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    Although the memory has faded in recent years, during much of the second half of the twentieth century the name “Tokyo Rose” ranked very high in our popular consciousness, probably second only to “Benedict Arnold” as a byword for American treachery during wartime. The story of Iva Ikuko Toguri, the young Japanese-American woman who spent...
  • I have absolutely no comment on McCain one way or the other; however from 1972-74 I was stationed just outside of Washington D.C. and was a close reader of the Washington Post. Shortly after the mass release of P.OW.s which presumably included McCain, over several days I read several small articles in the back pages of the Post which reported that the military was planning to try a number of the enlisted men for collaborating with the enemy. The final article stated that no one would be courtmartialed after all because the targeted enlisted men threatened to reveal what the officers– who had been imprisoned separately — had done. Since I was a lowly army enlisted man at the time, I was disappointed to learn I would never know how the officers had behaved.

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  • During the long Cold War many Russians grew sufficiently disenchanted with the lies and omissions of their own news outlets that they turned to Western radio for a glimpse of the truth. The growth of the Internet has now provided Americans with a similar opportunity to click on a foreign website and discover the important...
  • Mr. Unz:

    I find it hard to believe that you have only been exposed to this information in the last 6 to 7 years. This information has been in play for decades. I know that I was first exposed to it about 30 years ago. I’m sure you would have considered the sources to be “conspiracy theories”, but when “conspiracy theories” are finally accepted, what do they become then? History? Not yet. There are still too many non-thinkers that are convinced that America is the good guy, and too many traitors that know it is the truth but can’t let it become History that will never allow the truth to be revealed until about two generations after the fact. It is like Schopenhauer’s quote:
    “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

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    You and I were not there, however, I was stationed at Patton Barracks afterward. The Stars and Stripes newspaper was there, and I read Patton WAS alive ... the hospitalmen from the 3rd hospital put him on a stretcher and into an ambulance, rushing him to the hospital not more than 3 or4 miles away. There was no doctor present. It was determined later that the movement of Patton out of his car and onto the stretcher exacerbated his neck injury. Extraordinary attempts to correct his broken neck were tried (and failed) even hooks below his cheekbones to pull/keep his head in position. His wife was flown over to be at his side. He lived for several weeks until he passed away. A plaque in the hospital commemorates the room where he died. He is buried at his request with "his" men at the cemetery in Luxembourg. While his peers and high administration officials feared him and his views, he was NOT assassinated.

    There are photographs of US astronauts on the Moon.

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  • @Avery
    {Who built all these radios and other communication equipments? }
    Soviets did.


    {Even now Russia can’t build its own cellular phone, except in very primitive quality.}

    Former SU, now Russia were/are never good at consumer electronics.
    But people conflate their poor quality consumer goods with military hardware.

    Russians build hardware to fight wars.

    [How Russia's Edge in Electronic Warfare Could 'Ground' the U.S. Air Force ]
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-russias-edge-electronic-warfare-could-ground-the-us-air-15932

    [Modern Russian Electronic Warfare]
    http://www.drs.com/sitrep/q1-2016-the-invisible-fight/modern-russian-electronic-warfare/

    [Controlling the airwaves: Russia's electronic warfare systems]
    http://rbth.com/defence/2016/04/18/controlling-the-airwaves-russias-electronic-warfare-systems_585869

    {Probably the first time that Russian troops used electronic warfare was at the beginning of the 20th century. In 1904, Russian radio operators started jamming Japanese stations, which were directing artillery fire onto Port Arthur in Manchuria during the Russo-Japanese War.}


    {Even now Russia can’t build its own cellular phone, except in very primitive quality.}


    https://www.amazon.com/Smartphone-Yota-Yotaphone-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PZPYN0S

    https://www.engadget.com/products/yota/yotaphone/2/


    {I've spent a fair amount of time with the device, and have to say that it's the most interesting smartphone I've ever used. Like its predecessor, the YotaPhone 2 is still very much a niche proposition with narrow mainstream appeal. That being said, Yota Devices has more or less achieved what it set out to do last year: Make a handset with an E Ink display that has several, legitimate use cases. Whether these will actually tempt you into picking one up is another matter, but the second screen is no longer an oddity; it's an asset.}

    I don't know: I am no cell phone expert, but this Russian design cell phone does not appear to be very primitive.

    What say you?

    Everybody said that Sputnik One in 1956 was a very primitive satellite, certainly compared to the US Explorer One which was launched only two years later and the Soviet Molniya which made a soft landing on the Moon on 31 January 1966 was nothing compared to all the successful US manned Apollo missions to the Moon in 1969, only three years later, in record time. So, yes, we are the greatest, and our made in China cellphones are better than their made in China cellphones.

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  • In mid-March, the Wall Street Journal carried a long discussion of the origins of the Bretton Woods system, the international financial framework that governed the Western world for decades after World War II. A photo showed the two individuals who negotiated that agreement. Britain was represented by John Maynard Keynes, a towering economic figure of...
  • Consider the fascinating perspective of the recently deceased Boris Berezovsky, once the most powerful of the Russian oligarchs and the puppet master behind President Boris Yeltsin during the late 1990s. After looting billions in national wealth and elevating Vladimir Putin to the presidency, he overreached himself and eventually went into exile. According to the New York Times, he had planned to transform Russia into a fake two-party state—one social-democratic and one neoconservative—in which heated public battles would be fought on divisive, symbolic issues, while behind the scenes both parties would actually be controlled by the same ruling elites. With the citizenry thus permanently divided and popular dissatisfaction safely channeled into meaningless dead-ends, Russia’s rulers could maintain unlimited wealth and power for themselves, with little threat to their reign. Given America’s history over the last couple of decades, perhaps we can guess where Berezovsky got his idea for such a clever political scheme.

    This.

    Thanks for the site, Ron!

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  • We can agree about that. Sadly, as usual, truth is the first casualty of war.

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  • @rw95
    I hope then that you're not Irish, Italian, Greek or Slavic. This country was never meant for "all white people" or "all European people." This country was created by Anglo-Germanic protestants FOR Anglo-Germanic protestants. Shall we send back all the other "lesser European groups" as well?

    “This country was never meant for “all white people”

    Heh. Read, and learn — the Naturalization Act of 1790:

    Please locate the words “Anglo-Germanic Protestants” (or a similar formulation) in this legislation. Thanks.

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    @Ron Unz

    Let’s look at this low-velocity projectile again. How do you make something hard enough to break a window and Patton’s neck without being deflected, yet make it ‘low-velocity?’ What was it, a sling-shot?
     
    Well, it's been a couple of years since I read the book in question, and my memory is pretty fuzzy. But as I recall, the author claimed to have very thoroughly investigated all those sorts of physical issues, including an extended visit and detailed examination of the car and surviving physical evidence. I seem to remember that the window was allegedly down, perhaps having been jammed, and an incident had supposedly been arranged to reduce the car to a very slow speed.

    Unfortunately, I just can't really attest to any of this. Why not just spend $8 buying the book and a day or two reading it, and then decide whether your objections remain valid?

    Well, for comparison, an arrow is a *much* slower projectile than pretty much any bullet, yet its penetrative power can be quite impressive:

    , though of course the aerodynamics are quite different. Here is a weird sort of OSS projectile:

    ; there were many others including actual bows, though I don’t know how much use any of them saw. Of course, that doesn’t answer the question of what happened to the projectile, though no doubt Wilcox takes some stab at this issue.

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  • @Philip Owen
    I forgot. We had this conversation before. For someone with access to Russian language media you are not very skilled at interpreting the propaganda. Perhaps you don't want to.

    Sorry to disappoint again, but I live in the States since 1991 and have no access to Russian propaganda. But I do know the US propaganda about Ukraine, and I know the reality from many friends and relatives living there, from Lvov and Kiev to Kharkov region and Lugansk. That’s how I know that the US propaganda about Ukraine is 90% blatant lies and 10% truth twisted beyond recognition. Compared to it, Soviet propaganda was a paragon of truthfulness.

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  • @englishmike

    Solsjenytsyn explains the why excellently in his book on jews in Russia since 1800.
    Jewry just had to blame themselves, harsh trading practices.
    I have the book, trying to find out if there exists a translation of his second book, jews in the USSR since 1917...
     
    The books you refer to are volumes 1 and 2 of Two Hundred Years Together, in his discussion of which, Adeyinka Makinde said this:

    The book was published in Russia amid fears that it would electrify anti-Semitic sentiment and present an opportunity to calumniate the Jews. It became a bestseller there, but in the more than a decade which has elapsed since then no English language translation materialised. The reluctance of the publishing industry to put into print a substantive work created by the winner of a Nobel Prize is a development that warrants close scrutiny.

    Solzhenitsyn: The Price of Blacklisting a Nobel Laureate’s Book
    By Adeyinka Makinde
    (published online as a free, 13-page, pdf download, 23 August 2013)

     

    I believe it is still the case that no official complete English translation has been produced by "the publishing industry". However, Makinde does say that

    The unavailability of Solzhenitsyn’s work in the English language has meant that the limited translations available have been facilitated by White nationalists who, largely disinterested [sic] in the first volume, have unsurprisingly focussed on the second where they are keen to give emphasis to those passages which can be projected in a manner to fit in with their views.
     
    In February 2017 The Occidental Observer site last year publicised one such "limited translation":

    There is a project to publish (long-overdue) translations of Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together. So far, they have posted Chapters 2, 3, 6, and 7, with more on the way. The website is: https://twohundredyearstogether.wordpress.com/ The translation reads very smoothly and seems quite professional.
     

    Solzhenitsyn was a liar and very likely a NKVD/MGB (later KGB) informer. If you want to know the truth, read Varlam Shalamov (e.g., Kolyma tales), and many others.

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  • @Philip Owen
    I saw that part of that exodus when it arrived in Saratov where I have a business. My PA, single, under 30 complained that the young Ukrainian men were in Russia. Most left when told that they would have to pick potatoes in rural areas to receive any support.

    The refugees from Lugansk who made it as far as Cardiff were mostly families, without their fathers including the teenager whose school exchange made them eligible for a visa but those were a few hundred and largely the well off.

    And what are your qualifications? How much Russian do you speak?

    Sorry to disappoint, but I do speak Russian and Ukrainian, the latter better than most self-proclaimed Ukrainian “patriots”. What’s more, I grew up in Lugansk, and in 2015 had to organize evacuation of my 90-year old mother from Lugansk to Russia. Now she lives with us in TN. She was reluctant to move, but agreed to that after Ukrainian shell exploded near the multi-apartment building she lived in and broke all windows in one room. Ukrainian army continuously shelled the area where she lived, which had ~40 multi-apartment buildings, two schools (one of which I attended; Ukrainian shell hit it; luckily, only one of the entrances was damaged), three kindergartens, and nothing else. That’s one of the reasons I always call a spade a spade: current Ukrainian regime is Nazi in everything they do and aspire to.
    I have lots of classmates in Lugansk and I have the accounts of those who crossed the border with Russia. Their stories match each other and my mother’s story, and I have no reason to distrust any of them. I don’t know about Saratov: my info is from the border crossing into Rostov region, Izvarino, which many refugees used, some enduring hours of waiting before crossing, with little kids and elderly parents.

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  • @AnonFromTN
    Did anybody tell you that lying requires more brains than telling the truth? You are unqualified. I know who was there from people who actually saw that exodus: the refugees were ~80% women, children, and older people. Your supervisor won’t pay you for something as clumsy as this.

    I forgot. We had this conversation before. For someone with access to Russian language media you are not very skilled at interpreting the propaganda. Perhaps you don’t want to.

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    Sorry to disappoint again, but I live in the States since 1991 and have no access to Russian propaganda. But I do know the US propaganda about Ukraine, and I know the reality from many friends and relatives living there, from Lvov and Kiev to Kharkov region and Lugansk. That’s how I know that the US propaganda about Ukraine is 90% blatant lies and 10% truth twisted beyond recognition. Compared to it, Soviet propaganda was a paragon of truthfulness.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    Did anybody tell you that lying requires more brains than telling the truth? You are unqualified. I know who was there from people who actually saw that exodus: the refugees were ~80% women, children, and older people. Your supervisor won’t pay you for something as clumsy as this.

    I saw that part of that exodus when it arrived in Saratov where I have a business. My PA, single, under 30 complained that the young Ukrainian men were in Russia. Most left when told that they would have to pick potatoes in rural areas to receive any support.

    The refugees from Lugansk who made it as far as Cardiff were mostly families, without their fathers including the teenager whose school exchange made them eligible for a visa but those were a few hundred and largely the well off.

    And what are your qualifications? How much Russian do you speak?

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    Sorry to disappoint, but I do speak Russian and Ukrainian, the latter better than most self-proclaimed Ukrainian “patriots”. What’s more, I grew up in Lugansk, and in 2015 had to organize evacuation of my 90-year old mother from Lugansk to Russia. Now she lives with us in TN. She was reluctant to move, but agreed to that after Ukrainian shell exploded near the multi-apartment building she lived in and broke all windows in one room. Ukrainian army continuously shelled the area where she lived, which had ~40 multi-apartment buildings, two schools (one of which I attended; Ukrainian shell hit it; luckily, only one of the entrances was damaged), three kindergartens, and nothing else. That’s one of the reasons I always call a spade a spade: current Ukrainian regime is Nazi in everything they do and aspire to.
    I have lots of classmates in Lugansk and I have the accounts of those who crossed the border with Russia. Their stories match each other and my mother’s story, and I have no reason to distrust any of them. I don’t know about Saratov: my info is from the border crossing into Rostov region, Izvarino, which many refugees used, some enduring hours of waiting before crossing, with little kids and elderly parents.
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  • @Bendin of Poland
    ... you are right as long as you can explain the falling plane video. It is the cell phone video - the weak resolution one. Never the less the falling plane has the main fuseladge and the right wing intact while the left wing, the tail and the cocpit blown away.

    the 2 out of 3 main construction points blown away by one rocket?
    the 2 out of 3 blown by a rocket barerly strong enough to savadge one soft element on the other side of the plane?

    Comparing to MH17 the Glivitz Radio hoax looks competent. :-)

    Part of the missiles payload was designed to slice through wings.

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  • @Anon
    To find out what happened Patton, let's look at the details of the accident here. Of supreme importance is the car Patton was in. Here's a photo of it right after the accident:

    http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-general-george-s-patton-car-accident-1945-129582153.html

    Here's another view of this particular make and model of car Patton died in:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-history-cop/2012/02/free-parking-for-general-pattons-staff-car-at-2012-chicago-auto-show/

    It's a 1939 Model 75 Cadillac. It is not a Jeep. There was a technical sargent following behind Patton's staff car in a vehicle which was indeed a Jeep. Why is this distinction important? Because it creates a fundamentally different picture of the accident. According to the telegraph article Ron links to, which is here:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3869117/General-George-S.-Patton-was-assassinated-to-silence-his-criticism-of-allied-war-leaders-claims-new-book.html

    Target Patton claims the OSS agent, "Staged the car crash by getting a troop truck to plough into Patton's Cadillac and then shot the general with a low-velocity projectile, which broke his neck while his fellow passengers escaped without a scratch."

    Now take a look at this description of Patton's death on this page: http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/daily/general-george-s-patton-jr-death-final-days/

    "Neither driver was injured, and Gay received only slight bruises. Patton, on the other hand, although conscious, was bleeding profusely from head wounds received when he was thrown forward against the steel frame of the glass partition separating the front and rear seats and then backward again into his seat. There were, of course, no seat belts in those days, and whereas Gay and Woodring, having seen the oncoming truck, had braced themselves for the impact, Patton, who had been looking out the side window, had not. He knew he was seriously injured and apparently murmured, “I think I’m paralyzed,” and later, “This is a helluva way to die.”

    It was December 9th, a winter day, and Patton was riding in the back seat of a fancy green staff car with enclosed windows. There were no seatbelts, and Patton was looking sideways when the accident happened and had no warning it was about to occur. He was thrown forward with enough force that he cut his face on the glass and steel frame of the partition between the front and back seats, and then was whiplashed backwards.

    The second article says Patton had, "A fracture of the third cervical vertebra, with a posterior dislocation of the fourth cervical vertebra.” Which your head is turned sideways at the moment of impact, slams into a glass partition, and then is whiplashed backwards, that sounds about right for that type of injury.

    But there's still a big problem with the claim that the neck injury was caused by a 'low-velocity projectile.'

    Take a look at the Cadillac staff car again. It has glass windows all the way around. Anybody shooting at Patton at the exact moment the impact of the accident took place, would have had to be one heck of marksman to hit a moving body while Patton was being thrown forward and backwards. It's always hardest to hit a moving target.

    Secondly, it would have to break a window to be able to hit Patton. But, according to Target Patton, it was a 'low-velocity' projectile. Okay, it would have had to smash a window and still retain enough force after that impact to break Patton's neck in a way that didn't look suspicious. Anything that retains enough force to kill somebody that way sounds like a regular bullet, which would have left a plainly visible entry wound. But it's very likely any 'low-velocity projectile' would have ricocheted or deviated from its path because of contact with the glass of the window. There's no way you can guarantee you can hit Patton if you have to shoot through something else with a weapon that is low-velocity, meaning it doesn't have a lot of punch. You have to calculate to an extreme refinement all the forces involved, and they didn't have that level of exactitude in shooting weapons back during World War II.

    And what sort of 'low-velocity projectile' could it have been? Projectiles like guns operate via explosions inside a barrel, which slams the bullet out with tremendous speed and force. How do you make this low velocity? You can slow speed if your projectile is very large, like a cannon ball, but it still takes massive explosive force to move it. This 'low-velocity projectile' would have in all probability stayed inside the vehicle after hitting Patton, and very likely would not have had enough force to exit through another window after hitting both the entry window and Patton, especially if it was low velocity to begin with. If anyone's found any strange object inside the car with Patton, I've never heard of it. I've never heard anyone mention suspicious broken windows around the compartment Patton was riding in, either.

    Let's look at this low-velocity projectile again. How do you make something hard enough to break a window and Patton's neck without being deflected, yet make it 'low-velocity?' What was it, a sling-shot? Low-velocity means not much force could have thrown it. This is a basic law of physics. Besides, if a strange piece of shooting technology existed in 1945, we would have heard what it was by now.

    The physics involved with a 'low-velocity projectile' make no sense at all.

    Sorry Ron, the whole 'Patton was assassinated' thing sounds like a crock of nonsense, and it doesn't hold up according the physical evidence of Patton's death.

    Let’s look at this low-velocity projectile again. How do you make something hard enough to break a window and Patton’s neck without being deflected, yet make it ‘low-velocity?’ What was it, a sling-shot?

    Well, it’s been a couple of years since I read the book in question, and my memory is pretty fuzzy. But as I recall, the author claimed to have very thoroughly investigated all those sorts of physical issues, including an extended visit and detailed examination of the car and surviving physical evidence. I seem to remember that the window was allegedly down, perhaps having been jammed, and an incident had supposedly been arranged to reduce the car to a very slow speed.

    Unfortunately, I just can’t really attest to any of this. Why not just spend $8 buying the book and a day or two reading it, and then decide whether your objections remain valid?

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    Well, for comparison, an arrow is a *much* slower projectile than pretty much any bullet, yet its penetrative power can be quite impressive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAcWu6Y68pA , though of course the aerodynamics are quite different. Here is a weird sort of OSS projectile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bgb4SGTgDY ; there were many others including actual bows, though I don't know how much use any of them saw. Of course, that doesn't answer the question of what happened to the projectile, though no doubt Wilcox takes some stab at this issue.
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  • Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:

    To find out what happened Patton, let’s look at the details of the accident here. Of supreme importance is the car Patton was in. Here’s a photo of it right after the accident:

    http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-general-george-s-patton-car-accident-1945-129582153.html

    Here’s another view of this particular make and model of car Patton died in:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-history-cop/2012/02/free-parking-for-general-pattons-staff-car-at-2012-chicago-auto-show/

    It’s a 1939 Model 75 Cadillac. It is not a Jeep. There was a technical sargent following behind Patton’s staff car in a vehicle which was indeed a Jeep. Why is this distinction important? Because it creates a fundamentally different picture of the accident. According to the telegraph article Ron links to, which is here:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3869117/General-George-S.-Patton-was-assassinated-to-silence-his-criticism-of-allied-war-leaders-claims-new-book.html

    Target Patton claims the OSS agent, “Staged the car crash by getting a troop truck to plough into Patton’s Cadillac and then shot the general with a low-velocity projectile, which broke his neck while his fellow passengers escaped without a scratch.”

    Now take a look at this description of Patton’s death on this page: http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/daily/general-george-s-patton-jr-death-final-days/

    “Neither driver was injured, and Gay received only slight bruises. Patton, on the other hand, although conscious, was bleeding profusely from head wounds received when he was thrown forward against the steel frame of the glass partition separating the front and rear seats and then backward again into his seat. There were, of course, no seat belts in those days, and whereas Gay and Woodring, having seen the oncoming truck, had braced themselves for the impact, Patton, who had been looking out the side window, had not. He knew he was seriously injured and apparently murmured, “I think I’m paralyzed,” and later, “This is a helluva way to die.”

    It was December 9th, a winter day, and Patton was riding in the back seat of a fancy green staff car with enclosed windows. There were no seatbelts, and Patton was looking sideways when the accident happened and had no warning it was about to occur. He was thrown forward with enough force that he cut his face on the glass and steel frame of the partition between the front and back seats, and then was whiplashed backwards.

    The second article says Patton had, “A fracture of the third cervical vertebra, with a posterior dislocation of the fourth cervical vertebra.” Which your head is turned sideways at the moment of impact, slams into a glass partition, and then is whiplashed backwards, that sounds about right for that type of injury.

    But there’s still a big problem with the claim that the neck injury was caused by a ‘low-velocity projectile.’

    Take a look at the Cadillac staff car again. It has glass windows all the way around. Anybody shooting at Patton at the exact moment the impact of the accident took place, would have had to be one heck of marksman to hit a moving body while Patton was being thrown forward and backwards. It’s always hardest to hit a moving target.

    Secondly, it would have to break a window to be able to hit Patton. But, according to Target Patton, it was a ‘low-velocity’ projectile. Okay, it would have had to smash a window and still retain enough force after that impact to break Patton’s neck in a way that didn’t look suspicious. Anything that retains enough force to kill somebody that way sounds like a regular bullet, which would have left a plainly visible entry wound. But it’s very likely any ‘low-velocity projectile’ would have ricocheted or deviated from its path because of contact with the glass of the window. There’s no way you can guarantee you can hit Patton if you have to shoot through something else with a weapon that is low-velocity, meaning it doesn’t have a lot of punch. You have to calculate to an extreme refinement all the forces involved, and they didn’t have that level of exactitude in shooting weapons back during World War II.

    And what sort of ‘low-velocity projectile’ could it have been? Projectiles like guns operate via explosions inside a barrel, which slams the bullet out with tremendous speed and force. How do you make this low velocity? You can slow speed if your projectile is very large, like a cannon ball, but it still takes massive explosive force to move it. This ‘low-velocity projectile’ would have in all probability stayed inside the vehicle after hitting Patton, and very likely would not have had enough force to exit through another window after hitting both the entry window and Patton, especially if it was low velocity to begin with. If anyone’s found any strange object inside the car with Patton, I’ve never heard of it. I’ve never heard anyone mention suspicious broken windows around the compartment Patton was riding in, either.

    Let’s look at this low-velocity projectile again. How do you make something hard enough to break a window and Patton’s neck without being deflected, yet make it ‘low-velocity?’ What was it, a sling-shot? Low-velocity means not much force could have thrown it. This is a basic law of physics. Besides, if a strange piece of shooting technology existed in 1945, we would have heard what it was by now.

    The physics involved with a ‘low-velocity projectile’ make no sense at all.

    Sorry Ron, the whole ‘Patton was assassinated’ thing sounds like a crock of nonsense, and it doesn’t hold up according the physical evidence of Patton’s death.

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    Let’s look at this low-velocity projectile again. How do you make something hard enough to break a window and Patton’s neck without being deflected, yet make it ‘low-velocity?’ What was it, a sling-shot?
     
    Well, it's been a couple of years since I read the book in question, and my memory is pretty fuzzy. But as I recall, the author claimed to have very thoroughly investigated all those sorts of physical issues, including an extended visit and detailed examination of the car and surviving physical evidence. I seem to remember that the window was allegedly down, perhaps having been jammed, and an incident had supposedly been arranged to reduce the car to a very slow speed.

    Unfortunately, I just can't really attest to any of this. Why not just spend $8 buying the book and a day or two reading it, and then decide whether your objections remain valid?
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  • @jilles dykstra
    " Anti-Jewish pogroms were a long-standing tradition in much of what now is Ukraine. "

    Never heard of pro jewish pogroms.
    But the problem with you, and people like you, that they like complaining, but apparently never asked themselves why.
    Yet, Solsjenytsyn explains the why excellently in his book on jews in Russia since 1800.
    Jewry just had to blame themselves, harsh trading practices.

    I have the book, trying to find out if there exists a translation of his second book, jews in the USSR since 1917, to my surprise the cheapest book on sale, the first book, is some $ 70.
    This $ 70 is the german translation.
    Prices like this often indicate that books are bought up, to prevent that they are read.
    Cannot remember what I paid long ago, but I hardly ever pay more than € 20 for a book.

    Please do read
    ‘From prejudice to destruction’, Jacob Katz, 1980, Cambridge MA
    This jewish Israeli historian explains German antisemitism.
    He's the exception, all the others just 'explain' antisemitism by antisemitism.

    Solsjenytsyn explains the why excellently in his book on jews in Russia since 1800.
    Jewry just had to blame themselves, harsh trading practices.
    I have the book, trying to find out if there exists a translation of his second book, jews in the USSR since 1917…

    The books you refer to are volumes 1 and 2 of Two Hundred Years Together, in his discussion of which, Adeyinka Makinde said this:

    The book was published in Russia amid fears that it would electrify anti-Semitic sentiment and present an opportunity to calumniate the Jews. It became a bestseller there, but in the more than a decade which has elapsed since then no English language translation materialised. The reluctance of the publishing industry to put into print a substantive work created by the winner of a Nobel Prize is a development that warrants close scrutiny.

    Solzhenitsyn: The Price of Blacklisting a Nobel Laureate’s Book
    By Adeyinka Makinde
    (published online as a free, 13-page, pdf download, 23 August 2013)

    I believe it is still the case that no official complete English translation has been produced by “the publishing industry”. However, Makinde does say that

    The unavailability of Solzhenitsyn’s work in the English language has meant that the limited translations available have been facilitated by White nationalists who, largely disinterested [sic] in the first volume, have unsurprisingly focussed on the second where they are keen to give emphasis to those passages which can be projected in a manner to fit in with their views.

    In February 2017 The Occidental Observer site last year publicised one such “limited translation”:

    There is a project to publish (long-overdue) translations of Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together. So far, they have posted Chapters 2, 3, 6, and 7, with more on the way. The website is: https://twohundredyearstogether.wordpress.com/ The translation reads very smoothly and seems quite professional.

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    Solzhenitsyn was a liar and very likely a NKVD/MGB (later KGB) informer. If you want to know the truth, read Varlam Shalamov (e.g., Kolyma tales), and many others.
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  • @Anonymous
    I have the book and it is astounding. Mr Unz you are right on the money to surmise it was a political hit by the communist sympathizers against a powerful anti-communist.

    The end of WWII was a charade. We, the USA, didn't really win it. Patton was right. He knew the USSR needed to be confronted and not given any territory!

    We are still living with the fallout in the form of the E.U. which was/is a Soviet project.

    The end of WWII was a charade. We, the USA, didn’t really win it. Patton was right. He knew the USSR needed to be confronted and not given any territory!

    The problem is that people have this idea that people in power will do the right thing if they recognize it… that is a bad idea to deceive yourself with…

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  • @a__german
    Boring theme. A few days after the shoot-down the reason was clear, crystal clear. A rocket, because pictures can talk if you can read them. Just some knowledge of physics needed. Nobody here?

    Most likely nobody understands. So lets use Occam's razor, the easiest answer contains the most possibility.

    In this way the why is clear as the reason was. An accident caused by an systematic error in the weapon.

    Simply by the fact that this radar bearing rocket developed in the 70ths of last century
    comes to the world of 2014.

    Full with frequencies in GigaHz bands from mobile phones, flooded with the radar waves from the plane itself (one or several systems in the front radome) and maybe the microwave in the business class pantry too.

    Are you all too stupid to see this simple facts and the conclusions? Even if you know that a similar rocket shoots down a freight liner over the Mediterranean during a military exercise (which is near impossibility and the Ukrainians paid compensation for). I cant believe that you all are dumb as dry bread. But i have reason because i posted this in 2014 too. at this website.

    … you are right as long as you can explain the falling plane video. It is the cell phone video – the weak resolution one. Never the less the falling plane has the main fuseladge and the right wing intact while the left wing, the tail and the cocpit blown away.

    the 2 out of 3 main construction points blown away by one rocket?
    the 2 out of 3 blown by a rocket barerly strong enough to savadge one soft element on the other side of the plane?

    Comparing to MH17 the Glivitz Radio hoax looks competent. :-)

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    Part of the missiles payload was designed to slice through wings.
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  • Pat Tillman was the new Patton, got the same treatment.. We’ve been warned many times. The treason runs DEEP.. Don’t forget about what the Bolsheviks did to Christians in Russia, we’re approaching that type of situation.

    Nixon, Truman, and FDR’s Private Thoughts About Jews

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2013/08/30/nixon-truman-and-fdr%e2%80%99s-private-thoughts-about-jews/

    http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/Final_Judgment.pdf

    Israel’s Mossad was a primary (and critical) behind the scenes player in the conspiracy that ended the life of JFK. Through its own vast resources and through its international contacts in the intelligence community and in organised crime, Israel had the means, it had the opportunity, and it had the motive to play a major frontline role in the crime of the century – and it did.”
    It was Piper’s assertion that Israel’s motive for the assassination was Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion’s outrage at JFK’s opposition to Israel becoming a nuclear power, and that in his final days as Prime Minister Ben-Gurion commanded the Mossad to become involved in a plot to kill America’s president. JFK’s assassination served the dual purpose of eliminating not only the threat to Israel’s nuclear ambitions, but also the need for the AZC to register as a foreign agent. So when Vice President Lyndon Johnson (LBJ) was sworn in as JFK’s successor, he wasted no time in increasing Israel’s arms budget and also turned a blind eye to its nuclear arms development program. A further blow to the integrity and independence of the U.S. Senate occurred in November 1963, when Nicholas Katzenbach replaced RFK as Attorney General with the result that the AZC evaded registration and calculatingly morphed into the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

    Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that U.S.-based Israeli Mossad agents might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.

    http://original.antiwar.com/alison-weir/2012/01/24/israeli-assassinations-and-american-presidents/

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html

    On Jan. 13 the Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that Israel might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.
    In the column, publisher Andrew Adler describes a scenario in which Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu would need to “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel.”
    The purpose? So that the vice president could then take office and dictate U.S. policies that would help the Jewish state “obliterate its enemies.”

    http://time.com/4711687/john-f-kennedy-diary-hitler/

    The diary reveals that during his time in Berlin, Kennedy wrote about visiting Hitler’s bunker only months after Germany surrendered in the Second World War.
    “You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived,” Kennedy wrote in his diary in 1945.
    “He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him,” he added. “He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”
    “The room where Hitler is supposed to have met his death showed scorched walls and traces of fire,” he wrote. “There is no complete evidence, however, that the body that was found was Hitler’s body.” “The Russians doubt that he is dead,” Kennedy added.

    1962-63 period Senator William J. Fulbright of Arkansas, Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Relations, convened hearings on the legal status of the American Zionist Council (AZC). Fulbright — who lost his Senate seat the following year — had no qualms about boldly announcing on CBS Face the Nation that :
    “Israel controls the U.S. Senate. The Senate is subservient, much too much; we should be more concerned about U.S. interests rather than doing the bidding of Israel. The great majority of the Senate of the U.S. —somewhere around 80%— is completely in support of Israel; anything Israel wants; Israel gets. This has been demonstrated time and again, and this has made [foreign policy] difficult for our government.”

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  • Boring theme. A few days after the shoot-down the reason was clear, crystal clear. A rocket, because pictures can talk if you can read them. Just some knowledge of physics needed. Nobody here?

    Most likely nobody understands. So lets use Occam’s razor, the easiest answer contains the most possibility.

    In this way the why is clear as the reason was. An accident caused by an systematic error in the weapon.

    Simply by the fact that this radar bearing rocket developed in the 70ths of last century
    comes to the world of 2014.

    Full with frequencies in GigaHz bands from mobile phones, flooded with the radar waves from the plane itself (one or several systems in the front radome) and maybe the microwave in the business class pantry too.

    Are you all too stupid to see this simple facts and the conclusions? Even if you know that a similar rocket shoots down a freight liner over the Mediterranean during a military exercise (which is near impossibility and the Ukrainians paid compensation for). I cant believe that you all are dumb as dry bread. But i have reason because i posted this in 2014 too. at this website.

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    ... you are right as long as you can explain the falling plane video. It is the cell phone video - the weak resolution one. Never the less the falling plane has the main fuseladge and the right wing intact while the left wing, the tail and the cocpit blown away.

    the 2 out of 3 main construction points blown away by one rocket?
    the 2 out of 3 blown by a rocket barerly strong enough to savadge one soft element on the other side of the plane?

    Comparing to MH17 the Glivitz Radio hoax looks competent. :-)
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  • @guest
    McCarthy had already been humiliated; he wouldn't have been worth the trouble. Actually, had he lived and got back in the news it'd probably have been win-win. He either embarrasses himself further (right or wrong, doesn't matter, because they beat him the first time around when he was right and they were wrong, mostly) or he hits on more unmentionable truths and they say, "Oh, that crazy/mean old McCarthy!"

    McCarthy had already been humiliated; he wouldn’t have been worth the trouble.

    Of course he would’ve been “worth the trouble” to American Marxists – take a look around at the species today, even more vengeful and sadistic peddlers of ideological scorched earth than their forebears ever were. (Of course, those forebears had to live with the uncomfortable possibility that the US might clean their clocks for them, here and abroad, which taught them discretion.)

    Their choosing an opportune moment to prevent any sort of second act for the Tailgunner makes a lot more sense than his dying of “alcoholism” at age 48….a death that raised little (allowable) suspicion and no investigations.

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  • @Carlton Meyer
    Thank you for revisiting this "conspiracy", the first which opened my eyes. Here are two videos for those too young or too busy to know about this. The first is about a National Guard pilot flying nearby who had served in Vietnam, and reported in the well read "Aviation Week" that a missile streaked upward and hit the airplane. This report was ignored, although a local news station did this report:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNT7EQObFnA

    And then in 2013, the now retired federal investigators went public and said it was hit by a missile, and a documentary was made, which was on Netflix for a few weeks and then disappeared. No one in our Congress cares! Here is one of many good documentaries.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF68-HQ74tI

    The lead FBI "investigator" retired and quadrupled his annual salary as a security consultant for Chase Bank.

    I don't know what happened, but the best evidence is that our Navy accidentally shot it down.

    Another Reason Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. The ABC agencies are in a death spiral over the ascendancy of Mr. Smith and his flyover deplorables – absent a Control File.

    Rather than behave and deny – they are in a death spiral of hysterical – yet ineffective – acts to remove the Donald.

    FINALLY – we understand exactly how depraved the FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ, IRS and every other ABC agency really is and has been.

    Chappaquidick is another stroke of genius…It forces Dems to gander at just how depraved their ‘heroes’ were, are and will continue to be.

    WE ARE UGANDA… WE ARE MOLDOVA… WE ARE ALBANIA.. with better production skills.

    It really is time for a housecleaning… a revolt… and blood in the streets.

    And Trump is the gift – whose very existence in the SWAMP forced the enemies of our Republic LEFT AND RIGHT to reveal themselves for the hucksters and demons they are.

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  • @Anonymous
    Good post. I wonder how many people who claim to “know” exactly what happened in instances such as the Syrian gas attacks and the airliner downing over Ukraine, where there are conflicting stories and propaganda from two or more players creating elaborate tales for the faithful to “debunk”, would bet their life against a Magic Truth Machine. So if the Truth Machine validates a theory as correct they win a nice prize, but if the theory is wrong they pay with their life.

    My guess is not many would do so. Most people pick a side like they pick a sports team that appeals to them and stay with that side regardless of what the evidence reveals or does not reveal. It’s just a game of tribal bullshitting and posturing on the internet.

    With no risk to life or limb and nothing important at stake it’s easy to confidently construct “truths” based on cherry picked “facts” that line up with ones geopolitical sympathies.

    With some skin in the game I confidently predict that would change :-)

    Most people pick a side like they pick a sports team that appeals to them and stay with that side regardless of what the evidence reveals or does not reveal. It’s just a game of tribal bullshitting and posturing on the internet.

    With no risk to life or limb and nothing important at stake it’s easy to confidently construct “truths” based on cherry picked “facts” that line up with ones geopolitical sympathies.

    With some skin in the game I confidently predict that would change.

    Of course.

    Whenever I start taking all this “Internet conversations” serious I re-read a quote I picked from a post of some lady on some other forum:

    One thing I’ve learned through my many, many years of having my blog and trying to figure out what’s happening for myself- That only a very few are interested in truth as can be discerned to the best of one’s ability- The rest just want, like high school, to follow the ‘in crowd’ and belong.

    I’d just add a couple of psychopaths, several sociopaths and, also, handful of “paid guys”.

    Apart from “paid guys” and a few persons who are trying to figure out things, the rest simply cater for their psychological, mostly emotional, needs.
    Almost all of that is, simply, an “online therapy”.

    Nothing wrong there, IMHO.
    That’s simply how we are hard wired.
    Just take a look at social media. That’s us.
    This place is “populated” by “us”.

    What is good, though, is that free speech is, still, allowed here and every now and then there is a very good comment.
    Such comments are worth skipping/skimming/wading through the rest.
    And, I really commend the owner for that “ignore” button. Helps a lot.

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    @peterAUS
    Yeah......

    In meantime, for the minority here (mature and/or reading a bit of history, say, 5 %):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents
    especially:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
    US Navy Cruiser, Aegis type, during peace, made a mistake.
    In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not.

    That's for the shooting.
    Now, the "fallout" from the shooting is another matter altogether and something definitely highly politicized against Russia.

    The only which interests me here is the inability of interested public to get the truth. Even in this era of instant communication and access to all sorts of data and computing power, when it really matters, public is helpless.

    Addressing that could, maybe, be somewhat productive here.

    And those who spout they know how about this: would you sign a death sentence against the crew that did it? You sign it with full confidence and they'll get executed 2 hours later. If you can that's another interesting thing around here.

    Good post. I wonder how many people who claim to “know” exactly what happened in instances such as the Syrian gas attacks and the airliner downing over Ukraine, where there are conflicting stories and propaganda from two or more players creating elaborate tales for the faithful to “debunk”, would bet their life against a Magic Truth Machine. So if the Truth Machine validates a theory as correct they win a nice prize, but if the theory is wrong they pay with their life.

    My guess is not many would do so. Most people pick a side like they pick a sports team that appeals to them and stay with that side regardless of what the evidence reveals or does not reveal. It’s just a game of tribal bullshitting and posturing on the internet.

    With no risk to life or limb and nothing important at stake it’s easy to confidently construct “truths” based on cherry picked “facts” that line up with ones geopolitical sympathies.

    With some skin in the game I confidently predict that would change :-)

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    Most people pick a side like they pick a sports team that appeals to them and stay with that side regardless of what the evidence reveals or does not reveal. It’s just a game of tribal bullshitting and posturing on the internet.

    With no risk to life or limb and nothing important at stake it’s easy to confidently construct “truths” based on cherry picked “facts” that line up with ones geopolitical sympathies.

    With some skin in the game I confidently predict that would change.
     
    Of course.

    Whenever I start taking all this "Internet conversations" serious I re-read a quote I picked from a post of some lady on some other forum:

    One thing I’ve learned through my many, many years of having my blog and trying to figure out what’s happening for myself- That only a very few are interested in truth as can be discerned to the best of one’s ability- The rest just want, like high school, to follow the ‘in crowd’ and belong.
     
    I'd just add a couple of psychopaths, several sociopaths and, also, handful of "paid guys".

    Apart from "paid guys" and a few persons who are trying to figure out things, the rest simply cater for their psychological, mostly emotional, needs.
    Almost all of that is, simply, an "online therapy".

    Nothing wrong there, IMHO.
    That's simply how we are hard wired.
    Just take a look at social media. That's us.
    This place is "populated" by "us".

    What is good, though, is that free speech is, still, allowed here and every now and then there is a very good comment.
    Such comments are worth skipping/skimming/wading through the rest.
    And, I really commend the owner for that "ignore" button. Helps a lot.
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  • @Philip Owen
    The Donbass refugees going to Russia were mostly young men. In Saratov, 2000 out of 3500, for example.

    Did anybody tell you that lying requires more brains than telling the truth? You are unqualified. I know who was there from people who actually saw that exodus: the refugees were ~80% women, children, and older people. Your supervisor won’t pay you for something as clumsy as this.

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    I saw that part of that exodus when it arrived in Saratov where I have a business. My PA, single, under 30 complained that the young Ukrainian men were in Russia. Most left when told that they would have to pick potatoes in rural areas to receive any support.

    The refugees from Lugansk who made it as far as Cardiff were mostly families, without their fathers including the teenager whose school exchange made them eligible for a visa but those were a few hundred and largely the well off.

    And what are your qualifications? How much Russian do you speak?
    , @Philip Owen
    I forgot. We had this conversation before. For someone with access to Russian language media you are not very skilled at interpreting the propaganda. Perhaps you don't want to.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    I think you are purposely conflating things that are not the same. Tried and true arguing technique: claim that your opponent said something nonsensical, then show how nonsensical it is.
    I am against open borders, I strongly believe that each country should keep its borders closed and should not fall for the ruse of “refugees”. I also believe that many EU countries are committing suicide by admitting lots of people with incompatible cultures. Besides, genuine refugees are usually women, children, and elderly (say, like Donbass refugees going to Russia). When the “refugees” are mostly able-bodied young males of draft age, they are not refugees, they are an invasion army. You can thank your EU bureaucracy for the surrender of Europe, which I used to like as a great vacation destination and will miss.
    My point is that people of all colors, religions (or lack thereof), and national origins can be smart or dumb, hard-working or lazy, law abiding or prone to breaking the law, etc. There is no correlation between any of these things with their color, nationality, or religion. What’s more, smart people change their ways to fit the prevailing culture of their country of residence. BTW, the US population (with the exception of Native Americans who survived genocide) is composed of a variety of immigrants. It used to be the strength of the country, before elites took over and imposed “political correctness”.

    The Donbass refugees going to Russia were mostly young men. In Saratov, 2000 out of 3500, for example.

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    Did anybody tell you that lying requires more brains than telling the truth? You are unqualified. I know who was there from people who actually saw that exodus: the refugees were ~80% women, children, and older people. Your supervisor won’t pay you for something as clumsy as this.
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  • As good ods fashion principles in investigating any crime.
    FOLLOW THE MONEY
    CUI PODESTA(BONO)?
    Enough said as more mendacious accusations from pax-amaericana and all their vassals come storming through these events that have occured since Yugoslavia to this very day.
    HAVE YOU NO SHAME OR IS HUMANITY DOOMED ?

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  • I hesitate to keep beating this dead horse thread but…

    Nova had a great episode re 9/11: Why the Towers Fell

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2907_wtc.html

    Leslie Robertson was an engineer that designed the World Trade Center.

    LESLIE ROBERTSON: We had designed the project for the impact of the largest airplane of its time, the Boeing 707, that is, to take this jet airplane, run it into the building, destroy a lot of structure and still have it stand up.

    LESLIE ROBERTSON: With the 707, to the best of my knowledge, the fuel load was not considered in the design. Indeed, I don’t know how it could have been considered.

    END QUOTES

    Now I’m not an engineer but if you design a building to handle load x, it stands to reason that it might not handle load x + 10.

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  • @Rurik

    There wasn’t really much of anything large enough to piece back together.
     
    there should have been at Shanksville

    unless the earth simply swallowed up the plane and all the passengers and luggage, etc.. and went down close enough to the core of the earth where it's so hot it just vaporized it all.

    http://aldeilis.net/english/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2012/01/img444.imageshack.us_img444_1033_ua93crashingmk2.gif

    When United Airlines Flight 585 crashed in Colorado Springs, it hit the ground so hard there was literally nothing but fragments left.

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  • @jilles dykstra
    Quite pleased too see that more than 80% of the places you name I visited.
    You do not mention Walnut Creek, or Meteor Crater.
    From Meteor Crater I took an dirt road, still quite well remember the rocks I managed to drive over without uninsured damage with the RV, great admiration for automatic gearboxes with fluid coupling.
    I made the tourist round SF LA Las Vegas twice, but along different roads.
    Indian culture, quite a number of books, but of the SW
    Edward H. Spicer, 'Cycles of Conquest, The Impact of Spain, Mexico, and the United States of the Southwest', 1533 - 1960', Tucson, 1962, 1970
    Las Vegas, the best meal I ever had.
    Not cheap.
    Grand Canyon, on foot until Plateau Point, when I was again in our RV my idea was that I'd ruined my knees forever.
    Death Valley, going down there on a dirt road with an automatic gearbox and drum brakes, no great fun, engine braking just at 30MPH.
    Near Mammoth Lakes so much snow that we had to buy chains.
    Indian literature:
    ⦁ Paul Kane, 'Wanderings of an artist among the Indians of America', 1859, 1996, New York
    ⦁ Walker D. Wyman, ‘Nothing but prairie and Sky, Life on the Dakota Range in the Early Days’, 1954, University of Oklahoma
    ⦁ Margaret Irvin Carrington, ‘Absaraka, Home of the Crows, Experience of an officers wife on the Plains’, 1868, 1983 University of Nebraska
    ⦁ William Bartram, ed. Mark Van Doren, `Travels of William Bartram, Trough North & South Carolina, Georgia, East & West Florida, Cherokee, Muscogulges, Chataws’, 1791, 1955, New York
    ⦁ Hugh L. Willoughby, ‘Across the Everglades, A Canoe Journey of Exploration’, 1898, 1992, Port Salerno, Florida
    ⦁ Marjory Stoneman Douglas, ‘The Everglades: River of Grass’, 1947, 1995, Marietta, GA
    ⦁ J.W.Powell, ‘The exploration of the Colorado river and its canyons’, 1895, 1961, New York
    ⦁ Francis Parkman, ‘The Oregon trail’, New York, 2002, Boston, 1883, 1847
    Stan Hoig, "The Sand Creek Massacre', Oklahoma, 1961, 1982

    Thanks! I never read most of these books. Will be in illuminating reading.
    Meteor crater is an interesting place, but it’s a bit of a side trip if you go from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon. We went there on a separate trip, via I-10. Never been to Walnut Creek. Too late now: I moved to TN.
    I was to Everglades with my daughter. My most vivid memory is the profusion of mosquitoes. Anti-mosquito spray works for all of 5 min, and then they are back. On the way back I bought a very appropriate bumper sticker, with red cross, mosquito, and words “I gave blood at Everglades”. I have better memories of the Biscayne reef in Florida (also a national park), although Hawaiian coral reefs and those on St. John island in the US Virgin Islands are much more impressive. I liked St. John best because we were there during the hurricane season in September, so there were very few people. In essence, you had every bay to yourself. The temperature of the water allows you to stay in indefinitely.
    What I like about Tony Hillerman (in addition to the fact that he is entertaining) is that his perspective is not quite white. I think white man’s perspective on Indians distorts things. They have a different view of life, not clouded by the pursuit of money, which leads our elites to the destruction of the world right now. If Trump keeps current suicidal course in Syria, all these great places and most humans can be destroyed in the death throws of the Empire. Looks like boundless greed is the most destructive and dehumanizing force on Earth.

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  • @AnonFromTN
    Only downtown SF looks European (even Chinatown), if you go further afield or come to Oakland, it’s “anywhere USA” or worse.
    Personally, I like Las Vegas. It’s mindless entertainment that was not done on the cheap. If you know math and don’t gamble, it is also a bargain. I was there last time a few years ago and noticed that it is becoming more upscale. The fountain with classical music and light show in front of Bellagio, as well as their restaurant on the edge of that fountain, or the restaurant in Cosmopolitan with a view of that fountain, are pretty impressive (not cheap, though).
    I never was in Badlands, unfortunately. There are many stunning places in the West, including national parks, such as Bryce Canyon, Zion, Sequoia (worth visiting twice, in summer and in winter – it looks very different), Grand Canyon (you want to come from the South), Saguaro, Redwood, Yosemite, Arches, Canyonlands, Mesa Verde, etc. South Dakota is also worth seeing; in fact, Mount Rushmore is the least interesting thing there, but the vistas are very impressive and surprisingly beautiful. If you have time and inclination, you can drive from Phoenix to Las Vegas via Hoover Dam – the drive is as long as from Madrid to Warsaw, but the views are stunning. The absence of people and towns improves them. Just make sure you have full tank of gas North of I-10 and a gallon of water per person. Or you can drive from Phoenix to Grand Canyon via Petrified Forest and Painted Desert: everything North of Flagstaff looks like the Moon or Mars.
    In the East, I think only Mammoth Cave is worth visiting (both sides, so you want two tours that you need to book ahead to squeeze them into one day). You can also stay overnight in the motel inside the park and see deer coming close to your balcony in the evening.
    As to locals, you cannot expect high school dropouts you encounter at gas stations, fast food eateries, and near-highway motels to know history (or anything else, for that matter). They usually do the only thing they know how: serve you in those undemanding capacities.
    If you like Indian culture, you might enjoy reading Hillerman – all his stories are in AZ and NM, and although the stories themselves are rather simplistic, he conveys the spirit of the Indian country, Navaho and Pueblo Indians, pretty well. Gives you a different perspective on white culture.

    Quite pleased too see that more than 80% of the places you name I visited.
    You do not mention Walnut Creek, or Meteor Crater.
    From Meteor Crater I took an dirt road, still quite well remember the rocks I managed to drive over without uninsured damage with the RV, great admiration for automatic gearboxes with fluid coupling.
    I made the tourist round SF LA Las Vegas twice, but along different roads.
    Indian culture, quite a number of books, but of the SW
    Edward H. Spicer, ‘Cycles of Conquest, The Impact of Spain, Mexico, and the United States of the Southwest’, 1533 – 1960′, Tucson, 1962, 1970
    Las Vegas, the best meal I ever had.
    Not cheap.
    Grand Canyon, on foot until Plateau Point, when I was again in our RV my idea was that I’d ruined my knees forever.
    Death Valley, going down there on a dirt road with an automatic gearbox and drum brakes, no great fun, engine braking just at 30MPH.
    Near Mammoth Lakes so much snow that we had to buy chains.
    Indian literature:
    ⦁ Paul Kane, ‘Wanderings of an artist among the Indians of America’, 1859, 1996, New York
    ⦁ Walker D. Wyman, ‘Nothing but prairie and Sky, Life on the Dakota Range in the Early Days’, 1954, University of Oklahoma
    ⦁ Margaret Irvin Carrington, ‘Absaraka, Home of the Crows, Experience of an officers wife on the Plains’, 1868, 1983 University of Nebraska
    ⦁ William Bartram, ed. Mark Van Doren, `Travels of William Bartram, Trough North & South Carolina, Georgia, East & West Florida, Cherokee, Muscogulges, Chataws’, 1791, 1955, New York
    ⦁ Hugh L. Willoughby, ‘Across the Everglades, A Canoe Journey of Exploration’, 1898, 1992, Port Salerno, Florida
    ⦁ Marjory Stoneman Douglas, ‘The Everglades: River of Grass’, 1947, 1995, Marietta, GA
    ⦁ J.W.Powell, ‘The exploration of the Colorado river and its canyons’, 1895, 1961, New York
    ⦁ Francis Parkman, ‘The Oregon trail’, New York, 2002, Boston, 1883, 1847
    Stan Hoig, “The Sand Creek Massacre’, Oklahoma, 1961, 1982

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    Thanks! I never read most of these books. Will be in illuminating reading.
    Meteor crater is an interesting place, but it’s a bit of a side trip if you go from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon. We went there on a separate trip, via I-10. Never been to Walnut Creek. Too late now: I moved to TN.
    I was to Everglades with my daughter. My most vivid memory is the profusion of mosquitoes. Anti-mosquito spray works for all of 5 min, and then they are back. On the way back I bought a very appropriate bumper sticker, with red cross, mosquito, and words “I gave blood at Everglades”. I have better memories of the Biscayne reef in Florida (also a national park), although Hawaiian coral reefs and those on St. John island in the US Virgin Islands are much more impressive. I liked St. John best because we were there during the hurricane season in September, so there were very few people. In essence, you had every bay to yourself. The temperature of the water allows you to stay in indefinitely.
    What I like about Tony Hillerman (in addition to the fact that he is entertaining) is that his perspective is not quite white. I think white man’s perspective on Indians distorts things. They have a different view of life, not clouded by the pursuit of money, which leads our elites to the destruction of the world right now. If Trump keeps current suicidal course in Syria, all these great places and most humans can be destroyed in the death throws of the Empire. Looks like boundless greed is the most destructive and dehumanizing force on Earth.
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  • During the long Cold War many Russians grew sufficiently disenchanted with the lies and omissions of their own news outlets that they turned to Western radio for a glimpse of the truth. The growth of the Internet has now provided Americans with a similar opportunity to click on a foreign website and discover the important...
  • No significance in this story, hovever sort of annectdotal : I have stood outside of the room in the US Army hosp in Heidelberg in which he passed Dec 1945.

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  • Perhaps the best article on the predicament General Patton found himself in is here — https://nationalvanguard.org/2014/12/general-pattons-warning/ “General Patton’s Warning” by William Pierce

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  • @The Alarmist
    I doubt the Red Army would have bothered to cross the Channel, much less the Atlantic, but the rest of Western Europe would have been in play and fairly easy pickings for the Red Army.

    The next question this raises is, "If France had been occupied by the Red Army after WWII, would you be able to tell the difference today?"

    The next question this raises is, “If France had been occupied by the Red Army after WWII, would you be able to tell the difference today?”

    There would be less Trucks of Peace.

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  • @jilles dykstra
    Anything white over fifty years old got a historical marker, when I visited the USA for the first time in 1978, the tourist trip, LA, SF, las Vegas.
    If anything astonished me it was Las Vegas.
    On the one hand why people want to go there, on the other the organisation, 24/7 'entertainment' going on.
    SF looks European, LA is a disaster.
    Miami, when one speaks english one is discriminated, my wife speaks spanish reasonably, when she switched to that language she was welcome.
    Not far from Hyatville, a later trip, Seattle to Minneapolis, 30.000 years continued habitation was unearthed.
    When I visited the place there was hardly anything to see, a girl I asked said 'yeah, the petroglyphs'.
    I saw them, and got some information in the visitor centre, a hut of maybe three by four metres.
    Yet there were Indian civilisations galore
    Walnut Creek is such a place.
    USA madness, Hearst Castle, and the Spanish monastery in Miami.
    Paul Kane, 'Wanderings of an artist among the Indians of America', 1859, 1996, New York
    Ronald Wright, 'Stolen Continents, Conquest and Resistance in the Americas', 1992, London
    But indeed the USA scenery is unbelievable when one comes from a country more and more resembling LA.
    But I think the Badlands impressed me most, huge areas with nothing.
    I was lucky in by accident entering at the back door, from the east.

    Only downtown SF looks European (even Chinatown), if you go further afield or come to Oakland, it’s “anywhere USA” or worse.
    Personally, I like Las Vegas. It’s mindless entertainment that was not done on the cheap. If you know math and don’t gamble, it is also a bargain. I was there last time a few years ago and noticed that it is becoming more upscale. The fountain with classical music and light show in front of Bellagio, as well as their restaurant on the edge of that fountain, or the restaurant in Cosmopolitan with a view of that fountain, are pretty impressive (not cheap, though).
    I never was in Badlands, unfortunately. There are many stunning places in the West, including national parks, such as Bryce Canyon, Zion, Sequoia (worth visiting twice, in summer and in winter – it looks very different), Grand Canyon (you want to come from the South), Saguaro, Redwood, Yosemite, Arches, Canyonlands, Mesa Verde, etc. South Dakota is also worth seeing; in fact, Mount Rushmore is the least interesting thing there, but the vistas are very impressive and surprisingly beautiful. If you have time and inclination, you can drive from Phoenix to Las Vegas via Hoover Dam – the drive is as long as from Madrid to Warsaw, but the views are stunning. The absence of people and towns improves them. Just make sure you have full tank of gas North of I-10 and a gallon of water per person. Or you can drive from Phoenix to Grand Canyon via Petrified Forest and Painted Desert: everything North of Flagstaff looks like the Moon or Mars.
    In the East, I think only Mammoth Cave is worth visiting (both sides, so you want two tours that you need to book ahead to squeeze them into one day). You can also stay overnight in the motel inside the park and see deer coming close to your balcony in the evening.
    As to locals, you cannot expect high school dropouts you encounter at gas stations, fast food eateries, and near-highway motels to know history (or anything else, for that matter). They usually do the only thing they know how: serve you in those undemanding capacities.
    If you like Indian culture, you might enjoy reading Hillerman – all his stories are in AZ and NM, and although the stories themselves are rather simplistic, he conveys the spirit of the Indian country, Navaho and Pueblo Indians, pretty well. Gives you a different perspective on white culture.

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    Quite pleased too see that more than 80% of the places you name I visited.
    You do not mention Walnut Creek, or Meteor Crater.
    From Meteor Crater I took an dirt road, still quite well remember the rocks I managed to drive over without uninsured damage with the RV, great admiration for automatic gearboxes with fluid coupling.
    I made the tourist round SF LA Las Vegas twice, but along different roads.
    Indian culture, quite a number of books, but of the SW
    Edward H. Spicer, 'Cycles of Conquest, The Impact of Spain, Mexico, and the United States of the Southwest', 1533 - 1960', Tucson, 1962, 1970
    Las Vegas, the best meal I ever had.
    Not cheap.
    Grand Canyon, on foot until Plateau Point, when I was again in our RV my idea was that I'd ruined my knees forever.
    Death Valley, going down there on a dirt road with an automatic gearbox and drum brakes, no great fun, engine braking just at 30MPH.
    Near Mammoth Lakes so much snow that we had to buy chains.
    Indian literature:
    ⦁ Paul Kane, 'Wanderings of an artist among the Indians of America', 1859, 1996, New York
    ⦁ Walker D. Wyman, ‘Nothing but prairie and Sky, Life on the Dakota Range in the Early Days’, 1954, University of Oklahoma
    ⦁ Margaret Irvin Carrington, ‘Absaraka, Home of the Crows, Experience of an officers wife on the Plains’, 1868, 1983 University of Nebraska
    ⦁ William Bartram, ed. Mark Van Doren, `Travels of William Bartram, Trough North & South Carolina, Georgia, East & West Florida, Cherokee, Muscogulges, Chataws’, 1791, 1955, New York
    ⦁ Hugh L. Willoughby, ‘Across the Everglades, A Canoe Journey of Exploration’, 1898, 1992, Port Salerno, Florida
    ⦁ Marjory Stoneman Douglas, ‘The Everglades: River of Grass’, 1947, 1995, Marietta, GA
    ⦁ J.W.Powell, ‘The exploration of the Colorado river and its canyons’, 1895, 1961, New York
    ⦁ Francis Parkman, ‘The Oregon trail’, New York, 2002, Boston, 1883, 1847
    Stan Hoig, "The Sand Creek Massacre', Oklahoma, 1961, 1982
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  • @AnonFromTN
    US NE looks funny to Europeans: a building constructed 100 years ago is considered old, whereas in countries that actually have history anything built in the last 300 years is considered new. One of the best thing about Americans is their sense of humor. In AZ you can buy a sign saying “On this spot 100 years ago nothing happened”. It describes most of the US.
    The nature is great in the West. I lived 6 years in AZ, we traveled every other weekend, always saw something new, and did not even exhaust all possibilities. The East is boring by comparison: from Atlantic to Chicago everything is the same, except near the coast the concentration of people is many times greater. Small towns in most of the Eastern US are best described “anywhere USA”. Appalachians in the East are considered mountains, whereas they are hills at best. But there is a lot more science in the East, whereas in the West only California has something to be proud of in this regard. Seattle in the only place in the WA state that has decent research.
    Modern US crossed out its pre-Columbian history, but you can tell where there is history by comparing art. In the East someone like Warhol is considered an artist, which shows well how barren the field actually is. In the West there is true art that clearly grew out of Indian traditions. Art is a good illustration of the old British joke: “there is nothing easier than creating a perfect English lawn - just sow the grass and mow it for 300 years”. Yet most of Europe accepted the US as its overlord. Looks like cultures also have their old age dementia.

    Anything white over fifty years old got a historical marker, when I visited the USA for the first time in 1978, the tourist trip, LA, SF, las Vegas.
    If anything astonished me it was Las Vegas.
    On the one hand why people want to go there, on the other the organisation, 24/7 ‘entertainment’ going on.
    SF looks European, LA is a disaster.
    Miami, when one speaks english one is discriminated, my wife speaks spanish reasonably, when she switched to that language she was welcome.
    Not far from Hyatville, a later trip, Seattle to Minneapolis, 30.000 years continued habitation was unearthed.
    When I visited the place there was hardly anything to see, a girl I asked said ‘yeah, the petroglyphs’.
    I saw them, and got some information in the visitor centre, a hut of maybe three by four metres.
    Yet there were Indian civilisations galore
    Walnut Creek is such a place.
    USA madness, Hearst Castle, and the Spanish monastery in Miami.
    Paul Kane, ‘Wanderings of an artist among the Indians of America’, 1859, 1996, New York
    Ronald Wright, ‘Stolen Continents, Conquest and Resistance in the Americas’, 1992, London
    But indeed the USA scenery is unbelievable when one comes from a country more and more resembling LA.
    But I think the Badlands impressed me most, huge areas with nothing.
    I was lucky in by accident entering at the back door, from the east.

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    Only downtown SF looks European (even Chinatown), if you go further afield or come to Oakland, it’s “anywhere USA” or worse.
    Personally, I like Las Vegas. It’s mindless entertainment that was not done on the cheap. If you know math and don’t gamble, it is also a bargain. I was there last time a few years ago and noticed that it is becoming more upscale. The fountain with classical music and light show in front of Bellagio, as well as their restaurant on the edge of that fountain, or the restaurant in Cosmopolitan with a view of that fountain, are pretty impressive (not cheap, though).
    I never was in Badlands, unfortunately. There are many stunning places in the West, including national parks, such as Bryce Canyon, Zion, Sequoia (worth visiting twice, in summer and in winter – it looks very different), Grand Canyon (you want to come from the South), Saguaro, Redwood, Yosemite, Arches, Canyonlands, Mesa Verde, etc. South Dakota is also worth seeing; in fact, Mount Rushmore is the least interesting thing there, but the vistas are very impressive and surprisingly beautiful. If you have time and inclination, you can drive from Phoenix to Las Vegas via Hoover Dam – the drive is as long as from Madrid to Warsaw, but the views are stunning. The absence of people and towns improves them. Just make sure you have full tank of gas North of I-10 and a gallon of water per person. Or you can drive from Phoenix to Grand Canyon via Petrified Forest and Painted Desert: everything North of Flagstaff looks like the Moon or Mars.
    In the East, I think only Mammoth Cave is worth visiting (both sides, so you want two tours that you need to book ahead to squeeze them into one day). You can also stay overnight in the motel inside the park and see deer coming close to your balcony in the evening.
    As to locals, you cannot expect high school dropouts you encounter at gas stations, fast food eateries, and near-highway motels to know history (or anything else, for that matter). They usually do the only thing they know how: serve you in those undemanding capacities.
    If you like Indian culture, you might enjoy reading Hillerman – all his stories are in AZ and NM, and although the stories themselves are rather simplistic, he conveys the spirit of the Indian country, Navaho and Pueblo Indians, pretty well. Gives you a different perspective on white culture.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    Not quite, I long ago drove from Seattle to Minneapolis, blue highways.
    What kind of people the farmers were was, I did not ask them, obvious to me.
    French farmers, like one sees French farms in France, Dutch or German, the same.
    Orange City, the Netherlands of the fifties, as Jonathan Raban describes in his book on how he went down the Missisippi, teaching evolution in Orange City, out of a job.
    The USA does have cultural differences, such as Chinatown in San Francisco.
    But I agree, in general, a hamburger culture.
    I must add that I never visited the NE, what interested me in the USA was the scenery, and USA history, history that most in the USA deny that it existed before white man entered.
    Yet USA history goes back at least 30.000 years.

    US NE looks funny to Europeans: a building constructed 100 years ago is considered old, whereas in countries that actually have history anything built in the last 300 years is considered new. One of the best thing about Americans is their sense of humor. In AZ you can buy a sign saying “On this spot 100 years ago nothing happened”. It describes most of the US.
    The nature is great in the West. I lived 6 years in AZ, we traveled every other weekend, always saw something new, and did not even exhaust all possibilities. The East is boring by comparison: from Atlantic to Chicago everything is the same, except near the coast the concentration of people is many times greater. Small towns in most of the Eastern US are best described “anywhere USA”. Appalachians in the East are considered mountains, whereas they are hills at best. But there is a lot more science in the East, whereas in the West only California has something to be proud of in this regard. Seattle in the only place in the WA state that has decent research.
    Modern US crossed out its pre-Columbian history, but you can tell where there is history by comparing art. In the East someone like Warhol is considered an artist, which shows well how barren the field actually is. In the West there is true art that clearly grew out of Indian traditions. Art is a good illustration of the old British joke: “there is nothing easier than creating a perfect English lawn – just sow the grass and mow it for 300 years”. Yet most of Europe accepted the US as its overlord. Looks like cultures also have their old age dementia.

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    Anything white over fifty years old got a historical marker, when I visited the USA for the first time in 1978, the tourist trip, LA, SF, las Vegas.
    If anything astonished me it was Las Vegas.
    On the one hand why people want to go there, on the other the organisation, 24/7 'entertainment' going on.
    SF looks European, LA is a disaster.
    Miami, when one speaks english one is discriminated, my wife speaks spanish reasonably, when she switched to that language she was welcome.
    Not far from Hyatville, a later trip, Seattle to Minneapolis, 30.000 years continued habitation was unearthed.
    When I visited the place there was hardly anything to see, a girl I asked said 'yeah, the petroglyphs'.
    I saw them, and got some information in the visitor centre, a hut of maybe three by four metres.
    Yet there were Indian civilisations galore
    Walnut Creek is such a place.
    USA madness, Hearst Castle, and the Spanish monastery in Miami.
    Paul Kane, 'Wanderings of an artist among the Indians of America', 1859, 1996, New York
    Ronald Wright, 'Stolen Continents, Conquest and Resistance in the Americas', 1992, London
    But indeed the USA scenery is unbelievable when one comes from a country more and more resembling LA.
    But I think the Badlands impressed me most, huge areas with nothing.
    I was lucky in by accident entering at the back door, from the east.
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  • How about Flight 370? Far more interesting and
    controversial.

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  • Some years ago as I became increasingly aware of the severe dishonesty of our mainstream media on all sorts of controversial topics, I began telling a joke to a few of my friends. Suppose, I would say, that I happened to be out walking one pleasant afternoon in Palo Alto, and suddenly heard a gigantic...
  • It was the ghost of Gen. Tojo, the wartime Japanese Prime Minister, who mind blanked the Navy person supposed to abort the navy missile. In the 80s I was in covert operations and well known to the agency. I also am an expert on the paranormal and a good exorcist. The navy had me read a book that said it had been shot down by a Navy missile, which surprised me. The government kept it secret because they had no idea what caused the missile to go arrant, a ghost? aliens? I exorcised the ghost of the Gen ( he was very evil) and informed the government, but they choose to keep it a secret.

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  • Last year I published Our American Pravda, making the case for the utter corruption and unreliability of the mainstream American media, both in the past and especially in recent years. The enormous lacunae I daily noticed in the pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and other leading media outlets were a...
  • Why on earth would Russia gain anything from shooting down the plane? Western sanctions assault on the Russian Federation had been ongoing for some time before this incident. The US is willing to kill its own people, ala 9/11. The deep state is malicious and dangerous and it is the alt internet that makes our use of same to glean information that we would never to see in the MSM. The US has been trying to provoke Russia into a war and Putin hasn’t taken the bait. The senseless idiots in the west don’t seem to realise that Russian nuclear weaponry is supperia to our own and life on earth would surely end; except for the wealthy elites who run our country who would be safe in our D.U.M.B’s

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  • @AnonFromTN
    Americans are a nationality in a political, but not in an ethnic sense. I always appreciated cultural variety of Europe. I liked the difference between France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Austria, Czech republic, Switzerland, UK, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, etc. It used to be that in Europe you drive a couple of hours and enter a different country with distinct language, culture, architecture, cuisine, etc (whereas in the US you drive six hours on a highway and see exactly the same red barn). So, I agree with you 100%. In fact, I am sad that because of EU bureaucracy Europe is committing suicide.

    Not quite, I long ago drove from Seattle to Minneapolis, blue highways.
    What kind of people the farmers were was, I did not ask them, obvious to me.
    French farmers, like one sees French farms in France, Dutch or German, the same.
    Orange City, the Netherlands of the fifties, as Jonathan Raban describes in his book on how he went down the Missisippi, teaching evolution in Orange City, out of a job.
    The USA does have cultural differences, such as Chinatown in San Francisco.
    But I agree, in general, a hamburger culture.
    I must add that I never visited the NE, what interested me in the USA was the scenery, and USA history, history that most in the USA deny that it existed before white man entered.
    Yet USA history goes back at least 30.000 years.

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    US NE looks funny to Europeans: a building constructed 100 years ago is considered old, whereas in countries that actually have history anything built in the last 300 years is considered new. One of the best thing about Americans is their sense of humor. In AZ you can buy a sign saying “On this spot 100 years ago nothing happened”. It describes most of the US.
    The nature is great in the West. I lived 6 years in AZ, we traveled every other weekend, always saw something new, and did not even exhaust all possibilities. The East is boring by comparison: from Atlantic to Chicago everything is the same, except near the coast the concentration of people is many times greater. Small towns in most of the Eastern US are best described “anywhere USA”. Appalachians in the East are considered mountains, whereas they are hills at best. But there is a lot more science in the East, whereas in the West only California has something to be proud of in this regard. Seattle in the only place in the WA state that has decent research.
    Modern US crossed out its pre-Columbian history, but you can tell where there is history by comparing art. In the East someone like Warhol is considered an artist, which shows well how barren the field actually is. In the West there is true art that clearly grew out of Indian traditions. Art is a good illustration of the old British joke: “there is nothing easier than creating a perfect English lawn - just sow the grass and mow it for 300 years”. Yet most of Europe accepted the US as its overlord. Looks like cultures also have their old age dementia.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    I think you are purposely conflating things that are not the same. Tried and true arguing technique: claim that your opponent said something nonsensical, then show how nonsensical it is.
    I am against open borders, I strongly believe that each country should keep its borders closed and should not fall for the ruse of “refugees”. I also believe that many EU countries are committing suicide by admitting lots of people with incompatible cultures. Besides, genuine refugees are usually women, children, and elderly (say, like Donbass refugees going to Russia). When the “refugees” are mostly able-bodied young males of draft age, they are not refugees, they are an invasion army. You can thank your EU bureaucracy for the surrender of Europe, which I used to like as a great vacation destination and will miss.
    My point is that people of all colors, religions (or lack thereof), and national origins can be smart or dumb, hard-working or lazy, law abiding or prone to breaking the law, etc. There is no correlation between any of these things with their color, nationality, or religion. What’s more, smart people change their ways to fit the prevailing culture of their country of residence. BTW, the US population (with the exception of Native Americans who survived genocide) is composed of a variety of immigrants. It used to be the strength of the country, before elites took over and imposed “political correctness”.

    Indeed:
    Eric Zemmour, ‘Le Suicide Francais’, 2014 Paris

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  • @jilles dykstra
    No idea what nationality you have, but if any nation is proud of itself, it is the USA.
    But nationalism has nothing to do with judging, or being proud.
    I'm a Dutch nationalist, I valued the country that existed, that my forefathers created.
    It no longer exists.
    Yet, half the year w're in France, and respect the French.
    They're different, but so what ?
    I respect them too for resisting the attempts to destroy the French culture.
    In any country I visited I respected the people and the culture, it is theirs, not mine.

    Americans are a nationality in a political, but not in an ethnic sense. I always appreciated cultural variety of Europe. I liked the difference between France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Austria, Czech republic, Switzerland, UK, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, etc. It used to be that in Europe you drive a couple of hours and enter a different country with distinct language, culture, architecture, cuisine, etc (whereas in the US you drive six hours on a highway and see exactly the same red barn). So, I agree with you 100%. In fact, I am sad that because of EU bureaucracy Europe is committing suicide.

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    Not quite, I long ago drove from Seattle to Minneapolis, blue highways.
    What kind of people the farmers were was, I did not ask them, obvious to me.
    French farmers, like one sees French farms in France, Dutch or German, the same.
    Orange City, the Netherlands of the fifties, as Jonathan Raban describes in his book on how he went down the Missisippi, teaching evolution in Orange City, out of a job.
    The USA does have cultural differences, such as Chinatown in San Francisco.
    But I agree, in general, a hamburger culture.
    I must add that I never visited the NE, what interested me in the USA was the scenery, and USA history, history that most in the USA deny that it existed before white man entered.
    Yet USA history goes back at least 30.000 years.
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  • @CanSpeccy

    I am just against any kind of nationalism
     
    Ah, so you won't mind if your neighborhood is settled by an influx of mosque-building, polygamous Muslims opposed to girls' education, or Africans practitioners of Voudoo, or Sikhs for a Sikh homeland. All good people no doubt, but more concerned with taking advantage of high American wages, cheap housing, reliable electrical supplies, etc. than in assimilating to American culture.

    You are, in other words, for open borders, even if that means American wages and the American standard of living converging with those of the Third World while America's social cohesion disintegrates, as tens and even hundreds of millions flood in across the borders in order to take advantage of America's prosperity created through the sweat and toil of the native born or their ancestors.

    I think you are purposely conflating things that are not the same. Tried and true arguing technique: claim that your opponent said something nonsensical, then show how nonsensical it is.
    I am against open borders, I strongly believe that each country should keep its borders closed and should not fall for the ruse of “refugees”. I also believe that many EU countries are committing suicide by admitting lots of people with incompatible cultures. Besides, genuine refugees are usually women, children, and elderly (say, like Donbass refugees going to Russia). When the “refugees” are mostly able-bodied young males of draft age, they are not refugees, they are an invasion army. You can thank your EU bureaucracy for the surrender of Europe, which I used to like as a great vacation destination and will miss.
    My point is that people of all colors, religions (or lack thereof), and national origins can be smart or dumb, hard-working or lazy, law abiding or prone to breaking the law, etc. There is no correlation between any of these things with their color, nationality, or religion. What’s more, smart people change their ways to fit the prevailing culture of their country of residence. BTW, the US population (with the exception of Native Americans who survived genocide) is composed of a variety of immigrants. It used to be the strength of the country, before elites took over and imposed “political correctness”.

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    Indeed:
    Eric Zemmour, 'Le Suicide Francais', 2014 Paris
    , @Philip Owen
    The Donbass refugees going to Russia were mostly young men. In Saratov, 2000 out of 3500, for example.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    I am not complaining, as antisemitism does not affect me in any way. I am just against any kind of nationalism, as my experience shows that judging people by their national or racial origin is simply stupid. Usually people who have no personal achievements to be proud of (simply put, losers) take pride in their nationality, religion, race, and similar things they acquired without personal effort.

    I am just against any kind of nationalism

    Ah, so you won’t mind if your neighborhood is settled by an influx of mosque-building, polygamous Muslims opposed to girls’ education, or Africans practitioners of Voudoo, or Sikhs for a Sikh homeland. All good people no doubt, but more concerned with taking advantage of high American wages, cheap housing, reliable electrical supplies, etc. than in assimilating to American culture.

    You are, in other words, for open borders, even if that means American wages and the American standard of living converging with those of the Third World while America’s social cohesion disintegrates, as tens and even hundreds of millions flood in across the borders in order to take advantage of America’s prosperity created through the sweat and toil of the native born or their ancestors.

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    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    I think you are purposely conflating things that are not the same. Tried and true arguing technique: claim that your opponent said something nonsensical, then show how nonsensical it is.
    I am against open borders, I strongly believe that each country should keep its borders closed and should not fall for the ruse of “refugees”. I also believe that many EU countries are committing suicide by admitting lots of people with incompatible cultures. Besides, genuine refugees are usually women, children, and elderly (say, like Donbass refugees going to Russia). When the “refugees” are mostly able-bodied young males of draft age, they are not refugees, they are an invasion army. You can thank your EU bureaucracy for the surrender of Europe, which I used to like as a great vacation destination and will miss.
    My point is that people of all colors, religions (or lack thereof), and national origins can be smart or dumb, hard-working or lazy, law abiding or prone to breaking the law, etc. There is no correlation between any of these things with their color, nationality, or religion. What’s more, smart people change their ways to fit the prevailing culture of their country of residence. BTW, the US population (with the exception of Native Americans who survived genocide) is composed of a variety of immigrants. It used to be the strength of the country, before elites took over and imposed “political correctness”.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    I am not complaining, as antisemitism does not affect me in any way. I am just against any kind of nationalism, as my experience shows that judging people by their national or racial origin is simply stupid. Usually people who have no personal achievements to be proud of (simply put, losers) take pride in their nationality, religion, race, and similar things they acquired without personal effort.

    No idea what nationality you have, but if any nation is proud of itself, it is the USA.
    But nationalism has nothing to do with judging, or being proud.
    I’m a Dutch nationalist, I valued the country that existed, that my forefathers created.
    It no longer exists.
    Yet, half the year w’re in France, and respect the French.
    They’re different, but so what ?
    I respect them too for resisting the attempts to destroy the French culture.
    In any country I visited I respected the people and the culture, it is theirs, not mine.

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    Americans are a nationality in a political, but not in an ethnic sense. I always appreciated cultural variety of Europe. I liked the difference between France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Austria, Czech republic, Switzerland, UK, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, etc. It used to be that in Europe you drive a couple of hours and enter a different country with distinct language, culture, architecture, cuisine, etc (whereas in the US you drive six hours on a highway and see exactly the same red barn). So, I agree with you 100%. In fact, I am sad that because of EU bureaucracy Europe is committing suicide.
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  • A year or two ago, I saw the much-touted science fiction film Interstellar, and although the plot wasn't any good, one early scene was quite amusing. For various reasons, the American government of the future claimed that our Moon Landings of the late 1960s had been faked, a trick aimed at winning the Cold War...
  • @CalDre
    Yeah, planes. Like the SR-71, which flies at 70,000 ft.

    Or satellites. Like an orbiting lunar lander.

    It was a simple question. You should try educating yourself instead of being content to be a smug ignoramus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrz6Ge1oD6w&t=99s

    Yeah, planes. Like the SR-71, which flies at 70,000 ft.

    Or satellites. Like an orbiting lunar lander.

    It was a simple question. You should try educating yourself instead of being content to be a smug ignoramus.

    In 1969, there were only two SR-71s operational. There were plans for six of them, and their purpose was the high-resolution mapping of the Soviet Union, which they had accomplished by ’72. I know this because my brother-in-law was a photographic technician for those spy flights. SR-71s are SPY planes. The first ones used specially adapted Nikon cameras with high-speed film advance, fitted to viewports from the aft cockpit. The technician replaced the film cartridges every 15 minutes.

    Speaking of “smug ignoramus”, how can two SR-71s undergo an emergency refit as signal relays, and how can they maintain, between the two of them, a GLOBALLY perceived radio vector that coincides with that of the Moon, from every location on Earth that could receive signals transmitted from said purported Moon-base? Tell me, how is that done? How do you violate every known law of electromagnetic physics to achieve such a goal? How?

    In 1969, I was a US Navy communications tech, known at the time as an “ETN1″. The base to which I was assigned monitored Apollo transmissions. Directional and omni antennas were used. I was THERE, Mr. Ignoramus, and I KNOW the vector was the Moon. And I know from simultaneous communications maintained for the mission that Nevada, Hawaii, Indian Ocean and other installations had DIFFERENT vectors, all computing to the Moon from their positions.

    You got that? When I read some pathetic conspiracy theory about how the Moon landings were faked, I know with absolute certainty that the proponent is an ignorant jackass who is spouting moronic bullshit.

    You got that? Now, go bullshit somebody else.

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  • Last year I published Our American Pravda, making the case for the utter corruption and unreliability of the mainstream American media, both in the past and especially in recent years. The enormous lacunae I daily noticed in the pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and other leading media outlets were a...
  • @jilles dykstra
    " Anti-Jewish pogroms were a long-standing tradition in much of what now is Ukraine. "

    Never heard of pro jewish pogroms.
    But the problem with you, and people like you, that they like complaining, but apparently never asked themselves why.
    Yet, Solsjenytsyn explains the why excellently in his book on jews in Russia since 1800.
    Jewry just had to blame themselves, harsh trading practices.

    I have the book, trying to find out if there exists a translation of his second book, jews in the USSR since 1917, to my surprise the cheapest book on sale, the first book, is some $ 70.
    This $ 70 is the german translation.
    Prices like this often indicate that books are bought up, to prevent that they are read.
    Cannot remember what I paid long ago, but I hardly ever pay more than € 20 for a book.

    Please do read
    ‘From prejudice to destruction’, Jacob Katz, 1980, Cambridge MA
    This jewish Israeli historian explains German antisemitism.
    He's the exception, all the others just 'explain' antisemitism by antisemitism.

    I am not complaining, as antisemitism does not affect me in any way. I am just against any kind of nationalism, as my experience shows that judging people by their national or racial origin is simply stupid. Usually people who have no personal achievements to be proud of (simply put, losers) take pride in their nationality, religion, race, and similar things they acquired without personal effort.

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    No idea what nationality you have, but if any nation is proud of itself, it is the USA.
    But nationalism has nothing to do with judging, or being proud.
    I'm a Dutch nationalist, I valued the country that existed, that my forefathers created.
    It no longer exists.
    Yet, half the year w're in France, and respect the French.
    They're different, but so what ?
    I respect them too for resisting the attempts to destroy the French culture.
    In any country I visited I respected the people and the culture, it is theirs, not mine.
    , @CanSpeccy

    I am just against any kind of nationalism
     
    Ah, so you won't mind if your neighborhood is settled by an influx of mosque-building, polygamous Muslims opposed to girls' education, or Africans practitioners of Voudoo, or Sikhs for a Sikh homeland. All good people no doubt, but more concerned with taking advantage of high American wages, cheap housing, reliable electrical supplies, etc. than in assimilating to American culture.

    You are, in other words, for open borders, even if that means American wages and the American standard of living converging with those of the Third World while America's social cohesion disintegrates, as tens and even hundreds of millions flood in across the borders in order to take advantage of America's prosperity created through the sweat and toil of the native born or their ancestors.

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  • This Monday, we watched as the Colorado Secretary of State accepted our petitions containing the signatures of some 140,000 registered voters in support of our initiative to replace bilingual education with English programs. With just 80,000 valid signatures being necessary, our measure is now virtually assured of a place on the November ballot. Auspiciously enough,...
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  • A year or two ago, I saw the much-touted science fiction film Interstellar, and although the plot wasn't any good, one early scene was quite amusing. For various reasons, the American government of the future claimed that our Moon Landings of the late 1960s had been faked, a trick aimed at winning the Cold War...
  • @Steve Gittelson

    Assuming you are telling the truth, if the signals were broadcast from “above”, how can you be sure they weren’t transmitted from satellites and/or planes?
     
    Satellites? The Great L-5 Conspiracy?

    Planes? ROFLMAOYIF.

    Thanks, I needed that.

    Yeah, planes. Like the SR-71, which flies at 70,000 ft.

    Or satellites. Like an orbiting lunar lander.

    It was a simple question. You should try educating yourself instead of being content to be a smug ignoramus.

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    Yeah, planes. Like the SR-71, which flies at 70,000 ft.

    Or satellites. Like an orbiting lunar lander.

    It was a simple question. You should try educating yourself instead of being content to be a smug ignoramus.
     
    In 1969, there were only two SR-71s operational. There were plans for six of them, and their purpose was the high-resolution mapping of the Soviet Union, which they had accomplished by '72. I know this because my brother-in-law was a photographic technician for those spy flights. SR-71s are SPY planes. The first ones used specially adapted Nikon cameras with high-speed film advance, fitted to viewports from the aft cockpit. The technician replaced the film cartridges every 15 minutes.

    Speaking of "smug ignoramus", how can two SR-71s undergo an emergency refit as signal relays, and how can they maintain, between the two of them, a GLOBALLY perceived radio vector that coincides with that of the Moon, from every location on Earth that could receive signals transmitted from said purported Moon-base? Tell me, how is that done? How do you violate every known law of electromagnetic physics to achieve such a goal? How?

    In 1969, I was a US Navy communications tech, known at the time as an "ETN1". The base to which I was assigned monitored Apollo transmissions. Directional and omni antennas were used. I was THERE, Mr. Ignoramus, and I KNOW the vector was the Moon. And I know from simultaneous communications maintained for the mission that Nevada, Hawaii, Indian Ocean and other installations had DIFFERENT vectors, all computing to the Moon from their positions.

    You got that? When I read some pathetic conspiracy theory about how the Moon landings were faked, I know with absolute certainty that the proponent is an ignorant jackass who is spouting moronic bullshit.

    You got that? Now, go bullshit somebody else.
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  • Some years ago as I became increasingly aware of the severe dishonesty of our mainstream media on all sorts of controversial topics, I began telling a joke to a few of my friends. Suppose, I would say, that I happened to be out walking one pleasant afternoon in Palo Alto, and suddenly heard a gigantic...
  • @Randal
    Such is life in a managed democracy.

    with the journalist and his wife even being arrested, prosecuted, and convicted for violating an obscure law enacted to prohibit bystanders from removing souvenirs from the scene of a disaster; the veteran CBS producer who accepted the material was vilified as a “conspiracy theorist” and soon forced out of her job, her career destroyed
     
    It's easy to skate over such details in these accounts, but they refer casually to catastrophic life disasters inflicted upon people seeking only to speak truth. These are gross abuses for which government and senior media and establishment figures have been directly responsible.

    As with so much else in the real world, one can only hope that the perpetrators will meet the justice after death which they are able to evade in this life, when their self-serving and hypocritical squeals about "the greater good" and "the national interest" will be treated with the contempt they deserve.

    We do indeed live in the Kingdom of Lies.

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  • Last year I published Our American Pravda, making the case for the utter corruption and unreliability of the mainstream American media, both in the past and especially in recent years. The enormous lacunae I daily noticed in the pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and other leading media outlets were a...
  • @AnonFromTN
    Well, if we are to dive into history, here are a few tidbits.
    Anti-Jewish pogroms were a long-standing tradition in much of what now is Ukraine.
    The first widespread case that came into stories and even literature (Shevchenko’s poem) was Haidamacks rebellion in 1648 (Google it, you can find a lot of info). Another well-known case was mass murder of Jews by Petlura’s regime in 1918-21. It was so atrocious, that when a Jew Shalom-Shmuel Schwarzbard murdered Petlura in Paris, the French court acquitted him in 1927, even though he confessed to the murder, citing as his reason that Petlura goons murdered his whole family and countless other Jews.
    All this was well before Bolsheviks took over Ukraine (what was Ukraine back then; they added a lot to it, including Donbass, some Southern parts, and Western Ukraine, which was among their crimes, in my view).
    BTW, In Volhynia during German occupation Ukrainian nationalists murdered Poles and mixed Polish-Ukrainian families, including women and children of all ages. Murdered brutally. You can see the pictures of the heinous crimes of Bandera followers all over the Internet. Here are a few examples (weak-hearted should not watch this)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiBPJnHbS_Y
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DsbKFoBfW4

    ” Anti-Jewish pogroms were a long-standing tradition in much of what now is Ukraine. ”

    Never heard of pro jewish pogroms.
    But the problem with you, and people like you, that they like complaining, but apparently never asked themselves why.
    Yet, Solsjenytsyn explains the why excellently in his book on jews in Russia since 1800.
    Jewry just had to blame themselves, harsh trading practices.

    I have the book, trying to find out if there exists a translation of his second book, jews in the USSR since 1917, to my surprise the cheapest book on sale, the first book, is some $ 70.
    This $ 70 is the german translation.
    Prices like this often indicate that books are bought up, to prevent that they are read.
    Cannot remember what I paid long ago, but I hardly ever pay more than € 20 for a book.

    Please do read
    ‘From prejudice to destruction’, Jacob Katz, 1980, Cambridge MA
    This jewish Israeli historian explains German antisemitism.
    He’s the exception, all the others just ‘explain’ antisemitism by antisemitism.

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    I am not complaining, as antisemitism does not affect me in any way. I am just against any kind of nationalism, as my experience shows that judging people by their national or racial origin is simply stupid. Usually people who have no personal achievements to be proud of (simply put, losers) take pride in their nationality, religion, race, and similar things they acquired without personal effort.
    , @englishmike

    Solsjenytsyn explains the why excellently in his book on jews in Russia since 1800.
    Jewry just had to blame themselves, harsh trading practices.
    I have the book, trying to find out if there exists a translation of his second book, jews in the USSR since 1917...
     
    The books you refer to are volumes 1 and 2 of Two Hundred Years Together, in his discussion of which, Adeyinka Makinde said this:

    The book was published in Russia amid fears that it would electrify anti-Semitic sentiment and present an opportunity to calumniate the Jews. It became a bestseller there, but in the more than a decade which has elapsed since then no English language translation materialised. The reluctance of the publishing industry to put into print a substantive work created by the winner of a Nobel Prize is a development that warrants close scrutiny.

    Solzhenitsyn: The Price of Blacklisting a Nobel Laureate’s Book
    By Adeyinka Makinde
    (published online as a free, 13-page, pdf download, 23 August 2013)

     

    I believe it is still the case that no official complete English translation has been produced by "the publishing industry". However, Makinde does say that

    The unavailability of Solzhenitsyn’s work in the English language has meant that the limited translations available have been facilitated by White nationalists who, largely disinterested [sic] in the first volume, have unsurprisingly focussed on the second where they are keen to give emphasis to those passages which can be projected in a manner to fit in with their views.
     
    In February 2017 The Occidental Observer site last year publicised one such "limited translation":

    There is a project to publish (long-overdue) translations of Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together. So far, they have posted Chapters 2, 3, 6, and 7, with more on the way. The website is: https://twohundredyearstogether.wordpress.com/ The translation reads very smoothly and seems quite professional.
     
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  • @smellyoilandgas.com
    I think the question of what is best for the world is best left to the 8 million that live in it; humanity should decide on its government every ten years.
    The nation state system fosters uncontrolled capitalism. The nation state system is a middle man between the global wealth of a very few and the slave poverty of the mass of 8 billion.. The problem with capitalism is that it is such a powerful system of economics nothing can block its path.
    Uncontrolled, capitalism is like the game of monopoly: in that game, payment is due to the capitalist owner at most landing spots on the playing board; unless the party landing on such spot already owns the spot landed on with each turn at play. In the end, the game of monopoly wipes out everyone; it transfers everyone's wealth to but one player, the winner. Everyone else is a broke worthless loser.
    Without internationally enforced rules that prevent powerful, large mega monopolies corporations (the public is unable to vote to change the corporate nature or to restructure by voting those Board of Directors who mange the mega-corporation) to reach the size of nation states and to amass the much more capital to burn than most nation states, nothing is going to change. Bottom up insistence that nations write laws to control the mega-capitalist powered, monopoly secured corporations go unheeded because no politicians or group of politicians is strong enough to write laws that the nations can enforce, hence mega corporations are virtually operating in a completely lawless environment { meaning mega corporations can do whatever they want }. There is no nation powerful enough to reel in many very large corporations; those certain few corporations own and enjoy the security from competition that monopolies guarantee in most of the extremely profitable markets in the world.
    No one, including Russia and China can expect to survive trying to compete against the masses of capital, the earning capacities and the wealth building power of monopolies. Monopolies rule the nation state law makers , not the other way around. If I were you, I would add to your list of possible MH-17 bashers several global corporations; the one's I have in mind, cannot be completely identified to a single nation in the world because they are so large they own the lawmakers, most of the assets and all of the earning power in many of the nations.
    One the 9/11 clouds is the possible corporate involvement.

    ” The nation state system fosters uncontrolled capitalism. ”

    What do you think the present strikes in France are for ?
    To prevent that uncontrolled capitalism is introduced in France.
    The French strikers know quite well that just the nation state can protect them.
    They fear privatization, and they’re right.

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  • I thought we established a few years back that the plane was taken down by Howard Stern:

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  • @smellyoilandgas.com
    I think the question of what is best for the world is best left to the 8 million that live in it; humanity should decide on its government every ten years.
    The nation state system fosters uncontrolled capitalism. The nation state system is a middle man between the global wealth of a very few and the slave poverty of the mass of 8 billion.. The problem with capitalism is that it is such a powerful system of economics nothing can block its path.
    Uncontrolled, capitalism is like the game of monopoly: in that game, payment is due to the capitalist owner at most landing spots on the playing board; unless the party landing on such spot already owns the spot landed on with each turn at play. In the end, the game of monopoly wipes out everyone; it transfers everyone's wealth to but one player, the winner. Everyone else is a broke worthless loser.
    Without internationally enforced rules that prevent powerful, large mega monopolies corporations (the public is unable to vote to change the corporate nature or to restructure by voting those Board of Directors who mange the mega-corporation) to reach the size of nation states and to amass the much more capital to burn than most nation states, nothing is going to change. Bottom up insistence that nations write laws to control the mega-capitalist powered, monopoly secured corporations go unheeded because no politicians or group of politicians is strong enough to write laws that the nations can enforce, hence mega corporations are virtually operating in a completely lawless environment { meaning mega corporations can do whatever they want }. There is no nation powerful enough to reel in many very large corporations; those certain few corporations own and enjoy the security from competition that monopolies guarantee in most of the extremely profitable markets in the world.
    No one, including Russia and China can expect to survive trying to compete against the masses of capital, the earning capacities and the wealth building power of monopolies. Monopolies rule the nation state law makers , not the other way around. If I were you, I would add to your list of possible MH-17 bashers several global corporations; the one's I have in mind, cannot be completely identified to a single nation in the world because they are so large they own the lawmakers, most of the assets and all of the earning power in many of the nations.
    One the 9/11 clouds is the possible corporate involvement.

    An interesting point.

    Now, there is another.
    Starting from:

    ….payment is due to the capitalist owner …

    what happens if the payment is not paid?
    We know what happens. The state enforces the law which demands the payment.
    Key word “enforces”.

    So, you are, maybe, correct, up to a point, but missing that “enforcement” element. For me, the key element.

    There is a mechnism to enforce that payment.
    Let’s follow it.
    International laws, international courts, then economic pressures…all nine yards.

    And when all that fails what happens: Regime change. The…”power projection mechanism” of West steps in. Cutting to the chase, US military.

    At the moment the enforcer of global capitalism is US military, when you think about it.
    Yes, I know it’s oversimplification but it is the core of all this.

    So, those multinationals do need an enforcer.

    True, ideally they’ll want some multiracial/multicultural force, as any preferable workforce today.
    The problem is…motivating people to kill, let alone die for something, demands a bit more than a paycheck and medical.
    And, at the moment, only the “blood and soil” provides that type of motivation.

    Even the modern empire’s military is based on US flag and US patriotism. That’s sort of (tragicomic) funny because the biggest losers in the current game are the troopers in that military, but let’s stick to the topic here.
    Second best, Russian, Russian flag and patriotism.
    Third, China…….
    Etc.

    So…things are a bit more complicated there than simply “corporations rule the world”.
    Just a little bit more.

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  • @Hepp
    Also, just to be clear, I detest American foreign policy and the way we are forcing the worst aspects of our culture onto the rest of the world. I also believe that Vladimir Putin's goals for the world, whatever the faults, are preferable to our Western leaders, whose deepest desire seems to be destroy the cultures of those they rule over. And as soon as I heard top American officials speaking up for "Pussy Riot," it's been hard for me to feel any kind of patriotism.

    That being said, you can be pro-Russia without having your IQ drop by 30 points. Wolferen even takes the Crimea referendum at face value. And the entire conspiracy theory about Ukraine fighter jets comes from a 50 second YouTube clip taken out of its proper context.

    I became suspicious when the pro-Russian posters here did not provide links for all this evidence they supposedly have. After a little investigation, I began to understand why.

    I think the question of what is best for the world is best left to the 8 million that live in it; humanity should decide on its government every ten years.
    The nation state system fosters uncontrolled capitalism. The nation state system is a middle man between the global wealth of a very few and the slave poverty of the mass of 8 billion.. The problem with capitalism is that it is such a powerful system of economics nothing can block its path.
    Uncontrolled, capitalism is like the game of monopoly: in that game, payment is due to the capitalist owner at most landing spots on the playing board; unless the party landing on such spot already owns the spot landed on with each turn at play. In the end, the game of monopoly wipes out everyone; it transfers everyone’s wealth to but one player, the winner. Everyone else is a broke worthless loser.
    Without internationally enforced rules that prevent powerful, large mega monopolies corporations (the public is unable to vote to change the corporate nature or to restructure by voting those Board of Directors who mange the mega-corporation) to reach the size of nation states and to amass the much more capital to burn than most nation states, nothing is going to change. Bottom up insistence that nations write laws to control the mega-capitalist powered, monopoly secured corporations go unheeded because no politicians or group of politicians is strong enough to write laws that the nations can enforce, hence mega corporations are virtually operating in a completely lawless environment { meaning mega corporations can do whatever they want }. There is no nation powerful enough to reel in many very large corporations; those certain few corporations own and enjoy the security from competition that monopolies guarantee in most of the extremely profitable markets in the world.
    No one, including Russia and China can expect to survive trying to compete against the masses of capital, the earning capacities and the wealth building power of monopolies. Monopolies rule the nation state law makers , not the other way around. If I were you, I would add to your list of possible MH-17 bashers several global corporations; the one’s I have in mind, cannot be completely identified to a single nation in the world because they are so large they own the lawmakers, most of the assets and all of the earning power in many of the nations.
    One the 9/11 clouds is the possible corporate involvement.

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    An interesting point.

    Now, there is another.
    Starting from:

    ....payment is due to the capitalist owner ...
     
    what happens if the payment is not paid?
    We know what happens. The state enforces the law which demands the payment.
    Key word "enforces".

    So, you are, maybe, correct, up to a point, but missing that "enforcement" element. For me, the key element.

    There is a mechnism to enforce that payment.
    Let's follow it.
    International laws, international courts, then economic pressures...all nine yards.

    And when all that fails what happens: Regime change. The..."power projection mechanism" of West steps in. Cutting to the chase, US military.

    At the moment the enforcer of global capitalism is US military, when you think about it.
    Yes, I know it's oversimplification but it is the core of all this.

    So, those multinationals do need an enforcer.

    True, ideally they'll want some multiracial/multicultural force, as any preferable workforce today.
    The problem is...motivating people to kill, let alone die for something, demands a bit more than a paycheck and medical.
    And, at the moment, only the "blood and soil" provides that type of motivation.

    Even the modern empire's military is based on US flag and US patriotism. That's sort of (tragicomic) funny because the biggest losers in the current game are the troopers in that military, but let's stick to the topic here.
    Second best, Russian, Russian flag and patriotism.
    Third, China.......
    Etc.

    So...things are a bit more complicated there than simply "corporations rule the world".
    Just a little bit more.
    , @jilles dykstra
    " The nation state system fosters uncontrolled capitalism. "

    What do you think the present strikes in France are for ?
    To prevent that uncontrolled capitalism is introduced in France.
    The French strikers know quite well that just the nation state can protect them.
    They fear privatization, and they're right.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    In order to see how it began read
    Voline ( Vsevolod Mikhailovitsch Eichenbaum), ‘The unknown revolution (Kronstadt 1921 Ukraine 1918-21)’, New York 1955
    Bolsjewist jews driving the Ukrainians from their farms.
    For an eye witness account of these people trying to sell a few left possessions at railway stations, in order to postpone death by hunger
    Morgan Philips Price (edited Tania Rose), ‘Dispatches from the Weimar Republic, Versailles and German Fascism’, London 1999
    Price travelled by train through the Ukraine.

    Well, if we are to dive into history, here are a few tidbits.
    Anti-Jewish pogroms were a long-standing tradition in much of what now is Ukraine.
    The first widespread case that came into stories and even literature (Shevchenko’s poem) was Haidamacks rebellion in 1648 (Google it, you can find a lot of info). Another well-known case was mass murder of Jews by Petlura’s regime in 1918-21. It was so atrocious, that when a Jew Shalom-Shmuel Schwarzbard murdered Petlura in Paris, the French court acquitted him in 1927, even though he confessed to the murder, citing as his reason that Petlura goons murdered his whole family and countless other Jews.
    All this was well before Bolsheviks took over Ukraine (what was Ukraine back then; they added a lot to it, including Donbass, some Southern parts, and Western Ukraine, which was among their crimes, in my view).
    BTW, In Volhynia during German occupation Ukrainian nationalists murdered Poles and mixed Polish-Ukrainian families, including women and children of all ages. Murdered brutally. You can see the pictures of the heinous crimes of Bandera followers all over the Internet. Here are a few examples (weak-hearted should not watch this)

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    " Anti-Jewish pogroms were a long-standing tradition in much of what now is Ukraine. "

    Never heard of pro jewish pogroms.
    But the problem with you, and people like you, that they like complaining, but apparently never asked themselves why.
    Yet, Solsjenytsyn explains the why excellently in his book on jews in Russia since 1800.
    Jewry just had to blame themselves, harsh trading practices.

    I have the book, trying to find out if there exists a translation of his second book, jews in the USSR since 1917, to my surprise the cheapest book on sale, the first book, is some $ 70.
    This $ 70 is the german translation.
    Prices like this often indicate that books are bought up, to prevent that they are read.
    Cannot remember what I paid long ago, but I hardly ever pay more than € 20 for a book.

    Please do read
    ‘From prejudice to destruction’, Jacob Katz, 1980, Cambridge MA
    This jewish Israeli historian explains German antisemitism.
    He's the exception, all the others just 'explain' antisemitism by antisemitism.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    " In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not."

    There was no war whatsoever.
    The USA crew deluded themselves into thinking there was one, by just looking at their screens.
    They were so nervous that just at the 23rd or so effort they could feed the correct code into the missile for firing.
    Why the USA ship was inside Iran's territorial waters has never been explained.
    The occasional firing with machine guns at tankers from Iranian rubber boats did no harm whatsoever, just a nuisance.

    Uhm…..ahm…..that

    ” In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not.”

    was related to the people who shot down THIS plane (Ukraine).

    So, my point was/is:
    A properly trained crew, in a peacetime, on US Aegis type cruiser, made a mistake.
    Again, a hastily organized crew of a separatist movement, in a middle of heavy conventional war, made a mistake.

    That’s for actual shooting down.

    The circus from then on, including prevalent attitude here, is another matter.

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  • @AnonFromTN
    Thanks, I did not know that. Now it all makes perfect sense. Croatian Ustaša were devout allies of Hitler in WWII, just like Western Ukrainian nationalists. Ustaše militia is well known for its atrocities that made even German Nazis blush (https://dirkdeklein.net/2016/06/16/ustase-the-fascists-that-made-the-nazis-look-like-boyscouts/). Again, exactly like Ukrainian OUN and its armed wing Ukrainian Insurgent Army. No wonder this personage supports the descendants and admirers of those “Ukrainians” who committed Volhynia massacre and weren’t even smart enough to hide their crimes, so that today Internet is full of pictures of Polish women and children brutally murdered by those monsters. Even Wiki has a well-illustrated page about Volhynia massacre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia).
    Ustaše are exactly like Bandera followers, the worst scum on the face of the Earth.

    In order to see how it began read
    Voline ( Vsevolod Mikhailovitsch Eichenbaum), ‘The unknown revolution (Kronstadt 1921 Ukraine 1918-21)’, New York 1955
    Bolsjewist jews driving the Ukrainians from their farms.
    For an eye witness account of these people trying to sell a few left possessions at railway stations, in order to postpone death by hunger
    Morgan Philips Price (edited Tania Rose), ‘Dispatches from the Weimar Republic, Versailles and German Fascism’, London 1999
    Price travelled by train through the Ukraine.

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    Well, if we are to dive into history, here are a few tidbits.
    Anti-Jewish pogroms were a long-standing tradition in much of what now is Ukraine.
    The first widespread case that came into stories and even literature (Shevchenko’s poem) was Haidamacks rebellion in 1648 (Google it, you can find a lot of info). Another well-known case was mass murder of Jews by Petlura’s regime in 1918-21. It was so atrocious, that when a Jew Shalom-Shmuel Schwarzbard murdered Petlura in Paris, the French court acquitted him in 1927, even though he confessed to the murder, citing as his reason that Petlura goons murdered his whole family and countless other Jews.
    All this was well before Bolsheviks took over Ukraine (what was Ukraine back then; they added a lot to it, including Donbass, some Southern parts, and Western Ukraine, which was among their crimes, in my view).
    BTW, In Volhynia during German occupation Ukrainian nationalists murdered Poles and mixed Polish-Ukrainian families, including women and children of all ages. Murdered brutally. You can see the pictures of the heinous crimes of Bandera followers all over the Internet. Here are a few examples (weak-hearted should not watch this)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiBPJnHbS_Y
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DsbKFoBfW4
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  • @yurivku
    This probably again not for peter, but for everybody including me.

    I deeply resent that Nazis turned what could have been a decent country into a shithole.
     
    Dont't agree with "could have been a decent country " Ukrain never been and never will be a decent one. Just because it's made artificially from a piece of shit by Austrian and Germand hands.
    But peter is a Croat AFAIK which also made by Germans from shitty serbs, so Uki's Nazis are relaives to him.

    Thanks, I did not know that. Now it all makes perfect sense. Croatian Ustaša were devout allies of Hitler in WWII, just like Western Ukrainian nationalists. Ustaše militia is well known for its atrocities that made even German Nazis blush (https://dirkdeklein.net/2016/06/16/ustase-the-fascists-that-made-the-nazis-look-like-boyscouts/). Again, exactly like Ukrainian OUN and its armed wing Ukrainian Insurgent Army. No wonder this personage supports the descendants and admirers of those “Ukrainians” who committed Volhynia massacre and weren’t even smart enough to hide their crimes, so that today Internet is full of pictures of Polish women and children brutally murdered by those monsters. Even Wiki has a well-illustrated page about Volhynia massacre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia).
    Ustaše are exactly like Bandera followers, the worst scum on the face of the Earth.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    In order to see how it began read
    Voline ( Vsevolod Mikhailovitsch Eichenbaum), ‘The unknown revolution (Kronstadt 1921 Ukraine 1918-21)’, New York 1955
    Bolsjewist jews driving the Ukrainians from their farms.
    For an eye witness account of these people trying to sell a few left possessions at railway stations, in order to postpone death by hunger
    Morgan Philips Price (edited Tania Rose), ‘Dispatches from the Weimar Republic, Versailles and German Fascism’, London 1999
    Price travelled by train through the Ukraine.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    Sorry to disappoint again, but my mission is my day job. It is very interesting and satisfying. Very successful both scientifically and career-vise. But my job makes me very intolerant: I can’t stand BS from colleagues, grad students, and propaganda alike.
    As to Ukraine, I was born and grew up there, and I speak better Ukrainian than most self-proclaimed “patriots”. I deeply resent that Nazis turned what could have been a decent country into a shithole.

    This probably again not for peter, but for everybody including me.

    I deeply resent that Nazis turned what could have been a decent country into a shithole.

    Dont’t agree with “could have been a decent country ” Ukrain never been and never will be a decent one. Just because it’s made artificially from a piece of shit by Austrian and Germand hands.
    But peter is a Croat AFAIK which also made by Germans from shitty serbs, so Uki’s Nazis are relaives to him.

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    Thanks, I did not know that. Now it all makes perfect sense. Croatian Ustaša were devout allies of Hitler in WWII, just like Western Ukrainian nationalists. Ustaše militia is well known for its atrocities that made even German Nazis blush (https://dirkdeklein.net/2016/06/16/ustase-the-fascists-that-made-the-nazis-look-like-boyscouts/). Again, exactly like Ukrainian OUN and its armed wing Ukrainian Insurgent Army. No wonder this personage supports the descendants and admirers of those “Ukrainians” who committed Volhynia massacre and weren’t even smart enough to hide their crimes, so that today Internet is full of pictures of Polish women and children brutally murdered by those monsters. Even Wiki has a well-illustrated page about Volhynia massacre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia).
    Ustaše are exactly like Bandera followers, the worst scum on the face of the Earth.
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  • @peterAUS
    Yeah......

    In meantime, for the minority here (mature and/or reading a bit of history, say, 5 %):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents
    especially:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
    US Navy Cruiser, Aegis type, during peace, made a mistake.
    In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not.

    That's for the shooting.
    Now, the "fallout" from the shooting is another matter altogether and something definitely highly politicized against Russia.

    The only which interests me here is the inability of interested public to get the truth. Even in this era of instant communication and access to all sorts of data and computing power, when it really matters, public is helpless.

    Addressing that could, maybe, be somewhat productive here.

    And those who spout they know how about this: would you sign a death sentence against the crew that did it? You sign it with full confidence and they'll get executed 2 hours later. If you can that's another interesting thing around here.

    ” In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not.”

    There was no war whatsoever.
    The USA crew deluded themselves into thinking there was one, by just looking at their screens.
    They were so nervous that just at the 23rd or so effort they could feed the correct code into the missile for firing.
    Why the USA ship was inside Iran’s territorial waters has never been explained.
    The occasional firing with machine guns at tankers from Iranian rubber boats did no harm whatsoever, just a nuisance.

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    Uhm.....ahm.....that

    ” In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not.”
     
    was related to the people who shot down THIS plane (Ukraine).

    So, my point was/is:
    A properly trained crew, in a peacetime, on US Aegis type cruiser, made a mistake.
    Again, a hastily organized crew of a separatist movement, in a middle of heavy conventional war, made a mistake.

    That's for actual shooting down.

    The circus from then on, including prevalent attitude here, is another matter.
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  • @Rurik

    There are three possibilities:
    1 rebels shot, our thought they shot, at an Ukrainian bomber, and hit a passenger plane
    2 a Ukrainian bomber used the passenger plane as shield, in the expectation that the rebels would not fire
    3 a western plane deliberately shot down the plane, possibly a stealth plane.
     
    no, there is only one possibility, and that is that a Ukrainian jet shot down MH17, because no other scenario can account for the OBVIOUS bullet holes to the cockpit of the plane.

    The western interest at the time was clear, the Netherlands objected most to sanctions, our export to Russia.
    The 300 deaths changed that literally overnight.
     
    good point,

    only it's worth pointing out that these zio-interests - to destroy Iraq and Libya and now Syria

    are all evils that in no way benefit the actual people or institutions of the West, hardly.

    Rather it's a catastrophe for the people of the West, that these evils are being perpetrated in their name, by the zio-scum who hold our governments hostage.

    So let's just remember, when you say 'the west', what you're referring to is the zio-west, which is the enemy of the actual West.

    It doesn't serve the West to be at odds with Russia. Just the opposite. It's doesn't serve the people of the West to be at war with Muslim nations. Just the opposite.

    So the same forces in the world that have destroyed Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan and Donbas and tried to destroy Syria utterly before Putin heroically came to its aid, are the same forces trying to destroy the West as well, with mass-immigration and everything else ((they)) can think of to sow hatred and strife. ((Their)) calling cards.

    Rutte told Asscher that the Russian had to be blamed.
     
    no doubt

    The asserted BUK is, they say, not to be seen,
     
    a BUK missle leaves a distinctive trail that would have been visible for a long time on that clear day.

    https://mh17scenario5.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/buk-launch.jpg

    no such trail was witnessed or photographed. There was no BUK. MH17 was shot down with air to air 30 caliber machine gun fire from a Sukhoi Su-25, flown by the Ukrainian air force. They may have also used air to air anti-aircraft missiles. But there's no doubt about the machine gun bullet holes, which are obvious.

    Those who followed the murder of Bin Laden in Abottabad know that the USA used a helicopter there invisible for Pakistani military radar.
     
    the account of the killing (and secret burial with zero proof) of Osama is patently absurd.

    How in God's name anyone would believe the zio-western press and government liars who lie to us every time they talk, about something like the killing of Osama, with not even a photo, other than the fake ones they got caught putting out, is beyond me.

    Do you also believe that Putin killed that spy in England recently?

    Do you believe that Assad used chemical weapons against his own people?

    Do you believe that Saddam's soldiers were tossing babies out of incubators?

    do you believe that Saddam had WMD?

    Do you believe that Osama did 9/11?

    do you believe that 'they hate us for our freedom'?

    ” Do you believe that Saddam’s soldiers were tossing babies out of incubators? ”

    This propaganda tale has been debunked.
    About the bullet holes in MH17, a bit more complicated.
    A BUK does not have to hit, in the vicinity of the target it shoots a lot of projectiles, shrapnel, resembling bullets, on the target.
    The interesting point here is that the BUK did what a fighter pilot would have done, kill the crew, in order to prevent that a mayday with specifics could be sent.

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  • In mid-March, the Wall Street Journal carried a long discussion of the origins of the Bretton Woods system, the international financial framework that governed the Western world for decades after World War II. A photo showed the two individuals who negotiated that agreement. Britain was represented by John Maynard Keynes, a towering economic figure of...
  • @philhellenic
    " Iraq’s nonexistent WMDs posed a deadly national threat and required elimination by war and invasion."

    I remained unconvinced. Almost EVERYBODY believed Saddam had WMD. I wish someone, clear headed and unbiased - could definitely prove that we attacked Iraq knowing that he had no WMD. What is the truth?

    You might google a woman named, ‘Susan Lindauer’. She was a CIA asset, based in NY looking after the Iraq ‘desk’. She had word of 911 before it occurred and was under instructions to put the fear of God into Iraqi officials, unless they played ball with the US their country would be returned to the stone age.

    I read her account of what happened years ago, simply breathtaking, no-one could simply make up what happened to her.

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  • Brilliant essay, especially the ending!

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  • Last year I published Our American Pravda, making the case for the utter corruption and unreliability of the mainstream American media, both in the past and especially in recent years. The enormous lacunae I daily noticed in the pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and other leading media outlets were a...
  • @Ron Unz

    Whoever that personage is, a lot of honest people read these comments.
     
    That's certainly correct. I'd estimate that 95% of readers do not themselves write comments, so to the extent that someone is trying to "persuade" people rather than just spouting off, that's the audience you should be targeting.

    To the extent that some commenters are just "trolls" making weak, "trollish" arguments, you can consider them as ideal punching-bags, allowing you to convincingly present your own opinion against a feeble sparring partner, and thereby make it much more likely you'll persuade the much larger number of other casual readers.

    This website has some of the best comments on the Internet. I learn more from the comments than from the articles.

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  • @peterAUS
    Scientific mind for sure at works here. You know, reading carefully, checking/rechecking facts etc.

    In that first link
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents
    there is
    7.1 2001 Siberia Airlines Flight 1812

    That's fine.
    I recognize a guy on a mission.

    Good luck.

    Sorry to disappoint again, but my mission is my day job. It is very interesting and satisfying. Very successful both scientifically and career-vise. But my job makes me very intolerant: I can’t stand BS from colleagues, grad students, and propaganda alike.
    As to Ukraine, I was born and grew up there, and I speak better Ukrainian than most self-proclaimed “patriots”. I deeply resent that Nazis turned what could have been a decent country into a shithole.

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    This probably again not for peter, but for everybody including me.

    I deeply resent that Nazis turned what could have been a decent country into a shithole.
     
    Dont't agree with "could have been a decent country " Ukrain never been and never will be a decent one. Just because it's made artificially from a piece of shit by Austrian and Germand hands.
    But peter is a Croat AFAIK which also made by Germans from shitty serbs, so Uki's Nazis are relaives to him.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    If you are such a fan of Wiki, here is the Wiki page about the first civilian aircraft shot down by Ukraine, back in 2001, when Ukrainian oligarchs controlled the presidency, but before an oligarch actually became President:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812
    In that case Ukrainian authorities also denied their crime for years.
    As the joke goes, Ukraine is the only country on Earth that shot down two civilian aircraft and not a single military one.

    Scientific mind for sure at works here. You know, reading carefully, checking/rechecking facts etc.

    In that first link

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents

    there is
    7.1 2001 Siberia Airlines Flight 1812

    That’s fine.
    I recognize a guy on a mission.

    Good luck.

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    Sorry to disappoint again, but my mission is my day job. It is very interesting and satisfying. Very successful both scientifically and career-vise. But my job makes me very intolerant: I can’t stand BS from colleagues, grad students, and propaganda alike.
    As to Ukraine, I was born and grew up there, and I speak better Ukrainian than most self-proclaimed “patriots”. I deeply resent that Nazis turned what could have been a decent country into a shithole.
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  • @peterAUS
    Yeah......

    In meantime, for the minority here (mature and/or reading a bit of history, say, 5 %):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents
    especially:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
    US Navy Cruiser, Aegis type, during peace, made a mistake.
    In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not.

    That's for the shooting.
    Now, the "fallout" from the shooting is another matter altogether and something definitely highly politicized against Russia.

    The only which interests me here is the inability of interested public to get the truth. Even in this era of instant communication and access to all sorts of data and computing power, when it really matters, public is helpless.

    Addressing that could, maybe, be somewhat productive here.

    And those who spout they know how about this: would you sign a death sentence against the crew that did it? You sign it with full confidence and they'll get executed 2 hours later. If you can that's another interesting thing around here.

    If you are such a fan of Wiki, here is the Wiki page about the first civilian aircraft shot down by Ukraine, back in 2001, when Ukrainian oligarchs controlled the presidency, but before an oligarch actually became President:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812

    In that case Ukrainian authorities also denied their crime for years.
    As the joke goes, Ukraine is the only country on Earth that shot down two civilian aircraft and not a single military one.

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    Scientific mind for sure at works here. You know, reading carefully, checking/rechecking facts etc.

    In that first link
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents
    there is
    7.1 2001 Siberia Airlines Flight 1812

    That's fine.
    I recognize a guy on a mission.

    Good luck.
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  • @Ron Unz

    Whoever that personage is, a lot of honest people read these comments.
     
    That's certainly correct. I'd estimate that 95% of readers do not themselves write comments, so to the extent that someone is trying to "persuade" people rather than just spouting off, that's the audience you should be targeting.

    To the extent that some commenters are just "trolls" making weak, "trollish" arguments, you can consider them as ideal punching-bags, allowing you to convincingly present your own opinion against a feeble sparring partner, and thereby make it much more likely you'll persuade the much larger number of other casual readers.

    Yeah……

    In meantime, for the minority here (mature and/or reading a bit of history, say, 5 %):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents

    especially:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

    US Navy Cruiser, Aegis type, during peace, made a mistake.
    In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not.

    That’s for the shooting.
    Now, the “fallout” from the shooting is another matter altogether and something definitely highly politicized against Russia.

    The only which interests me here is the inability of interested public to get the truth. Even in this era of instant communication and access to all sorts of data and computing power, when it really matters, public is helpless.

    Addressing that could, maybe, be somewhat productive here.

    And those who spout they know how about this: would you sign a death sentence against the crew that did it? You sign it with full confidence and they’ll get executed 2 hours later. If you can that’s another interesting thing around here.

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    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    If you are such a fan of Wiki, here is the Wiki page about the first civilian aircraft shot down by Ukraine, back in 2001, when Ukrainian oligarchs controlled the presidency, but before an oligarch actually became President:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812
    In that case Ukrainian authorities also denied their crime for years.
    As the joke goes, Ukraine is the only country on Earth that shot down two civilian aircraft and not a single military one.
    , @jilles dykstra
    " In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not."

    There was no war whatsoever.
    The USA crew deluded themselves into thinking there was one, by just looking at their screens.
    They were so nervous that just at the 23rd or so effort they could feed the correct code into the missile for firing.
    Why the USA ship was inside Iran's territorial waters has never been explained.
    The occasional firing with machine guns at tankers from Iranian rubber boats did no harm whatsoever, just a nuisance.
    , @Anonymous
    Good post. I wonder how many people who claim to “know” exactly what happened in instances such as the Syrian gas attacks and the airliner downing over Ukraine, where there are conflicting stories and propaganda from two or more players creating elaborate tales for the faithful to “debunk”, would bet their life against a Magic Truth Machine. So if the Truth Machine validates a theory as correct they win a nice prize, but if the theory is wrong they pay with their life.

    My guess is not many would do so. Most people pick a side like they pick a sports team that appeals to them and stay with that side regardless of what the evidence reveals or does not reveal. It’s just a game of tribal bullshitting and posturing on the internet.

    With no risk to life or limb and nothing important at stake it’s easy to confidently construct “truths” based on cherry picked “facts” that line up with ones geopolitical sympathies.

    With some skin in the game I confidently predict that would change :-)
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  • @AnonFromTN
    Whoever that personage is, a lot of honest people read these comments. So, even if arguing with that person makes as much sense as having a heart-to-heart conversation with a lamppost, it still makes sense to present arguments for the sake of other readers.

    Whoever that personage is, a lot of honest people read these comments.

    That’s certainly correct. I’d estimate that 95% of readers do not themselves write comments, so to the extent that someone is trying to “persuade” people rather than just spouting off, that’s the audience you should be targeting.

    To the extent that some commenters are just “trolls” making weak, “trollish” arguments, you can consider them as ideal punching-bags, allowing you to convincingly present your own opinion against a feeble sparring partner, and thereby make it much more likely you’ll persuade the much larger number of other casual readers.

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    Yeah......

    In meantime, for the minority here (mature and/or reading a bit of history, say, 5 %):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents
    especially:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
    US Navy Cruiser, Aegis type, during peace, made a mistake.
    In this case a hastily organized crew in a middle of heavy conventional war apparently could not.

    That's for the shooting.
    Now, the "fallout" from the shooting is another matter altogether and something definitely highly politicized against Russia.

    The only which interests me here is the inability of interested public to get the truth. Even in this era of instant communication and access to all sorts of data and computing power, when it really matters, public is helpless.

    Addressing that could, maybe, be somewhat productive here.

    And those who spout they know how about this: would you sign a death sentence against the crew that did it? You sign it with full confidence and they'll get executed 2 hours later. If you can that's another interesting thing around here.

    , @Oldtradesman
    This website has some of the best comments on the Internet. I learn more from the comments than from the articles.
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  • Some years ago as I became increasingly aware of the severe dishonesty of our mainstream media on all sorts of controversial topics, I began telling a joke to a few of my friends. Suppose, I would say, that I happened to be out walking one pleasant afternoon in Palo Alto, and suddenly heard a gigantic...
  • I know people who live on Long Island, including one guy who loaded baggage for that flight, simultaneously playing peek-a-boo with a cranky baby and laughing at how hyper the students going to France were. They have never stopped suspecting a cover-up, and the guy who worked for T-way has nightmares about whether he missed something when he was loading. He has to feel guilty, because the Ministry of Truth won’t own up.

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  • @yurivku
    Sorry, but do you really can't see who you are arguing with? This is payable or sincere, but certainly a player of anti-Russia team, whatever the truth is he'll stick to that line.
    He did not give a chance to doubt it.

    Whoever that personage is, a lot of honest people read these comments. So, even if arguing with that person makes as much sense as having a heart-to-heart conversation with a lamppost, it still makes sense to present arguments for the sake of other readers.

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    • Replies: @Ron Unz

    Whoever that personage is, a lot of honest people read these comments.
     
    That's certainly correct. I'd estimate that 95% of readers do not themselves write comments, so to the extent that someone is trying to "persuade" people rather than just spouting off, that's the audience you should be targeting.

    To the extent that some commenters are just "trolls" making weak, "trollish" arguments, you can consider them as ideal punching-bags, allowing you to convincingly present your own opinion against a feeble sparring partner, and thereby make it much more likely you'll persuade the much larger number of other casual readers.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    There are three possibilities:
    1 rebels shot, our thought they shot, at an Ukrainian bomber, and hit a passenger plane
    2 a Ukrainian bomber used the passenger plane as shield, in the expectation that the rebels would not fire
    3 a western plane deliberately shot down the plane, possibly a stealth plane.
    That the plane was ordered to fly lower by Kiev air control might support the last two possibilities.

    In any case, neither the rebels, nor the Russians had any interest in shooting down the plane.
    The western interest at the time was clear, the Netherlands objected most to sanctions, our export to Russia.
    The 300 deaths changed that literally overnight.

    What never has been explained was the telephone call from prime minister Rutte to vice prime minister Asscher, at the time on holiday on vacation in the south of France.
    Rutte phoned Asscher on his mobile, but asked him to call back on a land line 'so that the Russians could not listen in'.
    What at the afternoon of the crash was so secret that the Russians were not allowed to hear, I have just the suspicion that Rutte told Asscher that the Russian had to be blamed.

    The Dutch investigation, with suspect Ukraine, drags on until now.
    Here my suspicion is that that is the objective, continuing with vague accusations against Russia, but never something concrete.
    Two unnamed experts just investigated Russian radar tapes, and came to a different conclusion than Russia.
    The asserted BUK is, they say, not to be seen, alas, this means very little, a BUK goes so fast that ordinary radar does not pick it up, the antenna rotates too slowly, people who might know, say.
    Radar of course also does not pick up a stealth plane.

    Those who followed the murder of Bin Laden in Abottabad know that the USA used a helicopter there invisible for Pakistani military radar.
    This became known beecause the helicopter crashed, and Pakistan allowed Chinese technicians to examine it.
    I suspect this helicopter had active stealth, that is, it neutralises radar pulses that are received.

    But monuments and remembrances all over the place.

    BTW, theory 2 seems to be in a top secret Australian report on the disaster.

    There are three possibilities:
    1 rebels shot, our thought they shot, at an Ukrainian bomber, and hit a passenger plane
    2 a Ukrainian bomber used the passenger plane as shield, in the expectation that the rebels would not fire
    3 a western plane deliberately shot down the plane, possibly a stealth plane.

    no, there is only one possibility, and that is that a Ukrainian jet shot down MH17, because no other scenario can account for the OBVIOUS bullet holes to the cockpit of the plane.

    The western interest at the time was clear, the Netherlands objected most to sanctions, our export to Russia.
    The 300 deaths changed that literally overnight.

    good point,

    only it’s worth pointing out that these zio-interests – to destroy Iraq and Libya and now Syria

    are all evils that in no way benefit the actual people or institutions of the West, hardly.

    Rather it’s a catastrophe for the people of the West, that these evils are being perpetrated in their name, by the zio-scum who hold our governments hostage.

    So let’s just remember, when you say ‘the west’, what you’re referring to is the zio-west, which is the enemy of the actual West.

    It doesn’t serve the West to be at odds with Russia. Just the opposite. It’s doesn’t serve the people of the West to be at war with Muslim nations. Just the opposite.

    So the same forces in the world that have destroyed Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan and Donbas and tried to destroy Syria utterly before Putin heroically came to its aid, are the same forces trying to destroy the West as well, with mass-immigration and everything else ((they)) can think of to sow hatred and strife. ((Their)) calling cards.

    Rutte told Asscher that the Russian had to be blamed.

    no doubt

    The asserted BUK is, they say, not to be seen,

    a BUK missle leaves a distinctive trail that would have been visible for a long time on that clear day.

    no such trail was witnessed or photographed. There was no BUK. MH17 was shot down with air to air 30 caliber machine gun fire from a Sukhoi Su-25, flown by the Ukrainian air force. They may have also used air to air anti-aircraft missiles. But there’s no doubt about the machine gun bullet holes, which are obvious.

    Those who followed the murder of Bin Laden in Abottabad know that the USA used a helicopter there invisible for Pakistani military radar.

    the account of the killing (and secret burial with zero proof) of Osama is patently absurd.

    How in God’s name anyone would believe the zio-western press and government liars who lie to us every time they talk, about something like the killing of Osama, with not even a photo, other than the fake ones they got caught putting out, is beyond me.

    Do you also believe that Putin killed that spy in England recently?

    Do you believe that Assad used chemical weapons against his own people?

    Do you believe that Saddam’s soldiers were tossing babies out of incubators?

    do you believe that Saddam had WMD?

    Do you believe that Osama did 9/11?

    do you believe that ‘they hate us for our freedom’?

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    " Do you believe that Saddam’s soldiers were tossing babies out of incubators? "

    This propaganda tale has been debunked.
    About the bullet holes in MH17, a bit more complicated.
    A BUK does not have to hit, in the vicinity of the target it shoots a lot of projectiles, shrapnel, resembling bullets, on the target.
    The interesting point here is that the BUK did what a fighter pilot would have done, kill the crew, in order to prevent that a mayday with specifics could be sent.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    Laughable arguments.
    1. If anyone on the US/Ukraine side saw on their screens anything that could place the blame on Donbass freedom fighters and/or Russia, they would have presented their evidence straight away. The US and its vassals (e.g., UK) go into lengthy hysterics even when they have no evidence whatsoever (US elections in 2016, Skripal affair, etc).
    2. The US was so eager to hide its surveillance capabilities that Kerry blabbered about it from the get go. Then presented zilch. Very believable.
    3. If Malaysia was excluded to make the investigation impartial, than Ukraine, Netherlands, Australia, and UK should have been excluded, as well. The investigation should have been conducted by a party who has no stake in the matter. Instead, it is conducted by one of the prime suspects and countries who lost citizens in that crash. For four years! With non-disclosure agreement, to boot. Inspires lots of confidence.
    I am sure your responses to the rest would be just as “convincing”.

    Sorry, but do you really can’t see who you are arguing with? This is payable or sincere, but certainly a player of anti-Russia team, whatever the truth is he’ll stick to that line.
    He did not give a chance to doubt it.

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    Whoever that personage is, a lot of honest people read these comments. So, even if arguing with that person makes as much sense as having a heart-to-heart conversation with a lamppost, it still makes sense to present arguments for the sake of other readers.
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  • There are three possibilities:
    1 rebels shot, our thought they shot, at an Ukrainian bomber, and hit a passenger plane
    2 a Ukrainian bomber used the passenger plane as shield, in the expectation that the rebels would not fire
    3 a western plane deliberately shot down the plane, possibly a stealth plane.
    That the plane was ordered to fly lower by Kiev air control might support the last two possibilities.

    In any case, neither the rebels, nor the Russians had any interest in shooting down the plane.
    The western interest at the time was clear, the Netherlands objected most to sanctions, our export to Russia.
    The 300 deaths changed that literally overnight.

    What never has been explained was the telephone call from prime minister Rutte to vice prime minister Asscher, at the time on holiday on vacation in the south of France.
    Rutte phoned Asscher on his mobile, but asked him to call back on a land line ‘so that the Russians could not listen in’.
    What at the afternoon of the crash was so secret that the Russians were not allowed to hear, I have just the suspicion that Rutte told Asscher that the Russian had to be blamed.

    The Dutch investigation, with suspect Ukraine, drags on until now.
    Here my suspicion is that that is the objective, continuing with vague accusations against Russia, but never something concrete.
    Two unnamed experts just investigated Russian radar tapes, and came to a different conclusion than Russia.
    The asserted BUK is, they say, not to be seen, alas, this means very little, a BUK goes so fast that ordinary radar does not pick it up, the antenna rotates too slowly, people who might know, say.
    Radar of course also does not pick up a stealth plane.

    Those who followed the murder of Bin Laden in Abottabad know that the USA used a helicopter there invisible for Pakistani military radar.
    This became known beecause the helicopter crashed, and Pakistan allowed Chinese technicians to examine it.
    I suspect this helicopter had active stealth, that is, it neutralises radar pulses that are received.

    But monuments and remembrances all over the place.

    BTW, theory 2 seems to be in a top secret Australian report on the disaster.

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    • Replies: @Rurik

    There are three possibilities:
    1 rebels shot, our thought they shot, at an Ukrainian bomber, and hit a passenger plane
    2 a Ukrainian bomber used the passenger plane as shield, in the expectation that the rebels would not fire
    3 a western plane deliberately shot down the plane, possibly a stealth plane.
     
    no, there is only one possibility, and that is that a Ukrainian jet shot down MH17, because no other scenario can account for the OBVIOUS bullet holes to the cockpit of the plane.

    The western interest at the time was clear, the Netherlands objected most to sanctions, our export to Russia.
    The 300 deaths changed that literally overnight.
     
    good point,

    only it's worth pointing out that these zio-interests - to destroy Iraq and Libya and now Syria

    are all evils that in no way benefit the actual people or institutions of the West, hardly.

    Rather it's a catastrophe for the people of the West, that these evils are being perpetrated in their name, by the zio-scum who hold our governments hostage.

    So let's just remember, when you say 'the west', what you're referring to is the zio-west, which is the enemy of the actual West.

    It doesn't serve the West to be at odds with Russia. Just the opposite. It's doesn't serve the people of the West to be at war with Muslim nations. Just the opposite.

    So the same forces in the world that have destroyed Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan and Donbas and tried to destroy Syria utterly before Putin heroically came to its aid, are the same forces trying to destroy the West as well, with mass-immigration and everything else ((they)) can think of to sow hatred and strife. ((Their)) calling cards.

    Rutte told Asscher that the Russian had to be blamed.
     
    no doubt

    The asserted BUK is, they say, not to be seen,
     
    a BUK missle leaves a distinctive trail that would have been visible for a long time on that clear day.

    https://mh17scenario5.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/buk-launch.jpg

    no such trail was witnessed or photographed. There was no BUK. MH17 was shot down with air to air 30 caliber machine gun fire from a Sukhoi Su-25, flown by the Ukrainian air force. They may have also used air to air anti-aircraft missiles. But there's no doubt about the machine gun bullet holes, which are obvious.

    Those who followed the murder of Bin Laden in Abottabad know that the USA used a helicopter there invisible for Pakistani military radar.
     
    the account of the killing (and secret burial with zero proof) of Osama is patently absurd.

    How in God's name anyone would believe the zio-western press and government liars who lie to us every time they talk, about something like the killing of Osama, with not even a photo, other than the fake ones they got caught putting out, is beyond me.

    Do you also believe that Putin killed that spy in England recently?

    Do you believe that Assad used chemical weapons against his own people?

    Do you believe that Saddam's soldiers were tossing babies out of incubators?

    do you believe that Saddam had WMD?

    Do you believe that Osama did 9/11?

    do you believe that 'they hate us for our freedom'?
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  • @AnonFromTN
    You are even more cynical than I am. I have no doubt that the politicians, Dutch, US, Australian, Ukrainian, and all others, are totally amoral and unscrupulous. Naturally, they are all venal. As the US saying goes, “honest politician is the one who, once bought, stays bought”.
    But I thought that a person who lost someone in that crash would like to know the truth, rather than “official” US BS. It would be sad to think that none of almost 300 people on board had anyone who cared about them more than about money. If I were related to any of the victims, I’d feel vindictive. I’d want to kill whoever is responsible, not whoever the liars found it expedient to blame. And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.

    And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.

    that’s how some of the widows of 9/11 felt, and when Dubya told us all we don’t need any stinking investigation, since the government had told us all who did it (Osama and his 19 henchmen), they just wouldn’t’ buy it.

    and a sham ‘investigation’ was commenced, much of the motivation for which came from these heroic women.

    but then when they went to the other families of the victims, and promised them billions of shekels to leave it alone, and move on, a critical mass of them were willing to get paid off for the murder of their loved ones.

    Probably told something like ‘your loved one is dead, and demanding to know who did it, is going to anger a lot of powerful people. Do you really want to do that? when you can have so many millions of shekels instead?

    so they bribe and bully at the same time

    I recently watched a documentary on drug kingpin Escobar, and his mantra for anyone who got in his way, was that they had a choice; ‘Lead or silver, take your pick’. IOW a bullet to the gut, or a bag of cash. It worked well.

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  • It is a simple relationship – the Jewish controlled MSM support the US Deep State position on everything and in return the US government supports Israel, no matter how illegal or inappropriate the Israeli behavior has become. And the citizens of the USA suffer greatly because of this.

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  • @peterAUS

    Laughable arguments.
     

    I am sure your responses to the rest would be just as “convincing”
     
    What took you so long?

    Curious.
    Is that you, personally, or it's "Eastern" thing? You appear to be from Taiwan. Is that your cultural thing? You know...start a discussion and as soon as the other guy disagrees it's "laughable" and condescending.
    Or it's age thing? Like, you mid twenties?
    Badly hidden reverse racism, even?
    C'mon...tell me. At least something to get from this..."discussion".

    Sorry to disappoint, I am not from Taiwan and not in my mid-twenties. I am a scientist, a biochemist. I take into account evidence and dismiss empty talk. Arguments like “we have evidence but we won’t show it to you” do not cut ice with me. If you put something like this in a paper, you’d be booted out of any scientific journal. For a good reason.

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  • Laughable arguments.

    I am sure your responses to the rest would be just as “convincing”

    What took you so long?

    Curious.
    Is that you, personally, or it’s “Eastern” thing? You appear to be from Taiwan. Is that your cultural thing? You know…start a discussion and as soon as the other guy disagrees it’s “laughable” and condescending.
    Or it’s age thing? Like, you mid twenties?
    Badly hidden reverse racism, even?
    C’mon…tell me. At least something to get from this…”discussion”.

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    Sorry to disappoint, I am not from Taiwan and not in my mid-twenties. I am a scientist, a biochemist. I take into account evidence and dismiss empty talk. Arguments like “we have evidence but we won’t show it to you” do not cut ice with me. If you put something like this in a paper, you’d be booted out of any scientific journal. For a good reason.
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  • @peterAUS
    Well, actually I believe that those points do not contradict my theory.
    You:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. Only the perpetrators could have known designated “guilty party” without any investigation
    Me:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. They saw, on their monitors, what happened.
    You:
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. If they could prove that Donbass freedom fighters were the perpetrators, these pictures would have been publicized by the US more than any Hollywood movie. My conclusion is that the perpetrators were not those accused by the US, and the pictures would have revealed real perpetrators, which the US did not want to happen.
    Me:
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. They could've pointed to actual surveillance capabilities of the US, either way.
    You:
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. Apparently, someone was afraid that it might not play ball. This can only happen when the “investigators” meant to hide the truth, not to reveal it
    Me:
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. The investigation was supposed to be as impartial as possible. Interested parties were kept out as much as possible.
    Etc....

    No need to keep see-sawing this. Being done plenty of times before and it is being done, as we speak, all over Internet.

    You believe what you will; I do the same.

    Moving on.

    Laughable arguments.
    1. If anyone on the US/Ukraine side saw on their screens anything that could place the blame on Donbass freedom fighters and/or Russia, they would have presented their evidence straight away. The US and its vassals (e.g., UK) go into lengthy hysterics even when they have no evidence whatsoever (US elections in 2016, Skripal affair, etc).
    2. The US was so eager to hide its surveillance capabilities that Kerry blabbered about it from the get go. Then presented zilch. Very believable.
    3. If Malaysia was excluded to make the investigation impartial, than Ukraine, Netherlands, Australia, and UK should have been excluded, as well. The investigation should have been conducted by a party who has no stake in the matter. Instead, it is conducted by one of the prime suspects and countries who lost citizens in that crash. For four years! With non-disclosure agreement, to boot. Inspires lots of confidence.
    I am sure your responses to the rest would be just as “convincing”.

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    Sorry, but do you really can't see who you are arguing with? This is payable or sincere, but certainly a player of anti-Russia team, whatever the truth is he'll stick to that line.
    He did not give a chance to doubt it.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    Interesting hypothesis, but there are several publicly known facts that contradict it:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. Only the perpetrators could have known designated “guilty party” without any investigation.
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. If they could prove that Donbass freedom fighters were the perpetrators, these pictures would have been publicized by the US more than any Hollywood movie. My conclusion is that the perpetrators were not those accused by the US, and the pictures would have revealed real perpetrators, which the US did not want to happen.
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. Apparently, someone was afraid that it might not play ball. This can only happen when the “investigators” meant to hide the truth, not to reveal it.
    4. The UK, Australia, the Netherlands, and one of the suspects, Ukraine, signed a non-disclosure agreement. It makes no sense unless one or more of the signatories is guilty. Donbass freedom fighters are not a party to that agreement.
    5. The “investigation” is going on for four years, longer than any investigation in the history of civil aviation. The experience shows that a lot less time is needed to uncover the truth. Thus, the length of this “investigation” shows that the real purpose is cover-up.
    6. Ukraine never provided the records of pilots’ communications with air traffic controllers, or any other air traffic control records. Thus, it must have had something to hide.
    7. Malaysian Airlines filed a flight plan at 35 000 feet. Ukrainian air traffic controllers told the plane to reduce altitude to 33 000 feet over Donbass. This was never explained.
    8. The “investigators” keep pushing the theory that MH17 was shot down by a Buk missile. Many facts contradict this theory. One, the “investigators” produced just a few allegedly Buk fragments, whereas it is well known that Buk missile generates thousands of these fragments, many hundreds of which would be lodged in the plane debris and passenger bodies. Two, Buk missile leaves a smoke trail visible for many miles around, which remains there for more than an hour. Nobody in this densely populated area captured that on video, or even saw that. Three, many witnesses saw the second airplane in the vicinity. Actually, this info first appeared on BBC news. BBC then deleted this footage from its site, which strongly suggests that whoever controls BBC is complicit in the crime. This certainly excludes Donbass freedom fighters. Four, there are round holes in the pilots’ cabin, which are totally inconsistent with Buk missile elements, but remarkably consistent with the damage from 30 mm gun, a standard equipment of Soviet Su fighter jets that both Ukrainian and Russian air force has, and that Donbass freedom fighters most certainly don’t have.
    Overall, my hypothesis is that somebody smarter than those pathetic puppets in Kiev planned this crime specifically to blame Donbass freedom fighters and, by extension, Russia, for it. The crime was executed by the Ukrainian army, well known for its ineptitude and general ham-handedness. The operation was botched, so that an extensive cover-up became necessary. Hence unprecedented four year “investigation” with direct participation of one of the most obvious suspects.

    Well, actually I believe that those points do not contradict my theory.
    You:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. Only the perpetrators could have known designated “guilty party” without any investigation
    Me:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. They saw, on their monitors, what happened.
    You:
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. If they could prove that Donbass freedom fighters were the perpetrators, these pictures would have been publicized by the US more than any Hollywood movie. My conclusion is that the perpetrators were not those accused by the US, and the pictures would have revealed real perpetrators, which the US did not want to happen.
    Me:
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. They could’ve pointed to actual surveillance capabilities of the US, either way.
    You:
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. Apparently, someone was afraid that it might not play ball. This can only happen when the “investigators” meant to hide the truth, not to reveal it
    Me:
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. The investigation was supposed to be as impartial as possible. Interested parties were kept out as much as possible.
    Etc….

    No need to keep see-sawing this. Being done plenty of times before and it is being done, as we speak, all over Internet.

    You believe what you will; I do the same.

    Moving on.

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    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    Laughable arguments.
    1. If anyone on the US/Ukraine side saw on their screens anything that could place the blame on Donbass freedom fighters and/or Russia, they would have presented their evidence straight away. The US and its vassals (e.g., UK) go into lengthy hysterics even when they have no evidence whatsoever (US elections in 2016, Skripal affair, etc).
    2. The US was so eager to hide its surveillance capabilities that Kerry blabbered about it from the get go. Then presented zilch. Very believable.
    3. If Malaysia was excluded to make the investigation impartial, than Ukraine, Netherlands, Australia, and UK should have been excluded, as well. The investigation should have been conducted by a party who has no stake in the matter. Instead, it is conducted by one of the prime suspects and countries who lost citizens in that crash. For four years! With non-disclosure agreement, to boot. Inspires lots of confidence.
    I am sure your responses to the rest would be just as “convincing”.
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  • @peterAUS
    Well....you believe that none of people who had a loved one among those dead has been "willing to invest some effort and intelligence into it."
    It's a lot of people......and I don't buy it.
    Feels a bit...condescending.

    My point is that a serious investigation can't be done without access to highly classified data.
    No amount of work with public available data is good enough to produce a proper result.
    Or at least a result which would prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, who was the perpetrator. I mean....the person/persons coming to that conclusion will, literally, spend their life/lives on that. Not something to be taken lightly.

    I, personally, believe the plane was shot down by the guys in Donbass, by mistake. Happens in such wars. Don't blame them. Just an error in judgement.
    Maybe the blame should be placed on "civilian" part of that tragedy, from company management, through air controllers to the plane pilot/copilot. Still, just several levels of negligence.

    The circus after the shooting is another matter. From media to top politicians. All sides.
    Of course that the top players know exactly what happened. They just don't want, for different reasons, to present that evidence to the public.
    That is interesting.
    Or simply proving the fact, again, that when real interests of the big guys are concerned, public outrcy means nothing.

    Interesting hypothesis, but there are several publicly known facts that contradict it:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. Only the perpetrators could have known designated “guilty party” without any investigation.
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. If they could prove that Donbass freedom fighters were the perpetrators, these pictures would have been publicized by the US more than any Hollywood movie. My conclusion is that the perpetrators were not those accused by the US, and the pictures would have revealed real perpetrators, which the US did not want to happen.
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. Apparently, someone was afraid that it might not play ball. This can only happen when the “investigators” meant to hide the truth, not to reveal it.
    4. The UK, Australia, the Netherlands, and one of the suspects, Ukraine, signed a non-disclosure agreement. It makes no sense unless one or more of the signatories is guilty. Donbass freedom fighters are not a party to that agreement.
    5. The “investigation” is going on for four years, longer than any investigation in the history of civil aviation. The experience shows that a lot less time is needed to uncover the truth. Thus, the length of this “investigation” shows that the real purpose is cover-up.
    6. Ukraine never provided the records of pilots’ communications with air traffic controllers, or any other air traffic control records. Thus, it must have had something to hide.
    7. Malaysian Airlines filed a flight plan at 35 000 feet. Ukrainian air traffic controllers told the plane to reduce altitude to 33 000 feet over Donbass. This was never explained.
    8. The “investigators” keep pushing the theory that MH17 was shot down by a Buk missile. Many facts contradict this theory. One, the “investigators” produced just a few allegedly Buk fragments, whereas it is well known that Buk missile generates thousands of these fragments, many hundreds of which would be lodged in the plane debris and passenger bodies. Two, Buk missile leaves a smoke trail visible for many miles around, which remains there for more than an hour. Nobody in this densely populated area captured that on video, or even saw that. Three, many witnesses saw the second airplane in the vicinity. Actually, this info first appeared on BBC news. BBC then deleted this footage from its site, which strongly suggests that whoever controls BBC is complicit in the crime. This certainly excludes Donbass freedom fighters. Four, there are round holes in the pilots’ cabin, which are totally inconsistent with Buk missile elements, but remarkably consistent with the damage from 30 mm gun, a standard equipment of Soviet Su fighter jets that both Ukrainian and Russian air force has, and that Donbass freedom fighters most certainly don’t have.
    Overall, my hypothesis is that somebody smarter than those pathetic puppets in Kiev planned this crime specifically to blame Donbass freedom fighters and, by extension, Russia, for it. The crime was executed by the Ukrainian army, well known for its ineptitude and general ham-handedness. The operation was botched, so that an extensive cover-up became necessary. Hence unprecedented four year “investigation” with direct participation of one of the most obvious suspects.

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    Well, actually I believe that those points do not contradict my theory.
    You:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. Only the perpetrators could have known designated “guilty party” without any investigation
    Me:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. They saw, on their monitors, what happened.
    You:
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. If they could prove that Donbass freedom fighters were the perpetrators, these pictures would have been publicized by the US more than any Hollywood movie. My conclusion is that the perpetrators were not those accused by the US, and the pictures would have revealed real perpetrators, which the US did not want to happen.
    Me:
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. They could've pointed to actual surveillance capabilities of the US, either way.
    You:
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. Apparently, someone was afraid that it might not play ball. This can only happen when the “investigators” meant to hide the truth, not to reveal it
    Me:
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. The investigation was supposed to be as impartial as possible. Interested parties were kept out as much as possible.
    Etc....

    No need to keep see-sawing this. Being done plenty of times before and it is being done, as we speak, all over Internet.

    You believe what you will; I do the same.

    Moving on.
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  • A year or two ago, I saw the much-touted science fiction film Interstellar, and although the plot wasn't any good, one early scene was quite amusing. For various reasons, the American government of the future claimed that our Moon Landings of the late 1960s had been faked, a trick aimed at winning the Cold War...
  • Assuming you are telling the truth, if the signals were broadcast from “above”, how can you be sure they weren’t transmitted from satellites and/or planes?

    Satellites? The Great L-5 Conspiracy?

    Planes? ROFLMAOYIF.

    Thanks, I needed that.

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    • Replies: @CalDre
    Yeah, planes. Like the SR-71, which flies at 70,000 ft.

    Or satellites. Like an orbiting lunar lander.

    It was a simple question. You should try educating yourself instead of being content to be a smug ignoramus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrz6Ge1oD6w&t=99s
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  • @John Jeremiah Smith

    This is a good piece which deserved an acceptable level of mental hygiene in the comment section. Unfortunately, two of the first nine comments are from morons spamming their “no lunar landing” drivel.
     
    Indeed, and absolute drivel. During the first two moon landings, I was working as an electronic technician, aligning and tuning the radio communications antennas at one of the monitor sites. Unless the physics of the electromagnetic Universe was altered by the conspirators, the origin of radio transmissions from the landing crew could only have come from the Moon. Either that, or space aliens operating a whole 'nuther conspiracy used "seekrut" technology to make it look like signals received at every monitor station were from the Moon. If so, kudos on a boss fake-out scheme.

    Unless the physics of the electromagnetic Universe was altered by the conspirators, the origin of radio transmissions from the landing crew could only have come from the Moon.

    Assuming you are telling the truth, if the signals were broadcast from “above”, how can you be sure they weren’t transmitted from satellites and/or planes?

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  • Last year I published Our American Pravda, making the case for the utter corruption and unreliability of the mainstream American media, both in the past and especially in recent years. The enormous lacunae I daily noticed in the pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and other leading media outlets were a...
  • @AnonFromTN
    Well, it isn’t easy, but I think it is doable, at least if you are willing to invest some effort and intelligence into it. First, as far as the execution of this crime goes, there are three bona fide suspects: Ukrainian government, Russian government, and Donbass freedom fighters. I’d analyze the timing of events and statements: when the plane was shot, when the actual info from the crash site appeared, when the statements were made. Any accusations that preceded evidence could have originated only from the perpetrators or those who directed the criminals. Second, there is an old Latin question that is as appropriate today as it was two thousand years ago: cui prodest? That applies to perpetrators and those who directed them. Third, who had the means to commit the crime? Shooting down an airplane at 33 000 feet requires technical means and skill. For example, I wouldn’t be able to do it without special training. Fourth, who conducted the investigation? Does it seem honest? If not, who resorted to shenanigans? Who was in the best position to produce red herrings? If the investigation appears to be a cover-up, who participated in it and who facilitated it? Who was excluded from it? If the investigation was a ruse, those excluded from it clearly aren’t guilty. And so forth. That would take time, but, as we all know, vengeance is a dish best served cold.

    Well….you believe that none of people who had a loved one among those dead has been “willing to invest some effort and intelligence into it.”
    It’s a lot of people……and I don’t buy it.
    Feels a bit…condescending.

    My point is that a serious investigation can’t be done without access to highly classified data.
    No amount of work with public available data is good enough to produce a proper result.
    Or at least a result which would prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, who was the perpetrator. I mean….the person/persons coming to that conclusion will, literally, spend their life/lives on that. Not something to be taken lightly.

    I, personally, believe the plane was shot down by the guys in Donbass, by mistake. Happens in such wars. Don’t blame them. Just an error in judgement.
    Maybe the blame should be placed on “civilian” part of that tragedy, from company management, through air controllers to the plane pilot/copilot. Still, just several levels of negligence.

    The circus after the shooting is another matter. From media to top politicians. All sides.
    Of course that the top players know exactly what happened. They just don’t want, for different reasons, to present that evidence to the public.
    That is interesting.
    Or simply proving the fact, again, that when real interests of the big guys are concerned, public outrcy means nothing.

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    Interesting hypothesis, but there are several publicly known facts that contradict it:
    1. Donbass freedom fighters were blamed by the US, its vassals, and its client states like Ukraine even before the debris cooled down. Only the perpetrators could have known designated “guilty party” without any investigation.
    2. Satellite pictures promised by Kerry four years ago never materialized. If they could prove that Donbass freedom fighters were the perpetrators, these pictures would have been publicized by the US more than any Hollywood movie. My conclusion is that the perpetrators were not those accused by the US, and the pictures would have revealed real perpetrators, which the US did not want to happen.
    3. Malaysia, the owner of that airplane, was not allowed to participate in the investigation. Apparently, someone was afraid that it might not play ball. This can only happen when the “investigators” meant to hide the truth, not to reveal it.
    4. The UK, Australia, the Netherlands, and one of the suspects, Ukraine, signed a non-disclosure agreement. It makes no sense unless one or more of the signatories is guilty. Donbass freedom fighters are not a party to that agreement.
    5. The “investigation” is going on for four years, longer than any investigation in the history of civil aviation. The experience shows that a lot less time is needed to uncover the truth. Thus, the length of this “investigation” shows that the real purpose is cover-up.
    6. Ukraine never provided the records of pilots’ communications with air traffic controllers, or any other air traffic control records. Thus, it must have had something to hide.
    7. Malaysian Airlines filed a flight plan at 35 000 feet. Ukrainian air traffic controllers told the plane to reduce altitude to 33 000 feet over Donbass. This was never explained.
    8. The “investigators” keep pushing the theory that MH17 was shot down by a Buk missile. Many facts contradict this theory. One, the “investigators” produced just a few allegedly Buk fragments, whereas it is well known that Buk missile generates thousands of these fragments, many hundreds of which would be lodged in the plane debris and passenger bodies. Two, Buk missile leaves a smoke trail visible for many miles around, which remains there for more than an hour. Nobody in this densely populated area captured that on video, or even saw that. Three, many witnesses saw the second airplane in the vicinity. Actually, this info first appeared on BBC news. BBC then deleted this footage from its site, which strongly suggests that whoever controls BBC is complicit in the crime. This certainly excludes Donbass freedom fighters. Four, there are round holes in the pilots’ cabin, which are totally inconsistent with Buk missile elements, but remarkably consistent with the damage from 30 mm gun, a standard equipment of Soviet Su fighter jets that both Ukrainian and Russian air force has, and that Donbass freedom fighters most certainly don’t have.
    Overall, my hypothesis is that somebody smarter than those pathetic puppets in Kiev planned this crime specifically to blame Donbass freedom fighters and, by extension, Russia, for it. The crime was executed by the Ukrainian army, well known for its ineptitude and general ham-handedness. The operation was botched, so that an extensive cover-up became necessary. Hence unprecedented four year “investigation” with direct participation of one of the most obvious suspects.
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  • A year or two ago, I saw the much-touted science fiction film Interstellar, and although the plot wasn't any good, one early scene was quite amusing. For various reasons, the American government of the future claimed that our Moon Landings of the late 1960s had been faked, a trick aimed at winning the Cold War...
  • @exiled off mainstreet
    I didn't notice Gleiwitz was mentioned in another posting before I mentioned it. I tend go along with you and suspect incompetence rather than purpose was the cause of the Pearl Harbor disaster, though the incompetence may have included failure to adequately warn those on the ground at Pearl Harbor. Personally, I don't back the "truther" version of the twin towers because that would have required a broader conspiracy than I think could have succeeded. My guess is that the neighboring building was destroyed as part of the cleanup effort. I do think, however, that the authorities knew something was up, didn't believe it could ever succeed and used it as a sort of Reichstag Fire incident to brush aside constitutional democracy in the US. I also suspect that the Mossad knew more than they let on. My guess is that if Gore rather than Bush had been in power that history would have been far different. I suspect that the anthrax thing was more likely started by the yankee regime as a home-grown conspiracy.

    My guess is that if Gore rather than Bush had been in power that history would have been far different.

    Why would you think that? Gore is as much (if not more) a tool of the Zionist as Bush & Cheney, and all the rest, including Trump.

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Thanks. I wonder what will happen to Israel's support if and when serious money and research and publicity is put into telling the whole Liberty story and making sure it is drummed in.

    Your 9/11 version I don't buy, not least because someone suicidal/murderous had to be controlling the planes.

    Your 9/11 version I don’t buy, not least because someone suicidal/murderous had to be controlling the planes.

    Wrong. The planes were controlled (directed to their targets) by on-board flight controllers that prior to 9/11 had been re-programmed to take control of the planes from the pilots and fly them into the Twin Towers, Pentagon and Building 7. Something apparently malfunctioned to prevent flight 93 from returning to strike building 7 as planned, leading to it (Flight 93) having to be shot down by a US fighter plane over Pennsylvania to prevent the pilot of that plane from landing to reveal what actually happened.

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  • Last year I published Our American Pravda, making the case for the utter corruption and unreliability of the mainstream American media, both in the past and especially in recent years. The enormous lacunae I daily noticed in the pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and other leading media outlets were a...
  • @peterAUS

    If I were related to any of the victims, I’d feel vindictive. I’d want to kill whoever is responsible, not whoever the liars found it expedient to blame.
    And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.
     
    Good to see that before going onto suicide murder rampage you are willing to do some forethought and preparation.
    So.....how exactly would you "make damn sure I know"?
    You must be well connected.

    If I were to do the same I wouldn't know how to do it.
    I mean, save hacking into some highly classified data banks of major world powers I really wouldn't have an idea how to proceed. And I just can't hack there.....just thinking how much hard work would even trying to develop a proper "zero day exploit" require....just no way.

    Second best would be kidnapping and questioning a person who knows all that. Unfortunately that's somebody rather high up, with decent protection. I don't think I could pull that of even in my best days. It's simply out of question now.

    So...how would you do it?

    Well, it isn’t easy, but I think it is doable, at least if you are willing to invest some effort and intelligence into it. First, as far as the execution of this crime goes, there are three bona fide suspects: Ukrainian government, Russian government, and Donbass freedom fighters. I’d analyze the timing of events and statements: when the plane was shot, when the actual info from the crash site appeared, when the statements were made. Any accusations that preceded evidence could have originated only from the perpetrators or those who directed the criminals. Second, there is an old Latin question that is as appropriate today as it was two thousand years ago: cui prodest? That applies to perpetrators and those who directed them. Third, who had the means to commit the crime? Shooting down an airplane at 33 000 feet requires technical means and skill. For example, I wouldn’t be able to do it without special training. Fourth, who conducted the investigation? Does it seem honest? If not, who resorted to shenanigans? Who was in the best position to produce red herrings? If the investigation appears to be a cover-up, who participated in it and who facilitated it? Who was excluded from it? If the investigation was a ruse, those excluded from it clearly aren’t guilty. And so forth. That would take time, but, as we all know, vengeance is a dish best served cold.

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    Well....you believe that none of people who had a loved one among those dead has been "willing to invest some effort and intelligence into it."
    It's a lot of people......and I don't buy it.
    Feels a bit...condescending.

    My point is that a serious investigation can't be done without access to highly classified data.
    No amount of work with public available data is good enough to produce a proper result.
    Or at least a result which would prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, who was the perpetrator. I mean....the person/persons coming to that conclusion will, literally, spend their life/lives on that. Not something to be taken lightly.

    I, personally, believe the plane was shot down by the guys in Donbass, by mistake. Happens in such wars. Don't blame them. Just an error in judgement.
    Maybe the blame should be placed on "civilian" part of that tragedy, from company management, through air controllers to the plane pilot/copilot. Still, just several levels of negligence.

    The circus after the shooting is another matter. From media to top politicians. All sides.
    Of course that the top players know exactly what happened. They just don't want, for different reasons, to present that evidence to the public.
    That is interesting.
    Or simply proving the fact, again, that when real interests of the big guys are concerned, public outrcy means nothing.
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  • @AnonFromTN
    You are even more cynical than I am. I have no doubt that the politicians, Dutch, US, Australian, Ukrainian, and all others, are totally amoral and unscrupulous. Naturally, they are all venal. As the US saying goes, “honest politician is the one who, once bought, stays bought”.
    But I thought that a person who lost someone in that crash would like to know the truth, rather than “official” US BS. It would be sad to think that none of almost 300 people on board had anyone who cared about them more than about money. If I were related to any of the victims, I’d feel vindictive. I’d want to kill whoever is responsible, not whoever the liars found it expedient to blame. And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.

    If I were related to any of the victims, I’d feel vindictive. I’d want to kill whoever is responsible, not whoever the liars found it expedient to blame.
    And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.

    Good to see that before going onto suicide murder rampage you are willing to do some forethought and preparation.
    So…..how exactly would you “make damn sure I know”?
    You must be well connected.

    If I were to do the same I wouldn’t know how to do it.
    I mean, save hacking into some highly classified data banks of major world powers I really wouldn’t have an idea how to proceed. And I just can’t hack there…..just thinking how much hard work would even trying to develop a proper “zero day exploit” require….just no way.

    Second best would be kidnapping and questioning a person who knows all that. Unfortunately that’s somebody rather high up, with decent protection. I don’t think I could pull that of even in my best days. It’s simply out of question now.

    So…how would you do it?

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    Well, it isn’t easy, but I think it is doable, at least if you are willing to invest some effort and intelligence into it. First, as far as the execution of this crime goes, there are three bona fide suspects: Ukrainian government, Russian government, and Donbass freedom fighters. I’d analyze the timing of events and statements: when the plane was shot, when the actual info from the crash site appeared, when the statements were made. Any accusations that preceded evidence could have originated only from the perpetrators or those who directed the criminals. Second, there is an old Latin question that is as appropriate today as it was two thousand years ago: cui prodest? That applies to perpetrators and those who directed them. Third, who had the means to commit the crime? Shooting down an airplane at 33 000 feet requires technical means and skill. For example, I wouldn’t be able to do it without special training. Fourth, who conducted the investigation? Does it seem honest? If not, who resorted to shenanigans? Who was in the best position to produce red herrings? If the investigation appears to be a cover-up, who participated in it and who facilitated it? Who was excluded from it? If the investigation was a ruse, those excluded from it clearly aren’t guilty. And so forth. That would take time, but, as we all know, vengeance is a dish best served cold.
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  • @Rurik

    Don’t they want to know who killed them?
     
    no, not if you pay them enough money

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/mh17-compensation-could-hit-1nbspbillion-in-latest-disaster-for-malaysia-airlines/news-story/6b553d929d3de6fba845dfd0ae346562

    (just like with 9/11)

    http://www.latimes.com/la-110804compensation_lat-story.html

    the wreckage of MH17 was obviously riddled with machine gun fire

    only Ukraine could have done that

    the way the zio-west immediately blamed Putin proved it was all a lie

    it was the zio-west that foisted the political strife in Ukraine

    it was the zio-west that allowed the Ukraine to have veto power over the "investigation" into the shooting down of MH17

    the whole thing is a devil's farce

    just like all the other atrocities and war crimes committed in this century by the zio-fiend

    You are even more cynical than I am. I have no doubt that the politicians, Dutch, US, Australian, Ukrainian, and all others, are totally amoral and unscrupulous. Naturally, they are all venal. As the US saying goes, “honest politician is the one who, once bought, stays bought”.
    But I thought that a person who lost someone in that crash would like to know the truth, rather than “official” US BS. It would be sad to think that none of almost 300 people on board had anyone who cared about them more than about money. If I were related to any of the victims, I’d feel vindictive. I’d want to kill whoever is responsible, not whoever the liars found it expedient to blame. And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.

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    If I were related to any of the victims, I’d feel vindictive. I’d want to kill whoever is responsible, not whoever the liars found it expedient to blame.
    And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.
     
    Good to see that before going onto suicide murder rampage you are willing to do some forethought and preparation.
    So.....how exactly would you "make damn sure I know"?
    You must be well connected.

    If I were to do the same I wouldn't know how to do it.
    I mean, save hacking into some highly classified data banks of major world powers I really wouldn't have an idea how to proceed. And I just can't hack there.....just thinking how much hard work would even trying to develop a proper "zero day exploit" require....just no way.

    Second best would be kidnapping and questioning a person who knows all that. Unfortunately that's somebody rather high up, with decent protection. I don't think I could pull that of even in my best days. It's simply out of question now.

    So...how would you do it?
    , @Rurik

    And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.
     
    that's how some of the widows of 9/11 felt, and when Dubya told us all we don't need any stinking investigation, since the government had told us all who did it (Osama and his 19 henchmen), they just wouldn't' buy it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hfFpjaJuLk

    and a sham 'investigation' was commenced, much of the motivation for which came from these heroic women.

    but then when they went to the other families of the victims, and promised them billions of shekels to leave it alone, and move on, a critical mass of them were willing to get paid off for the murder of their loved ones.

    Probably told something like 'your loved one is dead, and demanding to know who did it, is going to anger a lot of powerful people. Do you really want to do that? when you can have so many millions of shekels instead?

    so they bribe and bully at the same time

    I recently watched a documentary on drug kingpin Escobar, and his mantra for anyone who got in his way, was that they had a choice; 'Lead or silver, take your pick'. IOW a bullet to the gut, or a bag of cash. It worked well.

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  • Some years ago as I became increasingly aware of the severe dishonesty of our mainstream media on all sorts of controversial topics, I began telling a joke to a few of my friends. Suppose, I would say, that I happened to be out walking one pleasant afternoon in Palo Alto, and suddenly heard a gigantic...
  • It is a very simple equation. The MSM support the US government and the government support Israel to the hilt. As our MSM is totally Israel owned we have the state of affairs just described above in this article. The same thing happened before and after after 9/11. Sometime in the future a brave lunatic will break this mould and reveal the truth at the right time thus discrediting our government permanently. It is just a matter of time. The recent UK nerve gas indictment of Russia indicated that the deep state is getting careless and expects us to accept weak logic and rather amateur staging.

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  • With Americans still trapped in the fifth year of our Great Recession, and median personal income having been essentially stagnant for forty years, perhaps we should finally admit that decades of economic policies have largely failed.
  • If the minimum wage law really worked as advertised then we could just make the minimum wage $1,000,000 (one million) dollars an hour and we would all be millionaires and only have to work one hour a year.

    But it doesn’t work that way. Any law which sets the minimum wage higher than the market wage destroys jobs.

    Now deleting line 7 from the Federal IRS 1040 form, that line where you write down your “wages, salaries, and tips” to be subject to the Federal Income Tax, now that would help the American workers. Get rid of the federal income tax on jobs. A tax on jobs kills jobs. It is the taxing of jobs, in all forms, that is destroying the market value of American workers.

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  • Last year I published Our American Pravda, making the case for the utter corruption and unreliability of the mainstream American media, both in the past and especially in recent years. The enormous lacunae I daily noticed in the pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and other leading media outlets were a...
  • @AnonFromTN
    Yes. I can understand the Dutch government: they serve the US overlords first and foremost. They don’t give a hoot about the lives of ordinary Dutch people. What I do not understand is the behavior of the people who lost loved ones in MH17 crash. Don’t they want to know who killed them? Don’t they object to being grist for the mill of amoral and cynical politicians?

    Don’t they want to know who killed them?

    no, not if you pay them enough money

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/mh17-compensation-could-hit-1nbspbillion-in-latest-disaster-for-malaysia-airlines/news-story/6b553d929d3de6fba845dfd0ae346562

    (just like with 9/11)

    http://www.latimes.com/la-110804compensation_lat-story.html

    the wreckage of MH17 was obviously riddled with machine gun fire

    only Ukraine could have done that

    the way the zio-west immediately blamed Putin proved it was all a lie

    it was the zio-west that foisted the political strife in Ukraine

    it was the zio-west that allowed the Ukraine to have veto power over the “investigation” into the shooting down of MH17

    the whole thing is a devil’s farce

    just like all the other atrocities and war crimes committed in this century by the zio-fiend

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    You are even more cynical than I am. I have no doubt that the politicians, Dutch, US, Australian, Ukrainian, and all others, are totally amoral and unscrupulous. Naturally, they are all venal. As the US saying goes, “honest politician is the one who, once bought, stays bought”.
    But I thought that a person who lost someone in that crash would like to know the truth, rather than “official” US BS. It would be sad to think that none of almost 300 people on board had anyone who cared about them more than about money. If I were related to any of the victims, I’d feel vindictive. I’d want to kill whoever is responsible, not whoever the liars found it expedient to blame. And I’d make damn sure I know who planned this provocation and who executed it in cold blood.
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  • A year or two ago, I saw the much-touted science fiction film Interstellar, and although the plot wasn't any good, one early scene was quite amusing. For various reasons, the American government of the future claimed that our Moon Landings of the late 1960s had been faked, a trick aimed at winning the Cold War...
  • @Caijoe
    Ummm, cuz it was shot down???

    Even if there was a tittle of evidence in support it wouldn’t explain its flight path if WTC 7 were its target.

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  • I recall Flight 800 differently. What struck me at the time was, what a very close call that was for the regime. Everyone on Long Island knew all about the government’s frantic eyewitness suppression campaign. The peak moment of government panic was probably when a mischievous newsman asked how close the plane came to No Man’s island. No Man’s Island, that oddly unfrequented nature preserve, was of course one of CIA’s three most critical ancillary sites. You hear a lot about The Farm and Camp Swampy, but nobody ever pulls the No Man’s Island thread. The only two public-domain references to it were in fiction: an in-joke in one of Howard Hunt’s novels traces the flight path of a plane right at it, only to veer off and land somewhere else; and le Carre fictionalizes it, badly, in one of his books (he clearly hadn’t been there.)

    Anyway, people ought to contemplate the Navy missile business as a modified limited hangout.

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Sorry did I get that wrong? Yes you guessed right about which plane I meant.

    Your answer that the charges had to be set off in WTC 7 to conceal the wiring is certainly not crazy but not very satisfactory. Ah, but yes, the fire that burned all day was set opportunistically after Flight 93 went AWOL.

    That leaves motive for including WTC 7 in the plot at all unless there was indeed something that had to hidden by destruction. Proof? Evidence?

    There were a lot of passenger calls from Flight 93 that I was referring to. Are you amongst those who deny the technical feasibility? One way or another there seems to be a problem there with the conspiracy versions.

    And what's the explanation for UA 93 not being adequately controlled by computer or remotely if it was intended for WTC 7.

    Ummm, cuz it was shot down???

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    Even if there was a tittle of evidence in support it wouldn't explain its flight path if WTC 7 were its target.
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  • Thank G-d that the timely Centennial Olympic Park bombing swept the TWA Flight 800 shoot down off the front pages.

    Amazing how that happens!

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  • Last year I published Our American Pravda, making the case for the utter corruption and unreliability of the mainstream American media, both in the past and especially in recent years. The enormous lacunae I daily noticed in the pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and other leading media outlets were a...
  • @JR
    See my comment nr 230: There is not one investigation. The Dutch manipulated this into two separate investigations. There was a technical UN mandated transparent Dutch Safety Board investigation. The Dutch organized a second criminal investigation together with Australia, Belgium and the Ukraine and instigated A Joint Investigation Team (JIT).
    https://www.government.nl/latest/news/2017/07/05/jit-countries-choose-the-netherlands-for-mh17-crash-prosecution
    The manipulation and exploitation of the MH17 incident by the Dutch seems to rival that of Skripal incident by the UK.
    https://www.government.nl/search?keyword=mh17

    Yes. I can understand the Dutch government: they serve the US overlords first and foremost. They don’t give a hoot about the lives of ordinary Dutch people. What I do not understand is the behavior of the people who lost loved ones in MH17 crash. Don’t they want to know who killed them? Don’t they object to being grist for the mill of amoral and cynical politicians?

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    Don’t they want to know who killed them?
     
    no, not if you pay them enough money

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/mh17-compensation-could-hit-1nbspbillion-in-latest-disaster-for-malaysia-airlines/news-story/6b553d929d3de6fba845dfd0ae346562

    (just like with 9/11)

    http://www.latimes.com/la-110804compensation_lat-story.html

    the wreckage of MH17 was obviously riddled with machine gun fire

    only Ukraine could have done that

    the way the zio-west immediately blamed Putin proved it was all a lie

    it was the zio-west that foisted the political strife in Ukraine

    it was the zio-west that allowed the Ukraine to have veto power over the "investigation" into the shooting down of MH17

    the whole thing is a devil's farce

    just like all the other atrocities and war crimes committed in this century by the zio-fiend
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