    Unless that link JR provided is bogus. I don't know how to verify its authenticity though. Does anyone?

    JR has provided a link where George Washington High School heralds Betty Ong as their most Distinguished Alumnus.

    Well, they don’t say that explicitly. The main page of that site, specifically for the celebration of the school’s 75th anniversary, has Betty up top. She is in a higher position than the actor Danny Glover, or Maya Angelou, or the singer Johnny Mathis, whose photos appear lower down on the page. That is here:

    http://www.gwhs75thanniversary.com/

    Unless that link JR provided is bogus.

    Dude, the above site is something I just found in a search. It is a website related to the celebration of the 75th anniversary of that school. 1936-2011. It never crossed my mind that it was anything other than what it represents itself as, because it is beyond my comprehension that anybody would create such an elaborate hoax just for the pure heck of it!

    Do you seriously think there is much possibility that that site is fraudulent?

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    Dude, the above site is something I just found in a search. It is a website related to the celebration of the 75th anniversary of that school. 1936-2011. It never crossed my mind that it was anything other than what it represents itself as, because it is beyond my comprehension that anybody would create such an elaborate hoax just for the pure heck of it!

    Do you seriously think there is much possibility that that site is fraudulent?
     
    Dude, chill. I'm not saying you made the website up. No, I don't seriously think the site is fraudulent.

    You're making a leap yourself by claiming those responsible for the 75th anniversary site heralded Betty as a prominent alumnus based off of the news stories. You don't know that. Maybe they did, or maybe they didn't.
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  • Trump pulled the trigger, but instead of a “bang!” what the world heard was a demure “click”. Considering that we are talking about playing a most dangerous game of potentially nuclear Russian AngloZionist roulette, the “click” is very good news indeed. But, to use the words of Nikki Haley, the US “gun” is still “locked...
  • @peterAUS

    This means that Russia is fighting a defensive war and the West the war of aggression, which by definition makes Russia right and the West wrong.
     
    Some people don't equate the regime in Kremlin with Russia.

    For the Russians “the turf”, as you put it, is our own country and we do defend it.
     
    Nobody was attacking Russia last time (5 minutes ago) I checked.
    Last time it happened '41. At least you people are fond of regurgitating that all the time.

    That we do not know.
     
    Some of us do. We also aren't bad in history either. Like remembering USSR expansion into Europe.We simply don't like to see another.
    "Do not trust Moscow". Short and simple. Keyword "trust".

    We made our positions clear.
    Let's move on.

    Some people don’t equate the regime in Kremlin with Russia.

    This is not any “regime”; this is a government of Russia supported by more than 70% of the people. And if anybody is entitled to “remove” people in Kremlin, that would be citizens of Russia at the time and in the manner they see fit, and no one else. Whoever those “some people” are and what they think is of no consequence.

    Nobody was attacking Russia last time (5 minutes ago) I checked.

    Russia is under attack, albeit not yet with missiles. In case you missed that, economic sanctions is a form of warfare. The only reason missiles aren’t flying is that Russia can and will fight back, and you know it. And you aren’t good at fighting with an able adversary.

    Some of us do. We also aren’t bad in history either.

    You claim to be a psychic able to see the future? I sincerely doubt it. And you are pathetic in history, if you mean the real one, not the history you invented to suit your delusion of grandeur. USSR “expansion into Europe”, indeed! You conveniently forget that it followed a very bloody “expansion” of Europe into the USSR, my friend.

    We made our positions clear.

    Your position has always been abundantly clear. Pity it just doesn’t matter that much any more.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
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    @peterAUS

    The purpose of all wars, is peace.
     
    No.
    "War is the continuation of politics by other means."

    War is evil. Large-scale, state-sanctioned violence is justified only when all other means of achieving genuinely essential objectives have been exhausted or are otherwise unavailable. A nation should go to war only when it has to — and even then, ending the conflict as expeditiously as possible should be an imperative.
     
    Shallow and superficial.

    With the basics so wrong the rest is pointless.
    Feels good, though. A good starting point for online therapy.I"ll pass.

    No.
    “War is the continuation of politics by other means.”

    You and the author simplify a bit; here is some context; you can find more context if you care.

    As, then, there may be life without pain, while there cannot be pain without some kind of life, so there may be peace without war, but there cannot be war without some kind of peace, because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.

    I’ve noticed you absent from Revusky’s last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).

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    Nice.
    Agree, of course.
    Didn't want to go that path on this site. Tried a couple of times and, let's say that the level of misunderstanding was staggering.
    Getting phylosophical, or even deep into human very makeup, well, this isn't the place.

    ...because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.
     
    I'll say just one thing.
    I had my own war. Apparently, it was really a very bad one, by everybody's account.
    I just know one thing: I never felt so alive then and there. Nothing compares. Nothing......
    All elements of life itself were on the level I've never felt after that. The scent of air, intensity of sounds, taste of food and drinks, sleep, rest, comradeship, well...everything was 100 %. Nothing in civilian life compares. Nothing. Well, one thing only, actually.Won't say what.
    Crazy a?
    Or....hehe.....poor civilians, "chattering class" in particular.

    If we want to get analytical now, the same applies to groups. A couple of mates, together, in war. A small community...larger community.....etc....etc.
    Anyway.


    I’ve noticed you absent from Revusky’s last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).
     
    Read some of the article, skimmed through some parts. Read some comments; got surprised by, say, "internal workings" of this site. Too much personal bullshit and politics if you ask me.
    As for the topic itself, well, got that video about Pentagon plane, so here I am:
    Before reading some stuff on this site (thank you guys, a couple only, of course) I thought one thing.
    Now I am inclined to think otherwise.
    Two things:
    I buy, 70/30 that the buildings, all of three of them, did collapse due to a peculiar combination of how they were built with how and with what they were hit, plus the rest. So, no demolitions.
    Second, Pentagon plane. That video, well....so, again, I believe that a plane (the plane) hit Pentagon.

    Now, did the government know that hijacking was going to happen, I am sure some parts of the intelligence community/security apparatus did. Was it intentionally not prevented, don't think so. I go with incompetence and organizational culture there.

    That the event was manipulated and used for the Deep State goals, of course.
    I am sure that as soon some of them knew what was happening they started calculating and acting.
    Having said all this, I really don't want to get into debate about that. I mean...done around zillion times already.

    One more thing.
    Mentioned my little war. So, can't get emotionally involved into 9/11. What Americans see as a terrible thing re loss of life, limb and property, guys like me see "and.....?".
    I am widely known as Russia hater here. So.. this
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
    is, in my book, worse than 9/11.
    Much worse.
    And, to add insult to the injury, only this


    2004

    In September 2004, following bombing attacks on two aircraft and the downtown Moscow Metro, Chechen terrorists seized over 1,000 hostages at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia.
     

    is on the Wikipedia site re "Terrorism in Russia". Not even a fucking link.
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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • @Heros
    Like the Yankee coward he is, Lang hightailed it out of the Unz comment section back to the safety of his own blog where he promptly bans and/or abuses anyone who he disagrees with. This is typical Yankee behavior, cowardly running away and then crowing about victory once they are certain their opponents can no longer reach them.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/commenter-delusions.html#disqus_thread

    Lang lightly addresses a few comments in this post from the safety of his own blog, but he ignores the stinky pile of elephant dung following him where ever he goes: War Crimes.

    Every year they seem to drag up another poor conscripted German labor camp guard, who as a teenager in 1945 is still somehow guilty of war crimes now. These guys weren't even officers.

    Lang was in intelligence during Vietnam, when operation Pheonix was in force, which was the equivalent to the Nazi Einsatzgruppen. As the years have passed and the lies have slowly been pealed back about things like Tonkin and the secret bombings, it becomes clear to all non-Yankees that these were egregious war crimes and crimes against humanity. If we consider the complete aftermath of Pol Pot and the fall of Vietnam, the US army has more deaths and crimes to atone for than the German army did, without even considering what has gone on in the middle east since the US recognized Israel, a "country" with no official borders.

    The problem is that there are millions of Yankee war criminals in the US collecting pensions, getting paid for appearances on talk shows, and basking in all that gratitude for their service. Even worse, they form little clubs, like SST, where they pat each other on the back and exchange tidbits of war criminal manna. I am referring to "intelligence".

    This entire Comey/McCabe/Muller/Clinton kubuki theatre that we are forced to endure revolves around "classified" information. Information that only these insiders are allowed to know about, which is clearly sold and leaked at will by those at the top of the food chain. This is the military war criminal manna. They can use and profit from this secret knowledge for decades after they have left "service".

    In Lang's case, he can post juicy tidbits on his blog that he shares with other insider Yankee war criminals and know that the public will come to learn these great secrets, despite the abuse he heaps on anyone who questions anything they are told because of his deep insider knowledge.

    So now that we finally know what a sham all this "top secret" information is, I would propose that it be used a the criteria for determining war crimes when the US finally faces judgment on the misery she has created for humanity. Low level security clearance means a couple of very hungry years in a re-education camp. High level security clearance means testicle crushing to extract forced confessions.

    Whew! Thanks for the link. I’d like to claim the title of “more zany commenter” for coining the phrase ‘corpses in his closet’ … but that honor goes to bjondo. ["In addition to corpses in his closet, wonder how much looted Russian loot in his off-shore account(s)?"]

    Trouble is, bjondo and I were referring to Jeffrey Sachs. Pat Lang must believe every comment under his article is about him. Sad. One can only hope he reads his “top secret” “classified” information more carefully.

    Meanwhile, he chose not to respond to my genuine concern. Why is he entitled (if he did) to castigate Larry Wilkerson…[pot calling kettle].? Why should Lang be forgiven, Wilkerson not? And BTW, Lang seems to have no remorse, so why forgive him at all?

    As for the rest of his “Commenter Delusions” you’re quite right, Heros. Seems the man won’t tolerate to hear any other view than precisely his own.

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  • @Kafka
    Great article. This piece by a guest author on the Saker blog makes a good addition to this piece. It puts the issue in a moral context:

    http://thesaker.is/ask-yourselves-are-we-the-bad-guys/

    It is an excellent article, but please, don’t sully it with The Saker.

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  • Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:
    @Heros
    Like the Yankee coward he is, Lang hightailed it out of the Unz comment section back to the safety of his own blog where he promptly bans and/or abuses anyone who he disagrees with. This is typical Yankee behavior, cowardly running away and then crowing about victory once they are certain their opponents can no longer reach them.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/commenter-delusions.html#disqus_thread

    Lang lightly addresses a few comments in this post from the safety of his own blog, but he ignores the stinky pile of elephant dung following him where ever he goes: War Crimes.

    Every year they seem to drag up another poor conscripted German labor camp guard, who as a teenager in 1945 is still somehow guilty of war crimes now. These guys weren't even officers.

    Lang was in intelligence during Vietnam, when operation Pheonix was in force, which was the equivalent to the Nazi Einsatzgruppen. As the years have passed and the lies have slowly been pealed back about things like Tonkin and the secret bombings, it becomes clear to all non-Yankees that these were egregious war crimes and crimes against humanity. If we consider the complete aftermath of Pol Pot and the fall of Vietnam, the US army has more deaths and crimes to atone for than the German army did, without even considering what has gone on in the middle east since the US recognized Israel, a "country" with no official borders.

    The problem is that there are millions of Yankee war criminals in the US collecting pensions, getting paid for appearances on talk shows, and basking in all that gratitude for their service. Even worse, they form little clubs, like SST, where they pat each other on the back and exchange tidbits of war criminal manna. I am referring to "intelligence".

    This entire Comey/McCabe/Muller/Clinton kubuki theatre that we are forced to endure revolves around "classified" information. Information that only these insiders are allowed to know about, which is clearly sold and leaked at will by those at the top of the food chain. This is the military war criminal manna. They can use and profit from this secret knowledge for decades after they have left "service".

    In Lang's case, he can post juicy tidbits on his blog that he shares with other insider Yankee war criminals and know that the public will come to learn these great secrets, despite the abuse he heaps on anyone who questions anything they are told because of his deep insider knowledge.

    So now that we finally know what a sham all this "top secret" information is, I would propose that it be used a the criteria for determining war crimes when the US finally faces judgment on the misery she has created for humanity. Low level security clearance means a couple of very hungry years in a re-education camp. High level security clearance means testicle crushing to extract forced confessions.

    Lang hightailed it out of the Unz comment section back to the safety of his own blog where he promptly bans and/or abuses anyone who he disagrees with.

    Not before making an ass of himself in this comment section.

    His loss. That’s why unz.com is growing and the colonel’s blog is a tiny circle-jerk, like a thousand other circle-jerks on the WWW. The supply-demand ratio is not in his favour. Ah, well…

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  • @utu

    However, he really ought to pay off on this wager to me first.
     
    No he should not. You must get a hard copies of yearbooks. The digital copy can be altered by people like you. It is possible you did tin order to swindle Ron Unz. I am not saying you did it but it is possible. He clearly stated (presuming that what you cite indeed came from his email) that you should spend $500 or so and get the hard copy. You did not because you are a lazy bum. You kept talking about Betty Ong for years and did nothing to verify it until you got somewhat motivated by the prospect of the $10k. Still not motivated enough to do something really substantial. You are a lazy bum who never really cared for what you professed. Your talk is cheap like almost everybody on internet on both sides of the 9/11 debate.

    No he should not. You must get a hard copies of yearbooks

    Utu, did Ron Unz appoint you as his advocate? If Ron Unz wants to argue that the only way to settle the question is with a hard copy, let him show up and make the argument. But there is no point in arguing with you!

    The digital copy can be altered by people like you.

    No, it can’t. The digital copy is up there on the classmates.com site. I have no way of altering it. (Maybe somebody else has the means to alter that, but NOT ME!)

    You’re just talking shit and obviously doing so out of personal hostility towards me. Be hostile towards me, fine, but find some legitimate arguments if you can. Don’t just start picking up random shit and flinging it at me like a monkey. (Though, okay, I suppose you can’t help it, it’s in your nature…)

    It is possible you did tin order to swindle Ron Unz.

    Well, it’s not possible because I cannot alter the version on the classmates.com website. Anybody can sign up for an account there and peruse the yearbooks. The graphics in the article are just screenshots I took when doing so. Anybody can do that. When I sent Unz the email outlining what I had found out, I gave him the URL’s to do so but pointed out that you need to sign in with a (free) account to do that. That’s all. But it’s easy to do so. Actually, here is the URL for the page with “Black Betty” on it.

    http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yearbooks/4182821566?page=157&searchTerm=betty&yearbookViewerEnabled=true&swipeEnabled=true

    But if you don’t have an account, it redirects you to a login page and you need to sign up for an account. You do that and log in and try that URL and you’ll see. But you would know that if you weren’t such a pathetic bullshitter, because you would have gone through those steps.

    And the whole idea that I have some project of swindling Unz is preposterous! What is this? The classic swindle where you induce somebody to wager $10,000 that somebody is in a yearbook??!!

    Sure, that’s a classic confidence trick, up there with selling people swamp land in Florida!

    He clearly stated (presuming that what you cite indeed came from his email) that you should spend $500 or so and get the hard copy.

    That is basically nonsense. Ron was just thinking out loud about how I could get my hands on a yearbook, that’s all. There was no requirement that I spend $500 to get one! Like, suppose I was in Frisco and happened on the yearbook in a box of old junk at a garage sale and somebody sold it to me for $1. Are you saying that this would be no good because there was a requirement for me to spend $500 on the yearbook?

    This is just all such nonsense. And even if it were not such nonsense, it would be a waste of time to argue with you or anybody else here who is NOT Ron Unz! Unz did not appoint you as his advocate! If he wants to show up and argue that he did not lose the wager because of blah blah blah, then let him show up and argue the case. And if he declines to do that, then he has OBVIOUSLY conceded the wager. The wager was about whether this person, the Betty Ong who made the phone call on 9/11, the Chinese flight attendant, is in the yearbook. She clearly is NOT!

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    That is basically nonsense. Ron was just thinking out loud about how I could get my hands on a yearbook, that’s all. There was no requirement that I spend $500 to get one!
     
    Are you for real? Do you really believe there was a formal bet and now it is you who can interpret what ever was written in emails between you and RU to your advantage? I still thought a bit (not much but a tiny bit) more about you thinking that perhaps you are interested in finding some facts about Betty Ong but it looks like you just want the money because RU happened to inadvertently utter the amount of $10k and actually you believe that you deserve it. What a chutzpah!

    Ron Unz definitively should not pay you anything, though as I wrote earlier it would be nice if he hired a PI to investigate existence of Betty Ong. And definitively he should not engage in personal communication with you. Nobody should.
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  • Inspectors from the Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) have finally arrived in Douma, Syria, to assess whether a gas attack took place earlier this month. It has taken a week for the inspectors to begin their work, as charges were thrown back and forth about who was causing the delay.Proponents of the...
  • Jimmy Dore shows what happened there:

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  • Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    the lazy bum Revusky
     
    Utu, you pathetic dumbass... by your logic, if you took your car to a mechanic specifically for an oil change, and he did just that, changed the oil, he would be a "lazy bum" because he did not take the opportunity to rebuild your car's engine!

    The wager with Unz was specifically about whether Betty Ong was in the appropriate high school yearbook. To say that I'm lazy because I resolved that question and didn't go further makes no sense really.

    Now, granted, as the scriptures say, out of the mouths of dumbasses can come words of wisdom, so you do make a valid point about hiring a private investigator. Assuming one really did want to resolve the Betty Ong question thoroughly, I guess that is what one would do -- as opposed to insisting that I, somebody who is not any sort of professional investigator, do it.

    So, yes, I would be perfectly happy if Ron hired a PI to do just that. However, he really ought to pay off on this wager to me first.

    The wager with Unz was specifically about whether Betty Ong was in the appropriate high school yearbook. To say that I’m lazy because I resolved that question and didn’t go further makes no sense really.

    You didn’t resolve the question. Do you see why not?

    I guess that is what one would do — as opposed to insisting that I, somebody who is not any sort of professional investigator, do it.

    You wrote a 4100 word article about something. It seems you are interested in, again, something. But what? If you wanted to cover your “wager” (is it a wager– heads I win, tails we forget the whole thing?) you could do it in one sentence: “I looked at an online copy of the GWHS San Fran. yearbook and there is no Betty Ong though there is a Betty Ng whom I believe to be someone else”. What was purpose of other 4069 words? To convince someone of something?

    But okay, you’re not going to do it. That’s okay. But why get so het up about it? This I don’t understand. Just “Thanks but I’m not interested in pursuing the matter further” would do.

    Then you could get on to more important things, possibly including your next article which would further the goal of the other 4000-word part of this article.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Anon
    LOL this guy wants us to treat the OHCHR seriously. I bet he thinks the Canadian CHRC is also a legitimate body we should all defer to.

    "we can talk turkey." OK let's. Your irrelevant and (frankly insulting to our intelligence) commentary spoken as some UN plutocrat treating the US and Haiti as equal with equal standards is about as dumb as the gentleman above who wants us to think "half the US population has hispanic roots" or that we never "USA diversity never made room for the native americans".

    Your slimy globalism is showing, Pooftareader, no matter how many times you try to use expressions like "Arab headchoppers" to try, in your wormy manner, to fit in with how you think dissident nationalists talk.

    So. The fact that the USA fails to meet the standards applied to Haiti and every other country means… What, that the USA deserves special eeeasy American self-esteeeem standards? “Here’s your gold sticker, Jimmy, everybody’s a winner in the the Special Yooman Rights Olympics!!” Face it, your police state stuffed your helpless masses down a shithole.

    Globalism…? Get it straight, globalism is different than the old-school Eastern seaboard internationalism you just encountered, which upsets you so.

    What exactly is your hardon for the OHCHR? They put your government on the spot in a way that your media doesn’t dare do, that your legislature doesn’t dare do, that your civil society doesn’t dare do. They’ve got more balls than your entire subject population. You obviously need their help, since you can’t escape your patriotic icecreamhole.

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  • @Anon
    Did you know that there are entire towns and HOAs that aren’t even on google maps? They are mostly very wealthy neighborhoods that don’t want burglars and kidnappers using google maps to target the residents for burglary and kidnapping.

    Over the years I have noticed that every time someone posts that he or she was there that day and saw the crash and the towers come down you claim the event never happened and that you have figured out it was all a gigantic fraud using the internet and google maps.

    Use google maps to check out lower manhattan the east river and Brooklyn. Manhattan and the WTC can easily be seen from much of Brooklyn.

    Thousands of people in New Jersey looked across the Hudson and saw the whole thing that day.

    If you check google maps you will see that thousands could see the whole thing

    You don’t seem to realize that maps and google maps are horizontal and flat.

    But in reality buildings are vertical. The WTC was the tallest building in New York.

    All people had to do was just look up instead of straight ahead and they could see the WTC. Didn’t they teach you that in the Air Force? I believe it’s called elevation

    Ever been to Chicago? The Sears Tower was once the tallest building in the world. It can be seen from all over downtown just by looking up at the sky and there it is.

    If I look straight ahead or down I can’t see the high rises in the Century City business district a few miles away.

    But all I have to do is look up to the sky and there they are.

    I can’t see the mountains about 15 miles to the north when I am looking straight ahead or down.

    But all I have to do is lift my head and look up and there they are.

    You were in the Air Force? Jeez how low can the standards go.

    You don’t seem to realize that maps and google maps are horizontal [sic] and flat.

    It’s amazing the BS you can read on the Internet peddled by morons posing as experts.

    Doofus anon[257] doesn’t know diddley about maps or Google either one, including the fact that there is a 3D layer in Google Earth, and also street view in Google Maps.

    Google Earth now uses an auto 3D scanning technology to produce 3D representations of buildings and other large features, trying even for trees with raggy results, but when the 3D layer was first introduced in 2009, all the buildings were modeled by hand primarily using the SketchUp 3D modeling application. I know because I did this kid of work at the time, and several of my building models were on Google Earth until the auto-scanning technology was introduced in 2012, and all the hand-built models were retired to the 3D warehouse.

    The new 3D technology has the advantage that everything is modeled, where with the old system, if an artist didn’t model the building and upload it to the 3D warehouse, and get it approved by Google Earth, it didn’t appear on the 3D layer. All the 3D stuff had to be done by hand, where now it can be done automatically with 3D scanning, although not every area has it yet.

    In short, you’re completely wrong. Again.

    You were in the Air Force? Jeez how low can the standards go.

    You just talk trash, and shoot yourself in the foot when you try to denigrate my service. In fact, the USAF has high enlistment requirements, and I was in an elite Air Force command. Crème de la crème was the way they put it, and we had nothing but top-notch people of the highest caliber, which is why it gets so dreary talking with a ignoramus like you.

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  • @Polish Perspective

    Poland, for example, receives around twice as much free money or aid from the EU, than the entire world UN annual budget. I guess Poland might be the most aid receiving country in the world? (I wonder if anyone has done calculations of this topic?)

     

    https://i.imgur.com/yNvMzzD.jpg

    Poland isn't even in the top 5 once you adjust for GNI. It's true that Poland gets most in absolute terms, but that's also because we are way bigger than most EE countries. I find a lot of economic innumerate to fail to understand this point and just repeat "yes but they get THIS MANY BILLIONS". But without adjusting for economic size is meaningless. Sad to see that you are not smarter than this, Dmitry.

    Also, this is counted from the year 2000. The latest EU funds flow constitute about 1% of our GNI according to our central bank. The next one will be half that, even if no change is done, simply on account of a growing economy and a closer realignment to the EU median.

    Furthermore, whenever we are talking about EU funds this should be kept in mind:

    https://i.imgur.com/YNiPO03.png

    People only look at public fund flows, because it gives Western Europeans a moral edge ("see, it's only thanks to us because of us generous we are!"). In reality, you should count both public and private flows. Once you do that, EE countries are being drained of capital on a net basis.

    You can see this in sector after sector. Take retail. A German goes to shop in Aldi, Lidl or Kaufmann. All domestic firms. Poles and Czechs shop at the same stores, with Carrefour thrown into the mix. As you can see from the chart, the most drained country of us all is Czechia. No wonder euroskepticism is high there.

    And I haven't even talked about the fact that Western European countries benefit massively from labour and we lose, in some instances permanently.


    People only look at public fund flows, because it gives Western Europeans a moral edge (“see, it’s only thanks to us because of us generous we are!”). In reality, you should count both public and private flows. Once you do that, EE countries are being drained of capital on a net basis.

    You are correct, but the chart doesn’t show that. It’s quite misleading.

    In only compares the net inflow of EU transfers to the net outflow of capital income.

    Other inflows include:

    • FDI (FDI into Poland for 2016 was around 3% of GDP it appears–more than EU transfers)
    • Exports
    • Foreign portfolio investment (i.e. investment into a business short of direct control, as well as bond purchases)
    • Bank lending
    • Repatriated foreign earnings and debt repayments

    Other outflows include:

    • Outbound FDI
    • Imports
    • Outbound foreign portfolio investment
    • Outbound bank lending
    • Foreign aid

    In theory the capital (FDI, portfolio investment, lending) and current accounts (trade, debt service, repatriated earnings) must always balance, though in reality this isn’t always true (see the Eurodollar market for instance).

    Depending on what EU funds are actually used for they could represent a very good deal in that EU funds do not represent FDI, portfolio investment, or lending and thus involve no obligation to service foreign debt or send capital income to foreign investors. Knowing the EU I doubt the funds are used for anything useful but you would know better.

    In general outside of East Asia fast-growing and/or converging economies run current account deficits in order to grow faster. Norway for instance ran a current account deficit of 13% of GDP while it was getting its North Sea oil industry off the ground.

    If you want to avoid that you have to suppress consumption and increase domestic saving, hence the famously high household savings rate in China (and Japan until recently). Or you accept slower growth. Inbound FDI also makes it easier to acquire foreign technology and know-how.

    A good way to split the difference is through joint ventures and forced technology transfers.

    You can see this in sector after sector. Take retail. A German goes to shop in Aldi, Lidl or Kaufmann. All domestic firms. Poles and Czechs shop at the same stores, with Carrefour thrown into the mix. As you can see from the chart, the most drained country of us all is Czechia. No wonder euroskepticism is high there.

    Sure, but ALDI, Lidl, Kaufmann, and Carrefour doubtless have higher productivity and better merchandising skills than anything that existed in the Visegrad 4 or could’ve come to the fore in the post-communist period.

    As a result Visegrad people exchange lost profits for lower prices, better quality, and improved product selection.

    Of course you can argue that efficient retailers would’ve developed anyway, but this surely would’ve taken more time.

    The real question is whether the Visegrad 4 can create successful multinational corporations or if they will forever be comprador economies controlled by the German 1%. There are worse fates than that incidentally. Australia and Canada have been a comprador economies from day one for instance.

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  • Walmart is said close to $12 billion-plus deal for Flipkart

    Why should you care? Because if this deal goes through, a major Indian giant in the making will be snuffed out. We need more competition among the tech giants away from the US-controlled dogma.

    I had earlier speculated about the far more Westernised Indian elites and how that plays badly into a divergence path – as compared to Chinese elites who are far more rooted in their own country. If you look at India’s digital landscape, virtually nothing is different from a typical Western country in terms of what tech they use.

    The irony here is that Snapdeal(an also-ran) and Flipkart were both loudly talking about imposing capital rules which would have meant that foreign investors can invest but they can’t get controlling interest. Something similar was mulled in China after Naspers got a big stake in several Chinese companies, but those companies remained in Chinese hands even with a lot of foreign capital. This may now not happen in India.

    The NDA – the ruling Indian coalition with the BJP as its head – exposed the lie of them being any different than the Congress – the previous rulers, who are dynastic in Indian politics – when it refused these proposed rules.

    I actually read the BJP 2014 manifesto all those years ago and was excited when they mentioned a break with Western dogma. Sadly it was all fluff. They have maintained a neoliberal line and they don’t seem to understand the importance of your own domestic tech sector. India is one of the very few countries which can pull it off. I’ve argued before that in order to get Big Tech you need a Big Market first.

    So India is throwing this away, if the deal is completed. This on the heels of Indian elites embracing SJW trends like feminism with gusto in a way that doesn’t appear to be happening in China to even nearly the same extent. Of course, Polish elites are of low quality, but our excuse is that given our precarious position and our far smaller economy, it was inevitable that we were going to end up in someone’s orbit. India is big enough to chart its own course far more independently but the tragedy is that it seems completely unwilling or even incapable of doing that.

    So only China will truly challenge the US dominance in all fields. India seems intent on playing the supplicant. Russia is the only other major country which stands up to the US and for that it needs our thanks, especially in foreign policy. If even the Indian “nationalists” won’t do this, there’s no hope for the opposition. Then again, the Congress has actually run a more independent foreign policy than the BJP, interestingly enough. Especially when it comes to regime change etc.

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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan
    Neocons would be neocons with or without Israel. The tribal aspect is undisputable, there are overlapping interests, but the goals are different. For neocons, as for Soros progressives who are also far from being all Zionists, it's global domination, for Zionists, it's Greater Israel, which does btw encompass more land than just the mythical Eretz Israel.
    Obviously, the neocons' God complex has a lot to do with being "the chosen people" and obviously their rise to prominence wouldn't have been possible without help from fellow "chosen people" so it's not such a bad idea to root for Israel, but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn't help at all achieve the Zionists' goals. The latter don't put all their eggs in one basket, and they do in fact have a lot of activity in the back of their American protector but if the USA goes down, the neocons / Soros liberals are gone too.
    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel - though they'd have to find other ways to pominence than Zionist money -, they're both phenomenons of the same tribe but one can be contained and can be made to accomodate itself with that containment, the others represent a real threat to Planet Earth. The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.

    It’s a package deal. If they take out Russia, global domination is virtually assured and Israel will get the World’s crown sooner or later. At the heart of it there’s a messianic lunacy and that’s why we’re facing WW3 at, say, 90% probability.

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    I saw this in the brochure:

    Refuge for the Jews..
    Guard the flank of the Suez for the British..
    Western capitalist power against the Arab Soviet back Socialists for the cold warriors..
    Democracy in the Middle East for Americans..
    Jesus is coming soon for the Evangelicals ..
    Access to oil for the Investment bankers ..

    Something in it for everyone, yay.
    , @Vojkan
    If they take out Russia, Russia will take out Israel so Israel will be a dead king. The Zionists should better reign in the neocons if they want there to be an Israel.
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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Anon
    That 37 minutes estimate is only valid from 1 to 5 am.

    And you don’t know her address in Chinatown. It involves a lot more than just the Geary bus

    That 37 minutes estimate is only valid from 1 to 5 am.

    Wow, you just lie pretty smoothly and automatically, eh? Well, you’re not a very good liar though. Maybe you should take some time to think about your lies first. I said specifically that the route was using public transportation. The last #1 bus runs at 1:15 a.m. and resumes at 4:40 a.m. So your 1 to 5 a.m. window is almost exactly when that route does NOT work, because the buses aren’t running then. See:

    https://www.sfmta.com/routes/1-california

    In fact, the the 37 minute estimate from Google Maps on the bus ride was for about 8 a.m. I also note from this page I link above that the frequency of the buses at that time is every 6 minutes. So the commute looks quite feasible. Granted, I don’t know whether the bus schedule was the same back in Betty’s day, but I don’t see much reason to think it was very different.

    But you see, again, you guys just assume that I’m a bullshitter like you. But I’m not. If I check something like this, I check it.

    And you don’t know her address in Chinatown.

    Well, no, I don’t know her exact address in Chinatown. I don’t think you do either. Well, frankly, I have serious doubts whether there is an exact address, since I have great doubts about the whole story of these people!

    I doubt the exact starting address makes that much difference because the Chinatown area is pretty compact really. I took the Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory as a starting point because it’s a major tourist landmark in that area. If the bus ride is 37 minutes, the commute is completely feasible. That it takes a few minutes more or less to walk to the bus stop and back would not matter very much.

    But none of this matters anyway. I am saying the above as somebody who doesn’t even believe that any of these people really attended that school. But that would not be because it is infeasible to commute from the Chinatown area to that school! It obviously is feasible.

    Well, assuming one exists, it’s feasible. If you don’t exist, then that is kind of a first order problem…

    Well, on third thought, if Betty didn’t exist, then the commute is probably even more feasible because then she could probably get away with not paying the bus fare!

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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    I think it far from absurd to make the distinction between neocons and Zionists, since neocons will certainly not disappear even if Israel disappeared.
     
    Nice try. Neocons, like most liberal Jews, were originally leftists who crossed over the political divide because they realized, especially after witnessing The Left's resistance to the Vietnam War, progressivism would lead to a non-interventionist US foreign policy, spelling disaster for the Jewish state. In other words, Israel is the neocons raison d'être... without it, they would rejoin most of their brethren who reside on the left of the political spectrum. If you require proof of this, just look at how the neocons easily switched over to the Democrats and HC during the 2016 presidential campaign, when Trump promised to end the regime-change wars. That's because the only thing conservative about the neoconservatives is their support for a more hawkish foreign policy, for the benefit of the Jewish state.

    Very good post.

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  • During the bombing of Baghdad in January 1991 I went with other journalists on a government-organised trip to what they claimed was the remains of a baby milk plant at Abu Ghraib which the US had just destroyed, saying that it was really a biological warfare facility. Walking around the wreckage, I found a smashed-up...
  • Trump pulled the trigger, but instead of a “bang!” what the world heard was a demure “click”. Considering that we are talking about playing a most dangerous game of potentially nuclear Russian AngloZionist roulette, the “click” is very good news indeed. But, to use the words of Nikki Haley, the US “gun” is still “locked...
  • @annamaria
    The US-style “democracy on the march” in Poland, the obedient vassal of the ZUSA: https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/04/breaking-polish-political-prisoner-mateusz-piskorski-to-be-charged-with-espionage-for-russia/
    “The Polish National Prosecutor’s Office has issued an indictment against the famous scholar, anti-NATO activist, and leader of the political party Zmiana, Dr. Mateusz Piskorski.
    The full case and details of the indictment remain classified… The National Council of ZMIANA calls for the immediate declassification of the indictment against the Chairman of ZMIANA, Dr. Mateusz Pisorski: “ We believe that this whole affair is unprecedented in the recent history of Poland and is evidence of a lack of freedom of speech and freedom of political beliefs in the Republic evermore often referred to as “NATO’s Eastern Flank” as if the only meaning of our Fatherland’s existence is protecting the interests of the United States." …
    Dr. Mateusz Piskorski has repeatedly warned against the dangers of a Third World War breaking out over NATO expansion in Eastern Europe and Poland’s degradation into a potential battlefield. …
    Piskorski has been dubbed contemporary Poland’s first political prisoner, and his indictment for alleged espionage behind closed doors could usher in a new era of political repression in NATO-occupied European countries…”
    -- There is no available information on the weasel Edward Zalewski, a current National Public Prosecutor, who produced the indictment

    Thanks for the information. I was wondering what happened to Dr. Pisorski after he was arrested more than a years ago, I think, on ridiculous charges of spying for Russia, and I believe China (!) was also mentioned. As ridiculous as it gets.

    Frankly, the development of the Polish political system towards a totalitarian repressive regime doesn’t surprise me in the least. A rabidly nationalistic stance with extreme hostility towards any deviation from the official viewpoint in the interpretation of the historic or political events was to lead to repressions – this was inevitable.

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    Frankly, the development of the Polish political system towards a totalitarian repressive regime doesn’t surprise me in the least.
     
    The Poles are no more "totalitarian" and "repressive" than the Russians. They have an open society with free elections. They are nationalists fully aware of their history with Moscow. Painting the Poles as crypto-fascists is insulting and condescending. Floating that kind of bile only aggravates the relationship between the two countries/cultures.

    I'm not saying that the Poles' interpretation of current Russian foreign policy is accurate. But it's up to the Poles and Russians to collectively work that out over time.

    The MASSIVE impediment to a productive and peaceful rapprochement between Poland and Russia is the Global Cop Gorilla in Washington that loves to stir the pot of conflict for its own ego's sake.

    P.S. I'm thinking the catalyst for improved relations between Poland and Russia would be visible exchanges between the Polish Catholic Primate and the Russian Orthodox Patriarch. Being brothers in Christ in what is largely a Post-Christian Europe should transcend political boundaries.

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • @reiner Tor

    foreigners run the show
     
    I used it in the context of cell phone providers, where at least two decades ago there could have been some need for economies of scale. I’m not wholly sure.

    In general I think my comment wasn’t clear enough, I mostly agreed with you. E.g. the “morality tale” referred to the supposed western “subsidies” which we lazy Easterners supposedly receive.

    Anyway, now there are some points you made which I actually disagree with.

    we stop receiving public funds(literal pay-off money) and they stop getting free labour+monopolistic access to our domestic market.
     
    It’s impossible. Our educated elites (and even the not so educated unwashed masses) actively want the ability to choose to go to work in Western Europe. Short of Eastern Bloc style border fences and criminalization of emigration, how can you prevent the West (actually, the western elites) from taking advantage of your labor force?

    And short of capital controls and full scale nationalization, how can you prevent the profit repatriations?

    So the EU funds will be cut, unless the V4 can somehow show some force, but it’s unclear how. Cutting those funds is actually popular in Germany, I’m sure.

    Our educated elites (and even the not so educated unwashed masses) actively want the ability to choose to go to work in Western Europe.

    You can’t stop braindrain. On that we agree. But you certainly can stop the great masses. We certainly didn’t see the kind of flood we saw post-2004 before and that is entirely by design.

    And short of capital controls and full scale nationalization, how can you prevent the profit repatriations?

    Capital controls may not be a hugely bad thing. China still maintain them. It’s important here to distinguish between FPI (foreign portfolio investments) and FDI. It’s the latter which you want, and even then I’d say that only some types of FDI is actually beneficial, and only if it is directed towards genuine productive and technological capacity. As for full scale nationalisation, it isn’t feasible today nor would it even be preferable even if it was.

    I don’t think the state should be running retail stores. I do think that we have enough domestic firms to do a good job today. Given that we can’t wrest control out of foreign ownership hands, we can at least tax them appropriately given their massively monopolistic position. However this has been blocked by Brussels at every turn. In an environment where modest EU funds get cut even more, I don’t see why we should restrain ourselves despite massive Brussels screeching on this.

    So the EU funds will be cut, unless the V4 can somehow show some force, but it’s unclear how. Cutting those funds is actually popular in Germany, I’m sure.

    On an annual basis, Germany contributes around 0.1% of GNI. It’s a rounding-error. I don’t think the general public actually cares much, and I also don’t think the general public which cares even understands how little Germany pays.

    That said, none of this changes my stated position: the best outcome would not only be cutting EU funds but completely eliminating them – in exchange for ending Schengen and ending monopolistic market dominance. The latter two will never be accepted by the West because those are the two areas where they are draining the Eastern part of Europe. This is also why we never hear about them in the debate, because it doesn’t the fit the narrative of “we’re subsiding the poor EEs”.

    The best outcome is rarely the most realistic outcome, but I honestly think less EU funds will be good for us in the long term. At any rate, the current EU funds is about 1% of GNI according to our central bank and it has halved for each funding cycle. This is what successful convergence is supposed to mean. So us losing EU funds will not be a huge blow at any rate and it will free up political capital to go after areas which causes a lot of butthurt in Brussels in the economic sphere. It will also make us even more immune to blackmail on 3rd world quotas.

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  • @RadicalCenter
    The Glendale-Burbank-LA Area, quite often.

    The Census Bureau has it that there are 63,000 Armenian-born people in the 4 counties around LA. Not bad for a circumscribed area, but not a horde either.

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  • how smart are Armenians?

    Armenia blows but all the Armenians in the diaspora are geniuses. And you can’t just say that all the smart Armenians left because Armenia does well in all the chess olympiads and kicked the shit out of the much bigger Azjerkoffistan or whatever it’s called in their war.

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • If there’s a girl who looks the same, graduated at the same time, cannot be identified as a different person, has the same English first name and has the same Chinese surname then she surely is the same whatever small and understandable typo may have been made in a student produced yearbook.

    Until Revusky discounts this perfectly sensible set of inferences he cannot be said to have won the bet. A one letter transliteration mistake is hum drum. All of the conspiracy freaks keep ignoring this…I assume because they have no answer to it.

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    Revusky would need to have put up his own money for there to be an actual wager. The bet never really existed at all except in his narrative. Bad Betty.
    , @anonymous
    looks the same, graduated at the same time, cannot be identified as a different person

    My thoughts exactly. She look very similar to me, although I will freely admit that my judgment in this regard may be off. Maybe it wasn't even a typo. Maybe it was entered in the yearbook that way for some very trivial, as of yet unknown reason. Maybe the different spelling is actually a conspiracy in itself. I don't know what the answer is, and I don't know that anyone has ever even looked into it.

    I just find it amazing that other commenters here are suggesting that the idea that her name may have been spelled slightly differently in some old yearbook (for whatever reason) is ludicrous, crazy, outlandish nonsense that is completely outside the realm of possibility, while the simpler and more likely conclusion is that she never really existed, and is in reality part of a huge, highly elaborate, multilayered conspiracy involving dozens, possibly hundreds of people. All of the people in on the conspiracy are perfectly fine with being complicit in the murder of thousands of innocent Americans for unexplained reasons. Not a single one of these people ever comes forward. Ever.
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  • @utu

    One Bonesman Bush pres to set up Saddam and another to topple him. Could have been a long term plan.
     
    I am pretty sure that if Bush Sr. went all the way the planners would be happy. For some reason he did not go and so he paid the price for it by not getting the second term. The planners or the TPTB were not too happy with Bush Sr., who riding on the highest approval ratings (90%) after the war decided to confront and challenge Yitzhak Shamir but then lost his nerve and instead of turning to American people backed off. Bush Sr. seemed to be very reluctant to go to war and it was only after his meeting with Margaret Thatcher in Aspen, Colorado that the decision to go to war was announced.

    For some reason he did not go and so he paid the price for it by not getting the second term.

    George Herbert Walker Bush, Bush Sr., was at the center of The Deep State for a very long time. As such, The Deep State then wasn’t as Psychotically Insane as it is now. Psychopathic, for sure, but not yet Psychopathically Insane.

    Listen to Cheney in ’94 about the reasons for not going all the way to Baghdad. It’s the one time I have ever agreed with Cheney. This one time. He was right. And then 10 years later he went off his Meds and went against his own sound advice and threw America head-first into The Middle East Quagmire.

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • @Anatoly Karlin

    Legacy of its cuisine reputation in the USSR?
     
    Correct, though only true for the sovok generation.

    Georgian restaurants in the USSR played the role of French restaurants in the US, as the elite place to go to place for status signalling purposes. Only French cuisine really is world class, whereas Georgian cuisine isn't (same for the wines). Now that there are mid-range Georgian establishments, the older Soviet people like to frequent them, since they continue to regard them as prestigious, even though there are no end of much cheaper (and better) restaurants and eateries.

    For the Moscow yuppies I think it's more about Georgia's (admittedly not entirely fictive) success at larping as a "European" country. This allows them to status signal how European and progressive they are.

    Georgian restaurants in the USSR played the role of French restaurants in the US, as the elite place to go to place for status signalling purposes.

    They did? I can’t recall a single one in my home town, where live 600,000 people and (at one time) the world headquarters of several major corporations.

    Only French cuisine really is world class, w

    “World class”? What does that even mean? Are you referring to quality, snob appeal, or something else?

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  • @Polish Perspective
    Eurostat is out with numbers on book reading. Curious trivia.

    https://jodi.graphics/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/People-reading-books.png

    France looks curiously low. And share is not the same as time spent. Here's that:

    https://jodi.graphics/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Time-spent-reading-books.png

    So France continues to underperform. Very strange. Finally a map:

    https://jodi.graphics/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Share-of-people-reading-books-2016-Eurostat-Jo-Di-graphics_.png

    Unfortunately the mapmaker is retarded. It isn't the "share of people" but "time spent" that is being highlighted. I was positively surprised by Greece and to some extent even Turkey. Outside of France I'd say the biggest negative outlier is Austria.

    https://jodi.graphics/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Expenditure-on-books.png

    Though if you look at expenditure on newspapers, books etc, both the French and the Austrians do decently well. Maybe they just buy more expensive books which are more intellectual but read less? Or maybe their newspapers are high-brow enough that less of book-reading is needed.

    I'd be interested in the quality of books rather than just time spent on books. Someone reading Harry Potter, 50 shades of grey and a ton of chick-lit isn't on the same level as someone reading a few major intellectual tomes per year. But I guess that would be too "elitist", or maybe hard to measure.

    France is no longer a European country.

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  • Heres the North Tower, watch the corner of the building exploding outward, a good 5 stories below the collapsing top.
    You can also see the ejections occurring much lower from random windows, easily 10 stories below the top.
    How does a floor explode, before the top even reaches it?

    Controlled Demolition is the only way these building could have been brought down. No way fires could take out all of the supporting columns at the EXACT same time to bring Building 7 down into its own footprint. Watch carefully, you can see the windows shattering as the charges go off, right before it falls the charges go off in a perfectly straight line, that is how the columns are taken out in a demolition, fires do not do this.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • The purpose of all wars, is peace.

    No.
    “War is the continuation of politics by other means.”

    War is evil. Large-scale, state-sanctioned violence is justified only when all other means of achieving genuinely essential objectives have been exhausted or are otherwise unavailable. A nation should go to war only when it has to — and even then, ending the conflict as expeditiously as possible should be an imperative.

    Shallow and superficial.

    With the basics so wrong the rest is pointless.
    Feels good, though. A good starting point for online therapy.I”ll pass.

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    No.
    “War is the continuation of politics by other means.”
     
    You and the author simplify a bit; here is some context; you can find more context if you care.

    As, then, there may be life without pain, while there cannot be pain without some kind of life, so there may be peace without war, but there cannot be war without some kind of peace, because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.
     
    I've noticed you absent from Revusky's last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).
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  • With slight disappointment the public regarded the field. Just a minute ago, two knights were converging in fearsome joust, their spears pointing forth, plumage blowing, horses galloping, ladies out waving their handkerchiefs to their champions, - and now we see they have passed each other, both firmly in the saddle, plumage unruffled, spears unbloodied, horses...
  • @Thirdeye
    Hey fool,

    If you don't understand velocity, ascent angle (approximate), and time by now you never will. It doesn't matter how you try to puff yourself up by pontificating about elementary trigonometry.

    Still no answer from you about the hit rate on cruise missiles by 1960s-70s systems during the Kosovo war.

    Toodles

    Don’t bother debating with FB. He is a Mr. Know All, regards himself as the final depository of all knowledge and wisdom, loutishly rude for no reason, and given to hurling insults and abuse.

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • @Polish Perspective

    I understand we needed foreigners to run the show
     
    There's a significant difference between taking in selective FDI in key industries and outright letting "foreigners run the show". East Asia and especially China did the former. Are you sure you are a nationalist?

    but please don’t turn this into a morality play of how they are supposed to “subsidize” us.
     
    My argument is much simpler. The West gains more from the East once you consider all three factors: public funds, private funds and labour movement. In the debate, we only hear about the first. We never hear about the last two.

    Therefore, the solution I prefer is clean and simple: we stop receiving public funds(literal pay-off money) and they stop getting free labour+monopolistic access to our domestic market. Don't forget that 75% of our EU funds are re-invested in Western European companies.

    The thing is, the West knows this. Günther Öttinger, who is in charge of cohesion funds has all but admitted this. There's a quote I'm too lazy to google where he says in half-jest that if anything the EU should pay EE countries more. But instead of that, my preferred option would achieve a far cleaner break. However, the West would also never agree to it, precisely because they know the real scorecard, which is why their threats of cutting EU funds during the asylum crisis was always a hoax.

    It's interesting, but perhaps not surprising, that Eastern Europeans like yourself have completely and whoolly swallowed the "you should be grateful" meme, while warning about "morality tales" when you aren't advocating for your own colonisation of "letting foreigners running the show".

    foreigners run the show

    I used it in the context of cell phone providers, where at least two decades ago there could have been some need for economies of scale. I’m not wholly sure.

    In general I think my comment wasn’t clear enough, I mostly agreed with you. E.g. the “morality tale” referred to the supposed western “subsidies” which we lazy Easterners supposedly receive.

    Anyway, now there are some points you made which I actually disagree with.

    we stop receiving public funds(literal pay-off money) and they stop getting free labour+monopolistic access to our domestic market.

    It’s impossible. Our educated elites (and even the not so educated unwashed masses) actively want the ability to choose to go to work in Western Europe. Short of Eastern Bloc style border fences and criminalization of emigration, how can you prevent the West (actually, the western elites) from taking advantage of your labor force?

    And short of capital controls and full scale nationalization, how can you prevent the profit repatriations?

    So the EU funds will be cut, unless the V4 can somehow show some force, but it’s unclear how. Cutting those funds is actually popular in Germany, I’m sure.

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    Our educated elites (and even the not so educated unwashed masses) actively want the ability to choose to go to work in Western Europe.
     
    You can't stop braindrain. On that we agree. But you certainly can stop the great masses. We certainly didn't see the kind of flood we saw post-2004 before and that is entirely by design.

    And short of capital controls and full scale nationalization, how can you prevent the profit repatriations?
     
    Capital controls may not be a hugely bad thing. China still maintain them. It's important here to distinguish between FPI (foreign portfolio investments) and FDI. It's the latter which you want, and even then I'd say that only some types of FDI is actually beneficial, and only if it is directed towards genuine productive and technological capacity. As for full scale nationalisation, it isn't feasible today nor would it even be preferable even if it was.

    I don't think the state should be running retail stores. I do think that we have enough domestic firms to do a good job today. Given that we can't wrest control out of foreign ownership hands, we can at least tax them appropriately given their massively monopolistic position. However this has been blocked by Brussels at every turn. In an environment where modest EU funds get cut even more, I don't see why we should restrain ourselves despite massive Brussels screeching on this.

    So the EU funds will be cut, unless the V4 can somehow show some force, but it’s unclear how. Cutting those funds is actually popular in Germany, I’m sure.
     
    On an annual basis, Germany contributes around 0.1% of GNI. It's a rounding-error. I don't think the general public actually cares much, and I also don't think the general public which cares even understands how little Germany pays.

    That said, none of this changes my stated position: the best outcome would not only be cutting EU funds but completely eliminating them - in exchange for ending Schengen and ending monopolistic market dominance. The latter two will never be accepted by the West because those are the two areas where they are draining the Eastern part of Europe. This is also why we never hear about them in the debate, because it doesn't the fit the narrative of "we're subsiding the poor EEs".

    The best outcome is rarely the most realistic outcome, but I honestly think less EU funds will be good for us in the long term. At any rate, the current EU funds is about 1% of GNI according to our central bank and it has halved for each funding cycle. This is what successful convergence is supposed to mean. So us losing EU funds will not be a huge blow at any rate and it will free up political capital to go after areas which causes a lot of butthurt in Brussels in the economic sphere. It will also make us even more immune to blackmail on 3rd world quotas.
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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Jonathan Revusky

    the lazy bum Revusky
     
    Utu, you pathetic dumbass... by your logic, if you took your car to a mechanic specifically for an oil change, and he did just that, changed the oil, he would be a "lazy bum" because he did not take the opportunity to rebuild your car's engine!

    The wager with Unz was specifically about whether Betty Ong was in the appropriate high school yearbook. To say that I'm lazy because I resolved that question and didn't go further makes no sense really.

    Now, granted, as the scriptures say, out of the mouths of dumbasses can come words of wisdom, so you do make a valid point about hiring a private investigator. Assuming one really did want to resolve the Betty Ong question thoroughly, I guess that is what one would do -- as opposed to insisting that I, somebody who is not any sort of professional investigator, do it.

    So, yes, I would be perfectly happy if Ron hired a PI to do just that. However, he really ought to pay off on this wager to me first.

    However, he really ought to pay off on this wager to me first.

    No he should not. You must get a hard copies of yearbooks. The digital copy can be altered by people like you. It is possible you did tin order to swindle Ron Unz. I am not saying you did it but it is possible. He clearly stated (presuming that what you cite indeed came from his email) that you should spend $500 or so and get the hard copy. You did not because you are a lazy bum. You kept talking about Betty Ong for years and did nothing to verify it until you got somewhat motivated by the prospect of the $10k. Still not motivated enough to do something really substantial. You are a lazy bum who never really cared for what you professed. Your talk is cheap like almost everybody on internet on both sides of the 9/11 debate.

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    No he should not. You must get a hard copies of yearbooks
     
    Utu, did Ron Unz appoint you as his advocate? If Ron Unz wants to argue that the only way to settle the question is with a hard copy, let him show up and make the argument. But there is no point in arguing with you!

    The digital copy can be altered by people like you.
     
    No, it can't. The digital copy is up there on the classmates.com site. I have no way of altering it. (Maybe somebody else has the means to alter that, but NOT ME!)

    You're just talking shit and obviously doing so out of personal hostility towards me. Be hostile towards me, fine, but find some legitimate arguments if you can. Don't just start picking up random shit and flinging it at me like a monkey. (Though, okay, I suppose you can't help it, it's in your nature...)


    It is possible you did tin order to swindle Ron Unz.
     
    Well, it's not possible because I cannot alter the version on the classmates.com website. Anybody can sign up for an account there and peruse the yearbooks. The graphics in the article are just screenshots I took when doing so. Anybody can do that. When I sent Unz the email outlining what I had found out, I gave him the URL's to do so but pointed out that you need to sign in with a (free) account to do that. That's all. But it's easy to do so. Actually, here is the URL for the page with "Black Betty" on it.

    http://www.classmates.com/siteui/yearbooks/4182821566?page=157&searchTerm=betty&yearbookViewerEnabled=true&swipeEnabled=true

    But if you don't have an account, it redirects you to a login page and you need to sign up for an account. You do that and log in and try that URL and you'll see. But you would know that if you weren't such a pathetic bullshitter, because you would have gone through those steps.

    And the whole idea that I have some project of swindling Unz is preposterous! What is this? The classic swindle where you induce somebody to wager $10,000 that somebody is in a yearbook??!!

    Sure, that's a classic confidence trick, up there with selling people swamp land in Florida!


    He clearly stated (presuming that what you cite indeed came from his email) that you should spend $500 or so and get the hard copy.
     
    That is basically nonsense. Ron was just thinking out loud about how I could get my hands on a yearbook, that's all. There was no requirement that I spend $500 to get one! Like, suppose I was in Frisco and happened on the yearbook in a box of old junk at a garage sale and somebody sold it to me for $1. Are you saying that this would be no good because there was a requirement for me to spend $500 on the yearbook?

    This is just all such nonsense. And even if it were not such nonsense, it would be a waste of time to argue with you or anybody else here who is NOT Ron Unz! Unz did not appoint you as his advocate! If he wants to show up and argue that he did not lose the wager because of blah blah blah, then let him show up and argue the case. And if he declines to do that, then he has OBVIOUSLY conceded the wager. The wager was about whether this person, the Betty Ong who made the phone call on 9/11, the Chinese flight attendant, is in the yearbook. She clearly is NOT!

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  • @Dmitry
    The census will only track a fraction of emigrants/workers. You can see above that officials are not using it when estimating for this question.

    You mean they’ll find them once you’ve told them where to look.

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  • @Anon
    Couple days ago I posted that I’m going to San Francisco for the summer and I might go to Washington and try to get the yearbook.

    But now I doubt she went to Washington. 76 high schools in San Francisco Maybe Sparkon can use google maps to find the yearbook.

    You doubt JR AND you doubt George Washington High School? I don’t understand your stance or argument if you have one.

    JR has provided a link where George Washington High School heralds Betty Ong as their most Distinguished Alumnus. Are they lying? If they are, why would they lie about something like this? Are they mistaken? If they’re mistaken, how the hell could they be about something like this? I would think they’d verify it before heralding it, don’t you?

    Unless that link JR provided is bogus. I don’t know how to verify its authenticity though. Does anyone?

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    JR has provided a link where George Washington High School heralds Betty Ong as their most Distinguished Alumnus.
     
    Well, they don't say that explicitly. The main page of that site, specifically for the celebration of the school's 75th anniversary, has Betty up top. She is in a higher position than the actor Danny Glover, or Maya Angelou, or the singer Johnny Mathis, whose photos appear lower down on the page. That is here:

    http://www.gwhs75thanniversary.com/

    Unless that link JR provided is bogus.
     
    Dude, the above site is something I just found in a search. It is a website related to the celebration of the 75th anniversary of that school. 1936-2011. It never crossed my mind that it was anything other than what it represents itself as, because it is beyond my comprehension that anybody would create such an elaborate hoax just for the pure heck of it!

    Do you seriously think there is much possibility that that site is fraudulent?
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  • @Polish Perspective

    FDI was 176 Billion in 2016. Polish GDP was 469 Billion.
     
    China gets around 100-120 billion USD per year in FDI. Who knew that Poland gets 50% more than China with less than 1/20th the population?

    Please, learn basic math first before opining. Your basic common sense should have kicked in long ago when you even typed that comment.

    My mistake. The figure I cited was probably FDI stock. FDI net inflows are much lower, of course. Actual figure is 16 billion.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/BX.KLT.DINV.CD.WD?locations=PL

    Your basic common sense should have kicked in long ago when you even typed that comment.

    I stay corrected.

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  • Trump pulled the trigger, but instead of a “bang!” what the world heard was a demure “click”. Considering that we are talking about playing a most dangerous game of potentially nuclear Russian AngloZionist roulette, the “click” is very good news indeed. But, to use the words of Nikki Haley, the US “gun” is still “locked...
  • @EugeneGur

    Putin/Russia are fighting the “Anglo Zionist” empire because the same empire simply wishes to dispose of the regime in Kremlin and take over the country
     
    This means that Russia is fighting a defensive war and the West the war of aggression, which by definition makes Russia right and the West wrong.

    Two mobsters in a turf war.
     
    For the Russians "the turf", as you put it, is our own country and we do defend it. It's the oldest trick in the book - to equate the aggressor and the defender because they both use military means. In reality, there is only one mafia here, and it isn't Russia.

    should the empire goes down tomorrow, “Team Putin” will want to replace U.S. deep state in a second.
     
    That we do not know. The only thing we do know is what is going on right before our eyes: the US and the entire West behaving like a gangster disregarding any and every rule of civilized behavior and endangering everyone, and Russia acting as the only adult in the room. The rest is a transparent attempt to justify the West's behavior: the West isn't to blame, for"both sides are equally bad".

    This means that Russia is fighting a defensive war and the West the war of aggression, which by definition makes Russia right and the West wrong.

    Some people don’t equate the regime in Kremlin with Russia.

    For the Russians “the turf”, as you put it, is our own country and we do defend it.

    Nobody was attacking Russia last time (5 minutes ago) I checked.
    Last time it happened ’41. At least you people are fond of regurgitating that all the time.

    That we do not know.

    Some of us do. We also aren’t bad in history either. Like remembering USSR expansion into Europe.We simply don’t like to see another.
    “Do not trust Moscow”. Short and simple. Keyword “trust”.

    We made our positions clear.
    Let’s move on.

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    Some people don’t equate the regime in Kremlin with Russia.
     
    This is not any "regime"; this is a government of Russia supported by more than 70% of the people. And if anybody is entitled to "remove" people in Kremlin, that would be citizens of Russia at the time and in the manner they see fit, and no one else. Whoever those "some people" are and what they think is of no consequence.

    Nobody was attacking Russia last time (5 minutes ago) I checked.
     
    Russia is under attack, albeit not yet with missiles. In case you missed that, economic sanctions is a form of warfare. The only reason missiles aren't flying is that Russia can and will fight back, and you know it. And you aren't good at fighting with an able adversary.

    Some of us do. We also aren’t bad in history either.
     
    You claim to be a psychic able to see the future? I sincerely doubt it. And you are pathetic in history, if you mean the real one, not the history you invented to suit your delusion of grandeur. USSR "expansion into Europe", indeed! You conveniently forget that it followed a very bloody "expansion" of Europe into the USSR, my friend.

    We made our positions clear.
     
    Your position has always been abundantly clear. Pity it just doesn't matter that much any more.
    , @annamaria
    The "regime" -- and a theocratic one -- is in your beloved apartheid Jewish State. ("Israel does not have a written constitution," "the Israeli government gives special preference to Judaism," "Although Israel does not grant special privileges to any special Jewish group, many European Jews belong to higher social classes than Arabs and “Oriental” Jews").
    And who are these "we" in your mysterious "We made our positions clear" - the US ziocons?
    The ziocons had attacked Russian interests in Ukraine (which borders with Russia) and arranged the NATO military bae there. The coup d'etat was to the detriments of the majority of Ukrainian people, including Ukrainian Jews that have been enjoying the triumph of banderism in Kiev and beyond since then. Nothing pleasures the Kagans' clan more than a profitable cooperation with the followers of Bandera. "Lionized as a nationalist hero in Ukraine, Stepan Bandera was a Nazi sympathizer who left behind a horrific legacy," https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/09/stepan-bandera-nationalist-euromaidan-right-sector/
    The ziocons have been arming and providing with the logistics the "moderate" terrorists in the Middle East, where Russia has been defending her interests by the legitimate means, on the legitimate invitation from the legitimate Syrian government -- unlike the ziocon coalition of the US/NATO + Israel + the oh-so-democratic Saudis + the CIA-trained head-choppers and liver eaters.
    Russia is just another unfortunate country where the militant Jews wanted to get the upper hand for the expense of the natives. What your tribe has been commemorating for centuries during Purim? -- A mass slaughter of the native population provoked by the obnoxious Jewish guests. And this is what gives joy to your tribe: "Happy is the one who seizes your [Persian, Russian, German...] infants and dashes them against the rocks." Psalm 137:9
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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Anon
    in the post-Cold War era when the relative strength of U.S. forces reached its zenith, our well-endowed, well-trained, well-equipped, and highly disciplined troops have proven unable to accomplish any of the core tasks to which they’ve been assigned. This has been especially true since 9/11.

    But this is false. US has militarily succeeded around the world in invasions and winning wars.
    But the military cannot build new systems. Its purpose is to destroy. Military can invade, military can bomb, military can kill. But it was not designed to heal and build. Sure, there are military engineers that are into logistics and etc. but military isn't meant to build anything permanent.

    So, US military fulfills its missions all over the world. It drops bombs, invades, kills people, and etc.
    It is very successful at all that. Now, if the US were to return after the battles or wars, no problem.
    But the US plan is to STAY,and that's where the problem comes in. The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It's not the military that is deciding to stay forever.

    Consider a doctor. A doctor can cut flesh and do stuff inside the body, BUT he cannot heal the patient. He can only set things right(like broken bones) or remove organs. Once he stitches the patient and removes his invasive presence from the organs of the patient, the healing must happen internally by the body itself. A doctor can only set bones together. For the bones to heal, an organic process must take place independent of the doctor. A doctor an remove an object from the body. But the healing has to be happen by natural processes of the body. So, a doctor can cut open a patient and invasively do stuff inside the body. But once his job is finished, he must stitch up the flesh and let the body heal itself.

    US military is the same way. It can invade and take out 'bad guys', but then, it must move out and allow the nation to heal and reorder itself by its own accord. But the US keeps the wound open. The surgery never ends. So, the body cannot heal by its own accord.

    Worse, US targets the wrong 'patients' for sickness. US relies on the Zionist quack to decide which nations are sick and need to be operated on. Obviously, the quack Zionist never says anything is wrong with Israel. Oh no. The sick puppies are Iran, Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc. or any nation hated by Jews.
    But, as the saying goes, "don't fix what isn't broken". It was US foreign policy and war-making that made those nations even worse. Also, the US intervention can make things much worse by removing the regulator. Assad's regime was the regulator that kept the balance of power and order in Syria. But US interferes and undermines the regulator and all hell breaks loose. It's like cutting upon a body and messing with the functioning of the heart or liver. The whole system begins to fall apart. US strategists and big thinkers are quacks or third-rate medical scientists. What they often identify as the disease turns out to be the crucial organ holding the nation together. Gaddafi's regime looked gross and sick(and it was), but despite its grotesqueness, it was the key organ/regulator that held the nation together. Imagine a doctor cutting open someone and taking out intestines as being 'full of shit'. So, will the patient be better since the shit-filled organ has been removed from the body? Of course not. As ugly as intestines are, they are crucial. And Gaddafi's regime was crucial in a desert nation of so many clans. And Assad is the necessary organ of Syria. Of course, the evil Zionist doctor knows this. But it calls for removal of or harm done to the organ because it wants to see a permanently crippled and sick Syria.

    Another thing. Bacevitch is wrong to focus on the military. I can understand why because he's a military historian.

    But the real power is not with the military. After all, if the US were all about military power and ambitions, then war with ANY nation will do for US aggression and foreign ventures. US could make a case that Israel is a rogue state that occupies West Bank, stole Golan Heights, kills Gazans, and spies on the US.
    Or US can cook up any excuse to go to war with Venezuela, Bolivia, black Africa, and etc. There are plenty of cruddy nations.
    But notice that the US military only barks and bites at nations hated by Jews.

    So, Jews have the power over the military because military is under civilian authority that has been bought up by or manned with Jewish power.

    There was some human rights fuss about something in Burma... Why isn't the US military moving over there?
    Mexico has tons of drug lords who commit murder and sell drugs to the US. Why isn't US waging on Mexico?

    All the US wars and aggressions are against nations hated by Jews.

    So, while the Military Industrial Complex may enjoy saber-rattling and wars, it has no agency and autonomy. Its enemies must be chosen by The Power. It's like dogs like to hunt, but the master gets to choose what animal shall be hunted: rabbits, foxes, pigs, deer, etc.

    Excellent points, Anon !

    To this one:

    Assad’s regime was the regulator that kept the balance of power and order in Syria. But US interferes and undermines the regulator and all hell breaks loose.

    I would add the following: this is true if you assume that the de-stabilization was inadvertent. It seems much more likely that we’re only at the beginning of the greater Israel project, which will be built on the mountain of corpses we’re right now engaged in creating for them.

    We will destroy all their neighbors, while the US and Europe are being flooded by waves of migrants to keep everyone’s attention close to home. We will keep provoking Russia and later China to keep the world attention focused on the risk of its own demise.

    And then, Israel will make its moves, massacring and ethnically cleansing the Palestinians, securing from its neighbors all the resources of oil, gas, and water in order to amass all the necessary accouterments of a major regional power.

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    Now, Chinatown is about 5 miles from Washington High. And whether by car or bus it’s a ghastly trip. By car it takes a good hour during week day traffic.
     
    Well, I just checked Google Maps out of curiosity and I had it generate a route, using public transportation, from the Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory, just off Jackson Street, in the heart of Chinatown, to George Washington High School, which it estimates to take 46 minutes.

    In general, I find Google Maps to give a safe estimate so it probably takes a few minutes less than that in practice. For one thing, Google Maps typically assumes a pretty decrepit walking pace. I am sure the 9 minutes walking component of the route would be covered by healthy teenagers in a few minutes less than that. The 37 minute bus ride part, of course, probably is (and was) a 37 minute bus ride....

    It’s horrible, especially when it rains. Picture 50 people trying to crowd unto the Geary st bus. Then the horrible crowded awful bus that goes about 5 miles an hour till it gets west of Van Ness.
     
    Holy Cow! That reminds me of the trains that transported people to Auschwitz! Holy shit! Did they have gas chambers there too? Poor Betty!

    Well, if Betty had claustrophobia, I guess she could ride a bicycle. Google Maps gives that as a 43 minute bike ride. And again, it's probably a bit less than 43 minutes for a healthy teenager.

    But hold on a second, what is all this about anyway? The wager with Ron Unz that lies at the origin of this article was based on fact-checking a story that appeared in the media, and that story said Betty went to this high school. George Washington High. Are you saying she didn't go there because it is not feasible to commute for 40-odd minutes? WTF?

    Not only that, this Betty Ong, famous for the phone call on 9/11 (and absolutely nothing else) has now passed into the lore of George Washington High School as their most distinguished alumnus. For example, I noticed that they had a 75th anniversary celebration in 2011 and that had its own website. Here:

    http://www.gwhs75thanniversary.com/

    Look at the face at the very top of the page! And note that some other famous people went to this school apparently but they take second billing to Betty! The black poet Maya Angelou (who recited her work at at least one presidential inauguration) apparently was there in the 40's. Her picture is there but way below Betty Ong's. The singer Johnny Mathis went to George Washington High. (He's not black, like Maya Angelou, but is pretty seriously gay apparently....) These people come AFTER Betty!

    So the most distinguished alumnus of George Washington High according to the institution itself is deemed to be Betty Ong!

    Ain't that something?

    Someone found a Gloria Ong graduated 1972 from Galileo the Chinatown high school. That’s the right name and age of the sister.
     
    Someone found that, huh? Did that person provide a link?

    Anyway, if the Ong family all went to Galileo, why is that school not raising a stink about it? They're not claiming Betty Ong (famous for the phone call) or Gloria Ong (famous for being the sister of the Betty of the phone call) went there. Why don't the various students and teachers who presumably knew Betty and her siblings at Galileo High raise some stink about this mistake?

    Anyway, I am not the one who claims that Betty Ong went to this school. (I kinda doubt it frankly.) I'm just checking a fact that appeared in a lot of different places in the MSM. And Ron's wager, of course, was based on the idea that Ronnie can't conceive of such a widely reported "fact" not being so! So he never thought his $10,000 was at any real risk! (Think again, Ronnie...)

    Anyway, I am not the one who claims that Betty Ong went to this school. (I kinda doubt it frankly.) I’m just checking a fact that appeared in a lot of different places in the MSM. And Ron’s wager, of course, was based on the idea that Ronnie can’t conceive of such a widely reported “fact” not being so! So he never thought his $10,000 was at any real risk! (Think again, Ronnie…)

    But bizarrely George Washington High School, per your 75th Anniversary Link, contends she did attend their school even though she’s not listed in the Yearbook. Perhaps George Washington High School can provide copies of her Original Transcripts since she isn’t shown in the Yearbook.

    What is it with the Chinese and these Terrorist Spectacle Events? Dun Meng’s claim he was carjacked by the alleged Boston Bombers is also a bizarre story. And then we have the steel from the World Trade Center site being quickly disposed of to a Chinese Company, Baosteel. At least they were smart enough not to sell it to an Israeli Company. That would have been a bit too audacious, I suppose.

    Mangled WTC Steel Bought By China

    On a lighter note, nobody names their daughters Betty anymore. Or Barbara. Thank goodness.

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    But bizarrely George Washington High School, per your 75th Anniversary Link, contends she did attend their school even though she’s not listed in the Yearbook.
     
    Well, actually, to be precise, the 75th anniversary event would be organized by the alumni association, I suppose, not the school administration specifically. That is why it's a separate website.

    But, look, the origin of the wager was that it was competely inconceivable to Ron Unz that the story would not check out. To the extent that he told me I was wasting my time to even bother.

    So, if Ron Unz reasons this way, it stands to reason that the people who set up that website likely reason the same way. It was so widely reported that Betty Ong graduated from George Washington High School in 1974 that they never checked!

    The fundamental problem here is that the Ronnie Unz reasoning in question is flawed. The repetition of a story does not make it true! That was what, in final analysis, the wager was about.

    So you can't just start going on saying that these people are repeating the story, therefore the story must be true, because that is precisely the proposition that is under dispute! Can't you see that?


    Perhaps George Washington High School can provide copies of her Original Transcripts since she isn’t shown in the Yearbook.
     
    Well, I didn't have a wager with Ron Unz about any transcripts, just about the yearbook.

    Maybe you can make a wager with him on this. (I'm personally tired of the whole thing so I leave it to you.)

    However, if Unz makes a separate wager with you on the transcripts, I would like him to pay me off on this wager on the yearbook first.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @Washington Wobert
    Detailed contemporary accounts by mid-level military seem to have been scrubbed off the web. Here's a start:

    https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/04/09/baghdads-neutron-bomb-and-americas-nuclear-obama/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/15/vt-nuclear-education-nukes-in-iraq-confirmation/

    Looking at it, Comment 52 is not clear about the sequence. The Battle of Baghdad was during the second US war of aggression against Iraq.

    Thank you, Wobert.

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  • @Spisarevski

    the EU it is the opposite – it is the new members which drain the money, and the old members who provide it.
     
    Actually it's the old members who drain the human and natural resources of the new members.
    The "money" the old members provide is not that much - in Bulgaria for example, when the membership fees are subtracted, the net funds received are about 500-600 million EUR per year, which is not a big deal, even for our small economy .
    Meanwhile, just the education of all the specialists who go to work in Western Europe costs billions of dollars more than the funds we received, and that education was paid with our taxes. There are all sorts of other hidden losses and lost profits as well - being forced to close perfectly safe nuclear reactors, to sell state monopolies and important industries to western entities under disadvantageous contracts that can't be broken because of "free trade" or something, and many others.
    Old member Germany is building a second Nord Stream while South Stream was denied to Bulgaria.

    Anyway I think Anatoly said somewhere recently that one of the main reasons the USSR fell apart is because it was uncool. While I agree, I can only hope that this will be true for the EU as well, I can't really imagine something more uncool than the EU.

    And this is why I can't understand for the life of me why are there sill sizeable factions in some countries that want to become part of the Western empire of niggerfaggotry, enormous and unaccountable bureaucracy (with commissars and everything) and hypocritical totalitarianism (the thought police varies from country to country but if this monstrosity doesn't fall apart, then we will all live in 1984 sooner or later).
    There is no freedom or prosperity waiting for you once you join these faggots - in fact, just the opposite.

    “the old members who drain the human and natural resources of the new members”

    Most British working people experience the drain on themselves, through lower wages, increased crime and worse public services. British employers, on the other hand, love the fact that they consider $10 an hour a great wage.

    The vast majority of the 3.5 million foreign workers in the UK are doing low-paid jobs, and paying little tax (for the others, see my next paragraph). One Polish child at a UK primary school costs about £6,000 a year, paid from taxes, while the tax paid by a minimum wage worker is about £880, so you need the tax from seven workers just for one child’s primary education.

    Male real median wages in the UK are lower now than in 1997.

    “the education of all the specialists who go to work in Western Europe costs billions of dollars more than the funds we received, and that education was paid with our taxes”

    You have a point there. My sister’s dentist surgery has dentists from Portugal, Bulgaria and Romania.

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  • @Anon
    It’s an arrogant comment. What the author wants is to reinstate the draft.

    Let those who want college tuition and free medical care enlist and get it. Let those who want to stay out of the military stays out.

    What the author wants I don’t know, but a great part of what he wrote is Empire’s propaganda or outright nonsense, as other commentators also pointed out. The rest is more or less OK. For example, all the part about the “petulant, overarmed, misbehaved Russia” and Murica’s best-in-world-history military are BS propaganda.

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • @reiner Tor
    This is exactly my thinking. I’ve always thought it made exactly zero sense to export raw materials or fossil fuels in the long run. There might be short term reasons for that, but exporters should aim to move away from that and instead add value.

    An example could be Emirates or Qatar Airways. By taking advantage of their fortunate geographic location and the low fuel prices resulting from their hydrocarbon reserves they are selling a service with much higher added value than just exporting oil.

    It rather depends on the quantity of raw materials available vs. the real and potential domestic demand.

    Dubai for instance has far fewer reserves than Abu Dhabi, which is why they went for major diversification.

    Admittedly Emirates (as well as Etihad and Qatar Airways) could get into trouble in the future as a result of the Boeing 787 and Airbus A350. But if they do they had a good run, and Dubai’s value as an entrepot remains.

    But yes, the classical mercantilist formula is to reduce the cost of raw materials and increase the amount of value added by your own industry. There were some flaws in the formula of course such as the obsessive focus on the accumulation of bullion, and while “comparative advantage” is complete nonsense there are still advantages in less managed trade.

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  • The April 14 missile attacks on Syria were a politically-motivated fireworks display that were largely designed to silence Trump's critics. The attacks-- which were coordinated with Moscow-- did not kill any Russian, Syrian, Iranian or Hezbollah combat troops. They did not kill any Syrian civilians. They did not impede the Syrian Army's ongoing military offensive...
  • @DC
    It may be that Trump knows exactly what he is doing and has tricked the neo-cons/noe-liberals in to thinking he’s tough on Syria and Russia while behind their backs colluding with Putin to avoid ww3 and working to pull out of Syria regardless.

    The strike was really just a $150million advertising opportunity for Russian missil defense systems. The idiot general that announced 100% success should be fired as spokesperson for the pentagon-deep state. His ploy might have had a chance at being credible with a 93% success rate but 100% was never going to be credible!

    As for Bolton and Pompeo, keep your enemies close so you know what they are doing, tell them what they want to hear, let them imagine they are powerful and then take them down when they least expect it.

    Anything is possible here. Ya can’t just mate the king in a castled position. Ya have to pin, skewer, fork and threat to win. Bolton could be neocon prophylactic . He could be Sheldon brand ,TM oven mitts for red hot neocon buttons. Maybe he will toss Bolton after this at some point. I mean to do neocon stuff without a Bolton would tend to stick more to Trump. That would be really Machiavellian stuff….

    It would also be really kind of funny if Russia baited this for their arms industry. What will really be telling is their sales of these systems in the next few years. It was a weapons demo.

    As for domestically?

    scenario #1
    Our missiles are crap and need to be updated?
    They are? Prove it.
    Fire some missile at Syria and see what happens.

    scenario #2
    Sheldon has some cash.
    for what?
    You have to take in Bolton and take his advice.
    Trump does so with disinterest , an lobs a few..

    scenario #3

    Trump had a spicy meal last night….

    scenario #4
    He has eyes for Bibi and his playboy life style is just a front….or he is a regular old crypto-zionist.

    I mean what is to make of lobbing a few in half hearted , neocon fashion?

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  • Mr. Bacevich, thank you for a great article that has given me much food for thought. One quibble: We should’ve used the atom bomb in Korea. Eastern cultures perceive restraint as weakness. We set a very bad precedent by not using the bomb, one which contributed to our losing Vietnam (where we shouldn’t have been).

    We failed, to varying degrees, to achieve our objectives in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan because the enemy engaged in fourth-generation warfare. In all three cases they knew that we’d leave eventually and that they emphatically weren’t leaving. They just had to wait us out.

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  • There is a non-trivial chance of a color revolution in Armenia in the next few days. I don't follow domestic Armenian politics, but the basic gist of it is that the two-term President Serzh Sargsyan - who is highly unpopular due to increases in utilities tariffs - has recently transitioned from the Presidency to the...
  • Eurostat is out with numbers on book reading. Curious trivia.

    France looks curiously low. And share is not the same as time spent. Here’s that:

    So France continues to underperform. Very strange. Finally a map:

    Unfortunately the mapmaker is retarded. It isn’t the “share of people” but “time spent” that is being highlighted. I was positively surprised by Greece and to some extent even Turkey. Outside of France I’d say the biggest negative outlier is Austria.

    Though if you look at expenditure on newspapers, books etc, both the French and the Austrians do decently well. Maybe they just buy more expensive books which are more intellectual but read less? Or maybe their newspapers are high-brow enough that less of book-reading is needed.

    I’d be interested in the quality of books rather than just time spent on books. Someone reading Harry Potter, 50 shades of grey and a ton of chick-lit isn’t on the same level as someone reading a few major intellectual tomes per year. But I guess that would be too “elitist”, or maybe hard to measure.

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    France is no longer a European country.
    , @Anatoly Karlin

    I’d be interested in the quality of books rather than just time spent on books. Someone reading Harry Potter, 50 shades of grey and a ton of chick-lit isn’t on the same level as someone reading a few major intellectual tomes per year.
     
    Might be able to compile this from an index of sales stats based on popular, widely-translated science, history, etc. books (though I imagine Eastern Europe will be a bit underweighed due to widespread piracy).
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  • In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • Rumors about the intelligence and impeccable honesty of the Brits are highly exaggerated: “The Skripal Affair: A Lie Too Far? by Michael Jabara Carley” http://www.voltairenet.org/article200813.html
    “The Russian government, in fact, proposed that the alleged poisoning of the Skripals should be examined by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) in The Hague, according to procedures to which Britain itself had agreed when the OPCW was established in 1997. …

    The British attempted hijacking of the OPCW has compromised its independence… Moreover, since the BZ toxin is made by the US, Britain and other NATO countries, it begs the same questions, which the Tories put to Moscow: How did the perpetrators obtain the BZ toxin and bring it to Salisbury? Did MI5 or MI6 authorise a false flag attack against the Skripals, or was it authorised by the British cabinet or by the prime minister alone? Or did British authorities lose control of their stockpiles? The trail of evidence does not lead to Moscow; it leads to London.

    A prima facie case can be made that the British government is lying about the Skripal affaire. … British authorities are now saying that they have other top-secret evidence, which explains everything, but unfortunately, it can’t be publicised. …

    Given all the evidence, can any person with reasonable abilities to think critically believe anything the Tories are saying about the Salisbury affair?
    “They are liars. And they know that they are liars,” the late Egyptian writer and Nobel laureate Naguib Mahfouz once wrote: “And we know that they are liars. Even so, they keep lying….” Mahfouz was not writing about the British, but all the same, he could have been. Are not his well-known lines apposite to the present government in London?”

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...