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    In 2004 I published an article in the journal, Middle East Policy that was entitled “Drinking the Koolaid.” The article reviewed the process by which the neocon element in the Bush Administration seized control of the process of policy formation and drove the United States in the direction of invasion of Iraq and the destruction...
  • @Vojkan
    Israel can exist without the USA. Nukes are a pretty good life insurance. How it would fare without US taxpayers' money is another matter. You should bear in mind though that Jews rule the banks, the media, the entertainment, the justice, and the education in the whole Western world, not only in the US.

    Nukes aren’t defensive weapons and couldn’t be used to stop an invasion. Israel could be invaded and taken down much more quickly than any of its neighbors. Only having a defender like the US has allowed Israel to survive this long.

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  • @Z-man

    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel –
     
    Isruel would not exist without the USA and the fact that they have 100 nukes, the Samson option.

    Targeted assassinations, the Jews do it, the anti Zionist movement should do it also. Oye vey do I have a list. (Grin) Surprisingly many are shabbos goys.

    Israel can exist without the USA. Nukes are a pretty good life insurance. How it would fare without US taxpayers’ money is another matter. You should bear in mind though that Jews rule the banks, the media, the entertainment, the justice, and the education in the whole Western world, not only in the US.

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    Nukes aren't defensive weapons and couldn't be used to stop an invasion. Israel could be invaded and taken down much more quickly than any of its neighbors. Only having a defender like the US has allowed Israel to survive this long.
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  • @Anonymous
    It's a package deal. If they take out Russia, global domination is virtually assured and Israel will get the World's crown sooner or later. At the heart of it there's a messianic lunacy and that's why we're facing WW3 at, say, 90% probability.

    If they take out Russia, Russia will take out Israel so Israel will be a dead king. The Zionists should better reign in the neocons if they want there to be an Israel.

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  • @geokat62

    For neocons,... it’s global domination, for Zionists, it’s Greater Israel...
     
    Global domination for neocons is not an end in itself, it is a means to an end... and that end is the enhancement of the security of the Jewish state.

    ... but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn’t help at all achieve the Zionists’ goals.
     
    Surely, you jest. The neocons like Robert Kaganovitch and his wife Victoria Nudelman, Willian Kristol, David Frum, etc, are obsessed with Russia as Russia is the sponsor of both Iran and Syria, which supply Hezbollah the means by which to keep Israel out of Lebanon.

    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel
     
    While the former is true, the latter isn’t.

    The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.
     
    On this, we both can agree.

    If the US and its suppletives take on Russia, Israel becomes fair game. So to take out Russia, neocons would have to sacrify Israel. That’s where the Khazars diverge from mainstream Zionism. What’s the use of being God’s “chosen people” if you don’t rule the world but then what’s the use of ruling the world if there is no Israel?
    Zionist support of neocon agenda may well terminate their beloved creature’s existence in the ME so they should think twice before pushing their US vassal to attack Russia.

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  • To Ptrick Lang:
    “The neocons believe so strongly that America must lead the world and mankind forward that they accept the idea that the achievement of human progress justifies any means needed to advance that goal.”
    This statement has thrown me for a loop. It raises a few questions, like:
    What are the neocons?
    Aren`t the neocons Zionists?
    What are the Zionists?
    The neocons/Zionists are for “the achievement of human progress”, now?
    What is “human progress”?
    If neocons are Zionists, how does “America must lead the world and mankind forward” play into this, shouldn`t it state Israel, instead?
    Why is “America must lead the world and mankind forward” seemingly equated with “the achievement of human progress”?
    Why wasn`t it explained that “the end justifies the means” is a fallacious concept, since, if used, “the means” BECOME “the end” (humans, after all, are creatures of habit, in other words, addicts)?
    Thank you.

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    Very good post.

    Thanks

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  • @Anonymous
    It's a package deal. If they take out Russia, global domination is virtually assured and Israel will get the World's crown sooner or later. At the heart of it there's a messianic lunacy and that's why we're facing WW3 at, say, 90% probability.

    I saw this in the brochure:

    Refuge for the Jews..
    Guard the flank of the Suez for the British..
    Western capitalist power against the Arab Soviet back Socialists for the cold warriors..
    Democracy in the Middle East for Americans..
    Jesus is coming soon for the Evangelicals ..
    Access to oil for the Investment bankers ..

    Something in it for everyone, yay.

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  • @Heros
    Like the Yankee coward he is, Lang hightailed it out of the Unz comment section back to the safety of his own blog where he promptly bans and/or abuses anyone who he disagrees with. This is typical Yankee behavior, cowardly running away and then crowing about victory once they are certain their opponents can no longer reach them.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/commenter-delusions.html#disqus_thread

    Lang lightly addresses a few comments in this post from the safety of his own blog, but he ignores the stinky pile of elephant dung following him where ever he goes: War Crimes.

    Every year they seem to drag up another poor conscripted German labor camp guard, who as a teenager in 1945 is still somehow guilty of war crimes now. These guys weren't even officers.

    Lang was in intelligence during Vietnam, when operation Pheonix was in force, which was the equivalent to the Nazi Einsatzgruppen. As the years have passed and the lies have slowly been pealed back about things like Tonkin and the secret bombings, it becomes clear to all non-Yankees that these were egregious war crimes and crimes against humanity. If we consider the complete aftermath of Pol Pot and the fall of Vietnam, the US army has more deaths and crimes to atone for than the German army did, without even considering what has gone on in the middle east since the US recognized Israel, a "country" with no official borders.

    The problem is that there are millions of Yankee war criminals in the US collecting pensions, getting paid for appearances on talk shows, and basking in all that gratitude for their service. Even worse, they form little clubs, like SST, where they pat each other on the back and exchange tidbits of war criminal manna. I am referring to "intelligence".

    This entire Comey/McCabe/Muller/Clinton kubuki theatre that we are forced to endure revolves around "classified" information. Information that only these insiders are allowed to know about, which is clearly sold and leaked at will by those at the top of the food chain. This is the military war criminal manna. They can use and profit from this secret knowledge for decades after they have left "service".

    In Lang's case, he can post juicy tidbits on his blog that he shares with other insider Yankee war criminals and know that the public will come to learn these great secrets, despite the abuse he heaps on anyone who questions anything they are told because of his deep insider knowledge.

    So now that we finally know what a sham all this "top secret" information is, I would propose that it be used a the criteria for determining war crimes when the US finally faces judgment on the misery she has created for humanity. Low level security clearance means a couple of very hungry years in a re-education camp. High level security clearance means testicle crushing to extract forced confessions.

    Whew! Thanks for the link. I’d like to claim the title of “more zany commenter” for coining the phrase ‘corpses in his closet’ … but that honor goes to bjondo. ["In addition to corpses in his closet, wonder how much looted Russian loot in his off-shore account(s)?"]

    Trouble is, bjondo and I were referring to Jeffrey Sachs. Pat Lang must believe every comment under his article is about him. Sad. One can only hope he reads his “top secret” “classified” information more carefully.

    Meanwhile, he chose not to respond to my genuine concern. Why is he entitled (if he did) to castigate Larry Wilkerson…[pot calling kettle].? Why should Lang be forgiven, Wilkerson not? And BTW, Lang seems to have no remorse, so why forgive him at all?

    As for the rest of his “Commenter Delusions” you’re quite right, Heros. Seems the man won’t tolerate to hear any other view than precisely his own.

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  • Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:
    @Heros
    Like the Yankee coward he is, Lang hightailed it out of the Unz comment section back to the safety of his own blog where he promptly bans and/or abuses anyone who he disagrees with. This is typical Yankee behavior, cowardly running away and then crowing about victory once they are certain their opponents can no longer reach them.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/commenter-delusions.html#disqus_thread

    Lang lightly addresses a few comments in this post from the safety of his own blog, but he ignores the stinky pile of elephant dung following him where ever he goes: War Crimes.

    Every year they seem to drag up another poor conscripted German labor camp guard, who as a teenager in 1945 is still somehow guilty of war crimes now. These guys weren't even officers.

    Lang was in intelligence during Vietnam, when operation Pheonix was in force, which was the equivalent to the Nazi Einsatzgruppen. As the years have passed and the lies have slowly been pealed back about things like Tonkin and the secret bombings, it becomes clear to all non-Yankees that these were egregious war crimes and crimes against humanity. If we consider the complete aftermath of Pol Pot and the fall of Vietnam, the US army has more deaths and crimes to atone for than the German army did, without even considering what has gone on in the middle east since the US recognized Israel, a "country" with no official borders.

    The problem is that there are millions of Yankee war criminals in the US collecting pensions, getting paid for appearances on talk shows, and basking in all that gratitude for their service. Even worse, they form little clubs, like SST, where they pat each other on the back and exchange tidbits of war criminal manna. I am referring to "intelligence".

    This entire Comey/McCabe/Muller/Clinton kubuki theatre that we are forced to endure revolves around "classified" information. Information that only these insiders are allowed to know about, which is clearly sold and leaked at will by those at the top of the food chain. This is the military war criminal manna. They can use and profit from this secret knowledge for decades after they have left "service".

    In Lang's case, he can post juicy tidbits on his blog that he shares with other insider Yankee war criminals and know that the public will come to learn these great secrets, despite the abuse he heaps on anyone who questions anything they are told because of his deep insider knowledge.

    So now that we finally know what a sham all this "top secret" information is, I would propose that it be used a the criteria for determining war crimes when the US finally faces judgment on the misery she has created for humanity. Low level security clearance means a couple of very hungry years in a re-education camp. High level security clearance means testicle crushing to extract forced confessions.

    Lang hightailed it out of the Unz comment section back to the safety of his own blog where he promptly bans and/or abuses anyone who he disagrees with.

    Not before making an ass of himself in this comment section.

    His loss. That’s why unz.com is growing and the colonel’s blog is a tiny circle-jerk, like a thousand other circle-jerks on the WWW. The supply-demand ratio is not in his favour. Ah, well…

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  • Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan
    Neocons would be neocons with or without Israel. The tribal aspect is undisputable, there are overlapping interests, but the goals are different. For neocons, as for Soros progressives who are also far from being all Zionists, it's global domination, for Zionists, it's Greater Israel, which does btw encompass more land than just the mythical Eretz Israel.
    Obviously, the neocons' God complex has a lot to do with being "the chosen people" and obviously their rise to prominence wouldn't have been possible without help from fellow "chosen people" so it's not such a bad idea to root for Israel, but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn't help at all achieve the Zionists' goals. The latter don't put all their eggs in one basket, and they do in fact have a lot of activity in the back of their American protector but if the USA goes down, the neocons / Soros liberals are gone too.
    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel - though they'd have to find other ways to pominence than Zionist money -, they're both phenomenons of the same tribe but one can be contained and can be made to accomodate itself with that containment, the others represent a real threat to Planet Earth. The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.

    It’s a package deal. If they take out Russia, global domination is virtually assured and Israel will get the World’s crown sooner or later. At the heart of it there’s a messianic lunacy and that’s why we’re facing WW3 at, say, 90% probability.

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    • Replies: @gwynedd1
    I saw this in the brochure:

    Refuge for the Jews..
    Guard the flank of the Suez for the British..
    Western capitalist power against the Arab Soviet back Socialists for the cold warriors..
    Democracy in the Middle East for Americans..
    Jesus is coming soon for the Evangelicals ..
    Access to oil for the Investment bankers ..

    Something in it for everyone, yay.
    , @Vojkan
    If they take out Russia, Russia will take out Israel so Israel will be a dead king. The Zionists should better reign in the neocons if they want there to be an Israel.
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  • Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    I think it far from absurd to make the distinction between neocons and Zionists, since neocons will certainly not disappear even if Israel disappeared.
     
    Nice try. Neocons, like most liberal Jews, were originally leftists who crossed over the political divide because they realized, especially after witnessing The Left's resistance to the Vietnam War, progressivism would lead to a non-interventionist US foreign policy, spelling disaster for the Jewish state. In other words, Israel is the neocons raison d'être... without it, they would rejoin most of their brethren who reside on the left of the political spectrum. If you require proof of this, just look at how the neocons easily switched over to the Democrats and HC during the 2016 presidential campaign, when Trump promised to end the regime-change wars. That's because the only thing conservative about the neoconservatives is their support for a more hawkish foreign policy, for the benefit of the Jewish state.

    Very good post.

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    Thanks
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  • Rumors about the intelligence and impeccable honesty of the Brits are highly exaggerated: “The Skripal Affair: A Lie Too Far? by Michael Jabara Carley” http://www.voltairenet.org/article200813.html
    “The Russian government, in fact, proposed that the alleged poisoning of the Skripals should be examined by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) in The Hague, according to procedures to which Britain itself had agreed when the OPCW was established in 1997. …

    The British attempted hijacking of the OPCW has compromised its independence… Moreover, since the BZ toxin is made by the US, Britain and other NATO countries, it begs the same questions, which the Tories put to Moscow: How did the perpetrators obtain the BZ toxin and bring it to Salisbury? Did MI5 or MI6 authorise a false flag attack against the Skripals, or was it authorised by the British cabinet or by the prime minister alone? Or did British authorities lose control of their stockpiles? The trail of evidence does not lead to Moscow; it leads to London.

    A prima facie case can be made that the British government is lying about the Skripal affaire. … British authorities are now saying that they have other top-secret evidence, which explains everything, but unfortunately, it can’t be publicised. …

    Given all the evidence, can any person with reasonable abilities to think critically believe anything the Tories are saying about the Salisbury affair?
    “They are liars. And they know that they are liars,” the late Egyptian writer and Nobel laureate Naguib Mahfouz once wrote: “And we know that they are liars. Even so, they keep lying….” Mahfouz was not writing about the British, but all the same, he could have been. Are not his well-known lines apposite to the present government in London?”

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  • Like the Yankee coward he is, Lang hightailed it out of the Unz comment section back to the safety of his own blog where he promptly bans and/or abuses anyone who he disagrees with. This is typical Yankee behavior, cowardly running away and then crowing about victory once they are certain their opponents can no longer reach them.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/commenter-delusions.html#disqus_thread

    Lang lightly addresses a few comments in this post from the safety of his own blog, but he ignores the stinky pile of elephant dung following him where ever he goes: War Crimes.

    Every year they seem to drag up another poor conscripted German labor camp guard, who as a teenager in 1945 is still somehow guilty of war crimes now. These guys weren’t even officers.

    Lang was in intelligence during Vietnam, when operation Pheonix was in force, which was the equivalent to the Nazi Einsatzgruppen. As the years have passed and the lies have slowly been pealed back about things like Tonkin and the secret bombings, it becomes clear to all non-Yankees that these were egregious war crimes and crimes against humanity. If we consider the complete aftermath of Pol Pot and the fall of Vietnam, the US army has more deaths and crimes to atone for than the German army did, without even considering what has gone on in the middle east since the US recognized Israel, a “country” with no official borders.

    The problem is that there are millions of Yankee war criminals in the US collecting pensions, getting paid for appearances on talk shows, and basking in all that gratitude for their service. Even worse, they form little clubs, like SST, where they pat each other on the back and exchange tidbits of war criminal manna. I am referring to “intelligence”.

    This entire Comey/McCabe/Muller/Clinton kubuki theatre that we are forced to endure revolves around “classified” information. Information that only these insiders are allowed to know about, which is clearly sold and leaked at will by those at the top of the food chain. This is the military war criminal manna. They can use and profit from this secret knowledge for decades after they have left “service”.

    In Lang’s case, he can post juicy tidbits on his blog that he shares with other insider Yankee war criminals and know that the public will come to learn these great secrets, despite the abuse he heaps on anyone who questions anything they are told because of his deep insider knowledge.

    So now that we finally know what a sham all this “top secret” information is, I would propose that it be used a the criteria for determining war crimes when the US finally faces judgment on the misery she has created for humanity. Low level security clearance means a couple of very hungry years in a re-education camp. High level security clearance means testicle crushing to extract forced confessions.

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    Lang hightailed it out of the Unz comment section back to the safety of his own blog where he promptly bans and/or abuses anyone who he disagrees with.
     
    Not before making an ass of himself in this comment section.

    His loss. That's why unz.com is growing and the colonel's blog is a tiny circle-jerk, like a thousand other circle-jerks on the WWW. The supply-demand ratio is not in his favour. Ah, well...
    , @RobinG
    Whew! Thanks for the link. I'd like to claim the title of "more zany commenter" for coining the phrase 'corpses in his closet' ... but that honor goes to bjondo. ["In addition to corpses in his closet, wonder how much looted Russian loot in his off-shore account(s)?"]

    Trouble is, bjondo and I were referring to Jeffrey Sachs. Pat Lang must believe every comment under his article is about him. Sad. One can only hope he reads his “top secret” “classified” information more carefully.

    Meanwhile, he chose not to respond to my genuine concern. Why is he entitled (if he did) to castigate Larry Wilkerson...[pot calling kettle].? Why should Lang be forgiven, Wilkerson not? And BTW, Lang seems to have no remorse, so why forgive him at all?

    As for the rest of his "Commenter Delusions" you're quite right, Heros. Seems the man won't tolerate to hear any other view than precisely his own.
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  • @annamaria
    "PERSONALIZED, INDIVIDUALIZED punishment is needed for the neocon criminals and their MSM stooges"
    -- Agree. The ill-gotten fortunes must be reappropriated from the criminals' progeny and invested into the restoration of the damaged countries.

    IN ADDITION to the punishment of the criminals themselves.

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  • In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel –

    Isruel would not exist without the USA and the fact that they have 100 nukes, the Samson option.

    Targeted assassinations, the Jews do it, the anti Zionist movement should do it also. Oye vey do I have a list. (Grin) Surprisingly many are shabbos goys.

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    • Replies: @Vojkan
    Israel can exist without the USA. Nukes are a pretty good life insurance. How it would fare without US taxpayers' money is another matter. You should bear in mind though that Jews rule the banks, the media, the entertainment, the justice, and the education in the whole Western world, not only in the US.
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  • @Vojkan
    Neocons would be neocons with or without Israel. The tribal aspect is undisputable, there are overlapping interests, but the goals are different. For neocons, as for Soros progressives who are also far from being all Zionists, it's global domination, for Zionists, it's Greater Israel, which does btw encompass more land than just the mythical Eretz Israel.
    Obviously, the neocons' God complex has a lot to do with being "the chosen people" and obviously their rise to prominence wouldn't have been possible without help from fellow "chosen people" so it's not such a bad idea to root for Israel, but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn't help at all achieve the Zionists' goals. The latter don't put all their eggs in one basket, and they do in fact have a lot of activity in the back of their American protector but if the USA goes down, the neocons / Soros liberals are gone too.
    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel - though they'd have to find other ways to pominence than Zionist money -, they're both phenomenons of the same tribe but one can be contained and can be made to accomodate itself with that containment, the others represent a real threat to Planet Earth. The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.

    For neocons,… it’s global domination, for Zionists, it’s Greater Israel…

    Global domination for neocons is not an end in itself, it is a means to an end… and that end is the enhancement of the security of the Jewish state.

    … but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn’t help at all achieve the Zionists’ goals.

    Surely, you jest. The neocons like Robert Kaganovitch and his wife Victoria Nudelman, Willian Kristol, David Frum, etc, are obsessed with Russia as Russia is the sponsor of both Iran and Syria, which supply Hezbollah the means by which to keep Israel out of Lebanon.

    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel

    While the former is true, the latter isn’t.

    The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.

    On this, we both can agree.

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    If the US and its suppletives take on Russia, Israel becomes fair game. So to take out Russia, neocons would have to sacrify Israel. That's where the Khazars diverge from mainstream Zionism. What's the use of being God's "chosen people" if you don't rule the world but then what's the use of ruling the world if there is no Israel?
    Zionist support of neocon agenda may well terminate their beloved creature's existence in the ME so they should think twice before pushing their US vassal to attack Russia.
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  • @geokat62

    I think it far from absurd to make the distinction between neocons and Zionists, since neocons will certainly not disappear even if Israel disappeared.
     
    Nice try. Neocons, like most liberal Jews, were originally leftists who crossed over the political divide because they realized, especially after witnessing The Left's resistance to the Vietnam War, progressivism would lead to a non-interventionist US foreign policy, spelling disaster for the Jewish state. In other words, Israel is the neocons raison d'être... without it, they would rejoin most of their brethren who reside on the left of the political spectrum. If you require proof of this, just look at how the neocons easily switched over to the Democrats and HC during the 2016 presidential campaign, when Trump promised to end the regime-change wars. That's because the only thing conservative about the neoconservatives is their support for a more hawkish foreign policy, for the benefit of the Jewish state.

    Neocons would be neocons with or without Israel. The tribal aspect is undisputable, there are overlapping interests, but the goals are different. For neocons, as for Soros progressives who are also far from being all Zionists, it’s global domination, for Zionists, it’s Greater Israel, which does btw encompass more land than just the mythical Eretz Israel.
    Obviously, the neocons’ God complex has a lot to do with being “the chosen people” and obviously their rise to prominence wouldn’t have been possible without help from fellow “chosen people” so it’s not such a bad idea to root for Israel, but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn’t help at all achieve the Zionists’ goals. The latter don’t put all their eggs in one basket, and they do in fact have a lot of activity in the back of their American protector but if the USA goes down, the neocons / Soros liberals are gone too.
    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel – though they’d have to find other ways to pominence than Zionist money -, they’re both phenomenons of the same tribe but one can be contained and can be made to accomodate itself with that containment, the others represent a real threat to Planet Earth. The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.

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    For neocons,... it’s global domination, for Zionists, it’s Greater Israel...
     
    Global domination for neocons is not an end in itself, it is a means to an end... and that end is the enhancement of the security of the Jewish state.

    ... but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn’t help at all achieve the Zionists’ goals.
     
    Surely, you jest. The neocons like Robert Kaganovitch and his wife Victoria Nudelman, Willian Kristol, David Frum, etc, are obsessed with Russia as Russia is the sponsor of both Iran and Syria, which supply Hezbollah the means by which to keep Israel out of Lebanon.

    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel
     
    While the former is true, the latter isn’t.

    The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.
     
    On this, we both can agree.
    , @Anonymous
    It's a package deal. If they take out Russia, global domination is virtually assured and Israel will get the World's crown sooner or later. At the heart of it there's a messianic lunacy and that's why we're facing WW3 at, say, 90% probability.
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  • @Parbes
    EXACTLY.

    PERSONALIZED, INDIVIDUALIZED punishment is needed for the neocon criminals and their MSM stooges. Nothing else will stop or dissuade them from continuing with what they have been doing. These psychopaths are the enemies of BOTH the Western peoples AND the rest of humanity.

    They have been getting off scot-free for three decades now. That scot-freeness has got to END.

    “PERSONALIZED, INDIVIDUALIZED punishment is needed for the neocon criminals and their MSM stooges”
    – Agree. The ill-gotten fortunes must be reappropriated from the criminals’ progeny and invested into the restoration of the damaged countries.

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    IN ADDITION to the punishment of the criminals themselves.
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  • @Vojkan
    What we know as neoconism today has existed before Israel came into existence. I think it far from absurd to make the distinction between neocons and Zionists, since neocons will certainly not disappear even if Israel disappeared.
    Neocons have more to do with Trotsky than with Zionism, there are overlapping interests but I think Israel just happens to be a convenient anchor point and a way to enlist wealthy Zionist Jews rather than an end in itself. Leading neocons are Jews indeed but Trotsky too was a Jew and he was no Zionist. If neocons judge that Israel has become an impediment to the fulfilment of their ambitions, it is not implausible that they become much less supportive of Israeli policies.
    I'd say that neocons are simply the latest instance of men suffering from a God complex while Zionism is somewhat less ambitious. Neocons are the real threat to the world, Israel is merely an annoyance. It is far more important to stop the neocons than to stop Israel.

    I think it far from absurd to make the distinction between neocons and Zionists, since neocons will certainly not disappear even if Israel disappeared.

    Nice try. Neocons, like most liberal Jews, were originally leftists who crossed over the political divide because they realized, especially after witnessing The Left’s resistance to the Vietnam War, progressivism would lead to a non-interventionist US foreign policy, spelling disaster for the Jewish state. In other words, Israel is the neocons raison d’être… without it, they would rejoin most of their brethren who reside on the left of the political spectrum. If you require proof of this, just look at how the neocons easily switched over to the Democrats and HC during the 2016 presidential campaign, when Trump promised to end the regime-change wars. That’s because the only thing conservative about the neoconservatives is their support for a more hawkish foreign policy, for the benefit of the Jewish state.

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    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Vojkan
    Neocons would be neocons with or without Israel. The tribal aspect is undisputable, there are overlapping interests, but the goals are different. For neocons, as for Soros progressives who are also far from being all Zionists, it's global domination, for Zionists, it's Greater Israel, which does btw encompass more land than just the mythical Eretz Israel.
    Obviously, the neocons' God complex has a lot to do with being "the chosen people" and obviously their rise to prominence wouldn't have been possible without help from fellow "chosen people" so it's not such a bad idea to root for Israel, but their obsession with subjugating Russia doesn't help at all achieve the Zionists' goals. The latter don't put all their eggs in one basket, and they do in fact have a lot of activity in the back of their American protector but if the USA goes down, the neocons / Soros liberals are gone too.
    In short, Israel would exist without neocons and neocons would exist without Israel - though they'd have to find other ways to pominence than Zionist money -, they're both phenomenons of the same tribe but one can be contained and can be made to accomodate itself with that containment, the others represent a real threat to Planet Earth. The Jewish grip on all aspects of public life, Zionism, neoconism are different processes. The first and the last need to be killed.
    , @Anonymous
    Very good post.
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  • @Patrick Lang
    I have pointed at Zionist interest many times as the root cause of destructive US policy in the ME Have you ever read anything by me? I think not. nevertheles it is not the case that Zionism and neoconism are the same thing. Neoconism has a broader agenda than mere Zionism

    What we know as neoconism today has existed before Israel came into existence. I think it far from absurd to make the distinction between neocons and Zionists, since neocons will certainly not disappear even if Israel disappeared.
    Neocons have more to do with Trotsky than with Zionism, there are overlapping interests but I think Israel just happens to be a convenient anchor point and a way to enlist wealthy Zionist Jews rather than an end in itself. Leading neocons are Jews indeed but Trotsky too was a Jew and he was no Zionist. If neocons judge that Israel has become an impediment to the fulfilment of their ambitions, it is not implausible that they become much less supportive of Israeli policies.
    I’d say that neocons are simply the latest instance of men suffering from a God complex while Zionism is somewhat less ambitious. Neocons are the real threat to the world, Israel is merely an annoyance. It is far more important to stop the neocons than to stop Israel.

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    I think it far from absurd to make the distinction between neocons and Zionists, since neocons will certainly not disappear even if Israel disappeared.
     
    Nice try. Neocons, like most liberal Jews, were originally leftists who crossed over the political divide because they realized, especially after witnessing The Left's resistance to the Vietnam War, progressivism would lead to a non-interventionist US foreign policy, spelling disaster for the Jewish state. In other words, Israel is the neocons raison d'être... without it, they would rejoin most of their brethren who reside on the left of the political spectrum. If you require proof of this, just look at how the neocons easily switched over to the Democrats and HC during the 2016 presidential campaign, when Trump promised to end the regime-change wars. That's because the only thing conservative about the neoconservatives is their support for a more hawkish foreign policy, for the benefit of the Jewish state.
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  • @anonymous
    Can our side develop a special "Doxing" team to publish the personal information of where the worst Zio Neoconservative lying war mongers live, hang out, play golf.

    I want to confront John Bolton, Karl Rove, David Frum on the 10th T of some posh golf course. I will be with a one legged "wounded warrior" from the US war for "Freedom and Democracy" in Iraq.

    Or maybe try to do an improvised chemical weapons attack some Neo Con's vacation home in the Hamptons - or just dunk the punks underwater in a chlorine treated swimming pool in Georgetown.

    We have to make this personal and personally punish the vile, evil, lying Neo Conservative, Zionist, Cuckservative war mongers that have slaughtered hundreds of thousands and set off a migrant invasion that will overwhelm Western Europe, UK the West.

    But, that's the whole point isn't it:

    Invade the world for Israel and the Saudi Sunni Islamist royals (ISIS)
    Invite the world - mass migration invasions of North Africans, Sub Sahara Black Africans, Pakistani/Afhan mountain rapists, throat cutters
    In Hoc to the Federal Reserve Banking cartel, China to pay for all this sh**

    And then the same tribe's Media Mafia gets to distract our proles with endless TV shows like "Maury"

    "Jamal - you ARE the father".

    But, some good news in Central Europe and Russia. Mother Russia is looking rather good I must say.

    EXACTLY.

    PERSONALIZED, INDIVIDUALIZED punishment is needed for the neocon criminals and their MSM stooges. Nothing else will stop or dissuade them from continuing with what they have been doing. These psychopaths are the enemies of BOTH the Western peoples AND the rest of humanity.

    They have been getting off scot-free for three decades now. That scot-freeness has got to END.

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    "PERSONALIZED, INDIVIDUALIZED punishment is needed for the neocon criminals and their MSM stooges"
    -- Agree. The ill-gotten fortunes must be reappropriated from the criminals' progeny and invested into the restoration of the damaged countries.
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  • @iffen
    I don’t know what disorder you’re afflicted with

    It's the one where I think I'm sane, normal and rational while most everyone else is looney.

    Well, shit. I thought we all suffered from that one. I’m eaten up with it myself.

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  • “War is Good for Business”: Insider Trading, Secret Information and the US-led Attack against Syria” by Michel Chossudovsky: https://www.globalresearch.ca/war-is-good-for-business-insider-trading-secret-information-and-the-us-led-attack-against-syria/5637056
    “Did a handful of powerful financial operators have secret information (handed to them by politicians in high office) which enabled them to predict the outcome and “place their financial bets” on a rise in the stock values of major defense contractors? …
    Are we talking about billions of dollars accruing to the families and/ or cronies of top US, UK, French government officials? The bonanza earnings resulting from equity transactions as well as the trade in options needs to be carefully assessed.
    Powerful financial actors have access to foreknowledge pertaining to crucial political and military decisions (e.g. through their social ties to politicians).”
    — The western arsonists are OK with the upcoming catastrophe prepared by the warmongering rhetoric.

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  • @Cold N. Holefield
    Your timing is off. That Sabbatical wasn't related to his stand in Moscow from a Timing Perspective, however, I have no doubt it informed his decision to stay in Moscow and tough it out. If Stalin was Hitler, Stalin would have gone into an underground bunker and suicided himself and had his body burned. But Stalin was not Hitler, even though both were equally ruthless in their own right.

    It's conjectured he had a Nervous Breakdown. We'll never know. Maybe he did, or maybe his Sabbatical was more calculated. Those Organic Street Smarts sensed a Coup brewing, considering his paralytic non-response to Hitler's aggression, and he wanted to draw out the Conspirators. No Coup was forthcoming and those who would be Conspirators were instead his Loyal Champions.

    What his Sabbatical proved to him was the Loyalty of his closest Advisors & Confidantes, or his Yes Men if you will. They pleaded for him to return to his Duty and proclaimed that only he could lead Russia at that time. Afterall, Russia loves its Strong Men as witnessed by its Tzarist History.

    How did Joseph Stalin react to the German invasion during WWII?

    Some historians have even suggested that Stalin suffered some kind of nervous breakdown. Another, less popular theory is that Stalin deliberately withdrew from the scene, to avoid being ousted from power. When he saw that no one was about to challenge his authority he decided to take control of the situation. [9]
     
    As for Stalin and War Experience, give me a break. A Token Leadership Position in Russia's Internecine Civil Skirmishes, as bloody as they may have been, does not a War Expert make.

    The following describes it adequately.

    Stalin as a Military Leader

    Stalin’s reputation as a military leader is a hotly contested issue. He appointed himself the People’s Commissar for Defense in July 1941 and the commander in chief of the Soviet armed forces in August. As commander in chief, Stalin presided over the Supreme Command headquarters charged with the overall supervision, planning, and coordination of all military operations. Stalin possessed certain qualities, including a sharp memory, the ability to get to the root of the matter, and tremendous willpower, that distinguish military leaders.

    However, he lacked formal military education and military experience. Too often Stalin relied on the crude tactics of throwing masses of soldiers into frontal attacks that resulted in the prodigal waste of manpower. Many commentators blame Stalin for the incompetent meddling in military decision making during the first year of the war and for the exorbitant cost that the Red Army paid for their commander in chief’s “crash course” in military science.

    Despite the success in repelling the Nazis from Moscow in December 1941, the series of defeats continued into the first half of 1942. Germans took some of the vital agricultural areas and came close to seizing Stalingrad (now Volgograd) on the Volga and occupying North Caucasus. The situation at the front began to improve for the Soviets only from around August 1942. Significantly, this turnaround coincided with the establishment of the post of deputy to commander in chief and the appointment of Army General Georgy Zhukov to it. From that time on, Stalin increasingly relied on his deputy’s superior military knowledge and expertise in planning military operations.
     

    The situation at the front began to improve for the Soviets only from around August 1942. Significantly, this turnaround coincided with the establishment of the post of deputy to commander in chief and the appointment of Army General Georgy Zhukov to it. From that time on, Stalin increasingly relied on his deputy’s superior military knowledge and expertise in planning military operations.

    That’s true enough. Apparently Zhukov was the decisive voice on the acceptance of the successful strategic plan for the encirclement of German 6th Army at Stalingrad in November 1942 – overriding Stalin’s doubts – but Stalin did make it clear that Zhukov’s head depended on a positive result.

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  • Know the important presstitutes: https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/28/unpacking-the-shadowy-outfit-behind-2017s-biggest-fake-news-story/
    “Unpacking the Shadowy Outfit Behind 2017’s Biggest Fake News Story:” propornot

    Michael Weiss is the Editor-in-Chief at the InterpreterMag.com. According to his Linkd profile, he is also a National Security Analyst for CNN since July 2017 as well as an Investigative Reporter for International Affairs for CNN since April 2017. He has been a contributor there since 2015. He has been a Senior Editor at The Daily Beast since June 2015.
    Catherine A. Fitzpatrick is a Russian translator and analyst for the Interpreter. She has worked as an editor for EurasiaNet.org and the former Cold War project funded by the CIA, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL).
    Pierre Vaux is an analyst and translator for the Interpreter. He is a contributor to the Daily Beast, Foreign Policy, RFE/RL and Left Foot Forward and works at Dataminr Inc.
    James Miller is a Managing Editor of The Interpreter where he reports on Russia, Ukraine, and Syria. He is a contributor at Reuters, The Daily Beast, Foreign Policy, and other publications. Miller also works for the U.S. Embassy in Kiev “diplo-page” the Kiev Post.
    The Interpreter is a product of the Atlantic Council. Fellows working with the Atlantic Council in this area include:
    Bellingcat – Aric Toler and Eliot Higgins – This linked article shows how an underwear salesman became one of the most important faces of the deep state.
    Anne Applebaum – a committed Russophobe
    Irena Chalupa – a sister of Alexandra Chalupa that brought the term Russian hacking to worldwide attention. Irena Chalupa is a nonresident fellow with the Atlantic Council’s Dinu Patriciu Eurasia Center. She works with and for Ukrainian Intelligence through the Atlantic Council, Stopfake.org, and her sisters Andrea (EuromaidanPR) and Alexandra.
    Dimitry Alperovich – a CEO of Crowdstrike and a person who guessed Russia may have hacked something, somewhere, sometime.

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  • @annamaria
    The war-profiteering fools' main achievement: http://thesaker.is/a-curious-incident-part-xi/
    "An entire generation of Middle Eastern youth is now entering adulthood knowing only the misery of war, a series of destructive conflicts caused by intervening foreign armies. The rich citizens of the west have wreaked unimaginable pain and suffering, destroyed entire functioning societies, and have done so because death and destruction is the enlightened way to “democracy” and “freedom.”
    The "deciders" have an illusion of being protected from the vagaries afflicting "small people." No way. The "deciders"' children and grandchildren are already affected by the consequences of their stupid elders' crimes. There are more problems ahead -- named after the Cheney-Bush-Bair criminal triumvirate.

    Ah, The Saker.

    It’s incredible the attention this obvious Provocateur receives. He really knows how to Play It, I’ll give him that.

    I have no doubt, being a descendant of White Russians, The Saker has a particular fondness for Ivan Ilyin, as does Putin, and I think Ilyin is the Tie that Binds The Saker and Putin and Fascists everywhere it seems.

    This article explains.

    Ivan Ilyin, Putin’s Philosopher of Russian Fascism

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    Putin’s reinterment of Ilyin’s remains was a mystical release from this contradiction. Ilyin had been expelled from Russia by the Soviet security service; his corpse was reburied alongside the remains of its victims. Putin had Ilyin’s corpse interred at a monastery where the NKVD, the heir to the Cheka and the predecessor of the KGB, had interred the ashes of thousands of Soviet citizens executed in the Great Terror. When Putin later visited the site to lay flowers on Ilyin’s grave, he was in the company of an Orthodox monk who saw the NKVD executioners as Russian patriots and therefore good men. At the time of the reburial, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church was a man who had previously served the KGB as an agent. After all, Ilyin’s justification for mass murder was the same as that of the Bolsheviks: the defense of an absolute good. As critics of his second book in the 1920s put it, Ilyin was a “Chekist for God.” He was reburied as such, with all possible honors conferred by the Chekists and by the men of God—and by the men of God who were Chekists, and by the Chekists who were men of God.

    Ilyin was returned, body and soul, to the Russia he had been forced to leave. And that very return, in its inattention to contradiction, in its disregard of fact, was the purest expression of respect for his legacy. To be sure, Ilyin opposed the Soviet system. Yet, once the USSR ceased to exist in 1991, it was history—and the past, for Ilyin, was nothing but cognitive raw material for a literature of eternal virtue. Modifying Ilyin’s views about Russian innocence ever so slightly, Russian leaders could see the Soviet Union not as a foreign imposition upon Russia, as Ilyin had, but rather as Russia itself, and so virtuous despite appearances. Any faults of the Soviet system became necessary Russian reactions to the prior hostility of the West.

    Ilyin’s arguments were everywhere as Russian troops entered Ukraine multiple times in 2014. As soldiers received their mobilization orders for the invasion of the Ukraine’s Crimean province in January 2014, all of Russia’s high-ranking bureaucrats and regional governors were sent a copy of Ilyin’s Our Tasks. After Russian troops occupied Crimea and the Russian parliament voted for annexation, Putin cited Ilyin again as justification. The Russian commander sent to oversee the second major movement of Russian troops into Ukraine, to the southeastern provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk in summer 2014, described the war’s final goal in terms that Ilyin would have understood: “If the world were saved from demonic constructions such as the United States, it would be easier for everyone to live. And one of these days it will happen.”

    Anyone following Russian politics could see in early 2016 that the Russian elite preferred Donald Trump to become the Republican nominee for president and then to defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election. In the spring of that year, Russian military intelligence was boasting of an effort to help Trump win. In the Russian assault on American democracy that followed, the main weapon was falsehood. Donald Trump is another masculinity-challenged kleptocrat from the realm of fiction, in his case that of reality television. His campaign was helped by the elaborate untruths that Russia distributed about his opponent. In office, Trump imitates Putin in his pursuit of political post-truth: first filling the public sphere with lies, then blaming the institutions whose purpose is to seek facts, and finally rejoicing in the resulting confusion. Russian assistance to Trump weakened American trust in the institutions that Russia has been unable to build. Such trust was already in decline, thanks to America’s own media culture and growing inequality.

    Ilyin meant to be the prophet of our age, the post-Soviet age, and perhaps he is. His disbelief in this world allows politics to take place in a fictional one. He made of lawlessness a virtue so pure as to be invisible, and so absolute as to demand the destruction of the West. He shows us how fragile masculinity generates enemies, how perverted Christianity rejects Jesus, how economic inequality imitates innocence, and how fascist ideas flow into the postmodern. This is no longer just Russian philosophy. It is now American life.

    The Enemy of my Enemy is not necessarily my Friend. In the case of The Saker and Putin, they are not my Friends, and if they’re your Friends, perhaps you need to think twice about their Designs & Intentions.

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  • The presstitutes are in a panic mode: http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/19/technology/youtube-ads-extreme-content-investigation/index.html
    The whoring Paul P. Murphy, Kaya Yurieff, and Gianluca Mezzofiore play three imbeciles that have discovered (oh, horror!) that The Jimmy Dore Show does not comply with the “deciders” orders:
    “The Jimmy Dore Show channel, a far-left YouTube channel that peddles conspiracy theories, such as the idea that Syrian chemical weapons attacks are hoaxes.”
    Could you imagine? — Jimmy dares to question the pronouncement of the US-funded White Helmets and the whole CIA-guided establishment at the MSM, including the whoring CNN and The New York Times!
    Poor Murphy, Yurieff, and Mezzofiore are terrified of the reality where the intelligent people with integrity rely on the facts and pursue the truth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2TRzA2ezk

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  • @Miro23

    The Nazis were at Moscow’s Doorstep and Stalin was all set to flee the Russian Capital to a Spider Hole in the Countryside when at the last minute, or second actually, he decided to remain and tough it out.
     
    No he didn't - he had a nervous breakdown.

    Either way, after three days, a small delegation came knocking at his door. Headed by Molotov (pictured to Stalin’s right), Lavrentii Beria(Stalin’s Chief of Secret Police), Kliment Voroshilov (Defence, to Stalin’s left) and Anastas Mikoyan (Foreign Trade), they found Stalin sitting at his desk. He had on his face a look of fear. Mikoyan later wrote, “I have no doubt – he decided we had come to arrest him.” Stalin was looking thinner, haggard and hadn’t changed his clothes.

    “Why have you come?” he asked.

    Molotov stepped forward, “We’re asking you to return to work.”
     
    http://www.historyinanhour.com/2011/07/01/stalins-breakdown/

    Your timing is off. That Sabbatical wasn’t related to his stand in Moscow from a Timing Perspective, however, I have no doubt it informed his decision to stay in Moscow and tough it out. If Stalin was Hitler, Stalin would have gone into an underground bunker and suicided himself and had his body burned. But Stalin was not Hitler, even though both were equally ruthless in their own right.

    It’s conjectured he had a Nervous Breakdown. We’ll never know. Maybe he did, or maybe his Sabbatical was more calculated. Those Organic Street Smarts sensed a Coup brewing, considering his paralytic non-response to Hitler’s aggression, and he wanted to draw out the Conspirators. No Coup was forthcoming and those who would be Conspirators were instead his Loyal Champions.

    What his Sabbatical proved to him was the Loyalty of his closest Advisors & Confidantes, or his Yes Men if you will. They pleaded for him to return to his Duty and proclaimed that only he could lead Russia at that time. Afterall, Russia loves its Strong Men as witnessed by its Tzarist History.

    How did Joseph Stalin react to the German invasion during WWII?

    Some historians have even suggested that Stalin suffered some kind of nervous breakdown. Another, less popular theory is that Stalin deliberately withdrew from the scene, to avoid being ousted from power. When he saw that no one was about to challenge his authority he decided to take control of the situation. [9]

    As for Stalin and War Experience, give me a break. A Token Leadership Position in Russia’s Internecine Civil Skirmishes, as bloody as they may have been, does not a War Expert make.

    The following describes it adequately.

    Stalin as a Military Leader

    Stalin’s reputation as a military leader is a hotly contested issue. He appointed himself the People’s Commissar for Defense in July 1941 and the commander in chief of the Soviet armed forces in August. As commander in chief, Stalin presided over the Supreme Command headquarters charged with the overall supervision, planning, and coordination of all military operations. Stalin possessed certain qualities, including a sharp memory, the ability to get to the root of the matter, and tremendous willpower, that distinguish military leaders.

    However, he lacked formal military education and military experience. Too often Stalin relied on the crude tactics of throwing masses of soldiers into frontal attacks that resulted in the prodigal waste of manpower. Many commentators blame Stalin for the incompetent meddling in military decision making during the first year of the war and for the exorbitant cost that the Red Army paid for their commander in chief’s “crash course” in military science.

    Despite the success in repelling the Nazis from Moscow in December 1941, the series of defeats continued into the first half of 1942. Germans took some of the vital agricultural areas and came close to seizing Stalingrad (now Volgograd) on the Volga and occupying North Caucasus. The situation at the front began to improve for the Soviets only from around August 1942. Significantly, this turnaround coincided with the establishment of the post of deputy to commander in chief and the appointment of Army General Georgy Zhukov to it. From that time on, Stalin increasingly relied on his deputy’s superior military knowledge and expertise in planning military operations.

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    The situation at the front began to improve for the Soviets only from around August 1942. Significantly, this turnaround coincided with the establishment of the post of deputy to commander in chief and the appointment of Army General Georgy Zhukov to it. From that time on, Stalin increasingly relied on his deputy’s superior military knowledge and expertise in planning military operations.
     
    That's true enough. Apparently Zhukov was the decisive voice on the acceptance of the successful strategic plan for the encirclement of German 6th Army at Stalingrad in November 1942 - overriding Stalin's doubts - but Stalin did make it clear that Zhukov's head depended on a positive result.
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  • The war-profiteering fools’ main achievement: http://thesaker.is/a-curious-incident-part-xi/
    “An entire generation of Middle Eastern youth is now entering adulthood knowing only the misery of war, a series of destructive conflicts caused by intervening foreign armies. The rich citizens of the west have wreaked unimaginable pain and suffering, destroyed entire functioning societies, and have done so because death and destruction is the enlightened way to “democracy” and “freedom.”
    The “deciders” have an illusion of being protected from the vagaries afflicting “small people.” No way. The “deciders”‘ children and grandchildren are already affected by the consequences of their stupid elders’ crimes. There are more problems ahead — named after the Cheney-Bush-Bair criminal triumvirate.

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    Ah, The Saker.

    It's incredible the attention this obvious Provocateur receives. He really knows how to Play It, I'll give him that.

    I have no doubt, being a descendant of White Russians, The Saker has a particular fondness for Ivan Ilyin, as does Putin, and I think Ilyin is the Tie that Binds The Saker and Putin and Fascists everywhere it seems.

    This article explains.

    Ivan Ilyin, Putin’s Philosopher of Russian Fascism

    Putin’s reinterment of Ilyin’s remains was a mystical release from this contradiction. Ilyin had been expelled from Russia by the Soviet security service; his corpse was reburied alongside the remains of its victims. Putin had Ilyin’s corpse interred at a monastery where the NKVD, the heir to the Cheka and the predecessor of the KGB, had interred the ashes of thousands of Soviet citizens executed in the Great Terror. When Putin later visited the site to lay flowers on Ilyin’s grave, he was in the company of an Orthodox monk who saw the NKVD executioners as Russian patriots and therefore good men. At the time of the reburial, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church was a man who had previously served the KGB as an agent. After all, Ilyin’s justification for mass murder was the same as that of the Bolsheviks: the defense of an absolute good. As critics of his second book in the 1920s put it, Ilyin was a “Chekist for God.” He was reburied as such, with all possible honors conferred by the Chekists and by the men of God—and by the men of God who were Chekists, and by the Chekists who were men of God.

    Ilyin was returned, body and soul, to the Russia he had been forced to leave. And that very return, in its inattention to contradiction, in its disregard of fact, was the purest expression of respect for his legacy. To be sure, Ilyin opposed the Soviet system. Yet, once the USSR ceased to exist in 1991, it was history—and the past, for Ilyin, was nothing but cognitive raw material for a literature of eternal virtue. Modifying Ilyin’s views about Russian innocence ever so slightly, Russian leaders could see the Soviet Union not as a foreign imposition upon Russia, as Ilyin had, but rather as Russia itself, and so virtuous despite appearances. Any faults of the Soviet system became necessary Russian reactions to the prior hostility of the West.

    Ilyin’s arguments were everywhere as Russian troops entered Ukraine multiple times in 2014. As soldiers received their mobilization orders for the invasion of the Ukraine’s Crimean province in January 2014, all of Russia’s high-ranking bureaucrats and regional governors were sent a copy of Ilyin’s Our Tasks. After Russian troops occupied Crimea and the Russian parliament voted for annexation, Putin cited Ilyin again as justification. The Russian commander sent to oversee the second major movement of Russian troops into Ukraine, to the southeastern provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk in summer 2014, described the war’s final goal in terms that Ilyin would have understood: “If the world were saved from demonic constructions such as the United States, it would be easier for everyone to live. And one of these days it will happen.”

    Anyone following Russian politics could see in early 2016 that the Russian elite preferred Donald Trump to become the Republican nominee for president and then to defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election. In the spring of that year, Russian military intelligence was boasting of an effort to help Trump win. In the Russian assault on American democracy that followed, the main weapon was falsehood. Donald Trump is another masculinity-challenged kleptocrat from the realm of fiction, in his case that of reality television. His campaign was helped by the elaborate untruths that Russia distributed about his opponent. In office, Trump imitates Putin in his pursuit of political post-truth: first filling the public sphere with lies, then blaming the institutions whose purpose is to seek facts, and finally rejoicing in the resulting confusion. Russian assistance to Trump weakened American trust in the institutions that Russia has been unable to build. Such trust was already in decline, thanks to America’s own media culture and growing inequality.

    Ilyin meant to be the prophet of our age, the post-Soviet age, and perhaps he is. His disbelief in this world allows politics to take place in a fictional one. He made of lawlessness a virtue so pure as to be invisible, and so absolute as to demand the destruction of the West. He shows us how fragile masculinity generates enemies, how perverted Christianity rejects Jesus, how economic inequality imitates innocence, and how fascist ideas flow into the postmodern. This is no longer just Russian philosophy. It is now American life.
     
    The Enemy of my Enemy is not necessarily my Friend. In the case of The Saker and Putin, they are not my Friends, and if they're your Friends, perhaps you need to think twice about their Designs & Intentions.
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  • The tribal fealty trumps reason.

    Tribal fealty can be (and frequently is and has been) rational and reasonable.

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  • I am delighted to see Pat Lang’s article here at the Unz Review.

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  • @Cold N. Holefield
    @annamaria

    You can agree or not agree with with my postulations, but my expertise is irrelevant. The material I present is what is relevant. Weigh it on its merits, instead of weighing me on my merits. I'm just the Message In A Bottle.

    Stalin had no experience or expertise in War and yet he's largely responsible for the defeat of Nazi Germany in WWII. Using your logic, we can conclude Stalin, because he had no expertise in War and because he had murdered and exiled most everyone in Russia who did, should have lost the War. The Nazis were at Moscow's Doorstep and Stalin was all set to flee the Russian Capital to a Spider Hole in the Countryside when at the last minute, or second actually, he decided to remain and tough it out. He had NO EXPERTISE. But he did have Gut Instinct, Organic Street Smarts and incredible Resolve. Just ask Putin, he'll tell you. Stalin truly was The Man of Steel, yet he was an expert at NOTHING. Thank goodness The Soviet Union wasn't inundated with your vaunted Experts or else Stalin would have been instructed to flee to the Countryside with his tail between his legs and we'd all be speaking and typing German right now and The Jews would have been eliminated entirely. In that respect, The Jews should worship Stalin more than they do Oscar Schindler. In the end, it was Stalin who saved their asses, not the recalcitrant FDR who had to be brought kicking & screaming into War against Germany.

    Anyway, Lang completely overlooks Vietnam in his Narrative. How are The NeoCons and/or The Zionists responsible for Vietnam? For Korea? For Afghanistan? What about Libya? Was that The Zionists' idea too? I agree that AIPAC should be outlawed as all Special Interests and all Lobbying should be outlawed, but The Zionists cannot be blamed for everything just as The NeoCons cannot and I agree with the other Commentators who say that NeoCon for many is shorthand for Zionist.

    Lang can't point fingers at The Neocons and use the examples throughout American History he's provided and not also point the finger at himself for his emphatic involvement in Vietnam unless he's willing to seek Redemption for his Crimes Against Humanity and properly atone as Smedley Butler did and call War out for what it really is, a Racket and a Blood Sacrifice to Moloch because sometimes that's the only explanation of War that fits.

    There's a hell of a lot of History he skipped between the Spanish-American War in 1898 and the War referred to euphemistically as Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003. Like, say, The Vietnam War. It's History, isn't it? It was about Manifest Destiny, wasn't it? It was Imperialism, wasn't it? Oh wait, sorry, The Vietnam War was allegedly about The Truman Doctrine, wasn't it? Silly me. There is a difference, you know. Semantics mean everything, at least when you're Splitting Hairs. What they both have in common, Manifest Destiny and The Truman Doctrine, is that they are both Imperialism. The Truman Doctrine feigned to be saving Indigenous Cultures from Communist Cultural Decimation but what it really was doing was saving Indigenous Cultures from Communist Cultural Decimation so that said Indigenous Cultures could ultimately be transformed into Capitalist Cultural Enclaves replete with Capitalist Consumer Culture. Nuance matters, even if the Goal is still the same.

    Of course, in America's effort to pick up where the Colonial French left off and preserve French Culture in Vietnam with an American Twist, 3 to 5 million Vietnamese were senselessly murdered. Had America minded its own business and kept to itself, those millions of Vietnamese who were senselessly murdered would have lived a full life and another 10 million or so would never have been injured and traumatized. Pat Lang did some of that murdering, injuring & traumatizing. The extent of what he did we'll never know, but considering he was Special Ops, it's a Good Bet it was Merciless & Gruesome. In otherwords, Atrocious.

    The Nazis were at Moscow’s Doorstep and Stalin was all set to flee the Russian Capital to a Spider Hole in the Countryside when at the last minute, or second actually, he decided to remain and tough it out.

    No he didn’t – he had a nervous breakdown.

    Either way, after three days, a small delegation came knocking at his door. Headed by Molotov (pictured to Stalin’s right), Lavrentii Beria(Stalin’s Chief of Secret Police), Kliment Voroshilov (Defence, to Stalin’s left) and Anastas Mikoyan (Foreign Trade), they found Stalin sitting at his desk. He had on his face a look of fear. Mikoyan later wrote, “I have no doubt – he decided we had come to arrest him.” Stalin was looking thinner, haggard and hadn’t changed his clothes.

    “Why have you come?” he asked.

    Molotov stepped forward, “We’re asking you to return to work.”

    http://www.historyinanhour.com/2011/07/01/stalins-breakdown/

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    Your timing is off. That Sabbatical wasn't related to his stand in Moscow from a Timing Perspective, however, I have no doubt it informed his decision to stay in Moscow and tough it out. If Stalin was Hitler, Stalin would have gone into an underground bunker and suicided himself and had his body burned. But Stalin was not Hitler, even though both were equally ruthless in their own right.

    It's conjectured he had a Nervous Breakdown. We'll never know. Maybe he did, or maybe his Sabbatical was more calculated. Those Organic Street Smarts sensed a Coup brewing, considering his paralytic non-response to Hitler's aggression, and he wanted to draw out the Conspirators. No Coup was forthcoming and those who would be Conspirators were instead his Loyal Champions.

    What his Sabbatical proved to him was the Loyalty of his closest Advisors & Confidantes, or his Yes Men if you will. They pleaded for him to return to his Duty and proclaimed that only he could lead Russia at that time. Afterall, Russia loves its Strong Men as witnessed by its Tzarist History.

    How did Joseph Stalin react to the German invasion during WWII?

    Some historians have even suggested that Stalin suffered some kind of nervous breakdown. Another, less popular theory is that Stalin deliberately withdrew from the scene, to avoid being ousted from power. When he saw that no one was about to challenge his authority he decided to take control of the situation. [9]
     
    As for Stalin and War Experience, give me a break. A Token Leadership Position in Russia's Internecine Civil Skirmishes, as bloody as they may have been, does not a War Expert make.

    The following describes it adequately.

    Stalin as a Military Leader

    Stalin’s reputation as a military leader is a hotly contested issue. He appointed himself the People’s Commissar for Defense in July 1941 and the commander in chief of the Soviet armed forces in August. As commander in chief, Stalin presided over the Supreme Command headquarters charged with the overall supervision, planning, and coordination of all military operations. Stalin possessed certain qualities, including a sharp memory, the ability to get to the root of the matter, and tremendous willpower, that distinguish military leaders.

    However, he lacked formal military education and military experience. Too often Stalin relied on the crude tactics of throwing masses of soldiers into frontal attacks that resulted in the prodigal waste of manpower. Many commentators blame Stalin for the incompetent meddling in military decision making during the first year of the war and for the exorbitant cost that the Red Army paid for their commander in chief’s “crash course” in military science.

    Despite the success in repelling the Nazis from Moscow in December 1941, the series of defeats continued into the first half of 1942. Germans took some of the vital agricultural areas and came close to seizing Stalingrad (now Volgograd) on the Volga and occupying North Caucasus. The situation at the front began to improve for the Soviets only from around August 1942. Significantly, this turnaround coincided with the establishment of the post of deputy to commander in chief and the appointment of Army General Georgy Zhukov to it. From that time on, Stalin increasingly relied on his deputy’s superior military knowledge and expertise in planning military operations.
     
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  • @iffen


    One does not need to be an antisemite to loath zi0cons.
     
    I guess this might be true but it sure seems to help.
     
    You do understand that your comment was an attempt at complaining — don’t you?

    Anti-Semites loath ziocons.
    Every ziocon loather is an anti-Semite.
    Only anti-Semites use the term ziocon.

    We would not have this conversation

    I think that we might be having different conversations with each other.

    :)

    “Only anti-Semites use the term ziocon.”
    — This is why the Fifth column of Israel-firsters is unredeemable: The tribal fealty trumps reason.
    PS: The free-thinker and great human beings Baruch Spinoza was excommunicated; his grave is still outside of a Jewish cemetery.

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  • @Mightypeon
    Eh, prior to WW2 Stalin had leadership positions in:

    -Russian civil war
    -Polish Soviet war
    -Conflicts with the Chinese over the Transsiberian railway
    -Conflict with the Japanese at Kalkhin Gol and Lake Khasan
    -Winter War



    He was also a career criminal and these are frequently effective leaders. (Military historians are also frequently pretty good, ideally a military historian who is also a career criminal or serious revolutionary like Vo Ngyuen Giap).

    He was also a career criminal and these are frequently effective leaders.

    Great point. Chalk one up for The Donald. ;)

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  • Eh, prior to WW2 Stalin had leadership positions in:

    -Russian civil war
    -Polish Soviet war
    -Conflicts with the Chinese over the Transsiberian railway
    -Conflict with the Japanese at Kalkhin Gol and Lake Khasan
    -Winter War

    He was also a career criminal and these are frequently effective leaders. (Military historians are also frequently pretty good, ideally a military historian who is also a career criminal or serious revolutionary like Vo Ngyuen Giap).

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    He was also a career criminal and these are frequently effective leaders.
     
    Great point. Chalk one up for The Donald. ;)
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  • @Twodees Partain
    I don't know what disorder you're afflicted with, but I'll bet it's hard to spell.

    I don’t know what disorder you’re afflicted with

    It’s the one where I think I’m sane, normal and rational while most everyone else is looney.

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    Well, shit. I thought we all suffered from that one. I'm eaten up with it myself.
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  • One does not need to be an antisemite to loath zi0cons.

    I guess this might be true but it sure seems to help.

    You do understand that your comment was an attempt at complaining — don’t you?

    Anti-Semites loath ziocons.
    Every ziocon loather is an anti-Semite.
    Only anti-Semites use the term ziocon.

    We would not have this conversation

    I think that we might be having different conversations with each other.
    :)

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    "Only anti-Semites use the term ziocon."
    --- This is why the Fifth column of Israel-firsters is unredeemable: The tribal fealty trumps reason.
    PS: The free-thinker and great human beings Baruch Spinoza was excommunicated; his grave is still outside of a Jewish cemetery.
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  • @iffen
    The term “neoconservative” is used as a euphemism for “jews”, according to Jonah Goldberg.

    My God, you found a Jew who said (wrote) blah, blah. Discussion over, no more comments. No need for anyone else to think, read or write.

    I don’t know what disorder you’re afflicted with, but I’ll bet it’s hard to spell.

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    I don’t know what disorder you’re afflicted with

    It's the one where I think I'm sane, normal and rational while most everyone else is looney.

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  • @iffen
    One does not need to be an antisemite to loath zi0cons.

    I guess this might be true but it sure seems to help.

    You do understand that your comment was an attempt at complaining — don’t you? We would not have this conversation if not the cowardly behavior of the 52 major American Jewish organizations that have been placing the interests of Israel above the interests of the US.

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  • @RobinG
    Everyone has their shortcomings. I'm not a follower of Lang's blog, but I hear (from S2C, iirc), that Lang has disparaged Larry Wilkerson for having aided fraudulent war. Pretty hypocritical then, given Lang's own history.

    Now alleged that Lang has accused b. of MoA as anti-American. (((Is that the new anti-Semitism?))) If true, that's pretty pathetic. There are plenty of Lang fans here, but they should admit his blindside.

    We have covered this point already: Colonel Patrick Lang is a human being, not some angelic creature.
    Can he be abrasive? – yes, he can. He is a soldier and he can be brutally direct.
    For those complaining about the not-enough-gentle treatment on Lang’s blog – the blog is his territory. Don’t like it — don’t enter, particularly because Lang does not appreciate sloppy analytics. Try to create your own blog, under your own name, and try to attract the extraordinary people that participate in discussions on Lang’s blog.
    For those “anonymouses” that accuse Lang of being “on Putin’s payroll” and “soft on ziocons,” here is a simple question: How many of the “anonymouses” have refused the lucrative proposals in order to maintain their integrity and loyalty to the interests of their country? — We would never know the answer because they are, well, anonymous.
    Colonel Lang does not need my defense; he is a towering figure with the proven record of honesty, professionalism, and courage. This country would be in a much better shape if we had more such people as Lang.
    This simply a bigger picture that allows comparing the scales.

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  • @Twodees Partain
    The term "neoconservative" is used as a euphemism for "jews", according to Jonah Goldberg. In 2003, that's what Goldberg wrote, and though the link I found for his article at NR is long dead, Justin Raimondo's column from that year stated:

    "Under attack, and on the defensive, the neocons are now claiming that to even use the term "neoconservative" is to commit an anti-Semitic act. As Jonah Goldberg puts it:
    'People who want to denounce the influence of Jews get to use the word 'neocon' when they really mean 'Jewish conservatives' without being held accountable.' "

    http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j032203.html

    So, anyway.....some people use the word 'neocon' as a code word for 'evil jew' (not "jewish conservative"). Though some neocons aren't jews, enough are that using the word as a synonym works out well enough.

    The term “neoconservative” is used as a euphemism for “jews”, according to Jonah Goldberg.

    My God, you found a Jew who said (wrote) blah, blah. Discussion over, no more comments. No need for anyone else to think, read or write.

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  • anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @tradecraft46
    I am SAIS 1970 and the one lesson I got, which was at variance with the place, was simply that countries cannot tolerate disorder or chaos on their borders.

    It seems, too, that the best people to make that call are the people in the area, not the US.

    I am SAIS 1970 . . .

    My oh my.
    We are in awe at the tonnage of your ass.

    countries cannot tolerate disorder or chaos on their borders.

    does that apply to countries with no declared borders?
    and also to countries who deliberately create chaos on their (non)-borders?

    It seems, too, that the best people to make that call are the people in the area, not the US.

    At SAIS 1970, what was said about who should pay for the “people who make the call” about putting down — or creating — chaos on their (non) borders?

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  • @tradecraft46
    I am SAIS 1970 and the one lesson I got, which was at variance with the place, was simply that countries cannot tolerate disorder or chaos on their borders.

    It seems, too, that the best people to make that call are the people in the area, not the US.

    Except that IsraHell CAUSES disorder and chaos on its (well, there aren’t any, are there?) borders….. and beyond.

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    Not according to most anti-Semites.
     
    You think zionism is simple?
    Tell us more, orphan iffen.

    Not according to most anti-Semites.

    You think zionism is simple?
    Tell us more, orphan iffen.

    Notice that I said “according to most anti-Semites,” not according to iffen.

    But since you ask, I do think that it is simple nationalism.

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  • @annamaria
    One does not need to be an antisemite to loath zi0cons.
    Theresa & Boris' subordination to the ziocon "dealers:" http://thesaker.is/each-click-brings-us-one-step-closer-to-the-bang/
    "Have the Skripal and Douma false flag chemical (pseudo-) attacks been sufficient to re-subordinate the post-Brexit EU to the Anglosphere and have the AngloZionists been successful in forging a united front for a “Crusade against Russia”? The majority of EU governments have been willing to endorse any nonsense or violation of international law under the pretext of “solidarity”, but there are still quite a few cracks in this apparent unity.
    At this moment the situation is extremely fluid and there are too many potential variables which can determine the next developments in order to make a prediction better than a wild guess. The only thing which is certain that this confrontation between the AngloZionist Hegemony and Russia is far from over, both in Syria and elsewhere (the Ukraine)."
    --- Do you personally believe that the stupidity of the UK government re Skripal affair is totally endogenous? It looks that it was Theresa & Boris' servility to the ziocon agenda that exposed them (and M16) as total fools.

    One does not need to be an antisemite to loath zi0cons.

    I guess this might be true but it sure seems to help.

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  • The good thing about this CIA attempt to blame the Jews is that it will stoke a lot of hatred of the Jewish State’s fifth column. Then when the tipping point of Zionazi genocide is reached, all the treasonous US-national Mossad agents will go to ground to save their skins and Israel will go down like a ton of bricks. The Palestinian majority will rule.

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  • The Zionists will stop at nothing to protect their enclave. Just who is the terrorist here?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43851065

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  • I am SAIS 1970 and the one lesson I got, which was at variance with the place, was simply that countries cannot tolerate disorder or chaos on their borders.

    It seems, too, that the best people to make that call are the people in the area, not the US.

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    Except that IsraHell CAUSES disorder and chaos on its (well, there aren't any, are there?) borders..... and beyond.
    , @anon

    I am SAIS 1970 . . .
     
    My oh my.
    We are in awe at the tonnage of your ass.

    countries cannot tolerate disorder or chaos on their borders.
     
    does that apply to countries with no declared borders?
    and also to countries who deliberately create chaos on their (non)-borders?

    It seems, too, that the best people to make that call are the people in the area, not the US.
     
    At SAIS 1970, what was said about who should pay for the "people who make the call" about putting down -- or creating -- chaos on their (non) borders?
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  • @Z-man
    Hayden (Michael, CIA) is slick, I met him once. Morell (Michael, CIA) is a comical lightweight, a plus to have on the opposing side. A 'zero' is a plus. LOL

    Hayden (Michael, CIA) is slick,

    Get the L out of there.

    Hayden is a sell-out to the dark side/deep state.

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  • @annamaria
    And how honorable are you by hiding behind the name of von Borcke? Are you a perfect being?
    Patrick Lang does not need your approval or disapproval. He is above it.
    When you write, "He actively participated in the birth of Eretz Israel and the destruction of Christianity," this is not even laughable -- this is a mechanical slander by an ignoramus. Do you know when Israel was established? Do you know Lang's age?
    He is a real person. He grew up and matured in various respects, including his understanding of American reality. You are not in a position to criticize his integrity and expertise and guts: Remember, you are hiding behind the von Borcke's name.
    Again, are you an angelic being? Do you have the same hatred for Smedley Darlington Butler, the most decorated American general in the US history? Butler "participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, in Central America and the Caribbean..." -- Read about him, "Heron." Butler was a person of tremendous courage, a true American patriot.
    It would not be surprising to learn that you work for hasbara which cannot forgive Lang's opposition -- the intelligent and articulated opposition, not some hysterical exclamations -- to wars for Israel and to zionizaton of the US army and Congress.

    Everyone has their shortcomings. I’m not a follower of Lang’s blog, but I hear (from S2C, iirc), that Lang has disparaged Larry Wilkerson for having aided fraudulent war. Pretty hypocritical then, given Lang’s own history.

    Now alleged that Lang has accused b. of MoA as anti-American. (((Is that the new anti-Semitism?))) If true, that’s pretty pathetic. There are plenty of Lang fans here, but they should admit his blindside.

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    We have covered this point already: Colonel Patrick Lang is a human being, not some angelic creature.
    Can he be abrasive? - yes, he can. He is a soldier and he can be brutally direct.
    For those complaining about the not-enough-gentle treatment on Lang's blog - the blog is his territory. Don't like it -- don't enter, particularly because Lang does not appreciate sloppy analytics. Try to create your own blog, under your own name, and try to attract the extraordinary people that participate in discussions on Lang's blog.
    For those "anonymouses" that accuse Lang of being "on Putin's payroll" and "soft on ziocons," here is a simple question: How many of the "anonymouses" have refused the lucrative proposals in order to maintain their integrity and loyalty to the interests of their country? -- We would never know the answer because they are, well, anonymous.
    Colonel Lang does not need my defense; he is a towering figure with the proven record of honesty, professionalism, and courage. This country would be in a much better shape if we had more such people as Lang.
    This simply a bigger picture that allows comparing the scales.
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  • @bjondo
    I wrote what I meant. But you are funny. Obviously IVY educated. Occupying Jew or paid local?
    Time-wasting service free?

    Wrong on all counts, but nice try: Your reply is short on facts, but long on bogus accusations.

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  • @annamaria
    "Zionism must be defeated."
    -- Agree. The amoral silence by the 52 major American Jewish organizations with regard to ziocons' criminal warmongering and Israel's crimes puts a huge stain on the US Jewish community at large.
    However -- are we all Cheneys? Are we all Bush the lesser and Tony the Pious? The clueless warmonger Gavin Williamson is a pure Englishman. The subhuman Hayden and Morell are not Jewish.
    Whereas Oded Yinon plan has identified the "goals" for the Middle East, it was Clinton who made possible the destruction of Lybia. The Kagans' clan was promoting a regime change in Ukraine, but it was Brennan who provided the necessary support. The ziocons have got the power in the US thanks to the Fifth Column.
    Sharpen your spear towards the real culprits, whatever their ethnicity.

    Hayden (Michael, CIA) is slick, I met him once. Morell (Michael, CIA) is a comical lightweight, a plus to have on the opposing side. A ‘zero’ is a plus. LOL

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    Hayden (Michael, CIA) is slick,
     
    Get the L out of there.

    Hayden is a sell-out to the dark side/deep state.
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  • @Heros
    "You are more of a simpleton than I had thought. You should stay off my blog."

    Typical Pat Lang, not satisfied with his wishy washy bulling and banning behavior on his own blog, he carries it over to Unz.

    The real reason Lang cannot seem to be able to connect the dots and acknowledge the corrosive and even genocidal effects of this racial supremacist religion cum race is the same reason none of his ilk will even bother to take a deep look at 9/11. It is called culpability.

    For if the Neocons or Zionists, most of us don't care to make a distinction because they are serving the same masters, are guilty of half of the crimes that Lang openly admits, then Lang is as guilty as any "Nazi" hung after Nuremburg.

    So like the vast majority of Americans, his logic and thinking are befuddled with cognitive dissonance. He can accept contradictions like Good War and Hiroshima. Or ignore and cover up US actions in Vietnam because it was the most important event in his and his war-buddies lifes.

    The important question, is why is he allowed by ZOG to make the truth about Israel posts that he does. The answer is that he always toes their red line. He calls our owners the "BORG" instead of calling them "ZOG". He always stays away from evidence about how Zionists planned WWII through things like embargo's, ethnic cleansing of Germans in Poland and Czechoslovakia, or that the Zionists had been preparing the "Holocaust" for decades.

    In short, his blog, and this post, are limited hangouts. Sure, he has some interesting insights and inside information. So does Ben Shapiro or Jason Goodman, but you will never find a path to the truth by reading their drivel.

    So like the vast majority of Americans, his logic and thinking are befuddled with cognitive dissonance. He can accept contradictions like Good War and Hiroshima. Or ignore and cover up US actions in Vietnam because it was the most important event in his and his war-buddies lifes.

    You got an important point: Col. Lang certainly do not have any problems with accepting false narratives in the past. I was amazed by his behavior of shutting down comments on his blog (when he posted a propaganda piece about Stalin) because some commentators pointed out factual problems in there.

    But, I will keep following him just because he sometimes provides some glimpse of what the rulers of the US actually think

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  • @Sparkon

    The proof is in the pudding
     
    • Broken Record Dept.

    You've mangled an aphorism in a manner known as a malapropism. But you're not alone. I've seen other variations, and I was talking about this recently on another thread, where we read that "...the proof is in the putting..."


    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/ww3/#comment-2293748


    The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

    Succinctly put, the proof of the pudding is in the eating because -- for most of us -- the value of a pudding is based on how it tastes, not how it looks, or the chef's reputation, the restaurant's reviews, the elegance and luxurious ambiance of the surroundings, or even the beautiful fonts and error-free typesetting in the menu. In the realm of food where pudding resides, the definitive question is: does it taste good, or not? By the extraordinarily clever expedient of eating the pudding, one can then determine its worth, and arrive at the proof of the pudding.

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating because results are what matters, not all the claims and bragging.

    I wrote what I meant. But you are funny. Obviously IVY educated. Occupying Jew or paid local?
    Time-wasting service free?

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  • @bjondo
    The proof is in the pudding. Check out the pudding and the cooks.
    If you can from your telviv cubicle or your DC neocon propaganda tank.

    The proof is in the pudding

    • Broken Record Dept.

    You’ve mangled an aphorism in a manner known as a malapropism. But you’re not alone. I’ve seen other variations, and I was talking about this recently on another thread, where we read that “…the proof is in the putting…”

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/ww3/#comment-2293748

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

    Succinctly put, the proof of the pudding is in the eating because — for most of us — the value of a pudding is based on how it tastes, not how it looks, or the chef’s reputation, the restaurant’s reviews, the elegance and luxurious ambiance of the surroundings, or even the beautiful fonts and error-free typesetting in the menu. In the realm of food where pudding resides, the definitive question is: does it taste good, or not? By the extraordinarily clever expedient of eating the pudding, one can then determine its worth, and arrive at the proof of the pudding.

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating because results are what matters, not all the claims and bragging.

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    I wrote what I meant. But you are funny. Obviously IVY educated. Occupying Jew or paid local?
    Time-wasting service free?
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  • @annamaria
    "Zionism must be defeated."
    -- Agree. The amoral silence by the 52 major American Jewish organizations with regard to ziocons' criminal warmongering and Israel's crimes puts a huge stain on the US Jewish community at large.
    However -- are we all Cheneys? Are we all Bush the lesser and Tony the Pious? The clueless warmonger Gavin Williamson is a pure Englishman. The subhuman Hayden and Morell are not Jewish.
    Whereas Oded Yinon plan has identified the "goals" for the Middle East, it was Clinton who made possible the destruction of Lybia. The Kagans' clan was promoting a regime change in Ukraine, but it was Brennan who provided the necessary support. The ziocons have got the power in the US thanks to the Fifth Column.
    Sharpen your spear towards the real culprits, whatever their ethnicity.

    Criminals tend to be silent about themselves.

    Clintons, Cheney, Brennan, ilk are useful tools – Jew pets. Pets to be used when Jew can’t exercise actual power and to be face for crimes with Jew in background.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I would be all for reducing interventions and the posts designed for that purpose. But not all military aide is for military purposes. The US has one of the largest humanitarian aide programs in the world -- and some of that is military.


    Reducing unnecessary force and improving our footprint is not objectionable on point -- but before agreeing to any such proposals -- one would need specific about what 80% means and looks like.

    The specifics of the 80% Reduction can be worked out after much back & forth, but it should be a Transparent Truly Democratic Process not dominated by Bought & Paid For Whore Politicians. But first, you, or we collectively, have to agree to an 80% Reduction. That Reduction can occur in phases and be completed after ten years.

    The Pentagon is not transparent as to how many Military Installations it has established across The Planet, but the number is approximately 800 give or take a 100 to 150. I propose ALL of those Installations be Shuttered within ten years.

    Special Ops will be no more. The Marines will no longer be necessary since Aggressive Interventionist War will be a thing of the past. As I mentioned, the Hierarchical Structure of the American Military will have to be entirely transformed to better meet its new Goal & Mission. It will be leaner but much more responsible, accountable and effective to its new Core Mission & Purpose — protecting The Homeland here at Home.

    America’s Nuclear Arsenal will need to be reconfigured in a way that protects America from Russia & China when they scurry to fill the Power Vacuum created by this Reduction in Force. It will be made clear that if China & Russia, instead of following America’s Example they seek to exploit that Example and become Imperialist Interventionists themselves, they will be imperiling The World and risking Nuclear War. This Reduction is not a Capitulation or a Rolling Over and if China & Russia treat it as such and perceive it as Weakness, they will be sadly mistaken. America won’t be doing this merely to allow China & Russia to do in America’s Wake what America’s done all these live-long years. That’s why the Nuclear Deterrent in the face of this Reduction is vitally important, and that will require America to transform its Nuclear Arsenal into a Lean & Mean Klaatu.

    We are living in a World of significantly diminishing resources. The American Military is at the forefront of gobbling up the remaining resources at an exponential pace. It’s not only a Massive Gas Hog per se, but it’s The Hammer for a System that is destroying The Planet until there is no Planet left to destroy. America could lead The World in the 21st Century by Example versus Brute Hot & Cold Evil Force, and that Example is fostering the creation of an Economic System predicated not on Growth, but Contraction, the Goal of which is to live sustainably, or as sustainable as possible, with the Living Planet.

    Can Economic Growth Last?

    The answer is, when you apply proven Math & Physics, that it cannot. The sooner WE ALL accept that, the better off we’ll ALL be in the years ahead.

    The Conclusion from that Excellent Article linked to above.

    [MORE]

    Together with the last post, I have used physical analysis to argue that sustained economic growth in the long term is fantastical. Maybe for some, this is stating the obvious. After all, Adam Smith imagined a 200-year phase of economic growth followed by a steady state. But our mentality is currently centered on growth. Our economic systems rely on growth for investment, loans, and interest to make any sense. If we don’t deliberately put ourselves onto a steady state trajectory, we risk a complete and unchoreographed collapse of our economic institutions.

    Admittedly, the argument that economic growth will stop is not as direct a result of physics as is the argument that physical growth will stop, and as such represents a stretch outside my usual comfort zone. But besides physical limits, I think we must also apply notions of common sense and human psychology. The artificial world that must be envisioned to keep economic growth alive in the face of physical limits strikes me as preposterous and untenable. It would be an existence far removed from demonstrated modes of human economic activity. Not everyone would want to participate in this whimsical society, preferring instead to spend their puffy paychecks on constrained physical goods and energy (which is now dirt cheap, by the way, so a few individuals could easily afford to own all of it!).

    Recognizing the need to ultimately transition to a non-growth economy, I am personally disconcerted by the fact that we lack a tested economic system based on steady-state conditions. I would like to take a conservative, low-risk approach to the future and smartly place ourselves on a sustainable trajectory. There are well-developed steady-state economic models, pioneered by Herman Daly and others. There are even stepwise plans to transition our economy into a steady-state. But not one of those steps will be taken if people (who elect politicians) do not crave this result. The only way people will crave this result is if they understand (or experience) the impossibility of continued growth and the consequences of not acting soon enough. I hope we can collectively be smart enough to make this transition.

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    One does not need to be an antisemite to loath zi0cons.
     
    Ah but there's the rub. Five or more like ten years ago yes but today the MSM, the Jew-ish 'advocacy' groups in the West are institutionalizing anti Zionism as anti Semitic. Soon even negroes who protest against Israeli crimes against the Palestinians will be labeled anti Semites. Big brother is watching.
    Of course it doesn't affect the likes of some but others will be intimidated into silence, which it has unfortunately already done.
    Zionism must be defeated.

    “Zionism must be defeated.”
    – Agree. The amoral silence by the 52 major American Jewish organizations with regard to ziocons’ criminal warmongering and Israel’s crimes puts a huge stain on the US Jewish community at large.
    However — are we all Cheneys? Are we all Bush the lesser and Tony the Pious? The clueless warmonger Gavin Williamson is a pure Englishman. The subhuman Hayden and Morell are not Jewish.
    Whereas Oded Yinon plan has identified the “goals” for the Middle East, it was Clinton who made possible the destruction of Lybia. The Kagans’ clan was promoting a regime change in Ukraine, but it was Brennan who provided the necessary support. The ziocons have got the power in the US thanks to the Fifth Column.
    Sharpen your spear towards the real culprits, whatever their ethnicity.

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    Criminals tend to be silent about themselves.

    Clintons, Cheney, Brennan, ilk are useful tools - Jew pets. Pets to be used when Jew can't exercise actual power and to be face for crimes with Jew in background.
    , @Z-man
    Hayden (Michael, CIA) is slick, I met him once. Morell (Michael, CIA) is a comical lightweight, a plus to have on the opposing side. A 'zero' is a plus. LOL
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  • @Herald
    You say this without a shred of evidence and you are not trying to be being funny! You seem about as unpleasant as a Trump in a spacesuit.

    The proof is in the pudding. Check out the pudding and the cooks.
    If you can from your telviv cubicle or your DC neocon propaganda tank.

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    The proof is in the pudding
     
    • Broken Record Dept.

    You've mangled an aphorism in a manner known as a malapropism. But you're not alone. I've seen other variations, and I was talking about this recently on another thread, where we read that "...the proof is in the putting..."


    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/ww3/#comment-2293748


    The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

    Succinctly put, the proof of the pudding is in the eating because -- for most of us -- the value of a pudding is based on how it tastes, not how it looks, or the chef's reputation, the restaurant's reviews, the elegance and luxurious ambiance of the surroundings, or even the beautiful fonts and error-free typesetting in the menu. In the realm of food where pudding resides, the definitive question is: does it taste good, or not? By the extraordinarily clever expedient of eating the pudding, one can then determine its worth, and arrive at the proof of the pudding.

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating because results are what matters, not all the claims and bragging.

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  • @annamaria
    And how honorable are you by hiding behind the name of von Borcke? Are you a perfect being?
    Patrick Lang does not need your approval or disapproval. He is above it.
    When you write, "He actively participated in the birth of Eretz Israel and the destruction of Christianity," this is not even laughable -- this is a mechanical slander by an ignoramus. Do you know when Israel was established? Do you know Lang's age?
    He is a real person. He grew up and matured in various respects, including his understanding of American reality. You are not in a position to criticize his integrity and expertise and guts: Remember, you are hiding behind the von Borcke's name.
    Again, are you an angelic being? Do you have the same hatred for Smedley Darlington Butler, the most decorated American general in the US history? Butler "participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, in Central America and the Caribbean..." -- Read about him, "Heron." Butler was a person of tremendous courage, a true American patriot.
    It would not be surprising to learn that you work for hasbara which cannot forgive Lang's opposition -- the intelligent and articulated opposition, not some hysterical exclamations -- to wars for Israel and to zionizaton of the US army and Congress.

    On Sic Semper Tyrannis, the Colonel has had unkind words to say about General Butler’s intellect.

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    Arabs know Jews for what they are!

    First cousins.

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  • @bjondo
    In addition to corpses in his closet, wonder how much looted Russian loot in his off-shore account(s)?

    You say this without a shred of evidence and you are not trying to be being funny! You seem about as unpleasant as a Trump in a spacesuit.

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    The proof is in the pudding. Check out the pudding and the cooks.
    If you can from your telviv cubicle or your DC neocon propaganda tank.
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  • @Cold N. Holefield

    Americans do not need this war. Israel does.
     
    Fair enough, but tell me then, what War DOES America need? You leave the door open for more War. It appears Lang's Philosophy is to avoid War with China and/or Russia because War with either would quickly turn Nuclear. I agree with him, it would, therefore it should be a No Go.

    Considering that, since China & Russia are the only Legitimate Foes who can stand up to the American War Machine, any other War would be Pure Unadulterated Bullying. Beating up on Weak Opponents. War for War's Sake knowing you can never really lose and yet you never really win.

    We see from this that War is now an Arcane Notion. It no longer has any place. Nukes have rendered Real War irrelevant and impossible.

    And yet, Donald Trump recently increased America's War Budget to $716 billion and is reconfiguring America's Nuclear Arsenal so that the possibility of using Nukes in Combat becomes more probable. Trump's American War Budget, if he's still in office and gets a second term, which is dubious, will approach $1 trillion by 2020 to 2021.

    How do we as a Nation justify this if we claim we're not a Nation that craves and thrives on War?

    I propose we reduce our Military/War Footprint 80% over the next ten years. I propose that the American Military be entirely reconfigured from top to bottom and that its sole and only purpose is to protect The Homeland from attack. In otherwords, I propose closing all American Military Bases around The World and putting an end, once and for all, to American Imperialism and Foreign Interventionism.

    What say you annamaria? What say you Lang? Are you with me, or are you still in search of a Non-Zionist Inspired Real War which we now know is impossible. The only Real War that's possible now is a Nuclear War, or Armageddon if you will.

    I would be all for reducing interventions and the posts designed for that purpose. But not all military aide is for military purposes. The US has one of the largest humanitarian aide programs in the world — and some of that is military.

    Reducing unnecessary force and improving our footprint is not objectionable on point — but before agreeing to any such proposals — one would need specific about what 80% means and looks like.

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    The specifics of the 80% Reduction can be worked out after much back & forth, but it should be a Transparent Truly Democratic Process not dominated by Bought & Paid For Whore Politicians. But first, you, or we collectively, have to agree to an 80% Reduction. That Reduction can occur in phases and be completed after ten years.

    The Pentagon is not transparent as to how many Military Installations it has established across The Planet, but the number is approximately 800 give or take a 100 to 150. I propose ALL of those Installations be Shuttered within ten years.

    Special Ops will be no more. The Marines will no longer be necessary since Aggressive Interventionist War will be a thing of the past. As I mentioned, the Hierarchical Structure of the American Military will have to be entirely transformed to better meet its new Goal & Mission. It will be leaner but much more responsible, accountable and effective to its new Core Mission & Purpose — protecting The Homeland here at Home.

    America's Nuclear Arsenal will need to be reconfigured in a way that protects America from Russia & China when they scurry to fill the Power Vacuum created by this Reduction in Force. It will be made clear that if China & Russia, instead of following America's Example they seek to exploit that Example and become Imperialist Interventionists themselves, they will be imperiling The World and risking Nuclear War. This Reduction is not a Capitulation or a Rolling Over and if China & Russia treat it as such and perceive it as Weakness, they will be sadly mistaken. America won't be doing this merely to allow China & Russia to do in America's Wake what America's done all these live-long years. That's why the Nuclear Deterrent in the face of this Reduction is vitally important, and that will require America to transform its Nuclear Arsenal into a Lean & Mean Klaatu.

    We are living in a World of significantly diminishing resources. The American Military is at the forefront of gobbling up the remaining resources at an exponential pace. It's not only a Massive Gas Hog per se, but it's The Hammer for a System that is destroying The Planet until there is no Planet left to destroy. America could lead The World in the 21st Century by Example versus Brute Hot & Cold Evil Force, and that Example is fostering the creation of an Economic System predicated not on Growth, but Contraction, the Goal of which is to live sustainably, or as sustainable as possible, with the Living Planet.

    Can Economic Growth Last?

    The answer is, when you apply proven Math & Physics, that it cannot. The sooner WE ALL accept that, the better off we'll ALL be in the years ahead.

    The Conclusion from that Excellent Article linked to above.

    Together with the last post, I have used physical analysis to argue that sustained economic growth in the long term is fantastical. Maybe for some, this is stating the obvious. After all, Adam Smith imagined a 200-year phase of economic growth followed by a steady state. But our mentality is currently centered on growth. Our economic systems rely on growth for investment, loans, and interest to make any sense. If we don’t deliberately put ourselves onto a steady state trajectory, we risk a complete and unchoreographed collapse of our economic institutions.

    Admittedly, the argument that economic growth will stop is not as direct a result of physics as is the argument that physical growth will stop, and as such represents a stretch outside my usual comfort zone. But besides physical limits, I think we must also apply notions of common sense and human psychology. The artificial world that must be envisioned to keep economic growth alive in the face of physical limits strikes me as preposterous and untenable. It would be an existence far removed from demonstrated modes of human economic activity. Not everyone would want to participate in this whimsical society, preferring instead to spend their puffy paychecks on constrained physical goods and energy (which is now dirt cheap, by the way, so a few individuals could easily afford to own all of it!).

    Recognizing the need to ultimately transition to a non-growth economy, I am personally disconcerted by the fact that we lack a tested economic system based on steady-state conditions. I would like to take a conservative, low-risk approach to the future and smartly place ourselves on a sustainable trajectory. There are well-developed steady-state economic models, pioneered by Herman Daly and others. There are even stepwise plans to transition our economy into a steady-state. But not one of those steps will be taken if people (who elect politicians) do not crave this result. The only way people will crave this result is if they understand (or experience) the impossibility of continued growth and the consequences of not acting soon enough. I hope we can collectively be smart enough to make this transition.
     
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  • The US government continues showing the taxpayers’ money ($200 million, no less) on the criminal organization “White Helmets”: https://www.rt.com/usa/424717-us-pay-white-helmets-syria/

    “US-Supported Syrian White Helmets Involved with War Crimes Committed by Rebel Groups:” https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/01/us-supported-syrian-white-helmets-involved-with-war-crimes-committed-by-rebel-groups/
    “ISIS Is Likely Receiving Funding From People Living In Countries Allied With The US:” http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-funding-us-allies-2014-6
    “ISIS: The ‘Enemy’ The US Created, Armed, & Funded:” https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-02/isis-enemy-us-created-armed-funded
    “White Helmets Campaign for War NOT Peace:” http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/10/02/the-white-helmets-campaign-for-war-not-peace-rla-and-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-should-be-retracted/
    “The White Helmets have been proven to be no more than a support network for Al Nusra Front and associated extremist terrorist groups. In many documented instances, the White Helmets have been accused of carrying out criminal acts alongside the US-coalition armed and funded terrorist factions.”

    — Anything goes for Eretz Israel.

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  • @Cold N. Holefield
    @annamaria

    You can agree or not agree with with my postulations, but my expertise is irrelevant. The material I present is what is relevant. Weigh it on its merits, instead of weighing me on my merits. I'm just the Message In A Bottle.

    Stalin had no experience or expertise in War and yet he's largely responsible for the defeat of Nazi Germany in WWII. Using your logic, we can conclude Stalin, because he had no expertise in War and because he had murdered and exiled most everyone in Russia who did, should have lost the War. The Nazis were at Moscow's Doorstep and Stalin was all set to flee the Russian Capital to a Spider Hole in the Countryside when at the last minute, or second actually, he decided to remain and tough it out. He had NO EXPERTISE. But he did have Gut Instinct, Organic Street Smarts and incredible Resolve. Just ask Putin, he'll tell you. Stalin truly was The Man of Steel, yet he was an expert at NOTHING. Thank goodness The Soviet Union wasn't inundated with your vaunted Experts or else Stalin would have been instructed to flee to the Countryside with his tail between his legs and we'd all be speaking and typing German right now and The Jews would have been eliminated entirely. In that respect, The Jews should worship Stalin more than they do Oscar Schindler. In the end, it was Stalin who saved their asses, not the recalcitrant FDR who had to be brought kicking & screaming into War against Germany.

    Anyway, Lang completely overlooks Vietnam in his Narrative. How are The NeoCons and/or The Zionists responsible for Vietnam? For Korea? For Afghanistan? What about Libya? Was that The Zionists' idea too? I agree that AIPAC should be outlawed as all Special Interests and all Lobbying should be outlawed, but The Zionists cannot be blamed for everything just as The NeoCons cannot and I agree with the other Commentators who say that NeoCon for many is shorthand for Zionist.

    Lang can't point fingers at The Neocons and use the examples throughout American History he's provided and not also point the finger at himself for his emphatic involvement in Vietnam unless he's willing to seek Redemption for his Crimes Against Humanity and properly atone as Smedley Butler did and call War out for what it really is, a Racket and a Blood Sacrifice to Moloch because sometimes that's the only explanation of War that fits.

    There's a hell of a lot of History he skipped between the Spanish-American War in 1898 and the War referred to euphemistically as Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003. Like, say, The Vietnam War. It's History, isn't it? It was about Manifest Destiny, wasn't it? It was Imperialism, wasn't it? Oh wait, sorry, The Vietnam War was allegedly about The Truman Doctrine, wasn't it? Silly me. There is a difference, you know. Semantics mean everything, at least when you're Splitting Hairs. What they both have in common, Manifest Destiny and The Truman Doctrine, is that they are both Imperialism. The Truman Doctrine feigned to be saving Indigenous Cultures from Communist Cultural Decimation but what it really was doing was saving Indigenous Cultures from Communist Cultural Decimation so that said Indigenous Cultures could ultimately be transformed into Capitalist Cultural Enclaves replete with Capitalist Consumer Culture. Nuance matters, even if the Goal is still the same.

    Of course, in America's effort to pick up where the Colonial French left off and preserve French Culture in Vietnam with an American Twist, 3 to 5 million Vietnamese were senselessly murdered. Had America minded its own business and kept to itself, those millions of Vietnamese who were senselessly murdered would have lived a full life and another 10 million or so would never have been injured and traumatized. Pat Lang did some of that murdering, injuring & traumatizing. The extent of what he did we'll never know, but considering he was Special Ops, it's a Good Bet it was Merciless & Gruesome. In otherwords, Atrocious.

    Could you stay on point? — We have got that you are a Spotless Angelic Creature and a Messenger of The Truth.

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  • @annamaria
    One does not need to be an antisemite to loath zi0cons.
    Theresa & Boris' subordination to the ziocon "dealers:" http://thesaker.is/each-click-brings-us-one-step-closer-to-the-bang/
    "Have the Skripal and Douma false flag chemical (pseudo-) attacks been sufficient to re-subordinate the post-Brexit EU to the Anglosphere and have the AngloZionists been successful in forging a united front for a “Crusade against Russia”? The majority of EU governments have been willing to endorse any nonsense or violation of international law under the pretext of “solidarity”, but there are still quite a few cracks in this apparent unity.
    At this moment the situation is extremely fluid and there are too many potential variables which can determine the next developments in order to make a prediction better than a wild guess. The only thing which is certain that this confrontation between the AngloZionist Hegemony and Russia is far from over, both in Syria and elsewhere (the Ukraine)."
    --- Do you personally believe that the stupidity of the UK government re Skripal affair is totally endogenous? It looks that it was Theresa & Boris' servility to the ziocon agenda that exposed them (and M16) as total fools.

    One does not need to be an antisemite to loath zi0cons.

    Ah but there’s the rub. Five or more like ten years ago yes but today the MSM, the Jew-ish ‘advocacy’ groups in the West are institutionalizing anti Zionism as anti Semitic. Soon even negroes who protest against Israeli crimes against the Palestinians will be labeled anti Semites. Big brother is watching.
    Of course it doesn’t affect the likes of some but others will be intimidated into silence, which it has unfortunately already done.
    Zionism must be defeated.

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    "Zionism must be defeated."
    -- Agree. The amoral silence by the 52 major American Jewish organizations with regard to ziocons' criminal warmongering and Israel's crimes puts a huge stain on the US Jewish community at large.
    However -- are we all Cheneys? Are we all Bush the lesser and Tony the Pious? The clueless warmonger Gavin Williamson is a pure Englishman. The subhuman Hayden and Morell are not Jewish.
    Whereas Oded Yinon plan has identified the "goals" for the Middle East, it was Clinton who made possible the destruction of Lybia. The Kagans' clan was promoting a regime change in Ukraine, but it was Brennan who provided the necessary support. The ziocons have got the power in the US thanks to the Fifth Column.
    Sharpen your spear towards the real culprits, whatever their ethnicity.
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  • @annamaria
    The anti-American activity by American Enterprise Institute: "Two and a half cheers for the Syria strike:" https://www.aei.org/publication/two-and-a-half-cheers-for-the-syria-strike/
    The author, certain Dalibor Rohac, is an armchair general (zero military experience), who strives for Kagans' laurels. He needs to be sent to the frontline -- please, with his family, to learn about risks of a war. The scoundrel writes, "Of course, the intervention is not without its risks. One blemish is the existing divisions among European countries and even within the EU institutions." -- yes, this is what constitutes "risk" for the criminal warmonger.
    Dalibor Rohac knows who pays for his drivel and he tries hard to not disappoint his ziocon masters: "Another even more pressing problem is that the strikes on Friday do not go anywhere near changing the balance of power on the ground — and much less toward imposing sizable costs on the Iranian and Russian regimes who are effectively controlling the situation. Without a more aggressive posture particularly against Russia — involving additional sanctions against regime officials and oligarchs, asset freezes, and cutting Russian state-owned and state-connected banks from the global financial system — Vladimir Putin has little reason to seriously rethink his complicity in Mr. Assad’s war crimes."
    He is an open liar -- there is nothing "alleged" in his lying in our times of availability of factual information, specifically the US/UK complicity in the crimes of White Helmets in Syria.
    The presstituting Dalibor Rohac must be put in a position to experience the results of imposing the sizable costs on and more aggressive posture particularly against Russia. Rohac is an arsonist that needs to be constrained -- tarred and feathered would be a good first step.
    Americans do not need this war. Israel does.

    Americans do not need this war. Israel does.

    Fair enough, but tell me then, what War DOES America need? You leave the door open for more War. It appears Lang’s Philosophy is to avoid War with China and/or Russia because War with either would quickly turn Nuclear. I agree with him, it would, therefore it should be a No Go.

    Considering that, since China & Russia are the only Legitimate Foes who can stand up to the American War Machine, any other War would be Pure Unadulterated Bullying. Beating up on Weak Opponents. War for War’s Sake knowing you can never really lose and yet you never really win.

    We see from this that War is now an Arcane Notion. It no longer has any place. Nukes have rendered Real War irrelevant and impossible.

    And yet, Donald Trump recently increased America’s War Budget to $716 billion and is reconfiguring America’s Nuclear Arsenal so that the possibility of using Nukes in Combat becomes more probable. Trump’s American War Budget, if he’s still in office and gets a second term, which is dubious, will approach $1 trillion by 2020 to 2021.

    How do we as a Nation justify this if we claim we’re not a Nation that craves and thrives on War?

    I propose we reduce our Military/War Footprint 80% over the next ten years. I propose that the American Military be entirely reconfigured from top to bottom and that its sole and only purpose is to protect The Homeland from attack. In otherwords, I propose closing all American Military Bases around The World and putting an end, once and for all, to American Imperialism and Foreign Interventionism.

    What say you annamaria? What say you Lang? Are you with me, or are you still in search of a Non-Zionist Inspired Real War which we now know is impossible. The only Real War that’s possible now is a Nuclear War, or Armageddon if you will.

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    I would be all for reducing interventions and the posts designed for that purpose. But not all military aide is for military purposes. The US has one of the largest humanitarian aide programs in the world -- and some of that is military.


    Reducing unnecessary force and improving our footprint is not objectionable on point -- but before agreeing to any such proposals -- one would need specific about what 80% means and looks like.
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  • @Twodees Partain
    The term "neoconservative" is used as a euphemism for "jews", according to Jonah Goldberg. In 2003, that's what Goldberg wrote, and though the link I found for his article at NR is long dead, Justin Raimondo's column from that year stated:

    "Under attack, and on the defensive, the neocons are now claiming that to even use the term "neoconservative" is to commit an anti-Semitic act. As Jonah Goldberg puts it:
    'People who want to denounce the influence of Jews get to use the word 'neocon' when they really mean 'Jewish conservatives' without being held accountable.' "

    http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j032203.html

    So, anyway.....some people use the word 'neocon' as a code word for 'evil jew' (not "jewish conservative"). Though some neocons aren't jews, enough are that using the word as a synonym works out well enough.

    The term “neoconservative” is used as a euphemism for “jews”, according to Jonah Goldberg.

    He should know since Jew are the ones who invented the word and use the word to hide who they really are and why they take the positions they do.

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  • You can agree or not agree with with my postulations, but my expertise is irrelevant. The material I present is what is relevant. Weigh it on its merits, instead of weighing me on my merits. I’m just the Message In A Bottle.

    Stalin had no experience or expertise in War and yet he’s largely responsible for the defeat of Nazi Germany in WWII. Using your logic, we can conclude Stalin, because he had no expertise in War and because he had murdered and exiled most everyone in Russia who did, should have lost the War. The Nazis were at Moscow’s Doorstep and Stalin was all set to flee the Russian Capital to a Spider Hole in the Countryside when at the last minute, or second actually, he decided to remain and tough it out. He had NO EXPERTISE. But he did have Gut Instinct, Organic Street Smarts and incredible Resolve. Just ask Putin, he’ll tell you. Stalin truly was The Man of Steel, yet he was an expert at NOTHING. Thank goodness The Soviet Union wasn’t inundated with your vaunted Experts or else Stalin would have been instructed to flee to the Countryside with his tail between his legs and we’d all be speaking and typing German right now and The Jews would have been eliminated entirely. In that respect, The Jews should worship Stalin more than they do Oscar Schindler. In the end, it was Stalin who saved their asses, not the recalcitrant FDR who had to be brought kicking & screaming into War against Germany.

    Anyway, Lang completely overlooks Vietnam in his Narrative. How are The NeoCons and/or The Zionists responsible for Vietnam? For Korea? For Afghanistan? What about Libya? Was that The Zionists‘ idea too? I agree that AIPAC should be outlawed as all Special Interests and all Lobbying should be outlawed, but The Zionists cannot be blamed for everything just as The NeoCons cannot and I agree with the other Commentators who say that NeoCon for many is shorthand for Zionist.

    Lang can’t point fingers at The Neocons and use the examples throughout American History he’s provided and not also point the finger at himself for his emphatic involvement in Vietnam unless he’s willing to seek Redemption for his Crimes Against Humanity and properly atone as Smedley Butler did and call War out for what it really is, a Racket and a Blood Sacrifice to Moloch because sometimes that’s the only explanation of War that fits.

    There’s a hell of a lot of History he skipped between the Spanish-American War in 1898 and the War referred to euphemistically as Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003. Like, say, The Vietnam War. It’s History, isn’t it? It was about Manifest Destiny, wasn’t it? It was Imperialism, wasn’t it? Oh wait, sorry, The Vietnam War was allegedly about The Truman Doctrine, wasn’t it? Silly me. There is a difference, you know. Semantics mean everything, at least when you’re Splitting Hairs. What they both have in common, Manifest Destiny and The Truman Doctrine, is that they are both Imperialism. The Truman Doctrine feigned to be saving Indigenous Cultures from Communist Cultural Decimation but what it really was doing was saving Indigenous Cultures from Communist Cultural Decimation so that said Indigenous Cultures could ultimately be transformed into Capitalist Cultural Enclaves replete with Capitalist Consumer Culture. Nuance matters, even if the Goal is still the same.

    Of course, in America’s effort to pick up where the Colonial French left off and preserve French Culture in Vietnam with an American Twist, 3 to 5 million Vietnamese were senselessly murdered. Had America minded its own business and kept to itself, those millions of Vietnamese who were senselessly murdered would have lived a full life and another 10 million or so would never have been injured and traumatized. Pat Lang did some of that murdering, injuring & traumatizing. The extent of what he did we’ll never know, but considering he was Special Ops, it’s a Good Bet it was Merciless & Gruesome. In otherwords, Atrocious.

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    Could you stay on point? -- We have got that you are a Spotless Angelic Creature and a Messenger of The Truth.
    , @Miro23

    The Nazis were at Moscow’s Doorstep and Stalin was all set to flee the Russian Capital to a Spider Hole in the Countryside when at the last minute, or second actually, he decided to remain and tough it out.
     
    No he didn't - he had a nervous breakdown.

    Either way, after three days, a small delegation came knocking at his door. Headed by Molotov (pictured to Stalin’s right), Lavrentii Beria(Stalin’s Chief of Secret Police), Kliment Voroshilov (Defence, to Stalin’s left) and Anastas Mikoyan (Foreign Trade), they found Stalin sitting at his desk. He had on his face a look of fear. Mikoyan later wrote, “I have no doubt – he decided we had come to arrest him.” Stalin was looking thinner, haggard and hadn’t changed his clothes.

    “Why have you come?” he asked.

    Molotov stepped forward, “We’re asking you to return to work.”
     
    http://www.historyinanhour.com/2011/07/01/stalins-breakdown/
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  • The anti-American activity by American Enterprise Institute: “Two and a half cheers for the Syria strike:” https://www.aei.org/publication/two-and-a-half-cheers-for-the-syria-strike/
    The author, certain Dalibor Rohac, is an armchair general (zero military experience), who strives for Kagans’ laurels. He needs to be sent to the frontline — please, with his family, to learn about risks of a war. The scoundrel writes, “Of course, the intervention is not without its risks. One blemish is the existing divisions among European countries and even within the EU institutions.” — yes, this is what constitutes “risk” for the criminal warmonger.
    Dalibor Rohac knows who pays for his drivel and he tries hard to not disappoint his ziocon masters: “Another even more pressing problem is that the strikes on Friday do not go anywhere near changing the balance of power on the ground — and much less toward imposing sizable costs on the Iranian and Russian regimes who are effectively controlling the situation. Without a more aggressive posture particularly against Russia — involving additional sanctions against regime officials and oligarchs, asset freezes, and cutting Russian state-owned and state-connected banks from the global financial system — Vladimir Putin has little reason to seriously rethink his complicity in Mr. Assad’s war crimes.”
    He is an open liar — there is nothing “alleged” in his lying in our times of availability of factual information, specifically the US/UK complicity in the crimes of White Helmets in Syria.
    The presstituting Dalibor Rohac must be put in a position to experience the results of imposing the sizable costs on and more aggressive posture particularly against Russia. Rohac is an arsonist that needs to be constrained — tarred and feathered would be a good first step.
    Americans do not need this war. Israel does.

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    Americans do not need this war. Israel does.
     
    Fair enough, but tell me then, what War DOES America need? You leave the door open for more War. It appears Lang's Philosophy is to avoid War with China and/or Russia because War with either would quickly turn Nuclear. I agree with him, it would, therefore it should be a No Go.

    Considering that, since China & Russia are the only Legitimate Foes who can stand up to the American War Machine, any other War would be Pure Unadulterated Bullying. Beating up on Weak Opponents. War for War's Sake knowing you can never really lose and yet you never really win.

    We see from this that War is now an Arcane Notion. It no longer has any place. Nukes have rendered Real War irrelevant and impossible.

    And yet, Donald Trump recently increased America's War Budget to $716 billion and is reconfiguring America's Nuclear Arsenal so that the possibility of using Nukes in Combat becomes more probable. Trump's American War Budget, if he's still in office and gets a second term, which is dubious, will approach $1 trillion by 2020 to 2021.

    How do we as a Nation justify this if we claim we're not a Nation that craves and thrives on War?

    I propose we reduce our Military/War Footprint 80% over the next ten years. I propose that the American Military be entirely reconfigured from top to bottom and that its sole and only purpose is to protect The Homeland from attack. In otherwords, I propose closing all American Military Bases around The World and putting an end, once and for all, to American Imperialism and Foreign Interventionism.

    What say you annamaria? What say you Lang? Are you with me, or are you still in search of a Non-Zionist Inspired Real War which we now know is impossible. The only Real War that's possible now is a Nuclear War, or Armageddon if you will.
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  • @Heros
    I can say with certainty that I am not a war criminal or his pet chihuahua bitch.

    From Lang's Wiki:

    "During the Vietnam War, he served in the Special Forces and Military Intelligence."

    So he clearly volunteered to serve the ZOG USA in their SS and Gestapo equivalents during numerous aggressive wars started by the US on behalf of the same Neocon's he claims to despise. We know Tonkin was a false flag. We know about operation Phoenix, Pentagon papers, secret bombing of Laos and Cambodia, Agent Orange. Lang carries culpability for all of it, at least in terms of the principles of Nuremburg. He should be treated the same way his beloved army treated captured SS officers in May, 1945.

    "From 1992 to 1994, all the U.S. military attachés worldwide reported to him. During that period, he also briefed President George H. W. Bush at the White House, as he had during Operation Desert Storm"

    He actively participated in the birth of Eretz Israel and the destruction of Christianity and genocide of Christians across the Middle East. Wow, this war criminal is one tough act to follow. I think we should all thank him for his service and for protecting "our freedom".

    As far as his blog goes, I gave up commenting there long ago because of his fickle and mean spirited moderating. Any time he starts losing an argument he gets nasty or blocks the commenter. His treatment of Bernhard from MoA over the years, who he often bullies and accuses of being an America hater, has been despicable.

    Lang is clearly not a defender of free speech.

    So what does he stand for? He writes books about Yankees, that is what I think he is. Just another Yankee war criminal willing to murder for his jewish owners.

    BTW, Heros is short for Heros von Borcke. You should read up about him because von Borke, unlike Lang, was an honorable gentleman.

    And how honorable are you by hiding behind the name of von Borcke? Are you a perfect being?
    Patrick Lang does not need your approval or disapproval. He is above it.
    When you write, “He actively participated in the birth of Eretz Israel and the destruction of Christianity,” this is not even laughable — this is a mechanical slander by an ignoramus. Do you know when Israel was established? Do you know Lang’s age?
    He is a real person. He grew up and matured in various respects, including his understanding of American reality. You are not in a position to criticize his integrity and expertise and guts: Remember, you are hiding behind the von Borcke’s name.
    Again, are you an angelic being? Do you have the same hatred for Smedley Darlington Butler, the most decorated American general in the US history? Butler “participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, in Central America and the Caribbean…” — Read about him, “Heron.” Butler was a person of tremendous courage, a true American patriot.
    It would not be surprising to learn that you work for hasbara which cannot forgive Lang’s opposition — the intelligent and articulated opposition, not some hysterical exclamations — to wars for Israel and to zionizaton of the US army and Congress.

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    On Sic Semper Tyrannis, the Colonel has had unkind words to say about General Butler's intellect.
    , @RobinG
    Everyone has their shortcomings. I'm not a follower of Lang's blog, but I hear (from S2C, iirc), that Lang has disparaged Larry Wilkerson for having aided fraudulent war. Pretty hypocritical then, given Lang's own history.

    Now alleged that Lang has accused b. of MoA as anti-American. (((Is that the new anti-Semitism?))) If true, that's pretty pathetic. There are plenty of Lang fans here, but they should admit his blindside.
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  • @annamaria
    Your post is slanderous. Learn first about Colonel Lang' relationships with the US neo- and ziocons.
    If you do not like his blog, nobody forces you to visit it.
    You pretend to be equal to Colonel Lang. Who are you, "Heros?" Share with us your biography so that we all could assess your courage and expertise.

    I can say with certainty that I am not a war criminal or his pet chihuahua bitch.

    From Lang’s Wiki:

    “During the Vietnam War, he served in the Special Forces and Military Intelligence.”

    So he clearly volunteered to serve the ZOG USA in their SS and Gestapo equivalents during numerous aggressive wars started by the US on behalf of the same Neocon’s he claims to despise. We know Tonkin was a false flag. We know about operation Phoenix, Pentagon papers, secret bombing of Laos and Cambodia, Agent Orange. Lang carries culpability for all of it, at least in terms of the principles of Nuremburg. He should be treated the same way his beloved army treated captured SS officers in May, 1945.

    “From 1992 to 1994, all the U.S. military attachés worldwide reported to him. During that period, he also briefed President George H. W. Bush at the White House, as he had during Operation Desert Storm”

    He actively participated in the birth of Eretz Israel and the destruction of Christianity and genocide of Christians across the Middle East. Wow, this war criminal is one tough act to follow. I think we should all thank him for his service and for protecting “our freedom”.

    As far as his blog goes, I gave up commenting there long ago because of his fickle and mean spirited moderating. Any time he starts losing an argument he gets nasty or blocks the commenter. His treatment of Bernhard from MoA over the years, who he often bullies and accuses of being an America hater, has been despicable.

    Lang is clearly not a defender of free speech.

    So what does he stand for? He writes books about Yankees, that is what I think he is. Just another Yankee war criminal willing to murder for his jewish owners.

    BTW, Heros is short for Heros von Borcke. You should read up about him because von Borke, unlike Lang, was an honorable gentleman.

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    And how honorable are you by hiding behind the name of von Borcke? Are you a perfect being?
    Patrick Lang does not need your approval or disapproval. He is above it.
    When you write, "He actively participated in the birth of Eretz Israel and the destruction of Christianity," this is not even laughable -- this is a mechanical slander by an ignoramus. Do you know when Israel was established? Do you know Lang's age?
    He is a real person. He grew up and matured in various respects, including his understanding of American reality. You are not in a position to criticize his integrity and expertise and guts: Remember, you are hiding behind the von Borcke's name.
    Again, are you an angelic being? Do you have the same hatred for Smedley Darlington Butler, the most decorated American general in the US history? Butler "participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, in Central America and the Caribbean..." -- Read about him, "Heron." Butler was a person of tremendous courage, a true American patriot.
    It would not be surprising to learn that you work for hasbara which cannot forgive Lang's opposition -- the intelligent and articulated opposition, not some hysterical exclamations -- to wars for Israel and to zionizaton of the US army and Congress.
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  • @annamaria
    Would you, "Cold N. Holefield," believe that Colonel Lang is a real expert? -- He is, and this is why he has been hated by the ziocons.
    What is your expertise, by the way? -- Deconstruction/reconstruction of The Truth? Thank you very much. The Middle Eastern tragedy needs specialists in the Arab culture. Do you have the expertise? For example, the former Secretary of Defense for Policy Mr. Feith did not like that Colonel Lang "was trained and educated as a specialist in the Middle East by the U.S. Army and served in that region for many years" and that Lang was "the first Professor of the Arabic Language at the United States Military Academy at West Point." Is this kind of expertise too much for your "truths?"
    You are seemingly cannot help yourself but to imply your superiority. You are funny.

    Most informed people here know Col. Lang’s impressive background. There was a time when he was a regular guest on CNN and PBS discussing geopolitical and military issues. I recall decades ago when Lang was lauded on CNN as being one of the very few in the intelligence community to accurately predict Saddam would invade Kuwait. Apparently Lang’s refusal to sell out to the neocons led to him disappearing from media. Sad. But glad he is posting stuff on Unz which is now probably more influential (given the people who secretly read it) than all the networks combined.

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  • @anon
    we are all very, very impressed with your righteousness and with the superior holiness of bombs-aweigh Christianity vs hateful Islam, oh thou elitist of Elite commies.

    so be it
    amen
    and
    chutzpah über alles.

    What silliness.

    Nothing in my comments suggests any hatred of Islam or Muslims. Nor has any comment I have ever made suggested that the adventured since the 9/11 have served the US interests. And my opposition has been costly in more ways than you can possibly imagine.

    I have plenty of flaws that would undermine any righteousness above anyone.

    That is not the point of my comments.

    The comm in the handle is not an abbreviation for some political ideology.

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  • The author of this article misses an important point. Most neocons are also members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), an organization controlled by oil magnates, Wall Street bankers and CEOs of transnational corporations that has been for close to a century advocating the elimination of the US borders, the cancellation of the Constitution and the fusion of all nations into a global government they euphemistically call the New World Order. Moreover, most key CFR members believe that the world is overpopulated and that it is necessary to kill no less than 85 percent of the current population in this planet. Obviously, the easiest way to reach their depopulation goal is by starting an all out nuclear war — which explain why some of them have been frantically buying land and digging nuclear shelters in the Patagonia..

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  • @Anonymous
    Wow! Quite an overreaction to what can be only described as mild, respectful criticism. Maybe you should stay in your own safe-space where no one can russtle your jimmies twice, Patrick. The Net is already full of cowards like you who can't face their own shortcomings without lashing out with displaced anger.

    May I suggest a Zuckenberg page? No "dislike" button available by design.

    “The Net is already full of cowards,” wrote Anonymous[431].
    You don’t have the courage to reveal your real name, Anonymous[431], and yet you, Anonymous[431], attack a person that has demonstrated his valor on multiple occasions.
    It is not impossible that you are a hasbarist spilling your irritation towards Colonel Lang and his blog that has been exposing the zocons’/Israel’s nefarious designs.

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  • @Cold N. Holefield
    The “Expert” Pat Lang (an “Expert“ according to Paul Mulshine and Lang’s Sycophantic Fans & Admirers), who was allegedly rejected by The Swamp yet still has so-called “Sources” in The Swamp that he thinks are credible, has weighed in on The Neocons and their designs on Trump. Obviously, The Truth is much more complex than Lang’s Reduction, but that aside, he neglected to mention something HUGE in his Analysis/Narrative. It’s not a coincidence there’s a substantial Glaring Gaping Hole.

    I agree with him that The Neocons are Scumbags, but this goes well beyond a faction labeled The Neocons. It’s a Diabolical Rabbit Hole that has no bottom and once you enter, extracting yourself quickly becomes your goal versus the reason you journeyed into The Rabbit Hole. The Truth, in its entirety at least, is that elusive, and I’ve yet to come across any Analysis or Narrative that Nails It and Lang’s Narrative is no exception.

    All The Light You Cannot See

    Would you, “Cold N. Holefield,” believe that Colonel Lang is a real expert? — He is, and this is why he has been hated by the ziocons.
    What is your expertise, by the way? — Deconstruction/reconstruction of The Truth? Thank you very much. The Middle Eastern tragedy needs specialists in the Arab culture. Do you have the expertise? For example, the former Secretary of Defense for Policy Mr. Feith did not like that Colonel Lang “was trained and educated as a specialist in the Middle East by the U.S. Army and served in that region for many years” and that Lang was “the first Professor of the Arabic Language at the United States Military Academy at West Point.” Is this kind of expertise too much for your “truths?”
    You are seemingly cannot help yourself but to imply your superiority. You are funny.

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    Most informed people here know Col. Lang’s impressive background. There was a time when he was a regular guest on CNN and PBS discussing geopolitical and military issues. I recall decades ago when Lang was lauded on CNN as being one of the very few in the intelligence community to accurately predict Saddam would invade Kuwait. Apparently Lang’s refusal to sell out to the neocons led to him disappearing from media. Sad. But glad he is posting stuff on Unz which is now probably more influential (given the people who secretly read it) than all the networks combined.
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  • The term “neoconservative” is used as a euphemism for “jews”, according to Jonah Goldberg. In 2003, that’s what Goldberg wrote, and though the link I found for his article at NR is long dead, Justin Raimondo’s column from that year stated:

    “Under attack, and on the defensive, the neocons are now claiming that to even use the term “neoconservative” is to commit an anti-Semitic act. As Jonah Goldberg puts it:
    ‘People who want to denounce the influence of Jews get to use the word ‘neocon’ when they really mean ‘Jewish conservatives’ without being held accountable.’ ”

    http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j032203.html

    So, anyway…..some people use the word ‘neocon’ as a code word for ‘evil jew’ (not “jewish conservative”). Though some neocons aren’t jews, enough are that using the word as a synonym works out well enough.

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    The term “neoconservative” is used as a euphemism for “jews”, according to Jonah Goldberg.
     
    He should know since Jew are the ones who invented the word and use the word to hide who they really are and why they take the positions they do.
    , @iffen
    The term “neoconservative” is used as a euphemism for “jews”, according to Jonah Goldberg.

    My God, you found a Jew who said (wrote) blah, blah. Discussion over, no more comments. No need for anyone else to think, read or write.
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  • @Heros
    "You are more of a simpleton than I had thought. You should stay off my blog."

    Typical Pat Lang, not satisfied with his wishy washy bulling and banning behavior on his own blog, he carries it over to Unz.

    The real reason Lang cannot seem to be able to connect the dots and acknowledge the corrosive and even genocidal effects of this racial supremacist religion cum race is the same reason none of his ilk will even bother to take a deep look at 9/11. It is called culpability.

    For if the Neocons or Zionists, most of us don't care to make a distinction because they are serving the same masters, are guilty of half of the crimes that Lang openly admits, then Lang is as guilty as any "Nazi" hung after Nuremburg.

    So like the vast majority of Americans, his logic and thinking are befuddled with cognitive dissonance. He can accept contradictions like Good War and Hiroshima. Or ignore and cover up US actions in Vietnam because it was the most important event in his and his war-buddies lifes.

    The important question, is why is he allowed by ZOG to make the truth about Israel posts that he does. The answer is that he always toes their red line. He calls our owners the "BORG" instead of calling them "ZOG". He always stays away from evidence about how Zionists planned WWII through things like embargo's, ethnic cleansing of Germans in Poland and Czechoslovakia, or that the Zionists had been preparing the "Holocaust" for decades.

    In short, his blog, and this post, are limited hangouts. Sure, he has some interesting insights and inside information. So does Ben Shapiro or Jason Goodman, but you will never find a path to the truth by reading their drivel.

    Your post is slanderous. Learn first about Colonel Lang’ relationships with the US neo- and ziocons.
    If you do not like his blog, nobody forces you to visit it.
    You pretend to be equal to Colonel Lang. Who are you, “Heros?” Share with us your biography so that we all could assess your courage and expertise.

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    I can say with certainty that I am not a war criminal or his pet chihuahua bitch.

    From Lang's Wiki:

    "During the Vietnam War, he served in the Special Forces and Military Intelligence."

    So he clearly volunteered to serve the ZOG USA in their SS and Gestapo equivalents during numerous aggressive wars started by the US on behalf of the same Neocon's he claims to despise. We know Tonkin was a false flag. We know about operation Phoenix, Pentagon papers, secret bombing of Laos and Cambodia, Agent Orange. Lang carries culpability for all of it, at least in terms of the principles of Nuremburg. He should be treated the same way his beloved army treated captured SS officers in May, 1945.

    "From 1992 to 1994, all the U.S. military attachés worldwide reported to him. During that period, he also briefed President George H. W. Bush at the White House, as he had during Operation Desert Storm"

    He actively participated in the birth of Eretz Israel and the destruction of Christianity and genocide of Christians across the Middle East. Wow, this war criminal is one tough act to follow. I think we should all thank him for his service and for protecting "our freedom".

    As far as his blog goes, I gave up commenting there long ago because of his fickle and mean spirited moderating. Any time he starts losing an argument he gets nasty or blocks the commenter. His treatment of Bernhard from MoA over the years, who he often bullies and accuses of being an America hater, has been despicable.

    Lang is clearly not a defender of free speech.

    So what does he stand for? He writes books about Yankees, that is what I think he is. Just another Yankee war criminal willing to murder for his jewish owners.

    BTW, Heros is short for Heros von Borcke. You should read up about him because von Borke, unlike Lang, was an honorable gentleman.

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  • we are all very, very impressed with your righteousness and with the superior holiness of bombs-aweigh Christianity vs hateful Islam, oh thou elitist of Elite commies.

    so be it
    amen
    and
    chutzpah über alles.

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    What silliness.


    Nothing in my comments suggests any hatred of Islam or Muslims. Nor has any comment I have ever made suggested that the adventured since the 9/11 have served the US interests. And my opposition has been costly in more ways than you can possibly imagine.


    I have plenty of flaws that would undermine any righteousness above anyone.


    That is not the point of my comments.


    The comm in the handle is not an abbreviation for some political ideology.
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  • @Keith Harbaugh
    Lang's 2004 article “Drinking the Kool-Aid” gives an inside view on how professional Mid-East analysts were shoved aside in favor of ideologues.
    A much lengthier analysis, which includes the broader political perspective, is the 2008 book:
    The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel by Stephen J. Sniegoski
    which was reviewed right here at unz.com by Paul Gottfried:
    http://www.unz.com/article/the-transparent-cabal/
    (although a Google search on "the transparent cabal paul gottfried" (but without the quotation marks) does not find that URL on its first three pages of results, which I find surprising -- is Google suppressing references to unz.com?)
    and by one of Col. Lang's acquaintances, Karen Kwiatkowski, here:
    http://www.independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_14_03_08_kwiatkowski.pdf

    A much lengthier analysis, which includes the broader political perspective, is the 2008 book:
    The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel by Stephen J. Sniegoski

    https://www.amazon.com/Transparent-Cabal-Neoconservative-National-Interest/dp/1932528172/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1524260066&sr=1-1&keywords=transparent+cabal%2C+sniegoski

    I read this in 2010 and was very impressed. It starts with a 1996 paper entitled “A Clean Break, A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” published by an Israeli think tank, the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies.

    The principal idea was to foment war in the Middle East and consequently destabilize Israel’s enemies. The policy was adopted by the Israeli pro-settler right wing and Jewish activists in and around the Clinton and Bush administrations such as Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and David Wurmser (who all helped produce the original document).

    They identified as targets Iraq, Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia (yes, Saudi Arabia) and were handed a golden opportunity after the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Centre. Iraq was falsely presented as an Al Qaeda base and the media planted with stories about an imminent attack on the United States using WMD.

    Despite the CIA knowing all along that the WMD didn’t exist, the US still invaded Iraq and the story was quietly and unbelievably changed to “Building Democracy”.

    Highly recommended.

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  • @anonymous

    Muslim faith precludes such a system
     
    The "greatest" democracy in the world elected a pathetic loser degenerate called Trump... who is not really in charge, anyway.

    The biggest democracy in the world gave power to an evil hindu-nationalist mass murdering degenerate, who couldn't even bring himself to condemn the rape\torture\murder of an 8yr old... simply because she was from a minority community, and the rapists where of his ilk.

    Democracy is too highly overrated.

    The \re are plenty of reasons to criticize Pres trump. I did before the campaign , during the campaign and i do so now. But of all the candidates his policies most fit with my own on policy.

    On the issues or integrity, consistency, faith, what constitutes a moral lifestyle — It was clear we had differences. But I voted on the policies on which we agreed. There was no question that he was a situational leadership — and that meant taking some risks. I prefer a style that is as straight forward as possible, one that doesn’t require 9 level deep chess — a game both sides are playing and which is turning the US into 19th Century Europe land of personal intrigue — a mess for the republic. A land in which the country becomes solely the playground of the elites and the rest of play along as though their game is ours.

    President Trump has not made this arena. But his presence has exposed the world of politics and finance for the naked self serving bastion that it is. The republic is not dead, but it is in danger. I am not even sure that the elites are intentionally threatening its existence. But the distance between their realities and the rest of us are increasingly becoming so vast, that neither they or I know the difference. Eventually, neither government spending nor mega companies tossing employment to the general public will be not be enough to assuage the angst. And while he may be playing ball — what exists, this environment may reflect a Mr. Trump, but it is not of his making. What I did not expect was that he would be as weak as he appears to be. I hope I am wrong, but thus far inspite of Damocles’s sword he does not appear to be as strong or as straight forward as i had hoped.

    No, the Muslim faith doesn’t preclude, prevent or suppress such a system. It’s the result of human machinations and if history tells us anything it’s the Muslim’s are loaded with intrigue, lies, backstabbing, murder, political and personal ambitions, as well as religious agendas many of which were and in conflict with each other. The battles in Muslim, between Sunnis and Shia, and variations of the faith that have and continue bloody the deserts, and waters in the Middle East existed long before colonialism and will continue to foster themselves in the same.

    Democracy is highly over rated as a guaranteed solution — and it certainly is not a solution for every society

    But neither democracy nor Islam are derived from perfect beings . . . but I love my country with all its ills. And while, it is full of liars, and systems that are full of errs and has it in it people who will engage in all manner of filth to destroy the lives of others on the whims of their own cowardice. I have only one answer – have and operate with integrity regardless of what everyone does.

    Integrity matters and that is a walk no one can for me save Christ. Integrity matters so Christ before Mohammed any day of the week, month or year. And if integrity means poverty then so be it. If integrity means singleness so be it. If integrity means not jumping on the Israeli band wagon that contradicts Christ —

    so be it.

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  • Over at Lang’s blog concering comments here:

    “As for the seizure of resources notion, show me where”

    You could start here:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/30/usaid-in-central-africa/

    And then, Lang says:

    “The American Indian? What? … The land itself? Yes we took that from the Indian and I am unapologetic about that. It was them or us”

    Well, it’s been a bit more than that, you could have a look at Manifest Destiny 2.0…

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/05/26/counterfeit-coin/

    …giving particular attention to the speech of Smedley Butler:

    For those who prefer the satire:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/24/essay-on-native-american-humor/

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  • Lang’s 2004 article “Drinking the Kool-Aid” gives an inside view on how professional Mid-East analysts were shoved aside in favor of ideologues.
    A much lengthier analysis, which includes the broader political perspective, is the 2008 book:
    The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel by Stephen J. Sniegoski
    which was reviewed right here at unz.com by Paul Gottfried:

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-transparent-cabal/

    (although a Google search on “the transparent cabal paul gottfried” (but without the quotation marks) does not find that URL on its first three pages of results, which I find surprising — is Google suppressing references to unz.com?)
    and by one of Col. Lang’s acquaintances, Karen Kwiatkowski, here:

    http://www.independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_14_03_08_kwiatkowski.pdf

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    A much lengthier analysis, which includes the broader political perspective, is the 2008 book:
    The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel by Stephen J. Sniegoski
     
    https://www.amazon.com/Transparent-Cabal-Neoconservative-National-Interest/dp/1932528172/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1524260066&sr=1-1&keywords=transparent+cabal%2C+sniegoski

    I read this in 2010 and was very impressed. It starts with a 1996 paper entitled "A Clean Break, A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" published by an Israeli think tank, the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies.

    The principal idea was to foment war in the Middle East and consequently destabilize Israel's enemies. The policy was adopted by the Israeli pro-settler right wing and Jewish activists in and around the Clinton and Bush administrations such as Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and David Wurmser (who all helped produce the original document).

    They identified as targets Iraq, Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia (yes, Saudi Arabia) and were handed a golden opportunity after the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Centre. Iraq was falsely presented as an Al Qaeda base and the media planted with stories about an imminent attack on the United States using WMD.

    Despite the CIA knowing all along that the WMD didn't exist, the US still invaded Iraq and the story was quietly and unbelievably changed to "Building Democracy".

    Highly recommended.
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  • Are these categories meant to be mutually exclusive? Because that might put some of us in a bit of a spot

    I was going to ask the same thing, but then I remembered that I read up on the use of and/or recently: “or” means “and/or,” basically.

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  • @Thirdeye

    In context that’s exactly what they are; the regime would like to do the exact same thing to SW Asia, but it won’t work, because Japanese and Germans aren’t Arabs
     
    It may be that the cases of Germany and Japan - highly ordered, cohesive, rules-based societies - are among the rare exceptions to the rule on unintended consequences of regime change. And in both cases regime change followed catastrophic military defeats with multiple millions of deaths and was followed by massive infusions of aid.

    Even Germany isn't such a great case for successful regime change when you look at the results of their 1918 defeat: years of political instability under a weak government until the rise of the Nazis.

    Japan retained their Emperor, which lent authority to their new government.

    Lastly, any regime change effort in a society with the historical memory of colonial domination is carrying some serious baggage.

    Agreed.

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  • @Jack Hanson
    Holy shit Svigor, you're not arguing against Lot here. Put your monomania to rest. Jews under the bed is just as annoying as Nazis under the bed.

    I’m not arguing against anyone here. I’m arguing against an argument. It gets old, hearing it. Way past old.

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  • Are you an aged eccentric like me, a professor or a shut in with nothing better to do than be nasty mere?

    Cogent!

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  • Does DONALD TRUMP Have “CABBAGE For BRAINS?”

    Ron Paul Liberty Report

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  • Anonymous[431] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick Lang
    Ah, you want me to propagandize for your preferred positions. You want me to scream every day that the JEWS did it. You are supposed to be able to read between the lines and understan the truth of things. You are more of sa simpleton than I had thought. You should stay off my blog.

    Wow! Quite an overreaction to what can be only described as mild, respectful criticism. Maybe you should stay in your own safe-space where no one can russtle your jimmies twice, Patrick. The Net is already full of cowards like you who can’t face their own shortcomings without lashing out with displaced anger.

    May I suggest a Zuckenberg page? No “dislike” button available by design.

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    "The Net is already full of cowards," wrote Anonymous[431].
    You don't have the courage to reveal your real name, Anonymous[431], and yet you, Anonymous[431], attack a person that has demonstrated his valor on multiple occasions.
    It is not impossible that you are a hasbarist spilling your irritation towards Colonel Lang and his blog that has been exposing the zocons'/Israel's nefarious designs.
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  • @iffen
    Zionism is just about the most complex -ism on the planet.

    Not according to most anti-Semites.

    What’s so complicated about it? Its fundamentally an ideology that suggests Jews belong in Israel. The implications might be complex for some people. Varies forces involving the different aspects exist . For some reason some people just can’t believe that some Zionists love bad things to happen to Jews in diaspora because it meets those ends. Most people however are not surprised that Jews will attack and defend themselves to that end in Israel.

    all it takes is a billionaire or a multimillionaire to add dynamics to “Zionism”, like Sheldon Anderson for example. All I know is there is a lot of pathology related to it. Its an old , Levantine , Semitic religion with lots of disposable wealth behind it. It would be a miracle for such a thing to be remotely wholesome. It make a Gothic period Byzantine court look like an actual square deal Sam.

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  • @Wally
    But who are the "Neo-Cons"?
    Who is their loyalty to?

    www.codoh.com

    Some are no doubt loyal to the US. Heirloom tomatoes don’t know who they are. The grower does. All one needs to do is put them there and have them do what they do. The beneficiaries are the weapons industry, Zionists , and carpet baggers. They tend the neocon gardens.

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  • The “Expert” Pat Lang (an “Expert“ according to Paul Mulshine and Lang’s Sycophantic Fans & Admirers), who was allegedly rejected by The Swamp yet still has so-called “Sources” in The Swamp that he thinks are credible, has weighed in on The Neocons and their designs on Trump. Obviously, The Truth is much more complex than Lang’s Reduction, but that aside, he neglected to mention something HUGE in his Analysis/Narrative. It’s not a coincidence there’s a substantial Glaring Gaping Hole.

    I agree with him that The Neocons are Scumbags, but this goes well beyond a faction labeled The Neocons. It’s a Diabolical Rabbit Hole that has no bottom and once you enter, extracting yourself quickly becomes your goal versus the reason you journeyed into The Rabbit Hole. The Truth, in its entirety at least, is that elusive, and I’ve yet to come across any Analysis or Narrative that Nails It and Lang’s Narrative is no exception.

    All The Light You Cannot See

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Would you, "Cold N. Holefield," believe that Colonel Lang is a real expert? -- He is, and this is why he has been hated by the ziocons.
    What is your expertise, by the way? -- Deconstruction/reconstruction of The Truth? Thank you very much. The Middle Eastern tragedy needs specialists in the Arab culture. Do you have the expertise? For example, the former Secretary of Defense for Policy Mr. Feith did not like that Colonel Lang "was trained and educated as a specialist in the Middle East by the U.S. Army and served in that region for many years" and that Lang was "the first Professor of the Arabic Language at the United States Military Academy at West Point." Is this kind of expertise too much for your "truths?"
    You are seemingly cannot help yourself but to imply your superiority. You are funny.
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  • @JerseyJeffersonian
    Svigor,

    It would be really nice if it were possible to "put this tired, tattered old straw man to bed", but it is not likely to happen. The radical Zionists immediately use criticism of Israel to conflate criticism of Zionism with anti-Semitism. This is made far easier for them by the confusion around "Jewishness" that is deliberately (and conveniently, for their purposes) cultivated; is being a Jew a racial thing, a religious thing, a cultural thing regardless of the individual Jew's adherence to and practice of the tenets of Judaism? This ambiguity opens the door for claims that criticisms of the excesses of radical Zionism are at root leveled against all Jews regardless of their actual beliefs, political behaviors, and their self-perception regarding their roles in the life of the nation. Of course, true anti-Semites do in fact hold all Jews responsible for the actions of rabid Zionists, so everybody "wins".

    Except for real flesh and blood Jews, who are individuals with their own agency. My oldest friend is a Jew, I work with Jews, I make classical music with Jews. So I will never buy the blanket condemnation of Jews qua Jews. Do I wish that more American Jews would distance themselves from and be more critical of the "professional Jews" who are in leadership roles at radical Zionist organizations? Yes, but I have some sympathy for why this does not happen. As a historically disparaged minority, albeit with some reasons for that status, the reluctance is self-enforcing; there is a disincentive to talk smack on your "community" for fear of the ostracism, and reputational and career damage that might follow (there is no reasoning with one-issue fanatics, after all).

    Look at how blacks who lodge criticism of the behaviors of some in their community make out. Not too well, even when the criticisms are justified, and the ills perpetuated by these criticized behaviors work to the detriment not only of individual blacks, but also to the perception of blacks in general in the wider society.

    So I think that Col. Lang is justified in his refusal to tar all Jews with the sins and excesses of some portion of that community. This seems to me to be intellectually and morally correct. Certainly it serves to help put the criticisms of NeoConservatism out there while yet insulating him to a degree from the blanket charges of anti-Semitism. And indeed, the NeoCons are not strictly radical Zionists, and some among them have other motivations behind their actions.

    ” There is a disincentive to talk “smack” on your own community”

    Well Jackie Mason doesnt’t worry too much about ostracism or career damage, being the staunch DT fan he is.
    This is a tremendously complex issue with push and pull in every direction.

    I can’t imagine America without George Gershwin or Hammerstein, or Kern, or Arlen (Over the rainbow) or the all of the other marvelous Jewish songwriters, America without “Oklahoma” or “South Pacific” or “Showboat”, would be much poorer.

    Then I can vividly recall the Hebrew family Doctor in my Detroit neighborhood as a kid, a wonderfully kind-hearted guy, who treated the poor goyim for free. He had been on the front lines in the war, and witnessed the most horrid visions one can humanly imagine, and came home as an enlightened being.

    Then there was the Jewish guy who took over the Shell station where I, as a teen, was running my butt off after school til midnight. He put his wife on the cash register, at that time wierd beyond belief, and when it came time for him to pay me my first week’s wages : Forty bucks, he handed me ten Dollars with a fuck you expression on his kisser, and of course I quit on the spot.

    Then there was my Army buddy in Germany, Marx, a millionaire’s son draftee, who proudly showed me his LA wedding photos, complete with Rabbi, Candelabra and Beenies. He waited three months for the first letter from his new wife , which turned out to be a “dear John”. We sat in a dingy bar, owner just happened to be a Jew, and he put a bottle of whisky on the table which we emptied. My friend, broken-hearted, never mentioned her again until his time was up.

    Then there was my Hebrew buddy Solomon, who fell in love with a German girl and wanted to bring her to the states as his bride. I can still see him standing in the door to my room reading the letter from his parents stating that if he married a german girl, this was 1960 and the war was still fresh on everyone’s mind, he did not have to come home.
    They found him and the girl, dead, in his new car in the woods close to the base, with a hose from the exaust pipe, and they parked the car in a warehouse on base, and there it sat until was discharged.

    Then there was my aging poker buddy Sol, who voted, to my incredible suprise and dismay , for BC, because he BC, had promised free prescription drugs to seniors.

    Anyway this is most definitely a complex subject, with unlimited pro and cons, and no actual resolutions or solutions to be found.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  • @anonymous
    Can our side develop a special "Doxing" team to publish the personal information of where the worst Zio Neoconservative lying war mongers live, hang out, play golf.

    I want to confront John Bolton, Karl Rove, David Frum on the 10th T of some posh golf course. I will be with a one legged "wounded warrior" from the US war for "Freedom and Democracy" in Iraq.

    Or maybe try to do an improvised chemical weapons attack some Neo Con's vacation home in the Hamptons - or just dunk the punks underwater in a chlorine treated swimming pool in Georgetown.

    We have to make this personal and personally punish the vile, evil, lying Neo Conservative, Zionist, Cuckservative war mongers that have slaughtered hundreds of thousands and set off a migrant invasion that will overwhelm Western Europe, UK the West.

    But, that's the whole point isn't it:

    Invade the world for Israel and the Saudi Sunni Islamist royals (ISIS)
    Invite the world - mass migration invasions of North Africans, Sub Sahara Black Africans, Pakistani/Afhan mountain rapists, throat cutters
    In Hoc to the Federal Reserve Banking cartel, China to pay for all this sh**

    And then the same tribe's Media Mafia gets to distract our proles with endless TV shows like "Maury"

    "Jamal - you ARE the father".

    But, some good news in Central Europe and Russia. Mother Russia is looking rather good I must say.

    Can our side develop a special “Doxing” team to publish the personal information of where the worst Zio Neoconservative lying war mongers live, hang out, play golf.

    You can find some info on that in ‘social columns’ in papers like the WP, NYT, LA Times and in magazines like Vanity Fair, Town and Country, Esquire, GQ and etc..
    I did that once out of curiosity and found lots of stuff about their social haunts , homes, parties they were giving or attending , travel plans and so forth.

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    ha ha ha ha ha!!!

    That's hilarious, RonaldThomasWest!!

    Thanks for demonstrating what low regard knuckle-draggers hold for patriotism, fulfillment of military duty and corp d'sprit; you win the medal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFH8m-_Nd2I
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  • anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    there are plenty of interventionists on the press for democracy and "capitalism" as cause for stabilizing regions that are not Jews or all that active in Zionists policies.

    The desire to regime change in North Korea and parts of Africa are not all that beneficial to Zionist ambitions. I am not all convinced that Israel is a democracy. But it's clear that neither Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan are going to raving democratic capitalist states - every. Muslim faith precludes such a system. even if said states did embrace democracy -- there is no evidence and would in all likelihood not reflect what exists in the US. Because what exists in the US is founded on a particular history and environment and inter-relational dynamics.

    The grand narrative they advance would be attractive as policy even minus the existence of Israel.


    --- Cutting off nonsense at the pass: I do think Israel has a right to exist. --

    Muslim faith precludes such a system

    The “greatest” democracy in the world elected a pathetic loser degenerate called Trump… who is not really in charge, anyway.

    The biggest democracy in the world gave power to an evil hindu-nationalist mass murdering degenerate, who couldn’t even bring himself to condemn the rape\torture\murder of an 8yr old… simply because she was from a minority community, and the rapists where of his ilk.

    Democracy is too highly overrated.

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    The \re are plenty of reasons to criticize Pres trump. I did before the campaign , during the campaign and i do so now. But of all the candidates his policies most fit with my own on policy.

    On the issues or integrity, consistency, faith, what constitutes a moral lifestyle --- It was clear we had differences. But I voted on the policies on which we agreed. There was no question that he was a situational leadership --- and that meant taking some risks. I prefer a style that is as straight forward as possible, one that doesn't require 9 level deep chess -- a game both sides are playing and which is turning the US into 19th Century Europe land of personal intrigue -- a mess for the republic. A land in which the country becomes solely the playground of the elites and the rest of play along as though their game is ours.

    President Trump has not made this arena. But his presence has exposed the world of politics and finance for the naked self serving bastion that it is. The republic is not dead, but it is in danger. I am not even sure that the elites are intentionally threatening its existence. But the distance between their realities and the rest of us are increasingly becoming so vast, that neither they or I know the difference. Eventually, neither government spending nor mega companies tossing employment to the general public will be not be enough to assuage the angst. And while he may be playing ball -- what exists, this environment may reflect a Mr. Trump, but it is not of his making. What I did not expect was that he would be as weak as he appears to be. I hope I am wrong, but thus far inspite of Damocles's sword he does not appear to be as strong or as straight forward as i had hoped.

    No, the Muslim faith doesn't preclude, prevent or suppress such a system. It's the result of human machinations and if history tells us anything it's the Muslim's are loaded with intrigue, lies, backstabbing, murder, political and personal ambitions, as well as religious agendas many of which were and in conflict with each other. The battles in Muslim, between Sunnis and Shia, and variations of the faith that have and continue bloody the deserts, and waters in the Middle East existed long before colonialism and will continue to foster themselves in the same.

    Democracy is highly over rated as a guaranteed solution -- and it certainly is not a solution for every society

    But neither democracy nor Islam are derived from perfect beings . . . but I love my country with all its ills. And while, it is full of liars, and systems that are full of errs and has it in it people who will engage in all manner of filth to destroy the lives of others on the whims of their own cowardice. I have only one answer - have and operate with integrity regardless of what everyone does.

    Integrity matters and that is a walk no one can for me save Christ. Integrity matters so Christ before Mohammed any day of the week, month or year. And if integrity means poverty then so be it. If integrity means singleness so be it. If integrity means not jumping on the Israeli band wagon that contradicts Christ ---

    so be it.

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  • “We have to make this personal and personally punish the vile, evil, lying Neo Conservative, Zionist, Cuckservative war mongers that have slaughtered hundreds of thousands and set off a migrant invasion that will overwhelm Western Europe, UK the West.”
    — Agree.
    The comment section on Saker: http://thesaker.is/syrian-war-report-april-19-2018-journalists-find-boy-filmed-in-staged-video-of-chemical-attack-in-douma/
    _smr on April 20, 2018 · at 3:40 am UTC
    “Last weekend’s disastrous – almost comical – military failure by Zion’s brightest to derail Syria’s campaign to chase the Jewish Mafia’s mercenaries, jihadis and genociders out of the country, seems to have utterly demoralized the thugs, thieves and killers. Reconciliations, green buses, handing in weapons to the Syrian authorities all over the place…”
    – Do the “Neo Conservative, Zionist, Cuckservative war mongers” understand that they have been “re-arranging” a world for their children and grandchildren to live? Guess, until the progeny of Bush, Cheney, Blair, Sarkozy, Wolfowitz, Kristol, Kagans and other war mongers and war-profiteers begin to feel the heat, their criminal elders would remain content with their crimes against humanity.
    There should be initiated a process of stripping the war profiteers of all assets and directing the funds towards the reconstruction of the destroyed Middle Eastern countries. No bloody money for the progeny of the “Neo Conservative, Zionist, Cuckservative war mongers.”

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  • @Svigor
    It's just so tired. OMG IKAGO! NAJALT! Gee, thanks so much, I never thought of that before you came along and told me...

    Holy shit Svigor, you’re not arguing against Lot here. Put your monomania to rest. Jews under the bed is just as annoying as Nazis under the bed.

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    • Replies: @Svigor
    I'm not arguing against anyone here. I'm arguing against an argument. It gets old, hearing it. Way past old.
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