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    In the light of the conflicts in Ukraine and Syria, there has been much talk about the clouding of US-Russian relations. Some voices in the Internet’s alternative media sections have conjured the possibility that these conflicts might lead to a new major war, while social networks like Twitter saw the usage of the hashtags #WorldWarIII...
  • […] Source: The Second Cold War – The Unz Review […]

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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Good article. I take it by the description that the author is a graduate student and thus relatively young. If so then they’re starting out quite clear-eyed and objective, things that usually take years of living to acquire.
    The US is an aggressive and expansionist empire and has been so since it consolidated itself continentally, had it’s Civil War, dealt with the internal problem of the Indian population, and then embarked on foreign acquisitions starting with the Spanish-American war where it seized Spanish possessions and inserted itself into Asia via the Philippines. It’s pretty much been on the march since then, always probing for weakness and opportunity to move in. It’s somewhat analogous to the Austro-Hungarian empire, outwardly expansionist even as the stitches holding the seams together started to fray and weaken. They started off boldly but no one in 1914 could foresee what 1918 would look like. Unfortunately the US seems to have some inner momentum driving it thus which doesn’t seem as if it’s path could be altered, at least not in the short run. Many people question how much power the president actually has in being able to effect a change of course. Could be he has less than popularly supposed.
    Most people agree the US is deteriorating internally. A quick and short read would be Sir John Glubb’s ” The Fate of Empires and Search for Survival”, available free on the internet. There’s many points of similarity, it’ll have a familiar ring to it.

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    Seymour Hersh absolutely demonstrated that the Sarin attack in Ghouta was a false flag operation, and that the chemical composition of the gas did not match that stockpiled by Syria when analyzed by the UK defense laboratory Porton Down.

    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

    It was such a ho-hum effort; the bored, deadpan US officials barely seemed to have convinced themselves. You don’t need an ingenious cloak-and-dagger operation when no one’s paying attention and no one cares.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Actually, in many ways this is a Hot War, not a Cold one…

    Look at the new pattern. The State Dept underwrites and supports a neo-fascist coup on Russia’s border in Kiev. Putin responds by seizing Crimea and abetting the rebellion in the Donbass Region. Sanctions are enforced against Russia, Putin openly provides military assistance to Syria. Now today Putin orders immediate retaliation against any attacks against the Russian military. Meanwhile the US, UK, France and Germany begin military actions in the Syrian Theater, ultimately threatening partition.. Turkey occupies part of Iraq… Iraq requests Russian aid… China weighs in on the Syrian situation.

    This is definitely a path towards escalation, with a genuine chance of military conflict between the Russian/ Iranian/ Syrian forces and NATO forces. That’s HOT… the opposite of Cold War miceo-maneuvers.

    In China, following the US Pivot , and support for Tibetan and Uighur independence, China claims the S. China Sea and starts building island reefs. The US crosses over international boundaries surrounding these islands… again HOT WAR escalation. ..

    with a chance any of these rising conflicts could escalate into a REALLY HOT thermonuclear confrontation, just the way the Cuban Missile did…

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  • @Lepanto
    "Of the Marxist ideology only insular traces remain today..." You forgot to add the anti-white efforts on college campuses today. These are real and ever present and brush against the grain of Russian and Chinese nationalist efforts as well as a coherent American identity that transcends racial divides including HBD. Richard Rorty's essay on the "Unpatriotic Academy" is always worth re-reading: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/13/opinion/the-unpatriotic-academy.html

    Those aren’t Marxist. “Cultural Marxism” is a complete misnomer. Dividing the working classes along ethnic lines keeps them impotent. It is a ruling class strategy.

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  • @Ronald Thomas West

    A good president is one who can lie and be believed.
     
    No, that's merely an accomplished liar, it doesn't necessarily make a good president. Maybe you're conflating 'good' with 'effective'

    Does Obama's lies about the USA upholding 'the rule of law' even as he has been much more effective at dismantling (supposedly constitutionally protected) American civil liberties than Bush Jr's administration, make him a good president? No, it simply makes him effective at dismantling civil liberties, example given.

    Then, Obamacare made #1 on Moyer's lies list, ahead of Bush & Cheney:

    http://billmoyers.com/content/10-big-fat-lies-and-the-liars-who-told-them/2/

    Wasn't industry right there to shepherd the process of health care 'reform'? You bet they were. Did Obama's lies on healthcare reform make Obama a good president? No, it made him an effective tool for the health industry.

    For those who prefer the satire:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/08/22/demons-anonymous/

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  • @Drapetomaniac
    A good president is one who can lie and be believed.

    A good president is one who can lie and be believed.

    No, that’s merely an accomplished liar, it doesn’t necessarily make a good president. Maybe you’re conflating ‘good’ with ‘effective’

    Does Obama’s lies about the USA upholding ‘the rule of law’ even as he has been much more effective at dismantling (supposedly constitutionally protected) American civil liberties than Bush Jr’s administration, make him a good president? No, it simply makes him effective at dismantling civil liberties, example given.

    Then, Obamacare made #1 on Moyer’s lies list, ahead of Bush & Cheney:

    http://billmoyers.com/content/10-big-fat-lies-and-the-liars-who-told-them/2/

    Wasn’t industry right there to shepherd the process of health care ‘reform’? You bet they were. Did Obama’s lies on healthcare reform make Obama a good president? No, it made him an effective tool for the health industry.

    For those who prefer the satire:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/08/22/demons-anonymous/

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    ps, I just remembered the better parody:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/11/16/obamas-speech-at-queensland/

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  • @Ronald Thomas West

    When Mr. Obama asserted that “this is not some superpower chessboard contest,” he therefore either told a lie or he demonstrated his government’s utter cluelessness with regard to the actual situation and consequences of their actions in Ukraine, Syria, the South Chinese Sea, and other hotspots of the second Cold War
     
    Obama is very comfortable with lying. Or better said, Obama is an accomplished liar. 'Grand Chessboard' author Brzezinski is still Obama's man on the inside:

    Brzezinski ... in fact acted as the lead political advisor on foreign affairs to President Obama during his 2008 campaign and is still unofficially advising him on foreign policy today

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/zbigniew-brzezinski-the-man-behind-obamas-foreign-policy/21369/
     
    Good overall assessment. One improvement would be to point out a recent development with revelations it had been Erdogan's people (Turkey) carried out the 2013 Ghouta sarin gas attack in Syria (blamed on Assad) that killed well over 1,000 ordinary Syrians:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/12/07/send-a-letter/

    ^

    A good president is one who can lie and be believed.

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    A good president is one who can lie and be believed.
     
    No, that's merely an accomplished liar, it doesn't necessarily make a good president. Maybe you're conflating 'good' with 'effective'

    Does Obama's lies about the USA upholding 'the rule of law' even as he has been much more effective at dismantling (supposedly constitutionally protected) American civil liberties than Bush Jr's administration, make him a good president? No, it simply makes him effective at dismantling civil liberties, example given.

    Then, Obamacare made #1 on Moyer's lies list, ahead of Bush & Cheney:

    http://billmoyers.com/content/10-big-fat-lies-and-the-liars-who-told-them/2/

    Wasn't industry right there to shepherd the process of health care 'reform'? You bet they were. Did Obama's lies on healthcare reform make Obama a good president? No, it made him an effective tool for the health industry.

    For those who prefer the satire:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/08/22/demons-anonymous/

    ^

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  • “Of the Marxist ideology only insular traces remain today…” You forgot to add the anti-white efforts on college campuses today. These are real and ever present and brush against the grain of Russian and Chinese nationalist efforts as well as a coherent American identity that transcends racial divides including HBD. Richard Rorty’s essay on the “Unpatriotic Academy” is always worth re-reading: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/13/opinion/the-unpatriotic-academy.html

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    • Replies: @Thirdeye
    Those aren't Marxist. "Cultural Marxism" is a complete misnomer. Dividing the working classes along ethnic lines keeps them impotent. It is a ruling class strategy.
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  • @Cracker
    Posturing and a few fuck ups. Russia has nothing to worry about. Look at the clowns DC sent to Ukraine.

    Not so simple. The empire of Federal Reserve will continue demanding a pound of flesh from everyone. The parasitoids have been quite successful at hollowing out the US and they are ready for “doing” Russia. http://thesaker.is/russia-in-an-invisible-war/

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  • @Rurik

    Nevertheless, the sheer size of its territory and its command of a substantial nuclear weapon arsenal cement Russia’s role as a primary threat to American national interests.
     
    national interests?

    or hegemonic agenda of domination of the planet?

    what all of this boils down to is the US and the west are today Israeli's bitch. That's why the US destroyed Iraq and that's why NATO destroyed Libya and they're working on Syria, because Saddam and Gadhafi were obsticles not friendly to Israel and because Israel wants the Golan Heights, respectively. None of these countries were any threat to America's interests. Hardly. Any suggestion that they were is ill-informed, or worse.

    This is not a proxy war between the US and Russia. It's a proxy war between Israel and the rest of the planet, with Israel using the US and NATO as their proxies against Putin's Russia as the first real obstacle to their hegemonic designs. Resistance had to come from somewhere if we're not all going to live as Palestinians, and Putin was simply the blade of grass that would not bend to their will, like all the rest of them do since it's easy to destroy third world countries and send them reeling into the stone age (Afghaistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria..), or even better if they're controlled by corrupt quisling politicians to begin with (US, NATO,...). Putin may be corrupt, but he's also a nationalist and actually cares about Russia and has nukes. So that's why he is the obstacle.

    what's going on now is Bibi (Zionism) and Putin (sanity and hope for the world) are pretending that this isn't a proxy war between the two of them. And the rest of the world is pretending too (like this article demonstrates). One day when Bibi and his crew decide that NATO has to go directly to war with Russia in order to achieve their goals, what I suspect will happen is that the pretense will drop, and the men and agendas behind all of these Machiavellian intrigues will be forced out into the open. And I suspect what will happen then is the threat of a kind of reverse Samson Option, with Putin (and the rest of the free world [ironically NOT the dying and corrupt west]) telling Bibi (actually the rabid, ultra-Orthodox Jews in the Knesset who tell Bibi what to do) , that if it comes to NATO vs. Russia, that the first one to go will be the state behind it all.
    Sort of like in those Western movies when the good guy points his shotgun at the guts of the powerful bad guy with all his gunslingers around, and says 'you'll get it first', and then the rich and powerful bad guy says 'take it easy fellas, holster those guns'. Sort of like that I suppose.

    And the world will enter into a new kind of MAD. And there will be the peace.

    Thanks god that Israel is relatively close to the Russian Federation. At some point, the incessant provocations against Russia could become suicidal for the Israelis. Lets hope that Zionists value their lives more than their quest for mythical Great Israel.

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  • @attonn
    West is too sclerotic to win ANYTHING, let alone another Cold war. Posturing is about all it can afford.

    Posturing and a few fuck ups. Russia has nothing to worry about. Look at the clowns DC sent to Ukraine.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Not so simple. The empire of Federal Reserve will continue demanding a pound of flesh from everyone. The parasitoids have been quite successful at hollowing out the US and they are ready for "doing" Russia. http://thesaker.is/russia-in-an-invisible-war/
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  • @guest
    They're not counting the debt. The debt is something that's just there and never changes, except to go up. They take it as given. Imagine you've had $5,000 in credit card debt for years and receive a $100 bonus from work. You might not even think about using it to pay off your debt. You simply think, "Awesome, I have an extra $100 this week!" That's pretty much the mindset.

    I'm constantly surprised when I hear people talk about the nation going broke, or specific programs, like Social Security for instance, running out of money. Hello! We've been broke for a long time. What do you think the national debt is? As far as SS is concerned, I suppose, it's pure ignorance of how things work. They think it's a self-contained system (which what they want you to think, even if that means it's doomed to go bust, because it tricks people into thinking the Welfare State is part of the social contract, or something). As for the rest of the budget, how do people not notice? Because it's turned into background noise.

    I agree. The drive by the establishment for ever increasing immigration is driven their lust to drive wages down but also to maintain the illusion that the various State Ponzi schemes can maintain themselves.

    That the idea that the US and Europe can be turned into comfortable retirement homes staffed and paid for by pleasant and obeisant, productive and well assimilated pig ignorant fleeing peasants is astonishing, yet that’s what we are asked to believe.

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  • West is too sclerotic to win ANYTHING, let alone another Cold war. Posturing is about all it can afford.

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    Posturing and a few fuck ups. Russia has nothing to worry about. Look at the clowns DC sent to Ukraine.
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  • @Bill Jones
    "While the Clinton years of domestic prosperity saw the US economy achieve the rarity of a budget surplus,"

    Why do people keep repeating this lie?

    The national debt has INCREASED EVERY YEAR SINCE 1957

    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo4.htm

    By definition, if the debt has increased, there is no surplus.

    They’re not counting the debt. The debt is something that’s just there and never changes, except to go up. They take it as given. Imagine you’ve had $5,000 in credit card debt for years and receive a $100 bonus from work. You might not even think about using it to pay off your debt. You simply think, “Awesome, I have an extra $100 this week!” That’s pretty much the mindset.

    I’m constantly surprised when I hear people talk about the nation going broke, or specific programs, like Social Security for instance, running out of money. Hello! We’ve been broke for a long time. What do you think the national debt is? As far as SS is concerned, I suppose, it’s pure ignorance of how things work. They think it’s a self-contained system (which what they want you to think, even if that means it’s doomed to go bust, because it tricks people into thinking the Welfare State is part of the social contract, or something). As for the rest of the budget, how do people not notice? Because it’s turned into background noise.

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    I agree. The drive by the establishment for ever increasing immigration is driven their lust to drive wages down but also to maintain the illusion that the various State Ponzi schemes can maintain themselves.

    That the idea that the US and Europe can be turned into comfortable retirement homes staffed and paid for by pleasant and obeisant, productive and well assimilated pig ignorant fleeing peasants is astonishing, yet that's what we are asked to believe.
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  • @KA
    "They drew their lessons from the CIA’s countless ventures in South American “nation building,” where a government’s legitimacy and an opposition’s status as either terrorists or freedom fighters depended on their usefulness for American national interests, often accoutered in pithy terms like the “war on drugs.”

    Thank you. In a nutshell, the phenomenon of terrorism and self serving idea of "nation building" have been clarified .

    On a different note -Memory of Checehn terrorism has become somewhat foggy distant and distorted . Checehn terrorist have always enjoyed enormous goodwill and support in Poland,US and UK . But at the onset when Dudayev was the secessionist leader , it was still a unarmed nonviolent political process with mutual (Russian and Checehnyan) disagreement .
    It has been suggested that the same forces who later supported Checehn terrorism also provoked Yeltsin to mount unnecessary attacks on Chechen .

    I’m too young to remember coverage of the Chechen wars, but my local library still has several books which paint the Chechens in a sympathetic light.

    The best English language book on the subject is Robert W. Schaefer’s The Insurgency in Chechnya and the North Caucasus: From Gazavat to Jihad, but it’s expensive and was never in wide circulation AFAIK.

    There’s a lot of weird things about Chechnya that aren’t talked about at all aside from a handful of conspiracy theory type web sites – even though they merit interest. There’s more info on runet but I’m not sure I have the chops to evaluate how good the sources are.

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  • Seymour Hersh absolutely demonstrated that the Sarin attack in Ghouta was a false flag operation, and that the chemical composition of the gas did not match that stockpiled by Syria when analyzed by the UK defense laboratory Porton Down.

    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

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    It was such a ho-hum effort; the bored, deadpan US officials barely seemed to have convinced themselves. You don't need an ingenious cloak-and-dagger operation when no one's paying attention and no one cares.
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  • Nevertheless, the sheer size of its territory and its command of a substantial nuclear weapon arsenal cement Russia’s role as a primary threat to American national interests.

    national interests?

    or hegemonic agenda of domination of the planet?

    what all of this boils down to is the US and the west are today Israeli’s bitch. That’s why the US destroyed Iraq and that’s why NATO destroyed Libya and they’re working on Syria, because Saddam and Gadhafi were obsticles not friendly to Israel and because Israel wants the Golan Heights, respectively. None of these countries were any threat to America’s interests. Hardly. Any suggestion that they were is ill-informed, or worse.

    This is not a proxy war between the US and Russia. It’s a proxy war between Israel and the rest of the planet, with Israel using the US and NATO as their proxies against Putin’s Russia as the first real obstacle to their hegemonic designs. Resistance had to come from somewhere if we’re not all going to live as Palestinians, and Putin was simply the blade of grass that would not bend to their will, like all the rest of them do since it’s easy to destroy third world countries and send them reeling into the stone age (Afghaistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria..), or even better if they’re controlled by corrupt quisling politicians to begin with (US, NATO,…). Putin may be corrupt, but he’s also a nationalist and actually cares about Russia and has nukes. So that’s why he is the obstacle.

    what’s going on now is Bibi (Zionism) and Putin (sanity and hope for the world) are pretending that this isn’t a proxy war between the two of them. And the rest of the world is pretending too (like this article demonstrates). One day when Bibi and his crew decide that NATO has to go directly to war with Russia in order to achieve their goals, what I suspect will happen is that the pretense will drop, and the men and agendas behind all of these Machiavellian intrigues will be forced out into the open. And I suspect what will happen then is the threat of a kind of reverse Samson Option, with Putin (and the rest of the free world [ironically NOT the dying and corrupt west]) telling Bibi (actually the rabid, ultra-Orthodox Jews in the Knesset who tell Bibi what to do) , that if it comes to NATO vs. Russia, that the first one to go will be the state behind it all.
    Sort of like in those Western movies when the good guy points his shotgun at the guts of the powerful bad guy with all his gunslingers around, and says ‘you’ll get it first’, and then the rich and powerful bad guy says ‘take it easy fellas, holster those guns’. Sort of like that I suppose.

    And the world will enter into a new kind of MAD. And there will be the peace.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Thanks god that Israel is relatively close to the Russian Federation. At some point, the incessant provocations against Russia could become suicidal for the Israelis. Lets hope that Zionists value their lives more than their quest for mythical Great Israel.
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  • the so-called COLD WAR was a myth. It lasted for nearly 50 years without a direct war between USSR and United States. There is no possibility of WWIII – at least over Ukraine or Syria. Both nuclear powers will agreed-upon their sphere of influence in Eastern Europe and Middle East.

    Don’t forget, both USSR and United States were allies against Nazi Germany, which never threatened United States. It’s all about geopolitics and the survival of their common child, the emerging colonial power of Israel.

    Russia, the US and Ukraine are all controlled by Jewish oligarchs. The US, Russia, Israel and the rest of their poodles are trying to keep Iranian Mullahs out of Syria so that Israel remain the “super power” in the region.

    http://rehmat1.com/2015/10/07/a-new-crusade-against-muslims/

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  • “While the Clinton years of domestic prosperity saw the US economy achieve the rarity of a budget surplus,”

    Why do people keep repeating this lie?

    The national debt has INCREASED EVERY YEAR SINCE 1957

    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo4.htm

    By definition, if the debt has increased, there is no surplus.

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    • Replies: @guest
    They're not counting the debt. The debt is something that's just there and never changes, except to go up. They take it as given. Imagine you've had $5,000 in credit card debt for years and receive a $100 bonus from work. You might not even think about using it to pay off your debt. You simply think, "Awesome, I have an extra $100 this week!" That's pretty much the mindset.

    I'm constantly surprised when I hear people talk about the nation going broke, or specific programs, like Social Security for instance, running out of money. Hello! We've been broke for a long time. What do you think the national debt is? As far as SS is concerned, I suppose, it's pure ignorance of how things work. They think it's a self-contained system (which what they want you to think, even if that means it's doomed to go bust, because it tricks people into thinking the Welfare State is part of the social contract, or something). As for the rest of the budget, how do people not notice? Because it's turned into background noise.
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  • When Mr. Obama asserted that “this is not some superpower chessboard contest,” he therefore either told a lie or he demonstrated his government’s utter cluelessness with regard to the actual situation and consequences of their actions in Ukraine, Syria, the South Chinese Sea, and other hotspots of the second Cold War

    Obama is very comfortable with lying. Or better said, Obama is an accomplished liar. ‘Grand Chessboard’ author Brzezinski is still Obama’s man on the inside:

    Brzezinski … in fact acted as the lead political advisor on foreign affairs to President Obama during his 2008 campaign and is still unofficially advising him on foreign policy today

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/zbigniew-brzezinski-the-man-behind-obamas-foreign-policy/21369/

    Good overall assessment. One improvement would be to point out a recent development with revelations it had been Erdogan’s people (Turkey) carried out the 2013 Ghouta sarin gas attack in Syria (blamed on Assad) that killed well over 1,000 ordinary Syrians:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/12/07/send-a-letter/

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    A good president is one who can lie and be believed.
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  • A nice article by a German (I am guessing). So different then what comes from the US.

    My impression is that the Turkish military intervention under the cover of the US, UK and French airforces in Syria is imminent (within three months or less). The EU already gave Turkey Euro3B, supposedly for the refugees, but probably to pay its military for the attack on Syria.

    It will be most interesting to see if the Iraqi Government will rescind the military forces agreement with US and request both Turkey and US to leave Iraq, then call Russia in to help eject the Turks from Iraq. This may complicate the Turkish military intervention in Syria, but is unlikely to stop it.

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  • KA [AKA "Carthage"] says:

    “They drew their lessons from the CIA’s countless ventures in South American “nation building,” where a government’s legitimacy and an opposition’s status as either terrorists or freedom fighters depended on their usefulness for American national interests, often accoutered in pithy terms like the “war on drugs.”

    Thank you. In a nutshell, the phenomenon of terrorism and self serving idea of “nation building” have been clarified .

    On a different note -Memory of Checehn terrorism has become somewhat foggy distant and distorted . Checehn terrorist have always enjoyed enormous goodwill and support in Poland,US and UK . But at the onset when Dudayev was the secessionist leader , it was still a unarmed nonviolent political process with mutual (Russian and Checehnyan) disagreement .
    It has been suggested that the same forces who later supported Checehn terrorism also provoked Yeltsin to mount unnecessary attacks on Chechen .

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    • Replies: @Taras Gitlerov
    I'm too young to remember coverage of the Chechen wars, but my local library still has several books which paint the Chechens in a sympathetic light.

    The best English language book on the subject is Robert W. Schaefer's The Insurgency in Chechnya and the North Caucasus: From Gazavat to Jihad, but it's expensive and was never in wide circulation AFAIK.

    There's a lot of weird things about Chechnya that aren't talked about at all aside from a handful of conspiracy theory type web sites - even though they merit interest. There's more info on runet but I'm not sure I have the chops to evaluate how good the sources are.
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  • I vote for 100% lying. Obama has had alot of years to practice. But then that is all american politicians. well, maybe minus a few.

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